[00:37] <scientes_> do you really keep a long lint of BSD copyright licences for each person that translated a single line that ever went into a software package installed on your system?
[00:38] <scientes_> i guess with compression that isnt as bag but still---where is this file/files?
[00:56] <CarlFK> beuno: if the project hasn't... whats the long form?
[00:58] <wgrant> CarlFK: lp:~userorteam/project/branch
[00:59] <wgrant> On the page it says: "Get this branch:   bzr branch lp:~mdipierro/web2conf/devel"
[01:24] <CarlFK> wgrant: what page?  (i just searched for "branch" and "bzr' on a few pages
[01:27] <wgrant> CarlFK: The branch page. The one you linked to. https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mdipierro/web2conf/devel
[01:39] <CarlFK> oh that page :)
[09:57] <gnomefreak> on the advanced bug search from your LP page, is there a reeason why series-specific, Target milestone not a drop down or something?
[10:42] <PabeLS_> hi there, any kind soul to review the vcs-imports and the .pot file of the wader project? thanks :)
[13:29] <NCommander> Is Launchpad able to handle Qt translation files in addition to gettext?
[13:30] <kiko-afk> danilos, will know the answer to that, I think the answer is kinda
[13:31] <danilos> NCommander: you'd have to use KDE tools to convert files to PO first (i.e. they already do it for QT itself)
[13:31] <danilos> NCommander: Launchpad doesn't support them natively
[13:31] <NCommander> Ugh ....
[13:32]  * NCommander would think there would be a bug about that ...
[13:34] <danilos> NCommander: there is, it's not something we are planning on working on in the near future (existing tools should be sufficient, imo)
[13:34] <NCommander> I'll have to poke my KDE developer friend to explain how to do that magic
[13:35] <danilos> NCommander: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/68959
[13:35] <danilos> NCommander: translate-toolkit should also contain ts2po
[13:36] <NCommander> That doesn't solve anything, since that means for translations to be used, then I need to retrieve them from Launchpad, and then convert them back
[13:36] <NCommander> Kinda defeats the point of Rosetta, no?
[13:53] <Odd_Bloke> NCommander: Isn't the point of Rosetta to allow translators to translate easily?  So the developer having to do more work, while irritating, doesn't quite defeat the point of it.
[13:58] <NCommander> The problem is that langpacks are supposed to be updated rountinely, if I can only put my translations in the tarball, then only the latest versions of my package will have updated translations
[16:31] <persia> Any langpacks people about?  I've been thinking about some of the talk that came out of ArchiveReorganisation about collapsing the free components in Ubuntu, and wonder how that would affect translations.
[16:42] <cprov> persia: you can talk to danilo
[16:43] <cprov> persia: but I have the impression that we will be able to decide with translation will be included in the lang-packs per-seed basis as well
[16:45] <persia> cprov, So rather than having translations for "main", translations will happen for a given cell?
[16:46] <cprov> persia: they can happen for any given cell we want to, that's my impression.
[16:48] <persia> That works.  I just wanted to make sure that translations didn't get missed, as it wasn't brought up in the session, and I didn't see traffic about it since.
[16:48] <persia> Thanks for the confirmation.
[16:51] <cprov> persia: np, IIRC nobody mentioned it during the session, if you have time please make a note in the specification. This way we won't forget ;)
[16:51] <persia> I'll do that now.
[16:52] <cprov> persia: thanks
[17:42] <cr3> is there a way to remove old entries from my ppa?
[17:43] <cprov> cr3: you can delete published packages.
[17:43] <cprov> cr3: superseded versions are automatically removed.
[17:44] <cr3> cprov: superseded versions don't seem to be removed here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~hardware-testing/+archive
[17:44] <cprov> cr3: let me check
[17:44] <cr3> cprov: I'm not finding how to delete published packages
[17:44] <cprov> cr3: which package exactly ?
[17:45] <cr3> cprov: checkbox - 0.1-0ubuntu14 and checkbox - 0.1-0ubuntu15
[17:45] <cprov> cr3: they are published in different series.
[17:46] <cprov> cr3: the checkbox version in intrepid doesn't supersede the one in hardy.
[17:47] <cr3> cprov: interesting, so I need to do some cleanup then. can I delete some of these?
[17:47] <cprov> cr3:  there is a yellow-pencil link the upper-right corner of the package list, besided the 'Copy Package' one.
[17:47] <cr3> cprov: gotcha
[17:48] <cprov> cr3: yes, of course, go to the 'delete-packages' form and delete whatever you think you should.
[17:54] <pmjdebruijn> lo
[17:54] <pmjdebruijn> is this the place to ask questions about PPA?
[17:55] <pmjdebruijn> I upload a package which was broken, because of a missing .orig.tar.gz, so I requested a delete, next I uploaded the fixed package (~ppa2), but it seems it won't show up anymore...
[17:56] <pmjdebruijn> oh wait... it just took longer...
[17:56]  * pmjdebruijn crawls into a silent corner...
[17:57] <Ursinha> :)
[17:57] <cprov> pmjdebruijn: sorry, was afk
[17:57] <cprov> pmjdebruijn: yes, here :)
[17:57]  * beuno thinks cprov delays his responses intentionally so problems fix themselves
[17:58] <cprov> beuno: that's quite common, you know.
[17:58] <beuno> I do!
[17:58] <beuno> :)
[18:00] <pmjdebruijn> it's called rubber-ducking, ranting until you've solved your own problem... it has therapeutic value :)
[18:01] <CarlFK> is "blueprints" the place to document install instructions?
[18:02] <pmjdebruijn> install instructions for what?
[18:02] <CarlFK> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mdipierro/web2conf/devel
[18:02] <beuno> CarlFK, maybe in answers as a FAQ?
[18:02] <CarlFK> "the project"
[18:02] <beuno> we don't really have a place for for something like that
[18:02] <beuno> that's why we want wikis in Launchpad  :)
[18:03] <CarlFK> wow, still no wiki?
[18:03] <CarlFK> blueprint sounds like what I will use
[18:04] <CarlFK> or just ignore this for now
[18:11] <cr3> what's the difference between having serieses and releases for a project?
[18:11] <cprov> cr3: https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/SeriesMilestonesReleases
[18:12] <beuno> cr3, series contain releases
[18:12] <beuno> series are lines of developments
[18:12] <beuno> releases are actual releases, with files, etc
[18:13] <cr3> beuno: so "series" kinda maps to a major release and "release" to minor releases, right?
[18:13] <pmjdebruijn> hmm, the binary debs are not showing up for one of my PPA packages...
[18:13] <cr3> or maybe "series" maps to minor releases (0.1, 0.2, etc.) and "release" to bug fix releases (0.1.1, 0.1.2, etc.)
[18:14] <beuno> cr3, they're complimentary
[18:14] <beuno> you have a series
[18:14] <pmjdebruijn> https://launchpad.net/~pmjdebruijn/+archive?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published
[18:14] <beuno> which will contain X number of releases
[18:14] <beuno> they will be minor releases
[18:14] <beuno> until you do the final release
[18:14] <beuno> then, you will probably create a new series
[18:14] <cprov> pmjdebruijn: wait 6 minutes.
[18:15] <pmjdebruijn> cprov: heh ok... :)
[18:15] <beuno> cr3, so the series will be called "2.0", and you may have: 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, 2.4...
[18:15] <beuno> that's one one
[18:15] <pmjdebruijn> cprov: it all went faster with the other packages, but I'll wait some more :)
[18:15] <beuno> the other is:   series "2.0", and: 2.0beta1, 2.0beta2, 2.0rc1..... 2.0!
[18:15] <pmjdebruijn> how can I enabled my packages to be built for Hardy as well?
[18:16] <cprov> pmjdebruijn: ppa publication only happen at :00, :20 and :40. So, sometimes you can get lucky.
[18:17] <pmjdebruijn> cprov: ah... right
[18:17] <cprov> pmjdebruijn: you cannot rebuild the same source in the same repository, but you can copy source and binaries built in intrepid to hardy.
[18:18] <pmjdebruijn> right... I see
[18:18] <cprov> pmjdebruijn: usually the copy is safer the other way around (from the older suite to the new one), but it should be fine in your case too
[18:18] <pmjdebruijn> ok
[18:18] <cprov> pmjdebruijn: if you really need to rebuild the source, you have to upload a new version.
[18:20] <pmjdebruijn> huh?
[18:20] <pmjdebruijn> copying to source to hardy won't do?
[18:22] <cprov> pmjdebruijn: no, it won't, it would produce binaries with the same versions than the one you already have for intrepid.
[18:22] <cprov> pmjdebruijn: but they would have different contents.
[18:25] <pmjdebruijn> cprov: that's the point, right?
[18:26] <cprov> pmjdebruijn: no, two files with the same name can't be published in the repository
[18:28] <cprov> pmjdebruijn: binaries can be different because they were built with different dependencies, but also because they use gzip compression and it encodes a timestamp in the header.
[19:07] <LaserJock> can vcs-imports handle git?
[19:07] <cprov> LaserJock: no, not yet.
[19:08] <LaserJock> cprov: is that on the TODO list at all?
[19:08] <cprov> LaserJock: let me try to find the relevant bug/spec (anyway, you can ask the #bazaar guys for fresh info)
[19:09] <LaserJock> right
[19:11] <kiko-afk> it's on the todo list, yeah
[19:13] <cprov> LaserJock: check http://bazaar-vcs.org/BzrFastImport/FrontEnds, you can probably do the import locally if you are in hurry. But VCS support is not ready yet.
[19:15] <LaserJock> ok
[19:15] <LaserJock> I just have a upstream I work on possibly switching from SVN to git
[19:16] <LaserJock> and I'm used to being able to use bzr, but perhaps I'll have to just use git until LP can mirror it
[20:20] <stoecker> Hello
[20:22] <stoecker> Can someone tell me, how I can "keep the current translation" in launchpads translation for strings with "need review" state and remove this review state? The only solution I found is to replace the string and later revert that change.
[23:40] <owh> A user has reported a bug and claimed it is a security issue. This is not the case. How do I remove that status, or should the security team do that?
[23:45] <wgrant> owh: Click on the edit link in the privacy portlet.
[23:46] <owh> wgrant: Tah
[23:47] <owh> wgrant: That should be more discoverable - perhaps the "security issue" text underneath should link to the same place?
[23:49] <wgrant> Indeed. But then there's the problem of *adding* the security flag.
[23:49] <wgrant> beuno: ^^
[23:52] <owh> wgrant: Well, that's initially done with the tick box on creation. I missed the tool-tip that says: "change privacy/security", all I saw was two lines, one about privacy - as in, this is a public bug, and one about security - this is a security issue.
[23:53] <owh> wgrant: If the whole box was a button, it would be more obvious, saving HTML for an extra link.
[23:53] <owh> wgrant: It gets pretty ugly quick :)
[23:53] <owh> wgrant: What about just showing the two check boxes on the screen?
[23:54] <wgrant> Indeed. Maybe beuno has an idea.
[23:54] <ronny> hi
[23:54] <ronny> is there a way to set up a ppa on project-basis?
[23:54] <wgrant> ronny: No, but there should soon be a way to say that a PPA is the official one for a project.
[23:55] <ronny> ok
[23:55] <ronny> gmm
[23:55] <ronny> how do i actually get my fresh deb files into the ppa
[23:55] <owh> Gotta do some support at this end. My connection might drop out. BRB,
[23:56] <ronny> i just started to make debs for the development versions of the pida ide + its deps
[23:56] <wgrant> ronny: You upload sources, and Launchpad builds them into debs for you.
[23:57] <ronny> hmm
[23:57] <ronny> is there any howto for handling dayly/weekyl builds of development version
[23:57] <ronny> s
[23:58] <ronny> im new to the whole debian packaging process