[03:11] <charlie-tca> Anyone having issues with cd´s not ejecting using the drive button? I have to right-click and hit eject to open the drawer
[03:12] <charlie-tca> if there is a install cd in it.
[09:19] <Sebastian> Is there a list of the changes made so far in jaunty somewhere? Looks like a bug of mine has been fixed in jaunty but still exists in intrepid. And I might want to upgrade early (as in "now") to jaunty.
[09:19] <BUGabundo_work> Sebastian: for bug fixing you can either look at launchpad
[09:19] <BUGabundo_work> or the changes.u.c
[09:20] <Sebastian> changes.u.c?
[09:22] <Sebastian> Reading through https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/jaunty-changes/ now.
[09:24] <BUGabundo_work> you can also look at the source package that you want to know if it was fixed
[09:25] <Sebastian> That is the problem: I don't know which package would contain the fix.
[09:27] <BUGabundo_work> ok
[09:27] <BUGabundo_work> what was the problem you had?
[09:28] <Sebastian> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/42361
[11:41] <smallfoot-__> is dec18 today, when is come alpha"?
[11:41] <smallfoot-__> alpha2
[11:41] <smallfoot-__> i hope you not gonna try to delay it
[11:44] <BUGabundo_work> smallfoot-__: you can already try the daily
[11:44] <BUGabundo_work> !daily
[11:45] <smallfoot-__> oh
[11:45] <smallfoot-__> its live too! cool
[11:45] <BUGabundo_work> ah?
[11:45] <smallfoot-__> i like live
[11:45] <smallfoot-__> livecd
[11:45] <BUGabundo_work> yes
[11:45] <BUGabundo_work> of course
[11:45] <BUGabundo_work> why wouldn't it be?»
[11:46] <smallfoot-__> i thought it wouldnt be live
[11:46] <smallfoot-__> i thought live was luxuary
[11:48] <BUGabundo_work> nope
[11:48] <BUGabundo_work> I think that the day after alpha1 there were already live images
[11:55] <smallfoot-__> oh cool
[11:55] <smallfoot-__> intrepid was crap in alpha 1-3, then in 4 it got little better and in 6 it was pretty nice
[11:55] <smallfoot-__> how is jaunty?
[11:55] <smallfoot-__> i noticed the restart didnt work in alpha1, but other then that, it seemed pretty solid?
[11:56] <BUGabundo_work> humm a few bugs here
[12:15] <smallfoot-__> oh
[12:21] <milos_> !logs
[12:25] <milos_> does anybody know when nvidia will be installable?
[12:33] <BUGabundo_work> it aint right now??
[12:33] <BUGabundo_work> then I have no idea how mine is running! LOL
[12:34] <BUGabundo_work> compiz, nvidia-settings all OK
[12:34] <BUGabundo_work> milos_: ^^^^^^^^^^
[12:36] <milos_> BUGabundo_work, did you update your pc this morning?
[12:39] <milos_> BUGabundo_work, after update it removed my nvida-glx-177. When i try to install it, it says that will remove hole Xorg
[12:40] <BUGabundo_work> yep
[12:40] <BUGabundo_work> sure did
[12:40]  * BUGabundo_work checking
[12:40] <BUGabundo_work> 177 instaled
[12:40] <BUGabundo_work> and no reboot request
[12:41] <milos_> stange
[12:41] <milos_> *strange
[12:41] <BUGabundo_work> let me run UM again
[12:41] <milos_> ok
[12:42]  * BUGabundo_work why does this feel like something I may regret later ?
[12:42] <BUGabundo_work> ahhhhhhhhhhh
[12:42] <BUGabundo_work> let me guess
[12:42] <BUGabundo_work> milos_: you ran apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:42] <BUGabundo_work> and not UM, right?
[12:42] <milos_> yup
[12:42] <BUGabundo_work> some Xorg packages are still being built
[12:43] <BUGabundo_work> you just by passed that
[12:43] <BUGabundo_work> I still don't get why doesn't apt warn about that....
[12:43] <BUGabundo_work> I guess its for EXPERTS
[12:43] <milos_> hheh I should run just apt-get upgrade
[12:43] <BUGabundo_work> you should have just used apt-get upgrade (not dist) or UM
[12:43] <milos_> my fault
[12:43] <BUGabundo_work> yep
[12:43] <BUGabundo_work> either downgrade X from cache or wait for it to finnish building
[12:44] <milos_> nv can also do job until then
[12:44] <BUGabundo_work> take a look at  the buildd queue
[12:44] <BUGabundo_work> its been building for 3/4 days now the new X
[12:44] <BUGabundo_work> beats me why it is taking so long
[12:45] <BUGabundo_work> some times, I do like you, force it
[12:45] <BUGabundo_work> but this time I better wait a few more days
[12:45] <BUGabundo_work> until the alpha 2 build is out
[12:45] <BUGabundo_work> someone will notice it, besides us two
[12:57] <vega> few days? it's been postponed?
[13:03] <DanaG> Heh, I just did an aptitude dist-upgrade.
[13:04] <DanaG> I figure... since my GPU seems to be slightly broken anyway, I might as well switch to the OSS driver (which currently doesn't do much with the GPU) and get ACPI fixes and such from the new kernel.
[13:05] <milos_> DanaG, nvidia or ati?
[13:05]  * DanaG is going to call HP about the GPU issue.  One night I was using the laptop, and it suddenly hard-rebooted; ever since then, it's randomly locked up, and in Vista, it gets the "atikmdag stopped responding and was successfully restarted" error.
[13:05] <DanaG> ATI.
[13:05] <DanaG> And in Linux, I get a nice hang, with a stacktrace.
[13:06] <DanaG> And with Xorg devouring CPU... and being unkillable.
[13:06] <milos_> yup, use oss driver
[13:06] <DanaG> http://pastebin.com/f24a23070
[13:07] <DanaG> I didn't have any issues before that hard-reboot happened that night.
[13:07] <DanaG> At least I'm within the first 1 month... of a 3 year warranty. =þ
[13:07] <DanaG> SO it should be covered.  Kinda' wishing I'd gotten on-site service, but I can afford a bit of downtime for the sake of fixing it.
[13:09] <DanaG> My laptop is also useful for kernel debugging: I can do serial-over-LAN.  Spiffy.
[13:17] <DanaG> Heh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glchess/+bug/210642
[13:17] <DanaG> A Player Has Died.
[13:17] <DanaG> Died?
[13:17] <DanaG> How do you "die" in chess?
[13:30] <BUGabundo_work> DanaG: I've been getting an strace on Halt for weeks,
[13:32] <BUGabundo_work> bug 308185
[14:08] <DanaG> Heh, I got fglrx to work in intrepid, by downgrading xorg and libdri2... as well as fglrx.
[14:08] <DanaG> fglrx newer than 8.543 doesn't work even in Intrepid.
[14:10] <DanaG> Since I have hardware issues anyway, I'm not going to deal with bug-reporting that right now.
[14:18] <mphill> Am I just lookining the wrong place or has http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/ not been updated at all.
[14:24] <DanaG> Heh, I love how I have a serial console on this machine, over the network.
[14:24] <DanaG> =þ
[14:25] <DanaG> ... and fn-escape is a bindable key.  Nifty.
[14:32] <BUGabundo_work> any key is
[14:33] <BUGabundo_work> if you use keytouchd
[14:33]  * BUGabundo_work had to say something... it was looking bad to see DanaG talk to himself
[14:34] <DanaG> =þ
[14:34] <DanaG> This is random: [ 2170.250987] ata2.00: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x10000 action 0xe
[14:35] <DanaG> Just randomly had my CD drive act as if I had triggered a reset of the port.
[14:49] <dickydoo2> How does a cd drive act if you trigger a reset of the port? O.o
[15:16] <DanaG> argh, if I vt-switch with ATI... then it switches back automatically (apparently due to consolekit, or something, because it happens on nvidia, too)... but on ATI, you then get the issue of the server receiving ctrl-C, instead of the apps under it.  =þ
[15:20] <NoelJB> DanaG: if I understand correctly, have you turned off splash as a boot param?
[15:21] <DanaG> Hmm, I don't think I have; will that fix it?
[15:22] <NoelJB> DanaG: you mentioned nvidia.  with nvidia, if splash is enabled, the virtual terminals are hosed.
[15:22] <NoelJB> don't know about ATI
[15:22] <DanaG> VT works fine; it's the switching that's screwed up.
[15:25] <NoelJB> DanaG: Ah, I see ... OK, this is new.  VT was working earlier.  Any idea when this started?
[15:26] <NoelJB> Confirming that I see it switching back to X automatically.
[15:26] <NoelJB> But ... if I do it more than once, it stays on the VT.  Interesting.
[15:28] <NoelJB> DanaG: so the first time I switched to a VT, it bounced right back to X on 7, but thereafter I've been able to switch to and use the text consoles.  Is it consistent for you?
[18:08] <vatts> hey can i ask you something about modifying ubuntu
[18:08] <vatts> #ubuntu is kinda busy
[18:08] <vatts> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-linux-mint-livecd-with-remastersys
[18:09] <vatts> so i install this, add/rem progys and then it'll "recompile" it into cd/dvd?
[19:07] <HOMEMADEJAM> I have this blog which contains many useful tips for new Ubuntu users :) Feel free to check it out:  http://jamsubuntu.blogspot.com
[19:13] <LjL> ikonia: ...
[19:13] <ikonia> LjL: lag on homejam after I told him yesterday
[19:13] <LjL> i know
[19:13] <ikonia> already sent a pm to habtool
[19:15] <Alexia_Death> Hi. did a dist-upgrade to jaunty early as per usual... things broke as expected. But theres a few X specific things omebody may wanna explain?
[19:15] <Alexia_Death> First, I seeem to have lost tap -kicking from my touchpad....
[19:16] <Alexia_Death> clicking*
[20:22] <Alexia_Death> anybody around now to comment on the new xorg and its quircks?
[20:23] <Alexia_Death> For some reason my touchpad does not do tap click or edge scroll any more and gsynaptics fails complaining SHMConfig is not true. Ive set it true in xorg.conf...
[20:23] <Alexia_Death> it still complains.
[20:31] <Splex> I think the settings are stored in xml somewhere
[20:32] <Splex> Alexia_Death, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6077309&postcount=121
[20:59] <Alexia_Death> In case somebody cares http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/ElantechTouchpad explains the touchpad issue.
[22:59] <charlie-tca> Anybody here got the desktop (live) cd to work?
[23:00] <charlie-tca> I get a tan background with a cyan square in the upper left. I have to do a hardware power off to exit even,.