[07:40] <gnomefreak> bug 244219
[08:01] <gnomefreak> bug 349451
[08:02] <gnomefreak> mozilla 349451
[10:34] <gnomefreak> ok started vimperator just not in mood to work today
[12:30] <gnomefreak> i hate e16 :(
[13:00] <gnomefreak> asac: we need to do something about merges everything im building is already being merged hint im working for no reason
[15:13] <fta> asac, with the new {flash,X,nvidia driver}, when I leave a page with a video (either with back or by clicking on a link), the whole screen turns black for a few seconds before leaving the current page. scary.
[15:22] <fta> -flash, seems it's only with the totem plugin
[15:24] <asac> fta: hmm ... can you tell gnomefreak that i complained about him copying stuff instead of merging upstream tree? have the feeling he doesnt understand
[15:25] <asac> last time he wondered why we want to merge extensions from debian (because i complained to him about not merging upstream tree)
[15:25] <asac> fta: are you on amd64?
[15:25] <fta> not here
[15:26] <asac> ok ... because kees moved flash to native on amd64
[15:26] <asac> which is still alpha
[15:28] <asac> fta: wanna do he flashplugin-installer rename? i have the feeling that we should do it rather quick ... not sure what kees did to postinst :(
[15:28] <asac> otherwise i will do tonight ;)
[15:30] <fta> i'm not sure what you really want
[15:30] <asac> fta: i want the flashplugin-nonfree i have in my ppa ... just renamed
[15:31] <asac> to flashplugin-installer ....
[15:31] <asac> also i want the actual plugin to also go to /usr/share/ubufox/plugins/
[15:31] <asac> and touching .autoreg
[15:31] <fta> damn, all the dhtml menus are blinking in ff3.1 now. impossible to select any entry
[15:31] <nhandler> Doesn't the mozilla team not use REVU for new extensions?
[15:31] <asac> hmm
[15:31] <asac> nhandler: ho
[15:31] <asac> no
[15:31] <asac> ;)
[15:32] <asac> we have branches and do peer review here
[15:32] <nhandler> asac: Do they go entirely through the mozillateam or do they get uus involved?
[15:32] <asac> nhandler: well .. uus never worked as it bounces back to us ... so we do it on our own
[15:32] <asac> nhandler: that is for extensions packaged by us
[15:32] <nhandler> asac: Ok, just making sure before I comment on a bug. Thanks
[15:32] <nhandler> asac: It is a new extension
[15:33] <asac> for merges from debian its ok to try uus ... but even then they bounce to us
[15:33] <asac> nhandler: look at our wiki page please ... would be cool if you oculd use our branch practices
[15:33] <asac> e.g. using xpi.mk
[15:33] <asac> from mozilla-devscripts
[15:33] <asac> makes things rather trivial
[15:33] <asac> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/firefox-extensions/
[15:33] <asac> there are a bunch of examples
[15:34] <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Firefox3Extensions/Bzr
[15:34] <nhandler> asac: It isn't me packaging it ;)
[15:34] <asac> nhandler: yeah ... if its New it should follow those procedures ...
[15:34] <asac> especially if its for ubuntu (not for debian)
[15:35] <asac> nhandler: so just keep that in mind when reviewing
[15:36] <asac> ok off ... scared to get my laptop robbed
[15:36] <asac> cu later
[15:36] <fta> asac, ?
[17:08] <asac> fta: back
[17:08] <asac> fta: so what we want is:
[17:08] <asac> a) download the archive.canonical.com orig.tar.gz to obtain the plugin
[17:09] <asac> b) use the i386 everywhere (as there is no amd64 one in archive.cnanonica.com)
[17:09] <asac> c) keep all the current alternatives (e.g. xulrunner-addons-flashplugin)
[17:09] <asac> d) use sha1sum instead of md5sum
[17:09] <fta> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/menu.gif
[17:10] <asac> e) rename package to flashplugin-nonfree and
[17:10] <asac> err (flashplugin-installer)
[17:10] <asac> f) take care that on top of the normal alternatives, the actual plugin gets als linked to the ubufox/plugins directory
[17:10] <asac> thats it ;)
[17:10] <asac> the download from canonical is in my ppa
[17:11] <fta> b) seems a regression, there's an amd64 binary now
[17:11] <asac> the sha1sum is in jaunty package (by kees)
[17:11] <asac> fta: its not final
[17:11] <asac> fta: we will use the native once its final
[17:11] <asac> (because only then we can provide a versioned url in archive.canonical.com)
[17:13] <asac> i hope we get a final amd64 binary in this cycle
[17:13] <asac> but converting to it should be easy enough
[17:14] <fta> who's pushing the canonical version?
[17:14] <asac> fta: thats the official packages
[17:14] <asac> one reason why we have them is so we can provide a static url that doesnt break when adobe releases a new thing
[17:15] <fta> i mean, how will it improve the stability of the link?
[17:15] <asac> so in future we coordinate the roll out
[17:15] <asac> fta: they dont get removed
[17:15] <fta> really?
[17:15] <asac> fta: yes. thats the whole idea
[17:15] <fta> http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/
[17:15] <asac> yes
[17:15] <fta> there's only one version per dist
[17:16] <asac> fta: http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_10.0.12.36.orig.tar.gz
[17:16] <asac> http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_10.0.15.3.orig.tar.gz
[17:16] <asac> we dont care for the debs
[17:16] <asac> we care for the orig
[17:16] <asac> where we want to rip out the .so from
[17:16] <asac> (instead of downloading the .bin from adobe)
[17:17] <asac> i will recommunicate though
[17:17] <asac> that the origs have to stay
[17:17] <asac> so the partner team doesnt mess this up
[17:17] <fta> hm, my ff is acting weird, when i hover a link, it just blinks once in the status bar, then disappear
[17:17] <asac> 3.1 bug ... file a bug ;)
[17:17] <asac> (check extensions)
[17:18] <asac> fta: so mozilla-central is already 3.2pre?
[17:18] <fta> it's still b2, it started yesterday, but i didn't touch anything in ff/xul.
[17:18] <fta> -it's still+i'm still using
[17:18] <asac> yeah
[17:18] <asac> i will check once i am at home
[17:18] <asac> in 30 min or so
[17:19] <asac> i have a debug  build of latest moz-central ready i think ;)
[17:19] <asac> oh i have it here even ;)
[17:24] <asac> fta: seems to be b3pre
[17:24] <asac> but works when hovering th urls on that page
[17:24] <asac> (sorry had to run out of bus
[17:25] <asac> will be back in 15 minutes or so when at home
[17:29] <Mechtilde> I have problems with the encoding of German umlaut with lightning
[17:29] <Mechtilde> general I use UTF-8
[17:30] <Mechtilde> webcalendar use UTF-8. where can I find the switch to do it also in Lightning
[17:30] <Mechtilde> for example: instead of "ü" I get "Ä1/4"
[17:38] <asac> Mechtilde: where do you get that?
[17:38] <asac> fta: so is it an extension for you?
[17:39] <fta> asac, not sure.
[17:39] <Mechtilde> I try as Icedove/Iceowl-extension as Thunderbird/Lightning nightlybuild
[17:39] <asac> Mechtilde: yes, but where do you enter text/see the issue in the app
[17:40] <Mechtilde> this way above is when I edit in webcalender and see it in Lightning
[17:40] <asac> Mechtilde: which webcalendar is that?
[17:40] <Mechtilde> inthe other way I edit in Lightning then I see in webcalendar "?"
[17:41] <Mechtilde> asac, was the package in Debian as the upstream version
[17:41] <Mechtilde> I test it in both version
[17:41] <asac> Mechtilde: sure. which webcalendar are you using? any special provider?
[17:42] <Mechtilde> http://www.k5n.us/webcalendar.php?topic=Documentation
[17:44] <asac> Mechtilde: my guess is that webcalendar doesnt support utf-8
[17:45] <Mechtilde> I can explicit choose German-UTF(
[17:45] <Mechtilde> I can explicit choose German-UTF8
[17:45] <asac> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2189393&group_id=3870&atid=203870
[17:45] <asac> probably a bug?
[17:46] <asac> Mechtilde: is there a web front end?
[17:46] <Mechtilde> yes
[17:46] <asac> go to that page with firefox and check which encoding it has
[17:46] <asac> Mechtilde: if you enter umlauts on the web front end, do they at least look ok on the webfrontend?
[17:47] <Mechtilde> yes
[17:47] <asac> Mechtilde: check with firefox then
[17:47] <asac> what encoding is actually used
[17:48] <asac> use tools -> page info to get that info
[17:48] <Mechtilde> Firefox says UTF-8 under "View -> Charakter coding
[17:48] <asac> Mechtilde: use page info
[17:48] <asac> check what it says in "meta tags" and then check what it says in response headers
[17:49] <Mechtilde> text/html; charset=UTF-8
[17:49] <Mechtilde> "response headers"?
[17:49] <asac> Mechtilde: ok and how do you get the calendar info from webcalendar to sunbird
[17:49] <asac> is that a .ics link?
[17:49] <asac> that you subscribe to?
[17:50] <Mechtilde> http://<host>WebCalendar-1.2.0/icalclient.php
[17:50] <Mechtilde> http://<host>/WebCalendar-1.2.0/icalclient.php
[17:51] <asac> Mechtilde: what happens if you call that url in firefox?
[17:51] <Mechtilde> Unknown language :/
[17:52] <asac> ok ... most likely its a real protocol
[17:52] <asac> no clue then
[17:52] <Mechtilde> first thanks for helping to get this inormations
[17:52] <asac> you could try 0.9 or change a setting in sunbird
[17:53] <asac> Mechtilde: try to go to advanced config editor
[17:53] <asac> and change intl.charset.default to UTF-8
[17:54] <Mechtilde> I change it
[17:54] <Mechtilde> must I restart thunderbird?
[17:56] <asac> most likely
[17:56] <Mechtilde> nothing changed
[17:56] <asac> maybe you even need to remove cached calendar info
[17:57] <asac> i assume its now broken in the sqlite db
[17:57] <asac> and the error happens when the data is imported
[17:57] <asac> try some new data
[17:57] <Mechtilde> I use mysql
[17:57] <asac> Mechtilde: no ... sunbird has its own db
[17:57] <Mechtilde> ok that will take some time thands
[17:57] <asac> internally to cache data
[17:58] <asac> play around a bit and let me know
[17:58] <asac> ok off more housekeeping
[17:58] <Mechtilde> first I try a new connection to webcalendar
[17:59] <Mechtilde> a new connection doesn't help
[18:02] <Mechtilde> and also new entry has the same effect
[18:55] <fta> asac, same in safe mode :(
[19:02] <fta> asac, hm, it seems it only flashes when ff is in the foreground, not when ff is partly hidden. i use metacity without autoraise & raise-on-click.
[19:05] <Mechtilde> asac I look for the encoding settings in the webserver
[21:50] <fta> mconnor, what is the codename of 3.2 ?
[21:51] <mconnor> uh
[21:51] <mconnor> that's a _great_ questino
[21:51] <fta> mconnor, granparadiso, shiretoko, ... ?
[21:52] <mconnor> fta: I know what you're asking
[21:52] <fta> :)
[21:52] <mconnor> I just doubt we've actually, y'know, picked something
[21:52] <fta> oh, ok.
[22:25]  * directhex proposes "gerald" as a codename