[00:05] LjL: Who was [c0re] ? [00:25] jpds: any reason why ubot5 doesn't respond in -uk ? :-) [00:26] Nafallo: where does it respond? [00:26] thanks PriceChild :-) [00:26] ehrm. not sure. [00:27] I can't get it to respond. [00:27] Its been idle some time. [00:27] at all :-/ [00:27] just poked it in -irc without response [00:28] so yea. that's my little bugreport... do I need to file it elsewhere? :-) [00:30] probably just needs restarting :( [00:32] But alas, I have no magic button for that one. [00:33] jpds: ^-- :-) === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [01:36] PriceChild: c0re was someone i've had on highlight for a while. i don't honestly know or remember why bazhang banned him from #ubuntu, but what he said *about* bazhang in #ubuntu-offtopic was definitely more than enough to ban him there. [01:37] [c0re]? ugh. [01:37] Good evening. [01:37] I saw he was in #freenode earlier asking for a kline [01:37] bazhang: yes, he went mad [01:38] hehe [01:38] although i found it weird because another person did the same scene with me recently (going to #fn and asking to be k-lined) after i had refused to unban them [01:39] You just have that effect on people. [01:39] LjL, he said that? literally? 'I went mad' ? [01:39] bazhang: err? no [01:39] i'm saying that [01:39] aww [01:40] but damn, who was the other one [01:41] i don't really think they're the same person because i remember c0re being around for a while [01:41] but it gets on my nerves that i can't remember it [01:41] oh, duh [01:41] just jnelson of course [01:42] [03:34] Can someone kline me permantly please i dont want to be part of Freenode anymore [01:42] [03:34] and i will just be tempted to troll again [01:43] who said that december 7 [01:44] c0re first appeared much earlier, so not him. [02:29] jpds: I had to kill the bot again :( [04:35] HI Rofl. [05:37] AlbertVaginstien is the troll from earlier in Ubuntu offtopic [05:39] in #ubuntu-offtopic there's AlbertVaginstein and he's well...first, i think "vagin" is probably meant to be inappropriate, and second, he's kinda flooding and injecting nonsense to disrupt conversation [05:42] DrDerek, maco: tried calling ops? may get more attention than just saying here [05:42] well, they left anyway now [06:17] * [AlbertVaginstein] (i=jjjh@21Cust77.tnt1.calgary.ab.da.uu.net): fuckyou [06:18] perhaps two new part-timer operators in -ot are not enough ^^ [06:30] spree how may we help you [06:31] I would like to complain about the user lucent in ##ubuntu, he's doing nothing but trolling and inane babbling, and he's been told about #ubuntu-offtopic. This is a game for him. [06:31] i'm just asking you monitor it. Thanks. [06:32] spree, noted, thanks [06:32] ok. [06:35] @mark lucent repeatedly warned about offtopic #ubuntu [06:35] The operation succeeded. [06:37] was there a point to that mark? [06:38] yes; we have been encouraged to mark problematic individuals [06:38] but, /remove already adds an entry [06:38] okay I will add in bttracker [06:38] and you just added a 100 line log for #ubuntu-ops ;) [06:38] :/ [06:39] I have to step out for a bit [06:39] dongs merits removal? [06:40] he's acting up, getting progressively worse [06:40] and not listening to any advice given [06:40] yep, but then again lucent is back [06:45] * compuman23 (n=compuman@athedsl-4542840.home.otenet.gr) has joined #ubuntu sken's latest [08:23] fryguy [08:39] asked to stop with offtopic text editor chat/argument, responds by redirecting all questions to other channels, as '80% of questions are now offtopic' [08:42] lengthy PM where he refuses to acknowledge that the two are not analogous [08:42] :/ [09:13] why would unmuting fryguy remove the ban on greektux!*!@*.home.otenet.gr!#ubuntu-ops as well as his own mute? [09:15] ikonia, you about ^^ ? [09:18] yes [09:19] bazhang: so what's happened you removed a mute on freeguy and it removed greektux ? [09:19] made a rather significant whoopsie [09:19] sorry, not %100 following the question [09:19] ooh the ! [09:19] ikonia, yep [09:19] have you removed it ? [09:19] must have been the chanserv script I use for xchat [09:20] fixed it [09:20] my apologies ikonia [09:20] not at all [09:20] have to get off this darn script [09:20] apprciate the spotting [09:20] easy to make a typo [09:21] well considering that is sken, hard to miss [09:21] ;) [09:22] pleia2: Hmm, I'll check the logs. [09:35] Odd, nothing pelicular there. [09:37] ikonia, just to clarify 100%: I seem to have removed the redirect here for greektux!*!@*.home.otenet.gr!#ubuntu-ops [09:37] no sweat [09:37] k [09:37] he's not used that nick in a white so I don't see it as a big deal [09:37] I only left "catcher" forwards in place [09:37] probably good to remove a few no longer in use [09:37] will do [09:38] the championsleague etc [09:38] yup [10:16] Does anyone know when chinese new year is? [10:17] 1/26 [10:17] 26 Jan. [10:18] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_New_Year [10:18] Oh, that far away. :) thats good then. :) [10:18] :) [10:18] Actually went to Chinatown in San Fran. [10:19] Its fun trying to do business cross culturally, finding out holidays etc.:) [10:51] gizmo is not sure what he wants; also goes by name omzig asks random questions over last couple of days [10:51] I'm on him [11:00] smallfoot in +1 [11:02] not taking that [11:02] @bansearch smallfoot [11:02] No matches found for smallfoot!*@* in any channel [11:03] now why does that nick have a warning siren? [11:03] longtime trouble [11:06] @bansearch smallfoot- [11:06] No matches found for smallfoot-!*@* in any channel [11:07] thats weird, the bt has tons of entries for him [11:07] current [11:07] @search shows current [11:07] * ikonia waits for the bot [11:08] nope [11:08] @search [11:08] (I did search not bansearch) [11:09] search is for bot functions [11:09] yup [11:09] nearly 20 entries [11:09] but I was expecting the bot to say "I don't know antything about show" [11:09] hehe [11:10] ikonia: pm [11:13] unop called the ops in #ubuntu () [11:14] heads up in -ot [11:14] ughhhhh [11:14] jussi01: -ot please [11:15] topyli: LjL PriceChild nalioth jussi01 mneptok -ot please [11:15] gord called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (sparcio) [11:15] this is crazy [11:15] do I use the irc account ljl memo'd about to resolve this ? [11:15] I have no power in there yet [11:15] dbo thank you [11:15] me either [11:34] the new installment does already, yes? [11:35] * Flannel answers his own question. [13:19] @btlogin [13:25] -_- [13:29] ? [13:57] I've put a forward on a suer in #ubuntu I think is a bot [13:57] it should join here shortly and start complaining about being int eh cahnnel and not getting an answer [13:57] ksbalaji [13:57] noted. [13:57] just keeps repeating the same 2 lines over and over [13:59] bang on queue [13:59] que [13:59] let me guess you've been waiting in ubuntu for so long and not got an answer ? [13:59] you used to get an answer now your still here [13:59] Hi! Is this ubuntu help channel please? [14:01] no [14:01] ksbalaji: No, it is not. You have been forwarded to the operators channel because you keep repeating the same thing over and over in #ubuntu. [14:01] as well you know [14:02] ikonia, whew! ok now I am connected. [14:02] My friend did delete away a few unwanted fonts using adeptmanager. Having problems with SCIM, he uninstalled it. Now, his openoffice ceased to open, and ultimately ubuntu hardy does not boot beyond text prompt. Nautilus, or GDM does not work. Please advise so that I can help him [14:02] ksbalaji: this is not a support channel [14:03] ksbalaji: you where just repeating the same 2 lines over and over in #ubuntu therefore you have been removed from the channel and forwarded here to exaplin why ? [14:04] Oh sorry. But first I tried only my request. i seldom ask for help. I thought I was not at all connected to help channel. [14:04] you didn't think that [14:04] ksbalaji: 3 people responded to you [14:05] ksbalaji: you where warned 2 timws [14:05] ksbalaji: you where kicked once [14:05] ksbalaji: you came back and continued doing it [14:05] I also pm'd you [14:07] jpds: 20965 jpds 15 0 114m 20m 4328 S 100 5.7 147:17.74 supybot [14:07] sorry again. I don't understand what went wrong. I can paste what conversation took place in ubuntu channel then. will that be of help? Now to my actual request please. Do I repeat here or elsewhere? [14:07] again [14:08] pleia2: Evil... [14:08] ksbalaji: you don't understand what went wrong ? did you keep repeating the same lines in your irc client / [14:13] Now ikonia I am an elderly man not interested in disturbing others. Please see this if it could explain anything: http://pastebin.com/dd41342b [14:13] ksbalaji, this is not support [14:13] ksbalaji, post your comment, then hit the forums while you wait [14:14] bazhang, seems I have been blocked from ubuntu help channel. How do I get help / connect to ubuntu help channel please? [14:15] ksbalaji, you were forwarded here for repeating your comments and not listening to what was said to you. [14:16] ksbalaji: What IRC client are you using? [14:16] ksbalaji, you need to NOT flood the channel with repeated questions in a short time; ask once then visit the ubuntuforums while you wait for a response [14:17] bazhang, ikonia: his logs show that he didn't see any replies from anyone. [14:17] Pici, I used /use XChat without trouble. [14:17] ksbalaji, do you understand what is being said to you? [14:17] Pici you got it. Now sorry if my repeats irritated the channel. [14:17] ksbalaji: Can you check your ignore list to make sure that you aren't ignoring anyone please. [14:18] Pici, okay [14:18] Pici, I do not ignore anybody. [14:20] ksbalaji that log is VERY odd, you can see everyone talking except me [14:20] ksbalaji: Then you need to check your connection or use a different IRC client, because it appears to us that you are repeating your questions without heeding the replies sent to you. [14:20] but you can see me talking, but only the parts where I am not warning you to stop [14:20] ikonia: I see you on the log. [14:20] ikonia: er, right. [14:21] Pici: few of my warning lines missing [14:21] the fact that some of the warning messages came through and he kept going is not really acceptable [14:24] OK. I am getting out of here now to do a fresh login. Now see this I am typing about logging out and only now you post a message - the fact that some of the warning messages came through and he kept going is not really acceptable - [14:25] er [14:25] ??? [14:31] ikonia, gone thru the pasetbin? satisfied? can I get some help for my friend? [14:31] ksbalaji: I went thorugh the pastebin and expressed my concern [14:31] I also find it odd that you kept repeating until you where banned and forwarded to this channel, then all of a sudden you started speaking [14:34] ikonia, When one does not get a response for his requests or when the channel seems to be dead, what do you expect him to do other than what I have done? Probably you may see from your own sequence that I waited long enough after my initial request to type in whether i was logged in! [14:35] ksbalaji your logs clearly show people responding to you, including myself saying "if you do not ask a quetion you will be banned" yet you kept repeating [14:41] ikonia, you are right - i find this line in my own copy. But visualize a situation when I started looking back into the conversation to see what has happened. I cannot see anything when I see back into the conversation. Then the thing starts sending messages! - I just copied what was there. Now, You know something better. Can you explaing what went wrong when the whole thing went bad? - You might have noticed that the second I saw your message, I r [14:41] egretted my repeated requests reaching you, but not your replies. [14:43] ksbalaji I appriciate you say you where having connection problems. but 3 people responded to you, I removed you from the channel once, I sent you pm's, I then warned you a final time, I then removed you and banned you, and STILL got no response, I put a forward to in here, and you all of a suddent come to life [14:44] you can't have missed all the people and my warnings, and my kicks, and the pm's [14:52] Now, ikonia - I have not received your pm! please check up. Ofcourse, your final message reached me, only a bit late while I was taking a look back wondering what went wrong. Now, I can quit the place without getting a reply for my original request. I now only feel that urgently need to convince you about what had happend - but know not how other than asking you to go through the pastebin carefully again. http://pastebin.com/dd41342b Where I have s [14:52] topped repeats after your final warning reached me. [14:55] ksbalaji: "your bot is now banned" was a pm and not said in the channel [14:55] ksbalaji: I'm not convined your logs are genuine [14:59] I am sorry again ikonia , I have no other explanation. Only time and experience can explain to you. Do you really thing anyone not really genuine and not getting his original requests answered will keep convincing wasting his / your time ? [14:59] you'd be surprised [15:00] ksbalaji: if your logs showed nothing from me other the others I'd be more inclined to believe your intention, however as your logs clearly show me and others both asking you to ask your question and warning you you will be banned, and also shows part of my pm's to you, that you seem to show as parto f the main channels conversation does not seem right to me [15:00] what irc client are you using ? [15:03] Now ikonia it is XChat.- dont you feel that you keep asking this question again since I already have told about this? - This question is to let you grip things about human nature. [15:04] I didn't see what client you where using, I apologise [15:04] xchat won't paste pm's as part of the main chat as far as I'm aware, I don't know if any of the others who use xchat could confirm this [15:05] bazhang: I had warned him previously. [15:05] np - I am an elderly person again. Instead of arguing here, may I please get an answer for my initial question? [15:05] I'm sorry no [15:05] this channel isnot a support channel [15:06] v0id yeah I saw Pici [15:07] ikonia, don't I need you to lift the ban to go back to ubuntu help channel? - If so, I request you to let me go on to ubuntu channel [15:08] ksbalaji: one moment please [15:10] ksbalaji: if you give me a minute I'll lift the ban in #ubuntu for you on the condition that you pay attention to what is being said to you in the chanel and you don't keep repeating the same thing over and over again [15:10] ikonia, thanks. [15:11] ksbalaji: ok, yo umay now leave here and rejoin #ubuntu [15:11] ikonia, i seldom kept repeating in ubuntu channel - I never intend to either. I insist please. [15:11] you may now leave here and rejoin #ubuntu [15:16] main channel is turning into general computer knowledge channel [15:16] no it's not [15:17] putting a stop to the windows chat now [15:17] bazhang: not happy with it either [15:17] my favorite reason for discussing non-ubuntu related was 'I have an ubuntu system on my other computer' [15:17] ha [15:18] :) [15:19] Pici: he's not asked his question yet, which considering it was urgent is a bit odd [15:20] oh wait, he has [15:20] my mistake [15:22] What's the irssi command to list the users in a channel? [15:23] jpds: /names [15:23] Ah, I was trying /nicks, /users, etc. [15:23] jpds: Did you see the message above from pleia2? [15:23] Pici: Yeah, we killed the bot in the end. [15:23] jpds: Okay, good. [15:28] Hi all [15:28] Howdy :) [15:36] More snow to shovel. /away [15:37] genii: how much snow do you have / [15:49] Screw it, it's coming down as fast as I shovel it. I'll wait a while [15:50] ikonia: Right now about 6 inches. The area I have to keep clear is about 10 feet by 150 feet [15:50] wow [15:57] jpds: what do you mean by "that code looks familiar" [16:01] * genii hands Myrtti a coffee [16:03] O HAI [16:04] Hey Myrtti :) [16:06] * Myrtti huggles nickspoon, topyli [16:06] * nickspoon huggles Myrtti [16:08] anything in the news that I haven't heard of? [16:10] yes, no, perhaps, youdontwanttoknow, here's a lollipop, AARRRGGH? [16:10] * genii reads the "AARRRGGH" newsfeed, it sounds intriguing.... [16:12] Myrtti: Welcome back! [16:12] status report on -ot, is it still a mad house? [16:12] As mad as ever :D [16:12] Myrtti: How was your hiatus? [16:13] Pici: if I were back, I'd be using irssi instead of xchat [16:13] and I'd be on a lot more channels too [16:14] Myrtti: Okay, I won't tell :P [16:16] Pici, I just came in to check if there's bans or anything that need my attention [16:16] @login [16:16] The operation succeeded. [16:16] urhm. [16:17] Myrtti: Nothing special going on. [16:19] excellent [16:20] in my absence you're free to take off any bans that seem to have served their purpose :-) but you knew that already [16:20] Indeedy [16:21] just making sure :-) [16:24] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfReGE5VNDM&fmt=18 lol [16:33] anyway, I just bought a stereo A2DP headset, so I'm off to knitting Christmas presents and lounging listening to music. Take care kids. [16:33] o [16:33] bye [18:03] I'm getting tired of fde he wants to pick holes in everythig for no reason to the detriment of users [18:03] getting quite frustrating [18:06] PriceChild: elkbuntu, boredandblogging, nalioth, please check email. :) [20:18] Oh for petes sake! My wife just washed both my N95 AND my ipod touch :/ [20:27] jussi01: ouch. [20:30] jussi01: insured? [20:31] Gary: nope [20:32] not even via home & contents? [20:32] gary, thing is they were both owned by the company.. [20:32] Gary: I rent. no contents insurance [20:33] oh, ouch [20:33] so Im hoping they were insured [20:33] hope the company are nice (and insured) [20:33] I know my work kit is all either insured or the co replace at no issue [20:34] Im pretty sure they are insured. [20:40] Im just hoping they work when they dry out [20:53] I know the touch has a water sensor inside [20:53] and I think nokia will have fitted one too [21:01] the !newusers factoid gives info for new users, but would it be possible to have it linked to !new as well? [21:02] !new [21:02] Sorry, I don't know anything about new [21:02] !newusers [21:02] documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com [21:02] !new is newusers [21:02] I'll remember that, jussi01 [21:02] !new [21:03] !new [21:03] silly bot [21:03] it works, thanks hischild [21:03] thank you jussi01 [21:03] jussi01, you have time for something else? [21:03] hischild: ask! [21:04] fryguy and someone else were talking about comparing windows and ubuntu with each other. From my understand, that is offtopic for #ubuntu as it is not a support question. I asked them to take that discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, after which fryguy pm'd me. [21:05] right. and then? [21:05] he told me that if i'm the administrator of a channel i always have to take PM's and started to talk in such a way it was not a conversation anymore. I told him to take it to offtopic, after which he said he wouldn't do that, would take it back to the main channel and ignore me. [21:05] Was i correct in my actions? [21:07] I have the logfiles of the PM conv, which i can send to you should you wish to. [21:07] from what youve just told me it sounds fine, although a quick word in here would probably be a good idea. Be gentle with your words and refer him to an op if it gets out of hand. [21:08] he has ignored me most likely, so i can't refer him to here. The conversation in PM was 6 lines, 4 of which here his. [21:09] hischild: there comes a point with some users where you need to take their abuse and just ignore the fact they are rude, and treat them with politeness regardless of how they act. [21:11] That is true indeed. I just wish to know if my actions were right in this case and get advice on how to treat a situation like this better the next time it occurs. [21:12] hischild: you sound fine, just have to remember some people forget how to be polite on occaision. [21:12] anyways, I got to run. Talk later [21:12] will do. Tnx [21:14] jussi01: I'll speak to fryguy, he's been a bit of an on-off problem all day and I've had words with him, so I'll pick it up with him [21:19] ikonia: back now, thanks. :) [21:22] Yeah i'm back again. Could someone please tell me if it's just me, or if fryguy is just being an ass towards me? Telling someone who is new to ubuntu to screw around in their /etc/fstab seems rather ... unconventional to say the least. [21:22] hischild: I'm talking to him [21:23] ikonia, thank you. [21:23] its fine to offer him to edit fstab, however if the user is not confident you've got to take responsability to guide him through it [21:23] hischild: but i appriciate his tone is a bit agressive and I'm talking to him about it, so please ignore it [21:24] I understand and I will. Thanks ikonia. [21:26] Also, this is the right channel to come to with these issues, or should i go to a different channel? [21:28] any concerns like that, this is the right place [21:29] And i am still supposed to leave this channel? I seem to be joining and leaving quite a bit. [21:30] please [21:30] very well [21:30] * hischild waves you all a happy morning/afternoon/evening/goodnight (make your choice) and the best of luck and all that. [22:00] ompaul called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (anti_freezenode can someone turn this mibbit user off please) [22:01] I can't do anything ? [22:01] anyone else awake [22:01] ahh t was [22:01] lurking [22:04] * genii staggers in with a snowshovel and pours a round of coffees [22:05] genii: one of these days I'll sample your coffee [22:05] ikonia: Always a nice strong blend but never bitter :) [22:07] By my rough calcs I've moved 4,500 square feet of snow today [22:09] nini all [22:09] jussi01: Night [22:09] * jussi01 waves and heads out [22:16] Back later. [23:11] * genii sips [23:30] /ping genii [23:30] bah [23:55] * genii sips [23:56] Ghosted. I wanted to blame Quassel but it turned out to be my internal wifi card cutting out.