[15:01] <mschemerii> Good Morning, everyone!
[15:01] <cody-somerville> Morning! :)
[15:02]  * cody-somerville stretches.
[15:02] <charlie-tca> morning :-)
[15:02] <vinnl> Good afternoon ;-)
[15:02] <jeromeg> hey everybody
[15:02] <cody-somerville> I hope Jim hasn't gotten got caught up in the winter weather
[15:03] <j1mc> hi all
[15:03] <vinnl> Speaking of the devil :)
[15:03] <j1mc> sorry i'm late  :)
[15:03] <cody-somerville> \o/
[15:03] <vinnl> Wow, everybody;s here :)
[15:03] <JPohlmann> Morning ;)
[15:03] <j1mc> morning :)
[15:03] <JPohlmann> Just woke up, it's 4pm
[15:03] <j1mc> heh
[15:04] <mschemerii> just woke up, myself... 10am
[15:04] <cody-somerville> JPohlmann, still on California time? ;]
[15:04] <j1mc> hi mschemerii
[15:04] <JPohlmann> cody-somerville: Kinda, yeah
[15:05] <mschemerii> Hi Jim
[15:05] <mschemerii> Anyone else need some coffee?
[15:05] <charlie-tca> got mine; 8 am :-)
[15:06] <j1mc> i do
[15:06] <j1mc> shall we get started?
[15:06] <vinnl> I need it but can't drink it :P
[15:06] <cody-somerville> Sounds splendid! :)
[15:06] <vinnl> Yeah
[15:06] <cody-somerville> j1mc, do you want to chair?
[15:06] <knome> sorry.
[15:06] <vinnl> Just in time :)
[15:06] <knome> :)
[15:07] <j1mc> cody-somerville: sure
[15:07] <knome> fire it up
[15:07] <j1mc> so, topics for today: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[15:08]  * cody-somerville wonders if we should use moot bot
[15:08] <j1mc> let's get started with a recap of outcomes from UDS.  cody?
[15:08] <j1mc> I would, but I don't think this meeting is "on the fridge"
[15:08] <cody-somerville> It is
[15:08] <j1mc> #Startmeeting
[15:08] <cody-somerville> I added it :]
[15:08] <MootBot> Meeting started at 09:08. The chair is j1mc.
[15:08] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[15:09] <j1mc> all right, we are in motion now then
[15:09] <j1mc> #topic - updates from UDS
[15:09] <cody-somerville> I think it is: [TOPIC]
[15:09] <j1mc> [TOPIC] Updates from UDS
[15:09] <MootBot> New Topic:  Updates from UDS
[15:10] <cody-somerville> Alrighty, I guess I'll go first.
[15:11] <cody-somerville> Unfortunately I didn't get to participate in the all the great sessions as much as I would have liked on a count of being sick most of UDS, a close friend dying while I was down in San Francisco :(, and being busy with OEM Services stuff. However, from the sessions I did participate in and the time I was able to spend with the folks from the Xubuntu community, I'd say overall it was a very productive get together.
[15:11] <cody-somerville> We discussed a number of import issues, built friendships, got a better understanding for how each other work (specifically with regards to Xfce4, thanks to Jannis for making the long trip), and fleshed out some ideas for Jaunty
[15:11] <cody-somerville> *important
[15:12] <cody-somerville> Among our accomplishments at UDS, we: fleshed out a first draft roadmap for Jaunty, discussed artwork for Jaunty
[15:12] <cody-somerville> discussed how to grow the Xubuntu community, and plans for xfce 4.6 in Jaunty
[15:13] <cody-somerville> The jist of our discussions are documented in gobby documents at gobby.ubuntu.com
[15:13] <cody-somerville> I'm hoping to turn them into specs (or get people to volunteer to turn them into specs)
[15:14] <cody-somerville> If nobody has any questions, I'll pass the floor to knome
[15:15] <mschemerii> question
[15:15] <j1mc> knome: i know we talked some about artwork and such
[15:15] <cody-somerville> mschemerii, shoot :)
[15:15] <mschemerii> I find nothing at gobby.ubuntu.com... can you point me to a how to so I can access it properly?
[15:15] <knome> Ok, I'll start recapping now:
[15:15] <JPohlmann> mschemerii: You'll have to use the gobby editor
[15:16] <mschemerii> ok... thanks... sorry to interrupt
[15:16] <JPohlmann> mschemerii: And then connect to gobby.ubuntu.com:6522
[15:16] <knome> I think it was really great to meet the guys at UDS and we definitely were productive. Also it was nice to get in touch with the Ubuntu community in general to make some connections with other artists and teams which might be able to help us.
[15:17] <knome> Even if Cody wasn't available all times, we got work done and things going forward - and fast.
[15:17] <knome> Next one?
[15:18] <j1mc> Sure - we also had a meeting about xubuntu and xfce documentation.
[15:19] <knome> (I have to leave in 15mins, but I will be back later, hopefully before the session ends.)
[15:19] <j1mc> The Xfce user guide wasn't fully updated for Xfce 4.4, and will need to be updated for 4.6
[15:19] <j1mc> JPohlmann suggested pooling people together from different distros to work on the Xfce 4.6 user guide.
[15:20] <JPohlmann> And the end user docs for applications like xfce4-settings.
[15:20] <j1mc> We discussed having a session on IRC where xfce developers could outline how the components of Xfce work together to build the desktop environment
[15:20] <j1mc> to help orient potential documentors
[15:20] <jeromeg> as a side note, I sent a patch a few days ago to update the xfdesktop documentation
[15:21] <j1mc> jeromeg: woot.  :)  we had discussed what could be done to get the docs into a consistent state
[15:21] <j1mc> for ppl to work on them
[15:21] <j1mc> and how these docs might integrate with Xubuntu system docs
[15:22] <j1mc> . . . so that's my doc discussion recap
[15:22] <JPohlmann> Ok
[15:22] <JPohlmann> Guess it's my turn then
[15:22] <cody-somerville> (j1mc, I'd be interested in seeing a follow up meeting for those interested in Xubuntu documentation and the into-distro collaboration on xfce4 docs)
[15:22] <cody-somerville> ( j1mc, can you take that action item )
[15:23] <j1mc> cody-somerville: me, too - ok.  I invited mschemerii here - he's interested in working on xubuntu docs
[15:23]  * cody-somerville nods.
[15:23] <cody-somerville> JPohlmann, sorry for interrupting :)
[15:23] <JPohlmann> It's ok ;)
[15:24] <j1mc> [ACTION] Jim follow-up on xubuntu-doc meeting
[15:24] <MootBot> ACTION received:  Jim follow-up on xubuntu-doc meeting
[15:25] <JPohlmann> The session about how components work together was intended to be some kind of kick-off session, but maybe we should create a schedule where we first have a generic kick-off session, then a session to explain how things work together and then a session on how to organize the team etc.
[15:25] <JPohlmann> I guess Jim and I could work that out.
[15:26] <j1mc> JPohlmann: sounds good.
[15:26] <j1mc> do you think it would be better to hold that meeting on #xfce?
[15:28] <JPohlmann> Haven't thought about that yet
[15:28] <j1mc> ok
[15:28] <jeromeg> we could even create a xfce-dev channel ?
[15:28] <jeromeg> oups
[15:28] <jeromeg> xfce-doc
[15:28] <knome> (I'm leaving now, I'll be back ASAP.)
[15:28] <JPohlmann> See you Pasi
[15:28] <cody-somerville> (gak, we're almost 30 minutes into the meeting, we need to hurry up!)
[15:28] <j1mc> yah
[15:28] <JPohlmann> Ok
[15:28] <JPohlmann> Then let me just recap
[15:30] <JPohlmann> So, first of all it was great meeting (almost) everybody and being able to discuss face-to-face. I think after the docs session, we have a rough idea in mind on how this collaboration could work at least. I'm really hoping that we can form a joint team for that.
[15:32] <JPohlmann> One thing that clearly needs more discussion is *how* we want the documentation to be written and with which technologies.
[15:32] <JPohlmann> We also discussed the main complaints in Xubuntu and how to solve them for jaunty, like disappearing panels, non-fd.o-compliant menu, samba/network browsing in Thunar etc.
[15:32] <j1mc> non-fd.o-compliant menu.  :(
[15:32]  * j1mc glares at menu
[15:32] <j1mc> :)
[15:33] <j1mc> anything else, JPohlmann
[15:33] <JPohlmann> I think NCommander started to backport Xfce 4.4.3 to intrepid I think.
[15:33]  * cody-somerville nods.
[15:34] <JPohlmann> And the idea to port the user switcher applet to the xfce panel came up. Not sure who's going to work on that though ;)
[15:34] <JPohlmann> I guess that's it.
[15:34] <JPohlmann> j1mc: The menu issue is already solved by having a fd.o-compliant menu implementation in Xfce 4.6.
[15:34] <cody-somerville> Awesome \o/
[15:34] <JPohlmann> (Even though it's not feature-complete)
[15:34] <j1mc> :)
[15:34] <j1mc> anything else on UDS?
[15:35] <jeromeg> guys, I need to leave in a second, just want to say a word about xfce4-screenshooter
[15:35] <jeromeg> if you guys agree ?
[15:35] <j1mc> sure
[15:35] <cody-somerville> jeromeg, sure :)
[15:35] <jeromeg> I'm maintaining it since august
[15:35] <jeromeg> cody told me you consider it for inclusion in jaunty
[15:35] <jeromeg> please tell me in you have any thoughts/requests/bug reports on this app
[15:36] <jeromeg> I'll release a new version around the 5 of January
[15:36] <jeromeg> featuring a "select a region feauture"
[15:36] <jeromeg> and copy to clipboard
[15:36] <jeromeg> + full documentation + interface cleanup
[15:36] <j1mc> jeromeg: sounds good!
[15:36] <jeromeg> that's all, I'm done :)
[15:36] <JPohlmann> Wow
[15:37] <jeromeg> thanks to David Collins, a user who submitted some great patches !
[15:37] <j1mc> :)
[15:37] <jeromeg> (xubuntu user btw ;) )
[15:38] <cody-somerville> w00t
[15:38] <j1mc> anything else on this, jeromeg or cody-somerville ?
[15:38] <jeromeg> nope
[15:38] <j1mc> next topic?
[15:38] <cody-somerville> I'd just like to give jeromeg a big kudos for maintaining that app :)
[15:38] <cody-somerville> j1mc, sounds good
[15:38] <jeromeg> got to go, see you guys, that was a pleasure
[15:38] <j1mc> +1 for jeromeg - see you!
[15:38] <j1mc> [TOPIC] Jaunty xubuntu-team meeting schedule
[15:38] <MootBot> New Topic:  Jaunty xubuntu-team meeting schedule
[15:39] <j1mc> how often do we want to have these meetings during this cycle?
[15:39] <j1mc> once a month?
[15:39] <cody-somerville> I propose an official meeting monthly
[15:39] <cody-somerville> but I encourage sub-teams to get together as often as they'd like
[15:40] <cody-somerville> and I definitely encourage spontaneous meetings in #xubuntu-devel when ever people fancy :)
[15:40] <j1mc> that sounds good to me.  anyone else?
[15:40] <JPohlmann> I agree with Cody
[15:40] <charlie-tca> +1
[15:40] <j1mc> Would Saturdays generally work for everyone?
[15:41] <cody-somerville> Yea, I think as long as we get reminders out
[15:41] <JPohlmann> Depends on the time. Sunday afternoons are usually better for me.
[15:41] <vinnl> Depends
[15:41] <cody-somerville> lol
[15:41] <cody-somerville> :P
[15:41] <vinnl> Same here
[15:42] <j1mc> move them to sundays then?
[15:42] <vinnl> +1
[15:43] <j1mc> We'll move them to Sundays and see how things work.  I'll try to avoid major holiday weekends.
[15:43] <JPohlmann> Sounds fine
[15:43] <j1mc> next topic then :)
[15:43] <j1mc> [TOPIC] Finalize Jaunty roadmap
[15:43] <MootBot> New Topic:  Finalize Jaunty roadmap
[15:43] <cody-somerville> Okay
[15:43] <cody-somerville> knome was nice enough to update the wikipage for us
[15:44] <cody-somerville> So please take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap
[15:44] <JPohlmann> We definitely need more subpages for the bigger items like "Implement Xfce 4.6".
[15:44]  * cody-somerville nods.
[15:44] <JPohlmann> We can also move some content from the gobby documents there.
[15:45] <cody-somerville> JPohlmann, agreed
[15:45] <cody-somerville> Here are the main objectives I currently propose for Jaunty:
[15:45] <cody-somerville>  * Grow the Xubuntu Community (xubuntu-community)
[15:45] <cody-somerville>  * Refresh distro artwork (xubuntu-artwork)
[15:45] <cody-somerville>  * Update the documentation via improved collaberation with Xfce doc team (xubuntu-xfce-documentation)
[15:45] <cody-somerville>  * Implement Xfce 4.6 (xubuntu-xfce)
[15:45] <cody-somerville>  * Thunar Improvements: Implement Samba Browsing & Thunar meta-data pane
[15:45] <cody-somerville>  * Port user switcher applet to the Xfce panel
[15:46] <vinnl> Hmm, there's some deprecated specs ther
[15:46] <vinnl> *e
[15:46] <JPohlmann> I can probably move the content and create status tables and whatnot.
[15:46] <cody-somerville> vinnl, such as?
[15:47] <vinnl> The website thing
[15:48] <cody-somerville> Where do you see website stuff?
[15:49] <j1mc> "Xubuntu Website Plan"
[15:49] <mschemerii> Specifications
[15:50] <j1mc> cody-somerville: re: samba - are you considering modifying thunar, and pushing changes upstream?
[15:50] <cody-somerville> j1mc, there is already a patch for thunar
[15:50] <j1mc> also, have you seen the newly-proposed xfce app to assist with mounting shares?
[15:50] <cody-somerville> j1mc, and the patches are upstream
[15:50] <j1mc> ok
[15:50] <cody-somerville> j1mc, however, the samba patch won't be accepted
[15:50] <cody-somerville> but JPohlmann is working on gio for Thunar
[15:51] <cody-somerville> so we'll drop our samba patch once thats done
[15:51] <cody-somerville> and I'm packaging sion for Ubuntu right now
[15:51] <mschemerii> the goodies project has thunar-shares-plugin
[15:51] <JPohlmann> Which is probably after jaunty.
[15:51] <cody-somerville> yup
[15:51] <cody-somerville> mschemerii, there is another patch too :)
[15:51] <cody-somerville> mschemerii, (for browsing)
[15:51] <j1mc> sounds good, cody-somerville.  thanks for clearing that up.  i didn't know the status on those items
[15:51] <JPohlmann> That's what we can put on a subpage for "Thunar improvements"
[15:52]  * cody-somerville nods.
[15:52] <cody-somerville> Okay, so if folks can indicate their general approval of the listed main objectives via +1 or +0 it would be greatly appreciated. I'll make a decision later today and mail the xubuntu-devel ml.
[15:53] <mschemerii> +1
[15:53] <charlie-tca> +1
[15:53] <vinnl> +!
[15:53] <vinnl> *+1
[15:54] <j1mc> I don't see anything objectionable in there.  :)  +1
[15:54] <cody-somerville> +1
[15:55] <j1mc> I have some community ideas - I'll add them to the community wiki page, and will also link to some of my doc roadmap stuff from that page.
[15:55] <JPohlmann> +1
[15:55] <j1mc> moving on, then?
[15:56]  * cody-somerville nods.
[15:56] <j1mc> [TOPIC] Xubuntu QA/Testing Lead Candidate Charlie Kravetz
[15:56] <MootBot> New Topic:  Xubuntu QA/Testing Lead Candidate Charlie Kravetz
[15:56] <JPohlmann> \o/
[15:56] <j1mc> +1 \o/
[15:57] <charlie-tca>  /me too \o/
[15:58] <cody-somerville> charlie-tca, :)
[15:58] <cody-somerville> charlie-tca, It is understood that you'd like to take on the responsibility of leading Xubuntu QA/Testing efforts. Is this correct? :)
[15:58] <charlie-tca> it is correct.
[15:58] <JPohlmann> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G_YueJ8Wos
[15:58] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G_YueJ8Wos
[15:59] <cody-somerville> charlie-tca, could you tell us about your experience working on QA and Testing efforts in the Ubuntu and Xubuntu community?
[15:59] <JPohlmann> Big la ola for charlie ;)
[16:00] <charlie-tca> I am a member of bugsquad and bug-control. I have been in the top 5 for bug triage the last 2 months
[16:00] <cody-somerville> :D
[16:00] <j1mc> w00t!!
[16:00] <vinnl> JPohlmann, omg, over-synchronising really _can_ ruin even the best shows :P
[16:00] <cody-somerville> charlie-tca, how would you rally the community to help triage Xubuntu bugs and test image candidates?
[16:00] <charlie-tca> I did a lot of testing for the intrepid release, and found 3 major bugs before the final release
[16:01] <JPohlmann> vinnl: True ;)
[16:01] <charlie-tca> We need to hold regular bug days and testing days for xubuntu
[16:01] <charlie-tca> The ones we had for intrepid were very successful.
[16:02] <charlie-tca> The bug triage is very manageable right now, with less than 100 triaged
[16:02] <charlie-tca> no, to be triaged
[16:02] <vinnl> Mostly thanks to your hard work :)
[16:03] <charlie-tca> We show 52 testers in launchpad, I need to get them more involved in testing before the releases
[16:03] <mschemerii> right on...
[16:03] <cody-somerville> charlie-tca, what do you think about starting a 5-a-day bug team?
[16:03] <mschemerii> ;)
[16:04] <charlie-tca> I don´t know if that will work. Some people will feel preasured to get 5 no matter what, and that defeats the purpose of it
[16:04] <charlie-tca> Perhaps we should discuss it though.
[16:05] <charlie-tca> If it will help keep the bugs triaged, we should work on it.
[16:05] <charlie-tca> Also, we have many confirmed bugs that should be sent upstream
[16:05] <j1mc> charlie-tca: i noticed that you updated the xubuntu-testing wiki pages the other day - it's great that you are getting things in sync with the ubuntu QA team
[16:06]  * cody-somerville nods.
[16:06] <charlie-tca> Yes, I'm still working on them. I would like to have the long format testing become extended tests from the qa page
[16:06] <JPohlmann> I have to leave in a few minutes, so just for the record: Brian is planning to add the launchpad integration to the Xfce bugzilla.
[16:06] <cody-somerville> charlie-tca, Getting the wiki up2date with test cases and what not I think would be a key objective for someone taking on this role. Do you agree charlie-tca?
[16:06] <cody-somerville> JPohlmann, w00t
[16:07] <charlie-tca> yes. They need considerable work yet.
[16:07] <charlie-tca> I have updated the QA test cases already
[16:08] <charlie-tca> It makes it much easier to make sure the pre-release is really ready for the users
[16:08] <j1mc> we're kind of getting into our next topic area (QA Efforts for the Jaunty cycle)
[16:08]  * cody-somerville nods.
[16:08] <cody-somerville> I think we can all agree charlie-tca will do a great job
[16:08] <JPohlmann> Yes
[16:08] <j1mc> definitely
[16:09] <cody-somerville> charlie-tca, Would you accept the role of the Xubuntu QA Lead?
[16:09] <charlie-tca> Yes, gladly
[16:09] <j1mc> w0000t  :)
[16:09] <JPohlmann> I've made a note to move contents from the gobby documents to the roadmap subpages. Leaving now. See you guys!
[16:09] <vinnl> \o/
[16:10] <j1mc> later, JPohlmann
[16:10] <vinnl> Bye\
[16:10] <j1mc> +1111ONE!ONEWON1 for charlie-tca
[16:11] <cody-somerville> :)
[16:11] <cody-somerville> Welcome to the team charlie-tca
[16:11] <vinnl> ^^What he said :)
[16:11] <charlie-tca> Thanks. I will do my best!
[16:11] <j1mc> :)
[16:11] <cody-somerville> charlie-tca, Can you please pm me your launchpad id?
[16:11] <mschemerii> \0/
[16:12] <charlie-tca> Okay
[16:12] <j1mc> next topic then.  :)
[16:12] <j1mc> [TOPIC] Discuss QA efforts & plans for Jaunty cycle
[16:12] <MootBot> New Topic:  Discuss QA efforts & plans for Jaunty cycle
[16:12] <cody-somerville> Few ideas I have include:
[16:12] <j1mc> charlie-tca and cody-somerville :)
[16:12] <cody-somerville> 1. Have a list on the wiki with people we know can do certain tests
[16:13] <cody-somerville> So that we can bug them easily to do them :)
[16:13] <cody-somerville> 2. charlie-tca should accept the action item of sending reminders to the mailing list about the upcoming dates where we'll need to get tests done for a release.
[16:14] <charlie-tca> good idea
[16:15] <cody-somerville> 3. charlie-tca should send an e-mail to the ml about how to subscribe to certain tests (a feature provided by the iso qa tracker)
[16:15] <j1mc> cody-somerville: i think that the ubuntu-qa site also sends out email reminders about tests that testers can sign up for
[16:15]  * cody-somerville nods.
[16:15] <j1mc> still, it would be good to have a bit more advance notice via the ML
[16:16] <cody-somerville> j1mc, maybe we can setup an account on it and put the ml as the address
[16:16] <cody-somerville> that way the list gets notified automagically :)
[16:16] <charlie-tca> I think qa don´t remember good
[16:16] <cody-somerville> charlie-tca, hmm
[16:16] <cody-somerville> ?
[16:16] <j1mc> true - but we only get updated on the day the test gets requested - on testing day
[16:16] <cody-somerville> okay
[16:17] <cody-somerville> j1mc, I think we should put the dates into a google calendar too
[16:17] <cody-somerville> that way I can get sms reminders :)
[16:17] <charlie-tca> I subscribe to the tests, etc, but they don´t send reminders out on time
[16:17] <j1mc> :)
[16:17] <cody-somerville> charlie-tca, maybe you can work with the QA team to get that fixed
[16:17] <cody-somerville> that would be awesome
[16:18] <charlie-tca> Okay, I´ll do that
[16:18] <j1mc> [ACTION] charlie-tca sends out email notices to remind about testing
[16:18] <MootBot> ACTION received:  charlie-tca sends out email notices to remind about testing
[16:18] <j1mc> [ACTION] charlie-tca check with ubuntu-qa team to make sure auto-reminders get sent out on time
[16:18] <MootBot> ACTION received:  charlie-tca check with ubuntu-qa team to make sure auto-reminders get sent out on time
[16:19] <j1mc> [AGREED] charlie-tca will be super-awesome as xubuntu-qa and testing lead
[16:19] <MootBot> AGREED received:  charlie-tca will be super-awesome as xubuntu-qa and testing lead
[16:19] <j1mc> :P
[16:19] <vinnl> +1 :P:
[16:19] <cody-somerville> charlie-tca, is there any tools or infrastructure that we could whip up to make stuff easier for you?
[16:20] <cody-somerville> charlie-tca, thinking now about both iso testing and bug triage
[16:20] <j1mc> good question, cody-somerville
[16:20] <charlie-tca> Not that I can think of. I'm still learning some of the tools. I would like qa´s traker expanded for us.
[16:20] <charlie-tca> I need to work with them on that.
[16:21] <j1mc> charlie-tca: are there any bookmarks you have set in your browser to help you perform searches for bugs at a certain status that are particular to xubuntu packages?
[16:21] <j1mc> the ubuntu-bugjam page has a set of links to launchpad searches.  maybe we could put up similar links on the xubuntu wiki.
[16:21] <charlie-tca> Yes, many. The two biggest are the Xubuntu packages, and all new bugs with xubuntu in them
[16:22] <charlie-tca> I'm hoping to do that, j1mc
[16:22] <charlie-tca> I have to work the bug triage wiki page yet
[16:22] <cody-somerville> charlie-tca, what do you think about making the xubuntu-testers team moderated? Giving you a queue of people to get in contact with and ensure they know what they need to do to help so that they can?
[16:23] <charlie-tca> That could work
[16:24] <charlie-tca> Right now there is no approval needed, but I don´t think most of those signed up do testing on the iso
[16:24]  * cody-somerville nods.
[16:24]  * j1mc nods
[16:24] <cody-somerville> charlie-tca, if thats something you'd like to do, feel free to do so
[16:24] <charlie-tca> Many are running the release, and just making updates
[16:25] <charlie-tca> I'll give it some thought
[16:25] <mschemerii> It would be great to know what specific things need/want testing in both Intrepid and Jaunty
[16:26] <cody-somerville> I think thats where the test cases come in
[16:26] <mschemerii> for Xubuntu, that is
[16:26] <j1mc> when i sent out notes to the xubuntu-users mailing list requesting help with testing, i usually got a decent response
[16:26] <cody-somerville> I think we need to make them more prominent and easier to find
[16:26] <charlie-tca> That´s why I´m working the wiki page
[16:26]  * cody-somerville nods.
[16:26] <j1mc> :)
[16:26] <vinnl> Dinner time here
[16:27] <j1mc> anything else on xubuntu-qa for now?
[16:27] <charlie-tca> I want people to find the test cases from Xubuntu wiki, not by knowing the qa website
[16:27] <vinnl> Don't think I'll be back before the end of the meeting, so good luck with it :)
[16:28] <j1mc> thanks for being here, vinnl
[16:28] <charlie-tca> I´m done now
[16:28] <j1mc> cody-somerville - anything else?
[16:28] <cody-somerville> We're now at 1.5hrs so I think we should wrap up
[16:28] <j1mc> quickly then
[16:28] <j1mc> [TOPIC] Team updates (Packaging, Bug Triage, Development / Coding, Testing, Documentation, Artwork)
[16:28] <MootBot> New Topic:  Team updates (Packaging, Bug Triage, Development / Coding, Testing, Documentation, Artwork)
[16:28] <cody-somerville> One thing I'd like to say to everyone
[16:29] <cody-somerville> j1mc charlie-tca mschemerii gpocentek JPohlmann knome jeromeg etc. etc.: Please be sure to update the monthly team report in time each month! :)
[16:30] <j1mc> cody-somerville: ok
[16:30] <cody-somerville> We'll finish up the agenda at the next meeting :)
[16:30] <mschemerii> cody-somerville: ok
[16:30] <j1mc> sounds good.  :)
[16:30] <charlie-tca> cody-somerville: okay
[16:30] <cody-somerville> I'll write an e-mail to the list to recap this meeting
[16:30] <cody-somerville> and to announce other initiatives for Jaunty
[16:30] <j1mc> thanks for making it, everyone
[16:30] <cody-somerville> \o/
[16:30] <cody-somerville> Indeed
[16:31] <cody-somerville> Thanks everyone!!
[16:31] <j1mc> #endmeeting
[16:31] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 10:31.
[16:32] <knome> duh
[16:33] <j1mc> :)
[16:33] <mschemerii> Hey Jim
[16:33] <mschemerii> nm... he left ;)