| emgent` | SteveA: ping | 00:25 |
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| wgrant | emgent`: given that you don't seem to be having much luck, maybe email him? | 00:36 |
| wgrant | Or find a more appropriate person. | 00:37 |
| emgent` | wgrant: i mailed kiko too, but i think that i should be wait tomorrow | 00:37 |
| emgent` | i have little urgence to activate nubuntu in launchpad for start the tracker and the other stuff | 00:38 |
| wgrant | emgent`: May I ask why you are creating a derivative? | 00:40 |
| wgrant | As an Ubuntu developer, I would think you would know that that's not the best way to go about things. | 00:40 |
| emgent` | wgrant: nubuntu exist since 6.X | 00:41 |
| emgent` | and it`s a really specific project | 00:42 |
| emgent` | anyway i will commit all packages in ubuntu repo dont worry :) | 00:42 |
| wgrant | Good, good. | 00:42 |
| ausimage | Can someone help figure out how to add another administrator to a team I own? | 01:58 |
| wgrant | ausimage: You click on the edit link next to them on +members. | 01:58 |
| ausimage | the pencil? | 01:59 |
| wgrant | Yes. | 01:59 |
| ausimage | there! it was hiding from me :/ | 01:59 |
| ausimage | thanks | 01:59 |
| fta | https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds/lansones | 02:15 |
| mdeslaur | Where do I report launchpad abuse to get an account disabled? | 03:43 |
| wgrant | mdeslaur: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion, given that the usual AsiaPac LOSA is on leave. | 03:45 |
| wgrant | Which user is it? They've had a few usuals lately... | 03:45 |
| mdeslaur | hi wgrant. It would be this guy: https://launchpad.net/~maurizio-live | 03:46 |
| wgrant | Ah. | 03:47 |
| wgrant | Him again. | 03:47 |
| wgrant | spm loves him. | 03:47 |
| mdeslaur | hehe | 03:47 |
| wgrant | But what the frick is he doing reenabled. | 03:47 |
| wgrant | Maybe he hasn't been disabled since they fixed that bug. | 03:47 |
| mdeslaur | what bug? | 03:47 |
| wgrant | Oh. | 03:47 |
| wgrant | he's back at it. | 03:48 |
| wgrant | Bastard. | 03:48 |
| wgrant | The bug where a deactivated user could reactivate their account. | 03:48 |
| mdeslaur | ouch | 03:48 |
| mdeslaur | that's a bad bug :) | 03:48 |
| * wgrant hopes there is a LOSA around soonish. | 03:48 | |
| wgrant | But of course everybody is on leave, so it probably won't get fixed for two weeks like bugmail. | 03:48 |
| wgrant | I guess we might have herb in 12 hours. | 03:50 |
| mdeslaur | ok, I'll ask herb tomorrow | 03:51 |
| mdeslaur | thanks wgrant | 03:51 |
| * wgrant forgets who the other LOSA is. | 03:51 | |
| wgrant | Ah. | 03:51 |
| wgrant | Nobody. | 03:51 |
| wgrant | That would explain it. | 03:51 |
| mwhudson | mthaddon is the other losa | 03:51 |
| wgrant | Right, but he's not here. | 03:52 |
| mwhudson | indeed | 03:52 |
| wgrant | I wonder if somebody forgot to really kill maurizio-live after the rollout, or if there is YALPB that we have to work out ourselves. | 03:52 |
| sgorf | I've just renamed my short name and my PPA url for sources.list now 404s. Have I broken it or will it rebuild itself in time? | 04:17 |
| nhandler | sgorf: If you changed your name on LP, your PPA url will also change | 04:19 |
| sgorf | nhandler: Yes it has, but the URL itself 404s | 04:19 |
| sgorf | The new URL that is | 04:19 |
| nhandler | The new url? | 04:19 |
| nhandler | Are you using the URL listed on your ppa page? | 04:19 |
| sgorf | Yes - that 404s. I've just tried and the old URL still works. These URLs are http://ppa.launchpad.net/... | 04:20 |
| wgrant | sgorf: You'll have to convince Launchpad to republish your PPA - just uploading a package or copying an existing one to another distribution series will do it. | 04:20 |
| wgrant | (if you do it now, it'll be fixed in 20 minutes) | 04:20 |
| sgorf | wgrant: Thanks. I've made a copy to another series. I guess I'll just wait for the new URL to start working and then delete it again? | 04:22 |
| wgrant | You can probably actually delete it now, but I'd not risk it. | 04:23 |
| wgrant | So yes, do as you say. | 04:23 |
| sgorf | Great - thanks very much | 04:23 |
| wgrant | np | 04:24 |
| wgrant | stub: Thanks! | 04:34 |
| wgrant | stub: Can you tell if it was already disabled post-rollout? | 04:35 |
| stub | Not now... | 04:35 |
| wgrant | I thought there might have been a log somewhere. | 04:35 |
| wgrant | Because I would have thought a LOSA would have done that... | 04:36 |
| stub | There might be - I'm not normally doing this sort of thing ;) | 04:36 |
| wgrant | I pondered pinging you when I saw you were around while it was being discussed, but presumed you wouldn't do anything of the sort. I am glad I was wrong! | 04:38 |
| wgrant | Maybe he will stay dead for more than a day this time. | 04:38 |
| wgrant | FUCKER | 04:38 |
| wgrant | He's using his other account. | 04:39 |
| wgrant | ~rutadeevacuacion | 04:39 |
| wgrant | That *was* dead. | 04:39 |
| wgrant | I'm sure of it. | 04:39 |
| wgrant | stub: Can you kill that too, please? | 04:40 |
| stub | Ok. | 04:40 |
| wgrant | He noticed quickly this time :( | 04:41 |
| sgorf | wgrant: It created http://ppa.launchpad.net/.../ubuntu/dists/jaunty/ (I copied from intrepid to jaunty) but not http://ppa.launchpad.net/.../ubuntu/dists/intrepid/ - and then an upload of a new package to intrepid failed during the chroot step as dists/intrepid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404'd | 05:17 |
| wgrant | sgorf: Blah, I guess it only publishes dirty pockets. Copy something into each series you want published, and I'll see if there's a bug about this. | 05:22 |
| wgrant | Bug #87326 is probably this. | 05:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 87326 in soyuz "Support PPA Renaming and Reassignment" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87326 | 05:24 |
| sgorf | Thanks. I think I've stuffed it more now. I can't seem to copy Hardy -> Gutsy as "same version has unpublished binaries in the destination archive for Hardy, please wait for them to be published before copying" - but it says that the hardy version is published | 05:26 |
| wgrant | sgorf: You recently uploaded the hardy one? | 05:26 |
| sgorf | I copied the hardy one from the broken intrepid one. The hardy one built ok | 05:27 |
| wgrant | Ah. | 05:27 |
| wgrant | Bug #283960 | 05:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 283960 in soyuz "PPA page should re-assure the user that their binary packages are being published" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/283960 | 05:27 |
| sgorf | So then I deleted the intrepid one with the intention of then copying hardy back to intrepid | 05:27 |
| wgrant | Binaries are published separate from sources. | 05:27 |
| wgrant | Wait 13 minutes, try again. | 05:27 |
| wgrant | Then the binaries will be published. | 05:27 |
| sgorf | lol ok ;) | 05:27 |
| wgrant | The 'Published' field on +archive just refers to the source. | 05:28 |
| sgorf | Right. I think I understand the state now, thanks. | 05:29 |
| wgrant | Launchpad. You have seriously failed. | 06:22 |
| wgrant | Again. | 06:22 |
| wgrant | That is just stupid. | 06:22 |
| wgrant | Really, really stupid. | 06:22 |
| wgrant | On multiple levels. | 06:22 |
| wgrant | It was an awful lot easier than I suspected, too. | 06:22 |
| wgrant | Can you just turn of P3As until somebody actually reviews their implementation, please? | 06:24 |
| * wgrant headdesks repeatedly. | 06:26 | |
| wgrant | Yes, I know I should be positive, but this is ridiculous. | 06:26 |
| jamesh | we're using private ppas though | 06:27 |
| wgrant | You're fucked then, sorry. | 06:27 |
| wgrant | This is ridiculous. | 06:27 |
| wgrant | I tried to attack through one avenue, and found an even easier avenue half-way through. Again. | 06:28 |
| wgrant | That's two in a week. | 06:28 |
| wgrant | Ah, I think I might see what's going on here. | 06:34 |
| wgrant | So it's not entirely broken by design. | 06:34 |
| Hobbsee | wgrant: no, they didn't kill him after the rollout. i asked one LOSA to, but he didn't end up doing it | 06:59 |
| Hobbsee | although might have done so after lunch, when i hadn't checked again | 07:00 |
| wgrant | Hobbsee: Ah, damn. | 07:02 |
| wgrant | Maybe they'll stay dead now. | 07:02 |
| Hobbsee | wgrant: well, i got my second account killed, and still haven't managed to be able to reactivate it again, so i am confident that they have actually fixed it correctly | 07:03 |
| Hobbsee | or, that if they haven't, that it's going to take a while to figure out what the next way is to get in | 07:03 |
| * Hobbsee tried all the obvious options, but no dice. | 07:03 | |
| wgrant | OK, I take back my not entirely broken statement. | 07:13 |
| Hobbsee | it's just mostly broken? | 07:14 |
| wgrant | No, it's entirely broken. | 07:15 |
| Hobbsee | make up your mind ;) | 07:15 |
| wgrant | More broken than I'd imagined. | 07:15 |
| Hobbsee | so how's it broken, and what are the implications? | 07:15 |
| wgrant | That's for the private bug to know. | 07:15 |
| Hobbsee | awww | 07:15 |
| Hobbsee | can i get subscribed to it? :P | 07:16 |
| wgrant | Oh good. | 07:18 |
| wgrant | Bad evening, al-maisan. | 07:18 |
| Hobbsee | wgrant: i'm starting they need to have something between production and edge, where you can just go in and point out all the holes, before this stuff gets released. | 07:23 |
| Hobbsee | it would probably be the quickest way of finding them | 07:23 |
| Hobbsee | and finding all the problems, before they became bigger problems. | 07:23 |
| wgrant | I really fear the freeing now. | 07:36 |
| wgrant | Even just the availability of design docs is going to make this stuff easier to find. I guess non-malicious people are just going to have to find them first. | 07:36 |
| * Hobbsee wonders if any other projects do offer private repositories, and other private stuff, centralise | 07:39 | |
| Hobbsee | d | 07:39 |
| sgorf | Does the "deleted" status ever go away? | 07:47 |
| wgrant | sgorf: In a PPA? | 07:47 |
| sgorf | Yeah | 07:47 |
| wgrant | No, those packages will show up forever. | 07:48 |
| al-maisan | hello wgrant | 07:48 |
| sgorf | My PPA now works as it should, but it says "build failed" against intrepid, possibly because I copied it over a previous deleted version | 07:48 |
| al-maisan | how are things? | 07:48 |
| wgrant | al-maisan: Hello... | 07:48 |
| wgrant | al-maisan: Not optimal, if you check your bugmail. | 07:48 |
| al-maisan | hmm.. | 07:48 |
| sgorf | What I don't really get is that how can you rebuild a package if it already exists in another series? Surely both builds end up in the same place in the pool? | 07:49 |
| wgrant | sgorf: They do. | 07:49 |
| wgrant | You can't copy it without binaries within the same PPAa. | 07:49 |
| wgrant | It will tell you you are wrong. | 07:49 |
| al-maisan | wgrant: please point me to the bug you have in mind. | 07:49 |
| wgrant | al-maisan: Bug #310507, bug #310503 | 07:49 |
| ubottu | Bug 310507 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/310507 is private | 07:49 |
| ubottu | Bug 310503 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/310503 is private | 07:50 |
| sgorf | wgrant: OK I get that...but then how can I have build failed in one series but build succeeded in another - both in the same ppa? | 07:50 |
| * al-maisan takes a look | 07:50 | |
| wgrant | sgorf: Hm, where's this? | 07:50 |
| sgorf | https://launchpad.net/~racb/+archive?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=any | 07:50 |
| sgorf | I've made a right mess of it if deleted packages are going to hang around forever :-/ | 07:51 |
| wgrant | That's an interesting case. | 07:51 |
| wgrant | Why? | 07:51 |
| wgrant | Deleted packages don't affect much. | 07:51 |
| sgorf | Yeah but it's ugly! | 07:51 |
| wgrant | Other than stopping you from uploading the same version again. | 07:51 |
| wgrant | Oh. | 07:51 |
| wgrant | You mean like that, I see. | 07:51 |
| wgrant | No, those won't be there forever. | 07:52 |
| wgrant | The aren't displayed by default, normally. | 07:52 |
| wgrant | But these are because they were copied into and are still published in another series. | 07:52 |
| wgrant | That's probably a bug. | 07:52 |
| sgorf | I see | 07:52 |
| sgorf | I have to say I'm very impressed by ppas and launchpad generally | 07:53 |
| wgrant | Once they're gone from that other series, they should both vanish from the page. | 07:53 |
| sgorf | I used to maintain all my own repositories by hand (for company internal stuff) | 07:53 |
| wgrant | That's painful. | 07:54 |
| wgrant | LP certainly makes things much easier. | 07:54 |
| sgorf | Painful yeah - I built all packages by hand and copied the binaries around to get them to the repository and a script to update the Packages files. No pool - separate directories for each stream. And no removal of old packages either | 07:55 |
| wgrant | Ah, fun. | 07:55 |
| sgorf | One other ugliness - Jaunty is listed in the sources.list filter thing even though I don't have any packages for jaunty any more. I guess that's because a Release or Packages file exists for it | 07:58 |
| wgrant | Right, that sounds like another bug, and I think that one might already be filed. | 07:58 |
| sgorf | Quite a lot of bugs exposed for one night's work then :-) | 07:59 |
| sgorf | Are there any bugs you think I should file? | 08:00 |
| wgrant | sgorf: You could file the one about the deleted packages still showing up. | 08:01 |
| wgrant | If it is already filed, and I don't think it is, somebody who knows will fix it up, I'm sure. | 08:01 |
| sgorf | So the deleted package should have disappeared, but hasn't, right? | 08:02 |
| wgrant | Correct. | 08:02 |
| sgorf | wgrant: Bug #231364 suggests that I might have to wait 24 hours - or do you think that doesn't apply here? | 08:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 231364 in soyuz "PPA still shows packages even though they are not available to be deleted (cannot clean up my PPA)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/231364 | 08:15 |
| wgrant | sgorf: I don't think that's relevant here - that's for the packages in the pool. | 08:16 |
| sgorf | OK thanks. I'll file a bug | 08:17 |
| sgorf | OK filed bug #310517, thanks very much for the help wgrant | 08:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 310517 in soyuz "PPA package not cleared out after delete" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/310517 | 08:28 |
| wgrant | sgorf: np | 08:28 |
| === kiko is now known as kiko-afk | ||
| emgent | kiko-afk: ping about question 54892 | 13:14 |
| kiko-afk | yeah yeah | 13:16 |
| * Hobbsee wonders if questions get dumped to the bottom of kiko's queue if they get asked about too much | 13:17 | |
| kiko-afk | sometimes! | 13:19 |
| kiko-afk | wgrant, ping? | 13:20 |
| Hobbsee | kiko-afk: he'll be asleep by now | 13:21 |
| emgent | kiko-afk: lol, you dont understand me :) | 13:21 |
| kiko-afk | emgent, sometimes. sometimes. :) | 13:22 |
| === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde | ||
| wgrant | kiko-afk: Hi... | 13:23 |
| emgent | kiko-afk: when you have time take a look on my reply. | 13:25 |
| Hobbsee | or not | 13:25 |
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| === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn | ||
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| hexmode | are the 64bit ppa builds down? | 16:40 |
| cprov | hexmode: let me check | 16:40 |
| cprov | hexmode: no, nothing indicates that, americium is building. | 16:41 |
| hexmode | k, just wondering because apt-get update is giving me nothing on some ppas... | 16:42 |
| hexmode | will look a bit closer myself | 16:42 |
| pmarti | any kind soul to review the .pot of the wader project? thanks :) | 16:55 |
| === kiko is now known as kiko-afk | ||
| MagicFab | hate to ask this, but is there any way to remove someone from the "recently applied" / "deactivated" members list of a team ? | 17:42 |
| beuno | MagicFab, not really, no :( | 17:42 |
| MagicFab | beuno, not even by removing the account completely ? | 17:44 |
| beuno | MagicFab, maybe if it is deactivated, yes | 17:44 |
| beuno | sinzui, ^ | 17:44 |
| MagicFab | in fact I thjink this user just deactived their account | 17:45 |
| MagicFab | https://edge.launchpad.net/~sebastiancobaleda | 17:45 |
| sinzui | MagicFab: No-one can remove an account | 17:45 |
| MagicFab | interesting, as I still have his account info in another browser. But opening a new window gives me an error | 17:46 |
| sinzui | MagicFab: But I see I misunderstood. Congratulation, you have discovered a bug | 17:46 |
| sinzui | MagicFab: I think the user is now gone. Is he still in your list? | 17:47 |
| MagicFab | sinzui, how could he remove himself ? I was going to ask the bug squad how he made it into that team as he was "fix released"ing bugs and causing damage in every place he participated! | 17:48 |
| MagicFab | sinzui, he had accumulated a karma of 5343 - ~3000 more than yesterday | 17:51 |
| sinzui | MagicFab: I think the user is deactivated or suspended. No active users have that id, nor do I see sebastian cobaleda when I search. The user could have changed his name or displayname...but that wouls also show up in your list of "recently applied" | 17:51 |
| sinzui | MagicFab: which team are you seeing this user in? | 17:54 |
| MagicFab | ok got it -> https://edge.launchpad.net/~jscc88-deactivatedaccount | 17:54 |
| sinzui | I see | 17:55 |
| MagicFab | sinzui, he most probably accumulated a lot of karma by opening dummy accounts and sending answers back and forth. | 17:57 |
| sinzui | ?? | 17:57 |
| sinzui | Why? Blueprints are the way to get karma for doing nothing? | 17:57 |
| sinzui | MagicFab: Is this user stuck in a recently applied list? For which project? Deactivated users should not appear in a list to join a team | 18:01 |
| === al-maisan is now known as al-maisan-out | ||
| MagicFab | sinzui, as I asked here he apparently zapped himself from everywhere | 18:11 |
| sinzui | MagicFab: I don't think that is the whole story. A lot of questions are unsolved. I don't see any spam in his remarks. Though I don't think his advise was often helpful | 18:16 |
| MagicFab | I see a lot of cut & paste comments, and he may just have preferred to storm out. | 18:17 |
| sgorf | In bugs.../.../+bug/.../+choose-affected-product, how do I select an Ubuntu package? I can see other bugs listed as "bluez (Ubuntu)", but entering "ubuntu", "bluez", "ubuntu bluez", "ubuntu/bluez" all fail to find it | 18:29 |
| beuno | sgorf, full URL? | 18:30 |
| sgorf | to the project? | 18:30 |
| beuno | sure, why not | 18:30 |
| sgorf | I tried https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez and that failed also | 18:30 |
| beuno | sgorf, where are you trying to link it? | 18:32 |
| sgorf | https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bug/285412 | 18:32 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 285412 in alsa-lib "ALSA lib pcm_bluetooth.c:1619:(bluetooth_init) BT_GETCAPABILITIES failed : Input/output error(5)" [Undecided,New] | 18:32 |
| sgorf | I've found that that bug is actually a general Ubuntu bug, in I think bluez | 18:32 |
| sgorf | As it affects non-alsa stuff for me in Intrepid | 18:32 |
| sgorf | So I am trying to add "bluez (Ubuntu)" as an "also affects project", then enter a comment to explain | 18:33 |
| beuno | sgorf, if you want to link to a package | 18:33 |
| nhandler | sgorf: Use also affects distribution | 18:33 |
| beuno | you'll need to use "Also affects distribution..." | 18:33 |
| beuno | (I know, not intuitive, we're fixing it) | 18:33 |
| sgorf | OK, it seems obvious now - and it worked - thanks! | 18:34 |
| nhandler | :) | 18:34 |
| CarlFK | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?advanced=1 | 19:06 |
| CarlFK | the tag list is too long | 19:06 |
| CarlFK | and I have no idea how to search for "usb" in jaunty | 19:07 |
| lamalexmas | anyone know the status of the launchpad + PQM integration? | 19:09 |
| lamalexmas | is that something we can be looking forward to in Q1 2009? | 19:09 |
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| === glade88_ is now known as glade88 | ||
| CarlFK | how do I check out trunk from a project? it would be nice to have something I can cut/paste into a shell on https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mdipierro/web2conf/devel | 21:08 |
| beuno | CarlFK, if the project has set a branch as their development focus, it's just a simple: bzr branch lp:projectname | 21:10 |
| beuno | CarlFK, which that project hasn't | 21:11 |
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| === fta_ is now known as fta | ||
| === glade88 is now known as glade88|ZzZ | ||
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