[00:00] <EtFb> ActionParsnip: Might as well be.  They released a free-as-in-beer version called Turbo Delphi Explorer that isn't well supported (and of course the help files are typically Borland, ie crap) but it lets me produce Windows software for my users in a tenth of the time that Virus Studio would take, so... it'll do.
[00:01] <EtFb> (And when I say TDE "isn't supported", what I mean is: the company actively denies ever having released it and refuses to talk about it.  It's Orwellian...)
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> EtFb: fair point :)
[00:03] <EtFb> ActionParsnip: So anyhow, your experience with KDE4 was basically: ugh.  And then you got rid of it?
[00:06] <silleme> EtFb:  have been a pretty proficient and almost exclusive win xp user until i bothred breaking downand giving linux a try.  going only by screenshots, chose kubuntu feisty over most other versions of linux. also heard it was the most (GUI) friendly and a good run for a linux beginner.  also, hate to admit, layout was closest to that of windows as far as i know.
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> EtFb: yeah, although it was less offensive without kwin
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> EtFb: but not much
[00:07] <lovre> does anyone have IEEE acount here?
[00:07] <EtFb> silleme: I used Gnome initially, but hated it because it felt too much like a toy.  KDE is much more configurable - you can change more things about it to suit your tastes.  But it's less well supported by the Ubuntu community.
[00:08] <silleme> EtFb: what might the smoothest transition from feisty fawn jump be??
[00:08] <EtFb> silleme: But the rule with Kubuntu is: if you don't like how it looks, there's an option in either a dialog box or a configuration file (or both) to let you change it.
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | silleme
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> silleme: you will have to jump up one release at a time
[00:09] <gh0s7> hey guys anyone here to offer support?
[00:09] <EtFb> silleme: Personally, I can't recommend upgrading to Intrepid, based just on what I've read.  Also, don't to an update; back up everything and then do a fresh install.  That is: reformat your HD and install from scratch.
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> !ask | gh0s7
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> EtFb: its worth trying an upgrade, if it doesnt work do a clean install
[00:10] <saki> You know, I've grown accustom to GNOME, although KDE4.1 is starting to grow on me.
[00:10] <EtFb> ActionParsnip: I always found it aggravating.  Maybe it's improved.  (Gotta hope so!)
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> EtFb: as long as you use official repos you will have zero issues
[00:10] <EtFb> ActionParsnip: Really?  That's reassuring.  Maybe I'll try it when (if) I go to Intrepid.
[00:10] <gh0s7> forgive me, I was curious to know if there was any way I could make the KDE Pager function like Gnomes; that is, have the windows I have open on one desktop, show up ONLY on that one desktop (meaning the taskbar is clean if I have only windows open on desktop 1 and I move to desktop 2) any input is appreciated thanks!
[00:10] <saki> EtFb: I back-up all my data to a home server so fresh installs are the way I go.
[00:11] <EtFb> ... Though that seems like a way off, given the bad nears about KDE4.
[00:11] <EtFb> s/nears/news/
[00:11] <saki> KDE4's menu aggravates me, the desktop itself isn't bad, now.
[00:11] <EtFb> ActionParsnip: Does "official" include Medibuntu?
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> EtFb: my hmoe is on an smbmounted folder
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> EtFb: yep
[00:12] <EtFb> ActionParsnip: How does that work?  The home folder, I mean.
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> EtFb: so there is no user data on my local system
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> EtFb: its mounted at boot time with smbmount
[00:12] <EtFb> Doesn't that mean you can't get anything done without a network connection?
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> EtFb: well yeah but they are both desktops
[00:13] <EtFb> Gotcha.
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> plus my work laptops thunderbird / firefox also takes its config from the same share
[00:13] <EtFb> I'm thinking of making a separate home partition and never clearing it.  But a bit of spring cleaning every six months is good for the soul...
[00:13] <gh0s7> So is there anyway to hide windows open on another desktop? If I am on a different desktop? I would like KDE's pager to function like Gnome's.
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> so all my user data is in one place and backed up nightly
[00:14] <EtFb> ActionParsnip: Clever!  Paranoia is the primary virtue, after all.
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> EtFb: its not paranoid, its just intelligent use of a network to access a shared resource
[00:15] <COMMODORE64> Ok.So far I downloaded the synaptic, so far so good.
[00:15] <COMMODORE64> downloaded and installed ndiswrapper
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> gh0s7: you can set plasma to only show the apps on the current deskrop
[00:15] <silleme> All! | i would always definately prefer and insist on clean instal for any of my pcs... as said, i dont nkow much to anything about linux, kde, gnome, to be able to make educated guess about what versions might by the friendliest for a win xp gone linux knucklehead.  anyone have any feedback about what version(s) may be the most configurable with options for the most functionable yet basic (no frills) layout??
[00:15] <EtFb> Paranoia isn't a bad thing!  It's like laziness - an essential quality of a smart computer user.  It's been a couple of weeks since I rsync'd my home, usr, var and etc folders to my external HD...
[00:15] <COMMODORE64> and loaded my XP driver, it told me i'm missing the ndiswrapper.ko, so i download and reinstalled it.
[00:15] <COMMODORE64> and rebooted my laptop
[00:15] <COMMODORE64> and i have no net connection
[00:15] <gh0s7> ActionParsnip: plasma, how would I go about doing that?
[00:15] <COMMODORE64> so i disabled the free drivers
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> EtFb: the number of clowns who cmoe in here moannig they lost data due to drive corruption and its MEGA important but they have no backup is astounding
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> gh0s7: the black bar at the bottom of the screen is called plasma
[00:16] <EtFb> ActionParsnip: Indeed.  My heart bleeds for the poor dears... bwahahahahaha!
[00:16] <gh0s7> silleme: depends on the computer I think due to the fact that kubuntu uses more video memory than ubuntu. Both are pretty user friendly
[00:16] <COMMODORE64> after i blacklisted the free drivers, i cannot identify my wireless adapter
[00:16] <COMMODORE64> Any idea?
[00:16] <gh0s7> ActionParsnip: How would I configure it to hide apps on a different desktop?
[00:16] <EtFb> Anyhow, I should do some work.  Bye, all!
[00:17] <COMMODORE64> oh and, my desktop continues to kick my KDE start menu off, so how can i keep the KDE start up menu widget to stay in one place on every restart or startup?
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> anyone want to blow their minds: http://blog.bepointbe.be/index.php/2008/10/19/30-a-bit-of-plasma-profiling
[00:19] <gh0s7> ActionParsnip: How do I configure KDE 4 to have it's taskbar function like gnome's where it will hide windows on different desktops?
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> gh0s7: not sure, let me websearch
[00:20] <liam> how do u install java
[00:21] <silleme> gh0s7:  fairly decent box:  ~2.4 gh processor, 2 Gb ram, 256 mb video ram... pretty ok.
[00:21] <alonea> ok, am I going to have this touchpad problem in intrepid as well? I am talking to a friend and they have the same problem I do in hardy,
[00:21] <liam> how do u install java?
[00:22] <alonea> its like, it totally wiggy. while typing the cursor moves around and accidental pasting of text and opening applications on accident and its really difficult to use
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> COMMODORE64: put it on and log off and on, it should save the session data
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> !java | liam
[00:22] <alonea> !touchpad
[00:22] <gh0s7> Sorry guys, I think im switching to ubuntu lol
[00:22] <cuznt> !pastebin
[00:23] <COMMODORE64> and about my finding of wifi adapter?
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> liam: if you are using 64bit i'd recommend iced-tea
[00:23] <gh0s7> COMMODORE64: what is your wireless card's manufacturer?
[00:23] <cuznt> action pastebin from lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/88144/
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> COMMODORE64: lspci / lsusb
[00:23] <Cannoli> hey i created a folder in bash and downloaded a file using wget but i cant seem to see it in konqueror. any suggestions?
[00:24] <gh0s7> ActionParsnip: Could you find a link online on how to hide apps on a different desktop?
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> COMMODORE64: i'd uninstall the ndiswrapper stuff and unblacklist the thing you blacklisted
[00:24] <COMMODORE64> it's Intel Pro Wireless 4965AGN. Been following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper and im stumped at 3.2.1 and 3.2.2.
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> gh0s7: try ni #kde
[00:24] <cuznt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88144/
[00:24] <COMMODORE64> and how the heck can i unblacklist my blacklist thing?
[00:24] <cuznt> crap
[00:24] <cuznt> sorry
[00:25] <gh0s7> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[00:26] <COMMODORE64> ActionParsnip how can i unblacklist my blacklist?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> COMMODORE64: just undo what you did to get where you are now
[00:27] <COMMODORE64> No ActionParsnip.
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> ?#
[00:28] <COMMODORE64> I don't know how to unblacklist what i did.
[00:28] <COMMODORE64> So can you explain how i can unblacklist on what i did?
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> (00:16:29) COMMODORE64: after i blacklisted the free drivers, i cannot identify my wireless adapter
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> undo whatever you did for that step
[00:30] <COMMODORE64> I can identify my adapter, but after 3.2.1 the chipset ID doesn't match ( it was supposed to call for 104c:8400.
[00:30] <COMMODORE64> and the rest of steps also called for that, and i can't find it on lsusb.
[00:31] <COMMODORE64> and.
[00:32] <COMMODORE64> How can I unblacklist of what i did? I can't edit the blacklist file
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> COMMODORE64: you could also use a wired connection to get fully updated as well as install latest ndiswrapper from repos
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> COMMODORE64: well you did something earlier as you said you blacklisted it, so you should be able to unblacklist
[00:33] <gh0s7> ActionParsnip: Its in Task manager settings under the checkbox: only show tasks from current desktop
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> COMMODORE64: kdesudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[00:33] <gh0s7> ActionParsnip: thanks for your help anyway!
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> gh0s7: i use fluxbox ;)
[00:33] <COMMODORE64> I dont have the wired connection, so this is why i'm struggling to get better driver for my Wlan card.
[00:33] <COMMODORE64> and I'll try that.
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> COMMODORE64: if you have a router it will have 4 wired connections on the back
[00:34] <gh0s7> ActionParsnip: hm maybe Ill try it!
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> gh0s7: my desktop: http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj93/andrew_woodhead666/desktop.jpg?t=1229646871
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> gotta have some christmas :)
[00:35] <gh0s7> ActionParsnip: is fluxbox similar to blackbox for windows?
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> gh0s7: blackbox for windows?
[00:35] <gh0s7> ActionParsnip: does the Kmenu show up when you right click on the desktop?
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> gh0s7: blackbox was originally for linux, fluxbox is based on blackbox code
[00:36] <gh0s7> ActionParsnip: sounds like the answer to all my prayers! Ill try it I dont know if it will work with my Dell we'll see
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> gh0s7: nope, fluxbox menu
[00:37] <gh0s7> ActionParsnip: so it is based off blackbox, hmm I used to use blackbox for windows lol
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> gh0s7: http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tr/contentPics/techrepublic_fluxbox_desktop.jpg
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> gh0s7: not heard of it for windows, only linux
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> !blackbox
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> !info blackbox
[00:37] <COMMODORE64> ok thanks. I'll try that. No, I told you I don't have the wired connection.
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> see
[00:38] <gh0s7> ActionParsnip: thats exactly like blackbox for windows
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> i see, nice
[00:38] <gh0s7> thanks all! happy holidays!
[00:38] <raluksalut> raluk
[00:47] <DivineSpectrum> can i eat a plasmoid?
[00:48] <DivineSpectrum> is there anyone?
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> eat a plasmoid?
[00:49] <DivineSpectrum> yes
[00:49] <DivineSpectrum> i'm hungry
[00:49] <DivineSpectrum> is nor commestible a plasmoid?
[00:49] <DivineSpectrum> *not
[00:50] <DivineSpectrum> the swach
[00:50] <DivineSpectrum> swatch, for example
[00:50] <DivineSpectrum> sorry for my english
[00:51] <DivineSpectrum> La_Maga: can i eat a plasmoid?
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> DivineSpectrum: this is ubuntu support. a piece of installed software is not consumable. please read the guidelines
[00:54] <DivineSpectrum> ActionParsnip: but i'm hungry..
[00:55] <changturkey> woo just upgraded to 4.2 beta 2
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> changturkey: run it a while, see what you think
[00:56] <DivineSpectrum> changturkey: really ''pornografic'' no?
[00:56] <changturkey> really blue actually
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> changturkey: also, look at your ram use compared to 4.1 ;)
[00:57] <DivineSpectrum> the problem is i can't eat a plasmoid.
[00:57] <changturkey> seems more responsive
[00:57] <changturkey> but i still get these artifacts when opening windows and such
[00:57] <DivineSpectrum> hua
[00:58] <DivineSpectrum> changturkey: your are the best
[00:58] <changturkey> ?
[00:58] <changturkey> how so?
[00:59] <DivineSpectrum> boh
[01:15] <White_Pelican> I have a problem with virtual box. it seems incompatible with the newest kernel. any idea where I can get the kernel mudules for the current kernel?
[01:20] <feijo> hi folks, who can help me with route problem// my main machine dont navigate
[01:22] <COMMODORE64> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88182/ I deleted many irrevelant lines and left the wireless name and the ID.
[01:22] <COMMODORE64> I'm stumped.
[01:23] <radlipat> kk ineed help plz
[01:24] <radlipat> how i format second hardrive?
[01:24] <radlipat> it still has windows stuff on it but idc
[01:24] <radlipat> i only have 3 gig to work with right now
[01:31] <feijo> hi folks, who can help me with route problem// my main machine dont navigate
[01:32] <DaSkreech> Colonel_Panic: Ok back
[01:33] <feijo> hi DaSkreech :) my problem continue!! I'm reading about manual network configuration
[01:33] <DaSkreech> feijo: What's the current state?
[01:34] <feijo> DaSkreech: monday it simple worked, than since tuesday, stoped.  I returned from my trip today, I'm trying to config now.  It see my router with ip 192.168.0.1, there is only 1 default at route command, but dont navigate
[01:35] <feijo> the default have GW 0.0.0.0
[01:35] <DaSkreech> feijo: sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.1
[01:36] <feijo> now I have 2 default, both without GW, one using eth0 other vmnet1
[01:36] <COMMODORE64> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88182/ I deleted many irrevelant lines and left the wireless name and the ID.
[01:36] <COMMODORE64> I'm stumped.
[01:40] <alonea> hey, I had a problem with my touchpad when I had hardy, and when I upgraded to itrepid its fixed, however my friend when she installed intrepid from disk has the same touchpad problem I did
[01:40] <alonea> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#shmconfig
[01:41] <alonea> we tried that with no luck. ksynaptics doesnt seem to exist and gysnaptics reports shm isnt enabled after we followed the isntructions
[01:41] <wikki> having multiple desktops installed is a little confusing
[01:41] <keres> my new LCD widescreen monitor @ 1440x900 has a crazy latency
[01:42] <wikki> what kind do you have?
[01:42] <keres> anyone help?
[01:42] <keres> wikki: me?
[01:42] <wikki> yes you
[01:42] <keres> APEX digital
[01:42] <keres> 19'wide
[01:42] <wikki> how do you know it has bad latency?
[01:43] <keres> i click on something, it takes ~3 seconds for the menu to appear
[01:43] <wikki> ouch
[01:43] <keres> yeah
[01:43] <wikki> is it your video card?
[01:43] <wikki> try turning off desktop effects
[01:44] <DaSkreech> hi alonea
[01:46] <alonea> DaSkreech: yeah, that crazy touchpad thing is fixed for me now, but not my friend. we can't seem to find any of these packages mentioned except for gsynaptics and xinput. and the xorg thing is all different in intrepid so there is no inout device section i can play with
[01:46] <alonea> DaSkreech: and editing gksudo gedit /etc/hal/fdi/policy/shmconfig.fdi did not work. we are trying to follow this guide:
[01:47] <alonea> DaSkreech: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#shmconfig
[01:47] <wikki> what is the kde system monitor?
[01:47] <DaSkreech> alonea:
[01:47] <DaSkreech> If you put it in it will respect it so add it
[01:48] <DaSkreech> wikki: from ctrl+Esc you mean ?
[01:49] <alonea> DaSkreech: ok. but when the instructions are to add shmconfig true, i am not positive how to do the rest of the section.
[01:49] <DaSkreech> :-)
[01:49] <alonea> DaSkreech: and whats this xinput thing??
[01:49] <DaSkreech> alonea: That I don't know let me look at it
[01:49] <DaSkreech> alonea: Did you follow the instructions in the topic?
[01:50] <alonea> DaSkreech: yes, but in intrepid the xorg says we use HAL now and I think this xinput is the hal thing its talking about
[01:52] <DaSkreech> ok
[01:53] <DaSkreech> alonea: http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2
[01:54] <alonea> DaSkreech: you know anything about wow on wine? It runs now, but I still get no map in cities and icons are scrambled even though some people say that was fixed.
[01:54] <dr_willis> I would say check the wine app database for tips/problems with WoW
[01:54] <dr_willis> !appdb
[01:54] <DaSkreech> alonea: #winehq is better for that they field like 14 WOW questions an hour I'll bet
[01:55] <alonea> DaSkreech: probably
[01:55] <alonea> DaSkreech: ^_^
[01:55] <alonea> dr_willis: when I look, it says there are no issues with intel, yet I am telling you there is. its fubar with all games so far.
[01:55] <COMMODORE64> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88182/ I deleted many irrevelant lines and left the wireless name and the ID.
[01:55] <COMMODORE64> I'm stumped.
[01:56] <DaSkreech> Hey dr_willis I just got in try ing to feed dogs and self and change clothes while dealing with feijo and alonea can you at least look over her synaptics query? she's trying to find where to turn on shmConfig
[01:56] <COMMODORE64> Anyone can fricking help me with the wifi issues for ndiswrapper?
[01:56] <DaSkreech> What wifi chepset ?
[01:56] <dr_willis> DaSkreech,   For the touchpad? theres  a Ubuntu Wiki page on JUST taht topic I saw - let me check my bookmarks
[01:57] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: She's reading it I think. She can't follow it due to funky xorg config
[01:57] <DaSkreech> alonea: Is that correct?
[01:57] <legodude_> hi everyone, X seems to have forgotten my twinview setup exists, now it only spans across my two monitors
[01:57] <legodude_> it worked fine I believe until I installed some update, any ideas?
[01:58] <COMMODORE64> DaSkreech, read my pastebin.
[01:58] <alonea> DaSkreech: yeah, and I read not that xorg isn't really even used, you make these xml .fdi files for xinput
[01:58] <COMMODORE64> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88182/
[01:58] <dr_willis> DaSkreech,  the fix i saw did not invlove a xorg.conf tweak. it tweaked one of the hal config files
[01:58] <DaSkreech> !broadcom
[01:58] <legodude_> my xorg.conf file hasn't changed in three weeks so I do not believe it is that
[01:58] <alonea> dr_willis: we tried one with no success
[01:59] <alonea> dr_willis: gksudo gedit /etc/hal/fdi/policy/shmconfig.fdi ???
[01:59] <dr_willis> Its worked for other people in here..
[01:59] <wikki> is there a better way to make firefox look right other than installing the KFirefox theme?
[01:59] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#shmconfig
[01:59] <dr_willis> or one can just cut/paste a whole section in the end of the xorg.conf I think and set it that way
[01:59] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: ok talk with alonea :)
[01:59] <dr_willis> Ive said about all i know on the topic actually. :)
[01:59] <COMMODORE64> no no
[01:59] <dr_willis> that gedit fix. worked for someone in here just the otehr day
[02:00] <COMMODORE64> I blacklisted broadcom
[02:00] <COMMODORE64> and moved to the next step
[02:00] <alonea> dr_willis: we did that. and I think she restarted. and its still crazy and gsynaptics says its not enabled
[02:00] <alonea> dr_willis: the touchpad is near unusable for her.
[02:00] <COMMODORE64> my problem is that I can't find my adapter in lsusb.
[02:00] <feijo> DaSkreech: why dhclient dont restore my net anymore//
[02:00] <dr_willis> alonea,  sounds like some other isssue then - then the one the docs address...
[02:01] <alonea> dr_willis: the thing is, I had this exact issue on my laptop pn hardy, but when I upgraded to intrepid, its fixed (finally). she just did a clean install of intrepid.
[02:01] <dr_willis> All i know on the topic is what ive read at   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#shmconfig - ive never had any troubles with mine.
[02:02] <dr_willis> Ick. i gotta go to work in an hr. ;(
[02:02] <DaSkreech> COMMODORE64: it's in lspci ?
[02:02] <COMMODORE64> It is. I need to match with lsusb.
[02:02] <COMMODORE64> before proceeding to next step.
[02:03] <DaSkreech> feijo: try a dhclient -r first to dump all your old stuff
[02:03] <DaSkreech> COMMODORE64: What are you following?
[02:03] <feijo> DaSkreech: than a simple dhclient/
[02:03] <feijo> route
[02:03] <feijo> ops
[02:03] <DaSkreech> feijo: yes
[02:03] <COMMODORE64> DaSkreech https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#Disable%20Free%20Drivers I was finished blacklisting the Broadcom
[02:04] <COMMODORE64> and moved to next step in 3.2
[02:04] <COMMODORE64> read the step in 3.2
[02:04] <COMMODORE64> and DaSkreech this is original log.
[02:04] <COMMODORE64> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88214/
[02:05] <feijo> DaSkreech: whats wrong here: sudo route add -net default netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.0.1 dev eth0
[02:12] <geiseri> is there a way to install all of the development packages for the shared libs on an installation?
[02:14] <mellhen> good "morning" @ all
[02:15] <feijo> DaSkreech: I ran dhclient -r, dhclient, route del default (3 times), route add default gateway 192.168.0.1 dev eth0.  Now route return a good loking table with my correct default, and 3 vmware, but dont work :(
[02:15] <mellhen> does any one have the problem with a notceonnected localhost to systemmonitor and plasma (monitor applet)`
[02:16] <White_Pelican> what do I need to have installed to be able to see flac as an option when I open a Audio CD in Konqueror?
[02:16] <NamShub> are python plasmoid / data engine supposed to work?
[02:16] <DaSkreech> White_Pelican: Should be there by default
[02:17] <dr_willis> Other then checking the package manager for 'flac' and installing everything with flac in the name? :)
[02:17] <DaSkreech> COMMODORE64: maybe try the instructions for the lspci route ?
[02:17] <White_Pelican> it isn't
[02:17] <DaSkreech> feijo: you can see the gw ?
[02:17] <COMMODORE64> Just did.
[02:17] <White_Pelican> what am I missing
[02:17] <White_Pelican> ?
[02:17] <COMMODORE64> Been following the steps until i reached to lsusb. I have to confirm the wifi is in lsusb
[02:18] <feijo> DaSkreech: yes, I can access my router web page
[02:18] <COMMODORE64> It was supposed to be at the form of 104c:8400
[02:23] <COMMODORE64> Any suggestion, DaSkreech?
[02:26] <DaSkreech> feijo: can you ping 194.9.77.5 ?
[02:29] <DaSkreech> COMMODORE64: it is of that form
[02:29] <DaSkreech> 8086:4229
[02:29] <COMMODORE64> not what my log indicated of.
[02:29] <COMMODORE64> Yeah, that's one.
[02:29] <COMMODORE64> and it don't match with anything in lsusb.
[02:29] <COMMODORE64> did i miss something there?
[02:30] <COMMODORE64> or am i supposed to skip the step becuase of "lsusb" is meant for USB devices only?
[02:30] <DaSkreech> What? Which part are you following?
[02:30] <feijo> DaSkreech: network is unreachable
[02:30] <COMMODORE64> oy...
[02:30] <COMMODORE64> crap...
[02:30] <COMMODORE64> wasted my time.
[02:30] <COMMODORE64> 3.2.2. USB Wireless Adapter
[02:30] <COMMODORE64> 1.
[02:30] <COMMODORE64> Open a Terminal (Applications | Accessories | Terminal), type lsusb and press the return/enter key.
[02:30] <COMMODORE64> 2.
[02:30] <COMMODORE64> Look through the output of the lsusb command for an entry for your wireless adapter.
[02:30] <COMMODORE64> 3.
[02:30] <COMMODORE64> Once you have identified your adapter, note down the contents of the chipset ID, this will be in the form 104c:8400.
[02:30] <DaSkreech> feijo: are you sure your router is plugged in?
[02:30] <COMMODORE64> USB wireless adapter.
[02:31] <COMMODORE64> Figures.
[02:31] <DaSkreech> Argh don't paste in the chan!!!
[02:31] <feijo> DaSkreech: I'm talking to you :)
[02:31] <COMMODORE64> ^^
[02:31] <COMMODORE64> sorry for wastiing your time, DaSkreech
[02:31] <COMMODORE64> :)
[02:31] <DaSkreech> feijo: this is the same machine?
[02:31] <feijo> DaSkreech: yes, all vmware clients access internet, host dont
[02:32] <feijo> DaSkreech: host is confunsing vmware virtual devices and trying to use it, I guess
[02:32] <DaSkreech> feijo: As I recall you said this happened before you made the vmware clients
[02:33] <feijo> DaSkreech: I belive it started after I updated vmware to 1.0.8 again, when kubuntu updates itself, the kernel maybe, it breaks vmware, vmware dont open until I run the install.pl again
[02:33] <draik> I'm trying to print and it goes to the kJobViewer or whatever it's called, then goes away. Both of my printers are on and ready to print, but nothing happens.
[02:33] <feijo> I ran it last week, and I belive after that, when I turned my machine on again, no internet
[02:34] <feijo> DaSkreech: I could remove vmware to test, but if I do that, I will lose my remote kubuntu, and if my host dont return, I will have no way to research or access IRC except eeepc from my girl, ugs :)
[02:34] <feijo> DaSkreech: and I need a virtual windows to run a app. to my girl, maybe I could try vmware 2
[02:34] <DaSkreech> genii: ping :)
[02:35] <DaSkreech> stdin: Ever heard of this?
[02:35] <COMMODORE64> well. I'll be back, hopefully i can get around of this stupid problem.
[02:36] <draik> I'm in my System Settings and have nothing for Printers
[02:36] <draik> What gives?
[02:38] <wikki> anyone know how to keep firefox from looking like crap?
[02:40] <dr_willis> wikki,  thats a big vague.. It is themeable if thats what you want.
[02:40] <dr_willis> oops bit vague. :)
[02:40] <wikki> well, like the checkboxes are huge
[02:40] <wikki> and don't match the background
[02:40] <DaSkreech> draik: what version of kde  are you on?
[02:41] <draik> kde4
[02:41] <wikki> there is this kde4+firexox theme
[02:41] <dr_willis> cant say  that ive noticed that issue wikki  -    Could be some kd4 vs firefox issue I guess...
[02:41] <wikki> youre on kde3?
[02:41] <dr_willis> I tend to just use the defaults.. but im not in KDE4 at this time  - or KDE at all. :)
[02:42] <wikki> how do I take a screenshot?
[02:42] <wikki> i'll show you
[02:42] <draik> DaSkreech: KDE 4.1.3
[02:44]  * feijo need to sleep
[02:44]  * feijo will try again tomorrow :) thanks DaSkreech
[02:44] <DaSkreech> feijo: ok this is puzzling though
[02:44] <DaSkreech> wikki: ksnapshot
[02:45] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: Still on KDE3?
[02:45] <feijo> DaSkreech: I will go with my idea... remove vmware 1, test connection, if OK I will try use vmware 2
[02:45] <draik> !printer
[02:45] <wikki> i'll just stick with gnome
[02:46] <wikki> maybe installing kubuntu-desktop on a 2 year old install was a bad idea
[02:47] <DaSkreech> firefox has huge checkboxes?
[02:47] <wikki> yes
[02:48] <wikki> which isn't really a big deal, but they didn't match the background
[02:48] <wikki> and were sometimes hidden and stuff
[02:49] <DaSkreech> Do you have gk-qt engine?
[02:49] <wikki> yes
[02:50] <Cannoli> where would the .config for my kernel be?
[02:50] <DaSkreech> wikki: ok I guess lets see the screenshot
[02:50] <DaSkreech> Cannoli: Hmm?
[02:50] <wikki>  /usr/src/linux
[02:51] <White_Pelican> is the new amarok 2 available in the kde 4.2 beta 1?
[02:51] <wikki> if you compiled your own kernel
[02:52] <wikki> i'll mess with it later
[02:52] <wikki> back to gnome for me
[02:53] <Cannoli> i need help configuring my Processor type and features in the kernel. where can i find the settings for my cpu?
[02:54] <dr_willis> Been using jwm+rox-filer lately :)
[02:56] <draik> How do I gain access to the Printers tool within System Settings?
[02:57] <draik> It is not listed.
[02:58] <mister-tea> draik: I set mine up from the k menu> system> printers
[02:59] <draik> mister-tea: Yeah, so did I, but it is no longer listed.
[02:59] <mister-tea> hmmm
[03:02] <draik> mister-tea: I'm sorry, I have Printing there, but it doesn't let me make changes. It all seems greyed out for a strange reason.
[03:02] <mister-tea> draik I have two listings for printing... only one shows the config
[03:03] <mister-tea> greyed out would be related to permissions ...but I don't know why
[03:07] <steven> Not sure how this works or if I'm butting in, but I'm experiencing a packaging error in the KDE Beta 2 packages in kubuntu-experimental
[03:07] <steven> I think
[03:18] <DaSkreech> Cannoli: Most features are compiled in already if yo uant a kernel for a particualr processor type just install it
[03:19] <Cannoli> so do i need to change the settings?
[03:28] <szrhawaii> nedd help with this problem anyone know how to fix everytime i go to close my filemanager screen i get this error { Unable to save bookmarks in /home/szrhawaii/.kde/share/apps/d#lphin/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Permission denied. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full drive. }This error messages shows up everytime i close out of my
[03:28] <szrhawaii> file manager window but only for that window any clues on how to fix
[03:30] <szrhawaii> [19:28] <szrhawaii> nedd help with this problem anyone know how to fix everytime i go to close my filemanager screen i get this error { Unable to save bookmarks in /home/szrhawaii/.kde/share/apps/d#lphin/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Permission denied. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full drive. }This error messages shows up everytime
[03:30] <szrhawaii> i close out of my
[03:30] <szrhawaii> [19:28] <szrhawaii> file manager window but only for that window any clues on how to fix
[03:30] <szrhawaii> ooopsy
[03:30] <mister-tea> you are denied permissions try to open your filemanager with sudo from konsole
[03:31] <szrhawaii> ok then what cause i can still use the filemanager like normal and it opens and closes fine earlier today it even locked all my folders for fun
[03:31] <szrhawaii> what do i do when i sudo dolphin
[03:31] <mister-tea> you open it as the root user with full permissions
[03:32] <szrhawaii> should i kdesudo or sudo
[03:32] <mister-tea> kde for graphical
[03:32] <szrhawaii> ok
[03:32] <szrhawaii> sszrhawaii@szrhawaii-laptop:~$ sudo dolphin
[03:32] <szrhawaii> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-szrhawaii" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[03:32] <szrhawaii> Error: "/tmp/ksocket-szrhawaii" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[03:33] <szrhawaii> thats what i got
[03:34] <mister-tea> then idk I manage my files with kate and konqueror
[03:34] <COMMODORE64> Ok. still here DaSkreech?
[03:34] <DaSkreech> yes
[03:34] <szrhawaii> im in root now
[03:34] <szrhawaii> mister-tea
[03:34] <DaSkreech> Cannoli: No
[03:34]  * mister-tea doesn't like dolphin
[03:34] <COMMODORE64> I went ahead and followed the instructions
[03:34] <COMMODORE64> and at end, i still cant see the wlan0 on my networkl ist
[03:34] <COMMODORE64> any idea
[03:34] <szrhawaii> oh i can root it through the window so its not so bad
[03:35] <szrhawaii> actually come to think of it that error didnt show up a minute ago
[03:35] <szrhawaii> when i closed out
[03:35] <mister-tea> depending on the permissions of the file you are working with will depend on whether you will need to be root or not
[03:36] <mister-tea> if you look at the file properties and you see the owner is root then....
[03:38] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: is your /home full ?
[03:39] <szrhawaii> when i looked at it through a different view it had quit a few things on it
[03:39] <szrhawaii> but i dont know about full
[03:39]  * mister-tea my bad I assumed not
[03:40] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: df -h
[03:41] <szrhawaii> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[03:41] <szrhawaii> /dev/sda1             146G   26G  113G  19% /
[03:41] <szrhawaii> varrun                501M  104K  501M   1% /var/run
[03:41] <szrhawaii> varlock               501M     0  501M   0% /var/lock
[03:41] <szrhawaii> udev                  501M   44K  501M   1% /dev
[03:41] <szrhawaii> devshm                501M     0  501M   0% /dev/shm
[03:41] <szrhawaii> lrm                   501M   39M  463M   8% /lib/modules/2.6.24-22-generic/volatile
[03:41] <szrhawaii> thats what it says
[03:41] <COMMODORE64> DaSkreech?
[03:41] <DaSkreech> COMMODORE64: I'm rereading the page
[03:41] <COMMODORE64> thanks :)
[03:41] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: Please don't paste here
[03:42] <DaSkreech> !paste
[03:42] <szrhawaii> ok doesnt look like im using much room for anything
[03:42] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: What file is the error about?
[03:42] <szrhawaii> the dolphin
[03:43] <szrhawaii>  /home/szrhawaii/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml
[03:43] <szrhawaii> thats the error source
[03:44] <szrhawaii> it doesnt show that thing when i go into root mode
[03:44] <szrhawaii> only when i am in the other mode
[03:44] <Lefo> does vnc viewer able to connect to remote sharing of kubuntu?
[03:44]  * mister-tea aha
[03:47] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: What's the permissons on  that? paste the output of ls -l  /home/szrhawaii/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml
[03:47] <szrhawaii> so what do you want me to do with that
[03:48] <DaSkreech> COMMODORE64: The drver was installed correctly
[03:48] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: It's one line you can paste it here
[03:48] <COMMODORE64> Yes.
[03:48] <DaSkreech> two lines go to pastebin
[03:49] <COMMODORE64> I runs to modprobe ndiswrapper ( it dont display anything but next to new line )
[03:49] <COMMODORE64> well i mean returns to my command
[03:49] <Lefo> has anyone tried remote sharing, i am using vista to connect to it n it's very laggy
[03:49] <COMMODORE64> and the driver ( Ndiswrapper -l shows that my driver is installed properly
[03:49] <Lefo> n both computers r in the same network
[03:49] <szrhawaii> bash: -l: command not found
[03:51] <Adola> Hi everyone!  I'm having trouble with Kopete and AmaroK's dBus function
[03:51] <mister-tea> is that an L or or a pipe?
[03:51] <DaSkreech> ls -l
[03:52] <mister-tea> k
[03:52] <szrhawaii> it says its a root
[03:52] <DaSkreech> COMMODORE64: You did sudo depmod -a ?
[03:52] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: Tha would be  the problem
[03:52] <mister-tea> full circle
[03:53] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: sudo chown szrhawaii:szr  /home/szrhawaii/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml
[03:53] <COMMODORE64> Yes.
[03:53] <COMMODORE64> Hang on
[03:53] <COMMODORE64> yes
[03:53] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: sudo chown szrhawaii:szrhawaii  /home/szrhawaii/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml
[03:53] <COMMODORE64> I even did sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:53] <szrhawaii> it doesnt give me an option to change the permission so i would have to g in as root and change the permission right
[03:53] <COMMODORE64> and when i did tail /var/log/messages it lists the something
[03:53] <DaSkreech> COMMODORE64: does lsmod show ndiswrapper ?
[03:54] <COMMODORE64> and the last one gave out when it has " Denied"
[03:54] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: Just gave you the command
[03:54] <COMMODORE64> I dont know but I can go back and take the log for you, DaSkreech
[03:54] <szrhawaii> it didnt work
[03:55] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: are you using dolphin or d3lphin ?
[03:55] <COMMODORE64> I'll be back and pick up the log for you, DaSkreech
[03:55] <COMMODORE64> What commands you need me to run for you?
[03:56] <DaSkreech> lsmod
[03:56] <szrhawaii> dolphin but the error says d3lphin
[03:56] <mister-tea> night all
[03:56] <szrhawaii> its wierd
[03:57] <szrhawaii> should i make the whole file a read and write
[03:58] <COMMODORE64> lsmod
[03:58] <COMMODORE64> right, all right ill be back again
[03:59] <szrhawaii> ok it works now
[03:59] <szrhawaii> i just gave the whole folder the ability to read and write thats all it was
[04:00] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: dolphin in KDE3 ?
[04:00] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: Bah :ok :)
[04:01] <Adola> QSqlQuery::prepare: database not open
[04:01] <Adola> I get this error when I try to send media info from AmarOK through Kopete.
[04:02] <Adola> Can someone please help me with this?
[04:05]  * chalcedony smiles
[04:06] <Adola> ~cough~
[04:06] <steven2> hello!
[04:06] <steven2> hi steven
[04:06] <Adola> sorry,
[04:06]  * Adola coughs
[04:06] <DaSkreech> Adola: What database are you using with Amarok ?
[04:06]  * Adola looks up and waits.
[04:06] <chalcedony> is there anything (document) that can help me set up kprinter to work with my two hp printers? (they both worked with my computer before, but not for a while)
[04:06] <steven2> steven: would you mind switching nicks please?
[04:06] <DaSkreech> !hp
[04:06] <DaSkreech> hmm
[04:07] <DaSkreech> !priner
[04:07] <chalcedony> DaSkreech :)
[04:07] <DaSkreech> !printer
[04:07] <DaSkreech> chalcedony: I'm almost sure there is a HP specific section there ...
[04:07] <Adola> Daskreech: I don't know.   I don't know what "Database" would even refer too.  I'm just wanting the "now listening" plugin for Kopete to work with AmaroK 2.
[04:07] <chalcedony> i'm trying to figure out what to check
[04:07] <DaSkreech> are you using amarok 2 ?
[04:07] <steven2> nevermind
[04:08] <COMMODORE64> ok DaSkreech
[04:08] <COMMODORE64> Im pasting it on pastebin.
[04:09] <Adola> DaSkreech: Yes, yes I am.  The latest version.  Along with the latest version of Kopete.
[04:09] <derjens> hello everybody
[04:09] <DaSkreech> Adola: It's a kopete issue that plugin needs to be rewritten
[04:09] <chalcedony> "Remote CUPS Server (IPP/HTTP)" or "Network Printer" or "Network Printer w/IPP (IPP/HTTP}" Repote LPD queue" ?
[04:09] <derjens> you can tell me how to change my user password in kubuntu 8.10?
[04:09] <chalcedony> i don't know what those are
[04:10] <Adola> DaSkreech: Alot of people's works though.
[04:10] <COMMODORE64> (DaSkreech): http://paste.ubuntu.com/88262/
[04:10] <derjens> after changing my password with the user manager i could not access my ~/Private dir
[04:10] <derjens> so how to change it safely?
[04:12] <DaSkreech> Adola: hmm none I've heard about
[04:12] <DaSkreech> Adola: #kopete is likely dead now #amarok may be helpful
[04:12] <Adola> DaSkreech: There was a guy on here yesterday who's worked.
[04:12] <Adola> Both are dead.
[04:12] <DaSkreech> derjens: try passwd ?
[04:13] <derjens> DaSkreech, will i loose my private dir with passwd?
[04:13] <DaSkreech> derjens: I'm not sure. I've never tried it should work seamlessly
[04:14] <szrhawaii> #vbox
[04:14] <COMMODORE64> Take your time, DaSkreech, call me when you need my attention.
[04:14] <derjens> i will try it but i do not understand why passwd would work even when kde's integrated user manager breaks private dirs...
[04:15] <chalcedony> i'm using kprint "Remote CUPS Server (IPP/HTTP)" or "Network Printer" or "Network Printer w/IPP (IPP/HTTP}" Repote LPD queue" ?
[04:15] <chalcedony> the printers are on a lan
[04:15] <chalcedony> so which do i pick?
[04:16] <DaSkreech> derjens: The directory is encrypted with a password as I understand it uses our current password to decrypt it I would think that changing your password changes the key
[04:16] <derjens> i will have a tr
[04:16] <derjens> * try
[04:16] <derjens> DaSkreech, thanks so far
[04:18] <DaSkreech> chalcedony: Is the printer standalone ?
[04:20] <DaSkreech> COMMODORE64: It's running
[04:21] <DaSkreech> COMMODORE64: You said it doesn't turn up? Where did you check ?
[04:21] <COMMODORE64> i can see my knetwork manager
[04:22] <COMMODORE64> i can see my eth0 but i saw my wlan0 before i started on this instructions
[04:22] <DaSkreech> COMMODORE64: try ifconfig
[04:22] <COMMODORE64> these*
[04:22] <COMMODORE64> it came up as eth0
[04:22] <COMMODORE64> but iwconfig shows that it wasn't configured
[04:24] <DaSkreech> sudo ifconfig -a doesn't show it ?
[04:26] <COMMODORE64> hmm
[04:26] <COMMODORE64> no i havent tried -a
[04:26] <COMMODORE64> Gimme a handful of commands you wanted me to run instead going back and forth on dual boots.
[04:28] <DaSkreech> COMMODORE64: sudo ifconfig -a or sudo iwconfig -a will show you all the cards disabled or not.
[04:29] <DaSkreech> sudo ifconfg wlan0 up will bring it up if it's disabled
[04:29] <COMMODORE64> Thank you. I'll try that.
[04:31] <derjens> DaSkreech, thanks for the hint
[04:31] <derjens> passwd worked flawlessly
[04:31] <derjens> i don't know how but it changed my ecryptfs files...
[04:32] <szrhawaii> whats the terminal code to see the packages installed for a certain program
[04:34] <chalcedony> why does kprint list the Subnet as 127.0.1. * ? shouldn't it be 192.168.1 or so?
[04:34] <chalcedony> it's not finding my printers
[04:35] <derjens> szrhawaii, do you mean the dependencies of a certain program?
[04:35] <szrhawaii> yeah
[04:37] <derjens> apt-get build-dep kmines -fs
[04:37] <derjens> szrhawaii, this is not perfect but it works
[04:37] <szrhawaii> ok thanks
[04:37] <derjens> still looking for the right option in `man apt-get`
[04:38] <derjens> didnt found anything better. does it work for you, szrhawaii ?
[04:38] <Dolo> i cant play mp4 files is there any way to convert it to mp3?
[04:39] <derjens> Dolo, dont forget that mp4 can contain more than mp3 audio, e.g. movie data
[04:39] <Dolo> ?
[04:39] <Dolo> derjens: its an audio book im trying to listen to
[04:39] <derjens> Dolo, do you want to extract audio from mp4 file to an mp3 file?
[04:39] <szrhawaii> its fine
[04:39] <derjens> szrhawaii, k
[04:40] <szrhawaii> anyone know what VPN stands for
[04:40] <derjens> virtual private network
[04:40] <szrhawaii> ohh ok
[04:40] <derjens> Dolo, try google mencoder
[04:40] <Dolo> derjens:  I been trying to use vlc but not getting any sound from that one file so i thought there might be a converter so i can change it to a playable format
[04:40] <szrhawaii> so if i add my virtual machines address to it then i should have access to the internet through it
[04:40] <derjens> it's part of mplayer package
[04:41] <Dolo> u mean iriverter?
[04:41] <derjens> Dolo, you have already installed non-free codecs? maybe not. then you will not be able to play mp3 anyway
[04:41] <Dolo> i can listen to mp3 and avi just fine
[04:41] <Dolo> this audio book thought works on ipod not on my ubuntu
[04:41] <COMMODORE64> DaSkreech, i'm suspecting something wrong with ndiswrapper. http://paste.ubuntu.com/88280/
[04:42] <derjens> szrhawaii, VPN is for establishing a private network connection over an untrusted network. it looks like an ethernet cable but is actually a VPN connection through DSL dial-up or similar
[04:43] <Dolo> ??
[04:43] <derjens> Dolo, http://gimpel.gi.funpic.de/wiki/index.php?title=Howto:convert_aac/mp4_to_wav/mp3/ogg_on_Linux
[04:43] <szrhawaii> ok so if i set that up then it would mean that i am firewalling my computer from the information coming and leaving in a way
[04:44] <Dolo> derjens:  what should i do
[04:44] <DaSkreech> COMMODORE64: perhaps. You can't attach a wire to the computer?
[04:44] <derjens> Dolo, do you have any experience using the console?
[04:45] <COMMODORE64> well i have working wlan on vista
[04:45] <COMMODORE64> is there something i can do offline installation?
[04:45] <Dolo> oh ya
[04:45] <Dolo> i just wanted to know if u have an ipod
[04:46] <DaSkreech> COMMODORE64: What do you mean?
[04:46] <derjens> Dolo, i do not have an ipod
[04:46] <Dolo> i also have a lil problem when i plug the ipod in and i browse for the music on ubuntu all the files have wierd 4 letter names
[04:46] <OrcD3vil> How can I get Monitor Spanning on Kubuntu to work, right now on both of my DVI Monitors they are showing the same desktop
[04:47] <OrcD3vil> I've went into the monitor control and set the 1st one "Left of" and the second one "Right of" but that isnt working
[04:47] <dennister> hey channel...installation (from mini-iso) has frozen system right after I chose to install the grub bootloader...second after chose the grub step framebufer came on and has stayed that way for 30 minutes...can't even budge the electronic kvm switch system is connected to,...even unplugged kvm and the light stays on!...will NOT go off, even though there's no power to said kvm
[04:48] <derjens> Dolo, i know nothing about iPods
[04:48] <Dolo> ahh
[04:48] <COMMODORE64> hmm
[04:48] <Dolo> my mplayer cant play the file
[04:48] <Dolo> will it be able to convert the file?
[04:49] <COMMODORE64> how can i do to fix the wireless problem without plugging the line in?
[04:49] <dennister> lol...anyway, before I reboot two systems kvm controls...is there any way to rescue the install without grub installed and without doing everything all over again?
[04:49] <derjens> Dolo, did you try faad? the wiki wrote about it
[04:50] <Dolo> doing that now brb
[04:50] <DaSkreech> COMMODORE64: You can but having net is easier I think
[04:52] <COMMODORE64> well, can you provide me the steps for doing without wire?
[04:52] <COMMODORE64> If not possible, ill ask and see if i can borrow a wire from landlord.
[04:52] <derjens> Dolo, i'll be away for about 5 mins
[04:53] <dennister> DaSkreech: do u have any ideas? alt-f4 doesn't even get me past the stationary framebuffer...definitely stuck/frozen
[04:54] <chalcedony> "Could not launch the KDE Help Center"  Could not find service "khelpcenter"
[04:55] <chalcedony> COMMODORE64: it's easier to debug your computer's problems if you have a secure network connection.
[04:55] <Dolo> derjens:  its an m4b
[04:55] <chalcedony> but i see it works on vista
[04:55] <COMMODORE64> hmph.
[04:56] <COMMODORE64> fine, i'll ask for a wire tomorrow.
[04:56] <chalcedony> COMMODORE64: if you hang around someone else usually comes
[04:57] <chalcedony> i'm trying to set up my two printers with kprint
[04:57] <chalcedony> which works very well for my husband
[04:57] <chalcedony> so far, it doesn't seem to be ON my network.
[04:58] <chalcedony> why does kprint list the Subnet as 127.0.1. * ? shouldn't it be 192.168.1 or so?  it's showing some printer i don't have
[05:04] <derjens> Dolo, back
[05:04] <derjens> Dolo, did you succeed?
[05:04] <COMMODORE64> well ok, what can i do after i get a wire, DaSkreech?
[05:05] <Dolo> not even a little
[05:05] <szrhawaii> is there a way to run the version of knetwork from kde 4.1 in kde 3.5 since they have significant amount of difference in available options
[05:05] <DaSkreech> COMMODORE64: use eth0 :-)
[05:06] <Psi-Jack> Curious. Anyone here do any C++ and work somewhat with hardware, or SDL, or X11 libs? I'm trying to find out how to get the actual amount of VRAM a video card has through proper methods than entrudging through the xorg.logs.
[05:06] <Dolo> derjens: no
[05:07] <szrhawaii> or get a newer version of network manager from 0.6.6-0ubuntu5 to a newer version
[05:08] <szrhawaii> also what plug-in or file should i install so i can run adobe flash, macromedia, and java properly on my konqueror browser or can i get the newer version that they have in kde 4.1 for kde 3.5
[05:09] <Dolo> derjens:  it didnt work dunno what to do
[05:09] <Dolo> derjens:  its an m4b
[05:10] <derjens> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=170838
[05:10] <derjens> look at that doc
[05:10] <derjens> if that does not help, i don't know what to do as well
[05:11] <derjens> never had to do with mp4 and all other formats work without probs for me
[05:12] <COMMODORE64> well
[05:12] <COMMODORE64> I wanted to fix my wlan0
[05:12] <COMMODORE64> what can i do to fix it when i get my wire?
[05:13] <szrhawaii> found the version for the network manager but anyone got a source for me to upgrade my konqueror to the newer version
[05:18] <szrhawaii> anyone know the ppa for konqueror upgrades
[05:21] <jn20> hey guys... I have a problem with kstars... Can't start the INDI server...
[05:21] <jn20> Can anyone help me?
[05:21] <COMMODORE64> DaSkreech, any idea what i can do when i get a line to fix my wlan?
[05:22] <patria> hello
[05:25] <jn20> Connection to INDI host at localhost on port 7264 encountered an error: The remote host closed the connection. is the error message...
[05:28] <jn20> how the heck can the remote host close the connection, on a virtual server???
[05:32] <Dolo> anyone know how to convert an m4b file
[05:35] <jn20> ehm, its an audio book file right...
[05:35] <Dolo> jn20: ya m4b
[05:36] <jn20> do you use the chapter function, because it will be lost when converting to mp3 or ogg or...
[05:37] <Dolo> i dont care about the chapter thing i cant listen to it on ubuntu
[05:37] <jn20> actually you can... do you have vlc installed...
[05:37] <Dolo> ya
[05:38] <jn20> have you tried opening it with vlc???
[05:38] <jn20> http://www.fileinfo.net/extension/m4b list vlc as being able to open the format
[05:38] <Dolo> ya..
[05:39] <Dolo> i plugged the ipod into ubuntu
[05:39] <Dolo> all the files have wierd 4 letter names
[05:39] <Dolo> i dont mind that so much but the audio books no longer work
[05:40] <Dolo> i use vlc almost all the time i tried installing amaraok and various other converting and programs and players
[05:40] <Dolo> not sure what im doing wrong
[05:40] <jn20> try to rename the file into .m4a
[05:40] <Dolo> did
[05:40] <jn20> ithmm, does the file have drm?
[05:41] <Dolo> whats a drm
[05:42] <jn20> a little thing called "Digital Rights Management"... DRM.... it's a piece of software that controls the usage of a file...
[05:43] <Dolo> dunno
[05:43] <jn20> did you buy it in itunes?
[05:43] <Dolo> no
[05:44] <Dolo> was trying to dl it from my friends ipod
[05:44] <Dolo> not sure where he got it
[05:45] <szrhawaii> what is the code for terminal to install a file from a location like /home is it sudo apt-get install ~/home <filename>
[05:45] <dwidmann> szrhawaii: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/filename
[05:45] <stdin> szrhawaii: sudo dpkg -i ~/package.deb
[05:45] <szrhawaii> thanks
[05:46] <Dolo> jn20:  ???
[05:47] <szrhawaii> it says its not a debian package
[05:47] <jn20> ehm, dolo... try searching google for frm aplle and m4b... you have as much experience as ido on how to break drm...
[05:47] <szrhawaii> its atually a shell script  installer
[05:47] <jn20> damn my spelling sucks today..
[05:47] <szrhawaii> so what would the code be for that
[05:47] <jn20> apple drm m4b
[05:47] <stdin> szrhawaii: then you need to use "sudo bash ~/filename" to install (as root)
[05:48] <Dolo> so what are u saying cuz of the drm it will only play on the ipod?
[05:48] <jn20> yes, and probaly only on your friends ipod...
[05:48] <szrhawaii> ok that sounds more like something i did before
[05:48] <jn20> but drm can be broken.
[05:49] <jn20> http://mostlysavingmoney.com/2007/06/how-to-break-itunes-drm/ here's alittle something to get you started
[05:49] <stdin> please don't post information to illegal activities in here
[05:50] <stdin> even if DRM is evil
[05:50] <Dolo> sry i didnt relize it was a legal thing
[05:50] <COMMODORE64> thanks jn20, much appreciated
[05:51] <jn20> depends on your country, I'm hosted in DK and here that is legal
[05:51] <szrhawaii> so in other words it would be sudo bash ~/home/szrhawaii/Desktop/install_flash_player_10_linux/flashplayer-installer
[05:51] <szrhawaii> do i throw an install command in there too
[05:52] <jn20> besides giving out info is not illegal... even if that info can be used illegally...
[05:52] <stdin> szrhawaii: that command will work, but flash 10 is in the repositories
[05:52] <szrhawaii> not for kde 3.5
[05:52] <COMMODORE64> Canada here
[05:52] <szrhawaii> its only 9
[05:52] <COMMODORE64> its legal as long as you do it for yourself, not others.
[05:53] <stdin> jn20: showing someone how to make a bomb is not illegal, but you'd be partially responsible when they blow something up
[05:53] <szrhawaii> unless you got the repo for the 10
[05:53] <szrhawaii> just need a ppa
[05:53] <jn20> good luck with the breaking...
[05:53] <mahdi> #linuxac
[05:54] <COMMODORE64> ^^
[05:54] <stdin> szrhawaii: hardy?
[05:54] <jn20> so it'sbassicly illegal to teach chemistry?
[05:54] <COMMODORE64> Nope.
[05:54] <jn20> or to run a library
[05:54] <stdin> don't be difficult, just don't post those links here
[05:54] <jn20> kk
[05:55] <dwidmann> szrhawaii: why not just grab the .deb off of adobe.com then?
[05:55] <szrhawaii> it keeps saying cant find package
[05:55] <jn20> so next time just link google...
[05:55] <szrhawaii> do you know where its located on adobe
[05:55] <stdin> jn20: next time, just /msg them
[05:55] <jn20> fair enough, my bad
[05:56] <stdin> szrhawaii: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[05:56] <stdin> choose ".deb for Ubuntu 8.04+"
[05:59] <szrhawaii> it says install
[06:00] <szrhawaii> thanks stdin
[06:00] <szrhawaii> i didnt see that earlier
[06:03] <kkkyle> helllo?
[06:04] <kkkyle> does anyoneknow if nUbuntu is anygood?
[06:05] <hyper_ch> no
[06:05] <stdin> kkerwin: you should probably ask in #nubuntu
[06:05] <kkkyle> lol
[06:05] <kkkyle> yea
[06:05] <stdin> we don't support it and it's not an official distribution
[06:06] <kkkyle> i didnt think it was i looked kinda crappy
[06:06] <szrhawaii> do you know the package name to run flash players for the web browsers
[06:06] <szrhawaii> i meant java
[06:07] <szrhawaii> nevernind found it
[06:09] <szrhawaii> hey im getting a big circle with a play icon on all my player things on the web browser
[06:10] <szrhawaii> do i need to download anything else
[06:10] <szrhawaii> i did java and adobe
[06:12] <wt> Is there a way to do the equivalent of "apt-cache search <word1> <word2>" with aptitude's search functionality?
[06:17] <dwidmann> wt: aptitude search <word1> <word2> ...
[06:18] <wt> dwidmann: it doesn't do the same thing
[06:18] <wt> dwidmann: it searches for each word separately
[06:18] <wt> I want all package that have word1 and word2, not either word1 or word2
[06:18] <dwidmann> wt: think that's as close as you're going to get short of just using apt-cache
[06:19] <wt> I like the output of aptitude better...that seems like a bit of an oversight. :)
[06:22] <stdin> wt: use grep?
[06:23] <wt> grep won't search the long descriptions
[06:24] <wt> i suposed that I could mangle the apt-cache output to look like aptitude, but that'd be kinda lame
[06:25] <szrhawaii> how do i add the flash plug-in to firefox
[06:25] <szrhawaii> since i downloaded it manually
[06:25] <wt> szrhawaii: aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:25] <wt> szrhawaii: why would you manually download it?
[06:25] <p_quarles> wt: the man page indicates that aptitude can understand some search patterns, but points elsewhere for further information
[06:26] <p_quarles> wt: so, I don't know how, but it doesn't look like you'll have to mangle the output manually -- you might have to track down some further reference material, though
[06:26] <wt> p_quarles: it's search pattern don't appear to include the concept of "look for any of these words in the package name, short description, or long description" directly that I could tell
[06:27] <szrhawaii> do have the latest version of flash on kde 3.5 but have flash 10
[06:27] <szrhawaii> thats why
[06:27] <p_quarles> szrhawaii: the instructions are in the file you downloaded :)
[06:28] <szrhawaii> nah it was just a deb file
[06:28] <wt> szrhawaii: I am sure there is a howto somewhere
[06:28] <szrhawaii> probable
[06:28] <p_quarles> szrhawaii: if it's a deb file then you install it with gdebi, or dpkg
[06:28] <wt> if it installs like the deb package into firefox's plugins, you probably just need to make KDE search for new plugins
[06:29] <szrhawaii> i installed it
[06:29] <szrhawaii> already
[06:29] <wt> did you make KDE search for the new plugins?
[06:29] <p_quarles> then like wt said, you go to Konqueror's plugin menu to ask for it to scan
[06:29] <szrhawaii> but cant find it on firefox the only one i see is the 9
[06:29] <szrhawaii> one
[06:30] <wt> It's in Konqueror's configuration for plugins
[06:30] <szrhawaii> i saw it in there
[06:30] <szrhawaii> but not in the firefox one
[06:30] <szrhawaii> its added in konqueror
[06:30] <wt> do you see the directory where the plugin is installed in that configuration dialog?
[06:30] <p_quarles> ??? are you sure that Firefox is using Flash 9?
[06:31] <szrhawaii> yeah
[06:31] <szrhawaii> i just turned it off because it was blocking me from seeing apps
[06:31] <p_quarles> why are they both installed?
[06:31] <szrhawaii> im trying to get rid of 9 i think all i need to do is uninstall the nonfree-flash right
[06:31] <wt> if you have two plugins servicing flash, they probably would conflict
[06:32] <szrhawaii> yeah i turned one off i realized that after
[06:32] <wt> flashplugin-nonfree, I think
[06:32] <p_quarles> sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[06:32] <szrhawaii> so if i have the flas 10 plugin i dont need that one right
[06:32] <wt> p_quarles: you could also upgrade to Intrepid, It has flash 10 :)
[06:32] <szrhawaii> its gone already
[06:33] <szrhawaii> nah i didnt like it cause of the issue i have with manipulation of the system
[06:33] <szrhawaii> so i rather upgrade this one plus it runs faster too'
[06:33] <szrhawaii> than the intrepid
[06:47] <Cannoli> hey just to make sure. to isntall from a package, i extract the contents and type "./configure" then "make" then "make install" and thats it right?
[06:48] <crimsun> Cannoli: if by "package" you meant "an Ubuntu binary package", then no. just double-click the package, or use dpkg -i
[06:49] <Cannoli> sorry i meant a .tar.bz2 file
[06:49] <vge> Cannoli: if it's a tar paggage and include a configure file and the readme suggest you to do so, then do it
[06:49] <crimsun> Cannoli: if by "source tar.gz/tar.bz2", then you should first check that the package isn't already in the Ubuntu repository. then, if it is not, you should proceed with compiling.
[06:50] <vge> but ye, check first that it's not included in the repos :)
[06:51] <Cannoli> alright. thanks alot
[06:57] <jn20> hey, does anyone here us INDI in kubuntu 8.10?
[06:57] <jn20> or Kstars
[06:58] <jn20> I think I have just encountered a bug
[06:59] <jn20> the bug should be really easy to replicate...
[07:03] <jn20> start up kstars, and choose the menu with the telescope wizard, INDI control etc... Choose "unit handling... sry don't know the english name... option nr. 3" select a telescope and chose run service... KStars chrashes...
[07:05] <jn20> It appears to be some sort of INDI related problem... some server that won't start... does anyone have any ideas?
[07:16] <shreedhar> #dhqifx
[07:17] <RandyCalifornia> Hello!
[07:17] <RandyCalifornia> :D
[08:14] <ockonal> Hi allll
[08:14] <ockonal> Can u help me with some trouble?
[08:14] <ockonal> i can't build nvidia-kernel during driver installation
[08:24] <Mamarok> morning
[08:26] <szrhawaii> anyone know a page of a list of wireless files i would need so i can verify i have all the files to run this program since i upgraded the knetwork
[08:26] <szrhawaii> to the newer one
[08:41]  * Mamarok would like to have a 4.2 package of powerdevil
[08:58] <Mamarok> ActionParsnip1: morning :)
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[08:59] <minus18_pundit> is it possible to use two dial-up connections at the same time?
[09:00] <ActionParsnip1> minus18_pundit: id imagine so
[09:01] <minus18_pundit> i'm talking of using two mobile dialup connections at the same time
[09:01] <minus18_pundit> if possible will it increase my internet speed?
[09:01] <ActionParsnip1> you could specify ip ranges to get from each line
[09:02] <ActionParsnip1> yes you will use both bandwidths
[09:02] <minus18_pundit> how can i use one for download and other for browsing?
[09:04] <ActionParsnip1> minus18_pundit: i dont think you can specify it that far, you need to add route rules so traffic goes down either link
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> based on ip is usual
[09:05] <minus18_pundit> well, i shall give a try
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> minus18_pundit: try: man route
[09:06] <Cannoli> is it possible to boot lilo from grub?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> Cannoli: no, lilo is an alternative to grub
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> both are boot loaders
[09:07] <Cannoli> ok but what if grub is on a seperrate partition from lilo?
[09:08] <ActionParsnip1> Cannoli: then you set your bios to boot the drive using lilo
[09:09] <Cannoli> ok but isnt it possible that i can make a menu entry in grub so that it loads up lilo from another partition?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip1> Cannoli: what would be the point, just add the booting options you have in lilo to the grub boot
[09:10] <Cannoli> oh i was just wondering if it is possiible
[09:11] <ActionParsnip1> i cant see why you'd wanna, it's kinda pointless booting a bootloader to load another boot loader
[09:11] <Cannoli> well yea but i was just wondering if u can
[09:11] <ActionParsnip1> i'm sure you could
[09:12] <ActionParsnip1> its an OS after all
[09:12] <Cannoli> i kinda wanna try it to see if i can XD
[09:12] <ActionParsnip1> Cannoli: sounds like a challenge
[09:12] <ActionParsnip1> Cannoli: if you ask in #gentoo they may be able to help
[09:12] <Cannoli> ok cool thank you
[09:18] <Cannoli> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/grub-and-lilo-chainloading-620883/
[09:18] <Cannoli> check that out there ActionParsnip1
[09:18] <Cannoli> they are talking abt something called chainloading
[09:20] <ActionParsnip1> chainloading as far as i am aware is how you make windows boot in dual boot systems
[09:32] <khaije1> anyone knowif there is a relationship between enlightenment and fltk ?
[09:33] <Mamarok> khaije1: not AFAIK
[09:34] <khaije1> mkay, i think some of the naming gave me the wrong idea
[09:49] <Kozeris>  My friend has problem: yesterday has kubuntu installing on slave hdd while master was xp and then smthng  messed with GRUB. He got grub error 25. Today we tried to disconnect xp and install master linux , and we got errorDISK BOOT FAILURE-Insert system disk and press enter. So whe connected Only XP ( removed ubuntu hdd) : all loading ok, then we connected additionaly slave ubuntu hdd,
[09:49] <Kozeris>  its 4 times slower loada, but hdtune shows ok 50mbs both
[09:49] <Kozeris> and then if only linux hdd it loads veyr long GRUB, and then grub gives mys hown error
[09:49] <bazhang> !grub
[09:49] <bazhang> check the first link Kozeris
[09:51] <Kozeris> ok i am reading
[09:58] <stmartin> Can somebody tell me how to put background color of the text of the icons.
[10:04] <Kozeris> bazhang: btw before we installed ubuntu, we had ntfs
[10:05] <Kozeris> so it was ntfs[xp] + ntfs[slave,data]
[10:05] <Kozeris> and then winxp loades slow too
[10:05] <Kozeris> what can be problem
[10:05] <Kozeris> its like something with that data which is now ubuntu
[10:05] <Kozeris> \j harddisk
[10:05] <Kozeris> ;D
[10:06] <Kozeris> any?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip1> bazhang: he's pasting identically in #ubuntu too
[10:10] <Kozeris> what's problem :(
[10:10] <Kozeris> just i need problem, so i asking
[10:10] <bazhang> Kozeris, use pastebin!
[10:10] <Kozeris> okok
[10:11] <bazhang> !paste | Kozeris
[10:11] <bazhang> Kozeris, dont crosspost to two channels
[10:12] <Kozeris> ok sorry, i'm writing situation in pastebin, i will write here in few mins, sorry for flood
[10:13] <bazhang> thanks
[10:28] <Guest30096> is there anywhere to use the adept application from the kubunt 7.10 on 8.10
[10:31] <Lou_> Hello, I am actually Lou's son, not Lou himself. I am still a newbie in Kubuntu and Linux. I am using Kubuntu 8.04.1. I messed up my computer and I am hoping to find help here.
[10:31] <Lou_> The problem is:
[10:31] <Lou_> When I start my computer it boots fine, Kubuntu starts loading, and then about 1/4 of the way through the loading process it gives this message:
[10:31] <Lou_> init: Unable to execute “/bin/sh” for rc-default: Permission denied
[10:31] <Lou_> init: rc-default main process (4313) terminated with status 255
[10:32] <ActionParsnip1> Guest30096: i dont believe so
[10:32] <Lou_> Here is what I did that messed it up:
[10:32] <Lou_> 2 days ago somehow I missed up my computer's USB flashdrive-detecting settings. I think it happened because I tried to get my wireless Internet connection working, but I don't know for sure what I did that could have missed up the USB part of my system.
[10:32] <Lou_> So, I checked the Ubuntu forms and I found this command:
[10:32] <Lou_> ls -l /dev/sd*
[10:32] <Lou_> which showed me that my computer was detecting the flashdrive, but just not mounting it (or, at least, so I thought).
[10:32] <ActionParsnip1> Lou_: can you give us the output of ls -la /bin/sh
[10:32] <Lou_> Now here is where the real problem came in:
[10:32] <Lou_> In an attempt to fix my USB, I went to “System Settings -> Advanced -> Disk & File Systems -> New” and I put “/dev/sdb1” for the device and “media:/” for the mount point and I checked the box to “Enable at startup.” Then I clicked “New” again and put “/dev/sdb” for the device and “media:/” for the mount point (at that time I didn't realize that you're not supposed to mount more than one thing on the same mount point) and I checked
[10:32] <Lou_> the box to “Enable at startup,” but the system said that “media:/” was already in use so I just left the Mount Point field blank and it mounted it as “/”. That is what my hard-drive (“/dev/sda1”, I believe) is mounted as (“/”). Again, when I boot up my computer it says:
[10:32] <Lou_> init: Unable to execute “/bin/sh” for rc-default: Permission denied
[10:32] <Lou_> init: rc-default main process (4313) terminated with status 255
[10:32] <Lou_> how do I do that?
[10:33] <Lou_> I think that /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb are trying to mount on the same mount point and that is what is causing the problem. I just don't know how to fix it. Please help if you can.
[10:33] <ActionParsnip1> Lou_: its a terminal command
[10:33] <Guest30096> I am trying to install the extra package of latex, but the new adept doesnt how me anything with latex packages..
[10:33] <ActionParsnip1> Lou_: you cant mount sdb
[10:34] <Lou_> ok. I'll be right back
[10:34] <ActionParsnip1> Lou_: ahh i see what you've done, youve mounted some usb thing as /
[10:34] <Lou_> yes
[10:34] <ActionParsnip1> Lou_: no need: sudo mount -a will sort you
[10:35] <ActionParsnip1> Lou_: lil tip, DONT mount to /media, mount to a folder WITHIN media
[10:35] <Lou_> Ok. Thank you. =o)
[10:35] <ActionParsnip1> Lou_: sudo mkdir /media/win or /media/wobble
[10:35] <ActionParsnip1> Lou_: then mount to those
[10:36] <Lou_> So I just type:  sudo mount -a ?
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> Lou_: thats why the default mount for cdrom is /media/cdrom0
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> Lou_: yep in a terminal
[10:36] <Lou_> oh.
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> i personally have /media/iso for my iso mountings
[10:37] <Lou_> How do I get into the terminal without loading Kubuntu?
[10:38] <Guest30096> actionparsnip1: is there anywhere to see all the packages containing a specific word in the description??
[10:38] <ActionParsnip1> Guest30096: dpkg -l | grep <something>
[10:38] <Guest30096> thanks _)
[10:38] <ActionParsnip1> Lou_: so you get no boot at all?
[10:39] <kev_> hello?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip1> kev_: hi
[10:39] <kev_> im new to this
[10:40] <Lou_> ActionParsnip : The Kubuntu loading bar goes about 1/4 the way to the right, and then I get that error message I posted
[10:40] <kev_> wot is this program?
[10:40] <kev_> i know what ubuntu is thou
[10:41] <ActionParsnip1> Lou_: ok you will need to boot to root console (esc at boot then select recovery mode for your kernel)
[10:41] <ActionParsnip1> Lou_: then edit /etc/fstab to reflect your partitions
[10:41] <ActionParsnip1> kev_: this is an irc channel on irc.freenode.net
[10:42] <ActionParsnip1> kev_: the proram you are using to access it could vary wildly
[10:42] <kev_> oh ok, i just randomly click this
[10:42] <tictric> kev_: you are using a program called Konversation :)
[10:42] <kev_> nice
[10:43] <kev_> im only learning ubuntu
[10:43] <ActionParsnip1> kev_: we all learn it some one day
[10:43] <kev_> i downloaded ubuntu ultimate edition coz i had problems in stalling xp
[10:43] <tictric> kev_: then you might go to #kubuntu or #ubuntu to learn more
[10:43] <kev_> yea i got a mate that reckons every1 should use ubuntu
[10:43] <tictric> oh, we are in #kubuntu :)
[10:44] <bazhang> !ultimate | kev_
[10:44] <kev_> its 2.0 version aswell
[10:44] <ActionParsnip1> kev_: he's wrong
[10:44] <bazhang> kev_, get the real deal
[10:44] <kev_> lol
[10:44] <ActionParsnip1> kev_: ubuntu isnt for everyone, just like windows isnt for everyone
[10:44] <bazhang> accept no substitutes
[10:44] <bazhang> not kidding
[10:44] <kev_> but this looks buzzy
[10:44] <Kozeris> http://www.paste.lt/paste/001810b4389f1cc545f7c2e73d3a8b53
[10:44] <bazhang> kev_, its not supported in #ubuntu / #kubuntu channels
[10:44] <kev_> i like how i can rotate the screen like a cube, lol
[10:45] <ActionParsnip1> kev_: you need to install video drivers and then compiz-fusion
[10:45] <kev_> im still lost, lol
[10:45] <bazhang> kev_, you using ultimate?
[10:45] <kev_> ok ill b straight up, im a 23 male that drinks alot and smokes and does cannabis, lol
[10:45] <kev_> yea
[10:45] <ActionParsnip1> kev_: same here except im 28
[10:45] <kev_> ultimate edition 2.0
[10:46] <kev_> is ur name astra?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip1> kev_: ultimate isnt supported here
[10:46] <bazhang> kev_, that is offtopic ; and ultimate is NOT supported
[10:46] <kev_> i get that its not supported her
[10:46] <kev_> *here
[10:46] <ActionParsnip1> kev_: its not an official release
[10:46] <kev_> i was just sayin what i am using
[10:46] <bazhang> chat in #kubuntu-offtopic kev_
[10:46] <Lou_> ActionParsnip1 : I tried the "esc at boot" thing, but it won't let me select recovery. In fact, it won't let me select anything. I tried the arrowkeys and the keypad and tab, nothing...
[10:46] <Kozeris> fixed : http://www.paste.lt/paste/50109b59b084da5720169d30e330bd24
[10:47] <tictric> Kozeris: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[10:47] <kev_> im sooo lost
[10:47] <ActionParsnip1> kev_: you need to run lspci and that will tel you your video card, you can websearch from there but #kubuntu-offtopic is where ultimate is supported. if you want support, install the real ubuntu or kubuntu
[10:47] <Kozeris> tictric, thank you, im reading it now
[10:47] <kev_> so what do u mean the real ubuntu?
[10:48] <bazhang> kev_, ultimate support channels for ultimate support; these channels for real support
[10:48] <kev_> ffs?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip1> kev_: what bazhang said
[10:48] <kev_> im new and i dnt kno wot im doin i get that its not supported
[10:48] <bazhang> kev_, this is not the chat channel
[10:48] <ActionParsnip1> kev_: join #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:49] <kev_> im on it now
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> then thats where folks will help you
[10:50] <wesley> I like to know about the status from the intel gma bug
[10:50] <preston> anyone feel like talking for a sec about kde 4 and a couple monor issues
[10:51] <wesley> yeah one is caused by Kubuntu and thats the intel gma bug
[10:52] <kev_> hello?
[10:52] <preston> hey
[10:52] <kev_> im new
[10:54] <kev_> well thx guys for the support
[10:54] <kev_> NOT!
[10:54] <bazhang> kev_, ??
[10:55] <kev_> i get told 2 goto #kubuntu-offtopic so i go there n no1 talks
[10:55] <bazhang> http://kubuntu.org
[10:55] <bazhang> download there
[10:56] <kev_> download what?
[10:56] <bazhang> kubuntu
[10:56] <kev_> like im not just goin 2 download the 1st thing u tell me without me knowing
[10:56] <bazhang> kev_, this is a support channel for that OS
[10:57] <kev_> how well does it show up on Links 2, lol
[10:57] <kev_> thats the only browser dat works
[10:58] <mellhen> i would like to integrate my kde4.1.85 (intrepid) better. eg localhost isnt accessable any ideas?
[11:11] <Lou_> bazhang, How can I use the command line without loading Kubuntu?
[11:15] <preston> anyone else get weird artifacts when minimizing or maximizing windows
[11:16] <tictric> preston: most probably in kde4
[11:16] <preston> tictricyeah sorry im using 8.10
[11:21] <Lou_> Would anyone here happen to know how to get to a command line or terminal BEFORE/WITHOUT loading Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[11:22] <wesley> preston seems to be an intel gma bug in kubuntu
[11:24] <wesley> i think its shamefull that such a bug is still in a stable release
[11:24] <Lou_> Please help. http://paste.ubuntu.com/88439/
[11:25] <theseinfeld> anybody working on bug 305565
[11:25] <theseinfeld> bug #305565
[11:25] <theseinfeld> !bug 305565
[11:25] <theseinfeld>  Launchpad bug 305565 in gpgme1.0 "kleopatra complains that gpgme should be compiled with gpgconf support" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/305565
[11:27] <preston> check this out wesley
[11:27] <preston> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170462
[11:27] <preston> that is the bug
[11:39] <manux> holas
[11:40] <bazhang> !es
[11:43] <Guest30096> holas
[11:43] <Guest30096> !de
[11:51] <khaije1> so why don't we see e17 in ubuntu?
[11:51] <jpds> !e17
[11:51] <jpds> Hmm.
[11:57] <Guest30096> I got problem with my notebook and headphone, if I plug in the cable, the notebook speakers still are working
[11:57] <Guest30096> I have try the using the kubuntu mixer but doesnt work..
[12:06] <liam> i need help please
[12:07] <liam> my front usb ports dont work
[12:16] <Novita> Any good alternative for the Music player that comes in KDE i dont like the Jukebox Aproach.
[12:16] <ilham> novita: amarok
[12:17] <Novita> Yes but that's jukebox kinda like ;-)
[12:17] <piiile> xmms?
[12:17] <piiile> like winamp
[12:17] <piiile> or audacious
[12:17] <ilham> novita: what you expect?
[12:17] <piiile> that doent't come with KDE though
[12:18] <Novita> Oke piiile i will check that out, ilham winamp like is good for me. i just looking for an easy to use Mp3 player without too many bells and wistles
[12:19] <piiile> you can use the console command "play" ;)
[12:19] <piiile> play foo.mp3
[12:19] <Novita> piiile: hehe yeah thats a little too less tho haha. I think audacious will do good :P
[12:21] <Novita> tnx fellas ;-)
[12:22] <piiile> you're welcome...
[12:23] <jussi01> !players
[12:26] <vyson> when i use the sudo -i command i get the error /bin/sh: /bin/sh: cannot execute binary file error what does trhat mean?
[12:27] <piiile> !players
[12:27] <piiile> what does that mean?
[12:36] <Lynx_> Hey! I would like to use two mointors with my ATI card, open source driver. What is the best way to do that? I want one connected via DVI, one via VGA.
[12:42] <elwood> !kde-neon
[12:43] <elwood> !kde-nightly
[12:43] <elwood> ok
[12:43] <jussi01> !neon | elwood
[12:43] <Mamarok> !neon | elwood
[12:43] <jussi01> hehe
[12:43] <Mamarok> :)
[12:43] <elwood> i remember of it :) thanks jussi01
[12:45] <newfeats> hi... anyone know the settings for streaming music in Amarok?
[12:45] <Novita> Hey guys sorry to bother you again. But is there any way to improve my desktop graphics. I have a Nvidia GeForce 8600 GTS 512MB but moving windows scaling them is realy buggy.
[12:46] <newfeats> Novita: you should try enabling the Video card drivers... a reboot would be needed.
[12:46] <Novita> I enables Restricted Nvidia Drivers 177 newfeats and rebooted after
[12:47] <newfeats> what version of kubuntu?  i'm using hardy.  works ok.
[12:47] <Novita> 8.10 newfeats
[12:47] <Novita> with Kde 4.1
[12:48] <dr_willis> kde4 is still very much a work in progress in some areas its rough.
[12:48] <dr_willis> It has gotten better over the last few updates. :)
[12:48] <Novita> yeah i notice it
[12:48] <guiterb> 有中国人么？
[12:48] <dr_willis> 4.2.??? is in the backports - it may work better for you
[12:48] <guiterb> hello
[12:49] <dr_willis> hmm?
[12:49] <Novita> I can live with the bugs but the graphic glitches is realy enoying for me specialy because i need a smooth desktop without the glitches sinds i have epilepsie
[12:49] <elwood> dr_willis: so to have de 4.2 i don't need neon-project but just intrepid backport?
[12:49] <newfeats> Novita: that's normal.  it is kinda... slow.
[12:49] <dr_willis> Novita,  i wouls disable all non-needed e3yecandy then.
[12:49] <guiterb> elwood
[12:50] <hell_> where can i see my processor speed ?
[12:50] <elwood> hell_: all information are in /proc/cpuinfo
[12:50] <hell_> thx a lot
[12:50] <Novita> I will try to fetch 4.2 from backports and if it does not improve i will go back to 8.04 for a wile
[12:50] <dr_willis> elwood,  im not sure what version backports is. theres also the ppa versions that may be newer.. i dont try to keep up to date with kde4
[12:51] <randomcrash> how can  i change my resolution settings on kubuntu?
[12:51] <elwood> randomcrash: k menu systemsettings desktop
[12:51] <hell_> in the system configuration menu
[12:52] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[12:52] <randomcrash> thanx
[12:52] <The-Compiler> How is the app called which gets executed when you press Alt + F2 in KDE4?
[12:52] <hell_> hi ActionParsnip1
[12:52] <hell_> execute a command?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip1> The-Compiler: krunner?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip1> !info krunner
[12:53] <dr_willis> alt-f2 is the 'run command' Im not sure if its a seperate command or bulit into kde4
[12:53] <The-Compiler> ActionParsnip1: saw it, thx
[12:53] <dr_willis> there are alternatives if you want to call a similer thing
[12:55] <anipy> on 8.10 my system freezes suddenly (every hour or so). usually it is just not responding to keyboard or mouse button events any more. in rare cases i can see the mouse cursor moving, but no response on clicks. where can i start looking what is possibly causing this behavior? (this problems never occured with earlier versions of kubuntu on this hardware)
[12:56] <ActionParsnip1> anipy: id run an fsck and a ram check for starters
[12:56] <elwood> anipy: i have the same problem. but not every hour
[12:56] <hell_> anipy check the log
[12:56] <anipy> elwood: well, if not doing much with it, it keeps running for few hours
[12:56] <hell_> in system logs viewer
[12:59] <lothar_> I have a question.I want use nvram and I have got installed but modprobe can't find the modul
[13:00] <R1N0X> Buenas tardes
[13:01] <newfeats> yeah might as well.
[13:01] <dr_willis> ive heard of people trying to play with nvram, but never heard what they try to do with it. :)
[13:02] <dr_willis> what did you install to use nvram anyway?
[13:02] <elwood> dr_willis: to conquer universe
[13:02] <gauz> hi all
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> dr_willis: its bios boot errors and hardware errors
[13:02] <gauz> i have installed ubuntu yesterday
[13:02] <Lynx_> How do I enable file sharing via samba? I installed samba, but don't know where to set it up. The 'configue file sharing' button in the file properties via Dolphin does nothing...
[13:02] <gauz> none of the video and audio embedded files work on firefox
[13:02] <dr_willis> !samba
[13:02] <gauz> they just throw up a blank screen
[13:03] <ActionParsnip1> dr_willis: it can get really full sometimes and refuse to power the system on, so take the cmos battery out of the system and all power inputs and let the system drain for half an hour or so, then put it all back in
[13:03] <gauz> ny person aware of this problem?
[13:03] <gauz> and its possible solution?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip1> gauz: do you mean flash ones or avi/mpeg ones?
[13:03] <gauz> flash
[13:03] <dr_willis> Lynx_,  thers several ways to 'share' stuff.. depends on what you want to do. I normally install the samba service, then edit the /etc/samba/smb.conf to the right workgroup. and set up where the users HOMES are shared. Then give the users i want to have access. samba passwords with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME'
[13:03] <lothar_> dr_willis:I installed nvram by Synaptic
[13:03] <gauz> especially ...youtube embedded stuff
[13:03] <ActionParsnip1> !flash | gauz
[13:03] <dr_willis> !info nvram
[13:04] <ActionParsnip1> dr_willis: its a piece of hardware on the motherboard
[13:04] <ActionParsnip1> dr_willis: watch your pc boot, itll say "checking nvram"
[13:04] <dr_willis> lothar_,  it may be the module was built into the kernel, and you installed some extra tools.
[13:04] <gauz> kk
[13:04] <gauz> i am working on it
[13:04] <gauz> brb
[13:04] <Lynx_> dr_willis: ok, thanks. I just thought there would be a way do do it via the KDE system settings.
[13:04] <dr_willis> Lynx_,  proberly is.. but by the time i would look in the menus.. id allready have the job done.. :)
[13:05] <dr_willis> of course ive been doing it this way Lynx_  for 10+ years.. :P
[13:05] <dr_willis> if you are learning samba for the first time - the samba-doc package has some good books on the topic.
[13:05] <dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[13:05] <lothar_> The answer was event not found
[13:06] <edi_99> Hi guys does anyone know how to make creox work?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip1> Lynx_: I can give you MY smb.conf, its simple to setup
[13:06] <dr_willis>  Samba has some really really neat tricks it can do. :)
[13:07] <Lynx_> ActionParsnip1: thanks, I'll try it on my own first, I bet I'll learn stuff ;)
[13:07] <dr_willis> the 'using samba' book in that samba-doc package is very good reading..
[13:07] <Lynx_> Another question: Do I still have to do lots of Xorg.conf editing to get a dual monitor setup to run?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> Lynx_: if you look at the existing file it tells you a lot
[13:07] <dr_willis> Lynx_,  what video card?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip1> !dualhead | Lynx_
[13:08] <chukwuma> hello
[13:08] <Lynx_> dr_willis: an older ATI card, open source driver
[13:08] <dr_willis> Lynx_,  that may or may not be possible. Never tried it with ati. Just nvidia
[13:08] <dr_willis> Its easy with nvidia :)
[13:08] <ActionParsnip1> dr_willis: with xorg.conf smarts its easy with any card ;)
[13:09] <ActionParsnip1> Lynx_: i'd work on one thing at a time dude
[13:09] <dr_willis> if the ati driver supports it...
[13:09] <Lynx_> so in short, it's complicated ;)
[13:09] <ActionParsnip1> Lynx_: it can be
[13:09] <dr_willis> Now with 2+ seperate video cards.. it can get complex  :)
[13:10] <ActionParsnip1> well as long as they sing together, its not too complex
[13:10] <Lynx_> Actually samba and the dual montior thing are related ;). My graphics card seems to be broken, so I can either watch videos on the second monitor, or i have to use my windows box and have to get the files from the linux one...
[13:12] <ActionParsnip1> Lynx_: id get the dual head up first then
[13:12] <ActionParsnip1> dr_willis: whats complex but fun is making 2 pcs out of one system with 2 monitors + 2 mice + 2 keyboards
[13:13] <edi_99> hi, where can I find [Applications -> Audio & Video] from 8.04 in 8.10?
[13:13] <Lynx_> ActionParsnip1: I could never get the binary ATI driver to work, and I got so frustrated with that stuff I'd rather not start again trying to do anything with video again ;(
[13:13] <ActionParsnip1> edi_99: its multimedia
[13:13] <ActionParsnip1> !ati } Lynx_
[13:14] <ActionParsnip1> !ati | Lynx_
[13:14] <Lynx_> ActionParsnip1: I never want to see that page again, at least for a while
[13:14] <ActionParsnip1> Lynx_: theres the xserver-xorg-ati driver
[13:15] <ActionParsnip1> Lynx_: its open source
[13:15] <Lynx_> ActionParsnip1: thats what I'm using
[13:33] <mooperd> Hi, How do I share the internet connection on my laptop with a PC connected to the eth port?
[13:34] <dr_willis> !ics
[13:34] <mooperd> Im using 7.04 ( I think)
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> mooperd: lsb_release -a will tell you
[13:42] <runpain2> God Day All
[13:44] <mooperd> ActionParsnip1: tell me what?
[13:44] <runpain2>  tried to boot and only get to the tty cause some thing about kdm and gdm wont load how do i fix it
[13:44] <mooperd> ActionParsnip1: ah, version
[13:44] <ActionParsnip1> mooperd: what release of ubuntu you are using
[13:45] <mooperd> How do I persuade knetwork manager to keep the wired connection open when I turn on the wifi
[13:45] <ActionParsnip1> mooperd: if you are sharing connection i'd make the internal interface static ip
[13:46] <mooperd> I did allready
[13:46] <mooperd> sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.8.1
[13:46] <mooperd> $ sudo ifup eth0
[13:46] <mooperd> Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.
[13:48] <runpain2> could i reinstall and kept all the packages i installed before
[13:48] <ActionParsnip1> mooperd: i'd read the !ics thing above
[13:48] <ActionParsnip1> !clone | runpain2
[13:49] <gauz> whois gauz
[13:51] <gauz> i tried to reinstall the flash driver from adobe
[13:51] <gauz> no success
[13:51] <gauz> does gnash gives probs
[13:51] <gauz> ?
[13:52] <ActionParsnip1> !flash | gauz
[13:53] <ActionParsnip1> gauz: you on 64bit or 32bit?
[13:53] <gauz> 32 bit
[13:53] <ActionParsnip1> sudo ap-get update; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[13:53] <gauz> 2 min
[13:54] <gauz> if i want to paste the output ..wat shud i do???
[13:54] <gauz> i dnt want to flood the channel
[13:56] <ActionParsnip1> !pastebin | gauz
[13:56] <gauz> okk
[13:57] <gauz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88520/
[13:57] <gauz> plz check the output
[13:57] <gauz> the file was already up-to-date
[13:58] <ActionParsnip1> gauz: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[13:59] <gauz> installed
[13:59] <gauz> let me try a youtube vid
[14:00] <gauz> the vid doesnt load still
[14:00] <gauz> the placeholder shows blank
[14:00] <gauz> jst whiteness!
[14:02] <gauz> flash pludin was installed properly though
[14:02] <gauz> i even tried to disable and enable the gnash plugin
[14:02] <gauz> of firefox
[14:02] <ActionParsnip1> gauz: let me search my /
[14:03] <gauz> i feel something is wrong in that
[14:04] <ActionParsnip1> gauz: mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins; cd ~/.mozilla/plugins; ln -s /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so; killall firefox; firefox &
[14:04] <xp-killer> in ktorent how do u put ta download to start after one hadve finish?
[14:04] <ActionParsnip1> xp-killer: they usually run concurently
[14:05] <JontheEchidna> xp-killer: I think there is a setting somewhere in the configuration dialog thta can limit the amount of downloads to 1
[14:05] <gauz> i did as suggested
[14:05] <xp-killer> JontheEchidna:  ive been looking n trying but nothing
[14:05] <guo> hehe
[14:05] <gauz> wait
[14:05] <gauz> pasting the output
[14:06] <gauz> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/88526/
[14:06] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[14:06] <xp-killer> i found it i tink
[14:07] <ActionParsnip1> gauz: thats fine, its firefox dying
[14:07] <gauz> it died for a while
[14:07] <gauz> and was restarted
[14:07] <gauz> and ..i again tried to view a video
[14:07] <BluesKaj> upgrade
[14:07] <gauz> to no avail
[14:07] <ActionParsnip1> gauz: you also wanna uninstall gnash or its gonna get confused
[14:07] <gauz> yeah
[14:07] <gauz> i want to unistall
[14:07] <ActionParsnip1> gauz: you cant have 2 flash plugins installed or tey fight
[14:07] <gauz> any idea how to uninstall gnash extension?
[14:08] <ActionParsnip1> gauz: sudo apt-get --purge remove gtk-gnash
[14:08] <COMMODORE64> HERE YOU ARE ActionParsnip1!
[14:08] <gauz> theres only the option to disable or enable trough firefox
[14:08] <gauz> ok
[14:08] <BluesKaj> there's a flashpugin-nonfree upgrade available today if you do a sudo apt-get update
[14:08] <gauz> working on it
[14:08] <ActionParsnip1> COMMODORE64: i guess so
[14:08] <COMMODORE64> Been trying to find a help, and one staff isn't being very helpful wiht my wlan0 problem.
[14:09] <COMMODORE64> DaSkreech, i'm suspecting something wrong with ndiswrapper. http://paste.ubuntu.com/88280/"v
[14:09] <COMMODORE64> well. clicky the linky please.
[14:09] <ActionParsnip1> COMMODORE64: try lshw -C network
[14:09] <BluesKaj> gauz, check adeptnotifier,if you have it activated, for updates to flashplugin-nonfree
[14:10] <COMMODORE64> what does it do, action?
[14:10] <BluesKaj> that shoulf solve your video prob on FF
[14:10] <ActionParsnip1> COMMODORE64: lists all network hardware
[14:10] <COMMODORE64> will do that soon
[14:10] <ActionParsnip1> BluesKaj: he's got gnash installed which will fight with it, he needs that off first
[14:10] <BluesKaj> uhoh
[14:10] <ActionParsnip1> COMMODORE64: it will also say if it has a driver installed for it
[14:12] <runpain2> ActionParsnip1,what i mean is because i screwed up my KDM or GDM loading up if i reinstalled on this machine
[14:13] <ActionParsnip1> runpain2: can be a good thing as a newb. I broke my installs loads playing with stuff
[14:14] <COMMODORE64> i used ndiswrapper -l and it listed my driver there..
[14:14] <cumulus007> hi, I'm trying to install koffice 2, but dpkg says this:
[14:15] <ActionParsnip1> cumulus007: if itsmore that 2 lines, use pastebin
[14:15] <cumulus007> trying to overwrite /usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/actions/object-ungroup.png, which is already in kde-icons-oxygen
[14:15] <runpain2> i tried changing the file for the display manager in the .x11 configuration ththats what messed it up
[14:15] <cumulus007> so I'm trying to edit the deb package, but I don't know how
[14:15] <runpain2> so i boot live cd and re did it
[14:15] <runpain2> amd it works
[14:16] <runpain2> but i want to change the from gdm to kdm how i do that
[14:17] <cumulus007> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[14:21] <Lynx_> ActionParsnip1: Can I see your samba.conf :). I thing I have everything correct, but can't connect to the share from windows...
[14:22] <Lynx_> s/thing/think/
[14:23] <ActionParsnip1> Lynx_: np bro
[14:23] <ActionParsnip1> Lynx_: http://pastebin.com/f13322aba
[14:24] <ActionParsnip1> Lynx_: you only need to read the bottom 20 lines or so
[14:24] <cuznt> hmmmm my klauncher is not working
[14:24] <ActionParsnip1> Lynx_: the thing in the brackets is the share name, the rest is self explanatory
[14:24] <cuznt> well it 1/2 is
[14:25] <adnanbildi> çözünürlüğü ayarlamak için system settings ten display e girince donuyor neden acaba
[14:27] <runpain2> got it fix ActionParsnip1
[14:27] <runpain2> !kdm to gdm
[14:27] <runpain2> !kdm
[14:28] <ActionParsnip1> !info kdm
[14:28] <runpain2> !info kdm to gdm
[14:28] <Lynx_> ActionParsnip1: hmm, still not working, I think it must be something else, smbclient -L Till-desktop on the linux box works
[14:28] <Lynx_> wher Till-desktop is the linux machine
[14:29] <runpain2> !info change kdm to gdm
[14:29] <Lynx_> ActionParsnip1: oh well, have to got, thanks for the help1
[14:29] <Pici> runpain2: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[14:30] <ActionParsnip1> Lynx_: dont forget sudo smbpasswd <your username>
[14:30] <ActionParsnip1> Lynx_: and use the same password
[14:31] <runpain2> ok ok thanks Pici
[14:31] <Lynx_> ActionParsnip1: yeah, I did that
[14:38] <byteme_> I have not been getting update notifications for about 3 weeks now
[14:38] <byteme_> I have 8.04...... is that why?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip1> hardy is still supported
[14:39] <ActionParsnip1> byteme_: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:39] <Koordin> i have a problem with apt-get when i try to upgrade : http://rafb.net/p/pMqSCK67.html
[14:39] <Koordin> hi
[14:40] <ActionParsnip1> Koordin: sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.1.85-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1_i386.deb; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get update
[14:43] <Koordin> ActionParsnip1: same problem
[14:43] <ActionParsnip1> Koordin: exactly the same?
[14:43] <Koordin> ActionParsnip1: i think so yes
[14:45] <ActionParsnip1> oh ive seen something like this when someone was upgrading to kde 4.2
[14:45] <ActionParsnip1> Koordin: try: sudo mv /usr/lib/kconf_update_bin/plasma-add-shortcut-to-menu /usr/lib/kconf_update_bin/plasma-add-shortcut-to-menu_old
[14:45] <wright> this is interesting...
[14:45] <Koordin> but i'm already on kde 4.2, i was just doing to upgrade of every day ; ok i'll try
[14:46] <byteme_> thanks!! Koordin
[14:46] <ActionParsnip1> Koordin: if its no good, mv it back
[14:47] <Koordin> there is no such file
[14:47] <ActionParsnip1> Koordin: well I copied that from your pastebin
[14:47] <ActionParsnip1> Koordin: i think theres some force options you can use
[14:47] <Koordin> yes i see that 'trying to overwrite'
[14:49] <Koordin> ls -a /usr/lib/kconf_update_bin/ | grep plasma : this as no output
[14:49] <Koordin> byteme_:  ?
[14:52] <Koordin> i'll come back
[14:53] <guidopugliese> quali codec posso scaricare?
[14:53] <Pici> !it | guidopugliese
[14:53] <ActionParsnip1> sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.1.85-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1_i386.deb
[14:53] <ActionParsnip1> Koordin: try that
[14:55] <Koordin-> does someone have another idea ?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip1> Koordin-: that will force the install of the funny deb
[14:58] <Koordin-> ActionParsnip1: that ? i was disconnected, can you resend me your command ?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip1> sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.1.85-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1_i386.deb
[14:59] <randagio> qualke italiano?
[14:59] <ActionParsnip1> i gotta split guys
[14:59] <Koordin-> thanks this worked
[14:59] <randagio> aiutoooooooooo
[15:00] <ActionParsnip1> Koordin-: after you run that, sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --force-yes upgrade
[15:00] <Koordin-> ok thanks
[15:00] <randagio> chi mi può aiutare?????
[15:01] <Pici> !it | randagio
[15:01] <bazhang> !it
[15:02] <randagio> grazie mille
[15:02] <randagio> volevo solo sapere come fare un flv to avi..
[15:12] <Bouib> hello
[15:18] <jarek> hello all ;]
[15:19] <owl_> i jsut got 8.10 installed got compiz up installed emerald but cant get my themes to take. what am i forgetting
[15:19] <Psi-Jack> Okay, WHY in the hell is "NetworkManager" replacing MY resolv.conf settings I put in?!
[15:28]  * BouibHeuWay vous inquietez po, c est po la fin du monde  !!!
[15:28]  * Bouib Attention MesDames et Messieurs, dans un instant, çà va commencer..... :))
[15:28] <Pici> !fr | Bouib
[15:30] <Bouib> i speak english too
[15:30] <Bouib> :))
[15:34] <COMMODORE64> !msg
[15:34] <COMMODORE64> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88567/
[15:35] <COMMODORE64> I was asked to run lshw -C network
[15:45] <ville-v> i just installed kubuntu, but sounds are not working, what can i do for it?
[15:48] <COMMODORE64> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88567/
[15:48] <COMMODORE64> I was asked to run lshw -C network
[15:48] <COMMODORE64> Any idea on bringing my wlan online?
[15:49] <Ahmuck> is there a kubuntu poster similar to ubuntu highway poster i could print and hang up?
[15:58] <COMMODORE64> Ahmuch should be.
[15:58] <Psi-Jack> Curious.
[15:58] <Psi-Jack> I installed Ubuntu 8.10, and then installed kubuntu-desktop, but NetworkManager stuff has stopped working proper.
[16:00] <COMMODORE64> Same here psi.
[16:00] <COMMODORE64> I had to grab latest ndiswrapper to get it working properly -_-
[16:01] <COMMODORE64> and i think you means Knetworkmanager.
[16:01] <cumulus007> why is the koffice-kde4 package broken?
[16:01] <Psi-Jack> Yes, it stopped working, both nm-applet, from Gnome, and knetworkmanager,  no longer properly utilizes NetworkManager.
[16:02] <cumulus007> it refuses to install
[16:03] <COMMODORE64> ah
[16:03] <COMMODORE64> Gnome
[16:03] <COMMODORE64> No can't help you there
[16:03] <COMMODORE64> ^^
[16:03] <COMMODORE64> cumulus007 you might want to reinstall it
[16:04] <Psi-Jack> Well, I don't use gnome., That's why I installed kubuntu-desktop. :p
[16:05] <COMMODORE64> Hmm.
[16:05] <COMMODORE64> Hold on
[16:05] <COMMODORE64> if you are using KDE, why are you using nm-applet?
[16:05] <Psi-Jack> I'm not.
[16:05] <COMMODORE64> .:11·01·58:. «Psi-Jack» Yes, it stopped working, both nm-applet, from Gnome, and knetworkmanager, no longer properly utilizes NetworkManager.
[16:05] <Psi-Jack> It USED to work, but it too, fails, like knetworkmanager fails.
[16:06] <COMMODORE64> Hmm.
[16:06] <COMMODORE64> well, i'm waiting for someone to take a look at my wlan problem ^^
[16:06] <Psi-Jack> Both fail to actually do anything besides tell me eth1 is active.
[16:23] <rafael_> hi
[16:24] <rafael_> somebody uses kurumin  NG
[16:27] <OxDeadC0de> hey so I killed a locked up xorg durring an adept update, it was installing packages when it crashed, afterwards apt-get etc told me to run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" to fix problems, so when I do that, i get "dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed." any idea how to debug this?
[16:29] <Psi-Jack> Okay.
[16:29] <Psi-Jack> Here's my problem now.
[16:29] <Psi-Jack> I got nm-applet to work, but I hate nm-applet, it's Gnome...
[16:29] <Psi-Jack> knetworkmanager is not working at all.
[16:31] <COMMODORE64> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88567/
[16:32] <COMMODORE64> I was asked to run lshw -C network
[16:32] <COMMODORE64> Any idea on bringing my wlan online?
[16:32] <Psi-Jack> I don't do wireless, myself.
[16:43] <stefanjrklb> hi
[16:44] <mahdi> hi
[16:44] <stefanjrklb> checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.2... no
[16:44] <stefanjrklb> *** The glib-config script installed by GLIB could not be found
[16:44] <stefanjrklb> *** If GLIB was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
[16:44] <stefanjrklb> *** your path, or set the GLIB_CONFIG environment variable to the
[16:44] <stefanjrklb> *** full path to glib-config.
[16:44] <Pici> !paste | stefanjrklb
[16:44] <stefanjrklb> what to do with this?
[16:45] <stefanjrklb> i install glib which i download :)
[16:45] <Pici> stefanjrklb: glib is part of the base system, its wise to not mess with the version that comes with Kubuntu.
[16:45] <stefanjrklb> ok i understand
[16:45] <Pici> stefanjrklb: What are you compiling and have you installed the build-essential package?
[16:46] <stefanjrklb> but i want to install xmms and i need it
[16:47] <Pici> stefanjrklb: xmms is no longer supported, I suggest that you not install it.  There are other media players that are similar, such as audacious.
[16:47] <stefanjrklb> ok I didin't know that :)
[16:47] <stefanjrklb> Thx Pici :)
[16:47] <Pici> !software > stefanjrklb
[16:50] <stefanjrklb> ok
[16:50] <stefanjrklb> I install audacious
[16:50] <stefanjrklb> but when I put my songs into playlist and when i press play
[16:50] <stefanjrklb> music is not playing :/
[16:51] <stefanjrklb> do you know what to do with this
[16:51] <genii> !codecs
[16:53] <stefanjrklb> ok
[16:53] <stefanjrklb> but which codecs i need to install ?
[16:54] <genii> stefanjrklb: What format is your music in?
[16:54] <stefanjrklb> mostly in mp3
[16:57] <moza> hello, i would really appreciate if somebody could give me a hint about what packages to intall/remove to downgrade from kde4 to kde3
[16:57] <genii> Apologies on lag, work needed me
[16:58] <thefish> anyone know if there are isues with the alpha-2 cd images for jaunty?
[16:59] <genii> stefanjrklb: Usually something like libxine1-ffmpeg   or  from the medibuntu repository: w32codecs
[16:59] <genii> thefish: Ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[16:59] <genii> moza: Are you in 8.04 or 8.10 ?
[17:00] <moza> i am in intrepid ibex, which should be (i'm looking right now)
[17:00] <genii> moza: In 8.10 there is currently no kde3 which to install
[17:00] <moza> :( ok
[17:01] <hell_> go back to 8.04
[17:01] <moza> that's really bad... but thanks for the info
[17:01] <genii> moza: There may later be a ppa for it, but currently no
[17:01] <hell_> moza i agry, i'm on 8.04 only for that
[17:01] <genii> moza: You're welcome
[17:01] <hell_> agree*
[17:01] <moza> what is a ppa?
[17:02] <bazhang> !ppa
[17:02] <moza> ok, thanks
[17:03] <bazhang> for Open Office 3 for example
[17:03]  * genii hands bazhang a coffee
[17:03] <bazhang> thanks genii !
[17:04] <Anpu_> hello all
[17:04] <Anpu_> i have problem
[17:04] <Anpu_> i m kubuntu user
[17:04] <Anpu_> and i cant see any hdd from windows nymore
[17:04] <Anpu_> anymore*
[17:04] <Anpu_> any idea how to fix it?
[17:05] <moza> thanks for all, i go back to my 8.04 have a good evening/day
[17:05] <Psi-Jack> I installed mysql-server stuff, and I imported my own mysqldump'd SQL, but because I did that, debian-sys-maint and mysql have problems now starting and stopping.
[17:06] <hell_> Anpu_ sure
[17:07] <hell_> mount them
[17:08] <Anpu_> ok, but i ve no idea ids of hdds
[17:08] <hell_> Anpu_ install disk manager
[17:08] <Anpu_> and command was mount (id number)?
[17:08] <Anpu_> aha ok
[17:12] <Anpu_> hm it ll last 1h to upgrade all. ok hell_ when i install it, i can see there ids and then execute mount for each? and how to set that they mount on every os start automatically?
[17:12] <hell_> disk manager will show you all your partition
[17:12] <hell_> and allow you to mount them
[17:13] <hell_> you juste need to launch it as root
[17:13] <hell_> (sudo disk-manager)
[17:13] <Anpu_> ok. thanks a lot!
[17:13] <hell_> and for the auto mount i don't know in kde 3.5 i know we can do it
[17:13] <hell_> in kde4 i donno
[17:13] <Psi-Jack> How do I get kbluetooth working proper?
[17:14] <Psi-Jack> kbluetooth4(7742) Solid::Control::ManagerBasePrivate::loadBackend: Backend loaded:  "BlueZ"
[17:14] <Psi-Jack> kbluetooth4(7742) KBlueTray::offlineMode: offline Mode
[17:14] <Anpu_> i ll try google it then for kde 4
[17:14] <Psi-Jack> It just goes right to offline mode, and no system tray icon for it.
[17:18] <genii> Psi-Jack: If this is in 8.10, bluetooth is currently broken
[17:18] <Psi-Jack> Seriously?
[17:18] <genii> Yes
[17:18] <Psi-Jack> Oy..
[17:18] <Psi-Jack> Worked in Gnome. :p
[17:19] <Psi-Jack> Despite the fact I don't like Gnome too much.
[17:19] <genii> Psi-Jack: If you require bluetooth, maybe keep Gnome around til kbluetooth is fixed
[17:19] <Psi-Jack> So it's kbluetooth4 that's broken?
[17:19] <genii> Psi-Jack: From what I understand, aye
[17:19] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm.
[17:20] <Psi-Jack> I'm now suddenly tempted to completely frack everything, and install Linux Mint 5. heh
[17:20] <Psi-Jack> Or go grab Kubuntu 8.04 anyway.
[17:20] <genii> Psi-Jack: Won't do much good for Mint or other *buntu derivatives, since the problem is futher up in the packages
[17:20] <Psi-Jack> There's just tooooo many problems in 8.10
[17:21] <Psi-Jack> For example, I installed Ubuntu 8.10 itself..
[17:22] <Psi-Jack> Then added kubuntu-desktop.
[17:22] <Psi-Jack> knetworkmanager doesn't work 100%
[17:22] <Psi-Jack> nm-applet works fine, but not knetworkmanager.
[17:22] <genii> Psi-Jack: It's an intermediate release between long-term support releases, so they are always messing with stuff that will eventually find it's way into the next LTS. So this tinkering is in it's early stages since first intermediate release since 8.04
[17:23] <COMMODORE64> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88567/
[17:23] <COMMODORE64> Any idea on bringing my wlan online?
[17:23] <COMMODORE64> I was asked to run lshw -C network
[17:23] <genii> Psi-Jack: If you need stability, stick to 8.04 for now
[17:23] <Psi-Jack> genii: So, what are you saying? LTS is always going to be more stable than other releases?
[17:23] <genii> Psi-Jack: Exactly
[17:24] <Psi-Jack> But, LTS also incorporates older software, correct?
[17:24] <genii> Psi-Jack: Yes. Stable older software
[17:24] <Psi-Jack> Or does LTS keep fairly current on major versions of that?
[17:24] <Psi-Jack> Like, does 8.04 come with KDE 4.1.3?
[17:24] <genii> Psi-Jack: There are backports
[17:24] <Psi-Jack> Or is it older?
[17:25] <Psi-Jack> Supported /stable/ backports, or unsupported?
[17:25] <genii> Psi-Jack: backports are supported. the -proposed repo is not, however
[17:26] <Psi-Jack> Okay. So, then I ask: If I went to install 8.04, for stability purposes. Would I still be able to get KDE4?
[17:26] <genii> Psi-Jack: Yes. Install kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[17:27] <Psi-Jack> Comes standard with kde3?
[17:27] <genii> Psi-Jack: Yes, 8.04 has kde3 standard
[17:27]  * Psi-Jack nods.
[17:27] <Psi-Jack> But, kde4 would still have the bluetooth issue, wouldn't it? ;)
[17:28] <genii> Psi-Jack: You'd have to check, but probably yes I would think so
[17:29] <genii> Work requires me, AFK a few
[17:42] <Dr_Link> I'm running the alternate, text based CD install, and for some reason, during the install, it's stalled at "Select and install Software"  "6%" "Please wait..."
[17:42] <Dr_Link> There is a lot of CD activity but no progress being shown on screen.
[17:42] <Tm_T> Dr_Link: did you check cd?
[17:42] <Psi-Jack> Okay.
[17:42] <Dr_Link> oh, wow.
[17:42] <Dr_Link> it just jumped to 18%
[17:42] <Tm_T> aww
[17:42] <hyper_ch> I'm back
[17:43] <Psi-Jack> For things like Kopete and KMail, how do I stop having to enter my password for KWallet... The whole point of storing passwords is so I don't have to keep entering the blasted thing
[17:43] <genii> Dr_Link: So just let it run
[17:50] <diego> hola
[17:54] <kurumin> lol
[17:58] <COMMODORE64> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88567/
[17:58] <COMMODORE64> I was asked to run lshw -C network
[17:58] <COMMODORE64> Any idea on bringing my wlan online?
[18:07] <greencookie> <3 :). Kubuntu > ubuntu
[18:07] <wesley> Are more people having the problem? when you miniminze a Window that the taskbar flickers ? ( When using only on open window in kde4 ) ( special effects )
[18:11] <wikki> well that sucks, installed kubuntu on a usb disk and it wacked the MBR on my main drive
[18:13] <COMMODORE64> lol?
[18:13] <COMMODORE64> i was going to try and remaster knoppix tonight and move it to USB :)
[18:13] <wesley> People?
[18:14] <COMMODORE64> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88567/
[18:14] <COMMODORE64> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88567/
[18:14] <COMMODORE64> I was asked to run lshw -C network
[18:14] <COMMODORE64> Any idea on bringing my wlan online?
[18:17] <Reformer81> Ever since I started using Amarok 2, it has given an error when starting that my "audio playback device does not work."  But I could always here the music anyway.  Now, after installing an Amarok update today, I don't get any sound.  What gives?
[18:21] <DaSkreech> They fixed the error not working as it should
[18:23] <DaSkreech> willis__: Hell ?
[18:23] <DaSkreech> +o
[18:27] <ra_> Hi
[18:28] <hyper_ch> huhu
[18:28] <pronoy> !kde 4.2
[18:28] <pronoy> is kde 4.2 out ?
[18:28] <hyper_ch> beta
[18:28] <pronoy> !kde
[18:29] <pronoy> !kde4
[18:30] <agapito> quale la chat italiana?
[18:30] <DaSkreech> !it
[18:30] <pronoy> kde 4.1.2 is the official de for intrepid right ?
[18:30] <DaSkreech> pronoy: Yes
[18:32] <pronoy> how do i make all windows open up in default maximized state rather than to maximize them after opening them?
[18:33] <pronoy> !nvidia
[18:33] <ra_> Hi, so I have just started using KDE.  Obviously, it will take a bit of time to get used to, I like things efficient, any ideas on making KDE a little more simple and efficient
[18:34] <wesley> how can i safely upgrade to jaunty ?
[18:35] <DaSkreech> wesley: install it from the cd I would think. You have a breakable box ?
[18:35] <DaSkreech> ra_: That depends on your idea of simple of course
[18:35] <Psi-Jack> For things like Kopete and KMail, how do I stop having to enter my password for KWallet... The whole point of storing passwords is so I don't have to keep entering the blasted thing
[18:36] <DaSkreech> Psi-Jack: Empty password I think
[18:36] <sourcemaker> where is the configuration file located which contains the font settings in kde?
[18:36] <Psi-Jack> DaSkreech: Okay.. How do I erase the password of an existing wallet, then? ;)
[18:36] <DaSkreech> kwalletmanager
[18:36] <wesley> DaSkreech i know that but, they still dont have fixed the intel gma bug
[18:37] <COMMODORE64> here you are DaSkreech
[18:37] <COMMODORE64> actionparsnip runs off on me
[18:37] <wesley> And they probably wont fix the bug in intrepid
[18:37] <COMMODORE64> he asked me to run lshw -C network
[18:37] <COMMODORE64> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88567/
[18:37] <COMMODORE64> appearing my wlan0 is offline for very strange reason
[18:38] <DaSkreech> wesley: Well if they haven' fixed it in Jaunty why are you running to it?
[18:38] <wesley> Bigger change they fix it there ???
[18:38] <ra_> DaSkreech, true.  I used to run Gnome, but I wanted too the other major desktop as KDE is used on many other distros as default.  Just looking to make it easier to work.  Is there a launch bar or something I could use.  Also, adept seems a little clumsey as opposed to synaptic any ideas
[18:39] <DaSkreech> wesley: Yes true but you can find that out without breaking your computer
[18:39] <Psi-Jack> When I run kwalletmanager, nothing ever happens.
[18:39] <DaSkreech> ra_: Yes long story behind that
[18:39] <DaSkreech> ra_: Well you may want to update to KDE 4.2 as in the topic
[18:39] <wesley> DaSkreech indeed thats true, but its a shame the bug exist, its making kde4 look bad
[18:40] <COMMODORE64> DaSkreech can you take a look at it sooner?
[18:40] <DaSkreech> KDe4 would say it makes X look bad
[18:40] <cyfal> has the bluetooth-bug in jaunty been fixed? i'm thinking about upgrading
[18:40] <DaSkreech> but that's semantics I guess
[18:40] <DaSkreech> What's with everyone upgrading to Jaunty?
[18:40] <ra_> DaSkreech, will that help.  Is KDE 4.1 a bad representation of KDE?
[18:41] <wesley> Maby desperate ? Because 8.10 seems to have many problems ( KDE 4.1 is not bad )
[18:41] <DaSkreech> ra_: 4.2 is better
[18:41] <DaSkreech> wesley: Honestly asking how to upgrade to Jaunty probably excludes you from running Jaunty
[18:42] <ra_> DaSkreech: Glad to see the linux world moving forward.  Would is alievate some of my objections?
[18:42] <wesley> I dont run Jaunty and i wont upgrade if there no safe way
[18:42] <DaSkreech> ra_: I don't know what your objections are
[18:42] <Reformer81> Ever since I started using Amarok 2, it has given an error when starting that my "audio playback device does not work."  But I could always here the music anyway.  Now, after installing an Amarok update today, I don't get any sound.  What gives?
[18:42] <DaSkreech> wesley: There is a safe way but Jaunty itself is not safe It's assured to break
[18:43] <ra_> DaSkreech:  Need of a launcher, Adept not as great as synaptic (a bit clumsey)
[18:43] <cyfal> so you would recommend not to upgrade to jaunty? i just would like to get the newest kde and amarok version
[18:43] <DaSkreech> ra_: What kind of launcher? Krunner isn't good ?
[18:43] <DaSkreech> cyfal: Read the topic
[18:43] <wesley> I just hope Ubuntu does fix that Intel bug, because i always though: With intel you have the best Linux desktop experience
[18:44] <ra_> DaSkreech: Don't Know didn't know it existed.  Trying to get around in KDE
[18:44] <wesley> Man need to get to the super market
[18:45] <DaSkreech> cyfal: Kubuntu normally has the latest packages availe fr at least the last release
[18:45] <ra_> DaSkreech:  Here is something to.  So Now I want to install Krunner, In Synaptic, I would search for Krunner.  But if I do that in Adept, I seem to miss it
[18:45] <COMMODORE64> :(
[18:45] <DaSkreech> wesley: You can track that wouth out installing Jaunty I wouldn't recomend it befre at least the 2 or 3rd beta
[18:46] <DaSkreech> ra_: Adept has a bug when you ad a repo it drops the xapian database
[18:46] <wesley> Just need to find the correct bug, thney nominated it, but i dont know how the process on the bug is
[18:46] <DaSkreech> ra_: Feel free to use Synaptic. Adept was a gret effort by one man to be out in time for the release of 8.10 but that brings in bugs sadly
[18:47] <ra_> DaSkreech: I hate that crossing of GTK into the KDE.  It bothers me so.
[18:47] <DaSkreech> ra_: :-) feel free to use the command line as well
[18:47] <ra_> True
[18:48] <ra_> DaSkreech: True
[18:48] <DaSkreech> wesley: Takes a short time to learn and would be well worth it as you become a better open source helper
[18:49] <wesley> i help time to time, but i feel a bit useless because none off the bugs i find are fixed
[18:50] <DaSkreech> wesley: what type of bugs ?
[18:50] <pronoy> !gambas
[18:50] <wesley> small bugs, look a feel, mostly regression, stuff like that, what a normal user would see,
[18:50] <pronoy> hey can anyone tell me what gambas is ?
[18:51] <cyfal> DaSkreech: oh sorry, I got confused with the names. Actually, I meant Hardy, not Jaunty. The newest kde-version isn't available for Hardy so I'm thinking about an upgrade to 8.10
[18:51] <DaSkreech> wesley: regression bugs are good candidates to report
[18:51] <DaSkreech> !info gambas
[18:51] <ra_> DaSkreech: Do you know the package?  Sudo apt-get install krunner doesn't work
[18:51] <DaSkreech> cyfal: oh you can follow the Intreprid notes
[18:51] <delilaz> hello room, when upgrading kubuntu to hardy via konsole a window showed up stating that I must restart the display manager manually, kdm, vdm and mdm need to be restarted for the new version of libpum???
[18:52] <DaSkreech> !upgrade | cyfal click on the 8.10 instructions. May want to try the server upgrade
[18:52] <DaSkreech> delilaz: RIght
[18:52] <delilaz> How do I do that???
[18:53] <wesley> Also hardware issius did i report, the AR5007 orso i did report it before 8.04 did release it, i know the fix even, but its still not into kubuntu
[18:53] <cyfal> I don't worry about the upgrade, have done that several times. I just wanted to know if the bluetooth bug in Hardy is already solved.
[18:53] <DaSkreech> delilaz: When you are ready to do so sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart This will kill your GUI so save anything you have open and make sure processes are not running. You can also logout and on the login screen press ^E then log back in
[18:54] <DaSkreech> wesley: Wait you know the fix? bug a MOTU
[18:54] <DaSkreech> cyfal: No
[18:54] <wesley> Yeah i know the fix for a athereos wireless lan card ( that doesnt work out off the box )
[18:54] <Armagguedes> hello
[18:55] <Armagguedes> does anyone know if there is any mobile phone compatible with Kaddressbook?
[18:55] <DaSkreech> !hi
[18:55] <cyfal> DaSkreech: Hm, pity. But thanks for the answer.
[18:55] <DaSkreech> Armagguedes: If you can get Bluetooth working in Kubuntu any bluetooth phone would work
[18:55] <DaSkreech> cyfal: working on it though :) it's listed as fix for Jaunty
[18:55] <delilaz> DaSkreech: how can processes not be running??
[18:56] <Armagguedes> DaSkreech, i'm talking about contact synchro between KAB and the phone
[18:56] <DaSkreech> delilaz: If you have something installing or copying etc. Anything that is in progress will be killed so wait until things calm down
[18:56] <Armagguedes> whether its via USB or bluetooth
[18:56] <delilaz> DaSkreech: Ah ok, no prob, thank you!!!
[18:57] <wesley> https://launchpad.net/~velroy1  thats me DaSkreech
[18:57] <DaSkreech> Great name :)
[18:58] <cyfal> DaSkreech: Great. :) Can you tell about how long it will take to fix it? I'd really like to upgrade to Hardy so that I can install KDE 4.1.3 and Amarok 2. ;)
[18:58] <DaSkreech> cyfal: Ok I'm confused. Where are you now?
[18:59] <DaSkreech> wesley: You do a lot of bug filing. You may want to hang out in #kubuntu-devel :)
[19:00] <cyfal> DaSkreech: I'm still with the bluetooth bug. Just mentioned my motivation to upgrade to Hardy. (Useless info, I know. ;) )
[19:00] <raluk> raluk
[19:00] <wesley> DaSkreech, yeah i do indeed, but last time i didnt fill any report, but i read every new reply
[19:00] <Armagguedes> has the nvidia graphics driver for 8.10 been improved already?
[19:01] <DaSkreech> cyfal: I thought yo uwere on hardy. I didn't know of a bluetooth bug in hardy
[19:01] <DaSkreech> Armagguedes: For some metric of improved
[19:03] <Guest58475> I am trying to install the flash player for firefox but I have been unsuccessful
[19:03] <Guest58475> any help
[19:04] <Armagguedes> Guest58475, add the medibuntu repositories
[19:04] <Armagguedes> i believe the flash player is in there
[19:04] <Armagguedes> www.medibuntu.org
[19:04] <Armagguedes> (or is it .com?)
[19:04] <wesley> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/213318/comments/7  here i already filled the fix
[19:05] <DaSkreech> Guest58475: install flashplayer-nonfree
[19:05] <wesley> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/213318/comments/7 this the bug where i found the fix for
[19:06] <Guest58475> daskreech: I have try that but doesnt work..
[19:06] <DaSkreech> Guest58475: What does doesn't work mean?
[19:06] <DaSkreech> wesley: Ah! That kind of fix would not get in
[19:07] <DaSkreech> Possibly a backport but you would have to argue it
[19:08] <wesley> I going release the fix, but its bad it wont get in it ( i have no idea how to backport that, but i hope madwifi will do it )
[19:08] <pronoy> !tor
[19:09] <pronoy> hey can anyone help me in setting up tor ?
[19:11] <Guest58475> daskreech: is flashplayer-nonfree or flashplugin-nonfree?
[19:11] <caris_mere> I get kpilot to sync with kde4, but kontact never shows the information
[19:11] <Guest58475> because I only have the second option on my list.. flashplugin-nonfree
[19:12] <DaSkreech> Guest58475: plugin that's correct
[19:14] <Guest58475> daskreech: I solve the problem.. thanks.
[19:14] <DaSkreech> Sure
[19:14] <Ahmuck> is there a poster like ubuntu highway poster for kubuntu i can download
[19:15] <Guest58475> daskcreech: I have another issue.. when I use the konsole, I have serious problems with the refresh.. only after I move the scroll can I see what is going on.. I am using compiz at the same time.. is that the problem? (sorry for my bad english)
[19:15] <DaSkreech> Ahmuck: No but that poster is CC attribution you can make a Kubuntu one from it and attribute it to him
[19:16] <DaSkreech> Guest58475: I'm not sure what version of KDE are you using?
[19:16] <vlad_> !how do i change the sudo password
[19:16] <vlad_> !sudo password change
[19:16] <DaSkreech> vlad_: Change your passowrd
[19:16] <vlad_> yes
[19:17] <vlad_> how can i change my sudo password from bash?
[19:17] <vlad_> please
[19:17] <Guest58475> daskreech: making : kde-config --version -> kde 3.5.10 kde.config 1.0 qt 3.3
[19:17] <DaSkreech> vlad_: Change your normal password it's the same password You can do that with the command passwd
[19:17] <jordi_> hi everyone
[19:18] <DaSkreech> Guest58475: Possibly Compiz Konsole in KDE3 was pretty solid
[19:18] <gh0s7> vlad_: in terminal type sudo passwd <account name>
[19:18] <vlad_> thx
[19:18] <DaSkreech> gh0s7: wrong
[19:18] <DaSkreech> vlad_: don't use sudo
[19:18] <DaSkreech> just normal passwd
[19:18] <vlad_> ok
[19:18] <DaSkreech> gh0s7: Oh wait <account name> :)
[19:18] <Guest58475> daskreech: any recomendation to solve this problem?
[19:18] <DaSkreech> vlad_: No with a username that would work as well :)
[19:19] <DaSkreech> Guest58475: If you have fake transparency turned on in konsole turn it off it clashes with compiz
[19:19] <jordi_> i'm using kubuntu hardy and experiencing some lag-related problems when i use vlc, kaffeine or mplayer. The sound comes 1 second later or so than the picture. Has anybody experienced this?
[19:19] <jordi_> it doesn't matter if it's an avi file, .mpeg file o dvb-s/t
[19:19] <jordi_> it's always the same
[19:19] <gh0s7> jordi_: is your problem related to the video or is it related to the amount of memory consumed by your computer?
[19:21] <jordi_> it's not defenetly the computer itself, as i'm monitoring it through snmp and the processor never gets busier than 40%
[19:21] <jordi_> even when i'm playing video o watching dvb-s
[19:21] <gh0s7> jordi_: im at a loss
[19:21] <gh0s7> jordi_: sorry
[19:21] <jordi_> and i don't think it has to do with the player, as it happens with vlc, kaffeine or mplaer
[19:22] <jordi_> mplayer
[19:22] <N8-D0G> hi all
[19:22] <delilaz> ok I'm back, I did the "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm" then all I get is this line: Usage: /etc/init.d/kdm {start|stop|reload|force-reload}
[19:22] <jordi_> gh0s7: hehe ,don't worry.
[19:22] <PhilRod> delilaz: you need to give it one of those options - I guess you probably want 'restart'
[19:22] <DaSkreech> delilaz: I said /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[19:22] <delilaz> Is that all that's suppose to happen???
[19:22] <jordi_> may be some codec-related problem?
[19:22] <gh0s7> delilaz: "/etc/init.d/kdm restart" is the same as ctrl alt backspace isnt it?
[19:22] <jordi_> i've got all the codecs installed and updated
[19:23] <delilaz> oops ok, I'll try that then :)
[19:23] <delilaz> jordi: I have no clue lol
[19:23] <gh0s7> jordi_: have you tried #ubuntu ?
[19:23] <gh0s7> jordi_: oops or maybe #kde ?
[19:23] <jordi_> i was about to ask over there :)
[19:24] <jordi_> thanks
[19:24] <DaSkreech> gh0s7: no
[19:24] <DaSkreech> gh0s7: same effect not the same thing
[19:24] <padi> wicd 1.5.6 : suddenly after the last update in kubuntu intrepid, my wireless network client says: "encryption must be enabled" when I try connecting to my WPA encrypted WLAN. ...?
[19:24] <padi> before it worked charmingly
[19:24] <gh0s7> DaSkreech: thanks for the confirmation
[19:24] <DaSkreech> gh0s7: alt+ctrl+bkspace is more abrupt but still a clean safe shutdown of X
[19:25] <delilaz> Now I got: kdm not runningkill: 194: Operation not permitted... do I have to exit konversation to do this?
[19:25] <DaSkreech> kdm shutdown sends a signal that can be reacted to by apps
[19:25] <DaSkreech> delilaz: Do it the other way logout and on the login screen press Ctrl+E then log back in
[19:26] <padi> the exact sentence was: "tnis network requires encryption to be enabled"
[19:26] <Guest58475> daskreech: the problem with the console is still there.. I will try later but thanks
[19:27] <delilaz> DaSkreech: ok thanks
[19:28] <Guest58475> any expert here can help with this please -> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3100371.0
[19:31] <delilaz> I've logged out, pressed ctrl+e, logged in, How do I know if it worked???
[19:35] <DaSkreech> delilaz: I don't know what you were trying to do
[19:36] <DaSkreech> !sound
[19:36] <delilaz> DaSkreech: restarting the display manager
[19:37] <DaSkreech> delilaz: Then that worked
[19:37] <delilaz> during upgrade it stated I must restart display manager before further M logins would be possible...
[19:37] <DaSkreech> delilaz: Did you login ?
[19:37] <delilaz> yes
[19:37] <DaSkreech> Mission accomplished!! Cake for everyone!!
[19:38] <delilaz> but I did that before without restarting the display manager..... weird lol
[19:39] <DaSkreech> Magic!! More cake for everyone!!!
[19:39] <delilaz> haha, thanks again for all the help DaSkreech!
[19:39] <delilaz> peace everyone
[19:39] <DaSkreech> Sure thing
[19:39] <DaSkreech> Ya'll come back yu hear?
[19:40] <wesley> Cake :) what did happen ?
[19:40] <delilaz> that's a given :)
[19:40] <wesley> So i have used my dutch budget calculator XD
[19:40] <DaSkreech> wesley: You are on the internet therefore the cake is a lie
[19:41] <wesley> A shit, i though ubuntu was going ship free cake
[19:41] <DaSkreech> !ohmy
[19:42] <wesley> i meant to say chips
[19:42] <wesley> ( learned that one on school )
[19:42] <DaSkreech> Enuniciate
[19:43] <wesley> may i bug about kde4.2?
[19:43] <DaSkreech> Sure
[19:43] <DaSkreech> That's the point of it being available
[19:44] <wesley> But they ask not to do that
[19:45] <DaSkreech> Where?
[19:45] <wesley> on kubuntu
[19:46] <DaSkreech> Oh yes don't file bugs against kubuntu (unless it's obviously a kubuntu bug) file it again bugs.kde.org
[19:46] <gh0s7> hey guys whats your amarok radio station of choice?
[19:47] <wesley> oh like that ( the intel bug is obviously a kubuntu bug ? )
[19:47] <DaSkreech> SHHHH.com the sounds of Silence (The Golden years)
[19:47] <DaSkreech> wesley: It is
[19:47] <jussi01> gh0s7: that question is better in #kubuntu-offtopic ;)
[19:47] <gh0s7> jussi01: oops thanks
[19:52] <wesley> DaSkreech which Grafische card do you have ?
[19:52] <DaSkreech> ATI 9600
[19:53] <wesley> Does it work good with kde4 ?
[19:55] <DaSkreech> Works fantastic for me there is a bug with the shadows but I'm not that fussy
[19:57] <wesley> Have you ever worked with a Via pc ?
[20:00] <wesley> Via c7
[20:00] <DaSkreech> Not recently
[20:00] <wesley> i am wondering will that work okay? they say via uses not much energy and is very cheap
[20:01] <wesley> a motherboard with a via c7 and 1 gb memory for only € 69
[20:01] <DaSkreech> It should You can hit the kubuntu or Kde forums to chat some more
[20:09] <bushwhacker_> where can i find the mac80211 for kernel 2.6.27.7 ?
[20:13] <DaSkreech> The what?
[20:13] <bushwhacker_> i remembered i tried to install the mac80211 for wifi, it failed because my kerner is not compatible on older mac80211
[20:16] <athlon1> Any of you know a prgram for controlling linux with a mobile like bluepad? I'm unable to do bluepad to work with kubuntu 8.04...
[20:17] <Sensae> This is ridiculous. Fresh install of Kubuntu, Grub error 17
[20:17] <COMMODORE64> sorry
[20:17] <COMMODORE64> someone booted me off.
[20:17] <caligula__> hey guys
[20:17] <COMMODORE64> anyway did you said something after me saying the incompatibility at old version of mac80211
[20:17] <caligula__> anyone here any good with setting up a mail server?
[20:23] <^peter^> I installed Kubuntu 8.1   and mostly works fine.  But no password was aasked for root in installation.  WHEN i use su command, it will not accept the password I put in for log-in
[20:24] <Mamarok> ^peter^: there is no root password, but the first user gets sudo rights by default
[20:25] <^peter^> Mamarok   Ah ok, but it does not let me use my password which works ok to log in (I am the only user).
[20:26] <Pici> ^peter^: don't use su, use sudo.
[20:26] <Pici> !sudo | ^peter^
[20:26] <^peter^> But perjaps I have assumed that you can be su, but it then allows sudo for each command ?
[20:27] <^peter^> Yes I did not try sudo   thanks I will go back to that
[20:30] <^peter^> ubottu  thanks for that link.  I see the problem now.   I just have not used linux for quite some time, and times change.
[20:30] <^peter^> oh  !!!!
[20:32] <^peter^> Thanks Pici
[20:32] <Pici> ^peter^: sure :)
[20:33] <DaSkreech> Sensae: Yeha I had the same problem
[20:34] <Dekans> Is quickacces available with KDE 4.2 ?
[20:34] <Dekans> +s
[20:35] <DaSkreech> ^peter^: no you are right there is a su Ubuntu has made the choice to disable it.
[20:35] <DaSkreech> Dekans: Yes it's installed by deafult
[20:35] <DaSkreech> ^peter^: Somethings don't really change :)
[20:36] <wesley> the Intel GMA 950 is that a good /
[20:38] <wesley> http://cgi.ebay.nl/Intel-BOXD945GCLF2-MINI-ITX-945GC-Dual-Core-Atom-330_W0QQitemZ310108323087QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item310108323087&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177#ebayphotohosting
[20:38] <wesley> would run kubuntu fine on this system ?
[20:38] <Pici> Yes.
[20:38] <Psi-Jack> wesley: Looking.
[20:38] <Psi-Jack> Oh, definately.
[20:39] <wesley> Its the Intel atom ( duo )
[20:39] <wesley> I wanna build a costum mini pc
[20:39] <Psi-Jack> Ubuntu with KDE4.1.3 I'm running now, is only an AMD Athlon XP 32-bit 2800+, and runs it fine.
[20:40] <wesley> Did you ever hear of Via C7 ?
[20:40] <Psi-Jack> Not me.
[20:41] <wesley> Thats very cheap processors, but its only 1200 mhz
[20:41] <Psi-Jack> I only deal with AMD or Intel.. AMD > Intel.
[20:41] <Psi-Jack> VIA CPUs suck.
[20:41] <Psi-Jack> For conventional use.
[20:41] <antiroach> heh amd is gonna go bankrup
[20:41] <antiroach> t
[20:41] <Psi-Jack> No they ain't.
[20:42] <wesley> That atom is intresseting because its a low comsuming processor
[20:42] <Psi-Jack> VIA CPU's are okay for embedded systems, which is exactly what they are geared for.
[20:43] <wesley> The Atom is defitely better with 2 cores :)
[20:43] <wesley> 1600 x 2
[20:45] <wesley> wondering if i can get them cheap in the netherlands
[20:45] <Dekans> DaSkreech: thanks
[20:45] <DaSkreech> Dekans: alt+F2 -> Click on the Wrench -> Change to command mode I think.
[20:46] <DaSkreech> antiroach: They can't
[20:46] <milemist> I'm trying to install some proprietary drivers with the "Hardware Drivers" application, but several packages seem to be missing. Do I need to install those one by one? could someone tell me?
[20:48] <Dekans> ?
[20:49] <Pici> milemist: Why do you think packages are missing?
[20:49] <BluesKaj> drivers for what , milemist ?
[20:49] <Psi-Jack> How do I get OSS devices listed in KDE4.1's sound settings Audio Capture listing to actually show up using the gstreamer backend?
[20:49] <DaSkreech> Dekans: Alt+F2 -> Click the wrench -> user Interface -> Task oriented
[20:51] <milemist> When I try to activate the drivers, while installing them, it says "sorry, package "XXXX" failed to install or upgrade!
[20:51] <milemist> the drivers are for a broadcom card
[20:52] <milemist> and an ATI graphics driver
[20:53] <Guest58475> I am usign kde 3.5 should I upgrade to 4.1??
[20:53] <Guest58475> *using
[20:53] <CTShadow> how do i remove entries from kmenu in kde4.1?
[20:55] <Psi-Jack> What's a KDE4 recording program?
[20:56] <Psi-Jack> CTShadow: Right click the menu button, Menu Editor
[20:56] <Dekans> DaSkreech: ah ok, I understood quickaccess was on the board out of the box
[20:56] <Dekans> thank you
[20:56] <CTShadow> Psi-Jack: thank you very much, i should have thought of that myself
[20:57] <Psi-Jack> Yeah, a lot of KDE is pretty much common sense these days. ;)
[20:57] <DaSkreech> Dekans: Board?
[20:57] <Psi-Jack> Always has been really, but it's even more so in the 4 series than ever before.
[20:57] <DaSkreech> Guest58475: I have no idea. If KDE 4.1 works for you then yes if it doesn't then no
[20:57] <Psi-Jack> Unlike Gnome, hiding everything in gconf crap.
[20:57] <antiroach> Psi-Jack k3b
[20:57] <Psi-Jack> antiroach: k3b is a CD burning program.
[20:58] <Psi-Jack> antiroach: I need audio recording.
[20:58] <antiroach> i know
[20:58] <antiroach> what do you mean by recording ?
[20:58] <antiroach> ah ok gotcha.
[20:58] <antiroach> maybe audacity does it ?
[20:58] <DaSkreech> kdenlive  ?
[20:58] <antiroach> or krecorder heh
[20:58] <DaSkreech> What level of Audio recording?
[20:58] <Psi-Jack> Right now? Simple microphone stuff.
[20:59] <Dekans> DaSkreech: what's the name for kicker in HDE 4 ?
[20:59] <Dekans> KDE*
[20:59] <DaSkreech> Dekans:
[20:59] <torero> give me please cannel from Russia
[20:59] <DaSkreech> Panel
[20:59] <DaSkreech> !ru
[20:59] <torero> !ru
[20:59] <Psi-Jack> But, I don't see krecord.
[20:59] <antiroach> sudo aptitude install krecord ?
[20:59] <Psi-Jack> E: Package krecord has no installation candidate
[21:00] <Psi-Jack> Package krecord is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[21:00] <antiroach> hmm ya thats strange
[21:00] <CTShadow> Psi-Jack: Jeah, you'r right. But when you are working with Windows all your life you forget common sense :)
[21:00] <DaSkreech> CTShadow: Praise be. Someone else sees the insanity
[21:00] <Psi-Jack> CTShadow: Not really. Besides Window's registry, most of the basic functions are still common sense
[21:01] <DaSkreech> Приветствую
[21:01] <Psi-Jack> Which is exactly what Gnome seems to be copying, Window's errors with registery. ;)
[21:01] <DaSkreech> Psi-Jack: No a lot of Windows is crazy when trying to explain it to someone who has no clue
[21:02] <Psi-Jack> I never had a problem.
[21:02] <DaSkreech> Linux is bad but at least it focuses on teaching you core concepts and building on them
[21:02] <DaSkreech>  WIndows is purely random
[21:03] <CTShadow> DaSkreech: yeah, and in my opinion it is awful that nearly everyone grows up with windows and often doesn't even know that there are also other, even better, operating systems
[21:05] <DaSkreech> CTShadow: Only you can change that!!
[21:05] <DaSkreech> *cough* and thousands of programmers artists organizers and supporters
[21:05] <DaSkreech> Only you!!
[21:06] <Dekans> mmm
[21:06] <Dekans> kde3 apps icons don't go in the systray
[21:06] <Dekans> but KDE 4.2 seems pretty cool =)
[21:09] <Guest58475> !kde4.2
[21:09] <Psi-Jack> Okay. In Firefox 3, since I initially installed Ubuntu, not Kubuntu, Firefox wants to use Evolution for mail, but I don't want to use Evolution for mail, instead, I use Kmail (for now):  How do I properly configure Firefox to use kmail, as it's not listed as an action in the dropdown list?
[21:09] <DaSkreech> Guest58475: Read the topic
[21:10] <Dekans> Psi-Jack: in firefox preferences
[21:10] <Dekans> there's an applications tab
[21:11] <Psi-Jack> Yes.
[21:11] <Psi-Jack> I'm there now.
[21:11] <Dekans> you should sut it up here
[21:11] <Psi-Jack> As I said, kmail is not listed in the drop-down list. ;)
[21:11] <DaSkreech> http://www.terminaldigit.com/2008/08/08/get-firefox-to-honor-kde-file-associations/
[21:11] <Psi-Jack> GMail and Yahoo Mail are, or Other, which I presume is what I'd need to do.. But..
[21:11] <DaSkreech> you can do other and put in the output of which kmail I think
[21:11]  * Psi-Jack tilts his head.
[21:12] <Dekans> Psi-Jack: you can find kmail
[21:12] <Dekans> in /usr/bin/kmail
[21:13] <camdna97> hey guys, is there a documented way to install kubuntu using a floopy boot disk and the image on a usb drive?
[21:14] <Psi-Jack> Okay, cool. I wasn't sure that'd be all there need to do.
[21:15] <DaSkreech> !install
[21:16] <camdna97> ok, tring to get it installed on a laptop that the cd-drive is bad
[21:16] <sourcemaker> where is the configuration file located which contains the font settings for kde?
[21:21] <jtisme> camdna97, hold on i may have the url
[21:22] <jtisme> camdna97, here is one i know about http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[21:24] <robinr> The upgrade instructions for 8.04-8.10 says: kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel"
[21:25] <robinr> but I have no kdesu
[21:25] <Psi-Jack> DaSkreech: Heh, that URL you gave earlier, doesn't seem to want to work. ;)
[21:25] <DaSkreech> i gave lots of urls
[21:25] <Psi-Jack> DaSkreech: I double-click a file in the download list, in this case, a tar.gz, it opens it, immediately.
[21:25] <Psi-Jack> DaSkreech: The one about Firefox. ;)
[21:26] <antiroach> robinr sudo aptitude install kdesu
[21:26] <antiroach> or maybe not :(
[21:26] <robinr> ..not
[21:27] <antiroach> robinr sudo aptitude install kdesudo
[21:28] <DaSkreech> robinr: kdesudo
[21:28] <DaSkreech> Might not be symlinked correctly
[21:30] <robinr> and the rest? I have not kdesu and no adept_manager
[21:30] <antiroach> your distro is fucked up heh
[21:30] <robinr> this page btw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades
[21:30] <antiroach> kdesudo should make kdesu for you
[21:30] <antiroach> available
[21:30] <antiroach> what are you upgrading from
[21:31] <antiroach> sudo aptitude install adept
[21:32] <robinr> forget it...
[21:32] <antiroach> ok.
[21:32] <DaSkreech> !ohmy | antiroach
[21:32] <robinr> it says I have 8.10, i could swear it was 8.0.4
[21:33] <antiroach> DaSkreech haha sorry
[21:33] <robinr> thanks anyway
[21:35] <DaSkreech> robinr: You are on Ibex
[21:37] <robinr> DaSkreech: Codename:       intrepid
[21:37] <robinr> it says
[21:37] <robinr> Release:        8.10
[21:37] <DaSkreech> robinr: you are up to date
[21:37] <robinr> so kde 4.2 is not included, ok
[21:37] <antiroach> right
[21:38] <DaSkreech> robinr: 4.2 doesn't exist yet
[21:46] <Dr_Link> KDE > GNOME > Xfce > Fluxbox.
[21:49] <sourcemaker> do I need a std.vcf file resource... if I use akonadi?
[21:49] <sourcemaker> kde 4.2 b2
[21:50] <DaSkreech> sourcemaker: you can if you like
[21:50] <vega_> ..
[21:56] <sourcemaker> DaSkreech: I am not sure... but do I need both?
[21:58] <DaSkreech> sourcemaker: no
[21:58] <sourcemaker> DaSkreech:  in system settings... I can define the akonadi resource for my contacts... this is a std.vcf file
[21:59] <sourcemaker> DaSkreech: but in kresource... I can also define this...
[22:00] <sourcemaker> DaSkreech: ok... I understand now... wow... :-)
[22:04] <DaSkreech> :-)
[22:09] <yotux> is there a way to make websites think that I am using firefox when I am using konquerer
[22:10] <DaSkreech> yotux: tools menu
[22:10] <yotux> I am new to KDE and willing to give it a try
[22:11] <genii> yotux: An oldie but goodie http://forum.soft32.com/linux/Konqueror-User-Agent-ftopict282046.html
[22:11] <Dekans> does someone know how to have a notification only for the first message ssend by a contact in kopete
[22:11] <Dekans> and note the 3 or 4 lines in a column of notifications at one time
[22:11] <yotux> do you guys use konquere more than firefox?
[22:11] <genii> yotux: Not me
[22:12] <Dekans> I tried to 'enqueue' messages but it's not that
[22:12] <Dekans> yotux: nope
[22:12] <yotux> genii: what do you use?
[22:12] <avihayb> yotux: about 10% of the sites I use don't preform well on knoq
[22:12] <yotux> safe to assume you are using firefox?
[22:13] <genii> yotux: Firefox, generally. But also elinks since I'm ssh-ing a lot
[22:13] <avihayb> it is. but I was thinking seriously of switching to chromioum
[22:14] <yotux> chrome is coll was not aware there was a nix version yet.  Use it a work where there are only windows clients
[22:14] <DaSkreech> Dekans: It only shows the first one
[22:14] <Psi-Jack> Okay, Screw it. How do I upgrade KDE to 4.2 beta, but /just/ KDE?
[22:14] <yotux> For me firefox is really slow with gmail
[22:14] <avihayb> http://www.codeweavers.com/services/ports/chromium/
[22:15] <genii> Psi-Jack: The 4.2 beta link is in the /topic :)
[22:15] <Psi-Jack> Oh.. Well..
[22:15] <avihayb> I had lot's of problems with firefox on this 8.10 release. untill I change the QT4 engine or renderer or whatever it's called
[22:16] <yotux> you have a like for that ?
[22:16] <DaSkreech> Psi-Jack: What?
[22:16] <Dekans> DaSkreech: not for me :(
[22:16] <genii> Well, I gotta leave work and go home. I'll be /away now.
[22:16] <Psi-Jack> I'm good. Looking at KDE4.2beta2
[22:16] <yotux> drive safe genii
[22:16] <Dekans> I have several messages at one time in notifications
[22:17] <DaSkreech> Dekans: Use a message queue and check queue unread messages
[22:17] <avihayb> anyone can hint me as to how I can get my display adapter to behave? intel 965 kubuntu 8.10
[22:17] <Psi-Jack> Why does adept suck so much though? I find myself using synaptic more, because it's interface has more to it, more informational.
[22:17] <Dekans> DaSkreech: it's what i did
[22:18] <Dekans> I don't think I have to restart kopete
[22:18] <DaSkreech> Psi-Jack: The authour wrote it in a very short time period as a favour to get it there in time for Kubuntu 81.0 release
[22:18] <Psi-Jack> Oh.
[22:18] <DaSkreech> Dekans: You don't. It will queue up a bunch of stuff
[22:18] <avihayb> Psi-Jack: My theory is that adept was designed by aliens for aliens useing dead alien parts, but thats just a theory
[22:18] <Psi-Jack> heh
[22:18] <DaSkreech> Dekans: Press ctrl+Shift+I and it will jump to the first message and dequeue the rest
[22:19] <DaSkreech> As long as you have the window focused you will get no more notifications
[22:19] <DaSkreech>  when it's not focused it will queue up the first one again with a trail
[22:19] <Dekans> but when the window doesn't have
[22:19] <Dekans> if I receive 5 lines of message
[22:19] <Dekans> I have 5 notifications
[22:20] <Dekans> and I 'enqueue' messages :/
[22:20] <DaSkreech> Dekans: ctrl+shit+I should remove all of them
[22:20] <avihayb> I find adept so counter intuituve, that I can't use it for more then 30 sec at a time in fear of major headakes
[22:20] <DaSkreech> avihayb: It's dead. The Authour blogged it two days ago
[22:20] <avihayb> acks
[22:20] <avihayb> WOHO!
[22:20] <Dekans> DaSkreech: It's not a good solution, I wanna have one single notification for one contact chating
[22:21] <Dekans> but it's not very important
[22:21] <avihayb> lonk live synaptic!
[22:21] <avihayb> *long
[22:21] <DaSkreech> Dekans: Yeah it used to work like that but ironically it drove me crazy
[22:21] <DaSkreech> Dekans: You can suggest a solution in #kopete or code a new option
[22:22] <avihayb> ok, here is one for you: How do I stop my system from changeing the numlock status while shift is pressed?
[22:23] <Dekans> coding would take me a lot of time, and I don't have it for now :(
[22:27] <Koordin-> hi, does someone here have a little time to spend for me ? i have a sound that has a very bad quality, could someone help me to turn it right ? i tried with audacity, but without sucess ... http://www.partage-facile.com/148434-partie_1.wma.html  please i need someone's help
[22:30] <avihayb> yotux: well, seems codeweavers just made chromum compatible with wine, so it's not a reasonable browser solution
[22:36] <denis_> !de
[22:38] <denis_> Hello, I have problems installing Amarok 2
[22:39] <denis_> I added the source but Adept doesn't show me the amarok-kkde package
[22:44] <denis_> schnarch
[22:52] <bahr> omg this kde thing is really totally different than my old windows thingy :-o
[23:03] <DaSkreech> bahr: ha ha :-)
[23:03] <mr_clark> Hi guys. Upgraded to Openoffice.org 3. When I start it I get a message about recovering a file, it crashes and the only error I see on the command line is:
[23:04] <mr_clark> ASSERT: "slOpt" in file /build/buildd/kde4libs-4.1.2/kdeui/kernel/kstyle.cpp, line 3314
[23:04] <mr_clark> I did a google search and found some others with the same problem but no solution. Any ideas?
[23:05] <wvmac_> mr_clark: same problem here, haven't looked for a solution yet
[23:07] <mr_clark> Hoping I can easily downgrade. just trying it now. Very frustrating.
[23:08] <mr_clark> Every other distro seems to have 3 included.
[23:13] <DaSkreech> mr_clark: There is a PPA with KDE3
[23:13] <genii> DaSkreech: It may or may not be up right now
[23:14] <DaSkreech> genii: Curses
[23:14] <DaSkreech> Anyway I'm off
[23:15] <genii> The kubuntu devs asked the guy to make sure it doesn't break anything first, previously he had been distributing it from his own website
[23:16]  * genii gives DaSkreech a parting gift
[23:17] <sigma20> can someone please post me a screenshot of the kmail message view  from beta 2?
[23:29] <mr_clark> DarkriftX, I don't want to go back to kde 3.
[23:29] <mr_clark> oops. sorry.
[23:29] <mr_clark> That was for DaSkreech
[23:30] <Psi-Jack> Does the kubuntu 8.10 installer allow you to define and setup LVM stripes?
[23:31] <Psi-Jack> Or LVM at all? (but hopefully defining striping, not just concat)
[23:42] <bob_> can you "share" a mount point like you can a windows share?
[23:55] <Psyrix> I just installed KDE for Ubuntu 8.10, and i log in, and the text is so small....i can't tell what i am doing, can anyone help me?
[23:57] <genii> bob_: For linux-linux machine sharing, you mean? Or some other thing