/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/12/20/#xubuntu.txt

PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnif I transfer the HD to this computer00:00
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnxubuntu runs perfectly00:00
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnjust doesn't like the other PC00:00
PsynoKhi0USB HD?00:00
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnnope00:00
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnIDE00:00
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnthe other PC wouldn't accept USB to boot from00:01
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnso transfered the hd over00:01
charlie-tcaUse the same cable?00:01
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAndisabled the main HD of this PC, then installed00:01
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnno00:01
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnI'll try another cable00:01
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAngot a few hanging about00:01
PsynoKhi0you installed on one PC and transfered to the other keeping the same config on different hardware?00:02
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnyes00:02
PsynoKhi0well...00:03
PsynoKhi0how old is the PC that keeps crashing?00:04
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnabout 4 years00:05
PsynoKhi0and the one you installed Xubuntu on?00:05
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnAMD athlon 12000+ 256mb PC2100 RAM00:05
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnthats about 1 1.500:05
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnboth installed with XP00:05
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnis it worth trying to get the disk burned00:06
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnand installing from that00:06
PsynoKhi0yup00:06
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnI'll try it again00:07
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnnero was being an arse when I tried burning it earlier00:07
PsynoKhi0I'm running Xubuntu 8.04 on a K6-2 500 with a PCI gfx card00:07
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnneed to format the disk before hand??00:07
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnor will it install over the top00:07
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnI DL the latest one 8.1000:08
Neffhello00:08
Neffwhere do i setup a dial-up connection in xubuntu00:08
Neffi don't see the option in the network connections for modems00:08
PsynoKhi0no need to format, PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn00:08
Neffor after i install my modem driver do i need to restart connection manager?00:09
PsynoKhi0Neff: look for  "ppp" in Synaptics00:09
Neffwell i'm installing kppp00:09
Neffit seems to have found my driver00:09
PsynoKhi0Neff: ok00:10
Neffit says "configuring alsa-driver-linuxant00:10
Neffis that right?00:10
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnhave to admit I was impressed with ubuntu/xubuntu when I installed them prior00:10
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnconnected straight through to the web with no issues at all00:10
PsynoKhi0Neff: not sure, never used dial-up :)00:10
PsynoKhi0PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn: one thing that could mess up is having your vid card proprietary drivers enabled00:11
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnno vid card00:11
PsynoKhi0especially if the new comp has PCI-E and the old one as AGP00:11
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnboth spec computers are onboard graphics00:11
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnah00:11
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnthat is the case00:11
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnhave been meaning to get a graphics card for this PC for quite a while00:12
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnit also needs a ram upgrade00:12
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnbut money is never going spare for someting like that00:13
PsynoKhi0did you install from a live cd?00:15
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnno00:15
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnUSB00:15
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAntried burning the CD00:16
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnbut it wasn't booting on any of the PC's00:16
PsynoKhi0checked the md5sums first?00:16
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn??00:16
PsynoKhi0md5 checksums, to ensure the Xubuntu installation your d/led wasn't corrupt00:17
PsynoKhi0btw, no need for nero to burn iso, there's a neat little freeware for windows taking care of just tat00:18
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnnero is being a bitch tonight anyway00:19
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnwont open up00:19
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnok00:19
PsynoKhi0http://www.imgburn.com/00:19
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAngot the checksums page from where I downloaded it00:19
PsynoKhi0when you asked about formatting the HD, is there only xubuntu on it?00:20
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnyes00:21
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnall xd300:21
PsynoKhi0then yup, format it :)00:21
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn(I think that was the format anyway00:21
PsynoKhi0ext3?00:21
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnyeah00:21
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnthats the 100:21
PsynoKhi0how big is the swap partition?00:21
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn839mb00:22
PsynoKhi0ok00:22
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn256mb of physical ram00:22
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnwatching it on system monitor its usually running about 50% physical ram00:23
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnnot touching the swap partition00:23
PsynoKhi0did you do a memtest?00:23
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnyes00:23
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnthat came back fine00:24
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnpassed all of them00:24
PsynoKhi0so xubuntu's running on the older system atm?00:24
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnBTW, thanks for the assistance. not at this very moment, its shut down00:24
PsynoKhi0ok00:25
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnbut it was 20minutes ago00:25
PsynoKhi0np00:25
PsynoKhi0does it reboot spontaneously?00:25
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnyeah00:25
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnothertimes though it just freezes up00:25
PsynoKhi0do you get the GRUB menu at start up?00:27
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnyes00:28
PsynoKhi0so you can choose recovery mode?00:29
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnwhen it was the kernel 2.6.27.7 I did remove the "quiet splash" and put noapic in its place, and it ran a bit more stable that way00:29
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnyes00:29
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnbut that tended to freeze up00:29
PsynoKhi0ah...00:29
PsynoKhi0good good00:29
PsynoKhi0noapic nolapic pci=noacpi00:30
PsynoKhi0those tend to help on older hardware00:30
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnit allowed me to download one of the linux updates00:30
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnbut didn't keep it stable for a huge amount longer00:30
PsynoKhi0did it crash during update?00:31
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnyes00:31
PsynoKhi0uh oh00:31
PsynoKhi0don't bother, start fresh00:31
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnwill do00:31
moontigeris it possible to ask a question about the default 8.10 theme?00:31
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAngo on??00:32
PsynoKhi0no, this isn't a help channel00:32
PsynoKhi0:P00:32
PsynoKhi0j/k00:32
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAngonna have to make the colours on xchat stand out more00:32
moontigerhe ok wow had me worried there for a minute00:32
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnswore that was you asking me....00:32
PsynoKhi0don't ask to ask, just ask :D00:33
PsynoKhi0whether you'll get an answer or not is another matter but...00:33
skymebillhello00:34
PsynoKhi0PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn: btw any dust build up in there?00:34
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAna bit00:34
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAngot most of it out00:34
PsynoKhi0even the PSU?00:34
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnvacuum though00:34
PsynoKhi0oh00:34
moontigerok so...00:34
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnran it over the heatsink00:34
moontigeri have 8.04 and am happy with it mostly00:35
moontigerbut the 8.10 has better nm and stuff00:35
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnits a newer heatsink than the computer anyway00:35
moontigerso i hear00:35
moontigerbut i really dont like the default themes that come with it00:35
PsynoKhi0moontiger: better support for 3G modems AFAIK00:35
skymebillone ask...00:35
skymebill i have a CORE 2 DUO E8400 with 4 gb ram... i need swap partition??00:35
moontigerso i'm prolly better staying with 8.04 then no?00:36
PsynoKhi0skymebill: desktop or laptop?00:36
skymebilldesktop00:36
Odd-rationalemoontiger: yeah, you can stay with 8.04. it is LTS.. so...00:36
moontigerok cool thnx00:36
moontiger:)00:36
Odd-rationaleskymebill: how big drive?00:36
Odd-rationalemoontiger: what about the theme of 8.10 you don't like?00:36
skymebill250gb00:36
moontigerOdd-rationale, it sounds dumb but the menu indicators ... the ">" things look so ugly00:37
Odd-rationaleskymebill: swap wouldn't hurt... you will need it if you wnat to hibernate00:37
PsynoKhi0moontiger: change the Gtk theme00:37
moontigercan i make 8.10 look the same as 8.04?00:37
Odd-rationalemoontiger: well. you can get the old gtk theme from 8.04 and use it in 8.10...00:37
moontigeri can?00:37
PsynoKhi0Settings, user interface00:37
moontigeri tried that but then i get diff colors00:38
skymebillOdd-rationale ok thanks :)00:38
Odd-rationalemoontiger: you can probably find the theme in /usr/share/themes/00:38
moontigerok cool thank you00:38
moontiger:)00:38
PsynoKhi0skymebill: is it a laptop computer?00:38
Odd-rationaleskymebill: as you probably know, the swap parition/file should be bigger than your ram... at least 1.5*00:38
Odd-rationalePsynoKhi0: desktop ^00:39
PsynoKhi0ah crap sry missed the line00:39
Odd-rationale:)00:39
* PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn bbonline in a few minutes00:39
PsynoKhi0well I have 2GB RAM, 1GB swap on  my desktop... it's almost a waste of disk space, butt hen again it depends on your usage00:40
PsynoKhi0I don't think I've seen it going over a few megs of swap usage00:41
PsynoKhi0512MB swap on a desktop is fine for everyday use IMO00:41
PsynoKhi0and I keep on jabbering but no one answer my question... what about MY needs dangit? :P00:42
PsynoKhi0cat /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf <- anyone?00:43
Odd-rationalePsynoKhi0: what happenned to yours?00:44
Odd-rationaleif i were on a ubuntu system, i would pastbin mine... but you can probably find one on the livecd...00:44
PsynoKhi0it's just a long line on my Xubuntu Hardy computer, but a long file on my main system with Ubuntu00:45
PsynoKhi0the xubuntu hardy old geezer can't get any IP from my ISP00:45
PsynoKhi0the /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.xxx.leases show the DHCP server IP to my former ISP, not quite right00:46
PsynoKhi0and unless they have locked my MAC addresses somehow I ca't see why the xubuntu box can't find it's way out00:47
PsynoKhi0/etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf on the xubuntu box has nothing but the "request ........." part00:48
PsynoKhi0all on a single line00:48
Odd-rationalewell, i don't use dhclient, so can't help much there...00:49
PsynoKhi0argh don't go make coffe now!!!00:49
PsynoKhi0ah00:49
Odd-rationaleyou already tried dhclient -k eth0. or whatever the command is?00:49
PsynoKhi0-k? uh don't think so00:49
Odd-rationalei don't remember the exact command...00:49
PsynoKhi0-r ?00:50
PsynoKhi0bbl00:54
r00tlhow do i fix the 'unable to resolve host MYHOSTNAME'00:58
Odd-rationaler00tl: can you ping say google.com for example?00:59
Odd-rationaleping -c 3 google.com00:59
r00tlnegative.00:59
Odd-rationaleis /etc/resolv.conf empty?01:00
r00tl`ping: unknown host google.com'01:00
r00tlno it has search Belkin, nameserver 192.168.2.1 domain MSHOME01:00
Odd-rationaler00tl: can you ping 74.125.45.100 ?01:01
r00tlthis is a wired connection, cable is good tried on other PC01:01
r00tlsays ping 74.125.45.100 56(84) bytes of data but nothing after indicating that it's working like normal01:03
Odd-rationaleif you can't ping an ip address, then it is probably your connection...01:04
r00tli recently changed the host name, but it seems via /etc/hosts, and resolv.conf that it's changed...so i don't see the issue.01:04
r00tlthe file /etc/network/interfaces shows auto lo eth0 and iface eth0 inet dhcp01:05
Odd-rationaler00tl: are you using networkmanager?01:05
Odd-rationaledoes it say you are connected?01:05
r00tlterminal mostly.01:06
r00tlit says manual network configuration when i hover over it.01:06
r00tlif it's using DHCP, should roaming mode be turned on?01:07
Odd-rationaletry "sudo dhclient -r eth0" then "sudo dhclient eth0"01:07
r00tlsecond is on DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 with intervals of 7, 13, 1801:09
r00tlno DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping01:10
Odd-rationaler00tl: obviously, your machine cannot connect to the router...01:10
r00tlso then it must be a setting if i can take the same cat6 cable and plug it into my lappy, and it works fine wired...01:11
Odd-rationaler00tl: can you revert the hostname change?01:12
r00tli can go through history and look for the change...but what if i did it via network manager?01:12
Odd-rationaler00tl: well, i don't use network manager, so i can't really speak there...01:13
r00tlor applications>system>network01:13
diginuxI just reinstalled xubuntu because I got a new harddrive, now my monitor is dim and the Fn key combo wont change the brightness, is there is an app to change laptop monitor brightness?01:27
diginuxi see displayconfig-gtk isnt in intrepid..01:28
R1cochetcheck power manager01:30
R1cochetapps>settings>settings manager01:30
R1cochetscreen saver> power mangagement01:31
diginuxthere is no power manager in the settings manager01:31
diginuxohh screen saver01:31
R1cochetyea01:31
R1cochetu can add it to apps>settings if u like01:31
diginuxyeah, i did have it in ther ealready01:32
diginuxim going to try to reboot01:32
diginuxit didnt seem to take effect01:32
diginuxever since ibex my power settings have been really weird01:32
R1cochetdid u check all the tabs?01:32
diginuxlike if i suspend my machine, then close the lid during the susend, the suspend doesnt finish until i open the lid again01:32
diginuxi think there might be some buggy acpi issue going on01:32
R1cochettheres a fix 1 sec01:33
R1cochethttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58595301:34
R1cochetscroll down to jlovell_esd189's post towards the bottom01:35
R1cochetor u can get xscreensaver01:35
R1cochethavent used xscreensaver tho01:37
R1cochetbut i know adding gnome-screensaver to auto started apps works01:37
diginuxyay, brightness back01:38
diginuxmy guess is it got dimmed when i unplugged and just got stuck being dimmed01:38
diginuxi use xf4lock01:38
R1cochetdid u change options for running on battery?01:38
diginuxwhich uses xscreensaver, right?01:38
diginuxyeah, i changed the option01:38
diginuxand rebooted01:38
diginuxnow time to unplug power and test01:38
* PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn brb01:38
diginuxcool, seems to still work01:39
R1cochetare u using gnome or xscreensaver?01:39
diginuxR1cochet: i think its xscreensaver, i use xlock to lock my screen which uses xscreensaver, i think01:40
R1cochetdid u install xscreen?01:41
diginuxumm yes01:41
diginuxi had to01:41
diginuxso yeah, it probably uses that01:41
diginuxwhich reminds me01:42
diginuxxubuntu doesnt install xlock by default01:42
diginuxwhich is weird01:42
diginuxbecause xf4lock uses it01:42
diginuxit should be dependent01:42
diginuxnow time to fix my hanging boot issue01:47
digitalnormwould xubuntu be a good environment for me to use so i can have more memoryfor audacity (which is dragging in ubuntu gnome)?01:49
R1cochetdiginux: do u have screensaver matrixview in xscreensaver?01:50
diginuxR1cochet: i might, but i always use blank, why do you ask?01:50
R1cochetbecause i have it on gnome-screensaver but it doesnt show in xscreensaver, and the file is still where it should be01:51
Shaba1hello can anyone tell me how I install something that cam in a bz2 file02:11
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnis it usual to have a black screen with the cursor on it for long periods during the instalation of xubuntu02:46
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn-bash: /usr/bin/groups: input/output error02:49
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnubuntu@ubuntu:~$02:50
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnis that going to be a problem02:50
ballhello zoredache02:58
=== ball is now known as ball_
xubuntu_newbieanyone home???03:13
diginuxyes03:13
xubuntu_newbiegreat03:14
xubuntu_newbiegot an issue with printing an oo that i can find inforums...03:14
* PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn is off, giving up on this linux lark for tonight03:14
ballyep03:15
xubuntu_newbieoo prints real smalll in top corner...preiview looks great...03:15
xubuntu_newbiemy work around is to export as pdf and print in print preview mode ....then it prints full page...03:15
xubuntu_newbietestprint on printer looks good...03:16
xubuntu_newbieanyone hear of something similar...03:16
ballfirst thought off the top of my head is that the printer's in a higher resolution mode than the software thinks ...and everything's being printed as graphics for some reason.03:16
ball...perhaps.03:16
xubuntu_newbiehow would i ck that...newbie to linux...03:17
xubuntu_newbieprinter installed in cups03:18
ballNo idea.  I'm somewhat new to Linux myself.03:18
xubuntu_newbiesetting says ¨normal¨ print03:18
xubuntu_newbiewell...guess I´ll keep looking elsewhere....nite03:21
* ball shrugs03:24
Guest18134hello03:27
ballhello03:27
Guest18134I'm looking for an advanced user with way too much patience to help with a VIA driver install. I am three days into ever using ubuntu or any linux os for that matter03:29
Shaba1welcome03:29
Shaba1new linux user myself03:29
Guest18134thanks :)03:30
ballWhat device are you having trouble with?03:30
Shaba1as of about 3 weeks agaon03:30
Guest18134my video/audio chipset03:30
ballWhich VIA board?03:30
Shaba1that is going to be a problem03:30
Guest18134hmm chrome 903:30
Shaba1I have the via/s3 chip myself and I had a heck of a time finding a driver03:31
Shaba1try www.openchrome.org03:31
Shaba1I wish I could tell you all the things I had to do to get it to work03:31
Shaba1but it was a struggle and a blur03:31
Guest18134hehe03:31
ballPeople in #unichrome may be able to help with the X driver03:31
ball...or in X.org03:31
ball#xorg I mean03:31
Shaba1and it still does not do opengl well03:32
Shaba1blender looks sick on it03:32
Guest18134tried xcorg can get it to go pas the keyboard stuff03:32
ballShaba1: are you using open source drivers?03:32
Shaba1the ones I got from that site I mentined03:32
Shaba1mentined03:32
Shaba1but I had a heck of a time getting them installed03:33
Guest18134I only have the drivers that come with the xubuntu distro03:33
ballShaba1: okay, that'll be the open source driver03:33
Guest181348.1003:33
ballI'm told it works best with the older VIA chipsets, at least if you want 3D support03:33
Shaba1I am not going to risk it.03:34
Guest18134I did find the uncompiled drivers at via but have no idea how to implement them or should I try a package from openchrome03:34
Shaba1I took me forever to get beyond a 640X480 screen03:35
Guest18134that's where I'm at03:35
Shaba1if it ain't broke do not try to fix it03:35
Guest18134no sound either03:35
Guest18134where do I enter in the info to register my nic ball?03:36
ballGuest18134: try /msg nickserv help03:36
Guest18134in the terminal?03:37
ballGuest18134: you still haven't told us your board.03:37
ballGuest18134: in your irc client03:37
Guest18134oh how would I determine that03:37
ballGuest18134: Not a computer you built then?03:37
Guest18134nope03:37
ballI forget that people buy computers whole03:38
Guest18134everex stepnote03:38
Guest18134I dont intend to again lol03:38
ballokay, give me a minute to fire up my Web browser03:38
Guest18134it's the one with all of the via stuff rather than the intel chipset03:38
ballI need a model number too03:39
ball(printed on the bottom?)03:39
Guest18134zonbu03:39
ballThat's a model number?!03:40
ballAh, that's got a C7 in it I think03:41
ballhello mschemerii03:41
ballGuest18134: do you have a manual for it?03:42
Guest18134nope03:42
Guest18134but I can look up the hardware in it03:42
ballYeah... need model numbers03:43
ball(e.g. CLE266(03:43
ball))03:43
Guest18134Graphics: VIA Chrome9 HC IGP03:43
Guest18134VIA C7-M03:44
Guest18134hmm03:44
ballGuest18134: what chipset though?03:44
Guest18134I could crack it open and take a look at the board?!?03:44
diginuxwhat does lspci say03:46
Guest18134lspci?03:47
diginuxGuest18134: do you know how to open a terminal?03:47
diginuxif so03:47
diginuxtype lspci then enter03:47
Guest18134k03:47
diginuxit will tell you all the devices attached to your computer03:47
Guest18134http://paste.ubuntu.com/88961/plain/03:49
Guest18134I think that should be it03:49
Guest18134hmm I think I need to fix a drink brb03:50
ballOkay, give me a minute to look up the unichrome info for that03:50
Guest18134k03:51
diginuxmmm03:51
diginuxi could use a drink03:51
Guest18134am back03:52
Guest18134I suggest it03:53
Guest18134I'm in seattle wa and we are having an Ice issue here right now everything is closed down03:54
* ball nods03:54
ballI drove through an ice storm today too03:54
ballGuest18134: I'm asking in #unichrome, but haven't got an answer yet.03:58
Guest18134I think i've found the right drivers from via bu I dont know how to compile them or install them03:59
ballYou probably shouldn't try04:01
Guest18134ok04:01
Guest18134hmm04:02
ballGuest18134: there's probably a binary package for it if it's not shipped by default with Xubuntu04:04
Guest18134ok I'm guessing then it's just finding the package?04:04
* ball nods04:04
ballhang on04:04
Guest18134no worries I'm super patient the issue till now has been finding someone else who is hehe04:05
ballOh, hang on, I've got that Synaptic thing04:06
ballLet me look in there.04:06
cody-somervilleGuest18134, what is your problem?04:06
Guest18134trying to install via drivers for my audio video chipset04:07
ballcody-somerville: does Xubuntu ship with OpenChrome drivers?04:08
cody-somervillexserver-xorg-video-openchrome ?04:09
cody-somervilleXubuntu ships with it04:09
Guest18134I do still have the xubuntu cd I used to do my install04:10
ballcody-somerville: does he have to do anything special to activate it?04:14
Guest18134oh i found that in synaptic04:15
Guest18134hmm04:15
Guest18134let me know if that's the one I need to install04:15
ballIf it's not installed, install it and reboot.04:15
Guest18134ok I'll log back in and let you know how it goes04:16
ballok04:16
ballGood luck.04:16
cody-somervilleball, no, should just work04:18
ballOh well, hopefully that'll work for him.04:19
Guest53878hello again04:25
Guest53878I still seem to be having trouble with the whole log on thing04:25
Guest53878it's the guy with the via issue04:26
Guest53878so I marked the open chrome package for re-installation and have applied and rebooted04:27
Guest53878still stuck with the bad res :(04:28
ballwhat's up with the log-on thing?04:28
Guest53878I'm not sure what I'm doing *blush04:28
* ball sighs04:31
ballWhere do you live?04:32
Guest53878seattle04:32
Guest53878wa04:32
cody-somervilleGuest53878, My guess is that you need to do this:04:32
cody-somervillesudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh04:32
Guest53878copy and paste both lines into the terminal?04:33
Guest53878xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration04:35
Guest53878   file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2008121920345004:35
Guest53878yeppers04:37
Guest53878hmmm04:39
cody-somervillesudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart04:40
ballThis is pissing me off: I'm trying to mount my iPod in such a way that my ordinary user account can write to it.04:41
cody-somerville!ipod04:41
ubottuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod04:41
ballcody-somerville: I just want to mount the thing04:44
ball...and then save files to it.04:44
ballit's vfat, but each of the folders on it shows up as 75504:44
Odd-rationaleball: how are you mounting?04:44
Sinister`( System: Linux 2.6.27-9-generic on Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz )( Bogomips: 12553.11 )( Memory: total: 3260.7 MB used: 569.3 MB [||||||||||] )( Disks: total: 742.7 GB used: 40.9 GB [||||||||||] )( Uptime: 12h 45min 28s )( Load avg: 0.00 0.00 0.00 )( Vpenis: 238.4 cm )( eth0: Rx: 7.0 MB [38 B/s] Tx: 2.3 MB [35 B/s] )( CPU Temp: 27.0°C )04:44
ballmount -t vfat /dev/sdb2 /mnt/ipod04:44
Odd-rationaleball: as root?04:44
Odd-rationale(sudo)04:45
ballOdd-rationale: yes04:45
Odd-rationaleball: that's your problem...04:45
Guest38286hello all04:45
ballXubuntu doesn't seem to want to let me run mount as me.04:45
lu6ciferIs there a way to disable the annoying icon appearance on the xubuntu desktop?04:45
Odd-rationaleball: try "pmount /dev/sdb2"04:45
Odd-rationaleball: might have to install pmount first...04:45
ballwhy doesn't mount work though?04:46
Guest38286cody that code sent me to black screen static04:46
Guest38286hehe04:46
lu6ciferI'm talking about how the text under the icons are all shaded04:46
cody-somervilleGuest38286, oh wonderful04:46
cody-somervilleGuest38286, try again but without the -phigh04:46
Odd-rationaleball: because you are running mount as root.04:46
Odd-rationaleball: pmount uses hal.04:46
Guest38286could you give me the first part again04:46
ballOdd-rationale: seems unneccesarily hard on Xubuntu.04:46
cody-somervillesudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:47
ballif I mount it as root, but grant ownership to ball, why wouldn't it work?04:47
Odd-rationaleball: thunar uses hal too... so you could use thunar as well...04:47
* cody-somerville is going to go watch a movie, bbl04:47
Odd-rationalecody-somerville: see ya!04:47
Odd-rationaleball: how did you grant onership to ball?04:48
ballchown ball {everything in sight}04:48
Odd-rationaleball: no, it doesn't work that way...04:48
Odd-rationaleuse thunar or pmount04:49
ballUgh.04:49
ballok04:49
ballif I must04:49
Guest38286ok I ran xorg but was only asked about keyboard related things04:50
Guest38286never got to the video part04:50
Guest38286not sure why04:50
ballGuest38286: xorgconfig ?04:51
Guest38286sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:51
ballError: device /dev/sdb2 is not removable04:52
Guest38286?04:52
ballGuest38286: that's not what I was suggesting04:52
Guest38286k04:52
Guest38286as for the open chrome package it is currently installed04:53
ballGuest38286: any improvement in your graphics?04:54
Guest38286nope still no other resolution options in display either :(04:54
ballDid you ask in #xorg?04:55
Guest38286um?04:55
Guest38286I'm not sure how I would go about that04:56
ballGuest38286: try "/join #xorg" in your irc client04:56
Guest38286k I'll give a try in there04:57
Antwortis anyone able to help me with a video problem?05:09
AntwortI have random green and black stripes in my display05:09
Antwortthey just pop up and then go away05:10
lu6ciferis there a way to remove the weird desktop icon shading?05:11
Antwortwhich ubuntu you running?05:12
lu6ciferxubuntu05:15
lu6ciferyou know what I'm talking about, though?05:15
XFCEntrallu6cifer, you mean that halo around the text?05:16
lu6ciferyea05:16
XFCEntralhmm05:16
lu6ciferdo you think it's possible?05:18
XFCEntrallu6cifer: so far i havent seen a way to change it... but i may be mistaken05:19
lu6ciferoh well, it's not that important05:21
XFCEntrallu6cifer: sorry! :/05:21
XFCEntrallu6cifer: follow this link for instructions http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t573919.html05:22
XFCEntralthat should solve it05:23
Guest38286.05:31
Guest38286hello05:43
dios_mioif i accidentally delete my taskbar, how can i bring it back?06:13
diginuxdios_mio: look in the xfce settings manager06:14
diginuxlook at the panel manager06:14
diginuxand use the + button to add a panel06:15
dios_miothanks06:16
roccityidentify faith101806:49
roccityls06:49
Guest38286hi ball07:06
ballhello07:06
balldoes lspci mention anything to do with sound?07:06
Guest3828604:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA High Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10)07:08
ballinteresting07:09
Guest38286should it not be recognized if it's not working?07:09
ballNo idea.07:10
ballHave you checked your mixer settings?07:10
Guest38286master pcm and digital are turned up all the way07:11
ballWhat about DAC?07:11
Guest38286I've tried testing with an audio cd and wmv off the net.. no sound for either07:12
Guest38286dac07:12
Guest38286not listed in the mixer.07:12
Guest38286the source btw is set to "stereo mixer"07:13
balldid you turn up the Do you have a slider for CD?07:13
Guest38286no cd slider07:14
ballThen it's not surprising you didn't have audio07:14
ballI have to go to bed now.  I can no longer keep my eyes open.07:15
Guest38286get some rest. thanks for your time tonight07:16
ballno problem.07:16
balldon't forget #ubuntu-us-wa07:18
Sinister`whats  npviewer.bin08:46
Sinister`anyone know that hp prtogram for scanning and printing with the all in one  ?10:03
AizawaHolding down ALT+Clicking inside a window makes me able do drag around the window, but I want to disable this (Because it screws up playing games), how can I do that?11:18
AizawaI've checked in keyboard settings where most of the shortcuts are, but couldn11:18
Aizawacouldn't find it11:18
AizawaSomeone please help11:33
TheSheepAizawa: window manager tweaks in settings11:36
Aizawaawwright, thanks.11:36
TheSheepAizawa: second tab (or third) iirc11:37
Aizawaokay11:37
TheSheepthird11:37
medoctronhi, what do you think is the best burning program for xubuntu 8.10? i used k3b before, but i get an error when i try to install it11:52
kurtwhen i click on sound in setting manager i just get things to check no volume control11:55
kurtanybody... please?11:57
medoctronkurt: is it possible to change the device?11:58
medoctronand whats your sound device?11:59
medoctron<-- eating, will be back soon12:00
kurtvia8235 but i don't know what that is12:05
medoctronback12:19
medoctronis it possible to select the device?12:19
medoctronin the list in settings12:19
kurtmedoctron yes i can change to that device but in usefull controls i only have the option to check or uncheck.  no volume slider12:22
kurti have no volume control12:27
prestonive tried sidux xfce and zenwalk and now xubuntu, it seems that xubuntu uses more ram than the other is that to be expected?12:45
prestonbut to me it feels just as fast and fluid12:45
prestonanyone?12:49
kurti have 500Mb ram 1500mhz processer it works fine don't know much about other distros12:52
prestonsorry i dont mean it as a criticism kurt i was just looking for a xfce distro and was doing a bit of compare and contrast12:55
TheSheeppreston: it's to be expected, xubuntu starts a lot of services just to make things work out of the box12:57
kurtTheSheep how can i tell what services i can shut down just to get a little extra13:00
prestonunderstood thesheep it does feel the most full featured13:01
kurtpreston: giving the only info i could i'm new to this13:03
TheSheepkurt: there are some howtos on the Net13:03
TheSheepkurt: for example, if you don't have a printer, you can stop cups13:04
kurti uninstalled the printer packages13:04
kurti'll check it later just thought i'd ask13:05
TheSheepI think from system->services, only dbus is critical13:05
kurtk thanks that helps13:05
TheSheepit's good idea to leave the logging and at least one scheduler daemon (anacron is lighter)13:06
TheSheepacpid is also a good thing to have enabled13:06
prestonsorry i cant be of more help kurt stuff like thats still a bit beyond me and i wouldnt want to give bad advice13:06
TheSheepof course gdm if you want it to boot to graphical environment13:07
TheSheepalthough you can use other graphical managers, googling for 'replace gdm xubuntu' should help here13:07
TheSheepremoving unused plugins from panels will help too13:08
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnat what point would you give up trying to install xubuntu13:08
prestonthesheep does xubuntu use some gnome stuff as well which may make it a tad heavier13:08
TheSheepPsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn: depends on the trouble you face13:08
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnI got it running badly (kept crashing)13:08
kurtcan you tell me how to change the volume. i don't have that option in settings13:08
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnbut that was by putting the hard disk in another maching and installing it13:08
TheSheeppreston: pidgin uses some gnome libs, as well as listen13:08
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnthen transfering the hard disk back13:09
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAntried using the boot disk, and it wont install13:09
prestonkurt you should have a volume app in the upper right corner?13:09
TheSheepPsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn: what did you have in logs when it crashed?13:09
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnI?O error13:09
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn*I/O13:09
prestonbad burn maybe??13:10
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnthough the PC froze up completely13:10
TheSheepkurt: you can right-click on the panel, select 'add item' and then drag-and-drop the volume control plugin somewhere  on your panels13:10
kurtnope :)13:10
TheSheepPsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn: hardware problem then13:10
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnverified on the PC that burned it13:10
TheSheepPsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn: ah, it froze during install?13:10
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnchecked the disk on the other pc (check disk option)13:10
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnyes13:10
TheSheepPsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn: verify on the same pc on which you tried to install13:10
TheSheepPsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn: some old cd drives ave trouble reading cds burned with high speeds13:10
TheSheephave*13:11
prestonkurt go to applications/settings/settings manager13:11
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnit was a DVD-RW13:11
prestonvolume should be there as well13:11
kurtTheSheep: thanks i didn't know i could do that13:11
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnthing that annoys me most, is I've had it running flawlessly on this PC13:11
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnthe other one is an older PC maybe 4years old or so13:12
prestondo cd iso's work on dvd-rw's?13:13
TheSheepPsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn: try burning it with lower speed13:13
TheSheepPsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn: yes13:13
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnAMD Athlon 1200+ 256MB PC2100 DDR RAM 20GB Seagate Barracuda HDD13:13
kurtpreston: i tried that first and there was no volume control just check boxes13:14
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnhwereas the newer PC is13:14
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnAMD Athlon 64 3200+ (1.9GHz) 512MB PC3200 DDR RAM, 160GB HDD13:14
prestonoops kurt your right13:15
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnthe only thing is it booted of the CD first time13:20
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnbut when I tried installing it it then started playing up13:20
prestonthanks for the feedback guys im out for now13:24
TheSheepkurt: I think recompiling the kernel and only including the modules/drivers you really need would improve efficiency dramatically, but that's a very advanced topic13:26
kurtTheSheep: not ready for that13:28
TheSheepyeah13:28
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnshould I download 8.04 instead, and see if that runs on the older PC??13:29
TheSheepit's more trouble than it's worth too, ram is cheaper than time ;)13:29
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnyeah13:29
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnI've put the last 2 days into trying to get this thing to run13:29
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnI plan on shoving 2GB into this machine, so will then shove the 512 stick into the other13:30
TheSheepPsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn: you get the ioerrors when trying to run the installer from cd, or when trying to run xubuntu that you installed on other computer and then replaced the disk?13:31
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnthough given the minimum requirements are supposed to be 128 would have expected it to be ok on 25613:31
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnfrom the CD13:31
TheSheepPsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn: if it's the former, try burning thei nstall cd again, but with the lowest speed possible13:31
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnwhen I did it before it was just prone to crashing13:31
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnwould run but occasionally froze up or spontaniously rebooted13:31
TheSheepwell, prone to crashing doesn't really tell much, without the actual errors from the logs13:32
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnI found a few of the fault messages14:01
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn-bash: /usr/bin/groups: input/output error14:01
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnubuntu@ubuntu:~$14:01
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn{ 273.488689} Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempting to kill init!14:01
TheSheepPsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn: ouch, sound like a corrupted disk14:01
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn-/init: line 231: cant open /root/dev/console: no such file14:01
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn{ 273.488689} Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempting to kill init!14:01
TheSheepPsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn: or some trouble with the disk controller14:01
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnand a whole list of of errors above which I didnt attempt to type out14:02
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnthe thing that puzzles me is that the other hard disk worked in the other machine14:02
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnand the other machine rread and ran the XP disk from the 1 I'm using currently14:03
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnalbeit very slowly14:03
TheSheepmight be the cable or the controller14:04
TheSheepor some bios settings14:04
TheSheepor even incompatibility of the kernel with the disk controller, if you are really unlucky14:04
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnthat sounds rather likely given how it works with the other machine14:05
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAnI tried suse 9.2 and had similar problems14:05
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cody-somervilleA Xubuntu Developer meeting will be starting in 5-7 minutes in #ubuntu-meeting. Everyone is welcome to join and participate.14:56
lu6ciferI'm running ubuntu with xfce desktop---whenever I start up ubuntu, it says something about starting up without administrative privileges, and then I close it, and synaptic starts up15:42
lu6ciferAny ideas how to fix this?15:42
cody-somervillehmm?15:45
charlie-tcaYou need to save a session with Synaptic not open15:47
lu6ciferBut I don't have synaptic open, and I don't save sessions15:48
charlie-tcaWhen you restart or shutdown, save the session. Synaptic will quit opening and the message will not appear15:48
charlie-tcasynaptic starting up is what is giving the message about admin privileges15:49
lu6ciferok15:52
lu6ciferI'll try that15:52
lu6ciferThanks15:54
lu6ciferit worked15:54
lu6ciferbut does what if I uncheck15:54
lu6cifer'save session'15:54
lu6ciferwill the message show up on future sessions?15:54
charlie-tcaIt won´t save the open windows on shutdown and restart if you uncheck it.15:54
charlie-tcaIf it is checked, it saves the open windows15:54
charlie-tcaAs long as you don´t have synaptic open when shutting down or restarting, it won´t give the message.15:55
lu6ciferok15:56
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stevenwanyone else have trouble with mouse themes?16:32
stevenwthey seem not to work with swiftfox and my taskbar16:33
stevenw:-(16:33
ElcMawrhello... please can anyone tell me how to make xubuntu boot up in GUI mode? Perhaps I shouldn't have installed it in 'text only' mode, I don't know...16:45
ElcMawrbasically, there's no window manager running16:46
cody-somervilleElcMawr, What are you presented with at boot?16:46
ElcMawrtext login16:46
cody-somervilleAre you at the computer right now?16:46
ElcMawryes, just restarting16:46
ElcMawri installed using 'text only' mode, does this refer to the installation, or the ultimate functioning?16:47
cody-somervilleElcMawr, Did you install with the Xubuntu alternative CD, Xubuntu desktop CD, or the Ubuntu Server CD?16:47
ElcMawrAlternative.16:47
ElcMawri thought this one would work with the majority of awkward old laptops.16:48
ElcMawrok it's booted up16:48
ElcMawrand just sits there in command line mode.16:49
ElcMawri guess the 'alternate' installation was the wrong choice16:51
cody-somervilleno16:53
cody-somervilleIt should work just fine16:53
cody-somervilleCan you login?16:53
ElcMawryes, have done that.16:57
ElcMawram playing around with cmd line, no probs.16:57
ElcMawrjust cant see how to make it boot up X (ir isnt it xfce)16:57
cody-somervilledo this:16:58
cody-somervillesudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart16:58
ElcMawrcommand not found!16:59
ElcMawrgdm just isnt there16:59
ElcMawrNB. This is version 6.06.17:00
cody-somervillehow do you know gdm isn't there?17:02
cody-somervillewhat does the following command return: which gdm17:02
ElcMawra) there's no man page, b) i can't find it.17:02
ElcMawr"which gdm" results in nothing.17:02
cody-somervilleIt looks like you installed the server cd instead of Xubuntu alternative17:03
cody-somervilledo this:17:03
cody-somervillesudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop17:03
ElcMawrok, thanks, i'll give that a go!17:04
ElcMawrsee you soon17:16
cody-somerville:]17:16
likemindeadHello. Anyone able to help me upgrade Dapper to Hardy or Intrepid on PowerPC (and is the even possible)?17:36
charlie-tcaIt should be possible, but I don´t have a ppc. The port is here: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/releases/intrepid/release/ for Intrepid17:41
likemindeadI already have 6.06 installed because when I tried to directly install 8.10 it had problems. I read several people recommending a 6.06 install upgraded to 8.04 but I'm not quite sure how to upgrade to 8.04.17:43
likemindeadAlso found this, but I don't quite understand it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/24172917:44
charlie-tcaXubuntu does not have 8.04 for the ppc. It seems we went from 7.10 to 8.1017:44
likemindeadSo can I just do a dist-upgrade?17:45
charlie-tcaAnd that won´t be a direct upgrade from 6.06. I think you need to do a new install on it17:45
likemindeadWhat's that link I posted about then?17:45
charlie-tcalet me see17:46
likemindeadThanks.17:46
likemindeadI don't understand the patch.17:46
likemindeadOr what to do with it.17:46
charlie-tcaThat´s Ubuntu 7.10 to 8.04. Xubuntu skipped 8.0417:46
likemindeadOooohhhhh. :(17:46
charlie-tcaTake it back, Ubuntu 6.06 to 8.0417:47
likemindeadRight.17:47
likemindeadThis old iMac won't like GNOME too much. :(17:47
charlie-tca(:17:47
likemindeadMaybe I'll just stick with Xubuntu 6.06?17:48
charlie-tcaIt is good until June 2009. Then it won´t update anymore17:49
likemindeadLe sigh....17:49
charlie-tcaMaybe Jaunty will have a port? I don´t know...17:49
likemindeadThe PowerPC options are a bit limited for someone with as little *nix experience as I have.17:50
likemindeadGentoo or Debian seem to be the best, but *buntu is what I know.17:51
sinboxarghh forgot the chmod command to change user ownership again18:08
charlie-tcaOpen a terminal, type chmod --help18:18
charlie-tcasinbox: that should be chown --help for ownership18:19
sinboxoh that'll be why then, D'oh! thanks charlie-tca18:21
jonny_boy27hi guys, really n00bish question. I've just done a new install of xubuntu intrepid and my screen res is limited to 800x600, which is a bit on the low side!18:38
vinnljonny_boy27, have you tried changing the resolution from the "Display Settings" in Applications->Settings Manager?18:38
jonny_boy27i've tried doing dpkg-reconfigure x-server-xorg but it didn't prompt me to set the usable screen res18:38
jonny_boy27yeah, the maximum is "default" which is 800x60018:39
likemindeadGPU?18:39
jonny_boy27i've also poked into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and it doesn't look familiar (the last time I manually edited an xorg.conf was about 2005, though!)18:39
jonny_boy27um, it's a thinkpad T20 so i dunno18:39
likemindeadPossibly ATI.18:40
likemindeadRestricted drivers offered?18:40
likemindead(Applications-->System-->Hardware Drivers)18:40
jonny_boy27my previous install was initially installed as 6.06 and then progressively upgraded since then but it did have the correct screen res of 1024x800. i decided to do a clean install to clear out some of the cruft and now have this problem18:40
jonny_boy27no restricted drivers offered18:41
likemindeadOne second.18:41
jonny_boy27the only ones in hardware drivers is for my atheros wifi card18:41
jonny_boy27cheers guys18:41
jonny_boy27gfx card is s3 savage18:41
jonny_boy27according to lspci18:42
likemindeadsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -p high18:43
likemindeadUsually does the trick. Restart X afterwards.18:43
jonny_boy27indeed, alas it didn't for me!18:43
likemindead:(18:43
jonny_boy27indeed18:43
jonny_boy27i'll just try again18:43
jonny_boy27brb, restarting x18:43
jonny_boy27nope, that didn't work!18:47
likemindeadLame.18:48
jonny_boy27indeed18:48
jonny_boy27so what's the deal with xorg, there barely seems to be any configuration info in xorf.conf any more. I'm used to seeing declarations regarding keyboard layout, screen resolutions and other things in there18:49
likemindeadYeah. Very strange to me too. Also, uh-oh: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-savage/+question/5178018:49
jonny_boy27hmm, that doesn't look promising18:52
likemindead:-\18:52
jonny_boy27i'm just perplexed since it worked fine with my previous installation of xubuntu, but installing intrepid from scratch doesn't seem to have played nice18:52
likemindeadI still don't understand what they've done to xorg in 8.10....18:52
vinnlIt's a new version of xorg, if I'm right18:53
vinnlIt's supposed to do as much auto-configuring as possible so you (in theory) shouldn't have to edit xorg.conf anymore18:53
likemindeadBut why is it so.... empty?!18:53
jonny_boy27indeed, but surely when i dist-upgraded from hardy, it would have installed the new xorg...18:53
likemindeadNot a fan.18:53
jonny_boy27it's all very well having xorg do more stuff automatically but when the autoconfig doesn't work it'd be nice to be able to set things manually!18:54
likemindeadExactly.18:54
vinnlWell, I know next to nothing about it, but I can imagine you can still configure a lot... If only you know how to18:54
jonny_boy27i wish i'd backed up my previous xorg.conf before I re-installed :S18:54
jonny_boy27arg, this is really frustrating!19:01
vinnl!resolution19:02
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution19:02
vinnl!xorg19:02
jonny_boy27aah...19:03
jonny_boy27"While xorg.conf is largely empty these days" you can say that again!19:04
jonny_boy27"xrandr configure crtc 0 failed"19:14
jonny_boy27grrr...19:14
hobbscanyone have time to help with a wireless issue?  i've got an atheros chipset and i can't get it to work.  ndiswrapper worked great in 8.04 and i know the card works in opensuse, so i don't think it's my hardware19:34
hobbscndiswrapper doesn't seem tow ork this time and the hardware list recognizes that i have an atheros chipset19:34
hobbscer, hardware drivers19:34
hobbscit says support for atheros 82.11 wireless lan cards is active and "currently in use", but i don't see my card anywhere19:35
hobbscit's an AR242x19:35
hobbscaccording to lspci19:35
filipegattihas anyone here tried to use eclipse cdt on xubuntu 8.10?19:43
vinnlI've tried Eclipse, not sure which part CDT is19:44
filipegattii already have the latest java jre installed and yet it doesnt open my eclipse :(19:44
filipegattiCDT is C/C++ development19:44
vinnlOh, then I didn't19:44
vinnlYou have installed it using apt/Synaptic?19:44
jonny_boy27@hobbsc - you shouldn't need to use ndiswrapper with atheros19:44
filipegattino. i've downloaded it on the official website19:44
filipegattiactually you don't need to install eclipse cdt, you only need to unpack it and run19:45
filipegattiwhen i tried on ubuntu 8.10 it worked19:45
vinnlI didn't get that to work either... The version in the repos worked but unfortunately that isn't Ganymede :(19:45
vinnlNot sure how badly you need that version19:45
filipegattii'm not sure either. i just want to try eclipse. :-P19:46
vinnlThen I'd recommend you to just install it like you would install most applications in Xubuntu19:47
filipegattiusing synaptic?19:51
vinnlFor example, yes :)19:52
hobbscjonny_boy27: how can i get the card working, then?19:53
hobbscit certainly does not work right out of the box19:53
hobbscit seems to recognize that i have that type of card, because it says it's activated the driver for it and i can see it in lspci19:53
hobbscbut when i go to edit my connections, i don't see my wireless card anywhere19:53
hobbscifconfig doesn't report one either19:53
jonny_boy27ok19:53
filipegattivinnl, the version in synaptic is soooo old :P19:53
vinnlfilipegatti, I know, terrible :P19:54
jonny_boy27and left-clicking on the network symbol in the notification area (top right) doesn't show any wireless connections?19:54
jonny_boy27or right-clicking doesn't show the "enable wireless option"19:54
vinnlhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/+bug/12306419:54
vinnlOh nice, someone packaged the latest version, you could try that jonny_boy2719:55
vinnlEhm filipegatti I mean, sorry19:55
jonny_boy27no worries :P19:55
hobbscjonny_boy27: none at all19:56
jonny_boy27ah.. ok19:56
hobbscwhich is why i'm confused19:56
jonny_boy27but it is definitely listed in system_>hardware drivers19:56
hobbscit seems to see the card, and i know the card works fine in 8.04 and also in another distro19:56
filipegattivinnl, the latest version for cdt is 5.0.1 :-P19:56
vinnlAh19:57
hobbscsystem -> hardware drivers says there is a driver enabled for atheros support19:57
filipegattivinnl, what command i need to type to know if my linux is 32 or 64bit version?19:57
filipegattimaybe i've downloaed the wrong version19:58
hobbscuname -a may show that19:58
filipegattiwoot19:58
filipegattix86_6419:58
filipegattii've downloaded the 32bit version, I'll try downloading the 64 one.19:58
filipegattimaybe this will fix19:58
jonny_boy27hobbsc, I vaguely remember something about restricted drivers not installing properly from the hardware drivers tool unless you'd added the restricted repo to your sources.list, but we're not dealing with a restricted driver here....19:59
pabHello.  Where would I go to download a full set of xubuntu cd's(Hardy Heron)?  My niece doesn't have internet.20:00
vinnlpab, see xubuntu.org/get20:01
vinnlAnd it's just one CD :)20:01
pabvinnl, oh!  I thought there'd be more lol20:01
filipegattithat's why its xubuntu :P20:02
hobbscjonny_boy27: no idea, but i've posted to the forum, maybe i'll get some help there20:02
filipegattiits lightweight20:02
hobbscthe last weird thing i get is when i boot up the machine, it just hangs, but if i hold down the enter key, it starts booting20:03
hobbscdmesg doesn't report any errors20:03
pabher machine is pretty slim20:03
hobbscit's not a big deal, and it's kind of comical, but it'd be nice to know why it's doing that20:03
hobbsci just wish i could get my wireless working so i could get my display set properly and get to working with this box20:03
filipegattivinnl, it worked :-)20:10
vinnlfilipegatti, yay :)20:11
filipegattithe problem was the version20:11
hobbscjonny_boy27: an interesting note, '20:20
hobbsc'lshw -C Network' shows that the card is there, but it's listed as network UNCLAIMED20:20
hobbscwith no driver listed in the configuration20:20
jonny_boy27sorry hobbsc - i was having dinner!20:35
Guest67509hello I'm looking for some help fixing my resolution I have openchrome running my via chrome 9 chip in my laptop and have had trouble getting it configured20:36
|ntegra|hiya20:54
gabkdllyyo20:55
|ntegra|its a beautiful suniday downunder in ak, newZealand.. hows ya saturday night going?20:56
|ntegra|I'm here to ask for help with looking at the wireless driver thats installed20:57
gabkdllyplease ask your question20:57
|ntegra|xubuntu works out of the box with my laptop   (oh)   where are the drivers stored in the OS?21:00
gabkdllyi do believe you will find them by poking around in /usr/src/linux-header-*21:02
gabkdllylinux comes with a LOT of drivers out of the box21:02
|ntegra|I'm sorry that was bloody stupid I locate drivers, but I swear befor I actually entered the room I had no idea (I want to learn to install and run wireless on other linux distros too)21:03
|ntegra|there's heaps aye21:04
gabkdllyhmmm... I think I'm wrong about that, I don't actually know where the kernel looks for its modules21:05
gabkdllyah, /lib/modules/21:06
gabkdlly"modprobe -l" was helpful21:06
gabkdlly|ntegra|: you can type use "iwconfig" in a terminal in pretty much any distribution to see if your wireless device was detected properly21:07
|ntegra|cool21:09
gabkdllyyou can also use iwconfig to configure your network connection, different distros use different tools however to make such changes permanent (i.e. executed each time at boot up)21:09
gabkdllyI mean, you can pretty much use init scripts to set up your wireless network at startup in pretty much any distribution, but I have never done this myself21:10
gabkdllyat any rate, using a network manager is definitely more elegant, especially if you will be doing roaming21:11
gabkdllyit is a cold and wet night here in Berlin :)21:11
|ntegra|thats cool, hey >with "modprobe -l"  are those 'all' the kernel modules, or just the kernel modules that are 'in use'?21:12
gabkdllyall21:12
gabkdllyto see the ones in use do "lsmod"21:12
|ntegra|oh, sweet, thanx21:12
|ntegra|cold wet, stay inside with your boxen aye?21:13
gabkdllyyes :)21:13
gabkdlly|ntegra|: I am calling it a night. Come back and chat any time.  The wiki and forum are also good resources.21:17
|ntegra|cheers man, peace out21:19
jonny_boy27Still had no joy with xorg :( I've tried setting the mode in xorg.conf but that results in a parse error on reboot :<21:23
* jonny_boy27 continues drinking whisky and pulling out hair21:26
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|ntegra|woah, I definitely prefer "lshw -C network"21:39
^Alitahi to all22:48
Neffhow do i mount the network so i can browse with file manager22:48
Neffhello22:48
^Alitasomeone can help me in compiler ati's driver?22:48
cody-somerville^Alita, Absolutely not :P22:48
cody-somerville^Alita, If you want to compile ati's drivers, use gentoo :P22:49
cody-somervilleNeff, Windows Shares?22:49
^Alitai don't want to compile it22:49
Neffcody-somerville: yeah22:49
cody-somerville^Alita, what do you want to do?22:49
cody-somervilleNeff, You can try PyNeighborhood22:49
^Alitabut in all forums i've searched, it seems the only way to have the hardware aceleration activated in my laptop is to compile this drivers22:50
cody-somerville^Alita, nope22:50
cody-somerville^Alita, Click Applications > System > Hardware Drivers22:50
^Alitait didn't work22:51
^Alitabetter: every try i've done was unsuccessfully22:51
cody-somerville^Alita, Does it list your card?22:51
^Alitau have to know i've an ati rage mobility, an old card22:51
cody-somervilleThen it probably isn't supported22:51
^Alitain forume seems the mach64 driver have to work22:52
^Alitawith dri activeted22:52
cody-somervilleHow do you know dri isn't activated?22:52
cody-somervilleMaybe you just need to reconfigure your X to use the mach64 driver?22:53
cody-somervilleWe already have it compiled and installed for you22:53
^Alitai hope this. but it seem they are loaded, but don't use hardware acceleration, tested with glxinfo22:54
^Alitaat now i think i've done some mistakes, so it didn't load the drivers, but i don't know how reinstall it22:57
charlie-tcaThere is a bug for ATI Rage Mobility bug 28430922:58
^Alitait's related to xubuntu?22:58
charlie-tcahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-r128/+bug/28430922:58
charlie-tcaYes22:58
^Alitai'm opening the link22:58
charlie-tcaIt is being worked, even if it says incomplete22:59
^Alitalsmod23:01
^Alitasorry23:01
^Alitai used the wrong keyboard23:01
* charlie-tca nods23:03
^Alitathere's something wrong... yesterday direct renderig was no, like from i've installed the system. today is yes...23:04
^Alitaand i con't use higher resolution from 640x48023:05
emperorcezarI'm trying to set my caps lock to a control. I setup the xmodmaps and in xev, when I hit the capslock it returns (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), but it still doesn't work as control.23:06
charlie-tca^Alita: Isn't that what the bug is about?23:12
radiozWhy does my terminal start up full screen on each boot?23:17
radiozI dont have anything in my autostart dir.23:17
^Alitai think maybe23:20
^Alitai don't know why now the direct rendering is activated, i think it happens today in one of the steps i've followed to install the drivers23:21
^Alitanow i've to teach my laptop it can use an higher resolution23:22
^Alitai tink the trick is in the line modeline of xrog.conf23:22
^Alitai'm wrong?23:23
cody-somerville^Alita, what version of Xubuntu are you using?23:48
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juhlsI have some missing gpg keys, and some packages can't be verified.  Does anyone know where I get the keys?23:58
^Alitasysinfo says ubuntu 8.0423:58

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