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dilomothorwil: good morning09:32
thorwilgood morning dilomo09:32
dilomothorwil: Can I ask you one technical question?09:33
thorwildilomo: you can always ask, the answer is another matter ;)09:33
dilomothorwil: :) How can I anti-alaise the edge on the image:09:34
dilomohttp://www.piccdrop.com/images/1229938468.png09:34
dilomoI cutted it from metacity's theme and I'm making an emerald one09:35
thorwildilomo: rebuilding that in inkscape might be faster than doing it manually09:35
dilomoI did it but it does not match very well09:36
thorwildilomo: if you want to do it manually, you should open 2 views, one in 1:1, the other zoomed in to work on09:36
dilomohow could I do that?09:37
thorwildilomo: then use the pencil with reduced alpha. hold Ctrl to use the color picker09:37
thorwildilomo: i think that's in the View menu09:37
alex_21Does anyone know where I can find pictures of the textures of fruits? Like a Kiwi textured picture? It is for a Ubuntu Application I am writting09:38
alex_21Writing, sorry09:38
dilomothorwil: I got the method09:39
thorwilalex_21: i use google image search for my reference needs. usually satisfying09:39
dilomothorwil: how much it should blend away? Are two steps ok at 60 and 40%?09:40
thorwilalex_21: doesn't look like a bad start: http://images.google.de/images?q=kiwi+texture&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi&gbv=1&ei=M2BPScGYI4rQ0AX667CEBA09:40
alex_21Yeah, but they aren't labeled nicely09:40
alex_21And being blind, I require niely labeled pictures09:40
alex_21Nicely, sorry09:40
thorwilalex_21: oh, ok. i guess there's no way around the fact that you need assistance, then09:41
thorwildilomo: perhaps start with 5009:42
thorwildilomo: or use a low value like 20 or 10 and click several times in a place as needed09:43
alex_21Never mind. I am reconcidering my comments about Google image search. It is much better than I remember09:43
alex_21And since I have a very, very little bit of sight, I can zoom in quite big09:44
dilomothorwil: thanks for the tip09:44
thorwilnp09:44
alex_21And see a little bit of it09:44
alex_21Thanks a lot09:44
alex_21That is briliant09:44
alex_21And what is the lisence on these iages? Or the rules for including them in Applications09:45
alex_21?09:45
alex_21Images, sorry09:45
thorwilalex_21: image search doesn't care about license. you must assume that they are not free to use, that you rae not allowed to distribute them09:46
alex_21Ok, so what was the point of telling me to look there then, apart from me finding a cool search, smiley09:48
alex_21Lol, where can I get some I can use09:48
alex_21Download and use just like that09:49
thorwilalex_21: it could have been the case that you need pictures not for direct use, but as reference ...09:49
alex_21I think this is what I neded: http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/3008094/2/istockphoto_3008094_kiwi_fruit_skin_texture.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup/food/fruits/kiwi_fruit/3008094_kiwi_fruit_skin_texture.php%3Fid%3D3008094&usg=__Z9X-_IRoNf3zQY1YEoRBRXqqKVk=&h=380&w=380&sz=142&hl=de&start=5&um=1&tbnid=9bW7AIj6ecm-lM:&tbnh=123&tbnw=123&prev=/images%3Fq%3D09:49
alex_21kiwi%2Btexture%26gbv%3D2%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dde%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial%26sa%3DN09:49
thorwilalex_21: finding images with free licenses is much harder09:49
alex_21Needed, sorry09:49
dilomothorwil: man I can't do it. The sole problem is in the hard-edged black pixels.09:50
alex_21thorwil: Where is there a resource for this kind of stuff?09:50
thorwilalex_21: creative commons has an image search, but i just tried and it delivers nothing!09:51
alex_21I mean if you know of one09:51
alex_21Please09:51
alex_21Oh, ok, but where is this search on creative commons?09:52
thorwilalex_21: actually it's a generic search: http://search.creativecommons.org/09:53
alex_21Oh, thanks, I will bookmark it09:53
alex_21Thanks for all your help you are most helpful09:53
alex_21It is greatly appreciated09:53
alex_21Good night. Bani bash09:53
thorwilalex_21: one moment09:54
thorwilalex_21: flickr allows to search fro creative commons licensed images on their advanced search09:54
thorwilalex_21: you might be better of asking on the ubuntu forum if somebody can photograph a kiwi for you09:55
thorwilalex_21: no problem, good night :)09:55
dilomothorwil: how would you recommend to smooth the black pixels?09:55
dilomohttp://www.piccdrop.com/images/1229938468.png09:55
dilomoalex_21: good night09:56
alex_21Hey, the first result for kiwi is ok I think on the creative commons search09:56
alex_21What do you think?09:56
thorwilalex_21: you checked "Search for works I can use for commercial purposes" and "Search for works I can modify, adapt, or build upon."?09:57
alex_21Oh, no09:57
alex_21I don't see that option09:59
thorwilalex_21: how about http://flickr.com/photos/globetrotter1937/2186754177/sizes/o/10:00
alex_21How about http://search.creativecommons.org/#10:03
alex_21What is the one you sent me?10:04
alex_21Thorwill: What is the one you sent me?10:05
alex_21Thorwil: What is the one you sent me?10:05
thorwildilomo: you try to build an outline with the same radius, just a black line in inkscpae, export that. then erase the black from the image and layer the export above that10:05
thorwildilomo: or just study how that aa looks in the export to mimic it10:06
alex_21And what is its licence?10:06
thorwilalex_21: it's a fruit basket with nuts on the side and kiwis in the middle10:06
dilomothorwil:  good point10:06
thorwilalex_21: the license is cc-by-sa 2.010:07
alex_21What is this?10:07
alex_21http://flickr.com/photos/ithcy/81689926/10:07
thorwilalex_21: that means you can redistribute it and adapt it. you have to give credit to the photographer10:08
thorwilalex_21: that's a young child that didn't enjoy the first spoonful of kiwi fruit10:08
alex_21Oh, lol10:09
alex_21But yours sounds good, how do I give credit to the photographer, in what form is it expected?10:09
thorwilalex_21: afaik the license says it's up to the author how attribution should happen. but very few do. generally, you should list his name and link to the source, the flickr page in this case10:10
thorwilalex_21: and the license10:11
alex_21Oh, thanks a million. I'd hae looked stupid if I had used the image I thought was good10:12
alex_21Had, sorry10:12
alex_21The one of the child who didn't enjoy the kiwi10:12
thorwilalex_21: note that cc license are not compatible with the gpl. so you can't wrap the application and such images and say the whole thing is gpl10:12
thorwilyeah :)10:12
alex_21Well, wink, It is late, and I'm going to bed10:13
alex_21Good night. Bani bash10:13
thorwilsleep you very well :)10:13
alex_21You too10:13
dilomoI have to go out12:13
dilomobye12:13
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kwwiieveryone should give marks blog a read13:28
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knomekwwii, link13:32
kwwiimarkshuttleworth.com13:32
_MMA_Google FTW! :P13:32
knome:P13:32
knomelazyness ftw13:32
_MMA_Uh, no. ;)13:33
knomeyus!13:33
_MMA_kwwii: You got some wallpaper in the works to throw into Jaunty for the time being? Would be nice to see something different when testing disks.13:34
kwwii_MMA_: nope, I don't have anything but I agree that it would be a good idea13:35
_MMA_Maybe that would be a nice little project for the ml? A bacis development wallpaper that we could just change text on from release to release?13:35
_MMA_I do something like it with Studio.13:36
kwwii_MMA_: definitely13:36
kwwiiI'll send an email in a bit13:36
kwwiiI am busy responding to all the emails I got over the weekend13:36
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kwwiisent13:54
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_MMA_Damn wireless.13:58
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thorwilkwwii: i'll have to see if one of my concepts would be suitable or if i might be able to creat a jackalope wallpaper in a day. still have to get back to css-engine svg widgets :/16:41
kwwiithorwil: cool, let me know if you need anything17:45
eddyfhi18:30
eddyfdoes anyone here do graphics work for free?18:30
nandyou better precise your request before anyone answer with a sarcastic comment...18:34
_MMA_haha18:34
_MMA_eddyf: I think you'll find in here, if it's for Ubuntu, then yes. But generally I would say no. It would depend on the details really.18:36
* nand wonders if he can has a free cheezburger18:38
Flannelnand: Only if its an Ubuntu cheeseburger18:38
* _MMA_ hands nand a Buntuburger w/cheez.18:39
nandD'oh! A donnut-cheeseburger!18:40
_MMA_:P18:40
nand:)18:40
* darkmatter poisons all your buntuburger then munches a geekowrap18:41
_MMA_Nerds!!!18:41
thorwilon irc? never18:43
* nand invokes a level 37 Buntuburger baker for dinner tonight18:44
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thorwilso cimi has a new laptop, thanks to donations. http://www.cimitan.com/blog/2008/12/22/wohoooooo-laptop-arrived19:03
thorwilhi robsta19:03
robstahi19:03
_MMA_Nice. Maybe it will get him to make a Murrine release. ;)19:03
robstawhat's new, thorwil19:04
_MMA_So I guess eddyf only wanted a monkey to do free art. Sad.19:04
thorwilrobsta: not much. last time i worked on the widget svg, all imanaged was to change the background color again and again :}19:05
robstathorwil: maybe this too easy, then :P19:06
thorwilrobsta: nah. it's actually tricky because neither neutral gray nor something coffee like are quite right. and it must be right as base for all widget colors19:08
thorwilrobsta: the good thing is that i have lots of free time until the 5th19:08
robstathorwil: me too, means skiing though :)19:09
robstathorwil: anyway, does the bg color not come from the color scheme?19:09
thorwilrobsta: i need the color in the svg to adjust things. i don't expect it to be read from there19:10
robstaright19:10
robstathorwil: i'll try to do a simple minimal flat pixmap-less theme, so i can finally get the release out19:13
thorwilok19:14
robstaprobably similar to the old gorilla theme19:15
robstathorwil: is there a way to get notified when the wiki changes, or will you be posting to the list anyway?19:17
* _MMA_ needs to figure out how to subscribe to "root" pages.19:18
_MMA_robsta: Yes. Look at the top of the page. SHould say "Subscribe" somewhere.19:18
thorwilrobsta: yes, but for you a push to the repo is the interesting thing. i don't think i will spend much time documenting this on the wiki19:18
thorwilrobsta: i will notify you personally, anyway19:19
robstaok, thanks _MMA_, thorwil19:19
thorwilall day easy going, suddenly people in 3 channels want to talk with me :)19:19
_MMA_thorwil!19:20
_MMA_thorwil!!19:20
_MMA_thorwil!!!19:20
_MMA_:P19:20
* robsta shutting up already19:20
* thorwil blasts _MMA_ with leightweight fluffball music19:21
thorwilrobsta: no worries19:21
* _MMA_ likes fluffy music. :) It's Country music I despise. :P19:22
thorwil_MMA_: half the music? but you do like Bluegrass, or?19:22
_MMA_Well, it's more that I don't like the last 10-15 years or so of commercial Country music. I consider Bluegrass different and take it on a more artist-by-artist case.19:24
robstasee you19:25
_MMA_Bye19:25
thorwilcya19:25
* thorwil messed it up, it was country and western. blues brothers19:26
_MMA_mmmm....19:54
* _MMA_ can has cheezburger.19:54
kwwii_MMA_: speaking about country music, these days it is all country-western and not real country20:44
kwwiihank williams sr and such were amazing20:44
_MMA_kwwii: Agreed, but there's still something about that twang I hate. :)20:54
dilomothorwil: Can you please test if the theme in the package installs ok?21:13
dilomohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/NewWave#Downloads21:13
dilomoI'm going to update gnome-look and I don't want any failures21:14
thorwildilomo: sorry, bad timing. i'm logging out for today :/ cya :)21:14
dilomook bye=======21:14
aantnthe new notification code looks interesting21:44
MadsRHaantn -> Has the code been released?21:45
aantnMadsRH: As far as I can tell, no21:45
aantn(I was referring to the concept)21:46
MadsRHoh ;-)21:49

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