[00:09] jdong: where are you flying to? [00:11] Detroit, from Boston [00:12] Images of John Candy in the back of a rental truck with a Polka Band [00:12] ah, too far to go by train. I love taking the train in the winter because I don't really have to worry about the weather [00:19] the troll is back as DrDerekLiveBot [00:44] hello [00:45] can i ask why i am banned? === rookeeeeeeeee is now known as poingy === poingy is now known as rookeeeeeeeee [00:50] why am i being forwarded to #ubuntu-ops? [00:51] rookeeeeeeeee: Hey there, we'll get to you asap. [00:53] i didnt know you couldnt idle [00:53] Never said you couldn't. [00:53] well, you can't, but you're not, you're waiting :) [00:54] whats the wait for? ive got a cat waiting to be walked [00:54] rookeeeeeeeee: cats come before humans, go take care of him [00:55] i dont want to idle [00:55] then come back at a later time when you can wait? [00:55] what is this all about? [00:55] is this some kind of alien abduction? [00:56] now how is asking that productive? [00:57] its not, but nothing else i've said has been either. [01:22] hello? [01:24] rookeeeeeeeee, you were asked here to discuss something you said in channel #ubuntu [01:24] what did i say [01:24] you dont recall? something about some bots? [01:25] dont recall at all [01:25] irc.geekpanties.com? does that ring a bell? [01:25] did i say dont go to geekpanties.com [01:26] what about it? what is its purpose rookeeeeeeeee ? [01:26] ? [01:26] im sorry? [01:27] are you there? [01:31] bazhang [01:32] abuse of ops [01:32] rookeeeeeeeee, yes I am here [01:32] please explain [01:32] rookeeeeeeeee, you have no recollection of mentioning this website? [01:33] yes i asked an op why i couldnt access it, the same op helped me access it. [01:34] and even asked me what the site url was [01:34] in the main chat window [01:36] rookeeeeeeeee, and what is that site about ? care to enlighten us? [01:36] ubuntu [01:37] rookeeeeeeeee, care to clarify that a bit? [01:37] ubuntu irc [01:37] any further questions? [01:51] well? [01:51] I've been waiting here for nearly an hour [01:51] over an hour [01:54] rookeeeeeeeee, hi [01:54] hi [01:55] ok whats the problem [01:55] rookeeeeeeeee: we're reviewing your banforward. i'm sorry it's taking long. [01:55] ok [01:55] rookeeeeeeeee, the operator who forwarded you here should be around shortly; is there a big hurry to get into #ubuntu ? [01:55] ie the freenode one? [01:57] i have to go to sleep soon [01:58] rookeeeeeeeee, i'm a bit worried with some of your behavior in #ubuntu [01:58] rookeeeeeeeee, so shall we resolve this tomorrow then ? [01:58] why is that LjL [01:59] well rookeeeeeeeee, you didn't always seem to understand that #ubuntu is strictly a support channel for ubuntu technical support issues [01:59] and not, for instance, a place to find buddies to help you in other contexts [01:59] i come there to find ubuntu buddies [01:59] well rookeeeeeeeee, that's not the reason that channel exists [01:59] . [02:00] it is support only rookeeeeeeeee [02:00] well im trying to find "ubuntu buddies" so they can support me [02:00] you were asking about 'who will be my ubuntu buddy?' a day or two ago [02:01] rookeeeeeeeee, i'm afraid we can't help you with that, and neither can #ubuntu [02:01] i got a resounding response [02:01] yep [02:02] to take it to #ubuntu-offtopic or somewhere else entirely [02:02] rookeeeeeeeee, also, something like "why do people use old versions of ubuntu?" is definitely not a support question [02:03] it could be a support question, I could learn something from that that could enhance my ubuntu experience. [02:03] well, that sort of extremely indirect support questions, if you would like to call them such, is best discussed in places like #ubuntu-offtopic [02:04] rookeeeeeeeee, it is not a support question. support = problems with your current install. [02:04] ok [02:04] understood [02:04] rookeeeeeeeee, so you need to get some sleep correct? [02:05] yes but are you done? [02:05] rookeeeeeeeee: well, i'd like when you have time to read our channel guidelines and other important bits of information [02:05] first [02:05] !etiquette > rookeeeeeeeee (rookeeeeeeeee, see the private message from ubottu) [02:06] ok, i will. will there be a test? [02:07] im serious [02:07] rookeeeeeeeee: i trust you'll just read them and ensure you follow them [02:07] ok [02:07] rookeeeeeeeee: so am i - no, there won't be a test [02:07] there's no limit to the number of questions i can ask? [02:08] i just want you to tell us honestly when you've read it [02:08] rookeeeeeeeee, what do you mean now? [02:08] as long as im not asking step-by-step questions that are explained in texts [02:08] rookeeeeeeeee: you mean in #ubuntu? [02:09] yes [02:09] rookeeeeeeeee: well, certainly if you ask tons of questions that are easily answered by the manuals, people will eventually stop answering you [02:09] ok [02:09] rookeeeeeeeee, the ubuntu buddy type of questions? yes, there is a limit on that : Zero [02:09] rookeeeeeeeee: but there's certainly no theoretical limit on support questions you can ask! [02:09] yes, aside from those of course [02:10] ok understood [02:10] rookeeeeeeeee: you see, the channel needs to be kept clean of noise [02:10] yes [02:10] rookeeeeeeeee: it's busy enough with actual, important support questions alone [02:10] yes [02:11] yes i understood that before [02:11] chat in #ubuntu-offtopic rookeeeeeeeee [02:11] rookeeeeeeeee: we even get people purposely disrupting the channel sometimes [02:11] ok [02:11] rookeeeeeeeee, if you have a doubt, then dont ask in #ubuntu [02:11] rookeeeeeeeee: even with automated programs that do that [02:11] i imagine they dont last long [02:12] well its moon and stars time [02:12] can i access ubuntu tomorrow [02:12] i believe so [02:13] you might need to check back here if not [02:13] when you've read the guidelines and other things, just state that, and it'll be sorted. [02:13] ok [02:14] everything ubottu says? [02:14] yes, the things in !etiquette, they're mostly just little bits of information, but the most important are !coc and !guidelines, that contain links [02:15] ok [02:15] good night [02:17] good night! [02:20] DrDerek, was that sorted out yet? [02:24] oh right DrDerek, i forgot entirely [02:25] rookeeeeeeeee could you please leave this channel now, as we have other business to deal with? [02:29] !idle | rookeeeeeeeee [02:29] rookeeeeeeeee: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [02:38] the stalker livebot? [02:46] * genii sips [02:52] bazhang - yeah, sorry, I was AFK, things are good I think now [02:53] but DrDerekLiveBot is not mine [02:53] if you see it trolling [03:10] * mneptok burns cheerily in the corner [03:53] * genii throws some Halon on mneptok [03:59] * mneptok has a Large Halon Collision [04:06] * nickrud hands mneptok a spell checker and a magnet, just to cover all the bases [04:06] * jrib slides home [04:29] Man. So many weirdos here. I love it [04:55] Man. I'm gonna need more aspirin. Some new users' issues are just so difficult to explain back to them sometimes [05:05] Goodnight [06:11] _2 called the ops in #ubuntu () [06:19] Pici: have an example of the google API and recurring events? [07:10] apologies for missing rookeeee eeeee please contact me if he shows up again and I'm not around [12:42] who is on the irc council now? [12:43] you [12:43] did you not know ? [12:43] nope [12:44] you are, [12:44] not been online in a few days, just saw LjLs email about stepping down because more people have been added [12:44] and the CC logs are somewhat lacking [12:44] nah, jussi01, Pici and boredandblogging are now the council [12:44] with PriceChild and nalioth and elkbuntu [12:46] k [12:46] thanks [13:32] ikonia, roookkeeeeeee^10 was around earlier; wanted to hear from you before letting him back in (if that is the course of action to take) [13:33] not at the moment I want to find out a bit more about the channel / server he was referencing as it's not an "ubuntu support channel" as he claimed it's a network with 2 real users and 1000+ bots which look ripe for attack [13:33] yeah saw that on the btlog [13:33] apprantly it's supposed to be a secrect channel, therefore if he knows about it he knows what it is and it is not a support chanel [13:34] there are clones of freenode channels on it with hundreds of bots in each, then a few real discussion channels with about 10 users discussing thing [13:34] whoa [13:35] it seems a good idea to talk to him about it before allowing him to be in #ubuntu as I don't know what it's all about, and according to the owner "it's a secrect channel that people shouldn't know about2 [13:35] hence the concern [13:36] well he was going on and on about finding a 'ubuntu buddy' ; that alone is enough to keep him out imo (the persistent off-topicness) [13:37] I'm not banning him - (although I take your point) I just want to know a little more about his involvment in this before giving him acess, I don't know if it's overkill, but it seems worth checking in my view [13:37] ikonia: The BT log for when he was removed for idling has the entire conversation when he was here earlier. [13:37] Pici: got parto f the one from today [13:37] part of [13:37] I got the jist of what was going on [13:38] I was however asleep, dissapointed to have missed him to find out more [13:38] * [dongs] (n=lol@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp): jews <--- seemed to have abusing/overriding the !ohmy earlier [13:39] where was that [13:40] about 8 hrs ago [13:40] main channel #ubuntu [13:40] it's been very quiet today, and some good discussion going on [13:40] positive day [13:41] I had over a page of away hilights for when I was sleeping., thats usually not good [13:41] Pici from 7:00am uk time until now, it's been good as gold [13:42] the last person to op in there was me at 21:30 last night, so that is good [14:08] bazhang: wow is it already? [14:08] oh of course it is, gutsy *moves on* [14:08] PriceChild: So is Breezy. [14:08] I think he can change to old releases repo if he wants to upgrade though PriceChild [14:09] Pici: shh. [14:09] * Pici wonders if everyone is lagged, or they just don't read what other people say and feel like repeating answers. [14:10] Pici: i wonder that often too [14:43] * genii puts on a fresh pot of coffee [14:44] milk and one sugar pls genii [14:44] genii why don't you put up a coffee company with myrtti, you'd probably save something on the mass production [14:45] * genii fixes Gary a strong coffee with organic milk and unrefined sugar [14:45] LjL: Interesting idea.... [14:45] * Gary gets caffine high and trolls #Ubuntu [14:46] o.0 [14:46] * Pici get high on ubuntu and trolls Gary [14:46] ha [14:46] it's called "trolling" now? [14:46] We actually spent part of a session at UDS talking about Ubuntu Addiction., [14:47] Pici: Thats actually something they have meetings scheduled about??? [14:47] genii: I think it was part of the round table discussion. [14:47] It was related to burnout. [14:47] Ah [14:48] Pici: it's like you had spent part of a drug controlling table engaging in drug intake, isn't it? [14:49] LjL: Half of the people weren't participating, just looking at their laptops. [14:49] Pici: quod erat demonstrandum. [14:59] sken's daily check in I see [15:03] and daily check-out shortly thereafter [15:04] @bansearch championsleague [15:04] Match: *!*@athedsl-414803.home.otenet.gr by bazhang in #ubuntu on Dec 18 2008 14:56:42 (ID: 8081) [15:04] bazhang: I've stopped banning nicks apart from ones he uses on a regular basis as we'll fill the ban list [15:05] just started removing him [15:06] ikonia, so just remove? wont he just keep coming back? ie under same name? [15:06] nah [15:06] k [15:06] once you remove him he knows he's busted and normally either goes away for a while or comes back with a new nick [15:06] right [15:06] I personally only ban the names I know he's used more than once [15:06] that way it's a nice trap for him to get forwarded here [15:07] eg: his client starts up with those nicks [15:07] (I assume [15:51] i noticed the !de factoid only lists 3 versions of ubuntu but gives 4 channels to join. Ofcourse this isn't a serious issue, but a fix would be nice. [15:51] !de [15:51] Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de [15:51] !no de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, und #edubuntu-de [15:51] !de =~ s/Kubuntu/Kubuntu, Xubuntu/ [15:51] I'll remember that LjL [15:51] I'll remember that Pici [15:52] .. [15:52] Pici, /cs info #xubuntu-de [15:52] !de [15:52] Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, und #edubuntu-de [15:52] now it's the other way aroudn ... lol [15:52] hahaha [15:52] !de =~ s/, Xubuntu// [15:52] I'll remember that Pici [15:52] !de [15:52] Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, und #edubuntu-de [15:53] Okay then. [15:53] tnx Pici, hope it wasn't to much of a problem. [15:53] Pici and LjL: marvelous! <3 [15:53] !helpersnack | Pici, LjL [15:53] Pici, LjL: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! [15:53] :P [15:53] :) [15:53] * hischild waves you all a happy morning/afternoon/evening/goodnight (make your choice) and the best of luck and all that. [16:25] Is anyone here able to reset my nickserv password? [16:25] powertool08: #freenode [16:25] Seeker`: thanks [16:26] [c0re] been unbanned? or just unintentionally ban evading [16:27] check the bt? [16:27] yep he is still banned [16:27] and ban evading now, decided his time is up and he has rejoined [16:28] <[c0re]> hi bazhang [16:28] <[c0re]> bazhang, i came here after 70 hours [16:28] <[c0re]> yes [16:28] <[c0re]> more than 70 hours later [16:28] [c0re], thats not the way it works [16:29] <[c0re]> then which way its works? [16:29] you get unbanned first, then rejoin [16:29] not ban evade when you decide it is time to rejoin [16:30] <[c0re]> its was in autojoin that time. [16:31] [c0re], you said you had disabled that [16:31] <[c0re]> yes [16:31] <[c0re]> but i joined #ubuntu by self this time.... [16:31] you rejoined this time, but you are still banned there [16:32] <[c0re]> coz you asked me to read the TOS and i did [16:34] <[c0re]> then i joined that channel [16:34] [c0re], you ban-evaded again today. [16:35] <[c0re]> lol why? [16:37] Pici, care to make a ruling here? ikonia you have a view? [16:39] [c0re]: Your ban was set on your IP address, your IP address changed. We did not lift the ban. That is why bazhang invited you here. [16:40] [c0re]: Do you understand? [17:16] [c0re], you still here? you understand how unilaterally deciding it is time to rejoin and in the process ban-evading is not the way to go about this? [17:26] [c0re], if you do not wish to discuss this, then please part the channel thanks. [17:30] hischild, hi [17:30] bazhang, hello [17:31] I have another question about factoids ... the !webmin factoid poins to the !ebox factoid, however from what i've seen so far ebox is broken on intrepid. [17:31] hischild: sadly true [17:31] hischild: but then webmin isn't in the repositories to begin with [17:32] LjjjL, that's true, but i'm still looking for a web based panel to administrate with. I thought ebox would be the solution, and for 8.04 it appears to be good. However, since i run only 8.10 on my laptop and pc, it's kind of hard getting it all to work. [17:32] Anyway, wouldn't it be better to make a note of it not being supported in intrepid so far? [17:32] hischild, i added that note to the wiki page linked by ubotu [17:33] hischild: i thought i wouldn't crowd the factoid itself [17:33] LjjjL, oh? hmm, must've missed it... [17:33] hischild: unless someone else has removed it... [17:33] !ebox [17:33] ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox [17:33] no it's there [17:33] i believe you, i must've missed it. [17:33] I just have loads of time over, now i that i've quit gaming. [17:34] hischild: i don't personally have any alternatives to suggest [17:34] hischild: but look at my notice on the wiki, the bug linked should have workarounds for the package in intrepid [17:35] I'll take a look, it's just that it caught my eye looking at it. Even more so, because i'm doing some research on what you can do with ubuntu as in terms of administration on its system [17:35] By the looks it won't be fixed in intrepid? [17:36] hischild: i don't honestly know, could end up in backports if nothing else [17:36] LjjjL, Looking a bit further, this page also shows up --> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/ebox.html [17:37] since it's not a community doc, i'm wondering how it ended up there. As it's broken, it ought not even to exist right? [17:38] * LjjjL raises hands [17:39] haha ok. So who should i contact about that? [17:40] hischild: #ubuntu-doc for the documentation i guess [17:41] hischild: as for the package itself being broken, well the bug report is there [17:41] LjjjL, yeah, i guess i can't do much there. I'll make a note to that channel. Thnx for confirming and the help. [17:43] * genii puts on more coffee [17:43] why coffee ... red bull or V works better. [17:43] sure? [17:44] no [17:44] does for me [17:44] coffee makes me wanna sleep [17:44] !worksforme | hischild [17:44] hischild: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/ [17:44] heh [17:44] hmmmm [17:44] !idle > [c0re] [17:44] [c0re], please see my private message [17:44] fine i won't recommend you drink as much as me .... that has to be VERY unhealthy for the average person [17:45] bazhang meh, just kick, he's been idle forever [17:45] LjjjL, if only [17:45] LjjjL: some of us can't [17:45] Morning all, by the way [17:45] * bazhang returns to sweeping the dojo floor [17:45] good morning Flannel [17:45] i guess i should leave this channel again ... [17:46] * hischild waves you all a happy morning/afternoon/evening/goodnight (make your choice) and the best of luck and all that. [17:46] same, see you [17:46] tnx [17:54] Back to /away for me, work to catch up on [18:01] :/ [18:06] jpds: your supybot on my server has been eating my entire cpu for the past 2 hours, can you take a look? [18:07] nomnom [18:09] lenswipe said it is fixed and now it broken again? [18:12] He's so far ignored a few things Ive said, so I stopped paying attention to him [18:13] I've had problems iwth him in the past [18:13] he sent me rude pm's when I proved him wrong about what he was doing [18:13] his problems keep morphing as well [18:14] yes, I've got a suspicioun about him in general [18:14] That could just as easily be PEBKAC or malice [18:14] he's on my list of people to watch [18:26] Was there just some hiccup on freenode? [18:27] not that I see [18:28] Me either [18:28] OK [18:28] * genii-around blames quassel then [18:30] pleia2: Woah... [18:32] that's what I said :) [18:33] Can't seem to be able to kill it from shell or IRC. [18:37] @mark [18:37] (mark [] []) -- Creates an entry in the Bantracker as if was kicked from with the comment , if is given it will be uses as the comment on the Bantracker, is only needed when send in /msg [18:37] @mark #ubuntu Formode asking about hackintosh help/support [18:37] The operation succeeded. [18:38] * pleia2 pats ubot5 [18:43] * Pici has no idea what chairman wants. [18:44] He wants to install debian on ubuntu! [18:44] Of course! [18:44] Theres a possibility that he wants to install a deb, but... that's slim to none [18:44] Thats what he said, but is that what he wants? [18:44] I think so. [18:44] "Anyone know how to get debian OS" [18:45] and then he went to their stie, but doesn't know what to download,etc. [18:49] apw, how may we help you [18:50] hmm, #ubuntu-irc may be more appropriate, was wondering who to ask about ubottu and her not being in channels she used to frequenting [18:51] apw: Which ones? [18:51] #ubuntu-kernel was the one i noticed [18:51] hm [18:54] go die ... we are Upstream <--from a PM [18:56] Is that like borg? [18:56] Or maybe it's the royal we [18:57] I've sen that IP again [18:57] before I mean [18:58] * [TVdee] (n=TVdee@91.149.44.3): TVdee [18:58] not in the BT [18:58] nope checed, but I've seen that IP [18:58] checked evne [18:58] even [18:59] ikonia: nordic mobile, most probably not static :-) [19:00] 91.149.44 certainly [19:00] 91.149.44.3 almost certainly, but your probably right [19:00] the fact that I've noticed it before suggests it may not be best indication though [19:03] true enough [19:03] leksak is the same guy ? [19:03] * [LekkSak] (n=LekkSak@ip-231-200-241-92.dialup.nmt.net): LekkSak [19:03] "upstream is now upstset" [19:03] ikonia: Upstream is now upset [19:03] yep same guy [19:05] * genii sips experimentally [19:06] ubottu: tell Mud about away [19:12] homemadejam in +1 [19:12] yay, another ubuntu blog [19:14] he's been warnged yesterday about that [19:14] i think regeya is being a fool [19:14] I'm putting a forward on him [19:14] (as in, more of a fool than the fool being mocked) [19:15] yep [19:15] to where? [19:16] here [19:17] oh [19:28] LjL: Do you have the ability to have ubottu join new channels? [19:32] ubottu: join #ubuntu-kernel [19:32] Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. [19:32] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [19:32] meh [19:34] Gah. Work. /away [19:50] Pici: are we having bot issues? [19:51] nalioth: apw asked for the bot to be in #ubuntu-kernel, but I'm not sure if it was ever there. I don't idle there. [19:53] do they just need a bot? [19:53] we try to spread the load on them, you know [19:54] if everyone asks for ubottu, it'll crash [19:54] nalioth: I do, I just didn't know which bot they had before. Anyway, the channel doesn't look like it gets much traffic. [19:56] Pici: well, they've got ubot3 now [19:57] nalioth: Okay :) [20:05] Doh [20:06] Jack_Sparrow: At least you had something technical in your clipboard [20:07] yea [20:08] Just feel stupid.. Huge cloth bandaid isnt helping either [20:10] gnnn stupid proxy [20:10] You split [20:11] You split [20:12] Pici: yes but i also subsequently disconnected, didn't get identified again, so didn't get +u, so have half of my channels unjoined [21:00] PriceChild: / nalioth can you tell me who owns #launchpad-dev? [21:00] The launchpad guys want to open it back up, but don't know who registered it, as it was years ago, nor what the password is [21:02] or any other staffers.... [21:03] bazhang_? [21:03] * Hobbsee waves to LjL [21:08] www.youtube.com [21:08] oops [21:08]