/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/12/18/#ubuntu-kernel.txt

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apwsmb_tp, when we were talking about kernel builds, we talked about how we did make debug version of the kernel somehow, and how they were done special and went somewhere else.  got any pointers to how that works?11:20
smb_tpapw, Hm, not really. I try to remember but at the moment I don't get it... :(11:23
apwmust ask benc11:23
smb_tpYeah, and I should memorize his answer...11:25
apwnope it should be wikid11:25
apwKeybuk, hey ... mmc things13:09
smb_tp^^^ talking mumble?13:10
apwi am far too sophisticated for that13:11
smb_tpgood excuse :)13:12
apwsmb_tp, so do we have any sort of builtin system for setting up modules specifically to a machine during install?13:48
smb_tpapw, Is there a specific example or case you look at? 13:51
apwi have seen a number of bugs recently asking for specific module options for a particular machine13:51
apw(the one i saw today was about the acerhk driver)13:51
apwif the driver has pci'id detection or whatever then obviously we should be adding ids for that kind of thing13:52
apwbut for other things, i just wondered if we had something which builds modprobe.d/* specific to the machine; i am assuming not13:52
smb_tpI was not aware of something getting added generically. But I might be missing a piece13:54
smb_tpIt would have to be done in the installer, so we might ask cjwatson...13:55
apwit sounds like a dangerous thing to do probabally13:57
apwas if you move the disk to new h/w its wrong13:57
smb_tpRight, I would guess everything on a bus gets added if there is something with the right id. And other things should/would look for dmi information14:00
* apw is not entirly clear which things we are able to do direct probes for14:02
apwit seems the driver i am interested here is actually being superceeded upstream by a new driver which does do appropriate things14:23
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deeHello.16:23
deeI've just build the Ubuntu Kernel like this: http://www.howtoforge.com/roll_a_kernel_debian_ubuntu_way16:23
deeBecause there are no audio drivers build in I must compile linux-ubuntu-modules too. Here's the tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile16:24
deeUnfortunately the process do not recognize my new kernel and tries to use the old header files instead.16:24
deeThe file /lib/modules/2.6.24-22-386/build/include/linux/version.h does not exist.16:24
deePlease install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution16:24
deeor use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel16:24
deesources (default is /lib/modules/2.6.24.3-moto/source).16:24
deeDid anyone know how to solve this?16:25
rtgdee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMaintenance, read 'Getting the source' and 'Performing builds', then install the linux-headers* packages16:27
deeOkay, another version of compiling ...  I will try this one ...16:30
deebye16:30
fitzdslSalut tout le monde !17:53
fitzdslJ'ai un petit problème, j'essaye d'installer xen a partir des paquets (ubuntu-xen-server) (je suis sous intrepid), l'instal se passe bien, mais il ne me créé pas de nouvelle entrée dans menu.lst 17:53
fitzdsl j'ai bien un xen-3.3.gz dans /boot mais c'est la seule reference a xen17:53
fitzdsl pas de initrd ni vmlinuz17:53
Nafallo!fr | fitzdsl17:53
Nafallomeeh. lacking bot.17:54
fitzdslsorry, i made a mistake17:54
fitzdslso Hi17:54
fitzdsli've got a problem to install ubuntu-xen-sever (i run intrepid), the install seems fine but it doesn't change my menu.lst17:55
fitzdsli've got a xen-3.3.gz in /boot but it is the only file with xen reference17:55
NafalloUbuntu kernel development discussion ONLY <-- from the topic. you might want to try #ubuntu :-)17:55
fitzdsli've got no initrd nor vmlinuz17:56
fitzdslthx17:56
apwNafallo, any idea whome to poke to get the bots back18:47
Nafalloapw: #ubuntu-ops I think :-)18:48
tjaaltonapw: seems that upstream fixed the intel headers http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1913219:33
tjaaltonbut it's not going to end up in .2819:33
tjaaltonso you probably want to pull that19:34
apwtjaalton, thanks for the pointer19:47
apwwhats the upshot of the change, that the kernel headers are now usable19:47
tjaaltonapw: we should be able to drop the drm headers form libdrm-dev19:49
tjaalton*from19:49
apwok ... will try and find it, knwo where the drm-intel-next tree hangs out?19:49
tjaaltonbut maybe wait until there's a new libdrm version out, which should be around the corner19:50
apwyeah won't rush into any change, the last one was dangerous enough19:50
tjaaltonheh19:51
tjaaltonI'm searching for the repo19:51
tjaaltonapw: here git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/anholt/drm-intel.git19:52
tjaaltondrm-intel-next branch19:52
tjaaltonAIUI, those are then merged to airlied's drm-next branch19:53
tjaaltonin this case when .29 opens19:53
apwok, its not clear if that is sufficient19:54
apwas in this fix fixes the interaction between the kernel headers and intel drm, but are any of the other consumers affected?  how can we know?19:59
apwtjaalton, ^^19:59
tjaaltonapw: by building every driver, but I'd be surprised if the others would be affected. intel and ati are seeing most of the action these days (and nouveau of course, but it's not included)20:00
tjaaltoner, every driver that uses those headers20:01
tjaaltonso matrox, r128, savage, sis, openchrome20:01
tjaaltonintel and ati are now known to work20:01
apwso intel plus that little fix, and ati with none work with the real kernel headers20:04
tjaaltonati needs one fix, but it was for the X driver20:25
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apwtjaalton, can that fix move without the headers?  ie. can we do all the userspace changes without changing the kernel headers from the ones in libdrm-dev ... when they are all out _then_ do the kernel header flip flop ???23:17

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