[00:00] <arbir> onetinsoldier: no.. i only want one working version
[00:00] <arbir> onetinsoldier: rest can goto the trash for all i care
[00:00] <raylu> white-sheep: it sounds like what you want is to mount /home with NFS. if the laptop is ever unable to connect ot the desktop, though, you're screwed
[00:00] <raylu> *to
[00:00] <meekatron> ASULutzy: got it sorted it was the router. dumb thing there was a option in security tab to open ports which didnt work.. but then i found a sub section in the virtualserver menu which had port forwarding in it, and that sorted it..
[00:00] <white-sheep> raylu -- Not mounting -- Sync.
[00:01] <white-sheep> eseven73 -- I don't want to create disc then install on the laptop -- I want to know if syncing is possible.
[00:01] <raylu> white-sheep: right... look into rsync, i guess
[00:01] <arbir> onetinsoldier: does this new kernel have ext4 support
[00:01] <eseven73> white-sheep: Rsync or Unison then
[00:01] <Anarchy> Hi, im need to recompile PHP5 im on ubuntu 8.04 LAMP, can anyone give me a link or something on how this is done??
[00:01] <raylu> Anarchy: very painfully
[00:01] <white-sheep> Okay.  Will give it a try -- Thank raylu + eseven73 + Phaedrus2
[00:01] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok, then  dpkg --purge them...   dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic  ..tell me if that runs ok
[00:01] <Anarchy> so i hear lol
[00:02] <raylu> Anarchy: any reason why you need to recompile?
[00:02] <eseven73> Luckily theres a GUI for Unison and Rsync, just look in the repos for Grsync and Unison-GKT or something like that
[00:02] <Anarchy> to add some encryption functions
[00:02] <eseven73> you're welcome white-sheep
[00:02] <raylu> Anarchy: download the modules from the repository
[00:02] <loca|host> i have a USB Wifi dongle wich takes wlan0 interface name everytime i plug it to my USB connector, i need to run a triggred script when that dongle (and only that) is plugged, anyone know how ?
[00:02] <arbir> onetinsoldier:  from the same directory >
[00:02] <arbir> ?
[00:02] <alaska> I burned Intrepid to a CD the same way I did for Hardy and when I restart my computer I still get the grub menu.
[00:02] <Anarchy> mcrypt
[00:02] <Ltl> lordapex2: 32 bit has a limit, that subject is beyond me. google has a ton of info though.
[00:03] <onetinsoldier> arbir: doesn' even matter what directory you are in at all for that command
[00:03] <arbir> onetinsoldier: its showing me error
[00:03] <raylu> loca|host: i think "man interfaces" will start you off
[00:03] <Anarchy> ok
[00:03] <onetinsoldier> arbir: i 'think' the newer kernels have etx4 support
[00:03] <raylu> Anarchy: that's definitely in the repositories
[00:03] <arbir> onetinsoldier: http://paste.ubuntu.com/88133/
[00:03] <Anarchy> right i have downloaded it
[00:04] <onetinsoldier> arbir: i'm not sure. i know the latest beta 2.6.28 ones do
[00:04] <raylu> Anarchy: restart your httpd
[00:04] <arbir> onetinsoldier: the machine is asking me to reboot
[00:04] <loca|host> raylu, ok i know those if-up if-post-up ... triggers, what i meant is to detect a specific device to run a trigger on, not an interface, things shall be done using udev as i'm googling, so just orient me if am wrong ...
[00:04] <Anarchy> and restarted apache no love
[00:04] <onetinsoldier> arbir: don't do it yet
[00:04] <raylu> Anarchy: how did you download it?
[00:04] <arbir> onetinsoldier: aright...
[00:04] <Anarchy> apt-get
[00:05] <rvirding> I am running a dual boot ubuntu 8.10 on a DELL XPS M1330 laptop and have what I hope is a simple question: Soon after I boot ubuntu the fan starts going at full speed and basically doesn't stop until I turn the machine off. This is irrespective of what I am doing. The 1330 is a nice machine but the fan is irritating. On windows the fan follows the work load on the machine. How and where do I...
[00:05] <rvirding> ...control this? I have not done any tuning so far. The fan is driving me nuts, but apart from that everything seems to work straight out of the box.
[00:05] <raylu> loca|host: pre-up is run only if the interface exists, i believe
[00:05] <raylu> Anarchy: what was the package name?
[00:05] <miles_> nvi
[00:05] <onetinsoldier> arbir: dpkg --purge dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-7-generic
[00:05] <Anarchy> raylu: one second plz
[00:05] <alaska> I burned Intrepid to a CD the same way I did for Hardy and when I restart my computer I still get the grub menu.
[00:05] <miles_> rvirding, what is your gaphic card? ATI?
[00:05] <kdogg> .
[00:05] <raylu> Anarchy: you're using apache2, right?
[00:05] <onetinsoldier> arbir: then show me the errors
[00:06] <Anarchy> raylu: yes
[00:06] <kdogg> .
[00:06] <loca|host> raylu, if i bring another wifi dongle, it can take the same interface name, and what if my script was designed to work with one hardware and not another ... (am turning my wifi interface into "master" mode, wich isnt supported by most of the devices)
[00:06] <onetinsoldier> arbir: sorry, i had typo'd there, as i'm hoping you can tell
[00:06] <rvirding> miles_: NVIDIA Geforce 8800M GS
[00:06] <Anarchy> raylu: libmcrypt-dev
[00:07] <raylu> Anarchy: um...that's not it :P
[00:07] <Anarchy> lol DUH!
[00:07] <LoveGuru> !apparmor > LoveGuru
[00:07] <lovre> does anyone have IEEE acount here?
[00:07] <raylu> Anarchy: php5-mcrypt
[00:08] <arbir> onetinsoldier: i made a mistake too!
[00:08] <arbir> onetinsoldier: http://paste.ubuntu.com/88137/
[00:08] <mike2001> i need help to reinstall windows Vista and ubuntu
[00:08] <raylu> loca|host: if you use another dongle, it should be wlan1 (i think)
[00:08] <alaska> OK I'll try a different approach. I'm re-downloading Intrepid. I'd like to burn the disc in Ubuntu instead of Windows. How might I do that?
[00:08] <Anarchy> raylu: ok imma restart apache
[00:09] <arbir> onetinsoldier: so, shall i restart now ?
[00:09] <radek> quit
[00:09] <onetinsoldier> arbir: no. do... dpkg -l linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-7-generic
[00:09] <rvirding> miles_: do you have any idea what it could be and how to fix it? Or where i can get more info?
[00:09] <raylu> arbir: you should look inside /lib/modules/...
[00:09] <onetinsoldier> arbir: do they show as uninstalled?
[00:10] <arbir> onetinsoldier: let me check
[00:10] <white-sheep> Does anybody know if unison2.13.16-gtk are good?
[00:10] <darnell> anyone know any good handwriting recognition software for ubuntu? maybe voice rec too?
[00:10] <Ltl> alaska: brasero at low speed, burn as image
[00:10] <arbir> onetinsoldier: http://paste.ubuntu.com/88138/
[00:10] <eseven73> white-sheep: if thats the one in the repos yep
[00:11]  * raylu thinks dpkg needs colors
[00:11] <raylu> and apt
[00:11]  * eseven73 agrees
[00:11] <white-sheep> eseven73 -- Can you be more specific -- If it's in sudo aptitude search, then yes it is?
[00:11]  * raylu <3s emerge's colors
[00:11] <arbir> raylu: whats inside /lib/modules/...
[00:11] <eseven73> aye white-sheep
[00:11] <mike2001> i need help with dual boot ubuntu and vista
[00:11] <raylu> arbir: dpkg - warning: while removing linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic, directory `/lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic' not empty so not removed.
[00:11] <alaska> ok Ltl, thank you.
[00:12] <white-sheep> Okay -- Got it -- Thx eseven73
[00:12] <raylu> !dualboot | mike2001
[00:12] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok, looks good. they're gone... now. i think the system is going to keep wanting/prompting you to install that kernel package that was giving you problems. take off the 'proposed updates' repo
[00:12] <eseven73> yw
[00:12] <mike2001> well i mean have both on computer and start either one
[00:12] <arbir> onetinsoldier: just doing that
[00:13] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok.. good. then reboot
[00:13] <mrpockets> hi
[00:13] <onetinsoldier> arbir: oh.. wait
[00:13] <arbir> onetinsoldier: ok waiting
[00:13] <onetinsoldier> did you take off the proposed updates repo?
[00:13] <mike2001> ty
[00:13] <onetinsoldier> arbir: did you take off the proposed updates repo?
[00:13] <mrpockets> anyone know of a song editing program?
[00:14] <mrpockets> all i relaly wanna do is pull a chunk out of this song and save it as an MP3 for a ringtone
[00:14] <raylu> mrpockets: audacity
[00:14] <arbir> onetinsoldier: yes i did
[00:14] <eseven73> white-sheep: and of course the first rsync or unison backup will take ages, but after that its very fast because its only updating newer files after the first go around. Kinda obvious, but i just wanted to let you know what to expect :)
[00:14] <darnell> anyone know any good handwriting recognition software for ubuntu? maybe voice rec too?
[00:14] <raylu> mrpockets: oh. that's probably overkill for what you want, but it'll do it
[00:14] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok, good! hang on
[00:14] <arbir> shall i also delete the directory --> /lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic
[00:14] <arbir> ?
[00:14] <arbir> onetinsoldier: shall i delete /lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic
[00:14] <arbir>  ?
[00:14] <onetinsoldier> arbir: yes
[00:14] <arbir> onetinsoldier: alright
[00:14] <arktvrvs> jeff_: im curious, how fast is your connection and how much do you pay?
[00:15] <raylu> onetinsoldier, arbir: it's nice to see what's in it first...
[00:15] <miles_> rvirding, no clue, sorry. I had the same problem with my laptop and it was because of the proprietary ATI drivers (faulty). No fixes, and my laptop actually had a short life because of this :/
[00:15] <n8tuser> arbir-> before you do, are you running the same 2.6.27-7-generic?
[00:15] <miles_> It was litterally burning inside
[00:15] <arbir> n8tuser: oh damn!
[00:15] <arbir> too late , i removed it
[00:15] <raylu> n8tuser: no, he just purged it
[00:15] <CAiRO> hi
[00:15] <n8tuser> arbir-> oh well, too late..
[00:15] <arbir> raylu: there was a file in it...... i know , just one file
[00:15] <arbir> onetinsoldier: allright, is it time to reboot ?
[00:16] <onetinsoldier> arbir: no, not yet
[00:16] <arbir> onetinsoldier: alright.. waiting
[00:16] <CAiRO> i've compiled my own kernel with PAE enalbed and everything works fine so far, except that the update manager always tries to overwrite my custom kernel packages
[00:16] <onetinsoldier> raylu: ok, i hear you
[00:16] <CAiRO> what could be the reason for that?
[00:16] <CAiRO> the packages from the repository arent any newer
[00:17] <templaedhel> HELP! windows doesn't get past the welcome to windows xp screen! I have no idea what to do, I think I screwed up partitons
[00:17] <rvirding> miles_: damn, macosx and freebsd had problems with network drivers so I was happy when ubuntu worked. Don't want to blow machine though. :-(
[00:17] <mike2001> ok if i installed ubuntu and my recovery disk dont work for vista
[00:17] <onetinsoldier> arbir: now, before rebooting, you could remove the -9 kernel you have too, you did seem to want to do that
[00:17] <tsrk> templaedhel, you might want to go to a windows support channel
[00:17] <mrpockets> raylu, this is perfect!
[00:17] <templaedhel> is there one on here freenode?
[00:17] <arbir> onetinsoldier: how do i do that >
[00:18] <raylu> mrpockets: while you have audacity, you might as well open a song and set it to play twice as fast. it's funny if you don't modify the pitch :D
[00:18] <eseven73> its ##windows
[00:18] <arbir> onetinsoldier: i can do that, after i boot into the latest kernel
[00:18] <tsrk> templaedhel, not sure, try #windows?
[00:18] <raylu> CAiRO: you have one of the linux-image virtual packages installed
[00:18] <miles_> rvirding, my laptop suffered form 80°C temps, maybe it's just the fans on your side
[00:18] <onetinsoldier> arbir: i'm not sure i have the name of this one right or not.. try dpkg --purge  linux-image-2.6.27-9-generic
[00:18] <arbir> miles_: bring it here , its -25 here
[00:19] <raylu> CAiRO: and i don't think it would *overwrite* the kernel. it should download it to a -generic folder
[00:19] <raylu> *directory
[00:19]  * raylu slaps self for saying folder
[00:19] <arbir> onetinsoldier: tell me a command to list all the available kernels
[00:19] <miles_> :)
[00:19] <mrpockets> yeah, I've used Adobe Audition and cake walk to do a lot of post process mixdowns for my band
[00:19] <rvirding> miles_: I think it's the fans as air coming out is cool, just wish it set fan to cpu load.
[00:19] <mrpockets> so i'm pretty familiar with the art
[00:19] <raylu> mrpockets: oh, nevermind then :(
[00:19] <mrpockets> lol
[00:19] <CAiRO> raylu: if i install the "update" of the kernel image it will overwrite my kernel
[00:19] <mrpockets> but it is fun :-p
[00:19] <tesseracter> is there a smaller channel for help with Network Manager Applet? or a place i can find cli documentation?
[00:19] <raylu> mrpockets: it's only funny if it's the first time
[00:20] <CAiRO> raylu: ok, thanks for the hint, ill try to remove the virtual package
[00:20] <raylu> CAiRO: no, you should have both kernels installed and both as boot options in grub
[00:20] <arbir> onetinsoldier: i need to really reboot.. i am having this itch, worse, than when i would want to rush to the washroom :-)
[00:20] <onetinsoldier> arbir: it's stange..i have been trying to do that and have been getting an unexpected response here... normally it'd be   dpkg -l linux-image*
[00:20] <raylu> CAiRO: ah, i remember now. linux-image-generic
[00:20] <onetinsoldier> arbir: you will be rebooting very soon
[00:20] <urinal-mini> wow, first time ubuntu user and im kicked to their proprietary irc network
[00:20] <CAiRO> raylu: well, ive intentionally tried to give it the same name to avoid other problems
[00:20] <urinal-mini> wow
[00:20] <arbir> 5.30, my mother wants a ride
[00:21] <raylu> urinal-mini: it's a redirect to freenode...
[00:21] <onetinsoldier> arbir: oh, i see
[00:21] <urinal-mini> ah
[00:21] <urinal-mini> makes sense to me
[00:21] <raylu> urinal-mini: and how can irc networks be "proprietary"?
[00:21] <arbir> its 5.20 now... :-)
[00:21] <onetinsoldier> arbir: go ahead.. reboot if you like.. won't hurt anything
[00:21] <urinal-mini> jane get me off this crazy thing, etc, etc
[00:21] <arbir> onetinsoldier: thanks.... i will be back in 2 mins
[00:21] <urinal-mini> not the terminology i meant, but the point got across raylu
[00:22] <raylu> urinal-mini: oh. also, given that your name is not jane, i am confused
[00:22] <eseven73> that guy was seriously trolling or something
[00:22] <alaska> OK wtf. Every time I DL intrepid it stops in the middle.
[00:22] <CAiRO> raylu: ok, i've removed linux-generic and linux-image-generic but the update manager still tries to overwrite my custom packages
[00:22] <raylu> CAiRO: um...that would be a bad idea; that causes problems
[00:23] <raylu> CAiRO: also, that makes it... not a generic kernel, no?
[00:23] <templaedhel> if I were to show a screenshot of my partitons could someone tell me the correct grub settings for my windows partiton?
[00:23] <CAiRO> raylu: well, it works for me right now.. i would have other problems if i choose a different name
[00:23] <DasEi> ? another machine here is booting up to "running local boot scripts in rc.local" and then hangs.   rc.local is empty ,with exit 0.  syslog/kernlog shows nothing. When booting in safemode as root, no network.    hints ?
[00:23] <CAiRO> eg with the restricted modules
[00:23] <raylu> CAiRO: no, you wouldn't
[00:24] <R0b0t1> Is there a way to change the computers' name? EG, the name that appears in the terminal.
[00:24] <raylu> CAiRO: the restricted modules are compiled against the kernel anyway. you need to do that yourself now, and circumventing that will cause problems
[00:24] <onetinsoldier> CAiRO: you compiled you own custom kernel?
[00:24] <arktvrvs> R0b0t1: edit /etc/hosts
[00:25] <raylu> arktvrvs: i don't think that'll do it...
[00:25] <DasEi> R0b0t1:
[00:25] <DasEi> !hostname
[00:25] <CAiRO> onetinsoldier: well, basically ive used apt-get source to get the source of the generic kernel image and then ive changed one option
[00:25] <arbir> is back
[00:25] <R0b0t1> DasEi: Thank you!
[00:25]  * raylu is away
[00:25] <arbir> onetinsoldier: i am back.. rebooted safely
[00:25] <DasEi> np
[00:25] <arbir> onetinsoldier: lets see how the update manager works now
[00:25] <arktvrvs> ah thats right, /etc/hostname
[00:26] <arktvrvs> and /etc/hosts to go along with it
[00:26] <CAiRO> raylu: yes, ive recompiled them.. but if i used a different flavour than generic, i would have to do changed in the restricted modules package, wouldnt i?
[00:26] <oOarthurOo> I need help setting up mldonkey... I've got it installed, the gui and the server, but I can't do anything with it.
[00:26] <onetinsoldier> CAiRO: roger.. i compile my own custom kernels sometimes. did you use the kernel-package package to make and install it?
[00:26] <onetinsoldier> arbir: roger that!
[00:26] <geimhre> alright, flashplayer 10 doesn't do anything, flashplayer 9 screws up youtube and kills my memory. I can't get rid of it
[00:26] <raylu> CAiRO: ...that's not the point
[00:26] <raylu> CAiRO: you have to make those changes anyway
[00:26] <raylu> CAiRO: the restricted modules are compiled against the kernel
[00:26] <arbir> onetinsoldier: it says system is upto-date, i have disabled, backports and proposed updates
[00:26] <CAiRO> raylu: not right now, ive edited only one kernel config file and compiled
[00:26] <raylu> CAiRO: recompiling kernel => recompile relevant restricted modules
[00:27] <onetinsoldier> arbir: ok, w00oties!
[00:27] <arbir> onetinsoldier: thakns a ton!
[00:27] <CAiRO> raylu: yes, but without manual interaction
[00:27] <arbir> onetinsoldier: it really helps now./
[00:27] <raylu> CAiRO: huh?
[00:27] <raylu> CAiRO: what happens without manual interaction?
[00:27] <onetinsoldier> arbir: you're welcome! :-)
[00:27] <arbir> onetinsoldier: now, where can i get the latest chrome for ubuntu ?
[00:27] <CAiRO> raylu: yes, ive recompiled them.. but if i used a different flavour than generic, i would have to do changed in the restricted modules package, wouldnt i?
[00:27] <onetinsoldier> arbir: i'm not sure
[00:27] <Neff> does anyone know why installer would not show my HDD even though gparted can see it?
[00:27] <arbir> onetinsoldier: its run thru wine, that i know
[00:27] <raylu> CAiRO: ...for the third time, you have to make those changes anyway!
[00:27] <CAiRO> right now i didnt
[00:27] <onetinsoldier> arbir:  i have no idea really
[00:27] <CAiRO> i dont have to do them
[00:27] <jrib> Neff: did you read the release notes?
[00:28] <CAiRO> if i keep the name  of the flavour
[00:28] <Neff> jrib: no
[00:28] <raylu> CAiRO: why not? the number of options you change doesn't make a difference (except in how soon something breaks)
[00:28] <jrib> !notes > Neff
[00:28] <arbir> onetinsoldier: no probs.... but thanks for all the help so far.. i must rush now, its 5.30. my mom is waiting
[00:28] <jrib> Neff: they mention the issue
[00:28] <DasEi> Neff: does bios see it ?
[00:28] <arbir> thanks raylu!
[00:28] <raylu> CAiRO: cairo, the name is merely a name. if i rename my /etc/fstab to /boot/grub/menu.lst, that doesn't solve any problems
[00:28] <CAiRO> raylu: the name of hte flavour makes the difference
[00:28] <CAiRO> raylu: sure, the build process has those names hardcoded
[00:28] <Neff> DasEi yes windows does too
[00:28] <onetinsoldier> arbir: get to it then. you're welcome. see you later... :-)
[00:28] <Neff> and gparted does too
[00:28] <Neff> but installer doesn't
[00:28] <CAiRO> at least if i read those howtos correctly
[00:29] <raylu> o.0
[00:29] <raylu> perhaps. but i have to go now; good luck
[00:29] <bhsx> ok so...  i HAD wireless working... bcm4318, through the Hardware Drivers proprietary driver setup... i did an update THROUGH my wireless...  then on reboot it Hardware Drivers says i dont have proprietary hardware
[00:30] <bhsx> can anyone help get that working again?
[00:30] <DasEi> Neff : read the notes ? mounted ?
[00:30] <onetinsoldier> raylu: i wish you didn't have to go
[00:30] <itai-michaelson> hi, i'm trying to share a folder in my /home folder with xp comuters (on hardy). but when i try to set it, nautilus says i don't have the permissions. do i need to set it as root?
[00:30] <jrib> itai-michaelson: pastebin the actual message you get
[00:31] <DasEi> ﻿bhsx: I#am not good at wireless, but might read :
[00:31] <DasEi> !broadcom
[00:31] <itai-michaelson> jrib, it's short - i'll paste it here : 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission denied
[00:32] <jrib> itai-michaelson: paste the ouput of the 'groups' command
[00:33] <itai-michaelson> jrib itai adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin admin
[00:33] <jrib> itai-michaelson: logout, log back in, paste the output again
[00:33] <itai-michaelson> jrib, thanks
[00:33] <cppmonkey> is there anyway of only installing the min? I need the install to be less than 1.7GB
[00:33] <jrib> !minimal | cppmonkey
[00:33] <Styles> Hey
[00:34] <Styles> !openfirmware
[00:34] <AnnonyMouse> hi guys. looking for a IRC chat deling with linux/ubuntu audio. MIDI devices in particular
[00:34] <Styles> Does anyone know how to completely remove openfirmware?
[00:34] <nemik> hi. anyone know how to get back the normal power button in gnome-panel rather than this new pidgin-status integrated one?
[00:34] <jrib> AnnonyMouse: this is one such channel
[00:34] <AnnonyMouse> Styles: "sudo apt purge {whatever}"
[00:34] <nemik> cppmonkey: maybe just use the server edition?
[00:35] <Styles> AnnonyMouse, tht will work?
[00:35] <Styles> meaning the gay shit macs come w/ :P
[00:35] <jrib> Styles: please don't use the word "gay" that way
[00:35] <itai-michaelson> jrib, login out/in added the sambashare , now it's cool, thanks
[00:35] <AnnonyMouse> jrib : thnx. I have a behringer BCD2000 DJ device, which is basically a glorifies MIDI device. looking 4 linux-based software & interface
[00:35] <jrib> itai-michaelson: np, it's a known bug, see:
[00:35] <jrib> !samba > itai-michaelson
[00:36] <keres> how do you access the nvidia control panel
[00:36] <jrib> AnnonyMouse: personally, I don't know anything about it.  Just ask a detailed question on a single line to the channel to see if anyone can help
[00:36] <jrib> keres: nvidia-settings?
[00:36] <wos> what is the linux equivalent of portforward
[00:36] <keres> jrib: is that the syntax?
[00:36] <AnnonyMouse> jrib : thanx. will do
[00:36] <itai-michaelson> jrib, thank you
[00:36] <jrib> keres: yes, without the question mark
[00:37] <nemik> hi. anyone know how to get back the normal power button in gnome-panel rather than this new pidgin-status integrated one?
[00:37] <Neff> jrib: that doesn't seem to be the issue
[00:37] <jrib> Neff: why?
[00:37] <Neff> but how can i make sure my HDD is unmounted
[00:37] <jrib> Neff: type 'mount' and check if they are
[00:38] <Neff> where
[00:38] <jrib> Neff: in a terminal
[00:38] <oOarthurOo> ok... I've got mldonkey up and running I can search and add files to the download cue... but they never start..
[00:39] <jrib> oOarthurOo: don't know anything about but check your firewall (on your router too)
[00:39] <DasEi> ﻿what can I check,    if a machine hangs at running local boot..   rc.local  (bootuptime)  ?
[00:39] <Neff> but how can i make sure my HDD is unmounted
[00:39] <jrib> DasEi: did you add anything to /etc/rc.local?
[00:39] <Neff> jrib
[00:39] <jrib> Neff: type 'mount' and check if they are
[00:39] <DasEi> jrib: no, exit 0 only
[00:39] <jrib> DasEi: don't know then
[00:39] <Neff> jrib: all i see is the cdrom
[00:39] <thirst> hi guys.. After invoking NetworkManager using nm-applet, i see only WEP 64, 128 and LEAP .. how do i get WPA/WPA2 to list.. i have already installed wpa_supplicant
[00:39] <Neff> should the cdrom be unmounted too?
[00:39] <jrib> Neff: pastebin the output of 'mount'
[00:40] <Neff> thanks for your help
[00:41] <wos> can anyone tell me of an ubuntu firewall that will let me set up port forwarding?
[00:41] <jrib> wos: iptables?
[00:41] <arktvrvs> iptables i think its called wos
[00:41] <arktvrvs> though ive never used it
[00:41] <tvaughn> can someone suggest a good audio player?
[00:41] <jrib> !player | tvaughn
[00:41] <hwilde> mplayer
[00:42] <Neff> how do i get to pastebin again
[00:42] <tvaughn> i didnt see vlc in the list
[00:42] <arktvrvs> pastebin.com
[00:42] <hwilde> !paste
[00:42] <jrib> !paste > Neff
[00:42] <tvaughn> and amarok wont work for me :(
[00:42] <Neff> ok
[00:42] <arktvrvs> !iptables
[00:42] <hwilde> tvaughn, mplayer
[00:44] <Neff> paste.ubuntu.com/88156/
[00:44] <Neff> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88156/
[00:44] <vir--> Anyone that know what can be wrong if "move to trash" is grayed out on rhythmbox?
[00:44] <GodfatherofEire> How would I go about removing an OS from the MBR?
[00:45] <vir--> i can delete files in nautilus so it's not permissions
[00:45] <GodfatherofEire> !grub
[00:45] <tvaughn> GodfatherofEire, menu.lst
[00:45] <GodfatherofEire> tvaughn, thanks
[00:45] <tvaughn> you know where it is?
[00:46] <jrib> Neff: /dev/sdd1 on /media/disk type vfat maybe?
[00:46] <Neff> that's my flash drive i think
[00:46] <Benny> So, I just installed 8.10. How can I disable the screen brightness auto-adjusting on login?
[00:46] <jrib> Neff: unmount it to see if it makes a difference
[00:46] <KillerOrca> I am trying to move my existing install to a new hard drive, I have both installed in the same comp, the target drive is NTFS, and I booted with the gParted liveCD, but when I did move/resize, there was no way to aim at the target drive.  What am I doing wrong?
[00:46] <a-a-a-6> hi everyone can someone tell me is there a way in ubuntu to fake or hide your ip address so people can't see who u are or what service provider u have?
[00:46] <Benny> Right now it's automatically blinding me by turning my brightness to 100% every time I log in. :\
[00:46] <tvaughn> GodfatherofEire, you know where menu.lst is located?
[00:47] <wos> how do i configure port forwarding in my router from linux ?
[00:47] <wos> how do i configure port forwarding in my router from ubuntu ?
[00:48] <tvaughn> how do you do it in windows?
[00:48] <jrib> wos: didn't a couple of people suggest iptables before?
[00:48] <jrib> wos: erm, ignore what I said.
[00:48] <jrib> and listen to tvaughn
[00:48] <arktvrvs> i second that.
[00:48] <wos> tvaughn, i use a program called portforward
[00:49] <tvaughn> what brand is your router?
[00:49] <hwilde> wos, just google ubuntu port forward
[00:49] <bshak1> i just installed ubuntu and am trying to learn everything (im a windows user transitioning to ubuntu)
[00:49] <jrib> wos: doesn't your router have a web interface?
[00:49] <wos> netgear
[00:49] <bshak1> how do i move the contents of a directory into another directory?
[00:49] <tvaughn> go to this in your web browser
[00:49] <wos> yes it does but i cant forward ports
[00:49] <tvaughn> 192.168.1.1
[00:49] <wos> i cant forward ports
[00:49] <hwilde> bshak1, copy   cp
[00:49] <tvaughn> you should be able to do it there... i can...
[00:50] <bshak1> thanks hwilde... can you give an example of the syntax like cp ... ...
[00:50] <KillerOrca> some routers have a different home addr
[00:50] <hwilde> bshak1, type in "man cp"
[00:50] <tvaughn> true KillerOrca
[00:50] <hwilde> bshak1,  see the option      -R, -r, --recursive;    copy directories recursively
[00:51] <tvaughn> wos, does it say anything in the web interface about port triggering?
[00:51] <tvaughn> or anything about ports at all?
[00:51] <Mal3ko> he wants to move folder contents, so mv -R folder/ newfolder/
[00:51] <hwilde> bshak1, so you want something like     cp -r  SOURCE DEST
[00:51] <Jordan_U> bshak1, If you really want to move files rather than copy them use "mv"
[00:52] <wos> yes tvaughn
[00:52] <tvaughn> triggering?
[00:52] <Neff> jrib: now it shows my flash drive but still no HDD
[00:52] <wos> both but i tried using port forwarding to forward amule ports earlier and it didnt work
[00:53] <tvaughn> so it does have the interface for it?
[00:53] <wos> yes
[00:53] <tvaughn> oh
[00:53] <tvaughn> maybe you did it wrong?
[00:53] <wos> i checked like 9 times
[00:54] <hwilde> wos what port
[00:54] <jrib> Neff: don't know then.  Try the alternate cd
[00:54] <tvaughn> did you give the target computer a static lan address?
[00:54] <wos> 7002,7005,4665
[00:54] <hwilde> wos, can you telnet to localhost that port
[00:54] <devin> I have a quick question. I got a new cpu/mobo and i wanted to know if using my hdd that had ubuntu on my old system would be alright?
[00:54] <wos> how do you do that?
[00:54] <mon^rch> I need some help please...I just installed a usb webcam and I am trying to use cheese to make it work, but all I see is snow
[00:54] <kaiser10123> what is a program like mythtv that will give me free tv guide on it without paying 20$ a year
[00:55] <Styles> sudo apt purdge doesn't work.
[00:55] <tvaughn> mythtv costs money?
[00:55] <hwilde> mon^rch, disconnect, reconnect, type "dmesg"   is it recognized at the bottom
[00:55] <FAJALOU> Styles:  sudo apt-get purge <package>
[00:55] <kaiser10123> tvaughn: website says the listing are 20 a year for the usa
[00:55] <wos> hwilde, how do i do that ?
[00:55] <hwilde> Styles, FAJALOU      apt-get remove --purge package
[00:56] <hwilde> wos, open a terminal, type   "telnet localhost port#"
[00:56] <Benny> What would happen if I took a tarball of my old home directory from 7.10 and extracted it directly over the old one?
[00:56] <FAJALOU> hwilde:  my bad.... i totally just told one of my friends the correct command too, shoulda known.
[00:56] <Benny> * over the new one
[00:56] <wos> what am i doing that for hwilde ?
[00:56] <tvaughn> to see if the port is open..
[00:56] <hwilde> wos, to see if your computer is listening on those ports
[00:57] <KillerOrca> I am trying to move my existing install to a new hard drive, I have both installed in the same comp, the target drive is NTFS, and I booted with the gParted liveCD, but when I did move/resize, there was no way to aim at the target drive.  What am I doing wrong?
[00:57] <\Kira> Could Someone reccomend a good apache tutorial for getting started? The tutorials I want are down on the apache website.
[00:57] <wos> mee@mee-desktop:~$ telnet localhost port7002
[00:57] <wos> telnet: could not resolve localhost/port7002: Servname not supported for ai_socktype
[00:57] <mon^rch> hwilde: that didnt work, does that mean my webcam isnt supported?
[00:57] <tvaughn> wos
[00:57] <hwilde> mon^rch, you don't see any activity in dmesg ?
[00:57] <tvaughn> type this
[00:57] <tvaughn> telnet localhost 7002
[00:57] <tvaughn> lol
[00:57] <hwilde> wos, don't type hte word port sry
[00:57] <grumpy> #iphone
[00:58] <hwilde> just telnet localhost 7002
[00:58] <wos> Trying 127.0.0.1...
[00:58] <wos> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[00:58] <hwilde> wos, so your computer is not listening on that port.
[00:58] <devin> when i boot in to linux it starts at the ubuntu startup splash then it lags and it goes into text mode and finishes loading. Not really a problem but was wondering how to fix it?
[00:59] <Styles> ok, this is gay Open Firmware is installed and Iwant to get rid of it
[00:59] <hwilde> devin, does the livecd work?
[00:59] <mon^rch> hwilde: I see activity but nothing related to my webcam
[00:59] <hwilde> mon^rch, did you disconnect and reconnect it...
[00:59] <\Kira> devin, hwilde: This problem happens after additional services have been installed that start on boot, and I have the same problem
[00:59] <mon^rch> hwilde: yes
[00:59] <wos> hwilde, ok what next
[01:00] <hwilde> mon^rch, disconnect and reconnect it and pastebin your dmesg
[01:00] <hwilde> wos, it's not a port forwarding issue
[01:00] <devin> \Kira yes thats exactly the issue
[01:00] <wos> what is it then
[01:00] <mon^rch> hwilde: ok one sec
[01:00] <devin> hwilde don't have any livecds handy
[01:00] <tvaughn|away> can you go through a closed door?
[01:00] <\Kira> devin: I havnt found a fix yet, sorry :(
[01:00] <hwilde> devin, I mean when you installed it did the cd work ?
[01:00] <devin> hwilde, oh yeah
[01:00] <Styles> Can you even remove open firmware?
[01:01] <hwilde> devin, ok so then after you isntalled it, did it work then too
[01:01] <atoi> Hello, anyone know if there is an apt source for mod_wsgi out there somewhere?
[01:01] <wos> how do i make my lan address static?
[01:01] <devin> yeah, when i added a new mobo and cpu is when it messed uo
[01:01] <devin> up*
[01:01] <hwilde> devin, lol
[01:01] <tvaughn|away> hwilde, devin may want to add quiet boot?
[01:01] <hwilde> seriously?
[01:02] <maple_> Hi! I read a howto some time ago on how to use aptitude to remove orphans automatically. All packages were first marked as automatically installed, after which the really wanted packages were labelled "manually installed". I cant find the document anymore, though. Could you give me some pointers? (or is this no longer a common practice?)
[01:02] <hwilde> maple_, sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:02] <hwilde> also autoclean
[01:02] <tvaughn|away> apt-get install autoremove*
[01:02] <hwilde> umm
[01:02] <Jason_WT> hey all
[01:03] <hwilde> tvaughn|away, -install
[01:03] <maple_> ok, thanks! I'll have a look at that (I'll use aptitude, though :) )
[01:03] <Jason_WT> any of you installed ubuntu in virtual box?
[01:03] <tvaughn|away> oh?
[01:03] <mon^rch> hwilde: http://paste.ubuntu.com/88168/
[01:03] <hwilde> !vbox | Jason_WT
[01:03] <devin> uhm, idk
[01:04] <tsrk> How can I echo text to the terminal login screen of the actual computer when logged on via SSH?
[01:04] <Jason_WT> as far as i know the one from the virtualbox.org is also free
[01:04] <wos> hwilde,  i see this thing under "LAN Setup," called "Address Reservation." Is that it?
[01:04] <hwilde> tsrk, write user/ptsX message
[01:04] <tvaughn|away> and wos, that isnt the problem i dont think anyway but its under lan ip set up in the web interface
[01:04] <hwilde> wos, dunno
[01:04] <tvaughn|away> wos, yes
[01:04] <tsrk> hwilde, no user is logged in though
[01:04] <maple_> Is aptitude still recommended over apt-get?
[01:04] <tsrk> it's at the "hostname login:" screen
[01:04] <hwilde> tsrk, so what terminal do you expect to echo to ?
[01:04] <tvaughn|away> but you still need to open the port hwilde may be able to help you i must go
[01:04] <tsrk> hwilde, the login screen
[01:05] <Jason_WT> well i have downloaded the image and ran it but i cant seem to install it to the VHD. i get an error in ubuntu
[01:05] <wos> how do i find out my computer's mac address in ubuntu?
[01:05] <hwilde> tsrk, I don't know of any way, why are you trying to do that
[01:05] <tsrk> hwilde, oh, it says tty4
[01:05] <tsrk> can i use that?
[01:05] <hwilde> wos, ifconfig
[01:05] <wos> thanks
[01:05] <tkach> can some one suggest some solutions to the sound not working? I've tried reverting to alsa etc... it's all the sound not just firefox or a mediaplayer
[01:05] <hwilde> tkach, run alsamixer,  unmute everything
[01:06] <tkach> thanks hwilde but everything is unmuted.
[01:06] <maple_> tkach: does this problem affect all users?
[01:06] <atoi> I see that there are debian packages, but I'm not really finding a apt source for mod_wsgi .. hmm...
[01:06] <tkach> there's only one user, maple
[01:07] <Kelen> How to review newest pakages detail during upgrade?
[01:07] <maple_> tkach: I once managed to kick myself out of the group that had access to the sound system :-)
[01:08] <tkach> maple_ what do you mean? were you able to find a solution?
[01:08] <onetinsoldier> Kelen: what kind of detail?
[01:08] <Jason_WT> that documentation doesent provide any help as to how i should install ubuntu, just how to run it off the iso
[01:09] <KillerOrca> I am trying to move my existing install to a new hard drive, I have both installed in the same comp, the target drive is NTFS, and I booted with the gParted liveCD, but when I did move/resize option, there was no way to aim at the target drive.  What am I doing wrong?
[01:09] <DasEi> ﻿Jason_WT: what's your issue ?
[01:09] <samile> Jason_WT: run the live cd from the live cd then click install on the desktop for a grapical install wizard
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> KillerOrca Were you trying to install to NTFS partition
[01:09] <Landon> hi, I just updated some 300+ packages today and now my RAID5 isn't working :\
[01:09] <Landon> when I boot up I get something akin to "Bad magic superblock on /dev/sda1"
[01:09] <templaedhel> does windows have to be 1st as far as petitions fo?
[01:09] <Kelen> onetinsoldier: usual they are only display the pakage name during upgrade. i wanna know more information about the pakages.
[01:10] <maple_> tkach: The situation was such that all other users could use the sound system - except me. After some searching, I added myself back to the "sound" or "alsa" (or something like that) group, and everything was fine again.
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> templaedhel windows prefers it , but there are ways around it
[01:10] <Landon> was mdadm/related updated recently? because I think it's checking the wrong drive for the raid superblock,. the only raided drives are sdc1-sde1
[01:10] <DasEi> ﻿Landon: this is a hdd-error, if fsck doesn't come up itself, use a life cd
[01:10] <mon^rch> hwilde: did you read my patse?
[01:10] <maple_> tkach: It's probably just a random suggestion, but I was reminded of that situation when I read your question.
[01:11] <KillerOrca> Jack_Sparrow,no I wanted to overwrite what was there, just use the whole drive
[01:11] <onetinsoldier> Kelen: i don't have too much experience with the gui update-manager. you might need to use command line for that. is that acceptable?
[01:11] <Megazig> i have installed windowsXP on a 30GB partition, then I installed Kubuntu on a 9GB partition that I did manually with the cd and created a 1GB swap;  after the install it rebooted and just went straight to windowsXP without the option for kubuntu.  I was told to install the bootloader, but I have no idea how
[01:11] <DasEi> what can I do if a pc hangs at "running local boot scripts in rc.local" ?
[01:12] <Landon> DasEi: I should fsck the drives? :\ going to be hard, seeing how /dev/md0 won't mount
[01:12] <onetinsoldier> Kelen: there is a little down-arrow in the update-manager gui, at the botom. have you ever check that out?
[01:12] <tkach> OK, thank you maple_  where did you "add yourself" to the sound group.
[01:12] <Kelen> onetinsoldier: absolutely i use command line for upgrade,
[01:12] <onetinsoldier> Kelen: ok, roger that. one moment
[01:13] <defn> Anyone here run 'fish' as their shell?
[01:13] <DasEi> Landon: drives mussn't be mounted to fsck
[01:13] <onetinsoldier> Kelen: ok. you might want to install  apt-listchanges
[01:14] <Jason_WT> here is a like of a screenshot
[01:14] <Jason_WT> tkach: http://uploads.mibbit.com/up/KaV8L61Q.jpg
[01:14] <Jason_WT> http://uploads.mibbit.com/up/KaV8L61Q.jpg
[01:14] <Jason_WT> tkach: http://uploads.mibbit.com/up/KaV8L61Q
[01:14] <Jason_WT> add .jpg to the end
[01:14] <maple_> tkach: take a look at /etc/group or use the usermod command
[01:14] <Kelen> onetinsoldier: So, there is no way to got it? unless install other package?
[01:15] <Trinitrogen> how do I rename a drive?
[01:15] <radlipat> wat i ype to register name with nickserv?
[01:15] <radlipat> format it
[01:15] <Jason_WT> sorry about putting tkach before it
[01:15] <radlipat> trin
[01:15] <Jason_WT> can yall open the pic?
[01:15] <Trinitrogen> radlipat: Thats the only option? seems extreme
[01:15] <kristian1> >history | awk '{print $2}' | awk 'BEGIN {FS="|"} {print $1}'|sort|uniq -c | sort -rn | head -10 --- i wrote that in terminal. isnt that supposed to echo something? it didnt give any error's at leat.
[01:15] <radlipat> Trinitrogen: there is a safe format
[01:16] <radlipat> i do believe
[01:16] <maple_> tkach: especially the "audio" group (But as I said, it's unlikely that you have the same problem)
[01:16] <defn> no one?  anyone here use fish instead of bash?
[01:16] <Trinitrogen> radlipat: But I still lose all the Data on it?
[01:16] <radlipat> but i am used to windows so im not positive
[01:16] <tkach> maple_ you'
[01:16] <radlipat> i didnt but i was on windows
[01:16] <tkach> maple_ you're right, but thanks for the suggestion
[01:17] <onetinsoldier> Kelen: i don't think so, i could be wrong tho. apt-get does have some options, such as the -v option for verbose
[01:17] <Tamale> can anyone help me reconfigure the dhclient timeout on bootup?  our dhcp server is slow here @ work
[01:17] <radlipat> Trinitrogen: `hold on let me see something
[01:17] <shoxy-> can anyone help me get the wpa option up o n my wireless card?
[01:17] <Kelen> onetinsoldier: :), most of time, i use aptitude..
[01:18] <radlipat> Trinitrogen: ok forget format
[01:18] <bazhang> !register > radlipat
[01:18] <b3z3rk3r> hey guyz, im having trouble finding a download accelerator for ubuntu 8.10
[01:18] <Kelen> onetinsoldier: so, it is should be "apt-get -upgrade -v? is that right?
[01:18] <b3z3rk3r> anyone know of one?
[01:18] <radlipat> bazhang: ty
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak> shoxy-: what wireless card?
[01:18] <onetinsoldier> Kelen: so do i. when you press the g to get the packages, you can see all the packages are going to be installed. at that point...
[01:19] <shoxy-> its an intel pro
[01:19] <shoxy-> you need the model number?
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> shoxy-: wel,l there's a lot of itel pro's... are you sure it supports wpa?
[01:19] <radlipat> Trinitrogen: see pm
[01:19] <onetinsoldier> Kelen: you can use the down arrow, then press enter on any/all packages to see what it say about them. but that may not be what you're looking for
[01:20] <onetinsoldier> Kelen: or, maybe it is...
[01:20] <shoxy-> eth1      Authentication capabilities :
[01:20] <shoxy-> 		WPA
[01:20] <shoxy-> 		WPA2
[01:20] <jimmygoon>  /join #C++
[01:20] <samile> b3z3rk3r: gwget
[01:20] <Kelen> onetinsoldier: but i wanna know the detail of package before they installed..
[01:20] <dereks> i have a dumb question. i checked the man pages and can't find the answer. I am trying to gunzip a file to a different directory (space issues). how do i do this?
[01:20] <onetinsoldier> Kelen: i need toknow what kind of detail you are wanting
[01:20] <mrpockets> anyone know of a synth progrma for Ubuntu
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> dereks: probably quotes around the path
[01:21] <b3z3rk3r> samile, thx.. jsut simple download from web?
[01:21] <dereks> IndyGunFreak: eh? i want it to be in a different path than the gz.... so where do i put the new path?
[01:21] <b3z3rk3r> samile, or can i get it from the reps?
[01:22] <samile> b3z3rk3r: its in the repos
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> dereks: oh, misunderstood.. sorry, i dunno
[01:22] <samile> b3z3rk3r: also google search it to take a look
[01:22] <Kelen> onetinsoldier: like the package relation which software. something like that.
[01:22] <b3z3rk3r> samile, nice, thx. appreciate it ;)
[01:23] <b3z3rk3r> will have a look at it
[01:23] <samile> b3z3rk3r: any time
[01:23] <shoxy-> indy,' PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B'
[01:23] <kaiser10123> anyone know anything about tvtime
[01:23] <kaiser10123> i cants get any audio on tvtime
[01:23] <onetinsoldier> Kelen: ok, you do know about highlighting and pressing Enter on a package to view/read what it's about, correct?
[01:23] <Kingsy101> lol I have been in ubuntu-eeepc for about 4 hours now and no-one has said ANYTHING heh
[01:24] <Kelen> onetinsoldier: just about..
[01:24] <templaedhel> can anyone here help me with a quick partitionijng question?
[01:24] <fzellinger> shoot
[01:25] <onetinsoldier> Kelen: open up aptitude right now... then search for or go to a package, any package, then press Enter on your keyboard. tell me if that's what you're looking for
[01:25] <fzellinger> (what's your partitioning question)
[01:25] <templaedhel> *asking*
[01:27] <templaedhel> okay so I have this setup right now, and windows doesn't work http://imagebin.org/33966 someone said that I need to have windows first, so I'm going to move it infront of the linux one. then in the grub file will the ubuntu be (hd0,2) and the windows be (hd0,1)
[01:27] <Izinucs> If my system recognized my scanner and I installed the provided scanning software and drivers in wine, is there a way to pass the device info along to an application in wine?
[01:28] <BazookaAce> Hey, anyone knows why my wireless network likes to disable itself after a while?
[01:28] <templaedhel> fzellinger:^
[01:28] <jayde_drag0n> hey i've got no sound from flash in firefox and i've already installed libflashsupport.. anyone?
[01:28] <onetinsoldier> Kelen: btw, after you have pressed Enter on a package and can see it's details, you can use the down-arrow to go down to the tree-like area under 'Depends'(for example)... you can expand the tree by using the  [  and  ] keys(the bracket keys on your keyboard_
[01:28] <Izinucs> BazookaAce: maybe getting hot?
[01:28] <BazookaAce> Izinucs: Maybe! donno!
[01:29] <jayde_drag0n> anyone help a girl out? no sound in firefox.. libflashsupport already installed
[01:30] <templaedhel> close your other sound applications the re open ff see if that works
[01:30] <fzellinger> Ugh...your picture shows you mixing primary and extended partitions.
[01:30] <jayde_drag0n> templaedhel: no
[01:31] <Kelen> onetinsoldier: :) thanks advance..
[01:31] <aaaaa> can someone tell me how to hid ip in ubuntu?
[01:31] <onetinsoldier> Kelen: you're welcome
[01:31] <jayde_drag0n> templaedhel: and thats not a solution.. i want to keep rhythmbox in my taskbar
[01:31] <templaedhel> fzellinger: ya, but it started like that
[01:31] <n8tuser> what is the setting in gnome using gconf-editor so the partitions are not show on the desktop?
[01:31] <drx0drx0> What would you suggest for backing up your Linux OS (full metal restore or basic install + full restore) besides tar?
[01:31] <radlipat> how i format second hardrive? it still has windows stuff on it but idc. i only have 3 gig to work with right now!!!
[01:32] <jayde_drag0n> templaedhel: and i know i don't have to do that to watch things in firefox, i've fixed this problem before.. i just don't remember how
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> n8tuser Mounts in /medis should show up automatically
[01:32] <tkach> Hi. The sound on my machine does not work. Nothing is muted. Can anyone help me?
[01:32] <Jason_WT> has anyone found some info about my problem?
[01:32] <Firefishe> tkach:  laptop?
[01:32] <Wyzard> aaaaa: The only way to "hide" your IP, regardless of OS, is to use some sort of proxy (e.g. a web proxy or Tor)
[01:32] <Wyzard> aaaaa: and even in that case the proxy will know your IP
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> n8tuser that is /media rather
[01:33] <tkach> Firefishe...no, an old Dell Desktop
[01:33] <n8tuser> Jack_Sparrow-> i dont want it to show up on desktop,  i forgot the settings in gnome
[01:33] <Firefishe> tkach:  What type of sound card?
[01:33] <aaaaa> so Wyzarrd there is no way then?
[01:33] <n8tuser> Jack_Sparrow-> something about volume-manager have to unlick or something
[01:33] <Wyzard> aaaaa: Completely hiding your IP is fundamentally impossible
[01:33] <tkach> Firefishe...I feel that it's a sound blaster.
[01:33] <aaaaa> well wyzarrd i'm useing torrents and i don't want to get in trouble :)
[01:34] <aaaaa> i was wondering if there is way to hide ip
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> To Remove Drive Icons from Desktop Use Terminal and type gconf-editor browse to /apps/nautilus/desktop and uncheck volumes_visable..  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/hide-removable-drive-icons-from-your-ubuntu-desktop/
[01:34] <fzellinger> ﻿templaedhel:  unless you have a second drive and plan on completely re-building the partition layouts, I don't know what you mean when you say you are going to "move" the partition.  The partition table can't just be re-ordered and point to new locations on the disk
[01:34] <Wyzard> aaaaa: This isn't the place to ask about how to safely commit copyright infringement
[01:34] <aaaaa> i know
[01:34] <aaaaa> i'm just saying is there way to hide ip
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !tor
[01:34] <samile> jayde_drag0n: if your using Pulse audio in the terminal try: pavucontrol  and check that flash is not muted
[01:34] <templaedhel> fzellinger: with gparted I can re order them
[01:34] <Wyzard> aaaaa: but fundamentally, for another computer on the Internet to send you data, it must know your IP
[01:34] <Firefishe> tkach:  heh...you feel, huh?  Well, um, have you, perhaps tried this:  sudo lspci, or sudo hwinfo, or sudo lshw -html > filename ?
[01:35] <banisterfiend> hey Sweet Babies, i am trying to delete something in my Trash folder but it says permissions denied....how do i access the trash directory in terminal so i can sudo and rm -f  it ? where is the location of the trash directory?
[01:35] <aaaaa> so there is software it's gold hide ip how that works?
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !trash
[01:35] <\Kira> I used "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" to install a ssh server, and didnt have the time to look at the output and the session became terminated. I looked complete from the glance I took, but there is no ssh port open when I run nmap against the machine
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> aaaaa Please take it elsewhere..
[01:36] <drx0drx0> Anyone know the free equivalent to NTBackup?
[01:36] <banisterfiend> ubottu: thanks homes
[01:36] <aaaaa> what does ip fowrding do?
[01:36] <Wyzard> aaaaa: When I search Google for "gold hide IP" I find "Hide IP Planinum" from "Gold Software"...  that just uses a proxy, according to the description
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> aaaaa Not what you think
[01:36] <tkach> Firefishe:  "Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs [SB Live! Value]"
[01:37] <aaaaa> well i'm paying bills online and lot of people saying ohh get it stop hackers etd
[01:37] <onetinsoldier> drx0drx0: search on Google for Ghost Unix... aka g4u
[01:37] <Firefishe> tkach:  Hmmm.  It's just a sound blaster, and a pretty basic one.  What version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:37] <fzellinger> ﻿templaedhel:  I assume your problem is that windows is not booting, and that grub may point to that partition as a bootable partition, but it won't actually boot (probably you get a bootloader error message).  I am surprised that you have this setup, because even if gparted moves your partitions, I wouldn't expect it to maintain a valid windows master boot record (MBR)
[01:37] <aaaaa> but i guess i don't understand ip
[01:37] <lucent> Ah, I'm looking to use my builtin wifi adapter for internet access, and then add a usb wifi adapter which will be ignored by NetworkManager and manually configured, how do I tell NM to ignore an wifi interface?
[01:37] <Wyzard> aaaaa: It'd benefit you a lot to learn the basics of TCP/IP
[01:37] <banisterfiend> what is the way to delete an object from the Trash directory manually? there seems to be both 'info' files as well as the actual trash itself...i should just purge all of it?
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> aaaaa what you are asking about has nothing to do with Ubuntu support
[01:38] <tkach> Firefishe 8.04
[01:38] <radlipat> !format
[01:38] <onetinsoldier> drx0drx0: however, i've never used it and i don't know if it does incremental backups
[01:38] <rashire> aaaaa: mobloquer
[01:38] <pc_> hi
[01:38] <pc_> hey
[01:38] <pc_> dudes
[01:38] <godgo> Help! --- Where i can find *.deb packages after install them from repositories?
[01:38] <aaaaa> ﻿Wyzard what's best book
[01:38] <pc_> help me i have a problem
[01:38] <Firefishe> tkach:  Have you looked to see how alsa is configured?
[01:38] <pc_> whit my ubs and nokia
[01:38] <aaaaa> what that rashire
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> godgo /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:38] <Wyzard> no idea; I don't have any TCP/IP books
[01:39] <lucent> drx0drx0: g4u is a nice utility for imaging systems, if your target is NTFS be sure to have a WindowsXP disc on hand to get the filesystem checked out and marked clean
[01:39] <templaedhel> fzellinger: well windows boots up to the thing it shows before the welcome screen then  hangs there
[01:39] <rashire> peer-Guardian for linux, good for p2p apps. doesnt hide your ip, just blocks connections to "known" ip's
[01:39] <godgo> Jack_Sparrow, big thx!
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:40] <drx0drx0> does g4u do verify?
[01:40] <tkach> Firefishe, could you tell me what to look for
[01:40] <rashire> just google "moblock" or "mobloquer" and the page will explain.
[01:40] <lucent> drx0drx0: I've used g4u...  there's also "bacula" which I haven't used but its description looks interesting
[01:40] <aaaaa> does ubuntu have that package?
[01:40] <Firefishe> tkach:  Have you checked under System->Preferences->Sound?
[01:40] <lucent> drx0drx0: go check out g4u, it's easy to download and burn to a cdr
[01:40] <onetinsoldier> Firefishe: hello! how you doing buddy? ever get Solaris going?
[01:40] <keres> i have a new monitor set up at 1440x900 resolution, and my menus don't work
[01:40] <keres> any ideas?
[01:40] <rashire> i have it installed on mine, yes
[01:40] <lucent> keres: menus don't open?
[01:40] <\Kira> I used "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" to install a ssh server, and didnt have the time to look at the output and the session became terminated. I looked complete from the glance I took, but there is no ssh port open when I run nmap against the machine
[01:41] <keres> wait, they open, but it takes ~3 seconds for it to load
[01:41] <drx0drx0> lucent: oh, so you boot from CD, you can't run it from a booted syste?
[01:41] <keres> lucent:
[01:41] <lucent> \Kira: you may have to log into the system and run "apt-get -f install"
[01:41] <lucent> \Kira: or re-install
[01:41] <Firefishe> onetinsoldier:  Hey bud! :) Well, I've gotten 2008.11 in the mail, and it boots nicely.  Doesn't recognize my wifi apparatus, though.  It's a staunch learning curve, and will take some time.
[01:41] <\Kira> lucent: just apt-get -f install?
[01:41] <Firefishe> onetinsoldier:  Let's take this to ubuntu-offtopic
[01:41] <lucent> \Kira: when packages get into a half-installed state, yeah
[01:41] <keres> my new LCD widescreen monitor @ 1440x900 has a crazy latency
[01:42] <\Kira> lucent: or "apt-get -f install openssh-server"?
[01:42] <Firefishe> tkach:  I'm at that menu.  Check your system settings there.
[01:42] <loca|host> can i tell NetworkManager to stop ignore my wlan0 interface so i can play with it just like oldy days using the /etc/network/interfaces ?
[01:42] <tkach> Firefishe: everything says Autodetect except sound capture which says PulseAudio
[01:42] <\Kira> lucent: ill try it, thanks
[01:42] <lucent> keres: and you've installed i.e. not running from livecd?
[01:42] <keres> lucent: yes.
[01:42] <onetinsoldier> Firefishe: roger that.. i wasn't necessarily wanting detail about it, but i will go there in case you are wanting to talk about it
[01:42] <fzellinger> ﻿templaedhel:  Oh, I get it.  Grub is successfully launching the windows MBR from /dev/sda3, the windows loader starts, but partway into getting the WIndows OS up and running it must try to look to the "first partition" (because it is probably hard-coded) and it gacks.  I think that you should have gparted try to move the windows parition first, then just try to boot windows.  I realize that GRUB may not have a pointer currently t
[01:43] <lucent> keres: could be um, a few different things. GLX or Metacity?
[01:43] <Firefishe> onetinsoldier:  I'm also helping someone with a sound issue.  I should be here for a bit, but will be available for some time to come ;)  Wifey's out and about with 'er mom, so I'm free.
[01:43] <lucent> err xgl
[01:43] <keres> lucent: xgl? metacity?
[01:43] <onetinsoldier> Firefishe: roger
[01:43] <lucent> keres: you could install "fusion-icon"
[01:43] <lucent> run that from the menu, then switch to Metacity
[01:43] <lucent> see if that helps
[01:43] <keres> lucent: i just switched to my 19'' wide. my 19'' normal works just fine.
[01:43] <drx0drx0> lucent: i don't want to use the entire target drive to hold the image.  My OS is like 30G but the drive is 500G.
[01:44] <Firefishe> tkach:  I"m thinking here.  So you've checked all the volume controls?
[01:44] <raylu> templaedhel, fzellinger: there is a way to virtually map the partitions
[01:44] <keres> lucent: it's just on the menus too
[01:44] <lucent> drx0drx0: just go check out g4u and read the user manual for it, it should do what you want if you take the time to learn about it :)
[01:44] <Out_Cold> hey guys... i used LVM drives to set up a server... and now i'm trying to figure out what exactly is where... what's the name of the partition editor used with the server edition??
[01:44] <tkach> yes, firefishe (also thanks for your attention to my problem, I appreciate it)
[01:44] <templaedhel> raylu: that seems harder then moving them
[01:44] <jayde_drag0n> hey i have no sound in firefox at all, and i've run the fix 3 times now
[01:44] <drx0drx0> onetinsoldier:  I'm looking for something that does backup & restore to a remote Windows system without an (FTP or NFS) server...
[01:44] <chilli0> Hey all
[01:44] <raylu> templaedhel: how so? it's a simple configuration option in menu.lst
[01:44] <Firefishe> tkach:  I'm no expert, but I'll do what I'm able.
[01:45] <lucent> keres: that's pretty strange, but it could be an xgl compiz-fusion bug... so try running Metacity instead of xgl, see if it speeds up
[01:45] <chilli0> Is it possable to make a slide show as my background?
[01:45] <Firefishe> tkach:  you're welcome :)
[01:45] <templaedhel> raylu: okay can I have a tut?
[01:45] <keres> lucent: metacity works perfect ^_^ thanks
[01:45] <raylu> templaedhel: looking, one second
[01:45] <lucent> chilli0: if it is possible, it would likely be implemented as a plugin for compiz-fusion
[01:45] <Firefishe> tkach:  Are you using pulse audio as the primary interface to alsa?
[01:45] <meoblast001> is there a package for the CIA IRC commit notifier? im not sure if i saw it in aptitude or not... the description and package name isnt 100% understandable
[01:45] <raylu> templaedhel: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/map.html
[01:45] <lucent> keres: so, I don't know what to say except that there's probably a bug or some plugin that's not behaving right in compiz-fusion
[01:45] <keres> ok
[01:45] <Firefishe> tkach:  no, you said it's on autodetect...nm that last one
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Out_Cold I thought it was.. parted
[01:46] <chilli0> lucent:  ok thanks ill lookingto it
[01:46] <Terralthra> I just installed Ubuntu 8.04 on an older laptop, using the minimal install CD
[01:46] <sisto> anyone know how to disable the password request when coming back from suspend?
[01:46] <sisto> on intrepid
[01:46] <raylu> templaedhel: the link on that page is also very helpful
[01:46] <Terralthra> and now "sudo apt-get install gnome" fails
[01:46] <raw> I am currently running VMWare Workstation 6.5 on an Linux 8.10 (64bit) host system.  I am running a windows XP guest.  Every time I start VMWare, it'll run for about a minute or two and then the whole system will lock up hard.  Just wondering if anyone else has seen this and may know how to fix it?
[01:46] <Terralthra> apparently gnome-keyring-manager is unavailable?
[01:46] <lucent> sisto: interesting question
[01:46] <mk123> i just used ndiswrapper to load the .inf file for AR2007 wireless card, then i did 'modprobe ndiswrapper' -- now how can i test that everything is working ?
[01:46] <sisto> lucent: thx
[01:46] <templaedhel> raylu: are you sure it works with partitions too? that's for drives
[01:46] <raylu> mk123: lsmod and iwconfig will help you
[01:47] <raw> correction: on an Ubuntu Linux 8.10 (64bit) host system.
[01:47] <Out_Cold> Jack_Sparrow, it was another... I use gparted and i know that wasn't it.... and i dunno if gparted actually allows setting up LVMs
[01:47] <loca|host> can i tell NetworkManager to stop ignore my wlan0 interface so i can play with it just like oldy days using the /etc/network/interfaces ?
[01:47] <lucent> sisto: I'm pretty sure that the system just activates your gnome-screensaver, try those preferences
[01:47] <drx0drx0> lucent: i appreciate the suggestion, but I don't have a DHCP server and I don't have an FTP server so it's a lot of up front work versus an NTBackup-style utility that just backs up the path of your choosing.
[01:47] <loca|host> anyone .?
[01:47] <raylu> templaedhel: ah. click the link for hide
[01:47] <Firefishe> tkach:  Right click on the volume applet in the upper right (or lower right, etc.) on the system tray, and open volume control.
[01:47] <Jason_WT> where can i find that md4sum for ubuntu
[01:47] <lucent> loca|host: I want to know the same thing
[01:47] <tkach> Firefishe: done
[01:47] <Firefishe> tkach:  I want to see if the system is even seeing that card's volume properties
[01:47] <tsrk> When I use "echo 'Hello world" > /dev/tty0' it echos fine and makes a new line but the carriage doesn't return.  Any ideas on why this is and how to make it return?  (I've tried \r but it just echoed that as text)
[01:47] <mk123> raylu: i did ifconfig ath0 up , and the i did 'iwlist ath0 scan' , but the scan returned no results -- am i doing things wrong ?
[01:47] <onetinsoldier> drx0drx0: i don't know
[01:47] <sisto> lucent: nope it's disabled
[01:48] <Firefishe> tkach:  Do you see where it says Device?
[01:48] <bazhang> !md5
[01:48] <lucent> drx0drx0: I think you could appreciate the suggestion some more, and then read the manual for g4u which has everything you need ;P
[01:48] <sisto> lucent: i tried editing the /etc/default/acpi-support file
[01:48] <Jason_WT> tks
[01:48] <sisto> and commenting this: LOCK_SCREEN=true
[01:48] <jayde_drag0n> can someone please help me?!? hey i have no sound in firefox at all, and i've run the fix 3 times now
[01:48] <raylu> mk123: iwlist shows something meaningful for ath0?
[01:48] <Ward1983> whats the best way to get flash10 for ubuntu 8.10 64bit
[01:48] <sisto> but it didn't work
[01:48] <Ward1983> ?
[01:48] <mk123> raylu: ndiswrapper is shown in lsmod , and ath0 is up in ifconfig, but when i scan i get no results -- when in installed the madwifi drivers I had the same problem that scan just would no work
[01:48] <raw> I am currently running VMWare Workstation 6.5 on an Ubuntu Linux 8.10 (64bit) host system.  I am running a windows XP guest.  Every time I start VMWare, it'll run for about a minute or two and then the whole system will lock up hard.  Just wondering if anyone else has seen this and may know how to fix it?
[01:48] <tkach> Firefishe: under 'File' it says "Change Device"
[01:48] <mk123> raylu: whats the exact command you want me to run?
[01:48] <raylu> mk123: iwconfig
[01:48] <lucent> sisto: no-no mate, it's more likely to be a gconf setting or something that tells gnome-screensaver to run in lock mode on suspend
[01:49] <Ward1983> mk123,  stupid question but just to make sure: you are sure your AP is up right?
[01:49] <mk123> raylu: dpaste.com/100621
[01:49] <sisto> ok i'm going to check gconf
[01:49] <mk123> raylu: is that considered 'meaningful'
[01:49] <templaedhel> raylu: but I want swap not hide
[01:49] <Firefishe> tkach:  File?  I'm in 8.10, so the menu dynamics might be a tad different, although I wouldn't know why.
[01:49] <samile> Ward1983: from the adobe website
[01:49] <lucent> loca|host: is network manager in your way?
[01:49] <Ward1983> samile, that gave me a 32bit deb
[01:49] <\Kira> I have install openssh-server on my system, I can connect from the localhost, but not from any other computer on the network. Im assuming I have iptables or another similar firewall blocking the connection. How can I fix this?
[01:49] <raylu> templaedhel: hm. i wonder if map works with partitions too :P
[01:50] <drx0drx0> lucent:  the manuals says u can use ftp, local disk partition (dont' have one) or local drive copy.   I don't have any of these.  Moreover, local drive copy completely destroys the target disk.
[01:50] <raylu> mk123: then my only guess is that the card itself is not on
[01:50] <sisto> gconf has a lot more settings
[01:50] <lucent> drx0drx0: g4u provides those?
[01:50] <loca|host> lucent, it is, for one interface only ;) not others
[01:50] <chilli0> does anyone know were i can get, xwinwrap from?
[01:50] <Firefishe> tkach:  You have Volume Control openb?
[01:50] <Firefishe> open
[01:50] <slyf> hey guys, having an issue with suspend/hybernate " interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.SystemPowerManagement" doesn't exist
[01:50] <tkach> Firefishe...yes I opened alsamixer. "Devices" is not visible anywhere on the window. unless I click 'file'
[01:50] <AndreasMadrid> I have a problem with micro in ubuntu. I can't use the micro. the volume control is always down to zero for capture, a can raise it but it falls back down and i can't use voice in messenger thus. what can i do?
[01:51] <lucent> loca|host: well, if you just want static IP assignment, you can edit the settings for network manager connections... it works really really nice in Intrepid
[01:51] <slyf> I checked history and gnome-power-manager updated a couple days ago
[01:51] <Ward1983> mk123,  stupid question but just to make sure: you are sure your AP is up right? and also is sending out its SSID?
[01:51] <Firefishe> tkach:  close alsamixer
[01:51] <lucent> loca|host: associate by mac addr, etc.
[01:51] <Firefishe> tkach:  Do you have the Volume Control icon available in the system tray?  (I'm assuming GNOME).
[01:51] <Terralthra> I am trying to install gnome via apt-get on 8.04, and it fails because gnome depends on gnome-keyring-manager, which is apparently unavailable now
[01:51] <raylu> templaedhel: actually, it won't
[01:51] <slyf> anybody?
[01:51] <Terralthra> ideas?
[01:51] <lucent> loca|host: the only thing I don't know how to do is tell network manager to ignore a single wifi interface
[01:51] <tkach> Firefishe: When I click open volume control that's what it opens
[01:51] <AndreasMadrid> I have a problem with micro in ubuntu. I can't use the micro. the volume control is always down to zero for capture, a can raise it but it falls back down and i can't use voice in messenger thus. what can i do?
[01:52] <aDeck> czesc/hi
[01:52] <templaedhel> raylu: damit
[01:52] <lucent> Terralthra: replaced by "gnome-keyring"
[01:52] <sisto> lucent: thx that worked through gconf!
[01:52] <Terralthra> ok
[01:52] <Terralthra> how do I tell apt-get that?
[01:52] <Firefishe> tkach:  Hmmm...let me check something.
[01:52] <mk123> raylu: how can i check if the card is on?
[01:52] <slyf> hey guys, having an issue with suspend/hybernate " interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.SystemPowerManagement" doesn't exist
[01:52] <lucent> sisto: really? which setting? I couldn't find it
[01:52] <sisto> lucent: thx
[01:52] <onetinsoldier> hey, i have metacity installed by am wondering why it doesn't seem to show as an option for a session in gdm. anyone know?
[01:52] <null_x86> hey any good MCEs? Im stuck between Mythbunutu and LinuxMCE
[01:52] <sisto> lucent: check "/apps/gnome-power-manager/lock/use_screensaver_settings" option.
[01:53] <Ward1983> hmmm he ignores me :p
[01:53] <loca|host> lucent, ok so here's my problem: i have a wifi dongle wich i want to get it working in ad-hoc mode, wich NetworkManager wont do, so i did it with the classic interfaces way, and then, when plugging my usb wifi dongle, it gets the ad-hoc mode for 1 moment and then, NetworkManager catch it and fallback to managed mode :(
[01:53] <raylu> templaedhel: but i don't think being the first partition is necessary; i think it only has to be the first drive, which may mean the problem is elsewhere
[01:53] <lucent> onetinsoldier: things changed. To run Metacity I suggest installing "fusion-icon" and loading it from there
[01:53] <Izinucs> onetinsoldier: sessions is for kde, gnome, etc
[01:53] <dr_willis> onetinsoldier,  metacityis by default used by gnome. its not normally ran by itself. its rather minimal.
[01:53] <raylu> templaedhel: can you show me your menu.lst
[01:53] <samile> Ward1983: sorry didn't read 64. one mment
[01:53] <templaedhel> okay
[01:53] <lucent> loca|host: networkmanager does ad-hoc mode
[01:53] <Firefishe> tkach:  Do you have a list of tabs with things like Playback, Recording, Switches, and Options?
[01:53] <Ward1983> samile, i didn't mean you :D
[01:53] <loca|host> lucent, it wonts with my dongle
[01:53] <loca|host> arrghh
[01:53] <raylu> mk123: this is laptop, right? is there a switch or key combination to enble i?
[01:53] <templaedhel> raylu: how do I get that?
[01:53] <raylu> mk123: *enable it?
[01:53] <raw> I am currently running VMWare Workstation 6.5 on an Ubuntu Linux 8.10 (64bit) host system.  I am running a windows XP guest.  Every time I start VMWare, it'll run for about a minute or two and then the whole system will lock up hard.  Just wondering if anyone else has seen this and may know how to fix it?
[01:53] <raylu> templaedhel: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:53] <lucent> loca|host: oh, your driver doesn't work with it?
[01:53] <onetinsoldier> lucent Izinucs and dr_willis: ok, thanks guys. i'll have a look
[01:54] <rambo298> in what directory would i find configuration.php?
[01:54] <Terralthra> lucent: How do I get apt-get to recognize the package change?
[01:54] <Ward1983> raylu, can you tell mk123 to check if his AP is up and also sending its SSID (as he seems to ignore my highlights lol)
[01:54] <raylu> raw: i'd poke around in /var/log/
[01:54] <tkach> Firefishe: Just "playback" and "switches"
[01:54] <drx0drx0> lucent: that' s what the docs say, which is cool, but not exactly what I need.
[01:54] <AndreasMadrid> I have a problem with micro in ubuntu. I can't use the micro. the volume control is always down to zero for capture, a can raise it but it falls back down and i can't use voice in messenger thus. what can i do?
[01:54] <mk123> raylu OMG
[01:54] <AndreasMadrid> anyone?
[01:54] <raylu> mk123: Ward1983 says to check if your AP is up and also sending its SSID
[01:54] <mk123> raylu THE DAMN SWITCH WAS SET TO OFF, WASTED 2 DAYS FIGHITNG MADWIFI
[01:55] <Ward1983> thanx raylu :)
[01:55] <raylu> mk123: :P
[01:55] <Ward1983> LOL
[01:55] <mk123> laaame
[01:55] <LjL> !caps | mk123
[01:55] <mk123> my elbow must have knocked it to the 'off' position
[01:55] <raylu> mk123: better than spending 2 days compiling openoffice
[01:55] <Ward1983> sorry but stupid is a understatement for that :p
[01:55] <mk123> ubottu: but its not as funny without caps
[01:55] <loca|host> lucent, unfortunatly yes
[01:56] <comradekingu> Killswitch enabled, fight!
[01:56] <lucent> loca|host: if you define an interface in /etc/network/interfaces then it should be ignored by network manager on next boot
[01:56] <raylu> templaedhel: oh...you have multiple windows installations... i believe hiding is necessary to boot that, no matter how you reorder it
[01:56] <Firefishe> tkach:  Click on the Preferences button and a dialog box should appear.  It should have little check boxes for various other elements associated with your card, essentially to clutter up your volume control display with even more switches, volume sliders, and recording selectiong ;) hee.  I want you to check them all if they are there, and then we'll look to see if any of them might be muted.
[01:56] <Firefishe> selectiong=selections
[01:57] <templaedhel> raylu: no I don't the other one is like norten ghost and its always been there
[01:57] <lucent> Terralthra: I have to think there's an easier way to do what you're ultimately wanting to do
[01:57] <lucent> Terralthra: *why* are you installing gnome from apt?
[01:57] <samile> Ward1983: http://www.myscienceisbetter.info/2008/05/install-adobe-flash-player-10-on-ubuntu-using-nspluginwrapper.html
[01:57] <redryno> norton sux balls
[01:57] <raylu> templaedhel: hm. you should consider hiding it and not mapping/reordering anything; see if that helps
[01:57] <raylu> redryno: not norton antivirus, ghost
[01:57] <Ward1983> samile, that will work for epiphany also right? just to make sure
[01:58] <Ward1983> samile, because i dont like firefox much
[01:58] <Ward1983> damn i guess not lol
[01:58] <Firefishe> Can one view flash video and do java in ephiphany?
[01:58] <samile> Ward1983: I belive so, one moment.
[01:58] <Firefishe> epiphany, even
[01:58] <Stargazer> Where can i get more master page templates for open office Presentation ?
[01:58] <tkach> ok, Firefishe I unmuted whatever was muted I'm going to try it.
[01:58] <Ward1983> samile, ok thanx in advance
[01:58] <Jason_WT> does the server edition have a gui?
[01:58] <Izinucs> Stargazer: google.com  openoffice.org
[01:58] <Firefishe> tkach...k, tell me how it goes
[01:59] <raylu> Jason_WT: of course not
[01:59] <Terralthra> lucent: because I installed ubuntu from the minimal install CD
[01:59] <Firefishe> tkach:  Also make sure the volume is up a bit.  Pay close attention to anything with PCM in it.
[01:59] <RickZilla> Somebody answered this for me earlier, but I lost it before I got it written down...how do I run a .bin package?
[01:59] <templaedhel> raylu: are you sure?
[01:59] <Mimi> does anyone know how i can tell wicd to connect to a hidden network everytime? because hidden network doesnt show on list ofcourse :) i can go to "connect to hidden network" and type it there, but would like it  automatically
[01:59] <raylu> templaedhel: Another problem arises if you installed more than one set of DOS/Windows onto one disk, because they could be confused if there are more than one primary partitions for DOS/Windows. Certainly you should avoid doing this, but there is a solution if you do want to do so. Use the partition hiding/unhiding technique.
[01:59] <lucent> Terralthra: oh.  well unless you're interested in wasting a lot of time, I suggest installing from the desktop cd ;)
[01:59] <lobo> I install xampp and phpeclipse but when press the boton xampp, mysql or apache the phpeclipse appear that message
[01:59] <lobo> could not execute external app/opt/lampp/lampp start
[01:59] <raylu> templaedhel: from http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/DOS_002fWindows.html#DOS_002fWindows
[01:59] <loca|host> lucent, lemme try
[01:59] <lobo> and what is app???
[02:00] <Terralthra> if I could, I would
[02:00] <raylu> RickZilla: sh
[02:00] <Terralthra> the laptop has a poor CD drive
[02:00] <RickZilla> raylu:  Thanks, sorry for asking again
[02:00] <ziroday> RickZilla: try ./programname.bin
[02:00] <Jason_WT> what does it look like then, does eerything need to be done via console?
[02:00] <Terralthra> which overheats after about 5 minutes
[02:00] <raylu> RickZilla: you can usually also chmod +x foo.bin, then ./foo.bin
[02:00] <Terralthra> I tried installing from the regular CD several times, each time the install failed partially through
[02:00] <lucent> Terralthra: ah, I've been there mate... can it boot off USB?
[02:00] <tkach> Firefishe: :( no dice.
[02:00] <Terralthra> no, it can not
[02:00] <raylu> lobo: what...?
[02:00] <Terralthra> why does apt-get for gnome not work?
[02:00] <lucent> Terralthra: shame about that
[02:00] <templaedhel> raylu: that was there when it was just windows,
[02:00] <tkach> I'll just google it, I won't hold you up. Thanks, Firefishe
[02:00] <Ward1983> Terralthra, time to buy a USB stick to put the liveCD on (+ it goes tons faster)
[02:01] <samile> Ward1983: Should do epiph searches for plugins...
[02:01] <raylu> templaedhel: pastebin the error please
[02:01] <Firefishe> tkach:
[02:01] <Terralthra> Ward1983: it does not boot off of USB
[02:01] <woody86_> can anyone help me get my wireless working? It works so far, but I can't find any networks on it
[02:01] <Firefishe> tkach:  sorry, finger slipped
[02:01] <lucent> Terralthra: it does work, but it's not just like you can conjure up a few packages and have a full Desktop experience
[02:01] <raylu> templaedhel: i dunno. still worth a shot, i think
[02:01] <FAJALOU> woody86_: details please?
[02:01] <Terralthra> lucent: I am aware
[02:01] <Jason_WT> Terralthra: do you get an error about a corrupt cd or HD?
[02:01] <Ward1983> Terralthra, lol jsut a sec, there's a CD that will make any comp boot from USB :p
[02:01] <Jordan_U> Terralthra, In what way does it not work?
[02:01] <RickZilla> raylu:  Says I can't open it, not sure what's wrong
[02:01] <Ward1983> Terralthra, lost the name for a moment
[02:01] <raylu> RickZilla: er, the exact error please
[02:01] <Firefishe> tkach:  Does your card even show up in the Device dialog in Volume Control?
[02:01] <Terralthra> Jordan_U: sudo apt-get install gnome fails
[02:02] <Firefishe> tkach:  i.e., it's not blank, is it/
[02:02] <Firefishe> ?
[02:02] <andrewfree> Is there a way to enable, and setup vnc in ubuntu via command line.
[02:02] <woody86_> FAJALOU, what do you need to know? I'm not that great with the command line
[02:02] <Terralthra> gnome fails because it depends on gnome-desktop-environment, which depends on gnome-keyring-manager
[02:02] <Terralthra> gnome-keyring-manager has no installation candidate
[02:02] <raylu> templaedhel: also, ignore what i said about pastbin...
[02:02] <RickZilla> raylu:  Here's the copy and paste:  sh: Can't open GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[02:02] <raylu> Terralthra: pastebin the error please
[02:02] <Terralthra> ....
[02:02] <FAJALOU> woody86_:  are you using ndiswrapper?  bcm43xx-fwcutter? madwifi? etc etc etc.
[02:02] <templaedhel> raylu: there is no error, it just hangs before the welcome screen
[02:02] <raylu> RickZilla: sounds like a typo
[02:02] <Ward1983> Terralthra, http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197880
[02:02] <raylu> templaedhel: _ignore_ :P i auto-completed the wrong name
[02:03] <Terralthra> raylu: you want me to pastebin from a computer with no desktop environment
[02:03] <ziroday> !vnc | andrewfree this might be able to help
[02:03] <raylu> Terralthra: install pastebininit
[02:03] <Ward1983> Terralthra, then it would read only a few seconds of CD to load the USB drivers :D
[02:03] <lucent> Terralthra: try "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-standard"
[02:03] <Ward1983> lol raylu pastebininit
[02:03] <raylu> ?
[02:03] <Terralthra> "ubuntu-standard is already the newest version"
[02:03] <raylu> oh =\
[02:03] <RickZilla> It's going now, thanks gang
[02:03] <templaedhel> raylu: sorry
[02:03] <lucent> Terralthra: try "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" instead then
[02:03] <raylu> Terralthra: install pastebinit
[02:03] <ziroday> raylu: you misspelt it
[02:03] <ziroday> Terralthra: the package is pastebinit
[02:04] <Terralthra> working on it
[02:04] <dnyy> I'm having problems mounting a second HD.  I tried following a guide on the forums, but got "mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/f75ddf72-138b-4ca9-a9a8-571cd6d5b9c8 does not exist"
[02:04] <tkach> Firefishe, yes I see it. Don;'t worry about it. I'm beat anyway, I'll google it in the morning. Thanks again for your help
[02:04] <Out_Cold> anyone know how to check which LVMs are mounted where???
[02:04] <templaedhel> raylu: I think I'm going to move them
[02:04] <FAJALOU> woody86_:  are you using ndiswrapper?  bcm43xx-fwcutter? madwifi? etc etc etc.
[02:05] <raylu> Out_Cold: mount
[02:05] <ziroday> dnyy: can you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l  please
[02:05] <Firefishe> tkach:  No probs :).  Sleep well.  Happy to help.
[02:05] <raylu> templaedhel: have you tried hiding one anyway?
[02:05] <Ward1983> samile, how does this look? http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/releasenotes_64bit.html
[02:05] <lucent> Out_Cold: they show up in /dev/mapper/* regardless
[02:05] <raylu> templaedhel: if it works, you'll have saved a lot of time :P
[02:05] <woody86_> FAJALOU, I'm using the Broadcom B43 under "Hardware Drivers"?
[02:05] <Terralthra> installing ubuntu-standard
[02:05] <lucent> Out_Cold: or um "lvdisplay"
[02:05] <dnyy> ziroday: yessur. http://pastebin.com/m324c36f4
[02:06] <loca|host> lucent, its okay after reboot
[02:06] <woody86_> FAJALOU, it says something about fwcutter in the description
[02:06] <ziroday> dnyy: thanks, looking now :)
[02:06] <templaedhel> so can i just comment it out in the grup list?
[02:06] <mk123> Mimi: make  a script?
[02:06] <raylu> ziroday: you never asked him how he mounted it
[02:06] <FAJALOU> woody86_: ok so what you probably need to do is hook that in to a wired connection, disable through 'hardware drivers' and then reenable through 'hardware drivers'
[02:06] <templaedhel> or do I have to "hide" it
[02:06] <lucent> loca|host: solved?
[02:06] <loca|host> lucent, i think restarting NetworkManager should work
[02:06] <loca|host> lucent, yes thx
[02:06] <FAJALOU> because ironically enough, bcm43xx-fwcutter needs the internet to configure...
[02:06] <woody86_> FAJALOU, ok, let me try... brb...
[02:06] <FAJALOU> !broadcom
[02:06] <ziroday> raylu: was getting there, and just checking the drive exists, but yes dnyy what command did you execute to mount the drive
[02:07] <Jordan_U> FAJALOU, It's b43-fwcutter now
[02:07] <FAJALOU> !bcm | woody86_
[02:07] <FAJALOU> Jordan_U:  ah ok.
[02:07] <raylu> ziroday: ok
[02:07] <Out_Cold> well lucent the 'lvdisplay' shhows "No volume groups found"
[02:07] <samile> Ward1983: that looks fine. its the same in so far as the plugin .so is placed in the ~/.mozilla/plugins folder
[02:07] <FAJALOU> !broadcom > woody86_
[02:07] <woody86_> thanks guys
[02:07] <lucent> loca|host: cool stuff, remember if you want NetworkManager again you have to comment out the interface in /etc/network/interfaces - cheers
[02:07] <ziroday> dnyy: also I presume the drive you want mounted is /dev/sdb2?
[02:07] <FAJALOU> Jordan_U:  do you still need to use the internet to get the correct configuration files?
[02:07] <Ward1983> samile, damn so no flash in epiphany, ok then im forced to use firefox i guess
[02:07] <dnyy> ziroday: I honestly have no clue what name it's given, in partition editor it shows as only "sdb"
[02:08] <Ward1983> samile, but can i uninstall this "thing"
[02:08] <lucent> Out_Cold: I guess that's your answer.  Did you want to scan for LVM volumes?
[02:08] <dnyy> ziroday: the guide i followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6326105&postcount=7
[02:08] <ziroday> dnyy: yeah thats fine, okay what command did you do to try an mount it?
[02:08] <grendal_prime> im sorry but intrepid sucks
[02:08] <ziroday> dnyy: also does your drive appear in /media anywhere?
[02:08] <lucent> dnyy: you may have to re-create your kernel's initramfs
[02:08] <Jordan_U> FAJALOU, Yes ( it's firmware it gets BTW ), there is also a proprietary driver that comes with intrepid that works for some broadcom cards without any extra downloads
[02:08] <R0b0t1> Would someone please tell me the packages to install to get compiz and all the neat affects up and running?
[02:08] <R0b0t1> I bet it's in ubottu.
[02:08] <lucent> dnyy: do uh "sudo update-initramfs"
[02:08] <grendal_prime> im backing up  my data and going back the the factory install of 710 that came with this laptop
[02:08] <samile> Ward1983: does it not work in epiphany?
[02:08] <ultratek> how do i install the boon login screen?
[02:08] <rambo298> in what directory would i find configuration.php?
[02:09] <dnyy> ziroday: now, it doesn't show in /media
[02:09] <Out_Cold> well lucent i want to make sure that there are no important LVMs on a particular drive.. trouble is I cannot see which LVMs are where in gparted..
[02:09] <powertool08> !compiz > R0b0t1
[02:09] <Ward1983> samile, i assumed not?
[02:09] <Out_Cold> I am trying to format the drive for a new OS
[02:09] <Ward1983> samile, should it work? then ill jsut try it
[02:09] <ziroday> dnyy: okay, is there a folder called sdb in /media?
[02:09] <Nyu`> ai
[02:09] <R0b0t1> powertool08: Thanks :)
[02:09] <samile> Ward1983: it certainly should
[02:09] <raylu> gretchen: 8.04
[02:09] <raylu> er...
[02:09] <lucent> Out_Cold: to privmsg! :)
[02:09] <ziroday> dnyy: also I need you to pastebin your /etc/fstab please
[02:09] <Ward1983> samile, aaaaah ok then i misunderstood :)
[02:09] <FAJALOU> woody86_:  ok look at Jordan_U's comment.  your card needs to get firmware off of the internet for the wireless to work, so you will need to plug it in via ethernet, and then disable in hardware drivers, (possibly reboot) and then reenable in hardware drivers!
[02:09] <samile> Ward1983: fingers crossed, try it out
[02:09] <Ward1983> samile, yeah the alpha is my best shot i guess
[02:09] <dnyy> ziroday: Yes, i made it following that guide, but there's nothing in it.  Alright, hold on while I paste fstab
[02:10] <Nyu`> &rech
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[02:10] <raylu> ziroday: why...?
[02:10] <Nyu`> NSM =DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[02:10] <Nyu`> *
[02:10] <Nyu`> *
[02:10] <FloodBot1> Nyu`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:10] <formode> ubottu, You're a god among bots.
[02:10] <woody86_> FAJALOU, ok I'll try disabling and reenabling it
[02:11] <dnyy> ziroday: http://pastebin.com/m58e76690
[02:11] <Aayush> i delete my task bar..... how to add it......
[02:12] <Jordan_U> Aayush, Do you want to try to recreate your pannel or just go back to the default configuration?
[02:12] <ziroday> dnyy: um, are you any of the people in that forum thread?
[02:12] <dnyy> ziroday: nope :X
[02:13] <Aayush> Jordan_U, recreate
[02:13] <ziroday> dnyy: okay, did you just copy the UUID?
[02:13] <dnyy> ziroday: I'm guessing it's not working because the UUID isn't correct. If that's the case, how can I find the correct one?
[02:13] <Firefishe> FAJALOU:  If you need help with that broadcom chipset of yours, I may be of some use.
[02:13] <Jordan_U> Aayush, Do you have one of your pannels left?
[02:13] <Aayush> a
[02:13] <dnyy> ziroday: yuh, I just copy/pasted hah.
[02:13] <Aayush> Jordan_U, ya
[02:14] <raylu> dnyy: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[02:14] <dule> does anyone know the answer to this: How do I connect to a WEP encrypted wireless network?  When I choose it in NetworkManager, it asks for the key, I put it, it tries to connect, but always comes back and asks for the key again... it never connects! Is there something I am missing??
[02:14] <ziroday> dnyy: right, one sec
[02:14] <Jordan_U> Aayush, Right click it and choose "New Pannel"
[02:14] <templaedhel> raylu: is there a command so I can see the different partitions with the (hd0,0) lables right there?
[02:14] <ziroday> dnyy: can you pastebin blkid please :)
[02:14] <raylu> templaedhel: with the (hd0,0) lables? what?
[02:14] <phuzion> How do I go about removing the password for an account so that it must use authorized keys to login via SSH?
[02:14] <dnyy> ziroday: want me to pastebin the output of ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid?
[02:15] <Ward1983> samile, only firefox is working
[02:15] <Aayush> Jordan_U, i add that way but whenn i minimize windows , it dosent show up there
[02:15] <Jason_WT> is ubuntu use md4 or md5 sum?
[02:15] <ziroday> dnyy: um raylu asked you to do that, both ways should work. You can pick who you want to go with :)
[02:15] <phuzion> Jason_WT, depends, what for?
[02:15] <dnyy> ziroday: http://pastebin.com/m6d571da1
[02:15] <powertool08> phuzion: just disable password logins in your sshd_config
[02:15] <dnyy> I just pasted both, heh.
[02:15] <phuzion> powertool08, only for one user'
[02:15] <Jordan_U> Aayush, You need to right click the pannel -> Add to pannel -> Window List
[02:16] <raylu> dnyy: no, mine was an answer to your question
[02:16] <basti> anyone here who uses coreavc for 720p movies? i tried it with windows -> video plays smoothly. with ubuntu -> not really :(  do you have any hints?
[02:16] <dnyy> raylu: ah, well it doesn't show sdb when I do  that, only sda1 and sda5
[02:16] <ziroday> dnyy: link?
[02:16] <dnyy> raylu & ziroday: http://pastebin.com/m6d571da1
[02:16] <Jason_WT> i am trying to make sure i have gotten the full iso
[02:17] <templaedhel> raylu: so I ca see what partitions are called what, aka so I know what to put in the menu.list
[02:17] <Firefishe> brb..need to reboot
[02:17] <raylu> templaedhel: devices.map
[02:17] <ziroday> dnyy: um, the drive was connected when you did that right?
[02:17] <andrewfree> ziroday: That got me very lost, now i screwed something up
[02:17] <dnyy> ziroday: yes, it's an internal HD.
[02:18] <pradeep_> Which is a nice linux supported 5.1 sound card  .. which fits in a express 54 slot
[02:18] <raylu> andrewfree: more specific, please
[02:18] <ziroday> dnyy: um okay, thats odd as it does not appear. one sec
[02:18] <templaedhel> command not found raylu:
[02:18] <dnyy> ziroday: kk. and yeah, usually any external drive i plug in mounts itself. :/
[02:18] <raylu> templaedhel: er, it's a file in /boot/grub
[02:19] <Jason_WT> was 8.11 released or is 8.10 the newest, i remember seeing that a new one was released
[02:19] <ziroday> dnyy: yeah, okay since its internal replace the UUID=bla bla bla bit in your /etc/fstab with /dev/sdb1
[02:19] <raylu> Jason_WT: the next one would be 9.04
[02:19] <KoFish> hi, im in desperate need of help!! my libxcb-render0.so.0 is gone
[02:19] <raylu> Jason_WT: (they aren't version numbers. yeah. i know.)
[02:19] <Gnea> Jason_WT: there was no 8.11, there is no 8.11, there will never be an 8.11
[02:19] <spike42> wait, ziroday, what are you responding too?
[02:19] <ziroday> dnyy: and that should work, after you restart
[02:19] <spike42> because that sounds like the answer to my problem too
[02:19] <samile> Ward1983: I'll just install epiphany and take a look (Opera user)
[02:19] <dnyy> ziroday: so it should be '/media/sdb1   /media/sdb   ext3   defaults   0   2'
[02:20] <ziroday> spike42: I am responding to dnyy, I have no idea what your problem is. Sorry.
[02:20] <Djet1313> Help needed: Whenever I attempt to look at Network under Places, I get "Could not display "network:"Nautilus cannot handle "network" locations."
[02:20] <Ward1983> samile, ok thanx
[02:20] <csc_> i really need the help of a guru about networking. here is the situation: i have an host A, which runs host B virtually with vbox. B connects to a VPN. Now what happens is that, although B can get a nameserver from the VPN and can resolve names, I cannot open a simple web page of an http server inside the VPN (so no proxy required), while I can do it from A if i connect to the same VPN. Comparing the routing table of A and B, they are the same. do you have any
[02:20] <csc_>  ideas?
[02:20] <ziroday> dnyy: nope, /dev/sdb1 instead of /media/sdb1
[02:20] <powertool08> phuzion: I dunno, not sure if its possible? I'm curious as to why you wouldn't keep all at passwords or move all to pubkey?
[02:20] <spike42> after the last grub update, the menu.lst entry for my xp partition is gone
[02:20] <DasEi> ? how do I tell xorg.conf to look for a serial mouse on com1 ?
[02:20] <ziroday> dnyy: and in /media the mountpoint is sdb correct?
[02:20] <raylu> csc_: i assume you've tried host/dig?
[02:21] <dnyy> ziroday: ooh, gotcha. so /dev/sdb1 first, then /media/sdb
[02:21] <dnyy> ziroday: yeah
[02:21] <Jason_WT> when was he newest one released
[02:21] <ziroday> dnyy: yep
[02:21] <KoFish> there is something wrong with the ubuntu repo it seems
[02:21] <templaedhel> raylu: thank you for all your help but that only gets me the harddrive, not the partitions
[02:21] <dnyy> ziroday: alright then, i'll brb after restart
[02:21] <csc_> raylu, i cannot ping since i virtualbox does not support ping. BUT i can use nslookup , and yes, i get the right ips
[02:21] <KoFish> i hade to manually download the deb from packages.ubuntu to get the right files
[02:21] <csc_> *right names
[02:21] <raylu> templaedhel: paritions are /dev/sd# - 1
[02:21] <victorloverain> d
[02:21] <ziroday> spike42: well that won't fix your problem, you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and put it in there. !grub has more info
[02:21] <raylu> templaedhel: er..yeah; you know what i mean =\
[02:21] <spike42> ok
[02:21] <phuzion> powertool08, I'm a sudoer on most of these boxes, and trying to become more security minded, so I want to use more secure methods of authentication
[02:21] <spike42> thanks
[02:22] <templaedhel> raylu: what about extended partitions
[02:22] <raylu> csc_: is this a windows machine?
[02:22] <Djet1313> Help needed: Whenever I attempt to look at Network under Places, I get "Could not display "network:"Nautilus cannot handle "network" locations."
[02:22] <phuzion> The idea is that I'll have two of the three possible authentication methods.  What you have (private key file on my flash drive) and what you know (decryption passphrase for the private key file).
[02:22] <csc_> raylu, both ubuntu, A and B
[02:22] <csc_> 8.10
[02:23] <csc_> the B host is the server edition
[02:23] <raylu> templaedhel: they shouldn't matter; the partitions should still have numbers (unless it's lvm or something strange :P)
[02:23] <csc_> the firewall is down
[02:23] <templaedhel> okay thanks
[02:23] <devin_> bah, no luck anyone have any idea how to fix usplash from changing to text mode when i boot? i added new hardware and not sure how to fix it
[02:24] <raylu> csc_: how are you trying to open the pages and what's the error?
[02:24] <dr_willis> devin_,  i normally disable the spash and framebuffer features in the grub menu.lst file. with the options 'nosplash nofb'
[02:24] <jamnz> question. i want to add a "network route" in terminal using route or ip route command. what is syntax of command to add a route to 10.72.184.3 ?
[02:25] <jamnz> thanks!
[02:25] <raylu> dr_willis: i think he wants the other way...
[02:25] <csc_> raylu, i am using lynx on an address of the vpn. the error is not diaplied.. it is always "in a connection state"
[02:25] <samile> Ward1983: sorry i'm messing you around here should have checked synaptic versions first. in synaptic/apt-get/aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree its already v 10
[02:26] <csc_> raylu, all the programs accessing to servers (not only that http) block and wait forver..
[02:26] <Jason_WT> is this the correct md5 for ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso?    24ea1163ea6c9f5dae77de8c49ee7c03
[02:26] <djet> Support needed: I'm attempting to retrieve files from an ftp server, but whenever i attempt to connect through Network>Places, I get the following error: "Could not display "network". Nautilus cannot handle "network" locations."
[02:26] <csc_> but i can get ip from names with nslookup
[02:26] <Ward1983> samile, in 64bit?
[02:26] <devin_> dr_willis now that you mention that i did notice an error about the framebuffer =/ but i couldn't find it in dmesg
[02:26] <Ward1983> samile, well that didnt work for epiphany either here, does it work there?
[02:27] <Ward1983> samile, i asked about flash10 because i heard it was a lot better on 64bit systems, i remember i had a ton of problems with flsh9 on my last installation
[02:27] <Ward1983> samile, (just did a fresh install)
[02:27] <Ward1983> old system was 7.10
[02:28] <Jordan_U> Ward1983, There is an alpha Flash 10 which is native 64 bit
[02:28] <dr_willis> I just find it much easier to disable the somwwhat useless framebuffer/splasy eyecandy
[02:28] <djet> Anyone?
[02:28] <mnemonic76> What is the fastest and most reliable way to copy approx 300GB of files from one drive to another?
[02:28] <onetinsoldier> they just updated the alpha Flash 10 a couple of days ago...
[02:28] <Firefishe> djet:  Are you trying to get a file form an ftp server, specifically?
[02:28] <mnemonic76> I would like some kind of data verification if possible.
[02:28] <Firefishe> form=from
[02:29] <axisys> is there a ubuntu pkg available for adobe air?
[02:29] <djet> Firefishe: Yes.
[02:29] <Ward1983> Jordan_U, i just installed it
[02:29] <Ward1983> Jordan_U, onyl workinf on firefox :(
[02:29] <djet> axisys: yeah, it's in beta.
[02:29] <Firefishe> djet: Have you considered a dedicated ftp client, like gftp or something?  It might work better for you.
[02:29] <Ward1983> Jordan_U, (i prefer epiphany)
[02:30] <djet> Firefishe: I have not. But the problem seems to extend to all the drives I need to connect to. Such as the other partitions on my drive.
[02:30] <raylu> csc_: strange. wget might help more
[02:30] <Firefishe> djet:  Ah, I see.  Might be a little beyond my ken then.  Sowwy ;)
[02:31] <raylu> djet: you get a network error when trying to access a local partition??
[02:31] <axisys> djet: where can I get the pkg?
[02:31] <djet> Firefishe: Okay. Well I found the following bug report referring to the same error, but it was about 10 months ago. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/185756
[02:31] <axisys> or should I wait till it come out with real version?
[02:31] <onetinsoldier> csc_: can you get packages that are on A installed onto B?
[02:31] <dnyy> ziroday: It shows up in the side panel in the file browser, but when I click it I get a "Directory does not Exist"  Also, for some odd reason, clicking the menu icon on the panel doesn't open a menu. ;o
[02:31] <djet> raylu: no. it's a problem dealing with nautilus though.
[02:31] <raylu> djet: wait...wrong person
[02:32] <mnemonic76> I need to copy about 300GB of files from an internal HD to an external HD to change the filesystem on the internal HD... what is the best command?
[02:32] <raylu> djet: wait, not wrong person
[02:32] <DasEi> what can I do when machine hangs at bootup ?
[02:32] <mnemonic76> Or should I just drag and drop, and hope it's all good?
[02:32] <djet> axisys: on the adobe site
[02:32] <djet> raylu: haha
[02:32] <raylu> djet: what do you mean problem dealing with nautilus?
[02:32] <raylu> DasEi: take off the quiet option
[02:32] <ziroday> dnyy: okay, can you pastebin ls -l /media please
[02:32] <csc_> onetinsoldier, i dont understand what you mean..
[02:32] <Jason_WT> what is the alternate cd?
[02:32] <Jordan_U> jamnz, "ip route network/prefix gateway"
[02:33] <axisys> djet: i know.. i was looking for the pkg.. ofcourse i can just download the installer
[02:33] <Ward1983> mnemonic76, its jsut data right? or is there a OS on it?
[02:33] <c0l2e> what's the current kernel of ubuntu 8.10 ??
[02:33] <dnyy> ziroday: http://pastebin.com/m3dc3a976 sdb is empty when I go to it, though
[02:33] <onetinsoldier> csc_: A can download and install updates for instance? am i correct? can B do the same?
[02:33] <djet> raylu: like when i click on computer from places i get  Could not display "computer". Nautilus cannot handle "computer" locations."
[02:33] <DasEi> ﻿raylu: did that, same as safe mode, hangs at "running local bootscipts in rc.local ) (which is empty exept exit 0)
[02:34] <Ward1983> mnemonic76, if there's an OS on it check dd, thats a tool to make images of partitions
[02:34] <ziroday> dnyy: hmm, when you do mount -a are there any errors?
[02:34] <mnemonic76> Ward1983: Just a ton of files on an NTFS drive... I need to reformat as ext3 or vfat or something to use for vista backups...
[02:35] <dnyy> ziroday: yes, http://pastebin.com/m3cb51861
[02:35] <mnemonic76> long story, just know that vista backup will not write to the drive if formatted as NTFS.
[02:35] <DasEi> !alternate | ﻿Jason_WT
[02:35] <sef> How do you set up a wiki or is there a tutorial in Ubuntu Documentation that I have missed??  (Required for Ubuntu Membership.)
[02:35] <csc_> onetinsoldier, yes
[02:35] <Scutum> hi Im selling my computer on ebay if anybody is interested
[02:35] <Ward1983> im very confused now :s
[02:35] <Scutum> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190273190691&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=009
[02:35] <csc_> onetinsoldier, i am in A now
[02:35] <csc_> onetinsoldier, B works fine outside the vpn
[02:35] <ziroday> dnyy: gah, when you do mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 are there any errors?
[02:35] <Ward1983> mnemonic76, so you are saying vista cannot write on NTFS partitions? :s
[02:36] <raylu> djet: oh...strange
[02:36] <onetinsoldier> csc_: ok. let's say you want to get a package, you can get it on A. could this package then be installed onto B from A? that is my question.
[02:36] <Jason_WT> is it all commands or stuff like when some others ask you what is your language and stuff
[02:36] <dnyy> ziroday: must specify filesystem type
[02:36] <Jason_WT> like i press numbers from a list of choices to install it
[02:36] <ziroday> dnyy: one sec
[02:36] <ziroday> dnyy: hmm does your drive appear in gparted?
[02:36] <mnemonic76> There is some kind of bug with Vista backup and the ACL? I don't know all the details, but my wife's laptop has vista, and the backup prog used to work.
[02:37] <onetinsoldier> csc_: is B able to download and install packages and updates directly then?
[02:37] <onetinsoldier> or*
[02:37] <csc_> onetinsoldier, why not, trough ssh for instance: i can copy the package to B and then install it from A
[02:37] <mnemonic76> I finally worked out the vista/ubuntu network sharing issues, and now there is some kind of filesystem bug.
[02:37] <csc_> onetinsoldier, yes, but when outside the vpn
[02:37] <keres> gimp keeps crashin.
[02:38] <ziroday> dnyy: also does mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb
[02:38] <Wickk> what's the desktop environment that Xubuntu uses?
[02:38] <mnemonic76> So I want to just workaround the problem by reformatting the partition to ext3 or vfat.
[02:38] <dr_willis> Wickk,  XFXCE
[02:38] <dr_willis> Wickk,  XFCE
[02:38] <woody86_> FAJALOU, ok, I updated my comp, disabled the driver, restarted my computer, reinstalled the driver and restalted my comp but it's still not detecting my network
[02:38] <csc_> onetinsoldier, i can attach to internet from B when outside the vpn. i can control B from A always, in or out the vpn
[02:38] <Wickk> dr_willis: thanks
[02:38] <onetinsoldier> csc_: ok. i recommend installing a nice little networking monitor and info tool on both machines, called 'iptraf'. it 'might' give you some insight into what's the problem is
[02:38] <Tyrath> the last update I did (ie, today's update) installed some replacement password thing. - is that going to affect my ability to log in?
[02:38] <csc_> onetinsoldier, ok let me see
[02:39] <dnyy> ziroday: Same error about missing fs type, bad option, bad superblock, etc
[02:39] <checkers> halp can't install flashplayer-nonfree, it downloads the file from adobe but says 'md5sum mismatch'
[02:39] <ziroday> dnyy: even with -t ext3?
[02:39] <onetinsoldier> csc_: ok, sorry, but i probably can't be of much more help that that little suggestion
[02:39] <Tyrath> anyone?
[02:39] <Tyrath> did anyone install today's update?
[02:39] <dnyy> ziroday: yeah. :/
[02:39] <bshak1> I need help port forwarding with Apache on Ubuntu.  Right now, when I enter my domain name, it takes me to the router page.  I can enter the computer's IP Address and it will show me the website.  I know I need to forward the ports.  How do I do that?
[02:40] <onetinsoldier> Tyrath: yes... i think so. i got updates earlier this morning anyway. mostly to do with Firefox
[02:40] <bshak1> the website works on my internal network when i type in the ip address
[02:40] <ziroday> dnyy: well I am out of ideas, it could be that the drive is badly formatted. You can format it with gparted but thats a long shot. Anyway I got to run, good luck.
[02:40] <eseven73> bshak1: that is done by accessing your routers admin page
[02:40] <mohadib> hello
[02:40] <bshak1> ok... but what do i do on the admin page?
[02:40] <dnyy> ziroday: alright, thanks.  i formated it the first time with gparted.
[02:40] <dnyy> ziroday: should I use something else instead?
[02:40] <mohadib> to make fusesmb work i just need to do fusesmb /mnt/point ?
[02:41] <mohadib> im doiing that but nothing is showing up at the mount point
[02:41] <eseven73> bshak1: usually its 192.168.0.1 or what not then once you're in, there should be a menu that allows you to forward port 80
[02:41] <Izinucs> bshak1: also you're isp might block port 80 as their fair use rules typically rule out the running of servers.
[02:41] <Jason_WT> is the alternate smaller on aize?
[02:41] <Jason_WT> size*
[02:42] <R0b0t1> What is the dpkg command to get a file of all installed packages?
[02:42] <DasEi>  ﻿Jason_WT: a very little
[02:43] <eseven73> dpkg -l R0b0t1
[02:43] <Jason_WT> what about 6.06 and 8.10?
[02:43] <Jason_WT> reqular cd
[02:44] <onetinsoldier> R0b0t1: dpkg -l | less   -or-   dpkg --get-selections > packages && less packages
[02:45] <onetinsoldier> R0b0t1: from your question i think you want the second one...   dpkg --get-selection > packages
[02:45] <onetinsoldier> R0b0t1: from your question i think you want the second one...   dpkg --get-selections > packages
[02:46] <lucent> did anyone see a black cat just pass me by... twice?
[02:46] <R0b0t1> onetinsoldier: Yes, I do. Thank you :)
[02:46] <Philip_> hello I was wondering if some one could tell me how to boot to ubuntu on Vista Home Preium
[02:46] <onetinsoldier> R0b0t1: you're welcome.   and lucent, lol. sorry
[02:47] <GodfatherofEire> How would I go about applying the flash-nonfree plugin for FF, because it says theres nothin installed
[02:47] <lanwanman> Philip_: use vmware
[02:47] <lucent> Philip_: stick cd into drive... reboot?
[02:47] <fbc> how can I tell what apps are consuming memory from the command line?
[02:47] <R0b0t1> lucent: No, it was a white dog.
[02:47] <bshak1> I know how to get into my router... I am using the latest linksys firmware
[02:47] <Philip_> tried
[02:47] <woody86_> can anyone help me get my wireless working? It works so far, but I can't find any networks on it
[02:47] <bshak1> how do I do the port forwarding?
[02:47] <Firefishe> GodfatherofEire:  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:47] <lanwanman> make sure bios is set to boot on cd in first priority
[02:47] <lucent> fbc: "top" or "ps aux" ...  well there's better ways to do that
[02:47] <GodfatherofEire> firefishe, I know, I did that, FF isnt recognizing it
[02:47] <Firefishe> GodfatherofEire:  stwange
[02:47] <GodfatherofEire> I'll say
[02:47] <lucent> fbc: ps and top are some pretty well documented methods though and work on any *nix
[02:47] <Philip_> ok that I didn't try woops lol will I need to reinstall it first or will it boot and install?
[02:47] <Firefishe> GodfatherofEire:  64bit or 32bit user space?
[02:48] <GodfatherofEire> firefishe 32
[02:48] <Guest62726> I'm trying to install a theme from gnome-look but it won't work because I need a gtk+ engine...I don't know what that is or where to get one. Sorry, I know it's a dumb question, but could someone help me.
[02:48] <lucent> Philip_: depending on how shady and strange your install was alongside Vista, it may be that the bootloader was not "engaged" properly or that Vista just peed all over it
[02:48] <Firefishe> GodfatherofEire:  Dunno then, as it's working with mine.  Ummm, did you restart FF?  If not, I'd do a reboot, then try it agian.
[02:48] <fbc> lucent, thanks
[02:49] <lucent> Philip_: it's a complicated thing to diagnose in one or two sentences, got 10 minutes?  hit me on privmsg we'll walk through it
[02:49] <GodfatherofEire> Firefishe, yeah, still didnt work
[02:49] <Tyrath> onetinsoldier: so they do reset the password?
[02:49] <Philip_> ok thank you
[02:49] <Tyrath> does anyone know what the login and password update today do?
[02:49] <phpmonk> when i start xampp on ubuntu it gives error in browser when i access "http://localhost" as Forbidden, please help
[02:50] <Jason_WT> what is a ibex
[02:50] <Tyrath> asin today's login and password update
[02:50] <onetinsoldier> Tyrath: ?? sorry, i must be forgetting something i spoke to you about
[02:50] <Tyrath> !ibex | Jason_WT
[02:50] <Izinucs> !ibex | Jason_WT
[02:50] <lanwanman> phpmonk: you don't have a websever on your localhost
[02:50] <Tyrath> onetinsoldier: have you restarted since the updates?
[02:50] <stovicek> Tyrath: those were security updates.
[02:50] <Firefishe> GodfatherofEire:  Do not rightly know then, unless the symlink got trashed somehow.  I think there needs to be a symlink pointing to the plugin directory where libflashplugin.so is located, perhaps in ~/.mozilla/plugins, or something similar. If not, try re-installing it.
[02:50] <uaa> I'm trying to install a theme from gnome-look but it won't work because I need a gtk+ engine...I don't know what that is or where to get one. Sorry, I know it's a dumb question, but could someone help me.
[02:51] <phpmonk> lanwanman: I have and it started correctly thats why it gives "Forbidden"
[02:51] <onetinsoldier> Tyrath: no. but it should not reset the passwords
[02:51] <Tyrath> stovicek: ah k. cause it said go here for the password replacement file or something
[02:51] <Timmothy> Kay, so I installed Archlinux, found out it was being annoying to boot my Ubuntu and XP partitions so I went into SystemRescueCD and deleted its partition. Now whenever I try to boot grub gives me an error 17. Any ideas as to how I might fix?
[02:51] <asanford> firefox3 ignores local bind server any ideas any one
[02:51] <lanwanman> you have an ssl cert?
[02:51] <Tyrath> onetinsoldier: awesome
[02:51] <onetinsoldier> :-)
[02:51] <lanwanman> try https
[02:51] <phpmonk> lanwanman: I am not accessing ssl
[02:51] <Izinucs> Timmothy: google grub error 17 .. there's lots to read
[02:51] <Tyrath> has anyone managed to get skype working for bitlbee?
[02:52] <uaa123> ok nickname problem fixed...can anyone explain theme engines?
[02:52] <Timmothy> yes, there is a lot, but I'm on a budget of time.
[02:52] <Timmothy> I need to get back into Windows really fast-like
[02:52] <phpmonk> lanwanman: still "Forbidden" even i accept ssl certificate
[02:52] <raylu> Tyrath: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shadow
[02:52] <lanwanman> using firefox?
[02:53] <raylu> !who | lanwanman
[02:53] <srinidhi> how do I find out what DVD drive I have via terminal?
[02:53] <raylu> Tyrath: what's the point of skype on bitlbee...?
[02:53] <Pelo> after today's firefox upgrade flashblock no longer works for me, does it do that for everyone ?
[02:53] <Tyrath> raylu: because i can get everything going through one client
[02:54] <Tyrath> raylu: and you can make calls and everything
[02:54] <Firefishe> Pelo...you may need to update your extensions
[02:54] <raylu> Tyrath: skype is voice chat...
[02:54] <Firefishe> add-ons, that is
[02:54] <Tyrath> raylu: yeah, and the plugin allows it through bitlbee
[02:54] <phpmonk> I am starting lampp as root and trying to access localhost by other user, is that ok? please anyone help
[02:54] <raylu> Tyrath: ...???
[02:54] <Tyrath> raylu: it connects to the skype server
[02:54] <raylu> Tyrath: how would you voice chat over irc?
[02:54] <srinidhi> how do I find out what specific DVD drive I have?
[02:54] <srinidhi> via Terminal?
[02:54] <raylu> srinidhi: try lspci
[02:55] <Tyrath> raylu: well i think it loads up the basic process from the skype client that allows you to do that
[02:55] <uaa123> I'm sorry if this is a basic question, but I know that someone knows what I'm talking about. Could anyone explain to me what a gtk+ theme engine is so I can use my theme.
[02:55] <raylu> Tyrath: i don't understand
[02:55] <Pelo> Firefishe, thanks for replying but I've done that already , no update for the pluggin, which is why I ask if it's just me or eveyone
[02:55] <Tyrath> raylu: there's a plugin bitlbee-skype have a hunt. you can do things like account set skype/call <number>
[02:55] <banisterfiend> hey guys how do i find what version of ubuntu i have?
[02:55] <Firefishe> Pelo..k.  I'm not using it actively, so I don't know at this time.
[02:56] <Firefishe> banisterfiend:  uname -a will give you lots of information on the kernel, etc.
[02:56] <srinidhi> raylu: didn't show it.
[02:56] <tgr7> how do i transfer files from a virtualbox computer to the ubuntu desktop and vice versa
[02:56] <tritium> banisterfiend: lsb_release -a
[02:56] <eseven73> banisterfiend: lsb_release -a
[02:56] <paranoid_ndroid>  how can I record the sound output from an application that's being played through the speakers?
[02:56] <Firefishe> tritium:  ah, thank you...that helps me too :)
[02:56] <banisterfiend> ok 8.04 ;)
[02:56] <tritium> Firefishe: :)
[02:56] <phpmonk> my webserver give me "Forbidden" page. please help
[02:56] <banisterfiend> is 8.04 so old now that i should upgrade? :D
[02:57] <tgr7> paranoid i think you can get audacity
[02:57] <clay> I've got a basic question - sorry if it's a repeat.  3 of us share a computer.  I'd like to set up a Music, Video, Pictures, and Document file that all 3 of us can share.  Any ideas on how to do this?
[02:57] <Izinucs> banisterfiend: no it is LTS.. long term support.. it's good for 3 years.
[02:57] <eseven73> phpmonk: install a real LAMP xampp is kinda crappy, especially when it comes to mysql stuff
[02:57] <Firefishe> tritium:  Yep!  Seems I"m using 8.10 Intrepid.  Working nicely so far.  Debian Lenny was giving me such a pinch!
[02:57] <eseven73> !lamp
[02:58] <tgr7> clay i think you can use samba or something like this
[02:58] <phpmonk> eseven73: Ya, iknow bout i am using mod_perl so it is easy so i am using
[02:58] <Izinucs> clay: it's on the same machine? samba is not the answer.. share the directories.
[02:58] <lanwanman> phpmonk: did you install an ssl cert on your webserver?
[02:59] <phpmonk> lanwanman: its nothing to do with ssl certificate, it is some permission related problem
[02:59] <bshak1> I am trying to do port forwarding.  I know how to access my router's page. I am running Ubuntu with Apache as the server.  I have a domain name.  My router is running the latest Linksys firmware.  I have multiple computers.  How can I tell my router to forward the user to a specific computer
[02:59] <bshak1> I know I need to change some setting on my router... but I don't know what.  Can anyone tell me what setting I need to change and what I need to change it to?  Also, do I need to change any of my computer's settings and if so, what do I change and how?
[02:59] <flakeparadigm> Hello
[02:59] <banisterfiend> thanks homies
[02:59] <flakeparadigm> Does anyone know of a good virtual machine software that I can host a web server in.
[03:00] <clay> Izinucs, yes all on the same computer. By sharing do you mean setting permissions or installing the windows sharing?
[03:00] <raylu> bshak1: have you set your apache box up with a static ip?
 paranoid i think you can get audacity : already tried. it doesn't recognize the input
[03:00] <Izinucs> flakeparadigm: vmware server or virtualbox
[03:00] <flakeparadigm> ok
[03:00] <raylu> flakeparadigm: why do you need a virtual machine?
[03:00] <syuroff> flakeparadigm: I host multiple machines on vmware server
[03:00] <MrWizeGuy1983> how do you get a terminal up from the ubuntu install disk?
[03:00] <uaa123> I'm trying to install a theme in 8.10 that I used in 8.04. It won't install because it says I need to install a gtk+ theme engine. What is this?
[03:00] <MrWizeGuy1983> I need to fix an error 18 grub problem
[03:00] <flakeparadigm> syuroff: is vmware in the repositories?
[03:00] <Jason_WT> how do you pernounce ubuntu?
[03:00] <Izinucs> clay: yea.. I think that will work.. right mouse click the folder and tag sharing..
[03:00] <eseven73> !pronoucne
[03:00] <Jason_WT> like you-bun-two>
[03:00] <raylu> lol...
[03:00] <syuroff> flakeparadigm: I think so...
[03:01] <raylu> !pronounce
[03:01] <eseven73> !pronounce
[03:01] <eseven73> i can spell ty raylu
[03:01] <eseven73> just typoed :)
[03:01] <raylu> eseven73: yes, but two typos
[03:01] <syuroff> flakeparadigm: howtoforge has some decent walkthroughs
 thanks
[03:01] <clay> Izinucs, Thanks I'll give it a try.
[03:01] <Styles> Whats the command ls pcie ?
[03:01] <uaa123> Jason_WT "ooboontoo
[03:02] <eseven73> yea raylu that was one typo ok :)
[03:02] <syuroff> trying to add php5-mcrypt to a feisty server, getting "Package php5-mcrypt is not available, but is referred to by another package."....
[03:02] <raylu> eseven73: Jason_WT typoed it too, which is why it was funny
[03:02] <eseven73> lol
[03:02] <syuroff> I know feisty is past support, but are things being taken out of the repositories?
[03:02] <uaa123> can anyone explain gtk+ theme engines to me...or just tell me how to install one so I can use this theme?
[03:03] <mxweas> How can I change the login background of gdm?
[03:03] <tgr7> mxweas system administration login window
[03:03] <mxweas> thank you
[03:03] <dashavoo> Hi, I am trying to talk a friend in France through configuring ubuntu, we are trying to get fglrx drivers to work since the default install won't give him any decent resolutions, but aticonfig --initial segfaults, can anyone tell me if there is any way to manually do what that would usually do, or if there is a way to stop it segfaulting?
[03:04] <Jason_WT> do you think this is a good avatar http://uploads.mibbit.com/up/hR5eRxeQ.png ?
[03:04] <dashavoo> it would be a lot easier if I could see the screen =(
[03:04] <uaa123> this is the first time that no one has even acknowledged that I have a question. Does nobody know?
[03:04] <tgr7>  hi i was wondering how i can send files back and forth between ubuntu desktop and a windows 2000 virtualbox
[03:04] <tritium> Firefishe: glad to hear it.  :)
[03:04] <syuroff> flakeparadigm:  n/p
[03:04] <Jason_WT> use the shared folders
[03:04] <tgr7> uaa123 try going to a website called gnome look
[03:05] <dashavoo> uaa123, get used to it, happens to me all the time :)
[03:05] <mario> hello, I'm having trouble installing drivers for the realtek  soundchip on an Asus Intel G35 mobo, 64 bit
[03:05] <bambuz> whoops wrong name
[03:05] <bambuz> i got the driver zip from Asus and use the install script but it stops
[03:05] <bambuz> alsamixer says no device
[03:06] <uaa123> tgr7 I went to gnome look to get a theme that I used in 8.04. When I go to install the theme I'm told the theme won't look as intended because the required theme engine is not installed.
[03:06] <bambuz> realtek-linux-audiopakc-4.06
[03:06] <MrWizeGuy1983> i really need help fixing an error 18 with grub
[03:06] <MrWizeGuy1983> my friend needs to leave tomorrow with the computer to give to her parents and it's not working...
[03:06] <lucent> uaa123: Gtk1 and Gtk2 and Qt, ... etc. every one has a different layout, you'd be better off asking about this in a Gnome developer mailing list in the context of where to find the documentation
[03:06] <raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: more details, please
[03:07] <MrWizeGuy1983> raylu, error 18 when grub should be loading
[03:07] <MrWizeGuy1983> any ideas?
[03:07] <uaa123> lucent okay thank you for the response
[03:07] <raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: in answer to your previous question, it's in the applications menu. also, alt+f2, gnome-terminal
[03:07] <lucent> uaa123: it's not fun.  That much I've been told by developers of large-ish apps
[03:07] <raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: have you googled?
[03:07] <dashavoo> uaa123, apt-get install gtk2-engines*
[03:07] <MrWizeGuy1983> yeah, i saw it on the gnome documentation
[03:07] <dashavoo> chances are one will work
[03:07] <MrWizeGuy1983> but i'm having a heck of a time fixing it
[03:07] <paranoid_ndroid>  how can I record the sound output from an application that's being played through the speakers?
[03:08] <raylu> !who | MrWizeGuy1983
[03:08] <lucent> paranoid_ndroid: depends on which API is being used to output sound
[03:08] <Jason_WT> what is JeOS for
[03:08] <Tyrath> what does disable the root password for virtual mean?
[03:08] <tgr7> uaa123 have you gone to the theme manager in ubuntu?
[03:08] <lucent> paranoid_ndroid: do you want to intercept the sound being mixed by your audio device, or the audio data that's being sent from the application?
[03:08] <powertool08> I set my screen to big desktop mode with aticonfig -dtop=horizontal, kdm starts in this mode and it works like it should under one user, but when I log into my main user the screen flashes and it reverts to clone mode. Does anyone know what could cause this?
[03:09] <paranoid_ndroid> I want to intercept the sound
[03:09] <paranoid_ndroid> and record it in .ogg, for example
[03:09] <raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: could i see /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[03:09] <dashavoo> powertool08, can you send me your aticonfig binary please?
[03:09] <Jason_WT> is ubuntu JeOS made to be used in like vbox?
[03:09] <Tyrath> - that's apprently one of the updates of today's apt upgrade
[03:09] <MrWizeGuy1983> raylu, i can't get any of that, it's a brand new install and i can't get to ubuntu
[03:09] <paranoid_ndroid> lucent: I'm using a synth: ZynAddSubFX
[03:09] <simon_r> hi. i need some help with a bad install w/intrepid
[03:09] <powertool08> dashavoo: the binary? I'm using the driver from ati's site
[03:09] <MrWizeGuy1983> i'm using my laptop (which has had linux since a year ago when i got it)
[03:09] <lucent> paranoid_ndroid: ohh... Zyn
[03:09] <dashavoo> powertool08, I can't help with your problem atall, but it will help with my friends :P
[03:09] <raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: i thought you were on a livecd?
[03:10] <lucent> paranoid_ndroid: are you using it with JACK?
[03:10] <MrWizeGuy1983> no, i'm booting a livecd on it right now but it takes a while
[03:10] <MrWizeGuy1983> it's not up yet raylu
[03:10] <paranoid_ndroid> lucent, no, but I have JACK installed
[03:10] <raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: ok; pastebin it whenever you're ready
[03:10] <lucent> paranoid_ndroid: hit me on privsmg, I'll help you out
[03:10] <MrWizeGuy1983> alright
[03:10] <oo> iiiii
[03:10] <paranoid_ndroid> lucent, thank you
[03:10] <MrWizeGuy1983> i'm not sure if i should follow the instructions on the grub man page from the livecd or not
[03:10] <raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: and again, i'm likely to miss messages from you if you don't put my name in them
[03:11] <Styles> How do you veiew what PCIE devices you have installed?
[03:11] <MrWizeGuy1983> i wish i could get direct into a terminal from the ubuntu cd raylu
[03:11] <powertool08> dashavoo: what do you mean by binary? the actual driver file? the name/version of it? something else?
[03:11] <raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: 10:07:23       raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: in answer to your previous question, it's in the applications menu. also, alt+f2, gnome-terminal
[03:11] <MrWizeGuy1983> i hate having to boot the whole thing with X and all, i'm better with terminal usually
[03:11] <dashavoo> powertool08, /usr/bin/aticonfig
[03:11] <jpastore> is there something like "yum whatprovides" in ubuntu?
[03:11] <MrWizeGuy1983> no i mean directly, not gksudo gnome-terminal
[03:11] <MrWizeGuy1983> i mean just a root shell direct from cd without waiting to boot raylu
[03:12] <chairman> is anyone having problems w/their webcams
[03:12] <raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: i think you can configure the kernel parameters...but you're going to need a web browser
[03:12] <powertool08> dashavoo: oh... don't really have a way of sending you the executable itself... but like I said, straight from ati's site
[03:12] <MrWizeGuy1983> elinks is great raylu  lol
[03:12] <raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: heh
[03:12] <dashavoo> powertool08, alright, thanks
[03:12] <MrWizeGuy1983> unfortunately i'm not having much fun getting this stupid thing to work
[03:12] <vermont> hi there. I heard something about a program, or something, that had 'envy' in the title. I'm looking for a driver for my nvidia card. Can I sudo it? does anyone know the command exactly?
[03:12] <bambuz> no help for my sound problem?
[03:12] <Arrowhead212002> whats crackin
[03:12] <raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: you should poke around the parameters and set the runlevel to 3
[03:12] <MrWizeGuy1983> i have to be able to get to a terminal to do my magic lol
[03:12] <KillerOrca> Ok, I am trying to use a Gparted livecd to copy one install from one hdd to another, but it won't move it over, anyone done this before?
[03:13] <Tyrath> actually sorry
[03:13] <Tyrath> !virtual machine
[03:13] <MrWizeGuy1983> raylu, i'm not sure where to set run level or which parameters you're talking about, what's the config file?
[03:13] <raylu> !kqemu
[03:13] <MrWizeGuy1983> i fear the livecd has frozen, it's taking forever to boot to it raylu
[03:13] <raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: before you boot, it's f4 (i think)
[03:13] <MrWizeGuy1983> nevermind...just went
[03:13] <Tyrath> !vm-builder
[03:13] <MrWizeGuy1983> oh awesome, thanks raylu but what do you type?
[03:14] <Tyrath> eh :/
[03:14] <powertool08> dashavoo: I used the ati-driver-installer-8-8-x86.x86_x64.run script to install it
[03:14] <raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: i haven't messed with it. the only thing i've used it for is to turn off acpi
[03:14] <Jason_WT> what is a torrent file
[03:14] <raylu> Jason_WT: google
[03:14] <Tyrath> Jason_WT: something you can extract using a torrent program like rtorrent
[03:15] <raylu> i don't think you meant "extract"
[03:15] <Jason_WT> so it is like a zip file
[03:15] <cakey> hey Jason_WT
[03:15] <vermont>  hi there. I heard something about a program, or something, that had 'envy' in the title. I'm looking for a driver for my nvidia card. Can I sudo it? does anyone know the command exactly?
[03:15] <cakey> seriously..
[03:15] <dashavoo> powertool08, thanks, I will have a look for that... all I can say about the ati stuff in the repositories is "grrr!"
[03:15] <Tyrath> raylu: how so?
[03:15] <Tyrath> !torrent | Jason_WT
[03:15] <cakey> Jason_WT:  and everyone who doesnt know what Torrent is...
[03:15] <cakey> http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=What+is+a+Torrent
[03:15] <cakey> ._.
[03:15] <Jason_WT> cakey: what
[03:15] <Tyrath> Jason_WT: actually scrap that
[03:16] <cakey> GO!!!!!!!!!!
[03:16] <raylu> Tyrath: the torrent file merely describes the torrent and lists trackers. you don't extract it. see jason's last message
[03:16] <cakey> Jason_WT: http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=What+is+a+Torrent
[03:16] <cuonglb> hey guys
[03:16] <cakey> same link for those who dunno what torrents are
[03:16] <Wyzard> vermont: "envy" is the name of an in-development free driver for nVidia graphics cards, but I don't think it's reached a ready-for-general-use stage yet
[03:16] <cakey> >:[
[03:16] <vermont> Wyzard, so what can I do about my Nvidia card?
[03:16] <littlejimmy> what's up boys?rn
[03:16] <raylu> !nvidia | vermont
[03:16] <cakey> hi girl
[03:17] <Tyrath> raylu: so you're saying you can go into this list, find the paths of the files and install them without a torrent application?
[03:17] <Wyzard> vermont: hmm, no, I'm wrong, envy is an installer for drivers; the driver I was thinking of is called "nouveau"
[03:17] <vermont> also: raylu, thanks.
[03:17] <|GaiJin|> is there a way to increase the volume on my laptop, even though i have set everything to max??
[03:17] <raylu> Tyrath: what?
[03:17] <vermont> oh ok, wyzard, thank you
[03:17] <malianx> |GaiJin|, get an amp?
[03:17] <raylu> Tyrath: the torrent appplication processes the torrent file and downloads it from other peers given by the tracker
[03:17] <raylu> Tyrath: there are no "paths" to files
[03:17] <Tyrath> raylu: ah k
[03:17] <littlejimmy> how is your uncle?rn
[03:17] <|GaiJin|> yeah
[03:17] <cakey> Jason_WT: http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=What+is+a+Torrent
[03:17] <Jason_WT> so is the ubuntu torrent file an iso image that i need to use a client to get out
[03:17] <|GaiJin|> it was that then
[03:18] <Wyzard> vermont: Anyway, Ubuntu's own "hardware drivers" window should be able to install the driver for your nVidia card
[03:18] <raylu> Jason_WT: i suggest cakey's link
[03:18] <Tyrath> raylu: actually that would make sense
[03:18] <Tyrath> raylu: hence why the torrent file itself is pretty small
[03:18] <malianx> Jason_WT, A torrent file is pretty much just text. It shows your client how to connect to other clients to download the file(s) in question.
[03:18] <roosel> is there a task manager in gnome ?
[03:18] <malianx> Jason_WT, Open it with deluge, wait a while
[03:18] <TriBeCa99> having trouble with an install, if anyone can help
[03:19] <cakey> Tyrath: http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=Why+is+a+Torrent+file+so+small
[03:19] <Tyrath> raylu: ever since torrents started giving me viruses i've tended to keep clear of them. being on ubuntu may change that
[03:19] <raylu> it also shows how not to connect to other clients, information which bitcomet parses and promptly ignores
[03:19] <Tyrath> cakey: thanks but raylu just explained it to me
[03:19] <TriBeCa99> i have 4 1TB drives, i'm looking to software raid them into 2TB of raid10
[03:19] <malianx> roosel, system -> admin -> system monitor
[03:19] <raylu> Tyrath: <3 private trackers
[03:19] <cakey> demonoid <3
[03:19] <dashavoo> Tyrath, if you got a virus from a torrent you are downloading the wrong stuff ;)
[03:19] <cakey> thats where i got most of my games
[03:19] <TriBeCa99> is there a way to set that up before installing?
[03:19] <Jason_WT> so it just tells the client where to go to get the actual iso image?
[03:19] <malianx> cakey, careful someone might narc
[03:19] <Tyrath> dashavoo: well that may be true...
[03:20] <raylu> TriBeCa99: software to set up raid? um...
[03:20] <TriBeCa99> ubuntu software raid
[03:20] <TriBeCa99> i also have fakeraid on the MB
[03:20] <snake_> hello to all
[03:20] <Wyzard> TriBeCa99: The "alternate" install CD can do that, I believe
[03:20] <Tyrath> dashavoo: even downloading cracks gave me viruses tho lol
[03:20] <TriBeCa99> i've got it
[03:20] <Wyzard> TriBeCa99: just pick manual partitioning
[03:20] <TriBeCa99> did
[03:20] <TriBeCa99> deleted the partitions on the drives
[03:20] <raylu> oh hey, whatdyaknow. that's what raid10 is :P
[03:20] <Tyrath> dashavoo: and crack's are conveniance given you have a habit of loosing CDs
[03:20] <TriBeCa99> but can't figure a way to RAID them
[03:20] <vermont> is there away to turn stop ubuntu from making me type my password in all the time?
[03:20] <dashavoo> Tyrath, what? you got a virus downloading a CRACK!?!??! omgwtf
[03:20] <malianx> vermont, man sudo
[03:20] <dashavoo> Tyrath, I agree with you about losing cds
[03:21] <Setebos> I have a home network and on a network drive I have a windows game installed that is meant to run on my brothers windows computer. How can I run it on mine without installing anything?
[03:21] <cakey> L2Pirate
[03:21] <Tyrath> dashavoo: lol. yeah not the best :/
[03:21] <snake_> i have an ispconfig problem. it doesnt autostart and its a ssl cert fault because i selected yes for ssl cert during the install. can anyone tell me how to disable or delete it ? thank you
[03:21] <c0l2e> can I use qemu to test a liveCd ??
[03:21] <Wyzard> TriBeCa99: On each drive, make a single partition that fills the whole drive, and set its type to "physical volume for RAID"
[03:21] <raylu> Setebos: also, how does one fly without leaving the ground?
[03:21] <c0l2e> how can I graphically boot a liveCD using qemu ?
[03:21] <Wyzard> TriBeCa99: then choose "configure software RAID"
[03:21] <TriBeCa99> Wyzard: ok one sec
[03:21] <raylu> !qemu | c0l2e
[03:21] <raylu> er...
[03:21] <Setebos> raylu: So your saying I can't run it from another computer?
[03:22] <syuroff> why would it be impossible to find php5-mcrypt_5.1.2-1ubuntu1_i386.deb in any of the mirrors?
[03:22] <raylu> Setebos: you'd have to install either windows or wine
[03:22] <Tyrath> so if i'm not wrong the last ubuntu update secures the login so that other's can't bypass your root password through hacking into your system through a virtual machine?
[03:22] <powertool08> Nobody knows why one user would log in with extended monitor setup while another logs in as clone mode?
[03:22] <raylu> c0l2e: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/QemuEmulator
[03:22] <Tyrath> or something like that...
[03:22] <Setebos> raylu: I have wine installed already. I didn't expect it to run without that. I man without installing the game.
[03:23] <raylu> Tyrath: yes...something like that
[03:23] <Tyrath> dashavoo: hopefully there aren't many linux viruses on torrents that will affect me
[03:23] <raylu> Setebos: so...why can't you just wine the game?
[03:24] <keres> does this syntax for scons look right: 'sudo scons build="release"'?
[03:24] <TriBeCa99> @Wyzard: I see there's no RAID10
[03:24] <TriBeCa99> any idea how raid 5 stacks up?
[03:24] <Tyrath> raylu: did you look up the bitlbee-skype project?
[03:24] <keres> wait, yes, nm
[03:24] <raylu> Tyrath: yes...it requires skype running :(
[03:25] <TriBeCa99> i understand it's not as good with software/fakeraid solutions because it's CPU bound and takes longer to calculate parity
[03:25] <phpmonk> can anyone tell how to install apache2-mod-perl lib?
[03:25] <Tyrath> raylu: i thought it only required the skype server to be running :/
[03:25] <Tyrath> raylu: like that was the skyped program
[03:25] <Jason_WT> is there a can for bittorrent?
[03:25] <Wyzard> TriBeCa99: I used to have a 3x750GB RAID-5 and I added a fourth disk and converted it to RAID-10 for performance reasons
[03:25] <Jason_WT> chan*
[03:25] <TriBeCa99> hmm
[03:25] <Tyrath> raylu: as such you could save RAM in not loading up the full skype app
[03:25] <raylu> Tyrath: Note
[03:25] <TriBeCa99> there's no raid10 option in the installer
[03:26] <raylu> Note
[03:26] <TriBeCa99> is it worth trying to use the fakeraid 10?
[03:26] <Wyzard> TriBeCa99: Only 0, 1, and 5?
[03:26] <raylu> You will see that this implementation of the Skype plug-in still requires a Skype instance to be running. This is because I'm not motivated to reverse engineer Skype's obfuscation layer. (Not mentioning that you should ask your lawyer about if it is legal or not..)
[03:26] <TriBeCa99> yeah
[03:26] <TriBeCa99> that's all i see
[03:26] <Tyrath> raylu: ah k
[03:26] <Tyrath> raylu: but could a skype instance just not be the skyped daemon?
[03:26] <nikitis> Question, i just did an online update via update manager and i think it upgraded the network manager.  It says in the tray however that there are no active connections, yet i'm speaking to you.  Is this a known bug?
[03:27] <weng`> when i tried to issued the command sudo update-grub i got the error: Your /usr is broken, please fix it before call this wrapper
[03:27] <weng`> any ideas ?
[03:27] <Wyzard> TriBeCa99: I'm surprised...  anyway, what I'd do is create a raid1 with just two of the disks, and then later you can manually create a degraded raid10 on the other two, move the data over, break the raid1 and add the remaining two disks to the 10
[03:27] <raylu> Tyrath: sorry, i don't follow... skyped daemon?
[03:27] <MrWizeGuy1983> raylu, what's the server name to get here?
[03:27] <Wyzard> TriBeCa99: a little tedious, but it's basically the same process I followed to convert my raid5 to raid10
[03:27] <raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: chat.freenode.net
[03:27] <Tyrath> raylu: one of the progs you need to run bitlbee-skype
[03:27] <MrWizeGuy1983> thank you
[03:27] <Khomeini> I'm having an issue installing the wireless drivers on my Acer Aspire 1, is there anyone that can help me?
[03:27] <Tyrath> raylu: actually it is bitlbee-skype
[03:28] <TriBeCa99> Wyzard: got any links? or will you be around for a while? ;p
[03:28] <nikitis> Anyone know what is going on?
[03:28] <raylu> Khomeini: not unless you describe the problem in more detail
[03:28] <Tyrath> raylu: other than that you need skype4py
[03:28] <Wyzard> TriBeCa99: No and no, unfortunately
[03:28] <TriBeCa99> Wyzard: not sure i could tackle that on my own.
[03:28] <Wyzard> TriBeCa99: but others can likely help
[03:28] <raylu> nikitis: you could try "sudo invoke-rc.d NetworkManager"
[03:28] <MrWizeGuy1983> grub says cannot mount selected partition when i follow the instructions on the grub howto manual raylu
[03:28] <Tyrath> raylu: but yeah, you still will need the application on the HD because I think that it interfaces with something backdoor
[03:28] <Khomeini> Raylu: I entered "gksudo ggedit /ect/apt/sources.list" but the menu that comes up is black
[03:28] <TriBeCa99> wyzard: can you outline what it involves?
[03:28] <raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: um...i have no idea what you did
[03:29] <nikitis> raylu says parameter is missing
[03:29] <raylu> Khomeini: menu? i'd suggest opening a terminal and use "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[03:29] <Tyrath> raylu: do you use bitlbee?
[03:29] <MrWizeGuy1983> i tried to follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto to fix an error 18 on grub
[03:29] <MrWizeGuy1983> raylu, ^
[03:29] <raylu> Tyrath: not atm, but normally, yes
[03:29] <Khomeini> Raylu: I opened the terminal, typed in the command I said and the window that popped up after that was empty. I'll try what you said though
[03:29] <raylu> nikitis: oh, sorry
[03:30] <raylu> nikitis: tack "restart" onto the end of that"
[03:30] <Tyrath> raylu: ah k. so you deleted pidgin? and do you find you can do everything with bitlbee you can do with pidgin?
[03:30] <TriBeCa99> the other problem with my install is the installer doesn't seem to find my LAN port
[03:30] <raylu> Khomeini: you did mean "gedit", not "gedit, right?
[03:30] <raylu> Khomeini: *ggedit
[03:30] <mxweas> Where are login themes stored for gdm?
[03:30] <raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: when'd you get that error message?
[03:30] <Wyzard> TriBeCa99: make a raid1 with two of the disks, and leave the other two untouched (partition them as "physical volume for RAID" but don't add them to an array)
[03:30] <nikitis> raylu, it restarted, but same thing.  When I go to edit connections, there are none listed!
[03:30] <Khomeini> raylu: On the guide I have it just says gedit
[03:30] <raylu> nikitis: no idea then. networkmanager confuses me
[03:30] <alexserver> hi there, I need to replace a module with kernel with another one can someone help me
[03:31] <fwaokda> how do i find my ip address in terminal in ubuntu intrepid?
[03:31] <raylu> Khomeini: right. 10:28:39    Khomeini> Raylu: I entered "gksudo ggedit /ect/apt/sources.list" but the menu that comes up is black
[03:31] <Khomeini> I'm just supposed to be removing the initial comment mark # from all lines that contain software repository URLS
[03:31] <alexserver> I meant, I need to replace a module with kernel within another one can someone help me
[03:31] <Khomeini> Raylu: Sorry, misstyped
[03:31] <Wyzard> TriBeCa99: Once you're done installing, use mdadm to create a new raid10 array of four disks, but use "missing" in place of the two disks that are part of the raid1, to create a degraded array
[03:31] <raylu> Khomeini: um...you don't need to edit the file to do that
[03:31] <oinker> hi. my screen shuts down when intrepid loads, even after a fesh install.  any clues?
[03:31] <raylu> Khomeini: and you also _don't_ want to do that
[03:31] <raylu> Khomeini: you can do it from within synaptic. also, there's some gui tool in system > admin > software sources, i believe
[03:31] <Wyzard> TriBeCa99: e.g. "missing /dev/sdc1 missing /dev/sdd1"
[03:31] <phpmonk> anyone please help how to install apache libs?
[03:31] <lucent> fwaokda: which IP do you want, your NIC or your ext ip?
[03:31] <alexserver> damn, i need to replace pata_module with amd74xxx within kernel
[03:32] <vermont> last question: song bird or amarok?
[03:32] <Khomeini> Raylu: Well, I'm really just attempting to install Atheros 5xxx drivers for my Acer Aspire 1 Wireless card
[03:32] <raylu> Khomeini: but enabling all of them is usually not a good idea unless you're prepared to deal with unstable software/breakage
[03:32] <raylu> Khomeini: i suppose you've tried iwconfig?
[03:32] <nikitis> raylu, is network manager no longer grabbing information from /etc/network/interfaces?
[03:32] <raylu> nikitis: it never did, i believe
[03:32] <Khomeini> Raylu: No, I'm fairly new to this whole Ubuntu thing, I've just been following an online guide that doesn't help much
[03:32] <raylu> nikitis: someone in here mentioned earlier that configuring an interface in that file will cause nm to ignore it
[03:33] <Wyzard> TriBeCa99: Once you have your new array, create a filesystem in it (or LVM or whatever you like to use inside your arrays), and boot a liveCD or something, mount both arrays (the raid1 and the raid10), and copy all the files over
[03:33] <raylu> Khomeini: ok, does iwconfig give you any configuration information? or just that there are no wireless extensions?
[03:33] <oakmac> I have dual monitors.  How can I set a keyboard command to move a maximized window from monitor 1 to monitor 2 and vice versa?
[03:33] <Khomeini> Raylu: no wireless extensions
[03:33] <raylu> Khomeini: can you show me the guide you're following?
[03:33] <Wyzard> TriBeCa99: Once you have your system up and running from the degraded raid10, you can get rid of the temporary raid1 you created, and "mdadm --add" those two disks to the raid10
[03:34] <TriBeCa99> ok
[03:34] <cvtnix> how do i make playback of youtube videos smooth and not choppy?
[03:34] <kindofabuzz> anyone use glipper? is it possible to set it to use pastebin instead of it's default?
[03:34] <TriBeCa99> Wyzard: thanks much, i think i can manage that
[03:34] <TriBeCa99> i've got the raid1 setting up now
[03:34] <fwaokda> lucent, nvmind i got it thanks
[03:34] <Khomeini> raylu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne <- Down in the Wifi section
[03:35] <\Kira> Im trying to install xchat from source, and I get this error: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables". The slackware solution is to install glibc, but this isnt slackware. I also found that using sudo apt-get build-essential, but it reports build-essential is a invalid arguement. Any help?
[03:35] <Khomeini> Raylu: From what I gather the stock drivers are not compatible with the Acer Aspire 1, and I'm attempting to replace them
[03:35] <raylu> Khomeini: are we in the 8.10 section?
[03:35] <jrib> \Kira: xchat is in the repositories
[03:35] <Khomeini> Raylu: Yes
[03:35] <lwizardl> hi
[03:36] <raylu> Khomeini: system > admin > software sources. enable only the backports
[03:36] <lwizardl> anyone here own an "acer aspire one a150" notebook ?
[03:36] <Khomeini> Wizard: I do, whats up?
[03:36] <\Kira> jrib: is it? opps..... I assumed since the website didnt have a ubuntu option it wouldnt be in the respritories. Thanks
[03:36] <alexserver> can anyone help me to solve this issue ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/307829
[03:36] <mxweas> How can I change the resolution of the gdm login window?
[03:36] <lwizardl> Khomeini: how does it handle 8.10 ?
[03:37] <th3r0n> raylu
[03:37] <raylu> lwizardl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne
[03:37] <oinker> I'd like to know which chat can help with a serious install issue?
[03:37] <Khomeini> Wizard: Other than the wifi problem, its pretty good for right now
[03:37] <raylu> th3r0n: ...?
[03:37] <th3r0n> this is the one i need help on raylu
[03:37] <jrib> \Kira: yep.  By the way, you wanted 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[03:37] <Khomeini> Raylu: Where is that option, sorry
[03:37] <raylu> Khomeini: i'd tell you, but i'm not on ubuntu right now :P. it's on the second or third tab, iirc
[03:37] <lwizardl> Khomeini: ok because I'm in the market for a new notebook since my sony viao died
[03:38] <Khomeini> Raylu: All right, still looking
[03:38] <\Kira> jrib: okay, thanks :) It wasnt my fault, I blame the dude on the forums :D. Im guessing using build essential wouldnt work for a source download, though. Right?
[03:38] <alexserver> can anyone help me to solve this issue ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/307829
[03:38] <raylu> \Kira: usually...
[03:38] <defn> How do I change the resolution of my console?
[03:38] <\Kira> raylu: okay, just checking. Thanks
[03:38] <Khomeini> Raylu: Honestly, I don't see it. How might the option be worded?
[03:39] <alexserver> how to compile a module within kernel instead of another one ?
[03:39] <raylu> Khomeini: it should contain the word "backports" if you can't find it, i suppose we'll edit sources.list manually
[03:39] <alexserver> defn: Menu System/Preferences/Screen Resolution
[03:39] <th3r0n1> raylu: i'm on irssi now and need help figuring out the error 18, think you're up for it man?
[03:40] <Khomeini> Raylu: No dice, can't find it
[03:40] <raylu> Khomeini: ok. open up a terminal; sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:40] <zombie_> hi peeps
[03:40] <zombie_> looking for help here
[03:40] <raylu> th3r0n1: ask the channel
[03:40] <Khomeini> Ralyu: Now what?
[03:41] <raylu> Khomeini: now, you should see lines with backports
[03:41] <th3r0n1> ubuntu people, how can i fix an error 18 on grub?
[03:41] <th3r0n1> it doesn't want to work
[03:41] <zombie_> I did a fresh install and my grub is on the wrong disk
[03:41] <zombie_> I want it on the disk I installed hardy on
[03:41] <Acedip> hey guys, i have just run a disk check, and what does this output mean, are my partitions fine or bad http://pastebin.com/m71ff0dc1
[03:42] <\Kira> In the online ubuntu documents there is a article about using ssh "keys" (or something like that) to allow only certain computers to be able to connect and it disables the password feature (I think). He said he did this because he was getting about 4000 password attempts a week. Im not sure if mine has this many, but wouldnt it just okay to disable the root account? Then they would have to guess the account username and password. Or is it not enough? This
[03:42] <\Kira> server runs all the time, so what would you recommend?
[03:42] <moebius> what's with the massive package upgrade on intrepid today
[03:42] <magikid> \What is a good process limit for /etc/security/limits.conf?
[03:42] <raylu> Acedip: they were bad, now they're good
[03:42] <jbmigel> zombie: man grub-install
[03:43] <raylu> \Kira: there's an option to prevent password authentication
[03:43] <zombie_> how can i install grub on my fresh install disk?
[03:43] <giacomo> hello!
[03:43] <zombie_> without reinstalling
[03:43] <onetinsoldier> zombie_: apt-get install grub
[03:43] <mxweas> How can I change my ubuntu login screen resolution so it is larger than 800x600?
[03:43] <jbmigel> zombie_: man grub-install
[03:43] <raylu> alexserver: which kernel are you on now?
[03:43] <Khomeini> Raylu: Okay, removed the comment. Now what?
[03:43] <\Kira> raylu: prevent password authentication? For the root account you mean?
[03:43] <oinker> my fresh install is buggered, what is a stable version of ubuntu?
[03:43] <raylu> Khomeini: ctrl+o, ctrl+x
[03:43] <\Kira> oinker: ubuntu 8.10 is the latest stable version
[03:44] <raylu> \Kira: you can disable root logins (on be default, i believe) or prevent password authentication for everyone
[03:44] <giacomo> Finally I've booted into my ubuntu with my self compiled vanilla kernel with all my needed modules built-inside the kernel. So, now, I want to disable udev and modprobe at boot time. Do you know how can I archive this?
[03:44] <oinker> kira: thanks, but it wont boot up - what about b4 8.10?
[03:44] <Acedip> raylu: what does this line mean /dev/sdb5: 6050/9641984 files (4.7% non-contiguous), 22277446/38543943 blocks and this one too /dev/sdb1: 11/132192 files (0.0% non-contiguous), 25483/528129 blocks
[03:44] <raylu> oinker: this question can be easily answered by visiting the website...
[03:44] <\Kira> raylu: what does preventing password authentication for everyone do? If it stops them from logging in, doesnt that remove the whole point of ssh?
[03:44] <alexserver> raylu: 2.6.27.9 generic ubuntu distro
[03:45] <Khomeini> Raylu: Okay, now what?
[03:45] <Wyzard> Acedip: That's some basic statistics about your filesystem, printed by fsck after scanning it
[03:45] <raylu> Acedip: files present/files allowed by the filesystem (% of files split across blocks), blocks used/blocks available, limited by size of partition
[03:45] <oinker> raylu: thanks.  but I've cheched websittes, forums, and here, and i cant seem to get an answer...
[03:45] <raylu> Khomeini: sudo aptitude update
[03:45] <aiuw> What size do I set an image if I want it to the be terminal background
[03:45] <alexserver> raylu: the fact is, I need to disable pata-amd and enable amd74xxx so i can read dvd's as normal people should do
[03:46] <raylu> \Kira: there are other methods (key) of authentication
[03:46] <unop> aiuw, the maximum size of the terminal i.e. when maximised?
[03:46] <raylu> oinker: how about the get ubuntu page?
[03:46] <Khomeini> Raylu: Lots of stuff happened, now what? Thanks for all the help, by the way
[03:46] <raylu> Khomeini: now you should be able to run that command
[03:46] <Tyrath> anyhow thanks for the help people
[03:46] <Acedip> raylu: so u are sure the disks are fine ?
[03:46] <Tyrath> ciao
[03:46] <aiuw> unop, sure? I just want it to fix the terminal screen w/o having to resize the terminal window
[03:46] <\Kira> raylu: I see, would you reccommend the key method, or is the password method okay? btw, root account login is enables by default, I just checked.
[03:46] <raylu> Acedip: fsck thinks they are
[03:46] <Khomeini> Raylo: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-intrepid-generic?
[03:46] <oinker> I've got a good copy of 8.10 on one computer, but on the newer one, afetr it installs, it starts to load, then a black screen
[03:47] <vermont> I just installed cairo dock, but now I can't find it.
[03:47] <oinker> then nothing for hours
[03:47] <raylu> \Kira: the password method is annoying, imo. but the key method relies on the key... if that gets compromised, you're scrood.
[03:47] <\Kira> oinker: try booting into safe mode?
[03:47] <raylu> Khomeini: yes
[03:47] <oinker> is that recovery mode?
[03:47] <\Kira> raylu: I see, I think ill stay with the password method, then. Thanks
[03:47] <\Kira> oinker: yes, sorry. I meant recovery mode
[03:48] <Acedip> raylu: any other tool for an extensive disk check ??
[03:48] <unop> aiuw, well, if you set a background image and it is less than the dimensions of the terminal window - it will appear skewed when maximised - i also believe the gnome-terminal makes smart adjustments when it is not maximised
[03:48] <unop> aiuw, try it and see - is what i'd say
[03:48] <oinker> yes, been there, done the x server check, disk check, memeory test
[03:48] <raylu> alexserver: i have no idea if this will work, but you can download the source from http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/linux-image-2.6.27-9-server
[03:48] <raylu> alexserver: and reconfigure, rebuild yourself
[03:48] <raylu> Acedip: not that i know of. why?
[03:48] <Khomeini> Raylu: "couldn' find package linux-backports-intrepid-generic"
[03:48] <oinker> kira: yes, been there, done the x server check, disk check, memeory test
[03:49] <\Kira> oinker: I see, well. I guess you could try checking the log files. Im not very familiar with that, though. Mabye somebody else would know? Sorry I cant help you further...
[03:49] <raylu> Khomeini: you forgot a bit. "sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic"
[03:49] <Khomeini> Raylu: Thanks
[03:49] <\Kira> oinker: it might also be a good idea to see if the live cd works.
[03:49] <oinker> kira: live cd works
[03:49] <Acedip> raylu: because i really feel that my disk has some problems..
[03:50] <raylu> oinker: remove quiet from the grub boot options
[03:50] <mxweas> anyone?>
[03:50] <\Kira> oinker: hmm.... The installation might have goofed up at some point. Mabye try it again? I dont know what im doing very well. Someone may have a better answer
[03:50] <DiiPhantom> any idea why would a xfer of 3gigs from usb NTFS harddisk to sata hardist with ubuntu slow down?
[03:50] <oinker> raylu: isnt that for PC's w/low RAM?
[03:50] <Khomeini> Raylu: So this is just downloading old, unsupported modules in hopes of getting me the right drivers? I'm new to the whole Ubuntu thing, trying to learn as I go along
[03:50] <alexserver> raylu: so, i need to recompile the whole kernel ? that is a task i dont know how to do
[03:50] <DiiPhantom> started with 2.2mbs now its at 1.2mbs
[03:50] <raylu> oinker: and debugging
[03:51] <\Kira> oinker: raylu has a good idea, id go with that
[03:51] <raylu> Khomeini: backports are new and possibly not entirely stable
[03:51] <Khomeini> Raylu: Ooh, fun
[03:51] <vermont> I just installed cairo dock. on 8.04 it went straight to "system tools" but I changed to 8.10 and I can't find it
[03:51] <raylu> alexserver: it's not difficult
[03:52] <alexserver> raylu: is there a how to in ubuntu site or something i could read to learn ?
[03:53] <nikitis> DiiPhantom, go into your bios and enable hispeed usb
[03:53] <raylu> alexserver: i'm not sure if the source package on that page is sufficient. hopefully, it's got their configuration in it
[03:53] <nikitis> DiiPhantom, your bios setting somehow got reset
[03:53] <DiiPhantom> motherboard bios?
[03:53] <raylu> alexserver: if it is, you can just go to /usr/src/whatever and use "make makeconfig" to configure it (it's graphical..ish") and then "make"
[03:53] <nikitis> yes
[03:53] <DiiPhantom> ok ill do that
[03:53] <DiiPhantom> ty
[03:54] <nikitis> i had the same problem
[03:54] <nikitis> i knew i had usb 2.0, but it was going fast at start then stop to crawling speeds
[03:54] <raylu> DiiPhantom: ...is the transfer over a usb connection?
[03:54] <nikitis> once i enabled, it went great
[03:54] <vermont> anybody? anybody...Bueler.
[03:54] <DiiPhantom> from usb hd to sata hd
[03:54] <raylu> DiiPhantom: oh, proceed
[03:54] <xovan> all of my opengl applications keep crashing to windows  from fullscreen
[03:55] <xovan> how do I fix this?
[03:55] <alexserver> raylu: i have ubuntu desktop, that image do i need ? generic, server or vittual ?
[03:55] <CntrySheepFahker> Does anyone care to help me for a second?
[03:55] <ie1982> ciao
[03:56] <ie1982> !list
[03:56] <CntrySheepFahker> I'm new to ubuntu, and I'm trying to figure out how to fix this damn mouse scroll. It scrolls annoyingly at 1/4 a page.
[03:56] <alexserver> raylu: excuse my bad writing, i'm not used to my lap keyboard
[03:56] <CntrySheepFahker> anyone?
[03:56] <oinker> raylu: thankyou.  i'v now got the main screen u get when one logs in, but now i have a "failed to initialze HAL" error
[03:56] <raylu> alexserver: whichever one you have installed
[03:56] <kamelot> Can somebody tell me why when i download a torrent via Transmission the maximum speed got en average of 2.0k\sec?
[03:57] <kattollikisd> I would like to put a link icon of the file system on the desktop, can someone tell me how to do that?
[03:57] <jrib> !icons | kattollikisd
[03:57] <raylu> oinker: anything more specific than that?
[03:57] <CntrySheepFahker> Hrmm
[03:57] <raylu> kamelot: not enoug peers
[03:58] <raylu> *enough
[03:58] <CntrySheepFahker> raylu, you good at ubuntu?
[03:58] <vermont> can anyone at least tell me how to locate "cairo dock"
[03:58] <kamelot> raylu: That make that to every torrent.. something i got 100 peers and he do that
[03:58] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: if you have a question, ask the channel
[03:58] <oinker> raylu: nope, just the home screen with a box with that error, and a frozen mouse. aly-f2 takes me to a terminal looking page asking for login details
[03:58] <CntrySheepFahker> raylu, I've tried :(
[03:58] <raylu> kamelot: set up port forwarding on your router
[03:59] <kamelot> raylu: Don't have a router
[03:59] <mib_k4nuxf> what's the name of a popular Linux VPS host that lets you chose your distro?
[03:59] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: what app scrolls at 1/4 a page?
[03:59] <raylu> kamelot: no idea, then
[03:59] <kamelot> Tanks anyway
[03:59] <kamelot> ;)
[03:59] <CntrySheepFahker> raylu: everything. my mouse scroll is supper sensitive
[03:59] <Khomeini1> Raylu: Restarted and still no wireless driver. The command sudo modprobe ath5k does nothing
[03:59] <raylu> Khomeini1: lsmod | grep ath5k
[03:59] <Khomeini1> Raylu: Well, wireless driver is different it is the 5xxx series, but still no connection
[04:00] <oinker> raylu: i can log in. is there a cmd i can run to diagnose/fix
[04:00] <alexserver> raylu: thanks
[04:00] <Khomeini1> Raylu: Stuff came up, have no idea what it means
[04:00] <raylu> oinker: are you looking at a tty or gnome?
[04:00] <oinker> tty2
[04:00] <onetinsoldier> CntrySheepFahker: have you tried System --> Preferences --> Mouse ?
[04:01] <raylu> Khomeini1: it means that ath5k is installed and loaded
[04:01] <raylu> Khomeini1: iwconfig
[04:01] <CntrySheepFahker> onetinsoldier: it doesn't have a option for scroll and yes I have.
[04:01] <raylu> Khomeini1: (modprobe usually produces annoyingly little output)
[04:01] <onetinsoldier> CntrySheepFahker: oh..  roger
[04:01] <Khomeini1> Raylu: Stuff is coming up under wlan0, I guess it just doesn't auto connect?
[04:01] <raylu> Khomeini1: yep. do you have network manager running (top-right, by default)
[04:02] <vermont> One more try: I downloaded Cairo Dock using the package manager...now I can't find it.
[04:02] <lucent> raylu: you could suggest modinfo to verify if a module exists
[04:02] <CntrySheepFahker> I thought it would be fun trying a new OS, but linux man is a pain. Nothing works right.
[04:02] <raylu> vermont: name of the package?
[04:02] <mrwes> re
[04:02] <lucent> CntrySheepFahker: dell.com buy a 1420n laptop, preloaded with Ubuntu, everything works
[04:02] <Izinucs> CntrySheepFahker: it works but you're just not use to it.. probably still thinking in the "windows" way.
[04:02] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: better than being at the mercy of the people who coded your system
[04:02] <eseven73> vermont: sometimes you have to log out/log in to see menu/icon stuff
[04:02] <oinker> raylu: tty2
[04:03] <Ward1983> does anyone use vnuml? i'm trying to set it up but there is no 64bit deb for ediv
[04:03] <lucent> CntrySheepFahker: I own a 1420n, it just bloody works.
[04:03] <raylu> oinker: did you boot as rescue mode?
[04:03] <vermont> eseven73, oh alright. thanks for that. I'll try it now. raylu, if that doesn't work I'll come back and find out the exact package name.
[04:03] <raylu> oinker: if not, "sudo dmesg | tail" may help
[04:03] <oinker> raylu: no, & ok
[04:03] <CntrySheepFahker> Guys ya'll dont have to flame me lol. I know it has potential. But you have to configure everything or know 100 commands to get stuff working.
[04:03] <coppro> does anyone have experience with Compiz?
[04:04] <Izinucs> That's all part of the adventure
[04:04] <kaje_> I just added two drives to my system that I'd like to setup with software raid... is the partitioning tool that was available during installation available after I have my system installed?
[04:04] <raylu> kaje_: gparted
[04:04] <CntrySheepFahker> I finally got hdmi to tv sound working and then i updated all updates and it deleted my nvidia I installed my new alsa drivers Im like oh wow
[04:04] <onetinsoldier> coppro: a little... we all need to know your real question though
[04:04] <coppro> It is making my windows semitransparent when not focused
[04:04] <coppro> and it irritates me
[04:04] <jbmigel> CntrySheepFahker: you might want to look at the mouse settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf... maybe something weird got in there about scroll
[04:04] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: i'd google harder for your problem :P
[04:04] <coppro> and I can't find the way to turn it off
[04:04] <keres> how do you change the amount of RAM a program can use?
[04:04] <CntrySheepFahker> coppro: My compiz was buggy when I used firefox it scrambled txt.
[04:04] <oinker> raylu: what in the output is of help, the only stand out seems to be "No VRS found"
[04:05] <raylu> keres: ...you kill it?
[04:05] <shavin> I am trying to install YourTubeDownloader GUI script but it says ffmpeg is not installed. How do i install this?
[04:05] <evilGUI> keres:ram? you mean swapfile or real ram?
[04:05] <CntrySheepFahker> raylu: I've tried all I find is other users same problem and bug reports
[04:05] <raylu> oinker: might want to look back more than 10 lines, then
[04:05]  * chalcedony smiles
[04:05] <russ5811> how can i find out what graphics card I have installed? I put ubuntu on an old pc i found in my closet...don't remember what it had.
[04:05] <keres> evilGUI: my prog keeps crashing when i face the majority of my map
[04:05] <lucent> shavin: I suggest DownloadHelper firefox extension instead
[04:05] <keres> raylu:
[04:05] <oinker> raylu: it actually only gives me exactly 10 lines
[04:05] <keres> evilGUI: i guess swapfile
[04:06] <raylu> oinker: right. there's a tail option to get more
[04:06] <raylu> oinker: i think it's -n, though i'm not sure
[04:06] <jbmigel> russ5811 take a look at the output of: lspci
[04:06] <kaje_> raylu: I don't think you can setup raid with GParted
[04:06] <CntrySheepFahker> jbmigel: Im in looking at the xorg.conf now it shows mouse, but nothing about scroll..
[04:06] <russ5811> thanks jbmigel
[04:06] <raylu> kaje_: neither did i, but you asked, so i answered
[04:06] <keres> raylu: do you know how to increase swap file?
[04:07] <raylu> keres: extend the swap partition
[04:07] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: paste it please
[04:07] <keres> raylu: how?
[04:07] <raylu> keres: gparted :D
[04:07] <keres> raylu: what is the syntax??
[04:07] <CntrySheepFahker> Section "InputDevice"
[04:07] <CntrySheepFahker>     # generated from default
[04:07] <CntrySheepFahker>     Identifier     "Mouse0"
[04:07] <CntrySheepFahker>     Driver         "mouse"
[04:07] <CntrySheepFahker>     Option         "Protocol" "auto"
[04:07] <CntrySheepFahker>     Option         "Device" "/dev/psaux"
[04:07] <raylu> keres: *g* parted
[04:07] <CntrySheepFahker>     Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
[04:07] <onetinsoldier> no!
[04:07] <CntrySheepFahker>     Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
[04:07] <onetinsoldier> not like that!
[04:07] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: um...
[04:07] <evilGUI> keres:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89782
[04:07] <onetinsoldier> in a pastebin
[04:08] <eseven73> FloodBot1: was sleeping that time
[04:08] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: i probably should have said pastebin instead of paste :( sorry
[04:08] <onetinsoldier> you did ask him to paste it raylu, and you knew he was a newb to this stuff.. lol
[04:08] <CntrySheepFahker> sorry
[04:08] <keres> evilGUI: do you think it is a problem with my swap file this app keeps crashing when i face the majority of my level?
[04:08] <shavin> lucent: but that extension is not compatible with firefox3 :-(
[04:09] <kblev2> anyone help with connecting a Samsung LCD to HP laptop running the latest version of Ubuntu?  I need help.... thanks.
[04:09] <lucent> shavin: bah?  it's working here
[04:09] <CntrySheepFahker> raylu: so did you see it or do I need to redo it in paste bin
[04:09] <lucent> shavin: firefox 3.0.5 here and DownloadHelper
[04:09] <CntrySheepFahker> or what ever u called it
[04:09] <nintendork32> is there a md5 checker on the repositories?
[04:09] <ashiswin> hello
[04:10] <nintendork32> !md5
[04:10] <nintendork32> nvm
[04:10] <ashiswin> hello
[04:10] <ashiswin> ?
[04:10] <onetinsoldier> !pastebin > CntrySheepFahker
[04:10] <ashiswin> hello
[04:10] <deagle> hello :D
[04:10] <ashiswin> hello
[04:10] <evilGUI> keres: no I don't it could be many things
[04:10] <ashiswin> hello
[04:10] <ashiswin> hello
[04:10] <ashiswin> hello
[04:10] <ashiswin> hello
[04:10] <ashiswin> please
[04:10] <ashiswin> can someone listen
[04:10] <kristian1> no
[04:10] <jbmigel> ashiswin shut up
[04:10] <onetinsoldier> to +b ot not to +b, that is the +q
[04:10] <deagle> kick?
[04:10] <raylu> lol
[04:10] <ashiswin> *sniff*
[04:10] <keres> evilGUI: are you familiar with quake games or radiant?
[04:11] <jbmigel> ashiswin if you have a question just ask it
[04:11] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5632248&postcount=5
[04:11] <ashiswin> is there anyone here who is part of the documentation team?
[04:11] <CntrySheepFahker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88265/
[04:11] <shavin> lucent: then let me recheck my side. thanks
[04:11] <Ward1983> does anyone use vnuml? im trying to set it up on my 64bit system but there is no 64bit ediv deb
[04:12] <ashiswin> is there anyone here who is part of the documentation team?
[04:12] <ashiswin> is there anyone here who is part of the documentation team?
[04:12] <ashiswin> is there anyone here who is part of the documentation team?
[04:12] <ashiswin> is there anyone here who is part of the documentation team?
[04:12] <deagle> ....
[04:12] <raylu> ashiswin: #ubuntu-doc
[04:12] <onetinsoldier> to +b or not to +b, that is the +q
[04:12] <kristian1> no
[04:12] <raylu> and shut up =\
[04:12] <ashiswin> i no
[04:12] <ashiswin> noe
[04:12] <ashiswin> but
[04:12] <deagle> can someone kick this guy please?
[04:12] <ashiswin> everyone is silent there
[04:12] <keres> !repeat | ashiswin
[04:12] <MrWizeGuy1983> raylu, i'm about to break this computer, i did the grub setup, root (hd0,0) and setup (hd0,0) and still have error 18
[04:12] <raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: what is error 18?
[04:12] <shavin> lucent: it is installing, the one i tried earlier must be something different. thank you.
[04:12] <MrWizeGuy1983> raylu, it's can't find /boot i think
[04:13] <kristian1> ashiswin : ask your question *once*!
[04:13] <raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: have you considered putting /boot in the first partition?
[04:13] <jbmigel> he already left... probably to go buy more ritalin
[04:13] <MrWizeGuy1983> raylu, i  made a partition called /boot
[04:13] <MrWizeGuy1983> mounted as anyway
[04:13] <raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: um, what?
[04:13] <zombie_> my grub is on SATA3 and my Hardy OS is on SATA1. How do I get the grub on SATA1?
[04:14] <MrWizeGuy1983> and it didn't fix it....i'm.....very frustrated
[04:14] <MrWizeGuy1983> i specifically made a /boot
[04:14] <lucent> zombie_: good luck!  :P
[04:14] <raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: by a /boot, you mean a parition?
[04:14] <kristian1> jbmigel : oh! i have /ignore #ubuntu +joins +parts +quits on. ;-)
[04:14] <deagle> could someone help me understand why the heck i have to keep re-running gtk-chtheme if gnome-settings-daemon is running? all gtk apps keep forgetting the theme engine i pick
[04:14] <MrWizeGuy1983> yes, these are my partitions:   /        /home      /boot
[04:14] <CntrySheepFahker> raylu: that didn't work :(
[04:14] <onetinsoldier> zombie_: you didn't try  apt-get install grub ?
[04:14] <zombie_> yes tried it
[04:14] <CntrySheepFahker> raylu: I even tried a 1 instead of a 3 nothing changed
[04:15] <raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: but the /boot partition isn't the first one
[04:15] <zombie_> it said grub is up to date
[04:15] <jbmigel> zombie_ did you read grub-install it lets you install grub wherever you like
[04:15] <gizmo> hello
[04:15] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: this is a long shot, but your mouse wheel clicks, right? run "xev" and try scrolling one click
[04:16] <DiiPhantom> virtualbox not reading my .iso image anyideas?
[04:16] <corollax> When I type "sudo update-grub", it says my /usr is broken. Help?
[04:16] <MrWizeGuy1983> raylu, should i use gparted to make it the first one?
[04:16] <gizmo> what c grup for?
[04:16] <raylu> corollax: "sudo aptitude install"
[04:16] <MrWizeGuy1983> it's sda7 if that means anything.... any ideas raylu ?
[04:16] <raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: your first one is /, right? can't you just move it there?
[04:16] <raylu> MrWizeGuy1983: error 18 means that it's too far...sda7 is no surprise
[04:16] <corollax> raylu: Didn't help, unfortunately
[04:17] <raylu> corollax: nothing happened?
[04:17] <CntrySheepFahker> raylu: lol its going through so much txt its not even funny, yes it clicks but I dont have to click it to scroll it
[04:17] <MrWizeGuy1983> so how do i move /boot to / ??
[04:17] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: huh?
[04:17] <matthias> hi how can i change tv screen resolution if i messed it out one time and not i can not get it back to default ???
[04:17] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: i'm just wondering how many events happen when you scroll
[04:17] <corollax> raylu: aptitude went through the motions of checking package installs, but I got the same output
[04:17] <giacomo> any ubuntu boot process guru here?
[04:17] <corollax> raylu: "Your /usr is broken, please fix it before call this wrapper!"
[04:17] <raylu> corollax: is anything else brokeN?
[04:18] <corollax> raylu: Doesn't seem to be, though I"d like to be able to customize my boot configuration, so that's a bit of a problem.
[04:19] <DiiPhantom> how do i update virtualbox?
[04:19] <raylu> corollax: ls /usr/sbin/update-grub*
[04:19] <CntrySheepFahker> raylu: I have no clue how to read it or copy it, but it goes fast
[04:20] <raylu> corollax: and "which update-grub"
[04:20] <Dragon_X> i installed ubuntu 8.1 but i have a usb keyboard so when i reboot and it takes me to the OS selection screen, is there anything i can do
[04:20] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: ok, you notice that when you click, one event is generated, right?
[04:20] <gizmo> is there any anti virsu or firewall for ubutn version 8.10
[04:20] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: how many are generated when you scroll?
[04:20] <Brack10> Dragon_X:  In your bios, you might have "USB Emulation"
[04:20] <zombie_> whats the fdisk command? to show you drives?
[04:20] <Ward1983> can anyone please help me out with installing ediv on my 64bit ubuntu 8.10? there does not seem to be a 64 bit deb
[04:20] <CntrySheepFahker> Raylu: no clue it has about 8 or more at once
[04:20] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: i'm guessing that more than one is generated; X is reading multiple events for each scroll that you actually perform
[04:20] <corollax> raylu: /usr/sbin/update-grub
[04:20] <Ward1983> im trying to avoid compiling
[04:21] <gizmo> is there any anti virus and firewall for ubuntu version 8.10
[04:21] <corollax> raylu: /sbin/update-grub
[04:21] <eseven73> zombie_: fdisk -l
[04:21] <Dragon_X> brack10: thanks ill have to check on that
[04:21] <onetinsoldier> !firewall | gizmo
[04:21] <Brack10> Dragon_X:  Otherwise you'll probly have to get a ps2 keyboard
[04:22] <Dragon_X> i have one somewhere...just cant seem to find it, i think my cats may have eaten it but i will have to confirm
[04:22] <gizmo> how about virus?
[04:22] <gizmo> how about anti virus?
[04:22] <corollax> raylu: Do you have any other ideas?
[04:22] <raylu> corollax: i'm not sure if this will work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=364884
[04:22] <Brack10> !virus | gizmo
[04:22] <Brack10> ?
[04:22] <zombie_> do I install grub to sda1 sda2 or sda5?
[04:23] <dotblank> Ive got a quickie for ya, My Geforce 9650m gt is connected via a vga cable to a Projector that run native at 1280x768. However when connect via vga it only gices my 4:3 ratio resolutions and no wide-screen(this is using nvidia's gui.)
[04:23] <Brack10> neat
[04:23] <raylu> zombie_: sda
[04:23] <dotblank> How do I force a resolution?
[04:23] <onetinsoldier> gizmo: commercial anti-virus is available form Panda i believe. free anti-virus is clamav --> apt-get install clamav
[04:24] <onetinsoldier> from*
[04:24] <giacomo> any ubuntu boot process guru here?
[04:24] <CntrySheepFahker> raylu: I guess this is a total loss :( lol
[04:24] <shavin> lucent: When i am downloading something from youtube using the downloader helper and the video is streaming in on the youtube page as well, am i using double the bandwidth? should i close the youtube page at such times?
[04:24] <raylu> giacomo:  is this about udev and modprobe?
[04:24] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: are you using ati/nvidia drivers?
[04:24] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[04:24] <lucent> shavin: I don't know, but I never see a reason to leave youtube open
[04:24] <CntrySheepFahker> yes nvidia
[04:25] <gizmo> onetinsoldier: can u help me what c apt-get for firewall?
[04:25] <CntrySheepFahker> 177
[04:25] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: if you do that and restart X, you'll lose nvidia drivers but scroll may play nice
[04:25] <giacomo> raylu, exactly , how do you know that?
[04:25] <shavin> lucent: okay thanks
[04:25] <Pici> !firewall | giacomo
[04:25] <raylu> giacomo: update-rc.d may help
[04:25] <Pici> giacomo: sorry.
[04:25] <Pici> gizmo: Please see ubottu's message above about firewalls
[04:25] <evilGUI> dotblank: run gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change it but make sure to sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup first so if somthing go's wrong
[04:25] <CiscoJones> can anyone help with an Amarok issue, #amarok seems to be full of idlers
[04:25] <raylu> Pici: he was already given that; he wants to install one now
[04:25] <gizmo> i dont really understand english pici
[04:25] <onetinsoldier> gizmo: apt-get install firestarter
[04:26] <zombie_> grub-install sda?
[04:26] <raylu> CiscoJones: not until you ask a more specific question
[04:26] <zombie_> what else do I need to put?
[04:26] <giacomo> raylu, what I want to do is exclude udev and modprobe completely, but in a fancy way
[04:26] <jbmigel> zombie_ did you read the man page or are you just faking it?
[04:26] <raylu> giacomo: oh, and i know that because i have /lastlog :D you asked it a while ago
[04:27] <raylu> giacomo: if udev and modprobe are in init.d, you can just exclude them with update-rc.d
[04:27] <zombie_> what
[04:27] <zombie_> what main page
[04:27] <raylu> 10:43:27     jbmigel> zombie_: man grub-install
[04:27] <dotblank> evilGUI: I think I found it on google
[04:27] <giacomo> raylu, yes but, as you know, I have to replace /dev in a static way, that's why I need a boot process guru (or old style)
[04:28] <dotblank> evilGUI: it uses modelines right?
[04:28] <raylu> giacomo: oh. no idea :P
[04:28] <raylu> dotblank: yes, but it usually configures itself
[04:28] <raylu> dotblank: also, modelines are painful.
[04:28] <deagle> so like, anyone know what may cause apps to not grab the correct gtk theme engine?
[04:28] <vermont> alright, I installed cairo dock using synaptic. in 8.04 it went right to "System Tools
[04:28] <vermont> but in 8.1 i can;t find it
[04:28] <dotblank> Yes but the autoconfig is wrong
[04:29] <CiscoJones> I just upgraded to amarok 2.0 when I launch I get an error "The Audio playback device HDA Intel (AD198z Analog) does not work.  Falling back to default.  And then I get no sound from Amarok
[04:29] <rodolfo> guys, when running ubuntu 8.10 from the cd device, an error ocur (( BUFFER I/0 ERROR ON DEVICE SR 0, LOGICAL BLOCK 145705 ))
[04:29] <raylu> dotblank: you can retry generating a config with "X -configure" or get various level of manual configuration with "dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver"
[04:29] <raylu> vermont: still need the package name
[04:29] <rodolfo> is this directed to the cd content or.................?
[04:29] <vermont> raylu: cairo-dock
[04:29] <corollax> raylu: I don't think commenting out the lines in the script worked. >,<
[04:30] <dotblank> I tried, I have done VGA, DVI (gives me widescreen but not the native) and Im about to get a hdmi in the mail
[04:30] <gizmo> how to open the clamav after download done?
[04:30] <dotblank> http://forums.nvidia.com/lofiversion/index.php?t34069.html
[04:30] <mjheagle8> anybody want to help me with a compiling error?
[04:31] <jrib> gizmo: why are you installing clam?
[04:31] <gizmo> for anti virus jrib..
[04:31] <gizmo> why?
[04:31] <gizmo> its not good?
[04:31] <mjheagle8> i'm getting a compiler
[04:31] <kaiser10123> why do i have to do this to get audio for tv turner working is there way to get this to work
[04:31] <onetinsoldier> mjheagle8: if i can. are you going to pastebin it?
[04:31] <lucent> anti-virus?
[04:31] <kaiser10123> http://pastebin.ca/1289077
[04:31] <jrib> gizmo: you don't need anti virus.  Unless you are a mail server for windows users really
[04:31] <Brack10> onetinsoldier:  I got firefox problems  Remember how you had me use dpkg to reinstall gdk?  What's that command again?
[04:31] <mjheagle8> yeah
[04:32] <lucent> gizmo: are you running a mail server? I'm confused
[04:32] <gizmo> i already d/l it..huh..so how to remove it?
[04:32] <gizmo> lucent nope..i dont run mail server..
[04:32] <jrib> gizmo: you used synaptic or?
[04:32] <gizmo> i get it from terminal
[04:32] <gizmo> how to remove it?
[04:32] <jrib> gizmo: what did you run exactly?
[04:32] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: i can't remember already. tell me that the problem is atm? error message?
[04:32] <lucent> gizmo: uh... anti-virus...  why?
[04:32] <gizmo> ubuntu 8.10
[04:33] <jrib> gizmo: I mean, what command did you run in the terminal?
[04:33] <kaiser10123> anyone know about tv turners?
[04:33] <rodolfo> how can I check for the cd content integrity, using md5?
[04:33] <gizmo> apt-get install clamav<_-this one?
[04:33] <mjheagle8> onetinsoldier: can you help me?
[04:33] <robbmunson> !av
[04:33] <jrib> gizmo: yes.  To uninstall: sudo apt-get purge clamav
[04:33] <gizmo> ok...tq jrib
[04:33] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: i do remeber that you had problem after installing google-gadgets tho
[04:33] <jrib> !apt > gizmo
[04:34] <jrib> !virus > gizmo
[04:34] <robbmunson> jrib: i think i already did that one?
[04:34] <robbmunson> jrib: i mean triggered that factoid
[04:34] <onetinsoldier> mjheagle8: one sec
[04:34] <jrib> robbmunson: oh ok
[04:34] <TriBeCa99> hi guys
[04:34] <TriBeCa99> ubuntu isn't recognizing my LAN port
[04:35] <gizmo> jrib: i want to know how to open my firewall...or im not yet install it..
[04:35] <TriBeCa99> can anyone give me a hand with that?
[04:35] <unavailable> hardware? TriBeCa99
[04:35] <Brack10> onetinsoldier:  It shows this: http://i40.tinypic.com/dcwp5z.png |  sudo firefox works fine, I tried deleting ~/user/.mozilla to no avail
[04:35] <TriBeCa99> yeah, on the MB
[04:35] <jrib> gizmo: the firewall has no rules defined by default
[04:35] <TriBeCa99> from the P5N-E SLI
[04:35] <gizmo> jrib:  can i install firewall..or no need?
[04:35] <raylu> CiscoJones: sorry if you said anything; i just had a network failure
[04:35] <jrib> !firewall | gizmo
[04:36] <earthling> rodolfo: do an "$md5sum filenam" it returns a number check that number with the number that came with the file
[04:36] <chalcedony> has anyone set up kprint? it's showing  the Subnet as 127.0.1. * ? shouldn't it be 192.168.1 or so? it isn't showing my printers at all
[04:36] <unavailable> terminal    uname -r
[04:36] <unavailable> TriBeCa99: terminal    uname -r
[04:36] <raylu> vermont: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/i386/cairo-dock/filelist
[04:36] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: i just took a look. i have no idea what's wrong there? blank Firefox with little slit in the middle, right? that's all there is to that pic?
[04:36] <Brack10> onetinsoldier: right
[04:36] <gizmo> how to open the firestarter after finish d/l?
[04:37] <rodolfo> earthling, I need to check the cd content, but I got it using windows xp...
[04:37] <lucent> gizmo: you're doing it wrong
[04:37] <Dolo> I don't get sound when playing mpeg 4 audio book
[04:37] <Brack10> onetinsoldier: and if I click on it, it freezes
[04:37] <jrib> gizmo: look in your menus or run 'firestarter' I guess
[04:37] <TriBeCa99> unavailable: 2.6.27-7-generic
[04:37] <gizmo> what u mean im doin wrong?
[04:37] <raylu> Brack10: you could copy root's .mozilla... though that doesn't make much sense
[04:37] <unavailable> TriBeCa99: have you enabled the restricted repos?
[04:37] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: hmmm, no idea what the problem is there... you might try purging Firefox and then reinstalling. but i donot know if it would fix the or not
[04:38] <Dolo> <--- Can't hear audio books like Mpeg 4 M4a etc..
[04:38] <earthling> rodolfo: go to linux prompt and type that command witht the filename being the flie or image that you want to do an md5sum for.
[04:38] <lucent> gizmo: install via System | Administration | Synaptic Package Manager,   then open from your menus
[04:38] <raylu> !m4a
[04:38] <TriBeCa99> unavailable: don't think so
[04:38] <gizmo> lucent i dont know how to do that
[04:38] <Brack10> raylu: roger that
[04:38] <vermont> raylu: wonderful, thanks so much!
[04:38] <jrib> lucent: he's using apt-get, he just calls it "download"
[04:38] <Brack10> raylu: I'm starting to miss my bookmarks ;)
[04:38] <paradox34690> Is there a really easy FTP server available for debian/ubuntu that is similar to Filezilla Server for Windows?
[04:38] <earthling> rodolfo:you must have received the file with a md5 checksum value.. where did u ge the file from?
[04:38] <lucent> jrib: oh my mistake then :P
[04:38] <jrib> !ftpd | paradox34690
[04:38] <raylu> Brack10: but it works?
[04:39] <Brack10> raylu: sec
[04:39] <rodolfo> earthling, from a torrent file (p2p network)
[04:39] <unavailable> TriBeCa99: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide#Restricted_Drivers_Manager
[04:39] <raylu> Brack10: also, are you on a backported firefox?
[04:39] <unavailable> TriBeCa99: see if the nvidia show up
[04:39] <earthling> rodolfo: ok , then u must have also downloaded a text file with the image.. had you?
[04:40] <Ashex> anyone by chance have the last.fm fingerprinter?
[04:40] <rodolfo> earthling, yes but let me give you the hole picture
[04:40] <Brack10> raylu:  what do you mean by that? backported?
[04:40] <earthling> rodolfo: ok
[04:40] <paradox34690> jrib: yes, yes, I understand that there are bunches available. and quite honestly I've tried a few of them. Some of them are flat out intimidating. Was just wondering if anyone could actually recommend something simple. Thanks tho' for trying! :D
[04:40] <Khomeini> Hey guys. I've been trying to install the Netbook Remix but I'm having a problem. When it tries to download the updates it says the file Source.gz couldn't be located. Any ideas?
[04:40] <raylu> Brack10: do you have the backports repository enabled? i guess, what version of firefox?
[04:40] <raylu> earthling: torrent clients usually do their own hash checking
[04:40] <Khomeini> Or could someone tell me how to manually install the modules?
[04:40] <raylu> rodolfo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=417896
[04:40] <rodolfo> earthling, after I have burned the image successfully, I restart my pc and my bios is set to start up from the CD Driver.
[04:41] <unavailable> you may wish to check http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.0-0261.html out
[04:41] <unavailable> if you know how to compile
[04:41] <avatar67> MMH
[04:41] <jrib> paradox34690: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[04:41] <avatar67> NECESITO CAPITOLS DE EL AVATAR COMPLETOS
[04:41] <rodolfo> earthling, but when running the system from the cd, I decided to check it before installing it's content...obviously
[04:41] <earthling> raylu: yes but then what if the thing that was uploaded  itself was corrupted?
[04:41] <Khomeini> Raylu: How might I manually install a module?
[04:41] <jrib> !es | avatar67
[04:41] <paradox34690> jrib: thanks for the read. checking it out now.
[04:41] <avatar67> NECESITO CAPITULOS COMPLETOS DEL AVATR
[04:42] <raylu> earthling: on an ubuntu torrent? i'd be very surprised if we didn't find out until now
[04:42] <raylu> earthling: and if that were the case, the md5sum would be corrupt too
[04:42] <avatar67> QUIEN LOS PUEDE PASAR?? PLEASE??
[04:42] <Brack10> raylu: as far as I can tell I don't have the backports repo
[04:42] <raylu> Khomeini: a kernel module? for what?
[04:42] <earthling> rodolfo: yeah.. its  wise to do a checksum before
[04:42] <rodolfo> earthling, and this is what I got: " CHECKING BATTERY STATE  493749465 END-REQUEST:I/0 ERROR, DEV SR 0, SECTOR 582820 BUFFER I/0 ERROR ON DEVICE SR 0, LOGICAL BLOCK 145705 "
[04:42] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: you check by looking at the Repository options in Synaptic Package Manager
[04:42] <earthling> raylu: its not that big  aprocess to do a checksum.. why not be safe first
[04:42] <Khomeini> Raylu: Er, not module. I'm trying to think of the term. Specifically these files: https://launchpad.net/netbook-remix/+download
[04:43] <gizmo> terminal is like shell?
[04:43] <jrib> gizmo: sure
[04:43] <Khomeini> Raylu: Auto-updating from that server is bringing up an error
[04:43] <gizmo> can i download freebsd from terminal?
[04:43] <lucent> rodolfo: "uh oh."
[04:43] <rodolfo> earthling, does this mean that the image is corrupted?
[04:43] <earthling> rodolfo:can you print the exact command you typed?
[04:43] <Brack10> onetinsoldier: right
[04:43] <Brack10> onetinsoldier:  It would be under "3rd party software"?
[04:43] <TriBeCa99> unavailable: i've been reading. so i should compile the nVidia drivers? they seem to have instructions.
[04:43] <jbmigel> gizmo: man get
[04:43] <jrib> gizmo: you can download any url you want using wget
[04:44] <unavailable> TriBeCa99: if you feel confidant
[04:44] <TriBeCa99> unavailable: will i run into trouble on a fresh install that hasn't been online with transfering the files over on a flash drive?
[04:44] <rodolfo> earthling, no command. I've just run the CD check before initializing the system
[04:44] <raylu> Khomeini: right...this isn't a repository
[04:44] <TriBeCa99> unavailable: what other options do i have?
[04:44] <unavailable> hmm
[04:44]  * unavailable thinks for a minute
[04:44] <unavailable> no wifi?
[04:44] <unavailable> no network at all?
[04:44] <rodolfo> earthling, remember, there is no linux OS on my other machine. only windows
[04:45] <Khomeini> Raylu: I have the repository links,, its giving me an error on the file source.gz or something
[04:45] <raylu> Khomeini: if you want these files, you can just donwload them naually
[04:45] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: no... it's on the 'Updates' tab
[04:45] <raylu> Khomeini: where are the repository urls?
[04:45] <Khomeini> Raylu: Where do I extract them to?
[04:45] <Khomeini> Raylu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne
[04:46] <melasquedo> o mn.. i did know aboute  this chat
[04:46] <TriBeCa99> unavailable: nothing
[04:46] <chinku> is it possible to prevent root from writing to /etc/resolv.conf using acl? so far I've chmod 444 /etc/resolv.conf and setfacl -m mask::r-- /etc/resolv.conf yet root can still write to the fil
[04:46] <earthling> rodolfo: what is the file u are dealing with and for what purpose is it intended for and where exactly are u doing the cd check?
[04:46] <unavailable> TriBeCa99: im still thinking
[04:46] <Brack10> raylu, onetinsoldier: no backports enabled
[04:46] <Khomeini> Raylu: Under Netbook Remix
[04:46] <onetinsoldier> chinku: man chattr
[04:46] <Khomeini> Raylu: I added those sources but get a 404 error trying to download one of the files
[04:47] <incadudeF> hello everyone im having problems when trying to play Unreal Tournament GOTY on ubuntu 8.10. I get this error: Signal: SIGIOT [iot trap]       I used a loki installer.
[04:47] <unavailable> !compile > unavailable
[04:47] <gizmo> i dont know how to download freebsd from terminal..
[04:48] <jbmigel> gizmo why dont you go ask on efnet #freebsdhelp im sure they will totally set you straight there
[04:48] <unavailable> !compile > TriBeCa99
[04:48] <\Kira> how can I see the filesystem type via a terminal command?
[04:48] <raylu> Khomeini: can i see your sources.list?
[04:48] <raylu> \Kira: df -hx tmpfs, sudo fdisk -l
[04:48] <rodolfo> earthling, the file is the content of the OS. it's the image itself. once starting the machine from the cd, there is an option to check the cd for errors. I'm running the CD content analysis to make sure the OS installation will succeed
[04:48] <lucent> raylu: your pokemonz! show me to them!
[04:48] <lucent> :P
[04:48] <raylu> \Kira: also, mount
[04:49] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: ok, roger that. i still don't know what to think of the problem. you could  dpkg --purge firefox  ..then apt-get install firefox
[04:49] <TriBeCa99> unavailable: checking that page now
[04:49] <raylu> lucent: gentoo, i choose you!
[04:49] <Brack10> raylu:  Deleting .mozilla doesn't work even as root
[04:49] <raylu> lucent: wait, he's compiling.
[04:49] <\Kira> raylu: thanks :) Your helping me out alot tonight :D
[04:49]  * lucent falls over laughing
[04:49] <earthling> rodolfo: all i want to say about your problem is that, when you download a file sometimes u get a file with the md5 checksum value.. to check the intigrity of the file you do a md5checksum.. the result will be a key value. compare those 2 keyvalues. if they match everthing is ok.. if dont then chances are something a wrong
[04:49] <Brack10> the files just hang around
[04:49] <lucent> raylu: touche, well done.
[04:49] <raylu> :D
[04:49] <Khomeini> Raylu: Figured it out, sorry
[04:49] <onetinsoldier> chinku: you're going to want the  chattr -i  option i believe
[04:49] <raylu> Khomeini: np
[04:50] <raylu> Brack10: er, by deleting, you mean copying, right?
[04:50] <lucent> "Your Gentoo has emerged into an F-unroll-loop-a-saurus!"
[04:50] <raylu> Brack10: i thought root's firefox was working
[04:50] <Khomeini> Raylu: another question though: I'm adding some programs to the startup and the guide is telling me to simply put /usr/bin/netbook-launcher but its also asking for a command
[04:50] <raylu> lucent: lol...this deserves to be on bash
[04:50] <Brack10> raylu:  right so I tried deleting MY .mozilla and then replacing with root's .mozilla
[04:50] <rodolfo> earthling, yes, I know. but how to run the md5checksum on windows platform?
[04:50] <Brack10> deleting didn't work, so I tried merging, which also didn't work
[04:51] <lucent> raylu: it needs to stop before my neighbors complain about the 24-year old man making strange laughing noises
[04:51] <earthling> rodolfo: well on a cd checksum sometimes we do get a checksum aerror.. but most of the time even then the cd installation installs without faill. if you are not making a critical server installation and want a installation for your deskyop then you can start installation most of the time
[04:51] <raylu> Khomeini: um...? you mean in the gnome sessions config?
[04:51] <Flannel> lucent, raylu: Please take this elsewhere.  May I suggest #ubuntu-offtopic?
[04:51] <raylu> Khomeini: because /usr/bin/netbook-launcher is a "command"
[04:51] <lucent> Flannel: I was thinking #ubuntu-flaimbait but if you insist :)
[04:51] <\Kira> rodolfo: you can download a program in windows to check md5sums. Google it
[04:51] <Khomeini> Raylu: I am terrible at this. Got it, onna restart and see if everything works
[04:52] <Khomeini> Raylu: Thanks again
[04:52] <Flannel> !md5 | rodolfo, \Kira
[04:52] <\Kira> Flannel, I didnt need that. Thanks, though :D
[04:52] <lucent> Flannel: btw, how to set Ubuntu 8.10 up to ignore the 2nd wifi interface such that NetworkManager / dbus et. al. do not mess with it?
[04:52] <earthling> raylu : e ooru ra?
[04:52] <Flannel> lucent: No idea
[04:52] <GuitarInc1> hi.  is there a way to keep ubuntu from writing to the MBR?
[04:52] <Terralthra> I've got GNOME running
[04:52] <lucent> Flannel: thanks for trying
[04:53] <Terralthra> and I did the restricted drivers thing for the nvidia module
[04:53] <lucent> Terralthra: impressive
[04:53] <Terralthra> and rebooted
[04:53]  * lucent waits for the part where it went boom
[04:53] <Terralthra> and now when it goes to GNOME in the boot cycle
[04:53] <Terralthra> it goes to a black screen
[04:53] <Terralthra> >.>
[04:53] <raylu> earthling: ............ what?
[04:53] <coppro> no one knows how to turn off transparency on inactive windows in compiz?
[04:53] <\Kira> hey, whats that thing called were you can litterly merge two desktops? Like drap one window from a computers moniter to the other computers moniter and vis-vera? I forget what this is called, and is it possible on linux yet?
[04:54] <lucent> \Kira: dmx?
[04:54] <Terralthra> Kira - synergy
[04:54] <earthling> raylu : sorry that was for the other chat box :(
[04:54] <lucent> \Kira: or x2x aka synergy
[04:54] <raylu> lucent: somebody mentioned that configuring it in /etc/network/interfaces would make network manager ignore it
[04:54] <lucent> raylu: I mentioned that
[04:54] <\Kira> lucent, Terralthra: Thanks, ill look into them :)
[04:54] <raylu> lucent: ...oh.
[04:54] <Terralthra> lucent: is there a reasonable way to disable the nvidia thing?
[04:54] <lucent> raylu: so far it's not having the expected results for 2 wifi interfaces ;P
[04:55] <russ5811> hi all. i just formatted an external drive (ext3) with partition manager. now i am unable to write to it. i forgot the terminal commands to chmod it. can anyone help?
[04:55] <coppro> man chmod
[04:55] <sdlwof> when i login, motd reports system usage/temp. how can i find out what command is giving that info?
[04:55] <lucent> Terralthra: kill it with fire?    um... dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg maybe
[04:55] <lucent> Terralthra: there's a command like that, I forgot the exact one
[04:55] <kattollikisd> can someone tell  how do I put Medibuntu in 8.04? because I can't find the page of medibuntu
[04:56] <raylu> !medibuntu
[04:56] <vermont> When I click "hardware drivers" Intrepid just searches for available drivers for ever and stays on 0%. Nothing happens.
[04:56] <lucent> kattollikisd: ask them, not us please!
[04:56] <dennister> hey channel, looking for some help with a mini.iso installation...know base system was done installing, at brub installation step everything froze...can't even get past framebuffer with alt-f4
[04:56] <lucent> dennister: console 4?
[04:56] <earthling> is there a alternative for LFS
[04:56] <raylu> vermont: does sudo aptitude/apt-get update work?
[04:57] <dennister> i believe so...i often go alt-f4 during a framebugger-type installation to check progress, and then alt-f1 to go back to framebuffer
[04:57] <vermont> raylu...yes I'm updated.
[04:57] <onetinsoldier> earthling: i don't understand the question, any distro?
[04:57] <mker> What does "LifeTime(hours)" in smartctl show? How long the hard drive has been on during all the time I've had it?
[04:57] <raylu> vermont: no idea, then
[04:57] <raylu> vermont: but you can always install those drivers manually
[04:57] <earthling> onetinsoldier: LINUX FROM SCRATCH?
[04:57] <justizin> howdy, i seem to be able to configure LVM in the text-based / server install for intrepid, but not the desktop / liveusb, which is all i have available atm.  i'd like to use LVM volumes for virtual machines, are there any docs on this, or does anyone have any advice?
[04:58] <lucent> dennister: oh, just making sure, you know it's not unlike users to ask why alt-f4 doesn't close things
[04:58] <onetinsoldier> earthling: alternative --> any distro?
[04:58] <vermont> raylu...how might I do that?
[04:58] <dennister> lucent: i'm afraid that when I unplug system I'll have to do entire install over again, when all I should need to do is grub installation step
[04:58] <raylu> vermont: just... install it. it's just a package
[04:58] <lucent> dennister: I've had better luck with installing the full ISO from bootable USB
[04:58] <lucent> dennister: ohhh...
[04:58] <lucent> dennister: grub can be done on another boot
[04:58] <earthling> onetinsoldier: no any other alternative so that i could make  a custom distro for myself
[04:59] <dennister> lucent: nope, i'm actually the type who's getting rusty with winblows :)
[04:59] <raylu> dennister: grub-install
[04:59] <onetinsoldier> earthling: i do not think so.. no
[04:59] <lucent> dennister: don't even worry about that, grub is only slightly easier to deal with when the installer gets it right
[04:59] <mon^rch> can anyone reccomend a good linux compatible webcam?
[04:59] <onetinsoldier> earthling: either that or you do what Ubuntu has done, make one 'based upon' a distro
[04:59] <earthling> onetinsoldier: in fact anyother resource on net will also be helpfull.. the more cryptic the better
[04:59] <lucent> mon^rch: actually, yeah I can :)
[04:59] <threeparrots> Hi guys.. sure it's been asked before - support for SB Live EMU10k1??
[05:00] <mon^rch> mine dont work
[05:00] <dennister> lucent: so just shut off system, use livecd and then...?
[05:00] <lucent> mon^rch: Logitech Quickcam 9000 PRO    (but *NOT* the laptop version)
[05:00] <GuitarInc1> is there a way to keep ubuntu from writing to the MBR?
[05:00] <threeparrots> anyone??
[05:00] <mon^rch> lucent: please tell me I just bought one and it isnt compatible
[05:00] <lucent> mon^rch: it's expensive but the quality is better than any other cam, it plugs and plays, and includes a microphone
[05:00] <dennister> not sure how to proceed with rescueing install...
[05:00] <TriBeCa99> unavailable: got distracted there; i can't get that page to load
[05:00] <mon^rch> lucent: ty
[05:01] <mon^rch> lucent: I will go locitech
[05:01] <vermont> raylu: In package manager there's a lot of options that start with nvidia and a few are already installed...I don't know which ones to select
[05:01] <lucent> mon^rch: you sure?   my logi QC 9k pro just plugs in and it works, I'm running Ubuntu Desktop 8.10 Intrepid
[05:01] <earthling> onetinsoldier: have they given any detailed documentation of how they went from debian to ubuntu?
[05:01] <raylu> vermont: oh, you want nvidia drivers?
[05:01] <lucent> mon^rch: there's a quirk or two, which means I unplug and replug it sometimes if it "gets stuck"
[05:01] <lucent> mon^rch: it works though
[05:01] <Meta> I need to set up a MySQL user on my server, how do I do this?
[05:01] <mon^rch> lucent: thanks man this thing was really getting me mad
[05:01] <vermont> raylu yes...I just tried to install something and got this error: E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:01] <vermont> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[05:02] <vermont> god, I feel retarded
[05:02] <raylu> vermont: you're not root or some other package manager is running. you want nvidia-glx-177
[05:02] <threeparrots> SB Live EMU10k1 --- anyone know how to get this sound card working??
[05:02] <onetinsoldier> earthling: i have no idea. i can't help with that kind of thing at all, nor do i know anything about it.. other then years ago i dabbled with LFS for a bit, but decided that not having a package manger was not for me
[05:02] <dennister> brb...going outside for a 5-min cancer stick break
[05:03] <Meta> I need to set up a MySQL user on my server, how do I do this?
[05:03] <mindrape> threeparrots did you try modprobe emu10k1 ?
[05:03] <vermont> raylu, ok thanks. I'm going to log in and out to close all programs, then try again. Thanks...you're always helpful.
[05:03] <lanwanman> Meta: lamp
[05:03] <lucent> vermont: do not trust raylu, he is malfunctioning. root is not worthy of you. you want to conquer the world :P
[05:03] <mindrape> Meta - ask in #mysql
[05:03] <earthling> onetinsoldier: ok.. thanks for the help ;)
[05:03] <onetinsoldier> yw
[05:03] <Meta> GAH
[05:03] <raylu> Meta: from the mysql command line client. do you have a LAMP setup?
[05:03] <Meta> >_<
[05:03] <Meta> I have MySQL installed
[05:03] <vermont> lucent: lol, he hasn't given me bad advice yet. :)
[05:03] <lucent> Meta: are you familiar with configuring mysql in general?
[05:03] <raylu> Meta: apache/php?
[05:04] <FrozenFire> Hello everyone. When I first installed Ubuntu, I created a / partition, a swap, and a /home partition. My system is completely borked, and I need to reinstall Ubuntu. How can I do this without risking the destruction of my /home partition?
[05:04] <Meta> lucent: No.
[05:04] <Meta> raylu: Yes
[05:04] <raylu> vermont: you also don't own the world yet
[05:04] <raylu> Meta: phpmyadmin
[05:04] <threeparrots> mindrape: how exactly does that work
[05:04] <Meta> Geh
[05:04] <lucent> Meta: uh, it's not likely that you'll get a primer lesson in how to do that right here ;P  look for a guide or a forum thread on how to do it
[05:04] <raylu> Meta: ?
[05:04] <lucent> FrozenFire: depends, like, which partition is /home ? :P
[05:04] <Meta> I have MySQL set up, why can't I just use that, raylu?
[05:04] <coppro> FrozenFire: I would recommend reinstallilng without touching that partition, then modifying /etc/fstab appropriately
[05:05] <raylu> Meta: because it's not trivial
[05:05] <TriBeCa99> hey guys
[05:05] <Meta> raylu: Huh?
[05:05] <FrozenFire> lucent: /dev/sda6
[05:05] <TriBeCa99> i need help getting ubuntu to recognize my LAN drivers
[05:05] <raylu> Meta: there are plenty of guides on how to login to your mysql server as root from the cli client and create a user
[05:05] <TriBeCa99> it's nVidia nforce LAN
[05:05] <onetinsoldier> FrozenFire: in the installer choose to manually set up the partitions. chose to use that /home partition but not to format it. there's a checkbox to check or uncheck concerning the formatting of a partition
[05:05] <TriBeCa99> one barrier is i can't get the box online, obviously
[05:05] <mker> FrozenFire, just don't overwite the /home partition when you reinstall. Mount it but don't do any changes to it. The partition manager in the installer is pretty simple so you'll be alright
[05:05] <raylu> Meta: (basically, what lucent said)
[05:05] <lucent> FrozenFire: yeah just use the partitioner when you install, and mount /dev/sda6 as /home but do not format it
[05:05] <Meta> Blah
[05:05] <raylu> Meta: if you want to avoid that, phpmyadmin
[05:05] <earthling> FrozenFire: my personal fav solution-- take the hard disk out.. connect to other computer as secondry.. then mount that HD back up your artition /home and then do what u like with the HD
[05:05] <Meta> You guys suck at helping
[05:05] <FrozenFire> onetinsoldier: Won't that still overwrite the data in /home?
[05:05] <raylu> Meta: ...
[05:06] <GuitarInc1> threepatriots: ALSA doesn't automatically recognize it?
[05:06] <lucent> FrozenFire: I mean "just" well it's a bit freakier to do the first times you try, so just take it slow and confirm everything against your notes
[05:06] <heatX> hey guys, i'm new to the OS and i as wondering if anyone could explain to me how to get gOS running on top of ubuntu. i installed using WUBI on windows
[05:06] <lucent> raylu: I'm surprised he wasn't root@121.217.105.160
[05:06] <TurboBee> .
[05:06] <lucent> heatX: I wish I knew?
[05:06] <onetinsoldier> FrozenFire: if you choose to not format it... what's it going to overwrite? we alkting about a /home partition here. not a partition that contains /etc or /usr
[05:07] <onetinsoldier> talking*
[05:07] <earthling> FrozenFire: you can do as lucent says.. but my option is more fun :)
[05:07] <CntrySheepFahker> raylu: it never worked. Anyways ill try later.
[05:07] <Photoguy> Which Epiphany do I want? there is Gecko, Wbekit, or just plain Epiphany.
[05:07] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: sorry to hear that
[05:07] <lucent> lol @ earthling
[05:07] <FrozenFire> onetinsoldier: I don't know, perhaps certain settings like .bash?
[05:07]  * integraldeviatio lolz
[05:07] <mker> Photoguy, Epiphany-webkit isn't very usable IMO, at least not yet
[05:07] <\Kira> I know to restart the ssh dameon you type: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart. But, what if Im changing things in my ssh connection, not the server. I changed the keepalive value, and I want it to be used in the next sessions. How can I do this?
[05:07] <Photoguy> Oh?
[05:07] <Photoguy> mker: do you know of a lightweight browser?
[05:08] <TriBeCa99> can anyone help me get my nforce LAN drivers up and running?
[05:08] <lucent> \Kira: it's complicated, there's a series of in-session commands, and I always forget what they're triggered by
[05:08] <raylu> FrozenFire: only the partition mounted at / must be formatted
[05:08] <raylu> FrozenFire: the others are optional
[05:08] <lucent> \Kira: I think?  it's ~
[05:08] <CntrySheepFahker> raylu: Do you know how to set up compiz. I mean I know it comes default and I have my appearance, visual effect on extra. But how do I get cube and stuff working? Any clue?
[05:08] <mker> Photoguy, I'd go with epiphany-gecko until the one using webkit has matured.
[05:08] <raylu> Photoguy: links
[05:08] <lucent> \Kira: man ssh    i think
[05:08] <TriBeCa99> it's starting to feel like it'd be easier to tear down two of my boxes and switch to a board it'll pick up on install
[05:08] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: i used to; not any more
[05:08] <Photoguy> ok
[05:08] <earthling> lucent: sorry .. but i just hate when installation GUI's start doing more than they are supposed to do.. isnt instaling linux using a GUI bad enough :p
[05:08] <lucent> TriBeCa99: agree with you on that
[05:08] <Photoguy> raylu links?
[05:08] <raylu> \Kira: disconnect and reconnect?
[05:08] <CntrySheepFahker> raylu: Ok, I wonder if theres a command to bring up a compiz manager or something that has settings or switches.
[05:08] <onetinsoldier> FrozenFire: oh.. it might, i'm not certain. you could always start off with a different user, then go in there and make a backup of the files, then create that old user again and start using him again
[05:08] <dennister> back...can someone please help me rescue this install? nothing is yet installed onto the mbr on sda2, and I do not want it installed onto the mbr of sda1, where winblows is installed
[05:09] <raylu> Photoguy: cli browser :D
[05:09] <FrozenFire> Well, thanks all. I'll try what was suggested.
[05:09] <\Kira> lucent: ? I think I worded my question wrong.... I changed my /etc/ssh/ssh_config file, and I want this change to happen in the next connection. As far as I know, restarting the ssh dameon restarts the server.
[05:09] <TriBeCa99> lucent lol
[05:09] <vermont> I'm sorry I keep popping in and out. I keep getting this error: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:09] <vermont> E: Unable to lock the download directory. And I can't figure it out.
[05:09] <FrozenFire> I'll make a backup just in case ;)
[05:09] <lucent> earthling: I remember when installing linux with a bad GUI was enough
[05:09] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: there is a package with a gui manager
[05:09] <tiyowan> Photoguy: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Alternatives <- Contains a comprehensive list of software for your Ubuntu system that you might want to try out.
[05:09] <[T]ank> I can ssh from the inside network, but not from the outside. Any ideas?
[05:09] <raylu> \Kira: disconnect and reconnect?
[05:09] <lucent> \Kira: oh, ssh re-reads the config files
[05:09] <CntrySheepFahker> raylu: Will I need it? I mean I thought the newest ubuntu comes packed with compiz. I have the bouncy chat boxes now.
[05:09] <raylu> vermont: you're not root. add sudo
[05:09] <\Kira> raylu: I think i worded by question wrong... I changed my /etc/ssh/ssh_config file, and I want this change to happen in the next connection. Would reconnecting do it? How could I check?
[05:09] <raylu> vermont: or, possibly, another package manager is running (pgrep -l dpkg
[05:09] <giacomo> is it possible to view the init output in any logfile?
[05:09] <lucent> \Kira: like we're confused because we find this pretty obvious, sorry I didn't know what to say
[05:10] <raylu> \Kira: ...for the 3rd time, yes
[05:10]  * FetusMuncherBBB jumps up
[05:10] <jbmigel> [T]ank you have to configure your router to pass ssh to a specific machine
[05:10] <TriBeCa99> lucent: problem is the board in the ubuntu rig won't OC as well as the one in my gaming rig :-/
[05:10] <sfuentes> [T]ank: maybe ur gateway is block port 22
[05:10] <\Kira> lucent, raylu: sorry, im rather new to servers.... Thanks, though
[05:10] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: again, no idea. i find the animations annoying :P
[05:10] <onetinsoldier> vermont: hello?
[05:10] <lucent> TriBeCa99: okay you said the magic word "OC" as in "take your chances shouting BOMB on an airplane, good luck!"
[05:10]  * raylu looks at FetusMuncherBBB
[05:10] <vermont> raylu: oh, I was using the package manager. I typed that command and tried again and it didnt work
[05:10] <CntrySheepFahker> raylu: Yeah but its something I wanna c since I come from vista :)
[05:10] <vermont> onetinsoldier, hello
[05:11] <[TiZ]> Hi. I have the infinite misfortune to be experiencing several problems all at once, and after having just solved other ones. First problem: The login sound is playing AFTER I log in. You know, the drum sound. Second problem: Sound is lagging in some applications, like DosBox and some Wine applications. Third: My /etc/resolv.conf only appears to update correctly when I connect to my university's wifi. If I connect at home, I have to edit my /
[05:11] <[TiZ]> etc/resolv.conf myself to get internet access. Can anyone help me with any of these?
[05:11] <raylu> vermont: if that command shows anything, you still have a package manager open
[05:11] <onetinsoldier> vermont: ok,nvm. i guess raylu got you
[05:11] <dennister> back...can someone please help me rescue this install? nothing is yet installed onto the mbr on sda2, and I do not want it installed onto the mbr of sda1, where winblows is installed
[05:11]  * FetusMuncherBBB gets excited and strips
[05:11] <lucent> \Kira: no I just get jaded over time and forget that long time ago when I learned this all
[05:11] <CntrySheepFahker> raylu: do you know what version of ubuntu I'm using I mean the name like fusion or what not
[05:11] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: system > preferences > ..something. appearance, i think, will have desktop effects
[05:11] <vermont> raylu, it doesn't show anything
[05:11] <\Kira> lucent: I see.
[05:11] <[TiZ]> Ubuntu Intrepid, by the way.
[05:11] <gizmo> i dont understand how to wget using terminal
[05:11] <raylu> vermont: are you using apt with sudo?
[05:11] <vermont> onetinsoldier, I appreciate any help I can get.
[05:12] <lucent> [TiZ]: first, your problems make me laugh, because they're so weird and I've had them at one time or another...
[05:12] <gizmo> can anyone help me how to wget using terminal..?
[05:12] <CntrySheepFahker> raylu: Yeah I done that part of it, and have the bouncy boxes but thats all I notice. not cube spinning 3d stuff
[05:12] <jbmigel> gizmo man you like type wget http://download/link/to/freebsd
[05:12] <Out_Cold> lucent, may i have a word mate?
[05:12] <dennister> back...can someone please help me rescue this install? nothing is yet installed onto the mbr on sda2, and I do not want it installed onto the mbr of sda1, where winblows is installed
[05:12] <raylu> [TiZ]: the login sound is supposed to play after you login. system > prefs > session
[05:12] <onetinsoldier> vermont: if problem persists after having a look like raylu suggested... try what the bot says
[05:12] <lucent> Out_Cold: eshattow@zontar:~$ cat /usr/share/dict/words | rl | head -n1
[05:12] <onetinsoldier> !aptfix | vermont
[05:12] <lucent> bivalves
[05:12] <CntrySheepFahker> Anyone know how to get to setting for compiz to turn the 3d cube on?
[05:12] <Diegoattack> wget adressofarchive
[05:12] <lucent> there's your word
[05:12] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: ah. i think you have to install compiz 'n stuff.
[05:12] <Photoguy> What is a good IRC client? I don't like Xchat. Is Chatzilla also standalone?
[05:13] <[TiZ]> raylu: That's not the one I mean. I mean the quick little drum beat at the login screen. After I log in, I get the drum beat then the login sound.
[05:13] <dotblank> Hey that mode setting in xorg didnot work
[05:13] <onetinsoldier> Photoguy: irssi
[05:13] <lucent> Photoguy: irssi
[05:13] <tiyowan> CntrySheepFahker: Does Compiz Settings show up in your System -> Preferences?
[05:13] <onetinsoldier> lucent: :-)
[05:13] <Out_Cold> not quite the word i was looking for lucent
[05:13] <Out_Cold> lol
[05:13] <[TiZ]> lucent: That's funny. Linux sound is so convoluted, huh? It's weird that resolv.conf would break, though.
[05:13] <lucent> come on irssi folks, where's your knob?  tell 'em
[05:13] <joljam> I am having a problem detecting my usb phone from ubuntu
[05:13] <dennister> back...can someone please help me rescue this install? nothing is yet installed onto the mbr on sda2, and I do not want it installed onto the mbr of sda1, where winblows is installed
[05:13] <raylu> Photoguy: what they said. also, konversation (kde) is nice
[05:13] <joljam> someone please help me with it
[05:13] <Photoguy> Ok.
[05:14] <raylu> [TiZ]: woah...
[05:14] <lucent> [TiZ]: the sound thing is most definitely some issue with PulseAudio and your ... whatever
[05:14] <CntrySheepFahker> tiyowan: No
[05:14] <gizmo> --2008-12-19 13:14:00--  http://download/www.pysbnc.at/psybnc
[05:14] <gizmo> Resolving download... failed: Name or service not known.
[05:14] <gizmo> wget: unable to resolve host address `download'
[05:14] <FloodBot2> gizmo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:14] <lucent> [TiZ]: resolv.conf issue is probably just some thing with NetworkManager
[05:14] <gizmo> ok..
[05:14] <gizmo> sorry2
[05:14] <tiyowan> CntrySheepFahker: You need to install Compiz then.
[05:14] <raylu> gizmo: ... in what way does that look like a valid url?
[05:14] <[TiZ]> lucent: It seems a lot of people are removing PulseAudio from Intrepid due to stuff like this. Would you recommend this course of action?
[05:14] <gizmo> wait
[05:14] <jbmigel> gizmo your link is totally messed up... double check it
[05:14] <dennister> back...can someone please help me rescue this install? nothing is yet installed onto the mbr on sda2, and I do not want it installed onto the mbr of sda1, where winblows is installed
[05:14] <CntrySheepFahker> tiyowan: someone told me compiz is already pre packed with newest ubuntu.
[05:15] <raylu> [TiZ]: yes, since you can always install it again :D
[05:15] <[TiZ]> lucent: And I use wicd, so I guess I should look to their site to find out about that.
[05:15] <gizmo> http://www.psybnc.at/download.html<--this is the link..
[05:15] <lucent> [TiZ]: I don't have a problem with PulseAudio, it just needs some love
[05:15] <gizmo> but when i d/l..i never get anything
[05:15] <tiyowan> CntrySheepFahker: Ah, it is. Hmmm. But you need to install an additional package to be able to set the fancy cubes et al. At least I had to do. Wait one.
[05:15] <lucent> [TiZ]: wicd is probably why you're getting issues with resolv.conf
[05:15] <[TiZ]> PulseAudio was awesome in Hardy
[05:15] <vermont> raylu: I just did what the bot said...no dice. What I'm doing is going into Package manager marking nvidia-glx-177 and clicking apply
[05:15] <[TiZ]> It seems totally broken in Intrepid. What went wrong?
[05:16] <jbmigel> gizmo why are you trying to download an html page? dont you think you should enter the link of the .iso file you want/
[05:16] <raylu> vermont: sounds like you used a mouse.
[05:16] <dennister> why am i being ignored here? I have been patient while others who come into channel after me get helped
[05:16] <mindrape> !patient | dennister
[05:16] <mindrape> !patience | dennister
[05:16] <gizmo> i dont know where to fine it..
[05:16] <raylu> dennister: there is no mbr on sda2...the mbr is on sda
[05:16] <Brack10> onetinsoldier: Purge and reinstall then restarting X did not work.  Now when I click FF it loads for a sec then quits.  Sudo firefox still works fine
[05:16] <scunizi> dennister, doesn't sound like a rescue.. sounds like a modification .. if you allow it to install grub on sda1 then you can fix it with a windows cd and fixmbr.. but then you'll have to pull the cable off that drive, boot to a live cd and install grub on sdb1.. then the only way to toggle back and forth is changing the boot order of the drives in bios.
[05:17] <jbmigel> gizmo you want freebsd 7 then? for x86?
[05:17] <vermont> raylu...like a usb mouse? can I not do that?
[05:17] <CntrySheepFahker> tiyowan: well in update manager I did see something saying compiz, I installed it also, not sure what it was.
[05:17] <gizmo> jbmigel: nope i want psybnc...
[05:17] <raylu> Brack10: if it's not a per-user configuration issue, i'm guessing a permission somewhere went screwy
[05:17] <gizmo> cancel freebsd
[05:17] <raylu> vermont: haha, sorry. i meant you used the gui
[05:17] <CntrySheepFahker> tiyowan: do you know command to bring up compiz-manager? just to see if it comes up
[05:17] <raylu> vermont: sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-177
[05:17] <tiyowan> CntrySheepFahker: "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager" form a terminal. Then you should be able to set stuff through System -> Pref. -> Compiz settings.
[05:17] <CntrySheepFahker> tiyowan: THanks
[05:18] <dennister> scunizi: that's exactly what I want to be able to do: toggle back and forth by changing boot order in bios
[05:18] <tiyowan> dennister: Um, what version of Windows are you using?
[05:18] <onetinsoldier> dennister: it's busy in here. plaeny of messages. just repeat your problem every few minutes and be patient. some people that could know how to help you might be too busy helping someone else and might not have even seen you problem yet
[05:18] <onetinsoldier> plenty*
[05:18] <jbmigel> gizmo try this : wget http://www.psybnc.at/download/beta/psyBNC-2.3.2-7.tar.gz
[05:18] <kevdog> need good irc client -- Recommendations?
[05:18] <gizmo> k..
[05:18] <scunizi> dennister, why be that convoluted with it?
[05:18] <fryguy> kevdog: irssi
[05:18] <vermont> raylu: I just did it and I PMed you the result
[05:18] <dennister> tiyowan: w2k...
[05:18] <raylu> kevdog: seconded
[05:18] <Brack10> raylu:  Is there some way to get my FF output so I can get a better idea of perhaps which permissions?
[05:18] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: as i said.. i have no idea, since removing the .mozzila dir doesn't do any good.. sorry
[05:19] <fryguy> Brack10: run it from a command line
[05:19] <kevdog> Definitely going to check that out -- thanks for input
[05:19] <dennister> scunizi: for various reasons (user-related) i won't bore you with at the moment
[05:19] <tiyowan> kevdog: Xchat. Or if you want something CLI, definitely irssi.
[05:19] <TriBeCa99> !forcedeth > TriBeCa99
[05:19] <Brack10> fryguy:  It launches and then goes back to a prompt
[05:19] <eseven73> kevdog: irssi, xchat
[05:19] <raylu> vermont: close your package manager
[05:19] <TriBeCa99> :-/
[05:19] <fryguy> Brack10: use strace and debug it then
[05:19] <Brack10> fryguy: that only works if I sudo it
[05:19] <Brack10> oh
[05:19] <Brack10> ok
[05:19] <kevdog> Anything good thats cross platform?
[05:19] <tiyowan> dennister: Um, why don't you just go through with a standard install? GRUB will happily coexist with Windows.
[05:19] <fryguy> kevdog: irssi is available for every platform that i know of
[05:19] <dennister> onetinsoldier: i have been doing exactly that, be patient while i repeat my question...only when I ran out of patience am I getting assistance :)
[05:19] <gizmo> Connecting to www.psybnc.at|213.239.200.175|:80... connected.
[05:19] <gizmo> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[05:19] <gizmo> 2008-12-19 13:19:20 ERROR 404: Not Found.
[05:20] <raylu> kevdog: xchat and irssi again ;D
[05:20] <FloodBot2> gizmo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:20] <scunizi> dennister, k.. I did that for a while.. you can "hide" the grub menu from others so they never see it and set it up so windows boots first .. if that helps.
[05:20] <gizmo> whats that mean
[05:20] <onetinsoldier> dennister: i hear you, lol
[05:20] <kevdog> going to check out irssi -- xchat in ms you have to pay after a trial period
[05:20] <fryguy> kevdog: no
[05:20] <mker> kevdog, there should be a free unofficial version too
[05:20] <vermont> raylu: oh, ha ha. see I'm retarded
[05:21] <jbmigel> gizmo you must have spelt it wrong
[05:21] <Brack10> also when I get this firefox problem fixed...is there a decent widget engine for linux?  Screenlets blow, ggl-gtk ruined my computer, gdesklets are useless.... I REALLY miss konfabulator
[05:21] <dennister> scunizi: actually, i want the boot order (in bios) to go to sda2, which will have grub with kubuntu the default, and winblows at the end of the choices
[05:21] <gizmo> jbmigel: i follow what u type
[05:21] <raylu> Brack10: no, but you can make a clock appear in your terminal, which is awesome
[05:21] <TriBeCa99> ok let's try something simpler. how do i configure my ethernet adapter?
[05:21] <fryguy> dennister: why do you want your bios to do that instead of a bootloader?
[05:21] <tiyowan> dennister: Again, I need to ask why?
[05:22] <raylu> TriBeCa99: you said simpler
[05:22] <jbmigel> gizmo it works for me.... are you sure you followed it exactly
[05:22] <Brack10> raylu: that is not awesome
[05:22] <Brack10> :(
[05:22] <raylu> Brack10: :(
[05:22] <vermont> raylu, i had to insert my install disk...that's normal right?
[05:22] <TriBeCa99> raylu: did you see my initial problem?
[05:22] <gizmo> jbmigel: yeah2 already done..so how to open the psybnc?
[05:22] <raylu> vermont: um... yes and no
[05:22] <raylu> vermont: i find that annoying, so i disabled the cd repository
[05:22] <raylu> TriBeCa99: raid?
[05:22] <fryguy> Brack10: check out conky i guess.  I don't waste screen space with random widgets, so I don't know what to tell you
[05:22] <jbmigel> gizmo i dont know you're on your own
[05:22] <vermont> raylu: I need to restart for it to work?
[05:22] <TriBeCa99> basically i'm not able to get online at all. i've been assuming it's because ubuntu hasn't recognized the onboard LAN
[05:22] <gizmo> jbmigel: i mean after download how to open it?
[05:23] <TriBeCa99> but i'm wondering if it's just not configured properly
[05:23] <fryguy> TriBeCa99: ifconfig -a, is there any entries besides lo
[05:23] <Brack10> fryguy: two words: widget layer
[05:23] <tiyowan> TriBeCa99: DO you see it when you type "ifconfig"?
[05:23] <raylu> vermont: no, just logout and ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:23] <raylu> vermont: or, if you're impatient, close anything not important and ctrl+alt+bksp
[05:23] <TriBeCa99> ifconfig shows eth0
[05:23] <fryguy> Brack10: if i need information about my system, i query it
[05:23] <jbmigel> gizmo try this command: man tar
[05:23] <TriBeCa99> fryguy and tiyowan
[05:23] <scunizi> dennister, so 1 drive but multiple partitions for ubuntu and windows.. but you don't want grub on the mbr.. sorry.. on the same drive you're stuck I think.. if you had a secondary drive it would be possible.
[05:23] <fryguy> TriBeCa99: and does eth0 have an IP address
[05:23] <tiyowan> TriBeCa99: If shows the status as UP? Does it have an IP address?
[05:23] <Brack10> fryguy:  Can you query weather and stock information?
[05:23] <fryguy> Brack10: sure can
[05:23] <dennister> ok, to all those who keep asking why: this pc is for a linux newbie...i put all of the linux installation on 2nd big(ger) drive instead of in a 2nd partition on sda1...that way, mbr/ntloader on sda1 does NOT get changed
[05:24] <tiyowan> er, it.
[05:24] <CntrySheepFahker> tiyowan: THank man I got it working :D, CHeers
[05:24] <Dolo> anyone here have an ipod?
[05:24] <TriBeCa99> 192.168.1.71
[05:24] <TriBeCa99> but my router is DHCP
[05:24] <vermont> raylu...one more thing...is that "error: unable to lock etc..." important? Should I do something about it?
[05:24] <dennister> scunizi: ^^^^
[05:24] <onetinsoldier> jbmigel: i have used tar enough to come to grips with it..but man, i hate that man page, lol.
[05:24] <Brack10> fryguy: I guess I'm just a visual person
[05:24] <raylu> vermont: um...yes...
[05:24] <fryguy> TriBeCa99: what happens if you type 'ping google.com' in a terminal
[05:24] <tiyowan> TriBeCa99: Can you do this? ping yahoo.com?
[05:24] <raylu> vermont: did you still get that after closing synaptic?
[05:24] <raylu> host > ping
[05:24] <TriBeCa99> nothing
[05:24] <jbmigel> onetinesoldier lol ya i was just trying to blow him off
[05:24] <onetinsoldier> jbmigel: i understand
[05:24] <mysticdarkhack> hey all
[05:24] <tiyowan> TriBeCa99: Can you ping your router?
[05:25] <TriBeCa99> tiyowan fryguy my router doesn't show it as connected
[05:25] <raylu> onetinsoldier: ever read the manpage for mplayer?
[05:25] <TriBeCa99> it's not in my DHCP client list ont he router
[05:25] <fryguy> TriBeCa99: i don't care about what your router shows, i care about the behavior on the ubuntu machine
[05:25] <vermont> not when I typed it into terminal, everything is installed now I believe. I'm just worried about using the package manager...because it didnt seem like anything else was open, when I tried it the first time.
[05:25] <gizmo> jbmigel: how to delete the file that we d/l in terminal?
[05:25] <vermont> raylu^
[05:25] <raylu> vermont: right, the package manager locks the db when it's open
[05:25] <fryguy> gizmo: use the rm command
[05:25] <scunizi> dennister, k.. sda<number> is the first drive... sdb<number> is the second drive.. numbers represent the partitions on a particular drive.. you said kubuntu was on sda2.. that would be the first drive second partition.
[05:25] <mysticdarkhack> that may sound dumb, but what is the orange bar over the menu call since I'm trying to opacity it?
[05:25] <tiyowan> TriBeCa99: Ignore what your router says for now. Do this, please. ping routerip
[05:25] <weternal> hey I'm trying to get Tor working in ubuntu 8.10, what packages do I need, and how should I set them up?
[05:25] <mindrape> fryguy - if his router doesnt see it then maybe he's on a different subnet or maybe he's connecting wirelessly to a neighbors AP on accident?
[05:25] <raylu> vermont: if you mean whether you should still worry about it, no
[05:25] <vermont> raylu: okay thank you! I really appreciate your help.
[05:26] <TriBeCa99> fryguy: google.com is an unknown host, pinging the router shows it unreachable
[05:26] <raylu> vermont: that's ubuntu being safe and not allowing two package managers to mess around simultaneously
[05:26] <fryguy> mindrape: which is what i'm getting to by trying to have him ping something, i'm working backwards
[05:26] <dennister> scunizi: not 1 physical drive with multiple partitions...2 physical drives...yes, exactly, and nothing is yet on mbr of sda2
[05:26] <lucent> weternal: this is documented on the tor website?
[05:26] <onetinsoldier> raylu: years ago, i have used linux off and on for years. only started using it again about a month ago. but i was around and read the man page when MPlayer first came out
[05:26] <fryguy> TriBeCa99: and what happens if you ping 192.168.1.1
[05:26] <kevdog> tribeca99 -- what exactly is the problem?
[05:26] <raylu> onetinsoldier: yikes.
[05:26] <tiyowan> kevdog: He can't use the net.
[05:26] <Dolo> anyone know about ipod and m4b files like audio books
[05:26]  * lucent waits for 192.168.1.1 to punch someone in the face 
[05:26] <scunizi> dennister, sda2 and sda1 are the same drive .. just different partitions
[05:26] <TriBeCa99> fryguy: unreachable
[05:27] <tiyowan> !partition
[05:27] <kevdog> is this a wireless or wired connection?
[05:27] <fryguy> TriBeCa99: what is the netmask in ifconfig
[05:27] <lucent> "shouldn't have pinged."
[05:27] <mxweas> I'm using Ubuntu inside of VMWare Fusion, so no modelines are written to xorg.conf, how do I set my default login screen resolution?
[05:27] <tiyowan> dennister: See above.
[05:27] <mxweas> its currently stuck at 800x600
[05:27] <Photoguy> Is there a .deb for Racer?
[05:27] <dennister> scunizi: oops, yes, your right...win and 2nd partition are on sda...linux on sdb
[05:27] <Photoguy> Open source racing game.
[05:27] <lucent> mxweas: great question, don't know the answer myself
[05:27] <lucent> mxweas: it used to be configured in a GDM file
[05:27] <dennister> sorry 'bout causing the confusion
[05:27] <gizmo> how to exit the man tar
[05:27] <kevdog> Straight up ubuntu install or some vmware install
[05:27] <TriBeCa99> 255.255.255.0
[05:27] <onetinsoldier> Photoguy: i think there is..seems like i saw one somewhere recently
[05:27] <mxweas>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf is all I can find :(
[05:27] <TriBeCa99> fryguy
[05:28] <kevdog> exit man tar by typing :q
[05:28] <scunizi> dennister, and are you just installing now to the second drive?
[05:28] <tiyowan> TriBeCa99: Can you ping 192.168.1.1?
[05:28] <fryguy> tiyowan: he can't
[05:28] <raylu> kevdog, gizmo: or just q
[05:28] <histo> kevdog, or ctrl+c
[05:28] <tiyowan> Hmm.
[05:28] <histo> kevdog, or q
[05:28] <kevdog> colon then q
[05:28] <fryguy> TriBeCa99: is 192.168.1.1 listed as a route in the route command?
[05:28] <TriBeCa99> tiyowan: unreachable
[05:28] <raylu> or...just q
[05:28] <onetinsoldier> Photoguy: xracer - Futuristic racing game
[05:28] <vermont> one last question for anybody: songbird or amarok?
[05:28] <kevdog> ok, just q then fine -- you got me
[05:28] <raylu> vermont: exaile
[05:28] <fryguy> vermont: neither, i use mpd
[05:28] <onetinsoldier> Photoguy: is that it?
[05:29] <mxweas> is there a utility I can install to just change it?
[05:29] <raylu> kevdog: victory!
[05:29] <mindrape> vermont why dont you try them both... ?
[05:29] <scunizi> dennister, as in real time .. now?
[05:29] <dennister> scunizi: yes, all install onto sdb worked, until installing grub froze entire system...will have to unplug machine and don't want to do entire install over again when it's just installing grub onto mbr of sdb is required
[05:29] <fde> vermont: Amarok 2
[05:29] <mxweas> cause I've messed with this config and it doesnt seem to like anything I do
[05:29] <Photoguy> no http://www.racer.nl/
[05:29] <TriBeCa99> fryguy: no
[05:29] <kevdog> I lose once again
[05:29] <gizmo> very hard to use terminal
[05:29] <onetinsoldier> Photoguy: ok, roger
[05:29] <raylu> kevdog: now, about your first-born child
[05:29] <kevdog> you can have her -- that's fine with me - - I guess I win now ;)
[05:30] <vermont> ha ha, word, thanks everyone. I will try them both...and exaile, and mpd. I have some time. (raylu, fryguy, mindrape, fde)
[05:30] <fryguy> TriBeCa99: ps -ef | grep dhclient, is it running
[05:30] <kevdog> TriBeCa99 -- wired or wireless?
[05:30] <fryguy> kevdog: it's a wired connection
[05:30] <weternal> lucent: was having some trouble finding documentation using google, "Tor ubuntu 8.10" turned up a lot of torrents
[05:30] <dotblank> AHHH!, I tried changing the resolution manually and everytime it does not work
[05:30] <justizin> hello, i just installed intrepid onto a core 2 duo e8400 with 4G of RAM, but only 2.9G is recognized, kvm/virt-manager throws an error when i try to create an x86_64 vm, and uname -a says i686..  any ideas what might be up?
[05:30] <kevdog> Wired connection having problems?
[05:30] <justizin> kernel's package says it is i386/x86_64
[05:30] <scunizi> dennister, installing grub froze your system or did you cancel it?  if the install is hosed at this point then yank the connector from sda (1st drive) and reinstall to the secondary drive making sure that grub is written as part of the process. Plug drive 1 back in and test booting from each drive.
[05:30] <raylu> weternal: -torrents
[05:31] <kevdog> Thats wierd --
[05:31] <fryguy> justizin: if you are using x86, you can only address a certain amount of ram, if you are getting an error trying to use x64, that's probably an issue with your virtualization mechanism
[05:31] <kevdog> lshw -C network -- is appropriate driver loaded
[05:31] <TriBeCa99> fryguy: i got 1 line response, showing a list i have no idea how to read. is that running?
[05:31] <fryguy> kevdog: of course it is, he has an eth0 interface
[05:31] <TriBeCa99> kevdog: wired
[05:31] <lucent> weternal: heh... good lad though
[05:31] <fryguy> TriBeCa99: paste the line
[05:31] <kevdog> eth0:avahi?
[05:31] <dotblank> AHHH!, I tried changing the resolution manually and everytime it does not work
[05:32] <lucent> weternal: it's on the tor website, I find it google for "tor anonymous"
[05:32] <tiyowan> TriBeCa99: Is the light switched on your network card at the back of the computer?
[05:32] <kevdog> sudo dhclient eth0
[05:32] <kevdog> How hard can that be?
[05:32] <fryguy> kevdog: don't run it if it's already running
[05:32] <fryguy> kevdog: which is what i'm in the middle of checking now
[05:32] <dennister> scunizi: yes, installing grub froze system...can't even budge the kvm it's connected to...unpluged kvm and light won't even go off! lol
[05:32] <justizin> fryguy: core 2 duo is a 64-bit cpu, my bios reports it as emt64 capable, what do i have to do to get it to address all of the ram?
[05:32] <kevdog> sudo dhclient -r eth0
[05:33] <kevdog> sudo ifconfig eth0 down, sudo ifconfig eth0 up, sudo dhclient eth0
[05:33] <scunizi> dennister, kvm might have done it.. when reinstalling go direct and no kvm..
[05:33] <raylu> (this is what happens when more than one person tries to provide support)
[05:33] <dotblank> Here is my http://pastebin.com/m18744420 yet it defaults back to 1024x768 on monitor1
[05:33] <fryguy> justizin: you are using virtualization, which means you aren't using your processor, you are using virtualization.  it's depending on your virtualization software
[05:33] <dennister> although i'm sure that when i unplug offending, frozen system, kvm will allow me to access second system it's connected to
[05:33] <TriBeCa99> nice, wow it works
[05:33] <TriBeCa99> that's brilliant
[05:33] <TriBeCa99> so umm
[05:33] <TriBeCa99> the cable had slipped out
[05:33] <raylu> ...
[05:33] <TriBeCa99> i forgot the clip is broken
[05:33] <tiyowan> TriBeCa99: :-D
[05:33] <TriBeCa99> :D
[05:33] <raylu> a slap is in order here
[05:34] <TriBeCa99> yeah
[05:34] <TriBeCa99> i'll take it
[05:34] <dennister> scunizi: do i really have to do a whole install again?
[05:34] <kevdog> ridicuous
[05:34]  * onetinsoldier slaps TriBeCa99 with a large trout
[05:34] <justizin> whups, my netbook suspended ;d
[05:34]  * TriBeCa99 slaps TriBeCa99
[05:34] <tiyowan> TriBeCa99: No worries, mate. It has happened to me, too. :)
[05:34] <dennister> sorry, but I was hoping to rescue the almost-finished install so I wouldn't have to do it all over again
[05:34] <kevdog> I guess next time I'll make sure that the computer is plugged in or has batteries
[05:34] <gizmo> how i want to set profile in one terminal?
[05:34] <TriBeCa99> errr. yeah sorry about that
[05:34] <scunizi> dennister, some kvm's cause issues with ubuntu.. other's will hopefully give some input here.  I'm not much up on kvm.. Whole install? maybe the best option.. 30-40 minutes tops. . not like windows..
[05:35] <TriBeCa99> before i switch it over to being a server i'll have to replace that LAN cable
[05:35] <kevdog> Do that!
[05:35] <TriBeCa99> :p
[05:35] <onetinsoldier> TriBeCa99: i've had the same thing... mine doesn't even have a clip, so....
[05:35] <onetinsoldier> TriBeCa99: i've had the same thing happen... mine doesn't even have a clip, so....
[05:35] <badfish69> is shockwave an option with ubuntu hardy and ff3?
[05:35] <kevdog> What the heck else is going on in this room??
[05:36] <justizin> fryguy: did i possibly miss a response from you?
[05:36] <dennister> scunizi: i've never had this issue with kvm...installed dozens of systems already with it, and it's never taken 30-40 minutes
[05:36] <fryguy> justizin: no idea
[05:36] <dennister> but i'll take your word for it
[05:36] <Jordan_U> badfish69, Shockwave is only available via wine
[05:36] <badfish69> crap
[05:37] <scunizi> dennister, you mean installing ubuntu doesn't take 30-40 minutes?  maybe a little exageration.. probably with the updates.
[05:37] <tiyowan> badfish69: Shockwave plugin right?
[05:37] <lucent> raylu: come on, "is it plugged in?"  what do I look like, the kind of person who  - oops it's not plugged in! I swear it was a ghost that unplugged it, I've been ROBBED
[05:37] <badfish69> yeah
[05:37] <tiyowan> badfish69: Don't know Hardy, but Intrepid has it I think. Lemme check.
[05:37] <gizmo> can anyone teach me how to create profile in one terminal?
[05:37] <dennister> scunizi: that's why i like mini.iso method...fast and no time for updates needed
[05:37] <fryguy> gizmo: change the profile in the menu
[05:37] <kevdog> e17 users here?
[05:38] <scunizi> dennister, I'll take your word for it.. never done it that way.
[05:38] <tiyowan> gizmo: You should find in in your menu bar.
[05:38] <gizmo> i dont see any menu in terminal
[05:38] <dennister> I just shut frozen system off...and it has now let go of the kvm so I don't have to shut server down, too
[05:38] <tiyowan> badfish69: Yep. It's there in intrepid.
[05:38] <justizin> fryguy: well, did you respond to my last comment about core 2 duo being a 64-bit cpu?  that should mean it runs as x86_64 and 64-bit or no, emt64 should mean addressing more RAM
[05:38] <onetinsoldier> kevdog: no, but ireally like enlightenment. perhaps i should try e17
[05:38] <Guest7411_955> hi
[05:38] <tiyowan> gizmo: Right-click the terminal and select Show menu bar.
[05:38] <gizmo> then?
[05:38] <justizin> i'm just trying to figure out why this system is running in 32-bit mode.  i fished around for bios options as much as possible..
[05:38] <fryguy> justizin: you are running via virtualization, which means your compatibility is dependant on the virutalization software you are using
[05:39] <kevdog> How do you really like enlightenment if you haven't tried it?
[05:39] <gizmo> my change menu is invisble..
[05:39] <eseven73> onetinsoldier: whats the difference of e17 and enlightenment?
[05:39] <justizin> fryguy: forget virtualization, the system i installed on the hard drive is 32-bit..
[05:39] <tiyowan> gizmo: Then click on Edit -> Profile Preferences.
[05:39] <justizin> on a 64-bit cpu..
[05:39] <fryguy> justizin: so then it'32 bit.. what do you expect it to do?
[05:39] <justizin> that's what i'm trying to solve, at the core..
[05:39] <kevdog> e17 latest version of enlightenment
[05:39] <justizin> i want to know why my 64-bit cpu is not running as x86_64!
[05:39] <justizin> lol
[05:39] <onetinsoldier> kevdog: e17 is a newer version? right..? i was an e15 and e16 user.. so i have been a user of enlightenment before
[05:39] <justizin> why is that a ridiculous question?
[05:40] <tiyowan> justizin: Pardon me for asking this, but any reason why you didn't just install the 64 bit version?
[05:40] <fryguy> justizin: because you didn't install x86_64, you installed x86...
[05:40] <justizin> tiyowan: there is only one version, the package says it is i386/x86_64
[05:40] <kevdog> oh -- I just started with e17 --  I guess that would mean there were 16 prior versions
[05:40] <justizin> i have no option to install x86_64.. please examine your ubuntu intrepid systems and tell me what package i can install..
[05:40] <eseven73> enlightenment is pretty nice but i just dont like the epplets widgets
[05:40] <justizin> if i am overlooking something, i will give you christmas beer :)
[05:40] <fryguy> justizin: package? you are talking about a base install. please clarify exactly what you are doing/seeing
[05:40]  * raylu wants screenshots of enlightenment
[05:41] <fryguy> raylu: just go to the website
[05:41] <raylu> nevermind
[05:41] <tiyowan> justizin: Ok, maybe I'm confused. You're referring to 32-bit Ubuntu installation right?
[05:41] <justizin> you assume i'm talking about a base install.. the linux-iimage-* packages say they are 32/64-bit
[05:41] <raylu> the little banner-sized images are screenies
[05:41] <onetinsoldier> Eterm rockzzz!
[05:41] <gizmo> my new profile is disable..
[05:41] <scunizi> justizin, you're overlooking there are two iso's.. one 32 bit and one 64 bit
[05:41] <tiyowan> Oh dear.
[05:41] <fde> justizin: its amd64 not x86_64 with Ubuntu (and Debian) naming
[05:41] <kevdog> Its lightweight if you like that
[05:41] <fryguy> justizin: paste output of uname -a
[05:41] <tiyowan> !64
[05:41] <justizin> fde: that's certainly odd, and it's not what the packages say..
[05:41] <lucent> is it uname -a time?
[05:42] <justizin> you should talk to linux-image-* maintainer
[05:42] <justizin> if x86_64 shouldn't be used ;)
[05:42] <eseven73> bah now you guys making me want to log into enlightenment, LOL thanks a lot :P   im on xubuntu right now, Xfce ftw
[05:42] <fryguy> fde: your base system install is either x86 or x86_64.  Whatever system you've installed you can't change it without doing a full reinstall.  Some/most packages work the same on both architectures
[05:42] <tiyowan> JustinRyan: Buddy, go to the Ubuntu website and check the iso files. There's one for 32 bit. And one for 64 bit. Get the 64 bit one and reinstall.
[05:42] <kevdog> Just install e17 from script (svn) -- takes maybe like 10-15 minutes to compile -- reboot -- there you go!
[05:42] <gizmo> how to open my new profile?
[05:43] <eseven73> so many window managers, so little time to play wit them all :)
[05:43] <lucent> uh, profile?
[05:43] <tiyowan> gizmo: Right click on terminal, Profiles -> <yourprofile>
[05:43] <lucent> gizmo: what profile?
[05:43] <onetinsoldier> eseven73: lol.. i like all the nice and pretty window managers. including xfce4 and kde, icewm is ok by me too
[05:43] <fde> fryguy: depends how you define "full reinstall"... you can switch arch via debootstrap... I wasn't the one with the question though, either way
[05:43] <gizmo> terminal
[05:43] <gizmo> my new profile : iam@gizmo.com
[05:43] <kevdog> I want to play with more managers -- need a next victim
[05:43] <fryguy> onetinsoldier: eh, window decorations are a waste of screen space
[05:44] <fryguy> kevdog: just use xmonad
[05:44] <eseven73> onetinsoldier: i think i tried icewm last night but couldnt figure out how to start anything, there were no menus/icons at all
[05:44] <kevdog> xmonad?  never heard of that one
[05:44] <gizmo> ok2
[05:44] <gizmo> i got it already
[05:44] <gizmo> heheh sorry maybe im to lazy..
[05:44] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: eye-candy is good candy :-P
[05:44] <gizmo> :p
[05:44] <tiyowan> Off-topic, but how's enlightenment?
[05:44] <lucent> kevdog: openbox, ratpoison, kwm, compiz-fusion, metacity
[05:44] <fryguy> onetinsoldier: i disagree
[05:45] <eseven73> tiyowan: its nice, but im a noob with it so i cant really say much more than that
[05:45] <onetinsoldier> eseven73: whaa? it has a panel/start menu at the bottom
[05:45] <lucent> kevdog: you can tweak metacity a bit
[05:45] <spree> I am trying to print, USB HP psc 1210, and when I try to print a test page it fails, I do the diagnose problem dialog and it says "The printer's temporary state message is: 'Cannot create temporary file'
[05:45] <kevdog> compiz-fusion???
[05:45] <spree> this sounds like a permissions issue but i don't know where to look
[05:45] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: i understand. but we have to agree to disagree here. ;-)
[05:45] <eseven73> onetinsoldier: ok maybe it was another wm than ice let me check one sec
[05:45] <raylu> kevdog: fluxbox?
[05:45] <fryguy> metacity is a terrible window manager :/
[05:45] <lucent> kevdog: I change the layout of my window title bar icons such that minimize is the left most (like windowmaker)
[05:45] <tiyowan> eseven73: Thanks. I wanted to install KDE, but I heard that KDE 3 isn't supported on Ubuntu, and people find v4 a bit counter-intuitive.
[05:45] <kevdog> seems like my old piece of junk test computer runs about 100 times faster with e17 than metacity
[05:46] <aperson> what would be the easiest (built in?) way to monitor the up/down speed of eth0 in a terminal?
[05:46] <scunizi> tiyowan, vs4 looks good. and not bad navigating it.
[05:46] <tiyowan> aperson: System Monitor?
[05:46] <eseven73> tiyowan: yeah, i like KDE but its a bit too heavy for me, im kinda a minimalistic type
[05:46] <lucent> spree: IMO I would scour google and look to see who else has your troubles, and then use their solution
[05:46] <onetinsoldier> aperson: install iptraf is one
[05:46] <tiyowan> eseven73: Same here.
[05:46] <raylu> eseven73: exactly. window managers are for noobies
[05:47] <raylu> eseven73: just use X
[05:47] <lucent> spree: it's common for printing issues to get solved and documented on google-accessible forums
[05:47] <tiyowan> scunizi: Thanks for the tip.
[05:47] <kevdog> aperson:  Ive used conky but must be terminal app
[05:47] <spree> lucent, that's not really helping, I have looked at google, about 20 pages so far.
[05:47] <lucent> spree: hmph... which driver is it using?
[05:47] <aperson> kevdog: I'll look into that, thanks
[05:47] <spree> lucent, Gee, I don't know, how do I find out?
[05:47] <aperson> or err
[05:47] <aperson> I mean onetinsoldier
[05:47] <tiyowan> aperson: Go to System -> Administration -> System Monitor, and click on the Network History tab.
[05:47] <kevdog> Just use X ----> crazy -- old unix days -- hated those
[05:47] <lucent> spree: i.e. LaserJet 1020 uses like pclmono or something
[05:48]  * aperson needs to be able to do this over ssh
[05:48] <lucent> spree: linuxprinting.org
[05:48] <jordo2323> rdpress
[05:48] <eseven73> onetinsoldier: it wasnt icewm it was dwm, i cant figure out how to start any apps with dwm, no menu/icons nothing :/
[05:48] <tiyowan> aperson: But if you want comprehensive system monitoring, I'd recommend conky. Highly customizable. :)
[05:48] <spree> lucent, Pretend I have no idea how to answer your question. Because I don't.
[05:48] <onetinsoldier> aperson: yeah.. iptraf.. it used ncurses(terminal app)
[05:48] <onetinsoldier> uses*
[05:48] <lucent> spree: can you guess what linuxprinting.org is?
[05:48] <lucent> spree: go there ;P
[05:48] <fryguy> eseven73: there is a keybinding to run a command called menu.  Take a look at config.h to see settings.  also take a look at the documentation on suckless
[05:48] <raylu> lucent: not a pokemon?
[05:48] <fryguy> eseven73: or just run a better tiling wm, like xmonad
[05:48] <lucent> raylu: NOT A POKemon... oh.  sorry
[05:49] <hitman1985> hi at all, what could be my issue, i downloaded desktop ppc image from 8.10 intrepid ibex and i m trying to boot it on a ibook g4 but no boot success whatever i try :( anyone got an idea ?
[05:49] <eseven73> fryguy: ok ty
[05:49] <fryguy> eseven73: also, alt-shift-enter should spawn a terminal
[05:49] <kevdog> how does a tiling window manager look different than stacking manager?
[05:49] <fryguy> kevdog: windows don't stack by default, and they are automatically laid out for you to maximize screen space
[05:49] <eseven73> i dont care for tiling wm's though
[05:49] <kevdog> What if you have like 10 windows open?
[05:50] <fryguy> kevdog: so then you have 10 windows open, what's the problem?
[05:50] <spree> lucent, Tell you what, you are being extraordinarily unhelpful. Do you know why it's saying it can't create the temporary file? Do you know where the temporary files are placed? I bet it's a permissions issue.
[05:50] <raylu> fryguy: the obvious? they are smalle?
[05:50] <tiyowan> Put 'em in different workspaces.
[05:50] <raylu> *small
[05:50] <kevdog> 10 windows layed out all in one screen?
[05:50] <darcy> can you install eclipse without gcj ? i've got sun-java already but `apt-get install eclipse
[05:50] <fryguy> raylu: so then switch to a different layout algorithm, group them with tags, or group them on workspaces
[05:50] <tiyowan> kevdog: Put 'em in different workspaces.
[05:50] <darcy> sorry.. `apt-get install eclipse' adds like 40 new gcj packages
[05:50] <fryguy> raylu: you run into the same issues having 10 windows open at once on a floating wm, it's just easier to manage in a tiling wm
[05:50] <spree> lucent, or if you're going to refer me to top level websites please do me a favor and place me on ignore because I really don't need all of that from you. Thanks.
[05:51] <kevdog> You guys actually use different workspaces?
[05:51] <tiyowan> spree: What seems to be the problem?
[05:51] <lucent> spree: keep going, I'm listening
[05:51] <fryguy> kevdog: of course
[05:51] <tiyowan> kevdog: I shudder when I boot into Windows. Workspaces are a godsend.
[05:51] <aperson> iptraf works well
[05:51] <spree> lucent, I asked you a direct question. Do you know where the temporary files are created? (yes/no)
[05:51] <kevdog> I keep forgetting whats on different workspaces
[05:51] <hcMyth> Why does ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso have amd in the name? I'm looking for ubuntu to work on a intel core 2 quad... what's up with that? Thanks.
[05:51] <aperson> thanks all who answered
[05:52] <lucent> spree: 42.
[05:52] <fryguy> using a tiling wm is a lot like switching from windows to linux, you have to take a bit of time to learn/understand the differences and change your workflow a bit, and it leads to things being a lot easier
[05:52] <spree> lucent you are now on my ignore list.
[05:52] <fryguy> hcMyth: amd64 is the term ubuntu uses for the 64-bit instruction set on top of x86 (because they came out with it first). it's what you want if you want x86_64 for your intel
[05:52] <tiyowan> hcMyth: The 64-bit architecture was pioneered most successfully by AMD. :-)
[05:52] <spree> I am trying to print, USB HP psc 1210, and when I try to print a test page it fails, I do the diagnose problem dialog and it says "The printer's temporary state message is: 'Cannot create temporary file'
[05:53] <hcMyth> thanks! :D
[05:53] <tiyowan> hcMyth: Unlike Intel's Itanium project, which was laughable.
[05:53] <raylu> fryguy: so what wm do you recommend/use?
[05:53] <JHalstead> Does 8.10 have enough on the live CD to read a windows ntfs partition?  I need to copy files from a dying windows system for a friend tomorrow and I don't have windows so I don't know what exactly I'll need.  any information on this would be greatly appreciated.
[05:53] <lucent> that was awesome.  guy doesn't want my help :P
[05:53] <fryguy> raylu: i use xmonad
[05:53] <kevdog> Best part about workspaces was switching between them with the Compiz cube when I used to use that -- got old quick however
[05:53] <hitman1985> hi at all, what could be my issue, i downloaded desktop ppc image from 8.10 intrepid ibex and i m trying to boot it on a ibook g4 but no boot success whatever i try :( anyone got an idea ?
[05:53] <anand> anand
[05:53] <scunizi> spree, have you checked hp's site for the right driver reference? they might even have a link to the correct linux driver.
[05:53] <lucent> kevdog: I'm a big fan of middle-mouse-wheel scroll on desktop activating the desktop switch ;)
[05:53] <eseven73> kevdog: yeah thats the only time i ever used mulitple workspaces
[05:53] <mib_nqw1e3> Hey guys, I ran an update about a week ago and lost my internet connection before finishing, so it installed some of the updates but not all of them. I then continued to use the computer for a while, left, and when I came back the screen was black, moved the mouse around and typed a bit thinking it had went to sleep, odd purple stuff showed up at the top of the screen and it was unresponsive. I tried terminating the X s
[05:53] <lucent> mib_nqw1e3: ouch :/
[05:53] <tiyowan> spree: Okay. I'm assuming this printer works with a windows box right?
[05:54] <mib_nqw1e3> Now it will not start up and grub is throwing an error
[05:54] <spree> scunizi, That doesn't seem to be the problem, it seems to be a permissions issue
[05:54] <hitman1985> JHalstead, yes it does it will show it as hdd size... media
[05:54] <mib_nqw1e3> Any clue how I go about recovering things?
[05:54] <anand> dudes... i'm new here!
[05:54] <chilli0> hi all
[05:54] <Arrowhead212002> so has anyone ever had the issue of the screen saver causing the computer to freeze
[05:54] <spree> it's got the right driver, it recognized it immediately and it's the exact model
[05:54] <Brian88> hi, I am running a Wubi installation of 8.04, can I use the 8.10 Cd to upgrade ?
[05:54] <onetinsoldier> mib_975o21: soundslike a dying hard drive or some other hardware issue
[05:54] <anand> desperately seeking your help
[05:54] <chilli0> im having internet issues
[05:54] <chilli0> im using wireless atm
[05:54] <fryguy> Arrowhead212002: i have on a machine that has a poor graphics card
[05:54] <TriBeCa99> ok so now i'm having trouble creating a RAID10 array with mdadm. pretty sure it's not an unplugged cable this time
[05:54] <chilli0> but when i try for lan it doesnt work
[05:54] <fryguy> anand: nobody can help you until you ask a question
[05:55] <tiyowan> TriBeCa99: :D
[05:55] <lucent> mib_nqw1e3: your data is probably okay if hardware is okay
[05:55] <anand> i have recently switched from windows to ubuntu 8.04 LTS
[05:55] <lucent> mib_nqw1e3: question is, is your hardware okay?
[05:55] <spree> tiyowan, yes, it works with a windows box, yes it's the right driver. Where are the temporary files stored? I'll bet the directory has the wrong permissions
[05:55] <chilli0> and i can get into the router but not out of the router
[05:55] <mib_nqw1e3> My "files" are backed up but I have tons of programs that I custom compiled or had to make changes to the config files etc. that are not backed up, and I really don't want to have to repeat all that work
[05:55] <hitman1985> is there a seperate channel for ppc support ?
[05:55] <anand> and i've fallen in love with this...
[05:55] <chilli0> any on know what the problem?
[05:55] <Arrowhead212002> well that does reminnd me now that i have yet to install the drivers for my video card
[05:55] <hitman1985> cuz noone seems to have a clue of the prob....?
[05:55] <kevdog> plug in the network cable
[05:55] <raylu> XD
[05:55] <fryguy> chilli0: does /etc/resolv.conf have anything in it?
[05:55] <TriBeCa99> i'm running: mdadm /dev/md1 -C --raid-devices=4 --level=10 missing /dev/sdc1 missing /dev/sdd1
[05:55] <joljam> i am having problems with connecting a usb phone
[05:55] <mib_nqw1e3> lucent: I can only assume so, no errors from my bios, no drive noises etc
[05:56] <kevdog> resolv.conf just controls your dns server addresses
[05:56] <fryguy> TriBeCa99: don't think you can use mdadm to find 2 missing disks
[05:56] <anand> however, there's only one application that doesn't run here.. once that happens, I can just delete windows for good and start using ubuntu full time
[05:56] <lucent> mib_nqw1e3: good, no spoon and fork noises???
[05:56]  * lucent shivers
[05:56] <JHalstead> hitman1985: thanks that's what I was thinking/hoping now I get to sleep easy tonight knowing tomorrow I get to rescue a friend from windows, LOL  Perhaps I can install 8.10 and she'll be happy using it, we will see.
[05:56] <tiyowan> spree: Lemme search the forums for you. I don't know about the temp. files. Normally stored in /tmp and /var/spool I think, but better to check first.
[05:56] <joljam> the device is not being identified
[05:56] <fryguy> kevdog: that it does, and he can't connect to things on the internet, which leads me to believe it might be the problem
[05:56] <TriBeCa99> fryguy: i'm trying to create a degraded array
[05:56] <anand> i am told that it'll run through wine but that's not happening
[05:56] <TriBeCa99> it says in the man page to use the word missing in place of the device
[05:56] <mib_nqw1e3> lucent: nope, just the normal whir of the fans
[05:56] <TriBeCa99> and i was advised to do that earlier as well
[05:56] <chilli0> yes fryguy
[05:56] <chilli0> it has
[05:56] <chilli0> # Generated by NetworkManager
[05:56] <chilli0> domain BigPond
[05:56] <chilli0> search BigPond
[05:56] <chilli0> nameserver 10.0.0.254
[05:56] <FloodBot3> chilli0: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:56] <kevdog> You could test that theory by just connecting to an ip address
[05:56] <lucent> mib_nqw1e3: I suggest booting a LiveCD and um..  shoot I don't know, making a copy of your home directory
[05:56] <fryguy> anand: feel free to ask a question at any time...
[05:57] <chilli0> my bad
[05:57] <chilli0> i didnt mean to flood
[05:57] <hitman1985> JHalstead, just go easy and run it for the first backup steps of live boot no install, to ensure that all your files are available...
[05:57] <lucent> mib_nqw1e3: in theory if your home directory is on its own partition you can simply install again and mount it as home, no format
[05:57] <fryguy> chilli0: no idea about configuring bigpond
[05:57] <chilli0> its not even big pond
[05:57] <lucent> mib_nqw1e3: otherwise you'll want to shuffle that data somewhere else
[05:57] <kevdog> How can I flood?
[05:57] <kevdog> :)
[05:57] <apathadeus> you pour a bucket of water over your computer
[05:57] <spree> tiyowan, Well this is interesting, when I cd to /var/spool/cups it says permission denied when i try to do a ls -la as my normal user
[05:57] <joljam> someone please help me
[05:58] <anand> fryguy: i need to run an exe file from ubuntu using wine....
[05:58] <mib_nqw1e3> lucent: thats the thing, the stuff I really need is scattered in /etc /sbin /bin etc my home dir is backed up
[05:58] <raylu> mib_nqw1e3: also, fsck
[05:58] <spree> joljam, ask the question, and ask the channel.
[05:58] <fryguy> anand: so then do that
[05:58] <joljam> how can i detect my usb drive
[05:58] <lucent> chilli0: flood is network IRC setting, excessive 6 lines of text quickly... don't do more than 3 in a row and you're okay
[05:58] <lucent> mib_nqw1e3: oh.   you're one of THOSE people huh :P
[05:58] <anand> when i right click on the exe file and say open using other application and choose wine, nothing happens
[05:58] <mib_nqw1e3> I want my programs not my "files"
[05:58] <lucent> mib_nqw1e3: privmsg me I will share my wisdom
[05:58] <raylu> anand: run it in a terminal
[05:58] <kevdog> can I try that technique?
[05:58] <joljam> I have connected my usb phone and its not being detected at all
[05:58] <mib_nqw1e3> thanks :)
[05:59] <tiyowan> spree: No luck on the forums. Hmmm....
[05:59] <anand> ok, i've opened the terminal
[05:59] <mahfouz> had problems like this as wel
[05:59] <spree> lucent, FYI, I didn't really /ignore you but since I told you I did, I have seen you systematically troll one after another person in here as you were trying to on me.
[05:59] <CntrySheepFahker> Does anyone know what the super key refers to in compiz?
[05:59] <anand> what do i type?
[05:59] <joljam> i just installed inrepid today
[05:59] <lucent> "USB PHONE" two things I never thought to hear in a commercial product
[05:59] <CntrySheepFahker> I can't figure out which key it is
[05:59] <JHalstead> hitman1985: oh of course.  I'll make sure all data is properly backed up before jumping to far.  At this point data recovery and back up is the main priority.  Converting another windows system will just be icing on the cake if possible.
[05:59] <fryguy> anand: change to the directory that has the program that you want to run, and type "wine <nameofprogram>"
[05:59] <spree> lucent, why don't you find somewhere else to harass people
[05:59] <joljam> its a magic jack and I used to use it with ubuntu LTS
[05:59] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: winkey, usually
[05:59] <lucent> spree: who are you talking to?
[06:00] <joljam> with ekiga
[06:00] <raylu> CntrySheepFahker: xmodmap --help (-pk, i think) may help
[06:00] <spree> lucent, I am speaking to you, troll.
[06:00] <CntrySheepFahker> Raylu: let me try winkey
[06:00] <fryguy> CntrySheepFahker: it's the windows key
[06:00] <fryguy> CntrySheepFahker: xmodmap will list all active modifiers
[06:00] <darkfuzion> wazzzup
[06:00] <onetinsoldier> darkfuzion: howdy
[06:00] <anand> dude.. i've installed ubuntu only yesterday.. am a total novice.. i'd really appreciate if you told me the commands to go to the directory
[06:00] <mahfouz> flame wars and the forum is already pretty loaded
[06:00] <mahfouz> hmm
[06:00] <kevdog> anand
[06:00] <hitman1985> JHalstead, yeah, i convinced about 10 ppl to give it a shot so far with 8.04 still and i m updating all the systems as i visit my firends :)
[06:00] <fryguy> anand: first of all, what program are you trying to run with wine
[06:01] <darkfuzion> hey one
[06:01] <kevdog> Here cd <directory name>
[06:01] <tiyowan> spree: Appears to be a permission problem all right. Try creating a new user and assigning printing privileges to that user from System -> Administration -> Users and Groups?
[06:01] <kevdog> Like cd bin
[06:01] <kevdog> cd ~
[06:01] <n2diy> anybody familiar with adding syntac highlighting to gedit?
[06:01] <anand> it's a stock market trading terminal
[06:01] <raylu> !who | anand
[06:01] <spree> tiyowan, i'll give that a shot
[06:01] <fryguy> anand: and where is it located on your computer
[06:01] <lucent> spree: off topic any?   :)  good luck on your printing issue.
[06:01] <anand> ubottu: noted. thanks
[06:01] <mib_nqw1e3> n2diy: I am pretty sure it is built in.
[06:01] <CntrySheepFahker> raylu: Thx bro
[06:01] <CntrySheepFahker> raylu: u was right :D, cheers
[06:02] <mib_nqw1e3> n2diy: At least I don't remember ever having to set it up
[06:02] <Jordan_U> anand, If you want, you can also type "cd " then drag the directory into the terminal and it's path will be entered, then hit enter
[06:02] <tiyowan> spree: Sorry I can't be of more help, but do try that suggestion.
[06:02] <n2diy> mib_975o21, I want to add an pbasic
[06:02] <anand> fryguy: it's on the C: drive of my computer which is for windows...
[06:02] <CntrySheepFahker> going to beddio now.. Laterz
[06:02] <onetinsoldier> CntrySheepFahker: what happened? it's fixed? how?
[06:02] <anand> fryguy: should i copy the installable file on ubuntu?
[06:02] <fryguy> anand: yes
[06:02] <raylu> n2diy: ...pbasic...?
[06:02] <anand> fryguy: ok. hang on. i'll do that and get back to you
[06:03] <kevdog> Wine can not run all exe
[06:03] <wartalker> my emacs start failed, No fonts match `Consolas-11', how can i do
[06:03] <kevdog> Just an FYI
[06:03] <n2diy> raylu, yes, for working with  the Basic Stamps
[06:03] <fryguy> wartalker: #emacs
[06:03] <raylu> wartalker: install consolas or move your .emacs
[06:03] <joljam> lucent were u able to figure anything out about my question
[06:03] <JHalstead> hitman1985:  Well this friend just uses the computer she doesn't understand OS's or anything more than wanting to view pictures and listen to music so this should be easy.  Hell it's a windows 2000 system for goodness sakes.  But I'm out it's late...
[06:04] <hitman1985> JHalstead, gn8
[06:04] <mib_nqw1e3> http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=749942 should be everything you need
[06:04] <anand> fryguy: ok.. done that
[06:04] <wartalker> raylu: i have rm .emacs
[06:04] <fryguy> anand: now run that installer with wine
[06:04] <Jordan_U> anand, Just so you don't have false expectations, wine can't run all windows programs, and some that it can run require additional configuration steps ( which you can usually find at the appdb page for that program )
[06:04] <spree> joljam, i wouldn't be expecting anything useful from lucent
[06:04] <anand> fryguy: ok
[06:04] <kevdog> anand: What are you trying to run -- not everything will work
[06:04] <fryguy> kevdog: we know this, you already said it, and he already said what he's trying to run
[06:04] <raylu> wartalker: then perhaps its set in /etc/emacs or similar. you could try installing consolas...
[06:05] <anand> jordan_U & kevdog: well dudes, i'll try  my luck
[06:05] <raylu> wartalker: there may also be a console option to set the font
[06:05] <\\`oot> Hey, what's the apt-cache command you guys always use to "check" whether something is installed or not?
[06:05] <raylu> wartalker: but i'm in #emacs territory now :P
[06:05] <kevdog> Just my personal opinion -- wine stinks -- just my opinion
[06:05] <raylu> \\`oot: dpkg -l?
[06:05] <fryguy> \\`oot: dpkg --get-selections | grep
[06:05] <Slart> \\`oot: apt-get policy?
[06:05] <\\`oot> uhmm... yea
[06:05] <lucent> joljam: I haven't thought about it, actually, it should be covered under snd-usb-audio kernel module and if it's not, there's either a problem where it's not supported, there's a malfunctioning USB hub, or ehci-hcd is interfering (try sudo rmmod ehci-hcd) to remove usb2.0 support
[06:05] <\\`oot> heh
[06:05] <anand> kevdog, jordan_U, fryguy: it's opened... let's see it install
[06:05] <tiyowan> \\`oot: dpkg -l | grep <name> ?
[06:05] <anand> fryguy: honestly, i'm mighty excited to be shifting from windows....
[06:06] <kevdog> apitude search <package_name>
[06:06] <\\`oot> ahh, yes
[06:06] <\\`oot> thank you
[06:06] <kevdog> sorry it was aptitude search <package_name>
[06:06] <raylu> tiyowan beats me. you can have kevdog's first-born daughter
[06:06] <anand> fryguy: ok. it's installed.. now what
[06:06] <Slart> \\`oot: oops.. I means apt-cache policy <packagename>
[06:06] <fryguy> anand: it installed somewhere in ~/.wine/c_drive most likely, go find it in there and run it
[06:07] <Acedip> is there a way to see at what time a particular command was run ??
[06:07] <\\`oot> Slart: Perfect, exactly what I needed, thank you
[06:07] <\\`oot> what does the policy option mean?
[06:07] <tiyowan> raylu: I'm quite all right, thanks. :)
[06:07] <n2diy> anybody familiar with adding syntac highlighting to gedit?
[06:07] <Slart> \\`oot: I have no idea.. doesn't make sense to me... but the output is nice =)
[06:07] <raylu> Acedip: that depends on the command. usually, no
[06:08] <\\`oot> Slart: Yes, thanks again
[06:08] <fryguy> Acedip: no, if it's still running 'w' might give you information about it that you can deduce a start_time
[06:08] <\\`oot> w00t to you sir
[06:08] <Slart> Acedip: I think sudo commands might be logged somewhere.. no sure though
[06:08] <ScottG> hey im really new to ubuntu and im just trying to get my driver for my graphics card working. I went to "System > Administration > Hardware Drivers" and then tried to activate it but it doesnt seem to do anything
[06:08] <anand> fryguy: I see it has installed on my desktop but nothing
[06:08] <raylu> Slart: policies control when to update what packages and how to resolve certain kinds of dependencies
[06:09] <tiyowan> ScottG: Did you restart your system after clicking Activate?
[06:09] <raylu> tiyowan: only X
[06:09] <ScottG> A window pops up saying "Downloading and installing drivers" but then it just goes away after half a second
[06:09] <raylu> Slart: (i think)
[06:09] <anand> fryguy: now should i try it through the terminal?
[06:09] <fryguy> anand: i guess
[06:09] <Slart> raylu: ah.. that does make a little sense.. apt!.. you're forgiven.. =)
[06:09] <ScottG> tiyowan: doesnt seem like it did anything in the first place
[06:09] <Jordan_U> Acedip, If you ran the command yourself you may be able to get an estimate by looking at how far back it is in your history relative to other commands you ran
[06:09] <\\`oot> this must be a bug... when I mount a samba share it puts a shortcut on my desktop - but after a while if I try to double-click it, I get this error "there is no application installed for this file type"
[06:10] <tiyowan> ScottG: What video card do you have?
[06:10] <n2diy> anand, yes, the terminal is more reliable than a GUI
[06:10] <\\`oot> how do you remove mount-points from your desktop?
[06:10] <arktvrvs> is there anyway to speed up the console, for example if i mistype something it sits there and searches through packages..?
[06:10] <raylu> !icons | \\`oot
[06:10] <kevdog> policy [ pkg(s) ]
[06:10] <kevdog>     policy is ment to help debug issues relating to the preferences file. With no arguments it will print out the priorities of each source. Otherwise it prints out detailed information about the priority selection of the named package.
[06:10] <fryguy> arktvrvs: hit ctrl-c to cancel the current running command
[06:10] <anand> n2diy: what's the exact command?
[06:10] <tiyowan> raylu: Go to know.
[06:10] <tiyowan> raylu: er, good to know.
[06:10] <ScottG> tiyowan: 256MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450
[06:10] <arktvrvs> i know how to break
[06:11] <anand> n2diy: if the file is on my desktop?
[06:11] <arktvrvs> i think i should be able to disable that functionality though, as i find it quite annoying
[06:11] <fryguy> arktvrvs: disable what functionality
[06:11] <onetinsoldier> Acedip: i saw a utility for that the other day, called rootsh
[06:11] <arktvrvs> when i mistype a command it sits there and searches through packages to suggest one for me to install to have the command available
[06:12] <Jordan_U> arktvrvs, Yes, you can disable command not found magic, let me look at how though
[06:12] <tiyowan> ScottG: You could try running "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and checking whether you see flgxr somewhere.
[06:12] <ScottG> tiyowan: just restarted with no luck
[06:12] <tiyowan> ScottG: That means you're using the ATI drivers.
[06:12] <anand> HOW DO I SEARCH FOR A PROGRAMME IN THE TREMINAL?
[06:12] <n2diy> Anand, open a terminal, and enter your commands there.
[06:12] <giacomo> hello!
[06:12] <arktvrvs> if i type 'doobie' for example, it sits there for 5 seconds hunting for the command, not only in $PATH but in the apt-cache
[06:12] <fryguy> anand: apt-cache search programname
[06:12] <tiyowan> !caps | anand
[06:12] <anand> ubottu: sorry
[06:12] <wt> Is there a way to do the equivalent of "apt-cache search <word1> <word2>" with aptitude's search functionality?
[06:12] <kevdog> sudo apt-cache search <package-name>
[06:13] <Jordan_U> arktvrvs, You can just remove the package "command-not-found"
[06:13] <fryguy> kevdog: don't sudo that
[06:13] <JulioNeto> hi all
[06:13] <arktvrvs> ah, excellent
[06:13] <kevdog> fryguy: Is there a reason not to?
[06:13] <arktvrvs> thank you, Jordan_U
[06:13] <raylu> kevdog: less sudo = more win
[06:13] <fryguy> kevdog: running things as root is bad
[06:13] <Jordan_U> arktvrvs, np
[06:13] <onetinsoldier> anand: type in a letter.. the press Tab on your keyboard... that'll introduce you to come commands
[06:13] <onetinsoldier> some*
[06:14] <raylu> onetinsoldier: you're talking to someone who wants to wine a program
[06:14] <n2diy> come commands?
[06:14] <ScottG> tiyowan: i dont see flgxr anywhere
[06:14] <kevdog> fryguy: Ive heard that argument a million times -- bs
[06:14] <onetinsoldier> raylu: oh, ok.  i only saw his caps message
[06:14] <JulioNeto> I'm trying to use my 3G modem on Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex, but when I plug it on the USB port, nothing happen. When I run lsusb it isn't there. What should I do?
[06:14] <Mulder> hum. pidgin crashes. the ubuntu debug program collates a report and starts uploading then errors out and says it cannot upload the report. what gives
[06:14] <anand> onetinsoldier: this is so cool, mate. thanks!
[06:14] <raylu> kevdog: there's no need for it to have root permissions
[06:14] <onetinsoldier> anand: you're welcome :-)
[06:14] <fryguy> kevdog: lol.  you should take some time to review linux system architecture before just going ahead and claiming bs with nothing to support your opinion
[06:15] <kevdog> raylu: I can buy that argument
[06:15] <tiyowan> Running stuff willy-nilly as root is decidedly bad.
[06:15] <Slart> arktvrvs: there is a package for the application that does all that searching.. you could try removing that
[06:15] <raylu> kevdog: that was the same thing, just reworded, in fryguy's opinion
[06:15] <darkfuzion> whats the limititation on wine???
[06:15] <hcMyth> one glass a day :)
[06:15] <raylu> darkfuzion: it doesn't work. a lot
[06:15] <darkfuzion> lol
[06:15] <\\`oot> how do I set my "default" file-browser view to "List @ 33%"??
[06:16] <n2diy> tiyowan, no its not, if it takes out a Win partition?
[06:16] <anand> onetinsoldier: can i send you the outcome I got when I ran the search?
[06:16] <darkfuzion> ahhh lol
[06:16] <darkfuzion> good thing for partitions right lol
[06:16] <anand> onetinesoldier: 'cause I can't make head nor tail of what I'm seeing
[06:16] <kevdog> fryguy: been using linux a long time --  this don't do sudo crap running rampant in the ubuntu forums -- agree with it in that you can trash your system really easy -- however if you have used linux/unix for a while -- security risk is overblown
[06:16] <ScottG> well w/e i g2g
[06:16] <tiyowan> ScottG: Okay, a rather stupid question. But you *are* connected to the net when you go to System -> Admin. -> Hardware Drivers right?
[06:16] <virgo1143> Flips a coin: TAILS
[06:16] <onetinsoldier> anand: i don't really know that i'm interested in seeing it. but oh, ok
[06:16] <tiyowan> n2diy: ?
[06:16] <darkfuzion> installing wine to test out
[06:16] <fryguy> kevdog: yes, and the vast majority of ubuntu users don't understand that, and just run everything as sudo when something doesn't work
[06:17] <fryguy> kevdog: ubuntu users aren't typical advanced users
[06:17] <Jordan_U> darkfuzion, Any programs that rely on libraries working a certain way that wine hasn't implemented or hasn't implemented to work exactly the same way yet will not work
[06:17] <kevdog> fryguy: Agreed!
[06:17] <virgo1143> you got that right fryguy
[06:17] <fryguy> kevdog: so then your position on the situation is wrong based on the demographic we are dealing with
[06:17] <lucent> anand: there's less than 50 commands that most daily *nix users learn...  everyone learns a DIFFERENT set of commands though, and yet we all do the same thing
[06:17] <kevdog> Thats why I like them -- and don't like them
[06:17] <lucent> :)
[06:17] <n2diy> tiyowan, run willy nilly as root, lose your Win partition? Oh well.
[06:17] <tiyowan> kevdog: The very fact that you've been using linux for a long time makes you understand. Most people would end up doing something stupid as root.
[06:17] <giacomo> hey guys I've compiled the kernel without initramfs, but now I need a script into /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts to run anyway, how can I archive this?
[06:17] <ScottG> tiyowan: yes
[06:17] <anand> onetinsoldier: well, i'm sorry but i really don't know where else to go to
[06:17] <Arrowhead212002> how do i used my webcam in a chat? using pidgon
[06:17] <onetinsoldier> anand: ok
[06:17] <Terralthra> Arrowhead - you don't
[06:17] <Terralthra> Pidgin does not support video chat.
[06:18] <Arrowhead212002> thats dumb lol
[06:18] <anand> sudo apt-cache search wine
[06:18] <anand> tellico - collection manager for books, videos, music
[06:18] <anand> tellico-data - collection manager for books, videos, music [data]
[06:18] <anand> unmass - Extract game archive files
[06:18] <anand> winefish - LaTeX Editor based on Bluefish
[06:18] <anand> libdscaler - Video deinterlacer plugins from the DScaler project
[06:18] <FloodBot3> anand: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:18] <lucent> giacomo: I might be wrong, but update-initramfs have something to do with it?
[06:18] <Arrowhead212002> what does
[06:18] <kevdog> Arrowhead212002: Pidgin can't do video
[06:18] <virgo1143> I wish it did
[06:18] <Terralthra> What protocol, Arrowhead212002?
[06:18] <JulioNeto> I have pluged my 3G modem on the USB port, but the system don't recognize it (lsusb doesn't show me anything) any idea?
[06:18] <giacomo> lucent, probably, because I don't have any initramfs at all
[06:18] <fryguy> anand: apt-get installw ine
[06:18] <Terralthra> If it's Yahoo, you want GyacheI
[06:18] <fryguy> anand: apt-get install wine
[06:18] <tiyowan> ScottG: Ok hang on.
[06:18] <Arrowhead212002> 8.04
[06:18] <Arrowhead212002> and aim
[06:18] <ScottG> tiyowan: ok
[06:18] <Terralthra> AIM? You're SOL
[06:18] <kevdog> google chat is great
[06:18] <overrider> what is the better name for a general it-company, if i can only choose between those two: packetfox or lemontek ? thks
[06:18] <lucent> Arrowhead212002: dare I mention it, but uh... closed program called skype works with a little elbow grease, no I won't tell you and it's not supported, search google please :)
[06:18] <PokerFacePenguin> Arrowhead212002: ekiga
[06:19] <Terralthra> Ekiga crossinterfaces with AIM?
[06:19] <Arrowhead212002> cool!
[06:19] <raylu> JulioNeto: "sudo dmesg | tail" may provide insight
[06:19] <anand> fryguy: not working
[06:19] <fryguy> !work
[06:19] <anand> fryguy: am getting an error message
[06:19] <lucent> ekiga?  sorry, I've used ekiga, it's a great piece of software but I won't go recommending it to average users
[06:19] <lucent> too much firewall hole poking and such
[06:19] <Terralthra> I agree with Lucent
[06:19] <kevdog> Arrowhead212002: google chat!
[06:20] <Jordan_U> anand, fryguy You need a sudo before that so that it runs as root, i.e. "sudo apt-get install wine"
[06:20] <Arrowhead212002> hey i may be avegrage but ill never learn if i dont give it a shot
[06:20] <kevdog> I love sudo
[06:20] <lucent> kevdog: did I miss the news, was google video chat released for *nix?
[06:20] <fryguy> i hate sudo
[06:20]  * lucent cheers fryguy 
[06:20] <ScottG> tiyowan: sorry i seriously have to go. thanks for the help though
[06:20] <tiyowan> ScottG: Hmm. According to the forums, that card should work okay.
[06:20] <virgo1143> hate is such a strong word
[06:20] <fryguy> virgo1143: it is
[06:20] <n2diy> Arrowhead212002, go for it.
[06:20] <fryguy> virgo1143: and i hate sudo
[06:20] <virgo1143> lol
[06:20] <Arrowhead212002> lol
[06:21] <JulioNeto> raylu, [ 1870.857407] usb-storage: device ignored
[06:21] <lucent> I remember the good old days of 'su'
[06:21] <anand> fryguy: installed wine alright but it's still not running, the file...
[06:21] <JulioNeto> 0.o
[06:21] <clearzen> I'm having serious issues with my nvidia driver after a upgrade from 8.04. at first it would not initialize the nvidia driver at all but then I added vmalloc=256MB as a kernel command so now it shows that it does in fact load. However it will not actually use the driver for X. any Ideas?
[06:21] <Terralthra> clearzen: what card?
[06:21] <raylu> lucent: you can still have it...
[06:21] <anand> fryguy: is there anyway you or someone else can access my comp and check it out?
[06:21] <kevdog> Can someone sudo me already?
[06:21] <Terralthra> If it's a legacy card (96), such as a GeForce4 2Go
[06:21] <lucent> raylu: except now instead of "su -sh" it's "sudo su"
[06:21] <arktvrvs> sudo yourself :P
[06:22] <Terralthra> it will not work with the latest x
[06:22] <lucent> raylu: :P
[06:22] <anand> fryguy: or can i send the file across or something?
[06:22] <arktvrvs> sudo passwd && su
[06:22] <arktvrvs> :P
[06:22] <clearzen> Terralthra: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8500 GT
[06:22] <raylu> lucent: sudo -i, sudo -s
[06:22] <fryguy> virgo1143: I strongly disagree with the use cases that it enables, i dislike the "use sudo for everything" attitude that has cropped up because of it, and I feel very strongly that if you need to do an administrative task on the machine you do something special other than tacking 4 letters onto the beginning of the command
[06:22] <raylu> lucent: also, sudo passwd, su
[06:22] <kamils2> hi people what time is it ?
[06:22] <n2diy> anand, sure, but you don't wantt to do that.
[06:22] <JulioNeto> raylu, the most strange thing is that it was working today at morning 0.o
[06:22] <fryguy> anand: sure, install openssh-server, create and account, and give us your ip, and open port 22 on your firewall if need be
[06:22] <Terralthra> hm, that should still work, clearzen
[06:22] <raylu> JulioNeto: 0.o
[06:23] <lucent> fryguy: what? no!  :P
[06:23] <anand> fryguy: let me try
[06:23] <dongs> E319: Sorry, the command is not available in this version
[06:23] <clearzen> Terralthra: I know. I'm about to install arch if I just have to reinstall everything anyway lol
[06:23] <fryguy> also sudo su - works
[06:23] <Jordan_U> anand, It's probably a bad idea to give random people on the internet access to your computer :)
[06:23] <dongs> ^ how do i get a non-fail version of vim
[06:23] <dongs> syth syntax highlighting
[06:23] <kevdog> fryguy: port 22 will be open -- need to port forward through router -- confident no firewall was activated in this case
[06:23] <raylu> clearzen: nvidia-xconfig
[06:23] <fryguy> dongs: apt-get install vim
[06:23] <Jordan_U> dongs, install "vim-full"
[06:23] <JulioNeto> raylu, On Win it is working pretty well. (that's the first time that something just works in win)
[06:23] <lucent> dongs: look for "ctags" and fim-full
[06:23]  * lucent vails
[06:23] <tiyowan> anand: Jordan_U <- Good advice. :)
[06:23] <clearzen> Terralthra: tryed it. The logs look normal too. I'm stumped
[06:23] <lucent> dongs: vim-vull
[06:23] <dongs> Jordan_U: uh, yes, without installing 180megs of gnome libs.
[06:24] <lucent> argh.   I'm done trying
[06:24] <fryguy> kevdog: by firewall i meant anything on the network, including the fake firewall created by NAT on a router
[06:24] <raylu> clearzen: you mean nvidia-xconfig?
[06:24] <anand> jordan_U: can I send that file across?
[06:24] <fryguy> kevdog: do you really find it necessary to make useless corrections to everything that I say?
[06:24] <JulioNeto> any idea guys?
[06:24] <kevdog> fryguy: uhhh maybe?
[06:24] <dongs> hello?
[06:24] <dongs> vim-full = no, it installs 180megs of gnome junk
[06:25] <lucent> dongs: and...
[06:25] <dongs> ...
[06:25] <fryguy> dongs: maybe vim-nox will meet your needs
[06:25] <Jordan_U> anand, If there is nothing confidential about it ( and it's legal to send ) sure
[06:25] <Arrowhead212002> i really hate that if i install inside of windows ther biggest selection i get is 30g
[06:25] <raylu> dongs: the "vim" package alone might be enough
[06:25] <JulioNeto> hummm
[06:25] <fryguy> dongs: i have no idea what you mean by non-fail, you should try to be more descriptive
[06:25] <dongs> vim has no syntax highlight
[06:25] <clearzen> Terralthra: yeah, it tells me when I reload X my settings are not properly detected and I am not using the nvidia driver but when I check /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old it all looks normal no errors
[06:25] <anand> jordan_U: nothing illegal about it
[06:25] <kevdog> fryguy: dealing with noobs here -- need lots of clarifications
[06:25] <lucent> fryguy: !fail looks too close to fail!
[06:25] <dongs> i instaled vim-runtime as suggested and that didnt work either
[06:26] <dongs> vim-nox is also no-go
[06:26] <dongs> i dont need tcl or libruby
[06:26] <dongs> i dont use either.
[06:26] <spree> lucent, that's really valuable information. maybe you should take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:26] <onetinsoldier> dongs: install vim-tiny
[06:26] <dongs> does that have syntax highlighting.
[06:27] <fryguy> dongs: if ubuntu doesn't supply vim packaged with a set of configure-opts the way you want, your best bet would be to go to vim.org and compile it yourself with the exact set of configure opts that you want, since you seem to have a very specific list of what you want
[06:27] <onetinsoldier> dongs: oh..i don't know... hang on
[06:27] <chilli0> hello all, i need help getting my LAN working propelry
[06:27] <lucent> spree: I didn't ask you to bully me.
[06:27] <n2diy> anybody familiar with adding syntac highlighting to gedit?
[06:27] <dongs> fryguy: i have a very specific set of things i want, i just want syntax highlithing
[06:27] <bazhang> !offtopic
[06:27] <Jordan_U> anand, Can you just give us a link to download it from the source if it's a free program?
[06:27] <bazhang> please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:27] <Terralthra> this gnome-keyring-manager bug is so annoying
[06:27] <dongs> i dont see how having that requires 180megs of gnome libs.
[06:27] <kevdog> chilli0: what do you need?
[06:27] <Terralthra> and it's been around for 4 months
[06:27] <fryguy> dongs: pretty sure vim-nox provides that
[06:27] <Terralthra> such an easy bug to fix
[06:27] <Terralthra> and it's just sitting there
[06:27] <mib_nqw1e3> n2diy: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=749942
[06:28] <tiyowan> Flames > #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:28] <dongs> fryguy: it also provides tcl and ruby
[06:28] <dongs> neither of which I need
[06:28] <lucent> dongs: your needs are a little outside of the "norm"
[06:28] <n2diy> mib_975o21, thanks, I'll check it out
[06:28] <Jordan_U> dongs, You can compile from source
[06:28] <kevdog> #ubuntu-offtopic = OMGPP?
[06:28] <fryguy> dongs: so then if you don't want tcl and ruby, go to vim.org and compile vim to have the exact set of options that you want
[06:28]  * lucent seconds Jordan_U's suggestion
[06:28] <dongs> i was doing that in 1998
[06:28] <error404notfound> I am trying to remove openqrm-server on ubuntu hardy server, and I get http://pastebin.com/m37f60b88 , any idea how can I remove it?
[06:28] <chilli0> kevdog:  well help? when the computer is connected to the lan it doesnt work, the internet
[06:28] <mib_nqw1e3> n2diy: someone already made the pbasic syntax file and said where to out it
[06:28] <dongs> i was hoping by 2008 tehy would figure out how to do that shit without wasting my time.
[06:28] <chilli0> kevdog:  but wireless doe
[06:28] <bazhang> dongs watch the language
[06:28] <dongs> when i install a text editor in windows
[06:28] <kevdog> chilli0: Are you trying to use both at same time?
[06:28] <dongs> it doesnt install 200megs of unrelated junk
[06:29] <dongs> to do syntax highlighting
[06:29] <fryguy> dongs: there's a few dozen configure options, ubuntu isn't going to provides hundreds of different binary packages so that you can get the exact vim that you want. it provides a few common configurations.  if you don't like this common configurations, compile it yourself.
[06:29] <clearzen> dongs: just a backdoor for the nsa
[06:29] <raylu> dongs: instead, you get junk
[06:29] <chilli0> kevdog:  no, When i just have lan in it doesnt work
[06:29] <lucent> dongs: storage is cheap, quit wasting our time you know?   I don't walk into a bank and complain that I'm not legally allowed to take other people's money...
[06:29] <n2diy> mib_975o21,  I have the .xml flie for it, which works in Kate, but now I'm trying to get it to work in gedit.
[06:29] <dongs> lucent: uh what.
[06:29] <dongs> lucent: NICE COMPARISON THERE.
[06:29] <lucent> dongs: vim-full, it does at least what you want
[06:29] <dongs> totally relevant.
[06:29] <chilli0> kevdog:  It lets me get to the router but not past there
[06:29] <lucent> maybe 100mb more than you want
[06:29] <tiyowan> !off-topic
[06:29] <kevdog> chilli0: straight up ubuntu install -- no vm or anything? cable connected in back to router?
[06:29] <raylu> dongs: it's called an analogy
[06:29] <lucent> but it does at least what you're looking for
[06:29] <dongs> lucent: yes i know what it does. it also installs 180megs of GUI/X11/GNOME libs.
[06:29] <raylu> lucent: i don't either; i steal it
[06:30] <lucent> ha @ raylu
[06:30] <lucent> :)
[06:30] <chilli0> yes levene
[06:30] <Terralthra> so lucent
[06:30] <kevdog> chilli0: so you get an ip address?
[06:30] <chilli0> yes kevdog
[06:30] <Jordan_U> dongs, If you want a distribution that allows you to install just what you need and nothing more then try gentoo, binary distributions can't be all things to all people
[06:30] <fryguy> dongs: you've been told what to do, twice. just go and do it
[06:30] <chilli0> yes i do
[06:30] <Terralthra> any idea why this gnome-keyring-manager bug has sat unfixed for 4+ months?
[06:30] <ushimitsudoki> dongs: you can get syntax highlighting in nano. or are you after it in vim only?
[06:30] <kevdog> chilli0: so its either a route or dns problems
[06:30] <fryguy> Terralthra: there are thousands of bugs in the system, and not thousands of developers who have knowledge to fix each bug.
[06:30] <chilli0> kevdog:  i think it may be a DNS
[06:30] <Terralthra> this is a metapackage dependence error
[06:30] <clearzen> Terralthra: translation, no one cares enough to fix it
[06:31] <tiyowan> chilli0: Does the light on your NIC at the back of the computer switch on btw?
[06:31] <stdin> dongs: if you just want syntax highlighting, just use nano
[06:31] <Terralthra> It's cake to fix
[06:31] <lucent> Terralthra: I really don't know, I might joke about chuck norris and the time continuum, but really which bug?
[06:31] <chilli0> Yes it does tiyowan
[06:31] <kevdog> chilli0: to prove this can you ping a ip address and get a response?
[06:31] <chilli0> to do that
[06:31] <vermont> in 8.04 I was found a way to open and save .docx in Open Office. Does anyone know if I can do it in 8.10
[06:31] <bazhang> lucent please take chat elsewhere
[06:31] <fryguy> Terralthra: if you are sure it's easy to fix, that would imply that you know how to fix it.  In which case you should contribute your fix
[06:31] <Terralthra> the one about gnome-desktop-environment depending on gnome-keyring-manager, which no longer exists
[06:31] <chilli0> i must take out my wirelss
[06:31] <tiyowan> chilli0: Can you ping google.com?
[06:31] <dongs> stdin: nano is trash
[06:31] <chilli0> so brb give me about 1mins
[06:31] <stdin> dongs: cheaper than vim
[06:31] <kevdog> whats different between vi and vim?
[06:32] <n2diy> fryguy, your wrong, there are millions of developers working on linux.
[06:32] <clearzen> dongs: why is nano trash? do you do a lot of coding in a CLI text editor?
[06:32] <fryguy> kevdog: a lot
[06:32] <Terralthra> fryguy - I'm pretty sure I don't have access to the apt-get repository's dependence tree
[06:32] <fryguy> n2diy: that is true, and there are thousands working on ubuntu, just like i said
[06:32] <Terralthra> also, shouldn't vim v. vi. pico v. nano be in offtopic?
[06:32]  * tiyowan sighs.
[06:32] <fryguy> Terralthra: you don't, but you do have the ability to create a patch and submit it, or highlight the exact steps necessary in the launchpad issue
[06:32] <tiyowan> !off-topic
[06:32] <error404notfound> anyone who can help me remove openqrm-server, I get http://pastebin.com/m37f60b88
[06:32] <lucent> bazhang: so I'm working the other day, and I hear a story about a Russian guy... he knows maybe only a few words of English, and walks into the theater.. He points at the icecream and announses "GIVE ME DOVE BAR".   that's the kind of thing that goes in #ubuntu-offtopic right?
[06:32] <kevdog> That cleared it up for me
[06:33] <n2diy> fryguy, Ok, I think we fight for the same side.
[06:33] <fryguy> kevdog: there's a list on vim.org
[06:33]  * ElijahDuBarryVT is back (gone 09:26:03)
[06:33] <Terralthra> fryguy - exact step necessary: UNDELETE GNOME-KEYRING-MANAGER PACKAGE FROM 8.04 REPOSITORY
[06:33] <Terralthra> done
[06:33] <chilli0> back
[06:33] <kevdog> is vim more preferrable?
[06:33] <fryguy> kevdog: yes
[06:33] <vermont> Does anyone know if there's a way to open/save .docx files in 8.10?
[06:34] <kevdog> I'm dating myself, since I remember when there was no vim -- only vi or emacs
[06:34] <Terralthra> I mean, there are fancier solutions, like make a metapackage which depends on either seahorse or the old keyring-manager, and have gnome-desktop-environment depend on that
[06:34] <Terralthra> for example
[06:34] <n2diy> vermont, sure Open Office should do that.
[06:34] <chilli0> rm
[06:34] <fryguy> kevdog: that was only about 17 years ago
[06:34] <Terralthra> but that seems like much more work
[06:34] <chilli0> back
[06:34] <kevdog> Dont keep up with the time
[06:34] <tiyowan> vermont: The newest version of OpenOffice opens them by default.
[06:34] <chilli0> kevdog:  here is the PB http://paste.pocoo.org/show/95997/
[06:34] <Terralthra> than "don't delete packages without updating (rather important!) things which depend on them"
[06:35] <clearzen> kevdog: vim is like 15 or 20 years old isn't it?
[06:35] <vermont> tiyowan, I can't seem to find a way to save a .docx file though. I guess it's really not a big issue, I was just wondering because I could do it in Hardy.
[06:35] <fryguy> clearzen: like i just said, it's about 17 years old
[06:35] <kevdog> Unix is older
[06:35] <clearzen> fryguy: oh missed that, sorry. I always understood it is a unix program
[06:35] <JulioNeto> somebody told to delete the rule of my USB 3G modem in '/etc/udev/rules.d' ... but he didn't tell what rule is it! Ôô How can I find it out?
[06:35] <raylu> kevdog: have you heard about this fancy thing called gedit?
[06:35] <n2diy> vermont, would manually adding .doc to the file work?
[06:35] <arktvrvs> gvim!
[06:36] <tiyowan> vermont: No idea, mate. My company's still on an old version of MS Office.
[06:36] <fryguy> ^^ is terrible
[06:36] <kevdog> raylu: Despise that program -- but do use it occassionally :)
[06:36] <arktvrvs> hehe
[06:36] <raylu> kevdog: lol
[06:36] <vermont> n2diy, I'm sorry. I don't need .doc support. .docx is for word 2007.
[06:36] <kevdog> I think I know about 5 commands using vi/vim.  Thank god that command keys are the same between the two programs
[06:36] <tiyowan> emacs - Almost an OS itself. The only thing it doesn't do is boot.
[06:36] <vermont> tiyowan, ok thanks.
[06:37] <n2diy> anybody familiar with adding syntac highlighting to gedit?
[06:37] <stephans> hey this app is awesome! http://handbrake.fr/?article=download
[06:37] <bazhang> please take text editor remininicences to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:37] <n2diy> vermont, ok so .docx?
[06:37] <clearzen> kevdog: the major advantage to vim is almost all non windows systems have it built in so it is cross platform
[06:37] <kevdog> chilli0: Can you ping by specific ip address?
[06:37] <fryguy> clearzen: that isn't true
[06:37] <kevdog> clearzen: Wouldn't that be vi rather than vim?
[06:37] <\Kira> A file ive never seen before just poped up on my computer. Is there a way I can find information about this file and were it came from and when?
[06:37] <clearzen> fryguy: ok in my experience
[06:38] <tiyowan> chili0: Can you ping your router? As in ping 192.168.1.1?
[06:38] <dongs> \Kira: OMG IS IT A GARBAGE FILE??
[06:38] <fryguy> clearzen: your experience is that a vi-like program has always been available
[06:38] <vermont> n2diy, i'm not sure I will try. thanks for the suggestion.
[06:38] <dongs> are they TRASHING YOUR RIGHTS??
[06:38] <kevdog> chilli0: Do you have nslookup installed?
[06:38] <n2diy> vermont, gl
[06:38] <clearzen> fryguy: true
[06:38] <\Kira> dongs: lol, no.... Its called "elite.htm" and its filled with random stuff. Almost looks like a program
[06:38] <chilli0> nop
[06:39] <\Kira> dongs: lol, nevermind. I figured out what it is  :P
[06:39] <trojatra> dongs, thank you for that.
[06:39] <lucent> shoot, I missed out.  \Kira ? :O
[06:39] <ganymede> does anyone know what happens with sshfs if the host goes down or the network connection dies? can it still be unmounted?
[06:39] <dongs> elite.htm sounds elite
[06:39] <kevdog> Ok ping google like ping 72.14.205.100
[06:39] <fryguy> ganymede: yes
[06:39] <chilli0> kevdog:  no
[06:39] <chilli0> i mean ok
[06:40] <lucent> ganymede: under "normal" conditions, yes
[06:40] <kevdog> chilli0: A response?
[06:40] <chilli0> kevdog:  i think its ubuntu, like some settings
[06:40] <\Kira> dongs, lucent: I turned it execuntable and then removed the .htm part. Turns out its a picture I downloaded a while ago :P
[06:40] <kevdog> chilli0: What?
[06:40] <chilli0> kevdog: same error as befor
[06:40] <ganymede> fryguy, thanks, and i assume sshfs is really stable right? very low chance of data loss, okay to use as a permanent mount in a production environment?
[06:40] <chilli0> i think its the settings in ubuntu kevdog
[06:40] <fryguy> ganymede: probably not
[06:40] <\Kira> dongs, lucent: for some reason firefox added a .htm extension....
[06:40] <lucent> \Kira: oh, happens all the time :P    what  does "file elite.htm" have to say about its content?
[06:40] <kevdog> chilli0: Can you ping router or any other computer on the lan?
[06:41] <ddalton> hey what r my chances of getting ubuntu on a 2 gb disk?
[06:41] <chilli0> yes
[06:41] <fryguy> ddalton: 0
[06:41] <kevdog> Ok, then it may be a routing problem
[06:41] <chilli0> kevdog:  i think its ubuntu settings
[06:41] <kevdog> chilli0: What does /etc/route look like
[06:41] <clearzen> ddalton: use slackware lol
[06:41] <\Kira> lucent: its like this matrix thing, my first assumption was that some stupid immature kid hacked me and wanted to brag, but that didnt seem right
[06:41] <ddalton> ok
[06:41] <lucent> ddalton: Ubuntu Server might fit, I don't suggest a *nix system on less than 6gb disk for normal use
[06:41] <kevdog> sudo su me
[06:41] <tiyowan> chilli0: Type route and pastebin results, please.
[06:41] <ganymede> fryguy, have you experienced data loss with sshfs?
[06:41] <chilli0> kevdog:  because this all started when i pluged in the wireless and took it out
[06:42] <fryguy> ganymede: yes
[06:42] <clearzen> ddalton: just kidding. if you want X you need more space
[06:42] <PeterFA> What's the iptables save command?
[06:42] <ddalton> and is it possible to just tell the install prog to install to a usb (will this allow me to boot ubuntu from my usb where ever I go?)
[06:42] <lucent> ddalton: anyways you can get a smaller distro for graphical use but it won't be Ubuntu
[06:42] <fryguy> ganymede: NFS is a much better solution for filesystem sharing
[06:42] <raylu> lucent: wubi has the option of installing on 4
[06:42] <kevdog> chilli0: take down the wireless then
[06:42] <lucent> raylu: interesting point, I guess if you already have Windows
[06:42] <clearzen> fryguy: it isn't encrypted though
[06:42] <raylu> ddalton: see damn small linux
[06:42] <tiyowan> !usb
[06:42] <fryguy> clearzen: so?
[06:42] <chilli0> i did that kevdog
[06:42] <tiyowan> ddalton: See above.
[06:43] <kevdog> chilli0: Are you using network manager?
[06:43] <n2diy> ddalton, only if the computers you try to boot from support booting from ISB
[06:43] <clearzen> fryguy: ok, just personal preference I guess
[06:43] <lucent> raylu: mind if I privmsg you for a minute? something on my mind I want to share that's IRC and #ubuntu related
[06:43] <ddalton> ok, cool thanks.
[06:43] <ganymede> fryguy, i also want to password protect the mount. i cannot do shares per-host because i am on a dynamic IP, it will change so i don't know how to tell the server who should be able to see the share and who shouldn't
[06:43] <\Kira> exit
[06:43] <n2diy> isb=us
[06:43] <error404notfound> anyone who could help me remove openqrm-server that I installed using deb files on hardy server, now when I try to remove, I get: http://pastebin.com/m37f60b88
[06:43] <\Kira> opps. Thought this was a terminal for a second...
[06:43] <fryguy> clearzen: if you want to encrypt nfs traffic, you can
[06:44] <clearzen> fryguy: with what gpg?
[06:44] <kevdog> chilli0: route -n
[06:44] <fryguy> ganymede: that's what unix filesystem permissions are for
[06:44] <raylu> lucent: go ahead
[06:44] <chilli0> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/95998/
[06:44] <lucent> thanks
[06:44] <fryguy> clearzen: and kerberos, and ssh tunneling, among other things
[06:44] <onetinsoldier> error404notfound: i'm taking a look....
[06:44] <clearzen> fryguy: you're right it's just a little extra work I guess
[06:44] <chilli0> kevdog:  http://paste.pocoo.org/show/95999/
[06:44] <chilli0> kevdog:  thats with the wireless in
[06:45] <chilli0> do u want me to take it out?
[06:45] <fryguy> clearzen: NFS has been around for decades, and is written into the kernel.  sshfs is a random utility FS that runs in userland and has only been around for a couple of years.  Which do YOU think is better to use :/
[06:45] <tiyowan> chilli0: Can you ping 182.168.254.254 ok?
[06:45] <chilli0> with or w\o wireless?
[06:45] <dongs> i got a better question for you
[06:45] <kevdog> chilli0: What is the address of your router 192.168.254.254 or 192.168.1.1?
[06:45] <dongs> why do opensores faggots have this weird/strange urge to hide shit?
[06:45] <raylu> fryguy: sshfs takes 2 seconds to set up, nfs takes a lifetime :P
[06:45] <dongs> i mean.. encrypted home directory... secure filesystems.. encryption this and that
[06:45] <ganymede> fryguy, when checking whether a user should be able to access the file, it checks user ID# or string? because someone else on the network might have the same uid as me, or by coincidence, the same username
[06:46] <tiyowan> chilli0: With wire only.
[06:46] <chilli0> 192.168.254.254
[06:46] <error404notfound> onetinsoldier: can please pm me anything that you find, I gotta leave seat for sometime...
[06:46] <onetinsoldier> error404notfound: looks like you've lost all the 'prerm' scripts for thos packages
[06:46] <chilli0> tiyowan ill take it out in a min
[06:46] <fryguy> raylu: vim /etc/exports; exportfs -a; mount on the remote machine; done
[06:46] <chilli0> kevdog:  my router is r 192.168.254.254
[06:46] <fryguy> raylu: it's not that hard :/
[06:46] <clearzen> fryguy: well, I am not running a professional production network so my needs are different. Also, new is not always the lesser option
[06:46] <raylu> ganymede: there is a way to sync uids
[06:46] <raylu> fryguy: syncing uids :P
[06:46] <kevdog> chilli0: on with wire in as someone stated above
[06:46] <chilli0> ok
[06:46] <chilli0> so when im on wire what do i do?
[06:46] <chilli0> ping  192.168.254.254
[06:46] <tiyowan> chilli0: ping 182.168.254.254 from a terminal
[06:47] <chilli0> why 182?
[06:47] <tiyowan> chilli0: er, 192.
[06:47] <chilli0> k
[06:47] <clearzen> fryguy: but that is why there are options. For different needs
[06:47] <chilli0> brb
[06:47] <fryguy> raylu: NIS/kerberos are solutions for that
[06:47] <raylu> fryguy: which you then have to set up :D
[06:47] <fryguy> clearzen: the original question asker was working in a large production environment
[06:47] <kkkyle> anyone want to help a beginner?
[06:47] <raylu> fryguy: sshfs, on the other hand, is quicker :D. not that i'm saying it's better...
[06:47] <fryguy> raylu: those should be parts of any enterprise production infrastructure
[06:47] <fryguy> raylu: you are taking my recommendation out of context
[06:47] <kevdog> chilli0: Take down the wireless interface with something like a sudo ifconfig wlan0 down,  bring up wired interface: sudo ifconfig eth0 up, Ask for dhcp lease: sudo dhclient eth0, then ping away
[06:48] <raylu> !hi | fryguy
[06:48] <fryguy> raylu: the person asking was asking about production environments
[06:48] <raylu> oh. didn't know :P
[06:48] <n2diy> anybody familiar with adding syntac highlighting to gedit?
[06:48] <kevdog> n2diy: no
[06:48] <clearzen> fryguy: you are right NFS is better for a business environment I believe
[06:48] <n2diy> kevdog, thanks
[06:48] <fryguy> clearzen: it's also faster
[06:48] <chilli0> kevdog:  http://paste.pocoo.org/show/96000/
[06:48] <clearzen> fryguy: yes it is
[06:48] <chilli0> it worked
[06:49] <Jordan_U> n2diy, I think it's there by default, just edit the "profile" ( settings )
[06:49] <kevdog> chilli0: try pinging google or something
[06:49] <anand> jordan_U: the file is a stock trading application
[06:49] <onetinsoldier> error404notfound: i don't know for certain if this would work, but i recommend that you try...  apt-get install --resintall <all_those_packages>  ...then try your dpkg -r command again
[06:49] <anand> jordan_U: you can't download it
[06:49] <overrider> what is the better name for a general it company, say there are just those two: packetfox or lemontek ? thanks for a tip
[06:49] <tiyowan> chilli0: Go back to wire and ping google.com
[06:49] <chilli0> kevdog:  i did that b4
[06:49] <kevdog> Loved notepad++ for syntax highlighting -- that was a good windows program -- does worth with wine -- but I hate wine!
[06:50] <n2diy> Jordan_U, Yes it is, but I want to add to the list/,options
[06:50] <choxos> How can I change GDM resolution?
[06:50] <kevdog> chilli0: And what happens?
[06:50] <kevdog> ping by both name and iip address
[06:50] <chilli0> hilli@Prodigy:~$ ping google.com
[06:50] <chilli0> ping: unknown host google.com
[06:50] <kevdog> also post the route -n result
[06:50] <lucent> NFS better than what, for business environment?
[06:50] <fryguy> lucent: sshfs
[06:50] <chilli0> k brb gonna do it again
[06:51] <clearzen> lucent: sshfs
[06:51] <lucent> oh thanks, sorry I missed the context
[06:51] <kevdog> chilli0: ping by ip address!
[06:51] <lucent> NFS is pretty scary to deploy in a business environment, IMO
[06:51] <anand> fryguy: can you help me? can i send the file across to you?
[06:51] <clearzen> lucent: you can use tunneling
[06:52] <fryguy> anand: what file
[06:52] <chilli0> kevdog:
[06:52] <chilli0> you there?
[06:52] <chilli0> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/96001/
[06:52] <anand> fryguy: the installable file that I desperately want to run on ubuntu
[06:52] <kaimerra> I just started getting this error when booting my generic kernel, kernel panic-not syncing VFS Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0), but my RT doesn't get it, can?
[06:53] <kaimerra> *can anyone tell me why its one and not the other?
[06:53] <fryguy> anand: why would you send that to me
[06:53] <kevdog> chilli0: Ok can you ping by ip address?
[06:53] <lucent> kaimerra: ooh, could be that you need to re-run update-initramfs
[06:53] <tiyowan> chilli0: Go back to wire and do this: ping 209.85.171.100
[06:53] <chilli0> kevdog:  no still doesnt work
[06:53] <kevdog> chilli0: Make sure the wireless interface is down!!!
[06:54] <chilli0> kevdog:  i take out the wireless every time
[06:54] <kaimerra> I did just try reinstalling initramfs, and it updated the generic kernel, but not the RT. same result.
[06:54] <anand> fryguy: so that you can check it out and tell me if it works on ubuntu.. 'cause i'm told that not all files work here and i'm brand new to ubuntu.. and if that file works, i'll be able to use this OS full time and will never have to go back to windows again ... ever
[06:54] <chilli0> brb gonna ping 209.85.171.100
[06:54] <fryguy> anand: i'm not going to install your random software on my machine
[06:54] <fryguy> anand: and i don't have an ubuntu system around anyway
[06:54] <kaimerra> lucent: does the fact that I use LILO play into this?
[06:54] <lucent> kaimerra: lilo, for why?
[06:55] <kevdog> chilli0: Im not sure what that means -- taking out the card is not taking or destroying the interface  you have to use ifconfig up/down commands
[06:55] <tiyowan> kevdog: I don't think he's bringing the wireless interface down.
[06:55] <lucent> GRUB is the de-facto bootloader for Ubuntu these days
[06:55] <mn> I need some help with compiz fusion.  I can't get it to display a cube for the desktop.  It will only show a sheet with a desktop on either side.  Why is this and how can i fix it?
[06:55] <clearzen> mn: install ccsm
[06:55] <kaimerra> lucent: there is a bug with my laptop and grub that doesn't detect the optical drive
[06:55] <kevdog> chilli0: When you have your wired interface setup like you think it should be, can you post the results of ifconfig
[06:55] <lucent> kaimerra: oh bugger that
[06:55] <anand> fryguy: dude, it's authentic software... you can trust me, man. although i don't see why you can but your help will be appreciateed
[06:55] <mn> clearzen: sudo apt-get install ccsm?
[06:56] <JulioNeto> Guys... I'm trying to use my 3G USB modem but when I plug it to my PC nothing happen (should open the it's folder) and when I list lsusb just show "Bus 001 Device 011: ID 19d2:2000" no name, no nothing. Any idea?
[06:56] <chilli0> kevdog:  here is the ping http://paste.pocoo.org/show/96002/
[06:56] <fryguy> anand: like i just said i don't have an ubuntu machine around
[06:56] <clearzen> mn: yes, you can enable it there
[06:56] <lucent> kaimerra: I'm stuck, it's been too long since I last used lilo, ...
[06:56] <lucent> sorry mate
[06:56] <lucent> I meant LILO... RIP lilo
[06:56] <chilli0> kevdog:  my wireless is a little USB netgear one
[06:56] <anand> well.. can anybody take a look at my file.. i genuinely need help here...
[06:56] <mn> clearzen: I have that
[06:56] <kevdog> chilli0: That ping worked -- not sure what address that is -- but the wired is working!!!
[06:56] <chilli0> yepo
[06:56] <anand> this is the only file, that's keeping me from using ubuntu full time...
[06:56] <tiyowan> kevdog: That's google's address.
[06:57] <chilli0> yeh
[06:57] <kevdog> Try to open firefox and then type http://ipaddress
[06:57] <chilli0> now
[06:57] <chilli0> or wired
[06:57] <kevdog> chilli0: wired
[06:57] <chilli0> o
[06:57] <kevdog> http://209.85.171.100
[06:57] <chilli0> whgat?
[06:57] <tiyowan> chill0: Go back to wire and do http://209.85.171.100 in firefox.
[06:57] <chilli0> ok
[06:58] <lucent> JulioNeto: not experienced with that kind of device, hm
[06:58] <clearzen> *sigh* here goes a reinstall........updating never goes well for me
[06:58] <wartalker> how to use find to find file as .xxxx
[06:58] <tiyowan> kevdog: Banged up DNS maybe?
[06:58] <fryguy> wartalker: find <path> -name *.xxxx
[06:58] <kevdog> tiyowan: dns for sure :0
[06:58] <fryguy> wartalker: read the manpage for find
[06:58] <lucent> JulioNeto: does 'ifconfig -a' list an additional device?
[06:59] <kevdog> tiyowan: Id try opendns servers since something is funky with his right now
[06:59] <JulioNeto> lucent, hummm
[06:59] <n2diy> Wartalkeer, locate?
[06:59] <chilli0> kevdog:  it went to google
[06:59] <kevdog> chilli0: So everything is working with your wired except the dns translation
[07:00] <wartalker> fryguy: i mean find -type c -print , can that print the .xxx file
[07:00] <lucent> JulioNeto: I'm only guessing though, I've never had access to one of those USB cell modems, I'd think it was either a ppp device or some kind of serial device
[07:00] <tiyowan> kevdog: But it doesn't make sense. How come he's able to access sites through DNS using wireless and not wired?
[07:00] <chilli0> kevdog:  im guessing so
[07:00] <JulioNeto> lucent, hum... may be you can help me...
[07:00] <JulioNeto> look
[07:00] <lucent> JulioNeto: remember to use pastebin.com ;)
[07:00] <JulioNeto> lucent, hurum
[07:01] <n2diy> tiyowan, the wire doesn't know where to find the DNS server?
[07:01] <lucent> 23:35 <spree> The removal of you from ##ubuntu was a great patch
[07:01] <dayz-ivxx> woot i'm noob sorry.. is ubuntu 8.10  i686 or x86_64   or neither >.<
[07:01] <lucent> whoops, paste buffer
[07:01] <fryguy> dayz-ivxx: there is an installer available for both
[07:01] <tiyowan> n2diy: You mean incorrect DNS settings for ethernet on the router, right?
[07:01] <dayz-ivxx> sweet ty  :)
[07:01] <chilli0> kevdog:  Have you any clue how to fix a fubar dns?
[07:01] <onats1> what VNC should i install on my ubuntu in order for me to remote to my pc?
[07:02] <kevdog> chilli0: Take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=543659
[07:02] <n2diy> tiyowan,  could be, or no settings at all?
[07:02] <Terralthra> sigh
[07:02] <Terralthra> so irritating
[07:02] <chilli0> ok kevdog
[07:02] <Terralthra> I wish I could just use 8.10
[07:02] <fryguy> onats1: i'd recommend just using ssh to do remote connections, but if you really want to use the vnc protocol, check out vinagre
[07:02] <lucent> onats1: I like using vinagre viewer on Ubuntu systems, depends... are you trying to view a windows box from Ubuntu, or Ubuntu from another system
[07:02] <Terralthra> but I can't
[07:02] <cplab2-11> can i know how to mount logical drives from one os to other
[07:02] <fryguy> cplab2-11: use the mount command, see it's manpage
[07:02] <Terralthra> because Ubuntu decided that moving to a new X which obsoleted older nvidia cards was a great idea
[07:03]  * Terralthra sighs
[07:03] <kevdog> chilli0: post your /etc/resolv.conf file
[07:03] <tiyowan> n2diy: Agreed.
[07:03] <onats1> lucent,fryguy, i'm going to view it from a windows box
[07:03] <CarlFK> how can I tell what package I installed that had exim4 as a dep?
[07:03] <fryguy> onats1: like i said, i recommend using ssh to do remote connections
[07:03] <tiyowan> chilli0: Do you have access to your router? Go to http://192.168.254.254 from ff and post a screenshot of your DNS settings for ethernet.
[07:03] <onats1> fryguy, i want to be able to do vnc.. i need to work on something using eclipse
[07:04] <lucent> onats1: oh okay, that is pretty simple I think fryguy would have a more direct explanation than I would ;)
[07:04] <chilli0> tiyowan from ff?
[07:04] <fryguy> onats1: so, use eclipse over ssh.  i gave you a recommendation if you insist on using vnc
[07:04] <cplab2-11> fryguy: i did with mount command it is get mounted but i cant access the files
[07:04] <onats1> eclipse is with gui?
[07:04] <onats1> can i do that?
[07:04] <tiyowan> chilli0: Yes.
[07:04] <fryguy> onats1: sure
[07:04] <chilli0> tiyowan whats ff?
[07:04] <JulioNeto> lucent, I have bought this modem today at morning... When I plugged it on Ubuntu it just open the modem usb card, nothing more, so I went to win vista and installed the driver there and worked as should do. I got back to Ubuntu and plugged the modem again... and NOW it doesn't show me anything, not the usb card 0.o.
[07:04] <CarlFK> Terralthra: the nvidia v96 doesn't help?  (it worked for my gforce2)
[07:04] <tiyowan> chilli0: Firefox.
[07:05] <Terralthra> CarIFK - v96 doesn't work with 8.10's upgraded X11
[07:05] <JulioNeto> lucent, if I solve this problem (the detection one) My modem will work pretty well ^-^
[07:05] <chilli0> so kevdog my config file is http://paste.pocoo.org/show/96003/
[07:05] <fryguy> cplab2-11: why can't you access the files
[07:05] <chilli0> and tiyowan wired ?
[07:05] <tiyowan> JulioNeto: It isn't a Winmodem by any chance is it?
[07:05] <lucent> JulioNeto: so, you're saying that this thing contains a USB storage device?  or what
[07:05] <tiyowan> chilli0: No you can do it form here.
[07:05] <chilli0> kk
[07:05] <JulioNeto> tiyowan, I don't think so
[07:05] <onats1> fryguy, can you tell me how to get the gui to work?
[07:05] <CarlFK> Terra it's working on my 8.10...
[07:06] <onats1> i'm using putty
[07:06] <lucent> JulioNeto: I'm pretty confused by this and don't have any experience to say what to do next :/
[07:06] <JulioNeto> lucent, YES! a storage device :D
[07:06] <Terralthra> how did you get it working?
[07:06] <lucent> JulioNeto: ah...
[07:06] <chilli0> tiyowan were do i go into?, home network?
[07:06] <JulioNeto> *lucent, YES! a storage device too:D
[07:06] <lucent> JulioNeto: that's pretty clever.  and I don't like it already! :P
[07:06] <fryguy> onats1: you run eclipse remotely via ssh, and it runs on local x server
[07:06] <cplab2-11> when i click on that mounted drive i am getting an error as unable to open /dev/hda1
[07:06] <tiyowan> chilli0: Look for DNS, yeah. Post a screenshot, please.
[07:06] <fryguy> onats1: via x11 forwarding
[07:06] <JulioNeto> :p
[07:06] <lucent> JulioNeto: privmsg, I'll try to help you out
[07:07] <cplab2-11> fryguy: when i click on that mounted drive i am getting an error as unable to open /dev/hda1
[07:07] <fryguy> cplab2-11: i said use the mount command, not the gui
[07:07] <JulioNeto> =D
[07:07] <onats1> fryguy, but what if i'm on windows?
[07:07] <JulioNeto> yey
[07:07] <AnnonyMouse> hey guys. can anyone advise me on a lightweight low-spec distro for an old laptop: P3 966 512MB
[07:07] <fryguy> AnnonyMouse: debian
[07:07] <AnnonyMouse> deb-based
[07:07] <CarlFK> Terralthra: pretty much 'just worked' but that's once I stopped trying to also use the 2 ati pci cards. 'that' did break.  (multi head using older cards that need their bios inited)
[07:07] <raylu> onats1: there are x servers for windows. Xming, in particular
[07:07] <n2diy> AnnonyMouse, DSL, Damn Small Linux
[07:07] <onux> Hi
[07:07] <onats> raylu, thanks.. downloading...
[07:07] <chilli0> tiyowan i cant find DNS
[07:08] <cplab2-11> fryguy: ok can u send the commands how to mount
[07:08] <AnnonyMouse> no GUI
[07:08] <AnnonyMouse> thought og DSL...
[07:08] <tiyowan> chilli0: Be patient and keep looking around.
[07:08] <n2diy> AnnonyMouse, no gui, it fits on a floppy
[07:08] <fryguy> cplab2-11: sudo mkdir /mnt/tmp; sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/tmp; done
[07:08] <chilli0> tiyowan unless i make a custom network ip thingo
[07:08] <CarlFK> Terralthra: apt-get install nvid...96, rm xorg.conf, reboot.  good chance it will just work.
[07:08] <chilli0> ill show yuou
[07:08] <negge> what command should I use to unpack .gz files?
[07:08] <fryguy> cplab2-11: please read the manpage for mount, like i already told you to do
[07:08] <Terralthra> I'll try it
[07:08] <fryguy> negge: gunzip
[07:08] <negge> fryguy: it says it's not a ZIP archive or something
[07:08] <fryguy> negge: that's because it's not, it's a gzip archive
[07:08] <Nemykal> What is nvidia-detector actually meant to do?
[07:08] <AnnonyMouse> sounds like a plan! thanx! planning a NAS/torrent
[07:09] <kevdog> chilli0: have you modified you /etc/resolv.conf igle?
[07:09] <AnnonyMouse> fits bill
[07:09] <chilli0> no kevdog
[07:09] <chilli0> erm tiyowan were do i post it
[07:09] <fryguy> AnnonyMouse: i'd check out freebsd if it's going to just be a fileserver
[07:09] <fryguy> AnnonyMouse: get the option of using zfs
[07:09] <cplab2-11> fryguy: thanks i will do it
[07:09] <n2diy> AnnonyMouse, gl, hope you like a CLI
[07:09] <negge> fryguy: I need to unpack old Apache access.log files. Should I pass any parameters to gunzip?
[07:09] <fryguy> negge: no
[07:10] <raylu> negge: no, use zless and zgrep
[07:10] <Nemykal> I'm pretty sure I'm using the nvidia drivers on my 8400gs, not vesa, but glxgears seems to be slow and is effected by cpu speed. Is there a way I can tell I'm using nvidia acceleration and not vesa?
[07:10] <fryguy> negge: just read the manpage for it
[07:10] <tiyowan> chilli0: Try photobucket.
[07:10] <negge> fryguy: now it just worked, must have been something wrong with the first archive I tried
[07:10] <kevdog> chilli0: edit the file -- and put the following before the server 192.168.254.254 line:  server 208.67.222.222  server 208.67.220.220
[07:10] <CarlFK> Nemykal: run nvidia-settings. it will say "not using nvidia drivers" if you aren't
[07:10] <kevdog> chilli0: Put on two separate lines and then post the results of /etc/resolv.conf
[07:11] <chilli0> k
[07:11] <onetinsoldier> error404notfound: well, are you going to try my 'experimental' command? hehe
[07:11] <tiyowan> chilli0: And pastebin your /etc/resolv.conf file, too.
[07:11] <Ultraputz> what is the program responsible for gnome/metacity'
[07:11] <Ultraputz> s desktop ?
[07:11] <chilli0> kevdog:  http://paste.pocoo.org/show/96004/ like this?
[07:11] <fryguy> Ultraputz: clarify what you mean
[07:11] <Ultraputz> the root window with the icons?
[07:11] <fryguy> Ultraputz: it's not a single program, it's a series of dozens of programs
[07:11] <fryguy> Ultraputz: nautilus
[07:12] <kevdog> chilli0: sorry its nameserver and not server but your format was ok!!
[07:12] <Ultraputz> ok
[07:12] <Nemykal> Oh, CarlFK then I guess it works. nvidia-settings works fine. Just weird how glxgears is so reliant on cpu
[07:12] <Ultraputz> i'm running xfce and looking for a replacement for the root window / "desktop."
[07:12] <mn> What is the command to view the cube desktop with compiz fusion?  I can only see a flat sheet when I do what should envoke a cube.  Help please
[07:12] <chilli0> kevdog:  so what do i do?
[07:12] <Plecebo> I am trying to rescue some data from a failing hard drive using ddrescue. I used this command and it is copying the image now... did I make an error? sudo ddrescue -vr 5 /dev/sde /dev/sda /media/Archive/ddrescueLogFile
[07:12] <n2diy> anybody familiar with adding syntac highlighting to gedit?
[07:12] <chilli0> kevdog:  do i leave it like that?
[07:12] <fryguy> i just run without any desktop.  my desktop is always completely covered anyway, so icons on it are useless
[07:13] <kevdog> chilli0:  yes
[07:13] <tiyowan> chilli0: Change the server to nameserver both lines.
[07:13] <kevdog> chilli0: then type ping google.com
[07:13] <Ultraputz> i use the desktop as an extension to short term memory, being able to place things where i want them is kind of important.
[07:13] <Plecebo> I'm wondering if I will be able to do something like sudo fsck -y /dev/sda
[07:13] <kevdog> I love fsck
[07:13] <fryguy> i love filesystems that don't require the use of fsck ever
[07:13] <chilli0> so ill go back to wired
[07:13] <chilli0> brb
[07:13] <prjg_> hi guys, was wondering if anyone could help me
[07:14] <fryguy> prjg_: nobody can help you until you ask a question
[07:14] <tiyowan> chilli0: Change both of the server lines to nameserver. Save the file. And restart networking. sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:14] <kevdog> fsck is almost almost as pleasurable as sudo
[07:14] <raylu> kevdog: ...
[07:14] <kevdog> tiyowan:  good point about the networking restart
[07:14] <Plecebo> am I on the right track? Or will writing the image directly to the device not work?
[07:14] <kevdog> ?
[07:15] <kevdog> raylu: i'll be quiet now!
[07:15] <Entelin> is it normal on ubuntu that issuing  shutdown -r now  will cause the screen to go black and restart almost immediately? as opposed to showing the init.d shutdown procedure?
[07:15] <prjg_> I just installed Xubuntu 7.10 and when it tried to install grub, it gave me a fatal error, now it reboots to a grub prompt....from there, I have no idea
[07:15] <Plecebo> the only reason I did that rather then write the image to a mounted drive is that I don't have any drives with enough space to do that :( my largest functioning drive is the same size (400gb) as the one i'm attempting to rescue
[07:15] <onats> !xming
[07:15] <raylu> Entelin: livecd?
[07:15] <Entelin> no
[07:15] <spree> Entelin, no, that's not notmal. are you running a livecd or embedded, something odd like that?
[07:15] <chilli0> kevdog:  http://paste.pocoo.org/show/96006/
[07:15] <Entelin> nothing odd, standard install
[07:16] <onats> raylu, how do i use this xming? i get an error  Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[07:16] <Plecebo> Anyone have experience with ddrescue and writing directly to a device, rather then to a mounted partition?
[07:16] <chilli0> o wait
[07:16] <Entelin> im running the newest version  somthing.10
[07:16] <chilli0> brb
[07:16] <tiyowan> chill0: Did you restart networking? sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:16] <chilli0> no i didnt
[07:16] <chilli0> so brb
[07:16] <spree> Entelin, maybe your video card is dropping to a mode you can't see when it leaves X. What is your video card?
[07:16] <kevdog> chilli0:  did you do a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:16] <Entelin> im not running x
[07:16] <fryguy> onats: how are you trying to run the application
[07:16] <n2diy> spree, what is "odd" about  a live CD?
[07:16] <raylu> onats: what did you do? the simple answer is that $DISPLAY was not set, but it should have been set for you
[07:17] <fryguy> raylu: he probably is using putty and doesn't have x11 forwarding enabled
[07:17] <onats> fryguy, lets say i want to run GEDIT
[07:17] <chilli0> tiyowan some error i did restart it this time
[07:17] <ikonia> chilli0: you have no name servers setup
[07:17] <spree> n2diy, i don't really feel like going off on a tangent with you, do not even reply to this line.
[07:17] <kevdog> Doesnt alt-F6 drop you to a command shell?
[07:17] <tiyowan> chilli0: What error?
[07:18] <n2diy> spree, ok
[07:18] <chilli0> tiyowan chilli@Prodigy:~$ ping google.com
[07:18] <kevdog> So if your screeen is blank and you dont know if the sys crashed, you can drop to a command shell?
[07:18] <chilli0> ping: unknown host google.com
[07:18] <tiyowan> :/
[07:18] <raylu> fryguy: xming should start the ssh connection for him
[07:18] <ikonia> chilli0: you have name servers configured
[07:18] <fryguy> onats: plink -ssh -X user@host gedit   right on the xming website
[07:18] <spree> Entelin, are you running a bare minimum of services?
[07:18] <raylu> onats: did you run xming or xlaunch?
[07:18] <chilli0> ikonia:  i dont know
[07:18] <fryguy> raylu: no it shouldn't, it uses 3rd party programs like plink to do it
[07:18] <userbina_> hai
[07:19] <raylu> fryguy: xlaunch sets it up for you, though
[07:19] <ikonia> chilli0: sorry you have "no" name servers setu p
[07:19] <onats> the X11 forwarding,do i set that in the server?
[07:19] <fryguy> raylu: it might
[07:19] <juxo> Anyone have launch her VLC player today ?
[07:19] <chilli0> ok
[07:19] <spree> Entelin, if you are not running many processes it will reboot very quickly
[07:19] <n2diy> anybody familiar with adding syntac highlighting to gedit?
[07:19] <onats> raylu, xming
[07:19] <fryguy> raylu: depending on if you configure xming to start a client for you or not
[07:19] <Entelin> spree, nope, i know it running through the shutdown sequence, but I thought it was strange that I couldnt see the messages
[07:19] <tiyowan> ikonia: He can use his wireless connection okay. The DNS works, but we think his DNS settings for ethernet are incorrect. So we're trying to setup OpenDNS servers from Ubuntu. Help?
[07:19] <spree> Entelin, I suppose the main issue here is, 'is there actually a problem here'?
[07:19] <raylu> onats: use xlaunch. and yes, enable X11 forwarding
[07:19] <Entelin> probably not
[07:19] <fryguy> raylu: i usually just start xming without a client, and then have the applications i'm going to run in xmingrc menu, run via plink
[07:19] <Entelin> annoyance
[07:20] <kevdog> chilli0: is your resolve.conf file still the same?
[07:20] <ikonia> tiyowan: is the wirless and wired router the same device ?
[07:20] <chilli0> no
[07:20] <spree> Entelin, are you using more than one monitor, or have you ever done a major change in the monitor setup?
[07:20] <tiyowan> ikonia: Yes.
[07:20] <chilli0> its been changed back to what it was originaly
[07:20] <kevdog> Ok, so lets take a different approach
[07:20] <nomad77> n2diy: start with sudo apt-get install gedit-plugins
[07:20] <chilli0> Ok.
[07:21] <tiyowan> ikonia: He's using the same router for wired/wireless. Wireless DNS works ok. Wired's a no-go.
[07:21] <kevdog> chilli0: Lets modify the file /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[07:21] <n2diy> nomad77, Thanks, I have that set up already.
[07:21] <chilli0> kevdog:  want me to past bin that?
[07:22] <tiyowan> chill0: Yep.
[07:22] <Entelin> spree, no just one monitor.  hmm i noticed it does show a graphical bar thing though durring shutdown, didnt notice that last time
[07:22] <kevdog> chilli0: add a prepend line or change the existing one to read: prepend domain-name-servers 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220;
[07:22] <ikonia> kevdog: what are the two different entries in the resolv.conf file between wired and wirless
[07:22] <chilli0> there http://pastebin.com/m22568296
[07:23] <tiyowan> chilli0: Could you pastebin your /etc/resolv.conf file as well?
[07:23] <tiyowan> Hey wait a minute.
[07:23] <chilli0> there we goes http://pastebin.com/m5ac92db5
[07:23] <kevdog> tiyowan: Something is screwy here: both wired & wireless go through same router, but only in wireless case does the dns lookup work
[07:23] <tiyowan> The dh file is showing name-server as 127.0.0.1 for eth0
[07:23] <tiyowan> kevdog: Check out the dhclient file.
[07:24] <sky_> good morning ;]
[07:24] <onetinsoldier> hi
[07:24] <kevdog> tiyowan: OK -- Im not the one doing this
[07:24] <spree> Entelin, oh, it's showing the graphical bar instead of the init shutdown
[07:24] <spree> Entelin, that's actually a feature believe it or not
[07:24] <chilli0> kevdog:  what?
[07:25] <kevdog> chilli0: what what?
[07:25] <spree> i don't know how to turn that off though, somebody tell Entelin how to turn the graphical shutdown off so it shows the services turning off
[07:25] <kevdog> chilli0: did you edit the file?
[07:25] <chilli0> no
[07:25] <ikonia> chilli0: have you modified your dhclicen.conf file bedoe?
[07:25] <chilli0> i havent touched any files
[07:25] <ikonia> chilli0: thats nor possibe
[07:25] <chilli0> this all started when i pluged in my wireless
[07:26] <ikonia> ahhh thats the default, it's commented out
[07:26] <spree> Entelin, what you are seeing is the way it's designed, there's nothing 'wrong' but i know there's a way to turn that off
[07:26] <kevdog> ikonia: Im having him edit the dhclient.conf file right now
[07:26] <ikonia> kevdog: why ?
[07:26] <zErOaCid> anyone has experienced after upgrading the kernel, you got a message: /usr is broken when issuing the command sudo update-grub ? any work around with this ?
[07:26] <chilli0> should i just delete the files?
[07:26] <ikonia> kevdog: the file is fine
[07:26] <kevdog> ikonia: Im testing a theory
[07:26] <chilli0> it may remake them
[07:26] <nomad77> Entelin: maybe splash=silent verbose on grub root= line
[07:27] <kevdog> chilli0: now it will not
[07:27] <kevdog> no
[07:27] <onetinsoldier> error404notfound: where in the world have you gone too?
[07:27] <chilli0> ok
[07:27] <kevdog> chilli0: add the prepend line or change it like I said
[07:27] <ikonia> chilli0: it won't
[07:27] <kevdog> ikonia: I think the problem lies within the router itself
[07:27] <Entelin> yeah ill do that
[07:27] <Entelin> thanks
[07:28] <GoodC> um... is this the support channel?
[07:28] <tiyowan> kevdog: Agreed.
[07:28] <fryguy> GoodC: yes
[07:28] <kevdog> GoodC: yes
[07:28] <kevdog> fryguy: Sorry you beat me to it by 1 sec
[07:28] <raylu> GoodC: only on days that end in y
[07:28] <GoodC> Does anyone know anything about booting ubuntu onto a powerbook?
[07:28] <n2diy> !ask
[07:29] <chilli0> k get me a sec
[07:29] <kevdog> chilli0: post your dhclient.conf file when you are done!
[07:29] <chilli0> k
[07:29] <kevdog> chilli0: Im running out of battery
[07:29] <chilli0> were is the pretend line?
[07:29] <sky_> GooDc. ppc ?
[07:29] <GoodC> intel?
[07:29] <chilli0> o crap
[07:29] <kevdog> chilli0: prepend domain-name-servers 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220;
[07:29] <kevdog> Just add this
[07:29] <chilli0> done
[07:29] <GoodC> sorry, I dont know what ppc is.
[07:30] <tiyowan> chill0: Could you post a screenshot of your router settings?
[07:30] <tiyowan> ikonia: Does the dhclient file look all right to you? Because if it is, then I think we ought to have him modify his router settings.
[07:30] <Appiah> Anyway I can disable alt + mouse2 ? It kind of interupts some of my games
[07:30] <Appiah> in gnome
[07:30] <n2diy> GoodC, power book
[07:30] <chilli0> http://pastebin.com/m1c28a7c3
[07:30] <GoodC> yeah its a powerbook intel core 2 duo
[07:30] <fryguy> so, a macbook?
[07:30] <chilli0> tiyowan the DNS can only be changed if i change the setting to coustom
[07:30] <kevdog> chilli0: dont put a # sign in front of the line
[07:31] <GoodC> i already ran refit and used bootcamp to create a 40gb partition
[07:31] <chilli0> k
[07:31] <fryguy> GoodC: is it a macbook or a powerbook?
[07:31] <chilli0> done
[07:31] <GoodC> powerbook
[07:31] <tiyowan> chillo0: Remove the #; restart and check by pinging google.com
[07:31] <GoodC> LOL
[07:31] <kevdog> Save the file and do a networking restart
[07:31] <GoodC> sorry
[07:31] <GoodC> its a macbook pro
[07:31] <chilli0> tiyowan so wired?
[07:31] <GoodC> just one of those days
[07:31] <tiyowan> chilli0: Yeah wired.
[07:32] <chilli0> k
[07:32] <fryguy> GoodC: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[07:32] <n2diy> What's the diff. between power book and mac book?
[07:32] <kevdog> chilli0: Make sure you do a /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:32] <fryguy> n2diy: completely different processor and system architecture
[07:32] <GoodC> yeah ive been through that
[07:32] <fryguy> GoodC: so then ask a specific question
[07:32] <n2diy> fryguy, bummer.
[07:32] <GoodC> the problem is, as far as i can tell, to boot from a cd in mac i should restart and hold the c key while it loads until i see a menu to boot from cd
[07:33] <fryguy> GoodC: the apple key
[07:33] <GoodC> but mine just hangs for a bit and then ejects the cd
[07:33] <GoodC> huh ill try that
[07:33] <kevdog> chilli0: Hello?
[07:33] <GoodC> thanks, for helpin - im tryin it now
[07:33] <fryguy> GoodC: if you did it correctly, linux will be available as an option from the menu that pops up, and refit won't be necessary
[07:33] <Jordan_U> GoodC, Yes, but you also need the PPC version of Ubuntu, the x86 version will not boot on a powerbook
[07:34] <chilli0> you are all so sexy
[07:34] <chilli0> wait wtf
[07:34] <fryguy> Jordan_U: he has a macbook pro
[07:34] <chilli0> ok then
[07:34] <chilli0> im wtfing
[07:34] <FloodBot3> chilli0: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:34] <chilli0> kevdog:  im confuzed chilli@Prodigy:~$ ping www.google.com
[07:34] <Jordan_U> fryguy, Ahh, missed that :)
[07:34] <kevdog> chilli0: What?
[07:34] <chilli0> so if i go to firefox i goto google.com , but cant ping google
[07:34] <Entelin> ok one other irritation I would like to be rid of,  what is the fastest way to switch between windowmanagers?  usually I will use windowmaker, however occasionally ill switch to the default gnome one.  Normally i have done this by adding a  .xsession file, however having to rename it to switch back and fourth is kinda annoying.  any better way?
[07:34] <sky_> ping fbi.gov
[07:34] <chilli0> so google.com will open in firefox
[07:34] <mn> does one have to have more than 1 desktop to make a cube with compiz?
[07:34] <chilli0> but i cant ping it
[07:35] <Jordan_U> mn, Yes
[07:35] <fryguy> Entelin: gdm sessions should be created automatically when you install window managers
[07:35] <sky_> Entelin> fast is reinstall OS :D
[07:35] <fryguy> Entelin: they are in /etc/gdm/ i think
[07:35] <fryguy> sky_: lol wut
[07:35] <kevdog> chilli0: When did you find this out?
[07:35] <Entelin> without gdm since i dont use it
[07:35] <chilli0> when i went wired
[07:35] <fryguy> Entelin: what do you use?
[07:35] <chilli0> i went to google.com
[07:35] <Entelin> startx &
[07:35] <chilli0> and it work i was YAY
[07:35] <mn> Jordan_U:Why can I not have more than 1 desktop?  Is it my graphics card or something else?
[07:35] <chilli0> but then when i pinged google. it sayd ping: unknown host www.google.com
[07:36] <fryguy> Entelin: startx runs .xinitrc, check the manpage to see if you can make it use a different startup script
[07:36] <sky_> mn> have you enabled direct rendering ?
[07:36] <Jordan_U> Entelin, There is an option to choose a different session when you login if you use the GDM
[07:36] <mn> sky_: not that I know of.  Should I?
[07:36] <fryguy> Jordan_U: are you even paying attention to chat?
[07:36] <mn> if so, how?
[07:36] <bingoxXx> hi, I can't connet to 10.* ip addresses while I am able to connect 144.* in a LAN.
[07:36] <nomad77>  Entelin your .xinitrc used by startx just comment,uncomment window managers,easier for setting global settings also
[07:36] <onetinsoldier> chilli0: while on wired, can you install a package?
[07:36] <bingoxXx> what can be the reason?
[07:36] <Appiah> bingoxXx: routing
[07:36] <JulioNeto> can I delete all the content of "/etc/udev/rules.d"? Is any problem in do it?
[07:36] <chilli0> onetinsoldier:  not sure ill try it soon
[07:37] <sky_> mn. sure
[07:37] <tiyowan> chilli0: Is it working or now?
[07:37] <tiyowan> cilli0: Does ping google.com return anything?
[07:37] <bingoxXx> Appiah: thx, but how to do that
[07:37] <Jordan_U> fryguy, Wifi is going in and out, sometimes I am not seeing the most current posts / my post gets there late
[07:37] <fryguy> bingoxXx: your network isn't routing traffic correctly
[07:37] <kevdog> chilli0: I'm taking off for now -- battery is about out -- Ive had this error before too -- don't know why -- I think I rebooted which doesnt make a lot of sense, but things seemed to work themselves out.  Good luck on your problems.  If you need more help which these experts here can not provide, catch me in the forums.
[07:37] <Entelin> often when I want the gnome one ill fire it up as a second instance of x,  so gdm is somewhat awkward and I find it gets in the way.   but yeah ill probably just have to write a quick script
[07:37] <[kP]> hi, anybody use ebox-samba ?
[07:37] <Appiah> upload your config to pastebin and let us see it bingoxXx
[07:37] <sky_> mn: enable nonfree graphic drivers.
[07:37] <chilli0> tiyowan give me a min im gonna go wired and see wahts gonna happen
[07:37] <onetinsoldier> chilli0: i recommend installing iptraf, it might help you out
[07:37] <tiyowan> bingoxXx: Incorrect router inconfiguration.
[07:37] <chilli0> k thanks kevdog
[07:37] <chilli0> brb
[07:37] <bingoxXx> fryguy, so how to resolve this issue?
[07:37] <fryguy> bingoxXx: configure your network hardware correctly
[07:37] <LMJ> good morning the chan
[07:37] <bingoxXx> while on windows I am able to do that
[07:38] <mn> sky_: i have that enabled.  I don't think my card need proprietary drivers
[07:38] <GoodC> Morning
[07:38] <fryguy> bingoxXx: or use the route add command to configure static routes in ubuntu (not what you want to do)
[07:38] <sky_> mn: check if you have direct rendering : yes via : glxinfo | grep direct
[07:38] <fryguy> what does direct rendering have to do with enabling a second monitor?
[07:38] <chilli0> ok nm
[07:38] <chilli0> ok nm i thought it was working, but it doesnt work at all again
[07:38] <mn> sky_:it says yes
[07:39] <Jordan_U> mn, Just add another deskto via ccsm, the option is somewhat cryptically named IIRC, something like "horazontal size"
[07:39] <bingoxXx> fryguy, can to explain in detail. I am a beginner here
[07:39] <fryguy> bingoxXx: it's probably not an ubuntu problem
[07:39] <sky_> yeah
[07:39] <chilli0> tiyowan its not working
[07:39] <fryguy> bingoxXx: so this isn't the right place to be asking, unless you can provide more details that suggest the contrary
[07:39] <tiyowan> chilli0: I'm officially out of ideas. My gut instinct is to open your router configuration and configure it from there.
[07:39] <Entelin> i love the fact that ubuntu has a working copy of windowmaker,  centos ditched it :(
[07:39] <bingoxXx> fryguy but it is connecting in windows.
[07:39] <saivi> i was updating and for "Debconf:  do u want to keep local menu.lst..." msg came, i for curiosity selected open a new shell to compare...
[07:39] <chilli0> ah
[07:39] <chilli0> ok
[07:40] <mn> jordan_u:there is an option for number of desktops
[07:40] <chilli0> ill have to kill my self
[07:40] <chilli0> lol
[07:40] <mn> sky_: what should I do?
[07:40] <sky_> lol
[07:40] <fryguy> bingoxXx: so what is the topology of your network
[07:40] <saivi> its not responding and i'm stuck
[07:40] <n2diy> tiyowan, , chilli0 reset the router to it's defaults?
[07:40] <fryguy> bingoxXx: what device is doing routing between your 2 separate subnets
[07:40] <bingoxXx> fryguy, how to check that?
[07:40] <fryguy> bingoxXx: you go ask your network administrator
[07:40] <saivi> i cancelled it and am now in root prompt in "Applying Changes page" what to do?
[07:41] <sky_> mn: you want have CUBE ?
[07:41] <tiyowan> chilli0: You need to post screenshots of your router configuration. Are you typing "sudo ifconfig wlan0 down" before checking btw?
[07:41] <bingoxXx> fryguy, or from some commands can't I do that, goind to network admin is the last thing I want to do.
[07:41] <mn> sky_:yes
[07:41] <Jordan_U> saivi, In what way is it not responding? Can you run "echo test" ?
[07:41] <fryguy> bingoxXx: i can't help you unless I know what your network topology is and what specifically you want to do
[07:41] <bingoxXx> fryguy, probably because they are not at all helpful
[07:42] <bingoxXx> fryguy, ok, but can you suggest if the topology is known where should I look for the changes?
[07:42] <sky_> mn: ccsm-general-desktop size and put on virtual blah blah = 4
[07:42] <fryguy> bingoxXx: the router that routes between the 2 subnets
[07:43] <chilli0> ok tiyowan when i go wired and look at my config it has only one line in it and it is, #Generated by NetworkManager
[07:43] <tiyowan> bingoxXx: The router.
[07:43] <chilli0> n2diy:  i did that
[07:43] <bingoxXx> fryguy, it is a university lan
[07:43] <dayz-ivxx> How do i change the keyboard shortcut for my media player? to a non default media player?
[07:43] <saivi> at preset I'm in the root prompt in "Installing software" window..
[07:43] <fryguy> bingoxXx: unless you are asking your question incorrectly, you need to go talk to your network administrator
[07:43] <nomad77> saivi: try ctrl +c to kill apt-get,dpkg or whatever process
[07:44] <jeancalvin> what file(s) is/are changed when I open up System/Preferences/ScreenResolution?
[07:44] <tiyowan> chill0: Mate. I want you to do this all right? "sudo ifconfig wlan0 down" Then remove your wireless card. Then try to ping google.com. Then if that doesn't work, "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" and tell us.
[07:44] <saivi> won't it delete all the other files downloaded?  do i need to download them again?
[07:44] <jeancalvin> because sometimes that program does NOT say that the configuration file is going to be changed.
[07:44] <bingoxXx> fryguy, ok, but what can be the issue if it is connecting in windows but not in ubuntu?
[07:44] <mn> sky_: wow, I feel really stupid now :)  Thnx much for helping me!
[07:44] <nomad77> saivi: no just stops the install,it's recoverable files are good
[07:45] <fryguy> bingoxXx: no idea, i don't have enough details about what you are doing to even begin to suggest possibilities
[07:45] <Jordan_U> saivi, type "exit" and hit return
[07:45] <sky_> mn: you are welcome
[07:45] <bingoxXx> fryguy, ok. thanks for the help anyways
[07:45] <sky_> mn: but secret (i am not using Ubuntu :D)
[07:45] <Jordan_U> saivi, That should let it continue
[07:46] <mn> sky_: :) why not?
[07:46] <fryguy> sky_: neither am i
[07:47] <sky_> every distro choose his friends and ubuntu said that i am not friend :(
[07:47] <prjg_> can someone help me with a grub problem please?
[07:48] <tiyowan> !ask | prjg_
[07:48] <sky_> say your problem
[07:48] <fryguy> sky_: freebsd here, what are you using
[07:48] <GoodC> fryguy: if I boot up fedora on my partitioned macbook pro, can I -simply- boot ubuntu over it later?
[07:48] <mn> ah sky_, what distro do you prefer?
[07:48] <sidelil> Hello everybody, I'm trying to use cron, I'm editing the file with crontab -e and then checking with crontab -l, and it seems to be correct, but it doesn't work. Is there anything else I need to do to have it working? Thanks a lot
[07:48] <fryguy> GoodC: yes
[07:48] <sky_> Fedora10 :]
[07:48] <mn> ah, i have never used it
[07:49] <GoodC> awesome, thanks
[07:49] <fryguy> heh last time i was on a fedora machine was back in fedora 1
[07:49] <fryguy> i use freebsd on all of my machines now
[07:49] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: how long ago was that?
[07:49] <fryguy> onetinsoldier: dunno
[07:49] <fryguy> onetinsoldier: couple years i guess
[07:49] <prjg_> righto, I just got rid of Fedora 10, and put Xubuntu 7.10 in its place - after I installed from the live CD and rebooted, it just puts me to a grub prompt
[07:49] <nomad77> prjg_: root (hdx,y) then second line setup (hdx) then escape boot it up grub reads 1 above so if hda3 would be root (hd0,2) setup (hd0) as an example
[07:49] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: roger
[07:49] <GoodC> how do u type the person's name so quickly?
[07:49] <fryguy> GoodC: tab key
[07:50] <sky_> i want try again Ubuntu ...:]
[07:50] <tiyowan> I remember using red hat um, what was it v4?
[07:50] <GoodC> my tab key isnt doing anything
[07:50] <fryguy> ubuntu doesn't install on my hardware, for what is apparently no good reason, so other *nix i use
[07:50] <fryguy> GoodC: so then get an irc client that doesn't suck
[07:50] <nomad77> lol
[07:50] <GoodC> LOL
[07:50] <GoodC> im using the one that's bundled with ubuntu
[07:50] <fryguy> GoodC: although every irc client i know of supports it, so no idea what you are doing
[07:50] <tiyowan> GoodC: What irc client are you using?
[07:51] <GoodC> pigeon
[07:51] <sky_> Ubuntu means that i dont know configure debian but i know but there doesnt work for me graphic cards
[07:51] <fryguy> pidgin supports it
[07:51] <Jordan_U> GoodC, Type the first few letters of somebody's nick first, then hit tab
[07:51] <tiyowan> GoodC: Typing a couple of characters of the guy's name and then pressing help tab helps too. :D
[07:51] <fryguy> sky_: ubuntu means "i want to use debian and have more recent versions of popular packages"
[07:51] <chilli0> every one who helped
[07:51] <onetinsoldier> and a compiz that acutally works
[07:51] <chilli0> Thanks so much
[07:52] <chilli0> i managed to fix it
[07:52] <fryguy> well i don't use compiz so :/
[07:52] <tiyowan> chilli0: Did it work?
[07:52] <fryguy> compiz is pretty poor as a window manager
[07:52] <tiyowan> chilli0: What did you do?
[07:52] <mn> whoa, I just lost the bar that the top of my windows...  I need it back
[07:52] <sky_> i dont want make flame about other distros :]
[07:52] <sky_> its ubuntu channel :]
[07:52] <tiyowan> !off-topic
[07:52] <onetinsoldier> i used plain debian too, so i know
[07:52] <fryguy> i learned linux on plain debain
[07:52] <fryguy> debian
[07:52] <jim_p> good morning people
[07:53] <onetinsoldier> :-)
[07:53] <fryguy> back in the 1.x releases
[07:53] <Jordan_U> mn, Try typing alt+f2 (or opening a terminal ) and run "metacity --replace"
[07:53] <fedmor> good morning @all ^^
[07:53] <bening> anyone knows chanel for indonesian?
[07:53] <nomad77> mn: gnome-panel --restart ?
[07:53] <tiyowan> chilli0: How did you fix it, mate?
[07:53] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: red hat 5.0 here
[07:53] <chilli0> tiyowan i went into wired and changed , the  sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf , to the same as what wireless had
[07:53] <tiyowan> !in | bening
[07:53] <chilli0> k
[07:53] <chilli0> afl
[07:53] <chilli0> afk*
[07:54] <tiyowan> bening: Oops, sorry.
[07:54] <zwh> hi
[07:54] <sidelil> #join ubuntu-it
[07:54] <histo> bening, what language do they speak there?
[07:54] <tiyowan> chilli0: Now *that* is a brilliant idea. :)
[07:54] <nomad77> !sp |bening
[07:54] <fryguy> woah, debian 1.x was 96, i didn't realize i've been using debian for half my life :/
[07:55] <rathel_> Anyone use Conky? I'm trying to add audacious to it but I can't figure it out, it's just like "${audacious_status}" right? and the same way for the title and time? It's not working for me.
[07:55] <onats> what is the best location to put in downloaded applications like eclipse in the filesystem?
[07:55] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: about the same for red hat 5.0, and i used 5.1 and 5.2, then debian
[07:55] <fryguy> onats: if it's a binary distribution the correct location is /opt
[07:56] <onats> fryguy, ok thanks
[07:56] <jim_p> rathel_, give me a sec to look it up
[07:56] <fryguy> onats: eclipse is in repository though so probably use that
[07:56] <onats> fryguy, but the eclipse version in the repository is just 3.2
[07:56] <onats> i got the ganymede version
[07:56] <sky_> bye guys
[07:56] <sky_> i must go away <<
[07:57] <solid_liq> !ping
[07:57] <fryguy> onats: just learn a real text editor :/
[07:57] <rathel_> jim_p, Okay.
[07:58] <onats> fryguy, well i like all the integrated features of an ide...checkouts, check ins.. code complete, etc.
[07:58] <fryguy> onats: my text editor does all of that
[07:58] <onats> code completion?
[07:58] <fryguy> yes
[07:59] <onats> what text editor do you use?
[07:59] <tiyowan> text editors > !off-topic
[07:59] <fryguy> vim
[07:59] <onats> it does not
[07:59] <fryguy> onats: it does to
[07:59] <onats> does not
[07:59] <tiyowan> !off-topic
[07:59] <onetinsoldier> lol
[07:59] <bazhang> please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:59] <fryguy> onats: i've been using vim for 8 years, I'm PRETTY SURE i know what it is capable of
[07:59] <tiyowan> Which part of off-topic is hard to understand?
[07:59] <n2diy> anybody familiar with adding syntac highlighting to gedit?
[07:59] <bazhang> fryguy, onats please
[08:00] <jim_p> rathel_, in conky manual page it says that audacious_title is followed by a number that shows the max characters it can contain
[08:00] <onats> ok sorry
[08:00] <jim_p> rathel_, but it does not work for me
[08:01] <fryguy> would asking about conky configuration be as off topic about talking about vim configuration?
[08:01] <rathel_> jim_p, Yeah, but the syntax is just ${audacious_status} right? Because it's not working for me.
[08:01] <tiyowan> fryguy: Yes. There is a #conky channel.
[08:01] <fryguy> tiyowan: so why direct offtopic messages to me and not to rathel_
[08:02] <Arrowhead212002> WOW!!!!
[08:02] <jim_p> rathel_, i put ${audacious_title 60} and no results. i guess it may need to be compiled with the audacious option enabled
[08:02] <d6chung> Hi, in a HAL policy file (.fdi), where can I get a list of "key" values? My Googling skills seem to suck today...
[08:02] <tiyowan> fryguy: Excellent point.
[08:02] <rathel_> jim_p, Yeah I'm kind of thinking that also.
[08:02] <tiyowan> rathel_: For conkey-related questions, please go to #conky
[08:02] <fryguy> tiyowan: if you are going to choose to be an enforcer of rules, it would be appreciated if you actually enforced them correctly
[08:02] <d6chung> While I'm at it, if anyone knows, where can I get a list of what PS3 button links to what "MapButton#"?
[08:02] <jim_p> rathel_, let me look for compiling options
[08:03] <ehama> Hi. Any way to prevent Firefox from going fullscreen? It began after updating my system yesterday.
[08:03] <fryguy> tiyowan: it makes about 80% of this channel be offtopic, but nevertheless
[08:03] <chilli0> ehama:  try F11
[08:03] <bazhang> fryguy, please stop
[08:03] <rathel_> jim_p, How do you find the compiled options anyways for packages you download through apt?
[08:03] <georgeaf> is it possible to install deb packages on a persistent live usb ?
[08:04] <fryguy> ehama: ask in #firefox about how to configure it to prevent window resizing
[08:04] <ehama> okay thanks.
[08:04] <jim_p> rathel_, from gentoo's wiki or in the apps url i guess
[08:04] <tiyowan> fryguy: "does to, does not" seems rather childlish doesn't it? And if you've got a problem with me personally, then that is your prerogative.
[08:04] <bazhang> tiyowan, you too please
[08:05] <histo> ehama, just close it when its not fullscreen
[08:05] <tiyowan> bazhang: Apologies.
[08:05] <jim_p> rathel_, let me look about the compiles options in the repo
[08:05] <georgeaf> hi everyone, is it possible to install deb packages on a persistent live usb ?
[08:06] <histo> georgeaf, yes it should act just like its installed locally
[08:06] <ehama> histo, its not when I start firefox. It is when I click links and it prevents me to see the task bar and also the close-resize-minimize buttons are also hidden.
[08:06] <_THEGOD__> Refilling gas tanks is "a giant problem, not just for HP, but for everybody in the automotive business," said Gary Peterson, an analyst with GAP Intelligence. "I would say at least 10 to 15 percent of all consumables purchases are uses gas stations. That's a huge chunk of profit taken away from HP and all the other automotive companies."
[08:06] <_THEGOD__> http://news.cnet.com/HP-sues-firms-that-refill-ink-cartridges/2100-1041_3-5643687.html
[08:06] <onats> fryguy, is this correct:  plink -ssh -X -C onats@10.0.1.138 /opt/eclipse/eclipse
[08:06] <histo> ehama, hit F11 or try holding alt and moving the window so You can access those buttons
[08:07] <fryguy> onats: using plink is offtopic for this channel, go try asking in ##linux
[08:07] <georgeaf> but they say i can't do system-related upgrades
[08:07] <onats> ok
[08:07] <raylu> ehama: f11?
[08:07] <saivi> exit
[08:08] <onetinsoldier> pffft
[08:08] <onetinsoldier> error404notfound: where in the world are you?
[08:09] <raylu> onetinsoldier: just hold on. he's gotta catch 'em all
[08:09] <ehama> raylu, here is the screenshot. Is it normal? http://i42.tinypic.com/zk0npy.png
[08:09] <jim_p> rathel_, bad news               ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-xft --enable-mpd --enable-double-buffer  --enable-proc-uptime --enable-seti --enable-wlan --enable-rss --enable-smapi
[08:09] <onetinsoldier> raylu: rofl! you mean all those 404 errors? omg
[08:09] <rathel_> jim_p, That's why!
[08:09] <jim_p> rathel_, it is compiled to use mpd that NO ONE is using, but not audacious!
[08:10] <net> thyj
[08:10] <net> hi
[08:10] <raylu> ehama: the only problem i see there is that the title bar is being covered by your top panel
[08:10] <net> hi
[08:10] <raylu> ehama: do you have a keyboard shortcut for move/resize?
[08:10] <onetinsoldier> net: hello
[08:10] <raylu> ehama: try holding down alt and draggin it
[08:10] <georgeaf> do they mean major upgrades ?
[08:10] <georgeaf> like upgrading libc or something like that ?
[08:10] <jim_p> rathel_, you can use apt-source to get the source and make a .deb, change the options and compile
[08:11] <net> knjo
[08:11] <net> okjojo
[08:11] <net> oiiio
[08:11] <net> oko
[08:11] <net> oi
[08:11] <FloodBot3> net: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:11] <ehama> raylu, yes when I drag I can see them.
[08:11] <raylu> ehama: ...
[08:11] <raylu> ehama: ok, so make it smaller now
[08:11] <ehama> raylu, but I want a premenant solution. It is always ike this when I start firefox.
[08:12] <rob> I'm trying to edit my users and groups but the "unlock" button is grayed out... how can i fix it?
[08:12] <raylu> ehama: it should remember it's position...you could also just maximize it
[08:12] <raylu> rob: what change do you want to make?
[08:12] <rathel_> jim_p, Yeah I'm going to. :)
[08:12] <madduck> I have a 8.10 machine here, but telling it to upgrade the system doesn't do anything anymore, and I also cannot start the apt sources list configuration, or the synaptic package manager from the admin menu.
[08:12] <ehama> raylu, yes it should. But it doesn't.
[08:12] <madduck> add/remove does work
[08:13] <rob> well id like to add or remove users for starter
[08:13] <rob> s
[08:13] <rob> but i cant do anything
[08:13] <rob> its all grayed
[08:13] <ehama> raylu, I think I'll just try reinstalling.
[08:13] <raylu> ehama: strange. no idea, sorry
[08:13] <madduck> i can select the items and then there's some busy cursor and then it stops and nothing opened
[08:13] <onetinsoldier> ehama: ok, close firefox. go to your home directory...  mv .mozilla .mozilla-fullscreen  ..try firefox again
[08:13] <raylu> madduck: sudo aptitude isntall
[08:13] <ehama> onetinsoldier, trying now. thanks.
[08:14] <jim_p> rathel_, in case you look for the audacious option its        --enable-audacious=yes|no|legacy
[08:14] <onetinsoldier> ehama: ok, good luck
[08:14] <raylu> *install
[08:14] <madduck> raylu: i know i can use the command line, but I want to fix the gui tools as this is a machine I am handing over to someone who does not want the CLI
[08:14]  * cviorel cviorel
[08:14] <raylu> madduck: right... running that may show what's wrong, though
[08:14] <rob> since the unlock is grayed its not allowing me to edit the users and this is the admin user
[08:14] <madduck> raylu: ok, trying
[08:15] <ehama> onetinsoldier, that helped. thanks again all.
[08:15] <raylu>  little does ehama know, all his preferences are now gone
[08:15] <onetinsoldier> ehama: you're welcome! :-)
[08:16] <raylu> is this like the 20th time in the last 24 hrs we've suggested getting rid of .mozilla? methinks something is wrong here
[08:16] <ehama> raylu, yes but it was a recent install, so doesn't bother me that much.
[08:16] <onetinsoldier> raylu: if he did what i said... they aren't toally blown away forever
[08:16] <madduck> raylu: aptitude performs fine
[08:17] <madduck> update-manager also pretends it works fine, i click on check and it says i am up to date
[08:17] <raylu> madduck: o.0. running aptitude install didn't show any messages?
[08:17] <madduck> which aptitude doesn't believe, it suggests 100+ upgrades
[08:17] <madduck> raylu: no.
[08:17] <madduck> raylu: well, nothing extra-ordinary
[08:17] <rathel_> I got conky source through apt-get now where is it stored? lol
[08:17] <wiehan> ikonia: hey mate, just quickly need to ask/say something
[08:17] <raylu> madduck: strange. either reinstall synaptic or show me the output of "sudo aptitude install"
[08:17] <tiyowan> madduck: Wild guess. Your software sources are ok right?
[08:18] <raylu> rathel_: package name?
[08:18] <raylu> tiyowan: aptitude thinks so
[08:18] <rob> ** (users-admin:869): CRITICAL **: Unable to lookup session information for process '869'
[08:18] <rob> what i get when i sudo users-admin
[08:18] <onetinsoldier> rathel_: what command did you use to get it? it's probably right under your nose
[08:18] <madduck> tiyowan: yes, aptitude performs just fine on the command line
[08:18] <madduck> this is the GUI broken
[08:18] <d6chung> Never mind, jstest lets me find this out.
[08:18] <Jordan_U> rob, Do not run GUI apps with sudo!
[08:18] <madduck> raylu: okay, can I also reinstall update-manager?
[08:18] <rathel_> onetinsoldier, apt-get source conky
[08:18] <omshanti> ok i am having a big problem when i try to save with gedit or gimp or openoffice it crashes instead of saving what do i do
[08:18] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | rob
[08:19] <rob> ** (users-admin:856): CRITICAL **: Unable to find session for cookie <-- without sudo
[08:19] <onetinsoldier> rathel_: do look in the dir where you did the command
[08:19] <raylu> madduck: sure :D
[08:19] <rathel_> onetinsoldier, Wow.. lol I thought it would be /usr/src or something..
[08:20] <rob> its still grayed even WITH sudo... why?
[08:20] <raylu> omshanti: all 3? where are you saving to?
[08:20] <onetinsoldier> rathel_: i keep stuff in /usr/src myself usually. you can move it there now if you prefer
[08:20] <omshanti> well i just click save and it crashes, i don't try to save it
[08:20] <tiyowan> omshanti: You do have enough space right?
[08:20] <raylu> rob: adding and removing can be done with "adduser" and "deluser"
[08:20] <madduck> raylu: http://1t2.us/294827
[08:20] <omshanti> how do i check tiyowan?
[08:21]  * omshanti opens up a terminal
[08:21] <rob> it still bugs me that it's grayed out and it never used to be
[08:21] <tiyowan> omshanti: df
[08:21] <rob> so why start now
[08:21] <omshanti> i have plenty of space it seems
[08:21] <bening> histo, indonesian ofcourse
[08:22] <raylu> madduck: ah, german :D. since i see that you're root, i get the feeling some per-user configurations are screwed up
[08:22] <omshanti> only 11% used on /dev/sda1
[08:22] <virgo1143> omshanti..nice nick
[08:22] <raylu> madduck: though, i don't know where synaptic stores configurations
[08:22] <raylu> madduck: i'd look for files starting with . in /root and ~/
[08:22] <tiyowan> omshanti: Strange problem.
[08:22] <wubi> hi
[08:23] <raylu> omshanti: again, where are you saving to?
[08:23] <wubi> can anyone help me? i have a strange problem?
[08:23] <madduck> raylu: mv .update-manager-core/ .update-notifier/ .synaptic/ /tmp
[08:23] <madduck> let's see... :)
[08:23] <raylu> !anyone | subir
[08:23] <raylu> asdf.
[08:23] <raylu> !anyone | wubi
[08:23] <jim_p> madduck, its in /root/.synaptic
[08:24] <wubi> oh sorry bout that raylu
[08:24] <omshanti> raylu, i dunno it crashes when i click save
[08:24] <omshanti> virgo1143, thanks
[08:24] <virgo1143> :)
[08:24] <wubi> anyway, my problem is this: i run ff3 from the terminal. and then after i closed ff3 i saw some strange error messages. can i paste them here?
[08:25] <wiehan> hi... yesterday I set up a RAID with excellent help from ikonia in this channel.. it 'worked' or rather seemed to work... The idea was to span a partition over a 160gb and a 250gb so as to use the combined capacity for one folder. Afterwards I started copying files to it and roughly at 160gb (the capacity of the smaller HD) it stopped and said drive was full... I have NO idea how to troubleshoot this, or how to fix this... I don't know
[08:25] <wiehan> where to begin - please please help....
[08:25] <tiyowan> !pastebin | wubi
[08:25] <onetinsoldier> wubi: you should use a pastebin
[08:25] <c0l2e> in udev rules.. how can I create a RUN += which will wait till the script in run to be finished ??
[08:25] <wubi> ok onetinsoldier and tiyowan
[08:25] <Terralthra> sigh
[08:25] <Terralthra> gnome installed
[08:25] <Terralthra> boot into gnome
[08:25] <Terralthra> activate restricted nvidia driver
[08:25] <Terralthra> reboot
[08:25] <FloodBot3> Terralthra: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:25] <c0l2e> I've created a udev rules.. but I suspect the it run multiple times
[08:26] <raylu> wiehan: you'll have to give us some details about your configuration
[08:26] <Terralthra> And when it boots, black screen.
[08:26] <rob> i cant change the time as well.... thats grayed out too
[08:27] <tiyowan> rob: How man users do you see btw?
[08:27] <wubi> tiyowan onetinsoldier raylu: anyway here is the error message. i am concerned about the 2nd to the last line
[08:27] <madduck> raylu, jim_p: removing those did not fix the problem.
[08:27] <wiehan> raylu: it is a RAID 0 configration, and as I said, the purpose was to make them 1 partition... at the moement the "RAID" partition is mounted as /dev/md1
[08:27] <madduck> after aptitude update, update-notifier tells me about 100+ updates
[08:27] <omshanti> tiyowan, when i use emacs it works
[08:27] <madduck> but I can't: 1. start synaptic, 2. let update-manager upgrade them, 3. edit sources.list graphically
[08:27] <wubi> raylu tiyowan onetinsoldier: it says in the 2nd to the last line "Saving 1/1 dirty records of Inbox" - What does that mean?
[08:27] <madduck> in fact, it seems as if downloading sources does not work
[08:27] <raylu> madduck: i wonder what happens if you run synaptic in a terminal
[08:27] <onetinsoldier> wubi: we need the pastebin url
[08:28] <wubi> oh right
[08:28] <madduck> raylu: should i tell you? :)
[08:28] <madduck> (synaptic:11131): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[08:28] <madduck> *GRIN*
[08:28] <wubi> sorry bout that: raylu onetinsoldier tiyowan http://paste.ubuntu.com/88370/
[08:28] <raylu> madduck: um...?
[08:28] <raylu> madduck: why isn't display set?
[08:28] <madduck> sec, fixing
[08:28] <madduck> i am using ssh
[08:28] <rob> i see... 4 users
[08:28] <raylu> madduck: nice
[08:28] <rob> 2 i made, the one im on now, and root
[08:29] <madduck> alright, i can start synaptic as user
[08:29] <onetinsoldier> wubi: i'm not really sure. i'mnot really much of a 'mail' guy
[08:29] <rob> they're all grayed except the one im on now, i can click properties on it and that's all
[08:29] <madduck> raylu: http://1t2.us/294846
[08:29] <rob> everything else isnt availible
[08:29] <Cider> ...
[08:29] <raylu> madduck: er, sudo/gksu?
[08:30] <wubi> onetinsoldier: me too thats the strange part. i wasnt running evolution or any mail client.
[08:30] <raylu> rob: oh...
[08:30] <raylu> rob: what's the output of groups?
[08:30] <rob> rob adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin admin sambashare
[08:30] <wubi> onetinsoldier: what does it mean "dirty records" - i mean can anybody see my "dirty" emails?
[08:30] <Appiah> I'm running ubuntu 8.10 and I have to modprobe pcnet32 each time I boot , I put it in /etc/modules but it still wont load and I'm without network
[08:30] <k21> hello, can anybody give me an invite to demonoid.com
[08:30] <raylu> rob: ok, nevermind. i was thinking that you couldn't unlock because you weren't a part of admin
[08:31] <raylu> rob: was that the output for the same user that tried to use those tools?
[08:31] <wiehan> raylu: you think you can help me?
[08:31] <tiyowan> wubi: Can't find anything about it on the forums.
[08:31] <rob> yeah
[08:31] <raylu> wiehan: over my head :P
[08:31] <madduck> raylu: no errors on start as root
[08:31] <raylu> rob: could you show me your /etc/sudoers file?
[08:31] <onetinsoldier> wubi: hmm, when installing or anything did you ask to 'import' anything? have you configured any newsgroup or usenet?
[08:31] <raylu> madduck: and when you try to do anything?
[08:31] <k21> hello, can anybody give me an invite to demonoid.com
[08:31] <raylu> k21: why are you asking here?
[08:32] <wubi> tiyowan: no newsgroup, no usenet, did not import anything, i hate email clients too - thats why i dont run em. its a pretty strange error message
[08:32] <rob> one second....
[08:32] <k21> if anyone has account plz send me an invite
[08:32] <_THEGOD__> The only thing authentic about HP products is
[08:32] <_THEGOD__> the label on the case.
[08:32] <_THEGOD__> I have sworn to never buy a product from HP ever
[08:32] <_THEGOD__> again !
[08:32] <FloodBot3> _THEGOD__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:32] <wubi> onetinsoldier: tiyowan: no newsgroup, no usenet, did not import anything, i hate email clients too - thats why i dont run em. its a pretty strange error messag
[08:33] <clearzen> k21: Go somewhere else to get l33t warez
[08:33] <raylu> firefox does strange things? no wai.
[08:33] <madduck> raylu: works fine...
[08:33] <tiyowan> onetinsoldier: Perhaps suggest the mv .mozilla fix? :)
[08:33] <rob> http://pastebin.com/m25105f25
[08:33] <raylu> madduck: o.0?
[08:33] <madduck> yeah... can't say i am impressed either...
[08:33] <onetinsoldier> wubi: it's not a very harmful or worrisome message. but yeah, i can see how it would make you wonder. no i have no idea
[08:33] <k21> clearzen: wats that??
[08:33] <onetinsoldier> tiyowan: perhaps, but i have my doubts that would fix this one
[08:34] <raylu> madduck: lol
[08:34] <Terralthra> CarIFK, are you still around?
[08:34] <wubi> onetinsolder raylu: thanks guys i just found the error message strange. maybe it is firefox relted
[08:34] <onetinsoldier> wubi: are you using wubi? or is this under a real ubuntu install?
[08:34] <Subdolus> I can't run two things that use audio at the same time... eg: a voip softphone and movie player, because they're using the same device (I gather)
[08:34] <Subdolus> Is it possible to get two working?
[08:34] <clearzen> k21: this channel support FREE software not piracy. get it? Great
[08:34] <raylu> !search mux
[08:35] <wubi> onetinsoldier: real ubuntu alternative install, just did it a few hours ago.
[08:35] <bening> any virus in ubuntu?
[08:35] <histo> !sound | Subdolus
[08:35] <tiyowan> !virus | bening
[08:35] <histo> bening, no
[08:35] <rob> the name i'm currently logged on is not in that file... does that matter?
[08:36] <raylu> rob: no, as long as you're part of the admin group
[08:36] <Mal3ko> !openssh | Mal3ko
[08:36] <onetinsoldier> wubi: ok.. i'll suggest what i suggested to someone else as a fix to their FF3 problem, but i have my doubts this will stop this message
[08:36] <raylu> o.0?
[08:36] <scientes> bbhow do i fix nfs?
[08:36] <rob> whys it being stubborn
[08:36] <scientes> no its broken
[08:36] <raylu> lol!
[08:36] <raylu> !who | rob
[08:36] <scientes> i have nfs as root and it gets to the log in
[08:36] <wubi> onetinsoldier: moving the .mozilla folder? after googling i think its an ff3 bug
[08:37] <scientes> and then it just doesnt ask for a password
[08:37] <rob> ubuntu's users and groups.
[08:37] <onetinsoldier> wubi: yes. moving the .mozilla was going to be my suggestion
[08:37] <Cider> !tab
[08:37] <raylu> scientes: by default, you're not allowed to access nfs partitions as root, i believe
[08:37] <scientes> its a known bug from about a year ago and i gues it still ahsnt been fixed
[08:37] <scientes> no i have no_squash_root
[08:37] <scientes> it worked when i first installed
[08:37] <raylu> oh
[08:38] <scientes> and then i installed a desktop sheel and it stopped working
[08:38] <j3nal> how to use madwifi?
[08:38] <wubi> onetinsoldier: thanks ill try that too. im filing a bug for ff3 in mozilla...
[08:38] <Terralthra> So, where can I look for information about the nvidia glx96 drivers causing a black screen after being installed using the restricted drivers manager?
[08:38] <onetinsoldier> wubi: ok, good luck
[08:38] <raylu> !my | j3nal
[08:38] <tiyowan> !nvidia
[08:39] <raylu> Terralthra: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:39] <histo> !wifi > j3nal
[08:39] <PeoplesAdvocate> I was wondering if anyone knows of a website on how to create web templates on GIMP?
[08:40] <histo> PeoplesAdvocate, google
[08:40] <PeoplesAdvocate> tried
[08:40] <PeoplesAdvocate> find alot of photoshop crap
[08:40] <histo> PeoplesAdvocate, http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q=gimp+web+template+tutorial&btnG=Google+Search&aq=0&oq=gimp+web+template
[08:40] <bullgard4> /var/backups/ includes on my Ubuntu 8.04.1 computer the files aptitude.pkgstates.0, aptitude.pkgstates.1.gz und aptitude.pkgstates.2.gz dated October 2007. Is this not data garbage which I can delete because I have a file dpkg.status.0 dated 12 December 2008 also?
[08:40] <raylu> PeoplesAdvocate: also, -photoshop
[08:40] <madduck> after removing the files and restarting, I managed to download the new package lists once, but now it fails again, or rather just skips the downloading of indices
[08:41] <madduck> it goes right to the "scanning package indices" progress bar
[08:41] <madduck> raylu: ^
[08:41] <Terralthra> well, the nvidia driver is loaded, and I can't find an error, but all ctrl-alt-f7 shows is a black screen
[08:41] <madduck> when i tell it to install th updates, it just goes busy for 5 seconds and then returns to normal cursor without doing anything
[08:41] <raylu> madduck: i'm out of ideas. maybe your sources.list is formatted strangely...
[08:41] <raylu> madduck: but it's a stretch
[08:41] <wubi> PeoplesAdvocate: www.gimp.org/tutorials/
[08:41] <PeoplesAdvocate> I found some, but they dont specify on how to save it to use as a template on my website, im new to this so sorry if I make yall mad.
[08:42] <rob> im about to give up on getting the button ungrayed -_-
[08:42] <raylu> Terralthra: is gdm/X running?
[08:42] <raylu> PeoplesAdvocate: save it to use as a template?
[08:42] <Vinceman> but wine is only able to run one executable, not an entire game which consists of more than one file
[08:42] <wubi> PeoplesAdvocate: heres more http://www.google.com/search?q=gimp+tutorials&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[08:42] <raylu> Vinceman: no...?
[08:42] <tiyowan> madduck: Care to paste your sources.list?
[08:42] <Vinceman> that's desastrous!
[08:42] <madduck> raylu: nope... or else aptitude wouldn't like it either...
[08:42] <scientes> i was tryng to try out ubuntu-mobile but ubuntu just has to break nfs so i coannot
[08:42] <Vinceman> but I saw the screenshots!
[08:43] <Terralthra> raylu: yes. I have two gdm processes running
[08:43] <raylu> madduck: oh...synaptic uses aptitude as it's "back"end, doesn't it?
[08:43] <raylu> Terralthra: er...?
[08:43] <madduck> tiyowan: http://1t2.us/294903
[08:43] <raylu> Terralthra: kill 'em and run it again
[08:43] <|thunder> Terralthra; , did you change the driver=nv to driver-nvidia in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[08:43] <wiehan> hi... yesterday I set up a RAID with excellent help from ikonia in this channel.. it 'worked' or rather seemed to work... The idea was to span a partition over a 160gb and a 250gb so as to use the combined capacity for one folder. Afterwards I started copying files to it and roughly at 160gb (the capacity of the smaller HD) it stopped and said drive was full... I have NO idea how to troubleshoot this, or how to fix this... I don't know
[08:43] <madduck> raylu: at least they both use APT for the actual work
[08:43] <wiehan> where to begin - please please help....
[08:43] <minus18_pundit> i'm having problem with my internet speed, while i i do have a 10-15kbps from vuze, i cant browse most websites
[08:44] <onetinsoldier> rob: hello. i might have an idea, but it's probably a no go for one reason or another
[08:44] <|thunder> minus18_pundit; i have same prob. are you wireless ?
[08:44] <rob> well ill try anything
[08:44] <rob> -_-
[08:44] <minus18_pundit> yes
[08:44] <Vinceman> raylu is the game warcraft such a game or a single file game?
[08:44] <Terralthra> thunder: it already says Driver      "nvidia" in xorg.conf
[08:44] <raylu> madduck: since you've reinstalled synaptic already, maybe just doing the updates would fix something
[08:44] <KillerOrca> gpaterted liveCD mreuses to cy my ubunt partition onto a nre HD anyoen have any alternatives?
[08:44] <|thunder> minus18_pundit; try turning the number of simultanious connections down.
[08:44] <raylu> madduck: but atm, i'm just very confused
[08:44] <onetinsoldier> rob: i know the feeling. can you open stuff up in System --> Administration?
[08:44] <minus18_pundit> i tried pausing vuze
[08:44] <raylu> Vinceman: it... doesn't matter
[08:44] <rob> like... anything?
[08:44] <madduck> raylu: thanks for your help regardless.
[08:44] <madduck> I will try that
[08:44] <Vinceman> raylu?
[08:44] <tiyowan> madduck: Your sources.list seems to be fine.
[08:44] <raylu> Vinceman: the number of files involved has nothing to do with it. but winehq says that warcraft iii runs fine in wine
[08:45] <c0l2e> in udev rules.... what is the use of "+=" in RUN ??
[08:45] <|thunder> Terralthra; i will pastebin my xorg.conf if it helps
[08:45] <raylu> Vinceman: wine will load files as the exe tells it to
[08:45] <rob> everything except time and date.. those are grayed out too
[08:45] <rob> synaptic works fine
[08:45] <minus18_pundit> i even stopped vuze, that didn't help me
[08:45] <onetinsoldier> rob: i System --> Administration -> Authorizations
[08:45] <rob> oh, and that.. thats also grayed
[08:45] <madduck> it's a shame that Ubuntu has turned into the same sort of confusing GUI that we know from proprietary OS: absent or useless error messages, complex to the point where even I don't understand it anymore. and i am a debian developer after all...
[08:45] <raylu> Terralthra: have you killed them yet?
[08:45] <madduck> at least the community support is inifinitely better! :)
[08:45] <|thunder> Terralthra; here is mine http://pastebin.com/m59b2f4a3  i have nvidia 7200
[08:45] <Terralthra> raylu: should I kill x as well?
[08:46] <Terralthra> thunder: my card is much older
[08:46] <|thunder> ohh,..  Did you restart X ?
[08:46] <dennister> i can't believe I did this :(
[08:46] <raylu> madduck: i meant to say, scandisk, virus scan, reboot, reboot, reboot, reboot
[08:46] <MM2> duh! I installed upgrades to server and my /boot partition got full (236MB) What files I can remove from /boot partition?
[08:46] <KillerOrca> gpaterted liveCD refuses to copy my ubuntu partition onto a new HD anyone have any alternatives?
[08:46] <rob> the modify button inside authorizations is grayed so i cant make changes
[08:46] <madduck> raylu: :)
[08:47] <onetinsoldier> rob: roger.. it's a no-go
[08:47] <Terralthra> Raylu: killed them all
[08:47] <minus18_pundit> lthunder: i even stopped vuze, that didn't help me
[08:47] <dennister> i installed grub onto a usb stick instead of the hard drive mbr
[08:47] <raylu> Terralthra: ok, startx
[08:47] <raylu> Terralthra: (gdm is fine too, if you ran that)
[08:47] <onetinsoldier> rob: might check your sudoers file...
[08:47] <rob> i thought about changing freedesktop - systemtoolbackends - manage system configuration but it wouldnt let me
[08:47] <Terralthra> raylu: some stuff flashed on screen, then black screened
[08:47] <|thunder> minus18_pundit; I feel ya, I have to do a 'sudo ifdown wlan0' then 'sudo ifup wlan0' to get it back
[08:47] <raylu> onetinsoldier: http://pastebin.com/m25105f25
[08:48] <dennister> and on the winblows drive, for some strange reason, mouse didn't load at startup
[08:48] <raylu> Terralthra: ok, paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:48] <rob> onetinsoldier, http://pastebin.com/m25105f25
[08:48] <rob> that's it
[08:48] <tiyowan> rob: Have you tried signing in as another admin user? If that's possible.
[08:48] <raylu> |thunder: dhclient
[08:48] <rob> same
[08:48] <Terralthra> one moment, raylu
[08:48] <onetinsoldier> rob and raylu: roger that :-(
[08:48] <raylu> dennister: i've done that too (installing grub on the wrong device)
[08:48] <|thunder> raylu; whats that for ?
[08:49] <raylu> |thunder: saving you time. dhclient wlan0 should work in place of ifdown/up wlan0
[08:49] <rob> its just 1 button but why is it so gd annoying to me that it's grayed out?
[08:49] <|thunder> raylu; ohh, thanks
[08:49] <minus18_pundit> lthunder: oh sorry, its not wlan, its mobile dial-up connection
[08:49] <omshanti> hooray!
[08:49] <dennister> raylu: so how do you get it from wrong place onto right place?
[08:49] <raylu> dennister: grub-install
[08:50] <tiyowan> dennister: grub-install.
[08:50] <Terralthra> raylu: http://pastebin.com/f1d5fd35b
[08:50] <|thunder> raylu; so, dhclient wlan0 is the same as down/up ?
[08:51] <dennister> ok, but how do i get into my root partition where the grub installer resides?
[08:51] <rob> ive browsed a bunch of forums and asked a bunch of people but nobody knows wtf it's doing it
[08:51] <onetinsoldier> rob: i can tell you right now, i'd be the same way. it would drive me nuts unto the ends of the earth
[08:52] <raylu> Terralthra: i thnk something is wrong with your monitor configurations
[08:52] <recon1025> is there anyway for me to make a realtime backup of a VMI image onto two different drivers by only using software?
[08:52] <raylu> Terralthra: if x is still running, does "xrandr" show anything? also, show me /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:52] <recon1025> yeah very specific request here... =/
[08:52] <raylu> |thunder: no, but it'll do what you want
[08:52] <tiyowan> dennister: Are you using the LiveCD right now?
[08:52] <|thunder> that happened to me, make sure there is no ' (single quote) in the name of your monitor
[08:52] <Terralthra> raylu: xrandr: Can't open display
[08:52] <recon1025> by realtime backup i mean everytime i modify the .vmi in 1 place it will be automatically modified in another place
[08:53] <tiyowan> raylu: Terralthra's file shows a problem with the dpi of the monitor...maybe that'll help?
[08:53] <raylu> Terralthra: there's a way to set the display for that command. try xrandr --help, set it to :0
[08:53] <Terralthra> raylu: http://pastebin.com/f75428e4
[08:53] <raylu> tiyowan: yes, but i have little idea what i'm doing
[08:53] <rob> would running samba with the same login affect gnome's users and groups?
[08:53] <dennister> tiyowan: nope...on a different machine...my own
[08:53] <rob> do you think samba is what grayed it out?
[08:53] <raylu> Terralthra: you forgot a letter in there; found it, though
[08:53] <dennister> but i've got one handy
[08:54] <rob> because earlier today i setup my network and for the user & pass i used this logon
[08:54] <Terralthra> sorry >.>
[08:54] <raylu> recon1025: symlink to an nfs/sshfs share?
[08:54] <Terralthra> can't get find the option to set display
[08:54] <darkrubicant> agh help please
[08:54] <recon1025> symlink? that's like a shortcut isnt it?
[08:54] <tiyowan> dennister: Okay. What you need to do is to boot off the LiveCD, then go to a terminal, then type grub-install /dev/X where X is where you want to install it.
[08:55] <tiyowan> Terralthra: What nvidia card do you have?
[08:55] <onetinsoldier> dangit, that error404notfound guy must have gone to bed. i wanted to know if my 'experimental' command was going to work for him
[08:55] <darkrubicant> how do I delete the MBR of my other hard-drive so I can get the windows xp professional cd to stop blue screening
[08:55] <recon1025> its my understanding that symlink is simply a reference to a file
[08:55] <tiyowan> darkrubicant: Is Windows installed on that drive?
[08:55] <darkrubicant> I've tried testdisk, and ms-sys neither seem to be doing the job
[08:55] <tiyowan> recon1025: Yes. Sort of.
[08:55] <rob> oh well i give up for tonight.. ill be back tomorrow.. thanks for the help
[08:55] <Terralthra> tiyowan: GeForce4Go
[08:55] <darkrubicant> Windows was installed, I've completely formatted it, but the MBR seems to be persistent.
[08:55] <rob> ttyl, and goodnight all
[08:56] <dennister> tiyowan: ah, ok...thx
[08:56] <recon1025> well tiyowan that wont do. im looking for some type of command line utility for linux that can emulate a RAID1 for simply a file or folder
[08:56] <Terralthra> supposed to use the glx 96 driver, if I am correct
[08:56] <darkrubicant> for instance, the grub loader on this hard-drive recognizes that that hard-drive still has a MBR that contains windows xp and ubuntu
[08:57] <darkrubicant> even though I've inserted a new MBR for windows with Ms-sys and I've attempted to wipe that drive
[08:57] <tiyowan> darkrubicant: Hmmm....
[08:57] <darkrubicant> It's a western digital 250 gig sata drive, I suppose I have a few questions
[08:57] <darkrubicant> could it have MBR protection?
[08:57] <tiyowan> darkrubicant: So do you want to that wipe the other drive?
[08:57] <darkrubicant> yes
[08:57] <dennister> wierd...all of a sudden mouse from kvm isn't working in winblows either...not to worry, tho...thank god i've got usb mice
[08:57] <raylu> Terralthra: for now, take out the load "type1" line
[08:57] <darkrubicant> I want to wipe the darn thing completely
[08:57] <Terralthra> in the xorg.conf?
[08:58] <tiyowan> darkrubicant: Have you tried formatting it then?
[08:58] <minus18_pundit> is it possible to use two dial-up connections?
[08:58] <darkrubicant> yes I have
[08:58] <cherva> us there a way to add shortcuts to some of the nautilus script files ?
[08:58] <raylu> recon1025: it will do... what do you need it for?
[08:58] <darkrubicant> I've formatted in ext2 and 3, fat32, and ntfs
[08:58] <tiyowan> darkrubicant: What happened then?
[08:58] <raylu> Terralthra: one sec
[08:58] <darkrubicant> Same error everytime I try and the MBR persists.
[08:58] <minus18_pundit> is it possible to use two dial-up connections at the same time?
[08:58] <raylu> recon1025: every time it tries to access the symlink, it'll read the file it's linked to instead
[08:58] <tiyowan> darkrubicant: GRUB is still showing entries for booting?
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> darkrubicant: if you want it clean you can use a disk scrubber
[08:58] <maddox> anyone else having a problem with Firefox lately?
[08:58] <darkrubicant> yes tiyowan
[08:58] <darkrubicant> ActionParsnip1, such as?
[08:59] <darkrubicant> will a disk scrubber kill the MBR as well?
[08:59] <tiyowan> darkrubicant: What error?
[08:59] <ZeiP> Does someone have Nokia E51 and use it with Ubuntu?
[08:59] <darkrubicant> It gives me a blue screen stop error.
[08:59] <dennister> double wierd...usb mouse isn't working either
[08:59] <raylu> Terralthra: sudo X -configure
[08:59] <ActionParsnip1> darkrubicant: there are some on the ultimate boot cd, it alternates bits 5 times per bit to make sure its REALLY hard to recover
[09:00] <darkrubicant> I don't care about being really hard to recover, even writing 0's to the whole damn thing would be fine, including the first 46 bits that contain the MBR
[09:00] <darkrubicant> bytes or bits.
[09:00] <tiyowan> Terralthra: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:00] <Terralthra> ok
[09:00] <tiyowan> Terralthra: Then try startx
[09:00] <Terralthra> which of you should I listen to? =D
[09:00] <maddox> firefox keeps popping up a little thing at the top saying "your browser has been updated and needs to be restarted"...then if you restart it, the same thing happens. over and over again.
[09:00] <onetinsoldier> maddox: a few people have had some problems lately, and there will probably always be some niggles with firefox now and then. you really should just state the real problem and question
[09:00] <raylu> tiyowan: that's likely overkill
[09:00] <ActionParsnip1> darkrubicant: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda (for example replace hda with the name of the drive (not partition))
[09:01] <onetinsoldier> maddox: ok.. you got it out..  cool
[09:01] <tiyowan> darkrubicant: I'd trying using the utilities on the Ultimate Boot CD or Parted Magic or System Rescue etc.
[09:01] <darkrubicant> ActionParsnip1, where can I get my hands on the ultimate boot cd, if possible I can also scrub the hard-drive from the operating system i'm on right now, this system has two hard-drives in it, and the hard-drive i'm currently on has Ubuntu, whereas the other drive had ubuntu and windows xp and now i'm simply trying to get windows xp reinstalled on it.
[09:01] <tiyowan> darkrubicant: Should wipe it out.
[09:01] <maddox> sorry, I thought maybe this was something that was happening to everyone with the new beta or whatever. didn't want to re-type what everyone else had been saying all day
[09:01] <tiyowan> raylu: True.
[09:01] <darkrubicant> I tried Gparted so far, as well as ms-sys and uh
[09:02] <onetinsoldier> maddox: do you have any firefox preferences saved that you really care about right now... like a buck of bookmarks or anything?
[09:02] <onetinsoldier> bunch*
[09:02] <ActionParsnip1> darkrubicant: www.ultimatebootcd.com
[09:02] <maddox> no, I use foxmarks
[09:02] <raylu> :D
[09:02] <ActionParsnip1> darkrubicant: its free and awesome
[09:02] <Terralthra> tiyowan: fatal server error, no screens foudn
[09:02] <Terralthra> found
[09:02] <ActionParsnip1> darkrubicant: its also got a TONNE of other tools too
[09:02] <darkrubicant> nice.
[09:02] <raylu> ActionParsnip1: what's wrong with the dd command you gave?
[09:02] <darkrubicant> well that's the great thing about ubuntu
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> darkrubicant: like drive testing apps from the major hdd manufacturers
[09:03] <raylu> Terralthra: which command?
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> mem testers
[09:03] <Terralthra> the dpkg-reconfigure
[09:03] <raylu> Terralthra: immediately? or...?
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> darkrubicant: all good stuff, everyone should have a copy
[09:03] <onetinsoldier> maddox: ok. i have something you can try. close out firefox, then in your home directory, do...  mv .mozilla .mozilla-restart
[09:03] <darkrubicant> yea but it's not for the newbs, heh if I didn't know a thing or two I'd be in deep water trying to recover from this.
[09:03] <recon1025> tiyowan: In essence, I want any changes to file A to be reflected automatically in realtime to File B
[09:04] <Terralthra> raylu, sorry, the dpkg-reconfigure works, then the startx flashes immediately to fatal server error: no screens found
[09:04] <darkrubicant> I've already tried a bunch of things and so I was at my wits end and decided to ask for help
[09:04] <darkrubicant> you say that this ultimatebootcd will do it though?
[09:04] <raylu> Terralthra: oh. that makes more sense
[09:05] <raylu> Terralthra: show us the new Xorg.0.log and xorg.conf
[09:05] <c0l2e> how can I set delays in udev ??
[09:05] <hischild> This is starting to drive me nuts. Whenever i play a video on my laptop it continuously every few minutes or so stops for a few seconds with an apparent reason. The audio keeps on playing, but the entire desktops freezes.
[09:05] <Terralthra> hang on
[09:05] <maddox> I haven't messed with the command line in awhile. what's the command to move to home directory?
[09:05] <hischild> maddox, type cd
[09:05] <maddox> duh, thank you
[09:05] <raylu> hischild: video player, codec?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> derklempner: yeah, you can scrub the drive clean and it will have no boot sector and no data
[09:05] <darkrubicant> good
[09:06] <darkrubicant> mistab there.
[09:06] <hischild> raylu, tried vlc and totem, with all codecs (gstreamer and w32codecs) installed.
[09:06] <c0l2e> created a udev rules to run a script... but I guess.. its not running properly
[09:06] <darkrubicant> I didn't want to have to burn a cd if not necessary but I suppose creating a cd with a bunch of useful tools wouldn't be a bad idea.
[09:06] <maddox> onetinsoldier - thank you, that appears to have worked
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> hischild: try apt-building it.
[09:06] <raylu> hischild: what codec is the video? or have you tried with a few?
[09:06] <Ranakah> anybody know how to make network adapter realtek rtl8139 to work in ubuntu server? in my desktop work fine, but in server not show it in ifconfig
[09:06] <onetinsoldier> maddox: you're welcome :-)  cheers
[09:07] <gizmo_> is terminal same like shell?
[09:07] <hischild> raylu, _EVERY_ video does it, no exception as to where it comes from, what program i use or which video it is.
[09:07] <raylu> gizmo_: terminals hold shells
[09:07] <hischild> ActionParsnip1, apt-what?
[09:07] <Terralthra> http://pastebinit.com/f5a7f8ff5
[09:07] <raylu> !tw | gizmo_
[09:07] <Terralthra> http://pastebinit.com/f4e3c51e4
[09:07] <derklempner> ActionParsnip1: I didn't ask anything...  LOL
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> hischild: its like emerge for gentoo
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> derklempner: yeah sorry man, i was nattering to darkrubicant
[09:08] <gizmo_> raylu: what you mean hold shell?can i create bnc in terminal?
[09:08] <raylu> gizmo_: bnc = ?
[09:08] <hischild> ActionParsnip1, so pretty much compile from source? don't see the use, since vlc, totem and mplayer do it.
[09:08] <gizmo_> raylu:  psybnc..
[09:08] <derklempner> LOL no worries.  Seems weird since I just happened to glance at IRC for the first time in about 3 hours.
[09:08] <raylu> !tw | Ranakah
[09:08] <Ranakah> lol :D i'm not from taiwan
[09:08] <Ranakah> :)
[09:09] <ActionParsnip1> hischild: but you can optomise some, my amd64 system for some reason goes faster as I compile for amd64 with sse3
[09:09] <raylu> Ranakah: o.0
[09:09] <ActionParsnip1> hischild: seems faster
[09:09] <darkrubicant> you know
[09:09] <gizmo_> raylu: can i create psybnc in terminal..
[09:09] <raylu> gizmo_: no familiarity with that
[09:09] <darkrubicant> if I could get some of these games to work in wine, I wouldn't even go back into xp
[09:09] <gizmo_> i mean like freebsd..u knwo?
[09:09] <darkrubicant> haha
[09:09] <Ranakah> raylu a frend add me this user for psybnc
[09:09] <raylu> gizmo_: ...i know freebsd. i don't know psybnc
[09:09] <gizmo_> raylu:  how come?
[09:09] <darkrubicant> wish wine had better support
[09:09] <raylu> darkrubicant: vmware
[09:10] <raylu> darkrubicant: virtualbox, qemu
[09:10] <darkrubicant> argh
[09:10] <fryguy> gizmo_: by create do you mean compile?  compilation instructions are typically ./configure; make; (as root) make install.  if instructions vary from this they are typically included in a README file in the source code
[09:10] <darkrubicant> I haven't messed with virtualbox/qemu
[09:10] <ActionParsnip1> darkrubicant: its pretty decent, just needs some extra config some times. check appdb for compatibility
[09:10] <gizmo_> i d/l psybnc in terminal..but i dont know how to open after finished d/l
[09:10] <raylu> Terralthra: generating these urls by hand isn't working :P
[09:11] <darkrubicant> appdb for wine or for one of the programs raylu listed?
[09:11] <Ranakah> for psybnc just download it from psybnc.at, then tar xzvf filename.tar.gz, cd psybnc, make and that's it
[09:11] <hischild> ActionParsnip1, i'll do that once, after i get it all working properly ... because the video can't seem to just keep playing properly
[09:11] <Terralthra> well
[09:11] <gizmo_> i d/l psybnc in terminal..but i dont know how to open after finished d/l
[09:11] <Terralthra> The one that's generating them kinda does not have an IRC client
[09:11] <ActionParsnip1> hischild: yea getting that willprobably make it smoother
[09:11] <Terralthra> which one did not work?
[09:11] <fryguy> gizmo_: by create do you mean compile?  compilation instructions are typically ./configure; make; (as root) make install.  if instructions vary from this they are typically included in a README file in the source code
[09:11] <gizmo_> can anyon3 help me to solve this..
[09:11] <bazhang> gizmo_, what is that
[09:12] <raylu> Terralthra: neither. pastebinit.com isn't valid and neither are the urls at pastebin.com
[09:12] <gizmo_> www.psybnc.at
[09:12] <darkrubicant> at any rate, I want to get this ultimatebootcd burnt now I'm excited to try it
[09:12] <darkrubicant> haha I'm such a geek
[09:12] <gizmo_> fryguy:  maybe sumthing like that..
[09:12] <Neaai> gizmo_: psybnc should compile in any system that has a *nix compatible compiler to what I know. Usually you ./configure  then  make then make install, in the majority of the cases.
[09:12] <Terralthra> http://pastebin.com/f5a7f8ff5
[09:12] <hischild> ActionParsnip1, aight i'll give it a go
[09:12] <gizmo_> but i dont know how to open psybnc in terminal afteri d/l
[09:12] <Terralthra> http://pastebin.com/f4e3c51e4
[09:12] <darkrubicant> thanks for the help ActionParsnip1  and the other person who was helping
[09:13] <fryguy> gizmo_: 3 people just gave you almost identical instructions.  are you having a specific issue after following this instructions?
[09:13] <fryguy> these*
[09:13] <scientes> what are the drivers to do keyboard and mouse in X?
[09:13] <scientes> i dont have either in gdm
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> scientes: boot to root console and run: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-all
[09:14] <puff> Anybody know rsync? I'm trying to rsync a directory on one USB drive to another USB drive and I'm a little ambiguous on the directory path arguments.  Currently I have "sudo rsync -rv /media/usb1/backupdir /media/usb2/backupdir"
[09:14] <Ranakah> aaaaa need help with Realtek RTL8139
[09:15] <puff> Do I need to leave the "backupdir"off one of the args?
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> scientes: scrap that: at the login screen hit CTRL+ALT+F2
[09:15] <scientes> the alt stuff works
[09:15] <scientes> could it be that its in single user gmode?
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> scientes: uber, then install the package
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> scientes: its a driver thing from what i can find
[09:15] <Vinceman> err:int:TIMER_TimerProc DOS timer has been stuck for 60 seconds... :-(
[09:16] <Vinceman> when trying to run war2 with wine
[09:16] <onetinsoldier> gizmo_: are you in x windows?
[09:16] <Vinceman> can ne-one help?
[09:16] <darkrubicant> righto, gonna give this a shot, I'll be back if I need more help thanks again!
[09:16] <scientes> still doesnt work, i would do multi, but some wierd nfs bug makes that completely not work
[09:17] <scientes> i was just attempting to try out buuntu mobile
[09:17] <dennister> tiyowan: still having a bit of trouble here...in livecd mode, have sdb1 mounted (mbr of sdb is where I want grub and sdb1 is root partition), but when I type in 'sudo grub-install /dev/sdb' i keep getting told it can't find /boot "not found or not a block device"
[09:17] <raylu> Terralthra: impressive
[09:17] <ActionParsnip1> Vinceman: do you mean independance war 2?
[09:17] <raylu> Terralthra: it loaded the wrong driver and gave it the wrong options
[09:17] <gabrielcz> Hello all...  I have problem on my locales that cant solv.
[09:17] <raylu> Terralthra: this is from dpkg-recon...
[09:17] <raylu> Terralthra: ?
[09:18] <gabrielcz> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[09:18] <gabrielcz> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[09:18] <gabrielcz> 	LANGUAGE = (unset),
[09:18] <gabrielcz> 	LC_ALL = (unset),
[09:18] <gabrielcz> 	LANG = "en_GB.UTF-8"
[09:18] <FloodBot3> gabrielcz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:18] <onetinsoldier> gizmo_: hello? you still here?
[09:18] <dennister> how do i mount a whole physical drive instead of just one or more partitions?
[09:18] <gabrielcz> Sry
[09:18] <Vinceman> Actionparnsip1, no warcraft II
[09:18] <ActionParsnip1> scientes: if you log in in cli mode and startx you will be logged in
[09:18] <Terralthra> raylu: yes
[09:18] <raylu> dennister: that makes no sense
[09:18] <ActionParsnip1> Vinceman: when naming games, please use fullnames
[09:18] <gabrielcz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88398/ <--  anyone can try to help me with my locales?
[09:19] <raylu> Terralthra: ok. sudo X -configure
[09:19] <tiyowan> dennister: Hang on.
[09:19] <dennister> raylu: ok, that doesn't surprise me, as we don't usually mount a whole drive...but i'm still having probs with grub-install
[09:19] <raylu> gabrielcz: need more information
[09:19] <onetinsoldier> gabrielcz: try this command   locale -a
[09:19] <ActionParsnip1> Vinceman: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=592&iTestingId=15183
[09:19] <dennister> k
[09:19] <raylu> dennister: error messages?
[09:20] <scientes> :( still doesnt work
[09:20] <Terralthra> it flashed some stuff, then said "to test the server, run blah blah"
[09:20] <scientes> its in vmware on nfs root if that make any differnce i installed vmware-tools
[09:20] <Terralthra> run it?
[09:21] <dennister> whenever i type in, 'sudo grub-install /dev/sdb' i get error message that it can't find/boot "not found or not a block device"
[09:21] <raylu> dennister: you're on a livecd?
[09:21] <dennister> sdb is the block device...yes, on livecd
[09:21] <ActionParsnip1> dennister: does sudo fdisk -l show an sdb?
[09:21] <raylu> dennister: mount the partition in sdb with /boot
[09:22] <raylu> dennister: and use --root-directory=/media/wherever/you/mounted/sdb/whatever
[09:22] <therobot> does ubuntu install cups by default to manage printers?
[09:22] <gabrielcz> onetinsoldier, I see the locales...  all then utf-8
[09:22] <raylu> therobot: yes
[09:22] <tiyowan> dennister: Have you mounted the partition which contains linux?
[09:22] <fryguy> !grub | dennister, the second link from this might highlight something that you need
[09:22] <therobot> raylu: thanks
[09:22] <raylu> Terralthra: um...sure
[09:22] <raylu> Terralthra: oh, i know what you're talking bout. yes
[09:22] <raylu> *about
[09:23] <onetinsoldier> gabrielcz: yes
[09:23] <Terralthra> mkay
[09:23] <Terralthra> raylu: got a black and white dots screen with the X cursor now
[09:23] <sidelil> Hello everybody, I'm trying to use cron, I'm editing the file with crontab -e and then checking with crontab -l, and it seems to be correct, but it doesn't work. Is there anything else I need to do to have it working? Thanks a lot
[09:23] <raylu> Terralthra: i wonder if this uses the nvidia driver
[09:23] <raylu> Terralthra: did you get an xterm too?
[09:23] <talntid> msg jblack awake  :)
[09:23] <talntid> er
[09:24] <dennister> raylu: yes, i had mounted /dev/sdb1, it's on /media/root, and /boot is in there
[09:24]  * Subdolus punches esko_ in the throat
[09:24] <raylu> dennister: ok, --root-directory=/media/root
[09:24] <ActionParsnip1> !grub | dennister
[09:24] <dennister> fdisk -l is showing sda, sdb, and sdc (the usb stick where i mistakenly installed grub)
[09:24] <bazhang> Subdolus, please stop
[09:24] <gabrielcz> onetinsoldier,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/88401/ <-- that what i see (I have a problem there :))
[09:24] <Terralthra> raylu: nothing but the black and white screen
[09:24] <Terralthra> and the x cursor
[09:25] <Terralthra> I can move the x cursor around, but there's nothing to click
[09:25] <raylu> Terralthra: ok. kill x
[09:25] <raylu> Terralthra: backup your old xorg.conf just in case, replace it with the one x -configure generated
[09:25] <raylu> Terralthra: and start gdm
[09:25] <talntid> hey, my ubuntu is acting up....
[09:25] <ActionParsnip1> talntid: wassup? ask the room and it may reply
[09:25] <talntid> i have 2 feet of snow in my driveway, and i typed.. "sudo go shovel the snow out of my driveway" ....
[09:26] <Neaai> gizmo_: if you got a .tar.gz file as you said for the psybnc, the way to 'open' it would be to go the directory where you downloaded it, and then:   tar -zxvf psybncfile.tar.gz
[09:26] <talntid> i waited a few minutes and looked outside, and it is still there...
[09:26] <Arrowhead212002> i know what you did wrong
[09:26] <talntid> what gives? do i need to use the recovery console?
[09:26] <hischild> ActionParsnip1, i just noticed a new symptom ... i'm rebuilding mplayer while still trying to watch a video. Now that the CPU is under stress, the video has no problems ... it almost seems that the moment the cooling goes on, the video freezes.
[09:26] <Terralthra> raylu: gdm started up and I got the login screen; I logged in, and it is now loading stuff
[09:26] <Arrowhead212002> you forgot the apt-get
[09:26] <Terralthra> raylu: I can not tell yet if the nvidia driver is loaded
[09:26] <bazhang> !ot > talntid
[09:26] <gizmo_> Neaai: already i open..but how to make psybnc?
[09:26] <crimsaq> I'm trying to use sudo on a non-primary account, and it won't let me. any way I can add this account to the sudo'rs list?
[09:26] <fryguy> crimsaq: add the user to the admin group
[09:26] <Neaai> gizmo_: is there any README file there ?
[09:26] <onetinsoldier> gabrielcz: hmm, i'm not sure how to fix this. people with this problem have been having a hard time getting it fixed.  try... cat /etc/default/locale  ..what do you get?
[09:27] <raylu> Terralthra: lsmod | grep nvidia. or, Xorg.0.log to be safe :D
[09:27] <ActionParsnip1> hischild: hmm, maybe you need some tweaked power stuffs. do you have the newest kernel?
[09:27] <gizmo_> Neaai: nope..
[09:27] <crimsaq> fryguy, where do I go about doing that?
[09:27] <fryguy> crimsaq: using the adduser command
[09:27] <Neaai> gizmo_: or any INSTALL file? Those files have all the instructions you'd  need.
[09:27] <hischild> ActionParsnip1, as always i do, with a fully updated system. Power savings work fine, battery lasts longer then on windows.
[09:28] <Terralthra> raylu: http://pastebin.com/f1056194a
[09:28] <raylu> dennister: any progress with grub-install?
[09:28] <dennister> ok guys...it looks like I have to fix my device map to remove the usb stick
[09:28] <ActionParsnip1> hischild: maybe the longer lasting is affecting playback
[09:28] <gizmo_> bash: /server: No such file or directory
[09:28] <gizmo_> <--what is this mean?
[09:28] <ActionParsnip1> hischild: you could give mplayer a lower nice value
[09:28] <raylu> Terralthra: sigh. it used the nv driver
[09:28] <dennister> raylu: that's what terminal told me to do after i typed in 'sudo grub-install /dev/sdb --root-directory=/media/root
[09:28] <Terralthra> =[
[09:29] <Neaai> gizmo_: that there is no /server directory
[09:29] <dennister> so it makes sense to fix the system map :)
[09:29] <raylu> dennister: ok. open devices.map and delete the line
[09:29] <raylu> dennister: renumber as needed
[09:29] <onetinsoldier> raylu: you think you can fix a locales problem?
[09:29] <raylu> Terralthra: show me the current xorg.conf?
[09:29] <raylu> onetinsoldier: nope :D
[09:29] <fryguy> crimsaq: you can also edit /etc/group manually, but this is not recommended because if you mess up in that file bad things happen.  It's how I tend to do it because it's usually faster for me, but probably just use the adduser command, which is unfortunately misnomered because it's used for doing basic user editing as well
[09:29] <gizmo_> Neaai: how to get server?have to d/l or w.get
[09:29] <onetinsoldier> raylu: i hear that!
[09:30] <raylu> onetinsoldier: i still don't know what gabrielcz is doing
[09:30] <onetinsoldier> raylu: roger
[09:30] <hischild> ActionParsnip1, i don't understand, how can giving mplayer a lower nice value help? During video playback no video player goes higher then 20% cpu usage, so the cooling only kicks in every few minutes.
[09:30] <dennister> oops, not system map, device map
[09:30] <Terralthra> raylu: http://pastebin.com/f59a04e16
[09:31] <ActionParsnip1> hischild: it might reduce the hangs
[09:31] <fryguy> giving something a lower nice value will cause it to use more cpu, not less.
[09:31] <ActionParsnip1> hischild: id look at it from the cooling side though, rather than the app
[09:31] <raylu> Terralthra: add Load "nvidia" to the module section
[09:32] <hischild> fryguy, i understand but there's only so much cpu it can use
[09:32] <raylu> Terralthra: and change the "nv" to "nvidia" in the device driver
[09:32] <Neaai> gizmo_: well I just checked the psybnc official site and got the .tar.gz file. There *is* a README file in there. You have to follow its instructions to install.
[09:32] <hischild> ActionParsnip1, then i don't understand, but i will try it.
[09:32] <gizmo_> i already instal Neaai
[09:32] <gizmo_> i just dont know how to make bnc and the server
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> hischild: got me too
[09:33] <fryguy> gizmo_: the tarball you downloaded includes full documentation as well.
[09:33] <onetinsoldier> gabrielcz: hello? what's happening?
[09:33] <ActionParsnip1> raylu: theres a tool to populat the xorg.conf file
[09:33] <gizmo_> fryguy:  : how to open the read me?
[09:33] <gizmo_> but there dont say how to put server..
[09:33] <fryguy> gizmo_: use the less command, or the more command, or really any text editor
[09:33] <onetinsoldier> gizmo_:  less README
[09:33] <Neaai> gizmo_: now, with any text editor.
[09:34] <ActionParsnip1> raylu: if you run gksudo nvidia-settings with no nvidia driver loaded it tells you the command
[09:35] <ActionParsnip1> !info avahi
[09:35] <dennister> ok, rebooting to see if this grub-install worked
[09:35] <Terralthra> raylu: changes made, and I'm killing/starting gdm
[09:35] <ActionParsnip1> !info avahi-utils
[09:35] <raylu> ActionParsnip1: oh, right. it's nvidia-xconfig, but yeah
[09:35] <ActionParsnip1> well thats as clear as mud
[09:36] <ActionParsnip1> raylu: yeah it should populate it good, that restart x server and rerun nvidia-settings
[09:36] <ardchoille> !info avahi-daemon
[09:36] <raylu> ActionParsnip1: everything is crystal clear after reading mplayer manpage
[09:36] <ActionParsnip1> raylu: try ffmpeg / mencoder ;)
[09:36] <dennister> hmmmmmmmm almost worked...got a grub anyway, and now have to edit it
[09:36] <hischild> ActionParsnip1, which new value? -5? -10?
[09:36] <raylu> thank god i haven't had to yet
[09:37] <Terralthra> error parsing conf files, it says
[09:37] <Neaai> gizmo_: have you compiled the thing successfully ?
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> hischild: i'd start on -5
[09:37] <raylu> Terralthra: yoo scrood oop
[09:37] <gizmo_> Neaai:  nope
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> hischild: i would go past -10 you'll start neglecting other stuff
[09:37] <raylu> Terralthra: show me what you have now? or, if you have a copy of the old one, nvidia-xconfig
[09:37] <hischild> ActionParsnip1, right. Well should something odd happen i can still reverse it. Tnx for the help, i'll come back.
[09:37] <raylu> Terralthra: (after making the old one that got you into gdm xorg.conf
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> ardchoille: for a desktop pc, do i need that?
[09:37] <Neaai> gizmo_: that's what you have to do for sure otherwise you have nothing.
[09:38] <Terralthra> raylu - hang on, I used spaces instead of tabs
[09:38] <Terralthra> give me a sec
[09:38] <raylu> Terralthra: makes no difference
[09:38] <Terralthra> it might've caused a parse error >.>
[09:38] <TimothyP> Hi, I need some help with pppd, but there does not seem to be a specific channel. We have configured it now so that it esatblishes a connection via a serial GPRS modem, but when the connection has been made we need to execute a script (or the ability to manually set a route), any suggestions?
[09:38] <Kartagis> why would vi give CONVERSION ERROR?
[09:38] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip1: probably already installed, it was updated yesterday for all releases
[09:39] <gizmo_> no one teach me..
[09:39] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip1: as to whether or not you *need* it, I don't know
[09:39] <hischild> ActionParsnip1, btw, you don't really need avahi, but it'll give you an IP should it fail to find a dhcp server or something else and some other minor stuff.
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> ardchoille: oh yes it is and i just got the update, is it necessary for a desktop system though?
[09:39] <gizmo_> so hard for me if just read the document
[09:39] <Neaai> gizmo_: follow the instructions given at section (a) of the README file and do as it says.
[09:39] <hischild> ActionParsnip1, better to just keep it
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> hischild: deal, thanks
[09:39] <bazhang> gizmo_, you are trying to set up a server?
[09:39] <suji> any one know the command for  send a file from one system to another which they connected in a network
[09:40] <Terralthra> ok, raylu, you were right, it made no difference
[09:40] <gizmo_> bazhang:  yeah..but i dont know how to..
[09:40] <fryguy> suji: if ssh is installed on both machines, scp is probably the easiest way
[09:40] <Terralthra> you want the new xorg.conf?
[09:40] <bazhang> !lamp | gizmo_ read this carefully
[09:40] <fryguy> suji: otherwise you can use netcat and pipe the output from one netcat into the input of another listening netcat
[09:40] <dennister> yes!!! after editing grub lines, now booting into new isntallation :-)
[09:40] <ActionParsnip1> TimothyP: i dont know about automatically, you could have a script on your desktop that you can manually run
[09:40] <Neaai> gizmo_: to what I saw, you have to "make menuconfig" and after you set the configuration right you have to simply  "make"
[09:40] <bazhang> gizmo_, there are a number of links there you need to read carefully.
[09:41] <suji> how to do the netcat. the both system hava ssh
[09:41] <raylu> dennister: cross your fingers
[09:41] <fryguy> suji: if both systems have ssh, just use scp
[09:41] <onetinsoldier> gabrielcz: hello? what's happening?
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> suji: if a folder is shared on the destination, you could mount the folder and cp it over
[09:41] <TimothyP> ActionParsnip1 this is on a server in a remote location :p
[09:41] <gizmo_> bazhang:  i just want to know how to close the psybn file after using
[09:41] <gizmo_> i want the command..
[09:42] <suji> give example for the full command line using scp
[09:42] <bazhang> gizmo_, you have been directed to see the readme file
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> TimothyP: hmm, i see your point.
[09:42] <gizmo_> ok2..
[09:42] <Terralthra> raylu: http://pastebin.com/f2c5fc32e
[09:42] <gizmo_> later i come again
[09:42] <fryguy> suji: scp file user@host:destination
[09:42] <bazhang> gizmo_, if it is too hard then you should consider something from the repos
[09:42] <onetinsoldier> he left
[09:42] <bazhang> argh
[09:42] <suji> kk thank u fryguy
[09:43] <TimothyP> ActionParsnip1 but someone just gave me  a solution, ppp knows an if-up :)
[09:43] <TimothyP> thnx for your time though :)
[09:43] <qwyeth> Hello all; I'm running Ubuntu server 8.10 and I have some remote users.  I would like to force them to change password on login.  I have done this using chage -d 0 <user>, and it works when logging in locally, however when ssh'ing in to the user with expired password, it announces that the password must be changed immediately, but then drops the connection.  I have extensively googled the problem and read man pages for chage, sshd, pam, an
[09:43] <dennister> raylu: thx...i logged in ok...i'm actually an experienced installer by now...just never got grub in wrong drive's mbr before
[09:44] <ActionParsnip1> TimothyP: you could have a script that forms the connection, then runs the route command
[09:44] <ActionParsnip1> TimothyP: all in one step
[09:44] <Kozeris> My friend has problem: yesterday has kubuntu installing on slave hdd while master was xp and then smthng  messed with GRUB. He got grub error 25. Today we tried to disconnect xp and install master linux , and we got errorDISK BOOT FAILURE-Insert system disk and press enter. So whe connected Only XP ( removed ubuntu hdd) : all loading ok, then we connected additionaly slave ubuntu hdd,
[09:44] <qwyeth> And if not, is there a better channel I should be asking Ubuntu Server questions on?
[09:44] <dennister> other than that i'm pretty experrienced at editing grub lines, too, lol
[09:44] <Kozeris> its 4 times slower loada, but hdtune shows ok 50mbs both
[09:44] <Kozeris> and then if only linux hdd it loads veyr long GRUB, and then grub gives mys hown error
[09:45] <ActionParsnip1> qwyeth: you can set it with passwd when you change their password. it sets the time they will be forced to change their password
[09:45] <fryguy> So I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a machine, it's an intel core2 processor on a p35 motherboard, nvidia graphics card that runs using the nvidia binary driver.  Other versions of linux install fine (including archlinux, gentoo, freebsd (doesn't count), debian, and linux from scratch), but neither 8.04, 32-bit or 64-bit, or the alternative installers will install.  The liveCDs freeze as soon as the get to the desktop, and the alternative installer freezes pa
[09:45] <Neaai> Kozeris: most probably you have to reinstall grub
[09:45] <raylu> Terralthra: heh
[09:45] <raylu> Terralthra: you have an extra '
[09:45] <raylu> Terralthra: after nvidia
[09:45] <dennister> when i get some of these desktops installed properly and stuff I'll find out why mice aren't working in winblows all of a sudden :(...in the winblows channel
[09:45] <qwyeth> Yes, I've done that, but that does not answer my question.  I want to set random passwords and FORCE the change upon login.
[09:45] <fryguy> what else can I try to successfully install ubuntu on this machine
[09:45] <Terralthra> whoops
[09:46] <DJones> qwyeth: There is the channel #ubuntu-server as well that might be able to help
[09:46] <raylu> dennister: that's easy
[09:46] <qwyeth> Thank you DJones!
[09:46] <raylu> dennister: scandisk, antivirus, defrag, reboot, reboot, reboot, reboot
[09:46] <raylu> dennister: oh, and something about safemode, reformat
[09:46] <Vinceman> ActionParsnip1, so
[09:46] <Mud> ActionParsnip1
[09:46] <Mud> ?
[09:46] <Kozeris> Neaai: for linux hd? ( i want put grub on linux that if i disconnect it , xp loads as ussualy , before) . How to reinstall grub on linux that it will give me normaly choose OS and so on from linux hdd
[09:46] <ActionParsnip1> Kozeris: sounds like the bios is still pointing to the xp disk, change it to boot to the ubuntu disk and it will boot that, if necessary add the xp boot stuffs to /boot/grub/menu.list but if you had the xp drive connected during install this will not be needed
[09:46] <Terralthra> raylu: redoing gdm again
[09:46] <dennister> raylu: lol...yep...actually i'm rusty with winblows these days...die-hard linux evangelist
[09:47] <aldipc> i use xirc, why are all the words I type with a red line below it?
[09:47] <Vinceman> having warcraft II run on my ubuntu machine would be a dream come true
[09:47] <Neaai> Kozeris: i need to afk a few mins. I'll see to help you after this if you still are here.
[09:47] <hischild> fryguy, use a livedisk on usb, remove quiet splash from the bootline ?
[09:47] <raylu> Vinceman: have you visited winehq's appdb?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip1> !bootoptions | fryguy
[09:47] <ActionParsnip1> Mud: ?
[09:47] <fryguy> hischild: what is a liveusb going to do that the livecd isn't
[09:47] <aldipc> i use xirc, why are all the words I type with a red line below it?
[09:47] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: none of the bootoptions change the freezing behavior
[09:47] <Terralthra> raylu: gdm restarts, and we are back to a black screen =[
[09:47] <ActionParsnip1> Vinceman: so what?
[09:48] <dennister> i can't believe i got suckered in by my own guilt to give her a mythtv box that also dualboots so she can run her ms project and stuff
[09:48] <hischild> fryguy, can do loads.
[09:48] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: try disabling nnecesssary hardware in bios
[09:48] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: already done
[09:48] <Vinceman> about that one site
[09:48] <raylu> Terralthra: heh. back to the xorg.0.log
[09:48] <fryguy> hischild: such as what? that will help me in this situation
[09:48] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: as one guys said, distros choose their friends, and for some machines some distros are not their friend :P try the kernel option pci=noacpi. doubt that will help but might be worth trying
[09:48] <dennister> getting those win drivers was hell...and i'm not even getting paid for all this work  for someone i hardly know...lol
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: does the ubuntu iso pass md5sum and does the cd check ok for errors?
[09:49] <fryguy> onetinsoldier: already tried that boot option
[09:49] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: ok, roger
[09:49] <Vinceman> ActionParsnip1, the results are very old
[09:49] <raylu> Terralthra: though, this might be faster for you if you just restored the xorg.conf before you edited it (from x -configure)
[09:49] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: as i said in the original statement, yes it does, and it also installs correctly from the same media on other machines
[09:49] <raylu> Terralthra: and used nvidia-xconfig
[09:49] <hischild> fryguy, if everyone who comes in this channel asks the helper why he asks someone why he gives that advice, we're spending hours in here explaining and a few minutes actually helping.
[09:49] <Terralthra> mkay
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: did you test your ram. could be worth a try
[09:50] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: ram is fine, runs memtest for 48 hours.  Also of note is that several other operating systems listed run correctly
[09:50] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: do you get the live desktop?
[09:50] <fryguy> hischild: i guess i'm asking for specifics as to what to do to the liveusb that will allow me to install correctly where the livecd wouldn't
[09:50] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: i do, and then i can't click on anything, and i lose the ability to do anything with keyboard (although caps lock and numlock still work)
[09:50] <Terralthra> raylu: nvidia-xconfig had a validation error: "Data incomplete in file xorg.conf. Device section "configured video device" must have a driver line"
[09:50] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: and the mouse moves, buti can't click
[09:50] <hischild> fryguy, did you see me say it would install correctly? I'm trying to rule out possibly faults where it can go wrong
[09:51] <Mud> 10:35am <ActionParsnip1:#ubuntu> well thats as clear as mud
[09:51] <Mud> ??
[09:51] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: same behavior occurs on 32-bit and 64-bit of both 8.04 and 8.10
[09:51] <raylu> Terralthra: i think you used the wrong one
[09:51] <raylu> Terralthra: http://pastebin.com/f59a04e16
[09:51] <raylu> Mud: lol
[09:51] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: ok when you get the desktop, hit ctrl+alt+f1 and you should be able to sleuth from there, if the keyboard fails ther ei dont know whats going on
[09:51] <Terralthra> ok, tried again
[09:51] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: virtual terminal switching doesn't work
[09:51] <Terralthra> with the proper xorg.conf
[09:52] <re5> It seems java will not uninstall :/
[09:52] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: like i just said, the keyboard stops being responsive
[09:52] <re5> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[09:52] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: exccept for caps lock and numlock keys
[09:52] <re5> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[09:52] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: maybe in x,but maybe not in command line
[09:52] <re5> any ideas?
[09:52] <raylu> re5: run dpkg --configure -a?
[09:52] <re5> yup
[09:52] <hischild> re5, the solution is just there --> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:52] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: maybe the x server is flakey for some reason
[09:52] <re5> errors
[09:52] <hischild> !apt-fix | re5
[09:52] <onetinsoldier> pastebin the errors
[09:52] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: yes, so i went to the alternative installer, which as i mentioned in the original question, freezes partway through also
[09:53] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: you could even try sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade there, see if it helps
[09:53] <raylu> re5: show?
[09:53] <raylu> hischild: that's not relevant
[09:53] <Terralthra> raylu: black screen. again.
[09:53] <onetinsoldier> re5: pastebin the errors
[09:53] <raylu> Terralthra: after doing what?
[09:53] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: i have tried that, it doesn't accomplish anything
[09:53] <Terralthra> after nvidia-xconfig
[09:53] <raylu> Terralthra: oh. xorg log :(
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: upgrading with the xserver killed?
[09:54] <Terralthra> (and restartint gdm)
[09:54] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: yes
[09:54] <hischild> raylu, why is that not relevant? the error is that it's stuck, that will unlock it.
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> ok
[09:54] <re5> hischild fixed, thanks dude
[09:54] <bullgard4> /var/backups/ includes on my Ubuntu 8.04.1 computer the files aptitude.pkgstates.0, aptitude.pkgstates.1.gz und aptitude.pkgstates.2.gz dated October 2007. Is this not data garbage which I can delete because I have a file dpkg.status.0 dated 12 December 2008 also?
[09:54] <raylu> hischild: that doesn't fix the broken java package
[09:54] <raylu> hischild: which is what's causing the error
[09:54] <Terralthra> raylu: http://pastebin.com/f6f41ec92
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: well the live cd only needs limited system stuffs, maybe you could try a different keyboard / mouse?
[09:55] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: i've already tried a different keyboard mouse, same behavior occurs
[09:55] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: i've even switched from usb to ps/2 devices, with no change
[09:55] <hischild> raylu, i wasn't trying to help him fix the broken package. But you can't fix a broken package as long as the package system was still broken. That command from !apt-fix fixes his package system, allowing him to continue on. Look up a bit, it did fix.
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: then ive no idea, youve shot down pretty much everything as being ok
[09:55] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: k
[09:55] <raylu> Terralthra: this looks familiar... xorg.conf again :(
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: id see if anyone else can pitch in
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: and /or ask later on
[09:56] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: too early to repeat, so i'll wait a bit. i've been asking on and off for a day or so
[09:56] <raylu> hischild: configuring it should have fixed it too, but in a nicer way
[09:56] <dennister> ok guys, i'm going to bed at 5 am here...i should be fine now that i'm back in my comfort zone with a working grub
[09:56] <Terralthra> raylu: http://pastebin.com/fc542174
[09:57] <dennister> night all, and thx to raylu and the others
[09:57] <hischild> raylu, he already said he tried that
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: best way
[09:57] <raylu> hischild: oh, didn't notice
[09:57] <hischild> raylu, anyway, his problems are fixed.
[09:58] <dayz-ivxx> how do you change keyboard shortcuts for keyboards with "media" buttons to open a non-default(rhythmbox) media player and open my new one
[09:58] <stmartin> Can somebody tell me how to put background color of the text of the icons???
[09:58] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: maybe have the system power off, disconnect all power inputs and remove cmos battery for an hour. then plug it all back in and fire up
[09:58] <re5> raylu i was able to remove the broken package with package manager once it was unlocked with !apt-fix ;)
[09:58] <Arrowhead212002> can someone help me install songbird
[09:58] <dayz-ivxx> arrow
[09:59] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: I have a configured bios whose settings I don't want to lose.
[09:59] <Arrowhead212002> is there a sudo apt-get install command for it?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: should clear out any old nvram logs etc
[09:59] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: ok
[09:59] <dayz-ivxx> arrowhead212002:i just downloaded it from the site
[09:59] <fryguy> what else can I try to successfully install ubuntu on this machine
[09:59] <bazhang> Arrowhead212002, you need to install the 3rd party deb
[09:59] <raylu> Terralthra: :(
[09:59] <onetinsoldier> Arrowhead212002: have you tried  apt-get install songbird?
[09:59] <raylu> Terralthra: i have no idea
[09:59] <fryguy> So I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a machine, it's an intel core2 processor on a p35 motherboard, nvidia graphics card that runs using the nvidia binary driver.  Other versions of linux install fine (including archlinux, gentoo, freebsd (doesn't count), debian, and linux from scratch), but neither 8.04, 32-bit or 64-bit, or the alternative installers will install.  The liveCDs freeze as soon as the get to the desktop, and the alternative installer freezes pa
[09:59] <Terralthra> raylu: I'm pretty sure it's a problem with X
[09:59] <stmartin> Can somebody tell me how to put background color of the text of the icons???
[09:59] <esko_> fryguy, is ubuntu cd tested in cd drive where you are installing it?
[09:59] <Arrowhead212002> dang i forgot about the 3rd party deb... lol im sorry its late lol
[10:00] <Terralthra> there's an issue with nvidia's glx 96 and 71 drivers with the X included in 8.10
[10:00] <raylu> Terralthra: but the nv driver was fine. this makes it a problem with the drivers
[10:00] <onetinsoldier> Arrowhead212002: nvm, looks like bazhang'g got you covered
[10:00] <fryguy> esko_: yes, and the media (all 6 of them) install fine on another machine
[10:00] <Terralthra> which is why I tried to install 8.04
[10:00] <Kartagis> why would vi give CONVERSION ERROR? how can I make it not to?
[10:00] <fryguy> esko_: and i've tried a different cd drive on the same machine anyway
[10:00] <Arrowhead212002> yeah thats what im running 8.04
[10:00] <Terralthra> but then gnome-desktop-environment dependency bug screwed me there
[10:00]  * stmartin urgent helppp
[10:00] <ikonia> stmartin you have to ask a question to get help
[10:01] <stmartin> Can somebody tell me how to put background color of the text of the icons.?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: in the limited time you have on the desktop, mount a usb drive and output dmeg to a text file on it
[10:01] <ikonia> stmartin: thats taken from the default background colour
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: you can then read it offline
[10:01] <stmartin> ikonia I don't want it
[10:01] <stmartin> I don't want to be transparent
[10:01] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: the dmesg is pretty much the same as it is for any of the other linuxes that install on the machine
[10:02] <ikonia> stmartin: then sett he colour in the default background settings
[10:02] <stmartin> Only when I click on them, they aren't
[10:02] <hischild> fryguy, we just want to see it. Please do it.
[10:02] <ikonia> stmartin: and this is urgent ?
[10:02] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: well your system is weird, which isnt the same as your other linux boxes
[10:02] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: you could also output lshw too
[10:02] <Terralthra> That the computer requires a minimal install CD + the bug with the metapackage dependences makes 8.04 just Not Work.
[10:02] <Terralthra> Which is very annoying, but what can I do?
[10:03] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: you are going to have to do something as the system isnt healthy so you need to probe it to see whats wrong
[10:03] <Terralthra> 8.10 doesn't work with the nvidia 96 drivers, and 8.04 doesn't work to even get gnome.
[10:03] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: you cant expect it to be the same as the system isnt acting the same
[10:03] <stmartin> How to make it?
[10:03] <ikonia> fryguy: is it possible to install ssh on teh live environment
[10:03] <ikonia> fryguy: then work on it remotly when it hangs  ?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: nice
[10:04] <raylu> ikonia: yes, but then you might as well use an alternate install
[10:04] <ikonia> raylu: why ?
[10:04] <ikonia> raylu: the alternative install hangs also
[10:05] <raylu> oh...
[10:05] <onetinsoldier> what's mode +J ?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: even though the gui has hung you can still ssh to it if the system underneath is still running
[10:06] <sleepy_cat> webkit-gtk
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: you can then run dmesg and see if the kernel is having a bad day
[10:06] <Arrowhead212002> lol ok well im glad that i got that figured out lol :P
[10:06] <Arrowhead212002> idk how i would live without #ubuntu
[10:07] <onetinsoldier> Arrowhead212002: what did you end up figuring out?
[10:07] <dayz-ivxx> arrowhead212002: what did you do? i'm wonderin if i might have done it incorrect >.<
[10:07] <Arrowhead212002> instead of going the tar.gz route i went the .deb route
[10:07] <Terralthra> so, is there any way to get the dependency fixed for 8.04? because that is one hell of a bug =[
[10:07] <onetinsoldier> Arrowhead212002: oh.. i see
[10:07] <Arrowhead212002> yeah
[10:08] <dayz-ivxx> ?
[10:08] <Arrowhead212002> tar files are a mess for packets imo
[10:08] <ActionParsnip1> Terralthra: try sudo apt-get -f install and it will fix it for you
[10:08] <dayz-ivxx> lawl i'm filling so stupid i think i'm too tired to understand
[10:08] <dayz-ivxx> where'd you find the .deb?
[10:08] <dayz-ivxx> feeling!!!
[10:08] <dayz-ivxx> HAHA
[10:08] <Kozeris> neaai  btw before we installed ubuntu, we had ntfs
 so it was ntfs[xp] + ntfs[slave,data]
 and then winxp loades slow too
 what can be problem
 its like something with that data which is now ubuntu
[10:08] <FloodBot1> Kozeris: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:09] <Arrowhead212002> dayz-ivxx: i got it here http://www.getdeb.net/app/Songbird
[10:09] <dayz-ivxx> arrowhead212002: thank you :)
[10:09] <fryguy> hischild: ActionParsnip1: http://rattlesnake.ath.cx:81/dmesg  http://rattlesnake.ath.cx:81/lshw
[10:09] <Arrowhead212002> though it only has it for ubuntu 8.01 and 8.10
[10:09] <Arrowhead212002> er 8.04
[10:10] <Vinceman> ActionParsnip1 why isn't ubuntu perfect?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip1> Vinceman: no operating system is perfect
[10:10] <histo> !bug 1 | Vinceman
[10:10] <histo> bug #1
[10:11] <Vinceman> !bug #1
[10:11] <histo> hrm...
[10:11] <histo> Vinceman, nah its not working
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> oh thats sooo contrived
[10:12] <bazhang> Vinceman, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[10:12] <suji> how to learn the commands any pdf or website available
[10:12] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: is your bluetooth internal or is it usb?
[10:12] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: no bluetooth
[10:12] <hischild> fryguy, you have an ipv6 router? If not, please give us your entire dmesg, not just a part.
[10:12] <fryguy> hischild: i have an ipv6 capable router, yes. that is the complete output from dmesg
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: do you have a usb hard drive attached?
[10:13] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: yes
[10:13] <suji> any one say how to learn ubuntu commands
[10:13] <fryguy> a thumbdrive i connected so i could grab these files
[10:13] <fryguy> although i ended up just transferring them over network
[10:13] <DistroJockey> !terminal
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: is it used to install ubuntu or are you installing from cd or are you installing to the internal hard drive?
[10:13] <fryguy> installing from cd to internal hard drive
[10:13] <fryguy> standard install, nothing special
[10:14] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: did you try disconnecting the usb drive when you installed?
[10:14] <suji> fryguy please give me a link how to learn the commands in ubuntu
[10:14] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: you want the system minimum
[10:14] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: yes, the first time it was connected was right now
[10:14] <fryguy> suji: i don't know anything
[10:14] <ikonia> suji you need to use generic linux commands such as guides listed on http://www.tldp.org
[10:14] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: no printers or scanners or anything, bare bones
[10:14] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: i'm on a minimum hardware set
[10:15] <bullgard4> /var/backups/ includes on my Ubuntu 8.04.1 computer the files aptitude.pkgstates.0, aptitude.pkgstates.1.gz und aptitude.pkgstates.2.gz dated October 2007. Is this not data garbage which I can delete because I have a file dpkg.status.0 dated 12 December 2008 also?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: then all i can suggest is to start ripping hardware out
[10:15] <rww> suji: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:15] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: more importantly, i'm on the same hardware set that installs fine for several other operating systems.
[10:15] <suji> ikonia thank u verymuch
[10:15] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: There's nothing else I can rip out
[10:15] <suji> rww thank u
[10:15] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: well its a different operating system
[10:15] <ikonia> bullgard4 just archives, you can delete them
[10:15] <hischild> fryguy, you've still got the onboard audio, onboard lan, firewire enabled. Disable those.
[10:16] <hischild> fryguy, then on the bootscreen of the desktop CD, remove the quiet and splash and check where it hangs
[10:16] <fryguy> hischild: i've had them all disabled, it doesn't change anything
[10:16] <bazhang> http://linuxcommand.org/ suji
[10:16] <bullgard4> ikonia: ok.
[10:16] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: you are gonna need a tonne of boot options then to kill off most of your modules and system functionality to get it installed then
[10:16] <fryguy> hischild: it gets all the way to the desktop
[10:16] <hischild> fryguy, will you just say "i've already done that, didnt work" all the time?
[10:16] <hischild> fryguy, you just said it wouldn't ...
[10:16] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: you need to disable stuff like LAN and onboard firewire
[10:16] <ikonia> fryguy does the numlock key turn on the numlock light ?
[10:16] <fryguy> hischild: i've spent a significant amount of time debugging this already.  I don't run into a problem and run into the channel to get it solved.  I spend time resolving it myself
[10:16] <fryguy> ikonia: yes
[10:16] <fryguy> and capslock works
[10:16] <fryguy> but no other keys work
[10:17] <fryguy> ikonia: i've swapped keyboard already too (and mouse)
[10:17] <hischild> fryguy, then don't bother coming here if you won't even accept help given.
[10:17] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: i have disabled all of it, it doesn't change the behavior i experience
[10:17] <ikonia> fryguy: you don't get a full desktop, just the background, somiething like that
[10:17] <fryguy> hischild: i'm telling you i've already done these things.
[10:17] <fryguy> ikonia: no i get a full desktop
[10:17] <fryguy> with icons and everything
[10:17] <fryguy> and i can move the mouse
[10:17] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: he says it boots thn hangs after a while
[10:17] <fryguy> i just can't click anything, and the keyboard has the behavior as i described)
[10:18] <hischild> fryguy, <fryguy> hischild: i've had them all disabled, it doesn't change anything
[10:18] <ikonia> fryguy: so can you click any of the icons/menus ?
[10:18] <fryguy> ikonia: correct
[10:18] <fryguy> err wait
[10:18] <fryguy> i can not
 fryguy, you've still got the onboard audio, onboard lan, firewire enabled. Disable those.
[10:18] <fryguy> sorry i misread
[10:18] <fryguy> hischild: i have disabled them in a previous try
[10:18] <fryguy> hischild: it doesn't change anything
[10:18] <FloodBot1> fryguy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:18] <hischild> fryguy, which part did you not understand? I'm not asking you if you have tried it in the past. I"m telling you to do tha tnow.
[10:18] <fryguy> hischild: this isn't my first time trying this
[10:18] <hischild> fryguy, and i'm trying to help you, but as long as you refuse to work along i can't help.
[10:18] <fryguy> hischild: ok, and then after the machine freezes again, what do you want me to do? reboot it and give you a new dmesg?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: if you run lsmod you can rmmod some of the modules loaded to see if its better
[10:19] <ikonia> fryguy: you mentioned earlier you have problems with the alternative cd also, is that correct or did I missread
[10:19] <fryguy> ikonia: that is correct
[10:19] <ikonia> fryguy: at what point does that "hang" seeing as it doesn't use a desktop
[10:19] <fryguy> ikonia: right when it actually starts the installation procedure, after all options have been chosen
[10:20] <ikonia> fryguy: so it parttiions the disks and all that, and as you hit install, the progress bar appears and it hangs ?
[10:20] <fryguy> ikonia: exactly
[10:20] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: what other partitions are on the hd??
[10:20] <kjs> is there a way to get my firefox and thunderbird settings / accounts / bookmarks etc
[10:20] <fryguy> onetinsoldier: 1 ntfs partition, 1 ufs partition
[10:20] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: roger
[10:21] <esko_> fryguy, is your hdd controller marvell?
[10:21] <shams> hi, i download AssaultCube and can run it successfully. but after minutes, X servers crashed and i can't restart x or gdm and must reboot my machine. how can i fix this prob or how can i found problem?
[10:21] <hischild> fryguy, all partitions, not just those 2. Include the swap as well
[10:21] <fryguy> kjs: ~/.mozilla has firefox settings
[10:21] <fryguy> hischild: at the time the installation starts, i have no other partitions besides the 2 i just mentioned
[10:22] <fryguy> he said other i thought he was referring to "not related to this install", sorry for making an assumption
[10:22] <hischild> fryguy, you have another drive, and it clearly shows 4 partitions here, with the swap being in the extended partition.
[10:22] <fryguy> esko_: http://rattlesnake.ath.cx:81/dmesg http://rattlesnake.ath.cx:81/lshw
[10:22] <kjs> fryguy: from windows to linux i ment
[10:22] <fryguy> hischild: right, that's from the ubuntu install
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> shams: read dmesg and other ubuntu logs to se whats going on
[10:22] <fryguy> hischild: as part of what ikonia just discussed with me, the alternative installer gets all the way past partitioning
[10:23] <mk213> can someone quickly give me some advice with wicd
[10:23]  * industrialbs audibly fails the latest kernel update with all sorts of words you wouldn't hear in polite conversation
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> !wicd
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> !info wicd
[10:23] <ikonia> industrialbs drop the /me commands please, if you've got a question ask
[10:24] <elatio> hey i have a question. in the main gnome bar it has my name as well as a bunch of status options when i click it.
[10:24] <elatio> what's this for?
[10:24] <ikonia> fryguy: just walking this through in my head, as your desktop and alterntive symptoms are teh same (hang) I actually doesn't believe they are, more an underlying issue thats displaying this in both
[10:24] <industrialbs> ikonia: Well I don't really have a question seeing as I don't know what is going wrong where, I'm just saying that the latest one kills my graphics drivers
[10:24] <fryguy> ikonia: any idea what that issue might be, and why it seems to only be exemplified in ubuntu?
[10:25] <industrialbs> elatio: Such as online away etc ?
[10:25] <ikonia> fryguy: I can think of a few things that could cuase this, but they don't tie in well and are a bit random, hence why I'm trying to put it together in my head
[10:25] <elatio> yes, i just fiddled around with them and it changes the pidgin status. does it affect other programs?
[10:25] <industrialbs> elatio: Nope, only pidgin
[10:25] <elatio> ok, thanks.
[10:25] <ikonia> fryguy: I have a test that may provide solid info, but it's a bit long winded and I'm not sure on the results, are you up for it ?
[10:26] <industrialbs> Well at least I know something :D
[10:26] <fryguy> ikonia: i've gone as far as installing linux from scratch from another linux from scratch system that is using an ubuntu-patched kernel, in case something in the ubuntu patches was causing an issue.  I'm sure your test isn't as elaborate as that, so I will give it a try
[10:26] <ikonia> fryguy: is this machien on a network
[10:26] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: do you have another pc?
[10:26] <fryguy> ikonia: yes
[10:26] <esko_> fryguy, my best quess add kernel option pci=nommconf
[10:26] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: yes, sort of
[10:27] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: put the hard drive in the other pc, install to it, then move it over to the intended system and boot
[10:27] <onetinsoldier> esko_: what is that kernel option? i think i've seen it before, but i don't know what it is
[10:27]  * ActionParsnip1 thinks literally outside the box
[10:27] <ikonia> fryguy: what I'd like you to do is boot from the alternative CD, one it starts uset crtl+alt+F2/F3/F4 to swap to a termina, and install the openssh-server package and configure it on the network
[10:27] <fryguy> ActionParsnip1: freebsd server in closet, and this laptop running freebsd.  I don't have a suitable machine for doing a hard drive transfer
[10:28] <ikonia> fryguy: from the remove machine I'd like you to open 3 terminals please.
[10:28] <onetinsoldier> esko_: is it no memory management conf?
[10:28] <fryguy> ikonia: gimme a minute
[10:28] <ikonia> fryguy: once you have the 3 terminals open run "iostat 5" in one windows and let it run, run "vmstat 5" in the other and let it run, then swap back to your main installer screen on the console and start the install
[10:28] <ikonia> fryguy: you should have 1 terminal spare for debugging
[10:29] <ActionParsnip1> fryguy: i'd dig out the server or ask a buddy if you can borrow his system
[10:31] <vallhalla81> hi there can anyone tell me where the desktop themes are saved to?
[10:31] <onetinsoldier> vallhalla81: in ~/.themes ?
[10:32] <ardchoille> vallhalla81: user themes are in ~/.themes and system themes are in /usr/share/themes
[10:32] <fryguy> ikonia: do you happen to know the location of the openssh-server .deb on the alternative install cd (i'm assuming i need to dpkg -i it since there is no apt-get at this point)
[10:32] <ikonia> fryguy: you need to get it up on the network and then apt-get it, apt-get should be on the livecd
[10:33] <vallhalla81> ardchoille: cool thank you
[10:33] <ikonia> fryguy: I could be wrong, but I think it is
[10:33] <ardchoille> yw
[10:33] <fryguy> ikonia: wait, do you want me to use the livecd or the alternate installer?
[10:33] <ikonia> fryguy: alternative
[10:33] <fryguy> apt-get isn't on the alternative cd
[10:33] <fryguy> at least not that i see, maybe i need to do some additional configuration
[10:33] <ikonia> fryguy: I could have sworn it was as thats how it dos the install
[10:34] <fryguy> i'm currently at busybox shell on vty2
[10:34] <gizmo_> my psybnc is nuthin in my terminal
[10:34] <gizmo_> what a waste..
[10:34] <ottoshmidt> is there any GUI menu to list hardware devices?
[10:34] <ikonia> I've not got a box to test on myself,
[10:34] <Arrowhead212002> will VMware esxi run on 8.04?
[10:34] <onetinsoldier> ottoshmidt: yes..  lshw  and hardinfo
[10:34] <DIFH-iceroot> ottoshmidt: sysinfo
[10:34] <bazhang> gizmo_, then you should install something from the repos
[10:34] <ikonia> fryguy: one moment, let me see if a lab box is free as I would have put money it beingo n the altcd
[10:35] <fryguy> ikonia: find / -name *apt* returns /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode ; /bin/apt-install  and /var/lib/apt-install
[10:35] <gizmo_> i already read the readme..i cant open the menuconfig
[10:35]  * gizmo_ frustrated
[10:35] <vallhalla81> ardchoille: i dont seem to have ~/.themes
[10:35] <ikonia> gizmo_ what are you trying to do ?
[10:35] <bazhang> gizmo_, well then I suggest you install the server from the repos as that seems too difficult
[10:36] <gizmo_> bazhang:  repos?
[10:36] <gizmo_> how?
[10:36] <ardchoille> vallhalla81: that's not a problem, you can create it, it isn't used unless you manually install themes in your home anyway
[10:36] <gizmo_> ikonia: i try to run terminal with psybnc..
[10:36] <bazhang> !lamp > gizmo_
[10:36] <vallhalla81> ardchoille: ok cool
[10:37] <ardchoille> vallhalla81: the themes you have now are in /usr/share/themes , these are themes for system-wide use (all users)
[10:38] <vallhalla81> ardchoille: thats cool i have found the ones i was looking for now i made a few and wanted to expot for back up
[10:38] <gizmo_> bazhang: you mean this one sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[10:38] <Arrowhead212002> what are good (free) virt pc emulators for ubuntu
[10:38] <vallhalla81> ardchoille: thank you for your help
[10:38] <ardchoille> vallhalla81: you're welcome
[10:38] <vallhalla81> Arrowhead212002: virtual box
[10:39] <fryguy> Arrowhead212002: i don't know of any emulators, but wine is an implementation of the win32 api that you might find helpful, if you are looking for virtualization software, virtualbox is a common choice
[10:39] <Arrowhead212002> *tipshat* thanks
[10:39] <fryguy> ikonia: this shell doesn't even have ifconfig.  not sure how i'm supposed to configure a network in this environment
[10:39] <ikonia> fryguy: you need to progress the installer a little first
[10:39] <ikonia> fryguy: it will setup a small install system to do the install on
[10:40] <fryguy> ikonia: i'm at the partitioner, do i need to go further?
[10:40] <ikonia> fryguy: I was curious on a side note did either a.) kubuntu b.) xubuntu c.) server install work or hang in the same manner
[10:40] <fryguy> ikonia: i have not tried those
[10:40] <ikonia> fryguy: not sure if it's setup after the partitioning
[10:40] <ikonia> fryguy: the other distros I was just curious as a side issue
[10:40] <fryguy> ikonia: the only things I have tried are 8.04 32bit 8.04 64 bit 8.10 32bit 8.10 64 bit and the alternative installers for those 4
[10:41] <termos> is there a seperate channel for ubuntu-eee?
[10:41] <fryguy> for ubuntu-related distros at least
[10:41] <Solarium> Guys, does any one know if there is vesa friendly theme for cairo dock ? by friendly i mean that it doesn't just work, but also looks nice (i.e no ugly black frame aroudnt the icons)
[10:41] <ikonia> fryguy: I'd be interested in kubuntu and the 8.10 server nstall out of curiosity, but thats really a side issue
[10:42] <gizmo_> adduser: Only root may add a user or group to the system.
[10:42] <gizmo_> <---
[10:43] <ikonia> gizmo_: user sudo
[10:43] <fryguy> ikonia: so I finished partitioning, started the install and then it froze right on the installing base system part.  I guess I went too far
[10:43] <gizmo_> ikonia: i mean psybnc bach..
[10:43] <suriro> Hello, everytime I start mplayer it changes LCD brightness. How can I stop it doing that?
[10:43] <fryguy> ikonia: i don't see any point in between partitioner and the installer where i can get access to an environment
[10:43] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto gizmo_
[10:43] <ikonia> gizmo_: what ?
[10:43] <ikonia> fryguy: I could be wrong about that, as I say I don't have a CD to test it
[10:43] <gizmo_> i want to know hwo to run psybnc in here..i dont have server..
[10:44] <gizmo_> apache server not working here
[10:44] <ikonia> gizmo_: there is a website with documentation and support for it
[10:44] <re5> why do java & ff hate each other :/
[10:45] <re5> i installed java but ff shows popups of it not working
[10:45] <re5> It seems like Java is not installed on your computer.....
[10:46] <fryguy> ikonia: any other suggestions on what I can try?
[10:46] <Padhu> Hi everybody
[10:46] <Padhu> Hi
[10:46] <ikonia> fryguy: we are a bot limited at the moment, I 'm thinking
[10:46] <ikonia> Padhu: you said
[10:46] <gizmo_> ikonia:  forget about psybnc..i just want to know what is a good who are using ubuntu..and what terminal can do?
[10:47] <ikonia> gizmo_: what ?
[10:47] <ikonia> gizmo_: you want to know what ?
[10:47] <re5> if someone can help let me know thnx
[10:47] <Padhu> I know sir
[10:47] <gizmo_> ikonia: i want to know more about terminal of ubuntu
[10:47] <fryguy> ikonia: like i mentioned. I've gone as far as installing a LinuxFromScratch setup that is using an ubuntu-patched kernel, thinking that might be an issue.  I'm not really sure what else there is to try at this point :/
[10:47] <ardchoille> !terminal | gizmo_
[10:47] <gizmo_> how i gonna check how many i have donwload in terminal?
[10:48] <gizmo_> can terminal do hack also?
[10:48] <ikonia> gizmo_: dpkg -l | wc -l
[10:48] <ikonia> gizmo_: do "hack" - come on
[10:48] <fryguy> lol
[10:48] <gizmo_> hehe
[10:48] <ikonia> gizmo_: I'm not laughing
[10:48] <gizmo_> i just want to know dont be mad..
[10:48] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> My Sata drive has stopped showing up in ubuntu.
[10:48] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Shows up in bios just fine thou.
[10:48] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Any ideas?
[10:49] <Arrowhead212002> sudo apt-get install hack? lol
[10:49] <Arrowhead212002> j/k
[10:49] <fryguy> CoUrPsE|DeAd: look in dmesg
[10:49] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> dmesg ?
[10:49] <ikonia> CoUrPsE|DeAd: if you open up gparted do you see the device at all ?
[10:49] <Arrowhead212002> id reinstall sata drivers
[10:49] <gizmo_> maybe i can learn more in terminal
[10:49] <Solarium> Guys, does any one know if there is vesa friendly theme for cairo dock ? by friendly i mean that it doesn't just work, but also looks nice (i.e no ugly black frame aroudnt the icons)
[10:49] <Arrowhead212002> i had that problem last week and that did it for me
[10:49] <ikonia> gizmo_: yes, you can learn the terminal
[10:49] <gizmo_> gizmo@gizmo:~$ dpkg -l | wc -l
[10:49] <gizmo_> 1277
[10:49] <gizmo_> what is that mean ikonia
[10:50] <ikonia> gizmo_: thats how many packages you have
[10:50] <fryguy> gizmo_: sudo apt-get install nethack-x11
[10:50] <ikonia> gizmo_: which is what you asked
[10:50] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Humm, its in dmesg.
[10:50] <telaviv> im constantly going to my drive with $ cd /media/sda1/linux/ ..... is there any way to like create a command line shortcut so i don't have to type all that everytime
[10:50]  * CoUrPsE|DeAd mounts.
[10:50] <telaviv> ?
[10:50] <gizmo_> how to see in the 1277..i mean how to remove which one i dont one anymore..
[10:50] <Bouib> hello
[10:50] <gizmo_> fryguy: im afraid to use hack thing..
[10:50] <ikonia> gizmo_: then don't
[10:51] <ardchoille> gizmo_: what is your goal, what are you trying to achieve?
[10:51] <fryguy> telaviv: if you are using bash, add an alias to your bash startup file
[10:51] <fryguy> telaviv: using the "alias" command
[10:51] <gizmo_> ardchoille: im using ubuntu to run my psybnc..
[10:51] <Kozeris> please read all, heres 2 problems:  http://www.paste.lt/paste/50109b59b084da5720169d30e330bd24
[10:51] <gizmo_> cause terminal is same like shell
[10:51] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Right, thanks.
[10:51] <onetinsoldier> gizmo_: here's another place about learning what to do with the terminal  http://linuxcommand.org/
[10:51] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Next issue, :D
[10:51] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> I installed ati drivers.
[10:51] <gizmo_> thanks onetinsoldier
[10:52] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> How can i enable them?
[10:52] <gizmo_> is terminal use all the same like linux command
[10:52] <ikonia> gizmo_: the terminal is a shell that is the same on all linux distros
[10:52] <onetinsoldier> gizmo_: you're welcome
[10:52] <ikonia> gizmo_: if you follow the websites people have guided you to you will get more info
[10:52] <Lou_> Hello, I am actually Lou's son, not Lou himself. I am still a newbie in Kubuntu and Linux. I am using Kubuntu 8.04.1. I messed up my computer and I am hoping to find help here.
[10:53] <gizmo_> but why i cant run psybnc?
[10:53] <gizmo_> maybe im still noob
[10:53] <fryguy> gizmo_: a terminal is a program that runs a command line environment, usually spawned by an initial shell, such as bash.  This shell allows you to run commands on the system
[10:53] <telaviv> fryguy: hmmm. I guess what I'm looking for is to be able to type cd windows/dir/. Where windows is like a 'fake' directory that it goes automatically to. maybe something using ~ or something?
[10:53] <gizmo_> sorry if im confuse you all
[10:53] <ardchoille> gizmo_: do you know what psybnc does?
[10:53] <fryguy> telaviv: then you want to create a symlink, take a look at the "ln" command
[10:53] <ikonia> gizmo_: the documentation and support methods for pbybnc are listed on it's website, please follow them
[10:53] <gizmo_> ardchoille: yes..its like when we dont have time on mrc..but our nick still in mirc..either we offline or offline
[10:54] <Arrowhead212002> lol gotta love compiz for their greatly known cube
[10:54] <telaviv> hmm i can create a symbolic link to a directory?! thats pretty cool fryguy
[10:54] <fryguy> telaviv: yes
[10:54] <goog> Hey People! My graphic suddenly feeld very slow. Windows scroll and redraw slow. Any ideas how to analyze this issue?
[10:54] <stsc_> where am I ?
[10:54] <fryguy> goog: are you running compiz?
[10:54] <zaggynl> the internet, welcome
[10:54] <Arrowhead212002> in #ubuntu
[10:54] <goog> fryguy: i dont know
[10:55] <Arrowhead212002> lol funny stuff here http://www.wwwdotcom.com
[10:55] <fryguy> goog: do you have 3d desktop effects enabled
[10:55] <Neaai> Kozeris: from what it seems I'd think you have sda with sda1(ntfs) and sda2(ntfs) and then sdb with sdb1(ext3)  sdb2(ext3) and sdb3(swap). Where have you installed the grub loader ?
[10:55] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> How can i see if im using ati dirvers?
[10:55] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> -+
[10:55] <goog> fryguy: i have no idea. i dont see anything 3d.
[10:55] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Erm, sorry bout that last line.
[10:55] <fryguy> CoUrPsE|DeAd: /var/Log/Xorg.0.log and look to see what driver is getting used
[10:55] <fryguy> CoUrPsE|DeAd: i'm not sure of a more straightforward way
[10:55] <Lou_> The problem is:
[10:55] <Lou_> When I start my computer it boots fine, Kubuntu starts loading, and then about 1/4 of the way through the loading process it gives this message:
[10:55] <Lou_> init: Unable to execute “/bin/sh” for rc-default: Permission denied
[10:55] <Lou_> init: rc-default main process (4313) terminated with status 255
[10:55] <FloodBot1> Lou_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:55] <Lou_> Here is what I did that messed it up:
[10:56] <Lou_> 2 days ago somehow I missed up my computer's USB flashdrive-detecting settings. I think it happened because I tried to get my wireless Internet connection working, but I don't know for sure what I did that could have missed up the USB part of my system.
[10:56] <pixelated> CoUrPsE|DeAd, try 'glxinfo'
[10:56] <goog> It all happened when i hit "ctrl+alt+backspace" and then my system said it now runs in low graphic mode and i said "configure" and choosed "lcd panel 1280x1024" which is the resolution i always used.
[10:56] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: you can see in a log file...  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:56] <fryguy> goog: system | preferences | appearance
[10:56] <hischild> Lou_, don't paste and keep it on one line.
[10:56] <goog> fryguy: i use a german system. can i somehow switch to english?
[10:57] <FluxD> Hi, can anyone suggest me a cli partition editor that allows resizing
[10:57] <fryguy> goog: no idea
[10:57] <fryguy> FluxD: gparted has a command line interface i think
[10:57] <Lou_> hischild, Sorry, I didn't know. I'm new.
[10:57] <FluxD> fryguy, whats it called?
[10:57] <hischild> Lou_, np, we all did it once
[10:57] <Neaai> goog: when you issue "ls" the writings of the output are in german ?
[10:57] <nightmareshadow> i wonder myself how i would get my wireless network card to run on my ubuntu laptop
[10:57] <FluxD> !gparted
[10:58] <FluxD> !parted
[10:58] <goog> Neaai: yes
[10:58] <FluxD> !partition
[10:58] <fryguy> FluxD: gnu parted
[10:58] <ikonia> fryguy: when you boot from the livecd, is it totally unusable from teh moment you boot or does it hang say 2 minutes after ?
[10:58] <Lou_> hischild, Would you happen to know the answer to my problem?
[10:58] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: i'm not so sure it's available in Intrepid. it's normally just called, parted. but i don't see it available
[10:58] <fryguy> it hangs within 1 second of seeing gnome desktop
[10:58] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> is glx the ati driver?
[10:58] <hischild> Lou_, does it boot fine?
[10:58] <fryguy> ikonia: i have to mash ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a vty before my keyboard freezes
[10:59] <Lou_> hischild, nope
[10:59] <Neaai> goog: I'd think not only the locale settings for you are in german, but also the binaries are compiled in german, but I'm not sure. if this is the case, to switch to english you'd have to reinstall, I'm affraid.
[10:59] <fryguy> CoUrPsE|DeAd: glx is a specification for 3d acceleration
[10:59] <pixelated> CoUrPsE|DeAd, no, it is a graphic api
[10:59] <ikonia> fryguy: once you have the vty is the keyboard dead in that
[10:59] <fryguy> ikonia: nope
[10:59] <fryguy> ikonia: keyboard works fine
[10:59] <onetinsoldier> Doh! parted is available! i don't know if it's a new addition or what, coulda swore it wasn't there several days ago
[10:59] <Neaai> goog: but I'm not sure, you have to confirm and verify this theory.
[10:59] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Coz everytime i boot it says that the config file was not found, it gives me options to boot in low lvl detail, create config or cancel,
[10:59] <ikonia> fryguy: from that vty can you "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[10:59] <fryguy> ikonia: and then it dies as soon as I switch back to gui
[10:59] <hischild> Lou_, not sure actually, the channel would be your best bet as i've got to go for a bit.
[10:59] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> i then click creare config, and it says use generic config, or customize config, or cancel.
[11:00] <fryguy> ikonia: so you want me to get back on the normal installer?
[11:00] <goog> Neaai: i think its somehow possible to change gnome to english. but i dont know how.
[11:00] <Lou_> hischild, the channel?
[11:00] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Everything i do doesnt work except boot in low detail mode.
[11:00] <Lou_> hischild, what do you mean?
[11:00] <hischild> Lou_, yes. Ask the question, all on one line, without a name with it. If anyone knows, they'll answer.
[11:00] <goog> is there some way to reconfigure the display? which driver is used etc?
[11:01] <Lou_> hischild, Ok. Thanks
[11:01] <fryguy> goog: you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:01] <Neaai> goog: for gnome most probably you'd have to change the locale.
[11:01] <sasi> hi, any one can tell me about how to change the debian language in distro
[11:01] <goog> Neaai: how?
[11:01] <sasi> hi, any one can tell me about how to change the debian language in distro building
[11:01] <onetinsoldier> goog: try   sudo language-selector
[11:01] <ikonia> fryguy: seems like worth a go
[11:01] <bazhang> sasi, debian?
[11:01] <ikonia> sasi: thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:01] <gizmo_> where can i get ubuntu shirt im from brunei darussalam
[11:01] <telaviv> thanks alot fryguy exactly what i wanted!
[11:01] <gizmo_> :x
[11:01] <fryguy> ikonia: k, booting it in a sec
[11:02] <goog> onetinsoldier: bash: language-selector: command not found
[11:02] <Neaai> goog: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:02] <onetinsoldier> sasi: try   sudo language-selector
[11:02] <Lou_> When I start my computer it boots fine, Kubuntu starts loading, and then about 1/4 of the way through the loading process it gives this message:
[11:02] <gizmo_> :)
[11:02] <onetinsoldier> goog: apt-cache search language-selector
[11:02] <goog> onetinsoldier: bash: language-selector: command not found
[11:02] <gizmo> how to register my nick
[11:02] <hischild> !register | gizmo
[11:02] <Lou_> init: Unable to execute “/bin/sh” for rc-default: Permission denied
[11:02] <goog> onetinsoldier: language-selector - Language selector for ubuntu linux
[11:02] <onetinsoldier> goog: apt-cache search language-selector  ..if it's there, then...  apt-get install language-selector
[11:03] <sasi> onetinsoldier, it is in ubuntu or debian
[11:03] <Lou_> init: rc-default main process (4313) terminated with status 255
[11:03] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Theres alot of VESA in the log.
[11:03] <nightmareshadow> !register
[11:03] <FluxD> Hi, can anyone suggest me a cli partition editor that allows resizing
[11:03] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Im assuming im use VESA and not the ati ?
[11:03] <pixelated> CoUrPsE|DeAd, probly
[11:03] <fryguy> FluxD: i already told you, gnu parted
[11:03] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Hum, how can i tell what drivers there are to choose from?
[11:03] <ehama> CoUrPsE|DeAd, I had the same issue and using the command " sudo apt-get remove --purge xorg-driver-fglrx" I was able to boot with high resolution again. But let others say what they think first.
[11:03] <FluxD> fryguy, any other? or a tutorial to use it?
[11:03] <Neaai> fryguy: does parted work in textmode only ?
[11:03] <onetinsoldier> sasi: i only know for sure it's in ubuntu. might be in debian too
[11:04] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> ehama, So u still run no ati driver then?
[11:04] <sasi> bazhang, yes in debian while building using live-helper
[11:04] <fryguy> FluxD: it comes with documentation, also just look at the homepage for the project: http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/index.shtml
[11:04] <bazhang> sasi, ask in #debian not here
[11:04] <pixelated> CoUrPsE|DeAd, what video card do you have?
[11:04] <ehama> CoUrPsE|DeAd, yes I have never been able to enable 3d acceleration
[11:05] <industrialbs> How do I get the kernel sources using apt-get ?
[11:05] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> radeon 9700 pro.
[11:05] <Neaai> industrialbs: most probably you're needing build-essentials
[11:05] <ehama> CoUrPsE|DeAd, and I've got a Radeon Mobility 9000 on HP nx9110 notebook.
[11:05] <sasi> onetinsoldier, you are telling at the time of logging in
[11:05] <industrialbs> Neaai: I'll give it a shot thanks
[11:05] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Hummm.
[11:06] <CurlySurmudgeon> Wow, busy room (1262 noses here)
[11:07] <sasi> bazhang, ok
[11:07] <Lou_> Ok, I did it correctly this time. Please help if you can. Here is the pastebin URL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/88439/
[11:07] <pixelated> CoUrPsE|DeAd, seems that card uses the fglrx driver
[11:07] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> So how can i enable it?
[11:07] <Lou_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88439/
[11:08] <sparcio> is acpi wakeup available in ubuntu
[11:09] <sparcio> is acpi wakeup available in ubuntu
[11:09] <sparcio> is acpi wakeup available in ubuntu
[11:09] <pixelated> CoUrPsE|DeAd, it 'SHOULD' automatically use it for that card
[11:10] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Hum, feeling like it hasnt, :(
[11:10] <bazhang> sparcio, dont repeat
[11:10] <pixelated> CoUrPsE|DeAd, can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[11:10] <sparcio> if u have some free time i want to talk you about a great idea
[11:10] <sparcio> is acpi wakeup available in ubuntu
[11:10] <bazhang> sparcio, plesae chat in #ubuntu-offtopic re: great idea
[11:11] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Yep sure, is there a select all key shortcut?
[11:11] <pixelated> CoUrPsE|DeAd, crtl-a maybe?
[11:11] <Terralthra> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ctrl-a
[11:11] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Hummm, not worin in nano.
[11:11] <pixelated> i use ggVG but dont thing that would work for you
[11:11] <sparcio> is acpi wakeup available in ubuntu
[11:12] <sparcio> is acpi wakeup available in ubuntu
[11:12] <bazhang> !repeat | sparcio
[11:13] <sparcio> is acpi wakeup available in ubuntu
[11:13] <Lou_> bazhang, How can I use the command line without loading Kubuntu?
[11:13] <pixelated> CoUrPsE|DeAd, look at this link  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285960   see the section that mentions ati/fglrx ? you should have a similar section
[11:13] <sparcio> ok fuk
[11:13] <sparcio> now fukoff
[11:13] <sparcio> why dont u fuk off
[11:13]  * pixelated looks for the boot
[11:13] <bazhang> sparcio, dont use that language here
[11:13] <sparcio> fuking fukoff
[11:13] <unop> !ops
[11:13] <fryguy> ikonia: ok, openssh is installed and i am connected. do you want me to go to the gui and freeze it now?
[11:14] <Algyz> Hi, why my swap is not mounting during start?
[11:14] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> http://pastebin.com/m800d644
[11:14] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: did you say that you installed the proprietary ati driver? or are you trying to use a built-in(comes with ubuntu and Xorg) Xorg driver?
[11:14] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> um.
[11:14] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> i tried to install a proprietary driver i think.
[11:15] <GarethAdams> Hey, `ssh remote.example.com -R 8080:orion:80` should make localhost:8080 on my local machine forward to orion:80 from the remote server's point of view, right?
[11:15] <pixelated> CoUrPsE|DeAd, yes it is using your ati card (and the fglrx driver)
[11:16] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: were you supposed to post your xorg.conf file, because that's not it... that's the Xorg log file... but still a good one for people to look at
[11:16] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> whoops.
[11:16] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> sorry, thought u wanted log file.
[11:16]  * CoUrPsE|DeAd posts xorg.conf
[11:16] <pixelated> CoUrPsE|DeAd, pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and the output of 'glxinfo | head -10'
[11:16] <pixelated> log file is helpful
[11:17] <absence> hi! everything was fine with my ubuntu install, but after i moved, completely regular LAN networking does not work. it works in windows, but not ubuntu. does anyonw know what could be wrong and how i can troubleshoot it?
[11:17] <onetinsoldier> pixelated: what makes you think he X is using the fglrx driver? looks like vesa driver to me
[11:17] <kbrooks> GarethAdams, no
[11:18] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> http://pastebin.com/m4f4c347f
[11:18] <kbrooks> GarethAdams, -L does that
[11:18] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> That xorg file looks bare...
[11:18] <GarethAdams> kbrooks: ah, thanks
[11:18] <kbrooks> GarethAdams: but
[11:19] <pixelated> onetinsoldier, read a bit above where the VESA stuff starts and it says it loads the fglrx driver
[11:19] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: i know how to get that fixed(the bare xorg.conf file).. but it concerns taking several steps
[11:19] <onetinsoldier> pixelated: ok.. perhaps i missed it. sorry. let me take a closer look
[11:20] <GarethAdams> kbrooks: but?
[11:20] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> onetinsoldier, go gentle, im newb.
[11:20] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> :(
[11:20] <kbrooks> GarethAdams: -R means remote. so 8080 is on the server, not on the local machine. so in other words, there must be a host named orion on your network for that to work
[11:20] <fryguy> ikonia:
[11:20] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: roger... i'll be back in a few
[11:20] <Algyz> And why swap uuid changing after restart, maybe this is the reason, why it is not mounted?
[11:20] <ikonia> fryguy: yup
[11:21] <Lou_> Would anyone here happen to know how to get to a command line or terminal BEFORE/WITHOUT loading Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[11:21] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> H'es running away isnt he?
[11:21] <GarethAdams> kbrooks: yeah, that's how it is, I just got confused between -R and -L
[11:21] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> heh.
[11:21] <fryguy> ikonia: do you want me to switch back to gui and freeze it while i'm on ssh?
[11:21] <kbrooks> GarethAdams, heh :-)
[11:21] <ikonia> fryguy start an iostat and a vmstate in 2 windows first
[11:21] <ikonia> fryguy: then have a third on stanby
[11:21] <ikonia> standby
[11:22] <pixelated> onetinsoldier, your right it isnt useing it...
[11:22] <Sonaquela> i neeed a software to do streaming radio
[11:22] <Arrowhead212002> will magiciso run on ubuntu 8.04
[11:22] <Sonaquela> or connect a shoutcast server
[11:22] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> the xorg file says its not.
[11:22] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> and so does the glxinfo
[11:23] <Algyz> Arrowhead212002,  use gmountiso
[11:23] <Algyz> Arrowhead212002,  or acetoneiso
[11:23] <onetinsoldier> pixelated: ok, roger.. you had me taking a REAL close look, andi wasn't finding it :-)
[11:23] <Arrowhead212002> lol thanks again guys
[11:24] <bening> how i can change my nickname, if I use ubuntu hardy heron. anyone can help me.. please
[11:24] <fryguy> ikonia: ok, iostat and vmstat are running, i just switched back to gui, and console froze, now what?
[11:24] <fryguy> err, and gui froze, the ssh sessions are still active and functioning
[11:24] <fryguy> bening: nickname for what
[11:24] <pixelated> CoUrPsE|DeAd, this is 'roughly' what your device section for the video card should look like  http://pastebin.com/d65527d96
[11:24] <ikonia> fryguy any chances in them
[11:24] <Lou_> Please help. http://paste.ubuntu.com/88439/
[11:24] <fryguy> ikonia: no
[11:25] <bening> I am using x chat GNOME
[11:25] <fryguy> bening: /nick newname
[11:25] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: first... you are going to want to get a fully configured xorg.conf file
[11:25] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> in the xorg or in glxinfo ?
[11:25] <pixelated> onetinsoldier, if you wanna look it over and give an yeah/nay go for it
[11:25] <axyjo> hi all, is it just me or are the apt servers slow today?
[11:25] <pixelated> CoUrPsE|DeAd, in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:25] <Arrowhead212002> no i agree with you
[11:25] <Arrowhead212002> they are a lil slow
[11:26] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Now, if i put that in the xorg.conf
[11:26] <tiyowan> axyjo: I'm experiencing severe lag today.
[11:26] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> can i run glxinfo straight afterwards to check if its worked?
[11:26] <axyjo> Arrowhead212002: they're a lot slow.. my apts are coming in at 4KBps!
[11:26] <onetinsoldier> pixelated: that looks good, but he needs a good starting point imo. by that i mean a configured xorg.conf file besides just the driver section
[11:27] <absence> networking in ubuntu has suddenly stopped working. everything was fine with my ubuntu install, but after i moved, completely regular LAN networking does not work. it works in windows, but not ubuntu. does anyonw know what could be wrong and how i can troubleshoot it?
[11:27] <bening> PLEASE guys help me..
[11:27] <bening> thank you fryguy i'll try
[11:27] <dwitaaa> has it changed
[11:27] <fryguy> dwitaaa: yes
[11:27] <pixelated> onetinsoldier, true, but that is an example, to let him know what the section 'SHOULD' look like
[11:27] <onetinsoldier> pixelated: yes.. in that regards... looks good
[11:27] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Should i smoke before this?
[11:27] <axyjo> and it isn't just one mirror, i've tried quite a few
[11:27] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: oh yes
[11:27] <pixelated> CoUrPsE|DeAd, yes you can c&p it in an run the glxinfo and see if it works
[11:27] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> okies.
[11:28] <pixelated> i have one in hand now...
[11:28] <pixelated> brown tobacco not 'green' tho
[11:28] <fryguy> ikonia: anything else I should be trying?  Restarting gdm and killing X from ssh doesnt' change anything
[11:28] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> glxinfo still giving same error.
[11:29] <pixelated> CoUrPsE|DeAd, need to restart the xserver before checking it
[11:29] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) Major opcode of failed request:  143 (GLX)
[11:29] <CoUrPsE|DeAd>   Minor opcode of failed request:  19 (X_GLXQueryServerString)  Serial number of failed request:  10
[11:29] <CoUrPsE|DeAd>  Current serial number in output stream:  10
[11:29] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Im not that keen.
[11:29] <pixelated> CoUrPsE|DeAd, dont paste in channel
[11:29] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> To restart and not be able to get back.
[11:29] <jgb> when I run  "git clone --reference /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.27/ git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-intrepid.git" I get "fatal: reference repository '/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.27/' is not a local directory.", although it obviously is.  What is the problem?
[11:29] <EugenMayer> actaully to install the current sun java SDK, how is that one called? java EE SDK?
[11:29] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> i didnt mean to paste it like that.
[11:29] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> i tried to paste to one line.
[11:29] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Sorry, :(
[11:30] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Maybe i need to install irssi just incase i stuff up something.
[11:31] <pixelated> CoUrPsE|DeAd, or telnet if your a 'Real Man' ;'D
[11:31] <dwitaaa> yess.. it works
[11:31] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> True, telnet will be fine.
[11:31] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> i just cant see how bad my typos are.
[11:32] <pixelated> i havnt telneted to a irc server in years
[11:32] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> I have, the other day when i broke my fedora box.
[11:32] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> lol.
[11:32] <kk_ubuntu> hello i have a problem in installing extentions for openoffice.  I want to install the latest postgresqlsdbc driver because the one coming with ubuntu hardy is out of date.  Now I want to know where in ubuntu is the folder for putting the extention?
[11:32] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> irssi wasnt working either.
[11:33] <pixelated> hmmm fedora...
[11:33] <goog> hmm... I installed language-selector but when i do "language-selector" i still get "bash: language-selector: command not found".
[11:33] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> I really like fedora, seems faster than ubuntu.
[11:33] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> But i shouldnt say that yet, i aint got gfx going properly on here.
[11:34] <Quintin> Can someone here with 2 different physical disks copy a large file between them and tell me what speed it goes at please?
[11:34] <pixelated> Quintin, ~2MB/sec
[11:34] <Quintin> pixelated: ATA disks?
[11:34] <fryguy> Quintin: about 270MB/sec here
[11:34] <pixelated> yes
[11:35] <Quintin> fryguy: what kind of hardware?
[11:35] <fryguy> Quintin: samsung spinpoints, 750GB
[11:35] <Quintin> oh and do copy in nautilus yea
[11:35] <Lou_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88439/
[11:35] <axyjo> anyone got solutions to slow apt-gets?
[11:36] <Quintin> fryguy: is that some fancy pants new drive that is very fast?
[11:36] <shavin> I just downloaded a number of updates to my ubuntu 8.10, Now firefox has started bahving strangely. A message bar pops up that firefox has been updated and requires a restart, and yet if i restart firefox the same appears again!
[11:36] <fryguy> Quintin: no, they are standard 7200rpm sata drives, i just have a lot of them
[11:36] <pixelated> axyjo, yeah drop the modem and get high speed inet?
[11:36] <onetinsoldier> shavin: i know how to fix that
[11:36] <Quintin> axyjo: uhm... that's probably a slow internet connection
[11:36] <Quintin> fryguy: elaborate?
[11:36] <fryguy> Quintin: raid array of them
[11:36] <unop> axyjo, use a different mirror
[11:36] <ikonia> fryguy: sorry, was just on the phone
[11:37] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Um.
[11:37] <Hikefu> shavin, try killall firefox from the terminal and then start it again. See if it goes away.
[11:37] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> onetinsoldier, Were you still gunna help me with xorg.conf?
[11:37] <Quintin> fryguy: I said 2 physical disks :P   you didn't even do test right
[11:37] <shavin> would a system restart solve something? additionally this firefox is very buggy too, it freezes a lot and there is a second or two of corrupted graphics before the window is displayed right in the beginning when it is started
[11:37] <ikonia> fryguy: what does the gdm log show ?
[11:37] <fryguy> ikonia: i went back to the alternative install while you were gone, and managed to get it to complete, no idea how
[11:37] <onetinsoldier> shavin: in a terminal, go into your home directory. then type in   mv .mozilla .mozilla-restart
[11:37] <ikonia> fryguy how odd
[11:37] <axyjo> pixelated: meh, i've got a 1mbps connection, can't afford anything faster in a country with the second most expensive internet (apparently)
[11:37] <shavin> okay
[11:37] <Quintin> I have a sw RAID0 with 2x80gb and a 500gb , but it's still not fast enough :(
[11:37] <onetinsoldier> shavin: close Firefox first
[11:37] <fryguy> ikonia: and now i'm having the same graphical issue on an installed system lol
[11:37] <axyjo> unop: i've tried 3, all of them are slow.
[11:37] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: i can... yes
[11:37] <fryguy> ikonia: doing updates now, and installing the restricted driver from cli to see if that resolves it
[11:38] <axyjo> Quintin: all of the other apps on the same system are normal
[11:38] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> That would be cool if ya did, :)
[11:38] <unop> axyjo, ok, what is "slow" ?
[11:38] <fryguy> Quintin: I copied between 2 block devices :/
[11:38] <Quintin> fryguy: from the raid to the raid?  Or from raid to a diff disk?
[11:38] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Or was what pixelated pasted going to work fine?
[11:39] <fryguy> Quintin: from one raid array to another
[11:39] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok.. roger. np. you mentioned Fedora. you said you are kinda newb but it actually sounds like you have some linux experience
[11:39] <Quintin> fryguy: ah.  how many disks do you have?  hw or sw?
[11:39] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yeah, but not much.
[11:39] <fryguy> one of them is hw, i haven't ported it over to sw yet, one of them i just finished porting over to sw the other day
[11:39] <fryguy> Quintin: 5 disks each
[11:40] <Quintin> fryguy: in one box?  I want to see your case. :P   you prefer sw to hw?
[11:40] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: roger... save waht pixelated showed you in a separate file all on it's own for now
[11:40] <onetinsoldier> what*
[11:40] <fryguy> Quintin: zfs is better than any hardware solution i've seen.
[11:40] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> done.
[11:41] <fryguy> Quintin: it's a lot better than the software raid setups that ubuntu/linux provides
[11:41] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> i had already stuck it in xorg.conf, i just made xorg.conf-bak
[11:41] <Quintin> fryguy: pix :P
[11:41] <Quintin> fryguy: better in what sense of the word?
[11:41] <pixelated> onetinsoldier, someones xorg.conf useing a 9700PRO can be found here  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285960
[11:41] <moijk> the bluefish from cvs asks for a gnome_vfs for url-wrappers. how do i install that, if not already there with the system - then how to configure it?
[11:41] <onetinsoldier> pixelated: ok. roger. perhaps that will work without all the steps i was going to have him do
[11:42] <fryguy> Quintin: faster, better data redundancy, more flexible for file sharing and disk reallocation, on the fly quota/compression/reservation support
[11:42] <pixelated> onetinsoldier, yeah thats why i offered it ;')
[11:42] <pixelated> <-- former org.conf guy for a ppc distro of linux ;')
[11:42] <Quintin> fryguy: what do you need such great disk thruput for?
[11:43] <fryguy> Quintin: I don't. I use it for the better data redundancy and reliability features
[11:43] <onetinsoldier> pixelated: ahh, that's too old
[11:43] <Quintin> fryguy: So is your / on zfs?
[11:43] <fryguy> Quintin: no
[11:43] <onetinsoldier> pixelated: thanks for trying tho! :-)
[11:43] <fryguy> Quintin: i'm running freebsd, not solaris, no support for / in zfs on freebsd until 8.0
[11:43] <Flannel> fryguy, Quintin: mind taking it to #ubuntu-offtopic?  thanks
[11:43] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok, you ready?
[11:43] <quanlitruong> Hello all :)
[11:44] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Yep.
[11:44] <fryguy> Quintin: so anyway, that's why i use what i use instead of the ubuntu offerings
[11:44] <pixelated> onetinsoldier, yeah my knowledge is more using ADB or USB kb's and the such, which i would bet he doesnt have ADB kb
[11:44] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: put this all down in a file in your home dir.... ok? you know how to use 'less', correct?
[11:44] <pkd> in which programming language is a c compiler written?
[11:44] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yep.
[11:44] <onetinsoldier> pixelated: roger
[11:44] <pkd> plz
[11:45] <fryguy> Flannel: is mentioning nexenta ontopic, or should I bring that to offtopic as well (since it uses ubuntu repositories)
[11:45] <pixelated> pkd, usually c
[11:45] <pkd> how is that possible
[11:45] <Flannel> fryguy: If it's support related, it's on topic.
[11:45] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok, give me just a minute here ok?
[11:45] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yep, np.
[11:46] <quanlitruong> I can uses LCD LG 17in with resolutinon 1440 x 900 in Ubuntu, hic hic :(
[11:46] <pkd> which language did K & R use to write their c compiler>
[11:46] <pixelated> pkd, nothing magical, just takes c source in and put binary out, older version compiles newer version of c compiler
[11:46] <pixelated> pkd, they used K&R C
[11:46] <Quintin> fryguy: What is the rest of the hardware?
[11:46] <Flannel> pkd: It's called bootstrapping, and there's a few ways to do it.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootstrapping_(compilers)  briefly covers a few of them, but this isn't really topical.  You should try #ubuntu-offtopic instead
[11:46] <fryguy> Quintin: if you are looking at other data integrity solutions and still want the general feel of ubuntu, the nexenta project is a port of the solaris kernel to the ubuntu repositories, to get over the licensing restriction of zfs.  It's goal is to basically allow one to use the zfs filesystem in ubuntu.  Something worth considering for data integrity
[11:47] <pkd> thank u for this help
[11:47] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok,as i said, several steps to take here. you will be leaving x-windows and shutting it down. then firing it back up when your are done.
[11:47] <pixelated> pkd, or the channel #C
[11:47] <Quintin> fryguy: is your setup raid5 like?  I'm using sw raid0.  My concern is SPEED, not data integrity.  I hate waiting on computer
[11:47] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> okies.
[11:48] <unop> pkd, this might help - http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/chist.html
[11:48] <pixelated> onetinsoldier, is ddrprobe still around? or is there another way to get monitor specs?
[11:48] <fryguy> Quintin: it's raidz, a proprietary implementation of raid similar to raid5 that doesn't have the write hole, and provides a bunch of other features, some of which i mentioned
[11:48] <esko_> pkd, you can compile c in your brains too
[11:49] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: 1) Log out of X   2) Press Ctrl+Alt+F1  3) Login at console   4) sudo -i   5) invoke-rc.d gdm stop  ...there's more
[11:49] <pkd> how is that dude
[11:49] <pkd> thanks unop
[11:49] <onetinsoldier> pixelated: i don't know.. good question
[11:50]  * CoUrPsE|DeAd gets a pen and paper.
[11:50] <pkd> i am very much curious about how a programming language is developed ? any information or website plz
[11:50] <fryguy> pkd: the dragon compiler book
[11:50] <shavin> onetinsoldier: Not only did the problem did not go away, all my extension have dissappeared, chatzilla, download helper etc etc all :-(
[11:51] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: 6) Xorg -configure   7) cp -v /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf    ....you with me so far? hang on
[11:51] <fryguy> i'm trying to install restricted drivers from command line for nvidia card, how do i know if i should get 71 96 173 or 177 for my card (my card is a 6800gt)
[11:51] <pixelated> pkd, you need to read a good book on the subject, google 'compiler dragon book'
[11:51] <fryguy> pixelated: scroll up about 10 lines :)
[11:51] <shavin> and the momentary graphics ccorruption when the firefox window is displayed at start is still there too
[11:51] <pkd> ok
[11:52] <pixelated> fryguy, heh 30 years of computer use and i still dont know how to touch type... maybe one of these days i will elarn
[11:52] <onetinsoldier> shavin: ok... close out Firefox. in your home directory type in the following....  rm -r .mozilla   ...then   mv .mozilla-restart .mozilla
[11:52] <shavin> onetimsoldier: i have alreaady restarted the system. should i still do it?
[11:53] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> onetinsoldier, Got all that written down.
[11:53] <onetinsoldier> shavin: yes
[11:53] <shavin> okay
[11:53] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok, good
[11:53] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Is there more or shall i do that now?
[11:53] <onetinsoldier> shavin: that will get you your stuff back but it means i don't know how to solve the original problem
[11:53] <ehama> It seems that 3d acceleration with my graphic card (Radeon 9000 Mobility) is only available with Mesa drivers. Is it worth trying? Like compiling X-Server and DRI etc. Or is it likely that I may crash the screen? Since the guides are scattered I think I may miss some points.
[11:54] <vermont> every time I open firefox it goes full screen and I can't even minimize it or get to my taskbars
[11:55] <shavin> onetinsoldier: okay thats done. should i restart ff now?
[11:55] <ehama> vermont, that seems the new bug in 3.0.5. I had the same issue.
[11:55] <ikonia> ehama: recompiling X won't change anything
[11:55] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: 8) invoke-rc.d gdm start   ....then come back here.   i hope i haven't left anything out, i don't think i have
[11:55] <vermont> ehama, was there a workaround?
[11:55] <onetinsoldier> shavin: yes, sure
[11:55] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> k, go now?
[11:55] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: yep, good luck!
[11:55] <ehama> ikonia, but it says using the "--with-mesa-source=/path/to/mesa " will enable opengl support.
[11:55] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Thanks, brb.
[11:56] <CAiRO> when i run "vim.gnome" in my gnome-terminal, it runs a console version of vim instead of the gui version.. how can i get vim.gnome to actually pop up the gvim editor?
[11:56] <ikonia> ehama: can't see it makign a difference
[11:56] <shavin> onetinsoldier: momentary corrupted graphics at startup of firefox are there, the message bar 'restart required' is still there too.
[11:56] <fryguy> CAiRO: try running gvim instead, or vim.gnome -g
[11:56] <pixelated> CAiRO, gvim
[11:56] <ehama> vermont, seems like renaming .mozilla folder first, then running firefox, and again renaming it to .mozilla and running again seems to solve the problem.
[11:56] <fryguy> CAiRO: or run :gui after it initially starts up
[11:57] <onetinsoldier> shavin: as i said.. it would get you your stuff back, but i do not know how to solve the original problem
[11:57] <CAiRO> fryguy: ah, ok, i can put that in my .vimrc
[11:57] <CAiRO> thanks
[11:57] <vermont> ehama, nvm...pressing f11 works
[11:57] <shavin> Oh yes, chatzilla etc have returned , well thats good
[11:57] <CAiRO> i want to type vi to start vi.. and right now vi starts vim.gnome
[11:57] <ehama> ikonia, so do you think there is another way to enable 3d acceleration?
[11:58] <ehama> vermont, but every time I restart the buttons still seemed inaccessable. Maybe you don't have that problem.
[11:58] <onetinsoldier> shavin: ok, that's good. you will have to find someone else that hopefully know how to fix your 'restart required' problem. sorry
[11:59] <shavin> onetinsoldier: thanks for your help.
[11:59] <onetinsoldier> shavin: ok, good luck
[11:59] <vermont> ehama, nevermind, you are right. f11 is a temp fix. thanks for your suggestion I'll implement it right now
[12:00] <ehama> vermont, you are welcome.
[12:00] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> right.
[12:01] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> failed to load module "fgl.renamed.libdri" ( Doesnt exist 0)
[12:01] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> failed to load module "fgl.renamed.libglx" ( Doesnt exist 0)
[12:01] <Defined> can anyone tell me how to get the uptime of a network interface like a ppp connection?
[12:01] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> upon invoke-rc.d gmd start
[12:02] <pixelated> onetinsoldier, http://pastebin.com/d734b8ca7   i was playing in vim
[12:02] <onetinsoldier> pixelated: i'll have a look! :-)
[12:04] <onetinsoldier> pixelated: rofl! interesting that you did this... as i have done this for people a few times now and so I decided to copy and paste my instructions from Xchat into a file after i finished. then i come back to see this!! lol
[12:04] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Um, Hi.
[12:05] <woody86> is there a way to keep Firefox from freezing while uploading to photobucket or flickr?
[12:05] <pixelated> onetinsoldier, yeah it is something that has been repeated often
[12:05] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: hello
[12:05] <onetinsoldier> pixelated: i see....
[12:05] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Did ya see my errors i typed out for ya?
[12:05] <pixelated> onetinsoldier, its only a 24 hour paste
[12:05] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: no.. hang on
[12:05] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: where are they?
[12:05] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Just above pixelated's pastebin url.
[12:07] <whitepatchesligh> intelligent life on?
[12:08] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: when i do this, i have had people that have NOT had the fglrx driver already installed. now, you can either uninstall the fglrx driver and do this again. or, it may be possible to fix this if you pastebin you new xorg.conf file, and we may need to see the log file as well
[12:08] <Lou_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88439/
[12:08] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Is there a way to check if i do have it installed?
[12:08] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> im pretty sure i do thou.
[12:08] <onetinsoldier> pixelated: hehe, roger. i'm saving mine as a file on my hdd
[12:09] <pixelated> onetinsoldier, did that too
[12:09] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: yes.. go to  /usr/share/ati
[12:09] <whitepatchesligh> .
[12:09] <onetinsoldier> pixelated: roger that!
[12:09] <Smegzor> Where do I tell Ubuntu to use GDM instead of KDM.  I currently login with KDM into Gnome.
[12:09] <pixelated> 7:12 i need to go to bed, nite
[12:10] <shavin> Guys how do i uninstall firefox and install is afresh?
[12:10] <aoupi> Smegzor: /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[12:10] <onetinsoldier> Smegzor: update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
[12:10] <aoupi> Smegzor: I think
[12:10] <Smegzor> thanks
[12:10] <onetinsoldier> Smegzor: you're welcome
[12:10] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> theres fglrx.install.log and a fglrx.uninstall.sh
[12:10] <JC_Denton_> trying to run update-manage but this is what I get http://pastebin.com/m778361f2
[12:11] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> so im gathering its installed them
[12:11] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: if there's no errors in the fglrx.install.log, then it's installed
[12:11] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yeah, just opened it, errors.
[12:11] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> shit.
[12:11] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: oh!
[12:12] <jussi01> !ohmy | CoUrPsE|DeAd
[12:12] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> whhops.
[12:12] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> sorry guys.
[12:12] <troythetechguy> I installed virtualbox 1.6.4 in my Hardy install, but now want to remove 1.6.4 and install 2.0.6.  How can I do this from the CLI?  Note: I did not set up and virtual machines under 1.6.4.
[12:13] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: i don't know that i can help with a filed installation of the fglrx driver
[12:13] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: i don't know that i can help with a failed* installation of the fglrx driver
[12:13] <goog> Hey People! How can i change the tile direction in DWM the window manager? I have a horizontal split suddenly, but I would prefer a vertical split. "man dwm" doesnt say anything about it.
[12:13] <onetinsoldier> pixelated: do you think you can help?
[12:14] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> np, i'll try and get it installed.
[12:15] <Defined> can anyone tell me how to get the uptime of a network interface like a ppp connection?
[12:15] <Alili> jasdhjhasdkasjdklajd
[12:15] <telaviv> is there a command for creating an empty file with a given name?
[12:15] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.27-9-generic/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko): Cannot allocate memory
[12:15] <Defined> telaviv: nano filename
[12:15] <ardchoille> telaviv: touch file
[12:15] <ikonia> telaviv: touch
[12:15] <Defined> or touch
[12:15] <mamamamamamammam> jolas
[12:15] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Not enough memory?
[12:15] <Defined> :/
[12:15] <mamamamamamammam> alicia
[12:16] <mamamamamamammam> ya escribe
[12:16] <mamamamamamammam> si si si sis
[12:16] <FloodBot1> mamamamamamammam: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:16] <Alili> me funciome funciona mi chat
[12:16] <Alili> jeje
[12:16] <Alili> :)
[12:16] <Alili> yuhuuuuu
[12:16] <Alili> heehe
[12:16] <FloodBot1> Alili: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:16] <ikonia> mamamamamamammam: this channel is english only please
[12:16] <Alili> ok
[12:16] <Alili> ok
[12:16] <telaviv> nice !
[12:16] <ikonia> Alili: english only please
[12:16] <Defined> can anyone tell me how to get the uptime of a network interface like a ppp connection?
[12:16] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: if you want a good xorg.conf file... run the fglrx uninstaller. reboot to be sure. then go through the steps i gave you. that will give you a good base xorg.conf file
[12:16] <ardchoille> Alili and mamamamamamammam are the same ip
[12:16] <ikonia> Defined you can't do it like that
[12:16] <Alili> yes
[12:16] <Alili> becouse
[12:16] <ikonia> ardchoille: aware of that
[12:17] <Alili> i student informatic
[12:17] <Defined> ikonia: well how can i do it then?
[12:17] <Alili> and y do a chat irc
[12:17] <onetinsoldier> to +b or not to +b, that is the +q
[12:17] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> ii dont think i got fglrx installed?
[12:17] <Defined> i need to know how long my ppp connection has been connected...
[12:17] <Alili> and i cand ai chek it
[12:17] <ikonia> Defined use tools like conky to monitor it
[12:17] <Alili> and a i chek it
[12:17] <Defined> :/
[12:17] <Alili> sorry
[12:17] <stephens> keyboard mapping help
[12:17] <Defined> ikonia: dont the plog have dates in?
[12:17] <Defined> wont*
[12:18] <ikonia> Defined: plog ?
[12:18] <ikonia> Defined: the syslog will say when a card was brough up in terms of a link
[12:18] <onetinsoldier> pixelated: where did you go?
[12:18] <stephens> shoot i haven
[12:18] <djamel> new year's resolution : 1280x1024 :)
[12:19] <Defined> ikonia: i dont know the actual file's name but if you type plog, it shows the last x lines in the ppp log file
[12:19] <ikonia> no idea what plog is
[12:19] <Defined> !plog
[12:19] <stephens> shoot I haven't used IRC for a while... whats the command for change in room... /"what goes here"?
[12:19] <Defined> :/
[12:19] <troythetechguy> I installed virtualbox 1.6.4 in my Hardy install, but now want to remove 1.6.4 and install 2.0.6.  How can I do this from the CLI?  Note: I did not set up and virtual machines under 1.6.4.
[12:19] <onetinsoldier> stephens:  /join #<channel_name>
[12:20] <stephens> thanks
[12:20] <magnetron> troythetechguy→ either use synaptic (graphical) or use aptitude
[12:20] <stephens> j works too right?
[12:20] <onetinsoldier> stephens: yep
[12:20] <Defined> ikonia: /usr/bin/plog
[12:20] <ikonia> no idea what plog is
[12:20] <stephens> thank you... geeze beens so long lol...
[12:20] <onetinsoldier> hehe
[12:20] <Alili> hello
[12:21] <troythetechguy> magnetron: The problem is I installed 1.0.6 via CLI so I don't believe I can us synaptic to remove it.
[12:21] <Defined> Alili: go away
[12:21] <ikonia> Defined stop that
[12:21] <Defined> ikonia: its a small bash script that uses tail to display ppp.log or syslog's ppp info
[12:21] <ikonia> Defined: he is entitled to be here
[12:21] <bullgard4> Wie findet man gute Anleitungen, wie man seinen Ubuntu-Rechner "ausmisten" sollte (von überflüsigen Dateien befreien)?
[12:21] <magnetron> troythetechguy→ you can
[12:21] <vermont> ehama, I fixed it if you're still on I'll tell you how
[12:21] <ikonia> bullgard4 come on, you know it's english here
[12:22] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> onetinsoldier, Will i have to redownload drivers?
[12:22] <magnetron> troythetechguy→ as long as you installed it as a .deb package (or via the APT system)
[12:22] <Defined> oh sorry Alili: i thought you were someone else
[12:22] <CAiRO> how can i pin locally installed packages so they override packages from ubuntu's online repository?
[12:22] <genady12> hey
[12:22] <stephens> can somebody help me modify a keyboard mapping?
[12:22] <Alili> oein?
[12:22] <Gast175> ahoj pot0159ebuju radu
[12:22] <ardchoille> !pinning | CAiRO
[12:22] <magnetron> CAiRO→ use synaptic, right click on the package and lock version
[12:22] <genady12> marble wont compile?
[12:22] <bullgard4> ikonia: sri
[12:22] <Alili> sorry but i don't spekaing englis very good
[12:22] <ikonia> Alili what language do you speak
[12:22] <Alili> spanish
[12:22] <vermont> If anyone is interested. I fixed my Firefox starting in full screen problem by: compiz -> workaround -> disable Legacy Fullscreen support
[12:23] <ikonia> Alili: try #ubuntu-es channel
[12:23] <troythetechguy> magnetron: Ah, I just checked synaptic, and it's checked as being installed.  I'll try removing it via synaptic.  Thank you.
[12:23] <ikonia> !es > Alili
[12:23] <Alili> amm ok ok but
[12:23] <stephens> I want to change some of those "special keyboard keys"
[12:23] <Alili> i chek it my chat irc
[12:23] <Stiggy> hi, im trying to get my awn window manager to work :( anyone know how to actually get the dock onto the screen?
[12:23] <onetinsoldier> vermont: interesting
[12:23] <magnetron> troythetechguy→ you're welcome
[12:23] <ikonia> Alili: type "/join #ubuntu-es"
[12:23] <Alili> becouse i student informatica
[12:23] <Alili> ok ok thank you
[12:23] <genady12> ?
[12:23] <Alili> thank you very much
[12:24] <Alili> much
[12:24] <Alili> jeje
[12:24] <Alili> :)
[12:24] <FloodBot1> Alili: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:24] <Defined> ikonia: why would syslog restart?
[12:24] <Bullterd> Afternoon All
[12:24] <Stiggy> ladies!!, please help :O, i want my osx dock :'(
[12:24] <ikonia> Defined: restarts on boot, crash or manual restart
[12:24] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: no.. no need to redownload the driver installer file
[12:24] <Bullterd> How would I use the date() command to find the date seven days ago ?
[12:24] <ikonia> Stiggy: thats macos then,
[12:24] <Stiggy> macros? another program?
[12:24] <ikonia> bullgard4: there is a flag for that something like date -c 7
[12:24] <ikonia> bullgard4: sorry, not you
[12:24] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: did you reboot after installing the driver?
[12:25] <Defined> ikonia: havnt rebooted or manually restarted it so i guess it must be buggy and crashed earlier today?
[12:25] <ikonia> Bullterd there is a flag for it, something like date -c 7
[12:25] <Bullterd> ikonia: Is the switch -c ?
[12:25] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> the computers since then been rebooted yes.
[12:25] <ikonia> Bullterd: check the man page
[12:25] <Bullterd> ikonia: many thanks, let me google a sec
[12:25] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> brb, i just uninstalled it.
[12:25] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> going to do your list of cmds again.
[12:25] <ikonia> Defined: syslog is normally very solid
[12:25] <CAiRO> well, maybe pinning is not the right thing.. how can i tell apt to prefer one source over another?
[12:25] <aoupi> Bullterd: I guess you could get the time in milliseconds remove 7*24*60*1000(or whatever it is) and convert back to date
[12:25] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: nvm.... there were errors. no need to reboot unless it successfully installs
[12:25] <ardchoille> Stiggy: are you using compiz?
[12:25] <Stiggy> yes
[12:26] <Defined> ikonia: at the top of the log is says syslogd bla bla Restart, and that was at 7:50am this morning
[12:26] <aoupi> Bullterd: but that would screw up daylight savings and leap years
[12:26] <CAiRO> my locally installed packages have "/var/lib/dpkg/status" as source
[12:26] <Defined> its now 2:25pm
[12:26] <Bullterd> -c doesnt appear to be a valids wich
[12:26] <CAiRO> but only get a score of "100"
[12:26] <ikonia> Defined log rotation
[12:26] <CAiRO> how can i change that?
[12:26] <ardchoille> Stiggy: try avant window navigator: sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator
[12:26] <ornatespork> Hey, I'm very sorry to ask such a broad question, but is anyone out there willing to explain to me, in language simpler than used on Wikipedia, what exactly makes switching to Ubuntu worth it? I've been a Mac user all my life, and I'm thinking about going to a different OS, and I've heard good things about Ubuntu, but I know next to nothing about it. If it's too big of a question, please don't mind me.
[12:26] <aoupi> Bullterd: no wait, it wouldn't nevermind the last part :D
[12:26] <Stiggy> ok, thanks :D
[12:26] <ikonia> Bullterd: date --date"7 days ago"
[12:27] <onetinsoldier> pixelated: where did you go?
[12:27] <ikonia> Bullterd: date --date="7 days ago"
[12:27] <Bullterd> ikonia: Are you joking?!
[12:27] <h4cker_> Hey people I got a question, for a usb drive what would be the best file system to use for ubuntu and windows?
[12:27] <ikonia> Bullterd nope
[12:27] <Bullterd> haha
[12:27] <fosco__> ornatespork: too big, just try it and decide :)
[12:27] <Bullterd> Thats genius
[12:27] <ikonia> Bullterd: date --date="yesterday"
[12:27] <Bullterd> ikonia: Cheers Buddy
[12:27] <Stiggy> hmm, gives me some error, will try the package manager
[12:27] <ikonia> Bullterd: date --date="next day"
[12:27] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> k.
[12:27] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> No errors.
[12:27] <aoupi> ikonia: hah! that's awemose
[12:27] <Bullterd> can I format it how I want though ?
[12:28] <ikonia> Bullterd: date --date='2 year ago' etc etc
[12:28] <ikonia> Bullterd: date +%m+d+%y
  probably FAT32
[12:28] <ikonia> for eample
[12:28] <Bullterd> date '+\%d-\%B-\%Y'
[12:28] <ikonia> example
[12:28] <Bullterd> Thats my current one
[12:28] <onetinsoldier> h4cker_:  they usually come formatted as fat16, which hsould be fine. but i think if you reformat it as fat32 that would be fine too
[12:28] <ikonia> date '+\%d-\%B-\%Y' --date="next day"
[12:28] <onetinsoldier> should*
[12:28] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> glxinfo brings up a whole lot of stuff now and doesnt error.
[12:28] <Bullterd> That quality
[12:28] <Bullterd> Again, Cheers Guys
[12:28] <ornatespork> Once again, sorry to be a complete newbie and ask these kinds of questions, but 1) am I able to install it on my mac computer? If so, how? 2) is there any risk to my current OS/ files/ etc. if I install a different/second system?
[12:29] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: good!
[12:29] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[12:29] <silv3r_m00n> how do i change mouse cursor ?
[12:29] <h4cker_> Thanks <piiile & onetinsoldier>
[12:29] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> onetinsoldier, :)) was there anything else to do?
[12:29] <allsystemsarego> ikonia, how about date --date="25 days from now"
[12:29] <ehama> vermont, sorry I was afk. I'm ready to listen.
[12:29] <onetinsoldier> h4cker_: you're welcome :-)
[12:30] <ikonia> allsystemsarego try it
[12:30] <M4RC0> hi (hola)
[12:30] <allsystemsarego> ikonia, I just did, "date: invalid date `25 days from now'"
[12:30] <piiile> stupid question about irc: how can you get all channels displayed?
[12:31] <piiile> "/help" doesn't mention anything
[12:31] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> in mirc?
[12:31] <NET||abuse> quick helper out on postfix issue, need to up the max message_size_limit from 10240000 to 20Mb, postfix has a default limit set that it must take from somewhere else, but /etc/postfix/main.cf doesn't have that option set,
[12:31] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> i can help, not in mirc i cant.
[12:31] <ikonia> allsystemsarego date --date='25 days' is what you want
[12:31] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: notthat i can think of right now. perhaps enable the Composite Extension. but that might not do much for you right now as you are just using the vesa driver. however, now that i think about it you might want to specify the radeon driver or whatever is the proper one for a Radeon 9700.
[12:31] <NET||abuse> can i just add message_size_limit to main.cf without borking up the config?
[12:31] <allsystemsarego> ikonia, ty
[12:31] <h4cker_> U know what I love so much about Ubuntu is how it brings people together!
[12:31] <The_Undisputable> hi all, is there any way to send data of any errors when i run live cd.......
[12:32] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yeah, i wanna be able to use my radeon correctly.
[12:32] <odog777> woah theres a grip of people in here
[12:32] <Subdolus> I just wanna run two different programs that use audio
[12:32] <Subdolus> :(
[12:32] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: unless you want to skip the Radeon driver because you want to get the fglrx driver going... that's up to you
[12:32] <Subdolus> like voip client and movie player
[12:32] <h4cker_> Ubuntu = Humanity to others!
[12:32] <fde> ornatespork: Ubuntu dropped official support for PPC afaik... as for the Intel Mac's, you would have to resize partitions more than likely, but if you create space, and ensure it doesn't touch your Mac partition during install, you'd be fine (perhaps throw another hard drive in? although GRUB can't boot off of USB devices afaik, and most Macs can't be modified)
[12:32] <Subdolus> halp
[12:32] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> well aint the radio drivers now called fglrx ?
[12:32] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> radeon*
[12:33] <DwiTa> nop one
[12:33] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> atm, im back at stage one if its using VESA driver.
[12:33] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: the 'proprietary' drivers from ati is called flgrx. but it's not the only driver on the block(available)
[12:33] <fde> CoUrPsE|DeAd: the none free drivers always were, yes... there is also radeon and radeonhd which are open source alternatives which AMD are working on to rival Intel and the 'intel' driver
[12:34] <vermont> ehama: I just went to compiz --> workarounds--> disabled legacy fullscreen
[12:34] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Well how do i go bout installing any of these?
[12:34] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: the open-source one from Xorg is just 'radeon' i believe.
[12:34] <fde> !radeon > CoUrPsE|DeAd
[12:34] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yeah, thats what i had installed, and you just told me to uninstall em, :(
[12:34]  * fde told you nothing
[12:34] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Well...
[12:35] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> what i was trying to instal.
[12:35] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> lol.
[12:35] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> not you, :)
[12:35] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> And im not moaning, im just saying, :)
[12:35] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: the radeon driver is probably already installed. however, it just sits there, until it's specified in your xorg.conf file
[12:35] <CAiRO> why does this pinning configuration not work: Package: *  \n Pin: origin /var/lib/dpkg/status   \n Pin-Priority: 600
[12:35] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Humm k.
[12:35] <fde> onetinsoldier: it shouldn't need specifying these days  :/
[12:35] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> How can i find out if it is installed?
[12:35] <odog777> are  there really almost 1300 people in this room?
[12:36] <ikonia> odog777 yes
[12:36] <odog777> fuck
[12:36] <fde> CoUrPsE|DeAd: go into System > Administration > Hardware Drivers ... it the Radeon driver listed atm?
[12:36] <fde> is*
[12:36] <odog777> thats a small city dude
[12:36] <ikonia> odog777 that language is not called for or weclome
[12:36] <jussi01> !ohmy | odog777
[12:36] <onetinsoldier> fde: well, frommy experience so far, it seems like it does. i could be wrong here tho! wouldn't be the first time, won't be the last
[12:36] <odog777> lol @ family friendly
[12:36] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> fde, nope.
[12:37] <DwiTa> gnome is good
[12:37] <fde> CoUrPsE|DeAd: dpkg -l | grep fglrx  <-- returns anything?
[12:37] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> says no propierty drivers are in use on this syste,m.
[12:37] <fde> DwiTa: Gnome is boring but has lots of money behind it...
[12:37] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: yes...   dpkg -l '*radeon*' | less
[12:37] <odog777> i apoligize ikonia
[12:37] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> fde, returns 4 lines, want me to pastebin?
[12:37] <Kelen> early christmas to everyone. lol
[12:37] <fde> CoUrPsE|DeAd: sure
[12:38]  * fde wants to ensure one is the xorg support
[12:38] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: would you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file now that it's been configured by  Xorg -configure ?
[12:38] <odog777> does anybody know if there is any difference in performance between ktorrent, transmission, vuze, etc?
[12:38] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> ned #ubuntu
 early christmas to everyone. lol
[12:39] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> onetinsoldier, sure, one sec.
[12:39] <odog777> i'm only interested in download performance
[12:39] <fde> odog777: no idea what vuze is... people like deluge though, but the best in your list is likely ktorrent for features
[12:39] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> oh wtf.
[12:39] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> how did i paste that...
[12:39] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> lol.
[12:39] <odog777> yeah i like ktorrent a lot...that's what I'm using at the moment
[12:39] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> http://pastebin.com/m5e093748
[12:39] <Kelen> CoUrPsE|DeAd: Do not copy my christmas.. lol
[12:39] <allsystemsarego> odog777, vuze is a memory hog
[12:39] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> i dont even know how it got in my clipboard...
[12:39] <fde> odog777: they're torrent clients... how exactly do you expect them to differ in speeds? you have any idea how torrent works?
[12:40] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: it's because you are trying to go to fast.. slow downa little
[12:40] <odog777> yes fde I do have any idea how torrents work
[12:40] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> http://pastebin.com/m56e922b9
[12:41] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Thats alot nicer looking .conf file.
[12:41] <fde> CoUrPsE|DeAd: yeah, paste the xorg.conf file now (sudo aptitude install pastebinit && cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit)
[12:41] <dr_willis> You can do 'pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'  :)
[12:41] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok.. apparently you installed the fglrx driver through apt-get or aptitude or Synaptic Package Manager... you need to do something a little different here
[12:41] <fde> CoUrPsE|DeAd: try changing where it says "radeon" in all that mess of a "Driver" section with "fglrx" and restart X
[12:42] <fde> onetinsoldier: if you recommend getting it elsewhere, I'm going to be angry  :P
[12:42] <odog777> condescension
[12:42] <onetinsoldier> fde: his /usr/share/ati/flgrx-install.log had errors
[12:42] <browdigger> hai ubunteros
[12:42] <browdigger> I'm a recent convert
[12:42] <browdigger> and have a nagging question
[12:42] <browdigger> hao dig earth
[12:42] <browdigger> hao dig earth
[12:43] <browdigger> hao dig earth
[12:43] <FloodBot1> browdigger: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:43] <odog777> ask fde he's the real pro
[12:43] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> wow, that pastebinit is cool.
[12:43] <fde> odog777: so you should understand that it just depends on how many people are seeding the file as to speed, not the client itself
[12:43] <odog777> i am aware of that fde
[12:43]  * fde wishes they'd install it by default
[12:44] <fde> odog777: then why are you asking which client is better based on download speed?
[12:44] <Athena28> Hola
[12:44] <odog777> forget it
[12:44] <fde> odog777: anyway, try deluge and ktorrent... see which you like better
[12:44] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> I still like, see no options for dual head.
[12:45] <onetinsoldier> fde: and the version he has installed according to dpkg is an old version.. probably doesn't work with the 2.6.27 kernel... that's why he had errors in his /usr/share/ati/flgrx-install.log
[12:45] <odog777> yeah I might give deluge a shot....i am pretty satisfied with features that ktorrent provides though
[12:45] <elpablo> salut tout le monde
[12:45] <fde> CoUrPsE|DeAd: once we get Xorg up, its really easy within the Screen Resolutions tool.... shouldn't need explaination, although it isn't entirely obvious by looking at the menus
[12:46] <fde> !fr > elpablo
[12:46] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yeah, i figured it'd be in the screen resol*.
[12:46] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: are you ready to get this all fixed up and have good working fglrx drivers?
[12:46] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yes sir.
[12:46] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> i do quite like that pastebinit thingy thou, Very handy, :)
[12:47] <fde> onetinsoldier: I agree, btw... just shutting up so you can help him  :)
[12:47] <onetinsoldier> fde: ok, i understand. thank you
[12:48] <elpablo> salut
[12:48] <fde> !fr
[12:48] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok.. do the following.   cp -v /etc/X11/xorg.conf etc/X11/xorg.conf-vesa
[12:48] <cmv583> anyone help, got left hanging last nite?
[12:49] <fde> cmv583: if you tell us what the question is, and where you got with it... sure
[12:49] <odog777> kde, why won't ubuntu 64 run on intel x64 machines isn't designed for amd 64 only?
[12:49]  * CoUrPsE|DeAd nods, im still with ya, :0
[12:49] <ikonia> it does
[12:49] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok.. good. one sec
[12:49] <fde> !64
[12:49] <elpablo> thank you
[12:50] <cmv583> fde: I am having trouble with firefox and can't get any help in #firefox
[12:50] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: dpkg --purge fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-kernel-source fglrx-modaliases xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:50] <fde> odog777: intel x86_64 is EMT64... but it was based on AMD64... amd64 was already the arch name within Debian, so they stuck with it to define both
[12:50] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: that will get rid of that OLD version
[12:51] <fde> cmv583: ok.. that isn't a question though
[12:51] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> :(
[12:51] <cmv583> fde:  no back, forward, reload buttons; or bookmarks
[12:51] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> i gotta redownload?
[12:51] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> I've done it thou, im still with ya.
[12:51] <pcmagas> c.co.uk
[12:51] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Prob is, my isp has throttled me to 64kbps.
[12:51] <cmv583> fde:  i have no idea why or how to remedy, can u help?
[12:51] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: yes.. i didn't know what you had for the fglrx driver. that version won't work
[12:51] <odog777> well i dont know but ubuntu 8.10 64 crashed when i tried to install it on my intel dual core t3200 laptop but 32 bit version installed just fine?
[12:51] <fde> cmv583: right click the menu... is "Navigation Bar" checked?
[12:52] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> onetinsoldier, Thats np, : Thanks for helping, :)
[12:52] <ikonia> odog777 defien crash
[12:52] <ikonia> define
[12:52] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> I used apt-get to get them drivers, figured that they would be recent.
[12:52] <cmv583> fde:  yep
[12:52] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[12:52] <viraptor> let's say a system does 60% wait with just one process (many threads) - how can I check what kind of operations is it waiting on?
[12:52] <fde> cmv583: hmm, hit customize and try adding those things back?
[12:52] <cmv583> fde: BRB
[12:52] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: you're welcome.. hehe. the fglrx driver os not small. it will take you a while to download it  :-(
[12:52] <odog777> well black screen with some text output I didn't understand and unresponsive to any input
[12:52] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Yes, i downloaded the other ver already, :(
[12:52] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> 20 megs they are.
[12:53] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> stoopid ISP.
[12:53] <mrS> how to install kde3 on 8.10 ?
[12:53] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: you uninstall the old one yet?
[12:53] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> kde3 or kd3?
[12:53] <scientes> how do i sidt-upgrade from hardy to intrepid from command line?
[12:53] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> onetinsoldier, yep, and removed.
[12:53] <fde> mrS: ask in #kubuntu ... I'm pretty sure you can't though... although 8.04 is supported for 3 years
[12:53] <mrS> kde 3.5.x
[12:53] <ActionParsnip1> mrS: you have to compile the source
[12:53] <CAiRO> oh dear, "Pin: release a=now" did the trick.. who should have known that?
[12:53] <mrS> will check
[12:54] <mrS> got the answer
[12:54] <fde> CAiRO: you after a quick google search, probably
[12:54] <odog777> i dont mind the ubuntu 32 bit but it seems like sort of a waste when i got a dual core 64 bit processor
[12:54] <Abhishek> i am very new to linux. i have a .py file how can i build it on my ubuntu 8.10.
[12:54] <fde> scientes: the recommended way it 'update-manager -d' ...
[12:55] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok.. good. now. just so i know everything is going to be on the up-and-up with your kernel when it comes time to install the fglrx driver. i want you to reboot now. then come back here, of course
[12:55] <ActionParsnip1> scientes: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core; sudo nano /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades (change LTS to normal); sudo do-release-upgrade
[12:55] <fde> scientes: wait, scratch that
[12:55] <ikonia> ogre_: depends what the text output said I guess
[12:55] <ActionParsnip1> scientes: some of that is instruction
[12:55] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> reboot completely? or just X
[12:55] <ActionParsnip1> scientes: so dont copy it as a command
[12:55] <odog777> ubuntu 32 beats the shit of vista 64 thats for damn sure.....I am running a dual boot
[12:55] <odog777> beats the shit out of
[12:55] <scientes> it would work fine if you did
[12:56] <ikonia> odog777 I've warned you about your langageu
[12:56] <ikonia> language
[12:56] <fde> Abhishek: uhh... 'python whatever.py'  ... you don't need to build anything
[12:56] <odog777> my bad
[12:56] <bening> dual boot.. heemm i am running single
[12:56] <Abhishek> ow will it run
[12:56] <Abhishek> fde:*how
[12:56] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: reboot completely. i want to be certain there won't be any problem with the kernel module unloading/loading since you just uninstalled a kernel module type of driver
[12:56] <hischild> which channel do i go to for translations?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> odog777: the amount of bits is moot for a desktop OS
[12:57] <odog777> i split my hard drive fifty - fifty between vista and ubuntu
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> odog777: only really depends on memory amount in the system but encoding can benefit from 64bit ness
[12:57] <Laibsch> Hi
[12:57] <odog777> i do a lot of encoding
[12:58] <odog777> i burn dvd from avi's
[12:58] <fde> Abhishek: its an interpreted language...
[12:58] <ActionParsnip1> odog777: then 64 will benefit the encoding
[12:58] <Danny-aka-Recce> Does anyone know of an HTML/CSS IRC Channel?
[12:58] <Abhishek> fde: then ??
[12:58] <SlimeyPete>  #css
[12:58] <SlimeyPete>  #html
[12:58] <SlimeyPete> ...
[12:59] <fde> Abhishek: what do you mean "then"... just do what I told you  :/
[12:59] <ikonia> Danny-aka-Recce not here, #ubuntu is not a freenode channel directory
[12:59] <Laibsch> I have a problem with update-grub.  It keeps generating an incorrect menu.lst.  It correctly identifies the kernel 2.6.24-22, but it still write 2.6.24-19 to menu.lst.  The system is thus unbootable without manual intervention.  Where is update-grub getting that incorrect information from?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip1> odog777: devvede makes nice dvds you can even make menu systems too
[12:59] <Danny-aka-Recce> Ikonia I'm fairly new to IRCs what's a freenode channel directory?
[12:59] <Abhishek> fde: but you havent told me any thing
[12:59] <Rabbitbunny> ubuntu 8.10, nvidia fx5500, KDS 19". it's running at 640*480, it does ~1900*1200 under windows. System > Preferences > Screen Resolution offers no other sizes. I thought we weren't supposed to have to mess with xorg.conf anymore?
[12:59] <ikonia> Danny-aka-Recce a yellow pages of freenode channels
[13:00] <adam7> Abhishek: run your python file with python nameoffile.py at the command line
[13:00] <fde> Abhishek: I told you to type "python yourapp.py
[13:00] <Danny-aka-Recce> Sorry let me be more specific what's a freenode channel?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip1> Laibsch: verify you have the expected kernel and manually modify menu.lst, if it doesnt boot, boot to root console and change it back
[13:00] <CAiRO> fde: it wasnt particularly quick since none of the pinning guides mentioned it
[13:00] <adam7> Danny-aka-Recce: it's what you're in now :)
[13:00] <Rabbitbunny> Danny-aka-Recce: #freenode
[13:00] <odog777> i do my downloading in ubuntu ( no tcp inbound limit although tcip.sys can be modified) and my dvd burning in vista 64
[13:00] <CAiRO> fde: i only guessed it from reading some code snippet
[13:00] <Danny-aka-Recce> thanks. Where could I find a directory of channels?
[13:00] <CAiRO> and nobody in here or in #debian knew it either
[13:00] <dr_willis> Danny-aka-Recce,  you are on  the freenode irc network..     :)
[13:01] <dr_willis> !list | Danny-aka-Recce
[13:01] <ikonia> Danny-aka-Recce freenode's website
[13:01] <fde> CAiRO: I wrote the pinning guide... however I don't recall what you said
[13:01] <Abhishek> fde: it shows an error "plz install pythhon.tk package"
[13:01] <dr_willis> Danny-aka-Recce,  the /list command will give a HUGE listing of channels..   more then you want proberly
[13:01] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Um.
[13:01] <M4RC0> bye all!
[13:01] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Donr think that worked to well.
[13:01] <odog777> ikonia are you a moderator?
[13:01] <dennda> On kubuntu desktop cds, what is the command to run ubiquity (or the kubuntu equivalent) manually?
[13:01] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> get errors doing glxinfo again.
[13:02] <Rabbitbunny> dennda: "apt-get install ubiquity"; "ubiquity"
[13:02] <adam7> Abhishek: you can install the tk package -- it's called python-tk
[13:02] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: oh? that could be that the removalof the fglrx driver removed some glx type files
[13:02] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> onetinsoldier, Think we just went backwards, :(
[13:02] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: don't worry
[13:02] <Abhishek> fde: how ???
[13:02] <adam7> !terminal | Abhishek
[13:03] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: if you really want the fglrx driver.. this will be all fixed up.
[13:03] <Danny-aka-Recce> Thanks everyone
[13:03] <fde> Abhishek: sudo aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search python.tk
[13:03] <adam7> Abhishek: open the terminal, then type "python nameofmyfile.py" without the quotes, and replacing nameofmyfile.py with the real name of your file
[13:03] <fde> !find python.tk
[13:03] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Well i do now, since the normal ones dont like it either now.
[13:03] <adam7> fde: python.tk is probably in python-tk
[13:03] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> i wanna be a ble to use duel head.
[13:03] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: and it's the best driver you can get... worth it imo. i use it
[13:03] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> okies.
[13:04] <fde> adam7: nuh uh? lol... I also don't want to answer 3453578643587635 more questions that apt-file will answer for him though  :)
[13:04] <joanna> hi!!
[13:04] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok,now to download the newe driver... hang on a moment, ok?
[13:04] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yep, sure.
[13:04] <Ward1983> how do i know what package i need to install if i get this error? Can't locate Gnome2/Vte.pm in @INC
[13:04] <adam7> fde: I'm not sure he's ready for apt-file yet ;)
[13:04] <fde> adam7: why not?
[13:05] <joanna> i want to have manual for c from console..which packet have i to install??
[13:05] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: are you running x86? or x86_64?(amd64)
[13:05] <ActionParsnip1> adam7: what about apt-build ? ;)
[13:05] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> x86.
[13:05] <sky_> good afternoon
[13:05] <ActionParsnip1> lo sky_
[13:05] <adam7> joanna: man nameofcsomething (ie, man printf)
[13:06] <adam7> I think should do it...
[13:06] <sky_> :]
[13:06] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok.. go here and make sure you pick x_86... http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
[13:06] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> the .run file?
[13:06] <fde> ActionParsnip1: apt-file is not even comparable to apt-build... apt-file is just apt-cache for contents of files
[13:06] <fde> s/files/packages
[13:06] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: yep
[13:06] <absence> networking in ubuntu has suddenly stopped working. everything was fine with my ubuntu install, but after i moved, completely regular LAN networking does not work. it works in windows, but not ubuntu. does anyonw know what could be wrong and how i can troubleshoot it?
[13:06] <Ward1983> fde, so i can also use apt-file to find out what package i need i have a error like this? Can't locate Gnome2/Vte.pm in @INC
[13:06] <ActionParsnip1> fde: I know but apt-build is a little more hardcore than apt-get, it was a joke
[13:07] <joanna> adam7 for some man entries i have result for example for printf it is ok
[13:07] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> onetinsoldier, I've got ati-driver-installer-8-12-x86.x86_64.run on hdd already.
[13:07] <war10ck> hello
[13:07] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ahh! cool
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> absence: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[13:07] <joanna> adam7,but for pthread for example i haven't
[13:07] <adam7> CoUrPsE|DeAd: are you trying to install the latest ATI driver?
[13:07] <fde> Ward1983: sure
[13:07] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: is it executable?
[13:07] <war10ck> what networking
[13:07] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> its exacuteable yes.
[13:07] <war10ck> with server?
[13:07] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> adam7, Any drivers would be nice.
[13:08] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> onetinsoldier's helping me thou, :)
[13:08] <adam7> onetinsoldier, CoUrPsE|DeAd: if you do it right, you can get it to generate debs for you
[13:08] <war10ck> take a samba server
[13:08] <adam7> CoUrPsE|DeAd: http://wiki.cchtml.com
[13:08] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok... go to where the file is at and run it as root....   sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8-12-x86.x86_64.run
[13:09] <sky_> adam7: /kiss ;-*
[13:09] <adam7> onetinsoldier: that's gonna get files all over the hard drive...
[13:09] <sidelil> Hello everybody, I'm trying to use cron, I'm editing the file with crontab -e and then checking with crontab -l, and it seems to be correct, but it doesn't work. Is there anything else I need to do to have it working? Thanks a lot
[13:09] <Ward1983> ffs now he leaves lol
[13:09] <ActionParsnip1> !cron | sidelil
[13:10] <Ward1983> apt-file --help is confusing
[13:10] <allsystemsarego> sidelil, you need to use full paths inside cron
[13:10] <Ward1983> ok sudo apt-get uninstall apt-file for it seems to be pure crap
[13:10] <onetinsoldier> adam7: yes..but it's the only way to get a good working fglrx for kernel 2.6.27. i use it with no issues, andthe uninstaller script for it works fine
[13:10] <mib_hemrdo> hi
[13:10] <mib_hemrdo> getting files from windows to linux
[13:10] <Ward1983> dont need tools i need to be a professor for to be able to search a file
[13:10] <adam7> onetinsoldier: you can have the installer make debs for you, then it's an easy uninstall
[13:10] <mib_hemrdo> does anyone know of a tool to grab files from a ntsf partition, i am trying to get my firefox book marks from windows into linux
[13:11] <sky_> copy ? ;D
[13:11] <aoupi> mib_hemrdo: mount it
[13:11] <adam7> onetinsoldier: I'm using 2.6.27 on Intrepid, and the restricted manager set me up fine...
[13:11] <icesword> sky_, then he should go to windows#
[13:11] <mib_hemrdo> aoupi: sorry, i am not familiar with how to do that
[13:11] <sky_> yes
[13:11] <onetinsoldier> adam7: ha, i've enver seen the scripted installer make a .deb on a debian based system yet. it always coughs, spits up and puts out errors
[13:11] <sky_> mount ntfs
[13:12] <mib_hemrdo> hiw
[13:12] <sky_> and then go to ntfs and copy
[13:12] <mib_hemrdo> how
[13:12] <adam7> mib_hemrdo: Ubuntu can mount a ntfs parition by default
[13:12] <FluxD> Hi, Any one used cfdisk ? What does the maximize option do? add free space to an existing partition?
[13:12] <mib_hemrdo> i don't think it did mount it though
[13:12] <joanna> ﻿i want to have manual for c from console..which packet have i to install??
[13:12] <adam7> onetinsoldier: it's worked for me every time for at least a year (see http://wiki.cchtml.com -- that's what I usually use and it works great :)
[13:12] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> onetinsoldier, installed.
[13:13] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: how's it going? you can have a look at adam7's suggestion if you want. but sounds a little late now.
[13:13] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> um, i think its a bit late, lol.
[13:13] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> adam7, Thats thou m8. appreciated.
[13:14] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: yeah.. i'm just going with what i know works here
[13:14] <adam7> it doesn't matter, either way should work :)
[13:14] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Well, it installed, and i dont see errors in fglrx.install.log
[13:14] <onetinsoldier> adam7: i willhave a look at the wiki link you popsted when we're done, than you!
[13:14] <onetinsoldier> thank*
[13:14] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: yeah!!!
[13:14] <onetinsoldier> no errors!
[13:15] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> lol.
[13:15] <sky_> ?
[13:15] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Thanks, So shall i redo what you told me to do earlyer?
[13:15] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok, we're not done yet..
[13:15] <adam7> onetinsoldier: it has a couple of troubleshooting tips if you run into more trouble :) sounds like you've got it though
[13:15] <sky_> no ubuntu no errors
[13:15] <sky_> :D
[13:15] <onetinsoldier> adam7: ok, thanks again
[13:15] <ActionParsnip1> sky_: very rare
[13:15] <odog777> i need to get some sleep
[13:15] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: no.. do not do that
[13:15] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> okies.
[13:15] <odog777> good night yal
[13:15] <ActionParsnip1> sky_: all OSs have issues, just different ones
[13:16] <sky_> it was a joke
[13:16] <sky_> :]
[13:16] <ActionParsnip1> i know :D
[13:16] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: just put you're new xorg.conf file into pastebin so i can take a quick look
[13:16] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> okies.
[13:16] <odog777> ikonia have a good fucking night bro
[13:16] <sky_> lol :]
[13:17] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> http://pastebin.com/f6a95c5a7
[13:17] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> that pwnz.
[13:17] <ikonia> !mode +b odog*!n=odog*@*!#ubuntu-ops
[13:17]  * CoUrPsE|DeAd is just still impressed with pastebinit script,
[13:17] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: hahaa
[13:17] <ActionParsnip1> CoUrPsE|DeAd: its handy
[13:18] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: what happened? that's an empty looking xorg.conf file
[13:18] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> for sure.
[13:18] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> oops.
[13:18] <sky_> ikonia is bad admin
[13:18] <ActionParsnip1> CoUrPsE|DeAd: no need to load a web browser up
[13:18] <sky_> :D
[13:18] <ikonia> sky_: what ?
[13:18] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> onetinsoldier, i said before, that i got errors again booting up.
[13:18] <sky_> nooothing :D
[13:18] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> ya said dont worry and we carried on.
[13:18] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> figured maybe we'd be doing the Xorg -configure again.
[13:19] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok.. here's what we're gonna do.   cd /etc/X11  cp -v xorg.conf-vesa xorg.conf
[13:19] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> :( and use old drivers still?
[13:19] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: wait...
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> CoUrPsE|DeAd: you trying to configure video driver?
[13:20] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> to which part?
[13:20] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: are you pressed for time at all? are you ina big hurry?
[13:20] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> no hurry.
[13:20] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> its 2:20 am, not going to do anything in the next few hours, :)
[13:20] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok. i will continue to go with what i know works
[13:20] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> ActionParsnip1, Just trying to get driver setup.
[13:21] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: join me in #ubuntu-offtopic... ok?
[13:21] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> do i want to copy -vesa to conf?
[13:21] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> np.
[13:22] <war10ck> hi techno freak+
[13:22] <war10ck> the best music are techno and rock (punk)
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> war10ck: i prefer psytrance and grindcore
[13:23] <Pici> !offtopic
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> war10ck: but its oftopic here
[13:23] <casual> hi
[13:23] <Photoguy> Where can I get a .deb for this? http://www.racer.nl/
[13:24] <Bluey_> i am having some problem with loading USB device with VBOX
[13:24] <ikonia> Photoguy talk to the people at racer.nl
[13:24] <war10ck> why?
[13:24] <war10ck> what problem?
[13:25] <Photoguy> The website?
[13:25] <ikonia> Photoguy the people who make the application/game
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> Photoguy: http://www.racer.nl/dl_linux.htm
[13:25] <Photoguy> Yeah.
[13:25] <Bluey_> war10ck:  well it doesnt mount my ipod touch :(
[13:26] <ActionParsnip1> Photoguy: you extract the 2 archives to a folder and it will run wherever you extract it
[13:26] <dr_willis> Bluey_,   i found getting vbox to see 'real' usb devices - to be a bit.. confuseing/unrelieable..  But ive only dont it under windows not linux. so i cant help much there
[13:26] <Photoguy> I tried, it must need something else.
[13:27] <ActionParsnip1> Photoguy: you need ffmod too by the looks of it
[13:27] <asl1> !es
[13:27] <asl1> español
[13:27] <Photoguy> Ok.
[13:27] <casual> Russian the best..
[13:27] <Bluey_> dr_willis: what do you mean by real?  and also do u know if itunes can be installed on linux ?
[13:28] <casual> what are your doing?)
[13:28] <ChristianBill> Is there anything general to be said about gnome vs KDE?
[13:28] <ChristianBill> Or is it just and only, a matter of taste
[13:28] <dr_willis> Bluey_,  real as in physucallty attatched to the   computer. :)   I dont touch Itunes.. i dont want anything to do with apple. I used vbox in the past to 'install' linux to thumbdrives is all ive done with it.
[13:28] <war10ck> the ipod
[13:28] <war10ck> ...
[13:28] <dr_willis> !itunes
[13:30] <Bluey_> dr_willis: i shifted to linux completely a while ago. and i just bought a new ipod. and the stupid thing needs itunes to sync it up. so i installed XP on VBOX and tried to get the USB to work, but it seems like it sees the ipod but doesnt mount it :(
[13:31] <JasonosaJ> Bluey_, Itune syncing should work with wine
[13:32] <ActionParsnip1> war10ck: banshee and amarok like ipods
[13:32] <ActionParsnip1> !gtkpod
[13:32] <Bluey_> JasonosaJ: i tried installing itunes with wine but the installation fails midway
[13:33] <JasonosaJ> hmmmm.
[13:33] <sky_> !girls
[13:33] <war10ck> i have a ipod nano
[13:33] <ikonia> sky_: what ar eyou doing ?
[13:33] <sky_> eeh sorry....
[13:34] <ikonia> sky_ stop messing around please
[13:34] <ActionParsnip1> Bluey_: shouldve bought a better player
[13:34] <JasonosaJ> Bluey_, Try this link, I'm not sure if it will work, but it's worth a shot. http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/09/19/install-itunes-72-in-ubuntu-and-other-linux-distros/
[13:34] <sky_> ikonia: again sorry
[13:35] <Bluey_> JasonosaJ: lol......... i will try anything... ActionParsnip1: well its a bit too late about buying a "better" player
[13:35] <FluxD> Is /etc/fstab the only file that tells what should be mounted where on startup?
[13:36] <ikonia> FluxD yes
[13:36] <jrib> FluxD: that and whatever hal decides to do, yeah
[13:36] <Bluey_> i have been there already, doesnt work :(
[13:36] <Bluey_> JasonosaJ: i have been there already, doesnt work :(
[13:36] <FluxD> jrib, where do I look for hal settings?
[13:36] <jrib> FluxD: why, what's the issue?
[13:37] <farkgis> salut
[13:37] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: welcome back
[13:37] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> right, same error i got.
[13:37] <farkgis> salut
[13:37] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> here it is?
[13:37] <ikonia> farkgis you said that
[13:38] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: what error?
[13:38] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Your screen, graphics card and input device settings could not be detected correctly, you will need to configure these yourself.
[13:38] <FluxD> ikonia, jrib, this is my setup 2 hdds in raid 0 hard. 3 partitions 1 mounted as / , one as swap, and another as /home, I only see the size of one hdd in ubuntu , the rest shows up as free space
[13:38] <farkgis> don't spik  french  here
[13:38] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: dangit...
[13:38] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> onetinsoldier, and thanks, :)
[13:38] <JasonosaJ> Bluey_, What version VB are you using?
[13:38] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> onetinsoldier, /me nods.
[13:38] <ActionParsnip1> !raid | FluxD
[13:39] <ikonia> FluxD what type of raid are you using ?
[13:39] <ikonia> FluxD: fakeraid ?
[13:39] <FluxD> ikonia, raid 0
[13:39] <rjune_> ugh, that's fakeraid
[13:39] <ikonia> FluxD: what radi technologyu
[13:39] <ikonia> rjune_: raid 0 is not fakeraid
[13:39] <FluxD> FluxD, I have raid card
[13:39] <ikonia> FluxD: what model
[13:39] <rjune_> well, not technically, but raid0 does nothing for redundancy
[13:39] <Bluey_> JasonosaJ: 2.1.0
[13:39] <ikonia> rjune_: fakerade has nothing to do with redundancy - so it's not technically wrong - it's wrong
[13:40]  * ActionParsnip1 hates fakeraid
[13:40] <ce_kecut> hi
[13:40]  * rjune_ hates raid0 more. I love my data
[13:40] <ActionParsnip1> rjune_: buy decent reliable drives
[13:40] <ikonia> FluxD: what model raid card ?
[13:40] <FluxD> ikonia, umm let me look
[13:40] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: tell the channel about you problem and post this link for you're xorg.conf file... http://pastebin.com/f28316cad  I am going to look the file over to see if i can tell what ight be wrong. also, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.og and post that pastebin url as well
[13:40] <ActionParsnip1> FluxD: lspci will tell you
[13:41] <runpain2> god day all
[13:41] <FluxD> ActionParsnip1, ikonia 3ware
[13:41] <ikonia> FluxD 3 ware what ?
[13:41] <rjune_> they make a fakeraid card?
[13:41] <ikonia> FluxD: sorry, need to be specific
[13:41] <ikonia> rjune_: no they don't
[13:42] <ActionParsnip1> FluxD: can you give the single line identifying it in lspci output
[13:42] <ikonia> rjune_: who said it was fake raid ?
[13:42] <rjune_> didn't think so.
[13:42] <rjune_> nobody.
[13:42] <ikonia> rjune_: so what are you going on about ?
[13:42] <FluxD> ikonia, ActionParsnip1 just checking its a remote machine
[13:42] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> sh: /var/log/Xorg.0.log: Permission denied
[13:42] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> erm.
[13:42] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> sorry.
[13:42] <ikonia> FluxD if you want stick lspci in a pastebin
[13:42] <woody86> how can I remove something listed as installed in Wine when I can't uninstall it using "Uninstall Wine software"?
[13:42] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> http://pastebin.com/f2abb6883
[13:43] <ActionParsnip1> CoUrPsE|DeAd: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less
[13:43] <ksbalaji> My friend did delete away a few unwanted fonts using adeptmanager. Having problems with SCIM, he uninstalled it. Now, his openoffice ceased to open, and ultimately ubuntu hardy does not boot beyond text prompt. Nautilus, or GDM does not work. Please advise so that I can help him.
[13:43] <JasonosaJ> Bluey_, problems with ipod and VBox have been reported in the past, The only thing I can suggest is to make a bug report here http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Bugtracker and hopefuly they can get it straightend out.
[13:43] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Thats my Xorg.0.log
[13:43] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> http://pastebin.com/f1f19b38f
[13:43] <farkgis> parlez vous francais?
[13:43] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> And thats my xorg.conf
[13:43] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> farkgis, Try join #ubuntu-fr
[13:44] <FluxD> ActionParsnip1, ikonia RAID bus controller: 3ware Inc 7xxx/8xxx-series PATA/SATA-RAID (rev 01)
[13:44] <ActionParsnip1> ksbalaji: if you log in to text prompt and type: startx
[13:44] <ActionParsnip1> ksbalaji: what happens?
[13:44] <ikonia> FluxD sounds good, so you've used the raid vard's bios (F3 at boot time) to configure the raid meta device ?
[13:44] <Kozeris> my friend has 2 hdd : sata and pata, when connect pata as slave , master with xp loads 4xlonger. but when using both speeds 50 mbps, so it something with recognition?
[13:44] <Bluey_> JasonosaJ: thanx man, i am trying something... lemme see how that works
[13:44] <FluxD> ikonia, raid0 works fine just want ubuntu to see it as 2 x space
[13:45] <JasonosaJ> Bluey_, ok, Another thing, it may work to try older versions of VBox, as it clearly works on some versions, and doesn't on others.
[13:45] <ikonia> FluxD so you've configured the raid set using the 3ware bios utility (I think it's F3 at boot up to configure it)
[13:45] <FluxD> ikonia, yea
[13:45] <absence> ActionParsnip1: i've tried that. the little icon in the upper right corner spins for a while, then it just says it's not connected or something
[13:46] <ikonia> FluxD show me the output of "sudo fdisk -l" in a pastebin please
[13:46] <absence> ActionParsnip1: same if i disconnect and connect the cable
[13:46] <mikebeecham> wonder if anyone can help.  I have an LG Viewty.  When I plug it in, it recognises the phone for the purposes of mobile broadband, but it will not mount the phone so that I can pull photo's etc from it...can anyone help with this?
[13:46] <ksbalaji> I used to get immediate response here. Am I still connected to Ubuntu help channel?
[13:46] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: repost you message/question again in a few minutes, but you need to.... put it all on one line! it's confusing to try and look at someoone problem spread out over a 3, 4, 5 lines
[13:46] <ikonia> ksbalaji what's the issue
[13:46] <RizR> hello chaps. got 8.10 nvidia with proprietry driver and twinview and two monitors. thought kde4 is cool as well. logged out (of gnome) and logged back in kde4 and one monitor (secondary of course) is blank. need any extra config for this?
[13:47] <ikonia> ksbalaji: if you ask a question someone will respond IF they know the answer
[13:47] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> okies onetinsoldier, thanks.
[13:47] <riptide> does ubuntu ship b43 firemware?
[13:47] <riptide> *fw
[13:47] <ikonia> riptide don't think so
[13:47] <asl1> how can I edit a file from the ftp of the console?
[13:48] <ikonia> asl1 ftp is not an editor, you can't
[13:48] <RizR> asl1: I usually use midnight commandar for that. command is mc
[13:48] <ksbalaji> Hi! Is this ubuntu help channel please? Hello anyone live/
[13:48] <riptide> ikonia, which kernel shipped with 8.10?
[13:48] <RizR> if its not installed try apt-getinstall mc
[13:48] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> http://pastebin.com/f1f19b38f Is my xorg.conf, http://pastebin.com/f2abb6883 is my Xorg.0.log, Im trying to get drivers installed for my ati radeon 9700 pro, so i can use dual head, Any ideas on how i can do this?
[13:48] <ikonia> riptide 2.6.27
[13:48] <rjune_> ksbalaji: ask your question.
[13:48] <asl1> There is a command to edit the file from the console without downloading????
[13:49] <RizR> asl1: you can find plenty of help about how to use mc by gooling for it :-)
[13:49] <ikonia> ksbalaji Stop moaning, and ask a question for people to respond to
[13:49] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok. i think i see the problem, don't know how i missed it before you rebooted
[13:49] <RizR> asl1: mc
[13:49] <riptide> ikonia, is there a bot I can talk to?
[13:49] <ikonia> riptide ubottu is the channel bot
[13:49] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Ohhh, this sounds hopeful then.
[13:50] <ksbalaji> I came here to get help for my friend. Now seems I need help for myself to get logged in to ubuntu help channel.
[13:50] <asl1> that is mc?
[13:50] <rjune_> ksbalaji: it would seem so.
[13:50] <ActionParsnip1> asl1: nano is preinstalled
[13:50] <FluxD> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/88515/
[13:50] <RizR> ksbalaji: you're in the channel. just ask question!
[13:50] <huckleberry>  hi guys
[13:50] <huckleberry>  how do i get the right click to work on my macbook pro touchpad?  i'm using ubuntu 8.10
[13:51] <wartalker> when i compile cpp, error: ‘memset’ was not declared in this scope, how can i do
[13:51] <asl1> what would the command??
[13:51] <ActionParsnip1> asl1:you also get vim but I find nano more intuitive
[13:51] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> wartalker, Try asking in #C++
[13:51] <ikonia> FluxD so your raid disk is 1500GB in size and you've made a 40GB partition for ubuntu on sda1, and then another with 72GB all your space is allocated in your partitions
[13:51] <jimcooncat> looking for a "versioning file system" that works well with hardy. Anyone use something like Tux3, Wayback, or ext3cow?
[13:51] <ActionParsnip1> wartalker: did you sudo apt-get install build-essential
[13:52] <asl1> is very well use the vim
[13:52] <huckleberry> hmm
[13:52] <FluxD> ikonia, its actually 4 gb on sda1, 1 gb on sda2, and rest on sda3 ( should be 1500 - 5)
[13:52] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: edit you xorg.conf file. in the Section that says    Section "Device"   ...all the way down at the bottom of that, you need to add a line
[13:52] <RizR> hello chaps. got 8.10 nvidia with proprietry driver and twinview and two monitors. thought kde4 is cool as well. logged out (of gnome) and logged back in kde4 and one monitor (secondary of course) is blank. need any extra config for this?
[13:52] <ikonia> FluxD sorry, miss-read that
[13:52] <ikonia> FluxD so what's the problem ?
[13:52] <huckleberry> hmm
[13:53] <asl1> but how can I edit the file from the ftp with vim?
[13:53] <Feeernando> hello word
[13:53] <ikonia> asl1: you can't edit in ftp
[13:53] <rjune_> asl1: you can't.
[13:53] <asl1> ftp>
[13:53] <ikonia> asl1: ftp is file transfer, nothing more
[13:53] <FluxD> ikonia, I want sda3 as ( 1500 - 5 ) not 750 - 5
[13:53] <ikonia> asl1: you can't do that
[13:53] <RizR> asl1: I suggested mc. did you read my msg?
[13:53] <ksbalaji> Hi! Is this ubuntu help channel please? Hello anyone live here?
[13:53] <ikonia> FluxD reduce it's size then
[13:53] <RizR> asl1: you need to connect to your ftp server from inside mc for that
[13:53] <absence> networking in ubuntu has suddenly stopped working. everything was fine with my ubuntu install, but after i moved, completely regular LAN networking does not work. it works in windows, but not ubuntu. does anyonw know what could be wrong and how i can troubleshoot it?
[13:53] <ikonia> ksbalaji if you don't ask a question this time you will be banned
[13:53] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Which line am i adding?
[13:53] <rjune_> asl1: both GNOME and KDE provide UI to connect, download, edit, and upload.  supposedly mc does too
[13:53] <FluxD> ikonia, of?
[13:53] <ksbalaji> i> I used to get immediate response here. Am I still connected to Ubuntu help channel?
[13:53] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: wait..let's try something different first.. you with me? close out your editor
[13:54] <ikonia> FluxD: use gparted
[13:54] <knanand> hi all
[13:54] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> closed.
[13:54] <rjune_> ikonia: I think he's got some issues.
[13:54] <FluxD> ikonia, this is ubuntu server
[13:54] <ikonia> it's a bot
[13:54] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok.. one sec
[13:54] <ikonia> FluxD: use parted then
[13:54] <wartalker> ActionParsnip1:  i have done, it is ok before, i do not know why
[13:54] <ActionParsnip1> absence: if you run: sudo mv /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces_old
[13:54] <rjune_> what would the point be of a stupid bot like that?
[13:54] <FluxD> ikonia, okay commands to use on parted, I couldnt understand it clearly from their manpage
[13:55] <ActionParsnip1> absence: if you reboot your network config will be blank and you can re-establish it
[13:55] <absence> ActionParsnip1: does the interfaces file contain anything in ubuntu's default install?
[13:55] <ikonia> FluxD it's an interactive menu
[13:55] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: first, make a backup the file... give it a name of your choosing
[13:55] <huckleberry> anyone know how to get the right click to work on touchpad on mac
[13:55] <knanand> I am having problem installing Postgres SQL on my ubuntu 8.10 desktop( 32-bit) synaptic shows its installed but I am not able to start the server... Can someone help me
[13:56] <ActionParsnip1> wartalker: then its not an ubuntu issue, /j #c++
[13:56] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Done.
[13:56] <FluxD> ikonia, any links to an exmaple or tutorial?
[13:56] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: i think you said you are wanting dual-head config?
[13:56] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yeah.
[13:56] <ikonia> FluxD: what are you talking about , it's an interactive menu
[13:56] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> figured once drivers were installed, i could just choose dual head in the screen resolution options.
[13:57] <jimcooncat> knanand: you may have to edit /etc/default/postgresd or whatever it's called. Postgresql opens a port, and most 'buntu daemons are disabled on install.
[13:57] <Stargazers> Hi. I need help with PHP-GTK compilation in Ubuntu Intrepid Ivex.
[13:57] <FluxD> ikonia, okay tryinh
[13:57] <Stargazers> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/88501/
[13:57] <Stargazers> I get this kind of error message.
[13:57] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok, do the following command...  aticonfig --initial=dual-head   ..then pastebin the xorg.conf file
[13:57] <Stargazers> "Virhe" means "Error" (localizated)
[13:57] <asl1> 	
[13:57] <asl1> since I installed ubuntu ultimate edition my computer behaves strange and volatile
[13:57] <asl1> this is not official ubuntu?
[13:57] <FloodBot1> asl1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:58] <Pici> !ultimate | asl1
[13:58] <Pici> asl1: No, it is not official.
[13:58] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Uninitialised file found, configuring. Segmentation fault
[13:58] <knanand> jimcooncat: cannot find that  path... but how can I start the the daemons?
[13:58] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: did you do this as root user?
[13:58] <Rabbitbunny> what's the standard method to reconfigure X these days? And I mean the one where I can throw in my actual hardware data, not the one that gives me 640*480 and emties xorg.conf.
[13:59] <hyj> #ubuntu-br
[13:59] <asl1> There is a way to correct or should I remove it?
[13:59] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> onetinsoldier, yep.
[13:59] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> did sudo stuff here.
[13:59] <jimcooncat> knanand: sorry, that wasn't correct
[13:59] <jimcooncat> knanand: check out http://hocuspokus.net/2008/05/13/install-postgresql-on-ubuntu-804/
[13:59] <ActionParsnip1> Pici: is ultimate made by canonical?
[13:59] <Pici> ActionParsnip1: No.
[14:00] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: hmm, dangit!   ok, we're going to edit the file
[14:00] <Stargazers> Anyone?
[14:00] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> okies.
[14:00] <Stargazers> PHP-GTK istallation problems...?
[14:00] <asl1> bankai =)
[14:00] <Stargazers> In Ibex.
[14:00] <FluxD> ikonia, http://i43.tinypic.com/24ozgiq.png
[14:00] <ActionParsnip1> Pici: can't canonical sue in any way for defamation of name? or similar?
[14:00] <albackerr> is ubuntu 8.10 slower (im using a fujitsu siemens laptop, amilo).. it looks like winxp runs faster than ubuntu (without gnome but with fluxbox)
[14:00] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: edit you xorg.conf file. in the Section that says    Section "Device"   ...all the way down at the bottom of that section, you need to add a line. the line is....  Driver "fglrx"
[14:00] <ActionParsnip1> albackerr: have you installed video drivers and got full updates?
[14:00] <Pici> ActionParsnip1: Its not called Ubuntu Ultimate, they renamed it to Ultimate Edition due to trademark issues.
[14:00] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> okay.
[14:01] <ActionParsnip1> Pici: gotcha, thanks
[14:01] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Shall i replace Driver "radeon" with Driver "fglrx" ?
[14:01] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: yes
[14:01] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Done and saved.
[14:01] <ikonia> FluxD you said it was a server with no gui ?
[14:01] <knanand> jimcooncat: I get this error
[14:01] <knanand> psql: could not connect to server: No such file or directory
[14:01] <knanand> 	Is the server running locally and accepting
[14:01] <knanand> 	connections on Unix domain socket "/var/run/postgresql/.s.PGSQL.5432"?
[14:01] <FloodBot1> knanand: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:02] <albackerr> ActionParsnip1, i had 8.04 STL (or SLT).. and did an upgrade to 8.10 im not sure about the video drivers.. when i was in gnome i got a notification that said i was using some restricted drivers.  i have ATI graphic card and i think everyones having a problem with this atm.
[14:02] <V0iD> Does anyone know a good encryption app for Ubuntu that uses twofish?
[14:02] <FluxD> ikonia, this was from a while ago, its just apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and gparted
[14:02] <FluxD> ikonia, this is a reinstall currently
[14:02] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: do me a favor.. open up the backup you made of the file prior to editing it and paste in here, in the channel, just the one line that you replaced
[14:02] <ikonia> FluxD: why are you showing me this then ?
[14:03] <FluxD> ikonia, any reason why its different like that?
[14:03] <LeviTheSmith> I need the driver for the Broadcom B43legacy for 8.10
[14:03] <LeviTheSmith> wireless driver
[14:03] <CoUrPsE|DeAd>         Driver      "radeon"
[14:03] <ikonia> FluxD: what do you mean, why it's different?
[14:04] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: that's interesting.. i didn't see that line in the latest pastebin's ou posted
[14:04] <ikonia> FluxD: your partition table is different
[14:04] <jimcooncat> knanand: do you know if the server's running? check it with ps?
[14:04] <FluxD> ikonia, okay
[14:04] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> it should be there.
[14:04] <V0iD> Does anyone know a good encryption app for Ubuntu that uses twofish?
[14:04] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: well, anyway, restart X now...
[14:04] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> the lastest one i typed /exec -o pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:04] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> okies.
[14:04] <LeviTheSmith> anyone?
[14:05] <knanand> jimcooncat: I strongly doubt that the server is not running.. How can I start it
[14:05] <V0iD> >.<
[14:05] <asl1> español
[14:05] <V0iD> Does anyone know a good encryption app for Ubuntu that uses twofish?
[14:05] <Pici> !es | asl1
[14:06] <jimcooncat> knanand: "sudo /etc/init.d/postgres[tab] restart" -- that is, press the Tab key after typing "postgres" to complete the filename
[14:06] <V0iD> Does anyone know a good encryption app for Ubuntu that uses twofish?
[14:06] <V0iD> Does anyone know a good encryption app for Ubuntu that uses twofish?
[14:06] <V0iD> Does anyone know a good encryption app for Ubuntu that uses twofish?
[14:06] <FloodBot1> V0iD: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:06] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Ruh row.
[14:07] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> (EE) No device detected.
[14:07] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: what now?
[14:07] <LBSources> whats a good app to use to extract bin files?
[14:07] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Hag to log in low graphics mode.
[14:08] <kasu_> hy
[14:08] <kasu_> help me
[14:08] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: i am ready to give up.. i didn't have these problems at all. i just got a good full xorg.conf file, installed the fglrx driver, rebooted, and it worked perfectly.
[14:08] <kasu_> i install ubuntu with win vista
[14:08] <V0iD> Screw you FloodBot1!
[14:08] <kasu_> first vista
[14:08] <kasu_> second ubuntu
[14:08] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Humm, weird.
[14:08] <cmv583> fde:  i am back
[14:08] <kasu_> and a vista doen't work
[14:08] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: but.. pastebin your log file... sigh
[14:09] <huckleberry> anyone use netbeans?
[14:09] <JC_Denton_> trying to run update-manage but it crashes on me: SystemError: E:Line 2 too long (max 1024)
[14:09] <V0iD> Netbeans is dreadfull!
[14:09] <rjune_> V0iD: not a way to endear yourself.
[14:09] <sdousley|work> Hi all, i'm having problems installing ubuntu 8.04, it gets to 5% of formatting the / partition, then seems to hang doing nothing.
[14:10] <huckleberry> yeah void what compiler do you use?
[14:10] <V0iD> rjune => i know i hate that bot ! >.<
[14:10] <rjune_> V0iD: I meant you flooding the channel.
[14:10] <sdousley|work> ok, nevermind, it's now got past that, it just seemed to be taking WAY to long to do that, but it's sorted now
[14:10] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Xorg.0.log again?
[14:10] <V0iD> I'm not a fan of java sorry <rjune>
[14:11] <huckleberry> oh okay
[14:11] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> /exec -o pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:11] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> erm./
[14:11] <huckleberry> everyone has there favs
[14:11] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> http://pastebin.com/f3c2d2123
[14:11] <V0iD> rjune ==> i could do alot worse
[14:11] <ardchoille> V0iD: Please stop with the useless comments
[14:11] <ActionParsnip1> !ot
[14:11] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: slow down a little so you don't keep making that mistake...
[14:11] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> No mension of fglrx tho.
[14:12] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> onetinsoldier, Naw, im use to mirc, and putting 2 /'s for cmds.
[14:12] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: oh, i see
[14:12] <V0iD> wats the prob with netbeans
[14:13] <ActionParsnip1> CoUrPsE|DeAd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=991715
[14:13] <huckleberry> nothing just wonding if anyone had a comment on how it works in ubuntu
[14:13]  * CoUrPsE|DeAd follows.
[14:13] <V0iD> oh! are you any good with java then? <huckleberry>
[14:13] <tatters> If i installed ubuntu-server on a AMD box, could I put it into a pentium box
[14:13] <huckleberry> yeah i'm not too bad
[14:13] <V0iD> tatters ==> no
[14:14] <FluxD> tatters, 32bit?
[14:14] <riptide> tatters, architectures are different, so no
[14:14] <tatters> yeh both machines 32 bit
[14:14] <evilx> anyone have experience of setting up ubuntu as a pxe netboot server?
[14:14] <steveccc> anyone here runnning an ipod touch and syncing it with linux?
[14:14] <riptide> tatters, then that should be fine
[14:14] <V0iD> I find java soooooooo annoying !
[14:14] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> ActionParsnip1, Thats a thread with 2 posts saying there problem, but no answers.
[14:14] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: there's no mention of fglrx in the log file becasue for some reason, either the xorg.conf file is incorrect or the driver isn't working right. i'm going to look the log file over. you should try to make a one-liiner explaining your problem and has links to your xorg.conf file and your log file and then put the question to the channel
[14:14] <huckleberry> how so void
[14:14] <evilx> a thin client get the ip from the dhcp, but tftp times out
[14:14] <ardchoille> !ot
[14:15] <bshak1> I am trying to set up a web server at home.  I have it set up with www.dyndns.com where I can access my website at home.  The problem is that dyndns is choosing my internal ip address (192.168.whatever).  When I use the automatically detected settings on Dyndns (which are not 192.168.xxx.xxx), it doesn't work at all... not even within my network
[14:15] <bshak1> Can anyone help?
[14:15] <FloodBot1> bshak1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:15] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> righto onetinsoldier, Thanks.
[14:16] <bshak1> Can anyone help me?
[14:16] <V0iD> its so difficult to learn! im being tutored in css, html and php but i will also need to learn jquery
[14:16] <zimbres> Is there any option in ls to list only directories I was no able to find one?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip1> bshak1: dydns is used in routers to update the ip to the name, i'd suggest using no-ip.com
[14:16] <huckleberry> void do you know how to get the right click to work on the macbook touch pad running ubuntu
[14:16] <ActionParsnip1> bshak1: theres a linux client to update the ip and it uses the wan ip of your router
[14:17] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> I need help installing my gfx card, i have a radeon 9700 pro and im trying to use dual head, atm i can only login to X using low gfx mode.   http://pastebin.com/f3c2d2123 is my log file And http://pastebin.com/f4d322bd is my xorg.conf file.
[14:17] <kdogg> hello just reinstalled intrepid again last night, and flashplugin-nonfree does not seem to be workingnow, did I forget something?
[14:17] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: are you sure that's you latest log file? it doesn't have fglrx in it, but no errors either
[14:17] <dublpaws> bshak1: are you able to ssh into your machine from the internet?
[14:18] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> i've got xorg.0.log.old and xorg.99.log and xorg.99.log.old
[14:18] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> So i gather thats the latest.
[14:19] <jim_p> did anyone have problems with network manager in ubuntu 8.04?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip1> CoUrPsE|DeAd: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/breezy-and-ati-radeon-9700-pro-dual-head-376177/
[14:20] <administrator__> swehui
[14:20] <knanand> jimcooncat: I followed all the steps according to the link.. everything successful but when I connect using pgAdmin I get an error
[14:20] <ActionParsnip1> jim_p: ive seen a few in here. I dont use it personally, try a different app
[14:20] <riddlebox> what is the command to have xorg automatically try to detect your screen settings and graphics card?
[14:21] <kdogg> hello just reinstalled intrepid again last night, and flashplugin-nonfree does not seem to be working now, did I forget something?
[14:21] <vande> riddlebox: Xorg -configure
[14:21] <riddlebox> vande, thanks
[14:21] <jim_p> ActionParsnip1, i was just wondering about the sudden failure of network manager in 8.10!
[14:22] <dublpaws> bshak1: what I'm getting at is that you may be dealing with a hardware firewall at the dsl/cable modem
[14:22] <Tyrath> sorry to sound like an absolute torrent noob but what's the throttle feature do for downloading/uploading ?
[14:22] <V0iD> Anyone know any good encryption apps for ubuntu?
[14:22] <onetinsoldier> ActionParsnip1: that 9700 thread has an ancient and bazillion mile long conf file. are you sure that's any good?
[14:23] <bazhang> gnupg V0iD
[14:23] <V0iD> Thanks ==> Bazhang!
[14:23] <jim_p> onetinsoldier, are you trying to install fglrx on some ati card? maybe my xorg.conf can help
[14:23] <onetinsoldier> ActionParsnip1: omg.. it's from XFree86!!
[14:24] <Tyrath> V0iD: or sha1sum
[14:24] <onetinsoldier> jim_p: yes... and i am desperate for help with this guys 9700 Pro in Xorg! thanks
[14:24] <V0iD> Thanks ==> Tyrath
[14:24] <ActionParsnip1> onetinsoldier: lil bit but it mentions some ati app to help configure
[14:25] <Tyrath> V0iD: no worries. you may need to echo -n or cat the file then pipe the output into sha1sum
[14:25] <jim_p> onetinsoldier, are you on ubuntu 8.10? for best results use the opensource radeon driver. anyway              http://7g.pri.ee/mine.conf
[14:25] <ActionParsnip1> onetinsoldier: its long but 90% is commented out
[14:25] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> fglrxconfig doesnt exist on my machine.
[14:25] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: what make you say that?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip1> looks good jim_p
[14:25] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: nevermind... i'm getting confused
[14:26] <Tyrath> !throttle
[14:26] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> i read the post ActionParsnip1 said, and they use a appa called gflrxconfig to configure.
[14:26] <Tyrath> gah
[14:26] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: nevermind... i'm getting confused
[14:26] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> okies.
[14:26] <jim_p> ActionParsnip1, the current one has something more in it, one more section but i cant upload it :( thanks anyway
[14:26] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip1: do you ever download torrents?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip1> Tyrath: yeah
[14:26] <strongarm82> anyone know if Ubuntu supports PCMCIA to ExpressCard converters??
[14:26] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip1: would you know what throttling does?
[14:26] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: that util is absolutely ancient and was for XFree86
[14:26] <ActionParsnip1> Tyrath: no idea
[14:27] <jordo2323> Is there a good FTP client alternative to Filezilla that uses GTK libraries?
[14:27] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> ahh k.
[14:27] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip1: what program do you use?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip1> !hcl | strongarm82
[14:27] <dimebar> jordo2323: gftp?
[14:27] <ardchoille> was /bin/login and /bin/su updated recently?
[14:27] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: that post and util is from 2005 and for XFree86.. ignore it
[14:27] <ActionParsnip1> Tyrath: you can restrict / schedule bandwidth usae for torrents in some clients (ktorrent does it)
[14:27] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip1: is that for KDE?
[14:28] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: let jim_p help you out
[14:28] <ActionParsnip1> Tyrath: yeah
[14:28] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, tell me
[14:28] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip1: that could be handy if I knew my bandwidth :/
[14:28] <V0iD> jordo2323 ==> try fireftp in firefox!
[14:28] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yeah, just reading his conf files.
[14:28] <ActionParsnip1> !torrents | Tyrath
[14:28] <ActionParsnip1> !torrent | Tyrath
[14:28] <ActionParsnip1> thats it
[14:28] <ActionParsnip1> Tyrath: do a bandwidth test
[14:29] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> "S1701" How do i change this to default?
[14:29] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip1: thanks. I'm using rtorrent
[14:29] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> onetinsoldier, Thanks alot man.
[14:29] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip1: how with ifconfig?
[14:29] <jim_p> onetinsoldier, this is an fglrx config for use in xorg 1.4 ubuntu 8.04 had. options for the new xorg 1.5 that 8.10 has may vary a bit
[14:29] <zobax> hi
[14:29] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip1: or is there another way?
[14:29] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: you're welcome, and good luck!
[14:29] <ActionParsnip1> Tyrath: i work from home so allow 10k/s during the day, then slightly faster after work, then fully open from midnight
[14:29] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> onetinsoldier, Good, think i'll need it.
[14:29] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> lol.
[14:29] <onetinsoldier> hehe
[14:29] <ActionParsnip1> Tyrath: ifconfig only shows the connection speed to your router
[14:30] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip1: that's awesome. So it's almost like nice but for bandwidth instead of progs
[14:30] <ActionParsnip1> Tyrath: if you use pppoe it will say
[14:30] <tiyowan> Anyone running their own bitlbee server on intrepid? I installed bitlbee from synaptic; when I removed it, it broke my irssi.
[14:30] <bshak1> I want to do port 80 forwarding with a dynamic DNS and with no-ip.net... How do I do that?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip1> Tyrath: ive seen something on it a while back, not sure
[14:30] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, this is my monitor id. i put it there. its an eizo S1701. you can change it but you must also change the relevant "link" near the end of the file
[14:30] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yep. cool.
[14:30] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip1: thanks i'll give it a go
[14:31] <Pici> bshak1: Thats not really on topic for this channel.  Try ##networking or #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:31] <zobax> hi hi my keyboard and mouse do not work after boot up has anyone got any ideas
[14:31] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip1: just curious, how do you know about all the linux apps? or do you google them?
[14:31] <jim_p> Tyrath, i "apt-cache search" them
[14:32] <onetinsoldier> jim_p: is your resolution 1280x1024? he might need to change that
[14:32] <kaiser10123> can i use mythtv without using an account to receive tv listing
[14:32] <jim_p> onetinsoldier, yes. native lcd resolution
[14:32] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip1: I don't have pppoe installed :/ is there an ap already installed that I could use. I'm downloading a torrent atm so two downloads at once = i'll be here all night
[14:32] <DefamedPrawn> huh? MS Combat Flight Simulator works on linux? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006JIS8%3ftag=mobygames%26link_code=xm2%26camp=2025%26dev-t=D12JEXH87B4VLK
[14:32] <onetinsoldier> jim_p: roger
[14:32]  * CoUrPsE|DeAd crosses fingers.
[14:32] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> brb.
[14:32] <jim_p> kaiser10123, yea, i think so. i have used it once and i did not have such thing
[14:33] <Tyrath> jim_p: thanks but if I'm not wrong apt-cache search just finds me progs providing i know the program name
[14:33] <ActionParsnip1> Tyrath: you'll need a way to keep its bandwidth use down or if the app allows config, use that
[14:33] <kaiser10123> jim_p: how do i setup mythtv
[14:33] <adil79> bonjour
[14:33] <Tyrath> jim_p: if I were doing what you were suggesting i'd pick maybe apropos or man -k may do it
[14:33] <kaiser10123> i have a hauppauge 878
[14:34] <jim_p> Tyrath, ok what app do you want? synaptic also searched by description. and there is also linuxappfinder.com . no matter what, DO NOT download the debs from there and double click install. use your repos!!!
[14:34] <ActionParsnip1> !tvcard
[14:34] <jim_p> kaiser10123, i cant help you. let me find some guide
[14:34] <Tyrath> jim_p: that's actually a good idea. but i'd use nautilus instead of synaptic
[14:35] <jim_p> Tyrath, nautilus?!?!
[14:35] <kaiser10123> i got tvtime to work but had to do something to get audio working
[14:35] <NiSoOo> hey all, im trying to use ntpasswd in linux.. someone told me i should mount the fs and use the chngpwd program, how can i do that?
[14:35] <kaiser10123> ill show u command
[14:35] <Tyrath> jim_p: sorry i meant aptitude
[14:35] <Koordin> hi, how can i know the free space of a mounted partition of windows (/media/partition) ?
[14:35] <Tyrath> jim_p: forgive me, i tend to say stupid things at late hours
[14:35] <jim_p> lol ok
[14:35] <jim_p> kaiser10123, sudo mythtv-setup
[14:35] <kaiser10123> jim_p: tvtime | arecord -D hw:1,0 -r 32000 -c 2 -f S16_LE | sox -q -c 2 -r 32000 -w -t wav - -t alsa hw:0,0
[14:36] <Tyrath> jim_p: then again nautilus is file management lol
[14:36] <Tyrath> jim_p: but having never used it i've got no idea how it works...
[14:36] <ActionParsnip1> Koordin: df -h
[14:36] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> (EE) parsing config file
[14:36] <jim_p> people! i need to go have lunch! see you in 20 minutes or so! hold your fire!
[14:36] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Had to load low gfx againb.
[14:36] <dgm> It seems that all mirrors are missing the main fiesty directory.  Anyone here know where to report it?
[14:36]  * Tyrath is holding his fire 
[14:37] <sky_> hi
[14:37] <Wipster> hey, I have a file and I want to split it into two at offset 0x000D0000, how could I go about doing this?
[14:37] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: did you change the resolution had in his file? his had 1280x1024
[14:37] <Tyrath> hi sky_
[14:37] <Pici> dgm: Nowhere. Fiesty has reached End Of Life and is no longer supported.
[14:37] <arcsky> anyone used tftp-hpa?
[14:37] <Pici> !eol > dgm
[14:37] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> my monitor and gfx can support that.
[14:37] <jim_p-lunch> kaiser10123, you have a pm from me
[14:37] <Tyrath> hey does anyone here use rtorrent?
[14:37] <Koordin> thanks ActionParsnip1
[14:37] <onetinsoldier> Koordin: df -H
[14:38] <Koordin> thanks to you also onetinsoldier ^^
[14:38] <NiSoOo> hey all, im trying to use ntpasswd in linux.. someone told me i should mount the fs and use the chngpwd program, how can i do that?
[14:38] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[14:38] <Tyrath> because i want to know if it downloads in parts or if a download fails if I have to start again
[14:38] <silv3r_m00n> i need a color picker tool on the desktop
[14:38] <dgm> hmm.  would be nice if apt-get said that instead of 404
[14:38] <silv3r_m00n> to pick colors and get hex values
[14:38] <onetinsoldier> Koordin: you're welcome. i didn't see that someon lese had answered you :-)
[14:38] <silv3r_m00n> any good one ?
[14:38] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: to get a list of mountable fs use sudo fdisk -l
[14:39] <NiSoOo> tnx
[14:39] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: then to mount make a new directory, ie, mkdir /mnt/mydir
[14:39] <Koordin> onetinsoldier: no problem !
[14:39] <Koordin> i have a problem with apt-get when i try to upgrade : http://rafb.net/p/pMqSCK67.html
[14:39] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: then to mount type mount <location of fs> /mnt/mydir
[14:40] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: fs is prob located somewhere in /dev/
[14:40] <jakechen> pan
[14:40] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: try and see if you can get help from jim_p.   what do you get from the following command?   glxinfo | grep direct  ?
[14:40] <jakechen> pan news
[14:40] <NiSoOo> Tyrath:  i download some file system that comes along with ntpasswd
[14:41] <acc_> Good morning, #Ubuntu.  When I attempted to switch users under GNOME, my Intrepid box locked up.  I cold-booted the machine and now am no longer able to login (gdm just restarts).  Failsafe-GNOME works.  How can I diagnose what the problem is?
[14:41] <jakechen> how to set Pan?
[14:41] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: I'm not a linux expert but personally i don't get why you would. why don't you just change the permissions of the fstab to you? ie, chown <user> /dev/fs*
[14:42] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: because then you have all priveledges for it
[14:42] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> onetinsoldier, nothing.
[14:42] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: who specifically were you trying to password guard it from? you? the admin group? or any user on the comp?
[14:42] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> i get that normal error.
[14:43] <ActionParsnip1> NiSoOo: isnt that the tool to mount and reset nt password sams?
[14:43] <NiSoOo> Tyrath: i dont know about anything of this process, i just know i need to boot it from a cd but i cant (dont have a burner nor usb), so someone told me i should mount the fs and than use it through linux..
[14:43] <NiSoOo> ActionParsnip1: yes
[14:43] <ActionParsnip1> NiSoOo: theres a bootable floppy with that
[14:43] <ActionParsnip1> NiSoOo: its also on the ultimate boot cd
[14:44] <NiSoOo> ActionParsnip1: i cant use bootable floppy. that's way i try to activate it through linux..
[14:44] <Penguiniator> !keyboard
[14:44] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: roger... i'm sorry this hasn't worked out. it's ridiculous.  spending hours just to try and get a driver installed. i do know of one more thing you can try. it probably won't work very good, but you never know
[14:45] <Penguiniator> !Shortcuts
[14:45] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: well I've given you the way of mounting the fstab. as for the CD boot, I don't feel confident in helping you. Last time I fiddled with partition related stuff I swiped my whole HD. Hence why I only use ubuntu now, and don't dual boot with XP
[14:45] <bewst1> Linux has elaborate mechanisms for responding to hardware transitions (e.g. docked->undocked, a/c power -> battery) but I don't see any way to integrate that with initial state setup.  In other words, if I boot my laptop on battery none of the power saving scripts I've got installed get triggered.  What am I missing?
[14:46] <NiSoOo> ok. thanks for your help Tyrath, i really appriciate it =]
[14:46] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: but yeah ActionParsnip1 is a lot more experianced than me. If he says to do something, you should prob follow his lead
[14:46] <ActionParsnip1> NiSoOo: i know the tool, i just dont know it can be run from within linux, i guess it can
[14:46] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: no worries. I'll help with what I can ;)
[14:46]  * Tyrath is ridiculously addicted to green tea
[14:47] <NiSoOo> ActionParsnip1: they told me to mount the fs and then run chngpwd.. it this possible?
[14:47]  * Tyrath should be ranked green tea tannons or something on ubuntu forums and not whatever it is coffee related :P
[14:47] <ChristianBill> Is is possible to assign a hotkey combination to hide/unhide a panel?
[14:48] <Funnyplay> hi
[14:48] <Funnyplay> i got a problem
[14:48] <Funnyplay> i installed ubuntu 8.10 on a usb stick
[14:48] <Funnyplay> is there someone?
[14:48] <wartalker> how to use find to find *.c and *.cpp at the same time
[14:48] <ActionParsnip1> NiSoOo: not sure, ive only used the one off the cd and floppy. you select the partition and location of the sam, you can then change your password
[14:49] <NiSoOo> ok, i'll give it a shot, thanks :)
[14:49] <Tyrath> ChristianBill: Alt+F9 should hide it for you
[14:49] <Funnyplay> can someone help me?
[14:49] <Tyrath> ChristianBill: as for the assigning bit, System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[14:50] <Tyrath> !msg | Funnyplay
[14:50] <Tyrath> Funnyplay: gah ignore that
[14:50] <Funnyplay> wich channel?
[14:50] <Tyrath> Funnyplay: what I'm trying to say is please just ask the question
[14:50] <Tyrath> !ask | Funnyplay
[14:50] <bazhang> Funnyplay, we need an actual question
[14:50] <Funnyplay> ok
[14:50] <chiliblue__> anyone managed to download the iplayer app yet
[14:50] <Funnyplay> so
[14:50] <Pici> !enter
[14:50] <Funnyplay> ok
[14:50] <bazhang> Funnyplay, all on one line
[14:50] <Funnyplay> ok ok
[14:51] <Funnyplay> let me type it then!
[14:51] <ChristianBill> Tyrath: I dont know if this is possible, but I am trying to make a keyboard shortbut to hide/unhide a panel - Like clicking the button in it
[14:51] <Abo_3rb> ﻿Hi, I can not open isohunt.com because of parental control provided by orange ? does tor help in this situation ?
[14:52] <Funnyplay> i installed ubuntu on a USB , when i boot it, it starts up normally, but when i try to install updates or install software i get an error
[14:52] <Tyrath> ChristianBill: oh.. I have no idea, sorry. I use a mouse
[14:52] <gpled> will ubuntu see the new virtualbox release?
[14:52] <bazhang> Funnyplay, it is the persistent or the live version
[14:52] <Funnyplay> persistent
[14:52] <onetinsoldier> having the error is very important
[14:52] <Funnyplay> i've also tried the live version , but then i lose every time my files :(
[14:52] <Pici> Abo_3rb: We cannot help you with that, sorry. Maybe #tor can.
[14:52] <Tyrath> Funnyplay: how do you install?
[14:53] <Funnyplay> with install manager
[14:53] <Tyrath> Funnyplay: sudo apt-get install ?
[14:53] <Funnyplay> then i get the error either
[14:53] <Funnyplay> wait, i'am going to boot it
[14:53] <onetinsoldier> Funnyplay: having the error message is usually important
[14:53] <Tyrath> Funnyplay: have you tried installing the apt tool over a debian install?
[14:53] <fde> ChristianBill: Its already set as ctrl alt d
[14:54] <Funnyplay> what do you mean
[14:54] <Pici> !qho
[14:54] <Tyrath> Funnyplay: ie, find the .deb file for the apt tool and typed dpkg -i <file name>.deb
[14:54] <Pici> !who
[14:55] <Funnyplay> tyrath?
[14:55] <fde> Tyrath: what apt tool do you think you mean?
[14:55] <Tyrath> Funnyplay: I'd do a google search for you but I'm trying to download something atm so my search would just timeout
[14:55] <Funnyplay> can we go private?
[14:55] <Tyrath> fde: apt-get
[14:55] <fde> Tyrath: why would he need to install apt-get?
[14:55] <onetinsoldier> fde: he means the 'apt' package
[14:55] <Tyrath> fde: because it's not working properly
[14:55] <fde> onetinsoldier: again, why would he need to install it?
[14:55] <Tyrath> fde: and he could apt-get install -f
[14:56] <fde> Tyrath: how so? he's trying to dist-upgrade correct?
[14:56] <sky_> anyone know some good PDB reader ???
[14:56] <Tyrath> or apt-get -f install
[14:56] <Tyrath> i forget now
[14:56] <Pici> Tyrath: What are you basing that on, you don't even have an error message to go on.
[14:56] <fde> Tyrath: order doesn't matter... you probably shouldn't take him private though if you aren't sure on the commands etc
[14:56] <Tyrath> Pici: true. but it's a lead
[14:56] <Tyrath> fde: i never suggested that was a good idea
[14:56] <Pici> Funnyplay: Please pastebin the error that you are getting and then we can try helping you.
[14:56] <jim_p> back
[14:57] <Pici> !paste > Funnyplay
[14:57] <Funnyplay> what are the advantages of the live version
[14:57] <Funnyplay> ok
[14:57] <Tyrath> Funnyplay: we'll stick to the public channel
[14:57] <sky_> !pdb
[14:57] <acc_> Good morning, #Ubuntu.  When I attempted to switch users under GNOME, my Intrepid box locked up.  I cold-booted the machine and now am no longer able to login (gdm just restarts).  Failsafe-GNOME works.  How can I diagnose what the problem is?
[14:57] <Pici> Tyrath: Don't make those suggestions then.
[14:57] <Tyrath> Funnyplay: i'd help you in pm if I'd ever faced the same problem before only i haven't
[14:57] <ChristianBill> Tyrath: Do you know if its possible to modify the hide panel buttons?
[14:57] <jim_p> Tyrath, any problems?
[14:57] <onetinsoldier> fde: not that it really matters or anything, but i was only answering this question by you...  what apt tool do you think you mean?   -->  he means the 'apt' package
[14:57] <dgm> Pici: with that fiesty folder missing on the archives, the upgrade process breaks too. :(
[14:57] <sky_> !ebooks
[14:57] <sky_> :[
[14:57] <Tyrath> Pici: wow. I try to help a guy out and you just criticise me
[14:58] <jim_p> ChristianBill, no you cant alter them:(
[14:58] <ChristianBill> Awww darn
[14:58] <Pici> dgm: You can temporarily change your /etc/apt/sources.list file to point to old-releases.ubuntu.com for the update process.
[14:58] <Pici> !upgrade > dgm
[14:58] <fde> ChristianBill: System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts ... its "Hide windows and show desktop" or something to that effect... like I said its set to ctrl alt d by default, but its easy to change
[14:58] <Tyrath> jim_p: do you use rtorrent?
[14:58] <jim_p> Tyrath, no :(
[14:58] <Tyrath> jim_p: if you know java i could pm you questions :P
[14:58] <fde> Tyrath: Because its not helpful to give false information... if you dont know the answer, don't comment, it just causes confusion.
[14:59] <craigaa> Hi All. I have about 25Gb of data that I would like to put on DVD. I could manually organise the data and burn it onto disc, but would like to know if there is a way I can do this automatically. I do not want to create archive files, but put the individual files onto disc in the same folder hierarchy. Any ideas?
[14:59] <daNz_ajah> hai..
[14:59] <Funnyplay> system is booted
[14:59] <jim_p> Tyrath, is it a torrent problem?
[14:59] <jim_p> Tyrath, i dont know java
[14:59] <Funnyplay> i will type the error now
[14:59] <Tyrath> fde: false? please tell me what the harm is in reinstalling an application.... please!
[14:59] <ChristianBill> fde: No thats not what Im looking for. I am trying to figure out if I can make a button that emulates a click on the hide button of a panel
[14:59] <ChristianBill> I dont think its possible though
[14:59] <jim_p> craigaa, you mean some backup solution?
[14:59] <Tyrath> jim_p: just curious what the throttle features do
[15:00] <craigaa> jim_p: sort of, but most backups want to create tar or zip files
[15:00] <NiSoOo> ok i downloaded the ntpasswd and i got an iso file.. where to go from here ?
[15:00] <rcmysoft> helo, all i have a question to the rights. I wanted to sell a 2GB USB Live-Ubuntu Image. Is it allowed, does someone know?
[15:01] <Tyrath> fde: i'm lucky if whenever i download an application it works straight the first time. usually i'm reinstalling, changing settings, doing all that to get them to work
[15:01] <fde> rcmysoft: yes its allowed...
[15:01] <jim_p> Tyrath, maybe avoid traffic shaping by isps?
[15:01] <Tyrath> fde: and guess what... eventually they do
[15:01] <V0iD> rcmysoft NO! its open source
[15:01] <Funnyplay> i tried synaptic
[15:01] <rcmysoft> sure
[15:01] <ChristianBill> Can anyone recommend a very light webbrowser, one that doesnt take as much memory and cpu time as firefox
[15:01] <rcmysoft> ?
[15:01] <Tyrath> ChristianBill: try elinks
[15:01] <NiSoOo> V0iD: it's like selling a computer with ubuntu installed..
[15:01] <NiSoOo> so it's ok
[15:01] <ChristianBill> Tyrath: Ok thanks
[15:01] <kitche> rcmysoft: well yes but you also need to give the source away :)
[15:01] <Tyrath> !elinks | ChristianBill
[15:01] <dr_willis> seamonkey, dillo, links, lynx, opera.
[15:01] <Tyrath> gah
[15:02] <Tyrath> ChristianBill: it's a text browser tho
[15:02] <fde> V0iD: actually, the license explicitly gives permission... I can copy and paste the exact line if you'd like? please don't misinform rcmysoft
[15:02] <jim_p> chris4585, opera. same features as ff + some more
[15:02] <V0iD> but your not selling ubuntu your selling the computer
[15:02] <Tyrath> ChristianBill: also if you want a graphical browser try opera. it's more lightweight than firefox
[15:02] <onetinsoldier> V0iD: ??? it is allowed. you just have to make sure of a few things. for instance, that they have access to the source code if they want it
[15:02] <jim_p> ChristianBill, opera. same features as ff + some more
[15:02] <jim_p> sorry chris4585
[15:02] <NiSoOo> V0iD: yes.. that's why it's allowed.
[15:02] <rcmysoft> yes please. Thank you
[15:02] <Tyrath> jim_p: i do that aswell sometimes :P lol
[15:02] <fde> V0iD: actually, as per the language, you're selling the media the software is installed on... be it a cd or indeed a computer or whatever
[15:02] <jim_p> lol
[15:03] <kaiser10123> jim_p: does opera use less resources then ff
[15:03] <V0iD> NO Linus torvold is in trouble for selling redhat because he used opensource code!
[15:03] <bazhang> !offtopic
[15:03] <Tyrath> ChristianBill: personally i love firefox when dealing with graphical stuff, so if I don't need the graphic features I just use elinks
[15:03] <jim_p> kaiser10123, a lot less. but new versions of flash sometimes dont work in opera
[15:03] <rcmysoft> it is just the image file not a cd
[15:03] <bazhang> please take this chat elsewhere.
[15:03] <fde> V0iD: umm, Linus doesn't sell RedHat...
[15:03] <ChristianBill> Tyrath: Ill try to download elinks and opera
[15:03] <V0iD> Linus made it!
[15:03] <ChristianBill> See how they are
[15:03] <Funnyplay> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88556/
[15:03] <bazhang> V0iD, rcmysoft to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:04] <fde> rcmysoft: then you are charging for the bandwidth etc etc... its perfectly legal though if you can convince them to pay
[15:04] <Funnyplay> here is the error i get when i run synaptic
[15:04] <bazhang> fde please
[15:04] <jim_p> ChristianBill, elinks is in the repos
[15:04] <sky_> anyone with WINDOWS ?
[15:04] <sky_> i need anything :[
[15:04] <Funnyplay> ME i have windows
[15:04] <Pici> sky_: ##windows can help you if you have Windows issues.
[15:04] <fde> sky_: ##windows folks probably do
[15:04] <V0iD> You break the GNU lisence when you sell opensouce!
[15:04] <bazhang> ##windows sky_
[15:04] <jim_p> sky_, me!
[15:04] <Abo_3rb> sky_: lol
[15:04] <sky_> who can reboot for me to Windows ?
[15:04] <Funnyplay> tyrath?
[15:04] <bazhang> V0iD, please chat elsewhere
[15:05] <Loganphyve> can anyone help with a sound issue in 8.10?
[15:05] <jim_p> sky_, what for?
[15:05] <NiSoOo> V0iD: but you dont sell the open source, you sell the 2GB USB
[15:05] <jim_p> Loganphyve, tell us!
[15:05] <Pici> sky_: This is not the windows support channel. Please join ##windows if you need their support.
[15:05] <Wesleysld> V0iD, its linus torvAldS O:)
[15:05] <Funnyplay> Who was helping me?
[15:05] <rcmysoft> ok thank you i will go to offtopic
[15:05] <sky_> i dont need support
[15:05] <sky_> i need person with WIN so.........
[15:05] <Tyrath> ChristianBill: movies, flash, javascript and that sort of thing will probably not be processed in elinks. but it's ideal for quick browsing, reading text, and you can even set it up to play music files, look at images, pipe things into email clients...
[15:05] <NiSoOo> sky_: ok :)
[15:05] <Loganphyve> plugging in my headphones does nothing
[15:05] <Tyrath> Funnyplay: what's up?
[15:05] <Funnyplay> v
[15:05] <Loganphyve> sounds stays with speakers
[15:05] <Funnyplay> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88556/
[15:05] <Pici> sky_: Then why are you asking people to reboot to windows. This is the Ubuntu support channel.
[15:05] <Funnyplay> here is the error
[15:05] <bazhang> sky_, then dont chat here; this is support for ubuntu only
[15:05] <Loganphyve> on a laptio
[15:05] <sdousley|work> Hi All, i'm getting problems installing an RPM on a fresh install of 8.04, it says /bin/sh is needed and /usr/bin/perl is needed, yet those files exist anyone any ideas
[15:05] <Funnyplay> when i run synaptic
[15:05] <FloodBot1> Funnyplay: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:05] <Funnyplay> ?
[15:06] <sky_> but ubuntu dont have pdb reader so ubuntu suck
[15:06] <NiSoOo> anyone has any experience with ntpasswd aroung her?
[15:06] <kitche> Funnyplay: lag on bot's part
[15:06] <jim_p> sdousley|work, errrr you dont install rpms in a DEB distro! this is forbidden
[15:06] <belkinhelp2> having a mobile phone USB issue.  THe phone is  a nokia 8800 arte sapphire.  Im running Hardy Heron.  The USB icon lights up on the phone and charges the battery but when i give the sudo fdisk -lu command the USB connection is not listed
[15:06] <belkinhelp2> any suggestions would be most welcome
[15:06] <sdousley|work> jim_p: OK, what should i do? I *JUST* read about alien to convert to a .deb?
[15:06] <pepperjack> sky_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=543660
[15:06] <onetinsoldier> sdousley|work: are you using alien? which never works anyway? lol
[15:06]  * NiSoOo needs help with ntpasswd.. only experienced guys...
[15:06] <Dino_Debian> belkinhelp2: and with ubuntu in phone, you can speak with people? sorry for my english
[15:07] <Funnyplay> is this enough information to solve the issue?
[15:07] <sdousley|work> onetinsoldier: I'm just trying to install the rpm hehe
[15:07] <jim_p> sdousley|work, what is the thing you have on .rpm and its not in .deb and inside the package manager?
[15:07] <belkinhelp2> Dino_debian....i dont want to speak with people using this phone...just want to upload some pics
[15:07] <onetinsoldier> sdousley|work: that doesn't answer my question at all... are you using alien?
[15:07] <Tyrath> Funnyplay: they link you sent me didn't have any text... unless that's my web browser :/
[15:07] <sdousley|work> jim_p: it's an RPM for "Adaptec Storage Manager" for a hardware raid card.
[15:07] <Dino_Debian> belkinhelp2: ok ;)
[15:07] <Loganphyve> i have a sony viao laptop with sigmatek audio card. Sound is fine thru the pc speakers, but when i plug my headphones in, the sound stays with the pc speakers and doesn't go to the headphones. any ideas?
[15:07] <Funnyplay> please hold while i check
[15:07] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: please explain why you need the password
[15:07] <jim_p> sdousley|work, any link to the page you got it from?
[15:08] <sdousley|work> onetinsoldier: no, i was tryin rpm -ivh should i run it thru alien first?
[15:08] <belkinhelp2> dino_debian...how do i get the usb connection to recognize the phone?
[15:08] <onetinsoldier> sdousley|work: yes
[15:08] <Funnyplay> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88556/
[15:08] <sdousley|work> jim_p: http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/raid/storage_manager/asm_linux_x86_v5_30_17509_rpm.htm
[15:08] <belkinhelp2> is there a special nokia support chat room for Linux users?
[15:08] <Dino_Debian> belkinhelp2: I dont know, sorry.
[15:09] <NiSoOo> Tyrath: to make an administrator password on my windows, so i can access the windows recovery tool and use fixmbr  to use my windows. in my case, im 8 months with linux, but i need windows to make highschool works (my school sucks uses VB 6.. =\)
[15:09] <mick02> belkinhelp2 have you run a lsusb command from the terminal to see if the phone was recognised?
[15:09] <Loganphyve> jim_p:  any ideas on that sound issue?
[15:09] <Tyrath> Funnyplay: it's not coming through :/
[15:10] <Tyrath> Funnyplay: atleast for me anyway
[15:10] <jim_p> Loganphyve, can you please repeat it? i got lost in here
[15:10] <Funnyplay> shall i copy it here
[15:10] <OxDeadC0de> nisooo you know grub can launch windows don't you?
[15:10] <Loganphyve> sure
[15:10] <Funnyplay> E:Encountered a section with no package:header
[15:10] <Funnyplay> E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status
[15:10] <Funnyplay> E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened
[15:10] <NiSoOo> OxDeadC0de: i know. it's not the problem here. it wont boot ntldr.. because i should use fixmbr
[15:10] <Funnyplay> E:_cache->open() failed, please report
[15:10] <mib_bxvl7i> hi does anyone know how to adjust the contrast settings in ubuntu?
[15:10] <Funnyplay> that's it
[15:10] <jim_p> sdousley|work, is it the same to this            http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/dpt-i2o-raidutils
[15:11] <NiSoOo> and to do that i need windows recovery tool, that dont work if the administrator has no password. so im trying to set him one..
[15:11] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: highschool works? I bet there's a linux alternative program that will let you do your highschool works. Furthermore why don't you just transfer your files from your windows mount to linux?
[15:11] <bazhang> NiSoOo, this is a question about windows?
[15:11] <NiSoOo> Tyrath: VB 6 wont work for me.
[15:11] <jim_p> NiSoOo, have you tried pcloginnow?
[15:11] <Loganphyve> jim_p:  i have a sony viao laptop with ubuntu 8.10 on it, it has a sigmatek onboard audio. when i plug headphones in, sounds still comes thru the pc speakers and it doesnt come thru the port
[15:11] <Tyrath> Funnyplay: oh. yes that came through lol. i thought it was a pastebin error, sorry lol
[15:11] <fudpucker> i am using dual displays....one screen is my notebook, the other is my dell 24" display, i have the screen spanning working, but when i drag something back and forth between the two screens, i get this line across them
[15:11] <Funnyplay> lol
[15:11] <NiSoOo> jim_p: no, what is that?
[15:11] <fudpucker> any idea how to fix this
[15:12] <jim_p> NiSoOo, some live cd that can find windows passwords
[15:12] <Tyrath> Funnyplay: are you sure ubuntu installed correctly on your USB key because it seems it has trouble opening from cache
[15:12] <jim_p> NiSoOo, in case you get locked outside
[15:12] <bazhang> NiSoOo, please take windows questions to ##windows
[15:13] <NiSoOo> jim_p: i can't use live cd's because i dont have a burner. my computer is fucking 9 years old, lol :D
[15:13] <Pici> NiSoOo: Please watch your language here.
[15:13] <ChristianBill> What is the command to show you video driver?
[15:13] <bazhang> NiSoOo, and watch the language
[15:13] <ChristianBill> frglx or something I think
[15:13] <NiSoOo> bazhang: i did, and i asked how to get ntpasswd through linux and they reffer me in here.
[15:13] <Funnyplay> are there normally limitations when using the USB ubuntu?
[15:13] <jim_p> ChristianBill, glxinfo?
[15:14] <Tyrath> Funnyplay: i'm really not one to ask for this. I've never tried running ubuntu of a usb stick. maybe your usb stick is full and can't fit any more programs on it...
[15:14] <mib_bxvl7i> hi does anyone know how to adjust the contrast settings in ubuntu?
[15:14] <bazhang> NiSoOo, that was their error, it cant be done. ##windows for those questions NOT here
[15:14] <Funnyplay> no it is not full
[15:14] <Funnyplay> it is a 8GB
[15:14] <NiSoOo> Tyrath: is there a way mounting the iso file directly?
[15:14] <onetinsoldier> jim_p: i don't think that really shows it
[15:14] <Funnyplay> and it has still 6 GB Free
[15:14] <ChristianBill> jim_p: Doesnt show the name though
[15:14] <NiSoOo> bazhang: it can. if you dont know the application, dont talk about it any further.
[15:14] <IdleOne> Funnyplay, need atleast 4 gig to be able to install applications
[15:15] <NiSoOo> it was ment for this situations..
[15:15] <Funnyplay> i have
[15:15] <Funnyplay> SO
[15:15] <jim_p> ChristianBill, lspci | grep VGA
[15:15] <bazhang> NiSoOo, you are offtopic here. please stop.
[15:15] <IdleOne> my 2 gig runs ubuntu 8.10 great
[15:15] <Funnyplay> Can you tell me then
[15:15] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: try mount -o -loop -t iso9660 <filename>.iso
[15:15] <Funnyplay> how to install it properly,
[15:15] <Tyrath> NiSoOo:
[15:15] <onetinsoldier> ChristianBill: look in either your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file for  Driver   "name"  ...or look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:15] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: oh and then put the directory after that
[15:15] <ksbalaji> My friend deleted  a few unwanted fonts using adeptmanager. Having problems with SCIM, he uninstalled it. Then his openoffice failed and now ultimately ubuntu hardy does not boot beyond text prompt. Nautilus does not work. Please advise so that I can help him.
[15:16] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: try mount -o -loop -t iso9660 <filename>.iso <directory name>/
[15:16] <IdleOne> Funnyplay, install what properly?
[15:16] <onetinsoldier> ChristianBill: there may be an actual command, but i don't know what it is
[15:16] <WastePuree> Is Flash 10 in the repos, or do I need to download the .deb from Adobe's site?
[15:16] <jim_p> !audio
[15:16] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: so best to make a new directory first
[15:16] <Funnyplay> ubuntu on USB
[15:16] <ChristianBill> Oh well, nevermind
[15:16] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: so if you want to do it on the desktop: mount -o -loop -t iso9660 <filename>.iso ~/Desktop/dir
[15:17] <IdleOne> !usb | Funnyplay
[15:17] <fat_rat> how to change ubuntu menu icon?
[15:17] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: that's after you've done mkdir ~/Desktop/dir
[15:17] <Ax-Ax> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=936304
[15:17] <sdousley|work> jim_p: not sure if that will cover the same hardware or not.
[15:17] <sdousley|work> jim_p: can i just pass it thru alien to make the .deb file and then install it from there?
[15:18] <NiSoOo> Tyrath: i tried: mount /ntpasswd -o -loop -t iso9660 /home/niso/ntpasswd/cd080802.iso but it says /ntpasswd is not a block device..
[15:18] <Funnyplay> which of the two methods you advise
[15:18] <hischild> sdousley|work, don't use alien, it's highly likely it'll break your package
[15:18] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: or you can combine it into one statement, ie: mkdir ~/Desktop/mydir && mount -o -loop -t iso9660 <filename>.iso ~/Desktop/mydir
[15:18] <jim_p> sdousley|work, you can but it cant guarantee results
[15:18] <jim_p> !audio
[15:18] <sdousley|work> hischild: jim_p hehe fair enough.
[15:18] <ikonia> NiSoOo thats not the format
[15:18] <Dino_Debian> bye, I must to go
[15:18] <Photoguy> How do I run something in the terminal?     cd /home/adams/Racer050/       then (the executable) "racer "       ?
[15:18] <Pici> Photoguy: ./racer
[15:18] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: why are you putting /ntpasswd there?
[15:18] <erUSUL> Photoguy: ./racer
[15:18] <fat_rat> how to change ubuntu menu icon?
[15:18] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: take out /ntpasswd
[15:18] <Photoguy> ok
[15:18] <sdousley|work> jim_p: to install the resultant .deb is it just apt-get install ./filename.deb?
[15:19] <mib_bxvl7i> hi does anyone know how to adjust the contrast settings in ubuntu?
[15:19] <NiSoOo> mount: /home/niso/ntpasswd/cd080802.iso is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)
[15:19] <jim_p> sdousley|work, sudo dpkg -i something.deb
[15:19] <ikonia> NiSoOo mount -o loop /home/niso/ntpasswd/cd080802.iso $mountpoint
[15:19] <ASULutzy> NiSoOo: You're doing it wrong
[15:19] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: what ikonia said
[15:19] <NiSoOo> ok got it working :)
[15:20] <mick02> I've got a Ubuntu Server in work and I've been asked to roll out an AntiVirus upgrade to approx 300 workstations. Is there some kind of software that I can install on the Ubuntu server to push this software out to the (Windows) computers on the LAN?
[15:20] <Photoguy> cd /home/adams/Racer050/       then  ./racer?
[15:20] <NiSoOo> thanks all
[15:20] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: yeah so just take out the /ntpasswd
[15:20] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: the output directory has to be after the .iso file
[15:20] <ASULutzy> Photoguy: Yes, you may have to do cd /home/adams/Racer050 && chmod +x ./racer && ./racer
[15:20] <Tyrath> NiSoOo: in the command line that is
[15:20] <ASULutzy> Photoguy: If it's not executable yet
[15:20] <Hideme> hello cyber friends
[15:20] <pepperjack> mib_975o21: i use xgamma command
[15:21] <NiSoOo> i got it working thanks Tyrath :)
[15:21] <onetinsoldier> hischild: i've been told that if you don't use alien and just try to install an rpm straight up, it'll likely break your system
[15:21] <Tyrath> no worries
[15:21] <pepperjack> mib_975o21: xgamma -gamma 2   or whatever or xgamma -rgamma 2  is more pretty
[15:21] <Tyrath> ok i'm off
[15:21] <Tyrath> catch you peeps
[15:21] <fudpucker> i am using dual displays....one screen is my notebook, the other is my dell 24" display, i have the screen spanning working, but when i drag something back and forth between the two screens, i get this line across them
[15:21] <fudpucker> any idea how to fix this
[15:21] <hischild> onetinsoldier, don't use RPM at all, there's the apt system for it. If you really  need to use an RPM package, you're doing something wrong.
[15:22] <ikonia> fudpucker: using nvidia card ?
[15:22] <fudpucker> no, intel
[15:22] <ikonia> fudpucker: seen that with nvidia, not intel
[15:23] <fudpucker> it wasn't doing it yesterday....it just started today
[15:23] <onetinsoldier> hischild: i don't use it either, because i've never gotten rpm's to install the very few times i've ever tried, same thing with aliev... alien never works. unless, it's a very simple little package, then of course, either method works. lol
[15:23] <jx> who have eva for 64
[15:23] <ksbalaji> My friend deleted  a few unwanted fonts using adeptmanager. Having problems with SCIM, he uninstalled it. Then his openoffice failed and now ultimately ubuntu hardy does not boot beyond text prompt. Nautilus does not work. Please advise so that I can help him- I repeat after 5 minutes of waiting.
[15:23] <gaintsura> hey all... after the most recent kernel upgrade, my wifi (Atheros AR242x) was using madwifi, but I can no longer use my wireless... I tried reinstalling madwifi but still no avail, I do not have wireless
[15:23] <fifinighka> Hello all. What is an easy app I could use in Ubuntu to set create websites???
[15:23] <ASULutzy> onetinsoldier: The only time I've used alien was for installing lightscribe stuff on my laptop, but yea, generally better to either find a .deb or compile the source
[15:23] <hischild> onetinsoldier, i'll just use the source of the package and compile it myself. I'll always find another way so i don't have to use RPM's. And if there isn't a source available, then i just won't use it.
[15:24] <ikonia> fifinighka: web design applications are a bit limited on linux at the moment
[15:24] <fifinighka> ikonia: :(
[15:24] <gaintsura> O.o
[15:24] <gaintsura> ikonia: ?? how so?
[15:24] <fifinighka> ikonia: I see
[15:24] <mick02> Any Linux software out there that I can use to deploy software to a number of PC's on a LAN?
[15:24] <gaintsura> fifinighka: how much experience do you have and what kind of interface are you looking for?
[15:25] <ikonia> gaintsura there is not a lot of applications and they are not as advanced or user friendly as the majority of windows platforms such as dreamweaver as an easy example
[15:25] <NiSoOo> anyone here know's how to deal with ntpasswd ?
[15:25] <ikonia> mick02: shellscripts, satellite,
[15:25] <ikonia> NiSoOo: in what way
[15:25] <gaintsura> ikonia: WYSWIG editors are the worst thing since AIDS
[15:25] <chazco> Hi... is it possible to use 2 graphics cards with Ubuntu? 1 internal (nvidia, d-sub) and 1 pci (old, but has s-video out)?
[15:25] <ikonia> gaintsura: I didn't say they whre a good tool, but they are a missing feature on linux that  alot of users want
[15:26] <onetinsoldier> ASULutzy and hischild: same here.. i get the source. i consider myself a mean go-getter when it comes to getting a source package to compile. i've gone to great lengths before to get a source to compile and install into the proper dirs. i always figure, if someone else has gotten this to compile, then i sure as hell can too! :-)
[15:26] <mick02> Cheers ikonia
[15:26] <gaintsura> the drag and drop feature?
[15:26] <fifinighka> gaintsura: I have NO experience actually. I figure I can learn. I am just trying to create a simple website with text and may host some videos on it. Also I am thinking of creating a 'donate' button on it. As far as I know though, all this can be hosted on my Ubuntu PC?
[15:26] <NiSoOo> ikonia: im trying to excecute it from linux itself.. i've been told to mount it (and so i did) and than use chngpwd.. but chngpwd does not exists.
[15:26] <pepperjack> gaintsura: just boot the old kernel i suppose is the quick fix
[15:26] <hischild> onetinsoldier, sam ehere
[15:26] <NiSoOo> what am i doing wrong ?
[15:26] <ikonia> NiSoOo: if chnpwd doesn't exist you need to get it
[15:26] <gaintsura> pepperjack: don't have the old kernel, had to dump it to upgrade to this one (/boot is only 40MB)
[15:27] <NiSoOo> ikonia: that's the problem, i downloaded the full iso and it's just not there..
[15:27] <ikonia> NiSoOo we can't help you with that
[15:27] <NiSoOo> maybe some other executeble creates this file?
[15:27] <ASULutzy> NiSoOo: sudo apt-get install chntpw
[15:27] <ikonia> NiSoOo dont' know, contact the makers
[15:27] <NiSoOo> ok thanks
[15:27] <gaintsura> fifinighka: thats pretty simple yes it can be hosted on your ubuntu pc, but as far as website stuff goes... would be better to learn the html than use a dreamweaver type interface
[15:28] <fde> ikonia: just putting it out there, but you know ntpasswd is in universe?
[15:28] <ASULutzy> NiSoOo: I just joined, what are you trying to do? Just change the password on a Windows machine?
[15:28] <ikonia> fde yup
[15:28] <fifinighka> gaintsura: I see. Ty for the help! :)
[15:28] <gaintsura> fifinighka: np
[15:28] <V0id> Gaintsura ==> dreamweaver can code to!
[15:28] <ASULutzy> NiSoOo: Cause that can be done pretty simply using chntpw among other tools
[15:29] <mick02> ikonia you don't have a link for satellite do you? I'm Googling but I can't find anything
[15:29] <ikonia> mick02 redhat product
[15:29] <ikonia> mick02: also lok at puppet
[15:29] <ikonia> look at puppet
[15:29] <Gordo> gordo
[15:29] <mick02> Cheers ikonia
[15:30] <gaintsura> V0id: sure it can, if you like unstandardized code
[15:30] <nexus23> Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied.   cannot mount volume : a security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see the message bus configuration file ( rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal"
[15:30] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> onetinsoldier, Trying to make .deb pkg's from the .run file, its download autoconf plugs for it Looking hopeful.
[15:30] <nexus23> can anyone tell me what that means?
[15:30] <Gordo> hi
[15:30] <fde> mick02: search google for spacewalk ... puppet isn't really related, although genome is really nice, and its part of that framework...
[15:31] <fde> nexus23: have you enabled selinux or something similar?
[15:31] <nexus23> dont think so
[15:31] <V0id> gaintsura ==. If you want any credit for making a good site you have to learn code! HTML is the easiest too learn!
[15:31] <Arrowhead212002> just wondering, which protocol "hub" (ie pigin) would allow me to get on the mIRC chanels
[15:31] <mick02> thanks fde ... I'm looking for something that is cross platform compatible
[15:31] <nexus23> dont even know what that is
[15:31] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: i wish you luck! you still have the driver installed? i know of one thing you can try real quick. but, i don't think it will work, but ya never know!
[15:32] <gaintsura> V0id: of course =) I've been coding and programming since I was 12-13
[15:32] <onetinsoldier> jim_p: hello? CoUrPsE|DeAd never did get his fglrx working properly
[15:32] <V0id> gaintsura ==> SNAP
[15:32] <gaintsura> started C++ when I was 12, moved on to html/php at 15
[15:32] <ASULutzy> mick02: Just make some tricky perl scripts or something to do it ;) Run ssh on the master server, have scripts on each of the clients that check for stuff and then pull it down and run it
[15:32] <V0id> not that early though!
[15:32] <fde> mick02: to do what? one that comes to mind is ebox (I think, somethingbox anyways) which is in most distros... its a pretty extensive tool, but of course it probably can't do packages for everything, which is basically what spacewalk/satellite is
[15:33] <ksbalaji> My friend deleted  a few unwanted fonts using adeptmanager. Having problems with SCIM, he uninstalled it. Then his openoffice failed and now ultimately ubuntu hardy does not boot beyond text prompt. Nautilus does not work. Please advise so that I can help him- I repeat after 10 minutes of waiting
[15:33] <jim_p> onetinsoldier, :(
[15:33] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: let me say this... making a .deb will only help with ease of installation and uninstallation. it won't make any difference as to whether or not the driver works.
[15:33] <hischild> ksbalaji, install ubuntu-desktop
[15:33] <gaintsura> V0id: I was the epitome of the 'Uber geek child'
[15:34] <Arrowhead212002> just wondering, which protocol "hub" (ie pigin) would allow me to get on the mIRC chanels
[15:34] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yeah, i read the xserver log, and it says no device for dbus 1:0:0
[15:34] <ksbalaji> hischild, thanks i will convey.
[15:34] <fde> ksbalaji: hischild actually means install kubuntu-desktop... as you're using kde
[15:34] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> so im hoping it makes a good xorg.conf file.
[15:34] <hischild> ksbalaji, ho wait!
[15:34] <hischild> fde, nice catch there
[15:34] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, well there is a line in xorg.conf that states the bus for the device and you can change it
[15:34] <hischild> ksbalaji, fde is right. You should install kubuntu-desktop, since you're using kde instead of gnome.
[15:34] <mick02> fde, ASULutzy, thanks for the feedback. Basically I've got 2 Linux servers on my work LAN but there are approx 200 clients and 8 Windows servers. I'm trying to do an AV upgrade to all the clients in the LAN by pushing the software to all client machines on the network. I'm looking for a Linux equivalent of SMS Server I guess
[15:34] <V0id> My friend fde! hehe
[15:35] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> jim_p, Yep, but i dunno what to change it tol.
[15:35] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, what does your       lspci | grep VGA say?
[15:35] <onetinsoldier> jim_p: he's here if you have any more suggestions for him. i worked for hours to try and get it installed. i don't get it. for me, i made sure i started with a good xorg.conf file with the following command with x shut down Xorg -configure. then i installed the fglrx file, and i was done.
[15:35] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> nothing now, i have uninstalled the ati drivers.
[15:35] <ksbalaji> hischild, can you  please quote what my friend has to type in his promt command.
[15:36] <hischild> ksbalaji, ofcourse. This should do the trick --> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[15:36] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, this command works without drivers and the like. it even works without gui
[15:36] <adam7> onetinsoldier, CoUrPsE|DeAd: have you tried it with no xorg.conf file? are you on intrepid?
[15:36] <fde> mick02: there is apt-proxy for any debian machines... then of course spacewalk for the redhat machines... I don't think there is anything that can push .debs AND .rpms currently though
[15:36] <onetinsoldier> jim_p: i should say, he does have the actual driver installed. it installed with no errors. just his X isn't configure properly or something
[15:36] <Sivam> hischild: for installing kubuntu-desktop u need to update your repositories
[15:36] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> jim_p, Um, crap?
[15:36] <ksbalaji> hischild, my friend now on phone says that he does not use kubuntu.
[15:37] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> adam7, Not i havent tried that, and yes i am.
[15:37] <hischild> ksbalaji, ask him what which OS he has, and which version.
[15:37] <hischild> Sivam, it's a meta package. Why should you update?
[15:37] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, open the terminal and type                      lspci | grep VGA              and paste the output here. it must be one line all in all
[15:37] <fde> mick02: and apt-proxy won't do the pushing either... you'd need to maintain meta-packages much like ubuntu-desktop and modify it with anything new you want... then have the clients auto-upgrade
[15:37] <ksbalaji> hischild, he says that it is ubuntu 8.04
[15:37] <hischild> ksbalaji, is he using adept or synaptic?
[15:37] <ksbalaji> hischild,  adept
[15:37] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R300 ND [Radeon 9700 Pro]
[15:37] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Sorry, did vga in lower case.
[15:37] <fde> ksbalaji: if he's got adept on his machine, he's using kubuntu, whether he knows it or not  :)
[15:38] <hischild> ksbalaji, ok. Does he know if he uses gnome or kde?
[15:38] <adam7> CoUrPsE|DeAd: just out of curiosity, why did you not use the hardware drivers manager thing?
[15:38] <mick02> Hmm cheers fde. I reckon I'll do a little bit of research and see if there is anything that I can use. Thanks for the repiles though
[15:38] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Coz nothing comes up in there.
[15:38] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> its empty.
[15:38] <onetinsoldier> adam7: he is on intrepid... 32-bit
[15:38] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, then you MUST alter the line that says       	BusID		"PCI:1:05:0"    to                 	BusID		"PCI:1:00:0"
[15:38] <ksbalaji> hischild, now how can he find what he uses? gnome/ kde? I feel he uses gnome,
[15:38] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> jim_p, im using my own .conf now.
[15:38] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> i hav 1:0:0 there.
[15:38] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, notice the numbers on the begining of the line? that is the bus id
[15:39] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> does it have to be 1:00:0 ?
[15:39] <hischild> ksbalaji, there's 2 different stories around. Adept means he uses KDE. Synaptic means that he uses Gnome. This should clarify it all up --> where is his application menu, on the bottom or at the top?
[15:39] <fde> ksbalaji: if nautilus is craping out, then its gnome, ask him to confirm that he meant adept manager... he might have both installed
[15:39] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, no its the same
[15:39] <gangsterlicious> i tried to install CSF firewall but it doesn't seem to be working. anyone have any ideas?
[15:39] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Thought as much.
[15:39] <Guest14588> hello , i am configuring apache to use dav and svn , i would like to have svn acess with the same acount pass , where is the ubunto file user pass file ?
[15:40] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, use the opensource radeon driver then!
[15:40] <bazhang> gangsterlicious, install from where
[15:40] <bazhang> gangsterlicious, what OS and what version
[15:40] <hischild> fde, that's why i just asked where his application menu is.
[15:41] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> how to install .deb file?
[15:41] <fde> Guest14588: dpkg -L apache2 | grep etc  (probably, or whatever package you installed for apache)
[15:41] <ksbalaji> fde, yes he has both adeptmanager and synaptic installed. But he uses only adeptmanager.
[15:41] <ASULutzy> CoUrPsE|DeAd: sudo dpkg -i theNameOfThePackage.deb
[15:41] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, what .deb file??
[15:41] <fde> CoUrPsE|DeAd: just double click on it in Ubuntu... in cli sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[15:41] <hischild> ksbalaji, and where is his applicatin menu?
[15:41] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: it's already on your system.. do you have the xorg.conf-vesa file?
[15:41] <hischild> *application
[15:41] <gangsterlicious> bazhang: from source (http://www.configserver.com/cp/csf.html). ubuntu hardy. i specified only port 22 open and installed dropbear on port 2222. csf seems to start fine but i can ssh to port 2222.
[15:41] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> thank you.
[15:41] <fde> CoUrPsE|DeAd: you almost never had to install actual .debs though... make sure its not in the repos first
[15:41] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, if THAT file exists in synaptic, you install it from there to take care of dependencies
[15:41] <ksbalaji> hischild, it used to be at left top
[15:41] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> i built the .run file into .deb files.
[15:42] <pepperjack> CoUrPsE|DeAd: what are you installing? usually you can find it in the repos
[15:42] <hischild> ksbalaji, meaning he uses gnome (correct fde?)
[15:42] <bazhang> gangsterlicious, port 2222?
[15:42] <ksbalaji> hischild, yes
[15:42] <gangsterlicious> not allowing incoming ICMP ping and i can ping the host. iptables -L shows rules loaded
[15:42] <adam7> CoUrPsE|DeAd: what was wrong with using the hardware drivers manager in System -> Administration?
[15:42] <gangsterlicious> dropbear is an alternative SSHd daemon running on port 2222
[15:42] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> adam7, As i told you just before, theres nothing there, its empty.
[15:42] <hischild> fde, can you please confirm that he should install ubuntu-desktop?
[15:42] <Psi-Jack> Okay, WHY is NetworkManager destroying my /etc/resolv.conf with it's own that's BLANK?
[15:43] <JC_Denton_> trying to run update-manager but it returns: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/login_1%3a4.0.18.2-1ubuntu2.2_i386.deb: files list file for package `dosfstools' is missing final newline
[15:43] <fde> hischild: yes, I agree it should probably be ubuntu-desktop
[15:43] <hischild> ksbalaji, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:43] <Chiliblue> anyone using a ipod in linux, any app that works like itunes with regard too podcasts, feature I am looking for is tracking whether a popcast has been listen to or not on the ipod
[15:43] <hischild> ksbalaji, tell him to install that. It ought to reinstall the bunch of stuff he removed that probably broke it.
[15:43] <ksbalaji> hischild, can he type sudo install ubuntu-desktop? thanks he is trying now.
[15:43] <hischild> ksbalaji, yes
[15:43] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, better go with the radeon driver then. if the hardware drivers manager cant "say" fglrx, you are out of luck
[15:43] <fde> Chiliblue: I like Banshee personally
[15:43] <dmsuperman> I'm trying to connect to my VPN at work, which is a PPTP VPN. I get this response: http://pastebin.com/d66f1debb
[15:43] <MR_QT> hello
[15:43] <dmsuperman> Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[15:44] <Chiliblue> fde does it track whether a podcast has been listen to on the ipod or not
[15:44] <adam7> CoUrPsE|DeAd: try this: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx; then reboot
[15:44] <adam7> that's all it should take to get it working.
[15:44] <adam7> theoretically :P
[15:45] <Psi-Jack> Anyone?
[15:45] <fde> Chiliblue: I believe so... I don't actually have an ipod... waste of money... but I'm 90% sure I've seen that in release notes
[15:45] <r0ny_> hi is there any apt-get stuf for tomcat extra packages?
[15:45] <Psi-Jack> # Generated by NetworkManager
[15:45] <Psi-Jack> And it's blank beyond that
[15:45] <Psi-Jack> My /etc/resolv.conf
[15:45] <Psi-Jack> Kinda useless that..
[15:45] <Psi-Jack> Especially when I run my own DNS server.
[15:45] <jim_p> r0ny_, you want to install the suggested packages as well?
[15:45] <kajo> EMERGENCY! Gnome on 8.04 is not loading, and not even the failsafe, and I have a paper I have to do in the next few hours--college final. The problem: Power went out twice in ten minutes, and I had started loading the computer when it went out the second time. At the login screen, I sign in, and I get this message in an error window: The GNOME session manager was unable to lock the file '/home/<myusername>/.ICEauthority'. Please report th
[15:45] <kajo> is as a GNOME bug. Sometimes this error may occur if the file's directory is unwritable, you could try logging in via the failsafe session and ensuring that it is."
[15:45] <adam7> Psi-Jack: if you don't change networks and you use ext3 you can chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
[15:45] <Chiliblue> fde, I have acually just lost my ipod...1st gen nano, so I thinking what I should replace it with, I only use it for podcasts while running but ipods handle podcast really well
[15:46] <fde> Psi-Jack: just put in your DNS address above the comments?
[15:46] <Psi-Jack> adam7: That's a band-aid for a problem that Ubuntu's startup routine is doing.
[15:46] <ksbalaji> hischild, my friend says that he has a message saying that it will take hours?! Is it so?
[15:46] <Psi-Jack> fde: Next time NetworkManager starts during init, it'll just replace it again.
[15:46] <ASULutzy> kajo: Write the paper using vim!
[15:46] <adam7> Psi-Jack: yes, it is. Just a suggestion.
[15:46] <ras1> anyone to suggest a firewall?
[15:46] <adam7> kajo: write the paper on whatever computer you're using now, and fix the other one later...
[15:46] <Psi-Jack> adam7: If this were a laptop, that would be a very bad idea. ;)
[15:47] <Arrowhead212002> does anyone here watch the chris pirillo feed?
[15:47] <bazhang> ras1, firestarter
[15:47] <kitche> !iptables | ras1
[15:47] <adam7> Psi-Jack: as I said, if you don't switch networks ;)
[15:47] <kajo> ASULutzy, I wish... formatting is a bitch, though, and it's in .doc for the prof.
[15:47] <ASULutzy> kajo: Or alternatively, when you get to the login screen, you could push ctrl+alt+f1, to switch to tty1, then login, then do sudo rm /home/$USER/.ICEauthority (verify that this is smart, I'm pretty sure that it is)
[15:47] <Psi-Jack> adam7: Do you know a proper means to fix it though?
[15:47] <jim_p> ras1, iptables (linux built in, installed by default, command line only) and fwbuilder (frontend to iptables)
[15:47] <kajo> ASULutzy, does anyone know if ASULutzy 's idea is bad?
[15:47] <adam7> Psi-Jack: nope. you can hunt around in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf ( I  think) and find a prepend-nameservers option, and try that.
[15:47] <hischild> ksbalaji, how many packages did he remove? a few? a dozen? a few hundred? It'll reinstall the packages that he removed. Depending on the network speed and of his pc, it can be fast or can take a bit longer. Hours seems a serious overstatement.
[15:47] <OsamaK> Hi, is it possible to install Ubuntu *on* a USB flash drive? if so, where can I find this 'how-to'?
[15:48] <Psi-Jack> I'm assuming it's something to do with /etc/networks/interfaces
[15:48] <Ax-Ax> could someone help me with installation of usb soundcard?? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=936304
[15:48] <Chiliblue> I might get something else. I have a rio karma some where and a sandisk thing running some open firmware.
[15:48] <Psi-Jack> adam7: I don't use dhclient.
[15:48] <adam7> OsamaK: yep. Plug the USB disk in when running the installer, and pick it as the destination disk
[15:48] <ASULutzy> kajo: Instead of rm'ing it, just mv it
[15:48] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> xorg-driver-fglrx is already the newest version.
[15:48] <fde> Psi-Jack: It shouldn't if you don't take out its generated stuff... but hey, you should ensure network-manager-pptp  and try configuring it via networkmanager... or just disable networkmanager and use your settings
[15:48] <jim_p> kajo, nice idea for me
[15:48] <adam7> Psi-Jack: What do you use?
[15:48] <Psi-Jack> adam7: I'm static on m LAN.
[15:48] <goog> Hey People! My thunderbird suddenly tells me to set up a new user account when I start it. And all my mail accounts seem to be gone. But I can see them in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/... Any ideas why Thunderbird does not see them anymore?
[15:48] <kulhas> does anyone knows how to conf apache auth to use ubunto user/pass ?
[15:48] <ASULutzy> kajo: sudo mv /home/$USER/.ICEauthotity /home/$USER/.ICEauthotity.bak
[15:48] <hischild> Psi-Jack, then make sure you edit your settings accordingly in network tools under adminstration.
[15:48] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> When doing: apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[15:48] <ASULutzy> kajo: Then it'll be reversible :)
[15:48] <adam7> Psi-Jack: hm. (Dumb question ->) did you specify the DNS servers in NM?
[15:48] <Psi-Jack> hischild: Funny thing that..
[15:48] <ksbalaji> hischild,  fde, if it takes a long time - what should he do after that please?- Wait - for your recent query -  he removed SCIM and a few fonts.
[15:48] <fde> Psi-Jack: (you probably already know, but check out update-rc.d for how to disable nm)
[15:48] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, then you have no other way but to use the radeon driver
[15:48] <ras1> thanks
[15:49] <Psi-Jack> adam7, hischild: I manually did use the GUI tools, but it FAILED
[15:49] <hischild> ksbalaji, after that he should reboot.
[15:49] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> the radeon source driver?
[15:49] <Psi-Jack> I had to manually edit /etc/network/interfaces myself.
[15:49] <fde> ksbalaji: Installing ubuntu-desktop should have him set
[15:49] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: did you uninstall the 8.12 fglrx driver yet?
[15:49] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, the opensource radeon driver. its name is radeon
[15:49] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> im trying, :(
[15:49] <hischild> Psi-Jack, why did it fail? I have 3 profiles in it, all with totally seperate settings and routes. Switching goes perfect for me.
[15:49] <kajo> ASULutzy, why would deleting it be a good idea at all? What use is that? Is the idea to allow gnome to make a new one? What does this file do?
[15:49] <fde> jim_p: *cough*radeonhd*cough*
[15:49] <Psi-Jack> hischild: Heck if I know. :)
[15:49] <ASULutzy> kajo: Yea, the idea is to let gnome make a new one
[15:49] <Psi-Jack> hischild: When I changed my settings, it was still using DHCP.
[15:49] <hischild> Psi-Jack, what didnt work
[15:50] <Ax-Ax> Can somebody help me with my usb soundcard? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=936304
[15:50] <Psi-Jack> hischild: I set it to manual static settings, and it contiuned to use DHCPO
[15:50] <jim_p> fde, there is also radeonhd but i doubt if his card is supported by it
[15:50] <ASULutzy> kajo: Just move it to a backup file and try to login, if it doesn't work you can always mv it back and be no worse for wear... I'm fairly certain I rm'd it before when I had the same problem and everything was peachy
[15:50] <hischild> Psi-Jack, because you have to enable that profile. Leftclicking the nm-applet gives you options to switch to auto or that profile.
[15:50] <OsamaK> adam7, does it work with FAT32 (I guess all(?) USB are in that format.
[15:50] <fde> Psi-Jack: I don't know how to do it via cli for nm... but in the gui, you can set it up static....
[15:50] <Psi-Jack> hischild: It was enabled.
[15:50] <adam7> OsamaK: no, but you can always reformat the USB
[15:50] <ksbalaji> thanks a lot hischild and fde. This should solve it hopefully. He now says that he completed 10% thanks again and bye.
[15:50] <kajo> ASULutzy, thanks, I'll try that.
[15:50] <adam7> OsamaK: of course, that will delete all the data on it, but...
[15:50] <jim_p> fde, nope, radeonhd supports R500 and up
[15:51] <hischild> Psi-Jack, odd that it didn't work. Still works for me
[15:51] <Psi-Jack> hischild: This problem started when I installed kubuntu-desktop,
[15:51] <kajo> reading up on the file now, trying to figure out exactly what it's use is.
[15:51] <hischild> ksbalaji, no prob.
[15:51] <kajo> will be back to thank you or ask more quesitons soon. ;)
[15:51] <Psi-Jack> The problem may be that Ubuntu's nm-applet and KDE's Network manager applet, don't work well together?
[15:51] <hischild> Psi-Jack, perhaps there's another manager mysteriously managing the connection?
[15:51] <fde> Psi-Jack: Kubuntu has a (rather uglier) interface for what I'm saying too....
[15:51] <OsamaK> adam7, Can I split it, for 2 partitions, for example one 4GB as EXT3 and the other is FAT32?
[15:52] <jim_p> Psi-Jack, the poblem is network manager of 8.10. its a piece of junk. the 8.04 one was a lot better
[15:52] <adam7> OsamaK: yeah, you can if you want.
[15:52] <Psi-Jack> jim_p: Yeah! No joke..
[15:52] <fde> hischild: its networkmanager ... he probably doesn't have -pptp installed... or he is trying to make system stuff compete with automation... which in todays linux doesn't work
[15:52] <hischild> jim_p, Psi-Jack, so downgrade it :)
[15:52] <adam7> jim_p: it was supposed to better I thought ;)
[15:52] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> jim_p, i get these from ati.com?
[15:52] <jim_p> Psi-Jack, not the gnome or kde frontend , the backend is what i mean
[15:52] <Psi-Jack> hischild: Heh, does 8.04 have KDE 4.1? :p
[15:52] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, what these?
[15:52] <kajo>  how does one make hidden files shown in terminal?
[15:52] <fde> Psi-Jack: yes
[15:52] <OsamaK> adam7, Well, nice. I'm going to do that right now :)
[15:53] <fde> kajo: ls -a
[15:53] <jim_p> Psi-Jack, yea it does
[15:53] <hischild> Psi-Jack, i'm not talking about versions of kde or going back to 8.04. But there's quite likely a way to downgrade THAT package only
[15:53] <latus> in the /etc/cron.allow is the user name only??
[15:53] <fde> latus: what exactly are you trying to do?
[15:53] <Psi-Jack> jim_p: Hmmm.. In supported repos?
[15:53] <adam7> kajo: have you run fsck on that disk after the power crash?
[15:53] <OsamaK> adam7, btw, what's the minimum size of a USB?
[15:54] <jim_p> hischild, Psi-Jack i abandon the nm conversation because i dont know what you want to do
[15:54] <adam7> OsamaK: the minimum size of a USB? can you rephrase that?
[15:54] <jim_p> Psi-Jack, ???
[15:54] <latus> fde: I got crontab installed, but the scripts does not work....
[15:54] <Psi-Jack> jim_p: 8.04 has KDE 4.1.3 in supported standard repos (not unsupported extras)?
[15:54] <OsamaK> adam7, I mean what's the size needed by Ubuntu to be installed on a USB.
[15:54] <jim_p> Psi-Jack, dunno :(
[15:54] <onetinsoldier> he probably means minimum size of a usb that you can install ubuntu onto
[15:54] <adam7> OsamaK: ah, that I don't know. I would guess ~4GB, but it could be as small as 1GB
[15:54] <fightskillz> hey how do i install a .bin file?
[15:55] <fde> Psi-Jack: networkmanager - well the gui - is still kde3... only problem might be build env... but you can grab the source and build it in your current dist
[15:55] <jim_p> fightskillz, sudo sh file.bin
[15:55] <adam7> fightskillz: are you sure there is no deb for your program?
[15:55] <OsamaK> adam7, well. OK. thanks
[15:55] <hischild> jim_p, you said the nm-applet was better in 8.04, hence my suggestion to downgrade that package then back to whichever version 8.04 had.
[15:55] <fightskillz> it's for adobe air
[15:55] <onetinsoldier> fightskillz: you move or copy it to /usr/local/bin
[15:55] <kajo> adam7, I haven't run anything after the crash, that was just a few minutes ago.
[15:55] <jim_p> hischild, and how will he do it if he has intrepid repos?
[15:55] <Psi-Jack> hischild: Oh, I don't use nm-applet, or Gnome for that matter. I use Ubuntu with KDE 4.1 ;)
[15:55] <fde> Psi-Jack: Personally I find latest nm to be a joy, most report that it works much better with VPN... if you have networkmanager -pptp installed
[15:55] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, are you there?
[15:56] <kajo> what would fsck do to it @ Adam-
[15:56] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> im here.
[15:56] <Psi-Jack> hischild: Just ever SINCE I added kubuntu-desktop, the network-manager crap stopped working on it's own.
[15:56] <kajo> @adam7
[15:56] <hischild> Psi-Jack, ok =)
[15:56] <hischild> jim_p, find out which version it has, install that version?
[15:56] <Psi-Jack> fde: What about in my case, where I don't use Gnome, or nm-applet, but use, instead, KDE from kubuntu-desktop?
[15:56] <adam7> kajo: well, the error said something about not having permissions, and sometimes when the disk is corrupted it will mount readonly, hence my suggestion to fsck it so it will not be corrupted and hence will be mounted read/write
[15:57] <Psi-Jack> ** (nm-applet:14629): WARNING **: <WARN>  applet_dbus_manager_start_service(): Could not acquire the NetworkManagerUserSettings service as it is already taken. Return: 3
[15:57] <fde> Psi-Jack: umm... I haven't once stated nm-applet ... knetworkmanager has the same options for the most part   :/
[15:57] <kajo> ASULutzy, that seems to have worked just fine. Thank you kindly.
[15:57] <Psi-Jack> fde: True... But they don't actually work. For me, I had to manually edit /etc/network/interfaces to get it working at all proper.
[15:57] <ASULutzy> kajo: Yea, running fsck isn't a bad idea either, you can force an fsck on your next reboot by doing shutdown -rF I believe (after you write your paper, this might be a good idea since you had multiple unclean shutdowns)
[15:57] <jim_p> hischild, 0.6.whatever
[15:58] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> jim_p, Yes, im here.
[15:58] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, did you install radeon?
[15:58] <jim_p> the driver
[15:58] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Naw, still trying to find source.
[15:58] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> or do i use apt-get ?
[15:58] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, sudo apt-get install  xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[15:58] <fde> Psi-Jack: can look into resolvconf ... it gets you a /etc/resolv.d dir where you can put the other DNS stuff... might avoid NM touching it
[15:59] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> doh, thanks.
[15:59] <kajo> ASULutzy, is fsck like a harddrive error analysis? I've heard this program referenced jokingly before, but don't remember what it does. :P
[15:59] <fde> Actually, I think it'd be resolv.conf.d but yeah
[15:59] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, you will have to change the relevant Driver part in xorg.conf
[15:59] <Psi-Jack> fde: resolvconf isn't even installed.
[15:59] <lit3l> hi, i'm searching for electronic conception tools on linux, if possible whith example and stuff, if you have an idea ... :D thx
[15:59] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> xserver-xorg-video-radeon is already the newest version.
[15:59] <adam7> kajo: it stands for FileSystem ChecK
[15:59] <genii> kajo: It's like Windows' "scandisk"
[16:00] <kajo> adam7, thanks.
[16:00] <Psi-Jack> fde: Right now, it's literally NetworkManager fracking things up on it's own.
[16:00] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: do you still have the   xorg.conf-vesa   file?
[16:00] <kajo> Hey, genii, long time no see. ;)
[16:00] <jim_p> Psi-Jack, you dont have /etc/resolv.conf ?!?!?!?
[16:00] <ASULutzy> Yea, it checks for errors on the filesystem. The easiest way now that I look it up, is to do sudo touch /forcefsck
[16:00] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> onetinsoldier, yes.
[16:00] <ASULutzy> kajo: That'll apparently force an fsck on next boot
[16:00] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, then make the change in xorg.conf
[16:00] <kajo> well, I've got to get on that paper. I'll do that after I'm done. Thanks again everyone.
[16:00] <genii> kajo: I'm always around :)
[16:00] <Psi-Jack> jim_p: Yes, I do. I DON'T have resolvconf, a SEPERATE package installed to auto-manage it, NetworkManager is doing that.
[16:00] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: use that and put the line in it to for the radeon driver
[16:00] <fde> Psi-Jack: yes, so my suggestion would hopefully allow NM to ignore that file, and thus your custom config
[16:00] <Psi-Jack> resolvconf, the program/package, was a pain in the arse.
[16:00] <rmorales1_> hello people
[16:01] <rmorales1_> i am new here
[16:01] <jim_p> Psi-Jack, well that mn will send me to the psychiatrist, i abort
[16:01] <Psi-Jack> fde: Personally: I'd rather fix it, than bandaid it.
[16:01] <jim_p> *nm
[16:01] <rmorales1_> i wanna know all about ubuntu
[16:01] <adam7> !wiki | rmorales1_
[16:01] <aleX-xx> rmorales1_: welcome and try to respect rules here
[16:01] <jim_p> rmorales1_, like what?
[16:01] <rmorales1_> i wanna install office 2007
[16:01] <rmorales1_> whit wine
[16:02] <rmorales1_> but i cant
[16:02] <jim_p> rmorales1_, good luck then
[16:02] <adam7> !wine | rmorales1_
[16:02] <rmorales1_> what shoul i do?
[16:02] <arimakun> saludos ..
[16:02] <arimakun> alguien habla español o necesito entrar al foro en español
[16:02] <fightskillz>  after sudo sh file.bin I get: Syntax error: "(" unexpected     btw i'm an idiot
[16:02] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, done?
[16:02] <ASULutzy> Does office 2007 work in wine? I didn't think it did... That's like, half the reason I still have a Windows VM
[16:02] <hischild> !es | arimakun
[16:02] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yeah.
[16:02] <rmorales1_> hola
[16:02] <fde> Psi-Jack: personally, I'd rather just stop NM from starting in the first place
[16:03] <Psi-Jack> fde: It comes in handy, when I actually need to make a live change. ;)
[16:03] <fde> ASULutzy: try it? But I'm fairly sure only up to 2003 is currently tested
[16:03] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> can i just restart X to check if its working?
[16:03] <jim_p> fightskillz, what is that .bin file anyway?    at a terminal                file something.bin
[16:03] <rmorales1_> hello people
[16:03] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, yea
[16:03] <rmorales1_> what is irc?
[16:03] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> logout, ctrl+alt+F1, invoke-rc.d gdm stop/start ?
[16:03] <Psi-Jack> fde: I hated gnome's nm-applet, though. A WIRED connection always notifying I'm connected everytime I login with a popup balloon == unhappy me.
[16:04] <rmorales1_> i dont understand about it
[16:04] <adam7> Azzmodan: it does work in Wine, but equations don't work properly.
[16:04] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, ctrl + alt +backspace
[16:04] <ASULutzy> rmorales1_: Internet Relay Chat, what don't you understand?
[16:04] <fightskillz> jim_p: sudo sh /home/yoav/Desktop/AdobeAIRInstaller.bin
[16:04] <fde> Psi-Jack: I never logout unless I am rebooting, so it never bothers me  :P
[16:04] <Psi-Jack> fde: I have a wife and 2 kids. ;)
[16:04] <rmorales1_> what do you do here?
[16:04] <jim_p> fightskillz, does abode air have a linux version??
[16:05] <fde> Psi-Jack: Have you at least checked to ensure network-manager-pptp is installed? Just to humor me? You've never confirmed nor denied  :/
[16:05] <ASULutzy> fightskillz: just do chmod +x /home/$USER/Desktop/AdobeAIRInstaller.bin && sudo ./home/$USER/Desktop/AdobeAIRInstaller.bin
[16:05] <fde> Psi-Jack: fwiw though, I'd say this is more annoying than a simple popup  ;)
[16:05] <adam7> fightskillz: try sudo bash AdobeAirInstaller.bin
[16:05] <Psi-Jack> fde: It is not installed.
[16:05] <ASULutzy> fightskillz: Get rid of that . before ./home
[16:05] <rmorales1_> clear
[16:06] <fde> Psi-Jack: so you want nm to work with something you haven't installed the plugin for? you think perhaps that could be the problem?
[16:06] <fightskillz> jim_p: they've been working on it.. i believe they're out of beta for linux.. but it's v1.0.. after a while they plan on releasing it on the same schedule as other OSs
[16:06] <latus> anyone has cron working for a normal user??
[16:06] <Psi-Jack> fde: NetworkManager itself, /is/ installed.
[16:07] <Psi-Jack> fde: What's the -pptp portion for?
[16:07] <fde> Psi-Jack: great, and I believe you said it works in general?
[16:07] <fde> Psi-Jack: VPN
[16:07] <Psi-Jack> fde: I don't need or want VPN
[16:07] <Psi-Jack> fde: Just STATIC IP assignment. Nothing fancy.
[16:08] <kitche> fde: you mixed Psi-Jack up with someone else
[16:08] <fightskillz> tried everything, getting errors like 'cannot open' and 'cannot execute' ... maybe i should try downloading it again?
[16:08] <rmorales1_> anyone know about java?
[16:08] <Psi-Jack> Ubuntu defaults to use DHCP. I don't want my router giving me an IP address. ;)
[16:08] <kitche> rmorales1_: what do you need to know? about it
[16:08] <rmorales1_> a channell
[16:08] <ASULutzy> rmorales1_: /join #java
[16:08] <rmorales1_> thanks
[16:09] <SillyZ> morning
[16:09] <fde> Psi-Jack: ugh... right click on knetworkmanager applet and Edit Connection... set it to be static... apologies for my mistake
[16:09] <rmorales1_>  it doesnt anything
[16:09] <Psi-Jack> fde: Heh. I did. THAT is what is broken. BOTH knetworkmanager /and/ nm-applet
[16:10] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Nope, same thing.
[16:10] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Where is xserver log file?
[16:10] <SillyZ> have a quick question, how in the hell do i set eth0 not to be DHCP ( gnome ) and be static ip addressing.... seems everytimg I set it via the net-applet, reboot its back to DHCP
[16:10] <rmorales1_> i wanna find a java channell
[16:10] <Psi-Jack> fde: Ever since I installed kubuntu-desktop, NetworkManager applets for Gnome and KDE have since failed to function at all, besides telling me my wired connection is connected/active.
[16:10] <fde> Psi-Jack: I know for a fact that nm-applet isn't broken for that... its how my other Ubuntu machine is configured...
[16:10] <rmorales1_> anyone know about java channell?
[16:10] <Psi-Jack> fde: That break, is what I am trying to repair, instead of band-aid :)
[16:11] <fde> Psi-Jack: maybe knetworkmanager and nm-applet settings are conflicting somewhere?
[16:11] <jim_p> CoUrPsE|DeAd, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:11] <rmorales1_> people help me please
[16:11] <Psi-Jack> fde: They both use NetworkManager, do they not?
[16:11] <jim_p> rmorales1_, #java maybe??
[16:11] <rmorales1_> no
[16:11] <Psi-Jack> fde: So I would presume to think they use the same settings. ;)
[16:11] <rmorales1_> it doesn function
[16:11] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: hi, i want to let you know, that all of that Ctrl+Alt+F1 and invoke-rc.d suff was for shutting X down. if all you need todo is restart X there's and easier way... want to hear it?
[16:11] <fde> Psi-Jack: you were the person that linked to pon and poff stuff though right? that is still pptp
[16:12] <Psi-Jack> fde: No....
[16:12] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> the ctrl+alt backspace?
[16:12] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: yes... ok, you know it then
[16:12] <SillyZ> Psi-Jack: any hope to fix that nm-applet ? or should I just plan on setting it manually in /etc/network ?
[16:12] <Psi-Jack> fde: I have cable. I use a router. I have nothing to do with anything but LAN on this.
[16:12] <SlimeyPete> rmorales1_: you need to be identified with nickserv before you can use ##java
[16:12] <fde> Psi-Jack: well, except they store there config stuff in your home folder... heh... notice you've never had to enter a passwork to configure them?  ;)
[16:12] <rmorales1_> but
[16:12] <rmorales1_> how can i do it?
[16:12] <rmorales1_> i am new here
[16:12] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Then i get my error when i boot X, and when i choose use low grpahics, it overwrites my log.
[16:12] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: the log file is,   /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:13] <Pici> rmorales1_: /msg nickserv help register , more help can be found in #freenode
[16:13] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Thats why theres no error in there.
[16:13] <SlimeyPete> rmorales1_: type "/msg nickserv help register" for registration instructions
[16:13] <fde> Psi-Jack: word* and other than your desktop key (which is confusing cuz they're all the same password by default in Ubuntu)
[16:13] <rmorales1_> thanks
[16:13] <kitche> CoUrPsE|DeAd: no it doesn't overwrite your log it just moves it and renames it
[16:13] <r0ny_> hi how can i know which version of tomcat is used
[16:13] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yep.
[16:13] <SlimeyPete> rmorales1_: then "/msg nickserv help identify" for identification instructions
[16:13] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> *.old is what we should of been looking at.,
[16:13] <SlimeyPete> rmorales1_: if you want further help try asking in #freenode
[16:13] <fde> !info tomcat
[16:13] <fde> !tomcat5
[16:13] <nexus23> Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied.   cannot mount volume : a security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see the message bus configuration file ( rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal"
[16:13] <Psi-Jack> Yes it does. :)
[16:14] <fde> !botslap
[16:14] <fde> :(
[16:14] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Unable to read from: /var/log/Xord.0.log.old
[16:14] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> stoopid typo.
[16:14] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> http://pastebin.com/f78009fb7
[16:14] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Right.
[16:14] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> that is the log file we need to be reading.
[16:14] <FloodBot1> CoUrPsE|DeAd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:14] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Hummm k, :(
[16:15] <proglottis> has anyone had any luck using the "Shared to other computers" method in network manager? i'm trying to work it out for a quick temp router from wired to wireless
[16:15] <cdavis> What ftp client can I use on intrepid that supports tls? gftp doesn't seem to work with tls
[16:16] <Psi-Jack> Okay, I'm going to unhijack /etc/network/interfaces, and see if I can delve into this and fix it once and for all.
[16:16] <Psi-Jack> BRB, rebooting.
[16:16] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: that pastebin has the error in it
[16:16] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yep.
[16:17] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> thats Xorg.0.log.old
[16:17] <Ax-Ax> "Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel sources (default is /usr/src/linux)." what should i do?
[16:17] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: that's a nasty error to get
[16:17] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> when selecting low graphic mode, it renames to .old and the .log was always going to be good.
[16:17] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> onetinsoldier, Please dont say that, :(
[16:17] <ZeiP> My Acer Aspire 3100 laptop doesn't co-operate with any USB devices that I've tried so far. They all throw the error ”Cannot enable port x. Maybe the USB cable is bad?”. Using Ubuntu 8.04.
[16:18] <fde> cdavis: there are a couple... filezilla being the most famous... also kasablanca apparently, and also kftpgrabber
[16:18] <fde> cdavis: if you're using gnome, I'd recommend filezilla though
[16:18] <fde> (less deps)
[16:18] <Ax-Ax> "Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel sources (default is /usr/src/linux)." what should i do? help plx :(
[16:19] <cdavis> fde, Thanks, I will install filezilla
[16:19] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: you need to install the mesa libs
[16:20] <_doug> hi there , need advice ..
[16:20] <fde> Ax-Ax: what are you trying to do?
[16:20] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Um. What are they called in apt-get ?
[16:20] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: you need to install the mesa libs. if they show as already being installed... reinstall them
[16:20] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> I best start the download then get some sleep before my 8 month old bubs awakes.
[16:20] <Ax-Ax> fde: install alsa 1.0.18
[16:20] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: let me find them
[16:20] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Thanks.
[16:20] <Ax-Ax> fde: to get my soundcard to work
[16:21] <termos> how can i get ubuntu (eee) to suspend when i close the lid? it worked on gnome earlier but i changed WM.
[16:21] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok.. roger that. get some sleep. just remember, that tomorrow..  install(or reinstall) the Mesa Libraries
[16:21] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Um, do you need drivers or do you need codecs?
[16:21] <garrett88> hey, can anyone tell me how to fix my splash screen? the progress bar stops moving, and the only way it moves is if I hold down my space bar, then it contiunes to load
[16:21] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yeah, i'll start the install now.
[16:21] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> so that it downloads while im asleep, :)
[16:21] <ASULutzy> garrett88: You should boot without the splash and see what's holding it up
[16:21] <fde> Ax-Ax: Go ahead and install 'kernel-package' (which isn't needed, but will bring in all the debs you want) ... then try again
[16:22] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok.. you're welcome and take care! g'night
[16:22] <Ax-Ax> fde: ok i'll try
[16:22] <garrett88> ASULutzy: how do i do that?
[16:22] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> ty.
[16:22] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: are you still wanting me to find them?
[16:22] <fde> s/debs/deps/ ... although its basically the same in this case... heh
[16:22] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yes.
[16:23] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok.. it's hard for me to keep up with your messages.. you must be a fast typist
[16:23] <Trinitrogen> I've loaded CompvizConfig Settings Manager so I could have the cool effects, what do I do next to change things like the color of my windows and stuff?
[16:23] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> lol.
[16:23] <karn`> does anyone know if WUSB600N will work in breezy badger?
[16:23] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> gotta be in channels this size.
[16:23] <Ax-Ax> fde: no, same error again
[16:24] <pckchem> Trinitrogen: Nice name, first of all. Second, you usually change window colors with metacity. Go to System->Preferences->Appearance
[16:24] <augie> can someone help me with flash plugin
[16:25] <augie> there was an update this morning but it wouldn't install
[16:25] <pckchem> Trinitrogen: Then click customize to pick a theme and change colors of things. Google "gnomelook" for some cool additions.
[16:25] <augie> it just stops at ok
[16:25] <Trinitrogen> pckchem: Thanks!
[16:25] <fde> Ax-Ax: blah... well then type: aptitude install kernel-source-`uname -r`   (those are from above the tab key, not by the enter key)
[16:25] <dmartinez> un canal en español
[16:25] <Pici> !es | dmartinez
[16:25] <pckchem> Trinitrogen: CCSM is more for the flashier stuff like desktop cubes and animation effects
[16:26] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: apt-get install mesa-common-dev mesa-utils libglu1-mesa-dev libglu1-mesa libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-dev
[16:26] <fde> Ax-Ax: just to limit confusion... go ahead and 'sudo aptitude install kernel-source-$(uname -r) ...
[16:26] <Ax-Ax> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "kernel-source-2.6.24-19-generic
[16:26] <fde> Ax-Ax: it'll accomplish the exact same thing
[16:26] <Trinitrogen> pckchem: I wanted the cube more than anything. Im at gnome-look.org, what app should I download themes for? Compiz?
[16:27] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Awesome thanks onetinsoldier, cya later on m8, thanks heaps for the help.
[16:27] <termos> how can i get ubuntu (eee) to suspend when i close the lid? it worked on gnome earlier but i changed WM.
[16:27] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> And the rest of ya that have helped me so far, :)
[16:27] <fde> Lame... linux-source-2.6.24
[16:27] <fde> Lame... linux-source-2.6.24  Ax-Ax
[16:27] <Ax-Ax> fde, indeed the same: "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "kernel-source-2.6.24-19-generic"
[16:27] <Ax-Ax> oh
[16:27] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: you're welcome... and remember, if any of those are reported already being the lastest version, reinstall them with    apt-get install --reinstall
[16:28] <Ax-Ax> fde: ...
[16:28] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Ahh k.
[16:28] <Ax-Ax> fde: No candidate version found for linux-source-2.6.24
[16:28] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok... take care. see ya and good luck!
[16:28] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Well do, coz a few of them did say installed already.
[16:28] <hischild> fde, linux-headers, not linux-source ... iir
[16:28] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd:   apt-get install --reinstall
[16:28] <fde> Ax-Ax: apt-cache search kernel-source ?
[16:28] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd:   apt-get install --reinstall <package_names>
[16:28] <hischild> !find linux-headers
[16:29] <fde> hischild: thing is, he's using 2.6.24 ... which won't exist...
[16:29] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Awesome, all set.
[16:29] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok! :-)
[16:29] <Psi-Jack> Okay.
[16:29] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Nite, :
[16:29] <hischild> fde, why is he using such an 'old' kernel then?
[16:29] <Psi-Jack> Well, I got nm-applet to WORK, but knetworkmanager is my problem. LOL
[16:29] <fde> Ax-Ax: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade && reboot ... when you get back, try again  :P
[16:29] <fde> hischild: cuz he hasn't updated
[16:29] <onetinsoldier> CoUrPsE|DeAd: nighty nite
[16:30] <k21> how to  stop apt-get as and when needed
[16:30] <fde> hischild: so if he pulled in linux-source alone, it'd be a mismatch for kernel ver
[16:30] <Psi-Jack> fde: Curious. Does NetworkManager even care about servers running on the system at all? Cause it seems not to reload them when the network comes up or changes.
[16:30] <fde> k21: ctrl+x
[16:30] <fde> k21: ctrl+c
[16:30] <k21> ok
[16:30] <hischild> fde, good point there.
[16:31] <karn`> does anybody know if WUSB600N will work in Breezy Badger?
[16:31] <Ax-Ax> fde: kay
[16:31] <fde> Ax-Ax: you rebooted already?
[16:31] <Ax-Ax> no
[16:31] <k21> how to stop package installer, when it is not responding
[16:31] <fde> Ax-Ax: you'll need to reboot to use the new kernel that upgrading would have gotten you
[16:31] <Pici> karn`: Breezy Badger is no longer supported, sorry.
[16:32] <fde> k21: I said, ctrl+c
[16:32] <Slart> k21: ctrl+c if you're on a command line..
[16:32] <k21> no gui mode
[16:32] <Slart> k21: I guess you could use xkill if you used synaptic
[16:32] <Ax-Ax> fde i dont see any kernel stuff in there but whatever
[16:32] <onetinsoldier> k21:   ps -AH.... find it's process number... then, as root,   kill -9 <proccess_num>
[16:32] <Funnyplay> hi,
[16:32] <karn`> pici: what else could i install on a laptop with 400mhz and 98mb of RAM?
[16:32] <fde> Ax-Ax: well, you're not using the newest kernel available to you right now.....
[16:32] <Ax-Ax> firefox, libpulse etc gets upgraded
[16:33] <Funnyplay> I want to install ubuntu on a usb drive
[16:33] <Psi-Jack> Oy.
[16:33] <fde> Funnyplay: pendrivelinux.org
[16:33] <Funnyplay> yes
[16:33] <Slart> karn`: older versions aren't necessarily leaner.. try xubuntu if you want something light
[16:33] <Funnyplay> BUT
[16:33] <Psi-Jack> Fracking thing. Even mysql is fubar. :/
[16:33] <Ax-Ax> fde: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-9-generic
[16:33] <Funnyplay> which method is the best
[16:33] <fde> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/  even
[16:33] <Funnyplay> live
[16:33] <Funnyplay> or persistent
[16:33] <karn`> Slart: is there any versions that will support WUSB600N?
[16:33] <termos> what do i need to do to get gnome-power-manager to run outside of gnome?
[16:34] <fde> I guess Ax-Ax just hadn't updated kernel... w/e
[16:34] <Slart> karn`: oh.. I have no idea.. what is it? do you know if there is a driver?
[16:34] <Funnyplay> ??
[16:34] <Rabbitbunny> where does Mozilla download files to on vanilla 8.10?
[16:34] <Slart> termos: eh.. gnome I guess =).. I doubt you'll get it to run without gnome
[16:35] <fde> Funnyplay: persisitant... keeps whatever you change
[16:35] <Pici> Funnyplay: It depends what you want.
[16:35] <karn`> Slart: a linksys wireless usb receiver for wifi, its suppose to work in hardy and ibex
[16:35] <kkady32> !java
[16:35] <Kope> quick question... I just installed (yeah me!) is someplace I can find comprehensive links to additional software packages? Like WINE, Eclipse, etc., or do I just have to compile them myself?
[16:35] <Slart> karn`: then go with the latest xubuntu.. it comes in the same flavours as general ubuntu
[16:35] <Rabbitbunny> Kope: Applications > Add/Remove
[16:35] <fde> Kope: Applications > Add/Remove Software
[16:35] <Kope> doh ... ok .. l should learn to read :)
[16:35] <kkuno> hi
[16:36] <Kope> ty
[16:36] <genii> Rabbitbunny: I'm pretty sure /home/your-username
[16:36] <onetinsoldier> Rabbitbunny: i thought on your Desktop... check home dir too. i set Mozilla(firefix) to 'always ask' where to save to
[16:36] <karn`> Slart: where can i download it at?
[16:36] <Slart> karn`: !xubuntu
[16:36] <Slart> oops
[16:36] <Slart> !xubuntu
[16:36] <vazdyk> hi, i installed Ubuntu 5 minutes ago. I am a newbie, so i need help in configuring. The first thing i observed, is that it doesn't show me floppy. What to do?
[16:36] <kkuno> I have an ati card, I wonder which video driver does the livecd use by default?
[16:36] <fde> Slart: can just use > username or | username ... less noise in channel
[16:37] <Slart> fde: of course
[16:37] <Pici> vazdyk: Do you have a floppy disk in the drive?
[16:37] <fde> vazdyk: Applications > Accessories > Terminal ... type at the prompt: mount | grep fd0 ... tell me if it returns anything
[16:38] <onetinsoldier> vazdyk: look at the menu bar... 'Places'
[16:38] <karn`> Slart: what has less requirements, hardy or ibex?
[16:38] <vazdyk> yes, i have a floppy disk in. The problem is that it don't see device.
[16:38] <Mr_Brooks> i've installed truecrypt but when i type command "truecrypt" doesnt work. i could only open it via menu
[16:38] <Slart> karn`: I'm not sure.. I would say it's about the same
[16:38] <fde> karn`: actually, ibex would, as there will be more bugs and stuff fixed
[16:39] <onetinsoldier> vazdyk: if the floppy doesn't show in Places, then try Places --> Computer
[16:39] <vazdyk> i wrote, it don't returns anything
[16:39] <vazdyk> i tryed, there isn't
[16:39] <karn`> fde: so it would be better to get xubuntu ibex?
[16:39] <fde> karn`: so less mem leaks and the like... and more work on bringing down gnomes resources
[16:39] <Psi-Jack> Okay, here's my problem it seems:
[16:39] <onetinsoldier> vazdyk: ok... you know how to get to a command line? (terminal)
[16:39] <Pici> !requirements-#xubuntu > karn`
[16:40] <Slart> karn`: I don't know if it means anything but it feels like gnome is a little bit snappier in intrepid
[16:40] <vazdyk> yes, i know
[16:40] <NiSoOo> hey, howcan i fix that:
[16:40] <NiSoOo> configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[16:40] <fde> karn`: XFce doesn't have as many people - if anyone - working on the little things that make it less resource intensive... you're probably better off with Gnome if those are your choices
[16:40] <NiSoOo> when running ./configure
[16:40] <NiSoOo> :S
[16:40] <Slart> NiSoOo: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[16:40] <kkuno> I have an ati card, I wonder which video driver does the livecd use by default?
[16:40] <Pici> !enter > NiSoOo
[16:40] <onetinsoldier> vazdyk: in terminal command line try --> sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[16:40] <Psi-Jack> nm-applet, works just fine, even loaded in KDE.. I did afterall, install Ubuntu 8.10, not Kubuntu 8.10.  kdenetworkmanager, does show I'm connected, it can disconnect my network, but when I add or change network configs, nothing's done about them. It seems to simply just keep whatever nm-applet setup and nothing else.
[16:40] <Slart> NiSoOo: build-essential is a meta package that installs compiler, linker etc and sets up some general stuff required for compiling
[16:41] <Pici> kkuno: It should try to use the open source ati driver by default. You can install the proprietary one once you do a real intallation.
[16:41] <Slart> kkuno: vesa or the open source radeon I think
[16:41] <NiSoOo> ok thanks Slart
[16:41] <kkuno> mmm ok
[16:41] <NiSoOo> ubottu: please resend it
mount: mount point /media/floppy does not exist
[16:41] <kkuno> Pici, and if I use safe mode it uses vesa, right?
[16:42] <Pici> kkuno: I beloeve so
[16:42] <kkuno> ok
[16:42] <Slart> !enter > NiSoOo
[16:42] <russo> hi guys i had a quick question, i'm trying to start virtualbox with a higher priority than 0, is there any easy way to just change the command that is used to start in the panel? I mean if i do sudo nice it starts up as root, and i don't really want that.
[16:42] <onetinsoldier> vazdyk: ok --> cd /media --> sudo mkdir floppy
[16:42] <Psi-Jack> fde: Do you have any idea how to get nm-applet and knetworkmanager to play nicely with each other?
[16:43] <onetinsoldier> vazdyk: then --> sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[16:43] <Slart> NiSoOo: ubottu is just a bot.. he's nice and all, even smells good in the morning.. but his conversational skills aren't up to standards yet =)
[16:43] <fde> Psi-Jack: no, I never have installed KDE and Gnome on the same system
[16:43] <kkuno> Psi-Jack, why do you have to use both?
[16:43] <NiSoOo> lol :D
mount: special device /dev/fd0 does not exist
[16:43] <beastax> hiya, is there a method built into ubuntu / linux to set certain applications to use alsa over oss, or is that only dealt with by individual application config files
[16:43] <beastax> ?
[16:43] <Psi-Jack> kkuno: Namely because I login to both Gnome AND KDE. Personally I use KDE, but others like Gnome better. Multi-user system.
[16:43] <fde> Psi-Jack: If nm-applet works in both places... change your kde session to include it rather than knetworkmanager imo
[16:43] <kkuno> you can't run nm-applet and knetworkmanager at the same time
[16:44] <Psi-Jack> fde: But.. I hate nm-applet. It's so ugly. ;)
[16:44] <fde> kkuno: he's not, but they're conflicting in his configs
[16:44] <onetinsoldier> vazdyk: ok.. i don't know then, sorry
[16:44] <feydr> I have a hourly cronjob in /etc/cron.hourly that run-parts executes but it doesn't seem to do anything; I can put it in my crontab and run it fine w/ '* * * * *' however.. what gives?
[16:44] <Psi-Jack> fde: And that doesn't fix the problem, still, of course, just a band-aid.
[16:44] <Slart> beastax: there's "aoss" that lets you use some kind of alsa wrapper around an application that only handles oss.. if that's what you mean
[16:44] <vazdyk> in older version, as i remember, it worked
[16:44] <kkuno> yeah because kde starts the gnome autostarted apps
[16:44] <onetinsoldier> vazdyk: sounds like you;d have to make some udev ruleand i'm not familiar with doing that
[16:45] <Slart> beastax: but when it comes to the application itself I think the author has to use oss, alsa, pulseaudio or whatever when writing the program.. it isn't something you can just add on later from the os
[16:45] <onetinsoldier> vazdyk: sounds like you'd have to make some udev rule and i'm not familiar with doing that
[16:45] <beastax> Slart, my issue is that i need to make an app use alsa *instead* of oss, because i have an app that wont work with alsa or aoss that i need to run at the same time
[16:45] <fde> Psi-Jack: file a bug at bugs.kde.org ... its not something you'll fix without editing the code imo
[16:45] <keres> onetinsoldier: later today, could you compile something for me and then try to see why it crashes?
[16:45] <beastax> Slart, ok thanks ill delve deeper into urbanterrors config then
[16:45] <vazdyk> ok, thanks :-)
[16:46] <chills> hey guys iam trying to install rutilt but it says no package found
[16:46] <stwange> I'm having serious trouble installing ubuntu on my sata drives, they just aren't detected. It can, however, detect an external USB SATA Drive - if I installed it on that, then created the same partitions on the SATA drives and dd'd it across, could that possibly work?
[16:46] <karn`> Pici, Slart, fde, ubottu, thanks alot guys, ill be back later
[16:46] <chills> apt-get install rutilt
[16:46] <Slart> beastax: or read up on aoss and alsa dmix stuff.. you might be able to fix it that way
[16:46] <Slart> karn`: you're welcome
[16:46] <chills> iam 8.10
[16:46] <onetinsoldier> keres: it's highly unlikely that i could figure why something crashes. i am willing to try. however, i'm not sure how much longer i'll be around today. probably not much longer
[16:47] <hischild> !find rutilt
[16:47] <hischild> !info rutilt
[16:47] <beastax> Slart, will do, theres a lot to learn about this and then theres the issue of learning how to configure urban terror
[16:47] <onetinsoldier> keres: what is it anyway?
[16:47] <keres> onetinsoldier: ok. whenenenver you have a moment within today or tommorow :)
[16:48] <Slart> beastax: let me guess... you want to run.. teamspeak with urban terror?
[16:48] <beastax> Slart, hehe yes indeed
[16:48] <chills> hischild, yea but why wont it insdtall on mine ?
[16:48] <keres> onetinsoldier: i got radiant to work functionally without debug mode, but when i turn the camera view to see the large portion of my map, it crashes. no errors or nothing
[16:48] <onetinsoldier> keres: tomorrow might be better, as actually, i'm leaving now.
[16:48] <Slart> beastax: I used to run enemy territory with teamspeak.. I had to disable the microphone in ET so teamspeak could use it.. you can have my script if you want
[16:48] <bshak1> I have my web server set up where it works in my network and on other people's computers outside the network.  However, I can only access my site without http or www.  If I use www. or http then my site will not load.  What is the issue here and how do I fix it?
[16:49] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok.. roger that. i will try it out tomorrow
[16:49] <hischild> chiliblue, sudo aptitude update && aptitude search rutilt give you a result?
[16:49] <beastax> Slart, yes please, that may well be a great help
[16:49] <beastax> is ET q3 based as well?
[16:49] <hischild> chiliblue, wrong nick, sorry
[16:49] <hischild> chills, see above ^
[16:49] <chiliblue> lol
[16:49] <chiliblue> np
[16:49] <onetinsoldier> keres:  bye bye for now!
[16:49] <Slart> beastax: here's one line.. echo "et.x86 0 0 disable" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/oss
[16:49] <chills> there is something wrong with my apt
[16:49] <hischild> chills, what's wrong with your apt then
[16:49] <chills> riting extended state information... Done
[16:49] <chills> Ign cdrom://Ubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Release i386 (20081029.5) intrepid Release.gpg
[16:50] <NiSoOo> configure: error: Cannot find ssl libraries - that how can i fix ?
[16:50] <chills> repeats alot of these msgs
[16:50] <genii> bshak1: PErhaps enquire in #ubuntu-server channel
[16:50] <Slart> beastax: it tells oss that the process named et.x86 aren't allowed to use the device /pcm0c  that last c stands for capture
[16:50] <ASULutzy> bshak1: http://your.ip.address.here is the only way it's going to work unless you buy a domain name?
[16:50] <chills> Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[16:50] <beastax> Slart, nice one
[16:50] <vazdyk> the floppy isn't the only problem. I don't know why, but it don't recognize my phone(nokia 3500). I saw on forums, that i am not the only who have this problem, but i didn't find any solution. Any idea?
[16:50] <kdNo> ki
[16:50] <mn_> I normally don't work with graphics, so I'm lost.  I'm trying to access the full capability of my graphics card, but I have broken my graphics configuration.  Will someone please help me figure out what drivers I need and how to fix my configuration?
[16:50] <jimcooncat> bshak1: you need to adjust your dns entries
[16:50] <beastax> so i need to run this script in advance of executing urt's binary each time yeah?
[16:50] <Pici> chills: What are you trying to do?
[16:51] <Slart> beastax: I'll just paste the whole thing in pm.. hang on
[16:51] <NiSoOo> configure: error: Cannot find ssl libraries - how can i fix that?
[16:51] <chills> trying to install rutilt
[16:51] <chills> but my apt seems to be broke
[16:51] <beastax> Slart, awesome thanks dude
[16:51] <beastax> im off out to the pub now will have a play with this in the morning
[16:51] <Pici> chills: Can you prefix your responses with my name and pastebin all of the errors that you are getting?
[16:51] <beastax> Slart, many thanks
[16:51] <Slart> beastax: you might have to change the process name.. I don't know what urban terror uses
[16:52] <sipior> NiSoOo: "sudo apt-get install libssl-dev"
[16:52] <chills> sure Pici thanks
[16:52] <Slart> beastax: and of course the sound device.. it might be called something else
[16:52] <NiSoOo> tnx sipior
[16:52] <Slart> beastax: you're welcome.. give me a shout if you run into problems
[16:52] <beastax> Slart, yeah, cheers
[16:53] <chills> Pici, http://rafb.net/p/j8p1bt13.html
[16:53] <bkovacs> When will Cinepaint be put back into the repositories?(H)
[16:53] <parthbakshi> i upgraded from 8.04 -> 8.10
[16:53] <Slart> bkovacs: it's gone?.. do you know why?
[16:53] <parthbakshi> and my gnome startup speed increased to abt > 1 min .how do i reduce it
[16:53] <Pici> chills: Do you want to install off of a CD or from the internet repositories?
[16:54] <chills> just the net
[16:54] <beastax> Slart, so that script directs et audio output to oss yeah?
[16:54] <beastax> but denies capture?
[16:54] <parthbakshi> i upgrded to 8.10 from 8.04 and my gnome startup speed increased to abt > 1 min .how do i reduce it to some acceptable level?
[16:54] <Pici> chills: Are you using Gnome? KDE?
[16:54] <beastax> Slart, but doesnt that stop teamspeak from outputting as well?
[16:54] <chills> Pici, gnome.
[16:54] <Slart> bkovacs: http://www.cinepaint.org/docs/download.html this explains it
[16:55] <Trinitrogen> Any options for formatting a NTFS drive to FAT32?
[16:55] <Slart> beastax: I think I ran enemy territory with "aoss et"
[16:55] <powertool08> Does anyone know where I can get the source for the e1000-ich9 module? Intels website isn't of much use...
[16:55] <beastax> Slart, ok thanks
[16:56] <moza> hello, i would really appreciate if somebody could give me a hint about which packages to install/remove to downgrade from kde4 to kde3
[16:56] <parthbakshi> i upgrded to 8.10 from 8.04 and my gnome startup speed increased to abt > 1 min .how do i reduce it to some acceptable level?
[16:56] <Slart> beastax: the first lines tells alsa/oss that the process should use direct access of some kind.. I don't really remember what that was about..
[16:56] <Pici> chills: Please go to System>Administration>Software Sources and Check all the options on the first tab and uncheck the CDrom options from the second tab and check the security, recommended and unsupported updates on the thrid tab.
[16:56] <ASULutzy> Trinitrogen: You can use fdisk to change partitions on a disk
[16:56] <Kope> another n00b question: what's the consensus best app for managing music library and syncing players? (using an ipod if that matters much)
[16:56] <ardchoille> moza: you're better off in #kubuntu for that advice
[16:56] <Trinitrogen> ASULutzy, thanks
[16:56] <Slart> beastax: the second one disables the microphone for the enemy territory process.. that way teamspeak can use it
[16:56] <Slart> !ipod | Kope
[16:56] <moza> ardchoille, thanks for the chan name
[16:57] <beastax> Slart, cool thanks think i actually understand for once!  im not a total noob but alsa / oss has always flummoxed me!
[16:57] <Kope> thanks ubottu
[16:57] <Slart> beastax: alsa/oss is quite the monster to configure
[16:57] <Solarium> Hello guys
[16:57] <parthbakshi> i upgrded to 8.10 from 8.04 and my gnome startup speed increased to abt > 1 min .how do i reduce it to some acceptable level?
[16:58] <ardchoille> moza: yw
[16:58] <Solarium> How can i make my firefox and pidgin windows transperent ?
[16:58] <chills> Pici, saved my day
[16:58] <chills> that's dude...
[16:58] <chills> thanks*
[16:58] <Pici> chills: sure
[16:58] <Slart> parthbakshi: the usual suggestions involve disabling ipv6, making startup scripts run concurrently (althought that didn't do anything for me).. and disabling stuff you don't need/use
[16:58] <fde> Solarium: You'd have to patch your GTK to allow it, then find a theme that does it also
[16:58] <Slart> Solarium: using compiz (Desktop effects)?
[16:59] <fde> Slart: Not really, Compiz is only the window border
[16:59] <Solarium> fde, can't got vesa driver only due to having sis graphics card
[16:59] <Slart> fde: not really.. compiz can make windows completely transparent
[17:00] <parthbakshi> i have intel 4965 wireless chipset and and 8.10 broke it ,i used to kernel panics every 10 mins so i looked up on the net updated the system with backports kernel now it works fine
[17:00] <Solarium> Well can't use compiz any way .. so any other sugestions maybe ? :P
[17:00] <parthbakshi> however dmesg gives some errors with the wlan drivers
[17:00] <fde> Slart: Its not really the Windows though... heh... hard to explain, but it does a lot in the background with composite to get the effect of it being the window, when really its just an image
[17:00] <gaintsura> how would I dump a list of all installed packages?
[17:00] <fde> Solarium: No, its impossible without hardware support
[17:00] <Slart> Solarium: nope.. without compiz it suddenly gets hard =)
[17:01] <Solarium> fde, Slart got ya thanks guys
[17:01] <parthbakshi> and i think its affecting gnome startup
[17:01] <fde> gaintsura: dpkg --get-selection > somefile  ...
[17:01] <Slart> fde: well.. with composite we're only seeing images anyway.. or did he/she want just the background to be transparent?
[17:01] <Solarium> fde, Slart maybe i can do the "fake" transperent cause i can get my terminal window to look transperent
[17:01] <parthbakshi> where is gtkrc file located
[17:02] <Slart> Solarium: is it really transparent? or is it just showing the wallpaper?
[17:02] <Solarium> Slart, showing wallpaper which will be enought for what i am trying to do
[17:02] <Ravi> I have a 512MB 800MHz. machine and installed Xubuntu on it..I love it..but when I fun firefox, it slows everything down..any tweaks that you can suggest?  Thanks.
[17:02] <Slart> Solarium: ah.. well.. perhaps there are some tricks you can try
[17:03] <Ravi> :%s/fun/run
[17:03] <fde> Slart: But the entire Window is an image... you cant interact with it via compiz... you'd need GTK to support it...
[17:03] <ardchoille> parthbakshi: each gtk theme has its own gtkrc file. Have a look in the folders in /usr/share/themes
[17:03] <Slart> fde: oh.. you want to be able to click the window behind the firefox window through the background? that sounds nasty
[17:03] <fde> Solarium: Neither of the apps you listed have fake transparency support
[17:04] <fde> Slart: not me, Solarium
[17:04] <Psi-Jack> Okay. Here's an issue I have.
[17:04] <cody-somerville> What does this mean?
[17:04] <cody-somerville> Aborted because of invalid compressed format (error=2)
[17:04] <cody-somerville> Kernel Panic: SYNCING VFS, unable to mount root fs on unknown-block.
[17:04] <Psi-Jack> I installed mysql-server stuff, and I imported my own mysqldump'd SQL, but because I did that, debian-sys-maint and mysql have problems now starting and stopping.
[17:04] <Solarium> fde, Okay damn shame :( btw i am not trying to click any windows behind windows
[17:04] <fde> Slart: But no, he wants to be able to have transparency, and still be able to use the program... which isn't possible in GTK apps... for the 10th time
[17:05] <fde> Solarium: yeah, that is Slart's interpretation of what I'm saying, not what I am talking about
[17:05] <Solarium> fde, lol i wish people would just hear what i mean and not what say :)
[17:06] <Solarium> Thanks peeps back to afking
[17:06] <nexus23> Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied.   cannot mount volume : a security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see the message bus configuration file ( rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal"
[17:06] <nexus23> what does that mean?
[17:07] <fde> Slart: I brought up the patches because they exist... but default, its impossible
[17:07] <Zombik2> I have 4x 500GB and 2x 1TB drives in my Ubuntu server, is it a good idea to create 2x RAID 0 out of the 500GB HDDs and then use them to create a RAID 5 over 2x RAID 0 and 2x 1 TB HDDs? If so, what chunk sizes are optimal (Server will be serving big video files)
[17:07] <fde> nexus23: Its a dbus message referring to your lack of rights to mount a volume...
[17:08] <fde> nexus23: what are you trying to mount?
[17:08] <nexus23> an external usb hard drive fde
[17:08] <Slart> fde: impossible even while running something like compiz?
[17:08] <nexus23> normally i plug it in and it auto mounts
[17:08] <fde> Slart: Yes, because as I said, Compiz is just a Window Manager... if you kill compiz, you are left with borderless apps...
[17:09] <bkovacs> When will Cinepaint be put back into the repositories?(H)
[17:09] <nexus23> http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/8062/34571310ee4.jpg
[17:10] <nexus23>  awesome window manager > *
[17:10] <Milosz> hey
[17:10] <Milosz> how do i mount an USB stick so it doesn't constantly complain that it can not "preserve permissions" when copying files?
[17:10] <fde> nexus23: sudo aptitude install pastebinit && tail -n50 /etc/messages | pastebinit  ... this will output a URL... please tell me it
[17:10] <Milosz> must be some option to mount but i don't know which
[17:10] <mario> Is here someone who takes care for the keyboard configuration?
[17:10] <sysdoc> Anyone have a howto to boot to runlevel 3?
[17:10] <nexus23> k fde
[17:11] <Slart> fde: I must be missing something very fundamental about this.. we're still talking about making an application appear transparent.. ie seeing windows/desktop/icons etc behind the window
[17:11] <sysdoc> ! runlevel
[17:11] <sipior> bkovacs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cinepaint/+bug/190791
[17:11] <Slart> fde: and still being able to use the application.. ie click buttons, change focus etc as usual
[17:12] <nexus23> fde, ail: cannot open `/etc/messages' for reading: No such file or directory
[17:12] <nexus23> KeyboardInterrupt catched.
[17:12] <Jeaton> is there an apache build for ubuntu?
[17:12] <fde> Slart: yes we are... and yes you are... pkill -9 compiz.real and notice what happens to the screen... your windows won't have borders... that's basically all compiz is
[17:12] <sipior> sysdoc: you can modify /etc/event.d/rc-default, or just make up a valid /etc/inittab (ubuntu, by default, sadly lacks one)
[17:13] <fde> !info apache2
[17:13] <Slart> Jeaton: you can install apache from the repos.. I don't know if it's a special build just for ubuntu though
[17:13] <n8tuser> !clone
[17:13] <mewshi> I'm putting Ubuntu on my girlfriend's computer :)
[17:13] <Slart> fde: but I've just made my firefox window transparent.. and I can still use it.. same thing with something I think is a plain gtk app
[17:14] <fde> Slart: screenshot?
[17:15] <Slart> fde: have you played around with the full desktop effects setting? wobbling windows? windows burning up.. windows folding up into little airplanes etc
[17:15] <Slart> fde: ok.. hang on
[17:15] <fde> Slart: you realize I mean clicking on buttons and menu items etc when I say interacting?
[17:16] <fde> Slart: I don't mean just moving the window around... which is a job of the window manager
[17:16] <jumcore> hello, warsow dont want to detect my arrow keys
[17:16] <boban> Mrki27
[17:17] <Slart> fde: yes, using the app as normal, clicking links, using menus, dragging stuff etc
[17:17] <fde> I'm almost positive that is impossible... awaiting screenshot
[17:17] <nspyr> i installed ubuntu on my friends computer but with 256ram it wasnt doing very good
[17:18] <Photoguy> Try Xubuntu
[17:18] <Slart> fde: http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotft2.png
[17:19] <nspyr> Photoguy: you think thatll be good? he has substandard video hardware.
[17:19] <Photoguy> Just an idea.
[17:20] <fde> Slart: and you can click the URL area while its transparent?
[17:20] <Slart> fde: sure.. just as normal
[17:20] <ardchoille> nspyr: xubuntu is much less resource heavy than gnome and kde
[17:20] <fde> Slart: what are you using to do that?
[17:20] <nspyr> ya
[17:20] <Slart> fde: compiz.. regular plain old compiz.. installed by default since.. gutsy I think
[17:21] <nspyr> how about the new one? xde?
[17:21] <ardchoille> nspyr: dunno, never used it
[17:21] <bargaunmart> skillit
[17:21] <zimbres> Everytime I run a configure script i get a message "[: 98: ==: unexpected operator" and the script continues but does not behave in the expect manner. I have tested this script in an other pc(fedora) and it run ok. Does anybody has an idea about what is happening?
[17:21] <fosco_> nspyr, lighter than xubuntu
[17:21] <daddyfizz> anyone help with a usb booting/grub4dos/8.10 question?
[17:21] <nspyr> lxde
[17:22] <gary_> hey guys
[17:22] <fde> Slart: There is no transparency plugin, and there is no transparency configuration option in ccsm ?
[17:22] <gaintsura> I'm backing up my system (mainly for a fresh install soon), what other config files do I need to backup?
[17:23] <gaintsura> apache2  backup2l.conf	dnsmasq.conf  host.conf  hostname  hosts  hosts.allow  hosts.deny  ipmasq  iproute2  mysql  php5
[17:23] <Slart> fde: it's in a plugin called.. brightness, saturation, something..
[17:23] <Guest69472> Anyone know the command like <clt + alt +del> in ubuntu
[17:23] <Guest69472> it help me know what is running under ubuntu
[17:23] <Slart> fde: "Opacity, brightness and saturation"
[17:23] <fosco_> Guest69472, system - admin gnome system monitor
[17:23] <Kope> top?
[17:24] <Slart> fde: enable that and hold alt while scrolling the mouse wheel on a window
[17:24] <Guest69472> how can i get  admin gnome system monitor
[17:24] <Guest69472> is it a program
[17:24] <EGOR> compiz isn't workin on my PC........anyone help!!!!!
[17:24] <Guest69472> :-/
[17:24] <fosco_> Guest69472, menu system - admin - gnome system monitor
[17:24] <fosco_> its already installed
[17:24] <daddy_fizz> I've used the pendrivelinux.com guide to setup an ubuntu usb drive, but I would like to use grub4dos for my boot manager and not syslinux, so that I can run a couple other boot cds off my flash drive as well
[17:25] <daddy_fizz> would anyone have an idea for the menu entry needed to load up a persistent install using grub4dos
[17:25] <Guest69472> ha
[17:25] <Guest69472> i got it
[17:25] <Guest69472> thank you  very much
[17:25] <stwange> can anyone help me? I just installed ubuntu 8.04 on a USB external drive, and after a reboot I'm dropped into a grub prompt. I've no idea what to do here
[17:25] <Pici> !doesntwork | EGOR
[17:25] <Slart> got to love that factoid =)
[17:26] <Pici> Slart: I was just thinking the same thing.
[17:26] <fde> That's old... stolen from dpkg in #debian
[17:26] <suigeneris> why is my flash broken? what do I need to download?
[17:26] <Dist-> ive just mounted a shared folder from my windows machine, now i want to unshare it, how would i go about that?
[17:26] <EGOR> compiz does'n starts | Pici
[17:26] <fde> If people use it too much, it'll prob be deleted or reworded like the others  :(
[17:27] <Pici> EGOR: Do you get an error?
[17:27] <fde> !lart me
[17:27] <zimbres> How to know whether I am using bash or sh?
[17:27] <Dist-> i couldn't figure out how to unmount from the command line, and even right clicking the mounted folder and clicking unmount gives an error
[17:27] <nspyr> if i had not inherited "love seats" i might be on the couch right now
[17:27] <EGOR> Pici : nope
[17:27] <abarbaccia> im having
[17:27] <Guest69472> @ EGOR did u install compizconfig setting manager
[17:27]  * hischild seconds the opinion of slart and pici
[17:27] <fde> zimbres: if you don't know, you're using bash
[17:27] <Slart> zimbres: can you do anything useful? then it's probably bash =)..
[17:27] <Glenna> he336
[17:28] <abarbaccia> sorry - when my machine boots i have nfs shares listed in /etc/fstab but they are hanging and not mounting because the network is not started yet. anybody know why?
[17:28] <Pici> EGOR: How have you tried to enable it?
[17:28] <corpse> hi
[17:28] <sipior> zimbres: printenv | grep SHELL, or just ps
[17:28] <EGOR> @guest yep I installed compiz sttings manager
[17:28] <Slart> zimbres: there is probably some kind of enviroment variable.. I don't think sh uses colours and such either
[17:28] <stormlord> yo
[17:28] <zimbres> I have /bin/sh(symbolic link to dash) and /bin/bash .
[17:28] <Arrowhead212002> .7z= dumb archiving format
[17:29] <Slart> zimbres: on my computer sh only uses the prompt "$"
[17:29] <Pici> Arrowhead212002: Do you have a question?
[17:29] <Slart> !dash
[17:29] <fde> sipior: out of curiosity, any reason you don't use 'env' itself?
[17:29] <sipior> fde: either way. what does it matter?
[17:29] <Dist-> none can help with my unmounting problem?
[17:29] <EGOR> @Pici yes I have enabled it but just wont start
[17:29] <Backspace> How can I know if Wubi is going to install Ubuntu 64 bit or 32 bit?
[17:29] <fde> sipior: just more typing, and morbid curiosity... was wondering if that's a UNIX thing or something
[17:30] <zimbres> Slart, I have a script that is sopposed to run in sh.
[17:30] <abarbaccia> Backspace: depends which versionof the install disk u downloaded
[17:30]  * bkovacs[A] is now away - Reason : Lunch
[17:30] <Pici> EGOR: If it doesnt start then it should give an error.  What makes you think its not working?
[17:30] <Pici> !away > bkovacs[A]
[17:30] <Backspace> Okay, thanks
[17:30] <Pici> EGOR: I need to run to do something for work, I will return shortly.
[17:30] <Arrowhead212002> lol not only that but if your system desnt suppoer 64 bit then the install will fail from the start
[17:30] <Arrowhead212002> er support
[17:30] <fde> zimbres: it'll probably declare it in the first line... just head -n1 file to see  (it should be: # /bin/sh
[17:30] <Slart> zimbres: ok... then run it using sh? "sh scriptname.sh"
[17:30] <fde> )
[17:31] <EGOR> Pici: Compiz settings manager just wont start
[17:31] <chills> hey guys what's a good gui program that will allow me to automount ntfs partitions in ubuntu.
[17:32] <Slart> zimbres: I think dash and sh are pretty compatible..if not totally compatible.. bash and sh on the other hand do some things differently
[17:32] <sipior> chills: if it automounts, what would you do with the GUI?
[17:32] <Arrowhead212002> for compiz try sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[17:32] <fde> chills: there is "Disk Mounter" if you right click panel > Add to panel > Disk Mounter
[17:32] <chills> a program with a gui that allows me to add outmounts
[17:32] <chills> thanks fed
[17:32] <chills> fde,
[17:32] <Arrowhead212002> advanced desktop effects manager is better than the compiz settings manager anyways
[17:33] <fde> chills: ahh, Disk Mounter won't add anything...
[17:33] <Slart> Arrowhead212002: there's two of those now? *sigh*
[17:33] <chills> ah fde i want to add a few drives .
[17:33] <fde> chills: there are gui's for fstab editing, but I don't know their name
[17:33] <chills> hmm okay
[17:33] <RizR> chaps. Got an nvidia card with non-free driver. Got a working dual head display with ubuntu 8.10 (gnome). thought lets try kde4 :-) When I login there it just displays main screen and secondary comes as blank. I'm using twinview configured using nvidia's interface. any one with experiences?
[17:33] <Arrowhead212002> slart: two of what the settings managers?
[17:33] <zimbres> Slart, Everytime I run a configure script i get a message "[: 98: ==: unexpected operator" and the script continues but does not behave in the expect manner. I have tested this script in an other pc(fedora) and it run ok. It does not accept "=="
[17:33] <fde> chills: would gksudo gedit /etc/fstab count as a GUI if you make a pretty icon from it?
[17:34] <Slart> Arrowhead212002: yes, the compiz config thingy
[17:34] <chills> haha no :p
[17:34] <EGOR> @arrowhead I have tried both but none of them work
[17:34] <Arrowhead212002> ok let me get you another one to do egor
[17:34] <Slart> zimbres: you've tried both bash and sh ?
[17:34] <Arrowhead212002> i had this same problem like a week ago
[17:34] <fde> chills: it'd be a graphical editor though, and all you need to do is add lines that match the above with diff devices  :/
[17:34] <thegve> My cups (Ubuntu 8.10) seems to "cache" the printer status. When I go from work to home with my laptop, it keeps saying "printer not reachable" for my home printer (which is connected to my server running cups).
[17:34] <Dist-> the ubuntu forums suggest i use the command unmount to unmount the shared folder on my windows machine, but what do i do when it says command not found?
[17:34] <zimbres> Slart, yes.
[17:35] <thegve> Do any of you know if there is a way to set "always check" or something?
[17:35] <Slart> zimbres: then I would start looking for a new version of that script
[17:35] <fde> chills: a gui would make a 5 second thing take 5 mins for no good reason
[17:35] <chills> ah okay.. wait let me check
[17:35] <pato> Estou precisando de instruções para instalar um servidor ubuntu
[17:35] <ikonia> !es > pato
[17:35] <thegve> When I try to "find" a printer, it recognizes it. I just "worked around" it by messing up the configuration and then fixing it.
[17:35] <Ravi> I have a 512MB 800MHz. machine and installed Xubuntu on it..I love it..but when I run firefox, it slows everything down..any tweaks that you can suggest?  Thanks.
[17:35] <bobbob1016> Whenever I try to mount a USB drive, it says I don't have privilages to mount it.  I followed this, and "Automatically mount" is enabled in my priviliges, but still nothing.  It does give me an error when I try to unlock, but I see it there checked still.  Any ideas?
[17:35] <chills> how do i  identify which /dev/sda is my drive?
[17:35] <bigjon> Dont know if I am right here - but I have a question regarding the firewall and firestarter
[17:36] <ikonia> robin_dewd: assign more swap
[17:36] <Arrowhead212002> EGOR: so ADE is not in your system>Pref menu?
[17:36] <ikonia> robin_dewd: disable unneeded service
[17:36] <ikonia> robin_dewd: remove the wallpaper for a plain colour
[17:36] <iso50> I've installed Java on my ubuntu install, but Firefox can't display any java applets, what have I done wrong / missing?
[17:36] <Slart> zimbres: usually one of those works.. but if both fail I don't know how to fix it from your end.. unless you want to debug that script
[17:36] <ikonia> robin_dewd: make sure visual effects are at a minimum
[17:36] <ikonia> robin_dewd: don't run plugins in firefox
[17:36] <JonMan> whats thed iff in eth and ath?
[17:36] <fde> chills: fdisk -l ... if you know what file system it is... also, please add my nick to replies so I can find it
[17:36] <Slart> bigjon: just ask
[17:36] <ikonia> JonMan: network device names
[17:36] <fde> JonMan: nothing... its just what people decided to name them
[17:37] <sipior> thegve: i guess if all else fails, you could restart cups, but that's a fairly ugly solution. there's no timeout then? even after waiting five or ten minutes after connecting to the new network?
[17:37] <JonMan> o. ok
[17:37] <zimbres> Slart, I will try to rplace all == by =.
[17:37] <JonMan> Because mines eth1 and I always see ath0
[17:37] <fde> JonMan: by default, they're short for ethernet and atheros ... but the name is customizable
[17:37] <ikonia> JonMan: how do you know yorus is eth1
[17:37] <JonMan> iwconfig or w/e
[17:37] <ikonia> JonMan: ath can bea bridge device to the physical hardware
[17:37] <thegve> I'm at home now for about 1 hour.
[17:37] <chills> ah right thanks fde
[17:37] <JonMan> well I'm trying to get info on my wireless card
[17:37] <JonMan> it doesn't seem to work
[17:37] <savid> Hi, I'm trying to use ssh -X to my home computer,  but when I run something like xclock (for testing),  it says "Error: Can't open display:".     I have X11Forwarding enabled on the server-side.  Any idea what's wrong?
[17:38] <ikonia> savid: echo $DISPLAY
[17:38] <thegve> sipior, Last message was for you ( busy here..)
[17:38] <savid> ikonia,  the variable seems empty
[17:38] <ikonia> savid: thats the problem then
[17:38] <savid> ikonia, what should it be set to?
[17:38] <ikonia> savid: what ever your remote display is
[17:39] <fde> JonMan: lets start from the beginning, always a good place  :)  ... is it a USB or PCI wireless card? either lsusb | grep -i wireless or lspci | grep -i wireless depending
[17:39] <savid> ikonia,  wouldn't the display be local?? (ie, the ssh client)?
[17:39] <ikonia> savid: depends how you've got it setup
[17:39] <bigjon> I have seen in the firestarter policy definition that I can define a "network" - how is the question.  Only managed to define a single IP address or name. I want to define a network with subnet. Found nothing on the web regarding this
[17:39] <ikonia> savid: what is your terminal client ?
[17:39] <savid> ikonia, just typical ubuntu setup
[17:40] <sipior> thegve: i got it, thanks. kind of odd behaviour; one assumes the cups folks wouldn't let a problem like that go. does the printer show as unavailable even in the cups web interface?
[17:40] <savid> ikonia,  gnome-terminal
[17:40] <ikonia> savid: typical ubuntu setup doesn't have it setup
[17:40] <ikonia> savid: and your not using the root user I assume
[17:40]  * iso50 needs help with java install 
[17:40] <savid> ikonia, no, not using root
[17:40] <savid> but I have access to root on both machines
[17:40] <fde> iso50: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:40] <pato> preciso de ajuda
[17:41] <cwillu> savid, if you want to run apps remotely over ssh, you need to do ssh -XC
[17:41] <fde> !br
[17:41] <JonMan> fde: sry hold up
[17:41] <cwillu> savid, x forwarding isn't enabled by default because it's a big security hole if you don't trust the machines you're logging into
[17:41] <ikonia> savid: so you should be able to do DISPLAY=localhost:0.0
[17:41] <ikonia> savid: however your machine should set that when you do an ssh -X
[17:41] <thegve> sipior, the status on my server is OK (when I "discover" the printer of connect to my server using the gnome tools, the printer is "available"). On my local machine (laptop) I don't have the web interface I guess (stock install ... not checked but doesn't make sense, will check now)
[17:41] <cwillu> savid, i.e., if you log into my desktop with ssh -XC (under an account I give you), then I could largely take over your desktop
[17:41] <fde> JonMan: how is your wireless connected to your computer?
[17:41] <ikonia> savid: I suggest you log out of your client, log back in and before you do anything do an echo $DISPLAY to see what your local terminal is
[17:41] <JonMan> fde: its pcie becaues its buitl into the laptop
[17:41] <thegve> whaa, I have the web interface :)
[17:41] <pato> onde acho a ajuda em portugues
[17:41] <kane77> hi, what program should I use if I want to fit subtitles to a movie?
[17:41] <JonMan> Its broadcom model
[17:42] <fde> JonMan: you are on that machine now?
[17:42] <JonMan> yes
[17:42] <savid> ikonia, my local display is :0.0
[17:42] <savid> but when I ssh into the server,  the $DISPLAY variable is empty
[17:42] <pato> ajuda
[17:42] <thegve> sipior, The printers at my work are "available", as is my home printer (after that kicking of my cups I just did)
[17:42] <masque7> trying to set up a LAMP server - localhost in browser isn't showing me phpmyadmin directory even though it's installed :/
[17:43] <cwillu> savid, are you ssh'ing with -XC?
[17:43] <savid> cwillu,  just ssh -X
[17:43] <fde> JonMan: ok... sudo aptitude install b43-fwcutter ... then go into System > Administration > Hardware Drivers ... is it listed (after installing this package) ?
[17:43] <JonMan> fde: yes
[17:43] <JonMan> k
[17:43] <sipior> thegve: does it work the other way? when you go to work, are the printers immediately available?
[17:43] <ikonia> savid: that suggests the server damon is not setup for X11 forwading
[17:43] <thegve> sipior, To be clear, the printers at my work should not be available here, I currently don't have a VPN set up...
[17:43] <cwillu> savid, k, same thing really.  What's the os on the server?
[17:43] <hischild> ikonia, you have a second that i can pm you?
[17:43] <savid> ikonia,  looking at sshd_config on the server,   X11Forwarding = yes
[17:43] <fde> !br | pato
[17:44] <ikonia> hischild: sure
[17:44] <ikonia> savid: have you restarted the sshd after you set that
[17:44] <thegve> sipior, I just work there for 2 weeks now... I guess they are.
[17:44] <ikonia> savid: is your ssh_config on your clietn setup for ssh forwarding
[17:44] <xylog> savid did you restart sshd after you changed the settings ?
[17:44] <savid> ikonia,  yes, it's been set like that for awhile
[17:44] <thegve> sipior, But I haven't seem them as unavailable
[17:44] <savid> does -X forwarding require ports other than 22 to be open at the firewall?
[17:44] <ikonia> savid: shouldn't do
[17:44] <thegve> I'll do a test page to the work printer and see what cups does
[17:44] <pato> preciso de um roterio de instalação de servidor ubuntu
[17:45] <eula> has anyone here setup firefly / mt-daapd? when i try to start i get error : socket/port in use
[17:45] <savid> ikonia, didn't realize the client needed to be setup as well.  one sec
[17:45] <Slart> !br | pato
[17:45] <ikonia> all depends on the setup
[17:45] <OsamaK> adam7, hi, you still here?
[17:45] <olli> I have just updated to intrepid. I now would like to install the nvidia drivers via synaptics but there is a problem loading the kernel module at boot time. whats wrong?
[17:45] <pato> ubuntu br não tem um roteiro para instalar o ubuntu server
[17:46] <Slart> pato: type   /join #ubuntu-br
[17:46] <JonMan> lol
[17:46] <iso50> fde: Did that, but I can't see any java apps in Firefox
[17:46] <savid> hmm.  I just set  ForwardX11 to "yes" on my ssh_config on the client.  Still no worky
[17:46] <ikonia> pato: please stop requesting dcc chat from me
[17:46] <vesayth> Hello! I just have a small question, more of an annoyance than a problem. My trash bin says there is 1 item in trash but there is absolutely nothing in it. Anyone have any idea why? It started happening after my upgrade to 8.10 (on 64-bit).
[17:47] <tavi----> hello
[17:47] <xylog> savid did you restart sshd after you changed the settings ?
[17:47] <sysdoc> Does anyone know of a cpanel clone for Ubuntu?
[17:47] <hischild> savid, you have to connect using ssh -X (capital X, not lowercase) <remote host>.
[17:47] <iso50> fde: Nevermind I had an extra firefox window open.  Thanks
[17:47] <tavi----> someone cam give me a video capture software
[17:47] <tavi----> for ubuntu?
[17:47] <fde> iso50: lol  :)
[17:47] <savid> xylog,  why would I need to restart sshd on the client?
[17:47] <tavi----> i mean a profesionall one!!!!!!!!
[17:47] <savid> hischild,  I'm using capital X
[17:47] <ikonia> savid: you wouldn't
[17:47] <Slart> vesayth: mm.. I get that too.. at the moment I have 2 items.. I just wish it would trust me to tell it when it's empty
[17:47] <xylog> you need to allow it on the server
[17:47] <tavi----> and that work fine
[17:47] <ikonia> xylog: no you don't
[17:48] <tavi----> not in steps
[17:48] <ikonia> savid: ignore that, your fine
[17:48] <savid> xylog,  It is allowed on the server.  X11Forwarding is set to yes and has been for a long time
[17:48] <xylog> kk
[17:48] <Slart> vesayth: I haven't found any solutions apart from removing the applet and adding it again
[17:48] <RobH1> Hi! Just a quickie - i'm trying to setup 'open dns' on ubuntu 8.10 but just can't seem to do it. Please help! Thanks:'(
[17:48] <vesayth> slart: Ok. It just sounds like a bug fix that I need to wait on then. I'm just anal about having empty trash >.> lol
[17:48] <thegve> sipior, according to the web interface the work printer is now "processing, accepting jobs" after I send a print. I just get a balloon thing on my desktop telling me the printer is not connected. Web interface status does not change.
[17:48] <ikonia> RobH1: the ubuntu firewall does not block dns
[17:48] <OsamaK> adam7, (or anybody else) I just installed Ubuntu on the USB in the very normal way (just like on local HD), it worked great, but once I plug-it-off, it shoes me a "GNU GRUB error", I guess it just edited the boot sittings of the computer itself. Anyway to solve this problem
[17:48] <Slart> RobH1: I think there are some howto's on the opendns site
[17:49] <hischild> savid, so let me get this right ... you're connecting via ssh -X <host>, and the $DISPLAY variable remains empty?
[17:49] <fde> ikonia: well, if you block the DNS ip, it would......
[17:49] <Guest65717> what will happen if I stop every process is running
[17:49] <Slart> vesayth: hehe.. actually I haven't searched in launchpad.. can't really say I've tried finding out why it behaves the way it does.. but removing it and adding it again fixes it for me
[17:49] <ikonia> fde: by default
[17:50] <sipior> thegve: hmm. you might try asking in ##cups, see if anyone there has a better idea of what the problem might be.
[17:50] <cwillu> savid, sorry, was afk, what os was the server again?
[17:50] <fde> Guest65717: your system will restart
[17:50] <reformer81> So what can I do if I've forgotten my password (and I'm the system admin)
[17:50] <savid> hischild,   yes,  $DISPLAY is empty on the server
[17:50] <savid> cwillu,  both client and server are ubuntu
[17:50] <Slart> reformer81: boot into recovery mode
[17:50] <fde> Guest65717: easier to just do 'sudo shutdown' though
[17:50] <savid> server is ubuntu hardy, client is ibex
[17:50] <hischild> savid, The server on a local network? if so, please tell me the line you're using to connect.
[17:50] <fde> Guest65717: uhh, not restart, shut down
[17:50] <Slart> reformer81: then use "passwd" to set a new password.. man passwd for that manual goodness
[17:50] <cwillu> savid, what's the exact commandline you're using?
[17:51] <Guest65717> ...
[17:51] <reformer81> Slart: What's the command to change another user's password, though?  Is it pwd [user]?
[17:51] <Guest65717> so restart or shut down
[17:51] <reformer81> ahhh...
[17:51] <cwillu> savid, and is it a regular user that you're logging into?
[17:51] <reformer81> Slart: Thank you.
[17:51] <ikonia> savid: just a thought is the server running a server install ?
[17:51] <savid> cwillu, yes regular user
[17:51] <Slart> reformer81: I think so.. I'm not sure though.. so check that man page
[17:51] <edmoore> Hi - just finished downloading the 8.10 liveCD. However, i can't see any option to get RAID0 on the target machine's 2 identical hard discs. What should I be doing differently?
[17:51] <savid> cwillu,    ssh -x hostname
[17:51] <savid> doh
[17:51] <fde> Guest65717: If you end every process, your system will shut down... basically
[17:51] <savid> that's not it
[17:51] <savid> ssh -X hostname
[17:51] <Slart> !alternate | edmoore
[17:51] <FloodBot1> savid: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:51] <hischild> savid, copy paste the line please
[17:51] <cwillu> savid, -X presumably :p
[17:51] <cwillu> big X, not little x
[17:51] <reformer81> Slart: How does one boot into recovery mode, though.  Is it in the GRUB menu?
[17:51]  * bkovacs is no longer away : Gone for 21 minutes 32 seconds
[17:51] <Slart> edmoore: I think you need the alternate install cd to install to raid
[17:51] <savid> hischild, I'm not giving out my hostname
[17:51] <RawSushi> is it possible to use vmware while using the nvidia driver?
[17:52] <fde> Guest65717: only, if you kill init, it'll just sit there, doing nothing at all...
[17:52] <edmoore> Slart: sigh. 128kbps internet :(
[17:52] <edmoore> oh well, thanks
[17:52] <thegve> sipior, Ok, thanks... I'll do that later when I have a little more time... I have an apointment in an hour and I have to do some other things first.. Thanks for helping!
[17:52] <savid> It's simple.   ssh -X hostname.com
[17:52] <tavi----> someone help me?
[17:52] <Guest65717> yup
[17:52] <Slart> reformer81: I get two options in grub for every kernel.. one is default and one is recovery
[17:52] <EQUIV> does ubuntu support nvidia geforce 7050pv with nforce 630a?
[17:52] <Guest65717> but i am not kill it
[17:52] <goog> Hey People! Im still trying to repair thunderbird, that does not find my email accounts anymore. When I run "strace -o trace.txt thunderbird", the .mozilla-thunderbird folder is not mentioned there. Doesnt strace trace all file access?
[17:52] <Guest65717> i'm just stop it
[17:52] <Slart> edmoore: ah.. that hurts..
[17:52] <reformer81> RawSushi: No.... sadly you cannot play your games with a virtual machine
[17:52] <reformer81> Slart: Thanks again.
[17:52] <sipior> savid: what's happens if you turn on some verbosity with -v?
[17:52] <cwillu> savid, can you pastebin the sshd_config from the server, and the ssh_config from the client?
[17:52] <Slart> edmoore: there are ways of doing it.. but I doubt it will be faster than getting the other cd
[17:52] <RawSushi> reformer81: well I meant in Linux
[17:52] <RawSushi> I need my nividia driver when using Linux
[17:52] <tavi----> a name of a software for video capture
[17:52] <RawSushi> I don't need it in the virtual machine.
[17:53] <reformer81> RawSushi: Oh, then yes of course.
[17:53] <hischild> savid, set DISPLAY variable on the server to localhost:10.0 and see if it forwards.
[17:53] <RawSushi> it messes with my settings every time I boot up.
[17:53] <olli> re
[17:53] <tavi----> a professional one
[17:53] <Slart> tavi----: there's supposed to be a few.. check if ubuntu studio has something good
[17:53] <ikonia> savid: is the server running a server install ?
[17:54] <savid> hischild, nope, didn't work
[17:54] <savid> ikonia,  no, both regular ubuntu
[17:54] <tavi----> they are working crappy
[17:54] <ikonia> savid: and both are running active X11 displays now
[17:54] <Marsjanin> Hello. I tried to burn on CD-R a file, thats tame contains some Chinese letters. K3B doesn't like it... :/ WIth Joliet/RR says (even if just symulating or making ISO) "cannot determine size of target image" or sth similar. And with UDF used instead, it burns, and cannot verify. The CD mounts on no drives.
[17:54] <edmoore> Slart: I guess i can't install LVM 'posthumously' - it's gotta be done at install?
[17:54] <dmartinez> canal es español
[17:54] <savid> ikonia,  yes
[17:55] <ikonia> edmoore: you can install it post install fine
[17:55] <Slart> edmoore: oh.. I have no idea.. I've only thought about installing lvm myself
[17:55] <hischild> savid, give it a go with -Y instead of -X.
[17:55] <Slart> !es | dmartinez
[17:55] <ikonia> savid: on your client, run xhost+ then setyour display on the server connectied client to $CLIENT_IP:0.0
[17:55] <edmoore> ikonia: likewise raid0?
[17:55] <ikonia> edmoore: yup
[17:55] <fde> edmoore: Yes, you have to install with LVM if you want to use it... why do you want to though?
[17:55] <diffred> dmartinez: nope
[17:55] <ikonia> edmoore: however raid0 can't be used as a boot partition and is also suicide
[17:55] <edmoore> basically i downloaded the normal 8.10 disc and want to do raid0 lvm, didn't realise you couldn't
[17:56] <edmoore> why is it suicide?
[17:56] <ikonia> edmoore: because the slightest inconsistancy with any of the desks and your file system is dead
[17:56] <savid> hischild,  tried -Y,  no difference
[17:56] <savid> crap
[17:56] <ikonia> s/desk/disk
[17:56] <savid> ikonia,  my local IP?  or my public IP?
[17:56] <edmoore> ikonia: recommendations instead?
[17:56] <ikonia> savid: whatever one the server can talk to
[17:57] <fde> edmoore: ahh, this is a server? are you planning on expanding partitions and adding to the storage?
[17:57] <ikonia> edmoore: buy a big disk,
[17:57] <savid> both server and client are NAT'd
[17:57] <ikonia> edmoore: use multiple partitions on small disks
[17:57] <ikonia> edmoore: use lvm without raid
[17:57] <hischild> savid, ok ... do this --> export > file.tmp, then star out any info you can't give, and pastebin the result.
[17:57] <fde> ikonia: raid is fine on lvm
[17:57] <savid> hischild,  on the server or client?
[17:57] <ikonia> fde: raid0 isn't
[17:57] <edmoore> fde: no desktop, I just don't trust anything to a single disc
[17:57] <hischild> savid, login with ssh -X <host> then do the export
[17:57] <ikonia> fde: corruption on the drive = =lvm dead
[17:58] <ikonia> edmoore: you don't trust a single disk, but you trust raid 0 ?/?
[17:58] <edmoore> mmm - I guess that's wrong
[17:58] <fde> ikonia: software raid is suicide... but hardware raid + lvm is my preferred server set up  :/
[17:58] <edmoore> maybe I could just daily cron sda to a zip on sdb
[17:58] <ikonia> fde: not with raid 0
[17:58] <ikonia> edmoore: why not use raid 1 mirroring ?
[17:58] <Slart> fde: why is software raid suicide?
[17:58] <OsamaK> Well, how to remove GRUB (or edit it settings to boot directly to Windows without the 'menu' thing): I installed Ubuntu on an USB, but the installer changed machine settings, it shows a GRUB error when I unplug the USB, how to fix this problem?
[17:59] <ikonia> edmoore: then you have redudant disks if your disks are important to you
[17:59] <fde> ikonia: no... I don't even understand why you'd use raid0 ... no parity
[17:59] <ikonia> fde: you wouldnt thats what I'm saying - he WANTS to
[17:59] <edmoore> ikonia: ok, raid1 it is
[17:59] <Slart> fde: or you're just talking about software raid0 ?
[17:59] <edmoore> ikonia: can I set up raid1 mirroring after a standard desktop install?
[17:59] <edmoore> this would be software raid1
[17:59] <ikonia> edmoore: not at install time, but you can certainly do it post install
[17:59] <ikonia> edmoore: software raid one (linux, not fake raid) is a very good option
[18:00] <fde> edmoore: again though, unless you plan on changing the partition sizes often, there is no need for lvm... just go with raid for data protection
[18:00] <fde> Slart: both... mirroring without parity is dumb
[18:00] <edmoore> ok. ikonia thanks. i will carry on as usual and raid later
[18:01] <Photoguy> Is there a way too download albums a different way in the Rythimbox/Jamendo thing?   There aren't any seeders for the torrent, can I download normally?
[18:01] <goog> How can i find out all files an app opens? strace? I tried "strace -o trace.txt thunderbird" but the output seems to not show all file access.
[18:01] <edmoore> how should i partition the second disc? just one big blank space?
[18:01] <ikonia> Photoguy: just buy the albums from any music store
[18:01] <ikonia> edmoore: install how you want to on disk one, then we'll worry about setting up your mirroring
[18:01] <edmoore> thanks
[18:02] <fde> edmoore: don't use software raid... if you don't have hardware support for it, raid isn't useful
[18:02] <Photoguy> Ikoni: No, I mean Rythimbox, the free thing.
[18:02] <sipior> goog: check out the -p switch on lsof
[18:02] <Photoguy> Jamendo
[18:02] <ikonia> fde: linux software raid is more than acceptable
[18:02] <fde> ikonia: it still sucks
[18:02] <ikonia> fde: the only hardware raid a home user will have by average is fake raid
[18:03] <chimp> siggen gives seg fault immediately after running, is there a way I can debug this so I can file a decent bug report?
[18:03] <fde> If you can't afford a proper raid controller, don't use raid
[18:03] <goog> sipior: hmm.. that lists only the currently open files i guess?
[18:03] <savid> hischild,  http://pastebin.com/m6feb8f3d
[18:03] <sipior> goog: yes. otherwise, you're stuck parsing through strace output.
[18:03] <Slart> fde: but what if you don't care about speed.. is software still worse than hardware raid?
[18:03] <mmh> hello
[18:04] <ikonia> fde: thats nonsense, you've got to help users with acceptable solutions, software raid on linux is more than acceptable.
[18:04] <Slart> fde: I thought the end result was the same..
[18:04] <Photoguy> Ikonia: I mean in Jamendo, can I download without the stupid torrent?
[18:04]  * fde has bad experience with software raid on linux
[18:04] <ikonia> Slart: the cpu from you machine deals with it, rather than the cpu on the card
[18:05] <MaT-dg> I want my wireless interface to connect to internet en my wired interface to connect to another (windows) pc for filesharing, how do I do that with networkmanager?
[18:06] <Photoguy> ikonia: I mean in Jamendo, can I download without the stupid torrent?
[18:06] <xaos11> Hi guys
[18:06] <mmh> hello
[18:06] <Delvien> !hi xaos11
[18:06] <tv7497> guys do anyone of you here user wifi usb wg111v3 by netgear
[18:06] <hischild> savid, tnx for doin that. No offense, but did you really connect with the -X option? Because according to that file, you just connected. You're missing about 3-4 declares.
[18:06] <Delvien> tv7497: no, but is there an issue?
[18:07] <savid> hischild,  I promise.  I used   ssh -X (capital X).  Many many times :)
[18:07] <lucio12345> hello what kind of remote desktop server can i use in ubuntu?
[18:07] <cwillu> savid, can you pastebin /etc/ssh/ssh_config on the client, and /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the server?
[18:08] <Delvien> lucio12345: VNC
[18:08] <hischild> savid, only reason i can think of is that the return path is somehow not available. Please do as cwillu asked.
[18:08] <cwillu> lucio12345, vnc for a full desktop (you can connect to an rdp as well)
[18:08] <mib_slsi0d> hi when i load firefox, the top and bottom gnome panels go away, how I can fix this?
[18:08] <xaos11> how do I go about adding something from init.d to startup automatically? I tried update-rc.d and it doesn't start up automatically... i get this error :update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/tpb missing LSB style header
[18:08] <cwillu> lucio12345, ssh for particular apps (like citrix on windows)
[18:08] <OsamaK> anybody interests in GRUB problems?
[18:08] <xaos11> press f11?
[18:09] <mib_slsi0d> excuse me xaos11
[18:09] <mib_slsi0d> THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:09] <xaos11> yea?
[18:09] <xaos11> np
[18:09] <edmoore> fde: ok, if software raid is as good as no raid, what do you reckon is the best solution for backing up sda onto the identical sdb?
[18:09] <cwillu> savid, you aren't using connection sharing by any chance are you?
[18:09] <y2ubunt> hi
[18:09] <cwillu> edmoore, rsync
[18:09] <edmoore> fde: as it has all my research on it, and loosing that is A Bad Thing
[18:09] <Photoguy> In Jamendo, can I download without the stupid torrent?
[18:09] <tv7497> Delvien: yes there are lot of issues when you are alone with out windows on a 64 bit machine of ibex trying to figure out what to do WITHout wifi :d well its been really ridiculous ndiswrapper doesnt support vista drivers and netgear dont wanna write s/w for 64 bit platform
[18:09] <cwillu> edmoore, rsync, definately
[18:10] <savid> cwillu,  connection sharing?  pretty sure I'm not.  fairly normal NAT setup on both ends
[18:10] <cwillu> edmoore, realizing that raid will transfer your mistakes instantaneously as well
[18:10] <cwillu> savid, can you pastebin me those files please?
[18:10] <Slart> edmoore: I would look into some offsite backup solution.. or at least burn a dvd once a month and leave with a friend..
[18:10] <edmoore> cwillu: ok that makes sense
[18:10] <savid> here's sshd_config   http://pastebin.com/m432ccb77
[18:10] <|Zippo|> hi, someone use XEN here?
[18:10] <marlun> I'm having some problems with firefox. I can't open it. When I try to open it it tells me it is allready running. However there is no firefox process running. I've restarted the computer, reinstalled firefox (purged it too). Nothing seems to work.
[18:10] <Steven_> i want to be able to run ubuntu at 1440x900 screen resolution
[18:10] <cwillu> edmoore, I've got an external drive that receives an rsync every night
[18:10] <Psi-Jack> I installed mysql-server stuff, and I imported my own mysqldump'd SQL, but because I did that, debian-sys-maint and mysql have problems now starting and stopping.
[18:10] <dennev> hello to all. how can u sync your smartphone in ubuntu 8.10
[18:10] <ikonia> Psi-Jack: whats the problems
[18:10] <cwillu> edmoore, http://jwz.livejournal.com/801607.html might be useful
[18:10] <ikonia> dennev: depends if your phone is supported
[18:11] <xaos11> how do I go about adding something from init.d to startup automatically? I tried update-rc.d and it doesn't start up automatically... i get this error :update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/tpb missing LSB style header   I can start tpb manually or run it but I have to do so as root
[18:11] <ikonia> dennev: depends what you want to sync it with
[18:11] <Photoguy> In Jamendo, can I download without the stupid torrent?
[18:11] <Steven_> ?
[18:11] <Steven_> gfwe
[18:11] <savid> ...and here ssh_config on client   http://pastebin.com/m136b5d41
[18:11] <Steven_> wef
[18:11] <Steven_> awef
[18:11] <Steven_> WGE
[18:11] <Steven_> AWG
[18:11] <Steven_> AWR
[18:11] <FloodBot3> Steven_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:11] <jorvis> marlun: try moving your ~/.mozilla directory out of the way?
[18:11] <Psi-Jack> ikonia: * Stopping MySQL database server mysqld                                 [fail]
[18:11] <ikonia> Psi-Jack you can't stop it if it's not running
[18:11] <cwillu> savid, ping
[18:11] <fde> edmoore: rbackup can go to local drives... there is also mintBackup if you add their repos (completely compatible, they even use the Ubuntu repos for most everything) - really easy to use
[18:11] <Psi-Jack> ikonia: That. And getting errors about debian-sys-maint being unable to login.
[18:11] <Psi-Jack> ikonia: It's running.
[18:11] <savid> cwillu,  huh?
[18:11] <Photoguy> In Jamendo, can I download without the stupid torrent?
[18:12] <dennev> it will not c my phone
[18:12] <ikonia> Photoguy how about stop calling it stupid like a child
[18:12] <slak> yo
[18:12] <cwillu> savid, can you pastebin /etc/ssh/ssh_config on the client, and /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the server?  (this is the third and last time I'll ask)
[18:12] <azurewrathx> hi why firefox 3.0 or galeon suck a lot on linux??
[18:12] <Photoguy> Nobody answered.
[18:12] <ikonia> Photoguy: just ask questions in a simple, polite and clear manner
[18:12] <hischild> savid, ping/pong is a check to make sure you're still there
[18:12] <savid> cwillu,  I JUST DID
[18:12] <slak> anyone notice how slapd.conf is missing from 8.10 slapd install
[18:12] <slak> why?
[18:12] <Photoguy> I did
[18:12] <ikonia> Photoguy: so ?
[18:12] <azurewrathx> work very bad and crash every time
[18:12] <slak> the default file
[18:12] <cwillu> savid, put my name on the line then, it's a busy channel
[18:12] <Photoguy> Well nobody even said "no"
[18:12] <ikonia> Photoguy: 1300 people are not going to say no
[18:12] <dennev> it is a htc from verizon
[18:12] <slak> MO
[18:12] <tavi----> hey?
[18:12] <Photoguy> :)
[18:13] <Psi-Jack> ikonia: Did you see the part where I imported a mysqldump? Meaning, debian-sys-maint wasn't in the dump so it got completely removed, and now Ubuntu's defacto stuff will not use it because debian-sys-maint doesn't exist? I added it manually, changed the /etc/mysql/debian.cnf to match the new password, but it still fails to work proper.
[18:13] <savid> cwillu, sorry.     here's sshd_config   http://pastebin.com/m432ccb77
[18:13] <tavi----> someone tell me a professional video recorder in ubuntu?
[18:13] <Delvien> dennev running Windows mobile?
[18:13] <ikonia> dennev: check if it's support, and then check what applications your wanting to sync against
[18:13] <azurewrathx>  hi why firefox 3.0 or galeon suck a lot on linux??
[18:13] <savid> cwillu,   ...and here ssh_config on client   http://pastebin.com/m136b5d41
[18:13] <azurewrathx>  hi why firefox 3.0 or galeon suck a lot on linux??
[18:13] <azurewrathx>  hi why firefox 3.0 or galeon suck a lot on linux??
[18:13] <azurewrathx>  hi why firefox 3.0 or galeon suck a lot on linux??
[18:13] <FloodBot3> azurewrathx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:13] <dennev> how can i find this info
[18:13] <cwillu> savid, thanks :)
[18:13] <Delvien> azurewrathx do NOT spam the channel
[18:13] <Slart> azurewrathx: do you have a real question? if you just want to yell and rant a bit there's #ubuntu-offtopic.. they'd love to hear about it =)
[18:13] <marlun> jorvis: thanks, that helped :) This happend after I updated to firefox 3.0.5.
[18:13] <ikonia> Psi-Jack: define fails to work proper
[18:13] <Dise> hdl
[18:14] <cwillu> savid, one sec, I'm checking the docs
[18:14] <camerongroom> Does anyone know why I can't use my wifi card on a laptop in ubuntu(the button won't work)just installed ubuntu :(
[18:14] <Psi-Jack> ikonia: OKay.
[18:14] <Psi-Jack> ikonia: Currently, 786 ?        S      0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/mysqld_safe
[18:14] <Psi-Jack> ikonia: Mysql is running, right now.
[18:14] <Psi-Jack> ikonia: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop
[18:14] <jorvis> marlun: k - your bookmarks are in the old directory, so copy them over.   :)
[18:15] <ASULutzy> camerongroom: What kind of wireless card is it?
[18:15] <Psi-Jack> ikonia: * Stopping MySQL database server mysqld                                 [fail]
[18:15] <Psi-Jack> ikonia: Not proper. I also get startup problems too, but can onlys ee it when I disable the splash
[18:15] <nspyr> http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/   ?
[18:15] <marlun> jorvis: yeah :) doing that right now. Don't have that many though, delicious user.
[18:15] <camerongroom> I'm kinda a noob so I would no clue how to find that
[18:16] <cwillu> savid, well, unsurprisingly, those files look fine
[18:16] <ASULutzy> camerongroom: You could try opening a terminal (Applications -> accessories ->terminal) and typing lspci | grep Broadcom
[18:16] <Psi-Jack> ikonia: ROughly put, my mysqldump came from within a Win32-run mysql server, so it did not have debiann-sys-maint
[18:16] <ikonia> Psi-Jack: kill the process manually, then start it manually and read the logs to find out what's going on
[18:16] <camerongroom> ok
[18:17] <Reformer81> Ever since I started using Amarok 2, it has given an error when starting that my "audio playback device does not work."  But I could always here the music anyway.  Now, after installing an Amarok update today, I don't get any sound.  What gives?
[18:17] <hischild> Is there any voice-to-text software available?
[18:17] <cwillu> savid, you're ssh'ing from the same user that you're logged in as, right?
[18:17] <cwillu> savid, i.e., you're not sudo'd or su'd?
[18:17] <Psi-Jack> ikonia: http://pastie.org/343365
[18:17] <LjL> hischild: not any free one, and the only commercial one i knew of has been long abandoned
[18:17] <slak> why is slapd.conf missing from slapd in 8.10
[18:17] <slak> anyone know?
[18:17] <hischild> LjL, :( that's 2 bad ... i could really use one
[18:18] <savid> cwillu, yeah, same user name
[18:18] <savid> cwillu, no, not sudo'd
[18:18] <LjL> hischild: i think i've heard some success reports using Dragon in WINE
[18:18] <Tonno> Hi everyone, im loooking for a videos converter for 8.04 GNOME, Not Pytube pleases.
[18:18] <hischild> LjL, i'll take a look at that
[18:18] <cwillu> savid, and you're running it from an xterm or gnome-terminal or whatever?  not a different linux vterm?
[18:18] <cwillu> savid, (just (re)checking the obvious stuff)
[18:18] <savid> cwillu,  just gnome-terminal
[18:18] <cwillu> k
[18:18] <ikonia> Psi-Jack: so the password is wrong
[18:19] <LjL> hischild: the commercial one was IBM ViaVoice, you might still find the (then freely available) SDK somewhere, and that SDK could be used by some open source software
[18:19] <Psi-Jack> ikonia: But it's not wrong. I set it in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf myself.
[18:19] <Slart> Tonno: tried mencoder?
[18:19] <ikonia> Psi-Jack: or that user doesn't have the right permissions
[18:19] <Psi-Jack> ikonia: And I granted ALL PERMISSIONS to debian-sys-maint
[18:19] <ikonia> Psi-Jack: so the password is wrong
[18:19] <Lappybox> hi all
[18:19] <Awsoonn> how can I tell how bit an unpartitioned HDD from CLI?
[18:19] <dennev> thanks
[18:19] <Awsoonn> big**
[18:19] <Lappybox> Im having a problem with sound output and Amorak
[18:19] <joh> Anyone know of a program (preferably console based) which can be used to monitor the bandwidth on the network and display bandwidth usage on a per IP basis?
[18:19] <ikonia> Psi-Jack: and make sure you granted permissions to local host or %
[18:19] <sipior> savid: cwillu: please forgive the interruption, but i wonder if you might try adding a few "-v" switches to   your ssh command, and then pastebinning the results?
[18:19] <hischild> LjL, hmm ... it's just that it would be so awesome to be able to use a VTT program under ubuntu. I'll see if i can find some more info on it
[18:19] <Psi-Jack> ikonia: I did.
[18:20] <Tonno> Slart, I can download it by the synaptic?
[18:20] <ikonia> Psi-Jack: try connecting manually on the command line then
[18:20] <Amun> my uncle, who has used windows all his pc life, has got hit with a ruthless spyware. i talked him into trying ubuntu out. whats the best way to transition him? he doesnt play any games that i know of, and mainly uses his pc for photos (google's picassa, luckily). any ideas?
[18:20] <Slart> Tonno: sure
[18:20] <Slart> !info mencoder | Tonno
[18:20] <pcmagas> hello
[18:20] <Lappybox> when I go to play a song with Amarok it says output unavailable the device is busy xine
[18:20] <pcmagas> can i ask something ?
[18:20] <LjL> hischild: yet another possibility is Sphinx (available in the repositories), but i don't think it's really strong in free dictation, rather only in context-specific grammars
[18:20] <pcmagas> because i have a problem with my mouse
[18:21] <sipior> pcmagas: it wouldn't be much of a help channel if you couldn't ask anything!
[18:21] <Slart> pcmagas: go ahead and ask
[18:21] <Tonno> ok
[18:21] <hischild> LjL, i'm willing to put quite a bit of effort into it, and it only needs to understand a few words.
[18:21] <pcmagas> so?
[18:21] <The_Undisputable> hi all
[18:21] <Lappybox> Can anyone help me with sound output and amarok
[18:22] <The_Undisputable> i would like to burn live cd
[18:22] <sipior> pcmagas: what's your mouse problem?
[18:22] <kulhas> whats the prob Lappybox
[18:22] <cwillu> savid, you're ssh_config's are pretty much identical to mine, the differences aren't relevant to this
[18:22] <Slart> Lappybox: just describe your problem, perhaps someone knows
[18:22] <The_Undisputable> is it ok if i burn with nero
[18:22] <cwillu> your, rather
[18:22] <Tonno> Someone here know where I can find the package winff for 8.04 (in .deb format)
[18:22] <LjL> hischild: oh, in that case that's very different, Sphinx will do. and if it only has to understand some *words* (so not "voice dictation", but simply voice commands), there are other possibilities too.
[18:22] <Slart> !burniso | The_Undisputable
[18:22] <The_Undisputable> and moreover with what speed i should burn ?
[18:22] <hischild> LjL, oh? please, tell me more!
[18:22] <kane77> hi, I have problems running programs with wine.. I did a clean ubuntu install and left only /home and now after installing wine some programs that previoulsy were running fine just don't run anymore and it seems to me that they are missing the 32bit libs (I'm running it on amd64 buntu)
[18:22] <Lappybox> ugh... anyone ?
[18:22] <Awsoonn> solution: fdisk /dev/sda   use math
[18:23] <md22> hello
[18:23] <Reformer81> Ever since I started using Amarok 2, it has given an error when starting that my "audio playback device does not work."  But I could always here the music anyway.  Now, after installing an Amarok update today, I don't get any sound.  What gives?
[18:23] <ASULutzy> Lappybox: ps ax | grep xine
[18:23] <savid> sipior, k, one sec
[18:23] <hischild> LjL, my ultimate goal would be that i can have it to control my music, or execute a few simple scripts.
[18:23] <md22> what software can i use to create a media server to stream videos to my ps3
[18:23] <LjL> hischild: continuous voice dictation, where you just utter a sentence "normally" and it gets transcribed to text, is something quite different from recognizing single words from a limited dictionary (where each word can be manually trained).
[18:23] <The_Undisputable> !burniso
[18:23] <hischild> LjL, hmm ... yeah, i forgot about that ...
[18:24] <Law506> kane77: you try setting the application settings to older version of windows?  Don't know what programs your running, but I run 64-bit and had to do that for a few programs.
[18:24] <The_Undisputable> !burniso
[18:24] <Lappybox> ASULutzy, david@david-lappy:~$ ps ax | grep xine
[18:24] <Lappybox>  8745 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep xine
[18:24] <hischild> The_Undisputable, please don't do that in here.
[18:24] <LjL> hischild: then you should have asked about voice commands, not voice to text, to make that clear ;)
[18:24] <Tonno> Someone here know where I can find the package winff for 8.04 (in .deb format)?
[18:24] <LjL> !info gnome-voice-control | hischild
[18:24] <cwillu> savid, you haven't done an particular security hardening on the server have you?
[18:24] <hischild> LjL, alright! time to check that out! :D
[18:25] <nite_johnboy> Hi - Does anyone know about or use OpenVZ ? ?
[18:25] <kneeki> If I wanted to migrate my Ubuntu settings from one install to another, I just have to copy over my user folder located in /home/ and that's it?
[18:25] <savid> sipior,  cwillu :  here's the output of ssh -vv   -X:     http://pastebin.com/m64cc4d84
[18:25] <cwillu> thx
[18:25] <savid> cwillu, nope
[18:25] <LjL> hischild: (this one is still based on Sphinx, there was also a KDE one not in the repositories, which used its own engine, can't remember what it's called...
[18:25] <dmartinez> canal e español
[18:25] <Lappybox> ASULutzy, any ideas?
[18:25] <hischild> LjL, i'm using gnome. always used it and looking forward, i'll be using it for quite some time.
[18:25] <LjL> !es | dmartinez
[18:26] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[18:26]  * hischild relaxes and enjoys the show. 
[18:26] <ASULutzy> Lappybox: Nope not really... And you can hear other sounds right, just not songs via amarok? Fiddle with amarok's configuration
[18:26] <nnull> where did all of those orwellians go
[18:26] <Lappybox> ASULutzy, no cant play songs with any player
[18:26] <Dise> hello
[18:27] <hischild> welcome back to all.
[18:27] <Lappybox> Can anyone help me with sound playback??
[18:28] <ASULutzy> Lappybox: when do you do cat /dev/urandom > /dev/audio
[18:28] <rw> Lappybox, whats your specific problem`?
[18:28] <ASULutzy> Lappybox: Do you hear stuff?
[18:28] <Lappybox> rw I have no sound
[18:28] <Lappybox> and no song playback
[18:28] <rw> Lappybox, what is your hardware config?
[18:29] <windral> connect rizon
[18:29] <Lappybox>  rw  How can I find that? sorry new
[18:29] <ASULutzy> Lappybox: Run the command I listed, because if you don't have sound working then you shouldn't describe the problem as "amarok won't play my songs" you should say, "My audio isn't working whatsoever"
[18:29] <ASULutzy> Lappybox: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/audio
[18:29] <Lappybox> ASULutzy, bash: /dev/audio: Device or resource busy
[18:29] <Lappybox> david@david-lappy:~$
[18:30] <sipior> savid: okay, so you can connect, but X applications fail upon launch, right? try launching one (remembering to use the -v switches for the connection), and see what errors are returned.
[18:30] <Lappybox> ASULutzy,  when I first logged in I said I had no sound
[18:30] <Lappybox> ASULutzy,  and when no on responded figured id be more specific
[18:31] <cwillu> sipior, savid's DISPLAY isn't getting set
[18:31] <Lappybox> ASULutzy,  sorry for confusion
[18:31] <rw> Lappybox, which soundcard, onboard?
[18:31] <ASULutzy> Lappybox: You could try and see  what is using /dev/audio with sudo lsof | grep /dev/audio
[18:31] <Lappybox> I believe its Intel its an HP dv4
[18:31] <hischild> cwillu, savid, do you know if you're setting or changing anything in your .bashrc file about DISPLAY?
[18:31] <rw> drivers?
[18:32] <savid> hischild,  yeah, checked  .bashrc on the server.  nothing.
[18:32] <Lappybox> ASULutzy,  when i do that I get nothing
[18:32] <Lappybox> rw,  how do i find the drivers info
[18:32] <Pirate_Hunter> can i install ubuntu from the minimal install iso direct from windows, if so how?
[18:33] <cwillu> Pirate_Hunter, use wubi
[18:33] <sipior> savid: cwillu: and what sort of errors does ssh return, when you try launching an X application with the verbose switch on?
[18:33] <additional> hello all   i have a quick question
[18:33] <Lappybox> ASULutzy, rw you guys still there?
[18:33] <rw> Lappybox, i mean, did you install any drivers?
[18:33] <cwillu> sipior, (without a display var, any x app won't even try to connect to anything.  DISPLAY=:10.0 xclock might be more useful)
[18:33] <dmartinez> canal español
[18:34] <diea> Hi.. does anyone have a clue ? i installed Steam with wine and then left4dead.. i launch the game everything is fine.. but then when the game session stars it kinda freezes.. (so there has to be some graphic problem)
[18:34] <LjL> dmartinez: ya te lo he dicho, #Ubuntu-es
[18:34] <rw> Lappybox ( manually )
[18:34] <savid> sipior,  no errors, nothing
[18:34] <additional> how do i run airoscript.sh from my deasktop?
[18:34] <sipior> cwillu: sure, but he can set that and continue
[18:34] <Lappybox> rw, no nothing just installed ubuntu intrepid, and using newest kernel
[18:34] <ASULutzy> Lappybox: So you've never had sound actually working?
[18:34] <rw> Lappybox, what kind of output device do you currently use?
[18:34] <sipior> savid: they simply fail silently?
[18:35] <ASULutzy> diea: I'd join #wine
[18:35] <hajmola> diea, i think there's a wine channel that would suit your question better
[18:35] <diea> ok !
[18:35] <diea> thnx
[18:35] <diea> lol
[18:35] <diea> wine is empty
[18:35] <Lappybox> rw, I get a repettitive noise when I first log into ubuntu, but no sound for any songs, I was using ryhtum box and Amorak
[18:35] <diea> -_-
[18:35] <sipior> savid: also, what does "xauth list" return on the target machine?
[18:35] <FloodBot1> diea: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:35] <rw> Lappybox, i see.
[18:36] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i sue wubi to install the minimal iso on ubuntu
[18:36] <cwillu> diea, #winehq
[18:36] <ASULutzy> diea: Maybe it's #winehq
[18:36] <Lappybox> rw,  so Im just trying to determine whats the problem and get sound working properly
[18:36] <tv7497> guys i have almost tried everything to make wg111v3 usb wifi stick to work on "64 bit" ibex no luck so far anyone here have made it work
[18:36] <ASULutzy> I wonder if there's a cool trigger
[18:36] <ASULutzy> !sound
[18:36] <NemesisD> anyone know how to reposition gnome-panel when you can't see it? I had 2 monitors and my left one died, now I can't get my panel over to my right one
[18:36] <CAiRO> is there any way i can influence the window placement algorithm of metacity? it does a really bad job when using twin view
[18:36] <kbrooks> tv7497, use "32 bit"
[18:37] <Lappybox> wow so no ideas?
[18:37] <tv7497> kbrooks: i will be sacrificing 4 gb of ram coz max a 32 bit is reading is 4 gb i badly need my 8 gb to work
[18:37] <coeus82> hello, can someone help me with getting my mouse detected. I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 and my old mouse was detecetd. However, I bought a new mouse (Logitech RX1000) and it's not being detected. An article I foudn on the web told me to change the xorg.conf file, but this is advice based on 8.04. Ubuntu 8.10 comments out the input device section because HAL configures it. Can someone help me get HAL to recognize my new mouse?
[18:37] <pronoy> which is the correct package for nvidia 8600gt vga ? i just need the package from packages.ubuntu.com
[18:37] <berburgnome> moin
[18:38] <rw> Lappybox, suggest you check hardware config. first, try to change the output device, sounds to me like a hardware issue.
[18:38] <fosco_> pronoy, nvidia-177-glx
[18:38] <rw> Lappybox, however it may be software of course, in this case check drivers /
[18:38] <Trinitrogen> Anybody have any experience with ntfsprogs?
[18:38] <Lappybox> rw, wow great advice thanks, sorry did all that, looking for some other ideas
[18:38] <fosco_> pronoy, nvidia-glx-177 (better)
[18:38] <ASULutzy> !sound | lappybox
[18:38] <rw> Lappybox, sorry, didn't get your history
[18:39] <Lappybox> ASULutzy,  ITS SET TO ALSA
[18:39] <tv7497> pronoy: well go to hardware drivers it will show you the recommended driver for your card may be 177 i guess
[18:39] <akahige2> Nautilus on Intrepid thinks my samba shares are removable drives... is there any way to correct that?
[18:39] <ASULutzy> Lappybox: And you read all those other pages?
[18:39] <kneeki> How do I migrate my Ubuntu settings from one PC to another?
[18:39] <cwillu> akahige2, if by 'removable' you mean 'they have an eject icon', that's expected.  One needs to unmount shares too
[18:39] <ASULutzy> Lappybox: type this: aplay -l
[18:40] <Lappybox> ASULutzy, card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]
[18:40] <Lappybox>   Subdevices: 0/1
[18:40] <Lappybox>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[18:40] <l3d> is there a gui way to config selinux on ubuntu?
[18:40] <Lappybox> ASULutzy,  did you see the output?
[18:41] <akahige2> cwillu: I do mean that, but when I browse them, nautilus says things like "these files are on a picture cd" and has a bar to open f-spot -- which is REALLY what I'd like to get rid of
[18:41] <ASULutzy> Lappybox: So it does recognize your sound card, that's a good start
[18:41] <cwillu> kneeki, desktop/app settings are stored in the . folders in your home directory, which you can just copy over.  Global machine settings are in /etc, although it's typically not appropriate to do generally
[18:41] <ASULutzy> Lappybox: Don't paste into the channel, use a pastebin from now on
[18:41] <Lappybox> ASULutzy, I know I just didnt have the site up
[18:41] <Lappybox> ASULutzy,  my bad
[18:41] <kneeki> cwillu: That's all I need to do? Just copy the contents of my user folder from one PC to another (including the hidden folders of course)
[18:41] <Lappybox> ASULutzy,  so if it recognizes my hardware then has to be soft right?
[18:42] <ASULutzy> Lappybox: Try lspci -v | less and find a line that has "Audio device" and paste all that
[18:42] <cwillu> kneeki, for your desktop/app settings, yes
[18:42] <Reformer81> Ever since I started using Amarok 2, it has given an error when starting that my "audio playback device does not work."  But I could always here the music anyway.  Now, after installing an Amarok update today, I don't get any sound.  What gives?
[18:42] <kneeki> cwillu: That just seems way to easy. Thanks!
[18:43] <Alastair_> hi guys (and gals) :D
[18:43] <jwl007> Im using sudo and getting the following error everytime: Password: su: Authentication information cannot be recovered .. any ideas?
[18:43] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i sue wubi to install the minimal iso on ubuntu? I dont want to have a full install...
[18:43] <cwillu> kneeki, that won't bring across that actually installed apps, but when you install an app that you copied the settings over for, they should just pick up your old settings appropriately
[18:43] <zimbres> Why does it take so long for evince to load a pdf file, sometimes I have to open using acroreader.
[18:43] <krishnan> iam planning to buy a external wi-fi adapter to fit into my laptop running ubuntu 8.04. Please tell me which one should I buy. I am using a netgear wireless router.
[18:43] <KonaRichard> I tested My Mint CD and it works on streaming. Where do I get the software to install with this CD instalation to get on the internet browser?
[18:43] <kneeki> cwillu: Hah! Awesome!
[18:44] <Alastair_> at last i've decided to switch my ntfs drives to ext4 and bought a new drive, but i noticed something puzzling...
[18:44] <Lappybox> ASULutzy,  nothing comes up for sound
[18:44] <ASULutzy> Lappybox: lspci -v | less, you didn't see anything that started with "audio device" ?
[18:44] <Lappybox> ASULutzy,  Im sorry
[18:44] <Lappybox> ASULutzy,  I got it
[18:44] <cwillu> Alastair_, ext4?
[18:44] <Lappybox> !pastebin
[18:45] <Alastair_> with ntfs i have 931GB of space on that drive, but with ext4 (0% reserved blocks) i only have 916GB...
[18:45] <Alastair_> where did the rest go :s
[18:45] <jorge__> Hi  guys
[18:45] <cwillu> akahige2, this probably isn't quite what you wanted, but nautilus | prefs | media has options to disable some of the prompting
[18:45] <Lappybox> ASULutzy, here you go  http://paste.ubuntu.com/88677/
[18:45] <zphyr> hi
[18:46] <cwillu> akahige2, are you using filesystem mounts, or nautilus smb:// url's?
[18:46] <zphyr> every body
[18:46] <pronoy> tv7497: i have a card on another machine...not the one i have an internet connection on...wierd but a problem nevertheless...so 177 ?
[18:46] <zphyr> i am trying to use
[18:46] <zphyr> blender
[18:46] <zphyr> any body
[18:46] <KonaRichard> I tested My Mint CD and it works on streaming. Where do I get the software to install with this CD instalation to get on the internet browser?
[18:46] <Pirate_Hunter> im using mirc so plaease be patient can someone tell me how to install ubuntu using minimal install iso without a CD?
[18:46] <Soopa> Hi all, could someone recommend an editor for perl programming?  With syntax checking and all that good stuff, preferrably.
[18:46] <zphyr> have goy any good soft book
[18:47] <sipior> Soopa: vim, emacs, any of twenty others.
[18:47] <ASULutzy> Soopa: For Perl stuff you could just use gedit or vim, but if you want an IDE (which is perhaps a bit silly depending) you can use eclipse and install EPIC
[18:47] <Lappybox> ASULutzy,  did you see my post on pastebin
[18:47] <akahige2> cwillu: that didn't seem to help any. but thanks for the suggestion
[18:47] <zphyr> i use perleidt and notpad++ in windows
[18:47] <cwillu> Soopa, gedit has basic support
[18:47] <zphyr> and scite on linux
[18:47] <kneeki> cwillu: How do I go about copying those hidden files from terminal? There is not an XCOPY command in Ubuntu -_-
[18:47] <ASULutzy> Lappybox: I did, it recognizes your card and uses the correct driver, so trying to think what the issue is
[18:47] <ASULutzy> Lappybox: sudo alsa force-reload
[18:47] <Soopa> okay, thanks sipior, ASULutzy, and cwillu
[18:47] <Alastair_> cwillu, yea i've decided i'll use it, after all they declared it "stable" some time ago...
[18:47] <zphyr> any perl coder here in the room
[18:48] <Soopa> I'll probably stick with gedit :-)
[18:48] <ASULutzy> zphyr: /join #perl
[18:48] <cwillu> kneeki, cp -r, rsync (cp on steroids), or just copy/paste from nautilus
[18:48] <tv7497> pronoy: its called as nvidia binary x.org driver ( version 177)
[18:48] <akahige2> cwillu: missed your other question... am using file system mounts
[18:48] <zphyr> thank you
[18:48] <kneeki> cwillu: Ah, I didn't think nautilus would work. Thanks =)
[18:48] <Alastair_> but it doesn't matter, my ext3 drives are missing simillar ammounts of space so the problem must be elsewhere
[18:48] <cwillu> akahige2, do you _have_ to use file system mounts?
[18:48] <russ_> anyone know what I can't hear any audio from a .mov video even though my audio is working?
[18:48] <zphyr> aslutzy
[18:49] <akahige2> cwillu: with the nas I've got, that seems to be the best solution
[18:49] <Soopa> ASULutzy: is EPIC in the repos?
[18:49] <cwillu> akahige2, smb:// mounts should work fine (installing gvfs-fuse will even allow legacy apps to use the mount point)
[18:49] <Lappybox> ASULutzy, did that but stillnothing, basically amorak doesnt play anything back niether does ryhtum box
[18:49] <cwillu> akahige2, mounting them somewhere other than media might do the trick
[18:49] <ASULutzy> Soopa: I wouldn't recommend install eclipse from repos
[18:49] <zphyr> how to join#perl
[18:49] <zphyr> ???????//
[18:49] <cwillu> zphyr, /join #perl?
[18:49] <krishnan>  iam planning to buy a external wi-fi adapter to fit into my laptop running ubuntu 8.04. Please tell me which one should I buy. I am using a netgear wireless router.
[18:50] <ASULutzy> Soopa: I would go to the eclipse website and download it from there (there's no sense installing it, that's what's nice about eclipse, you can just run it from a folder) and then from inside of eclipse, you can install the EPIC plugin
[18:50] <Soopa> ASULutzy: aha, I see.. thanks, I'll do that
[18:50] <akahige2> cwillu: this happens whether or not they're mounted in /media
[18:50] <akahige2> cwillu: and it didn't happen at all under Hardy
[18:50] <Lappybox> ASULutzy, also I should not every music program I go to use hangs or crashes when I try to play mp3s
[18:50] <melter> had anyone had problems with firefox showing dialogs on the wrong screen after the last update?
[18:50] <Lappybox> oops note
[18:51] <cwillu> akahige2, then I'm going to just say that using nautilus mounts will work better in general, although I can't speak for weirdness on your particular nas
[18:51] <ASULutzy> krishnan: I would suggest googling external wireless adapter and linux, I can tell you I have a wireless USB adapter that is supported by the RTL8187B drivers, but I'm not going to say you should definitely buy the one I have
[18:51] <akahige2> cwillu: fair enough
[18:51] <ASULutzy> Lappybox: Yea... I think we may have hit the limit of my usefulness, I believe there's an #alsa channel
[18:51] <cwillu> akahige2, there's a way to tell hal to ignore particular devices, but I can't remember how exactly
[18:51] <ASULutzy> Lappybox: And the guys there are pretty much pros at all things sound related, you could try hitting them up
[18:51] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone please answer my question or suggets something?
[18:52] <Lappybox> k on here ?
[18:52] <Lappybox> ok
[18:52] <cwillu> !wubi | Pirate_Hunter
[18:52] <kiyiko> wondering if no sound in flash is a universal issue, or if is an incompatibilty with certain hardware
[18:52] <_patko_> Hello, I'm trying to repair ubuntu, on tty (no graphic server), ifconfig and iwconfig detects my network cards, and I see the ip of my router, but no internet
[18:52] <cwillu> Pirate_Hunter, if you don't have a cd-burner or usb thumbdrive or something, then you have to use wubi
[18:52] <fryguy> kiyiko: it's certainly not a universal issue
[18:52] <_patko_> I don't know what to do to retrieve internet
[18:53] <gregor> http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/ navigation does not work without javascript.
[18:53] <ASULutzy> _patko_: Are you trying to connect wirelessly or from ethernet?
[18:53] <cwillu> _patko_, use dhclient <device name>
[18:53] <ASULutzy> _patko_: sudo dhclient <device>
[18:53] <_patko_> I've connected a LAN cable
[18:53] <_patko_> ok
[18:54] <Pici> gregor: File a bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website
[18:54] <_patko_> It returns messages without errors, ASULutzy
[18:55] <ASULutzy> _patko_: What are the messages?
[18:55] <fryguy> _patko_: then, unless your network is set up in a nonstandard way, you are on the internet
[18:55] <cwillu> _patko_, if there were no errors, then you should now be connected
[18:55] <ASULutzy> _patko_: check ifconfig, does the device you used with dhclient have an ip address now? because you should be connected
[18:56] <NemesisD> hullo
[18:56] <_patko_> (I can't paste) Listening on LPF/eth0/"macadress' .... ends with DCPACKS and ip adresses
[18:56] <fryguy> _patko_: then, unless your network is set up in a nonstandard way, you are on the internet
[18:56] <_patko_> ok fryguy
[18:56] <Pirate_Hunter> cwillu, i have checked wubi but it doesnt seem to allow chosing iso install, it downloads a full 600mb for the net which is what i dont want
[18:56] <Alastair_> hm... any insight about the missing 14.1GB? :D
[18:57] <Alastair_> i doubt that the journal will be THAT big
[18:57] <cwillu> Pirate_Hunter, then you _have_ to find some way of burning it
[18:57] <Alastair_> o_O
[18:57] <fryguy> Alastair_: repeat question?
[18:57] <_patko_> it's becoming harder, nothing appear on the terminal when I type
[18:57] <cwillu> Pirate_Hunter, windows doesn't have a way to boot into another os directly
[18:57] <cwillu> Pirate_Hunter, and the minimal cd is lacking the things that would otherwise make this possible
[18:57] <_patko_> ok I'm internet now, thank you, :)
[18:57] <Pirate_Hunter> cwillu, ur breaking my heart here :'( ahhh will think of something
[18:57] <leewang> hello
[18:57] <Alastair_> in short: bought a new drive, with ntfs i have 931GB partition and with ext3/4 i have 916.9GB part.
[18:58] <cwillu> Pirate_Hunter, how much can you afford to download?
[18:58] <hischild> Alastair_, the amount reserved for root?
[18:58] <Alastair_> i have disabled the reserved blocks
[18:58] <Alastair_> nope..
[18:58] <leewang> hey was there a problem with the new i think aaaaaa flash update for 8.10 and youtube videos ? or just me with that problem? sry ummm firefox
[18:58] <fryguy> Alastair_: by default, ext3 reserves 5% of the disk
[18:59] <Alastair_> yea i know, i disabled that
[18:59] <fryguy> Alastair_: math seems about right for you to be "missing" 14.1gb
[18:59] <fryguy> Alastair_: use tune2fs if you want to change that
[18:59] <Doonz> whatwhat is a good chunk size to set on a raid 5 set up
[18:59] <melter> had anyone had problems with firefox dialogs showing on the wrong screen after the last update?
[18:59] <Alastair_> it's not that, i already disabled it (-m 0)
[18:59] <Alastair_> ^^
[19:00] <Alastair_> with it i was missing even more space :/
[19:00] <fryguy> Doonz: depends on the disks, the controller, the workload, etc.  It's a server tuning question, not really an operating system question.  I generally use 512kb
[19:00] <Doonz> ok thanx
[19:00] <zphyr> thank u all
[19:00] <NemesisD> anyone know what i should do when gnome panel goes missing? my left monitor died so i removed it and reset my resolution and now gnome-panel is missing
[19:01] <fryguy> !reset-panel
[19:01] <Alastair_> i think it's the journal, but wtf... why does it take so much space :s
[19:01] <skylarS> how can I see if a user has root access, give a user root access and change that user's root access passwd?
[19:01] <therealnanotube> hey guys, easy question: where does pidgin store the profile and chat logs and stuff now (in intrepid). i have an old .gaim folder from feisty, from back when it was still called gaim, and want to restore it.
[19:01] <fryguy> !resetpanel
[19:01] <fryguy> therealnanotube: ~/.purple
[19:02] <administrador>      hola buenas tardes
[19:02] <Pici> !es | administrador
[19:02] <TonyMk> .need bot net i have valid cc and frehs paypal whit 200 $
[19:02] <fryguy> skylarS: membership to the admin group controls whether they have access
[19:02] <administrador> tengo una duda existe algun programa como pessulus pero para xfce
[19:02] <NemesisD> fryguy: should i do that as root? says it failed to contact the configuration serrver
[19:02] <therealnanotube> fryguy: and the logs dir is ~/.purple/logs? and buddy list is ~/.purple/blist.xml?
[19:02] <fryguy> NemesisD: do what as root
[19:03] <Kope> ok .. tryiing to figure something out .. i go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/devel and I find things like cmucl, but if i got into applications->Add/Remove they can't be found . Howdo i get those items that are listed on teh web site but not on the application add/remove app?
[19:03] <fryguy> therealnanotube: i guess
[19:03] <NemesisD> fryguy: what resetpanel said
[19:03] <therealnanotube> fryguy: could you check?
[19:03] <fryguy> therealnanotube: no
[19:03] <skylarS> fryguy, nice, so can I get a list of members of a group?
[19:03] <Snupt> hello. Why Firefox have offline mode when it starts if Network Manager was disabled?
[19:03] <fryguy> skylarS: use
[19:03] <therealnanotube> fryguy: why not? cuz you don't run gaim? :)
[19:03] <fryguy> skylarS: /etc/group
[19:03] <fryguy> therealnanotube: right
[19:03] <mtinman> When I try to update my Live USB install using the included Update Manager, it breaks the install. Is there any fixes for this?
[19:03] <therealnanotube> fryguy: heh ok... well ill stick them in, and see if they get picked up, then...
[19:04] <Gast111> http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=gxUyTmZcpfg
[19:04] <fryguy> NemesisD: then you probably have a more significant problem
[19:04] <fryguy> NemesisD: i don't use gnome so no idea beyond the factoid
[19:04] <ramiro> hi
[19:05] <ramiro> what's an app I can use to check the cpu temperature?
[19:05] <fryguy> ramiro: lm-sensors
[19:06] <ardchoille> ramiro: gkrellm can do that and a whole lot more
[19:07] <mtinman> When I try to update my Live USB install using the included Update Manager, it breaks the install. Is there any fixes for this?
[19:07] <doudou> wzhat is package for loadkeys programm ?
[19:08] <Snupt> fixed. I had changed option in about:config: https://bugs.launchpad.net/network-manager/+bug/191889
[19:08] <ramiro> gkrellm doesn't show anything for temperature. do I have to enable something in the kernel?
[19:08] <Alastair_> hm
[19:08] <Armagguedes> hello
[19:08] <zx80user> just me or is anyone else's firefox now not working after the upgrade?
[19:08] <NemesisD> fryguy: i still can't get the panel to show up
[19:08] <pcmagas> hello guys
[19:08] <NemesisD> fryguy: i just rebooted
[19:08] <pcmagas> can i have some help please?
[19:08] <fryguy> NemesisD: like i said, beyond the factoid i have no idea, i don't use gnome
[19:09] <Alastair_> it seems that the filesystem eats the space...
[19:09] <Armagguedes> does anyone know if there is any mobile phone compatible with Kaddressbook? either USB or bluetooth; i just want to sync my contacts
[19:09] <fryguy> Alastair_: i told you the fs reserves 5% for system purposes
[19:09] <bartmon> !vpn>bartmon
[19:09] <fryguy> Alastair_: and to use tune2fs to change it
[19:09] <Alastair_> it's not that fryguy
[19:09] <Alastair_> i disabled it, before with the 5% i had only ~870Gb
[19:10] <gregor> Pici, registration required. :/
[19:10] <Alastair_> now i have 916, but it's still less than ntfs - 931...
[19:10] <skylarS> NemesisD, if you want to go back to default panels you can erase all things /.gnome in you home dir and they will regenerate when you log back on
[19:10] <jdizzle> wow this channel is populated
[19:10] <Alastair_> it's not that much of a pain, i'm just a bit disappointed for this waste
[19:10] <skylarS> NemesisD, it is like 3 hidden directories
[19:11] <Edward123> seems quiet... some kind of netsplit still going on?
[19:11] <Alastair_> when btrfs gets out i'll swich again, i hope it won't waste so much space ^^
[19:11] <jdizzle> in xterm, alt-b just produces a funny character
[19:11] <therealnanotube> fryguy: seems to have worked just fine. thanks :)
[19:11] <jdizzle> bun in the terminal app in goes back a word
[19:11] <jdizzle> how can I fix xterm to do the same thing as the terminal?
[19:12] <gregor> Pici, login does not work.
[19:12] <ChristianBill> How do I set up sound in Skype? It already works in Pidgin, but Skype just says "Problem with audio playback"
[19:12] <darkrubicant> help, no matter what I do My sata drive retains the MBR with Windows xp and Ubuntu on it, I've formatted it numerous times, I've tried to fix the mbr using super grub disk, I don't know what to do, I've used the ultimate boot cd...
[19:13] <darkrubicant> Agh I'm at my wits end please help
[19:13] <Alastair_> anyway i'm off for a painfull copying of nearly 700GB of data...
[19:13] <moog_> hi
[19:13] <Alastair_> let's hope at the end i won't lose any of my porn :lol:
[19:13] <Edward123> hah
[19:13] <moog_> anyone can help me choose a ubuntu didtro
[19:13] <Edward123> ubuntu for porn
[19:13] <moog_> distro i mean
[19:13] <Edward123> there's a valuble cause
[19:13] <coeus82> If i'm logged in as another user, how can I use the terminal and log in as root just to do something real quick?
[19:13] <Edward123> moog_...... sure?
[19:13] <moog_> thanks
[19:13] <moog_> im not sure which version to choose
[19:13] <darkrubicant> coeus82, sudo
[19:13] <moog_> server or desktop
[19:13] <Emin> hi all
[19:14] <n8tuser> darkrubicant-> use dd to write to that location
[19:14] <darkrubicant> type sudo before whatever you want to do
[19:14] <coeus82> darkrubicant, but that only asks for password
[19:14] <Alastair_> yea...there must be a porn-dedicated version... p0rnbuntu
[19:14] <moog_> im running a Intel quad core cpu and 4 GB of ram
[19:14] <Katangawise> couseuse82run command su <command>
[19:14] <darkrubicant> n8tuser, how do I use that dd?  How do I find out where the Windows xp and Ubuntu boot location is in the MBR?
[19:14] <moog_> and i want ubuntu for home use
[19:14] <coeus82> If i'm logged in as a user that is not root, then sudo won't work
[19:14] <Katangawise> couseuse82 run command like: su <command>
[19:14] <Edward123> moog_, well if you're not largely going to be using it as a server (e.g. apache etc) then go for desktop
[19:14] <darkrubicant> n8tuser, could I get a little more help I'm not an expert on using UBC
[19:14] <Edward123> the only difference will be the software installed moog_, and you can always install more later with synaptic the package manager
[19:15] <n8tuser> darkrubicant-> dd always starts at beginning
[19:15] <Emin> can anyone help me with themes on ubuntu?
[19:15] <moog_> i felt that server is faster ..
[19:15] <darkrubicant> what's dd?
[19:15] <darkrubicant> when I load the Ultimate boot disc it comes up with options on what I can use
[19:15] <moog_> i can install server than bring the gnome
[19:15] <zx80user> I've just upgraded firefox as per the update pushed through manager-update and now it doesn't work - just displays a grey panel. Is this happening to anyone else?
[19:15] <Edward123> moog_, unlikely. i'd imagine it will just be the choice of packages
[19:15] <moog_> then*
[19:15] <bartmon> Hello! Can anyone direct me how to configure Ubuntu as a VPN dial-in client ? My router supports road warrior dial-in nd i'd like to connect to it (NOT to an openvpn server).
[19:15] <moog_> i see
[19:15] <moog_> but they say server is optimized for 686 only
[19:15] <coeus82> when I do "su" I get authentication error because I'm logged in as a user who doesn't have sudo priviledges.
[19:15] <coeus82> Almost like a guest account
[19:15] <moog_> also it uses pae
[19:16] <mrsmurfing> I had two NICs in my ubuntu vmware server, and I just removed one... the server is not running on the other NIC.. how do I reconfigure it to work on this NIC
[19:16] <coeus82> but I want to quickly log in as root through terminal, is this possible?
[19:16] <Slart> coeus82: sudo -i
[19:16] <moog_> also virtualization is better in the server version
[19:16] <mrsmurfing> The NIC is configured in ubuntu, and I can log into the server, but not the vmware console
[19:16] <darkrubicant> n8tuser, guess I'm looking for more information because i'm not understanding what you're telling me to do :(
[19:16] <Slart> coeus82: I don't know how su works in ubuntu with all the focus on sudo
[19:16] <igge> how can I find out what wireless network car I have?
[19:16] <fryguy> igge: lspci -vvv
[19:16] <moog_> lspci maybe
[19:16] <zx80user> igge lspci
[19:16] <Psyrix21> i was hoping some1 can help me install beep-media-player
[19:17] <moog_> is the 8.04 better than 8.10 ?
[19:17] <Psyrix21> in ubuntu 8.10
[19:17] <igge> ok thanks!
[19:17] <n8tuser> darkrubicant-> man dd    something like dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda_backup bs=512 count=1
[19:17] <bartmon> Psyrix21: Can't you find in Synaptic?
[19:17] <Edward123> hrm well i'm not sure about PAE moog_, i guess that's down to the kernel. let's see if someone knows more about this
[19:17] <moog_> thank you
[19:17] <Slart> moog_: define "better" =)
[19:17] <darkrubicant> ok so where it says boot:
[19:17] <darkrubicant> I can type man dd, and enter that command?
[19:18] <moog_> faster , much stable ?
[19:18] <Psyrix21> well....im trying to install through terminal using "sudo aptitude install beep-media-player"
[19:18] <moog_> i felt that 8.10 loads faster
[19:18] <Slart> moog_: imho it feels a bit faster.. but on the other hand they broke some kernel modules.. my webcam doesn't work anymore
[19:18] <moog_> i see ..
[19:18] <bartmon> moog_: Well 8.04 is an LTS release so it should me more stable but not quite bleeding edge.
[19:18] <Psyrix21> and its saying "Couldn't find any package matching"
[19:18] <darkrubicant> Psyrix21, try synaptic manager?
[19:19] <moog_> hard to choose
[19:19] <doudou> how can i change my keyboard from console
[19:19] <moog_> i might get a 64bit server
[19:19] <coeus82> sudo -i doesn't work.. it asks for the password for "john" which is the user that is logged in.. then it says that john is not in the sudoers file
[19:19] <bartmon> Psyrix21: The program is then in a differently-named package. Try "bmpx".
[19:19] <darkrubicant> alright n8tuser i'll try doing man dd from that prompt.
[19:19] <Slart> coeus82: this is the original user created at installation?
[19:20] <Psyrix21> i'll give it a try
[19:20] <moog_> i like the latest gnome
[19:20] <coeus82> Slart: no, it's a new user. That user is logged in, but rather than me logging into my account (which is the original user) I want to do quick root stuff through his account by logging in throug terminal
[19:20] <ryan-c> I'm trying to create a raid array, any ideas what's going wrong here?
[19:20] <ryan-c> mdadm -C -e 1.1 --bitmap=internal --name=xtb_raid --level=6 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 missing missing
[19:20] <ryan-c> mdadm: You haven't given enough devices (real or missing) to create this array
[19:20] <Lappybox> Im having trouble with INTEL HD audio with a pulseaudio sound server any ideas?
[19:21] <Slart> coeus82: ahh.. why not add the user you're using now to the admin group then.. that will enable sudo I think
[19:21] <Slart> coeus82: but I think sudo might be able to do that too.. or su.. hang on.. let me check
[19:21] <bartmon> moog_: AMD64 has been supported for a long time so 8.04 is available for it as well.
[19:22] <coeus82> hmm, but I don't want him to sudo... However, whenever he has a problem, i'd like to just go in there myself and fix it without having to switch user. Basically login through terminal
[19:22] <moog_> yes , i know , i wonder if i have a cd somewhere
[19:22] <ASULutzy> ryan-c: and you've definitely got the drives correctly setup using fdisk?
[19:22] <ryan-c> er
[19:22] <zx80user> ok, nobody answering so I assume it is just me
[19:22] <Slart> coeus82: what does "su <youroriginalusername>" do?
[19:22] <ryan-c> need to have /dev/mdXX after the -C
[19:22] <darkrubicant> alright here goes
[19:22] <ryan-c> but
[19:22] <ryan-c> now it's sayding
[19:22] <wepeel> Hi all. I just upgraded to 8.10 on an older Dell Inspiron. When I use the function key (Fn) and the LCD bightness keys, Gnome hangs up and the keyboard stops working. Logging out and logging back in resolves the problem, but it happens everytime I use Fn+brightness. Any ideas?
[19:23] <Lappybox> anyone ever solved Intel hd audio issue using pulseaudio?
[19:23] <Slart> zx80user: no such problems for me
[19:23] <Psyrix21> bartmon, there are three packages bmpx, bmpx-dbg, and bmpx-dev.......should i do all three?
[19:23] <ryan-c> no
[19:23] <jordi_> hi everyone
[19:23] <ryan-c> well i re-created the partitions and it worked\
[19:23] <moog_> im running 8.10 on a IBM Thinkpad T23 , Pentium 3 1Ghz
[19:23] <zx80user> Slart thanks, guess I'll try an X restart and then a reboot and then just cry :)
[19:23] <moog_> im impressed
[19:23] <coeus82> Slart: I think that might work
[19:24] <Slart> zx80user: that's what I do when my nvidia driver misbehaves =)
[19:24] <coeus82> Slart: ya, that seems to work
[19:24] <Slart> coeus82: yay
[19:24] <bartmon> Psyrix21: No, you don't need all three. "bmpx" is enough.
[19:24] <Psyrix21> k
[19:25] <jordi_> i'm using hardy and experiencing some lag-related problems when i use vlc, kaffeine or mplayer. The sound comes 1 second later or so than the picture. Has anybody experienced this? it's not defenetly the computer itself, as i'm monitoring it through snmp and the processor never gets busier than 40%
[19:25] <coeus82> :)
[19:25] <Lappybox> ANYONE ?
[19:25] <moog_> is this freenode ?
[19:25] <Slart> jordi_: I've seen that on a few movies.. mostly hd stuff I think
[19:25] <coeus82> moog_: yes
[19:25] <jdizzle> anyone making progress mapping alt-b to previous word in xterm??
[19:25] <moog_> ha
[19:25] <moog_> i didnt knew
[19:25] <jordi_> that always happens, when i play avi files or watch dvb-s
[19:25] <Slart> jordi_: I've just used the players audio synchronization features
[19:25] <ASULutzy> Lappybox: The folks in #alsa didn't have any clue?
[19:25] <Pici> geremy: Yes, you need to register on launchpad to file a bug.
[19:26] <fryguy> jdizzle: works out of the box for me
[19:26] <zx80user> Slart X restart fixed it, actually :-)
[19:26] <Pici> geremy: sorry, mistab
[19:26] <Slart> zx80user: yay.. cookies for everyone!
[19:26] <dvo> Hi all! Can I add RAID1 + encryption to an LVM partition? (Some older Howto I've read went with RAID1 first, and then LVM on top of it; not knowing that, I started with an LVM install and don't want to scrap everything.)
[19:26] <Pici> gregor: Yes, you need to register on launchpad to file a bug.
[19:26] <jordi_> Slart: does kaffeine have this feature? can i set that delay? or may be vlc?
[19:26] <Lappybox> ASULutzy,  I worked with them but apparently Im using pulseaudio not alsa and Im not having any luck on threads so far
[19:27] <vatts> how do i run .deb install in console?
[19:27] <moog_> worths to install 64bit ?
[19:27] <vatts> moog_, nope, half of things are broken
[19:27] <fryguy> vatts: dpkg -i
[19:27] <moog_> vatts: do you want to install somethoing from a deb package ?
[19:27] <vatts> and if you install 32 on 64 it'll fail
[19:27] <moog_> then dpkg -i , yes
[19:27] <vatts> fryguy, thanks
[19:28] <Slart> jordi_: it's probably buried deep in some config dialog.. mplayer has a keybind that changes the delay
[19:28] <ASULutzy> Lappybox: You could always trash pulse and use alsa? http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/alsa-instead-of-pulseaudio-for-ubuntu-810-intrepid-a-non-destructive-way/
[19:28] <moog_> then im gonna install 8.04 i386 server edition
[19:28] <moog_> and try it
[19:28] <vatts> did anyone try to install newest uck?
[19:28] <vatts> it fails at me :<
[19:28] <moog_> i like the live cd concept
[19:28] <therealnanotube> vatts: what's uck?
[19:29] <therealnanotube> vatts: is it missing an "f"? :)
[19:29] <md22> for a system with 4GB ram which ubuntu version is best to use  64bit or 32 bit ?
[19:29] <melter> had anyone had problems with firefox dialogs showing on the wrong screen after the last update?
[19:29] <fryguy> md22: 64bit
[19:29] <vatts> therealnanotube, GO FREAKING GOOGLE LMAO
[19:29] <jordi_> Slart: ok, it must be very deep hidden though, heheh, cause i've been the whole afternoon looking for it :) i'll try to find it. thanks.
[19:29] <md22> ok
[19:29] <Slart> jordi_: you're welcome.. hope you find it
[19:29] <therealnanotube> vatts: yea, i know, i couldn't resist the joke. :)
[19:30] <vatts> therealnanotube, then stop motherepicfail
[19:30] <md22> never thought the day would come where i remove my windows parittion and format it in ext3 :)
[19:30] <therealnanotube> vatts: :D
[19:30] <Lappybox> ASULutzy,  Im sorry can you explain what you mean
[19:30] <vatts> some people's jokes like yours are making me goes mad therealnanotube
[19:31] <Kope> anyone know how to install WoW WoTLK? I have the dvd mounted , installer pops up in wine, but it won't let me accept the EULA.
[19:31] <Lappybox> ASULutzy, http://pastebin.com/m47c3e615
[19:31] <camerongroom1> does anyone know how I can install adobe flash on my linux system?
[19:31] <fryguy> Kope: ask in #wine, or check the appdb on wine-hq
[19:31] <therealnanotube> vatts: it's a good thing my jokes are different from those other people's, then. :)
[19:31] <jdizzle> fryguy: alt-b does back a word in xterm?
[19:31] <Darkfuzion> help my screen freezes on an acer ferrari 3000 after two mins use what does that mean??????????
[19:31] <fryguy> camerongroom1: install the flashplugin-nonfree package
[19:31] <fryguy> jdizzle: that's what i said, yes
[19:31] <camerongroom1> no the program
[19:31] <jdizzle> it works for me in terminal, but not in xterm
[19:32] <Psyrix21> ty bartmon....worx
[19:32] <hendrixski> camerongroom1, when you visit a website which requires flash, a little thing pops up that asks if you'd like Ubuntu to install flash for you
[19:32] <fwaokda> how can i kill a program from terminal?
[19:32] <fryguy> camerongroom1: you mean the development environment?
[19:32]  * vatts no comment
[19:32] <fryguy> fwaokda: use the kill command
[19:32] <ASULutzy> fwaokda: see kill and pkill
[19:32] <moog_> kill -9 pid
[19:32] <NemesisD> anyone else have any ideas how to fix a missing gnome-panel ?
[19:32] <hendrixski> fwaokda, read the man page for "kill"
[19:32] <camerongroom1> I mean the program flash cs4
[19:32] <moog_> heh
[19:32] <therealnanotube> NemesisD: run "gnome-panel" from the terminal?
[19:32] <fryguy> moog_: don't kil -9 unless it's necessary. sending sigkill causes it to forcefully exit and will prevent onclose signal handlers from running, so that it will not clean up.  It should be used as a last resort
[19:32] <fwaokda> ASULutzy, fryguy, hendrixski, thanks
[19:32] <Darkfuzion> no ideas?
[19:33] <hendrixski> camerongroom1, oh... that thing....  Do you have a Linux version of it? If not, then use Wine to install the .exe  I don't know how well that will work though
[19:33] <moog_> and what decides if its necesarry or not ?
[19:33] <NemesisD> therealnanotube: says a panel is already running. when you kill it, it instantly respons the proc but i can't see the panel anywhere
[19:33] <NemesisD> :|
[19:33] <camerongroom1> ok
[19:33] <ASULutzy> moog_: I was about to type that, you shouldn't -9 everything
[19:33] <Darkfuzion> ?
[19:33] <moog_> matter of coice
[19:33] <moog_> choice
[19:34] <ASULutzy> moog_: Try killing it normally first, always give things a chance to cleanup and die gracefully before exploding them.
[19:34] <moog_> ok
[19:34] <moog_> thanks
[19:34] <vatts> ASULutzy, asploding maybe? :D
[19:34] <ASULutzy> moog_: In the way that shooting yourself in the foot or not is a matter of choice ;)
[19:34] <fryguy> moog_: if kill itself doesn't work, then move on to kill -9.  the manpage has a list of common signals with a brief definition of them.
[19:34] <zephyr> i have question
[19:34] <hendrixski> Anybody recommend a screen-scraping solution where it can fill out a form and iterate through the resulting links finding the email address in the linked page?
[19:34] <hendrixski> !ask | zephyr
[19:35] <zephyr> why floodBot has green light before his name
[19:35] <jdizzle> fryguy: are you sure you were testing with an xterm and not the terminal (ie alt-f3 brought up terminal)
[19:35] <zephyr> ?
[19:35] <etyrnal> ha!  i just came here today to tell You all that i DIDN"T need any of Your help... and i DID RTFM! ha ha  Consider Yourselves useless for the day...  err i mean un-needed..  Kidding around.  Happy Holidays to ALL.
[19:35] <fryguy> jdizzle: yes, i tested it both with my usual urxvt, and an xterm
[19:35] <Darkfuzion> so does anyone know if if the hard drive fails if it keeps freezing after trying to update ubuntu????
[19:36] <raylu> hendrixski: it's easier to just parse the html
[19:36] <ASULutzy> Darkfuzion: Hmm?
[19:36] <hendrixski> zephyr,  FloodBot1 is admin on the channel
[19:36] <moog_> that might be a hardware problem
[19:36] <raylu> hendrixski: as far as filling a form, send the http request with the appropriate get/post information
[19:36] <Darkfuzion> like what hard ware???
[19:36] <moog_> like hdd broken ?
[19:36] <ASULutzy> Darkfuzion: If you want to check how your hard drive is doing, you could do sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda (or whatever the drive in question is)
[19:36] <Darkfuzion> i said hard drive
[19:37] <hendrixski> raylu, ah, that makes sense...
[19:37] <moog_> well , my english is bad , sorry :)
[19:37] <moog_> haha
[19:37] <AslanMan> hi, anyone knows a good program that compares files (php for example) other than Kompare ?
[19:37] <Darkfuzion> ????
[19:37] <fryguy> AslanMan: diff
[19:37] <ASULutzy> Darkfuzion: But what is your actual problem?The whole system locks after doing sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[19:37] <Darkfuzion> ahhhh like fujuti
[19:37] <NemesisD> AslanMan: vim-diff
[19:37] <jdizzle> fryguy: maybe it has something to do with the fact I'm using dvorak...
[19:37] <moog_> whats tet fujuti
[19:37] <InfamousBytes> Why can't I post on the ubuntu forums?
[19:37] <moog_> that*
[19:37] <Darkfuzion> it locks when im in windows too
[19:37] <ASULutzy> jdizzle: You use dvorak? lol
[19:37] <hendrixski> raylu, so the page I'd get after entering the data (through get/post) will have links.  I would just parse info from those links separately... there's no program that can automate this? I'd have to write it in like Groovy, or Ruby, or.. something, right?
[19:37] <juliannojungle> hi all
[19:37] <keres> InfamousBytes: registered?
[19:38] <moog_> like i said
[19:38] <Darkfuzion> when i have like been on for two mins
[19:38] <moog_> hdd might be malfunctioning
[19:38] <Darkfuzion> it must be a acer thing
[19:38] <InfamousBytes> keres, yeah
[19:38] <moog_> one died for me today
[19:38] <raylu> hendrixski: perl :D
[19:38] <ASULutzy> Darkfuzion: It could be any piece of hardware, but it sounds like it could be thermal
[19:38] <ays> InfamousBytes you either aint registered or your account aint activated... or, perhaps you are trying to post in not allowed board section or in closed thread
[19:38] <keres> InfamousBytes: what section are you posting in?
[19:38] <Darkfuzion> yeah i think it could be a hard drive thing
[19:38] <raylu> hendrixski: there are premade libraries to do exactly what you want
[19:38] <ASULutzy> Darkfuzion: Run this "sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda"
[19:38] <InfamousBytes> Trying to post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=548547 in that thread
[19:38] <juliannojungle> someone here know something about LTSP on Ubuntu 8.10?
[19:38] <moog_> does it makes some "clonk" sounds
[19:38] <moog_> ?
[19:38] <InfamousBytes> And yes I'm activated / registered
[19:38] <fryguy> !ask | juliannojungle
[19:39] <The_Undisputable> hi all
[19:39] <jdizzle> fryguy: it works in rxvt, but not xterm..??
[19:39] <ays> ehm... "Hello, Unregistered You are browsing a READ only archive of the main support categories pre 4/21/2008. You will not be able to post or reply any threads in this section.
[19:39] <ays> We will be doing forum maintenance on December 20th, 2008 at 7am EST. We expect the forums to be down for about 2 hours. "
[19:39] <hendrixski> raylu, yeah,  I was kind of hoping there was a program that could do it instead of me having to script it
[19:39] <fryguy> jdizzle: it works in both
[19:39] <ASULutzy> juliannojungle: I would bet that there's probably a channel specifically for terminal server project, but feel free to ask
[19:39] <The_Undisputable> i have just tried ubuntu live cd
[19:39] <hendrixski> raylu, do you know of anything like that/
[19:39] <juliannojungle> oh, sorry ^^"
[19:39] <ays> have you, maybe and just maybe, read that?
[19:39] <raylu> hendrixski: we call it firefox :D
[19:39] <The_Undisputable> i have few doubts
[19:39] <jimjimhim> i just got a new sound blaster audigy se and I am trying to install it.
[19:39] <Darkfuzion> thermal as in the peice of metal thing that makes the fan turn on?
[19:39] <raylu> The_Undisputable: you need an article
[19:39] <hendrixski> raylu, LOL
[19:39] <keres> InfamousBytes: are you clicking the 'new reply' button at the top left of the page?
[19:39] <hendrixski> wait
[19:40] <hendrixski> so firefox can do screen-scraping too?
[19:40] <tavi----> does someone know a script similar to epace and pritecion for linux?
[19:40] <jimjimhim> I did cat /proc/asound/modules 0 snd_usb_audio 1 snd_usb_audio 2 snd_ca0106
[19:40]  * hendrixski googles this
[19:40] <raylu> hendrixski: no, it was a joke :(
[19:40] <hendrixski> oh
[19:40] <ays> READ ONLY archive InfamousBytes
[19:40] <juliannojungle> well, im using it in my cybercafe and i have some questions about local devices...
[19:40] <The_Undisputable> i have downloaded the folowing  ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[19:40] <jdizzle> fryguy: I was exclaiming that it only doesn't work in xterm for me
[19:40] <jimjimhim> do I edit/proc/asound/modules?
[19:40] <ays> thats why you cannot reply/post anything...
[19:40] <keres> InfamousByte: the thread is dead/locked.
[19:40] <Suhail> I got something weird going, /bin/sh says python not found when running a crontab even though I can execute python just fine--any ideas?
[19:40] <ays> guys, anyone here uses Qt?
[19:40] <keres> as ays said
[19:40] <ASULutzy> Darkfuzion: As in it's too hot inside your computer. You should do what I said and check what SMART says about your drive, because it could be RAM, it could be thermal, it could be your hard drive
[19:40] <juliannojungle> i've tried a lot to make webcam work on local amsn, but nothing works...
[19:40] <Darkfuzion> ?
[19:40] <fryguy> Subdolus: crontab runs using a different path than a normal user, specify the full path to python in the crontab entry
[19:40] <raylu> Suhail: what's the crontab entry?
[19:41] <ASULutzy> Darkfuzion: You should run memtest, check the SMART info, check case temps
[19:41] <Darkfuzion> how do i do that
[19:41] <fryguy> Suhail: read above
[19:41] <InfamousBytes> ays Thanks, didn't even notice that. But why would they make it read only?
[19:41] <ASULutzy> Darkfuzion: Start by reading
[19:41] <Darkfuzion> reading
[19:41] <hendrixski> raylu, you were right though:  http://simile.mit.edu/wiki/Solvent
[19:41] <Suhail> raylu: the crontab entry is correct, I updated my python to 2.6
[19:41] <Suhail> fryguy: hm interesting
[19:41] <The_Undisputable> i have tried to install on free space in my hard drive
[19:41] <raylu> Suhail: ...apparently not...
[19:42] <ASULutzy> Darkfuzion: If you want to check the health of a hard drive (let's say it's drive sda), then you would do the following-- sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
[19:42] <mker> Darkfuzion, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6983 I had to use this just yesterday and bookmarked it
[19:42] <_Bluey__> someone please help me. i m trying to connect my ipod touch with my itunes on a virtual XP machine on VBox... but i cant seem to connect it :(
[19:42] <Suhail> raylu: It worked before I updated my python version
[19:42] <ASULutzy> Darkfuzion: If you want to run memtest, restart and boot off a livecd and run memtest
[19:42] <raylu> hendrixski: woah, impressive
[19:42] <bernie_> what is a good p2p client to use any more
[19:42] <chiliblue_> how would I auto run something in this case a java app as a user at bootup
[19:42] <chiliblue_> ?
[19:42] <mker> bernie_, what kind of p2p you want?
[19:42] <hajmola> after a recent update, my laptop won't wake up from suspend if the power is connected. It will wake up reliably on battery, but if the power is plugged in it will not wakeup and requires a hard reboot
[19:42] <moog_> hfsplus saved me
[19:43] <juliannojungle> nobody?
[19:43] <bernie_> i dunno i was using limewire for individual songs and files and azureeus for full cds
[19:43] <juliannojungle> well, i think that im at the wrong place... ^^''
[19:43] <The_Undisputable> did i downloaded the right package
[19:43] <ASULutzy> bernie_: I prefer rtorrent, all command line, but powerful
[19:43] <Suhail> oh interesting, I figured out the problem
[19:43] <moog_> azureus is bugged , on 8.10
[19:43] <hendrixski> raylu, yeah, and the screencast is sweet
[19:43] <ays> InfamousBytes, maybe it got obsolete or when ubuntu got updated it stopped being "relevant" God knows...
[19:43] <_Bluey__> someone please help me. i m trying to connect my ipod touch with my itunes on a virtual XP machine on VBox... but i cant seem to connect it :(
[19:43] <hendrixski> raylu, thanks for the inspiration :-)
[19:43] <bernie_> i was wondering if any of yyou guys new of some good appz for getting music
[19:43] <raylu> hendrixski: heh, no problem
[19:43] <mker> moog_, what do you mean azureus is bugged?
[19:44] <ASULutzy> _Bluey__: You have to use the non-open-source-edition of VBox
[19:44] <hendrixski> bernie_, yep, go to deezer.com :-)  never need to download music again, just play it on demand
[19:44] <hajmola> _Bluey__, why do you need itunes, just use exaile or amarok
[19:44] <moog_> it keeps downloading and installing some .jar file
[19:44] <ASULutzy> _Bluey__: you'll have to uninstall the open source edition and go to the virtualbox website to get the non OSE edition
[19:44] <moog_> then it asks for restart
[19:44] <chiliblue_> bernie_: is there a need now Amazon music store has a linux client
[19:44] <moog_> and start over again
[19:44] <_Bluey__> ASULutzy: yes i am using non open source edition
[19:44] <jimjimhim> anyone good with sound problems?
[19:44] <ASULutzy> _Bluey__: You may have to add a line to /etc/fstab
[19:44] <bernie_>  i still have a cd player in my car and like to burn cds though
[19:45] <moog_> k3b is good
[19:45] <_Bluey__> hajmola: does exaile work with 2nd get ipod touch?
[19:45] <M3nelvagor> jimjimhim: I got sound problems
[19:45] <mker> moog_, not for me it doesn't (vuze 3.1.1.0). try going into settings and turning automated updates off, but I don't think I had to do that.
[19:45] <hendrixski> bernie_, you can also get music through magnatunes music store in Amarok music player
[19:45] <hendrixski> it's better than iTunes
[19:45] <_Bluey__> ASULutzy: yes i did that too
[19:45] <moog_> update it to 4.0.0
[19:45] <hendrixski> bernie_,  or you can do illegal stuff by downloading music files, but I don't recommend that, we're not big fans of that around here
[19:45] <hajmola> _Bluey__, not sure... probably not with video
[19:45] <moog_> thats the bugged version i guess
[19:45] <keres> i'm having trouble with amarok. it won't start
[19:45] <hendrixski> hope that helps!
[19:45] <ASULutzy> _Bluey__: none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=125,devmode=664 0 0 something like this (You'll want to modify the devgid= part to match the group id of VBoxUsers
[19:46] <hajmola> my laptop won't wake up from suspend if the power is connected. It will wake up reliably on battery, but if the power is plugged in it will not wakeup and requires a hard reboot
[19:46] <moog_> i like deluge
[19:46] <mker> hendrixski, doesn't have to be illegal, there's plenty of free music. And it probably depends on where you live too.
[19:46] <_Bluey__> ASULutzy: yes i have done that :(
[19:46]  * hendrixski loves this place.  I come and get a question answered, I answer a few people's questions.  It works out well
[19:46] <fwaokda> how can i uninstall songbird?
[19:46] <M3nelvagor> Anybody know another way to unmute sound? Alsamixer is open full, but still I get no sound
[19:46] <moog_> apt-get remove songbird
[19:46] <ASULutzy> USB passthrough definitely works in Intrepid with VBox, so you should double check
[19:46] <moog_> sudo
[19:46] <Edward123> fwaokda, or synaptic?
[19:46] <hendrixski> mker, there's also deezer.com   or songza.com  where you don't have to DL the music in the first place.   i'm a big fan
[19:46] <moog_> i like songbird
[19:46] <hendrixski> mker, but where is there free music?
[19:46] <moog_> is awesome
[19:46] <_Bluey__> do u want to see a screenshot of what it looks like?
[19:46] <_Bluey__> ASULutzy: do u want to see a screenshot of what it looks like?
[19:47] <moog_> on my machine , hendrixski
[19:47] <bernie_> i believe in free mp3s and have been downloading music since the pcs were only 66.6 mhz
[19:47] <shoot^> hey guys. I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server from a USB Stick (followed the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick) but I am getting errors about a lack of a CDRom. Any ideas?
[19:47] <moog_> i have like 400 Gb :))
[19:47] <jadestorm> Can I ask a powerpc ubuntu related question in here or does it have to be the -powerpc channel?  (it seems kinda dead)  =)
[19:47] <camerongroom1> how do you do a screenshot in linux haha?
[19:47] <ASULutzy> _Bluey__: Sure, can you plug in USB mice and stuff?
[19:47] <fwaokda> moog_, I'm going to try reinstalling it because it didn't work after installing this first time. said it had an invalid pointer
[19:47] <moog_> hm
[19:47] <moog_> camerongroom1: printscreen in gnome , workd for me
[19:47] <hendrixski> hhmmm
[19:48] <ASULutzy> camerongroom1: printscreen gets the whole screen alt+printscreen captures just the window with focus
[19:48] <hendrixski> Ok,  anyway, I'm off to play with firefox's screen-scraper.    This looks awesome!
[19:48] <moog_> jadestorm: do you want to install ubuntu on a powerpc computer ?
[19:48] <Besogon> How can I get my own "uid" in console?
[19:48] <mker> hendrixski, I know there's a site with indie music that you can download but I can't remember the name right now :( If you like streaming music Spotify is pretty neat, the songs are in ogg vorbis and they have instructions for Wine on the site until Linux version comes (basically just install it and it works).
[19:48] <raylu> Besogon: echo $UID
[19:48] <moog_> whoami
[19:49] <moog_> i managed to save my data from a hfs partition , and transfer it onto a NTFS one
[19:49] <moog_> this is great
[19:49] <moog_> via ubuntu live cd
[19:49] <M3nelvagor> anybody here with sound driver knowledge? or using a dell ?
[19:49] <Besogon> raylu: thanks
[19:49] <hendrixski> mker, spotify ... lemme take a look
[19:49] <raylu> !sound | M3nelvagor
[19:50] <Randal> #sdf
[19:52] <darkrubicant> hi i'm back, If I created a msdos label on the drive should that have deleted the MBR because it still reads as having Microsoft windows xp and Ubuntu on there.
[19:52] <darkrubicant> and I don't know how to work this dd command, the one you gave me n8tuser didn't work
[19:52] <The_Undisputable> it has created some files physically on my hard drive, is ths normal
[19:52] <darkrubicant> the drive I think you meant is sdb
[19:52] <darkrubicant> the drive i'm on is the one i'm using and is
[19:52] <darkrubicant> sda
[19:52] <keres> whenvever i try to play a flash video, it plays 2 seconds and then freezes.
[19:53] <darkrubicant> keres I had that problem
[19:53] <darkrubicant> remove all your flash plugins
[19:53] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: What is it you're actually trying to do?
[19:53] <keres> darkrubicant: then reinstall?
[19:53] <darkrubicant> yea keres
[19:53] <kwtm> Hi!  How do I install that thingmajig that shows the current weather of a specified location?
[19:53] <jwl007> screenlet
[19:53] <darkrubicant> ASULutzy, I'm trying to get windows xp to boot from the cd, but it gives me a blue screen with a stop error when I try, and I'm pretty sure it's because of the MBR on my sata drive.
[19:53] <ASULutzy> kwtm: Just right click on the top panel and hit add to panel and pick the weather one
[19:54] <darkrubicant> I've tried a bunch of different things to wipe it but nothing seems to be working
[19:54] <darkrubicant> I was given this command
[19:54] <keres> darkrubicant: how do you uninstall flash?
[19:54] <darkrubicant> dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda_backup bs=512 count=1
[19:54] <jwl007> kwtm, sudo apt-get install screenlets
[19:54] <darkrubicant> keres use synaptic.
[19:54] <kwtm> ASULutzy: Hm... I was hoping you wouldn't say that.  I actually have Kubuntu, not GNOME ubuntu.  Do you have the name of a program I can run?
[19:54] <keres> ij
[19:54] <johannes__> hi, im running kubuntu 8.10 and want to connect to a smb share on a vista pc, I can ping the vista pc, and scan it with umit (which says netbios-ssn port is open on the vista pc and netbios-ssn and microsoft-ds is open on my pc) but no network scanner will find the vista pc, nor can I connect typing in the ip by myself, what can I do?
[19:54] <kwtm> jwl007: Oh, screenlets?  Will try that.
[19:54] <darkrubicant> I think a more correct command is something like dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sdb....
[19:54] <ASULutzy> kwtm: gweather
[19:54] <darkrubicant> but i'm not sure how to continue from there on the dd command.
[19:55] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: can you do cat /proc/partitions
[19:55] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: from the machine
[19:55] <darkrubicant> I'll try one sec.
[19:55] <kwtm> ASULutzy: Thanks.  WIll try gweather, since KWeather seems to be another one of those half-done jobs by the KDE team that look neat but are useless.
[19:55] <ASULutzy> kwtm: Yea, that's why I'm using Gnome.
[19:55] <ays> guys, anyone here ever used Qt software?
[19:55] <darkrubicant> 4 lines going to be pasted.
[19:55] <darkrubicant>   8     0  156290904 sda
[19:55] <darkrubicant>    8     1  150207718 sda1
[19:55] <darkrubicant>    8     5    6080571 sda5
[19:55] <darkrubicant>    8    16  244198584 sdb
[19:55] <FloodBot1> darkrubicant: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:55] <ASULutzy> kwtm: Did they ever make it so you could actually use a desktop wall paper AND have icons on your desktop in KDE 4?
[19:56] <ASULutzy> kwtm: Because that was like a problem even a year after 4.0 first came out ;)
[19:56] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: Use a pastebin for it.
[19:56] <kwtm> ASULutzy: No idea.  I'm not touching KDE4 until someone reports that I don't have to tinker with it just for everyday use.  Using Kubuntu 8.04 LTS KDE 3
[19:56] <darkrubicant> sdb is the drive i'm trying to get reformatted completely even the darn fixmbr on the super grub disk didn't do it >.<
[19:56] <moog_> kde4 is ugly
[19:56] <darkrubicant> alright one moment.
[19:56] <kwtm> ASULutzy: KWeather reports dew point, humidity, visibility ... but NO TEMPERATURE!!!  (duhhh...)
[19:56] <jwl007> Lately, Ive been getting the following error on start up of ubuntu: su: Authentication information cannot be recovered.  Any ideas why I would be getting this error?
[19:56] <jeeves__> how can I configure my copt of moto4lin to see/use my Motorola V3?
[19:56] <moog_> i need to reboot
[19:57] <Neaai> I admit I haven't yet seen kde4
[19:57] <darkrubicant> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88709/
[19:57] <darkrubicant> that's the paste.
[19:57] <keres> Neaai: it's like windows vista-ish
[19:57] <darkrubicant> gparted reports the drive as being 232 GB, which is incorrect, and I think that's part of the problem
[19:57] <darkrubicant> some of the drive is being protected somehow
[19:57] <_Bluey__> ASULutzy: u still there?
[19:57] <darkrubicant> I believe at any rate
[19:58] <Neaai> keres: even when it comes to system resources ?
[19:58] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: If you really want to get rid of the partitions on /dev/sdb, do sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
[19:58] <darkrubicant> _Bluey__, ASULutzy  is answering a lot of questions at the moment, give him/her some time.
[19:58] <ChristianBill> How do you kill a process from "top"
[19:58] <darkrubicant> ASULutzy, there is nothing on that drive, so yes that would be fine.
[19:58] <keres> Neaai: no. just the interface. system resources is exactly the same as ubuntu
[19:58] <Darkfuzion1> it freezes after 39% pass and 18 errors
[19:58] <tavi----> someone say to me a software for modofy videous
[19:58] <tavi----> ?
[19:58] <jeeves__> how can I find the path to my cell phone that I have plugged in?
[19:58] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: and then just keep pushing 'd' until there's nothing left, and then push 'w' to write the changes... That'll remove all the partitions from /dev/sdb and make the data go poof
[19:58] <Neaai> keres: ah, that's nice to know.
[19:58] <darkrubicant> I'm currently on a drive just running ubuntu, so even if I nuke the other drive there's no problem.
[19:58] <Darkfuzion1> in memtest
[19:58] <ASULutzy> _Bluey__: Yea, I'm here
[19:58] <darkrubicant> ASULutzy, will that also clear the mbr?
[19:58] <_Bluey__> darkrubicant: i m sorry, he had asked me for a screenshot
[19:59] <cryptnix> debian > ubuntu
[19:59] <_Bluey__> ASULutzy: heres the screenshot http://picpaste.com/Screenshot1.jpg
[19:59] <darkrubicant> _Bluey__, no problem just trying to give ASULutzy sometime :)
[19:59] <keres> darkrubicant: do i want flashplugin-nonfree?
[19:59] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: Well first, what does sudo fdisk -l say
[19:59] <darkrubicant> keres, install the adobe flash plugin it works fine.
[19:59] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: oh, there are no partitions on /dev/sdb
[19:59] <darkrubicant> ASULutzy, one moment.
[19:59] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: :)
[19:59] <cryptnix> hmm fail
[19:59] <darkrubicant> yea
[19:59] <Darkfuzion1> who was hwlping me out ant told me to do a memtest???
[20:00] <keres> darkrubicant: is that nonfree or some other package?
[20:00] <darkrubicant> it's free.
[20:00] <Neaai> keres: as for flash, if you can do with the free options, better. If those don't work, then turn to the non-free.
[20:00] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: Installing Windows after another OS exists is suck... for what it's worth, last time I reinstalled Windows, I had to, get this, unplug EVERY drive other than the one I was installing Windows to
[20:00] <darkrubicant> ASULutzy, sounds like I might need to do that
[20:00] <ASULutzy> _Bluey__: That says it sees the device just fine?
[20:00] <Darkfuzion1> Asulutzy: it showed up 18 errors and froze in memtest
[20:00] <darkrubicant> I was going to swear at microsoft just then, but I don't know the repricussions in this channel so I wont.
[20:00] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: I know it sounds crazy, but give it a try
[20:00] <ASULutzy> Darkfuzion1: Your memory is hosed
[20:00] <keres> Neaai: what is the package name for flash?
[20:01] <ASULutzy> Darkfuzion1: Buy new memory
[20:01] <darkrubicant> yea because the blue screen it's giving me is crazy, and if I do that...
[20:01] <darkrubicant> ASULutzy, If this works I love you, in a non gay way.
[20:01] <Scunizi_> keres: it'll say "non-free" in the description
[20:01] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: It's cool, I don't hate on the gays ;)
[20:01] <darkrubicant> oh and when I did sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
[20:01] <_Bluey__> ASULutzy: yes but when i switch the virtual machine on and turn itunes and plug the ipod in, the itunes is unresponsive
[20:01] <darkrubicant> it gave me crap about it being larger than 1024 sectors
[20:01] <keres> thanks
[20:01] <darkrubicant> and then ask me for a prompt
[20:02] <cryptnix> shesh ... rohil mibbit is sweet.
[20:02] <ASULutzy> _Bluey__: does the device show up in My Computer?
[20:02] <Neaai> keres: flashplugin-nonfree
[20:02] <rohil> Hi, I am getting lots of failed attempts at installing from terminal using apt-get. I am on 7.04. Is that the reason ?
[20:02] <_Bluey__> ASULutzy: no :(
[20:02] <keres> ok
[20:02] <SpArTaKo> alguien sabe leer español?
[20:02] <tavi----> someone say to me a professional software for modify videous?
[20:02] <darkrubicant> yea fdisk doesn't see a partition, so what i'll try doing is unplugging the ide drive and getting the sata working.
[20:02] <jimjimhim> Is anyone good with sound?  I have no sound on my machine and I just installed SB Audigy SE on Ubuntu 8.10
[20:02] <darkrubicant> HOpe this works!!
[20:02] <Scunizi_> _Bluey__: are you using virtual box?
[20:02] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: Eh, if there are no partitions there whatever... If you want to install Windows to /dev/sdb, you could preformat it with NTFS or something via fdisk, then mkfs it to NTFS, and then unplug the other drives while trying to install.... That's basically what I had to do
[20:03] <darkrubicant> jimjimhim, You'll need to get the oss drivers working
[20:03] <darkrubicant> alsa wont work
[20:03] <Neaai> tavi----: check out cinerrela (i think it's called that way). they say it's very good.
[20:03] <_Bluey__> Scunizi_: yes
[20:03] <johannes__> how can I check what version of samba is installed on my pc?
[20:03] <darkrubicant> ASULutzy, I could do that from gparted.
[20:03] <darkrubicant> even
[20:03] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: Yea sure that works
[20:03] <_Bluey__> Scunizi_: sun xvm virtualbox ver 2.0.6
[20:03] <darkrubicant> alright I'll giver.  Thanks hopefully the next time you see me I'll be praising you, and helping in here with things other than MBR's >.<
[20:03] <jimjimhim> darkrubicant, how?
[20:04] <Scunizi_> _Bluey__: at the bottom right of the windows vm window you'll see some icons. the one that looks like a "usb plug" click that and see if your ipod is listed there
[20:04] <darkrubicant> jim, I'll get you a link one sec.
[20:04] <mon^rch> can somebody help me setup my webcam?
[20:04] <ASULutzy> _Bluey__, Scunizi_: Oh, I just assumed you were actually connecting the device.
[20:04] <_Bluey__> Scunizi_: it is listed but its greyed out
[20:04] <darkrubicant> http://jamestombs.co.uk/2008-05-05/getting-creative-x-fi-to-work-in-ubuntu-hardy-heron-8/608
[20:04] <Scunizi_> _Bluey__: are you a member of the vbox group?
[20:04] <darkrubicant> that applies to essentially all creative cards jimjimhim hope that helps.
[20:04] <darkrubicant> gotta go
[20:04] <_Bluey__> how do i check that?
[20:04] <darkrubicant> thanks again ASULutzy
[20:05] <_Bluey__> Scunizi_: how do i check that?
[20:05] <Scunizi_> _Bluey__: System>Admin>Group>virtual box
[20:05] <jimjimhim> darkrubicant  How do I do that?
[20:06] <Scunizi_> none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=125,devmode=664 0 0
[20:06] <raylu> Scunizi_: run "groups" in a termianl
[20:06] <raylu> *terminal
[20:07] <Scunizi_> _Bluey__: you also need to add the following line in /etc/fstab.. none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=125,devmode=664 0 0
[20:07] <_Bluey__> Scunizi_: there was only 2 things "root" and "bluey" in the properties box. i ticked against bluey and saved
[20:07] <ASULutzy> Scunizi_, _Bluey__: That's only if 125 is actually the correct groupid for vboxusers for him, it may not be
[20:07] <mithraic> If I add a second PCI graphics card, will I be able to extend my desktop over the additional monitors?
[20:07] <Scunizi_> _Bluey__: then in a terminal type ... grep vboxusers /etc/group to get the righ devgid number to put in that line in fstab
[20:07] <_Bluey__> Scunizi_: i have done the ftab part
[20:07] <ASULutzy> _Bluey__: If you weren't a member of the group and now you are, all you'll have to do is log out and back in, and it should work now
[20:08] <raylu> mithraic: what graphics cards
[20:08] <Scunizi_> *right
[20:08] <mithraic> Or is that only likely to work with multiple displays from the same card>?
[20:08] <mithraic> raylu: Am looking at options.
[20:08] <_Bluey__> lemme go check that eral quick
[20:08] <ASULutzy> _Bluey__: But you need to make sure that vboxusers' gid is 125
[20:08] <raylu> mithraic: um... how are you going to plug two monitors into the same graphics card?
[20:08] <coeus82> can someone help me get my mouse detected?
[20:08] <_Bluey__> i will reboot just for good measures
[20:08] <mithraic> one with two outputs.
[20:08] <coeus82> I'm on ubuntu 8.10 and I can't seem to get HAL to recognize my mouse
[20:08] <mithraic> same as i'm doing now :)
[20:08] <raylu> mithraic: oh. then of course, that's preferred
[20:08] <ASULutzy> _Bluey__: You don't hav to reboot
[20:08] <ASULutzy> ugh.
[20:08] <mithraic> the thing is, I want three monitors.
[20:09] <raylu> mithraic: it sounded like you had one with one atm
[20:09] <mithraic> ah, gotcha.
[20:09] <raylu> mithraic: then yes, it's possible, though not very easy
[20:09] <mithraic> no, the issue now is that the card is ATI, and damn if I can get rotation to work.
[20:09] <fudpucker> looks like one of the updates pwned my graphics.  i did a fresh install of 8.1 today.  then later this afternoon, i decided to do the updates, now when i drag windows between my 2 displays, i see this line, and it moves in conjunction with the window.....anyideas how to fix this
[20:09] <raylu> mithraic: though the most trouble involves dynamically reconfiguring it. setting it up once and leaving it there forever is easy
[20:09] <Scunizi_> _Bluey__: ASULutzy sometimes you have to reboot.. went round and round trying to restart the right systems yesterday with someone and nothing worked until reboot
[20:09] <mithraic> oh, i don't mind, then.
[20:09] <raylu> mithraic: i do :( laptop
[20:09] <mithraic> i am right in my impression that people have more success with rotation under nvidia cards, yes?
[20:10] <ASULutzy> Scunizi_: You have to reboot sometimes, but not when all you did was add yourself to a new group.. He could have just logged out and back in for that one.
[20:10] <raylu> mithraic: i wouldn't know
[20:10] <ASULutzy> mithraic: If you are asking, "Does fglrx mostly suck?" then the answer is yes
[20:10] <seseberg> Hi guys, does anyone have any idea where I could find a good driver for my Dlink DWL-G122? (Ubuntu 8.10)
[20:10] <mithraic> ASULutzy: fair 'nuff :)
[20:10] <hosoka1> hello
[20:10] <zakk> could someone take a look at this and suggest a solution: http://pastebin.com/m6c2b580
[20:10] <hosoka1> first timer here :-)
[20:11] <Scunizi_> ASULutzy: yes that's true.. it's the fstab line that typically gets messed up
[20:11] <raylu> zakk: why do you need that package?
[20:11] <zakk> raylu: which one?
[20:11] <raylu> zakk: -dev
[20:11] <zakk> raylu: because I compile gl programs?
[20:11] <odin> in
[20:12] <odin> hello
[20:12] <raylu> zakk: oh. sounds like a packaging error :P i'd report it as a bug
[20:12] <Guest85418> how do i format anyone
[20:12] <seseberg> Hi guys, does anyone have any idea where I could find a good driver for my Dlink DWL-G122? (Ubuntu 8.10)
[20:12] <raylu> seseberg: ndiswrapper, i believe
[20:12] <ASULutzy> Guest85418: What are you trying to format?
[20:13] <Guest85418> HARD DRIVE
[20:13] <raylu> ...win.
[20:13] <Guest85418> TO MUCH GB
[20:13] <ASULutzy> Guest85418: lol.
[20:13] <seseberg> the built in one keeps on resetting
[20:13] <Jordan_U> seseberg, Is it usb or pci?
[20:13] <seseberg> and I just hate it
[20:13] <seseberg> usb
[20:13] <seseberg> ralink chipset I believe
[20:13] <seseberg> I searched throughout linux-drivers.org
[20:13] <seseberg> but it was hard finding something
[20:13] <robbmunson> Guest85418: and what file system does it use?
[20:14] <Guest85418> does anyone know how to clear a comp down using ubuntu then i can reload
[20:14] <seseberg> raylu, ndiswrapper is built-in ubuntu 8.10, right? I'm a bit of a n00b
[20:14] <raylu> seseberg: no
[20:14] <seseberg> ooooooops
[20:14] <camerongroom1> does anyone know a program that is similar to flash for ubuntu? (out puts swf files)
[20:14] <Guest85418> cant get 810
[20:14] <Jordan_U> zakk, Have you tried "sudo apt-get -f install" ?
[20:14] <der|kunstler> I would like to add a custom syntax highlight using gedit, can somebody help me ?
[20:14] <hosoka1> Is there anyone here who has experience with, for example, when opening a page and then you see instead of the video picture a fragment of a "play" character ? Previously, I immediately got the video image to see and just click on it and played that ofcourse. Someone experience this before en can tell me what goes wrong here?
[20:15] <seseberg> raylu, can I find it in the synaptic package manager?
[20:15] <zakk> Jordan_U: it tells me to dpkg --configure -a
[20:15] <ASULutzy> zakk: I would do sudo apt-get -f install myself
[20:15] <raylu> seseberg: um... it's there. ndiswrapper-common
[20:15] <raylu> !ndiswrapper | seseberg
[20:15] <bluey> Scunizi_: i rebooted still no joy
[20:15] <zleap1> is anyone using openoffice 3.0
[20:15] <robbmunson> Guest85418: we are trying to help you, but you aren't giving us enough information to help buddy. :)
[20:15] <zakk> ASULutzy: yeah I tried that
[20:15] <seseberg> yeah, by the way, how do I install openoffice 3, after downloading the tar.gz?
[20:16] <fryguy> seseberg: untar it and read the README
[20:16] <raylu> seseberg: why can't you install from the repositories?
[20:16] <raylu> zleap1: yes, why?
[20:16] <zleap1> not sure, i am using 2.4 still
[20:16] <fryguy> seseberg: and see if it has an INSTALL file
[20:16] <Guest85418> ok i want a clean comp how do i do it with ubuntu or just in general
[20:16] <zleap1> in calc, does it come up with a dialog box when you delete cell data
[20:17] <Neaai> seseberg: check on this:    http://www.atlink.it/~conti/articles/d-link-dwl-g122-and-linux/
[20:17] <fryguy> Guest85418: define "clean comp"
[20:17] <zleap1> as one of our members on #dclug is asking
[20:17] <Jordan_U> zakk, How did you get to this point? Did you just try to install the package with apt?
[20:17] <ASULutzy> bluey: You need to make sure you are in vboxusers, and that the line in /etc/fstab is correct (and that the gid you have there is actually the correct gid of the group vboxusers) then once you do that, you should just create the filter in settings for VBox that says like, "Allow everything" then you the usb icon in the bottom right of VBox should allow you to right click on it
[20:17] <seseberg> dude!!!! I love you!!!!!!!!!!
[20:17] <seseberg> :))
[20:17] <zakk> Jordan_U: I've been using upgrade manager and synaptic
[20:17] <Scunizi_> _Bluey__: you might want to head over to #vbox.. they are pretty helpful there and might be able to diagnose what's going on.
[20:17] <jorvis> how can I check if I'm getting hardware acc. video after a new install?
[20:17] <_Bluey__> thank you
[20:18] <Jordan_U> jorvis, glxinfo | grep direct
[20:18] <Guest85418> how do i format anyone
[20:18] <jorvis> Jordan_U - that's what I thought - it says 'Yes'
[20:18] <_Bluey__> Scunizi_: ASULutzy : thank you i will try my luck at #vbox
[20:18] <fryguy> Guest85418: what do you want to format to? do you want a wiped hard drive? do you want a linux filesystem, what do you want?
[20:18] <seseberg> guest 85418
[20:18] <seseberg> go to www.ntfs.com
[20:18] <Scunizi_> _Bluey__: wait.. are you using the version from vbox or the repos?
[20:18] <seseberg> and download the 30 day trial
[20:18] <jorvis> Jordan_U: but that grep also catches: "OpenGL rendere string: Software rasterizer"
[20:18] <FloodBot1> seseberg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:18] <solid_liq> !ping
[20:18] <Guest85418> a wipe for starters
[20:18] <seseberg> Windows PE based bootable cd
[20:19] <ASULutzy> Scunizi_: No, he's not using the OSE
[20:19] <seseberg> that has partitioning software included
[20:19] <Guest85418> FRYGUY awipe first
[20:19] <_Bluey__> Scunizi_: vbox
[20:19] <raylu> seseberg: that's really not what he needs
[20:19] <fryguy> Guest85418: use darik's boot and nuke
[20:19] <Scunizi_> ASULutzy: ah ok.. hadn't asked so I didn't know.
[20:19] <robbmunson> fryguy: ive been trying to get that out of him for a while now, almost like pulling teeth :/
[20:19] <fryguy> Guest85418: there's no reason to wipe first, but if you are convinced you need to, use that
[20:19] <Scunizi_> _Bluey__: thanks.. didn't know.
[20:19] <Guest85418> lol orry
[20:19] <Guest85418> how do i do that
[20:19] <Neaai> seseberg: your mileage may vary though. But that article sheds a lot of light on your problem.
[20:19] <ASULutzy> Guest85418: I guess the question is. Do you want to use Windows or Ubuntu? Because what you format the drive to matters
[20:20] <Guest85418> ubuntu i suppose
[20:20] <seseberg> you can always format it to raw
[20:20] <seseberg> I mean
[20:20] <seseberg> delete the existing partitions.....
[20:20] <ASULutzy> Guest85418: Then you don't need to "wipe it" just pop in the live-cd and tell it to use the entire disk.
[20:20] <fryguy> Guest85418: if you want to install ubuntu, the put in the installation disk and install it. it will walk you through partitioning and wipe everything for you, if that's what you want
[20:20] <Guest85418> i have an asus linux system with ubuntu loaded  over the top
[20:20] <Vooloo> I've had windows XP disc crash, is it possible to create a rescue disc with ubuntu or other linux distro where I can get the files from the harddrive that are still readable?
[20:21] <fryguy> Vooloo: just use the livecd
[20:21] <Guest85418> how much gb does ubuntu use
[20:21] <Neaai> Vooloo: yes. use the install/liveCD and access the hard drive from there.
[20:21] <Sensae> I just installed with the Kubuntu 8.10 disc, restarted. Grub error 17? Why would the installer fail to properly set up grub?
[20:21] <ASULutzy> Guest85418: Do you have an eeepc?
[20:21] <ASULutzy> Guest85418: If you have an eeepc there's a specific Ubuntu distro for the eeepc
[20:21] <fryguy> Guest85418: depends on what you install, a default full featured install is 3-4 gigabytes.  I doubt anybody in this channel is over 10gigabytes
[20:21] <Vooloo> and then what? is it hard to mount the NTFS partitions? how do I transfer files from there to another format?
[20:22] <fryguy> Vooloo: you just navigate to the disk and use it, it will mount for your automatically
[20:22] <fryguy> Vooloo: just drag and drop to wherever you want
[20:22] <Neaai> Vooloo: it's not hard at all. doubleclicking does the trick, and for the transfer, drag-n-drop does the other trick.
[20:22] <Guest85418> im using a asus netbook its only 8gb
[20:22] <Guest85418> lol
[20:23] <ASULutzy> Guest85418: Then google ubuntu eeepc
[20:23] <fryguy> Guest85418: 8gb is plenty for most ubuntu installs
[20:23] <ASULutzy> Guest85418: That might be better for you
[20:23] <Guest85418> whats on it asultzy
[20:23] <Guest85418> is it the same
[20:23] <fryguy> Guest85418: it has better driver support
[20:23] <ASULutzy> Guest85418: http://www.ubuntu-eee.com/ it's just optimized for a small screen, better driver support, the window manager is easier to use
[20:23] <Guest85418> nice can u give me the link
[20:24] <Neaai> Vooloo: basically, stick an usb drive in place, insert the livecd in the drive, reboot, and start transfering once you're in the live environment.
[20:24] <Vooloo> ah okay, thanks
[20:24] <Guest85418> i c thats why i was getting flickering
[20:24] <goog> Hey People! Is it normal, that under Ubuntu8.04 I cannot use CTRL+ALT+F1 to switch to that terminal? (is terminal the right term?)
[20:24] <fryguy> goog: no it's not normal
[20:24] <seseberg> does ubuntu have like a full device manager
[20:24] <Guest85418> 200mb short of 8.10
[20:24] <seseberg> like windows does?
[20:24] <Neaai> goog: and ctrl-alt-f2  ?
[20:25] <goog> Neaai: nothing too
[20:25] <fryguy> seseberg: not like windows, no
[20:25] <Guest85418> yes its terminal
[20:25] <seseberg> damn
[20:25] <goog> any other way to get to the other terminals?
[20:25] <fryguy> goog: no
[20:25] <seseberg> why does everything need to be so command-lineish in ubuntu..........
[20:25] <Neaai> goog: well... you could intentionally kill X and see what happens.
[20:25] <fryguy> seseberg: because that's how the system was originally built. X11 was an afterthought.
[20:25] <goog> any way to find out what blocks CTRL+ALT+Fx?
[20:25] <amine> Hello, I have a few questions about ubuntu - does it use the latest kernel or does it backport security patches to an old stable one? Also, do the repositories have cutting-edge releases or just old stable ones? (e.g. a new version of eclipse comes out, does it get released on the repositories after a few days or after a few weeks when deemed stable/secure)?
[20:25] <fryguy> seseberg: and doing things with the command line is almost always faster and easier, so it's the way people tend to do it
[20:26] <soho> goog; no it's not normal
[20:26] <Jordan_U> goog, Try fn+ctrl+alt+F1 ( in case your function keys controll something like screen brightness by default rather than acting as function keys )
[20:26] <seseberg> well...... it just ain't the average person's style u know....
[20:26] <soho> i have no idea except the keys
[20:26] <darkrubicant> ok unfortunately unhooking the ide drive didn't change anything.
[20:26] <fryguy> seseberg: no
[20:26] <darkrubicant> Still got a stop error, this time I recorded it.
[20:26] <seseberg> darjubicant, maybe you have BAD sectors on your hard drive
[20:27] <seseberg> just my 2 cents
[20:27] <fwaokda> Does anyone here know how I could monitor data sent to and from a usb device I connect to ubuntu?
[20:27] <ASULutzy> seseberg: I'm sure you can find a GUI app that acts like device manager. I think SuSE has one installed by default doesn't it?
[20:27] <goog> Jordan_U: lol, that send my notebook into suspend mode :-)
[20:27] <darkrubicant> ALSO why is grub saying that the windows and ubuntu boot loaders are located on a partition that no longer exists, it's saying they are on /dev/sdb2 fdisk doesn't report these as being there...
[20:27] <seseberg> I've never tried openSUSE
[20:27] <goog> because fn+F1 is suspend.
[20:27] <goog> now i dont have a mouse cursor anymore :-(
[20:27] <goog> any way to get it back?
[20:27] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: You can use update-grub to fix that I think, darkrubicant if you're installing to a SATA drive, are you doing a slipstream install, or do you have the drivers?
[20:27] <Neaai> goog: maybe there's a difference between ALT and ALT-Gr  ?  (I have an ancient keyb that doesn't have alt-gr and it's still the best of all)
[20:28] <_Bluey__> Scunizi_: hey, what was that non /proc/bus/usb  usbfs line u asked to add ??
[20:28] <Necrosan_> Any better burning software than GAY ASS brasero?
[20:28] <darkrubicant> I'm using the windows xp disc
[20:28] <fryguy> Necrosan_: k3b
[20:28] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: Because iirc, you need to do that whole "push F6" thing while doing a windows install if you're installing to a SATA drive
[20:28] <darkrubicant> what is a slipstream install sorry
[20:28] <amine> goog, try ctrl-alt-del to restart X, and then before you log into your account try ctrl-alt-f2/f3/f4 for terminals
[20:28] <goog> Neaai: altGR doesnt work either
[20:28] <goog> amine: that will probably work
[20:28] <Necrosan_> oh it worked
[20:28] <Neaai> goog: you're using that system right now ?
[20:28] <fryguy> goog: you have an altGR key on your keyboard?
[20:28] <Necrosan_> i retract my statement
[20:28] <goog> Neaai: yes
[20:28] <goog> fryguy: yes, tried it, makes no difference.
[20:29] <seseberg> why am I wasting my time with ubuntu when I have a Vista license, I just don't know......... sorry guys, I think it's just because I received an original cd and I wanted to try it out
[20:29] <seseberg> sorry for bothering you....
[20:29] <seseberg> buhbye
[20:29] <Necrosan_> BRASERO FOR LIFE!!!
[20:29] <goog> I wanted to see the other terminals because i noticed on terminal it constantly outputs some error message. Something like "connect debounce faild. port 6 disabled."
[20:29] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: You can't install XP to SATA without drivers generally, you can either create an XP slipstream disc (which automatically loads the drivers) or you can mash F6 when it prompts you to and put a floppy in with the drivers
[20:29] <Neaai> goog: well kill X with ctrl-alt-bkspc at least to see whether you can get the terminals after X reloads.
[20:29] <goog> Neaai: no, it has been like this for days.
[20:29] <hischild> ASULutzy, you can, i've done it  dozens of time .
[20:29] <darkrubicant> how would the xp disc not have sata drivers for a western digital device, I thought about that, and then told myself no microsoft can't be that stupid
[20:30] <hischild> ASULutzy, without drivers, slipstreaming or anything
[20:30] <darkrubicant> it loads all kinds of sata drivers, but not western digital ones.
[20:30] <ASULutzy> hischild: It dpeends
[20:30] <fryguy> ASULutzy: that is only the case if you have raid support or ahci enabled in the bios, if neither of these are enabled then it will install just fine with no extra drivers
[20:30] <Neaai> goog: and when you do:  sudo "/etc/init.d/gdm stop"  can you get the terminals ?
[20:30] <darkrubicant> ASULutzy, I swear to god, I've installed it without sata drivers before...
[20:30] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant, fryguy: Yea, what fryguy said
[20:30] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: I dunno, WIndows isn't really my speciality, could try joining #windows ;)
[20:31] <goog> Neaai: i guess so. I cant try right now, because then irssi goes to hell.
[20:31] <jimjimhim> Can anyone help me with my sound problem.  I am trying to install a Sound Blaster Audigy SE and I get no sound =(
[20:31] <Neaai> goog: don't be lazy to reconnect :p
[20:31] <darkrubicant> well the stop error I'm getting says it could be from a bootsector virus, which shouldn't be possible, and that should only be causing intermittent loads not a stop error everytime I try to run the setup disc.
[20:31] <darkrubicant> yea ASULutzy
[20:31] <goog> Neaai: ok.... But first i will google for "connect debounce failed"
[20:31] <Neaai> goog: yeap, suit yourself
[20:32] <Jordan_U> goog, screen + irssi = nirvana
[20:32] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: did you try "helping" windows out? use fdisk to set the partitions up correctly and then mkfs it to NTFS?
[20:32] <Neaai> Jordan_U: now I feel enlightenend too
[20:32] <onetinsoldier> hi all
[20:33] <Neaai> 'lo onetinsoldier
[20:33] <onetinsoldier> :-)
[20:33] <fryguy> .
[20:33] <Guest85418> does anyone know about formatting before an iso install of ubuntu-eee 8.04
[20:34] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: you ever get ubunutu on that troublesome system?
[20:34] <fryguy> Guest85418: you've already asked and been answered, multiple times. do you have a new question?
[20:34] <fryguy> onetinsoldier: no
[20:34] <karn`> ok im tryin to install xubuntu ibex and it locks up and the moniter goes blank while its loading the install, i checked the integrity and did a mem test and it seems to all be good....
[20:34] <fryguy> onetinsoldier: well yes, it's installed and freezes on boot now
[20:34] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: i see
[20:34] <onetinsoldier> oh
[20:34] <Guest85418> if i understood do u think i would re ask with a new find
[20:34] <ASULutzy> Guest85418: For the 10th time, you don't have to format. Just put the CD/USB stick in, and tell it to use the whole disk.
[20:34] <n2diy> can I connect to two IRC servers at the same time?
[20:35] <mon^rch> does anyone know how to setup a MS Lifecam VX-6000?
[20:35] <fryguy> n2diy: yes
[20:35] <SpArTaKo> alguien habla español
[20:35] <SZ> Can somebody tell me how to put background color of the text of the icons permanently (not when they are selected) ?
[20:35] <karn`> anyone know why it would do taht?
[20:35] <Pici> !es | SpArTaKo
[20:35] <n2diy> fryguy, cool, how would I connect to irc.gnome.org?
[20:35] <norbert-> question: is anyone here using voipbuster with linphone?
[20:35] <Sensae> I just installed with the Kubuntu 8.10 disc, restarted. Grub error 17? Why would the installer fail to properly set up grub?
[20:35] <SZ> SparTaKo yo
[20:35] <fryguy> n2diy: /connect irc.gnome.org
[20:35] <_Zeus_> When I try to install nvidia-glx-180, it wants to remove all xserver packages.  why?
[20:35] <SpArTaKo> sz
[20:35] <SZ> SpArTaKo digame
[20:35] <SpArTaKo> tengo un problema puedo instalar el supergrub en usb?
[20:35] <n2diy> fryguy, so simple, thanks.
[20:36] <SpArTaKo> es que resulta que instale el ubuntu en una usb de 16 gigas usando el live y una maquina que no es mia
[20:36] <ASULutzy> !es > SpArTaKo
[20:36] <Amun> my uncle, who has used windows all his pc life, has got hit with a ruthless spyware. i talked him into trying ubuntu out. whats the best way to transition him? he doesnt play any games that i know of, and mainly uses his pc for photos (google's picassa, luckily). any ideas?
[20:36] <cmoijuju> Zeus, it wat to delete for install a version clean
[20:36] <SpArTaKo> y la he  regado de forma que escribi el mrb del disco de la maquina  que no es mia
[20:36] <jimjimhim> I am working to get my Sound Blaster Audgy SE installed but I  still cant get it workin
[20:36] <karn`> Slart, you still around?
[20:36] <Sensae> Why would I get grub error 17?
[20:36] <jimjimhim> Anyone good with soundcards?
[20:36] <jimjimhim> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88728/
[20:36] <fryguy> Amun: what kind of answer are you expecting?  You either install ubuntu or you don't.  Can you be more specific about what you want?
[20:36] <JonathanD> Anyone know how I can get firefox on ubuntu 8.10 working with websense?
[20:37] <SZ> Can somebody tell me how to put background color of the text of the icons permanently (not when they are selected) ?
[20:37] <ASULutzy> Amun: It's not like using firefox on Ubuntu is massively different than using IE in Windows
[20:37] <fryguy> SZ: change your desktop background color
[20:37] <Neaai> JonathanD: how would IE work differently with websense ?
[20:37] <SZ> SpArTaKo perdoname, yo no se.
[20:37] <JonathanD> Websense here is tied to active directory, I have valid credentials for it, but it doesn't prompt like a typical proxy.
[20:37] <n2diy> fryguy, didn't work?
[20:37] <fryguy> SZ:  in the appearance menu
[20:37] <fryguy> n2diy: works for me, no idea
[20:37] <SZ> fryguy, I tried nothing
[20:37] <Amun> fryguy: whats the best transition. like, how should i get him accustomed to it. i can't just shove it down his throat....
[20:37] <SZ> I have wallpaper
[20:37] <ASULutzy> Sensae: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[20:38] <fryguy> Amun: no idea what you mean
[20:38] <JonathanD> Neaai: IE and FF both work on windows. websense relies (I believe) on the active directory login status of the user on the machine.
[20:38] <SZ> I don't want desktop color
[20:38] <Amun> windows to ubuntu is different.
[20:38] <onetinsoldier> _Zeus_: use 'aptitude' to find out why... open up aptitude in a terminal. search for the nvidia-glx-180 package and when it's highlight, press your '+' key.  tell me if you have more questions when you've gotten that far
[20:38] <SZ> I have some light wallpaper, and I can't see the icons
[20:38] <Neaai> JonathanD: yes, but does IE use Active Directory? you're suggesting it does.
[20:38] <SZ> the icon text
[20:38] <Jordan_U> Amun, Put two huge icons on thee desktop, one for firefox and one for picasa
[20:39] <JonathanD> Neaai: IE can use AD. I don't think it is in this case (otherwise I Should be getting a proxy login prompt on FF)
[20:39] <JonathanD> Neaai: I suspect websense actually checks if the machine the request is coming from is logged into AD>
[20:39] <Pici> JonathanD: Indeed, thats exactly what happens.
[20:40] <fryguy> so then log your machine into AD
[20:40] <neo644> I need help running wxSand 4.4 on Ubuntu. Whenever I run it, I get: ./fsg-4.4: error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. I have libexpat1 installed.
[20:40] <JonathanD> Pici: any idea how I can get ubuntu to qualify?
[20:40] <JonathanD> fryguy: I tried.
[20:40] <elbac> When I try to instal Ubuntu on my computer (it has 7.10 on it now) run I run the cd it hangs after I select install to harddrive.  Any ideas? It's a Thinkpad T60
[20:40] <ASULutzy> Amun: I think you are overestimating the trickiness of Ubuntu. The fiance's eeepc has Ubuntu installed and she's not computer savvy whatsoever and she's able to navigate around just fine, the thing tells you when you need updates, it places all the tools you'd expect in logical places in the menu, etc.
[20:40] <Neaai> JonathanD: you want to use ubuntu then to replace windows in a network that uses AD ?
[20:41] <JonathanD> I tried following this. http://anothersysadmin.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/howto-active-directory-authentication-in-ubuntu-804/
[20:41] <cmoijuju> elbac, your computer boot or not?
[20:41] <JonathanD> Neaai: no, I want to use ubuntu on a second desktop to suplement my windows machine.
[20:41] <JonathanD> on a network that uses AD.
[20:41] <elbac> It boots with the currently installed version, however when I try to install it fresh it hangs at "Loading" after I select install to harddrive (or boot live for that matter)
[20:42] <Pici> JonathanD: I've never gotten my linux computer at work to properly work on our websense controlled internet access. I'm not sure if authenticating to AD will do it for a Linux machine.
[20:42] <fwaokda> I'm getting this error ( fuse: bad mount point `/media/mtp': No such file or directory )  when doing this in  terminal ( sudo mtpfs /media/mtp -o allow_other ) anyone know why? how I can resolve this?
[20:42] <JonathanD> Pici: thats a shame :(
[20:42] <Pici> JonathanD: I didn't spend that much time on it though.
[20:42] <fryguy> fwaokda: sudo mkdir /media/mtp
[20:42] <ASULutzy> fwaokda: sudo mkdir /media/mtp
[20:42] <JonathanD> Pici: I have other means to get around it, but I'd rather do it correctly.
[20:42] <Pici> JonathanD: Perhaps you can tunnel your traffic through your Windows PC?
[20:43] <cmoijuju> elbac, you have just ubuntu on your computer or it's un multi boot?
[20:43] <mker>  The control bar in VLC when going full screen has disappeared for me and I don't know if I did it somehow. Is there a setting to activate it again?
[20:43] <JonathanD> Pici: I have full rights to the websense admin console, if I going that route I'll exlude the IP.
[20:43] <elbac> cmoijuju, just ubuntu
[20:43] <cmoijuju> elbac, you have a problem with your driver
[20:44] <newlongtestname> I'm using Ubuntu server 8.0.4 without a GUI, just command line, and I've been trying to figure out how to change the resolution, I've looked for 2 hours with no answers...any pointers?  I want to change the number of rows and columns of text that appear upon boot...
[20:44] <cmoijuju> elbac, do you try in safe mode?
[20:44] <MegafEee> hi, what is linux?
[20:44] <Pici> JonathanD: Oh, that works. iirc, there is also a client application that can run on windows computers if they are not on AD.  I didn't have access to that file, but perhaps that can run under wine.  I don't think there is a linux native binary for it.
[20:44] <elbac> cmoijuju, let me try to figure out how to boot into safe mode
[20:44] <Sensae> I fired up grub. Typing "find /boot/grub/stage1" returns Error 15: File not found. Typing root (hd0,1) returns error 21: Selected disk does not exist. What's going on here?
[20:44] <Neaai> JonathanD: And what about adding a second ethernet to the windows machine, do NAT from it and feed the connection to your linux? This is just an idea though.
[20:44] <hischild> !linux | MegafEee
[20:44] <Jordan_U> elbac, You can try using the alternate install CD but there is a chance that you will have the same problem with the installed system that you are having with the LiveCD
[20:45] <Guest58326> km
[20:45] <JonathanD> Neaai: I can't really do that. Long term, I'm exploring this as the possibility of deploying linux to some folks here. Websense is going to stick around though, so I need to find a broadly deployable way to do this.
[20:45] <fwaokda> thanks fryguy , ASULutzy
[20:45] <elbac> Jordan_U, I just tried the CD in another ThinkPad T60, and the same thinghappened (not the best test) but I'm going to burn a new CD...
[20:45] <Sensae> Why wouldn't grub be able to see any of my drives?
[20:45] <cmoijuju> elbac, in my opinion you have a component which loose his driver
[20:45] <excitatory> how can one reinstall a package AND automatically reinstall its dependencies?  I've scoured the net and forums.. doesn't seem possible
[20:46] <Guest59141> LIST
[20:46] <ASULutzy> excitatory: If you use apt-get or aptitude or synaptic to install something it'll automatically bring down the dependencies with it
[20:46] <SOURdiesel> i just installed intrepid on my ideapad y530.  when i open gparted it reads sda1 as using 7.1GiB and 1.1GiB of swap.  is this correct?
[20:46] <n2diy> fryguy, the command here was /server
[20:46] <SOURdiesel> oops 11.1GiB of swap
[20:47] <ASULutzy> SOURdiesel: You probably don't need 11 GiB of swap space
[20:47] <Neaai> JonathanD: I'm affraid you'd want to check the openLDAP related documentation. Which is overly complicated for my tastes.
[20:47] <JonathanD> Pici: I have to wonder if there isn't another way to authenticate.
[20:47] <Jordan_U> excitatory, Right now, if you run "sudo apt-get -f install" do you get any message about any packages  that aren't needed?
[20:47] <excitatory> ASULutzy, no, i'm trying to REINSTALL.. i'm making a custom apt repository dvd for my friend's offline install.. i want to install amarok, but i need apt to download its deps so that it will have those too.
[20:47] <JonathanD> Neaai: well, I'm already logging into ubuntu using an AD account. This part works.
[20:47] <SOURdiesel> ASULutzy: i know.  but i'm trying to figure out why it set that partition so large?
[20:48] <JonathanD> and in fact my desktop is showing up in AD
[20:48] <ASULutzy> SOURdiesel: I never let it do anything auto, better to set them by hand IMO
[20:48] <masterspry> hey good day.
[20:48] <excitatory> Jordan_U, that's not what i'm trying to do.. read a few lines up
[20:48] <Neaai> JonathanD: I'd guess you're even more than halfway there to what you want to achive.
[20:48] <marge> I seem to have worong sound card driver loaded.  How can I change the module that is loaded?
[20:48] <JonathanD> Neaai: one would think...
[20:48] <marge> modules.conf or... ?
[20:48] <masterspry> i have upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10 and somehow my flashplayer ins't working.
[20:48] <JonathanD> but I still get blocked by websense ;)
[20:49] <marge> lsmod
[20:49] <SOURdiesel> ASULutzy: why would it read the sda1 partition as using 7.1GiB?
[20:49] <masterspry> i have tried many methods but somehow Firefox is not dectecting it or i don't know really nay help on that?
[20:49] <tavi----> who can give me this kind of things in linux ubuntu? http://www.mircscripts.org/archive/scripts
[20:49] <SOURdiesel> ASULutzy: shouldn't it be like 2.9GiB
[20:50] <mrcucumber> I need a feature of the current 2.6.25 or greater kernel, however my intrepid installation only has 2.6.24, does anyone know why it's not auto updating to the newer versions shown on launchpad (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux) ?
[20:50] <cmoijuju> masterspry, you must install manually flashplayer
[20:50] <Neaai> JonathanD: I'd check the messages that websesnse generates for these failed attempts. I'm not familiar with websense though, just heared of it.
[20:50] <marge> I have PulseAudio loaded but sound card is really AC97
[20:50] <hischild> mrcucumber, because those kernels aren't in the main repo's yet
[20:50] <masterspry> so how can i do that?
[20:50] <ASULutzy> excitatory: What about apt-get build-dep
[20:50] <mrcucumber> hischild:how might I get them?
[20:50] <mlm> is there a way to get a HVR950 TV tuner to work on Ubuntu 8.10????
[20:50] <Pici> marge: PulseAudio is what controls the sound on Hardy and higher.
[20:50] <excitatory> ASULutzy, isn't that only for source?  when i run it for the amarok package it doesn't work
[20:50] <Pici> !pulse | marge
[20:50] <cmoijuju> masterspry, i give you a link
[20:51] <masterspry> yeah sure
[20:51] <hischild> !kernel | mrcucumber
[20:51] <masterspry> i hope it helps.
[20:51] <hischild> mrcucumber, take a look at those pages, but manually download the kernel you need.
[20:51] <ASULutzy> excitatory: Well, maybe what Jordan_U said wasn't a bad idea... I'm sure there's a better way to do this, but you could install amarok, then sudo apt-get remove amarok, and then when you do -f install it'll tell you about all the unnecessary packages you have installed--those packages are the dependencies for amarok
[20:51] <marge> alsamixer comes up and says PulseAudio
[20:51] <hischild> ASULutzy, there's an easier way ( excitatory )
[20:51] <marge> Trying to get Skype to work.
[20:52] <excitatory> ASULutzy, true, i could also just look up the deps myself.. but i want to do it for several apps
[20:52] <marge> Not having any luck
[20:52] <Neaai> JonathanD: but I tell you one thing. In a previous job I had, they used AD and websense and all. Now, with a liveCD, I'd boot up, set the ip addresses and gateway and nameservers as they were in windows, and Iwas good to go.
[20:52] <cmoijuju> masterspry, http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/flash-plugin-10.0.15.3-release.i386.rpm
[20:52] <Thark> Hello, after inserting my live CD Ubuntu starts to load up then all I see is a mess of garbled lines. I have a GeForce 6800 GS, what could be the problem?
[20:52] <marge> THought it was sound driver... but maybe not.
[20:52] <excitatory> hischild, i knew there had to be :D
[20:52] <marge> Not sure what to do.
[20:52] <Jordan_U> excitatory, If you apt-cache show amarok you can get all of the dependencies, then just feed them to "apt-get install --reinstall"
[20:52] <excitatory> I'm this close to just mirroring the official repos
[20:52] <JonathanD> Neaai: I already have the right DNS and gateway :)
[20:52] <cmoijuju> masterspry, this is a rpm you have to compile and flash will fonctionn
[20:52] <JonathanD> but ty :)
[20:53] <masterspry> sorry can you tell me how?
[20:53] <Jordan_U> excitatory, The DVD images for Ubuntu contain all of main
[20:53] <Pici> !flash | masterspry cmoijuju
[20:53] <amine> Hello, I have a few questions about ubuntu - does it use the latest kernel or does it backport security patches to an old stable one? Also, do the repositories have cutting-edge releases or just old stable ones? (e.g. a new version of eclipse comes out, does it get released on the repositories after a few days or after a few weeks when deemed stable/secure)?
[20:53] <masterspry> sorry for asking.
[20:53] <hischild> excitatory, you need the entire dependency chain for a given application?
[20:53] <mrcucumber> hmm actually, looks like I have hardy installed instead
[20:53] <Neaai> JonathanD: that means you use maybe a newer release of websense. Or maybe it was deploied otherwise in my case. idk.
[20:53] <hischild> cmoijuju, don't suggest using an RPM please.
[20:53] <ASULutzy> amine: Heh, you get a brand new release every 6 months, how much more cutting edge do you want ;)
[20:54] <cmoijuju> hischild, ok
[20:54] <excitatory> hischild, yes, i'm attempting to download a bunch of apps and their deps so i can use APTonCD to create a custom repo DVD for my friend's offline install.
[20:54] <cmoijuju> hischild, sry
[20:54] <Neaai> rpm? who said rpm? who?
[20:54] <ASULutzy> For flash, why again not just sudo apt-get install flash-plugin-nonfree
[20:54] <hischild> excitatory, you may want to take a look at aptitude why <application>
[20:55] <mib_mbbh9h> When is ubuntu prefered over windows? I mean, what does linux do better, and what does windows do better. Need to know what is best for my needs.
[20:55] <Pici> !ot | mib_mbbh9h
[20:55] <amine> ASULutzy, I don't really care about the ubuntu versioning system.. I care about the version of the application running on the system
[20:55] <JonathanD> Something else...
[20:55] <mrcucumber> any advantage of using 64bit over 32bit?
[20:55] <fryguy> mib_mbbh9h: ubuntu typically uses less resources than windows, is free, has a more customizable interface, provides robust programming environments for a variety of programming languages
[20:55] <JonathanD> when logging in using AD, I get "Internal error" "Failed to initialize HAL!"
[20:55] <fryguy> mrcucumber: faster in some applications, and able to address more ram
[20:55] <hischild> amine, the problem is that the versions used in a given version of ubuntu are matched to each other.
[20:55] <JonathanD> but the login works, etc.
[20:56] <mon^rch> does anyone know how to setup a MS Lifecam VX-6000?
[20:56] <hischild> fryguy, please discuss that topic in !ot
[20:56] <fryguy> hischild: which topic?
[20:56] <amine> hischild, what does that mean
[20:56] <hischild> fryguy, ubuntu/windows discussion.
[20:56] <mib_mbbh9h> fryguy: I've been looking a lot, and programming environments does not seem as good as what I find on windows.
[20:56] <fryguy> mib_mbbh9h: so then use windows
[20:56] <Talendel> Have 8.10 installed, with Educational add-ons.  Trying to find information on system administration and security.  First time working with Ubuntu, and I need to lock out access to certain items on the user account, per request.
[20:57] <hischild> amine, that updating a given program and not the other, will likely break eventually.
[20:57] <fryguy> hischild: sorry I was not aware that talking about ubuntu features was off topic
[20:57] <ASULutzy> mib_mbbh9h: lol, what?
[20:57] <Neaai> mib_mbbh9h: the linux tcp-ip stack is the fastest there is in the os arena. If you use servers, you can easily jail them in chrooted environments to get more control in case of breaching.
[20:57] <hischild> mib_975o21, fryguy, take that discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[20:57] <fryguy> Neaai: that is not true
[20:57] <ASULutzy> mib_mbbh9h: I guess that translates to, "Linux doesn't have Microsoft Visual Studio." haha
[20:57] <hischild> fryguy, it is, as this is a support channel, not a discussion channel
[20:57] <mib_mbbh9h> fryguy: Except for graphical stuff, configurability and resources, there is no major difference?
[20:57] <Neaai> fryguy: which part ?
[20:57] <mib_mbbh9h> ASULutzy: Nope
[20:57] <fryguy> Neaai: tcp/ip stack fastest in os arena
[20:57] <hischild> excitatory, you seen aptitude why?
[20:58] <mooglenorph> Hello. I am looking for a book covering ubuntu that would have helpful information for someone who has trouble with the idea of things like resizing windows, buring CDROMs, applications, etc. (is this offtopic?)
[20:58] <Neaai> fryguy: to what I know it is. AIX pars maybe.
[20:58] <mooglenorph> I googled around for book reviews, but everything I could find seemed to be much more advanced than that.
[20:58] <fryguy> mib_mbbh9h: not that I know of.  You asked a question that is well answered and documented on the wiki, and the full response is several pages long
[20:58] <ASULutzy> mib_mbbh9h: Please educate yourself. Google mandatory access control, look up the merits of a mostly modular OS, look at userspace etc... There's plenty of literature on the topic, no sense trolling.
[20:58] <fryguy> Neaai: freebsd and solaris too
[20:59] <excitatory> hischild, yea.. i'm not having trouble manually looking up deps.. i just want a more automated solution since i have several dozen apps i want to do this with.
[20:59] <mib_mbbh9h> fryguy: Link please
[20:59] <Solarium> moogle,  i searched for same type of info / book but didn't find anything nocive friendly
[21:00] <Solarium> moogle, so i reserted to using google / frums for the more simplistic questions, the problem i only learn when i have "problems"
[21:00] <mib_mbbh9h> ASULutzy: Not trolling here, and btw, I have already read tons of websites on this topic.
[21:00] <Neaai> fryguy: well about solaris I read something about it around one year ago. freebsd I could believe to be good. but the article about solaris mentioned some things that made me think about it. didn't understand it all, but seemed a pretty decent article to me.
[21:00] <Solarium> mooglenorph, ,  i searched for same type of info / book but didn't find anything nocive friendly
[21:00] <fryguy> mib_mbbh9h: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows  <-- some basics
[21:00] <hischild> excitatory, use apt-proxy to store the packages on a given system, then copy those over to his system?
[21:00] <Solarium> mooglenorph, , so i reserted to using google / frums for the more simplistic questions, the problem i only learn when i have "problems"
[21:00] <ASULutzy> mib_mbbh9h: this channel is specifically for ubuntu support, not friendly ubuntu banner, feel free to join the offtopic channel for that
[21:00] <hischild> !newusers | mooglenorph
[21:00] <mib_mbbh9h> ASULutzy, I did, but then someone replied here...
[21:01] <jorvis> mooglenorph: http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/08/13/linux-for-parents-a-beginners-guide-to-ubuntu/
[21:01] <mib_mbbh9h> fryguy: That is mostly about the GUI differences, and basic stuff. I want more of like advantages/disadvantages
[21:02] <vico> ??
[21:02] <[Spooky]> Is it hard to build a deb file from a *.tar.bz2 file?
[21:02] <mib_mbbh9h> Most I find is written by fanboys
[21:03] <mooglenorph> jorvis, oh, thanks! that looks pretty useful. (this actually would be for my dad)
[21:03] <fryguy> [Spooky]: no
[21:03] <Jimi__Hendrix> can you install xubuntu from a USB?
[21:03] <Neaai> mib_mbbh9h: one thing I remember for example is process isolation. linux claims better, but I can't know for these things are beyond my grasp.
[21:03] <[Spooky]> fryguy: You have any tip of a good tool?
[21:03] <Talendel> I have Ubuntu 8.10 installed, with the educational add-ons included, but I need to remove access to certain features of the OS.  I'm putting this together for a friend's kids, and he wants them to have all the edu stuff, but doesn't want them to be able to go on the 'net, and I want to make sure that their account is restricted.  Not familiar with how to do that as I'm more of a RH/SLAX user, so Deb is new to me.
[21:04] <fryguy> [Spooky]: dpkg
[21:04] <Jimi__Hendrix> autoidentif
[21:04] <Jimi__Hendrix> sorry
[21:04] <Jimi__Hendrix> can you install xubuntu from a USB?
[21:05] <fryguy> Jimi__Hendrix: yes
[21:05] <ASULutzy> Jimi__Hendrix: Sure why not
[21:05] <[Spooky]> fryguy: Thanks.
[21:05] <Neaai> Talendel: for package management, synaptic is your friend.
[21:06] <Talendel> Neaai: Been using synaptic.  I've got the packages installed, and removed, accordingly.
[21:06] <Neaai> Talendel: for network related things, I use /etc/network/interfaces
[21:06] <Talendel> Neaai: I just want to make sure that, after I turn it over to them, the *kids* can't mess around with any of that.  I need to know how to limit their accounts from even being able to *see* this other items.
[21:07] <Jimi__Hendrix> how would i do it?
[21:07] <fryguy> !usb | Jimi__Hendrix
[21:07] <Neaai> Talendel: well, the usual *nix tools come handy the same way. chown, chmod, iptables, etc.
[21:07] <Jimi__Hendrix> thank you
[21:07] <bartmon> Hi! If anyone uses VirtualBox, can you tell me which command your  Applications menu shortcut executes?
[21:07] <Talendel> Neaai: I'll check /interfaces, and see what I can do in there.  Thank you for that.
[21:07]  * Talendel nods
[21:08] <fryguy> bartmon: virtualbox
[21:08] <Thark> Hello, after inserting my live CD Ubuntu starts to load up then all I see is a mess of garbled lines. I have a GeForce 6800 GS, what could be the problem?
[21:08] <Neaai> Talendel: tailoring systems, any system, is best done 'old school'. And those are all there in any flavor of linux.
[21:08] <Talendel> Okay.  I just wasn't sure if there were different calls to be made, or if there was a different syntax.  Not really familiar with the Deb structure, and don't want to bork it.
[21:08] <fryguy> Thark: your computer doesn't work with the liveCd.  try the alternative install
[21:08] <bartmon> fryguy: Which version are you using? OSE?
[21:08] <fryguy> bartmon: yes
[21:09] <fryguy> bartmon: not on ubuntu, but that is the name of the executable that ubuntu uses
[21:09] <Neaai> Talendel: one you'll get to glance it, I'm sure you'll like it. More as time will go by :)
[21:09] <fryguy> bartmon: when you install from the repository
[21:09] <Neaai> once*
[21:09] <Talendel> What I was familiar with, in RH, was the 'Session Manager' option.  Let you configure what a user was allowed to even see, after login, along with everything else.
[21:09] <Talendel> And, still, thank you for the advice and the info!
[21:09] <Neaai> Talendel: see as in what sense ?
[21:10] <bartmon> fryguy: I have the proprietary Sun version and it doesn't install any app called virtualbox. The weird thing is that I just upgraded to 2.10 and the menu shortcut just disappeared.
[21:10] <Talendel> I really wasn't sure what I was getting into with this, but I had been told that Ubuntu was the easiest for people to get into, so I figured I'd give it a shot, for his kids.
[21:10] <CarlFK> is there a command line way to upgrade from hardy to ibex?  (that does not include editing sources.list... trying to avoid that)
[21:10] <Slart> !upgrade | CarlFK
[21:10] <fryguy> bartmon: did the propriety version install into /opt?
[21:11] <Talendel> Neaai: As in, what programs even appeared in the menu/on the desktop/in the panels, what they were allowed to access, what commands they had access to and didn't, and whether or not they could add or remove anything, and whether or not they could make changes to the panels, themselves.
[21:11] <elbac> cmoijuju, it was a bad CD :)
[21:11] <bartmon> fryguy: $ which VBox \n /usr/bin/VBox
[21:11] <Quartz> hi
[21:11] <darkrubicant> yea
[21:11] <darkrubicant> I've decided to use vmware instead
[21:11] <Quartz> anyone german here?
[21:11] <darkrubicant> anyone know of a good way to get it through synaptic or aptitude?
[21:12] <fryguy> bartmon: I don't think that is the right executable, but you can try it
[21:12] <bartmon> fryguy: Wait, i realised what i just wrote :P
[21:12] <Neaai> Talendel: I'm not familiar with rhel. I'm sure there's something similar to this in ubuntu/debian but i haven't had the need to after all. You might ask for advice in #debian as well. I can tell you're not affraid you're not afraid to mess with the system so it's quite fine :)
[21:12] <bartmon> fryguy: I tried launching it already but I get an error: "Unknown application - VBox" even though something is installed by that name. :/
[21:13] <Quartz> does soemwone now how i can change the irc-server at the opera irc-client(sry for my bad english)
[21:13] <Quartz> someone
[21:13] <Talendel> Neaai: I've had my hands dirty in code, before.  Nothing new there, LoL!  My main concern is, since the structure is new to me, and I'm trying to have this ready and out the door so that he's got time to wrap it and all(holiday gift for the kids), I want to make sure I don't bork anything, and have to go and fix it before they really even get much use out of it.
[21:14] <Freeaqingme> I want to do some QoS, should I look at L7, or something else?
[21:14] <Talendel> And, I'll check out #debian.  They may very well have some suggestions or advice.
[21:14] <CarlFK> Slart: thanks - exactly what I was looking for: /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades sudo do-release-upgrade
[21:14] <fep> i have some trouble playing dvd and videos in my ubuntu laptop, anyone know about any "package" or something i need with codecs/drivers?
[21:15] <fep> i get an error when playing
[21:15] <fryguy> Freeaqingme: i'd recommend switching to an operating system that has PF, like FreeBSD or OpenBSD.  I've found them to be much more performant than the solutions that ubuntu offers
[21:15] <Neaai> Talendel: yeap. And this also sums it up for me today. I'm off. Have a good day all.
[21:15] <abojoory_> السلام عليكم
[21:15] <Talendel> Thanks for the help, Neaai!  Take care and be well!
[21:15] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
[21:15] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address)
[21:15] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> When trying to load radeon drivers.
[21:15] <Talendel> Hopefully it's not snowing where you are, like it is out here.
[21:16] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Anyone know a fix?
[21:16] <[Spooky]> fryguy: Hm dosent work that good.. :/
[21:16] <Freeaqingme> fryguy: PF? Besides, though you're thanked for the advise, I do want to stay with ubuntu for now
[21:16] <Neaai> Talendel: thanks. you too. No. it's raining a litle but it's 10deg.Cels. so it's very fine. I'm off. lol
[21:16] <onetinsoldier> fep: i don't know if i can be of any help, but what are you trying to use to play your video right now? what application?
[21:17]  * Talendel chuckles and nods, being at 1°C, where he is; puts on an extra layer
[21:17] <fep> onetinsoldier: i have tried vlc, realplayer, totem movie player and gnome player
[21:17] <fep> onetinsoldier: and one other i dont remember the name of
[21:17] <emarvets> I am noob, trying to start a Ubuntu Live CD, gives me an ata1:00 error....can anyone tell me what device is ata1?  I have one sata HDD and 1 IDE dvd drive
[21:17] <EvilPizza> hey, is this a help channel?
[21:17] <EvilPizza> I need help with ubuntu
[21:17] <hischild> EvilPizza, it is
[21:17] <EvilPizza> thanks
[21:18] <EvilPizza> Im kind of a noob lolz
[21:18] <EvilPizza> i used wubi to install
[21:18] <EvilPizza> onto a secondary drive
[21:18] <hischild> !ask | EvilPizza
[21:18] <EvilPizza> and i want ubuntu to automount my c drive
[21:18] <EvilPizza> oh ok
[21:18] <predator363> hey i have a failure in dmesg and its only 2 lines do i need to use paste bin or can i paste it in here and can someone help me figure out the failures?
[21:18] <fryguy> EvilPizza: so add an entry for the device to /etc/fstab
[21:18] <onetinsoldier> fep: mplayer the oter one you are trying to think of?
[21:18] <EvilPizza> what does that mean?
[21:18] <emarvets> HELP: trying to start a Ubuntu Live CD, gives me an ata1:00 error....can anyone tell me what device is ata1?  I have one sata HDD and 1 IDE dvd drive
[21:19] <Vooloo> I'm trying to access my windows xp FS from ubuntu live cd and I get this: DBus error, no reply, did not receive a reply
[21:19] <fep> onetinsoldier: i dont know, no one of the players wotrk
[21:19] <fep> eork
[21:19] <hischild> fryguy, he's new to ubuntu. He won't understand "add a line to /etc/fstab"
[21:19] <redwyrm> I'm having trouble using cryptsetup... it worked fine in 8.04 and 7.10, but it doesn't seem to be working with 8.10... it says "Command failed: No key available with this passphrase." when I use luksOpen and the correct password
[21:19] <fryguy> EvilPizza: it means edit the file called /etc/fstab and add a corresponding line for your device so that it mounts at startup
[21:19] <Vooloo> unable to mount
[21:19] <fep> sorry, work
[21:19] <EvilPizza> oh ok
[21:19] <EvilPizza> so i just add that and it'll automount?
[21:19] <fep> isnt it a package? like in windows, k-lite package or vlc?
[21:19] <fryguy> hischild: editing a text file is a pretty trivial task
[21:19] <onetinsoldier> fep: it sounds like you have tried a number of options already. i don't know what to say or how to help. sorry
[21:19] <Majost> EvilPizza: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-406212.html
[21:19] <bartmon> EvilPizza: The fstab is probably to difficult for you at the moment.
[21:19] <EvilPizza> alright
[21:19] <hischild> fryguy, not to someone who is new to ubuntu, let alone what to put in it.
[21:19] <CarlFK> EvilPizza: when you boot ubuntu, hit Places, computer - do you see an entry for your drive on the left? (it will probably be just the size in gig, and an eject icon next to it)
[21:20] <fryguy> hischild: and I disagree
[21:20] <emarvets> HELP ME PLEASE?: trying to start a Ubuntu Live CD, gives me an ata1:00 error....can anyone tell me what device is ata1?  I have one sata HDD and 1 IDE dvd drive
[21:20] <fep> anyone else know what drivers or codecs i need beside vls and the standard software to play dvd and mpeg?
[21:20] <fryguy> hischild: feel free to offer meaningful input instead of criticizing me if you would like
[21:20] <fep> vlc
[21:20] <darkrubicant> I'm trying to get KVM running, but it's saying something about it requiring hardware acceleration, how do I enable that?
[21:20] <EvilPizza> i see a drive that says 750 GB hard drive
[21:20] <EvilPizza> but it only shows up if i double click it
[21:20] <Vooloo> how do I mount a broken windows xp disk in ubuntu live cd? :[
[21:20] <fryguy> Vooloo: how is it broken
[21:20] <EvilPizza> like I have stuff (like my background) accessing it, but it only shows up if i open the drive
[21:21] <erUSUL> darkrubicant: if your cpu does not have the hardware kvm need you can't do anything about it
[21:21] <EvilPizza> and i think that it's opening it
[21:21] <Vooloo> fryguy: scratches in the discs I think
[21:21] <suriro> fep: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[21:21] <redwyrm> never mind... I realized I had to modprobe for aes and dm-crypt
[21:21] <Freeaqingme> fryguy: so /if/ I were to keep using ubuntu, you would advise L7 ?
[21:21] <darkrubicant> erUSUL, I was checking into kvm, and it said to enter a line into terminal and it said if it printed anything it did have it, and it printed lots.
[21:21] <bartmon> If anyone can help with fglrx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6375288&postcount=3
[21:22] <vivgrn> hi guys
[21:22] <fryguy> Vooloo: take a look at using dd or ddrescue to get the data migrated to a good disk, and then consult data recovery specialists
[21:22] <fryguy> Freeaqingme: i've already told you what i think
[21:22] <fep> suriro: dvd should not be a restricted format?
[21:22] <fryguy> fep: it is
[21:22] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
[21:22] <WebcamWonder> Hey guys. Does anyone know if it is possible to symlink an NTFS directory under an ext3 folder?
[21:22] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address)
[21:22] <CarlFK> EvilPizza: then I think you need to dink with fstab.
[21:22] <predator363> i dont want to span but should i ask my question again?
[21:22] <emarvets> trying to start a Ubuntu Live CD, gives me an error for ata1....can anyone tell me what device is ata1?  I have one sata HDD and 1 IDE dvd drive
[21:22] <EvilPizza> ok
[21:22] <EvilPizza> ill try that
[21:22] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> When trying to load radon drivrs, anyone know a fix?
[21:22] <EvilPizza> thanks guys
[21:22] <erUSUL> darkrubicant: can you post the output of that command and the exact error you get when you run kvm ??
[21:22] <fep> fryguy: oh, ok
[21:22] <fryguy> WebcamWonder: symlinks between different file systems works fine
[21:22] <erUSUL> pate | darkrubicant
[21:22] <fep> i read some
[21:22] <erUSUL> !paste | darkrubicant
[21:22] <darkrubicant> sure
[21:22] <Vooloo> fryguy: if I could afford that
[21:22] <fryguy> fep: look up DVD jon, and decss
[21:22] <javimansilla> can I get some help configuring a wifi card broadcom 4328 on a dell inspiron 1720 just upgraded to intrepid :-) ?
[21:22] <WebcamWonder> fryguy: Awesome. Thanks :)
[21:22] <fryguy> Vooloo: so then restore your backup
[21:23] <vivgrn> i have been trying to install matlab R14 on my 8.10 but it shows me a warning like "open-GL library cannot be acessed ". any help?
[21:23] <fep> fryguy: on that link it says "Ubuntu can play the most popular non-free media formats, including DVD"
[21:23] <Doonz> !topic
[21:23] <fryguy> fep: and it can
[21:23] <Doonz> hmm
[21:23] <fep> fryguy: well, i get an error when im playing it
[21:23] <Doonz> whats the other channel to hang in?
[21:23] <fep> i dont know if i miss some codecs or drivers
[21:23] <fryguy> fep: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:23] <diffred> how can I take an screenshot within the terminal? something like: takescreenshot -w 'foo.jpg'
[21:23] <emarvets> trying to start a Ubuntu Live CD, gives me an error for ata1....can anyone tell me what device is ata1?  I have one sata HDD and 1 IDE dvd drive
[21:23] <Vooloo> fryguy: they haven't backed it up recently
[21:23] <fep> fryguy: i did
[21:23] <fryguy> fep: it's non-free, so it can't be exported, and it's not legal to have as part of the base distribution
[21:23] <fep> fryguy: did not work
[21:24] <CarlFK> diffred: import foo.png
[21:24] <EvilPizza> wait so im confused. what do i write in the fstab file?
[21:24] <fryguy> fep: what doesn't work about it?
[21:24] <darkrubicant> erUSUL, http://paste.ubuntu.com/88764/
[21:24] <bartmon> vivgrn: Does the matlab documentation state any dependencies ? They're programs/libraries matlab relies upon.
[21:24] <fep> fryguy: i isntalled it, and it still wont play dvd
[21:24] <diffred> CarlFK: I mean the whole screenshot, and without any kind of GUI asking for anything
[21:25] <emarvets> HELP ME PLEASE: trying to start a Ubuntu Live CD, gives me an error for ata1....can anyone tell me what device is ata1?  I have one sata HDD and 1 IDE dvd drive
[21:25] <fryguy> fep: what is it, and what makes you think it won't play? does it crash the machine? does it provide an error message? does it destroy the disk?  "does not work" isn't very descriptive
[21:25] <vivgrn> fep: not
[21:25] <fryguy> fep: please be more specific
[21:25] <EvilPizza> Hey, guys. what do I write in the fstab file to mount the drive?
[21:25] <erUSUL> darkrubicant: ok it is just a permission problem... you need to add yourself to the kvm group « sudo adduser $USER kvm »
[21:25] <darkrubicant> I just used sudo and it gave me a bunch of stuff, but i'm not sure what to do with kvm
[21:25] <EvilPizza> It's my C Drive, 750.1 GB, ntfs
[21:25] <fep> fryguy: well, i can sure repeat myself here. it comes an error
[21:26] <fryguy> EvilPizza: <devicename> <mountpoint> <filesystem> <mountoptions>
[21:26] <kurrata> EvilPizza do you know uuid for the drive you want to mount?
[21:26] <predator363> dang this rooms busy
[21:26] <EvilPizza> whats the uuid?
[21:26] <supply> hi folks
something like disk ID number tipe blkid in consule
[21:26] <emarvets> HELP ME PLEASE: trying to start a Ubuntu Live CD, gives me an error for ata1....can anyone tell me what device is ata1?  I have one sata HDD and 1 IDE dvd drive
[21:26] <unimatrix9> hi there
[21:27] <bartmon> EvilPizza: If the configuration line is valid the drive is usually mounted on bootup  of Ubuntu. UUID is a unique ID of the Windows partition
[21:27] <fryguy> emarvets: ata1 is your hard disk controller
[21:27] <EvilPizza> i don't know what that means.. sorry. I'm really noobish when it comes to this stuff
[21:27] <erUSUL> emarvets: ata1 is the first sata port i guess
[21:27] <[Spooky]> Guess dpkg cant build whitout a sertian file...
[21:27] <EvilPizza> so do i put the id thing into the file?
[21:27] <emarvets> fryguy: disk controller not disk
[21:27] <fryguy> emarvets: right
[21:27] <unimatrix9> i have something strange , in the right corner of the gnome menu i have three trash cans, how would i remove them?
[21:27] <erUSUL> unimatrix9: right click on them remove from panel
[21:28] <unimatrix9> oh, my mistake, pessulus is locking it down , sorry
[21:28] <diffred> how can I take an screenshot within the terminal? something like: takescreenshot -w 'foo.jpg', without any kind of user involment? using import foo.jpg asks me to click to some window
[21:28] <unimatrix9> found the solution
[21:28] <unimatrix9> :)
[21:28] <fryguy> diffred: take a look at the scrot command
[21:28] <diffred> fryguy: thanks :)
[21:29] <predator363> hey im getting an error message from dmesg its only 2 line can i paste it here and get help with it or do i need to use pastebin for just 2 line and also can someone helpme with it?
[21:29] <unimatrix9> thanks youi all
[21:29] <unimatrix9> bye bye
[21:29] <EvilPizza> guys im still really confused
[21:29] <CarlFK> diffred: import -window root screen.png
 UUID=86C441C8C441BB67	/windows_nfts ntfs-3g    users,uid=martins,gid=martins,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0  add this line to fstab file, just channge uuid to the one you have and "martins" to your username/group
[21:29] <EvilPizza> ok thx
[21:29] <EvilPizza> how do i find the uuid
[21:30] <tgblb> Flash crashes firefox anytime a flash object tries to load. I've tried reinstaling both firefox and flash. I've tried rebooting several times. Still does it. Any help here?
[21:30] <jrib> !uuid | EvilPizza
[21:30] <diffred> CarlFK: oh yeah that's it !! thanks :)
open consule and tipe in blkid it should give out list of uuid
[21:30] <jrib> tgblb: ubuntu version?
[21:30] <tgblb> 8.04
[21:30] <EvilPizza> ok thanks
[21:30] <jrib> tgblb: know issue in 8.04.  Try 8.10
[21:30] <fryguy> is there any reason why we are having him use uuid rather than device node?
[21:30] <WebcamWonder> Guys if I want to create a user for vsftpd, what should be the main group? ftpusers? And shell should be /dev/null?
[21:30] <jrib> !upgrade > tgblb
[21:30] <Setebos> What is the easiest way to make a shortcut that will open a terminal and run the command ( wine /media/disk/Dylans\ Space/Program\ Files/Flash\ 5/Flash.exe )
[21:31] <jrib> fryguy: because those change?
[21:31] <fryguy> jrib: no
[21:31] <sacabonos> guys I am compiling a package and make command gives me Error 100, what is that suppose to mean?
[21:31] <jrib> fryguy: eh?
[21:31] <tgblb> Alright, I'll try upgrading, thanks.
[21:31] <jrib> sacabonos: nothing.  Provide more context
[21:31] <sacabonos> jrib: ok gimme a sec
[21:32] <fryguy> jrib: jrib hard drive number has been fixed number for several versions of linux
[21:32] <jrib> fryguy: nope
[21:32] <zbyszek> anybody using elisa?
[21:33] <zbyszek> and willing to help me?
[21:33] <Doonz> then this may sound stupid but what is the max ammount of Hdd's a linux system can have?
[21:33] <erUSUL> Doonz: i do not know of a limit for it
[21:33] <gleesond> has anyone heard of a program for streaming a video library?
[21:33] <gleesond> like jinzora or ampache for audio
[21:33] <ikonia> Doonz: as many as your buss will support, there is a physical limit but its very high
[21:34] <Doonz> well mulktiple raid cards with port multiplier support
[21:34] <Doonz> multiple*
[21:34] <Doonz> cause im looking at buying another 10x 1tb drives
[21:34] <ikonia> Doonz: that won't be a problem at all
[21:34] <ikonia> Doonz: small stuff, not a problem
[21:34] <Doonz> thought so
[21:35] <Doonz> cheers
[21:35] <sacabonos> I am trying to build NTFS-3G to have it installed on my "Western Digital MyBook World Edition" NAS device which I have to put to work as a file server on a windows 2k3/2k8 environment but it comes with ex3 fs support only
[21:35] <sacabonos> I am following this tutorial to do so http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/BuildNTFS3G
[21:35] <EvilPizza> hey im back
[21:35] <EvilPizza> i lost the thing you told me to put in
[21:35] <gleesond> or I guess I should ask has anyone ever set up vls?
[21:35] <EvilPizza> could you say it again
[21:35] <EvilPizza> the line to put into fstab
[21:36] <sacabonos> I am having trouble compiling the master makefile in the same page
[21:36] <fryguy> jrib: please review the linux kernel changelogs for 2.6.19,  devices no longer randomly renumber
[21:36] <kurrata> EvilPizza:  UUID=86C441C8C441BB67	/windows_nfts ntfs-3g    users,uid=martins,gid=martins,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 just change the uiid
[21:36] <raylu> sacabonos: why does a file server need ntfs-3g support?
[21:36] <EvilPizza> thank you
[21:36] <jrib> sacabonos: ubuntu comes with ntfs-3g
[21:36] <ra_> Hey
[21:37] <ra_> Is there a way to get the old Azureus back, this vuze stuff is way to fancy
[21:37] <kurrata> EvilPizza:  /windows_nfts change this to location where u want you hard drive to show up and change both "martins" to your username
[21:37] <sacabonos> I know but as I said I need to install it on my NAS device
[21:37] <jrib> sacabonos: how is this related to ubuntu?
[21:37] <EvilPizza> what was it that i put into the console to get the uuid?
[21:37] <jrib> !uuid > EvilPizza
[21:37] <raylu> kurrata: that's unnecessary
[21:37] <sacabonos> the guy who made the compiling tutorial used ubuntu , thats all
[21:37] <raylu> kurrata: you can just mount with the "user" option
oh didnt know that
[21:38] <sacabonos> I have so little knowledge in linux and I started using ubuntu just recently
[21:38] <CoUrPsE|DeAd>  drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 --- drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address) ---- drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address) --- drmOpenDevice: Open failed
[21:38] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Anyone got any tips for me?
[21:38] <raylu> sacabonos: nas = ?
[21:38] <vazdyk> Hi, i installed JDK, not from "Add/remove programs" but i copied BIN file from site and installed. And when i type "java" in terminal, it purpose me to install java. How to correct it?
[21:39] <fryguy> raylu: nas stands for network attached storage
[21:39] <fryguy> raylu: as opposed to SAN, which stands for storage area network
[21:39] <raylu> fryguy: does the nas serve the files or is it just attached to something attached to the network?
[21:39] <sacabonos> raylu: I need to use NTFS to have full ACL support so I can just dump the file server that I am using
[21:39] <sacabonos> fryguy: thanks for explaining that
[21:40] <fryguy> raylu: it can either be configured to share via NFS or samba, or in the case of SANs, can use something like fibrechannel or iscsi to export the direct device to another machine via a network protocol
[21:40] <vazdyk> any idea?
[21:40] <raylu> !md
[21:40] <georgy_28> vazdyk, : try this : sudo update-alternatives --config java and chooce the right version
[21:40] <suriro> CoUrPsE|DeAd: you might want to disable drm in xorg.conf
[21:41] <raylu> fryguy: so why does he need to build ntfs-3g?
[21:41] <raylu> georgy_28: he doesn't have it insatlled
[21:41] <fryguy> raylu: if the drive that he is sharing has an ntfs filesystem on it, then he needs ntfs
[21:41] <raylu> fryguy: er, why does he need to build ntfs-3g?
[21:41] <fryguy> raylu: i have no idea. he's probably wrong
[21:41] <raylu> as opposed to just grabbing it from the repos
[21:41] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> I have dri module, but no drm module.
[21:42] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> suriro, ^^
[21:42] <sacabonos> raylu: I need to have NTFS permissions on the NAS device
[21:42] <raylu> !romanian
[21:42] <raylu> ah ha.
[21:42] <bartmon> Hi again! Does anyone know of a howto on setting up extra mouse buttons in 8.10? Now that input devices are hotpluggble xorg.conf doesn't contain any configuration anymore.
[21:42] <raylu> !romanian | vazdyk
[21:42] <raylu> !ru | vazdyk
[21:42] <fryguy> sacabonos: the permissions go away as soon as the mount is exported
[21:42] <raylu> !tk | vazdyk
[21:42] <raylu> :(
[21:42] <fryguy> sacabonos: when you share via samba or nfs, you are using the cifs or nfs filesystems, not ntfs
[21:42] <jrib> bartmon: your mouse uses evdev by default now.  Just use xbindkeys or imwheel like before
[21:42] <vax_> hi
[21:43] <bartmon> jrib: Thanks, i'll check it out!
[21:43] <fryguy> sacabonos: and if you are exporting as iscsi, it's the initiator machine that controls the filesystem, not the target
[21:43] <sacabonos> fryguy: so this means that I can't use NTFS with this NAS
[21:43] <fryguy> sacabonos: it doesn't mean that at all
[21:43] <heril> where is the keymap file located for the purpose of swaping two keys on my keyboard in the console?
[21:43] <fryguy> sacabonos: ntfs is a local filesystem, it doesn't get shared over the network
[21:43] <hub_> i have an USB Stick 8 GB. If i Copy 7.2 GB may of Files on it, then it is freeze on random %... why any idea ?
[21:44] <raylu> heril: it doesn't exist by default. ~/.Xmodmap
[21:44] <raylu> heril: though the default is in /etc/xmodmap or something like that
[21:45] <sacabonos> fryguy: just pear with me am sorry for my ignorance. I just need to know if I need to do something to make this NAS work with my current domain and Active directory and have certain users in my Active directory access certain files and such
[21:46] <fryguy> sacabonos: no idea
[21:46] <raylu> schmidtm: instead of building ntfs-3g, just get it from the repos
[21:46] <sacabonos> fryguy: do you know where can I turn to for help, as google isn't that useful when don't know what your looking for
[21:47] <heril> raylu: and that works for the tty consoles?
[21:47] <fryguy> sacabonos: you'd probably be better served using cifs
[21:47] <raylu> heril: of course not
[21:47] <raylu> heril: i'm not sure how to get it to work for the ttys
[21:47] <fryguy> sacabonos: you aren't accessing the disks locally, so ntfs permission semantics don't mean much
[21:47] <raylu> er...
[21:47] <heril> that's what I need, I already had it working for X
[21:47] <raylu> sacabonos: instead of building ntfs-3g, just get it from the repos
[21:48] <sacabonos> fryguy: and how is that working is it similar to NTFS permissions in windows?
[21:48] <fryguy> it's the same permissions as windows fileshares
[21:48] <tuxracer> Does anyone here know C?
[21:48] <raylu> sacabonos: Since Unslung runs a 2.4 kernel, we have to use FUSE v2.5.3 - Try to use the latest version of NTFS-3G which is v1.2812 as of this writing.
[21:48] <fryguy> tuxracer: yes, but your question is probably better suited for another channel, such as #c or #programming
[21:48] <jrib> tuxracer: ##c
[21:48] <raylu> sacabonos: unslung?
[21:48] <jrib> tuxracer: (and ask a better question)
[21:48] <D0pamine> hello , i'm having a little issue here , my friend installed adobe-flashplugin and i cant seem to install flashplugin-nonfree now
[21:49] <D0pamine> i cannot find adobe-flashplugin anywhere in apt
[21:49] <raylu> D0pamine: aptitude update
[21:49] <sacabonos> raylu: yes its some sort of os for open DSL modems
[21:49] <raylu> sacabonos: o.0.o.0
[21:49] <D0pamine> raylu , i did that :S
[21:50] <chahibi> Is there a difference between font rendering in vanilla Debian and Ubuntu?
[21:50] <raylu> D0pamine: aptitude search flashplugin
[21:50] <heril> D0pamine: can you not remove it with apt?
[21:50] <fryguy> chancegarcia: yes, ubuntu has some patches in their freetype implementation
[21:50] <Neff> how do i see my other partitions in xubuntu?
[21:50] <raylu> heril: he wants to install
[21:50] <fryguy> Neff: mount them using the mount command
[21:50] <heril> raylu: yes, but it wont because another package is there
[21:50] <heril> if I understand correctly
[21:50] <D0pamine> apt doesnt see it until i try to install flashplugin-nonfree
[21:51] <raylu> heril: adobe-flashplugin is a repository, i believe
[21:51] <sacabonos> fryguy: do you recommend a place to start reading about this cifs and how do I know if I have cif ready in my NAS (am logged in now with ssh)
[21:51] <Neff> fryguy: so it's like "mount /dev/sda1?
[21:51] <raylu> heril: as far as i'm concerned, adobe is nonfree :D
[21:51] <raylu> Neff: mount --help
[21:51] <fryguy> sacabonos: no idea. manpage for samba is pretty descriptive
[21:51] <Neff> hrm
[21:51] <heril> adobe-flashplugin is what I saw for the direct download from adobe .deb
[21:51] <fryguy> Neff: yes
[21:51] <D0pamine> adobe-flashplugin conflicts with flashplugin-nonfree
[21:51] <karn`> anyone know what would be a good version of ubuntu to install.....something later then breezy and older then ibex or hardy...?
[21:51] <raylu> o.0
[21:51] <raylu> what's the difference between adobe-flashplugin and flashplugin-nonfree?
[21:52] <karn`> i cant install ibex or hardy i dont have enough mem
[21:52] <D0pamine> cannnot find package adobe-flashplugin
[21:52] <sacabonos> fryguy: Ok thanks I'll read a little and I'll be back later
[21:52] <D0pamine> btw i'm not a noob
[21:52] <raylu> karn`: xubuntu :D
[21:52] <karn`> i just tried
[21:52] <D0pamine> any ideas?
[21:52] <karn`> raylu: xubuntu ibex and hardy
[21:52] <heril> probably use dpkg, not sure on the correct ommand
[21:52] <raylu> karn`: how much memory do you have?
[21:52] <jrib> raylu: one is a package from adobe that seems to cause the issue you are having now, the other is from ubuntu repositories
[21:52] <karn`> 96mb ;P
[21:53] <raylu> !info adobe-flashplugin
[21:53] <karn`> and 400mhz
[21:53] <blip-> hi all,  suspend-to-disk used to work on my laptop with ubuntu 8.04.... but after reinstalling it doesn't anymore... very strange issue... now it powers-down the machine but when i start it up again it just boots normally and doesn't "resume"...any idea what to check for ?   My RAM is 4GB and my swap is 4GB+ so it should have enough space...
[21:53] <raylu> jrib: huh? i'm not having an issue
[21:53] <raylu> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[21:53] <Abbfam47> i've just installed ubuntu 8.10 and finally got it to boot to the log in screen, but it freezes before before the desktop. this is at least the forth install and two downloads of the iso. any help would be great
[21:53] <heril> raylu: exactly, I think it was installed manually using dpkg and is now causing conflicts
[21:53] <nexus23> Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied  A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file ( rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" Error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal"
[21:53] <karn`> raylu; is there anything that has less requirements then hardy or ibex?
[21:53] <nexus23> i keep getting that when i try and use my usb external hard drive
[21:53] <raylu> heril: ...?
[21:54] <nexus23> it shows up in nautilus's side bar
[21:54] <raylu> heril: was that meant for me?
[21:54] <nexus23> but when i try to click on it i get that error
[21:54] <jrib> raylu: whoever is then
[21:54] <heril> raylu: helping explain it to the both of you actually
[21:54] <Neff> fryguy: remember i was having trouble getting ubuntu to install with the installer not seeing my partitions?
[21:54] <raylu> karn`: yeah. the requirements aren't hardy or ibex... it's gnome
[21:54] <fryguy> Neff: no
[21:54] <Neff> xubuntu installed with no problems
[21:55] <Neff> oh you helped me with it yesterday
[21:55] <karn`> raylu; do you think an older version would go?
[21:55] <Neff> i couldn't get the installer to "prepare partitions" at all
[21:55] <raylu> jrib: the issue is a package conflict. and that doesn't answer my question
[21:55] <heril> karn`: lxde or xfce
[21:55] <nexus23> Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied  A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file ( rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" Error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal"
[21:55] <karn`> raylu; i got breezy to install i just cant figure out how to get my wireless to work in it
[21:55] <jrib> raylu: the issue is dpkg doesn't know anything about the package when one tries to remove it
[21:55] <heril> instead of gnome
[21:56] <karn`> heril; where can i get those at?
[21:56] <raylu> karn`: no, like i said, install 8.04 or 8.10 without gnome
[21:56] <karn`> raylu; thats the problem, the loader freezes and the screen goes blank
[21:57] <raylu> karn`: use a minimal/alternate install cd
[21:57] <bartmon> karn`: install xubuntu-desktop if you have the space on hdd and then log into the xfce session instead of gnome
[21:57] <NemesisD> anyone know how i would retrieve a missing (but still running) gnome-panel?
[21:57] <karn`> eh?
[21:57] <fryguy> !resetpanel | NemesisD
[21:57] <bartmon> karn`: what?
[21:57] <NemesisD> fryguy: you told me that earlier. doesn't work
[21:58] <karn`> the install loader freezes
[21:58] <karn`> when its loading to install
[21:58] <bartmon> karn`: oh...
[21:59] <centr0> i have an ide that needs permission to /var/www how can i make the ide writable without running it as root?
[22:00] <fryguy> centr0: ls -ld /var/www, and add your user to the group that is listed
[22:00] <fryguy> (probably www)
[22:00] <FloodBot1> fryguy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:00] <Guest_150> anyone here can help me a bit?
[22:00] <fryguy> !ask | Guest_150
[22:00] <centr0> fryguy: thanks, ill take a look at that
[22:00] <jrib> !permissions > centr0
[22:01] <jrib> centr0: the group is root by default, so you probably want to create a new one like www-editors or something
[22:01] <fryguy> centr0: or just configure your webserver to server non-production files from a non-production location
[22:02] <Neff->  mount /hda1
[22:02] <Neff-> mount: can't find /hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[22:03] <jrib> Neff-: what are you trying to do?
[22:03] <fryguy> Neff-: you need to specify a mount location as well
[22:03] <Neff-> i tried /dev/hda1 too
[22:03] <edgimar> Does anybody know if there is a headless IRC client which can be connected to by a GUI-based client, and later disconnected?  Something that caches IRC messages.
[22:03] <Neff-> i want to see my NTFS partitions
[22:03] <fryguy> edgimar: irssi
[22:03] <jrib> Neff-: pastebin: sudo fdisk -l
[22:03] <fryguy> Neff-: sudo mkdir /mnt/tmp; sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/tmp;
[22:04] <duiu_> How do I make a command be run at startup?
[22:04] <huckleberry_> can someone help me with pspmanager install?
[22:04] <jrib> !startup > duiu_
[22:04] <D0pamine> really , i'm stuck with this one
[22:04] <D0pamine> help
[22:04] <D0pamine> !
[22:04] <centr0> so if i change the grp of my /var/www from root to something else it will automatically be writable?
[22:04] <jrib> D0pamine: the only solution I've seen is for you to muck around with the dpkg database by hand.  So you should probably look for a better one
[22:04] <fryguy> centr0: no
[22:05] <huckleberry_> i get the following error  i run the make command and get the following error uic: File generated with too recent version of Qt Designer (4.0 vs. 3.3.8b)
[22:05] <huckleberry_>  make: *** [encodevideo.h] Error 1
[22:05] <Neff> oh crap
[22:05] <Neff> it was sda1
[22:05] <Neff> my bad
[22:05] <duiu_> jrib: thanks
[22:05] <D0pamine> he did it with dpkg -i --force-arch
[22:06] <karn`> heri; is lxde or xfcen like breezy or ibex?
[22:06] <centr0> ah i see change grp and change perms of that grp to rwx if need be?
[22:06] <edgimar> fryguy: irssi looks ok, but it's console-based (like bitchx), and I'd like something which has a server backend, and a GUI frontend (maybe something similar to xchat).
[22:06] <jrib> centr0: and add your user to the group, yeah
[22:06] <northfield> northfield
[22:07] <centr0> thanks guys. really helpful :)
[22:07] <jazzyb5394> oh wow
[22:07] <fryguy> edgimar: you can connect to irssi using whatever gui irc client you want
[22:07] <karn`> #wireless
[22:08] <srinidhi> hi, I'm using ruby ripper, and I keep getting the error: "Cdrom drive sr0 does not exist on your system! Please configure your cdrom drive first"
[22:09] <fryguy> srinidhi: try having it use /dev/cdrom
[22:09] <edgimar> fryguy: ok, you mean using the proxy plugin.  -- how does it work?  If I am on channel X, and disconnect from the proxy for an hour, and then reconnect, will I somehow see all the activity during the last hour?
[22:09] <Psyrix21> what would be a better suggestion for running window programs on linux wine or crossover office?
[22:09] <Neff> still isn't working
[22:09] <fryguy> edgimar: yes
[22:09] <srinidhi> fryguy, I tried that also
[22:10] <Neff> i browsed to /mnt/tmp and i don't see anything except lost+found there
[22:10] <jrib> Neff: you never pastebinned what I asked.
[22:10] <Neff> sorry
[22:11] <ChUmBo> hi all
[22:11] <stz184> hey, after installing updates on ubuntu 8.10 i get icons of disconnected network in notification (no active connection forund), but I am using the internet right now
[22:12] <Neff-> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/88804/
[22:12] <Jason_WT> hello, When i open the network connection, I see never next to auto eth0 what does that mean
[22:12] <Neff> i want to see sda1 and sda2
[22:12] <Neff> or be able to browse them
[22:12] <nevoeiro> is there any problem with update manager? it is showing a popup saying "not all updates can be installed, run a partial upgrade... blabla" ??
[22:12] <stz184> Jason_WT same to me after installing updates
[22:13] <ChUmBo> i have a problem with my system i just cant get in in grafic mode can any one help me?
[22:13] <fryguy> !ask | ChUmBo
[22:13] <Jason_WT> well i just installed ubuntu in vbox
[22:13] <ChUmBo> kk ubottu
[22:14] <Neff> jrib?
[22:14] <fryguy> Neff: mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/tmp
[22:14] <nevoeiro> is there any problem with update manager? it is showing a popup saying "not all updates can be installed, run a partial upgrade... blabla" ??
[22:14] <Neff> hrm ok
[22:15] <boub_> ??
[22:15] <fryguy> nevoeiro: ust apt-get to upgrade from the command line, it will be more descriptive
[22:15] <jrib> D0pamine: try using dpkg to purge it
[22:15] <jrib> Neff: permanently or only one time?
[22:15] <Neff> ?
[22:15] <coeus82> I have an ekiga question, can I ask here?
[22:15] <Neff> permanently would be fine
[22:16] <jrib> Neff: install and run 'ntfs-config'
[22:16] <nevoeiro> fryguy: The following packages have been kept back:
[22:16] <nevoeiro>   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[22:16] <nevoeiro>   linux-restricted-modules-generic
[22:16] <nevoeiro> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[22:16] <FloodBot1> nevoeiro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:16] <Neff> it said "according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /mnt/tmp
[22:16] <fryguy> nevoeiro: so then install those manually
[22:16] <ChUmBo> well i've just install ubunto on my pc and all was ok, but i changed the resolution and put the visual efect on, and when i restarted im keep geting start in command line or what ever its called
[22:16] <Neff> but i don't see it in file systems
[22:16] <Neff> but i don't see it in file system\
[22:16] <eseven73> !who
[22:17] <fryguy> ChUmBo: so then change the resolution back and disable 3d effects
[22:17] <nevoeiro> this is becoming a pain, really.. *sigh*
[22:17] <raylu> !pt | ChUmBo
[22:18]  * ElijahDuBarryVT is away: I'm not here, please try again latter!
[22:18] <ChUmBo> ???? udunto br??? i am not from brasil lol
[22:18] <raylu> ChUmBo: oops.
[22:18] <jrib> ChUmBo: but that is for support in portuguese
[22:18] <mithraic> Is there a decent console jabber client that support rooms? Teh goog is sending me in endless circles.
[22:18] <Neff> i'm still not seeing my ntfs partitions
[22:18] <Neff> :(
[22:19] <fryguy> mithraic: finch works
[22:19] <raylu> mithraic: there's bitlbee, which isn't quite what you want
[22:19] <ChUmBo> i prefer english support jrib
[22:19] <jrib> ChUmBo: that's fine
[22:19] <jrib> Neff: details.....
[22:19] <mithraic> Thanks guys.
[22:19] <jrib> !who | Neff
[22:19] <raylu> Neff: ls /mnt/tmp
[22:20] <mithraic> fryguy: Ooh, finch nifty! rocking the ncurses
[22:20] <Neff> raylu: <Neff> it said "according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /mnt/tmp
[22:20] <raylu> Neff: ...right. so "ls /mnt/tmp"
[22:20] <Neff> oh
[22:20] <Neff> ls
[22:20] <fryguy> Neff: so then sudo umount /mnt/tmp and do it again
[22:20] <raylu> mithraic: rocking isn't quite the word you're looking for ...
[22:20] <raylu> mithraic: it's more like "barely pulling through and providing a semi-usable interface"
[22:21] <peligom> hi all
[22:21] <gary_> hii guys
[22:22] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[22:22] <gary_> i don't know how
[22:22] <gary_> open control panel
[22:22] <gary_> under wine
[22:22] <jrib> !enter | Guest13720
[22:22] <test34> When I change my network address to a static one using the GUI (System - Preferences - Network Configuration), it gets reset to DHCP when I reboot, is that a bug ?
[22:22] <Neff> yay it worked!
[22:22] <Guest13720> all right i'm sorry
[22:22] <Neff> thanks guys
[22:23] <Guest13720> but how open ControlPanel under wine
[22:23] <fryguy> test34: yes, there are lots of issues when using network manager with static IPs
[22:23] <Jason_WT> is there a way to drag a window from one WS to another?
[22:23] <Jason_WT> WS--workspace
[22:23] <test34> fryguy, what should I do ?
[22:23] <fryguy> Jason_WT: you can turn that feature on, or just ctrl-shift-arrowkey to move it for the time being
[22:23] <Psyrix21> use compiz
[22:24] <fryguy> test34: use /etc/network/interfaces and disable network manager would be my recommendation
[22:24] <Neff> so how do i mount these partitions permanently?
[22:24] <jrib> Neff: use ntfs-config...
[22:24] <fryguy> Neff: add the corresponding lines to /etc/fstab
[22:24] <Neff> ok
[22:24] <rdavila> hi folks!
[22:24] <itsatrick> I have no idea what I did, but for some reason in gnome, my keyboard is disabled and my mouse scroll bar acts like a text zoom.  I think I hit something like ALT+SPACE, but I have no idea.
[22:25] <rdavila> I've a litle problem with the microphone when I record audio
[22:25] <test34>  ./etc/network/interfaces doesnt list eth0.. only lo ..
[22:25] <itsatrick> Anybody know how to get my keyboard and mouse back?
[22:25] <rdavila> there is a strange noise
[22:25] <Jason_WT> oh, i just right clicked on the top bar and shose move to right
[22:25] <rdavila> here is a litle demo: http://www.box.net/shared/55q3c4nypp
[22:25] <fryguy> test34: right, because you are currently using network manager for everything, you'll need to add an entry for eth0
[22:25] <Jason_WT> is there a way to make each WS appear on a different moniter?
[22:25] <mithraic> Hmmmm, _somewhere_ I have F11 set to maximize windows. I don't see it in Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts, nor in Compiz Settings Manager
[22:25] <mithraic> Any other suggestions where it might be hiding?
[22:26] <test34> ok thanks fryguy
[22:26] <fryguy> Jason_WT: not with metacity or compiz that i know of.  other window managers offer that feature
[22:26] <fryguy> Jason_WT: the window manager i use, for example, does
[22:26] <mithraic> Ah! It was specific to gnome-terminal.
[22:26] <Jason_WT> what is a windows manager
[22:26] <fryguy> Jason_WT: a program that controls how windows are drawn on the screen and provides controls for manipulating those windows
[22:27] <bartmon> mithraic: No, F11 is the usual hotkey for fullscreen
[22:27] <bartmon> mithraic: It's used in most applications.
[22:27] <Koordin-> hi, does someone here have a little time to spend for me ? i have a sound that has a very bad quality, could someone help me to turn it right ? i tried with audacity, but without sucess ... http://www.partage-facile.com/148434-partie_1.wma.html  please i need someone's help
[22:27] <Jason_WT> oh, and are metacity and compiz ones that are te default for ubuntu?
[22:27] <suriro> D0pamine: try to get rid of it using dpkg, not apt. Can you see it with 'dpkg -l adobe*' ?
[22:27] <MutantX> Any ideas on why when I try to join the network, I get " Failed to join domain: failed to find DC for domain MYREALM.ORG "?
[22:27] <fryguy> Koordin-: this isn't the proper channel to discussion sound engineering and audio production
[22:28] <mithraic> bartmon: Fair enough. Just noting that to change it, I had to go to gnome-terminal's preferences.
[22:28] <Koordin-> fryguy: on which chan do i have to go ?
[22:28] <fryguy> Koordin-: no idea, i don't do sound engineering or audio production so i'm not familiar with that community
[22:28] <D0pamine> thanks suriro , will try
[22:28] <DrHackenbush> howdy all. Thinking about buying my wife a used Thinkpad T-42 and throwing Ubuntu on there for her.  All she wants is to be able to browse the internet, view DVDs and keep a couple of pictures.  Anyone know any gotchas or any good reasons why the T-42 would be a bad choice?
[22:29] <rdavila> friends, any ideas about this starnge issue with mi micro: http://www.box.net/shared/55q3c4nypp ?
[22:29] <bartmon> mithraic: oh. Well whatever floats your boat. Do you need F11 for another purpose?
[22:29] <yotux> firefox freezes when I log into gmail
[22:29] <WebcamWonder> fryguy, Do you happen to know where do I put a script to change the RTS of my network card on startup to the value of 2346, rather than the default off. The command has to be executed as a priviledged user (iwconfig wlan0 rts 2346). Right now, I end up doing this on every boot
[22:29] <fryguy> WebcamWonder: no idea, why ask me?
[22:29] <mithraic> yeah, it's the "contextual menu" key for Finch.
[22:29] <mithraic> So I couldn't add a buddy or a chatroom.
[22:29] <WebcamWonder> fryguy: You seem to be the most educated ones around here :)
[22:29] <Jordan_U> Koordin-, #ubuntustudio may be able to point you in hte right direction
[22:29] <fryguy> WebcamWonder: i don't know anything
[22:29] <fryguy> WebcamWonder: maybe you have me confused with someone else
[22:29] <malaeum> Hello, I am trying to get some non-english characters workin. I have setup the compose key and it is working well for me. I am not sure why but recenlty characters with umlauts stopped working when I enter the required key presses I get a system beep yet other chracters still work ß for example. Does anyone have any idea what would cause this and/or how to fix it? Thank you in advance for your help.
[22:30] <Koordin-> thanks Jordan_U
[22:30] <SherlawkDragon> anyone know how to set up GNOME so that I can create files by right clicking other than just blank text files?
[22:30] <WebcamWonder> Does anyone happen to know where do I put a script to change the RTS of my network card on startup to the value of 2346, rather than the default off. The command has to be executed as a priviledged user (iwconfig wlan0 rts 2346). Right now, I end up doing this on every boot
[22:30] <Jordan_U> Koordin-, np
[22:30] <D0pamine> suriro: , i can see it but cant seem to remove it ...
[22:30] <jrib> WebcamWonder: ~/Templates
[22:31] <WebcamWonder> jrib: That would be SherlawkDragon
[22:31] <D0pamine> ii  adobe-flashplu 10.0.12.36-1ha Adobe Flash Player plugin version 10
[22:31] <D0pamine> adobe suck so bad
[22:31] <jrib> SherlawkDragon: ~/Templates/ (sorry WebcamWonder :))
[22:31] <SherlawkDragon> jrib> ahhh, I was trying to figure out what the directory was...
[22:31] <jrib> D0pamine: did you try purging it using dpkg?
[22:31] <SherlawkDragon> and I just put blank versions of files there?
[22:31] <SherlawkDragon> or what?
[22:31] <WebcamWonder> SherlawkDragon: Yeah
[22:32] <D0pamine> jrib , sorry my debian skills are a little rusty - dpkg -r ?
[22:32] <jrib> SherlawkDragon: well, you don't want blank versions, you want some sort of template in there
[22:32] <urchin> hi
[22:32] <yotux> If I have a firefox issue where should I put in on the forum
[22:32] <jrib> D0pamine: I suggested -P, but sure try that
[22:32] <centr0> hmm, i added a group development and my usr to that grp and chmod'd the directories accordingly but komodo still cant write to that dir. any ideas on what to check?
[22:32] <jrib> yotux: #ubuntuforums or just ask your question here
[22:32] <D0pamine> well i did but it doesnt seem to work jrib
[22:32] <centr0> i checked my id on my user and its part of that grp already
[22:32] <jrib> centr0: logout and back in
[22:32] <jrib> D0pamine: output?
[22:33] <peponi> #list
[22:33] <peponi> \list
[22:33] <Psi-Jack> Here's a curious question. I noticed that during Ubuntu 8.10 install, there was no option to setup and create LVM volumes. Is there a means to do this at all somehow?
[22:33] <centr0> jrib: wow so simple lol.  ill try that
[22:33] <SherlawkDragon> jrib> yeah, files with no real data, like a blank ODT
[22:33] <D0pamine> sec lemme just install nopaste
[22:33] <yotux> firefox is freezing when I log into my gmail account
[22:33] <jrib> SherlawkDragon: sure
[22:33] <yotux> Possible flash issue?
[22:33] <fde> Psi-Jack: You have to select "Custom" at the partitioning stage
[22:33] <Psi-Jack> fde: I did, of course.
[22:33] <SherlawkDragon> yotux> I don't know of any Flash in gmail
[22:34] <SherlawkDragon> might be an access or scripting error
[22:34] <WebcamWonder> fryguy: Ok. Do you happen to know any place where the given scripts are executed on system boot iwth higher priviledges?
[22:34] <yotux> I thought the inbox was in flash
[22:34] <fde> Psi-Jack: I'm almost certain its there? If not, try finding the alternative installer... its text mode install, but it definitely has it
[22:34] <urchin> yotux what is your gmail acount
[22:34] <D0pamine> http://pastebin.com/me92146b jrib
[22:34] <vasi> SherlawkDragon: i think it uses flash for the gtalk sounds?
[22:34] <fryguy> WebcamWonder: like i said, no idea, and no idea why you are asking me
[22:34] <yotux> just lots of emails
[22:35] <jrib> D0pamine: and: dpkg -P adobe-flashplugin  ?
[22:35] <urchin> ok
[22:35] <Psi-Jack> fde: Hmm.. I may check again on that, cause if I'm gonna fubar my system putting KDE4.2-beta on, I'll just reinstall and set it up more like I want anyway, with an LVM stripe going on two drives to further improve performance. ;)
[22:35] <fryguy> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a Intel Core2 Machine, P35 motherboard, nvidia card that works with nvidia binary drivers (6800GT).  All 4 current live cds (8.04, 8.10, 32-bit and 64-bit) freeze as soon as I get to the desktop, so I was forced to install using the alternative installer.  Now the installed system exemplifies the same problems as the LiveCDs.  I've done all of the obvious things (and lots of non-obvious), and can not resolve the issue.  Anybod
[22:35] <yotux> when I try to scroll down it pauses and makes the curson freeze
[22:35] <SherlawkDragon> vasi> well, I've never used gtalk... heh...
[22:35] <D0pamine> sweet jrib , thanks man , i'll remember that and the beer i owe ya ;)
[22:35] <SherlawkDragon> let me check
[22:36] <jrib> fryguy: you can't get to a tty after it freezes?
[22:36] <n2diy> anybody know how to modify a language spec. file for Kate, so it will work in Gedit?
[22:36] <fryguy> jrib: i can get to a tty right before it freezes.
[22:36] <sugi> ummmm... my gnome just froze (i think) I can move the mouse around and kinda select files in my nautilus but i can't alt tab anything or change workspaces.   How do i kill gnome within the terminal?
[22:36] <fryguy> jrib: as soon as switch back to gui it freezes
[22:36] <vasi> fryguy: can you boot non-graphically?
[22:36] <der|kunstler> n2diy, go to /usr/share/gtksourceview-2.0/
[22:36] <fryguy> vasi: sure
[22:36] <jrib> fryguy: so you're forced to do a hard reboot then?
[22:36] <fryguy> jrib: yes
[22:36] <fde> Psi-Jack: I keep trying my best to be impressed with KDE4... it just doesn't have anything quite like gnome-do though, so it loses too easily these days
[22:36]  * ElijahDuBarryVT is back (gone 00:18:45)
[22:37] <der|kunstler> how do you change the default colors in xterm ?
[22:37] <SherlawkDragon> yotux> when do you get it?
[22:37] <jrib> fryguy: did you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for anything interesting?
[22:37] <vasi> sugi: you probably just want to ctl-alt-delete to restart X....unless you have files unsaved, then sucks to be you
[22:37] <SherlawkDragon> after you get the loading part?
[22:37] <fryguy> jrib: dmesg and Xorg.0.log provide no errors
[22:37] <fde> der|kunstler: you don't... if you like fancy colors, use gnome-terminal or konsole
[22:37] <jrib> fryguy: using nv now though?
[22:37] <der|kunstler> fde, you can't ? isn't there any config file or something ?
[22:37] <fryguy> jrib: same behavior with nv and all 4 versions of nvidia in ubuntu
[22:37] <vasi> (sorry, ctl-alt-backspace to restart X)
[22:37] <sugi> vasi: thank you i think.....  i do have unsaved stuff.  hwo do i restart gnome??  can i just do it with my "ps -e"?
[22:38] <fde> der|kunstler: nope, 'fraid not... that's why its not very popular  ;)
[22:38] <fryguy> jrib: of note is that all 5 of those drivers work in other operating systems
[22:38] <hallowname> der|kunstler: use 'xterm -fg blue -bg black'
[22:38] <n2diy> der|kunstler, yes, the file goes in the language folder in that dir, but gedit doesn't like the files format.
[22:38] <Psi-Jack> fde: KDE never ceases to amaze me personally. They actually do things pretty well, interface-wise it's tight. For years, things as simple as Evolution STILL doesn't have IMAP IDLE support.
[22:38] <fde> sugi: just log out and back in
[22:38] <vasi> sugi: gnome is a whole environment....
[22:38] <yotux> SherlawkDragon: log into my gmail account and my mouse starts to move really slow if I try to scroll my email inbox
[22:38] <D0pamine> jrib , once again many thanks
[22:38] <hallowname> der|kunstler: or, learn how to configure your .bashrc file with google
[22:38] <fryguy> jrib: i've gone as far as installing linuxfromscratch with an ubuntu patched kernel and the same nvidia drivers, and that works fine
[22:38] <vasi> sugi: do you mean nautilus, maybe?
[22:38] <jrib> D0pamine: np
[22:38] <SherlawkDragon> Yes, Gmail uses flash on their page, but it's hidden
[22:38] <D0pamine> big love <3
[22:38] <SherlawkDragon> hmm...
[22:38] <fde> Psi-Jack: You can use KDE apps without KDE... the desktop itself is weak though
[22:38] <der|kunstler> hallowname, that's what I needed, now I remember that you can change terminal colors through /etc/profile
[22:38] <sugi> vasi:  fde:  son a ..... darn it. it restarted on it's own >.<
[22:38] <test34_> thanks fryguy that did it
[22:38] <hallowname> der|kunstler: yup
[22:38] <SherlawkDragon> try updating firefox is all I can think of
[22:39] <vasi> sugi: if you do mean just nautilus, then try "killall nautilus"
[22:39] <vasi> woops
[22:39] <vasi> too late
[22:39] <der|kunstler> hallowname, had a very long time that didn't deal with those stuff... .bashrc, that's the answer, thanks :D
[22:39] <hallowname> der|kunstler: .bashrc tweakage allows for some sweet terminals tho
[22:39] <SherlawkDragon> if you've got a ploblem with a plugin, it shou;d tell you...
[22:39] <jrib> fryguy: weird, no idea
[22:39] <fde> sugi: if you want to *stop* gnome... /etc/init.d/gdm stop ... start to start it again
[22:39] <der|kunstler> hallowname, yeah, it reminds me in my old gentoo days back in 2004
[22:39] <sugi> vasi: no nautilus was working, but...
[22:39] <SherlawkDragon> yotux> what view of the site are you using?
[22:39] <hallowname> der|kunstler: heh, im on gentoo now
[22:39] <SherlawkDragon> old?  new?  text?
[22:39] <Psi-Jack> fde: Actually.... It's even better than before. Gnome doesn't have the Plasma Desktop or anything close, which I actually like, quite a lot. Minimize to desktop by itself, sucks, but having widgets that are there, and the Dashboard overlap things, instead of minimize things, is a much cleaner more useful approach.
[22:40] <der|kunstler> hallowname, :P
[22:40] <der|kunstler> hallowname, gentoo guys make pretty good terminal configuration, I really love gentoo's colors
[22:40] <ized> hi all! a problem i could not solve via google: how can i convert .emf-files (windows enhanced metafile graphics) to .svg (scalable vector graphic) under linux/ubuntu??
[22:40] <hallowname> der|kunstler: hehe
[22:40] <fde> Psi-Jack: I used what became KDE4.2 up until about 4 days ago... I doubt its changed much in that time...
[22:40] <der|kunstler> hallowname, well, gotta keep working, thanks for your help
[22:40] <sugi> vasi: fde: thanks anyways.  i lost my stuff but oh well.
[22:40] <hallowname> fde: Psi-Jack: let's not frag on kde4 unless we program for it eh ?
[22:40] <hallowname> der|kunstler: yup
[22:40] <fde> Psi-Jack: Nothing that Plasma brings can't be done on other desktops... KDE itself is just poor
[22:41] <fde> hallowname: I had like 10 patches for KDE3, does that count?
[22:41] <yotux> SherlawkDragon: If I use the old verision it work fine,  the new verision is where it starts to bog down
[22:41] <Psi-Jack> Heh
[22:41] <Psi-Jack> Anyway, time to run KDE4.2
[22:41] <joaquinm> hi guys
[22:41] <joaquinm> any op around ?
[22:41] <hallowname> fde: haha, kde4 isn't done... or close... trunk is shaping up nice actually... im on it now...
[22:41] <SherlawkDragon> hmm...
[22:41] <joaquinm> we have a troll problem in #ubuntu-es we need some help there
[22:41] <SherlawkDragon> yotux> it's new, it's still WIP
[22:42] <joaquinm> someone knows whats the exact syntax of !ops ?
[22:42] <fde> hallowname: As I just said, I was running what got branched for beta2 4 days ago
[22:42] <fde> hallowname: not impressed at all
[22:42] <Neff> so how do i use ntfs-config to mount /dev/sda1 permanently
[22:42] <SherlawkDragon> try updating firefox, if that doesn't work, wait a little while on the new version.
[22:42] <Neff> i don't understand how this does anything
[22:42] <hallowname> fde: that's ok... cuz were not done with it :P but u'll like it sooner or later :P
[22:42] <fde> joaquinm: !ops someone <whatever they're doing wrong>
[22:42] <fryguy> Neff: just add the entry to /etc/fstab
[22:42] <mrwes> re
[22:42] <Neff> i don't know what the entry should be
 <mountpoint> <filesystem> <mountoptions>
[22:43] <Neff> ok
[22:43] <yotux> SherlawkDragon: so would use suggest using the old version?
[22:43] <kindofabuzz> I don't know what casued it, maybe a flash update. but my flash is installed but firefox does not see it. i go to a site and get the popup and hit to install and it just says it's already installed. what can i do?
[22:43] <kindofabuzz> it was working
[22:43] <jrib> joaquinm: use #ubuntu-irc
[22:43] <fde> hallowname: I hope so... but I'm not sure what its bringing that screenlets/telepathy/gstreamer/etc isn't already
[22:43] <vasi> kindofabuzz: there's a flash-setup program that will reset these things
[22:44] <kindofabuzz> vasi, what's it called?
[22:44] <SherlawkDragon> yotux> yes, that's what I meant by waiting on the new version
[22:44] <hallowname> fde: ease of code, plasmoids from javascript and python...
[22:44] <vasi> kindofabuzz: i don't remember the name, but try   dpkg -L <your-flash-package> | grep setup
[22:44] <kindofabuzz> k
[22:44] <hallowname> fde: super-easy to learn how... gtk is complex
[22:44] <joaquinm> jrib, thx
[22:44] <SherlawkDragon> but first, try forcing an update on firefox
[22:44] <kindofabuzz> i have
[22:44] <fryguy> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a Intel Core2 Machine, P35 motherboard, nvidia card that works with nvidia binary drivers (6800GT).  All 4 current live cds (8.04, 8.10, 32-bit and 64-bit) freeze as soon as I get to the desktop, so I was forced to install using the alternative installer.  Now the installed system exemplifies the same problems as the LiveCDs.  I've done all of the obvious things (and lots of non-obvious), and can not resolve the issue.  Anybod
[22:45] <oobuntu> Hello, my USB mouse stopped working in Ubuntu Hardy (apparently after an update). How can I fix it?
[22:45] <yotux> SherlawkDragon: Thanks I did not sign up for the new version it just appeared
[22:45] <fde> hallowname: those aren't advantages to KDE though, they're advantages to the apps... which you can use in any desktop
[22:46] <mrwes> fryguy: you try booting into rescue mode?
[22:46] <kindofabuzz> vasi, was i supposed to see anything with that?
[22:46] <fryguy> mrwes: and do what with it. i have no problems getting a command line even from a normal boot
[22:46] <bigjon> I have a question regarding the firestarter policy definition under version 8. According to the dialog I can define a "network" - how is the question.  I only managed to define a single IP address or name. I want to define a network (may with a subnet). Found nothing on the web regarding this. Can anyone help????
[22:46] <mrwes> fryguy: rerun Xorg conf from there and see if that'll help
[22:46] <fryguy> mrwes: it doesn't
[22:47] <fde> hallowname: one thing that has made me mad since KDE2 days... kio_* memory leaks... and they're still not fixed... gnome has more paid guys, so they do the boring stuff that keeps everything sane
[22:47] <mrwes> fryguy: k
[22:47] <ized> please! a problem i could not solve via google: how can i convert .emf-files (windows enhanced metafile graphics) to .svg (scalable vector graphic) under linux/ubuntu??
[22:47] <fryguy> mrwes: i've used 5 different drivers, drivers that are known to work with my card in my specific hardware configuration
[22:47] <Neff> fryguy: how do i open fstab with write permissions
[22:47] <fryguy> Neff: use sudo
[22:47] <Neff> sudo fstab?
[22:47] <fryguy> Neff: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[22:47] <Neff> ok thx
[22:47] <vasi> ized: does batik do it?
[22:48] <ized> vasi: i don't know batik
[22:48] <hallowname> fde: really? never had an issue with it...
[22:48] <hallowname> fde: kde systems up for 8months+ here...
[22:48] <karimaz> hi my laptop doesnt shutdown completely
[22:48] <fde>  hallowname ps -e | grep kio ... I bet you have 20+ of them
[22:49] <Jason_WT> is there any reason the linux filesystem is so hard and complicated to understand
[22:49] <fde> hallowname: over that period, probably more like 50
[22:49] <qmemo> Hi all, can some verify partial Net cables cut off in Egypt  ?
[22:49] <Scunizi_> ized: convert from imagemagick might do it.. but it might be better to go to png first.
[22:49] <marcustr> hello?
[22:49] <templaedhel> hi
[22:49] <karimaz> after progressbar it stops
[22:49] <fde> hallowname: would hate to see your memory consumption too
[22:49] <kindofabuzz> vasi, a total reinstall of the plugin worked though.
[22:49] <phix> hey, how do I disable the network manager? or at least get it to stop enabling DHCP on eth0 (as eth0 is in a bridge)
[22:49] <fryguy> Jason_WT: it's pretty straightforward.  some cause for concern is because it tries to follow posix as well as other standards.  Read the FHS (filesystem hierarchy standard), and it becomes pretty obvious
[22:49] <kindofabuzz> i just wonder how it dissappeared
[22:49] <ized> Scunizi: thank you - i will try
[22:49] <fde> ized: all I can see that looks helpful is transfig
[22:50] <suriro> ized: install libwmf-bin
[22:50] <templaedhel> ANyone Here good with partitons??
[22:50] <Jason_WT> it is so full of different folders where indows just has users and programs files, not root and boot and mht, etc
[22:50] <fryguy> !ask | templaedhel
[22:50] <ized> vasi: thanks
[22:50] <phix> templaedhel: me me!
[22:50] <hischild> templaedhel, what you need done?
[22:50] <mrwes> fryguy: that is weird, Ubuntu should detect that card
[22:50] <fryguy> mrwes: yes, i know
[22:50] <phix> templaedhel: what's up?
[22:50] <fryguy> mrwes: and several other operating systems DO detect the card
[22:50] <templaedhel> just a sec I'm typing it
[22:51] <mrwes> fryguy: mem is OK?
[22:51] <Jason_WT> templaedhel: i am good with them
[22:51] <Guest13720> how to update wine
[22:51] <Guest13720> :-/
[22:51] <Guest13720> plz help
[22:51] <scawt> hey guise, is there an enlightenment 17 repository for ibex?
[22:51] <fryguy> mrwes: memtests for 48+ hours, other linuxes have been installed on this machine for years. it's not a hardware problem
[22:51] <mrwes> fryguy: Ok...just running through the obvious :)
[22:51] <Guest13720> do i have to reinstall wine
[22:51] <oobuntu> my USB mouse stopped working... any help, please?
[22:52] <fryguy> mrwes: like i mentioned in the original statement, i've done everything obvious
[22:52] <mrwes> yah
[22:52] <Andrei> Hi. i like ubuntu very muchm but i have a lot of problems woth it. I can't configure microphone,webcam, java programs(like netbeans) works slow,it don't see my floppy, and other. Please, suggest a solution!!!
[22:52]  * raylu wonders is memtesting for 48 hours had an affect on the ram
[22:52] <fde> fryguy: can you get into the system at all?
[22:52] <raylu> *if
[22:52] <karimaz> does anyone have shutdown problem
[22:52] <fryguy> mrwes: i've gone as far as using a linuxfromscratch install with an ubuntu patched kernel and the same drivers that ubuntu provides (all 5 of them)
[22:52] <fryguy> fde: yes, just not X11 desktop
[22:52] <templaedhel> okay so this is my setup right now http://imagebin.org/33966 but when I boot windows it gets to the screen before the welcome screen and then hangs
[22:52] <raylu> fryguy: make sure the clip on the ethernet cable is in XD
[22:52] <fryguy> raylu: i have no network issues
[22:53] <raylu> fryguy: oh, i thought you were here for that yesterday
[22:53] <fde> fryguy: does your lsmod look good? nvidia binary drivers installed and loading fine etc etc?
[22:53] <hallowname> fde: haha i have 4 kio daemons running
[22:53] <oobuntu> I already looked in Google for a solution but can't find it :( my USB mouse stopped working
[22:53] <fryguy> fde: yes, all 5 sets of nvidia drivers load fine, and proceed to cause the exact same behavior, whereas all 5 drivers will proceed to work in another operating system
[22:53] <mrwes> fryguy: have your tried booting with a previous kernel?
[22:53] <FreeFull> How do I find out which driver is used for my wireless card?
[22:53] <fryguy> mrwes: there is only 1 kernel
[22:54] <Jason_WT> templaedhel: what screen does it get to before the welcome screen
[22:54] <YaroMan86> Help! I'm getting ata errors from the kernel. I did a quick SMART test from my BIOS and got negative results (No errors.) fsck found and fixed many many many ext2 errors, but the problms still persist. Need help.
[22:54] <fryguy> mrwes: well theres 2 now because I updated, but they are both yielding the same behavior
[22:54] <mrwes> fryguy: ahh...this is a fresh install?
[22:54] <fryguy> mrwes: yes
[22:54] <mrwes> ok...
[22:54] <fde> Andrei: If your webcam isn't plug and play, then it won't work... have you tried using it in something like Ekiga? Microphone, just make sure the mic volume is turned up in Volume Control and alsamixer... java programs, ensure you have sun java not openjdk
[22:54] <fde> hallowname: then you lied about uptime
[22:55] <mrwes> fryguy: and the 5 pound sledge hammer doesn't work :)
[22:55] <Schuenemann> hey, how do I record an ISO to a CD using dd?
[22:55] <suriro> fryguy: any clue in Xorg.0.log ?
[22:55] <fryguy> Schuenemann: you don't, you need to use burning software
[22:55] <fde> fryguy: where are you getting the drivers from? do you have the xorg-driver-nvidia package installed?
[22:55] <Schuenemann> fryguy, it is impossible?
[22:55] <fryguy> suriro: as already stated there are no errors in Xorg.log
[22:55] <fryguy> fde: yes
[22:55] <baddog> hello, what's Ubuntu's equivalent of /etc/rc.conf ?
[22:55] <fryguy> Schuenemann: yes
[22:55] <templaedhel> Jason_WT: it just says windows xp in little letters
[22:56] <fde> fryguy: that only answers half my question
[22:56] <Schuenemann> fryguy, weird is that I did dd if=iso of=/dev/cdrom and it says it was copied... I wonder where it is now...
[22:56] <FreeFull> How do I find out which driver is used for my wireless card?
[22:56] <kindofabuzz> google your wireless card?
[22:56] <hallowname> fde: oh yea, this machine just finished compiling trunk, so it's only been on for about a day and a half
[22:56] <fryguy> fde: i've tried all 5 drivers that are available from the ubuntu repositories.  i've then gone ahead and proceeded to use these same drivers in other operating systems and have all 5 work correctly
[22:56] <FreeFull> kindofabuzz: doesn't say
[22:56] <hallowname> fde: im not near the others i mentioned
[22:56] <fde> Schuenemann: it'll be /dev/cdrom ... which is fine because your cdrom is /dev/sr0
[22:56] <nodealmsft> does anyone know why my OS will not pick pickup my memory past .2
[22:57] <nodealmsft> 2.8 gigs
[22:57] <ganymede> FreeFull, if you want to know which driver is CURRENTLY used, you can use lshw. if you want to find out which driver you should be using...google
[22:57] <fryguy> nodealmsft: you need to use 64-bit os, not 32-bit
[22:57] <nodealmsft> thankx
[22:57] <fde> hallowname: keep an eye on it  ;)
[22:57] <FreeFull> ganymede: Thanks for the lshw tip
[22:57] <Schuenemann> fde, how come? isn't my CD /dev/cdrom?
[22:57] <YaroMan86> Help! I'm getting ata errors from the kernel. I did a quick SMART test from my BIOS and got negative results (No errors.) fsck found and fixed many many many ext2 errors, but the problms still persist. Need help.Here is my dmesg output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/88830/
[22:57] <fde> Schuenemann: I just said your cdrom is /dev/sr0
[22:57] <Schuenemann> fde, I always extract the ISO with dd if=/dev/cdrom of=isofile
[22:58] <mrwes> I thought he was asking how to use dd to copy an iso to the cd? no?
[22:59] <fde> Schuenemann: well, actually, that's linked to /dev/cdrom.. my bad
[22:59] <Schuenemann> fde, sorry, what is /dev/cdrom for, then?
[22:59] <fde> Schuenemann: its a symlink
[22:59] <kindofabuzz> umm your cdrom
[22:59] <FreeFull> ganymede: It doesn't say which driver is used
[22:59] <YaroMan86> Is no one going to help me?
[22:59] <Schuenemann> fde, then I broke the link I guess
[22:59] <kindofabuzz> all your hardware will be in /dev
[22:59] <fryguy> !patience | YaroMan86
[22:59] <FreeFull> YaroMan86: Try asking on the forums
[22:59] <mrwes> maybe it's cdrom1
[23:00] <culb> fryguy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5086971&postcount=6 works for me every time
[23:00] <fde> Schuenemann: one, why are you just using wodim? two, why would you think that is the correct way to burn an image? cd's are more complicated than simply floppy drives
[23:00] <ganymede> FreeFull, i get a line like this under my wireless card: "configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ath_pci ip=192.168.1.101 latency=168 maxlatency=28 mingnt=10 module=ath_pci multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11g" there, the module=ath_pci indicates the driver
[23:00] <fde> mrwes: no, its /dev/scd0 .. which /dev/sr0 and /dev/cdrom both are symlinked to
[23:00] <Schuenemann> fde, I was testing... what should I do now?
[23:00] <Schuenemann> recreate the link?
[23:01] <fryguy> culb: envy drivers don't work
[23:01] <ganymede> FreeFull, or better yet, the driver=ath_pci indicates it. are you running lshw as sudo?
[23:01] <fryguy> culb: they yield the same behavior as all of the others on ubuntu, and work on other operating systems
[23:01] <fde> Schuenemann: you should 'wodim --data /path/to/whatever.iso' and stop thinking so much  :P
[23:01] <FreeFull> ganymede: I don't get the driver= part
[23:01] <YaroMan86> Help! I'm getting ata errors from the kernel. I did a quick SMART test from my BIOS and got negative results (No errors.) fsck found and fixed many many many ext2 errors, but the problms still persist. Need help.Here is my dmesg output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/88830/
[23:01] <FreeFull> ganymede: and yes, i'm running it as sudo
[23:01] <Schuenemann> fde, heh
[23:01]  * ElijahDuBarryVT is away: I'm not here, please try again latter!
[23:01] <Schuenemann> fde, what about that link? should I create it again?
[23:02] <kindofabuzz> YaroMan86, you may have more luck with that in #linux instead of here
[23:02] <FreeFull> ganymede: I can pastebin it to show you
[23:02] <culb> fryguy that guide removes all drivers and installs drivers from nvidia
[23:03] <fryguy> yes, and those drivers don't work either
[23:03] <leewang> hello agian ubuntu community
[23:03] <fryguy> culb: as i've said, i've tried 5 sets of drivers
[23:03] <FreeFull> ganymede: http://pastebin.com/m20c4b1d0
[23:03] <leewang> whats your card?
[23:03] <test34_> my nvidia driver work
[23:03] <fde> Schuenemann: It'll have kept the link fine... its just what exactly dd would do to an actual device... I imagine it just threw gobbldygook on the disc if anything...
[23:03] <fryguy> culb: all 5 exhibit the same behavior in ubuntu, and all 5 work in other operating systems
[23:03] <fryguy> leewang: nvidia 6800GT
[23:04] <fde> Schuenemann: ls -l /dev/cdrom ... how big does it say it is?
[23:04] <Schuenemann> fde, almost 700MB lol
[23:04] <anon> Anyone experiencing Video freezing issues during playback in VLC?
[23:04] <anon> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=972696
[23:04] <Schuenemann> I messed it
[23:04] <leewang> brb
[23:04] <anon> it starts showing up after a few hours
[23:04] <fde> Schuenemann: did anything end up on the disc? lol
[23:04] <WildRhyno> help
[23:04] <test34_> I have a FX1400 and it works fine
[23:04] <FreeFull> ganymede: Also, google doesn't return any relevant results
[23:04] <WildRhyno> help with filezilla
[23:04] <phix> anon: no, I am using VLC now :)
[23:04] <anon> happens under kernel 2.6.27-7 and kernel 2.6.27-9
[23:05] <phix> anon: Watching MacGyver with VLC now :P
[23:05] <WildRhyno> please
[23:05] <Schuenemann> fde, disc = dvd? No. It overwrote /dev/cdrom I guess. It is 700 MB now
[23:05] <WildRhyno> quickconnect?
[23:05] <WebcamWonder> WildRhyno: ?
[23:05] <FreeFull> ganymede: Any ideas?
[23:05] <anon> phix, i did a fresh ubuntu 8.10 install, no upgrading
[23:05] <WebcamWonder> WildRhyno: What is the problem with FileZilla?
[23:05] <anon> and i've been experiencing this issue for weeks
[23:05] <ganymede> FreeFull, sorry, i don't know. you have an IP so i'm guessing it's working fine...you just don't know which module is making it work? i don't know then, sorry
[23:05] <Schuenemann> fde, I think I should delete it and then make the symlink again
[23:05] <fde> Schuenemann: I'm honestly not sure what you should do there then... what does ls -l /dev/scd0 say for size?
[23:06] <leewang> theres an nvida package for ubuntu well linux for that matter that i installed for my shit card and it worked fine it support 6800 to i belive ill try trace that linkage down for you
[23:06] <Schuenemann> fde, brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2008-12-19 16:17 /dev/scd0
[23:06] <FreeFull> ganymede: It's just that I need to set up WPA and can't use networkmanager to do that
[23:06] <fde> Schuenemann: deleting it will delete the links.. although udev should recreate it on reboot
[23:06] <phix> anon: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:06] <fde> Schuenemann: and /dev/sr0 ?
[23:06] <anon> is it possible to install kernel 2.6.24-21 on a fresh Ubuntu 8.10 install
[23:06] <fryguy> leewang: if the driver is in the ubuntu repositories or nvidia.com i've used it
[23:06] <Schuenemann> fde, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2008-12-19 19:17 /dev/sr0 -> scd0
[23:06] <phix> anon: yes
[23:06] <anon> no upgrade etc
[23:07] <Schuenemann> fde, /dev/cdrom is just an ordinary file now: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 714407936 2008-12-19 19:52 /dev/cdrom
[23:07] <anon> the posters in that thread state that problems went away under 2.6.24-21
[23:07] <leewang> and it didnt work?
[23:07] <fde> Schuenemann: ok, then its safe to remove it... sudo rm -f /dev/cdrom && ln -s /dev/scd0 /dev/cdrom
[23:08] <anon> phix, how would you go about it?
[23:08] <phix> anon: sudo apt-get install kernel-package build-essentials; wget -c "ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.27.10.tar.bz2"
[23:09] <FreeFull> ganymede: my wifi card is netgear wg111v3, and it worked out of the box. ndiswrapper doesn't show any windows drivers installed, so I assume it's not using ndiswrapper
[23:09] <leewang> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_177.82.html i dont belive i got mine from ubuntu sorce i grabed it here from nvida
[23:09] <anon> phix, i'm trying to find a way to install 2.6.24-21 under a fresh install of Ubuntu 8.10
[23:09] <anon> without breaking anything
[23:09] <chazco> Hi.. i'm trying to connect my projector to my Ubuntu PC using s-video. Its a nvidia 7200GS card which i bought for this purpose. However, i either get a cannot set metamode error (in nvidia-settings) or if it does accept settings the projector remains blank. Any ideas?
[23:09] <fde> anon: you don't want to... it'll break even more stuff
[23:09] <Schuenemann> fde, alright, thanks
[23:10] <phix> anon: just get the latest kernel version
[23:10] <rww> !kernel | anon
[23:10] <anon> fde, that's what i was affraid of
[23:10] <fde> anon: I wasn't paying attn, what exactly is the issue?
[23:10] <anon> fde
[23:10] <anon> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=972696
[23:10] <phix> anon: any reason for that version?
[23:11] <leewang> anyone know were ubuntu hides its partition program since i want to reinstall my sys's but want to part of my 31 gig of documents music and vids
[23:11] <anon> essentially i installed Ubuntu 8.10 fresh
[23:11] <anon> no upgrade
[23:11] <Schuenemann> fde, wodim doesn't work, though. It says incompatible medium
[23:11] <anon> installed vlc 0.9.4 from synaptic
[23:11] <Schuenemann> incompatible format, actyally
[23:11] <phix> anon: ok
[23:11]  * ElijahDuBarryVT is away: I'm not here, please try again latter!
[23:11] <fde> Schuenemann: yuck
[23:11] <anon> after a few hours vlc starts to drop/skip/freeze randomly during video playback
[23:11] <anon> every time this happens
[23:11] <rww> !away > ElijahDuBarryVT
[23:12] <systm> for some reason, i can no longer hear audio nor see video with Firefox
[23:12] <ganymede> FreeFull, it might be p54. http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Devices <-- look under the table for PCI and USB and look for your card
[23:12] <phix> anon: awesome
[23:12] <leewang> yea
[23:12] <anon> there is usually a CPU spike in xorg
[23:12] <anon> lol
[23:12] <leewang> fire fox is a bitch
[23:12] <mrwes> anno: you running compiz, with visual effects turned on?
[23:12] <leewang> its the new flash from abobe
[23:12] <FreeFull> ganymede: thanks
[23:12] <anon> phix, i'm trying to troubleshoot
[23:12] <Schuenemann> fde, it's a CD ISO to a DVD... perhaps the command isn't that simple then
[23:12] <lord_hypnos> sers
[23:12] <anon> and need help
[23:12] <systm> leewang: me?
[23:12] <leewang> yea
[23:12] <anon> done about all i can
[23:12] <itsatrick> quit
[23:12] <leewang> sry
[23:13] <leewang> i had same problem today after an upgrade
[23:13] <systm> leewang: suggestions? and its not that, it doesnt play video anymore, like if i click on an mpg or avi
[23:13] <kindofabuzz> leewang, ff not seing the flash?
[23:13] <leewang> i went to empity  i think its called
[23:13] <fde> Schuenemann: it should be... although you might not have dvd+rw-tools  installed?
[23:13] <ganymede> FreeFull, under USB, i see this line: p54usb  	Netgear  	WG111 V2
[23:13] <phix> anon: /quit life then? is that the next option?
[23:14] <kindofabuzz> leewang, i had the same problem FF not seeing Flash, all i did was totally uninstall flash and reinstall and it recognized it
[23:14] <WebcamWonder> systm: MPG and AVI inside firefox isn't handled by flash. They are handled by plugins that support these
[23:14] <Schuenemann> fde, dunno... I can record with brasero
[23:14] <systm> leewang: epihany
[23:14] <karimaz> i have a problem when shutdown my laptop it stops after progress bar and the the power doesnt off
[23:14] <fde> anon: I don't think that would be a kernel issue... you have installed the correct video card drivers?
[23:14] <Schuenemann> fde, I assume I do
[23:14] <leewang> epiphany
[23:14] <anon> fde yes
[23:14] <systm> WebcamWonder: i know im just stating that, maybe have to re get gstreamer?
[23:14] <leewang> iv only installed it today but it fixed the problem i was having with the youtube videos
[23:14] <fde> Schuenemann: then you should be able to use wodim... as brasero is just a front end for wodim and other tools
[23:14] <anon> 177.80 through synaptic
[23:14] <FreeFull> ganymede: v3 doesn't seem to be listed
[23:15] <WebcamWonder> systm: You have to get the plugins. IIRC vlc-mozilla-plugin and gnome mplayer have the plugins for firefox
[23:15] <fde> Schuenemann: try Brasero now... is it still working? I think your fun dd command might have messed it up...
[23:15] <anon> problem doesn't show up right away, only after a few hours
[23:15] <systm> WebcamWonder: i was using gstreamer and not vlc to play mpg/avi
[23:15] <fde> A few hours of watching movies?
[23:16] <anon> fde, a few hours of system uptime
[23:16] <leewang> whats gstreamer like?
[23:16] <ganymede> FreeFull, hopefully, it just means the table is out of date, and hopefully WG111v2 and WG111v3 use the same driver. also, are you sure it's not WG511v3 under PCI? i can't really offer any help beyond pointing you to those speadsheets. look around on wireless.kernel.org, there might be a mailing list you can ask for further detail
[23:16] <anon> if the system is rebooted, the problem does not show up
[23:16] <fde> leewang: its the best media backend around, it just lacks functionality  :/
[23:16] <fde> leewang: for movies, I'd recommend mplayer
[23:16] <leewang> really iv been using totem no problem
[23:16] <Psi-Jack> VLC FTW!
[23:17] <WebcamWonder> systm: Sorry. Got no clue. Never used gstreamer other than a few applications using it here and there
[23:17] <techlabb> But VLC is SOOO Ugly
[23:17] <fde> leewang: playing DVD's? playing all codecs you throw at it?
[23:17] <FreeFull> ganymede: It is USB and it is model WG111v3
[23:17] <WebcamWonder> Psi-Jack: mplayer!
[23:17] <Psi-Jack> VLC? Ugly? Ya gotta be kidding me.
[23:17] <corinth> Does anyone know where wbar stores its settings?
[23:17] <centaur5> Ever since a flash drive was plugged into a mac Ubuntu mounts it as read only. Is there a quick fix?
[23:17] <leewang> yea
[23:17] <fde> Psi-Jack: Never got on that bandwagon... I just use the backend stuff that got VLC its name, and use a better frontend
[23:17] <karimaz> what is the best vedio app?
[23:17] <Psi-Jack> It's a fricken window with a movie playing inside it with a few small buttons.
[23:17] <leewang> so far its played everything i tryed
[23:18] <fde> karimaz: mplayer
[23:18] <Odd-rationale> !best
[23:18] <Schuenemann> fde, it says the formatting failed arghg
[23:18] <Odd-rationale> i personally like mplayer....
[23:18] <fde> Odd-rationale: that is false in this case  :P
[23:18] <Shirakawasuna> Does anyone here know how to fix the 'uncleanly shut down' message I almost always seem to get w/ this eeepc?  It seems to be uncleanly unmounting the sdcard
[23:18] <techlabb> PSI  ... Functionality is there .. but it looks like crap
[23:18] <leewang> i prefer winamp over everything but havent went to see if there is linux version but i dounbt it
[23:18] <DigitalFiz> VLC is my choice
[23:18] <FreeFull> mplayer can play in framebuffer, which is a major plus for me
[23:18] <anon> fde ok to pm?
[23:18] <fde> Schuenemann: reboot and try again... perhaps udev will recreate it... cross your fingers it does, as I have no idea where to go from there
[23:19] <Psi-Jack> techlabb: Looks fine to me. What do you want? Some anamorphic fading thing that has more eye-candy than functionality and reliability? ;)
[23:19] <fde> anon: umm, sure
[23:19] <Schuenemann> fde, damn... alright
[23:19] <leewang> well i do perfer eye candy over functionality
[23:19] <leewang> to a point
[23:19] <Psi-Jack> Too much eye-candy == Slow
[23:20] <leewang> the biggest seller for me on ubuntu was the desktop cube lol
[23:20] <kindofabuzz> function before fashion
[23:20] <fryguy> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a Intel Core2 Machine, P35 motherboard, nvidia card that works with nvidia binary drivers (6800GT).  All 4 current live cds (8.04, 8.10, 32-bit and 64-bit) freeze as soon as I get to the desktop, so I was forced to install using the alternative installer.  Now the installed system exemplifies the same problems as the LiveCDs.  I've done all of the obvious things (and lots of non-obvious), and can not resolve the issue.  Anybod
[23:20] <leewang> slow? i didnt think it was possibly for linux systems to run slow
[23:21] <pilky> a
[23:21] <pilky> wewps sorry
[23:21] <kindofabuzz> it can run slow if you have an older computer and too much candy
[23:21] <FreeFull> ganymede: lsusb says Bus 004 Device 003: ID 0846:4260 NetGear, Inc. WG111v3 802.11g Adapter [realtek RTL8187B]
[23:21] <FreePBX4279> :">
[23:21] <pilky> wtf was that
[23:21] <leewang> lol get that cd that runs off the cd and install from that
[23:22] <joshk> in the nautilus prefs there's an option to open F-Spot on storage devices taht contain photos. is there a way to use a custom command for that?
[23:22] <joshk> i'm using an eeepc and want something a little slimmer
[23:22] <ganymede> FreeFull, i don't know what to do with that information if it's not on the device spreadsheets, sorry
[23:22] <FreeFull> joshk: get a smartphone then
[23:22] <joshk> har de har
[23:22] <joshk> i was referring to f-spot, not the eee
[23:23] <leewang> kindofabuzz... ok in that case i could see it running slow
[23:23] <kindofabuzz> leewang, yeah not everyone has a brand new computer. hell mine is almost 7 years old i think
[23:23] <kindofabuzz> 1.5Ghz p4
[23:23] <FreeFull> leewang: Everything can run slow if you try
[23:24] <leewang> me eather umm 4 years amd 64fx 2 gig and crappy pny geforce
[23:24] <kindofabuzz> with a geforce ti 440 with the fan broke
[23:24] <kindofabuzz> 4400
[23:24] <leewang> ugh that sucks
[23:24] <kindofabuzz> not really, ubuntu runs great
[23:24] <ganymede> kindofabuzz, i use to run ubuntu on a computer that was like 12 years old
[23:24] <FreeFull> kindofabuzz: replace the fan
[23:25] <leewang> agreed
[23:25] <kindofabuzz> can't really play any new games though, but if i want to game that's what consoles are for
[23:25] <leewang> i came from fedora ugh made me more sexualy into windows then anything else lol
[23:25] <kindofabuzz> FreeFull, i'm just going to get a new 'puter soon hopefully
[23:25] <FreeFull> I play SNES and N64 games. Emulation babe!
[23:25] <kindofabuzz> then i will turn this into a server, that will make 3 serers lol
[23:25] <kindofabuzz> yeah i got all the SNES games and zsnes
[23:25] <leewang> yea and then i will enviy you :*( lol
[23:26] <Schuenemann> fde, it's not working... I tried brasero and k3b
[23:26] <kindofabuzz> anyone know of a lighter photo editor other than gimp? i don't need all those options
[23:27] <leewang> paint lol
[23:27] <kindofabuzz> this isn't windows bother
[23:27] <kindofabuzz> brother*
[23:27] <leewang> ll
[23:27] <fde> Schuenemann: that is very bad, next time, don't do random commands without understanding what they do  ;)
[23:27] <leewang> lol
[23:27] <gulp> ubuntuuuuuuuuuu
[23:27] <Schuenemann> yeah, that was stupid
[23:27] <fde> Schuenemann: especially in /dev /proc or /sys
[23:28] <gulp> great channel
[23:28] <leewang> o shit speack of M$ there new version M$ 7 is only vista with out the premission scripts poping up all the time
[23:28] <faemir> I installed ubuntu on a friend's computer, which has a radeon 9200. It had compositing on by default, and had no restricted driver available. What driver /is/ it using? I'm impressed
[23:28] <fryguy> leewang: that is not true at all
[23:28] <fde> !language | leewang
[23:28] <leewang> yes
[23:28] <\Kira> What is a LPAE-complaint distro?
[23:28] <gulp> how many people here, i never see
[23:28] <leewang> sry
[23:28] <Schuenemann> fde, I thought I was accessing the cd...
[23:29] <zetheroo> has anyone gotten clone screen to work ?
[23:29] <fde> Schuenemann: nope... dd is raw copy from file to file... you could have done damage to your physical drive
[23:29] <fde> Schuenemann: cdroms need logic to know how to write to them... dd doesn't do that
[23:30] <Schuenemann> fde, I don't think that is possible..
[23:30] <gulp> anyone advise me,what distro linux for my pc? 900 amd 128 ram
[23:30] <sachael> hi, i'm trying to convert an avi to mp4, but ffmpeg won't do i because of a problem with the vorbis audio. it plays fine in mplayer. is there a way to force it ignore this? (Extradata corrupt)
[23:30] <fde> Schuenemann: oh it is
[23:30] <Schuenemann> fde, why don't viruses or crackers do stuff like that, then?
[23:30] <fryguy> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a Intel Core2 Machine, P35 motherboard, nvidia card that works with nvidia binary drivers (6800GT).  All 4 current live cds (8.04, 8.10, 32-bit and 64-bit) freeze as soon as I get to the desktop, so I was forced to install using the alternative installer.  Now the installed system exemplifies the same problems as the LiveCDs.  I've done all of the obvious things (and lots of non-obvious), and can not resolve the issue.  Anybod
[23:30] <fryguy> Schuenemann: because they need root access
[23:31] <fde> sachael: perhaps try mencoder instead?
[23:31] <tiyowan> fryguy: Did ikonia's tests come up with anything?
[23:31] <gulp> anyone advise me,what distro linux for my pc? 900 amd 128 ram
[23:31] <fryguy> tiyowan: no
[23:31] <sachael> fde, well, i just did, but the audio is displaced
[23:31] <fryguy> gulp: ubuntu
[23:31] <FreeFull> Schuenemann: Obtaining root access on *nix systems is generally hard
[23:31] <Bsims> dumb question but why does inconsolata font do line drawings correctly on ubuntu but not in Putty on windows
[23:31] <FreeFull> Bsims: Windows sucks
[23:32] <Schuenemann> what about windoze users that are navigating as admin?
[23:32] <Bsims> FreeFull: Indeed thus the ssh tunnel to my home machine
[23:32] <leewang> lol
[23:32] <gulp> ubuntu is a live cd
[23:32] <zetheroo> I have a LCD plugged into my machine .... its resolution is 1280x1024 ... and the laptop screen res is 1680x1050 .... but on the laptop LCD the gnome-panel does not go across the entire screen and AWN sits about an inch off the bottom of the screen ... any suggestions?
[23:32] <fryguy> gulp: among other things, yes.
[23:32] <fryguy> gulp: point being what?
[23:32] <karl_> tell Bsims I think encoding problem
[23:33] <FreeFull> zetheroo: did you right click on the panel and look at the settings?
[23:33] <gulp> ubuntu how may cd?
[23:33] <Enselic> Bsims: probably wrong character encoding moe
[23:33] <gulp> can i install additional program?
[23:33] <zetheroo> ﻿FreeFull: yes and its supposed to cover the width of the screen
[23:33] <karl_> Can anyone sugest me a notebook (something P8400 or alike based) that I can use with Ubuntu
[23:33] <fryguy> gulp: you boot the livecd and run the installer
[23:33] <FreeFull> zetheroo: You might want to create separate panels for each screen
[23:33] <Schuenemann> okay, so what should I do now? I need my cd drive back! :-/
[23:34] <zetheroo> ﻿FreeFull: but I an cloning the screen ... its the same panel on each
[23:34] <Bsims> Enselic: I made sure its considering anything via the ssh tunnel utf8
[23:34] <zetheroo> ﻿FreeFull: is there a way to extend the screen instead of clone?
[23:34] <Synusoid> I am going nuts. How do I play rtsp streams (real audio) with Amarok (xine engine)? --> A problem occurred: cook.so - I can't play BBC radios there
[23:34] <FreeFull> zetheroo: yes
[23:34] <gulp> should you tell me where download ?
[23:34] <Enselic> Bsims: and how do you know that is correct?
[23:34] <fryguy> gulp: www.ubuntu.com
[23:34] <zetheroo> ﻿FreeFull: how?
[23:35] <Schuenemann> fryguy, can't you give me a hand here?
[23:35] <sachael> "man mplayer" is OMG!
[23:35] <Bsims> Enselic: I beleve ubuntu defaults to unicode by default, but I'll check /etc/sshd
[23:35] <fryguy> Schuenemann: why me? i don't know anything
[23:35] <FreeFull> zetheroo: Let me find the tutorial for you
[23:35] <karl_> Does anyone here run ubuntu on a notebook ? Want to bye a notebook - choosing a model
[23:35] <camerongroom> could someone please help me install flex on my linux it wont install
[23:35] <Schuenemann> fryguy, you were just talking about the cd
[23:35] <zetheroo> ﻿FreeFull: ok thanks
[23:35] <fryguy> Schuenemann: no
[23:35] <Schuenemann> ...
[23:35] <zetheroo> ﻿FreeFull: btw I am running Hardy ... not Intrepid
[23:35] <OxDeadC0de> karl_ first get the specs you're looking for in your price range.. grab an ubuntu live cd, head to the store, try it
[23:36] <FreeFull> zetheroo: What graphics card have you got?
[23:36] <gulp> only one cd-rom, bat because mandriva have 3 cd-rom for installations?
[23:36] <zetheroo> ﻿FreeFull: oh just Intel ...
[23:36] <Schuenemann> I need to recreate /dev/cdrom
[23:36] <FreeFull> zetheroo: Same here. High five
[23:36] <karl_> tell OxDeadC0de They will not let me go from one computer to another with a live cd
[23:37] <zetheroo> ﻿FreeFull: cool
[23:37] <zetheroo> ﻿FreeFull: I have been trying to do this for years in Linux ... :)
[23:37] <Bsims> karl_: try googling name model and ubuntu
[23:37] <gulp> ubuntu witch app for internet have? for irc  whitch for axample
[23:37] <Schuenemann> fde, /dev/cdrom was removed automatically when I rebooted
[23:37] <karl_> Tell Bsims - Look like no one is running ubuntu on centrnio
[23:38] <fryguy> gulp: there are a few dozen packages available for doing irc available
[23:38] <Psyrix> I just installed KDE for Ubuntu 8.10, and i log in, and the text is so small....i can't tell what i am doing, can anyone help me?
[23:38] <OxDeadC0de> karl_ then they suck, then find a couple with the specs/price you like.. search for their main components, video adapter (I always get nvidia..), audio adapter, motherboard, (You can find this from all the display notebooks) on google.com/linux
[23:38] <tiyowan> karl_: Check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - very helpful.
[23:38] <FreeFull> Schuenemann: Are you sure your drive is connected properly to the computer?
[23:38] <anon> Anyone in chan with the technical expertise to debug or trace bugs in xorg?
[23:38] <will00> is there an easy howto for setting up a vpn server?
[23:38] <FreeFull> anon: Try #xorg
[23:38] <Schuenemann> FreeFull, yes. It all started when I did dd of=/dev/cdrom. I overwrote it
[23:39] <Bsims> karl_: I find that hard to beleve... is it a dell an hp what?
[23:39] <fryguy> will00: on openvpns website there is plenty of documentation
[23:39] <gulp> ... but ubuntu why this distro what it have?
[23:39] <camerongroom>  Would someone help me with installing FLEX because it says error when I try and open the installation.
[23:39] <will00> thanks fryguy
[23:39] <anon> FreeFull, Xorg devs won't do anything, they point the finger a nvidia
[23:39] <camerongroom> it is a .bin file
[23:39] <Bsims> how can you tell what charset ssh is using?
[23:39] <Enselic> gulp: if you don't care then use XChat
[23:39] <fryguy> gulp: www.ubuntu.com highlights all of the features of ubuntu
[23:39] <anon> automatically, without even trying
[23:39] <FreeFull> Schuenemann: /dev/cdrom should be a symlink to the right device, and it shouldn't be able to get overwritten
[23:39] <Bsims> Schuenemann: try rebooting it should recreate it if not man mkdev
[23:40] <zetheroo> ﻿FreeFull: any luck with that tutorial?
[23:40] <FreeFull> zetheroo: Wait for a second, ok?
[23:40] <Schuenemann> FreeFull, it was. It became an ISO
[23:40] <zetheroo> ﻿FreeFull: sure thing
[23:40] <Bsims> Schuenemann: you want to man ls
[23:40] <Schuenemann> Bsims, I don't have this mkdev
[23:40] <gulp> but is complicate install  every pacages? it will problem with library?
[23:41] <fryguy> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a Intel Core2 Machine, P35 motherboard, nvidia card that works with nvidia binary drivers (6800GT).  All 4 current live cds (8.04, 8.10, 32-bit and 64-bit) freeze as soon as I get to the desktop, so I was forced to install using the alternative installer.  Now the installed system exemplifies the same problems as the LiveCDs.  I've done all of the obvious things (and lots of non-obvious), and can not resolve the issue.  Anybod
[23:41] <Bsims> basicaly sudo ln -s /dev/cdrom /dev/sdwhatever
[23:41] <fryguy> gulp: no
[23:41] <gulp> are you sure?
[23:41] <Schuenemann> Bsims, I did this and the cdrom did not come back. Plus, after I rebooted it was deleted
[23:41] <fryguy> gulp: yes
[23:41] <gulp> mandriv search alwayes that..
[23:41] <infinity1> boo!
[23:42] <fryguy> gulp: so then use that
[23:42] <Bsims> Hrm does it show a /dev/entry for the physical drive?
[23:42] <kosiorro> chat.freenode.net:6667
[23:42] <Schuenemann> Bsims, like what?
[23:42] <gulp> .... i told you again, my computer have 900 amd and 128 ram inside.... is very good for my PC?
[23:42] <kosiorro> #kateos-pl
[23:43] <fryguy> gulp: yes
[23:43] <Schuenemann> Bsims, there is only /dev/scd0 now, no /dev/cdrom anymore
[23:43] <OxDeadC0de> karl_ also another good resource http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[23:43] <Schuenemann> Bsims, or /dev/sr0
[23:43] <Bsims> Schuenemann: Ok this is easy to fix...
[23:43] <gulp> ok...you have convinced me..
[23:43] <Bsims> Schuenemann: do you have one cd drive or two?
[23:43] <Schuenemann> Bsims, one
[23:44] <karl_> tell OxDeadC0de None of the resources gives a search on the hardware
[23:44] <karl_> tell OxDeadC0de Looked through both - did not find a model on centrino
[23:44] <Bsims> Schuenemann: sudo ln -s /dev/sr0 /dev/cdrom
[23:44] <OxDeadC0de> karl_ nope the hardware itself is usually somewhere in one of those pages on a different model
[23:44] <OxDeadC0de> karl_ that's where google comes in hand
[23:44] <Schuenemann> Bsims, okay, but I did this before...
[23:45] <Schuenemann> Bsims, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 2008-12-19 20:44 /dev/cdrom -> /dev/sr0
[23:45] <Schuenemann> Bsims, shouldn't it be ln -s /dev/scd0 /dev/cdrom btw?
[23:45] <karl_> tell OxDeadC0de I have been googling for some time - can you solve this :)
[23:45] <Bsims> Schuenemann: the burner part shows up as sr0
[23:45] <Schuenemann> hmm ok
[23:45] <Bsims> either will work
[23:45] <gulp> can i use only gnome? can i use kde?
[23:45] <OxDeadC0de> karl_ what piece of hardware is in question?
[23:46] <puppy> hello?
[23:46] <Schuenemann> so, can I try to record anything now?
[23:46] <fryguy> gulp: you can use whatever desktop environment you want
[23:46] <gulp> reply me please
[23:46] <gulp> i understood
[23:46] <OxDeadC0de> karl_ the intel centrino processor lines are fully supported
[23:46] <Bsims> Yup but Schuenemann, I'd recomend cdrecord or something vs dd <g>
[23:46] <puppy> Can somone help me out?
[23:46] <Schuenemann> Bsims, ... :-/
[23:46] <fryguy> !ask | puppy
[23:46] <karl_> tell OxDeadC0de CPU - but looks like no one is using this with linux
[23:47] <voidmage> I got a new graphics card today, hooked it up with a dvi-hdmi cable. The brightness and color of the picture is off and for some reason my monitor is playing noise on its speakers. The only fix I've gotten to work is hook up to DVI port 2, restart X, hook up to DVI port 1, restart X, fixes it until it goes into powersave mode, then static comes back. Anyone else familiar with this/know a better fix?
[23:47] <gulp> System Requirements
[23:47] <gulp> Ubuntu is available for PC, 64-Bit PC and Intel based Mac architectures. At least 256 MB of RAM is required to run the alternate install CD (384MB of RAM is required to use the live CD based installer). Install requires at least 4 GB of disk space.
[23:47] <gulp> o.O
[23:47] <Schuenemann> Bsims, it did not work again. let me paste the error
[23:47] <leewang> ummm not to be a yea  but have to a mac is a pc
[23:47] <gulp> you joke me?
[23:47] <Bsims> Schuenemann: sure send it to my PM
[23:47] <mon^rch> can somebody please help out in making a menu item for Quake II... working dir is /usr/local/games/quake2/quake2.exe (it runs fine if I double click quake2.exe while I'm in the folder, but when I try to make a menu item, it gives me an error)
[23:48] <Schuenemann> Bsims, there it is: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/88852/
[23:48] <camerongroom> Would someone please help me with installing flex in ubunutu
[23:48] <camerongroom> ubuntu*
[23:48] <grendal_prime> i got this opepnvpn setup and it works but my dns gets droped on the client side and i cant browser the internet anymore.  the connection is up and working...but, no dns..im using an ubuntu system for this and the openvpn network manager plugin.
[23:48] <grendal_prime> whats flex?
[23:48] <fryguy> camerongroom: you download it, put it in /opt, add it to your path, and done
[23:49] <Bsims> Schuenemann: you are burning from a floppy to cd?
[23:49] <camerongroom> how do I put it in my /opt
[23:49] <innerself> adobe flex?
[23:49] <Schuenemann> nope, from an ISO
[23:49] <camerongroom> I'm new to linux
[23:49] <fryguy> camerongroom: you decompress the tarball that you download
[23:49] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hi guys, im trying to access my SD card through my laptops SD reader and everytime I pop it in, nothing happens
[23:49] <ohletmeinnowgodd> what should i do?
[23:49] <almark> I can't get line in to work, in Ubuntu Studio, I have a Sound Blaster Audigy SE, the Wav sound works but can't get line in, to work, what Am I doing wrong?
[23:49] <emil> mon^rch: What is the error message?
[23:49] <Necrosan_> How do I burn a sparseimage in ubuntu?
[23:49] <Bsims> wierd /dev/fd is a floppy
[23:49] <Necrosan_> Or convert it to an ISO?
[23:49] <adrenaline> I am vncing from an ubuntu box to a redhat box using tightvnc viewer I have a fast cable connection but it is very slow any ideas for performance trickes?
[23:50] <Bsims> Schuenemann: try eject /dev/cdrom see if it opens the drive
[23:50] <adrenaline> oh and I am vncing from my work to my home
[23:50] <fryguy> adrenaline: turn on compression
[23:50] <Schuenemann> Bsims, it did
[23:50] <adrenaline> fryguy,  can you tell me where I do that in ubuntu?
[23:50] <fryguy> adrenaline: no idea
[23:50] <Schuenemann> Bsims, it's mounting without problems too
[23:51] <fryguy> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a Intel Core2 Machine, P35 motherboard, nvidia card that works with nvidia binary drivers (6800GT).  All 4 current live cds (8.04, 8.10, 32-bit and 64-bit) freeze as soon as I get to the desktop, so I was forced to install using the alternative installer.  Now the installed system exemplifies the same problems as the LiveCDs.  I've done all of the obvious things (and lots of non-obvious), and can not resolve the issue.  Anybod
[23:51] <Bsims> Schuenemann: Hrm paste me the cdrecord command you are using
[23:51] <gulp> ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[23:51] <gulp> it is good?
[23:51] <Dephisto> hi, does someone have experiences with 3D acceleration and opengl, setting xorg.conf?
[23:51] <Schuenemann> Bsims, actually I tried with k3b. That was the log error
[23:51] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hi guys, im trying to access my SD card through my laptops SD reader and everytime I pop it in, nothing happens, what should i do?
[23:51] <OxDeadC0de> karl_ linux supports more cpu's than windows, keep that in mind
[23:51] <almark> Does anyone here use Ubuntu Studio?
[23:51] <mon^rch> emil: error says... Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx
[23:51] <voidmage> I got a new graphics card today, hooked it up with a dvi-hdmi cable. The brightness and color of the picture is off and for some reason my monitor is playing noise on its speakers. The only fix I've gotten to work is hook up to DVI port 2, restart X, hook up to DVI port 1, restart X, fixes it until it goes into powersave mode, then static comes back. Anyone else familiar with this/know a better fix?
[23:51] <fryguy> gulp: probably. you migth want to look at xubuntu install disc instead for some lower end machines
[23:51] <gulp> then, can i update other program'
[23:51] <clearzen> fryguy: do you have error logs to look at? can you ssh in from another machine?
[23:52] <grendal_prime> adobe flex...sounds like a bandwidth mactruck....
[23:52] <fryguy> gulp: yes
[23:52] <fryguy> clearzen: ssh fine, no error logs
[23:52] <Schuenemann> Bsims, oh... I tried a different DVD and it worked. But the other is brand new
[23:52] <fryguy> clearzen: Xorg.log is error free, as is dmesg
[23:52] <camerongroom> grendal_crime: would you help me with installing flex onto my ubuntu machine. It doesn't open right and I have no clue what to do.
[23:52] <clearzen> fryguy: hmmm, does it freeze when you use the nv driver instead?
[23:52] <Bsims> Schuenemann: could just be a bad disk and usually you can't reuse a dvd
[23:52] <fryguy> clearzen: when i said "I tried all of the obvious things" I meant it
[23:52] <ohletmeinnowgodd> guys?
[23:52] <Dephisto> halooo
[23:52] <fryguy> clearzen: yes, i've tried 5 drivers
[23:53] <fryguy> clearzen: all exhibit the same behavior
[23:53] <clearzen> fryguy: give me a sec to dig around.
[23:53] <adrenaline> fryguy what about your powersupply or source?
[23:53] <Schuenemann> Bsims, it's DVD+RW. So odd... by the marks it seems it recorded only a bit of data
[23:53] <gulp> xubuntu i have reboot it like live,is good but 15 minuts for to be operative! :9
[23:53] <Octoroks> hello, where are applications in ubuntu stored? (firefox, calculator etc...)
[23:53] <fryguy> adrenaline: there is no hardware issue, things work fine in several other operating systems, and the machine has been running such other operating systems for a long time
[23:53] <Bsims> Schuenemann: try telling k3b to blank the dvdrw first then retry
[23:53] <Psyrix> I just installed KDE for Ubuntu 8.10, and i log in, and the text is so small....i can't tell what i am doing, can anyone help me?
[23:54] <Bsims> Schuenemann: it looks like it eather can't read from the source or can't write to it
[23:54] <adrenaline> fryguy, I have had bios issue with slackware and not with other machines before
[23:54] <Bsims> Psyrix: change font sizes in the options?
[23:54] <emil> mon^rch: are you using a different wine prefix?
[23:54] <rww> Psyrix: you might get more help over in #kubuntu. They do KDE things better than most of us (but feel free to ask here too :D)
[23:54] <adrenaline> I mean other distroes
[23:54] <fryguy> adrenaline: i'm on the machine right now, on a different linux, and the graphics card is working fine
[23:54] <Schuenemann> Bsims, I don't think I could've permanently b0rked the disc, could I?
[23:54] <Ceddie> help pls.....
[23:54] <Psyrix> rww: k i'll give it a try
[23:55] <adrenaline> But you are saying you have to install not in X right?
[23:55] <Ceddie> anyone pls help
[23:55] <clearzen> fryguy: is it a custom kernel? Have you tried rolling back to an earlier version of the kernel?
[23:55] <adrenaline> There is something conflicting
[23:55] <fryguy> adrenaline: for ubuntu yes, everything else works
[23:55] <Bsims> Schuenemann: very unlikely
[23:55] <ohletmeinnowgodd> i need some help with mounting my SD card, can someone help me?
[23:55] <fryguy> clearzen: it's a fresh install, nothing earlier to rollback to, and the same kernel is working in other linuxes
[23:55] <adrenaline> Seems liek there is an issue with ubuntu and your card
[23:55] <Octoroks> where are applications in ubuntu stored?
[23:55] <fryguy> clearzen: i've gone as far as installing linuxfromscratch and using the same ubuntu patched kernel in that system, and it works fine
[23:55] <Bsims> Schuenemann: tell k3b to clear the dvdrw
[23:55] <adrenaline> Have you tried another older kernel ubuntu install?
[23:55] <Bsims> ohletmeinnowgodd: whats it doing?
[23:55] <Ceddie> PLS help me!!
[23:56] <mon^rch> I'm making a menu item via alacarte, and pointing it to /usr/local/games/quake2/quake2.exe
[23:56] <fryguy> Octoroks: typically in /usr
[23:56] <clearzen> fryguy: wow
[23:56] <Schuenemann> Bsims, ok
[23:56] <ohletmeinnowgodd> Bsims: nothing
[23:56] <OxDeadC0de> fryguy: personally.. i use the nvidia beta driver from their website, keeps my laptop gpu cooler..
[23:56] <fryguy> clearzen: let me repeat myself, i've tried all of the obvious things, and lots of nonobvious things.  I'm looking for original ideas
[23:56] <clearzen> fryguy: have you looked at the kernel error logs?
[23:56] <mon^rch> emil: I'm making a menu item via alacarte, and pointing it to /usr/local/games/quake2/quake2.exe
[23:56] <Bsims> ohletmeinnowgodd: it should just show up...
[23:56] <Schuenemann> Bsims, it says there's no need to format more than once
[23:56] <fryguy> OxDeadC0de: that driver exhibits the same behavior as the others
[23:56] <ohletmeinnowgodd> Bsims: im trying to access my SD card through my laptops SD reader and everytime I pop it in, nothing happens
[23:56] <fryguy> clearzen: no errors
[23:56] <clearzen> fryguy: ok then. I just like to cover the bases to make sure
[23:56] <Ceddie> My Logitech Webcam does not work with ekiga???
[23:56] <Ceddie> My Logitech Webcam does not work with ekiga???
[23:56] <OxDeadC0de> fryguy then it's probably a kernel issue
[23:56] <Ceddie> My Logitech Webcam does not work with ekiga???
[23:56] <Bsims> Schuenemann: Heh tell it to do it anyway
[23:56] <FloodBot1> Ceddie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:56] <fryguy> OxDeadC0de: as i just said it's not
[23:57] <fryguy> OxDeadC0de: i've installed the exact same kernel in a linuxfromscratch environment and it works fine
[23:57] <Bsims> ohletmeinnowgodd: could be that the card reader is not supported, laptops contain parts from Mars
[23:57] <fryguy> OxDeadC0de: the same ubuntu patches and everything
[23:57] <Ceddie> pls
[23:57] <Ceddie> any help here
[23:57] <emil> mon^rch: have you written wine in front of it? "wine /usr/local/games/quake2/quake2.exe"
[23:57] <Schuenemann> Bsims, yeah, I told it to force it and it says it isn't recommended and that I can mess the disc... but I did anyway
[23:57] <Ward1983> to uninstall compiled software sudo make uninstall is enough right?
[23:57] <OxDeadC0de> fryguy exact same kernel with the same build options and command line options? damn
[23:57] <fryguy> OxDeadC0de: yes
[23:57] <ohletmeinnowgodd> Bsims: i remember it using way back when i tried hardy
[23:57] <clearzen> fryguy: when you used linux from scratch did you use the same version of X that is running on the ubuntu machine?
[23:57] <fryguy> clearzen: yes
[23:57] <ohletmeinnowgodd> Bsims: *working
[23:58] <R0b0t1> Does anyone here use Anjuta? Well, I've come to ask how I can enable the scintilla editor in 8.10, as only the GtkView seems available.
[23:58] <Bsims> dunno ohletmeinnowgodd
[23:58] <mon^rch> emil:  yes I tried that... will try again just to humor myself
[23:58] <Bsims> Schuenemann: beats me I don't use dvdrw...
[23:58] <clearzen> fryguy: can't help you then. Good luck
[23:58] <Ceddie> this server seems helpless to me
[23:58] <fryguy> clearzen: other noteworthy systems that don't exhibit an issue: gentoo, debian, archlinux, centos, and freebsd
[23:58] <leewang> alright time to kill this system lol cya guy/ladies later thanks for helpage
[23:58] <petafile> I'm installing on a machine with vista currently installed (plan on dual booting).  I have an intel (software, I think since it requires a driver, I think its a pretty standard thing) raid 1 setup(mirroring) and I want to do manual partition, but the partitioner treats it as 2 separate drives, how do I set it up without destroying my raid?
[23:58] <OxDeadC0de> fryguy was compositing enabled? could you get it to run anything like just xorg/xterm 2d?
[23:58] <clearzen> fryguy: I'll try to think of something. But that is truly odd
[23:58] <emil> mon^rch: and for example 'env WINEPREFIX="/home/.../.wine" wine /usr/local/games/quake2/quake2.exe'
[23:58] <steve__> Stoopid n()()b ubuntu question:  virgin install on a fit-PC, I
[23:58] <Ceddie> everyone is ignoring me
[23:59] <Schuenemann> Bsims, I see. Well, it's still at 0%. Something is prolly wrong
[23:59] <fryguy> OxDeadC0de: nothing runs. I'm running a custom .xsession that spawns an xterm and nothing else
[23:59] <steve__> I'm logged in on the console, but do not get prompted for any administrative tasks... everything remains grayed out...
[23:59] <Bsims> Ceddie: not all webcams work with Linux
[23:59] <CrOOgie> hi there
[23:59] <Ceddie> thanks for reply
[23:59] <Bsims> Schuenemann: close it and try it from the command line
[23:59] <Schuenemann> Bsims, no, it finished lol
[23:59] <OxDeadC0de> fryguy can you switch back to vt while xorg is frozen or ssh in to get dmesg, and xorg.log shows nothing?
[23:59] <Ceddie> how to work with ubuntu
[23:59] <fryguy> OxDeadC0de: also noteworthy, compositing etc work fine in the other environmnents I listed
[23:59] <mon^rch> emil: could you maybe write the full syntax as it should be in alacarte?
[23:59] <fryguy> OxDeadC0de: Xorg.log shows no errors