[00:44] hey all [00:48] hey NCommander [00:53] ScottK, you floating around? [00:53] NCommander: Yes. Please don't kill me ... [00:54] ScottK, no, its not your fault kde4bindings is still FTBFSing :-) [00:54] I made one fatal flaw [00:54] Ah. [00:54] python-qt4 is arch all [00:54] But its configuration file must be arch any [00:54] Oops :-) [00:54] anyone have plasma shortcuts working ? [00:54] NCommander: OK. What's your plan? [00:55] I just figured out what caused the failure, I think we simply need to split out python-qt4's configuration file [00:57] So, I need advice [00:57] What should the arch-any part be called [00:57] * NCommander confirmed his suspesion [00:57] http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/all/python-qt4-dev/filelist - see the first two files in the list === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde [01:09] ScottK, testbuilding the fix now [01:17] Wow, when did PPA get build stats [01:25] It is semi-usable through Alt+F2, but the panel is completely fubar. Even after I deleted the .kde folder. [01:25] :o [01:26] the panel is usable through alt+F2 ? [01:27] na, just some forum user complaining [01:27] they update half way through the 4.1.85 builds [01:32] anyone using bluetooth? kdebluetooth4 can't start because it seems to have a kde 4.1.2 dependency [01:42] Riddell and lool: koffice uploaded. [01:43] knusperfrosch: Kbluetooth is broken. [01:44] Also it's not on the Alpha 2 CD, so if you're upgrading using the CD, you'll need to update from the repos after. [01:44] Is still won't work though. [01:44] Is it expected to be working post jaunty ? [01:44] It's a question of when upstream finishes updating for the new bluez. [01:44] i hope beta/final will ship kdebluetooth4 ? [01:45] k, ic [01:45] It's currently broken in Intrepid too. [01:49] python-qt4 is almost done building [01:49] yay [01:49] and I got Debian to accept our python-qt4 changeset! [01:50] Great. [01:57] ScottK, feel like sponsoring? [01:58] Sure. [01:58] Link me a debdiff. [01:58] ScottK, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/20606417/python-qt4_4.4.4-2ubuntu1_4.4.4-2ubuntu2.diff.gz [01:59] ScottK, let me just confirm my fix worked fully first before sponsoring [01:59] (I haven't test built on ARM but I don't think its really necessary) [01:59] And actually [01:59] * NCommander just found a bug [01:59] :-) [02:12] NCommander: Would you also look at the http://kde42.debian.net/ kdebindings package and see if Debian has any additional patches of interest. [02:12] kdebindings is staying on 4.1 for the time being [02:13] NCommander: Not at http://kde42.debian.net/ [02:14] They appear to have got it building without ripping Nepomuk bindings out. [02:16] Debian allows binary uploads [02:16] Circular build dependencies aren't the end of the world for them [02:16] Riddell: Did we make a decision about demotion/removal for guidance-power-manager? [02:16] Right. That's how they did it. [02:17] Riddell: Particularly since powerdevil can't be removed, my vote for guidance-power-manager is out of the archive. [05:23] Riddell: ok, thanks === mcasadevall is now known as NCommander [08:21] Hobbsee: In libkipi, you made the change: Change libkipi5 depend to libkipi6 (libkipi5 is NBS, and has been replaced by libkipi6) for libkipi0. Unfortunately libkipi6 conflicts/replaces libkipi0, so the package is now uninstallable. [08:24] If there's some insomniac Ninja around who wants to solve that too, that'd be great. See comments in Bug 298413 for other info. [08:24] Launchpad bug 298413 in digikam "Please sync digikam 2:0.10.0~beta2-1 from debian experimental" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/298413 [08:54] hi all === glade88_ is now known as glade88 [11:21] ScottK: oh, bloody hell. [11:22] well, i guess it started as uninstallable as soon as libkipi5 stopped building, but that's still not good ;) === fregl_ is now known as fregl [14:24] hey ScottK [14:41] has anyone else noticed kate crashing when closing files if multiple files are open? [14:41] in 4.2beta2 [14:45] Arby: i didn't [14:45] hmm, happens everytime for me if I hit the close button in the toolbar [14:45] going File > close seems to be ok though [14:51] I've noticed that [14:51] it's done that twice or so [14:55] happens almost every time for me [14:56] I'm just installing the dbg package then I'll get a better backtrace [14:59] and of course when I want it to crash it won't [15:00] ah, there we go [15:03] JontheEchidna: this mean much to you? [15:03] http://paste.ubuntu.com/90026/ [15:19] /win 37 === EagleSn is now known as EagleScreen === EagleSn is now known as EagleScreen [17:58] ScottK: one of my soc students from last year volunteered to look a kpackage kit and said he would do it over the holiday. so hopefully we'll have reviews on that and quassel by the next kubuntu meeting [18:06] seele: I'd be thankful to get a copy of that :) [18:06] (the quassel review, that is) [18:08] Sput: it will probably go up on the wiki [18:09] seele: Great. Did you see rgreening has a draft kvirc-kde4 package in his PPA (Jaunty only). That should get reviewed too. [18:10] ScottK: yeah, he sent me a link to his ppa [18:10] OK. Great. [18:10] since i'll probably do quassel i can do both [18:11] Don't install the -dev package as it stands. The rest should be fine. [18:11] just quassel-client? [18:11] er.. oh right, from your ppa [18:11] * seele is still waking up [18:12] seele: quassel, not quassel client. [18:12] qt4-x11 4.4.3-2ubuntu1 building on every single arch at the same time .... [18:16] from what I have seen, I think Quassel would be the better choice due to its simplicity when compared to kvirc... ScottK what do you think on that? [18:16] I used to use kvirc, so I am a fan of it [18:16] though to me, kvirc is our mirc [18:17] I haven't used kvirc yet. [18:18] it is a really good client, with a lot of options...if you have ever used mirc and irssi, you will probably get a better hold of it [18:19] nixternal: the problem with quassel is getting connected to irc. how would anyone know they have to set up the node thing in order to subscribe to a channel? [18:19] couldn't we provide a default config that would give them something generic? [18:20] seele: They are making some changes shortly that should make it possible for us to patch it to include a default channel. [18:20] nixternal: Not right now, but shortly. [18:20] it still seems superfluous to have to do that instead of just have a normal client [18:22] seele: If you install quassel (not quassel client) you get a monlithic IRC client. === JLP_ is now known as JLP [18:25] Arby_: oh, I forgot you pinged me. I'm not really a kate expert... [18:25] no worries [18:25] I still haven't figured out exactly what triggers the crash === Arby_ is now known as Arby [21:13] Czessi__: ping? [21:45] holy cow its freaking freezin outside [22:04] OMG IT IS FREEZING!!! [22:04] -15 F with the wind [22:05] -20C outside w/o the wind, or -3f [22:05] sustained wind of 20mph w/ gusts of 35 for us [22:05] our windchill right now is -34f, or -36c [22:05] i think i heard as of midnight we had 42 inches of snow and got another 10 last night [22:05] or something sick like that [22:05] I just went out to ship off my xmas presents....that's it, no more going out! [22:05] we only got a dusting last night [22:05] i ordered all my gifts from amazon [22:06] does amazon gift wrap? [22:06] if so, call me an idiot! [22:06] yes they do [22:06] if you mark it as a "gift" [22:06] damn, then I will do amazon only for the rest of my life...it is to cold out there for me [22:07] my poor dog had to pee so i took him outside and he looked at me like wtf can't i just go inside? [22:07] LOL [22:08] get the pee pads and put them in the garage, or somewhere warmer than outside [22:08] detached garage :( [22:08] next house that is a must [22:08] hehe [22:09] multiple deaths in benton harbor on highway [22:15] jjesse: drive by shooting? :p [22:15] massive car crash [22:15] i think i heard 3 fatalities [22:15] I just drove past a really bad accident when I was out...they had one of the drivers walking the line and sticking his leg out in front of him [22:18] wow, a plane kind of crashed in denver...nobody died which they are saying is a miracle [22:18] geez, two coworkers have died of cardiac arrest->lack of oxygen in the past 72 hours [22:19] umm, it is time to leave the office then crimsun [22:19] this is some holiday :/ [22:19] nixternal: unfortunately it means i have to work over the holidays [22:19] oh, I was thinking something happened at work [22:20] ah, not _that_ type of sequence, no =) [22:22] One person is dead after a crash involving 12 semi-trucks and around 30 other vehicles near St. Joseph [22:22] WOW! [22:22] 12 semi-trucks and 30 other vehicles [22:22] that is nuts [22:23] agreed [22:23] man, i miss cold weather and wind [22:24] crimsun: Come to Chicago. We have plenty of it [22:24] we have way to much of it! [22:24] nhandler: i grew up in minnesota and wisconsin, so cold+wind ain't no thang [22:25] this "tropical" near-freezing doesn't cut it [22:25] lol [22:26] crimsun: Don't worry. We're overdue for our generally regular every 3 years snowstorm that drops 3 feet of snow on the area. [22:26] we have a poop loud of snow here in west michigan [22:26] Those are fun around here where they are totally unprepeared. [22:27] ScottK: i totally don't look forward to the roads during such an event [22:28] i am amazed how many people "forget" how to drive in a snowstorm [22:28] i mean they happen all the time [22:28] jjesse: kinda like forgetting how to drive in any sort of inclement weather [22:29] "it's pouring rain, lemme drive 95 mph!" [22:30] or its pouring rain lemme drive 10 [22:31] heh [22:32] or its pouring rain lemme get 2 more beers before driving 95mph! [22:32] thats just how you drive nixternal [22:33] good point [23:32] Riddell: seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/310228 this one? [23:32] Ubuntu bug 310228 in xorg "patch 107_fedora_dont_backfill_bg_none.patch causes video garbage in KDE 4 (dup-of: 254468)" [Undecided,New] [23:32] Ubuntu bug 254468 in xorg "[KDE4] momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects" [Undecided,Confirmed]