[00:01] How do you move multiple windows between desktops? [00:01] Let's say I have gimp open on desktop one and I want to move it to desktop 2 [00:01] All in one go [00:05] M-a-r-k: let me know if you find a way to do that [00:05] I was kind of hoping someone here would tell me how :p [00:05] How long have we had virtual desktops, again? [00:06] And no one's figured out that that might be a useful thing to be able to do? [00:06] Especially with bloody gimp [00:06] M-a-r-k: why? [00:07] maxamillion: just make thtool windows transient and they will follow [00:07] Because all those windows are annoying. Why does it have to have so many? [00:07] maxamillion: because it's convenient [00:08] maxamillion: sorry [00:08] M-a-r-k: ^ [00:09] Oh well [00:09] If you like the gimp interface that's fine [00:09] But don't you ever just want to put it somewhere out of the way? [00:10] perhaps you should make a point of always staring the gimp on its own workspace? [00:10] with devilspie you could force it to a particular workspace [00:11] Yeah. But if the Cult of Cupertino can move multiple windows from one desktop to another simultaneously then we should be able to :p [00:11] We had them first [00:13] Maybe one of you clever chaps could hack something :D === tuna-fish is now known as tuna [01:56] Hi everybody [01:57] I've installed xubuntu, but i'm having problems with my Nvidia Geforce 2 MX 400 graphic card.. [01:57] Anyone know what I have to do? [01:59] I tried to install the Nvidia drive, but the resolution was set to 640x480 and it doesn't allow me change it... [02:02] anyone knows where I can get help? [02:12] Hello? === emma_ is now known as emma [03:21] hey -- machine locked up, restarted it, now xfce4 desktop comes up, looks fine, then immediately logs out. dmesg says xfce4-session segfaulted. I killing the session cache, same deal. [03:31] evening all. Anyone available to assist with a file-permissions problem I have? [03:31] whats the problem / [03:32] I have a user that pulls data from a remote system hourly and shares it via samaba (wich works fine) [03:32] unfortunately I cant get apache to get read access to the data [03:32] what's the error and where does it occur? [03:33] I've tried adding www-data to the user that pulls the data in /etc/group with no joy. [03:33] what's the error and where does it occur ? [03:33] the www application just stats that the directory is unreadable. [03:34] states* [03:34] what's the url and also, full path? [03:34] you don't have to give me domain :-) [03:34] directories... [03:34] oh [03:34] if theyr'e not set to be readable -- you can read files from it, but not read the directory contents itself [03:35] It's just a case of giving www-data access to another users files. [03:35] that's in httpd.conf -- i can't remember what the key is. [03:35] can they get to the files specifically with a full path? [03:35] no. [03:36] is this a cgi, or just apache? [03:36] eg /mnt/sdb1/folder is owned by user1. I need to add www-data read access to it. [03:36] oh, chgrp ? [03:37] I cant chown or chgrp the folder/data as it's pulled from a remote system. [03:37] you mean you're trying to pass a network share through apache ? [03:37] no. [03:38] user1 scp's data from remote system and saves it as user1:user1 (user:group) [03:38] can you specify the url with ~/user1/filespec ? [03:38] no. [03:38] so that it's calling with user1's permissions? [03:38] why not ? [03:38] because the data is not stored in home directories. [03:39] you can use a symlink [03:39] ln -s [03:39] man ln [03:39] I know symlink but not sure it's the answer. [03:39] it's a better answer than what you've got presently :-) [03:40] I thought just adding www-data to user1's group in /etc/group would solve it. [03:40] have you restarted apache since you made that change? [03:40] yes [03:41] /etc/group now reads : user1:x:1001:www-data [03:41] then restarted apache [03:41] i'm not going to pretend to be an apache expert, but i've spent a lot of time fighting with it. Typically, solutions are never so simple... [03:41] i'd really think hard about using symlink if you can. [03:41] have you otherwise defined a that specs the location of the files in the httpd.conf ? [03:42] because if it's not in apache's dir directives, it won't go there [03:42] it works fine if I chgrp -R all the data to www-data, but then the user1 update script fails. [03:43] Can I explain a little better in pm? [03:43] sure... though if you can, we shoudl keep the solution in public w/o revealing system details. [03:43] sure. [03:45] problem machine locked up, restarted it, now xfce4 desktop comes up, looks fine, then immediately logs out after taking a _really long time_ to bring up the desktop. dmesg says xfce4-session segfaulted. I killing the session cache, same deal. [03:59] im here to try and help [04:05] radlipat: http://www.devshed.com/c/a/Apache/Setting-Permissions-in-Apache/1/ [04:05] er [04:05] problem machine locked up, restarted it, now xfce4 desktop comes up, looks fine, then immediately logs out after taking a _really long time_ to bring up the desktop. dmesg says xfce4-session segfaulted. I killing the session cache, same deal. [04:05] hummmmmmmm [04:07] only reference i've found online was, "problem was running as root" which is not the case here. [04:08] can i send you to a differ channel? [04:08] someon in ubuntu might be able to help you with that problem [04:08] sorry but i have no clue [04:09] quite alright :-) [04:10] ok type /join ubuntu [04:10] or /join #ubuntu [04:10] i tried that a few moments ago [04:10] hmmmm [04:10] it's an xfce problem, so usually out of ubuntu #'s range [04:10] have u tried /join #kubuntu [04:10] ?? [04:10] yeah [04:10] nope, but, again ,it's an xfce problem [04:10] ic [04:10] ummmm [04:11] was your first install a xubuntu or kubuntu or ubuntu? [04:11] ubuntu origianlly [04:11] ok try in login screen [04:12] switched to xfce months ago on the desktop, did xubuntu on the portable. [04:12] erm? [04:12] there should be a menu screen [04:12] server type [04:12] and try your old version once [04:12] ill wait here [04:13] strangely enough, no session menu. just the shutdown/restart menu from gdm [04:14] hmmm [04:14] u may have to restart [04:15] hit ctrl alt [04:15] that kills x... [04:15] er gdm [04:15] i know [04:15] and restarts gdm [04:15] :-) [04:16] kill it and turn back on [04:16] 22:24] <[e]Lement> radlipat, your RAM may be going bad. [04:16] says a person in ubuntu [04:17] i checked that, actually [04:17] kk [04:17] memtest [04:17] ok [04:17] yup and? [04:17] i forced fsck, killed the .cache/sessions... [04:17] memory is fine [04:17] i'm wondering if the "fix xserver" option on the recovery screen is a good idea [04:18] kk one sec let me look online quick [04:18] only reference i've seen is the problem was starting xfce as root [04:19] which i was not doing [04:22] ok i typed /ns help register and i didnt get a website or anything to register with does it auto do it?????????????? [04:23] srry [04:23] lol [04:23] tired [04:23] :-) [04:23] trying to help two people here [04:26] grrrrrrrrr [04:26] ? [04:27] did you try to use ubuntu server instead or not yet? [04:27] oh nothing [04:27] im trying to register myself in konversation but am having problems [04:30] u still here? [04:31] yes [04:31] ubuntu server? no. [04:33] alright try killing xfce4 and reboot computer then use menu to switch to kde server [04:33] then finish logging in [04:33] then we will try to reinstall xubuntu-desktop [04:35] ok let me know when u are back [04:36] oh... [04:36] not sure we quite want to do that [04:36] why is there not a move to or copy to when i right click on a file in xubuntu i got cut copy but no copy to or move i want to move a bunch of files from one drive to a backup how do i do that not eve drag and drop works ? [04:37] you can use control-click to select multiple files [04:37] otherwise, you can launch nautilus :-) === Sinister` is now known as Sinister [04:38] well im at a loss other than that and by the sounds of it so is eveyone in ubuntu channel [04:39] so i have to install nautilus now ? [04:40] if it involves the desktop, you have to ctl-click [04:40] nautilus is gnome's file manager, which is slower, albeit a bit less primitive than xfce's. [04:40] it might be easier to open terminal to do it... [04:41] i just wanted to do away with gnome and kde [04:41] xfce is tighter and lighter than metacity, for sure. [04:42] b ut if i dont have a move to thats sorta retarded i have toi cxopy then del the old one [04:42] you do in the terminal [04:42] yeah i can mv everything [04:42] mv /directory/file_old_location /directory/file_new_location_and_or_name [04:42] ok [04:43] i wanted lighter and faster but doing everything in console wasnt what i wanted im still gona use xchat no bitchx for me [04:44] unfortunately, there's an interesting thing that happens with linux users... [04:45] which is that, when they get good enough to be frustrated with the desktop environment in one aspect or another, they tend to move into the terminal/shell :-) [04:45] so certain kinds of things never seem to get done :-) [04:47] never seen anything like this move to maybe blackbox has it i can honestly say becides move to and copy to xfce i love [04:47] brb [04:49] i forgot i didnt install anything else [04:50] wonder if i could install kde 3.5 [04:50] i liked that better than 4.0 [04:50] as far as graphical file management, it's kind of a loss. i've found my best luck dragging between instances of thunar. [04:50] thunar ? [04:50] selecting multiple items graphically is annoying, but you can get used to it, or tie a bonus mouse-button to send the ctrl-click. [04:50] thunar is the file manager that comes with XFCE [04:51] i use it because it's the lightest, fastest one, and once you get used to it, it's as good as nautilus, minus certain kinds of preview features. [04:51] i know how to pick mutipul items but after i pick them all there is nothing to do with them i can move them to a differnt drive [04:51] i can copy them and paste to a differnt drive [04:52] oh, ok [04:52] thats retarded [04:52] here's the trick [04:52] first: [04:52] open the place that you want to put them [04:52] yeah [04:52] make sure nothing is selected in that window unless it's a folder [04:52] ok [04:52] then ctrl-click the items you want, and you can do cut [04:52] then paste them to the new location if it's an empty window [04:52] by right-click [04:52] or paste them INTO a folder [04:52] which you can do if you right-click on the destination folder. [04:52] if you do anything else, it may 'forget' [04:52] so you have to do the steps directly. [04:53] yeah i know that but dont move to sound like it nshould be standared [04:53] i don't understand? [04:54] right click on a file i can copy delete cut rename but no move to or copy to [04:54] oh, i see. you want standard destinations under your right-click [04:54] yeah [04:55] cant even drag and drop them [04:55] that's probably something you can get out of nautilus [04:55] copys them is all [04:55] drag and drop from desktop is copy [04:55] yes [04:55] but they're still selected on the desktop [04:55] so you can right-click and delete them [04:55] admittedly, an extra step. [04:55] im lazy i guess [04:56] could i use konkoror or how ever its spelled ? [04:57] i dont want to get infected with windows or gnome [04:59] Thought I'd try this out first. Having trouble booting at all in Xubuntu 8.04...just get a "please wait loading..." on a black screen, no GUI. Any help is appreciated. [05:01] sin - if you install / use kde, you can use konq [05:02] well it installed some kde stuff but not much like 15 meg === Sinister` is now known as Sinister [05:03] how do i set this nickserv so it dont steel my nick [05:04] User reg. : Dec 08 18:14:45 2002 (6 years, 1 week, 3 days, 10:49:08 ago) [05:04] im still new to this im use to undernet [05:04] and talking to w [05:05] how old is freenode ? [05:07] This is my first time using IRC, so no clue about 99% of this. [05:08] over 10 years iv been using it and i have no clue so were even [05:08] Heh! Good stuff, then. [05:08] I'm just trying to get my machine to boot without resorting to a full reinstall. [05:08] It did it to me the other night, too, but worked fine today, until about an hour ago. No changes, aside from installing VLC. [05:09] Thank God for alternate installs. [05:11] i only use linux cuz its free fast and everything works im not paying 100.00 for a OS [05:12] That's why I switched to it, and I thought it'd be good to learn something new. [05:13] Any ideas on how to get a system to boot when it won't even show the load bar? Xubuntu 8.04 [05:13] It also freezes on safe boot. Locks up (somehow) when it tries to load the keyboard as input1. [05:21] Anyone here know if a V-Gear Talkcam Pro will work in Xubuntu? [06:34] what could be the problem ... i have xubuntu installed on a machine i want to give to my aunt for xmas, but i can't seem to get it networked right .... its recognizing my wireless connection, but apparently not connecting to it (altho the icon shows it connected) could anyone help me troubleshoot? [06:34] is it a WPA encrypted connection? [06:35] uhhhh, not sure [06:35] that might matter :-) [06:36] Anyone here know if a V-Gear Talkcam Pro will work in Xubuntu? Or have the desire or drive to help me set it up? [06:36] how do i check, i'm pretty sure my garage machine never had a problem with it, i turn it on with the same adapter and it connects straight away [06:36] Ultraputz: i mean, i have not encrypted anything. i'm not smart enough to. [06:37] the router might be using WPA encryption, i've had trouble (and so have others) with it. [06:37] it's a place to start looking [06:37] whats the first step ... ? :P [06:38] its a dlink 1310 [06:39] go to the web interface for it and see what kind of wireless setup you have [06:40] ok, wheres the web interface? you mean the network configurator in xubuntu? [06:41] cant i just have it set to not need encryption? [06:41] nope [06:41] on the router itself [06:41] whatever machine can get to it, try 192.168.0.1 [06:41] that usually the web interface for the router. [06:41] for dlink [06:42] so, this machine i'm on is hardwired to that router, can i find out from this machine? [06:42] oh, hardwired to the machine? [06:43] er [06:43] yes [06:43] that shoudl be fine [06:43] this one is, not the one i'm trying to connect wireless [06:43] on moms computer now [06:43] right [06:44] do i open the network manager on this? [06:44] or is this a terminal thing [06:44] to get to the router, you use a browser [06:44] 192.168.0.1 is the address for most dlink routers by default. [06:46] omg, yes comes up to a dlink page that i *vaguely* recall visiting b4, but its got a username and password entry that i'm sure i don't know .... arrrgggghhhh [06:46] in xfce what puts the splash screen up? [06:47] http://pastebin.com/m2760b820 <-- can someone please help me get this webcam (V-Gear Talkcam Pro) working with my linux Ubuntu 8.04 box? PLEASE [06:47] i think you can see what's up from the linux box -- the network status icon on the system tray [06:48] serraphyn - you might try generalizing your query to #ubuntu... [06:48] most of the tools you will need are not xubuntu-specific [06:52] Ultraputz: the dlink help support page says to use 'admin' and leave password blank by default, but it does not log me in [06:52] password has probably changed since then [06:52] this is your router? [06:54] yes, my router [06:54] you know teh wireless password to use it? [06:54] or does it have one ? [06:55] no, i don't ever remember needing one .... i use the same linksys adapter on another machine i have in the garage, and it doesn't ask me for password [06:55] then that's likely not the problem [06:55] start from teh top-- what is it doing or not doing? [06:56] is it a usb adapter, by chance? [06:56] yes, its usb [06:56] works fine on other machine [06:56] you might look it up in google, like whatever model then add the word 'ubuntu' or 'linux' [06:56] is the other machine running linux ? [06:56] yes, same version of xubuntu [06:57] thats what stumps me [06:58] you've tried a different usb port / [06:58] anyways, the machine shows the connection 'dlink' in the network manager, and it shows wireless enabled and checked, but yet i can't connect to any website [06:58] got terminal open ? [06:58] try "ping google.com" [06:58] on the problem machine, or this one [06:58] the problem machine [06:59] if it works, ctrl-c will stop it [06:59] if it doesn't, report the error [06:59] k, lemme go try [07:00] re: my own problem -- i'm noticing a bunch of instances of xfce4-volstatus-icon and gnome-power-manager... [07:00] like something is stuck in a loop launching them? [07:03] ping: unknown host google.com [07:04] Ultraputz: would you know of a way to reset the router to default? would that put it back to nonencrypted? [07:04] if you didn't need a password, it probably isn't encrypted [07:05] oh, yeah ... we said that already :P [07:05] didnt' have much information to go on, so i tossed that out as a possibility, probably not the problem. [07:05] and yes, there are instructions on resetting the router on dlink's site if that comes up. [07:06] arrrrggggghhh [07:07] computers are like cars, the only thing worse than not having one is having one [07:08] got any other suggestions [07:09] have you tried restarting the laptop with the hardware connected? [07:09] er the usb wifi thing? [07:11] oh, yeah, i started it up all connected, and its lit up and everything... like i said the network icon shows connected, and when you look in the connection info it says, you know, dlink, and dhcp [07:11] did you click on it? [07:11] sometimes it sees it, but you have to actually click on it to get it to start [07:11] but theres a short somewhere for sure [07:12] ya, i clicked on the connection, its checked and 'enabled' [07:12] not in the network monitor... [07:12] do you have the system tray applet up ? [07:13] not a laptop, btw, just an old gateway all in one [07:13] ummm, what applet is that? [07:13] does it have a regular network card in it? [07:13] like the system tray in windows? [07:13] you may have to add it to a panel [07:14] hmmm, well the little two monitors icon is in xubuntu's top panel, if thats what you mean [07:14] that's the one [07:15] they would normally have a red x or something to indicate NOT connected [07:15] right click it, i think [07:15] one of the two, and when you see the dlink option, click that [07:16] but no red x, there ... i go try again, but i think i have done that to the point of neurosis already [07:16] brb [07:16] actually, i'm out for the night [07:16] good luck [07:23] how does one add keymap encodings to the XFCE applet? [07:23] the gnome one is easy [07:23] one just has to select new ones [07:23] but there seems to be no option to do that in the XFCE panel applet [07:26] hope someone else can help me troubleshoot this wireless problem .. i did get to a wlan properties window that says password type is wpa personal, and under that is the think that says its set to dchp, and under that is three blank lines, one for mask, subnet mask, etc... if its set to automatic dchp, does there have to be something in those lines? [07:33] how many people have to use a distro before the ops in the channel act like little hitlers like redhat fedora and suse ? === Sinister` is now known as Sinister [07:36] huh? [07:47] is that a riddle? lol. [07:49] omg. i got the wireless working on that $%#^! machine! i dasn't say what the prob was. nite ladies and germs. [07:49] and thanks [08:04] yeah i always thought people were just stuck up using windows like they didnt want anyone else to use it but i see now thats not it the more people use it the more assholes you have [08:06] i ask a question that they think is off topic like ohh my god so they type !off topic so 15 bots can flood the channel and tell me the same thing [08:08] i want to dunk my cell phone in rubber dip like channel lock pilers handles [08:11] hey i did find something interesting for more air flow in your box buy a big ass fan put it on top and cover it with a car speaker grill unless it says the name i think it would look good [09:06] hello [09:07] I've installed today's updates (didn't take notice of which they were, I just clicked on install right away) and now my xubuntu thinks there's a problem with my network connections [09:08] there's an alert icon on my network tray icon, and the popup baloon help says "network funcions disabled", yet the network connection is up and running [09:08] if I right click the icon and choose "modify connections", all tabs are empty (cabled, wireless, mobile broadband, vpn, dsl) [09:09] my connection is a cabled one [09:09] what can be the problem? [09:21] hi [09:35] whats the command to look for missing packages/broken packages and reinstalling them? [09:58] hello... no one here to help please?? [10:15] in xubuntu, where do you manage network settings? Please? [10:15] in xubuntu, where do you manage network settings? Please? [10:16] umm did u look at your taskbar [10:16] ? [10:16] in the taskbar I have a network icon. It shows an alert sign on it. The alert appeared this morning after I downloaded some updates. [10:16] I cant figure out what that alert means and how to get rid of it. [10:17] If I right click on the icon anyway, and choose Modify Connections, I get a blank list under "cabled connections" [10:17] so I can't view or modify my network settings [10:17] what kind of connectiong do u have? [10:18] LAN [10:18] is it pluged in? [10:18] yes and it's working, or so it appears [10:18] what foes the alert say? [10:18] does* [10:18] I'll have to translate from italian [10:19] have u tried lf clicking on it? [10:19] lf = left [10:19] the baloon help message says "network functions disabled" (when I hover the mouse pointer on the icon) [10:19] left click on the icon and see if its circled [10:20] u should see a list of available connections [10:20] if I right click the icon and choose "connection informations" it says "error in displaying network informations: no valid active connection was found" [10:20] left click [10:20] if I left click, a menu appears which says: [10:20] "cabled network: the device is unmanaged" [10:21] what version of xubuntu [10:21] 8.10 [10:21] all OK until this morning after the updates [10:21] hmmm [10:21] whaat updated? [10:22] I didn't take notice... the system said there were updates, I installed them but didn't notice which they were [10:22] ok [10:22] have u restarted since update? [10:23] multiple times [10:26] how do I completely remove the network applet and reinstall it? [10:29] sudo apt-get remove/install what? [10:30] umm how are u going to get it back if u remove it? [10:30] and §orry i dont what the name is [10:30] i want to remove just the applet not all the network [10:31] i would look in synaptic [10:31] search for network [10:32] ße Right ßack [10:41] http://www.gs1.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6316688 [10:41] this is my exact issue [10:46] how do I retrieve the list of the updates I have installed? [10:46] and how do I remove an update if I find which one is culprit? [10:47] im §orry but i do not know [10:47] im sure some1 in here does tho [10:47]