| vorian | w00t JontheEchidna :) | 00:48 |
|---|---|---|
| JontheEchidna | why is it so hard to press the send button? | 00:55 |
| vorian | just do it! | 00:55 |
| JontheEchidna | *click* | 00:55 |
| vorian | yay! | 00:56 |
| * vorian responds | 00:56 | |
| JontheEchidna | meh, awaits moderator approval | 00:56 |
| vorian | JontheEchidna: na, it went through | 00:57 |
| vorian | ahhhh, because you cc'd me :P | 00:57 |
| JontheEchidna | yea | 00:58 |
| JontheEchidna | bbl, phone | 00:58 |
| * Nightrose replied | 01:17 | |
| Nightrose | go go go JontheEchidna | 01:17 |
| NCommander | Oooh | 01:21 |
| * NCommander responds | 01:21 | |
| JontheEchidna | Thanks guys | 01:29 |
| DaSkreech | Hmm something is wrong | 01:36 |
| DaSkreech | Dolphin does not do previews any more | 01:36 |
| claydoh | dunno if I like kvirc yet :( | 01:57 |
| JontheEchidna | plasma dudes rock, they fixed a crash I reported only a few hours ago | 01:58 |
| DaSkreech | JontheEchidna: They are crazy good and crazy fast | 02:00 |
| DaSkreech | My friend did a svn up on trunk and came to me to complain that it was crashing when he did this thing | 02:00 |
| DaSkreech | I was talking to aseigo at the time and mentioned it in 4 minutes the svn bot announced a revision change | 02:01 |
| DaSkreech | So I told him it was fixed and he said no he JUST did an update I proclaimed again it was fixed so he updated and boom | 02:01 |
| DaSkreech | he hates me | 02:02 |
| * claydoh does not like kvirc even with themes :( | 02:05 | |
| JontheEchidna | hah | 02:05 |
| vorian | meh, whois is not default in kubuntu eh? | 02:07 |
| JontheEchidna | ha, here's a real doozy of a (corner case) crash | 02:26 |
| === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh | ||
| ScottK | DaSkreech: I think Wine in Main is a really bad idea, but that | 02:59 |
| ScottK | 's just me. | 02:59 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: I'll have a reply for you shortly. | 03:00 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: Thanks | 03:00 |
| JontheEchidna | They're gonna try to put wine in main O.o | 03:00 |
| ScottK | Wait 'til you read it. | 03:00 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 03:00 |
| JontheEchidna | eheh | 03:00 |
| vorian | ScottK: I agree... i don't understand that move at all. | 03:02 |
| * ScottK notes that NCommander has fallen behind on testing. More amd64 alternate please. | 03:03 | |
| JontheEchidna | Sure, wine by default would make some windows apps work out of the box. I love me some wine. But "human beings" are the type that try to execute windows executables in spam emails | 03:03 |
| ScottK | Lack of Windows executables working by default is a feature, not a bug IMO. | 03:04 |
| nixternal | hahaha, nice one ScottK! | 03:05 |
| nixternal | boo | 03:05 |
| JontheEchidna | nixternal: so, how to I post a reply to anybody's email without either: (a) sending the reply only to you, or (b) making another top-level post? | 03:07 |
| nixternal | hrmm, did I make a booboo? | 03:07 |
| JontheEchidna | I don't know | 03:07 |
| nixternal | hrmm, it seems my email didn't go through | 03:08 |
| * JontheEchidna is not 1337 with mailing lists | 03:08 | |
| NCommander | ScottK, :-P! | 03:08 |
| nixternal | shit, I don't have my mailing list stuff on this laptop | 03:08 |
| nixternal | grrr | 03:08 |
| * nixternal fires up the other laptop | 03:09 | |
| vorian | nixternal: dude, i feel bad for poor JontheEchidna | 03:09 |
| nixternal | why is that? | 03:09 |
| vorian | 20 questions | 03:10 |
| vorian | :) | 03:10 |
| nixternal | did my email already go through? | 03:10 |
| vorian | well, he'll do just fine with them | 03:10 |
| vorian | i got it | 03:10 |
| nixternal | I wonder who approved it | 03:10 |
| vorian | did you reply to all? | 03:10 |
| nixternal | ya | 03:11 |
| vorian | that's how i got it then | 03:11 |
| nixternal | forgot to clean out my CC list | 03:11 |
| vorian | :o | 03:11 |
| vorian | EVIL! | 03:11 |
| vorian | actually, like i said in my response, JE should be applying for core-dev imo | 03:11 |
| nixternal | there we go...now I am back to list admining crap again | 03:15 |
| vorian | :( | 03:15 |
| * nixternal makes sure to ban all "vorian" emails from this point on | 03:19 | |
| vorian | wha'd i do? | 03:19 |
| nixternal | don't worry about that one :) | 03:19 |
| vorian | other than break the chain by being the only subscriber | 03:20 |
| vorian | :P | 03:20 |
| nixternal | wth are these stup popups on LP in Firefox: "G46 the word binary was found!" | 03:26 |
| vorian | hmm, linky? | 03:27 |
| vorian | or are they all over? | 03:27 |
| nixternal | they happen with any link almost for me | 03:27 |
| vorian | i don't get any | 03:27 |
| nixternal | interesting | 03:28 |
| vorian | intrepid or jaunty? | 03:28 |
| vorian | or does it matter? | 03:28 |
| vorian | prolly not | 03:28 |
| vorian | am i crazy, or does anyone else see the problem with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/88249/ | 03:36 |
| DaSkreech | Anyone has something specific to say on the alpha 2 notes? | 03:39 |
| ScottK | vorian: The only problem with the suggestion he should be core-dev now is that will cause a month of navel gazing by MC is the past is any guide. | 03:43 |
| ScottK | DaSkreech: What have you got so far? | 03:43 |
| vorian | haha | 03:43 |
| DaSkreech | ScottK: Bunch of trash :) | 03:43 |
| DaSkreech | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/JauntyJackalope/Alpha2/Kubuntu | 03:43 |
| * ScottK looks | 03:44 | |
| claydoh | "the popular hunt a Icon game" lmao! | 03:45 |
| * JontheEchidna is having trouble thinking of the second thing that the MC needs to improve on | 03:46 | |
| * ScottK hacks on it a bit. | 03:46 | |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Not approving idiots who don't deserve it? | 03:46 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: I'm not really all that familiar with a lot of the council's decisions | 03:47 |
| ScottK | Right, well that one would have been a bit of a Catch 22 in any case. | 03:47 |
| JontheEchidna | maybe they need to make themselves more vocal? I haven't seen Kubuntu doods getting mentioned as motus in newsletters when they were given mastery over the universe | 03:48 |
| JontheEchidna | the ubuntu weekly newsletters | 03:48 |
| * DaSkreech stops hacking on it then | 03:49 | |
| JontheEchidna | but maybe that's not the MC's fault | 03:49 |
| vorian | ScottK: don't talk about me that way! you should try and remember i'm in this channel :P | 03:49 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Maybe you don't know WTF they do is a problem? | 03:50 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah... | 03:50 |
| vorian | JontheEchidna: maybe you could suggest they don't lose track of their votes :) | 03:51 |
| DaSkreech | ScottK: Missed anything obvious? ( I know I obviously did) | 04:00 |
| ScottK | DaSkreech: Have a look now. I edited it a bit. | 04:01 |
| DaSkreech | ScottK: Also remember this is the second alpha relaease but techinically the first releasenotes/changelog so it needs to be complete :) | 04:01 |
| ScottK | DaSkreech: Agreed. I took the bit about NM 0.7 out. That was in Intrepid. | 04:01 |
| DaSkreech | ScottK: It's all Ibex I'm editing the Ibex release notes :-P | 04:02 |
| * ScottK looks at JontheEchidna to pimp up the KDE 4.2 goodness some more. | 04:02 | |
| * JontheEchidna brings out his cane | 04:02 | |
| ScottK | DaSkreech: Sure, no trouble. | 04:02 |
| DaSkreech | ScottK: Let me do a proper cleanup on it before I show again. What are the known issues with this release. Kmail, Kontact and konversation don't exist on the CD Amarok doesn't exist at all Anythingelse ? | 04:03 |
| DaSkreech | MSN broken? Bluetooth doesn't work? Installing firefox pulls in all of Gnome ? | 04:03 |
| ScottK | DaSkreech: I added a section on known issues but I didn't make it a main section like I should have | 04:03 |
| ScottK | MSN broken and bluetooth I forgot. | 04:03 |
| ScottK | Firefox is supposedly fixed. | 04:04 |
| DaSkreech | ScottK: I saw. it broke that's kinda why I asked. If I'm going to fix it might as well do it right | 04:04 |
| ScottK | Sure thing. | 04:04 |
| DaSkreech | Can someone with a MSN account try MSn on BEta 2 ? | 04:04 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Did the libmsn thing get sorted for Jaunty yet? | 04:04 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: they want a quick security review first | 04:05 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: OK. | 04:05 |
| ScottK | DaSkreech: Then still known to be broken. | 04:05 |
| DaSkreech | JontheEchidna: That's a no ? | 04:05 |
| DaSkreech | ok | 04:05 |
| DaSkreech | Bluetooth? | 04:05 |
| DaSkreech | !info amarok jaunty | 04:05 |
| ubottu | amarok (source: amarok): versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.10-0ubuntu3 (jaunty), package size 2396 kB, installed size 7040 kB | 04:05 |
| DaSkreech | Righto | 04:06 |
| JontheEchidna | bluetooth and msn for kopete aren't in jaunty | 04:06 |
| ScottK | DaSkreech: Feel free to make my problem descriptions more elegant. | 04:07 |
| DaSkreech | Or at least more upbeat :) | 04:08 |
| ScottK | Anyone that can test amd64 alternate? | 04:12 |
| ScottK | Looks like that's the major problem. | 04:13 |
| ScottK | bah on upbeat. | 04:13 |
| ScottK | If a little negativity is going to stop someone from running this, they shouldn't run it. | 04:14 |
| DaSkreech | ScottK: Naw I'm just in an upbeat mood | 04:14 |
| DaSkreech | despite Dolphin not having a space left display option or working previews | 04:15 |
| JontheEchidna | DaSkreech: space left display is configurable, thankfully | 04:15 |
| * JontheEchidna never zooms dolphin | 04:16 | |
| DaSkreech | JontheEchidna: How do I get it? | 04:16 |
| JontheEchidna | General section of the dolphin settings | 04:16 |
| JontheEchidna | select "Show space information" | 04:16 |
| JontheEchidna | just don't tick both boxes at the same time or you'll get nothing | 04:17 |
| DaSkreech | I just went there... | 04:17 |
| DaSkreech | JontheEchidna: Whoops too late checked both. it works. beta 2 rocks | 04:17 |
| nixternal | what are you running beta2 on? | 04:18 |
| nixternal | are there packages hidden somewhere? | 04:18 |
| * JontheEchidna points nixternal to http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2 | 04:18 | |
| ScottK | nixternal: Hidden in the Jaunty repos | 04:18 |
| DaSkreech | Yes we put them somewhere no one reads | 04:18 |
| DaSkreech | The Kubuntu website and channel topic | 04:18 |
| nixternal | I know it has been released...didn't know if we had any intrepid packages | 04:18 |
| nixternal | ScottK: I can test that alternate amd64 iso if you need it | 04:19 |
| JontheEchidna | that's the "we have released packages" announcement | 04:19 |
| ScottK | nixternal: We do. | 04:19 |
| nixternal | better not break though, and it needs to support encryption | 04:19 |
| * nixternal grabs the ISO | 04:19 | |
| JontheEchidna | nixternal: btw, replied to your message. I hope I didn't top post or anything | 04:19 |
| ScottK | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all | 04:19 |
| * JontheEchidna will be out for the night soon | 04:20 | |
| DaSkreech | nixternal!!! | 04:21 |
| DaSkreech | Think up a rad pic for powerdevil then mail it to me | 04:21 |
| ScottK-desktop | Well that's a new one. | 04:30 |
| ScottK-desktop | I said yes when offered a reboot inside a chroot and it rebooted the entire machine. | 04:30 |
| * ScottK-desktop didn't think it would do that. | 04:30 | |
| DaSkreech | ScottK-desktop: Wouldn't it send the command to the processor it's running on? | 04:31 |
| ScottK-desktop | I didn't think it would get out of the chroot. | 04:32 |
| ScottK-desktop | Obviously I was mistaken. | 04:32 |
| ScottK | Right, well back again. | 04:33 |
| ScottK | The good news is I did manage to upgrade the chroot from Intrepid to Jaunty OK | 04:34 |
| nixternal | JontheEchidna: that is exactly how you reply to an email...good job and I love the answers!!! | 04:45 |
| DaSkreech | Anyone remember anything significanfrom Alpha 1 | 04:49 |
| * nixternal starts amd64 testing | 05:08 | |
| nixternal | and it didn't start out pretty either | 05:08 |
| nixternal | I/O error messages like crazy | 05:08 |
| * nixternal tries to find out what they were/are | 05:08 | |
| nixternal | I am guessing every ISO has this error: | 05:09 |
| nixternal | "Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical lock 176351" | 05:09 |
| nixternal | or something similar since they are Kernel ERR messages and not Kernal WARNING messages | 05:09 |
| ScottK | Well we've got some good test results without anyone else mentioning it. | 05:15 |
| nixternal | they may not be checking tty4 for messages during the install either | 05:16 |
| nixternal | I saw these on the alternate before it came up asking me to detect my keyboard, or whatever the first box is...can't remembe rnow | 05:16 |
| nixternal | it flashed on the screen very quickly | 05:16 |
| nixternal | 5 minutes have passed on the "Select and install software" screen and it is still at 6% and telling me to "Please wait..." | 05:23 |
| nixternal | the system is obviously doing something as I can hear the cdrom spin up and down as well as see hard drive activity via LED | 05:23 |
| ScottK | Lovely. | 05:24 |
| ScottK | Well the two people who did most of the previous testing are currently absent. | 05:25 |
| nixternal | after that spot, 5 minute little hang up, it is installing | 05:25 |
| ScottK | Ah. Progress. | 05:25 |
| nixternal | I think this is the farthest I have been with a Kubuntu Jaunty alternate install to date :) | 05:25 |
| nixternal | so that is even more progress | 05:26 |
| ScottK | Excellent. | 05:28 |
| nixternal | Installation Completetion: errrr | 05:29 |
| nixternal | [!!] Configuring grub | 05:29 |
| * nixternal wonders if this is due to a logical /boot partition | 05:29 | |
| * ScottK is thinking the launchpad-integration depends should be switched to kde5libs from kdelibs4c2a since it's only relevant to Konqueror | 05:29 | |
| nixternal | heh, "running remove_broken_cdrom" | 05:30 |
| nixternal | I am seeing some different things here, not issues it seems, but things I have never witnessed before | 05:30 |
| ScottK | Does it take it back to Best Buy too? | 05:30 |
| nixternal | install completed | 05:31 |
| ScottK | Excellent. | 05:31 |
| nixternal | lets see if I hosed grub yet again | 05:31 |
| nixternal | grub isn't hosed, just didn't install the Kubuntu grub in the correct location...easy fix though (I hope) from Ubuntu | 05:32 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Which partitioning option did you take? | 05:34 |
| nixternal | manual w/ encryption | 05:34 |
| ScottK | There are known issues with manual on Ubiquty, but not D-I. | 05:34 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Please file a bug and mark it in the ISO tracker. | 05:35 |
| nixternal | the bug might be my fault though, which more than likely, in this case, I am the bug | 05:35 |
| ScottK | nixternal: At this point I'd rather get it written down and move on. AFAIK you are the only one to try that test case. | 05:38 |
| ScottK | nixternal: I'm off to bed. Just keep checking things off in the ISO tracker ... | 05:47 |
| nixternal | will do...g'nite | 05:48 |
| ScottK | Thanks. Good night. | 05:48 |
| DaSkreech | ScottK: does koffice conflict with Beta 2 on jaunty? | 06:02 |
| ScottK | DaSkreech: I went to bed 15 minutes ago. | 06:03 |
| ScottK | DaSkreech: No idea. | 06:03 |
| DaSkreech | Ok | 06:03 |
| DaSkreech | I'll leave it as resolved then | 06:03 |
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| * jussi01 waves | 08:54 | |
| === nicola is now known as briseight | ||
| knusperfrosch | anyone with a laptop who can add a second battery? guidance doesn't seem to recognize that | 09:45 |
| ScottK | davmor2: Did you file/find a bug about the manual partition problem you had yesterday? | 11:41 |
| davmor2 | ScottK: apparently it is the continuation of a bug that already exists so I didn't need too. evand is well aware of it and trying to find a fix. | 11:43 |
| ScottK | OK. If you have the bug number it might be useful to shove it on the tracker. | 11:43 |
| ScottK | Arby or nixternal: Any chance of you guys knocking out the last two alternate tests for i386 or amd64? | 11:44 |
| Arby | ScottK: sorry not really, I'm at work now and got plans for this evening. Is that all that's blocking alpha2? | 11:46 |
| ScottK | Arby: I don't think Kubuntu is blocking, but I was hoping to get to 100% to make sure that's not the case. | 11:46 |
| ScottK | Arby: Thanks for all you've done. I'll see if I can find someone else.... | 11:47 |
| davmor2 | ScottK: It's not the case I think server was yesterday but slangasek was happy with the general coverage | 11:49 |
| ScottK | Server is looking very good now. Xubuntu is still lacking, but I don't think that would block. | 11:50 |
| ScottK | So I'm not sure why we're waiting. | 11:50 |
| ScottK | Maybe for evand to fix Ubiquity. | 11:50 |
| davmor2 | ScottK: Xubuntu desktop is screwed | 11:51 |
| ScottK | Ah. So probably not waiting on that. | 11:52 |
| ScottK | Do you know what happened? | 11:52 |
| davmor2 | ScottK: It could just be that the server tests weren't done before slangasek went to bed in which case the delay would be him. | 11:53 |
| ScottK | Yeah. Could be. | 11:53 |
| JontheEchidna | ugh, I can't find a tarball for kdenlive anywhere... | 12:50 |
| JontheEchidna | wow, don't look at kdenlive's website, but find the tarball at kde-apps.org :P | 12:57 |
| smarter | JontheEchidna: why are you fiddling with kdenlive? :] | 13:00 |
| JontheEchidna | :] | 13:01 |
| JontheEchidna | Scott asked me nicely to do so | 13:02 |
| smarter | someone is already working on packaging the new version afaik | 13:03 |
| JontheEchidna | according to Scott they disappeared | 13:04 |
| JontheEchidna | s/they/he | 13:04 |
| smarter | hmm, I think I know one of the guys, he's on the french u-devel channel | 13:04 |
| * smarter pings hime | 13:04 | |
| * JontheEchidna notices that as the KDE prerelease releases get better, less comments are made on the Dot | 13:06 | |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: It's packaged in Debian Multimedia. | 13:16 |
| ScottK | There's an open bug on LP about the upgrade too. | 13:17 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: http://debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/k/kdenlive/kdenlive.php | 13:17 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: The 'fun' part here is that we have mlt and mlt++ from Debian Main, not Debian Multimedia, so there are issues ... | 13:18 |
| JontheEchidna | So then we would need to merge our mlt(++) packages from debian multimedia? | 13:39 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Dunno. | 13:41 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm | 13:41 |
| JontheEchidna | current version in jaunty is higher than in multimedia, so I guess not | 13:41 |
| JontheEchidna | fun :D | 13:41 |
| ScottK | I got as far as getting mlt++ present in sufficient version, discovered it didn't work out of the box and this other guy said he was working on it. | 13:41 |
| ScottK | So I quit at that point. | 13:42 |
| * JontheEchidna nods | 13:42 | |
| ScottK | But I'd suggest that diffing the Debian Main and Debian Multimedia mlt and mlt++ might be useful for at least getting it to build. | 13:42 |
| * JontheEchidna wonders when it is supposed to fail | 14:23 | |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: builds just fine here | 14:24 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Kewl. Then it's just a simple merge. | 14:24 |
| ScottK | When I tried it it couldn't find mlt during the build. | 14:25 |
| JontheEchidna | I just need to clean up the merge documentation in the changelog a bit, then I can send you the package + diffs | 14:26 |
| didrocks | hi | 14:31 |
| didrocks | ScottK, JontheEchidna : I have almost packaged the new version of kdenlive | 14:31 |
| didrocks | (as told in the ML) | 14:32 |
| didrocks | I am just facing a strange issue in the package -data file list | 14:32 |
| ScottK | didrocks: Sorry. I thought you'd quit. | 14:32 |
| didrocks | and Lutin who have already packaged it should have a look at it | 14:32 |
| ScottK | Lutin isn't very active anymore. | 14:32 |
| didrocks | ScottK: no no, I am actually waiting for Lutin :) | 14:32 |
| ScottK | Likely to be a long wait. | 14:33 |
| didrocks | ScottK: if you whish, I can show you what does not work | 14:33 |
| didrocks | I think I have the .dsc on my server | 14:33 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Would you be willing to review didrocks' merge? | 14:33 |
| JontheEchidna | Sure | 14:33 |
| didrocks | JontheEchidna: I have two packages one with binaries, another one with -data | 14:34 |
| didrocks | I embedeed the /usr/share/doc on the binary package and do not understand why | 14:34 |
| didrocks | (with dh_installs) | 14:34 |
| didrocks | one minute, I will give you a link to the .dsc file | 14:34 |
| didrocks | JontheEchidna: http://www.didrocks.fr/temp/kdenlive_0.7-0.0ubuntu1.dsc | 14:36 |
| JontheEchidna | I'll also need the diff.gz :) | 14:36 |
| didrocks | you can dget it, it should work :) | 14:37 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, same location? | 14:37 |
| didrocks | yeah | 14:37 |
| JontheEchidna | cool | 14:37 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: When you're happy, let me know and I'll review your review. | 14:38 |
| JontheEchidna | Ok, I have a few comments | 14:43 |
| didrocks | JontheEchidna: yes ? | 14:43 |
| JontheEchidna | All of our KDE4 packages generally use the kde4.mk included in the Ubuntu cdbs package so that they can be translated | 14:43 |
| didrocks | this package uses debhelper (to stick, as previous version, with marillat repos) | 14:44 |
| JontheEchidna | So while it does make the diff between us and debian larger, we always just make debian/rules include include /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/kde4.mk instead of using a built-in cdbs solution or debhelper | 14:44 |
| didrocks | consequently, this impact all commands in debian/rules, right? | 14:45 |
| didrocks | (if we get ridden of debhelper) | 14:46 |
| JontheEchidna | yes, using kde4.mk means that just about everything in there is unneeded | 14:46 |
| didrocks | can I take another KDE package as a good example? | 14:46 |
| * JontheEchidna looks for a good example | 14:47 | |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Changing the build system from Debian though is on the No-No list. | 14:47 |
| smarter | someone should probably ask marillat to use kde4.mk | 14:48 |
| ScottK | It's a Universe pacakge, so the odds of added translations is low anyway. | 14:48 |
| smarter | since even Debian use it: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-kde/branches/kde4/packages/kdelibs/debian/rules?op=file&rev=0&sc=0 | 14:48 |
| ScottK | Agreed. | 14:48 |
| didrocks | that was what I was thinking and we normally stick with debian packaging system and patch... | 14:48 |
| JontheEchidna | our kde4.mk is customized, debian doesn't really want it | 14:48 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Yes, but they have their own. | 14:48 |
| JontheEchidna | ok, then stick with debhelper | 14:48 |
| didrocks | ok | 14:49 |
| * JontheEchidna wonders why debian is dropping the -data package | 14:51 | |
| didrocks | JontheEchidna: the drop seems to be from a long time ago, so, I merged this changed to keep it | 14:52 |
| * ScottK suggests a careful look at the licensing of the data. | 14:52 | |
| didrocks | ScottK: there were some licence changes/enhancement from marillat's licence files. I kept them | 14:53 |
| didrocks | (in the merge) | 14:53 |
| ScottK | didrocks: My thought is that the data files may be non-free would be a reason. | 14:54 |
| JontheEchidna | wouldn't they have pruned the non-free data files from the tarball and dsfg'd it? | 14:54 |
| didrocks | ScottK: let me have a look at their website | 14:55 |
| ScottK | Yes, in theory, but this is from Debian Multimedia and not Debian Main, so you have to be extra careful. | 14:55 |
| ScottK | The only reason Debian Multimedia exists is for stuff to legally scary for Main. | 14:55 |
| JontheEchidna | too bad the changelog is pretty sparse on debian's part | 14:56 |
| didrocks | hum, the official website does not seem to be very talkative | 14:56 |
| * JontheEchidna testbuilds | 14:59 | |
| didrocks | oki | 14:59 |
| JontheEchidna | (my machine is a bit slow, 40% done) | 15:02 |
| didrocks | JontheEchidna: the build is long, even with a fast one :) | 15:03 |
| JontheEchidna | not compared to a lot of KDE :P | 15:03 |
| didrocks | I imagine ^^ | 15:04 |
| JontheEchidna | Amarok is a bit of a beast to compile as well | 15:06 |
| JontheEchidna | they have qtscript bindings for most of Qt included in the source | 15:06 |
| Tm_T | JontheEchidna: only because of qtscript, rest of Amarok is quite lean | 15:06 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah | 15:07 |
| * didrocks uses Qt only for kile ;) | 15:07 | |
| JontheEchidna | hehe | 15:07 |
| didrocks | ooopsss, I am on #kubuntu-devel :p | 15:07 |
| Tm_T | didrocks: we all are GNOME-zealots to bring KDE down for good | 15:07 |
| * Tm_T hides | 15:07 | |
| didrocks | Tm_T: :) | 15:07 |
| JontheEchidna | just about done | 15:14 |
| didrocks | waow, longer than in my laptop :) | 15:15 |
| JontheEchidna | done | 15:15 |
| JontheEchidna | there shouldn't be any issues with the -data, they're pngs and text files | 15:18 |
| JontheEchidna | that happen to be without copyrighs | 15:18 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm | 15:18 |
| didrocks | I had a deeper look at the kdenlive website, nothing found useful :/ | 15:19 |
| JontheEchidna | I couldn't even find a tarball on the kdenlive website | 15:19 |
| JontheEchidna | I had to go to kde-apps, then follow the link to the main page of sourceforce | 15:19 |
| JontheEchidna | *forge | 15:19 |
| JontheEchidna | search for kdenlive, and get the tarball from there | 15:19 |
| didrocks | yes, their website is really empty :/ | 15:19 |
| didrocks | and going to SF to find the tarball is quite strange | 15:20 |
| JontheEchidna | maybe data text files don't need copyrights | 15:20 |
| ScottK-laptop | JontheEchidna: You know that's not true ... | 15:21 |
| ScottK-laptop | JontheEchidna: grep -ir copyright * on the relevant dir and see what you get. | 15:21 |
| ScottK-laptop | Sometimes images have embedded text. | 15:21 |
| didrocks | ScottK-laptop: so, I will have in mind to double-check marillat's packages | 15:22 |
| JontheEchidna | grep -iR "copyright" kdenlive-0.7/data/ shows nada | 15:22 |
| ScottK-laptop | Hmmmm. | 15:22 |
| ScottK-laptop | There doesn't actually seem to be much in that dir, now that I've looked. | 15:24 |
| ScottK-laptop | I have the tarball from Debian Multimedia. | 15:24 |
| JontheEchidna | us too | 15:24 |
| didrocks | ScottK-laptop: I used this one. | 15:25 |
| ScottK-laptop | OK. It doesn't seem to me that there is enough there to justify a separate data package. | 15:25 |
| ScottK-laptop | It's ~60K | 15:26 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, that's most likely why they dropped the -data package | 15:27 |
| didrocks | so, I can merge them back this evening (I do not have access to my laptop now) | 15:27 |
| JontheEchidna | good merge all-in-all | 15:30 |
| didrocks | JontheEchidna: I am going to home right now. I think I can give you something in a couple of hours. Is it ok? | 15:30 |
| didrocks | if you have any other suggestion, do not hesitate, I will backlog ;) | 15:31 |
| JontheEchidna | Yeah, that's perfectly ok | 15:31 |
| * JontheEchidna does ahve to go for a bit too | 15:31 | |
| === cmvo_ is now known as cmvo | ||
| ScottK-laptop | apachelogger: Is there some KDE provided sound we could use for quassel notifications? The phonon support works if you build the Git snapshot with phonon-dev. | 16:17 |
| ScottK-laptop | This is on Intrepid. | 16:17 |
| jussi01 | ScottK: could we not just use the kopete received sound? /usr/share/sounds/Kopete_Received.ogg | 16:31 |
| jussi01 | or is that too alike? | 16:32 |
| ScottK-laptop | jussi01: We could, but then quassel would have to depend on Kopete. | 16:32 |
| jussi01 | ScottK-laptop: hrm, yeah | 16:33 |
| ScottK-laptop | jussi01: Do that again. I'm trying KDE-Sys-App-Message.ogg | 16:34 |
| Nightrose | also it would be nice to distinguish the two sounds | 16:34 |
| jussi01 | ScottK-laptop: how about /usr/share/sounds/KDE-Im-Irc-Event.ogg ? | 16:34 |
| ScottK-laptop | Hmm. No sound the time. | 16:34 |
| jussi01 | ScottK-laptop: hrm, wondeer why | 16:35 |
| Nightrose | maybe because of the : at the end of his nick? how about ScottK-desktop | 16:36 |
| Nightrose | or ScottK-laptop | 16:36 |
| ScottK-laptop | Nope. | 16:36 |
| Nightrose | ok quassel has problems with that from time to time | 16:36 |
| ScottK-laptop | OK | 16:37 |
| ScottK-laptop | Please try again. | 16:37 |
| * jussi01 waves to Sput | 16:37 | |
| jussi01 | heya ScottK-laptop | 16:37 |
| * Sput waves back | 16:37 | |
| ScottK-laptop | Nope. | 16:38 |
| * ScottK-laptop quits and tries again. | 16:38 | |
| ScottK-laptop | Hit me again. | 16:39 |
| jussi01 | ScottK-laptop: | 16:39 |
| ScottK-laptop | Just got an idea. Once more please. | 16:40 |
| jussi01 | ScottK-laptop: like any other irc client,to get identified before logging into chans put your nick password as server password | 16:40 |
| ScottK-laptop | Worked that time. | 16:41 |
| ScottK-laptop | The difference was quassel wasn't the window on top. | 16:42 |
| ScottK-laptop | Which makes sense. | 16:42 |
| jussi01 | ScottK-laptop: ahh, yes, makes sense | 16:42 |
| ScottK-laptop | I also got a screenshot of the double notification problem I was seeing (dbus and qt both). | 16:42 |
| jussi01 | ScottK-laptop: thats just a config option, you can turn them off in the settings | 16:43 |
| ScottK-laptop | jussi01: The dbus one is, but the QT one isn't. | 16:43 |
| ScottK-laptop | So if you want dbus, you get both .... | 16:44 |
| ScottK-laptop | Sput: ^^ | 16:44 |
| jussi01 | ScottK-laptop: oh, hrm. | 16:44 |
| Sput | you can disable the systray notification | 16:44 |
| Sput | if you can't, something's broken :) | 16:44 |
| Sput | "[ ] Show Bubble" | 16:44 |
| * ScottK-laptop looks | 16:45 | |
| ScottK-laptop | Yep. | 16:46 |
| ScottK-laptop | Sput: It's kind of hard to relate "Bubble" and "DBUS Notifications". Shouldn't they be more closely related in the prefs. | 16:46 |
| ScottK-laptop | And maybe even one should toggle off if the other is enabled? | 16:47 |
| Sput | hmm, terminology could be better probably | 16:47 |
| Sput | as for the other, I'm not sure - maybe someone wants to have both (and use dbus for playing a sound or whatever) | 16:48 |
| Sput | I would love a better name for Desktop Notification | 16:48 |
| Sput | but Galago doesn't help people either I guess | 16:48 |
| ScottK-laptop | Hrrm. | 16:49 |
| ScottK-laptop | seele: ^^^ Thoughts? | 16:49 |
| Sput | I think in the KDE version we will only have knotify anyway, and disable all other backends | 16:50 |
| ScottK-laptop | OK. Is there a rough timeline on a KDE version? | 16:51 |
| Sput | depends on how fast I manage to get myself into that, I don't have prior experience. I did, however, prepare the various util classes to be ready to be replaced by KDE's classes later on (icons, shortcuts and such) | 16:52 |
| Sput | I plan to play around during xmas break and see how far I can get | 16:52 |
| ScottK-laptop | OK. | 16:52 |
| jussi01 | I guess it depends on what needs doing also, no? | 16:53 |
| Sput | yes | 16:53 |
| Sput | our priorities have changed a bit since yesterdays, I guess :) | 16:53 |
| ScottK-laptop | Sput: Is it possible to provide a standard additonal buffer view in addition to All via config file? | 16:53 |
| ScottK-laptop | apachelogger: Would you please make sure seele gets the git snapshot package to test. | 16:54 |
| Sput | ScottK-desktop: I thikn not yet, but we definitely plan to provide a much more reasonable default layout out of the box in the future | 16:54 |
| Sput | in particular, don't show All by default at all, and use only custom views | 16:55 |
| ScottK-laptop | Sput: Well that and having a default channel included (which I guess is going to get more doable shortly) are I think both must haves for us. | 16:55 |
| Sput | I guess so | 16:55 |
| ScottK-laptop | Not that I speak officially for the project, of course. | 16:55 |
| Sput | sure | 16:55 |
| Sput | I think for stuff like this, we can accommodate your needs quite well... worst case providing and maintaining a kubuntu patch | 16:57 |
| Sput | I mean, a patch for "kubuntu mode" | 16:57 |
| ScottK-laptop | Right. | 16:57 |
| ScottK-laptop | We'd definitely use the monolithic client for default (with an option to switch). | 16:57 |
| Sput | of course | 16:57 |
| Sput | note that even the monolithic client can (not by default, but by providing -p) listen to other, remote clients | 16:58 |
| Sput | and you can of course use it to connect to remote cores too :) | 16:58 |
| ScottK-laptop | How about right-clicking on a nick in the channel gives the same options as in the nick list. | 16:58 |
| Sput | so that would not even be a limitation... | 16:58 |
| ScottK-laptop | That's currently driving me nuts. | 16:58 |
| Sput | that's planned, not yet fully done (but most pieces in place already) | 16:59 |
| ScottK-laptop | OK. | 16:59 |
| Sput | I have no clue how to do nick recognition efficiently enough right now, that's the one blocker... providing that for the sender column will be easy | 16:59 |
| ScottK-laptop | I think we'd want to make using a remote core less accessible than it is now. | 16:59 |
| Sput | recognizing nicks in normal text will be much harder | 17:00 |
| ScottK-laptop | It's almost like the internal core is less wanted. | 17:00 |
| ScottK-laptop | #ubuntu-devel | 17:00 |
| ScottK-laptop | That works. | 17:00 |
| Sput | well, that's from a perspective of devs who always used remote cores :) | 17:00 |
| ScottK-laptop | Of course | 17:00 |
| ScottK-laptop | Since IRC is our first line support tool for new users, it has to be extremely obvious how to take the shortest pat to success. | 17:01 |
| Sput | I guess you have a large "Get Support" button somewhere, that starts the default IRC client and joins #kubuntu | 17:02 |
| ScottK-laptop | I don't think it's that automagic, but we do have freenode in the default IRC config and #kubuntu is the only channel. | 17:03 |
| Sput | yep, makes sense for the target group | 17:03 |
| ScottK-laptop | Currently we're considering no IRC client on the install CD, quassel, and kvirc. I haven't looked at the KDE4 kvirc yet. | 17:04 |
| * ScottK-laptop decides to go do some $WORK. | 17:06 | |
| * Sput too | 17:11 | |
| rgreening | ScottK-desktop: I'm attempting to update the kvirc with the changes you meantioned the other day... | 17:16 |
| ScottK | Great. We need to look at that one too. | 17:17 |
| rgreening | ScottK: dpkg-source: error: source package has two conflicting values - kvirc-kde4 and kvirc | 17:18 |
| rgreening | in trying to change to kde4 | 17:19 |
| rgreening | oh, does src tar need to be renamed? | 17:19 |
| ScottK | rgreening: Probably debian/control and debian/changelog, but that too. | 17:21 |
| rgreening | color me confised... though I did it correct. | 17:21 |
| rgreening | ScottK: should the changelog spec -kde4? If it does, then the src file wants to be renamed (it seems) | 17:22 |
| ScottK | rgreening: I think for now. That's what we want. | 17:22 |
| rgreening | ok, I'll try it that way. Feel free to point out fixes after I upload :) | 17:23 |
| rgreening | Riddell: I think I have the flash install patch modded enough to work. I was attempting to do a full port, but was unsuccessful. Had to use some kde3support and qt3support to make it work. | 18:13 |
| rgreening | Riddell: test building now. once completed, I'll test local and then upload to experimental (? I assume this is the best for it) | 18:15 |
| ScottK | rgreening: We're going for no KDE3 on the CD, so it'll have to get finished at some point. | 18:17 |
| rgreening | ScottK: this is part of kde4libs not kde3 | 18:18 |
| ScottK | Ah.. Cool. | 18:18 |
| rgreening | some depricated classes move to a special resting ground in kde4libs called kde3support | 18:18 |
| rgreening | to eventually be removed | 18:18 |
| rgreening | we can live with it for now... | 18:19 |
| ScottK | Makes sense. | 18:20 |
| ScottK | What was the new binary in kde-edu that put it in New? | 18:25 |
| smarter | ScottK: plasmoid-worldclock | 18:26 |
| ScottK | smarter: Thanks. | 18:27 |
| ScottK | Any ideas why the dbus pop-up is brown: http://kitterman.com/kubuntu/notify.png | 18:32 |
| smarter | that looks like the ubuntu notifiy daemon | 18:34 |
| smarter | you have some gnome stuff running I'd say | 18:34 |
| ScottK-desktop | That's quassel with dbus notifications turned on. | 18:49 |
| ScottK-desktop | (version from their git trunk) | 18:50 |
| ScottK-desktop | The non-brown one is the normal qt bubble. | 18:50 |
| JontheEchidna | I get the same brown bubbles using the libnotify plugin with pidgin | 18:52 |
| seele | ugh.. reading black text on white background sucks | 19:03 |
| seele | brb | 19:03 |
| seele | ScottK: what am i supposed to get now? | 19:04 |
| rgreening | ScottK: I just dput the kvirc updated for using -kde4. I'm sure I missed some other things.. feel free to yell them at me so I fix :) | 19:08 |
| ScottK-desktop | rgreening: To your PPA? | 19:11 |
| ScottK-desktop | JontheEchidna: Any idea if we can change that? | 19:11 |
| DaSkreech | Anyone have anything they want mentioned in the alpha 2 release notes? | 19:12 |
| ScottK | seele: apachelogger put together an updated quassel package from their git repo. I improved it slightly. So the idea would be for you to install quassel (not quassel-client/core) and give us some usablity fatal flaw analysis. | 19:16 |
| ScottK | seele: I just uploaded to my PPA for Intrepid, so it'll take a bit to build. | 19:16 |
| ScottK | https://launchpad.net/~kitterman/+archive | 19:17 |
| rgreening | ScottK: yes. my ppa | 19:18 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: By "change" you mean, "host somewhere else"? | 19:19 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: I mean not have the notifications be brown. | 19:19 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, I never figured that out. I assume the notification framework has ubuntu-specific art | 19:20 |
| JontheEchidna | ah, the internet: http://i42.tinypic.com/2cmufr8.jpg | 19:33 |
| rgreening | I'd give 1 point for originality | 19:35 |
| rgreening | dam kdelibs | 19:36 |
| rgreening | grr | 19:36 |
| rgreening | I can't get it to link in the qt3support or kde3support libraries via cmakelists.txt. | 19:37 |
| JontheEchidna | kopete uses kde3support, maybe you could look at it as an example? | 19:39 |
| JontheEchidna | (uses k3proccess) | 19:39 |
| DaSkreech | Kopete uses KDE3? | 19:40 |
| JontheEchidna | it still uses some depreciated kde3 functions for its networking code | 19:43 |
| JontheEchidna | or something like that | 19:43 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: You fixing the okular thing you wrote the ML about? | 19:45 |
| ScottK | ... when the freeze is over. | 19:46 |
| JontheEchidna | there's a triaged bug about that against k-d-s in LP | 19:46 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: Riddell wanted to, also if I understod him correctly we can drop all the kwinrules because it is implemented upstream | 19:46 |
| === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde | ||
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: thanks. I'll have a look. :) | 19:54 |
| chris062689 | Ahh that was a nice nap :D | 20:02 |
| chris062689 | I love KDE 4.2 Beta 2, really stable so far | 20:03 |
| DaSkreech | <3 | 20:05 |
| didrocks | JontheEchidna: sorry, I had my dinner to a restaurant :) You can now give it a try in one package: http://www.didrocks.fr/temp/kdenlive_0.7-0.0ubuntu1.dsc | 20:06 |
| didrocks | if it's ok, I can upload the debdiff to the attached bug | 20:07 |
| * DaSkreech nominates a wallpaper for KDE 4.3 | 20:14 | |
| DaSkreech | http://www.flickr.com/photos/rowandw/2276721446/sizes/l/ | 20:14 |
| JontheEchidna | didrocks: Oh, I just remembered something I forgot to ask earlier. Looking at the debdiff between debian and the merge, there is a kdenlive-0.7/.pc/.version file that was added in your merge. I don't know if that's supposed to be there or not, but at the least it's a change not documented in the changelog as an outstanding change | 20:15 |
| didrocks | JontheEchidna: I think this is quilt related | 20:15 |
| didrocks | I tried without it and it even not build the source package | 20:16 |
| * JontheEchidna tests | 20:17 | |
| didrocks | (it seems to be quilt version) | 20:20 |
| JontheEchidna | So it's something that quilt generates? I would assume that it would generate it during runtime | 20:27 |
| didrocks | JontheEchidna: quilt generated it when adding the patch system | 20:28 |
| JontheEchidna | I don't think I've ever seen anything that uses quilt before ever require a direct change in the diff.gz | 20:28 |
| didrocks | and it uses it when running the clean rule | 20:28 |
| didrocks | let me have a look to the debdiff with the last ubuntu version | 20:29 |
| didrocks | JontheEchidna: it was also in the latest ubuntu version | 20:31 |
| JontheEchidna | ok, maybe it's required then. I think that it should be at least documented as a difference to prevent further confusion such as this :P | 20:31 |
| didrocks | JontheEchidna: ok. I document it in the changelog | 20:32 |
| didrocks | but I would rather have further documentation on it | 20:32 |
| didrocks | but didn't find anything | 20:32 |
| didrocks | :/ | 20:32 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah... .pc/.version not exactly the most googleable term | 20:33 |
| didrocks | indeed ^^ | 20:33 |
| didrocks | do I adapt the changelog and attach the 2 debdiff to the bug? | 20:34 |
| JontheEchidna | yes, everything else looked fine. The diff between us and debian is nice and small :) | 20:35 |
| didrocks | thanksfully ^^ | 20:35 |
| rgreening | seele: If you want to look at kvirc in addition to quassel, it's our other option as a replacement IRC client. I have it in my PPPA (https://edge.launchpad.net/~roderick-greening/+archive) | 20:39 |
| ScottK | seele: ^^ Please do. | 20:45 |
| f4l3_ | hi guys | 21:35 |
| DaSkreech | hi | 21:37 |
| f4l3_ | http://www.digikam.org/about/releaseplan <-- will digikam 0.10 be in 9.04? | 21:39 |
| smarter | f4l3_: there is a high chance that yes | 21:46 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, you around? | 22:47 |
| apachelogger | yus | 22:48 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-qt4/+bug/308814 - sponsor plz | 22:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 308814 in python-qt4 "Patches for kde4bindings to build it on ARM" [High,In progress] | 22:50 |
| ScottK-palm | Time to put a release notice out on kubuntu.org. Particularly since the Ubuntu Alpha 2 announcemt didn't reference our release note. | 22:51 |
| ScottK-palm | NCommander: It'll be several hours before I can do any sponsoring, so don't feel like you have to wait. | 22:52 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: do you have to show up with such stuff at 23:50 :P | 22:53 |
| NCommander | ScottK-palm, I've been waiting for three days, whats another few hours (I need to go out anyway) | 22:53 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, yes, yes I do | 22:53 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: the kdelibs changelog is flawed | 22:53 |
| apachelogger | Dropped, unnecessaru since | 22:54 |
| NCommander | ? | 22:54 |
| NCommander | Its in bazaar, you can fix it if you want :-) | 22:54 |
| ScottK-palm | I can't change /topic very effiectively from here. Would someone else? | 22:54 |
| NCommander | or I can commit a fix | 22:54 |
| apachelogger | I want you to :P | 22:54 |
| apachelogger | ScottK-palm: you tested the pyqt change? | 22:54 |
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| ScottK-palm | NCommander or Apachelogger: kde5libs needs to depend on launchpad-integration. | 22:55 |
| apachelogger | who merged that away | 22:55 |
| NCommander | brb | 22:55 |
| ScottK-palm | Currently that gets pulled in by the kde3 lib package, but it's Konq that cares. | 22:56 |
| ScottK-palm | apachelogger: It's never been there I don't think. It needs to be shifted. | 22:56 |
| apachelogger | IIRC we added it | 22:56 |
| apachelogger | or maybe we add it to -desktop or the seed | 22:57 |
| apachelogger | the help->translate thingy depends on it as well | 22:57 |
| ScottK-palm | As long as we had KDE3 stuff in -desktop it didn't matter. | 22:57 |
| ScottK-palm | I did a test upgrade from Intrepid and it ended up removed. | 22:57 |
| ScottK-palm | NCommander: Would you stuff that in bzr too?n | 22:58 |
| ScottK-palm | apachelogger: I didn't test the latest pykde4 stuff. | 22:58 |
| apachelogger | kde4libs (4:4.1.2-0ubuntu9) intrepid; urgency=low | 22:59 |
| apachelogger | [ Roderick B. Greening ] | 22:59 |
| apachelogger | * Add dep for launchpad-integration to kdelibs5 (LP: #283834) | 22:59 |
| apachelogger | ScottK-palm: jr did merge it away | 22:59 |
| ScottK-palm | Hmmm. K. Well it got dropped. | 22:59 |
| ScottK-palm | Grumble. | 23:00 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: if you add launchpad-integration ... also add it to the KUBUNTU-DEBIAN-DIFF document | 23:00 |
| apachelogger | otherwise it will probably be dropped again | 23:00 |
| ScottK-palm | apachlogger: My approach would be just to test build and upload if it doesn't die for kde4bindings. | 23:01 |
| ScottK-palm | python-qt4 too. | 23:01 |
| ScottK-palm | I know NCommander has been very careful and used the exra time he got. | 23:02 |
| apachelogger | ScottK-palm: agreed, but I guess you will get to it earlier then, I should be going to bed soon | 23:02 |
| ScottK-palm | NCommander: If you could figure out where the hppa builds of kde4bings are going, that'd be great. | 23:03 |
| ScottK-palm | apachelogger: OK. | 23:03 |
| NCommander | ScottK-palm, LP bug :-) | 23:04 |
| ScottK-palm | Right, so talk nice and see if they can sort it.... | 23:05 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: about the removal of debian/patches/kubuntu_70_nepomuk_qreal.diff in libs... is it in progress upstream? | 23:06 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: it is likely that nepomuk returns for rc1, so we would have to digg up that patch again | 23:06 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, its not needed any more, nepomuk is still built in libs, and had no issues | 23:06 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, I had that in place for bindings | 23:06 |
| apachelogger | that is what I mean | 23:07 |
| * NCommander notes bindings with nepomuk still dies with another error | 23:07 | |
| NCommander | That didn't fix it right | 23:07 |
| apachelogger | fair enough then | 23:07 |
| ScottK-palm | IIRC you end up needing a circular build-dep for Nepomuk anyway. | 23:07 |
| ScottK-palm | Let's not have that again. | 23:08 |
| apachelogger | lolz | 23:08 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: easy on the commits :P | 23:08 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, and I did fix the nepomuk error by commenting out a constructor in bindings for varient.hpp which TBH, if your using in Python, I'd be worried | 23:08 |
| ScottK-palm | apachelogger: Can you put the Alpha 2 release announcement on kubuntu.org? | 23:09 |
| apachelogger | ScottK-palm: where is it now? | 23:09 |
| apachelogger | or should I be writing one? | 23:09 |
| chris062689 | The state of emulation SUCKS in KDE 4. | 23:10 |
| ScottK-palm | Daskreech wrote the release notes. | 23:10 |
| chris062689 | There's no good emulators out there for Linux, and their GUIs suck. | 23:10 |
| chris062689 | Segmentation Faults all over the place ;_; | 23:10 |
| ScottK-palm | Somebody kick him plz. I'm really not in the mood. | 23:10 |
| ScottK-palm | Actually, I need to run. | 23:11 |
| ScottK-palm | Catch you later. | 23:11 |
| chris062689 | (Sorry, I wanted to post that in #kubuntu, ignore that) | 23:11 |
| DaSkreech | !ot | chris062689 | 23:11 |
| ubottu | chris062689: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! | 23:11 |
| apachelogger | wth | 23:12 |
| * apachelogger pokes stdin | 23:12 | |
| apachelogger | ubottu is clearly ot itself | 23:12 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 23:12 |
| apachelogger | and not intelligent either | 23:12 |
| didrocks | :) | 23:12 |
| apachelogger | DaSkreech: so, where can I find the release notes? | 23:13 |
| DaSkreech | apachelogger: usual | 23:13 |
| apachelogger | DaSkreech: huh? | 23:15 |
| DaSkreech | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/JauntyJackalope/Alpha2/Kubuntu | 23:16 |
| apachelogger | thx | 23:17 |
| apachelogger | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/jaunty-alpha-2 | 23:23 |
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