[00:00] if I transfer the HD to this computer [00:00] xubuntu runs perfectly [00:00] just doesn't like the other PC [00:00] USB HD? [00:00] nope [00:00] IDE [00:01] the other PC wouldn't accept USB to boot from [00:01] so transfered the hd over [00:01] Use the same cable? [00:01] disabled the main HD of this PC, then installed [00:01] no [00:01] I'll try another cable [00:01] got a few hanging about [00:02] you installed on one PC and transfered to the other keeping the same config on different hardware? [00:02] yes [00:03] well... [00:04] how old is the PC that keeps crashing? [00:05] about 4 years [00:05] and the one you installed Xubuntu on? [00:05] AMD athlon 12000+ 256mb PC2100 RAM [00:05] thats about 1 1.5 [00:05] both installed with XP [00:06] is it worth trying to get the disk burned [00:06] and installing from that [00:06] yup [00:07] I'll try it again [00:07] nero was being an arse when I tried burning it earlier [00:07] I'm running Xubuntu 8.04 on a K6-2 500 with a PCI gfx card [00:07] need to format the disk before hand?? [00:07] or will it install over the top [00:08] I DL the latest one 8.10 [00:08] hello [00:08] where do i setup a dial-up connection in xubuntu [00:08] i don't see the option in the network connections for modems [00:08] no need to format, PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn [00:09] or after i install my modem driver do i need to restart connection manager? [00:09] Neff: look for "ppp" in Synaptics [00:09] well i'm installing kppp [00:09] it seems to have found my driver [00:10] Neff: ok [00:10] it says "configuring alsa-driver-linuxant [00:10] is that right? [00:10] have to admit I was impressed with ubuntu/xubuntu when I installed them prior [00:10] connected straight through to the web with no issues at all [00:10] Neff: not sure, never used dial-up :) [00:11] PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn: one thing that could mess up is having your vid card proprietary drivers enabled [00:11] no vid card [00:11] especially if the new comp has PCI-E and the old one as AGP [00:11] both spec computers are onboard graphics [00:11] ah [00:11] that is the case [00:12] have been meaning to get a graphics card for this PC for quite a while [00:12] it also needs a ram upgrade [00:13] but money is never going spare for someting like that [00:15] did you install from a live cd? [00:15] no [00:15] USB [00:16] tried burning the CD [00:16] but it wasn't booting on any of the PC's [00:16] checked the md5sums first? [00:16] ?? [00:17] md5 checksums, to ensure the Xubuntu installation your d/led wasn't corrupt [00:18] btw, no need for nero to burn iso, there's a neat little freeware for windows taking care of just tat [00:19] nero is being a bitch tonight anyway [00:19] wont open up [00:19] ok [00:19] http://www.imgburn.com/ [00:19] got the checksums page from where I downloaded it [00:20] when you asked about formatting the HD, is there only xubuntu on it? [00:21] yes [00:21] all xd3 [00:21] then yup, format it :) [00:21] (I think that was the format anyway [00:21] ext3? [00:21] yeah [00:21] thats the 1 [00:21] how big is the swap partition? [00:22] 839mb [00:22] ok [00:22] 256mb of physical ram [00:23] watching it on system monitor its usually running about 50% physical ram [00:23] not touching the swap partition [00:23] did you do a memtest? [00:23] yes [00:24] that came back fine [00:24] passed all of them [00:24] so xubuntu's running on the older system atm? [00:24] BTW, thanks for the assistance. not at this very moment, its shut down [00:25] ok [00:25] but it was 20minutes ago [00:25] np [00:25] does it reboot spontaneously? [00:25] yeah [00:25] othertimes though it just freezes up [00:27] do you get the GRUB menu at start up? [00:28] yes [00:29] so you can choose recovery mode? [00:29] when it was the kernel 2.6.27.7 I did remove the "quiet splash" and put noapic in its place, and it ran a bit more stable that way [00:29] yes [00:29] but that tended to freeze up [00:29] ah... [00:29] good good [00:30] noapic nolapic pci=noacpi [00:30] those tend to help on older hardware [00:30] it allowed me to download one of the linux updates [00:30] but didn't keep it stable for a huge amount longer [00:31] did it crash during update? [00:31] yes [00:31] uh oh [00:31] don't bother, start fresh [00:31] will do [00:31] is it possible to ask a question about the default 8.10 theme? [00:32] go on?? [00:32] no, this isn't a help channel [00:32] :P [00:32] j/k [00:32] gonna have to make the colours on xchat stand out more [00:32] he ok wow had me worried there for a minute [00:32] swore that was you asking me.... [00:33] don't ask to ask, just ask :D [00:33] whether you'll get an answer or not is another matter but... [00:34] hello [00:34] PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn: btw any dust build up in there? [00:34] a bit [00:34] got most of it out [00:34] even the PSU? [00:34] vacuum though [00:34] oh [00:34] ok so... [00:34] ran it over the heatsink [00:35] i have 8.04 and am happy with it mostly [00:35] but the 8.10 has better nm and stuff [00:35] its a newer heatsink than the computer anyway [00:35] so i hear [00:35] but i really dont like the default themes that come with it [00:35] moontiger: better support for 3G modems AFAIK [00:35] one ask... [00:35] i have a CORE 2 DUO E8400 with 4 gb ram... i need swap partition?? [00:36] so i'm prolly better staying with 8.04 then no? [00:36] skymebill: desktop or laptop? [00:36] desktop [00:36] moontiger: yeah, you can stay with 8.04. it is LTS.. so... [00:36] ok cool thnx [00:36] :) [00:36] skymebill: how big drive? [00:36] moontiger: what about the theme of 8.10 you don't like? [00:36] 250gb [00:37] Odd-rationale, it sounds dumb but the menu indicators ... the ">" things look so ugly [00:37] skymebill: swap wouldn't hurt... you will need it if you wnat to hibernate [00:37] moontiger: change the Gtk theme [00:37] can i make 8.10 look the same as 8.04? [00:37] moontiger: well. you can get the old gtk theme from 8.04 and use it in 8.10... [00:37] i can? [00:37] Settings, user interface [00:38] i tried that but then i get diff colors [00:38] Odd-rationale ok thanks :) [00:38] moontiger: you can probably find the theme in /usr/share/themes/ [00:38] ok cool thank you [00:38] :) [00:38] skymebill: is it a laptop computer? [00:38] skymebill: as you probably know, the swap parition/file should be bigger than your ram... at least 1.5* [00:39] PsynoKhi0: desktop ^ [00:39] ah crap sry missed the line [00:39] :) [00:39] * PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn bbonline in a few minutes [00:40] well I have 2GB RAM, 1GB swap on my desktop... it's almost a waste of disk space, butt hen again it depends on your usage [00:41] I don't think I've seen it going over a few megs of swap usage [00:41] 512MB swap on a desktop is fine for everyday use IMO [00:42] and I keep on jabbering but no one answer my question... what about MY needs dangit? :P [00:43] cat /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf <- anyone? [00:44] PsynoKhi0: what happenned to yours? [00:44] if i were on a ubuntu system, i would pastbin mine... but you can probably find one on the livecd... [00:45] it's just a long line on my Xubuntu Hardy computer, but a long file on my main system with Ubuntu [00:45] the xubuntu hardy old geezer can't get any IP from my ISP [00:46] the /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.xxx.leases show the DHCP server IP to my former ISP, not quite right [00:47] and unless they have locked my MAC addresses somehow I ca't see why the xubuntu box can't find it's way out [00:48] /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf on the xubuntu box has nothing but the "request ........." part [00:48] all on a single line [00:49] well, i don't use dhclient, so can't help much there... [00:49] argh don't go make coffe now!!! [00:49] ah [00:49] you already tried dhclient -k eth0. or whatever the command is? [00:49] -k? uh don't think so [00:49] i don't remember the exact command... [00:50] -r ? [00:54] bbl [00:58] how do i fix the 'unable to resolve host MYHOSTNAME' [00:59] r00tl: can you ping say google.com for example? [00:59] ping -c 3 google.com [00:59] negative. [01:00] is /etc/resolv.conf empty? [01:00] `ping: unknown host google.com' [01:00] no it has search Belkin, nameserver 192.168.2.1 domain MSHOME [01:01] r00tl: can you ping 74.125.45.100 ? [01:01] this is a wired connection, cable is good tried on other PC [01:03] says ping 74.125.45.100 56(84) bytes of data but nothing after indicating that it's working like normal [01:04] if you can't ping an ip address, then it is probably your connection... [01:04] i recently changed the host name, but it seems via /etc/hosts, and resolv.conf that it's changed...so i don't see the issue. [01:05] the file /etc/network/interfaces shows auto lo eth0 and iface eth0 inet dhcp [01:05] r00tl: are you using networkmanager? [01:05] does it say you are connected? [01:06] terminal mostly. [01:06] it says manual network configuration when i hover over it. [01:07] if it's using DHCP, should roaming mode be turned on? [01:07] try "sudo dhclient -r eth0" then "sudo dhclient eth0" [01:09] second is on DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 with intervals of 7, 13, 18 [01:10] no DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping [01:10] r00tl: obviously, your machine cannot connect to the router... [01:11] so then it must be a setting if i can take the same cat6 cable and plug it into my lappy, and it works fine wired... [01:12] r00tl: can you revert the hostname change? [01:12] i can go through history and look for the change...but what if i did it via network manager? [01:13] r00tl: well, i don't use network manager, so i can't really speak there... [01:13] or applications>system>network [01:27] I just reinstalled xubuntu because I got a new harddrive, now my monitor is dim and the Fn key combo wont change the brightness, is there is an app to change laptop monitor brightness? [01:28] i see displayconfig-gtk isnt in intrepid.. [01:30] check power manager [01:30] apps>settings>settings manager [01:31] screen saver> power mangagement [01:31] there is no power manager in the settings manager [01:31] ohh screen saver [01:31] yea [01:31] u can add it to apps>settings if u like [01:32] yeah, i did have it in ther ealready [01:32] im going to try to reboot [01:32] it didnt seem to take effect [01:32] ever since ibex my power settings have been really weird [01:32] did u check all the tabs? [01:32] like if i suspend my machine, then close the lid during the susend, the suspend doesnt finish until i open the lid again [01:32] i think there might be some buggy acpi issue going on [01:33] theres a fix 1 sec [01:34] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=585953 [01:35] scroll down to jlovell_esd189's post towards the bottom [01:35] or u can get xscreensaver [01:37] havent used xscreensaver tho [01:37] but i know adding gnome-screensaver to auto started apps works [01:38] yay, brightness back [01:38] my guess is it got dimmed when i unplugged and just got stuck being dimmed [01:38] i use xf4lock [01:38] did u change options for running on battery? [01:38] which uses xscreensaver, right? [01:38] yeah, i changed the option [01:38] and rebooted [01:38] now time to unplug power and test [01:38] * PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn brb [01:39] cool, seems to still work [01:39] are u using gnome or xscreensaver? [01:40] R1cochet: i think its xscreensaver, i use xlock to lock my screen which uses xscreensaver, i think [01:41] did u install xscreen? [01:41] umm yes [01:41] i had to [01:41] so yeah, it probably uses that [01:42] which reminds me [01:42] xubuntu doesnt install xlock by default [01:42] which is weird [01:42] because xf4lock uses it [01:42] it should be dependent [01:47] now time to fix my hanging boot issue [01:49] would xubuntu be a good environment for me to use so i can have more memoryfor audacity (which is dragging in ubuntu gnome)? [01:50] diginux: do u have screensaver matrixview in xscreensaver? [01:50] R1cochet: i might, but i always use blank, why do you ask? [01:51] because i have it on gnome-screensaver but it doesnt show in xscreensaver, and the file is still where it should be [02:11] hello can anyone tell me how I install something that cam in a bz2 file [02:46] is it usual to have a black screen with the cursor on it for long periods during the instalation of xubuntu [02:49] -bash: /usr/bin/groups: input/output error [02:50] ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ [02:50] is that going to be a problem [02:58] hello zoredache === ball is now known as ball_ [03:13] anyone home??? [03:13] yes [03:14] great [03:14] got an issue with printing an oo that i can find inforums... [03:14] * PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn is off, giving up on this linux lark for tonight [03:15] yep [03:15] oo prints real smalll in top corner...preiview looks great... [03:15] my work around is to export as pdf and print in print preview mode ....then it prints full page... [03:16] testprint on printer looks good... [03:16] anyone hear of something similar... [03:16] first thought off the top of my head is that the printer's in a higher resolution mode than the software thinks ...and everything's being printed as graphics for some reason. [03:16] ...perhaps. [03:17] how would i ck that...newbie to linux... [03:18] printer installed in cups [03:18] No idea. I'm somewhat new to Linux myself. [03:18] setting says ¨normal¨ print [03:21] well...guess I´ll keep looking elsewhere....nite [03:24] * ball shrugs [03:27] hello [03:27] hello [03:29] I'm looking for an advanced user with way too much patience to help with a VIA driver install. I am three days into ever using ubuntu or any linux os for that matter [03:29] welcome [03:29] new linux user myself [03:30] thanks :) [03:30] What device are you having trouble with? [03:30] as of about 3 weeks agaon [03:30] my video/audio chipset [03:30] Which VIA board? [03:30] that is going to be a problem [03:30] hmm chrome 9 [03:31] I have the via/s3 chip myself and I had a heck of a time finding a driver [03:31] try www.openchrome.org [03:31] I wish I could tell you all the things I had to do to get it to work [03:31] but it was a struggle and a blur [03:31] hehe [03:31] People in #unichrome may be able to help with the X driver [03:31] ...or in X.org [03:31] #xorg I mean [03:32] and it still does not do opengl well [03:32] blender looks sick on it [03:32] tried xcorg can get it to go pas the keyboard stuff [03:32] Shaba1: are you using open source drivers? [03:32] the ones I got from that site I mentined [03:32] mentined [03:33] but I had a heck of a time getting them installed [03:33] I only have the drivers that come with the xubuntu distro [03:33] Shaba1: okay, that'll be the open source driver [03:33] 8.10 [03:33] I'm told it works best with the older VIA chipsets, at least if you want 3D support [03:34] I am not going to risk it. [03:34] I did find the uncompiled drivers at via but have no idea how to implement them or should I try a package from openchrome [03:35] I took me forever to get beyond a 640X480 screen [03:35] that's where I'm at [03:35] if it ain't broke do not try to fix it [03:35] no sound either [03:36] where do I enter in the info to register my nic ball? [03:36] Guest18134: try /msg nickserv help [03:37] in the terminal? [03:37] Guest18134: you still haven't told us your board. [03:37] Guest18134: in your irc client [03:37] oh how would I determine that [03:37] Guest18134: Not a computer you built then? [03:37] nope [03:38] I forget that people buy computers whole [03:38] everex stepnote [03:38] I dont intend to again lol [03:38] okay, give me a minute to fire up my Web browser [03:38] it's the one with all of the via stuff rather than the intel chipset [03:39] I need a model number too [03:39] (printed on the bottom?) [03:39] zonbu [03:40] That's a model number?! [03:41] Ah, that's got a C7 in it I think [03:41] hello mschemerii [03:42] Guest18134: do you have a manual for it? [03:42] nope [03:42] but I can look up the hardware in it [03:43] Yeah... need model numbers [03:43] (e.g. CLE266( [03:43] )) [03:43] Graphics: VIA Chrome9 HC IGP [03:44] VIA C7-M [03:44] hmm [03:44] Guest18134: what chipset though? [03:44] I could crack it open and take a look at the board?!? [03:46] what does lspci say [03:47] lspci? [03:47] Guest18134: do you know how to open a terminal? [03:47] if so [03:47] type lspci then enter [03:47] k [03:47] it will tell you all the devices attached to your computer [03:49] http://paste.ubuntu.com/88961/plain/ [03:49] I think that should be it [03:50] hmm I think I need to fix a drink brb [03:50] Okay, give me a minute to look up the unichrome info for that [03:51] k [03:51] mmm [03:51] i could use a drink [03:52] am back [03:53] I suggest it [03:54] I'm in seattle wa and we are having an Ice issue here right now everything is closed down [03:54] * ball nods [03:54] I drove through an ice storm today too [03:58] Guest18134: I'm asking in #unichrome, but haven't got an answer yet. [03:59] I think i've found the right drivers from via bu I dont know how to compile them or install them [04:01] You probably shouldn't try [04:01] ok [04:02] hmm [04:04] Guest18134: there's probably a binary package for it if it's not shipped by default with Xubuntu [04:04] ok I'm guessing then it's just finding the package? [04:04] * ball nods [04:04] hang on [04:05] no worries I'm super patient the issue till now has been finding someone else who is hehe [04:06] Oh, hang on, I've got that Synaptic thing [04:06] Let me look in there. [04:06] Guest18134, what is your problem? [04:07] trying to install via drivers for my audio video chipset [04:08] cody-somerville: does Xubuntu ship with OpenChrome drivers? [04:09] xserver-xorg-video-openchrome ? [04:09] Xubuntu ships with it [04:10] I do still have the xubuntu cd I used to do my install [04:14] cody-somerville: does he have to do anything special to activate it? [04:15] oh i found that in synaptic [04:15] hmm [04:15] let me know if that's the one I need to install [04:15] If it's not installed, install it and reboot. [04:16] ok I'll log back in and let you know how it goes [04:16] ok [04:16] Good luck. [04:18] ball, no, should just work [04:19] Oh well, hopefully that'll work for him. [04:25] hello again [04:25] I still seem to be having trouble with the whole log on thing [04:26] it's the guy with the via issue [04:27] so I marked the open chrome package for re-installation and have applied and rebooted [04:28] still stuck with the bad res :( [04:28] what's up with the log-on thing? [04:28] I'm not sure what I'm doing *blush [04:31] * ball sighs [04:32]