[00:01] <|djm|> hi everyone. i'm having trouble installing kubuntu 8.10 (alternate) from cd on an asus laptop. It reaches 'Select and install software', 1%, status is 'setting up...', when it comes up with 'Please insert the disc labeled Kubuntu |etc.| in the drive /cdrom/ and press enter', and the only option is Continue (which does nothing). Any ideas?
[00:03] <genii> |djm|: Perhaps try to find out what kind of controller the cdrom is attached to, and then if a driver exists for it. Then load the driver before installing from a terminal
[00:04] <genii> |djm|: Alternately, if you have an external cd unit which can be attached by USB, try to install from that. Since the usb-storage driver is known about by the installer.
[00:06] <|djm|> unfortunately I don't have an external cd. it's strange that it reads from the cd fine in all the preceding steps (and the cd verifies ok), but fails at this point
[00:07] <genii> |djm|: The reason is because it doesn't need to know what kind of driver the cd uses to boot in bios from it and run the installer itself, since thi loads into ram
[00:08] <Bauldrick> any small chance anyone here update there harmony (logitech) remote with congruity? if so can you still do it?
[00:09] <_gtt_> hey
[00:09] <_gtt_> i need some help. i'm using intrepid ibex with kde 4.1 on two computers and 4.2 on another, and on none of the computers does it save the application launcher widget that i re-add every time i log in. anyone able to help ?
[00:09] <genii> |djm|: Can you pastebin a:      lspci -nn            result?
[00:10] <genii> |djm|: This may give us a hint of what driver could be required
[00:11] <|djm|> genii: ah, ok. what is the best way to get a terminal up without a working system? the 'rescue a broken system' route?
[00:11] <blip99> hi all, where can I find the " Launch Feedback" in the System Settings... it seems to be missing as opposed to the normal KDE3.5
[00:12] <blip99> on kubuntu 8.04
[00:13] <genii> |djm|: Besides the alternate cd, you have a regular livecd? Can be done from there
[00:13] <genii> |djm|: Can also be done from in alternate but convoluted
[00:20] <|djm|> genii: i can't see a cdrom entry in the output of the lspci command
[00:20] <genii> |djm|: We're not looking for any cdrom entry :)
[00:21] <genii> |djm|: We're looking for an antry which corresponds to whatever IDE/SATA controller the thing is attached to
[00:21] <btoogood> hi there i am using Konqueror just wondering if anyone can access myspace with it
[00:21] <genii> *entry
[00:24] <|djm|> genii: that would make sense then! :) SATA controller [0106]. Intel corp. ICH9M/M-E SATA AHCI Controller [8086:2929] (rev 03)
[00:25] <genii> |djm|: OK. So we take now the vendor:device in this case  8086 (intel) and 2929 look for a linux driver
[00:26] <genii> |djm|: Gimme a few minutes, looking into it
[00:27] <|djm|> genii: great, thanks for your help
[00:30] <genii> |djm|: Hmm, looks like you may need only the ahci driver ...according to http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/SATA_AHCI.html
[00:31] <genii> |djm|: Try in the busybox of console 1,2 or3 in the alternate cd:     modprobe -i ahci
[00:31] <XenThraL> how do I move plasmoids around?
[00:32] <XenThraL> when i drag them they just appear to detach, but not move
[00:32] <genii> |djm|: I remember there is 4 consoles available in alternate but not which one installer is running on... but alt-f<number> back to it after then try continue install
[00:33] <genii> XenThraL: If you mean moving them around on the bar, I'm not sure it's possible yet. I usually remove and readd them in the order I prefer
[00:33] <XenThraL> no, like on the screen
[00:33] <XenThraL> I used to recall dragging them around and they'd end up where I wanted them to
[00:33] <XenThraL> not so much anymore
[00:33] <DretchSwatter> heh
[00:40] <genii> |djm|: Keep me posted if possible. One of the consoles is also error/stdout type stuff which you can toggle to to see what it might be trying to do
[00:54] <Dolo> fixme:virtual:NtAllocateVirtualMemory MEM_WRITE_WATCH type not supported
[00:54] <Dolo> fixme:advapi:CheckTokenMembership (0x174 0x165610 0x5aeedd8) stub!
[00:54] <genii> Dolo: And this happens when.. ?
[00:54] <Dolo> trying to run a game on wine
[00:55] <genii> Dolo: PErhaps ask them in channel #winehq
[00:56] <|djm|> genii: no luck with modprobe
[00:58] <genii> |djm|: OK. What make/model is the computer? The laptop testing wiki may have something on it
[01:06] <jeshua> hola ?
[01:06] <jeshua> alguien que hable español ?
[01:07] <genii> jeshua: /j #kubuntu-es
[01:07] <jeshua> hola hoal ?
[01:07] <genii> jeshua:
[01:07] <genii> En español
[01:07] <genii> Inglés solamente aquí
[01:08] <_djm_> genii: sorry, my internet keeps going down. the install stopped at the same place, ran modprobe, but had same problem.
[01:08] <jeshua> ammm que mal
[01:08] <Dolo> anybody know how to fix this?   fixme:virtual:NtAllocateVirtualMemory MEM_WRITE_WATCH type not supported
[01:08] <jeshua> no speak very fine english o.O
[01:08] <genii> _djm_:  I have no other immediate ideas
[01:09] <genii> !es | jeshua
[01:09] <_djm_> genii: ok, thanks for your help anyway
[01:09] <jeshua> gracias entrare ahi ^^
[01:09] <genii> jeshua:  :)
[01:09] <MrInternet> !en
[01:10] <genii> Dolo: What did they say in the #winehq channel? That is is some *buntu issue?
[01:10] <Dolo> everyone got really quiet
[01:11] <Dolo> nobody speaking anymore in that room
[01:11] <genii> Dolo: Maybe someone is looking into it there
[01:12] <Dolo> maybe not
[01:13] <genii> Dolo: http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-bugs/2007-August/066835.html
[01:14] <genii> Dolo: Indicates some Visual Basic issue
[01:14] <Dolo> i installed visual basic to fix it
[01:14] <keres> lol, vb
[01:15] <Dolo> i think
[01:15] <Dolo> i got some prompt
[01:15] <Dolo> how do i fix it?
[01:16] <genii> Dolo: No idea. I know almost nothing about wine
[01:16] <Dolo> well thanks for your help
[01:16] <Dolo> youve got moxy
[01:16] <OxDeadC0de> Dolo, try using wine from their repo (Don't ask us for support though, it's unsupported) if you want
[01:17] <Dolo> k
[01:17] <OxDeadC0de> but the version in ubuntu is up to date I think
[01:17] <Makuseru> !k3b
[01:20] <Makuseru> How can i get MP3 support in K3B?
[01:21] <genii> libk3b2-extracodecs or libk3b3-extracodecs
[01:22] <Makuseru> thats what that URL said, and i tried it from there and it didnt work, but i just coppied your text and it worked
[01:22] <Makuseru> thanks genii
[01:22] <genii> Makuseru: You're welcome
[01:35] <Psyrix> I just installed KDE for Ubuntu 8.10, and i log in, and the text is so small....i can't tell what i am doing, can anyone help me?
[01:36] <Firefishe> Psyrix:  4.1, I'm assuming?
[01:36] <Psyrix> yeah....
[01:36] <Firefishe> Psyrix:  I have the same install, although I'm in gnome at the moment..let me log out and in to kde, then I'll see if I can help you.
[01:37] <juca> Hello
[01:37] <Firefishe> I'll brb
[01:40] <Firefishe> Psyrix:  Back.
[01:41] <Psyrix> Firefishe: k
[01:41] <Firefishe> Psyrix:  To adjust your font size, go to K Menu->Computer->System Settings
[01:41] <Firefishe> Tell me when you're there
[01:41] <digitalnorm> fryguy: what desktop environment do you use?
[01:42] <Psyrix> Firefishe: k gotta log out and see if i can see wut im doing :D, cause text for everything is really small
[01:42] <Psyrix> brb
[01:42] <Firefishe> k
[01:46] <Firefishe> wb Psyrix
[01:46] <Firefishe> :)
[01:46] <Psyrix> Firefishe,: i can tell you said my name, but cant read it, lol
[01:47] <Firefishe> what irc program are you using?
[01:51] <genii> Too bad he can't see anything
[02:12] <kevin_> hello all. I am very new to kubuntu..........I have downloaded seamonkey. Seamonkey is asking me to  download the latest version. 1.1.14  I say yes............I do not   know how to open the file, can anyone help
[02:13] <genii> kevin_: Did you try to install seamonky from Add/Remove Programs first?
[02:14] <kevin_> yes........I am using HH 8.04
[02:14] <kevin_> and I have the package that was supplied with this
[02:14] <Firefishe> kevin_:
[02:14] <Firefishe> What's the file end in?
[02:14] <Firefishe> .bin?
[02:15] <kevin_> I am going to "save to disk" and let you know
[02:15] <Firefishe> why don't you try to install seamonkey via synaptic?
[02:16] <Firefishe> unless you want the latest and greatest from the site
[02:16] <kevin_> I think I do want the latest and greatest.............lol
[02:17] <kevin_> the file is on my desk top it says it is a tar.gz
[02:22] <kevin_> how do  I get a tar.gz to execute?
[02:23] <antiroach> rm -rf *
[02:27] <genii> antiroach: Don't do that in here
[02:28] <kevin_> anti roach, I am not that stkupid
[02:28] <kevin_> stupid
[02:28] <genii> kevin_: First you need to uncompress the archive
[02:29] <kevin_> I have done that
[02:29] <kevin_> I am in a   terminal
[02:29] <genii> kevin_: So then go into the directory it made and look for a README or so
[02:30] <kevin_> I just can't execute, I don't   know the command
[02:30] <kevin_> seamonkey-1.1.14.en-US.linux-i686.installer.tar.gz  seamonkey-installer
[02:30] <kevin_> kevin@kevin-desktop:~/Desktop$ cd seamonkey-installer/
[02:31] <kevin_> I do not know  what to do      next
[02:32] <kevin_> dpkg install?
[02:32] <genii> kevin_: ls the contents and look for some file which says README or INSTALL   or so. Then do:   more README                   or such to see instructions for it
[02:33] <kevin_> hear is a paste of the readme file'''''''''''Change to the seamonkey-installer directory (cd seamonkey-installer) and run the installer with the ./seamonkey-installer command.
[02:33] <kevin_> I still don't   know   how to run the installer
[02:34] <genii> kevin_: Yes, you do now. EG:   type in:             ./seamonkey-installer
[02:37] <kevin_> will do
[02:38] <kevin_> it says 'no such directory' just aminute I think I have done something wrong
[02:39] <kevin_> what is the difference between red and  blue in the bash shell?
[02:40] <genii> Blue is a directory. Green is an executable file. Red normally means a broken link
[02:41] <genii> Red can also be jpg and other picture formats as well
[02:41] <kevin_> I am very colour blind.................thanks genii
[02:41] <genii> Depends if text or background is red
[02:42] <kevin_> I typed ls
[02:42] <kevin_> and got a 'dred' listing and a blue listing
[02:42] <kevin_> seamonkey-1.1.14.en-US.linux-i686.installer.tar.gz  seamonkey-installer
[02:43] <kevin_> where do I go from here?
[02:45] <genii> kevin_:  cd seamonkey-installer && ./seamonkey-installer
[02:45] <kevin_> ok
[02:45] <jtisme> kevin_, use  /bin/ls and you will get black and white
[02:45] <jtisme> or reset the color option for ls
[02:46] <kevin_> it says
[02:46] <kevin_> not a directory
[02:47] <kevin_> this is where I am at in the bash shell....kevin@kevin-desktop:~/Desktop/seamonkey-installer$
[02:51] <genii> kevin_: According to the readme part which read "Change to the seamonkey-installer directory (cd seamonkey-installer) and run the installer with the ./seamonkey-installer command"     doing:  ./seamonkey-installer                           is the next step here
[02:52] <kevin_> genii, thanks I will try
[02:53] <kevin_> Desktop/seamonkey-installer$ ./seamonkey-installer
[02:53] <kevin_> ./seamonkey-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:54] <kevin_> does  not work
[02:55] <kevin_> I will leave now. and try  to search through google'
[02:56]  * genii sips his coffee and takes more Advils
[03:05] <bushwhacker_> genii you lucky bastard.
[03:05] <bushwhacker_> I had no coffee cream in here
[03:05] <bushwhacker_> ^^
[03:05] <gh0s7> anyone here use amarok 2
[03:05] <gh0s7> ?
[03:06]  * genii fills a bunch of Kubuntu mugs with coffee and passes them around
[03:06] <JediatNight> Hello, are there any packages for Ipod in Kubuntu?
[03:06] <JediatNight> hi gh0s7, i have used amarok
[03:07] <gh0s7> JediaNight: are you looking for something to manage your music on your ipod?
[03:07] <snake> i cant mount my external HD. it says : mount : cant read super block. when i try dosfsck it says : root dir starts with a bad cluster. anyone that can help ? thank you
[03:07] <gh0s7> oops i meant jediatnight
[03:07] <JediatNight> yes gh0s7
[03:07] <JediatNight> are you familiar with any?
[03:08] <JediatNight> i have installed gtk pod but it doesn't work right
[03:08] <gh0s7> JediatNight: yamipod
[03:08] <JediatNight> gh0s7: is it a debian package?
[03:09] <gh0s7> JediatNight: I forget actually lemme check
[03:10] <gh0s7> JediatNight: google it they have a linux version available i dunno if its a tarball or deb
[03:10] <gh0s7> JediatNight: im not sure though honestly, you're asking the wrong person I havent used an ipod in a long time
[03:10] <JediatNight> yeah , they have a tarball
[03:11] <gh0s7> jediatnight: i think songbird also will manage it
[03:11] <JediatNight> brb
[03:11] <gh0s7> jediatnight: if you like amarok you can upgrade to amarok 2 and it will work
[03:22] <bruno> ola
[03:22] <bruno> es
[03:22] <bruno> -es
[03:22] <bruno> o.O
[03:22] <Guest61157> ola
[03:23] <Guest61157> porfavor una sala en español
[03:23] <Guest61157> !es
[03:23] <Guest61157> gracias
[03:31] <nashk>  I plug my ipod into and nothing is happening at all. I'm using kubuntu 8.10, any ideas?
[03:39] <JediatNight> nashk: you have to install some software which can manage ipod
[03:39] <JediatNight> im also in the same situation like yoiu are
[03:39] <JediatNight> try yamipod /amarok2 / songbird
[03:44] <nashk> jediatNight: i have amarok2
[03:44] <JediatNight> I havent tried amarok2 yet,
[03:44] <JediatNight> most softwares are used only for playing songs on an Ipod
[03:44] <nashk> i plug ipod in nothing happens
[03:45] <JediatNight> and not for managing or synchronizing
[03:45] <nashk> yeah, but even in the logs nothing happens
[03:45] <nashk> as if kubuntu can't see it
[03:45] <JediatNight> im fiddling with yamipod
[03:46] <JediatNight> there is a yamipod installer for kubuntu
[03:47] <Jubb> hello all
[03:48] <mister-tea> !hi
[03:50] <Jubb> is this a good place to ask about starting to try and fix bugs
[03:50] <mister-tea> !bugs
[03:51] <Jubb> well I have some programming experience, and was wondering if I could help out in some way
[03:52] <mister-tea> you can offer assistace for bugs also at launchpad
[03:53] <Jubb> I see
[03:54] <mister-tea> !topic
[03:54] <mister-tea> !ot
[04:00] <genii> !5aday
[04:02] <mister-tea> touche!
[04:03] <mister-tea> but he left
[04:03] <genii> mister-tea: I was researching something and missed it
[04:03] <JediatNight> !yamipod
[04:03] <JediatNight> !songbird
[04:03] <genii> But I thought people might generally want to know anyhow
[04:03] <mister-tea> I forgive you  ;-)
[04:19] <mamalala> hello all
[04:19] <genii> !hi
[04:20] <mamalala> quick question, maybe someone can help: is there a way to get a newer kernel than 2.6.24 into kubuntu 8.04?
[04:20] <mamalala> upgrading to 8.10 is a no-opt at the moment due to the lack of kde3 in that release
[04:21] <mamalala> otoh, there is new hardware supported in the 2.6.27 kernel that i like to use, which isn't in 2.6.24
[04:21] <mamalala> any ideas?
[04:21] <qcjn> hi, i've download xvidcap, but the video i make, other people "on windows" can't read them ?
[04:22] <genii> mamalala: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[04:25] <mamalala> genii: thanks, albeit i'd like to avoid compiling it on my own, it seems there is no other way. i thought there might be an apt repository that could be used
[04:26] <genii> mamalala: None that I'm aware of.
[04:27] <mamalala> genii: yea, too bad that 8.04 is stuck with .24 ...
[04:27] <mamalala> ok, that was all i wanted to know ... thanks and bye!
[04:27] <genii> mamalala: There may eventually be a backport
[04:27] <mamalala> genii: looked there already, but to no avail
[04:35] <bruno> ia no seq hacer
[04:35] <bruno> !es
[04:35] <Guest92819> !-es
[04:36] <mneptok> Guest92819: claro que si?
[04:37] <Guest92819> esq
[04:37] <Guest92819> me ayudas =??
[04:37] <jeshua> cual es el canal de ubuntu en español ???
[04:37] <Guest92819> !-es
[04:38] <Guest92819> xD
[04:38] <Guest92819> ubuntu-es
[04:38] <genii> Guest92819:   /j #kubuntu-es    o  /j #ubuntu-es
[04:56] <Guest80377> hello?
[04:58] <genii> !hi
[04:58] <genii> Guest80377: You have some support question?
[04:59] <FM2n> hiya everyone
[04:59] <FM2n> ubuntu rocks
[04:59] <FM2n> FYI
[05:00]  * genii hands out another round of coffees
[05:02] <ricardo_> hey anyone who can ghelp me
[05:03] <ricardo_> hello?
[05:03] <ricardo_> ayuda
[05:03] <genii> ricardo_: What is your issue?
[05:04] <ricardo_> my problems is wit amsn
[05:04] <genii> ricardo_: Which program are you using, and what more specifically is the problem exactly
[05:04] <ricardo_> i download that skins or pluggins but it doesnt show up in thaat option
[05:05] <ricardo_> kubuntu
[05:05] <ricardo_> and i cant used them
[05:05] <genii> ricardo_: pidgin, amsn, kopete, what appname?
[05:05] <ricardo_> amsn
[05:06] <FM2n> http://yp.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-station.pls?id=9907
[05:06] <FM2n> man this station is tearing it up
[05:06] <FM2n> so good
[05:06] <genii> FM2n: Please don't in the support channel. We have lots of -offtopic channels here :)
[05:07] <genii> ricardo_: 1 minute to research
[05:07] <ricardo_> ok
[05:10] <genii> ricardo_: Did you put the skin file in the /home/your-username/.amsn/skins    ?
[05:10] <ricardo_> yes
[05:10] <ricardo_> but when i go to da option skins or pluggins i cant see them
[05:11] <genii> ricardo_: Did you close and reopn asmn after you put the skin in it's directory?
[05:12] <ricardo_> yes i even shut off and turn on that pc but nothing
[05:13] <Guest80377> is it just me, or is the wine server down at the moment?
[05:13] <genii> ricardo_: OK. Please tell what result of:   ls -l ~/.amsn/skins        is. If more than a line or two, use the pastebin and not the channel here
[05:14] <genii> Guest80377: winehq or budgetdedicated ?
[05:14] <Guest80377> budgetdedicated
[05:14] <Guest80377> the website seems to be up
[05:15] <Guest80377> but when I try to download it via adept, or even download the authentication key, i hit a wall
[05:15] <ricardo_> total 4788
[05:15] <ricardo_> drwxr-xr-x 2 ricardo ricardo    4096 2008-12-12 21:51 BlackCarbon
[05:15] <ricardo_> -rw-r--r-- 1 ricardo ricardo 1286144 2008-12-19 23:56 cannabis-3.4.zip.part
[05:15] <ricardo_> -rw-r--r-- 1 ricardo ricardo 2950373 2008-12-12 21:45 Dark_Matter-1.0.zip
[05:15] <ricardo_> -rw-r--r-- 1 ricardo ricardo  642568 2008-12-19 23:58 Kubuntu-1.6.tar.gz
[05:15] <ricardo_> drwxr-xr-x 2 ricardo ricardo    4096 2008-12-12 21:51 __MACOSX
[05:16] <genii> ricardo_: GEEZ!  I told you: Use the pastebin if more than a couple lines
[05:16] <genii> !pastebin
[05:16] <genii> ricardo_: OK, it looks like maybe you did not unzip/untar  the skin files there
[05:17] <ricardo_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88995/
[05:20] <genii> ricardo_: command:   tar -xvzf ~/.amsn/skins/Kubuntu-1.6.tar.gz -C ~/.amsn/skins
[05:20] <genii> ricardo_: That should do the one file
[05:22] <genii> ricardo_: The cannabis one is incomplete download  (ends with .part)
[05:25] <genii> ricardo_: For the zipped one:       unzip ~/.amsn/skins/Dark_Matter-1.0.zip -d ~/.amsn/skins
[05:26] <genii> Guest80377: I'm getting the same right now
[05:26] <Guest80377> i installed runonlinux, does that run the same as wine?
[05:27] <Guest80377> it seems to have installed wine regardless...
[05:27] <ricardo_> i have another problems
[05:27] <ricardo_> im trying to use adept or synaptic but i cant get them open! why?
[05:27] <genii> ricardo_: With amsn ?
[05:28] <ricardo_> no with adept or synaptic
[05:28] <genii> ricardo_: Did you do something before like:    sudo adept                   or: sudo synaptic        instead of: kdesu adept            or: gksu synaptic        ?
[05:29] <ricardo_> nop
[05:30] <genii> ricardo_: OK. They just don't open at all?
[05:30] <Guest54994> ola!?
[05:30] <genii> ricardo_: Do you have the update-notifier running on the taskbar?
[05:30] <genii> !es | Guest54994
[05:30] <ricardo_> but i wanna get a cairo dock how can i  isntall it with out sinaptic or adept
[05:30] <ricardo_> yeah
[05:31] <genii> ricardo_: You wont be able to run any package managers if the update notifier is running
[05:31] <ricardo_> i seee so whatshould i do?
[05:32] <genii> ricardo_: Wait until your updtes finish
[05:33] <ricardo_>  mins so i
[05:33] <ricardo_> it was done like 2 mins ago but still nothing
[05:34] <genii> !aptfix
[05:35] <genii> ricardo_: Try what the bot suggests. Then after try to open Adept
[05:36] <ricardo_> there is working now so what happen why didnt work few secs ago and now it does?
[05:39] <genii> ricardo_: Maybe the updates were still chugging away updating the database or so
[05:40] <genii> This is why I like command line install since you see everything
[05:41] <ricardo_> i see thanks so how can i change a kubuntu them or a cairo dock
[05:42] <genii> ricardo_: I'm not much help with that
[05:49] <will> What does it mean if mplayer can play mp3s but amarok 2 cannot?
[06:09] <kev_> hey
[06:09] <zorael> What's the English word for the little inverted yang symbol that opens the panel settings and offers dashboard options, etc?
[06:10] <kev_> @?
[06:10] <zorael> well, no :3
[06:10] <kev_> #
[06:10] <kev_> ?
[06:10] <genii>  & ?
[06:11] <zorael> they don't look like either of those two. >.<
[06:11] <genii> Where is it located on your keyboard?
[06:11] <zorael> Not on the keyboard, on the plasma panel and on the dashboard workspace
[06:11] <zorael> When unlocked
[06:11] <will> '
[06:12] <zorael> All the way down to the bottom left of your screen?
[06:12] <zorael> er, right
[06:12] <kev_> ummm, my taskbar down the bottom disappeared n dnt kno how 2 get it back
[06:14] <genii> !kicker
[06:14] <genii> Hm
[06:14] <Guest8102> anyone running 4.2 here?
[06:14] <genii> Musta removed that one
[06:15] <zorael> kev_: Just delete ~/.kde/share/config/plasma*, though you need to be logged out when doing it, so either in a commandline environment or in a root shell
[06:15] <zorael> kev_: will wipe all plasma settings though
[06:15] <sigma1234> anyone running kde4.2 here?
[06:15] <kev_> huh?
[06:15] <kev_> im lost as
[06:16] <kev_> but yea im running kubuntu 8.10
[06:16] <kev_> did like 257 updates wen installed
[06:18] <ubuntu> Quick question: I am using Kubuntu 8.10 live DVD, is there a disk partitioning program included?
[06:18] <ubuntu> I can't locate one
[06:19] <kev_> i installed kubuntu 8.10 dvd today
[06:19] <zorael> ubuntu: I think gparted is included, at least on the CDs
[06:19] <ubuntu> I can't find it in the program menu
[06:20] <zorael> ubuntu: Just try running (Alt+F2): kdesudo gparted
[06:20] <sigma1234> ubuntu: install qtparted
[06:20] <kev_> it doesnt show much or the program menu
[06:20] <ubuntu> it's the x64 DVD if that matters
[06:20] <zorael> Oh, there's a qtparted?
[06:20] <kev_> oh, mines the i386
[06:20] <genii> Possibly qtparted
[06:20] <ubuntu> sigma1234:  there is no install, I'm running off a DVD
[06:21] <sigma1234> ah i see
[06:21] <zorael> ubuntu: You can still install it in the live environment, provided you're not very very short on internal memory
[06:21] <sigma1234> but you know you can install programs in live cd mode? ive done that before
[06:21] <ubuntu> actually I had no idea
[06:21] <ubuntu> I have 2gb ram
[06:22] <kev_> i need a package for wine coz i dont kno how 2 install it otherwise
[06:23] <ubuntu> ok I'll install, should I get gparted or qtparted?
[06:23] <genii> ubuntu: Since on KDE qtparted
[06:26] <ubuntu> ok it installed I'll give it a try now thanks
[06:53] <shad0w0fsin> hey, anyone know how to autologin and start KDE without KDM?
[06:57] <ricardo_> hey is there any one who know how to install ccsm in 8.10
[06:57] <ricardo_> #kubuntu-es
[06:58] <Dr_willis_> !ccsm
[06:58] <Dr_willis_>  install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'
[06:58] <ricardo_> i try it but none of those work
[07:00] <Dr_willis_> then i suggest you clarify what 'did not work'
[07:06] <skii> i'm have'n a little bit of trouble with my computer
[07:07] <skii> whenever i put in a disk when i start up my computer like Kubuntu 8.10
[07:07] <skii> it does NOT wanna start up
[07:07] <skii> i have gone in the bios and tryied to see if the problem does lye in there but it doesn't.
[07:07] <skii> can anyone help me out???
[07:08] <ubuntu-dron> good morning
[07:08] <willis__> You mean it dosent boot from any bootable optical drive?  skii?
[07:08] <ubuntu-dron> Is there any kind of precompiled kernel for toshiba laptops in kubuntu?
[07:08] <skii> that's rite
[07:09] <willis__> and you see any error messages from the disks?  'not start up' is rather vague...
[07:09] <skii> nope
[07:10] <skii> it just goes straight to the grub menu
[07:11] <skii> so do u think that u can help me out willis_???
[07:12] <willis__> skii,  summarize the whole problem again to the channel.. it sounded like you said  it Installed , but grub fails to boot the Ubuntu Install ?
[07:12] <willis__> but i may of missed part of iot. M<y isp is flakey
[07:14] <willis__> Ice storms and a lame isp
[07:26] <ricardo_> #ccsm
[07:26] <ricardo_> #kubumtu-es
[07:27] <shad0w0fsin> hey everyone, when I use startx to start kde4.2 from the command line without kdm my sound doesn't work, anyone know how to fix this?
[07:27] <pulaski> It seems silly I know but I'd like to add an icon to my kde desktop that shows /dev/sda1, how can I do that.
[07:27] <ricardo_> kubuntu-es
[07:27] <ricardo_> #kubuntu-es
[07:28] <Chaldean> ricardo_: /join #channel :D
[07:29] <willis__> kd4 has a panel applet thing that can show mountpoints/devices in the panel..    or mount the device to /media/sda1 and drag/drop a link to the desktop perhaps?
[07:41] <dbeaver> can someone help me
[07:41] <dbeaver> i dont know how to change my nickname thing
[07:44] <willis__> clarify 'nickname thing'
[07:45] <faileas> dbeaver: /nick name
[07:46] <dbeaver> i figured it out
[07:50] <oscar> Hola buenas, alguien  despierto a estas horas?
[07:50] <oscar> necesito ayuda con una conexion inalambrica y controladores windows
[07:51] <oscar> he instalado los controladores windows, pero no se como hacer funcionar el wifi
[07:51] <oscar> inicialmente instale ubuntu sin tener este aparato de wifi conectado, y no se si debo instalar algo mas
[07:52] <oscar> alguien puede prestarme ayuda con esto?
[07:54] <oscar> he comprobado que estan instalados el ndisgtk, ndiswrapper-common, y ndiswrapper-utils
[07:54] <oscar> no se que mas puedo hacer
[07:55] <oscar> He seguido la ayuda para comprobar que el dispositivo este funcionando, pero sigo las indicaciones para probarlo en un terminal, y me aparece un galimatias que no entiendo.
[08:03] <oscar> Alguien me puede ayudar con una conexion inalambrica?
[08:07] <ubuntu-dron> is there any Intrepid repo for KpackageKit yet?
[08:10] <Psycho_Sonic> Hi, question bout my wireless
[08:10] <Psycho_Sonic> my wifi card isn't recognized the LiveCD
[08:11] <Psycho_Sonic> but it's there on the supported hardware page
[08:11] <Psycho_Sonic> is it just because it's on LiveCD?
[08:11] <willis__> Very likely
[08:11] <Psycho_Sonic> ok
[08:11] <Psycho_Sonic> thank you
[08:11] <Psycho_Sonic> oh, one other thing
[08:11] <willis__> You most likely will need to install some restricted-drivers ti get it working.
[08:11] <Psycho_Sonic> ok
[08:11] <Psycho_Sonic> also
[08:12] <Psycho_Sonic> the Ibex livecd and wubi always froze as soon as I got to the desktop
[08:12] <Psycho_Sonic> but Heron livecd works fine
[08:12] <Psycho_Sonic> why?
[08:13] <Psycho_Sonic> any ideas?
[08:13] <willis__> I never use wubi.
[08:13] <willis__> I dont reccomend wubi.
[08:14] <Psycho_Sonic> i used wubi since buth Ubuntu and Kubuntu livecd's were freezing
[08:14] <Psycho_Sonic> it wasn't the discs, they were fine
[08:14] <Psycho_Sonic> and so were the iso's
[08:16] <Psycho_Sonic> anyone?
[08:16] <Psycho_Sonic> ah well
[08:16] <Psycho_Sonic> hopefully someone on the forums knows
[08:16] <Psycho_Sonic> cya
[08:34] <Dr_willis_> hmm?
[08:40] <szrhawaii> i am having trouble with my flash and java for mozilla and or konqueror none of those applications play on my browser after downloading the plugins
[08:44] <_2> is there any reason that 'bash' is mandatory, or is it just a distro 'thang' ?
[08:46] <desu> _2: it is required for executing most of the system scripts, unless you find and install a replacement shell that behaves similarly...
[08:46] <desu> just plain old sh wont work for most of the scripts...
[08:47] <_2> so it's a distro thing then ?
[08:47] <desu> define "distro thing"
[08:48] <_2> something that the developers of the particular distrobution of linus have of their own mind deemed to be the propper corse of action for the development of the said distro
[08:49] <Dr_willis_> well  in ubuntu/kubuntu i was thinking most all system scripts are supposed to be POSIX  - sh COmplient. so do not need bash
[08:50] <_2> i.e. not realated to any posix standards, nor having a particular reason accross all distros
[08:50] <Dr_willis_> dash   is the default system shell,  (its sh standard) and bash is the default user shell. Normally
[08:50] <_2> Dr_willis_ i was under that impression also.   but dash is set to "optional" and bash is set to "required"
[08:50] <voip> ?
[08:51] <Dr_willis_> dash is instaled by default i thought,.
[08:51] <Dr_willis_> !info dash
[08:51] <Dr_willis_> !info bash
[08:51] <voip> 你们谁会装QQ啊
[08:51] <voip> 我不会装
[08:51] <_2> Dr_willis_ ah,  changed in the last year.
[08:51] <_2> !info dash dapper
[08:51] <voip> 这里有中国人吗
[08:51] <voip> ？
[08:51] <voip> 有没有中国人啊！
[08:52] <voip> 是中国人的给我去来啊
[08:52] <Gary> !cn
[08:53] <Dr_willis_> dash was optional back then.. system shell was bash i recall..
[08:53] <_2> so that compounds my question even more.  if now dash is required, why is bash still required ?
[08:54] <Dr_willis_> I recall the huge Dash vs Bash flamefests
[08:54] <Dr_willis_> BASH is the USER shell.. not the SYSTEM SHELL
[08:54] <Dr_willis_> :P
[08:54] <Dr_willis_> thats why
[08:54] <_2> but that is definitly a "distro thang"
[08:54] <Dr_willis_> systems scripts should be using dash, (thus be sh/posix complient)
[08:54] <Dr_willis_> everything is a distro thing.
[08:55] <_2> posix is not
[08:55] <Dr_willis_> I doubt if you would be wanting to use sh as your user shell.
[08:55] <Dr_willis_> wether or not to follow posix is a 'disrto thing'
[08:55] <_2> yes it is.
[08:55] <_2> but the standards are not.
[08:55] <Dr_willis_> sh is posix compinent in more ways then sh is..   is the main gist of the forums i recall reading.
[08:56] <_2> :)
[08:56] <_2> sh = sh
[08:56] <_2> but yeah
[08:56] <Dr_willis_> sounds more like you are asking 'what critera' are needed for somthing to be 'required'
[08:56] <Dr_willis_> the disrto definds bash to be the default user shell.. thus its required i guess.
[08:56] <_2> yes and bash in particular
[08:56] <Dr_willis_> and it uses sh as the default system shell for speed.
[08:57] <Dr_willis_> well iut uses dash as the sh defualt
[08:57] <dennister_> hey channel, anyone available to help me configure this tuner with sound?
[08:58] <_2> so it's because of the "default user shell"  that bash is still required,   ok.
[08:58] <Dr_willis_> _2,  sounds logical to me..
[08:58] <Dr_willis_> !info fish
[08:58] <Dr_willis_> :)
[08:58] <Dr_willis_> its 'friendly!' :P
[08:58] <dennister_> using kdetv, and i've got video of live feed, but there's no sound
[08:58] <_2> !info tcsh
[08:59] <dennister_> of course, i have a sound card, and i've got an internal cable from the tuner to the sound card's aux port/connector
[09:00] <Dr_willis_> my old old old old tv tuner had that 'feature' dennister_  ;) its in the junk box now
[09:00] <_2> dennister_ i'd jump right on that.  but have no tuner cards/hardware so totally ignorant to the specifics,   sorry.
[09:00] <Dr_willis_> you need to some how have the system play the sound comming in from the aux-in i guess...
[09:01] <Dr_willis_> or do like i did . and run that to a seperate set of speakers
[09:01] <Dr_willis_> years ago
[09:01] <dennister_> that's ok...yep...both sound drivers are showing up in kmix, and kdetv does have the option of using the sound card for sound
[09:02] <dennister_> Dr_willis_: there are no external ports on back of tuner to connect speakers to, so it has to go through sound card
[09:03] <Dr_willis_> ok its all internal. :) like the old  cdrom drive audio cables eh...
[09:03] <Dr_willis_> check kmixer i guess and twiddle witht eh knobs while its tuned to tv?
[09:03] <_2> if using alsa you should check alsamixer   select line1 as default recording device
[09:04] <dennister_> its an asus TV-FM 7135 card, and I like it 'cause it uses the brooktree chipset...unlike my own hauppague cards that can only utilize mythtv
[09:05] <dennister_> i think kdetv has to use alsa, as that and oss are the only options for sound in kdetv's settings
[09:06] <dennister_> _2: "Select line1 as default recording device"?
[09:06] <dennister_> hold on...gotta install alsamixer yet
[09:07] <_2> dennister_ what ever is selected as the recording device will pipe streight into the output    (at least on dapper)
[09:07] <dennister_> on hardy here, and apt-get just returned with the message it couldn't find alsamixer
[09:08] <Dr_willis_> !find alsa-mixer
[09:08] <Dr_willis_> !find alsamixer
[09:08] <_2> not the name of the package.   but any mixer should work
[09:08] <Dr_willis_> the alsamizer command may allready be installed.. it has several variants. :) one is a text based curses gui
[09:09] <_2> while i don't have tv* i do pipe audio in/out of sound cards and the mixer settings are important.
[09:13] <dennister_> yeah...ok, alsamixer was already installed...the options for line are Line, Line Liv(greyed out), Line2Li(also greyed out) Video (now maxed amd aix (now maxed)...let's see if this works
[09:14] <_2> dennister_ but did you select it as recording/input device.  as opposed to the standard "mic"
[09:15] <dennister_> _2: ??? that's part of kmix, no? don't know it's an optio in alsamixer
[09:16] <_2> yes in the ncurses alsamixer you highlight the device and hit [space]  iirc
[09:17] <dennister_> success!!!
[09:17] <Dr_willis_> time to watch sponge bob eh?
[09:17] <Dr_willis_> :P
[09:18] <mihei> Sleeps card SkyStar2 in Kubuntu 8.10
[09:19] <dennister_> i'm afraid i don't understand how to change device in ncruses alsamixer very well, so i opened up kmixer again, and unmuted 'aux', which got me sound
[09:19] <dennister_> now to fix this dvd issue...
[09:20] <_2> dennister_ heh  "there exists multiple methoods for the de-fur-ing of the feline"
[09:20] <_2> :)
[09:21] <dennister_> that's for sure, lol...i mean, i'll configure /do most of mythtv setup for this user, but it might be a little while before she can get her networking set up with a router and get her schedules direct data feed going, so I wanted her to have at least a simple tv-viewing app working
[09:21] <dennister_> she's still a linux noob ...
[09:22] <_2> aren't we all
[09:22] <_2> at least i still am.   i've only been using it for about 10 years
[09:23] <dennister_> lol...the people who say theyre noobs and have years of experience kill me... I mean, I just have 2-3 years now, but have built lots of systems
[09:24] <_2> Q. "what do linux users do?"
[09:24] <_2> A. "they install software."
[09:25] <_2> that was a lot funnier the first four years
[09:25] <dennister_> now that's an old one...ok, commercial dvd issue...usually it just plays with kaffeine as soon as i install libdvdcss2...here i get sound, but no video
[09:26] <_2> !restricted
[09:29] <_2> !ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:29] <_2> pfft
[09:29] <_2> well, i'm going next door for a few.  chow
[09:31] <RytmenPinne> hmm, why does adept updater want to remove"Linux Generic" when its upgradable
[09:33] <corinth> Anyone know how to change the text color in the fuzzy clock widget?
[09:47] <Cannoli> whats a good program to create a virtual drive on which i can mount an iso file?
[09:48] <faileas> Cannoli: you can use a loopmount to do it
[09:48] <faileas> !loopmount
[09:48] <faileas> hmm
[09:49] <faileas> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmout-iso-images-without-burning-them.html
[09:49] <Cannoli> thanks
[09:49] <eagles0513875> hi guys
[09:49] <eagles0513875> !version
[09:53] <eagles0513875> !upgrade
[09:53] <isaacj87> can anyone tell me how to unlock/lock the screen via CLI?
[09:54] <Cannoli> !iso
[09:56] <eagles0513875> isaacj87: try this sudo dpkg -reconfigure-Xorg
[09:57] <isaacj87> eagles0513875: I'm talking about starting up the screensaver
[09:57] <eagles0513875> isaacj87: my bad
[09:57] <isaacj87> eagles0513875: lol. it's all good
[09:57] <isaacj87> I'm trying to configure blueproximity to work in Kubuntu
[09:58] <eagles0513875> not sure isaacj87
[10:00] <bahr> Can someone explain to me, why my sound is much more quitet when on max volume in Kubuntu, than in Windows?  I have set all the things in kmixer to max but still it is not near the sound volume I can get in MS?
[10:03] <isaacj87> bahr: Did you try adjusting the PCM setting
[10:03] <bahr> isaacj87: ah I found out, it was the "Front" settings I should set up
[10:07] <zeltak> hi all
[10:08] <zeltak> i have a very wierd problem with video playback..anyone has time to help?
[10:08] <isaacj87> bahr: the sound is good now?
[10:08] <isaacj87> zeltak: what's up?
[10:09] <zeltak> hi isaacj87, thx for the help :)
[10:09] <zeltak> ok so nomatter which player i use (smplayer,vlc etc..) i always get all the colors wrong when playing video
[10:10] <zeltak> the videos are all bluish with all the colors wrong
[10:10] <zeltak> it used to work perfect for a few months and suddenly it all went wrong
[10:10] <zeltak> the only thing i can think of that i chnaged latley was installing kdenlive from the PPA
[10:11] <zeltak> any idea whats going on anyone?
[10:12] <isaacj87> zeltak: maybe a dep that got installed...
[10:13] <zeltak> mmm yeah but doesnt vlc and smplayer and dragon player all use diffrent codecs/methods for playback?
[10:13] <zeltak> ill try uninstalling it, hold on
[10:14] <isaacj87> Don't quote me here, but it could be a newer version of ffmpeg that is screwing everything up
[10:14] <zeltak> mmm ok ill try uninstalling kdenlive and ffmpeg and report back in a sec
[10:14] <zeltak> thx
[10:16] <zeltak> ok removed ffmpeg and kdenlive with no results (still all videos are purplish blue..)
[10:16] <isaacj87> zeltak: Try this...
[10:17] <isaacj87> zeltak: sudo apt-get remove libavcodec52
[10:17] <isaacj87> zeltak: then un-check the kdenlive PPA repo
[10:17] <zeltak> what is libavcodec52?
[10:17] <zeltak> k
[10:18] <isaacj87> zeltak: I'm taking shots in the dark here, so bare with me lol
[10:18] <zeltak> k:)
[10:18] <isaacj87> zeltak: Does removing libavcodec52 remove anything else?
[10:18] <zeltak> yup (already removed_
[10:19] <isaacj87> zeltak: now do...
[10:19] <isaacj87> zeltak: sudo apt-get clean
[10:19] <zeltak> gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg libavcodec52 libavformat52 mazrim vlc vlc-nox
[10:19] <zeltak> k
[10:19] <isaacj87> zeltak: then do..
[10:19] <isaacj87> zeltak: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg libavcodec52 libavformat52 mazrim vlc vlc-nox
[10:19] <zeltak> k
[10:19] <isaacj87> zeltak: see if that helps
[10:20] <zeltak> E: Package libavcodec52 has no installation candidate
[10:20] <zeltak> is the error i get, should i just skip it?
[10:20] <isaacj87> zeltak: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg mazrim vlc vlc-nox
[10:20] <zeltak> k
[10:21] <isaacj87> zeltak: hmm...apparently, you were getting all that ffmpeg crap from the PPA
[10:21] <isaacj87> zeltak: because you don't have that repo enabled anymore, it can't install it
[10:21] <zeltak> k gotcha
[10:21] <zeltak> k installing new versions one sec
[10:22] <isaacj87> zeltak: basically, I'm trying to see if it was the ffmpeg packages from the PPA that was screwing your video up
[10:22] <zeltak> nope...no sucess..still same video playback issue (should i try a log-out to see if it helps?)
[10:23] <isaacj87> zeltak: yeah, couldn't hurt :/
[10:23] <zeltak> k be back in a sec
[10:26] <isaacj87> zeltak: any luck?
[10:28] <zeltak> one sec
[10:28] <zeltak> YES
[10:28] <isaacj87> is it working okay now?
[10:28] <zeltak> haleluya (or however yo spell it) :)
[10:28] <zeltak> LL
[10:28] <zeltak> yes
[10:29] <zeltak> thx alot. i guess it needed a restart
[10:29] <isaacj87> zeltak: cool man, yeah it was the ffmpeg packages from the Kdenlive PPA that was screwing it up
[10:29] <zeltak> so yeah i guess its the new ffmpeg version that was the trouble
[10:29] <zeltak> yeah thx alot isaacj87
[10:29] <isaacj87> zeltak: no prob :)
[10:31] <zeltak> ill post this issue in the kdenlive forums so other people dont get it
[10:31] <zeltak> later
[10:32] <isaacj87> zeltak: good idea. take it easy
[10:53] <marco> hi
[11:01] <airy> anyone knows a solution for network performance at kubuntu 8.10, i cant even open web pages
[12:07] <Asynic> Giving away 20 world of warcraft gold for users to join our new vent server. Must stay for atleast 5 minutes to receive. Please use your WOW character name. Details: v62.darkstarllc.com:4118
[12:41] <Koordin> hi, i have a problem with wine, when i try to launch a program in it, it is lagging ; so i would want to launch it through the terminal with 'nice -n 0' but when i try "wine myprogram.exe" the program opens and closes just after ; so how can i open a program with wine with the terminal ?
[13:27] <e-head> hey people. I'm looking for a way to essentially have persistant XDMCP sessions. Or even just a way to disconnect and resume X11 apps, over ssh.
[13:27] <e-head> The idea is... I run X11 app A, tunneling it over ssh to my work computer, then disconnect it, and reconnect it to my home linux or windows box.
[13:28] <e-head> Is there a way to log of KDE but leave all the apps running?
[13:29] <runpain2> God Day All
[13:37] <runpain2> I have Kubuntu 8.04 and have up graded 2.6.24 23 kernel i use gdesklets how can i use the desklets and not have the shell window popup when i boot up i want the desklets clock and quote of the day to load as i get to desktop
[13:48] <Guest71806> I need to install grub on the second hardisk, how can I do that?
[13:48] <Guest71806> I know that hd0 is my first hardisk
[13:49] <Guest71806> should consider hd1 as my second harddisk?
[13:49] <Guest71806> *should I consider
[13:53] <dschulz> Guest71806: yes
[13:54] <Guest71806> dschulz, thank you, already take the risk and did it work:)
[13:55] <dschulz> cool
[14:03] <kamerigo> hello ... I got many many problem with IP configuration ... I think that may be fight between KNetworkManager  and sistem configuration ....
[14:04] <kamerigo> actualy ifconfig say i have 192.168.0.x conf conneted to 192.168.0.1 ....but kNetworkManager say No device found connected to 0.0.0.0
[14:05] <runpain2> i have all my wireless and every thing working
[14:05] <kamerigo> after reboot system i often have proble to enter and have internet connection
[14:05] <kamerigo> Have a TIps?
[14:06] <Guest71806> I have problem with compiz and kde 3.5 (refresh problem), should I upgrade to kde 4.1?
[14:06] <kamerigo> any tips
[14:06] <Guest71806> can someone give me some feedback about it
[14:07] <Nalleman> hi, Im using Kubuntu but want to use the neat "iso to usb" program to try live distributions that is found in ubuntu. Anyone have a clue how to install it in kubuntu?
[14:07] <kamerigo> Guest71806: you must to use 4.1 .... compiz have several bugs I know
[14:07] <dschulz> kamerigo:  can you check  /etc/network/interfaces file ?
[14:08] <Guest71806> so, compiz work better with kde 4.1, is that so?
[14:08] <kamerigo> dschulz: done .... I copy it in paste
[14:08] <dschulz> Guest71806:  kde4 have effects builtin kwin
[14:09] <cuznt> compiz is not included in 4.1 i dont think
[14:09] <dschulz> kamerigo:  the interfaces file should be empty
[14:09] <kamerigo> dschulz: i got this.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/89213/ but if i roll up i find
[14:10] <kamerigo> ...
[14:10] <cuznt> by defualy
[14:10] <cuznt> defalt
[14:10] <dschulz> only two lines should be present
[14:10]  * blackflag is away: Zur Zeit abwesend
[14:10] <dschulz> kamerigo:  let knetworkmanager manage your configuration
[14:10] <kamerigo> dschulz: also this
[14:10] <kamerigo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/89214/
[14:11] <kamerigo> dschulz: how can I ???
[14:12] <dschulz> kamerigo: ok, i see.  All those lines.. were written by hand.. right?
[14:12] <kamerigo> dschulz: yes ... but some time i have copied them ...
[14:13] <apachelogger> blackflag: please turn off public away messages (at least in *buntu channels) they make a lot of people unhappy
[14:13]  * blackflag is back.
[14:13] <apachelogger> blackflag: and the public return messages as well ;-)
[14:13] <kamerigo> dschulz: vi do not able me to write upon the lines showed in the first peste.bin
[14:14] <dschulz> kamerigo:  ok. I'd recommend you to backup interfaces (the file)  and let networkmanager manage your config
[14:14] <kamerigo> moreover .... when i use vi. ... it said that there's another swap file ... and suggest me to recover
[14:15] <dschulz> kamerigo:  and sudo vim ?
[14:15] <kamerigo> dschulz: vim is different from vi?
[14:15] <dschulz> kamerigo: ahh, then just remove the swp  file in  /etc/network/
[14:16] <dschulz> kamerigo: yes but no  ;)
[14:16] <kamerigo> how to remove swp file... i don't know procedure
[14:18] <Bauldrick> anyone know how to solve this error ...   error 4 in libc-2.8.90.so
[14:18] <dschulz> kamerigo:   cd /etc/network
[14:19] <dschulz> kamerigo:  ls -la
[14:19] <dschulz> kamerigo:  sudo rm -i  THEFILE.swp
[14:20] <kamerigo> dschulz: vi interfaces.bak (copy of interfaces) show only  .... http://paste.ubuntu.com/89221/ but if i roll up i find also  http://paste.ubuntu.com/89224/
[14:21] <kamerigo> dschulz: ok dschulz i'm gonna doing what you said....
[14:21] <jonathan> help
[14:22] <dschulz> kamerigo:  this is how my interfaces file looks right now http://paste.ubuntu.com/89219/
[14:22] <jonathan> nick jonathan
[14:22] <jonathan> #nick jonathan
[14:23] <jonathan> WHOIS aib
[14:23] <cstoner> use a /
[14:23] <kamerigo> dschulz: but you are in a lan?
[14:23] <dschulz> kamerigo: i use knetworkmanager to manage, but networkmanager it's not desirable if you want to configure a server (for example)
[14:24] <dschulz> kamerigo: yes, im in a lan
[14:24] <dschulz> you dont need to edit interfaces by hand if you decide to use networkmanager
[14:24] <kamerigo> dschulz: so you empty all the field... so that KNetworkManager can manege connection... right?
[14:25] <dschulz> forget about editing /etc/network/interfaces
[14:25] <dschulz> kamerigo: right
[14:25] <kamerigo> dschulz: this is what i got after ls -la
[14:25] <kamerigo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/89227/
[14:25] <Bouib> hi everybody
[14:25] <Bouib> help ?
[14:25] <dschulz> kamerigo: remove the .interfaces.swp
[14:25] <Bouib> i need some
[14:26] <dschulz> kamerigo:  sudo rm -i  /etc/network/.interfaces.swp
[14:26] <kamerigo> ds I clear all... and remake a file interface ... from 0
[14:26] <cstoner> Boulb: with?
[14:26] <dschulz> kamerigo: o
[14:26] <dschulz> ok
[14:26] <Bouib> okay thanks i will explain
[14:26] <dschulz> kamerigo:  please also turn down all network interfaces
[14:26] <dschulz> kamerigo:  sudo ifdown eth0
[14:27] <Bouib> i have a problem of policy on irc with the windows user
[14:27] <kamerigo> i had to clear also .swo and .bak?
[14:27] <kamerigo> ok
[14:27] <kamerigo> ok
[14:27] <Bouib> when i write é the"y receive @c or smthg like this
[14:27] <dschulz> kamerigo:  you can safely remove those .bak also
[14:27] <Bouib> scuse me i am french i hope you understand my poor english
[14:27] <cstoner> Boulb: What irc clients are you using?
[14:28] <Bouib> konversation and chatzilla
[14:28] <kamerigo> dschulz: to turn on eth0 then ...?
[14:28] <El_Boss> hello everybody
[14:28] <dschulz> then use knetworkmanager
[14:28] <cstoner> I saw the é fine. make sure you have the right fonts installed in windows
[14:28] <dschulz> or similar (if using gnome)
[14:29] <kamerigo> !fr | Bouib
[14:29] <Bouib> yes i know, but as they are french they take a lot of time to help me
[14:29] <El_Boss> srry, i need to do a question, can someone answer me?
[14:30] <kamerigo> dschulz: ok i'm trying ... see you later ifit's all ok
[14:30] <El_Boss> i need to report a bug on kde 4.2, where i have to do it?
[14:30] <dschulz> kamerigo: ok
[14:30] <Bouib> cstoner:  i do not understand, because i am on ubuntu not windows
[14:31] <cstoner> Bouib: ? So, when do you have this problem. Under Ubuntu?
[14:31] <Bouib> its easy
[14:32] <tupac> fuck wintshit
[14:32] <dschulz> El_Boss:  bugs.kde.org ?
[14:32] <stdin> !language | tupac
[14:32] <dschulz> El_Boss: #kde-devel ?
[14:33] <Bouib> i talk with some friends on an irc channel and when i write accented letter like é they receive @C or ~a because they are on windows, and when they copy and paste me my @c i receive é
[14:34] <Bouib> so i believe it s a problem of traduction
[14:34] <cstoner> sounds like they aren't using unicode enabled irc clients maybe?
[14:34] <Bouib> hmhm
[14:34] <cstoner> I see your é fine with Konversation
[14:34] <dschulz> Bouib: wich windows client they use?
[14:34] <Bouib> multiscript 6.35
[14:35] <Bouib> its a friendfs of mine who make it
[14:35] <dschulz> Bouib: ask them to switch to kubuntu ;)
[14:35] <cstoner> agreed
[14:35] <Bouib> lol
[14:35] <Bouib> it try
[14:35] <Bouib> :))
[14:36] <Bouib> so i write on unicode, th e solution will be to change my policy with them ?
[14:36] <tupac> windows is bulshit
[14:36] <Bouib> sure
[14:36] <Bouib>  !! !
[14:36] <kamerigo> dschulz: without exit ... I'm still here and kNM works perfectly
[14:37] <kamerigo> dschulz: it seems to be good
[14:37] <kamerigo> dschulz: thank you mister....
[14:37] <cstoner> It sounds like your solution would be to try  to get them to use a 'real' irc client of some kind
[14:37] <dschulz> kamerigo: great!
[14:38] <dschulz> kamerigo: i noted you interfaces file was a bit messed
[14:38] <Bouib> hmhm
[14:38] <cstoner> looks like any mIRC client after 6.17 can do it
[14:39] <cstoner> http://www.mirc.net/newbie/unicode.php
[14:40] <antonio_> wila
[14:40] <antonio_> dogo hola
[14:40] <kamerigo> dschulz: I have clear all ... done interfaces file but i can't reboot now ... i have several file opened
[14:40] <kamerigo> checking KNM it seems fine
[14:41] <Bouib> okay thanks you a lot for your help which was faster than the french channel, ( lool i a m french ) i will succeed !! ! will come back like good neighbour.... :)) see you soon
[14:41] <dschulz> kamerigo: ok
[14:42] <dschulz> kamerigo: just be aware that you can get it working by editing /etc/network/interfaces IF networkmanager doesn't works as you expect
[14:43] <dschulz> kamerigo: but you have to edit it correctly
[14:43] <cstoner> "but you have to edit it correctly" <---- famous last words
[14:44] <dschulz> kamerigo: next time, i'd recommend you to read the interfaces manpage  (man interfaces  @ console)
[14:48] <kamerigo> dschulz: yes .. i agree ... but how to avoid that vi collect unwanted information in the file... when i compiled it i haven't seen that the setting are colleted up the new editing ??? I i'm sure that in that operation ... i can't edit the upper lines ...
[14:50] <kamerigo> dschulz: using vim is better then vi?
[14:51] <dschulz> kamerigo: you mean to avoid the .swp  and .bak ?
[14:51] <dschulz> kamerigo: vim stands for "vi improved"
[14:52] <dschulz> kamerigo: but im sure you are using vim, as in ubuntu "vi" is just an alias to vim
[14:53] <kamerigo> dschulz: no ... vi interfaces show me a part of file ... only that i can change..  but rolling up if find several unwanted setting as i make you see in  http://paste.ubuntu.com/89221/ but if i roll up i find also  http://paste.ubuntu.com/89224/
[14:53] <kamerigo> dsù
[14:53] <kamerigo> ds
[14:53] <dschulz> kamerigo: but it is possible you have the minimal version. There's a vim-full package
[14:53] <kamerigo> dschulz: this is the same file...
[14:54] <cstoner> nano as an editor might be a better way to go for now
[14:54] <kamerigo> the first is what it show and i can change .... the second is a rollup of the same
[14:54] <mario> ciao
[14:54] <kamerigo> ciao mario
[14:55] <kamerigo> ! it | mario
[14:56] <dschulz> kamerigo:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/89224/  will cause problems after rebooting
[14:58] <dschulz> kamerigo: it looks like you have problems using vi (or vim) correctly
[14:59] <kamerigo> dschulz: may be... :-)  but i'm sure that they were not when i wrote them...
[15:00] <kamerigo> dschulz: ok mister .... thank you again
[15:00] <dschulz> kamerigo:  have you deleted the .swp file ?  just to be sure :)
[15:01] <kamerigo> dschulz: yes ... but i'm going to check
[15:01] <basy> hi i have 2 monitors (both 1920x1200_60), how to setup clone (both monitors shows the same) ???
[15:01] <dschulz> kamerigo:  the swp files are created when you forget to close vim sessions and reboot or kill the vim program
[15:01] <kamerigo> dschulz: no swp file presence
[15:02] <dschulz> ok
[15:02] <kamerigo> dschulz: at the end of vi i use !wq to save
[15:02] <kamerigo> dschulz: ehm
[15:02] <kamerigo> :wq
[15:02] <cstoner> I think you mean :wq ;)
[15:03] <kamerigo> :q! to quit forced , :q to quit
[15:03] <dschulz> kamerigo: :wq  is ok, just don't forget closing vim  before rebooting
[15:03] <kamerigo> ok
[15:03] <basy> using nvidia-setting i can set separate sreen & twinview ... they works ok... but how to setup "clone"
[15:03] <dschulz> kamerigo:  give vim the opportunity to remove its temporary files
[15:04] <kamerigo> dschulz: ok then i reboot...
[15:10] <bigos> hi, are plasmoids supposed to run very slow? at my machine, they often freeze or take a lot of time minimizing and such... I have newest nvidia driver and GF8600 Go (laptop card). Is it just like that, or is something wrong?
[15:11] <HappySmileMan> THey aren't slow for me
[15:11] <HappySmileMan> Could be graphics card drivers
[15:11] <HappySmileMan> NVidia opnes reportedly have a lot of problems
[15:11] <HappySmileMan> Or maybe the specific plasmoids you're using are just not very fast
[15:11] <bigos> um.. its the taskbar ;)
[15:11] <mario> hi i'm a new user to Kubuntu and its so good
[15:12] <HappySmileMan> bigos: Well then not the plasmoids fault I think, taskbar is fine for me
[15:12] <cstoner> i've heard of problems with nvidia cards
[15:12] <bigos> HappySmileMan: can you possibly tell, what might be the problem? I already tried reinsalling graphics driver
[15:13] <bigos> also, in KDE 3.5 with compiz everything was fine
[15:14] <cstoner> bigos: http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=kde4+nvidia+slow
[15:14] <gauz> hi i am new to ubuntu
[15:14] <gauz> i am trying to install a tarball application
[15:14] <bigos> cstoner: thanks, but i googled for that
[15:14] <gauz> i have extracted it
[15:14] <gauz> by using the tar xfvz tarball_name
[15:14] <gauz> and now
[15:14] <gauz> i did ./configure
[15:15] <gauz> how shud i install it from here ...using makefile ?
[15:15] <cstoner> assuming all compiled fine a 'sudo make install' (without quotes) should install the app
[15:16] <gauz> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/89257/
[15:16] <gauz> here is my file list
[15:16] <gauz> okk
[15:16] <gauz> working on sudo make install
[15:16] <HappySmileMan> bigos: Unfortunately only thing you could really do is wait for drivers that don't completely suck from NVidia, there's instructions somewhere on how to slightly speed up KDe on NVidia cards, but dunno where they are
[15:16] <gauz> brb
[15:16] <bigos> HappySmileMan: thanks, Ill google for it right away
[15:17] <HappySmileMan> And you could try disable the NVidia driver and use just "nv", but then desktop effects and any 3D apps you use would become very slow and possibly unusuable
[15:17] <bigos> it's not that bad, but I see what could be done
[15:17] <cstoner> gauz: Any reason you're compiling your own instead of using apt?
[15:17] <gauz> can i get apache using apt-get?
[15:17] <cstoner> yes
[15:18] <gauz> how to see the whole at-get repository?
[15:18] <gauz> apt-get*
[15:18] <gauz> is there a site where we can see the whole library of available software
[15:18] <cstoner> using 'apt-cache search <BLAH>' will find all packages with <BLAH>
[15:18] <gauz> kkk
[15:18] <torero> !ru
[15:18] <gauz> let me see
[15:19] <cadooo> gauz:  sudo apt-get apache2
[15:19] <cadooo> gauz:  sudo apt-get install apache2
[15:22] <gauz> yeah
[15:22] <gauz> installation in progress
[15:22] <gauz> thnx
[15:22] <g_> I keep getting this horrible bug, the computer completely crashes and freezes up.  It just started happening when i used kubuntu intrepid, it seems to happen when Im using alot of ram with firefox
[15:22] <Bauldrick> if i wanted to replace hdd with bigger one and keep all files etc... can I just tar / and then untar on bigger hdd then remove old hdd (would sdb become sda etc..) or not
[15:23] <cstoner> Bauldrick: It's not quite that simple.
[15:23] <Bauldrick> didn't think so
[15:23] <cstoner> You have to worry about the MBR and stuff, too
[15:24] <bigos> Bauldrick: There is a tool called "dd" that does exact copy of a harddrive
[15:24] <cstoner> you could always just install the bigger hdd and mount it somewhere convenient
[15:24] <gauz> i have installed apache
[15:25] <gauz> but ...how to run and execute apache
[15:25] <HappySmileMan> Bauldrick: Do you really need anything other than your /home directory? I mean it'd be less hassle to copy that, which would have all personall files and settings, then install everything again, than to try copy whole thing
[15:25] <gauz> it is not being shown in the Application menu
[15:25] <cstoner> bigos: But I'm sure he doesn't want the same partition tables and all...
[15:25] <stdin> !apache | gauz, see this guide
[15:25] <cstoner> gauz: /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[15:26] <gauz> kk
[15:26] <g_> Anyone handling bugs in here?  Ive got a critical one, super bad BSOD bad
[15:26] <stdin> !bug | g_
[15:27] <g_> Im not sure what is causing the problem though how would i find out?
[15:27] <Bauldrick> HappySmileMan: yeah lots of 'stuff' that I've installed that can't be 'apt-gett'd' - still think I'll probably just re-install and try and remeber everything I've put on etc... cheers
[15:27] <stdin> g_: report the issue and someone will ask you for any other information needed
[15:27] <g_> ok
[15:29] <gauz> it says httpd is already running
[15:29] <cstoner> Ok, your server is running then
[15:29] <gauz> so...there is no explicit way to see as in windows ..where apache is seen commonly in taskbar
[15:29] <gauz> got it
[15:29] <gauz> hmm
[15:30] <cstoner> You could always 'ps aux' and look for it, I guess
[15:30] <gauz> kk
[15:30] <cadooo> gauz: http://localhost should give you a page with it works
[15:30] <cstoner> that's the easy way to check ;)
[15:30] <gauz> yeah
[15:30] <gauz> It works!
[15:30] <gauz> :P
[15:31] <gauz> to search for apt-get for php
[15:31] <gauz> apt-cache search php
[15:31] <gauz> is this the desired syntax?
[15:31] <stdin> gauz: if you read the guide ubottu posted it will tell you what to install
[15:31] <cstoner> yeah, you probably want mod_php though
[15:32] <gauz> kk
[15:32] <HappySmileMan> http://i42.tinypic.com/2cmufr8.jpg
[15:32] <HappySmileMan> ... Wrong window
[15:32] <HappySmileMan> But that's funny anyway IMO
[15:33] <cstoner> agreed
[15:33] <gauz> wow
[15:33] <gauz> the whole of lamp stack
[15:33] <gauz> amazing!
[15:33] <gauz> thnx
[15:33] <cstoner> gauz: Welcome to 1998!
[15:33] <gauz> :P
[15:34] <gauz> y so
[15:34] <gauz> ?
[15:34] <cstoner> lamp is way old
[15:34] <gauz> kkk
[15:34] <gauz> wats the new thing then?
[15:34] <cstoner> like... I was learning mysql and perl back around '98
[15:34] <gauz> kk
[15:34] <cstoner> there is nothing new! It's all the same old crap in a new box
[15:34] <gauz> any new variant ..which has come out recently?
[15:34] <gauz> hehee
[15:34] <gauz> okk
[15:35] <chriys> Bonjour quelqu'un pourrai m'Aider svp ?
[15:35] <stdin> !fr | chriys
[15:35] <cstoner> How do you improve on the 'webserver, language, backend' model? you don't
[15:35] <gauz> true
[15:36] <chriys> thank you :D
[15:40] <DoubleD84> Could someone refer a decent partitioning program for kde?
[15:41] <The_Only_ONe> http://hispachat.ya.com/hispachat/c565184565557565199565280.htm
[15:42] <stdin> DoubleD84: there is qtparted
[15:43] <DoubleD84> thx stdin
[15:44] <kanuha> how do I manage desktop effects in kubuntu?
[15:45] <piiile> systemsettings -> desktop settings (or whatever thats called... I'm using the German localisation.)
[15:48] <kanuha> found it, thx : -)
[16:03] <piiile> is anyone experienced with proxy settings in wget?
[16:03] <cstoner> yes. Not me, but surely *someone* must be
[16:04] <olivier> Hi, do you know if I need some kind of patch for my kubuntu given that I have a nvidia 8600GT graphic card and I run intrepid  ?
[16:05] <piiile> olivier: concernig drivers?
[16:05] <olivier> piiile: yes
[16:06] <piiile> you should be able to install nvidiadrivers via the restricted drivers window...
[16:06] <piiile> programms->system->hardware drivers
[16:06] <olivier> piiile: so far I have the 177.80 installed but still not the best result ever..
[16:07] <piiile> ok...
[16:07] <piiile> so whats your problem exactly?
[16:07] <rjm101> does anyone know how to get a pixart camera to work, I tried all the files and gspca does not have or make a gspca.ko file
[16:07] <olivier> piiile: some kind of micro freeze, it's not perfectly "smooth"
[16:07] <piiile> ??
[16:08] <olivier> piiile: ?? because you don't understan what I say or because you don't understand what might be the question..??
[16:09] <piiile> first one: what exactly is a micro freeze? (i'm german, so this might be a language proble...)
[16:10] <olivier> piiile: imagine, you have a windows poping up on your screen, from very small to full screen ok ?
[16:10] <piiile> yaah
[16:10] <piiile> !glx
[16:10] <piiile> !nvidia
[16:11] <olivier> piiile: well, in my case instead of having the whole thing going smoothly, then some steps are just skipped and that the feeling of a not very smooth effect
[16:12] <piiile> so kind of lagging
[16:12] <pronoy> hi i just installed a .deb of crossover linux professional and i am unable to see it in any of my menus ? how do use it ?
[16:12] <pronoy> !crossover
[16:12] <olivier> piiile: exactly
[16:12] <piiile> olivier:does this always happen?
[16:12] <olivier> piiile: yeah
[16:13] <piiile> or just when your cpu's pretty busy?
[16:13] <piiile> enough free ram?
[16:13] <olivier> piiile: I guess...
[16:13] <piiile> weird...
[16:15] <piiile> you might want to switch on the fps-display...
[16:15] <olivier> piiile: yes, weird. what is fps-display ??
[16:15] <pronoy> crossover anyone ?
[16:15] <piiile> systemsettings->desktop settings
[16:16] <piiile> that shows you the fps of your desktop
[16:16] <piiile> and the desktop effects respectively
[16:18] <olivier> piiile: I can also swith off desktop effects...
[16:19] <pronoy> can anyone help me with crossover issue ?
[16:20] <olivier> pronoy: sorry, what is the problem ??
[16:20] <piiile> olivier:well, that would probably solve your problem but disable any eyecandy-desktop effects... if your ok with that ;)
[16:21] <pronoy> olivier: i just installed a .deb of crossover linux professional and i am unable to see it in any of my menus ? how do use it ?
[16:22]  * Secutor is away: Gone away for now.
[16:22] <olivier> pronoy: you sure there's a gui with that software ??
[16:22] <pronoy> olivier: i am not sure...is there a way to start it using cli ?
[16:23] <olivier> pronoy: because, if no gui, that mght explain why you don't have menu entry...
[16:24] <pronoy> olivier: is there a way to start it using cli ?
[16:25] <olivier> pronoy: well, actually I don't know a thing about crossover so I can't really help you
[16:25] <olivier> !crossover
[16:26] <Guest53417> hi, I have install compiz (sudo apt-get install compiz) but now I need to active it and I cann't remember that step
[16:26] <Guest53417> I am using kubuntu 8.10
[16:26] <pronoy> olivier: ok..i'll hang around
[16:26] <pronoy> Guest53417: search for advanced effects or ccsm
[16:26] <pronoy> Guest53417: join #compiz-fusion
[16:30] <olivier> by the way, do you know where is the good old kcontrol ??
[16:32] <jirik-1> Hi, have some problem ... My apache does not run well. When I open some php script, it is offered to download instead of run. Where it the problem?
[16:39] <cadooo> pronoy: http://www.codeweavers.com/support/docs/crossover-pro/
[16:41] <cadooo> !lamp | jirik-1
[16:42] <cadooo> jirik-1: you probably don't have php installed
[16:45] <Stonki> hello, I have kubuntu running on my eee1000. If I add a USB mouse its recognized by the system (lsusb, /var/log/messages), but not from the x-server (kde 4.1). Any ideas ?
[16:45] <jirik-1> cadooo: I have php5 installed, via lamp
[16:46] <cuznt> i am useless to help but must ask what is an eee1000 ?
[16:48] <fjellrev1> I am having some trouble with unraring movies,the unraring process seems to end prematurely, get files that are 300 instead of image files of 4gb and I get no error message..anyone know any solution?
[16:48] <gauz> what is the default folder equivalent of htdocs in windows to host php files?
[16:49] <gauz> public_html
[16:49] <gauz> ?
[16:49] <gauz> where is it located?
[16:50] <gauz> ?
[16:53] <jussi01> gauz: most web stuff goes to /var/www iirc
[16:54] <gauz> kk
[16:54] <gauz> let me try
[17:11] <tekteen> anyone know how to use the 3g usb cards in kubuntu? I am using ibex and do not want to install gnome.
[17:18] <ctw> Hi! So I'm running Kubuntu 08.10 with KDE4 and I noticed that windows in the task bar are not grouped by default. Is there a way to enable grouping of windows in the task bar?
[17:22] <ctw> anyone? I tried playing with the settings and googling, but could not figure it out ...
[17:25] <gauz> if i want to change permission for a folder
[17:26] <gauz> chmod 755 foldername
[17:26] <gauz> is this syntax correct?
[17:26] <alberto__> there are more ways
[17:26] <gauz> like
[17:26] <alberto__> chmod +x a foldername
[17:27] <gauz> kk
[17:27] <gauz> but
[17:27] <gauz> what does 755 mean?
[17:27] <alberto__> rwxr_xr_x
[17:28] <LivingDead> execute 4= read only 3= write, execute 2= write only 1= execute only.
[17:30] <alberto__> Somebody knows kompozer ????
[17:31] <LivingDead> not really
[17:32] <alberto__> is a HTML editor WYSIWYG
[17:32] <alberto__> as Macromedia (more or less)
[17:32] <Hydrogen> depends on the html eeditor
[17:32] <Hydrogen> :)
[17:32] <alberto__> somebody use this app???
[17:33] <LivingDead> looked pretty decent
[17:33] <alberto__> yes, but in Kubuntu 8.10 ..
[17:33] <alberto__> the version is 0.7.10 (20080314)
[17:34] <milemist> my panel disappeared when I was resizing it... I think it just shrunk beyond recognition, but I have no idea how to bring it back... any ideas??
[17:35] <LivingDead> should be some command you can use to reset it
[17:35] <alberto__> ok, I never seen an application that get crash so many times
[17:35] <alberto__> NEVER
[17:35] <alberto__> if you want see it
[17:36] <alberto__> create a table
[17:36] <cstoner> alberto__: I suggest you complain loudly about it until we all set you on ignore...
[17:36]  * cstoner thinks the internet needs sarcastics... they're like italics, but for sarcasm
[17:37] <milemist> uhm... any suggestions for commands, help files, config files I might look into??
[17:37] <cstoner> milemist: KDE 4.1 or 4.2beta2?
[17:37] <LivingDead> try kcontrol
[17:38] <milemist> I installed kubuntu 8.10, so I'm not sure...
[17:38] <milemist> i don't think it was the beta...
[17:38] <wesley> Can you install kubuntu also on a external harddrive ?
[17:38] <LivingDead> yes you should be able to do that
[17:39] <milemist> kcontrol from a terminal window??
[17:39] <LivingDead> yeah
[17:39] <wesley> because i have bought the intel atom 330 with motherboard, and all i need is power and memory and a harddrive
[17:39] <LivingDead> but i don't think it will work
[17:39] <LivingDead> but try it
[17:40] <milemist> bash says that the command cannot be found...
[17:40] <LivingDead> ok
[17:40] <milemist> :\ tx though. :)
[17:43] <LivingDead> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3710945&postcount=2
[17:43] <LivingDead> only thing i can find about it
[17:54] <milemist> tx LivingDead. It didn't work. Apparently, instead of kcontrol one should use systemsettings, but I can't find where to specify the system tray settings. I'll keep looking later.
[17:56] <oim> h, everbody. ı want to install amarok 2 to kde4. how?
[17:57] <oim> h, everbody. ı want to install amarok 2 to kde4. how?
[18:01] <Walachuriun> hi everyone
[18:01] <oim> hi
[18:01] <oim> h, everbody. ı want to install amarok 2 to kde4. how?
[18:01] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[18:02] <Kream> hi all
[18:02] <oim> hi
[18:02] <Walachuriun> I got a little problem here: fresh installation, cant set the resolution to any reasonable values (640x480 is max)
[18:02] <Kream> i've just logged into kubuntu after a long time, apparently adept is no longer maintained; which package manager should I use ?
[18:02] <Kream> i'm on 8.10
[18:03] <oim> Kream: adept is aviable on 8.10 but you can use add and remove or synaptic
[18:04] <rjm101> Happy Holidays everyone
[18:04] <jsunio> walachuriun: I had that problem until I downloaded a driver for my video card and it configured xorg.conf for me
[18:04] <Kream> synaptic will pull in all the gnome stuff right?
[18:04] <Kream> add and remove ? what command is that?
[18:04] <rjm101> can anyone help on a pixart camera, ??
[18:05] <Walachuriun> I got a GeForce 7300LE, proprietary drivers are already installed
[18:05] <Walachuriun> didn`t set any resolutions in the config file so I set some manually but I can`t use them
[18:05] <Kream> adept is severely dysfunctional in 8.10
[18:05] <Walachuriun> and yes, of course I did restart kdm
[18:05] <Kream> i can't search for strings in package names
[18:06] <Kream> Walachuriun: have you tried using the nv (free) driver to see if it works ?
[18:06] <deamoon> hi  all could any1 help me to make frostwire working cos i dont know whats wrong with it its not starting
[18:07] <deamoon> plz help me
[18:07] <Walachuriun> not after I changed the config manually, will give it a try immediately. thanks Kream
[18:08] <rjm101> #ubuntu
[18:10] <deamoon> any1?
[18:13] <cuznt> did you restart your pc after installing frostwire?
[18:13] <cuznt> !frostwire | deamoon
[18:13] <Walachuriun> Kream, using nv I now have 800x600 available... any idea what I`m doing wrong?
[18:14] <cuznt> !nvidia | Walachuriun
[18:15] <Walachuriun> ok, thanks
[18:16] <tnzuc> emoclew er'uoY
[18:16] <tnzuc> (;
[18:18] <deamoon> YES I DID
[18:19] <brooksbp> hellp
[18:19] <brooksbp> hello
[18:19] <brooksbp> can someone please help?
[18:19] <brooksbp> I had ubuntu server running
[18:20] <brooksbp> and then i installed kubuntu-desktop
[18:20] <brooksbp> and x11vnc
[18:20] <brooksbp> x11vnc can't start X11
[18:20] <brooksbp> help!
[18:22] <kalel> ciao
[18:22] <kalel> !it
[18:23] <deamoon> thanks to cuznt
[18:23] <deamoon> for help
[18:23] <deamoon> it does work now
[18:25] <cuznt> i mearly redirected ya. :) its good shiney kharma to pass on ubuntu vibes
[18:26] <deamoon> lol
[18:29] <hell_> !fr
[18:29] <SiVA_> I'm exporting video from kino. Should I choose "Raw dv" or "DV AVI " ? Eventually it will go on dvd disc
[18:30] <hell_> it's depend on the available space you've got
[18:30] <hell_> raw take a huge place
[18:31] <SiVA_> I'm ok with the space... I want the best quality
[18:31] <SiVA_> what tool can I use to burn this to dvd?
[18:35] <hell_> besk quality = raw
[18:35] <hell_> 30go per hour...
[18:37] <ikazmi2> hey hi everyone
[18:37] <ikazmi2> anyone using kde 4.2 here?
[18:37] <hell_> not me, kde 3.5
man datz sooo outdated
[18:38] <hell_> i don't like kde 4 sorry...
[18:38] <ikazmi2> hell_: y not??
[18:39] <hell_> personnal feeling
[18:39] <ikazmi2> must have a reason, shldnt it?
[18:39] <deamoon> kde4.2 is relezed?
[18:40] <SiVA_> 4.2 is flaky
[18:40] <hell_> and a damn bug : with kubuntu 8.10 my computer can't turn off...
[18:40] <SiVA_> I like it tho
[18:40] <deamoon> how can i get kde 4.2?
[18:40] <ikazmi2> siva: 4.2 is in beta 2 stage so obviosuly it has some bugs which need ironing out...
[18:40] <hell_> you must add a depot to your sources.list
[18:41] <deamoon> i c
[18:41] <SiVA_> right...
[18:41] <deamoon> how can i chemck what kde version i got?
[18:41] <SiVA_> but why would they make it a major version release if it's still beta? doens't make sense
[18:42] <hell_> SiVA_ it's not a major version for the moment
[18:42] <hell_> it's just a beta
[18:42] <ikazmi2> daemon: add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu intrepid main to your /etc/apt/source.lst
[18:43] <Bret> I have just installed Kubuntu on my Laptop but I cant get the wireless working. Not quite sure how it works. Could someone point me in the right direction please? :)
[18:43] <ikazmi2> siva_: who made it a major version
[18:43] <SiVA_> should've been 4.2b not 4.2 but anyway.. i still like it.. I htink it's very innovative
[18:43] <ikazmi2> anyone been able to add non precompiled plasmoids to it?
[18:43] <hell_> Bret do you have the wireless card detected?
[18:44] <ikazmi2> i can add them but they don't show up in the Add Widget dialog...
[18:45] <ikazmi2> bret: can you do a sudo lspci?
[18:45] <Bret> Ah I have - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_%28ndiswrapper%29
[18:45] <deamoon> ikamiz i cant put that link
[18:45] <Bret> Says it's not working out of the box
[18:45] <deamoon> its not letting me
[18:45] <deamoon> y?
[18:46] <Bret> Ah I have rev_02, not 01
[18:47] <ikazmi2> bret: hard luck bret, i have that too...it was working fine with kernel 2.6.27-7 but with the later kernels, i havent had much luck
[18:47] <ikazmi2> and im using the laptop at home mailnly these days anyway, so never bothered to really look into it.
[18:47] <Bret> What, so it won't work at all? Dang, I'm sure it worked with Ubuntu, I'll change to that then
[18:47] <ikazmi2> i guess you could try blacklisting the native drivers and going for ndiswrapper!
[18:47] <Bret> Thanks anyway
[18:48] <Bret> Hm
[18:48] <Bret> Problem is I don't know how :)
[18:48] <Guest47628> my laptop and pc are connected to the same router, how can I sned files using konqueror or something??
[18:48] <ikazmi2> deamoon: wot did u add?
[18:49] <hell_> Guest47628 use samba
[18:50] <Guest47628> hell:  do you have any recomendation to read
[18:50] <ikazmi2> google?
[18:50] <Guest47628> ikazmi2: really? thanks :-)=
[18:51] <Bret> ikazmi2, what would be easier. ndiswrapper or just uninstalling and installing ubuntu. I used wubi so, should be easy
[18:51] <deamoon> http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu
[18:52] <[Relic]> anyone using the latest kde4.2 and know how to shut off the automatically lock session after # minutes?
[18:52] <Bret> ill just install ubuntu no worries, thanks for your help
[18:52] <ikazmi2> bret: ndiswrapper should be easier
[18:53] <Bret> Are there any tutorials and is it likely to work?
[18:53] <ikazmi2> deamoon: its "http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu intrepid main"
[18:53] <ikazmi2> intrepid main is included
[18:54] <deamoon> oh
[18:54] <deamoon> i c
[18:54] <ikazmi2> bret: well i used it with kubuntu 8.04 for a couple of months and it never gave me any problems
[18:56] <deamoon> ikami2 well i cant put it anyways
[18:56] <deamoon> im doing it througt software sources
[18:58] <ikazmi2> relic: im using kde 4.2 beta 2 since yesterday, it hasnt auto locked for me so far
[18:59] <[Relic]> I let it run for a long time unattended  :)
[18:59] <[Relic]> rendering is boring to watch   :)
[19:00] <[Relic]> I just did the whole upgrade of a billion things that were upgradable yesterday too
[19:00] <[Relic]> now the little icons in the system try don't stack again
[19:02] <ikazmi2> relic: which little icons?
[19:08] <federico> ciao
[19:08] <federico> a tt
[19:14] <ubuntoil> hello, I have some trouble connecting to my wireless network with kubuntu 8.10. here is a paste of ifconfig, interface and nm-system-settings.conf : http://pastebin.com/m747f2afa . Can you please help me
[19:15] <[Relic]> ikazmi2, the system tray, aka what is currently active (all my coretemp sensors from ksensors)
[19:16] <Hisham> Hi every1!!! How can i Set my Proxy and Port settings for Adept??
[19:17] <ikazmi2> Relic: i dont use that sensor program :(
[19:17] <magical> Hisham, I think it just uses the bash environment variables (or maybe the kde settings)
[19:17] <[Relic]> it also contains the klipper, hp printer icon, kmix, etc.
[19:18] <[Relic]> so instead of having 2 rows of 8 I have one row of 15 taking about 1/3 of the bar
[19:18] <magical> Hisham, so either in /etc/environment put a line that reads http_proxy=http://yourproxy:8080 etc, or go in the kde network settings and put it in
[19:18] <magical> Hisham, if you need to use a socks proxy, get a program called tsocks
[19:19] <cuznt> !adept | Hisham
[19:20] <magical> cuznt, that has no information on proxies D:
[19:20] <cuznt> right on
[19:20]  * cuznt makes another mental note
[19:20] <cadooo> !wireless | ubuntoil
[19:20] <cuznt> anyone have a mental erasur?
[19:26] <federico> ciao a tutti
[19:26] <federico> chi mi sa dire
[19:26] <federico> come configuro kubutnu per
[19:26] <federico> la rete
[19:26] <federico> ?
[19:27] <jpds> !it | federico
[19:27] <federico> ok
[19:27] <wesley> http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=160287516222  guys what do you think of this motherboard and cpu
[19:30] <Guest18110> I know how to create a user from the terminal, but how can I set the password to him?
[19:30] <[Relic]> wesley, medicore dual core low power board, if you want mini-itx better to spend and get one that does a quad core and 4G of ram
[19:31] <Guest18110> I did find it..
[19:31] <Guest18110> passwd:)
[19:33] <wesley> Relic, i am not aiming at a high energy usage
[19:33] <wesley> either do i have that money, i am planning to add to the dual core atom 2 gb memory and a 500 gb harddrive
[19:34] <ikazmi2> anyone with a solution for installed plasmoids not showing up in the "Add Widget"
[19:34] <[Relic]> ikazmi2, tell them to install it properly in the next update?
[19:34] <[Relic]> I have noted a few just don't give any stuff at all in the add widget
[19:36] <wesley> [Relic] My goal is to create a small costum system with minimal energy use
[19:36] <[Relic]> wesley, have you checked out the info on this site?  ->  http://www.mini-itx.com/
[19:36] <ikazmi2> Relic: that is working fr everyone in kde 4.1
[19:37] <ikazmi2> im tryin the plasmoid-wolfplay
[19:37] <ikazmi2> seems pretty cool
[19:37] <ikazmi2> so id like to try it
[19:38] <wesley> [Relic] No but i checked some other sites, and the atom 330 is the best off its kind
[19:38] <ikazmi2> oops dat was playwolf :)...my bad
[19:39] <[Relic]> wesley, big question is will you be able to deal with only 2G of ram?
[19:39] <wesley> yes ofcourse
[19:40] <ikazmi2> heh 2G ram is pretty much enough fer linux...its not vista he is trying to run!
[19:41] <wesley> Vista runs fine on it, stated in reviews
[19:41] <[Relic]> without know what you want to run you need to make sure you check  :)
[19:41] <[Relic]> best to ask all the questions before a purchase  :)
[19:41] <ikazmi2> welsey, wot are u planning to run on it
[19:42] <wesley> I know, i wanna run kubuntu ( which i run now to )
[19:42] <ikazmi2> wesley, then u are safe man
[19:42] <ubuntoil> can you please at least tell me If I should have in nm-system-settings.conf managed = true or false if I want the knetworkmanager to manage all the network...
[19:42] <wright> Alright so im basically an Ubuntu virgin...and i need help.  i have a pop up saying "unlock keyring" whenever i try to acess Evolution mail
[19:43] <ubuntoil> wright : password ??
[19:43] <wright> and since it started asking me yesterday for the Keyring thing, it hasnt received any mail, it can only send.  any ideas?
[19:43] <ikazmi2> wright: lol at the start bit of ur msg :)
[19:43] <ikazmi2> wright: yeh, as ubuntoil said enter the pwd
[19:43] <wright> i know my password, but it hasnt asked for it the whole 2 weeks+ I have had Ubuntu...until yesterday morning
[19:44] <wright> and now it doesnt receive the new emails through Evolution it just sends...
[19:44] <ikazmi2> wright: wait, are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[19:45] <wright> ummm...Well I installed Ubuntu, but after an Update it loads Kubuntu
[19:45] <wright> when i start up the computer it says "Kubuntu" now in the pruple/ble letters
[19:45] <wright> blue*
[19:46] <ikazmi2> wright: u chose to install kde then?
[19:46] <wright> yea
[19:46] <wright> it appears so.  Becuase I had both Kubuntu and Ubuntu disks, used them to just view which one i liked, and Chose Ubuntu, but then installed KDE through 'Synaptic Package Manager'
[19:46] <Omoikane__> Is there a way to install kubuntu and use a ubuntu home backup?
[19:46] <ubuntoil> does anyoe have a clue about nm-ssystem-setting.conf ??
[19:47] <wright> it just seemed odd to me that after it started to ask for the Keyring it wont receive any emails, it can only send.
[19:48] <ikazmi2> ubuntoil: sorry mate, i wldve loved to help but no idea
[19:48] <desu> Omoikane__: you can bind the home directory of your ubuntu install to your kubuntu install by mounting it using '--bind'... however, you can also install kde on ubuntu which is a much better way...
[19:48] <ikazmi2> wright: u chose gnome over kde? the blasphemy :p
[19:48] <ubuntoil> ikazmi2 : damn....I will never figure out that $^%$
[19:48] <ikazmi2> Omolkane__: install gtk, i guess
[19:49] <wright> well like i said, im an ubuntu virgin...so i just thought id check it out
[19:49] <tue_> Hey!. Im using kde 4.2 beta 2 on kubuntu 8.10. If i interact with certain plasma components, for example pres alt-tab, applications will no longer resieve keyboard input and mouse input is screwed up as well. i have tried to remove .kde and .kderc but no luck
[19:49] <Omoikane__> desu just uninstall compiz and install KDE?
[19:50] <wright> im just really confused and my local computer guys have no idea cuz all the do is Windows/Mac
[19:50] <desu> Omoikane__: if you dont want compiz, sure, you can uninstall it... but uninstallation is not required... just do a `sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and you'll get kde as one of the session options while logging in
[19:50] <ikazmi2> tue: i just tried alt-tab, nothing cool like no keyboard happened :(
[19:50] <desu> you can also use compiz instead of kwin while on kde, though...
[19:51] <tue_> ikazmi2: im sure its not a kde bug per see, must be a configuration issue of some sort. just cant figure it out :-(
[19:51] <ikazmi2> tue: do u have compiz?
[19:52] <ikazmi2> wright: cld it be that your evolution settings are wrong?
[19:52] <wright> i doubt it.  It never asked for this until yesterday morning.
[19:53] <wright> i have rechecked all the settings...its  POP3 and i know the mail server
[19:53] <tue_> ikazmi2: no
[19:53] <ikazmi2> wright: did u install any updates?
[19:53] <isaacj87> hey all, is there any fix for kbluetooth4 yet?
[19:54] <tue_> ikazmi2: i think its definately related to plasma or kwin. as long as i dont use krunner, alt-tab and that kind of stuff everything works
[19:54] <wright> yea...hold on il ltell you.
[19:55] <ikazmi2> tue: cant say why it would be happenin mate :(...
[19:55] <crimsun> 0/win 21
[19:55] <crimsun> sorry
[19:56] <wright> Kubuntu-default-settings, kubuntu-desktop (and the desktop hasnt changed...), kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts, kubuntu-docs, kubuntu-artwork-usplash, kubuntu-artwork-kbfx, kubuntu-grub-splashimages, kubuntu-restricted-extras, language-selector-qt, and kmformat
[19:57] <wright> yea, just those
[19:58] <ikazmi2> it could be somethng in the default settings
[19:59] <wright> hmmm....
[20:00] <wright> i just got this: You might be using a different display manager, such as KDM (KDE Display Manager), CDE login (dtlogin), or xdm. If you wish to use this feature, then your system will need to be configured to use GDM inste
[20:02] <wright> shiiiit this is so complicated haha
[20:02] <ikazmi2> wright: wot wur u doing?
[20:02] <wright> just trying some stuff...
[20:03] <wright> i was going through Konqueror and boom that came up
[20:04] <ikazmi2> wrigth: well kdm is the display manager for kde, gdm for gnome
[20:04] <wright> how do i switch to kdm?
[20:04] <wright> or to gdm for that matteR?
[20:05] <ikazmi2> i think u already are using kdm
[20:06] <wright> how would i switch to gdm if i wanted?
[20:06] <wright> because it told me "you arent in...you should run gdm"
[20:07] <arussel> how can I know when an app (FF) will be upgraded ( I need 3.1.b2 at least) ?
[20:07] <ikazmi2> wright: depends on wot u did/wur trying to do
[20:07] <violator> buenas tardes
[20:08] <wright> oh ok
[20:08] <wright> ill just leave it like it is then
[20:08] <violator> help spanish ?
[20:08] <violator> help spanish ubuntu ?
[20:08] <isaacj87> !es | violator
[20:08] <violator> ok gracias
[20:09] <isaacj87> de nada :)
[20:10] <wright> thank you all who have helped
[20:11] <ikazmi2> and failed :)
[20:16] <m0m0> bjour
[20:16] <ikazmi2> bonjour
[20:19] <hyper_ch> good evening everybody
[20:24] <torero> !ru
[20:30] <gsap> hello everyone! kubuntu is awesome)
[20:32] <pulaski> hello
[20:33] <pulaski> does anyone have any experience with k3b cd recording?
[20:33] <levidos_> did anyone use pulseaudio to stream sount from linux to a windows machine?
[20:33] <michael__> k3b cd
[20:33] <michael__> works ok for me pulaski.
[20:33] <szrhawaii> what do i need to change my bootsplash on kde 8.10 or where do i go
[20:36] <szrhawaii> or i should specify the splash screen after the grub boot the one before you come to your login screen
[20:37] <pulaski> hi michael__thanks for responding,  When I create a new project and drag .ogg files down to the current project window k3b inserts the name and title of a previous file I recorded in the name and title of that .ogg file. Is there a default k3b behavior that I can change that will insert the current name and title?
[20:40] <seyf> hello?
[20:40] <szrhawaii> hola
[20:44] <chestnut> Hi! I'm looking for a way to hide the task bar to the left or the right - as was possible in KDE3. Is there a way to achieve this? (Autohide would do, too - but any tutorials I found seemed to apply only to other distributions)
[20:47] <cadooo> chestnut: I don't think authiding is available in your version of kde4. It has been added in for the next release.
[20:48] <chestnut> cadoo: What about the arrows at the left and the right to hide it in either direction?
[20:48] <chestnut> ^sorry, cadooo, of course
[20:48] <desu> szrhawaii: look at the example theme sources provided with the usplash packages... modify it to suite your needs... there's also a README in there which will help you set everything up
[20:49] <szrhawaii> i already got it thanks
[20:51] <cadooo> chestnut: I'm not sure I'm running the latest version of kde4 and it's not here. probably best to ask in #kde
[20:53] <chestnut> cadooo: Ok, I'll try there. Thanks a lot for your help! (Btw, before somebody gets me wrong -- I am absolutely in awe of the new kubuntu :-) Hiding the task bar would just be iceing)
[20:53] <[Relic]> how do I find what program installed a specific lib?
[21:03] <BluesKaj> howdy
[21:26] <mrksbrd> anyone updated to konversation 1.1 yet?
[21:27] <p_quarles> mrksbrd: I have it, why?
[21:28] <BluesKaj> mrksbrd: using 1.1 as we speak,,,works great
[21:29] <mrksbrd> is it in repos yet...tried to go thru how web site said...and no luck on install
[21:32] <mrksbrd> i suck @ .tar files but after running ./configure....gives me this error....make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[21:32] <BluesKaj> which kubuntu version are you using, mrksbrd ?
[21:33] <mrksbrd> 3.5
[21:33] <BluesKaj> mrksbrd: you need to instll build-essential
[21:33] <p_quarles> it's in Intrepid Main, too
[21:34] <BluesKaj> on 8.04 then
[21:35] <mrksbrd> ok will check to make sure package is installed
[21:35] <BluesKaj> kde4 is the default on kubuntu 8.10
[21:35] <mrksbrd> yea
[21:35] <Boris666> buenas otra vez xD
[21:35] <Boris666> ya se fue juan ?
[21:36] <mrksbrd> can't get 8.10 to work on my laptop right...sticking with 8.04 for now
[21:36] <Boris666> #ubuntu.es
[21:36] <p_quarles> !es | Boris666
[21:36] <Boris666> help spanish
[21:36] <BluesKaj> !es
[21:36] <Boris666> ok tank
[21:39] <mrksbrd> thanks BluesKaj
[21:45] <dede> !list
[21:49] <eagles0513875> hey guys
[22:20] <oobe> i would just like to say penis fucker
[22:20] <DaSkreech> !op
[22:21] <oobe> sorry
[22:21] <oobe> DaSkreech, is a dibba dobba
[22:25] <amelie> hi
[22:25] <amelie> can anybody help me to play DVD's in ubuntu?
[22:25] <DaSkreech> !dvd
[22:26] <amelie> i've already downloaded the restricted drivers
[22:26] <amelie> but i'm not able to play dvd's yet
[22:26] <DaSkreech> Restricted Formats
[22:26] <DaSkreech> not restricted Drivers
[22:26] <amelie> yes
[22:26] <amelie> that
[22:26] <amelie> i've got confused
[22:27] <amelie> but, yes i've install them
[22:27] <amelie> do i have to reboot?
[22:27] <DaSkreech> amelie: You shouldn't have to. Just restart the application
[22:27] <amelie> i've did it
[22:27] <amelie> with totem movie player
[22:27] <amelie> also tried with vlc movie player
[22:27] <amelie> neither of them are able to play the dvd
[22:28] <DaSkreech> What did you follow?
[22:29] <amelie> i did this ;sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:29] <DaSkreech> Can you see if you have libdvdread3 installed ?
[22:29] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get install libdvdread3 gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[22:29] <DaSkreech> What does that say when you put it in the terminal ?
[22:30] <amelie> well, it came a lot of text for the installation
[22:30] <DaSkreech> Are you on Ibex?
[22:30] <amelie> ubuntu
[22:30] <DaSkreech> :-) Which version?
[22:30] <amelie> ok is a long story
[22:30] <amelie> i tried to mount a raid
[22:30] <DaSkreech> Before the long story :)
[22:31] <amelie> hehehe
[22:31] <DaSkreech> Do you know what version of Ubuntu you are on?
[22:31] <amelie> well, to mount the raid i had to install ubuntu server 8
[22:31] <amelie> then
[22:31] <DaSkreech> ok
[22:31] <amelie> i just put sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:31] <amelie> i supposed is the most recent one
[22:32] <amelie> but i haven't notice wich is
[22:32] <DaSkreech> is that 8.04 or 8.10 ?
[22:32] <ForgeAus> no Ubuntu-Destop package is the same as your installation
[22:32] <amelie> let me see...
[22:32] <DaSkreech> lsb_release -a
[22:32] <DaSkreech> will tell you
[22:32] <ForgeAus> to get a different version you need to apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:32] <DaSkreech> ForgeAus: That's fine :)
[22:33] <amelie> 8.04 hardy
[22:33] <ForgeAus> (or install a new one ontop)
[22:33] <DaSkreech> amelie: Ah ok try sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[22:35] <amelie> thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[22:35] <amelie> it works! it works!
[22:35] <amelie> muaaaackkkk!!!!!
[22:36] <amelie> thanks DaSkreech
[22:36] <DaSkreech> Sure
[22:37] <Guest29970> !compiz-fusion
[22:37] <amelie> is perrrrrfectttt!
[22:48] <torero_> !ru
[22:49] <JediatNight> !de
[22:49] <JediatNight> !es
[22:49] <JediatNight> !sk
[22:53] <JediatNight> !pl
[23:08] <Dr_WIllis_AAO> Hmmm..
[23:08] <DaSkreech> I agree
[23:09] <hyper_ch> I  don't
[23:09] <HappySmileMan> You're both wrong
[23:09] <DaSkreech> tue
[23:10] <Dr_WIllis_AAO> Moo?
[23:13] <cicciux> hey, is there a way to install a svn snapshot of amsn using apt-get??
[23:14] <cicciux> I can build the deb and use dpkg to install it, but that is not exactly what I want... (actually I want something already compiled)
[23:14] <HappySmileMan> Nope, unless you can find a repo which will have an SVN snapshot built, which is very unlikely
[23:15] <cicciux> ok, thanks.
[23:15] <cicciux> I guess I'll script the compile then... :P
[23:17] <DaSkreech> Dr_WIllis_AAO: Baa Umm i mean Bah!
[23:18] <DaSkreech> cicciux: That's more like a source based distro Look into Sourcemagic or gentoo
[23:20] <cicciux> DaSkreech: I actually use kubuntu 8.10, but I'm having problems with the webcam, and svn version of amsn has it solved..
[23:21] <DaSkreech> cicciux: make a deb and install it would be my solution for now
[23:22] <DaSkreech> Or compile in a seperate dir and link the output of <which amsn> to it
[23:25] <Guest29970> the shorcuts I set on the menu editor for some application do not work..
[23:25] <Guest29970> just to make a test, how can I display de kmenu using the keyboard
[23:25] <Guest29970> is alt-f1 right?
[23:26] <DaSkreech> yes
[23:26] <Guest29970> doesnt work... where can be my problem?
[23:26] <Guest29970> I am using 8.10
[23:26] <Guest29970> on my laptop and pc is the same problem
[23:26] <bruno> ola
[23:27] <DaSkreech> Guest29970: Probably not in your config settings
[23:28] <Guest29970> Daskreech: are you using 8.10? if yes? does it work for you?
[23:29] <DaSkreech> I'm using 8.10 and it doesn't work for me since I did dist-upgrade if you did a clean install it should work. It's a few lines in the plasma-appletsrc file
[23:30] <Guest29970> yes, it is a clean install from today actually..but doesnt work.. the same problem with my pc
[23:31] <Guest29970> daskreech: can I fix this problem changing the plasma-appletsrc file?
[23:31] <DaSkreech> yeah
[23:32] <Guest29970> daskreech: can you guide my a bit please..
[23:32] <Guest85127> ola
[23:32] <DaSkreech> Guest85127: Hi
[23:32] <Guest29970> guest85127: hola
[23:32] <DaSkreech> Guest29970: Ok give me a moment can you pastbin the file in the meantime?
[23:32] <Guest85127> olaz
[23:32] <Guest85127> necesito ayuda
[23:33] <genii> !es
[23:33] <Guest29970> daskreech: thanks..I'll wait
[23:34] <Guest29970> guest85127: what's you problem
[23:35] <DaSkreech> Guest29970: Pastebin :)
[23:35] <LOGAN> does kubuntu also offer 3D desktop features?
[23:36] <DaSkreech> Yes
[23:36] <cicciux> compiz?
[23:36] <Guest29970> daskreech: can you give me the link
[23:36] <HappySmileMan> KDE4 has it's own effects
[23:36] <DaSkreech> !paste
[23:36] <DaSkreech> Though you can use compiz if you want
[23:36] <DaSkreech> Just more and more there is less reason to do so
[23:37] <Guest29970> daskreech where is the fie
[23:37] <LOGAN> because I think having 3D desktop is realy innovative. Also is Firefox, OpenOfficeorg and Blender preinstalled in the latest Kubuntu?
[23:38] <DaSkreech> Guest29970: ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc
[23:38] <DaSkreech> No
[23:38] <DaSkreech> One command to install firefox and blender though
[23:39] <Guest29970> daskreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/89553/
[23:39] <LOGAN> yeah but planned to run it as live CD mode, and not always sure if I have internet available
[23:39] <LOGAN> Thought about making a custom iso but not experienced enough and rather have an 'official' live CD :)
[23:39] <LOGAN> thanks for the info though
[23:40] <DaSkreech> LOGAN: Put the debs on a USB drive
[23:41] <LOGAN> probably means I have to continue my search :) (Yeah, found another cool distro that is able to continue boot from USB drive or hdd so cd drive can be used running in live mode
[23:41] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install firefox blender && sudo cp /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb /path/to/USB
[23:42] <DaSkreech> LOGAN: Openoffice is already installed but not the latest version
[23:42] <LOGAN> im unexperienced and also probably show it to non linux users... getting apps from repository might be over our heads for the time being. Just a cool way to demo linux :)
[23:43] <DaSkreech> Guest29970: Yours sould work You have it in there already
[23:44] <DaSkreech> LOGAN: That's to put it on the USB drive
[23:44] <sourcemaker> how can I send a html in kmail using inline images?
[23:44] <Guest29970> daskreech: well, doesnt work for me alt-f1 or any shortcut I try to configurate using the menu editor
[23:44] <DaSkreech> I can give you a script you can keep in the same dir so that when you want you can just run it and it will install firefox and blender from the USB drive for you
[23:44] <DaSkreech> Guest29970: There is no GUI for shortcuts in Plasma yet so GUI wouldnt work
[23:45] <LOGAN> DaSkreech: sounds like thats for more experienced users. I just put the cd in and play around without any other technicalities. Sounds I need some custom ISO or something to have all the apps we windows users know and use and can get playing right away. Tech stuff comes later I guess
[23:46] <DaSkreech> LOGAN: Well if you know the apps you want As I said you can just put htem on a USB drive and carry them with you
[23:46] <Dr_Willis_AAO> try scripting windows to install firefox and other things automatically... :) it can be  a pain
[23:46] <Dr_Willis_AAO> at least its fairly easy under linuyx
[23:46] <DaSkreech> If you have no Internet plugin the USB drive click the script and you hve the applications there
[23:46] <Guest29970> daskreech: the "menu editor" in any application->advance->shortcut ... so, I didn't think this shoud not work if is there
[23:47] <DaSkreech> Dr_Willis_AAO: No it's not that bad as long as you doit at install time
[23:47] <cicciux> yay... svn amsn works with webcam :-D
[23:47] <LOGAN> DaSkreech: I appriciate the thought not I have 0.1% experience with Linux in general :)
[23:47] <DaSkreech> Guest29970: It works for most things :) just not for plasma yet
[23:47] <DaSkreech> cicciux: Whoot
[23:48] <Dr_Willis_AAO> Heh last few windows machines ive worked on.. the first powwer up/boot seems to take an hr+ for windows to configure itself the first time..
[23:48] <Dr_Willis_AAO> its getting scary how long it tales me from Unboxing a new windows machine.. to actually being able to use it.
[23:49] <LOGAN> lol
[23:49] <LOGAN> sounds like a mac fan :)
[23:49] <Dr_Willis_AAO> sadly i am SERIOUS..   Wifes new LAptop -> an hr for the first boot.. then wow. NO  restore media.. another 2 hrs to burn them to dvd...
[23:49] <Dr_Willis_AAO> THEN its ready for her to play her PopCap Games
[23:49] <DaSkreech> Dr_Willis_AAO: an hour and a half for me
[23:49] <Dr_Willis_AAO> :P
[23:50] <LOGAN> setup takes bloody ages yes. lucky thats a one time process :)
[23:50] <Guest29970> daskreech: after the bad news... can I still think at least about alt-f1 ?? :)
[23:50] <Dr_Willis_AAO> I will admit this AcerAspireOne has a restore partiion. I can rextore XP from it in 5 min... but thenthat first boot/config again.. takes 30+ min...
[23:51] <DaSkreech> Guest29970: try kquitapp plasma; plasma
[23:51] <Dr_Willis_AAO> brb
[23:51]  * LOGAN just has the CD, just to be sure :D Oh and cudos to the new printed Kubuntu CD
[23:52] <DaSkreech> Dr_Willis_AAO: I can install a brand new linux install in less time than that and with ~ partition I have all my data and settings
[23:52] <Dr_Willis_AAO> yep.
[23:52] <Dr_Willis_AAO> oh wait.. I just installed some Kodak Photo software for the wife... GOlly I HAVE to reboot.. Nice windowqs.. nice...
[23:52] <Dr_Willis_AAO> :)
[23:52] <Dr_Willis_AAO> brb
[23:53] <LOGAN> im scared partition a drive that has already a running OS on it
[23:53]  * LOGAN shivers
[23:53] <LOGAN> and I need more space, maybe a new HDD :(
[23:54] <DaSkreech> LOGAN: Sure that's reasonable I guess
[23:54] <DaSkreech> LOGAN: You can use wubi as well That will install linux as a windows program
[23:54] <DaSkreech> No partitioning
[23:56] <LOGAN> Yeah sounds cool but am weary if it might be slower
[23:56] <LOGAN> (but faster than running from CD i assume
[23:57] <DaSkreech> Well you can try it for a week if you don't like it you can remove it from add/remove programs in Windows
[23:58]  * DaSkreech gets ready to pounce Dr_Willis on his return
[23:58]  * genii hands DaSkreech a coffee
[23:58]  * DaSkreech slurps and gets wired