[02:04] <NCommander> hey apachelogger
[02:06] <ScottK> NCommander: I'm sort of back now.
[02:06] <NCommander> Oh good
[02:06] <ScottK> Where are we on stuff ...
[02:06] <NCommander> NEEDSPONSOR
[02:07] <vorian> oh my
[02:08] <ScottK> NCommander: OK.  What first?  python-qt4?
[02:08] <NCommander> Yeah
[02:09] <ScottK> Shoot me a link
[02:09] <NCommander> But they can be uploaded in any order, the dependencies will sort themselves out
[02:09] <ScottK> I feel pythonish at the moment.
[02:09] <ScottK> NCommander: Did you make the launchpad-integration change in kde4libs we discussed earlier?
[02:09] <NCommander> No, I haven't been home
[02:10] <ScottK> OK.  I'll get it.
[02:10] <NCommander> ScottK, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4bindings/+bug/308814
[02:10]  * NCommander hopes to still get the upload credit ;-) *gunshot*
[02:17] <ScottK> Test build started for python-qt4
[02:17] <NCommander> ScottK, it is all test built in my PPA ...
[02:17] <NCommander> But yeah
[02:18] <ScottK> NCommander: How much crap got uploaded as soon as the Alpha freeze got lifted and will it build now?
[02:18] <NCommander> fair enough
[02:19]  * ScottK isn't gonna get caught saying "I didn't test build it because $NOTACOREDEV told me a didn't have to ...
[02:25] <NCommander> fair enough ;-)
[02:31] <jjesse-dell9> evening
[02:42] <rgreening> hey jjesse-dell9
[02:42] <mcasadevall> rgreening, !
[02:43] <rgreening> hey back mcasadevall
[02:43] <mcasadevall> rgreening, feel like hacking :-)
[02:44] <rgreening> heh, almost bedtime for me. The tranqs the doc has me on are real knockouts
[02:44] <rgreening> what time you around tomorrow mcasadevall
[02:45] <ScottK> NCommander: Building kde4libs too.
[02:45] <mcasadevall> right
[02:45] <ScottK> ... on battery.
[02:45] <mcasadevall> you won't be able to build bindings without both of those
[02:45] <mcasadevall> ScottK, er, upload to a PPA?
[02:45] <mcasadevall> Probably faster
[02:45] <ScottK> Trying to see if I can crush the maching.
[02:45] <ScottK> I'm old fashioned.
[02:46] <rgreening> you have fashion?
[02:47] <ScottK> Definitely not.
[02:48] <ScottK> I've been married 8 years and I still have clothes I bought before we got married that I connsider 'relatively new'.
[02:48] <mcasadevall> o_o;
[02:48] <mcasadevall> That and your 10 year old coffee
[02:48] <ScottK> mcasadevall: Tossed them at a PPA too, just for completeness
[02:48] <ScottK> mcasadevall: I'm fairly certain I still own underwear as old as you are.
[02:49] <rgreening> ok, that disturbs me
[02:49]  * mcasadevall has that weird feeling that looking at ScottK, I see my own future
[03:07] <ScottK> rgreening: Any idea how to make libnotify/dbus pop-ups look like Kubuntu and not Ubuntu.
[03:08] <ScottK> The brown one is KDE, the other is QT : http://kitterman.com/kubuntu/notify.png
[03:33] <ryanakca> ScottK: here it's in KDE colors... *grabs a screenshot*
[03:33] <ScottK> ryanakca: Using quassel and dbus?
[03:33] <ryanakca> quassel, no. Just a ``notify-send "testing popus"''
[03:34]  * ScottK tries
[03:35] <ryanakca> ScottK: http://ryanak.ca/~ryan/notify-send1.png
[03:35] <ryanakca> Well, closer to KDE colors than the icky orange
[03:37] <ryanakca> ScottK: You can also change the theme with ``gconftool-2 -t string -s /apps/notification-daemon/theme <theme>''
[03:38] <ScottK> Hmmm
[03:39] <ryanakca> ScottK: gconftool-2 -t string -s /apps/notification-daemon/theme standard    for that theme... according to http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-143061.html , options are standard, bubble and ubuntu. I'm guessing you're using the ubuntu theme
[03:39] <ScottK> Sounds like.
[03:39] <ScottK> It'd be nice for there to be a Kubuntu one in there too.
[03:39] <ryanakca> *nod*
[03:40] <ryanakca> Or we could patch everything to use knotify :P
[03:40] <ryanakca> What source package would have the themes?
[03:40] <ryanakca> s/knotify/whatever KDE uses/g
[03:41] <mcasadevall> ScottK, how goes python-qt4?
[03:42] <ScottK> Good thing I threw it at the PPA.  Hard drive ran out of room.
[03:42] <ScottK> It was going great until then.
[03:43] <ScottK> Python built
[03:44]  * ryanakca => bed
[03:44] <ScottK> mcasadevall: Python-qt4 uploaded.  Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu.
[03:45]  * mcasadevall waves
[03:46]  * mcasadevall pops open his draft emails
[03:52]  * mcasadevall waits for libs
[04:15] <ScottK> NCommander: kde4libs uploaded.  Thank you for your contributionto Kubuntu.
[04:45] <ScottK> rgreening: First less is kvirc-kde4_4.0.0~svn20081215-0ubuntu1, not kvirc-kde4_4.0.0+svn20081215-0ubuntu1.  If there next release is 4.0, then you want a version number less than that.  + makes it higher.
[04:54] <ScottK> rgreening: debian/copyright needs to say the year of the copyrights.
[04:55] <ScottK> Needs a thorough check for the new version.
[04:55] <ScottK> I found one file that was GPL v1 or a later version ...., but upstream seems to be relying on GPLv2.
[04:56] <ScottK> rgreening: debian/changelog should describe the actual changes in the packaging too (but you knew that).
[05:02] <ScottK> rgreening: No need to include postinst/prerm that only contain the debhelper token.  They'll be automagically generated.
[05:02] <ScottK> kvirc-dev-kde4 postinst and prerm can be deleted.
[05:03] <ScottK> rgreening: It looks to me like you've got usr/lib/*.so* in both kvirc-kde4 and the -dev package.
[05:03] <ScottK> Doesn't that make the package conflict?
[05:04]  * ScottK notes it's late and he's tired, so no guarantees these comments are correct.
[05:05] <ScottK> rgreening: Don't over-ride kvirc: binary-without-manpage kvirc.  It's a PITA, but it's a valid warning.
[05:06]  * ScottK thinks kvirc: menu-icon-missing /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/kvirc.xpm
[05:07] <ScottK> ... is not such a great over-ride either.
[05:07] <ScottK> that's where you tell it to look for it in your menu file.
[05:08] <ScottK> rgreening: In kvirc-kde4.postrm, don't you want ldconfig on purge too?
[05:26] <NCommander> hey ScottK
[05:33] <ScottK> Hey
[05:33] <ScottK> NCommander: ....
[05:34] <NCommander> what did I do?
[05:34]  * NCommander hasn't broken the archive. Yet.
[05:34] <ScottK> You said hey.  I said hey back.
[05:35] <NCommander> But then you ...'ed me!
[05:35] <ScottK> Oh.  I guess I should have ^^^ you.
[05:36] <NCommander> I'll see your ^^^ and raise you a O_O;
[05:39] <ScottK> NCommander: kde4bindings uploaded.   Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu.
[05:41] <NCommander> lol
[05:42] <ScottK> NCommander: I'm going to want to backport mlt soon I think.  Any chance you could look into it's FTBFS problems on ports soonish?
[05:43] <NCommander> ScottK, WTF is mlt?
[05:44] <ScottK> Multimedia some thing.
[05:44] <ScottK> Needed for Kdenlive.
[05:44] <ScottK> Which now has a KDE4 version that people are clamoring for.
[05:46] <NCommander> That build failure log looks miserable
[05:50] <NCommander> ScottK, I can guess what's going on
[05:50] <ScottK> Please.
[05:50] <ScottK> NCommander: It's in Universe, so you can fix it right up ...
[05:51] <NCommander> I said I know whats going on, I have no idea if I can fix it ;-)
[05:58] <ScottK> I have a great deal of confidence in you.
[06:02] <ScottK> rgreening: As predicted trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libkvilib4.so', which is also in package kvirc-dev-kde4
[06:02] <ScottK> It built though ...
[06:04] <ScottK> rgreening: Does it really need KDE4.2 or can the depends be relaxed and have it work with KDE 4.1 too?
[06:04] <ScottK> That's my comments ...
[06:07] <ScottK> apachelogger: When smarter appears, would you please point him at "[01:05:49] <slangasek> ScottK: kde4-style-bespin accepted; kwin4-style-bespin has a malformatted long desc, wanna fix?
[06:07] <ScottK> Or anyone else for that matter.
[06:09] <ScottK> didrocks and JontheEchidna: kdenlive uploaded.  Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu.
[06:10] <ScottK> Now I'm going to bed.
[06:10] <ScottK> Good night all.
[06:13] <ScottK> Oh, one more thing ...
[07:19] <nixternal> wasabi robotgeek!
[07:19]  * nixternal goes and gets a dr. pepper
[07:20] <robotgeek> howdy nixternal
[07:22] <nixternal> how have you been?
[07:22] <nixternal> haven't talked to you in a while
[07:22] <robotgeek> nixternal: pretty good. just busy with work and life.
[07:23] <nixternal> ya, pretty much the same here
[07:23] <robotgeek> submitting small patches to things i use (rockbox: rejected, working on new and sloccount) are a few recent ones
[07:23] <robotgeek> have not even upgraded to kde 4 :)
[07:23] <nixternal> ouch
[07:23] <nixternal> gotta love that rockbox :)
[07:24] <nixternal> you can at least use the amarok/kde4 theme for it if you have a sansa e260 :)
[07:24] <nixternal> that's what I use now
[07:24] <robotgeek> i actually use it :)
[07:24] <nixternal> nice
[07:24] <nixternal> you have a sansa or did the dev port it to other devices as well?
[07:25] <robotgeek> the cover thing works, the cover plugin for amarok also works, which is neat. so i get album covers in rock box
[07:25] <robotgeek> i have the same sansa. wooted it
[07:25] <nixternal> ahh, I need to get that cover plugin
[07:25] <nixternal> I forgot to install it last time I updated
[07:25] <robotgeek> also joined the local makers
[07:27] <robotgeek> keeps me busy. also 8 hours of writing code at work usually saps out motivation to sit in front of the computer and do stuff :)
[07:27] <nixternal> oh man, I can totally relate there
[07:28] <nixternal> though I got the boost I needed from UDS last week
[07:28] <robotgeek> excellent. did you have a good time?
[07:28] <nixternal> a very good time
[07:29] <nixternal> a lot of community, motu/core-dev, and kubuntu stuff that week
[07:29] <nixternal> as well as the google burritos that rocked!
[07:29] <Hobbsee> heh :)
[07:29] <Hobbsee> a lot of the google stuff rocked
[07:29] <nixternal> especially those burritos!
[07:29] <nixternal> and the lil doggies
[07:30] <robotgeek> great!
[07:31] <robotgeek> i have not done any work with kubuntu in a year and a half. i think about leaving the teams, but i am hoping i will get off my butt and do something :)
[07:31] <nixternal> hehe
[07:34] <robotgeek> i should probably document the setup i have with mythtv + nvidia + dual screen + remote. it worked out pretty nicely. was nasty to configure.
[07:36] <robotgeek> nixternal: time for me to go away to bed. long day :). i'll catch up with you some other time
[07:36] <robotgeek> have a merry christmas, and a happy new year!
[07:37]  * robotgeek forgets this was -devel (sorry!)
[07:37] <nixternal> g'nite
[07:37] <nixternal> no problem, we need to break the ice in here every now and then
[07:38]  * Hobbsee grabs an axe
[08:21]  * NCommander throws Hobbsee through the ice
[09:35] <apachelogger> ryanakca, ScottK: I don't think patching quassel to use knotify/visualnoticiations.kde.org isn't too much work
[09:36] <apachelogger> IIRC the visualnotify stuff is mostly compatible with libnotify, so one just would need to change some things and it should work
[09:36]  * apachelogger goes shopping
[09:40] <didrocks> ScottK: thx :)
[11:11] <apachelogger> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-promo&m=122976021804479&w=2
[11:11] <apachelogger> :D
[11:12] <NCommander> flamewar in 3 ... 2 ... 1...
[11:13] <apachelogger> answer: because GTK is hell old and not even used by GNOME :P
[11:13] <apachelogger> GTK+ ftw
[11:13] <apachelogger> then again GTK+ was not really an option for KDE Uno...
[11:13] <apachelogger> anyways, I am AFK for cooking
[11:13] <NCommander> GTK was written for GIMP, and that was because Qt was non-free at the time, right?
[11:26] <apachelogger> ~wp gimp
[11:26] <kubotu> Results for gimp: 1. GIMP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMP | 2. Gimp (band): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimp_(band) | 3. GIMP - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMP
[11:26] <kubotu> [1] GIMP 2.6.0 running on KDE.
[11:26] <apachelogger> uhh that is a kubuntu snapshot, I tell you
[11:28] <apachelogger> NCommander: the question is did they even know about it
[11:29] <NCommander> apachelogger, I think the big reason GIMP wrote their own toolset is that until only a few years ago, Qt was non-free. That's what actually caused GNOME's existance
[11:30] <apachelogger> NCommander: few years?
[11:30] <apachelogger> >10 years IIRC
[11:30]  * NCommander runs to wikipedia
[11:30] <NCommander> Qt was always "free" as in beer
[11:31] <NCommander> But it was under the Q public license
[11:31] <NCommander> it was only relicensed under the GPL about five years ago or so
[11:32] <apachelogger> With the release of version 2.0 of the toolkit, the license was changed to the Q Public License (QPL), a free software license but one regarded by the Free Software Foundation as incompatible with the GPL.
[11:32] <NCommander> oh, my mistake
[11:32] <NCommander> sorry my memory gone a little fuzzy over the years
[11:32] <apachelogger> see, were enough years to cloud your memory :P
[11:33] <NCommander> I thought QPL wasn't a free license
[11:33] <apachelogger> that would make the public kinda pointless though
[11:33] <apachelogger> wikipedia--
[11:33] <apachelogger> the page on qt is a pita
[11:33]  * NCommander points apachelogger to the edit button
[11:34]  * Hobbsee edits NCommander
[11:34] <NCommander> BTW, apachelogger, please retry kde4bindings on ia64 for me
[11:34]  * NCommander deletes Hobbsee 
[11:34]  * Hobbsee also pokes him in the ribs, and watches him fall off his chair
[11:34] <apachelogger> I wouldn't be reading that page if I knew precisely when qt become dual licensed :P
[11:34] <Hobbsee> no, you can't delete any objects unless they're spawned from you, while you're editing yourself...
[11:36] <apachelogger> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:36] <apachelogger>   libplasma-dev: Depends: libplasma3 (= 4:4.1.85-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[11:36] <apachelogger> E: Broken packages
[11:36] <apachelogger> NCommander: wouldn't that only happen if something declares an unversioned dep on libplasma-dev?
[11:37]  * NCommander didn't touch that deps line
[11:37] <NCommander> Oh
[11:37] <NCommander> d'oh
[11:37] <NCommander> kde4bindings has an explicate build-dep on 4.1.85-0ubuntu2 or greater
[11:37] <apachelogger> very weird
[11:37] <NCommander> No, that was intentional :-)
[11:38]  * apachelogger always thought the debs get populated all at once
[11:38] <NCommander> it also has one on python-qt4
[11:38] <apachelogger> NCommander: I mean that the build failed
[11:38] <apachelogger> "This all became a moot point with the release of Qt 2.2. This and later versions of the free Qt are covered under a "dual" license."
[11:38]  * NCommander shrugs
[11:38] <apachelogger> now I just gotta find out when 2.2 got released
[11:38] <apachelogger> NCommander: retried
[11:39] <NCommander> Thanks
[11:39] <apachelogger> ah
[11:39] <apachelogger> german++
[11:39] <apachelogger> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_(Bibliothek)
[11:39] <NCommander> I don't read german
[11:39] <apachelogger> compare that page to the english one
[11:39] <apachelogger> a shame!
[11:39] <NCommander> sorry
[11:39] <apachelogger> NCommander: google can translate
[11:39] <NCommander> :-P
[11:39] <apachelogger> 7. Dezember 2000  2.2
[11:40] <apachelogger> "Controversy erupted around 1998 when it became clear that KDE was going to become one of the leading desktop environments for Linux."
[11:40] <apachelogger> so it took TT 2 years to resolve that issue, I consider this fast movement for a company ^_^
[11:44] <apachelogger> uhhh
[11:44] <apachelogger> memo++
[11:44] <apachelogger> smarter: read your memos :P
[11:45] <smarter> hmm
[11:46] <smarter> yup, the desc exceeds 80 chars, didn't thought it would be such a problem for an alpha :P
[11:46]  * smarter will fix that
[11:53] <f4l3_> I have seen the thing about konversation for jaunty
[11:54] <f4l3_> is not possible put a 'temporary' different client for IRC, based on kde4/qt4?
[11:55] <apachelogger> Nightrose: checkOut() started with component: kdeedu
[11:55] <apachelogger> f4l3_: sure, if there was a usable one :P
[11:57] <f4l3_> apachelogger: If I'm able to find one?
[12:01] <f4l3_> I mean, we are still in time to make changes like this?
[12:07] <f4l3_> apachelogger: btw, probably konversation will not be ready even for 9.10
[12:14] <|newbie|> ok
[12:14] <|newbie|> apachelogger: I think I found one :)
[12:15] <|newbie|> and it seems way better than konversation
[12:17] <apachelogger> which one?
[12:17] <|newbie|> apachelogger: KVIrc
[12:18] <apachelogger> we agreed that it looks like ...
[12:19] <Fale_> apachelogger: what do you mean?
[12:19] <apachelogger> Fale_: it's not exaclty looking sexy
[12:19] <Fale_> apachelogger: maybe a little bit of skinning?
[12:20] <Fale_> apachelogger: I mean, to me, it seems like we have three options
[12:20] <Fale_> - ship it w/out an IRC
[12:20] <Fale_> - ship it with konversation and with all the qt3
[12:20] <Fale_> - ship it with a different client
[12:20] <smarter> Fale_: we're investigating shipping Quassel
[12:21] <apachelogger> we have a lot more options really :P
[12:21] <apachelogger> 1) no IRC client
[12:21] <Fale_> smarter: I have tried it... it use a lot of RAM and CPU
[12:21] <apachelogger> 2) no IRC client but write a tiny app to download&&install&&start konvi and all the qt3 bloat
[12:21] <apachelogger> ship with kvirc
[12:21] <apachelogger> with kvirc-kde4
[12:21] <apachelogger> or with quassel
[12:21] <apachelogger> or with xchat
[12:22] <Fale_> apachelogger: my third covers all these...
[12:22] <apachelogger> though I doubt the latter would save much space even though we have a core gtk anyway
[12:22] <Fale_> apachelogger: why we have core gtk?
[12:22] <apachelogger> gtk-qt-engine
[12:23] <apachelogger> and OOo as well
[12:23] <Fale_> oh, ok, I thought it wasn't by default on the cd
[12:23] <Fale_> apachelogger: OOo is based on gtk?
[12:23] <Fale_> I thought it was only C++ the backend
[12:24] <apachelogger> no, it just happens to use it on linux
[12:25] <Fale_> apachelogger: btw the 'pure' theme for KVIrc is close to be acceptable, imho
[12:27] <Fale_> oh, I see
[12:28] <Fale_> apachelogger: but even OOo-kde is written in gtk?
[12:32] <f4l3_> bye
[12:33] <NCommander> wooo
[12:33] <NCommander> kde4libs built on arm
[12:33] <NCommander> go bindings go!
[12:33] <NCommander> apachelogger, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4bindings/4:4.1.85-0ubuntu2/+build/817865 - push retry please
[12:34] <NCommander> (so it will get pushed quickly into the build queue)
[12:43] <apachelogger> Fale_: ooo-kde is AFAIK just like gtk-qt-engine and uses different dialogs
[12:44] <NCommander> apachelogger, please retry :-)
[12:44] <apachelogger> NCommander: already did :P
[12:44] <NCommander> woo
[12:47] <milian> hi there
[12:47] <milian> which package do I need to install to get debug symbols for kate/kwrite etc. in KDE 4.2 beta 2 ?
[12:47] <milian> I installed kdebase-dev and kdelibs-dev
[12:47] <milian> but cannot find kwrite / kate-dev
[12:50] <apachelogger> milian: kdebase-workspace-dbg and kdesdk-dbg
[12:50] <apachelogger> -dev doesn't really have anything to do with debugging :P
[13:17] <f4l3_> apachelogger: that's not very cool (about the OOo-kde)
[13:19] <f4l3_> apachelogger: is there a statistic of the space usage of the disk?
[13:22] <apachelogger> f4l3_: no, feel free to make one ;-)
[13:22] <apachelogger> but OOo probably eats most
[13:23] <f4l3_> apachelogger: mmm use koffice instead of OOo?
[13:23] <apachelogger> doesn't messure up right now
[13:23] <f4l3_> apachelogger: and about the OOo's gui... I will think about that one day... but not today xD
[13:24] <f4l3_> messure = ?
[13:24] <apachelogger> s/messure/measure
[13:24]  * apachelogger is making up new words today :D
[13:25] <apachelogger> kde-nightly-kdeedu available to the public
[13:25] <f4l3_> apachelogger: I think I haven't got your phrase...
[13:26] <apachelogger> f4l3_: koffice doesn't have as many features as OOo and thus doesn't cover most use cases + it is a lot less table right now
[13:26] <apachelogger> *stable even
[13:28] <f4l3_> apachelogger: ok, I  got it
[14:03] <runpain2> I have Kubuntu 8.04 and have up graded 2.6.24 23 kernel i use gdesklets how can i use the desklets and not have the shell window popup when i boot up i want the desklets clock and quote of the day to load as i get to desktop
[14:11] <apachelogger> runpain2: #kubuntu for support please
[14:23] <milian> thanks apachelogger
[14:27] <devfil2> ScottK: any news about digikam-kde4?
[14:32] <stdin> apachelogger: anyone can suggest a factoid change you know ;)
[14:32] <apachelogger> stdin: there is no handbook, so I don't know :P
[14:32] <stdin> !bot
[14:32] <stdin> see the Usage info
[14:33] <stdin> you just do "!factoid is something" or "!factoid is <reply> something else"
[14:39] <stdin> !offtopic-#kubuntu-offtopic is <reply> #kubuntu-offtopic is the development channel for Kubuntu, please use #kubuntu for support questions and #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks
[14:39] <stdin> really?
[14:39] <stdin> ah, yes. dumb me
[14:39] <stdin> !offtopic-#kubuntu-devel is <reply> #kubuntu-offtopic is the development channel for Kubuntu, please use #kubuntu for support questions and #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks
[14:40] <jussi01> hehe
[14:40] <jussi01> stdin: I trust youll fix that?
[14:40] <stdin> yes :)
[14:40] <stdin> in /msg though
[14:40] <jussi01> hehe
[15:13] <ScottK> apachelogger: The issue you run into with stuff like the kde4bindings that you retried last night is that the -dev package is arch all while the main package arch any and so the newer -dev is there before the main package on a slow arch.  That makes the -dev uninstallable.  If a build-dep is uninstallable, as opposed to mearly not present, sbuild will fail the build.
[15:13] <ScottK> Oddly though if it's already depwait, and the -dev is uninstallable, it just leaves it depwait.
[15:13] <ScottK> There are bugs filed on this.
[15:13] <ScottK> Thanks for doing the retries.
[15:41] <lool> Folks, koffice failed to build due to patches not applying; is anybody looking into this already?
[15:43] <lool> bbiab
[16:05] <jjesse-dell9> morning
[17:09] <ScottK-palm> Hobbsee: Would you please rescore the armel build of kde4bindings?
[17:10]  * ScottK-palm will be back later.
[17:41] <lool> Hmm Debian has a newer koffice in experimental, 1.9.98
[17:45] <lool> Was koffice imported in a bzr branch?
[17:52] <lool> Would someone be so kind to check http://people.ubuntu.com/~lool/koffice_1.6.3-7ubuntu2.debdiff and either commit it or ack it?
[18:19]  * ScottK looks at Riddell ^^^
[18:19] <ScottK> Perhaps hell grace us with a visit.
[18:19] <ScottK> hell/he'll
[18:23] <lool> Heh it's almost xmas
[18:27] <seele> he's probably on holiday from his holiday.
[18:27] <ScottK> Probably.
[18:31] <nixternal> he is probably heading back home actually, as he stayed in sunnyvale for another week to travel via his brompton
[20:09] <Nightrose> apachelogger: yay @ edu  *hug*
[20:11] <jjesse> isn't there a package that provides extra plasmoids, kde-extras or something like that/
[20:21] <smarter> jjesse-dell9: kdeplasma-addons
[20:31] <lool> ScottK: Do you know whether koffice is kept in bzr?  If not would it be reasonnable to push this relatively small delta?
[20:32] <lool> I tried looking for it, but only found an old import from 1998
[22:31] <Hobbsee> ScottK: rescored
[22:38] <ScottK> lool: I don't know.  I think Riddell has been mostly doing that himself, but I'm not sure.
[22:38] <ScottK> Hobbsee: Thanks.
[22:41] <ScottK> rgreening: Did you see my comments on kvirc-kde4?
[22:54] <jjesse> hrmm anyone able to get the lcd weather plasmoid to work?  for me it doesn't show any data sources to find cities
[23:02] <ScottK> Would someone who  is running Jaunty, please install kdenlive and see if it works without ffmpeg installed?
[23:02] <ScottK> There are some conflicting reports about if it's needed for more than firewire capture.
[23:05] <Riddell> evening
[23:05] <ScottK> Good evening.
[23:06] <ScottK> I think the only pressing issue for you is lool's question about koffice.
[23:07] <Riddell> lool's patch looks fine
[23:07] <Riddell> there's no bzr for koffice (that I know of)
[23:14]  * ScottK looks at lool's patch.
[23:17] <nixternal> Riddell: you back home yet?
[23:35] <ScottK> Riddell and lool: I'm test building the koffice update now and will upload it once it finished.
[23:54] <Riddell> nixternal: yes, nice to have real internet again
[23:56] <nixternal> hehe, I hear you there
[23:56] <nixternal> I am at a LUG meeting now, but we are hacking on some google api stuff right now...pretty boring actually
[23:56] <nixternal> but we have lots of beer and we are looking at ordering pizza
[23:59] <DaSkreech> Does anyonehave working plasma shortcuts?