/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/12/22/#ubuntu-kernel.txt

thebloggui installed ubuntu 8.04.1 in my computer and then upgraded to 8.10 now on boot it gives an busybox initramfs error03:04
theblogguwhat to do now ?03:04
crimsunthebloggu: it's difficult to predict what error message you're receiving. will you pastebin it? (also, this discussion likely needs to happen in #ubuntu instead of in here.)03:06
thebloggucrimsun, thank you for answering, i tried #ubuntu but nobody answers03:08
thebloggubtw, i was able to boot by typing exit in initramfs03:08
crimsunthebloggu: i'm also in #ubuntu. please direct your responses there.03:09
bullgard4What is the reason that http://lxr.no/ does only list for kernel 2.6.24 a maximum version number of .7 although I am using 2.6.24-22generic?10:31
aboganibullgard4:  Because 22-generic is the Ubuntu version of the kernel (that itself a stable release version as 2.6.24.7).10:34
bullgard4abogani: Thank you for explaining.10:40
aboganibullgard4: Don't mention it.10:48
Kanohi, any ideas about the nfs kernel server problem yet?11:57
apwsconklin, so ...14:26
apwis there not a default list kernel apport reporting list?14:26
apwwould we not not want to report a superset for our purposes?14:26
sconklinso I'm writing a script that gathers what we want and creates the apport report on the suspend/resume testing. There are required data for a kernel report, and I'm including all those.14:27
sconklinSo exactly, we will use a superset.14:27
apwis not the only thing we need to add the logfile, so would we not add a new 'type' of report14:28
sconklinKernel apport reports are now trggered by an oops, so I just wrote a python script to generate the report.14:28
apwlike is defined in /usr/share/apport/kernel_ooops14:28
sconklinright, we are not adding a new type of report, as we want to use all the existing support14:29
sconklinWhat I've written is not terribly complicated - there's not much to creating a report.14:29
apwits a shame that these report definitions are not classes, so they could be overridden and extended14:30
apwi think that we should leave the user warning, i think its appropriate they get the indication we are sucking info up14:30
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sconklinI agree, it's evil to collect information without asking.14:31
pgraner_ltrtg: did we ever decide when we were going to put the upstream origin in /proc/version_signature for Luis?14:32
rtghuh? I thought all we were doing was adding the minor number in /proc/version14:33
apwthe write up i saw said (upstream version) at the end of /proc/version_signature14:37
apwwhere in /proc/version would we put it14:38
rtgI think apw and amit were involved in the string stuff, though I remember that they agreed there was enough info in it for kerneloops.org14:39
apwthat was about exposing our build number so we knew which kernel it really was14:39
apwand including a -Ubuntu tag so they knew it was our fault14:40
rtgright, it basically supersedes what was in /proc/version_signature14:40
apwi think what pgraner_lt is referring to is the exposure of the 2.6.28.9 side of things14:40
rtgoh, duh.14:40
apwindicating which of the stable releases you have sucked up14:40
rtgI'll put it on my list14:41
pgraner_ltapw: correct, Luis was complaining that he had no idea which source we were based on and asked for some way to check it.14:41
apwits probabally not appropraite to expose it in our version number literally because we don't necessarily suck up all the patches14:42
rtgapw: I've only dumped one so far.14:42
rtgone patch, that is.14:42
apwluckily the data is in the main Makefile so it should be simplish to find it14:42
apwyeah i didn't mean we wen't trying to track it 100%, more that it can't and now isn't guarenteed to be actually so14:44
rtgapw: soo you think it would be misleading?14:44
apwi was implying it would be missleading for it to be in any of our main version numbers14:45
apwi think its entirly appropriate in /etc/version_signature as a 'based on' kind of thing14:45
apwanyone know which VT we switch to during suspend?14:48
rtgapw: I'm pretty sure its 114:50
apwrtg did you jauntyise your machine yet?14:58
rtguse space? no way, but I've been running .28 kernels on several machines.14:59
rtgs/use/user/14:59
Kanortg: and does nfs work?14:59
Kanoeven showmount -e fails here..14:59
rtgdunno, I don't have any nfs servers.14:59
Kanoit is really hard to create one15:00
Kanoinstall nfs-kernel-server and add a dir to /etc/exports15:00
apwpretty sure that it won't work, that there were bugs outstanding upstream on it anyhow15:01
Kanoand who wants to fix em15:01
apwi am sure the nfs upstream devs are on the case15:02
Kanoi dont think so, because i mailed one of em and no error was even known15:02
rtgapw: didn't kees suspect a user space problem?15:03
apwahh was it kees, perhaps i forget, cirtainly there was an upstream bug bandied about15:04
apwthe limits on versions of a package in a PPA is going to seriously dammage my head16:48
apwrtg it would be helpful for debugging say against intrepid, to be able to offer an 2.6.27 and a 2.6.27.N mainline drop of the kernel for differential testing (say)16:48
apwbut there is no easy way to push those into the same PPA due to the 'one version' issue16:49
apwany thoughts as to the right way to handle this16:49
rtgapw: I thought we could have multiple PPAs per user now?16:49
rtgapw: failing that, track down cprov16:50
apwhmmmm... fair point16:50
rtgapw: hey - I was just reading about the cpufreq defaults performance v.s. ondemand.  our current default is performance, but doesn't ondeman make more sense? Or does it matter if the kernel can stay in HALT long enough to make a difference?16:52
apwour default in the kernel is performance, but we switch to ondemand after boot16:53
apwsomething Keybuk was telling us about, that its faster to boot in performance mode16:53
rtgapw: ah. so my reasoning _is_ sound. how rare :()16:53
rtgs/:()/:)/16:54
apwyep, you are right indeed16:54
apwi was fooled by the default too16:54
rtgapw: now that you mention it, I kind of remember that conversation.16:54
apwi think it was in the session where we picked the config opotions16:54
apwand when we were looking at pushing all that =y16:55
apw/etc/init.d/powernowd seems to switch us over to ondemand16:55
apw$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor16:56
apwondemand16:56
rtgok, I'm convinced16:56
apw:) sorry16:57
Keybukand if that doesn't, gnome-power-manager will17:07
rtgnot if your're running a server17:08
Nafallortg: what? you don't run g-p-m on your servers?! ;-)17:08
rtgI like that clean command line interface.17:09
Nafallo:-)17:09
* Nafallo wonders a bit why you have powernowd on your server though :-)17:09
rtgNafallo: huh, it seems to be a desktop package. its not on my server17:11
Nafallooh. thought the discussion was about ondemand scaling on servers17:11
* Nafallo goes hiding again :-)17:11
loolKeybuk: So we could unseed powernowd now?18:51
Keybuklool: err, no idea18:52
KeybukI think I mentioned it, and got told we need it on servers18:52
loolKeybuk: We could move it to the server seed, or simply assume that new installs don't need it?  It would be nice to skip one init script during boot, even if it's a small one :)18:57
CarlFKjaunty box, for a few days plugging in a usb drive (both hard and thumb) only show "usb 5-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice" and on lsusb.  no /dev gets created.  I can't find anything about his on lp.  known issue, or should I report?19:22
CarlFK#310697 how do I mark that as "jaunty"  so it shows up on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+bugs20:02
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loolrtg: Around?23:49
rtglool: for a few minutes more. whats up?23:50
loolrtg: Poulsbo DRM is basically a fork of the regular DRM, and isn't namespaced; it uses the same symbol names and all23:50
loolrtg: So if you try to load the regular drm and psb-drm, it blows up23:50
loolrtg: Are you saying it would work if one was built into the kernel and the other was a module?23:50
rtgno, I think we'll have a separate flavour, and hence, seperate config options.23:50
loolrtg: check hardy-lum (ubuntu/media/drm-poulsbo; CONFIG_DRM_PSB only set on lpia)23:51
loolrtg: Ok23:51
loolrtg: What flavour will we use for psb on i386?23:51
rtgI don't know yet, perhaps lpia?23:52
loolYou mean lpia flavour but i386 arch23:52
loolWould work I guess23:52
rtgcorrect23:52
rtgwas that all? its about beer time here.23:53
loolrtg: Mind if I copy/paste this exchange into the list to close the discussion?  I'll Cc: amitk who I understand is still looking at lpia stuff23:53
loolrtg: It was all23:53
rtglool: no problem.23:53
loolThanks23:53
rtgI'm outta here23:54

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