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burnerwhat's the word on nvidia drivers?  the -nv drivers work, but they're a bit sloppy...  i notice nouveau is currently not apt-gettable either00:31
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sistogood night01:43
sistodoes anyone know if speeding up the startup is still a priority for jaunty?01:43
loic-mit was still a priority last week at uds01:52
sistonice02:14
sistocan't wait to try jaunty :D02:14
sistothere's still 4 month and a half left though :(02:15
sistobut that's lots of time to make it even better :D02:15
macowhen can we expect alpha 2?02:25
charlie-tcamaco: soon as qa gets it tested02:44
macocharlie-tca: the iso or the installed version?02:45
macoi have a broken cd drive, so i cant test anything bigger than a net install (cd drive breaks at about 100mb)02:46
charlie-tcaHuh? At least the iso. It was due out today.02:47
charlie-tcaI don´t know if there will be a net install, but I think so.02:47
macowell the X packages are still busted right?02:49
charlie-tcabusted how? I have not had any issues with the alternate installs02:49
crimsuncharlie-tca: proprietary drivers02:53
charlie-tcaYeah, I think still busted02:54
crimsunI know for a fact that both are still busted02:54
charlie-tcaThe push is to get the iso out, then try to get that fixed02:54
crimsununderstood, and those of us who understand the breakage understand that it's not as simple as simply changing the provides in debian/control02:55
macocharlie-tca: what about dist-upgrades for people who dont use proprietary drivers? those likely to work?02:55
charlie-tcaI don´t know. I haven´t done anything with them yet02:56
crimsunmaco: yes, unless you use the vmmouse driver02:56
macoi dont currently have any vm's going02:56
crimsunmaco: then again, that driver was removed from xorg's -input-all, so you should be fine02:56
macois vmmouse for specific virtuailizaton software?02:56
macooh ok02:56
charlie-tcathanks, crimsun02:56
tretlehi anyone awake?04:56
burnersure05:09
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BUGabundo_workHew: ping08:31
HewBUGabundo_work: pong08:31
BUGabundo_workdo you remember https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seahorse/+bug/308985 ?08:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 308985 in seahorse "seahorse segfault when adding remote server ssh key" [Undecided,New]08:31
BUGabundo_workthat we were talking to gnomefreak a few day?08:32
BUGabundo_workits getting horse...08:32
BUGabundo_worknow the pineentry never gets send to foreground08:32
BUGabundo_workits always stuck in the background....08:32
BUGabundo_workhumm now that I think of it, I think it's a bug with Compiz08:32
BUGabundo_work(yeah I'm crazy like that, I run compiz with a broken nvidia driver, and screen never refreshs properly)08:33
Hewhehe08:33
BUGabundo_workshould I file it against compiz and pine entry?08:33
* BUGabundo_work tests with compiz off08:34
Hewif it happens with Compiz but not Metacity, then yes report it as Yet Another Compiz bug :P08:34
BUGabundo_workLOL YACB08:35
BUGabundo_workConfirmed08:36
BUGabundo_workCompiz bug with the pine entry pop up08:36
BUGabundo_workfiling now08:36
BUGabundo_workbah.. apport-cli 87% network problem08:40
BUGabundo_workagain...08:40
BUGabundo_workHew: is it working for you?08:41
BUGabundo_workHew: FYI bug 30962208:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 309622 in compiz "Compiz takes pinentry stay in background" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30962208:48
HewBUGabundo_work: Sorry was afk. I haven't used apport in a while so I'm not sure.09:35
HewBUGabundo_work: For Compiz bugs I always try and disable as many plugins using ccsm to see if one of them makes the issue disappear09:36
BUGabundo_workI'll try that latter09:37
Hewok09:37
BUGabundo_workHew: would never have guessed you'r from Down Under!10:15
smallfoot-__motherfuckers!10:59
smallfoot-__you cant trust the ubuntu people10:59
smallfoot-__they say they gonna release alpha2 on dec18, but then they dont!!10:59
smallfoot-__its dec 19 now!! where is alpha 210:59
bazhangsmallfoot-__, dont curse10:59
smallfoot-__ok ry11:00
smallfoot-__sry11:00
smallfoot-__i love ubuntu servers11:01
smallfoot-__im downloading daily-live .iso in 11.0 mbyte/s11:02
smallfoot-__i downloaded 692 megabyte in 25 seconds11:02
ikoniasmallfoot-__: do you have a discussion/question regarding ubuntu 9.04 ?11:02
smallfoot-__i didnt find alpha 2, so i downloaded live cd11:02
smallfoot-__i gonna run it in virtualbox now11:02
ikoniasmallfoot-__: do you have a discussion/question regarding ubuntu 9.04 ?11:02
smallfoot-__hmm... i think im gonna leave now11:03
smallfoot-__bye11:03
HewBUGabundo_work: Why wouldn't you have guessed? :P11:08
BUGabundo_workI don't know... not that a common name11:12
HewBUGabundo_work: Yea it's Welsh, I've never met anyone with the same name/spelling.11:17
HewI thought perhaps you wouldn't have guessed because I'm up at crazy non-Australian hours :P11:18
BUGabundo_workeheh11:33
BUGabundo_workthere are crazy people all around11:33
BUGabundo_workmaco stays up until 7/8am... how would guess that11:34
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thefishhello, are the alpha-2 cd images still being uploaded?17:01
Picithefish: They are still being tested.17:01
thefishok cheers Pici17:02
thefishhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/JauntyJackalope/TechnicalOverview17:02
thefishthat says where to download them from17:02
thefishall links from that are dead17:02
thefishother pages also link to the cdimage server for alpha-217:02
Picithefish: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all17:03
thefishcheers Pici, i guess this is very similar to the dailies17:03
thefishare they supposed to be released today?17:04
Picithefish: The timeline actually says yesterday, but I haven't been following the QA process for the images so I'm not sure what exactly is going on.17:06
thefishah it will probably be soon17:08
thefishwas wondering about editing those pages17:08
thefishbut as i press save, they will become available17:08
BUGabundo_workthefish: why not !daily ?17:20
BUGabundo_work!daily17:20
ubottuDaily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/17:20
thefishBUGabundo_work: because the wiki pages dont point to them17:21
thefishi downloaded a daily after i saw alpha2 wasnt there :)17:21
BUGabundo_workokay17:21
BUGabundo_workhave a nice weekend17:22
tretleI read somewhere that packagekit would be the default for kubuntu jaunty, will it be the default for ubuntu jaunty too?20:30
tretlehttp://web.mornfall.net/blog/farewell__44___adept.html20:40
tretlethis is where i got the info20:40
x1250does anyone else has problems with gnome-settings-daemon? It does not run. Version is 2.25.2-0ubuntu3.20:43
x1250I'm sticked with a default gnome look.20:43
_Zeus_Hi, I'm running Jaunty, and for some reason I can't install nvidia-glx-* without removing xserver-xorg and derivitaves20:43
x1250_Zeus_, apt-get or aptitude should say why?20:46
_Zeus_http://paste.ubuntu.com/88740/20:47
x1250apt-get user?20:53
x1250what does aptitude say?20:53
x1250did you do a apt-get dist-upgrade before?20:54
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_Zeus_x1250: what do you mean user?20:56
x1250if you use apt-get to upgrade jaunty20:56
_Zeus_i did do dist-upgrade20:56
_Zeus_yes, i think so20:57
x1250_Zeus_, X is broken, there are some dependency problems in the repo right now. I guess some bad things on your side when you made your apt-get dist-upgrade. Does this happen if you install another package (not the nvidia one)?21:02
_Zeus_nope21:03
x1250_Zeus_, this may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101184721:06
x1250it seems to be related at least21:06
pupolupilousany clue on when alpha2 will be available?22:00
SwedeMikeyou mean outside of what the release schedule says?22:02
SwedeMikeoh, it was supposed to be released yesterday.22:03
Volkodavanybody tried xfce 4.6 beta 2 yet ?22:04
DrHalanhey, hows alpha 2 you guys? :)22:05
_Zeus_is it out yet?22:06
DrHalanah damn dec 20th right?22:07
DrHalanso hows jaunty in general i didn't have the opportunity yet to check it out22:07
pupolupilousand poof, alpha2 becomes available22:17
DrHalanpupolupilous: pardon me?22:21
pupolupilousi was attempting to download 9.04 alpha2 , but it wasn't available yet, and then soon enough it showed up22:24
_Zeus_DrHalan: Jaunty is fairly stable22:26
_Zeus_*knock on wood*22:26
DrHalan:P22:28
DrHalanwell it is just debian import atm i guess isn't it _Zeus_?22:28
_Zeus_pretty much, yes, but that can get pretty hairy in itself22:29
DrHalanyeah sure cause it is from unstable22:50
anderskWhen I switch to virtual console 1 with Ctrl+Alt+F1, what might be causing an immediate switch back to virtual console 7?23:23
geniiandersk: No valid shells... you may not have 7 vt ...23:25
anderskIt only happens sometimes.  If I switch to console 1 twice, it almost always sticks the second time.23:26
geniiSame thing with 2 thru 6 as well?23:29
anderskI haven't tried.  I'll get back to you on that.23:30
anderskYes.  I just reproduced it with 7 -> 2.23:31
DanaGandersk: Happens to me too.23:54
DanaGAnd then if I hit ctrl-c.... the X server ITSELF gets the SIGINT... and quits.23:54
crimsunconsolekit.23:55
anderskAh.  This is bug 271962.  Thanks.23:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 271962 in consolekit "VT-switching from X returns you to X the first time" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27196223:56
DanaGOh yeah, I did figure out why I kept getting fglrx hanging with "ASIC hang happened" -- my GPU is defective.23:59
DanaGI'm sending the laptop in to HP to get it fixed.23:59

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