[12:25] <dilomo> thorwil: are you there man
[12:27] <dilomo> however here's an image with a new arrows on the spinbuttons:
[12:27] <dilomo> http://www.piccdrop.com/images/1229862278.png
[12:27] <dilomo> any opinions?
[13:03] <thorwil> dilomo: just now i am
[13:05] <dilomo> thorwil: you are are infront of the pc now?
[13:05] <thorwil> yes
[13:06] <thorwil> dilomo: there could be more contrast between enabled and disabled arrows
[13:07] <thorwil> dilomo: i think you should add a clearly visible right edge to v-scrollbars / bottom edge to h-scrollbars
[13:08] <dilomo> why?
[13:09] <thorwil> dilomo: it currently looks like the troughs fade out. it's not clear where they end. it should be clear where they end becasue they are target areas
[13:09] <dilomo> btw here are the new prelight states:
[13:09] <dilomo> http://www.piccdrop.com/images/1229864923.png
[13:09] <dilomo> http://www.piccdrop.com/images/1229864935.png
[13:10] <dilomo> thorwil: as far as the scrollbar why you need to see this area when you have scroll on the wheel and  scrollbar piece
[13:10] <dilomo> that you can move. I prefer it this whay because it cuts many lines and makes the GUI cleaner
[13:13] <thorwil> dilomo: becasue the trough allows page-wise stepping
[13:14] <dilomo> yes but I haven't used that at all in y experience
[13:15] <thorwil> dilomo: you don't need to ask anyone anything if you see yourself as sole user ;)
[13:16] <thorwil> dilomo: i'd darken the red on the edges on the X button
[13:17] <dilomo> thorwil: I am not the only user but this thim is sipposed to be different that the human or clearlooks and orineted towards artistic kind of ppl
[13:17] <thorwil> dilomo: you don't have any other widget that fades out like that, right?
[13:18] <dilomo> well no
[13:18] <dilomo> but I have a lot of dropped shadows
[13:18] <dilomo> thorwil: about the buttons - darken it like the orange on the min button?
[13:19] <thorwil> yes
[13:37] <dilomo> I'm doing it now. btw do the arrows on the spin need to be lighter?
[13:38] <thorwil> dilomo: maybe make the disabled lighter
[13:38] <thorwil> dilomo: enabled are so close to being just black, they might be as well. but that's ok
[13:39] <dilomo> ok thanks
[14:05] <dilomo> does anybody know how to fix this warning and what is causing it (it's not spinbutton):
[14:05] <dilomo> GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated
[14:06]  * thorwil -> coffee
[15:27]  * dilomo is out