[01:55] New bug: #307408 in samba (main) "System freeze when working on Samba or Cifs mounted share of NetApp server" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/307408 [02:23] Hi. I just setup ProFTPD and am trying to FTP into my /var/www directory. Whenever I try to make changes, I'm getting a permission denied error. [02:26] Any ideas? I chmoded the www folder to 664 and am still having trouble. [08:25] ive installed a counter strike 1.6 server onto intrepid ibex server, how can i get it to autostart without having to login and start it via ssh? [09:01] hey guys if I already have php and apache (but I run lighttpd) how can I install mysql, just apt-get mysql? [09:02] mysql-server [09:02] thank you Jeeves_ [09:02] can I install phpmyadmin from the repositories as well or would I have to do that manually since I'm using lighttpd, my web directory is /var/www [09:03] you can install it [09:03] it will place a symlink in /var/www [09:04] thanks again Jeeves_ [09:04] oh cool it lets one choose what web server they're running [09:05] hmm I don't see a symlink, I did put 'lighttpd' during installation, perhaps I should restart lighttpd [09:06] Ow, I only installed it with apache (lighty sucks) so i'm not sure how it works with lighty [09:06] haha okay thanks [09:10] Jeeves_: do you know where phpmyadmin is installed to/ [09:10] ? [09:10] ah, /etc/phpmyadmin [09:11] Blaenk: The config files are there [09:11] yeah I get it now thanks :) [09:11] /usr/share/phpmyadm (or something) [09:12] yeah [09:14] do you know where I go to change my password Jeeves_? for phpmyadmin, I overwrote htpasswd.setup with my credentials in it but it still only accepts user admin and no password [09:14] In your mysql-config [09:15] hmm [09:15] mysqladm password [09:15] orso [09:15] oh thanks [09:23] is there a way I can list users or something, I only know of root and myself, blaenk, somehow though I'm still able to login with user 'admin' and no password [09:24] yeah I even went into mysql database in phpmyadmin, clicked user and it doesn't even show 'admin' [09:24] only trace of 'admin' I see is in htpasswd.setup but I already overwrote that [09:35] oh I figured it out [09:35] it's in the privileges section in phpmyadmin, didn't even know there was such a section [09:39] ugh, I'm still able to login [09:40] it's allowing any user to login without a password [09:40] not just admin [09:40] /but if I login with root I get all privileges [09:41] fixed it :D [10:59] hi [10:59] when i rebooted Ubuntu Server 8.04 all the /tmp contents got cleared [10:59] yes. [10:59] is there a way i can prevent it [11:00] chmod 000 /tmp :) [11:00] /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh:rm -f /tmp/.clean /var/run/.clean /var/lock/.clean [11:01] /etc/init.d/mountall-bootclean.sh: # Clean /tmp, /var/lock, /var/run [11:01] Nafallo, so comment it in that bash script [11:01] right [11:02] however, if you put stuff you want to keep in /tmp you are probably doing it wrong. [11:02] Nafallo, yes [11:02] Thanks Nafallo [11:02] nw [11:03] so if i comment it in those scripts it would prevent it from clearing the /tmp folders [11:03] right [11:03] is that what i understand you correctly [11:03] which you shouldn't really, yes :-) [11:04] actually... no. [11:04] leave bootmisc [11:05] /lib/init/bootclean.sh is probably right [11:05] the clean_tmp() function [11:05] evil, evil hack to do it that way though. [11:07] remove it that is [11:07] Nafallo, I am running Ubuntu 8.04 Server [11:08] yes. so? [11:08] I did find / -name "bootclean.sh" -print [11:08] if you're putting persistant files in /tmp you're doing it wrong :-) [11:08] yeah i understand that [11:09] there are some application files which is in /tmp folder [11:09] kaushal: So fix the application [11:10] next upgrade, you change will probably be overwritten [11:10] and than, all your data are belong to /tmp [11:11] Nafallo, do i have to comment out the function clean_tmp() [11:11] in bootclean shell script [11:13] kaushal: wouldn't know. I've told you were to look. I don't want to break your system further :-) [11:15] Nafallo: :) [11:15] kaushal: You're fixing symptoms, not the problem [11:15] why would you want to do that === CaTeYe is now known as cateye [12:45] jamie_: you didn't have too many things to change in my code? [12:55] didrocks: your code seemed it would work fine, but basically wanted things in different places [12:55] s/but/but I/ [12:56] jdstrand: yeah, I saw it :) [12:57] well, glad it can helped a little :) [12:57] didrocks: you helped a lot, thanks! [12:57] :) [12:57] you're welcome :) === liberfiasco is now known as memenode [15:01] * ScottK filed Bug 310599, so here's your chance to scream if you object. [15:01] Launchpad bug 310599 in ubuntu "Please sync mysql-dfsg-5.1 5.1.30-2 from Debian experimental (main)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/310599 [15:32] hello, what is the best way (best practice) to keep Apache from starting automatically on boot? [15:33] invoke-rc.d apache[2] remove [15:33] thanks [15:38] ScottK: have you got 5.1 to build on jaunty? [15:39] zul: Yes. [15:39] I test built it last night and it succeeded. [15:39] with the mysql-test suite? [15:39] There were test suite failures, but they didn't break the build. [15:39] got a log? [15:40] No. I didn't think that far ahead. [15:40] can you send me a log? [15:40] No, since I haven't got one. [15:41] * ScottK will toss it at a ppa. [15:47] Deeps: ok, I can't seem to get that command to work correctly - invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/apache2 not found. [15:48] using update-rc.d apache2 remove also seems to fail [15:48] zul: It should appear here in due course: https://launchpad.net/~kitterman/+archive [15:48] ScottK: k thanks [15:49] urr, yeah, not invoke, update [15:49] update throws this error:\ [15:50] update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/apache2 exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force) [15:50] should i force it? [15:50] yea [15:50] it's warning you that the script still exists, are you sure you want to prevent it from starting automatically? [15:50] thanks for your help, that worked [16:30] me waves - have a good xmas ! === memenode is now known as libervisco [16:50] zul: Built on i386 and amd64 (lpia still in progress) so have fun with the build logs: https://launchpad.net/~kitterman/+archive === jamie_ is now known as iclebyte [17:32] I need help with sudo... not sure exactly what i did but now I can't do anything via sudo... says user is not in the sudoers file [17:37] and that is my only user... [17:37] how do I get prcledges back? [17:38] LeeQ: boot in maintenance and in the server console fix the user [17:39] how do I do that? [17:41] LeeQ: go to the server and in the server keyboard press CRTL-ALT-DEL then the reboot process will be started [17:41] at the grub prompt select the recovery mode [17:41] that will leave you in a root shell [17:42] there you can fix the user [17:42] then [17:42] ah, ok, then just add the user back to the admin group? [17:42] just exit the shell and all will start as normal [17:42] LeeQ: I don't know what you did ... [17:42] LeeQ: but you need to fix the user with sudo permissions [17:43] I think I removed the user from the group inadvertantly [18:18] hey folks [18:18] i woke up this morning and out of the blue my 8.10 server can no long do user authentication against my OSX Server [18:19] nothing changed on either end - logs on the apple side don't show any authention errors...any ideas about troubleshooting from the ubuntu side? [18:19] getent passwd shows the directory users [18:20] is it straight up samba ? [18:20] no samba involved [18:21] gotta know what protocol we're talking about [18:21] :) [18:21] ldap+kerberos [18:21] oh [18:21] out of the blue is always scary [18:21] :D [18:21] exactly [18:21] no updates, no changes, nothing [18:21] logically if you didnt do anything, someone or something else did [18:22] so, might wanna start on that end [18:22] things dont just happen, except full disks and such, or, well i know nothing of osx,- some sort of auto update feature ? [18:23] auto-updates are disabled [18:23] in this case, its easy to think of the osx server as a BSD box [18:23] and nobody else has access to either box with enough privs ? [18:23] no [18:25] looking at the logs now [18:25] although I suppose if it was hacked then I won't see anything [18:26] yeah, could be [18:26] fraid i dont know enough about ldap [18:26] although I doubt that was the case...but could happen [18:50] New bug: #236640 in open-iscsi (main) "iSCSI install fails under hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/236640 [18:54] someone here ever used LVM on softraid during an install ?? I'm not able to find any docs about it [18:58] MatBoy: what are you wanting to know [19:01] zicada, problem solved :D [19:01] * SpaceBass wipes egg from his face [19:01] ha, what was it ? [19:01] you did something didnt you ? :D [19:02] no, lack of something [19:02] server out of HD space [19:02] lol [19:02] haha [19:02] i actually said that too [19:02] even tho i didnt really think that was it [19:03] you did say that...i see that now [19:12] zul: not sure if you saw my message this weekend, but I have updated ebox packages in my ppa [19:17] Faust-C: how should I set it up ? make 2 raiddisks and set LVM on it ? [19:18] the setting up is up to you [19:18] and yes you make each disk a md and then lay LVM on top [19:18] Faust-C: but each MD is fixed [19:18] so it's not an advantage [19:19] what do you mean each md is fixed [19:20] a hdd (physical or raid) is fixed of course [19:20] LVM deals w/ the file system(s) not the physical aspects of the storage medium [19:21] sommer: cool i didnt see it this weekend but send an email to remind to have a look [19:21] Faust-C: ok, but when I have 2x 250GB in raid1 using softraid I can't put multiple LVM's on it ofcourse :S [19:21] sommer: it probably wont get done til after christmas though since today is my last day at work [19:26] zul: no problem [19:28] MatBoy: wow you just confused me [19:28] my setup is 4 1Tb disks making 2 TB of usable space [19:29] and multiple lvm volumes (around 8) [19:29] and you dont make a huge ass LVM, you use what you need [19:30] and use the correct file system (xfs doesnt shrink) [19:30] Faust-C: weird, I can make a MD1 raid one, but no LVM on it [19:30] :S [19:30] you have to commit it [19:30] let me look [19:30] MatBoy: each hdd is a md dev [19:31] md-1 and md0 (example) [19:31] Faust-C: yep, have that here [19:31] mhh [19:31] how do you mean than ? [19:31] I have 2 disks, I raid them [19:31] raid1 [19:31] and than LVM on it ? [19:31] yes [19:32] weird, I thought the same, but was not possible [19:32] cause you have to commit (write) the changes [19:32] I'm no linux noob, but never used LVM :) [19:32] yes and go back [19:32] then reboot and it will 'see' it [19:32] ok [19:32] remember some things arent as dynamic as you would expect them to be [19:32] * MatBoy is starting the installer [19:33] yes, I had that idea too [19:33] I know that when you lost all MD's you need to create MD and exit directly and everything is back [19:33] example [19:34] mhh, p5K really has a bad onboard nic [19:37] Faust-C: mhh, why Faust ? :) [19:37] what [19:38] where ? [19:38] when [19:40] now ? [19:40] no later [19:41] One of those Yukons ? [19:41] sudo chmod -R 2770 /projects/ Two members of the same group can read and write but if one member creates a directory even though the permissions say read write for the group 2nd group member can not read or write. [19:42] * Faust-C uses ug+rwx [19:43] We will see if we can break it using that [19:46] Faust-C: OK, I will stretch up than : [19:46] Faust-C: seems to work now [19:46] Faust-C: ever used encrypted LVM ? good performance ? [19:47] not in production no [19:47] too much of a risk [19:47] ill encrypt backups but not the live system [19:48] Faust-C: yes true indeed, my concern too [19:53] hell which should i do first [19:53] postfix or dovecot ? === _cateye is now known as CaTeYe === CaTeYe is now known as cateye [19:55] Hi there, can anyone tell me why my /etc/networking/interfaces is read-only as root? 8.10 server [19:56] you mean sudo [19:56] yeah [19:56] Faust-C: postfix [19:56] Faust-C: why do you want to use dovecot ? [19:56] MatBoy: ty [19:56] Faust-C: NP ! [19:57] MatBoy: im just trying to go by docs on website [19:57] Faust-C: We ran the ug+rw on the server and both client machines but again have a permission denied error. [19:57] Faust-C: tyhere is a damn good howto on howtoforge [19:57] MatBoy: link [19:57] RediXe: did you restart smb and is smb properly configured?> [19:57] Faust-C: right [19:57] :P [19:57] Having a problem with SSH, pubkey auth failure, every other computer can connect to it just fine but when i connect to it from a certain one, it fails everytime (when no in a LAN) [19:57] hehe some loser is explaning here that Windows ME is a previous release in front of XP... [19:57] wtf [19:57] :P [19:58] Delvien: what does log files say [19:58] Faust-C: Not using smb - sshfs and git (using git at the moment for testing) [19:58] Faust-C: on the client or the hose? [19:58] host* [19:58] Delvien: both [19:58] RediXe: oic, what do logs say [19:58] Faust-C: where do i see the log :x [19:58] Delvien: /var/log [19:59] hehe, he now is seeing she has an old IE :P [19:59] its amazing, out of all 5 of these ubuntu server books i have [19:59] I doubt if IE7 runs on ME :P [19:59] NONE have info on making mail server [19:59] LOL [19:59] Faust-C: /me is searching for you !! [19:59] Faust-C: there is no logfile for ssh in there [19:59] MatBoy: ty [19:59] Faust-C: with git it is attempting to create a file and gets a permission denied unless we run the chmod -R 2770 (or ug+rw) ... not sure where a log would be as this is our first time playing with git [20:00] Delvien: messages, auth and daemon logs [20:00] Faust-C: this one is kinda nice for you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97600 [20:00] RediXe: all logs should be /var/log [20:00] Faust-C: okay, I will take a look [20:00] Faust-C: damn LVM is really layered :) [20:00] MatBoy: yeah im trying to make it simple [20:00] Faust-C: yeah, I used it to setup a system for... uhm, dunno anymore [20:01] but enterprise lvl as wel [20:01] Faust-C: doable using that howto [20:01] Faust-C: or use qmail [20:02] beb [20:02] damn, why is this chick so hot every time [20:02] http://images.lekkerding.com/cbhjnsdhgsfgh.jpg [20:02] :D [20:02] Faust-C: Yes I see some logs but nothing descriptive enough to tell me to look it for errors. eg there is no git.log or anything of the sort [20:03] Faust-C: I dont see anything that is remotely close to SSH in auth or daemon *.log [20:05] It says this "Host key verification failed [20:05] but i connect from the same client inside the lan and it works fine [20:05] Hi there, can anyone tell me why my /etc/networking/interfaces is read-only (sudo) 8.10 server [20:06] i cant "touch test" in homedir either [20:06] all in "mount" are "rw" [20:06] Delvien: does ssh allow outside connections not in lan [20:12] Faust-C: Yeah, i do it on my server, but on my desktop im not able to for some reason [20:13] Delvien: get a new key [20:13] see what happens [20:14] jmedina :) wC! [20:15] Faust-C: Have, still doesnt do it [20:16] Delvien: and the logs have no relevant errors [20:17] nope [20:17] when i try to connect, just host key verification failed [20:17] Only happens on the one client (my phone) [20:17] Delvien: odd [20:18] LoveGuru: hi, what is "wC"? [20:18] user1 runs sudo chmod -R ug+rw /path/to/dir run same command on server to it's proper directory and user2 does same for his directory. User1 shows user1:developers server shows root:developers user2 shows user2:developers Everything works for a little bit until user1 has to make a change to a directory that user2 created then we have to run the sudo chmod -R ug+rw /path/to/dir all over again to get past a permission [20:18] denied error. [20:18] jmedina: Welcome :) sorry for shortcut :\ [20:19] RediXe: start over [20:19] Faust-C: what do you mean by "start over" - like wipe the server and start over? or explain my error again in a different way? [20:20] make a completely new directory [20:20] and give it proper perms [20:20] make sure the folder its in has proper perms as well [20:20] if its in /srv/git make sure /srv has perms set [20:25] on the server it's: /dir1 root:data (all users are part of data group) /dir1/a/ root:developers (only developers are part of this group /dir1/a/a/ root:developers /dir1/a/a/a/ root:developers /dir1/a/a/a/* root:developers I really don't want to set up another git repository if i can help it [20:25] I need help on removing the RSA from my apache server can anybody help? [20:26] RediXe: i dont think you should have root be owner [20:26] considering there is no real root [20:26] also i find that a sercurity risk imo [20:26] but thats me [20:26] Well, then who should be the owner? [20:26] I need help on removing the RSA from my apache server can anybody help? [20:26] RediXe: someone in that group [20:27] Faust-C: is there a way to just change the owner and not owner:group? I want to keep the correct groups that it already has [20:28] RediXe: just chown : [20:28] Faust-C: nvm, chown user1 /dir [20:28] Faust-C: I don't want to have to re-assign all the groups to the sub directories :P [20:29] Faust-C: Okay, I set my user account as the owner of the directory [20:29] RediXe: next time dont use root [20:30] Faust-C: I just went with what I saw :) [20:30] Faust-C: So, now that my user is the owner of the root directory and all sub directories is there anything else I need to change so that I don't have to keep running chmod all the time [20:30] RediXe: well now ya know, ive had similar issues [20:31] RediXe: like i said just make sure a normal user owns the top dir [20:31] if it doesnt work start over, make a new dir and go from there [20:32] Faust-C: We will give it a shot but if I have to start over it will just be moving all the subdirectories into a temp dir. Deleting the top dir. Making it. Setting perms and then mv all the stuff back into it [20:33] you will have to chown -R and possibly chmod -R all of it [20:33] *maybe* [20:41] mhh, 8.10 is really not better than 8.04 [20:45] hmm, ive got hits on my firewall from Cheeseworm, when trying to connect from my ssh client. Is someone eavsdropping my connection? [20:46] Delvien: sounds like time to use wireshark [20:48] What will that do for me? [20:48] Delvien: i suggest you look into it [20:49] There are no interfaces on which a capture can be done [20:49] sigh, everything has to be so difficult [20:58] why does 8.10 boots so bad ? [20:59] Delvien: you have to be patient [21:00] Faust-C: Sorry, just been trying to fix this for 3 hours [21:00] Delvien: np, i completely understand [21:00] Faust-C: figured out what the problem was, the application on my phone was holding an old RSA key. [21:01] Delvien: see i thought so === TimP is now known as coolrazor [21:12] will procmail auto create folders in users' maildirs that I specify in .procmailrc? [21:19] coolrazor: yes it does [21:20] Thank you. I just got tasked with setting procmail on a production server and I've only done it twice at home :/ [21:43] how can i check my system configuration ? [21:45] maybe apt-get check will do what u require [22:02] i swear i might get spammed for that email but oh well [22:03] im tired of ppl writing half a** books, charging money and then leaving the end user broke [22:17] I have sendmail running to handle php mail() requests but I don't have a FQDN. In the past I've configured it so that it is tricked into thinking the hostname is the FQDN using the hosts file, but I forgot how to do that. Does anyone here know how? [22:21] tsrk: add an entry to your /etc/hosts file, something like: [22:21] 192.168.1.1 mail.domain.tld mail [22:30] can anyone tell me what goes wrong here? http://www.swiatechs.com/dmesg.txt === jussio1 is now known as jussi01 [22:54] Hi, I just setup ProFTPD on my Ubuntu web server and am getting permission denied errors every time I try and edit a file from a remote machine. Any ideas? [22:55] Kevin__: edit how? [22:55] via FTP [22:55] like conf files [22:55] no, it is my /var/www/ [22:55] Kevin__: are you in www-data group [22:56] and i would use /srv/www (just my opinion) [22:56] I'm not quite sure, any way I can find out? [22:56] ... regarding the www-data group [22:57] groups username [22:57] username being your username [22:58] The server is logged in under my only account and I am logging into FTP via the same account [22:59] also, this is probably an important part -> I can't edit the files without sudo'ing in on the actual machine [22:59] Kevin__: .... is your user in www-data group [22:59] you need to ssh into machine and do 'groups kevin' [23:00] if you arent add yourself to group and make sure the folder has rw permission for group [23:00] ah got it [23:00] one sec [23:01] It is outputting "kevin adm cdrom plugdev lpadmin netdev admin sambashare" [23:03] Faust-C: What is the command I should run to move myself into the www data group? [23:03] Kevin__: to avoid messing you up, man usermod [23:04] usermod -g kevin -G admn cdrom plugdev lpadmin netdev admin sambashare www-data kevin [23:04] READ before you do that [23:04] run "man usermod" and then do that whole string? [23:06] yes [23:06] how does one install a local deb pkg and have it resolve deps as well [23:07] dpkg -i spits unresolved deps but i want them to be pulled in w/ i install the pkg [23:09] Faust-C: When I open up man usermod, I can't type unless I type a few random characters to get the "Log file" prompt to come up at the bottom of the screen. I entered the command and am getting "Cannot write to """ [23:10] Kevin__: .... you use the arrow keys to move around [23:10] i suggest you read a lil moe [23:10] more* [23:11] alright, I'm just a little bit confused. Is there a way I can easily add my user to the www-data group or not [23:11] i would just ssh into the box and sudo to root then edit the files with vi [23:12] foxytheold: thats not sound advice for a novice user [23:12] the problem is that I have to allow others to FTP into it and they are even less savvy then me [23:13] can I just do sudo adduser kevin www-data?? [23:13] Kevin__: that right there is why you need to read [23:14] i gave you the cmd and man page to read [23:14] Faust-C: I'm new to the terminal (and Linux all together) and I really just don't understand what that page is even telling me. I really appreciate the help though, don't get the feeling that I don't! [23:14] Kevin read this http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-add-user-to-group/ you might find it usefull [23:15] Kevin__: lol i understand [23:15] the wiki is a great place to start [23:15] you want to be careful how you approach problems, could lead you more pain that you want [23:16] by the way, I read online that the files have to be owned by www-data for them to work.. is it okay if they are owned by kevin? [23:16] i found howtoforge to have good guides on server setup's enough to give you a good start for sure [23:17] owned is fine, just as long as group is www-data [23:18] is www-data considered a primary or secondary group.. and how can you tell/ [23:20] Before I break anything, will the command # usermod -a -G www-data kevin work? [23:21] it should do [23:21] do a id kevin to see your current groups [23:22] yeah, it added me to the group [23:22] thanks a ton [23:22] one last question - the group on my www folder is "kevin" and www-data isn't an option for me to choose from. [23:23] usergroup -g www-data kevin would probs of been the best way to do what u needed , but i could be wrong [23:24] adduser $USER $GROUP [23:25] wow, it worked. Thanks again guys, I really appreciate it [23:25] foxytheold: his other groups will be gone w/ that cmd [23:27] arrrg! just lost me screen .. loool tpping to many keys at once.. oh well [23:27] tapping even [23:32] Hi, can anyone see why my boot stops: http://www.swiatechs.com/dmesg.txt [23:34] hi, someone has ever used RedHat Spacewalk and can share impressions? [23:34] eolo999: it doesnt work on ubuntu (yet) [23:34] i know [23:34] Swiateckix: try testing mem or disabling acpi [23:35] you dont have some odd device in there do ya [23:35] eolo999: i would ask in #centos [23:35] i was just curious to hear impressions [23:35] Faust-C: how do i disable acpi? :) [23:35] the underlaying lib is the same of ubuntu kvm-jeos [23:35] Swiateckix: that is something the mighty google will have to answer [23:36] eolo999: idk i looked at it and it seems pretty nice [23:36] Faust-C: i have a Gigabyte GA-G31M-S2L ( http://www.linuxhcl.org/browse/product+gigabyte-ga-g31m-s2l?id=6523 ) + a SATA disk, and a dvd drive.. thats it [23:36] supposedly ebox is to be on par w/ it but i dont like ebox all that much [23:36] Swiateckix: could be some piece of hw going out [23:36] going out? [23:37] as in failing? [23:37] i have to choose a platform tu build some services on and i found spacewalk which i didn't know before... but i would prefer remaining on ubuntu ;) [23:37] Swiateckix: yes [23:38] eolo999: well imo they all add un-needed pkgs [23:38] so they can make a stable system unstable [23:38] but thats my opinion [23:38] i hope to create something similar to NRPE [23:38] well its a brand new MB, and well the disk and dvd-drive aren't to old.. but it could be [23:38] or whatever nagios calls it [23:38] Swiateckix: test mem and disk [23:39] Faust-C: Thx [23:39] i will try [23:39] I'd really like to find a viable way to rapidly deploy and administer a modest range of machines [23:40] *virtual [23:40] * eolo999 google for NRPE [23:40] eolo999: what are you using for VM [23:41] i use esx and manually install each VM atm, takes no more than 10-15 mins actually less [23:41] now i'm trying xen on 8.04 but it's not a definitive choice... we're just testing [23:42] cant u make one vm then clone it,, just a though , never tried it myself [23:42] vanilla xen has no decent management tools [23:42] foxytheold: yeah but its not that simple [23:42] eolo999: i would suggest looking into how suse does it [23:42] why as long as you dont setup the network setting in the vm to b cloned.. [23:42] i forgot what its called but it uses a xml file to store settings and installs w/o user input [23:43] foxytheold: there is more to it than that [23:44] * Faust-C tries to remember wth its called about some "UUID" for the VM, idk if linux suffers from this [23:44] there probs is but that has to be the route for quote "a faster deployment" [23:44] the nice thing about spacewalk is that it goes from kickstarting to configuring (cfengine/puppet) and updating packages... that's why i asked for it.. [23:45] eolo999: yeah i completely understand [23:46] i plan on makng my own app for administration [23:46] or at least presenting it to someone [23:47] if you go ahead...i'm in...at my office asked me to write 'a bunch of scripts' to do it! [23:47] eolo999: heh yeah im wanting to use python for the lang [23:48] a node/hub senerio [23:51] Faust-C: really let me know if you open a public project.. [23:52] eolo999: PM [23:55] Faust-C: im performing a memtest now [23:55] the ACPI disable seems to have removed some debug information, but there still is a problemt === liberfiasco is now known as libervisco