[01:45] <CarlFK> can I anna-install python into the installer env?
[02:49] <kirkland> CarlFK: often, you have to append -udeb to anna-install'd stuff
[02:49] <kirkland> in my experience
[02:51] <CarlFK> yeah - python-udeb "not found"
[02:51] <CarlFK> im guessing all the included modules might be a problem
[02:52] <CarlFK> hmm.. they could all live in zip files... maybe even one big zip file.
[09:37] <cjwatson> CarlFK: no, it isn't packaged as a udeb; adding -udeb won't help you when it doesn't exist. :-) You can try 'udpkg -i /cdrom/pool/main/p/python2.5/python2.5-minimal_*.deb' and that *might* work ...
[09:37] <cjwatson> CarlFK: I don't see what a zip file could conceivably have to do with anything
[09:38] <CarlFK> cjwatson: zip to keep the memory footprint small
[09:38] <cjwatson> pointless
[09:39] <cjwatson> (a) debs are already compressed (b) once installed it needs to be uncompressed so that python can use it
[09:39] <cjwatson> (c) installing python in the installer is an insanely minority use case anywya
[09:40] <CarlFK> python can read modules from zips, so only the things being used would get decompressed
[09:40] <CarlFK> I didn't say it was a good idea :)
[09:42] <cjwatson> would be very very slow ...
[09:43] <CarlFK> I converted my late_command shell script to python so that I could run it after the fact with some command line parameters
[09:43] <cjwatson> you can do that with shell scripts too ...
[09:43] <CarlFK> but now I have 2 scripts that do the same thing.  was trying to fiugre out if I could get rid of the shell one
[09:44] <CarlFK> yeah, the python version turned out to be a pretty bad idea
[09:46] <CarlFK> touching /etc/..gdm.conf needs sudo, but then touching some /home/user files leave root:root perms that I needed to reset.. it was a learning experience
[09:55] <tjaalton> cjwatson: hw-detect/disk-detect.sh tries to modprobe dm-emc if multipath is used, but that module has gone since 2.6.27. ok to fix in bzr?
[09:55] <tjaalton> (the installer just asks for module options and continues if left blank)
[09:56] <cjwatson> tjaalton: sure
[10:19] <tjaalton> hope I got it right
[10:55] <xivulon> evand can you have a quick look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1015752
[11:52] <davmor2> cjwatson: is there away to access the log files on a live cd with no access to virtual terminals?
[11:55] <cjwatson> not really ...
[11:57] <davmor2> cjwatson: I'm just think what would happen if I try to run the install from the start menu I'll give it a try and see
[11:59] <davmor2> no
[12:00] <davmor2> just a black screen now.
[12:01] <davmor2> Although I notice that I got alt-ctrl-f2 while usplash was running so I'll see if if throws up any errors during standard boot
[12:06] <davmor2> cjwatson: Yay I got a terminal :)
[12:06] <davmor2> cjwatson: which is the best log files for the live desktop is it just /var/syslog ?
[12:07] <cjwatson> /var/log/installer/syslog /var/log/installer/debug
[12:07] <cjwatson> assuming you tried starting the installer and it failed
[12:08] <davmor2> cjwatson: no the screenshot is the live desktop not installed.
[12:15] <cjwatson> oh so you're saying that the problem is that the desktop doesn't start at all, not that the installer fails?
[12:15] <cjwatson> not really something for this channel then ...
[12:16] <davmor2> that's what was confusing me
[12:35] <CIA-61> tzsetup: cjwatson * r496 ubuntu/debian/control: set Maintainer and Vcs-Bzr for Ubuntu
[14:03] <evand> xivulon: the problem was that the checksumming of the file copy failed
[14:03] <evand> you could preseed that away, but then you'd lose checksumming
[14:29] <xivulon> evand I saw that but why would that normally happen? is it because the copy operation produced a bogus copy?
[14:29] <evand> any number of reasons can lead to a bad file copy
[14:29] <evand> but that was the end result
[14:29] <xivulon> well in this case then failing is the right thing to do I guess
[14:29] <evand> the copied file didn't match the file on the source medium
[14:30] <evand> I think so, until we can come up with a better way of handling such errors.
[21:52] <CIA-61> oem-config: cjwatson * r567 debconf-ui/lib/frontend/base.py: remove some detritus left over from ubiquity
[21:52] <CIA-61> oem-config: cjwatson * r568 debconf-ui/lib/filteredcommand.py: command -> self.command
[22:01] <CIA-61> oem-config: cjwatson * r569 debconf-ui/oem-config-firstboot: reset passwd/user-fullname and passwd/username too