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dilomothorwil: here's what I did today. What do you think?14:38
dilomohttp://www.piccdrop.com/images/1229697487.png14:38
thorwildilomo: good. the edges seem a little hard, though14:42
dilomothe round edges or the lines that are etched in14:44
dilomoI used a top-bottom gradient for the black so that it look more 3D14:45
thorwilboth14:46
dilomothorwil: how can I fix this? Currently I use Inkscape to draw the buttons at 48x48px and outpu them at 24x24px. If I use 100 dpi the result is the same.14:50
thorwil100 dpi is your native resolution?14:51
thorwilanyway, exporting to anything but 1:1 can't be good14:51
dilomowhat do you mean by native res14:52
thorwilthe dpi or your screen14:53
thorwilhere, inkscape assumes it's 90 dpi14:54
thorwilif you select a rectangle that is 100 px wide, the dpi in the export dialog has to be adjusted such that the export will also be 100 px wide14:55
dilomothe dpi is 96 but for the fonts I think. For the screen ... should be the same or 90 as you suggested.14:55
dilomothen if I have 24px image I shiuld use 24px?14:56
dilomo24dpi*14:56
thorwilno14:56
dilomooh my mistake14:57
thorwildilomo: draw a rectangle, make it 100px wide14:57
thorwilmake sure it is selected, hit ctrl-shift-e14:58
_MMA_thorwil: I just exported a 100x100 square just fine @ 90dpi.14:58
_MMA_Came out 100x10014:58
thorwil_MMA_: i guess 90dpi is a fixed inkscape assumption14:58
thorwilwhich means that 100 dpi will lead to ... crap :)14:58
dilomoI did it and my inkscape is exporting at 57px = 51 dpi14:59
thorwildilomo: with dpi at what?14:59
dilomowhy crap14:59
_MMA_Im sure there's a reason. I usually save things at 72dpi but it messes up the res. I should ask Ted or Bryce about this.14:59
dilomomost of the images of new wave are done at 45doi14:59
dilomodpi*14:59
dilomoand the largest and more complex things are exported at 90dpi15:00
thorwildilomo: if you have a 1px strong line, it will only result in a sharp 1 px line with a 1:1 resolution15:01
dilomoyes15:02
thorwilso make sure on export that 100 px in the drawing result in 100 px!15:03
dilomoI did the test and it does it correctly15:03
dilomo thorwil: but probably I should change the resolution of the drawing in incscape. My mistake was that I manually adjusted the height of the drawing to 24px and the dpi goes to 51. So If I want 24px output I should draw in 24x24px page?15:05
thorwildilomo: page size doesn't matter15:06
dilomobut at 90dpi the X button has the same rough edges15:06
thorwil*shrug*15:07
dilomoso you bot like the form and the position of the buttons. I can smooth them in gimp15:22
dilomobye15:52
dilomothorwil: hi16:51
thorwildilomo: welcome back16:51
dilomothorwil: I've made the prelight :16:51
dilomohttp://www.piccdrop.com/images/1229705418.png16:51
dilomoand the pressed states of the X button:16:52
dilomohttp://www.piccdrop.com/images/1229705549.png16:52
thorwildilomo: needs a little bleed and should perhaps include the symbol16:52
dilomoyou mean brighter red?16:53
thorwildilomo: maybe a little. what i actually meant was a little bit of red on the rounded edge16:54
dilomoAham you mean using AO16:55
thorwilnot quite16:55
thorwildilomo: if you imagine this as physical object, there are 2 different effects that come to mind16:56
thorwildilomo: the first would be bounced light that shines on the rounded edge16:56
thorwildilomo: the other is the "aura" that light can have if the eye or a camera can't quite handle it16:57
dilomoyeah but thea aura is not possible with these images I made16:58
dilomoso I guess the first thing is the only option16:58
thorwilhttp://www.krunker.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/WindowsLiveWriter/CustomizedbacklitkeyswiththeLuxiiumLUXEE_F339/Luxeed_3_jpg%5B2%5D1.jpg17:02
thorwilhttp://www.orangeinks.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/mac2.JPG17:02
thorwildilomo: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/164/427776101_144ac52117.jpg?v=017:02
dilomothat's interesting but a red X would be too much. I like the apple keyboard but making everything with white glow is not very good17:05
thorwildilomo: look beyond the color or lack of it. you see the effect i mentioned :)17:06
dilomothorwil: I understand it but how is the X going to look when the button is pressed17:07
thorwildilomo: a little bit brighter17:07
dilomoon the image I showed the light is coming from above the button not below17:07
thorwildilomo: the red is magic then?17:09
dilomo:D17:10
dilomoI think that the X should remain white but with red glow17:11
dilomothorwil:  btw wouldn't it be better if I make it simplier. Just make the prelight lighter but wit the same etched in effect.17:18
thorwildilomo: no, you should have singing angels fly around the button!!17:19
dilomoc'mon man why are you joking?17:20
thorwildilomo: what are you doing for normal buttons?17:22
dilomothorwil: nothing. What should I be doing.17:23
dilomothey look like the max/min on the picture I showed17:24
thorwildilomo: consider to do the same for prelight for both normal and wm buttons17:24
dilomoI will do them as already started. That's final. These buttons are not like the normal buttons thus they should differ17:26
dilomobbl17:32
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tretleI read somewhere that packagekit would be the default for kubuntu jaunty, will it be the default for ubuntu jaunty too?20:27
_MMA_tretle: #ubuntu+1 would be a better channel to ask in.20:29
tretlejeeze thought I posted that in #ubuntu+1 lol :D20:30
_MMA_:P20:31
tretlewould rock if it did become default though, one of my favorite features of packagekit is packagekit-gstreamer which allows any gstreamer app to notify, search and install codecs without having to patch the actual app.. works with banshee, firefox, rhythmbox totem etc.20:42
tretlethuough banshee wont run properly unless you have gstreamer-good,bad and ugly but thats just a dependency issue20:43
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_MMA_Cool GIMP brushes. http://hawksmont.com/blog/category/graphic_design/resources/gimp_brushes23:15

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