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j_bsdxinuman so quite here today00:36
Shaba1It normally is.00:37
Shaba1everytime that I have been here.00:37
CorruptDropbearhi00:55
CorruptDropbearJust a quick question, can anyone point me to the minimum specifications of xubuntu? EG how much ram, cpu speed is needed?00:56
Odd-rationale!specs | CorruptDropbear00:58
ubottuCorruptDropbear: Hardware requirements to install, boot and comfortably use Xubuntu are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingXubuntu00:58
CorruptDropbearThank you very much!00:58
Odd-rationalenp00:58
CorruptDropbearYes, it should work on our system of 128mb!00:59
Odd-rationalewell...00:59
Odd-rationaleslowly, yeah...00:59
CorruptDropbearAs long as it works. Don't really care about speed, currently the computers don't even work.01:00
CorruptDropbearthanks01:00
ben-jackon:-D01:10
radlipathow i format second hardrive? it still has windows stuff on it but idc. i only have 3 gig to work with right now!!!01:25
R1cochetwell u can leave as ntfs01:37
R1cochet!ntfs01:37
ubottuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE01:37
R1cochetor u can get gparted01:38
R1cochet!gparted01:38
ubottugparted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php01:38
karmaleonKazehakase has crashed sometimes with me :-(02:26
karmaleonI guess I'll need to try another lightweight browser.02:26
karmaleonAnyone having the same problem?02:27
ballAnyone here familiar with Xubuntu's Xfce configuration?02:50
charlie-tcadepends on the question. Please ask and let´s find out!02:50
ballokay, I have a fairly clean Xubuntu box and I just connected via ssh and launched vncserver.02:51
ballI edited my .vnc/xstartup file to launch xfdesktop, which gives me a trash can, home folder and filesystem02:51
ballicon02:51
ballI was able to spawn an xterm and manually launch Xfwm402:52
ball...so now my windows are managed.02:52
ballWhat do I need to launch if I want the Xubuntu menus?02:52
ballAha!02:53
ballxfce-panel02:53
charlie-tcaDid you get the top and bottom panels... I see you found it02:53
ballbrb, editing my xstartup file and rebooting.02:53
ballcharlie-tca: anything else I need to run for this to closely match the Xubuntu console experience?03:01
charlie-tcanot that i can think of03:02
ballHmm... wonder if it's worth documenting this.03:02
R1cochetumm isnt there a xubuntu-desktop pack in the repos?03:02
R1cochetball: yes it is03:02
charlie-tcayes03:02
ballR1cochet: if there is, I doubt it does this.03:03
charlie-tcaR1cochet: yes, there is03:03
R1cochetball i was going to do the samething in a week or two03:03
charlie-tcaball: yes, it's worth putting on the help wiki03:03
R1cochetball what did u start w/?03:04
charlie-tcaThere are quite a few questions here and in the users-mailing-list about doing that03:04
ballR1cochet: Xubuntu.03:04
viddwhat is the issue?03:05
ballvidd: only issue left is that vncserver doesn't seem to work with named colours03:05
ball...so I can't do "xterm -fg white -bg black" for example03:05
ball...or "xload -hl blue"03:05
viddhrm...i wasnt aware you could specify colors in vnc =\03:06
ballvidd: you can't, but that's a deficiency of vncserver's X server implementation I think.03:06
ball....I count it a bug.03:06
viddcan you do it in any other remote desktop ?03:07
ballI don't know of another remote desktop that is an X server03:08
viddwell....can windows do it?03:08
ballWindows doesn't have an X server (by default)03:09
viddim not talking about an x server03:09
ballI am.03:09
ballbrb03:09
viddim talking about remote desktopcan window's remote desktop let you specify colors?03:10
viddif not, then it is a "feature request" and not a bug03:10
ball"specify colors" is meaningless (or doesn't mean the same thing) outside an X environment, so it's a null question.03:12
viddthen its a feature request, not a bug03:12
* ball shrugs03:12
ballI count it a bug03:12
ballNot a Xubuntu bug mind you,03:12
ball...a vnc4server bug03:12
ballhttp://potchery.blogspot.com/  <- documented.04:06
kkkyleis this a good distro06:14
kkkyleis this a good distro06:18
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R1cochet!rom08:27
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about rom08:27
R1cochet!emulator08:27
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about emulator08:27
R1cochetis there a nes emulator for xubuntu?08:28
zoredache_sure08:28
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zoredacheof course it depends on what platform you are asking about08:28
zoredache!info nestra08:29
ubottunestra (source: nestra): Nintendo Entertainment System emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.66-10 (intrepid), package size 57 kB, installed size 3788 kB (Only available for i386)08:29
R1cochetcool but is there one for 64bit?08:31
R1cochetand where can i get roms for it?08:31
zoredacheI suspect you might want to google that one.  Unless you OWN the game already then downloading the ROM would be copyright infringment...08:33
R1cochetis there one for 64bit?08:34
zoredacheI don't know...08:35
zoredacheR1cochet: do you know you can use 'apt-cache search {keyword}' in a terminal to search for applications?08:38
zoredacheyou can also look at packages.ubuntu.com08:38
R1cocheti did not thank you08:39
FlyOnTheWallI was hoping for some guidance as to configuring the LTSP on Xubuntu, it seems the normal configuration files do not apply, does anybody know something about this?13:30
estreshi all17:06
estreswhat is the difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu?17:06
Piciestres: Xubuntu comes with xfce as its desktop environment, Ubuntu comes with Gnome.17:17
Pici!flavors17:17
ubottu!GTK and !Qt are !GUI toolkits (i.e. software libraries that draw buttons, textboxes, etc). !GNOME, !KDE, !Xfce and friends are "!desktop environments", which build on top of such libraries to provide a "consistent" desktop experience. !Kubuntu and !Xubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with KDE and Xfce (respectively) installed as default, instead of GNOME. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu17:17
estresPici: I see, thank you17:18
estresso far as I read Gnome is better that Xfce, just what I read in internet17:19
knomeestres, it depends a lot on what you need17:21
knomeand what you want17:21
estresknome: Yes I know, I am very rookie in this matter so may be I am shooting some dumb thougts for some of you17:24
viddwhat is the default pdf viewer in xubuntu?17:25
david-kit-friedmHello17:58
Sinister`( System: Linux 2.6.27-9-generic on Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz )( Bogomips: 12553.11 )( Memory: total: 3260.7 MB used: 544.5 MB [||||||||||] )( Disks: total: 742.7 GB used: 40.9 GB [||||||||||] )( Uptime: 3h 3min 30s )( Load avg: 0.00 0.00 0.00 )( Vpenis: 238.4 cm )( eth0: Rx: 2.2 MB [25 B/s] Tx: 657.6 kB [32 B/s] )( CPU Temp: 31.0°C )19:02
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnanyone alive here??19:05
lecheno, were all dead...19:05
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnstandard for IRC then19:06
lecheyou cant be successful on irc if youre alive19:06
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnyou any good at sorting out problems with xubuntu19:06
Sinister`( System: Linux 2.6.27-9-generic on Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz )( Bogomips: 12553.11 )( Memory: total: 3260.7 MB used: 544.7 MB [||||||||||] )( Disks: total: 742.7 GB used: 40.9 GB [||||||||||] )( Uptime: 3h 7min 54s )( Load avg: 0.00 0.01 0.00 )( Vpenis: 238.4 cm )( eth0: Rx: 2.2 MB [855 B/s] Tx: 672.9 kB [93 B/s] )( CPU Temp: 30.0°C )19:07
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnI've installed xubuntu on an older desktop (about 4YO) but its rather unstable19:08
karn`im tryin to install xubuntu ibex and it keeps freezing during install20:38
karn`the moniter will flash, then go blank, and tahts that...20:39
karn`i did a mem test..i checked the disk...i tried the oem install..i did a low graphics install20:42
karn`:|20:45
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAncan you boot from USB, I got mine installed that way, though there are other problems I'm suffering with20:50
cody-somerville: (20:51
karn`you mean put it on a jump drive?20:51
karn`extract the iso to one?20:51
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnyup20:51
karn`it seems like it goes to test the vidoe card driver and thats when it locks up or doesnt come back on...20:52
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnI burned a dvd, and none of the PCs would boot from it20:52
cody-somervillekarn`, whats your video driver?20:52
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnbut the USB thing worked20:52
karn`but if i hit the power button it will come back on and unload then shutdown20:52
karn`i dont know20:52
cody-somervillePsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn, you probably just needed to modify your boot order in your bios settings20:52
cody-somervillekarn`, ooo20:52
cody-somervillekarn`, sounds like I know what the problem might be20:52
karn`defalt for gateway solo 255020:52
cody-somervillekarn`, when it goes to the black screen20:52
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnI did, was set to CD drive, and wouldn't boot from that20:53
cody-somervilletry pushing alt+ctrl+f120:53
karn`ok20:53
cody-somervillePsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn, how were you burning the ISOs?20:53
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnhowever using the USB in a different computer I was able to install it on the hard drive20:53
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnnero 820:53
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAndata dvd20:53
cody-somervillePsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn, no no20:53
cody-somervillePsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn, we don't provide dvd images20:53
cody-somervillePsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn, and a data dvd will just burn the iso file20:54
cody-somervillePsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn, you need to burn it as an image20:54
karn`i only got 400mhz and im not sure on the ram, the mem test says: L1 cache 32m, L2 cache 128m, and Mem: 96M20:54
centr0where can i find my startup programs?20:56
karn`too bad i couldnt get my wireless to work in breezy20:56
karn`maybe in the /usr/ folder?21:00
karn`it says Starting Ubiquity...... Flashes, then nothing21:01
cody-somervillekarn`, oh21:02
cody-somervillekarn`, you need 192mb of ram21:02
karn`hmm21:02
karn`ctrl alt f1 doesnt do anthuing21:02
karn`well21:02
karn`it turns the blank moniter off21:03
karn`and how much do i have?21:03
cody-somervillekarn`, Looks like 96mb21:03
karn`:|21:04
cody-somervillekarn`, what do you mean it turns the blank monitor "off"?21:04
cody-somerville(try ctrl+alt+f2)21:04
karn`well it starts loading stuff21:04
karn`saying [OK]21:04
cody-somervillekarn`, are you at a login prompt?21:04
cody-somerville(pushing the buttons just changes your vt)21:04
cody-somerville(vt is virtual terminal)21:04
karn`and then the last thing is that ubiquity21:04
karn`no21:04
karn`the screen goes blank after that21:05
cody-somervillekarn`, take a picture21:05
karn`of what?21:05
karn`before it goes blank?21:05
karn`theres some stuff that it says it cant find, some apci drivers or something21:06
karn`wow thats weird21:06
karn`now its doing something else21:07
karn`it shut down and when i turned it back it it started back at that * starting ubiquity thing21:07
karn`but the font is really big21:07
karn`it seems to went past that to *starting peridioc command scheduler21:08
karn`think hardy would go any better?21:09
karn`hmm21:10
karn`its all fscked up now21:15
karn`heh21:16
karn`oh well ill go back to trying to my wireless to work in breezy21:17
karn`var/lib/acpi-support/manufacture;product-name,system-version, and bios-version cannot be found? could that be the problem?21:25
Octorokshello21:31
Octorokshow would i install xubuntu with the alternative iso?21:32
cody-somervilleYou pop 'er in and install! :)21:32
Octorokscody-somerville, i have windowsXP21:32
cody-somervilleYou need to burn it to a cd21:32
Octoroksi did21:33
cody-somervilleand then boot from the cd21:33
Octorokswell21:33
Octoroksit dosn't boot up21:33
Octoroksnor do i see how it can21:34
R1cochetset ur bios options to boot from cd first21:36
R1cochetif u want a dual boot system u will need to partition a drive for linux then install on that drive21:37
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAncompletely noob quextion21:41
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnhow do I get the terminal up to put in sudo etc etc21:41
karn`it should be under applications i think21:42
R1cochetyep applications>accessories21:43
karn`hmm21:43
karn`so can i just extract the iso to a jump drive and boot from that?21:43
* PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn waits for the computer to reboot for the 1000th time21:43
karn`do you think i would still have the same problem?21:43
karn`or what about installing hardy?21:44
OctoroksR1cochet, can i install Xubuntu inside windows?21:49
Octoroksi ahve no idea how to edit my bios21:51
Octorokshave*21:51
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PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnthis is infuriating22:13
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAni've moved the hard disk over to the other PC22:13
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnand now xubuntu is running perfectly......22:13
* PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn bbs, swapping hard disks again!!!22:42
RaviI have a 512MB 800MHz. machine and installed Xubuntu on it..I love it..but when I run firefox, it slows everything down..any tweaks that you can suggest?  Thanks.22:51
RaviI tried SeaMonkey etc. same result...Dillo is too light weight for me.22:52
TheSheepRavi: jus tall the general tweaks for firefox22:52
TheSheepjust all*22:52
RaviTheSheep: hmmm..for example ... ?22:53
charlie-tcaWhy not try Epiphany... Lighter than firefox, accepts plugins and addons if you want them.22:53
TheSheepRavi: you candisable java and javascript, limit the amount of memory and cache, etc.22:53
TheSheepRavi: google should help you22:54
Ravicharlie: Didn't try Epiphany..will give it a chance..Sea Monkey is what I tried.22:54
RaviTheSheep:  Ah, ok...I was wondering if there is anything specific that I could do at Xubuntu level to make it faster...at times I can see memory maxing out in "top"...very frustrating.22:54
TheSheepRavi: disable unneeded services22:55
TheSheeplike cups if you don't own a printer22:55
TheSheepRavi: but I suppose it won't help much22:55
TheSheepmaking sure you don't open too many tabs in ff helps too22:56
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnquestion for you22:56
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnwhy would unbuntu run fine on 1 system22:56
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnbut not the other22:56
Ravicharlie : between SeaMonkey and Epiphany, would you say Epiphany is faster?22:56
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnespecially when both systems will run XP22:57
RaviTheSheep: Ok, thanks for your help.22:57
DrDerekI seem to be in a quandary, I'm using the Xubuntu 7.10 disc to be used as a livedisc, and I'm trying to open up terminal so I can run fsck, but everytime I do so, the GUI crashes on me23:13
DrDerekand even making a new launcher of Terminal, it crashes the GUI and then makes me relog23:14
cody-somervilleDrDerek, can you file a bug report?23:14
Odd-rationaleDrDerek: hmm... try a tty? ctrl+alt+f2 ?23:15
DrDerekI'll try a tty23:15
cody-somervilleDrDerek, Whats the output of dmesg?23:15
DrDerekhmm, not sure how I would get it to be able to show you23:16
DrDerekI just now I have some kinda corrupt hd23:17
DrDerekbut I think I got it now, using TTY23:18
DrDerekrunning fsck23:18
Odd-rationaleDrDerek: is your drive formatted ext2? or ext3?23:19
DrDerekIt's ext323:19
Odd-rationaleok.23:19
DrDerekIt runs Ubuntu, but something got screwy during an update23:20
RaviDoes Xubuntu run faster if installed on a separate hard drive as opposed to on a partition disk sharing Windoze?  Or doesn't it matter?23:20
DrDerekand it wouldn't even let me use the livedisc of Ubuntu, so trying Xubuntu23:20
DrDerekRavi,  generally it shouldn't matter, just depends on your ram, I guess23:20
DrDerekand the RPM of your hardrive23:20
RaviDr: Ok, Thanks.23:21
DrDerekI duel boot Windows and Ubuntu on my laptop on a single Hard Drive.23:21
DrDerekand I have 2GB of RAM and each OS works fine independently23:21
Raviyes, I have the same set up on my laptop....2GB RMAN..and everything works fine...23:22
RaviOn my PC though..I have 512MB RAM and 800MHz...over there things are slow..so I was wondering.23:22
RaviLaptop has Ubuntu...PC has Xubuntu...23:23
DrDerekyeah, an 800Mhz processor while duel booting high-end OS' could run slow23:23
DrDerekbut then again, I run XP and an older version of Ubuntu on a 700Mhz23:23
Ravitried all kinds of distros on the PC...DSL etc. are too small...ubuntu etc. don't even show up..settled with Xubuntu...23:23
DrDerekwith 512MB23:23
DrDerekWindows XP runs easier than Ubuntu though.23:23
Ravibut I want to get away from Windoze :-)23:24
Ravi(don't we all?)23:24
DrDerekmeh, Windows isn't THAT bad of an OS if you can use it properly23:24
DrDerekOr get it for free because of student licensing . :)23:24
Raviyeah..it's not that bad if you want to continously worry about spyware and viruses :-)23:25
RaviInternet Explorer sucks!  (yeah I know..there's firefox for windoze)23:25
DrDerekI will honestly say though, I have not got a virus / spyware/ or adware in 3 years on any of my windows boxes23:25
Raviit's not a matter of If..but when...just wait and see :-)23:26
DrDerekI dunno, I'm pretty good with my system management23:26
Ravianyway..Xubuntu is great...if only I can somehow tweak Firefox to run faster.23:26
Ravithis is Xubuntu 8.0.4 btw.23:27
DrDerekYou could use google chrome23:27
RaviI can't add any more memory...It was originally a 128MB pc...23:27
Ravibumped upto 512MB..the max, it can take.23:27
Ravichrome for Linux??23:27
RaviIt's still beta isn't it?23:28
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnsince adding the updates xubuntu seems to be running more stable23:30
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnits hanging less anyway23:30
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnbut still not really usuable23:31
DrDerekRavi - you could use wine for chrome23:32
Raviah ok23:33
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnany idea why it wont install flash23:34
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnif I can get it reasonably stable and able to access the web, including youtube I'll be happy23:34
PsynoKhi0heya, could someone please send their /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf to the pastebin (hardy or intrepid), thanks23:48
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAncant install flash, close down updates aptitute etc...23:52
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnwhat processes do I end23:52
Odd-rationale!aptfix23:52
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »23:52
PsynoKhi0where did you get your flash package from?23:53
PsynoKhi0repo? .deb from adobe? .tar.gz from adobe?23:54
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn.deb from adobe23:54
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnit asks for password23:55
PsynoKhi0got GDebo running?23:55
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnthen says to close any other installers23:55
PsynoKhi0Gdebi*23:55
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnwill check in a second23:55
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnit just crashed again23:55
PsynoKhi0synaptic, gdebi, update manager, source list...23:56
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnthing that puzzles me, xubuntu is being a hell of a lot more unstable than XP23:58
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAni tried the computer out with a HD that had XP installed on, and though it was a bit slow, it did run23:58
PsynoKhi0how is it more unstable?23:59
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnkeeps rebooting/crashing23:59
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnwhats bizare23:59

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