[00:36] <j_bsdxinu> man so quite here today
[00:37] <Shaba1> It normally is.
[00:37] <Shaba1> everytime that I have been here.
[00:55] <CorruptDropbear> hi
[00:56] <CorruptDropbear> Just a quick question, can anyone point me to the minimum specifications of xubuntu? EG how much ram, cpu speed is needed?
[00:58] <Odd-rationale> !specs | CorruptDropbear
[00:58] <CorruptDropbear> Thank you very much!
[00:58] <Odd-rationale> np
[00:59] <CorruptDropbear> Yes, it should work on our system of 128mb!
[00:59] <Odd-rationale> well...
[00:59] <Odd-rationale> slowly, yeah...
[01:00] <CorruptDropbear> As long as it works. Don't really care about speed, currently the computers don't even work.
[01:00] <CorruptDropbear> thanks
[01:10] <ben-jackon> :-D
[01:25] <radlipat> how i format second hardrive? it still has windows stuff on it but idc. i only have 3 gig to work with right now!!!
[01:37] <R1cochet> well u can leave as ntfs
[01:37] <R1cochet> !ntfs
[01:38] <R1cochet> or u can get gparted
[01:38] <R1cochet> !gparted
[02:26] <karmaleon> Kazehakase has crashed sometimes with me :-(
[02:26] <karmaleon> I guess I'll need to try another lightweight browser.
[02:27] <karmaleon> Anyone having the same problem?
[02:50] <ball> Anyone here familiar with Xubuntu's Xfce configuration?
[02:50] <charlie-tca> depends on the question. Please ask and let´s find out!
[02:51] <ball> okay, I have a fairly clean Xubuntu box and I just connected via ssh and launched vncserver.
[02:51] <ball> I edited my .vnc/xstartup file to launch xfdesktop, which gives me a trash can, home folder and filesystem
[02:51] <ball> icon
[02:52] <ball> I was able to spawn an xterm and manually launch Xfwm4
[02:52] <ball> ...so now my windows are managed.
[02:52] <ball> What do I need to launch if I want the Xubuntu menus?
[02:53] <ball> Aha!
[02:53] <ball> xfce-panel
[02:53] <charlie-tca> Did you get the top and bottom panels... I see you found it
[02:53] <ball> brb, editing my xstartup file and rebooting.
[03:01] <ball> charlie-tca: anything else I need to run for this to closely match the Xubuntu console experience?
[03:02] <charlie-tca> not that i can think of
[03:02] <ball> Hmm... wonder if it's worth documenting this.
[03:02] <R1cochet> umm isnt there a xubuntu-desktop pack in the repos?
[03:02] <R1cochet> ball: yes it is
[03:02] <charlie-tca> yes
[03:03] <ball> R1cochet: if there is, I doubt it does this.
[03:03] <charlie-tca> R1cochet: yes, there is
[03:03] <R1cochet> ball i was going to do the samething in a week or two
[03:03] <charlie-tca> ball: yes, it's worth putting on the help wiki
[03:04] <R1cochet> ball what did u start w/?
[03:04] <charlie-tca> There are quite a few questions here and in the users-mailing-list about doing that
[03:04] <ball> R1cochet: Xubuntu.
[03:05] <vidd> what is the issue?
[03:05] <ball> vidd: only issue left is that vncserver doesn't seem to work with named colours
[03:05] <ball> ...so I can't do "xterm -fg white -bg black" for example
[03:05] <ball> ...or "xload -hl blue"
[03:06] <vidd> hrm...i wasnt aware you could specify colors in vnc =\
[03:06] <ball> vidd: you can't, but that's a deficiency of vncserver's X server implementation I think.
[03:06] <ball> ....I count it a bug.
[03:07] <vidd> can you do it in any other remote desktop ?
[03:08] <ball> I don't know of another remote desktop that is an X server
[03:08] <vidd> well....can windows do it?
[03:09] <ball> Windows doesn't have an X server (by default)
[03:09] <vidd> im not talking about an x server
[03:09] <ball> I am.
[03:09] <ball> brb
[03:10] <vidd> im talking about remote desktopcan window's remote desktop let you specify colors?
[03:10] <vidd> if not, then it is a "feature request" and not a bug
[03:12] <ball> "specify colors" is meaningless (or doesn't mean the same thing) outside an X environment, so it's a null question.
[03:12] <vidd> then its a feature request, not a bug
[03:12]  * ball shrugs
[03:12] <ball> I count it a bug
[03:12] <ball> Not a Xubuntu bug mind you,
[03:12] <ball> ...a vnc4server bug
[04:06] <ball> http://potchery.blogspot.com/  <- documented.
[06:14] <kkkyle> is this a good distro
[06:18] <kkkyle> is this a good distro
[08:27] <R1cochet> !rom
[08:27] <R1cochet> !emulator
[08:28] <R1cochet> is there a nes emulator for xubuntu?
[08:28] <zoredache_> sure
[08:28] <zoredache> of course it depends on what platform you are asking about
[08:29] <zoredache> !info nestra
[08:31] <R1cochet> cool but is there one for 64bit?
[08:31] <R1cochet> and where can i get roms for it?
[08:33] <zoredache> I suspect you might want to google that one.  Unless you OWN the game already then downloading the ROM would be copyright infringment...
[08:34] <R1cochet> is there one for 64bit?
[08:35] <zoredache> I don't know...
[08:38] <zoredache> R1cochet: do you know you can use 'apt-cache search {keyword}' in a terminal to search for applications?
[08:38] <zoredache> you can also look at packages.ubuntu.com
[08:39] <R1cochet> i did not thank you
[13:30] <FlyOnTheWall> I was hoping for some guidance as to configuring the LTSP on Xubuntu, it seems the normal configuration files do not apply, does anybody know something about this?
[17:06] <estres> hi all
[17:06] <estres> what is the difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu?
[17:17] <Pici> estres: Xubuntu comes with xfce as its desktop environment, Ubuntu comes with Gnome.
[17:17] <Pici> !flavors
[17:18] <estres> Pici: I see, thank you
[17:19] <estres> so far as I read Gnome is better that Xfce, just what I read in internet
[17:21] <knome> estres, it depends a lot on what you need
[17:21] <knome> and what you want
[17:24] <estres> knome: Yes I know, I am very rookie in this matter so may be I am shooting some dumb thougts for some of you
[17:25] <vidd> what is the default pdf viewer in xubuntu?
[17:58] <david-kit-friedm> Hello
[19:02] <Sinister`> ( System: Linux 2.6.27-9-generic on Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz )( Bogomips: 12553.11 )( Memory: total: 3260.7 MB used: 544.5 MB [||||||||||] )( Disks: total: 742.7 GB used: 40.9 GB [||||||||||] )( Uptime: 3h 3min 30s )( Load avg: 0.00 0.00 0.00 )( Vpenis: 238.4 cm )( eth0: Rx: 2.2 MB [25 B/s] Tx: 657.6 kB [32 B/s] )( CPU Temp: 31.0°C )
[19:05] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> anyone alive here??
[19:05] <leche> no, were all dead...
[19:06] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> standard for IRC then
[19:06] <leche> you cant be successful on irc if youre alive
[19:06] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> you any good at sorting out problems with xubuntu
[19:07] <Sinister`> ( System: Linux 2.6.27-9-generic on Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz )( Bogomips: 12553.11 )( Memory: total: 3260.7 MB used: 544.7 MB [||||||||||] )( Disks: total: 742.7 GB used: 40.9 GB [||||||||||] )( Uptime: 3h 7min 54s )( Load avg: 0.00 0.01 0.00 )( Vpenis: 238.4 cm )( eth0: Rx: 2.2 MB [855 B/s] Tx: 672.9 kB [93 B/s] )( CPU Temp: 30.0°C )
[19:08] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> I've installed xubuntu on an older desktop (about 4YO) but its rather unstable
[20:38] <karn`> im tryin to install xubuntu ibex and it keeps freezing during install
[20:39] <karn`> the moniter will flash, then go blank, and tahts that...
[20:42] <karn`> i did a mem test..i checked the disk...i tried the oem install..i did a low graphics install
[20:45] <karn`> :|
[20:50] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> can you boot from USB, I got mine installed that way, though there are other problems I'm suffering with
[20:51] <cody-somerville> : (
[20:51] <karn`> you mean put it on a jump drive?
[20:51] <karn`> extract the iso to one?
[20:51] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> yup
[20:52] <karn`> it seems like it goes to test the vidoe card driver and thats when it locks up or doesnt come back on...
[20:52] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> I burned a dvd, and none of the PCs would boot from it
[20:52] <cody-somerville> karn`, whats your video driver?
[20:52] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> but the USB thing worked
[20:52] <karn`> but if i hit the power button it will come back on and unload then shutdown
[20:52] <karn`> i dont know
[20:52] <cody-somerville> PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn, you probably just needed to modify your boot order in your bios settings
[20:52] <cody-somerville> karn`, ooo
[20:52] <cody-somerville> karn`, sounds like I know what the problem might be
[20:52] <karn`> defalt for gateway solo 2550
[20:52] <cody-somerville> karn`, when it goes to the black screen
[20:53] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> I did, was set to CD drive, and wouldn't boot from that
[20:53] <cody-somerville> try pushing alt+ctrl+f1
[20:53] <karn`> ok
[20:53] <cody-somerville> PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn, how were you burning the ISOs?
[20:53] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> however using the USB in a different computer I was able to install it on the hard drive
[20:53] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> nero 8
[20:53] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> data dvd
[20:53] <cody-somerville> PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn, no no
[20:53] <cody-somerville> PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn, we don't provide dvd images
[20:54] <cody-somerville> PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn, and a data dvd will just burn the iso file
[20:54] <cody-somerville> PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn, you need to burn it as an image
[20:54] <karn`> i only got 400mhz and im not sure on the ram, the mem test says: L1 cache 32m, L2 cache 128m, and Mem: 96M
[20:56] <centr0> where can i find my startup programs?
[20:56] <karn`> too bad i couldnt get my wireless to work in breezy
[21:00] <karn`> maybe in the /usr/ folder?
[21:01] <karn`> it says Starting Ubiquity...... Flashes, then nothing
[21:02] <cody-somerville> karn`, oh
[21:02] <cody-somerville> karn`, you need 192mb of ram
[21:02] <karn`> hmm
[21:02] <karn`> ctrl alt f1 doesnt do anthuing
[21:02] <karn`> well
[21:03] <karn`> it turns the blank moniter off
[21:03] <karn`> and how much do i have?
[21:03] <cody-somerville> karn`, Looks like 96mb
[21:04] <karn`> :|
[21:04] <cody-somerville> karn`, what do you mean it turns the blank monitor "off"?
[21:04] <cody-somerville> (try ctrl+alt+f2)
[21:04] <karn`> well it starts loading stuff
[21:04] <karn`> saying [OK]
[21:04] <cody-somerville> karn`, are you at a login prompt?
[21:04] <cody-somerville> (pushing the buttons just changes your vt)
[21:04] <cody-somerville> (vt is virtual terminal)
[21:04] <karn`> and then the last thing is that ubiquity
[21:04] <karn`> no
[21:05] <karn`> the screen goes blank after that
[21:05] <cody-somerville> karn`, take a picture
[21:05] <karn`> of what?
[21:05] <karn`> before it goes blank?
[21:06] <karn`> theres some stuff that it says it cant find, some apci drivers or something
[21:06] <karn`> wow thats weird
[21:07] <karn`> now its doing something else
[21:07] <karn`> it shut down and when i turned it back it it started back at that * starting ubiquity thing
[21:07] <karn`> but the font is really big
[21:08] <karn`> it seems to went past that to *starting peridioc command scheduler
[21:09] <karn`> think hardy would go any better?
[21:10] <karn`> hmm
[21:15] <karn`> its all fscked up now
[21:16] <karn`> heh
[21:17] <karn`> oh well ill go back to trying to my wireless to work in breezy
[21:25] <karn`> var/lib/acpi-support/manufacture;product-name,system-version, and bios-version cannot be found? could that be the problem?
[21:31] <Octoroks> hello
[21:32] <Octoroks> how would i install xubuntu with the alternative iso?
[21:32] <cody-somerville> You pop 'er in and install! :)
[21:32] <Octoroks> cody-somerville, i have windowsXP
[21:32] <cody-somerville> You need to burn it to a cd
[21:33] <Octoroks> i did
[21:33] <cody-somerville> and then boot from the cd
[21:33] <Octoroks> well
[21:33] <Octoroks> it dosn't boot up
[21:34] <Octoroks> nor do i see how it can
[21:36] <R1cochet> set ur bios options to boot from cd first
[21:37] <R1cochet> if u want a dual boot system u will need to partition a drive for linux then install on that drive
[21:41] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> completely noob quextion
[21:41] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> how do I get the terminal up to put in sudo etc etc
[21:42] <karn`> it should be under applications i think
[21:43] <R1cochet> yep applications>accessories
[21:43] <karn`> hmm
[21:43] <karn`> so can i just extract the iso to a jump drive and boot from that?
[21:43]  * PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn waits for the computer to reboot for the 1000th time
[21:43] <karn`> do you think i would still have the same problem?
[21:44] <karn`> or what about installing hardy?
[21:49] <Octoroks> R1cochet, can i install Xubuntu inside windows?
[21:51] <Octoroks> i ahve no idea how to edit my bios
[21:51] <Octoroks> have*
[22:13] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> this is infuriating
[22:13] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> i've moved the hard disk over to the other PC
[22:13] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> and now xubuntu is running perfectly......
[22:42]  * PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn bbs, swapping hard disks again!!!
[22:51] <Ravi> I have a 512MB 800MHz. machine and installed Xubuntu on it..I love it..but when I run firefox, it slows everything down..any tweaks that you can suggest?  Thanks.
[22:52] <Ravi> I tried SeaMonkey etc. same result...Dillo is too light weight for me.
[22:52] <TheSheep> Ravi: jus tall the general tweaks for firefox
[22:52] <TheSheep> just all*
[22:53] <Ravi> TheSheep: hmmm..for example ... ?
[22:53] <charlie-tca> Why not try Epiphany... Lighter than firefox, accepts plugins and addons if you want them.
[22:53] <TheSheep> Ravi: you candisable java and javascript, limit the amount of memory and cache, etc.
[22:54] <TheSheep> Ravi: google should help you
[22:54] <Ravi> charlie: Didn't try Epiphany..will give it a chance..Sea Monkey is what I tried.
[22:54] <Ravi> TheSheep:  Ah, ok...I was wondering if there is anything specific that I could do at Xubuntu level to make it faster...at times I can see memory maxing out in "top"...very frustrating.
[22:55] <TheSheep> Ravi: disable unneeded services
[22:55] <TheSheep> like cups if you don't own a printer
[22:55] <TheSheep> Ravi: but I suppose it won't help much
[22:56] <TheSheep> making sure you don't open too many tabs in ff helps too
[22:56] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> question for you
[22:56] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> why would unbuntu run fine on 1 system
[22:56] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> but not the other
[22:56] <Ravi> charlie : between SeaMonkey and Epiphany, would you say Epiphany is faster?
[22:57] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> especially when both systems will run XP
[22:57] <Ravi> TheSheep: Ok, thanks for your help.
[23:13] <DrDerek> I seem to be in a quandary, I'm using the Xubuntu 7.10 disc to be used as a livedisc, and I'm trying to open up terminal so I can run fsck, but everytime I do so, the GUI crashes on me
[23:14] <DrDerek> and even making a new launcher of Terminal, it crashes the GUI and then makes me relog
[23:14] <cody-somerville> DrDerek, can you file a bug report?
[23:15] <Odd-rationale> DrDerek: hmm... try a tty? ctrl+alt+f2 ?
[23:15] <DrDerek> I'll try a tty
[23:15] <cody-somerville> DrDerek, Whats the output of dmesg?
[23:16] <DrDerek> hmm, not sure how I would get it to be able to show you
[23:17] <DrDerek> I just now I have some kinda corrupt hd
[23:18] <DrDerek> but I think I got it now, using TTY
[23:18] <DrDerek> running fsck
[23:19] <Odd-rationale> DrDerek: is your drive formatted ext2? or ext3?
[23:19] <DrDerek> It's ext3
[23:19] <Odd-rationale> ok.
[23:20] <DrDerek> It runs Ubuntu, but something got screwy during an update
[23:20] <Ravi> Does Xubuntu run faster if installed on a separate hard drive as opposed to on a partition disk sharing Windoze?  Or doesn't it matter?
[23:20] <DrDerek> and it wouldn't even let me use the livedisc of Ubuntu, so trying Xubuntu
[23:20] <DrDerek> Ravi,  generally it shouldn't matter, just depends on your ram, I guess
[23:20] <DrDerek> and the RPM of your hardrive
[23:21] <Ravi> Dr: Ok, Thanks.
[23:21] <DrDerek> I duel boot Windows and Ubuntu on my laptop on a single Hard Drive.
[23:21] <DrDerek> and I have 2GB of RAM and each OS works fine independently
[23:22] <Ravi> yes, I have the same set up on my laptop....2GB RMAN..and everything works fine...
[23:22] <Ravi> On my PC though..I have 512MB RAM and 800MHz...over there things are slow..so I was wondering.
[23:23] <Ravi> Laptop has Ubuntu...PC has Xubuntu...
[23:23] <DrDerek> yeah, an 800Mhz processor while duel booting high-end OS' could run slow
[23:23] <DrDerek> but then again, I run XP and an older version of Ubuntu on a 700Mhz
[23:23] <Ravi> tried all kinds of distros on the PC...DSL etc. are too small...ubuntu etc. don't even show up..settled with Xubuntu...
[23:23] <DrDerek> with 512MB
[23:23] <DrDerek> Windows XP runs easier than Ubuntu though.
[23:24] <Ravi> but I want to get away from Windoze :-)
[23:24] <Ravi> (don't we all?)
[23:24] <DrDerek> meh, Windows isn't THAT bad of an OS if you can use it properly
[23:24] <DrDerek> Or get it for free because of student licensing . :)
[23:25] <Ravi> yeah..it's not that bad if you want to continously worry about spyware and viruses :-)
[23:25] <Ravi> Internet Explorer sucks!  (yeah I know..there's firefox for windoze)
[23:25] <DrDerek> I will honestly say though, I have not got a virus / spyware/ or adware in 3 years on any of my windows boxes
[23:26] <Ravi> it's not a matter of If..but when...just wait and see :-)
[23:26] <DrDerek> I dunno, I'm pretty good with my system management
[23:26] <Ravi> anyway..Xubuntu is great...if only I can somehow tweak Firefox to run faster.
[23:27] <Ravi> this is Xubuntu 8.0.4 btw.
[23:27] <DrDerek> You could use google chrome
[23:27] <Ravi> I can't add any more memory...It was originally a 128MB pc...
[23:27] <Ravi> bumped upto 512MB..the max, it can take.
[23:27] <Ravi> chrome for Linux??
[23:28] <Ravi> It's still beta isn't it?
[23:30] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> since adding the updates xubuntu seems to be running more stable
[23:30] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> its hanging less anyway
[23:31] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> but still not really usuable
[23:32] <DrDerek> Ravi - you could use wine for chrome
[23:33] <Ravi> ah ok
[23:34] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> any idea why it wont install flash
[23:34] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> if I can get it reasonably stable and able to access the web, including youtube I'll be happy
[23:48] <PsynoKhi0> heya, could someone please send their /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf to the pastebin (hardy or intrepid), thanks
[23:52] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> cant install flash, close down updates aptitute etc...
[23:52] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> what processes do I end
[23:52] <Odd-rationale> !aptfix
[23:53] <PsynoKhi0> where did you get your flash package from?
[23:54] <PsynoKhi0> repo? .deb from adobe? .tar.gz from adobe?
[23:54] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> .deb from adobe
[23:55] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> it asks for password
[23:55] <PsynoKhi0> got GDebo running?
[23:55] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> then says to close any other installers
[23:55] <PsynoKhi0> Gdebi*
[23:55] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> will check in a second
[23:55] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> it just crashed again
[23:56] <PsynoKhi0> synaptic, gdebi, update manager, source list...
[23:58] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> thing that puzzles me, xubuntu is being a hell of a lot more unstable than XP
[23:58] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> i tried the computer out with a HD that had XP installed on, and though it was a bit slow, it did run
[23:59] <PsynoKhi0> how is it more unstable?
[23:59] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> keeps rebooting/crashing
[23:59] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> whats bizare