[01:36] <slangasek> right-sized Ubuntu alternates available, now
[02:19] <hggdh> slangasek, ping
[02:20] <slangasek> hggdh: hi
[02:21] <hggdh> slangasek, re. bug 303528 -- the standard operating procedure is to mark a bug 'fix committed' if it is an upstream commit
[02:21] <hggdh> or has this changed?
[02:21] <hggdh> c.f. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status
[02:21] <slangasek> that's not the SOP; the SOP is to mark a bug 'fix committed' in Ubuntu if it's *released* upstream
[02:22] <hggdh> For a bug task about an upstream project: the fix is in CVS/SVN/bzr or committed to some place  (from the wiki)
[02:22] <slangasek> if https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status, then https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status has changed and (IMHO) should be changed back since that wasn't discussed
[02:22] <slangasek> yes - a bug task that says (Ubuntu) is not a "bug task about an upstream project"
[02:24] <slangasek> sorry if this isn't clear from the documentation; if you can think of a way to make it clearer, I'm happy to adjust that page
[02:24] <hggdh> ok. No problems.
[07:43] <ara> morning all :-)
[07:48]  * slangasek waves
[07:48] <slangasek> kubuntu alternate candidates posted
[11:32] <davmor2> kubuntu has iso's again so now the script works YAY
[11:32] <davmor2> Hello Everybody by the way
[12:33]  * ara -> lunch
[14:23] <ScottK> Would whoever updates the iso qa tracker (stgraber?) please add http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20081218.5/ i386 and amd64?
[14:23] <stgraber> slangasek: ^
[14:24] <ScottK> stgraber: I think he's sleeping.
[14:24] <ScottK> Anyone else?
[14:24] <stgraber> hmm, ok.
[14:24] <stgraber> I can do it but it's usually one of the release managers who do that.
[14:24] <ScottK> Ah.
[14:24] <ScottK> Well we're a bit short on those currently.
[14:24] <ScottK> I'm sort of ad hoc filling in for Riddell for Kubuntu Alpha 2.
[14:25] <ScottK> stgraber: I'd appreciate it if you would.  I've got people doing tests and so we need a spot for the results ....
[14:25] <stgraber> ScottK: done
[14:25] <ScottK> stgraber: Thanks.
[16:50] <davmor2> Takes on Kubuntu Live
[17:14] <slangasek> stgraber: thanks for putting kubuntu on the tracker; builds were just running too long last night, I couldn't stay up to babysit them :(
[17:15] <davmor2> slangasek: Jockey isn't working on ubuntu or kubuntu
[17:15] <davmor2> with nvidia gfx cards at least
[17:16] <slangasek> davmor2: is a bug filed?
[17:17] <tgm4883_laptop> not that it is that big of a deal, but http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ says "We are currently testing candidate images for Intrepid final release."
[17:17] <davmor2> just asking around about it to find out what info is needed
[17:18] <slangasek> tgm4883_laptop: fixed
[17:18] <tgm4883_laptop> slangasek, thanks.  How are the builds going?
[17:19] <slangasek> tgm4883_laptop: what you see is what you get, except for Ubuntu Desktop, which still needs some serious kicking to make it fit on amd64
[17:19] <tgm4883_laptop> thats what USB keys are for ;)
[17:19] <slangasek> maybe, but that's not what desktop CD images are for
[17:20] <tgm4883_laptop> any news on when derivatives will be turned back on?
[17:21] <slangasek> I'm not going to try to manage the other flavors for this alpha, beyond what's already posted; daily builds will be back on as soon as the alpha is out
[17:21] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[17:35] <davmor2> slangasek: manual partitioning failed on kubuntu live I'll write the bug up in a second but I've passed the link to the debug log to evand
[17:36] <slangasek> hmm, there was an earlier mention about manual partitioning failing, perhaps ubiquity didn't get reuploaded yet
[17:37] <slangasek> yes, comment from evand on #ubuntu-release 25h ago
[17:38] <davmor2> slangasek: ubiquity debug is here http://www.davmor2.co.uk/debug if it helps at all it gives versions etc at least
[17:39] <slangasek> evand's the one who'll need to look at that, I'm juggling too many other knives :)
[17:40] <davmor2> slangasek: evand is looking into it
[18:07] <lool> I wanted to report by Ubuntu UMPC testing, but there's no entry on the iso tracker
[18:23] <slangasek> lool: added
[18:59] <lool> thank
[18:59] <lool> s
[20:20] <davmor2> lool: any screenshots of umpc?
[20:36] <slangasek> new ubuntu desktop posted, properly sized now
[20:38] <davmor2> slangasek: looks like oem is screwed on kubuntu too
[20:46] <slangasek> ok; I don't imagine we'll stop the milestone for that at this point
[20:46] <slangasek> is there a bug open?
[20:48] <davmor2> slangasek: it's similar to the intrepid ones but they all got fix released once they were resolved so I'm opening a new one currently
[20:48] <slangasek> yes, thanks; superficial similarity is not a good indicator of much
[20:49] <slangasek> lool: so you consider the UMPC test a failure?  Should an alpha-2 of this be pushed in such a state?
[20:55] <davmor2> slangasek: bug 309482
[20:55] <slangasek> cheers
[21:02] <slangasek> hmm, no test results at all yet for Ubuntu alternate?
[21:02] <davmor2> moving onto ubuntu now will start on alt while new live download
[21:08] <slangasek> ok, cool
[21:09] <davmor2> I don't know how much I'll get through. So I'll start alternating the tests to get the most coverage. ie 32bit oem 64bit auto-resize etc
[21:25] <davmor2> slangasek: are the server team not running the server tests like they normally do?
[21:30] <slangasek> they don't appear to be, at present
[21:32] <slangasek> have dropped a query in #u-server
[21:57] <davmor2> slangasek: bluetooth is still playing up on usb dongle if I have time tomorrow I'll try it on my laptop
[22:05] <davmor2> slangasek: on a plus side most of the apps in kubuntu and ubuntu seem to be working okay :)
[22:06] <slangasek> good :)
[22:16] <davmor2> jockey and bluetooth seem to be the only major hiccups
[22:33] <charlie-tca> How do I get a menu on the desktop cd? I get a tan background with cyan squares in the upper left.
[22:33] <charlie-tca> I have to hit the power button to shutdown.
[22:33] <davmor2> charlie-tca: on what sorry?
[22:34] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu desktop cd
[22:34] <charlie-tca> both amd64 and i386
[22:34] <charlie-tca> It's like ubiquity is there but nothing else, maybe?
[22:35] <davmor2> do you not just right click and select add whatever
[22:35] <charlie-tca> Nothing comes up that I can select on right click.
[22:35] <davmor2> charlie-tca: sounds like it still needs fixing to me
[22:36] <charlie-tca> Should I do a bug report or just wait?
[22:36] <davmor2> charlie-tca: have you tried and alt cd instead
[22:36] <charlie-tca> Yeah, that works okay
[22:36] <charlie-tca> I'm running the encrypted disk tests now
[22:37] <davmor2> charlie-tca: I'd get onto cody about it if you can take a photo of the screen and throw it on a server/album somewhere that might be useful too
[22:37] <charlie-tca> I told cody already.
[22:38] <charlie-tca> I don't have a camera.
[22:39] <davmor2> charlie-tca: :(
[22:39] <charlie-tca> Am I the _only_ one seeing it!
[22:40] <charlie-tca> I got the same screens on 4 systems....
[22:40] <davmor2> No one else is test xubuntu at the moment
[22:40] <charlie-tca> oh, well
[22:41] <davmor2> charlie-tca: I might get chance tomorrow to have a look
[22:41] <charlie-tca> great. Let me know what happens, okay.
[22:44] <davmor2> slangasek: I'm not going to get chance to test ubuntu live tonight sorry
[22:44] <slangasek> understood
[22:45] <slangasek> unfortunately I can only test in VMware here, so I don't think I'll be able to test either, given that vmmouse is broken...
[22:48] <davmor2> I may have some free time tomorrow to pick up some more
[23:12] <davmor2> slangasek: I'm getting too tired here :( I'm doing encrypted lvm and calling it a night I think.
[23:12] <slangasek> ok
[23:13] <slangasek> hmm, have you been doing full-spectrum tests of the images?  That's not at all required for early alphas... :)
[23:13] <davmor2> I did on Kubuntu
[23:14] <davmor2> I have stggered on Ubuntu to speed up the process
[23:15] <slangasek> ok, cool
[23:15] <davmor2> plus I've only really had this evening rather than the entire day like I normally would :)
[23:15] <slangasek> fwiw, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases shows pretty uniform (& good) coverage, with exception of the Windows-y and server-y stuff
[23:17] <davmor2> Windows-y can't really be covered until xivulon finishes the python rewrite server-y stuff I never test anyway
[23:23] <davmor2> slangasek: that's it encrypted lvm look good and I'm off to bed
[23:23] <slangasek> ok, 'night :)