[00:00] * Peng_ mirrors a btree branch. Yay! [00:14] * jml toasts the new release [00:14] ... with toast [00:17] * Hobbsee puts the release in the toaster? === jamesh_ is now known as jamesh [00:21] yay attachments in code reviews. === tex`off is now known as messiahtex [01:57] luisbg: first you want my CF reader and now you want private branches! [01:57] luisbg: ping me tomorrow and we can talk about it. [02:40] rockstar: Hah. Possibly. [02:42] Oh good, so not all of the archives have keys yet. I saw kiko's objection and thought it might have been too late... [02:44] How much entropy is it gonna take to generate all of those gpg keys? :X [02:44] enough to require a HW RNG [02:46] I wonder how badly you guys can stuff up something so important... LP doesn't often push things to places where they can never be removed. [02:54] wgrant: thanks for the vote of confidence [02:56] why, what happened? [02:58] elmo: Well, it already very nearly went very, very wrong. [02:58] wgrant: dude, it went nowhere near going anywhere [02:59] since I haven't given anyone the HW RNG yet [02:59] elmo: So it wouldn't have gone ahead soon after the rollout if kiko hadn't objected? [02:59] Ah. [03:02] what's the actual horribleness in any event? the name? [03:03] * Peng_ has no idea what's going on [03:04] elmo: The UID on the keys, yes. [03:09] I made an import request for a CVS repo that requires ext/ssh authentication, and now I see this isn't accepted. I want to remove or edit this request to use an anonymous pserver method instead. Anybody know how I can do this? [03:09] noelbush: we support ext repos now, fwiw [03:10] noelbush: can you point me to it? [03:10] or if you can use pserver details, i can delete the :ext: import request and approve a new one [03:10] mwhudson: Oh, that's good news. The page for my import request is: [03:10] https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/programd/trunk [03:11] * mwhudson grrs [03:12] mwhudson: ? [03:12] noelbush: something else, don't worry :) [03:12] noelbush: hm, it's asking me for a password [03:13] mwhudson: Okay, thought I said something wrong. :-) Password is "anonymous" [03:13] i don't think we can support that [03:14] Okay, then this CVSROOT should work for anonymous pserver: :pserver:cvs-anon@aitools.org:/var/aitools/cvs [03:16] cool [03:16] Yay! [03:20] mwhudson: I see from the page that it's been reviewed and is scheduled to import. Thanks very much! [03:58] Hi guys, quick question. I was going to set an out of office for the holidays on my work email, but i'm a bit worried to do so because i'm subscribed to a ton of bugs. I don't want out of office reply spam to end up on all of those bugs. It will apparently send an OOO reply once to each sender. does launchpad filter those types of replies? [03:59] superm1: launchpad sets X-Precedence: bulk [03:59] superm1: any remotely well behaved OOO will ignore such emails [03:59] elmo, well this is exchange we're talking about, so i'm not sure how well behaved it is... [04:00] superm1: it's been half a decade, but AFAICR exchange does respect that [04:00] elmo, okay i'll see it then and see how things go :) [04:01] superm1: unless your exchange install is pre-historic, google suggests it'll be ok. [04:01] elmo, great thanks! yeah it's exchange 2003, so it should be fine [04:56] Does anyone know why when using the api calling me.mugshot_link I get https://api.staging.launchpad.net/beta/~joshuablount/mugshot ? [04:57] per the api-doc it should be "A large image of exactly 192x192 pixels, that will be displayed on your home page in Launchpad. Traditionally this is a great big picture of your grinning face. Make the most of it! It should be no bigger than 100kb in size." [05:04] joshuablount, I don't think that's how you grab files [05:05] I think that's what I'd expect from mugshot_link [05:06] kiko: I was hoping for a link (url). So this is actually sending me the file, not the link? [05:06] well, you can get both (it's going to be in launchpadlibrarian.net though) [05:07] kiko: eh, I was mostly fooling around. I was just confused on the response. [05:08] kiko: Thanks for the api help though! My next goal is a gnome-applet telling me my LP karma. [05:08] joshuablount: perhaps you ask that api.staging.launchpad.net URL what the image url is? [05:09] ah, that isn't a hard thing to build [05:11] kiko: Sure, I've got the karma easily enough, it's figuring out how to put it inside this bar at the top of my screen that will be difficult (for me) [05:11] :) [05:12] joshuablount: are you going to graph your karma? [05:13] jamesh: I plan to just print the number for now, next to the date, so I can see how awesome I am. I suppose graphing and tracking is the next task after that though... === stub1 is now known as stub [07:47] \sh: ping === doko_ is now known as doko === kiko is now known as kiko-zzz [08:52] <\sh> Sebastian: jo :) [08:53] \sh: Hi! [08:53] \sh: Just wanted to solicit your opinion on https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/309282 :) [08:53] Launchpad bug 309282 in launchpad "Support for PEAR channels" [Undecided,New] [08:53] <\sh> Sebastian: I'll have a look :) And how's life? :) [08:54] \sh: Good. Done travelling for this year and finally home for a couple of weeks. [08:56] <\sh> Sebastian: so you are staying over x-mas in SU? :) Could be that I'm doing some traveling to your direction and would be a good idea to visit some old colleagues :) [08:58] \sh: Sure, we could meet in a cafe or something. [08:59] <\sh> Sebastian: yepp...let's see about the other froscon crew people and Mr. S9Y ... just because I won't find the time next year to attend any conference or fair [09:00] \sh: Sounds like a plan. [09:01] <\sh> Sebastian: +1 for the idea...I commented on the report :) [09:02] \sh: I saw http://support.github.com/discussions/feature-requests/66-pear-channel-like-github-gems-but-for-php mentioned on Twitter earlier today and thought: that is a good idea. I want that for Launchpad :) [09:04] <\sh> Sebastian: yepp...that would be a feature which could give LP a lead in things like code and app hosting :) [09:06] \sh: I started to use bzr and lp recently for new projects. Importing PHPUnit into bzr did not work so far but is something that I want to do long-term. [09:06] <\sh> Sebastian: what is the problem with importing phpunit into bzr? [09:06] \sh: Non-standard repository layout, I guess. [09:07] \sh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/svn2bzr/+bug/258953 [09:07] Launchpad bug 258953 in svn2bzr "bzrlib.errors.NoSuchFile on removal of trunk branch" [Undecided,New] [09:08] \sh: I am using bzr-svn locally now to interact with PHPUnit's Subversion repository. Works for me for now. [09:12] <\sh> Sebastian: that sounds good :) if you move to LP that would be another good news :) [09:14] <\sh> oh no...I thought it's christmas time, but looks like that people do always evil things around this time...:( [10:38] I have successfully imported a project from a CVS repo to launchpad, and now I want launchpad to become the "official" host for the code. Do I just push the code up from my machine as a new branch and set this branch as the main development focus? Or is it possible to "convert" the imported branch to be the main one? And how do I cancel further imports? [10:44] How do I add a new bug tracker to launchpad? Didn't there used to be an interface for that other than e-mailing feedback@ ? [10:44] noelbush1, I think canceling further imports requires a question on LP. Redefinition probably requires the project owner to reset it in the project definition, but is otherwise just a branch. To be "official", there's probably some other documentation (websites, readme, etc.) that need updating. [10:45] soren: Just add a new bugwatch for it. [10:46] wgrant: Let's just for a second imagine that it's not an Ubuntu package, but an upstream project... Does your statement still make sense? If it does, I don't get it :) [10:47] persia: Thanks -- I am the project owner. So essentially, I just make my new branch and set it as the main one, and ask for the imported one to be stopped with a Question? [10:47] soren: Oh, you want to tell a project's +edit where its bugs are tracked, without having previously registered a bugwatch? [10:48] https://edge.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/+newbugtracker might work. [10:48] wgrant: That was my intention, but registering a bugwatch as the first step is fine... Now, how do I do that? [10:48] It's well hidden. [10:48] I'm not sure where it's linked to from. [10:48] wgrant: Oh, that's handy. [10:48] Here's what I tried: [10:49] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/opennebula/+filebug [10:49] The "Tell us about it" link is a mailto: link. [10:49] That page is fugly. [10:50] noelbush1, That's my understanding. [10:50] soren: Do you have appropriate administration privileges over that project? [10:50] persia: thx [10:51] If so, that link is stupid and should be fixed. [10:52] wgrant: I do. I registered it a few hours ago. [10:58] wgrant: bug 309300 reported. Thanks for your help. [10:58] Launchpad bug 309300 in malone "Adding a bug tracker for a new upstream project is exceedingly difficult" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/309300 [11:01] soren: np [11:02] soren: I found a link to /bugs/bugtrackers! [11:02] bugs.launchpad.net has it. [11:02] ... in the stats down the bottom. [11:03] Right you are. [11:04] Now why didn't I think to look in the stats on a rarely visited page? [11:13] any lp admins about? dway72aa2 appears to be an abusive wiki editor.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Home?action=info [11:17] hello, could you please kill build https://launchpad.net/~pktoss/+archive/+build/816747 ? [11:17] and this too please: https://launchpad.net/~pktoss/+archive/+build/816748 [11:18] pkt: Have they just hung? [11:18] for more than 20 minutes IIRC [11:18] I believe ubuntu's openjdk is just broken [11:18] If somebody is around, they might kill it. [11:18] If somebody isn't, they'll die after something like two hours of inactivity. [11:19] ah, ok, I won't worry much then :-) [11:19] And if they don't die quickly, somebody will notice and poke them. [11:20] Now I guess, I 'll have to investigate the openjdk bug that causes this. [11:25] oh ffs someone has deleted https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Home again [11:27] popey: The magical deletion that causes it to really go away? [11:27] yes [11:27] i have a backup copy [11:27] Did you find a sysadmin to fix that last time? [11:27] no [11:27] we recreated it [11:27] So I saw, but I meant afterwards. [11:27] no [11:29] put it back... [11:29] would be nice if that page could be set immutable [11:30] dway72aa2 and gera74st4 are spammers [11:30] who should I contact to get their accounts binned? [11:31] popey: You could file a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion, removing that last segment if my memory is too foggy. [11:33] done [11:36] looks like the home page deletion was a daft user renaming it [11:37] popey: I've deleted dway72aa2's attachments and disabled the wiki account. I'll take care of gera74st4 now [11:37] thanks Spads [11:38] popey: what page in particular did gera74st4 spam? [11:38] he edited dway72aa2's page adding attachments [11:38] i suspect they are one and the same person [11:39] oh ahh... [11:39] he came in and redid the attachments [11:39] ok [11:40] looks bot-ish [11:40] anyway, yes, acls for /Home are probably called for [11:40] * popey has added a warning to the top of /Home for now [11:41] yeah, it looks like they set up the lp accounts in advance though [11:42] * popey wishes moin had rss capability - I'd add /RecentChanges to my RSS reader (as I do for other [crappier] wikis which _do_ have rss capability) [11:42] popey: you and me both [11:43] someone must have a web service that watches web page diffs and makes rss out of it.. [11:43] * popey goes huntin [11:46] As a short-term workaround, you could have a wiki account subscribed to the entire wiki, and pump that through a mail->feed gateway [11:46] novel [11:46] it's a shame that a subscription to the recentchanges page doesn't help [11:47] No, you have to subscribe to * [11:47] bet that's not pleasant [11:47] you wouldn't be able to see the wood for the trees [11:48] It oughtn't be any different than recentchanges. [11:48] yeah, you'd get the diff [11:48] whereas recentchanges is a one line summary of each change [11:48] Just needs filtering: preferably to somewhere relatively unread with the gateway. === miken is now known as noodles775 [12:20] Spads: en72abad2 is another spammer [12:21] popey: argh! [12:21] just block all yahoo.ca addresses ;) [12:23] Spads: they all came from the same IP - 94.27.110.146 if that helps [12:25] popey: what did en72abad2 do? [12:25] can't find 'im in the edit-log [12:26] oh, he's the Home trasher [12:27] attachments [12:28] where? [12:28] on Home? [12:28] yes [12:28] okay === andreas__ is now known as ahasenack === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch [12:54] mrevell-lunch: there's a small typo on the signed ppas post, 'the time the of the' === Ursinha is now known as Melvin === Melvin is now known as Ursinha [13:33] what kernel do the autobuilder machines run? is it the standard intrepid kernel? [13:33] pkt, More likely to be hardy. [13:34] I see [13:35] oh, the dreaded 2.6.24 [13:35] pkt, Note that code is built against the target release kernel, in the chroot. [13:36] That doesn't matter. I 'm trying to figure out why it hangs in FUTEX_WAIT [13:36] so the kernel that is running is what is relevant :-) === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell [13:42] Sidnei: Thanks! Fixed. [13:42] hi there :), I requested through launchpad-bazaar answers to delete the current "vcs~imports" of my project 3 days ago but got no answer... should I request it through here? Should I ask somewhere else? thanks :) [13:47] hmm, I 'm now almost certain that this is not a kernel issue, it is probably the openjdk that does something wrong. [13:47] I wonder if LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4 still works in intrepid ... [13:49] Hi. Can somebody please delete the project https://launchpad.net/debcleaner ? I created it but it became unnecessary over the time. Thanks in advance [13:50] MrKanister, You need to ask a question against launchpad at answers.launchpad.net/launchpad [13:52] persia: Sorry, I missunderstood you :/ I will ask a question against launchpad. Thanks you again [14:03] barry / mrevell another mail to launchpad-users which was an answers mail.. [14:03] * mrevell looks [14:03] subject "google.com can not be found" [14:05] popey: do you know which project the question was posted on? [14:08] https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/54524 [14:08] its that one [14:10] popey: It's the same chap again, isn't it? [14:11] looks that way [14:12] * popey notes that ben66kre0 is another launchpad user who is spamming the wiki (from the same IP as the previous ones) but Spads is not about now [14:30] herb: Can you kill a spamming LP user? ben66kre0 is spamming the Ubuntu wiki. popey can provide links [14:32] mrevell: we're on it [14:33] thanks Spads [15:16] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/banshee/+bug/103994 how can we get an "Also notified" removed from this bug? [15:16] Launchpad bug 103994 in banshee "Banshee unable to correctly sort via Album title" [Low,Triaged] [15:16] I am annoyed that some random Ubuntu bug is bothering me via e-mamil. [15:16] e-mail [15:22] warren: sorry - are you saying you're subscribed to the bug? [15:23] elmo: LTSP upstream [15:24] warren: if you're a member of the group, you should be able to hit 'unsubscribe' on the portlet in the right [15:24] there is no unsubscribe [15:24] warren: you can filter these e-mails using some of the extra headers LP adds [15:24] stgraber: how am I supposed to get legitimate mail then? [15:25] stgraber: how did LTSP get added to this anyway? [15:25] completely irrelevant [15:25] warren: you can for example only get the e-mails where you are a direct subscriber or something like that [15:25] stgraber: the correct solution would be to remove our group from this. but how? [15:26] warren, sorry, there currently is no way yo unsubscribe from that, or delete the bugtask. We are working on different ways to solve this general problem. [15:26] I guess we're still notified because someone added an upstream LTSP task [15:26] I then dropped this bugtask but we're still receiving these mails [15:27] beuno: being able to delete the bugtask would be really good in such a case as there is really no link between that bug and ltsp .. [15:27] stgraber, yeap, that's one of the solutions [15:27] the other is to be able to mute specific bugs [15:28] beuno: is it possible to create mail filter like: Bugs where I'm an indirect subscriber (team membership) and the current status is Invalid ? [15:29] why cannot the bug task be removed? [15:29] warren, "implementation details". Again, it's being worked on. [15:29] stgraber, I can't think of a nice way of doing that right now [15:30] DELETE statement directly in SQL? =) [15:31] warren, let me check with the developers real quick [15:34] warren: It's not *quite* that simple; BugTasks are linked to in a lot of places. [15:35] And a lot of things break if they go away. [15:35] I was joking [15:35] stgraber: yes, it's possible if you look at the bug headers. to see that you are an indirect subscriber you need to look at the X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale header [15:35] stgraber: it will look like 'Subscriber @teamname' [15:36] stgraber: if you're subsribed directly, it will have only 'Subsriber' [15:36] stgraber: the status can be gotten from the X-Launchpad-Bug header. although it's a bit tricky, since the bug can have multiple such headers. [15:37] stgraber: each header include the project and its status [15:41] warren: we are aware of the problems with irrelevant bug tasks (like the LTSP one), and will work on fixing it. === fenris_ is now known as e-jat [15:44] where did the 'register a new project' link go? i can't find it anymore on edge [15:44] nm, found it. [16:01] Spads: Der74hva3 is another spammer [16:01] just removing attachments from their home page [16:01] http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu:en-GB:unofficial&hs=rQL&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=britney+spears+ubuntu&spell=1 [16:02] popey: urgh [16:03] Spads: sorry dude, dunno why I'm getting these all today - people are mailing me about the spam! [16:03] popey: that looks old [16:03] I think I disabled that one this morning [16:03] * elmo appoints popey as Ubuntu Spam Czar [16:04] well, I _just_ deleted the attachments [16:04] * popey prefers lobster thermidor [16:04] hmmm, that may actually be *old* then... === sabdfl1 is now known as sabdfl [16:13] popey: okay, Der74hva3 has been killed from LP now [16:20] nice work Spads [16:27] popey: thank herb! [16:28] now, how do i create a 'project group'? [16:54] Sidnei, you currently have to ask an admin [16:54] epsy: yeah, created a question https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/54843 [16:54] hopefully mrevell is paying attention *wink* [16:54] I wasn't but I am now :) Let me read up [16:56] Sidnei: I'm afraid I don't have admin-foo but I can prod a man who does :) [16:56] mrevell: thank you! [17:00] Sidnei, holy crap that's a lot of imports. [17:00] rockstar: no kidding dude, my fingers hurt ;) [17:00] And now you're going to make mine hurt. :) [17:02] hehe, sorry for that. [17:02] Sidnei, welcome to the land of approved code imports. [17:03] * Sidnei collectively hugs his brand new launchpad projects, rockstar and mrevell. ;) [17:03] :) [17:03] Sidnei, is chameleon your project? [17:04] rockstar: not, not directly. i will be working on getting launchpad running on it though, so will be nice to be able to create some bzr branches. also, they didn't have a bugtracker yet. [17:05] Sidnei, ah, okay. === kfogel is now known as ns2 [17:11] Looking at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~planet-ubuntu/config/main I was wondering why my name isn't a link like jorge & leo's, is it just because the pricechild@pricechild-laptop would need to be my email? === ns2 is now known as kfogel [17:11] Also, is there any news on https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/52942 ? [17:19] PriceChild: What does `bzr lp-login` say? [17:25] PriceChild, you need bzr whoami [17:26] PriceChild, I did `bzr whoami "Paul Hummer "` Launchpad parses that, and sees that I have my email from bzr set up as my email on Launchpad. [17:35] Thanks rockstar [17:35] PriceChild, no problem. [17:35] and pici :) === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck [20:38] * Hobbsee waves [20:45] * thumper waves at Hobbsee [20:45] thumper: :) [20:45] * wgrant wafts in. [20:55] looks like https://edge.launchpad.net/~maurizioantillon and https://edge.launchpad.net/~maurizio-live should probably both be killed [20:55] properly, this time [20:58] Hobbsee: with a bullet? [20:59] thumper: i don't think I can answer that while still following the CoC. But i thought you could kill accounts properly after the rollout [20:59] Ooh, they can do that now, can't they? Finally! [20:59] :) [20:59] wgrant: if they've done it right, and fixed all the bugs, they should be able to [20:59] The accounts can actually die! [20:59] I don't know much about killing accounts [21:00] thumper: Suffice to say that it was broken until yesterday. [21:00] But should be fixed now. [21:00] 'broken' meaning something like this: LOSA disables account -> user clicks forgotten password link -> user clicks on link in email -> user files lots of spam -> LOSA disables account -> ... [21:01] wgrant: you forgot "user tries to sign in, and gets told that the account is either wrong or deactivated, so they should use the forgotten password link" -> [21:02] Ah, true. [21:18] Hobbsee, wgrant, I reviewed those branches, and yes, it is fixed "properly" now. [21:18] \o/ [21:18] rockstar: kill ~launchpadtest so I can try to break it? ;) [21:18] rockstar: Excellent! I'd assumed as much from the test plans, but confirmation is good. [21:19] sorry, ~test12345 [21:20] Hobbsee, I'm just a lowly dev, no admin privs. [21:20] rockstar: awww [21:20] rockstar: i might try to poke spm for it in a copule of hours [21:21] spm won't be around 'til next year I believe. [21:26] oh, holidays? [21:35] holidays \o/ [21:36] * wgrant sentences Nafallo to live in his DC. [21:37] He does that already. [21:37] yay \o/ [21:37] wgrant: does that mean I finally get a bed? :-) [21:37] Nafallo: Yes. [21:38] woho! [21:39] but it'll be made of rocks. [21:39] No, servers. [21:39] At least it'll be warm [21:39] But maybe a bit hard. [21:39] And loud. [21:40] bbl. another movie. [21:41] Nafallo: Looks like you'll listen to music all night... [21:55] jpds: hehe. :-)( === glade88 is now known as glade88|ZzZ === sale_ is now known as sale [22:41] barry https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/54877 another launchpad answers one that has arrived on the launchpad-users list - same user again [23:15] popey: i see it. this person needs a stern talking to. i will politely explain the situation :) [23:15] heh, you sure it's deliberate? [23:15] popey: nearly so. i'm looking at the headers from the launchpad-users post and it looks like it goes directly from his/her jp machine to forster, our mlist server [23:16] if it had gotten posted from answers, it would have very different Received headers [23:18] Can somebody please kill that user? [23:19] That also doesn't look much like a Launchpad error. [23:43] popey: polite message sent. we'll see if that helps [23:44] :) === barry is now known as barry-away === barry is now known as barry-away