=== R1coch3t is now known as R1cochet [00:36] man so quite here today [00:37] It normally is. [00:37] everytime that I have been here. [00:55] hi [00:56] Just a quick question, can anyone point me to the minimum specifications of xubuntu? EG how much ram, cpu speed is needed? [00:58] !specs | CorruptDropbear [00:58] CorruptDropbear: Hardware requirements to install, boot and comfortably use Xubuntu are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingXubuntu [00:58] Thank you very much! [00:58] np [00:59] Yes, it should work on our system of 128mb! [00:59] well... [00:59] slowly, yeah... [01:00] As long as it works. Don't really care about speed, currently the computers don't even work. [01:00] thanks [01:10] :-D [01:25] how i format second hardrive? it still has windows stuff on it but idc. i only have 3 gig to work with right now!!! [01:37] well u can leave as ntfs [01:37] !ntfs [01:37] To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [01:38] or u can get gparted [01:38] !gparted [01:38] gparted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php [02:26] Kazehakase has crashed sometimes with me :-( [02:26] I guess I'll need to try another lightweight browser. [02:27] Anyone having the same problem? [02:50] Anyone here familiar with Xubuntu's Xfce configuration? [02:50] depends on the question. Please ask and let´s find out! [02:51] okay, I have a fairly clean Xubuntu box and I just connected via ssh and launched vncserver. [02:51] I edited my .vnc/xstartup file to launch xfdesktop, which gives me a trash can, home folder and filesystem [02:51] icon [02:52] I was able to spawn an xterm and manually launch Xfwm4 [02:52] ...so now my windows are managed. [02:52] What do I need to launch if I want the Xubuntu menus? [02:53] Aha! [02:53] xfce-panel [02:53] Did you get the top and bottom panels... I see you found it [02:53] brb, editing my xstartup file and rebooting. [03:01] charlie-tca: anything else I need to run for this to closely match the Xubuntu console experience? [03:02] not that i can think of [03:02] Hmm... wonder if it's worth documenting this. [03:02] umm isnt there a xubuntu-desktop pack in the repos? [03:02] ball: yes it is [03:02] yes [03:03] R1cochet: if there is, I doubt it does this. [03:03] R1cochet: yes, there is [03:03] ball i was going to do the samething in a week or two [03:03] ball: yes, it's worth putting on the help wiki [03:04] ball what did u start w/? [03:04] There are quite a few questions here and in the users-mailing-list about doing that [03:04] R1cochet: Xubuntu. [03:05] what is the issue? [03:05] vidd: only issue left is that vncserver doesn't seem to work with named colours [03:05] ...so I can't do "xterm -fg white -bg black" for example [03:05] ...or "xload -hl blue" [03:06] hrm...i wasnt aware you could specify colors in vnc =\ [03:06] vidd: you can't, but that's a deficiency of vncserver's X server implementation I think. [03:06] ....I count it a bug. [03:07] can you do it in any other remote desktop ? [03:08] I don't know of another remote desktop that is an X server [03:08] well....can windows do it? [03:09] Windows doesn't have an X server (by default) [03:09] im not talking about an x server [03:09] I am. [03:09] brb [03:10] im talking about remote desktopcan window's remote desktop let you specify colors? [03:10] if not, then it is a "feature request" and not a bug [03:12] "specify colors" is meaningless (or doesn't mean the same thing) outside an X environment, so it's a null question. [03:12] then its a feature request, not a bug [03:12] * ball shrugs [03:12] I count it a bug [03:12] Not a Xubuntu bug mind you, [03:12] ...a vnc4server bug [04:06] http://potchery.blogspot.com/ <- documented. [06:14] is this a good distro [06:18] is this a good distro === Sinister` is now known as Sinister [08:27] !rom [08:27] Sorry, I don't know anything about rom [08:27] !emulator [08:27] Sorry, I don't know anything about emulator [08:28] is there a nes emulator for xubuntu? [08:28] sure === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [08:28] of course it depends on what platform you are asking about [08:29] !info nestra [08:29] nestra (source: nestra): Nintendo Entertainment System emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.66-10 (intrepid), package size 57 kB, installed size 3788 kB (Only available for i386) [08:31] cool but is there one for 64bit? [08:31] and where can i get roms for it? [08:33] I suspect you might want to google that one. Unless you OWN the game already then downloading the ROM would be copyright infringment... [08:34] is there one for 64bit? [08:35] I don't know... [08:38] R1cochet: do you know you can use 'apt-cache search {keyword}' in a terminal to search for applications? [08:38] you can also look at packages.ubuntu.com [08:39] i did not thank you [13:30] I was hoping for some guidance as to configuring the LTSP on Xubuntu, it seems the normal configuration files do not apply, does anybody know something about this? [17:06] hi all [17:06] what is the difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu? [17:17] estres: Xubuntu comes with xfce as its desktop environment, Ubuntu comes with Gnome. [17:17] !flavors [17:17] !GTK and !Qt are !GUI toolkits (i.e. software libraries that draw buttons, textboxes, etc). !GNOME, !KDE, !Xfce and friends are "!desktop environments", which build on top of such libraries to provide a "consistent" desktop experience. !Kubuntu and !Xubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with KDE and Xfce (respectively) installed as default, instead of GNOME. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu [17:18] Pici: I see, thank you [17:19] so far as I read Gnome is better that Xfce, just what I read in internet [17:21] estres, it depends a lot on what you need [17:21] and what you want [17:24] knome: Yes I know, I am very rookie in this matter so may be I am shooting some dumb thougts for some of you [17:25] what is the default pdf viewer in xubuntu? [17:58] Hello [19:02] ( System: Linux 2.6.27-9-generic on Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz )( Bogomips: 12553.11 )( Memory: total: 3260.7 MB used: 544.5 MB [||||||||||] )( Disks: total: 742.7 GB used: 40.9 GB [||||||||||] )( Uptime: 3h 3min 30s )( Load avg: 0.00 0.00 0.00 )( Vpenis: 238.4 cm )( eth0: Rx: 2.2 MB [25 B/s] Tx: 657.6 kB [32 B/s] )( CPU Temp: 31.0°C ) [19:05] anyone alive here?? [19:05] no, were all dead... [19:06] standard for IRC then [19:06] you cant be successful on irc if youre alive [19:06] you any good at sorting out problems with xubuntu [19:07] ( System: Linux 2.6.27-9-generic on Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz )( Bogomips: 12553.11 )( Memory: total: 3260.7 MB used: 544.7 MB [||||||||||] )( Disks: total: 742.7 GB used: 40.9 GB [||||||||||] )( Uptime: 3h 7min 54s )( Load avg: 0.00 0.01 0.00 )( Vpenis: 238.4 cm )( eth0: Rx: 2.2 MB [855 B/s] Tx: 672.9 kB [93 B/s] )( CPU Temp: 30.0°C ) [19:08] I've installed xubuntu on an older desktop (about 4YO) but its rather unstable [20:38] im tryin to install xubuntu ibex and it keeps freezing during install [20:39] the moniter will flash, then go blank, and tahts that... [20:42] i did a mem test..i checked the disk...i tried the oem install..i did a low graphics install [20:45] :| [20:50] can you boot from USB, I got mine installed that way, though there are other problems I'm suffering with [20:51] : ( [20:51] you mean put it on a jump drive? [20:51] extract the iso to one? [20:51] yup [20:52] it seems like it goes to test the vidoe card driver and thats when it locks up or doesnt come back on... [20:52] I burned a dvd, and none of the PCs would boot from it [20:52] karn`, whats your video driver? [20:52] but the USB thing worked [20:52] but if i hit the power button it will come back on and unload then shutdown [20:52] i dont know [20:52] PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn, you probably just needed to modify your boot order in your bios settings [20:52] karn`, ooo [20:52] karn`, sounds like I know what the problem might be [20:52] defalt for gateway solo 2550 [20:52] karn`, when it goes to the black screen [20:53] I did, was set to CD drive, and wouldn't boot from that [20:53] try pushing alt+ctrl+f1 [20:53] ok [20:53] PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn, how were you burning the ISOs? [20:53] however using the USB in a different computer I was able to install it on the hard drive [20:53] nero 8 [20:53] data dvd [20:53] PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn, no no [20:53] PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn, we don't provide dvd images [20:54] PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn, and a data dvd will just burn the iso file [20:54] PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn, you need to burn it as an image [20:54] i only got 400mhz and im not sure on the ram, the mem test says: L1 cache 32m, L2 cache 128m, and Mem: 96M [20:56] where can i find my startup programs? [20:56] too bad i couldnt get my wireless to work in breezy [21:00] maybe in the /usr/ folder? [21:01] it says Starting Ubiquity...... Flashes, then nothing [21:02] karn`, oh [21:02] karn`, you need 192mb of ram [21:02] hmm [21:02] ctrl alt f1 doesnt do anthuing [21:02] well [21:03] it turns the blank moniter off [21:03] and how much do i have? [21:03] karn`, Looks like 96mb [21:04] :| [21:04] karn`, what do you mean it turns the blank monitor "off"? [21:04] (try ctrl+alt+f2) [21:04] well it starts loading stuff [21:04] saying [OK] [21:04] karn`, are you at a login prompt? [21:04] (pushing the buttons just changes your vt) [21:04] (vt is virtual terminal) [21:04] and then the last thing is that ubiquity [21:04] no [21:05] the screen goes blank after that [21:05] karn`, take a picture [21:05] of what? [21:05] before it goes blank? [21:06] theres some stuff that it says it cant find, some apci drivers or something [21:06] wow thats weird [21:07] now its doing something else [21:07] it shut down and when i turned it back it it started back at that * starting ubiquity thing [21:07] but the font is really big [21:08] it seems to went past that to *starting peridioc command scheduler [21:09] think hardy would go any better? [21:10] hmm [21:15] its all fscked up now [21:16] heh [21:17] oh well ill go back to trying to my wireless to work in breezy [21:25] var/lib/acpi-support/manufacture;product-name,system-version, and bios-version cannot be found? could that be the problem? [21:31] hello [21:32] how would i install xubuntu with the alternative iso? [21:32] You pop 'er in and install! :) [21:32] cody-somerville, i have windowsXP [21:32] You need to burn it to a cd [21:33] i did [21:33] and then boot from the cd [21:33] well [21:33] it dosn't boot up [21:34] nor do i see how it can [21:36] set ur bios options to boot from cd first [21:37] if u want a dual boot system u will need to partition a drive for linux then install on that drive [21:41] completely noob quextion [21:41] how do I get the terminal up to put in sudo etc etc [21:42] it should be under applications i think [21:43] yep applications>accessories [21:43] hmm [21:43] so can i just extract the iso to a jump drive and boot from that? [21:43] * PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn waits for the computer to reboot for the 1000th time [21:43] do you think i would still have the same problem? [21:44] or what about installing hardy? [21:49] R1cochet, can i install Xubuntu inside windows? [21:51] i ahve no idea how to edit my bios [21:51] have* === my_key_ is now known as my_key [22:13] this is infuriating [22:13] i've moved the hard disk over to the other PC [22:13] and now xubuntu is running perfectly...... [22:42] * PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn bbs, swapping hard disks again!!! [22:51] I have a 512MB 800MHz. machine and installed Xubuntu on it..I love it..but when I run firefox, it slows everything down..any tweaks that you can suggest? Thanks. [22:52] I tried SeaMonkey etc. same result...Dillo is too light weight for me. [22:52] Ravi: jus tall the general tweaks for firefox [22:52] just all* [22:53] TheSheep: hmmm..for example ... ? [22:53] Why not try Epiphany... Lighter than firefox, accepts plugins and addons if you want them. [22:53] Ravi: you candisable java and javascript, limit the amount of memory and cache, etc. [22:54] Ravi: google should help you [22:54] charlie: Didn't try Epiphany..will give it a chance..Sea Monkey is what I tried. [22:54] TheSheep: Ah, ok...I was wondering if there is anything specific that I could do at Xubuntu level to make it faster...at times I can see memory maxing out in "top"...very frustrating. [22:55] Ravi: disable unneeded services [22:55] like cups if you don't own a printer [22:55] Ravi: but I suppose it won't help much [22:56] making sure you don't open too many tabs in ff helps too [22:56] question for you [22:56] why would unbuntu run fine on 1 system [22:56] but not the other [22:56] charlie : between SeaMonkey and Epiphany, would you say Epiphany is faster? [22:57] especially when both systems will run XP [22:57] TheSheep: Ok, thanks for your help. [23:13] I seem to be in a quandary, I'm using the Xubuntu 7.10 disc to be used as a livedisc, and I'm trying to open up terminal so I can run fsck, but everytime I do so, the GUI crashes on me [23:14] and even making a new launcher of Terminal, it crashes the GUI and then makes me relog [23:14] DrDerek, can you file a bug report? [23:15] DrDerek: hmm... try a tty? ctrl+alt+f2 ? [23:15] I'll try a tty [23:15] DrDerek, Whats the output of dmesg? [23:16] hmm, not sure how I would get it to be able to show you [23:17] I just now I have some kinda corrupt hd [23:18] but I think I got it now, using TTY [23:18] running fsck [23:19] DrDerek: is your drive formatted ext2? or ext3? [23:19] It's ext3 [23:19] ok. [23:20] It runs Ubuntu, but something got screwy during an update [23:20] Does Xubuntu run faster if installed on a separate hard drive as opposed to on a partition disk sharing Windoze? Or doesn't it matter? [23:20] and it wouldn't even let me use the livedisc of Ubuntu, so trying Xubuntu [23:20] Ravi, generally it shouldn't matter, just depends on your ram, I guess [23:20] and the RPM of your hardrive [23:21] Dr: Ok, Thanks. [23:21] I duel boot Windows and Ubuntu on my laptop on a single Hard Drive. [23:21] and I have 2GB of RAM and each OS works fine independently [23:22] yes, I have the same set up on my laptop....2GB RMAN..and everything works fine... [23:22] On my PC though..I have 512MB RAM and 800MHz...over there things are slow..so I was wondering. [23:23] Laptop has Ubuntu...PC has Xubuntu... [23:23] yeah, an 800Mhz processor while duel booting high-end OS' could run slow [23:23] but then again, I run XP and an older version of Ubuntu on a 700Mhz [23:23] tried all kinds of distros on the PC...DSL etc. are too small...ubuntu etc. don't even show up..settled with Xubuntu... [23:23] with 512MB [23:23] Windows XP runs easier than Ubuntu though. [23:24] but I want to get away from Windoze :-) [23:24] (don't we all?) [23:24] meh, Windows isn't THAT bad of an OS if you can use it properly [23:24] Or get it for free because of student licensing . :) [23:25] yeah..it's not that bad if you want to continously worry about spyware and viruses :-) [23:25] Internet Explorer sucks! (yeah I know..there's firefox for windoze) [23:25] I will honestly say though, I have not got a virus / spyware/ or adware in 3 years on any of my windows boxes [23:26] it's not a matter of If..but when...just wait and see :-) [23:26] I dunno, I'm pretty good with my system management [23:26] anyway..Xubuntu is great...if only I can somehow tweak Firefox to run faster. [23:27] this is Xubuntu 8.0.4 btw. [23:27] You could use google chrome [23:27] I can't add any more memory...It was originally a 128MB pc... [23:27] bumped upto 512MB..the max, it can take. [23:27] chrome for Linux?? [23:28] It's still beta isn't it? [23:30] since adding the updates xubuntu seems to be running more stable [23:30] its hanging less anyway [23:31] but still not really usuable [23:32] Ravi - you could use wine for chrome [23:33] ah ok [23:34] any idea why it wont install flash [23:34] if I can get it reasonably stable and able to access the web, including youtube I'll be happy [23:48] heya, could someone please send their /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf to the pastebin (hardy or intrepid), thanks [23:52] cant install flash, close down updates aptitute etc... [23:52] what processes do I end [23:52] !aptfix [23:52] If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » [23:53] where did you get your flash package from? [23:54] repo? .deb from adobe? .tar.gz from adobe? [23:54] .deb from adobe [23:55] it asks for password [23:55] got GDebo running? [23:55] then says to close any other installers [23:55] Gdebi* [23:55] will check in a second [23:55] it just crashed again [23:56] synaptic, gdebi, update manager, source list... [23:58] thing that puzzles me, xubuntu is being a hell of a lot more unstable than XP [23:58] i tried the computer out with a HD that had XP installed on, and though it was a bit slow, it did run [23:59] how is it more unstable? [23:59] keeps rebooting/crashing [23:59] whats bizare