[00:00] <ericrost> any idea how to set a usb audio device as the default in xfce?
[00:44] <jmichaelx> would anyone here know how to get the debian menu to show up in the xfce menu?
[00:46] <crimsun> have you installed the 'menu' package?
[00:49] <jmichaelx> yes. i have menu and menu-xdg installed... and have also run update-menus
[00:54] <ermoved> jmichaelx, did you open xfce menu editor and make sure the system menu is included?
[00:54] <jmichaelx> i do have 'other' listed in my xfce menu, but i don't really think that is the debian menu... i don't think it quite lists everything
[00:55] <ermoved> what about system
[00:55] <jmichaelx> ermoved: i didn't. i can look.
[00:55] <ermoved> there should be an entry to --include-- the "system" menu items
[00:55] <jmichaelx> wellm system is just a short list and is always in the xfce menu
[00:56] <ermoved> no
[00:56] <jmichaelx> yeah, but that is not the same as the debian menu
[00:56] <ermoved> well okay, there is the "system" section in xfce menu, but there is also the "system menu" that should be included
[00:57] <ermoved> hmm.. try selecting "use custom menu file" and selecting the menu file created by menu-xdg?  i'm at a loss.
[00:58] <jmichaelx> hmm
[00:59] <ermoved> totally baffled as to what is missing/what you need.  the menu is typically automatically updated and includes everything...
[00:59] <jmichaelx> are you aware of what the debian menu is?
[01:00] <ermoved> apparently not
[01:01] <jmichaelx> for example, i want to see some gnome & kde utilities in my xfce menu that it is not listing... the debian menu lists everything
[01:01] <ermoved> right
[01:01] <ermoved> my xfce menu lists all my gnome and kde programs.  this is why im confused.
[01:02] <ermoved> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/menu-xdg/+bug/71317
[01:02] <jmichaelx> that may be, although i have never seen the xfce menu list everything like you are saying.
[01:02] <ermoved> you can add it to your xfce menu if you follow that link
[01:02] <ermoved> just edit menu.xml
[01:04] <jmichaelx> ok, i appreciate it.... i didn't recall having had such a hard time adding the debian menu in the past. this bug repot explains it.
[01:04] <jmichaelx> report*
[01:05] <ermoved> np
[01:05] <ermoved> i'm still baffled, though
[01:05] <ermoved> all my apps show up in the xfce menu
[01:05] <ermoved> wierd.
[01:06] <jmichaelx> i think if you check , there are actually packages installed on your system that are not listed in your xfce menu.... that has always been the case
[01:06] <llllluis> hello everyone good nite 2 u all
[01:06] <ermoved> i'm checking now, actually
[01:08] <jmichaelx> ermoved: that is actually the case with any desktop environment... gnome and kde are the same way. many things are not in the default menus.
[01:09] <ermoved> i must be missing a package... cause my "debian menu" entry is empty.
[01:09] <ermoved> haw
[01:09] <llllluis> i really love to switch to xubuntu, but i found that we can try it before intalling it and the reason 4 me not to is cause i got this Kyocera 650 from Iusacell to get internet access and while on trial i amazingly saw that xubuntu do reconize my Kyocera, the problem is that it keeps discconecting from it and also it keeps closing the browser can somebody tell me how to fix this pls???????
[01:12] <ermoved> hmm.. now i cant right click my menu and deselect the option to use menu.xml
[01:12] <ermoved> nice
[01:15] <llllluis> so does anyone knows how to fix my problem pls
[01:30] <llllluis> so guys does any of you knows how can i fix this pls???????
[01:35] <llllluis> ok guys if this is the case can some one at least refer me with somebody or someplace where i can find how to solve this pls???????
[01:36] <camerongroom> would somebody please help me get my bottom taskbar back in gnome
[02:47] <glennop> hi, i have a question about firefox ...
[02:50] <l_r> hello
[02:51] <l_r> is there a way to make xfce show the full name of an icon on the desktop?
[02:51] <l_r> when it is long ,it is trunked
[02:51] <l_r> i dont want that
[02:54] <glennop> sorry, i do not know.
[03:19] <Mishabuntu> hi everyone, I'm new here
[03:32] <unix> hey guys im needing some help with gfx drivers
[03:33] <unix> im on my moms laptop and her monitor is broken so im using a secondary monitor
[03:33] <unix> the gfx card is an intel 945gm
[03:34] <unix> ive tried using the default xserver-xorg-video-i810 and it doesnt work or im not doing something right since its the second display
[03:34] <unix> tive tried xserver-xorg-video-intel as well
[03:35] <unix> anyone have any ideas/?
[03:36] <cmdbbq> just switched to xubuntu, and i was wondering if anyone has a recomendation for a music player? what are you guys using?
[03:36] <unix> audacious
[03:46] <tomkat> howdy--is this the correct chan for a total newb?
[03:46] <laughalots> anyoen actove?
[03:48] <unix> im nt getting any answers so i'd have to say no
[03:48] <Mishabuntu>  I was wondering if anyone could help me with a trouble.... prboom (like doom) 8 bit mode looks similar to monochrome, but bluish and black. The GLmode looks fine but I need to have the video in 8 bit mode. Do I need to change a setting in the config file? or?
[03:48] <unix> no idea sorry
[03:50] <unix> hey guys im needing some help with gfx drivers
[03:50] <unix>  im on my moms laptop and her monitor is broken so im using a secondary monitor
[03:50] <unix>  the gfx card is an intel 945gm
[03:50] <unix>  ive tried using the default xserver-xorg-video-i810 and it doesnt work or im not doing something right since its the second display
[03:50] <unix>  tive tried xserver-xorg-video-intel as well
[09:33] <jdwpom> .msg nicserv identify qazwsx
[09:36] <jdwpom> So, I know this is one of those 'retard' questions, but I was wondering if there's a long list of everything that starts up after usplash, anywhere on my machine?  Something's bringing it down, it's not the panel, window manager, desktop or a couple of other programs (firefox included) and I'm just going to go all trial-and-error, running each one off a terminal until I find what's causing...
[09:36] <jdwpom> ...the problem, see.  THEN I'll probably be back here asking what I can do about it.
[09:38] <jdwpom> don't make me pull the 'Linux is crap' card out, people.
[09:39] <TheSheep> jdwpom: but it is :)
[09:39] <jdwpom> It SO isn't, it just dislikes me.
[09:40] <TheSheep> jdwpom: did you look into the logs?
[09:40] <jdwpom> Quite frankly, until today, I've had about, gosh, thre weeks of uptime
[09:41] <TheSheep> /var/log/messages.0 should contain the last activity just before last reboot
[09:42] <jdwpom> That .xsession-errors you mentioned earlier didn't sem to say anything obvious to me.    Couldn't find Gonme-Do (I uninstalled it.  Big Whoop.  Hasn't caused issues before) then Segmentation fault.  I suspect that last one's the issue
[09:43] <TheSheep> jdwpom: what exactly happens?
[09:44] <jdwpom> Login, desktop background flashes up for a moment, no icons, then I'm booted back to a login screen.
[09:45] <jdwpom> My current plan involves starting everything one-by-one from a terminal, and seeing how far I can get.
[09:46] <TheSheep> what graphics card do you have?
[09:46] <jdwpom> *shrug*  Intel Onboard.  It's working fine at this very second, though.  Just when I try to do a normal boot, it screams at me
[09:47] <TheSheep> disabling compositor might help
[09:47] <jdwpom> Compositing's working fine, as we speak.
[09:47] <TheSheep> it's crashing X when some programs try something on some video drivers
[09:48] <TheSheep> (I know, very specific ;) )
[09:48] <jdwpom> (It happens)
[09:48] <TheSheep> video drivers and trouble with them seem to be the most common reason for X crashing in my experience
[09:49] <jdwpom> Coming out of failsaf terminal, I can happily start up:  nm-applet, firefox, a KDE-based Mud client, Panel, xfdesktop, xfwm, and anything I click off of the panel, so I can only assume it's some random service.
[09:50] <TheSheep> see autostarted applictions in settings
[09:51] <jdwpom> Righty, all unticked bar a network manager.  Will be back shortly with news
[09:58]  * jdwpom hugs The Sheep
[09:58] <jdwpom> Right, so we have a boot 'proper' boot.  Good news - not the network manager
[09:58] <jdwpom> And with only four options to go through to figure it out, this one'll be a doddle from here in.
[10:00] <jdwpom> So, between update notifier, power manager, Print Queue applet and checking for new hardware drivers, which do you think is the most likely culprit?
[10:02]  * jdwpom shrugs
[10:03] <jdwpom> I'll just play around.  Thanks anyhow.  Really means a lot.
[10:20] <FlyOnTheWall> considering this chan has over 60 people in it, it seems quite dead ;P
[10:21] <jdwpom> Ack.  Seems I'm back at square one, but with a couple of possible clues
[10:23] <jdwpom> .xerror shows: nm-applet:23268): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[10:23] <jdwpom> (xfwm4:23253): libxfcegui4-WARNING **: ICE I/O Error
[10:23] <jdwpom> (xfwm4:23253): libxfcegui4-WARNING **: Disconnected from session manager.
[10:23] <jdwpom> Segmentation fault
[10:24] <jdwpom> and prior to that
[10:24] <jdwpom> ** Message: another SSH agent is running at: /tmp/ssh-CSCSx23111/agent.23111
[10:24] <jdwpom> ** (nm-applet:23268): WARNING **: <WARN>  applet_dbus_manager_start_service(): Could not acquire the NetworkManagerUserSettings service as it is already taken.  Return: 3
[10:24] <jdwpom> (nm-applet:23268): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[10:26] <FlyOnTheWall> weird errors
[10:27] <FlyOnTheWall> "weird" as in "not something you'd expect from an out-of-the-box installation"
[10:28] <jdwpom> Can't think of anything major that I've done that would mess with startup.  I mean, there's a couple of extra installed programs here and there, but nothing that kicks in at boot.
[10:33] <FlyOnTheWall> I assume you've tried deleting any x chaches and such?
[10:33] <FlyOnTheWall> I mean,for the user that is about to log in
[10:35] <jdwpom> Yeah,. figured there might be something odd in a saved session.  No joy, until we hit on those autostarted apps.
[10:35] <jdwpom> That, and, well, now it seems to be happening well after loogin.  Kind of a plus, kind of a minus
[10:38] <FlyOnTheWall> iow, not directly good or bad; just different ;)
[10:39] <jdwpom> I call it an improvement that I don't have to jump through hoops just to boot :D
[10:40] <FlyOnTheWall> ah, so you can actually log in now?
[10:41] <jdwpom> Well, I could before.  It was the bits AFTER that that weren't working.  And now I seem to be in a state of 'might crash anytime'.
[10:42] <FlyOnTheWall> are you certain that's not a hardware issue?
[10:42] <FlyOnTheWall> like, a damaged PSU or faulty memory?
[10:43] <jdwpom> I'd love to think so, but I managed to rnu things from the terminal earlier, then left it up while I went to work.  Came back, still going.
[10:45] <FlyOnTheWall> I'd suggest running a memory check
[10:45] <FlyOnTheWall> just to be sure
[10:46] <jdwpom> Righty, on my way.  Back soonish
[12:09] <FlyOnTheWall> Does anybody know how to adjust the resolution in Xubuntu, when the appropriate resolutions aren't displayed in the list?
[12:11] <Valsum> Most likely, an appropiate driver for your gfx card is missing in that case.
[12:11] <FlyOnTheWall> well that's the thing, it's a thin client system
[12:11] <FlyOnTheWall> the only difference is the monitor
[12:12] <FlyOnTheWall> all other parts are identical, at least as far as two components of the same model can be identical
[12:12] <FlyOnTheWall> and it works on one, and not on the other
[12:21] <Valsum> FlyOnTheWall: no idea, sorry.
[12:28] <FlyOnTheWall> yeh, me neither ._.
[12:28] <FlyOnTheWall> was hoping there would be life on this channel to get this solved, I've tried so many things already it's getting frustrating banging my head against the wall
[12:29] <FlyOnTheWall> I'm starting to believe there's a bug in the Xubuntu LTSP that makes it ignore lts.conf
[12:29] <knome> !resolution
[12:30] <FlyOnTheWall> knome: thanks, but I somehow doubt those instructions apply to an LTSP setup
[12:30] <knome> suppose so. didn't read your previous messages, sorry
[12:30] <knome> i'm kind of going already
[12:31] <FlyOnTheWall> yeh, np, thanks for some input anyway ;)
[14:32] <ricky_> I've got a problem.     I loaded Xubantu 8.10 and the Grub. Noe I can't log in to my windows. Can anyone help me?
[14:38] <vidd> ricky_, what is the error you get when you hit "esc" and choose "windows"?
[14:38] <vidd> when you get the count-down to load grub?
[14:38] <ricky_> says NTLDR is missing.
[14:39] <vidd> vista?
[14:40] <ricky_> XP Pro
[14:40] <vidd> ok
[14:41] <vidd> im looking
[14:42] <ricky_> I tried the XP disk recovery and ran fixboot. didn't help.
[14:42] <vidd> did you add a second drive to the system and immediately install linux on that disk as a master...leaving windows installed on the original disk and change that drive to slave?
[14:43] <ricky_> yes linux is on its own seperate drive.
[14:43] <vidd> http://www.tinyempire.com/notes/ntldrismissing.htm
[14:43] <vidd> there ya go....
[14:44] <vidd> in the future, leave the windows drive as master
[14:44] <vidd> or....
[14:44] <ricky_> And no I didn't change it to slave.
[14:45] <vidd> did you boot windows after you added the second drive?
[14:45] <ricky_> The drive was already instaled on my computer but unformated.
[14:47] <ricky_> The drive I instaled linux on is a SATA drive and XP is installed on a IDE drive
[14:47] <vidd> so windows booted, saw the drive, recognized the drive, remapped the NTLDR to account for the new drive before you installed linux?
[14:47] <ricky_> yes
[14:47] <vidd> ok....follow the instuctions on the link i sent you....
[14:48] <vidd> you will probably need to get instructions on fixing grub afterwards
[14:49] <ricky_> what link?
[14:50] <vidd> http://www.tinyempire.com/notes/ntldrismissing.htm
[14:50] <vidd> its the only link posted since you enter the room =]
[14:52] <ricky_> Ok I'll cheak it out. Thanks for the info and I hope it works. I'll llet you now if it does.
[15:32] <karen|> can ext3 read ntfs at all, or would i need to make a partition fat32 in order for both windows and xubuntu to read it?
[15:41] <Valsum> I think it can read it.
[16:27] <karen|> anyone around :(?
[16:29] <Odd-rationale> no :P
[16:32] <Odd-rationale> xubuntu can read ntfs by default (ntfs-3g). windows can read ext2/3 if you install the correct drivers (http://www.fs-driver.org/). Both can read fat32 by default, but fat32 has some limitations such as a 4 gb size file limit... also, it fragments more than ntfs and ext3
[16:32] <Odd-rationale> karen|: ^
[16:33] <karen|> thank you :D
[16:33] <Odd-rationale> np
[16:33] <karen|> another question too actually
[16:33] <karen|> i got gparted so i can resize my xubuntu partition, but it doesnt want to let me do it
[16:34] <karen|> any idea why?
[16:34] <Odd-rationale> karen|: well, probably because it is mounted..
[16:34] <karen|> i am entirely new to most of this stuff so i dont know what that means
[16:34] <Odd-rationale> karen|: are you on xubuntu? you can't resize the partition if you are using it...
[16:34] <Odd-rationale> karen|: don't worry, we all started somewhere.. :)
[16:35] <karen|> so how can i resize it :(
[16:35] <Odd-rationale> karen|: well, do you have the livecd?
[16:35] <karen|> no
[16:36] <Odd-rationale> karen|: ok. well you can use the ubuntu or xubuntu livecd. and boot from the cd, so that your hard drive will not be used (or mounted).
[16:36] <karen|> hmm k
[16:36] <Odd-rationale> karen|: or, if you don't want to download the whole cd, you can download a disc that only has gparted on it: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[16:38] <Odd-rationale> karen|: also, puppylinux has gparted on it. it is only <100mb to download: http://puppylinux.org/downloads/official-releases/puppy-linux-412
[16:39] <karen|> can xubuntu burn the iso correctly?  cuz i dont have a windows program to do it right
[16:39] <Odd-rationale> karen|: yes. you should find brasero installed... at least on the latest version of xubuntu...
[16:41] <karen|> ah ha
[16:42] <slow-motion> hi
[16:42] <Odd-rationale> !hi | slow-motion
[16:43] <karen|> okay now after this burns, i can boot to the live-cd and edit the partition?
[16:43] <Odd-rationale> karen|: yes. i would also advise to backup any important data...
[16:43] <Odd-rationale> before resizing.
[16:44] <karen|> would it affect the windows partition too? because that's the only one with important stuff on it
[16:44] <Odd-rationale> karen|: if you are not resizing or moving the windows partition, then it should not.
[16:45] <Odd-rationale> (theoretically)
[16:46] <karen|> :3
[16:46] <karen|> thanks Odd, youve been a big help
[16:47] <Odd-rationale> np. i take you are dual booting... i hope you are enjoying xubuntu!
[16:47] <karen|> i am dual booting and i am enjoying learning xubuntu :)
[16:48] <karen|> now i shall go and attempt to shrink it though, because it really doesnt need 67gb...
[16:54] <yotux> anyone offer some help on getting a usb headset to work in xubuntu
[17:17] <romanov_> **Hello, please who knows anything about JabRef - Lyx pipe (lyxpipe file) ?
[17:44] <p3n1x> so i installed amarok but its saying it cannot play MP3's whats up?
[17:45] <p3n1x> where did i screw up the mp3 codecs lol
[17:45] <p3n1x> so suitable demux plugin. this often means the format is not supported is the error its spitting out
[17:47] <The-Kernel1> did you install ffmpeg?
[17:47] <p3n1x> probably not. ill check on installin that in a moment. that had mp3 codecs?
[17:48] <p3n1x> right now im installin virtualbox
[17:48] <p3n1x> so i can just goto add/remove and search ffmpeg and load it up
[17:49] <p3n1x> whats the sugested way to add programs for this dist? throu synaptic? add/remove? or i can just apt-get em too? all work but whats the prefered method for yall?
[17:54] <The-Kernel1> I like the command line
[17:55] <The-Kernel1> aptitude is the best imho
[17:56] <p3n1x> i like cmd line too :) i come from freebsd no gui world :)
[17:56] <The-Kernel1> ah]
[17:57] <The-Kernel1> yeah, sudo aptitude install ffmpeg
[17:57] <p3n1x> thanks for help, i must be goign, but i will be sure to idle here from now on
[17:57] <p3n1x> excellent. as soon as vbox is done doing its thang ill knock out ffmpeg
[17:58] <p3n1x> i guess what i like most about xubuntu is its so minimal! kinda like a freebsd base install. hardly any extras and just enough to do what is needed
[17:58] <p3n1x> if i want more, i put it there. its my system :)
[18:05] <p3n1x> ack, odd, i installed ffmpeg but its still saying no suitable demux plugin.
[18:07] <p3n1x> ack i see ffmpeg, and gstreamer extra, which shows mp3 there, lets give it a shot
[18:09] <p3n1x> ubuntu restricted extras seems to have it
[18:09] <p3n1x> nice
[18:10] <p3n1x> 30 min, ah smoke time, thanks again for help The-Kernel1
[18:27] <christian__> em hi
[18:28] <christian__> i have a little question, anyboidy help me???????
[18:28] <cody-somerville> ask the question
[18:28] <cody-somerville> and you'll find out :)
[18:29] <christian__> em i have xubuntu intrepid, and abiword is in its 2.6.4 version
[18:29] <christian__> i want to upgrade it to 2.6.5
[18:29] <christian__> thats it
[18:29] <christian__> think you can give me a hand?
[18:31] <cody-somerville> Sorry, Abiword 2.6.5 isn't packaged for Ubuntu yet
[18:31] <christian__> ah ok
[18:32] <christian__> it's just that some of my friends work in MS Office 2007
[18:32] <cody-somerville> However
[18:32] <cody-somerville> You can add a ppa and it'll install automatically for you
[18:32] <christian__> and sometimes the save files with the end x
[18:33] <cody-somerville> oh, it doesn't appear to be in the ppa yet
[18:33] <christian__> ok, im not in a hurry
[18:33] <christian__> im just asking, so the answer is that i should wait, right?
[18:33] <cody-somerville> yup
[18:33] <cody-somerville> or try Abiword.Org
[18:33] <cody-somerville> err...
[18:33] <cody-somerville> OpenOffice
[18:34] <christian__> em another little question, first Where are u from?
[18:35] <cody-somerville> Canad
[18:35] <cody-somerville> *Canada
[18:36] <christian__> ah ok, so i think in this case you cant help me
[18:36] <christian__> im colombian
[18:36] <christian__> ok thanks, you were pretty nice
[18:36] <cody-somerville> Feel free to hang out here :)
[18:37] <christian__> yeah, im new in GNU/Linux
[18:37] <christian__> and newer in Xubuntu
[18:38] <p3n1x> its great :) im liking it alot
[18:38] <christian__> i used Ubuntu for like 2 weeks but it was a bit SLOW
[18:38] <p3n1x> im from freebsd world though :)
[18:38] <p3n1x> ubuntu is slow! on my laptop it drags but xubuntu is faster
[18:38] <p3n1x> my main system however i just like it becAUse its minimal and fast :)
[18:39] <christian__> then i herad about Xubuntu, i installed it on my laptop, and it runs just like i wanted
[18:40] <christian__> the only thing i dont like is that Xubuntu is like a SON of Ubuntu , and it's difficult find exact information abput it
[18:40] <p3n1x> just reference ubuntu first, then debian 2nd
[18:40] <p3n1x> since its based of ubuntu, and ubuntu is debian based :)
[18:40] <p3n1x> its all *nix same general stuff and approach
[18:41] <christian__> yeah, but because im new in GNU/linux as i said (been using it for a little more than one month)
[18:41] <p3n1x> welcome to the world :)
[18:41] <Twile> I wish Xubuntu came in a UMPC (USB) distro like they made for Ubuntu (8.10)
[18:42] <p3n1x> does it not?
[18:42] <christian__> the changes from Windows to GNU/Linux are sometimes big
[18:42] <p3n1x> i mean it does right?
[18:42] <charlie-tca> p3n1x: no, there is no UMPC version yet
[18:43] <christian__> but when i get more experience, i will help new people like me
[18:43] <christian__> and espread the  word
[18:44] <p3n1x> yes yes :) spread the words!
[18:44] <Twile> Someone should attempt to build a UMPC ver.
[18:45] <p3n1x> also check out nubuntu :)
[18:45] <Twile> okay
[18:46] <christian__> jum ¬.¬
[18:46] <Twile> ooglay
[18:48] <christian__> p3ni1x and Twile, you guys are like software engineers or something related to software?
[18:48] <Twile> nope
[18:49] <Twile> im just a regular home user
[18:49] <Twile> I have a dual-boot system with ubuntu & XP
[18:49] <christian__> ah, im a civil engineering student, and a "regular home user"
[18:50] <p3n1x> network geek guy
[18:50] <christian__> and i have XP and Xubuntu on my laptop
[18:50] <Twile> cool cool
[18:50] <p3n1x> unemployed at the moment, got laid off from my last job. network security support
[18:50] <p3n1x> its hard times right now eh :)
[18:50] <Twile> I wanna save upp & get a macbook and use it to run OSX, XP, and Ubuntu  horrary for rEFIt
[18:51] <Twile> http://macapper.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134
[18:52] <p3n1x> nothing related to software/programming just like network/server admin security junk. its a mess of skills?
[18:52] <christian__> em i didnt understand a word
[18:53] <p3n1x> ok :)
[18:53] <sinbox> why a macbook, they're just intel based now, so you could get something very similar for a fraction of the price, unless you are a design freak
[18:55] <christian__> i have a compaq presario f500, it was a present 2 years ago, it came with GREAT windows vista installed (GREAT was not what i meant obut Vista), and it was SSSSSSOOOOOOOOOO slow, but i could install XP on it
[18:56] <christian__> then about 6 motnhs ago i found out about free software, and like one month ago i decided and i liked it
[19:05] <sinbox> nice, you could probably run osX on thast laptop you know ;-)
[19:07] <crazy2be> i'm having a weird problem
[19:08] <crazy2be> the xubuntu disk (latest version) gets to the selection screen
[19:08] <crazy2be> the first one, with "Try xubuntu qithout any changes to your computer"
[19:08] <crazy2be> etc
[19:09] <crazy2be> if i select any of the options (other than boot from first hard disk),
[19:09] <crazy2be> it comes up with a little mesagebox, and does nothing
[19:09] <sinbox> what does the message box say?
[19:10] <crazy2be> for the first option, it says "Boot Loader" as the title
[19:11] <crazy2be> and "/casper/vmlijuz" as the text
[19:11] <sinbox> nothing happens?  you tried the "check CD" option?
[19:11] <crazy2be> yes
[19:11] <crazy2be> i tried it
[19:11] <sinbox> and nothing?  could be a faulty CD
[19:12] <crazy2be> it says "check"
[19:12] <crazy2be> and the same title
[19:12] <crazy2be> "Test Memory" says "memtest"
[19:13] <crazy2be> it's the strangest thing ever :/
[19:14] <sinbox> how did you get the CD?  I reckon it's probably faulty
[19:14] <crazy2be> i downloaded it from one of the mirrors
[19:14] <crazy2be> and burned it with cdburnerxp
[19:15] <christian__> crazy2be did you try checking the cd for errors?
[19:16] <crazy2be> how?
[19:16] <crazy2be> i did the menu option, as i explained allready
[19:16] <crazy2be> and that doesn't do anything, just the messagebox
[19:17] <sinbox> probably a corrupted download then, or it got corrupted during the burning process
[19:17] <crazy2be> :/
[19:17] <crazy2be> it's quite bizzare
[19:17] <crazy2be> *sigh*
[19:17] <crazy2be> it took me 3 hours to download
[19:18] <crazy2be> so i don't really want to do it again :\
[19:18] <sinbox> are you on broadband? if so download it again and burn it again to be sure, I think there is a checksum to check it with somewhere as well so you can use that to make sure the download is ok
[19:18] <sinbox> then check the checksum
[19:18] <crazy2be> i'm on broadband
[19:18] <crazy2be> the servers i'm downloading it from aren't
[19:19] <crazy2be> it's like 20 KB/s
[19:19] <sinbox> well, if you have a bittorrent client you could use that, all the times I did that it came down at about 700kbps
[19:21] <crazy2be> ok
[19:21] <crazy2be> have a link?
[19:24] <crazy2be> (a bittorent one)
[19:24] <crazy2be> since there does not appear to be one on the website
[19:25] <sinbox> I can only find links for 8.04 for torrents, weird
[19:27] <sinbox> anyway I found the checksums for the CD if you want to try that first: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/intrepid/release/
[19:27] <sinbox> the bit torrent links are on that same page
[19:28] <sinbox> nicely hidden I'd say :)
[19:31] <crazy2be> yeah :P
[19:31] <crazy2be> i just found it now :P
[20:09] <crazy2be> much better!
[20:09] <crazy2be> 130KB/s
[20:54] <crazy2be> kk, all downloaded
[20:55] <crazy2be> i'll see if this one works
[21:14] <crazy2be> si i re-downloaded it
[21:14] <crazy2be> and re-burned it (to a different CD)
[21:14] <crazy2be> but it's still having the same problem
[21:15] <crazy2be> except now i selected the first option (the rest came up with the messageboxes)
[21:16] <crazy2be> and it's doing something, possibly
[21:17] <crazy2be> nothing i can see
[21:17] <crazy2be> but it's not letting me cahnge menu options anymore
[21:19] <sinbox> hmmm, not sure what to suggest here I'm afraid, have you asked in the main ubuntu channel as well and looked on the forum?
[21:27] <crazy2be> not yet
[21:27] <crazy2be> not sure what i would even look for on the fourms..
[22:15] <crazy2be> i just deceded to post a thread in the ubuntu fourms
[22:16] <crazy2be> the ubuntu IRC channel had no idea eather
[22:16] <crazy2be> :/
[22:37] <RandyboY> Anyone please help me with a problem... I have a laptop here which had xubuntu installed. Everything worked fine until an update. This is the owners word; the update said he had a similar program and he got the message "cant install, close and try again". he went through the list of updates and removed the program it wanted to download. the update icon disappeared and he was asked to reboot. rebooted and got into command line... how to ge
[22:38] <TheSheep> it got cut off on 'how to ge'
[22:38] <TheSheep> and what was that program?
[22:39] <RandyboY> ... rebooted and got into command line... how to get desktop back?
[22:39] <RandyboY> he dont remember
[22:39] <RandyboY> as we speak im trying apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[22:39] <RandyboY> its downloading
[23:01] <ballzee> i just added a new motherboard now i cant get my system toe anyone know why ? boot unless i use the disk to boot the sda driv