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thornomadhi - damon here from the mailing list (recent entry), i posted the bug re intel gigabit card at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/309211 ... would anyone be able to confirm it ?  Thanks!02:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 309211 in linux "Intel Gibabit Ethernet NIC (82541PI) Operating at Sub-Par Speeds" [Undecided,New]02:10
duanedesignbug #Bug #309146:02:29
duanedesignThis report is public02:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 309146 in nautilus "change eject icon on CD / DVD drive when no media present" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30914602:29
duanedesignbug #309146 this bug needs to be set to Wishlist. Thank you in advance02:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 309146 in nautilus "change eject icon on CD / DVD drive when no media present" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30914602:31
Hobbsee(done)02:31
duanedesignHobbsee: do feature requests normally get forwarded upstream?02:38
Hobbseeduanedesign: yes02:38
duanedesignHobbsee: thank you for your help.02:39
Hobbseeyou're welcome02:40
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duanedesignA feature request that is asking for a different arrow icon depending on whether or not a CD is in the drive.Would the appropriatte package be nautilus or human-theme03:41
macoif a suitable icon exists in the theme, i think just nautilus. otherwise, probably touches both.03:43
macoi mean, nautilus would need to know to change the icon03:44
macomaybe ask in #ubuntu-desktop to see if anyone knows if nautilus is currently capable of changing the icon based on that status?03:44
duanedesignthank you, that was a huge help03:46
pckchemDo we support mythbuntu?05:33
persiapckchem, Yep.05:36
persiaOfficial flavours are Ubuntu Desktop, Kubuntu Desktop, Edubuntu, Xubuntu Desktop, Ubuntu Studio, Mythbuntu, Ubuntu Server, Ubuntu MID, and Ubuntu UMPC (for intrepid)05:37
pckchemThanks persia05:59
* pckchem reopens that bug report...05:59
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dholbachgood morning07:52
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thekornhello #ubuntu-bugs09:30
dholbachhello thekorn09:30
BUGabundo_workolleh thekorn09:30
thekornheya dholbach and BUGabundo_work!09:32
arahave you tried today to report bugs with apport? It reports me network errors with the database server10:15
BUGabundo_workara refresh the page10:40
BUGabundo_workknow prob with LP server replication10:40
BUGabundo_workit has been happening to me over the last 2 weeks10:40
MrKanisterHey. Has somebody the rights to delete the project https://launchpad.net/debcleaner ? I created it but it became unnecessary13:47
PiciMrKanister: You may want to ask in #launchpad13:48
persiaMrKanister, You'll want to ask a question against launchpad: the crew in #launchpad can help if you get stuck.13:48
MrKanisterPici and persia: Thank you. I will ask there13:48
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xubuntusdiCiao a tutti16:02
hggdhbdmurray, a question: hoe does one set an upstream task as 'fix committed'?16:12
hggdhs/hoe/how/16:12
bdmurrayhggdh: Is the upstream task a bug watch?16:13
hggdhyes16:13
hggdhand yes, I know16:13
bdmurrayIf the bug watch is working it should happen automatically.16:13
bdmurrayhggdh: What bug number is it?16:14
hggdh bug 30352816:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 303528 in evolution "Message Filters targeting IMAP folders point to local@local" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30352816:15
hggdhfrom the bug status page: For a bug task about an upstream project: the fix is in CVS/SVN/bzr or committed to some place16:15
bdmurrayI seem to recall a LP developer saying not every bug watch is getting updated.  If you wanted you could reflect the upstream status as FC by modifiying the evolution (ubuntu) task to FC.  But that is a hack.16:18
bdmurrayIt's interesting that someone in the upstream bug is still having the issue.16:19
hggdhyes. that is what we usually do for most desktop, but calc ans slangasek are of a different opinion16:19
bdmurrayOkay, what are you really asking then?16:21
hggdhI do not understand the phrase "For a bug task about an upstream project: the fix is in CVS/SVN/bzr or committed to some place"16:21
bdmurrayThat mirrors what the desktop team does.16:21
hggdhyes. The point is we cannot set an upstream bug watch, so this phrase has not much of a meaning16:22
bdmurrayI guess it might read better as 'For a bug with a bug task about an upstream project'?16:22
hggdh(BTW, I mean set status on an upstream bug)16:23
hggdhI am not sure it reads better... is we are not to set FC for patches in SVN/whatever upstream, then we better not even say anything about that16:24
bdmurrayhggdh: I see your point.  I also think the desktop-bugs team has a valid uses case as there are ~50 bugs that they've set FC (because they are Fixed upstream) but the bug watch isn't reflecting that.  If the bug was left as triaged it would still show up in their TODO list so to speak.16:30
hggdhbdmurray, yes. I can understand the case for local fixes (i.e., in our bzr), but not this16:31
bdmurrayI think removing it makes sense though as it seem to be a corner case16:32
hggdhyes. I think it confuses more than helps.16:33
hggdhor -- if this is how it is to be done -- clearly state that FC is *never* dto be used on the Ubuntu task until the fix is available in -proposed16:36
hggdhs/until/unless/16:36
torkianocan anyone assign importance to bug 279430 ?16:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 279430 in texmaker "[intrepid]Texmaker requires complete texlive installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27943016:38
MrKanisterIf a package from "main" was fixed in Debian on 15.03.2008, can I mark it as "fix released", because it should already be fixed in the latest Ubuntu release? (bug #225715)17:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 225715 in aptitude "Recommended packages not automatically removed" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22571517:22
charlie-tcaMrKanister: Since it was included in Intrepid, you should be able to.17:25
MrKanistercharlie-tca: Thank you. I will do so17:26
charlie-tcano problem.17:26
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LaserJockwhat's the "rule" for how long a bug can be in Triaged before people give the "it's been a while" and make it Incomplete?17:56
charlie-tcaI did not think there was a limit17:57
hggdhthere is not17:57
LaserJockjust sort of "it looks like it hasn't been touched in a while"?17:57
charlie-tcaIf it is triaged, it should not go incomplete by triagers, but developers sometimes do that17:57
hggdhwell, if it is in traged, then it (theoretically) has all that is needed for dev/maintainers to work. Or perhaps, it is missing the upstream17:58
hggdhbut it is not incomplete17:58
LaserJockok, how about bug #12144717:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 121447 in gnome-panel "Both About Ubuntu and About Edubuntu show up in menu" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12144717:58
hggdhLaserJock, it certainly should not have been put back in incomplete17:59
hggdhMrKanister, ping18:00
LaserJockhggdh: ok, I see.18:00
MrKanisterhggdh: ping18:01
hggdhMrKanister, ^^18:01
hggdha bug that is triaged is outside the bugsquad scope18:01
MrKanisterYou are talking about bug #121447 ?18:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 121447 in gnome-panel "Both About Ubuntu and About Edubuntu show up in menu" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12144718:02
hggdhyes18:02
MrKanisteroh...I didn't know...the bug seemed abandoned18:02
hggdhMrKanister, np. LaserJock brought it up to our attention, and it is a good point to be made publicly18:03
hggdha triaged bug (except if it needs an upstream bugwatch added) is now the responsibility of the maintainers/packagers/developers (like, for example, LaserJock)18:04
MrKanisterSo in general: If a bug was set to "triaged" it should no longer be set to something like "incomplete" because of a long period of no comment18:04
hggdhcorrect18:04
LaserJockMrKanister: I'd say "dormant" rather than "abandoned" ;-)18:04
hggdhthe maintainer/developer/packager *can* downgrade it, but bugsquad should not18:05
LaserJockhard to tell the difference sometimes18:05
MrKanisterok, dormant seems ok ;)18:05
MrKanisterI#m glad you are telling me18:05
MrKanister*I'm18:05
MrKanisterbut if a bug is "confirmed" it CAN be set back to incomplete because of a question, right?18:08
LaserJockthat would make sense as you're trying to get more info before going to "Triaged"18:09
LaserJockwhen a bug hits Triaged that should say "ok, I got all the info that's needed and it's ready for a dev"18:09
LaserJockso before then it makes sense to set Incomplete on a question18:09
hggdhcorrect -- to my understanding18:10
MrKanisterLaserJock: Thanks18:10
pckchemIs there a workflow for ISO build errors?18:50
pckchemMaybe not build errors but ISO/Live image errors in general.18:51
MrKanisterIs it reasonable that some bugs are only assigned to a project but not to a package? (For example bug #5586)19:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 5586 in gnome-panel "cannot run ubento in the gnome environment" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/558619:46
hggdhMrKanister, it looks like it was set to the wrong package -- it should have been on Ubuntu's gnome-panel instead19:48
MrKanisterSo it's wrong to just have the project affected?19:50
LaserJockthat's an ...interesting bug19:51
hggdhnot necessarily, but gnome-panel is packaged by us19:51
hggdhheh. It is, is it not?19:51
hggdhBTW, this is one of those where I would seriously consider closing invalid after asking for update...19:52
LaserJockI'd be hard pressed to ask for an update first19:52
LaserJock:-)19:52
hggdh:-)19:52
MrKanisterhggdh: ok, I wanted to do that :)19:53
hggdhwelcome, MrKanister19:53
LaserJock"something happened in the GUI and then some other thing flashed me"19:53
MrKanisterIt's a VERY old bug19:53
hggdhthis is what I meant by finding out what was really meant from what was said19:53
LaserJockhggdh: yeah, I can kinda guess, but it's difficult19:54
hggdhMrKanister, it is, and probably invalid now. BUT -- we still have to ask19:54
hggdhagree19:54
hggdhand the best is it writes ubento$$ubento...19:55
LaserJockit looks to me like X is dying on their liveCD19:55
LaserJockconsidering this bug is older than Dapper19:55
hggdhyeah. By the timestamps, this is before dapper... so... unsupported. Since the reporter did not state the distro name, though...19:55
calcwhere do bugs that request things be packaged belong?19:56
MrKanisterI answered him, but I don't think we will get much response19:56
LaserJockI wonder if it's even worth asking anything. I wonder if it would be better to just close the bug and give them a nice paragraph explaining the situation19:56
calcis there a fake package to assign them to?19:56
LaserJockcalc: no19:56
LaserJockcalc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages#Requesting%20a%20new%20package%20for%20Ubuntu19:57
MrKanisterLaserJock: Probably...I will have an eye on the bug. In 4 weeks I wil close it if no answer comes19:57
hggdhLaserJock, I am tempted to just close & explain. But, given feelings around here...19:57
LaserJockhggdh: considering *I'm* the one that complains about bugs being closed too often ;-p19:58
calcLaserJock: ok so it should just be package blank eg Ubuntu ?19:58
hggdh:-D19:58
LaserJockcalc: yep19:58
calcLaserJock: ok19:58
LaserJockcalc: there's a spec for Jaunty about improving that, but that's the current way of doing it19:58
hggdhcalc, there is also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Needs%20Packaging%20Bugs20:01
pckchemAny talks at UDS about getting some anti-spammer tools on LP ?20:22
hggdhpckchem, why?20:23
pckchemhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~maurizio-live20:23
hggdhheh. again20:23
pckchemYep. Every couple of days now. There are a few other accounts with similar use patterns.20:23
hggdhuntil LP puts in the fix to keep a cancelled account cancelled, not much to do20:24
hggdhI am pretty sure some of those I myself invalidated...20:25
hggdhpckchem, what other accounts?20:30
Hobbseehggdh: surely they rolled that out yesterday?20:33
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hggdhHi Hobbsee20:33
Hobbseegreetings!20:33
hggdhI was thinking so, but was not sure20:34
hggdhanyway, the newest is from 2 days ago20:34
hggdhso there is hope20:34
pckchemhggdh: Let me look, I came across one in particular about a week ago so it may take a second to look.20:34
Hobbseethe rollout was done yesterday, so it should be20:37
pckchemhggdh: https://edge.launchpad.net/~maurizioantillon20:49
pckchemObviously some sort of connection between the accounts.20:51
hggdhpckchem, yes, we think it is the same person20:55
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