[00:00] <FFighter> how to restart the webcam driver?
[00:00] <keres> onetinsoldier: do you have experience in fstab?
[00:00] <keres> or ActionParsnip?
[00:00] <FFighter> service whatver?
[00:00] <Zarcom> anyway I have a few questions
[00:00] <keres> UUID=B2284CC7284C8BF3 /media/windows/ ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
[00:00] <keres> does that look right?
[00:00] <Saga_> !ask | Zarcom
[00:00] <onetinsoldier> keres: i'm a little rusty with it, but yes
[00:00] <schone> is there an easy way to open a file from with a .JAR file, edit it and save it??
[00:00] <keres> onetinsoldier: UUID=B2284CC7284C8BF3 /media/windows/ ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
[00:00] <EADG> djiezes: When I find out I'll pass it along to ya. Cheers :)
[00:00] <Zarcom> how can I run something like 2df? the iste is http://www.2dfighter.com, the file extension is .application
 been through the site and it does not mention which version. In addition, the GPL is required to be included with the distro and I dont see it anywhere on my Live CD
[00:00] <tsrk> How can I repeat the command "beep" 10 times at 1 second intervals?
[00:00] <keres> onetinsoldier: will that mount without format?
[00:00] <virgo1143> speaking of webcams what are the best for ubuntu?
[00:01] <mrfelton> what is SSDP? That is one of the things firestarter has blocked
[00:01] <mrfelton> going out on port 1900
[00:01] <FFighter> any hints?
[00:01] <FFighter> my webcam seems locked
[00:01] <onetinsoldier> keres: you mean that partition is not formatted?
[00:01] <FFighter> its on and won't film anything
[00:01] <FFighter> but*
[00:01] <tanath> ActionParsnip: why would startx run x & exit without error.. and not actually run the x server?
[00:01] <keres> onetinsoldier: it is my partition i use to store files between linux formats
[00:02] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok
[00:02] <Zarcom> anywayz
[00:02] <keres> onetinsoldier: wil that work?
[00:02] <Zarcom> take i teasy guys
[00:02] <onetinsoldier> keres: you mean that partition is not formatted?
[00:02] <keres> onetinsoldier: formatted? as in empty? no, it's near full of files.
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> tanath: when you run statx it launches the x server
[00:02] <santi> hi
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> tanath: sounds like a permission error for you home dir
[00:03] <nurglak> 1337 users ... maybe ill come later ...
[00:03] <onetinsoldier> keres: what does this mean.. will that mount.. without format?  without format????
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> tanath: you could try: sudo chown -R <your username> /home/<your username> (replaceing <your username appropriately)
[00:03] <Jack_Sparrow> nurglak It wont get any better, just ask your question
[00:03] <fakereality> nurglak: cya
[00:04] <keres> onetinsoldier: i don't want any files on there to be deleted. will the syntax 'UUID=B2284CC7284C8BF3 /media/windows/ ntfs-3g defaults 0 0' mount it?
[00:04] <Verael`> hello
[00:04] <nurglak> heh my ubuntu 8.10 got some problems with updating ... dpgk wont work so is apt-get and all graphic managers ...
[00:04] <KOFwhiz> oops wrong username
[00:04] <Zarcom> how do I remove this program?
[00:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptfix > nurglak
[00:04] <onetinsoldier> keres: yes, i believe it should
[00:05] <FFighter> folks, how do I reset the webcam?
[00:05] <FFighter> its an HP webcam
[00:05] <FFighter> from a HP pavillion
[00:05] <DatDude> It appears that Ubuntu is not following GNU GPL guidelines due to the fact that they do not mention nor offer the same rights they wer given with the kernel source
[00:05] <tanath> ActionParsnip: this is my first reboot in two weeks. could have been an update that caused this
[00:05] <FFighter> it seems to be busy and I can't use it :(
[00:05] <nurglak> that was fast ...
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> nurglak: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:05] <keres> onetinsoldier: it says i am not privelaged to mount Storage disk
[00:06] <FFighter> anyone?
[00:06] <nurglak> brb
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> nurglak: im a cli kid ;)
[00:06] <tsrk> How can I repeat the command "beep" 10 times at 1 second intervals?
[00:06] <nurglak> ill try one of three ways ...
[00:06] <mrwes> Anyone running Vista in a Virutalbox?
[00:06] <onetinsoldier> keres: are you trying as root user? if not. you will need to change the permissions in fstab to change who is allowed to mount it
[00:06] <tanath> ActionParsnip: chowning didn't do the trick
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> tanath: hmm
[00:06] <keres> onetinsoldier: how do you set permissions in fstab?
[00:06] <DatDude> The GNU General Public License is not available to the recipient on the ISO that is being distributed
[00:07] <Jack_Sparrow> mrwes vbox has a channel
[00:07] <Jimi__Hendrix> can anyone tell me if they know how to fix this bug?
[00:07] <Jimi__Hendrix> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/308402
[00:07] <mrwes> Jack_Sparrow: k
[00:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Jimi__Hendrix Please give a description of the bug in question
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> tanath: if you can get the errors you see when it fails we can help further
[00:08] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[00:08] <incadudeF> hello everyone. Iwas wondering how to patch my drivers. I have a Toshiba A135-S4666. Thanks
[00:08] <NimalaysiaHere> hi, i used C and C++, but i just don't understand the JAVA, how can i install JEE?
[00:08] <Jimi__Hendrix> i go to system -> admin. -> hardware
[00:08] <tanath> ActionParsnip: that's the thing, the only error i see is the authentication failed box that (repeatedly) pops up at login screen
[00:08] <onetinsoldier> keres: this is where i am rusty... it's called a umask. it's something like...  defaults,umask=0022
[00:08] <chills> hey guys i installed ubuntu i also want kde for it
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> tanath: sudo passwd <your user name>
[00:08] <Jimi__Hendrix> hit activate enter password...see something saying searching for drivers...it stops...
[00:08] <Jimi__Hendrix> chills theres kubuntu
[00:08] <Scunizi> chills: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:09] <Jimi__Hendrix> just do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> chills: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:09] <Jack_Sparrow> onetinsoldier I understood umask was the reverse of permissions...
[00:09] <keres> onetinsoldier: umask=0022 doesn't work
[00:09] <chills> Scunizi, i did that but i think something was wrong with the installation of it
[00:09] <Jimi__Hendrix> but anyway
[00:09] <tanath> ActionParsnip: well, i know my password works. i was able to log in to get on irssi :P
[00:09] <incadudeF> how do i known if i need to patch any drivers.
[00:09] <chills> how do i remove it .. completly and reinstall it
[00:09] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: yeah.. it's reverse
[00:09] <templaedhel> so I have a laptop, but when I close the lid it doesn't work. however "xset dpms force off" ran in the terminal works fine. so I'm trying to figure out how to modify lid.sh to work with that. any ideas????????
[00:09] <Jimi__Hendrix> so after i enter my password i get "searching for drivers..."
[00:09] <NimalaysiaHere> hi, i used C and C++, but i just don't understand the JAVA, how can i install JEE?
[00:09] <Jimi__Hendrix> it stops and fglrx is still not activated
[00:09] <tanath> ActionParsnip: and did sudo chown...
[00:10] <chills> i want the remove the package completly and reinstall it
[00:10] <Jack_Sparrow> onetinsoldier take the pernission and subtract from 777 for umask or something like that.. not my area ither
[00:10] <chills> if i use apt-get it only removes like 4mb
[00:10] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: i am quite rusty on it
[00:10] <Scunizi> chills: probably not.. log out and you'll notice on the login screen that there is a menu with "session" as an option.. click session and change to kde.. enter user name and pass and you'll be in kubuntu
[00:10] <Jimi__Hendrix> NimalaysiaHere, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=713622
[00:10] <keres> Jack_Sparrow: can i chown it, will taht work or something?
[00:10] <onetinsoldier> keres: try  umask=022
[00:10] <Jimi__Hendrix> anyone know how to fix my problem
[00:10] <tanath> ActionParsnip: changed pass. no effect
[00:10] <keres> onetinsoldier: same
[00:10] <Jack_Sparrow> onetinsoldier 022 = 755
[00:10] <DatDude> This is amazing. You guys are sitting around answering technical support questions on Ubuntu, but cannot answer the question regarding it's lagality
[00:11] <chills> Scunizi, yea i tried but after a few seconds it crashed
[00:11] <Scunizi> DatDude: http://www.ubuntu.com/legal
[00:11] <Jack_Sparrow> DatDude Because this is Support.. not discussion
[00:11] <onetinsoldier> keres: i would need to google it.. doing so now
[00:11] <tanath> DatDude: also, tech support & legal are two different skill/knowledge sets
[00:11] <Scunizi> chills: you don't have to uninstall to reinstall
[00:12] <chills> Scunizi, yea tried that crashes
[00:12] <Scunizi> chills: must not like you :)
[00:12] <chills> lol
[00:12] <chills> k
[00:12] <DatDude> In order for any open source software to be distributed under GNU GPL, it must contain a copy of the license. My question is, where is my copy of the license
[00:12] <onetinsoldier> keres: try  umask=0222
[00:13] <templaedhel> anyone^
[00:13] <tanath> argh, this is frustrating. note to self NEVER REBOOT. >.<
[00:13] <keres> onetinsoldier: same result :(
[00:13] <michael> hi
[00:13] <tanath> :P
[00:13] <onetinsoldier> keres: hmmm. ok. i'll do more searching
[00:13] <keres> onetinsoldier: full syntax: 'UUID=B2284CC7284C8BF3 /media/windows/ ntfs-3g defaults,umask=0222 0 0'
[00:13] <djiezes> DatDude: maybe "man gpl" ?
[00:14] <Spherous> Okay, thats not working.  I can't figure out how to throw unpartitioned space on this drive so I can dual boot with windows
[00:14] <incadudeF> i can get my ath0 interface to monitor mode can someone help. Please
[00:14] <Spherous> gparted grays everything out... and when I try to do it with the live CD, I can't figure out which option is what I need
[00:14] <onetinsoldier> keres: looks correct to me, but, ineed to read some more
[00:14] <israelito_solito> I cant open the driver for my card, got this error: Could not open the file /home/jv/Desktop/ati-dri…aller-8-12-x86.x86_64.run using the Western (ISO-8859-15) character coding.
[00:15] <jtaji> DatDude: /usr/share/doc/<packagename>/copyright
[00:15] <Jack_Sparrow> speaker219 That is a long road to travel doing it that way and would require you edit, grub, fstab, resize and move your partition install windows and reinstall grub in mbr
[00:15] <keres> !fstab
[00:16] <mrfelton> I'm not running any p2p software, yet connections are originating from my machine and going out on port UDP 8094 - which is apparently used by some bittorrent and other p2p clients.. how can this be?!
[00:16] <Jack_Sparrow> speaker219 Easier to backup your /home and install windows or see clone below
[00:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone
[00:16] <tanath> ActionParsnip: xorg log has no errors. xsession log says something about no profile. other than that, i'm not finding much
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> tanath: type the exact error into a websearch engine, see what it turns up
[00:16] <Jack_Sparrow> mrfelton Id be looking for a rootkit
[00:16] <israelito_solito> how can I know if Im trying to install a binary file?
[00:17] <mrfelton> Jack_Sparrow, how?
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> !fixapt
[00:17] <tanath> ActionParsnip: dmesg has no errors either
[00:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !rootkit
[00:17] <mrfelton> this doesn't sound good
[00:17] <jrib> israelito_solito: umm, can you give more context as to what you are trying to do?
[00:17] <Spherous> So, is anyone willing to help me partition this drive so I can dual boot windows on it? Starting over with windows first is not an option.
[00:17] <Aethelred> I'm running 8.10-amd64. I'm looking for GSView, and can't find the package. Can someone tell me where it is, or what has replaced it?
[00:17] <tanath> ActionParsnip: type 'authentication failed' into google? that won't help
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> tanath: dmesg is kernel errors, yours is an x error, kernel is booting ok
[00:17] <keres> onetinsoldier: 222?
[00:17] <keres> wait nm
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> tanath: is there anything more except that?
[00:18] <israelito_solito> jrib: the sound of my laptop died out yesterday
[00:18] <Jack_Sparrow> mrfelton Please try google.. Sorry but not to many people will kow what you are looking for
[00:18] <tanath> ActionParsnip: could be vid card related though. that shows up in dmesg at times
[00:18] <israelito_solito> im trying to install the driver for my multimedia card
[00:18] <israelito_solito> but I cant
[00:18] <mrfelton> Jack_Sparrow, sure, thanks for the pointer
[00:18] <israelito_solito> im new to ubuntu (evidently)
[00:18] <jrib> israelito_solito: so the sound worked at first after installing ubuntu?
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> tanath: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3605925&postcount=4
[00:18] <keres> onetinsoldier: i'll try reboot. i got to go anyway
[00:18] <tanath> ActionParsnip: x comes up. i'm at login scree. a borderless box pops up that says 'Authentication failed' and if i click OK, it immediately pops back up
[00:18] <israelito_solito> sure
[00:18] <onetinsoldier> keres ok
[00:18] <israelito_solito> then if faded out
[00:19] <shear> hey. I have an external hard drive, that was working fine under ubuntu, but I just plugged it in and it's reading as read-only
[00:19] <Spherous> Is anyone willing to help me partition this drive so I can dual boot windows on it? Starting over with windows first is not an option.
[00:19] <tanath> ActionParsnip: i can hold ESC and go through a zillion of 'em, but they just keep coming
[00:19] <shear> the permissions tab says that ubuntu can't detect the permissions
[00:19] <onetinsoldier> keres: the problem may be with your mount point permissions
[00:19] <tanath> ActionParsnip: and i can't access anything but the OK button
[00:20] <israelito_solito> now its almost completely mute!
[00:20] <jrble819> Anyone here any good with rsync for backing up files over a LAN?
[00:21] <Jack_Sparrow> mrfelton  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/security
[00:21] <Until_It_Sleeps> How do I modify my partitions in Ubuntu 8.10
[00:21] <jrib> !who | israelito_solito
[00:21] <Alpert> I really screwed something up, and I need help installing my wireless internet to Ubuntu, ,and then being able to connect to it.
[00:21] <Pretto> what sofwatware can i use in ubuntu server to make a streaming server?
[00:21] <mrfelton> Jack_Sparrow, thanks
[00:21] <Alpert> Please query me if you can help
[00:21] <eseven73> jrble819: have you tried Grsync? its a GUI for rsync.
[00:21] <tanath> ActionParsnip: i think you're on the right track, but that didn't do the trick
[00:21] <Alpert> I've tried a lot, but to know evail. I've been trying for 3 hours now :P
[00:22] <jrib> israelito_solito: so you can still hear sound, it is just really low?
[00:22] <keres> onetinsoldier: what should i set mount point to?
[00:22] <jrble819> eseven73, no I have not thanks for the tip.  The reason I am asking is because when I backup my music files using any file copy the files become corrupt when transferring them all at once... if I transfer just one file or folder, the files are fine
[00:22] <israelito_solito> jrib: i was watching a video on google with no problem, then left it downloading
[00:23] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok, try this in fstab in    noauto,ro,umask=0222
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> tanath: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/27686
[00:23] <israelito_solito> jrib: then it just faded out some, and after rebooting it-s almost mute
[00:23] <jrib> israelito_solito: so you can still hear sound, it is just really low?
[00:23] <Until_It_Sleeps> Um, how do I modify my partitions in Ubuntu 8.10?
[00:23] <eseven73> jrble819: yeah im kinda a noob at rsync so i couldnt be of much more help than that
[00:23] <onetinsoldier> keres: then we will set the permissions for the mount point
[00:23] <israelito_solito> jrib: yes, its very very low
[00:23] <voodoo> siemka wszystkim:)
[00:23] <voodoo> hi all:)
[00:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Until_It_Sleeps gparted, unless you installed it in windows or something like that
[00:24] <Until_It_Sleeps> where is that?
[00:24] <jrib> israelito_solito: double click on the speaker icon and check Master and PCM levels
[00:24] <jrble819> eseven73: ok, thanks... I am going to give grsync a try
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !gparted
[00:24] <eseven73> jrble819: Unison is nice too, if you search synaptic for unison, you'll see it has a gui too Unison-GTK or something
[00:24] <voodoo> mówi tu ktos po polsku??
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Until_It_Sleeps this is a real install right, not some VM or wubi thingy
[00:24] <Until_It_Sleeps> no, it's real
[00:24] <jrib> !pl | voodoo
[00:25] <onetinsoldier> keres: so to do that...  cd /media  chmod go+rx windows
[00:25] <jrble819> eseven73: ok, I will look into that as well
[00:25] <Until_It_Sleeps> !console
[00:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Until_It_Sleeps Had to ask
[00:25] <onetinsoldier> keres: sorry.. i had that wrong
[00:25] <onetinsoldier> keres: so to do that...  cd /media  chmod go+wx windows
[00:25] <israelito_solito> jrib: ha ha, i failed to see the icon!
[00:25] <voodoo> ktos z was wie jak podłaczyc sie pod polski serwer??
[00:25] <israelito_solito> jrib: muchas gracias!
[00:26] <Saga_> Is it good idea to encrypt-lvm your computer?  It's not laptop after all.
[00:26] <jrib> israelito_solito: de nada
[00:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Until_It_Sleeps be aware that you will probably mess up the uuid, and need to edit fstab to reflect the change as well as possibly grub menu etc
[00:26] <keres`away> brb
[00:26] <voodoo> #ubuntu-pl
[00:26] <jrib> !away > keres`away
[00:26] <mm> Hi... are any of you familiar with c++ under Kdevelop?
[00:26] <voodoo> muwi tu ktos po polsku?
[00:26] <tanath> ActionParsnip: could not perform configuration on libpam0g
[00:27] <tanath> ActionParsnip: o.O
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> !pl | voodoo
[00:27] <jrib> voodoo: /join #ubuntu-pl
[00:28] <EADG> Anybody know what option to use with "ls" to drop the date & time?
[00:28] <jrib> EADG: "drop" it?
[00:28] <Jack_Sparrow> EADG Did you man ls     like was suggested earlier
[00:29] <EADG> Jack_Sparrow: will look at that, hold a sec.
[00:29] <jrib> mm: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to help you
[00:30] <tanath> ActionParsnip: tried to purge & it offered to downgrade. did that, but still can't reinstall it
[00:30] <tanath> ActionParsnip: got the others reinstalled
[00:30] <mm> anybody here familiar with kdevelop
[00:30] <mm> ?
[00:30] <randy3434> i can't connect to the internet in ubuntu. strangely though, i can connect to the internet in VMware from within ubuntu. whaaa?
[00:30] <tanath> ActionParsnip: wait, worked this time
[00:30] <godgo> Help please.. who have GeForce 9500m GS?
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> tanath: yeah?
[00:30] <tanath> ActionParsnip: x still doesn't work though :(
[00:30] <jrib> mm: just ask your question
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> godgo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/nvidia-glx-177
[00:31] <tanath> ActionParsnip: it looks like it's starting, the screen goes black, then it drops back to vt. no errors
[00:31] <shear> Hi everyone. I'm having problems with an external hard drive suddenly showing up as read-only. Here's the result of fsck: http://pastebin.com/m407dcfae
[00:31] <tanath> ActionParsnip: brb, trying another reboot
[00:31] <mm> When I try to compile a basic C++ prgrm in Kdevelop, I get this error:
[00:31] <mm> ../libtool: line 2412: mkdir /.libs: No such file or directory
[00:31] <godgo> ActionParsnip: 2d slow =( (scrolling in firefox)... i try 180.16 to...((
[00:31] <mm> mkdir: cannot create directory `/.libs': Permission denied
[00:31] <mm> make[2]: *** [test] Error 1
[00:31] <mm> make[2]: Target `all' not remade because of errors.
[00:31] <mm> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
[00:31] <mm> make: *** [all] Error 2
[00:31] <mm> *** Exited with status: 2 ***
[00:31] <mm> anybody know what is the problem?>
[00:32] <EADG> Jack_Spar Yep, looked at man a couple times. I need file size, owner, group, but not date/time stamp.
[00:32] <jrib> FloodBot1: do your job
[00:32] <Ward1983> totem wont launch from 8.10 livecd
[00:32] <jrib> !paste | mm
[00:32] <Ward1983> input/output error
[00:32] <Jack_Sparrow> mm Please read the topic about paste in channel.. IE: dont do it
[00:32] <Ward1983> also pidgin crashes
[00:32] <Cpudan80> Does anyone know where the wpa_supplicant conf file is in hardy?
[00:32] <Ward1983> ok firefox crashes too
[00:32] <Ward1983> WTF
[00:32] <Cpudan80> the one that is automatically written by the net manager thing
[00:33] <EADG> jrib: "drop it" meaning not display the date & time when I do ls -lh.
[00:33] <panfist> i have been trying to install drivers for my tv card all day and i was wondering if there was a way i could wipe out everything i tried and start over
[00:33] <godgo> vHelp please.. who have GeForce 9500m GS? (Slow scrolling in FireFox...) =(((
[00:34] <mm> Please help:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/87417/
[00:34] <EADG> hehe fustrating... like the time I asked about scaling mplayer videos in the cli.
[00:35] <Jack_Sparrow> mm Please form a complete question and provide it with the link to any pertinant information.
[00:35] <tanath> ActionParsnip, i'm not sure which of your suggestions did it, but all is well now. thanks
[00:35] <mm> When I try to compile a basic C++ program in Kdevelop (under Ubuntu). I get a error msg: Link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/87417/
[00:36] <tanath> ActionParsnip, just needed another reboot after
[00:36] <mm> I was told its not a C++ problem but ubuntu
[00:36] <randy3434> i have posted my question like 4 times over the last several hours and nary a response :( anyone willing to help?
[00:36] <Jack_Sparrow> mm Did you install build-essentials and kernel headers etc?
[00:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm > mm
[00:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !compile > mm
[00:37] <israelito_solito> jrib: are you still there?
[00:38] <jrib> israelito_solito: yes
[00:38] <hitman1985> hi all, anyone got 8.10 ii runing on a hp dv1410us (dv1000) laptop series and got the wifi to work ?
[00:39] <[Mabus-Wrk]> Anyone know of an easy install web server for Ubunto?
[00:39] <israelito_solito> jrib: ok. the reason I want to install the driver for my video card is because about 10 to 20 minutes of watching any video, it gets slow, like when there-s not enought ram memory left or something like that
[00:39] <jrib> israelito_solito: what card?
[00:39] <Scunizi> [Mabus-Wrk]: LAMP..
[00:40] <eseven73> [Mabus-Wrk]: search google for 'LAMP + Ubuntu 8.04/8.10'
[00:40] <[Mabus-Wrk]> thanks
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> !lamp | [Mabus-Wrk]
[00:40] <israelito_solito> jrib: ATI Radeon Xpress 200
[00:40] <Iskundar> hi guys, i have an Audigy card thats not workin too well, I'm only getting superlow volume sound, with super high volume static whenever the OS makes a sound or i play a song, can anyone help me?
[00:41] <Scunizi> [Mabus-Wrk]: go to System>Admin>Synaptic Pkg Mgr>Edit>Mark Packages by Task>  .. choose LAMP
[00:41] <jrib> !ati | Iskundar
[00:41] <jrib> erm
[00:41] <jrib> !ati | israelito_solito
[00:41] <Iskundar> its a sound card
[00:41] <jshriver> Anyone here use a serial homebrew lirc device?
[00:42] <jrib> Iskundar: yeah, wrong nick sorry
[00:42] <jshriver> for the life of me I can't get lirc to work
[00:42] <eseven73> Scunizi: O.o i didnt know you could install lamp like that, good to know :)
[00:42] <voodoo> jka sie z polskim serwrem połaczyc??
[00:42] <Scunizi> randy3434: you've got an unusual problem going there. do you have more than one nic in the machine?
[00:42] <jrib> voodoo: english only here.  Polish in #ubuntu-pl.  /join #ubuntu-pl
[00:42] <jshriver> how can you clone a /dev item?
[00:42] <jshriver> is it safe to just ln it?
[00:43] <Scunizi> eseven73: there's other goodies in there too :)
[00:43] <voodoo> i have only commend by conected polish serwer:)
[00:43] <israelito_solito> ubottu, jrib. Thanks!
[00:43] <voodoo>  /join #ubuntu-pl
[00:43] <jrib> voodoo: no space
[00:43] <CRASH69> I am having this message whe I want to install something: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[00:43] <jrib> CRASH69: run: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[00:43] <Scunizi> CRASH69: do what it says
[00:43] <eseven73> Scunizi: yea i knew you could install LAMP with tasksel just didnt know bout synaptic cool beans
[00:43] <godsyn> id there s esy to break an application other than ctrl-c (cli script froze)
[00:44] <jrib> godsyn: what's wrong with ctrl-c?
[00:44] <Scunizi> godsyn: ctrl+x maybe.. "q" maybe.. ctrl_+q
[00:44] <godsyn> wow, just woke, sorry for the poor typing. "Is there a means to break an application other than ctrl-c?"
[00:44] <spycer> anyone happen to know where i might find all the default ubuntu wallpapers?
[00:44] <godsyn> neither work.
[00:45] <jrib> godsyn: ctrl-\
[00:45] <Iskundar> hi guys, i have an Audigy card thats not workin too well, I'm only getting superlow volume sound, with super high volume static whenever the OS makes a sound or i play a song, can anyone help me?
[00:45] <Scunizi> spycer: /usr/share
[00:45] <usser> godsyn, ctrl+d
[00:45] <usser> godsyn, ctrl+z and then killall -9 appname
[00:46] <freshcat> hello, is there an argument i can use to boot without software raid on the ubuntu 8.04 desktop intall disc??
[00:46] <EADG> Anybody know what option to use with "ls" to drop the date & time?
[00:46] <linuxman410> godsyn ctrl +q  will do it too
[00:46] <freshcat> like nodmraid on fedora
[00:46] <godsyn> ctrl-\ will terminate my screen session. usser : ctrl-z worked.
[00:46] <usser> godsyn, ctrl+z only puts into background, you have to kill it with killall
[00:46] <godsyn> usser: I know. Thanks.
[00:46] <onetinsoldier> is root the only user that can ever use the mount command?
[00:47] <gasull> Hi.  I just created a noexec partition for
[00:47] <israelito_solito> ubottu: where-s the restricted-manager?
[00:47] <godsyn> I could kill the screen instance via ctrl-k, but didn't want to (in case I get stuck w/out screen)
[00:47] <eseven73> onetinsoldier: i think that can be changed in sudo visudo
[00:47] <onetinsoldier> eseven73: ok, thanks
[00:47] <Iskundar> Guys i seem to have botche my triple boot, I need to learn how to use the grub menu, can someone give me a quick primer? im using linux for the first itme today
[00:47] <eseven73> np
[00:47] <SlimeyPete> onetinsoldier: unless the right params are configured in /etc/fstab
[00:48] <firefly2442> anybody ever experience an error 15 when grub tries to load?
[00:48] <godsyn> but I did learn that ctrl-\ will kill screen entirely... that is good to know.
[00:48] <eseven73> screen is win
[00:48] <Scunizi> !grub | Iskundar
[00:48] <eseven73> for the win i mean
[00:49] <israelito_solito> jrib: where's the restricted-manager?
[00:49] <godsyn> eseven73: yes, it is.
[00:49] <jrib> israelito_solito: system -> administration -> hardware
[00:49] <onetinsoldier> SlimeyPete: i think i put the proper umask in fstab..  umask=0222
[00:50] <onetinsoldier> SlimeyPete: do i need to make it even more permissive than that?
[00:50] <spycer> Heh. Shoulda specified. I'm at work on a windows system. I wanted to find them online somewhere.
[00:50] <chadeldridge> Can someone help me with a network-manager issue.  I can only get 100mb to autodetect on my gigbit network usinig network-manager unless i do a full reboot then it detects at 1000mb ...
[00:50] <phreck> anyone have experience with webcams?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> onetinsoldier: id use 1000 instead, allows all users to write
[00:50] <panfist> i have been trying to install drivers for my tv card all day and i was wondering if there was a way i could wipe out everything i tried and start over
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> chadeldridge: what does ifconfig say its running at?
[00:50] <onetinsoldier> ActionParsnip: ok, thank u
[00:51] <Scunizi> firefly2442: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297261
[00:51] <chadeldridge> ActionParsnip,  the tx line says 1000 but the speed is only 100 also network-manager says 100.  If i reboot and send the same set of files its massively faster
[00:52] <J3nal> hi...i click pidgin from application menu and the error show "segmentation fault"..What does that mean?
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> chadeldridge: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[00:52] <fakereality> Hi, can any1 tell me how to make "floating" panels?
[00:52] <firefly2442> Scunizi: thanks, do you know by chance if it's safe to re-install grub if I have software RAID w/multiple hard drives?
[00:53] <chadeldridge> ActionParsnip, still says 100 in network-manager, 1000 in ifconfig and speed is still slow (80mb ish)
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> J3nal: try: killall pidgin; mv ~/.purple ~/.purple_old; pidgin & 2>/dev/null
[00:53] <Scunizi> firefly2442: sorry.. don't know much about raid.. maybe someone else here will ..
[00:53] <mrfelton> well, no rootkets at least
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> chadeldridge: you could try specifying speed in /etc/network/interfaces file and set it up there
[00:54] <J3nal> ActionPasnip: no pidgin when i use ps -A
[00:54] <leequarella> how do I uninstall an app that I installed from source or from a binary?
[00:54] <mrfelton> but something is screwey... my upstream is faster than my downstream!!!
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> J3nal: thats why i used ; and not && ;)
[00:54] <fakereality> What i mean is to take a panel off the edges of the monitor.. how can I do that?
[00:54] <demonspork> chadeldridge, that is all you might be able to get out of a 100mb connection, just because it is rated at something doesn't mean that is going to be actual throughput
[00:54] <Scunizi> leequarella: sudo sh ./<binary package name> --uninstall
[00:54] <Iskundar> hi guys, i have an Audigy card thats not workin too well, I'm only getting superlow volume sound, with super high volume static whenever the OS makes a sound or i play a song, can anyone help me?
[00:54] <_woli_> can i change a file's icon with the terminal?
[00:54] <chadeldridge> ActionParsnip, yeah let me just not use network-manager for the eth0 and see if that works, i had an issue with not getting gateway before
[00:55] <mrfelton> latest speed test shows 106Kbps up / 420 kbs down
[00:55] <Scunizi> leequarella: you should be in the same folder/directory as the binary insaller
[00:55] <mrfelton> that is f##ked up
[00:55] <chadeldridge> demonspork, yeah i know, but 80mb on a 1000mb connection is slow :-D
[00:55] <Scunizi> leequarella: could also be sudo ./<package name> --uninstall
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> chadeldridge: i dont use it. i think its worthless
[00:55] <Scunizi> leequarella: then again.. what was the package?
[00:55] <nspyr> anyone know what invalid/corrupt kernel would be?
[00:55] <leequarella> netbeans
[00:55] <_woli_> can i change a file's icon with the terminal?
[00:55] <Scunizi> leequarella: give it a shot
[00:56] <Caduceus> Hello, is there anyone here who can help me out with figuring "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=684611" out?
[00:56] <N3ts> exit
[00:56] <nspyr> is a 586 bootable from a usb?
[00:56] <firefly2442> I used the liveCD and did "boot from first hard drive" and it loaded fine
[00:56] <Caduceus> I have the same exact problem as that person and I wanted to know if someone could teach me to do that.
[00:56] <J3nal> ActionPasnip: still show segmentation fault
[00:56] <firefly2442> fstab looks good, I used sudo grub and then find /boot/grub/stage1 and it says error 15
[00:56] <nspyr> Caduceus: do what?
[00:57] <Ward1983> im reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization , because i wanted to find out how i can do kernel updates on my persistent live system
[00:57] <Caduceus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=684611
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> nspyr: you'll have to check your bios
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> J3nal: ok
[00:57] <Caduceus> nspyr: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=684611
[00:57] <Ward1983> it states "If you want to customize further the boot process, you can change the livecd kernel, by copying the vmlinuz and initrd you want in place of the ones you find in extract-cd/casper (don't forget to apt-get the right kernel, the one that matches the livecd one, once chrooted into edit)." but what does that mean?
[00:57] <Aethelred> I'm running 8.10-amd64. I'm looking for GSView, and can't find the package. Can someone tell me where it is, or what has replaced it?
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> J3nal: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --purge remove pidgin; sudo apt-get autoremove; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install pidgin
[00:58] <nspyr> Caduceus: are you using 7.10?
[00:58] <nspyr> Aethelred: do you mean gqview?
[00:58] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me where i can  get the installed package files...so that i can put it in my pen drive and install the same on other systems
[00:58] <fwaokda> whats the best program to run emulate/simulate windows xp pro through ubuntu?
[00:59] <weirdfate> question, Can you set ubuntu to look like kubuntu(kde one task bar at the botom)??
[00:59] <Caduceus> nspyr: No im using the newest version
[00:59] <DarkOverlord> Does anyone here have ubuntu 8.10 as a vm on esx?
[00:59] <eseven73> !aptoncd | DarkKnight
[00:59] <Alca7raz> fwaokda: have you tried wine?
[00:59] <cellofellow> DarkKnight: you can try aptoncd, but all the downloaded packages live in /var/cache/apt/archives.
[00:59] <Aethelred> nspyr:  nope.
[00:59] <cellofellow> DarkKnight: aptoncd helps sort them out
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> DarkKnight: try /var/cache/apt
[00:59] <eseven73> DarkKnight: that will make a iso you can put on usb stick or CD
[00:59] <fwaokda> Alca7raz, ya as far as I know zune software doesn't work though wine
[01:00] <nspyr> Aethelred: did a search for ghostscript?
[01:00] <Alca7raz> fwaokda: ah, well i dont do much full emulation so other than that i wouldn't know
[01:00] <J3nal> ActionPasnip: same result
[01:00] <DarkKnight> eseven73, cellofellow; i have read about aptoncd....when i write an image on disk containing all the packages....can i write it again like a multisession disk
[01:00] <DarkOverlord> so, ive got a strange issue.. its a fresh install of ubuntu on esx 3.5, ran all patches on the ubutnu guest etc...  have apache2 / php5 running, zero connections, and takes almost 10secs for a page to load...  the server seems really responsive though other than apache..
[01:01] <eseven73> yep its an .iso DarkKnight you can burn it to CD or USB i believe
[01:01] <Aethelred> nspyr: I did, in Synaptic, search for that. Also for Ghostview.
[01:01] <Caduceus> nspyr: WOuld you be able to help me out?
[01:01] <eseven73> DarkKnight: i know for a fact you can burn it to CD/DVD anyways
[01:01] <J3nal> ActionPasnip: any idea?
[01:01] <Aethelred> nspyr: I have ghostscript installed already.
[01:01] <DarkOverlord> .
[01:01] <cellofellow> DarkKnight: doesn't look like it does multisession disks.
[01:02] <nspyr> Caduceus: no thats not my area of expertise sorry
[01:02] <chadeldridge> ActionParsnip, let me make sure i am right here .. i need to edit interfaces only or interfaces and resolv.conf
[01:02] <DarkKnight> cellofellow; dont we have that facility in linux
[01:03] <cellofellow> DarkKnight: oh, yeah, sure, just not with AptOnCD, it makes an ISO image and lets you burn with whatever program you like.
[01:03] <DarkKnight> eseven73; can we burn it to an usb....is it possible...and my usb is ntfs..
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> chadeldridge: interfaces should be ok, i would edit resolv.conf to add dns servers
[01:03] <chadeldridge> ActionParsnip, they change all day though .. i plug in about 10 places
[01:03] <Caduceus> nspyr: okay
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> chadeldridge: ah
[01:03] <nspyr> anyone ran linux on a ... ... ... emachine?
[01:03] <cellofellow> DarkKnight: you could make the ISO, copy it to USB drive, take to other computer, mount ISO image and Synaptic should recognize it as having packages on it.
[01:03] <DarkKnight> cellofellow; its not about burning...its about multisession
[01:03] <chadeldridge> ActionParsnip, will it dhcp them ?
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> chadeldridge: well try it, just to test
[01:04] <chadeldridge> k
[01:04] <DarkKnight> cellofellow; its not about burning...its about multisession on cd
[01:04] <Caduceus>  is there anyone here who can help me out with figuring "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=684611" out?   I have the same exact problem as that person and I wanted to know if someone could teach me to do that.
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> chadeldridge: yes, you will get dhcp (i believe) but the settings will override
[01:04] <cellofellow> DarkKnight: Might want to google multisession iso images.
[01:04] <gasull> Hi.  I just created a new partition for /tmp, added it as noexec to /etc/fstab, and now when I reboot the machine I cannot start my XWindows session.  .xsession-errors: Setting IM through im-switch for locale=en_US.
[01:04] <gasull> Start IM through /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default.
[01:05] <gasull> mkdtemp: private socket dir: Permission denied
[01:05] <georg> Hallo miteinander. ich schau mal gerade rein.
[01:05] <nspyr> does anyone have any stories about e machines ?
[01:05] <gasull> How can i fix it?  Please help
[01:05] <linuxman410> nspyr i am running it on a compaq presario
[01:06] <cellofellow> nspyr: my general impression of emachines is avoid.
[01:06] <georg> Ok, dann werde ich mal wieder
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> chadeldridge: once you have tested, if you remove that file and reboot you will get a fresh blank config
[01:07] <nspyr> yes i believe emachines are have propriteryized in some weird way that makes then in great need of service all the time
[01:07] <cellofellow> !de | georg
[01:07] <df00z> Hey, i started a raid array
[01:07] <df00z> mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 sda sdb
[01:08] <df00z> starts ok
[01:08] <df00z> fdisk md0 shows a partition
[01:08] <chadeldridge> ActionParsnip, ok .. well i edited the interface file and now i am getting it scrolling to get dhcp for eth0 which is currently not pluged in
[01:08] <df00z> but /dev/md0p1 doesnt exist
[01:08] <chadeldridge> ActionParsnip, does it give up after a while of keep trying ?
[01:08]  * firefly2442 just accidentally ran rm * on /boot ....opps..... :/
[01:08] <chadeldridge> ActionParsnip, ahh nm .. it gave up
[01:08] <fryguy> df00z: did you create a gpt partition on the block device?
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> chadeldridge: then just comment out the config for eth0, or wait. it will time out
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> !raid | df00z
[01:10] <df00z> Hey, I mounted a raid array, fdisk md0 shows a partition
[01:10] <df00z> but /dev/md0p1 doesnt show, anyone have any idea?
[01:11] <fryguy> df00z: i just told you my idea, please pay attention
[01:11] <Lemonwedge> alright im trying to extract a file but it says error extracting file (null)
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> Lemonwedge: what command are you using to get that?
[01:12] <Lemonwedge> no command
[01:12] <Lemonwedge> just from the GUI
[01:12] <df00z2> ....ok...pidgin keeps locking up...
[01:13] <df00z2> I started a raid, /dev/md0
[01:13] <df00z2> fdisk shows md0p1, but /dev/md0p1 doesnt exist
[01:13] <EADG> Anybody know what option to use with "ls" to drop the date & time?
[01:13] <df00z2> anyone have any idea?
[01:13] <fizzbane> I just installed emerald and now my windows decorator is gone...it was there for like a second or two but now its totally disappeared, how can i fix it?
[01:13] <Lemonwedge> i was trying to get this theme for emerald
[01:13] <Lemonwedge> http://themes.beryl-project.org/download.php?id=153
[01:13] <schnauzer> When I boot up Intrepid, the splash screen quits and I get a message stating "Cannot enable port 1.  Maybe the USB cable is bad?" However, my front USB ports (the only ones with cables) work perfectly.
[01:13] <fryguy> df00z2: like i already said, use gparted to create a gpt disklabel.  fdisk is used for msdos disk labels.  they are no compatible
[01:14] <Nith> Lemonwedge: I would use fusion-icon to change your decorator back to metacity (but keep your window manager compiz)
[01:14] <Nith> as for correcting emerald so it works, sorr
[01:15] <Nith[Away]> bbiab
[01:15] <LjL> !away > Nith[Away]    (Nith[Away], see the private message from ubottu)
[01:15] <Lemonwedge> what about fusion icon?
[01:15] <schnauzer> lsusb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87439/
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> fizzbane: you on an nvidia card per chance?
[01:15] <S3lo> Hi there, i cant seem to get my Huawei E220 to work with Networkmanager 0.7 does anyone know what i am missing? google said, that it might have problems with recognising the PIN and sending it the right way, but i don t know how to solve that...
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> !bluetooth | S3lo
[01:16] <Ward1983> im reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization , because i wanted to find out how i can do kernel updates on my persistent live system
[01:16] <Ward1983> it states "If you want to customize further the boot process, you can change the livecd kernel, by copying the vmlinuz and initrd you want in place of the ones you find in extract-cd/casper (don't forget to apt-get the right kernel, the one that matches the livecd one, once chrooted into edit)." but what does that mean?
[01:16] <fizzbane> ActionParsnip: yes i am on an nvidia card
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> fizzbane: thought so, you need 2 lines in xorg.conf
[01:16] <NutZ> help, I think I screwed up firefox to the point on no return
[01:17] <tsrk> is there any way to have ubuntu resolve a url with a specified dns server (not in the dns server file)?
[01:17] <S3lo> it s not bluetooth... i m connecting via an E220 Huawei USB Modem
[01:17] <huang_cheng> What kind of cryptography do you use/recommend at the filesystem level (for use in notebooks)?
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> fizzbane: http://pastebin.com/f169a3373
[01:17] <Caduceus>  is there anyone here who can help me out with figuring "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=684611" out?   I have the same exact problem as that person and I wanted to know if someone could teach me to do that.
[01:17] <Nith[Away]> NutZ: rm -rf ~/.mozilla but it will remove all of your bookmarks and settings
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> fizzbane: line 75 and 76
[01:17] <Lemonwedge> or do i have to download files for emerald under the ubuntu section
[01:17] <chadeldridge> ActionParsnip, sorry to be a bother ... but unless i use network-manager i have no dns resolution.  the resolve.conf file is blank
[01:17] <Nith[Away]> Lemonwedge: there's probably a command to do it as well, but fusion-icon is a program that lets you switch window managers quickly
[01:17] <df00z2> fryguy:it shows /dev/md0p1 in gparted
[01:17] <fizzbane> ActionParsnip: do i just paste those there at random?
[01:18] <df00z2> if I right click, edit label, and try to set it, it says no device /dev/md0p1
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> Nith[Away]: NutZ: its better to mv it so you can roll back
[01:18] <df00z2> This partition works fine in another distro
[01:18] <Nith[Away]> this is true
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> fizzbane: put it in the video card section, like mine is
[01:18] <dotblank> I have an Optical Cable connection on one PC that supports AC3 passthrough yet the computer that is playing the file does not, Is there a way to send the audio output over the network?
[01:18] <NutZ> I accidently added a 32 repository to my 64bit software sources, looked for updates, installed 9 updates mostly for FF and after restarting firefox it is just a greyed out blank FF window
[01:19] <df00z2> fryguy: it says no valid filesystem superblovk, failure to open /dev/md0p1
[01:19] <fizzbane> ActionParsnip: alright...
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> fizzbane: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:19] <cvtnix> what is causing constant sticking [gliching, brief freezing, etc.] during all my youtube video plays?
[01:20] <fizzbane> ActionParsnip: thanks, i was looking for that.
[01:20] <nickrud> NutZ, disable the 32bit, run sudo apt-get update , then sudo apt-get install --reinstall <the nine updates>
[01:20] <NutZ> ActionParsnip can you explain how I could do that so I can roll it back?
[01:20] <DarkFuzion> whats up people
[01:21] <chadeldridge> ActionParsnip, should the resolv.conf file be blank.  shouldnt i be getting dns from dhcp like all the other clients on this network?
[01:21] <ari_stress> morning :)
[01:21] <fizzbane> ActionParsnip: I added both 75 and 76. is that all i need to do?
[01:21] <NutZ> Nickrud, I have closed the updte manager I wouldnt know how to find out what was installed in the last update
[01:22] <df00z2> dang it.
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> fizzbane: save the file and hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[01:22] <Kelen> Hi, How to send file with IRC?
[01:22] <fizzbane> ActionParsnip: alright will do. Thanks
[01:22] <loui> koi
[01:22] <nbeebo> i dont remember, but theres a fontpack to download, something close to artwiz or something like that, anyone know?
[01:22] <nbeebo> !fonts
[01:23] <Ward1983> anybody have exsperience with persistent live boot?
[01:23] <Ward1983> experience
[01:23] <nickrud> NutZ, you should be able to find them at the end of /var/log/dpkg.log
[01:24] <fizzbane> ActionParsnip: it is still broken....
[01:24] <nickrud> NutZ, grep installed /var/log/dpkg.log will be easier to read :)
[01:25] <huang_cheng> I am unhappy, because if a thief steal my notebook, my files will be unprotected with ubuntu. Is there a way to encrypt all the files at the filesystem level? :-(
[01:25] <r00tl> what version?
[01:25] <huang_cheng> r00tl: latest
[01:25] <fryguy> huang_cheng: yes, truecrypt is available, lvm has encryption support, as well as EncFS
[01:26] <Half-Pipe> encryption so you cant format ?
[01:26] <Half-Pipe> if a thief steals?
[01:26] <r00tl> iirc 8.10 has encryption for /home folders?
[01:26] <Ltl> huang_cheng: enter a boot password in the system BIOS
[01:26] <huang_cheng> Half-Pipe: Yes, transparent encryption, like windows efs
[01:26] <jshriver> anyone here use lirc? how do you set it up with a serial? I've gone through the steps but can't get it to work
[01:26] <fryguy> 8.10 (and 8.04) have support for encrypting the entire disk, including swap
[01:26] <Half-Pipe> ok ok , i am noob hehe :)
[01:26] <huang_cheng> Ltl: it is not safe
[01:27] <jshriver> looks like lircd, ircat, ipw keep wanting to use /dev/lirc  but the drivers create lirc0 and lircd
[01:27] <nickrud> huang_cheng, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystems
[01:27] <sp0wn> Half-pipe - you're not going to find a way to stop a guy with physical access from formatting
[01:27] <sp0wn> but you will be able to protect your data from prying eyes
[01:27] <Half-Pipe> ok
[01:27] <DiiPhantom> i want to install virtualbox, but in synaptic i see virtualbox-oso, is that it?
[01:27] <huang_cheng> thank you guys, I'll try one of these solutions :-)
[01:27] <Lemonwedge> i installed fusion-icon but i cant find it in the add to panel list
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> fizzbane: add Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" to your screen section too ;)
[01:28] <df00z2> fryguy: What actually creates /dev/md0p1?  udev?
[01:28] <nickrud> DiiPhantom, that's the open source edition (ose)
[01:28] <fryguy> DiiPhantom: virtualbox-ose, yes
[01:28] <df00z2> Will it not create it for ms-dos style paritions?
[01:28] <fizzbane> ActionParsnip: AH, i see. ok. will do.
[01:28] <Kelen> Anyone know how to send files with IRC?
[01:28] <r00tl> is there anyway to mount vbox or vmware drives in Ubuntu/
[01:29] <Until_It_Sleeps> How do I get "themes" for Ubuntu?
[01:29] <fryguy> Until_It_Sleeps: you download them and put them into .themes in your home dir
[01:30] <Until_It_Sleeps> well where do I download them?
[01:30] <r00tl> http://art.gnome.org/ http://www.gnome-look.org/
[01:30] <nickrud> Until_It_Sleeps, in synaptic, search for 'themes', the gtk2 ones are for ubuntu. Also, gnome-look.org
[01:30] <fryguy> Kelen: use dcc
[01:30] <abarbaccia> hey all, im using NFS shares and while booting the system hangs on "waiting for <folder>..." and then times out and continues booting. since it doesnt mount at boot, it never gets mounted. why is this? i can mount once i boot with sudo mount <dir> just fine.
[01:30] <r00tl> try those
[01:30] <fryguy> Until_It_Sleeps: gnome-look.org and art.gnome.org
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> fizzbane: add the line, save then restart x server again
[01:30] <fryguy> Until_It_Sleeps: assuming you are using the default desktop environment
[01:30] <dr_willis> Until_It_Sleeps,  gnome has themes.. not ubuntu. :) gnome-look.org has many theme parts.. and theres a lot in the repos/package manager Not isntalled by default.. i would check there first.
[01:30] <Ward1983> im reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization , because i wanted to find out how i can do kernel updates on my persistent live system
[01:30] <Ward1983> it states "If you want to customize further the boot process, you can change the livecd kernel, by copying the vmlinuz and initrd you want in place of the ones you find in extract-cd/casper (don't forget to apt-get the right kernel, the one that matches the livecd one, once chrooted into edit)." but what does that mean?
[01:30] <Ltl> Kelen: try /dcc send nick file
[01:30] <fizzbane> ActionParsnip: wow...i cannot open the xorg.conf in terminal...what is the command again?
[01:31] <Kelen> Ltl: okay, try immediately..
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> fizzbane: use up cursor ;)
[01:31] <fryguy> fizzbane: sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:31] <name_name> sup #ubuntu, I have a nice 115 GB partiton with ubuntu 8.10 on it, and a nice 5 GB partiton with Vista Ultimate on it (ew..) anyway grub works fine and I can boot to either when I turn on the computer. My question for you is how can I boot vista _inside_ ubuntu so I don't need to restart (I hate having to stop everything just to use on app for a minute in vista.) I got VMware Workstation but...
[01:31] <r00tl> or nano, or emacs, or...
[01:31] <name_name> ...I don;t know if that will do it
[01:31] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: he doesn't know the command and your having him use vim???  you're brave.
[01:31] <fryguy> name_name: use virtualization software like virtualbox, qemu, xen, or vmware
[01:32] <nickrud> name_name, that's the way you do it.
[01:32] <onetinsoldier> hello. i followed the tutorial here --> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/03/01/allowing-limited-sudo-access-with-visudo/ in order to try and make it so my regular user could use the mount command. however, i still get the message that 'only root can do that' whenever my regular user tries to use it. here is my line, and i ran 'visudo -c' and it said 'parsed ok'.... onetinsoldier ALL=(root) /bin/mount
[01:32] <gandalfcome> Is there any way to force ld to give me the places where it looks for a library specifically and which filenames it tries.
[01:32] <ubuntu_portugal> hi
[01:32] <fizzbane> ActionParsnip: I restarted X already and lost the command from before
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: nope, i had him gksudo gedit
[01:32] <ubuntu_portugal> im new on ubuntu
[01:32] <ubuntu_portugal> how can i exctract bin files
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> fizzbane: you didnt, its stored in ~/.bash_history
[01:32] <firefly2442> what's the difference between (hd1,1) identification versus /dev/sda  and where can I find this? (tries fdisk -l already)
[01:32] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: ah sorry.. that was fryguy
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> fizzbane: your last 1000 commands are stored in there
[01:33] <chilli0> hey all
[01:33] <nickrud> onetinsoldier, iirc it matters where in the file that permission is relative to the admin permission line. If it's below, move it above or visa versa
[01:33] <fizzbane> ActionParsnip: Hi, Im new to linux/unbuntu...please explain?
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> fizzbane: so you can use up cursor to view them one at a time, or execute history to see them all
[01:33] <fryguy> Scunizi: vi is a basic unix text editor, known for portability.  What exactly is the problem?
[01:33] <chilli0> im looking into getting a dell lappy for xmas, but i live in aus and they dont ship them with ubuntu here
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> fizzbane: you type commands in terminal and they do stuff
[01:33] <koshari> firefly2442 ones a grub identifier and the other a nod
[01:33] <koshari> e
[01:33] <Scunizi> ubuntu_portugal: why do you want to extract.. .bin files are typically binary installation files.
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> fizzbane: the command is also added to ¬/.bash_history
[01:34] <fizzbane> ActionParsnip: ah, i get it. I know what terminal does. i got that much. thanks man i opened it up
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> fizzbane: if you press up arrow it will cycle from the last command you exectued, back to the first you ever did (unless yuo have executed more than 1000 commands)
[01:34] <Scunizi> fryguy: just commenting that if he couldn't remember the command vi or vim might be a bit confusing over using something like nano or gedit..
[01:34] <mm> I'm still having problems compiling a C/C++ program in ubuntu using kdevelop. This paste is what error msg I get : http://paste.ubuntu.com/87446/
[01:34] <mm> can anyone help
[01:34] <chilli0> does anyone know how well the drivers are supported for the Dell™ Inspiron™ 1525?
[01:34] <ubuntu_portugal> bin files isnt same as iso files? images??so i need to mount?
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> fizzbane: so you can reexecute commands without retyping
[01:34] <godsyn> fizzbane: also, pressing ctrl-r will allow you to search through your last 1000 commands.
[01:34] <DiiPhantom> !partitions
[01:35] <Scunizi> ubuntu_portugal: no.. what is the file/program?
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> fizzbane: if you want something cooler you can execute the command: history
[01:35] <fryguy> mm: this isn't a channel that discusses programming.  Check out #programming or #c, for example
[01:35] <dr_willis> the .bin extension means basically NOTHING these days... its used by too many companies/tools/ for all sorts of things
[01:35] <df00z2> this is so stupid...
[01:35] <fryguy> fizzbane: also check out recursive lookback, using ctrl-r
[01:35] <ubuntu_portugal> jdk
[01:35] <Ltl> Kelen: the file needs to be in your irssi upload dir, default is present working dir in irssi, or /home/user by default. use tab completion.
[01:35] <df00z2> I created partitions with gparted, cant find /dev/md0p1
[01:35] <fizzbane> ActionParsnip: ^^ I love linux
[01:35] <mm> I did check with them, they told me to check with ubuntu, they said its a ubunty iss
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> fizzbane: and it will spit the commands to the scrren, you can then execute a specific one using !<number of command you want to rerun>
[01:35] <ku> so, has anybody managed to solve the "pidgin: symbol lookup error: pidgin: undefined symbol: purple_smileys_get_all" problem after upgrading to intrepid?
[01:36] <firefly2442> koshari: how can I tell what they correspond to in grub?
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> fizzbane: you can grep the history output to get something more intelligent
[01:36] <chilli0> does anyone know how well the drivers are supported for the Dell™ Inspiron™ 1525?
[01:36] <Scunizi> ubuntu_portugal: java?  you should use System>Admin>Synaptic Pkg Manager and search for java
[01:36] <fizzbane> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot dude. that will come in handy but most of it went over my head...
[01:36] <godsyn> fizzbane: IE : history | grep -i "ls"
[01:36] <Scunizi> ubuntu_portugal: or search for jdk
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> fizzbane: you'll learn
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> fizzbane: add that line in the screen section and save, exit and restart x like before
[01:36] <Kelen> Ltl: I got irssi folder ~/.irssi..
[01:37] <fizzbane> ActionParnsip: thanks man. Im gunna restart X now and then go get some food. Thanks for all the help man. I appreciate it
[01:37] <mm> can anyone assist me with ubuntu and kdevelop?
[01:37] <fryguy> chilli0: i have a small business version of 1500 (the 6400) and driver support is fine
[01:37] <df00z2> he kernel was unable to re-read the partition table on /dev/md0 (Invalid argument).  This means Linux won't know anything about the modifications you made until you reboot.
[01:37] <godsyn> ActionParsnip: my hats off to you, most people wouldn't go to such extents to explain something.
[01:37] <df00z2> this is _BROKEN_
[01:37] <chadeldridge> Using the interfaces file shouldnt i get dns entries automatically when i pull dhcp.  I get IP but no dns.
[01:37] <df00z2> This should not be this complicated...
[01:37] <randy3434> Scunizi: nope
[01:37] <ubuntu_portugal> i know that but i d like to learn more about command in linux there is any good tutorial you recoomend?
[01:37] <Scunizi> ubuntu_portugal: installing programs that are not in the repositories and accessable from synaptic is not recommended.
[01:37] <chilli0> ok thanks fryguy
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> godsyn: oh i do cos i want people to learn the right way to do stuff
[01:37] <fryguy> ubuntu_portugal: the man command gives detailed information about a given command
[01:37] <DiiPhantom> im removing vista from my harddrive, and in that place installnig ubuntu, i make it PRIMARY?
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> godsyn: like sudo gedit being WRONG
[01:37] <randy3434> Scunizi: that was from a while back - only one nic in machine with weird VMware internet problem
[01:38] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: thanks for the reply. i put it in just like they show on the tutorial.. same area placement and all. you are making me wonder if there is something wrong with the tutorial now.
[01:38] <godsyn> ActionParsnip: gksudo :)
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> godsyn: plus i type fast so its easy :D
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> godsyn: indeed
[01:39] <ubuntu_portugal> so if i d try with terminal command i d do to install jre in bin format?
[01:39] <Ltl> Kelen: type /set in irssi, the default upload dir is /home/userdir i believe. not ~/.irssi/
[01:39] <fryguy> ubuntu_portugal: just install jre from the repository
[01:40] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: another reason i am wondering is because the sudoers file even has comment lines that show were this entry should go.
[01:40] <godsyn> ubuntu_portugal: are you attempting to install java runtime enviroment? if so, use "aptitude search jre"
[01:40] <kaimerra> Is there a way to have my generic kernel and my RT kernel boot different video drivers/xorg.conf files?  specifically FGLRX and open source ATI respectively.
[01:40] <dr_willis> ubuntu_portugal,  i normally just install the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' pacakge - it grabs java and flash and some other stuff you proberly want
[01:41] <xNIAx1> Hello
[01:41] <gpeacock> I need help mounting a floppy using 8.10 on an old Dell box.  I added an entry into fstab for /dev/fd0, but that does not exist... How do I mount a floppy disk?
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> !hi | xNIAx1
[01:41] <onetb> I can't mount drives automatically because it says I must be superuser.  I don't see anything in the user permissions that would do this.  any ideas?
[01:42] <LoveGuru> !ftp
[01:42] <godsyn> !fstab | onetb
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> onetb: if you add entries to /etc/fstab it will mount at boot
[01:42] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: but i just tried what you suggested, no difference
[01:42] <Ltl> onetb: sudo mount /dev/devicename /media/mountpoint
[01:42] <LoveGuru> !vsftpd
[01:42] <LoveGuru> !proftpd
[01:42] <mm> can anyone help me with a problem that I have with c/c++ using kdevelop for ubuntu... i cannot compile the source, this is what it displays: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87446/
[01:42] <xNIAx1> Could I boot ubuntu from a dvd and run like a normal OS?
[01:42] <fryguy> xNIAx1: yes, that's what the livecd is for
[01:43] <Until_It_Sleeps> Are there any themes for Ubuntu that look like Windows XP MCE 2005? I know this request sound... ridiculous, but I'm just curious
[01:43] <df00z2> Anyone know why md0p1 might not be being created when I mdadm -A /dev/md0 sda sdb
[01:43] <xNIAx1> Thanks fry.
[01:43] <fryguy> Until_It_Sleeps: there are themes and desktop environments to make linux look and behave however you want.  take some time to look around, research, and tweak it to do whatever you want
[01:43] <godsyn> mm : 1: are you trying to install from repos? 2: if not, are you installing via sudo?
[01:44] <mm> i installed via sudo
[01:44] <ubuntu_portugal> thaks
[01:44] <mm> its installed, i can use the ide but compiling it doesnt work
[01:44] <xNIAx1> HP.com doesn't have any Linux drivers. How can I find out if trying to run ubuntu on my laptop isn't gonna be a waste of time?
[01:45] <abarbaccia> xNIAx1: put in a live cd and see what happens. no changes are made and u can play and test
[01:45] <fryguy> xNIAx1: you put the livecd in and boot it
[01:45] <godsyn> mm: looks like you aren't using sudo to compile.
[01:45] <onetb> actionparsnip:  not a good fix, as it is for usb flash drives and externals
[01:45] <godsyn> mm: can you paste the command used?
[01:45] <schnauzer> When I boot up Intrepid, I get "hub 3-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 1.  Maybe the USB cable is bad?" I think one of my motherboard USB internal ports (the kind you hook a case cable up to) has gone bad. Any ideas on how to blacklist it?
[01:45] <mm> http://paste.ubuntu.com/87446/
[01:45] <onetb> ltl: i know how to do it manually, is don't want to
[01:45] <mm> entire error msg is pasted
[01:45] <fryguy> mm: do development in a directory that you have read/write access to
[01:45] <xNIAx1> Thanks abarbaccia and fry for your patients.
[01:45] <godsyn> mm: looking
[01:45] <fryguy> mm: (your home directory, not /usr/local)
[01:46] <xNIAx1> and info*
[01:46] <Ltl> onetb: man fstab, easier to read the wiki's
[01:46] <mm> i have it under usr/local/src
[01:46] <mm> bad move?
[01:46] <godsyn> mm: yes.
[01:46] <mm> whats a good path
[01:46] <JCDG> xNIAx1, check out this "hplip"...
[01:46] <onetb> ltl.  I'll look, but it still doesn't work at the problem, namely that my drives should mount without being superuser
[01:46] <fryguy> mm: like i just said, your home directory
[01:46] <godsyn> ~/development/whatever/
[01:46] <timlarson> just updated cups, now getting "Pause-Printer: Unauthorized" and "Resume-Printer: Unauthorized" in the logs and nothing prints...is this a known new bug?
[01:46] <mm> let me try that...
[01:46] <mm> thanks
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> onetb: what is?
[01:47] <timlarson> on 8.10
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> onetb: its the same for mounting usb as it is for internal drives.
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> onetb: they all show up as /dev/<something>
[01:47] <cplx> How do i fix leaked stealth NS records?
[01:47] <godsyn> timlarson: no issues here... although I haven't tried to print since the update.. I'll try now.
[01:48] <onetb> actionparsnip: i know that, but I want to fix the permission which is keepinig me from mo
[01:48] <onetb> mounting drives
[01:48] <godsyn> timlarson: works here :)
[01:48] <onetb> i should be able too
[01:48] <timlarson> thanks, godsyn
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> onetb: oh the 1000 uid?
[01:48] <xNIAx1> hplip?
[01:48] <onetinsoldier> hello. i followed the tutorial here --> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/03/01/allowing-limited-sudo-access-with-visudo/ in order to try and make it so my regular user could use the mount command. however, i still get the message that 'only root can do that' whenever my regular user tries to use it. here is my line, and i ran 'visudo -c' and it said 'parsed ok'.... onetinsoldier ALL=(root) /bin/mount
[01:49] <onetb> yes
[01:49] <JCDG> xNIAx1, yeah it may help u with the HP drivers
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> onetb: i'd read some mounting guides
[01:49] <xNIAx1> I don't know what you mean by hplip. sorry
[01:49] <onetb> actionparsnip:  I will, thanks anyway
[01:50] <orochi> hello :> i've noticed that in intrepid the keyboard "repeat" seems to randomly disable itself, even though it's still checked in the appropriate dialog...is there a way to fix this?
[01:50] <godsyn> xNIAx1: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System
[01:51] <mm> fryguy:  tried into a new dir... didnt work
[01:51] <fryguy> mm: you have a different error now
[01:51] <JCDG> godsyn, xNIAx1 That's right...
[01:51] <xNIAx1> okay
[01:51] <mm> let me paste
[01:51] <xNIAx1> Thanks :)
[01:52] <godsyn> xNIAx1: if he is suggesting you install it, aptitude search hplip
[01:52] <mm> fryguy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87461/
[01:52] <mm> fryguy: i used a new dir
[01:52] <fryguy> mm: your makefile is wrong
[01:53] <fryguy> mm: it's trying to mkdir /.libtools  which is wrong
[01:53] <mm> fryguy: how do i fix it
[01:53] <fryguy> mm: no idea, i don't use kdevelop, and this isn't a kdevelop (or any other programming for that matter) support channel
[01:53] <xNIAx1> Thanks again
[01:54] <mm> fryguy: so its an ide problem not ubuntu?
[01:54] <romeo> hi everyone! i'm just wondering if anyone can help me with the sound problem that i have with xubuntu?
[01:54] <fryguy> mm: it's not an ubuntu problem
[01:54] <fryguy> romeo: nobody can help you until you ask your question or state your problem
[01:54] <mm> fryguy: thanks
[01:54] <onetinsoldier> mm: have you tried the #kde-devel channel?
[01:55] <Anacranom> i just burned the 8.10 to disk at slowest speed possible, ran md5sums, all points well. (2nd disk-2nd download i've done) when i boot to it, tell it to install, it ends up with this:    Loading, please wait... <NEXT Line> BusyBox v1.10.2 (Ubuntu 1:1.10.2-1ununtu6) built-in shell (ash) <NEXT Line> Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands. <NEXT Line> (initramfs) _<<<---prompt,  what does this mean?
[01:55] <mm> onetinsoldier: no, ill try it
[01:55] <onetinsoldier> mm: ok... cool
[01:55] <randy3434> i can't connect to the internet in ubuntu. but, from within vmware (xp, inside of ubuntu), i can connect...?? how can i start to troubleshoot this?
[01:55] <fryguy> Anacranom: it means you have a hardware problem or incompatibility with the livecd.  use the alternate install disc
[01:56] <nbeebo> I LOVE PEPSI <3 (coca-cola too addictive)
[01:56] <nbeebo> oh yeah this isnt offtopic
[01:56] <nbeebo> lol
[01:56] <fryguy> randy3434: do you have dns entries in /etc/resolv.conf
[01:56] <romeo> i just installed xubuntu in my pc and after installing all the updates, I'm getting no sounds (i can see youtube vids but without the sound).
[01:56] <randy3434> i do not
[01:56] <fryguy> randy3434: that is your problem
[01:57] <randy3434> that's it? that seems way too easy...
[01:57] <fryguy> randy3434: linux is easy
[01:57] <mm> romeo: goto volume control > switches > unselect External Amplifier... close it and test sound
[01:57] <Anacranom> fryguy, ok,, i may do that, just told 8.04 to upgrade, we'll see how that goes first, but already have had error (minor)
[01:57] <randy3434> so what do i put in there?
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> Anacranom: try some boot options
[01:58] <fryguy> randy3434: valid nameservers, either ones that you know, opendns, or ones provides by your isp.  read the manpage
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | Anacranom
[01:58] <yeryry> fryguy: isn't that what dhcp is for..?
[01:58] <fryguy> yeryry: it's one of the auxiliary functions of dhcp, yes
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> romeo: do you get sound frmo other apps
[01:59] <romeo> i tried that but im still not getting anything
[01:59] <randy3434> actually, i opened up resolv.conf, and it says "nameserver 192.168.207.2"
[01:59] <romeo> no
[01:59] <Spreadsheet> hello
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> !sound | romeo
[01:59] <FrozenFire> To install VirtualBox on Intrepid, would I simply install the virtualbox-ose package?
[01:59] <Spreadsheet> is there any way to show the kernel messages when booting ubuntu?
[01:59] <fryguy> randy3434: and is that an actual nameserver?
[01:59] <randy3434> not sure what the number is/ where that came from... so where does that leave me?
[01:59] <yeryry> so.. manually inputting nameservers is probably addressing the symptom not the cause..
[01:59] <fryguy> yeryry: not necessarily
[01:59] <randy3434> i have no idea... how do i tell?
[02:00] <randy3434> i guess i should mention that my router works with every other computer that hooks up to it
[02:00] <fryguy> randy3434: try using nslookup
[02:00]  * yeryry doubts he manually inputted nameservers on the xp install...
[02:00] <Anacranom> ActionParsnip, 2 days ago i did this same process with 8.04 with no issues, same hardware, what would the difference be?
[02:00] <romeo> when go to volume control and file, all that i can see are options and exit.
[02:00] <fryguy> yeryry: every machine I use on a regular basis except one is statically configured.  It's not that uncommon
[02:00] <randy3434> i did "nslookup <that address>" and it timed out
[02:01] <CRASH69> can someone help me plz, I cant install anything... http://pastebin.com/m76a2d601
[02:01] <fryguy> randy3434: and if you ping it?
[02:01] <randy3434> destination host unreachable
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> Anacranom: if its 8.10 then its a different kernel. You may have some fncy power stuff or something the system doesnt like so boot options are needed so they get ignored
[02:01] <tokam-|-away> :P
[02:01] <fryguy> CRASH69: you ran out of hard drive space, repartition
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> Anacranom: you could also use the alternative install cd so you dont need a gui and will run on anything
[02:02] <DarkFuzion> whats the command line for copying folter to somewhere
[02:02] <fryguy> DarkFuzion: 'cp'
[02:02] <CRASH69> u.u fryguy, so isnt 8GB enought :/
[02:02] <fryguy> CRASH69: it is, but you decided to partition yourself, and you didn't give enough space in some partitions.  so repartition and fix your mistake
[02:02] <DarkFuzion> cp and i want to copy it to a spicific folder
[02:03] <fryguy> DarkFuzion: so then do that.  read the manpage for syntax details
[02:03] <Anacranom> ActionParsnip, ahhh, ok, thanks, hrm,, its an older mb, ,,,i'll try to run a debug thanks again
[02:03] <DarkFuzion> where is that located lol
[02:03] <fryguy> DarkFuzion: man cp
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> DarkFuzion: cp is still used. If the last thing you specify is an existing folder, it will be put into that folder, if not a copy of the folder will be made with the new name
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> Anacranom: you could try disabling stuff in bios to reduce complication
[02:04] <DarkFuzion> i mean i want to take a folder and put inside another folder
[02:04] <randy3434> darkfuzion: to move it, use 'mv' and do 'mv' foldername1/filename foldername2/filename
[02:04] <razel> hello how can i connect to windows network? i have installed samba but i still cant connect im using ubuntu 8.10. thanks
[02:05] <kevin_405> bazhang,  are u there
[02:05] <Anacranom> ActionParsnip, well i can do anything with this box, thats what its for, ALL testing ;-)
[02:05] <bazhang> kevin_405, yep
[02:05] <kevin_405> great
[02:05] <DarkFuzion> ok thanks
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> DarkFuzion: yep same, cp
[02:05] <fryguy> razel: make sure workgroup and domain is matched up correctly
[02:05] <banteng> razel: what have you done so far?
[02:05] <DarkFuzion> i was almost right lol
[02:05] <gizm0> i already install ubuntu..when proccesing it..to many error and the install not end..what the problem?
[02:05] <randy3434> fryguy: any other tips?
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> DarkFuzion: cp ./folder /path/to/existing/folder/
[02:05] <kevin_405> bazhang, i got wpasupplicant to work with fwcutter but my eth0 wont work and also my browser does not see the internet connectin
[02:05] <DarkFuzion> i wasnt sure if you had to do some special after the first filename
[02:05] <fryguy> randy3434: is ping responsive?
[02:05] <razel> banteng: i have installed samba.. and my system were updated
[02:05] <bazhang> gizm0, did you try the steps I outlined for you?
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> DarkFuzion: will create /epath/to/existing/folder/folder
[02:06] <razel> we have a workgrup name NEMAR here in the office..
[02:06] <gizm0> bazhang : i dont understand the step..
[02:06] <bazhang> kevin_405, eth0 is ethernet
[02:06] <randy3434> no. destination host unreachable every time
[02:06] <banteng> razel: then you should try to configure samba first
[02:06] <razel> but when i connect to network none
[02:06] <gizm0> im very frustrated
[02:06] <ductv> khjk
[02:06] <ductv> ee
[02:06] <fryguy> randy3434: look at ifconfig and make sure you have an ip and a proper subnet
[02:06] <razel> banteng: how do i configure samba?
[02:06] <kevin_405> bazhang, i know
[02:06] <bazhang> gizm0, which step is that? please clarify
[02:06] <ductv> i can't
[02:06] <bazhang> kevin_405, eth0 does not work?
[02:07] <gizm0> sumthin like 560.010 - erro on my port..
[02:07] <bazhang> kevin_405, do you see eth0 in ifconfig ?
[02:07] <gizm0> unable top open device..
[02:07] <kevin_405> bazhang,  fwcutter b43 driver has conflicts with ssb
[02:07] <gizm0> i dont remember the number
[02:07] <NimalaysiaHere> hi, i got this problem : when i do"update-java-alternatives --set java-6-sun", the output is :"update-java-alternatives: plugin alternative does not exist" and when i " update-java-alternatives -l", i get "java-6-openjdk"and"java-6-sun"and"java-gcj"
[02:07] <fryguy> gizm0: details like that are pretty important
[02:07] <randy3434> everything there looks perfect. i'm not sure about the "bcast" value - never really seen that, but everything else looks good
[02:07] <kajo> so, question: how do I mark a partition on a usbdrive as bootable with fdisk?
[02:07] <gizm0> so how?
[02:07] <kevin_405> bazhang, my wlan0 is working but my browser does not recognize it.. if wlan0 is working idont care about eth0
[02:07] <bazhang> kevin_405, does ifconfig show eth0?
[02:08] <fryguy> randy3434: what is your IP?
[02:08] <gizm0> if i cant know...is reboot same like reformat?
[02:08] <randy3434> 192.168.2.40 - set by the router based on the MAC
[02:08] <razel> banteng: my wireless is ok its the workgroup name i think is the problem.
[02:08] <kevin_405> bazhang, wlan0 connection is not being recognized by browser what do i need to do
[02:08] <fryguy> randy3434: what is the IP of the router
[02:08] <bazhang> kevin_405, if it was working then the browser would be able to access websites
[02:08] <randy3434> 192.168.2.1
[02:08] <banteng> razel: you should match the workgroup name
[02:08] <fryguy> randy3434: and what if you ping that
[02:08] <bazhang> kevin_405, can you ping websites?
[02:08] <kevin_405> bazhang, i can ping i can connect to xchat etc
[02:09] <razel> banteng: how?
[02:09] <gizm0> whats my problem anywhere..?
[02:09] <randy3434> works fine
[02:09] <NimalaysiaHere> hi, i got this problem : when i do"update-java-alternatives --set java-6-sun", the output is :"update-java-alternatives: plugin alternative does not exist" and when i " update-java-alternatives -l", i get "java-6-openjdk"and"java-6-sun"and"java-gcj"
[02:09] <gizm0> am i dont know how to reboot?
[02:09] <kevin_405> bazhang,  firefox does not work
[02:09] <fryguy> randy3434: what if you change the nameserver to 192.168.2.1
[02:09] <razel> banteng: the workgroup name is mshome right now.
[02:09] <banteng> razel: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/configuring-samba.html
[02:09] <randy3434> ok. changed it in the file. now what?
[02:10] <bazhang> gizm0, did you try the alternate cd?
[02:10] <fryguy> randy3434: now try pinging google.com
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> banteng: if you gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf and you can change it there, or theres a setting in settings some place to set it
[02:10] <randy3434> do i need to restart networking first or anything?
[02:10] <bazhang> kevin_405, what about pinging www.google.com
[02:10] <fryguy> randy3434: no
[02:10] <romeo> i've tried everything that was said on the pages that were given but to no avail. I think it recognizes my soundcard but im still not getting anything
[02:10] <randy3434> timing out...
[02:10] <nbeebo> i got 300mb free space in filesystem, whats an easy way to delete some?
[02:10] <kevin_405> bazhang,  i can ping yahoo
[02:11] <fryguy> randy3434: timing out, or not resolving
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> nbeebo: sudo apt-get clean
[02:11] <kevin_405> bazhang, firefox for some reason does not like the way my network is setup
[02:11] <randy3434> well, as of right now, its still just sitting there
[02:11] <nbeebo> actionparsnip, thanks
[02:11] <randy3434> hasn't said anything yiet
[02:11] <fryguy> randy3434: just sitting there no output at all or ?
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> nbeebo: deletes old debs you have installed via apt-get etc
[02:11] <randy3434> yeah. i did "ping google.com"
[02:11] <nbeebo> actionparsnip, oh, just about to ask what i deletes
[02:11] <kajo> does anyone know how to use fdisk to mark a partition with a bootflag?
[02:11] <randy3434> and it's still thinking...
[02:11] <kajo> or any other program, I'm flexible...
[02:12] <fryguy> kajo: use cfdisk
[02:12] <kajo> fryguy, explain?
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> kajo: sudo fdisk /dev/<disk name>
[02:12] <kajo> and that will do it, ActionParsnip?
[02:12] <fep> i have a problem in ubuntu 8.10, when i start a mpeg/mpg movie it starts and quits as the movie starts, anyone know what codecs i need to install? apt-get what? =)
[02:12] <fryguy> kajo: sudo apt-get install cfdisk; cfdisk /dev/sdX, mark bootable, done
[02:12] <gpeacock> I added a Pidgin launcher to my desktop.  I would like it to launch to this forum when I launch.  What do I need to add to the CLI for it to log into this forum automatically?
[02:12] <fryguy> randy3434: your dns/dhcp configuration in your network is doing the wrong thing.  no idea why
[02:12] <kajo> fryguy, is cfdisk a gui?
[02:12] <bazhang> fep, did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[02:12] <fryguy> kajo: no
[02:13] <fep> bazhang, no, i will do now
[02:13] <kajo> what advantage does it have over fdisk?
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> kajo: reduce used space with fluff you dont need
[02:13] <craigbass1976> What's the best way to install flash in hardy?  I tried through add/remove, but still can't watch youtube.  Tried by clicking on the link to download the latest flash, and got told that I needed libcairo2, which I DO have and it is the newest version.
[02:13] <randy3434> any clue why VMware would work? that doesn't seem to make sense, does it?
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> kajo: they are taking up space and have been installed so its pointles data
[02:13] <fep> bazhang, how with aptget?
[02:13] <gizm0> bazhang : yeah i try..
[02:13] <Ltl> kevin_405: in FF, edit/preferences/advanced network, choose no proxy
[02:13] <fryguy> kajo: it provides a user interface instead of menu driven
[02:14] <kajo> ActionParsnip, did you mean reduce used space by not installing fluff?
[02:14] <yiafn> hi everyone~
[02:14] <bazhang> fep, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> kajo: ok, when you apt-get / aptitude,/ synaptic, you download a deb
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> kajo: the deb gets downloaded and put in /var/apt/cache
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> kajo: it will stay there FOREVER until you run sudo apt-get clean
[02:15] <fep> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> kajo: this is good for dialup peeps as if you uninstall and reinstall you will not redownload as the deb is in that folder still
[02:15] <fep> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:15] <fep> i get this errors
[02:15] <Ltl> randy3434: sudo dhclient eth0   try that
[02:15] <kajo> ActionParsnip, what does this have to do with what you are talking about? Are you telling me not to install cfdisk because I already have fdisk?
[02:15] <lat> Please help with an 8.10 server problem! Adding new users to the network does not stick, that is, they are not added.
[02:15] <fryguy> fep, so close the other installer that is open
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> kajo: if you do a massive install or an upgrade say from hardy to intrepid you will have LOADS of debs just sat there taking up space
[02:16] <randy3434> alright. the command went through.
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> kajo: you have both fdisk and cfdisk by default
[02:16] <randy3434> still no internet in ubuntu
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> kajo: you can redeem this space taken up by the debs by trunning sudo apt-get clean
[02:16] <fep> oh, ok
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> randy3434: is firefox in offline mode?
[02:17] <romeo> what does ! sound mean? i'm really sorry im just new to this
[02:17] <randy3434> :) nope. no chat or torrents either
[02:17] <kajo> ok... that sounds like good advice, and I'll do it as I'm short on space, but what does this have to do with fdisk? This sounds awfully random.
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> kajo: so you may be able to free a considerable lump of space by running the command
[02:17] <xNIAx1> So I'm fairly new to linux. Does anyone have a site where I can begin my learning?
[02:17] <kajo> I am trying to set a bootflag on a usbdrive, is that helps any miscommunication...
[02:17] <fryguy> kajo: nothing, no idea why he's recommending it to you
[02:17] <jimjimhim> Is there a way to remove pulse audio?  It will not allow Nexuiz game to work
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> kajo: i see
[02:17] <jimjimhim> http://www.alientrap.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=48057&sid=8118fb14daec36c442e07728f238a49a
[02:17] <bazhang> !rute | xNIAx1
[02:17] <jimjimhim> can I safely remove it?
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> kajo: cfdisk will allow you to do that
[02:17] <fep> bazhang, it was already the newest version
[02:17] <fep> what then? the movieplayers quit when i play something
[02:18] <craigbass1976> lat, I don't understand what you're trying to do.  Network users?
[02:18] <xNIAx1> Thank you
[02:18] <bazhang> fep, do you also have w32codecs from medibuntu.org ? what format is the movie
[02:18] <kajo> ActionParsnip, ahh.... ok, so, that aside.... running sudo fdisk /dev/<device> will set it as the bootable partition?
[02:18] <fep> mpeg and mpg
[02:18] <craigbass1976> What's the best way to install flash in hardy?  I tried through add/remove, but still can't watch youtube.  Tried by clicking on the link to download the latest flash, and got told that I needed libcairo2, which I DO have and it is the newest version.  NOW.... When I try again at adobe's site, clicking on the download link does nothing
[02:19] <fryguy> craigbass1976: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:19] <lat> craigbass1976, yes, add new users to the network.
[02:19] <kajo> fryguy, but won't he need to upgrade manually to the latest version of flash 10 to have it work with pulseaudio?
[02:19] <onats> help, my installation fails, and it's got something to do with ubiquity
[02:19] <fryguy> kajo: no
[02:19] <onats> !ubiquity
[02:20] <craigbass1976> fryguy, already at the newest version
[02:20] <nbeebo> how do i download more fonts?
[02:20] <fryguy> craigbass1976: then flash is installed.  If it doesn't wory correctly for you, take it up with adobe
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> kajo: it will allow you to modify that disk, you can set the bootable partition therin
[02:20] <craigbass1976> fryguy, hehe
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> !fonts | nbeebo
[02:20] <fryguy> nbeebo: you download them and put them into ~/.fonts/
[02:20] <tea> Alguem pode me ajudar?
[02:20] <kajo> ActionParsnip, so does it open a gui or something?
[02:20] <kevin_405> bazhang, how do u change firefox from offline mode to online mode
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> kajo: its a terminal app
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> kajo: gparted may be able to do it
[02:21] <craigbass1976> fryguy, have to take it up with my neighbor.  She's still sketchy about linux, and I think she'll shoot me if I don't make it run.  Worse, she may go back to vista.  I'll keep googling
[02:21] <DarkFuzion> in root how do i get to my desktop in command line
[02:21] <fryguy> worse?
[02:21] <fep> bazhang, still just quits
[02:21] <kajo> ok, so what command do I now run to make it flagged as the bootable partition?
[02:22] <fryguy> DarkFuzion: phrase that differently. I don't know what you mean
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> DarkFuzion: cd ~/Desktop
[02:22] <kajo> I have a browser open that suggests "flag" is it, but I'm wary as I don't know my way around fdisk.
[02:22] <randy3434> :( guess i'm just doomed to not have internet
[02:22] <DarkFuzion> ahhh thanks
[02:22] <bazhang> kevin_405, under the file menu on firefox uncheck box work offline
[02:22] <DarkFuzion> i trying to remeber from what i learned the other day
[02:22] <kajo> last two @ ActionParsnip
[02:22] <bazhang> fep, well not all mpeg work is this via totem or other
[02:22] <DarkFuzion> thanks action
[02:22] <regeya> wheeee
[02:22] <bazhang> regeya, ??
[02:22] <kajo> & FryGuy
[02:23] <fep> bazhang, via mplayer and totem, when i use GNOME Mplayer it plays the sound
[02:23] <genii> kajo: "a"
[02:23] <kevin_405> bazhang, great that works
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> kajo: sudo fdisk /dev/<disk name> (eg. /dev/sda)
[02:23] <kevin_405> bazhang, so finally i have fwcutter with wpa
[02:23] <kajo> ActionParsnip, already ran that.
[02:23] <bazhang> fep, what about vlc and did you install the other codecs I told you to
[02:23] <bazhang> kevin_405, nice
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> kajo: use cursors to move up and down the partitions then use left and right to select bootable
[02:24] <genii> kajo: "m" in fdisk cli tells you all the commands
[02:24] <regeya> hey, I'll give ubuntu some kudos:  at least networkmanager doesn't fizzarkle firefox, as it does in fc10.  I live in a really rural area.  I set up fc10 to do dialup, started up firefox...and it was in offline mode.  apparently it does that until the ethernet connection is configured by dhcp.  fortunately networkmanager is easily removed ;-)
[02:24] <kevin_405> bazhang, eth0 there is conflict  between b43 , b44 and ssb drivers
[02:24] <Weems> Im not getting any sound when I play a video.
[02:24] <Weems> its a mkv.
[02:24] <bazhang> regeya, the people in #ubuntu-offtopic would be interested to hear that
[02:24] <fep> i installed the codecs you mention here
[02:24] <bazhang> Weems, using vlc?
[02:25] <fep> and now i will install vlc too
[02:25] <kevin_405> bazhang,  u work hard here.. what do u do for a loving
[02:25] <kevin_405> bazhang,  u work hard here.. what do u do for a living
[02:25] <Weems> tried vlc and mplayer both
[02:25] <nbeebo> if i only wanna download packages that start with ttf, what do i do? ttf* downloads everything containing it
[02:25] <Weems> they dont work
[02:25] <craigbass1976> fryguy, criminy... I'm still in gutsy.  I forgot that I didn't upgrade her to hardy yet...
[02:25] <kajo> thank you genii, I guess a should work.... I might be back, cross your fingers guys... I'm trying to make a DSL live boot usb stick, this is the last step.
[02:25] <bazhang> kevin_405, the advantage to fwcutter is no need to ndis it every time something big like a kernel changes, much more reliable too
[02:25] <dr_willis> kajo,  the unetbootin tool can do that  also. :)
[02:26] <kajo> dr_willis, what can it do? make a DSL boot stick? ;P
[02:26] <kevin_405> bazhang, but dont know how to resolve the conflict.. if i have b43 then b44 required by eth0 does work
[02:26] <Weems> bahang: did you fix it somehow?
[02:26] <dr_willis> kajo,  yes.. :)
[02:26] <nbeebo> how do i download packages that start with ttf?
[02:26] <dr_willis> kajo,  and many other disrtos as well
[02:26] <panfist> what command will list all the drivers that are loaded?
[02:26] <fryguy> panfist: lsmod
[02:27] <bazhang> kevin_405, not sure about the conflict, which eth card you have? lspci to paste.ubuntu.com if you cant find it
[02:27] <bruenig> lsmod doesn't list all of them just modules
[02:27] <raylu> fryguy: some drivers may not be kernel modules
[02:27] <bruenig> some modules of course may be compiled into
[02:27] <fryguy> raylu: example?
[02:27] <panfist> thanks fryguy and raylu
[02:27] <raylu> fryguy: um...almost all of them *can* be compiled into the kernel
[02:27] <bazhang> Weems, which version of ubuntu are you using
[02:27] <panfist> so i see some drivers and i want to unload them, how can i unload them and remove them
[02:27] <raylu> fryguy: though ubuntu wisely chooses to compile almost all of them as modules instead
[02:27] <fryguy> raylu: example of one in ubuntu that is compiled in?
[02:27] <kajo> genii, ActionParsnip, I desided to go ahead and print the paritions with "p" before I ran "a"... and I see a really mix-mash group of stuff, 4 partitions or so it looks like. I expected there to be only one, I just wiped this drive a few minutes ago and then extracted an iso's contents to it.
[02:28] <kajo> is this normal?
[02:28] <raylu> fryguy: i wouldn't know. you could download the linux-image src and use "make makeconfig" to find out, i believe
[02:28] <grdnwsl> has anyone else in here had problems printing more than one copy of a document in Intrepid?
[02:28] <kajo> dr_willis, I've never heard of such a program... how does it work?
[02:28] <fryguy> raylu: do you think that there are any non-trivial drivers compiled into the kernel?
[02:28] <raylu> fryguy: probably not, but, again, i'm not sure
[02:29] <genii> kajo: This is a hard drive or some usb stick, or what? I wasn't here at the beginning of this saga
[02:29] <kajo> genii, usb stick
[02:29] <tsrk> I installed xorg and Fluxbox on top of a server installation and when I start up Fluxbox the mouse appears but won't move at all.  Any ideas why?
[02:29] <raylu> panfist: you don't want to do that
[02:29] <Weems> bazhang: 8.10
[02:29] <kajo> genii, trying to make a liveboot dsl stick.
[02:29] <panfist> what is the proper way to install drivers in linux? the instructions on the site tell me to just sync with the repo and make, make install, modprobe. then i was running into the trouble and the solution was to remove all old drivers before proceeding
[02:29] <kajo> 1gig.
[02:29] <genii> kajo: It's unusual but not imposiible for it to have multiple partitions.
[02:29] <dr_willis> kajo,  works about the same as the usb-boot-disk tool in 8.10 - use the one in 8.10 if you want to make a Ubuntu boot thumbdrvie - it works very well..
[02:29] <dr_willis> bbl
[02:29] <raylu> panfist: what driver?
[02:30] <kajo> dr_willis, I've never used higher than the 8.04 I'm on now, nor do I intend to move beyond this LTS until next one comes around.
[02:30] <nbeebo> how do i download packages that start with the lettes 'ttf'?
[02:30] <panfist> ivtv, v4l-dvb, whatever you want to call it
[02:30] <bazhang> Weems, keep in mind not all mkv will work. if you have all the codecs known installed and it still wont run, then it may never run. something to consider
[02:30] <panfist> i have a hauppauge hvr-1600 which only has support in the ivtv mailing list and they wont answer questions unless you are using the bleeding edge driver
[02:30] <bazhang> nbeebo, which packages
[02:30] <kajo> genii, I guess I'll just type in "a" and come back when/if it fails.
[02:30] <fep> bazhang, no, i installed all vlc things, it also quits when i start a movie
[02:30] <Abdie_26> ihink
[02:30] <nbeebo> bazhang, ttf-fonts
[02:30] <panfist> the developer is basically the only one providing support beyond the most basic questions
[02:31] <kajo> genii, when I type in "a" it asks what partition I want to flag bootable: 1-4. :? Any ideas?
[02:31] <bazhang> fep, just this particular file or all video in your possession
[02:31] <fep> all my video
[02:31] <raylu> panfist: i have no familiarity with that, sorry. also, i'll be right back, but you'll need to provide the channel with more specific errors
[02:31] <kevin_405> bazhang, will do give me a few min i need to reboot to make wlan0 permenent..
[02:31] <NimalaysiaHere> i try to install JDK , but get error when i run "sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun".
[02:31] <bazhang> nbeebo, apt-cache search or go into synaptic and search then mark for installation
[02:31] <NimalaysiaHere> i try to install JDK , but get error when i run "sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun". any help ???
[02:31] <genii> kajo: You said you wiped out the other 4 partitions? If so did you yet make at least 1 new one
[02:31] <nbeebo> bazhang, oh yeah forgot i can use synaptic, only did by the cli, thanks
[02:32] <bazhang> fep, you have compiz running? how much ram and what other apps you have open
[02:32] <kajo> genii, I just wiped the drive in general and then reformatted as fat32...
[02:32] <fep> hmmm, i am running compiz, yes
[02:32] <NimalaysiaHere> i try to install JDK , but get error when i run "sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun". anyone can help ???
[02:32] <fryguy> kajo: using fat32 is almost certainly the wrong choice
[02:32] <fep> bazhang, i dont think i have too much open
[02:32] <genii> kajo: Interesting improvisation
[02:33] <bazhang> fep, that is a big culprit for eating up ram, may want to get fusion icon to switch on and off when not watching movies
[02:33] <kajo> fryguy, but I want it to be able to be read by windows machines. Why is that a bad choice?
[02:33] <bazhang> kajo, use ntfs
[02:33] <kajo> fryguy, isn't that a good choice if I want to use Qino's within windows option?
[02:33] <panfist> my errors were in the usage of the device driver, the hardware functionality was broken. that's a driver issue. in order to get to the bottom of the driver issue i need to install the drivers cleanly and properly, i think. i just reinstalled ubuntu and i am getting ready to install the driver from scratch, and i want to make sure it goes alright
[02:33] <fep> bazhang, fusion icon ?
[02:33] <fep> how?
[02:33] <kajo> Qemo, or whatever it is...
[02:33] <bazhang> fep, it is a applet that lets you turn compiz on and off from your panel
[02:34] <panfist> there is an ivtv driver built into the kernel...do i need to do anything to it before i compile and install the new driver?
[02:34] <kajo> bazhang, I'm not hugely familiar with the carious kinds of formatting... what are the pros/cons of nfts vs fat32?
[02:34] <genii> kajo: You're trying to make a live-boot usb stick which runs linux but is on fat32?
[02:34] <fep> bazhang, i understand, but how do i get that switch in my panel?
[02:34] <bazhang> kajo, file limit size for the latter
[02:34] <kajo> genii, yes. Have I made a grave error?
[02:34] <kajo> bazhang, I have only a 1gig stick.
[02:34] <fryguy> kajo: use ntfs
[02:34] <bazhang> kajo, this is a usb stick? thought it was a shared hdd
[02:35] <kajo> bazhang, no, it's a usbstick I'm trying to make into a DSL liveboot.
[02:35] <bazhang> kajo, a bootable pen drive with puppy linux?
[02:35] <kajo> DSL, not puppy @ bazhang
[02:35] <Weems> bahang: I tried another video and the sound didnt work either
[02:35] <bazhang> err damn small linux?
[02:35] <genii> kajo: This may work with some booting systems like syslinux. But you're better off to use pure ext2/3 for your linux boot partition and a bootloader, then make some fat partition which to share from, or else use samba if the windows box is another machine than the one you're using the stick on
[02:36] <Weems> bazhang: It was a /mp4 this time
[02:36] <kajo> genii, I am using syslinux.
[02:36] <Weems> .mp4*
[02:36] <thomasite> Hello. Firefox just froze. I'd been repeatedly trying to close it but to no avail. How can I close it using perhaps another method? Thanks!
[02:36] <fryguy> thomasite: launch xkill and use that, or use the kill command
[02:36] <kajo> also, I don't fully understand what you just described... sounds like fancy footwork in the partitioning field. @ genii
[02:36] <thomasite> So I just type
[02:37] <thomasite> xkill on the terminal? or kill (something)?
[02:37] <fryguy> thomasite: either or
[02:37] <bazhang> Weems, did you set the sound in prefs from autodetect to alsa ; did wine capture your sound card? what else do you have running at the same time : youtube videos?
[02:37] <snarkster> has anyone used the beta of timekpr?
[02:37] <kajo> fryguy, why does xkill work so well? Random curiousity, xkill never seems to fail me, and is more immediate than any other method.
[02:37] <genii> kajo: I think you should probably visit http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ and follow one of the tutorials ont he botom right for whatever kind of live boot or persistent install system  you want
[02:37] <Weems> bazhang: no youtube videos
[02:37] <Weems> I had skype running
[02:38] <kajo> genii, I actually have a page open fron pendrivelinux, and a link from that page led me to the tutorial I am now using.
[02:38] <fryguy> kajo: xkill sends a different signal to the window
[02:38] <bazhang> Weems, then that is the problem most likely
[02:38] <kajo> genii, unfortunately, their instructions involve installing from a windows machine.
[02:38] <thomasite> It didn't work :(
[02:38] <bazhang> skype tends not to play well with others
[02:38] <fryguy> thomasite: so then use the kill command, will probably have to sigkill it (-9)
[02:38] <kajo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6390352#post6390352 that is where my current list of sources is.
[02:38] <Etherael> is there a way to stop automounting under ~/.gvfs and mount under /mnt instead? annoying to try and access files in mounted filesystems when all mounted filesystems are under a hidden directory.
[02:39] <thomasite> I'll type in "sigkill" ? or just "kill" ? there are options to go with the kill command. i'm confused. :(
[02:39] <fryguy> Etherael: you shouldn't be manipulating .gvfs manually
[02:39] <Weems> bazhang: I closed skpe and it doesnt work. heres the aplay -a
[02:39] <Weems> http://www.pastebin.ca/1288265
[02:39] <Weems> skype*
[02:39] <Etherael> fryguy, Why not?
[02:39] <fryguy> thomasite: use kill, and if that doesn't work, use kill -9.  read the manpage
[02:39] <genii> kajo: This one for instance http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/11/01/ubuntu-810-install-using-the-built-in-usb-installer/          is  not done from Windows but from a Linux livecd
[02:39] <Etherael> is it a mounted filesystem or is it not?
[02:39] <georgeasott_1> hi. i installed ubuntustudio from synaptic and now i cant login.  cant ctrl alt F1 or anything either
[02:40] <fryguy> Etherael: it's a virtual filesystem
[02:40] <fryguy> (the v in gvfs)
[02:40] <grdnwsl> I'm having a problem where I am unable to print more than one copy of a document unless I have the collate option checked in the print dialog.  I'm using Intrepid, but did not have this problem under any previous releases of Ubuntu.  Has anyone else experienced this issue?
[02:40] <Etherael> fryguy, so I should scrap it and just use smbmount / nfs whatever if I actually want to really use it like a real filesystem and .gvfs is just there for pose value?
[02:40] <kajo> genii... I feel like I'm just getting more confused as this goes on. Why can't I just use FAT32, since I'm using syslinux as the tutorial I am following on DSL's wiki prescribes?
[02:41] <fryguy> Etherael: what exactly are you doing that makes you think you need to be using .gvfs
[02:41] <bazhang> kajo, dsl has a channel; why are you asking in #ubuntu
[02:41] <kajo> @ genii, fryguy, under the instructions for converting an iso to usb install: "Mount USB drive, with e.g. mount /dev/sdx1 /flash - can be either FAT16 or FAT32"
[02:41] <m1dn1ght> Can anyone think what kind of problem would literally make time slow down on my PC?  I've posted on the forums if anyone can help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014087
[02:41] <Etherael> fryguy, I have a codebase under windows on a vm that I want to edit files on and keep under RCS with git, so I just use the VM to run IIS and otherwise forget about it, and run jEdit / git on my linux desktop to actually do work.
[02:42] <fryguy> kajo: you didn't tell anybody before that you were using a usb drive. so just use it
[02:42] <genii> kajo: fat32 to install linux on is a bad idea because linux file ownership and permissions etc cannot get preserved. Also it is not the native filesystem of the operating system.
[02:42] <fryguy> Etherael: so use samba
[02:42] <kajo> fryguy, I've repeatedly said, from the beginning and throughout, that this was a usbdrive.
[02:42] <Etherael> fryguy, it seems work fine when I just cd into the directories under .gvfs and treat it like a real filesystem, like I was able to git init git add git commit and also jedit all my source files.
[02:42] <kajo> bazhang, I guess this is the only support channel I've ever used, as I use ubuntu solely. I'm installing it using ubuntu, also, but I can see merit in trying theirs as well...
[02:43] <bazhang> kajo, how does this relate to ubuntu
[02:43] <Etherael> fryguy, why does "connect to server" use gvfs if it's a better idea to use samba?
[02:43] <fryguy> Etherael: why not just run git on windows and remote branch?  pretty offtopic but whatever
[02:43] <josinalvo> hi there. I *think* i just created a 8.10 live pendrive with persistent mode. Do I need any boot option to actually use persistent mode, or is it just boot, write stuff and shut off ?
[02:43] <kajo> bazhang, this is also not related to DSL itself, these are basic linux questions from an ubuntu perspective. The fact that it is DSL is almost irrelevant... it could be any liveboot.
[02:43] <Etherael> fryguy, cause then I'd actually have to use windows to do the RCS instead of what I do now which is just run the server in the background and just use it as a server only and otherwise forget about it.
[02:43] <fryguy> Etherael: it isn't a better idea.  gnome needs a way to dynamically create mounts to display to a user in nautilus, and so it uses a hidden directory called .gvfs for that purpose.
[02:44] <magnetron> kajo→ we can't help you with DSL, but i'm sure that the DSL community can
[02:44] <mylogic> I'm trying to install the newest version of the JRE and downloading it from their site. Do I want the rpm.bin or just the .bin for my ubuntu box? O.o
[02:44] <genii> josinalvo: So long as you have a writable partiton or area with volume name of casper-rw then it should use it automatically to save changes to
[02:44] <fryguy> mylogic: just the bin
[02:44] <kajo> genii, I guess that sounds like reason enough. I don't know, then, why the wiki on dsl's official site says it should be fat16 or fat32... I think I'll just switch and try unetboot or whatever was stated. I'm just given conflicting information. :\
[02:44] <Etherael> fryguy, So in what sense is an smb filesystem mounted under ~/.gvfs/ via fuse.gvfs different to an smb filesystem mounted using smbmount under /mnt? different drivers?
[02:45] <kajo> genii, thanks for your help, also fryguy  and Action Parsnip
[02:45] <mylogic> fryguy: thanks, what's the difference though?
[02:45] <fakereality> Can someone tell me how to fix those UGLY font problem in XMMS (in the menus) ?
[02:45] <fakereality> It's totally unreadable
[02:45] <fryguy> Etherael: one, it's fuse, two, it's permissions are different, 3 it's non-persistent
[02:45] <fryguy> mylogic: rpm is packaged for rpm-based systems
[02:45] <fryguy> mylogic: btw you are most likely going to break ubuntu doing what you want to do, but good luck
[02:45] <giacomo> hellp
[02:45] <mylogic> grrr
[02:45] <hero77> ciao a tutti
[02:46] <hero77> ci siete?
[02:46] <josinalvo> genii: should it use this writable area to changes on / (like installing apps) or just for my personal files in /home ?
[02:46] <Etherael> fryguy, Non persistent? ... if you make changes to the filesystem while it's mounted under fuse, they persist after unmounting, so I can only assume you mean you have to remount it every reboot or something manually?
[02:46] <koshari> fakereality xmms, they still developing that? i thaught everyone had moved on to its fork audacius
[02:46] <fryguy> fakereality: xmms is old and very deprecated and hasn't been developed on in years, and uses a very old graphics toolkit.  I'd recommend using something else
[02:46] <mylogic> fryguy: I need to have atleast the _2 revision and ubuntu just has the _0 build... is there anyway to safely upgrade to at least revision 2?
[02:46] <fryguy> Etherael: if you restart gnome it's gone
[02:46] <fryguy> Etherael: the mount that is
[02:46] <kaiser10123> is there channel for banshee?
[02:46] <fryguy> kaiser10123: probably #banshee
[02:47] <Etherael> yeah, that's ok, considering it's a virtual machine being mounted anyway it's not going to even be up permanently vis having a permanent mount.
[02:47] <kaiser10123> that doesnt work
[02:47] <fryguy> kaiser10123: or visit their website and check out the community link and see what they have to say
[02:47] <Etherael> so really the answer just seems to be "it's being mounted using fuse instead of smbfs, but it works anyway"
[02:47] <genii> josinalvo: As I understand, it will save whatever changes are made. How exactly this works, I do not know the mechanics of. But you can install and remove apps, so it seems all filesystem changes and not just local ones
[02:47] <dublpaws>  kaiser10123 i think it's at irc.gnome, or wherever the gnome folks reside
[02:47] <fakereality> fryguy: I want to use it to connect to my shoutcast server.
[02:48] <fryguy> Etherael: right.  It has to get mounted somewhere so that gnome programs can manipulate the mounted files.  Gnome handles the mounting for you
[02:48] <giacomo> I would like to ask you how can I reinstall the file "/etc/init.d/laptop-mode" trough apt-get, I've tried with apt-get install --reinstall laptop-mode-tools (this is the package that should contain that file) but has been useless. I've also tried to move away the laptop-mode file somewhere and reinstall the package, but no success. Do I have to unpack the deb manually and replace the file?
[02:48] <Etherael> fryguy, OK, so can I tell gnome to mount it somewhere else?
[02:48] <fryguy> Etherael: if you want to handle the mounting yourself, use the standard mechanisms (mount, smbmount, fstab, etc)
[02:48] <fryguy> Etherael: no idea, i don't use gnome
[02:48] <jtaji> fakereality: try audacious instead
[02:48] <fryguy> fakereality: there are plenty of music players that will connect to internet streams
[02:48] <Etherael> ok, so back to the original question, does anyone know how to change the mount location for remote filesystems in gnome?
[02:49] <n8tuser> Etherael-> where is it mounted now?
[02:49] <Etherael> ~/.gvfs
[02:49] <dublpaws> there's a neat program called sshfs that mounts filesystems over ssh.
[02:49] <n8tuser> Etherael-> are you sure?  can you post in pastebin your mount points ?
[02:50] <Etherael> n8tuser, quite positive, the relevant line is single so I'll just post it here gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/eric/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=eric)
[02:51] <fakereality> thank you guys, audacious works just fine and it has nice skin :)
[02:51] <n8tuser> Etherael-> thats the contents of your fstab?
[02:51] <Etherael> it sucks for access to the filesystems under .gvfs because any program that doesn't display hidden directories by default you have to manually enter the complete path.
[02:51] <chairman> hello guys..i have a built in webcam on a HP Pavilion dv6000 aand its not showing a cam picture on Ibex
[02:51] <chairman> Any suggestions
[02:51] <fryguy> n8tuser: he's not using fstab, he's relying on gnome to dynamically mount things for him using gvfs
[02:51] <chairman> it worked ok before
[02:51] <nathan_> how do i get my graphics card to work on ubuntu
[02:51] <nathan_> ?
[02:51] <Etherael> n8tuser, that's the output from mount after the gvfs has been already mounted from within gnome using the "connect to server" dialog
[02:52] <fryguy> nathan_: you install drivers for it, and optionally change settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:52] <n8tuser> let me digest that..
[02:52] <m1dn1ght> Can anyone think what kind of problem would, quite literally, make time slow down on my PC?  I've posted on the forums if anyone can help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014087
[02:52]  * giacomo asks for a gentleman who may answer his question
[02:53] <Etherael> when you click "connect to server" in gnome, it gives you a large dialogue that has a bunch of different server options that you want to connect to, it then mounts the remote filesystem you just gave it the details for under .gvfs in your home directory
[02:53] <nathan_> what drivers do i install for it?
[02:53] <Etherael> and when you access the bookmark you created again after logging out, it remounts it.
[02:53] <Etherael> and so on, and so forth.
[02:53] <fryguy> nathan_: nobody knows what video card you have
[02:54] <greencookie> how do I stop gdm from starting up automatically? I wanna start up into tty (so that I can remove gdm and gnome desktop)
[02:54] <Etherael> greencookie, alt-ctrl-f1 to go to a tty.
[02:54] <fryguy> greencookie: just switch to a vty, and then /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:54] <greencookie> I remember I had to run some command to delete some startup commands from init.d
[02:54] <nathan_> i hane an ATI gforce 5500
[02:54] <greencookie> fryguy: Etherael does this allow me to remove gdm permanently?
[02:54] <fryguy> nathan_: that card doesn't exist
[02:54] <fryguy> greencookie: sure
[02:55] <Etherael> greencookie, yo ucould remove gdm permanently from x just by removing it from the add/remove programs dialogue.
[02:55]  * \\`oot is freaking out about his Samba shares not mounting
[02:55] <Etherael> or apt-get remove gdm probably.
[02:55] <greencookie> ok ill try.. brb
[02:55] <nathan_> oh sorry its nvidia
[02:55] <ninly> i think you need to use tasksel for gdm
[02:55] <nathan_> got 5 comps got mixed up
[02:56] <Etherael> .gvfs is fine, everything about the setup is fine, it's just mounting it in a stupid place (hidden directory) in home dir, and I just want to change that.
[02:56] <chairman> still doing the same ..no picture from webcam
[02:57] <fakereality> I need help again. How can I stream to shoutcast server with audacious?
[02:57] <josinalvo> genii: I'm going to create the partition by hand. Does it need to be ext-something ?
[02:58] <nathan_> does anyone know what drivers i need for my graphics card? its nvidia gforce 5500
[02:58] <chairman> i want it o show streaming videos as well what it use to do
[02:58] <panfist> i am in the middle of installing v4l-dvb drivers. including with the driver is a script "unload." I am getting an error during this script that modules are in use. how can i cleanly remove all of these drivers so that this unload script gives me no errors: ERROR: Module compat_ioctl32 is in use by cx18
[02:58] <fryguy> nathan_: the nv driver is installed by default and should work, and the binary nvidia driver from restricted modules should work (if it can be used, you should be prompted to use it after you installed)
[02:59] <nathan_> how do you know if its working?
[02:59] <fryguy> do you see a desktop?
[02:59] <koshari> panfist sudo rmmod <module>
[02:59] <genii> josinalvo: Checking, 1 minute or so
[03:00] <nathan_> desktop will work without graphics drivers....
[03:00] <fryguy> nathan_: no it won't
[03:00] <nathan_> it was working before i put it in the comp
[03:00] <n8tuser> Etherael-> try this  sudo /usr/libexec/gvfs-fuse-daemon /path/to/newmountpoint
[03:00] <EDinNY> A recent update seems to have broken sound on 8.1...any ideas?
[03:01] <\\`oot> Hi - is there a better program out there than Brasero for audio burning?
[03:01] <koshari> nathan_ x will fall back onto some drivers ie, nv or vesa
[03:01] <genii> josinalvo: Yes, ext2 or ext3 should be good
[03:01] <\\`oot> I need to do an over-burn, like the WinXP machine over here
[03:01] <pkd> i am a newbie to python , so which version of python shall i use , "3.0 or 2.5"
[03:01] <koshari> \\`oot k3b
[03:01] <\\`oot> k3b?
[03:01] <\\`oot> thank you
[03:02] <fryguy> pkd: you should use 2.6, and keep in mind the changes that 3.0 is bringing
[03:02] <EDinNY> did anyone else have a sound problem in 8.1 caused by an upgrade?
[03:02] <giacomo> hey guys looks like there's a bug somewere in the default laptop_mode start script in init.d, it hangs somewhere without reaching the echo (start|stop|status ... ), how can I print the error line? do I have to debug manually?
[03:02] <Etherael> n8tuser, that would work, but it won't make it a permanent change, it would just happen while I was in this gnome session, do you by any chance know where gvfs-fuse-daemon actually is started from so I can change that path?
[03:02] <koshari> EDinNY 8.1? you man 8.04.1?
[03:02] <pkd> thank u
[03:02] <EDinNY> koshari: I thought it was 8.1...you think I have 8.4.1?
[03:02] <\\`oot> Can anyone guess at WHY the regular Samba connector wouldn't work??
[03:03] <Etherael> Eh, you know I'm thinking maybe just ln -s ~/.gvfs /mnt/gvfs might be the best idea.
[03:03] <\\`oot> Places >> Connect to server
[03:03] <greencookie> woot:)
[03:03] <koshari> EDinNY i dont know what you have , but i do know theres no 8.1, now go cool off in the east river
[03:03] <keystr0k> Does any know of a program like Basket Notes?
[03:03] <greencookie> now I have to figure how to connect to a wireless network with wpa using only the tty
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> koshari Please tone it down and be polite.  He may mean 8.10
[03:03] <Etherael> n8tuser, That worked and seems to be the most low impact approach, thanks for your assistance anyway
[03:04] <keres> in the last line of fstab, when adding a new HDD, what do i put for the mount point?
[03:04] <warrior_du_dead> any good themes for Ubuntu 8.04
[03:04] <warrior_du_dead> viz. Noddy
[03:04] <warrior_du_dead> or any other for that mater
[03:04] <machetemike> Hey got a question, when using firefox and trying to watch streaming video at first it didn't show up at all, and usually firefox says what plugins are needed, and it isn't doing it, so I reinstalled flash and I get the play/pause buttons, but nothing happens or the first frame freezes, any ideas?
[03:04] <Alpert> For 6 hours, I've been trying to get my wireless internet to work. I found the driver needed, and I installed it, but I don't know where to go to click connect for wireless internet. Please help. I'm frustrated and tired.
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> keres Whatever you create as the mount point manually
[03:04] <koshari> warrior_du_dead go to gnome look and make up your own mind
[03:04] <greencookie> fryguy: do you know how to completely remove gnome? i did this earlier and there was a really easy way cuz a site had all the commands that I needed to run..
[03:04] <warrior_du_dead> i went to gnome look
[03:04] <n8tuser> Etherael-> look in the gnome dir  after you have  launch  gconf-editor
[03:05] <dva5912> Im becoming a dj of an online radio station but in order for me to do that i need some sort of broadcasting tool. I looked at SAM broadcaster fro wine but its ranked Garbage. Is their anything else with ubuntu besides internet DJ which i can not figure out that will broadcast?
[03:05] <OxB001> anyone using NetworkManager to manage VPN connections?
[03:05] <koshari> warrior_du_dead did you see a theme you like?
[03:05] <n8tuser> Etherael-> btw, those are 8.10 features and not available for older gutsy which i have
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> keres sudo mkdir /media/pickaname
[03:05] <warrior_du_dead> and i downloaded a night clear theme
[03:05] <keres> Jack_Sparrow: it says i don't have privelages to mount it when i do /media/windows
[03:05] <fakereality>  I need help again. How can I stream mp3s to shoutcast server with audacious?
[03:05] <Alpert> Or if someone can help me in a query
[03:05] <warrior_du_dead> I downloaded and dragged it into the appearance theme got installed
[03:05] <josinalvo> genii: k, thanks.
[03:05] <Alpert> Please
[03:05] <warrior_du_dead> but no new wall paper
[03:06] <warrior_du_dead> only the window settings got implemented
[03:06] <koshari> Alpert sys? wifi chipset? security? drivers?
[03:06] <onetb> I can't mount things automatically and my fstab looks fine.  when I plug in an  external, it says I have to be superuser
[03:06] <EDinNY> koshari: there is no 8.10?
[03:06] <keres> Jack_Sparrow: here is my fstab http://pastebin.com/m63e735b9
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> warrior_du_dead most of those themes are not complete,
[03:06] <Alpert> Koshari: can we talk in a query?
[03:06] <warrior_du_dead> also there are gtk 1.0 gtk 2.0 GNOME so many options
[03:06] <keres> what is wrong with it?
[03:07] <koshari> EDinNY yes there is, its the latest realease
[03:07] <EDinNY> koshari, an upgrade seems to have broken my sound...just wondering if anyone else has had this problem
[03:07] <keres> Jack_Sparrow: changed: http://pastebin.com/m6b67064b
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> http://pastebin.com/d24181344
[03:08] <onetb> ﻿I can't mount things automatically and my fstab looks fine.  when I plug in an  external, it says I have to be superuser.  i can sudo mount no problem
[03:09] <Magilla> I'm having some issues with sound: after I leave my computer on for several days, it stops working. I'm using Ubuntu 8.10. Rebooting fixes the issue. Has anyone seen this, or know what to do?
[03:09] <kajo> Ok, so my attempt at a liveboot didn't work. Does anyone have any idea of how to install Damn Small Linux as a liveboot to a 1 gig USB stick? I've exhausted all resources I can find...
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> keres I was only waiting here while d/l my mail so I cant stay to help for long
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > kajo
[03:09] <keres> ok
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> onetb look at permissions on your mount point
[03:10] <onetinsoldier> keres: hello. i just got back how's it going?
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> keres Did you see my change
[03:10] <EDinNY> Magilla: There was recently an upgrade of sound...and it seems to have broken mine
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> hey onetinsoldier , glad yo are back..
[03:10] <\\`oot> Can someone help me figure out why I can't mount a samba share, please?
[03:10] <kajo> Jack_Sparrow, I'm having trouble doing this from within an ubuntu system. I'm not asking how to install DSL to a stick from windows, but from Ubuntu.
[03:10]  * \\`oot beats his head against the desk
[03:10] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: hey Jack_Sparrow :-)
[03:10] <Magilla> EDinNY: this has been happening to me since 8.10
[03:10] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[03:10]  * EDinNY is set to go back to 6.10
[03:11] <keres> Jack_Sparrow: no, where is it?
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> kajo Still doesnt matter, helping you install dsl is noit a ubuntu issue
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> http://pastebin.com/d24181344
[03:11] <dva5912> Im becoming a dj of an online radio station but in order for me to do that i need some sort of broadcasting tool. I looked at SAM broadcaster fro wine but its ranked Garbage. Is their anything else with ubuntu besides internet DJ which i can not figure out that will broadcast?
[03:11] <keres> onetinsoldier: still messing with fstab. just got back too ;)
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> keres that was for you
[03:11] <Alpert> http://pastebin.com/m689b6932 . I'm using a built in chip with dell inspiron B130. I don't know where to go to connect to wireless (I messed up my icon on the main panel for connection)
[03:11] <EDinNY> Magilla: xine has been broken since I did the install...now vlc and mplayer have no sound either
[03:11] <Alpert> Jack
[03:11] <genii> \\`oot: Is the share on: Windows or Ubuntu or Other  and are you trying to mount it from: Windows Linux or Other
[03:11] <Alpert> Jack_Sparrow: Can you help me out?
[03:12] <onetinsoldier> keres: well, i've tried to work on it myself some, but have run into a big issue. you are wanting a regular use to be able to mount it, correct?
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Alpert Sorry, I dont have time to finish what I already started
[03:12] <\\`oot> mounting from Ubuntu 8.10 ... share is from Samba on Gentoo (it's been at least 8 months since I logged into that box though...)
[03:12] <keres> Jack_Sparrow: didn't work
[03:12] <keres> onetinsoldier: yes?
[03:12] <\\`oot> genii: I'm dying here... my XP boxes can mount it all day long, but this Ubuntu machine won't
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> onetinsoldier  look at permissions on the mount point
[03:12] <bonhoffer> so, new to bash, i have a huge directory tree and my bash prompt is _way_ too long -- is there a quick way to shorten it (while still leaving, say, the current directory)?
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> keres did you refresh the list with mount -a
[03:12] <Alpert> Jack_Sparrow: Can you just tell me where to go to connect to wireless internet? I Can't find it. Like the actual place where you click  the connect button and it starts connecting. I know you're busy, but no one has attempted to help me the last 3 times I was here : /
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Alpert NO
[03:13] <onetinsoldier> keres: and you keep getting the message that only root can do that?
[03:13] <genii> \\`oot: Does:  apt-cache policy smbfs                      show that it is installed?
[03:13] <kajo> Alpert, sudo dhclient?
[03:13] <Psi-Jack> Okay, what's adduser -r / --system do? It's not mentioned in the manpage at all.
[03:13] <Alpert> Kajo: what do you mean? I'm new to linux :/ . Sorry
[03:13] <\\`oot> sec
[03:13] <keres> Jack_Sparrow: should i:  /dev/sdb1 /media/windows ntfs-3g force 0 0
[03:13] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: roger... my mount point has permissions that allow anyone to do anything right now
[03:13] <keres> ?
[03:13] <keres> onetinsoldier: should i force it?
[03:13] <\\`oot> heh... Installed: (none)
[03:14] <\\`oot> oops
[03:14] <keres> onetinsoldier: will it format/delete data if i force it?
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> keres no.. is it read only now>?
[03:14] <genii> \\`oot:  There ya go
[03:14] <\\`oot> I just figured... it's in the Places >> Connect to Server so, why would I need to install it separate
[03:14] <keres> Jack_Sparrow: i still can't accesss it.
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> keres It can if there is really something wrong
[03:14] <\\`oot> sudo apt-get install smbfs?
[03:14] <keres> Jack_Sparrow: is it the most safe just to do it in fstab
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> keres force is used when it mounts read only due to a problem.
[03:14] <kajo> Why is Jack_Sparrow telling you "NO"? Did I miss something? .... Alpert, open a terminal and type in "sudo dhclient". It will ask for your password, which you'll have to give. After doing that, if there is any autoconnect, unencrypted wifi around and your wifi card is properly set up, it will seek out and attempt to connect using DHCP to the strongest available network.
[03:14] <\\`oot> and now I feel like Ralphie from the Simpsons... thank you
[03:14] <onetinsoldier> keres: the question is, are you trying to make it so a regular user can mount it? if yes, are you getting the message that only root can 'mount' it?
[03:15] <leigh> i'm having a problem with emerald themes...i open it up and click on the theme i want but nothing happens...is there something i need to do to "activate" the theme or should it active just by clicking on it?
[03:15] <genii> \\`oot: Yes, that is the command.   As for the Q as of why not installed by default, I have no answer, but I am seeing this a lot often for some reason
[03:15] <keres> onetinsoldier: it doesn't say only root can. it just says my user doesn't have privelages
[03:15] <\\`oot> genii: Thank you... thank you, thank you
[03:15] <\\`oot> I've been asking for 2 days now, let's test this now
[03:15] <genii> \\`oot: Heh, you're welcome
[03:16] <critter> question, i have upgraded my desktop to 8 gigs of memory;  it is recognized in the bios, however, when I boot in to ubuntu, the OS is only seeing 3.5 Gigs: Mem:          3519        624       2895   any ideas what's up?  I am running a 64 bit version, so that can't be it: Linux critter-desktop 2.6.27-9-server #1 SMP Thu Nov 20 22:56:07 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:16] <\\`oot> aaah!  Now I can't browse the "Network" for some strange reason
[03:16] <\\`oot> weird
[03:16] <EDinNY> any way to change the configuration of pulseaudio or downgrade to what I was using yesterday?
[03:16] <keres> onetinsoldier: http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotpp6.png
[03:16] <keres> that's the error
[03:16] <onetinsoldier> keres: oh, i see. i wouldn't think that using a force option would hurt it, but i'm not certain. i wonder if the regular user can even force the mount if they wanted to.
[03:16] <bonhoffer> is there any way to copy text from a pdf in ubuntu. xpdf doesn't seem to do it?
[03:17] <Magilla> EDinNY: I found an article that shows you how to go back to ALSA
[03:17] <genii> \\`oot: If you know IP of te samba share, see if:    smbclient -L //x.x.x.x                    shows anything
[03:17] <keres> onetinsoldier: then should i force it?
[03:17] <Magilla> EDinNY: I'm just not sure whether it's trustworthy
[03:17] <leigh> can anyone help me with emerald?
[03:17] <\\`oot> genii: Still with the "Failed to mount windows share"
[03:18] <onetinsoldier> keres: i get a blank page for that image link, just fyi
[03:18] <\\`oot> genii: Sec
[03:18] <keres> :S
[03:18] <Magilla> EDinNY: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/alsa-instead-of-pulseaudio-for-ubuntu-810-intrepid-a-non-destructive-way/
[03:18] <bonhoffer> is there another a good pdf editor
[03:18] <\\`oot> how do I change the name with which I'm connecting?
[03:18] <Magilla> that's what I found
[03:18] <koshari> Alpert you have a broadcom BCM4318 802.11g wifi chipse
[03:18] <Psi-Jack> Okay, what's adduser -r / --system do? It's not mentioned in the manpage at all.
[03:19] <genii> \\`oot: smbclient has a switch for it... one sec
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> onetinsoldier  I am thinking..  sudo chown userid:userid  -R /to/mydir/dir/
[03:19] <\\`oot> what does this mean: Server requested LANMAN password (share-level security) but 'client lanman auth' is disabled
[03:19] <onetinsoldier> keres: i can't really answer whether you should try to force it or not. that's entirely up to you
[03:19] <EDinNY> Magilla: tnx...still playing with it
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> onetinsoldier  I am thinking..  sudo chown userid:userid  -R /media/hismountpoint
[03:19] <keres> onetinsoldier: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ev3xhg&s=5
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> keres I suggest you not try to force it, although I dont think it will work
[03:20] <bonhoffer> it turns out i could use the mouse to select
[03:20] <keres> Jack_Sparrow: try to chown it first?
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> keres I would
[03:20] <EDinNY> magilla...it seems to use Alsa mixer
[03:20] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok, that one worked
[03:21] <chairman> i need some serrious help
[03:21] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: here is my problem....
[03:21] <keres> Jack_Sparrow: after chown it still doesn't mount
[03:21] <genii> \\`oot: I think that is a LanMan v2 (win2k,XP pre sp3)   versus LanMan v3 (XP post SP3,Vista) protocol difference
[03:21] <onetinsoldier> hello. i followed the tutorial here --> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/03/01/allowing-limited-sudo-access-with-visudo/ in order to try and make it so my regular user could use the mount command. however, i still get the message that 'only root can do that' whenever my regular user tries to use it. here is my line, and i ran 'visudo -c' and it said 'parsed ok'.... onetinsoldier ALL=(root) /bin/mount
[03:21] <Magilla> EDinNY: it replaces PulseAudio with ALSA. Apparently
[03:21] <chairman> my cheese software doesnt work
[03:21] <EDinNY> my problem with sound is that it has been close to 10 years since it has not worked the first time I tried it lol
[03:21] <\\`oot> genii: Is that something that's just not supported for some reason on linux?
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> keres How are you tryint to mount..
[03:21] <EDinNY> Magilla: I seem to have also now
[03:22] <keres> Jack_Sparrow: 'sudo chown keres:keres  -R /media/windows'
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> keres and how did you try to mount it
[03:22] <EDinNY> Magila since it worked before, I don't know what I had...never looked
[03:22] <keres> Jack_Sparrow: and i'm using the fstab you pastebinned
[03:22] <keres> Jack_Sparrow: with fstab?
[03:22] <keres> :S
[03:22] <jikuty> every time i try to access my Documents folder (in my Home folder) in Nautilus, it crashes (along with Conky).. anyone have any idea why this might be occurring?
[03:22] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: but i will try your suggestion
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> keres How are you refreshing the fstab list
[03:23] <keres> Jack_Sparrow: sudo mount -a
[03:23] <FAJ> hello I am running 8.10, using a wifi card with the Chipset Ar5416.  Whenever I boot, the sequence will not go past 'configuring network interfaces' but when i manually cancel this, the boot goes fine.  This worked fine in 8.04.1, and I cannot think of anything to do.  The least I want to do is for the startup to skip this part so that I can boot without having to do anything... thanks.
[03:23] <nathan_> my graphics card works but i cant get the visual effects to work, anyone know why?
[03:23] <MHz128> !fonts
[03:24] <Psi-Jack> So, what does adduser's -r / --system do?    Someone here's gotta know.. It's not documented in the manpage for adduser so it's Ubuntu-specific without properly fixing the manpage to suit. I just want to know what it does so I can determine if that's what I want to use or not.
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> keres why do you still have line 8 in there
[03:24] <fryguy> nathan_: you don't have drivers that have 3d support, or you have a card that isn't supported by those drivers
[03:24] <keres> Jack_Sparrow: line 8? of fstab?
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> keres rem that out
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> keres you have sdb1 in there twice
[03:24] <Cainus> hey... anyone use synergy?  the client keeps crapping out saying "No protocol specified"
[03:24] <genii> \\`oot:No, there would be workarounds somewhere. Anyhow something like: smbclient --user=your-login-name <whatever else here>     is syntax for different username on the share than your current login name on the linux box
[03:25] <genii> \\`oot: Apologies on lag, bit busy here other than the computer :/
[03:25] <\\`oot> yea, I got that, I used the -U <username> switch
[03:25] <keres> Jack_Sparrow: the new line reads '# UUID=B2284CC7284C8BF3 /media/windows/ ntfs-3g noauto,ro,umask=0222 0 2'
[03:25] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: i tried your suggestion, i still get the message that 'only root can do that'
[03:25] <a> Nautilus crashes when I try to read my home directory. It can read other directories with no problem. What has caused this and how do I fix it?
[03:25] <fryguy> \\`oot: also keep in mind when specifing user you'll have to specify workgroup/domain as well typically, so --user=DOMAIN\username
[03:25] <chairman> hello
[03:25] <nathan_> fryguy, how do i diognise the drivers i need?
[03:25] <keres> onetinsoldier: are you getting only root can do that or you don't have privelages
[03:25] <\\`oot> it's not a domain, just a standard samba server
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> onetinsoldier Are you talking keres or another person
[03:25] <FAJ> hello I am running 8.10, using a wifi card with the Chipset Ar5416.  Whenever I boot, the sequence will not go past 'configuring network interfaces' but when i manually cancel this, the boot goes fine.  This worked fine in 8.04.1, and I cannot think of anything to do.  The least I want to do is for the startup to skip this part so that I can boot without having to do anything... thanks.
[03:25] <\\`oot> for a "workgroup"
[03:25] <\\`oot> 2 WinXP, plus this Ubuntu box
[03:26] <onetinsoldier> keres: i'm getting that 'only root can do that'
[03:26] <fryguy> nathan_: you need the binary nvidia driver, it's in the restricted drivers manager, you can also check out envyng to see if that solves your problem
[03:26] <shadow98> what happened to bitchx ...tried doing apt-get install bitchx
[03:26] <nathan_> fryguy, were is the restricted drivers manager located?
[03:26] <genii> \\`oot: Try: sudo smbclient -L a.b.c.d                     type syntax, i always forget when slashes and sudo may or may not be omitted in these commands
[03:26] <fryguy> nathan_: right in the administration menu
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> keres FYI the trailing / after windows on the old line 8 was also a problem for you
[03:27] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: you suggested that i make the mount point owned by my regular user. i was telling i did that and am still getting the message that only root can do that when i try to mount it
[03:27] <fryguy> shadow98: bitchx hasn't been developed for years.  use a more current irc client.  common recommendation is irssi
[03:27] <onetinsoldier> hello. i followed the tutorial here --> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/03/01/allowing-limited-sudo-access-with-visudo/ in order to try and make it so my regular user could use the mount command. however, i still get the message that 'only root can do that' whenever my regular user tries to use it. here is my line, and i ran 'visudo -c' and it said 'parsed ok'.... onetinsoldier ALL=(root) /bin/mount
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> onetinsoldier I didnt realize you were having a similar issue, I thought you were helping keres
[03:28] <\\`oot> same issue
[03:28] <\\`oot> maybe a config file on the client somewhere?
[03:28] <shadow98> fryguy: is that terminal based
[03:28] <nathan_> fryguy, how do i install simplecompiz?
[03:28] <fryguy> shadow98: yes
[03:28] <fryguy> nathan_: no idea
[03:28] <fryguy> nathan_: i don't use compiz at all
[03:28] <riz0n> has anyone here used NX Server on Ubuntu?
[03:28] <genii> \\`oot: Did you mess with the /etc/samba/smb.conf on the client box already?
[03:28] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: ok, roger. i started doing this to try and help keres figure out how to do it..
[03:28] <fryguy> riz0n: why not just ask the question you want to ask, instead of uselessly polling the channel?
[03:28] <shadow98> awesome installing now..
[03:28] <JWFoxJr> is there a way to keep a module from loading when I boot the LiveCD
[03:29] <riz0n> Wow aren't we harsh tonight
[03:29] <FAJ> hello I am running 8.10, using a wifi card with the Chipset Ar5416.  Whenever I boot, the sequence will not go past 'configuring network interfaces' but when i manually cancel this, the boot goes fine.  This worked fine in 8.04.1, and I cannot think of anything to do.  The least I want to do is for the startup to skip this part so that I can boot without having to do anything... thanks.   I have figured out that in sys log it shows that 'wl
[03:29] <shadow98> be back on in irssi
[03:29] <fryguy> JWFoxJr: press f6 and specify whatever boot options you want
[03:29] <\\`oot> genii: No doing that now, brb
[03:29] <riz0n> Ok, since you insist, is it required to run gdm to use NX Server?
[03:29] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: i should say that, my regualr user can type mount and gets a response with what's mounted.. but if trying to actually mount a filesystem, it says only root can do that
[03:29] <keres> onetinsoldier: my current fstab: http://pastebin.com/m254b29ca
[03:29] <fryguy> riz0n: no
[03:30] <Champ> i installed ubuntu and restarted and i had windows boot this is NOT wubi
[03:30] <wnstn> Sansa Clip mp3 not recognized all of a sudden, any ideas? I checked lsusb and it does not show up. Running 8.04 and it used to mount without a problem until today.
[03:30] <riz0n> thanks for the info
[03:30] <JWFoxJr> fryguy: but is there a way to keep a specific kernel module from loading?  I'm booting from a USB cdrom, but the ehci_hcd driver locks up my notebook
[03:30] <fryguy> Champ: then you installed grub to the wrong location
[03:30] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok, cool. i'll check it out. however, does fstab even matter if trying to mount it manually on the command line? i don't think it does
[03:30] <timlarson> 8.10 printing not working, /var/log/syslog has a complaint about refusing suid=7 (lp) rw access to /dev/tty (which is owned by root:dialout) any ideas?
[03:30] <shadow98> fryguy: im in..hehe
[03:30] <fryguy> Champ: or the installer detected hard drives incorrectly and did the wrong thing
[03:31] <timlarson> (that error is for cupsd)
[03:31] <fryguy> onetinsoldier: it doesn't
[03:31] <keres> onetinsoldier: i did 'sudo chown keres:keres  -R /media/windows'
[03:31] <Champ> well how do i fix it i am on windows
[03:31] <ninly> i have a shell script (call it 'scriptname') in my ~/bin that needs to be run as root to work. ~/bin is in my $path, but when i "sudo scriptname", i get a "sudo: scriptname: command not found". I've tried a couple things to make it work, but i don't really understand why it doesn't in the first place ('sudo echo $PATH' returns a listing with the correct dir). Can anyone help explain?
[03:31] <shadow98> ok now for one of the reasons i came..i have a t61p laptop that i am using xubuntu on and i am not able to get the microphone to work in audacity or skype..any ideas..
[03:31] <fryguy> onetinsoldier: if you don't specify one of the mountpoints, it will look in fstab to find the other one, if both device and mountpoint are specified then it won't use fstab
[03:31] <genii> \\`oot: Check that:    lanman auth = yes                         is in there
[03:31] <jtaji> JWFoxJr: add 'blacklist modulename' to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[03:32] <lettus> how to i join on ubuntu BR?
[03:32] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: oh yes.. that's right. i remember now that you say that.
[03:32] <timlarson> the printing worked until I did an update to cupsd tonight
[03:32] <JWFoxJr> jtaji: I'm booting from the LiveCD to install - is there a way to do that with the F6 option?
[03:32] <riz0n> Next question, is there a way to remove the "Hibernate" option from System/Quit?
[03:32] <Champ> fryguy how do i fix the install
[03:32] <fryguy> ninly: your homedir isn't in roots path.
[03:32] <fryguy> !grub | Champ
[03:32] <genii> \\`oot: After you exit:  testparm
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> onetinsoldier this one gives you read, write and 'cd-into' rights for that new directory.sudo chmod u+rwx /media/sdb1/$USER
[03:33] <jtaji> JWFoxJr: I'm sure there is, I don't know it though
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> gotta run, play nice
[03:33] <timlarson> is there a way to undo an update that was done with the Update Manager?
[03:33] <fryguy> timlarson: no
[03:33] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: here is the mount points permissions... drwxrwxrwx 2 onetinsoldier onetinsoldier 4096 2008-12-17 17:34 WinXP
[03:33] <chairman> is there an update or upgrade for webcams?
[03:34] <onetinsoldier> onetinsoldier@maroon-bells:~$ mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/WinXP
[03:34] <onetinsoldier> mount: only root can do that
[03:34] <Lou_> If sudo useradd is used to add a new user, shouldn't that user show up when running the users-admin tool? Adding users does not seem to work for me no matter how I try to do it.
[03:34] <ninly> fryguy: i tried adding 'PATH=$PATH:[dir]' to root's .bashrc and .bash_profile, but with no effect. but i might have added it to the wrong file. where would that need to go?
[03:34] <lettus> #ubuntu-br
[03:34] <greencookie> hi how do I connect to a wpa/wpa2 network via command line? I tried 'sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "essid" key "password" and it didn't work.
[03:34] <fryguy> onetinsoldier: so then become root and do it, like it tells you to
[03:34] <Guest37275> quit
[03:34] <timlarson> why would cupsd be looking at /dev/tty for a usb printer?
[03:34] <keres> Jack_Sparrow: i'm getting a new error now
[03:34] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: i will put the following in again for you...
[03:34] <onetinsoldier> hello. i followed the tutorial here --> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/03/01/allowing-limited-sudo-access-with-visudo/ in order to try and make it so my regular user could use the mount command. however, i still get the message that 'only root can do that' whenever my regular user tries to use it. here is my line, and i ran 'visudo -c' and it said 'parsed ok'.... onetinsoldier ALL=(root) /bin/mount
[03:34] <fryguy> onetinsoldier: the permissions of that directory have nothing to do with your ability to mount
[03:35] <fryguy> onetinsoldier: only root can mount anything, unless the 'user' option is listed in /etc/fstab
[03:35] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: have a look at that tutorial page...
[03:35] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: ... ahh-ha! the user option... ok
[03:35] <\\`oot> genii: Still no dice
[03:35] <\\`oot> weird
[03:36] <\\`oot> I'm googling like a mad-man, but no dice!
[03:36] <derklempner> I don't know if I'm in the right place, but I'm having some problems using Totem with subtitles.
[03:36] <nathan_> were do i get the drivers for a nvidia graphics card?
[03:36] <fryguy> nathan_: i already told you, the restricted drivers manager in the administration menu
[03:37] <budz0r> i just installed a second hard drive and i want redundancy. can i just turn on raid 1 and it work without me losing my data?
[03:37] <fryguy> nathan_: or try envy or envyng
[03:37] <wnstn> nathan_: you can download them from nvidias site, thats where I got mine
[03:37] <EDinNY> Magilla: you would think by now I would just check the sound cable.  lol...fixed
[03:37] <fryguy> budz0r: yes, but you'll need to look into making raid1 bootable
[03:37] <incadudeF> anyone know anything about kismet and the configuration file/
[03:37] <budz0r> fryguy, so it will 'sync' up with the drive that already contains data?
[03:37] <fryguy> budz0r: yes
[03:38] <genii> \\`oot: What does:   testparm -v | grep lanman                     report?
[03:38] <budz0r> because it sounds (in the manual) like it will ruin both drives and i'll have to re-install
[03:38] <Magilla> EDinNY: lol
[03:38] <greencookie> is it possible to connect to password protected wireless networks using iwconfig?
[03:38] <incadudeF> no
[03:38] <incadudeF> you need aircrack
[03:38] <fryguy> budz0r: unless you are using some different raid1 implementation, then it will work
[03:38] <fryguy> greencookie: yes
[03:38] <zzxxzz> How to make the Trash icon change between empty and full? The panel icon always shows empty, and says there is no trash, but clicking the icon opens Nautilus which displays a full icon and the files that have been deleted, and Nautilus shows an empty icon when there are no files contained in ~/.local/share/Trash/files.
[03:38] <fryguy> greencookie: will need to configure wpa_supplicant
[03:38] <greencookie> fryguy: please enlighten me... as always
[03:38] <greencookie> :)
[03:38] <djet13> I think I'm very much lost as to it being my first time on Ubuntu or any Linux OS. I'm attempting to install Compiz, which necessitates X.org. However, the installation guide for X.org is not available on x.org, so I'm attempting to compile it myself, however when I run the ./configure for xorg-server I get a list of about 20 dependencies that it is missing. Am I doing this right or is there an easier way?
[03:39] <keres> onetinsoldier: is thera a risk with force?
[03:39] <\\`oot> genii: I'll paste to a priv window if you'd like?
[03:39] <greencookie> fryguy: so i need to install it?
[03:39] <genii> \\`oot: OK, that will be fine
[03:39] <fryguy> greencookie: should already be installed, you'll need to configured it
[03:39] <onetinsoldier> keres: i doubt it, but i'm not certain
[03:39] <budz0r> thanks :)
[03:39] <fryguy> greencookie: i use wicd so i can't help you
[03:39] <greencookie> fryguy: okay..im doing a 'man wpasupplicant' right now.
[03:39] <wnstn> Any ideas on why my sansa mp3 player isn't recognized all of a sudden?
[03:39] <greencookie> fryguy: wicd? is that a better alternative?
[03:39] <fryguy> greencookie: in my opinion it is
[03:39] <greencookie> fryguy: im using ubuntu with wmii (no gdm)
[03:39] <fryguy> greencookie: use xmonad :/
[03:40] <greencookie> fryguy: i have that too..hold on..ill log infrom xmonad
[03:40] <greencookie> fryguy: is that what ure using? :P
[03:40] <fryguy> greencookie: anyways, take a look at wicd
[03:40] <fryguy> greencookie: yes
[03:40] <greencookie> fryguy: awesome..brb
[03:40] <Ward1983> im reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization , because i wanted to find out how i can do kernel updates on my persistent live system
[03:40] <Ward1983> it states "If you want to customize further the boot process, you can change the livecd kernel, by copying the vmlinuz and initrd you want in place of the ones you find in extract-cd/casper (don't forget to apt-get the right kernel, the one that matches the livecd one, once chrooted into edit)." but what does that mean?
[03:41] <incadudeF> anyone know how to configure kismet
[03:41] <fryguy> incadudeF: #kismet
[03:41] <incadudeF> its empty
[03:41] <fryguy> incadudeF: no it's not
[03:41] <greencookie> fryguy: okay done..im on xmonad :) now installing wicd
[03:41] <fryguy> incadudeF: and besides, this isn't a dumping ground for random linux questions
[03:42] <incadudeF> ok sorry then
[03:42] <Kevin_> Hi Everyone.. I'm looking for advice. I setup an Ubuntu server w/ Apache, MySQL, PHP, and Wordpress. It is running terribly slow - about 10 seconds to load the Wordpress site. I came in here earlier and was recommended to install a PHP accelerator. I just noticed, though, that the RAM is sticking steady at 80% usage and the CPU is going way up and way down. Is this normal?
[03:42] <JWFoxJr> ok, apparently I guess there is no way to blacklist a driver when booting from the livecd.  would it be fair to say that I would have to re-cook the livecd image with the modules blacklisted?
[03:42] <giacomo> do you know how can I discover which processes use my hd while the system is in idle? I need to reduce the IO in idle as much as possible
[03:42] <Kevin_> It has a Pentium 4 w/ 512Mb RAM
[03:42] <greencookie> fryguy: I cant find wicd in the repos..do i have to download and make it ?
[03:42] <fryguy> Kevin_: yes it's normal.  wordpress is slow
[03:42] <fryguy> greencookie: there is a .deb available from their site
[03:43] <incadudeF> do you share your connection with others?
[03:43] <greencookie> fryguy: for now ill stick with wpa_supplicant..:D
[03:43] <Kevin_> fryguy: It is like slow to the point of unusability. Is it really that common for WP to use that much resources?
[03:43] <fryguy> greencookie: you should really look into it.  it's just a simple .deb install
[03:43] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: edits to /etc/fstab have immediate effect, correct?
[03:43] <fryguy> Kevin_: wordpress is very much a resource hog
[03:43] <Tyrath> does anyone know how to get the skype plugin working in bitlbee?
[03:43] <fryguy> onetinsoldier: immediate for future mounts yes.  it won't magically change things that have already been mounted
[03:44] <Kevin_> fryguy: What system specs would you recommend to have a speedy site running?
[03:44] <fryguy> Kevin_: no idea
[03:44] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: roger
[03:44] <huwenfeng> hi all, i am using the Terminal of Ubuntu system to connecting to remote machines. my local locale is all en_US.UTF-8, but the remote host's locale is zh_CN.GBK,   then when i execute some command on the remote machine, the output is with a lot of mess. how can i change this? i do not want change my locale of my whole machine. can i just change the locale of the Terminal , and makes it display chinese correctly???
[03:44] <greencookie> fryguy: i'm new to linux, but i think i will look into installing wicd once i get comforatble on 'make'ing:)
[03:44] <fryguy> greencookie: there is no making.... it's a binary package
[03:44] <FAJ> hello I am running 8.10, using a wifi card with the Chipset Ar5416.  Whenever I boot, the sequence will not go past 'configuring network interfaces' but when i manually cancel this, the boot goes fine.  This worked fine in 8.04.1, and I cannot think of anything to do.  The least I want to do is for the startup to skip this part so that I can boot without having to do anything... thanks.   I have figured out that in sys log it shows that 'wl
[03:44] <fryguy> greencookie: you download the .deb and double click on it (or dpkg -i if you aren't running nautilus)
[03:45] <lettus> #ubuntu-br
[03:45] <w3wsrmn> Kevin_: Which process are chewing up cpu usage?
[03:45] <Tyrath> !ubuntu-br | lettus
[03:45] <ddgoose> giacomo, lsof +D <filsystem_root>
[03:45] <wnstn> Any ideas on why my sansa mp3 player isn't recognized all of a sudden?
[03:45] <Tyrath> lettus: are you looking for #ubuntu-fr?
[03:45] <robbmunson> !br | lettus
[03:45] <greencookie> fryguy: cool..i can do that once i get the http to put into wget:) thank you so much..
[03:46] <Kevin_> w3wsrmn: I gotta write them down - I don't have access to the machine right now. I used the Firefox extension Firebug to test the page and the Index.php file (and all of the PHP files it calls) are taking forever
[03:46]  * genii sips
[03:46] <shavin> I just installed real player on my 8.10. But why is the recorder plugin not working? Is there any alternative to this?
[03:46] <lettus> ubottu, como?
[03:46] <robbmunson> lettus: /j #ubuntu-br por favor, gracias.
[03:47] <lettus> robbmunson, thanks
[03:47] <Kevin_> w3wsrmn: It seems that whenever I have someone access the site the CPU usage peaks to ~80%
[03:47] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: ok, i don't know if you really want to have a close look at this, but i have been playing with things, a little, lot of typingin here mostly, lol. but.. i still have the issuse of 'only root can do that'.
[03:47] <robbmunson> lettus: de nada
[03:47] <robbmunson> sorry guys, ill go back to english now :)
[03:47] <w3wsrmn> Kevin_: Oh, alright. You might also want to try asking in #ubuntu-server when you have the info. Though I doubt wordpress is the cause of your issues.
[03:47] <critter> question, i have upgraded my desktop to 8 gigs of memory;  it is recognized in the bios, however, when I boot in to ubuntu, the OS is only seeing 3.5 Gigs: Mem:          3519        624       2895   any ideas what's up?  I am running a 64 bit version, so that can't be it: Linux critter-desktop 2.6.27-9-server #1 SMP Thu Nov 20 22:56:07 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:47] <ddgoose> critter, you need x64 ubuntu
[03:47] <ddgoose> oh duh
[03:48] <critter> yea, already running 64 bit version, so that can't be it
[03:48] <ddgoose> pays to read both lines :P
[03:48] <critter> it's a pentium d, using EMT64
[03:48] <critter> so that might have issues with greater then 4GB
[03:48] <critter> trying to find info on google
[03:49] <giacomo> thank you ddgoose
[03:50] <FAJ> hello I am running 8.10, using a wifi card with the Chipset Ar5416.  Whenever I boot, the sequence will not go past 'configuring network interfaces' but when i manually cancel this, the boot goes fine.  This worked fine in 8.04.1, and I cannot think of anything to do.  The least I want to do is for the startup to skip this part so that I can boot without having to do anything... thanks.   I have figured out that in sys log it shows that 'wl
[03:51] <n8tuser> FAJ-> remove the entry in /etc/network/interfaces file for your wlan0
[03:51] <FAJ> n8tuser:  it was never there, i just added it and made no difference.
[03:51] <n8tuser> FAJ-> post your interfaces file contents, in pastebin
[03:52] <FAJ> n8tuser: http://pastebin.com/f22b85e37
[03:52] <wnstn> Where should I ask a question about connecting a mp3 player?
[03:52] <FAJ> n8tuser:  it used to have wlan0, but only for one boot up, before that it had none, and the same thing happened.
[03:52] <nathan_> fryguy, i downlaoded the thing you told me too and it still wont work
[03:52] <p3n1x> is there working drivers support for creative x-fi and nvidia 9800 series in 64bit
[03:54] <n8tuser> FAJ-> that interfaces file look okay now
[03:54] <keres> how do you start gimpshow?
[03:54] <keres> how do you start gimpshop*?
[03:54] <FAJ> n8tuser:  i know that when i did it last, it said something about rcS and rc6...
[03:54] <nathan_> my graphics card is working but i cant get my visual effects to work, anyone know why?
[03:54] <n8tuser> FAJ-> also try to remove leases in /var/lib/dhcp3/
[03:54] <riz0n> Hi, is there a way to disable the Hibernate option globally from System/Quit on Ubuntu (8.04)? Thanks.
[03:55] <n8tuser> FAJ reboot and let me know
[03:55] <bruno_> keres_ are u trying to start it with gimpshop
[03:55] <fryguy> nathan_: looks like your card isn't supported with the 3d drivers.  There's some patches floating around the internet that you can try applying, but they will likely not help
[03:55] <sirjoebob> Hey everyone. I use Conky to display some info and need it in a very specific place on the screen. Does anyone know why conk won't remember last window placement?
[03:55] <nathan_> but i had it working before and i rebooted my system
[03:56] <FAJ> n8tuser:  what do you mean?  everything has *.leases.
[03:56] <firefly2442> I just did a clean install of 8.10 and am getting a grub error 2 (I did the clean install to try to fix a grub error 15), I'm thinking it might be a dying HD as they are really old, are there any tools that will rigorously test all 3 HDs off a live-cd?
[03:56] <ddgoose> giacomo, no problem
[03:56] <n8tuser> FAJ-> also try to remove leases in /var/lib/dhcp3/
[03:56] <fryguy> firefly2442: all hard drive manufacturers provide tools for testing their hard drives
[03:56] <fryguy> nathan_: try dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:56] <genii> riz0n: Second or fifth post here  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-440225.html
[03:57] <FAJ> n8tuser: pm?
[03:57] <n8tuser> FAJ nope
[03:57] <blind> How can I make it so that my movies, when double-clicked open in gxine, rather than totem?
[03:57] <acasla> right click, properties...
[03:57] <acasla> open with
[03:57] <FAJ> n8tuser:  i want to make sure i am doing this right:  remove everything with .leases on it?
[03:57] <fryguy> blind: right click on the movie and selection open with and change the default application there, or go to the preferred applications menu and make changes there
[03:57] <n8tuser> FAJ-> zero em out,
[03:57] <blind> oh. gee. thats easy
[03:58] <blind> yeah, i didn't see it under preferred applications
[03:58] <wnstn> is this thing on?
[03:58] <firefly2442> fryguy: does the ubuntu live-cd have anything built in?
[03:58] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  okthis is FAJ, rebooting now
[03:58] <fryguy> firefly2442: nothing as good as the manufacturer tools
[03:58] <ttye0> I've copied my crashed (logically) HD (/dev/sda) to a plain file (dd if=/dev/sda of=/blahfile) One of my partitions (/dev/sda5) was reiserfs and my important data is on it. The issue is it no longer thinks it's a reiserfs AND after the research I've done I don't know exactly how to extract that single partition out of the file
[03:58] <wnstn> fk this
[03:59] <Psi-Jack> First Kiss?
[03:59] <Psi-Jack> No thanks. :)
[03:59] <fryguy> ttye0: you want to pur blahfile onto a new drive
[03:59] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  no same thing happens.
[03:59] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> what happens?
[03:59] <c0l2e> is there a fix now for MF622 / ONDA devices ??
[03:59] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  it stalls on 'configuring network interfaces'
[04:00] <c0l2e> or it still stucked in  usb storage device ignored ??
[04:00] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> hang a sec
[04:00] <FAJALOU> and then when i terminate it says init:  Process killed in rcS  and rcD by TERM
[04:00] <Psi-Jack> ttye0: Hence, why I will never use reiserfs again.
[04:00] <Psi-Jack> I've had the same issues with it.
[04:00] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: ok, guess i'
[04:00] <fryguy> Psi-Jack: any other filesystem would have the same issue in this situation
[04:01] <ttye0> fryguy: I am under the impression I can extract that single partition out of the /dev/sda dump and work from there. Do you know how to extract it if I know where it starts and ends?
[04:01] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: ok, guess i'm getting a little closer...  Unprivileged user can not mount NTFS block devices using the external FUSE library.
[04:01] <Psi-Jack> fryguy: I've seen ext3 in a very immutable state, and STILL recover easily.
[04:01] <fryguy> ttye0: you put it back onto another block device
[04:01] <fryguy> Psi-Jack: it's an entire disk, not a partition.  There's no partition table to look at, so there's no way to determine what partitions are in the file until it's copied to a block device again
[04:02] <Psi-Jack> You can loopback mount it if it's a raw image file.
[04:02] <ttye0> fryguy: I opened it up in a couple things such as parted and fdisk and it sees the seperate partitions
[04:02] <ttye0> Psi, how exactly do I do that? When I tried it, it kept asking about anm FS type,. but all the partitions are different
[04:03] <fryguy> ttye0: right, you need to create a block device for it so that devfs can create the correct block devices for each of the partitions
[04:03] <ttye0> Hm, alright. How do I create a block device?
[04:03] <DarkFuzion> ola ola
[04:03] <fryguy> ttye0: easiest way is to just connect a new hard drive
[04:03] <Psi-Jack> ttye0: From the manpage of mount: mount /tmp/fdimage /mnt -t msdos -o loop=/dev/loop3,blocksize=1024
[04:03] <max_> kajo: you around still?
[04:04] <onetinsoldier> keres: so are you still trying?
[04:04] <keres> onetinsoldier: force worked
[04:04] <Psi-Jack> ttye0: Alternatively you could POSSIBLY mount it through FUSE.
[04:04] <fryguy> Psi-Jack: that works for image files, not hard disk dumps (the hard disk dump has multiple partitions, each of which would be a separate mount point, mount can only mount a single filesystem)
[04:04] <onetinsoldier> keres: roger that, cool
[04:04] <Psi-Jack> Ahhh, yes..
[04:05] <ivo> hi, i'm trying to setup dual monitor on 8.10 - the lcd on the laptop, and vga out. the card is intel 855. the tv i'm connecting the vga to supports wide screen (16:9), and the lappy monitor is 4:3.`When I try to even use the same resolution both on the monitor and tv, and disable the "mirror", after logout/login, it displays background on both, but places the taskbar on the tv (i have put it...
[04:05] <ivo> ...left of the lcd in the setup), and the mouse is locked only on the lapptop, i can not move it on the tv and to check any menu. any idea what i can try?
[04:05] <ttye0> Hm
[04:05] <onetinsoldier> keres: here's the message i'm getting now.. Unprivileged user can not mount NTFS block devices using the external FUSE library. Either mount the volume as root, or rebuild NTFS-3G with integrated FUSE support and make it setuid root.
[04:05] <ttye0> Yeh, it's asing the FS type and since it's the whole hd it isn't mounting it
[04:05] <ttye0> Hm
[04:05] <keres> onetinsoldier: did you force it?
[04:06] <onetinsoldier> keres: nope.. haven't tried or done that yet
[04:06] <ttye0> Sucks to have a dump of a HD and only need one directory off of the whole thing and not be able to get it :)
[04:06] <Psi-Jack> ttye0: Yeah, the only way you could mount it without writing it, is actually quite literally write it to a disk raw back the way it was, or somehow split it up into actual filesystems, but that's practically surgical.
[04:06] <keres> onetinsoldier: and did you try 'sudo chown YOURUSER:YOURUSER media/windows'
[04:06] <onetinsoldier> keres: did you ever get 'that' message?
[04:06] <bullgard4> riz0n: Yes, there is: In ../gnome-panel/panel-logout.c > case PANEL_LOGOUT_DIALOG_SHUTDOWN: delete the "Hibernate" if clause and re-compile.
[04:06] <ttye0> Psi-Jack: I was worried about that
[04:06] <Psi-Jack> ttye0: I never dump the whole HDD, personally. I dump only filesystems, for this very reason.
[04:07] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  anything?
[04:07] <josinalvo> genii: formated ext3, just one partition, and it works fine. Thanks
[04:07] <Psi-Jack> At least with singular partitions, you can put it back onto a partition or loop-mount it, and use it, and growfs or shrinkfs it to fit the partition proper.
[04:07] <keres> onetinsoldier: no. but i did get a longer one when i had all my UIDs and sdb1's commented out.
[04:07] <ttye0> So are you saying, that if I had a HD that was at least that big that wasn't formatted and I used dd to write it to that drive that it would be in tact and I could then dd the partion out that I want?
[04:07] <keres> (i only commented out my UID  for sdb1)
[04:07] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> not yet.. i cant retrieve my old notes
[04:07] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  ok...
[04:07] <Ward1983> anyone experience with persistent ubuntu live boot partitions?
[04:08] <jrib> riz0n: isn't there a gconf key?
[04:08] <Psi-Jack> ttye0: Likely, yes.
[04:08] <Ward1983> with casper-rw and home-rw
[04:08] <tylerwilliams> Hello
[04:08] <onetinsoldier> keres: i get that message whether the 'windows' dir is owned by root or regular user... strange that we are having different messages/responses
[04:09] <keres> onetinsoldier: why not just chown it?
[04:09] <ttye0> Hm,Hm
[04:09] <ttye0> Wish I had another HD then ;p
[04:09] <onetinsoldier> keres: did you read what i said?
[04:09] <CRBS> I want to extract a single file from an RPM, without installing it. How would I do this?
[04:09] <onetinsoldier> keres: i get that message whether the 'windows' dir is owned by root or regular user...
[04:09] <keres> oh
[04:09] <onetinsoldier> keres: that means i used 'chown'
[04:09] <keres> ok
[04:09] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  sorry
[04:09] <ttye0> Wish I could just do: extract -t reiserfs /media/disk/sdabackup -d /home/user
[04:09] <keres> onetinsoldier: what does your fstab look like?
[04:09] <keres> (pastebin it)
[04:10] <LSbTJzgefXMjGRH_> Hi all. there is something wrong with my 'find' command. Is there a way to restore it back ?
[04:10] <tylerwilliams> so, if anyone could help me, i would appreciate it. I have ubuntu server 8.04 lts installed on my desktop, and i am looking to make a partition to install the desktop version of ubuntu 8.10, for more personal use. is there a way i could go about doing that?
[04:10] <CRBS> can I get a file from an RPM without installing it?
[04:11] <keres> CRBS: theres a program out there called 'alien' that converts RPMs to DEBs i think
[04:11] <CRBS> and I can pull out a file from a deb?
[04:12] <keres> CRBS: try this: http://vijayk.blogspot.com/2006/01/how-to-extract-files-from-rpm-and-deb.html
[04:12] <CRBS> thanks
[04:12] <giacomo> hey guys have you read this? It's amazing what will the future be for linux http://lwn.net/Articles/299483/
[04:12] <onetinsoldier> keres: this is the only line in it that matters... /dev/sda1				  /media/WinXP	  ntfs-3g noatuo,ro,user,umask=0222 0	2
[04:12] <onetinsoldier> keres: how do you get the UUID?
[04:12] <fryguy> giacomo: directboot bios' have been around for quite a while
[04:12] <keres> onetinsoldier: change it to NTFS
[04:12] <ttye0> Thanks for your help, I'll see what I can pull off
[04:13] <nbeebo> when u got gnome-panel non fullscreen, u get those ugly "grab-buttons" on each side, is there a way to remove those?
[04:13] <tylerwilliams> i'm having trouble partitioning my HD
[04:13] <Anacranom> onetinsoldier, i have that cmd... its vol.. 1 sec
[04:13] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok... that what i always used to use.. but when i saw yours earlier this evening, i thought i needed to make it ntfs-3g
[04:13] <jrib>  /what
[04:13] <DarkFuzion> onetinsolier: hey man how goes it?
[04:13] <keres> onetinsoldier: sudo blkid
[04:13] <genii> josinalvo: You're welcome
[04:13] <keres> onetinsoldier: ntfs-3g is only loaded when you log in, ntfs is realtime i was told
[04:14] <FAJALOU> n8tuser: did i miss something?
[04:14] <Anastasia> hello, I am on Ubuntu from live Cd, does anyone knows why this doesnt let me create a .rar file and why Nicotine doesnt appear on the apps menu
[04:14] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok, roger.
[04:14] <giacomo> fryguy, what's that?
[04:14] <jrib> !rar | Anastasia
[04:14] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> not yet..
[04:14] <Anastasia> well, this all started when upgrading to 8.10 my pc stopped working
[04:14] <LSbTJzgefXMjGRH_> hi guys when i type the find command and hit enter it gives me a list of my files not usage. Know how to restore my find commannd back to normal
[04:15] <fryguy> giacomo: in reference to the article you just pasted
[04:15] <tylerwilliams> is it possible to make partitions while running ubuntu server?
[04:15] <keres> onetinman: why are you trying to mount sda1? isn't that where your ubuntu install is?
[04:15] <fryguy> giacomo: it's been around for a while
[04:15] <Anastasia> so now, I had to boot from an old Cd to see if I could do backups and later do a clean installation from cd
[04:15] <fryguy> tylerwilliams: sure, but you can't repartition a mounted filesystem
[04:15] <tylerwilliams> ...and that one goes over my head.
[04:15] <tylerwilliams> lol
[04:16] <fryguy> LSbTJzgefXMjGRH_: that is the default behavior
[04:16] <giacomo> fryguy, yes but it looks too amazing to me for not being discovered before ... where's the trick?
[04:17] <fryguy> giacomo: no trick, you just flash your bios with a linux bootloader, and that's it
[04:17] <fryguy> giacomo: assuming you have supported hardware
[04:17] <christian> eh hi, i would like to get the desktop efects in xubuntu, can anybody help me?
[04:17] <keres> onetinsoldier: which partition are you trying to mount? by default, the home partition is sda1 iirc. A secondary hard drive always ended up like sdb* or sda* here
[04:18] <fryguy> christian: #xubuntu
[04:18] <giacomo> fryguy, do you know the name for this?
[04:18] <fryguy> giacomo: you pasted an article to it...
[04:18] <majnoon> !ot
[04:18] <LSbTJzgefXMjGRH_> thanks fryguy...Its working right now. I guess Im having a long day my brain is completely fried hehe :-)
[04:19] <giacomo> fryguy, but it does not talk about flashing bioses
[04:19] <ASULutzy> So something I really ought to know the answer to but don't, how I can change the default to metacity instead of compiz on startup?
[04:19] <tylerwilliams> so how would i go about making a partition for ubuntu 8.10 on a computer running ubuntu server?
[04:19] <ASULutzy> Where is that setting stored? I'm sure I could fiddle with gnome sessions, but
[04:19] <FAJALOU> ASULutzy:  i would install fusion-icoon it makes things easier
[04:20] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  i think it has something to do with rcS.d and rc6.d
[04:20] <fryguy> giacomo: it's mentioned several times on that page...
[04:20] <ASULutzy> FAJALOU: I have fusion-icon, and I can very easily switch back and forth just using compiz --replace etc
[04:20] <ASULutzy> But I want it to startup using metacity instead of compiz, since compiz doesn't like virtual X screen sizes over a certain size
[04:20] <FAJALOU> ASULutzy:  ah.
[04:21] <giacomo> fryguy, the word "bios" is never mentioned in the article
[04:21] <IndyGunFreak> you guys' ever had papa murphy's pizza?
[04:21] <ASULutzy> !ot | IndyGunFreak
[04:21]  * IndyGunFreak oops... wrong channel...
[04:21] <IndyGunFreak> ASULutzy: take a paxil, i as in the wrong channel
[04:21] <Anacranom> lmao
[04:21] <IndyGunFreak> but just so you all know, its awesome.. :)
[04:22] <fryguy> giacomo: the word BIOS is mentioned more than a dozen times on that page
[04:22] <ASULutzy> IndyGunFreak: Sorry, I was used to this channel being helpful and staying on topic
[04:22]  * Anacranom 's hero is IndyGunFreak 
[04:22] <ASULutzy> IndyGunFreak: Guess it's degraded significantly since then :)
[04:22] <FAJALOU> n8tuser: do you think it has something to do with rcS.d
[04:22] <FAJALOU> ?
[04:23] <Anastasia> how can I compress files and save from Ubuntu while I am using the cd to boot?
[04:23] <IndyGunFreak> ASULutzy: and i have no problem w/ that.. other than when its directed at me...
[04:23] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> what is the exact error?
[04:23] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  i dunno because it is during boot up; therefore it's not there.
[04:23] <fryguy> Anastasia: use mount to mount a hard drive and write to that
[04:23] <christian> i tried connecting to #Xubuntu but i dont know how
[04:23] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> look in your /var/log/messages  or syslog
[04:24] <koshari> Anastasia to a usb drive?
[04:24] <giacomo> fryguy, are you ok? the word bios is only present the comments, not in the article
[04:24] <fryguy> giacomo: i said the page, not the article
[04:24] <Anastasia> fryguy, I only have this hard drive, not any external one, can I write on this one_ any change I try to do it says I am not owner and cannot create any .zip .rar or even .tar
[04:25] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  all it says is 'configuring network interfaces' and then lags.  And then after that it says after i kill it it says something along the lines of terminated in rcS.d and rc6.d
[04:25] <Anastasia> koshari, to the same hard drive, internal
[04:25] <ASULutzy> So still the question, does anyone know how to make metacity the default instead of compiz? I'm sure I could add something to gnome sessions via system->preferences->sessions, but I'd really like to just know where the default config is stored
[04:25] <fryguy> Anastasia: what is the filesystem on that hard drive?
[04:25] <koshari> Anastasia you will need to use sudo
[04:25] <giacomo> the point is: without changing the bios they have archived a 5 seconds boot from grub to X
[04:25] <fryguy> ASULutzy: under the appearance menu, disable 3d effects
[04:25] <\\`oot> Hi folks - I just solved (with the help of genii) a HUGE problem with Samba/Lanman connections... is there a wiki I can post the resolution to?  I Googled but didn't find anything
[04:25] <zhujianhua> hello,everyone
[04:25] <nbeebo> when u got gnome-panel non fullscreen, u get those ugly "grab-buttons" on each side, is there a way to remove those?
[04:25] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> there are several scripts in rcS.d/   look for network related
[04:25] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  ok what should i do with it however...
[04:25] <giacomo> if it's possible to make it even faster with a linux bios that's another point, but's not the linked article
[04:25] <onetinsoldier> hi. i saw a little while ago that someone had an issue dealing with ~/.gvfs. I am hoping for some help with it if possible myself. it is automounting my windows drive and i woud like to get rid of that behavior if possible. anyone know how?
[04:25] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  i am inside it right now.
[04:26] <koshari> Anastasia also remember to unmount the drive before rebootong
[04:26] <Anastasia> fryguy, what do you mean_
[04:26] <Neff> do you have to use gparted before the installer partitioner will see your drives running off the install CD?
[04:26] <fryguy> Anastasia: the hard drive you are trying to write to, what filesystem is it
[04:26] <ASULutzy> fryguy: Not what I want, I know how to disable it... Anyway I found it
[04:26] <fryguy> Neff: no
[04:26] <christian> how can i enter the Xubuntu channel
[04:26] <ASULutzy> For anyone who is curious, you can add configuration editor to the gnome menu in system tools
[04:26] <shavin> what can i install to record you tube videos on ubuntu?
[04:26] <ASULutzy> and it's editable through there
[04:26] <Anastasia> fryguy, home
[04:26] <ASULutzy> shavin: youtube-dl
[04:26] <fryguy> Anastasia: .. no what filesystem is it?
[04:26] <Neff> fryguy: why can gparted see my partitions but the installer partitioner can't?
[04:26] <ASULutzy> shavin: sudo apt-get install youtube-dl
[04:27] <fryguy> Anastasia: HFS+? NTFS? Fat32? ext2? ext3? ufs? zfs?
[04:27] <Anastasia> fryguy, I am afraid I dont understand your question
[04:27] <sfuentes> i'm having trouble executing a command under another user. su www -c "echo hello" doesn't work under www but it does work with a different user. any reason why this might happen?
[04:27] <Anastasia> ah!
[04:27] <fryguy> Neff: no idea
[04:27] <Anastasia> fryguy, I have not idea
[04:27] <fryguy> Anastasia: then we can't help you
[04:27] <shavin> ASULutzy: is this a package ? can this be installed from synaptic?
[04:27] <Neff> fryguy: would it be because they are all NTFS?
[04:27] <Anastasia> fryguy, how can I find out_
[04:27] <fryguy> Neff: no
[04:27] <robbiet480> hey anyone ever used lighttpd + nagios on 8.10 server? lighttpd isnt working correctly w/ cgi's
[04:27] <robbiet480> i asked in #lighttpd to no effect
[04:27] <koshari> Anastasialook in gparted
[04:28] <BrunoBB> shavin--> try DownloadThemAll plugin for firefox
[04:28] <ASULutzy> shavin: Yes it is
[04:28] <fryguy> Anastasia: the mount command should tell you, as should mtab, or go look up the operating system documentation for whatever operating system you have installed to see what it uses
[04:28] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  ring a bell?
[04:28] <timlarson> what would be a likely cause for test prints to work from http://localhost:631/printers/PSC_1400_series but not from System->Admin->Printing->(same printer->print test page)?
[04:28] <eldrood> Helllo, I need a little help, I am looking for a program to ubuntu, I want a Contacts program to ubuntu, but I want one with login user name + password offline, Are there any sort of that  program??
[04:28] <ASULutzy> shavin: youtube-dl is a package, very simple to use from command line too, simply youtube-dl http://theaddressofthevideo
[04:28] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> which one?
[04:28] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  all it says is 'configuring network interfaces' and then lags.  And then after that it says after i kill it it says something along the lines of terminated in rcS.d and rc6.d
[04:28] <Anastasia> fryguy, jesus! I have not a single idea what are you talking about...
[04:28] <timlarson> the second way thinks it prints (reports success) but nothing physically prints.
[04:28] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  what to do inside of network?
[04:29] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> network has to be started at boot,
[04:29] <christian> shavin you need to bookmark this
[04:29] <christian> javascript:if(document.location.href.match(/http:\/\/[a-zA-Z\.]*youtube\.com\/watch/)){document.location.href='http://www.youtube.com/get_video?fmt=18&video_id='+swfArgs['video_id']+'&t='+swfArgs['t']}
[04:29] <FloodBot3> christian: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:29] <fryguy> Anastasia: what operating system is installed on your hard drive
[04:29] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  i know that...
[04:29] <jeeaar> hello #ubuntu, is it possible to see .m4v files in ubuntu?
[04:29] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> dig around, am looking aroudn too for hints..
[04:29] <fryguy> jeeaar: sure, any media player will play it with proper codecs installed.  try mplayer
[04:30] <Anastasia> fryguy, I had Ubuntu 8.04 and it was upgrading to 8.10 that the system crashed... so, I suppose the version installed now is 8.10 anyway
[04:30] <Psi-Jack> jeeaar: iTune's proporiatery format?
[04:30] <christian> hey i need to know hot to go to #Xubuntu channel PLEASE, i really need it
[04:30] <Salane> Its not so that way
[04:30] <fryguy> christian: /j #xubuntu
[04:30] <FAJALOU> n8tuser: what am i supposed to do inside of it...
[04:30] <Salane> the ZUne has always been able to play itunes format
[04:30] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> look for hints?
[04:30] <Anacranom> Anastasia, try df -h
[04:31] <christian> where sholud i write that, fryguy?
[04:31] <jeeaar> fryguy: i have mplayer installed. cant play the video, can you suggest a good codec pack?
[04:31] <fryguy> christian: right where you are typing what you are typing now
[04:31] <Anastasia> Anacranom, what is that for_
[04:31] <fryguy> jeeaar: w32codec
[04:31] <FAJALOU> n8tuser: how and where?
[04:31] <Salane> Ubuntu Extras does the trick
[04:31] <eldrood> Helllo, I need a little help, I am looking for a program to ubuntu, I want a Contacts program to ubuntu, but I want one with login user name + password offline, Are there any sort of that  program??
[04:31] <shavin> ASULutzy: I have installed the plugin, how do i use it now?
[04:31] <christian> #Xubuntu
[04:31] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> on any of the rc directory, inside the scripts
[04:31] <Pici> christian: Type: /join #xubuntu
[04:32] <Anacranom> Anastasia, that will show you mount points and file systems
[04:32] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  the rcS.d S40networking script has something that looks close to it.
[04:32] <FAJALOU> but i dunno what to do inside of that!
[04:32] <christian> ok thak u very much
[04:32] <jeeaar> fryguy: source?
[04:32] <Anastasia> Anacranom, now I see, what can I do with that_
[04:32] <fryguy> jeeaar: i think it's in ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:32] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> can you post the log where you see that fault occurs?
[04:32] <fryguy> jeeaar: simple search should find it
[04:32] <greencookie> hi I have serious sound issues in ubuntu (both on kde AND gnome). could someone help me with that? thanks.
[04:32] <Anacranom> Anastasia, open terminal, try df -h and answer fryguy
[04:33] <FAJALOU> n8tuser: no; i have not been able to find it.
[04:33] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> look around in /var/log/
[04:33] <xxuriahxx> need help with handbrake 0.93 when i install it using the deb and try to load it  - it doesnt work
[04:33] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  i did.
[04:33] <eldrood> Helllo, I need a little help, I am looking for a program to ubuntu, I want a Contacts program to ubuntu, but I want one with login user name + password offline, Are there any sort of that  program??
[04:34] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> from here on, am guessing where it can possibly fail at init
[04:34] <Anastasia> fryguy, doing df -h, it shows a list of Filesystems
[04:34] <genii> eldrood: Please wait longer than two minutes before re-asking the same question
[04:34] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  don't know what that means, but changing the usplash timeout to 10 doesn't work.
[04:34] <eldrood> genii: sry
[04:35] <Anacranom> Anastasia, should look like... gvfs-fuse-daemon       19G  9.9G  7.8G  57% /home/wbc/.gvfs     gvfs-fuse-daemon       19G  9.9G  7.8G  57% /home/wbc/.gvfs
[04:35] <giacomo> hey guys wouldn't be intelligent to have an utility that reads the lsmod of a udev auto-configured system and compiles a vanilla kernel with old-config and all the possible modules selected for being compiled into the kernel?
[04:35]  * FAJALOU is thinking of freshly installing hardy...
[04:35] <Anastasia> Anacranom, tmpfs                 221M   16M  206M   7% /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/volat
[04:35] <genii> eldrood: No worries. Every 7-10 minutes to re-ask gives enough time, people who know the answer may arrive, or others may have researched the issue and have an anser for you.
[04:36] <Anastasia> thats the first that appears
[04:36] <greencookie>  /quit
[04:36] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> was this a new install? never worked before?
[04:36] <xxuriahxx> need help with handbrake 0.93 when i install it using the deb and try to load it  - it doesnt work
[04:36] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  no this was an upgrade. kinda kicking myself over it b/c it used to work fine...
[04:36] <fryguy> !work | xxuriahxx
[04:37] <eldrood> genii: Ok thanks, In the future I will rember that
[04:37] <Anacranom> Anastasia, thats your live cd thats running... you want to look for the hard drive
[04:37] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  it has something to do with the new bootup under intrepid.
[04:37] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> does it also stall at shutdown?
[04:37] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  no it shuts down fine.
[04:37] <xxuriahxx> i click on the icon after i install it and it does nothing.
[04:37] <zetheroo> anyone here know how to setup and run Lirc in Hardy?
[04:37] <Anastasia> Anacranom, this_ /dev/sda1             146G  103G   36G  74% /media/disk
[04:37] <xxuriahxx> im running 8.04
[04:37] <Ryno> is it possible to change resolution to a value higher than what my monitor is capable of?
[04:37] <fryguy> Anastasia: df doesn't tell you filesystems. mount does
[04:38] <fryguy> Ryno: if you try hard enough, yes
[04:38] <Ryno> fryguy: try i will
[04:38] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> i could not think of any that may caused it, i have experienced such but i can attribute it to a wpa_supplicant not working
[04:38] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  i do use wpa...
[04:39] <Anacranom> df gives me this header output:   Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[04:39] <Anastasia> fryguy, then what_
[04:39] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  but i also use wicd.
[04:39] <fryguy> Anastasia: then tell us what filesystem you are using
[04:40] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> i am not on 8.10
[04:40] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  ah on 8.04?
[04:40] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> am on 7.10
[04:40] <Ryno> is it possible to change resolution to a value higher than what my monitor is capable of?
[04:40] <fryguy> Ryno: i already told you that you can
[04:41] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  o wow nice.
[04:41] <xxuriahxx> any hep with handbrake?
[04:41] <Anastasia> fryguy, there must be something I could do to know myself, do you know!
[04:41] <FAJALOU> stability ftw
[04:41] <Ryno> fryguy: k could you point me in the right direction
[04:41] <onetinsoldier> hi. my windows partition is being auto-mounted in ~/.gvfs and i would like to get rid of that behavior if possible. anyone know how?
[04:42] <bullgard4> What does 'sxw' stand for as an extension of an OpenOffice.org text document?
[04:42] <fryguy> Ryno: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:42] <Anacranom> Anastasia, in the gui, go to System>Administration>System Monitor and click the tab that says"File Systems"
[04:44] <nintendork32> Night
[04:44] <carandraug> anyone knows how to split one file in several that can be put together into one in windows (like several rar files). I know there's a split command in linux but I don't know how other people that may use windows can open it
[04:44] <Zooback> i've been running ubuntu for years but when i tried making a new install from a shipit live cd, i keep getting a BusyBox error message with initramfs command prompt. how come all of a sudden i can't boot into the graphic installer while i can do this with other linux distros?
[04:44] <Anastasia> Anacranom and fryguy Says> Type ext3
[04:44] <bullgard4> [Solved]
[04:45] <fryguy> Anastasia: ok, so then you need to be root to write to that filesystem, since the user permissions won't match up from your actual user
[04:45] <Anastasia> fryguy, and how do I do that_
[04:45] <Roy_M> I know I have asked this once before, but, why is it that sudo does not seem to give me real root priveliges sometimes. For example, I am trying to: "echo 335544 > /proc/sys/net/core/rmem_default" and I am getting permissions errors.
[04:45] <fryguy> !root | Anastasia
[04:46] <fryguy> Roy_M: the bash redirection counts as a separate command, that runs outside of the scope of sudo, if you want to use sudo to echo stuff, use tee
[04:46] <eldrood> helllo, I need a little help, I am looking for a program to ubuntu, I want a Contacts program to ubuntu, but I want one with login user name + password offline, Are there any sort of that  program??
[04:46] <zetheroo> ﻿how do I know if lircd is running or not?
[04:46] <Anastasia> ubottu, I know the root password, the thing is I dont know how to use it so I can modify and access the files in my hard drive
[04:46] <fryguy> zetheroo: the ps command will tell you
[04:46] <zetheroo> ﻿fryguy: ps command?
[04:46] <fryguy> Anastasia: become root and edit the files on the hard drive
[04:47] <fryguy> zetheroo: yes
[04:47] <onetinsoldier> obottu is a bot. not a person
[04:47] <zetheroo>  ps
[04:47] <zetheroo>   PID TTY          TIME CMD
[04:47] <zetheroo> 18903 pts/1    00:00:00 ps
[04:47] <zetheroo> 22913 pts/1    00:00:00 bash
[04:47] <Roy_M> thanks fryguy, will have a look
[04:47] <FloodBot3> zetheroo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:47] <fryguy> zetheroo: read the manpage
[04:47] <Anastasia> fryguy, how_ I already tried sudo nautilus, but is the same...
[04:47] <Anastasia> fryguy, sudo nautilus wouldnt even show me the files of the hard drive
[04:48] <genii> Gah. More sudo <some-graphical-app>
[04:48] <Anacranom> Anastasia, do you have ubuntu installed or are you solely on the live cd?
[04:48] <fryguy> Anastasia: try gksu
[04:48] <Anastasia> Anacranom, Ubuntu is supposed to be installed, but after the upgrade it wouldnt work, thats why I had to go on live cd
[04:49] <genii> Anastasia: Since you used sudo now to run nautilus, you probably will have some problems running it as the regular user due to screwy permissions after
[04:49] <tylerwilliams> when i try to install ubuntu, all i get is a beige background and a cursor
[04:49] <GeorgeAScott> installed ubuntustudio over 8.04 from synaptic and no i can only log in with fail safe gnome session.  any other session tells me to check the name or password.
[04:50] <Anastasia> fryguy, doesn-t work
[04:50] <tylerwilliams> nevermind
[04:50] <lunakrist_> Can anyone tell me how to make ubuntu boot verbosely, without the initial status bar?  I tried removing splash from my /boot/grub/menu.lst to no avail..
[04:50] <tylerwilliams> it just worked, finally
[04:50] <giacomo> is there a way to dump the in-use kernel configuration (including all the modules installed, that's the point) into a new kernel configuration file that would let me compile my kernel with all the modules in?
[04:50] <Anastasia> genii, so what can I do now_
[04:50] <timlarson> for those following my printing problems (small group, eh ;) this is the error I get in /var/log/syslog: http://localhost:631/printers/PSC_1400_series
[04:50] <carandraug> lunakrist_: you sure you removed from the right boot option? Can you pastebin the file?
[04:50] <timlarson> Dec 17 23:48:47 notebook kernel: [11955.754403] type=1502 audit(1229575727.074:23): operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="::rw" denied_mask="::rw" fsuid=7 name="/dev/tty" pid=24483 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd"
[04:51] <Snowy> ninja
[04:51] <Anastasia> I am actually on this irc because i did sudo xchat in a terminal, because it wouldnt appear in the apps menu
[04:51] <Snowy> you are ninja -p
[04:51] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  tada!
[04:51] <genii> Anastasia: You will need to revert all ownership of things recursively in your home directory back to yourself including the hidden configuration files
[04:52] <timlarson> same error is received even if I do something strange like "chown lp:lp /dev/tty"
[04:52] <Snowy> i pwnt noobs online =p
[04:52] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> you remove the auto eth0 ?
[04:52] <Anacranom> Anastasia, what do you have on your 8.04 that you would like to salvage?... hope genii has a better suggestion..
[04:52] <Oxidize> Anyone able to suggest why ive rebooted and lost sound and have the huge speaker icon flashing on my desktop ?
[04:52] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  ....-,- what?  i just renamed /etc/init.d/networking
[04:52] <FAJALOU> and it worked fine...
[04:52] <fryguy> Oxidize: you probably installed a new kernel version and need to reinstall your sound driver for the new kernel
[04:52] <Anastasia> genii, what__
[04:52] <gizmo> haloo
[04:52] <leewang> helllo
[04:53] <keepsake> Hey, I'm trying to update amsn, but "sudo apt-get upgrade amsn" does not detect the 0.97.2 update (I'm using 0.97). I cannot build from source because it cannot find my tk build dir, though it's installed. Can someone help me install it?
[04:53] <gizmo> now im processing install ubuntu
[04:53] <Anastasia> Anacranom, that I would like to save#
[04:53] <gizmo> its take 3 hrs to install..right?
[04:53] <lunakrist_> carandraug: Good point... I'll check
[04:53] <Oxidize> fryguy considerd that but it was working bef,r also tryed running live CD and sound works but same thing with sound icon suddently flashing on dekstop
[04:53] <Anastasia> I am sorry, cannot find the question mark
[04:53] <Oxidize> desktop*
[04:53] <Anacranom> Anastasia, yes
[04:53] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  is that all that i needed to do??
[04:53] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> and you still have network access after that?
[04:53] <leewang> i was wondering does anyone in here have experiance with this stupid imvu chat program?
[04:53] <Anastasia> Anacranom, 60Gb of music
[04:53] <fryguy> keepsake: have you done apt-get update yet?
[04:53] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  ya i am on wifi just fine.
[04:53] <odonil> When installing softwares with the synaptic manager, what is the default installation path?
[04:53] <keepsake> fryguy: Yup.
[04:53] <gizmo> Anastasia : is that right 3 hrs install the ubuntu..?
[04:54] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  but will it affect it if i have to plug in???
[04:54] <fryguy> Oxidize: like i said, it's because of an updated kernel.  a driver can only be linked to a specific kernel. when you upgrade kernel, you have to go and upgrade drivers too
[04:54] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> plugin what?
[04:54] <Anastasia> gizmo, about that time, yes
[04:54] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  for ethernet.  sorry
[04:54] <Oxidize> And that would still effect a live CD boot that was fine previously?
[04:54] <gizmo> Anastasia : am i lost everything in my computer after install ubuntu?
[04:54] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> it might, dont know,  whats the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces now?
[04:54] <fryguy> keepsake: apt-cache show amsn | grep Version
[04:55] <eldrood> elllo, I need a little help, I am looking for a program to ubuntu, I want a Contacts program to ubuntu, but I want one with login user name + password offline, Are there any sort of that  program??
[04:55] <fryguy> Oxidize: oh, livecd doesn't work anymore either? i misunderstoof
[04:55] <keepsake> Version: 0.97+final-0ubuntu5.1
[04:55] <keepsake> Version: 0.97+final-0ubuntu5
[04:55] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  same as it was wayyyy above.
[04:55] <Oxidize> It worked fine befor, sound on the live CD works but
[04:55] <FAJALOU> auto lo....... auto eth0
[04:55] <Anastasia> gizmo, its better you backup all your stuff
[04:55] <Anacranom> Anastasia, if it were me...
[04:55] <Oxidize> all of a sudden im gettin the icon flashing, on HDD boot im gettin no sound + flashing icon
[04:55] <keepsake> fryguy: it shows 0.97+final-0ubuntu5.1 and 0-ubuntu5
[04:56] <fryguy> Oxidize: right. and the reason for that i just explained to you. twice.
[04:56] <Oxidize> k :)
[04:56] <gizmo> Anastasia : but i install in from cd.. i dont know how to back up..
[04:56] <fryguy> keepsake: then you haven't done apt-get update yet
[04:56] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> i dont know what wicd do
[04:56] <the_newbie> I know you are genius, and you may be able to answer my fool question... Is it possible to encrypt emails with gmail using PGP? what about live mail? hotmail?
[04:56] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  what about wicd?
[04:56] <keepsake> fryguy: I have, it's not showing the 0.97.2 update
[04:56] <fryguy> keepsake: make sure your repositories are configured correctly
[04:56] <Anastasia> gizmo, backup means to save all your information somewhere else so you wouldnt lose it eventually
[04:56] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> how it works with the interfaces file
[04:57] <keepsake> fryguy: It's from the backports repos, and afaik it's enabled
[04:57] <bullgard4> odonil: You can find that out yourself: Using Synaptic, download a certain package. Do 'sudo updatedb'. Do 'locate <packagename>'.>
[04:57] <gizmo> Anastasia : mean like in my pendrive..
[04:57] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  oh... well it is seemingly working fine w/ no networking file..
[04:57] <Anastasia> gizmo, specially if you are installing for first time the best you can do is to save all your info
[04:57] <zetheroo> ﻿fryguy: what should ps say in relation to lircd?
[04:57] <zetheroo> ﻿fryguy: there is no mention of it ...
[04:57] <fryguy> zetheroo: if it's running, it will be listed, if it's not running it wont' be listed
[04:57] <Anastasia> Anacranom, if it were you what_  *stupid question marks >*
[04:58] <tylerwilliams> it seems that my installation of ubuntu is frozen
[04:58] <tylerwilliams> is it just loading?
[04:58] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> okay, but i doubt it you can have network access upon going from one level to another
[04:58] <zetheroo> ﻿fryguy: how do I get it to run?
[04:58] <odonil> bullguard4: I am actually trying to installing netbeans 6. I want all the installation in the same directory as that provided by unbuntu.
[04:58] <fryguy> zetheroo: see if there is a /etc/init.d/ script for it
[04:58] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  going from what to what?  right now i am on the internet with wifi on that computer
[04:59] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> init levels, try to go to single and then back to 2-5
[04:59] <zetheroo> ﻿fryguy: yes its there ... lirc
[04:59] <tylerwilliams> fryguy: i have the ubuntu installation running, but all it is is a greay window that says "install" at the top
[04:59] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  why would i need more than one level of that?  i changed the name in init.d ....
[04:59] <the_newbie> hello, is it possible to encrypt emails with PGP using hotmail?
[04:59] <fryguy> tylerwilliams: why are you telling me?
[04:59] <fryguy> the_newbie: wrong channel
[05:00] <the_newbie> fryguy, where can I ask?
[05:00] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> its how ubuntu simulates sys v unix, the init levels
[05:00] <fryguy> the_newbie: no idea.  This channel provides support for the ubuntu operating system
[05:00] <keepsake> fryguy: ha, problem solved, just downloaded relevant .deb files from packages.ubuntu.com and that did it, thanks =)
[05:00] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  ok...  how will it, in the long run, affect me.
[05:00] <odonil> bullguard4: is /usr/share the default directory for installation under unbuntu ?
[05:00] <fryguy> odonil: no
[05:00] <zetheroo> ﻿fryguy: I have done  sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart many times but still nothing ..
[05:00] <juancabrito> hey! there's an icon in the top cormer which seems like something about not being connected to a network, but I do have internet, what could it be? this is happening after the last update of the system.
[05:00] <Ward1983> fryguy, did it ever occur to you he might be using ubuntu?
[05:00] <darnell> any idea on speech recognition and handwriting for ubuntu?
[05:01] <Anacranom> Anastasia, i'd run gparted and in i think you said sda1 create a 65g partition named whatever, to ext3, or fat32, and mount as /bak and do a cp /media/disk/home/<yourusernamehere>/where/your/musicis/ /bak   and then reinstall 8.04 an leave the 65g /back partition alone until you could re-mount it
[05:01] <fryguy> Ward1983: it doesn't matter, it's not an ubuntu problem
[05:01] <qcjn> hi, i've changed /boot/grub/dontremember.lst "something=all" to "something=1"..but i still see all the version. Oh yes i've updated
[05:01] <fryguy> Ward1983: if you would have the same exact question if you were running fedora, debian, windows, freebsd, or whatever, then it's probably not appropriate for this channel
[05:01] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> am not here to explain to you why you need to go to different init levels, actually its been replaced by events.. understanding how the old system works.. helps to troubleshoot
[05:01] <eldrood> helllo, I need a little help, I am looking for a program to ubuntu, I want a Contacts program to ubuntu, but I want one with login user name + password offline, Are there any sort of that  program??
[05:01] <Ward1983> fryguy, maybe he does not know what software he can use in ubuntu?
[05:02] <roxazer> hi, if i run aptitude update, can i delete the packages it have downlaoded? theyare taking alot of space
[05:02] <fryguy> Ward1983: he was specifically asking about web applications
[05:02] <odonil> fryguy: then which is the default installation directory when installing via synaptic pakage manager?
[05:02] <Cyborg_Zombie_Ni> j
[05:02] <n8tuser> FAJALOU-> if you are happy with your configs,  dont do anything else
[05:02] <FAJALOU> n8tuser:  well its working now; so we wil see.
[05:02] <rgov> Any suggestions for a Ubuntu-compatible PDA?
[05:02] <fryguy> odonil: depends on the package, and packages will be spread out across various locations on the system
[05:02] <Ward1983> fryguy, he said how to use pgp key on hotmail, you can use mailclients on hotmail aswell...
[05:02] <Ward1983> but ok
[05:02] <Anacranom> Anastasia, but would like you to explore fryguy or genii suggestion first, that is last ditch effort
[05:02] <fryguy> odonil: there is no "default"
[05:02] <darnell> any idea on speech recognition and handwriting for ubuntu?
[05:03] <luddite> how do you install a ttf font in ubuntu?
[05:03] <fryguy> Ward1983: and those mailclients all have obvious implementations of pgp.  And even still, that's not an ubuntu problem, it's an application problem, so it's not appropriate for this channel
[05:03] <Intrepid_>  irc.rizon.net
[05:03] <fryguy> luddite: put it in ~/.fonts/
[05:03] <roxazer> fryguy: couse i running it from a 4GB usb drive, and the packages is taking like ~3GB of the space
[05:03] <lunakrist> carandruag:  I had in fact edited the wrong section of menu.lst... d'oh
[05:03] <roxazer> it was ~400 updates
[05:03] <luddite> fryguy - ah thats way too easy.
[05:03] <luddite> thanks
[05:03] <odonil> When i am installing some third party software using synaptic package manager what is fryguy: the default installation directory ?
[05:03] <Ward1983> fryguy, so if someone asks a grub question its not ubuntu related either, as that is used by other distros aswell
[05:03] <Anastasia> Anacranom, I dont know, I think I will just see if I can burn onto dvds and then reinstall the newest version from a cd
[05:03] <Chaoshalo> mmkay what is ubuntu :)
[05:04] <darnell> any idea on speech recognition and handwriting for ubuntu?
[05:04] <c0l2e> how can I try a live Cd using qemu ??
[05:04] <gizmo> instaling ubuntu - 8.10 = please wait while the required files are retrived and prepared..<--what is this mean..
[05:04] <fryguy> odonil: I just explained to you how "default" installation works. What is the problem
[05:04] <carandraug> lunakrist: hehe! Now it's fine, that's what matters
[05:04] <fryguy> Ward1983: in general that is true, yes
[05:04] <Geoffrey2> what is an executable text file?
[05:04] <gizmo> can anybody tell me what is this
[05:04] <gizmo> instaling ubuntu - 8.10 = please wait while the required files are retrived and prepared..
[05:04] <luddite> fryguy - i only have a ~./fontconfig there
[05:04] <keepsake> odonil: Software is generally installed to /usr/bin
[05:04] <Ward1983> gizmo, exactly what it says i guess :)
[05:04] <Anacranom> Anastasia, i am sticking with 8.04 for this very reason
[05:04] <fryguy> luddite: so make a new directory
[05:04] <luddite> oh thatnks
[05:05] <keepsake> luddite: Control + H to show hidden directories first
[05:05] <eldrood> Hello, can I set a password to start a program in ubuntu??
[05:05] <gizmo> Ward1983 : thats mean im waiting proccess of success?
[05:05] <mattgyver83> Why cant i mount my new 8gig micro SDHC card, Ubuntu automatically recognizes my 1gig Micro-SD card.  Any suggestions?
[05:05] <Ward1983> gizmo, dunno sorry, but it doesnt say "error xxxx" does it :p
[05:05] <Anastasia> Anacranom, maybe if I do the clean installation from the cd this won-t happen... I hope so
[05:05] <fryguy> Ward1983: grub issues directly related to the install process (and using grub from the ubuntu livecd) are on topic (and have handy bot factoids for them)
[05:05] <darnell> any idea on speech recognition and handwriting for ubuntu?
[05:05] <darnell> any idea on speech recognition and handwriting for ubuntu?
[05:05] <z0mbie_Ninja> do you guys use KDE or GNOME?
[05:05] <fryguy> z0mbie_Ninja: neither
[05:06] <dj248515> virtualbox error: devATA_DISKFULL when the disk has plenty of space
[05:06] <Geoffrey2> does executable simply mean clicking on it will launch the appropriate application to display it?
[05:06] <fryguy> Geoffrey2: in general, yes
[05:06] <Anacranom> Anastasia, i tried that too,,, i'm sticking with 8.04 on my main,,, i have a test box for 8.10,,,
[05:06] <Ward1983> fryguy, good thing ##linux exists right :)
[05:06] <fryguy> Ward1983: yes
[05:06] <Ward1983> goodnight, need to go
[05:06] <fryguy> Ward1983: it was around long before this channel
[05:06] <Ward1983> fryguy, didnt mean anything by it, your reply just seemd a bit cold
[05:07] <Ward1983> fryguy, i know :)
[05:07] <odonil> fryguy, keepsake: Thanks a lot
[05:07] <Ward1983> gtg, godnight / goodday
[05:07] <keepsake> odonil: np
[05:07] <Anastasia> Anacranom, is there anyway to inverse the upgrading_ lol... that would be awesome
[05:08] <Anacranom> Anastasia, that would be indeed, but not that i know of
[05:09] <Anastasia> Does anyone know about some place to store files online_ something like rapidshare but that allows more than 1gb
[05:10] <fryguy> Anastasia: carbonite, filesavr, dreamhost off the top of my head
[05:10] <Geoffrey2> fryguy, I was never sure if that was some kind of warning...as applications can be executed....text is just that...text....
[05:11] <fryguy> Geoffrey2: there's plenty of interpreted languages in *nix that look like "just text" and yet run as applications
[05:11] <alaska> anyone else have trouble downloading intrepid?
[05:11] <fryguy> alaska: no
[05:12] <onetinsoldier> hi. i have windows on second hard drive, as well as another linux installation. my windows partition is being auto-mounted by a default install of ubnutu in ~/.gvfs and i would like to get rid of that behavior if possible. anyone know how? also, i find it a little strange that gvfs has decided to auto-mount my windows partition in ~/.gvfs by default, but not the linux partitions on that drive.
[05:13] <jhambo> Hi folks.  wireless networking on my computer is $@%$!-up. Sometimes my connection is dropped and the only way to get it back is to reboot my computer. I'm using a 2.6.27 kernel and the madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6 modules (which supposedly support my chipset). I'm wondering if there is a conflict between built-in kernel modules and the madwifi ones I installed myself.  the result of `lsmod | grep ath` is here: http://paste.debian.net/23
[05:13] <eldrood> Hello, does any one know how to set a password to start a program in ubuntu 8.10??
[05:13] <radlipat> whats best video player for php.asx files?
[05:13] <IndyGunFreak> jhambo: link didn't work.. what is your wireless device
[05:13] <keepsake> radlipat: php.asx files aren't video files, I think...
[05:14] <radlipat> hummmm
[05:14] <greencookie> does anyone else have problems with intel based soundcards not configured properly?
[05:14] <keepsake> radlipat: Oh, well, they are, but they don't contain the file themselves, my bad =P
[05:14] <alaska> it's my understanding that vlc plays anything that can be played...except real I think.
[05:14] <d-b-a> hi ah is security.ubuntu.com down ?
[05:14] <radlipat> ahhhhhhhhhhh
[05:14] <keepsake> radlipat: Have you tried VLC?
[05:14] <fryguy> eldrood: read the manpage for chown and chmod and change the permissions on the file as necessary
[05:14] <greencookie> its driving me crazy
[05:14] <radlipat> ok so what do i do t get the file or did frostwire fudge me over?
[05:15] <Gnea> d-b-a: nope, it's up just fine
[05:15] <d-b-a> not for me...
[05:15] <radlipat> whats vlc?
[05:15] <mwas> ﻿keepsake: Can you explain what VLC is
[05:15] <fryguy> radlipat: a video player
[05:15] <Gnea> d-b-a: router probably got unplugged... wait a few minutes
[05:15] <sleepy_cat> hi
[05:15] <leftyfb> Ubuntu 8.10 fully updated. Nvidia geforce 6400 with driver version 180.80 after trying 177 with the same problem. The title bar at the top of windows has lines in it when not in focus. I know this has been a problem for a while on certain machines. Any idea how to fix it?
[05:15] <keepsake> mwas: It's just a media player.
[05:15] <radlipat> ok how i get it?
[05:15] <sleepy_cat> any nre ubuntu themes
[05:15] <d-b-a> me ?
[05:15] <jhambo> IndyGunFreak: the link should work, I just tested it. The device is "Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)"
[05:15] <keepsake> radlipat: "sudo apt-get install vlc"?
[05:15] <sleepy_cat> complete themes not just desktop theme
[05:15] <d-b-a> dude i know my network, my network is fine
[05:15] <fryguy> radlipat: apt-get install vlc
[05:15] <sleepy_cat> wallpaper etc also
[05:15] <alaska> radlipat: sudo apt-get install vlc ... I think
[05:16] <joel_> clear
[05:16] <alaska> oops yah keepsake's got it
[05:16] <Gnea> d-b-a: uhm, try traceroute security.ubuntu.com
[05:16] <fryguy> sleepy_cat: apt-cache search themes
[05:16] <d-b-a> Gnea: ones ec
[05:16] <Gnea> d-b-a: i wasn't referring to a router on your side
[05:16] <Gnea> d-b-a: do you even hit level3?
[05:16] <d-b-a> ah.... oh
[05:16] <eldrood> fryguy: I feeling quiet stupid now but can you tell me where to find that?
[05:17] <d-b-a> i hit freenode...
[05:17] <fryguy> eldrood: man chown, man chmod
[05:17] <Gnea> lol
[05:17] <radlipat> kk its installing ty
[05:17] <virgo1143> how do I install kcontrol in intrepid?
[05:17] <fryguy> eldrood: won't let you do exactly what you want (what you want isn't really possible), but it should accomplish what you need to accomplish (stopping people from executing programs you don't want them to execute
[05:17] <virgo1143> this color scheme is driving me nuts
[05:17] <fryguy> eldrood: you might also want to look at PAM or SELinux to see if they offer something that suits your needs
[05:17] <d-b-a> ok i can hit security.ubuntu.com there might be some missing files then
[05:18] <Gnea> !info kcontrol-autostart
[05:18] <Gnea> d-b-a: just sudo apt-get update
[05:18] <virgo1143> thanks bot
[05:18] <slyf_> Hey guys, can I bind a key to Left click?  and if so, how
[05:18] <Gnea> !botsnack
[05:18] <The_Undisputable> hi all
[05:18] <d-b-a> i'm doing that Gnea -> i know what i'm doing ^^
[05:18] <sleepy_cat> ok
[05:18] <The_Undisputable> i am planning to shift to ubuntu
[05:18] <sleepy_cat> found a lt of stuff
[05:18] <sleepy_cat> how to install them
[05:19] <The_Undisputable> however i am unsure of some hitngs
[05:19] <The_Undisputable> things
[05:19] <Gnea> d-b-a: most people don't :)
[05:19] <evilGUI> The_Undisputable: what are you unsure of?
[05:19] <The_Undisputable> i am having a almost 3 years old ibm laptop r52
[05:19] <The_Undisputable> excuse r51
[05:19] <keepsake> The_Undisputable: Are you worried about system compatibility?
[05:20] <The_Undisputable> yes
[05:20] <gizmo> evilGUI : is that normal install in XP Cd ubuntu for 3hrs?
[05:20] <d-b-a> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com intrepid-security/universe Packages 38% [Waiting for headers] -> does the security.ubuntu.com have these repos ?
[05:20] <fryguy> The_Undisputable: so run the livecd and see how things work
[05:20] <alaska> The_Undisputable...my sister has an old thinkpad. It was draggin with windows. 8.04 gave it a new life and she's really happy with it
[05:20] <keepsake> !requirements | The_Undisputable
[05:20] <The_Undisputable> i tried to run live cd, but it is not working
[05:21] <evilGUI> The_Undisputable: ah where does it fail
[05:21] <skywayman> 可以打中文？
[05:21] <kurisutofuaa_> Trying to find a walk-through to sync my Palm Vx serial through a usb dongle anyone? running 8.10 32bit
[05:21] <Finnish> How do I update grub?
[05:21] <keepsake> !zh | skywayman
[05:21] <d-b-a> The_Undisputable: no graphics ?
[05:21] <evilGUI> gizmo: it's not normal for any installer to take 3 hours
[05:21] <Hammerfall> Hi someone speak spanish?
[05:21] <Gnea> !es | Hammerfall
[05:21] <keepsake> !es | Hammerfall
[05:21] <d-b-a> if that is the case sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg and add driver "vesa"
[05:21] <eldrood> fryguy: It maybe help if i tell you what i need, I will have a password to start my contacts program so no one can enter it end of cause I will encrypt the adress file.....but like I said I will have a password to start the program to....maybe you can help me??
[05:21] <fryguy> eldrood: i already gave you a list of solutions to your problem
[05:21] <Hammerfall> thx =0>
[05:21] <d-b-a> mmm maybe this ubuntu box has a problem.
[05:21] <The_Undisputable> the cd is not booting at all
[05:22] <keepsake> The_Undisputable: What are your system specs?
[05:22] <leftyfb> Ubuntu 8.10 fully updated. Nvidia geforce 6400 with driver version 180.80 after trying 177 with the same problem. The title bar at the top of windows has lines in it when not in focus. I know this has been a problem for a while on certain machines. Any idea how to fix it? http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/573/screenshotrk2.png
[05:22] <The_Undisputable> i tried to change the settings from bios and still problem persists
[05:22] <Gnea> The_Undisputable: I think he means /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:22] <eldrood> fryguy: ok , thanks
[05:22] <d-b-a> The_Undisputable: i would check the checksum on the cd and how scratched it is
[05:22] <The_Undisputable> windows xp, intel celeron 1.3Ghz, 512 Mb ram
[05:22] <gizmo> evilGUI : but my ubuntu setup cd live take 3hrs..
[05:22] <evilGUI> The_Undisputable: tried to boot from another cd like memtest x86 or the Windows install cd?
[05:22] <gizmo> now its proccess
[05:22] <evilGUI> gizmo: how much ram do you have?
[05:23] <keepsake> The_Undisputable: And when you say it doesn't boot at all, do you mean you computer freezes on CD boot?
[05:23] <The_Undisputable> 512 MB ram
[05:23] <Gnea> The_Undisputable: how far does the livecd get before something stops?
[05:23]  * Until_It_Sleeps wishes he could download every single theme offered for Ubuntu from Gnome-look.org in a bulk file...
[05:23] <qcjn> hi, i make sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst,decomment, howmany=1 save it, then sudo update-grub, then restart the computer and nothing changed
[05:23] <fryguy> qcjn: /boot/grub/menu.lst is the file you want to edit
[05:23] <qcjn> ther's still like 5 kernel showing
[05:24] <qcjn> yes
[05:24] <The_Undisputable> frst of all, i am unable to view the cd in the system
[05:24] <Gnea> qcjn: you have to manually comment them out or remove them via apt-get
[05:24] <evilGUI> gizmo: I'm willing to bet somethings hanging on startup that's the only thing I would think would make it take 3 hours
[05:24] <fryguy> qcjn: oh sorry i misread your bad punctuation.
[05:24] <The_Undisputable> i will do one thing
[05:24] <The_Undisputable> i will first update the firmware of the dvd-rom and i will again revert back to you
[05:24] <evilGUI> The_Undisputable: can you view other CDs?
[05:25] <The_Undisputable> yes
[05:25] <evilGUI> bad burn?
[05:25] <Gnea> qcjn: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep linux-image  will show you the packagenames that are installed
[05:25] <The_Undisputable> actually i have burnt on a dvd
[05:25] <Until_It_Sleeps> Is it possible to download every single theme for Ubuntu in a bulk file?
[05:25] <The_Undisputable> i think so
[05:25] <eldrood> helllo, I need a little help, I am looking for a program to ubuntu, I want a Contacts program to ubuntu, but I want one with login user name + password offline, Are there any sort of that  program??
[05:25] <fryguy> Until_It_Sleeps: no
[05:25] <Until_It_Sleeps> instead of having to download each and every one...
[05:25] <Gnea> The_Undisputable: what speed did you burn it at?
[05:25] <Until_It_Sleeps> darn.
[05:25] <evilGUI> The_Undisputable: also do other DVDs work?
[05:25] <leftyfb> anyone?
[05:26] <Gnea> !anyone | leftyfb
[05:26] <The_Undisputable> the maximum speed available for the  dvd
[05:26] <leftyfb> my problem I think is a known one .. and I THOUGHT was fixed
[05:26] <Until_It_Sleeps> !theme
[05:26] <Gnea> The_Undisputable: ah, that might be the culprit - try 4x
[05:26] <srizz> anyone know why my screen goes black when i goto fullscreen in videos
[05:26] <evilGUI> The_Undisputable: always burn at 4x and lower
[05:26] <qcjn> Gnea: fryguy there are 6, but i don't wan t to see them at start up
[05:26] <The_Undisputable> ok
[05:26] <keepsake> The_Undisputable: Isn't Ubuntu a CD file though? Why burn on DVD?
[05:26] <The_Undisputable> i will again download the file and will burn in 4x speed
[05:27] <evilGUI> The_Undisputable: you might also want to try other media you aren't using RWs are you?
[05:27] <Gnea> qcjn: then just: sudo apt-get remove <packagename>  the ones you don't want there anymore
[05:27] <The_Undisputable> it was more than 4 gB
[05:27] <keepsake> Gnea, qjcn: Adding the --purge switch is useful.
[05:27] <formode> Hello, does anyone know if it's ok to cancel Gparted operations? It is resizing a windows partition I don't really want, if I damage my other partitions?
[05:27] <fryguy> The_Undisputable: you downloaded the wrong thing then
[05:27] <Gnea> keepsake: good point :)
[05:27] <evilGUI> The_Undisputable: the standard install image is around 700MB
[05:27] <fryguy> The_Undisputable: the ubuntu livecd is a CD, not a DVD. download it from www.ubuntu.com
[05:27] <The_Undisputable> my god
[05:27] <Gnea> fryguy: there are dvd images
[05:27] <The_Undisputable> ok
[05:27] <fryguy> Gnea: pretty sure there are none on ubuntu.com
[05:28] <leftyfb> there are
[05:28] <qcjn> Gnea: so from what i understand, when a new kernel is installed, i can uninstalled the old one ?
[05:28] <fryguy> link?
[05:28] <srizz> formode: i wouldn't think so
[05:28] <onetinsoldier> qcjn: yes
[05:28] <leftyfb> fryguy: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#dvd
[05:28] <qcjn> oh, thats good, thanks
[05:28] <jhambo> Hi folks.  wireless networking on my computer is $@%$!-up. Sometimes my connection is dropped and the only way to get it back is to reboot my computer. I'm using a 2.6.27 kernel and the madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6 modules (which supposedly support my chipset). I'm wondering if there is a conflict between built-in kernel modules and the madwifi ones I installed myself.  the result of `lsmod | grep ath` is here: http://paste.debian.net/23
[05:29] <formode> srizz, Are you certain? If I loose my linux partition I'll loose alot of important data. :(
[05:29] <qcjn> thanks Gnea fryguy onetinsoldier
[05:29] <fryguy> formode: if you cancel a partition operation while it's in progress, in all likelihood bad things will happen
[05:30] <keepsake> formode: Don't stop operations in process.
[05:30] <keepsake> formode: If you really want to change it back, just do the change in reverse after it's applied.
[05:30] <onetinsoldier> qcjn: you're welcome. if you purge the old one it may complain about a vmlinuz and an initrd symlink being broken, but that can be ignored. you can see these symlink by doing  ls -l /
[05:30] <formode> fryguy, I don't care if it damages my worthless windows partition which it is resizing, but I can't have another damaged.
[05:30] <The_Undisputable> i am searching for live cd on ubuntu webiste
[05:30] <Gnea> qcjn: yes.
[05:30] <formode> keepsake, I just don't really have 4 hours to let it do the moving. :-/
[05:30] <fryguy> formode: why didn't you make a backup before you started messing with partitions, like every guide tells you to?
[05:30] <leftyfb> The_Undisputable: ubuntu.com/download
[05:30] <terryx> my desktop effects are not working....
[05:30] <wartalker> jhambo:when you drop, ifconfig , can you find the wlan0
[05:30] <srizz> formode: not 100% never actually done it, if your only editing one partition thats the only one that will be affected
[05:30] <Gnea> qcjn: the only exception is that you can't uninstall a kernel you're currently booted into :)
[05:31] <keepsake> formode: If it has not started touching the linux partition, there's a good chance you can stop it, and use Testdisk or something to fix your mbr
[05:31] <lwizardl> can ubuntu linux burn .dmg images
[05:31] <fryguy> formode: and if i recall correctly gparted asks you to make a backup before doing operations as well
[05:31] <onetinsoldier> hi. i have windows on second hard drive, as well as another linux installation. my windows partition is being auto-mounted by a default install of ubnutu in ~/.gvfs and i would like to get rid of that behavior if possible. anyone know how? also, i find it a little strange that gvfs has decided to auto-mount my windows partition in ~/.gvfs by default, but not the linux partitions on that drive.
[05:31] <formode> fryguy, Because I wasn't touching my other partitions, moving my linux partition
[05:31] <keepsake> formode: and not end up with permanent damage
[05:31] <fryguy> lwizardl: sure
[05:31] <fryguy> formode: so?
[05:31] <The_Undisputable> if i rum ive cd can i determine whether ubuntu supports my hardware
[05:31] <fryguy> formode: modifying partitions on disk = backup all important data on the disk or risk losing it
[05:31] <formode> keepsake, fryguy, thanks. I'll just leave it.
[05:31] <srizz> need a hand here
[05:31] <keepsake> The_Undisputable: Your system already "supports" Ubuntu, since it passes the minimum requirements.
[05:31] <GodfatherofEire> Could somebody help me with getting my sound up and running again? It WAS working earlier, but now its not, running Intrepid, and its also not allowing multiple apps to use alsa, i.e. something that worked before
[05:32] <keepsake> !ask | srizz
[05:32] <evilGUI> The_Undisputable: if it doesn't support the hardware out of the box you can most likely install drivers
[05:32] <terryx> how to re-enable desktop effects
[05:32] <terryx> ?
[05:32] <fryguy> terryx: appearance menu
[05:32] <keepsake> terryx: System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[05:32] <The_Undisputable> i am worried about drivers
[05:32] <leftyfb> Ubuntu 8.10 fully updated. Nvidia geforce 6400 with driver version 180.80 after trying 177 with the same problem. The title bar at the top of windows has lines in it when not in focus. I know this has been a problem for a while on certain machines. Any idea how to fix it? http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/573/screenshotrk2.png
[05:32] <keepsake> terryx: Go to visual effects in that.
[05:32] <The_Undisputable> i have soundmax audio drivers
[05:32] <lwizardl> fryguy: what program supports writing them on blank cds?
[05:32] <srizz> i had already asked,.. i'm trying to figure out why my screen goes black when i put videos in fullscreen
[05:32] <terryx> error comes...
[05:33] <leftyfb> The_Undisputable: try the live cd
[05:33] <ivo> hi. 8.10 here. laptop toshiba with intel 855 graphics. when i power-on the laptop with VGA output connected to a monitor, it runs ok, and displays on the monitor as well. but if i power it on w/o vga connected, and later on connect the monitor, i can not make it to display. i found solutions to use xrander --output VGA --auto, but it does not work. also, i found a suggestion to restart X, it...
[05:33] <ivo> ...did not work either. another one i tries was to restart acpid, no luck as well. any other ideas?
[05:33] <fryguy> lwizardl: brasero will probably do it
[05:33] <lwizardl> fryguy: becuase I can not find one that does so far
[05:33] <evilGUI> The_Undisputable: don't be I have a no name laptop and it works fine wireless and all
[05:33] <qcjn> so i have to do "sudo apt-get remove Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.20-16-generic (recovery mode)"
[05:33] <Gnea> fryguy: look on the download page, on the lower-right, under where it says "Even more options"
[05:33] <keepsake> qcjn: Are you trying to remove the entry from the boot menu?
[05:33] <evilGUI> The_Undisputable: only thing I had to do was edit xorg.conf and change the video resolution
[05:33] <qcjn> keepsake: yes
[05:33] <Ryno> fryguy: im having troubles getting the screen resolution to stay at what i want it to. it appears to change the resolution on the splash screen but reverts back when i enter ubuntu
[05:34] <keepsake> qcjn: If you are, "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" and put # in front of the entries listed under the thing you want to make disappear.
[05:34] <terryx> desktop effects could not be enables..
[05:34] <terryx> what to do
[05:34] <fryguy> lwizardl: also look at acetoneiso and baghira
[05:34] <keepsake> terryx: What is the error?
[05:34] <fryguy> Ryno: why are you telling me?
[05:34] <terryx> desktop effect could not be enables
[05:34] <fryguy> terryx: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[05:35] <cplab2-58> can anyone check this error i got while installing aptoncd  http://paste.ubuntu.com/87563/
[05:35] <terryx> where to type
[05:35] <qcjn> keepsake:  ok
[05:35] <GodfatherofEire> Could somebody help with my sound issue? ALSA keeps telling me that the device refused the connection, but I know that it was working fine earlier, and also, why is it also now, all of a sudden not allowing multiple programs to use the sound device?
[05:35] <fryguy> terryx: in a termianl
[05:35] <jhambo> wartalker: it's wifi0 but no.  Then I can usually do `ifconfig ath0 up` but even though it looks like it's up it doesn't work.
[05:35] <Ryno> fryguy: thought you might be able to help, you pointed me towards xorg.conf earlier on this. my bad
[05:35] <keepsake> Quick question, how do I temporarily kill ehci-hcd?
[05:35] <lwizardl> fryguy: I've used acetoneiso and it seems to make the iso that my mac can't read
[05:35] <psypher246> hi all, pls any assistance would be great. i have a completely unusable work PC right now. Cannot browse the internet on either Opera, epiphany or firefox. Since 2 weeks ago my browser just crashes all the time. I have tried safe mode, new profile, re-install ff, all plugins disabled, uninstall java, uninstall flash and a heavy system stress test. Nothing works. FF and other browsers will still randomly crash. I have started a forum post on the probl
[05:35] <fryguy> keepsake: the driver?
[05:35] <cplab2-58> can anyone check this error i got while installing aptoncd  http://paste.ubuntu.com/87563/
[05:35] <wartalker> jhambo:ifconfig wifi0 up
[05:35] <keepsake> fryguy: Yeah.
[05:35] <fryguy> keepsake: rmmod
[05:36] <keepsake> fryguy: riiiiight, thanks =P
[05:36] <keepsake> cplab2-58: You need to install the newest version of Python
[05:36] <terryx> glx missing on display
[05:36] <keepsake> cplab2-58: python-central*
[05:36] <evilGUI> The_Undisputable: I have soundmax drivers on my gaming machine and they work
[05:36] <srizz> this is gay
[05:36] <srizz> really
[05:36] <srizz> really
[05:36] <srizz> gay
[05:36] <FloodBot3> srizz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:36] <wartalker> jhambo: iwlist wifi0 scanning
[05:37] <fryguy> srizz: nobody cares, either ask a meaningful question or leave.  Getting mad in the channel isn't going to accomplish anything meaningful
[05:37] <evilGUI> The_Undisputable: for me 8.10 supports more of my hardware out of the box then xp did
[05:37] <radlipat> psypher246: ummm try reinstalling linux or windows or mac what ever os you have otherwise idk what to tell you
[05:37] <psypher246> thanks but not really an option
[05:37] <keepsake> cplab2-58: Go to System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager, and search for "python-central", and update.
[05:37] <psypher246> and this is not windows. i don't believe in re-instyall on linux
[05:37] <radlipat> psypher246: did you lose cd?
[05:37] <psypher246> either way not an option
[05:37] <srizz> fryguy: already did, and fuck you
[05:37] <wolfspiderr> hi
[05:38] <fryguy> psypher246: run the browser from a terminal and get it to crash, and look at the output and see if it offers anythign meaningful
[05:38] <cplab2-58> keepsakei am installing through my pendrive and i have the pythoncentral version .6.7 but still i get the error
[05:38] <GodfatherofEire> Ok I REALLY REALLY need some help with the sound because I know that it doesn't just stop working all of a sudden, at least, its not supposed to
[05:38] <psypher246> radlipat: it took s weeks to configure my pc and i don't have the bandwidth to reinstall
[05:38] <fryguy> srizz: sorry, i missed it among all of your useless lines of spam text
[05:38] <terryx> helllloooooooo
[05:38] <radlipat> ahhhh
[05:38] <psypher246> fryguy: done that already, sometime errors , mostsly none
[05:38] <keepsake> cplab2-58: Does it say that in Synaptic?
[05:38] <fryguy> srizz: try repeating and staying on point, rather than going off on emotional tangents
[05:38] <cplab2-58> keepsake; there is no net connection to the system.. so i m installing through pendrive
[05:38] <radlipat> psypher246: well im at a loss then srry man
[05:38] <jhambo> wartalker: yah that command fails to find anything until I reboot...
[05:39] <srizz> fryguy: try fucking off
[05:39] <psypher246> yeah teaches me right to run updaTES\
[05:39] <keepsake> cplab2-58: How are you on IRC? Are you on a separate computer?
[05:39] <fryguy> srizz: nah, i'm cool just sitting here trying to answer some questions while i watch tv
[05:39] <cplab2-58> keepsake; ya
[05:39] <dongs> okay. so. I get "udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1" in dmesg, about 10 seconds in. what gives??
[05:39] <lwizardl> fryguy: well brasero seems to open it when i select all files and is writing it to disc hopefully it will work
[05:39] <fryguy> psypher246: are you running compiz?
[05:39] <psypher246> yes
[05:39] <psypher246> will try tunr that off
[05:39] <The_Undisputable> i am downloading form this location releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid/
[05:39] <cplab2-58> keepsake; the other system has no net connection
[05:39] <keepsake> cplab2-58: What version of Ubuntu are you running on the other system?
[05:39] <cplab2-58> keepsake; 8.04
[05:39] <srizz> fryguy: well then answer some, and fuck off
[05:40] <keepsake> cplab2-58: x86?
[05:40] <dongs> okay. so. I get "udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1" in dmesg, about 10 seconds in. what gives??
[05:40] <fryguy> srizz: k
[05:40] <keepsake> cplab2-58: i.e. i386?
[05:40] <cplab2-58> srizz; mind your language when you are in public
[05:40]  * fryguy goes back to compiling firefox3
[05:40] <terryx> anybody tell me how to re-enable desktop effects
[05:40] <formode> srizz, if you're going to use langauge like that, perhaps you should leave.
[05:40] <cplab2-58> keepsake; i386
[05:40] <huwenfeng> hi , i got two hard disk drive in my ubuntu, how can i get the io of each disk???
[05:40] <fryguy> terryx: glxinfo | grep -i direct  what is the output of that
[05:40] <formode> terryx, Try going System -> Preferences -> Appearance, then to the Visual Effects tab.
[05:40] <The_Undisputable> yes i386.iso
[05:40] <cplab2-58> srizz; if you want to abuse someone do so privately
[05:40] <fryguy> huwenfeng: can you clarify what you mean by io?
[05:41] <srizz> strange thing, i don't have to
[05:41] <huwenfeng> input and output traffic
[05:41] <srizz> perks of america
[05:41] <keepsake> cplab2-58: Go here http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy-updates/python-central, and download the package, and pen drive it to your other system and install it.
[05:41] <formode> srizz, This isn't America, Srizz.
[05:41] <huwenfeng> fryguy: means how busy the disk is
[05:41] <GodfatherofEire> srizz, theres always banning, too you know
[05:41] <formode> !Off-Topic | Srizz
[05:41] <fryguy> huwenfeng: try iostat
[05:42] <GodfatherofEire> Ok, ouch, well, I know that my system sounds work at least.
[05:42] <srizz> my mistake i must have gotten lost in all the wonderful support i wasn't getting
[05:42] <terryx> have done both
[05:42] <huwenfeng> fryguy: Oh, i am really a newbie,
[05:42] <keepsake> !patience
[05:42] <huwenfeng> fryguy: how can i just forget about that!
[05:42] <psypher246> srizz: what is your problem
[05:42] <formode> srizz, Maybe if you weren't so rude, and polled your question right, you know.
[05:43] <psypher246> srizz: what is the so gay problem you are having?
[05:44] <GodfatherofEire> Ok, so now that I partly have a fix, could somebody tell me how to re-enable sound on all my other non-system sounds?
[05:44] <srizz> my problem is your mom not leaving my house, how exactly should pole a question i asked...
[05:44] <dongs> okay. so. I get "udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1" in dmesg, about 10 seconds in. what gives??
[05:44] <cplab2-58> keepsake; so dumb of me...i searched the page..i can't find the download link..
[05:44] <keepsake> cplab2-58: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy-updates/all/python-central/download
[05:44] <psypher246> k well i wasn'[t online when  u asked so i am helping you now, despite the fact you seem to be acting like a child
[05:44] <psypher246> so take my help
[05:45] <keepsake> cplab2-58: Direct link: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python-central/python-central_0.6.7ubuntu0.1_all.deb
[05:45] <dongs> CAN SOMEONE ANSWER MY FUCKING QUESTION WHY IT AUTOMATICALLY RENAMES ETH0 TO ETH1 WITHOUT ASKING ME OR GIVING ANY EXPLANATION THANKS
[05:45] <wartalker> jhambo:you should try more times
[05:45] <keepsake> !patience | dongs
[05:45] <formode> dongs, Probably not when you ask like that.
[05:46] <dongs> keepsake: protip, unless you have something to contribute to my question, shut up.
[05:46] <MoLoot> do i need a firefox plugin to view .php sites?  The download prompt appears when I try to view a php file...
[05:46] <dongs> formode: I asked three times normally.
[05:46] <wartalker> jhambo:do you know the module for your wirelesscard
[05:46] <keepsake> dongs: protip, no one here is in any way obliged to help you.
[05:46] <cplab2-58> keepsake; i went to the direct link and downloaded..i found out that i have the same package in my pendrive...what do i do now
[05:46] <srizz> I APOLOGIZE FOR MY BEHAVIOR, im doing a thesis right now for part of my major at Randolf Macon, pretty much figuring out how little it take to get people going when they don't know who you are
[05:46] <formode> dongs, We don't work for Canonical, it's not our job. If one of us knows, we'll help. If we dont, we can't help.
[05:46] <fryguy> i was going to answer, but i don't want to bother getting involved in that hostility
[05:47] <keepsake> cplab2-58: When you install with dpkg, use the --force parameter.
[05:47] <dongs> formode: surely AUTOMATIC RENAMING OF ETH0 TO ETH1 ON BOOT IS DOCUMENTED SOMEWHERE.
[05:47] <dongs> except, I cant find any docs about it.
[05:47] <wartalker> jhambo: do you know the module for your wirelesscard
[05:47] <cplab2-58> keepsake; so where exactly does this --force come
[05:47] <psypher246> srizz: so u actually have fuckall to ask about ubuntu
[05:47] <formode> dongs, Search the forums, and the wiki, maybe? Also, you may purchase paid support if you want.
[05:47] <keepsake> cplab2-58: sudo dpkg -i -f package.deb
[05:47] <psypher246> your just here to work people up
[05:47] <keepsake> cplab2-58: or maybe it goes after, try both >__<
[05:48] <cplab2-58> keepsake thanxx
[05:48] <formode> srizz, That's a completely inappropriate way to go about that.
[05:49] <GodfatherofEire> Ok, would SOMEBODY please give me a hand here with my sound problems?
[05:49] <keepsake> Hey, does anyone notice that Word 2007 in wine can't do numbering properly?
[05:49] <psypher246> srizz: sounds just like an american to me. well in the words of another famous america, screw you guys (by that i mean srizz) i'm going home
[05:49] <psypher246> GodfatherofEire: wassup?
[05:50] <jhambo> wartalker: have a look at http://paste.debian.net/23943/ that shows the relevant modules that I have loaded.  I'm worried that maybe built in 2.6.27 modules are conflicting with the madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6 modules which I installed...
[05:50] <MrWizeGuy1983> anyone know what grub error 18 is and how to fix it?
[05:50] <cplab2-58> keepsake; after in the sense
[05:50] <fryguy> MrWizeGuy1983: could find /boot
[05:50] <srizz> ﻿psypher246: pardon
[05:50] <fryguy> MrWizeGuy1983: couldn't*
[05:50] <GodfatherofEire> psypher: pretty much, the system beep is working (over the headphones), but none of my other sounds are, and in Intrepid, where I can normally run more than one program with sound at once, I'm not able to do that at the moment
[05:50] <keepsake> cplab2-58: Did it work?
[05:50] <MrWizeGuy1983> fryguy, how do you fix that?
[05:50] <qcjn> it did what i want with commenting the old version..thanks..later i ll uninstall
[05:51] <fryguy> MrWizeGuy1983: install grub correctly
[05:51] <sleepy_cat> fryguy: Is it possible for me to install all the themes that have got installed
[05:51] <cplab2-58> keepsake; no\
[05:51] <MrWizeGuy1983> fryguy, it's a brand new install of ubuntu intrepid ibex 32 bit
[05:51] <keepsake> GodfatherofEire: Have you tried removing pulseaudio?
[05:51] <fryguy> sleepy_cat: no idea
[05:51] <sleepy_cat> that have come on the screen
[05:51] <jhambo> wartalker: believe me, I've tried everything I can think of (at least 5 times) to get the connection back up without rebooting
[05:51] <GodfatherofEire> keepsake: lemme give that a shot, but it was working even when that was installed
[05:51] <fryguy> MrWizeGuy1983: then ubuntu guessed your disks wrong and installed grub incorrectly
[05:51] <fryguy> !grub | MrWizeGuy1983
[05:51] <DanaG> grargh, I keep getting ASIC hangs in fglrx whenever I'm playing audio.
[05:51] <srizz> ﻿psypher246; your obviously retarded if you think cartman is a famous american, he's a cartoon
[05:51] <sleepy_cat> i did apt-cache search themes then a lot of themes came up on the terminal
[05:51] <sleepy_cat> now i want to install them
[05:52] <keepsake> GodfatherofEire: pulseaudio is known to fail at being nice to 8.10.
[05:52] <gizmo> !grub | gizmo
[05:52] <GodfatherofEire> keepsake: heres the wierd thing, it was working half an hour ago
[05:52] <keepsake> cplab2-58: It's still returning the same error?
[05:52] <gizmo> !grup | keepsake
[05:52] <srizz> formode: how else
[05:52] <wartalker> jhambo: modprobe -r ath5k && modprobe ath5k, i think your driver is not stable
[05:52] <gizmo> !grub | keepsake
[05:52] <keepsake> GodfatherofEire: Weird, I'm not sure what it is.
[05:52] <Ultraputz> if you run  "stat ~/dbus
[05:53] <GodfatherofEire> keepsake: I presume you also mean libpulse0 when you refer to pulseaudio?
[05:53] <Ultraputz> er
[05:53] <keepsake> gizmo: ?
[05:53] <Ultraputz> stat ~/.dbus --
[05:53] <Ultraputz> Access: (0700/drwx------)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    0/    root)
[05:53] <fryguy> sleepy_cat: apt-cache search themes | awk '{print $1}' > themelist.txt; nano themelist.txt ((remove the themes packages that you don't want to install)) ; cat themelist.txt | xargs sudo apt-get install
[05:53] <Ultraputz> and get that as a result -- are the permissions wrong ?
[05:53] <gizmo> nuthin i just testing keepsake
[05:53] <keepsake> GodfatherofEire: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=973637
[05:53] <FAJALOU> hi i want to change the 8.10 ubuntu shutdown screen to look like the one from 8.04 because I normally shutdown from that menu.  Unfortunately when i follow a tutorial, the application does not come to the top, but is hidden underneath, how can i force it to be on top?
[05:54] <jhambo> wartalker: yeah, I tried that too
[05:54] <srizz> and i said i apologize, and now with a even bigger FUCK YOU, im in american so if you don't like it fuck off, or we'll bomb the shit out of you(George W. Bush)
[05:54] <dongs> why do I get "udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1" in dmesg, about 10 seconds into the boot. it never asked me about it or given no explanation why.
[05:54] <FAJALOU> !language | srizz
[05:55] <_2> Ultraputz not if you want only the system to access that dir
[05:55] <fryguy> dongs: is it a wireless interface?
[05:55] <Ultraputz>  -- right -- but is that the normal, default settings?
[05:55] <dongs> no its not.
[05:55] <Ultraputz> would someone be willing to run " stat ~/.dbus" and paste the equivalent line ?
[05:55] <srizz> so anyone no why my screen keeps going black
[05:55] <DefamedPrawn> how do I execute a reboot by crontab? reboot seems to require root privelages
[05:55] <MrWizeGuy1983> fryguy, will i have to reinstall ubuntu on that older computer or is there a way to use livecd to modify grub's files to point to /boot correctly?
[05:55] <jhambo> wartalker: the connection usaually seems to die when I leave the computer for a several minutes.  Maybe related to the computer sleeping? exept that when I pass "noacpi" during boot I still have the same problem...
[05:55] <cplab2-58> keepsake; the thing is that it installed aptoncd...but not python...so i waqs able to install the remaining packages from the cd
[05:56] <DanaG> http://pastebin.com/f6f07fc7 --- ASIC hang.
[05:56] <fryguy> MrWizeGuy1983: second link from the bot factoid that i pasted to you
[05:56] <cplab2-58> keepsake; not cd..i meant pend drive
[05:56] <FAJALOU> hi i want to change the 8.10 ubuntu shutdown screen to look like the one from 8.04 because I normally shutdown from that menu.  Unfortunately when i follow a tutorial, the application does not come to the top, but is hidden underneath, how can i force it to be on top?
[05:56] <MrWizeGuy1983> reading that one right now
[05:56] <keepsake> cplab2-58: Where is the problem then? (sorry if that sounded rude, was not my intention)
[05:56] <_2> DefamedPrawn the system crontab can
[05:56] <Fishy> how can you read .chm help files on ubuntu
[05:56] <psypher246> Fishy: there is a chm reader
[05:56] <dongs> why the crap would anything rename anything for any reason.
[05:56] <psypher246> hold lemme check quick
[05:56] <dongs> this is fucking stupid.
[05:57] <DefamedPrawn> _2 so just set reboot anyway, as user?
[05:57] <GodfatherofEire> keepsake: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect: Connection refused
[05:57] <DefamedPrawn> _2 so just set reboot on crontab anyway, as user?
[05:57] <GodfatherofEire> Halp
[05:57] <srizz> dongs: i agree
[05:57] <fryguy> Fishy: gnochm
[05:57] <wartalker> jhambo: i do not know why, i think you should update your wireless driver
[05:57] <_2> DefamedPrawn no. as root
[05:57] <keepsake> GodfatherofEire: Did you "sudo"?
[05:57] <jhambo> wartalker: I'm using the most up to date :(
[05:57] <GodfatherofEire> keepsake, yeah
[05:57] <DefamedPrawn> _2 tried that, just got the error no crontab for root
[05:58] <sleepy_cat> fryguy:  xargs sudo apt-get install doesnt happen anything
[05:58] <fryguy> sleepy_cat: cat themelist.txt | xargs sudo apt-get install
[05:58] <MrWizeGuy1983> fryguy, i did all the partitioning within ubuntu and made a / and a /home and those are the only two partitions (other than the 4gb swap space).  how could it have guessed wrong about where /boot is?
[05:58] <fryguy> sleepy_cat: like i said originally.  pay attention
[05:58] <Fishy> psypher246, gnochm the one you talking about?
[05:58] <_2> DefamedPrawn </rolls eyes>  /etc/crontab maybe.
[05:58] <FAJALOU> hi i want to change the 8.10 ubuntu shutdown screen to look like the one from 8.04 because I normally shutdown from that menu.  Unfortunately when i follow a tutorial, the application does not come to the top, but is hidden underneath, how can i force it to be on top?
[05:58] <srizz> GodfatherofEire: try sudo-ing your my it works ever time for me
[05:58] <keepsake> GodfatherofEire: I don't know what the problem is there, sorry =(
[05:58] <fryguy> MrWizeGuy1983: no idea
[05:58] <Asathoor> Ubuntu 8.10 can't recognize my internal sd-card reader
[05:58] <psypher246> i think so
[05:58] <fryguy> MrWizeGuy1983: multiple hard drives, failing hard drive, bad luck
[05:58] <GodfatherofEire> keepsake, no problem
[05:58] <wartalker> jhambo: do you see the log, maybe find something
[05:58] <keepsake> GodfatherofEire: If you stuck "sudo" in front of it, and it didn't work, then I'm clueless =P
[05:59] <GodfatherofEire> Well, I'm gonna give this thing an old fashioned xorg restart
[05:59] <MrWizeGuy1983> must be option 3 fryguy it's happened on two different older computers that ran windows xp perfectly
[05:59] <dongs> why does udev (or whatever) need to rename interfaces for no reason?
[05:59] <sleepy_cat> ok i did it
[05:59] <sleepy_cat> nothing seemed to happen as such
[06:00] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: problem of mounting ntfs solved... i don't know if you saw my question about it being auto-mounted in ~/.gvfs
[06:00] <keepsake> onetinsoldier: Is it in your /etc/fstab somewhere?
[06:00] <fryguy> dongs: did you use to have a different network card installed and/or enabled in bios and you changed the set of enabled network cards in your system?
[06:00] <dongs> no
[06:00] <sleepy_cat> fryguy: I did what u said paying close attention.. i went into preference and saw the list of themes none new
[06:00] <onetinsoldier> keepsake: it takes a little explaining
[06:00] <Geoffrey2> curious...latest Firefox update includes a canonical version number....I don't remember seeing that in prior versions....
[06:00] <sleepy_cat> Appearance
[06:00] <dongs> its a new freaking install. 1) installed, no lan, 2) added lan, 3) reboot.
[06:00] <LSbTJzgefXMjGRH_> hi all. I removed samba and re-installed it again but it wont re-create the /etc/samba folder. Is there a way to do a clean re-install ?
[06:00] <_2> MrWizeGuy1983 try making a small /boot partition   grub is weak throught it's use of bios.
[06:00] <psypher246> damnit FF crashed again. lesson one, if your pc works, DON'T RUN  UPADTES!!
[06:00] <keepsake> onetinsoldier: "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[06:01] <onetinsoldier> keepsake: but yes... i put in my /etc/fstab
[06:01] <fryguy> dongs: how many network cards are onboard? and how many are you using?
[06:01] <Asathoor> how can I make ubuntu 8.10 read my sd card?
[06:01] <MrWizeGuy1983> i guess i could resize one of the partitions, how many megs/gigs does /boot need to be and do i need to reinstall or just make it?
[06:01] <_2> MrWizeGuy1983 50m should be enough   over a gig is wasteful
[06:01] <DarkFuzion> whats up
[06:01] <Lou_> I have a real strange problem: no browser can read my home directory. In fact they crash when they try. I thought ownership or mode might have got change accidentally, but that doesn't seem to be the case. What else could be wrong?
[06:01] <fryguy> MrWizeGuy1983: 256mb should be fine, but you probably don't need to do this
[06:01] <evilGUI> sup
[06:01] <MrWizeGuy1983> will it use it if i just use a livecd to make it and keep the current installation?
[06:02] <dongs> fryguy: one
[06:02] <DarkFuzion> how do i change servwer in pigin
[06:02] <formode> Hello, my friend's trying to get her iMac 2.0ghz to run ubuntu, but her Wifi won't work. We have her networks SSID and passkey, however I don't think her WIFI card is working, it is a Broadcom. Anyone know any way to get it to work?
[06:02] <fryguy> dongs: and you disabled this during the install and then re-enabled it after you installed?
[06:02] <_2> MrWizeGuy1983 just make the partition, mount it some place like /mnt  copy the content of /boot to /mnt remount it on /boot and run grub-install
[06:02] <dongs> fryguy: it wasnt there during install.
[06:03] <Until_It_Sleeps> How do I install a GDM theme in Ubuntu?
[06:03] <evilGUI> formode: find the model and or device id and google it
[06:03] <fukinskanks> jersey in the house what up peeps
[06:03] <fryguy> formode: there is a restricted driver for it available in 8.10.  if you are using 8.04, you'll need to use ndiswrapper
[06:03] <onetinsoldier> keepsake: i put it in my /etc/fstab, and didn't realize that was why, i suddenly had my windows partition as a clickable icon on Desktop, and it being listed as a mount in ~/.gvfs when i typed...  mount. took it out of my /etc/fstab, and now the auto-mounting has stopped
[06:03] <formode> evilGUI, Alright, I'll try that. :)
[06:03] <fryguy> dongs, it's an onboard card though, how was it "not there"
[06:03] <psypher246> Fishy: http://www.linux.com/feature/122171
[06:03] <keepsake> onetinsoldier: I see, so it's all clear now?
[06:03] <_2> MrWizeGuy1983 you can do all that within a chroot within the live CD    or amend the thought so as to not use a chroot.
[06:03] <onetinsoldier> keepsake: pretty much
[06:03] <DarkFuzion> whats a good irc chat client
[06:03] <keepsake> onetinsoldier: Okay, that's good.
[06:03] <formode> fryguy, the problem is, that she doesn't have internet access outside of wifi, and her CD drive is taken by the livecd. :(
[06:03] <fryguy> DarkFuzion: irssi
[06:03] <dongs> fryguy: ever herad of pci slots?
[06:03] <DarkFuzion> irssi
[06:03] <DarkFuzion> cool cool
[06:04] <fryguy> dongs: i was asking you about onboard motherboard cards, please pay attention
[06:04] <DarkFuzion> thanks
[06:04] <dongs> fryguy: i never said there was anything onboard.
[06:04] <onetinsoldier> DarkFuzion: hello, how ya doing?
[06:04] <Until_It_Sleeps> Hehehe, 'Dongs'
[06:04] <fryguy> dongs: so your motherboard has 0 ethernet cards onboard?
[06:04] <GodfatherofEire> keepsake, whats that command for opening up the sound from the terminal, like the equalizer/volume?
[06:04] <dongs> correct.
[06:04] <fryguy> what board is it?
[06:04] <dongs> i dont see how this is relevant at all
[06:04] <Until_It_Sleeps> Help? How do I install a GDM theme in Ubuntu?
[06:04] <dongs> to my question
[06:04] <_2> !grub > MrWizeGuy1983
[06:05] <dongs> as to whey hte fuck udev renames the interface.
[06:05] <formode> until_it_sleeps, try in the login control panel. :)
[06:05] <fryguy> dongs: if a different eth0 existed at one time, it will be reserved for that card in the future
[06:05] <dongs> there are no other network cards, or onboard network, or whatever you're trying to hint at.
[06:05] <formode> dongs, "Fuck" is not a comma.
[06:05] <MrWizeGuy1983> i don't remember the code to mount things
[06:05] <psypher246> GodfatherofEire: alsamixer
[06:05] <fryguy> MrWizeGuy1983: so then look at the manpage for mount
[06:05] <GodfatherofEire> psypher246, thanks
[06:06] <b3z3rk3r> anyone tell me how to kill the pc speaker in Ubuntu?
[06:06] <MrWizeGuy1983> it was some thing like mount -t
[06:06] <MrWizeGuy1983> but i forget the rest, oh well
[06:06] <formode> Hello, my friend's trying to get her iMac 2.0ghz to run ubuntu, but her Wifi won't work. We have her networks SSID and passkey, however I don't think her WIFI card is working, it is a Broadcom. Anyone know any way to get it to work? (Note she can't access internet without wifi)
[06:06] <dongs> fryguy: great, so how do i disable this.
[06:06] <Asathoor> how to mount sd cards automatically?
[06:07] <fryguy> dongs: udev rules
[06:07] <_2> MrWizeGuy1983 mount /dev/<devicenodehere> /mnt/
[06:07] <keepsake> b3z3rk3r: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:07] <dongs> udev: command not found.
[06:07] <MrWizeGuy1983> thanks
[06:07] <fryguy> formode: i already told you the answer to your question.  If she doesn't have wifi she is out of luck.  she needs an internet connection to get it
[06:07] <Until_It_Sleeps> formode: what?
[06:07] <dongs> why the fuck do i ahve to edit some weird shit to get stuff to work. why cant it JUST WORK like it does in windows.
[06:07] <MrWizeGuy1983> _2 is on fire tonight, thank you
[06:07] <keepsake> b3z3rk3r: Then add a line called "blacklist pcspkr"
[06:07] <psypher246> dongs: when has shit ever just worked in windows???
[06:07] <keepsake> b3z3rk3r: and then it'll be gone for good
[06:07] <fryguy> dongs: if everything just worked in windows, then why are you replacing it?
[06:08] <Until_It_Sleeps> Login control panel?
[06:08] <fryguy> psypher246: does for me
[06:08] <b3z3rk3r> keepsake, just add that to the end?
[06:08] <dongs> fryguy: im not
[06:08] <psypher246> i struggle just as much at linux and in windows with drivers and crap
[06:08] <keepsake> b3z3rk3r: Yup
[06:08] <_2> MrWizeGuy1983 the option remount can be used to move where a thing is mounted.   mount -o remount /dev/devicenodehere /new/mountpoint
[06:08] <b3z3rk3r> keepsake, reboot needed?
[06:08] <fryguy> dongs: if you aren't replacing windows, then why are you in here asking questions about installing ubuntu?
[06:08] <dongs> psypher246: try buying hardware from this century, thanks
[06:08] <keepsake> b3z3rk3r: Likely, since it blacklists at boot I think.
[06:08] <formode> fryguy, would there be a way for her to put the .deb of it somewhere on her computer so she could get it when she was on ubuntu? Last I recall, Ubuntu does not recognize the mac filesystem.
[06:08] <GodfatherofEire> OK, still no luck with the sound
[06:08] <psypher246> dongs: um  ok, sure
[06:08] <MrWizeGuy1983> thanks _2
[06:09] <fryguy> formode: ubuntu works with HFS+ fine from what i remember
[06:09] <b3z3rk3r> keepsake, thx.. will give it a go now.. nautilus required?
[06:09] <formode> dongs, less rude?
[06:09] <psypher246> dell m6300 laptop is so last century
[06:09] <Until_It_Sleeps> !Login control panel
[06:09] <_2> !ops dongs has been asked several times to use proper language in here.
[06:09] <fryguy> formode: read does at least, unsure about write
[06:09] <formode> fryguy, it wasn't working 3 months ago when I checked. :-/
[06:09] <Until_It_Sleeps> :(
[06:09] <formode> fryguy, Hm, ok, I'll try that.
[06:09] <Lou_> Does Nautilus leave error messages in a file someplace when it crashes?
[06:09] <keepsake> b3z3rk3r: Nope, just gedit or something of the like.
[06:09] <keepsake> Lou_: Check dmesg
[06:09] <Slart> Lou_: the syslog perhaps
[06:09] <formode> fryguy, Thanks.
[06:09] <dongs> psypher246: i install windows on hundreds of dell laptops from this and last century and have zero problems wiht them.
[06:09] <Until_It_Sleeps> how do I get to this 'login control panel'?
[06:09] <psypher246> formode: i'm curious though, how do you get udev to make a device eth0 or eth1
[06:10] <dongs> psypher246: i guess maybe thats just you in this case.
[06:10] <psypher246> must be
[06:10] <b3z3rk3r> keepsake, nice, thx.. if i dont come back it worked :P   thanks again
[06:10] <fryguy> dongs: so then why not just continue using windows?
[06:10] <Slart> dongs, psypher246: can we keep it on topic? there is an offtopic channel for this kind of chatter
[06:10] <keepsake> b3z3rk3r: Good luck! =)
[06:10] <onetinsoldier> dongs: windows has about 1/1000 the flexibility and configurability of linux
[06:10] <Lou_> keepsake and Slart, thanks. I check there.
[06:10] <psypher246> Slart: sorry
[06:10] <keepsake> onetinsoldier: True, but I do miss a lot of programs in Windows =P
[06:10] <MrWizeGuy1983> more viruses are made for windows in a month than exist in total for linux
[06:10] <formode> psypher246, I frankly have no idea. If I was going on a wing, I've play with /dev... You could also check the wiki.
[06:10] <dongs> onetinsoldier: thats fine. i dont need "flexibility", i need usability. right now, im wasting time because it decided to arbitrarily rename a network interface without asking the user.
[06:11] <Until_It_Sleeps> how do I get to this 'login control panel'?
[06:11] <psypher246> formode: yeah i had the issue with a server, in the end, who cares if it's eth0 or 1 ruight?
[06:11] <formode> psypher246, Apparently you? :-P
[06:11] <Slart> Until_It_Sleeps: it isn't in system, administration ?
[06:11] <dongs> and time is more important than flexibility or configurability or hwatever the fuck, because time is money, unless you're in your parents basement, that is.
[06:11] <psypher246> nah i'm just curious, dongs is the one who is freaked out by it
[06:11] <GodfatherofEire> Ok, anybody else know how/what is going on with my systems sound at the moment, cause I havent got a bloody clue
[06:11] <_2> !ops
[06:11] <psypher246> wait till he has a rela problem, like his browsers crash 90% of the time
[06:11] <formode> dongs, Maybe you should take note of the IRC rules?
[06:12] <MrWizeGuy1983> dongs, enjoy your windows viruses
[06:12] <onetinsoldier> keepsake and dongs: i don't know why, from my message and your two guys responses.. i am having a major de ja vu moment
[06:12] <DBO> something wrong _2?
[06:12] <fryguy> dongs: so then go install windows
[06:12] <_2> ops,     dongs has been asked several times to use proper language in here.
[06:12] <formode> psypher246, is that your problem?
[06:12] <keepsake> onetinsoldier: haha
[06:12] <psypher246> yup
[06:12] <dongs> fryguy: i do, and i have no problems with it.
[06:12] <Until_It_Sleeps> slart: Um, I see a "login window" but not a 'login contol panel', unless thats supposed to be it...
[06:12] <dongs> fryguy: do you see me asking ridiculous questions in #windows?
[06:12] <dongs> fryguy: i'm here because shit doesnt work.
[06:12] <formode> until_it_sleeps, that's the one!
[06:12] <dongs> this is pretty simple and basic.
[06:12] <DBO> dongs, please watch your language
[06:12] <Slart> Until_It_Sleeps: that might be it.. they change names every now and then =)
[06:12] <Until_It_Sleeps> :D
[06:13] <MrWizeGuy1983> dongs, calm down, you're obviously not smart enough to configure ubuntu so use a microsoft product or pay someone
[06:13] <formode> pyspher246, Hm, did you try compiling it from a nightly build?
[06:13] <dongs> everyone in here so far has told me to 'watch my language', 'just ask and sit and wait', 'be more polite', yadda yadda, but has so far not produced a single useful comment regarding my actual problem.
[06:13] <dongs> MrWizeGuy1983: i will paypal you $20 if you fix my problem in the next 5 minuts
[06:13] <DBO> dongs, maybe I can help, can you restate your problem?
[06:13] <formode> dongs, so go buy support. None of us here "have" to help you. :-P
[06:13] <keepsake> dongs, if we knew how to fix it, we'd have said something. We aren't the developers of the system.
[06:13] <psypher246> dongs, here is why i use linux. stuff i cannot do in windows i can do easily with linux, no virusses, generall more stable and it's just better in everry way. everyday i find a new reason to rather stick with linux
[06:13] <dongs> MrWizeGuy1983: the problem is, you're too fucking chicken to even put your actions where your mouth is.
[06:13] <fryguy> dongs: so why are you here.  If you are having unresolvable problems with ubuntu, and you don't want to take the time to investigate a solution, go run windows and enjoy your machine
[06:13] <Slart> dongs: we're only users, we are not employed by canonical.. if you want someone to yell at you can pay them for that service
[06:13] <MrWizeGuy1983> dongs, i meant pay someone who lives there, and i'd recommend ndispluginwrapper
[06:14] <dongs> MrWizeGuy1983: you dont even know what my problem is, and you're already recommending some ridiculous unrelated solution.
[06:14] <MrWizeGuy1983> .....
[06:14] <MrWizeGuy1983> it lets you use windows drivers for wireless cards...
[06:14] <MrWizeGuy1983> it's directly related to your issue
[06:14] <formode> dongs, you're not getting help because your insulting half the channel, just so you know.
[06:14] <fryguy> MrWizeGuy1983: he doesn't have a wireless card
[06:14] <dongs> MrWizeGuy1983: this is not a wirless card.
[06:15] <dongs> and hte card is working just fine... at eth1
[06:15] <GodfatherofEire> OK, I could REALLY use some help with gettin the sound working. Cause I havent a clue what is going on with it
[06:15] <dongs> right after udev renames it for no reason.
[06:15] <formode> godfatherofeire, When did it stop working?
[06:15] <\\`oot> Hi - is shockwave (.swf) support native in 8.10?
[06:15] <GodfatherofEire> formode, bout an hour ago
[06:15] <psypher246> dongs:  a really simple google search would also help
[06:15] <onetinsoldier> dongs: i was busy for a while trying to figure out my own stuff here. i suppose the obvious has been covered... like cat /etc/network/interfaces
[06:15] <dongs> psypher246: been there done that.
[06:15] <Slart> \\`oot: 32-bit flash and soon 64 bit flash are available in linux
[06:15] <GodfatherofEire> Make that an hour and a half
[06:15] <MrWizeGuy1983> \\`oot, kinda, firefox has the default plugin and installs flash for you when prompted
[06:15] <dongs> onetinsoldier: yes, obviously.
[06:15] <psypher246> http://debianclusters.cs.uni.edu/index.php/Udev:_Renaming_Network_Interfaces; http://www.easyzonecorp.net/network/view.php?ID=897; http://flipsidereality.com/blog/nix/rename-hardware-devices-like-eth0-using-udev-for-linux/
[06:16] <keepsake> \\`oot: Not native, but available.
[06:16] <onetinsoldier> dongs: k
[06:16] <formode> godfatherofeire, would you try (Close all sound using apps first) please use "sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload"
[06:16] <Slart> \\`oot: there aren't to many flash content creation tools available though
[06:16] <Until_It_Sleeps> The Login prefrences window does not see my theme archive
[06:16] <\\`oot> keepsake: OK... I've hit a page with a bunch of .swf file, but when I click them FireFox wants to download 'em?
[06:16] <Until_It_Sleeps> file extension is .bz2
[06:16] <MrWizeGuy1983> \\`oot, go to youtube and it will ask you to install flash
[06:16] <keepsake> \\`oot: Weird, do you have the plug-in installed? Check about:plugins.
[06:17] <GodfatherofEire> formode: no luck
[06:17] <cplab2-58> hey can anyone tell me how to solve this http://paste.ubuntu.com/87576/
[06:17] <\\`oot> Shockwave flash is installed, yes
[06:17] <formode> godfatherofeire, have you restarted?
[06:17] <GodfatherofEire> formode: yep
[06:17] <formode> formode, have you possibly changed something in your bios/administration or anything?
[06:17] <transporter> hi i just found a few commands that could solve my problem could somebody help me in how should i type them in becoz i get a very unusual output with a lot of options
[06:18] <formode> godfatherofeire,  have you possibly changed something in your bios/administration or anything?
[06:18] <keepsake> cplab2-58: You can't use apt-get to install if you can't connect to the web servers.
[06:18] <keepsake> cplab2-58: Download the .deb files and install them manually.
[06:18] <GodfatherofEire> foremode: shouldnt have
[06:18] <keepsake> \\`oot: Are you using proprietary Flash plug-ins from Adobe?
[06:18] <formode> godfatherofeire, That's strange.
[06:18] <GodfatherofEire> Indeed
[06:19] <\\`oot> keepsake: No?  this is a standard install
[06:19] <acc_> Hi, #Ubuntu.  I'm trying to do an aptitude safe-upgrade on Hardy, but I'm unable to do so because I'm missing a gpg key to verify linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-21-generic.  I've Googled for at least an hour with no luck.  Any ideas where I might find it?
[06:19] <formode> godfatherofeire, if you go system -> Administration -> Sounds and tell me if it's detecting anything?
[06:20] <GodfatherofEire> formodel yep
[06:20] <Slart> acc_: those keys are usually available through the repository website.. they must be someone on ubuntu.com
[06:20] <Slart> acc_: someone/somewhere
[06:20] <keepsake> \\`oot: Try installing those.
[06:20] <formode> godfatherofeire, Can you try changing the playback options, then trying your sound?
[06:20] <\\`oot> OK
[06:20] <\\`oot> thx
[06:21] <transporter> hi i just found a few commands that could solve my problem could somebody help me in how should i type them in becoz i get a very unusual output with a lot of options
[06:21] <acc_> Slart: How can I find out who signed it?
[06:21] <darkfuzion_> im on Xchat now how can you add servers
[06:21] <GodfatherofEire> formode: I think... I got it.... ow,,, damn it
[06:21] <onetinsoldier> darkfuzion_: howdy!
[06:21] <GodfatherofEire> Sound was all the way up
[06:21] <formode> godfatherofeire, haha. ^^ Yay.
[06:21] <fryguy> dongs: btw the file i was talking about is /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net-rules
[06:21] <darkfuzion_> hey one
[06:22] <darkfuzion_> i installed compiz fuzion and it all works
[06:22] <formode> Gah, so is there a reason that, when moving a partition, that gparted copies even free space byte for byte?
[06:22] <fryguy> formode: because it can't know what is free space and what isn't
[06:22] <Until_It_Sleeps> It sees my other archived files, the ones with .gz extension, but not the ones with the /bz2 extension....
[06:22] <onetinsoldier> darkfuzion_: sweet! w00oties :-)
[06:22] <master_> I have a compaq presario c50, ,,just installed ubuntu on it (8.10)...wifi is not working....can anyone help please?...I'm new to this OS
[06:23] <Until_It_Sleeps> .bz2*
[06:23] <formode> fryguy, Ah. :-/ That would be a nice feature, it's a clean windows install on a 60 gb partition, so there's like 55 gb of free space.
[06:23] <onetinsoldier> darkfuzion_: for your question... at the top menu... XChat --> Network List
[06:23] <Until_It_Sleeps> Hello?
[06:23] <_2> formode because you are coping a aprtition, and not just the fs.   i.e. it isn't reading the content it's just moving it.
[06:23] <fryguy> formode: it would also probably be longer to rewrite all of the inode tables so that everything could get rewritten correctly and not move free space
[06:24] <derklempner> Can anyone tell me how much system memory Firefox should be using when running?  My running processes shows it using more than 80MB...
[06:24] <fryguy> derklempner: it'll use however much it needs/can use
[06:24] <fryguy> derklempner: i've had my firefox processes using in excess of 2gb of ram before
[06:24] <dongs> lol 80mb...
[06:24] <keepsake> derklempner: That's normal, don't worry.
[06:24] <formode> fryguy, I kind of want it to just, delete itself now. :-P
[06:24] <Slart> acc_: I couldn't find them in this short time but the keys aren't secret.. they are probably listed somewhere on a webpage, perhaps the ubuntu wiki
[06:24] <master_> I have a compaq presario c50, ,,just installed ubuntu on it (8.10)...wifi is not working....can anyone help please?...I'm new to this OS
[06:24] <Slart> acc_: but I have to get going if I'm going to get to work on time so ask the channel again if you don't find them
[06:25] <acc_> Slart: thanks
[06:25] <juancabrito> there's an icon in the top cormer which seems like something about not being connected to a network, but I do have internet, what could it be? this is happening after the last update of the system.
[06:25] <fryguy> dongs: you bother looking at that file that i told you to look at?
[06:25] <dongs> fryguy: yes, there's shit in there. can i just delete it.
[06:25] <fryguy> dongs: no
[06:25] <transporter> hi i just found a few commands that could solve my problem could somebody help me in how should i type them in becoz i get a very unusual output with a lot of options
[06:25] <dongs> i mean the contents.
[06:25] <onetinsoldier> derklempner: how long have you had it open and how many Tabs do you have open?
[06:25] <fryguy> dongs: probably
[06:25] <darkfuzion_> ack i need to get to irc.dashhacks.com in Xchat
[06:25] <derklempner> onetinsoldier: about 45 minutes with three open tabs.
[06:26] <_2> darkfuzion_ /server irc.dashhacks.com
[06:26] <zhjawe> derklempner: Epiphany Web is a lighte weight web browser,try it,ha ha.
[06:26] <derklempner> onetinsoldier: Ands it's hanging right now.  Seems to do this a lot, sometimes right after I open the program with just one tab.
[06:26] <dongs> deleted, rebooting
[06:26] <keepsake> transporter: What are you trying to type in?
[06:26] <formode> Will cancelling a partition move (Of windows) ruin any other partitions? I don't want the one windows partition anymore.
[06:26] <darkfuzion_> thanks
[06:27] <fryguy> formode: it could
[06:27] <onetinsoldier> derklempner: ok, 80 MB doesn't sound too unusual.. i just opened mine a couple minutes ago.. and have done nothing with it. lookslike it's using about 57 MB
[06:27] <keepsake> formode: You can probably just delete the partition altogether
[06:27] <p3n1x> installing 64bit ubuntu using my x-fi music and 9800gtx should build fine with the drivers. and support my 24in wide ok too?
[06:27] <fryguy> p3n1x: sure
[06:27] <dongs> fryguy: well, at least its back on eth0.
[06:27] <p3n1x> ive found the 64bit drievrs for both so assuming all goes well
[06:27] <_2> darkfuzion_ also  /join #channel_name
[06:27] <keepsake> formode: However, don't risk it =P
[06:27] <Spherous> !grub
[06:27] <transporter> keepsake: well i found a thread on ubuntuforums.org well it could solve my problem with the woofer issue
[06:27] <onetinsoldier> derklempner: it's hanging? hmm, mine never does that.
[06:27] <jengc0il> hello w0rld
[06:27] <GodfatherofEire1> formode, keepsake, have either of you noticed a BIG problem with the bass levels in intrepid?
[06:27] <Spherous> Just needed to get myself the link to tell me how to restore grub :D
[06:27] <formode> fryguy,keepsake, it's in the process of moving the partition right now. :-P It would be wise to just let it finish for it's 3 hour thing?
[06:27] <jengc0il> i'm now IBEX user
[06:27] <formode> godfatherofeire1, Not at all.
[06:28] <transporter> keepsake: i did not understand what exactly the author of the thread tried to write and am bit confused
[06:28] <formode> godfatheroseire1, my sound is actually better then windows gives me.
[06:28] <derklempner> onetinsoldier: Yeah, it sometimes comes back after a few minutes, but it's been over five minutes now and doesn't seem like it's going to recover.
[06:28] <GodfatherofEire1> formode: why I switched from windows: I had no sound
[06:28] <onetinsoldier> derklempner: roger. i'm sorry to hear that
[06:28] <fryguy> GodfatherofEire1: ubuntu outputs bitperfect digital streams for me, just like it does in windows
[06:29] <formode> godfatherofeire1, then your one step father. :) Try using different settings in the sound preferences.
[06:29] <keepsake> formode: Definitely =P
[06:29] <keepsake> transporter: Can you link me to the thread, and tell me what command you're having problems with?
[06:29] <formode> keepsake. :( I wanted to osx86 my computer tonight, not tommorow. :-/
[06:29] <derklempner> onetinsoldier: Could it be an issue with my RAM?  I mixed types to go from 1GB to 1.5GB, and I'm thinking that may be the culprit.  I've had other odd happenings as well.
[06:29] <GodfatherofEire1> formode, unfortunately, I'd basically need a system-wide equalizer, but the only thing I know of for that is jackd, etc
[06:29] <onetinsoldier> derklempner: my only thought would be for you to rename(mv) your ~/.mozilla dir and see if that helps
[06:29] <acc_> Hi, #Ubuntu.  I'm trying to do an aptitude safe-upgrade on Hardy, but I'm unable to do so because I'm missing a gpg key to verify linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-21-generic.  I've Googled for at least an hour with no luck.  Any ideas where I might find it?
[06:29] <transporter> keepsake: sure here it is ......... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=687663&page=2
[06:30] <darkfuzion_> thats all in the network add part
[06:30] <darkfuzion_> thats in the network add part
[06:30] <onetinsoldier> derklempner: yes.. that could have something to do with your issues.
[06:30] <keepsake> transporter: What is the command you're having problems with?
[06:30] <formode> godfatherofeire1, I mean try changing your soundsystem. :) Pulse, Alsa, and oss all could yeild different results.
[06:30] <transporter> keepsake: the last one
[06:30] <keepsake> transporter: Can you paste that command?
[06:31] <derklempner> onetinsoldier: I figured as much, just wanted confirmation.  Thanks for the input.
[06:31] <transporter> k
[06:31] <GodfatherofEire1> formode: Oss is crackly, I removed pulsee, and ALSA is a little bass over driven it seems, but then again I'm running on a laptop
[06:31] <formode> Note to self, never, ever move a partition again. :-P
[06:31] <saranya> anyone know how to read dailythanthi in ubuntu
[06:31] <transporter> sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[06:31] <transporter> keepsake: sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[06:31] <Lou_> Dec 18 09:43:44 lat-ws kernel: [25625.192700] nautilus[23198]: segfault at 746178 ip b72abd31 sp b39fee48 error 4 in libc-2.8.90.so[b723c000+158000]
[06:31] <formode> godfatherofeire1, Then that's probably the best you're going to get for now. :)
[06:31] <GodfatherofEire1> formode: yeah, I learned that the hard way yesterday
[06:32] <GodfatherofEire1> With the partition stuff that is
[06:32] <transporter> keepsake: and then i don't realize what the guy means by i added this as the last line
[06:32] <Lou_> What does that mean?
[06:32] <formode> godfatherofeire1, 4 hours to move 60gb? QQ My LAN is faster.
[06:32] <fryguy> Lou_: it means you probably have failing hardware
[06:32] <GodfatherofEire1> formode: well, at least you didnt lose that 60 gigs, like I lost mine cause of a screwed up partition
[06:33] <keepsake> transporter: Okay so, what you do is
[06:33] <saranya> how to read dailythanthi in ubuntu please tell me, i am the new user of ubuntu
[06:33] <GodfatherofEire1> My primary at that, and I had no back up
[06:33] <fryguy> formode: because you are dealing directly with partition tables, you can't do readahead or anything, so it's going to go slow, for safety's sake
[06:33] <Lou_> fryguy, does it say what hardware is failing?
[06:33] <DefamedPrawn>  ok, I have a 4Gig partition, with 4k used, and only 380Gig available. Why is that?
[06:33] <keepsake> transporter: Press Alt+F2, then type in "gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base"
[06:33] <formode> godfatherofeire, Actually, at this point, I kind of want to just delete it haha.
[06:33] <onetinsoldier> derklempner: you should run 'memtest86+.  apt-cache show memtest86+
[06:33] <transporter> keepsake: im sorry i did not understand ur question
[06:33] <b1n42y> hi all, installed a bunch of packages including bind, apache2, net work managers, sniffers, etc from standard repos now i cant ssh to desktop, browse internet etc, I do believe my hosts file is empty (by way of some network manager gui)
[06:33] <fryguy> Lou_: segfaults usually indicate cpu or ram failing or running out of spec
[06:33] <formode> fryguy, I understand that. :)
[06:33] <yowshi1> anyone know any goiod programmes for helping one build a webpage?
[06:33] <ce_ePhezn> konnichiwa
[06:33] <fryguy> yowshi1: vim is a nice editor
[06:34] <keepsake> transporter: So first paste that command and run it, do you get a gedit window?
[06:34] <Lou_> fryguy, spec?
[06:34] <dwelz> vim is the shit
[06:34] <DefamedPrawn>  ok, I have a 400Gig partition, with 4k used, and only 380Gig available. Why is that?
[06:34] <fryguy> Lou_: specification
[06:34] <fryguy> Lou_: running overclocked, too hot, etc
[06:34] <keepsake> !jp | ce_ePhezn
[06:34] <yowshi1> fryguy: i use gedit but i was thinking omre like dreamweaver
[06:34] <transporter> keepsake: could not find the command
[06:34] <keepsake> transporter: Press alt+f2
[06:34] <jimmio> Hello all, any issues with QEMU and USB?... I'm installing Windows in QEMU just to sync my iPhone 3G...
[06:34] <fryguy> DefamedPrawn: the filesystem reserves 5% of the partition for system use
[06:34] <saranya> no one there  to answer my question ah
[06:34] <keepsake> transporter: Do you see a run application popup?
[06:34] <Lou_> fryguy, ok. Many thanks.
[06:34] <transporter> yes
[06:34] <DefamedPrawn> fryguy 20gig? I feel ripped off!
[06:35] <formode> jimmio, xD I'm still trying to get my ipod touch first gen to work haha
[06:35] <fryguy> Lou_: there could be other causes, but that's the most likely cause
[06:35] <keepsake> transporter: Type in "gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base"
[06:35] <Lou_> Ok, thanks.
[06:35] <transporter> keepsake: k done :D
[06:35] <ruhaan_jslip_> is there a download manger for ubuntu that is similar to flashget?
[06:35] <keepsake> transporter: Do you see a text-editor window?
[06:35] <transporter> keepsake: yes
[06:35] <b1n42y> ruhaan_jslip_: i know theres kget for kde desktop
[06:35] <GodfatherofEire1> Also, would I have any serious problems with rezizing a partition back to its original size? Like, I have a partition with Windoze (ACK), 20 gigs, would It be fine if I just removed it, and resized /dev/sda1 or would that screw me over royally. Again
[06:36] <keepsake> transporter: Okay, scroll alllll the way down, and then at the very end of the file
[06:36] <jimmio> formode: iTouch and iPhone is encrypted, much like Microsoft's Zune is... so, yeah, Ubuntu is out of the question right now.
[06:36] <transporter> keepsake: k
[06:36] <ruhaan_jslip_> b1n42y: kget doesnt support mutiple threeads
[06:36] <onetinsoldier> DefamedPrawn: when you install ubuntu, if using the option to manually set up your partitions, you can change that percentage
[06:36] <keepsake> transporter: Paste this text "options snd-hda-intel model=MODEL"
[06:36] <keepsake> transporter: But replace model with the model you're workign with
[06:36] <formode> jimmio, Mhm. :) Pre 2.0 we could SSH in via a BSD subsystem, but that's it.
[06:36] <DefamedPrawn> onetinsoldier could I change it now with gparted?
[06:36] <keepsake> transporter: So you can try this "options snd-hda-intel model=lenovo-ms7195-dig"
[06:36] <b1n42y> ruhaan_jslip_: dono then google linux download manager multiple thread support
[06:36] <WIGGMPk1> fryguy: segmentation faults are memory problems.. memory trying to write outside of its assigned locations.. trying to write to read only memory, etc
[06:37] <jimmio> formode: Now there's nothing?
[06:37] <formode> jimmio, so far. :-/
[06:37] <formode> jimmio, They changed the hashing.
[06:37] <jimmio> formode: I say we petition Apple... or boycott... or something =P
[06:37] <ruhaan_jslip_> i like d4x but it cany be minimized to tray
[06:37] <ruhaan_jslip_> which is a pita for me
[06:37] <fryguy> WIGGMPk1: memory is not the only hardware cause, an overclocked or overheating processor could cause it as well, as I just mentioned
[06:37] <formode> jimmio, I emailed steve jobs, got no reponse.
[06:38] <onetinsoldier> DefamedPrawn: hhmm, good question. actually, i would look at   man tune2fs
[06:38] <transporter> keepsake: k done
[06:38] <transporter> keepsake: now what do i do?
[06:38] <Neff1> anyone know why the installer would skip over "preparing partitions" and go to partition screen
[06:38] <Neff1> i'm using 8.10
[06:38] <jimmio> formode: Unless you're Mr. DevelopersDevelopersDevelopers, you're not going to.
[06:39] <fryguy> Neff1: ?
[06:39] <formode> jimmio, It's generally worth a try. :)
[06:39] <keepsake> transporter: Restart, and see if things work.
[06:39] <GodfatherofEire1> Also, does anybody in here know of a bootable (i.e. iso image or something similar) that I could use to remove a partion on my HD, and then resize the primary partition?
[06:39] <fryguy> Neff1: that doesn't make sense to me
[06:39] <fryguy> GodfatherofEire1: gparted has a livecd
[06:39] <onetinsoldier> DefamedPrawn: yes... with  tune2fs you 'can' change it.  it's -m option
[06:39] <transporter> keepsake: k will u be here?
[06:39] <yowshi1> fryguy: no? hmmm know any decent html guides for people who dcont know anythng about html?
[06:39] <psypher246> hi all, pls any assistance would be great. i have a completely unusable work PC right now. Cannot browse the internet on either Opera, epiphany or firefox. Since 2 weeks ago my browser just crashes all the time. I have tried safe mode, new profile, re-install ff, all plugins disabled, uninstall java, uninstall flash and a heavy system stress test. Nothing works. FF and other browsers will still randomly crash. I have started a forum post on the probl
[06:39] <b1n42y> Neff1: computers have a tendancy to do what they are told, mabye select a different radio box and watch your next button clicks, they are placed in the same spot on most pages during install
[06:39] <DefamedPrawn> onetinsoldier ta!
[06:39] <GodfatherofEire1> fryguy, thanks
[06:39] <psypher246> just repeating in case anyone has any new ideas
[06:39] <psypher246> tired disbaling compiz, does not work
[06:39] <fryguy> yowshi1: www.w3.org
[06:40] <onetinsoldier> DefamedPrawn: :-)
[06:40] <keepsake> transporter: Dunno, maybe =P
[06:40] <Neff1> fryguy: when you go to install, it will bring up the "prepare partition right?
[06:40] <transporter> keepsake: sweet answer
[06:40] <jimmio> formode: I should bring my laptop (Ubuntu 8.10) in to a Mac [genius] and say "It won't f___ing work! Fix it!" and watch as they go "Oh, it's not supported. Sorry. Buy a mac?"
[06:40] <transporter> keepsake: really brother stay i will be back and meet u in private chat
[06:40] <transporter> :p
[06:40] <GodfatherofEire1> fryguy, it shouldnt cause any problems, correct? Like mismatch between the physical reading and the superblock? cause I just lost all my data the other night to that problem.
[06:40] <WIGGMPk1> fryguy: have to disagree with you there.. sometimes (rarely) would it be caused by a faulty piece of hardware, but it is usually ( 9 out of 10 ) times directly related to memory writing where it shouldnt be.. usually caused by the program using bogus pointers
[06:40] <fryguy> jimmio: what would be the point of that?
[06:40] <keepsake> transporter: okay =P I'll try
[06:40] <yowshi1> fryguy: thats not a nice guide thats a complicated thingy thing where i dont know where to start
[06:40] <juancabrito> can i partition my disk from inside ubuntu to create a new one to install windows, maybe with vmware?
[06:41] <WIGGMPk1> juancabrito: you can create a virtual hard drive with VMWare to install an OS
[06:41] <RazorFTW|Styles> hey
[06:41] <jimmio> fryguy: To prove how horrible things are getting... everything should work with everything. Write one industry standard binary driver, and have all OS's support it. Done.
[06:41] <RazorFTW|Styles> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an iBook, and I'm having a problem... (ErrorNo: 5).
[06:41] <fryguy> WIGGMPk1: a segfault in a very common well known and tested mature application (like nautilus in this case), is pretty unlikely, which is why i suggested hardware failure first, and then mentioned the potential for other causes
[06:41] <RazorFTW|Styles> I/O Error
[06:41] <ce_ePhezn> hello
[06:41] <Until_It_Sleeps> How do I install this: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=70428&forumpage=0
[06:42] <darkfuzion_> wonders if i should install wine and make a full switch to linux
[06:42] <fryguy> jimmio: that's never been the case, and that will never be the case, and it's foolish to think so.
[06:42] <GodfatherofEire1> jimmio: then capitalism/competitive free markets would be in trouble
[06:42] <fryguy> jimmio: and if it WERE the case, things would probably be pretty bad
[06:42] <mylogic> do it darkfuzion_!
[06:42] <fryguy> jimmio: systems are built for different uses
[06:42] <juancabrito> WIGGMPk1: I know, but I was wandering if that could help improving the performance
[06:43] <WIGGMPk1> juancabrito: create a fixed disc image instead of using a dynamically expanding image and it would speed things up
[06:43] <jimmio> fryguy: I'm just sick of NEVER being able to use my OS of choice easily to do something that's "standard" stuff on Windows or Mac...
[06:43] <WIGGMPk1> juancabrito: plus, how much memory are you assigning to the VM, how many cores does your processor have.. its NOT going to run like a native install
[06:43] <Until_It_Sleeps> Help? Please?
[06:43] <_2> darkfuzion_ being new to it. i would sujest you dual boot for a while.   you can remove windows completely after you are comfortable with linux enough to fix your own oops's .
[06:43] <fryguy> jimmio: so pick one OS and stick to it
[06:43] <darkfuzion_> yeah
[06:44] <darkfuzion_> i agree
[06:44] <dongs> haha.. well now that network works, where's a not-5-years-outdated howto on setting up internet connection sharing?
[06:44] <jimmio> fryguy: Ubuntu. But wait, I have an iPhone! So both Ubuntu and Windows.
[06:44] <fryguy> or become a software engineer who deals with low-level APIs of multiple operating systems on a daily basis
[06:44] <b1n42y> !internet
[06:44] <WIGGMPk1> fryguy: true, I understand where your going with it.. but Windows XP SP2 is known and tested OS but it doesnt mean its not going to blue screen and not be the OS's fault
[06:44] <b1n42y> asif
[06:44] <_2> dongs why does the age of the howto matter ?
[06:44] <b1n42y> !network
[06:45] <fryguy> WIGGMPk1: it's very very rare for windows to blue screen due to something other than a hardware problem
[06:45] <WIGGMPk1> fryguy: just trying to say, most commonly, the problem is memory and the usage of it
[06:45] <GodfatherofEire1> fryguy: that gparted thing shouldnt screw up the superblock should it? Cause I lost all my data to that problem last night due to a faulty partition
[06:45] <dongs> _2: if it talks about 2.0 kernels, yes
[06:45] <juancabrito> WIGGMPk1: ok. Can I change to a fixed disk my current image?
[06:45] <sidhrt> My usb hard drive is not getting detected. anyone help, please...
[06:45] <_2> dongs whatever.
[06:45] <fryguy> GodfatherofEire1: it shouldn't, but they have warnings around every piece of partitioning software to make backups for a reason
[06:45] <keepsake> sidhrt: dmesg in Terminal and pastebin.
[06:45] <WIGGMPk1> juancabrito: that option has to be selected when you create the virtual disk
[06:45] <_2> dongs have a look at  http://howtoforge.com
[06:45] <GodfatherofEire1> fryguy, true that
[06:45] <_2> or is it .org
[06:45] <dongs> _2: okay ill go use ipchains right now
[06:46] <RazorFTW|Styles> Whenever I try to install Ubuntu on an iBook, it comes up with Errorno 5 (Input/Ouput Error) while installing. I'm using the PPC version... and I want to idealy if possiblej ust remove OSX
[06:46] <dongs> i was trying to remember waht the network shit was called in 1.2/1.3 but i forgot.
[06:46] <dongs> i dont think it was ipchains then.
[06:46] <dongs> somethign even more ridiculous.
[06:46] <fryguy> RazorFTW|Styles: you don't want to just remove OSX, you need it for some things still (firmware updates notably, also some disk management stuff you can only do in OSX)
[06:46] <WIGGMPk1> fryguy: how is my statement any less true than? its more rare for a hardware problem to cause a seg fault than it is for a memory problem instead the OS or application
[06:46] <robquad> hey all, is there a lamp server metapackage?
[06:46] <WIGGMPk1> fryguy: anyway, this is getting off the rails.. good conversation.. thanks
[06:47] <fryguy> WIGGMPk1: 99% of bluescreens in windows are hardware problems
[06:47] <RazorFTW|Styles> fryguy, why can't I Just remove OSX Completely and let ubuntu handle it?
[06:47] <_2> !lamp | robquad
[06:47] <fryguy> RazorFTW|Styles: because ubuntu doesn't know how to upgrade firmware on mac hardware, since it's not standard x86 stuff
[06:47] <fryguy> RazorFTW|Styles: Macs don't have a bios
[06:48] <RazorFTW|Styles> This mac is only going to be used for surfing the web.. well I want to make a linux comp but yea
[06:48] <sidhrt> keepsake: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87591/
[06:48] <RazorFTW|Styles> Why would that matter fryguy , (serioulsy just asking) :P
[06:48] <fryguy> RazorFTW|Styles: so then do that, why waste time removing another operating system
[06:48] <robquad> _2: My friend hit enter instead of space on the ubuntu server install where it asks what to install. is there a quicker way than reinstalling?
[06:48] <RazorFTW|Styles> fryguy, the hd is very small.
[06:48] <keepsake> sidhrt: Have you tried unplugging/reinserting the USB key?
[06:48] <fryguy> robquad: reinstalling takes like less than 10 minutes, it's probably faster than whatever else you want to do
[06:48] <onetinsoldier> darkfuzion_: so what did you end up doing to get xorg working at maximum performance?
[06:48] <keepsake> sidhrt: USB drive*
[06:48] <RazorFTW|Styles> fryguy, but it is giving me an IO err thats the main issue.. idk wh
[06:48] <RazorFTW|Styles> why*
[06:49] <fryguy> RazorFTW|Styles: ubuntu needs like less than 10GB to run
[06:49] <_2> robquad did you look at the page ?
[06:49] <RazorFTW|Styles> fryguy, I'm aware.
[06:49] <sidhrt> keepsake: yes. i have tried. it was working fine till yesterday.
[06:49] <RazorFTW|Styles> fryguy, but reguardless, even just trying to install it alongside osx it gives me an io err.r
[06:49] <PaddyMullen> I think I screwed up apt-get/python by trying to compile my own python
[06:49] <fryguy> PaddyMullen: probably
[06:49] <PaddyMullen> I'm trying to remove everything that I can and start from close to scratch
[06:49] <RazorFTW|Styles> PaddyMullen, i've done that haha
[06:49] <RazorFTW|Styles> wasn't fun to fix :P
[06:49] <fryguy> PaddyMullen: dpkg -f
[06:50] <RazorFTW|Styles> di it on a nix too haha
[06:50] <keepsake> sidhrt: Try "rmmod -f ehci_hcd" and see if that allows connection
[06:50] <robquad> fryguy: so there's no package that sets all of that up?
[06:50] <RazorFTW|Styles> like, err a server coloed somewhere
[06:50] <bzwingzero> Is there any way to force ubuntu to always start in safe graphics mode or force software rendering. My video card is shot and if it attempts hware rendering the entire machine crashes.
[06:50] <fryguy> robquad: no idea
[06:50] <fryguy> robquad: since you haven't set anything up yet, it's probably easier to just reinstall
[06:50] <_2> robquad at any rate, for install.  sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql
[06:50] <robquad> _2: yes, but it'll take like half an hour to do all of that, versus just a minute for an apt-get install or ten to fifteen for a full install
[06:50] <sidhrt> keepsake: it says operation not permitted
[06:51] <fryguy> sidhrt: sudo
[06:51] <robquad> _2: that's not the same thing, actually....
[06:51] <keepsake> sidhrt: sudo, sorry
[06:51] <robquad> _2: got it anyway, thanks though
[06:51] <onetinsoldier> bzwingzero: so you can't get into your window-manager at all right now?
[06:52] <keepsake> sidhrt: I find ehci_hcd kind of unreliable, sometimes it works perfectly, other times it doesn't work at all.
[06:52] <sidhrt> keepsake: nothing happened.
[06:52] <onetinsoldier> bzwingzero: are wanting to be at console level only?
[06:52] <bzwingzero> onetinsoldier: sometimes I can but often after running for awhile it dies... taking the system with it.
[06:52] <keepsake> sidhrt: Try connecting your USB drive again
[06:52] <RazorFTW|Styles> fryguy, on startup I get "There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Deamond. Some things, such as tehemes, sounds, or background settings may not work correctly. Last error message was: did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security polcy blocked the reply, the reply timedout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[06:52] <fryguy> bzwingzero: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use the vesa driver
[06:53] <onetinsoldier> bzwingzero: so do you want console runlevel only?
[06:53] <bzwingzero> onetinsoldier: I'd prefer to have X, and I know it runs fine in safe graphics (while on a live disk)
[06:53] <keanu> I have a bug - isn't too big of a deal, but thought i'd let everyone know - http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1229582834oj2.png
[06:53] <onetinsoldier> bzwingzero: ok, rorger. i'm not certain about how to accomplish that
[06:53] <keanu> direct link - http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/228/1229582834oj2.png
[06:53] <fryguy> keanu: what is the bug?
[06:53] <bzwingzero> fryguy: will do. Thanks.
[06:54] <sidhrt> keepsake: no result.
[06:54] <keanu> fryguy, how can it say it's running on AC and running on battery at the same time?
[06:54] <the_newbie> I need help, how can I play a dvd in my computer?
[06:54] <keepsake> sidhrt: Can you post another dmesg?
[06:54] <eatThisAndDie> keanu: did you just apt-get something?
[06:54] <fryguy> keanu: the first message was a timed message that disappears after a few seconds
[06:54] <keanu> fryguy, yeah
[06:54] <darkfuzion_> you opem totem player
[06:55] <fryguy> keanu: so it's not saying them at the same time, it's a residual message from before
[06:55] <keanu> eatThisAndDie, think you highlighted the wrong person ;)
[06:55] <onetinsoldier> bzwingzero: i am wondering if that'd the same thing as using the 'vesa' driver
[06:55] <the_newbie> when movie player tries to play the dvd, there is an error, where can I get the right codecs?
[06:55] <bzwingzero> onetinsoldier: from what i've researched, i'm pretty sure it is.
[06:55] <fryguy> the_newbie: ubuntu-restricted-extras has libdvdcss
[06:55] <sidhrt> keepsake: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87594/
[06:55] <eatThisAndDie> keanu: you're the one with the power-related bug rite/
[06:55] <darkfuzion_> it should ask to dowload codec
[06:55] <keanu> fryguy, not really - even when i disconnect the AC power, it still says that it's running off of AC
[06:55] <keanu> eatThisAndDie, yeah
[06:55] <psypher246> hey guys, wrt canonical support, they say 9-5. is that gmt?
[06:55] <the_newbie> fyguy, how can I install them?
[06:55] <onetinsoldier> bzwingzero: if it is then you can specify that as you xorg driver in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[06:55] <keanu> eatThisAndDie, no, i haven't apt-get'd anything recently
[06:56] <fryguy> keanu: then your board is apparently doing acpi stuff wrong, file a bug in launchpad
[06:56] <the_newbie> fryguy, how can I install them?
[06:56] <eatThisAndDie> yeah well i had that too while I was apt-get update distroing.
[06:56] <dongs> lol
[06:56] <bzwingzero> onetinsoldier: Got it. I just didn't know where the setting was.
[06:56] <fryguy> the_newbie: apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:56] <onetinsoldier> bzwingzero: ok.. cool
[06:56] <keanu> fryguy, k - i removed the battery for a few mins, so it seems that it isn't re-registering the settings
[06:56] <the_newbie> fryguy, thanks
[06:57] <keanu> Power Manager 2.24.0 reports the battery life properly though
[06:57] <keepsake> sidhrt: Is it unmounted, or not connected at all?
[06:58] <sidhrt> keepsake: it is connected. but its not getting detected .. it used to get automounted before. now nothing happens.
[06:58] <nbeebo> when u got gnome-panel non fullscreen, u get those ugly "grab-buttons" on each side, is there a way to remove those?
[06:59] <the_newbie> fryguy, nope did not work, I got the newest version, and the movie player shows an error message "could not read from resource", do you know of any video player I could use?
[06:59] <sidhrt> the_newbie: try using vlc media player.
[06:59] <tux9778> hi any one running kbuntu on a dell inspiron 1501 laptop?
[07:00] <the_newbie> sidhrt, same result :s
[07:00] <fryguy> the_newbie: i use mplayer
[07:00] <scbchoreo> hello
[07:00] <_2> sidhrt "used to work, now doesn't"  can you think of anything that changed between those two ?
[07:01] <sidhrt> _2: no.. nothing.
[07:01] <sidhrt> keepsake: can i pm?
[07:03] <psypher246> does anyone know if canonicals' support is 9-5pm GMT?
[07:03] <_2> sidhrt have you checked the package logs to see if something that would/should affect that might have been installed/removed/updated ?   (/var/log/dpkg.log)
[07:03] <nickharper> Hello, I'm having some troubles with my graphics card. I have an nVidia Geforce FX 5200 and I do not believe I have the right driver.
[07:04] <Guest50049> hey
[07:04] <nickharper> I'm also running 8.10.
[07:04] <Guest50049> anyone knows anything about Exim?
[07:05] <_2> Guest50049 only that debian etch's aptitude can't remove it  ;/
[07:05] <Meshezabeel> Can someone go to this page: http://www.ats-group.net/languages/language-resources-cree.html and tell me if the link that says "Cree Software Related Homepage" crashes firefox?
[07:06] <sidhrt> _2: nothing has been done...
[07:06] <karexx> HI, is there a software such an intel GMA(mobile) for ubuntu??
[07:07] <_2> sidhrt if nothing changed, then nothing would have changed...    ;/       finding what changed may be hard though...
[07:08] <onetinsoldier> Meshezabeel: no.. not on my system anyway
[07:08] <Meshezabeel> onetinsoldier: okay, thanks
[07:08] <onetinsoldier> Meshezabeel: however, it says i'm missing a plugin
[07:08] <Until_It_Sleeps> Please help me. How do I install this: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=70428&forumpage=0
[07:08] <transporter> i need help regarding a sound issue
[07:09] <sidhrt> _2: isnt there anything i can do?
[07:09] <Satisfied> We wanna be free, free to do what we wanna do... and we're gonna get loaded
[07:09] <nickharper> To be more specific in my problem, whenever I first boot into ubuntu the password and name screen is sized completely wrong, I cannot select anything in compiz, and I receive an error message anytime I try to get graphical effects working.
[07:09] <_2> sidhrt give me the details and i'll see what i can come up with.
[07:09] <karexx> HI, is there a software such an intel GMA(mobile) for ubuntu??
[07:10] <wiehan> how can I make an xfs filesystem on /dev/md0 (it is a RAID: linear partition) with the mfs command...
[07:10] <sidhrt> _2: what kind of details? can i pm?
[07:10] <onetinsoldier> Meshezabeel: i am currently installing the IcedTea plugin... then i will revist the page
[07:11] <darkfuzion_> so i didnt need to get the ati driver anyways onetinsoldier to use compiz fusion
[07:11] <CheesyWeasel> rhythmbox won't play any of my music. none of it. i double click on a song and i get nothing
[07:11] <transporter> hi can somebody help me with a sound issue that im having
[07:11] <_2> sidhrt you can pastebin things as needed.   details on hardware software and desired end result.    i already gathered it's an auto-detect/mount issue.   i just need all the specifics.
[07:12] <_2> !pastebin | sidhrt
[07:12] <Meshezabeel> onetinsoldier: Just before it crashes it pops up an error message, after several attempts I finally was able to get a screen capture just as it was crashing. Here is the error message: http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/197/screenshoteo1.png
[07:12] <onetinsoldier> darkfuzion_: roger that
[07:12] <nickharper> Anyone have any ideas for me?
[07:13] <wiehan> how can I make an xfs filesystem on /dev/md0 (it is a RAID: linear partition) with the mfs command...
[07:13] <wiehan> I meant: with the mkfs command
[07:13] <sidhrt> _2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87606/
[07:13] <onetinsoldier> Meshezabeel: upon installing the IcedTea plugin, firefox is locked up. i will need to kill it and start it back up
[07:14] <_2> wiehan mkfs.xfs /dev/md0
[07:14] <wiehan> thanks _2
[07:14] <onetinsoldier> darkfuzion_: so what is your xorg driver?
[07:15] <mtaylor> is there an ubuntu-ish way to change from a generic vga X driver to a real driver? (installed in video safe mode, now it's stuck in 800x600, but the video card is a supported intel card)
[07:15] <mtaylor> I'm trying to talk a friend through this on the phone, and I'm trying to avoid saying the words "edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[07:16] <Meshezabeel> onetinsoldier: I am able to get to the site using a proxy site (http://ninjacloak.com), it pops up the warning message, but does not shut down firefox. There seems to be a gray applet underneath the gy.com logo that says: "An error occured while loading this applet."
[07:16] <onetinsoldier> Meshezabeel: i got firefox restarted and went back to that page. the pugin is working and firefox has not crashed
[07:17] <nickharper> I have an nVidia GEForce 5200 graphics card and am unable to enable any kind of desktop effects in 8.10, any solutions?
[07:17] <_2> sidhrt ok that's the output of dmesg   now how about the output of "sudo fdisk -l"    and a summary of what used to, and now doesn't happen.
[07:17] <wiehan> mount /dev/md0
[07:18] <wiehan> oops, I actually thought this was my terminal screen
[07:18] <Meshezabeel> onetinsoldier: looking at my installed plugin, it looks like I am using: libgcjwebplugin.so
[07:18] <_2> wiehan you can use it as one if you use the  /exec command
[07:18] <_2> wiehan i don't advise it really.
[07:19] <onetinsoldier> Meshezabeel: i saw that one available, but it's not the one i chose to install
[07:19] <wiehan> _2 wow, that is amazing.. are you kidding?
[07:19] <Until_It_Sleeps> Please help me. How do I install this: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=70428&forumpage=0    The theme changing thing doesn't seem to load it, and the 'Login Window' panel won't load it, as it "Isn't a theme archive"
[07:19] <_2> wiehan try it.   /exec ls
[07:20] <wiehan> _2 thanks - I will... with non volatile stuff
[07:20] <_2> /exec ls -A
[07:20] <_2> :)
[07:20] <sidhrt> _2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87607/
[07:20] <sidhrt> when i plug in the disk, it usually auto-mounts and the drive opens. now, nothing happens. it is as if nothing is connected.
[07:20] <psypher246> damnit, despite the fact the BP157 is not that much for a years support i just can't afford it till the new year, gues u guys will just have to help me :)
[07:21]  * Until_It_Sleeps feels his patience growing thinner...
[07:21] <wiehan> _2 I made a RAID:linear array last night - to span 2 hard drives - i did it with mdadm, and now it is missing - as if I never made it, can you help. You sound like a knoledgeable bloke
[07:21] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: don't really need the /me commands please
[07:21] <ikonia> wiehan: do an mdadm --manage $device --detail
[07:22] <ikonia> wiehan: it may not have auto started if you didn't update your mdadm.conf
[07:22] <wiehan> ikonia: ok, I want it to auto start always - I'll do that which you've just said
[07:22] <omshanti> how do I learn what version of ubuntu i am running?
[07:22] <_2> sidhrt ok, and do you care to pastebin the output of "dmesg | tail -5" after you unplug and replug the device please?
[07:22] <Until_It_Sleeps> !help
[07:22] <omshanti> i clicked about ubuntu but it crashed
[07:22] <Wickk> what's a good comic book reader for ubuntu?
[07:22] <ikonia> omshanti: lsb_releases -a
[07:22] <omshanti> oh there it is
[07:23] <clearzen> I just upgraded to 8.10 from 8.04 and my nvidia driver is no longer working. I get the following error when I try to start x. Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device. Any ideas?
[07:23] <onetinsoldier> ●◪◀▲ <-- are chars like that off-limits here? just curious
[07:23] <Until_It_Sleeps> O_o
[07:23] <Erilliam> I'm ssh'd into my other Ubuntu computer. And i need to be able to see what's currently on its screen. Does anyone know how I can forward it?
[07:23] <ikonia> onetinsoldier: if your using them in a conversation no problem
[07:23] <nickharper> Clearzen, which graphics card do you have?
[07:23] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: are you trying to make random noise ?
[07:23] <Erilliam> I only need read-only access
[07:23] <onetinsoldier> ikonia: ok.. thanks!
[07:23] <wiehan> ikonia:  I am really bad with mdadm... my device is /dev/md0 (or supposed to be)... can you type the exact commands, I beg of you..
[07:23] <Until_It_Sleeps> I'm waiting for help..................
[07:24] <Until_It_Sleeps> I've asked the same question at least 4 times in the last half hour and nobody;s responded
[07:24] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: then wait, stop making random commments
[07:24] <_2> sidhrt i should say unplug, wait 5 seconds plug in the device and wait 5  then  dmesg | tail -5
[07:24] <clearzen> nickharper: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8500 GT (rev a1)
[07:24] <Erilliam> Until_it_sleeps, post on the forums. Or try look it up
[07:24] <Meshezabeel> onetinsoldier: I unsintalled GCJ Web Plugin, it now asks me to install one of 3, again the GCJ, but also gives me two options that say "The IcedTea Web Browser Plugin". Upon further investigation, one is trying to install package: cacao-oj6-plugin, the other is trying to install: icedtea6-plugin
[07:24] <masagenga> hi
[07:25] <wiehan> Until_It_Sleeps: JFGI
[07:25] <omshanti> thanks ikonia
[07:25] <onetinsoldier> Meshezabeel: one sec
[07:25] <ikonia> wiehan: don't need that sort of phrase please
[07:25]  * omshanti is trying to run sid meier's alpha centauri.  it's installed but it crashes
[07:25] <masagenga> hello every body
[07:25] <omshanti> i found a howto and installed it
[07:25] <ikonia> osxdude|l: we don't need the "/me" commands please
[07:25] <omshanti> i can see the splash screens ok
[07:25] <wiehan> ikonia: I beg your pardon.
[07:25] <omshanti> but after that it crashes :<
[07:25] <Oxidize> When i booted Ubuntu this morning my sound wasnt working, just had a flashing half transparent speaker icon on my desktop and still do. Cant seem to get the sound working even tho its been fine since the system was installed.
[07:25] <Oxidize> Booted from Live CD and sound works but i still get a flashing icon that wasnt there befor, any ideas how to get the sound back plus remove this icon?
[07:25] <Until_It_Sleeps>  wiehan: What? Whats that, what does it do, and where is it?
[07:25] <_2> sidhrt ?
[07:26] <onetinsoldier> Meshezabeel: i installed this one --> cacao-oj6-plugin
[07:26] <masagenga> helo can i ask some who knows well with working antivirus in ubutnu fiesty flawn
[07:26] <sidhrt> _2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87614/
[07:26] <_2> k
[07:26] <hotmonkeyluv> Oxidize:  what's up?
[07:27] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: i haven't installed any themes in ubuntu, yet. i could makethe aero theme my first one to try and figure it out. lol
[07:27] <psypher246> domnit, and the latest firefox updates fixed NOTHING!!
[07:27] <psypher246> AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRGHQ!!@
[07:27] <psypher246> \
[07:27] <nickharper> clearzen Not sure if this helps or not, I'm having troubles with my 5200 and awaiting help, but try sudo apt-get install envyng-core
[07:27] <Oxidize> Sounds vanished for no reason and this icons flashing away regardless :(
[07:27] <Until_It_Sleeps> wiehan: Oh I see what you mean now >.>
[07:28] <ikonia> wiehan: try mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 --run
[07:28] <nickharper> clearzen Afterwards type envyng -t and follow the instructions.
[07:28] <_2> sidhrt that's very odd output.  i may be a bug in the usb module.   let me see what i can find on it.
[07:28] <clearzen> nickharper: can't hurt to try I guess
[07:28] <sidhrt> _2: thanks a lot...
[07:29] <wiehan> ikonia: failed to create /dev/md0
[07:29] <nickharper> clearzen Just FYI I believe there are many problems with the nvidia drivers in 8.10, I may be mistaken though.
[07:31] <clearzen> yeah, I keep getting a md5 mismatch message with flashplugin-nonfree too -.- maybe I should just use arch lol
[07:31] <ikonia> wiehan: mdadm --build /dev/md0 --level=0 --raid-devices=2 /dev/$whateveryourdiskis /dev/$yourotherdisk
[07:32] <wiehan> ikonia: thanks, I appreciate it, will try
[07:32] <ikonia> !away > _jlb_
[07:32] <_2> sidhrt what's the output on   uname -r   # please ?
[07:32] <b1n42y> whilst pinging ubuntu i get operation not permitted, i have a wirelss connection to wireless accesspoint but cant ping ubuntu or surf web
[07:32] <ikonia> wiehan: it will take a while to build
[07:32] <wiehan> ikonia: will it have to do that every time?
[07:32] <sidhrt> _2:  2.6.22-16-generic
[07:32] <b1n42y> need some help please
[07:32] <_2> sidhrt k.  sec.
[07:33] <jimmio> Anyone have experience with QEMU and Windows XP, It's hanging at the Installing Windows point... 39 minutes remaining, no progress bar.
[07:33] <plouffe>  I just updated my firefox on ubuntu and now it keeps giving me "assertion failed search installlocation : file has no engine" error every time I start it up.
[07:33] <ikonia> wiehan: no, you need to build the arrary again to get the info to make it autostart
[07:34] <RazorFTW|Styles> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an iBook (And remove Mac) and druing the install at 47% it saids (Errrno 5) Input/ouput error
[07:34] <jimmio> Erm, nevermind... It's just going unbelieveably slow... maybe tomorrow I'll be able to use it =P Night all.
[07:34] <wiehan> ikonia: mdadm: array /dev/md0 built and started.
[07:34] <k1dugar> hello, I have two monitor same size 22" and nvidia card. I am using now separate X screen, so I have two separate desktop. I can drag-drop file and icon... but I can't move applications running from one desktop to another. Can someone tell me if there is a way to share application.
[07:35] <eatThisAndDie> k1dugar: make sure the apps are not maximized when you're moving them?
[07:35] <darkfuzion_> whats VMware?
[07:35] <ikonia> wiehan: do you have ANY other raid devices
[07:35] <plouffe>  I just updated my firefox on ubuntu and now it keeps giving me "assertion failed search installlocation : file has no engine" error every time I start it up.
[07:35] <b1n42y> k1dugar: i dont think u can do that on seperate X screen it sseperaate ?
[07:35] <wiehan> ikonia: none at all... just the 2 HD that I'm trying to span
[07:35] <Until_It_Sleeps> I tried installing my theme the way I found out, but I got this "not a tar.gz or tar archive", even though it is clearly a tar.gz archive.
[07:35] <_2> sidhrt ok.  i think it may be related to this... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/65527  and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/112290
[07:35] <ikonia> mdadm --detail --scan > /etc/mdadm.conf
[07:36] <k1dugar> eatThisAndDie: if I move them then they move to another workspace not to another desktop
[07:36] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: run "file" against your theme file
[07:36] <_2> sidhrt do you have more than one kernel version installed that you can test booting to another kernel ?
[07:36] <b1n42y> k1dugar: you are using seperate X screen....
[07:36] <Until_It_Sleeps> And, um, how exactly do I do that?
[07:36] <nickharper> Until_It_Sleeps: How are you installing the theme? Which program are you using?
[07:36] <Until_It_Sleeps> I hate being a noob!
[07:36] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps run the command "file" then put the file name
[07:36] <k1dugar> b1n42y: yes I have two separate
[07:36] <Until_It_Sleeps> I'm installing through the login window.
[07:36] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: you need to be in the same directory as the theme package
[07:37] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: you don't install through a login window
[07:37] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: it's possible, however unlikely that it's a corrupt download. have you tried  tar -t <file>  ??
[07:37] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: you install it using a theme manager from
[07:37] <Meshezabeel> onetinsoldier: thanks, using that plugin I get no crashes now :)
[07:37] <_2> sidhrt also.  while it's very unlikely, it is possable that it's /sys/ not mounted   you can check that with this command   ls /sys/
[07:37] <sidhrt> _2: i dont understand .. what is another kernel?
[07:37] <onetinsoldier> Meshezabeel: yeah! you're welcome :-)
[07:37] <b1n42y> k1dugar:"I am using now separate X screen, so I have two separate desktop." so thats why i said i dont think u can do that
[07:37] <plouffe> Is there any way to revert the update or redo it?
[07:37] <Until_It_Sleeps> I thought you had to do it through there for a GDM theme...
[07:37] <Oxidize> When i booted Ubuntu this morning my sound wasnt working, just had a flashing half transparent speaker icon on my desktop and still do. Cant seem to get the sound working even tho its been fine since the system was installed.
[07:37] <Oxidize> Booted from Live CD and sound works but i still get a flashing icon that wasnt there befor, any ideas how to get the sound back plus remove this icon?
[07:38] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: you open the gdm theme manager and drop it in
[07:38] <_2> sidhrt pastebin the output of   ls /boot     and we will see if you have another kernel installed.
[07:38] <shavin> is there a linux version of yahoo messenger?
[07:38] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: doh, that should be  tar -zt <file> i believe
[07:38] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: however as it's saying its not vaild I'm asking you to open a terminal go to where the file is and do "file $file_name"
[07:38] <Oxidize> shavin get pidgin
[07:38] <k1dugar> b1n42y: I have two separate X screen and each screen has four workspaces with compiz turned on
[07:38] <shavin> i mean something which support features like imvironments
[07:38] <wiehan> ikonia: mdadm: array /dev/md0 built and started.
[07:38] <b1n42y> k1dugar: ya so they are seperate hence the word seperate
[07:38] <sidhrt> _2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87620/
[07:39] <shavin> and file sharing, Pidgin does not support file sharing with ppl on yahoo msgr on other side
[07:39] <nickharper> I have an nVidia GEForce 5200 graphics card and am unable to enable any kind of desktop effects in 8.10, any solutions?
[07:39] <_2> onetinsoldier  -t  to list
[07:39] <ikonia> mdadm --detail --scan > /etc/mdadm.conf
[07:39] <acc_> Hi, #Ubuntu.  I'm trying to do an aptitude safe-upgrade on Hardy, but I'm unable to do so because I'm missing a gpg key to verify linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-21-generic.  I've Googled for at least an hour with no luck.  Any ideas where I might find it?
[07:39] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: that will not unpack it... just lists the file contents. that should help confirm that the file integrity is good or bad
[07:39] <ikonia> wiehan: mdadm --detail --scan > /etc/mdadm.conf
[07:40] <onetinsoldier> _2: ok roger. but it is a gzipped tarball and i wanted to give the list command
[07:40] <b1n42y> if anyone knows how to connect me to internet via establised wireless connection, help me please
[07:40] <k1dugar> b1n42y: is there a way that I can use different workspace on each monitor but use one X screen
[07:40] <_2> sidhrt ok reboot and when you first see the "grub" splash screen, hit [esc]   then select the   "2.6.22-14" entry and hit enter.
[07:41] <wiehan> ikonia: permission denied - even as SUDO!
[07:41] <b1n42y> u can have one xscreen with a large dekstop panning over two monitors with numerous workspaces, which is what I use
[07:41] <sidhrt> okay _2. brb...
[07:41] <gizmo> can i ask
[07:41] <_2> onetinsoldier ok,   i was just saying that -t filename   doesn't look right "normally"   -f filename   even if you do use -t
[07:41] <k1dugar> hello,  is there a way that I can use different workspace on each monitor but use one X screen
[07:41] <ikonia> wiehan: just do an mdadm --scan --detail
[07:42] <_2> onetinsoldier just caught my eye, and thought i'd comment in passing.
[07:42] <b1n42y> k1dugar: then u can move apps around as you like
[07:42] <ikonia> wiehan: does that give you output ?
[07:42] <onetinsoldier> _2: yep.. just found that out by trying it on a file of my own
[07:42] <_2> :)
[07:42] <wiehan> ikonia: mdadm: --scan does not set the mode, and so cannot be the first option.
[07:42] <k1dugar> b1n42y: yes but I don't know how I can do that
[07:42] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: ok, command should be    tar -ztf <file>
[07:42] <gizmo> why it take to long install ubuntu..?i have wait until 5hrs..but yet finish..
[07:42] <gizmo> can someone tell me what happen..
[07:42] <b1n42y> b1n42y: its in the same setup area
[07:43] <ikonia> wiehan: sorry mdadm --detail --scan
[07:43] <Circs> I'm having a little trouble, I'm trying to put Ubuntu-eee onto my Eee but what do I do with untetbootin-linux-279?
[07:43] <ubd> there are files in my trash that i cant get rid of because of permission error
[07:43] <nickharper> gizmo: Sounds like you may have a corrupt disc. Shouldn't take that long.
[07:43] <b1n42y> k1dugar: nvidia-settings ?
[07:43] <bikak0> hey, how do i change user ssh login password via shell in ubuntu?
[07:43] <gizmo> nickharper : so how?
[07:43] <_2> gizmo at what step/stage is it taking all this time ?
[07:43] <onetinsoldier> _2: btw, thanks for helping :-)
[07:43] <ubd> where is this trash is located
[07:43] <wiehan> ikonia: ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid0 num-devices=2 metadata=
[07:43] <_2> onetinsoldier welcome
[07:43] <RazorFTW|Styles> Hey, I'm trying to install Linux on a iBook and remove mac's os. Now the installer only sees 1/2 the hd (the unpartitioned part) And I refomrat it and select the HFS fiel system for mac( though I dont want mac) and it saids no NewWorld boot partition as found. The yaboot loader requires an apple bootstrap partition, (How can I remove this yaboot boot loader and use the grub one?)
[07:44] <sidhrt> _2: i have done...
[07:44] <ikonia> wiehan: looks good, now copy that information into /etc/mdadm.conf
[07:44] <wiehan> ikonia: I am really appreciating this btw - I've been struggeling my behind off
[07:44] <_2> sidhrt and the results are ???
[07:44] <nickharper> gizmo: Reburn your boot disc at a slower burn rate and try to install with the new disc.
[07:44] <wiehan> ikonia: it seems as though there needs to be something after metadata=
[07:44] <k1dugar> b1n42y: dint found any such option, twinview, clone and separate X screen
[07:44] <ikonia> wiehan: ther is normay a long numer
[07:44] <gizmo> _2 : unbuntu install 8.10 - Please wait while the required files are retrive and prepared..
[07:44] <b1n42y> twinview
[07:45] <sidhrt> _2: nothing...
[07:45] <_2> gizmo hmmm and you have enough ram ?   more than 192m ?
[07:45] <RazorFTW|Styles> Anyone?
[07:45] <ikonia> wiehan: for example ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid1 num-devices=2 metadata=0.90 UUID=99da1a3d:f11b2c9e:87264f9f:804a8f04
[07:45] <_2> sidhrt still doesn't recognize when you unplug and then replug the drive ?
[07:45] <gizmo> 504mb
[07:45] <ubd> there are files in my trash that i cant get rid of because of permission error
[07:46] <gizmo> _2 : 504mb of ram
[07:46] <k1dugar> b1n42y: its like make two monitor as one "BIG" just like Xinerama
[07:46] <_2> gizmo   ok.   trouble shooting that may not be easy,   and i don't have the time. maybe someone else can.
[07:46] <Lou_> What are the correct permissions for the home directory and the files and folders in it?
[07:46] <b1n42y> ya and whats the problem ?
[07:46] <ikonia> Lou_: normally 700 or 750
[07:46] <Until_It_Sleeps> onetinsoldier: tar: You must specify one of the `-Acdtrux' options
[07:46] <gizmo> _2 : u ask me..after i answer u dont know..
[07:47] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: run file against it
[07:47] <Until_It_Sleeps> How on earth do I do that?
[07:47] <sidhrt> _2: no. not even after unplug n replug.
[07:47] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: as I told you be in the same directory as it, and run "file $filename"
[07:47] <b1n42y> gizmo: checked your media for defects ?
[07:47] <ubd> where is this trash is located so i can find it and remove with sudo autilus
[07:47] <_2> gizmo   i was just checking to see if the 'simplest of all answers' might apply.   didn't mean to get your hopes up.
[07:47] <ikonia> !trash > ubd
[07:47] <Lou_> ikonia, thanks.
[07:48] <gizmo> _2 : is it ok with 504mb of ram?
[07:48] <b1n42y> ubd: just sudo dolphin or whatever and delete from trash
[07:48] <nickharper> gizmo
[07:48] <_2> gizmo yes indeed it is.
[07:48] <nickharper> gizmo: Yes.
[07:48] <_jlb__1> is ubottu a bot?
[07:48] <ikonia> yes
[07:48] <_2> yes
[07:48] <Until_It_Sleeps> _/home/untilitsleeps/Desktop/ubuntu to Vista.tar.gz: gzip compressed data, was "Vista.tar", from Unix, last modified: Fri Jun 20 05:02:31 2008
[07:48] <gizmo> nickharper : maybe my disc is corupt..
[07:48] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: tar ztvf Vista.tar.gz
[07:48] <_2> sidhrt ok.   ls /sys
[07:48] <gizmo> nickharper : slower like what..is it ok to use infrarecorder?
[07:49] <_2> sidhrt just tell me if that lists dirs or errors out
[07:49] <wiehan> ikonia: should I use metadata=0.9 - I didn't get any output about that; also how do I get the UUID?
[07:49] <gizmo> nickharper : ok i will burn it again..
[07:49] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: are you sure you did it right, like in my last message to you?   --> tar -ztf <filename.tar.gz>   >
[07:49] <Until_It_Sleeps> tar: Vista.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[07:49] <b1n42y> gizmo: check your media first
[07:49] <rainabba> Why wouldn't "ls "foo (x)*" return "foo (x).ext"  ?
[07:49] <gizmo> b1n42y : media?
[07:49] <sidhrt> _2: block  bus  class  devices  firmware  fs  kernel  module  power  slab
[07:49] <b1n42y> gizmo: cd dvd ...
[07:49] <nickharper> gizmo: When I originally installed 8.10 I ran into a general error that did not allow me to complete the install, so I canceled and ejected the disk, I then reloaded it and in grub checked it for errors - there were a few, that'd be the best place to start.
[07:50] <ubd> ty ikonia
[07:50] <_2> sidhrt ok.    hmmm you are making this difficult aren't you...    i mean your system is...
[07:50] <gizmo> nickharper : yeah same like me when boot..
[07:50] <b1n42y> nickharper: well done
[07:50] <_2> sidhrt pastebin the output of    df -h
[07:50] <sidhrt> _2: umm... i am sorry mate.. but i appreciate all your help...
[07:50] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: you must be doing something wrong. i just double-checked that command. it absolutely works
[07:50] <gizmo> nickharper : so what your step..just do the burn with slower rate..?
[07:51] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: you need to be in the same directory as it
[07:51] <Meshezabeel> gizmo, check your media first, if it's not your media, check the iso file you downloaded against the md5sum hash (I think it's called) to make sure your iso file is not corrupted to begin with.
[07:51] <_2> sidhrt heh  no worries.   just trying to hurry here.
[07:51] <Until_It_Sleeps> what is that command supposed to do, open it?
[07:51] <ikonia> wiehan: is the array still running ?
[07:51] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: No... just list the file contents
[07:51] <b1n42y> gizmo: check your dowload against a checksum first
[07:51] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: it will verify it as a tar file
[07:51] <gizmo> Meshezabeel : i already check my md5..
[07:51] <gizmo> its ok..my md5 same with the hash number..
[07:51] <wiehan> ikonia: I didn't do anything else - so I guess the array is still running
[07:52] <sidhrt> _2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87629/
[07:52] <Until_It_Sleeps> well, I just copied and pasted, and it didn't work...
[07:52] <b1n42y> ehehe double posts
[07:52] <gizmo> but i confuse with media..
[07:52] <Meshezabeel> gizmo, okay, it should be a good iso then
[07:52] <nickharper> gizmo: Well, I didn't have another blank disc, so I loaded an older version of ubuntu, Gutsy, I believe, and upgraded from there. But, yes, reburn your disk at a slower burn rate - this should be in the options before you hit the burn button.
[07:52] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps what do you mean it didn't work - what did it do or say
[07:52] <gizmo> Meshezabeel : yes iso ok..
[07:52] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: you need to be exact
[07:52] <b1n42y> gizmo u can also do a simulation before you burn
[07:52] <YankDownUnder> My lighter runs outta fluid every time I try to burn a disk...
[07:52] <Meshezabeel> gizmo, I think when you insert the disc, a menu appears asking to install it and other options, one of the options I think is to check disc for defects
[07:52] <Until_It_Sleeps> "tar: Vista.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory"
[07:52] <gizmo> simulation?media..
[07:52] <b1n42y> YankDownUnder: same
[07:53] <Meshezabeel> gizmo, someone can tell me if I'm wrong
[07:53] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: you need to be in the SAME directory as the file as I said
[07:53] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: my Vista.tar.gz file just finished downloading. let me check it with that command...
[07:53] <Until_It_Sleeps> fyi the full file name is ubuntu to Vista.tar.gz
[07:53] <b1n42y> Meshezabeel: thats what ive been trying to say ...
[07:53] <rainabba> If my current directory contains the file "foo (x).ext", why wouldn't the following command list that file?
[07:53] <rainabba> ls -1 'foo (x)*'
[07:53] <gizmo> Meshezabeel : but i can open the "try ubuntu without change any of my computer"
[07:53] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: use the correct file name
[07:53] <Until_It_Sleeps> "ubuntu to Vista.tar.gz"
[07:53] <b1n42y> ...
[07:53] <gizmo> nickharper : i will try to burn a new one with the slower burn..
[07:54] <Meshezabeel> gizmo, it doesn't matter, maybe there's one spot on the disc that has problems that isn't detected on live viewing
[07:54] <Until_It_Sleeps> is that the correct file name?
[07:54] <b1n42y> gizmo: do what Meshezabeel said
[07:54] <nickharper> b1n42y: I'm new to this whole thing, so, I do hope you were being honest and not sarcastic! You could dash my dreams away in a moment you know!
[07:54] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: I don't know what the file name is, it's your file !
[07:54] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: tar -ztf ubuntu\ to\ Vista.tar.gz
[07:54] <gizmo> Meshezabeel : so what should i do..burn the new one with slow rate..?
[07:54] <wiehan> Until_It_Sleeps: spaces aren't allowed (or not understood) when typing in file names in terminal, thus use: \before the beginning of the space and then type the space or just use TAB for autocomplete
[07:54] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: worked for me!
[07:54] <RazorFTW|Styles> The installer needs to remove operating syste m files from the install target, but was unable to do so. The installer cannot continue.
[07:54] <RazorFTW|Styles> wtf:(
[07:54] <ikonia> wiehan: mdadm -S /dev/md0
[07:55] <_2> sidhrt man i don't know.     i would have to see the output of  cat /var/log/dpkg.log      and still might not be able to find what is causing your issue.     but unfortunately, i'm quickly running out of time, and have to pass you off to someone else. ikonia might have time to look into this, maybe.
[07:55] <ikonia> wiehan: sudo of course
[07:55] <b1n42y> nickharper: the advice you gave , i was referring to
[07:55] <clearzen> is there a reason that I get the following error installing flashplugin-nonfree......  md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz
[07:55] <clearzen> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[07:55] <Until_It_Sleeps> **** tar: ubuntu to Vista.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[07:55] <Meshezabeel> gizmo, well you could check the current one for defects like I mentioned just to see. But you could also try to burn it again at slow speed. Also, maybe try a different brand of disc if possible.
[07:55] <sidhrt> _2:
[07:55] <gizmo> ok..
[07:55] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps how did you run file against it
[07:55] <nickharper> b1n42y: Yes, and I was hoping I had gave genuinely good advice.
[07:55] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: use Tab Completion
[07:55] <gizmo> i use infrarecorder to burn image..
[07:55] <_2> sidhrt if you have the time,  someone here can surely help you find and correct it.   but i have to go.
[07:56] <sidhrt> _2; okay,,,, thanks....
[07:56] <Meshezabeel> gizmo, I've never heard of that before
[07:56] <_2> welcome. and sorry we didn't finish. sidhrt
[07:56] <gizmo> its from ubuntu site..
[07:56] <Until_It_Sleeps> onetinsoldier: Uh, in Terminal?
[07:56] <Until_It_Sleeps> or in irc?
[07:56] <gizmo> Meshezabeel : what you use to burn image?
[07:56] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: type in.... tar -ztf ubu    ...then press the Tab key on your keyboard
[07:56] <sidhrt> its okay _2.. we can finish off later..
[07:56] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: so do exactly the same, but repalce the command file with tar ztvf
[07:56] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: yes.. in terminal
[07:56] <Meshezabeel> gizmo, so you are in ubuntu right now to burn a disc?
[07:56] <wiehan> ikonia: mdadm: bad uuid: UUID=         mdadm: ARRAY line /dev/md0 has no identity information            mdadm: stopped /dev/md0
[07:56] <b1n42y> gizmo: when you put the cd\dvd in the computer and it boots: its asks you install , try, check memory, check media... select the last option !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:57] <Until_It_Sleeps> onetinsoldier: doesn't do nothing
[07:57] <Until_It_Sleeps> just makes my computer beep
[07:57] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: omg
[07:57] <ikonia> wiehan what does blkid show
[07:57] <gizmo> ok...
[07:57] <gizmo> wait
[07:57] <Meshezabeel> gizmo, if you are under ubuntu you can just burn an iso directly from the ubuntu OS
[07:57] <b1n42y> gizmo: media = dvd cd usb stick etc
[07:57] <nickharper> Until_It_sleeps: Have you opened a terminal in ubuntu?
[07:57] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: do you have the following package installed?   --> bash-completion
[07:58] <b1n42y> media aka form
[07:58] <tuxwulf> I guess in xorg.conf I can also specify my monitor?
[07:58] <Until_It_Sleeps> onetinsoldier: how can I tell?
[07:58] <gizmo> Meshezabeel : i check the defect 1st..
[07:58] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: dpkg -l bash-completion
[07:58] <Meshezabeel> gizmo, the other option is to use Brazero Disc Burning under Applications->Sound & Video (depending on your current version of ubuntu(
[07:58] <wiehan> ikonia: it shows the UUID of all the HD's in my computer, thus including the 2 onstituents of the RAID but not the UUID of the RAID itself
[07:58] <ikonia> wiehan: sudo mdadm -R /dev/md0
[07:58] <Until_It_Sleeps> nickharper: yes
[07:58] <tuxwulf> Becasue ubuntu is not really giving me many useful resos...
[07:58] <ikonia> wiehan: ok, sudo mdadm -R /dev/md0
[07:59] <nickharper> Until_It_Sleeps: and in the terminal you're typing in exactly what he tells you?
[07:59] <gizmo> Meshezabeel : must check sound & video..ok2..
[07:59] <gizmo> so i burn a new cd..
[07:59] <Until_It_Sleeps> nickharper: yes
[07:59] <wiehan> ikonia: I still get the same messages... as earlier mentioned...
[07:59] <wiehan> ikonia: mdadm: bad uuid: UUID=         mdadm: ARRAY line /dev/md0 has no identity information            mdadm: stopped /dev/md0
[07:59] <sidhrt> ikonia: can u help me , please?
[07:59] <ikonia> wiehan: you may have to re-create it
[07:59] <nickharper> Until_It_Sleeps: Okay. Wow.
[07:59] <ikonia> sidhrt: with what ?
[07:59] <Until_It_Sleeps> onetinsoldier: whats it supposed to say?
[07:59] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: you tell us what it does say
[07:59] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: i  bash-completion           20060301-4ubuntu1         programmable completion for the bash shell
[07:59] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: it doesn't matter what it's supposed to say
[07:59] <ubd> i dont have sound! goddamn update!
[07:59] <omshanti> i can install zsnes using synaptic but when I do I can't get sound.
[07:59] <ubd> what shall i do
[07:59] <Until_It_Sleeps> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[07:59] <Until_It_Sleeps> | Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
[08:00] <omshanti> I was advised to compile it myself
[08:00] <Until_It_Sleeps> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[08:00] <Until_It_Sleeps> ||/ Name           Version        Description
[08:00] <omshanti> afk
[08:00] <FloodBot3> Until_It_Sleeps: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:00] <Until_It_Sleeps> +++-[08:00] <onetinsoldier> lol
[08:00] <sidhrt> ikonia: my usb hard drive.. its not getting detected. _2 was helping me. but he had to leave..
[08:00] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: until your move confident with what your doing I suggest use a different theme
[08:00] <etk_> anyone know how to make the builtin camera on a sony vgn-fz160e work on ubuntu 8.04
[08:00] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: this is going nowheree at the moment
[08:00] <ubd> i dont have sound pls hep i believe the update made this happen it was workin g ok
[08:00] <Until_It_Sleeps> Yeah, I can see that.
[08:00] <ikonia> sidhrt: I've not been  following what's been going on
[08:01] <ikonia> wiehan: is there any data on this array ?
[08:01] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: we only needed to see, the very last line...   ii  bash-completion           20060301-4ubuntu1         programmable completion for the bash shell
[08:01] <nickharper> ikonia: Maybe you can help me? I'm having problems with compiz?
[08:01] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: use  different theme
[08:01]  * Until_It_Sleeps wishes Ubuntu had some sort of remote assistance...
[08:01] <ikonia> nickharper: what sort of problems
[08:01] <wiehan> ikonia: can you walk me through it or give me the link of a PERFECT guide to follow, step by step, I can't find a proper one... I've been trying this so many times
[08:01] <ikonia> Until_It_Sleeps: I've aked you 3 times to stop using the /me commands
[08:01] <Until_It_Sleeps> well, thanks anyways...
[08:01] <ikonia> wiehan: are we ok to recreate it ?
[08:01] <Until_It_Sleeps> Opps... sorry,
[08:01] <wiehan> ikonia: well, no, no data, I don't mind wiping it
[08:01] <etk_> Until_It_Sleeps: it does... its called OpenSSH
[08:02] <wiehan> ikonia: yes we can recreate it
[08:02] <ikonia> wiehan: ok, what are your two disks ?
[08:02] <wiehan> ikonia: /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc
[08:02] <ikonia> wiehan: ahhh
[08:02] <ikonia> wiehan: have you partitioned the disks and marked them as raid partitions ?
[08:02] <Until_It_Sleeps> etk_:  Really. Huh, maybe I should try it tomorrow and let one of you guys do this for me :D.
[08:02] <nickharper> ikonia: I recently went to 8.10 with a geforce 5200 card. Anytime I try to enable something within compiz the box won't check, I can't perform an basic graphical changes.
[08:02] <Circs> I'm having trouble getting my Eee to install Ubuntu, I'm kind of lost... Help?
[08:03] <wiehan> ikonia: I partioned them as XFS file systems.. that's all, I don't even have an idea how to do what you've just said...
[08:03] <ikonia> nickharper: what box won't check
[08:03] <sidhrt> ikonia: can i pm?
[08:03] <ikonia> wiehan: sitck sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb in a pastebin please
[08:03] <ikonia> sidhrt: I'd rather you didn't at the moment, I'm a tad busy
[08:03] <sidhrt> ikonia: okay.
[08:03] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: you were kicked from pasting in too many lines, i only need to see the last line of the output from   dpkg -l bash-completion
[08:04] <nickharper> ikonia: Within compizconfig setings manager, the enable check box for opacity, or generally speaking, anything.
[08:04] <Until_It_Sleeps> I heard, er, saw you the first time.
[08:04] <onetinsoldier> ok
[08:04] <ikonia> nickharper: have you verified that hardware acceleration is running
[08:04] <nickharper> ikonia: No, how would I do that?
[08:04] <wiehan> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/me688dca here buddy
[08:05] <Until_It_Sleeps> onetinsoldier: ii  bash-completio 20060301-4ubun programmable completion for the bash shell
[08:05] <ikonia> nickharper: glxgears is normally a good test
[08:05] <ikonia> wiehan: ok, now we are getting somewhere
[08:05] <ikonia> wiehan: sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
[08:05] <wiehan> ikonia: good, thnks
[08:05] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: ok... you have it... good! do you know how to use Tab completion on the terminal?
[08:05] <nickharper> ikonia: Is that a program I would have to download, or a terminal command, or what?
[08:06] <ikonia> wiehan: type "t" for toggle, and set the patition to type "fd"
[08:06] <ikonia> !compiz > nickharper
[08:06] <ikonia> nickharper: check that guide
[08:06] <Until_It_Sleeps> onetinsoldier: same as in IRC essentially right?
[08:06] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: yes
[08:06] <nickharper> ikonia: Got it, thanks, bbl.
[08:07] <wiehan> ikonia: ok, next (last command was fd... things are going smoothly)
[08:07] <ikonia> wiehan: now use "w" to write it to the disk
[08:07] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: if you are in the same directory as your theme file, then try the following.....
[08:07] <wiehan> ikonia: it is finished... now?
[08:08] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: type in.... tar -ztf ubu    ...then press the Tab key on your keyboard, then press Enter key
[08:08] <ikonia> wiehan: do the same on the other dis, and then do an fdisk -l you should system the "system" type as "LinuxRaid" or something like that in stead of System Linux
[08:08] <Until_It_Sleeps> onetinsoldier: nothing
[08:09] <wiehan> ikonia: ok.. when will it ask me that... I'll ask you here when I get to there?
[08:09] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: ok, i don't know whats wrong then... it should end up looking like this --> tar -ztf ubuntu\ to\ Vista.tar.gz
[08:09] <wiehan> ikonia: otherwise it is the exact same steps?
[08:09] <ikonia> wiehan: it won't ask you about that
[08:09] <onetinsoldier> you can type that in manually... or copy and paste
[08:09] <Until_It_Sleeps> It's on the desktop, which is where the theme archive is located
[08:09] <ikonia> wiehan: same steps on /dev/sdc
[08:09] <Until_It_Sleeps> Oh snap, 1:00 a.m. I gotta get to bed. Cya all later. Talk to you tomorrow onetinsoldier.
[08:09] <ikonia> wiehan: then re-do your fdisk -l /dev/sdb acommand and the ast colum should say linuxraid or autoraid something like that
[08:10] <onetinsoldier> Until_It_Sleeps: ok.. g'night
[08:11] <wiehan> ikonia: Linux raid autodetect
[08:11] <shavin> I just ran apt-get for installing sun java, now when it has started installing a blue screen(showing sun agreement) has come up on the terminal, how do i get past it? I press enter and spacebarbut nothing happens?
[08:11] <ikonia> wiehan: perfect
[08:11] <wiehan> ikonia: cool, what now?
[08:12] <ikonia> wiehan: now, "sudo mdadm --create --level=0 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1
[08:12] <ikonia> wiehan: it may ask you to redo it with --force
[08:13] <Stormx2> shavin, scroll to the bottom...
[08:13] <quanwmang> Hello,everyone
[08:13] <onetinsoldier> hi
[08:13] <wiehan> ikonia: problem: http://pastebin.com/d5a392883
[08:14] <ikonia> wiehan: oops
[08:14] <ikonia> wiehan: now, "sudo mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=0 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1
[08:15] <wiehan> ikonia: trouble again: http://pastebin.com/d3b4a1780
[08:15] <alex_21> Hello, does anyone know of a keyosk browser for Ubuntu that has no toolbar, menubar, or no address bar?
[08:15] <alex_21> Hello, does anyone know of a keyosk browser for Ubuntu that has no toolbar, menubar, or no address bar?
[08:15] <ikonia> wiehan: now, "sudo mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=0 --raid-devices=2 --force /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1
[08:15] <iaindalton> Is there documentation for the new network manager?*** You have joined channel #ubuntu [01:32]
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[08:15] <FloodBot3> iaindalton: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[08:15] <YankDownUnder> Er...thought you could setup Firefox to do exactly that...
[08:16] <spmccann> aleX-xx i believe you can configure firefox to act in this way
[08:17] <alex_21> How, and "no close button"?
[08:17] <ikonia> wiehan: my train is about to stop, so I may vanish for 25 - 30 minutes
[08:17] <wiehan> ikonia: same messages with mdadm: create aborted
[08:17] <ikonia> wiehan: I'm not ignoring you just not at the desk
[08:18] <iaindalton> Does the new network manager have documentation somewhere?  The docs I found through yelp reference the old one from 8.04.
[08:18] <wiehan> ikonia: thanks man, I understand, I'll hange around... just memorize everyhting that happened up until now..
[08:18] <wiehan> ikonia: I really appreciate this, maybe I'll send you something in the post if all works out...
[08:19] <ikonia> wiehan: you "may" want to consider deleting /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdc2 and re-creating them making sure you set the tpe to "fd"
[08:19] <ikonia> wiehan: happy to help don't worry, about to jump off train though
[08:19] <wiehan> ikonia: see you in 30minutes
[08:19] <spmccann> aleX-xx look at this lugin https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1659
[08:19] <wiehan> ikonia: I don't want to mess up our progress...
[08:20] <wiehan> ikonia: I'll wait
[08:20] <ikonia> wiehan: as it thinks /dev/sdc1 is in an array, it may not hurt to delete both partitions and re-create to make sure they have blank header information
[08:20] <ikonia> and no file systme on
[08:20] <ikonia> that help
[08:21] <wiehan> ikonia: still there? How do you mean delete /dev/sdb
[08:21] <iaindalton> I'm trying to set up a static IP address, but I don't know what settings to enter other than the address itself.  What goes in gateway?
[08:21] <alex_21> Does this addon get rid of the close button?
[08:22] <ikonia> wiehan: no open /dev/sdb with fdisk delete the partition (/dev/sdb1) witht he "d" command, then recreate it
[08:22] <ikonia> wiehan: don't forget to do "t" and then "fd" to set the parttiion type to raid AFTER you've recreated
[08:22] <wiehan> ikonia: ok, I'll do that, then follow the command you ordered in here... I'll try... but would appreciate to see you in 30minutes... I'm gonna give it a shot
[08:23] <LoveGuru> Hi, quick question i just compile new kernel but somehow it won't work so just delete that kernel from every where and in update my grub too but when i did " dpkg --list | grep linux-image " it shows my kernel still there .. i remove kernel thorugh apt-get utility. so why dpkg shows its still there?
[08:23] <alex_21> In gateway goes the name of your router, Netmask is usually 255.255.255.0 and dns is dns
[08:23] <ikonia> wiehan: once you have re-created the partitions (don't forget "w" to write and quite fdisk" try the mdadm command I gave you to create the array
[08:25] <iaindalton> alex_21: The gateway field in network-manager expects an IP address.  So, I'd enter something like 192.168.2.1?  Also, what do you mean "dns is dns"?  Do I have to enter DNS for the connection to work?  That field is in a separate area.
[08:28] <spmccann> aleX-21 i'm not sure i'd suggest reading the documenetation, although i thing alt f4 still works
[08:28] <Kate4382> Hello , i have ubuntu intrepid 8.10 , i would like to install old version of g++ , when i type "sudo apt-get install g++-3.4" i get an error msg : Package g++-3.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package ...etc..." ?
[08:28] <alex_21> Oh, I forgot. Your right. It is in another area, specifically /etc/tesolv.conf
[08:28] <alex_21> /etc/resolv.conf
[08:29] <YankDownUnder> Er...a slight Google might help with settings up a kiosk situation, eh? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+question/1169
[08:30] <spmccann> aleX-21 try http://davidstoker.org/blog/2008/05/27/building-a-kiosk-with-firefox-part-1/
[08:31] <alex_21> The page won't work
[08:31] <alex_21> The first one
[08:31] <alex_21> But I found a Keyosk extention
[08:32] <onetinsoldier> Kate4382: well, that version of g++ is not available as a package in ubuntu 8.10
[08:32] <alex_21> Addon, actually
[08:32] <YankDownUnder> Hmmm...if'n ya can't view the page, alex_21, maybe perchance it's a PEBCAK error?
[08:33] <tiyowan> Good morning, folks.
[08:33]  * YankDownUnder checks the time
[08:33] <YankDownUnder> Er, morning?
[08:33] <onetinsoldier> tiyowan: hello there
[08:33] <alex_21> But now it says to use a suitable program for your os, to prevent the user using alt + f4 to close the browser. What is that? *Washes himself for using the word "ALT" which is very horrible*
[08:34] <alex_21> YankDownUnder: It is a screen reader issue, it visually looks OK
[08:35] <YankDownUnder> alex_21: Ah. Clarity is good for clearing things up. Understand now.
[08:35] <alex_21> Does anyone know what kind of application will do this?
[08:36] <YankDownUnder> alex_21: Have you thought about that page I listed about using Sabayon and Firefox?
[08:36] <iaindalton> alex_21: /etc/resolv.conf is system-wide; network-manager is user-specific.  Do you know what files it uses?  Maybe I'll just edit it manually; the interface isn't totally clear and I don't know what to use as DNS.
[08:36] <generalsnus> I have a problem with users unable to mount their USB drives on our thinclients. We use Xubuntu LTSP servers..and authenticate users against M$ server 2003. previously this had worked great.. but   somwhere along with some updates, it must have been broken. I remeber editing a config file to get this working in the first place.. but cant remember witch..  Also adding users to a linux group(fuse), wont work since the us
[08:38] <alex_21> I don't know about network files very well
[08:38] <alex_21> And no, I think that was the page that wouldn't load? What does that do?
[08:38] <wiehan> how do I delete 'partition' /dev/sdb with fdisk...
[08:38] <jway> how can I get the ip of a smb://networkcomputer?
[08:39] <alex_21> And YankDownUnder: No, I think that was the page that wouldn't load? What does that do?
[08:39] <enzotib> wiehan, /dev/sdb is not a partition, it is a full disk device
[08:39] <alex_21> YankDownUnder: No, I think that was the page that wouldn't load? What does that do?
[08:39] <onetinsoldier> where can i find the gnome theme installer?
[08:39] <wiehan> enzotib: ok, how do I delete it, so that I can restart in my task making a RAID
[08:40] <red-sheep> Could somebody correct me on this?  I installed Ubuntu on full LVM HDD.  I made 200MB /boot and 20GB /root.  However, I have free remaining space on the HDD (Even lvdisplay confirmed that).  How would I create a new encrypted partition in that remaining space?
[08:40] <enzotib> wiehan, you can only delete partitions, afaik
[08:41] <etk_> ok i got the right drivers for the webcam to install but now the internal mic for my sony VGN-FZ160E isn't working... anyone know how to resolve this /
[08:41] <iaindalton> onetinsoldier: drag a theme file onto the appearance control panel
[08:41] <dr_kabuto> hi, someone have installed kubuntu kde 4.2 beta pkgs?
[08:41] <kanchana> Hello! I cannot connect to the internet, though I have a network card
[08:42] <kanchana> I am using connection from hub, wired connection, and other cables in other computers work
[08:43] <kanchana> I use laptop ThinkPad IBM about 300MHz and about 400MB RAM and ubuntu 8.10
[08:43] <kanchana> ifconfig can find eth1 easily and give all information
[08:43] <wartalker> kanchana: do your hub support dhcp
[08:43] <wiehan> ikonia: you back yet?
[08:44] <kanchana> but when I connect, it says:Requesting a network address from the wired network...
[08:44] <alex_21> And BTW: how do you get a very basic Gome install onto Ubuntu Server and tell it to start at system startup?
[08:44] <kanchana> and then "Disconnected"
[08:44] <dr_kabuto> every time I try to connect to a site with ssl i get 'connection to host ..... is broken'
[08:44] <kanchana> wartalker: how can I recognize that I have dhcp? I have no knowledge about internet and networks...
[08:44] <wartalker> kanchana: you need to set the ip address
[08:45] <wiehan> alex_21: I am not sure but follow the guide on the latest distrowatch weekly newsletter, it is more or less what you want to do...
[08:45] <v1d4l0k4> http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9550/gpartedby4.png > People, how I can move my extended partition to the left? I want to put my unallocated space to the right, at start of the disk. :S
[08:45] <kanchana> I set it up many times but it seems not to be working
[08:45] <red-sheep> alex_21: Install ubuntu-desktop, me think.
[08:45] <alex_21> Where d I find that?
[08:45] <wartalker> kanchana: route add the gateway
[08:45] <kanchana> wartalker: I set it up many times, but it doesnt seem to work
[08:46] <wartalker> kanchana: the ip should in the same subnet with others ip
[08:46] <red-sheep> v1d4l0k4: Why would you want to do that?
[08:46] <wiehan> alex_21: www.distrowatch.com... scroll down click on DWW
[08:47] <kanchana> wartalker: how can I get to know the number? I tried to gues, but it seems not efficient
[08:47] <infinity1> is there a way to index the email in evolution so i can search it
[08:47] <v1d4l0k4> red-sheep: I need to temporary install Windows in a partition and Windows requires to be the first primary partition >.<
[08:47] <kanchana> wartalker: route add 192.168.1.1 gives: SIOCADDRT: No such device
[08:48] <wartalker> kanchana: you should know the hub setting or ask others
[08:48] <Kate4382> Hello , please can someone help me ? i would like to install old version of g++ (g++-3.4 ) but when i type sudo apt-get install g++-3.4 i get an error : Package g++-3.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, oris only available from another source E: Package g++-3.4 has no installation candidate ?
[08:48] <red-sheep> v1d4l0k4: Temporary?  Why don't you install Windows in VirtualBox?  That's what I do when I need to use my Windows apps.  It's cleaner that way.
[08:48] <Photoguy> Is there an Avant Window Navigation .deb for 8.10?
[08:48] <kanchana> sometimes it even says, that it is connected, and that everything works well, but then I can only send packets, no packets can be received ...
[08:49] <Photoguy> Or is it all source code...:P
[08:49] <kanchana> wartalker: what is the question I should aks?
[08:49] <wiehan> ikonia: you back yet?
[08:49] <veloc1ty> v1d4l0k4, you need to start from the live cd, move the "old" partitions and then create a new one
[08:49] <ftornell> guys, if i wanna make my gnome terminal open up with a certain size, a little bit larger than it is by default how can i accomplish this?
[08:49] <wartalker> the subnet and the router
[08:49] <kanchana> wartalker: I am sorry, I really dont know anything.. :/
[08:50] <v1d4l0k4> red-sheep: Yep, I also have a Windows in VirtualBox. But VirtualBox does not actually support Direct 3D (the last 2.1.0 only supports 3D acceleration). >.<
[08:50] <onetinsoldier> Kate4382: well, that version of g++ is not available as a package in ubuntu 8.10. it 'might' be possible to doesnload the source code and compile it, but it probably a complex package to install next to g++-4.3
[08:50] <red-sheep> ftornell: Right-click on the terminal window -- Look in profile/preferences -- There are some thing you can customize to your liking.
[08:50] <onetinsoldier> download*
[08:50] <wiehan> Is there a app with a GUI to create RAIDs (to span a partition accross 2 HD's)... I'm having trouble with mdadm
[08:51] <kanchana> I have put the same Ubuntu on other computers here and the internet settings were recognized so quickly and automatically, that I never saw such thing before
[08:51] <Photoguy> Is there an Avant Window Navigation .deb for 8.10?
[08:51] <ftornell> red-sheep, i looked there but cant seem to find any re-size settings...
[08:51] <red-sheep> v1d4l0k4: In that case, you should download GParted iso -- It'll allow you to move partitions around.  You'll have to do one thing at a time -- IE -- Stretch size -- Move partition -- Resize -- Move partition -- Etc.
[08:51] <kanchana> But on that my laptop it doesn't work, it only receives some Kbs, but doesn't send anything
[08:51] <Photoguy> oh, it's in the apps, never mind.
[08:51] <generalsnus> how can i add a group that is called " domain^users "  to a group in xubuntu that is called "FUSE"?
[08:51] <Kate4382> onetinsoldier does it will be possible to install this package on ubuntu 8.04 ?
[08:51] <Kate4382> onetinsoldier: does it will be possible to install this package on ubuntu 8.04 ?
[08:52] <v1d4l0k4> veloc1ty, red-sheep: I already tried, but the problem is that the extended partition doesn't move to right >>. :/
[08:52] <wiehan> Photoguy: have you lookid in the repositries, and have you selected "all available applications" in Add/Remove
[08:52] <Photoguy> oh, it's in the apps, never mind.
[08:52] <Photoguy> Thanks
[08:52] <Photoguy> :)
[08:52] <v1d4l0k4> ...neither copy to another space.
[08:53] <onetinsoldier> Kate4382: i really don't know. check http//packages.ubuntu.com/ and see what's available for 8.04.... g++-3.4 sounds very old to me though
[08:53] <veloc1ty> v1d4l0k4, have you booted from a live CD?
[08:53] <v1d4l0k4> veloc1ty: Yep.
[08:53] <chief> hi kate question: , anyone know how to turn the block highlighting off when you mouse over a fold marker ?
[08:53] <veloc1ty> i did that a couple of weeks ago, it was working fine for me
[08:53] <veloc1ty> move the old ones, then create a new one
[08:54] <kanchana> I can't connect to the internet - it is connecting about one minute and then says: Disconnected. Is there any way out?
[08:54] <Kate4382> onetinsoldier: what is the diffrent between gcc and g++ ?
[08:54] <onetinsoldier> Kate4382: gcc is a C compiler and g++ is a C++ compiler
[08:55] <wiehan> Is there a app with a GUI to create RAIDs (to span a partition accross 2 HD's)... I'm having trouble with mdadm
[08:55] <Kate4382> onetinsoldier: does ubuntu have other c++ compilers other than g++ ?
[08:56] <onetinsoldier> Kate4382: i don't know for certain, but i highly doubt it
[08:56] <red-sheep> v1d4l0k4: You can't move them.  You'll have to resize them.
[08:57] <infinity1> wiehan: evms.sf.net
[08:57] <red-sheep> v1d4l0k4: For instance, you want to move extended partition to the right -- You start by stretching the right-side of the said partition (extended) all the way to the right, then you repeat for the said parition (inside) then you move the left-side for the said partition (inside) then you move the left-side for the said partition (extended).
[08:58] <rahiel|^> hi
[08:58] <onetinsoldier> Kate4382:  the Gnu C and C++ compilers work hand in hand, hence, having the same version number as each other. And C/C++ compilers are very very complex to make. it's very doubtful you'll much other than gcc and g++
[08:58] <wiehan> infinity1: thnks
[08:58] <onetinsoldier> you'll find*
[08:59] <rahiel|^> there is also tinycc
[09:00] <Kate4382> onetinsoldier: i am trying to compile some package of "nlp tagger" for my research (studies), last time i use the same package on old ubuntu with g++ compiler 3.4 and its works fine , but now with the new compiler i cant compile to package any idea ?
[09:00] <v1d4l0k4> red-sheep: Ah! I haven't tried this way. Seems perfectly logic, he he he. Thanks for the tip man, I'll reboot now to do the work. Thank you too, veloc1ty. :)
[09:01] <veloc1ty> welcome =)
[09:01] <onetinsoldier> Kate4382: it is possible to have more than one version of these installed at one time, however, the installation is complex and i wouldn't really recommend doing it yourself. i would make sure to use a packaged version made specifically for your version of the OS(ubuntu)
[09:02] <onetinsoldier> Kate4382: how old of ubuntu was it?
[09:02] <onetinsoldier> Kate4382: anyway, i don't really think i can help. no idea really
[09:04] <Lou_> Why is network-manager not good for use on a server? (I'm using ubuntu 8.10)
[09:04] <Lou_>  I'm wanting to use static ip addresses, and I'm thinking network-manager tries to override those static ip addresses. Is that correct?
[09:04] <onetinsoldier> Kate4382: it's possible you might have better luck asking in a channel such as ubuntu-devel
[09:05] <wiehan> infinity1: I looked at evms, I see it only has an 32bit install will it work on my 64bit machine?
[09:05] <kanchana> I cannot connect to internet! ridiculous - it says - :Connection established. But it doesn't receive any data. It only sends some little Kbs. What to do?
[09:06] <Kartagis> hello
[09:06] <onetinsoldier> hi
[09:06] <kanchana> in dmesg it says "eth1: no IPv6 routers present"
[09:06] <Kartagis> does ubuntu have a download accelerator like flashget on windows?
[09:07] <Kartagis> where i can store username and password
[09:07] <kanchana> I have set up all the ip address, gateway, mask etc., but still it doesn't receive any data. Is there any help available?
[09:07] <generalsnus> I have a problem with users unable to mount their USB drives on our thinclients. We use Xubuntu LTSP servers..and authenticate users against M$ server 2003. previously this had worked great.. but   somwhere along with some updates, it must have been broken. I remeber editing a config file to get this working in the first place.. but cant remember witch..  Also adding users to a linux group(fuse), wont work since the us
[09:10] <Sookie> Hi all
[09:10] <jim_p> hi
[09:10] <YankDownUnder> 'lo
[09:10] <alex_21> Thanks for all your help
[09:10] <Sookie> I configured Evolution to access my Exchange account at my office, the auntentication is ok, but when I try to read the emails it just keeps asking me for the password and can't log in, any ideas please?
[09:10] <alex_21> Good night. Bani bash
[09:10] <jim_p> has anyone seen/used/witnessed the use of an application similar to this http://www.heise-online.co.uk/images/112274/1/1 ?
[09:15] <scientes> anyone familier with the nolock nfs bug?
[09:15] <Sookie> Any help with Evolution?
[09:15] <scientes> im trying to do nfs root
[09:18] <jim_p> has anyone seen/used/witnessed the use of an application similar to this http://www.heise-online.co.uk/images/112274/1/1 ?
[09:18] <jim_p> its an application that lists all drivers used. like lspci -k with gui
[09:21] <Sookie> Can somebody help me with Evolution please?
[09:21] <theatrustop> Sookie, it depends what you need help with, its better to just ask
[09:21] <jim_p> Sookie, tell me since no one is around and i may know something
[09:21] <Photoguy> What is that "Mac like" app launcher bar called?
[09:22] <jim_p> Photoguy, avant-window-navigator                      cairo-dock               wbar                  make your pick
[09:22] <Sookie> theatrustop, I already explained twice my problem bellow...
[09:22] <wiehan> Photoguy: There is a lot: AWN, Cairo (i think), simdock, the list goes on
[09:22] <Photoguy> Aah, which is the best?
[09:23] <jim_p> Photoguy, do you want me to make a full list of what each has?
[09:23] <Sookie> jim_p, I configured Evolution to access an Exchange OWA account at my office, while configuring, the autentication test works, however afterwards when trying to access the mailbox it is always asking me for the password and failing during the autentication process
[09:23] <Photoguy> Or most stable.
[09:23] <pakus> Hiya
[09:23] <theatrustop> Sookie, oh boy, I've had that problem before
[09:24] <wiehan> Photoguy: personally I stopped using AWN because it froze permanently... my pc started to run like it had windows installed
[09:24] <jim_p> Photoguy, avant-window-navigator if you dont mind the bar to be on the bottom. wbar if you look for something light
[09:24] <pakus> Do you know a good guide to mount a Remote X Server for 50 users?
[09:24] <Sookie> theatrustop, so you will be my angeld today if you could give me a hand on this!
[09:24] <theatrustop> Sookie, make sure to put in a global address list server (usually the domain controller works fine)
[09:24] <Photoguy> Ok, thanks for the advice.
[09:25] <theatrustop> Sookie, but I've found it to be very fickle and sensitive
[09:25] <Sookie> theatrustop, but I only have http://servername/exchange and my user/password info
[09:25] <theatrustop> Sookie, on another tab there is info for the GAL
[09:26] <theatrustop> and if that doesn't work, sometimes running the connector setup manually works
[09:26] <theatrustop> in short, I gave up on it in the end and just access exchange through imap via thunderbird
[09:26] <theatrustop> :)
[09:26] <Sookie> theatrustop, yes  I know that tab, but I mean that for the server the only infor I have is this: http://servername/exchange, so in GAL should I put just http://servername ?
[09:26] <theatrustop> exchange-connector-setup-2.22 is a binary you can run
[09:27] <theatrustop> no http://, IP address basically
[09:27] <Sookie> theatrustop, I will try
[09:27] <theatrustop> I did have it working for awhile myself but then with some exchange patch the calendaring system would just crash the second you loaded it
[09:28] <Sookie> theacolyte, well, doesn't work
[09:28] <jim_p> has anyone seen/used/witnessed the use of an application similar to this http://www.heise-online.co.uk/images/112274/1/1 ?
[09:28] <Sookie> theatrustop, so what is the alternative? My office only has an Exchange server, no POP
[09:29] <theatrustop> learn to love accessing the stripped down version (for non IE) via a browser :-/
[09:29] <theatrustop> Newer evolution in intrepid might have fixed problems though
[09:30] <dns53> jim_p there is one in apt, it used to be included but was removed in feisty it's gnome hardware or something
[09:30] <Sookie> theatrustop, well, this is really a big handicap for people who want to use Linux in their hostile Microsoft Enviroments
[09:30] <jim_p> dns53, the gnome device manager?
[09:30] <dns53> yes
[09:30] <theatrustop> Sookie, I use Linux at work, with exchange via IMAP
[09:31] <theatrustop> e-mail works which is the important part
[09:31] <Sookie> theatrustop, but I don't think they have IMAP working
[09:31] <ikonia> wiehan: I'm back
[09:31] <Sookie> theatrustop, if so, what software can I use instead? Thunderbird?
[09:32] <Sookie> theatrustop, and then, what about with the global agenda? the public folders that all of us share, etc..?
[09:32] <pakus> I want to configure a Remote X Server using gnome and NX. Now It's working, but gnome tries to launch applet that won't works remotely
[09:32] <obhk_> does anybody know a command line program for filetransfer over ftps (ftp over implicit tls/ssl)?
[09:33] <wiehan> ikonia: hey my friend
[09:33] <ikonia> wiehan: how did you get on
[09:33] <Kartagis> does ubuntu have a download accelerator like flashget on windows? where i can download files from rapidshare
[09:33] <wiehan> ikonia: glad to see you... heck - I've been batteling
[09:33] <ikonia> wiehan: ok, so not good thatn
[09:33] <ikonia> wiehan: explain the current sitaution
[09:33] <ikonia> situaiton
[09:34] <wiehan> ikonia: even tried installing evms (a GUI to do this tyoe of thing)
[09:34] <ikonia> ughhh no
[09:34] <scientes> why does a linux modules [ackage require a image package?
[09:34] <ikonia> scientes they are linked to a kernel
[09:34] <wiehan> ikonia: Is it possible that we can start right from the top... assuming I've done no prep at all...
[09:34] <ikonia> scientes: the image is the kernel
[09:34] <scientes> but i load the kernel from nfs
[09:34] <ikonia> wiehan ok, lets do that.
[09:34] <scientes> but need the modules local of course
[09:35] <theatrustop> Sookie, IMAP access will see shared folders
[09:35] <wiehan> ikonia: I will be pasting the steps one by one into a text file to later on publish somewhere on the net - There really needs to be an easy guide like you do it out there, let that be my contribution at least...
[09:35] <ikonia> scientes I've not followed what you've been doing so can't comment
[09:35] <wiehan> ikonia: lets go...
[09:35] <theatrustop> Sookie, but try the connector setup in evolution
[09:35] <generalsnus> Can somone help me troubleshoot this error mesage? i get it when i try to mount a USB drive: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal").
[09:36] <mosiac> so quick question i have ubuntu installed on my notebook and for some reason when i plug a micro sd card in it says i have to be a super user to mount the device how can i tweakk it
[09:36] <wiehan> ikonia: if it makes any difference: I am ssh'ing in... and documenting the steps will take a tad longer, so bare with me please
[09:36] <Photoguy> *bear
[09:36] <ikonia> wiehan:
[09:36] <ikonia> wiehan: no problem
[09:36] <ActionParsnip1> generalsnus: what is the command you use to mount?
[09:36] <Sookie> theatrustop, can you please give me a general steps list for the connector?
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> !mount | mosiac
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> mosiac: just type sudo mount -a and it should mount
[09:38] <ikonia> wiehan: can you pastebin sudo fdisk -l so I can see the current state
[09:38] <mosiac> it keeps asking me for a filesystem type
[09:38] <mosiac> and no matter what i put it says bad superblock
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> mosiac: ok where do you want to mount it?
[09:39] <blip-> hi all, I have Kubuntu 8.04 and there is a FAT32 partition on my system... everytime I want to mount or unmount this partition through Dolphin filemanager, I get a prompt to enter my password for root access... the problem is when I shutdown the machine as it's shutting down KDE tries to unmount and gives me a password prompt (gui) but there is on time to type it in..... the end result is I usually lose all the changes i've made on the partition during
[09:39] <blip-> that session....  I noticed this partition isn't defined in fstab... is that why it's asking me for passwd every time ?  thanks
[09:39] <mosiac> i made /media/sdcard
[09:40] <Prince> hi all
[09:40] <wiehan> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/d5e64fc36 (don't mind the 8gb flash disk - and my /  is on a 40gb hard drive)
[09:40] <generalsnus> ActionParsnip1: i didnt use a command.. i tried to open the usb drive from desktop
[09:40] <ActionParsnip1> mosiac: ok and what is the partition name (/dev/sdc1 for example) you will see that if you run the commad ikonia said
[09:40] <mosiac>  its /dev/sdc
[09:40] <Sookie> theatrustop, nothing in synaptic under the name of echange-connector
[09:40] <ActionParsnip1> generalsnus: if you right click it and select mout you should be asked for a password
[09:41] <Prince> does anyone know if there is an development environment for c on ubuntu?
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> mosiac: its, /dev/sdc1, /dev/sdc is the disk itself. sdc1 is the first partition and you can only mount partitions
[09:41] <beni-> hi guys. i installed ubuntu from the live-cd and i saw that exim is running... why that? can i disable it? or is some other process relying on a running mailserver?
[09:41] <theatrustop> Sookie, its installed by default with evolution
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> mosiac: ok, what file system is it using?
[09:41] <ikonia> wiehan: ok, that looks pretty good
[09:41] <Unknown0BC> Greetings :D
[09:41] <mosiac> now its using fat32
[09:42] <wiehan> ikonia: ok.
[09:42] <kris_> Hi
[09:42] <ikonia> wiehan: we'll take a slightly different approach here
[09:42] <Unknown0BC> How do I get .amr files played ?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> mosiac: ok then this is easy
[09:42] <riz0n> Is there a way to disable/enable accounts in unbuntu without having to delete them or change the password?
[09:42] <kris_> someone can help me with some server questions ?
[09:42] <kanchana> hello, I am connected but I dont receive any packets, so actually I have no internet connection... it says it is connected, but nothing works - firefox, ping, nothing
[09:42] <ikonia> wiehan: sudo mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 --force /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1
[09:42] <Prince> UnknownOBC: did you tried VLC Media Player.. it can play much formats maybe amr. too
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> mosiac: sudo moubt /dev/sdc1 /media/sdcard -t vfat
[09:43] <dns53> Unknown0BC i think it is going to be hard, try vlc or mplayer but you may need to compile support for it in ffmpeg
[09:43] <Sookie> theatrustop, is it possible to setup thunderbird just knowing http://servername/exchange and user/password data?
[09:43] <ActionParsnip1> Prince: any player can play any file with correct codecs installed
[09:43] <tiyowan> Trying open a gnome-terminal window of a *set* size. Anyone familiar with the command switch to do that? Man page seems to be rather vague on it.
[09:43] <wiehan> ikonia: ok: continue creating array: yes?
[09:43] <mosiac> beautiful thank you
[09:43] <ikonia> wiehan yes please
[09:43] <theatrustop> Sookie, if the IMAP server is on servername, yes
[09:44] <wiehan> ikonia: let me rather give you the pastebin: it gives a lot of messages and warnings about size and percentages and stuff.
[09:44] <ikonia> wiehan: ok, I'm steppign away from my desk for 5 minutes to get a drink, I'll be right back
[09:44] <meckle> need help with zenity text-info
[09:44] <kris_> need to open port 3306 on my ubuntu server 8.10 fot acces with my windows client ...   ?
[09:44] <kanchana_> hello, I cannot connect to the internet.
[09:44] <Sorcererbob> IRC begs to differ :P
[09:45] <kanchana_> It says, that I am connected, but actually it doesnt receive any packets. It just sends Kbs, thats all
[09:45] <kanchana_> everything looks fine, but Firefox doesnt work. Ping also doesnt work
[09:45] <kanchana_> what can I do?
[09:45] <Sorcererbob> kanchana: it'll be an IP or firewall problem likely
[09:45] <tiyowan> nvm, figured it out.
[09:45] <khussein78> hi
[09:45] <Sorcererbob> kanchana: lets see "ifconfig"
[09:45] <kris_> Kancha,  How are you connected to the internet ?  modem ?
[09:46] <khussein78> i have problem with my evolution email, where can ask my questions ?
[09:46] <kanchana_> ifconfig shows both eth1 and lo
[09:46] <Sorcererbob> what is your IP?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip1> kanchanais your browser running offline?
[09:46] <kanchana_> kris_ by wire, ADSL
[09:46] <Sorcererbob> ActionParsnip1: ping doesn't work either
[09:46] <Sookie> theatrustop, ok I installed thunderbird however I can't see any "exchange" option in order to create a new account
[09:46] <ActionParsnip1> kris_: if you havent configured any security, they are open
[09:47] <ActionParsnip1> Sorcererbob: oh
[09:47] <kris_> kancha: so you are behind a modem or behind a router ?  If you are behind a router, you can obtain local connection, but no internet ...
[09:47] <ActionParsnip1> kanchanas: ok, can you ping your routers ip?
[09:47] <kanchana_> actually after starting the Ubuntu, the PC doesn't recognize eth, it shows only "lo", so I have to plug of and put back the ethernet card
[09:47] <riz0n> what is a good program to install on ubuntu to handle configurations through http (apache, bind, accounts, etc) that is similar to cpanel?
[09:47] <kanchana_> kris_ there is no router
[09:48] <kanchana_> kanchana_ there seems to be just modem and connection....
[09:48] <meckle> need help with zenity text-info I'm running this   zenity --text-info filename=/home/myname/Cron/backupALL.log --width 530  but it doesn't show anything in the text info window
[09:48] <jim_p> !apt
[09:48] <jim_p> !checkinstall
[09:48] <kanchana_> Sorcererbob: 192.168.1.1
[09:49] <blip-> where can I set permissions on mounting a partition ?   Everytime I want to mount a FAT32 partition it's asking me for password
[09:49] <kanchana_> sorry - 192.168.1.12
[09:49] <Sorcererbob> kanchana: ok, and the default gateway is .1.1?
[09:49] <kanchana_> Sorcererbob, yes, 192.168.1.1
[09:50] <Sorcererbob> and when you type "ping 192.168.1.1"?
[09:50] <huwenfeng> !url
[09:50] <axyjo> hi all, what does the {a} prefix mean in apt-get/aptitude?
[09:50] <huwenfeng> !basic
[09:50] <huwenfeng> !apt-get
[09:50] <huwenfeng> !Synaptic
[09:51] <MadsRH> How do I make Pidgin start minimized? Is there an option like -q or -s or -m?
[09:51] <kanchana_> Sorcererbob, PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data
[09:51] <ActionParsnip1> axyjo: can you give an example command using this prefix please?
[09:51] <dns53> MadsRH it's in the options
[09:51] <kanchana_> From [ip
[09:51] <MadsRH> dns53 -> thanks
[09:51] <Sorcererbob> kanchana: reply or timeout?
[09:51] <axyjo> ActionParsnip1: it's not a command. when i install certain packages, it shows up next to the names
[09:51] <kanchana_> From [ip] icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
[09:52] <Sorcererbob> how strange
[09:52] <ikonia> wiehan: ok lets continue
[09:52] <Sorcererbob> can other computers ping the router?
[09:52] <kanchana> Sorcererbob, it still does that, only counts the seq=[number]
[09:53] <meckle> __2nd time, same question__ I need help with zenity text-info I'm running this   zenity --text-info filename=/home/myname/Cron/backupALL.log --width 530  but it doesn't show anything in the text info window
[09:53] <wiehan> ikonia: did you read the PMs
[09:53] <Sorcererbob> cool. ctrl+c to make it stop, kanchana. Can other computers ping the router?
[09:53] <ActionParsnip1> axyjo: weird, not sure about that one, now its a little clearer maybe someone can chime in. i personally use apt-get purely
[09:53] <kanchana> Sorcererbob, when I prest Ctrl-C it shows ping statistics: 35 packets transmitted, 0 received, +30 errors, 100% packet loss, time 34132ms, pipe 3
[09:53] <generalsnus> ActionParsnip1: no, i wasnt asked for a password.. nor do i want a password for mounting usb devices
[09:53] <ikonia>  wiehan I can't at the moment, use the pastebin please]
[09:53] <Sorcererbob> ok kanchana: can other computers ping the router?
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> generalsnus: theres a way but i'm unsure, i think ikonia knows of it ;)
[09:54] <axyjo> ActionParsnip1: so do i, and it happens with apt-get too. it doesn't happen with all packages, just certain ones.
[09:54] <wiehan> ikonia: what do you mean? can we go on?
[09:54] <kanchana> Sorcererbob, how can i try it? On the second computer I have windows (from that I am now writing you) so, what should I do to ping router?
[09:54] <ikonia> wiehan: what is the current status
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> generalsnus: it reduces security of the system by allowing users greater access to admin actions though and I dont personally condone it but, its your system
[09:54] <Sorcererbob> kanchana: start > run > cmd
[09:54] <Sorcererbob> kanchana: black window appears. Type "ping 192.168.1.1"
[09:55] <kanchana> exactly, I thought that
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> axyjo: can you give a pastebin example including the command that you execute
[09:55] <kanchana> Sorcererbob, it is pinging very well
[09:55] <wiehan> ikonia: array /dev/md1 started. But first it warned that the one drive is more than 1% larger than the other...
[09:55] <kanchana> Sorcererbob, without any problem or fault
[09:55] <ikonia> wiehan thats fine, thats a very valid warning
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: do you know the method of allowing selected commands to not reqquire sudo please?
[09:55] <ikonia> wiehan: your disks ARE different sizes, so thats great warning
[09:55] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1: setuid ?
[09:56] <Sorcererbob> goodo kanchana: And now I can't remember which functions work on ubuntu... but try "service iptables status"
[09:56] <ActionParsnip1> !setuid
[09:56] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1: you want the command to run as root but not actually require sudo ?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: generalsnus does
[09:56] <meckle> __3rd time, same question__ I need help with zenity text-info I'm running this   zenity --text-info filename=/home/myname/Cron/backupALL.log --width 530  but it doesn't show anything in the text info window
[09:56] <kanchana> Sorcererbob, how? if I write it in terminal it says: iptables: unrecognized service
[09:56] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: for mount
[09:57] <wiehan> ikonia: will that be a problem? I want to be using 250gb + 160gb as a 410gb drive basically?
[09:57] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1 chmod 7750 (last 3 digits are what ever it was before) 7 infront puts setuid on it
[09:57] <Sorcererbob> ok kanchana, thats cool. Its a wired connection, right? not wireless?
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: on the mount binary?
[09:57] <kanchana> Sorcererbob, yes, it is wired connection ADSL without router
[09:58] <ikonia> wiehan: won't be a "problem" as such, it's just a warning that data won't be spread even and there is s slightly bigger chance of file system inconsistancy
[09:58] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1: correct
[09:58] <Unknown0BC> dns53, neither ffplay nor vlc wants ( or mplayer ) wants to play .amr files. How can I get it to work ?
[09:58] <ActionParsnip1> meckle: well then its clear noone can help, id try later when different users are in
[09:58] <wiehan> ikonia: that's ok...
[09:58] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: ty man
[09:58] <Raven> hi
[09:58] <theatrustop> wiehan, but when either disk goes splat, your data is basically gone
[09:58] <Raven> is there any way to use update-java-alternatives to work with a jdk downloaded from sun.com?
[09:58] <mrfelton> hi
[09:58] <ActionParsnip1> generalsnus: did you get all that?
[09:58] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1: fyi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid
[09:58] <elijah_frost> Good day ladies and gentlemen.The question is kinda kubuntu-related but I hope to get help anyway.  How do I switch keyboard layout? KMenu -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout -> XKb options doesn't work for me (I've tried to bind it to ctrl+shift but it doesn't seem to be working). I have no idea why doesn't my binding work. What am I doing wrong if anything?
[09:58] <Sorcererbob> kanchana: when you say "without router" I imagine you mean that the device which connects you to the internet also provides the network functionality. Is that correct?
[09:59] <kanchana> Sorcererbob, exactly :-)
[09:59] <psypher246> hey guys, is there a way to make firefox output debug message to trace why it's crashing. i've tried running from the cli, all it says is aborted
[09:59] <gnomefreak> elijah_frost: did you try in #kubuntu?
[09:59] <ikonia> wiehan: on, NOW that it looks like it's worked (you can cat /proc/mdstat to se the status of the array) do an mdadm --detail --scan and you should have the right info
[09:59] <elijah_frost> gnomefreak: I did
[09:59] <ActionParsnip1> psypher246: run it from terminal without &, you will get outputs
[09:59] <psypher246> nope
[09:59] <psypher246> i tried that
[09:59] <psypher246>  i've tried running from the cli, all it says is aborted
[10:00] <dns53> Unknown0BC amr are kind of experimental (i have never got one myself) but i have heard that the main library ffmpeg does have the option to compile support for it, it is a heavily patent protected format
[10:00] <gnomefreak> elijah_frost: they are better equiped to handle menus and things related to KDE only
[10:00] <Sorcererbob> ok kanchana... lets see "service network restart"
[10:00] <Flegel> hi all! Can anyone help me with domain users pam authorization ?
[10:00] <wiehan> ikonia: /proc/mdstat: command not found
[10:00] <ActionParsnip1> psypher246: then read logs, or you could run firefox --debug (I think, check man firefox)
[10:00] <ikonia> wiehan cat /proc/mdstat
[10:00] <rfxcasey> I am planning on installing XP on another drive I need help Identifying things like HDD 0,1 or 1,1
[10:00] <kanchana> Sorcererbob, I wrote it in terminal and it says: network: unrecognized service
[10:00] <psypher246> --debug goes into some kind of terminal debig mode, don't understand what they want from me after that\
[10:00] <gnomefreak> ActionParsnip1: there is no man page for it
[10:01] <gnomefreak> use firefox help
[10:01] <psypher246> what logs should i specifically look for, tried kernel, syslog, messages
[10:01] <mrfelton> I'm still batteling trying to figure out what is causing my net connection to be slow ridiculously slow ( a usual 70000kbps down to about 95kbps). I have disabled all services on my laptop, installed the firestarter firewall, kicked everyone off the network except my two laptops...
[10:01] <aldin> how do i automaticaly boot vboxdrv module during the boot without "scripting", everytime i had to do modprobe vboxdrv before using vbox, is there some way that kernel remembers my last list of modules?
[10:01] <aldin> * scripting - no manualy typing modprobe vboxdrv in some boot script
[10:01] <wiehan> ikonia: [[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> gnomefreak: http://pwet.fr/man/linux/commandes/firefox
[10:01] <ikonia> wiehan still building the array
[10:01] <luddite> beni : kill it and see what happens. in terminal go "ps aux | grep exim" then find the pid number of the process. then go "kill XXX"
[10:01] <theatrustop> wiehan, did you set up a mirror?
[10:02] <gnomefreak> ActionParsnip1: our package doesnt have a man page
[10:02] <ActionParsnip1> psypher246: http://pwet.fr/man/linux/commandes/firefox
[10:02] <ActionParsnip1> gnomefreak: well everyone elses does
[10:02] <gnomefreak> none of our mozilla packages have a man page
[10:02] <mrfelton> I don't know what else to try :(
[10:02] <ActionParsnip1> gnomefreak: good jo i have a few different linux distros installed eh ;)
[10:02] <gnomefreak> ActionParsnip1: we didnt make one on purpose
[10:02] <Sorcererbob> kanchana: I'm sorry to say it, but I don't recall enough about ubuntu to continue... I've been using CentOS for the last year or so :(
[10:02] <dns53> aldin the file /etc/modules has modules to load on boot
[10:02] <ActionParsnip1> gnomefreak: why, thats silly
[10:02] <Raven> anyone know how to add more options to update-java-alternatives?
[10:03] <mrfelton> I checked for rootkits too - none found
[10:03] <wiehan> ikonia: oh, so it is rebuilding it in the background? So I need to check back concurrently to see when it is 100%... strange..
[10:03] <gnomefreak> ActionParsnip1: not really since help gives you everything
[10:03] <kanchana> Sorcererbob, actually, what's in brief what should I do now?
[10:03] <lianimator> Help on JAVA app with Eclipse? JOptionPane.showInputDialog gives a frozen dialog box. Have to Force Quit.
[10:03] <ActionParsnip1> gnomefreak: well the man page is a few hundred kb in size, every other app has a man page
[10:03] <theatrustop> Raven, use the full update-alternatives
[10:03] <ActionParsnip1> gnomefreak: makes no sense whatsoever
[10:03] <ikonia> wiehan: you got it
[10:03]  * gnomefreak has way too much work to make any so if someone cares to write one we will add it
[10:03] <axyjo> ActionParsnip1: sure http://pastie.org/342167 sorry for the delay
[10:03] <wiehan> lianimator: go to ##eclipse or ##java
[10:04] <psypher246> ActionParsnip1: i'm just trying anything, every single browser i install crashes randomly while browsinf
[10:04] <theatrustop> lianimator, try ##java
[10:04] <mrfelton> One thing I have noticed is that firestarter is catching shit loads of outgoing connections to really random port numbers. How can I find out what these are caused by? They all oriinate from my machine.
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> gnomefreak: just copy that text, its been done for you (?)
[10:04] <psypher246> ActionParsnip1: so what logs do i look at?\
[10:04] <dns53> lianimator adjust the command line options for eclipse to allow java to use more memory
[10:04] <rfxcasey> I am planning on installing XP on another drive I need help Identifying the location of all my partitions
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> psypher246: any and all you can find
[10:04] <mrfelton> if I look up the IP of these connections, they are really really random websites
[10:04] <anon> I'm not quite sure how to phrase this, but is it possible to boot an older kernel with intrepid?
[10:04] <gnomefreak> ActionParsnip1: wish it was that easy
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> psypher246: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles
[10:04] <C0p3rn1c> is there more opensuse like gnome menu for ubuntu ?
[10:04] <anon> i'm experiencing the exact issue in this thread
[10:04] <dns53> anon sure you can
[10:05] <mrfelton> I thought it might have been because someone was bouncing off my apache proxy or something, but I have since turned apache off!
[10:05] <anon> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=972696
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> C0p3rn1c: opensuse uses kde doesnt it?
[10:05] <anon> which also seems to be related to other threads cataloging high cpu use from Xorg
[10:05] <Raven> theatrustop, what is the full update-alternatives?
[10:05] <C0p3rn1c> ActionParsnip1: they use both
[10:05] <lianimator> dns53: care to tell me where to adjust this? in preferences->?
[10:05] <rfxcasey> need help setting up XP dual boot with an existing Ubuntu install
[10:05] <gnomefreak> ActionParsnip1: IIRC you can choose either DE during install
[10:05] <wiehan> ikonia: hang on for me.. it's at 45%... check back in couple of minutes..
[10:06] <C0p3rn1c> ActionParsnip1: I'm going to try opensuse today, after there new release, it looks pretty userfriendly
[10:06] <psypher246> after running firefox --debug and get (gdb)  promnts what then???\/
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> C0p3rn1c: theres a replacement menu system for kde i know of
[10:06] <gnomefreak> rfxcasey: better off havin windows installed first
[10:06] <rfxcasey> gnome
[10:06] <gnomefreak> psypher246: hold on we have a wiki on debugging firefox
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> C0p3rn1c: its good to try differernt distros
[10:06] <anon> dns53, how would you go about loading a much older kernel in Ubuntu 8.10?
[10:07] <theatrustop> Raven, update-alternatives
[10:07] <ActionParsnip1> rfxcasey: if you install windows then ubuntu the dual booting will be handled for you
[10:07] <C0p3rn1c> ActionParsnip1: yes, I'm trying to find a system that works best for everyone in my family
[10:07] <theatrustop> mrfelton, you have some serious issues then
[10:07] <rfxcasey> gnomefreak, I have a tutorial that says all I have to do is save my menu.lst
[10:07] <ActionParsnip1> C0p3rn1c: unless you all have identical needs, its not going to happen
[10:07] <anon> 2.6.27-7-generic and 2.6.27-9 are available in synaptic
[10:07] <mrfelton> theatrustop, yes.. but what!?
[10:08] <theatrustop> mrfelton, lsof -i will show you which process has which network connection open
[10:08] <gnomefreak> rfxcasey: do it as you wish i just suggested the easiest way
[10:08] <ActionParsnip1> rfxcasey: if you install ubuntu first, the grub bootloader will be overwritten and need to be reinstalled from live cd
[10:08] <dns53> lianimator edit the command line for the icon, right click the menu and select edit menu, then edit the eclipse icon, do a search google search for the command line option for memory, i don't have it on me
[10:08] <anon> but the individual lashi in the thread link above suggested a rollback to hardy kernel 2.6.24-21-generic
[10:08] <psypher246> gnomefreak: thanks although the problem is not with FF but with every browser possible on ububtu
[10:08] <C0p3rn1c> ActionParsnip1: yeah I figured that, w'll see, it would be much easyer to manage though
[10:08] <rfxcasey> gnomefreak, the easiest way doesn't involve wiping out my current Linux install
[10:08] <ActionParsnip1> rfxcasey: the menu.lst is untouched, its the boot sector on the physical disk that will point to the windows boot loader
[10:08] <gnomefreak> psypher246: what exactly is it?
[10:09] <anon> to fix the problem
[10:09] <dns53> anon add the sources.list from hardy for example and install it using aptitude/synaptic
[10:09] <psypher246> i'm just grabbing at straws, almost to the point of buying support from canonical but io cannot afford till next year, so completely useless wortk pc till then
[10:09] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip1, ok I know this I just need some details
[10:09] <gnomefreak> rfxcasey: than install windows and use alternate cd to reinstall grub
[10:09] <psypher246> gnomefreak: Cannot browse the internet on either Opera, epiphany or firefox. Since 2 weeks ago my browser just crashes all the time. I have tried safe mode, new profile, re-install ff, all plugins disabled, , disabled compiz, uninstall java, uninstall flash and a heavy system stress test. Nothing works. FF and other browsers will still randomly crash. I have started a forum post on the problem but no resolution yet: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread
[10:09] <anon> dns53, ok to pm?
[10:09] <riz0n> Just out of curiosity, is webmin a good web-based application for Ubuntu server?
[10:09] <dns53> anon you could also look through your hardy mirror and download the .deb and install it
[10:09] <ActionParsnip1> rfxcasey: what do you need?
[10:09] <stefg> wiehan: that's actually a quite straightforward thing. The only catch is that teh win installer  will overwrite your mbr, so you will have to restore grub afterwards
[10:09] <ActionParsnip1> !webmin | riz0n
[10:09] <mrfelton> theatrustop, but I don't see anything abnormal... 5xskype, 1xirc, 7xthunderbird, 7xjava + 1 ssh
[10:09] <dns53> anon go ahead
[10:10] <riz0n> !ebox
[10:10] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip1, I need to know how to Identify where my partition are you know like 0,1 and 1,1
[10:10] <generalsnus> how can i get usb disk to mount automaticly on desktop in xubuntu? or how can i make a application launcher on desktop..with the command: thunar /media/$USER/usbdisk-sda1
[10:10] <gnomefreak> psypher246: that isnt a browser bug, that is something on the system doing it
[10:10] <theatrustop> psypher246, if you're have crashing issues with everything, its either a shared library got whacked (try aptitude reinstall) or your system has serious RAM consistency issues
[10:10] <theatrustop> mrfelton, watch out for Skype, it can turn your system into a routing supernode
[10:10] <acedip> i'm getting following errors when i did a fsck on my external drive http://pastebin.com/m57d98048
[10:10] <meckle> Are there any users online who know anything about Zenity?
[10:11] <stefg> generalsnus: actually that should be default behaviour. does it not work ?
[10:11] <acedip> any help here
[10:11]  * mrfelton quits skype!
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> rfxcasey: 0 is the first disk, 1 is the second disk etc. 0,0 is first disk first partition, 0,1 is first disk second partition
[10:11] <mrfelton> theatrustop, I never knew that
[10:11] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip1, I don't know a whole lot about why the storage device manager calls it sda and sdb but in other context it is hdd 0,1
[10:11] <wiehan> ikonia: what's this I hear about restoring GRUB after this?
[10:11] <JumboJellyfish> no skype on ubuntu?
[10:11] <stefg> !grub | wiehan
[10:12] <Ranakah> JumboJellyfish  getdeb.com
[10:12] <psypher246> theatrustop: heavy system stress test.  not ram . aptitude reinstall? will that reinstall all apps and not hose my current config?
[10:12] <ChrisBookwood> Hi
[10:12] <theatrustop> psypher246, you have to name the packages
[10:12] <theatrustop> psypher246, you can try debsums too
[10:12] <theatrustop> psypher246, see if anything got changed
[10:12] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip1, Well I know this and when I installed Ubuntu I put it on the second disk which is on a SATA1 controller and later I would put XP on the SATA2 controller for more speed gaming
[10:12] <psypher246> debsums?
[10:13] <wiehan> stefg: I know exatly what GRUB is... but wasn't aware of this
[10:13] <generalsnus> stefg: no it dosent.. i can find the usb disk at /media/usbdisk-sda1
[10:13] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip1, my mobo has both types
[10:13] <aiso> hi all -can canybody recommend a good CLI file manager that would let me select multiple (random) files in a folder and then copy them somewhere else?
[10:13] <ChrisBookwood> Which email application should I use, if I want to be able to make birthdaycard like email, and other stuff like that? I use evolution at the moment
[10:13] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip1, and I have 2 drives
[10:13] <theatrustop> psypher246, goes through your package repository and verifies checksums on installed files
[10:13] <theatrustop> like, all of them
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> rfxcasey: i think !grub will tell youo how to identify
[10:13] <theatrustop> aiso, midnight commander ?
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> !grub | rfxcasey
[10:13] <gnomefreak> aiso: did you try MC?
[10:13] <psypher246> theatrustop: now THAT is the shit!!!
[10:13] <stefg> generalsnus: then check that 'show volimes on desktop' option is checked in the xfce settings
[10:14] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip1 yeah the default is menu.lst I have it backed up to a flash disk already
[10:14] <theatrustop> psypher246, had a server that subtly whacked libc once in an XFS accident
[10:14] <ActionParsnip1> psypher246: you could use apt-build and rebuild your system from source
[10:15] <ActionParsnip1> rfxcasey: well if no disks move then it should be the same
[10:15] <psypher246> theatrustop: k it's running, will it output if there any errors at the end or should i grep for errors?\
[10:15] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip1, so how do I know what is the primary drive?
[10:16] <theatrustop> run it -c or -s to just show errors
[10:16] <psypher246> ActionParsnip1: heard bout that. will check it out. the only thing i want to avoid is a re-install, just too much work and no bandwidth
[10:16] <stefg> So here we have 'firefox-blurry-fonts'-problem... once again. with every new release and new xorg-version you have to find a different workaround to the font mess in linux .... i'm so tired of it. This time it's espicially
[10:16] <psypher246> ActionParsnip1: i'll do ANYTHIGN to not re-install
[10:16] <ActionParsnip1> psypher246: made my firefox and fretsonfire run like a dream
[10:16] <stefg> .. especdially the ubuntu pages which got substituted a quite stupid font, which renders bad in firefox
[10:17] <ActionParsnip1> psypher246: its doesnt reinstall, just makes new files from source with the optomisation you choose
[10:17] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip1, I have a samsung and a western digital I believe the samsung is on the Sata II controller which I only have one of and the WD is on one of my 2 regular Sata controllers
[10:17] <stefg> Anyone already went thru this and has some advice
[10:17] <psypher246> so it's kind of like debian from scratch?
[10:17] <ChrisBookwood> Which email application should I use, if I want to be able to make birthdaycard like email, and other stuff like that? I use evolution at the moment
[10:17] <theatrustop> ActionParsnip1, I thought the firefox debuild masked out any custom optimization settings?
[10:17] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip1, my ubuntu install should be on the 1.5Gbs Sata
[10:17] <ActionParsnip1> rfxcasey: read the !gru stuff, i think it helps identify the drives and partitions
[10:17] <riz0n> well it appears that the "Ebox" installation procedures on the page provided by !ebox is inaccurate
[10:18] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip1,
[10:18] <rfxcasey> ok one more question
[10:18] <gnomefreak> !ebox
[10:18] <tiyowan> stefg: I'm sorry, I missed the description of your problem. Could you repeat it please?
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> theatrustop: runs the sme customisations here, just smoother as i ave it sse3 ;)
[10:18] <gnomefreak> riz0n: what is wrong with the output of !ebox?
[10:18] <theatrustop> they must have changed that then
[10:19] <theatrustop> I should try it on my 64bit machine with gcc 4.3 and -mtune=core2
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> theatrustop: i can only tell you what i see, maybe they did
[10:19] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip1, if I had a 2 swap partitions, one on each drive (I did it with partitionmagic....don't ask why) how can I be sure if I delete the one on the future windows disk it won't screw up my machine
[10:19] <gnomefreak> ikonia: are you able to edit bot triggers incase i miss the problem with it?
[10:19] <riz0n> on the page, it instructs you to put the following line in your sources.list: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/juruen/ubuntu/ hardy main then do sudo apt-get update
[10:19] <riz0n> when you actually do the update it returns a 404 file not found
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> rfxcasey: check the fstabs of the installed linuxes
[10:20] <stefg> tiyowan, the problem is that fonts render differently in each version of ubuntu... in intrepid the problem is that a lot of web pages have blurry fonts, because the font substitution stupidly chooses a font which isn't hinted right for this xorg-version
[10:20] <C0p3rn1c> ActionParsnip1: I just asked in #opensuse and it's gnome, if your interested you can check out the demo here : http://www.novell.com/linux/demos/desktop.html (this is the enterpise edition but it looks the same in opensuse)
[10:20] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip1, how do I do that
[10:20] <ikonia> gnomefreak: I think so
[10:20] <rww> riz0n: oh, so the wiki page is wrong, not the factoid?
[10:20] <riz0n> the factoid works
[10:20] <gnomefreak> riz0n: thats the PPA most likely he dropped the packages but i will look. do yuou have correct repos for it?
[10:20] <riz0n> the wiki page isn't
[10:21] <tiyowan> stefg: Indeed. My fonts looked horrible when I installed intrepid, but I found a nice fix btw.
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> rfxcasey: read /etc/fstab of each system and make sure its not poiting /swp to the other drive
[10:21] <riz0n> i dont think i do
[10:21] <riz0n> i just want to make sure im using the latest version of the code
[10:21] <C0p3rn1c> ActionParsnip1: Maybe it's a good idea to port these menu's to ubuntu
[10:21] <emman1> how do i connect to undernet server in a gaim program?
[10:21] <gnomefreak> riz0n: ok let me look into it. give me a few minutes
[10:21] <stefg> tiyowan so i'm eager to hear it :-)
[10:21] <ikonia> emman1 gaim is dead, its replaed with pidgin
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> C0p3rn1c: what menus?
[10:22] <C0p3rn1c> ActionParsnip1: start menu and configuration tools
[10:22] <psypher246> theatrustop: what shoudl i look for when debsums is finished?
[10:22] <emman1> really? but i still use it with my yahoo account
[10:22]  * gnomefreak doesnt have a browser atm so it may be a while
[10:22] <allsystemsarego> tiyowan, how did you fix the ugly fonts?
[10:22] <theatrustop> any checksums mismatched
[10:22] <emman1> it still work.
[10:22] <ikonia> emman1 what version of ubuntu are you on ?
[10:22] <tiyowan> stefg: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/10/15/tweak-your-font-rendering-for-better-appearance/ <- I had to edit my fonts.conf file. Apparently, there's a patent issue with Apple, which is why this wasn't included in Intrepid by default.
[10:22] <rfxcasey>  read the !gru stuff, i think it helps identify the drives and partitions????? where do I find this
[10:23] <theatrustop> missing is usually ok, some packages don't include checksums
[10:23] <stefg> what bugs me most is that especially the ubuntu doc looks terrible..
[10:23] <emman1> actually im using it in windows
[10:23] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip1,  read the !gru stuff, i think it helps identify the drives and partitions????? where do I find this
[10:23] <rww> !windows | emman1
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> C0p3rn1c: theres one in kde called kmenu edit, i dunno what it is in gnome
[10:23] <emman1> i use gaim instead of ym
[10:23] <ikonia> emman1: so why are you asking us about it ?
[10:23] <psypher246> theatrustop: well it looked like everything said ok running it again with -a -s swithc  (all and silent, only report errors)
[10:23] <gnomefreak> riz0n: go to launchpad.net and search for the package and you should see bzr branches on the source page find out what branches are there and you should find a PPA
[10:23] <stefg> tiyowan, thx! excellent find
[10:24] <emman1> because gaim is open source, maybe
[10:24] <ActionParsnip1> !grub | rfxcasey
[10:24] <ikonia> emman1 this isn't an open source channel, it's a channel for ubuntu support only
[10:24] <gnomefreak> gaim is gone
[10:24] <tiyowan> stefg: I'm using an LCD btw. Following the instructions in the post made everything beautiful. Also, you might want to install the liberation and ms font packages. I use liberation as my system default. *Much* better.
[10:24] <emman1> ok sorry
[10:24] <C0p3rn1c> ActionParsnip1: ic, ok I will google it some more
[10:24] <emman1> can you tell me a channel for that
[10:24] <ActionParsnip1> C0p3rn1c: try www.ask.com too
[10:25] <gnomefreak> emman1: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:25] <ikonia> emman1: try windows
[10:25] <emman1> ty
[10:25] <ikonia> emman1: ##windows sorry
[10:25] <riz0n> wasn't gaim replaced with pidgin
[10:25] <gnomefreak> or windows
[10:25] <gnomefreak> riz0n: yes
[10:25] <riz0n> gnomefreak thats what i thought
[10:25] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip1, sorry I am pretty newb I don't understand what !grub is
[10:25] <theatrustop> riz0n, yes, though pidgin is gaim renamed to not have 'AIM' in its name
[10:26] <gnomefreak> riz0n: IIRC alot of the code was replaced as well
[10:26] <riz0n> gnomefreak: i am going to install what is in the universe repository. i am just looking for something to administer my web server since webmin is no longer supported
[10:26] <Photoguy> I'm trying to install Wbar from the terminal. Here is what it says: http://pastebin.com/m522e0e0
[10:26] <gnomefreak> rfxcasey: go to one of the links from the output of !grub
[10:26] <emman1> so can pidgin now view a cam?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip1> !grub > rfxcasey
[10:27] <rfxcasey> !grub
[10:27] <stefg> tiyowan, i have them too... it's not that all pages look bad, just some... my guess is that the font-substitution for Helvetica simply takes a bad choice. The trouble in linux is that any given font is optimized for ONE rendering setting. So if you enable full hinting you can throw out all the Nimbus and Free- family and are left with DejaVu/Ditstrem Vera and Liberation
[10:27] <ActionParsnip1> rfxcasey: ubottu is telling you, hes told you 3 times now
[10:27] <saywot> erm, how might one install XINE in Intrepid Ibex (not gxine, not Kaffeine - I know they use the same engine but I'm after the Xine GUI)
[10:27] <Photoguy> I'm trying to install Wbar from the terminal. Here is what it says: http://pastebin.com/m522e0e0
[10:27] <Photoguy> It won't work
[10:28] <rfxcasey> ok thanks guys I will read this Grub info
[10:28] <tiyowan> stefg: Interesting point. I personally haven't noticed anything odd after trying out the tweaks I mentioned. Give it a shot? :-)
[10:28] <ikonia> Photoguy that file is not in the directory
[10:28] <allsystemsarego> Photoguy, you need to cd into the directory where that file is located
[10:28] <Photoguy> I put it on the desktop
[10:28] <Photoguy> cd?
[10:28] <ikonia> Photoguy: the fact that you can't read the error message and still blindly type "make" suggests you should %100 not be doing this
[10:29] <allsystemsarego> Photoguy, cd ~/Desktop
[10:29] <Photoguy> Ok
[10:29] <Photoguy> I saw "no directory"
[10:29] <Photoguy> That's not hard.
[10:29] <gnomefreak> ok ill be back need to finish this build :(
[10:29] <ikonia> Photoguy you should not be blidnly typing make on a box
[10:30] <ikonia> Photoguy is wbar the band width monitor you want ?
[10:30] <Photoguy> I'm in the terminal, I have specific instructions http://www.linux.com/feature/128982
[10:30] <Photoguy> No, I just want Wbar.
[10:30] <riz0n> Wow, this eBox package is installing a whole bunch of stuff on here.
[10:30] <stefg> tiyowan, yeah sure... i'm surprised that the BCI is suddenly turned off in intrpid. since dapper ubuntu came with compiled-in and enabled BCI in libfreetype... so i blamed the new xorg version
[10:30] <Photoguy> Is there a better way to install?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip1> !info wbar
[10:31] <allsystemsarego> Photoguy, sudo apt-get install bwbar
[10:31] <ikonia> Photoguy the radio tool ?
[10:31] <riz0n> well i just lost access to my server :/
[10:31] <ikonia> allsystemsarego thats a different package
[10:31] <psypher246> theatrustop: does any of these output mean a problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87708/
[10:31] <tiyowan> Photoguy: Wbar is a quick launch bar...any particularly reason why you can't use something else instead?
[10:31] <terryx> can't enable desktop effects, help me please........
[10:31] <Photoguy> what's wrong with wbar?
[10:31] <chatty> !ccsm > terryx
[10:32] <ikonia> Photoguy nothing, but you are not comforatable building it and could do a lot of daamage to your system
[10:32] <Photoguy> Ok, is there a somplace else to install it?
[10:32] <ikonia> Photoguy: there is an ubuntu package on getdeb
[10:32] <Photoguy> Like a .deb file?
[10:32] <tiyowan> Photoguy: I'm sure nothing's wrong it, but I think you need to be a bit more knowledgeable when you're compiling stuff. It could end up damaging your system.
[10:32] <Photoguy> Oh.
[10:32] <riz0n> The last line I seen on SSH before my connection was dropped is: Setting up ebox-network (0.11.99-0ubuntu1) ...
[10:32] <Photoguy> Ok, thanks for the warnings!
[10:32] <shiv_j> I am able to do sudo apt-get install mplayer but this does not show in synaptic why so?
[10:32] <terryx> hey chatty: help me man..
[10:33] <tiyowan> terryx: What was the model of your video card again?
[10:33] <chatty> terryx please ask a specific question then
[10:33] <terryx> nvidia
[10:33] <allsystemsarego> Photoguy, you should stick with installing from repositories unless you're working in a sandbox
[10:33] <Stavros> i have a headless machine that's behaving oddly, how can i check the memory/disk?
[10:33] <terryx> before its was working very good n cool
[10:33] <ikonia> allsystemsarego it's not in the repos
[10:33] <terryx> but suddenly its gone
[10:33] <ikonia> allsystemsarego: check before suggesting random things
[10:33] <tiyowan> terryx: nvidia and? model? As in Radeon, Geforce etc.
[10:34] <terryx> geforce fx5500
[10:34] <Photoguy> ikonia, wbar doesn't show up on getdeb..
[10:34] <terryx> my driver already activated
[10:34] <chatty> terryx before what; what happened to change it
[10:34] <b1n42y> psypher246: mismatches look like they are all config files so maybe they got chnaged as a result of install, but ye geta  2nd opinion
[10:34] <terryx> i mean the problem occur today
[10:34] <ikonia> Photoguy must have been removed, I was reading an archive post
[10:34] <tiyowan> Could someone look into terryx's problem, please? I need to go on a short break.
[10:34] <Photoguy> Ah, bother.
[10:34] <terryx> and before today it was woreking fine
[10:34] <Photoguy> NO other way?
[10:34] <Photoguy> *no
[10:34] <apollo13> hi, is firefox on 8.04 crashing after the http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-690-1 update for you?
[10:34] <Stavros> is there any way to unmount the system disk?
[10:35] <chatty> terryx try disabling then re-enabling
[10:35] <ikonia> Stavros not while it's in use
[10:35] <Stavros> ikonia: hmm :/
[10:35] <riz0n> Anyone have any idea why eBox install would drop my network connection
[10:35] <Photoguy> ikonia, not other way to get the .deb or something?
[10:35] <bushd> I got my integrated webcam working but I'm not sure if it was due to the Xawtv or chmod (777) I did on /dev/video0.  My question is can I mod /dev/video0 so I won't have to run programs accessing /dev/video0 with sudo (requiring passwords on app launches).
[10:36] <allsystemsarego> apollo13, you mean 3.0.5 ?
[10:36] <psypher246> i was tailing /var/log/messages kern debug and syslog, not a single error when FF just crashed AGAIN!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!
[10:36] <b1n42y> riz0n: does it need a keep alive command maybe ?
[10:36] <apollo13> allsystemsarego: jup, 3.0.5 came in via that
[10:36] <terryx> ITS ALREADY DISABLE
[10:36] <ikonia> Photoguy from where, the only on eI can find is here http://code.google.com/p/wbar/downloads/list it's for debian, but it may work depending its' dependencies
[10:36] <allsystemsarego> apollo13, works fine so far
[10:36] <terryx> its already disable
[10:36] <terryx> and i can't enable it
[10:36] <psypher246> this is nuts,  why am i wishing to be aback on windows, bad bad thoughts!!!
[10:36] <shiv_j> I cannot see some packages in synaptic even though they are installed via terminal. All filter is set in synaptic still...
[10:37] <ikonia> psypher246: run firefox from a terminal to get debugging
[10:37] <wiehan> ikonia: it is finished at 100&
[10:37] <chatty> terryx alt f2 compiz --replace
[10:37] <terryx> and my nvidia setting is not working as well
[10:37] <dimebar> psypher246: were you running it from the terminal? did it spit anything out there?
[10:37] <wiehan> ikonia: it is finished at 100% - What now
[10:37] <psypher246> ikonia: already done that
[10:37] <ikonia> psypher246: it's very unlikey the kernel/syslog would care if a desktop application crashed
[10:37] <wiehan> sudo mdadm --detail --scan
[10:37] <psypher246> no like i have said all that ever gets reporeted is :aborted
[10:37] <ikonia> wiehan: sudo mdadm --detail --scan
[10:37] <ikonia> wiehan: you got it
[10:37] <apollo13> allsystemsarego: just found out some /usr/lib/firefox3.0.4 was still running, maybe that's the cause, let's try :)
[10:37] <dimebar> psypher246: what plugins/addons do you have?
[10:37] <wiehan> ARRAY /dev/md1 level=raid1 num-devices=2 metadata=00.90 UUID=2f5a9c35:0dc5194f:d12aac97:1c8d863e
[10:38] <ikonia> psypher246 are all plugins disabled
[10:38] <ikonia> wiehan thats more like it,
[10:38] <riz0n> I guess eBox isn't the way t go.
[10:38] <psypher246> sorry for sdaying this stuff again, but it;s just easier:
[10:38] <psypher246> I have tried safe mode, new profile, re-install ff, all plugins disabled, , disabled compiz, uninstall java, uninstall flash and a heavy system stress test. Nothing works. FF and other browsers will still randomly crash. I have started a forum post on the problem but no resolution yet: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6391180#post6391180.  I am not the only person it seems with this issue : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=990649&high
[10:38] <wiehan> BUT:::: the one we created earlier is making trouble:
[10:38] <wiehan> mdadm: bad uuid: UUID=
[10:38] <wiehan> mdadm: ARRAY line /dev/md0 has no identity information.
[10:38] <ikonia> wiehan: now put that in a file called /etc/mdadm.conf, all on line
[10:38] <ikonia> wiehan: forget that
[10:38] <allsystemsarego> apollo13, kill ff and make sure it isn't running somewhere hidden
[10:38] <ikonia> wiehan: that will clean up on your next reboot
[10:38] <wiehan> ikonia: I trust you
[10:38] <Photoguy> ikonia, thank you!
[10:38] <dimebar> psypher246: did you have flash open at the time? (flash has given me some trouble in the past)
[10:39] <bushd> psypher: It wouldn't be compiz -- your other applications would experience the crashing.
[10:39] <psypher246> flash is not installed
[10:39] <psypher246> the porblem is NOT flash
[10:39] <allsystemsarego> apollo13, System-Admin-SystemMonitor - End process
[10:39] <riz0n> I guess I should just stick with Webmin... such a shame.
[10:39] <bushd> Psypher are you running x86 or 64
[10:39] <apollo13> allsystemsarego: yeah that was the cause, and now I prefer the console ;)
[10:39] <psypher246> 64bit
[10:39] <apollo13> no*
[10:40] <psypher246> and i just know i am going to spend a week getting my pc reinstalled just to havbe this issue again when i update
[10:40] <bushd> I didn't like 64bit myself, running 32bit on my amd64
[10:40] <psypher246> 64bit has been AAAWESOME till 2 weeks ago. so far intreopid 64 has been the BEST ubuntu yet on my machine
[10:40] <psypher246> hardfy SUUUCKED and until intrepid 64 my pc was not nearly as fast as it shold be
[10:40] <bushd> Most likely it is FF or flash and I only bring up flash because I know they recently started pushing it out
[10:40] <hateball> Nothing wrong with 64-bit... got both Sun Java plugin and Flash for it now :)
[10:41] <psypher246> hateball: excatly
[10:41] <blip99> hi all,  i got my 56K dial-up USB modem configured and working.  I connected via Knetworkmanager.... the problem is I don't hear the pshhhh pshhhh ting tong sound while it's connecting.   I have the volume set on max in the modem config (in knetworkman) as well as system volume.    I really need the sound to debug my modem during travels.
[10:41] <terryx> NO USE
[10:41] <b1n42y> psypher246: have you tried konqueror
[10:41] <psypher246> i have been SOO happy with intrepid 64 till last week
[10:41] <psypher246> no i haven't good idea
[10:41] <b1n42y> psypher246: opera
[10:41] <riz0n> Guess i get to drive 200 miles to reboot this server that eBox install crashed.
[10:41] <blip99> it's an external USB modem I mean
[10:41] <riz0n> Fun.
[10:41] <psypher246> opera and epiphany both crash the same as FF
[10:41] <blip99> 200 miles
[10:41] <blip99> nice
[10:42] <riz0n> yeah
[10:42] <dimebar> psypher246: hmmm its no other programs crash just browsers?
[10:42] <b1n42y> psypher246: or any other pretty good replacement ... then you can slowly as a hobby without going crazy seek the answer you seek
[10:42] <ikonia> psypher246 have you considered the fact you may have a hardware issue, such as bad memory ?
[10:42] <Photoguy> It says my "administrative rights" password is wrong! I know it's right, it's the same as login, right?
[10:42] <dimebar> ikonia: surely that'd affect stuff other than browsers?
[10:42] <bushd> Psypher if multiple browsers are crashing then find out the packages they use between them.
[10:42] <blip99> riz0n: can't you got someone else to reboot it ?   I'm assuming it's a server at work... maybe only you have physicall access ?
[10:42] <ikonia> Photoguy what says that, what command ar eyou using
[10:42] <psypher246> i have already stated that i have heavey system sress test, ram memtest 5 passes no errors, ran stress for 2 hours no errors
[10:42] <ikonia> dimebar maybe/maybe not
[10:43] <Photoguy> When I try to install the package..
[10:43] <bushd> That will help you narrow down what could be causing the error.
[10:43] <Photoguy> It says that.
[10:43] <ikonia> dimebar: maybe a bad network card module
[10:43] <Photoguy> After clikcing on the .deb
[10:43] <wiehan> ikonia: Ok, I did that... are we done? Will GRUB be ok and instact?
[10:43] <ikonia> Photoguy: do "sudo dpkg -i $package_name.deb" from the command line in the same directory as the deb file
[10:43] <ikonia> wiehan: %100 dne, reboot and it should auto start
[10:44] <ikonia> wiehan: it's not a boot drive so grub doesn't care
[10:44] <ikonia> wiehan: grub is %100 untouched
[10:44] <Gh0stN0te> hi.all
[10:44] <psypher246> ikonia: hardware is not the problem
[10:44] <b1n42y> psypher246: also you should take into account all logs and what was happening at time of crash as well as application specific information, do you use your computer for anything else than internet browsing ?
[10:44] <riz0n> well i may be able to get someone to reboot the machine later in the day, BUT if the machine doesn't come back up, I'm the only person that knows anything about it to bring it back up
[10:44] <amortvigil> hey do all installed debs get saved on youe pc?
[10:44] <ikonia> amortvigil: no
[10:44] <psypher246> yes it's my work pc. i have checked messages, debug, kern, and syslog, no errors
[10:44] <Stavros> amortvigil: not all
[10:44] <riz0n> I just don't get what was going on with the eBox install that would have caused this thing to become unresponsive
[10:44] <bushd> Psypher Also, like someone mentioned start firefox from a terminal with firefox -g
[10:44] <psypher246> the rest of the PC is fine, just ALL browsers
[10:45] <b1n42y> \var\cache\apt or sumtin like that
[10:45] <wiehan> ikonia: I love you. Can I have your babies? Really.
[10:45] <ikonia> wiehan: glad your working
[10:45] <wiehan> ikonia: do you have paypal
[10:45] <Photoguy> ikonia \adams\home like that
[10:45] <Stavros> does anyone here have an eee box that can help me with something?
[10:45] <psypher246> i have laready tried from the terminal, all it says is aborted. what do you do after you do firefox -g?
[10:45] <blip99> eeeeeeee eeeeeeee
[10:45] <ikonia> psypher246: you may want to look at options such as your network card, what model is that and what kernel module isin use
[10:45] <ikonia> wiehan: no need for that
[10:45] <ikonia> psypher246: where ever YOU put it
[10:45] <b1n42y> psypher246: dont only look for errors, i said whats happening in logs at time of crash maybe you can cross ref
[10:46] <wiehan> ikonia: Man, you took hours of your time helping me out...
[10:46] <ikonia> psypher246 sorry mot you
[10:46] <ikonia> wiehan: no sweat
[10:46] <psypher246> b1n42y: which lopgs, i don't know where else to look
[10:46] <wiehan> ikonia: If you ever need some help with webdesign or java programming, give me a ring..
[10:46] <ikonia> wiehan: it's fine, happy to help
[10:46] <Photoguy> ikonia \adams\home like that, type into the termianl?
[10:46] <ikonia> Photoguy: where ever YOU put it
[10:47] <psypher246> bushd: wehat do you do after you did firefox -g?
[10:47] <C0p3rn1c> yay suse style gnome on ubuntu : http://www.justuber.com/blog/2007/03/11/suse-style-gnome-menu-on-ubuntu-edgy/
[10:47] <wiehan> Everybody: ikonia is a legend! He is what defines the open source community... thanks to everyone else for the help as well
[10:48] <bushd> The help says use default /usr/bin/gdb/whateveryouwant
[10:48] <ikonia> C0p3rn1c thats very old,
[10:48] <Phil__> hello, I have lost connection to the internet, still have limited LAN connection - any ideas?
[10:48] <ikonia> psypher246: check your gateway,
[10:48] <b1n42y> psypher246: dono bro look through all of em, i havent got into logs yet, but id be looking into that, sometimes i imagine it is possible for something to initiate - work - but break something else, also what kind of internet adsl, cable?
[10:48] <bushd> So run firefox -g /usr/bin/gdb/crashy
[10:48] <ikonia> psypher246: ughh sorry again, not you
[10:48] <psypher246> ikonia: ???
[10:48] <psypher246> lol\
[10:48] <ikonia> Phil__: check your gateway
[10:48] <C0p3rn1c> ikonia: I know, but it's still pretty nice
[10:48] <psypher246> b1n42y: doesn't matter i work at an isp at home i have dsl
[10:49] <ikonia> C0p3rn1c: try to keep this channel to relevant support please.
[10:49] <Phil__> ikonia - yeah, I did, it matches the one that the rest of the computers are using
[10:49] <bushd> I was curious if anyone know why nm-applet has horrible problems with WPA2 GTK connections
[10:49] <C0p3rn1c> ikonia: ok
[10:49] <psypher246> well the ojnly logs i know is message, debug, syslog, kern etc
[10:49] <ikonia> Phil__: check that gateway is not blocking you
[10:49] <b1n42y> psypher246: where does it happen ?
[10:49] <psypher246> everywgere
[10:49] <ikonia> Phil__: check your browsers are not using a proxy or marked in "offline" mode.
[10:49] <kise> I am using Multidisk, is it possible to add disks to the exsiting array?
[10:49] <sidhrt> can anyone help with my usb hard drive problem, please?
[10:49] <Photoguy> Sorry ikonia, like this?  adams\home\sudo dpkg -i $wbar_1.3.3_i386.deb  that is where the .deb is.
[10:49] <ikonia> Phil__: try pinging an addresss like www.google.com from your PC then try it from another see if they behave the same
[10:50] <b1n42y> psypher246: oh thats easy
[10:50] <psypher246> mmk?
[10:50] <Phil__> ikonia:how do I check the gateway isn't blocking me?
[10:50] <ikonia> Photoguy: cd /home/adams ; sudo dpkg -i wbar_1.3.3_i386.deb
[10:50] <Photoguy> ok
[10:50] <b1n42y> psypher246: the "matrix" has decided you shouldnt have access to itself
[10:50] <Photoguy> Thanks!
[10:50] <ikonia> Phil__ speak to whoever runs your gateway
[10:50] <Phil__> ikonia - browsers not an issue - its a fileserver w/ no gui
[10:50] <psypher246> b1n42y: bloody neo
[10:51] <bushd> psypher Run the firefox debug mode that'll help figure out whats wrong
[10:51] <Vinceman> why is it that new technologies always seem to be in a pioneering phase so long?
[10:51] <b1n42y> psypher246: lol, so tried konq yet
[10:51] <wiehan> ikonia: mmmh... I rebooted, and tried to mount md1 and it says /dev/md1 does not exist...
[10:51] <psypher246> yeah just did, weird can't even go to google, comes up with error on the page
[10:51] <ikonia> wiehan ooh not good
[10:51] <Phil__> ikonia: I guess I do, should I poke around with the router settings?
[10:51] <b1n42y> hmmm
[10:51] <ikonia> wiehan: what does "cat /proc/mdstat" show
[10:51] <panasonysung> If I dowload and install the kernel updates, will they take over from my current custom kernel?
[10:51] <ikonia> Phil__: well check if you've set any blacklisting
[10:51] <wiehan> ikonia: can it be bexause it does not have a filesystem yet...
[10:51] <bushd> Run it without debug -- can you get to google?
[10:52] <ikonia> Phil__: also check you have valid working name servers in /etc/resolv.conf
[10:52] <ikonia> wiehan: nah
[10:52] <Stavros> does anyone here have an eee box that can help me with something?
[10:52] <ikonia> wiehan: should still create the meta device
[10:52] <b1n42y> psypher246: sounds like you may have more than one problem, can you ping sites from terminal?
[10:52] <wiehan> ikonia: not much: Personalities.... then unused devices : <none>
[10:52] <Phil__> ikonia: yeah, the nameservers match ones used by other computers - is thata fair test?
[10:52] <Shark_7-11> hi all
[10:52] <b1n42y> psypher246: via ip
[10:52] <ikonia> Phil__: try using one with nslookup ?
[10:52] <psypher246> yeah yeah internet access is not the problem, the problem is rtandomly when i visit sites all browsers just crash
[10:52] <ikonia> wiehan: thats dissapoiting
[10:52] <Shark_7-11> does Ubuntu SE have a X11 installed?
[10:52] <ikonia> Shark_7-11 what is ubuntu SE?
[10:53] <Shark_7-11> Server Edition
[10:53] <Phil__> ikonia: what's nslookup?
[10:53] <ikonia> Shark_7-11: I'm not aware of that product
[10:53] <rww> Shark_7-11: if by SE you mean Server Edition, then no, not by default
[10:53] <wiehan> ikonia: mate, I followed your advice to the letter...
[10:53] <ikonia> Phil__: a comamand
[10:53] <b1n42y> psypher246: but you just told me konquere error cant find page
[10:53] <ikonia> wiehan: I don't doubt it
[10:53] <Phil__> ikonia: okay, I'll check it out - thanks
[10:53] <Stavros> psypher246: bad memory?
[10:53] <Shark_7-11> rww: whats the easiest to install this?
[10:53] <ikonia> wiehan: we can work it through, don't worry
[10:53] <bushd> Psypher will it crash when you visit a site always?  Say if xyz.com crashes your browser does it always do it?
[10:53] <blip99> can anyone help me with my dialup modem problem... i get no sound while connecting
[10:53] <psypher246> i have checked memory
[10:53] <Stavros> ag
[10:53] <Stavros> ah
[10:53] <sky_> on ubuntu is fixed pulse audio or still is failed ?
[10:53] <rww> Shark_7-11: do you just need X11, or do you also need Gnome?
[10:53] <psypher246> bushd: no, sometimes sites crash, sometime the same site doesn't
[10:53] <psypher246> really really random
[10:53] <Shark_7-11> rww: only X11
[10:53] <ikonia> Shark_7-11: install ubuntu desktop version
[10:54] <rww> Shark_7-11: sudo apt-get install xorg
[10:54] <wiehan> ikonia: one thing I noticed: you said: you said: edit /etc/mdadm.conf and that doesn't exist I did it at /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf... that exists... i doubt that is the probelm//
[10:54] <Shark_7-11> rww: tx
[10:54] <ikonia> wiehan Hmmmm one moment
[10:54] <psypher246> does anyone know what to do after you type fifefox -g?
[10:54] <psypher246> firefoc -g
[10:54] <psypher246> damit
[10:54] <allsystemsarego> psypher246, try this in a terminal, see if it works "wget -q -O- http://www.google.com/"
[10:54] <shiv_j> plz help fix synaptic every time I add a repo I have to do sudo update-apt-xapian-index
[10:55] <b1n42y> psypher246: go test memory via mm86
[10:55] <psypher246> b1n42y: i did that already
[10:55] <bushd> psypher246: That's odd.  Open firefox and addon that script blocking addon - cant remember the name right now.
[10:55] <psypher246> allsystemsarego: worked fine
[10:55] <rww> psypher246, bushd: noscript?
[10:55] <psypher246> i know which one
[10:55] <ShishKabab> Hi. I've just installed Ubuntu 8.10 in a virtual machine. I wanted to test my KDE4 app under Ubuntu. I've installed the libs and the app runs, but the Oxygen skin is missing. Where can I find it?
[10:55] <bushd> I guess so, I hated it and blocked it out mentally
[10:56] <Photoguy> Is this finished? ot is it still going?              (Reading database ... 150971 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace wbar 1.3.3 (using wbar_1.3.3_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement wbar ... Setting up wbar (1.3.3) ...
[10:56] <psypher246> really don't think it will make a diff but will try anything
[10:56] <psypher246> bushd: yeah dittp
[10:56] <psypher246> ditto
[10:56] <panasonysung> ok I want to keep my system up to date but how do I revert to a previous custom kernel of mine after I download headers and kernel image files
[10:56] <bushd> Well, that would boil it down to parsing scripts (Java, etc) or something core like a package causing it
[10:56] <veltsu> My problem is with my sound card in Intrepid Ibex. It does not work no matter what I try. Does anyone have any good suggestions on how to advance? (Changing back to Windows will not be helpful)
[10:56] <ikonia> wiehan: just checking something
[10:56] <psypher246> werid, instead of closing, konq comes up with an error page in the browser window\
[10:57] <wiehan> ikonia: ok bud
[10:57] <psypher246> IF ONLY I CAN TRULY RUN A DEBUG ON FIREFOX
[10:57] <sky_> veltsu: try another distro :PP
[10:57] <b1n42y> psypher246: I would be looking into konqueror, its the only browser that acts differrently, no crash and yet you cant access google
[10:57] <psypher246> sorry didn't mean to use caops
[10:57] <allsystemsarego> ShishKabab, it's called oxygen-cursor-theme
[10:57] <ikonia> wiehan no, thats the wrong file to edit
[10:57] <veltsu> sky, thank you. I have thought about that too. Also buying a new laptop might be an option
[10:57] <Photoguy> ikonia Is this finished? or is it still going?              (Reading database ... 150971 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace wbar 1.3.3 (using wbar_1.3.3_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement wbar ... Setting up wbar (1.3.3) ...
[10:57] <Vinceman> it irks me
[10:57] <ikonia> Photoguy you'll get a prompt back when it's finished
[10:57] <allsystemsarego> ShishKabab, sudo apt-get install oxygen-cursor-theme
[10:57] <bushd> Does Konq use Java, Flash and the like or is it W3 html only?
[10:58] <psypher246> b1n42y: google worked like 2 times
[10:58] <wiehan> ikonia: but that file actually existed with all the proper contents... and the one you mentioned didn't exist
[10:58] <psypher246> but yeah it didn't close, still no errors to work with
[10:58] <b1n42y> psypher246: but no crash ?
[10:58] <psypher246> so yeah if anyone knows how to debug FF
[10:58] <psypher246> yup
[10:58] <ikonia> wiehan just reading won't be a minute
[10:58] <ikonia> wiehan can you pastebin that file for me please
[10:58] <sidhrt> can anyone help with my usb hard drive problem, please?
[10:58] <bushd> If you ran the -g /usr/bin/gdb/crashy on firefox you should be able to open that file to debug FF
[10:59] <sky_> veltsu: check your PM :P
[10:59] <tiyowan> !ask | sidhrt
[10:59] <tiyowan> Oops
[10:59] <b1n42y> well its something in your system then, if its affecting opera, FF but acts differently with firefox, is your work computer the home computer but with differeeent internet connection />
[10:59] <tiyowan> sidhrt: What seems to be the problem?
[10:59] <trwww> where is the welcome screen xml configuration file?
[10:59] <b1n42y> psypher246: *konqeuror
[10:59] <sidhrt> tiyowan: its not getting detected when i connect it.
[11:00] <psypher246> b1n42y: yeah konq doesn't crash ut doens't give usefull error either
[11:00] <tiyowan> sidhrt: Okay. Please connect the external hard drive. Go to a terminal and type lsusb. Do you see your drive there?
[11:00] <b1n42y> psypher246: ya but thats the thing it gives you a clue
[11:00] <wiehan> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/d58e10cba
[11:00] <ShishKabab> I've installed it but it still can't find the oxygen style
[11:00] <psypher246> well it still proves that something other than FF is stuffed
[11:00] <b1n42y> psypher246: are we talking about just one computer or 2
[11:01] <psypher246> just one so far, too scared to run updates on my home pc, at least i can browse there
[11:01] <psypher246> also intrepid 64
[11:01] <sidhrt> tiyowan: how do i know its my drive?
[11:01] <ikonia> wiehan: ls -la /dev/md1 please
[11:01] <bushd> Psypher did this happen after you let something update?
[11:01] <ikonia> wiehan: that si the right file, ubuntu just does it differently again......
[11:02] <bushd> psypher246, or rather start after an update
[11:02] <tiyowan> sidhrt: Type lsusb and paste the output into pastebin.ubuntu.com please.
[11:02] <b1n42y> psypher246: have you looked through bootup log
[11:02] <wiehan> ikonia: ls: cannot access /dev/md1: No such file or directory
[11:02] <psypher246> well not sure, problem strated a week ago0 and i do updatyes as they come in. NEVER EVER DOING THAT AGAIN. too many times now ubuntu has done the microsoft update kill your computer thing
[11:02] <ikonia> wiehan now try /dev/md0
[11:02] <bushd> I don't see why bootup log would affect browsers
[11:02] <sidhrt> tiyowan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87725/
[11:03] <Photoguy> ikonia is this the prompt? normal starting command thing?  adams@ubuntu:~$
[11:03] <wiehan> ikonia: /dev/md0: No such file or directory
[11:03] <psypher246> yeah me neither but will check
[11:03] <ikonia> Photoguy yes
[11:03] <b1n42y> psypher246: i had a problem with no internet connection on my laptop today even though i had connection to my access point, turns out it was a cluster manager i installed to muck around with
[11:03] <Photoguy> Ok, thanks.
[11:03] <Stavros> does no one here have an eee box?
[11:03] <wiehan> ikonia: oops, sorry i know what you meant
[11:03] <spunk> Hello! This morning I ran into problems when I tried to install an update for 8.04. The update manager fails with this message: "'E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_gutsy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'" How can I resolve this?
[11:03] <psypher246> sorry Stavros, i have an eee 701
[11:03] <bushd> psypher246, Well, do you allow prerelease or unsupported updates?
[11:04] <tiyowan> sidhrt: Okay. Could you try connecting the drive to another USB port and repeating the lsusb cmd to see if there's any change?
[11:04] <Stavros> psypher246: maybe you can help me, i need to set the flash disk as the first boot device but i have no screen
[11:04] <panasonysung> does anyone know if the linux-2.6.27 kernel in the repos has the security vulnerablility that they released in Intrepid Ibex?
[11:04] <wiehan> ikonia: nope, ls: cannot access /dev/md0: No such file or directory
[11:04] <b1n42y> bushd: good ? im curious also
[11:04] <Stavros> psypher246: can you tell me the keystrokes? the bios should be the same
[11:04] <psypher246> lemlemme check
[11:04] <ikonia> wiehan ok, so lets try this
[11:04] <tiyowan> panasonysung: What security vulnerability?
[11:04] <psypher246> i have backports activated
[11:04] <sidhrt> tiyowan; no change ...
[11:04] <panasonysung> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Linux-Kernel-Vulnerability-in-Ubuntu-8-10-Update-Today-97543.shtml
[11:04] <allsystemsarego> panasonysung, link?
[11:05] <b1n42y> psypher246: at least you arent affected by yesterdays virus, hooray for linux
[11:05] <ikonia> wiehan: mdadm --scan
[11:05] <Stavros> psypher246: can i pm you?
[11:05] <psypher246> what that IE thing
[11:05] <ikonia> wiehan: sudo mdadm --scan
[11:05] <bushd> The new IE vulnerability?
[11:05] <psypher246> sure
[11:05] <b1n42y> ya
[11:05] <psypher246> stavros
[11:05] <tiyowan> sidhrt: Hmm. Do you hear a noise from your drive when you connect it? And does the light turn on?
[11:05] <bushd> I'd uncheck the backports for updating
[11:05] <wiehan> ikonia: mdadm: --scan does not set the mode, and so cannot be the first option.
[11:05] <ikonia> wiehan: sorry --detail --scan
[11:05] <sidhrt> tiyowan: yes.. i hear the sound and there's a ;light.
[11:06] <bushd> psypher246, Also, update your computer again.
[11:06] <wiehan> ikonia: mdadm: metadata format 00.90 unknown, ignored.
[11:06] <tiyowan> sidhrt: Does this external drive work in another computer?
[11:06] <ikonia> wiehan ahh
[11:06] <ikonia> wiehan: from the /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf file remove the metadata info
[11:06] <psypher246> bushd: i have, ran updates today as i saw FF updates
[11:06] <ikonia> wiehan: remove that wiehan
[11:06] <ikonia> oops
[11:06] <ikonia> wiehan: remove metadata=00.90
[11:07] <b1n42y> psypher246: i ran those also, all is well here
[11:07] <bushd> psypher246, I see those FF updates
[11:07] <sidhrt> tiyowan: it was working fine till yesterday. only today it doesnt work.and i havent checked in other computer
[11:07] <wiehan> ikonia: ok... and replace it with nothing?
[11:07] <bushd> I haven't updated yet though
[11:07] <b1n42y> sleep time GL all
[11:08] <ikonia> yup, so it will look like num-devices=2 UUID=2f5a9c35:0dc5194f:d12aac97:1c8d863e
[11:08] <tiyowan> sidhrt: Okay. Do you have another computer available nearby to check?
[11:08] <ikonia> wiehan: does that make sense
[11:08] <bushd> psypher246, I'm installing them myself though you're on a 64bit system so you can't rule out updates causing your issue prior to the new ones.
[11:08] <ikonia> wiehan: just a space between the num-devices=2 and then the uuid=blah
[11:08] <sidhrt> tiyowan: not until sunday.
[11:08] <wiehan> ikonia: i removed it and saved... now whta?
[11:09] <tiyowan> sidhrt: Do you have Windows available on this machine?
[11:09] <ikonia> wiehan: try another sudo mdadm --detail --scan
[11:09] <wiehan> ikonia: ok. did that.
[11:09] <bushd> psypher246, Have you tried searching to find others with the same bug and how it was fixed?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[11:09] <sidhrt> tiyowan: no. only ubuntu.
[11:09] <psypher246> i found one guy who posted something similar, a reinstall fixed his problem
[11:09] <wiehan> ikonia: sudo mdadm --detail --scan resulted in no output??
[11:09] <ikonia> wiehan ok thats fine
[11:09] <bushd> Are you using synaptic to deal with the uninstall?
[11:09] <ikonia> wiehan: now try a reboot, lets see if /dev/mda1 gets started
[11:10] <tiyowan> sidhrt: I can't help you, then. I'd recommend you check out the hard drive in another computer. If it doesn't work there, then I'd try using another USB cable. If it still doesn't work, then probably your drive's fried.
[11:10] <ikonia> wiehan: looks like some additional info has been added to mdadm's out put that the config file doesn't like
[11:10] <wiehan> ikonia: ok did that.. hang on. thanks.
[11:10] <InitMass> i can't start firefox as user but as root it's still possible
[11:11] <ikonia> wiehan also comment out wiehan
[11:11] <ikonia> wiehan: also comment out DEVICE /dev/hdb /dev/hdc
[11:11] <ikonia> in the config file
[11:11] <bushd> psypher246, In Synaptic Package Manager find firefox and check Mark for Complete Removal, not just uninstall.
[11:11] <ikonia> wiehan: it's only scanning those 2 devices
[11:11] <ikonia> wiehan or change it to DEVICE partitions
[11:11] <psypher246> done that already
[11:11] <psypher246> remember this problem is not FF
[11:12] <gs> Hello, I am not able to read PDF files from the net.  I tried Konqueror; Firefox and also opera. Can any one help me
[11:12] <tiyowan> psypher246: I missed your problem. Care to repeat it again?
[11:12] <gs> Hello, I am not able to read PDF files from the net. I tried Konqueror; Firefox and also opera. Can any one help me
[11:12] <bushd> psypher246, Did you run firefox -g /usr... and find the log?
[11:12] <psypher246> tiyowan: Since 2 weeks ago my browser just crashes all the time. I have tried safe mode, new profile, re-install ff, all plugins disabled, , disabled compiz, uninstall java, uninstall flash and stress tested RAM, CPU, hDD. Nothing works. FF and other browsers will still randomly crash. I have started a forum post on the problem but no resolution yet: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6391180#post6391180.  I am not the only person it seems with
[11:12] <Photoguy> Avant winodws manager, but the terminal says this:  adams@ubuntu:~$
[11:12] <Photoguy> Oops
[11:12] <psypher246> bushd: explain?
[11:13] <allsystemsarego> gs, install mozplugger and try again
[11:13] <tiyowan> gs: Use evince.
[11:13] <gs> where do I get that allsy
[11:13] <bushd> psypher246, Try running firefox -g /usr/bin/gdb/crashy
[11:13] <Photoguy> Avant winodws manager, but the terminal says this:  adams@ubuntu:~$
[11:13] <Photoguy> No!
[11:13] <bushd> psypher246, When it crashes go open up crashy
[11:13] <ikonia> Photoguy: why do you keep saying that
[11:13] <allsystemsarego> gs, sudo apt-get install mozplugger
[11:13] <psypher246> k and then?
[11:13] <bushd> psypher246, Thats your debug log
[11:13] <allsystemsarego> gs, or look for it in synaptic
[11:13] <Photoguy> Avant winodws manager, but the terminal says this:  Error: Screen isn't composited. Please run compiz (-fusion) or another compositing manager.
[11:14] <Photoguy> There, sorry!
[11:14] <tiyowan> psypher246: What version of firefox are you using? And what version of ubuntu?
[11:14] <ikonia> Photoguy: sounds like you've not got compiz enabled
[11:14] <psypher246> and then what do i do, open a new ff window i'm still on the cli
[11:14] <InitMass> bushd, i've tried to make a complete removal of firefox but even after that it's still installed
[11:14] <gs> Thanks. I will try and get back.
[11:14] <bushd> InitMass, what's you're problem?
[11:14] <wiehan> ikonia: ok.. did that... changed to DEVICE partitions (with 's' on end - plurarl)
[11:15] <ikonia>  ahh well spotted
[11:15] <ikonia> wiehan: have you rebooted ?
[11:15] <ikonia> Webspot: well spotted it should have been partitions
[11:15] <psypher246> tiyowan: intrepid and 3.0.4, could be 3.0.5 aftre this morning
[11:15] <InitMass> bushd, firefox can't start as user but only as root. i've tried to remove the firefox user dir, still not working. i then tried to make a complete removal but firefox is still there
[11:16] <wiehan> ikonia: rebooting
[11:16] <bushd> InitMass, It sounds like firefox file(s) need to be chmodded is all
[11:17] <InitMass> bushd, how?
[11:17] <imaginativeone> I have an mp3.  how do I save it as an audio cd?
[11:17] <trwww> I have a Dell E1505N that came with fiesty... I installed 8.04 from the dell provided ISO and everything seems to be mostly working.
[11:17] <trwww> Compiz must be turned on and the windows' menu bars seem to get messed up. How can I either make it work or turn off compiz?
[11:17] <psypher246> bushd: sorry after i run firefox -g etc, what do i do, i am still on the clie with rpompt (gdb)
[11:17] <tiyowan> psypher246: Um, have you tried "complete removal" from synaptic?
[11:17] <psypher246> yes
[11:18] <allsystemsarego> imaginativeone, try mp3burn
[11:18] <InitMass> tiyowan, that didn't work for me. it's still there after the removal
[11:18] <gs> It did not work.  I am still getting the dialog box. It is a PDF file. OPEN WITH and I am not able to associate any prog with it
[11:18] <imaginativeone> allsystemsarego: thanks
[11:19] <allsystemsarego> trwww, System-Prefs-Appearance-VisualEffects
[11:19] <tiyowan> InitMass: Check out what bushd wrote. You've got a permissions problem with your firefox files.
[11:19] <wiehan> ikonia: rebooted
[11:19] <ikonia> wiehan: how we looking ?
[11:19] <gs> allsystemsarego: It did not work. I am still getting the dialog box. It is a PDF file. OPEN WITH and I am not able to associate any prog with it
[11:19] <bushd> I was trying to find out where the file resided
[11:19] <InitMass> tiyowan, that still doesn't explain why i can't uninstall it
[11:20] <wiehan> ikonia: I'm too afraid to do anything without the word from you
[11:20] <allsystemsarego> gs, in FF, go to Edit-Preferences-Applications
[11:20] <ikonia> wiehan well, cat /proc/mdstat is always safe
[11:20] <bushd> InitMass, Basically you need to read man chmod and then find where the firefox file is and change it.
[11:20] <allsystemsarego> gs, locate the PDF entry and change the associated action
[11:20] <wiehan> ikonia:  md1 : active raid1 sdb1[0] sdc1[1]             LOOKS GOOD
[11:20] <ikonia> wiehan tahts more like it
[11:20] <tiyowan> InitMass: "sudo apt-gel reinstall firefox" ?
[11:20] <InitMass> root@borgvall:~# ls -o /usr/bin/firefox
[11:20] <InitMass> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 11 2008-12-18 09:34 /usr/bin/firefox -> firefox-3.0
[11:20] <InitMass> root@borgvall:~# ls -o /usr/bin/firefox-3.0
[11:20] <InitMass> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 31 2008-12-18 09:34 /usr/bin/firefox-3.0 -> ../lib/firefox-3.0
[11:20] <psypher246> bushd: i ran that commadn then  opened a new ff window cerashed, nothing happened on the debug cli
[11:20] <FloodBot3> InitMass: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:20] <DefamedPrawn> hi. I keep trying to install the flashplugin non free but I get this error:md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz The Flash plugin is NOT installed."
[11:20] <ikonia> wiehan: put a file system on it and your ready to go
[11:20] <bushd> InitMass Try using sudo apt-get remove firefox (or uninstall, I get them baxed)
[11:21] <veltsu> I tried installing the most recent alsa drivers using the script that's supposed to be really good. The installation resulted in an error while trying to compile the drivers. Anyone know what's going on?
[11:21] <bushd> psypher246, Oh, sorry - when gdb comes up type in run
[11:21] <ActionParsnip1> DefamedPrawn: how are you installing it?
[11:21] <ikonia> veltsu don't use someones script thats really good
[11:21] <wiehan> ikonia: what is your thoughts about XFS... it's solely for large multimedia files...
[11:21] <ikonia> veltsu: we can't support that
[11:21] <Monkier2> Anyone had luck getting opera to run on ubuntu?
[11:21] <InitMass> bushd, doesn't work here
[11:21] <ikonia> wiehan: I use it for my mythTV server, so I agree
[11:21] <bushd> InitMass, what does it say?
[11:21] <DefamedPrawn> ActionParsnip1 apt-get. That's the error I get. And it's not wrong either: flash isn't installed.
[11:21] <allsystemsarego> Monkier2, opera works fine
[11:21] <wiehan> ikonia: sudo mkfs.xfs /dev/md1 ? Safe?
[11:22] <riz0n> welp i am taking ebox off my server
[11:22] <ikonia> wiehan looks good to me
[11:22] <sky_> Monkier2: download it ? but Opera is not and open source i recomended FX
[11:22] <ikonia> riz0n: ok ?
[11:22] <InitMass> bushd, i can remove is but it's still there when i try to start it
[11:22] <riz0n> appears my issue was due to the static IP config
[11:22] <ActionParsnip1> DefamedPrawn: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:22] <Monkier2> closed source yes, but presto 2.2 is really great, 100% on acid3 test
[11:22] <veltsu> ikonia: a just point. I'll refrain from using really good scripts
[11:22] <bushd> What does apt-get remove say?
[11:22] <chief> hi, ibex 8.10 why is my entire repository completely empty it isn't even displaying things I've installed!
[11:22] <ikonia> chief: what repo ?
[11:23] <ikonia> chief: what are you doing to see if it's empty
[11:23] <allsystemsarego> Monkier2, check medibuntu
[11:23] <DefamedPrawn> ActionParsnip1 ok doing it now ....
[11:23] <ikonia> veltsu: contact the guy who wrote the script
[11:23] <ActionParsnip1> DefamedPrawn: if you run 64bit theres a 64bit flash plugin you can download from adobe.com and put in ~/.mozilla/plugins (you need to make the plugins folder yourself)
[11:23] <chief> ikonia, just searching the sections, status and stuff, the repo is from a New Zealand server
[11:23] <wiehan> ikonia: sorry to be such a nag but with all this progress I just wanna play it safe: mkfs.xfs: Use the -f option to force overwrite. is that fine?
[11:23] <DefamedPrawn> ActionParsnip1 same error "md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz The Flash plugin is NOT installed."
[11:23] <ikonia> wiehan no problem at all
[11:24] <DefamedPrawn> ActionParsnip1 no I don't have 64 bits. Barely have 32.
[11:24] <ikonia> wiehan: no danger -f
[11:24] <gs> allsystemsarego: change to what? I have only 2 options save file and always ask. In the other option which is the prog I have to associate that file
[11:24] <ikonia> chief: what happens if you do a sudo apt-get update ?
[11:25] <chief> ikonia, I'll check
[11:25] <allsystemsarego> gs, restart FF and try again
[11:25] <bushd> psypher246, Does your FF crash on google.com?
[11:25] <DefamedPrawn> ActionParsnip1 what does adobe-flashplugin do?
[11:25] <wiehan> ikonia: I think it worked... I need a break - you as well mate! Thank so very much...
[11:25] <allsystemsarego> gs, also, do you have evince on your system?
[11:25] <ikonia> 11:25 < wiehan> ikonia: I think it worked... I need a break - you as
[11:25] <ikonia> oops
[11:25] <ikonia> wiehan more than welcome
[11:25] <wiehan> ikonia: You are a legend... May I ask what do you do for a living?
[11:25] <DefamedPrawn> ActionParsnip1 adobe-flashplugin works. It's ok.
[11:25] <gs> allsystemsarego: What is the change I have to make.  I have only 2 options, save file; and always ask.  What is the prog which I have to assoicate in case, i choose the other action option
[11:25] <ikonia> wiehan: work with unix,
[11:25] <chief> ikonia, goes through a lot of  http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com ... Hit / Ign and then says done
[11:25] <ActionParsnip1> DefamedPrawn: dpkg -l | grep -i flash
[11:25] <bushd> lol
[11:26] <wiehan> ikonia: it seemed so... you are awesome...
[11:26] <ikonia> chief now try apt-cache search conky
[11:26] <ActionParsnip1> DefamedPrawn: uninstall ALL flash plugins
[11:26] <allsystemsarego> gs, it's called evince
[11:26] <wiehan> ikonia: I love you.
[11:26] <DefamedPrawn> ActionParsnip1 ALL ? Why ... adobe-flashplugin works.
[11:26] <ikonia> wiehan: no problem, enjoy your new disks
[11:26] <ActionParsnip1> DefamedPrawn: then head to something like http://www.rathergood.com/blode2 and it will be offered to you
[11:26] <Scare|Working> hi all
[11:26] <trwww> allsystemsarego: thats what I was looking for as far as turning it off... but is there a configuration screen that covers detailed confguration? Would I have to install Emerald?
[11:26] <chief> ikonia, no return value
[11:26] <ActionParsnip1> DefamedPrawn: then use that
[11:26] <InitMass> bushd, said that it would remove firefox
[11:27] <allsystemsarego> !ccsm | trwww
[11:27] <gs> allsystemsarego: Where do I find that.  I am new to Kubuntu and liked working on the same.  Help me
[11:27] <DefamedPrawn> ActionParsnip1 what's blode2 then?
[11:27] <ikonia> chief can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file please
[11:27] <mich123> !list
[11:27] <allsystemsarego> gs, you're on kubuntu?
[11:27] <chief> ikonia, sure
[11:27] <gs> allsystemsarego: Yes
[11:27] <bushd> InitMass, Have you installed firefox in any method besides packager/apt-get?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip1> DefamedPrawn: its a silly flash anim
[11:27] <allsystemsarego> gs, install kpdf first
[11:28] <ActionParsnip1> DefamedPrawn: with some drum n bass in the background
[11:28] <gs> allsystemsarego: I do not find that in the Adept Manager
[11:28] <karyo_peang> someone can help me?
[11:28] <DefamedPrawn> ActionParsnip1 it has too.
[11:28] <allsystemsarego> gs, adept install kpdf
[11:28] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | karyo_peang
[11:28] <warrior_du_dead> anyone knows anything about curl
[11:28] <karyo_peang> hello all
[11:28] <karyo_peang> pls
[11:29] <chief> ikonia, umm it's empty I do have a sources.list.akiradbackup thou which has some data in it
[11:29] <anvesh_agx> how to transform my ubuntu into  mac [looks only] im a complete noob plz help
[11:29] <gs> allsystemsarego: do I have to give that command in the terminal?
[11:29] <karyo_peang> hello
[11:29] <allsystemsarego> gs, yes
[11:29] <InitMass> bushd, no
[11:29] <ikonia> chief change it from sources.list.akiradbackup to sources.list
[11:29] <psypher246> bushd: got an error, but lots of errors, what do i look for?
[11:29] <ikonia> chief: then re-run apt-get update
[11:29] <InitMass> bushd, i removed everything related to firefox manually and then installed it but it doesn't seem to install anything even if it say it does
[11:29] <allsystemsarego> gs, in a root terminal
[11:29] <lianimator> What does eclipse and OOo have in common? the RBGA inversion of the titlebar. ( in compiz )
[11:29] <karyo_peang> i have trouble.how to dial up my mobile phone via blutooth
[11:29] <karyo_peang> i have trouble.how to dial up my mobile phone via blutooth
[11:30] <bushd> I don't know how Synaptic would deal with manual removal of programs but I'd assume like anything it doesn't like giving up control.
[11:30] <ActionParsnip1> InitMass: did you rename ~~/.mozilla ?
[11:30] <anvesh_agx> how to transform my ubuntu into  mac [looks only] im a complete noob plz help
[11:30] <anvesh_agx> how to transform my ubuntu into  mac [looks only] im a complete noob plz help
[11:30] <chief> ikonia, still empty
[11:30] <InitMass> ActionParsnip1, yes
[11:30] <ikonia> chief pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[11:30] <sky_> anvesh_agx: kde-look.org/gnome-look.org
[11:30] <wiehan> anvesh_agx: google mac4lin follow the instructions
[11:31] <anvesh_agx> thanks
[11:31] <bushd> Search for mozilla and firefox at all InitMass?
[11:31] <wiehan> cheers people. cheers ikonia
[11:31] <wiehan> thanks
[11:31] <gs> allsystemsarego: This is the message I get when i try this. You apparently do not have sufficient permissions to install or remove programs. You may need to run this program as user root (or through kdesudo) to gain write access.
[11:31] <ikonia> welcome
[11:31] <karyo_peang> i have trouble.how to dial up my mobile phone via blutooth.pls chief
[11:31] <sky_> hi
[11:32] <chief> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/m1848a93
[11:32] <InitMass> bushd, what do you mean?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip1> InitMass: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla_backup; sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox-3.0; sudo apt-get autoremove; sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[11:32] <bushd> InitMass, Make sure your search includes hidden files - you said you manually removed
[11:33] <bushd> InitMass, Run a search using mozilla then firefox and do so with hidden files included.
[11:33] <chief> ikonia, I'm also using AMD64 version of ubuntu
[11:33] <ikonia> chief that mirrors contents looks the same as mine
[11:34] <gs> allsystemsarego: should I use the F3 command and get the kde sudo
[11:34] <chief> ikonia, uhmm odd wonder what's wrong with synaptic
[11:34] <ikonia> chief don't think it's synaptic as apt-cache search conky is showing blank
[11:34] <Bert_2> Hi, I've made my own usplash theme thing, I've got the .so but I don't know how I'm supposed to install it, can someone explain that to me ?
[11:34] <ikonia> chief: and you %100 did "sudo apt-get update" before you search for conky and it gives no errors during or after the udpatre
[11:34] <ikonia> updat
[11:34] <chief> well it's display contents now, maybe... I had to wait a bit for it to catch up with me
[11:35] <ikonia> echief your fine then, your working
[11:35] <allsystemsarego> gs, put "sudo" in front of the command
[11:35] <instant> moi
[11:36] <allsystemsarego> gs, up arrow to recall the command, then put "sudo " in front of it
[11:36] <InitMass> ActionParsnip1, didn't solve the problem
[11:36] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87744/
[11:36] <instant> miten    täälä toimitaan olen totally newbie
[11:36] <vorsprung> hello
[11:37] <allsystemsarego> gs, but you should be able to find kpdf in the package manager
[11:37] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1 looks fine to me
[11:37] <vorsprung> I want to rebuild the kernel to turn on usb debugging
[11:37] <allsystemsarego> !kernel
[11:37] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: weird how he cant install conky
[11:37] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1 look slike he can now
[11:37] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: amazing ;)
[11:37] <InitMass> bushd, everything removed but that didn't help either
[11:38] <vorsprung> allsystemsarego: I'm trying to follow those instructions already
[11:38] <chief> ikonia, thanks for your help.. I at least know a bit more about this distro now :)
[11:38] <vorsprung> allsystemsarego: problem is that my debian/rules seem to have disappeared
[11:38] <ikonia> chief: no problem
[11:38] <psypher246> *** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.5/firefox: double free or corruption
[11:38] <psypher246> nothing in google!!!
[11:38] <psypher246> wtf|?
[11:38] <bushd> InitMass, So firefox is still running even when you've deleted everything?
[11:38] <instant> i am totally newbie with linux but now im running 8.10 in my laptop acer aspire 1350 works fine
[11:38] <ikonia> psypher246 firefox 3.0.5 ?
[11:38] <psypher246> yes
[11:38] <ikonia> psypher246: where did you get that
[11:38] <psypher246> updated today
[11:39] <gs> allsystemsarego: but I get this message in the package manager There is no matching application available.
[11:39] <psypher246> could it be glibc thats buggred?
[11:39] <ikonia> psypher246 can't see it myself
[11:39] <ActionParsnip1> psypher246: try www.ask.com
[11:39] <psypher246> i got that now when i ran from terminal, had the similar error in debug
[11:39] <ikonia> psypher246: just updating myself to look at something
[11:40] <InitMass> bushd, no it's not
[11:40] <instant> vitun mulkut kukaan ei juttele mulle
[11:40] <allsystemsarego> gs, then I'll refer you to medibuntu and acrobat reader
[11:40] <InitMass> bushd, but removing all files and reinstalling did't help
[11:40] <ActionParsnip1> psypher246: there is more than google, they use different search methods so will yield different results
[11:40] <allsystemsarego> !medibuntu | gs
[11:40] <psypher246> ikonia: thats just one line oA VERY BIG ERROR OUTPUT
[11:40] <bushd> InitMass, So firefox won't start anymore even after install?
[11:41] <ikonia> psypher246 fancy pastebinning the lot, or putting it on the web in a text file
[11:41] <allsystemsarego> gs, read about it here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[11:41] <NEOeclipse> once someone is free i need some help with ubuntu
[11:41] <gs> allsystemsarego: Do I go to the said address and down load it from there.  Is it easy for me to install that.
[11:42] <psypher246> hold on a sec, found a bug report Firefox crashes randomly: *** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.4/firefox: double free or corruption (fasttop)
[11:42] <allsystemsarego> gs, afterwards you need to install package acroread
[11:42] <psypher246> ah it's the same one!!!
[11:42] <allsystemsarego> gs, read the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[11:42] <allsystemsarego> gs, you'll have a new repository
[11:42] <InitMass> bushd, i can install firefox but no files got installed
[11:43] <allsystemsarego> gs, I need to go now
[11:43] <allsystemsarego> gs, good luck
[11:43] <bushd> InitMass, Synaptic Package Manager I assume?
[11:43] <InitMass> bushd, command line
[11:43] <gs> allsystemsarego: thanks a lot I ll try it out
[11:43] <InitMass> bushd, apt
[11:44] <riz0n> how can i kill sessions which appear in w?
[11:45] <NEOeclipse> man i cant even install ubuntu
[11:45] <vorsprung> allsystemsarego: problem is that my debian/rules seem to have disappeared.....fixed it with  make-kpkg...good job I use debian too isn't it?
[11:46] <Monkier2> at what point in the installation do you get stuck neo?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip1> NEOeclipse: did you md5 check your install media?
[11:46] <NEOeclipse> wallpaper loads up...i see the mouse, sits there for awhile(i hear cd and drive working) and then eventually i get installer crash error
[11:46] <ActionParsnip1> NEOeclipse: and verify there were no errors on the disk once it was burned
[11:46] <blame> Hello. I've installed Ub. 8.10 and the system asked me to install Nvidia drivers, after which when the computer boots turns of my monitor, can you one help? Here is the xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/1288531
[11:47] <Monkier2> its good to burn the disk as slow as possible
[11:47] <Monkier2> i use 4x write speed
[11:47] <jon_snow> good
[11:47] <psypher246> YAY this is a bug, i don't have to re-install!!!!
[11:47] <InitMass> bushd, when installing firefox-3.0 only the doc files get installed
[11:47] <NEOeclipse> i ran the disck check from the disk and it say all was good
[11:47] <ActionParsnip1> Monkier2: me too dude
[11:47] <ActionParsnip1> InitMass: try installing it via apt-build (?)
[11:48] <NEOeclipse> ok so ill burn a copy now @ 4x
[11:48] <NEOeclipse> and prayyyy i get lucky
[11:48] <Monkier2> maybe its just my drive, but whenever i set it to the default setting, it gives me all sorts of errors
[11:48] <ActionParsnip1> NEOeclipse: md5 check the iso before you burn
[11:48] <ActionParsnip1> NEOeclipse: you may have a bad image
[11:48] <Monkier2> well, what type of hardware are you putting it on neo?
[11:48] <bushd> InitMass, Do you sudo apt-get install firefox or are you specifying firefox-3.0?
[11:48] <NEOeclipse> just an old laptop of mine
[11:48] <NEOeclipse> 10Gb drive, 700mhz intel
[11:48] <NEOeclipse> something to play with
[11:48] <InitMass> bushd, i've tried bot firefox and firefox-3.0
[11:49] <_pants_> i have a super quick Q about trying to get a subinterface to go away if one of you doesn't mind
[11:49] <_pants_> i added it in /etc/network/interfaces , then didn't need it so i removed it and did a networking restart
[11:49] <_pants_> but it persists as reported by ifconfig and pinging
[11:50] <NEOeclipse> whats the md5 of the install
[11:50] <NEOeclipse> i got ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[11:50] <riz0n> _pants_ did you remove it from the auto line?
[11:50] <_pants_> yeap
[11:50] <shrini> My reliance data card is not recognized at ubuntu
[11:50] <riz0n> when you reboot the machine does the IP still remain bound?
[11:50] <shrini>  it is a new model - ADM-100c
[11:50] <_pants_> well i doubt it will
[11:50] <shrini> need help
[11:51] <_pants_> but its more of a question just for knowing in case i have to remove it in a production environment
[11:51] <victorloverain> hi all
[11:51] <bushd> InitMass, Sometimes I get things working from Application installer I can't from Synaptic -- why I don't know and really don't care.  Try Application-->Add/Remove and then search for firefox.
[11:51] <blame> Ubuntu installed nvidia drivers and they are not working? Why ask me when they cripple my computer? http://pastebin.ca/1288531
[11:52] <riz0n> That's new to me, however, normally I don't remove IP's from my network/interfaces file
[11:52] <riz0n> maybe someone else can answer that question for you
[11:52] <_pants_> i can use ifconfig to assign it a bogus address but that would look hokey
[11:52] <_pants_> alright no prob
[11:52] <_pants_> my roomie is a debian zealot but is out of town :(
[11:53] <ActionParsnip1> InitMass: if that doesnt work, i'd try an install using apt-build, it could just work
[11:53] <syberjj> guys is there any special things i must do to be able to use a printer that is connected to a windows box and shared in my network? i got some errors....
[11:54] <NEOeclipse> well md5 is correct
[11:54] <NEOeclipse> as site states
[11:54] <NEOeclipse> im gonna burn @ slower speed now
[11:54] <quizme> how do i install a mp4 player that works?
[11:54] <Monkier2> probably just a bad burn last time
[11:54] <InitMass> bushd, Cannot remove 'firefox-3.0-branding' i've got to use synaptics to remove the depending packages
[11:54] <ActionParsnip1> syberjj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter
[11:54] <quizme> totem is saying i need the H.264 codec and another one
[11:54] <riz0n> From the command line, how can i kill a session, for instance, the session which is running on pts/1
[11:54] <NEOeclipse> 4x burn now :-)
[11:54] <ActionParsnip1> NEOeclipse: with bootable disks, slower is better
[11:55] <Monkier2> i recently invested in a 100 stack of dvds, and i never use dvds, ive just had a lot of back luck with burns
[11:55] <NEOeclipse> yeah, weird tho cause i rarely have this problem
[11:55] <NEOeclipse> oh well
[11:55] <NEOeclipse> i got plenty of blanks so i dont mind
[11:55] <syberjj> ﻿ActionParsnip1 - hey again mate, i did all that, didnt work. i can post the error log if u want to, but i dont know what to learn from it myself
[11:55] <quizme> is totem the way to go ?
[11:55] <InitMass> ActionParsnip1, i'll try to download from mozilla.org
[11:56] <ActionParsnip1> syberjj: i have no idea man, i share the other way which is a breeze
[11:56] <Monkier2> question- anyone been able to activate the advanced view of the catalyst control center for nvidia graphics cards?
[11:56] <Monkier2> the card runs kind of hot at auto fan speed, it makes me nerverous
[11:56] <syberjj> ﻿ActionParsnip1 - you use ubuntu as the host? does it work fine? what kind of printer do u have?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip1> InitMass: sudo apt-get install apt-build; sudo apt-build update; sudo apt-build install firefox-3.0
[11:56] <Monkier2> why did i type nvidia
[11:56] <Monkier2> i meant ati
[11:57] <bushd> InitMass, so synaptic thinks you've still got packages around that aren't there?
[11:57] <InitMass> ActionParsnip1, does that mean i will build the firefox package?
[11:57] <_pants_> riz0n do a ps -ef |grep pts\/1 then kill the lowest process ID in the 2nd column ( kill 1234 )
[11:57] <quizme> how do i upgrade to ubuntu 8.10 if i have 8.04 now ?
[11:57] <blame> Ubuntu installed nvidia drivers and they are not working? Why ask me when they cripple my computer? http://pastebin.ca/1288531
[11:58] <NEOeclipse> damn guess my burner dont like 4x
[11:58] <_pants_> and if it wont die, kill -9 1234
[11:58] <NEOeclipse> burned @ 8x
[11:58] <NEOeclipse> burning*
[11:58] <InitMass> bushd, if i use the add/remove menu then it will try to remove the -branding package and firefox is depending on that one to i have to use synaptic to remve it
[11:58] <InitMass> bushd, i'll try to download and install from mozilla.org
[11:59] <bushd> InitMass, Remove those dep. packages then
[11:59] <Monkier2> man, the alpha version of opera is awesome
[12:00] <Monkier2> faster than google chrome
[12:00] <Monkier2> higher acid3 test result than firefox
[12:00] <riz0n> _pants_ thanks for the info
[12:00] <bushd> InitMass, then try to reinstall.  I don't know why there would be an issue but some of the things I've heard about in here are far more odd.
[12:00] <_pants_> np
[12:00] <riz0n> and that did it :)
[12:01] <_pants_> processes fork from one, so when you or someone starts a new pty, the process "tree" forks out. killing the lowest PID kills the very top, and all the children die with it
[12:01] <abarai_renji> hi, does anyone know an url for compatible joystick in ubuntu 8.10
[12:01] <bushd> abarai_renji, PS3 remote controller :D
[12:01] <riz0n> well the session was sitting at bash prompt and was idle
[12:01] <InitMass> bushd, ActionParsnip1 think i've found someting now. tried to run to run the package from mozilla.org and changed the owner to the user i'm running as on the package. still can't run as user but root is working. that was when running ./firefox . running ./firefox-bin resulted in "./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libjemalloc.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" for both user and root
[12:02] <quizme> does anybody know how to install codecs to view mp4 files on Ubuntu 8.04 ?
[12:02] <riz0n> so it only returned 2 running processes
[12:02] <_pants_> ah yeah someone musta timed out
[12:02] <riz0n> yeah, me ;)
[12:02] <_pants_> ps axjf  gives a neato tree
[12:02] <tiyowan> InitMass: Your ff problem still isn't fixed yet?
[12:02] <_pants_> lol
[12:02] <ActionParsnip1> InitMass: i'd try apt-build
[12:03] <riz0n> now i need to work on getting a good outdoor antenna for my WRT54G router, and i'll be set ;)
[12:03] <abarai_renji> bushd :)
[12:03] <_pants_> yeah i need to work on just getting a new router, mine is old and cranky
[12:03] <ays> ActionParsnip1 o/
[12:03] <riz0n> well i actually use mine in "client mode" to login to other wifi's
[12:03] <tiyowan> quizme | !multimedia
[12:04] <_pants_> heheh yeah when i was living in the bay area i didn't pay for internet for over a year
[12:04] <Shoopuf> Anyone ever set up their Ubuntu server as a single-person SVN?
[12:04] <Shoopuf> and got any tips?
[12:04] <solocommand> hey guys, anyone seen an issue with the screen saver on 8.10?
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> ays: lo
[12:04] <Flumdahl> when i try to install ubuntu from a usb-stick ... why does it complain about there is no cd in the cd drive?
[12:04] <InitMass> tiyowan, no
[12:04] <bushd> InitMass, possibly because you're running firefox sans package dependencies being met (packager takes care of that for you)
[12:05] <Flumdahl> unetbootin have i used to make my usb stick with the installation
[12:05] <hoelk> hi i need some help... i just plugged in a new soundcard.. what do i have to do that ubuntu recognizes it?
[12:05] <SpeCon> Is there any function in ubuntu or does there exist any software to get a dia presentation off my pictures on my desktop? For example on apple osx you can now have photo flashes on your desktop while your working. I mean no screensaver but just when you are working the background off your desktop changes all the time with different pictures that i selected?
[12:05] <NightDragon> When inserting an item into a linked list, having two pointers prevents having to pay attention to which of the following?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip1> solocommand: i had some in kde4.2 it wouldnt accept password to get back to desktop, switched to fluxbox, job done
[12:05] <NightDragon> i think the answer is "the sequence of operations"
[12:05] <NightDragon> you can theroretically add a node with just one pointer, but the order of things would be very important in that case
[12:05] <tiyowan> hoelk: Type lspci | grep audio and check whether it shows up, I think?
[12:06] <NightDragon> lest you dont want to lose your mem location
[12:06] <NightDragon> but if you have two pointers
[12:06] <ActionParsnip1> SpeCon: you can set your desktop wallpaper as a slideshow
[12:06] <solocommand> eh, it seems to be that it just doesn't start; no fade out or anything after the time limit.
[12:06] <NightDragon> then things are easily rewired
[12:06] <NightDragon> ....right?
[12:06] <InitMass> bushd, tiyowan ActionParsnip1 i noticed that firefox had an old process running. after killing that nothing happens when i try to start firefox as user. before i got that window at least
[12:06] <sleepy_cat> alap
[12:06] <SpeCon> ActionParsnip1: okay tnx going to try that
[12:06] <hoelk> tiyowan, it does... but i cant select it in pulseaudio
[12:06] <racquad> hi guys, I'm heaving problems configuring my local printer under ltsp 5
[12:07] <quizme> tiyowan: what do you jmean !multimedia?
[12:07] <NightDragon> oops
[12:07] <tiyowan> quizme | !codecs
[12:07] <catmando> hey all
[12:07] <ActionParsnip1> InitMass: try a reboot just to clear out anything that may be running with firefox
[12:07] <tiyowan> Okaaay.
[12:07] <obonds> Hey, I have an i7 920 - the 64bit ubuntu is named amd64
[12:07] <tiyowan> !codecs | quizme
[12:07] <obonds> Is this compatible? google just gives noise on the issue
[12:07] <Slart> obonds: yes
[12:08] <obonds> amd64 is the filename of the 64 8.10 download
[12:08] <obonds> why is it named incorrectly then?
[12:08] <_pants_> SpeCon: not that i know of. you could do some hokey looping script that changes it at random every minute but it wouldn't be fancy at all
[12:08] <tiyowan> Heh.
[12:08] <catmando> can someone recommend a tablet that has good compatibility with Linux?
[12:08] <Slart> obonds: it's just called amd64 as some kind of homage to AMD for creating the first consumer 64 bit chip or something like that
[12:08] <DefamedPrawn> hi. How do I use gksudo again?
[12:08] <solocommand> Haven't seen anything on the forum really relating to it, think switching to flux would make a difference?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip1> !hcl | catmando
[12:08] <gab3> http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~ggreen/wine.png
[12:08] <racquad> where can I find info about it? I know that I have to configure lts.conf, but I don't know how
[12:08] <nutzer> hello
[12:09] <gab3> every wine program i use - wine, cedega, crossover -- the fonts are garbled like that..
[12:09] <gab3> any ideas why?
[12:09] <ikonia> racquad: lts.conf ???
[12:09] <nutzer> just a simple question I bought a new mini laptop where OpenOffice was installed
[12:10] <ActionParsnip1> gab3: are you made of money, crossover AND edega?
[12:10] <nutzer> every time I have a crash down
[12:10] <nutzer> do I have to re-install it?
[12:10] <solocommand> haha
[12:10] <ikonia> nutzer: take it back to where you got it for support is the best idea
[12:10] <tiyowan> gab3: Are you using intrepid?
[12:10] <meganox> ActionParsnip1: crossover had a free download day recently ;)
[12:10] <ikonia> nutzer: if they have put the OS on they will know it's common issues
[12:10] <nutzer> yes I thought this would be the best
[12:11] <solocommand> wine seems to work fine on intrepid for me after clean install
[12:11] <tiyowan> gab3: Are you using intrepid, and do you have an nvidia card?
[12:11] <gab3> kubuntu 8.10
[12:11] <gab3> yes.
[12:11] <gab3> older one - geforce2mx
[12:11] <ays> ActionParsnip1 have you managed with MSMQ or you spanked your devs butts? ^^
[12:11] <gab3> with the binary driver
[12:11] <Monkier2> anyone know of a good amiga emulator thattl run on 8.10?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip1> ays: yeah i told them to look into it :)
[12:12] <zcserei> Does anyone know what's wrong with the #python channel?
[12:12] <manhhung> hello
[12:12] <tiyowan> gab3: Wait one.
[12:12] <chilli0> hey all
[12:12] <ActionParsnip1> Monkier2: UAE but you will need the Amiga kickstart rom hich is copyrighted
[12:13] <tiyowan> gab3: This was originally reported as a bug; but there seems to be a fix. Check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6360632
[12:13] <InitMass> rebooting
[12:13] <chilli0> does anyone have a dell  Studio 15 Laptop  running linux fine? how is the hardware support
[12:13] <ActionParsnip1> Monkier2: you can dump them from an amiga though. there are guides
[12:13] <gab3> you rock!
[12:13] <gab3> thanks bro
[12:13] <ActionParsnip1> Monkier2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201396
[12:13] <Monkier2> thanks
[12:14] <Monkier2> mostly I just want to play lemmings
[12:14] <tiyowan> chilli0: I've got a Dell e1705 here running Intrepid. Needed tweaking. Everything is good, except for some minor trouble with the ATI card.
[12:14] <allsystemsarego> Monkier2, uae
[12:14] <tiyowan> gab3: You're most welcome. :)
[12:14] <NEOeclipse> ok i am now trying the install again
[12:14] <allsystemsarego> Monkier2, uae - The Ubiquitous Amiga Emulator
[12:15] <sinbox> Hi, just checking my boot log as it's been slow booting recently and I can see about 90 lines that say>> New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/name-of-device-here  << except I haven't added a device, and a lot of alsa related stuff apears in there as well as oss stuff and pci stuff.  Any ideas what's gone wonky there?
[12:15] <Monkier2> aye, downloading
[12:15] <chilli0> tiyowan is the e1705 the same as studio 15?
[12:15] <tiyowan> chilli0: Um, e1705 is the model number of the laptop. It's the Inspiron series.
[12:15] <solocommand> anyone tried running beryl under intrepid?
[12:16] <Stavros> solocommand: i run compiz fusion
[12:16] <ikonia> solocommand: beryl is dead
[12:16] <ikonia> solocommand: replaced by compiz-fushion
[12:16] <ikonia> fusion
[12:16] <solocommand> ah
[12:16] <ikonia> solocommand: it's already installed on 8.10 for you
[12:17] <ActionParsnip1> beryl isnt dead
[12:17] <solocommand> are the old beryl themes compatible with fusion?
[12:17] <shikshik> i know this is off topic but, what would you guys rather have, $150,000 lump sum,  or $10,000/month of income?
[12:17] <ndo> Hey guys, is there anyone with a littlebit of knowledge about tokenbus? :)
[12:17] <ndo> !tokenbus
[12:17] <ndo> !token bus
[12:17] <ndo> !token
[12:17] <ays> beryl looks awesome
[12:17] <merlin0810> it depends - you mean 10k per month for life?
[12:18] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1: http://www.beryl-project.org/ yes it is
[12:18] <tiyowan> shikshik: Whatever my tax attorney recommends.
[12:18] <merlin0810> then it would depend on your age, I guess
[12:19] <shikshik> i guess 1-2 years guaranteed with the fact it can stop anytime?
[12:19] <chilli0> tiyowan ok
[12:19] <tiyowan> chilli0: If you'd give me the model number of your Dell, I could search the forums for you.
[12:20] <solocommand> id take teh 10k/month.
[12:20] <NEOeclipse> how long is this install supposed to take....it is just sitting there @ the screen with the wallpaper and a mouse icon, nothing else,
[12:20] <Stavros> NEOeclipse: click "install"
[12:20] <NEOeclipse> read what i just said
[12:20] <chilli0> tiyowan its just Studio 15
[12:20] <NEOeclipse> wallpaper and a mouse icon
[12:20] <NEOeclipse> nothing else
[12:20] <Stavros> reboot then
[12:20] <Stavros> and be less rude
[12:21] <whynot> I can't empty my trashcan in ubuntu.
[12:21] <solocommand> NEOeclipse: takes about 10m max for the installer to pop up
[12:21] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: im confusing it with emerald i think. i remember readinng something aout people thinkiing its dead but not
[12:21] <NEOeclipse> ok thank you solo
[12:21] <NEOeclipse> i been fighting this install for awhile
[12:21] <whynot> kernelcheck 1.1.4 and firefox update check folder, they are still there.
[12:21] <NEOeclipse> this is the 2nd cd for me now
[12:21] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1 beryl is official merged with compiz - so dead, possibly thinki9ng of emerald that is going strong
[12:21] <jilune> hello
[12:21] <whynot> However I try to delete them, they just remain.  what should I do?
[12:22] <Jeaton> i apt-get tovid, but where do I get makemenu at?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: yeah my bad
[12:22] <Jeaton> i assume it would be with tovid
[12:22] <tiyowan> chilli0: Wait one.
[12:22] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1: don't sweat it
[12:22] <quizme> tiyowan: thanks!
[12:22] <chilli0> tiyowan ok thanks
[12:23] <quizme> what's the difference between xubuntu and ubuntu ?
[12:23] <ikonia> quizme: gnome and xfce desktop
[12:23] <tiyowan> !xubuntu | quizme
[12:24] <tiyowan> chilli0: Hmm, I can't find any reports on that model being tested with Intrepid. But you may experience some problems with your headphone jack and wireless card. The wireless issue has a fix; but no luck on the headphone jack issue. Hope this helps.
[12:24] <sinbox> if I want to gt rid of the splash screen on bootup do I need to remove just "splash" from the entry or "ro quiet splash"?
[12:25] <chilli0> tiyowan ok thanks , was the ispration easy?
[12:26] <tiyowan> chilli0: Five days' of tuning. My advice: Be patient with it.
[12:26] <chilli0> tiyowan what did you have issues with?
[12:27] <anhdh> why can't i use flash in firefox 3.04 in hardy??
[12:27] <Roger_> what's that xfce desktop like
[12:27] <solocommand> what is the super button under compizconfig?
[12:28] <tiyowan> chilli0: Well. Hibernation/suspend. Annoying internal speaker beeps. A spot of wireles trouble. And a ATI video problem which is a known bug. But it was *well* worth it, I can say that. :-)
[12:29] <chilli0> tiyowan so the wireless didnt work ?
[12:29] <tiyowan> Roger_: You can install it if you're using Ubuntu. Install the xubuntu-desktop package.
[12:29] <revilodraw> i have 64bit ubuntu, and want flash cos youtube wont work. what do i do?
[12:30] <tiyowan> chilli0: Oh the wireless worked fine. The problem was that everytime I went into suspend, the connection would be lost.  Like I said, just minor annoyances and problems.
[12:31] <chilli0> ah ok
[12:31] <vegombrei> hi whats super ubuntu ??
[12:31] <chilli0> tiyowan was it easy?
[12:31] <Vinceman> in what year can we all play Warcraft II on linux vs. the windows-users?
[12:31] <NEOeclipse> well i got a feeling ubuntu wont install on my laptop
[12:31] <tiyowan> chilli0: Depends, really, on how much experience you have. I'm a computer science graduate, so that helped. :-)
[12:32] <NEOeclipse> sitting for 15 minutes and still no installer screen yet
[12:32] <Vinceman> patience
[12:32] <ActionParsnip1> Vinceman: if you connect to public servers and can run warcraft 2, right now
[12:32] <vegombrei> Vinceman: i dont think ever .. they only make games for windows and mac
[12:33] <JokeR-> hello. i have dual boot system with ubuntu 8.10 and win xp. i tried to load ubuntu but it didnt show me a login screen but a black screen where have been written "Login:"
[12:33] <ActionParsnip1> Vinceman: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=412
[12:33] <dlx> problems with your videocrad?
[12:33] <Neaai> JokeR-: did it show the graphical interface when you tried the liveCD, if you tried it ?
[12:34] <laeg> is there anyway to store my ubuntu system on a high performance drive but link some of the media folders in my home dir to a high capacity disk?
[12:34] <JokeR-> Neaai i didnt tried cuz i dont have :)
[12:34] <Neaai> JokeR-: well, the install CD is also a liveCD
[12:34] <dlx> try it ;)
 Vinceman: i dont think ever .. they only make games for windows and mac # ....
[12:34] <solocommand> laeg: you can mount your high cap disk under your home directory
[12:34] <kbrooks> vegombrei, myth.
[12:35] <JokeR-> Neaai i know.. but i have only 6.06 install cd.
[12:35] <Neaai> JokeR-: so how did you install 8.10 ?
[12:35] <Vinceman> I mean, that is the ultimate abstination, that's what it was all about! using linux and not being able to play warcraft II!
[12:35] <chilli0> tiyowan ok thanks i think i may get the ispron
[12:35] <JokeR-> Neaai install 6.06 and then upgraded
[12:35] <Vinceman> I hear TWO people say they only make games for windows and MAC
[12:36] <Vinceman> but warcraft II was the ultimate game
[12:36] <Vinceman> it was the best game ever
[12:36] <laeg> solocommand: so i'd have a dir in home that was the large disk? couldn't i make so that in my home dir whenever i clicked on videos or music etc it would link me there?
[12:36] <Vinceman> hey wait, somebody was quoting someone
[12:36] <solocommand> laeg: probably, just use those folders as the mount point for the disk
[12:36] <ActionParsnip1> Vinceman: id software make a tonne of games
[12:36] <laeg> also, you can play war2/3 on ubuntu
[12:36] <JokeR-> Neaai some solution of the problem?
[12:37] <vegombrei> kbrooks: http://www.mininova.org/search/?search=super+ubuntu
[12:37] <laeg> solocommand: ok thanks
[12:37] <Neaai> JokeR-: you have this installation as a desktop? I mean, you use the graphical and the personal part of the software, or is it any server setup ?
[12:37] <merlin0810> good evening all... I have a laptop with a nice fresh install of 8.10 on it. What would be the simplest easiest quickest way of getting a forum running locally on it?
[12:37] <JokeR-> Neaai desktop
[12:37] <kbrooks> vegombrei, What about that?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip1> merlin0810: apt-cache search forum
[12:38] <|[> hello
[12:38] <gsamsa> my vaio nr21s/s plays sound from headphones and speakers at the same time :s
[12:39] <Neaai> JokeR-: I would try to apt-get install --reinstall   the xserver-xorg* packages that you have already installed. And also the gdm package
[12:39] <merlin0810> ActionParsnip1: thanks for that - but which one out of all those pages of choices would be the easiest?
[12:39] <vegombrei> kbrooks: sorry that was for someone else ... but hey u have any idea what super ubuntu is ?
[12:39] <|[> how to fix the stuck loading on ubuntu?????????????
[12:39] <solocommand> is there a command to reload fusion? changes dont seem to be taking place automatically :/
[12:39] <ActionParsnip1> merlin0810: no idea, try a few, see which you find easiest
[12:39] <|[> HxC ]|
[12:39] <jim_p> vegombrei, another ubuntu mod. one more that promises the extra bit the default ubuntu installation lacks. i wont take, thanks
[12:39] <JokeR-> Neaai can u give me the commands because im new in linux
[12:39] <badserii> Hi. I'm running an application with Wine. Unfortunately the executable was deleted, but the application still runs. Is it possible to recover the executable from the operative memory? Thank you in advance!
[12:40] <Neaai> JokeR-: you know what xorg package you were using in the previous installation ?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip1> |[: edit menu.lst to remove splash screens so you can watch the boot, you could also try booting to root console and reading dmesg
[12:40] <jim_p> |[, what gpu are you on?
[12:40] <urchin> hi
[12:40] <ActionParsnip1> badserii: i very much doubt it
[12:40] <JokeR-> Neaai no f*ckin idea
[12:40] <vegombrei> jim_p: :)
[12:40] <gsamsa> my vaio nr21s/s plays sound from headphones and speakers at the same time :s . help me
[12:41] <badserii> ActionParsnip1:  thanks anyway.
[12:41] <kbrooks> !xrandr
[12:41] <urchin> hi
[12:41] <kbrooks> badserii, yes
[12:41] <kbrooks> badserii, amazingly
[12:41] <|[> what gpu??im newest user..i dont know about ubuntu
[12:41] <Neaai> JokeR-: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[12:41] <kbrooks> badserii, as for how...
[12:41] <ActionParsnip1> gsamsa: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=999222
[12:41] <Neaai> JokeR-: can you show here what does that return ?
[12:41] <kbrooks> badserii, pidof wine
[12:41] <kbrooks> badserii, that returns what?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip1> gsamsa: the make and model means very little, its the make / model of the soundcard according to lspci that matters
[12:42] <jim_p> |[ graphics card = gpu              and please change your name
[12:42] <vegombrei> jim_p: and its like a 1.5 gig download ....
[12:42] <vegombrei> jim_p: LOL
[12:42] <kbrooks> badserii, and try pidof wineserver as well
[12:43] <kbrooks> badserii, are you there?
[12:43] <badserii> kbrooks: one minute.
[12:43] <jim_p> vegombrei, so? make a mod of your own and make it 4gb putting every single piece of software you consider useful. that is the easy part to do
[12:43] <badserii> kbrooks: the computer is in other room
[12:43] <paez> 1280x800
[12:43] <gsamsa> Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
[12:43] <solocommand> do you have to use x64 to use more than 3g of ram?
[12:43] <jim_p> paez, no. not resolution, graphics card!
[12:43] <gsamsa> ActionParsnip1:  the link didn't help
[12:44] <Neaai> solocommand: no. As far as I know that limit is 4G
[12:44] <badserii> kbrooks: The problem solved! I had a backup. Thank you all!
[12:44] <jim_p> solocommand, in short yes, but i guess you mean for more that 4GB
[12:44] <ActionParsnip1> gsamsa: ok then you can websearch that some with respect to audio coming out of both devices
[12:44] <kbrooks> badserii, can i help though?
[12:44] <vegombrei> jim_p: nah im a noob ... im trying really hard to learn tho
[12:44] <paez> hehe...sori2..model??nvidia GeForce 7000M / nForce 610M
[12:44] <gsamsa> fuck ubuntu, i'm going back to windows!
[12:44] <Neaai> lol
[12:44] <solocommand> weird. well ive got 4g in the box, but both xp vista bsd and ubuntu x32 are seeing only 3g of it
[12:44] <tiyowan> tsk, tsk. No patience at all.
[12:45] <jim_p> solocommand, then you need to go 64 bit
[12:45] <kbrooks> badserii, supposee you have an application open with a file that you deleted. you need to do something like.
[12:45] <paez> good ubuntu, fuck to windows!
[12:45]  * solocommand sighs
[12:45] <tiyowan> !language
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> well that was pretty pathetic
[12:45] <kristian1> dumb question: in the future when i do a refresh install of ubuntu on sda1, should i unmount sdb1 from the directory i have mounted it to before, to keep my data/storage files safe? or does this have nothing to do with each other? just want to make sure i don't lose data on sdb1. then when i have installed ubuntu on sda1 i will just mount it again, and my data should be untouched.
[12:45] <Neaai> it's the education era of "I want all to be ready made for me while I take my time to jack off"
[12:45] <kbrooks> badserii, pidof <app> or ps aux | grep app
[12:45] <Slart> solocommand: it's a 32-bit thing..
[12:45] <magical> hi, if I use envy to install the nvidia driver on gutsy, will that install the newest available release from the nvidia site?
[12:46] <Slart> solocommand: you need to either use PAE (which I think is kind of slow) or go 64bit
[12:46] <badserii> kbrooks: thanks for hint. One more lesson for me!
[12:46] <Slart> magical: I think it will install the one that envy-ng was release with
[12:46] <kbrooks> badserii, now, (the pid for the latter command is the 1st number) you need to go to /proc/<pid>/
[12:46] <ActionParsnip1> magical: it'll install the newet envy driver, you will also have to upgrade the envy driver if you upgrade your kernel
[12:46] <gizmo_> hello
[12:46] <paez> ubuntu 8.10 LTS stuck when loading??how to fix it??
[12:46] <JokeR-> Neaai i need to boot linux. w8
[12:46] <jim_p> paez, cant you access the os?
[12:47] <solocommand> Slart: Thanks
[12:47] <bastid_raZor> kristian1; you wouldn't need to unmount it, your other partitions would be untouched unless you specify otherwise in the install
[12:47] <toxicvomit> the visual effects stopped working!!! help what do i do
[12:47] <tiyowan> paez: More specifics please. Where does it hang? On the splash screen?
[12:47] <magical> ActionParsnip1, is that the newest nvidia one though? I have to use envy legacy because i'm using gutsy, which is quite an old release, so i don't wanna use it if it'll install the driver that was current when envy legacy came out
[12:47] <kbrooks> badserii, then to task/<pid>/fd
[12:47] <paez> yes...it must enter any key to continue
[12:47] <kbrooks> badserii, ls -l in there
[12:47] <NEOeclipse> geez i might just have to take a nap while waiting on this install, lol
[12:47] <kristian1> bastid_raZor : ok, that's what i thought, but i had to make sure. :-) thanks! :-)
[12:47] <paez> yup..on splash screen
[12:48] <jim_p> paez, at a terminal type           lspci | grep VGA
[12:48] <casper_> does anyone know how to fix my video card? i shut ubuntu 8.10 down before proper closing down
[12:48] <tiyowan> paez: Tried booting into recovery mode?
[12:48] <kbrooks> badserii, notice thaat there are symbolic links that refer to the actual file. the trick here is that these links ARE the actual file
[12:48] <casper_> i get messages like, [ fglrx ] Reserved FB block: Unshared offset: ff7300, size: 88000
[12:48] <jim_p> casper_, what gpu is it?
[12:48] <casper_> radeon 2400hd
[12:48] <toxicvomit> it was working fine the last time, today when i started my pc i noticed that the visual effects where turned off, so i try to turn them on again, it says "Desktop effects could not be enabled"
[12:48] <paez> yup...
[12:48] <casper_> it worked just 2 days ago
[12:48] <jim_p> casper_, ati + fglrx ?
[12:48] <badserii> kbrooks: yes, I see!
[12:48] <Slart> magical: I'm not sure you should be using the old envy.. it was kind of bad.. could mess up your entire system and so on
[12:48] <kbrooks> badserii, so you can do something like cat number > /original/path/
[12:49] <odog777> whats up
[12:49] <solocommand> toxicvomit: restart? check video driver?
[12:49] <kbrooks> badserii, and you've just recovered the file from app memory!
[12:49] <odog777> is there anything going down in her?
[12:49] <toxicvomit> i tried restarting
[12:49] <odog777> here
[12:49] <toxicvomit> how do i
[12:49] <jim_p> casper_, i get similar messages in dmesg, but it does boot for me
[12:49] <casper_> jim_p, i first see xfce panel for 1 second, after that its just the backdrop and the mouse
[12:49] <toxicvomit> check video driver
[12:49] <casper_> ok
[12:49] <badserii> kbrooks: It works like magic! Thank you!!!!
[12:49] <Slart> toxicvomit: check this website.. download the compiz-check script and run it.. it might tell you what's wrong http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Check
[12:49] <paez> its the same in recovery mode..must press any key to continue
[12:49] <toxicvomit> k
[12:49] <jim_p> casper_, how did you install fglrx?
[12:50] <toxicvomit> i'll try that
[12:50] <casper_> just via the graphical interface with the 'restricted drivers' window
[12:50] <tiyowan> paez: Really dumb question. It still remains hanged when you press any key to coninue right?
[12:50] <ronj> hello
[12:50] <Piet> hi
[12:50] <casper_> it worked yesterday, then i had to shut it down jim_p
[12:50] <casper_> also
[12:50] <casper_> it might be handy to know
[12:50] <casper_> i first tried to run dosbox fullscreen
[12:50] <rww> !enter | casper_
[12:50] <casper_> while i was connected to my laptop with synergy
[12:50]  * vegombrei has successfully connected his bluetooth headphones with his desktop via a usb bluetooth dongle thing .. believe it or not its quite a bitch to configure send sound to the headphones and back to speakers .. so if anyone needs help withg that lemme know
[12:51] <paez> yup...8.04 more better than 8.10
[12:51] <rdw200169> paez: did you try ctrl+alt+f8 to see the kernel and init messages?
[12:51] <jim_p> casper_, dosbox? the msdos emulator thing?
[12:51] <odie5533> How do I find differences in a binary file?
[12:51] <aprilhare> paex: how so?
[12:51] <bastid_raZor> odie5533; you could try diff file1 file2
[12:51] <Slart> odie5533: not sure if diff will handle binary.. I think it does
[12:52] <Slart> odie5533: or you could make a hex dump with "hex" and diff that instead
[12:52] <paez> no
[12:52] <casper_> jim_p, yes. but it went fullscreen in 640x480 - i didn't see it untill i moved with my mouse to left top corner.
[12:52] <allsystemsarego> odie5533, xdelta or vbindiff
[12:52] <ronj> I'm looking for a simple mailing application to send customized mails. input = a mail, a list of {name,mail}. output= sending the mail to the mails, with a customized header like "Hello <NAME>,...". any suggestion?
[12:52] <tiyowan> Could someone take a look into paez's problem?
[12:52] <dns53> ronj sendmail
[12:52] <ronj> dns53, thanks, looking at it
[12:53] <Neaai> dns53: are you sure he needs a full fledged mta ?
[12:53] <Neaai> that's sort of overkill
[12:53] <paez> no...im do it with myself..
[12:53] <dns53> yes he does, but once setup it is what he needs
[12:53] <paez> my brother is not here
[12:53] <paez> everything he can help me
[12:54] <Neaai> dns53: ronj: then stay away from sendmail. Use any other mta (exim, postfix) but sendmail
[12:54] <ronj> indeed, I have no big needs. just publicizing a personal project to friends/colleagues
[12:54] <casper_> jim_p, that was when i did a ctrl+alt+bksp first
[12:54] <ronj> approx 500persons
[12:54] <ronj> one mail
[12:54] <jim_p> casper_, do you get to a login prompt? or everything stops at the errors?
[12:54] <paez> i love ubuntu...maybe i will back into 8.04
[12:54] <dns53> fair enough, i have not configured it but you will need a mta
[12:54] <tiyowan> paez: Can you press Alt-F1 to get into a terminal from the hung splash screen?
[12:55] <keres> for some reason i cannot open files i have downloaded from my desktop
[12:55] <yeryry> is there some nice shell way of moving/deleting/etc files based on size?
[12:55] <keres> it always says they are missing, but they really aren't
[12:55] <jim_p> keres, what type of files?
[12:55] <paez> no
[12:55] <tiyowan> keres: What type of files?
[12:55] <JasonosaJ> keres, check them in the shell
[12:55] <keres> Jasonosa: i did check them in the shell
[12:55] <tiyowan> paez: Hmm. What video card do you have?
[12:55] <keres> that's how i figured out they were messing up
[12:55] <jim_p> yeryry, you can ls them by size
[12:56] <JokeR-> Neaai it wrote me back "/etc/x11/xorg.conf/ no such file or directory
[12:56] <vegombrei> paez: how are you chatting with us ?
[12:56] <dns53> yeryry find path -msize size  -exec mv {} dest \;
[12:56] <jim_p> vegombrei, nice thought :P
[12:56] <JokeR-> I'm with ubuntu 8.10 and i cant get to login screen
[12:56] <paez> fine..hehehe...but have a problem
[12:56] <casper_> jim_p, no, i do get a gdm, but i have autologin on since it's my "PC". i don't see the msgs normally, only when i go to alt+f1 and read logs. what i do get when i login: first it seems to init nicely with xfce-panel coming up, then after a few seconds - it can't show nothing more than the backdrop and, the mouse cursor. cursor does move with my mouse but that's it.
[12:56] <keres> these files appear on my desktop, but when i try to perform an action with them it always says 'error: file does not exist'
[12:57] <Neaai> JokeR-: hmmm. In a graphical setup there has to be  a  /etc/x11/xorg.conf  as it's the X system configuration file.
[12:57] <tiyowan> keres: What type of files are they? Names?
[12:57] <yeryry> dns53: thanks.. I was expecting to need to use grep or something, but that's better
[12:57] <JokeR-> Neaai :| dont know..
[12:57] <Kate4382> Hello , how i can increase the size of the swap memory ?
[12:57] <JokeR-> this is what it wrote
[12:57] <paez> nvidia GeForce 7000M / nForce 610M
[12:57] <Slart> !swap | Kate4382
[12:57] <jim_p> casper_, is your xfce session thingy set to store sessions on logout/reboot/shutdown?
[12:57] <bastid_raZor> Neaai; JokeR-  the X is case sensitive /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:57] <keres> tiyowan: 'UrbanTerror_41_FULL.zip' and 'map-q2wdm3-b2.pak'
[12:57] <onats> yay! was able to install on my P5Q motherboard
[12:57] <Neaai> JokeR-: you're on the same machine now that you're describing  but using windows ?
[12:57] <casper_> jim_p, yes maybe
[12:57] <paez> i used the compaq f731au
[12:57] <JokeR-> Neaai yes
[12:57] <onats> video's flickering a lot though, and no HDMI sound
[12:58] <jim_p> casper_, its a small tick box in the shutdown options
[12:58] <casper_> jim_p, can i remove that option from console i'd like to try it :)
[12:58] <Neaai> JokeR-: tough. So you have to reboot twice for any checks ?
[12:58] <JokeR-> bastid_raZor :) wrote it whit small letter
[12:58] <JokeR-> Neaai f*ck yep
[12:58] <jim_p> casper_, then it tries to revert the previous session and it fails
[12:58] <allsystemsarego> keres, try deleting them from gksu nautilus
[12:58] <Neaai> JokeR-: You have to follow the capitalisation to the letter actually.   /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[12:58] <jim_p> casper_, you said you have autologin?
[12:58] <Neaai> JokeR-: exactly like that
[12:58] <casper_> jim_p, by the way there is no dosbox running.
[12:59] <keres> allsystemsarego: gksudo rm ~/Desktop/map-q2wdm3-b2.pak' ?
[12:59] <JokeR-> Neaai wrote it that way
[12:59] <jim_p> casper_, you said you have autologin?
[12:59] <JokeR-> bastid_raZor how it should be written X11 or x11
[12:59] <Neaai> JokeR-: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver                     Exactly like this right ?
[12:59] <allsystemsarego> keres, if you want CLI then sudo
[12:59] <ronj> Neaai, dns53, indeed, both sendmail and exim are far beyond my needs. actually what I need is something similar to the Outlook mailing assistant. provides you a double column table to fill, you insert customized fields in the message body, and voila. I'm not willing to install and configure a full blown MTA
[12:59] <d_mitry> in 8.10, i cannot find linux-ubuntu-modules for the kernel version i'm using (2.6.25-2-386). i need the package so that i have the sound modules. what to do?
[12:59] <JokeR-> Neaai whit small x
[12:59] <casper_> jim_p, correct. i don't see anything and i don't get menu. so can't tick the session box i can only shutdown etc via console :(
[12:59] <JokeR-> x11
[12:59] <Neaai> JokeR-: wrong there
[12:59] <jim_p> casper_, an idea banged on my head!
[12:59] <paez> when i install ubuntu tweak and disable show desktop icon..right clik on mouse not function...what damn??
[12:59] <allsystemsarego> keres, specify full path /home/keres/Desktop...
[13:00] <casper_> jim_p, tell me :D
[13:00] <jim_p> casper_, can you find some prompt?
[13:00] <JokeR-> Neaai f*ck.. i will try again
[13:00] <Neaai> lol
[13:00] <jim_p> casper_, alt+f5 anything
[13:00] <InitMass> the update of firefox today destroyed my booksmarks and i can no longer start firefox as a user. for now i don't have the time to care about being able to run firefox but my bookmarks... is there a way to restore them?
[13:00] <gizmo_> how to change ident using Xchat
[13:00] <gizmo_> im new using ubuntu
[13:00] <dns53> ronj thunderbird and evolution can do this
[13:00] <casper_> jim_p, by the way session 'saveonexit' is off (in .config/xfce4-session)
[13:00] <Neaai> JokeR-: you better try get to another machine to connect here and keep that setup in ubuntu so you can check
[13:00] <casper_> jim_p, ok i'm ready
[13:01] <jrib> InitMass: check ~/.mozilla/
[13:01] <dns53> gizmo_ type /nick new nick
[13:01] <jim_p> casper_, login with your usename and pass
[13:01] <keres> allsystemsarego: http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotii0.png
[13:01] <casper_> jim_p, by the way i'm chatting on my laptop so the chat doesn't bother me.
[13:01] <casper_> jim_p, yes done
[13:01] <jim_p> casper_, sudo nano /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[13:01] <ronj> dns53, you bet, I didn't try and just assumed it doesn't exist. thanks
[13:01] <jrib> d_mitry: why do you believe you need that package and not one by a different name?
[13:01] <omzig> can anyone help me how to change ident using Xchat irc
[13:01] <Neaai> ronj: I believe Evolution Mail can do that much the same way Outlook/OE does. With lists and all
[13:01] <jim_p> casper_, there is a setting about autologin and it has enable next to it
[13:02] <jim_p> omzig, ident = user info and the like?
[13:02] <casper_> jim_p, it's off here the file says AutomaticLoginEnable=False (????)
[13:02] <dr_willis> Under Linux you would have to install an identd server omzig  i belive...
[13:02] <jim_p> casper_, AutomaticLoginEnable=true        make it                 AutomaticLoginEnable=false
[13:03] <keres> can someone help me with this: http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotii0.png
[13:03] <dr_willis> omzig,  most irc servers dont need identd , its considered a bit useless, and a security risk
[13:03] <allsystemsarego> keres, use sudo instead of gksudo
[13:03] <keres> allsystemsarego: same result
[13:03] <jim_p> casper_, it was saying false?!
[13:03] <casper_> yes jim_p :S
[13:03] <d_mitry> jrib: because of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting#Basic%20Troubleshooting%20Steps i guess it hasn't been updated for 8.10, though.
[13:03] <NEOeclipse> ok anyone recommend a different version of ubuntu ?
[13:03] <jim_p> casper_, let me think
[13:03] <jrib> keres: then there's no file named that in your Desktop
[13:04] <NEOeclipse> since 8.10 desktop wont install
[13:04] <jrib> keres: the first command already deleted it probably
[13:04] <tiyowan> allsystemsarego: Possible ask keres to run fsck?
[13:04] <bvalek2> NEOeclipse: 8.04
[13:04] <keres> jrib: it is still on my desktop
[13:04] <ActionParsnip1> NEOeclipse: have you tried some boot options?
[13:04] <jrib> keres: pastebin: ls ~/Desktop/
[13:04] <ActionParsnip1> !bootoptions | NEOeclipse
[13:04] <allsystemsarego> keres, tiyowan, I'd say log off and back on
[13:04] <bastid_raZor> keres; when in cli and something works it doesn't give an output it returns you to the prompt, you only get a message when something doesn't do as planned/commaned
[13:04] <jim_p> casper_, but you DO have autologin?! is then gdm what you really use?
[13:04] <NEOeclipse> ActionParsnip1: ummm no havent
[13:04] <Slart> keres: can you do a ls -l ~/Desktop/
[13:04] <jim_p> casper_, it could be kdm
[13:05] <NEOeclipse> ActionParsnip1: ill check the link out
[13:05] <keres> Slart: -l?
[13:05] <InitMass> jrib, there are bookmarks in the .mozilla dir but only the "default" ones
[13:05] <Slart> keres: long display format.. more info
[13:05] <JokeR-> Neaai here again
[13:05] <jim_p> keres, partially downloaded file
[13:05] <keres> Slart: 'sudo -l ~/Desktop'??
[13:05] <casper_> jim_p, no, i installed using xubuntu btw.
[13:05] <jrib> InitMass: you checked ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default ?
[13:05] <tiyowan> keres: Run the command "ls -l ~/Desktop" and pastebin.
[13:05] <Neaai> JokeR-: and ?
[13:05] <keres> jim_p: fully downloaded. it says finished downloading on both files in firefox
[13:05] <allsystemsarego> keres I initially suggested Alt-F2 "gksu nautilus" then do it via GUI
[13:06] <InitMass> jrib, yes
[13:06] <InitMass> jrgp, only the default ones left
[13:06] <jim_p> keres, run an md5sum on it if possible
[13:06] <jrib> d_mitry: it's probably linux-restricted-modules now
[13:06] <Slart> keres: no..  "ls -l ~/Desktop/" just like that.. no sudo, no gksudo etc..
[13:06] <keres> the output for: sudo ls -l ~/Desktop: http://pastebin.com/m164c735c
[13:06] <casper_> jim_p, but the first option or so is called AutomaticLoginEnable and that is False. secondly there's AutomaticLogin and that is empty.
[13:06] <keres> Slart: does it matter with the ~ folders?
[13:06] <NEOeclipse> lol ok i have no idea what i should do for boot options
[13:07] <jrib> InitMass: then they're gone.  Use grep to search for some url you know you would have in there in the whole ~/.mozilla/ directory if you want
[13:07] <keres> should i try logging in/out
[13:07] <tiyowan> keres: Good. I'd try logging in/out.
[13:07] <Slart> keres: ~ means your home folder.. it wont work without it.. you can substitute it for /home/<yourusername>/ if you want
[13:07] <Neaai> keres: seems there's no such file indeed on your Desktop
[13:07] <jim_p> casper_, the Automaticlogin= option states the username that is supposed to autologin to
[13:07] <d_mitry> jrib: alright. thanks.
[13:07] <jim_p> casper_, for me its AutomaticLogin=jim
[13:08] <tiyowan> !pm | Sw33ty_9iR7
[13:08] <casper_> that's damn weird jim_p because i'm very sure that i DO autologin everytime i get to the greeter screen.
[13:08] <keres> ok, the files are gone.
[13:08] <keres> but why were they screwing up in the first place?
[13:08] <tiyowan> keres: Partial download?
[13:08] <jim_p> casper_, and you are sure you use gdm?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip1> !autologin
[13:08] <keres> tiyowan: full download. firefox says they are complete/
[13:08] <Cakarakoo> HI, where can I get help on how configuring a Router to set it to bridge mode? I tried in #networking but the only response I got was: "Nobody is gonna help you XD", thanks
[13:09] <jim_p> keres, is it possible to run an md5sum on the file?
[13:09] <JonathanEllis> Hi. How can I get a list of installed packages which have either java6 or openjdk in the package names? I think I need to use dpkg --get-selections > installed-software and pipe it into grep but I am not sure. I would be grateful if someone could help. Thanks
[13:09] <jim_p> keres, you may be also running out of space
[13:09] <keres> tiyowan: i also had a .deb i downloaded and installed yesterday that was deleted under re-login
[13:09] <Neaai> Cakarakoo: there's a brideutils involved I think
[13:09] <casper_> jim_p, i did really not change anything from the default install of xubuntu as far as i know. maybe i did change the theme but really that's it.
[13:09] <keres> jim_p: 60gb free.
[13:09] <keres> lmao
[13:09] <jim_p> JonathanEllis, dpkg -l | grep java
[13:09] <jrib> keres: you're being too vague
[13:09] <Neaai> cak054: s/brideutils/bridgeutils
[13:10] <allsystemsarego> JonathanD, dpkg --get-selections | egrep 'java6|openjdk'
[13:10] <tiyowan> keres: Hmm. I wouldn't worry about it, unless this keeps happening again and again.
[13:10] <keres> jrib: i have an 80gb HDD, 60gb are free
[13:10] <Stephen|Edibles> Hi there. Using Ubuntu 8.10, pretty new to linux. Until last night everything was working fine. Woke up this morning, and there's no sound. There's sound at the login screen, but when I am logged in nada. Any ideas?
[13:10] <Slart> keres: try restarting nautilus "pkill nautilus; nautilus&"
[13:10] <Slart> keres: see if the file is still there
[13:10] <jrib> keres: not about that.  About the issues you are having
[13:10] <Cakarakoo> Neaai, brideutils?
[13:10] <keres> jrib: they are really vague to me too.
[13:10] <Neaai> Cakarakoo: : s/brideutils/bridgeutils
[13:10] <jim_p> casper_, can i pm you in a sec?
[13:10] <keres> jrib: i can't really describe them well.
[13:10] <solocommand> weird, compiz-config wont let me have more than one desktop. unless i compiz --reload, but then it disables all the visual effects :/
[13:11] <Neaai> Cakarakoo: let me see exactly the name. there might be a hyphen too there
[13:11] <tiyowan> solocommand: Try compiz --replace?
[13:11] <keres> Slart: they aren't there
[13:11] <solocommand> er yeah i meant replace not reload
[13:11] <sander_m> Hello. A quick question: I have a laptop with Vista home. Can the ubunti 8.10 installer resize the Vista partition or not? I know that with 8.04 it was recommended to use Vista's own partition tool.
[13:11] <keres> Slart: neither are my files i didn't try deleting
[13:11] <tiyowan> solocommand: Do you have compiz fusion icon on your tray?
[13:11] <JonathanEllis> jim_p and allsystemsarego: Thanks
[13:12] <Neaai> Cakarakoo: you might want to install bridge-utils with:  sudo apt-get install bridge-utils
[13:12] <solocommand> tiyowan: no i dont
[13:12] <jim_p> you are welcome JonathanEllis
[13:12] <Cakarakoo> Neaai, yeah I founf bridge utils, but it doesn't seem hwat I am looking for; I have DSL Router that I want to set in bridge mode to forwar our WAN static IP to our Lynkyss router
[13:12] <keres> if it happens again, i'll come back :)
[13:12] <war10ck> hello
[13:12] <tiyowan> solocommand: I'd recommend you install and select Compiz as your windows manager from there. Wild guess, but it might fix it.
[13:12] <allsystemsarego> keres, should've gone the "gksu nautilus" way as suggested
[13:13] <tiyowan> solocommand: install the compiz-fusion package that is.
[13:13] <Neaai> Cakarakoo: the dsl router you speak about is the intended ubuntu installation ?
[13:13] <keres> allsystemsarego: gksudo nautilus and search for it?
[13:13] <JokeR-> Neaai http://i42.tinypic.com/300qjkm.jpg
[13:13] <keres> allsystemsarego: i did
[13:13] <allsystemsarego> keres, yes, and graphically navigate to it
[13:13] <JokeR-> Neaai this is what its shows me at the beggining
[13:14] <JokeR-> Neaai http://i41.tinypic.com/1412gb7.jpg and this one when i wrote what did u tell me
[13:14] <war10ck> do you chat with xchat?
[13:14] <keres> allsystemsarego: i did. nothing happened.
[13:14] <Vinceman> most people in California are sleeping now
[13:15] <war10ck> 1344 people in this #!!!
[13:15] <Neaai> JokeR-: so you use the fglrx module. You have an ati video card ?
[13:15] <Appiah> ?
[13:15] <dr_willis> war10ck,  and its a slow day
[13:15] <JokeR-> Neaai yes radeon saphire
[13:15] <omzig> i want to ask why i cant install mirc in ubuntu 8.10?
[13:15] <allsystemsarego> keres, rm is a very powerful command, you should exercise extreme caution when using it
[13:15] <Slart> omzig: ask the author.. he didn't make a linux version
[13:15] <war10ck> apt-get install mirc
[13:15] <solocommand> same deal tiyo, selecting compiz from the fusion icon wont let me use more than one row of desktops, reloading it allows it but disables all effects. :/
[13:16] <Slart> omzig: you can install it using wine if you want
[13:16] <meganox> omzig: mirc is wondows software
[13:16] <omzig> slart how?
[13:16] <allsystemsarego> keres right-clicking in nautilus and deleting is the safer way
[13:16] <tiyowan> omzig: Because the mIRC developers didn't make a linux version yet.
[13:16] <omzig> owhk..
[13:16] <war10ck> omzig : apt-get install mirc
[13:16] <Stephen|Edibles>  Hi there. Using Ubuntu 8.10, pretty new to linux. Until last night everything was working fine. Woke up this morning, and there's no sound. There's sound at the login screen, but when I am logged in nothing. Any ideas?
[13:16] <omzig> how about window live messenger?
[13:16] <war10ck> but xchat is better!
[13:16] <Slart> war10ck: what's that supposed to do?
[13:16] <omzig> apt-get install mirc
[13:16] <JokeR-> Neaai so?
[13:16] <Cakarakoo> Neaai, the DSL router is provided by our ISP provider; We have static IP, and it is working properly, however we have another router (Lynksys) that we want to set up in order to get the WAN IP (as if the first router was working in brige mode)
[13:16] <keres> allsystemsarego: i couldn't delete in nautilus. the file did not show up.
[13:16] <ronj> dns53, Neaai, I can't find this feature in Evolution or Thunderbird. Openoffice Writer has a "Mail Merge Wizard" which may be what I want. trying it.
[13:17] <Stephen|Edibles> omzig, : Why do you want all the windows programs?
[13:17] <Slart> omzig: one piece of advice.. if it has "windows" in the name it probable won't run on linux
[13:17] <war10ck> i speak german
[13:17] <war10ck> not good english
[13:17] <Slart> omzig: same goes for "microsoft"
[13:17] <meganox> omzig: pidgin allows you to chat on msn
[13:17] <omzig> owhk...
[13:17] <omzig> sorry
[13:17] <tiyowan> irssi + bitlbee. Covers everything I think.
[13:17] <ActionParsnip1> Slart: microsoft office 97 runs great in wine ;)
[13:17] <Neaai> JokeR-: I'd think you try to reinstall the  xserver-xorg-video-radeon package. You could do it with the command:   sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[13:17] <omzig> slart Xchat can i on bnc?
[13:17] <war10ck> i want to change to the IRCnet server
[13:17] <allsystemsarego> keres, when that happens again you know what to do: log of/on
[13:17] <dns53> ronj yes that is what you want
[13:18] <omzig> i mean in Xchat can run bnc?
[13:18] <Slart> ActionParsnip1: hehe..
[13:18] <Neaai> JokeR-: always, capitalisation matters
[13:18] <keres> allsystemsarego: i did log off/in, and the files dissappeared
[13:18] <Slart> omzig: bnc?
[13:18] <war10ck> wnt you the same, omzig
[13:18] <war10ck> want
[13:18] <omzig> linux cant run psybnc?
[13:18] <ActionParsnip1> !info bnc
[13:18] <JokeR-> Neaai thank u man.. i will try
[13:18] <ActionParsnip1> !find bnc
[13:18] <omzig> because in Xchat i cant find how to change ident and port..
[13:19] <war10ck> ident?
[13:19] <war10ck> alt - edit options
[13:19] <Slart> omzig: I don't think xchat comes with an ident server
[13:19] <Neaai> Cakarakoo: so summed up, you want to switch the actual router that has the public ip and is currently doilg NAT, with another dsl router that you have in bridge mode and thus get the public ip directly to the ubuntu box. Am I wrong ?
[13:19] <omzig> slart : so i cant runing my bnc account using ubuntu?
[13:19] <sinbox> war10ck, Xchat menu > Network List then select the network you want IRCnet or whatnot
[13:19] <war10ck> id
[13:20] <randomnick93485> when the system booting, who sets the locale languages? any rc.d script? somehow my machine is using posix and "dpkg-reconfigure locales" is not working (machine is still using posix). but since its boot is very odd, maybe I'm not running something important first
[13:20] <Neaai> Cakarakoo: doing*
[13:20] <war10ck> k you sinbox
[13:20] <Slart> omzig: unless you haven't noticed.. none of us here know what bnc is..
[13:20] <war10ck> thank
[13:20] <Pici> omzig: There are a few bnc packages in the repositories, check your favorite package manager.
[13:20] <tiyowan> bnc?
[13:20] <omzig> psybnc
[13:20] <war10ck> cu
[13:20] <jrib> randomnick93485: checked /etc/environment?
[13:20] <war10ck> byer
[13:20] <war10ck> bey
[13:21] <war10ck> bye
[13:21] <omzig> reporities?
[13:21]  * tiyowan sighs.
[13:21] <omzig> huh..
[13:21] <omzig> am irssi availble here?
[13:21] <Pici> !software | omzig
[13:21] <randomnick93485> jrib: it exists and has the right languages. but who reads this script?
[13:21] <ActionParsnip1> !info irssi | omzig
[13:21] <jrib> randomnick93485: grep -R /etc/environment /etc/init.d
[13:21] <Pici> omzig: Please read the first message from ubottu, regarding installing software
[13:21] <omzig> availble  irssi?
[13:22] <omzig> pici im not good in english
[13:22] <Pici> omzig: read this please: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement
[13:22] <Stephen|Edibles>  Hi there. Using Ubuntu 8.10, pretty new to linux. Until last night everything was working fine. Woke up this morning, and there's no sound. There's sound at the login screen, but when I am logged in nothing. Any ideas?
[13:22] <meganox> omzig: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/  <--good intro to uuntu
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> !irssi > omzig
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> omzig: sudo apt-get install irssi
[13:23] <Slart> Stephen|Edibles: might seem like a dumb suggestion but have you checked all the volume sliders?
[13:23] <|GaiJin|> anyone that can think of a reason why i can't enter a windows machine from my linuxbox over a network???
[13:23] <tiyowan> Stephen|Edibles: Okay. Volume's up right?
[13:23] <Stephen|Edibles> Slart: Yup, been over every slider I can find, everythings up.
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> |GaiJin|: how do you mean, "enter" ?
[13:24] <Stephen|Edibles> It was working like last night. All I have done between then and now is logout, login and add 5 booksmarks to firefox ¬_¬.
[13:24] <jrib> Stephen|Edibles: see if it happens with a fresh new user
[13:24] <Slart> |GaiJin|: "enter a windows machine"?.. you mean connect to a shared folder? login using some kind of remote desktop? check the website on it??
[13:24] <tiyowan> |GaiJin|: Please provide more details.
[13:24] <randomnick93485> jrib: keymap.sh and console-screen.sh, but nothing in my /etc/rc*.d calls them
[13:24] <omzig> owhh like that to get software
[13:24] <Slart> Stephen|Edibles: it seems like such a cheap solution but have you tried restarting?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> omzig: easiest way
[13:24] <tiyowan> Stephen|Edibles: Close firefox and test for sound?
[13:24] <|GaiJin|> when i list the shares from the hostname using smbclient, i can view them, but i am not able to see the computer in the windows network thingy gnome has
[13:24] <omzig> can i get mirc to actionparsnip?
[13:25] <Neaai> omzig: if you install WINE you could then install mirc in ubuntu
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> |GaiJin|: try typing: smb://<windows host name> in the address bar of yur file browser
[13:25] <jrib> randomnick93485: really?  Not even in /etc/rcS.d/ ?
[13:25] <omzig> how to install wine
[13:25] <tiyowan> omzig: sudo apt-get install wine
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> omzig: thats a windows program, you can run it via wine but its pointless
[13:25] <JokeR-> Neaai the same sh*t...
[13:25] <Pici> omzig: Use Applications>Add/Remove Software for user friendly way to install software.
[13:25] <Stephen|Edibles> Slart: just created a new user, will logout/login in a sec to see if its back.
[13:25] <tiyowan> omzig: It is *better* if you install xchat and use that. Much better.
[13:26] <Stephen|Edibles> Tiyowin: You mean through System->Preferences->Sound
[13:26] <randomnick93485> jrib: oops, I have just looked the rc-number-.d. thanks
[13:26] <Stephen|Edibles> *?
[13:26] <|GaiJin|> that worked... why can't i find it in the network??
[13:26] <Slart> Stephen|Edibles: if that doesn't work we'll check your pulseaudio settings and such
[13:26] <omzig> yeah i abort already
[13:26] <ejnapolinario> leticia@rotmail.com
[13:26] <tiyowan> Stephen|Edibles: Yeah,  but try Slart's idea first.
[13:26] <omzig> how to open the file we d/l in terminal?
[13:26] <Stephen|Edibles> Slart, tiyowan : Okay, brb
[13:26] <Pici> omzig: What file?
[13:26] <|GaiJin|> thanks though
[13:27] <ActionParsnip1> |GaiJin|: no idea, if you drag the share to your fave places to the left you will have easier access is
[13:27] <omzig> irssi after i get irssi ...
[13:27] <omzig> at terminal
[13:27] <JokeR-> Neaai what should i do now?
[13:27] <Pici> omzig: that command downloads and installs it.  Just type irssi to start it.
[13:28] <omzig> how to change ident using irssi?
[13:28] <sinbox> omzig you could see if you can get identd installed that ought to work with psybnc on ubuntu but you might have to build the latter
[13:28] <tiyowan> omzig: What is your native language, btw?
[13:28] <Pici> omzig: Install an ident server.
[13:28] <omzig> im malay...
[13:28] <omzig> getting fun usin ubuntu..
[13:28] <jrib> randomnick93485: note that's just where I see /etc/environment, I have no idea if that's the cause of your problem
[13:29] <Stephen|Edibles> Slart, tiyowan : Far as I can see, no sound in new user. Tried 'test' in the sound options, it claimed to be 'testing' but I heard naught, and tried a few websites but no sound.
[13:29] <Neaai> JokeR-: I usually suggest fresh install over upgrades when it comes to desktop systems. Some say if you want to upgdade from release 1 to release 3 for eg, you must go the way 1 -> 2 and then 2 -> 3   Yet, it's much easier if you bachup somewhere your /home/username/  folder (and all the other folders where you have stored your data), do a fresh install, and then restore the folder(s) again.
[13:29] <tiyowan> Stephen|Edibles: Closed firefox while you're testing?
[13:29] <omzig> pici what how to get server ident?
[13:29] <Stephen|Edibles> tiyowan, : Aye.
[13:29] <jrib> Stephen|Edibles: how did you create the new user?
[13:30] <Stephen|Edibles> jrib, : Just through adduser
[13:30] <Neaai> JokeR-: the time it takes and the ease of doing that, in most cases, surpasses the upgrade process.
[13:30] <randomnick93485> jrib: another system admin disabled rcS.d.... I have just talked to him now
[13:30] <Pici> omzig: Install an ident server. There are a few packages in the repositories, I have no experience with any of them.
[13:30] <jrib> randomnick93485: ah
[13:30] <randomnick93485> jrib: he thought it was useless
[13:30] <randomnick93485> jrib for the way we ust the machine
[13:31] <Pici> !software > omzig
[13:31] <randomnick93485> jrib: but thanks anyway. time to reboot now
[13:31] <tiyowan> omzig: http://ubuntu.com.my/ <- Check this out.
[13:31] <Slart> Stephen|Edibles: ok.. what settings are you using in system, preferences, sound? alsa? pulseaudio? auto?
[13:32] <DarkKnight> hey i used aptoncd to install packages to some systems which didnt have net connection....but the thing is that in synaptic i have to select the 153 packages i got installed so that i can update the database....is it not possible that the database gets updated on its own
[13:32] <Stephen|Edibles> Slart: Originally had them all to auto; tried changing them to ALSA but nothing happened.
[13:32] <Jeaton> where do I get makedvd, makexml, and makemenu at?
[13:33] <Stephen|Edibles> Slart: Havent tried pulseradio, whatever that may be
[13:33] <omzig> is that good for linux install wine?
[13:33] <tiyowan> Stephen|Edibles: try typing killall pulseaudio from a terminal and retesting?
[13:33] <sinbox> !my > omzig
[13:33] <Neaai> omzig: wine is something that acts as an emulator for windows programs.
[13:33] <Stephen|Edibles> tiyowan, : No process killed
[13:33] <Slart> Stephen|Edibles: pulseAUDIO.. it's an audio mixer thingy.. for playing audio from several sources at once (amongst other things)
[13:34] <Stephen|Edibles> Whoopsie, mitstyped the terminal command too then >_<
[13:34] <omzig> for you is that good?
[13:34] <tiyowan> omzig: http://ubuntu.com.my/ is the website of your local LoCo team in Malaysia. The forums there are quite active. Might be worth checking out for support. :)
[13:34] <Stephen|Edibles> Slart, tiyowan : No, still no process killed by killall pulseaudio
[13:34] <Neaai> omzig: you won't get hurt if you install it, but in general, native linux apps are recomended over windows apps under wine. Unless you have no other option or specific requirements.
[13:34] <DarkKnight> hey i used aptoncd to install packages to some systems which didnt have net connection....but the thing is that in synaptic i have to select the 153 packages i got installed so that i can update the database....is it not possible that the database gets updated on its own
[13:35] <tiyowan> Stephen|Edibles: Let me dig up the forums to see if I get something. What's your hardware?
[13:35] <axisys> wow! 51 new updates ?
[13:35] <Stephen|Edibles> tiyowan, : And at this point my mind goes utterly blank. Does ubuntu have a nice way of finding out hardware, or should I just boot back into windows?
[13:35] <remoteCTR1> anyone know how to solve this, when trying to ssh -X:  X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[13:35] <remoteCTR1> Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0
[13:36] <Feeernando> a
[13:36] <Neaai> Stephen|Edibles: lspci
[13:36] <jrib> Stephen|Edibles: ps -ef | grep pulse
[13:36] <tiyowan> Stephen|Edibles: lspci command. Check to see if it picks up your sound card.
[13:37] <suriro> how can I set AltGr key to act like Alt?
[13:37] <jrib> tiyowan: he says he has sound at gdm, so I don't think it's hardware related
[13:37] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip1: hey dude, there?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTRsup bro
[13:37] <remoteCTR1> ayeah:)
[13:38] <tiyowan> jrib: Correct. Any ideas? I found two threads on the forums, but they're unresolved.
[13:38] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip1: i got this annoying ssh -X error telling me X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[13:38] <remoteCTR1> Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0 any ideas on that?
[13:38] <Neaai> Stephen|Edibles: the easiest test to do:  add another user to your system and see if you have sound when you logon as that new user.
[13:38] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip1: x11 forwarding is set to yes in /etc/ssh/sshd_config...
[13:38] <DarkKnight> hey i used aptoncd to install packages to some systems which didnt have net connection....but the thing is that in synaptic i have to select the 153 packages i got installed so that i can update the database....is it not possible that the database gets updated on its own
[13:38] <Stephen|Edibles> tiyowan, Neaai , jrib : 05:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
[13:38] <tiyowan> Neaai: He tried that already. No go.
[13:38] <jrib> Stephen|Edibles: also, have you rebooted since this first happened and did it happen right away again?  ie no sound on login?
[13:39] <Stephen|Edibles> jrib, : Have rebooted, I get a sound as the login screen appears but no sounds once logged in
[13:39] <jrib> Stephen|Edibles: pastebin: ps -ef | grep pulse
[13:40] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTR1: /etc/ssh/ssh_config not sshd_config
[13:40] <tiyowan> Stephen|Edibles: Uh-oh. The threads I dug up relate to the Audigy card.
[13:40] <jrib> tiyowan: not really.  pulse flakes out on me sometimes and I have to kill -9 some pulse process for my user and login again, but this doesn't seem to be that
[13:40] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip1: both of them
[13:40] <Neaai> tiyowan: and I suppose he granted that new user the rights to use audio too. To what I know, those rights are automatically assigned to the first user from the installer, while the manually added ones need also those permitions set manually.
[13:40] <bluey> hi, i just got an ipod touch and it wont work bcoz it needs itunes and itunes wont install through wine........ can anyone help me with this problem ?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTR1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119256&page=2
[13:41] <jrib> Neaai: we didn't check that
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTR1: could try: sudo rm ~/Xautority*
[13:41] <tiyowan> Stephen|Edibles: Wait one. Searching some more on the forums.
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTR1: log off, then log in, then try ssh to the box
[13:42] <jrib> bluey: yes, you are correct.  What you can do is jailbreak it and use ssh.  Otherwise, apple put a new hash on the library file that hasn't been reverse engineered yet, so software on linux can't work with your library.  Tell apple you don't like this.
[13:42] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTR1: all this on the box you are connecting to
[13:42] <ASULutzy> remoteCTR did you figure out your problem? You may have to edit /etc/ssh/ssh_config, if that's set correctly, do what Action said :)
[13:42] <Neaai> jrib: Could he see if he has that new user in the audio group? I'm sure his first user is part of that group already but I doubt this is true for his second, later added, user.
[13:42] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip1: already changed that .Xauthority permissions but havent tried to completely remove it yet, think that'll have an impact?
[13:42] <jrib> ActionParsnip1: you mean ~/.Xauthority ?
[13:42] <jrib> Neaai: go for it
[13:42] <bluey> jrib can u send me some links where i can read up on all this?
[13:43] <ASULutzy> remoteCTR1: Yea, you can rm it, (this on the server)
[13:43] <tiyowan> Forums are showing kernel bug reports for that sound card.
[13:43] <jrib> bluey: on jailbreaking you mean?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip1> jrib: it'll be globbed in :)
[13:43] <bluey> yes
[13:43] <jrib> ActionParsnip1: not the way you typed it :)
[13:43] <Stephen|Edibles> tiyowan, : Np, thankee. Weird though - I just found the command aplay -l and ran it. It doesnt list the SB.
[13:43] <DarkKnight> hey i used aptoncd to install packages to some systems which didnt have net connection....but the thing is that in synaptic i have to select the 153 packages i got installed so that i can update the database....is it not possible that the database gets updated on its own
[13:43] <ActionParsnip1> jrib: gah
[13:43] <remoteCTR1> ASULutzy: well basically the one on the server is the same one as the local one as i have mounted the directora via autofs on the server
[13:43] <bluey> will it break my ipod .......... its brand new :(
[13:44] <remoteCTR1> jrib: never mind i understood him;)
[13:44] <tiyowan> Stephen|Edibles: I'm with you, buddy, running some searches. Give me a couple of minutes.
[13:44] <Neaai> Stephen|Edibles: you login as the first user, go to users and groups management and add the second user to the "audio" group. Logout and then login as the second user, and see what you have, if you do have sound or not. If your sound works in gdm, it's not hardware/driver trouble. That trouble would NOT give you any sound at all.
[13:44] <bluey> i have to go........ i will be back later
[13:45] <bizkwet> hi, what ide can you recommend in programming in gtk? i'm fairly new here. kindly go easy on me.. hehehe thanks!
[13:45] <remoteCTR1> humm ... that maybe the problem ActionParsnip1, that i am using the sam .Xauthority on both, the server and the client?
[13:45] <jrib> !away > bluey[away]
[13:45] <jrib> bluey[away]: you can read about jailbreaking at http://blog.iphone-dev.org/ .  You should do some research on it before you make the decision
[13:45] <ASULutzy> bizkwet: mono maybe?
[13:46] <Stephen|Edibles> Neaai, : Sorry?
[13:46] <bizkwet> or is it also good to just code in some text editor and compile it by invoking the command in the terminal? hmm.. hehe
[13:46] <onats> what's the most secure way i can remote into my ubuntu desktop from outside?
[13:46] <ASULutzy> bizkwet: On big projects you'll of course want an IDE
[13:47] <bizkwet> i see.. then mono it is.. thanks :)
[13:47] <JulioNeto> If I remove Network Manager I'll lose my internet connection?
[13:47] <onats> !remote
[13:47] <ASULutzy> onats: ssh using public/private key
[13:47] <jrib> bizkwet: erm, text editor is fine.  It's completely up to you
[13:47] <remoteCTR1> !away > remoteCTR1
[13:47] <onats> ASULutzy, i want to get a desktop
[13:47] <ASULutzy> onats: ssh -CX
[13:47] <tiyowan> Stephen|Edibles: I'm still digging. Follow Neaai's instructions and see if that works.
[13:47] <Neaai> Stephen|Edibles: that's in bare lines what you have to do to check properly the sound for your system. To be sure, even try to add another 3rd user and use that, to be sure you start from defaults.
[13:48] <ASULutzy> onats: If you want the full desktop, VNC
[13:48] <onats> ASULutzy, which vnc in particular?
[13:48] <ASULutzy> onats: I would recommend getting used to the CLI using ssh, there really isn't much you can't do from there
[13:48] <onats> ASULutzy, yes, i can ssh already, but i just want some desktop access
[13:49] <tiyowan> Neaai: Could you check this out? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-261940.html
[13:49] <onats> vnc4server?
[13:49] <ASULutzy> onats: Ok, well, yea, there's always VNC, just want to make sure you know about ssh -CX
[13:49] <ASULutzy> onats: that would forward the X output from the server, so if you do ssh -CX the.server.ip.address and then do like firefox
[13:49] <ASULutzy> it'll forward the GUI stuff from the server to your client
[13:49] <onats> ASULutzy, what's the CX flag stand for?
[13:50] <ASULutzy> onats: X is for forward X output, C is for compress it before you send it
[13:50] <ASULutzy> onats: man ssh
[13:50] <ASULutzy> afk
[13:51] <Vinceman> do I have intrepid?
[13:51] <Vinceman> 2.6.27-9-generic = intrepid?!
[13:51] <Stephen|Edibles> Neaai, : Can I just switch user or should I properly logout/login
[13:51] <bazhang> !version > Vinceman
[13:51] <Neaai> tiyowan: so that can be something with the driver of the audio card? It seems like that from the post you showed me.
[13:52] <Neaai> Stephen|Edibles: switching should do too.
[13:52] <tiyowan> Vinceman: Type lsb_release -a to find out.
[13:53] <tiyowan> Neaai: I'm finding a lot of unresolved threads on that particular card on the 'net. From different distros as well. I'm out of ideas.
[13:53] <tiyowan> Neaai: But what you wrote it correct, if the login sounds play, then it shouldn't be a hardware problem.
[13:53] <Stephen|Edibles> Neaai, tiyowan : Okay, I can confirm that what Neaai told me to do works. My poor ears.
[13:53] <Stephen|Edibles> (My headphones were turned up full.)
[13:54] <Stephen|Edibles> Okay, so do I just add my normal user to audio now, logout/login and see if that works?
[13:54] <Neaai> Stephen|Edibles: and what when you logout again from the new users, and login again as the original first user ?
[13:54] <tiyowan> Stephen|Edibles: Hey, that's great!
[13:54] <Stephen|Edibles> Neaai, tiyowan : Note the original user still has no sound!
[13:55] <Neaai> Stephen|Edibles: normally, the first user must be already part of the audio group. The installer should have taken care of that
[13:55] <Neaai> Stephen|Edibles: yet nothing stops you from confirming this.
[13:55] <Stephen|Edibles> Neaai, : I wasnt. I had to create the 'audio' group. Let me try adding my normal user to it
[13:55] <Neaai> odd
[13:56] <Stephen|Edibles> logging out/in again now
[13:57] <tiyowan> Neaai: I just checked. I'm running intrepid on this box and I don't have an audio group either.
[13:58] <giganto> hi all, does anyone here has the bottom right corner to pop up when someone logs in and out of pidgin??
[13:58] <Oxidize> Anyone know how to get the flashing speaker icon off the desktop ?
[13:59] <Neaai> tiyowan: what? I just did     cat /etc/group | grep audio    to a friend's box (remotely) and I got a reply   "audio:x:29:pulse"
[13:59] <astor-brazil> anyone knows how to upgrade from ext3 to ext4 without format the partion ?
[14:00] <adam7> Neaai: I have the same thing, audio:x:29:pulse when I did it
[14:00] <Neaai> I'd say that indicates that there is an "audio" group then, no ?
[14:01] <buttercups> giganto, install pidgin-libnotify
[14:01] <tiyowan> Neaai: You're right again. Sorry about that. :)
[14:02] <giganto> buttercups, from apts??
[14:02] <Vinceman> are these screenshots http://appdb.winehq.org/screenshots.php?iAppId=412&iVersionId= made from a linux run computer running wine?
[14:03] <Neaai> tiyowan: but it's true. The option "use audio devices" is grayed out too and unckecked in my friend's box. He uses sound fine though. Hmmm.
[14:03] <buttercups> giganto, sudo apt-get install pidgin-libnotify
[14:03] <Neaai> unchecked*
[14:03] <giganto> buttercups, ah thanks a lot
[14:03] <gigi> ciao a tutti
[14:03] <JulioNeto> I wanna use my 3G modem on Hardy, what should I do?
[14:03] <elijah_frost> gentlemen, does <apt-get install app_name> install application's latest version?
[14:03] <Jeaton> how do I install makexml, makedvd, and makemenu?
[14:04] <giganto> does anyone know how midnight commander works? I installed via the package manager, but I can't seem to find it
[14:04] <tiyowan> Neaai: Same here. The GUI's showing Use audio devices greyed out. But the CLI cmd returns pulse for me.
[14:04] <Jeaton> i believe they were bundled with tovid, but they didnt install when i installed it
[14:04] <kinnaz_> http://pics.nase-bohren.de/nerd.jpg
[14:04] <bazhang> elijah_frost, no
[14:04] <jrib> elijah_frost: by default, it will install the latest version available in the repositories
[14:04] <jrib> !away > qb|away
[14:04] <elijah_frost> jrib: I see. Thank ya very much
[14:05] <jrib> kinnaz_: please stay on-topic
[14:05] <Neaai> tiyowan: it could be something with the "pulseaudio" settings as of in a per-user-basis. That means that while the system is ok, how the situation is depends how each user configures their own part of the settings. It's the only explanation why user1 lacks sound while user2 and user3 have sound ok.
[14:05] <bazhang> kinnaz_, dont post spam here
[14:05] <Stephen|Edibles> Well, I think I have some idea of whats going on. I forgot to mention (and I apologise to those who have helped me for not mentioning it), but this is a wubi installation of Ubuntu, and I've got a nigglign feeling it didnt set up the user right.
[14:05] <kinnaz_> maybe someone else ?
[14:05] <kinnaz_> say im evil
[14:05] <kinnaz_> is there some offtopic chan for ubuntu ?
[14:05] <jrib> kinnaz_: #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:05] <Pici> kinnaz_: #ubuntu-offtopic oddly enough
[14:05] <kinnaz_> tnx
[14:05] <bazhang> !ot > kinnaz_
[14:06] <tiyowan> Neaai: This is good information to know.
[14:07] <ribo> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
[14:07] <ribo> wat?
[14:07] <Stephen|Edibles> Though sound still isnt working on the main user, it does work on the new account I created. So, I'm considering creating a new proper account and just switching over.
[14:07] <PriceChild> ribo: sudo apt-get update, and try again
[14:07] <bazhang> ribo, feisty is end of life
[14:07] <|ntegra|> hiya
[14:07] <PriceChild> ribo: whoops, misread, what he said.
[14:08] <ribo> oic
[14:08] <|ntegra|> biya
[14:08] <tiyowan> Stephen|Edibles: I think Neaai's pointed you on the right track. :) If I were you, I'd do the same thing.
[14:08] <ActionParsnip1> ribo: maybe the server is down
[14:08] <Pici> ActionParsnip1: feisty is end of life.
[14:08] <JulioNeto> well... I have added the repository, installed the updates, reboot the system, nut nothing happen, the network manager applet isn't on the panel anymore
[14:08] <tiyowan> ribo: Upgrade your version please. Feisty isn't supported anymore.
[14:09] <JulioNeto> Is there any idea?
[14:09] <naiv> hi
[14:09] <ActionParsnip1> Pici: oh yeah didnt notice feisty, good eyes
[14:09] <ribo> wait. wtf. I'm running ibex
[14:09] <Neaai> tiyowan: Stephen|Edibles:  a dirty way to fix-and-go would be to have all contents of user1 (the no sound one) transfered to user2 (the ok sound one), chown these contents to be owned from user2, and happily use user2 instead of user1
[14:09] <ribo> how did feisty sources get in ther
[14:09] <ActionParsnip1> ribo: that link you gave says feisty
[14:09] <bazhang> ribo, then edit your sources.list
[14:10] <ActionParsnip1> ribo: change the word feisty to intrepid
[14:10] <bazhang> ribo, put a # in front of that one
[14:10] <jim_p> guys... you can call me a noob after that but... is there a "Go" button in firefox? firefox 3
[14:10] <tiyowan> ribo: Your sources.list is pointing to feisty repos?
[14:10] <jim_p> *in your firefox
[14:10] <naiv> i tried to install xubuntu 7.10 alternate powerpc, when i reboot after install, i see yaboot with 2 choices : Linux and old, and then i see a splash with ubuntu but the imac do nothing, do you know why ? what can i do plz ?
[14:10] <PriceChild> jim_p: yes, right hand side in the address bar.
[14:11] <tiyowan> Neaai: *agree*
[14:11] <ribo> tiyowan: yes, it seems they all are now for some reason
[14:11] <ActionParsnip1> jim_p: try editting your toolbars, there may be a go button, you can just press enter though
[14:11] <Jeaton> where do I get makemenu at?
[14:11] <tiyowan> ribo: If you want I could pastbin my file for you to use?
[14:11] <ribo> oh
[14:11] <ribo> wat
[14:11] <ribo> I'm an idiot
[14:11] <ribo> ssh'd into an old server
[14:11] <jim_p> PriceChild, i dont have it! i have the address bar and the search input next to it
[14:11] <ribo> goddamit
[14:12] <ribo>  /facelapm
[14:12] <jim_p> ActionParsnip1, and i cant find it in editing
[14:12] <Neaai> tiyowan: Stephen|Edibles: this way, you would use the files ok, and also buy yourself as much time as you like to investigate the sound. When that is found out, the data/personal files can be easily re-moved again to be of user1
[14:12] <bazhang> ribo please keep it family friendly here
[14:12] <PriceChild> jim_p: write something random in the address bar, and the favourite icon will change to the go button
[14:12] <knut_> somehow gnome opens an extra window for every application i am using. there are three button on it: Add Remove Destroy. Can sb please help me removing these auotmatically started windows?
[14:13] <ActionParsnip1> jim_p: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6933
[14:13] <naiv> after yaboot, what does display the ubuntu splash ? yaboot or something else ?
[14:13] <Stephen|Edibles> Neaai, : Aye, though there's very little to move atm. I might keep this login just to investigate the no sound though, ta.
[14:13] <jim_p> ActionParsnip1, PriceChild give me a sec to look
[14:14] <tiyowan> Neaai: Just curious. If you copy the contents of one user's home dir to another user, then chown it; everything'll work? The bash.rc files and such?
[14:14] <bahadunn> after updates yesterday does anyones network manager say you have no connection?
[14:14] <tiyowan> bahadunn: Running Intrepid. Everything's fine here.
[14:15] <bazhang> bahadunn, wired or wireless
[14:15] <kristian1> bahadunn : not for me.
[14:15] <jim_p> ActionParsnip1, PriceChild true the go button is there!
[14:15] <bahadunn> wired
[14:15] <Neaai> Stephen|Edibles: indeed. For a personal system, a desktop system, that only you use, the username is a minor issue. I could happily use neaai1 instead of neaai for example and not worry about the extra "1"  :p
[14:15] <adam7> tiyowan: in theory, yes.
[14:15] <Neaai> tiyowan: yes. all of it.
[14:15] <bazhang> bahadunn, what does sudo dhclient eth0 return
[14:15] <naivo> after yaboot, what does display the ubuntu splash ? yaboot or something else ?
[14:15] <tiyowan> bahadunn: Can you ping your router?
[14:15] <bahadunn> I have two machines and both after updates yesterday the network manager says no connection
[14:15] <bahadunn> tiyowan: yes the network works
[14:15] <Neaai> tiyowan: as long as there's no hardcoded refference to the exact username
[14:16] <adam7> bahadunn: can you ping 208.67.220.220?
[14:16] <bahadunn> tiyowan: its just network manager says no connection and my firefox starts up in work offline mode
[14:16] <tiyowan> Neaai, adam7: Thanks guys.
[14:16] <bahadunn> adam7: yes
[14:16] <bahadunn> adam7: I actually have networking
[14:16] <tiyowan> bahadunn: Ok. So when you put into online mode...you can browse right?
[14:16] <bahadunn> tiyowan: right
[14:16] <adam7> bahadunn: uncheck the Offline mode in the Firefox File menu
[14:16] <bahadunn> but its annoying to have to go file > work offline all the time
[14:17] <bahadunn> adam7: yes I know
[14:17] <adam7> bahadunn: oh. When you say "networking isn't working" that implies that you can't access the network, not that NM thinks you're offline ;)
[14:17] <tiyowan> bahadunn: That's a pretty strange problem. :/
[14:17] <bahadunn> adam7: I said NETWORK MANAGER says there is no connection
[14:17] <bahadunn> adam7: not that networking is not working
[14:18] <adam7> bahadunn: ah, sorry, I misinterpred your question
[14:18] <jim_p> bahadunn, remove network manager. the word "useless" is too small to describe it. install wicd
[14:19] <Neaai> bahadunn: the debian guys say that network manager is broken and very often it behaves voodoo-ish. It might be the case for ubuntu as well, idk.
[14:19] <mav> anyone know what happened to kworldclock on Intrepid? I read that it was folded into kde-toys, but this package doesnt seem to have it
[14:21] <bahadunn> jim_p: ah okay
[14:22] <bahadunn> jim_p: just aptitude purge network-manager or whatever?
[14:22] <jim_p> bahadunn, are you on wired only?
[14:22] <tiyowan> bahadunn: I'd run with jim_p's suggestion. I'm just keeping network-manager because it doesn't annoy me as much. But it does act up with my wifi connections.
[14:22] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone give me a solution which i posted at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014856&highlight=aptoncd+update+database
[14:23] <jim_p> bahadunn, your answer judges my anser to the 2st question
[14:23] <jim_p> *1st
[14:23] <adam7> DarkKnight: did you add the CD as a repo in synaptic?
[14:23] <Vinceman> all new applications are good, they have been thought about and they are in perfect working order
[14:24] <soundari> Hi
[14:24] <bahadunn> jim_p: yes wired only
[14:24] <ed0n0n> what does the Ubuntu Alternate CD Image do?
[14:25] <Anarh> hi, how can i recover files which have been lost from the ext3 partition
[14:25] <bahadunn> jim_p: is wicd a replacement for network manager?
[14:25] <adam7> ed0n0n: gives you a command line (text based) installer
[14:25] <Anarh> !recover
[14:25] <adam7> bahadunn: it is
[14:25] <dtansey> suggestions for network analysis? I would like to know who (IP) is using bandwidth on my network in a given capture period.
[14:25] <jim_p> bahadunn, then you dont need a network manager or wicd! gnome network thing can handle wired perfectly
[14:25] <hovse> #ubuntu-pl
[14:25] <bahadunn> jim_p: I use manual network config in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:25] <ed0n0n> adam7: would it be helpfull for installing a sistem with no network and 256 of RAM?
[14:25] <bahadunn> jim_p: been using debian too long I guess
[14:26] <adam7> ed0n0n: it would be faster, but the LiveCD should work fine on that, though
[14:26] <GNUtoo> hello is the JMicron 363 chipset(sata) supported by the last ubuntu?
[14:26] <soundari> try xubuntu. will  work on 256mb ram
[14:26] <jim_p> bahadunn, well since you already use the ultimate solution of network configuration, remove network manager! sudo apt-get autoremove network-manager
[14:27] <bahadunn> jim_p: okay
[14:27] <jim_p> bahadunn, and you fell from debian to ubuntu?
[14:27] <bahadunn> jim_p: no
[14:27] <jim_p> then?
[14:27] <soundari> are you looking for linux terminal project
[14:27] <bahadunn> jim_p: still use debian
[14:27] <ed0n0n> adam7: I tried to but CD might be scratched, and have burned another. Last time stoped 54%, I hope this time it will finish and install Grub succesfully-
[14:27]  * tiyowan grins.
[14:27] <Stephen|Edibles> Okay, this is confusing me to hell and back. At a terminal : "sudo visudo sudoers". This should let me edit sudoers... but all it does is spit back the usage line.
[14:27] <greencookie> how do i get kdm to fire up automatically on boot? also how do I start kdm from command-line without using 'sudo'?
[14:27] <bahadunn> jim_p: I like ubuntu cause it gives me everything I want in a nice package for a desktop workstation
[14:27] <adam7> Stephen|Edibles: try just visudo /etc/sudoers
[14:28] <bahadunn> jim_p: I use debian everywhere else and freebsd
[14:28] <epcom> hi
[14:28] <onats> i love my quad core!:D
[14:28] <onats> suweet!
[14:28] <matic> anyone who knows of a proxy-server script to clear cache automatically
[14:28] <Stephen|Edibles> adam7: Nope, spits back the usage line
[14:28] <greencookie> onats: i want one too :)
[14:28] <ed0n0n> is hardy 8.04 or 8.04.1 better for using with old computers?
[14:28] <adam7> Stephen|Edibles: sorry, it's just sudo visudo (man visudo for more questions :)
[14:28] <rdz> giganto, start mc: open a terminal and enter 'mc'
[14:28] <jim_p> bahadunn, i hate that package! i want to put every app and configuration by myself and not let some stupid mechanism (eg network manager) take over
[14:29] <soundari> search in google you will get proxy server cache clear script
[14:29] <bahadunn> jim_p: yeah I know what you mean
[14:29] <greencookie> anyone know how to start kdm from command line? was it something like 'init.d/kdm start'?
[14:29] <adam7> ed0n0n: neither is better, it depends what you want
[14:29] <Stephen|Edibles> adam7: Ah, ta.
[14:29] <matic> ed0n0n, use hardy 8.04, it a bit strong
[14:29] <adam7> greencookie: /etc/init.d/kdm start
[14:29] <greencookie> adam7: gracias!
[14:29] <scientes> is there any way to see why my computer just crashed?
[14:29] <Anarh> hi i really need help, i was working with my usb drive and computer crashed and i lost tons of files
[14:29] <tiyowan> scientes: System logs.
[14:29] <jim_p> scientes, dmesg | tail               maybe?
[14:30] <adam7> scientes: /var/log/kernel.log
[14:30] <ed0n0n> adam7, matic : I will use 8.04 and else will try with Xubuntu, Thank you :)
[14:30] <greencookie> adam7: it still wants root to run it..
[14:30] <tiyowan> scientes: System -> Admin. -> System Log
[14:30] <adam7> greencookie: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart ?
[14:30] <scientes> i understand system logs
[14:30] <greencookie> adam7: i don't want to log in as root..ill try that however since i have no choice rite now
[14:31] <adam7> greencookie: you can't start kdm unless you are root
[14:31] <adam7> greencookie: if you use sudo you don't have to login as root
[14:31] <soundari> you can use ubuntu rescue remix to get your files. one more way is using live cd
[14:31] <scientes> eyah theres nothing
[14:31] <tiyowan> Shouldn't you use gksudo to start kdm?
[14:31] <scientes> it just hard froze
[14:31] <adam7> tiyowan: no, because kdm is the display manager
[14:31] <scientes> which reading wikipedia
[14:31] <tiyowan> adam7: Ah. :)
[14:31] <adam7> tiyowan: gksudo opens a gtk dialog box which won't be able to run if you don't have a display :P
[14:32] <greencookie> adam7: that worked. thank you :)
[14:32] <eraggo> good evening. How i can remove pop-up that comes when amarok changes song?
[14:33] <jim_p> eraggo, in amaroc settings look for OSD
[14:33] <adam7> eraggo: haven't used amarok in a while, but Settings -> OSD
[14:33] <wiijii> Afternoon all, has anyone used PSAD at all?
[14:33] <wiijii> I could do with a quick hand if possible
[14:34] <eraggo> jim_p and adam7.. Thanks; that worked
[14:34] <jim_p> eraggo, you are welcome
[14:34] <eraggo> this is reason that i love open-source community :)
[14:35] <jim_p> eraggo, fast responces?
[14:35] <eraggo> yerr..
[14:35] <eraggo> how long that should spend for microsoft?
[14:35] <bahadunn> jim_p: ubuntu is pretty nice besides network-manager though
[14:35] <eraggo> solution that won't work and week after problem
[14:36] <jim_p> eraggo, well dont ask at ms, ask at people in general (forums, irc)
[14:36] <wiijii> Can someone give me some help with iptables/PSAD and logging of unsolicited icmp packets please?
[14:36] <eraggo> jim_p you screw joke :S
[14:36] <eraggo> screwed*
[14:37] <wiijii> Most of it is fine but IPtables doesn't seem to be logging INVALID packets, although it is dropping them
[14:37] <jim_p> eraggo, i am terribly sorry :'(
[14:37] <eraggo> :
[14:37] <me> hi
[14:37] <eraggo> :D*
[14:37] <bahadunn> wiijii: use shorewall
[14:37] <wiijii> no thanks
[14:37] <me> how are u all
[14:37] <wiijii> The setup I have is working fine apart from logging. Presumably a mistake on my part somewhere
[14:37] <jim_p> me, so and so
[14:38] <verflixt1234> hello im stuck in the ubuntu installation
[14:38] <bahadunn> wiijii: okay well iptables makes my head hurt
[14:38] <eraggo> verflixt1234: how?
[14:38] <bazhang> verflixt1234, which part
[14:38] <verflixt1234> i dont see and partitions in the partition manager
[14:38] <verflixt1234> any
[14:38] <wiijii> I'm just learning about it, it's pretty intuitive really
[14:38] <verflixt1234> but cat /proc/partitions works
[14:38] <wiijii> Although... maybe not intuitive enough, hence my problem, heh
[14:38] <eraggo> uh o.O
[14:38] <bahadunn> wiijii: I think #iptables would be a better fit for your question
[14:38] <panasonysung> how can I start Firestarter on startup 'sudo /usr/sbin/firestarter' under sessions --> startup programs doesn't work
[14:38] <wiijii> Good idea
[14:38] <judge4Yslf> any Rus?
[14:39] <bazhang> !ru
[14:39] <sisif> Hello guys. I`m trying to play a DVD and for some reason, mplayer will not open it (first time it does that). I get this error: "MPEG: FATAL: EOF while searching for sequence header.". I`m using Ubuntu 8.10 up-to-date. Any sugestions on what might be wrong ? Thanks.
[14:39] <bahadunn> wiijii: if you think iptables is intuitive you would be in happy land with PF
[14:39] <omzig> i already can run bnc from irssi
[14:39] <omzig> i have another problem..
[14:40] <omzig> i think my ubuntu dont have sound here..
[14:40] <onats> what's the easiest ip pbx i can install on ubuntu?
[14:40] <kristian1> will a hdd with more 1's than 0's, weigh more than a hdd with less 1's than 0's?
[14:40] <bazhang> kristian1, offtopic
[14:40] <_Andrew> sisif: Well EOF means End of File.. I can't help you with your error however maybe it's because there's something wrong with the DVD? Did you install the DVD codecs?
[14:40] <bahadunn> kristian1: are you serious?
[14:41] <kristian1> bazhang : bah! you! :-(
[14:41] <verflixt1234> better help me ;)
[14:41] <wiijii> It will definitely wrigh more
[14:41] <omzig> anyone can help me how to fix my sound?
[14:41] <wiijii> *weigh
[14:41] <omzig> i dont hear it since i use ubuntu today
[14:42] <wiijii> Well the chaps over at #iptables are a quiet bunch
[14:42] <bazhang> omzig, type alsamixer in the terminal and make sure nothing is muted
[14:42] <omzig> wait
[14:43] <veda> two questions
[14:43] <veda> i have a tv tuner card, how do i use it in ubuntu
[14:43] <veda> and i want to be able to listen to local radio fm stations
[14:43] <veda> is that possible?
[14:43] <scunizi> When I first boot my hardy laptop, evolution data server gobbles 50% of my cpu and keeps going until I kill it.  And that's without even loading Evolution. How do I figure out why it's doing that? (tried uninstalling Evo. once and was left with no gui. reinstalled ubuntu-desktop to restore.)
[14:43] <veda> not internet radio
[14:43] <omzig> i dont see mute..
[14:44] <bazhang> omzig, in sound prefs is it set to autodetect or alsa
[14:44] <judge4Yslf> scunizi - Hi, who is your daddy and what is he do?
[14:44] <omzig> wait
[14:44] <bazhang> judge4Yslf, not here.
[14:44] <bazhang> !coc > judge4Yslf
[14:44] <judge4Yslf> dont bullshit me
[14:45] <Jeaton> how do you make a path file in bash
[14:45] <omzig> my pidgin messenger also dont alert and have.....
[14:45] <omzig> *sound
[14:46] <The_Undisputable> hi all
[14:46] <The_Undisputable> noob here
[14:46] <_Andrew> Jeaton: You mean like a "link" ?
[14:47] <The_Undisputable> can somebody please provide me a link to learn fully about ubuntu
[14:47] <Jeaton> i have a folder full of binaries i like to be able to use anywhere in bash, and not have to know the directory it's in everytime I execute them
[14:47] <bazhang> !wiki > The_Undisputable
[14:47] <KillaloT> Hello. I want to play the sound that i record in the microphone, directly to the speakers of mine. How is this possible?
[14:48] <Feddozz> hello, merry christmas
[14:48] <Jeaton> when i say bash, i mean call them anywhere
[14:48] <mgolisch> Jeaton: add this dir to your PATH variable
[14:48] <_Andrew> Jeaton: If you put the binaries in /usr/local/bin they'll be accessible anywhere
[14:48] <Jeaton> mgolisch, how do I go about doing that?
[14:48] <Feddozz> can you help me with ed2k links handling? I can't find the folder ed2k
[14:48] <_Andrew> Or what mgolisch said
[14:49] <Fazavon> The_Undisputable: you can try www.ubuntuguide.org
[14:49] <mgolisch> Jeaton: add something like: export PATH=/somewhere/yourdir/withbinaryfiles/:$PATH to your shellconfig file (~/.bashrc)
[14:49] <Fazavon> that seems to be a good place for newbies to start
[14:51] <Jeaton> thanks
[14:51] <ed0n0n> is there a way to install ubuntu from a USB key??
[14:51] <scunizi> The_Undisputable, go to www.scribd.com and search for ubuntu and you'll have access to pdf books from beginner to advanced..
[14:51] <bazhang> !usb > ed0n0n
[14:51] <Feddozz> can anyone help me with ed2k links handling? I can't find the folder ed2k. amule wiki says that it's supposed to be in /usr/bin/ed2k but htat folder is empty. how can i find it?
[14:53] <Kartagis> Feddozz, find / -type f ed2k
[14:53] <jim_p> Feddozz, you want the amule app? the location of the executable
[14:53] <jim_p> ?
[14:53] <Feddozz> jim_p I think so
[14:54] <bahadunn> ed2k is still around?
[14:54] <jim_p> Feddozz, open a terminal and type                      which amule
[14:55] <Feddozz> jim_p ok done
[14:56] <felix-da-catz_zz> For some reason my Firefox does not go back anymore.  It only sees the URL's that I manually type into the address bar.  It is flaking out.  I just did the update that was available today and that did not help anything.  Anyone else having this problem as well?
[14:56] <Feddozz> bahadunn i need it for ed2k links handling from firefox
[14:58] <ed0n0n> bazhang: I mean FROM USB instead of TO USB, the CD drive seems to be not working, no network, so USB would be a good solution
[14:58] <qneo> is here anyone who has Dell XPS M133O pls?
[14:58] <Andy_> Hi I am running using xubuntu 8.0.4 LTS on a Toshiba L30 satellite laptop, I have google'd ad read stuff about the sound problem and came to the conclusion that the mentioned ways dont clear the "no sound at all bug" with my lappy, I have see people who posted that they have a working sound system on L30 xubuntu., any suggestions ?
[14:59] <ikonia> qneo: yup, I do
[15:00] <cmdrtebok> so ever since i let ubuntu auto update firefox a half hour ago it will not stop telling me i need to restart my browser, even though i did several times and rebooted my computer
[15:00] <cmdrtebok> any ideas?
[15:00] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick  <--- from that link ed0n0n  (part of the factoid I sent you)
[15:00] <qneo> ikonia: I'm considering to buy one. do you have nVidia or intel graphic card?
[15:00] <ikonia> qneo: intel
[15:00] <Vinceman> why do some men have tonsures and others not?
[15:00] <Vinceman> maybe it has to do with how much they use linux, if you use it a lot you won't get one :D
[15:01] <bazhang> Vinceman, what
[15:01] <qneo> ikonia: are you happy with this nb? is everything working under linux?
[15:01] <ikonia> qneo VERY  happy
[15:01] <ed0n0n> bazhang: This link is what I needed, thank you :D
[15:01] <bazhang> Vinceman, keep thjat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[15:02] <Andy_> hello?
[15:02] <Andy_> Hi I am running using xubuntu 8.0.4 LTS on a Toshiba L30 satellite laptop, I have google'd ad read stuff about the sound problem and came to the conclusion that the mentioned ways dont clear the "no sound at all bug" with my lappy, I have see people who posted that they have a working sound system on L30 xubuntu., any suggestions ?
[15:02] <omzig> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:02] <omzig> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:02] <qneo> ikonia: and last, and most important question (for me) - how about fan? is quiet? I mean for normal office work.
[15:02] <bahadunn> tonsures?
[15:02] <bahadunn> what is a tonsure?
[15:02] <ikonia> qneo very rarley hear it
[15:02] <omzig> whats is that?
[15:02] <qneo> ikonia: so is it mostly off? do you use it in quiet room?
[15:02] <bahadunn> nevermind
[15:03] <bazhang> omzig, close add/remove others and try again
[15:03] <ikonia> qneo use it home / office, all using linux, pretty much never hear it
[15:03] <Feddozz> guys I want amule to open ed2k links from firefox, I tried the wiki from amule but it's not working. Can anyone help me?
[15:03] <omzig> wait
[15:04] <qneo> ikonia: ok, thank you very much, that helped me a lot. :)
[15:04] <Andy_> anyone here plays Ragnarok on xubuntu?
[15:05] <bazhang> Andy_, problems running it?
[15:05] <cmdrtebok> any ideas on how to get firefox to stop notifying me to restart? I wouldnt mind stopping all of its unnecessary notifications
[15:05] <Andy_> not yet
[15:05] <Andy_> just confirming
[15:07] <freedumMan> anyone know where wine-dbg is in repo?
[15:07] <giganto> my pidgin keeps disconnecting for some reasons, is anyone experiencing that?
[15:07] <Andy_> mm i think i can run ragnarok with wine..so all i need is to copy paste the game from windows to xubuntu?
[15:08] <lianimator> I can't seem to install Java plugin for firefox3
[15:08] <ed0n0n> I try to install Ubuntu 8.04 over and over in the same PC and it hangs after Live boot, after pushing the Install desktop icon when I select the language, the cd makes a cyclic sound...
[15:08] <bazhang> Andy_, not quite that simple no. you need to install via wine
[15:08] <bazhang> Andy_, more help in #winehq
[15:08] <skoef> ed0n0n: maybe your drive or cd is busted?
[15:08] <Andy_> ed0n0n, whats your ram?
[15:08] <ed0n0n> have just burned the new CD
[15:09] <Feddozz> guys I want amule to open ed2k links from firefox, I tried the wiki from amule but it's not working. I set up the three preferences on the amule wiki. I have some doubts with the network.protocol-handler.app.ed2k , I don't know the path.Can anyone help me?
[15:09] <ed0n0n> Andy: 256 Only
[15:09] <mars__> hi
[15:09] <felix-da-catz_zz> How can I find out what my display name is in X?
[15:09] <Andy_> bazhang, you played ragna?
[15:09] <mars__> is there some standard way to access ruby documentation in ubuntu (localy)
[15:09] <Andy_> ed0n0n, after display?
[15:09] <bazhang> Andy_, no, you can check the appdb though
[15:09] <bazhang> !appdb > Andy_
[15:09] <m0u5e> I have a DELL P991 CRT monitor, and i just installed intrepid on my desktop... for some reason, ubuntu defaults to 1024x768, although I know the crt supports much higher... it works fine when I set it manually using nvidia-settings, but last time, w hen I tried to write to xorg.conf and rebooted, my window directions were all gone
[15:09] <ed0n0n> Oh! Now its passed to the 2/7 step, after a long while waiting
[15:09] <m0u5e> my window *decorations
[15:10] <mars__> i get documentation of all gems with : $ gem server
[15:10] <Enverex> Are there any good GUI batch image resizing tools around? (frontends for something like Imagemagick or such)
[15:10] <ASTAPP> Íàðîä, êàê óñòàíîâèòü óáóíòó ñ ôëåøêè?
[15:10] <ed0n0n> it seems to be working but stunnishingly slow
[15:10] <naivo> my imac can't boot, it seems to load the kernel because it loads some drivers, but then says unable to mount root file system ! (/dev/hda3) and then drop me to ash, but how can it be since the kernel is on /dev/hda3  ??
[15:10] <LjL> !info squash | Enverex
[15:11] <LjL> !ru | ASTAPP
[15:11] <Feddozz> guys I want amule to open ed2k links from firefox, I tried the wiki from amule but it's not working. I set up the three preferences on the amule wiki. I have some doubts with the network.protocol-handler.app.ed2k , I don't know the path.Can anyone help me?
[15:11] <Andy_> ed0n0n, i guess you should try using the alt CD
[15:11] <scunizi> Enverex, I use Mapivi.. I think it's in the repos now.. lossless
[15:11] <bazhang> !ru | ASTAPP
[15:11] <ed0n0n> Andy, I will if it doesnt finish copying this time
[15:11] <gerhard> wheres the assault cube folder by default?
[15:11] <Andy_> ed0n0n, worked for me i also had 256 MB ram and 192 after display
[15:11] <ikonia> Feddozz: you've said about 5 times, if your not getting a response you want quick enough you may consider posting on the forum also
[15:11] <m0u5e> anyone know have problems with setting their resolution above 1024x768?
[15:11] <gerhard> im going to install the update
[15:11] <JokeR-> hello i have a sound problem. "no volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found"
[15:11] <gerhard> but I only find the assaultcube executable
[15:11] <Andy_> ed0n0n, and i was trying from live CD for like 3-4 days?
[15:11] <Enverex> scunizi, Well in short what I need to do is convert 65 BMP images to 70% size, 90% quality JPEGs...
[15:12] <ed0n0n> Andy: Got the Iso, I will burn it straight if isnt working with the new burned one
[15:12] <ed0n0n> but have no ethernet in this PC
[15:12] <Feddozz> ikonia can you help me?
[15:12] <ikonia> Feddozz: no
[15:12] <Andy_> ed0n0n, yeah try that
[15:12] <gerhard> when I type "whereis assaultcube" the terminal responds only the folder where the executable is located
[15:12] <JokeR-> hello i have a sound problem. "no volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found"
[15:12] <gerhard> but I need the aditional folders
[15:13] <ed0n0n> The partitions are created already, shoould I reformat the ext3 partition, after defining mount point in it?
[15:13] <m0u5e> JokeR-:  you don't get any sound at all?
[15:13] <ed0n0n> Im using only 5.4Gb for this partition
[15:13] <scunizi> Enverex, shouldn't be an issue.. if they are in the same directory mapivi should be able to do it.  Of course it might depend on you ram level.. imagemagick would be the second easiest way to do it.
[15:13] <m0u5e> JokeR-: have you checked under hardware drivers, your soundcard might have proprietary drivers
[15:13] <JokeR-> m0u5e: yes
[15:14] <Enverex> scunizi, Can't find any GUIs for ImageMagick
[15:14] <AdvoWork> anyone recommend a program that will allow me to auto mount a UFS formatted HD?
[15:14] <omzig> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:14] <scunizi> Enverex, nope.. terminal only
[15:14] <omzig> whats is that?
[15:14] <ikonia> AdvoWork the kernel has ufs support
[15:14] <m0u5e> JokeR-: hmmm do you know what soundcard you have?
[15:14] <bazhang> omzig, close add/remove, synaptic or others and try again
[15:15] <JokeR-> m0u5e: i didnt check. i said yes about your 1st question :)
[15:15] <Andy_> bazhang, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=701  here it works :P
[15:15] <stefg_> I just installed intrepid-i386 from a Desktop CD and then manually installed mdadm and put my /home on a separate raid1 partition. I experience quite annoying harddisk shreddering in ~3 sec. intervals. i checked if the raid1 might be resyncing (no), mount everything with 'noatime,nodiratime' ... doesn't help. i use reiserfs for / and /var, ext3 for /home and some xfs partitons for video and...
[15:15] <stefg_> ...multimedia. How can i find out what's accessing the disks?
[15:15] <JokeR-> m0u5e: how can i check?
[15:15] <AdvoWork> ikonia, ive got a ufs formatted hd, with data on, plug it into the usb port of ubuntu machine, and it wont auto mount though? wheras ext2 for example does?
[15:15] <m0u5e> JokeR-: system>administration>hardware drivers
[15:15] <ikonia> AdvoWork try to manually mount it
[15:16] <Enverex> scunizi, Just wish someone would make a GUI, if one existed I would have finished shortly after I started looking rather than having to research Imagemagick and bash scripting
[15:16] <omzig> u mean close my update manager that im doin now?
[15:16] <Waltherx> hello
[15:16] <AdvoWork> ikonia, how do i know the way to mount that drive though?
[15:16] <bazhang> omzig, are you using more than one instance of apt?
[15:16] <ikonia> AdvoWork same as any other drive but with the UFS file system
[15:16] <JokeR-> m0u5e: and?
[15:16] <omzig> i use two terminal..
[15:16] <m0u5e> JokeR-: does it list anything for drivers?
[15:16] <Mohammad[B]> hi all
[15:16] <omzig> close the other one terminal?
[15:16] <m0u5e> JokeR-: install whatever it asks you to install related to sound
[15:16] <bazhang> omzig, you can only use one at any time
[15:16] <JokeR-> m0u5e:  only ATI drivers
[15:17] <omzig> ok
[15:17] <Waltherx> excuse me
[15:17] <m0u5e> JokeR-: meh...
[15:17] <m0u5e> JokeR-: when is it giving you that gstreamer error?
[15:17] <Mohammad[B]> Howto i can create a VPN Server and give account to other in Ubuntu-Server ?!
[15:17] <omzig> what is apt mean?
[15:17] <Waltherx> i would to know there is a channel for pro audio software???
[15:17] <AdvoWork> ikonia,  never done it like that :S
[15:18] <LjL> !apt | omzig
[15:18] <omzig> i already close the other terminal but same also..
[15:18] <m0u5e> JokeR-: try going under System>Preferences>Sound, and see if everything under there is configured correctly
[15:18] <Ward1983> audacious became blue...
[15:18] <bazhang> omzig, close all instances of add/remove , synaptic, etc
[15:18] <Ward1983> why do i keep havind those retarded crappy probl;ems
[15:18] <JokeR-> m0u5e: there is muted icon on the top and when i click it shows me that
[15:18] <omzig> all..?
[15:18] <Ward1983> audacious is a blue as it gets and EVERY SKIN
[15:18] <omzig> ok2..
[15:18] <bazhang> omzig, yes
[15:18] <omzig> later after i update my manager..
[15:19] <Ward1983> im mad angry it has no reason to be blue :@
[15:19] <citrikwave> Hello
[15:19] <m0u5e> JokeR-: so yeah, go under sound, and check if everything there is configured correctly
[15:19] <citrikwave> (I don't want to interrupt, does anybody use Ubuntu Studio here ?)
[15:19] <JokeR-> m0u5e:  it is
[15:19] <bazhang> citrikwave, please ask your questions
[15:19] <citrikwave> thanks ;)
[15:20] <LjL> citrikwave: maybe, but #ubuntustudio might be a better bet
[15:20] <m0u5e> JokeR-: do you know what sound card you have?
[15:20] <JokeR-> m0u5e:  when i click on the test button it shows me error again
[15:20] <omzig> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[15:20] <omzig> <--whats this again..?
[15:20] <bazhang> omzig, use sudo
[15:20] <citrikwave> I am gonna try first on studio chan
[15:20] <m0u5e> JokeR-: instead of autodetect what other options is it giving you
[15:20] <Tamale> can anyone help me reconfigure the dhclient timeout on bootup?
[15:20] <Andy_> bazhang, suppose i want to clear some RAM for working games like Ragna can i close some sleeping programmes without affecting the managers?
[15:20] <Tamale> our dhcp server is slow here @ work
[15:20] <kevin_405> bazhang,  are u there
[15:21] <bazhang> Andy_, be careful what you choose
[15:21] <bazhang> kevin_405, yep
[15:21] <JokeR-> m0u5e:  ALSA, OSD, ESD, PulseAudio
[15:21] <Andy_> bazhang, hwo about pyton?
[15:21] <kevin_405> bazhang,  need u help to make wifi thru fwcutter permanent and set up eth0
[15:22] <bazhang> kevin_405, which chipset for eth0
[15:22] <m0u5e> JokeR-: this is for sound playback?
[15:22] <ed0n0n> I ge t a [Errno 5] Input/Output error, when installing from CD. The CD is new, the drive is old but has been working untill now, so dont know about the hard drive, how can I check if this eeror was caused vy the CD or the HardDrive? How can I check the hard drive?
[15:22] <kevin_405>  BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX
[15:22] <JokeR-> m0u5e: for everything
[15:23] <citrikwave> wow, nobody on ubuntustudio...
[15:23] <m0u5e> JokeR-: this is a laptop... desktop... we need to know what soundcard you have... ( you could lspci) and see if your soundcard is there
[15:23] <kevin_405> bazhang,   BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX
[15:23] <stefg_> ed0n0n: the CD has a self test-feature, and for the hd there's usually some DOS vendor utility to perfom sanity checks
[15:23] <jim_p> citrikwave, is it an ubuntustudio specific problem?
[15:23] <JokeR-> m0u5e: desktop
[15:23] <bazhang> kevin_405, please paste.ubuntu.com with the output of lspci (dont paste here) and give us the url
[15:23] <m0u5e> JokeR-: its possible that your sound kernel module isnt loaded... but we can't do that unless we know what soundcard you have...
[15:23] <ed0n0n> stefg_: you mean chkdsk?
[15:23] <m0u5e> JokeR-: is it vendor or custom built?
[15:24] <qneo> ikonia: sorry to bother you again, but I forgot to ask about hdd. what hdd do you have, can you hear it? is it very quiet as well?
[15:24] <JokeR-> m0u5e: vendor
[15:24] <citrikwave> jim_p not really, I think it's more an Ubuntu problem
[15:24] <m0u5e> JokeR-: mm Dell, HP, Gateway, etc? which one :D
[15:24] <jim_p> citrikwave, then tell it1
[15:24] <jim_p> !!!
[15:24] <citrikwave> k
[15:24] <JokeR-> m0u5e: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
[15:24] <citrikwave> so, I was working on Hardy version, and tryied to install Ardour VST
[15:24] <ikonia> qneo: silent 200gb thing
[15:24] <stefg_> ed0n0n: no i mean a vendor supplied utility for checkeing and low-level formatting the hd... look at western digital, samsung, seagate or hitachis website for it
[15:24] <ed0n0n> citrikwave: #ubuntustudio
[15:24] <jim_p> JokeR-, your card is old enough to be supported by alsa completely
[15:25] <m0u5e> JokeR-: you're running ubuntu intrepid?
[15:25] <citrikwave> big and long compilation, etc so I had to install a lot of packages
[15:25] <qneo> ikonia: ty :)
[15:25] <LjL> ed0n0n: he's just coming from there.
[15:25] <Ward1983> ok so nobody has any clue why audacious has become blue? (every skin)
[15:25] <citrikwave> later, I installed UbuntuStudio desktop and the linux RT as packages
[15:25] <JokeR-> http://linux.dsplabs.com.au/files/p31-audio/screenshot-mixer-applet.png
[15:25] <citrikwave> but my computer is sooooo slow with ardour
[15:25] <JokeR-> http://linux.dsplabs.com.au/files/p31-audio/screenshot-gnome-volume-control.png
[15:25] <citrikwave> I don't get it
[15:25] <kevin_405> bazhang,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/87855/
[15:25] <JokeR-> this is what it shows me
[15:25] <Ward1983> ok its clear i will never receiuve any help here
[15:26] <bazhang> citrikwave, which kernel uname -a in the terminal
[15:26] <m0u5e> JokeR-: hrm... you could always try to install gstreamer plugins... though i don't think thats the problem
[15:26] <citrikwave> bazhang Linux maxime-laptop 2.6.24-22-rt #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Mon Nov 24 20:47:19 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[15:26] <unh0ly> hi there
[15:26] <m0u5e> Ward1983: just be patient, we aren't paid to do this :)
[15:27] <bazhang> kevin_405, you know you can use only one at a time right? wired/wireless
[15:27] <citrikwave> hahaha
[15:27] <m0u5e> Ward1983: what was your question? just ask it again
[15:27] <JokeR-> m0u5e: so what u suggest to do
[15:27] <unh0ly> I need help about ubuntu 8.10. can any1 help plz??
[15:27] <Djon> Hello All
[15:27] <bazhang> Ward1983, you need to ask a question; just complaining wont get help here
[15:27] <kevin_405> bazhang, yes i run into problems with both
[15:27] <stefg_> !anyone
[15:27] <jim_p> unh0ly, tell us!
[15:27] <m0u5e> JokeR-: well, first make sure you're running to newest version of ubuntu (intrepid) ... if not, then reinstall with that
[15:27] <Ward1983> bazhang, m0u5e  all allready asked it 3 times since i came here
[15:28] <Mohammad[B]> Howto i can create a VPN Server and give account to other in Ubuntu-Server ?!
[15:28] <JokeR-> m0u5e: everything is updated..
[15:28] <unh0ly> jim_p, i recentlyt saw on a friends MID (no known vendor) ubuntu 8.10 installed.
[15:28] <msk__> installing packages without net ?? is it possible ??
[15:28] <Ward1983> bazhang, m0u5e audacious became blue
[15:28] <jim_p> unh0ly, mid = ?
[15:28] <stefg_> msk__: sudo dpkg -i foobar.deb
[15:28] <m0u5e> Ward1983: what about it?
[15:28] <fosco__> msk__: yes, but it is a waste of time
[15:28] <Ward1983> bazhang, m0u5e it doesnt make sense i know, but every skin is equally blue...
[15:28] <bazhang> Ward1983, did you try another skin?
[15:28] <m0u5e> Ward1983: you know you can change the default skin under skins...?
[15:28] <Ward1983> bazhang, i just said: every skin
[15:28] <citrikwave> If somebody can help me, please tell me
[15:28] <Ward1983> m0u5e, i just said: every skin
[15:29] <m0u5e> Ward1983: oh
[15:29] <unh0ly> the guy that made the installation told me that if I dload the 8.10 cd, I can find there a menu to create a bootable usb stick to install from. but no such menu:)
[15:29] <m0u5e> Ward1983: okay i'm checking
[15:29] <msk__> fosco__ : no problem...ready to spend some time
[15:29] <m0u5e> JokeR-: cat /etc/lsb-release into a term
[15:29] <fosco__> ok then
[15:29] <fosco__> :)
[15:29] <Ward1983> m0u5e, sorry thats why im a littel bit short fused, i cannot use it and its blue, and it worked fine before
[15:29] <unh0ly> jim_p, mobile internet device
[15:29] <Ward1983> reinstalling doesnt even help
[15:29] <JokeR-> m0u5e:
[15:29] <JokeR-> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[15:29] <JokeR-> DISTRIB_RELEASE=8.10
[15:29] <JokeR-> DISTRIB_CODENAME=intrepid
[15:29] <JokeR-> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 8.10"
[15:29] <FloodBot3> JokeR-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:29] <Photoguy> How do I make the terminal "watch " Wine?   I want to see the error reports.
[15:29] <jim_p> unh0ly, a tiny little laptop? yes some come with ubuntu preinstalled or you can install it in there
[15:29] <citrikwave> bazhang ?
[15:30] <scunizi> unh0ly, the menu is there after installing the system... I think under System>Admin
[15:30] <m0u5e> Ward1983: weird... it white for me :(
[15:30] <citrikwave> any idead about my prob ?
[15:30] <unh0ly> jim_p, I need to install it on an asus eeepc 4G surf
[15:30] <Ward1983> m0u5e, lol offocurse it is, my situation is not normal
[15:30] <kevin_405> bazhang, i will try removing networkmanager and see if it makes a difference
[15:30] <fosco__> unh0ly: open a terminal and type gksu usb-creator
[15:30] <m0u5e> Ward1983:  have you tried reinstalling it?
[15:30] <Ward1983> its normally standard a white skin
[15:30] <ASULutzy> Photoguy: You can't just run wine via terminal?
[15:30] <JokeR-> jim_p: what u suggest?
[15:30] <jim_p> unh0ly, ok, go ahead and do it
[15:30] <Photoguy> Oh
[15:30] <Ward1983> m0u5e, lol yes i just said even reinstalling wont help
[15:30] <Ward1983> fully removed even
[15:30] <m0u5e> Ward1983: hmm.... weird...
[15:30] <kevin_405> bazhang, i will be back dont post anything for me i will ping u
[15:30] <bazhang> Ward1983, sounds like a serious bug
[15:30] <Ward1983> m0u5e, weird is a understatement
[15:30] <unh0ly> fosco_, i don't have ubuntu installed on another pc.
[15:30] <m0u5e> Ward1983: try installing it from getdeb?
[15:31] <jim_p> JokeR-, i suggest removing pulseaudio and let alsa take over
[15:31] <Photoguy> What is the command to run Wine in the terminal? (Sorry)
[15:31] <msk__> stefg_ : there is no internet connection !
[15:31] <ASULutzy> Photoguy: wine
[15:31] <fosco__> unh0ly: do it from LiveCD
[15:31] <Ward1983> bazhang, im on a persistent live system, but it worked fine before
[15:31] <Photoguy> Oh
[15:31] <unh0ly> jim_p, mine came with xandros :s some crappy debian clone
[15:31] <ASULutzy> Photoguy: wine /the/path/to/the/file.exe
[15:31] <Ward1983> bazhang, using it for a few days now and all of a sudden audacious turns blue :d
[15:31] <unh0ly> fosco_, it doesn't even boot
[15:31] <jim_p> unh0ly, eeepcs do come with candros
[15:31] <jim_p> *xandros
[15:31] <m0u5e> JokeR-, Ward1983: okay i gotta go get some breakfast, bbl ... i hope your problems resolve / others help you :) good luck
[15:32] <m0u5e> PS, Ward1983: http://www.getdeb.net/app/Audacious
[15:32] <JokeR-> m0u5e: thank u
[15:32] <Ward1983> m0u5e, ok enjoy breakfast
[15:32] <m0u5e> JokeR-: np :) and good luck
[15:32]  * Ward1983 opens rythmbox / remobes audacious never to be used again
[15:32] <unh0ly> jim_p, yes but i don't like it at all. I'm mainly a slackware/gentoo guy so the xandros is rather an "early mandrake like" system
[15:33] <jim_p> unh0ly, will uninstalling / formatting it void the warranty?
[15:33] <JokeR-> jim_p: aplay: device_list:215: no soundcards found...
[15:34] <jim_p> unh0ly, there is a tar.gz of arch linux specially built for eepc
[15:34] <unh0ly> jim_p, not a problem. I'm already planning on buying some extra ram modules and I will install it on my own, so the warranty is already considered broken;p
[15:34] <jim_p> JokeR-, did you remove pulseaudio?
[15:34] <msk> installing packages without net...? is this possible ??
[15:34] <JokeR-> jim_p: no.. how to do it?
[15:34] <jim_p> msk, depends on what you want to install
[15:34] <nibbler>  msk: sure, just install the .deb using dpkg
[15:34] <bazhang> msk, which packages do you need to install
[15:34] <jim_p> JokeR-, sudo apt-ge autoremove pulseaudio
[15:35] <Ward1983> bazhang, ok i found the problem i think
[15:35] <unh0ly> jim_p, arch linux? what is this? where does it derive from??
[15:35] <Ward1983> bazhang, a partition with the default playlist and all the songs on it, didnt mount
[15:35] <jim_p> unh0ly, slackware
[15:35] <jim_p> unh0ly, slackware + a proper package manager
[15:35] <unh0ly> jim_p, reaaaaaalllllllyyyyyyyyyy??
[15:35] <msk> jim_p: the basic one's ...media players,cd-burners...etc
[15:35] <Ward1983> apperantly it goes blue then i guess
[15:35] <bazhang> arch discussion is offtopic here
[15:35] <jim_p> unh0ly, can i pm you?
[15:35] <unh0ly> jim_p, sure
[15:35] <jim_p> msk, download the dvd iso then and use it as a repo
[15:35] <Ward1983> but i cannot mount the disk :(
[15:36] <Ward1983> wtf is wrong again
[15:36] <Ward1983> why do i allways get massive sh*tstorms thorwn at me :@
[15:36] <wann135lc> hello
[15:36]  * Ward1983 reboots once again
[15:37] <msk> jim_p : will i get any dependency problems while using a DVD ?
[15:37] <jim_p> helo wann135lc
[15:37] <msk> hello wann1351c
[15:37] <Photoguy> So, I if I want to the terminal to watch Battlefield 2 (under Wine)  do I enter this?    /home/adams/bf2.exe
[15:37] <jim_p> msk, no. if you download and install each .deb seperately, you will
[15:38] <JokeR-> jim_p: done
[15:38] <jim_p> Photoguy, depends on the path of the executable. its like              wine /path/to/executable.exe
[15:38] <jim_p> JokeR-, reboot or restart alsa
[15:39] <JokeR-> jim_p: im new :) how to do it
[15:40] <jim_p> JokeR-, sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart          or reboot the pc
[15:40] <JokeR-> jim_p: done
[15:40] <jim_p> JokeR-, do you have sound?
[15:40] <JokeR-> jim_p: not at all....
[15:41] <jim_p> JokeR-, reboot then
[15:42] <allsystemsarego> is there a good howto for sending files to a USB-connected Nokia phone? Google does not give relevant results
[15:42] <enticingjelly> hello
[15:42] <enticingjelly> i am having serious refresh problems in, apparently, Qt applications
[15:42] <enticingjelly> most noticable in psi
[15:43] <kevin_405> bazhang, i have both eth0 and wlan0 working
[15:43] <DefamedPrawn> hmmm I'm having difficulties with the repos
[15:43] <DefamedPrawn> W: Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.filearena.net/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/s/shadow/login_4.1.1-1ubuntu1.2_i386.deb
[15:43] <DefamedPrawn>   Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file.
[15:43] <enticingjelly> it's really really irritating and I can't find *anything*
[15:43] <omzig> ok already done..
[15:43] <omzig> tq for your help k?
[15:43] <enticingjelly> I already tried switching to another Qt/KDE style and similar things, nothing works
[15:43] <DefamedPrawn> I seem to be unable to download important security updates
[15:43] <enticingjelly> GTK/Gnome applications work flawlessly
[15:43] <hischild> DefamedPrawn, that isn't a ubuntu repo. Did you manually add it?
[15:43] <DefamedPrawn> hischild yes. I kind of had to.
[15:44] <enticingjelly> I had this problem both on my home workstation and at work. for some reason, it doesn't seem to occur on my home workstation anymore (not entirely sure), however I don't know what's different
[15:44] <JokeR-> jim_p: the same message... the same problem...
[15:44] <hischild> DefamedPrawn, why did you have to? I can't think of any reason to have to.
[15:44] <enticingjelly> for example, whenever I get a new message in an open window in psi, I have to *click* on the window for it to repaint correctly, so that I can read it
[15:44] <enticingjelly> also, scrolling in e.g. lists is really awful
[15:44] <kevin_405> bazhang, eth0 and wlan0 both are working if i remove network manager
[15:44] <bazhang> kevin_405, okay
[15:44] <kevin_405> bazhang, i need to make the setting permenent
[15:45] <kevin_405> bazhang, need ur help.. 1st problem is the order in which modules are loaded where can i control that
[15:45] <decko_144> hi
[15:45] <decko_144> kako e
[15:45] <DefamedPrawn> hischild i have a download quota with my ISP. If I go over it, I get penalized. Some sites are quota free, filearena.net is one of them.
[15:46] <decko_144> koj saka secen kur
[15:46] <decko_144> 20 cm
[15:46] <JokeR-> maika ti
[15:46] <bazhang> kevin_405, please ask the channel, I have to go away for a bit
[15:46] <asl1> español
[15:46] <bazhang> !es
[15:46] <JokeR-> jim_p: ?
[15:46] <hischild> DefamedPrawn, security updates should always be downloaded from the official site, using another site can seriously compromise security of your system.
[15:46] <kevin_405> bazhang, ok thx for ur help so far
[15:46] <jim_p> here JokeR-
[15:46] <kevin_405> Can anyone help with correcting module load order
[15:46] <JokeR-> jim_p: the same thing...
[15:47] <enticingjelly> it's really really irritating
[15:47] <combo> hello all :) i have question: i was updating & upgrading system via terminal and suddenly I closed the window. now it is written that there are terminated updates. how can I finish the upgrade?
[15:47] <enticingjelly> and I really did almost everything that came into my mind but I don't find the reason :(
[15:47] <stefg> !apt | combo
[15:48] <hischild> DefamedPrawn, if you can't find the files you need from their site, it might be down or a wrong entry in your sources.list.
[15:48] <kevin_405> Can anyone help with correcting module load order
[15:48] <DefamedPrawn> hischild k thanks.
[15:48] <combo> stefg, thx :) will read 'bout that :)
[15:48] <hischild> enticingjelly, you may have to ask again, just saying it's really irritating isn't going to help.
[15:49] <stefg> combo: sudo apt-get -f install should do it for you
[15:49] <JokeR-> jim_p: no more suggestions?
[15:49] <jim_p> JokeR-, i quit. try another live cd or another distro on a live cd and check for sound again
[15:49] <enticingjelly> hischild, I typed a lot of lines to describe the problem :(
[15:49] <enticingjelly> but here the short version:
[15:49] <hischild> !apt-fix | combo
[15:49] <jim_p> JokeR-, i have to leave, my girl calls :P
[15:49] <L0neWolf> Is there a way to automatically get GRUB to locate another distro that's installed while in Ubuntu?  Lost access to my OpenSUSE tester when I repaired GRUB
[15:49] <hischild> enticingjelly, calm down on the enter button, all on one line.
[15:50] <thichphan> hello
[15:50] <temur> hi
[15:50] <temur> kann hier einer Deutsch?
[15:50] <hischild> !de | temur
[15:50] <thichphan> xin chao
[15:50] <temur> danke
[15:50] <combo> stefg: nope, doesn't work. it told me that there are still 3 unactualizated :(
[15:51] <stefg> L0neWolf: notice the line ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST in menu.list .... beyond that you are free to add additional entries which will be preserved wne update-grub runs
[15:51] <hischild> combo, did you see the factoid ubuntu gave you?
[15:51] <thichphan> aloo Ubuntu 8.10
[15:51] <kevin_405> stefg, do u know how to correct order of modules loaded during startup..
[15:51] <hischild> kevin_405, don't ask random people in this channel.
[15:51] <stefg> combo: so sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgarde again
[15:52] <combo> hischild: didn't help?
[15:52] <kevin_405> hischild, why is it a random question
[15:52] <enticingjelly> Qt applications, apparently (or maybe it's KDE applications or just individual ones, hard to tell) have severe refresh problems, both on my home workstation and at work. most notably in psi. for example, when I have a chat window open and receive a new message into it, I have to actually click into the window for it to repaint correctly, so that I can read it. I also have to do that after typing a message myself. scrolling e.g. ...
[15:52] <Jozyx> I just installed Xubuntu on an old Acer with a Ati Trident videocard but I won't let me set the resolution to it's max (1024x768). Now I tried some googling but all the solutions are for 8.04 and I can't seem to figure it out. Could someone go trough the steps with me of adding a resolution?
[15:52] <enticingjelly> ... the contact list also only partially refreshes it. GTK/Gnome applications seem to be perfectly fine. I already tried switching to another Qt style, deactivating varios effects in KDE settings (I currently use Gnome, however), all to no avail. I'm under the impression that the problem doesn't appear on my home workstation anymore, though I'm not entirely sure, because sometime the problem is subtle (sometimes it's awful, like ...
[15:52] <enticingjelly> ... psi at work) and I don't remember doing anything particular. It's really irritating and I have no new ideas.
[15:52] <hischild> combo, what did you type in console?
[15:52] <L0neWolf> stefg, where is menu.list by default, root?
[15:52] <stefg> L0neWolf: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:53] <combo> hischild: i typed in console "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[15:53] <kevin_405> can anyone help with order in modules get loaded..
[15:53] <combo> hischild: just as you said to do
[15:53] <allsystemsarego> My USB-connected Nokia has a lsusb ID of "0421:0064 Nokia Mobile Phones" - how can I send mp3 files to it?
[15:53] <hischild> combo, pastebin the output please.
[15:53] <ASULutzy> Jozyx: The steps should be the same pretty much regardless of version, it should automatically detect them, I would try doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg otherwise you could add some lines to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and restart X
[15:53] <combo> hischild: kk
[15:54] <Jozyx> Ok thanks I'll try it out
[15:54] <hischild> kevin_405, it is, and you're asking random people in this channel if they know it. If you just ask the question and someone knows it, they'll answer.
[15:54] <enticingjelly> I really don't know what to do anymore, any ideas for any workarounds or something?
[15:54] <L0neWolf> stefg, thanks, I'll go and find out how to add the entry I need  :)
[15:54] <combo> hischild: oupss... it looks there is nothing happening after typing that in console, so I have nothing to pastebin for you (?) ;|
[15:54] <bluey> does anyone know how to enable USB in virtualbox?
[15:54] <combo> hischild: no reaction, no answer.. anything happens
[15:54] <personaV> Can someone help me upgrade ruby?  I'm at 1.8.6  v36 and would like to be at 1.8.7 v22.  I've downloaded the source, and ran a default ./configure and make and make install, but my ruby -v still reads the older version.
[15:55] <stefg> Jozyx: my guess is that you are running on the vesa driver...
[15:55] <hischild> combo, run this for me --> sudo aptitude update
[15:55] <ASULutzy> bluey: It's not available in virtualbox-ose, you have to use the proprietary one
[15:55] <ASULutzy> bluey: Just uninstall the OSE, and go to virtualbox's website and install from there
[15:55] <stefg> !fixres | Jozyx
[15:55] <omzig> what is the short-cut key to slect terminal?
[15:56] <phazzzz> hello, quick question: is it possible to put mp3 files on my samsung mobile phone using wammu?
[15:56] <bluey> ASULutzy:  does that mean i have to pay for it?
[15:56] <combo> hischild: did it
[15:56] <ASULutzy> bluey: No, it's free, it's just not open source
[15:56] <hischild> combo, pastebin that output please.
[15:56] <stefg> I just installed intrepid-i386 from a Desktop CD and then manually installed mdadm and put my /home on a separate raid1 partition. I experience quite annoying harddisk shreddering in ~3 sec. intervals. i checked if the raid1 might be resyncing (no), mount everything with 'noatime,nodiratime' ... doesn't help. i use reiserfs for / and /var, ext3 for /home and some xfs partitons for video and...
[15:56] <stefg> ...multimedia. How can i find out what's accessing the disks?
[15:56] <bluey> ASULutzy: will i have to remove my windows image too?
[15:56] <ASULutzy> bluey: No, you can use the same image
[15:56] <bluey> cool
[15:57] <hischild> stefg, you know the locations? then try using lsof | grep <file location>
[15:57] <combo> hischild: ok, i'm doing this, but by the way - I remember long long time ago I did same mistake with terminating upgrade and then helped some command with dpkg -reconfigure something, can't remember now :P
[15:57] <bluey> ASULutzy: i am trying to run itunes on Vbox... do u think it will work... i mean for connecting to my ipod touch
[15:57] <omzig> anyone know what is the short-cut key for enter terminal?
[15:57] <hischild> combo, long time ago? perhaps it's still in your history then. try this --> history | grep dpkg
[15:58] <dee> Hello.
[15:58] <hischild> bluey, if you use the one from their site and not the one from repo's, maybe. Using the one from repo's, no.
[15:58] <ASULutzy> bluey: Hmm, it probably will
[15:58] <hischild> omzig, you mean ctrl - alt - f2 ?
[15:58] <personaV> Anyone able to help me upgrade my ruby install?
[15:58] <combo> history, nope it was on previous version of my Kubuntu, before format about year ago ;P
[15:58] <stefg> hischild: that is my problem... i have no idea what process is writing where. i just let the box idle, but even 5 minutes after boot i still have that annoying 'charrgg'....'charrg' every 3-5 seconds
[15:58] <hischild> combo, ahh ok. Anyway, you did the pastebin?
[15:59] <dee> I want to build linux-ubuntu-modules for my kernel but do not know how to say that I have a own kernel. It always tries to get the sources from the standard kernel.
[15:59] <ASULutzy> bluey: There are a couple things you can use to interface with your ipod via Ubuntu without a VM, I think gtkpod or something, let me check
[15:59] <omzig> that for big window..
[15:59] <omzig> i just want the normal
[15:59] <ASULutzy> bluey: Have you tried sudo apt-get install gtkpod ?
[15:59] <hischild> stefg, hmm, you tried using top? maybe it shows you what process has a heavy mem usage.
[15:59] <PETERPORKER> ciao a tutti
[15:59] <bluey> ASULutzy:  i hope so. i spent a lot of money on this ipod and i will be damned if it makes me have to dual boot with XP.... no gtkpod doesnt work with ipod touch
[16:00] <PETERPORKER> come va...?
[16:00] <bluey> ASULutzy: yes i got gtkpod installed
[16:00] <ASULutzy> bluey: Ah, so you're right... Well, what I will say is, I've had nothing but great experiences with USB passthrough using the non open source edition of Vbox
[16:00] <combo> hischild: yeap, sorki for being late, here you go: http://pastebin.pl/4099
[16:00] <Pici> stefg: Use iotop (in the repos) to show what process is doing the most reads/writes
[16:00] <hischild> combo, no prob.
[16:00] <ASULutzy> bluey: There was one thing I had to change in /etc/fstab to get it to work, but once I did that, it was easy-peasy
[16:00] <phazzzz> hello, quick question: is it possible to put mp3 files on my samsung mobile phone using wammu?
[16:01] <bluey> lol.....ya i canged the fstab thing... just cudnt get it to work... now i know bcoz it was OSE
[16:01] <hischild> combo, looks right so far. For the next part, this command should run the updates. --> sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[16:02] <ASULutzy> bluey: Yea, the OSE does not support USB passthrough whatsoever (other than mounting the folder as a shared folder, but that'd only work for like pendrives and stuff :)
[16:02] <combo> hischild: ok
[16:02] <hischild> combo, and pastebin that as well please.
[16:02] <stefg> hischild: that's not swap shredding.... i use 200 MB out of 4 GB, free -m tells me another 200 MB for buffers and cache... i just boot the box and let it alone, but it never stops accessing the disk every 3-5 seconds...  can it be a syslog ---mark--- ? That wouldn't make such an awful noise and head repositioning
[16:02] <combo> hischild: ok :)
[16:03] <bluey> ASULutzy: wish me luck.. will let u know how it goes
[16:03] <stefg> ... and i start wondering if my hd's are getting worn out by it
[16:04] <untitled> hi there, where does kubuntu store kde sounds?
[16:04] <phazzzz> hello, quick question: is it possible to put mp3 files on my samsung mobile phone using wammu?
[16:04] <stefg> Pici: good poinz.. i'll try
[16:04] <ASULutzy> stefg: You could install smartmontools and then do sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda (or whatever it is) and check if it's parking the head way more often than it ought to be
[16:04] <hischild> stefg, doesn't have to be swap shredding, and that's not why i'm suggesting it. My thoughts were that the program that keeps accessing your disc, has to use either memory or at least has some spiking CPU usage.
[16:04] <stefg> ASULutzy: have them already ... hdparm -B 255 and  -M 200 are in my local boot script
[16:05] <ASULutzy> stefg: Ah ok!
[16:06] <bening_> hello
[16:08] <bening> hi ubuntu is okay
[16:08] <devlin_> goodfriends
[16:08] <kaiser10123> whats better dual boot or wubi install way
[16:08] <combo> hischild: it took a bit of time, but it works as well :)
[16:08] <combo> hischild: thanks a lot man! :D:D
[16:09] <Pici> kaiser10123: It depends whether you mind re-partitioning your harddrive or not.
[16:09] <hischild> combo, you were trying to install a program? see if you can do that as wel.
[16:09] <ASULutzy> kaiser10123: Dual boot is better. Wubi stinks
[16:09] <kaiser10123> Pici: i dont mind i usually dual boot or straight linux
[16:10] <kaiser10123> straight linux with xp in virtualbox if not
[16:10] <Pici> kaiser10123: Then go with the dual-boot option.
[16:10] <ASULutzy> kaiser10123: Wubi offers no real advantages over setting up a dual-boot other than you have to edit your partitions to dualboot
[16:10] <combo> hischild: yes, everything works ;P
[16:10] <hischild> combo, good to hear!
[16:10] <ASULutzy> kaiser10123: But there are several disadvantages to Wubi, so yea :)
[16:10] <chills> hey guys iam using a usb wireless dongle.. and the problem is wifi is working fine but sometimes it randomly drops..i managed to figure it out last time but i cant now.. well couldnt find the guide
[16:10] <bening> i have tired with virus
[16:10] <chills> its a r72 or whatever
[16:11] <combo> hischild: thanks one more time, I'm your obligator ;)
[16:11] <bening> i can help you chills..
[16:11] <chills> bening, please :D
[16:11] <hischild> combo, haha you're welcome.
[16:11] <combo> hischild: ;) kk, bye!
[16:11] <chills> i need to use the ralink or something but i dont remember what
[16:11] <jrib> !wifi > chills
[16:12] <bening> you can make an eksternall antena
[16:12] <bening> have you tried it
[16:12] <chills> nah its not that
[16:12] <ASULutzy> chills: I'm having issue with my USB wireless adapter ever since intrepid... It uses rtl8187b, and when doing stuff with aircrack-ng, kernel panics left and right... It's no fun :)
[16:12] <kaiser10123> ok thats cool hey if i dual boot ubuntu and sabayon would it be easy to setup a virtualbox of xp that is accessed from both the same?
[16:12] <georgeaf> anyone knows how to shrink a wubi volume WITHOUT creating new disks and copying everything ?
[16:12] <chills> ASULutzy, no i made it work.
[16:13] <chills> i just cant remember the wbsite
[16:13] <stefg> Pici: iotop is a geat idea ... kjournald is the offender . now the easier part is to find out what filesystem needs so much journalling even when idling (i  strongly suspect xfs...) ..and i'm glad that it is not mdadm
[16:13] <ASULutzy> kaiser10123: Yea, you can have different installs access the same virtual disk (or real disk for that matter)
[16:13] <personaV> anyone able to help me upgrade my ruby?
[16:13] <ASULutzy> chills: Yea, mine works, it just likes to cause kernel panics every now and again ;)
[16:14] <kaiser10123> well actually i wanna use mythbuntu cause i have tvturner isnt mythbuntu just ubuntu with mythtv easysetup?
[16:14] <georgeaf> anyone knows how to shrink a wubi volume WITHOUT creating new disks and copying everything ?
[16:14] <chills> no no it works fine, u dont need to use the network manaher tht comes with ubuntu
[16:14] <Ianbeyer> has anyone seen an issue where the system clock keeps reverting to 1956 under VMWare?
[16:14] <sisif> Hello guys. When trying to compile mplayer from cvn i got this error: collect2: "ld returned 1 exit status". I know LD is GNU Linker, but I have no ideea on how to fix this. Any sugestion will be apreciated. Thanks.
[16:15] <Van^> sisif: What's the errors around it?
[16:15] <Van^> you get a file not found error for a lib?
[16:15] <sisif> Van^: That`s it. After that I get "make: *** [mplayer] Error 1"
[16:15] <Van^> scroll up
[16:16] <Van^> and see if there is any other errors
[16:16] <georgeaf> anyone knows how to shrink a wubi volume WITHOUT creating new disks and copying everything ?
[16:16] <kaiser10123> what is all kept in /home and how big should i make it
[16:16] <dee> sisif: I suppose you miss some libraries.
[16:16] <sisif> Van^: I can paste my output to pastebin if you want ..
[16:16] <hischild> kaiser10123, all your files are in there.
[16:16] <hischild> sisif, always a good idea
[16:16] <stefg> georgeaf: i'd consider a proper ubuntu-install
[16:16] <ASULutzy> kaiser10123: /home is all your personal files :)
[16:16] <Van^> if you want...can't promise that I'll be able to help. :)
[16:17] <georgeaf> no other way ?
[16:17] <georgeaf> ubuntu damaged my windows installation before and don't wanna try it again
[16:17] <sisif> Van^: there it is: http://pastebin.com/d5a3b03cf
[16:17] <Van^> damaged your windows installation?
[16:18] <kaiser10123> ASULutzy: so like all my media and docs so how big should i make it if i want to have like 150gb of video and music to be accessed from sabayon and ubuntu if i put it all in /home when either loads up it will be there?
[16:18] <georgeaf> yes, i had a preinstalled vista on my new laptop, when i installed ubuntu, booting became very slow (it stayed like 5 hours) and in the end it gave a BSOD
[16:18] <kantor> hi
[16:18] <kantor> somebody used the kdbg debugger ?
[16:19] <hischild> sisif, please pastebin the entire error, from top to bottom.
[16:19] <georgeaf> and i suffered trying to remove ubuntu and grub
[16:19] <Van^> sisif: You're getting undefined references....wonder if you need a newer version of xvid?
[16:19] <powertool08> what channel should I join to reset a nickserv password?
[16:19] <kaiser10123> ASULutzy: i have a 500gb harddrive
[16:19] <georgeaf> would ext2resize help me ?
[16:20] <sisif> hischild : you want to paste ALL output from compileing process ?
[16:20] <Van^> georgeaf: I have em installed on different partitions on the same box, no problem.
[16:20] <kaiser10123> ASULutzy: want to use desktop as media center 1st computer 2nd
[16:20] <sipior> georgeaf: have you tried the filesystem resize instructions given at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How%20do%20I%20resize%20the%20virtual%20disks?
[16:20] <hischild> sisif, from the part you type make to the new terminal you get, yes.
[16:21] <sisif> hischild : I`ll have to "make" again since my terminal doen`t scroll that much up
[16:21] <dva5912> How can i find out what processes are using port 8000 - 8001
[16:21] <hischild> sisif, then just pastebin what you got now.
[16:21] <kulight> is there a deb of the x64 java somewhere ?
[16:21] <georgeaf> yes tried them, and i don't have enough space, that way it creates a new 5GB (or w/e size) file and formats it and copys everything from the original mounted file to that then mounts the new file. I don't have enough space
[16:21] <sisif> hischild : ok, just a second
[16:21] <sipior> dva5912: "sudo netstat -antup | grep 800[01]
[16:22] <[T]ank> I am seeing this message over and over in my /var/log/messages file http://pastebin.ca/1288687 what does it mean? Interestingly enough I am having network failures at some of those times.
[16:22] <GNUtoo> hello, is this motherboard supported by ubuntu: http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=627&l4=0&model=2033&modelmenu=2
[16:22] <GNUtoo> ?
[16:23] <sisif> hischild : there you go: http://pastebin.com/d6da6e162
[16:23] <sipior> GNUtoo: have you tried googling "board name" + Ubuntu | Linux ?
[16:23] <GNUtoo> sipior, good idea...
[16:24] <sipior> that's why i'm paid the big bucks
[16:24] <GNUtoo> sipior, before that i had chosen another mainboard but it had jmicron and realtech(10/100/1000) chips that had problems...so  i've choosen this one now
[16:24] <hischild> sisif, curious, but did you do this before hand? --> apt-get build-dep mplayer (assuming this is just mplayer you're building)
[16:25] <kristian1> anyone know of any terminal games? that will work over ssh/putty. example: tetris?
[16:25] <Pici> kristian1: The bsd-games package has a few.
[16:25] <fosco_> kristian1, netris
[16:25] <kristian1> Pici : will i be able to apt-get it?
[16:25] <sisif> kristian1 : no, I didn`t
[16:25] <Pici> kristian1: Indeed.
[16:26] <kristian1> fosco_ : thanks, will check it out.
[16:26] <kristian1> sisif : ok?
[16:26] <[c0re]> hi there.
[16:26] <kristian1> Pici : thanks. will check it out.
[16:26] <ravi> hi...............
[16:26] <bazhang> [c0re], ??
[16:26] <[c0re]> there is a process named call "gmgr" can anyone tell me what is it? i cant even kill it...
[16:26] <kulight> is there a deb of the x64 java somewhere or a simple way to install it ?
[16:27] <sisif> hischild : no, I didn`t
[16:27] <[c0re]> bazhang, i came here after 70 hours
[16:27] <ravi> is there no use of c# in linux
[16:28] <sipior> ravi: sure, have a look at Mono
[16:28] <GNUtoo> by the way...do I have to recompile the kernel if i use 8GB of ram under the newer ubuntu
[16:28] <GNUtoo> ?
[16:28] <caracol> hola
[16:28] <Slart> ravi: there's mono
[16:28] <kristian1> Pici : um whats the package name? bsd-games package doesn't excist.
[16:28] <ravi> sipior is mono is good platform
[16:28] <caracol>  solo ay kinuxceros aka
[16:28] <caracol>  o ke peod
[16:29] <Slart> GNUtoo: I don't know the limits of 64-bit ubuntu but i'd guess it's higher than 8GB
[16:29] <fosco_> GNUtoo, no
[16:29] <sipior> ravi: quite a few people have done interesting things with it. i'm not familiar enough with it to have a strong feeling one way or another.
[16:29] <Slart> !es | caracol
[16:29] <Pici> kristian1: bsdgames, sorry.
[16:29] <GNUtoo> fosco_, even on 32bit?
[16:29] <GNUtoo> Slart, ok thanks
[16:29] <ravi> ok
[16:29] <fosco_> GNUtoo, on 32bits you will only use 3.2gb of RAM
[16:29] <ravi> thanks sipior
[16:29] <kaiser10123> if i put all video and music under /home subdirectories do i need to make that partion as big as want to have to store video?
[16:30] <sisif> hischild : beside, apt-get build-dep mplayer does not work
[16:30] <GNUtoo> fosco_, ok thanks...what doesn't work on 64bit?
[16:30] <kaiser10123> the /home partition?
[16:30] <hischild> sisif, what do you mean doesn't work?
[16:30] <Slart> GNUtoo: 32-bit ubuntu can only handle 4GB minus something like 0,8GB for memory mapping
[16:30] <kristian1> Pici : thanks! :-) is there any way for me to list available packages with a apt-get command? so i can browse package name and description?
[16:30] <fosco_> GNUtoo, everything works
[16:30] <hischild> Slart, it can do to just about 64gb with PAE
[16:30] <GNUtoo> fosco_, even wine,flash,nvidia drivers?
[16:30] <sisif> hischild : i mean: "E: Unable to find a source package for mplayer
[16:30] <fosco_> GNUtoo, all
[16:30] <ravi> there is allways a problem comes when i am using ubuntu on windows at the strating of ubuntu
[16:31] <Slart> GNUtoo: it uses 32-bit flash via a wrapper but that seems to be changing.. I've had some problems with bank security software that was only available as 32-bit.. that's about it I think
[16:31] <GNUtoo> Slart, ok thanks a lot
[16:31] <Bluey_> ASULutzy: Could not load the Host USB Proxy Service (VERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND). The service might be not installed on the host computer.
[16:31] <Slart> GNUtoo: nvidia drivers aren't a problem, flash works but could be better.. wine is 32 bit but that runs fine anyway (and there's a 64 bit wine coming up)
[16:31] <Bluey_> do u know how tt\o solve that
[16:31] <hischild> sisif, sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer <-- just works for me here
[16:31] <Bluey_> whois ASULutzy
[16:32] <GNUtoo> Slart, ok thanks so there is a wrapper for wine or does it just runs...(in 64bit for running 32bit apps)
[16:32] <sisif> hischild : noup. I get the same error
[16:32] <GNUtoo> otherwise i could recompile the kernel with PAE but that would break in updates
[16:32] <Slart> GNUtoo: it just runs.. 64 bit linux can run 32-bit binaries.. it's usually the libraries that can be troublesome
[16:33] <GNUtoo> Slart, ok thanks a lot
[16:33] <hischild> sisif, you have all the repo's enabled? And you got some reason to really need to compile it?
[16:33] <caracol> hola
[16:33] <linuxkrn> hi all, can anyone tell me where the global (for all users) file associations are?
[16:34] <sisif> hischild : yes, I think I do. And I need to compile it because the repo version is not able to play encrypted DVD.
[16:34] <Slart> hischild: is PAE needed on 64-bit ubuntu? I've got to go read up on this.
[16:34] <Pici> kristian1: Not with apt-get, but aptitude can.
[16:34] <hischild> Slart, no, only on 32bit. But it allows you to use 64gb on 32bit os.
[16:34] <Slart> !dvd
[16:34] <Bluey_> ASULutzy: u there?
[16:34] <talntid> ugh
[16:34] <talntid> 3 feet of snow
[16:34] <stefg> Pici , hischild : thx for the ideas. i tracked the problem down to  ext3 on raid1... that seems to be an unfortunate combination under certain conditions... kjounald writes, and mdadm syncs the data directly afterwards... so a small journal write becomes an obvious/audible disk access... i /always/ knew that ext3 is the crappiest filesystem , and only chosen because the other ones aren't...
[16:34] <stefg> ...properly maintained. i think i rather trust my /home -dat to the 'killer fs' :-) reiserfs
[16:35] <Slart> hischild: ah.. ok
[16:35] <techorb> kristian1: try apt-cache search your-term-here
[16:35] <ed0n0n> I am trying to install Ubuntu in an old computer, got RAM, got a new burned CD, checed with a different CD-drive, and I now I am sure that the hard drive is failing. How can I check and "tag" the broken blocks in the drive so I can remake partitions and install succesfully?
[16:35] <Zarcom> hello
[16:35] <kaiser10123> if i have 2 different linux os can i use same /home for both so all my media is available to both in same place
[16:35] <Zarcom> I have a few questions on this OS
[16:35] <techorb> kristian1: also, for a list of what's installed, you can run dpkg -l
[16:36] <Zarcom> how can I make a system tray?
[16:36] <Zarcom> actually let me rephrase that
[16:36] <Zarcom> how can I minimize stuff to my panel?
[16:36] <Slart> Zarcom: you can add one to a gnome-panel
[16:36] <Zarcom> also, I cannot seem to find the control center, I formatted after I messed it up lol
[16:36] <Zzeiss> ed0n0n: I would advise against reusing a failing HD.  If it's getting block errors, the errors will likely snowball as the disk fails more and more.  You're just setting yourself up for a world of hurt by bothering to install on it.
[16:36] <Slart> Zarcom: I think that's called a "window list" and it's also available in the gnome panel "Add to this panel" thingy
[16:37] <Zarcom> Start: ah ok
[16:37] <stefg> kaiser10123: generally yes, but i would be careful that you don't e.g. use firefox2 on one distro and FF3 on the other... you bokkmarks would be converted, so FF2 could no longer see them
[16:37] <Bluey_> Can anyone help me to load USB device on Vbox?
[16:37] <Zzeiss> ed0n0n: My advice is to get a not-failing HDA and use that.  Craigslist, or something...
[16:37] <mchelen> !videocard
[16:37] <ed0n0n> Zzeiss: Thanks for your advice, apreciated
[16:37] <mchelen> !video
[16:37] <mchelen> !intel
[16:37] <mchelen> !nvidia
[16:37] <techorb> Bluey: you need to the pro version I think to enable USB support ...
[16:37] <kristian1> Pici & techorb : thanks! :-)
[16:37] <Zarcom> Start: excellent its working now :D
[16:37] <Zarcom> also, where can I retrieve the control center
[16:38] <Zarcom> I had it before I had to reinstall ubuntu
[16:38] <Slart> Zarcom: either it's not installed by default or it's hidden
[16:38] <stefg> kaiser10123: my advice would be to mount the home partition to /mnt/home on the other distro and just link or bind-mount the dirs that you kanow are safe to share
[16:38] <Slart> Zarcom: try system, preferences, main menu.. and see if it's hidden
[16:38] <Acedip> hey i just ran a disk check and does this output mean that the partition is clean http://pastebin.com/m58e847ff ..????
[16:38] <Zarcom> start: alright
[16:38] <GNUtoo> sipior, i only find post on windows or on hardware with a link to a ubuntu part of the forum...
[16:38] <Zzeiss> ed0n0n: In fact, if the mobo will boot from a USB port, consider that.  (the issue is that the _real_ soul of your machine is the disk image, not the mobo, CPU, or video.  If the HDA loses the data, you're out of luck on all your work, bookmarks, setup effort... it's _all_ gone)
[16:38] <tawfiq_> #latex
[16:39] <Slart> Zarcom: it's supposed to be in the system menu
[16:39] <Zarcom> start: do not see it there?
[16:39] <Zzeiss> Acedip: Yep.  Looks like a nice partition.
[16:39] <GNUtoo> sipior, mabe i'll look for lspci instead of ubuntu
[16:39] <ed0n0n> Zzeiss: Misteriously XP is working..,
[16:39] <Zarcom> start: I do not see it there
[16:39] <sipior> GNUtoo: and linux turned up nothing?
[16:39] <Zarcom> andI have installed KDE as well
[16:40] <Acedip> Zzeiss: i want to run an extensive disk check, any tool for that ?
[16:40] <GNUtoo> sipior, ah...i'm trying it now...i found something
[16:40] <Zzeiss> ed0n0n: Not surprising.  It probably never touches 95% of the bits it puts on the disk.
[16:40] <CarlFK> I heard of a beta version of flash, (may have been just the current ver compiled for x64) is it in a repo somewhere?
[16:40] <kaiser10123> stefg: i was going have majority same programs on both but dont i have to install programs on both seperately and i was going to dual boot with mythbuntu and sabayon and have xp in virtualbox can i put vdi file in /home too and just make a little space for installs in sabayon and mythbuntu install and store all media and a dynamic vdi for xp so all can be in same place for both sabayon and mythbuntu
[16:40] <ed0n0n> Zzeiss: Really? How that happen?
[16:40] <Zzeiss> Acedip:  Well, fsck _is_ the usual high-level check.  Are you worried about low-level issues like lost blocks?
[16:41] <benzss> in hardy can network manager request a static ip address?
[16:41] <Slart> CarlFK: I think you can download it and put it in your plugins folder manually.. but I haven't seen any repos with it yet
[16:41] <Slart> benzss: if it could do that it wouldn't be a static address, now would it? =)
[16:41] <CarlFK> Slart: got the url handy?
[16:41] <sisif> hischild : so any suggestion on what my cause that error ?
[16:41] <Zzeiss> ed0n0n: Consider how many device drivers you have, versus how many you ever use.  Consider how many fonts and cliparts and "screensaver pics" you have.  If any of those were disrupted, what's the chance you'd notice it?
[16:41] <Slart> CarlFK: nope.. but google has to have lots of hits for 64bit flash
[16:41] <benzss> slart: what?
[16:41] <white-sheep> How do you mount *existing* encrypted luks?
[16:42] <stefg> kaiser10123: i didn't really understand that. but you can always mount a drive to some neutral place in /mnt and just put symlinks inside your homefolder for the stuff that you want
[16:42] <hischild> sisif, not on that error, but you can dvd playback by checking what slart (iirc) gave you with !dvd
[16:42] <sipior> benzss: i believe the latest version of NM has support for configuring static addresses, but this is not the version in ubuntu 8.10, to my knowledge.
[16:42] <hischild> !dvd | sisif
[16:42] <Slart> benzss: a static address isn't requested.. it's just set once locally on the computer
[16:42] <Acedip> Zzeiss: i dont know, i had troubles partitioning the disk using Gparted and it wouldn't just make partitions but finally did after trying so much, so i though i'd have a thorough disk check
[16:42] <benzss> sipior: oh i see
[16:42] <Zarcom> start: control center is a part of KDE right?
[16:43] <bening> is there indonesian here?
[16:43] <kaiser10123> stefg: so im better off making a media partiton instead of huge /home partition?
[16:43] <sisif> hischild : thank you
[16:43] <stefg> kaiser10123: actually yes
[16:43] <Slart> Zarcom: I have a control centre in gnome.. I don't anything about KDE
[16:43] <bazhang> !id | bening
[16:43] <Zzeiss> Acedip: Oh, have you wiped XP off it yet?  Or did you do a partition resize?
[16:43] <Zarcom> start: ahhh thats probably why
[16:43] <Zarcom> I did not upgrade nor install gnome lol
[16:43] <Zarcom> thanks, one sec
[16:44] <PriceChild> white-sheep: probe the required  modules, then something like sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda4 sda4_crypt
[16:44] <Zarcom> and hwen I minimize a window, it does not go to the tray, why is this?
[16:44] <The-Compiler> sorry about the join-leave flood | Sorry wegen dem join-leave flood
[16:44] <Zzeiss> Acedip: and if you have a working XP, just swap drives.  Keep the XP working in case you need to upgrade the flash in the BIOS.
[16:44] <rw_> Hi, does anyone know if the Ubuntu 8.10 ppc version supports wireless on the ps3?
[16:44] <Zarcom> do I have to relad it from the tray in order to do that?
[16:44] <hischild> With compiz running the title bars of the windows with focus often get screwed up. Any solutions?
[16:44] <Anastasia> I had to boot from live cd of an old version of Ubuntu because after I installed 8.10 release the system crashed, now I want to do split the HD so I can install it from a cd on one partition and windows in the other. How can I do the partition??? I am trying to save some files if possible... like 56Gbs of music
[16:44] <white-sheep> PriceChild, Care to assist me?  Google have lot of "how to lvm-encrypt".
[16:44] <Slart> Zarcom: the tray isn't where minimized programs go.. that's called the window list.. the tray is where the pidgin icon and azureus icons etc are located
[16:44] <wathek_> any one know if I can find a repo where I can download Qt4.5 beta ?
[16:44] <stefg> kaiser10123: and consider that you can use the best filesystem for the job when separating the configs and settings in /home (lots of small files = reiserfs) and the big video files (xfs)
[16:45] <PriceChild> white-sheep: did you try what I suggested above?
[16:45] <white-sheep> PriceChild, Let me try the command first.
[16:45] <white-sheep> PriceChild, Yeah.  That.
[16:45] <Zarcom> start: ah, but is there a way to just minmizing it to the panel, instead of having a huge bar?
[16:45] <PriceChild> white-sheep: not that exact command...
[16:45] <iplaythisgam> I have a headless server I have set up hellanzb on. I need to start hellanzb and stunnel4 at startup so that i dont have to log in and start them each time i want to use them. I want them to start at boot. commands are    hellanzb     and     sudo stunnel4 /etc/stunnel/snntp.conf
[16:45] <TJ-42> does anyone know of a tool that makes arranging windows easier in a big monitor?  In MS Windows, I used a tool called Grid Move, which created grids on a screen to which I could move any window.
[16:45] <PriceChild> white-sheep: adapt it to suit your particular setup.. ie the device
[16:45] <Slart> Zarcom: now I'm not sure I understand what you mean... can you explain?
[16:46] <Zarcom> start: basically instead of seeing multiple windows on my lower_panel, I basically want to minmize them to "tray icons"
[16:46] <Zzeiss> TJ-42: Are you running a multiple-desktop screen manager?  Most folks just keep N desktops, one for each application or process.
[16:46] <Zarcom> is that possible?
[16:46] <white-sheep> PriceChild, What's the second parameter for?  Where to mount?
[16:46] <Slart> Zarcom: that would depend on the program you minimize..
[16:47] <Zarcom> start: like wine for example
[16:47] <Slart> Zarcom: I haven't done this in linux but in windows the program had to hide itself and wait for someone to click the task tray icon and then unhide..
[16:47] <PriceChild> white-sheep: "man cryptsetup" explains what each is
[16:47] <TJ-42> Zzeiss, yea I am, but I don't need firefox taking up a full 24inch widescreen monitor, for example, and it's nice to be able to see multiple things all at the same time, without having to switch desktops
[16:47] <white-sheep> PriceChild -- Command failed: Can not access device.
[16:47] <Zarcom> start: ahh ok, I am good with windows, I know how do that :D
[16:47] <PriceChild> white-sheep: then you got the wrong device.
[16:47] <Zzeiss> TJ-42: Ahhh... OK.  Different problem then.  I only have 13.3" to play in.  :)
[16:47] <FFEMTcJ> is it just me or was openoffice3 added to the repos
[16:47] <Slart> Zarcom: but you can probably tweak the window list if you want..
[16:48] <TJ-42> monitors are cheap Zzeiss, get yourself something bigger :-)
[16:48] <iplaythisgam> how do i start a script with/and without  sudo privaledges without pw at boot without logging in?
[16:48] <PriceChild> TJ-42: when helping please be helpful ;)
[16:48] <GNUtoo> sipior, ouch...i don't find the card in the linux kenrel in Ethernet(1000 Mbit)
[16:49] <Zarcom> start: where is that located?
[16:49] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone give me a solution which i posted at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014856&highlight=aptoncd+update+database
[16:49] <Acedip> Zzeiss: its my external drive,it was ntfs earlier but now parted to ext3
[16:49] <GNUtoo> sipior, it's a nvidia card...is it supported by an external driver?
[16:49] <Zzeiss> TJ-42: So, what you really want is something like a Mac's "expose' "?  If so, compiz has that.
[16:49] <stefg> iplaythisgam: old, but still valid: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[16:49] <TJ-42> PriceChild: I was actually being helped, and thought I was being friendly, sorry if it was misunderstood.
[16:49] <Bluey_> i get this error on vbox
[16:49] <Bluey_> Could not load the Host USB Proxy Service (VERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND). The service might be not installed on the host computer.
[16:49] <Zzeiss> TJ-42: no problem... it's a laptop.
[16:50] <Slart> iplaythisgam: one way of doing it (I'm not saying its the only one or even the best one) is to pipe the password from a file to the sudo prompt. (check man sudo for info).. it's kind of bad since you have your password in cleartext in a file.. there might be other ways of doing it.. such as disabling the sudo password for a certain file.. but that isn't good either..
[16:50] <Bluey_> can anyone help me with that?
[16:50] <PriceChild> TJ-42: okies :)
[16:50] <TJ-42> hmm, I'm not familiar with Macs, Zzeiss.  Do you know what the tool in compiz is called?
[16:50] <Zzeiss> Acedip: Hmmm... maybe it would be a good idea to run a low-level disk surface analyzer.
[16:50] <stefg> Acedip: try the ultimate Boot CD and use the vendors low level tool
[16:51] <allsystemsarego> !bluetooth | allsystemsarego
[16:51] <Zzeiss> TJ-42: Something like "show all windows" - it puts little versions of all the windows up on the screen without overlapping, and you click onwhichever you want to be fronted.
[16:51] <TJ-42> I'll look into it, thank you zzeiss
[16:51] <stefg> Acedip: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[16:51] <Zzeiss> TJ-42: You can set it up so that it happens automatically whenever you put the mouse cursor into one of the corners of the screen.  DAMN handy, that.  :)
[16:53] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone give me a solution which i posted at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014856&highlight=aptoncd+update+database
[16:53] <Acedip> stefg: isnt it for windows ?
[16:53] <Bluey_> Could not load the Host USB Proxy Service (VERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND). The service might be not installed on the host computer. does anyone know what to do
[16:54] <sipior> GNUtoo: i doubt it. to be honest, unless there is an overwhelming technical reason to choose this board, it's probably best to play it safe. unless you're willing to experiment, of course...
[16:54] <kaiser10123> stefg: so if i do sabayon and ubuntu installs as reiserfs and media partition with alot of video as xfs it will be better?
[16:54] <GNUtoo> sipior, so which board should I choose...it's the second mainboard that has problems with ubuntu...
[16:55] <Acedip> Zzeiss: isnt it for windows ?
[16:55] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone give me a solution which i posted at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014856&highlight=aptoncd+update+database
[16:56] <GNUtoo> sipior, alternatively the sata_nv chip is supported by the kernel,and the audio chip too...so mabe i could buy the board with a pci network card if necessary
[16:57] <DarkKnight> can we play NFS undercover on ubuntu
[16:57] <Pici> !appdb | DarkKnight
[16:57] <sipior> GNUtoo: there you go. gbit network cards are cheap.
[16:57] <xand_> hi folks, i can't run my applications with a different encoding in gnome-terminal nor linux terminal, as i can with konsole, can anyone please help me ?
[16:57] <GNUtoo> sipior, 10/100 are sufficent i think
[16:57] <DarkKnight> Pici; ya i have installed wine...
[16:57] <sipior> GNUtoo: even cheaper, then
[16:57] <GNUtoo> sipior, it's only for connecting to the internet
[16:58] <DarkKnight> Pici; unfortunately i have got only 96 graphics inbuilt in my mothernoard
[16:58] <DarkKnight> Pici; *motherboard
[16:58] <Pici> DarkKnight: Please go to the appdb in a browser and see if that game will work in Wine anyway.
[16:59] <Pici> DarkKnight: And join #winehq if you need specific help getting it to work.
[17:00] <HypnoGenX> I'm having some trouble with Ubuntu 8.10. Bought a second hand PC which I intended to use as a convenient office PC, and installed Ubuntu on it. Installation went without a hitch, but the window manager seemingly refuses to load. The login manager works, but as soon as I hit enter the background goes black, and I have nothing but a white mouse pointer. No disk activity, nada.
[17:00] <HypnoGenX> Haven't been able to figure out how to get any terminal output instead of X, so I don't have access to any kind of error messages. Anyone have any pointers?
[17:01] <Hamsun> 7msg nickserv identify banana123^^
[17:01] <Hamsun> fuck..
[17:01] <HypnoGenX> *snicker*
[17:01] <ikonia> Hamsun change that password
[17:01] <ikonia> Hamsun: whoaa, no need fo rthat
[17:01] <Hamsun> err, durr durr hurr..
[17:01] <roosel> anyone get limewire to work on 8.04
[17:01] <Hamsun> How do I change my nickserv password?
[17:02] <Pici> Hamsun: /msg nickserv help set password
[17:02] <soreau> roosel: Lime and Frostwire work fine
[17:02] <emilien> !frostwire | roosel
[17:04] <roosel> ok well if anyone would like to tell me why.... I installed the .deb file for Limewire but it doesnt appear in any of my lists and if i try to type limewire in bash its an unrecognized command
[17:05] <fosco_> roosel, dpkg -l | grep lime and make sure it is installed
[17:06] <roosel> fosco_ : if nothing comes up does this mean it is not installed ?
[17:06] <[TiZ]> Hi. I'm trying to add some custom resolutions to my Ubuntu Intrepid, like 768x480, for OpenArena, and 640x400, for DosBox. I have modelines in my xorg.conf, and display subsections too. But I still don't get the custom resolutions at startup. I can add new modes from xrandr, though. So what's going on?
[17:06] <fosco_> roosel, yes, it is not installed
[17:07] <roosel> fosco_ can you tell me why that might be ?  i ran the .deb file and synaptic said it had installed it successfully
[17:07] <roosel> fosco_ 2x actually and both have had the same result
[17:08] <fosco_> maybe package name do not contain "lime" word :-?
[17:08] <fosco_> roosel, install it using sudo dpkg -i *.deb and paste the results in pastebin.com
[17:08] <roosel> ok
[17:10] <roosel> anyone know the default download location for firefox
[17:10] <Slart> HypnoGenX: try pressing ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a command line
[17:10] <roosel> nvm
[17:11] <Slart> HypnoGenX: when you see that one you can switch between several command line shells with ALT+1, ALT+2, ALT+3 etc.. ALT+7 should take you back to X/Gnome..
[17:11] <white-sheep> PriceChild, I got the problem solved.  Thanks again. :)
[17:12] <PriceChild> white-sheep: great
[17:12] <roosel> will ~/Desktop link to the desktop for currently logged person ?
[17:12] <Slart> roosel: yes
[17:12] <roosel> Slart thx
[17:13] <HypnoGenX> Slart: Thanks! Was used to using Ctrl+Alt instead, never figured it might be different. :-P
[17:13] <Slart> HypnoGenX: you need ctrl+alt+F# to get out to the first one.. oh.. I see I've made a mistak.. it's ALT+F1, ALT+F2 etc in my second part there
[17:13] <roosel> fosco_ install worked when using dpkg
[17:14] <fosco_> ok
[17:14] <roosel> fosco_ thanks for your help... just one follow up tho... why would synaptic mess it up ?
[17:14] <HypnoGenX> Slart: Hmm...Doesn't respond to either Alt or Ctrl+Alt and any function keys. Infact the entire keyboard seems dead. Num lock and such aren't toggling either. O.o
[17:14] <fosco_> roosel, not sure, but synaptic works with repos and limewire is not in the official repos
[17:15] <Markla709> hey
[17:15] <Slart> HypnoGenX: odd.. did the live cd work alright for you?
[17:15] <xand_> hi folks, i can't run my applications with a different encoding in gnome-terminal nor linux terminal, as i can with konsole, can anyone please help me ?
[17:16] <SimonTek> on the update manager, a newer version of a package. passwd. Why do they still make new versions of that? Is it really likely that there has been a bunch of changes?
[17:16] <SimonTek> ok I go read changelog
[17:16] <SimonTek> ECURITY UPDATE: root privilege escalation via utmp group.
[17:16] <SimonTek>     - debian/patches/303_login_symlink_attack: upstream fix
[17:16] <Pici> SimonTek: Is that a question?
[17:17] <HypnoGenX> Slart: The installation worked fine, but booting the live environment to 'try out Ubuntu' has the same issues.
[17:17] <SimonTek> not really. i posted my own answer
[17:18] <Slart> HypnoGenX: you can try the usualy fixes.. nolapic, noapic just to see if that works.. but it's hard to diagnose something without any kind of error message
[17:19] <HypnoGenX> Slart: Indeed. :-\
[17:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Problems running Livecd... At start or install screen, press F6 and remove splash and quiet,  if that does not work do it again but now also add noapic acpi=off before the -- on the command line
[17:19] <bonez45> how would I download....all articles, all links, on a site.. 2 levels deep?
[17:20] <guillermo> hello
[17:20] <Slart> bonez45: use wget.. or one of it's guis
[17:20] <Slart> bonez45: I think there's even a firefox plugin for it
[17:21] <HypnoGenX> Yay. Managed to switch to another terminal. Keyboard works fine during boot. So I guess I get to figure out why GNOME and KDE die on me.
[17:23] <psicobra> in #transmission
[17:24] <Ace2016_-> Hi all
[17:24] <Formode1> Hello, trying to get a HFS+ Partition created with gparted. Anyone know how?
[17:24] <Ace2016_-> what filesystem deals best with hard lockups? which result in the least disasterous dataloss
[17:25] <wiehan> will: "cp -vp /target/* /source" copy all folders and files within source to the target?
[17:25] <Formode1> ace2016_ , Try a journaled filesystem. :)
[17:25] <Ace2016_-> Formode1: i use xfs at the moment
[17:26] <Ace2016_-> is ext3 better?
[17:26] <Formode1> Hello, trying to get a HFS+ Partition created with gparted. Anyone know how? Mac DiskUtils isn't able to do it, for some reason.
[17:27] <lenswipe> i cant add users can someone please help
[17:27] <wiehan> will: "cp -vp /target/* /source" copy all folders and files within source to the target - as opposed to just copying the files from the source.. someone told me to ommit the R from cp -vpR and use '*'
[17:27] <lenswipe> anyone?
[17:27] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto lenswipe
[17:27] <lenswipe> no
[17:27] <lenswipe> i know how to add users
[17:27] <lenswipe> it doesnt work
[17:28] <Pici> lenswipe: Why not?
[17:28] <lenswipe> ubuntu is creating users with no home dir
[17:28] <lenswipe> even if i specify one
[17:28] <Ace2016_-> is it possible to ubuntu with / mounted readonly? and with tempfs or a separate partition for /var and /tmp?
[17:28] <lenswipe> no
[17:28] <dicapo> how to search for files which contain specific string? in shell
[17:28] <lenswipe> if i create a user through webmin
[17:28] <lenswipe> that works
[17:28] <Pici> dicapo: grep -R "string" /path/*
[17:28] <lenswipe> but just not if i do it locally
[17:28] <Pici> !enter | lenswipe
[17:28] <mahe1> hi, does anybody know where the cpu governor can be changed?
[17:29] <Ace2016_-> I intend to create a dual control system (working on a better name)
[17:29] <lenswipe> can someone help me please, ubuntu is creating users with no home directory...
[17:29] <Ace2016_-> it'll make upgrading safer
[17:30] <fosco_> mahe1, use the cpufreq-selector command
[17:30] <white-sheep> Could somebody tell me how to compile / install / make / etc?  I have gfortune-1.0.2 that I'd like to compile.  It's a GUI for fortune.
[17:30] <Formode1> Hello, anyone know any ways to create an HFS+ partition in Ubuntu that is recognizable (And thus useable, installable on) by Mac OS?
[17:30] <Pelo> since the firefox update this morning , flashblock doesn't work anymore,  anyone else get this ?
[17:30] <lenswipe> i cant add users on ubuntu, it creates users with no home dir
[17:31] <wiehan> white-sheep: have installed build-essentials
[17:31] <Pelo> Formode1, have you tried the live cd with gparted ?
[17:31] <Formode1> I've been trying to use gparted in the ubuntu repos, it can't create HFS+ Though.
[17:31] <wiehan> white-sheep: have you installed build-essentials (or build-essential, not sure)? it is necessary
[17:32] <Pelo> Formode1, from the live cd , gparted is usualy a bit more versatile
[17:32] <white-sheep> wiehan, I'm doing it right now.
[17:32] <white-sheep> wiehan, Done.
[17:32] <Formode1> pelo,Hm, is that because it is newer or?
[17:32] <Pelo> Formode1, there is actualy a live cd specificaly for gparted,  google for it
[17:32] <lenswipe> can somone help me with ubuntu please
[17:33] <lenswipe> its creating users with no home directories
[17:33] <bikak0> hey, is there a free cli multi language translator for linux ?
[17:33] <Pelo> Formode1, because from the live cd there are usualy no mounted partitions on the hdd so it makes things simpler
[17:33] <white-sheep> wiehan -- Where do I go from there?  Apparently it's used to build deb packages.
[17:33] <UUH> Hi. Noob-question incoming. I'm trying out Ubuntu (8.10) with a Live CD.
[17:33] <UUH> It won't be as slow as it is now if I install it on my harddrive, right?
[17:33] <lenswipe> i dont know why, please help
[17:33] <lenswipe> anyone?
[17:33] <bazhang> UUH, likely no
[17:33] <wiehan> white-sheep: ok, after that.. read the readme contained within the tar file... (first extract the tar file)... it would tell you do something like: sudo configure ; sudo make ; sudo make install...
[17:33] <Formode1> pelo, I can boot from the ubuntu live cd to do that, can't I? That's what I was doing last night for resizing/etc.
[17:33] <UUH> bazhang: Likely?
[17:33] <wiehan> UUH:  no.
[17:33] <dicapo> Pici: thanks
[17:33] <bazhang> UUH, via wubi or real install?
[17:33] <Pelo> UUH, , the live cd uses your ram to make a fake hdd, so you'll have more ram to play with , also some cpu is required to run stuf from the ram so ....
[17:34] <Pelo> Formode1, yes you can
[17:34] <UUH> Okey, so it's like 99% sure it's going to be faster if I really install it?
[17:34] <mahe1> foscel_, do you happen to know the conf file this can be set in?
[17:34] <lenswipe> I cannot create users with home directories
[17:34] <mahe1> UUH, sure
[17:34] <wiehan> UUH: yes, and 100% sure it will be faster than windows
[17:34] <lenswipe> please help
[17:34] <bazhang> UUH, with enough ram yes certainly, with wubi perhaps
[17:34] <lenswipe> it deosnt work.
[17:34] <Formode1> pelo, Ok, but I was just on that last night and it didn't support HFS+?
[17:34] <UUH> :P
[17:34] <Pelo> UUH, yes, but if you already have a very fast comp with a lot of mem on it , you might not see much of a diff
[17:34] <Doonz> is there a way to adjust chunk size on a software raid array without rebuilding it?
[17:35] <lenswipe> Ubuntu
[17:35] <pepparkaka> So apt-cache, klogd and dd is eating all my cpu and it's been going on for over an hour. Even rebooting doesn't help as it just starts up again. Any hints ?
[17:35] <lenswipe> isnt
[17:35] <lenswipe> creating
[17:35] <lenswipe> users
[17:35] <lenswipe> with
[17:35] <FloodBot3> lenswipe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:35] <lenswipe> home
[17:35] <Pelo> Formode1, then try downloading the gparted live cd,  should have more options
[17:35] <UUH> I've got 4GB RAM and dual-core 2,5GHz processor
[17:35] <bazhang> lenswipe, stop repeating
[17:35] <Formode1> lenswipe, Don't flood please. :-P
[17:35] <Formode1> pelo, Ok thanks
[17:35] <wiehan> will: "cp -vp /target/* /source" copy all folders and files within source to the target - as opposed to just copying the files from the source.. someone told me to ommit the R from cp -vpR and use '*'
[17:35] <Pelo> lenswipe, we saw your quesiton but no one knows why that is ,  I made a new users last week and it worked fine
[17:35] <lenswipe> Formode1: i dont normally flood. Ire.m just trying to attract someones attention he
[17:36] <lenswipe> can someone help me with adding users please on ubuntu
[17:36] <fosco_> wiehan, you need -R to cp be recursive
[17:36] <Formode1> lenswipe, bad way to do it. Ask questions on one line, and don't spam.
[17:36] <bazhang> lenswipe, we saw it. dont repeat
[17:36] <wiehan> lenswipe: have tried google thoroughly
[17:36] <mahe1> lesnwipe, bad practice
[17:36] <lenswipe> its noot working properly
[17:36] <Pelo> lenswipe, this is a busy channel,  and we are just users like you , we do not know all the answers,  try the forum or google for mor help
[17:36] <lenswipe> Pelo: i have googled. Ive forum searched too...
[17:36] <white-sheep> wiehan, It don't work.  There are few commands and I tried them.  No luck.
[17:36] <Spasysheep> how do you find the (hdX,Y) number of a partition?
[17:36] <Pelo> lenswipe, different key words
[17:36] <Formode1> pelo, WHOA. In Gparted, the partition is coming up as HFS+, but in mac OS X it's coming up as NTFS.
[17:36] <wiehan> fosco_: but i used /source/* doesn't that mean to copy everything
[17:37] <fosco_> no
[17:37] <lenswipe> I cannto add users on ubuntu as its creting usrs with no home dir
[17:37] <Pelo> Formode1, might be an issue with macos then ,
[17:37] <bastid_raZor> Pelo; it appears flashgot is working for me, i'm still on 8.04 though
[17:37] <graingert_> hey
[17:37] <mahe1> Spasysheep, ls /dev/[sh]d*
[17:37] <wiehan> white-sheep: did you follow the steps contained in the readme files WORD FOR WORD with NO deviation?
[17:37] <mahe1> Spasysheep, or use gparted
[17:37] <Spasysheep> mahel: thanks
[17:37] <Formode1> pelo, Hm, Any way I can fix that?
[17:37] <rambo3> lenswipe, it might help if you posted more then that. How are you creating new users, any errrors in log ?
[17:37] <white-sheep> wiehan -- Yes.  I copied the commands and paste them in the terminal.  It was INSTALL.sh script.
[17:37] <Pelo> bastid_raZor, not flashgot , flashblock ,  stops flash from starting automaticaly
[17:38] <Spasysheep> mahel: gparted just tells me the sdaX number
[17:38] <cdpuk|laptop> Hi all, just installed 8.10 server and the network interfaces aren't coming up after installing (worked fine during install).  ifup fails with "rcv_packet failed: net is down".  Any ideas?
[17:38] <powertool08> lenswipe: if you've been doing it graphically, try adding users via cli, it gives you options on the path to the users home.
[17:38] <wiehan> white-sheep: ok, what errors did you receive?
[17:38] <graingert_> I have settup print sharing in ibex via samba, and it all works - but windows is requesting a network password for my ubuntu box.  I don't know this password, and I wanted it authless
[17:38] <Pelo> Formode1, not that I know of, but you now have something better to google with,   macos seening hfs as ntfs
[17:38] <HypnoGenX> WARNING: Unable to find provider 'gnome-wm' of required component 'windowmanger' - Aha. I'm guessing this is bad and the 'reason' why GNOME won't load for me, effectively freezing the PC?
[17:38] <lenswipe> rambo: im trying to create a single user, i go into the graphical user creation tool and type all neccecary details in making sure to tell it to create a home dir, but when i click add user no home directory is created....
[17:38] <Formode1> pelo, thanks.
[17:38] <fosco_> lenswipe, use gksu users-admin
[17:38] <Spasysheep> mahel: as does the command you gave me
[17:38] <pepparkaka> Any suggestions on what to do when apt is broken ?
[17:38] <Pelo> later folks
[17:39] <white-sheep> wiehan -- No target specified and no makefile found.  Stop.  No rule to make target 'install'.  Stop.
[17:39] <graingert_> !question | pepparkaka
[17:39] <lenswipe> fosco: im running it as root. It wont even let me into the add user menu if its not running as root, so i know thats alright, theres just a problem with ubuntu
[17:39] <Pici> lenswipe: What happens when you try to login as that user?
[17:39] <rambo3> lenswipe, try using adduser in terminal
[17:39] <white-sheep> wiehan -- Can you install this and confirm for me?  I think gFortune-1.0.2 may be borked.
[17:39] <wiehan> ok, were you in the SAME folder as all the files you extracted from the .tar file?
[17:40] <white-sheep> Pretty much, yeah.  wiehan.
[17:40] <wiehan> white-sheep: use cp /home/white-sheep/gfortune-whatever and follow the readme to the letter
[17:40] <Spasysheep> how do i fix /boot/grub/menu.lst so my windows install will boot?
[17:40] <mahe1> Spasysheep, convert yourself, hda1 is 0,0 hda3 is 0,2 hdc4 is 3,3
[17:40] <lenswipe> rambo3: if i just type adduser, will it create a home dir by default?
[17:41] <rambo3> lenswipe, try;  sudo adduser  somename
[17:41] <rambo3> and yes
[17:41] <graingert_> Spasysheep: you need to choose windows from the grub menu
[17:41] <Zarcom> hello
[17:41] <mahe1> Spasysheep, google for menu.lst
[17:41] <hischild> lenswipe, i can get in the users and groups just fine as normal user. It's just locked by default.
[17:41] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub Spasysheep
[17:42] <lenswipe> hischild: yeh thats what i mean :)
[17:42] <luckysky2> #gentoo-it
[17:42] <luckysky2> #debian-it
[17:42] <wiehan> white-sheep: 3 possibilities: you didn't follow the readme/ you weren't in the folder you extracted/ you didn't have the correct packages (unlikely -becuase it would have givven much different errors/ lastly problem with file or app .... ok thats 4
[17:42] <vesayth> Hello! I recently upgraded to 8.10 (32-bit) on my laptop. I stopped getting sound. When I go to Sound Preferences and hit test (the selected value is (ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture). When I hit Test, I get this error: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not get/set settings from/on resource. I get a similar error when trying the others, but it's slightly different for each one. 
[17:43] <raygreen> Hi, pretty new to Ubuntu here
[17:43] <graingert_> !question | raygreen
[17:43] <wiehan> vesayth: oh, there is a COMPLETE guide in the forums - I think this is a known bug (most likely)
[17:43] <wiehan> vesayth: search the forums..
[17:43] <vesayth> I have.. searched.. the forums
[17:44] <wiehan> vesayth: then you've missed it, I read it just 4 days ago
[17:44] <white-sheep> wiehan -- There are nothing in README.  Just bunch of legal and descriptions -- No instruction.  However, I looked at Install.  Now, that *was* a script.  I ran it.  It didn't work.  I'm looking for older version to resort back to.  Yes, I opened the terminal from that window.
[17:44] <vesayth> wiehan: The threads I have been reading on the issue did not provide a solution for me
[17:44] <raygreen> Where can I find help getting Wine to work on ubuntu 8.1
[17:45] <graingert_> !question | raygreen
[17:45] <vesayth> wiehan: Hence, why I came here
[17:45] <wiehan> white-sheep: & vesayth: I don;t know then
[17:46] <SimonTek> Wine to work? whats not working?
[17:46] <bazhang> raygreen, check the appdb and then #winehq
[17:46] <white-sheep> wiehan, Alright -- Thank.
[17:46] <raygreen> can't see the text on it
[17:46] <bazhang> !appdb > raygreen
[17:46] <Ward1983> are there daily builds of ubuntu 8.10?
[17:46] <white-sheep> Ward1983, No.
[17:47] <Ward1983> white-sheepso there is no way to get hold of a updated liveCD ? only the one with a old kernel is available?
[17:47] <hischild> Ward1983, get the minimal CD and install from there then.
[17:47] <white-sheep> Ward1983, You're welcome to try the Alpha -- http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/hardy/alpha4
[17:47] <Ward1983> hischild its not to install, its to make a persistent liveboot
[17:47] <lenswipe> rambo3: i just closed and reopened the graphical user settings and found that users i deleted earlier have been brought back
[17:47] <Pici> white-sheep: How is the alpha of Hardy going to help here?
[17:47] <white-sheep> Pici, He wanted the updated liveCD. ;)
[17:47] <Ward1983> white-sheep i was wondering teh same lol
[17:48] <rambo3> What ever I am off
[17:48] <ruso_> hello
[17:48] <rambo3> lenswipe, ask somone else
[17:48] <Ward1983> i allready made one with the regular ISO but the kernel is so old i thought i might make a new one, updated
[17:48] <xand_> hi folks, i can't run my applications with a different encoding in gnome-terminal nor linux terminal, as i can with konsole, can anyone please help me ?
[17:48] <lenswipe> rambo3: when i try and unlock the users thing now, it just says "unable to authenticate"
[17:48] <white-sheep> Ward1983, You should do what hischild said.   Use minimal cd and install everything from that point -- You'll get the latest updates from the good ol' servers.
[17:48] <Ward1983> is seems impossible to update the kernel
[17:49] <raygreen> bazhang, what is appdb?
[17:49] <Ward1983> oh wait... unetbootin supports netinst right?
[17:49] <hischild> !appdb | raygreen
[17:49] <white-sheep> Ward1983, You generally shouldn't make the kernel -- Ubuntu do that for you.
[17:49] <Ward1983> hischild do you know if unetobotin supports netinst?
[17:49] <jonty-comp> I don't know whether to install ubuntu on my new tablet PC
[17:49] <bazhang> raygreen, a listing for all the games etc usable in wine
[17:49] <jonty-comp> does it have any kind of advantages for tablets?
[17:50] <hischild> white-sheep, he just wants the latest kernel, not a home made one
[17:50] <hischild> Ward1983, i'm not sure.
[17:50] <Ward1983> white-sheep i said updating was not possible, i didnt say i "made" the kernel, or wanted to maek it
[17:50] <raygreen> I have checked, and some people mentioned using different versions, but these links are from 2005
[17:50] <Ward1983> hischild ill check, but i think it does, i never thought of that
[17:50] <raygreen> I used Wine before with Knoppix, but when I run it on Ubuntu I get no text showing on the tabs, so its like trying to drive blind
[17:51] <Cobalt> hi, sound works fine. but when i try playing sound in a browser, say, in a movie in the flash player, it just does not work. why?
[17:51] <ruler> What is this?
[17:51] <TJ-42> Hi, I've just turned on compiz, and everything works fine except firefox has really really slow tab opening and closing.  I am not using many compiz effects, I have a fast cpu and graphics card, and the latest nvidia linux drivers.  any ideas?
[17:51] <bazhang> ruler ubuntu os support channel
[17:51] <Ward1983> ruler a IRC channel
[17:51] <bazhang> ruler offtopic chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:51] <lenswipe> can someone please tell me how i can get ubuntu to let me add and delte users or does nobody actually know?
[17:51] <lenswipe> i cannot delete a user on my own system
[17:51] <lenswipe> the user just comes back
[17:52] <hischild> !enter | lenswipe
[17:52] <Mud> ok
[17:52] <Mud> then
[17:52] <lenswipe> hischild: im slightly wound up here, and for a good reason, the machine thats broken contains all of my coursework
[17:52] <Mud> I
[17:52] <Mud> Will go type like this :+
[17:52] <bazhang> !adduser > lenswipe
[17:52] <sikander> hello
[17:52] <lenswipe> bazhang: for the thirdtime, i know how to add users, ubuntu just wont let me
[17:53] <Ward1983> hischild yes it does support netinst, both 32 and 64 bit even :D:D:D
[17:53] <bazhang> lenswipe, repeating the way you are wont get it fixed.
[17:53] <ed0n0n> is wubi recommendable for a first time user?
[17:53] <sikander> can anyone send me a message
[17:53] <Ward1983> hischild thanx lol i never even thought of it
[17:53] <bazhang> ed0n0n, for a demo perhaps, better to try the livecd
[17:53] <lenswipe> bazhang: i delete a user, when i reopen the users window the user is still there.....
[17:53] <Flannel> lenswipe: Sounds like you've messed up sudo somehow, or removed your user from the sudoers.
[17:53] <garrett88> hey guys, my splash screen wont let the progress bar move unless I hold down my spacebar
[17:54] <garrett88> any ideas what it could be
[17:54] <lenswipe> Flannel: also when i create a user the user is created with no home dir
[17:54] <Flannel> lenswipe: How are you creating said users?
[17:54] <Ward1983> i'm probably being just retarded but where is the netinst CD?
[17:54] <Cobalt> i think i found out why. i guess putting the volume up would help with the sound. sorry guys. thanks. laters.
[17:54] <TJ-42> In Ubuntu 8.04, if I use something like compiz "group and tab windows", and then switch an item, the gnome taskbar appears empty for about half a minute, before finally being updated with the new taskbar items.  Any ideas why or what I can do?
[17:55] <bazhang> Ward1983, minimal or unetbootin
[17:55] <danielbw> I had to downgrade a couple of applications to hardy from intrepid
[17:55] <danielbw> how can I tell the update systemt hat I dont want thos applications updated?
[17:55] <mahel> lenswipe, try adduser username
[17:55] <mahel> danielbw, try aptitude
[17:56] <lenswipe> mahel: thats the thing, i want to create a user called mainr51, which i cant do until i delete the mainr51 that has no home dir, and for some reason ubuntu just wont let me do that
[17:56] <bazhang> danielbw, you used hardy repos to install on intrepid?
[17:56] <hischild> lenswipe, why not just edit that user you already have?
[17:56] <danielbw> bahzang, yes I had to downgrade rdesktop and xorg
[17:56] <lenswipe> hischild: i dont understand
[17:56] <mahel> lenswipe, deluser?
[17:56] <Flannel> danielbw: The easiest way is to use Synaptic, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Synaptic
[17:56] <bazhang> danielbw, that was a very unwise decision
[17:56] <lenswipe> mahel: ok ill try that
[17:57] <danielbw> bahzang, you should try to understand why before you pass judgement
[17:57] <bazhang> danielbw, you dont want to downgrade things
[17:57] <lenswipe> to tell the truth guys everything has been a bit fucked up since i installed xfce
[17:57] <fitzdsl> Hi,  i've got a problem to install ubuntu-xen-sever (i run intrepid), the install seems fine but it doesn't change my menu.lst,  i've got a xen-3.3.gz in /boot but it is the only file with xen reference,  i've got no initrd nor vmlinuz
[17:57] <Ward1983> i'm probably being just retarded but where is the netinst CD?
[17:57] <Flannel> lenswipe: please watch your language
[17:57] <Ward1983> cannot find it
[17:57] <bazhang> lenswipe, no need for that language
[17:57] <lenswipe> i apologise
[17:57] <Flannel> !minimal | Ward1983
[17:57] <bazhang> Ward1983, unetbootin or minimal
[17:57] <Ward1983> Flannelthanx
[17:58] <Ward1983> bazhang i meant the minimal yes :) sorry i thought it was just called netinst in ubuntu aswell
[17:58] <lenswipe> the thing is guys normally i would just re-install but i cant because the ubuntu machine contains my work
[17:58] <mahel> danielbw, apt can have priorities by package repository or name, search manuals
[17:58] <fitzdsl> does someone have an idea ?
[17:58] <danielbw> bahzang, please refer to this link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-177/+bug/296167/comments/50
[17:58] <Ward1983> bazhang ok this is confusing, unetbootin has options for 8.10 netinst, only the minimal is no netinst?
[17:59] <danielbw> this is what I followed and it works just fine
[17:59] <mahel> lenswipe, whad did deluser do?
[17:59] <bazhang> Ward1983, thus my question :)
[17:59] <Flannel> Ward1983: minimal CD is a net installer
[17:59] <lenswipe> mahel: i tried deluser, and it said that i cant delete the user because the user does not exist, yet i cant add a user with that name because a user with that name already exists!!
[17:59] <Ward1983> bazhang Flannel so unetbootin can only mean the minimal CD if it speaks of netinst right? jsut to make sure
[18:00] <Ward1983> in debian minimal and netinst are not the same iirc so its confusing
[18:00] <Flannel> Ward1983: netboot and netinst are different things
[18:00] <hischild> lenswipe, pastebin that output then, in a single post ... creating and deleting the user
[18:00] <danielbw> well why does ibex have such a nasty bug then?  xorg is not working right with xinerama and it's not xinerama and it's not just nvidia. It's xorg. Also rdesktop has a major problem with the caps lock
[18:00] <danielbw> these things worked perfectly in 8.04
[18:00] <lenswipe> hischild: sure thing, gimme a sec
[18:01] <Ward1983> Flannel ok so now i have "netboot" "netinst" and "minimal"
[18:01] <Ward1983> Flannel this gets more and more confusing
[18:01] <Flannel> Ward1983: you can feasibly boot any ISO from a netboot; it refers to booting method.  netinst is where you grab all of the packages from the interblags
[18:01] <jseagle> anyone knowledgeable on belkin pcmcia cards?
[18:01] <lenswipe> nvm guys adduser seems to work...
[18:01] <lenswipe> how can i check the users on the system with terminal?
[18:01] <Ward1983> Flannel so: the ubuntu netinst, where do i find it?
[18:01] <Flannel> Ward1983: That's the minimal CD
[18:01] <Ward1983> Flannel or IS it the minimal?
[18:01] <Ward1983> Flannel ah ok :)
[18:01] <Flannel> its 8mB, downloads all the packages from the internet
[18:02] <jseagle> ???
[18:02] <Ward1983> Flannel yes i was confused by its size i remembered a larger file for debian netinst (used it a few times)
[18:02] <Ward1983> Flannel thanx again for explaining :)
[18:02] <Flannel> Ward1983: no problem
[18:02] <Mickmeister> I'm currently having trouble obtaining audio when playing films (AVI format) in VLC media player. I have excellent video quality, it's just that I have no audio whatsoever. I have tried Googling for a solution to my problem, but can't seem to be able to find one. Running VLC from the terminal combined with a parameter to the path where the film is produces no errors whatsoever. Any ideas anybody? Any help would be gre
[18:02] <Mickmeister> atly appreciated, this is beginning to drive me crazy!
[18:03] <garrett88> !splash screen
[18:03] <garrett88> me neither...
[18:03] <Flannel> lenswipe: cat /etc/passwd
[18:03] <hischild> !usplash | garrett88
[18:03] <Mickmeister> lenswipe, how's it going Len?
[18:03] <michal_> hi
[18:03] <Slart> Mickmeister: there is a "show messages" menu item somewhere in vlc.. I don't know if those messages end up in the terminal or not
[18:03] <jseagle> !belkin PCMCIA
[18:03] <michal_> how to join to polish channel
[18:03] <FAJALOU> hi right now I am reinstalling 8.04.1. When I get to the partitioning, I go to manual partitioning, and set up the partitions how I want them.  But what happens if I tell the / directory not to format?  What will happen?  I know that with /home you can keep it without formatting, but what happens with / ?  Thanks
[18:03] <hischild> !pl | michal_
[18:03] <danielbw> nevermind i am locking the version in synaptic
[18:03] <Slart> Mickmeister: you might want to check that it isn't sending the audio to some kind of weird internal soundcard you've forgotten you had =)
[18:04] <bazhang> michal_, /j #ubuntu-pl
[18:04] <hischild> FAJALOU, will give you an error.
[18:04] <ikonia> FAJALOU: it needs to be formated
[18:04] <Luis_Byclosure> hi: http://byclosure.com
[18:04] <FAJALOU> hischild: ikonia ok thank you, but /home doesn't need to be correct?
[18:04] <bazhang> Luis_Byclosure, not here
[18:04] <ikonia> Luis_Byclosure: why are you posting that
[18:04] <jseagle> would like help with a PCMCIA card
[18:04] <hischild> FAJALOU, correct
[18:04] <ikonia> FAJALOU: correct
[18:04] <FAJALOU> hischild:  ikonia thank you.
[18:04] <Luis_Byclosure> upss.. wrong copy paste
[18:04] <Luis_Byclosure> sorry
[18:04] <lenswipe> how do i display the users currently allowed to login to my sytem?
[18:05] <Mickmeister> Slart, there's no weird internal sound card lol
[18:05] <RichiH> lenswipe: vim /etc/passwd
[18:05] <Ward1983> bazhang Flannel one more thing though: if i use the netinst, unetbootin will jsut make a regular install on my external disk, so i would be able to boot it on any system like with the liveCD?
[18:05] <ikonia> Luis_Byclosure what did you mean to copy and paste
[18:05] <ikonia> lenswipe: open the user admin gui and see the users
[18:05] <RichiH> lenswipe: they need a proper shell and a password hash in /etc/shadow
[18:05] <fitzdsl> no one
[18:05] <fitzdsl> ?
[18:05] <ikonia> Luis_Byclosure what did you mean to copy and paste
[18:05] <vatts> hi i have question about customising ubuntu
[18:06] <vatts> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-linux-mint-livecd-with-remastersys
[18:06] <Luis_Byclosure> ikonia: it was to a pvt
[18:06] <jseagle> help please?
[18:06] <Luis_Byclosure> i just wanted to say hi :)
[18:06] <vatts> i just install remastersys and then i just add/remove programs i want to and then it creates live cd?
[18:06] <Slart> Mickmeister: and it's the same thing with all movies?
[18:07] <Mickmeister> Slart, well I have tried a few. I don't have many movies to try and play. The ones I have tried are AVI format though.
[18:07] <jseagle> 01:00.0 Network controller [0280]: RaLink RT2760 Wireless 802.11n 1T/2R Cardbus
[18:07] <Slart> Mickmeister: is vlc set to use alsa? or pulseaudio?
[18:08] <jseagle> help please?
[18:08] <Mickmeister> Slart, it's set to use default. I have tried changing that setting to use OSS & Alsa and neither worked.
[18:08] <lenswipe> how do i show all users added on my system
[18:08] <lenswipe> nyone?
[18:08] <ikonia> lenswipe: open the user admin gui
[18:08] <CarlFK> If I want to change the hostname of a box, I need to change /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts - anything else?
[18:08] <ikonia> lenswipe: system -> administration -> users
[18:08] <Pici> CarlFK: Thats it
[18:08] <lenswipe> ikonia: thats screwed, how do i do it in terminal...
[18:09] <vbabiy> Does any one have dd and klogd start and kill one core dd (40%) and klogd(50%)
[18:09] <Slart> Mickmeister: if you open a terminal and run this "aplay /dev/urandom" do you hear the noise? (It might be loud if your sound really is working)
[18:09] <ikonia> lenswipe: why is that screwed ?
[18:09] <ikonia> lenswipe: what's the problem with it
[18:09] <CarlFK> lenswipe: cat /etc/users
[18:09] <vbabiy> I am not evern sure what they do
[18:09] <lenswipe> ikonia: i delete a user from there, and when i open it again the user is still there
[18:09] <ikonia> CarlFK: thas not correct
[18:09] <jseagle> how do i load drivers for wireless card?
[18:09] <ikonia> lenswipe: you can see the user password table by looking at /etc/passwd
[18:09] <king> I am trying to get voipcheap working with ekiga. But ekiga says registered accounts:0. Does that mean it is not accepting my voipcheap user details?
[18:10] <Mickmeister> Slart, I hear nothing and get "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:874:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[18:10] <Mickmeister> aplay: main:546: audio open error: Device or resource busy
[18:10] <Mickmeister> ".
[18:10] <CarlFK> doh... passwd... right
[18:10] <lenswipe> ikonia: k
[18:10] <Blatz> Hello, I installed phpmyadmin from Ubuntu's package manager, but no interfaces comes up when I to to "localhost"  Does anyone know what could be wrong?
[18:10] <Slart> lenswipe: displaying the users allowed to login and changing the list of users allowed to log on isn't the same thing..
[18:10] <ikonia> lenswipe: you should not try to edit that file
[18:10] <king> Blatz, localhost/phpmyadmin
[18:10] <jseagle> need help utilizing a PCMIA card
[18:10] <lenswipe> Slart: i know, what im saying though is i delete a user from the user admin GUI, but the user isnt deleted...
[18:11] <cristi> Blatz: make sure it is on, and also make sure you have the privileges to acces it
[18:11] <king> Blatz, localhost should say "It works!'
[18:11] <Blatz> king, thanks I forgot to mention that I tried that
[18:11] <Blatz> my apache server works
[18:11] <ick_> hi. Will a 5 year old Logitech WEbcam work in Ubuntu 8.10?
[18:11] <lenswipe> Slart: any ideas?
[18:11] <king> Blatz, your localhost should say It works!
[18:11] <jseagle> network troubles
[18:11] <king> Blatz, have you installed php?
[18:11] <king> !php
[18:11] <Slart> lenswipe: ah.. that's another problem.. I've never actually used more than one "regular user" on my linux box.. so no.. I have no idea
[18:12] <Blatz> king, it used to until I put my default index up
[18:12] <jeeez> hi, i need to know the version history of gcc tat was included/updated in ubuntu! is there some place i can check it:-\
[18:12] <Slart> Mickmeister: hmm.. done anything to your computer lately? moved pci cards around and such?
[18:12] <Blatz> king, I believe that is installed correcly as well, but I'll double check thanks
[18:12] <jseagle> !belkin
[18:12] <ikonia> lenswipe are you using the useradmin gui as a super usr ?
[18:12] <Mickmeister> Slart, not at all no.
[18:12] <jseagle> !F5D8013
[18:12] <vatts> someone tell me how do i modify with remastersys, does it just recompiles it back into CD/DVD what's currently on your disc?
[18:12] <Pici> !fishing | jseagle
[18:12] <vatts> jseagle: you need belkin support?
[18:12] <vatts> pm me^^
[18:13] <jseagle> yes please
[18:13] <jseagle> what is fishing?
[18:13] <Slart> ick_: perhaps.. it's hard to tell like that.. I think there is a list of working webcams somewhere on the net.. can't remember the url though
[18:13] <jseagle> nevermind
[18:13] <jeeez> jseagle: fishing?
[18:13] <ick_> Slart: the light on this thing glows but how do i test it?
[18:13] <russ_> how can I run a .bin file in linux? I'm trying to install adobe air with the included .bin file but I can't get it to install
[18:14] <Slart> Mickmeister: I'm not on friendly terms with alsa myself so I don't really know how to fix that problem.. have you googled for that error message?
[18:14] <jseagle> belkin F5D8013 V 3 when i run lspci -nn to find PCMIA card this i swhat i get::
[18:14] <jseagle> 01:00.0 Network controller [0280]: RaLink RT2760 Wireless 802.11n 1T/2R Cardbus
[18:14] <Slart> ick_: run something like cheese or camorama
[18:14] <jseagle> but i cant use it to navigate the internet etc
[18:14] <Blatz> king, cristi : libapache2-mod-php5 is installed, and the server works, but nothing comes up with "localhost/phpmyadmin"
[18:14] <ick_> Slart: thanks .. will check it out in another terminal
[18:14] <Slart> ick_: sudo apt-get install cheese
[18:15] <Slart> !info cheese | ick_
[18:15] <vatts> !remastersys
[18:15] <vatts> :<
[18:15] <cristi> Blatz: so, let me see if i got it right, it used to work, until you modified the index ?
[18:15] <vatts> anyone help me with remastery
[18:15] <Blatz> cristi, no phpmyadmin never worked on this machine
[18:15] <vatts> how do they work?
[18:15] <vatts> :<
[18:15] <bazhang> !remaster > vatts
[18:15] <king> Blatz, could you try to put the test.php file as detailed in the guide to see if php works?
[18:16] <cristi> Blatz: can you tell me the others persmissins to htdocs?
[18:16] <Blatz> king, sure I'll test to see if php is working
[18:16] <Blatz> cristi, let me have a look
[18:16] <vatts> bazhang: ok but how do they work?
[18:16] <ick_> Slart:  libv4l2: error dequeuing buf: Input/output error
[18:16] <Slart> russ_: first the file need to be marked as "executable", you can do that in nautilus or in a terminal (chmod a+x) then you just type ./filename.bin in a terminal and it should run.. or double click it
[18:17] <durka> who wants to help me debug xdmcp
[18:17] <Slart> ick_: try googling for that error message.. it might just not work with linux or it might be a configuration issue
[18:17] <jeeez> hi, how can i check updates history in the main repo?
[18:17] <bazhang> vatts, check out uck, it is quite easy to use (ubuntu customization kit)
[18:18] <Formode> Hello, Anyone know why if I make a partition with gparted on my drive, that mac OS for some reason can't reformat it properly?
[18:18] <vatts> ah thanks bazhang
[18:18] <ikonia> Formode: what do you mean properly ?
[18:18] <cristi> jeeez: try system -> administration -> system log but those are just major changes i think
[18:18] <tk3> hi all - I can't get an rt2500usb wifi stick to work at "G" speed: entering "iwconfig wlan1 rate 48M auto" stil leaves the interface at 5.5M. signal, harware etc. is fine - thoughts?
[18:18] <jeeez> cristi: i just want to know wen gcc4.2 was updated to gcc 4.3x
[18:19] <ikonia> jeeez: why does it mater ?
[18:19] <ya> how do i get youtube to work on fresh install
[18:19] <Formode> ikonia, it does to reformat it, and stops, (I'm trying to make it HFS+) but when I reselect it on mac OS, it still says FAT32. >> Gparted says it's HFS
[18:19] <cristi> jeeez: can't you reach it an just see when it was last modified?
[18:19] <ick_> Slart: Slart : i only found the link - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam#Intrepid/Updated%20Hardy%20current%20issues%20with%20webcams
[18:19] <ikonia> Formode: I've never heard of that
[18:19] <jeeez> ikonia: it makes my project not work, [see http://www.cyrius.com/journal/2007/05/10#gcc-4.3-include ]
[18:19] <Formode> ikonia, it's so weird.
[18:20] <russ_> Slart: I'm done what you said, it is still not installing however
[18:20] <ikonia> jeeez: again so why does the date it changed matter ?
[18:20] <jeeez> ikonia: because my program used to compile, doesn't anymore
[18:20] <ikonia> jeeez: either fix it for gcc4.3 compatability, or put a note that it only works with 4.2
[18:20] <ikonia> jeeez: yes, I understand that, but how does the date it changed  make it start working ?
[18:21] <nathan> i have gw running on ubuntu but the graphics are acting up, anyone know why?
[18:21] <Flannel> jeeez: Intrepid has 4.3, Hardy has 4.2
[18:21] <ikonia> Nasra: gw ?
[18:21] <jeeez> ikonia: am not particularly smart, so if the date matches [the last time i compiled the program], i can be sure the problem is gcc's and not a mistake i made!
[18:21] <Guest70032> guild wars sorry
[18:21] <Slart> russ_: no error messages, no results at all?
[18:21] <vatts> bazhang: however, do remastersys work like that: you add/remove programs and it does reverse engineering - it packs ubuntu into CD/DVD?
[18:21] <Flannel> jeeez: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/g/gcc-defaults/gcc-defaults_1.62ubuntu3/changelog and http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/g/gcc-defaults/gcc-defaults_1.74ubuntu2/changelog
[18:21] <jeeez> Flannel: awesome! just what i needed, thanks
[18:22] <Slart> ick_: that might be the one.. hard to remember now..
[18:22] <ikonia> thats crazy, they are two different versions
[18:22] <emilien> installing seconds linux os , how i part-ion , what risks are there ?
[18:22] <jeeez> ok, so in theory, if i remove gcc 4.3, 4.2 takes over rite?
[18:22] <ikonia> emilien: managing grub is awkward without a shared /boot partition
[18:22] <russ_> Slart: no I don't get an error messeage....
[18:23] <Blatz> king, php is working on the server
[18:23] <Blatz> cristi, I changed the permissions of the htdocs to 777 and still no change
[18:23] <Slart> russ_: well.. then there's not a lot I can do
[18:23] <Guest70032> i have guild wars installed but the graphics ar acting up, anyone know why?
[18:23] <cdpuk|laptop> Anybody know why a network interface works fine in the server installer, but not after rebooting?  r8169 shows in ifconfig -a but can't bring it up. Thanks.
[18:23] <Flannel> jeeez: No, if you remove 4.3, you don't have gcc anymore
[18:23] <Formode> Installing a MAC OS parititon so I can tri boot, having issues with the installation because I can't get a partition formatted right, gparted won't do HFS+, and disk utils (Mac) won't reformat correctly. :-/
[18:23] <emilien> ikonia,  i unfortunately don't have shared boot parttion still possible ?
[18:23] <chairman> anybody knows how to get debian OS?
[18:24] <russ_> Slart: I've even right clicked on the .bin and selected properties and changed the permission to allow ececuting file as program..still it will not install
[18:24] <bazhang> chairman, sure
[18:24] <ikonia> emilien: possible, but more difficult to manage
[18:24] <Slart> chairman: google couldn't help you with that?
[18:24] <Flannel> chairman: debian.org has links, but this really belongs in #debian not here.  Thanks.
[18:24] <cristi> jeeez: i don't know if i am right or not but i guess you can look into /usr/bin there you shold find the executable to your gcc version. You can see when it was last modified..
[18:24] <bazhang> chairman, better to ask in #debian though
[18:24] <Blatz> king, do you know where the phpmyadmin config file is?
[18:24] <Slart> chairman: I would start with www.debian.org
[18:24] <papillon81> hi there. I need to boot from an usb key. I followed this guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html  The installer starts, when I select "Install" I see the "Loading initrd.gz and after that the machine just restarts. any hints?
[18:24] <cristi> Blatz: uhm i just asked you what were the permisions on others
[18:24] <roosel> who here knows that google crawls your emails and then sales then information about you that they find
[18:24] <roosel> and that you agreed to it upon accepting
[18:24] <sekyourbox> What is the diff between xterm and the regular terminal?
[18:24] <Flannel> roosel: #ubuntu-offtopic for non-Ubuntu topics, thanks.
[18:24] <Guest70032> i have guild wars installed but the graphics ar acting up, anyone know why?
[18:25] <Slart> roosel: there are lots of people in #ubuntu-offtopic that doesn't know.. go tell them.. quick
[18:25] <bazhang> roosel, the folks in #ubuntu-offtopic (ie not here)
[18:25] <Formode> I have gparted and HFSProgs, but it gparted won't let me create or anything HFS partitions, anyone know?
[18:25] <ikonia> Guest70032: if your using wine you may find it better in #winehq
[18:25] <Blatz> cristi, well, now they are all the same.  ;)
[18:25] <Guest70032> ikonia, ok thank you
[18:25] <russ_> Slart: when I double click to install I get " Cound not display "/home/russ/Desktop/adobe.bin".
[18:25] <_wall> I'll think about it
[18:25] <ikonia> Formode: dont ask every minute, give it a chance for new people to come to the channel
[18:25] <xand_> hi folks, i can't run my applications with a different encoding in gnome-terminal nor linux terminal, as i can with konsole, can anyone please help me ?
[18:25] <roosel> ok so if you get 10 lines of spamming saying dont talk off topic... in response to my 1 line whats the real problem
[18:25] <Formode> ikonia, I just figured out something new, but sorry.
[18:25] <emilien> ikonia,  if i make gparted live and resize are there any dangers of wiping drive by accident ?
[18:25] <Slart> russ_: oh.. so you *do* get an error message
[18:25] <ikonia> emilien: yes
[18:25] <cristi> Blatz: and that is...? you should be the owner of the file, and others should have read only or acces files permisions
[18:25] <bazhang> roosel, means you should take it there.
[18:26] <emilien> ikonia,  any safer ways of doing it ?
[18:26] <russ_> Slart: not in the terminal
[18:26] <Flannel> roosel: Your real problem isn't appropriate for this channel.
[18:26] <hischild> Can a program break out of a VM?
[18:26] <ikonia> emilien: no
[18:26] <ikonia> hischild: no
[18:26] <emilien> ikonia,  damn =)
[18:26] <Blatz> cristi, I am the only user of the pc so permissions don't matter too much.
[18:26] <Slart> russ_: can you pastebin the output from ls -l where this file is located?
[18:26] <jeeez> Flannel: i have both g++ 4.2 and 4.3 installed [green in synaptic], even now if i take 4.3 off, its gonna take gcc as a whole off?
[18:26] <Slart> !pastebin | russ
[18:27] <cristi> Blatz: it did yo me. I had them by default "noone"
[18:27] <Flannel> jeeez: No.  But you can have themboth installed, and tell gcc to use 4.2... I'm just not savvy on the speciics
[18:27] <ya> how do i get youtube to work on fresh install
[18:27] <russ_> Slart: sure :)
[18:27] <jeeez> Flannel: how about removing it all off, and then installing just 4.2?
[18:27] <cristi> Blatz: and that was not right... however, what does it say whe you acces localhots with your browser?
[18:27] <Slart> russ_: you can add the part where you try to run it from the terminal too
[18:28] <chairman> the last time i had it it was sent to me or something...but when i go to the site i don't know what to download
[18:28] <clearzen> I upgraded to 8.10 last night and since then whenever I try to load the nvidia driver I get this error in the xorg logs. EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device PCI:2:0:0 Any ideas?
[18:28] <russ_> Slart: sure
[18:28] <bazhang> chairman, the ubuntu disk?
[18:28] <Blatz> cristi, well this basically comes up http://gwc.dyndns.info:28962/beacon2/gwc.php
[18:28]  * g8tor says hello all
[18:28] <chairman> ?
[18:28] <Blatz> cristi, and it tells me that php is working
[18:28] <ikonia> g8tor: then say hello instead of using /me commands
[18:28] <andy_> hey every wan
[18:29] <Slart> !ne
[18:29] <Slart> !nl
[18:29] <g8tor> ikonia: got it
[18:29] <chairman> i already used the CD to install this
[18:29] <bazhang> chairman, install what
[18:29] <rmurphy> Could someone please help me diagnose this gpp error? I was trying to install docvert: http://pastebin.com/f4979e6c7
[18:29] <Blatz> cristi, also, I was adding the port earlier when trying to bring up phpmyadmin, but I exlucded from telling, you to uncompicate matters  ;)
[18:30] <russ_> Slart: http://pastebin.com/d1a4f7837
[18:30] <chairman> 8.10 ibex and no debian
[18:30] <g8tor> I just installed 10.1 but none of mu usb devices will automount. Am I missing something?
[18:30] <Pici> g8tor: 10.1?
[18:30] <bazhang> g8tor, 8.10?
[18:30] <g8tor> oops
[18:30] <Pici> g8tor: SuSe?
[18:31] <AJC_Z0> In gnome, where do I go to rename workspaces (Desk 1, Desk 2, etc.) when using compiz? I've looked around, read the help and searching the web but found nothing but questions (e.g. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=854067 )
[18:31] <g8tor> bazhang:  yes sorry looking at something else. Yes 8.10
[18:31] <Blatz> cristi, still there?
[18:31] <clearzen> what is the kernel option to allocate more virtual memory at boot vmalloc?
[18:31] <AJC_Z0> How do I change only the search in /etc/resolv.conf when DHCPing with Network Manager?
[18:31] <Slart> AJC_Z0: where do you even see what the workspaces are called?
[18:31] <cristi> Blatz: i don't see yout problem, i can see just fine the link you gave me. if you want to acces phpmyadmin try localhost/phpmyadmin.php or whatever that is
[18:31] <cristi> Blatz: what does it say when you try that?
[18:31] <Blatz> cristi, you should be able to bring it up too.
[18:31] <rmurphy> Could someone please help me diagnose this gpg error? I was trying to install docvert; here is the error message: http://pastebin.com/f4979e6c7
[18:32] <Formode> Does anyone know how to reformat a FAT32 partition to an HFS+ partition in parted?
[18:32] <DefunctProcess> how can i tell what I'm downloading? conkys says im downloading at 500kbps but i dont think im downloading anything
[18:32] <Blatz> cristi, I get nothing
[18:32] <g8tor> Pici: No ubuntu (i was reading something and types the wrong version)
[18:32] <Blatz> cristi*
[18:32] <carrerasg> Can someone tell me how I can pass a module option to 3c59x at boot?  I tried using a file in modprobe.d but it doesn't sem to work.
[18:32] <Slart> russ_: and what happens if you type "./adobe.bin" in that same terminal?
[18:32] <AJC_Z0> Slart: The switcher in a panel and the "Move To Another Workspace" dropdown menu from window title bars
[18:32] <_sound_> Hello every body!! I just get a HP dv5. And trying to get my sound working, I`m newbie in linux. Can somebody can help me? Appreciate any help! Thanks!
[18:32] <cristi> Blatz: nothing, as in blank?
[18:32] <Blatz> cristi, yes http://datz.homelinux.com:28962/phpmyadmin
[18:32] <Slart> AJC_Z0: ahh.. never noticed that before..you've looked in the compiz config thingy?
[18:33] <russ_> Slart: :) wow that worked, what was I dong wrong?
[18:33] <Slart> russ_: no idea
[18:33] <cristi> Blatz: i am getting a page not found error. that is something
[18:33] <Blatz> well, yes
[18:33] <russ_> Slart: thank you. have a nice day
[18:33] <Blatz> sorry,
[18:33] <Slart> russ_: you too
[18:33] <AJC_Z0> Slart: Depends what thingy. Presume not, since I have a default 8.10 install and there isn't really a compiz thingy readily available
[18:34] <Blatz> crisit, so php is installed, and working, phpmyadmin is installed but not working.
[18:34] <jose> hate linux
[18:34] <_sound_> lol
[18:34] <ikonia> jose: don't use it then
[18:34] <rmurphy> What does this error mean: Fetched 190B in 0s (233B/s)
[18:34] <rmurphy> Reading package lists... Done
[18:34] <rmurphy> W: GPG error: http://docvert.org etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY AAB0E0D1F4B68080
[18:34] <rmurphy> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[18:34] <Formode> Does anyone know how to reformat a FAT32 partition to an HFS+ partition in parted?
[18:34] <FloodBot3> rmurphy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:34] <_sound_> Hello every body!! I just get a HP dv5. And trying to get my sound working, I`m newbie in linux. Can somebody can help me? Appreciate any help! Thanks!
[18:34] <Slart> !ccsm | AJC_Z0, here's the thingy.. lots of options in there
[18:34] <rmurphy> crap: I thought I copied the link...
[18:34] <ikonia> Formode: I don't think gparted can mark a hfs file system
[18:34] <cristi> Blatz: now, make sure you get the others permision on htdocs (->properties->permisions->others) to acces files, and apply that to enclosed files
[18:35] <Formode> ikonia, Gah.
[18:35] <ikonia> Formode: you just want a blank partition for macos to put a file syssm on
[18:35] <Blatz> cristi, ok
[18:35] <rmurphy> What does this error mean: http://pastebin.com/f67e672b4
[18:35] <jose> hate linux users again
[18:35] <Formode> ikonia, yes. But the mac OS disk utils won't format things right for some reason
[18:35] <ikonia> Formode: yup, I undersstand that
[18:35] <Formode> ikonia, so how would I go about that? Do you know? :O
[18:36] <ikonia> Formode: I don't know why mac OS isn't writing to the partition
[18:36] <ikonia> Formode: you may want to ask ##apple or ##macos how to debug mac os
[18:36] <ikonia> Formode: what model mac is this ?
[18:36] <Formode> ikonia, me neither, it's not coming up. Thanks
[18:36] <cristi> rmurphy: did you try "apt-get update" ?
[18:36] <AJC_Z0> Slart: Thank you. The last time I touched compizconfig-settings-manager or something similar, I broke workspaces in a new and exciting way
[18:36] <rmurphy> cristi - that was the result of apt-get update...
[18:36] <Formode> ikonia, it isn't a mac. :-P
[18:37] <AJC_Z0> but simple-ccsm sounds interesting
[18:37] <g8tor> How can I get automount to work for my usb devices on 8.10
[18:37] <rmurphy> cristi - after a long line of updates
[18:37] <ikonia> Formode: then don't ask it's illegal to run mac os on non-apple hardware
[18:37] <_sound_> can somebody help me with sound~? thx
[18:37] <Slart> AJC_Z0: =)... I didn't find anything useful in there.. but I didn't look too hard
[18:37] <Formode> I'm asking how to format an hfs+ partition, nothing more.
[18:37] <cristi> rmurphy: i don't know then.. sorry
[18:37] <rmurphy> cristi: thanks anyways
[18:37] <ikonia> Formode I'm telling you not to
[18:38] <Formode> ikonia, Alright then, that's nice of you.
[18:38] <ikonia> Formode: thank you
[18:38] <_sound_> Hello everybody!! I just get a HP dv5. And trying to get my sound working, I`m newbie in linux. Can somebody can help me? Appreciate any help! Thanks!
[18:39] <rmurphy> What does this error mean (and how do I fix it): http://pastebin.com/f67e672b4
[18:39] <rmurphy> seen causeitsme?
[18:39] <linux841> Sorry, I haven't seen causeitsme.
[18:39] <KenT808> Why in ubuntu begins lags after 10 minutes of work
[18:40] <Slart> AJC_Z0: I found one thread where someone claimed that if you disabled compiz and used metacity to rename the workspaces the names stuck when you started compiz again.. sounds clumsy but it's all I could find
[18:40] <KenT808> i open only kvirc and qutim and sometimes firefox
[18:41] <KenT808> Does anybody know?
[18:41] <chairman> hello .. look if you don't want to help just say so
[18:41] <_sound_> right
[18:41] <TVdee> chairman: Need help ?
[18:41] <_sound_> TVdee: i do
[18:42] <TVdee> closer: issues your mind ?
[18:42] <zero-cool> i was making update today i can't remove mozilla extenzion
[18:42] <_sound_> sound for me
[18:42] <chairman> yes please.  I'm trying to get debian OS on ubuntu . i had it before w/o goingto the site itself
[18:42] <closer> can anyone tell me how to install Flash to Xubuntu?
[18:42] <zacharyburns> I need help mounting an image in Ubuntu...My 5MB linux image is at http://www.burnssoftware.com/test/test.bin - but mount refuses to mount it
[18:42] <TVdee> _sound_: didnt ask you but shoot
[18:42]  * vatts kicks himself in face
[18:42] <TVdee> never do that :)
[18:42] <Pici> chairman: Can you rephrase that?
[18:43] <_sound_> TVdee: i see, sorry
[18:43] <TVdee> Go!
[18:43] <Omoikane__> How do you hide/unhide files in ubuntu?
[18:43] <_sound_> ctrl+h Omoikane__
[18:43] <Pici> Omoikane__: Files that start with a period are concidered hidden.
[18:43] <chairman> how can I get Debian w/o going to their website . i had it before
[18:43] <rmurphy> What does this error mean (and how do I fix it): http://pastebin.com/f67e672b4
[18:43] <Pici> chairman: /join #debian and ask, we do not support that here.
[18:43] <chairman> their site doesn't tell me anything
[18:43] <AJC_Z0> Slart: I saw that and have previously found that to be untrue. compiz uses the X11 screen differently from typical WMs, so unless there is new glue I doubt that trick will work (though I may try it)
[18:44] <TVdee> Nboy ?
[18:44] <closer> can anyone tell me how to install Flash to Xubuntu
[18:44] <chairman>  how do i do that?
[18:44] <TVdee> closer: why this xubuntu -- difference ?
[18:44] <AJC_Z0> closer: There is a Flash 10 package in the repository (or whatever software sources are called). Search for it in the package manager
[18:45] <closer> okz
[18:45] <Pici> chairman: type this in your irc client: /join #debian
[18:45] <clearzen> AJC_Z0: I actually keep getting a md5 mismatch with that package
[18:45] <zero-cool> closer sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[18:45] <TVdee> chairman: Get debian onto ubuntu - use vmware - As Commercial youre killing them, im sure
[18:46] <vatts> TVdee: i recommend VBox
[18:46] <zero-cool> closer or  sudo apt-get install flashplugin
[18:46] <AJC_Z0> clearzen: I had no such problem installing in on 8.10 recently. Try a different package source
[18:46] <TVdee> chairman: I will advice not doing so (or Vbox as watts say.. still...)
[18:46] <Lillymon> I'm trying to mount an external USB hard drive, and I'm not having much luck. The command looks good as far as I can see, but I get a "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock". I know the filesystem is right. Is there something else I could try or is this HD really not going to mount?
[18:46] <Omoikane__> is there something for ubuntu that is equivalent to the desktop icon container in KDE4?
[18:46] <Flannel> chairman: /join #debian
[18:46]  * _sound_ needs sound help :(
[18:47] <TVdee> Flannel: IrUstream.. howto work on debian ?
[18:48] <Lillymon> "sudo mount /dev/sdc /mnt/ext -t ext3" is the command. It seems correct to me.
[18:48] <ASULutzy> Lillymon: Are you sure the file system is right? :)
[18:48] <clearzen> Lillymon: you probably need a partition number on /dev/sdc
[18:48] <Omoikane__> it seems to make alot of sense and I would like to add it to my desktop.
[18:48] <ASULutzy> Lillymon: After you fdisk'd it, did you remember to makefs it?
[18:49] <TVdee> Damnit, i knew i should have accepted the google work thing
[18:49] <TVdee> Anyone from google here ?
[18:49] <ikonia> TVdee: this is an ubuntu support channel only
[18:49] <ASULutzy> !ot | TVdee
[18:49] <TVdee> Go self evaporate
[18:50] <Lillymon> This is actually an old HD in an external enclosure, I know the filesystem was made correctly, it has two partitions (one root, one /home). The PC it was in died after a severe impact though, so I'm uncertain whether it even WORKS any more.
[18:50] <bazhang> TVdee, that is not necessary
[18:50] <Omoikane__> is there something for ubuntu that is equivalent to the desktop icon container in KDE4?
[18:50] <zacharyburns> running 'file test.bin' just shows data file, but using a hex editor I see 'Uncompressing Linux...' and other interesting stuff
[18:50] <TVdee> bazhang: to taketh a 1000 blowhards eh ;)
[18:50]  * _sound_ cant believe.. nobody can help me :`(
[18:51] <ikonia> zacharyburns: it's a binary file, run the file
[18:51] <TVdee> _sound_: show the issue
[18:51] <_sound_> TVdee: no sound/drivers - noth
[18:51] <_sound_> nothg*
[18:51] <TVdee> _sound_: show the issue
[18:51] <_sound_> what u mean? TVdee
[18:51] <TVdee> _sound_: Computer/brand etc ?
[18:51] <_sound_> thats the issue - no sound
[18:52] <_sound_> hp dv5 TVdee
[18:52] <zacharyburns> ikonia: says can't run - I think it's a Linux image - I should be able to mount that - right?
[18:52] <TVdee> _sound_: and then what ? .. 479123 ?
[18:52] <kjs> yo, cisco vpns on ubuntu?
[18:52] <kjs> pita or?
[18:52] <TVdee> _sound_: "I have a box and it sucks ass... tell me whats wrong" :P
[18:52] <sankalp> hi everyone
[18:52] <_sound_> HP Pavilion dv5-1118eo TVdee
[18:52] <sankalp> to:kjs
[18:53] <sankalp> :kjs
[18:53] <jshriver> Greetings
[18:53] <kjs> ?
[18:53] <jshriver> how can you modify what is listed under the Applications Pulldown?
[18:53] <TVdee> _sound_: google: "hp Pavilion 1118"
[18:53] <TVdee> sound
[18:53] <Pici> jshriver: Right click on the top of the menu and go to edit menus.
[18:53] <ASULutzy> jshriver: Right click applications and hit edit menu
[18:53] <Pici> !enter
[18:53] <sankalp> :kjs please help me making debian package of python file
[18:53] <bazhang> TVdee, that is not helpful
[18:53] <psicobra> hi guys i have an interesting problem i think ubuntu is only using one core of my cpu i have done uname -r and i have the smp kernel and when i type cat /proc/cpuinfo i get http://pastebin.com/m5e94d2d7 it seems to only list 1 cpu
[18:53] <TVdee> _sound_: Someone should smack you for beeing this silly
[18:53] <jshriver> ty
[18:54] <Flannel> sankalp: Try #ubuntu-motu
[18:54] <bazhang> TVdee, please stop
[18:54] <jshriver> picked up a new Dell mini with Ubuntu, man this thing is sweet
[18:54] <_sound_> TVdee: nothing much to see about... tried for two days now..
[18:54] <Pici> !packaging > sankalp
[18:54] <sankalp> :ubottu where is it
[18:55] <psicobra> does any one agree
[18:55] <Pici> sankalp: Read the private message it sent you
[18:55] <sankalp> ok
[18:55] <ASULutzy> psicobra: That very clearly says you have 2 CPU's?
[18:56] <psicobra> ok i just read the thing properly and yes it lists 2 cpu's but only ever seems to use one
[18:56] <student> anyone have experience writing udev rules? I'm having a bit of trouble writing one that works
[18:56] <Slart> ASULutzy: I think there ought to be one section starting with processor: 1, then processor: 2 etc etc
[18:56] <psicobra> systems can get quite sloe esp when downloading via azureus and watching a high def movie
[18:56] <ASULutzy> Slart: It says Processor 0: Processor 1:
[18:56] <Slart> ASULutzy: oh.. nevermind me.. I'm just blind today
[18:56] <ASULutzy> :)
[18:57] <psicobra> Slart, i missed it first glance to
[18:57] <psicobra> it only seems to use the one core
[18:57] <ASULutzy> psicobra: azureus?
[18:57] <psicobra> yeah
[18:57] <ASULutzy> psicobra: They make that for Linux?
[18:58] <psicobra> yeah called vuze now
[18:58] <psicobra> is in repository
[18:58] <AJC_Z0> Slart: Installed simple-ccsm and played around with the compiz settings. I've got some new fancy effects, had my workspaces scrunched to four a few times, but found nothing about workspace names
[18:58] <dennister> hey, ppl, firefox is almost crippled here: when you type anything into the firefox url bar, or the Google search bar, a small icon/window with an 'F' in the titlebar shows up in the middle of firefox, and absolutely nothing happens until you close it
[18:58] <Slart> AJC_Z0: hmm.. neither did I.. perhaps they just forgot that setting
[18:58] <psicobra> wow FloodBot1 spazing out
[18:58] <combo> how can i figure out witch version of kubuntu I have ?
[18:58] <ASULutzy> psicobra: Eh, I only use rtorrent :) How are you verifying only using one core? If you want to test that your system actually is using two, you could open two terminals and have each do "md5sum /dev/urandom"
[18:58] <ASULutzy> psicobra: and then check top
[18:59] <dennister> anyone seen it/know about it/know the fix?
[18:59] <mib_sdguzan> hey guys i have a wireless issue
[18:59] <Slart> AJC_Z0: there are a few posts about it if you google for it.. but no solutions, that I've found
[18:59] <bazhang> !version > combo
[18:59] <mib_sdguzan> anyone good with that sort of stuff with ubuntu?
[18:59] <ASULutzy> !ask | mib_sdguzan
[18:59] <Slart> !wifi | mib_sdguzan
[18:59] <mib_sdguzan> i have a hp dv5t with a software wireless button
[18:59] <mib_sdguzan> i've read all those my rf killswitch or something like that
[19:00] <psicobra> ASULutzy, yeah that maxed out both cores
[19:00] <mib_sdguzan> the card is recognized but cannot be turned on
[19:00] <psicobra> what did it do
[19:00] <ASULutzy> psicobra: Told your machine to calculate the hash of a never ending sequence of numbers. Twice
[19:00] <ASULutzy> psicobra:  :)
[19:00] <nathan__> i need help on guild wars graphics issue, i have it running but the graphics are acting up. anyone know why?(tried #winehq but could not find anything)
[19:00] <sankalp> ubottu: i am not getting it right
[19:00] <ASULutzy> psicobra: ctrl+c to kill the processes to get things back to normal
[19:00] <psicobra> lol
[19:00] <dennister> anyone seen this firefox-disabling problem?
[19:01] <Solarium> ps,
[19:01] <Lillymon> Alright, dmesg seems to have narrowed down my list of possibilities. The last three lines all read "EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock", which correspond nicely to my three mount attempts. Linux can see the drive, but can't recognize the file system. What now?
[19:01] <mib_sdguzan> so anyone know how to fix the rf killswitch info?
[19:01] <sankalp> ubottu: i want to make debian package of single python file
[19:01] <Cobra_Girl> quick question
[19:01] <psicobra> my torrent speeds seem crap lately dunno why
[19:01] <Cobra_Girl> does anyone know how to save my network settings so I don't have to reenter the password for the router every time I log on?
[19:01] <dennister> psicobra: u being throttled by your isp maybe?
[19:01] <ASULutzy> Lillymon: There are some good data recovery tools available, though I'm not actually sure which the "best" is
[19:01] <psicobra> dennda, yeah all the time but not at the moment
[19:01] <rmurphy> What does this error mean (and how do I fix it): http://pastebin.com/f67e672b4
[19:01] <thinker_> meareweird letmetalk
[19:02] <psicobra> dennister, even
[19:02] <nathan__> i need help on guild wars graphics issue, i have it running but the graphics are acting up. anyone know why?(tried #winehq but could not find anything)
[19:02] <sankalp> i want to make debian package of single python script please help me
[19:02] <combo> bazhang: thx :)
[19:02] <ASULutzy> rmurphy: etch? This is #ubuntu not #debian?
[19:02] <ikonia> nathan__: #winehq is the best wine upport channel
[19:02] <psicobra> nathan__, ati card?
[19:02] <LekkSak> bazhang: I think you are a little microsoft whore.
[19:02] <sankalp> i have written text editor
[19:02] <ikonia> nathan__: be aware that not all games/hardware work in wine
[19:02] <mib_sdguzan> anyone?
[19:02] <ikonia> LekkSak: please don't
[19:02] <Lillymon> ASULutzy: Fantastic, I had a feeling I'd be at this point sooner or later. So where do I start with data recovery tools?
[19:02] <LekkSak> ikonia: Upstream is now upset
[19:03] <dennister> psicobra: even what?
[19:03] <bazhang> LekkSak, that language is not called for
[19:03] <nathan__> psicobra, nvidia
[19:03] <mib_sdguzan> anyone?
[19:03] <LekkSak> ...
[19:03] <thinker_> just installed xubuntu over ubuntu much nicer lighter and faster
[19:03] <wire42> I've sure you've heard this before, but my broadcom wifi (BCM4318) doesn't work out of the box in ubuntu
[19:03] <wire42> what's the best way to fix this?
[19:03] <psicobra> message was ment for you i sent it to some 1 else
[19:03] <dennister> anyone seen this firefox-disabling problem?
[19:03] <LekkSak> bazhang: To say sorry ?
[19:03] <ikonia> LekkSak: you wher asked to control your attitude as tvdee - please stop
[19:03] <mib_sdguzan> i have a intel 5100 agn wireless card that is recognized by ubuntu but i can't figure out how to turn it on
[19:04] <ASULutzy> Lillymon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery has some good stuff... I'm not really an expert on this though so feel free to ask a bit more in the channel
[19:04] <mib_sdguzan> its always disabled
[19:04] <jim_> load Broadcom driver www linux wireless.com
[19:04] <dennister> "f" windows shows up in middle of firefox and forces you to close it?
[19:04] <sankalp> i want to make debian package of single python script please help me
[19:04] <sankalp> i want to make debian package of single python script please help me
[19:04] <sankalp> i want to make debian package of single python script please help me
[19:04] <FloodBot3> sankalp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:04] <onetinsoldier> hello all!
[19:04] <bazhang> !packaging > sankalp
[19:04] <ASULutzy> wire42: Google feistynofluff
[19:04] <wire42> thanks _jim looks like the native driver bcm43xx just isn't going to work for me
[19:04] <sankalp> :ubottu i am not getting that link right
[19:04] <wire42> I'll look at the site
[19:04] <sankalp> i don't understand that
[19:05] <bazhang> !packaging | sankalp
[19:05] <LekkSak> ikonia: a bit of respect if that bazhang of dev/null
[19:05] <mib_sdguzan> intel 5100 wireless on a hp dv5t can anyone help me?
[19:05] <orifice_work> is there a way to force dictate an order for mounts in fstab ?
[19:05] <ASULutzy> wire42: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[19:05] <psicobra> thanks all
[19:05] <orifice_work> I have a bind mount that depends on a previous mount to be completed before it can be successful
[19:05] <ASULutzy> wire42: And you're sure the Broadcom proprietary STA driver doesn't work?
[19:05] <jim_> do you know which chipset your card has?
[19:05] <Photoguy> ubbotu
[19:05] <sankalp> i opened that link but couldn't understand it
[19:05] <Photoguy> !help
[19:06] <mib_sdguzan> c'mon guys this is the ubuntu channel is there no one here who can help me get my wireless card powered on
[19:06] <dmartinez> un canall en español
[19:06] <bazhang> !es
[19:06] <ikonia> !es > dmartinez
[19:06] <mib_sdguzan> there isn't a hardware switch its just a touch button that stayes off
[19:06] <sankalp> his is the ubuntu channel is there no one here who can help me get my wireless card powered on
 un canall en español
[19:07] <bazhang> mib_sdguzan, what chipset
[19:07] <mib_sdguzan> intel 5100 agn
[19:07] <bazhang> mib_sdguzan, how many entries in ifconfig
[19:07] <sankalp> please help me in making debian package from python program
[19:07] <mib_sdguzan> theres wlan0 and wmaster0
[19:07] <sankalp>  please help me in making debian package python program
[19:07] <mib_sdguzan> but i also have eth0
[19:07] <bazhang> sankalp, read the links and stop repeating
[19:07] <Lamo> Anyone know why flash video maxes out the cpu and turns firefox grey along with skipping the video when its not frozen?
[19:08] <sankalp> i dn't understand after reading links
[19:08] <bazhang> mib_sdguzan, open or encrypted
[19:08] <mib_sdguzan> open
[19:08] <sankalp> please say me steps
[19:08] <LjL> sankalp: it's not something trivial.
[19:08] <bazhang> sankalp, then you need to take some more time reading them
[19:08] <LjL> sankalp: and it cannot really be reduced to steps.
[19:08] <tonyyarusso> sankalp: There's no way you read those links already.  They take at least a few hours to get through, and you were just given them a moment ago.
[19:08] <bazhang> sankalp, repeating here every two seconds wont get it solved
[19:09] <wire42> oh sorry, I'm reading the linuxwireless.org page for their new b43 drivers
[19:09] <sankalp> what is the use of channel just to say links
[19:09] <wire42> my wifi is  Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[19:09] <sankalp> stop this channel then
[19:09] <bazhang> mib_sdguzan, what does sudo dhclient wlan0 return (paste.ubuntu.com with the output) NOT here
[19:09] <ASULutzy> wire42: and what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[19:09] <LjL> !attitude | sankalp
[19:09] <carrerasg> How can I turn off checksum offloading on my network card at boot time?
[19:09] <regeya> skandalp: lolwhut
[19:09] <ruhaan_jslip> is there a tool like netmeter for ubuntu?
[19:09] <mib_sdguzan> do you know how i could turn on rf killswitch or whatever?
[19:10] <sankalp> if u don;t have time then don't reply my answer
[19:10] <oldskool> #ps3
[19:10] <bazhang> mib_sdguzan, from the front of the computer
[19:10] <ASULutzy> ruhaan_jslip: Not sure what netmeter does, but iftop might be helpful?
[19:10] <mib_sdguzan> because i don't have any hardware wifi button its a little touch button
[19:10] <regeya> skandalp: the people here can't tell you how to make a package right away, so this channel is worthless...giving you a lecture on selfishness and patience is OT, so I won't
[19:10] <mib_sdguzan> no no its like those touchy light up buttons
[19:10] <tonyyarusso> ruhaan_jslip: There are numerous network monitoring tools available, but you'll have to try a few to find out what meets your own needs.
[19:10] <wire42> I've got one of those little blue buttons mib_sdguzan
[19:10] <ruhaan_jslip> ASULutzy: its a tool to monitor bandwidth its a windows
[19:10] <wire42> but it's not blue :(
[19:10] <mib_sdguzan> the play pause, mute volume fast forward and rewind buttons work
[19:10] <ruhaan_jslip> anything with a GUI is fine for me
[19:10] <mib_sdguzan> but the wifi doesn't work at all
[19:10] <wire42> so, no wifi for me
[19:11] <bazhang> mib_sdguzan, please try the command I suggested and paste the results
[19:11] <sankalp> thanks a lot this channel
[19:11] <ASULutzy> ruhaan_jslip: Oh, iftop is from command line, but it's pretty cool, I'd suggest checking it out
[19:11] <wire42> mib_sdguzan: wonder if we have a similar issue
[19:11] <mib_sdguzan> maybe
[19:11] <onetinsoldier> ruhaan_jslip: what if it's not a gui?
[19:11] <mib_sdguzan> i always come back to something about rf killswitch
[19:11] <ASULutzy> wire42: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[19:11] <mib_sdguzan> but i don't know what that is
[19:11] <ruhaan_jslip> i just need something that is easy to use
[19:11] <oldskool> anyone could help me with a ps3
[19:11] <regeya> sankalp, you are funny
[19:11] <J-Malmsteen> !awesome
[19:11] <oldskool> im on ubuntu 8.10
[19:11] <J-Malmsteen> !awsome
[19:12] <ASULutzy> wire42: Because for me on Intrepid, my broadcom card worked out of the box, Intrepid installed the Broadcom STA proprietary drivers
[19:12] <LjL> !botabuse | J-Malmsteen
[19:12] <regeya> play us a scale J-Malmsteen
[19:12] <jim_>  the broadcom drivers are resrtcted,have to be installed manually Look for hardware drivers in your menu
[19:12] <onetinsoldier> ruhaan_jslip: iptraf is easy to use...  netmrg, is not.  but i cannot say that i've ever used netmrg
[19:12] <J-Malmsteen> ok :D arpeggios from hell :D
[19:12] <LjL> regeya, don't instigate
[19:12] <J-Malmsteen> regeya: :D
[19:12] <sankalp> :regeya i think u have my answer
[19:12] <ruhaan_jslip> thnx onetinsoldier
[19:12] <onetinsoldier> ruhaan_jslip: you're welcome :-)
[19:12] <oldskool> well I know how to install stuuf using the repo's.. i dont know the locations to get them though. i would like to get the rsxps3 kernel using the repo method
[19:12] <bazhang> J-Malmsteen, please /msg ubottu
[19:12] <wire42> ASULutzy: do you have the same card I do? I think mine is specifically goofed up and doesn't work with the driver built into Intrepid
[19:12] <oldskool> is it possible?
[19:13] <regeya> hooray!  I'm glad to hear that, sankalp; I truly am. :-)
[19:13] <etyrnal> does anyone here know if Ubuntu 8+ Workstation will run on a Dell Dimension 2350 Celeron ?
[19:13] <wire42> I've seen a lot of complex guides to fixing this, like ndiswrapper
[19:13] <josh> does anyone know how to get youtube to work on ubuntu?
[19:13] <mib_sdguzan> bazhang do you have any ideas of what i can do?
[19:13] <Alexia_Death> Wheres the channel for Jaunty?
[19:13] <wire42> but just wondering the best way to get the best working driver
[19:13] <Pici> Alexia_Death: #ubuntu+1
[19:13] <Alexia_Death> hi.
[19:13] <sankalp> :regeya so is there any solution
[19:13] <Alexia_Death> Pici: thanks.
[19:13] <regeya> !ubuntu+1 > Alexia_Death
[19:13] <bazhang> mib_sdguzan, please run the command I suggested and paste.ubuntu.com with the output
[19:13] <student> anyone have experience writing udev rules? I'm having a bit of trouble writing one that works
[19:13] <minus18_pundit> can anyoone help me with me "aptoncd"
[19:14] <sankalp> regeya: i am a newbie
[19:14] <mib_sdguzan> im sorry i missed the command
[19:14] <mib_sdguzan> can you post it again
[19:14] <ASULutzy> wire42: I think that my other laptop has that card, and I think the Broadcom STA driver worked for it, What jim_ said above, if not there's always ndiswrapper and that "feisty no fluff" guide I mentioned
[19:14] <etyrnal> the Dell has Intel 845GL chipset
[19:14] <bazhang> mib_sdguzan, pay attention: sudo dhclient wlan0
[19:14] <etyrnal> and Intel 3D Extreme
[19:14] <regeya> sankalp: how should I know; I've never packaged anything for debian :-/  sorry, but this isn't a channel of devs + sankalp.  there are many guides online to creating debs though.
[19:14] <darph`> how do i disable "auto eth0" connection from connecting on start up? i really don't want to use auto ip configuration. even if i disable from connection manager at the next reboot it's back on with auto ip configuration
[19:14] <dede> ciao
[19:15] <LjL> !it | dede
[19:15] <adityag> what do we mean by upload in BINARY MODE & ASCII MODE ???
[19:15] <vatts> lmao
[19:15] <vatts> ^^
[19:15] <CharonP1> Why does Wubi download the 64 bit version on my machine. I have and amd64 but run 32 bit windows, and only have 512 MB of ram.
[19:15] <minus18_pundit> everytime i start aptoncd , hit the create button, it calculates something and then crashes
[19:15] <AJC_Z0> Slart: As I mentioned in my original question, that's exactly what I found. It seems too obvious a thing for it to be unknown (in a userbase sense)
[19:15] <Pici> vatts: Its not funny to laugh at other peoples questions.
[19:15] <vatts> Pici: it was not laugh
[19:16] <regeya> sankalp: I don't know if it's pertinent to your program, but if you're just wanting dpkg to handle it, and if it works for that, checkinstall can manage some software...basically if it can be installed with a make install it can usually be handled by checkinstall
[19:16] <vatts> i was agreeing that it's stupid to have it at all
[19:16] <virgo1143> hehe
[19:16] <hwilde> adityag, http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/geocities/gftp/gftp-15.html
[19:16] <wire42> ASULutzy: broadcom's STA driver on their site says it's only compatible with "Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware." I've got a BCM4318
[19:16] <minus18_pundit> can anyoone help me with me "aptoncd"
[19:16] <Flannel> !anyone | minus18_pundit
[19:16] <minus18_pundit> everytime i start aptoncd , hit the create button, it calculates something and then crashes
[19:17] <wire42> ubottu: at least it's not "can I ask a question" ;)
[19:17] <josh> does anyone know how to get youtube to work on ubuntu?
[19:17] <virgo1143> google knows
[19:17] <virgo1143> :P
[19:17] <wire42> probably flash is missing
[19:17] <LjL> !flash > josh    (josh, see the private message from ubottu)
[19:17] <Pici> virgo1143: Thats not helpful.
[19:17] <ASULutzy> wire42: Yes, but there's also an issue of misidentification on one of the 43xx cards, and I thought it was 4318, again if STA doesn't work, use that "feisty no fluff" guide and use ndiswrapper
[19:17] <virgo1143> add/remove adobe flash
[19:17] <eseven73> minus18_pundit: there is a filed bug about aptoncd and crashes, bug number #272509 look it up on https://bugs.launchpad.net/aptoncd
[19:17] <virgo1143> simple
[19:18] <ASULutzy> wire42: Basically you'll just need to install ndiswrapper and ndisgtk(makes it easier) and then point ndisgtk towards the correct Windows driver for your card
[19:18] <sankalp> :regeya ok i will research on checkinstall now
[19:18] <jim_> If Ubuntu sees your card it will have Drivers for it,but you have to enabletmem thru hardware Driver in the menu
[19:18] <CharonP1> the same way you get flash working in windows. install flash player
[19:18] <LjL> !checkinstall > sankalp    (sankalp, see the private message from ubottu)
[19:18] <josh> i've down loaded the flash player  for ubuntu but the computer says its the wrong architecture
[19:18] <ASULutzy> wire42: Yea, I would check System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers, and if that doesn't work, that feisty no fluff guide is good
[19:18] <sankalp> send me once more i couldn't get it
[19:18] <LjL> josh: you're on 64-bit?
[19:19] <minus18_pundit> is there any alterntive for aptoncd?
[19:19] <CharonP1> flash player is made for 32 bit arch's you will have to go in a it of a circle to get it working on 64
[19:19] <sankalp> probleme here
[19:19] <LjL> !checkinstall | sankalp
[19:19] <josh> yes
[19:19] <LjL> !flash64 | josh
[19:19] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  <-- sankalp
[19:20] <wire42> ASULutzy: ah hardware drivers looks promising
[19:20] <wire42> there's my card! :)
[19:20] <D3JAVU> hi all
[19:20] <jim_> Happy Daze
[19:21] <D3JAVU> :)
[19:21] <D3JAVU> hi all Ubuntu likers :)
[19:21] <minus18_pundit> is there any alterntive for aptoncd?
[19:22] <wire42> ok, so now that the proprietary driver is installed, do I need to reboot?
[19:22] <ASULutzy> minus18_pundit: What exactly are you trying to do?
[19:22] <D3JAVU> yes reboot it
[19:22] <wire42> ok here we go
[19:22] <wire42> thanks
[19:22] <ASULutzy> wire42: You might not have to, check network manager in the top right
[19:22] <mib_sdguzan> bazhang i just pasted it
[19:22] <Fritz87> hi guys, what is the best open source IM client that has multiple profiles?
[19:23] <redrebel> what is the best command line IRC client in ubuntu?
[19:23] <CharonP1> am I in the right channel for wubi?
[19:23] <minus18_pundit> i've been trying to make a repository dvd of the packages i've downloaded
[19:23] <clearzen> I've "upgraded" from 8.04 to 8.10 and my nvidia drivers are broken. I've managed to get them to load according to the logs. However I still can only run in low graphics mode using nv drivers. Any ideas?
[19:23] <ASULutzy> Fritz87: pidgin ?
[19:23] <deepfriedsuqirre> Could fsck mess up the data on a partition?
[19:23] <clearzen> redrebel:  bitchx
[19:23] <powertool08> redrebel: I like irssi
[19:23] <ASULutzy> deepfriedsuqirre: ... If mess up means destroy, then yes
[19:23] <ASULutzy> Oh fsck!
[19:23] <ASULutzy> I thought you said fdisk
[19:23] <deepfriedsuqirre> ASULutzy: awwww
[19:24] <OpenSores> my machine keeps freezing. just before it last froze i had a look in top and it reported that privoxy was using 100% of CPU and Xorg was using 103% of CPU at the same time... any ideas what could be happening?
[19:24] <arquebus> redrebel: mutt or alpine is the best
[19:24] <deepfriedsuqirre> ASULutzy: haha, I thought you were making a joke about the name :P
[19:24] <CharonP1> I think it's made to be too easy, there should be an "Advanced" tab for things like selecting architecture. it automatically uses the amd64 iso.
[19:24] <D3JAVU> i wont bay harware how can help my !!!
[19:24] <clearzen> so is there known problems with nvidia drivers when upgrading?
[19:24] <eseven73> !clone | minus18_pundit
[19:24] <mib_sdguzan> bazhang are you still around?
[19:24] <bazhang> mib_sdguzan, need the url
[19:25] <ASULutzy> deepfriedsuqirre: fsck tries to fix busted file systems, so I think you might be looking at it wrong? What I'm saying is, your file system was probably hosed up and fsck tried to fix it... What seems to be the problem  you're experiencing?
[19:25] <D3JAVU> i wont bay harware how can help my !!!
[19:25] <mib_sdguzan> sorry
[19:25] <mib_sdguzan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/87974/
[19:25] <Fritz87> What packages would you guys reccomend for someone who records a lot of music, are there any special programs?
[19:25] <lengm0> lengm0
[19:25] <Pici> CharonP1: It may be best to file a bug or a brainstorm entry for that, rather than mentioning it here and having it get lost in the channel.
[19:25] <bazhang> D3JAVU, what?
[19:25] <Pici> Fritz87: Look into the ubuntustudio-audio metapackage
[19:25] <deepfriedsuqirre> ASULutzy: I'm recovering data with testdisk and I plan to run fsck on a broken filesystem. I just need to know the likelihood of doing any more damage or making recovery harder.
[19:25] <D3JAVU> i wont new hardware how can i bay it
[19:26] <deepfriedsuqirre> I must say, I'm very impressed by the capabilities of this testdisk.
[19:26] <bazhang> ##hardware D3JAVU
[19:26] <Ward1983> if the ubuntu "create usb stick" program does not work unetbootin would be the next best thing right?
[19:26] <CharonP1> Pici: Ok. I'll give that a look into. was just wondering if anyone knew of an aurgument that could be passed to wubi.exe that would change anything. thanks anyway.
[19:26] <OpenSores> D3JAVU: money can be used to buy hardware
[19:26] <ASULutzy> deepfriedsuqirre: You could always make an image of the disk before you do anything
[19:26] <virgo1143> getting a job helps
[19:27] <D3JAVU> :) and what hard you recomend me
[19:27] <onetinsoldier> Ward1983: i would think so, yes
[19:27] <OpenSores> D3JAVU: A hammer.
[19:27] <virgo1143> lol
[19:27] <eseven73> lol
[19:27] <D3JAVU> :) 50 %
[19:28] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 mib_sdguzan please check on how to associate the ap
[19:28] <mib_sdguzan> did you take a look bazhang? http://paste.ubuntu.com/87974/
[19:28] <mib_sdguzan> ok thanks
[19:28] <bazhang> !offtopic
[19:28] <mib_sdguzan> im gonna go try that
[19:28] <mib_sdguzan> lets hope ill have it fixed
[19:28] <mib_sdguzan> be back later if it doesn't work
[19:28] <bazhang> take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[19:28] <virgo1143> good luck :)
[19:28] <cetanhota> from the shell, what would be the best way to move files that have a year of 2006 to another directory?
[19:28] <Ward1983> unetbootin wont elt me choose a partition, only a drive :s
[19:29] <deepfriedsuqirre> ASULutzy: Not really; I'm 16 and I havn't got another hard disk. I'm also too embarrassed to order one because of the horrifically cringey yet true 'I told you so' my father would rub in my face :P. Unless it would be possible to fit it on another bit of the hard disk I don't have wanted lost partitions on without making data recovery hard for other areas of the hard disk.
[19:30] <ASULutzy> deepfriedsuqirre:  Well, fsck probably won't make it worse, but if it's hosed it's hosed
[19:30] <Las_> I cannot get this: http://busview.org/busview_launch.jsp to work right in mozilla 3.0.5 on 8.10.
[19:30] <Las_> Which java package should I try?
[19:30] <gringosuperstar> I am having probz with scrolling on Xubuntu...I am a new comer to Ubuntu and Linux
[19:31] <deepfriedsuqirre> ASULutzy: Hmm, maybe I'll check it isn't missing its boot superblock first. I read how to recover that, you see.
[19:31] <deepfriedsuqirre> Thank you.
[19:32] <roosel> if i want to restore something from the trash how do i do it ?
[19:32] <onetinsoldier> Ward1983: yeah, unetbootin works though. it will copy makke a bootable usb stick. but it does want to put all data at the front of the usb stick. after that, you can put data on the remainder of the usb stick i believe
[19:32] <OpenSores> roosel: the trash can usually be opened with an icon in the bottom-right of the taskbar
[19:32] <wiretapt> anyone here like crunchbang
[19:32] <roosel> OpenSores I have it open just dont see a way to restore items
[19:33] <smahmood> Hi all...
[19:33] <onetinsoldier> hi
[19:33] <ASULutzy> roosel: right click the file you want to restore and hit restore from the drop down
[19:33] <tim_ora> so i'm curious. has anyone gotten ati drivers working with dual monitors?
[19:33] <Las_> I installed "default-jre" but it still doesn't work
[19:33] <smahmood> can anyone tell me a good channel to go, if I'm looking for help with developing apps for ubuntu?
[19:33] <tim_ora> because the internet pretty much says a big no.
[19:33] <OpenSores> I don't have a restore button on my trash, I have to copy them back manually
[19:33] <roosel> ASULutzy you would assume there is a restore option however in 8.04 I do not see one
[19:33] <roosel> how would i do this manually ?
[19:34] <roosel> go to the original folder and remove the .trash ?
[19:34] <roosel> or is there a place it puts the files
[19:34] <onetinsoldier> smahmood: perhaps #ubuntu-devel? or maybe it's #ubuntu-dev, not sure
[19:34] <eseven73> !Trash
[19:34] <smahmood> onetinsoldier: i'll try them out, thx
[19:34] <ASULutzy> roosel: I'm on 8.10, but I thought the option is still there... Are you sure that while actually having the trash open, and right clicking on a file in there, there isn't a restore option? The trash location is ~/.local/share/Trash
[19:34] <nomis1804> hi, i have a quick question about ubuntu. i am planning on giving this laptop to a family member that knows almost nothing about computers, i'm a little hesitant to install linux as in my experience sometimes things just stop working for no good reason and it is a pain to fix (this is fedora i'm talking about btw). Is it a good idea to just give this laptop and expect everything to continue working ok for the next few years? btw it is 
[19:35] <roosel> ASULutzy im positive
[19:35] <roosel> ASULutzy no worries i will do it manually
[19:35] <ASULutzy> roosel: Yea, inside the Trash folder I mentioned, there's a files folder and an info folder, the info files have the deletion time and location
[19:36] <ASULutzy> But that's weird that isn't available to you
[19:36] <eseven73> nomis1804: that is an impossible request for ANY distro or OS
[19:36] <wiretapt> nomis: ubuntu might be the better way to go for a new person to linux
[19:36] <wiretapt> since it has synaptic
[19:36] <ASULutzy> nomis1804: There are no guarantees, but I've installed Ubuntu on my fiance's eeepc, and she loves it and hasn't had any problems
[19:36] <nomis1804> eseven73
[19:37] <Flannel> nomis1804: Install 8.04, that's supported until 2011 on the desktop (April of 2011), with a new LTS version coming out in April of 2010
[19:37] <nomis1804> sorry, i mean in comparison to windows which does just work
[19:37] <wiretapt> yeah ubuntu has had the longest uptime of any of the distros i put on my eeepc
[19:37] <roosel> is move file mv ?
[19:37] <ASULutzy> nomis1804: er, if I was giving a computer to someone who was computer illiterate, I would give them a linux box
[19:37] <eseven73> roosel: yes
[19:37] <ASULutzy> a Windows box == they get tons of malware/spyware/get their personal info stolen
[19:37] <lutxo> hello
[19:37] <wiretapt> yeah seriously
[19:37] <nomis1804> true
[19:37] <roosel> mv ~/.local/share/Trash/filename ~/someotherfolder
[19:37] <wiretapt> linux is spyware free
[19:37] <wiretapt> and more virus safe than windows
[19:38] <wiretapt> theres approx less than 1000 viruses for linux
[19:38] <wiretapt> windows has 10s of thousands
[19:38] <lutxo> chat is your name?
[19:38] <wiretapt> if not more including other types
[19:38] <nomis1804> ok well thankyou, i'll give it a go then :)
[19:38] <AlexCBoca> I am having no success setting up remote spooled printers with Ubuntu 8.04.  It appears that a firewall or something like one is blocking incoming lpd (port 515) requests before they ever get to the local spooler.
[19:38] <ASULutzy> wiretapt: I don't know of any virus in the wild for Linux... I mean sure I could write any sort of stupid code that would do dumb stuff in a user's home folder
[19:38] <lutxo> !!!!!!!!!!
[19:38] <lutxo> what is your name ?
[19:39] <wiretapt> yeah i read that on some stupid blog where the guy was trying to give a windows vs linux battle
[19:39] <ASULutzy> wiretapt: But nothing is going to take over the system in the way that a Windows virus can... Mandatory Access Control ftw
[19:39] <AlexCBoca> Is there a way to enable incoming lpd requests on an Ubuntu 8.04 system.
[19:39] <rtu34241> ASULutzy: and it would only run as that user
[19:39] <wiretapt> i guess you could LET someone fuck up your machine if you deliberately gave them access
[19:39] <redrebel> how come there is no bitchx package in aptitute
[19:39] <wiretapt> the root thing is key
[19:39] <wiretapt> i mean windows has no root system
[19:39] <Ward1983> unetbootin wont let me choose a partition, only a drive, and i allready have partitions on it i do not want to loose :s
[19:39] <Ward1983> any suggestions?
[19:39] <roosel> well it has administrator...
[19:40] <wiretapt> adminstrator is nothin! lol u jokin
[19:40] <rtu34241> wiretapt: it has, but no one uses it. most windows users work with administrator rights...
[19:40] <Pici> wiretapt: Please watch your language here.
[19:40] <ASULutzy> To be fair, Windows has started to become more truly multiuser
[19:40] <Pici> !offtopic
[19:40] <wiretapt> pici: sorry
[19:40] <wiretapt> i'm not going to get started on vista
[19:40] <wiretapt> my bad
[19:40] <ASULutzy> But yea, offtopic for sure, point being, if you want maintenance free, Ubuntu is pretty close, that's why I put it on the fiance's eeepc
[19:40] <wiretapt> i'll go to offtopic
[19:41] <ASULutzy> She doesn't have to know how to do anything, she can click to open a browser, or a word processor, etc, when it tells her there are updates, she gets them, no big deal
[19:41] <tsrk> is a text based install possible with a standard cd?
[19:41] <Fritz87> what's a good presentation tool for someone used to powerpoint, is impress the best/easiest to get used to?
[19:41] <karbo> Anyone on here running Spotify on Wine and having issue with playback stopping now and then and the Wine processes have the "Waiting channel" set to "pipe_wait"?
[19:41] <AlexCBoca> I am having no success setting up remote spooled printers with Ubuntu 8.04.  It appears that a firewall or something like one is blocking incoming lpd (port 515) requests before they ever get to the local spooler.Is there a way to enable incoming lpd requests (port 515) on an Ubuntu 8.04 system?
[19:41] <Las_> http://busview.org/busview_launch.jsp <-- I need this to run under 8.10, can anyone give me a hand to figure out why it won't? thanks
[19:42] <Pici> karbo: You may want to ask in #winehq, as they can provide support for running specific apps under wine.
[19:42] <ASULutzy> And she doesn't have to worry about viruses, or malware, spyware, lolfacebook worms, etc... So I'd say, sure, throw Ubuntu on it, I'd say the curve actually goes something like, very very computer noobish users should use Ubuntu, then the "I have some common sense and need my Outlook 2007 for work" people I'd say need their Windows, and then from there Linux ftw :)
[19:42] <OpenSores> is there any known problems with ubuntu that causes it to freeze when file system encryption is used?
[19:42] <karbo> Pici: thank you
[19:42] <roosel> ASULutzy whats an lolfacebook worm never heard of those
[19:43] <Las_> I'm running Mozilla 3.0.5 and default-jre 1.6-30 but it won;t load
[19:43] <Besogon> OpenSores: you alone :)
[19:43] <Bodsda> OpenSores, couldnt find anything in a quick google
[19:43] <wiretapt> facebook apps arent monitered too closely
[19:43] <ASULutzy> roosel: I sorta made it up, but there was actually a facebook worm recently that spread through a really stupid scheme. It would post on people's walls with like, "LOL AMG FUNNY VIDZ!" and if you went to it it would be like, "hai, u need new flash" and it would install some malicious stuff if you ran it
[19:43] <OpenSores> I've had two different computers, both with ubuntu and both have freezed up constantly
[19:43] <Bodsda> wiretapt, there not really ontopic here either
[19:43] <thebloggu> i use ubuntu 8.10 and removed pulseaudio in order for mpd to work but now, i hear a background noise. even though it is not too loud it is annoying. what maybe causing it ? (btw, sound in sonata (mpd client) can't be controlled from the client, just from the os. think it may show some problem)
[19:43] <wiretapt> well god he asked
[19:44] <Pici> wiretapt, ASULutzy, roosel: Can we please move this chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:44] <AlexCBoca> I am having no success setting up remote spooled printers with Ubuntu 8.04.  It appears that a firewall or something like one is blocking incoming lpd (port 515) requests before they ever get to the local spooler.Is there a way to enable incoming lpd requests (port 515) on an Ubuntu 8.04 system?
[19:44] <wiretapt> yes sir
[19:44] <\Kira> Im trying to download a game that only has downloads for linux generic or debian. I know its debian I should choose, but then it asks me for etch or lenny? Im not sure what to select If I run ubunut...
[19:44] <OpenSores> thebloggu: is it white noise?
[19:45] <Flannel> \Kira: which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[19:45] <Bodsda> AlexCBoca, assuming iptables is the firewall you may want to check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[19:45] <thebloggu> OpenSores, what do you mean ?
[19:45] <ASULutzy> \Kira: You could just do Linux generic and compile the source, shouldn't be too hard
[19:45] <\Kira> Flannel: kubuntu 8.04
[19:45] <OpenSores> thebloggu: what is the noise like?
[19:45] <apo_> \Kira: I'd take lenny
[19:45] <lavagolemking> I'm having difficulty with the touchpad in a Dell XPS.
[19:45] <\Kira> ASULutzy: THat was going to be my second choice
[19:45] <thebloggu> OpenSores, just like when you listen to radio
[19:45] <nomis1804> ASULutzy: thanks for all the info, im definitely confident enough that ubuntu is the right choice now
[19:46] <ASULutzy> nomis1804: No problem, and tell her she can always come back to #ubuntu for help ;)
[19:46] <OpenSores> So white noise then.  Is is constant or intermittent?
[19:46] <Bodsda> \Kira, i believe etch is the stable debian release
[19:46] <\Kira> apo_: okay, thanks. If it doesnt work well Ill just compile from source :)
[19:46] <thebloggu> OpenSores, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8119ceec8f1ebc342593fb9f6e39d54645a25cb1 alsa-info output
[19:46] <shams> how can i install AssaultCube in ubuntu?
[19:46] <Bodsda> \Kira, i might be wrong, -- either should work though
[19:46] <Flannel> \Kira: Go with lenny.  It's closest to what you've got (of course, that doesn't mean it will work)
[19:47] <\Kira> Bodsda, Flannel: okay thanks. Ill try lenny, if it doesnt work ill just compile it from source.
[19:47] <OpenSores> thebloggu: Is the noise constant or intermittent?
[19:47] <thebloggu> OpenSores, constant
[19:47] <Flannel> !checkinstall | \Kira
[19:47] <ASULutzy> shams: Download it and install it from http://assault.cubers.net/download.html ?
[19:47] <lunakrist> I'm trying to make ChessDB and ld is exiting with "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lz".  I'm assuming I'm missing a library or something but can't figure out what... anyone got any ideas?
[19:47] <AlexCBoca> Bodsda - iptables -L shows policy ACCEPT in Input, Forward and Output - Does that mean nothing is being blocked by iptables?
[19:47] <Photoguy> !help
[19:48] <OpenSores> thebloggu: do you have a wireless internet connection?
[19:48] <tim_ora> has anyone gotten dual monitors to work with ATi drivers?
[19:48] <Bodsda> AlexCBoca, i think so -- sorry i dont know much about iptables
[19:48] <thebloggu> OpenSores, yes
[19:48] <Bodsda> shams, try here -- http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=AssaultCube
[19:48] <AlexCBoca> I may be on the wrong track with the firewall theory - I have tried everything that hwas worked for years to set up a remote print queue.  Usually it's pretty basic.
[19:49] <BillyJoe> How would I use the Ubuntu live boot cd to search he hard drive of a system to remove malware?
[19:50] <AlexCBoca> In my local office I set up a printer on 10.1.1.1 called lp19. I can print to it easily from 10.1.1.19. I have my router set to redirect port 515 to 10.1.1.1. Then in the remote office I created a printer called alex and pointed it at the public ip of my router (the one in my local office).
[19:50] <Odd-rationale> Hey guys! I'm trying to help a friend with his resolution. it worked in hardy. but in intrepid, it is too small (800x600). I've gone through the wiki, but no matter what i do, it won't work. http://pastebin.com/f6337f765 any ideas? Thanks!
[19:50] <wiretapt> malware on a ubuntu system?
[19:50] <OpenSores> thebloggu: try moving the antenna and cables away from the speaker cables... might be interference from that
[19:50] <Bodsda> BillyJoe, you would boot the live cd, install an anti virus removal program, mount the infected drive, scan and disinfect
[19:51] <BillyJoe> Bodsda thank you.
[19:51] <berkbw> ver irc.indynet.org
[19:51] <AlexCBoca> So in the remote office it looks like 'alex lpd://204.121.224.23/lp19
[19:51] <ASULutzy> Odd-rationale: And of course you did try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg ?
[19:51] <AlexCBoca> This should just work.
[19:51] <thebloggu> OpenSores, dont think so because with previous versions of ubuntu that didn't happen and everything else was in the same place
[19:51] <Odd-rationale> ASULutzy: yes. the default xorg.conf wont give me any higher resolution than 800x600
[19:51] <AlexCBoca> If I redirect my router to forward port 515 to my red hat server instead of my ubuntu server, it prints.
[19:51] <Las_> so what package should I install for JRE in mozilla?
[19:51] <lenswipe> can someone help me with ubuntu please
[19:52] <thebloggu> OpenSores, but i'll try to do it, thank for your help :)
[19:52] <AlexCBoca> If I redirect my router to forward port 515 to my red hat server instead of my ubuntu server, it prints from the remote office.
[19:52] <lenswipe> I cannot add or delete users using the GUI
[19:52] <Bodsda> BillyJoe, your welcome, this thread may be of some help -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1002057
[19:52] <lenswipe> it doesnt work
[19:52] <OpenSores> OK. I had a similar problem of horrible white noise coming out the speaker and the moment I moved the antenna to the other side of the desk it almost went away. I untangled the wires and it went completely.
[19:52] <lenswipe> anyone got any ideas?
[19:52] <AlexCBoca> I have tried everything reasonable to correct this.
[19:52] <Odd-rationale> ASULutzy: it is an ati Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02), if that makes much of a difference...
[19:52] <lenswipe> If i create a user with the GUI the user is created with no GUI, if i delete a user the user does not stay deleted...
[19:52] <ASULutzy> Odd-rationale: maybe dumping xrandr --verbose to a pastebin would help
[19:52] <thebloggu> OpenSores, ok i'll try that :)
[19:53] <lenswipe> can anyone help me please
[19:53] <lenswipe> im begging
[19:53] <AlexCBoca> I have noticed that on my red hat machine my /var/log/messages and /var/log/secure show the incoming lpd requests.
[19:53] <AlexCBoca> I never see them on my ubuntu machine.
[19:53] <lenswipe> im realling having problems
[19:53] <lenswipe> can someone please help me with this!
[19:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !helpme > lenswipe
[19:53] <Odd-rationale> ASULutzy: http://pastebin.com/f2410d2f9
[19:53] <Photoguy> Can anybody vouch for Epiphany?
[19:53] <deepfriedsquirre> Is saying 'yes' to a load of options to fix stuff in fsck likely to mess anything up?
[19:53] <lenswipe> Jack_Sparrow: ive been on here for nearly 2 hours
[19:54] <deepfriedsquirre> Or do I basically take the Homer Simpson approach and press 'y' every second?
[19:54] <Odd-rationale> Photoguy: i can. very nice... just not as many addons like firefox...
[19:54] <juanez> !locales
[19:54] <Jack_Sparrow> lenswipe Understood, but please settle down
[19:54] <lenswipe> Jack_Sparrow: i cant add users on ubuntu using the GUI
[19:54] <ASULutzy> Odd-rationale: Weird, I wonder if changing drivers would fix it
[19:54] <Las_> lenswipe: i've been here just as long without a fix but you don;t see my whining
[19:54] <Odd-rationale> ASULutzy: i already tried using vesa...
[19:54] <lenswipe> Jack_Sparrow: if i create a user the user is created with no home dir
[19:54] <Jack_Sparrow> lenswipe If you were running Windows.. You would still be on hold in the que
[19:54] <lenswipe> Las: you would be "whining" if your work was on the machine that didnt work
[19:55] <lenswipe> Las: asin, your school work.
[19:55] <ASULutzy> Jack_Sparrow: He could have called it "Business critical" and only had to wait for a half a day or so ;)
[19:55] <Las_> Jack_Sparrow: no, he'd be paying
[19:55] <Las_> lenswipe: if it's that important, go pay for support
[19:55] <Odd-rationale> ASULutzy: i really hate this new xorg... :(
[19:55] <lenswipe> Las: pay who?
[19:55] <Photoguy> Odd-rationale is it lightweight CPU wise?
[19:55] <lenswipe> Las_:Pay who exactly?
[19:55] <Jack_Sparrow> lenswipe I am busy. Ask your question and wsit.
[19:55] <Jack_Sparrow> wait
[19:56] <AlexCBoca> Are there people who will help with ubuntu for money?
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> lenswipe Please settle down.  HAve some patience and wait for someone with an answer
[19:56] <Las_> lenswipe: MS, it's clear Linuz is not for you :P
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[19:56] <deepfriedsquirre> I'm getting messages from fsck like 'Inode 211639 has imagic flag set.  Clear<y>?'. Should I say yes?
[19:56] <Odd-rationale> Photoguy: yeah
[19:56] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[19:56] <deepfriedsquirre> Is saying 'yes' to stuff fsck says generally sane?
[19:56] <Photoguy> Ok
[19:57] <Photoguy> Shut up bot!
[19:57] <Photoguy> :)
[19:57] <AlexCBoca> Is it necessary for me to occasionally re-ask a question so that it remains in view, in order to get a response, or is once usually enough?
[19:57] <_sound_> HP Pavilion dv5-1118eo sound issues - anybody?
[19:57] <lenswipe> Las_: linux is for me, its just not for me when people dont bother to actually answer your question, and then accuse you of whinning when you dont think its awesome to have your work lost.... I think i might use CentOS
[19:57] <DasEi> AlexCBoca: canoncial has pay-support, too see ubuntu,com
[19:57] <Las_> lenswipe: yes, they owe you, and only you, their complete attention
[19:57] <_sound_> hp sucks btw :)
[19:57] <lenswipe> Las_ and by the way its spelled Linux not Linuz :)
[19:58] <Jack_Sparrow> AlexCBoca It does not need to remain in view.  Every 2 or 3 minutes will work fine and not spam the channel
[19:58] <Las_> lenswipe: i'm sure your question is SO much more important than everyone elses
[19:58] <AlexCBoca> Got it.
[19:58] <lenswipe> Las_: im not demanding anyones attention im simply saying that im repeating myself because there is no way that anyone can read a single line of text in among loads of notices about people signing off.
[19:58] <ASULutzy> deepfriedsquirre: I always just say yes to everything and cross my fingers with fsck, does anyone do it differently?
[19:58] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: hello.. how are you today?
[19:58] <[Spooky]> lenswipe: Just give me a PM if you need some backup space...
[19:59] <Wald1> Morning folks. Anyone know how I can stop F-spot from automatically opening when I plug in an external drive with photos on it?
[19:59] <deepfriedsquirre> ASULutzy: thanks.
[20:00] <optiq> hey everyone, anyone have the link handy for the script that configures reading from windows partitions automatically?
[20:00] <AlexCBoca> I am having no success setting up remote spooled printers with Ubuntu 8.04.  It appears as if something is blocking incoming lpd (port 515) requests before they ever get to the local spooler.Is there a way to enable incoming lpd requests (port 515) on an Ubuntu 8.04 system?
[20:00] <deepfriedsquirre> 'Inode 211636 has INDEX_FL flag set but is not a directory.
[20:00] <deepfriedsquirre> Clear HTree index<y>?' - this sounds like a bad idea?
[20:00] <AlexCBoca> In my local office I set up a printer on 10.1.1.1 called lp19. I can print to it easily from 10.1.1.19. I have my router set to redirect port 515 to 10.1.1.1. Then in the remote office I created a printer called alex and pointed it at the public ip of my router (the one in my local office).
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Please note.. If anyone is having trouble reading past the part and join messages.. They are easy to turn off.
[20:00] <_sound_> why clones?
[20:00] <_sound_> lol
[20:01] <AlexCBoca> So in the remote office it looks like 'alex lpd://204.121.224.23/lp19
[20:01] <ASULutzy> optiq: Do you mean editing /etc/fstab so your Windows partition is mounted automatically?
[20:01] <optiq> yea
[20:01] <optiq> wait nm i'm a tool i was googling the wrong term
[20:01] <ASULutzy> !fstab | optiq
[20:01] <ASULutzy> optiq: One of those should help :)
[20:01] <gringosuperstar> I am a new comer to both Linux and Xubuntu...I can't seem to activate the NVIDA driver...Any suggestions...
[20:01] <optiq> thanks :D
[20:02] <Jack_Sparrow> optiq Do you need an example of how to mount different partitions
[20:02] <DasEi>  gringosuperstar:using ibex ?
[20:02] <stefg> !envy | gringosuperstar
[20:03] <optiq> i think i'll be good with those links Jack_Sparrow, but if you have another resource i'm all ears
[20:03] <gringosuperstar> kk thanks will give it a whirl
[20:03] <Jack_Sparrow> optiq I was just going to paste up mine as an example as I have both win and ext3's
[20:04] <optiq> that works can you PM it to me?
[20:04] <optiq> or pastebin
[20:04] <Jack_Sparrow> optiq ck your pm
[20:05] <Jack_Sparrow> #
[20:05] <Jack_Sparrow> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[20:05] <Jack_Sparrow> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[20:05] <Jack_Sparrow> # /dev/sda7
[20:05] <Jack_Sparrow> # UUID=6c46362a-5a78-4923-ba47-0460674909cf /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[20:05] <FloodBot2> Jack_Sparrow: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:05] <Jack_Sparrow> UUID=6c46362a-5a78-4923-ba47-0460674909cf /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[20:05] <lavagolemking> I can't get my mouse pad to work in a Dell XPS M1530. How do I find out what driver I need?
[20:05] <optiq> ouch
[20:05] <regeya> wow, did Jack_Sparrow just get smacked by the floodbot?
[20:05] <DIFH-iceroot> lavagolemking: you dont need driver for a mousepad
[20:05] <onetinsoldier> i think so
[20:05] <Trinitrogen> I have two 500 gig drives, one I'd like to backup the other. Is rsync the best tool for the job?
[20:05] <regeya> middle mouse button == EVIL
[20:06] <onetinsoldier> hehe, happens to thebest of us
[20:06] <dmhardison> Trying to do do-release-upgrade and it is telling me that it cannot verify the hardy.tar.gz.gpg, I was going to try to make it redownload the hardy.tar.gz file, but I can't find the cached version of the file. Any ideas?
[20:06] <samjam1> Trinitrogen: only if you haven't done a backup before
[20:06] <samjam1> otherwise it can take hours just working out what to bacjup
[20:06] <PricklyPoo> Ok, I want the source code to this...http://labs.trolltech.com/gitweb?p=WolfenQt;a=summary
[20:06] <ddgoose> Trinitrogen,  or you could set them up as an md device with mirroring
[20:06] <PricklyPoo> how do i download it?
[20:06] <lavagolemking> DIFH-iceroot: Well, the mouse doesn't work with it. When I try to move the mouse with it, the mouse jumps around in the bottom-left corner, right-clicking and left-clicking.
[20:07] <stefg> lavagolemking: http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&url=https%3A%2F%2Fanswers.launchpad.net%2Fubuntu%2F%2Bquestion%2F34253&ei=JK1KSen4PIzY0gW1nOS2Dg&usg=AFQjCNFj0hzG1_Y6o6TubgFV0rTcf_DFog&sig2=F1rDOd5k4siv4FFvQQjGOA
[20:07] <ddgoose> PricklyPoo, sudo apt-get source <package>
[20:07] <samjam1> Trinitrogen: But the -u flag can speed that up by "believing" timestamps and so it doesn't bother to check all files
[20:07] <Trinitrogen> One is an internal, one is an external. I'd like the external to be the backup, incase its not connected
[20:07] <PricklyPoo> k thanks I'll try :P
[20:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry guys...
[20:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Thankfully that bot is fast
[20:07] <rio> starting firefox i just get a grey window since last update :( what happened?
[20:07] <samjam1> Trinitrogen: Maybe you'll be better with rdiff backup, but I've had it trash my files so I don't trust it
[20:08] <Trinitrogen> samjab1: If I format the backup drive and do a fresh backup, would that be better?
[20:08] <PricklyPoo> do I paste the link in where the package goes?
[20:08] <PricklyPoo> since it isn;t an official package or anything
[20:08] <Las_> I need help making JRE run under mozilla so I can make this site work: http://busview.org/busview_launch.jsp thanks
[20:08] <samjam1> well it won't be "better" but at least rsync will get a move on and start backup up nearly right away
[20:08] <stefg> rio: one of your add-ons broke.. try safe-mode or a fresh profile
[20:08] <Las_> stuff should be installed, but I don;t know how to troubleshoot why it's failing to load
[20:09] <Trinitrogen> samjab1: thanks
[20:09] <samjam1> My brother printer has stopped printing today; cups error_log now says: E [18/Dec/2008:14:23:41 +0000] [Job 971] No pages found!
[20:09] <samjam1>  and just eats the print job
[20:09] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: hehe...  happens to the best of us. :) so how are you today?
[20:09] <ddgoose> Trinitrogen, you might also check out rdiff-backup
[20:10] <rio> stefg: "$ firefox -safe-mode"?
[20:10] <samjam1> Trinitrogen: but beware, if you update your rdiff-backup version it can entirely trash your old backups
[20:10] <Jack_Sparrow> onetinsoldier Fine thanks
[20:10] <stefg> rio: right
[20:10] <rio> stefg: no luck
[20:11] <samjam1> (maybe working locally will be ok, I was using over ssh and one of my machines had a revision newer of rdiff-backup. No-one on the rdiff-backup mailing list was interested which makes me doubt the whole thing)
[20:11] <fbc> Is there a way to see how may cpus the OS reports? (from the command line)
[20:11] <Trinitrogen> samjab1: I just want the drives to mirror each other. Not neccessarily in real time, maybe a scheduled backup once a week
[20:11] <samjam1> fbc: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[20:12] <samjam1> rsync will get you a quickish mirror if your target disk is blank
[20:12] <stefg> rio: sometimes custom gtk2-themes are buggy and cause Firefox to crash... try a default theme to test that
[20:12] <samjam1> I've not found a regular backup tool I like yet :-(
[20:12] <rio> stefg: im using human
[20:12] <stefg> rio.. ok
[20:13] <rio> stefg: moved .mozilla/firefox, no luck either :(
[20:13] <samjam1> I've filed my printer problem here, but I'm hoping someone else has an idea: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/309354
[20:13] <stefg> rio: so run firefox --profile-manager and try a new profile
[20:13] <fbc> samjam1, will apache 2 multithread? Will it split the load over all the cpu's?
[20:13] <Trinitrogen> Another sort of strange problem. Its a fresh install of Ibex, if a window has focus, and I mouse over the minimize/max/close buttons, sometimes the title bar at the top turns grey and the buttons disapear
[20:13] <samjam1> apache2 can multi thread, it depends how you have it configured
[20:13] <samjam1> however even multi-process will split over CPU's
[20:13] <samjam1> (which is the normal apache mode)
[20:13] <rio> stefg: projectmanager not starting too
[20:14] <mahmood> salam
[20:14] <mahmood> kesi nist?
[20:14] <samjam1> So as long as you have a few simultaneous requests it should make use of both CPU for you
[20:14] <rio> stefg: profilemanager, i meant
[20:14] <freaknasty> for some reason i cant download anything via apt
[20:14] <samjam1> mahmood: salam alekium
[20:14] <freaknasty> anyone know why?
[20:14] <slashzul> hi guys how easy is it to upgrade  to ubuntu-8.04 from 6.04?
[20:14] <fbc> samjam1, it's a quad core
[20:14] <freaknasty> my freinds AJF355 cant either
[20:15] <stefg> rio: so have you had swiftfox or some third-party firefox installed at any time on that machine (perhaps pre-upgrade?)
[20:15] <fivetwentysix> slashzul: pain in the ass.
[20:15] <freaknasty> it just says it cant find whatever i try to download
[20:15] <mahmood> i'm 8.1 bilakhy
[20:15] <freaknasty> are the package servers down?
[20:15] <samjam1> fbc: well as long as you have enough simultaneous requests that are active at once you will use all cores. Often they will be waiting for disk I expect in which case all cores may be idle
[20:15] <freaknasty> anybody?
[20:15] <freaknasty> package servers??
[20:15] <freaknasty> are the repos down?
[20:15] <rio> stefg: nope, just the repo version
[20:15] <Pici> slashzul: 6.06? You can upgrade right to 8.04
[20:15] <lyhana> hi, does any movie player include a plugin to download subs from opensutitles.org ?
[20:15] <freaknasty> i cant download anything?????!?!?!?!?!?!
[20:15] <pckchem> Hold on a second freaknasty
[20:15] <Pici> freaknasty: What version of Ubuntu? Please stop repeating.
[20:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !ohmy > fivetwentysix
[20:16] <freaknasty> Pici: we are both on hardy, me and my freind
[20:16] <Pici> freaknasty: Then the repositories  are still online.
[20:16] <freaknasty> Pici: well i cant download nything using sudo apt-get
[20:16] <freaknasty> is it a bug or something?
[20:16] <AJF355> same for me
[20:16] <fivetwentysix> Sorry didn't consider that foul language :-P
[20:16] <pckchem> freaknasty: check your internet connection
[20:16] <Pici> freaknasty: What error are you getting?
[20:16] <stefg> rio: then i'd try reinstalling ... sudo apt-get purge firefox && sudo apt-get install firefox
[20:16] <freaknasty> Pici: just that it cant find it
[20:16] <AJF355> im the friend he's talking about as well
[20:16] <slashzul> Pici: just happened to have old version cdrom
[20:16] <pckchem> freaknasty: sorry that was dumb...
[20:16] <freaknasty> heh
[20:16] <AJF355> lol
[20:17] <slashzul> Pici: I want to install and just upgrade
[20:17] <freaknasty> Pici: but its things like Apache2 that i know is definately in the reops
[20:17] <freaknasty> repos*
[20:17] <samjam1> rio: Did you try rm -fr .mozilla/firefox to delete your firefox settings?
[20:17] <slashzul> Pici: think its 7.04 , so just apt-get upgrade ?
[20:17] <Pici> freaknasty: Can you pastebin the error that you are getting?
[20:17] <samjam1> you won't need to de-install or re-install if that works
[20:17] <rio> samjam1: yes, with mv instead of rm :P
[20:17] <freaknasty> Pici: sure,
[20:17] <Pici> slashzul: 7.04 is no longer supported. It would be much easier to just download a new CD.
[20:17] <samjam1> ok.I regularly have to do that since firefox switch to sqlite (my homedirs are nfs)
[20:18] <Pici> slashzul: As well as less information to download, since from 7.04, youd need to go to 7.10 then 8.04
[20:18] <stefg> rio: grey window means the chrome is damaged or confused
[20:18] <rio> stefg: purged and reaninstalled, no luck.
[20:18] <samjam1> slashzul: and upgrades never work "quite" right
[20:18] <AJF355> pici: it just always says couldn't  find package (then name of package here)
[20:18] <FreeFull> When I try to use wifi, I do get a list of SSIDs, but when I try to connect to my router the connection fails
[20:18] <stefg> rio: so run firefox from the terminal and see if you get any meaningful output
[20:18] <Pici> AJF355: Using apt-get ?
[20:18] <freaknasty> Pici: nvm it works now for some reason
[20:18] <AJF355> yup
[20:19] <Pici> freaknasty: Okay :)
[20:19] <rio> stefg: no output at all, detaches and prints nothing
[20:19] <slashzul> samjam1: thats why I think ill download a new iso 8.04.1
[20:19] <AJF355> sec il try and see if it works for me as well now
[20:20] <stefg> rio: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[20:20]  * pckchem shudders at the thought of downloading 3 dist-upgrades instead of one nice clean new ISO
[20:20] <FreeFull> When I try to use wifi, I do get a list of SSIDs, but when I try to connect to my router the connection fails. Can anybody help me? The settings are all correct.
[20:20] <samjam1> FreeFull: are you using the network settings thingy in the task bar?
[20:21] <seanw1> I can not boot 8.10!
[20:21] <seanw1> it gets stck on USB. can someone help?
[20:21] <stefg> !boot
[20:21] <FreeFull> samjam1: NetworkManager didn't work for my network settings since I upgraded to 8.10 :(. I use /etc/network/interfaces for my wired connection and try to use wifi-radar for the wireless
[20:21] <slashzul> why is the server download edition NOT marked server but desktop ???
[20:21] <hwilde> the server edition is marked server
[20:22]  * stefg agrees
[20:22] <Hackintosh411> Hi.
[20:22] <samjam1> FreeFull: I've got my wireless working outside of NetworkManager cos my homedirs are nfs mounted, let me see if I can work out what I did
[20:22] <Hackintosh411> I need help setting up my GigaWare VGA webcam in ubuntu 8.10. Can anyone Assist me?
[20:22] <samjam1> I used wpasupplicant
[20:22] <seanw1> the live cd does not work either
[20:23] <hwilde> seanw1, did you check it for defects
[20:23] <kete> Hi! 	 I'm having a problem: 	 I can not start the X
[20:23] <FreeFull> samjam1: I don't have a password set on my access point
[20:23] <hwilde> seanw kil your ghost
[20:23] <rzajac> does anyone know where console-kit-daemon is started by the system?
[20:23] <ofh> hello !
[20:23] <samjam1> FreeFull: no encyption at all?
[20:23] <rio> stefg: alternatives didnt fix it too.. tried an X restart, fixed
[20:23] <hwilde> rzajac, yeah I know that
[20:23] <FreeFull> samjam1: no encryption
[20:23] <hwilde> rzajac, hold on it's buried
[20:23] <samjam1> All I can think is that it's not working for the same reason NetworkManager didn't work then...
[20:23] <Pici> hwilde: Its not his ghost, those are two different people.
[20:23] <samjam1> have you tried "dmesg" to see what is repotred?
[20:24] <ofh> someone who could help with wifi on 8.10 ???
[20:24] <Hackintosh411> I need help setting up my GigaWare VGA webcam. Can anyone help me?
[20:24] <Ltl> seanw1: are you sure the system BIOS boot order allows cdrom or usb before hdd boot, and configured to do so.
[20:24] <samjam1> I find dmesg a few seconds after an iwconfig command helps me see what is goin gon
[20:24] <seanw1> hwilde: yes
[20:24] <stefg> !webcam | Hackintosh411
[20:24] <hwilde> Pici, annoying on tab completion.   and seanw responds to seanw1
[20:24] <FreeFull> samjam1: [ 3040.864161] wlan1: direct probe to AP 00:14:6c:60:78:de timed out
[20:24] <samjam1> "dmesg -c" is useful because the -c clears the messages
[20:24] <kete> 	 I tried to install a video card driver and the X stopped working
[20:24] <samjam1> Whats your signal strength?
[20:24] <FreeFull> samjam1: maximum
[20:24] <stefg> !fixres | kete
[20:25] <seanw1> hwilde: the alt install works. but i get a usb enumeration error on the live cd
[20:25] <samjam1> what make and model wlan card?
[20:25] <ofh> intel
[20:25] <hwilde> rzajac,   /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.service
[20:25] <stefg> seanw1: seems that you need boot options to work around a flaky motherboard/bios
[20:25] <FreeFull> samjam1: It's netgear usb wg111 v3
[20:25] <rzajac> hwilde, thanks
[20:25] <Las_> can anyone help me get jre working with mozilla? I can;t run a .jsp page
[20:25] <seanw1> veary much like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/256767
[20:25] <FreeFull> samjam1: The drivers are already installed
[20:25] <hwilde> seanw1, try  routeirq   pollirq
[20:26] <ofh> ipw2100
[20:26] <Las_> and I can;t figure out why it's not working
[20:26] <tripps> woah I just accidentally changed my desktop to negative using some fast typing. using hardy heron and compiz - what's the keystroke to get it back?
[20:26] <rio> tripps: try super+m
[20:26] <tripps> rio, ah that did it thanks ;)
[20:26] <stefg> ctrl-alt-backspace ... :-)
[20:26] <hwilde> Las_, open firefox, goto Tools->AddOns->GetAdd-ons->Search  java
[20:26] <samjam1> FreeFull: have you had success with other access points?
[20:26] <samjam1> ofh: is anyone helping you?
[20:26] <kete> I tried starting X in several ways, but the problem is not the resolution
[20:27] <FreeFull> samjam1: All the other access points are encrypted so I can't connect to them
[20:27] <tripps> stefg, yeah no thanks :)
[20:27] <Las_> hwilde: I did that, nothing java is showing up in about:plugins
[20:27] <samjam1> Maybe your access point has MAC filtering enabled?
[20:27] <FreeFull> samjam1: I added the MAC of the wifi card to my router settings
[20:27] <hwilde> Las_, you did not do what I said then
[20:28] <samjam1> Does your router log report any encounters with the wlan card?
[20:28] <FreeFull> samjam1: yes
[20:28] <chazco> Hi... can anyone tell me if the graphics card shown here will work with Ubuntu 8.10? http://www.ebuyer.com/product/116473 - In particular running VGA+composite
[20:28] <samjam1> ofh: are you using network manager?
[20:28] <Las_> hwilde: it shows java console 6.0.02 "install complete", but java is not listed in "about:plugins"
[20:29] <stefg> !hardware | chazco
[20:29] <kete> peço desculpas pelas falhas de comunicação, mas nunca usei o irc
[20:29] <isleshocky771> Has anyone successfully ran adobe air 1.5 on ubuntu 8.10 x64?
[20:29] <isleshocky771> I'm getting the error: "Error loading the runtime (libadobecertstore.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)"
[20:29] <samjam1> FreeFull: so what does it say?
[20:29] <kete> Peço desculpas sobre as falhas de comunicação, mas nunca usei o irc
[20:29] <stefg> chazco: will probably work, if not with the stock drivers then with envy
[20:30] <hwilde> Las_, ok then   sudo apt-get install  sun-java6-jre
[20:30] <mchelen> what language?
[20:30] <Las_> hwilde: : in fact I now have console 6.0 and 6.0.02 showing in plugins. I also installed default-jre and sun-java6 and still no java working in firefox
[20:30] <tonyyarusso> chazco: It looks very similar to one I have.  Regular 2D use will work fine with the free nv driver, and 3D & compositing works with the proprietary driver.  However, you may have issues with suspend/resume not re-awakening video output.
[20:30] <FreeFull> samjam1: wait, I need to check
[20:30] <centr0> if i use xfce wm can i install a gtk theme?
[20:30] <chazco> stefg - If it goes by the nVidia chipset then hopefully it will do... need to be able to display HDTV (although not at HDTV resolution if that makes sense)
[20:30] <DavyZ> hi.. I am having some problems with the streaming videos.. its not having any volume.. whats the solution?
[20:30] <isleshocky771> nevermind on the adobe air question.
[20:30] <kete> Minha placa de vídeo é um sis 771/671
[20:31] <hwilde> Las_, that is strange.  how do you know java is not working?  what page are you trying
[20:31] <Las_> jre is already the newest version
[20:31] <hwilde> DavyZ, something else probably locked your sound audio.  Close all the programs then just open the streaming
[20:31] <Las_> hwilde:  http://busview.org/busview_launch.jsp
[20:31] <chazco> tonyyarusso - Ah thanks, i dont mind using the nvidia driver (to use all the outputs better), but dont use 3D anyway. Its a desktop so i dont plan on suspend/resume. Thanks :)
[20:31] <DavyZ> hwilde : thanks, I'll try that and let you know
[20:31] <hwilde> Las_, that works for me
[20:31] <k0der> wow, quite some activity here ...
[20:32] <k0der> didn't really expect that...
[20:32] <Las_> yeah, works for me on the windows box, but zilch in mozilla
[20:32] <Las_> hwilde: could it be broken because I installed default-jre first?
[20:32] <lianimator> how do I configure 2-finger-tap as middle click in Intrepid?
[20:32] <hwilde> Las_, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[20:32] <hwilde> lianimator, system -> preferences -> mouse
[20:32] <stefg> chazco: it's mentioned here as supported http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/intrepid/nvidia-glx-177
[20:32] <FreeFull> samjam1: It doesn't :O
[20:33] <Nombre> si
[20:33] <lianimator> hwilde: touchpad?
[20:33] <kristian1> if i remove network manager will /etc/network/interfaces still connect to wlan if i have added the neccary lines to connection to wlan there?
[20:33] <hwilde> lianimator, same thing man
[20:33] <hwilde> kristian1, yes.
[20:33] <FreeFull> kristian1: yes
[20:33] <chazco> stefg - Ah thanks... looks like the tv-out (composite) is supported which is ideal, need that for the projector
[20:34] <lianimator> hwilde: actually that's not what I was looking for.
[20:34] <Las_> hoorah
[20:34] <nbeebo> how do install lamp?
[20:34]  * Las_ hugs hwilde
[20:34] <hwilde> !lamp | nbeebo
[20:34] <stefg> !"lamp | nbeebo
[20:34] <nbeebo> tanks
[20:34] <Las_> hwilde: that was the missing piece, thanks :D
[20:34] <hwilde> Las_, lol enjoy your javas
[20:34] <stefg> !lamp | nbeebo
[20:34] <kete> Tentei instalar um driver do satux na umbanda e X deixa de ser iniciado, dando o seguinte erro antes de procurar log. "kinit: resumindo Na imagem, fazendo arranque normal"
[20:34] <kristian1> hwilde & FreeFull : thanks! so is /etc/network/interfaces the main "network" file in linux/ubuntu?
[20:34] <hwilde> !java < Las_
[20:34] <tonyyarusso> nbeebo: tasksel is one way, or you can get pieces manually.  I think that wiki page mentions both.
[20:34] <hwilde> kristian1, yes
[20:34] <FreeFull> kristian1: yes
[20:34] <hwilde> !java > Las_
[20:34] <Las_> how do I remove an unwanted package and it's deps?
[20:35] <tonyyarusso> Las_: How was it installed originally?
[20:35] <nbeebo> tonyyarusso, ah ok thanks
[20:35] <Las_> tony: apt-get I believe
[20:35] <kristian1> hwilde & FreeFull : thanks! oo de-ja-VU! :-P
[20:35] <stefg> Las_: apt-get autoremove <package>
[20:35] <lianimator> How do I configure 2-finger and 3 finger taps in Intrepid? (trying to configure synaptics)
[20:35] <hwilde> Las_, sudo apt-get remove --purge  <package>
[20:35] <tonyyarusso> Las_: bah, outtyped - what stefg said
[20:35] <Las_> thanks
[20:35] <Tomdbike> Hey :) I need some help with compiling the new rtl8187 driver (its in kernel 2.6.27)and im on hardy (kernel 2.6.24). At the moment, I'm using ndiswrapper but network manager does not work with it. the new RTL8187 works with network manager (which is what I want back). So could someone help me compile it? Please.
[20:36] <samjam1> FreeFull: I would want to borrow another access to check against to see where the problem might be
[20:36] <tonyyarusso> hwilde: that won't remove dependencies that are orphaned
[20:36] <samjam1> sorry I can't help more
[20:36] <nbeebo> its a bit outdated its talking about 6.04 lol
[20:36] <FreeFull> samjam1: Not doable
[20:36] <samjam1> Try not using wifi-rader but configuring manually with iwconfig
[20:36] <tonyyarusso> nbeebo: you mean 6.06 or 8.04?  (There's no such thing as 6.04, so if it actually says that...it's quite out of date!)
[20:36] <samjam1> just set the access point and make your you set the BSSIS to the base station mac
[20:36] <k0der> anyone here who knows something about login / logout scripts?
[20:36] <samjam1> sometimes that makes a difference
[20:36] <kete> e quando eu tentei iniciar X, o erro não estava começando gdm: "No screens found"
[20:37] <FreeFull> samjam1: yes but how do I make iwconfig connect once I configure stuff?
[20:37] <stefg> !build | Tomdbike
[20:37] <hwilde> FreeFull, are you just using WEP?   iwconfig eth1 essid <yourssidhere> key s:<stringkeyhere>
[20:37] <Tomdbike> Thank you.
[20:37] <stefg> !kernel | Tomdbike
[20:37] <FreeFull> hwilde: No, no encryption
[20:38] <nbeebo> tonyyarusso oh 6.06 anyway figured it out
[20:38] <Tomdbike> I only want to compile the latest wireless driver, rtl8187
[20:38] <hwilde> FreeFull, iwconfig eth1 essid <yourssidhere> key off
[20:38] <Tomdbike> in kernel 2.6.24.
[20:38] <rio> is there a way to make gui elements like lists and treeviews in thunderbird etc. fit the ubuntustudio look?
[20:38] <hwilde> !theme > rio
[20:38] <FreeFull> hwilde: eth1 is my wire connection :p
[20:38] <hwilde> FreeFull, substitute your wireless interface name there obviously
[20:39] <stefg> Tomdbike: do you have reliable sources that this is even possible? Not everything is backwards compatible
[20:39] <samjam1> FreeFull: what he said!
[20:39] <rio> hwilde: that doesnt answer my question
[20:39] <Tomdbike> I'm not sure stefg.
[20:39] <hwilde> !studio | rio
[20:40] <dva5912> What do i need to do to make XMMS stream to a shoutcast server?
[20:40] <stefg> Tomdbike: and backporting drivers isn't a trivial task
[20:40] <hwilde> rio,   /join #ubuntustudio
[20:40] <Tomdbike> Is it not?
[20:40] <FreeFull> samjam1: What now?
[20:40] <hwilde> dva5912, use mplayer it works automatically
[20:40] <samjam1> FreeFull and once iwconfig (or dmesg) says your link is up, then you can do "dhclient3 wlan0"
[20:40] <samjam1> what does "iwconfig wlan0" say now?
[20:40] <hwilde> FreeFull, does iwconfig have an Access Point and Link Quality?
[20:40] <dva5912> hmilde, mplayer streams<<<<   to a shoutcast server?
[20:40] <stefg> Tomdbike: no.... kernels change.... and Apis ... and data structures
[20:40] <rio> hwilde: spamming me with unrelated links and then telling me to join another channel, wow, you did it
[20:41] <FreeFull> hwilde: Access Point: Not-Associated
[20:41] <FreeFull> hwilde: Link Quality:0
[20:41] <lunakrist> I'm trying to make ChessDB and ld is exiting with "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lz".  I'm assuming I'm missing a library or something but can't figure out what... anyone got any ideas?
[20:41] <hwilde> FreeFull,  you are not associated then.
[20:41] <dva5912> What do i need to do to make XMMS stream to a shoutcast server?
[20:41] <mohan43u> .fr-HhgwWv did anybody have this kind of hidden directory in your home directory?
[20:42] <hwilde> rio, you need to adjust your themes, so follow the link from ubottu, or go ask in #ubuntustudio
[20:42] <hwilde> dva5912, use mplayer it works automatically
[20:42] <stefg> mohan43u: that is a leftover from a compresion job... safe to remove
[20:42] <Tomdbike> Right. I see. That is what I was worrying about. I know Ubuntu 8.10 has the latest kernel but there are a few bugs which keep me with Hardy. Plus I like Hardy cause its really stable.
[20:42] <FreeFull> hwilde: Also, sudo dhclient wlan1 times out
[20:42] <danielbw> openoffice.org 3.0 crashes on me when i click on a menu from an nx session
[20:43] <hwilde> FreeFull, you need to be Associated with Link Quality before you can get a dhcp address.
[20:43] <mohan43u> stefg: may I know which program created?
[20:43] <hwilde> FreeFull, did you kill network manager  and netowkr manager dispatcher
[20:43] <untitled_> hi! why ubuntu doesn't boot with lilo? I just removed grub, installed lilo and it says Loading Grub...please wait, error 15 o_O
[20:43] <dva5912> hwilde: does it STREAM STREAM, i said to a shoutcast server? I dont see any options for it too
[20:43] <stefg> mohan43u: file-roller
[20:43] <FreeFull> hwilde: no
[20:43] <hwilde> dva5912, yes I am stremaing music right now.  just goto open location
[20:43] <hwilde> dva5912, or if you go to shoutcast.com and get a pls it will open in mplayer
[20:43] <dva5912> no
[20:44] <dva5912> i want to stream TO a server, not from
[20:44] <hwilde> FreeFull, if you want to configure network manually, you need to kill NetworkManager and NetworkManagerDispatcher first
[20:44] <hwilde> dva5912, so you want to broadcast then?  xmms cannot do that
[20:44] <mohan43u> stefg: thanks, yesterday my firefox feeds not updated... so I taught some kind of hacking going on in my system:-D
[20:44] <paranoid_ndroid>  how can I record the sound output from an application that's being played through the speakers?
[20:44] <FreeFull> hwilde: Ok, killed them
[20:44] <dva5912> hwilde: i belive it can ive seen multiple references too it
[20:44] <hwilde> paranoid_ndroid, audacity
[20:45] <hwilde> FreeFull, ok now iwconfig wlan0 essid <yourssid> key off
[20:45]  * dva5912 wonders if winamp will work in ubunut
[20:45] <hwilde> FreeFull, now do you have associated and LQ
[20:45] <tonyyarusso> dva5912: xmpp is similar
[20:45] <ikonia> dva5912 it wont, it's a windows application
[20:45] <dassouki> recently, when i login to ubuntu, it just shows the desktop and nothing else, i can move the mouse and nothing else, i can't click or right click, C+S+backspace  gets me an error message: could not start x due to soem internal error. please contact ur sys admin! please help i'm on a busienss trip in the middle of nowhere (ubuntu 8.04)
[20:45] <mohan43u> dva5912: audacious is more similar..
[20:45] <tonyyarusso> dva5912: sorry, xmms I mean.
[20:45] <dva5912> tonyyarusso: but it wont stream
[20:46] <dva5912> THEY wont Broadcast!
[20:46] <tonyyarusso> dva5912: What do you mean?
[20:46] <dva5912> i have winamp runnig right now
[20:46] <deepfriedsquirre> fsck is trying to fix a filesystem for me, but the amount of fixes it's doing is LOADS. Is this okay? I'm thinking it's probably many thousands by now.
[20:46] <FreeFull> hwilde: I still get Access Point: Not-Associated
[20:46] <dva5912> they wont broadcast to a shoutcast server
[20:46] <paranoid_ndroid> hwilde, it doesn't recognize any input
[20:46] <hischild> what's the battery applet called? program wise ...
[20:46] <stefg> dassouki: boot to single mode and run a fsck.... could be a hrddrive problem
[20:46] <hwilde> FreeFull, you sure the ssid is right ?
[20:47] <FreeFull> hwilde: yes
[20:47] <hwilde> FreeFull, iwlist wlan0 scan
[20:47] <hwilde> FreeFull, does the scan show your ssid
[20:47] <dassouki> stefg, how can i boot to single mode?
[20:47] <hwilde> just for me
[20:47] <hwilde> this next track
[20:47] <dade> hi, how can i activate my networkcard on start?
[20:47] <hwilde> nobody else can listen
[20:47] <stefg> dassouki: press esc at boottime and select it in the boot menu
[20:47] <FreeFull> It shows one Cell with ESSID:""
[20:47] <deepfriedsquirre> fsck is trying to fix a filesystem for me, but the amount of fixes it's doing is LOADS. Is this okay? I'm thinking it's probably done many thousands of fixes by now.
[20:47] <dva5912> ok im out of options. What will broadcast to a shoutcast server
[20:48] <dassouki> thanks
[20:48] <Las_> anyone know why running kismet or changing wireless networks require that I reboot my computer until the Atheros network card works again>
[20:48] <nitin> hi all, i am facing this problem since 2 days, my pc just shutdowns without any reason
[20:48] <sid> bad power supply
[20:48] <nitin> anyone else facing it?
[20:48] <stefg> deepfriedsquirre: do you have any alternative to wait for the outcome ? .. i think: no!
[20:48] <dva5912> nitin, does your pc have pc helat monitor
[20:48] <tonyyarusso> or overheating
[20:48] <dva5912> health*
[20:48] <dade> how to activate network directly on startup?
[20:49] <FreeFull> hwilde: It shows one Cell with ESSID:""
[20:49] <dva5912> like it will shutdown for hot tempratures
[20:49] <nitin> ubuntu shutdowns properly
[20:49] <kristian1> dade : wireless?
[20:49] <dade> no wired
[20:49] <nitin> i dont know if its a feature of ubuntu
[20:49] <kristian1> dade : you have to edit - /etc/network/interfaces
[20:49] <hwilde> FreeFull, that is not good then
[20:49] <nitin> but i guess my HDD temperatures is on the line
[20:49] <dva5912> nitin,what year is the pc
[20:49] <nitin> 48
[20:49] <dade> it runs when i pull it up with ifconfig eth0 up
[20:49] <FreeFull> hwilde: Now that I killed network manager I can't connect to any website :/
[20:49] <nitin> 2008
[20:50] <Jonesy44> Tom where you at bro :D
[20:50] <nitin> bought 8 months back
[20:50] <dva5912> probrubly a health monitor thing. Check bios,
[20:50] <FreeFull> hwilde: I believe the router is set not to broadcast the SSID
[20:50] <funkyHat> FreeFull: have you restarted firefox since killing network manager?
[20:50] <nitin> ok lemme check
[20:50] <dva5912> mine used to do that nitin and i installed a case fan and it didnt do it anymore
[20:50] <FreeFull> hwilde: Now that I killed networkmanager I can't connect to websites but router settings still work
[20:50] <samjam1> FreeFull: sorry, I got called away - and pidgin keeps giving you a different colour :-(
[20:50] <FreeFull> funkyHat: no
[20:50] <deepfriedsquirre> stefg: I really do not know...
[20:50] <deepfriedsquirre> If I stop it now, I have a half-fixed filesystem aye?
[20:51] <dade> no idea anyone?
[20:51] <hischild> what's the battery applet called? program wise ... Looking for the executable.
[20:51]  * samjam1 has to go
[20:51] <_wall> I'll find out
[20:51] <hwilde> FreeFull, sorry maybe I am leading you down the wrong path
[20:51] <FreeFull> funkyHat: I did restart. Still, only my router page works
[20:51] <dva5912> Will anyprogram out their for ubuntu broadcast to a Shoutcast server? If so i want it
[20:51] <FreeFull> hwilde: any ideas?
[20:51] <hwilde> can other machines get internet through the router??
[20:51] <nitin> how do i do that on a lappy?
[20:51] <FreeFull> hwilde: yes
[20:52] <FreeFull> hwilde: It works just fine with cable
[20:52] <nitin> dell sure gets heated fast
[20:52] <dva5912> nitin, reboot and press F2 at startup
[20:52] <nitin> ok checking bios
[20:52] <dva5912> dell probrubly definently has that in it
[20:52] <hwilde> FreeFull, so no other clients on the wireless?
[20:52] <tonyyarusso> hischild: gnome-power-manager
[20:52] <nitin> brb in 5 mins
[20:52] <hischild> tonyyarusso, thank you
[20:52] <stefg> deepfriedsquirre: you just have to sit and wait... don't kill fsck, as this will surely make things worse. ahh... and while you wait think of how old the drive is, how hard you abused it and if it might be a sign of nearing failure of the drive
[20:52] <ghostknife> how can I set ethtool options in configuration so it's set at boot time?
[20:53] <FreeFull> hwilde: Not currently, but I know wifi works
[20:53] <Beererde> hi. i installed ubuntu 8.10 with the net installer on my aspire one, but i chose "gnome portable" and not gnome desktop. how can i get a normal gnome desktop?
[20:54] <deepfriedsquirre> stefg: So I couldn't send sigterm to it (does this count as killing?) and use something else? Is fsck the only fileystsem checker I'd want to contempalte?
[20:54] <FreeFull> hwilde: I set the router to broadcast the essid. Now it shows when I do iwlist wlan1 scan
[20:54] <tomas_> j
[20:54] <Tomdbike> Jonesy44: Im here :P
[20:54] <hwilde> FreeFull, nice
[20:55] <hwilde> FreeFull, do ifconfig wlan0 down;  ifconfig wlan0 up;   iwconfig wlan0 essid <yorussid>  key off
[20:55] <stefg> deepfriedsquirre: yes... ther is only one filesystem checker for each filesystem...
[20:55] <FreeFull> hwilde: wait, I did  sudo iwconfig wlan1 essid Main key off
[20:55] <kristian1> dade : http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/ - this should be useful if your still wondering. you will connect to eth0 before login/on startup.
[20:55] <FreeFull> hwilde: And now Access Point: gives me 00:14:6C:60:78:DE
[20:55] <hwilde> FreeFull, and you got LQ too ?
[20:56] <FreeFull> hwilde: yes, it's 66/100
[20:56] <hwilde> FreeFull,  nice now you are wirelessly associated so   dhclient wlan0
[20:56] <FreeFull> hwilde: I did iwconfig again and the Access Point and lq are back to Not-Associated and 0
[20:57] <hwilde> FreeFull, that is lame.  are you sure you killed the NetworkManager and Dispatcher
[20:57] <FreeFull> hwilde: yes
[20:57] <Beererde> hi. i installed ubuntu 8.10 with the net installer on my aspire one, but i chose "gnome portable" and not gnome desktop. how can i get a normal gnome desktop?
[20:57] <stefg> Beererde: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[20:57] <deepfriedsquirre> stefg: Well, I'm only trying to get some individual files out, even if I can't get everything :-) Is there a nice way to end fsck so I can use something like magicrescue?
[20:57] <Beererde> stefg: thx
[20:57] <secondgenesis> or sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment
[20:58] <secondgenesis> ^^ and data
[20:58] <Beererde> secondgenesis: i tried that, installed 120 mb but no change.. trying the other one
[20:58] <stefg> deepfriedsquirre: wait for it to finisch, then try testdisk and photorec
[20:58] <FreeFull> hwilde: What do you think?
[20:59] <hwilde> FreeFull,  I think you didn't kill NetworkManager.
[20:59] <FreeFull> hwilde: I did
[20:59] <Beererde> stefg: is it possible to choose between the two in gdm then?
[20:59] <FreeFull> hwilde: It doesn't show up when I do ps -A
[21:00] <secondgenesis> you can choose between the two in session chooser on your login screen.
[21:00] <secondgenesis> and set it to default there.
[21:00] <Beererde> secondgenesis: ok, cool!
[21:00] <l337ingDisorder> Is there a way to make certain windows appear at specific pixel locations with specific sizes by default?
[21:00] <rio> l337ingDisorder: which window manager are you using? compiz?
[21:00] <hwilde> FreeFull, ps -ef | grep Network
[21:00] <stefg> Beererde: i don't know, never tried it
[21:01] <tonyyarusso> !devilspie | l337ingDisorder
[21:01] <l337ingDisorder> eg, make gnome-terminal appear at screen pos 500,150 with size 800x600 every time
[21:01] <Beererde> stefg: then i'll report in a few seconds :)
[21:01] <l337ingDisorder> rio: compiz
[21:01] <rio> tonyyarusso: he doesnt use metacity
[21:01] <rio> l337ingDisorder: youve got ccsm installed=
[21:01] <ChristianBill> Can anyone help me. I just installed Ubuntu and the "add/remove programs" window crashed, so I am trying to close it - I must admit defeat and accept that I dont know how
[21:01] <l337ingDisorder> ubottu: ahh ok thanks.. I'm using devil's pie for other uses right now
[21:01] <l337ingDisorder> rio: what's ccsm?
[21:02] <rio> l337ingDisorder: the compizconfig settings manager
[21:02] <stefg> !ccsm
[21:02] <l337ingDisorder> rio: ahh, yes I have that.
[21:02] <secondgenesis> ChristianBill, add a program to your gnome-dock
[21:02] <secondgenesis> that kills programs you click on
[21:02] <secondgenesis> it's in the right click menu
[21:02] <rio> l337ingDisorder: you can add rules to the place windows plugin
[21:02] <Beererde> it did not work, i have still that strange desktop :(
[21:02] <secondgenesis> kill application or something like that.
[21:03] <l337ingDisorder> rio: aha! Thanks, I figured it'd be something straight-forward like that!
[21:03] <secondgenesis> you used the session manager in the login screen?
[21:03] <rio> l337ingDisorder: "Fixed Window Placement" it is
[21:03] <ChristianBill> secondgenesis:  How do I add a program to the "gnome-dock" ...and what is it?
[21:03] <Beererde> i chose "gnome" as session
[21:03] <secondgenesis> right click the bar on the top or bottom
[21:03] <Beererde> and there is no other entry
[21:03] <secondgenesis> then add to panel
[21:03] <secondgenesis> restart x first
[21:03] <secondgenesis> Ctrl+alt+backspace
[21:03] <Phaedrus2> hey all Im getting a problem with locales, I have read hundred of threads tried dpkg, locale-gen etc... editid my en and local file to no avail any idea
[21:04] <secondgenesis> signing off....
[21:04] <Beererde> stefg: any other idea to get my normal desktop?
[21:04] <dassouki> so sudo fdisk /dev/hda should fix my hard drive problems?
[21:04] <gsamsa> i have sound on the speakers and headphones at the same time. help me
[21:04] <l337ingDisorder> rio: any idea how I'd find out the window class of a given window? (such as scite or gnome-terminal)
[21:05] <stefg> Beererde: so what happens?
[21:05] <FreeFull> When I try iwconfig essid Main key off, I get Access Point: my-routers-mac-adress and then after 2 seconds it goes back to Not-Associated
[21:05] <FreeFull> Can anybody help with that?
[21:05] <rio> l337ingDisorder: theres a button next to the input field, you can just click that button and click your window
[21:05] <Beererde> stefg: nothing. i installed both ubuntu-desktop and gnome-desktop-environment, but still i have this ulgy thing
[21:05] <FreeFull> I did kill NetworkManager
[21:05] <gsamsa> i have sound on the speakers and headphones at the same time. help me
[21:05]  * ElijahDuBarryVT is away: I'm not here, please try again latter!
[21:06] <docbob> anyone use the HomeBackup utility??
[21:06]  * l337ingDisorder smacks himself in the forehead
[21:06] <l337ingDisorder> rio: thanks
[21:06] <stefg> Beererde: add a new user (use the console and run 'sudo adduser')
[21:06] <l337ingDisorder> rio: I should have been smarter than that ;)
[21:06] <gsamsa> i have sound on the speakers and headphones at the same time. help me
[21:06]  * ElijahDuBarryVT is back (gone 00:00:55)
[21:06] <stefg> !intelhda | gsamsa
[21:07]  * ElijahDuBarryVT is away: I'm not here, please try again latter!
[21:07] <Beererde> stefg: ok
[21:07] <rio> l337h4l: you can also use regex for matching if you enable the regex plugin
[21:07] <Beererde> stefg: logging in as him, brb
[21:07] <FreeFull> gsamsa: Open volume settings and check Headphone Jack Sense
[21:08] <Phaedrus2> anyone have experience setting locales or issues with glibc?
[21:08] <Phaedrus2> Im having a problem setting locales, if I enter locale I get errors
[21:08] <Phaedrus2> (15:53 $)─> locale
[21:08] <Phaedrus2> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[21:08] <Phaedrus2> locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
[21:08] <Phaedrus2> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[21:08] <FloodBot2> Phaedrus2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:09] <gsamsa_> ubottu: that didn't help
[21:09] <dassouki> how to check my hard drive for errors
[21:09] <FreeFull> gsamsa: Talk to stefg
[21:09] <gsamsa_> i have sound on the speakers and headphones at the same time. help me
[21:10] <Phaedrus2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88028/
[21:10] <Beererde> stefg: still the same desktop ...
[21:10] <Phaedrus2> Bueller ? lol
[21:10] <gsamsa_> stefg:
[21:10] <gsamsa_> i have sound on the speakers and headphones at the same time. help me
[21:10] <FreeFull> Beererde: Can you show us a screenshot?
[21:10] <zetharx> i broke grub by adding a partition to my drive. my bootable partition has changed from sda1 to sda5.  what do i need to change to get it to boot?
[21:10] <DasEi> zetharx: fstab
[21:11] <DasEi> zetharx: ... and menu.lst
[21:11] <Phaedrus2> Im having a problem with locales, anyone care to help?
[21:11] <Emin> hi all
[21:11] <gsamsa_> i have sound on the speakers and headphones at the same time. help me
[21:11] <Beererde> FreeFull: http://imagebin.org/33943
[21:11] <natfroi> scusate supporto italiano?
[21:11] <Emin> does anyone know how i can turn emerald on?
[21:12] <hischild> !locales | Phaedrus2
[21:12] <FAJ> hi, I just reinstalled ubuntu 8.04.1 I was wondering if someone could go into their gconf-editor and tell me what the command for shutdown-dialog is?  I deleted it accidentally
[21:12] <Phaedrus2> natfroi, que fi?
[21:12] <zeralda> any body help ...how install advanced appearance ubuntu
[21:12] <grendal_prime> kio slave...i need it in ibex...quanta is not using it for whatever reason...grrrrrrrrrrrr
[21:12] <hischild> !ccsm | zeralda
[21:12] <gsamsa_> i have sound on the speakers and headphones at the same time. help me
[21:12] <FreeFull> Beererde: I see what you mean
[21:12] <FAJ> !it
[21:12] <Beererde> FreeFull: yes.. it really su***
[21:13] <Beererde> i even checked the repositorys in apt-get, but they are the same as with normal ubuntu
[21:13] <FreeFull> Beererde: sucks is not a swearword
[21:13] <Phaedrus2> hischild, did that before not working
[21:13] <hischild> gsamsa_, being polite would be nice and is sure to get faster help then just demanding.
[21:13] <gsamsa_> i have sound on the speakers and headphones at the same time. help me
[21:13] <Beererde> and lsb_release -a shows just the normal 8.10 msg
[21:13] <ChristianBill> Does anyone know how to change the amount of the touchpad that functions as the "scroll area"
[21:13] <gsamsa_> i have sound on the speakers and headphones at the same time. help me please
[21:13] <FreeFull> Beererde: After you installed ubuntu-desktop, did you check the options at the login screen?
[21:13] <DasEi> !repeat | gsamsa_
[21:13] <Beererde> FreeFull: sure, there is only "gnome" and "gnome safe mode"
[21:14] <FreeFull> Beererde: Strange.
[21:14] <Phaedrus2> still have problems with locales here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/88028/
[21:14] <DasEi> zetharx: need more help ?
[21:14] <Beererde> :(
[21:14] <gsamsa_> fuck linux, i'm going back to windows.
[21:14] <mithraic> Can I use a monitor on a different machine as part of a large desktop? Or would it have to be a separate DISPLAY?
[21:14] <Beererde> gsamsa: have fund
[21:14] <Las_> gsamsa: bye
[21:14] <Beererde> fun
[21:15] <zeralda> how install 'compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:15] <Phaedrus2> gsamsa interesting take on it lol
[21:15] <Beererde> FreeFull: and google does not find anything...
[21:15] <Phaedrus2> zeralda, sudo apt-get installl
[21:15] <onetinsoldier> FAJ: hi. i don't have 8.04, but 8.10. i am looking in gconf-editor. where is it in there?
[21:15] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier, use find
[21:16] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: ok,, thanks!
[21:16] <Phaedrus2> Im still having troubles with locales here is output http://paste.ubuntu.com/88028/
[21:16] <Phaedrus2> need help, constant perl errors
[21:16] <Phaedrus2> I have reinstalled glibc-common
[21:16] <Phaedrus2> nothings working
[21:17] <Phaedrus2> tried dpkg-reocnifugre locales, etc...
[21:17] <Phaedrus2> even edited EN and LOCAl in var/lib/
[21:17] <Emin> when i turn compiz on my titlebar hides away..
[21:17] <zeralda> should i update my linux before get compizconfig ?
[21:17] <zetharx> vol_id -u /dev/sda1     --       /dev/sda1: error opening volume          without using vol_id how can i find the UUID?
[21:17] <dekushrub> hey i came home from college and changed timezones, is there an easy way to change the time for winter break and then back when i go back to school?
[21:17] <Phaedrus2> nothings changing, still says perl cannot set locale, falling back to C
[21:18] <dassouki> I'm a bit confused, when i run fsck it says WARNING!! running e2fsck on a mounetd filesystem may cause Severe filesystem damage ... what should i do if i only want tocheck my hard drive for errors
[21:18] <Flannel> dassouki: `sudo touch /forcefsck` and then reboot
[21:18] <Beererde> i think i activated a forgotten option :(
[21:18] <FreeFull> dassouki: Try running fsck from a live cd
[21:19] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: try  dpkg-reconfigure locales-gen
[21:19] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier, did that, many times, did locale-gen too nada
[21:19] <zeralda> should i update my ubuntu  before get compizconfig ??
[21:19] <Emin> does anyone know how i could bring the titlebar back?
[21:19] <Phaedrus2> actually went in a physically edited the En and Local files too
[21:19] <Phaedrus2> nada
[21:19] <gringosuperstar> Hi.. I am new to Xubuntu/Linux I have tried to Activate Nvidia without success. Then after advice installed envyng and still no 3d graphics (screen saver etc)..Any suggestions please
[21:19] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: roger
[21:19] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier, ha
[21:19] <dassouki> FreeFull i'm on a stupid connection in the middle of nowehere world on a trip using some person's computer, i can't make a live cd, and my laptop is not connected to teh interent
[21:20] <Beererde> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile
[21:20] <FAJALOU> onetinsoldier: it's a different command; i am positive ;)(
[21:20] <Flannel> dassouki: `sudo touch /forcefsck` and then reboot
[21:20] <rrr69> salut !! sous windows si quelqu'un installe in antivirus et qu'il essaye d'envoyé un fichier sur dailymotion il est bien obligé douvrir un ports ?? si oui lequel ??
[21:20] <FreeFull> dassouki: Don't scan your drive for errors then. It is dangerous
[21:20] <rrr69> sorry frensh
[21:20] <Emin> could anyone help me with my titlebar?
[21:20] <dassouki> Flannel thanks
[21:20] <FreeFull> dassouki: Don't
[21:20] <Beererde> at least now i know how it's called
[21:20] <FreeFull> dassouki: It can produce more errors than it will detect
[21:20] <pasteeater> snakeyy: what did you get installed from that tutorial?
[21:21] <dassouki> FreeFull when i login into gnome, it just shows the desktop paper and that's it
[21:21] <onetinsoldier> FAJALOU: ok, roger
[21:21] <Phaedrus2> ugh anyone knowledgeable in locales?
[21:21] <pasteeater> snakeyy: or, how far did you get?
[21:21] <FreeFull> dassouki: Which doesn't mean it's disk errors
[21:21] <snakeyy> i kept on running commands till where it says ffmpeg in bold
[21:21] <FreeFull> dassouki: Try pressing alt+f2 and typing in gnome-desktop. What happens?
[21:22] <dreamon_xchat> Is it possible to lowlevel format a new hdd from linux? And how could it be done??
[21:22] <pasteeater> snakeyy: first i recommend uninstalling what it told you to install
[21:22] <LjL> dreamon_xchat: lowlevel formatting HDs out of the factory is something that, as far as i'm aware, has not been done in the last 15 years or so.
[21:22] <pasteeater> snakeyy: cd /usr/local/src/lame-3.97
[21:23] <pasteeater> snakeyy: make uninstall
[21:23] <pasteeater> snakeyy: nix that last command.  it will be: sude make uninstall
[21:23] <zeralda> my amsn doesnt work ...:(
[21:23] <dassouki> it shows me al ogin screen, and startx goes into ubuntu again with the same problem, i can see the background and the mouse, and my fan acts up
[21:23] <pasteeater> snakeyy: gah..  sudo make uninstall
[21:23] <dassouki> Flannel it shows me al ogin screen, and startx goes into ubuntu again with the same problem, i can see the background and the mouse, and my fan acts up
[21:23] <zeralda> how to uninstall my amsn
[21:23] <gofg> zeralda, sudo apt-get remove amsn
[21:23] <snakeyy> so its : sudo make uninstall
[21:23] <dassouki> Flannel alt f2 only works if i'm not on gnome
[21:24] <Lethal|Tuna> Hello all! :)
[21:24] <askar> Hi! I have a problem with GRUB. I have one harddrive and had Ubuntu installed on /. I also had an extended partition and swap. Today I installed Suse and created another / and installed on. Now I can not access ubuntu
[21:24] <natfroi> scusate ma perche io seguo una guida che mi dice di digitare questi comandi su il mio terminale ma a me quando li digito dice  comando non valido la guidae questa
[21:24] <dreamon_xchat> Ups.. Ok, but how can I Format a complete Harddrive, and not only a weak format in a few minutes. A real format should do that in an hour.
[21:24] <natfroi> http://www.nabble.com/per-favore-un-aiutino-td16071994.html
[21:24] <gofg> Howdy Lethal|Tuna. This is a fairly high-traffic channel, we don't usually exchange pleasantries. What a refreshing sight! :)
[21:24] <Phaedrus2> hmm on another note I cant get last fm applet in AWN to show albulm art
[21:25] <\\`oot> askar: wow... does GRUB show the Ubuntu part as available even?
[21:25] <Phaedrus2> anyone have any ideas?
[21:25] <gofg> I think that's the first time i've ever seen anything like "hi"
[21:25]  * gofg hugs Lethal|Tuna 
[21:25] <askar> \\`oot: Yes it does
[21:25] <\\`oot> askar: Error?
[21:25] <askar> \\`oot: Error 15 or something
[21:25] <Lethal|Tuna> Hi gofg!
[21:26] <\\`oot> askar: Would be great to have the actual error ... can make sure?
[21:26] <askar> \\`oot: I am pretty sure all it told me was Error 15: file not found
[21:26] <askar> \\`oot: I guess it is looking for the file on my suseroot when it is on my ubunturoot
[21:26] <\\`oot> askar: OK, one sec
[21:27] <\\`oot> right, can you edit your grub.conf file?
[21:27] <askar> \\`oot: yea
[21:27] <\\`oot> post it to a pastebin?
[21:27] <\\`oot> !pastebin
[21:28] <Beererde> hi. i installed ubuntu 8.10 with the net installer on my aspire one, but i chose "gnome portable" and not gnome desktop. how can i get a normal gnome desktop? i installed ubuntu-desktop and gnome-desktop-environment, but still nothing..
[21:28] <askar> \\`oot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/88039/
[21:28] <\\`oot> askar: In the mean time: go here and read -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297261
[21:28] <gringosuperstar> I am new to Xubuntu/Linux I have tried to Activate Nvidia without success. Then after advice installed envyng and still no 3d graphics (screen saver etc)..Any suggestions please
[21:28] <gofg> Beererde, try running them?
[21:28] <gofg> lol
[21:28] <gofg> they should have gone in /bin, right?
[21:28] <zetharx> using gparted i copy one partition to another on the same drive.  does that copy the UUID to the new partition as well?
[21:28] <Phaedrus2> Beererde, clean install it again, if you dont have important data on it already
[21:28] <lln> ?
[21:28] <dassouki> is tehre a way no terminal to do ls -show by last modified
[21:28] <lln> ????
[21:29] <zetharx> doesnt make sense but it seems like that is my problem
[21:29] <Beererde> Phaedrus2: which will take another 3 hours :(
[21:29] <Dada_> Hi there. I'm connecting to an Ubuntu box via VNC.  I was wondering: is it possible to connect to multiple users in multiple connections or can you only control the screen?
[21:29] <Phaedrus2> Beererde, ya I hear Ive been here waiting for an answer, and Im not getting nuttin, so sorry for the flip answer lol
[21:29] <awflame08> Hey all.. Quick question. I set the compose key in GNOME but every time I log in, it doesn't take effect until I open it up and uncheck the option / recheck the option. Any ideas?
[21:30] <tonyyarusso> dassouki: -c
[21:31] <kern> no sound in youtube! i followed forums that said to gedit a file in /etc/firefox... but i have firefox 3 and that files not there... also i am running ubuntu 8.04
[21:31] <bhsx_> howdy, i'm installing 8.10 on my wife's inspiron 2200 with a broadcom wireless chip...   does anyone have a good straight-forward howto on setting that up?
[21:32] <\\`oot> askar: Do you have a /boot/grub/menu.lst on (hd0,0)?
[21:32] <awflame08> bhsx: Which broadcom chip?
[21:33] <FAJ> hi in ubuntu 8.04.1, what is the name of the user switch applet, the one that comes up when you hit ctrl alt delete?
[21:34] <awflame08> FAJ: The process is gdm
[21:34] <dassouki> it says right now that i have a "read-only system" when i try to rename my xorg.conf and renaming the backedup one
[21:34] <gringosuperstar> I am new to Xubuntu/Linux(Intrepid ibex) I have tried to Activate Nvidia without success. Then after advice installed envyng and still no 3d graphics (screen saver etc)..Any suggestions please
[21:34] <earthmeLon> Hey guys, I restarted my laptop last night and when It came back up I noticed it didn't connect to my router.  Now I have it connected wire-based so I could get on here.  I also just stuck a disc in my CD-ROM drive and it won't mount.  I'm really not sure what happened, and don't know where to start to figure it out.  Any suggestions?
[21:34] <awflame08> gringosuperstar: Have you downloaded/installed all updates?
[21:35] <gringosuperstar> yup
[21:35] <earthmeLon> If I do iwconfig, wlan0 shows up
[21:35] <FAJ> awflame08: ok,,, what is the command for it to show up?
[21:35] <dnl_sk8> alguém do Brasil ae?
[21:35] <tonyyarusso> !br | dnl_sk8
[21:35] <awflame08> FAJ: try: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[21:35] <awflame08> gringosuperstar: Quelle carte ?
[21:35] <TuxMan1> hi
[21:35] <awflame08> gringosuperstar: Err, sorry, which nVidia card?
[21:35] <FAJ> awflame08:  no i don't want to restart gdm... i just want that thing with shutdown, restart, logoff, hibernate, and suspend to show up
[21:35] <TuxMan1> where is the user crontab located?? (not the system...)
[21:36] <ChristianBill> Does anyone know how to install a logitech pro 9000 webcam?
[21:36] <awflame08> FAJ: Ohh. I think that's built-in to gnome-panel
[21:36] <FAJ> awflame08:  ok so when i hit ctrl alt delete, what is the command that is registered for that stuff to show up?
[21:37] <gringosuperstar> kk
[21:37] <simon_r> hi.  i posted on the forums, but hoping to spd up a fix.  I am having problems getting aclean install of ubuntu.  my main issue is that i constantly get a "no signal" message, then a black screen.  sometimes if i hrad-reboot, ubuntu loads, but then i get a HAL error.
[21:37] <tiyowan> gnome power manager is the package which controls hibernation/suspend.
[21:37] <awflame08> FAJ: I'm not sure, sorry..
[21:37] <simon_r> lost first bit of post.  it was having problems getting a clean install
[21:38] <FAJ> tiyowan do you know what command it is though?  for that dialog to show up?
[21:38] <Bodsda> how would i install a deb forcefully ignoring a dependency?
[21:38] <tiyowan> FAJ: First of all, do you get those options when you click on your username on the top right?
[21:38] <jrib> Bodsda: that's a dumb thing to do really. dependencies are dependencies for a reason.  Give more details
[21:38] <Beererde> is there a channel for ubuntu mid edition?
[21:38] <FAJ> tiyowan i am in 8.04.1
[21:39] <Bodsda> jrib, the dependency is not satisfiable, it has no installation candidate and recommends using the newer version (which i have)
[21:39] <tiyowan> FAJ: Okay. But did you get those options before?
[21:40] <Beererde> how is the standard gnome wm called?
[21:40] <FAJ> tiyowan what i did is i messed it up because I installed 8.10, so i tried to fix it in there, and then i moved back to 8.04.1, and the options stayed there
[21:40] <kern> nevermind i fixed my problem
[21:40] <jrib> Bodsda: give more details.  pastebin errors etc
[21:40] <awflame08> Beererde: The window manager is nautilus and the decorator is gnome-window-decorator
[21:40] <Beererde> awflame08: ok
[21:40] <Chiselhuk_Plus1> Hi, I need to update my aMSN to the latest version 'n when I load their page it's all in Greek to me! Can anyone help me plse?
[21:41] <tiyowan> FAJ: I don't seem to be understand. Do you want the options gone? Or do you want the options? Are they working or not?
[21:41] <FAJ> tiyowan i want the options
[21:42] <tiyowan> FAJ: "sudo apt-get install gnome-power-managaer"
[21:42] <tiyowan> FAJ: er, "sudo apt-get install gnome-power-manager"
[21:42] <mia_tech> need help installing ubuntu over the network?.. anyone?
[21:42] <Bodsda> jrib, im giving you all i have, i downloaded a deb of maniadrive, it needs a dependency, when i try to install said dependency i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/88046/
[21:42] <Beererde> awflame08: can i reinstall the gnome-wm-decorator?
[21:42] <FAJ> tiyowan *sigh* no i want that one dialog to show up when you hit ctrl alt delete...
[21:43] <loller> mysql> create database temp;ERROR 1044 (42000): Access denied for user ''@'localhost' to database 'temp'
[21:43] <loller> what`s the problem
[21:43] <awflame08> Beererde: why?
[21:43] <onetinsoldier> should a metacity theme work in compiz? the theme seems to partially work after installing it, but the window titlebars part of the theme does not seem to be there
[21:43] <Beererde> awflame08: because i have ubuntu mid edition and want to get rid of it
[21:43] <earthmeLon> I restarted my computer last night and now my wireless doesnt work.  If I do iwconfig it shows wlan0, but it's not connecting to the network it used to.  Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[21:43] <tiyowan> FAJ: Ah I understand now. Hmm, wait one.
[21:43] <FAJALOU> tiyowan ok...
[21:43] <gringo_superstar> still the same as b4
[21:43] <Trijntje> hi, my sound just stopped working and now every window i start from the gnome menu is unresponsive. Anyone an idea on how to pin down the problem?
[21:43] <tiyowan> onetinsoldier: I've had bad experiences mixing themes of different window managers.
[21:43] <onetinsoldier> tiyowan: roger
[21:44] <mia_tech> my laptop's cd drive is broken and I need to install over the network
[21:44] <glax> Hi guys, Is there a problem with hn.archive.ubuntu.com
[21:44] <glax> I am using feisty
[21:44] <glax> and cannot install anything
[21:44] <FAJALOU> tiyowan it's working on my other machine... but i don't know where to find it to add it to my other machine.
[21:44] <glax> always says ip not found
[21:44] <Bodsda> glax, that link is good for me (8.10)
[21:44] <awflame08> I'm pretty sure that the window decoraator isn't in its own package
[21:44] <onetinsoldier> tiyowan: do you know why i don't have 'metacity' as a choice for seesion at the gdm screen?
[21:45] <jrib> Bodsda: where did you get it?  I can't find a deb on maniadrive's site
[21:45] <simon_r> installing off the cd just causes my computer screen to go black
[21:45] <gringo_superstar> awflame08:still the same
[21:45] <tiyowan> FAJALOU: I can't seem to find anything. :( I'm running intrepid, otherwise I would've been able to help you out more.
[21:45] <Bodsda> jrib, http://www.getdeb.net/release/2575
[21:45] <Radit> test
[21:46] <jrib> Bodsda: the deb is for hardy
[21:46] <awflame08> gringo_superstar: Sorry, what was?
[21:46] <Bodsda> Radit, success
[21:46] <Bodsda> jrib, so
[21:46] <pilky> hello, what all i have to change to update my hostname?
[21:46] <pilky> i still see old hostname when i do things like ping etc
[21:46] <FAJALOU> tiyowan it's all good, i will keep asking; it's because 8.10 changed it, so it's not in 8.10, only 8.04
[21:46] <jrib> Bodsda: so it's not intended to be used with intrepid since deps may be broken as you just found out.  Get the source package and try to rebuild it if you want
[21:46] <glax> Bodsda, this is the ip that is searching 91.189.88.31
[21:46] <FAJ> hi in ubuntu 8.04.1, what is the name of the user switch applet, the one that comes up when you hit ctrl alt delete?
[21:46] <dassouki> help help ! i tried to recover my ubuntu, with no apparent results. whenever i logon i get the background and am ouse, when i go alt f 2 or control shift backspace and logon, it says that my pc is in erad-mode only,
[21:47] <pilky> nevermind i found the hosts setting
[21:47] <tiyowan> onetinsolder: Hmm...not really sure about that. Perhaps some config file setting?
[21:47] <simon_r> i did the cd check, however, the install is failing
[21:47] <Bodsda> jrib, id prefer to forcefully install it regardless of the dep first
[21:47] <mia_tech> anyone could help me install ubuntu over the network to my laptop?
[21:48] <jrib> Bodsda: install it properly, it will save you headaches later
[21:48] <Bodsda> glax, problem is client side -- ping returns on my machine
[21:48] <FreeFull> mia_tech: It's pretty easily as long as you're not trying to do it over wireless
[21:48] <onetinsoldier> tiyowan: ok, i hear you. i will try and figure it out. i do have metacity installed
[21:48] <FreeFull> easy*
[21:48] <gringo_superstar> i did sudo /etc/init etc as you said and still no 3d graphics
[21:48] <mia_tech> FreeFull: not my laptop is connected to the network
[21:48] <Bodsda> jrib, thankyou for your suggestion, but do you know how to forcefullly install a deb regardless of dependencies or not?
[21:49] <glax> When I do a ping it works fine
[21:49] <dekushrub> i changed my time zone and location for the clock but the weather applet did not update even though the clock did?
[21:49] <FAJALOU> tiyowan:  i got it; in system>prefs> keyboard shortcuts, you add ctrl alt delete to 'logout' in 8.04.1
[21:49] <FAJALOU> and it works
[21:49] <glax> but when I do aptitude install xxx it not find the ip
[21:49] <Bodsda> glax, what happens when you enter the ip into your browser?
[21:49] <gringo_superstar> awflame08: I'm a little slow as I am new to all this shizzle
[21:49] <FreeFull> mia_tech: Why are you using netinstall anyway?
[21:49] <onetinsoldier> Bodsda: i do   dpkg -i --force-depends <package_name.deb>
[21:50] <awflame08> gringo_superstar: Which card do you have?
[21:50] <mia_tech> FreeFull: cd is broken on laptop
[21:50] <Bodsda> thank you kindly onetinsoldier
[21:50] <jrib> Bodsda: I don't help people do things they shouldn't do sorry
[21:50] <glax> Bodsda, it load apache with folder ubuntu
[21:50] <gringo_superstar> awflame08:erm...ang on
[21:50] <pilky> dam i still getting old hostname in email headers.. i need to change this bad... any more clues where to chagne.. resolv.conf hosts namedb etc all (cmd) hostname all changed
[21:50] <mia_tech> FreeFull: I downloaded the install cd and put it on a share on a server
[21:50] <FreeFull> mia_tech: Well, you can do that with the full desktop cd
[21:51] <earthmeLon> lshw -C network shows that my wlan0 is disabled.  Does anybody know how I can enable it?
[21:51] <onetinsoldier> Bodsda: you're welcome.. however, if you do that and don't get the dependencies solved dpkg will always be complaining every time you use it
[21:51] <pilky> aha mailname... hehe thx for letting me ramble
[21:51] <Trijntje> Where should I look for errors when linux is acting realy weird?
[21:51] <Bodsda> jrib, this is my computer, there is nothing (legal) i 'shouldnt' do
[21:51] <Bodsda> onetinsoldier, just trying to learn stuff :) me loves errors :)
[21:51] <mia_tech> Freefull: do you have any other alternatives, cause I put the boot.img on a usb, but the laptop is not booting
[21:51] <onetinsoldier> Trijntje: try  tail -f /var/log/messages
[21:51] <jrib> Bodsda: I didn't say anything about legality...
[21:52] <onetinsoldier> Bodsda: lol. you can read the man pages for dpkg and apt-get...
[21:53] <Bodsda> jrib, no but you not answering someones question because you think they shouldnt do it seems like a strange policy, i would agree with things like not telling them how to rm rf there hard drive due to this channels rules however if someone asks a legitimate question i would warn them of consequences 'and' give them there answer, i will no longer discuss this, in this channel, your choice if you want to continue, just tell me where
[21:53] <mimor> When I ssh to my server over IP it gives me a timeout
[21:53] <Bodsda> onetinsoldier, i tried, i just couldnt seem to phrase it correctly :)
[21:53] <simon_r> i'v managed to boot using live cd.  is there a way of doing a c'lean install from here?
[21:53] <mimor> when I ssh on domain name it works
[21:54] <onetinsoldier> Bodsda: what did you try?
[21:54] <mimor> if I reboot the server, I can ssh on IP again
[21:54] <mimor> what can the cause be?
[21:54] <smo_PenguinStyle> Hey all.  I need some help.  I'm trying to get ramped up on Apache web server administration.  Can someone recommend an IRC channel of people who really know a lot about that subject?
[21:54] <mia_tech> network install anyone?
[21:54] <Bodsda> onetinsoldier, dpkg --force-depends-version <name.deb>
[21:55] <Trijntje> onetinsoldier: thnx, i looked in /var/log/messages, i think its a problem with pulseaudio "too many inputs per sink"
[21:55] <onetinsoldier> Bodsda: i see... yeah, it can be hard getting the syntax correct when you're not familiar with it
[21:55] <Trijntje> could that be the cause of beinig unable to open new programs/windows?
[21:56] <Bodsda> onetinsoldier, yeah, i find man pages syntax confusing quite often
[21:56] <onetinsoldier> Trijntje: oh, i see. all i can say to that is good luck! at least it looks like i pointed you in the right direction to get started. you're welcome. :-)
[21:56] <pisecx> hi. I don't like the solution how to fix ubs problem with virtualbox on 8.10. Is there any simple and (that is more important) right solution how to fix it?
[21:56] <pisecx> I mean faq on virtualbox web site
[21:56] <eseven73> smo_PenguinStyle: #Apache would be the best solution for that
[21:56] <pisecx> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/User_FAQ
[21:56] <earthmeLon> I rebooted my laptop and my wireless isn't working.  Looking for help :D
[21:57] <pisecx> * USB on Ubuntu / Interpid
[21:57] <\\`oot> Hey, has anyone ever gotten a Intel Pro/2200BG [Calexico2] wireless card working in Ubuntu 8.10?
[21:57] <smo_PenguinStyle> eseven73:  I'm logged into it, but there's not a whole lot of traffic there.
[21:57] <arbir> hello
[21:57] <simon_r> am i in the right chat?  if not,what would be a good chat for me? - tks
[21:57] <eseven73> smo_PenguinStyle: just have to be patient in those kinds of smaller channels :)
[21:58] <arbir> i am not able to upgrade my system. i am getting this error http://pastie.org/342705. Can someone please help me
[21:59] <king44> hey every body
[21:59] <arbir> hello king44
[21:59] <LoveGuru> Hello,  have a quick question regarding ssh, when i login to my box through ssh i wan't when i put my login after that it shows my rules before processeding further after put my id and before the password it shows my rules, how can i do that?
[22:00] <king44> (l)
[22:00] <FreeFull> Where is the config file for wpa_supplicant?
[22:01] <dassouki> ubuntu checks my hard drive and outputs the following errors: 1- "root filesystem is currently mounted in read-only mode" 2- groups, lesspipe, command, the, dircolors, command, the, (bash: command not found)
[22:01] <hallowname> FreeFull: i think it's /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf don't quote me tho, google it
[22:01] <kupesoft> What's the recommended ubuntu/devbian distro for a system with a PII 500mhz, 256mb of ram, and 800x600 res
[22:01] <hallowname> kupesoft: XUbuntu
[22:01] <kupesoft> (it's a laptop so hardware upgrades aren't feasible)
[22:01] <onetinsoldier> arbir: i would like to be able to help with that, but don't know if i can. what are you trying to upgrade to? are you currently using ubuntu 8.04?
[22:01] <kupesoft> hallowname: I find XUbuntu too heavy weight for the system
[22:02] <danielbw>  openoffice 3.0 crashes when i click on any of the application menus (File, Edit, View, Insert, Format, Tools, Data, Window, Help) using an nxclient X11 session. I have ubuntu 8.10 installed
[22:02] <hallowname> kupesoft: oh... well maybe a debian minimal install cd (net install) might help
[22:02] <simon_r> if ubuntu fails to install properly, should i try a diff distro?
[22:02] <hallowname> kupesoft: if it can't do that, it can certainly do gentoo ;)
[22:02] <arbir> onetinsoldier: i am using 8.10, i checked the backports in the repository. and while upgrading my machine rebooted. after restarting, i am facing this problem
[22:02] <FreeFull> hallowname: It's not there
[22:02] <FreeFull> kupesoft: Xubuntu
[22:02] <FreeFull> kupesoft: Fluxbuntu then
[22:02] <FreeFull> kupesoft: Fluxbuntu should be fine, even if a little different
[22:02] <FloodBot2> FreeFull: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:02] <FreeFull> FloodBot2: I didn't flood
[22:02] <kupesoft> hallowname: Gentoo -- I don't have the time for that ;p
[22:02] <hallowname> FreeFull: sry, i haven't used it ina while
[22:02] <eseven73> well Xubuntu after all, is labled as a "Heavy" Window manager according to Wikipedia, you'll prolly have to use Fluxbox or something like it.
[22:02] <hallowname> kupesoft: hehe yea fluxbuntu is a good idea
[22:02] <earthmeLon> My wireless networking was working perfectly until last night.  I rebooted my system and now I can't get it to work.  ifconfig shows eth0 and lo while iwconfig shows eth0 and wlan0.  I have no idea where to even start.  Any suggestions would be appreciated :D
[22:03] <kupesoft> FreeFull: Fluxbuntu is really behind the times, it's still on 7.10
[22:03] <hallowname> kupesoft: binary stacks up on an old machine tho...
[22:03] <onetinsoldier> arbir: the system rebooted all by itself? or...?
[22:03] <FreeFull> earthmeLon: Try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[22:03] <LjL> FreeFull, arguing with bots never leads to anything... anyway, your client was probably lagging, as all your messages were received at the same second
[22:03] <FreeFull> kupesoft: It works
[22:03] <kupesoft> hallowname: Binary stacks up?
[22:03] <arbir> onetinsoldier: yeah, it just rebooting itself in the middle of the upgrade.
[22:03] <hallowname> kupesoft: do a unetbootin and install what you need
[22:03] <raylu> FreeFull: ifup :D
[22:03] <FreeFull> LjL: it was lagging
[22:04] <hallowname> kupesoft: yea, gentoo allows you to optimize all the code for say PII instead of i686 or i386... compiling from source results in faster apps...
[22:04] <kupesoft> hallowname: marginally
[22:04] <hallowname> kupesoft: u gotta kno wut ur doin ;)
[22:04] <FreeFull> kupesoft: Indeed, only marginally
[22:04] <hallowname> kupesoft: dsl might me ok for u... evr tried it?
[22:04] <earthmeLon> Thanks FreeFull, now ifconfig shows wlan0.  I used to have something on my panel that let me connect to wireless networks, but it's not there any more.
[22:04] <hackel> Where does one report bugs for packages from ports.ubuntu.com?
[22:04] <kupesoft> hallowname: blah i wanted something debian-esque -- I've tried DSL but prefer puppy
[22:04] <danand> earthmeLon: nm-applet?
[22:04] <romankrv1> I use amarok on Ubuntu (not KUmbutu) but I use skype and they not good work bacause skype is out sound and after it wrong. Help What do I need that fix it?
[22:05] <kupesoft> thanks for all the suggestions guys :)
[22:05] <Woet> Once I try to install Ubuntu, and I select 'Install ubuntu' or 'try ubuntu without change', it loads, then displays a white screen with black stripes.
[22:05] <onetinsoldier> arbir: dang... that's usually the sign of something bad. like a bad device driver or a filesystem problem/error. and i hate to be trying to have you messing with the 'passwd' package. but i can if you want
[22:05] <hallowname> kupesoft: yup
[22:05] <Woet> My video card is a HD Radeon 4870 X2
[22:05] <FreeFull> danand: nm changed into a monstrosity impossible to use in the upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10
[22:05] <arbir> onetinsoldier: this rebooting issue has been there always since ubuntu 7.x. its a hardware error i think. Maybe RAM related
[22:05] <FreeFull> I wish I could get the old nm back
[22:05] <earthmeLon> Not sure, but I added some network applet from the list, but it's not the same thing danand
[22:05] <arbir> onetinsoldier: i just need to get my updates going, or else, i am in a fix. please guide me
[22:06] <onetinsoldier> arbir: oh, i see
[22:06] <romankrv1> Ubuttu is the newest version
[22:06] <danand> FreeFull: it seems ok on my system :)
[22:06] <earthmeLon> It looks like the same icon, though danand  :P
[22:06] <FreeFull> danand: Whenether I try to use it, it doesn't work
[22:06] <tibi> exit
[22:06] <carrerasg> How can I pass options to a nic at boot time? I need to disable checksum offload.  Anyone can help?
[22:07] <FreeFull> danand: and to configure my wireless I had to kill it altogether
[22:07] <earthmeLon> brb danand
[22:07] <Emin> hi
[22:07] <Djet1313> Hello all. I have a weird question to ask. I'm attempting to install 2 debs and I'm getting a confusing error with them. Here's a screenshot to describe what I'm getting.  http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=libpixmanproblemix3.png
[22:07] <onetinsoldier> arbir: really, it's not likely my idea will work. it may very well be a problem with the postinst script, which i probably can't do anything about.
[22:07] <danand> FreeFull: hmmm - have you tried reinstalling the package... maybe some config files got messed in the upgrade...
[22:07] <Emin> hwo knows howto bring the gone titlebar back?
[22:08] <Woet> anyone?
[22:08] <Woet> Once I try to install Ubuntu, and I select 'Install ubuntu' or 'try ubuntu without change', it loads, then displays a white screen with black stripes. Using HD Radeon 4870 X2.
[22:08] <arbir> onetinsoldier: i am really stuck.. so your help is always welcome. i cannot think of anything better at the moment
[22:08] <onetinsoldier> arbir: but you can try and reinstall the package. first, go to  /var/lib/dpkg  ...tell me when you are there
[22:08] <hischild> Woet, tried safe graphics mode? using a single card? tried to take off quiet splash from the boot line?
[22:09] <FreeFull> How do I configure WPA without Network Manager? /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf is not there
[22:09] <Woet> Hmm, just found this topic: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1129804
[22:09] <ShanDooo> http://www.sexyemilie.com/?id=648484
[22:09] <ShanDooo> :)
[22:09] <ShanDooo> Hi all
[22:09] <ShanDooo> :)
[22:09] <hischild> ShanDooo, don't do that in here.
[22:09] <FloodBot2> ShanDooo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:09] <arbir> onetinsoldier: which package are you talking about ?
[22:10] <Slart> isn't there a freenode channel where you can report spam like that?
[22:10] <hackel> Why are Ubuntu's lpia kernels compiled without HIGHMEM support?  That seems crazy...
[22:10] <hischild> Slart, #ops? #spam? wouldn't know.
[22:10] <Djet1313> I'm attempting to install xorg on my comp and was led to a package containing some of the dependencies that I want to use. However, it requires libpixman. So I attemtped to install that. Now the libpixman.deb is telling me that I already have it...
[22:10] <eseven73> Slart: #freenode or #Ubuntu-ops i believe
[22:10] <homunq> help I'm stuck in the Konversation window.
[22:10] <dassouki> I really don't know what's goign on with my ubuntu laptop :( it says that my computer is on readonly , and the mandatory  file check fails
[22:10] <FreeFull> How do I configure WPA without Network Manager? /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf is not there
[22:11] <onetinsoldier> arbir: well, ok. let me ask something different for a sec. i am curious as to what spkg shows for the status of the passwd package. what does dpkg show for the following command?   dpkg -l passwd
[22:11] <arbir> onetinsoldier: hold on
[22:11] <keres> onetinsoldier: radiant is still screwing up, i take back waht i said about it working :(
[22:11] <nobodio> hi i have an intel chipset video..how do i configure the xserver?
[22:12] <arbir> onetinsoldier: http://paste.ubuntu.com/88059/
[22:12] <tARrAScH> Hi!, I want to launch my program with the text from a specific file already written to the programs stdin. The command is something like "app-name < cat file-name". Does anyone recognize something similiar and know the exact command ?
[22:12] <onetinsoldier> keres: oh. perhaps it's an issue withusing a beta version from svn! you could always contact the developer and tell him of the issue. that will help him!
[22:12] <urchin> hi
[22:12] <danand> nobodio: do you know what the chipset is exactly? type lspci in a terminal and see what comes up for vga
[22:12] <keres> onetinsoldier: i'm gonna try that. i'll also try gtkradiant
[22:13] <homunq> can anybody help me? This has happened to me now in feisty, hardy, intrepid; ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu; with or without wireless drivers and hardware; flash or gnash. I can get to the terminal and can see my mouse cursor, but can't get out of this chat window in XFCE, and the mouse only works to select the text I'm writing here.
[22:13] <Guest75009> Noob fråga: Hur loggar jag in i terminalen som en superuser?
[22:13] <nobodio> isnt there a way to configure the vid card anymore?
[22:13] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok, i was just curious. is shows as 'to be installed' but the 'installation Failed'.
[22:13] <Slart> !se | Guest75009
[22:13] <homunq> I'm on a dell latitude d600
[22:13] <hallowname> nobodio: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[22:13] <Slart> !sudo | Guest75009
[22:13] <nobodio> danand: i do
[22:13] <arbir> onetinsoldier: so.. what can be done now ?
[22:13] <hallowname> nobodio: ubuntuforums.org r ur friend
[22:14] <wiretapt>  guys, is it wise to put unionfs ontop of squashfs on my eeepc as an overlay? for more space?
[22:14] <nobodio> hallowname: that leaves me with very little
[22:14] <arbir> !cat | arbir
[22:14] <zeralda> help my compizconfig was working perfectly ...after i restarted my PC ...it doesnt work now :(
[22:14] <Necromankas> How do i install a tar.gz file?
[22:14] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok, do the next stuff carefully. you will be doing everything as root.   cd /var/lib/dpkg  ..tell me when you are in that directory
[22:14] <hallowname> nobodio: ? u want to empty your xorg.conf to defualt?
[22:14] <FreeFull> wiretapt: no
[22:14] <hovse> dzięki kolego za pomoc...
[22:14] <keres> what is gpedit?
[22:14] <arbir> onetinsoldier: i am in there
[22:14] <hovse> #ubuntu-pl
[22:14] <nobodio> hallowname: i mean the reconfigure command does not do anything useful to the xorg.conf
[22:14] <hallowname> nobodio: or you want to do some fanciness in xorg.conf
[22:15] <wiretapt> someone suggested it on the eeepc wiki
[22:15] <hallowname> nobodio: oh... what's the problem?
[22:15] <onetinsoldier> arbir: one sec
[22:15] <earthmeLon> Thank you so much guys.  sudo ifconfig start wlan0 worked perfectly!!!!!
[22:15] <onetinsoldier> arbir: phone call
[22:15] <Guest75009> noob question: how do i login to terminal as superuser?
[22:15] <earthmeLon> or up
[22:15] <arbir> onetinsoldier: no probs. i am waiting :-)
[22:15] <hallowname> Guest75009: 'sudo su'
[22:15] <Flannel> Guest75009: You don't need to log in, just prefix the commands with sudo
[22:15] <nobodio> hallowname: i need an interface to configure the xserver. there isnt one as far i can see
[22:15] <Scrippie> sup?
[22:15] <_wall> sup?
[22:15] <zeralda> any body help  my compizconfig was working perfectly ..it doesnt work now .after i restarted my PC ...:(
[22:15] <Guest75009> tnx
[22:15] <danand> nobodio: do you have the correct modules inserted? what is the chipset of the card?
[22:16] <hischild> hallowname, that's not the way to do it. first of all, best not to suggest it. Second, the preferred way is sudo -i
[22:16] <hallowname> nobodio: oh, there are plenty... i manually edit xorg.conf, but you can browse gnome-apps.org, or kde-apps.org for one
[22:16] <hallowname> hischild: ahh yes, thx
[22:16] <zeralda> hiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[22:16] <hallowname> hischild: i've been away from the ubuntu for a while
[22:16] <hischild> hallowname, np
[22:16] <FAJ> hi how can i add a user with the same home directory as it was before an reinstall?  it ways that that /home directory already exists, but I want that home directory to be used for htat user...
[22:16] <_wall> out of interest
[22:16] <Scrippie> investigating
[22:16] <Flannel> FAJ: Does the user already exist?
[22:17] <nobodio> danand: its 82845g/gl
[22:17] <zeralda> i'v removed it an reinstall it ...but also doesnt work ....(copizconfig)
[22:17] <FAJ> Flannel: it doesn't say that it does:  i reinstalled 8.04.1 and so i have four home directories, with only one user, so i want to add the other users to their directories...
[22:17] <tARrAScH> Hi!, I want to launch my program with the text from a specific file already written to the programs stdin. The command is something like "app-name < cat file-name". Does anyone recognize something similiar and know the exact command ?
[22:17] <nobodio> why isnt there a cconfigurer for the card in ubuntu to begin with?
[22:18] <hallowname> nobodio: lotz of cards... too many configurers... people shouldn't be playing with xorg.conf anyway...
[22:18] <zeralda> come on people
[22:18] <Flannel> FAJ: Ah.  Makes sense.  So you need to re-add the rest of the users. use adduser with --no-create-home
[22:18] <tibi> tarRasch: cat file | your-app
[22:18] <arbir> hey Flannel
[22:18] <Flannel> FAJ: If the users already exist, you can use usermod to modify the homedir for those particular users.
[22:18] <tARrAScH> tibi: Thanks!
[22:18] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok, back. ok, you need to make certain you make a backup of the 'status' file.. tell me when you've done that
[22:18]  * homunq is getting bored of being stuck in chat window. if nobody wants to help me diagnose the problem using terminal, I will have to ctrl-alt-backspace and then diagnosing will be harder.
[22:18] <arbir> onetinsoldier: hold on
[22:18] <Flannel> FAJ: Take a quick glance over the manpages for both those commands before using them, of course.
[22:18] <Flannel> Howdy arbir
[22:18] <nobodio> hallowname: whats the alternative then?
[22:19] <FAJ> Flannel: ok so adduser --no-create-home mom
[22:19] <FAJ> ?
[22:19] <arbir> onetinsoldier: there is already a status and status-old
[22:19] <homunq> I'd love to ask questions in some more-specific forum, but I have no idea what's causing this.
[22:19] <arbir> onetinsoldier: so, i guess they are backed up
[22:19] <keres> onetinsoldier: what is gpedit?
[22:19] <sweetgum> whats the name of the GTK package that includes gtk/gtk.h ?
[22:19] <cow_2001> i have a usb hd with a lvm partition on /dev/lvmvolume/lvol0 is there a way to make it automatically mount the way cds and usb flash drives do?
[22:19] <Flannel> FAJ: Actually, it'd be better if you also forced the UID to be the same as it was.
[22:19] <FAJ> Flannel:  ok how so?
[22:20] <mimor> When I ssh on IP i get a timeout, when i ssh on dns I get in, if I reboot server I can ssh on IP again. Whats wrong?????
[22:20] <Flannel> FAJ: that'd be with the --uid X option
[22:20] <cmv583> all of my bookmarks, and toolbar buttons are gone in firefox and can't figure it out. Also, no back button?!
[22:20] <hischild> mimor, wrong ip?
[22:20] <onetinsoldier> arbir: that shoul be a bcakup, yes. but i would still make one of your own
[22:20] <FAJ> Flannel:  how do i know their uids?
[22:20] <arbir> onetinsoldier: they are backedup .. i just did a diff on both the files... :-)
[22:20] <hallowname> how does one generate a public key again?
[22:20] <mimor> hischild, 192.168.1.3 isn't that hard
[22:20] <hischild> mimor, what does the dns resolv to
[22:20] <zeralda> compizconfig doesnt work ...wht should i do
[22:20] <zeralda> ???
[22:20] <onetinsoldier> keres: sorry. i don't know. bust trying to help someone with major problem right now
[22:20] <Flannel> FAJ: The old homestuffs will be owned by them... lets see, if you ls -al /home/ what do the users that dont exist have for their owners?
[22:20] <arbir> onetinsoldier: done!
[22:20] <onetinsoldier> bust=busy
[22:20] <Feeernando> hola ali
[22:21] <danand> nobodio: try looking to see what modules are loaded to support your gfx card. I had to explicitly add the modules i915, drm, video, intel_agp, and agpgart to /etc/modules to get x working. I then had to manually configure the xorg.conf file... type lsmod in a terminal to see if you have the required modules loaded
[22:21] <FAJ> Flannel:  they actually have the correct users :  mom dad etc.
[22:21] <danand> nobodio: i have an 82830 intel gfx card
[22:21] <mimor> hischild, this is a home server with a fixed ip on, so If I ssh on the domainname it's accessing my server from the router's iP
[22:21] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok... now open the status file with an editor. search for the passwd package. make sure it the area for the file for the package itself
[22:21] <FAJ> Flannel:  they have their own users as if those users existed...
[22:21] <Flannel> FAJ: interesting.  That leads me to think those users may already exist...
[22:21] <hischild> mimor, i mean like how you set the dns, try pinging the dns
[22:21] <Flannel> FAJ: cat /etc/passwd, do you see those users?
[22:22] <FAJ> Flannel:  no
[22:22] <dassouki> is there a way to check and fix a disk that is a fail stupid non linux guru proof
[22:22] <onetinsoldier> arbir: search for the following term    Package: passwd
[22:22] <Flannel> FAJ: Mind pastebinning the output of the ls command?
[22:22] <mimor> hischild, I don't understand what you're asking. Do you want to ping my dns server?
[22:22] <arbir> onetinsoldier: yeah doing that
[22:22] <FAJ> sure.
[22:22] <hischild> mimor, no i want you to ping your server via dns
[22:22] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok
[22:22] <homunq> somebody told me in pm that my problem might be stuck keys.
[22:23] <sweetgum1> can someone tell me the name of the gtk package that installs gtk/gtk.h
[22:23] <raylu> dassouki: i assume that means you had some trouble with fsck?
[22:23] <hischild> mimor, and check if the ip it pings to is the same as what you set it to.
[22:23] <raylu> sweetgum1: http://packages.ubuntu.com, search contents of
[22:23] <mimor> hischild, then I get my fixed IP that routes to my home pc :)
[22:23] <FAJ> Flannel:  http://pastebin.com/m67181c5
[22:23] <hischild> mimor, you verified?
[22:23] <LjL> sweetgum1: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=gtk.h&mode=exactfilename&suite=intrepid&arch=any
[22:23] <dassouki> raylu i'm to scared to even try it
[22:23] <homunq> what stuck keys would let me type just fine but not let me click out of window or use alt-tab (beep when I try alt-tab)?
[22:23] <arbir> onetinsoldier: http://paste.ubuntu.com/88070/
[22:23] <mimor> it is pinging right now, ad it works
[22:23] <raylu> dassouki: nothing bad will happen if you read fsck --help
[22:23] <hischild> mimor, right. you checked your firewall?
[22:24] <mimor> hischild, I can ssh using the dns name, not using the ip. I think you misunderstood
[22:24] <Flannel> FAJ: right.  The stuff all the way on the right is the folder names.  The third column is the UID fo those users (1003 for dad, etc)
[22:24] <homunq> or what terminal command lets me see keyboard state?
[22:24] <hischild> mimor, not at all.
[22:24] <arbir> onetinsoldier: now, what must i change in that text ?
[22:24] <mimor> hischild, why should I check my connection that works?
[22:25] <dassouki> raylu so how bad is -p automatic repairs
[22:25] <FAJ> Flannel:  ok so adduser --nocreatehome --byuuid ?
[22:25] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok. now i want you to delete everything for this package area in the file after the 4th line... so that there's only four lines in there for the passwd package
[22:25] <mimor> hischild, I can both ping the ip and the dns
[22:25] <hischild>  mimor i didnt ask you to check your connection. I'm asking if you have a firewall or anything on your server.
[22:25] <hischild> mimor, and can you SSH into your server now? on both dns and ip
[22:25] <Flannel> FAJ: No, adduser --nocreatehome --uid 1001 theresa
[22:25] <ltracy> Hey, my system seems to be crashing on me.  How can I run fsck on the root partition?
[22:26] <FAJ> Flannel:  sudo?
[22:26] <ltracy> Recovery mode -> root prompt still mounts it.
[22:26] <arbir> onetinsoldier: can you paste the area that needs to be removed, from my paste ?
[22:26] <sweetgum1> raylu; i found libgtk2.0-dev although when i sudo-apt get install it i receive a 404 error
[22:26] <Flannel> FAJ: Yeah.  that *should* default to /home/theresa for a homedir, if it doesn't, you can specify it as well (or change it later)
[22:26] <FAJ> Flannel:  ok
[22:26] <FAJ> thanks
[22:26] <mimor> I have fail2ban on the server
[22:26] <mimor> hischild, I have fail2ban on the server
[22:27] <raylu> dassouki: um, i don't see a -p option
[22:27] <onetinsoldier> arbir: the more i think about it the more i keep thinking this isn't likely to work. i have fixed quite a few people's problems with the method(i call it the sledgehammer method), but on this one.. i have serious doubts
[22:27] <rkessler> Spent 3 hours trying to change my screen resolution...been to how tos..most 3 years old. Just loaded 8.1, screen resolution only shows 800 X 600 and down.  Help on how to get to 1024X768?
[22:27] <dassouki> -p automatic repair (no question) raylu
[22:27] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok, i can do.. one sec
[22:27] <mimor> hischild, ok thx. I forgot I installed that one. Restarting this one seems to work
[22:27] <raylu> dassouki: oh, it's an e2 specific option
[22:27] <hischild> mimor, so it works?
[22:27] <FAJ> Flannel:  it says taht -nocreatehome is not an option
[22:27] <raylu> dassouki: i usually run just the check first
[22:27] <FAJ> Flannel:  it says taht --nocreatehome is not an option
[22:28] <keres> is gtk+ slang for gtk2?
[22:28] <arbir> onetinsoldier: its fine . :-) I am glad, that you are helping.. i was just stuck in deep snow anyways :-)
[22:28] <mimor> hischild, When I restart the fail2ban it works on ip again ... :)
[22:28] <dassouki> sudo fsck raylu?
[22:28] <smo_PenguinStyle> Hey all.  How do I get a list of directory contents recursively pipe it to cat, and then grep the contents...?
[22:28] <ChoboMog> Hey.  Does anyone know if there's a way to reduce the size of the top Gnome panel below 22 pixels?  I've tried using Properties>General and then changing the size, and reducing the font to a size so it won't limit it, but it still stops shrinking around 22px.
[22:28] <raylu> dassouki: yes
[22:28] <Flannel> FAJ: --no-create-home
[22:28] <hischild> mimor, good.
[22:28] <FAJ> ah ok
[22:28] <keres> i'm trying to find gtk+, at least 2.4.0
[22:28] <mimor> hischild, I guess it's banning the IP of my local machine... I'll be back after checking the logs of this one
[22:28] <arbir> onetinsoldier: while we are solving this problem, just out of curiosity, why is this problem occuring ?
[22:28] <onetinsoldier> arbir: from your last pastebin... delete everything starting with line #5... does that make sense? you want to have only 4 lines that refer to the passwd package
[22:28] <arbir> onetinsoldier: alright
[22:28] <hischild> mimor, kk
[22:29] <raylu> keres: why?
[22:29] <dassouki> inodes that wre part of acorrupted orphan linked list found, Fix y,n? what should i do
[22:29] <hallowname> dassouki: fix it
[22:29] <raylu> dassouki: y, i suppose
[22:29] <keres> raylu: in the dependencies list for gtkradiant 1.6, i need 'gtk+ >= 2.4.0 (requires glib, atk, pango, iconv, etc)'
[22:29] <ltracy> great.  HD took a dump
[22:29] <keres> raylu: and i can't find gtk+ in synaptic
[22:29] <keres> raylu: but i can find gtk2
[22:29] <AJF355> hi guys, are the repos down?
[22:30] <arbir> onetinsoldier: done! deleted those lines.. now :-)
[22:30] <Next1> I can't ping localhost.  Help please
[22:30] <AJF355> they aren't working for me
[22:30] <arbir> Next1: check your /etc/resolv.conf
[22:30] <FAJ> Flannel:  if i enabled root for login..., how can i disable it again?
[22:30] <raylu> keres: er, how are you installing gtkradiant?
[22:30] <Flannel> FAJ: sudo passwd -l root
[22:30] <keres> raylu: with scons
[22:30] <arbir> Next1: sorry /etc/hosts
[22:30] <smo_PenguinStyle> Hey all.  Any commandline junkies here?  I'm trying to find out what the commands would be to list directory contents recursively, cat them, and then grep the contents
[22:30] <keres> raylu: sudo scons SETUP=0
[22:30] <raylu> keres: oh... that means you're compiling from source, right?
[22:30] <FAJ> Flannel:  what does that change the pwd to?
[22:31] <keres> raylu: yes. there are no precompiled packages for linux. for any radiant-derivitive.
[22:31] <raylu> smo_PenguinStyle: find | grep
[22:31] <arbir> smo_PenguinStyle: try ls -R
[22:31] <Flannel> FAJ: It doesn't.  It locks it.  The password hash has characters that will never be generated
[22:31] <onetinsoldier> arbir: there could be a number of reasons, why. error in the postinst script. problem with processing your current password file that are in /etc. filesystem error that needs to be fixed with fsck. problem because this package's install was interrupted during the spontaneous reboot(i'm hoping it was just this)
[22:31] <AJF355> stop ignoring me please
[22:31] <FAJ> Flannel:  o ok thansk
[22:31] <earthmeLon> Anybody know of an alternative to PicLens (Cooliris) for Linux?
[22:31] <smo_PenguinStyle> raylu / arbir:  thanks.
[22:31] <DrMrHorse> ahoy, yeah, so i can't get off of 640x480 resolution, i've tried a few things related to the graphics card and drivers but nothings worked
[22:32] <arbir> onetinsoldier: your hopes are correct, it just rebooted out of the blue
[22:32] <Next1> arbir: Got it thanks
[22:32] <erUSUL> smo_PenguinStyle: grep -R pattern directory/
[22:32] <AJF355> :@
[22:32] <arbir> onetinsoldier: now.. that the lines have been deleted..... can you please tell me what i should do now
[22:32] <arbir> Next1: np
[22:32] <arbir> smo_PenguinStyle: np
[22:32] <smo_PenguinStyle> erUSUL:  thanks man.  I appreciate it.
[22:32] <erUSUL> smo_PenguinStyle: no problem
[22:33] <arbir> smo_PenguinStyle: even ls -Rd will only get directories recursively from the current node
[22:33] <sweetgum1> do i have to restart my computer for gtk/gtk.h to be found after installing libgtk2.0-dev?
[22:33] <raylu> keres: i believe + isn't allowed in package names. go ahead with gtk
[22:33] <arbir> smo_PenguinStyle: ls -RD>dir_tree
[22:33] <erUSUL> sweetgum1: you shouldn't
[22:33] <tibi> sweetgum1: no
[22:33] <raylu> keres: you were never able to get netradiant going?
[22:33] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok, one more edit now... on the Status line, edit so it's like this --> Status: install ok not-install
[22:34] <greencookie> how do I make kdm launch automatically on boot?
[22:34] <keres> raylu: vital functions don't work, even with proper dependencies.
[22:34] <raylu> sweetgum1: no
[22:34] <sweetgum1> erUSUL: im getting the message error: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory when trying to compile
[22:34] <raylu> er =\
[22:34] <AJF355> WHOAH that was scary, all the text went down at once
[22:34] <raylu> keres: oh. i only made sure it loaded :D
[22:34] <onetinsoldier> arbir: in other words, change...   half-configured  -to-  not-installed
[22:34] <AJF355> are the repos down guys?
[22:34] <arbir> onetinsoldier: one sec
[22:34] <keres> raylu: i never had a problem getting radiant to load, it was a matter of it being functional
[22:34] <jrib> AJF355: nope.  What errors are you getting? use pastebin
[22:34] <AJF355> it wont let me sudo apt-get install anything
[22:34] <FAJ> AJF355:  i don't think so,,, i just installed of of themmm....
[22:34] <AJF355> :'(
[22:34] <sweetgum1> tibi: im getting the message error: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory when trying to compile, any ideas?
[22:35] <AJF355> im going to cry
[22:35] <tibi> sweetgum1: what are you trying to compile?
[22:35] <raylu> smo_PenguinStyle: oh yeah...you should have no need to cat or grep. find can do everything you want, unless you want to look within files
[22:35] <sweetgum1> tibi: the GTK 2.0 helloworld program
[22:35] <AJF355> I get package not found etc
[22:35] <jrib> AJF355: pastebn
[22:35] <tibi> sweetgum1: check if you have pkgconfig installed
[22:35] <chiliblue__> Does amarok have the rio karma plugin in the stock ubuntu version
[22:35] <AJF355> its just as i said but ok
[22:35] <arbir> onetinsoldier: so the line will look like this ?
[22:35] <arbir> Status: install ok not-installed
[22:36] <erUSUL> sweetgum1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=243004
[22:36] <onetinsoldier> arbir: yes... correct.   then save the file. then show me what you get for...  dpkg -l passwd
[22:36] <sweetgum1> tibi: how do i do that?
[22:36] <arbir> onetinsoldier: one sec :-) i am now excited
[22:36] <sweetgum1> oh the flags to compile with
[22:36] <sweetgum1> ok
[22:36] <AJF355> oh, never mind I have it working again
[22:36] <AJF355> thanks anyways
[22:37] <arbir> onetinsoldier: http://paste.ubuntu.com/88083/
[22:38] <sweetgum1> tibi: how do i install pkg-config
[22:38] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok... now try,  apt-get install passwd
[22:38] <arbir> onetinsoldier: alright
[22:38] <sweetgum1> tibi: nm its installed
[22:38] <arbir> onetinsoldier: i am really hoping for this to get me somewhere
[22:38] <Gnea> !players
[22:38] <onetinsoldier> arbir: me too! think i would like to do all this and have it not work! ha!
[22:39] <arbir> onetinsoldier: no no , but we atleast made the effort
[22:39] <Raffle> hi every time i start up ubuntu it says "H. Frequency 47kHz - V. Frequency 43Hz" anyone know what that is?
[22:39] <onetinsoldier> arbir: roger.. so what happened?
[22:39] <arbir> onetinsoldier: so its saying this
[22:39] <arbir> onetinsoldier: *** useradd (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?
[22:39] <tibi> sweetgum1: how to you try to compile it (what command)?
[22:39] <ikonia> tibi: it's not one command
[22:39] <onetinsoldier> arbir: just press Enter
[22:39] <goog> Hey People! I updated my Ubuntu from 7.10 to 8.04 and to me it looks like its becoming too bloated. For example when I connect my mp3player, some music-application starts. I dont want this kind of guidance. How about Debian these days? I havent used it for years now (switched to ubuntu in 2005). Does it detect most hardware these days? Is it becoming bloated too?
[22:39] <ikonia> tibi: it's important you understand what your doing if your building software
[22:39] <Hisham> Hello every1! I am trying to dualboot Xp and Ubuntu but the problem is that when i delete a ntfs partition to manually make the linux partitions After creating any of the linux partition (/,/boot,etc) the free space is made unusable.Why??
[22:40] <tibi> ikonia: what?
[22:40] <Raffle> hi every time i start up ubuntu it says "Out of Range - H. Frequency 47kHz - V. Frequency 43Hz" anyone know what that is?
[22:40] <tibi> ikonia: I am not compiling stuff...
[22:40] <tonyyarusso> goog: a) this is an Ubuntu channel, not a Debian one, b) so turn off the auto-starting feature.
[22:41] <arbir> onetinsoldier: take a look at this http://paste.ubuntu.com/88085/
[22:41] <weboide> Hi! On my ubuntu server (8.04), when i type "su john" it asks for the password, but after I type one letter it says "su: Authentication error" (i'm over ssh). Any idea? known bug?
[22:41] <onetinsoldier> arbir: was it prompting to install a new config file there? perhaps i shouldn't have told you to just press Enter so quickly
[22:41] <goog> tonyyarusso: where is that auto start thingy?
[22:41] <ikonia> tibi: apologies, thought you where
[22:42] <hischild> !sudo | weboide
[22:42] <arbir> onetinsoldier: so, now what ? :-)
[22:42] <keres> raylu: swert. gtkradiant runs good now.
[22:42] <DEA7H> hey gang, i need a cd ripping tool that doesnt use cdparanoia as its so painfully slow, supports multiple drives, isnt abcde and optionally has a gui
[22:42] <tibi> ikonia: np :)
[22:42] <tonyyarusso> goog: I think it's under System > Preferences > Media or something like that
[22:42] <weboide> hischild: I need to su into the user john
[22:42] <arbir> DEA7H: try k3b
[22:43] <Hisham> Hello every1! I am trying to dualboot Xp and Ubuntu but the problem is that when i delete a ntfs partition to manually make the linux partitions After creating any of the linux partition (/,/boot,etc) the free space is made unusable.Why??
[22:43] <hischild> weboide, sudo su john
[22:43] <DEA7H> arbir: multiple drives, doesnt support it
[22:43] <Ltl> Raffle: you'll probably find that in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; set those values to your manufacturer specs on the moniter.
[22:43] <onetinsoldier> arbir: let's get the passwd package updated correctly first... do you get all those prompt again if you do...  apt-get install --reinstall passwd ?
[22:43] <homunq> Hisham: what tool are you using for partitioning?
[22:43] <arbir> DEA7H: i can use multiple drives with that
[22:43] <pilky> dualboot? youll spend 99% of your time in one OS, if anythign go vmware
[22:43] <arbir> onetinsoldier: let me try
[22:43] <goog> tonyyarusso: no "media or something" in my (german) system menu.
[22:43] <weboide> hischild: I used to type "su john" it worked all the time, now i start typing my password and it stops after one character and say: authentication error
[22:43] <Hisham> homunq: Gparted
[22:44] <DEA7H> arbir: my bad, dud drive
[22:44] <arbir> onetinsoldier: how do you reinstall ? it says invalid operation reinstall
[22:44] <tibi> swaj:
[22:44] <Hisham> homunq: Also does it have to do something with primary and extended partition??
[22:44] <homunq> Hisham: if you have partions 5-8 mixed in with 1-4, funny things happen
[22:44] <homunq> yeah
[22:44] <arbir> DEA7H: no probs :-).
[22:44] <homunq> how many partitions do you have?
[22:44] <jikuty> !gksu
[22:44] <Hisham> homunq: 5 NTFS
[22:45] <onetinsoldier> arbir: apt-get install --reinstall passwd
[22:45] <hischild> weboide, would give you a security risk if you could just switch to another user without a pass right?
[22:45] <arbir> onetinsoldier: alright i get it
[22:45] <homunq> Hisham: I'm here looking for help getting out of my irc window, so you can't pastebin me, but what is your partition structure?
[22:45] <arbir> onetinsoldier: no its not prompting me this time
[22:45] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok.. you get the prompts? say 'Y' to everything
[22:46] <onetinsoldier> arbir: oh
[22:46] <homunq> you should do something like 1 2 3 (4{5 6}) where (4{}) is the extended partition
[22:46] <arbir> onetinsoldier: removing and installing will bring on those prompts again ?
[22:46] <tonyyarusso> goog: Ah, they moved it.  It's in the nautilus preferences now, under the last tab.
[22:46] <Hisham> homunq: all ntfs drive r on extended partitons
[22:46] <jolter> Hello guys! I have an 11mb wlan card on this laptop.. I have now a zyxel 56mb usb wlan how can I get my computer to use my usb wlan?
[22:46] <jolter> and how do I turn of the internal wlan?
[22:46] <weboide> hischild: as user weboide, I used to "su john", then I typed the password for john, it worked. but now it doesn't work anymore...
[22:46] <homunq> hisham: ahh
[22:47] <onetinsoldier> arbir: yes..  do, dpkg -r passwd
[22:47] <homunq> you have one big extended partition?
[22:47] <homunq> that is wrong
[22:47] <weboide> hischild: I think I did it two days ago and it worked, today it doesnt
[22:47] <demonspork> jolter, what reason do you need the faster Wlan card?
[22:47] <homunq> you need to use the primaries too..
[22:47] <hischild> weboide, does it work with sudo?
[22:47] <weboide> hischild: yeah
[22:47] <Hisham> homunq: Ok so i should do the HD partitioning all over
[22:47] <homunq> yeah.
[22:47] <woody86> can anyone help me get my wireless working? It works so far, but I can't find any networks on it
[22:47] <arbir> onetinsoldier: cannot remove it.. dependency error
[22:47] <weboide> hischild: that's weird that "su" doesn't work properly
[22:48] <goog> tonyyarusso: great! thank you. the linux community is always amazing!
[22:48] <weboide> hischild: I mean su only
[22:48] <demonspork> hisham, homunq, there is nothing wrong with putting everything on the extended partition
[22:48] <arbir> onetinsoldier: http://paste.ubuntu.com/88090/
[22:48] <onetinsoldier> arbir: do   dpkg -r --force-depends passwd
[22:48] <fivetwentysix> What's a good SVN gui client for gnome
[22:48] <hischild> weboide, yh ... don't have an explenation for it
[22:48] <Hisham>  demonspork then why is the problem arising??
[22:48] <weboide> hischild: okay, thanks for your help, ill use sudo su for now. ill see if that's a known bug.
[22:48] <Flannel> weboide: su asks for the root password, Ubuntu doesn't use the root account (it's locked)
[22:48] <arbir> onetinsoldier: removed.. so now, install it again ?
[22:48] <LjL> Flannel: not if you're doing "su john" like he said
[22:49] <Flannel> weboide: `sudo -i` will get you a log in shell
[22:49] <weboide> Flannel: even when "su john" ?
[22:49] <homunq> First do 3 primaries, then an extended container, then up to 4 extendeds inside that container. demonspork: AFAIK an extended container can't hold more than 4 partitions.
[22:49] <onetinsoldier> arbir: yes.. then answer 'Y' to installing all the new config files
[22:49] <Raffle> hi every time i start up ubuntu it says "Frquency Out of Range - H. Frequency 47kHz - V. Frequency 43Hz" anyone know what that is?
[22:49] <arbir> onetinsoldier: got it.. hold on letme reinstall it
[22:49] <hischild> Flannel, he wants to switch users with it ... shouldn't ask for it
[22:49] <arbir> onetinsoldier: its not asking me this time when i reinstall
[22:49] <tibi> Raffle: it is calibrating timers... no need to worry
[22:49] <arbir> onetinsoldier: what to do now :-( ?
[22:50] <tonyyarusso> fivetwentysix: rapidsvn, nautilus-script-collection-svn
[22:50] <Flannel> hischild, weboide, LjL: su [otheruser], then [otheruser]s password works here (6.06), so if it doesn't work there, file a bug report
[22:50] <hischild> Flannel, yeh ... =)
[22:50] <LjL> Flannel: it works on Hardy here too
[22:50] <Hisham> homunq: Should i put /boot on primary part??
[22:50] <tonyyarusso> fivetwentysix: svn-workbench perhaps as well
[22:50] <arbir> onetinsoldier: http://paste.ubuntu.com/88093/    this is the error i am getting
[22:50] <onetinsoldier> arbir:  ok, let's still make sure they get installed. ok? do the following....   dpkg --purge --force-depends passwd  ...then reinstall it, and you will 'not' be prompted for about the new config files.. but they will be installed
[22:51] <weboide> LjL: su [user] works for you on hardy ?
[22:51] <homunq> Hisham: doesn't matter AFAIK
[22:51] <jrib> LjL: and on intrepid
[22:51] <LjL> weboide: hmhm
[22:51] <homunq> but I would
[22:51] <princevap> sup ubuntu users............
[22:51] <PupUsere2e059> Intrepid is great, not one issue for me.
[22:51] <Hisham> homunq: ok
[22:51] <onetinsoldier> arbir: tell me when you're done with the above
[22:51] <arbir> onetinsoldier: the purge just finished
[22:51] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok
[22:51] <LjL> weboide: is /bin/su even suid root?
[22:51] <arbir> onetinsoldier: so now, apt-get install passwd ?
[22:52] <princevap> I have this DVB like device that I've been trying to install the driver for, with no avail
[22:52] <onetinsoldier> arbir: yes
[22:52] <homunq> Hisham: if you need to save one of your existing partitions, there are ways.
[22:52] <arbir> onetinsoldier: same error, i am not able to install it
[22:52] <weboide> LjL: i've got -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root
[22:52] <homunq> but if not, just blow it all away and start fresh, much easier.
[22:52] <LjL> so it is
[22:52] <onetinsoldier> arbir: installing passwd bombed out?
[22:52] <LjL> weboide: i don't know, it's weird.
[22:53] <keres> whenever i try to make a link to this program in /usr/local/bin it always ends up broken
[22:53] <arbir> onetinsoldier: yeah.. do you want a pastebin for that ?
[22:53] <almark> Why does Ubuntu's Firefox 3 load pages quicker then other distros?
[22:53] <onetinsoldier> arbir: yeah... sure
[22:53] <Phaedrus2> Having trouble with Last FM applet in AWN, it will not show any info on artist or albulm work
[22:53] <keres> i do 'sudo ln -s /usr/local/games/netradiant-1.5/radiant'
[22:53] <cooldude> #cooldude13233 test
[22:53] <keres> why does it end up broken?
[22:53] <Hisham> homunq: i think i neeed new clean clear partitions
[22:53] <LjL> cooldude: #test for testing please
[22:53] <ikonia> keres: thats not a link command
[22:53] <weboide> LjL, Flannel, hischild: think ill check on #ubuntu-server, thanks guys
[22:53] <arbir> onetinsoldier: http://paste.ubuntu.com/88101/
[22:53] <ikonia> keres: you need a source and a target
[22:53] <keres> ikonia: like?
[22:54] <homunq> Hisham: good. easier that way.
[22:54] <ikonia> keres: ln -s source target
[22:54] <Phaedrus2> any takers on LAST FM applet problems?
[22:54] <ASULutzy> keres: You need to give it another argument
[22:54] <LjL> keres: how would it know what file do you want the link to, er, link to?
[22:54] <cooldude> sorry LjL
[22:54] <jrib> keres: define "broken"
[22:54] <keres> jrib: the X logo appears on it in nautilus
[22:54] <keres> LjL: i want to link to be the name of the app
[22:54] <Phaedrus2> Anyone using Last Fm?
[22:55] <jrib> keres: does /usr/local/games/netradiant-1.5/radiant exist?
[22:55] <arbir> onetinsoldier: so you seen it all ? :-)
[22:55] <keres> LjL: whenever i do this ist usually works
[22:55] <keres> jrib: yes
[22:55] <jrib> keres: does it the symlink still work ok?
[22:55] <keres> jrib: do i include .x86 on the end of it?
[22:55] <LjL> keres: i'm not following you. the "ln" command definitely takes two arguments, the *original filename* and the *link you want to create*. you can't assume it will just guess either.
[22:55] <jrib> keres: well your symlink is just going to be called radiant
[22:55] <jrib> LjL: nah, it works
[22:56] <onetinsoldier> arbir: yes.. just to make sure of what i am seeing, do   dpkg -l passwd   ...then paste into here the last line of output, no need for pastebin
[22:56] <LjL> jrib: yes, my bad. just checked the manpage better.
[22:56] <arbir> onetinsoldier: wait
[22:56] <keres> jrib: 'sudo ln -s /usr/local/games/netradiant-1.5/radiant radiant'?
[22:56] <jrib> keres: let's start over.  Where did you run the command?
[22:56] <arbir> onetinsoldier: ii  passwd                    1:4.1.1-1ubuntu1.2        change and administer password and group data
[22:56] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier,  hiya doing
[22:56] <keres> jrib: from within /usr/local/bin
[22:56] <onetinsoldier> arbir: OK... it's installed
[22:57] <arbir> onetinsoldier: alright .. now, what ? apt-get upgrade ?
[22:57] <onetinsoldier> arbir: hang on a couple minutes... ok?
[22:57] <arbir> onetinsoldier: alright :-)
[22:57] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: hello. what's up?
[22:57] <jrib> keres: what does 'ls -l /usr/local/bin/radiant' return now?
[22:57] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: still have the problem?
[22:57] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: i'm doing good! and you?
[22:58] <Hisham> Can anyone give me a link where i can get a comprehensive guide to manual linux partioning??
[22:58] <keres> jrib: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 2008-12-18 17:57 /usr/local/bin/radiant -> /usr/local/
[22:58] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier,  ya I stil have a perl problem and now a Last fm problem, the perl is the major one been to soo many threads and forums to try and find a solution, even edite dthe en and local myself still nada,
[22:58] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier, doing ok
[22:58] <keres> jrib: with the end of the path on it, it was too long to paste tho
[22:58] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: did you get the locale problem fixed?
[22:58] <jrib> keres: erm.  Ok, do just: readlink /usr/local/bin/radiant
[22:59] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier,  what do you mean locale? the perl locale-gen thingy? nope still wont stop giving me errors
[22:59] <keres> jrib: /usr/local/games/netradiant-1.5/radiant
[22:59] <keres> jrib: the actual file is radiant.x86
[22:59] <jrib> keres: yes, then you need that there
[22:59] <cooldude> sorry about that spam guys
[22:59] <nicholas_> does anyone know a good program for wifi
[22:59] <suup> what is the command for obtain the best source list for my internet connection?
[22:59] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: ok, i did a google search.. what do you get from   cat /etc/defaults/locale
[22:59] <cooldude> i wanted to AMSG that to my own channels :\
[23:00] <arbir> onetinsoldier: this update manager keeps showing me the icon in the system tray/notification area
[23:00] <cooldude> so once again sorry
[23:00] <arbir> onetinsoldier: do you think this background thingie running could cause problems ?
[23:00] <keres> jrib: works now ;)
[23:00] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ignore it for now if you can. perhaps open it up and cancel the updates for now
[23:00] <nlod> Can anyone help me out with some lag issues I've been having on 8.04 Hardy?
[23:01] <suup> could someone help me?
[23:01] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier, says no such file or directory
[23:01] <Gnea> cooldude: you should ask that in #freenode
[23:01] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: ok... problem found
[23:01] <Gnea> suup: apt-spy
[23:01] <Losowski> Linux News Flash...New Stable Linux Kernel:   "The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is:  2.6.27.10     2008-12-18     18:11     UTC"   http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.27.10
[23:01] <cooldude> kk Gnea
[23:01] <nicholas_> kwfi manager used to work but it is not compatible with
[23:01] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier, hallaujah
[23:01] <Phaedrus2> lol
[23:01] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: i think i can get you fixed up... can you wait a bit?
[23:01] <LjL> suup: i'm not sure there is one. there used to be a package that could do that, but it's gone, because it misbehaved and used the Debian repositories
[23:01] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier, ofcourse
[23:01] <nicholas_> 8.10
[23:01] <arbir> onetinsoldier:alright!
[23:02] <suup> LjL thanks
[23:02] <Gnea> suup: er, sorry, apt-spy doesn't work anymore...
[23:02] <fuxxy> I'm trying to get my Creative SB0540 irda reciever working in ubuntu, In gentoo I had to specify what hardware I was using before i built lirc, How do I perform this process in ubuntu?
[23:02] <suup> so there doesn't exist a package for doing that anymore?
[23:02] <blip-> hi all,  downloaded an ubuntu deb package to install... is there any point keeping it on the system so I can uninstall later ?  or can uninstall be done without original deb package ?
[23:02] <nicholas_> yeah
[23:02] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok, hang on plz
[23:03] <Gnea> suup: nope, just use your country code in the URL and it will round-robin for you
[23:03] <secondgenesis> blip, you can get rid of it
[23:03] <wiijii> anyone know much about iptables?
[23:03] <secondgenesis> you can always uninstall via the command line
[23:03] <arbir> onetinsoldier: sure :-)
[23:03] <Gnea> !iptables | wiijii
[23:03] <weboide> LjL, Flannel, hischild : Found it! When Its a program  when you hit ctrl-c when it asks for your password it keeps the non-canonical mode activated or something like that. I think that's why.
[23:03] <LjL> suup: well you could always use some package that does that for generic URLs and feed it a few Ubuntu mirrors, i guess
[23:03] <keres> could someone be kind as to send me the intrepid wallpaper? it's real pretty :)
[23:03] <wiijii> Gnea thanks but I need some slightly more specific information
[23:03] <LjL> weboide: non-canonical mode...?
[23:03] <fuxxy> keres, send it my way when you get it :)
[23:03] <wiijii> and over at #iptables I'm not getting anything
[23:03] <keres> fuxxy: ok :)
[23:03] <Gnea> wiijii: you might get better help in #netfilter
[23:03] <weboide> LjL: when the terminal sends what you type every letter instead of every line
[23:04] <keres> onetinsoldier or raylu: could you send me the intrepid wallpaper?
[23:04] <wiijii> Gnea excellent idea, thanks
[23:04] <onetinsoldier> arbir: i am not certain what to make of this error you're getting  --> ARNING: Module /lib/modules/2.6.27-10-generic/kernel/ubuntu/via_chrome9/via_chrome9.ko is not an elf object
[23:04] <blip-> was the yeah from nicholas_ for me ?
[23:04] <LjL> weboide: ah yes, i think i know what that is, a terminal mode of some description, but i didn't think su used it
[23:04] <arbir> onetinsoldier: hmmm.. so what to do now ? :-)
[23:04] <blip-> shall i keep the .deb so i can uninstall in future ?
[23:04] <arbir> onetinsoldier: reinstall the whole distro ? :-)
[23:05] <onetinsoldier> arbir: no... lol
[23:05] <secondgenesis> blip- no
[23:05] <secondgenesis> you can uninstall from the command line
[23:05] <LjL> weboide: i can't reproduce the issue, at any rate
[23:05] <secondgenesis> you can get rid of it
[23:05] <weboide> LjL: I think another program crashed the terminal, maybe conflicting with su method to ask your password
[23:05] <secondgenesis> keres: http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&q=official+intrepid+ibex+wallpaper&btnG=Search+Images
[23:05] <blip-> k thanks secondgenesis. somehow I though apt-get remove was only for repo installed progs
[23:05] <arbir> onetinsoldier: :-).... my buddie beside me is also laughing at me
[23:05] <Kingsy101> has anyone in here had experience with eeebuntu?
[23:05] <blip-> eeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeee
[23:06] <secondgenesis> blip- it works for programs not in the repos too.
[23:06] <duxbarak> is there a way to easily copy complete partitions from one drive to another?
[23:06] <keres> secondgenesis: thanks
[23:06] <Gnea> Kingsy101: #ubuntu-eeepc seems to have it
[23:06] <secondgenesis> you can uninstall them the same way.
[23:06] <Kingsy101> thanks
[23:06] <blip-> secondgenesis: sounds good. thanks
[23:06] <secondgenesis> sure.
[23:06] <arbir> onetinsoldier: i am just hanging in there .... :-)
[23:06] <ASULutzy> duxbarak: When you say copy
[23:07] <ASULutzy> duxbarak: Do you want to copy each file from partition a to partition b, or do you want to make an exact copy of partition a on partition b
[23:07] <wiijii> Gah, pretty quiet at #netfilter too
[23:07] <onetinsoldier> arbir: let me try and help the other fellow for a bit...ask in here about the error you are getting on that. wehn describing it just put that you are getting...
[23:07] <onetinsoldier> arbir: WARNING: Module /lib/modules/2.6.27-10-generic/kernel/ubuntu/via_chrome9/via_chrome9.ko is not an elf object
[23:07] <duxbarak> i just bought a new 500g drive, so i want to copy everything on my current 80g onto the 500
[23:08] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: ok, hello
[23:08] <arbir> onetinsoldier: alright .... let me ask around
[23:08] <ASULutzy> duxbarak: dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1 would clone sda1 onto sdb1, but if all you want to do is copy all the files from "/" to another drive, you could mount both partitions and then do sudo cp -ax / /target
[23:08] <arbir> onetinsoldier: let me also google around
[23:08] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok. i'll come back to you after a bit
[23:08] <keres> i can't find the default ibex one
[23:08] <ASULutzy> duxbarak: So do this, sudo mkdir /media/newdrive && sudo cp -ax / /media/newdrive
[23:08] <keres> i can find the second one tho :P
[23:08] <secondgenesis> OK...  i'll pm it to you
[23:08] <secondgenesis> keres:  give me a sec.
[23:08] <ASULutzy> duxbarak: Er, you need to mount hte new drive to /media/newdrive of course
[23:09] <ASULutzy> :)
[23:09] <arbir> anybody can please help me with this error ?
[23:09] <arbir> Module /lib/modules/2.6.27-10-generic/kernel/ubuntu/via_chrome9/via_chrome9.ko is not an elf object Failed to run depmod
[23:09] <raylu> onetinsoldier: elf = compiled binary
[23:09] <ASULutzy> sudo mkdir /media/newdrive && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/newdrive && sudo cp -ax / /media/newdrive
[23:09] <duxbarak> ok, thanks, will that work the same with my windows partition?
[23:09] <weboide> LjL: I know I can reproduce something like that for debsign when it asks the password, then it makes the terminal crash
[23:09] <raylu> onetinsoldier: it's (almost) the equivalent of "asdf is not a valid win32 application"
[23:09] <raylu> onetinsoldier: except it's a .so, so somebody really screwed up
[23:10] <ASULutzy> duxbarak: Yea, of course you need to make sure you've got the partition right (I don't know that it's sdb1)
[23:10] <onetinsoldier> raylu: yes... but he's getting an error trying to get the linux-image-2.6.27-10-generic (2.6.27-10.20) package to update...
[23:10] <duxbarak> right, ok, thanks
[23:10] <LjL> weboide: but with su, i tried killing -s 9 it, opening something like nano and then killing -s 9 it and then running sudo... all to no avail
[23:10] <Mal3ko> guys, what is "search isp.com" in resolv.conf for?
[23:11] <raylu> onetinsoldier: woah...what the. i'd run depmod manually
[23:11] <weboide> LjL: okay... well thanks for trying :)
[23:11] <onetinsoldier> raylu: i could use you help on a serious problem someone is having..  they are missing the /etc/default/locale  file.
[23:11] <Phaedrus2> raylu that would be me
[23:11] <raylu> onetinsoldier: not familiar with that; i'm in a cygterm right now
[23:12] <onetinsoldier> raylu: do you know what generates that file?
[23:12] <keres> fuxxy: i'll zip up 2 ibex wallpapers and dcc them to you
[23:12] <bhsx> i'm having a hell of a time getting bmc4318 working with ndiswrapper..  can anyone help me out?  I've got "Wireless Network Drivers" telling me that the drivers are intstalled and the hardwar is present...  then when i click to "Configure Network" everything is locked... including the "Unlock" button...
[23:12] <abel02005> i have a proble to install flash player
[23:12] <Mal3ko> what is "search isp.com" in resolv.conf for?
[23:12] <onetinsoldier> raylu: ok, roger. np
[23:12] <bhsx> i switched /etc/Net.../  to managed=true
[23:12] <bhsx> and still nothing
[23:12] <speaker219> bhsx:
[23:12] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: hello?!? where'd you go?
[23:12] <ASULutzy> bhsx: That card might be supported by the STA driver
[23:12] <speaker219> did you blacklist the ssb modules?
[23:12] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier,  right here mate
[23:12] <secondgenesis> Mal3ko:  sounds like it's for resolving dns names.
[23:12] <bhsx> the STA driver?
[23:12] <speaker219> i'm on a 4318 w/ ndiswrapper too
[23:12] <\\`oot> Evening folks
[23:12] <ASULutzy> bhsx: Are you sure it didn't show up in System -> administration -> hardware drivers (if you're on Intrepid it may very well just work)
[23:12] <fuxxy> keres, kk, thanks (I hope my firewall doesnt get mad)
[23:13] <\\`oot> Are there issues with 8.10 and wireless drivers for the Intel Pro/2200BG chips??
[23:13] <ASULutzy> bhsx: It's the Broadcom proprietary linux driver
[23:13] <bhsx> i'm on 8.10
[23:13] <raylu> Phaedrus2, onetinsoldier: i think it's the locales pacakge, though. reinstalling/reconfiguring "locales" may help
[23:13] <\\`oot> I have been googling like a mad-man, and all I see is problems w/o resolutions
[23:13] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: ok... i don't know what creates that file. it does not seem to belong to any package. but you can create it manually
[23:13] <Invis> ctrl alt delete
[23:13] <speaker219> bhsx: run in terminal: sudo rmmod b44 && sudo rmmod b43 && sudo rmmod ssb && sudo modprobe ndiswrapper && sudo modprobe b44 && sudo modprobe ssb
[23:13] <macrobad> Mal3ko: Afaik, this lets you enter a part of domain name only, e.g, mydomain , and then in case your machine cannot find mydomain, it would look up mydomain.isp.com as well.
[23:13] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier,  oh ya?
[23:13] <bhsx> oh sweet.. didn't know that was there :P
[23:14] <bhsx> seems i've wasted a LOT of tiem :P
[23:14] <raylu> Phaedrus2: i'd suggest doing what i said first
[23:14] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: i would think that  locales-gen  would make it
[23:14] <speaker219> bhsx: worked?
[23:14] <Phaedrus2> raylu, which is?
[23:14] <ASULutzy> bhsx, speaker219: I think he just needed to go to the proprietary drivers section :)
[23:14] <bhsx> well.. it looks like it will... i'm also downloading updates so it's currently locked
[23:14] <speaker219> oh
[23:14] <raylu> Phaedrus2: reinstall/reconfigure the "locales" package
[23:14] <Phaedrus2> raylu,  if your suggesting dpkg reocnfigure did all that shit many times does nothing
[23:14] <bhsx> so it cant download til synaptic is done doin it's thing...
[23:14] <Phaedrus2> raylu,  even reinstalled glibc-common too
[23:15] <Phaedrus2> raylu, nada effect mate
[23:15] <raylu> Phaedrus2: er...why would glibc affect your locales?
[23:15] <Phaedrus2> raylu, because its tied in to the default "c"
[23:15] <ASULutzy> speaker219: If you're on 8.10 afaik the STA driver can work, you can toss ndiswrapper, I did on my personal laptop
[23:15] <raylu> Phaedrus2: the default c?
[23:15] <Phaedrus2> raylu, compiler
[23:15] <Phaedrus2> raylu,  it was offered ona  thread as another solution
[23:16] <Phaedrus2> raylu,  Ive read like 100 threads on this so far
[23:16] <speaker219> ASULutzy: didn't want to use that driver, doesn't even support wireless G speeds, and was slower
[23:16] <teadict> best way to break a file into pieces for posterior storage?
[23:16] <speaker219> afaik (when I tried it)
[23:16] <ASULutzy> speaker219: Eh? I get pretty good speeds on it?
[23:16] <Phaedrus2> raylu, all say similar locale-gen then dpkg -reconfigure or reinstall
[23:16] <speaker219> does it support wireless G?
[23:16] <Phaedrus2> raylu, does nada
[23:16] <ASULutzy> speaker219: Yes
[23:16] <speaker219> hm, I must've used it a long time ago then
[23:16] <ASULutzy> speaker219: Yea, I run g at home, and I can stream video from my desktop to the laptop wirelessly just fine
[23:16] <speaker219> wait, does it support WPA2?
[23:17] <speaker219> trying to remember why i didn't use it ;p
[23:17] <ASULutzy> speaker219: I believe so, and I don't know that you have to trick out WPA_SUPPLICANT
[23:17] <Phaedrus2> raylu, onetinsoldier  do you know what is the language selector package?
[23:17] <ChristianBill> Can anyone help me configure my touchpad?
[23:17] <speaker219> hmm
[23:17] <Invis> Whats E.T short for?
[23:18] <ribas1> ChristianBill: don't know but I will try ;0
[23:18] <hischild> Invis, not in here please.
[23:18] <Weems> when Im using my usb headset I cannot get vlc to play sound...
[23:18] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: no, not exactly. would think it would be the locales and locales-gen packages
[23:18] <ribas1> Invis: extra terrestrial?
[23:18] <Weems> but my headphones work normally
[23:18] <Invis> No, cos hes only got little legs
[23:18] <Invis> :D
[23:18] <ribas1> :)
[23:18] <keres> Invis: from urbanterror?
[23:19] <Phaedrus2> onats, I edited the locales both EN and LOcal manually adding the Eng and UTf properly from another thread it did crap too
[23:19] <arbir> onetinsoldier: i am getting a diff error now
[23:19] <Phaedrus2> oops onetinsoldier read up
[23:19] <Jacroe> how do i turn on the keyboard shortcuts so i can press CTRL + 2 and it will take me to tab 2?
[23:19] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok.
[23:19] <Mal3ko> how do we sync system clock using terminal?
[23:19] <Mal3ko> and check timezone setting
[23:19] <hischild> Invis, please take that chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, ok?
[23:19] <Invis> nope
[23:19] <arbir> onetinsoldier: i managed to upgrade most of the packages, and now, i am stuck with upgrading the kernel..
[23:19] <secondgenesis> Jacroe:  Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts?
[23:19] <Invis> what is ubuntu?
[23:19] <LjL> Invis: yes
[23:19] <arbir> onetinsoldier: and this is where the passwd package is failing
[23:19] <LjL> !ubuntu > invis    (invis, see the private message from ubottu)
[23:19] <wiijii> No iptables gurus around then?
[23:20] <ribas1> Jacroe: wondering that myself....
[23:20] <mib_975o21> Rescue mode (not single-user) in Intrepid Ibex changed (at least from the last time I used it), anybody point me in the right direction?
[23:20] <onetinsoldier> arbir: well, i couldn't find your message that showed a different error
[23:20] <ASULutzy> speaker219: Yea, I would definitely at least check it out, I've been very happy so far with it, although I must admit, I was one of the few people that didn't have that much beef with ndiswrapper, it usually worked fairly well fo rme
[23:20] <arbir> onetinsoldier: one sec.. posting it :-)
[23:20] <Jacroe> secondgenesis: I looked and I haven't found anything about shortcuts
[23:20] <ASULutzy> speaker219: Still, I'd recommend giving it a look
[23:21] <ChristianBill> ribas1: Did you see my message?
[23:21] <arbir> onetinsoldier: http://paste.ubuntu.com/88118/
[23:21] <arbir> onetinsoldier: sorry, its the same error. my bad
[23:22] <meekatron>  hello havin problems with ssh. i can access no problems over my internal network but when i try to access from the external network i cant seem to access. seem to have port forwarding all set up ok cant seem to see anything wrong anyone any ideas
[23:22] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier, maybe I should do a reinstall here, I need to keep my preferences for wifi and bash, is there a quick way to backup before a reinstall?
[23:22] <wiijii> meekatron firewall?
[23:22] <onetinsoldier> arbir: not your fault..i was actually reading someone else and thought it was you. i'll get back with u in a bit. keep asking about that error every so often. every few minutes...
[23:22] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier,  I mean everything else is working fine just that perl issue
[23:23] <arbir> onetinsoldier: yes, i am doing that
[23:23] <ASULutzy> meekatron: Sounds like your port forwarding isn't setup right ;)
[23:23] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: would you like to try a thing or two first?
[23:23] <meekatron> wiijii: yeagh i think i have port forwarding through the router firewall
[23:23] <wiijii> meekatron What about iptables/firewall on the local machine?
[23:23] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier, sure such as Ive tried many lol
[23:23] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: i haven't gotten to trying anything with you yet.. i was hoping raylu would have something.. but i guess not
[23:23] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier, no worries
[23:24] <meekatron> ASULutzy: its gotta be somethin stupid prob staring right at me
[23:24] <wiijii> Well actually no, you say the internal net can connect?
[23:24] <ty> hello, which would be better for webserving: debian or ubuntu?
[23:24] <wiijii> So the machine is allowing incoming SSH connections
[23:24] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: ok.. go to /etc/default dir... tell me when you are there
[23:24] <Phaedrus2> sure
[23:24] <cmv583> anyone help?
[23:24] <ASULutzy> meekatron: It pretty much has to be a port forwarding issue. I mean if you can do ssh 192.168.0.100 and it works, but when you do ssh your.ip.address.here and it doesn't work, then your router must not be forwarding that to the right machine
[23:24] <jayde_drag0n> Jack_Sparrow: hey are you around?
[23:25] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier,  hrmmm i dont have a /etc/defaults folder ugh.. no etsy ugh
[23:25] <danielbw>  openoffice 3.0 crashes when i click on any of the application menus (File, Edit, View, Insert, Format, Tools, Data, Window, Help) using an nxclient X11 session. I have ubuntu 8.10 installed
[23:25] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: yep.. reinstall
[23:25] <ty> !ubuntu rocks!
[23:25] <j_bsdxinu> daniel-w, force reinstall
[23:25] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier,  I have a default in etc not a defaults
[23:26] <Phaedrus2> am I missing something?
[23:26] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: ok....
[23:26] <onetinsoldier> then you in there?
[23:26] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier, k yes
[23:26] <meekatron> ASULutzy: i think it might just be a dumb router it is set up properly i`ll have another go.. it does ask me for a password though whe trying to access with my extern ip address which is weird i thik
[23:26] <Phaedrus2> there is a locale file
[23:26] <danielbw> j_bsdxinu, force re-install of what? openoffice?
[23:26] <parthbakshi> i upgraded from ubuntu 8.04->8.10 and had no issues while upgrading /however gnome startup time is > 1.10 mins any idea how do i reduce this to some acceptable value
[23:26] <ASULutzy> meekatron: Oh, so you do get through... hmm, you could check /etc/ssh/ssh_config see if there's something weird in there
[23:26] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier, this is what is in locale LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
[23:26] <Phaedrus2> LANGUAGE="en_US:en"
[23:27] <shake> how can I dump full make output to a file?
[23:27] <LjL> Phaedrus2: err, he *said* "default" to begin with
[23:27] <jayde_drag0n> okay to anyone who can help, i've just done a frwesh install on my system of everything windows and ubuntu (only for eq reasons) but now i need to edit my grub so it sees windows  ubuntu is located "(hd1,0)" and thats /dev/sdb.. windows is located at /dev/sda.. how do i find out what the hd code is so i can enter it into the menu.lst? help a girl out??
[23:27] <danielbw> j_bsdxinu,  re-installing openoffice.org does not work
[23:27] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: ok, hmmm. mine only has....  LANG="en_US.UTF-8" ..but the second line you havemay be allright, i'm not certain.
[23:27] <Phaedrus2> LjL, thank you for the correction, my apologies onetinsoldier
[23:27] <meekatron> ASULutzy: i sort of get through on y internal ip i get my welcome banner then it asks for password.. with extern ip i dont get welcome banner but it does ask for password
[23:28] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: run the command   locale -a
[23:28] <danielbw> j_bsdxinu,  I've already done that twice...
[23:28] <Phaedrus2> k
[23:28] <LjL> shake: i guess like with anything else, "make >filename"
[23:28] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier,  has errors at top which I posted to pastebin earlier
[23:28] <shake> LjL: I can't get full output to file like that :\
[23:28] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: make a backup of the file, take out the second line, and try again
[23:28] <ASULutzy> meekatron: Oh, that doesn't sound like a port forwarding issue anymore... I'd paste your /etc/ssh/ssh_config to a pastebin
[23:29] <LjL> shake: well, stderr will not be redirected with that syntax, is that the issue?
[23:29] <parthbakshi> i upgraded from ubuntu 8.04->8.10 and had no issues while upgrading /however gnome startup time is > 1.10 mins any idea how do i reduce this to some acceptable value
[23:29] <m0u5e> where is resolution information stored in gnome...?
[23:29] <shake> yes.. I guess
[23:29] <bhsx> ok everything's working, thanks ASULutzy
[23:29] <ASULutzy> bhsx: No problem, glad to hear it
[23:29] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier,  same error
[23:30] <AndreasMadrid> hi!
[23:30] <m0u5e> like... where is monitor resolution stuff stored?
[23:30] <shake> LjL: yes.. I guess
[23:30] <jayde_drag0n> ﻿okay to anyone who can help, i've just done a frwesh install on my system of everything windows and ubuntu (only for eq reasons) but now i need to edit my grub so it sees windows  ubuntu is located "(hd1,0)" and thats /dev/sdb.. windows is located at /dev/sda.. how do i find out what the hd code is so i can enter it into the menu.lst? help a girl out?? and if you are looking it up, could you say something to me to i don't spam the 
[23:30] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier,  is a symlink missing or somethinjg?\
[23:30] <AndreasMadrid> why can i install only 4 keyboard layouts in the panel?
[23:30] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: dang.. i'm not sure what to think. i can try and dig around a little
[23:30] <LjL> shake: then try "make >filename 2>&1"
[23:31] <shake> LjL: thx
[23:31] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier, ahh its cool, on another notE i think im gonna reinstall to fix all this mess from going from xubuntu to ubuntu in one system, I need to backup my bash rc and my etho wirless config,
[23:31] <ASULutzy> jayde_drag0n: /dev/sda is (hd0,0)
[23:31] <ASULutzy> well, /dev/sda1 is
[23:31] <arktvrvs> is there a package to install all the manpages that seem to be missing? like regex(3)..
[23:32] <jayde_drag0n> ASULutzy: thank you!!! i'll try that and be back with results
[23:32] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: ok, sorry i couldn't help.. i wish i could figure out what the heck is wrong there!
[23:32] <parthbakshi> i upgraded from ubuntu 8.04->8.10 and had no issues while upgrading /however gnome startup time is > 1.10 mins any idea how do i reduce this to some acceptable value
[23:32] <ASULutzy> jayde_drag0n: If you want to be trickier, you can do sudo blkid /dev/sda1
[23:32] <LjL> arktvrvs: that page is probably in "manpages-dev"
[23:32] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: good luck man
[23:32] <ASULutzy> jayde_drag0n: and that will you the UUID of the drive, but eh
[23:32] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier, no worries, do you know off hand how to backup wireless config and passwords? im checking online now
[23:33] <jayde_drag0n> ASULutzy: i'm not sure how it would want me to type that.. let me try it the first way.. if thats not it.. i'll come back and you can help me walk thru it??
[23:33] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier,  whops got booted
[23:33] <arktvrvs> thanks LjL
[23:33] <ASULutzy> jayde_drag0n: Yea, the easiest way is probably to just do the root (hd0,0) (If windows is on /dev/sda1)
[23:33] <arbir> anybody can help me with this problem please ? WARNING: Module /lib/modules/2.6.27-10-generic/kernel/ubuntu/via_chrome9/via_chrome9.ko is not an elf object Failed to run depmod
[23:33] <onetinsoldier> arbir: nope. at least not for wireless. and as far as passwords go.. i'm not certain it'd be a good idea to try and back them up but i might know where they are
[23:34] <raylu> ASULutzy: i find it easier to answer "devices.map" and "sudo fdisk -l"
[23:34] <arbir> onetinsoldier: ??? i think u addressed the wrong message to me :-)
[23:34] <Phaedrus2> anyone know how to backup a wireless config?
[23:34] <onetinsoldier> arbir: oops.. sorry
[23:34] <ASULutzy> raylu: Yea, I would have done sudo fdisk -l (but she said she knew it was /dev/sda)
[23:34] <raylu> Phaedrus2: the networkmanager config?
[23:34] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2:  nope. at least not for wireless. and as far as passwords go.. i'm not certain it'd be a good idea to try and back them up but i might know where they are
[23:34] <arbir> anybody can help me with this problem please ? WARNING: Module /lib/modules/2.6.27-10-generic/kernel/ubuntu/via_chrome9/via_chrome9.ko is not an elf object Failed to run depmod
[23:35] <Phaedrus2> raylu,  im just trying to backup my config so when I reinstall I dont have to do ti all over again
[23:35] <raylu> arbir: have you tried running depmod manually?
[23:35] <raylu> Phaedrus2: i thought you were reinstalling xubuntu?
[23:35] <arbir> raylu: how do i do that ?
[23:35] <ASULutzy> raylu: Though, she didn't say that it was /dev/sda1 specifically, I just assumed that, which in retrospect is dumb, since she could have one of those tricky factory restore type partitions and Windows could actually be on /dev/sda2
[23:35] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: for passwords.. i beleive it's be the files...  /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
[23:35] <raylu> arbir: i'd tell you, but i'm not on ubuntu right now
[23:35] <arbir> raylu: what are u on ?
[23:35] <Phaedrus2> raylu,  I am but I lost my wpa key and need to keep the one I have on here in the config file
[23:35] <arbir> raylu: WIN - DOS ? :-)
[23:35] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok,, get anywhere yet??
[23:35] <raylu> arbir: vista + cygterm
[23:36] <arbir> onetinsoldier: nowhere yet
[23:36] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier,  wirless passwords too?
[23:36] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: no ideas there
[23:36] <raylu> Phaedrus2: again, is it configured in networkmanager?
[23:36] <ASULutzy> raylu: You can view your wireless password via network manager pretty easily
[23:36] <arbir> onetinsoldier: its the linuxkernel packages that are causing this update issue, all other packages updated nicely
[23:36] <ASULutzy> raylu: Sorry mistel, was meant for Phaedrus2
[23:36] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: i have no idea about wireless or wireless passwords
[23:36] <meekatron> ASULutzy: sorry about the wait not too hot running around the command line... http://pastebin.com/m57b96001
[23:36] <Phaedrus2> raylu,  I know Im  looking for the config file itself like etho config etc..
[23:36] <arbir> onetinsoldier: just so that you know, ihad enabled backport
[23:36] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ahh, good.  and/or bad?
[23:37] <raylu> Phaedrus2: /etc/network/interfaces
[23:37] <ASULutzy> Phaedrus2: If you are going to do it, you should add /etc/group to the aforementioned /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
[23:37] <shake> LjL: I'm getting different errors when i stream it to file. Can it cause another errors? Seems strange.
[23:37] <Phaedrus2> raylu, already there lol but thanks cool
[23:38] <Jeaton> what's a good webserver for linux?
[23:38] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok, i don't know what to think of enabling backports. you didn't enable 'proposed updates'... correct?
[23:38] <arbir> onetinsoldier: basically three packages
[23:38] <arbir> 1. Linux-headers-2.6.27-10 , Linux-headers-2.6.27-10-generic    and Linux-headers-generic
[23:38] <ASULutzy> meekatron: Do you also have the output of /etc/ssh/ssh_config (instead of sshd_config), I'm wondering if you have the host * line
[23:38] <raylu> Jeaton: apache/lighttpd
[23:38] <Jeaton> thanks
[23:38] <arbir> onetinsoldier: let me check
[23:38] <allsystemsarego> is avahi critical to the functioning of Ubuntu?
[23:38] <jayde_drag0n> ASULutzy: okay i tried that.. and i got the error NTLDR is missing.. did i do it right? the way i re-did my whole computer... i wiped everything off all drives... installed windows first on the first hard drive (because i know that grub would be missing.. then i installed ubuntu on the second drive.. and now just edited grub to resolve the boot issue.. did my installations cause the problem.. or did i put the wrong thing into GRUB?
[23:38] <Amun> why should i switch from windows to ubuntu? i don't game hardly... except solitaire... what are the HIGH points of it?
[23:38] <meekatron> ASULutzy: oops give me a sec
[23:38] <ASULutzy> jayde_drag0n: do sudo fdisk -l and paste the output to a pastebin
[23:39] <arbir> all are checked onetinsoldier
[23:39] <raylu> Amun: your mouse is slow, your keyboard is fast => the terminal is awesome
[23:39] <gimpscape> what is the proper way of disabling services in Ubuntu? I used to eydit filenames in /etc/rc3/ under Debian, but that directory is empty in Ubuntu
[23:39] <arbir> onetinsoldier: pre-released updates and backports
[23:39] <LjL> shake: seems strange indeed
[23:39] <raylu> gimpscape: update-rc.d, invoke-rc.d
[23:39] <ASULutzy> Amun: This is something to google, but in a nut shell, no viruses, no malware/spyware, it's completely open source and free (not just free in price, but free as in you can modify it how you see fit), it's considerably more secure, the community is awesome, and the next release is going to be "Jaunty Jackalope", (Jackalope is an awesome animal)... So those are a few ;P
[23:40] <jayde_drag0n> ASULutzy: http://pastebin.com/m5e09520f
[23:40] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ahhhh, i see
[23:40] <raylu> ASULutzy, Amun: on the downside, the current release is named "Interped Ibex"...
[23:40] <Izinucs> Amun: no virus's, spyware etc. most everything you use the computer for is either preinstalled or available with just a couple clicks. It's also a great new adventure! Learn something new.. and your computer won't go out of date nearly as fast as on WinXx
[23:40] <DjViper> gimpscape: you can do that from the services menu
[23:40] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok, you ready to fix this?
[23:40] <ASULutzy> jayde_drag0n: Hmmm, and what does your /boot/grub/menu.lst look like
[23:40] <arbir> onetinsoldier: so, now what can be done ? what is the cause of this error!!! i am ready to fix this
[23:40] <raylu> *intrepid
[23:40] <jayde_drag0n> just a sec i'll paste bin it
[23:41] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok...  cd /var/cache/apt/archives
[23:41] <arbir> onetinsoldier: alright
[23:41] <meekatron> ASULutzy: http://pastebin.com/m72f2aa42
[23:41] <arbir> onetinsoldier: in there
[23:41] <jayde_drag0n> ASULutzy: http://pastebin.com/d5436d542
[23:41] <arbir> onetinsoldier: where are you based ? US or elsewhere ?
[23:42] <onetinsoldier> arbir: yes... Denver, Colorado USA
[23:42] <onetinsoldier> arbir: and you?
[23:42] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier,  I even reinstalled language selector didnt work either as an aside
[23:42] <raylu> jayde_drag0n: you'll want to put it either before or after the debian automagic stuff
[23:42] <arbir> onetinsoldier: Calgary, ALberta, Canada
[23:43] <ASULutzy> jayde_drag0n: that looks right to me, the only thing I can think of is add it after the automagic section
[23:43] <arbir> its a cold day @ onetinsoldier
[23:43] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: roger that. good try. dang. i can't believe this can't be fixed!
[23:43] <jayde_drag0n> ASULutzy: so erase where its at and repaste under the bottom ###
[23:43] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier,  no shi&* it sucks, its killing me to reinstall that reminds me of  winblows too much
[23:43] <arbir> onetinsoldier: -8F or -22C, with wind chill its -23F or -30C
[23:43] <onetinsoldier> arbir: been cold here lately too. must be coming from you guys up there. thanks :-P
[23:44] <arbir> onetinsoldier: we pass the buck to the north west territories
[23:44] <Phaedrus2> arbir, where at?
[23:44] <ASULutzy> meekatron: Hmm, no idea that's weird...  I don't know, I'd post on the forums, sorry I don't see anything too weird
[23:44] <arbir> Phaedrus2: here in Calgary, Canada
[23:44] <Phaedrus2> arbir,  I used to live in Kalamazoo Mi, one week of -40
[23:44] <Phaedrus2> F
[23:44] <ASULutzy> jayde_drag0n: Yea, but that shouldn't stop it from loading... Here's a trick you can try too so you don't have to boot all the way into Ubuntu each time to retry
[23:44] <arbir> Phaedrus2: it was -40 with wind chill all of last week here :-((
[23:44] <onetinsoldier> Phaedrus2: i'll bet this can be fixed, we just don't know how. it still may be something with glibc/libc6
[23:45] <gimpscape> why I don't see services such as CUPS daemon or MPD under System -> Administration -> Services? I'm sure they are started everytime when I boot
[23:45] <arbir> onetinsoldier: now back to the kernel issue.. i am in that director
[23:45] <Phaedrus2> arbir, ya never again, keep warm :oP
[23:45] <meekatron> ASULutzy: no probs thanks anyway i`ll let ya know if i fix it any time soon
[23:45] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok... roger. hang on
[23:45] <Phaedrus2> onetinsoldier,  I agree not sure what it is
[23:45] <ASULutzy> meekatron: Yea good luck, sorry I wasn't more helpful
[23:45] <arbir> Phaedrus2: thanks.. we need all ur warm wishes :-)
[23:45] <Phaedrus2> ASULutzy,  any ideas on fixing locale problems?
[23:45] <raylu> meekatron: what did you mean by "can't access?" is it a refusal or a timeout?
[23:46] <arbir> Phaedrus2: my car got stuck in the snow... all season tyres suck. i need winter tyres
[23:46] <Phaedrus2> arbir,  global warming seems to be effecting the lower 48 though, not cold this year at all
[23:46] <Phaedrus2> arbir,  nice
[23:46] <geimhre> I'm a newb with several problems, anyone willing to help me in a private chat?
[23:46] <raylu> gimpscape: is it in /etc/init.d?
[23:46] <Gnea> arbir: kitty litter.
[23:46] <bowerw> anyone give me some advice. i did a lv encrypted root install. i also removed vista and encrypted that partion to. i now want to put vista back on that partion. how will i be able to fix grub
[23:46] <teadict> best way to break a file into pieces for posterior storage?
[23:46] <Phaedrus2> geimhre,  are you buying the drinks? I dont put out on first date so you know lol\
[23:46] <arbir> Phaedrus2: driveway gets icy, hate it, showelling helps me burn 600 calories.... :-)
[23:46] <ASULutzy> Sorry all, I'm going to get out of work before it gets any later. If that Jayde person comes back, someone tell her that she can push 'e' at the grub menu to edit lines from there and then 'b' to boot them, that way there she doesn't have to keep rebooting to Ubuntu just to try fiddling with grub
[23:46] <ribas1> anyone can tell me why i don't have a context menu when i choose browse using to add an attachment, I mean right click with option to open
[23:47] <Ltl> Phaedrus2: try running 'localeconf' in a terminal, best check the man page
[23:47] <raylu> teadict: tar may do what you want
[23:47] <Phaedrus2> Ltl,  did that too but Ill retry
[23:47] <n8tuser> whose got a toshiba with AR5006eg wireless and got it working? which driver did you use?
[23:47] <keres> onetinsoldier: i now notice gtkradiant will only run in debug mode now :(
[23:47] <ribas1> gnome
[23:47] <geimhre> don't accept the drinks if you don't want to get dater43ped
[23:47] <allsystemsarego> teadict, , the split command
[23:47] <keres> onetinsoldier: which means it is unstable and a bunch of orange crap is everywhere
[23:47] <teadict> alrighty
[23:47] <onetinsoldier> keres: roger that is a  :-(
[23:47] <Ltl> Phaedrus2: a synaptic search lists all locales,install one...?
[23:48] <Gnea> geimhre: that's offtopic, and you're best to just ask your real question here in the channel, it'll make it easier for people to help you.
[23:48] <Phaedrus2> Ltl,  i dont have localeconf only localedef
[23:48] <Phaedrus2> Ltl,  did that though
[23:48] <bowerw> anyone give me some advice. i did a lv encrypted root install. i also removed vista and encrypted that partion to. i now want to put vista back on that partion. how will i be able to fix grub
[23:48] <onetinsoldier> keres: yeah... i hear you. you have to expect that when using svn sources
[23:48] <Gnea> !grub | bowerw
[23:49] <Ltl> Phaedrus2: got a locale? dpkg-reconfigure locale maybe
[23:49] <princevap> I'm having lots of trouble installing this DVB Tv tuner driver http://konstantin.filtschew.de/v4l-firmware/firmware_v3.tgz though I've never installed a driver on ubuntu
[23:49] <Phaedrus2> Ltl,  did that too nothing
[23:49] <Phaedrus2> Ltl,  I also did locale-gen
[23:49] <arbir> onetinsoldier: i m back with a hot cup of Chai :-)
[23:49] <onetinsoldier> arbir: what do you get when you do...   ls linux-image-generic*
[23:49] <arbir> arbir: hold on
[23:49] <Ltl> Phaedrus2: no results in synaptic with all repos enabled? ive got tons!
[23:49] <arbir> onetinsoldier: linux-image-generic_2.6.27.10.13_i386.deb  linux-image-generic_2.6.27.9.13_i386.deb
[23:49] <bowerw> nice ubottu
[23:50] <keres> onetinsoldier: you have to compile from the svn though...
[23:50] <geimhre> first thing, I have 4gb of ram and it only recognizes 3. However, Wubi was able to pick up on all 4
[23:50] <Phaedrus2> Ltl,  results as in?
[23:50] <keres> onetinsoldier: and most people have success.
[23:50] <onetinsoldier> arbir: after hearing that i need to go make a cup of hot chocolate :-)
[23:50] <bowerw> i did try this once before with lilo
[23:50] <bowerw> slackware
[23:50] <white-sheep> !sync > white-sheep
[23:50] <bowerw> but it didnt work
[23:50] <onetinsoldier> keres: oh.. i see
[23:50] <white-sheep> !unison > white-sheep
[23:50] <Ltl> Phaedrus2: search locale i imagine, i'll check.
[23:50] <Phaedrus2> Ltl,  packages come upsure but compare them to what ? ya know
[23:50] <raylu> keres: you could try using an older revision
[23:50] <Gnea> white-sheep: please /msg ubottu
[23:50] <arbir> wonders how, Bunnys live in this cold and hop happily in the snow
[23:50] <raylu> white-sheep: if you want it as a msg, just msg the bot
[23:50] <keres> raylu: it is an older version... lol
[23:50] <raylu> keres: oh :(
[23:50] <keres> raylu: i tried 1.5 and 1.6
[23:51] <arbir> onetinsoldier: my chai is spcied up with cinnamon, cloves and ginger :-)
[23:51] <raylu> keres: from branches?
[23:51] <arbir> onetinsoldier:  u there or gone away to make hot chocolate ?
[23:51] <white-sheep> raylu -- Sharing ~/ directory between two computers would sync everything?
[23:51] <onetinsoldier> arbir: cani come over to your house? lol     ok, here we go... but give me a few moments here first
[23:51] <keres> raylu: branches? um, idk
[23:51] <raylu> white-sheep: that depends on how you "share" them
[23:51] <raylu> keres: what did you checkout then?
[23:51] <keres> raylu: i just did a grab from an svn
[23:51] <Ltl> Phaedrus2: try a search on language
[23:51] <onetinsoldier> arbir: stay here for a bit.. this shouldn't taske too awful long
[23:51] <Arrowhead212002> whats crackin
[23:51] <arbir> onetinsoldier: sure.. you are welcome to come anytime :-). just that its cold outside, so by the time u reach here, you will be half frozen
[23:52] <arbir> onetinsoldier: i am here....
[23:52] <Phaedrus2> Ltl, Im adding a few packagaes and I did search on language anduge selector already reinstalled langa
[23:52] <onetinsoldier> arbir: lol
[23:52] <raylu> keres: can you link me to the svn?
[23:52] <Phaedrus2> ugh typo
[23:52] <white-sheep> raylu -- Softwares and personal folders placed under ~/
[23:52] <keres> raylu: 'https://zerowing.idsoftware.com/svn/radiant/GtkRadiant/branches/1.5/'
[23:52] <raylu> keres: that is branches :P
[23:52] <arbir> raylu: where are you from ?
[23:52] <raylu> arbir: why? and you've been off-topic for a while now
[23:52] <RickZilla> How can I install a .bin file in ubuntu?  Specifically, I downloaded Google Earth from their website (not the synaptic package) and would like to install...thanks in advance for your help
[23:52] <Phaedrus2> raylu,  lol its cold in Calgary lol
[23:53] <raylu> RickZilla: sh "foo.bin"
[23:53] <keres> raylu: what does that mean?
[23:53] <Ltl> Phaedrus2: better google, i've never needed to change locale, however i have localeconf and locale in terminal?
[23:53] <arbir> raylu: i have been  waiting for onetinsoldier, to help me, out so i thought i might as well socialize.. sorry if i offended you!
[23:53] <raylu> keres: normally, branches are used for stabilize/freeze versions of the repository
[23:53] <Phaedrus2> Ltl, ahhhh interesting thanks for info mate
[23:53] <RickZilla> raylu:  the name of the package in place of "foo"?
[23:53] <raylu> arbir: no problem. you should check out #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:53] <keres> raylu: ok?
[23:53] <tsrk> what's the simplest way to play a sound file from the command line via ssh?  (i want to play the file on the remote machine and it's located on the remote machine)
[23:53] <onetinsoldier> arbir: what is the output of  uname -r
[23:54] <raylu> keres: i was just wondering if you checked out the latest source or branches. since it's the latter, i have no idea; you should try their support channels
[23:54] <raylu> RickZilla: yes (obviously)
[23:54] <arbir> onetinsoldier: uname -r
[23:54] <arbir> 2.6.27-9-generic
[23:54] <Ltl> tsrk: try aplay
[23:54] <white-sheep> raylu -- Softwares and personal folders placed under ~/
[23:54] <raylu> white-sheep: um, i don'tunderstand what you mean
[23:54] <keres> raylu: i just found their irc. few are on, though.
[23:54] <raylu> white-sheep: placing files in ~ alone doesn't share them
[23:54] <RickZilla> raylu:  Still kind of a newbie here, so nothing is obvious to me yet :-)  Thanks for your help
[23:55] <onetinsoldier> arbir: you will get an error, but try  dpkg -i linux-image-generic_2.6.27.10.13_i386.deb  ...pastbin the error
[23:56] <arbir> onetinsoldier: roger ...
[23:56] <white-sheep> raylu -- I installed the laptop recently.  Is there a way to sync all my preferred apps and settings on the laptop from the computer?
[23:56] <lordapex2> I've just installed 4gigs of ram but 'free -m' only shows 3292,  Is there something else that needs to be configured to use the rest of my RAM?
[23:56] <Phaedrus2> Ltl,  this maybe the solution Im working on it
[23:56] <arktvrvs> lordapex2:  you wont get the full 4gigs
[23:56] <raylu> white-sheep: are both running linux?
[23:56] <arktvrvs> as its reserved for PCI addresses and such
[23:56] <white-sheep> raylu -- To be more specific -- Sync-ing both ~/ together.
[23:57] <arktvrvs> unless youve a 64bit machine i think
[23:57] <lordapex2> arktvrvs: 10-4
[23:57] <white-sheep> raylu -- Yes, same arch version -- amd64.
[23:57] <onetinsoldier> lordapex2: i think that's due to the linux kernel reserving some LOWMEM area
[23:57] <Ltl> RickZilla: put the bin in /home/user  chmod 755 googleearth.bin then just ./googleearth.bin ; may require sudo, worked for me.
[23:57] <raylu> white-sheep: you have a few options. sshfs, nfs, rsync...
[23:57] <Phaedrus2> white-sheep, what do you mean by preffered apps sorry just curious
[23:57] <tsrk> aplay -l says there's no soundcards found, however "beep" causes it to output a tone just fine.  how can I make it recognize my sound card?
[23:57] <raylu> white-sheep: will both always have network connectivity?
[23:58] <arbir> onetinsoldier: it worked.. no error
[23:58] <lordapex2> arktvrvs: so is that the limit or can you use the high mem kernel to allow for more the 4gb?
[23:58] <onetinsoldier> arbir: omg! cool... ok. now wait a moment, i'm thinking
[23:58] <Ltl> lordapex2: are you running 32 bit, only x86_64 will see 4gb iirc
[23:58] <arbir> onetinsoldier: http://paste.ubuntu.com/88130/
[23:58] <Neff> has anyone here installed ubuntu on a HP notebook?
[23:58] <arbir> onetinsoldier: tell me if something catches ur eye!
[23:59] <lordapex2> Ltl: yeah 32bit but i was under the impression you could load a 32bit with more then 4gigs if you use a different kernel?
[23:59] <white-sheep> Phaedrus2 -- If I installed few said apps, then sync -- Would it appear on the laptop over there?  Will Aptitude over there even recognize it too?
[23:59] <white-sheep> raylu -- Yes for now -- Local network.
[23:59] <Ltl> tsrk: asoundconf list ; set default card ; asoundconf -help
[23:59] <Weems> I cannot play audio when I have my usb headset plugged in, is there a way that I can use skype and listen to music?
[23:59] <raylu> white-sheep: no. apps aren't in ~
[23:59] <eseven73> white-sheep: for cloning aptitude check out aptoncd
[23:59] <eseven73> !aptoncd
[23:59] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok... do you really want those older kernel versions around?