[02:52] <_Zeus_> what happened to update-manager in jaunty?
[02:52] <_Zeus_> new name?
[02:53] <andersk> Still there, in the update-manager package.
[02:53] <charlie-tca> Shows as a source package in Jaunty
[02:54] <_Zeus_> oh
[08:19] <DanaG> Oh, lovely mud.
[08:20] <DanaG> s/mud/kernel panic/
[08:26] <DanaG> I think fglrx must just not play well with 2.6.28 kernel.
[08:30] <DanaG> Argh!  Damned ASIC hang.
[08:31] <DanaG> ... and it only happened AFTER I manually loaded snd-hda-intel, oddly enough.
[08:37] <DanaG> Er, it's not hda-intel doing it.
[09:05] <RAOF> Wooo!  Optimised mpeg4 AVC decoder for amd64 from fluendo.
[09:21] <DanaG> woot, defective gpu. =þ  -- at least, I'm pretty sure that's what my end issue truly is.
[09:21] <DanaG> Either that, or it's the motherboard.
[09:22] <DanaG> ... and I didn't pay the ~100 (I think) dollars for on-site service.  :(
[09:23] <DanaG> Oddly enough, the 32-bit Ubuntu isn't getting the ASIC hang as quickly as the 64-bit did.
[09:42] <Ienorand> How are the propr-video drivers faring in the latest daily? still no worky?
[09:42] <BUGabundo_work> guudddd morning everyone. and Merry x'tmas!
[09:43] <RAOF> Ienorand: Define 'propr' :)
[09:44] <Ienorand> proprietary, nvidia.
[09:45] <Ienorand> BUGabundo_work: Good Yule to you too!
[09:45]  * BUGabundo_work wonders what's an yule
[09:46] <Ienorand> BUGabundo_work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule
[09:47] <RAOF> Ienorand: Still no nvidia driver that works against Xserver 1.6, no.
[09:47] <BUGabundo_work> RAOF: its working well with the current Jaunty Xserver
[09:48] <RAOF> BUGabundo_work: As long as you tell it to ignore the ABI, and there seem to be reports of more frequent crashes with it.
[09:49] <Ienorand> Okays, and fix expectations should be for next alpha? beta?
[09:50] <BUGabundo_work> humm
[09:51] <BUGabundo_work> RAOF: UM still has a lot of X packages on queue!
[09:51] <BUGabundo_work> I'm trying not to install them... lol
[09:51] <BUGabundo_work> still have 1:7.4~ubuntu9
[09:51] <RAOF> Ienorand: Dunno.  Once again, entirely at the pleasure of nvidia.
[09:53] <RAOF> BUGabundo_work: Relavent package is xserver-xorg-core; 1.5.99.x will be breaking nvidia-glx :)
[09:55]  * BUGabundo_work checking
[09:55] <BUGabundo_work> 2:1.5.3-1ubuntu1
[09:56] <BUGabundo_work> candidate still holding back
[09:56]  * BUGabundo_work backups up current X debs...
[09:56] <RAOF> As it will until nvidia-glx supports the new video ABI :)
[09:56] <BUGabundo_work> RAOF: will UM upgrade it any way, when all depencies are built?
[09:58] <RAOF> BUGabundo_work: All the dependencies have been built for ages.  It's not installing for you because it conflicts with xserver-xorg-video-4 (the old ABI), which nvidia-glx provides.
[09:58]  * RAOF is using the new X server, with nouveau.
[09:58] <BUGabundo_work> yeah.. FWIR its been like this for almost 2 weeks
[09:59] <RAOF> That'd be about right.
[09:59] <BUGabundo_work> so I'm safe, until nvidia-glx upgrades the abi, or I force it to install
[09:59] <gnomefreak> closer to a week
[09:59] <BUGabundo_work> lossing Nvidia driver
[09:59] <BUGabundo_work> and using only nouveau
[09:59] <BUGabundo_work> okay... glad to know!
[10:00] <BUGabundo_work> I though it was still building something
[10:00] <BUGabundo_work> UM doesn't give that kind of details UNLESS an user selects to do a parcial upgrade
[10:00] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_work: buildfarm should i just cant remember link for it
[10:01]  * RAOF doesn't use UM.  aptitude FTW.
[10:02] <gnomefreak> seems build farm skipped Intrepid
[10:02] <gnomefreak> i see hardy and jaunty
[10:05] <BUGabundo_work> whats that?
[10:06] <gnomefreak> one sec
[10:06] <gnomefreak> https://launchpad.net/+builds
[10:07] <BUGabundo_work> ahh that I know!
[13:54] <BUGabundo_work> quick question: when one goes to a TTY is the sound supposed to stop playing?
[15:02] <monstermord> where can I report Kubuntu alpha 2 bugs?
[15:03] <BUGabundo_work> launchpad
[15:03] <BUGabundo_work> as with any bugs
[15:03] <BUGabundo_work> just mention it, and the package version
[15:03] <BUGabundo_work> apt-cache show PACKAGE and apt-cache policy PACKAGE are great tools
[15:04] <BUGabundo_work> toguether with apport-cli -f -p PACKAGE to automaticly collect all data about the package you are filing the bug
[15:04] <BUGabundo_work> monstermord: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[15:04] <monstermord> thanks
[15:05] <BUGabundo_work> no sudo require for any of this tool, ok monstermord?
[16:49] <mahfiaz> hi, I did 'pulseaudio -k' to kill the soundserver (latency recalculation makes output skippy), but now the alsa device is in use, i get "could not open audio device for playback"
[16:49] <mahfiaz> thanks in advance
[17:10] <BUGabundo_work> bom natal!!!
[18:13] <prahal_> I reverted to at-spi in ubuntu . Still have issue . Coud someone confirm that he has no freeze of around 15 seconds in rhythmbox when pressing one of the volume key (mute, volup or voldown) ? thanks a lot
[18:14] <prahal_> I put printf and gettimeofday in every critical point of the atk-bridge and nothing precise arise (it seems to loose time everywhere no real bottleneck)
[18:15] <prahal_> also it should happen with every application that use GrabMediaKeys from gnome settings daemon (most of the music one based on gnome)
[23:32] <burner> anyone know if it's possible to download drivers from nvidia.com that work with xorg-server 1.6?  or is it just a matter of no drivers anywhere yet?