[00:06] <SJr|Nbook> Hmmmm
[00:07] <SJr|Nbook> I can't seem to get Wireless or an external monitor to work with Ibex on my Asus Aspire One. I've tried following the guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne, but no luck. I don't seem to have an ath5k module.
[00:07] <SJr|Nbook> Right now I'm upgrading a bunch of packages so we will see
[00:07] <SJr|Nbook> I would have thought it would be easy to get linux on this kinda thing :)
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> SJr|Nbook: then find the source or how to get it from repos
[00:10] <SJr|Nbook> Weaksause
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> SJr|Nbook: well its that or no wifi
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> SJr|Nbook: your call
[00:13] <SJr|Nbook> What about going back to Whistler?
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> SJr|Nbook: if you install Netbook Remix packages it should work
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> SJr|Nbook: whistler?
[00:16] <SJr|Nbook> Windows WHistler :)
[00:16] <SJr|Nbook> Hmmmmm Yeah I'm going to after all this crap updates
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> isnt that the name for the beta version of xp
[00:17] <SJr|Nbook> Yeah not the beta version, but the code name for XP
[00:17] <SJr|Nbook> l33t hax0rs like me use code names
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> SJr|Nbook: so let me get this right..you are changing OS purely because everything doesnwork out of the box on the first go?
[00:20] <cuznt> its the code name of the beta version of the different one
[00:25] <frogonwheels> SJr|Nbook: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/15059/   for ath5k stuff
[00:26] <frogonwheels> SJr|Nbook:  there are a few  tricks to getting multiple monitors working. not had experience with laptops though.
[00:27] <frogonwheels> SJr|Nbook: possibly you need to search round for some xorg.conf that will work for you.
[00:27] <frogonwheels> SJr|Nbook: you talking about switching between monitors? or having desktop xinerama'd across the monitors.
[00:33] <mf_> прива
[00:34] <seele> is there a way to change your system language but not internationalization?
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> !ru | mf_
[00:35] <Ejlan> hello
[00:35] <Ejlan> in trying to install kbear
[00:36] <Ejlan> but get "checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
[00:36] <Ejlan> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check"
[00:36] <Ejlan> when i do the ./configure
[00:36] <Ejlan> any ideas on whats wrong?
[00:38] <crimsun> Ejlan: you're missing build-essential or a necessary build component, probably
[00:39] <Ejlan> yeah but of what component ; ;
[00:41] <crimsun> Ejlan: can you first try: sudo apt-get --reinstall install build-essential
[00:41] <Ejlan> okay
[00:43] <Ejlan> now i get "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[00:43] <Ejlan> "
[00:44] <ernestas> ū.ą“ resolution doesnt save
[00:44] <ernestas> after restart   going to previous
[00:44] <ernestas> 8.10
[00:44] <saif> Can someone tell me what to search for to get kde installed on feisty/
[00:44] <ernestas> how to fix
[00:46] <saif> or the kde login screen?
[00:47] <Ejlan> saif: apt-get install kde-desktop?
[00:47] <ernestas> Guys please, help how to fix resolution changing after restart
[00:49] <ncfi1013> hi. my desktop widget is frozen. is there a way that i can kill it using system processes and then put a new desktop widget in its place?
[00:49] <saif> is it in the reps for feisty?  Says can't find package kde-desktop?
[00:50] <Dragnslcr> saif- probably kubuntu-desktop
[00:51] <saif> kts
[00:54] <Ejlan> ah
[00:57] <SJr|Nbook> Talking about switching monitors or dual mointors, so I can get better resoultion, it seems I have to reboot to do it.
[00:57] <SJr|Nbook> But I'm trying to install other stuff right now
[00:57] <xevix> how do i show windows on the panel, only from the current desktop?
[00:57] <SJr|Nbook> cuznt it's not a code name for a beta, it's the project code name.
[00:59] <saif> how do I set kdm as the default manager?
[00:59] <Ejlan> choose it on your login screen
[00:59] <Ejlan> in options
[00:59] <cuznt> i was just being a smart arse.. excuse
[01:01] <saif> I mean the actual login screen itself don't want the tan one that says ubuntu, want the kde login screen.
[01:01] <saif> M last setup i had to remove gdm to make it work but would like to leave it on for future use if possible
[01:01] <SJr|Nbook> What is madwifi, I only see a madwifi tools package, I do not see how I'm suppose to use it
[01:02] <ernestas> Guys please, help how to fix resolution changing after restart
[01:08] <Ejlan> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) notfound. Please check your installation!
[01:08] <Ejlan> what pack do i need
[01:12] <xevix> i can't find a way to edit task manager settings, to show only windows from the current desktop
[01:13] <frogonwheels> xevix:  kde4? 3.*?
[01:13] <xevix> 4
[01:14] <xevix> in 3 it's in the kcontrol
[01:14] <xevix> but i read that in 4 it's in task manager settings
[01:14] <frogonwheels> if you can right-click on the correct bit of it.. (easier if you have only a couple of tasks).. it's in the options for the widget
[01:14] <xevix> problem: can't seem to access task manager settings anywhere
[01:14] <xevix> i have 4 tasks, and i have no idea where to right click =p
[01:14] <frogonwheels> on the background of the task-manager
[01:15] <frogonwheels> You should see   "Task Manager Settings"
[01:15] <xevix> anywhere i put my mouse on where tasks are, anywhere in that area
[01:15] <xevix> it automatically lights up the task
[01:15] <xevix> there seems to be no room for anything else
[01:15] <frogonwheels> xevix: then don't click near a task.
[01:15] <xevix> ahhhh, i found space in between tasks
[01:15] <frogonwheels> try on the top.. or almost the top.
[01:15] <frogonwheels> :)
[01:15] <xevix> i tried the top, that was no good, but this'll do
[01:15] <xevix> man...... bad usability =p
[01:15] <xevix> thanks frogonwheels
[01:15] <frogonwheels> np.
[01:16] <frogonwheels> yeah.. there are a few things about that task manager that aren't great.
[01:16] <frogonwheels> .. like if you have 20 tasks
[01:16] <frogonwheels> I think there's a better one lying about - but maybe not quite ready for release.
[01:16] <xevix> i heard a new one for 4.2, yeah
[01:17] <walgomesfi> Hi
[01:22] <syke> I just updated my kubuntu to the latest 4.2 packages, and just got a plasma crash when resuming my laptop from standby: http://www.pastebin.ca/1290455
[01:24] <SJr|Nbook> I have been playing with Kubuntu on my new Netbook, and it's become clear to me that KDE hogs too much realstate on the screen, and too many of it's dialogs are too wide for it. What is are some other managers to try?
[01:25] <sparr> for a netbook i would probably use openbox
[01:25] <sparr> you realize that kde is not the same thing as kwin, right?
[01:25] <SJr|Nbook> No I don't
[01:26] <SJr|Nbook> I'm not talking just about the task bar, but all the settings screens and every dialog seems to be way too big
[01:26] <sparr> the task bar is not part of kwin either
[01:27] <sparr> the dialogs you are referring to are part of KDE.  changing window managers wont change that
[01:27] <SJr|Nbook> Sorry maybe I meant something instead of Window Manager, I meant something whatever KDE, Gnome, Fluxbox, etc... are
[01:31] <sparr> kde and gnome are desktop environments
[01:31] <sparr> kwin, metacity, and fluxbox are window managers
[01:32] <sparr> the window manager provides the titlebar and borders for your windows, and features like virtual desktops and shading
[01:32] <sparr> the window manager MAY have an integrated taskbar, panel, or dock of some sort, about half do
[01:33] <sparr> the desktop environment provides all sorts of other things, like application and device integration
[01:33] <sparr> you can use pypanel for a taskbar, fluxbox for your window manager, and kde for your desktop environment
[01:33] <sparr> or any other combination
[01:34] <sparr> your problems seem to be with KDE
[01:34] <sparr> gnome is the only other major desktop environment
[01:34] <sparr> there are a few others, far less featureful or mature
[01:34] <syke> maybe a different skin would 'waste' less real estate?
[01:35] <SJr|Nbook> Hmmmmm
[01:35] <syke> try playing around with different themes
[01:35] <sparr> that sort of 'skin' affects kwin, which is the same sort of change you would get by changing window managers
[01:35] <SJr|Nbook> Actually I'm just a moron, when I hooked up my external monitor, I thought it was shirniking to the native resolution, but it appears it wasn't
[01:35] <syke> ah
[01:35] <SJr|Nbook> All the dialog boxes seem to be fine on the actual screen so maybe not
[01:36] <sparr> if the dialogs are far too wide, you should look into changing the widget set and font size
[01:36] <syke> or, try using the 'control panel' for your video card instead of the X settings
[01:36] <syke> that was the advice I for
[01:36] <sparr> if the empty space around the content of the dialogs is the problem, then a different kwin theme or window manager is the best
[01:42] <saif> where in ccsm do i make emerald the default windows manager?
[01:43] <saif> sy, wrong channle
[01:49] <syke> the wiki page for the kde 4.2 beta says not to file kubuntu bugs
[01:49] <syke> so, where should I post info on my plasma crash after laptop resume bug? http://www.pastebin.ca/1290455
[01:54] <_45h_> hi all. i have Geode video chip and 800x480 screen resolution, but xorg can run only in 800x600. how to fix this?
[01:59] <bazhang> _45h_, nvidia?
[01:59] <wesley> opensuse released 11.1
[01:59] <seba> please i need the link to the Ubuntu chanel
[02:00] <_45h_> bazhang, AMD Geode
[02:00] <bazhang> wesley, please discuss in #kubuntu-offtopic or #suse
[02:00] <wesley> bazhang anti suse ?
[02:00] <bazhang> _45h_, paste.ubuntu.com the outcome of lspci
[02:00] <bazhang> wesley, its offtopic here.
[02:01] <frogonwheels> wesley: offtopic
[02:01] <frogonwheels> hence  kubuntu-offtopic to reduce idle chatter :)
[02:01] <seba>  please i need the link to the Ubuntu chanel
[02:01] <frogonwheels> seba: like #ubuntu
[02:01] <bazhang> seba, /j #ubuntu
[02:01] <_45h_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/90426/
[02:01] <seba> thanks
[02:02] <bazhang> _45h_, are there hardware drivers for that? in system administration hardware drivers? this is 8.10 right?
[02:03] <saif> running feisty fawn - just downloaded devede and under the titles selection there is nothing to click for propertes (to change the "title 1" to My movie...
[02:03] <_45h_> yes, 810. drivers windows empty
[02:03] <saif> anyone know anything about this?
[02:03] <_45h_> window*
[02:03] <wesley> anyone has a intel gma x3100 ?
[02:04] <SJr|Nbook> Is there a way I can change my keyboard layout, so that if I hit the \ key without Function or Shift it gets ignored?
[02:04] <bazhang> SJr|Nbook, why are you crossposting?
[02:05] <bazhang> SJr|Nbook, it is the same group of helpers here and in #ubuntu
[02:05] <SJr|Nbook> Ah sorry
[02:08] <_45h_> bazhang, ping
[02:08] <_45h_> X11 modules installed
[02:08] <_45h_> all working nice
[02:08] <bazhang> _45h_, did you install the modules?
[02:08] <_45h_> i have problem only with resolution
[02:08] <bazhang> okay
[02:09] <bazhang> _45h_, and you have tried to add the modelines to xorg.conf, or run the xrandr command?
[02:10] <_45h_> yes
[02:10] <bazhang> _45h_, what options did you get from xrandr
[02:10] <_45h_> xrandr says that 800x600 is minimum resolution
[02:11] <_45h_> and maximum also...
[02:11] <bazhang> and what modelines did you add to xorg.conf
[02:11] <_45h_> i got it from gtf
[02:11] <_45h_> 800 480 60
[02:12] <bazhang> gtf?
[02:12] <_45h_> yes. its nice utility. try to start. you have it
[02:12] <bazhang> you are using kde or gnome
[02:13] <_45h_> gnome
[02:13] <ben> can someone help me with wifi problems?
[02:13] <bazhang> gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[02:13] <bazhang> ben what chipset
[02:13] <_45h_> ben, i have extrasensoric properties
[02:14] <ben> my chipset is...
[02:14] <_45h_> lspci and lsusb to paste.ubuntu.com
[02:14] <bazhang> try that command above _45h_
[02:14] <_45h_> this commands for terminal
[02:14] <ben> whoawhoa
[02:14] <ben> let me look up the chipset first
[02:15] <ben> Texas Instruments ACX111
[02:15] <_45h_> bazhang, nothing...
[02:16] <ben> on my WPC54G v2
[02:16] <ben> it's a pcmcia card
[02:16] <ben> and... what the hell?
[02:16] <bazhang> ben, and does ifconfig show it
[02:16] <ben> no
[02:16] <ben> that's weird
[02:16] <ben> it was earlier
[02:16] <_45h_> bazhang, this program not installed to my system
[02:16] <bazhang> ben you are hotpluggin it or booting with it in
[02:17] <bazhang> _45h_, what distro? ubuntu?
[02:17] <ben> hotplugging
[02:17] <bazhang> ben, that wont work
[02:17] <ben> i followed an install guide
[02:17] <bazhang> ben that could fry your computer
[02:17] <ben> crap
[02:17] <_45h_> bazhang, yes. 810
[02:17] <ben> wait
[02:17] <ben> hotpluggin?
[02:17] <ben> i don't even know what that means...
[02:17] <bazhang> dont hotplug those cards
[02:18] <_45h_> bazhang, nothing starts from "display"
[02:18] <ben> just sticking it in?
[02:18] <mister-tea> before boot
[02:18] <bazhang> _45h_, what is the exact command you ran
[02:18] <ben> yeah, it's in while i boot
[02:18] <bazhang> ben, means after boot
[02:18] <mister-tea> thats hotplugging
[02:18] <ben> ah
[02:18] <ben> i mean it's in before i boot
[02:18] <_45h_> bazhang, are saying about System -> Prefs -> Screen Resolution?
[02:18] <bazhang> _45h_, no
[02:19] <ben> i installed ndiswrapper
[02:19] <bazhang> _45h_, gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[02:19] <ben> and it connected to WEP fine
[02:19] <bazhang> ben, why are you using ndis
[02:19] <ben> but now it won't even show up after writing that wpa_supplicant.conf
[02:19] <bazhang> ben that card has kernel level support
[02:19] <ben> there's a thread on getting this specific card running
[02:19] <ben> it does?
[02:20] <knob> Good evening =D
[02:20] <ben> it wasn't recognized before i installed it
[02:20] <_45h_> bazhang, no program with this name in system
[02:20] <bazhang> ben, was it ever working
[02:20] <mrksbrd> whats a good backup program that will capture an entire partition image & mbr & also have the capability to do a full restore with everything i already installed
[02:20] <bazhang> !info displayconfig-gtk
[02:20] <ben> yes
[02:20] <ben> it wasn't at first
[02:20] <ben> i got rid of knetwork and installed wicd
[02:21] <bazhang> ben, did it ever work with wpa?
[02:21] <ben> no
[02:21] <ben> on windows it did
[02:21] <bazhang> ben, that card does not support wpa afaik
[02:21] <ben> i've been following this thread
[02:21] <ben> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318539
[02:21] <wesley> going run glxgears in suse, to see if frame rates are higher
[02:22] <bazhang> wesley, why are you talking about suse in here
[02:22] <ben> and that blows if i can't get wpa working, cuz then it's back to windows
[02:23] <bazhang> _45h_, paste.ubuntu.com the output of gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[02:23] <wesley> bazhang, simple because, ubuntu seems to have a intel bug and frame rates arent higher then 100, so i wanna know if suse got this to or not
[02:23] <_45h_> bazhang, NO OUTPUT
[02:23] <bazhang> wesley, you know that is offtopic here. please stop
[02:23] <_45h_> no program in repository
[02:23] <_45h_> and in my system
[02:24] <wesley> offtopic, i am talking about a #4a bug
[02:24] <bazhang> _45h_, please type the command exactly as I have written it
[02:24] <Walzmyn> What's the schedule for 4.2 being released in final?
[02:25] <saif> Can anyone help me with ktorrent? my downloads just say 'stalled' - they're good torrents, going just fine on my windows box
[02:25] <mrksbrd> Walzmyn: sometime in january I think
[02:25] <saif> 7.10
[02:26] <_45h_> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/90436/
[02:26] <Walzmyn> saif, for how long?
[02:26] <_45h_> and?
[02:26] <_45h_> thats all
[02:26] <ben> um
[02:26] <ben> anyone?
[02:26] <_45h_> saif, wait for tracker update
[02:26] <_45h_> just wait
[02:27] <saif> Walzmyn, bout 10 minutes now
[02:27] <frogonwheels> ben, you tried with the knetwork-manager ?
[02:27] <bazhang> _45h_, you are ssh'ing into this computer?
[02:27] <ben> yeah
[02:27] <_45h_> saif, some trackers more than 60 minutes
[02:27] <ben> it was terrible and didn't recognize it
[02:27] <_45h_> bazhang, yes
[02:27] <ben> i got rid of it and installed wicd
[02:27] <frogonwheels> doesn't recognise the card?
[02:27] <ben> yeah
[02:28] <bazhang> _45h_, no wonder that command is not working then
[02:28] <_45h_> bazhang, i know
[02:28] <frogonwheels> ben, can you see it in your iwconfig ?
[02:28] <Walzmyn> saif, don't know. Mine sometimes take several minutes to kick in. But I don't think they've ever taken that long.
[02:28] <_45h_> saif, you can update manually
[02:28] <_45h_> context menu on torrent
[02:29] <bazhang> _45h_, in future you should provide context to what the problem is: I am trying to adjust the resolution to a box I am ssh'ing into, etc etc
[02:29] <_45h_> bazhang, sshing is not important
[02:29] <_45h_> i can run GUI programs throw ssh like local work
[02:30] <bazhang> _45h_, there is no xserver on that box
[02:30] <_45h_> if you have time try -X option
[02:30] <_45h_> ssh -X skdjs@host
[02:30] <_45h_> man ssh
[02:32] <knob> Is there a program that will make flash 'movies' from jpegs... for linux?
[02:32] <knob> I searched SourceForge yet didn't find anything like that.
[02:33] <mister-tea> ben: maybe this will help http://blog.eksfiles.net/2007/12/30/using-the-linksys-wpc54g-v2-and-wpa-with-ubuntu-gutsy/
[02:33] <ben> yeah, i can see it in iwconfig
[02:34] <bazhang> ben then you need to associate the AP
[02:34] <ben> um
[02:34] <ben> what does that mean and how?
[02:34] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188
[02:35] <bazhang> ben check that thread ^^
[02:35] <ben> sweet, thanks
[02:35] <ben> this reminds me
[02:35] <ben> how do i change the default web browser?
[02:36] <bazhang> from konqueror to firefox?
[02:37] <ben> yeah
[02:37] <bazhang> AP is access point (ie wifi hotspot) what app are you launching the browser from ben?
[02:38] <ben> um
[02:38] <ben> what app?
[02:39] <bazhang> from irc?
[02:39] <ben> oh
[02:39] <ben> yes
[02:39] <ben> is it in the irc settings?
[02:39] <bazhang> which client ben ?
[02:39] <ben> konversation
[02:39] <bazhang> should be in settings iirc
[02:39] <ben> ok, thanks
[02:39] <saif> is there a way to set ubuntu to load into a user account automatically and disable the need for username/password?
[02:42] <Makuseru> !7z
[02:42] <cwiedel> Hi gang, is there a way to make num lock on when my computer starts up.
[02:44] <knob> cwiedel, probably in the BIOS
[02:44] <ben> huh, that's weird
[02:45] <ben> whenever i run gksu gedit /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[02:45] <ben> gksu starts, then disappears and nothing happens
[02:45] <ben> anyone know why?
[02:47] <Renegade15> good evening
[02:47] <Renegade15> can somebody tell me how to actually turn compiz off under KDE 4.1/Kubuntu 8.10 ?
[02:47] <Renegade15> I tried turning desktop effects off in the system preferences, the checkbox is unchecked, but I still have --replace and compiz running automatically; I tried installing fusion-icon, wouldn't start. I tried installing ccsm, was empty. I tried purging compiz-core, apt says it's not installed
[02:48] <Renegade15> KWin is also selected as the window manager in the session preferences
[02:49] <Renegade15> but I still have ksmserver --windowmanager /usr/bin/compiz coming up on boot
[02:50] <Makuseru> Is there any way to turn a .bin/.cue file into an .iso in kubuntu?
[02:54] <ben> um, someone
[02:54] <ben> i need some help
[02:54] <ben> my wlan0 is gone in ifconfig
[02:54] <ben> but is still there in iwconfig
[02:55] <legodude> can you up it?
[02:55] <legodude> nm
[02:55] <legodude> anyone know why konq will not save my changes to settings
[02:55] <legodude> never mind
[02:55] <legodude> stupid computer
[02:58] <leofedep> hello everyone!!
[03:06] <legodude> I have a bizarre bug where my disk fills up, but I can't seem to find the space
[03:06] <frogonwheels> legodude:  du -s *  is your friend
[03:07] <robinr> du -ma |sort -nr|less is your best friend
[03:07] <legodude> yeah
[03:07] <legodude> the problem is that the machine starts acting really wonky when it happens
[03:07] <legodude> and a reboot fixes it
[03:08] <frogonwheels> legodude: did you look in /tmp ?
[03:08] <legodude> frees up the space like it is supposed to be
[03:08] <legodude> yup
[03:08] <legodude> and /var/log
[03:08] <frogonwheels> legodude: go to the console?
[03:08] <legodude> yeah, next time I will try that
[03:08] <robinr> lsof|fgrep "(deleted)"
[03:08] <legodude> it is usually when I have something important to do so I don't have time to mess with it
[03:08] <frogonwheels> legodude: possibly have a console logged in.. just in case there isn't enough space to log in.
[03:08] <wsgordon> ok, this sucks, installed the nvidia driver now my resolution is 640x480 or something, help resetting it please ?
[03:09] <robinr> maybe someone creates a files, deletes it and continues to write to it
[03:09] <ben> hey, i've got a problem when trying to restart my network
[03:09] <ben> using sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:09] <legodude> ah
[03:09] <Renegade15> can anybody tell me where compiz is entered in the boot sequence?
[03:09] <legodude> I'll try that
[03:09] <ben> i get a bunch of "no such process" and invalid arguments
[03:09] <legodude> also though, it seems to be correlated with kernel problems?
[03:10] <wsgordon> how do i reconfigure the screenresolution
[03:10] <legodude> robinr: so, that command will return files that are open, but have been deleted?
[03:10] <robinr> yes
[03:10] <Renegade15> wsgordon: try system preferences -> display
[03:10] <legodude> so they can be written to
[03:10] <legodude> but will not show up in ls?
[03:10] <ben> anyone here know anything about wifi here?
[03:10] <robinr> exactly
[03:11] <legodude> that sounds like the right track, thanks
[03:11] <legodude> it always seems to happen really suddenly too
[03:11] <wsgordon> Renegade15 tried that
[03:11] <robinr> I can see now that my artsd has .xsession-errors open
[03:12] <robinr> that is a file that can become really big if some program runs amok
[03:12] <Renegade15> can anybody tell me where compiz is entered in the boot sequence? I can't get rid of it
[03:13] <robinr> uninstall it
[03:13] <Renegade15> I can't
[03:13] <Renegade15> according to apt, it's not even installed
[03:13] <ben> anyone at all?
[03:14] <Renegade15> I could simply delete the binary, but then the boot sequence would likely complain, and, in the worst case, simply fail
[03:14] <legodude> Renegade15: replace it with an empty shell script :P
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> Renegade15- I remember having that problem. Let me see if I still have the file written down
[03:15] <Renegade15> I am sure my desktop will look most magnificent if I run true as the window manager :P
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> Renegade15- look for something like /etc/X11/Xsession.d/25enable-compiz
[03:15] <JediatNight> I installed compiz but the effects are not working
[03:15] <JediatNight> can anyone suggest what could be wrong?
[03:16] <Renegade15> go to system preferences, the sub-thing for desktops
[03:16] <Renegade15> should be top-left
[03:16] <Renegade15> check if the checkbox for desktop effects is checked
[03:16] <JediatNight> they are checked
[03:16] <Renegade15> are you sure particular effects are activated?
[03:17] <Renegade15> ooooooooooooooooooh
[03:17] <Renegade15> thank you SO MUCH Dragnslcr
[03:17] <legodude> anyone know of a 3d cad package?
[03:17] <JediatNight> Renegade15: they are working now, I had to setup something
[03:17] <Renegade15> you can try blender, but it's general purpose 3D
[03:18] <legodude> yeah, but I really want cad proper
[03:18] <ben> gah, guess not
[03:18] <legodude> need to do some mechanical drawing
[03:18] <legodude> ben: you have to be much more specific
[03:19] <ben> ok
[03:19] <ben> well
[03:19] <ben> my wifi card won't connect to wpa
[03:19] <ben> i followed a guide online about it
[03:20] <ben> everything worked fine up until the end
[03:20] <ben> the thing that went wrong was when i tried to restart my network using
[03:20] <Renegade15> brb
[03:20] <ben> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:21] <ben> then i get a bunch of invalid arguments and no such process
[03:22] <legodude> I'm not totally following
[03:24] <kudar> why does it say i need root privledges when i open adept?> how do i give it my credientials
[03:24] <kudar> ?
[03:24] <legodude> it should ask automatically
[03:24] <legodude> how are you running it?
[03:25] <kudar> applications-systemtools-adept
[03:25] <legodude> doesn't it ask?
[03:25] <kudar> how else can i open it?
[03:25] <kudar> nah
[03:25] <legodude> that's strange
[03:26] <kudar> just says i wont be able to uninstall or install because i dont have root access
[03:26] <legodude> kdesudo adept in alt+f2
[03:26] <legodude> or from command line
[03:26] <kudar> adept "command not found"
[03:27] <legodude> what's that
[03:27] <legodude> from the command line?
[03:27] <kudar> both
[03:27] <legodude> strange
[03:27] <legodude> is it not in /usr/bin/adept?
[03:28] <ben> http://paste.ubuntu.com/90489/
[03:29] <legodude> ben: looks like it is trying to configure one of your interfaces and failing
[03:29] <kudar> when i do an 'ls' in bin
[03:29] <kudar> it doesn't let me see high enough for the a's
[03:29] <ben> anything i could do about it?
[03:29] <kudar> how do i just single out A's?
[03:29] <legodude> kudar:  ls a*
[03:29] <legodude> ls | less
[03:30] <Renegade15> thank you very, very much Dragnslcr
[03:30] <Renegade15> got rid of it
[03:30] <legodude> ben: does that persist when you reboot?
[03:30] <kudar> there is adept_manager
[03:30] <kudar> legodude:  there is adept_manager and adept_installer
[03:30] <kudar> and adept_updater
[03:30] <legodude> kudar: are you on an older version of kubuntu?
[03:31] <ben> yeah, i just rebooted
[03:31] <ben> btw, I'm on Hardy
[03:32] <kudar> what coomands to update to the latest?
[03:32] <kudar> or find out what i have now
[03:32] <legodude> kudar: I would try running sudo adept_manager
[03:32] <legodude> ben: I really don't know enough to help, sorry
[03:33] <kudar> legodude:  thanks
[03:36] <ben> ah well, thanks anyway
[03:39] <kudar>  why wouldn't linux-backports-modules-intrepid be available?
[03:39] <crimsun> kudar: it is.
[03:41] <kudar> its not on my adept list
[03:42] <kudar> and i cant get it from command line eeither
[03:42] <kudar> crimsun: how should go about getting it?
[03:42] <legodude> have you updated?
[03:43] <kudar> apt update?.
[03:43] <legodude> apt-get update
[03:43] <legodude> after you enable a new repo
[03:44] <kudar> oh, i haven't enabled new repo
[03:44] <kudar> what is intrep repo?
[03:44] <legodude> gots to enable backports
[03:44] <kudar> eh, im nub
[03:45] <crimsun> it's not in backports
[03:46] <legodude> no?
[03:46] <crimsun> linux-backports-modules-intrepid | 2.6.27.9.13 | intrepid-updates | amd64, i386
[03:46] <crimsun> linux-backports-modules-intrepid | 2.6.27.11.14 | intrepid-proposed | amd64, i386
[03:46] <legodude> ah
[03:46] <legodude> there it is
[03:49] <szrhawaii> my knetwork manager isnt doing a static ip rather its doing a manual is there a file i need to make knetwork have the static ip for my ethernet available
[03:54] <xibo> Na Noo Na Noo
[03:59] <KrAmMeR> so by accient, i did this to my toolbar:
[03:59] <KrAmMeR> right click on panel -> remove from panel -> applet -> all
[04:00] <KrAmMeR> of course it removed everything except for my program links in the bar
[04:00] <legodude> re-add them?
[04:00] <KrAmMeR> i dont even have my window space or current apps running
[04:00] <legodude> or reformat reinstall
[04:00] <legodude> one of those two :P
[04:00] <KrAmMeR> yeah i can re-add some of them
[04:01] <KrAmMeR> but i can't seem to find/re-add the ones for your workspace, or current apps running
[04:01] <lninjox> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVoz59-WUp0&feature=channel
[04:02] <KrAmMeR> and also minimized windows dissapear (yes they disappear normally, but they are gone from the taskbar too)
[04:04] <legodude> KrAmMeR: pager
[04:04] <legodude> is one
[04:05] <legodude> task manager
[04:05] <legodude> is the other
[04:05] <legodude> those two are all you need?
[04:05] <KrAmMeR> ah
[04:05] <KrAmMeR> yes
[04:05] <KrAmMeR> thak you
[04:06] <legodude> I had the exact same problem a short while ago
[04:06] <KrAmMeR> i was like nooooooooo
[04:07] <KrAmMeR> oh wait
[04:08] <KrAmMeR> where is the one that put the icons the taskbar, of the app still running
[04:08] <KrAmMeR> lets say if you close the window out
[04:08] <KrAmMeR> but its still running
[04:10] <KrAmMeR> got it
[04:10] <KrAmMeR> system tray
[04:10] <liz_> hello all, I'm having trouble with kubuntu hardy, I don't have sound and when checking for the sound driver konsole states "snd_ not found" Any suggestions??
[04:11] <lninjox> no sound been there good luck
[04:11] <lninjox> first try installing als
[04:11] <lninjox> alsa
[04:11] <crimsun> lninjox: you don't need to (re)install alsa; kubuntu includes it by default
[04:11] <crimsun> err
[04:11] <crimsun> liz_: ^
[04:11] <lninjox> means sound card missing
[04:12] <liz_> right alsa is already on here
[04:12] <lninjox> maybe thats why my sound works now went a year with no sound
[04:12] <lninjox> theres lots of troubleshooting tutorials
[04:12] <liz_> wanted to see if installing intel8x0 would help recognize it
[04:12] <lninjox> ubuntuforums.org
[04:13] <liz_> sound was working fine with dapper
[04:13] <crimsun> liz_: we've put together a debugging script. Please download http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh, save it to your Desktop, and execute it from a Konsole with: bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh
[04:13] <lninjox> wish they had that a year ago
[04:13] <frogonwheels> liz_:  I'm finally up and going with surround sound with the latest release, without issues.
[04:13] <lninjox> kubuntu rocks!
[04:13] <liz_> cool will certainly try that :)
[04:14] <frogonwheels> liz_: certainly make sure the correct drivers are loaded will help
[04:14] <liz_> will be back to tell all the outcome lol
[04:14] <crimsun> liz_: it generates a URL, really. just tell us the URL.
[04:14] <frogonwheels> liz_: put the module in /etc/modules if you have to force the issue
[04:14] <lninjox> question
[04:14] <lninjox> how can i create a database in mysql from the command line is that possible?
[04:15] <werdnum> of course
[04:15] <lninjox> what are the best programming enviroments on the linux platform besides eclipse and quanta
[04:16] <liz_> frogonwheels: was trying to put the module with "sudo modprobe snd-" but it fails saying snd not found :-/... now trying the debugging script
[04:16] <werdnum> lninjox: a text editor.
[04:16] <lninjox> right
[04:16] <lninjox> nothing like visual studio??
[04:17] <werdnum> ew, visual studio is far too heavy for me, but look at KDevelop.
[04:17] <lninjox> thanks
[04:17] <beachsurfin> !graphics
[04:17] <beachsurfin> !nvidia
[04:18] <lninjox> how can an average joe contribute to kubuntu
[04:18] <crimsun> lninjox: helping via irc, writing documentation, triaging bugs, packaging/maintaining software, ...
[04:19] <lninjox> how do i get in contact with someone to contribute to an assignment
[04:20] <crimsun> lninjox: what do you mean by "assignment"?
[04:20] <liz_> crimsun: now states that my info is at: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=98dfb972f3b8706e3e3c1a7d009fe410f155b160
[04:20] <lninjox> like writing documentation is something i could do on forums?
[04:21] <crimsun> lninjox: well, actually you'll want to see the #ubuntu-doc irc channel
[04:21] <crimsun> liz_: sec
[04:21] <kudar> crimsun: what repository do i need to enable for intrepid?
[04:22] <liz_> crimsun: no prob
[04:22] <lninjox> thanks again
[04:22] <frogonwheels> liz_:  that's a cousin to what I have.
[04:22] <frogonwheels> liz_: looks like it is all loaded..
[04:23] <crimsun> liz_: and you're just using the normal line/speaker-out jack, correct?
[04:23] <liz_> frogonwheels: that's a good thing then, and bad because it isn't working lol
[04:23] <frogonwheels> liz_:  run the mixer.. enable a few more channels
[04:24] <frogonwheels> Settings/Configure Channels
[04:24] <liz_> crimsun: I think so
[04:24] <frogonwheels> make sure it isn't muted
[04:24] <liz_> frogonwheels: it isn't muted I triple checked
[04:24] <crimsun> liz_: ok, so i'll walk you through setting a few mixer elements
[04:24] <liz_> crimsun: i'm on a laptop, integrated speakers, sorry
[04:25] <crimsun> liz_: no problem. first thing to type in your Konsole: amixer -c0 set 'IEC958' mute
[04:26] <liz_> k done
[04:26] <crimsun> liz_: after that, please type this: speaker-test -Dplughw:0 -c2
[04:27] <crimsun> please tell us if that test is audible (it should alternate between your left and right speakers)
[04:27] <liz_> I hear nothing
[04:27] <crimsun> liz_: ok, and now, i presume you're not testing headphones but the internal speakers on the laptop, correct?
[04:28] <liz_> correct
[04:28] <nixternal> man, I just typed that speaker-test line and it scared the crap out of me!!!!
[04:28] <liz_> nixternal: lol
[04:28] <crimsun> liz_: ok, now type in a Konsole: amixer -c0 set 'Line Jack Sense' unmute
[04:28] <liz_> crimsun: it doesn't stop testing?
[04:29] <crimsun> liz_: no, it loops indefinitely. you'll need to send it the interrupt, term, or kill signal.
[04:29] <crimsun> (ctrl+c is pretty standard)
[04:30] <liz_> crimsun: thanks, and command done
[04:30] <crimsun> liz_: please reattempt the speaker-test command
[04:31] <liz_> crimsun: nada :(
[04:31] <lninjox> i wish i had your help a year ago didnt know about these commands
[04:32] <crimsun> liz_: ok, now we'll revert the previous setting. Type: amixer -c0 set 'Line Jack Sense' mute && amixer -c0 set 'Headphone Jack Sense' mute
[04:33] <crimsun> liz_: (after that, please reattempt the speaker-test command)
[04:34] <lninjox> hope you get it working good nite all
[04:35] <liz_> crimsun: still nothing
[04:35] <crimsun> liz_: ok, try: amixer -c0 set 'External Amplifier' mute
[04:35] <liz_> ok
[04:36] <crimsun> liz_: (and reattempt the speaker-test)
[04:36] <Masterspry> hello... i want to Remove the beta of KDE 4.2 how can i do that?
[04:36] <dr_willis> How did you install it?
[04:37] <liz_> I hear sound!
[04:37] <crimsun> liz_: awesome.
[04:37] <Masterspry> um...well i went to the site and got the deb thing and sudo and so on.
[04:37] <crimsun> i love it when nine year-old bugs come back to bite one in the arse
[04:37] <liz_> crimsun: so it worked!!! alright!
[04:37] <Masterspry> well actually no a upgrade happen.
[04:37] <liz_> so now sound should play right, I'ma test it
[04:38] <Masterspry> also i having problems with sound as well?
[04:38] <Masterspry> like i wanna play some music but no sound,
[04:39] <dr_willis> If you used the package manager/debs to install it. You could use the package manager to remove it..  Hopefully it wont remove anything you wanted to keep. BUt you could always reainstall those parts.
[04:39] <dr_willis> What do you want to use Instead of KDE?
[04:39] <liz_> crimsun: Thanks a million!!! :)
[04:39] <crimsun> liz_: yw
[04:39] <Masterspry> i just want the stable one back that's all.
[04:40] <dr_willis> clarify 'stable one' You mean 4.2? or 3.5?
[04:40] <Masterspry> yes 4.1
[04:40] <Masterspry> not 4.2 is beta,
[04:40] <ltmon> hey all. in kde 4.2 beta, does anyone know in which package the Weather plasmoid data engine resides? Neither of the weather plasmoids (LCD Weather and the normal one) can find a data engine for weather.
[04:41] <kudar_> how to enable third party sources
[04:43] <dr_willis> which ones kudar_
[04:43] <dr_willis> !medibuntu
[04:43] <ltmon> Masterspry: Downgrading with apt-get is never particularly straightforward, especially when you need to do the entire desktop.
[04:43] <kudar_> i dont know, im upgrading from hardy to intrep
[04:43] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[04:43] <kudar_> and it says i have third party sources disabled
[04:43] <dr_willis> They should be disabled for upgradeing..
[04:43] <kudar_> oh, ok
[04:43] <kudar_> good
[04:43] <dr_willis> then you reenable them after upgrading
[04:44] <dr_willis>  third party sources   can goof up upgrades
[04:45] <kudar_> rgr
[05:31] <surgy> hello
[05:31] <surgy> so i hosed my buntu install again
[05:31] <surgy> 8.04 is still the lattest and greatest right?
[05:33] <surgy> or is 8.10 the lattest stable release?
[05:33] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[05:33] <silv3r_m00n> i got some themes from kde-looks ... but i think they need to be compiled... where can i get drag drop install themes for kde ?
[05:47] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[05:47] <surgy> anyone answer my question?
[05:54] <xethx> Can anyone recomend a good video conversion program for converting MKV to AVI?
[05:55] <frogonwheels> will transcode (cli) do it?
[05:56] <acetoline> hi guys, I installed compiz-kde and adept reports no problems, but it reverts to the default KDE.
[05:56] <acetoline> I checked the debug output and it says the GLX extension is missing
[05:57] <acetoline> but nvidia-glx is installed.
[05:57] <acetoline> what's the problem?
[05:59] <acetoline> my graphics card is based on an nvidia GeForce FX 5200 chip
[06:00] <acetoline> it might also be worth mentioning that opengl seems really slow.
[06:09] <xethx> Can anyone recomend a good video conversion program for converting MKV to AVI?
[06:12] <acetoline> I'm pretty much a n00b, I'd appreciate help.
[06:12] <bazhang> xethx, what size mkv you talking about
[06:12] <xethx> 380 meg roughly
[06:13] <bazhang> xethx, you care about the resulting size being bigger?
[06:13] <xethx> not at all
[06:13] <bazhang> ffmpeg then xethx
[06:13] <xethx> thanks, is it simple to use?
[06:14] <bazhang> well it is cli, so simple is  a relative term; ffmpeg convert mkv avi (3rd result, the ubuntuforums one)
[06:15] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627455
[06:15] <xethx> thanks
[06:16] <bazhang> acetoline, which driver are you using (from hardware drivers)
[06:17] <acetoline> bazhang, how can I tell?
[06:18] <bazhang> acetoline, this is version 8.10?
[06:18] <acetoline> 8.04
[06:18] <Mamarok> !grub
[06:18] <bazhang> should be in 'restricted drivers' then system administration acetoline
[06:19] <acetoline> ok, after I find that out what should I do?
[06:19] <butchmad> i just want to ask.. Is Kubuntu better than Ubuntu?
[06:20] <butchmad> What is the difference?
[06:20] <bazhang> butchmad, just different, one uses gnome and one uses kde
[06:20] <xethx> [Rumbel]_Soul_Eater_-_15_[H264][Uncut][153A0DB1].mkv: memory allocation error occured
[06:20] <mefisto__> what can I use to create a multipage pdf from multiple png images?
[06:21] <butchmad> bazhang, which gui is the most stable? or are they both equal, just a different look.
[06:22] <butchmad> mefisto, Scribus
[06:23] <bazhang> butchmad, you should check the screenshots and decide for yourself, both system are stable as long as the user is careful about keeping to the repos, not installing a lot of 3rd party stuff etc
[06:23] <butchmad> bazhang, thanks for your advice.
[06:24] <adrian> buenas
[06:24] <bazhang> http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/index.php butchmad lots of screenshots <----
[06:25] <acetoline> bazhang, still with me? :p
[06:26] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[06:26] <silv3r_m00n> in kde openoffice shows only text in the toolbars
[06:26] <silv3r_m00n> no icons
[06:26] <butchmad> bazhang, indeed. thanks
[06:26] <silv3r_m00n> how can i fix this ?
[06:28] <xethx> The file im attempting to convert has embedded subtitles, could this be the reason it will not convert properly?
[06:28] <bazhang> silv3r_m00n, koffice?
[06:29] <silv3r_m00n> bazhang: what abt openoffice ?
[06:29] <szrhawaii> can anyone help me figure out somethings with the manual ip configuration whats the gateway and how do i fid that and also what is dns addresses
[06:29] <bazhang> silv3r_m00n, you say kde openoffice?
[06:30] <silv3r_m00n> i mean openoffice.org
[06:30] <silv3r_m00n> in KDE desktop the toolbars show only text
[06:30] <silv3r_m00n> no icons
[06:37] <sparr> There does not seem to be a way to disable a single automatically detected mode (resolution + refresh rate) by way of xorg.conf.  Is there some way to remove an incorrectly detected mode later, manually perhaps?
[06:37] <silv3r_m00n> bazhang: ok i fixed that by installing openoffice-org-styles..
[06:37] <bazhang> silv3r_m00n, nicely done
[06:45] <surgy> whats the lattest vesion of kubuntu?
[06:45] <surgy> 8.04 ?
[06:45] <surgy> ! kubuntu version
[06:45] <Daisuke_Ido> !intrepid | surgy
[06:46] <surgy> and i can mount that via acetone and install it without a cd right?
[06:46] <Daisuke_Ido> just download the alternate cd and use it as a repo to upgrade.
[06:47] <surgy> no no
[06:47] <Daisuke_Ido> you can't do a clean install unless you burn a cd.
[06:47] <surgy> i want a fresh install
[06:47] <surgy> oh ok
[06:47] <surgy> thnx
[07:01] <turuburu> hi guys
[07:01] <turuburu> any way to synchronize kontact with windows mobile 6?
[07:40] <ubuntu_> oh god i am not good with computers how did this get here?
[07:47] <fale> Sono occorsi degli errori processando: |||| /var/cache/apt/archives/kmouth_4%3a4.1.85-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1_i386.deb
[07:47] <fale> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |||| fale@debian:~/Scrivania$ ||||... someone knows why?
[07:53] <kubuntwo> fale: try sudo apt-get install -f
[07:54] <kubuntwo> fale: if it doesnt work try to remove the packet by hand using dpkg --remove kmouth then again sudo apt-get install -f
[07:54] <fale> ok, thx kubuntwo :)
[07:55] <kubuntwo> fale: welcome. ;)
[07:57] <fale> kubuntwo: it says it can not remove kmounth because kdeaccessibility depends from it :(
[07:58] <kubuntwo> fale: so remove kdeaccessibility first. but attention. i dont know this packet. keep your eyes and watch which packages will be automaticly removed if you uninstall it :)
[07:59] <kubuntwo> fale: i had problems like this too. so i had to remove the "failed packets" and each dependency  by hand until the problem was resolved
[08:00] <fale> kubuntwo: same error as before: I reinstalled kmouth but the first error is still there
[08:01] <kubuntwo> fale: hmm strange. maybe the packet have an error. you can try to check the bugtracker. maybe its a known bug in the packet? i cant imagine thats your setup which produces an error while installing
[08:04] <fale>  tentata sovrascrittura di `/usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/apps/kmouth.svgz', che si trova anche nel pacchetto kde-icons-mono
[08:07] <kubuntwo> can you translate it? :)
[08:07] <fale> kubuntwo: it says that is trying to rewrite that file that is owned by kde-icon-mono
[08:08] <frogonwheels> fale: oh fun
[08:08] <frogonwheels> fale: this is a whole barrel of laughs. NOT.
[08:08] <kubuntwo> fale: oh. if this causes the error try a cheat :) go and rename the file which is the problem. try to reinstall :)
[08:09] <frogonwheels> nah.. won't work.
[08:09] <frogonwheels> and there'll be a whole bunch of them.
[08:09] <kubuntwo> true
[08:09] <frogonwheels> fale: you either need to add a redirect for each icon that misbehaves..
[08:09] <frogonwheels> fale: or try removing kde-icon-mono
[08:09] <frogonwheels> it might be just an upgrade path thing.
[08:10] <frogonwheels> I've encountered this kinda thing before .. with icons too.
[08:10] <frogonwheels> it's a pain but not insurmountable.
[08:10] <frogonwheels> fale:  the program to 'divert' is dpkg-divert
[08:12] <fale> frogonwheels: mmm.. I'll try with it
[08:13] <frogonwheels> fale: good luck.  on the dpkg-divert path you might have to write a script :(  ..   for in /usr/share/icon.../*.svgz ; do ; dpkg-divert ....
[08:14] <fale> that's sad
[08:14] <frogonwheels> try uninstalling the icons first
[08:14] <frogonwheels> .. or perhaps upgrading them?
[08:15] <frogonwheels> there will have been a decision somewhere to move the icons around..
[08:18] <fale> I found a better way :)
[08:18] <fale> sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/kmouth_4%3a4.1.85-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1_i386.deb
[08:21] <holycow> yey for project neon
[08:21] <holycow> 4.2 is so nice
[08:21] <holycow> a bit buggy at this stage but to be expected
[08:23] <frogonwheels> phew fale
[08:36] <holycow> does anyone here know how to get kopete from project neon kde nightlies to recognize the qce-tls plugin?
[08:37] <holycow> i've installed it from the repos but i think the problem is that it's not symlinked to the new install location for this kde testing environment
[08:43] <snarkster> ive got some strange things going on.. when i start a wine game kwin crashes and continues to crash. the games still works just require some alt-tabing to get back to it.
[08:44] <guiterb> somebody here?
[08:44] <snarkster> no just us night owls
[08:45] <guiterb> what' the time?
[08:45] <snarkster> !time
[08:45] <snarkster> 0145
[08:45] <snarkster> what difference does it make tho? time is realtive.
[08:58] <alexm> Всем привет. Рускоязычные есть?
[09:25] <Salze_> How can I solve these blocks? http://pastebin.ca/1291359
[09:37] <turuburu> any way to synchronize kontact with windows mobile 6?
[09:59] <lupine_85> Halp, plasma keeps dying on me
[09:59] <lupine_85> most inconvenient :p
[10:01] <lupine_85> a-ha, go tit
[10:01] <lupine_85> got it*
[10:01] <lupine_85> don't trust ruby-cpufreq
[10:05] <sg> hello
[10:06] <sg> can some one help me with a small issue with KMail
[10:07] <sg> No one to help me on Kmail
[10:08]  * lupine_85 hides from kmail
[10:25] <heinkel_111> sg what the problem is?
[10:26] <heinkel_111> if uou don't present your problem you can't expect much help
[10:41] <d_mitry> apt-get tells me that make is one of the packages that was automatically installed and is no longer required. should i be convinced? also, i want to remove all packages associated with printing. apt-get says that kubuntu-desktop is one of those that has to be removed. should i continue?
[10:43] <bazhang> d_mitry, that is just a meta-package; you can reinstall when you are ready to upgrade to the next version--it is perfectly safe to remove
[10:43] <bazhang> !metapackage
[10:43] <d_mitry> thanks.
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> hey guys
[10:51] <d_mitry> safe to remove? http://paste.ubuntu.com/90708/plain/
[10:53] <manu__> one question please, i've installed ubuntu 8.04 cause I want kde 3, if I update to 8.10 KDE will be updated to 4?
[10:53] <jackd> manu__: yes i think so.
[10:54] <d_mitry> it will be indeed.
[10:54] <manu__> ok, thx
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> d_mitry: if you grab the source of kde3.5 you can compile it and you will have kde3.5 with intrepid
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> manu__: read above
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> d_mitry: sorry wrong targe
[10:55] <manu__> it's not necessary, it's ok thx, the only problem I have with hardy is the brightness
[10:55] <manu__> thx for the info guys
[10:55] <manu__> see u
[11:07] <kudar> ActionParsnip, kudar@ubuntu-trevor:~$ sudo adept
[11:07] <kudar> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-kudar" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[11:07] <kudar> Error: "/tmp/kde-kudar" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[11:07] <kudar> ?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> kudar: what are you trying to achieve?
[11:10] <kudar> open adept
[11:10] <kudar> i just upgraded to intrepid
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> kudar: oic
[11:10] <kudar> kubuntu 810
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> try: sudo chown yourusernamehere /tmp/kde-kudar
[11:11] <kudar> also noticted that i cant connect to my wpa wireless anymore
[11:11] <kudar> since the upgrade
[11:11] <kudar> open wireless from neighbors works fine
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> kudar: you may need to reinstall the wpa supplicant and reinstall wifi drivers for your new kernel
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> oh
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> yeah then you'll need to reinstall wpa supplicant
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> and check its config
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> kudar: have youo tried renaming the file thats in error?
[11:15] <kudar> ActionParsnip, what file are you spe aking of?
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> /tmp/kde-kudar as well as /var/tmp/kdecache-kudar
[11:16] <kudar> no
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> try renaming it using sudo mv then retry, if it is no good, rename back
[11:20] <kudar> ActionParsnip, what third party sources should i add now that ive upgraded?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> kudar: depends on your system use
[11:21] <kudar> im just in learning mode
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> kudar: i take it the rename was good?
[11:21] <OxDeadC0de> fyi the ruby cpufreq plasmoid has been updated.. new interface, looks better, works better.. still has a bug when in the taskbar but still useable.. (I can't find the right thing to resize...). Right click on desktop, add widgets, install new widgets, download from internet, Cpu Freq Selector Ruby.. Comments welcome, even "You suck!"
[11:21] <kudar> im unsure how to perform the rename you speak of
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> kudar: well i'm guessing now you have upgraded its all ok with adept?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> OxDeadC0de: i couldnt comment as i use fluxbox so I'll comment with "widgets clutter the desktop"
[11:23] <kudar> '
[11:23] <kudar> 'could not obtain a write lock on the cache'
[11:23] <kudar> adept opens in read-only mode
[11:24] <kudar> when i sudo adept
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> kudar: kdesudo adept
[11:24] <OxDeadC0de> actionparsnip this one doesn't :P, just a button with text in it that's updated 2x a second.. when you press it it unhides a window with some tabs and scrollable list box's inside the tabs, with governors in one tabs list, and frequencies in the other tabs.. click 1 to activate.. the button is updated with the current cpu frequency
[11:24] <kudar> same thing
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> kudar: if you know the name of what you wish to install: sudo apt-get install <app name>
[11:24] <OxDeadC0de> and is 100x29 (I'm guessing pixels)
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> OxDeadC0de: i like zero icons
[11:47] <d_mitry> [art
[11:47] <d_mitry> oops.
[11:58] <Reptile> I have suddenly missing fonts in certain applications like Kopete, Kaffeine etc.
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> !font | Reptile
[11:59] <Reptile> Not all fonts are missing but mainly menu fonts
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Reptile: if you install them it may add one thats missing
[12:08] <Reptile> I have these fonts installed
[12:08] <Reptile> When I click on a menu item it first shows text but then it dissappears
[12:09] <Reptile> I same font settings on my laptop there it works fine
[12:09] <Reptile> ActionParsnip?
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> ??
[12:12] <levidos> 3
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Reptile: try reinstalling them, it may help
[12:12] <Reptile> I did
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Reptile: try making sure the apps are pointing to the fonts folder
[12:13] <Reptile> How do I do that
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> Reptile: check the config of the app, see if theres a setting
[12:14] <hellsing> question  not about linux : what will you put in a mail in response to a job career?
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> !ot | hellsing
[12:15] <hellsing> oh thx :)
[12:15] <Salze> How can I solve these blocks? http://pastebin.ca/1291359
[12:15] <dr_willis> vague question  anyway hellsing
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> Salze: if you cd /var/cache/apt/archives then run sudo dpkg -i but with some force options they will install. I'm guessing the errors are regarding files that cant be overwritten as they are already installed as part of another package
[12:25] <Salze> Yes, that's the reason...and the solution I already did with beta 1. Back then I thought that would not be a normal situation. :-D
[12:25] <Salze> Thank you.
[12:27] <Andrew``> hey all.. am using Kubuntu 8.10 and amarok... I want to upgrade to 2.0 and followed the instructions on http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.0 but it wont upgrade.. can anyone help me?
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> !neon | Andrew'
[12:33] <apachelogger> ActionParsnip: wth?
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> apachelogger: ?
[12:34] <apachelogger> ActionParsnip: neon is providing trunk builds and hardly (read: not at all) recommendable to regular users
[12:35] <apachelogger> Andrew``: what happens when you run sudo apt-get install amarok-kde4 on a console?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> apachelogger: well Andrew`` is installing it and thats the support channel for it
[12:35] <apachelogger> Andrew``: `sudo apt-get install amarok-kde4` is the command, just to be clear
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> apachelogger: plus if more people use it, more errors / bugs get logged
[12:36] <apachelogger> ActionParsnip: Andrew is installing Amarok 2.0
[12:36] <apachelogger> ActionParsnip: no, Amarok doesn't have a call-home-"feature" so there is not any logging going on
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Andrew``: http://amarok.kde.org/de/node/485
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> apachelogger: cthen surely releasing it is pointless as it wont be supported?
[12:37] <apachelogger> righto
[12:38] <Andrew``> apachelogger, http://paste.ubuntu.com/90758/    shoudl I continue?
[12:38] <apachelogger> ActionParsnip: and know we take a look at the URLs ubottu spit out earlier and then we wonder if it really makes sense to argue with me about the particular use case of noen
[12:38] <apachelogger> Andrew``: yes
[12:41] <Andrew``> wow thanks apachelogger  :)
[12:43] <saleem> Hi
[12:43] <saleem> Wha's up
[12:43] <saleem> i got a problem
[12:43] <solenskiner> hey
[12:43] <solenskiner> yeah me too
[12:43] <saleem> Any body can help me
[12:43] <solenskiner> im having some trouble installing katapult, is it not in repositorys?
[12:43] <saleem> My taks manager in kde
[12:44] <saleem> Is diapeared
[12:44] <solenskiner> and, trying to install it from source, i get the error configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[12:44] <apachelogger> Andrew``: you're welcome, have fun :)
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> apachelogger: some people like to use bleeding edge nightly builds
[12:44] <solenskiner> saleem, wish i could help.. but im new to kde4
[12:45] <saleem> Ty dude
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> saleem: do you mean plasma is gone, or that when you minimmise apps it vanishes?
[12:45] <saleem> Yeah
[12:45] <saleem> when i minimize the apps
[12:45] <saleem> they disapear
[12:46] <apachelogger> solenskiner: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> saleem: right click on plasma and add a widget
[12:46] <saleem> Ok
[12:46] <saleem> What kinda wiget
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> saleem: you need to add the task lister or program lister or something like that
[12:46] <saleem> Aha
[12:46] <saleem> Wait
[12:46] <umarzuki> join #kde
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> saleem: it may be program lister
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> saleem: its one of those
[12:46] <saleem> Well
[12:46] <apachelogger> *cough* task manager *cough*
[12:47] <apachelogger> :P
[12:47] <saleem> Nice
[12:47] <saleem> solved
[12:47] <saleem> ty
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> bam
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> np man
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> i dont use kwin so im no use there
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> thanks for the input apachelogger
[12:48] <_2> what is the cause of this error, starting epiphany ** (epiphany:5012): WARNING **: Unable to connect to session bus: Unable to determine the address of the message bus
[12:49] <solenskiner> anyone willing/cunning to help me with my gcc error?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> _2: sudo apt-get install dbus-1-utils
[12:49] <_2> ActionParsnip already installed
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> _2: sudo apt-get --reinstall install dbus-1-utils
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> _2: just to try
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> _2: http://www.mail-archive.com/epiphany-list@gnome.org/msg00986.html
[12:51] <_2> same error after reinstall
[12:51] <saleem> #ubuntu
[12:51] <saleem> Lol
[12:52] <_2> btw dbus is running
[12:52] <solenskiner> apachelogger, thanks!
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> _2: try restarting it
[12:53] <_2> already did, no change
[12:54] <_2> oh wait,  i think i may see something in that post.   " Ahh, right, the session bus is started when you log in to X, not via the  'dbus' init script, so you will need to log out and login."   i don't login so that may be an issue
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> sounds likely
[12:55] <_2> how can one start dbus manually ?
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> not sure, check /etc/init.d maybe
[12:56] <_2> according to what you posted ^ that only starts the daemon  which is running,  but i need the "session bus"  to start now...
[12:56] <gentlyninja> how can i show the content of the desktop folder on the desktop?
[12:57] <dr_willis> Theres a  'show directory' plasmid widget for that gentlyninja  - point it to /home/username/Desktop
[12:57] <solenskiner> where can i find a .deb for katapult?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> solenskiner: its been deprecated in intrepid
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> solenskiner: you could compile it ten create a deb from the result
[12:59] <solenskiner> ActionParsnip: why? yeah that was my 2nd plan
[12:59] <solenskiner> ActionParsnip: checkinstall still the per performance simplest way?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> solenskiner: krunner superceeds it
[13:00] <solenskiner> ActionParsnip: ok.. ill look in to that
[13:00] <_2> # /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session
[13:04] <_2> that works i can make a warper for epiphany   with this line   /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session epiphany.real
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> nice
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> looks decent :)
[13:07] <_2> thanks for that post,   i had looked at several things but nothing had clicked that the daemon was seperate from the actual session bus
[13:09] <yellow> tag
[13:09] <_2> well that solved the only known issue on the entire box...   what will i do now o.O
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> _2: i'm like that too bro
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> _2: sucks
[13:10] <_2> pfft i'll go visit the real world, it has plenty of problems.
[13:10] <_2> :)
[13:10] <_2> gooday   and thanks for the fish.
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> np man
[13:20] <kudar> what is package name for wpa-supplicant?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> !info wpasupplicant
[13:25] <RobertLaptop> Network Manager isn't auto connecting under 8.10 like it did on 8.4 were do I find the settings to fix that?
[13:27] <amerigo> hello... kubuntu boot in text style... how can I resume GUI
[13:30] <Raidenovich> amerigo, try sudo startx
[13:30] <amerigo> azz... i've tried all combination, but no startx
[13:30] <amerigo> :-)
[13:31] <Raidenovich> does it work?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> Raidenovich: not advisable
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> Raidenovich: running x server as sudo is not very good in a security sense
[13:32] <Raidenovich> aw :S
[13:32] <stdin> RobertLaptop: make sure to click the "Autoconnect" button when you connect
[13:33] <RobertLaptop> stdin I have.  I wired up a wired connection because the new laptop wireless seemed unstable and still seeing issues with my connections.
[13:33] <amerigo> INFACT IT WON'T WORK
[13:33] <amerigo> sorry uppercase
[13:34] <stdin> RobertLaptop: so it's not connecting to a wired connection?
[13:34] <amerigo> now screen got some errore
[13:34] <RobertLaptop> stdin yea.  If under knetwork manager I manually pull up the connection it does but not without me doing something
[13:34] <amerigo> ActionParsnip: i've try to add a secondary screen...
[13:35] <amerigo> ActionParsnip: but it didn't works, and dimension of font and immage was bigger
[13:36] <RobertLaptop> stdin I am begining to think it is something with this laptop.  The nic has power management issues so that might be way.
[13:37] <stdin> RobertLaptop: wired connections should automatically come up on boot (if they use DHCP), I don't think network manager does anything special with them
[13:37] <RobertLaptop> Stdin my main laptop is out for repairs so I pick up a cheap laptop from walmart to until I get my main one back.
[13:38] <zorael> When compiling something from source to build .deb packages, what file(s) do I edit to increment the version string? Like, "1:7.4~5ubuntu3".
[13:39] <amerigo> now screen is in text style
[13:41] <stdin> zorael: debian/changelog
[13:42] <amerigo> hello... kubuntu 8.10 on my laptop boot in text style... how can I resume GUI ... i've try to add a secondary screen but it didn't works ... now screen got some error and it is in text style ....  doing startX it won't work
[13:42] <zorael> stdin: Awesome, thanks, will give that a go
[13:43] <Raidenovich> amerigo did you change /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[13:43] <Raidenovich> to add the secondary screen
[13:44] <amerigo> Raidenovich: no i've do it from system configuration panel
[13:57] <torero> !ru
[13:59] <umarzuki> !ms
[13:59] <umarzuki> hehe
[13:59] <umarzuki> !kde4
[14:10] <amerigo> anybody ca help me with video trouble?
[14:13] <amerigo> hello... kubuntu 8.10 on my laptop boot in text style... how can I resume GUI ... i've try to add a secondary screen but it didn't works ... now screen got some error and it is in text style ....  doing startX it won't work
[14:13] <SlimeyPete> check the xorg logs in /var/log for error
[14:13] <amerigo> now i've copied xorg.conf.failsafe to xorg.conf ... because graphical mode won't start
[14:13] <SlimeyPete> *errors
[14:14] <amerigo> now i am in graphical mode
[14:14] <amerigo> but screen is little
[14:15] <amerigo> i've a laptop with back border around
[14:15] <amerigo> black border sorry
[14:16] <amerigo> SlimeyPete: still right to check /var/log errors?
[14:21] <prem> HI All
[14:21] <prem> downloaded kubuntu 9.04 I created a Live USB disk, and installed on a machine capable of booting from USB, now I would like to install on a system without usbboot, unfortunately I deleted the cd image, is there a way I recreate the cd image from USB?
[14:34] <kamerigo> ! graphic card
[14:35] <kamerigo> ! graphic
[14:35] <kamerigo> umm
[14:35] <kamerigo> ! video driver
[14:35] <kamerigo> ! driver
[14:35] <kamerigo> ! video
[14:38] <kamerigo> help me!!! .... my laptop video now is bordered with a black stripe ... and at centre kubuntu desktop like it work perfectly
[14:39] <ibrar> Any body knows how I can have resulation more than 1024X768 on my lenovo T60?
[14:42] <vorakl> hi all
[14:43] <vorakl> how to create fluxbox in kde ?
[14:44] <vorakl> i just trying to click fluxbox but no result
[14:44] <vorakl> help me plizzz
[14:47] <k-unker> hello
[14:57] <Guest17564> hi
[15:12] <karlheinz> How to mount an existing partition from windows with an entry in the fstab. Or which option is missing here.
[15:12] <karlheinz>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/90844/
[15:12] <karlheinz> It should be mounted automatically at boot up
[15:19] <karlheinz> Well does anyone know anything about this?
[15:20] <karlheinz> Could write mount -a in the autostart of kde, but i don't think thats the best solution
[15:23] <ibrar>  Any body knows how I can have resulation more than 1024X768 on my lenovo T60???
[15:23] <trappist> karlheinz: check dmesg for info about why it's not mounted at bootup
[15:23] <trappist> ibrar: that's an intel video card, right?
[15:23] <ibrar> yes
[15:24] <trappist> I did it before... trying to remember how.  it was tricky.
[15:24] <karlheinz> what could i grep for?
[15:24] <ibrar> It will be great if you tell me
[15:24] <trappist> karlheinz: maybe grep -i ntfs, or the device name
[15:25] <karlheinz> there is no result
[15:25] <trappist> ibrar: it's been a while, and it was on an older ubuntu release.  I'm pretty sure I had to upgrade my intel video drivers, which should be in intrepid by now
[15:28] <ibrar> trappis: :( so what step should i do ?
[15:28] <ibrar> trappist :( so what step should i do ?
[15:29] <ibrar> trappist: how much big resultion you achived?
[15:30] <trappist> ibrar: I'm afraid I don't remember any of that.  I only spoke up because I know it can be done, and I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the drivers
[15:48] <Guest20614> is there any application to run application using shortcuts?? as example ctrl+alt+I -> open firefox
[15:49] <Guest20614> I am using kde 8.10 and the kmenu shortcuts are not working so far I know..
[15:57] <eduardo__> #sex
[15:58] <tdn> How do I rip a DVD in Ubuntu?
[15:59] <bazhang> !info ogmrip
[16:00] <bazhang> tdn please dont crosspost in future
[16:01] <RobertMLaptop> question how to you remove the suspend to disk op[tions in 8.10?
[16:01] <RobertMLaptop> kde 4.1 just isn't as easy to use as 3.5
[16:02] <kudar> ifyou have kubuntu with gnome installed too. how do you switch betweeen the two?
[16:05] <stdin> kudar: from the login screen choose either "KDE" or "Gnome" from the menu
[16:06] <RobertMLaptop> stdin is there a way to remove some of the shutdown options?
[16:07] <RobertMLaptop> specifically the suspend to XXX options.  My nic doesn't support power management right so I don't want to by mistake use them?
[16:08] <stdin> RobertMLaptop: not sure, maybe the option "Offer shutdown options" from System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Session Manager
[16:09] <stdin> I haven't tried to see what that does, but looks promising
[16:12] <RobertMLaptop> I will try it.  I will be happy when I can get this box usable
[16:13] <RobertMLaptop> Also is there anyway to increase the size of the taskbar?
[16:15] <stdin> RobertMLaptop: click the cashew
[16:16]  * tackat_ likes peanuts better than cashews
[16:17] <sourcemaker> which IDE are you using for web development? (Netbeans, KDevelop, Quanta,...)?
[16:19] <Serjo> hello, have anybody broadom wifi card?
[16:19] <RobertMLaptop> It doesn't let me resize I will retry to be safe just in case.  Oh that is weird.  You don't resize the main line you resize the overlay on top.  KDE 4.x has so many weird issue with it.
[16:20] <stdin> !broadcom
[16:22] <Serjo> it works, it even gives me lis of networks (#iwlist scan), but how can i connetct withown network manager (I've kubuntu 8.10)
[16:23] <stdin> click the knetworkmanager icon, choose New Connection and the interface, follow the guide
[16:24] <Serjo> no, i am interesting how can i do it in console
[16:25] <stdin> Serjo: you use iwconfig
[16:31] <marko> Ubuntu not identify my audio driver
[16:31] <marko> How can i fix it
[16:31] <marko> Solutions?
[16:32] <koudelka_> hi, how can i make kde not lock the screen when the computer is idle?
[16:42] <slow-motion> hi
[16:47] <usuario> i need some help with headphone issues'
[16:47] <Adola> Pretty noob question - what does that red switch next to where the power plugin place is on the back of my computer.
[16:47] <usuario> im new on ubuntu linux
[16:47] <usuario> isnt it
[16:47] <usuario> theres no box for headphonee
[16:48] <Tm_T> Adola: which says 230 or 115 ?
[16:48] <Adola> Yes sir
[16:48] <Tm_T> Adola: that's voltage selector
[16:48] <Adola> It's on 115.
[16:48] <dr_willis> Dont mess with it. >:)  Unless you change countries.. heh
[16:48] <Adola> If I set it up...My hardware gets more voltage.  Right?  Therefore.  Run faster?
[16:48] <HappySmileMan> 115 for America, 230 for Europe I think
[16:48] <HappySmileMan> Due to difference in power supply
[16:48] <dr_willis> The point of a Power SUPPLY is to give the pc the power it needs
[16:48] <usuario> someone can help me with this?
[16:48] <HappySmileMan> Never change it
[16:49] <Tm_T> Adola: no, i MUST be what your electric system uses
[16:49] <dr_willis> it takes in  whatever you country has.. and gives the pc the 5v 12v or whatever needed
[16:49] <Adola> Ok!
[16:49] <Adola> Thanks!
[16:49] <dr_willis> if you chanbve it to 230 - i imagine it wont run at all.
[16:49] <HappySmileMan> usuario: What do you mean there's no box for headphones?
[16:49] <Tm_T> setting it to wrong voltage may make your hardware a pile of smoke
[16:49] <Tm_T> or anything else fancy
[16:50] <nicholas_> hello where do I get kde 4.2 beta
[16:50] <Adola> Also, I JUST now..Like, this VERY minute just got an OLD laptop (It used to have Win XP.  But, I can't tell you the stats.  As, I JUST got it)  What's the BEST buntu for it?  I LOVE Kubuntu.  But, I've heard Xubuntu is fro crappy machines
[16:50] <usuario> smilleman, theres no options in Kmix to turn on or off headphones ~
[16:50] <tacosarecool> Some people like xfce cause it xfce
[16:50] <HappySmileMan> Oh, not entirely sure then, sorry
[16:51] <HappySmileMan> tacosarecool: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2 for 4.2 Beta 2
[16:51] <HappySmileMan> Instructions there I thinl
[16:52] <usuario> how i fix this?
[16:53] <genii> tacosarecool: I think 4.2 is in the channel /topic
[16:54] <Adola> ~Cough~
[16:54] <matt_d> is there a way to install kubuntu without a cd?
[16:54] <matt_d> in a partition btw
[16:54] <tacosarecool> Ok downloading
[16:54] <tacosarecool> Yes matt
[16:54] <tacosarecool> Wubi
[16:55] <tacosarecool> Just download the iso
[16:55] <matt_d> is the install as good as with a live cd?
[16:55] <tacosarecool> Pretty much
[16:55] <tacosarecool> Faster than a live cd
[16:55] <matt_d> am i able to select which partition i want it to be installed at?
[16:55] <swieta> Hello everybody! I've installed Kubuntu from old cd (7.10). How do I update it to some up-to-date version?
[16:55] <tacosarecool> It's not a partition it's a virtual disc
[16:56] <tacosarecool> But your able to change size depending on how much it thinks you should go up too
[16:56] <usuario> i wanna use headphones!
[16:56] <usuario> no one can help?
[16:56] <tacosarecool> I can
[16:56] <tacosarecool> Sudo alsa-force reload
[16:56] <usuario> thanks
[16:56] <usuario> how i do it?
[16:57] <tacosarecool> and turn up your analog front
[16:57] <matt_d> tacosarecool: i mean, i divided my hd in 2 halfs, i got windows in one and i want kubuntu on the other half (dual boot), so would i be able to install kubuntu on that free space with wubi and do a dual boot?
[16:57] <tacosarecool> Yeah probablyt
[16:57] <usuario> but ubuntu need a password, and i havent it
[16:57] <swieta> UP: how to update 7.10 to new distro. Kubuntu.
[16:57] <usuario> tell another way
[16:57] <tacosarecool> Hmm
[16:57] <tacosarecool> I don't know if you don't have a pass
[16:57] <matt_d> usuario: voce tem que saber a senha do administrador do seu kubuntu
[16:57] <tacosarecool> try just enter
[16:58] <usuario> matt, mas na caixa do kmix, nem aparece a opção headphonee
[16:58] <swieta> ok, what repository should I add to update Kubuntu 7.10 to some new distro (8.10, for example)?
[16:58] <matt_d> usuario: esquece isso agora, quando voce instalou o kubuntu.. ele te pediu para criar alguma senha?
[16:58] <usuario> matt_d já pesquisei em um monte de forum , não achei nada
[16:58] <tacosarecool> I'm probably going to leave soon I'm upgrading so it might close my window
[16:59] <Tm_T> matt_d: usuario: use english or move to spanish channel, please
[16:59] <tacosarecool> usuario
[16:59] <usuario> já veio no pc, por isso não sei a senha @matt_d
[16:59] <matt_d> sorry
[16:59] <usuario> sorry
[16:59] <compuman23> hi
[16:59] <tacosarecool> usuario
[16:59] <compuman23> i would like to creat swf flash file. which program is the best to use for that?
[17:00] <tacosarecool> Can you try not typing your password
[17:00] <tacosarecool> Just press enter
[17:00] <tacosarecool> if you don't have a pass on your account
[17:00] <tacosarecool> Brb
[17:01] <gartt> I'm having trouble with ndiswrapper- I've got a PCI belkin F5D8013 PCMCIA wifi card, and trying to get ndiswrapper even installed. I tried sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper, but that didn't exist. I tried installing from source, but when I tried to make, it complained: Makefile:34: *** Cannot find kernel version in /lib/modules/2.6.22-16-generic/build, is it configured?.  Stop.     This is even after I'd installed the kernel headers using: sudo a
[17:01] <gartt> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
[17:01] <Copelia> !fr
[17:03] <gartt> I seem to be following what I've found in ubuntu/kubuntu forums pretty well, so what could it be?
[17:03] <nicholas_> hello
[17:03] <tacosarecool> ok
[17:03] <tacosarecool> I am so happy with kde 4.2
[17:03] <tacosarecool> beta
[17:04] <swieta> how to updage kubuntu 7.10 to 8.10?
[17:04] <tacosarecool> Wait i'll help you
[17:04] <tacosarecool> go in synaptic
[17:04] <tacosarecool> Mark all upgrades
[17:04] <tacosarecool> try that
[17:04] <tacosarecool> Actually
[17:05] <swieta> I have apt-get and aptitude
[17:05] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[17:05] <swieta> thanks!)
[17:06] <tacosarecool> Go to System -> Administration -> Update Manager
[17:07] <swieta> I dont have update manager, i just need the url of server. Now I have only Gutsy-update servers, the stuff is very old. I'm reading upgrade instruction, thanks)
[17:09] <tacosarecool> Hooray kde 4.2 fixes the .bin problems
[17:09] <tacosarecool> I'm happy
[17:11] <tacosarecool> Lol this hd video is streeaming so well under linux
[17:12] <tacosarecool> good time to go on youtube
[17:19] <bastien> Salut à tous !
[17:20] <untiled> hi, anyone know if is possible to create a daap music library on linux?
[17:22] <DawnLight> hello. does the intrepid kopete not know about irc?
[17:23]  * dr_willis has no idea what 'daap' means..
[17:24] <koperton> we we
[17:25] <gartt> Who would have thought getting wireless working would be so hard on a user-friendly distro like Kubuntu... can't do it from source, can't do it from adept...
[17:25] <gartt> I don't understand what the problem is
[17:25] <koperton> gartt: iwconfig
[17:26] <koperton> !paste | gartt
[17:26] <Guest77899> can I see the widgets of the plasma dashboard ONLY if the dashboard is active?? and not in my desktop background
[17:26] <koperton> wireless decice ----->nice driver-------> works fine
[17:26] <koperton> wireless decice ----->bad\no driver-------> sucks
[17:27] <koperton> *device
[17:27] <gartt> koperton: iwconfig doesn't show the card ( PCI belkin F5D8013 PCMCIA wifi card), only lo and eth
[17:28] <koperton> gartt:--------->that's means -------->sucks
[17:28] <koperton> -------->that means -------->sucks
[17:28] <gartt> koperton: But it's a supposedly supported card
[17:28] <koperton> wifi card?
[17:29] <gartt> koperton: Yes
[17:29] <koperton> integrated?
[17:29] <koperton> or usb?
[17:29] <gartt> PCMCIA port
[17:29] <koperton> have you check on your bios?
[17:29] <koperton> maybe something stuff to enable pcmcia stuff
[17:29] <hallowname> anyone here on kde trunk and want to test a shiny new plasmoid?
[17:30] <koperton> *checked
[17:30] <gartt> koperton: That shouldn't be the problem, since it worked on the previously-install windows
[17:30] <gartt> So at least that isn't an issue
[17:30] <koperton> gartt: you check it
[17:31] <gartt> koperton: I have, it's a really simple/sparse bios on this laptop
[17:31] <gartt> With very few options and no mention of PCMCIA stuff
[17:31] <koperton> gartt: so what's about your lspci ?
[17:31] <gartt> koperton: That will successfully show the card
[17:31] <koperton> gartt: please use pastebin service to show me lspci
[17:32] <tacosarecool> How do I open a folder as root?
[17:32] <koperton> kdesudo konqueror
[17:32] <koperton> or kdesudo dolphin tacosarecool
[17:32] <gartt> Network controller: RaLink Unknown device 0701             Subsystem: Belkin Unknown device 811c             Memory at 20000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=64K]       Capabilities: [40] Power Management version      <-- so it sees that card
[17:33] <koperton> Belkin Unknown device 811c
[17:33] <koperton> wow unknow device
[17:33] <the_dark_warrio> I was using Ubuntu, and it recognized my wireless card without any effort. Is this the same case for Kubuntu? Using the liveCD Kubuntu hasn't recognized the card
[17:33] <gartt> koperton: it says unknown device for the ethernet card, which works perfectly, so that's not so important
[17:33] <koperton> Subsystem: Belkin Unknown device 811c
[17:34] <gartt> Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB PRO/100 VE (MOB) Ethernet Controller (rev 83)            Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Unknown device 0001    <- that's my ethernet card, and says unknown device as well, but it works perfectly
[17:35] <koperton> omg are you sure about this belkin F5D8013 PCMCIA
[17:35] <koperton> ?
[17:36] <gartt> koperton: Sure, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/help-with-wireless-adapter-606623/
[17:37] <hallowname> anyone here on kde trunk and want to test a shiny new plasmoid?
[17:37] <gartt> So ndiswrapper is said to work with that card
[17:37] <datacrusher> eae negada
[17:37] <koperton> gartt: ..so you have installed ndiswarapper
[17:37] <gartt> koperton: The issue I'm having trouble with in the ndiswrapper installation, actually
[17:37] <koperton> oh...
[17:37] <datacrusher> tenta ai
[17:37] <koperton> gartt:
[17:38] <koperton> yoiu have to install 2 packages
[17:38] <gartt> That's the hangup here- I've tried using apt-get to install it, but no luck, same with installing from source (even after isntalling kernel headers)
[17:38] <koperton> gartt: wait wait
[17:38] <koperton> !ndiswrapper
[17:38] <robophred> is there a  channel for c gcc compiler help?
[17:39] <gartt> koperton: Been there already :P
[17:39] <datacrusher> ae !
[17:41] <koperton> gartt: ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[17:41] <koperton> that's should be installed
[17:42] <koperton> if you can't download because you are without a nice connection you can download it with windows here
[17:42] <koperton> http://paste.ubuntu.com/90958/
[17:43] <gartt> koperton: I installed ndiswrapper-common, and am installing ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 now (funny, I tried installing "ndiswrapper-utils" w/o the 1.9 suffix, and it gave a strange complaint, but now it seems to be working
[17:44] <koperton> so now you can check if your ndiswrapper is correctly installed by typing on a terminal  ndiswapper
[17:44] <gartt> koperton: I hadn't gotten to this point because of that simple leaving out of "1.9", and now I should be ready to begin using ndiswrapper, which should hopefully get my card installed
[17:45] <gartt> I've just got to fetch the appropriate driver files, so thanks for the help
[17:45] <gartt> koperton: Yep, I've used it before, just not in Kubuntu, thanks
[17:45] <koperton> lol
[17:45] <koperton> ubuntu and kubuntu are the same
[17:46] <gartt> koperton: I know, but I've used Slackware before with it
[17:47] <gartt> The problem was just entering the wrong ndiswrapper-utils version, that's all. When you mentioned ndiswrapper-utils-1.9, it installed
[17:50] <koperton> gartt: :)
[17:51] <robophred> anyone here have experience with compiling for linux?  I got some odd error coming up in a c  program
[17:51] <robophred> ive done a lot of windows compiles before, but the microsoft compiler seems to be a lot more flexible than gcc
[17:59] <dr_willis> gcc is most likely being more 'strict' ;)
[18:00] <dr_willis> but I dont compile much of anything  complex then ./configure   and so forth.
[18:00] <Hydrogen> mm
[18:00] <Hydrogen> in my experience, gcc is much less strict than msvc
[18:00] <dr_willis> i imagine gcc can be set to different levels of strictness :)
[18:01] <Hydrogen> well, yes
[18:01] <Hydrogen> but it needs to be set to that level
[18:01] <Hydrogen> it doesn't happen out of the box
[18:02] <Hydrogen> but this is all academic until you show the code...
[18:02] <Hydrogen> or the error
[18:35] <tacosarecool> hello
[18:36] <tacosarecool> What graphics driver should I use
[18:36] <tacosarecool> I know ati
[18:36] <tacosarecool> But
[18:36] <tacosarecool> I wanna make sure I don't make my operating system laggy doing it
[18:36] <tacosarecool> I have a x300 card
[18:42] <tacosarecool> Anyone?
[18:44] <Salze> Since updating to 4.2 beta 1 I have the problem that krunner doesn't react to shortcuts like gg: any more. It's the same with beta 2. Any hints?
[18:47] <Ghoul> really weird on kubuntu 8.04 hardy; knetwork manager stalls at giving an ip on the wireless network and thus can't connect; (everything worked under ubuntu hargy, my wireless card is supported.. all interfaces are up from typing ifconfig..)
[18:47] <Ghoul> any ideas how to go on?
[18:49] <Ghoul> i've also tried iwconfig ath0 channel x essid xxx
[18:50] <Ghoul> specifying the name and channel even manually...
[18:50] <Ghoul> still nothing
[18:51] <Ghoul> also conwerted the key to hex and iwconfig ath0 key FEFEFEFE (where ath0 is my wireless interface and on the FEFEF is my key)
[18:54] <White_Pelican> on kubuntu intrepid ibex, using kde 4.2 beta 2, I tried to install some new splash screens from the splash screen manager. after closing the window once I installed the ones I want, they don't appear. can someone help?
[18:59] <amerigo> hello... kubuntu 8.10 on my laptop boot in text style... how can I resume GUI ... i've try to add a secondary screen but it didn't works ... now screen got some error and it is in text style ....  doing startX it won't work
[18:59] <amerigo> now i've copied xorg.conf.failsafe to xorg.conf ... because graphical mode won't start
[18:59] <amerigo> now i am in graphical mode
[18:59] <amerigo> i've a laptop with back border around
[18:59] <amerigo> but screen is little
[19:00] <White_Pelican> on kubuntu intrepid ibex, using kde 4.2 beta 2, I tried to install some new splash screens from the splash screen manager. after closing the window once I installed the ones I want, they don't appear. can someone help?
[19:03] <White_Pelican> on kubuntu intrepid ibex, using kde 4.2 beta 2, I tried to install some new splash screens from the splash screen manager. after closing the window once I installed the ones I want, they don't appear. When I go back ino system settings and try to install the same themes, theu say uninstall, as if they have already been installed. can someone help?
[19:04] <Raidenovich> nge
[19:25] <wright> Question about Rythmbox Music Player:  How do I get the songs to Extract as .mp3 format?
[19:26] <Adola> Kopete's "now listening" plugin doesn't work with AmaroK 2.  Anyone know why?
[19:27] <wright> ok im in "preferences" and it has something that says "prefered format"and it has an option for .mp3 but i cant get it to be that one...
[19:27] <Ghoul> ah well, back to ubuntu, althught kubuntu is pretties
[19:28] <Ghoul> prettier
[19:32] <Adola> Kopete's "now listening" plugin doesn't work with AmaroK 2.  Anyone know why?
[19:39] <erisch> im in a local area network, i can ping the router but neither windows pcs nor other ubuntu pcs. any ideas?
[19:43] <genii> erisch: PErhaps the router is not set as the gatewray or default router for the compute
[19:46] <etz> hi
[19:46] <jwl> too early in the day
[19:46] <erisch> genii: it is the gateway
[19:47] <genii> erisch: Have you tried to ping an exterior IP or domain on the internet?
[19:48] <Ghoul> whops wrong window close :(
[19:49] <erisch> genii: yes that works
[19:50] <genii> erisch: Do you have the broadcast IP set for the boxes? (x.x.x.255   or so)
[19:56] <erisch> genii: yeah thats fine too
[19:58] <Ghoul> ok, browsing around with on internet still.. in iwconfig it says Access Point: Not-Associated maybe that's why there's no internet
[19:59] <Ghoul> so i do sudo iwconfig ath0 ap [ap mac] but still it says 'Not-Associated'
[19:59] <Ghoul> do i have the right logic.. does this really concern the mac address of the ap?
[20:01] <tdi_k> Ghoul: did you do ifconfig ath0 up ?
[20:04] <Ghoul> tdi_k: hm i did that before; now that i did that again it managed to associate with a mac
[20:04] <Ghoul> interesting.. however still no internet
[20:05] <tdi_k> Ghoul: did you set-up an ip? or if there is a dhcp server on the network, are you running dhclient on ath0 ?
[20:06] <Ghoul> tdi_k: that is the root of the problem in knetwork manager it stalls when it comes to giving me an ip, i use the dhcp setting there
[20:07] <Ghoul> (before i had normal ubuntu hardy on the same box and it worked out of the box)
[20:08] <Ghoul> there in the gnome network manager it was also dhcp
[20:09] <tdi_k> Ghoul: The gnome nm-applet it somehow better :-(. There should be a dbus service taking care about the communication betweeen network manager and the dhcp client ... Just restart the system if you can and it should work (it does for me when I have such problems)
[20:10] <tdi_k> also you could use the gnome nm-applet in kde ...
[20:10] <Ghoul> guess so :(
[20:11] <Ghoul> ugh, so a offline instalation i guess; or i have both cds actually ubuntu and kubuntu hardy
[20:12] <Ghoul> lets put the ubuntu cd in and see what happens :)
[20:13] <kalel> !it
[20:14] <Ghoul> wow, i restarted and now i have internet
[20:14] <Ghoul> heh, ubuntu = windows?!
[20:14] <Ghoul> :)
[20:16] <tdi_k> Ghoul: it's not windows, or linux, it's just how computers work ... ;-)
[20:16] <Ghoul> tdi_k: you're right, i don't expect there to be a perfect OS
[20:29] <Ghoul> ok, more weirdness; 1st thing that i want is emacs
[20:29] <Ghoul> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d49640569
[20:34] <Mamarok> Ghoul: do you want Emacs or xemacs?
[20:34] <kalel> !it
[20:34] <Ghoul> emacs
[20:35] <Mamarok> then "sudo apt-get install emacs" should work
[20:35] <Ghoul> tried also with firefox, get the same output
[20:36] <Mamarok> Ghoul: are you sure your sources.list is complete?
[20:36] <Ghoul> how do i update that?
[20:37] <Ghoul> i'm googling :)
[20:37] <Mamarok> Ghoul: either by hand with sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:37] <Mamarok> or else with adept
[20:38] <Ghoul> Mamarok: it's not an empty file :)
[20:38] <Ghoul> lots of links in there
[20:39] <Mamarok> Ghoul: of course it's not empty, it contains the sources for the package repositories
[20:40] <kudar> my wireless speed with iwl4965 is 1398kbps... using intrepid
[20:40] <kudar> ?
[20:41] <Mamarok> Ghoul: can you pastebin your sources.list please?
[20:41] <kudar> thats like 1/10th of the speed i should have
[20:41] <Ghoul> Mamarok: ok
[20:41] <faruk_> hi
[20:41] <faruk_> where is turhish channel
[20:41] <Mamarok> !tr | faruk_
[20:42] <faruk_> thanks
[20:42] <Mamarok> :)
[20:43] <Ghoul> lol, without emacs i'm useless.. no idea how to select all the text from a file... where's kate :)
[20:43] <Ghoul> found it :D
[20:44] <Ghoul> Mamarok: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m6cd2fa08
[20:45] <Ghoul> in the meantime i see that kde has a gui packages manager Adept.. interesting
[20:46] <Ghoul> (i learn as i go.. haven't really used much linux or anything; if you people wonder why i ask so many questions of maybe triveal nature)
[20:46] <Mamarok> Ghoul: your sources.list is correct, maybe it's your connection or the nl mirror server
[20:46] <Mamarok> Ghoul: did you try to install it with Adept?
[20:46] <Ghoul> and in that Adept utility i can't see emacs either
[20:47] <Mamarok> Ghoul: that's indeed strange...
[20:47] <Ghoul> (or firefox) hmm
[20:47] <Mamarok> Ghoul: did you update your package lists before searching?
[20:48] <Ghoul> oh lol, there is this button 'fetch updates'
[20:48] <Mamarok> Ghoul: you need a local package list to search in first, so yes, updating the package list is mandatory :)
[20:49] <Ghoul> Mamarok: absolutely.. as i said i'm very new to this
[20:49] <Ghoul> now all works fine obv :)
[20:49] <Mamarok> Ghoul: in the command line, this would be "sudo apt-get update && upgrade"
[20:49] <Ghoul> Mamarok: about to ask you.. you're already answering :)
[20:50] <Mamarok> Ghoul: well, I know the questions :)
[20:50] <nuloop> hello. running kubuntu 8.10 on macbook 2.1. is there someone else here with the same setup ?
[20:51] <Ghoul> :D i'll be around annoying more with trivial questions :) maybe one day i can help where i've had some experience myself
[20:51] <Tm_T> nuloop: why asking?
[20:51] <Mamarok> Ghoul: that's the way I learned too, but also reading a lot, googling, etc
[20:52] <Ghoul> Mamarok: yes, i read the whole wifi manual and trying all suitable commands as i saw fit 1st; then came here and got a genius advice to reboot
[20:52] <nuloop> because, i've 3 issues: random X crash, spurious keycode 8 starting to appear (in loop) after resume from suspend or long uptime, and up to 100% cpu used.
[20:53] <Mamarok> Ghoul: but when I was learning, there was no kind #kubuntu channel around answering trivial questions, instead I got the "RTFM" answer :)
[20:53] <nuloop> i didn't experienced any of these issues before the 8.10 upgrade.
[20:53] <Mamarok> afk for now
[20:54] <nuloop> and it seems im the only one on this planet to have X crash in inbex with macbook ...
[20:54] <nuloop> so, all ask !
[20:54] <nuloop> s/all/i/
[20:54] <Ghoul> Mamarok: yep; i understand that, however i see nothing wrong with people spoonfeeding here and there; i'm looking or adequate people who are actively involved in the solution of a problem rather than acting as a guy of superior knowledge and responding RTFM :)
[20:56] <nuloop> on one side i've: glxgears: 89 frames in 5.0 seconds = 17.778 FPS and on the other side i've glxiinfo that gives: direct rendering: Yes
[20:56] <nuloop> so what ?
[20:57] <Tm_T> nuloop: glxgears is not an benchmark
[20:59] <nuloop> ok, but what should i try to be sure i've full dri acceleration working ?
[21:00] <nuloop> many many docs around tell us to try glxgears
[21:09] <hallowname> anyone here want to try a shiny new plasmoid? trunk only...
[21:10] <HappySmileMan> What is it?
[21:10] <hallowname> HappySmileMan: an AI bot... aritificial intelligence on ur desktop...
[21:11] <hallowname> HappySmileMan: not very intelligent yet, but it's working... which was complex enough...
[21:11] <HappySmileMan> How
[21:11] <HappySmileMan> so
[21:11] <HappySmileMan> Might try tomorrow, should be studying today though anyway
[21:11] <hallowname> HappySmileMan: AIML artificial intelligence markup language... the plasmoid itself is the interpreter...
[21:11] <hallowname> HappySmileMan: openbrain.sf.net feel free!
[21:11] <HappySmileMan> Will do
[21:12] <nuloop> trying to recompile latest xork-intel: ./configure: line 12357: syntax error near unexpected token `XINERAMA,'
[21:13] <nuloop> when doing ./autogen.sh
[21:31] <alexei> hi! Did anybody manage to run googleearth with KDE4 compositing manager?
[21:32] <beaf> hi
[21:33] <anger_> hi!
[21:33] <anger_> anyone else having problems with openoffice3 in kubuntu?
[21:34] <anger_> for me it tries to recover a file during startup and crashes
[21:34] <anger_> I can't get pass that dialog and deleting .openoffice.org/ does not help
[21:34] <anger_> it also seems that openoffice works somehow before installing openoffice.org-kde
[21:35] <anger_> so does it have a config dir somewhere else?
[21:35] <eagles0513875> anger_: try apt-get purge openoffice*
[21:35] <eagles0513875> that purges everything from your system open office wise
[21:35] <eagles0513875> if there is a particualr configuration u dont want to loose dont run that
[21:36] <anger_> ok, will test that
[21:40] <alexei> I think the shiny new KDE4 window manager does not work well with "legacy" OpenGL-apps.
[21:41] <anger_> nope, did not work
[21:42] <denis_> !de
[21:42] <denis_> hallo, ich kann amarok2 nicht installieren da ich das Paket nicht in den Quellen finden kann, obwohl ich die entsprechende hinzugefügt habe
[21:43] <anger_> it must have config file somewhere else since it always tries to fix the same file...
[21:43] <anger_> .openoffice.org2 and .openoffice.org3 are also deleted...
[21:44] <denis_> ich dacht wir sind hier im deutschen Kanal?
[21:44] <denis_> ups
[21:44] <denis_> sorry, my fault!!!
[21:44] <e-head> Any VNC users around?
[21:45] <JediatNight> e-head : yes
[21:45] <e-head> Cool. I was wondering, is it possible to resume a detached VNC session from the locally running X Server (kdm)?
[21:46] <e-head> Or, do you have to use a vnc client?
[21:46] <JediatNight> e-head: no , as far i know
[21:46] <e-head> Basically I want to detach a VNC session while at work (leave the programs running), and then attach again to it at the local console when I get home.
[21:46] <JediatNight> e-head: you must use a vnc client to connect to a vnc server
[21:46] <e-head> Sort of like RDP, if you've used Windows boxes before.
[21:47] <e-head> Alright, that's what I thought. Thanks.
[21:47] <JediatNight> e-head: I think its not possible
[21:47] <e-head> I think you're right.
[21:47] <e-head> I found a project that sort of allows something like this, but it seems to not be maintained anymore.
[21:47] <JediatNight> e-head: I'm not aware of that
[21:48] <e-head> yeah, it's called gemsvnc, but it looks abandoned.
[21:48] <JediatNight> e-head: I use tightvnc
[21:48] <JediatNight> or realvnc
[21:52] <Der_Thomas> hey, having a problem with smfbs file systems not being automaunted durring boot
[21:52] <Der_Thomas> s/automaunted/automounted
[21:53] <e-head> Hey, can anyone tell me what I need to pull in via apt to have a reasonably working development environment?
[21:53] <Der_Thomas> I can mount just fine after boot with "mount -a -t smbfs"
[21:53] <Der_Thomas> e-head, not quite sure what you are asking for, but do you have gc installed?
[21:54] <Der_Thomas> gcc that is
[21:54] <e-head> Yeah. I have that.
[21:54] <e-head> The makefile couldn't find makedepend.
[21:55] <e-head> I just set this machine up with the default install.  I figure a lot of development tools were left off.
[21:56] <e-head> I was just wondering if there was an "apt-get" line I run over ssh to pull the "traditional" linux development tools down.
[21:56] <e-head> Maybe most of them are.  ;)
[21:56] <e-head> I just didn't want to get stuck in an endless chase for devel tools and header files.
[21:56] <HappySmileMan> Well apt-get install build-essential
[21:57] <Der_Thomas> well if you ssh -X into your box you can use synaptic and just install things from the development catagory
[21:57] <HappySmileMan> That will install the core development stuff, like compilers, autotools etc.
[21:57] <e-head> yeah, that's exactly the kind of stuff I need.  ;)
[21:57] <Der_Thomas> yeah that is prob the best way to go
[21:57] <e-head> Is it installed by default you think?
[21:57] <HappySmileMan> No not by default
[21:58] <e-head> ok, thanks.  That's probably faster than trying to chase them all down with apt-get.
[22:02] <mrksbrd> has anyone sucessfully applied a "dock" to the desktop like aple has?
[22:08] <ampli> hello, how can i get ntfs support in ubuntu?
[22:10] <roberto> help
[22:10] <roberto> hi
[22:10] <roberto> !list
[22:13] <siegie> hi, my kubuntu intrepid installation doesn't show a dialog when i insert a dvd.
[22:13] <siegie> I have to manaly mount a data dvd/cd
[22:27] <siegie_> Is it just a feature missing in kubuntu, that it can't mount dvd's automatic
[22:28] <yotux> need help getting usb headset to work
[22:30] <olivier> !fr
[22:30] <Copelia> !fr
[22:30] <Copelia> !de
[22:30] <Copelia> !fr
[22:30] <Copelia> hello
[22:30] <Copelia> !fr
[22:35] <bazhang> #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr
[23:05] <Dazedit> Just in case, does anyone know why firefox 3 is crashing randomly in kubuntu 8.10?
[23:26] <uga> anybody knows what's going on with the openoffice 3.x pacakges for intrepid? the launchpad packages are broken for me, and aren't receiving any updates
[23:26] <uga> (crashes when starting)
[23:27] <uga> and I need version 3 for work reasons (people begin using the new MS office versions these days)
[23:27] <inanimate> Where are the entries for the Plasma widget adder stored?
[23:27] <uga> inanimate: they're plugins. I don't think there's entries for them
[23:27] <uga> they are only libraries iirc
[23:27] <uga> ie, no desktop files or anything
[23:27] <inanimate> Oh...
[23:28] <inanimate> Where does it get the metainformation then?
[23:28] <uga> a sec. verifying
[23:29] <uga> inanimate: ok, I was wrong
[23:29] <tomo__> can someone help me
[23:29] <inanimate> Yeah, they must have desktop files somewhere?
[23:29] <uga> inanimate: $KDEDIR/share/kde4/services/
[23:29] <uga> inanimate: in theory they don't need them. the plugin could provide the metainfo, but in this case,there's desktop files, yes
[23:29] <uga> check that directory
[23:30] <inanimate> OK, I'm looking.
[23:30] <uga> notice that in kde 4.1 plasma doesn't reload the list until plasma is reloaded
[23:30] <uga> in 4.2 there was a fix for that
[23:30] <inanimate> Good point.
[23:31] <woo> I NEED HELP SOOtomo__LP SOMEONE PLEASE HE
[23:31] <inanimate> So maybe a better question would be: What would be the best way to remove one of these?
[23:31] <woo> I NEED HELP SO PLEASE HELP ME
[23:31] <uga> nobody here got a decent url for OOo 3 packages?
[23:31] <hyper_ch> !shout | woo
[23:31] <uga> (other than the broken ppa launchpad packs)
[23:31] <woo> WELL I DONT CARE
[23:31] <woo> HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
[23:32]  * uga is amused knowing where woo will end up =)
[23:32] <hyper_ch> and ignorde
[23:32] <uga> hyper_ch: kickbans are more fun
[23:32] <woo> what
[23:32] <hyper_ch> uga: don't have power to do that
[23:32] <woo> uga      what u on about
[23:32] <uga> hyper_ch: there's many people here =)
[23:32] <inanimate> woo: Not sure what you're doing, but if you're looking for OOo 3, install from source.
[23:33] <uga> inanimate: I think that was targetted at me
[23:33] <hyper_ch> uga: :)
[23:33] <inanimate> Oh well...
[23:33] <uga>  woo: it's the way irc works. you either behave, or you get kicked. But best of all, the good thing is the choice is yours
[23:33] <woo> omg
[23:33] <hyper_ch> uga: nicely put
[23:34] <woo> i just need help but no one will help me
[23:34] <uga> inanimate: how many times have you built ooo from source? =)
[23:34] <uga> last time it took me ages and I had to apply at least 100 fixes
[23:34] <inanimate> uga: None, I'll admit. But is it really that gruesome of an experience?
[23:34] <uga> inanimate: real bad experience last time for me
[23:34] <inanimate> (I have a feeling the answer is yes.)
[23:35] <uga> long to build, and too many fixes for making it build
[23:35] <uga> and not very pleasing build methods
[23:35] <woo> SEE WHAT  I MEAN
[23:35] <woo> god sake
[23:35]  * uga calls the admins
[23:35] <uga> !admins
[23:35] <uga> !admin
[23:35] <uga> ugh
[23:35] <inanimate> Heh...
[23:35] <uga> !syadmin
[23:35] <uga> !sysadmin
[23:35] <uga> !sysadmins
[23:36] <uga> dang
[23:36] <hyper_ch> PriceChild: online?
[23:36] <woo> OMG
[23:36] <inanimate> Apparently ubottu doesn't know much...
[23:36] <hyper_ch> !inanimate
[23:36] <RobertLaptop> !root
[23:36] <woo> HELP ME
[23:36] <woo> U hyper_chHOE
[23:36] <woo> U HOE
[23:36] <woo> CUNT
[23:36] <woo> WANKER
[23:37] <bazhang> woo, stop
[23:37] <woo> NO
[23:37] <bazhang> !ops | woo
[23:37] <tomo__> HAHAHAHA
[23:38] <inanimate> Well, that was exciting...
[23:38] <hyper_ch> good night
[23:38]  * cuznt smells the leather from a b00t
[23:39] <cuznt> waves good bye to the bad chatter
[23:39] <PriceChild> hyper_ch: am now sorry 8-)
[23:40] <szrhawaii> is there a way to speed up the logging out time
[23:41] <szrhawaii> it takes for ever to exit out of things and i notcied that sometimes my comp starts running slow through window exchanges
[23:41] <szrhawaii> is there something i can configure to make this system run faster
[23:41] <szrhawaii> on kde 8.10 intrepid
[23:42] <uga> may it be that it's trying to close an app that does not respond?
[23:42] <xethx> Could someone please tell me how I can get this
[23:42] <xethx> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[23:42] <xethx> I looked in adept but there is nothing under Qt
[23:42] <Riddell> xethx: install libqt3-mt-dev
[23:43] <szrhawaii> it might just be that but on kde 3.5 it never had those problems
[23:43] <szrhawaii> if i shut it it would shut wy does this sytem take so long to shut stuff down
[23:44] <szrhawaii> even downloading things take longer in this system too
[23:44] <Ghoul> i don't understand, my repositories are fine, in sourcest.list i have the universe sources uncommented, still apt-get install wxpython can't find the right package
[23:44] <xethx> Riddell: Thanks
[23:44] <Ghoul> a program needs wxpython installed :/
[23:45] <xethx> Ghoul: Try using adept instead of going through console
[23:45] <xethx> For some people including myself some stuff doesnt appear in apt-get
[23:45] <Ghoul> xethx: k, i'll give it a try :)
[23:45] <szrhawaii> yep sometimes you have to cause konsole doesnt recognize some packages
[23:46] <szrhawaii> anyone know what i can do to make this os not so damn slow
[23:46] <xethx> Wow I feel good about myself, instead of asking for help I helped someone for once.
[23:46] <Ghoul> console seems more simple :) oh wow adept found it
[23:46] <stdin> wxpython is not a package, try python-wxgtk2.6 or python-wxgtk2.8
[23:46] <Ghoul> .. or that's a bit different
[23:46] <Ghoul> thanks stdin
[23:47] <xethx> szrhawaii: Ram/Processor
[23:47] <szrhawaii> yeah so that took ten years to download
[23:47] <szrhawaii> you want to know what im running
[23:47] <xethx> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[23:47] <xethx> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[23:47] <xethx> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[23:47] <xethx> Another problem while attempting to compile
[23:48] <szrhawaii> i got a 2gb intel duo processor
[23:48] <stdin> xethx: install kdelibs4-dev
[23:48] <xethx> Im running an AMD athlon 64x2 and im still slow
[23:48] <szrhawaii> should run good but doesnt
[23:48] <szrhawaii> yeah even vista runs fast on my comp in my virtual machine and it has less memory
[23:49] <szrhawaii> whats up with that
[23:49] <xethx> wow lol
[23:49] <inanimate> uga: If you install a Dashboard widget from the installer, do you know if it makes a desktop file?
[23:49] <inanimate> (I don't see one in services.)
[23:49] <uga> inanimate: which one?
[23:49] <uga> I use svn trunk, so I can check the sources
[23:50] <inanimate> Add Widget > Install New > From File > Dashboard
[23:50] <szrhawaii> anyone got ideas on why it the apps just stall for awhile
[23:50] <uga> inanimate: is that the "show dashboard" widget?
[23:50] <szrhawaii> sometimes it runs great sometimes it doesnt whats up with that
[23:51] <inanimate> uga: The actual widget I installed is a 3rd party weather widget.
[23:51] <uga> inanimate: my version (svn trunk, 4.2) doesn't have that from file option. It must be a kubuntu patch?
[23:51] <szrhawaii> the updates are sudo apt-get update right
[23:51] <inanimate> uga: Interesting. I read a blog entry about it.
[23:52] <inanimate> (From Aaron.)
[23:52] <uga> oh, there it is, sorry
[23:52] <inanimate> http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/03/plasma-packages.html
[23:52] <uga> never saw it, on bottom =)
[23:52] <uga> inanimate: in theory, it should
[23:52] <uga> all widgets here seem to provide one such desktop file
[23:52] <inanimate> Maybe a better question would be, how do you remove installed widgets?
[23:52] <uga> but I install from source
[23:53] <uga> inanimate: I do make uninstall ;))
[23:53] <inanimate> I suppose if you install from source, you can make uninstall.
[23:53] <inanimate> Yeah.
[23:53] <szrhawaii> ok running a little better now
[23:53] <stdin> !paste > xethx
[23:53] <uga> inanimate: if you know the name of the plugin, you just need to remove the .so file from the plugin folder
[23:53] <JediatNight> Hi all
[23:53] <uga> and the desktop file
[23:54] <inanimate> uga: That's the thing... I can't find it anywhere.
[23:54] <Irena_InGym> Help!!! I can't find apropriate cirillic encording. UTF-8 doesn't work:(
[23:54] <inanimate> uga: Where are the plugins again?
[23:54] <inanimate> (The actual .so files.)
[23:55] <JediatNight> My computer hangs all of a sudden. It occurs randomly and my capslock led blinks when it happens. It could be due to a interrupt conflict and i'm unable to figure out the problem. Can anyone help? I have a HP core2duo 5550 , 2gb ram , Nvdiai 8400 gs 512 Mb card
[23:55] <uga> inanimate: $KDEDIR/lib/kde4
[23:55] <uga> inanimate: and the widget lib is possibly called plasma*
[23:56] <inanimate> Yeah, it's not in there... That is so weird.
[23:56] <r2b2> @JediatNight : might me kernel panic
[23:56] <r2b2> or HDD error
[23:56] <inanimate> Let's see what happens if I restart plasma. Maybe it will disappear.
[23:56] <JediatNight> it started after I installed the Video card driver
[23:56] <uga> inanimate: killall -9 plasma; plasma &
[23:56] <uga> and you're done
[23:57] <r2b2> can you login to the console?
[23:57] <uga> inanimate: btw, iirc plugins can also be installed in your home dir
[23:57] <uga> under .kde
[23:57] <inanimate> Oh, good point.
[23:57] <inanimate> In fact, I bet you that's where it is.
[23:57] <inanimate> Because I didn't do it with sudo privileges.
[23:57] <uga> inanimate: try find /home/inanimate/.kde/ -iname 'plasma*'
[23:57] <inanimate> Wow, Plasma sure didn't restart gracefully.
[23:58] <uga> oups
[23:58] <inanimate> Heh...