[14:38] thorwil: here's what I did today. What do you think? [14:38] http://www.piccdrop.com/images/1229697487.png [14:42] dilomo: good. the edges seem a little hard, though [14:44] the round edges or the lines that are etched in [14:45] I used a top-bottom gradient for the black so that it look more 3D [14:46] both [14:50] thorwil: how can I fix this? Currently I use Inkscape to draw the buttons at 48x48px and outpu them at 24x24px. If I use 100 dpi the result is the same. [14:51] 100 dpi is your native resolution? [14:51] anyway, exporting to anything but 1:1 can't be good [14:52] what do you mean by native res [14:53] the dpi or your screen [14:54] here, inkscape assumes it's 90 dpi [14:55] if you select a rectangle that is 100 px wide, the dpi in the export dialog has to be adjusted such that the export will also be 100 px wide [14:55] the dpi is 96 but for the fonts I think. For the screen ... should be the same or 90 as you suggested. [14:56] then if I have 24px image I shiuld use 24px? [14:56] 24dpi* [14:56] no [14:57] oh my mistake [14:57] dilomo: draw a rectangle, make it 100px wide [14:58] make sure it is selected, hit ctrl-shift-e [14:58] <_MMA_> thorwil: I just exported a 100x100 square just fine @ 90dpi. [14:58] <_MMA_> Came out 100x100 [14:58] _MMA_: i guess 90dpi is a fixed inkscape assumption [14:58] which means that 100 dpi will lead to ... crap :) [14:59] I did it and my inkscape is exporting at 57px = 51 dpi [14:59] dilomo: with dpi at what? [14:59] why crap [14:59] <_MMA_> Im sure there's a reason. I usually save things at 72dpi but it messes up the res. I should ask Ted or Bryce about this. [14:59] most of the images of new wave are done at 45doi [14:59] dpi* [15:00] and the largest and more complex things are exported at 90dpi [15:01] dilomo: if you have a 1px strong line, it will only result in a sharp 1 px line with a 1:1 resolution [15:02] yes [15:03] so make sure on export that 100 px in the drawing result in 100 px! [15:03] I did the test and it does it correctly [15:05] thorwil: but probably I should change the resolution of the drawing in incscape. My mistake was that I manually adjusted the height of the drawing to 24px and the dpi goes to 51. So If I want 24px output I should draw in 24x24px page? [15:06] dilomo: page size doesn't matter [15:06] but at 90dpi the X button has the same rough edges [15:07] *shrug* [15:22] so you bot like the form and the position of the buttons. I can smooth them in gimp [15:52] bye [16:51] thorwil: hi [16:51] dilomo: welcome back [16:51] thorwil: I've made the prelight : [16:51] http://www.piccdrop.com/images/1229705418.png [16:52] and the pressed states of the X button: [16:52] http://www.piccdrop.com/images/1229705549.png [16:52] dilomo: needs a little bleed and should perhaps include the symbol [16:53] you mean brighter red? [16:54] dilomo: maybe a little. what i actually meant was a little bit of red on the rounded edge [16:55] Aham you mean using AO [16:55] not quite [16:56] dilomo: if you imagine this as physical object, there are 2 different effects that come to mind [16:56] dilomo: the first would be bounced light that shines on the rounded edge [16:57] dilomo: the other is the "aura" that light can have if the eye or a camera can't quite handle it [16:58] yeah but thea aura is not possible with these images I made [16:58] so I guess the first thing is the only option [17:02] http://www.krunker.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/WindowsLiveWriter/CustomizedbacklitkeyswiththeLuxiiumLUXEE_F339/Luxeed_3_jpg%5B2%5D1.jpg [17:02] http://www.orangeinks.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/mac2.JPG [17:02] dilomo: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/164/427776101_144ac52117.jpg?v=0 [17:05] that's interesting but a red X would be too much. I like the apple keyboard but making everything with white glow is not very good [17:06] dilomo: look beyond the color or lack of it. you see the effect i mentioned :) [17:07] thorwil: I understand it but how is the X going to look when the button is pressed [17:07] dilomo: a little bit brighter [17:07] on the image I showed the light is coming from above the button not below [17:09] dilomo: the red is magic then? [17:10] :D [17:11] I think that the X should remain white but with red glow [17:18] thorwil: btw wouldn't it be better if I make it simplier. Just make the prelight lighter but wit the same etched in effect. [17:19] dilomo: no, you should have singing angels fly around the button!! [17:20] c'mon man why are you joking? [17:22] dilomo: what are you doing for normal buttons? [17:23] thorwil: nothing. What should I be doing. [17:24] they look like the max/min on the picture I showed [17:24] dilomo: consider to do the same for prelight for both normal and wm buttons [17:26] I will do them as already started. That's final. These buttons are not like the normal buttons thus they should differ [17:32] bbl === _MMA_ is now known as MetalMusicAddict === MetalMusicAddict is now known as _MMA_ [20:27] I read somewhere that packagekit would be the default for kubuntu jaunty, will it be the default for ubuntu jaunty too? [20:29] <_MMA_> tretle: #ubuntu+1 would be a better channel to ask in. [20:30] jeeze thought I posted that in #ubuntu+1 lol :D [20:31] <_MMA_> :P [20:42] would rock if it did become default though, one of my favorite features of packagekit is packagekit-gstreamer which allows any gstreamer app to notify, search and install codecs without having to patch the actual app.. works with banshee, firefox, rhythmbox totem etc. [20:43] thuough banshee wont run properly unless you have gstreamer-good,bad and ugly but thats just a dependency issue === tretle_ is now known as tretle [23:15] <_MMA_> Cool GIMP brushes. http://hawksmont.com/blog/category/graphic_design/resources/gimp_brushes