[00:05] <Cool_Nick> tgm, you there?
[00:06] <Cool_Nick> tgm4883_laptop,  you are correct.  the recording went fine....
[00:12] <tgm4883_laptop> Cool_Nick, yea i'm in and out today
[00:12] <Cool_Nick> if it records fine, then what is my true problem?
[00:12] <tgm4883_laptop> So if the recording recorded fine, sound like a frontend problem rather than a backend problem
[00:15] <tgm4883_laptop> tough to say, you have a SIP error, but I don't think thats related
[00:16] <tgm4883_laptop> I would try activating the mythtv service in MCC and using your private IP address
[00:17] <tgm4883_laptop> but thats just based on the info given in your logs
[00:18] <Cool_Nick> my private ip?  I thought I was using 127.0.0.1
[00:19] <Cool_Nick> MCC = Myth Control Center?
[00:19] <hads> Yah
[00:27] <tgm4883_laptop> thats localhost, your private ip is probably something like 192.168.x.x
[00:30] <Cool_Nick> same thing
[00:30] <Cool_Nick> wait
[00:30] <Cool_Nick> now its talking about the connection to the master server has gone away for some reason.. Is it running?
[00:31] <Cool_Nick> It is the correct ip (172.16.7.30)
[00:33] <tgm4883_laptop> it's the ip address given to you by your router
[00:33] <hads> Not many people use 172.16
[00:33] <Cool_Nick> yep, thats it
[00:34] <Cool_Nick> I use it...wanted a proper class B address
[00:34] <hads> Well, you can do that with 192.168 or 10.0 so that's not really a reason :)
[00:35] <Cool_Nick> standards wise... 10 is class C and 192 is supposed to be class A
[00:35] <Cool_Nick> and no one else uses 172...which leaves it free for me (school uses 10 and a lot of people use 192)
[00:36] <Cool_Nick> I think my problem is that mysql is only listening to the localhost
[00:36] <Cool_Nick> Ill have to try to remember how to have it listen to everything
[00:37] <hads> Avoiding address space conflicts is a real reason.
[00:39] <hads> You have your classes mixed up too.
[00:40] <Cool_Nick> Mysql is/was accessible remotely
[00:41] <Cool_Nick> hads: real reason why I wanted a proper 255.255.x.y ip.  I use vpn with friends and I wanted x to decide friends networks and y for their computers,  while having broadcasts work for everyone
[00:42] <Cool_Nick> and I connect home from school/work where their ips are 10.
[00:43] <hads> As I said, that's a valid reason. Though you could have done that with 10. or 192.
[00:43] <Cool_Nick> 10 would conflict with school and work
[00:43]  * hads goes back to work
[00:43] <Cool_Nick> 192.168.x.x isn't suppsoed to be
[00:43] <hads> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classful_network
[00:43] <Cool_Nick> a subnet of 255.255.0.0 (although it works)
[00:46] <Cool_Nick> tgm4883_laptop, not sur ehow to get it going with the local ip
[00:47] <Cool_Nick> I tried the setup->general options it put local host to the private ip but I get that message (Ill try closing and reopening the frontend again)
[00:51] <davez0r> has anyone seen this message after upgrading to 8.10?  NVP: Couldn't find a matching decoder for:  /storage/recordings/1102_bignumber.mpg
[00:52] <davez0r> (i made up the big number bit obviously...)
[00:53] <davez0r> i've googled around and seen a few references, but no fixes
[00:56] <schmoop> i am looking to set up a mythbuntu box and was curious if the current installed version of mythtv in the distribution will do dlna with playstation 3 and xbox 360?
[00:58] <davez0r> you want to use a ps3 or a 360 as a full frontend?
[00:59] <davez0r> afaik either can use UPnP, but won't run mythfrontend
[00:59] <schmoop> it would be nice... but if i just could get movies and music i'd be happy
[01:00] <schmoop> it shouldn't need mythfrontend... isn't that the point of the unPn protocol
[01:00] <schmoop> of dlna or whatever they are calling it
[01:00] <davez0r> yeah, give this a read
[01:00] <davez0r> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/UPnP
[01:01] <schmoop> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/UPnP
[01:01] <schmoop> that is what i was looking at
[01:02] <schmoop> i guess i was looking for other experinces... and the xbox360 looks like it needs a specific build and i don't know what come on mythbuntu
[01:02] <hads> It should work with the PS3
[01:02] <hads> I've had a frinds PS3 here and when it was plugged into the network is automatically showed videos and recordings from myth
[01:03] <schmoop> that is all i really was hopping for... was that over wireless or wired connection?
[01:03] <hads> That was wired, didn't try wireless.
[01:05] <schmoop> thanks for the info hads:  i will try it with the xbox360 and if it works will go buy a ps3
[01:05] <abarbaccia> so i have a diskless client setup with nfs to mount the videos and pictures directories from the server. problem is, when the system starts, it attempts to mount prior to the network connection being started. they sit and then time out before continuing to boot. they never actually automatically mount. what is the best way to reorder them and is there an argument to put in your fstab to have them skip?
[01:06] <hads> schmoop: No probs
[01:06] <hads> abarbaccia: noauto will skip mounting on boot. Not sure why you would see that though.
[01:07] <davez0r> so, noone's seen this after upgrading to 8.10?  NVP: Couldn't find a matching decoder for:  /storage/recordings/1102_bignumber.mpg
[01:08] <abarbaccia> hads: they are diskless clients and i don't believe the network connection is started early enough
[01:08] <hads> abarbaccia: I mount NFS from fstab on my diskless clients
[01:09] <abarbaccia> okay back to debugging...
[01:10] <hads> abarbaccia: Where is the mount points?
[01:10] <hads> s/is/are/
[01:10] <abarbaccia> i think im finding the real source of the errors
[01:11] <abarbaccia>  access denied by server while mounting 192.168.1.110:/videos
[01:11] <hads> Ah, okay then :)
[01:11] <abarbaccia> ah found it. i need to specify the full mount path from the serve
[01:11] <abarbaccia> r
[01:11] <abarbaccia> "videos" is not enough - i need the whole thing. whoops
[01:11] <hads> I was going to say if they are below /var or /usr then they are special cased.
[01:11] <hads> And yeah, you got it.
[01:12] <abarbaccia> so what about permissions
[01:12] <abarbaccia> can a user on a different system be in a group on the server?
[01:14] <hads> I don't quite get your question. NFS works by uid and gid matching across systems
[01:18] <abarbaccia> k, got it
[01:19] <abarbaccia> still getting the "Waiting for /var/lib/mythtv/videos..." on boot
[01:44] <hads> 14:11:46 < hads> I was going to say if they are below /var or /usr then they are special cased.
[01:44] <hads> abarbaccia: Try putting it below /mnt to test
[01:45] <abarbaccia> hads: what do you mean? mount the dirs in /mnt instead?
[01:46] <hads> Yeah, try it, see if that fixes it.
[01:46] <abarbaccia> hads: i can't see why it would though. doesn't a script just run through fstab and execute them down the row?
[01:46] <hads> Or don't try it :)
[01:46] <abarbaccia> you have NFS mounts currently in your fstab on a pxe client
[01:46] <abarbaccia> i will - im watching a show and enjoying the manual mount right now ;-)
[01:47] <hads> hehe fair enough :)
[01:47] <hads> Yes, I do have NFS mounts in my fstab
[01:47] <hads> (on a diskless client)
[02:41] <yotux> !mode2
[02:41] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about mode2
[02:41] <yotux> does mode2 not work to test lirc?
[02:45] <yotux> anyone offer some help with lirc
[04:46] <zetheroo> how do I know if lircd is running or not?
[05:11] <map7> zetheroo, check your processes with: 'ps -wax | grep lirc'
[05:30] <hads> There shouldn't be a - in that argument
[05:53] <map7> It's just a force of habit, it works with or without the '-'
[07:45] <hads> map7: It will give you a warning though, see; http://procps.sourceforge.net/faq.html
[10:06] <Cool_Nick> Whats the Username/Password for full access in the mysql database?
[14:00] <jphillip> Cool_Nick root?
[14:44] <jphillip> how does everyone deal with xfs defragging, I have mine set to optimize daily but they both managed to get fragmented up to 9x% and are all full of good recordings now
[14:49] <yotux> can anyone offer some hep in getting Us-Uirt to work or test
[16:02] <diblasio> Hi I am wondering if there is any reason that a clean install of mythbuntu set the default video folder to /var/lib/mythtv/video, but the default location set for the script to scan is  /var/lib/mythtv/videos? It is an easy thing to correct, but I was pulling my hair out for a few minutes.
[16:02] <diblasio> this was on 8.10
[16:09] <Cool_Nick> jphillip, thanx...I for some reason didn't think root would work (thought there would have been a password)
[16:10] <jphillip> Cool_Nick there is only a password if you told there to be one when mysql installed
[16:10] <jphillip> by default root can only login locally as well
[16:11] <Cool_Nick> jphillip, not sure if you can help me on this, but what do I do if I can record but not watch?
[16:13] <jphillip> !blank% | Cool_Nick
[16:13] <Zinn> Cool_Nick: If you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory.  It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory
[16:13] <jphillip> check that first
[16:16] <Cool_Nick> I just gave it a 777 now for good measure
[16:20] <mr_mac> have a few questions about mythbuntu's streaming setup
[17:12] <MythbuntuGuest45> I'm having trouble with mytharchive
[17:12] <MythbuntuGuest45> i'm trying to copy dvd to hd
[17:13] <MythbuntuGuest45> i have set up tmp directory in mytharchive settings
[17:13] <MythbuntuGuest45> when i try to import dvd it just says, "No jobs and nothing else to do. you could rip a dvd."
[17:14] <MythbuntuGuest45> it has a "new rip" button but i cant click on it so i have to esc out
[17:14] <MythbuntuGuest45> my lots are at: http://mythbuntu.pastbin.com/f4877c2fb
[17:16] <laga> that's not mytharchive, that's mythvideo :)
[17:17] <laga> so
[17:17] <laga> #
[17:17] <laga> 19:32:06: ISO DVD image copy to: /var/lib/mythtv/videos/BOURNE_IDENTITY_001of
[17:17] <laga> #
[17:17] <laga> 19:48:15: job thread finished copying ISO image
[17:17] <laga> #
[17:17] <laga> 19:48:17: job finished successfully: job dvd 1 1 -1 0 -1 /var/lib/mythtv/videos/BOURNE_IDENTITY
[17:17] <laga> looks like it worked?
[17:18] <laga> sorry for the messed up paste
[17:19] <MythbuntuGuest45> no problem, but i dont see anywhere that I can access it...
[17:20] <laga> in  /var/lib/mythtv/videos/ ?
[17:22] <MythbuntuGuest45> ok yes i see it there as .iso
[17:24] <MythbuntuGuest45> to view it to i need to use mythvideio or mytharchie/
[17:24] <jphillip> just browse to it first, in order to see it in mythvideo you need to run the video manager in setup
[17:25] <tgm4883_laptop> IMO, shouldn't ripping a DVD auto insert that into your mythvideo?
[17:27] <MythbuntuGuest45> ok so I actullay had to go to video manager and then i saw the metadata populated
[17:28] <MythbuntuGuest45> and then Media Library > Watch videos was correclty populated after that. Now i can see the dvd iso inthere
[17:28] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest45, yes thats how it works
[17:29] <jphillip> tgm4883_laptop no it doesn't happen
[17:35] <tgm4883_laptop> jphillip, mythvideo-bulk-updater might help alliavate that, but some people say it doesn't work but I can't reproduce the problems
[17:35] <jphillip> IIRC I've seen words on the mailing list about how to do it
[17:35] <jphillip> but I prefer to add it myself anyways
[17:36] <jphillip> A LOT of dvd's fail to rip
[17:36] <jphillip> and this way you know if something went bad
[17:36]  * sabhain finds ddrescue the only way to rip
[17:36] <jphillip> and then rip them the slow way
[17:36] <tgm4883_laptop> honestly, I don't even use it myself, rip everything on my desktop
[17:36] <jphillip> yep
[17:36] <jphillip> I do myth first, then gddrescue after that
[17:36] <tgm4883_laptop> i've meant to take a look at that
[17:37] <tgm4883_laptop> work well?
[17:37] <jphillip> very
[17:37] <jphillip> you just ddrescue /dev/dvd ISONAME.iso ISONAME.iso.log
[17:37] <sabhain> 4 of 5 that fail with mythrip tend to go through with ddrescue without errors for me
[17:37] <jphillip> then you can ^C it and resume later
[17:37] <jphillip> sabhain only ones I've ever had problems with were ones that just didn't play well with the internal player or xine to begin with
[17:38] <sabhain> i've only found a handful of dvds that can't be ripped that way .. I have more  .. you beat me to it
[17:38] <tgm4883_laptop> rhpot1991 was telling me about that
[17:38] <jphillip> tgm4883_laptop if you do gddrescue it skips over propblem spots and comes back later
[17:38] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm dl that now
[17:38] <sabhain> I've had more that just don't play than that don't rip .. I'm really ticked about "UNBREAKABLE"
[17:38] <jphillip> on some sony dvd's it will choke on those problem spots for a long time and you can just ^C it then and the iso should work fine
[17:38] <sabhain> does horrible things to my front end.
[17:38] <jphillip> I had a problem with vantage point recently
[17:38] <jphillip> had to rip that on my windows box
[17:39] <jphillip> and some old music dvd's that I just think weren't to spec
[17:39] <jphillip> but other than that everything works great
[17:39] <jphillip> sabhain I own unbreakable, I'll have to see if that gives me problems
[17:40] <jphillip> might be different releases of it or something?  cause thats an older one I'd think it would work well now
[17:40] <sabhain> jphillip .. what is this "windows" thing you reffered to?
[17:40] <jphillip> heh sabhain
[17:40] <jphillip> I meant "gaming box"
[17:40] <tgm4883_laptop> jphillip, you mean xbox 360?
[17:40] <sabhain> oh  .. I see, don't got one of those
[17:41] <jphillip> tgm4883_laptop I have one of them too
[17:41] <jphillip> but I have a box that dualboots for work/gaming still
[17:41] <sabhain> jphillip .. when you try unbreakable .. keep your finger on the MUTE button for your TV when you start it .. I've tried all the tricks .. like skipping forward immediately .. nothing works for me.
[17:41] <jphillip> sabhain what player do you use, internal?
[17:42] <jphillip> I normally fire up a dvd and hit menu and jump to the dvd menu right away
[17:42] <sabhain> jphillip .. yes .. because of the menus and all of that stuff.  I think that one of the others worked on a desktop .. but don't remember which.
[17:42]  * sabhain would watch unbreakable weekly if it were in the rotation
[17:43] <jphillip> !xine
[17:43] <Zinn> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Xine
[17:43] <jphillip> sabhain try that ^
[17:43] <jphillip> if it works you can make a fake extension for ones that work well with it compared to the internal player or something
[17:43] <jphillip> I find internal works very well for dvds anymore though
[17:44] <sabhain> internal has been good for me.
[17:44] <sabhain> I'll check that out .. so you can specify a player for an individual troublesome ISO?
[17:44] <jphillip> you can specify players for extensions
[17:45] <jphillip> so I dunno what happens if you make iso.1
[17:45] <sabhain> oic
[17:49] <tgm4883_laptop> Daviey, FYI, thats how you do it ;)
[18:56] <sabhain> If I want to rebuild / relocate a backend and maintain the setups & recordings.  Is there anything other than the database that needs to be restored?  are there any text files that need to be preserved?
[18:56] <sabhain> my recordings / videos are on separate drives.
[18:56] <sabhain> thinking of reformatting / upgrading to 64 bit.
[19:38] <sabhain> !backup
[19:38] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about backup
[21:05] <dennister> hey channel...it's been awhile since I installed mythtv, so i'm rusty...used to using this method: install ubuntu-server, then kubuntu-desktop, then one at a time configuration of the lamp stack
[21:06] <dennister> am now on hardy, and about to start a new pc installation...how/what is the avisability of using the ubuntu-mthtv method through the mini.iso?
[21:20] <sabhain> dennister, I did a mini.iso install a while back (both 7.10 and 8.04) and I had luck with just doing an install of mythbuntu-desktop .. brought it most everything I needed.
[21:29] <dennister> sabhain: thx...didn't see your reply right away...like using the mini.iso method 'cause I do a very minimal one, don't have to do tons of updates, and then add different desktops once i've rebooted into xubuntu installation
[21:30] <dennister> but i know from experience, too, that some methods are better than others :)
[21:41] <sabhain> I just did the mini CLI install and the following:  update / upgrade .. then install mythbuntu-desktop .. that's it ..
[21:41] <sabhain> now if you're using the system as a full PC, i'd guess there's more .. but my example is for a standalone frontend.
[21:44] <dennister> yeah, the user (not me for a change) is a linux noob, so she needs a full pc first, mythtv second, so it'll be both a front end and back end...like a media centre xp machine
[21:45] <dennister> that's what she's used to, xp anyway...
[21:45] <dennister> gott go, thx for the info
[21:45] <sabhain> I'd just do the standard install then ..
[21:45] <sabhain> good luck