[00:31] what's the word on nvidia drivers? the -nv drivers work, but they're a bit sloppy... i notice nouveau is currently not apt-gettable either === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [01:43] good night [01:43] does anyone know if speeding up the startup is still a priority for jaunty? [01:52] it was still a priority last week at uds [02:14] nice [02:14] can't wait to try jaunty :D [02:15] there's still 4 month and a half left though :( [02:15] but that's lots of time to make it even better :D [02:25] when can we expect alpha 2? [02:44] maco: soon as qa gets it tested [02:45] charlie-tca: the iso or the installed version? [02:46] i have a broken cd drive, so i cant test anything bigger than a net install (cd drive breaks at about 100mb) [02:47] Huh? At least the iso. It was due out today. [02:47] I don´t know if there will be a net install, but I think so. [02:49] well the X packages are still busted right? [02:49] busted how? I have not had any issues with the alternate installs [02:53] charlie-tca: proprietary drivers [02:54] Yeah, I think still busted [02:54] I know for a fact that both are still busted [02:54] The push is to get the iso out, then try to get that fixed [02:55] understood, and those of us who understand the breakage understand that it's not as simple as simply changing the provides in debian/control [02:55] charlie-tca: what about dist-upgrades for people who dont use proprietary drivers? those likely to work? [02:56] I don´t know. I haven´t done anything with them yet [02:56] maco: yes, unless you use the vmmouse driver [02:56] i dont currently have any vm's going [02:56] maco: then again, that driver was removed from xorg's -input-all, so you should be fine [02:56] is vmmouse for specific virtuailizaton software? [02:56] oh ok [02:56] thanks, crimsun [04:56] hi anyone awake? [05:09] sure === WelshDragon is now known as Guest27540 === kniolet_ is now known as kniolet [08:31] Hew: ping [08:31] BUGabundo_work: pong [08:31] do you remember https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seahorse/+bug/308985 ? [08:31] Launchpad bug 308985 in seahorse "seahorse segfault when adding remote server ssh key" [Undecided,New] [08:32] that we were talking to gnomefreak a few day? [08:32] its getting horse... [08:32] now the pineentry never gets send to foreground [08:32] its always stuck in the background.... [08:32] humm now that I think of it, I think it's a bug with Compiz [08:33] (yeah I'm crazy like that, I run compiz with a broken nvidia driver, and screen never refreshs properly) [08:33] hehe [08:33] should I file it against compiz and pine entry? [08:34] * BUGabundo_work tests with compiz off [08:34] if it happens with Compiz but not Metacity, then yes report it as Yet Another Compiz bug :P [08:35] LOL YACB [08:36] Confirmed [08:36] Compiz bug with the pine entry pop up [08:36] filing now [08:40] bah.. apport-cli 87% network problem [08:40] again... [08:41] Hew: is it working for you? [08:48] Hew: FYI bug 309622 [08:48] Launchpad bug 309622 in compiz "Compiz takes pinentry stay in background" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/309622 [09:35] BUGabundo_work: Sorry was afk. I haven't used apport in a while so I'm not sure. [09:36] BUGabundo_work: For Compiz bugs I always try and disable as many plugins using ccsm to see if one of them makes the issue disappear [09:37] I'll try that latter [09:37] ok [10:15] Hew: would never have guessed you'r from Down Under! [10:59] motherfuckers! [10:59] you cant trust the ubuntu people [10:59] they say they gonna release alpha2 on dec18, but then they dont!! [10:59] its dec 19 now!! where is alpha 2 [10:59] smallfoot-__, dont curse [11:00] ok ry [11:00] sry [11:01] i love ubuntu servers [11:02] im downloading daily-live .iso in 11.0 mbyte/s [11:02] i downloaded 692 megabyte in 25 seconds [11:02] smallfoot-__: do you have a discussion/question regarding ubuntu 9.04 ? [11:02] i didnt find alpha 2, so i downloaded live cd [11:02] i gonna run it in virtualbox now [11:02] smallfoot-__: do you have a discussion/question regarding ubuntu 9.04 ? [11:03] hmm... i think im gonna leave now [11:03] bye [11:08] BUGabundo_work: Why wouldn't you have guessed? :P [11:12] I don't know... not that a common name [11:17] BUGabundo_work: Yea it's Welsh, I've never met anyone with the same name/spelling. [11:18] I thought perhaps you wouldn't have guessed because I'm up at crazy non-Australian hours :P [11:33] eheh [11:33] there are crazy people all around [11:34] maco stays up until 7/8am... how would guess that === Richie is now known as WelshDragon === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [17:01] hello, are the alpha-2 cd images still being uploaded? [17:01] thefish: They are still being tested. [17:02] ok cheers Pici [17:02] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/JauntyJackalope/TechnicalOverview [17:02] that says where to download them from [17:02] all links from that are dead [17:02] other pages also link to the cdimage server for alpha-2 [17:03] thefish: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all [17:03] cheers Pici, i guess this is very similar to the dailies [17:04] are they supposed to be released today? [17:06] thefish: The timeline actually says yesterday, but I haven't been following the QA process for the images so I'm not sure what exactly is going on. [17:08] ah it will probably be soon [17:08] was wondering about editing those pages [17:08] but as i press save, they will become available [17:20] thefish: why not !daily ? [17:20] !daily [17:20] Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [17:21] BUGabundo_work: because the wiki pages dont point to them [17:21] i downloaded a daily after i saw alpha2 wasnt there :) [17:21] okay [17:22] have a nice weekend [20:30] I read somewhere that packagekit would be the default for kubuntu jaunty, will it be the default for ubuntu jaunty too? [20:40] http://web.mornfall.net/blog/farewell__44___adept.html [20:40] this is where i got the info [20:43] does anyone else has problems with gnome-settings-daemon? It does not run. Version is 2.25.2-0ubuntu3. [20:43] I'm sticked with a default gnome look. [20:43] <_Zeus_> Hi, I'm running Jaunty, and for some reason I can't install nvidia-glx-* without removing xserver-xorg and derivitaves [20:46] _Zeus_, apt-get or aptitude should say why? [20:47] <_Zeus_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88740/ [20:53] apt-get user? [20:53] what does aptitude say? [20:54] did you do a apt-get dist-upgrade before? === tretle_ is now known as tretle [20:56] <_Zeus_> x1250: what do you mean user? [20:56] if you use apt-get to upgrade jaunty [20:56] <_Zeus_> i did do dist-upgrade [20:57] <_Zeus_> yes, i think so [21:02] _Zeus_, X is broken, there are some dependency problems in the repo right now. I guess some bad things on your side when you made your apt-get dist-upgrade. Does this happen if you install another package (not the nvidia one)? [21:03] <_Zeus_> nope [21:06] _Zeus_, this may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1011847 [21:06] it seems to be related at least [22:00] any clue on when alpha2 will be available? [22:02] you mean outside of what the release schedule says? [22:03] oh, it was supposed to be released yesterday. [22:04] anybody tried xfce 4.6 beta 2 yet ? [22:05] hey, hows alpha 2 you guys? :) [22:06] <_Zeus_> is it out yet? [22:07] ah damn dec 20th right? [22:07] so hows jaunty in general i didn't have the opportunity yet to check it out [22:17] and poof, alpha2 becomes available [22:21] pupolupilous: pardon me? [22:24] i was attempting to download 9.04 alpha2 , but it wasn't available yet, and then soon enough it showed up [22:26] <_Zeus_> DrHalan: Jaunty is fairly stable [22:26] <_Zeus_> *knock on wood* [22:28] :P [22:28] well it is just debian import atm i guess isn't it _Zeus_? [22:29] <_Zeus_> pretty much, yes, but that can get pretty hairy in itself [22:50] yeah sure cause it is from unstable [23:23] When I switch to virtual console 1 with Ctrl+Alt+F1, what might be causing an immediate switch back to virtual console 7? [23:25] andersk: No valid shells... you may not have 7 vt ... [23:26] It only happens sometimes. If I switch to console 1 twice, it almost always sticks the second time. [23:29] Same thing with 2 thru 6 as well? [23:30] I haven't tried. I'll get back to you on that. [23:31] Yes. I just reproduced it with 7 -> 2. [23:54] andersk: Happens to me too. [23:54] And then if I hit ctrl-c.... the X server ITSELF gets the SIGINT... and quits. [23:55] consolekit. [23:56] Ah. This is bug 271962. Thanks. [23:56] Launchpad bug 271962 in consolekit "VT-switching from X returns you to X the first time" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/271962 [23:59] Oh yeah, I did figure out why I kept getting fglrx hanging with "ASIC hang happened" -- my GPU is defective. [23:59] I'm sending the laptop in to HP to get it fixed.