[00:00] <DanaG> It may also be the motherboard, but that's for them to figure out; there's only so much I can do myself.
[00:00] <DanaG> s/can/should/
[00:03] <DanaG> Here's what fglrx currently does when the asic hangs: prints a trace to dmesg, then makes Xorg hang, eat cpu, and become unkillable.
[00:03] <DanaG> ... oh yeah, and then the system won't shut down normally.
[00:03] <DanaG> ssh still works, but shutdown hangs at killing, I think.
[00:04] <DanaG> What I'd rather it do: CRASH / kill the x server (instead of hanging it), and then not let it start again.
[00:04] <DanaG> At least then I wouldn't have to revert to ssh to shut it down.
[00:41] <yoyoned> I just tried to install alpha2 using the alternate install images.  My USB keyboard is not working.  Any ideas?
[00:43] <genii> yoyoned: Use a ps2->usb converter?
[00:45] <yoyoned> yoyoned: no ps2 ports
[00:50] <genii> yoyoned: I'd say load the usbhid and usbkbd drivers but it's hard to do without an input method...
[01:01] <yoyoned> genii: is there a way to load drivers from grub?
[01:02] <genii> yoyoned: Possibly in the kernel load line if you edit it
[01:19] <ethana2> #kubuntu+1 redirects here I see
[01:20] <ethana2> does Kubuntu Jaunty alpha 2 have KDE4.2beta2?
[01:21] <ethana2> ...and is 64 bit flash and java browser plugin available for installation by 9.04 instances yet?
[01:22] <ethana2> I'm trying to decide whether or not to test this alpha and if so, which images to get
[01:23] <RAOF> Yes, and yes.
[01:23] <ethana2> YES
[01:23] <DanaG> Frankly, I like having the separation nspluginwrapper gives me.
[01:24] <DanaG> Even on a 32-bit install... I want to wrap around Flash so it can't crash Firefox.
[01:24] <ethana2> RAOF: With 9.04, I think I'm going to go both KDE and 64 bit
[01:24]  * ethana2 torrents Kubuntu x64
[01:26] <ethana2> erm
[01:26] <ethana2> Isn't the tracker supposed to seed when there are no peers?
[01:27] <ethana2> well it /should/ whether or not it's supposed to..  *downloads iso directly*
[01:46] <DanaG> Well, at places like boxtorrents.com, the tracker does not store any files -- but for a Linux distro, I'd certainly expect it to do so.
[01:51] <ethana2> perhaps I just didn't give it enough time
[01:51] <ethana2> odd, I don't think my CD drive hibernated right or something
[01:52]  * ethana2 restarts
[04:01] <maco> why would gnome autostart an application that is disabled in the sessions autostart list? this has actually been happening since intrepid, but i just realized now that tomboy's not in my autostart list, and i'm on jaunty now, so i guess i need to ask here
[05:32] <maco> ARGH! evolution hates a *specific* email. i can open any other email and be fine. try to open that one or move it to the trash or anything, and BAM it crashes
[05:32] <maco> very very reproducibly
[05:32] <crimsun> are you using your custom build or jaunty's?
[05:32] <maco> jaunty's
[05:32] <crimsun> get a bt for seb =)
[05:32] <maco> i never installed my custom build
[05:33] <maco> and it turned out that i was trying to fix somethng that was already fixed in trunk :P
[07:57] <narcarsiss> change list?
[11:07] <naught101> has anyone noticed that firefox looks crap in kubuntu jaunty?
[11:07] <naught101> I installed qtcurve and it setill looks bad
[11:07] <naught101> stil
[11:07] <naught101> still... argh
[11:29] <naught101> infact, all my gtk apps look horrible - qtcurve doesn't seem to be working....
[11:29] <naught101> brb
[13:12] <uniscript> I realise that normally debian style releases only support going from release n to release n+1
[13:18] <Hew> uniscript: and lts_release n to lts_release n+1 :-)
[13:48] <rsk> games are extremly slow after the latest update
[13:49] <rsk> where should i start to investigate
[13:49] <RAOF> What card?
[13:49] <rsk> 9100 pro
[13:49] <rsk> http://pastebin.com/m472a9bc3
[13:49] <rsk> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R200 QM [Radeon 9100]
[13:51] <rsk> RAOF: xv in mplayer works fine
[13:51] <rsk> so dunno where it's pinching
[13:51] <RAOF> I'd guess mesa :)
[13:52] <rsk> i guess but that was not update in the last batch
[13:52] <rsk> updated*
[13:58] <rsk> a bug report is fine too?
[14:09] <rsk> i guess Boo.
[14:34] <BUGabundo> quick question
[14:35] <BUGabundo> how do I change the language, in the terminal, for the next app startup?
[14:35] <BUGabundo> I would like to launch gnucash in portuguese, while the system is English
[14:38] <loic-m> in a terminal, type export LANG="XX_XX.UTF-8"
[14:38] <loic-m> where xx_XX correspond to the locale you want
[14:39] <BUGabundo> thanks
[14:39] <loic-m> then launch the app from this terminal (you can also create a script with the same command and make a shortcut to it)
[14:39] <loic-m> xx_XX note xx is lowercase, XX upercase
[14:40] <BUGabundo>  WARN <Gtk> Locale not supported by C library. 	Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[14:40] <BUGabundo> export LANG=PT_pt.UTF-8
[14:41] <loic-m> pt_PT.UTF8
[14:41] <BUGabundo> ok
[14:41]  * BUGabundo chanching
[14:41] <loic-m> first is language, second is contry
[14:41] <loic-m> you can put everything on the same command line, separate with ;
[14:42] <BUGabundo> got it
[14:42] <BUGabundo> bug gnucash is only partilly translated!
[14:42] <BUGabundo> let me check brazil
[14:42] <BUGabundo> br_PT would work?
[14:43] <BUGabundo> nope
[14:43] <BUGabundo> wrong localle
[14:43] <loic-m> pt_BR maybe, please re-read my comments ;)
[14:44] <BUGabundo> eehh
[14:44] <BUGabundo> stupid me
[14:44] <loic-m> just connect using the locale you want and type locale in a terminal
[14:44] <BUGabundo> it works
[14:45] <BUGabundo> and a lot more translated
[14:45] <loic-m> Check you installed the language support fully, update, and if some bits are untranslated that mean you can contribute ;)
[14:47] <BUGabundo> I know! I've done a few translations my self
[14:47] <BUGabundo> I have full language support installed
[14:48] <BUGabundo> I always check that... specially for new users
[14:48] <loic-m> I tried to do a bit in launchpad, but never understood how to get them included/accepted/whatever
[14:48] <BUGabundo> because of that bug with installer and 1st boot/update
[14:48] <BUGabundo> that nevers installs the languages
[14:48] <BUGabundo> I think its almost fixed for Jaunty
[14:48] <BUGabundo> but Ibex still suffers from it
[14:50]  * BUGabundo can't find that bug on LP
[14:53] <rsk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/309991
[15:25] <papul> hi. is jaunty=9.04
[15:25] <rsk> papul: ya
[15:26] <papul> rsk, have you tried it.
[15:27] <rsk> no im using it
[15:27] <BUGabundo> I'm using it too
[15:31] <papul> rsk, any bugs?
[15:31] <rsk> i have one bug
[15:31] <rsk> 309991 on launchpad
[15:31] <BUGabundo> only one'
[15:31] <BUGabundo> ??
[15:32] <rsk> yes i only have one bug in jaunty
[15:32] <BUGabundo> lucky you
[15:32] <BUGabundo> what is it?
[15:32] <rsk> the one i said i had
[15:32] <BUGabundo> bug 30991
[15:32] <rsk> no
[15:32] <rsk> bug 309991
[15:32] <rsk> missed a 9 )(
[15:33] <BUGabundo> lol
[16:24] <rsk> any channel where i can get bugs triaged?
[16:28] <charlie-tca> #ubuntu-bugs
[17:21] <legodude> hi everyone, I may be doing something stupid but when I try to install nvidia-glx-180 I get a huge list of packages that are to be removed
[17:21] <legodude> and it doesn
[17:21] <legodude> and it doesn't strike me as correct
[17:22] <rsk> legodude: type apt-get upgrade in a terminal and pastebin the output
[17:23] <legodude> http://pastebin.com/d1f3a2fde
[17:23] <legodude> I did an upgrade from intrepid to get to jaunty
[17:23] <legodude> so I don't know if that is causing any problems
[17:23] <rsk> oh
[17:24] <rsk> should be fine.
[17:24] <legodude> let me pastebin from trying to install the nvidia drivers
[17:26] <legodude> okay, that link should have the output
[17:26] <legodude> it may be correct, it just feels wrong to me
[17:32] <Turl> hi
[17:32] <Turl> any new features to be included in jaunty?
[17:32] <rsk> Turl: no we skipped features this time around ;:)
[17:33] <Turl> didn't get what you said :p sorry but I'm not a native speaker
[17:38] <loic-m> Turl: Xorg will be dropped in favour of a text-only mode, which will ba an evolved console that can even run Gimp with ASCII-Art. It should solve most of the problems people have with graphic cards, monitors and Linux
[17:38] <loic-m> s/ba/be
[17:38] <rsk> =)
[17:38] <Turl> loic-m: what a good joke ;)
[17:39] <loic-m> no more Gnome/KDE problems. Amaroks run great. And we won't have to care about Flash bugs anymore
[17:39] <Turl> :p
[17:39] <rsk> compiz an asci. yey
[17:39] <Turl> any possibility of including 6
[17:39] <rsk> in*
[17:39] <Turl> 64bit flash* in jaunty?
[17:40] <rsk> there should be Turl
[17:40] <rsk> now that it's released a while ago
[17:40] <Turl> I'm not using jaunty, but I think it would be great if you included it
[17:41] <Turl> I'll fill in a bug for it's inclusion if you confirm me it's not already there rsk
[17:41] <rsk> let me search for it
[17:41] <Turl> install flashplugin-nonfree and check which version it fetches
[17:42] <rsk> i'm on x86_32 so that won't do any good
[17:42] <Turl> hm I se
[17:42] <Turl> see*
[17:46] <legodude> is nvidia-glx-180 the correct package for nvidia jaunty drivers?
[17:54] <Turl> I've reported it
[17:54] <Turl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/310031
[17:55] <hubuntu> nice bug  number ;)
[17:57] <Turl> yep :p
[17:58] <Turl> bug #310013 is better though
[18:36] <crimsun> Turl: uh, please check the current jaunty source package _before_ filing
[18:37] <crimsun>   * New upstream release (LNX 10,0,15,3).
[18:37] <crimsun>   * Support native 64bit flash plugin (LNX 10,0,21,1):
[18:37] <crimsun>     http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[18:37] <crimsun>   * debian/postinst: switch to SHA1 sums, handle alternate unpack dir.
[18:56] <loic-m> crimsun, do you have any idea if the package will reach Intrepid, or if it's just a matter or dl the source/rebuild else?
[19:00] <crimsun> loic-m: you could always request a backport
[19:10] <Daemonik> With Ubuntu, OpenOffice has the ability to export files as fodt (flat XML) files. A vanilla copy of OpenOffice from Sun doesn't do this. Where is the functionality for this added (source code)? What looks like is the CVS repo for Flat XML on OpenOffice.org is empty. :-\
[19:14] <MarkTraceur> Hi all so er um I...broke my laptop....
[19:14] <MarkTraceur> It ran out of juice in the middle of upgrading to Jaunty...
[19:15] <MarkTraceur> I really just need to figure out how to restart the upgrade with apt-get, anyone know how?
[19:17] <MarkTraceur> The wiki says sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list ; sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, but what do I add to my sources?
[19:18] <cwillu> MarkTraceur, sources will still be the jaunty sources if the upgrade got that far before it crashed
[19:19] <MarkTraceur> So I can just run the dist-upgrade and it should start from the beginning?
[19:19] <cwillu> I believe so
[19:20] <cwillu> I'd expect your sources.list to have a bunch of jaunty's showing instead of intrepid
[19:21] <loic-m> crimsun: I don't really want a backport, just to know if i can make a package easily myself if I want to try it (then maybe ask for a backport if it's really good?). I prefer to ask for bp only when stuff doesn't work
[19:24] <crimsun> loic-m: in that case you could just use the jaunty package directly, but why don't you test the backport procedure? it helps everyone and not just you.
[19:28] <MarkTraceur> cwillu: The sources look like they are jaunty, and I know something is not working because KDE won't start, but the dist-upgrade won't work
[19:30] <MarkTraceur> apt-get check doesn't turn anything up either
[19:38] <cwillu> MarkTraceur, "won't work"?
[19:49] <loic-m> crimsun: I've already a backport request pending (wacom-tools), and I'd rather get that one done than start a backport request for something that's just due to a geecky desire to try sthing new ;)
[19:50] <crimsun> loic-m: it's not as if one can't file multiple backport requests
[19:50] <crimsun> at least those two are orthogonal
[19:51] <loic-m> crimsun: Yes, but then I'd request 1000 backports because I want to try Jaunty ;) (and I'm actually going to try it, just need to burn the iso now. I won't mind requestiong the bp for flash if ppl are interested, but as for wacom first I need to see if it build and try if there's no regressions
[19:55] <MarkTraceur> cwillu, it doesn't do anything...it says there's one package to *not* be upgraded but that's not helpful at all.
[20:20] <loic-m> crimsun: the flashplugin-nonfree packages build fine for Intrepid. I've opened Bug #310061 and attached the .dsc, .changes and amd64/i386 packages. The amd64 works for me.
[20:26] <cwillu> MarkTraceur, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (or kubuntu-desktop, whichever)
[20:27] <MarkTraceur> OK
[20:27] <MarkTraceur> I have to head out but I'll start that now
[20:27] <MarkTraceur> Thanks
[20:38] <manzur> hello
[20:38] <manzur> what is the topic in here (jaunty jackalope?
[20:40] <loic-m> that's it. Usually with a bit of mustard
[22:01] <CarlFK> aptitude build-dep transcode did its thing. so why do I get: dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libgtk1.2-dev liblzo-dev dpatch