[00:00] <Gnea> CntryTousrTrout: are you able to connect an audio cable from your front port to your LCD?
[00:00] <nexus23> is there a visual program like milkdrop for ncmpc?
[00:01] <CntryTousrTrout> gnea: no it dont have those small ports on my tv
[00:01] <onetinsoldier> has anyone here installed the creative X-Fi driver that was released and open-sourced in November?
[00:01] <Gnea> CntryTousrTrout: does it have RCA jacks?
[00:01] <CntryTousrTrout> gnea: thus why im hdmi lol.... there is a audio port yellow on back but lcd doesn't have that one either
[00:01] <tiyowan> Priswell: Ok. No problem. We need to do a little test now. "cp /home/ronnie/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf" then "startx", tell me what happens, please.
[00:02] <Gnea> CntryTousrTrout: ah okay... yellow would be video, actually... you'd want the red+white
[00:02] <CntryTousrTrout> gnea: tv yes, pc no, just one big yellow one that sorta looks like one its digital audio port
[00:02] <Gnea> CntryTousrTrout: ... okay
[00:02] <CntryTousrTrout> gnea: this is yellow dig. audio on pc, tv has all those compotent ports
[00:02] <Gnea> CntryTousrTrout: what tv is it?
[00:03] <CntryTousrTrout> panasonic vierra
[00:03] <wiildchild> hello i want to replace nautilus by thunar
[00:03] <wiildchild> in openbox session
[00:03] <Gnea> CntryTousrTrout: which one?
[00:04] <CntryTousrTrout> gnea: 32 inch
[00:04] <CntryTousrTrout> gnea; not plasma
[00:04] <Danu> Hello to all, someone knows how to convert rmvb to the vcd format?
[00:04] <Gnea> CntryTousrTrout: the TC-32LZ800 or TC-32LX85?
[00:05] <CntryTousrTrout> gnea: I dunno which one
[00:05] <Gnea> CntryTousrTrout: should say on the sticker on the back
[00:05] <CntryTousrTrout> gnea: i have to run store really fast.. I'll be back in a sec.. thx for help btw
[00:06] <krazyfingerz47> sup guys, my screen is shaking a little bit, like if the screen have too much refresh rate, in system/preferences/screenresolution it says its just 50hz... it doesnt looks like, how can i lower down a little bit?
[00:06] <Gnea> heh
[00:06] <wiildchild> I want to replace nautilus by thunar ?
[00:07] <Org-Mode> so whats stopping you wiildchild ?
[00:07] <dewente> I need ask question to some IT from Washington DC !
[00:07] <wiildchild> I have openbox session and i want only thunar by default and not nautilus
[00:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > dewente
[00:08] <wiildchild> and i don't know what i will change for this
[00:08] <bazhang> dewente, not here
[00:09] <onetinsoldier> krazyfingerz47: have you considered that most refresh rates are 60hz and maybe it's a little shaky because it actually needs to be bumped up to 60? i don't know really but i'm thinking that perhaps that might be the case
[00:09] <Danu> how to convert rmvb to vcd?
[00:10] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow: hey again
[00:10] <kerik> Mallen_: sorry...I had to reboot...
[00:10] <Jack_Sparrow> kerik hey
[00:10] <PurityOfEssence> Hi. I wish to know if anacron is in the default ubuntu install
[00:10] <krazyfingerz47> onetinsoldier: yes, i was thinking on that, but in the screenresolution manager the maximun its jsut 54hz, and in 54z the screen shakes like hell... so how can i put 60hz in refresh rate if i dont even see it on the manager?
[00:11] <bazhang> !info anacron
[00:11] <tiyowan> onetinsoldier: More xorg.conf fun, eh? ;)
[00:11] <bazhang> PurityOfEssence, no
[00:11] <PurityOfEssence> thanks bazhang and ubottu
[00:11] <onetinsoldier> tiyowan: ya, no doubt
[00:11] <Palomides> I have a keyboard issue: I cannot make the " or ' characters, and instead I have to hit the key twice, with the result of ´ or ¨
[00:11] <Palomides> what can I do?
[00:12] <Khisanth> hmm turn off deadkeys
[00:12] <theatrus> Palomides, perhaps your keyboard map is wrong, what type of keyboard is it?
[00:12] <onetinsoldier> krazyfingerz47: what kind of monitor do you have? could you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file so we can have a look at it?
[00:12] <AndreasMadrid> Anybody can help me getting mi microphone to work under linux???  please
[00:13] <Palomides> theatrus: just an ordinary PS2 keyboard, made by Dell, came with the computer
[00:14] <hischild> onetinsoldier,  , sudo apt-get install pastebinit && cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit (Please provide the link in the channel)
[00:14] <onetinsoldier> hischild: ya, i hear you
[00:14] <Priswell> tiyowan: No discernable change
[00:15] <hischild> onetinsoldier, create an auto replace for it. Saves you loads of typing and itchy fingers.
[00:15] <Org-Mode> 17:45 < anom01y> ActionParsnip: ok I did that it spat out a bunch of info
[00:15] <Org-Mode> 17:46 < onetinsoldier> lander2k2: you're welcome
[00:15] <theatrus> Palomides, odd, ok, check that the keyboard prefernces screen shows something sane
[00:15] <tiyowan> Priswell: Ok. Could you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, please?
[00:15] <kaiser10123> can the program to make startup from iso for usb be used make any linux livecd iso boot from usb?
[00:15] <Org-Mode> what file do i create aliases in? bashrc?
[00:16] <Jack_Sparrow> kaiser10123 no
[00:16] <Palomides> theatrus: it says USA International
[00:17] <Flannel> Org-Mode: bashrc will work, yes.  You can also do it in ~/.profile (profile sources bashrc)
[00:17] <Gnea> hischild: I bet he went out to buy a new pair of speakers :)
[00:17] <xquercus> Anyone know why the initrd.img from my kernel build is 52MB while the installed by the official 2.6.27-9-generic package is 8MB?  My initrd takes  a long time to boot...
[00:17] <hischild> Gnea, Hmmmmmm probably
[00:17] <Org-Mode> Flannel: ah ok ty, hmmm so i can just 'man bash' to learn alias'?
[00:17] <kaiser10123> Jack_Sparrow: so will it work with any ubuntu i download? like xubuntu or icebuntu?
[00:18] <Slugzzzz> Hey, I am having trouble mounting volumes (iPods, external hard drives... etc.) on the newest version of Ubuntu... and I was wondering if anyone could help.
[00:18] <hischild> kaiser10123, which program are you talking about?
[00:18] <Jack_Sparrow> kaiser10123 doubtful..
[00:18] <Flannel> Org-Mode: You can.  Your bashrc already has a few aliases in it, if you just want to use those as starting points
[00:18] <Org-Mode> oh nice, ty Flannel
[00:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !mint > kaiser10123
[00:18] <AndreasMadrid> Linux doesn't get my microphone working
[00:18] <theatrus> Palomides, hmm, try setting it to a non international us variant
[00:19] <theatrus> like the 104 key
[00:19] <onetinsoldier> Org-Mode: there's some examples in the .bashrc file already...  alias ll='ls -l'   ..means that you are making a new command, ll, which will do a long listing by default
[00:19] <Org-Mode> one last question Flannel after i make them do i have to restart?
[00:19] <Org-Mode> ok thx onetinsoldier
[00:19] <onetinsoldier> Org-Mode: ok, i see i was too slow
[00:19] <onetinsoldier> Org-Mode: yw
[00:20] <Palomides> theatrus: changed it to plain USA, but no luck
[00:20] <Flannel> Org-Mode: You need to log in again, or 'source ~/.bashrc' will get it without needing to log in again
[00:20] <kaiser10123> hischild: its under administrator  create a usb startup disk
[00:20] <Org-Mode> Flannel: ok ty
[00:20] <theatrus> Palomides, double check your accessibility settings?
[00:20] <rimp> how the fuck do you install a tarball
[00:20] <Org-Mode> O.o
[00:20] <hischild> !language | rimp
[00:20]  * JulioNeto :p
[00:21] <Palomides> theatrus: what should I be looking for?
[00:21] <theatrus> Palomides, deadkeys, or any other keyboard based things
[00:21] <Slugzzzz> Does anyone know about a "DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error" when trying to mount volumes?
[00:21] <onetinsoldier> rimp: you unpack it with either, a gui such a file-roller, or with the 'tar' command first
[00:22] <Priswell> tiyowan: It is empty again! I know I copied it properly.
[00:22] <kaiser10123> rimp: whar are you trying to install
[00:22] <onetinsoldier> rimp: whats' the filename?
[00:22] <PriceChild> rimp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[00:22] <Palomides> theatrus: I do not see anything
[00:23] <troythetechguy> I'm considering installing the 64bit version of Ubuntu.  When I looked into this awhile back, there were some programs that would not run under the 64 bit version.  Is this still an issue?
[00:23] <rimp> i've looked AT THAT IT DOESN'T HELP
[00:23] <bazhang> caps rimp
[00:23] <Gnea> rimp: please calm down.
[00:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !caps
[00:23] <kaiser10123> rimp: what are you installing
[00:23] <maldito> ccsm help
[00:23] <Slugzzzz> lol... I'll wait my turn...
[00:23] <rimp> c++robots
[00:24] <maldito> ccsm help any one?
[00:24] <rimp> its on my desktop
[00:24] <Org-Mode> Flannel: im going to assume so that i may use alias' on all my accounts to edit /etc/bash.bashrc ?
[00:24] <theatrus> troythetechguy, there isn't much that won't run
[00:25] <maldito> #compiz-fusion
[00:25] <theatrus> troythetechguy, flash is available now (in beta), same with java plugins
[00:25] <Swiateckix> Hi, can anyone spot the error http://www.swiatechs.com/dmesg2.txt , 8.10, ACPI disabled
[00:25] <theatrus> troythetechguy, and 32 bit binaries will run just fine provided you installed ia32-libs
[00:25] <onetinsoldier> Org-Mode: for all accounts you'll want to put them into /etc/profile
[00:26] <Org-Mode> ah gotcha thanks
[00:26] <Org-Mode> theres three bash files, so it kinda confused me :)
[00:26] <Org-Mode> 4 actually
[00:26] <bazhang> !give bazhang a test
[00:26] <osxdude_> What is the terminal based alsa-mixer?
[00:28] <Daniel_NL> hi
[00:28] <Slugzzzz> Would someone mind helping me out?
[00:28] <onetinsoldier> Org-Mode: ya, its a little confusing to me too, but i guess that's the right file to do it in.
[00:28] <Priswell> Slugzzzz: ask you question. It's considered not polite to ask if you can ask.
[00:28] <wiildchild> if anybody know how i can use thunar instead of mautilus in openbox
[00:29] <tiyowan> Priswell: Ok. Could you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, please?
[00:29] <Slugzzzz> I keep getting this error when trying to mount a drive: DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error
[00:29] <rimp> just send me a pm of a step by step of how to install a basic tarball file please. i,m new to the whole linux deal and i cant figure it out
[00:29] <Priswell> tiyowan: It's blank - empty.
[00:30] <Slugzzzz> I also cannot mount iPods.
[00:30] <adaykin> hey I've been having problems with my sound, I tried going through the troubleshooting page, but nothing worked https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[00:30] <Slugzzzz> :-(
[00:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !ipod
[00:30] <onetinsoldier> rimp: it might be easier to just do it step by step. you want to unpack it with file-roller or with the tar command?
[00:31] <tiyowan> Priswell: Try running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from the terminal?
[00:32] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow: hey again
[00:32] <Slugzzzz> No ideas?
[00:33] <rimp> ontinsoldier:i already unpacked it and all the source codes are in a file
[00:33] <Slugzzzz> I keep getting "DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."
[00:33] <bazhang> kerik, do you have a support question?
[00:33] <onetinsoldier> rimp ok, you mean in a directory, of course
[00:33] <exodus_ms> Slugzzzz, wow, you waited a whole three minutes..
[00:33] <exodus_ms> !repeat | Slugzzzz
[00:33] <kerik> bazhang: yeah...but Jack_Sparrow was just helping me...we were kinda in the middle of something ;)
[00:34] <rimp> in a directory in a file
[00:34] <onetinsoldier> rimp: go into that directory. you should probably read the README file and the INSTALL file.
[00:34] <vermont> how do I view a list of my devices in terminal?
[00:34] <exodus_ms> lspci
[00:34] <onetinsoldier> rimp: in that directory is a 'configure' file?
[00:36] <rimp> pm me
[00:36] <Priswell> tiyowan: Use framebuffer device interface?
[00:36] <vermont> I mean, how do I view my sound card/video card etc. in terminal...what's the command.
[00:36] <tiyowan> Priswell: Select the default.
[00:37] <adaykin> how do I find out what my sound driver is???
[00:37] <exodus_ms> lspci
[00:37] <tiyowan> vermont: lspci
[00:37] <vermont> thanks
[00:38] <vermont> how can I update drivers for my sound card?
[00:38] <exodus_ms> !sound
[00:39] <rivitingone> How can I scan my hard drive for errors or detect a corrupted file system using the install cd?
[00:39] <yellowside> im using xchat gnome irc.. how  do i write a script ???
[00:39] <adaykin> does anyone know how to tell what my sound driver is?
[00:40] <exodus_ms> yellowside, --> http://www.linuxcommand.org/writing_shell_scripts.php
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> yellowside see also sudo apt-get install abs-guide
[00:41] <Priswell> tiyowan: There was a series of questions about keyboard layouts and so forth. I've reached a dialog box named 'configuring xserver-xorg' and it will not tab to OK. There's a warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[00:41] <Arrick> can someone tell me how to turn off the power saving feature (in windows it would be "allow * to turn off this device to conserve power") ?
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Priswell yes to accept..
[00:42] <Priswell> It won't tab to the OK, can't page up, or down, just beeps.
[00:42] <yellowside> exodus_ms & jack_sparrow      thanks :D
[00:43] <exodus_ms> yellowside, np
[00:43] <tiyowan> Priswell: Nothing works? Enter?
[00:43] <olifre> Ubuntu 8.10, just accessed my ntfs-drive as usual (ntfs-3g) and since now, encountering "Operation unsupported" with every write-operation!
[00:43] <olifre> Any ideas?
[00:44] <DasEi> olifre:tried access as root ?
[00:44] <Priswell> tiyowan: No. There's an empty dotted line in the last dialog box labeled "Keyboard Options", but I left it blank, (default) and it will not tab to OK
[00:44] <rivitingone> Is there a terminal command that will scan my filesystem for errors?
[00:44] <lmiller> Greetings
[00:44] <Taladan> olifre: pull 'mount' and see if it's mounted rw
[00:44] <Jack_Sparrow> olifre sounds like it was locked as read only by an unclean unmount
[00:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !fsck
[00:44] <olifre> DasEi: Of cours, also tried ntfsfix.
[00:44] <adaykin> how do I find out what my sound manufacturer is?
[00:44] <adaykin> sound card*
[00:44] <Priswell> tiyowan: "Enter" just beeps.
[00:45] <sychris> hello all i am using ver 8.04 lts and i am having problems installing xfce as the desktop enviro im not new to linux in general but  i am new to this dstro the doc pages say to go to add/remove apps and search for xubuntu-desktop however i could not locate it also looked for xfce and found apps for it but not the desktop gui
[00:45] <georgy_28> adaykin, : lspci
[00:45] <DasEi>  adaykin:lshw,lspci
[00:45] <olifre> Taladan: its mounted rw
[00:45] <yellowside> exodus_ms   -- thats not irc scripts ?
[00:45] <mrwes> sychris: is there a package manager?
[00:45] <DasEi> olifre:does gparted show anything special ?
[00:45] <sychris> yes
[00:45] <DasEi> does*
[00:45] <Taladan> olifre: in that case, and if you're trying to write to it as root, I'd try to unmount it and remount it
[00:46] <sychris> but i cant find it in there
[00:46] <lmiller> I just upgraded to intrepid and now I need to hit the quotation mark key twice to get a quote mark (same for the apostrophes). Whatś happened???
[00:46] <DarkWaterSyntax> how do I go about installing G++?
[00:46] <mrwes> sychris: maybe it's in synaptic manager -- not sure with xfce
[00:46] <lmiller> And it just put an dash over my s
[00:46] <DarkWaterSyntax> I know its somewhere on the system
[00:46] <olifre> DasEi: Nothing, happened in the midst of a copy operation, now this problem is there for all operations. Tried mouinting several times.
[00:46] <Taladan> lmiller: sounds like you set your keyboard settings wrong
[00:46] <sychris> yes but i dont have xfce installed riight now im trying to get it installes
[00:47] <dtolj> whats the best way to network 2 linux machines?
[00:47] <Priswell> dtolj: with a router
[00:47] <dtolj> yes
[00:47] <AbstortedMinds1> could anyone point me to a site or vendor that either 1) sells performance linux ready machines or 2) shows the best parts to build one
[00:47] <Taladan> heh
[00:47] <lmiller> Taladan: I didn change anything
[00:47] <DasEi> olifre:sth to be found in /var/log/syslog ?
[00:48] <olifre> DasEi: Nothing.
[00:48] <Taladan> AbstortedMinds1: system76.com
[00:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[00:48] <olifre> DasEi: Maybe its this error?
[00:48] <olifre> http://www.ntfs-3g.org/support.html#filecreate
[00:48] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow: hey
[00:48] <exodus_ms> yellowside, thought you wanted to know how to write scripts. You can also search for a python link for beginners and write your own for your chat client
[00:48] <dtolj> Priswell: does smb work? or is that between linux and windows only
[00:48] <AbstortedMinds1> Taladan, thanks, http://system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=82
[00:48] <Jack_Sparrow> hey
[00:48] <mrwes> sychris: ahhh...yah you need to go to System | Admin | Synaptic Manager
[00:48] <Taladan> lmiller: I'm a kde user so I don't know where it is in gnome, but I'd check the keyboard setup and make sure that it's set to your desired setting.
[00:48] <mrwes> sychris: add/remove is just for the basic apps
[00:49] <matkix>  Dose anyone here have experience with setting up Xen in UB Server? Would you say that UB is a good choice for install Xen or as being the host os?
[00:49] <sychris> mrwes: ty vm
[00:49] <Priswell> dtolj: If you have a router, 2 patch cables, Ubuntu will automatically recognize them if you get the hard ware set up correctly
[00:49] <mrwes> sychris: uh?
[00:50] <sychris> thank you very much :)
[00:50] <DasEi> olifre:you can still read it ? oc course disk / trash isn't full ?
[00:50] <mrwes> sychris: oh...sure :)
[00:50] <yellowside> dont know where to start :S im  new on ubuntu
[00:50] <olifre> DasEi: Yes, reading possible, 10 GB left on it.
[00:50] <georgy_28> dtolj, : to share 2 linux box you have to use nfs
[00:50] <dtolj> Priswell: one is ubuntu and the other fedora9, they are both connected to my router with a network cable
[00:50] <olifre> DasEi: Might it be the error described under that link?
[00:51] <mrwes> dtolj: or use ssh or sshfs
[00:51] <DasEi> olifre:I have no clue, what about accessing from live, if so reinstall ntfs-support
[00:51] <Anacranom> i have 3 boxes here, 2 desktops and 1 laptop, each happens to have nvidia chipsets, the desktops have an 8600gt and a 7300GS, the lappy has a 6100GO, all work right out of the box with 8.04, whether i upgrade or fresh install 8.10- nothing works, even editing the xorg.conf, what is whrong?
[00:51] <Nillerz> how do I access files on a linux machine from Windows?
[00:51] <olifre> DasEi: Other NTFS-Drives still work....
[00:51] <exodus_ms> !samba
[00:52] <mrwes> b00m....that's a good b0t
[00:52] <mrwes> Nillerz: you could also use ssh and PuTTY in windows
[00:52] <wiildchild> if anybody use openbox can you contact me in MP pleaze
[00:53] <hikenboot> hello all I enabled compiz now my menu bar disappeared  anyone know how to fix
[00:53] <DasEi> olifre:Is there a possibility to check the fs from windows ?
[00:54] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo mkdir /media/locked-drive then sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/locked-drive -o force  substitute your locked drive for sda1
[00:54] <hikenboot> I added a couple lines to the /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it didnt help
[00:55] <Wicked> if i install kubuntu8.04(not lts) and then install gnome-desktop and remove all of kde(!puregnome) will this become 8.04 LTS?
[00:55] <woody86> can anyone help me out? I installed FAH on my laptop, and now my desktop cannot connect to my wireless network?
[00:55] <AbstortedMinds1> If I build a hi-perm desktop, how difficult is it, and how effective is it, to get water cooling setup, considering I live in hawaii and its 82degrees F year round (no a/c)
[00:55] <Jack_Sparrow> hikenboot from terminal...   compiz --replace
[00:56] <hikenboot> it hangs doesnt finish
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> AbstortedMinds1 try asking in the offtopic room.  This is specifically support questions
[00:56] <AbstortedMinds1> ok
[00:56] <YamiFrankc> Anyone know a alternative to AWN?}
[00:56] <hikenboot> it says /usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format then it hangs
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> YamiFrankc cairo-dock
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> YamiFrankc not a replacement, but I like the osx type menu
[00:57] <DarkWaterSyntax> how do i install G++ on 8.10?
[00:57] <dtolj> YamiFrankc: you mean proprietary alternative?
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> woody86 what is FAH
[00:58] <dtolj> DarkWaterSyntax: easy
[00:58] <chadeldridge> can someone please tell me what the default chmod level for their ~ is?
[00:58] <woody86> Jack_Sparrow, folding at home https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FoldingAtHome
[00:58] <DarkWaterSyntax> dtolj: I thought it would lol
[00:58] <dtolj> chadeldridge: 777
[00:59] <zsquareplusc> DarkWaterSyntax: you probably want  build-essential
[00:59] <DarkWaterSyntax> dtolj:  "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[00:59] <chadeldridge> dtolj, doesnt that give all users full though ?  i only want my user to have full
[00:59] <dtolj> DarkWaterSyntax: well that gives you more than you need
[00:59] <Wicked> 777  is everyone. if u want your home folder to only be seen/read/write to by u do 700
[00:59] <mrwes> dtolj: isn't user home 755?
[00:59] <dtolj> chadeldridge: then try 770
[00:59] <DarkWaterSyntax> zsquareplusc: dtolj I did that command and it went through downloading them but I can't figure out how to run them
[01:00] <mrwes> drwxr-xr-x 75 bill bill  4096 2008-12-22 19:41 bill
[01:00] <mrwes> chadeldridge: that's 755
[01:00] <zsquareplusc> DarkWaterSyntax: most source packages ahve a configure/make.  but g++ alone should start the C++ compiler
[01:00] <chadeldridge> so 700 then ? or 755 ?  i only want my user to access the folder everyone else no read or anything
[01:01] <georgy_28> chadeldridge, : 755
[01:01] <dtolj> DarkWaterSyntax: what do you want to run?
[01:01] <chadeldridge> ok .. thanks all :-D
[01:01] <mrwes> np
[01:01] <DarkWaterSyntax> dtolj: g++
[01:01] <dtolj> DarkWaterSyntax: gcc
[01:01] <Anacranom> i have 3 boxes here, 2 desktops and 1 laptop, each happens to have nvidia chipsets, the desktops have an 8600gt and a 7300GS, the lappy has a 6100GO, all work right out of the box with 8.04, whether i upgrade or fresh install 8.10- nothing works, even editing the xorg.conf, what is wrong?
[01:01] <DarkWaterSyntax> zsquareplusc: "g++: no input files " is what i get
[01:02] <dtolj> DarkWaterSyntax: you need the src file
[01:02] <zsquareplusc> DarkWaterSyntax: yes. so you have a compiler, now feed it some files ;-)
[01:02] <DarkWaterSyntax> zsquareplusc: ok so its not an IDE?
[01:02] <zsquareplusc> no
[01:03] <DarkWaterSyntax> zsquareplusc: ok thanks
[01:03] <zsquareplusc> DarkWaterSyntax: ide? is that the bloat that makes you developing slower? ;-)   try eclipse for a good IDE
[01:04] <DarkWaterSyntax> zsquareplusc: ok thanks, I'm just learning C++ at the moment abnd heard G++ was really good so I thought I'd give it a try, I just create something in notepad?
[01:04] <Administrator> hello all
[01:05] <Mallen_> hi
[01:05] <zsquareplusc> DarkWaterSyntax: notepad? you mean gedit. use some editor with source highlighting
[01:05] <mrwes> notepad....I just realized what he said..hehe
[01:05] <DarkWaterSyntax> I mean proprietary
[01:05] <Administrator> i am new to linux and just installed ubuntu 8.1 on my laptop, but i am having problems with my resolution.  I cant adjust it to more than 800x600 and my laptop is capable of up to 1600x900
[01:05] <DarkWaterSyntax> nvm
[01:05] <Administrator> can someone help me with this?
[01:06] <heha> hi, I am trying to install ubuntu on my ibm x60
[01:06] <DasEi> !resolution
[01:06] <Mallen_> *sigh I can
[01:06] <georgy_28> !xorg
[01:06] <energY_> I need to do some hex editing
[01:06] <energY_> On an executable
[01:06] <energY_> How?
[01:06] <zsquareplusc> DarkWaterSyntax: well if you prefer an IDE, eclipse is a good choice. it has a the CDT plugin  (for C/C++) and it has wizards that can create "empty" programs. and it has the debugger integrated too (frontend to gdb)
[01:06] <Mallen_> most of the time they dont even have the GFX card drivers installed
[01:06] <heha> can I install ubuntu 8.10 64 bit on an ibm x60?
[01:06] <Tommy3> what is the sound applet for current ubuntu. my icon disappeared. need to adjust volume.
[01:07] <heha> I have tried to download the 64 bit version,but can only see the one for amd
[01:07] <zsquareplusc> heha: i will also run on core2 intels
[01:07] <dtolj> zsquareplusc: is it a gui frontend to gdb?
[01:08] <zsquareplusc> dtolj: yes, the CDT plugin has a source level debugger frontend for gdb.
[01:08] <AndreasMadrid> Can anyone help me to get the microphone work under ubuntu?
[01:08] <Tommy3> looking for some way to get the volume sliders up on the screen. my icon is gone
[01:08] <DarkWaterSyntax> zsquareplusc: I'll try that then
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> Tommy3: open a terminal and type "alsamixer" and it will let you adjust your sound, but i'm nto sure how your icon is gone...
[01:08] <heha> zsquareplusc: I installed ubuntu on a usb...but when I boot from the usb I get a message saying that the kernel version is wrong
[01:08] <heha> zsquareplusc: and it wont boot
[01:09] <Tommy3> thanks, was in a panic trying to talk to someone....
[01:09] <lord_hypnos> hi
[01:09] <zsquareplusc> heha: do you know the exact message? how did you prepare that USB stick? (with a tool or manually?)
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> Tommy3: but you should be able to put the sound applet back on your panel... just right click the panel, add to panel, and add "Volume COntrol".
[01:10] <Amun> has anyone made a code_swarm of ubuntu yet ?
[01:10] <energY_> Is there a hex editor for ubuntu?
[01:10] <Anacranom> IndyGunFreak, Jack_Sparrow ,  i have 3 boxes here, 2 desktops and 1 laptop, each happens to have nvidia chipsets, the desktops have an 8600gt and a 7300GS, the lappy has a 6100GO, all work right out of the box with 8.04, whether i upgrade or fresh install 8.10- nothing works, even editing the xorg.conf, what is wrong?
[01:10] <zsquareplusc> energY_: there are a few in the repositories
[01:11] <energY_> zsquareplusc: name one
[01:11] <IndyGunFreak> woops
[01:11] <heha> zsquareplusc: I can not recall the exact message...it has something like this kernel support x86 machine, but you should run a kernel that support 686 machines...I have used uunetbootin-linux-304
[01:11] <zsquareplusc> !find hex edit
[01:11] <zsquareplusc> !find hexeditor
[01:11] <Tommy3> IndyGunFreak: Thank you so much.  that did it.
[01:11] <IndyGunFreak> np
[01:11] <QinGW> How to copy text from firefox to terminal?
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> QinGW shift ctrl v
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> QinGW: uh, highlight, right click, copy, then right click, paste, in a terminal?
[01:12] <zsquareplusc> QinGW: select and then middle click in the terminal
[01:12] <bexamous> QinGW: Highlight and middle mouse button to paste
[01:12] <georgy_28> QinGW, : select, then middle-click
[01:12] <hikenboot> hello back again machine hung. did sudo compiz --replace & and sudo emerald --replace &  still same problem with title bars being missing
[01:12] <lfaraone> Hey, I'm looking for a lightweight CMS, any recommendations? ( Something that would look a bit like http://luke.faraone.cc/ )
[01:12] <carandraug> QinGW: you select the text, and then in the terminal press the mouse middle button (or the right and left button at the same time)
[01:14] <QinGW> Thanks all. I don't know why Ctrl-shit-v doen't work.but midbutton is ok.:)
[01:14] <heha> zsquareplusc: the 64 bit iso image name is : ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64...would it work?
[01:15] <QinGW> Where can I get source.list for installing acroread?
[01:15] <zsquareplusc> heha: i don't know what exact cpu type you have. are you already running linux on it? cat /proc/cpuinfo and find a "lm" flag, then it's 64 bits
[01:16] <thebloggu> ikonia, you there ?
[01:16] <carandraug> QinGW: source.list is a file with the repos to download packages. It's in /etc/apt/source.list
[01:16] <zsquareplusc> QinGW: medibuntu.org?
[01:16] <QinGW> zsquareplusc: Thanks.:)
[01:16] <georgy_28> QinGW, :add to your sources.list deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ hardy of intrepide free non-free
[01:17] <heha> zsquareplusc: Ok, the message says: This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 cpu. unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your cpu
[01:18] <QinGW> carandraug: yes, but somes package can't be included in my offical source.list under my 8.10.
[01:18] <QinGW> georgy_28: Thanks, I will try.
[01:18] <zsquareplusc> heha: ah, so it seems it isn't a 64 bit CPU. use the standard 32 bit edition then
[01:18] <georgy_28> QinGW, : deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ intrepide free non-free
[01:18] <heha> zsquareplusc: http://pastebin.com/d5b909e50
[01:19] <ghindo> \/quit
[01:19] <MatthiasM> hi, I have issues with the keyboard layout in 8.10 - I have a german keybaord and selected "generic 105 (intl) PC" with german layout - but the login screen and some apps have english layout - but I deselect "seperate layout for each window"
[01:20] <ghindo> /quti
[01:20] <QinGW> georgy_28: I found "sudo aptitude install preload", but I don't know if it is a good feature. I often use emacs,firefox.
[01:20] <ghindo> /quit
[01:20] <georgy_28> QinGW, : to get the gpg key sudo wget -q http://fr.packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | apt-key add - ;
[01:20] <heha> zsquareplusc: sorry for troubling you again, but where in this link does it show that http://pastebin.com/d5b909e50
[01:21] <unr3a1> hey all
[01:21] <meekatron> hello trying to connect via ssh through external ip but it says remote identification has changed and gives me a fingerprint key,, how do i add this
[01:21] <heha> zsquareplusc: my machine has dual core centrino...does that mean that it is a 64 bit?
[01:22] <dtolj> this is a cool clock xdaliclock
[01:22] <Zelda> hello everyone.
[01:22] <georgy_28> QinGW, : sudo echo "deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ intrepide free non-free"  >> /etc/apt/sources.list , then get the gpg key, then apt-get update and apt-get install acroread
[01:22] <shader42> does anyone here know what could be causing my attempt to mount a windows share via samba to time out?
[01:22] <Zelda> Can I downgrade this version of linux without having to reinstall everything?
[01:22] <zsquareplusc> heha: the message you quoted previously indcates that the kernel can't detect a 64 bit mode. but yea a T2400 seems to be a core duo but it is not a core2 duo
[01:23] <Mitsenear> I just installed Ubuntu 8.10 from the Mini.iso file (network install) and everything seemed to install fine; however, now that I've reached the login page, my monitor only displays that I need to set my screen res. to 1680 x 1050 @60Hz or lower. What do I do to lower my res. w/out a GUI?
[01:23] <cody_> meekatron: it sounds like the ssh key has changed on the machine your connecting to
[01:23] <Zelda> Mitsenear: join the group. Im having the same issues and noone knows anything.
[01:23] <Zelda> I tried to ask yesterday and noone helped.
[01:24] <Mitsenear> Hm.
[01:24] <Zelda> something is wrong with xserver.
[01:24] <cody_> Zelda: even if they allowed it, I wouldn't try it
[01:24] <Zelda> have you tried to reconfigure it?
[01:24] <solexious> Any one know a program to design gtk gui's? But like a wisywig
[01:24] <Mitsenear> I don't know how, I'm fairly new with this.
[01:24] <rjune> solexious: glade comes to mind
[01:25] <troythetechguy> theatrus: Thanks for the info on 64 vs 32 bit.
[01:25] <rjune> but that might bot be it
[01:25] <Zelda> ok hang on. let me get you the command.
[01:25] <Zelda> ./sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:25] <zsquareplusc> solexious: http://glade.gnome.org/
[01:25] <Zelda> type that in terminal.
[01:25] <Zelda> - the ./
[01:26] <Mitsenear> I need to get to a terminal, though.
[01:26] <Zelda> you dont have gui?
[01:26] <Mitsenear> Nope.
[01:26] <Zelda> well you can still do that from the command line.
[01:26] <zsquareplusc> Mitsenear: ctrl+alt+F1 gives you a text console?
[01:27] <Zelda> yeah.
[01:27] <Zelda> ^ that
[01:27] <Mitsenear> Yep, ok, gonna try typing that in.
[01:27] <Zelda> ok
[01:27] <meekatron> cody_: how do i add the correct host key so i can connect
[01:27] <docmur> any one here know a good tool for downloading from rapid share, I want to Q a ton of files and just leave it running
[01:27] <cody_> meekatron: the file will be in .ssh/known_hosts
[01:28] <cody_> meekatron: I'm not exactly sure how to tell which key belongs to which server. If your not worried about the keys changing in any of the ssh servers you connect to, you can remove that file and it will get new keys next time you connect
[01:28] <Zelda> anyone know why my xorg.conf isnt recognizing any of my hardware? I tried to reconfigure X a few times.. nothing seems to work
[01:28] <heha> zsquareplusc: thanks a lot for your help and ur small lecture...I have learnt  a good this from this
[01:29] <shader42> anyone here know how to mount a windows share via samba?
[01:29] <Zelda> Mit: that working?
[01:29] <AndreasMadrid> Can anyone help me to get the microphone work under ubuntu?
[01:29] <zsquareplusc> Zelda: 8.10 uses HAL for a lot of autodetection so xorg can even be empty.
[01:29] <solexious> Thanks both
[01:29] <Mitsenear> Zelda: Well, it functions, but it doesn't fix my problem.
[01:29] <Zelda> well its not auto detecting my screen nor hardware.. so im stuff on 1024.768
[01:30] <Zelda> hrm.
[01:30] <Zelda> er hm
[01:30] <buntoaster> how do enable visual efects
[01:30] <Zelda> you have a live cd?
[01:30] <zsquareplusc> Zelda: you have a recent monitor with DCC and a cable with the wires for that function?
[01:30] <Zelda> zsq: I have an older VGA CRT.
[01:31] <SSilver2k> lo all.  is there a crontab log?
[01:31] <SSilver2k> i have a cron setup, and it should be going every minute, but of course, its not
[01:31] <SSilver2k> the program that shoudl eb launching is not
[01:31] <Org-Mode> use gnome-schedule SSilver2k
[01:31] <Org-Mode> its in the repos
[01:31] <Zelda> zsq: Its working fine. It was working fine in 8.04. I upgraded to 8.10 and its all messed.
[01:31] <zsquareplusc> Zelda: autodetection of the screen resolution only works when the hardware supports DCC. otherwise you'll have to specify resolutions manually.
[01:31] <crimsun> SSilver2k: no, but there will be email to the user that the command runs as unless you've redirected the stdout/stderr to something else
[01:32] <zsquareplusc> SSilver2k: you can set MAIL to get you mails with program output
[01:32] <Zelda> well what about all the other stuff too? It doesnt see my GFX card or anything.
[01:32] <SSilver2k> i could set mail
[01:32] <Zelda> It worked fine in 8.04.
[01:32] <AndreasMadrid> Can anyone help me to get the microphone work under ubuntu?
[01:32] <SSilver2k> probably be easier sinc eim sshing into this box
[01:32] <giaco> hello
[01:33] <zsquareplusc> SSilver2k: run GUIs with ssh -X  :-) if you prefer gui tools
[01:33] <peaces> so my fn hot keys on my laptop work sometimes and other times they don't.  Is there a way to solve this issue?
[01:33] <SSilver2k> zsquareplusc: who needs a gui? ;)
[01:33] <Zelda> zsq: Then again when I reconfigure x there isnt all the options in there, that there used to be. I could select all that myself. now all it tries to find is monitor and keyboard.
[01:34] <Zelda> SSilver2k: it was Mitsenear, but he left
[01:34] <giaco> I've just managed to compile my kernel with all the needed drivers inside (no modules at all) for a total size of 3.4mB, what should I do now to make my boot faster?
[01:34] <zsquareplusc> AndreasMadrid: i dont have a plan. what i do is install audacity, that can record. setup its sound source to alsa, hw0,0. then use the mixer settings and play around until you find the correct slider or checkbox (open properties in the mixer to see more options)
[01:35] <disappearedng> how do I umount a NFS when it says 'device is busy'?
[01:35] <Zelda> zsq: any ideas?
[01:35] <zsquareplusc> giaco: make the kernel smaller ;-)  you can also boot once with "profile" kernel option
[01:36] <Quagmire> What type of success rate does Lenovo laptops have as far as running ubuntu? I'm looking at buying a T60 Model number 1951-43u and I can't find anything that helps me know if this unit will run ubuntu.
[01:36] <giaco> zsquareplusc, how can I make my kernel smaller? I've included ONLY the needed drivers, nothing more, nothing less
[01:36] <zsquareplusc> Zelda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[01:36] <onetinsoldier> has anyone here installed the creative X-Fi driver that was released and open-sourced in November?
[01:37] <shader42> I'm having trouble mounting a windows share under hardy using samba; it worked yesterday from the commandline, but I was unable to use fstab then, and I can't do either now. Any ideas?
[01:37] <crimsun> onetinsoldier: quite a few have; check the forum
[01:37] <Delvien> I am having an issue with usb's mounting VERY slow, 30secs - minute. running 8.10
[01:37] <onetinsoldier> crimsun: ok, roger. i'll do. thanks
[01:38] <DasEi1>  shader42: did you unmount it unclean ? try force option
[01:38] <zsquareplusc> giaco: well, the original kernels are just around 2.7 MB you must have put a lot of modules in there. but i'm not sure if compiling them into the kernels is really helping much
[01:38] <zsquareplusc> giaco: make that a 2.3 MB
[01:38] <disappearedng> how do I find out what's the /dev/ name of my NFS driver?
[01:39] <shader42> DasEi1: force which command? mount?
[01:39] <Zelda> zsquareplus: thanks. I will look at that.
[01:39] <DasEi1>  disappearedng:try to find out which pid uses the nfs
[01:39] <Quagmire> I'm wanting to have a laptop that is 100% ubuntu
[01:39] <dimedo> is there some nice way to limit a java applications upstream bandwidth?
[01:39] <Administrator> i have an Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller.  I am very new to ubuntu and just installed ubuntu 8.1 on my laptop.  can someone assist me in reconfiguring my display so that i can get a resolution greater than 800x600?
[01:39] <troythetechguy> I just burn 8.10, but K3b said an error occurred during the "verify data" stage.  How can I compare the .iso to the burnt CD?
[01:39] <FiReSTaRT> really stupid question about ubuntu in general (gonna install intrepid-server on the machine fwiw).. if i add a pci advice, as long as it's supported, will it get autodetected and will the drivers get autoinstalled?
[01:39] <shader42> DasEi1: currently doing the mount with all of the options on the command line times out
[01:39] <disappearedng> DasEil I  tried using ps aux | grep nfs
[01:39] <FiReSTaRT> pci device
[01:39] <giaco> zsquareplusc, the original kernel has all the driver compiler as modules, that's why it's small. My kernel has NO modules at all, not one, and a few drivers bundled in. You should compare original kernel + used modules size :-)
[01:39] <disappearedng> what?
[01:39] <DasEi1>  shader42: yes,  -o force
[01:40] <tonsofpcs> Is there a way I can set X to use a video card that isn't the one detected by the BIOS [it shows up in lspci].   Is there an automated way to test it or will I have to manually revert xorg.conf after if it fails?
[01:40] <Kurowsaki> hello
[01:40] <DasEi1>  disappearedng:lsof /dev/.. ?
[01:40] <Natael> Evening
[01:40] <tonsofpcs> hi
[01:41] <Kurowsaki> how do u redirect to other chats
[01:41] <DasEi1>  shader42: see man mount
[01:41] <robotmonkeys> i'm trying to upgrade from breezy it intrepid and i'm having 2 problems
[01:41] <Delvien> robotmonkeys: FROM breezy?
[01:41] <zsquareplusc> giaco: yes. but i guess loading the kernel isn't the big chunk in your boot time. there are other things that help much more
[01:41] <robotmonkeys> yeah
[01:41] <DasEi1> robotmonkeys: consider a fresh install
[01:41] <Org-Mode> Kurowsaki: you mean join other chats? /join #freenode   for example
[01:41] <Delvien> robotmonkeys: You have to upgrade per distro, i suggest a reinstall
[01:41] <robotmonkeys> if that's the solution, then i wont bother upgrading
[01:41] <giaco> zsquareplusc, that's why I would like to "turn off" udev, but I don't know how to do it in the right way
[01:41] <disappearedng> DasEil so how should I start detecting it?
[01:42] <disappearedng> I am a complete n00b
[01:42] <FiReSTaRT> i'll simplify my question.. if you add a pci device, will it get autodetected and will the drivers be automatically installed?
[01:42] <Delvien> robotmonkeys: yerp, just reinstall
[01:42] <maldito> how can i install my video card driver for 8.10
[01:42] <disappearedng> fuser -m /dev/... (how do I know the ... )
[01:42] <robotmonkeys> the sys is too immportant, and it works
[01:42] <DasEi1>  disappearedng:what the devicename ?
[01:42] <FiReSTaRT> (assuming the device is supported)
[01:42] <maldito> anyone?
[01:42] <joeb3_> FiReSTaRT, if the device is supported, the answer is yes.
[01:42] <Delvien> maldito under system>admin>hardware drivers
[01:42] <FiReSTaRT> thanks joeb3_
[01:42] <Delvien> I am having an issue with usb's mounting VERY slow, 30secs - minute. running 8.10
[01:43] <sikun> ok, my laptop was running 70 degrees celcius, i just cleaned out the heatsink w/ air duster now running 50 C, is that a good temp?
[01:43] <ghindo> !upgrade | robotmonkeys
[01:43] <disappearedng> DasEil I don't know
[01:43] <zsquareplusc> giaco: did you try stuff like concurrency=shell ? and there is bootchart or something named similarly
[01:43] <maldito> i did btu cf git doesnt work
[01:43] <Administrator> can someone help me modify my display settings in 8.1 so i can increase my resolution?
[01:44] <giaco> I've tried concurrency=shell, but no improvements. I'm already using bootchart. Do you want to see the latest?
[01:44] <zsquareplusc> giaco: i'm no expert there, haven't done that myself
[01:44] <cody_> Administrator: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[01:44] <DasEi1>  disappearedng:you had in fstab, you can also umount with -o force
[01:45] <maldito> anyone how can tell me how to install my driver card
[01:45] <DasEi1>  disappearedng: open a terminal ..
[01:45] <giaco> thank you anyway zsquareplusc :-)
[01:45] <DasEi1>  disappearedng: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[01:45] <maldito> anyone
[01:45] <troythetechguy> How do I find the dpi of my screen?
[01:45] <FiReSTaRT> maldito: if you already installed the card, just click on system, go to administration and click on hardware drivers
[01:46] <maldito> i did but compiz fusion git doesnt work !
[01:46] <Administrator> has anyone had problems getting greater than 800x600 resolution in ubuntu 8.10?
[01:46] <DasEi1> troythetechguy: look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:46] <kerik> Mallen_: hey again dud
[01:46] <FiReSTaRT> maldito: in that case there's an incompatibility b/w the propriatery drivers that you're running and compiz
[01:46] <maldito> so what can i do?
[01:46] <zsquareplusc> giaco: if you're finetuning, you could also try other filesystems. ext2 is faster than ext3. xfs is faster too IIRC. and ext4 probably too
[01:46] <DasEi1>  disappearedng: pastebinit  /etc/fstab
[01:47] <FiReSTaRT> maldito, you can always remove the propriatery driver
[01:47] <wet> has anyone tried running pvpgn server in ubuntu 8.04?
[01:47] <Delvien> Can someone take a look at this http://paste.ubuntu.com/91282/ Its the dmesg from plugging in a USB and it mounting almost a minute later,
[01:47] <ghindo> giaco: So you're trying to speed up your boot?
[01:47] <DasEi1>  disappearedng:give url from last cmd here
[01:47] <hml> are there any ubuntu tools for dealing with the mpq files from warcraft 3?
[01:47] <maldito> but if i do how can i run CF G
[01:47] <kerik> help to make nvidia Xserver work?
[01:47] <ghindo> zsquareplusc: I think filesystem speed depends a lot on what you're doing.  I.e., deleting files, creating files, etc.
[01:47] <Delvien> you can use wine to run a windows app, should work
[01:48] <Delvien> hml ^
[01:48] <giaco> zsquareplusc, I've already tried all of them in the past, my conclusion is: xfs, ext2 and jfs are not reliable for long use. I still have to try ext4
[01:48] <FiReSTaRT> maldito: in that case you have to make a choice as to what's more important to you or wait for a driver update
[01:48] <onetinsoldier> troythetechguy: or you can also use the  xdpyinfo  command.  xdpyinfo | less  ...you see something like 94x95 dots per inch towards the top of the output(essential 96 dpi)
[01:48] <diamond> Why is Firefox taking 100% CPU on flash sites?
[01:48] <zsquareplusc> ghindo: yep. and booting is a lot of seeking to read small files
[01:48] <giaco> ghindo, exactly. Do you like the subject?
[01:48] <ghindo> diamond: What version of Flash are you using?
[01:48] <kerik> diamond: which flash player are you using?
[01:48] <onetinsoldier> troythetechguy: essential=essentially*
[01:49] <ghindo> giaco: Yeah.  Could I take a look at your boot chart?  What kind of times are you getting?
[01:49] <shader42> DasEi1: what am I supposed to be forcing, and why?
[01:49] <maldito> is there any channel for compiz
[01:49] <kerik> Experts on making geforce 6600go gfx work?
[01:49] <zsquareplusc> Delvien: bad cable to your fine new mobile phone? the I/O errors are not a good sign. either the cable or the drive in the mobile (or even your USB port) is not well behaving
[01:49] <Raylz> maldito: i guess #compiz
[01:49] <ozgurgerilla> hi all..
[01:49] <DasEi1> shader: you said you couldn't mount ntfs, right ?
[01:49] <diamond> ghindo, kerik. 10.0 r15
[01:49] <WebcamWonder> Guys, if I compile something, how do I remove it later?
[01:49] <Raylz> maldito: or #compiz-fusion
[01:50] <DasEi1>  disappearedng:?
[01:50] <giaco> ghindo, gimme 1 minute to upload it.
[01:50] <hml> Delvien: i'm hoping to find an open source solution
[01:50] <ozgurgerilla> can someone help me with my Atheros wireless card please?
[01:50] <kerik> diamond: which dist?
[01:50] <diamond> kerik, 8.10
[01:50] <ghindo> giaco: Sure thing.
[01:50] <Delvien> zsquareplusc: Its the same with every USB device on this machine
[01:50] <onetinsoldier> WebcamWonder: i recommend you install and use 'checkinstall'.  apt-get install checkinstall
[01:50] <kerik> ok...original adobe flash?
[01:50] <Quagmire> Any comments on the ThinkPad T60 1951-43u laptop I was asking about? I'd like to have some info before I pull the trigger and buy it and then find out it has issues running ubuntu
[01:51] <Delvien> zsquareplusc: every usb port too, doubt its hardware
[01:51] <WebcamWonder> onetinsoldier: So that it creates a deb that would be much easier to remove?
[01:51] <onetinsoldier> WebcamWonder: otherwise, it's... make uninstall
[01:51] <zsquareplusc> Delvien: front side USB port? try one on the back side
[01:51] <onetinsoldier> WebcamWonder: yes
[01:51] <kerik> diamond: original flash player or one of the free?
[01:51] <onetinsoldier> !checkinstall
[01:51] <Delvien> zsquareplusc: works the same either way
[01:51] <WebcamWonder> onetinsoldier: make uninstall, sitting in which directory?
[01:51] <giaco> ghindo, you got msg
[01:51] <kerik> nvidia cards in ubuntu?? help please
[01:51] <Delvien> kerik more details please
[01:51] <shader42> DasEi1: Yes, I have been having trouble mounting a windows share. It worked yesterday when I ran mount -t sambfs -o username=etc.... from the terminal, but my fstab line didn't work. Today, trying the same things, nothing has worked, and it keeps timing out.
[01:51] <onetinsoldier> WebcamWonder: in the directory where you compiled the source...
[01:51] <troythetechguy> onetinsoldier: Thanks.  This could be the reason why my fonts look a little blurry:  resolution:    86x84 dots per inch .  I have the manual for my monitor, but how do I know what to change this to, and how do I make the change (do I just edit a file)?
[01:52] <ozgurgerilla> can someone help me with my Atheros wireless card please?
[01:52] <kerik> Delvien: I have a problem with a geforce 6600go....can you help me?
[01:52] <diamond> kerik, it shows up as Shockwave flash in FF
[01:52] <Delvien> kerik ... more details? whats wrong?
[01:52] <WebcamWonder> onetinsoldier: Wait, so if I compile something, I have to make sure to keep the source I compiled from around?
[01:52] <kerik> Delvien: well...I have installed the nVidia driver...but it doesn't seem to use it...
[01:52] <onetinsoldier> WebcamWonder: yes.. unless you use checkinstall
[01:52] <Delvien> kerik its loading in low-graphics mode?
[01:52] <zsquareplusc> Delvien: hm. maybe a hardware defect of the USB controller then. or some weird BIOS setting confusing the hardware (bus speed for example).
[01:53] <kerik> diamond: have you gotten the chance of using another version of flash?
[01:53] <ghindo> giaco: Yeah, got it.  34 seconds certainly isn't bad.  Are you using ufw?  Similarly, do you have anything encrypted on your machines?
[01:53] <WebcamWonder> onetinsoldier: I see why checkinstall is much preferred :)... Awesome thanks... and do you happen to know anything regarding compiling pidgin?
[01:53] <kerik> Delvien: exactly
[01:53] <onetinsoldier> troythetechguy: i'm not sure. i don't know that it's a setting in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, but i might be
[01:53] <DasEi1> shader 42 : try to append -o force in the cmd-line
[01:53] <jigp> hello how to burn an iso? im using ubuntu 8.04 kde :)
[01:53] <giaco> ghindo, what's ufw? nothing is encrypted on my boot process
[01:53] <Delvien> kerik ah, seems alot of people are having the trouble, i fixed mine by installing beta drivers from nvidia manually, although i dont suggest that for noobies
[01:53] <DasEi1> jigp: use k3b
[01:53] <diamond> kerik, nop, I couldnt download it
[01:54] <kerik> Delvien: I think I have done the same...
[01:54] <Delvien> zsquareplusc: doh! Well ill check bios
[01:54] <jigp> DasEi1: thanks
[01:54] <DasEi1> jigp: see:
[01:54] <DasEi1> !burn
[01:54] <Delvien> brb
[01:54] <DasEi1> !iso
[01:54] <kerik> Delvien: dont know if it was the newest though...
[01:54] <mac> what is required to make a ubuntu server forward ip traffic?  I don't want it to server dns or dhcp, just forward packets that other pcs send it
[01:54] <giaco> ghindo, if uwf is the firewall, no firewall
[01:54] <mac> serve*
[01:54] <kerik> diamond: 2 sec
[01:54] <DasEi1>  disappearedng:?
[01:54] <onetinsoldier> WebcamWonder: yes.. but i'll be gone for a few minutes... i'll be back fairly quickly
[01:54] <karllenz> how do i run nvidia x server settings manager as root???
[01:54] <cody_> Is there something special after I install a font through synaptic in order to use it?
[01:54] <Raylz> karllenz: prefix sudo?
[01:54] <WebcamWonder> onetinsoldier: Just wanted to know what command line arguments are required for the ./compile.
[01:55] <ozgurgerilla> can someone help me with my Atheros wireless card please?
[01:55] <zsquareplusc> !gksu > karllenz
[01:55] <troythetechguy> onetinsoldier: Any idea what I would change the dpi value to?
[01:55] <ghindo> giaco: I see ufw on the bootchart; maybe try uninstalling it?  Also, I'm seeing some encryption program starting up on boot - maybe try uninstalling that as well?
[01:55] <ghindo> giaco: What sort of boot time are you trying to achieve?
[01:55] <zsquareplusc> karllenz: you'll have to use a terminal to launch it. just prefix the command with gksu
[01:56] <karllenz> ill try gksu
[01:56] <disappearedng> DasEil I am sorry just now my computer just froze
[01:56] <giaco> ghindo, nothing specifically, I just want to eliminate all the boot stuff I don't need / I don't use. Probably I don't know all the names in the bootchart list so, if you see any of these where I should take action, please list here
[01:57] <disappearedng> DasEil after restart I managed to unmount it thx
[01:57] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: gksu nvidia x server settings manager did not work
[01:57] <DasEi1>  disappearedng:no problem
[01:57]  * DasEi1 brb
[01:57] <ghindo> giaco: Have you looked at the bootchart thread on the forums?
[01:57] <yowshi> anyone here know how to get a wine game to connect through hamachi?
[01:57] <kerik> diamond: try Synaptics (tell me if you dont know where to find it..)
[01:57] <zsquareplusc> karllenz: because that's not the name of the program. you could use the <tab> key for command completion
[01:58] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: ok ill try that
[01:58] <giaco> ghindo, there are a lot of them, is there a specific one?
[01:58] <kerik> diamond: in Synaptics choose flashblock in the quicksearch...
[01:58] <ghindo> giaco: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=531453
[01:58] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: nothing comes up
[01:58] <zsquareplusc> hhuuhh,,  aallll  cchhaarraacctteerrss  ttyyppee  ttwwiiccee  nnooww????
[01:58] <sacamano> here's a question of the day. whenever my laptop gets unplugged, after 2-3 seconds on battery power the keyboard stops responding. touchpad is fine, but the keyboard wont type into any program, cntl-alt-backspace still kills x. killing x and restarting it works for about 5 seconds...
[01:58] <kerik> diamond: that could work..
[01:58] <giaco> zsquareplusc, lol
[01:59] <zsquareplusc> nnoo  jjookkee  ::((
[01:59] <Administrator> can some1 please help me find a way to increase the resolution of my ubuntu 8.1
[01:59] <kerik> diamond: other than that I am sorry, but I have to go to bed...
[01:59] <mewshi> Administrator, it might not be possible
[01:59] <diamond> kerik, alright
[01:59] <giaco> thank you ghindo. I'm reading
[01:59] <diamond> kerik, ty
[01:59] <kerik> np
[01:59] <kerik> diamond: did you find it?
[01:59] <diamond> kerik, yes
[01:59] <kerik> cool...hope it works...
[01:59] <ghindo> giaco: That thread has a lot of useful tips and tricks for slimming down your boot process.  It's kind of long, but very helpful.
[02:00] <onetinsoldier> troythetechguy: try the value i showed...  94x95 dots per inch
[02:00] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: i got it with nvidia-settings
[02:00] <onetinsoldier> WebcamWonder: hello, still here?
[02:00] <zsquareplusc> hm unplugging the usb keyboard fixed it
[02:00] <WebcamWonder> onetinsoldier: Yeah
[02:00] <onetinsoldier> ok
[02:00] <ab-k2> Section "Device"
[02:00] <zsquareplusc> karllenz: gksu nvidia-settings
[02:00] <ab-k2> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[02:00] <ab-k2> EndSection
[02:00] <ab-k2> Section "Monitor"
[02:00] <ab-k2> 	Identifier	"Configured Monitor"
[02:00] <ab-k2> EndSection
[02:00] <FloodBot3> ab-k2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:00] <WebcamWonder> onetinsoldier: I don't have network manager, so I just wanted to know what command line arguments removes the dependency from it
[02:01] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: yep i got it with that now when i try to save my xorg it says unable to create backup
[02:01] <onetinsoldier> WebcamWonder: make sure you have everything that's needed with....  sudo apt-get build-deb pidgin  ...doesn't matter what dir you're in when you do that
[02:01] <zsquareplusc> karllenz: ah, there you already had it. i had my problems with the  keyboard repeating characters twice for a moment :/
[02:01] <sacamano> here's a question of the day. whenever my laptop gets unplugged, after 2-3 seconds on battery power the keyboard stops responding. touchpad is fine, but the keyboard wont type into any program, cntl-alt-backspace still kills x. killing x and restarting it works for about 5 seconds...
[02:01] <onetinsoldier> WebcamWonder: you were wanting to know about pidgin.. correct?
[02:01] <WebcamWonder> onetinsoldier: Yeah, but doesn't that pull in network-manager-dev? Doesn't that bring in network-manager?
[02:01] <nintendork32> what is some screen recording software for Ubuntu
[02:01] <nintendork32> ?
[02:02] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: the issue is basically im trying to run my pc with a 64inch dlp tv
[02:02] <onetinsoldier> WebcamWonder: hmmm, i'm not certain, but i don't think so
[02:02] <fosco_> nintendork32: gtk-recordmydesktop
[02:02] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: and every time i logg out i loss my resolution settings and its such a pain to get them back
[02:02] <onetinsoldier> WebcamWonder: apt-cache depends pidgin
[02:03] <onetinsoldier> WebcamWonder: i don't see it on there
[02:03] <ghindo> nintendork32: Istanbul
[02:03] <WebcamWonder> onetinsoldier: Wow, that command is handy
[02:03] <nintendork32> what is the better one out of the two?
[02:03] <fosco_> the two
[02:04] <ghindo> nintendork32: I've only ever used Istanbul, so I dunno.  You can try them both out and see for yourself!
[02:04] <karllenz> how can i set what type of display i have?
[02:04] <zsquareplusc> karllenz: but it saves the file? even if it cant create the backup (you could cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf{,-backup} )
[02:04] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: no
[02:04] <karllenz> my xorg is very sort
[02:04] <karllenz> short*
[02:05] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: i does not even say anything about my resolution or monitor
[02:06] <ZuckusFIll> anybody familiar with Kino?
[02:07] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: ok i think i fixed it i was able to get a show preview option from nvidia which showed my xorg file that it wants to write and i copy and pasted
[02:07] <zsquareplusc> karllenz: my nvidia settings tool opens a dialog with the "save to x conf file". it will ask for a filename and the preview shows a huge file
[02:08] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: yep i copyed the preview file and pasted it to my xorg
[02:08] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: because it errors when i try to save
[02:08] <GodfatherofEire> Any ideas why Evolution doesnt play the sound that its supposed to when I get a new e-mail?
[02:08] <onetinsoldier> WebcamWonder: yes... it is. buti's only good for sources where the package is already available in Ubuntu
[02:09] <RealKillaz> Is there a shortcut to open a terminal?
[02:09] <giaco> ghindo, do you know what's binfmt-support service?
[02:09] <WebcamWonder> onetinsoldier: Yeah... Alright thanks, I will try to compile pidgin later tonight
[02:09] <nintendork32> bleh, hate them both
[02:09] <ghindo> giaco: No I don't, sorry :(
[02:09] <nintendork32> !screenrecord
[02:09] <nintendork32> !screenrecording
[02:09] <ubuntu_> !xchat
[02:09] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: now the only thing left to configuer is my tv tuner card which is a philips 7130 i tried google and cant seem to find anything
[02:10] <nintendork32> ubuntu_, sudo apt-get install xchat
[02:10] <onetinsoldier> WebcamWonder: ok.. good luck!
[02:10] <ubuntu_> onetinsoldier: Thanks.
[02:10] <zsquareplusc> karllenz: a PCI or USB thing? try to search for the ID you find with lspci/lsusb
[02:11] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: it is pci
[02:11] <Delvien_away> I've got a slow boot problem in Intrepid, and it seems to hang on "lmpcm_usb.c::USB Logitech MediaPlay Cordless Mouse driver"
[02:11] <woody86> is anyone here really good with troubleshooting networking issues?
[02:12] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: lspci shows philips semconductors SAA7130 vidoe broadcast decoder
[02:12] <TeamColtra[NADC]> Does anyone know how to get a Wacom Mouse working?
[02:13] <TeamColtra[NADC]> currently I am using my keyboard to get my way around the screen... I don't know what happened to my backup mouse that I used to use
[02:13] <zsquareplusc> karllenz: yes, searching for the 2  4 digit hex numbers with "ubuntu" or "linux" might find some help
[02:14] <rockenrola> Consider this image http://e.imagehost.org/0420/Screenshot.png, can anyone tell me what is it or how to do it?
[02:14] <zsquareplusc> TeamColtra[NADC]: shift+ctrl+numlock? (keypad mouse ;-)
[02:14] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: the 02:01.0?
[02:14] <kaiser10123> is there room for icebuntu or ubuntu with icewm
[02:14] <zsquareplusc> karllenz: nope, lspci -n
[02:14] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: ok
[02:15] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: its alot like mac
[02:15] <TeamColtra[NADC]> @zsquareplusc joke or for serious? and if serious... how do I get that to work?
[02:15] <ghindo> rockenrola: The image you posted is a dead link
[02:15] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: 8086:1039
[02:16] <zsquareplusc> TeamColtra[NADC]: it's a joke in the sense that it wont solve your real problem. but they keyboard mouse works. press the keys i mentioned and then use the numbers on the keypad
[02:16] <zsquareplusc> karllenz: yep :-)
[02:16] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: ok
[02:16] <zsquareplusc> karllenz: well, no. this seems to be some intel chip
[02:16] <rockenrola> ghindo: it works for me, but let me host it in another place
[02:16] <diamond> I'm having problems with firefox + flash. My CPU goes to 100% when visiting flash sites.
[02:16] <TeamColtra[NADC]> zsquareplusc: Doesn't seem to be working for me either :(
[02:16] <Delvien> zsquareplusc: nothing in the bios is set wrong
[02:16] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: shoot wrong one
[02:17] <zsquareplusc> karllenz: you have to find the correct line. compare the 02:01.0 numbering
[02:17] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: im sorry
[02:17] <ghindo> rockenrola: Oh wait, the comma at the end of the link transferred over.  Nevermind.
[02:17] <diamond> I'm using the latest flash (from adobe site) and the latest packaged firefox version.
[02:17] <TeamColtra[NADC]> zsquareplusc: the windows button seems not to bring up the main menu in Ubuntu, is there a key that can do that?
[02:17] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: 1131:7130 thats it
[02:17] <ghindo> rockenrola: And sorry to say I can't help you with your problem, sorry :(
[02:17] <onetinsoldier> diamond: need more details. like what version of ubuntu you are running. what version of flash you are using and how you installed it, ect.
[02:18] <zsquareplusc> Delvien: well if absolutely no usb device works, even if you boot with the live cd. i'd suspect a hardware issue
[02:18] <killer--tux> WEP CRACKING  (MY OWN WIFI)
[02:18] <onetinsoldier> !flash | diamond
[02:18] <zsquareplusc> TeamColtra[NADC]: hm
[02:18] <diamond> onetinsoldier, Ubuntu 8.10, latest flash plugin from adobe's site.
[02:19] <hikenboot> anyone know if there is an init-ng package for intrepid
[02:19] <onetinsoldier> diamond: ok, you using 64-bit userspace? amd64/x86_64?
[02:19] <deten> anyone available for some support?
[02:19] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: also what program would i use for a tv card?
[02:19] <diamond> onetinsoldier, no, 32bit
[02:19] <Delvien> zsquareplusc: they work just mount REALLY slow
[02:19] <ghindo> deten: Sure, what's the problem you're having?
[02:19] <zsquareplusc> TeamColtra[NADC]:  the KP zero is right click
[02:20] <deten> ghindo, using ubuntu 8.10 x86 fresh install, my sound only works between 55%-100% any below 55% gives me zero volume
[02:20] <zsquareplusc> Delvien: well, the i/O errors you've shown in the dmesg would make me nervous
[02:20] <onetinsoldier> diamond: ok, hmmm. i'mnot familiar with problems with that architecture of Ubuntu. keep stating your problem every fewe minutes and include thoe deatials that i asked for in your message
[02:21] <docmur> anyone had luck with rapget on wine, I installed it and configured it with a 16 min time out but when I put a link into it and the 16 min is up instead of downloading it reports an error and then starts the wait again for 16 min
[02:21] <zsquareplusc> karllenz: depends. xawtv for example for analaog cards. me-tv for DVB-T and there are a lot more
[02:21] <ghindo> deten: Are you sure it's not an issue with the hardware or specific application sound levels?
[02:21] <jlc_> !PS3
[02:21] <onetinsoldier> diamond: sorry. i can't type for crap
[02:21] <Delvien> zsquareplusc: Happening since 8.04
[02:21] <Delvien> zsquareplusc: no HW has failed yet.. so... im assuming its Software related.
[02:21] <diamond> onetinsoldier, ok ty
[02:21] <onetinsoldier> diamond: i'm not familiar with problems with that architecture of Ubuntu 8.10 when it comes to flash problem. keep stating your problem every few minutes and include those details that i asked for in your message
[02:22] <karllenz> zsquareplusc: im not finding anything i can understand via google lol
[02:22] <onetinsoldier> diamond: ok
[02:22] <zsquareplusc> Delvien: you could try booting with "noapic"
[02:22] <hikenboot> init-ng for 8.1 anyone? link? cant seem to find it for this version of ubuntu
[02:22] <deten> ghindo: well it worked in 7.04, and since 7.10/8.04/8.10 its stopped.  I am confident its software because my xp boot works fine.
[02:22] <TeamColtra[NADC]> lol  my mouse works but only right click and the scroll wheel
[02:22] <Delvien> zsquareplusc: kk brb
[02:23] <giaco> ghindo, I'm rebooting, see you in seconds (hopefully)
[02:23] <diamond> I'm having problems with firefox + flash. My CPU goes to 100% when visiting flash sites. I'm using the latest flash (from adobe site) and the latest packaged firefox version. (on 8.10)
[02:23] <farkousse> hi al
[02:23] <farkousse> hi all
[02:24] <gnurph> i've got vmplayer installed; work fine with one exception - not working with my wireless card.  where might i look for a solution?
[02:24] <farkousse> I have a large file that was split and comressed using rar
[02:24] <onetinsoldier> diamond: on that same line state that your Ubuntu is 32-bit!
[02:24] <farkousse> how do I uncompress and put it back together?
[02:24] <diamond> k
[02:24] <zsquareplusc> gnurph: your trying to do host networking?
[02:25] <gnurph> zsquare:  no, i want the vm to have access to the NIC
[02:25] <TeamColtra[NADC]> lol okay so I found out I need to put sudo apt-get install wacom-tools
[02:25] <TeamColtra[NADC]> in my terminal
[02:25] <TeamColtra[NADC]> but I can't figure out how to get my menu bar open to select terminal
[02:26] <deten1> ghindo: sorry my internet went out
[02:26] <zsquareplusc> gnurph: yes that's what i meant. directly accessing the NIC involves bridging or some feature wireless drivers apparently don't yet supply
[02:26] <_Zeus_> How come when I generate a public/private key pair, and put them all in the right spots, it still wants the password?
[02:26] <Delvien> zsquareplusc: noapic or noacpi ?
[02:26] <zsquareplusc> TeamColtra[NADC]: ctrl+F2 -> gnome-termoinal
[02:26] <_Zeus_> I know everything's right because if the permissions are wrong, it complains
[02:26] <zsquareplusc> TeamColtra[NADC]: alt+F2 even
[02:27] <digifor> I am stuck with this: Domino 8.5 Unable to bind to port Port = 6400 errno = 98 "Address already in use"
[02:27] <zsquareplusc> _Zeus_: ssh? either oyu have to say it should load the file or ssh-add it to the agent
[02:27] <digifor> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=992452
[02:27] <gnurph> zsquare:  so not possible, even tho wireless NIC works in Linux?  I'm running an XP guest in Ubuntu
[02:27] <_Zeus_> zsquareplusc: yeah, with -i filename
[02:28] <zsquareplusc> gnurph: yep, that's what i heard. but the NAT type of networking should work in any case
[02:28] <zsquareplusc> _Zeus_: and you set a passphrase for your key?
[02:28] <_Zeus_> no
[02:28] <_Zeus_> just hit enter for no passphrase
[02:28] <digifor> netstat gives me: "tcp        0      0 localhost:smtp          *:*                     LISTEN      -  "
[02:29] <gnurph> zsquare:  guest OS(Win) doesn't see any NIC regardless of networking type.
[02:29] <digifor> How can I find out what is using port 25?
[02:29] <zsquareplusc> _Zeus_: and the server has your public key? it will fall back to passwd auth if it hasn't..
[02:29] <_Zeus_> zsquareplusc: it most indeed does
[02:29] <onetinsoldier> digifor: the lsof command
[02:31] <_Zeus_> zsquareplusc: thanks, but i fixed it
[02:31] <rastar> hey, n00b question: whats the command for checking a packages dependency. something like apt-get dependence foo ?
[02:31] <Flannel> rastar: apt-cache showpkg foo
[02:31] <giaco> ghindo, I'm almost below 30 now
[02:31] <rastar> cool thanks
[02:31] <zsquareplusc> digifor: sudo netstat -lnp
[02:32] <Wickk> How can I merge 3 .rar files together?
[02:32] <rastar> Flannel: and searching is just search ?
[02:32] <zsquareplusc> _Zeus_: and what was the problem?
[02:32] <Flannel> rastar: apt-cache search blah
[02:32] <rastar> Flannel: thanks
[02:32] <_Zeus_> zsquareplusc: server home directory had the wrong permissions, couldn't read the files
[02:32] <zsquareplusc> _Zeus_: ah :-)
[02:32] <_Zeus_> Wickk: install unrar-free, then use file-roller to open them
[02:33] <zsquareplusc> giaco: you could also hibernate instead of reboot ;-)
[02:33] <Flannel> rastar: You may also be interested in apt-cache show foo (foo is a package) it'll give more details abotu the package (full description, etc), not just the bookkeeping stuff (which is what showpkg does)
[02:33] <Wickk> _Zeus_: ok, ty
[02:33] <Delvien> zsquareplusc: eh, still slow mounting, tried noapic and noacpi
[02:34] <digifor> zsquareplusc, and onetinsoldier thanks. So I need to shut down exim4
[02:34] <onetinsoldier> digifor: ahhh, roger
[02:34] <onetinsoldier> digifor: you're welcome
[02:34] <computer> what is like frostwire?
[02:34] <zsquareplusc> Delvien: i won't have good ideas anymore.. you could try older kernels (oldl live cd) again to check if it's really a software issue as you suspect older versions worked better
[02:35] <gnurph> zsquare:  do i have to do something special in the vmx to specify the wireless NIC, other than call it a second N IC?
[02:35] <computer> what is like frostwire and limewire?
[02:35] <zsquareplusc> digifor: it was only listening on localhost, you had no open ports to the outside, if you're considering security
[02:35] <Delvien> zsquareplusc: eh, its not really an issue, just annoying
[02:36] <onetinsoldier> computer: a frosty cold Corona with a lime in it?  j/k
[02:36] <hml> gcc -m32 test.c # for a very simple test.c complains about: x@x:~/blah$ gcc -m32 test.c
[02:36] <hml> /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.3.2/libgcc.a when searching for -lgcc
[02:36] <hml> yhet i have libgcc32 and ia32-libs installed
[02:36] <computer> :)
[02:36] <computer> anyone?
[02:37] <loceur> sheesh, 12k users.  nice
[02:37] <zsquareplusc> gnurph: sorry i dont know the details of your VM solution. /me uses virtualbox
[02:37] <onetinsoldier> computer: what do they do? frostwire and limewire? what are they?
[02:37] <onetinsoldier> !limewire
[02:37] <computer> p2p
[02:37] <computer> i think
[02:37] <gnurph> zsquare:  ah ,ok thank you
[02:37] <loceur> anyone know of a clean way to remove all X/graphics applications from an ubuntu desktop install?
[02:37] <zsquareplusc> !tab > gnurph  ;-)
[02:37] <ernesto> irc.neomex.net
[02:37] <FAJ> loceur:  sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[02:37] <FAJ> ?
[02:37] <Flannel> loceur: Therea re not-so-difficult methods,
[02:38] <onetinsoldier> computer: but you don't want a torrent client?
[02:38] <gizmo> can anyone teach me how to use bittorrent?
[02:38] <Flannel> FAJ: no, that won't work as ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage
[02:38] <computer> i guess
[02:38] <computer> can i search file with it?
[02:38] <Flannel> gizmo: Download a torrent file, double click it, wait for your file
[02:38] <loceur> Flannel; I was thinking of apt-get remove X, and see what comes falling down with it
[02:38] <FAJ> Flannel:  i did that once on accident, and it removed x, basically... lol. just a thought.
[02:38] <nelvinurena> hello, can someone help to make the flash player work on Firefox?
[02:38] <loceur> any better techniques?
[02:38] <gizmo> Flannel, where to find the torrent file..i want to d/l movie ..
[02:39] <Flannel> loceur: That'd more or less be what you do, yeah.  Make sure you grab both the server and the client.
[02:39] <FAJ> nelvinurena: 64-bit?
[02:39] <TeamColtra[NADC]> lol I think I may have done it... with no mouse at all simply using some tricky keyboard skills (and no keyboard based mouse thank you) I might have got this all fixed... reboot and we will see
[02:39]  * loceur nods
[02:39] <loceur> thanks
[02:39] <magnetron> gizmo→ you need to find a .torrent file. these are small files. double click it and Transmission will ask you where you want to download the stuff. keep Transmission running until the download is finished.
[02:39] <nelvinurena> FAJ:no 32
[02:39] <computer> !p2p
[02:39] <FAJ> !flash | nelvinurena
[02:39] <onetinsoldier> computer: thare are several torrent clients available. although heavy, i like Azureus. but then , i hardly ever use torrents or a torrent client
[02:39] <FAJ> nelvinurena: there is also a new package in medibuntu.... i forget it's name, but it has the new flash, and it works quite well
[02:40] <Flannel> gizmo: Piracy is offtopic for this channel (and all of freenode).  If you want to make sure you know how your torrent client works, you could try it on an Ubuntu ISO.
[02:41] <computer> will try out Azureus than
[02:41] <gizmo> Flannel,  yeah im using ubuntu iso..that why im asking herer
[02:41] <gizmo> *here
[02:41] <onetinsoldier> nelvinurena: what version of Ubuntu? what architecture? 32-bit or 64-bit?
[02:41] <nelvinurena> is 32-bit
[02:41] <Flannel> gizmo: Actually, I have a better idea.  There are a few libre movies out there.  You could try grabbing Big Buck Bunny,  http://blender.waag.org/big_buck_bunny_720p_stereo.ogg.torrent would be a moderately sized one.
[02:42] <nelvinurena> hey Faj how can i get it?
[02:42] <n0chi> hey need a little help in ubuntu please
[02:42] <FAJ> !medibuntu | nelvinurena
[02:42] <FAJ> that should help...
[02:42] <nelvinurena> ok let see if this work.
[02:42] <shader42> DasEi: you're back
[02:43] <n0chi> i just installed ubuntu 8.04 and am not able to go to http://www.bu.edu
[02:43] <Flannel> !ask | n0chi
[02:43] <TeamColtra[NADC]> Well dang... Not only is my  mouse still not working... but i forgot that I had a custom xorg file due to my graphics card.. so I now have a sucky resoultion on my screen
[02:43] <TeamColtra[NADC]> and no mouse
[02:43] <TeamColtra[NADC]> >.<
[02:43] <shader42> DasEi: still no luck with samba :(
[02:43] <Flannel> n0chi: Can you get to any other sites?  Are you connected to IRC from that machine right now?
[02:43] <jeremy> Hi, I have a question
[02:43] <n0chi> yes i am
[02:43] <n0chi> and i can get to other sites just fine
[02:43] <Charley> i need help setting up my wireless internet... im new to ubuntu
[02:43] <jeremy> I'm trying to install intrepid ibex on my other laptop but the probem is
[02:43] <jeremy> When I try to turn the computer on
[02:44] <jeremy> I get a qwhite screen at first, then a series of blue and white lines
[02:44] <jeremy> and really bad graphic malfunctions
[02:44] <jeremy> I just heard the ubuntu startup sound, but I don't see anything
[02:44] <TeamColtra[NADC]> jeremy: that means that your computer is fried
[02:44] <jeremy> And I have seen nothing
[02:44] <Flannel> jeremy: Get the Alternate CD and install using that
[02:44] <TeamColtra[NADC]> ;) jk
[02:44] <jeremy> What alternate CD
[02:44] <Flannel> !alternate | jeremy
[02:44] <shader42> DasEi: do you have any idea why mount would time out? firewall? bad password? missing arguments?
[02:45] <jeremy> Well, I just don't understand what difference it makes
[02:45] <DasEi> shader42:no idea
[02:45] <jeremy> I'm trying to figure out why I can't even turn on my computer without the disk without seeing the white and blue lines
[02:46] <veloc1ty> jeremy, the hardware you use is not supported or not proper installed
[02:46] <Flannel> jeremy: Ah, that may be a hardware issue then.  Do you see the boot menu right after you boot the CD?
[02:46] <veloc1ty> the alternate cd will help you with that
[02:46] <jeremy> No, no boot menu
[02:46] <jeremy> I don't have an extra CD
[02:46] <Flannel> jeremy: Right.  Just lines?
[02:46] <jeremy> Yeah kind of
[02:46] <jeremy> Just blotchy blue and white covering the screen
[02:46] <veloc1ty> have you done any changes to grub?
[02:46] <jeremy> No
[02:47] <veloc1ty> with usplash or something like that?
[02:47] <Flannel> jeremy: Do you see any non-garbled text or anything before the lines start?
[02:47] <jeremy> No
[02:47] <computer> how do i search for a file using Azureus?
[02:47] <Flannel> jeremy: Thats almost certainly a hardware issue then.  Try reseating your graphics card, blowing everything out, etc.
[02:48] <jeremy> How do I do that?
[02:48] <n0chi> i wouldnt think BU would be blocking ubuntu would it?
[02:48] <gu_> i am on ubuntu 8.04.1 with a geforce4 ti 4200. even though i am using nvidia driver i have 640 480 max resolution
[02:49] <veloc1ty> n0chi, try sudo apt-get traceroute
[02:49] <Flannel> jeremy: Open up the case, remove the graphics card and put it back in again.  Get canned air, blow stuff out, etc.  If you're not comfortable with that, find a friend who is comfortable with computer hardware and ask them for help
[02:49] <veloc1ty> and then type sudo tracert *yoururl*
[02:49] <veloc1ty> and see where it stops
[02:49] <n0chi> where do i do that?
[02:49] <obsrv> gu_: update to 8.10 I think
[02:49] <veloc1ty> in terminal
[02:49] <obsrv> solution would be the best
[02:49] <n0chi> cool thanks
[02:49] <n0chi> brb
[02:49] <docmur> anyone here use Rapget on wine with any results
[02:50] <jeremy> Well that's not the problem thogh
[02:50] <woody86> what firewall gui is the best/ most maintained today?
[02:50] <jeremy> Because it just worked with Windows XP
[02:50] <skz0r> i need to know how to acces usb devices on ubuntu
[02:50] <gu_> obsrv: no luck, i downgraded because its support its worse
[02:50] <jeremy> and then as soon as I place the disk in there and turn the computer on
[02:50] <jeremy> BAM
[02:50] <jeremy> it's mess up
[02:50] <computer> never mind
[02:50] <Flannel> jeremy: You just said without the CD it still has issues.  Which means booting to XP again
[02:50] <docmur> actually any rapid share program with a time waiting will work
[02:50] <n0chi> hey where is the terminal! lol
[02:50] <skz0r> can anyoine help me?
[02:51] <jeremy> Flannel: Yes, but it wasn't a problem before I inserted the CD. As soon as I did it, it has issues
[02:51] <cdeszaq2> Can I use gparted from a live CD to grow an ntfs windows partition and shrink an ext3 data partition safely?
[02:51] <skz0r> pm if so
[02:51] <docmur> but what happens is my links are always currpted and there good links cause I can get to them manually
[02:51] <Flannel> jeremy: And if you take the CD out and reboot, it still happens?
[02:51] <jkristheking> hey how can i uninstall the brightness controller/app in ubnutu 8.10? because my bios alreay controls it and it's like having double brightness adjusters
[02:51] <onetinsoldier> woody86: there are some that are available on the internet, several really, including this filename: firewall-1.8.2.tar.gz
[02:51] <jeremy> Flannel: Yes. SOMETIMES, and I'm not sure of the pattern, but SOMETIMES it will take me to the main screen and let me go into XP
[02:51] <veloc1ty> applications > accessories > terminal
[02:51] <jeremy> but I only get it like 1 every 100 reboots
[02:52] <onetinsoldier> woody86: however, if you waould like to apt-get install one, then try shorewall, or firestarter
[02:52] <ectospasm> I've got a problem with resolvconf:  when I start my vpn connection, only it only partially overwrites /etc/resolv.conf, and it seems to be missing key information (namely, the "search" and "domain" lines in /etc/resolv.conf)
[02:52] <onetinsoldier> !firewall | woody86
[02:52] <n0chi> i get an invalid operation traceroute error
[02:53] <gu_> can someone help me ?
[02:53] <onetinsoldier> woody86: withthat said i don't know a lot about the firewalls or iptables or anything like that, and i just use firestarter
[02:53] <Stanlin> gu_: sure, ask me
[02:53] <veloc1ty> did you run it with sudo?
[02:53] <woody86> onetinsoldier, I heard that Firestarter is no longer maintained and hasn't been for some time now, Do you know anything about this?
[02:53] <n0chi> yes
[02:53] <veloc1ty> sudo tracert www.bu.edu
[02:53] <veloc1ty> or bu.edu
[02:53] <n0chi> command not found
[02:54] <jeremy> Flannel: See, when I start the computer even without the disk, I get the weird graphic error
[02:54] <veloc1ty> you installed it before?
[02:54] <gu_> i have a geforce4 ti 4200 in ubuntu 8.04.1 even with nvidia driver i get 640 * 480 max
[02:54] <n0chi> nope
[02:54] <veloc1ty> ok, then try sudo apt-get install traceroute
[02:54] <Flannel> jeremy: right, it's a hardware issue.  Ubuntu won't make any changes to a system just by booting to the CD
[02:54] <n0chi> "sudo apt-get traceroute" failed
[02:54] <Flannel> n0chi: sudo apt-get install traceroute
[02:54] <magtom2003> Hello all!
[02:54] <n0chi> ah ok
[02:54] <n0chi> thanks
[02:54] <n0chi> thats doing something now
[02:54] <jeremy> Flannel: It can't be, I turned it on, went into XP, did nothing, turned it off, put in the CD and now it won't work
[02:55] <gu_> Stanlin: see my problem above
[02:55] <jeremy> It just seems like an exreme coincidence
[02:55] <jeremy> IF it truly is a hardware issue
[02:55] <skz0r> hello!
[02:55] <cdeszaq2> jeremy: I had that happen to me once too...somehow my mobo got fried...never had trouble since tho
[02:55] <skz0r> wtf
[02:55] <n0chi> ﻿sudo apt-get traceroute
[02:55] <onetinsoldier> woody86: i do that that it still works just fine.but yeah, it's probably getting a bit dated. for moment, i guess it doesn't really need 'maintenance'. i suppose the author achieved his target/goal
[02:55] <onetinsoldier> know*
[02:56] <n0chi> i got some 16 lines of stuff
[02:56] <magtom2003> Need some direction if possbile...Just installed 32 bit version of 8.10.  Loving it, but I'm rather new and It keeps locking up on me with no error message...how can I trouble shoot?
[02:56] <n0chi> what should i be looking for
[02:56] <veloc1ty> is it hanging anywhere?
[02:56] <n0chi> when i did sudo traceroute www.bu.edu
[02:56] <gu_> hey onetinsoldier still me (thebloggu) :P downgraded to 8.04
[02:56] <veloc1ty> or is it going through
[02:56] <cdeszaq2> n0chi: What are you trying to accomplish?
[02:56] <woody86> onetinsoldier, ok, thanks for the help :)
[02:56] <n0chi> it came back to a prompt
[02:56] <veloc1ty> ok, try navigate to your desktop
[02:56] <Stanlin> anyone tried this 3D virtual video card for Virtualbox?? http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~andreslc/xen-gl/
[02:56] <veloc1ty> (cd Desktop)
[02:56] <onetinsoldier> gu_: oh hello thebloggu :-)  roger... so it's working ok then?
[02:57] <veloc1ty> and type wget http://www.bu.edu
[02:57] <gu_> onetinsoldier: no, at all
[02:57] <Flannel> n0chi: right, you just installed traceroute
[02:57] <jeremy> Anybody know of a fix to my problem???????????
[02:57] <onetinsoldier> woody86: ok, good luck
[02:57] <jeremy> Anybody?????
[02:57] <veloc1ty> to make sure that it's not browser related
[02:57] <onetinsoldier> gu_: no? how come?
[02:57] <gu_> onetinsoldier: now the drivers installed straight but still 640 480 max
[02:57] <n0chi> wget seems to be hanging
[02:57] <cdeszaq2> jeremy: can you get to the bios of your mobo?
[02:57] <Flannel> jeremy: Try troubleshooting the hardware like I said.  I assure you it's not software related.
[02:57] <jeremy> mobo?
[02:57] <veloc1ty> ok, that's bad
[02:57] <veloc1ty> are you using a proxy?
[02:57] <onetinsoldier> gu_: you shold have done a fresh install, rather than downgrade
[02:57] <cdeszaq2> jeremy: motherbord
[02:57] <jeremy> oh ok
[02:57] <veloc1ty> seems to be a network issue then
[02:57] <jeremy> well
[02:58] <n0chi> oh
[02:58] <n0chi> nope
[02:58] <jeremy> I'm willing to open it up and take a look
[02:58] <gu_> i did a fresh install :P
[02:58] <n0chi> just a dsl router
[02:58] <veloc1ty> dns resolving works, network works..
[02:58] <n0chi> and this laptop
[02:58] <asdg>    _   _   _____   _       _        ___  
[02:58] <asdg>   | | | | | ____| | |     | |      / _ \ 
[02:58] <asdg>   | |_| | |  _|   | |     | |     | | | |
[02:58] <asdg>   |  _  | | |___  | |___  | |___  | |_| |
[02:58] <asdg>   |_| |_| |_____| |_____| |_____|  \___/ 
[02:58] <FloodBot3> asdg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:58] <veloc1ty> no idea what else is is
[02:58] <jeremy> If somebody would be willing to take a look at my model somewhere online and guide me through it
[02:58] <jeremy> Please
[02:58] <cdeszaq2> jeremy: Try to get to it...if you can, then your motherboard is ok, and it is probably some other piece of hardware
[02:58] <deten1> Hi, anyone know about sound issues in 8.10 x86?
[02:58] <n0chi> so its something in my router perhaps?
[02:58] <veloc1ty> maybe
[02:59] <veloc1ty> or just a temporary issue
[02:59] <veloc1ty> the website is working
[02:59] <n0chi> nah its been going on for a while now
[02:59] <magtom2003> Need some direction if possbile...Just installed 32 bit version of 8.10.  Loving it, but I'm rather new and It keeps locking up on me with no error message...how can I trouble shoot?
[02:59] <gu_> onetinsoldier: wait a minute sorry i'll go to xchat with name thebloggu
[02:59] <n0chi> ive just been using windows for that
[02:59] <deten1> Hi, anyone know about sound issues in 8.10 x86?
[02:59] <n0chi> but really would like to get it to work here
[02:59] <n0chi> hehe
[02:59] <veloc1ty> is it working in windows?
[02:59] <jtaji> !ops | asdg
[02:59] <n0chi> yea
[02:59] <cdeszaq2> jeremy: To get into the bios, on startup pres the Del, or F12 key. There may also be text on the initial screen saying something like "press Del to enter setup"...follow that instruction
[02:59] <veloc1ty> well that's strange
[02:59] <deten1> Hi, anyone know about sound issues in 8.10 x86?
[03:00] <n0chi> indeed
[03:00] <jeremy> cdeszaq2: No, I can't do that, because on startup there is no graphic screen
[03:00] <jeremy> it
[03:00] <jeremy> is all glitchy and blotchty
[03:00] <cdeszaq2> jeremy: Do you have a separate graphics card, or integrated on the motherboard?
[03:00] <doktordeathray> hi there just wondering: In terminal how can I get a readout of my system so that I can email it to someone
[03:00] <jeremy> cdeszaq2: Integrated, as far as I know
[03:00] <cdeszaq2> doktordeathray: What part of your system?
[03:00] <aib>  i'm trying to install svn pecl. the linker complains that it can't find libopcodes-2.18.so, or libbfd-2.18 in /usr/lib. they are both there, but they named like so, 'libbfd-2.18.93.20081009.so' and 'libopcodes-2.18.93.20081009.so'
[03:00] <veloc1ty> n0chi, type "less /etc/hosts" in your terminal
[03:00] <aib> i tried making appropriate symlinks but it ended up crashing gcc
[03:00] <veloc1ty> ist there anything in there?
[03:00] <doktordeathray> the specs
[03:01] <veloc1ty> regarding the bu.edu
[03:01] <shader42> anyone know how to reset mysql if you forget the user's password?
[03:01] <deten1> Hi, I need some help with sound in ubuntu 8.10 x86.  My sound doesnt work below 55% volume level.
[03:01] <cdeszaq2> jeremy: Do you plug the monitor cord into a port that is paralell to the long dimension of the computer case, or perpendicular to it?
[03:01] <n0chi> just says connecting to it failed
[03:01] <dgarr> doktordeathray: cat /proc/cpuinfo;cat /proc/meminfo
[03:01] <jeremy> No no, it's a laptop
[03:01] <doktordeathray> thanks
[03:01] <onetinsoldier> doktordeathray:  lspci -vv > file_name
[03:01] <jeremy> presario r3000
[03:02] <n0chi> i guess i should try it at work or someone elses home and see if its my router or what
[03:02] <veloc1ty> have you tried the "less /etc/hosts" thing?
[03:02] <n0chi> thanks for your help!
[03:02] <n0chi> nope
[03:02] <veloc1ty> you're welcome :)
[03:02] <n0chi> think that might help?
[03:02] <chris_> I have a question!
[03:02] <deten1> Hi, I need some help with sound in ubuntu 8.10 x86.  My sound doesnt work below 55% volume level
[03:02] <jeremy> !ask | chris
[03:02] <veloc1ty> you just need to check if something is in there
[03:02] <cdeszaq2> jeremy: Then there is nothing you can do, other than take it to a repair shop. It seems that your hardware got zapped somehow....you can try starting the machine and pressing Del or F12, and see if you get taken somewhere else, but otherwise, your are out of luck
[03:02] <chris_> For some reason when I booted up my Ubuntu 8.10 64bit today, 'm only getting sound out of my Left speaker, this also applies for my headphones.
[03:02] <chris_> Can anyone help me?
[03:03] <neutral> onetinsoldier, came back sorry
[03:03] <skz0r> anyone know how to access usb devices in ubuntu?
[03:03] <n0chi> where exactly? hehe
[03:03] <rootsnatch> chris_: are you sure the sound mixer has right and left up?
[03:03] <Boohbah> why has the latest update caused firefox to suck so hard?
[03:03] <onetinsoldier> neutral: ok, roger. this is thebloggu?
[03:03] <veloc1ty> skz0r, plug them in and click on places > your device
[03:03] <neutral> onetinsoldier, (sorry i'm thebloggu)
[03:03] <onetinsoldier> k
[03:03] <neutral> onetinsoldier, yes
[03:03] <Remedial> jeremy: How old is the laptop?
[03:03] <chris_> I only use Font (for my monitor) and Side for my Microphone.
[03:03] <chris_> *fron
[03:03] <chris_> *FRONT
[03:04] <jeremy> Remedial: I don't know, but my dad just got it back from the repair shop
[03:04] <neutral> onetinsoldier, what can i do now ? pastebin my xorg.conf ?
[03:04] <jeremy> they cleaned it all off and fixed it up and everything
[03:04] <deten1> Hi, I need some help with sound in ubuntu 8.10 x86.  My sound doesnt work below 55% volume level, I have a sony Laptop VGN-FE790P
[03:04] <chris_> I also tried rebooting, and making sure there plugged in properly.
[03:04] <magtom2003> what could cause lockups?
[03:04] <onetinsoldier> neutral: you downgraded? you didn't do a fresh install of 8.04?
[03:04] <neutral> onetinsoldier, did a fresh install
[03:04] <jeremy> I can't imagine that in the 5 minutes I spent doing NOTHING while signed into XP before turning it off and rebooting to install ubuntu, I did ANYTHING to affect it
[03:04] <fungo> i'm using ubuntu 2.6.24-22 but git tells me that 2.6.24-19.36 is the latest
[03:04] <fungo> for hardy*
[03:04] <Jimi_Hendrix> how would ubuntu react to a sudden complete change in hardware?
[03:05] <fungo> is it right?
[03:05] <magnetron> Jimi_Hendrix→ how sudden?
[03:05] <onetinsoldier> neutral: ok. yeah, let's see your xorg.conf file
[03:05] <deten1> how do I remove old linux boot options when I get updated kernel
[03:05] <magnetron> Jimi_Hendrix→ the PCI bus isn't really hot-swappable, you know
[03:05] <Remedial> jeremy: I doubt you did anything to your machine
[03:05] <rootsnatch> deten1: look in your /boot/grub/menu.list
[03:05] <chris_> Weird, I changed my Master up a tad bit, and it started working again *shrugS*
[03:06] <ryoung786> Hi all, I have a pretty generic question: where should I put apps I've compiled from source?
[03:06] <deten1> rootsnatch: does that remove the old files or just the boot option?
[03:06] <Flannel> deten1: Remove the old kernels through your favorite package management tool (linux-image-[version])
[03:06] <Flannel> ryoung786: /usr/local/
[03:06] <onetinsoldier> ryoung786: as in where should you unpack them? or...?
[03:06] <magnetron> ryoung786→ in /usr/local/bin
[03:06] <ryoung786> As an example, I'm building emacs for the first time, and wondering the best place to put the resulting files
[03:06] <rootsnatch> deten1: boot option, or ya you can use what Flannel said and apt-get remove the linux image
[03:06] <jeremy> Remedial: I do too, but the fact is that no matter what I've tried, I can't turn it on without the graphic glitch
[03:06] <Jimi_Hendrix> magnetron, everything but the harddrive
[03:06] <Flannel> ryoung786: It'd be inside of /usr/local/ but emacs is in the repositories, why are you building it?
[03:07] <onetinsoldier> ryoung786: yeah, what they all said... /usr/local area
[03:07] <ryoung786> right, I wanted to get some nice anti-aliased fonts
[03:07] <Remedial> jeremy: it sounds like something electronic is giving out or gave out
[03:07] <jeremy> like?
[03:07] <magnetron> Jimi_Hendrix→ you'll be rebooting between? will you be switching brands of graphics cards?
[03:07] <hml> i have 32bit gcc working. I need to build a 32bit freetype. What is the right way to do this?
[03:07] <ryoung786> so what's the difference between /usr/local and /usr/local/bin?
[03:07] <cdeszaq2> jeremy: With laptops, once they die, it is time to buy a new one...you can get a damn good one now for under $500
[03:07] <neutral> http://paste.ubuntu.com/91314/
[03:08] <hml> i have 32bit gcc working. I need to build a 32bit freetype. What is the right way to do this? how can I configure it to use -m32 for gcc / linking, and to tell it to install into /usr/libi32
[03:08] <neutral> onetinsoldier, see link above
[03:08] <Jimi_Hendrix> magnetron, no i will not be
[03:08] <Remedial> jeremy: motherboard, graphic chip
[03:08] <Jimi_Hendrix> both ATI
[03:08] <Flannel> ryoung786: /usr/local/ is where all of the stuff goes, /usr/local/bin is just where the binary stuffs go.
[03:08] <deten1> flannel: should i remove it or do a complete removal?  will either one create an issue?
[03:08] <Jimi_Hendrix> one a few years older though
[03:08] <jeremy> cdeszaq2: It's not that old, and it's $2000 bucks, I'm not geting a new one
[03:08] <onetinsoldier> ryoung786: /usr/local/bin is in what's call your PATH   echo "$PATH"
[03:08] <onetinsoldier> called*
[03:08] <Flannel> deten1: Either one will be fine.  complete removal is what you'll want though (leaves less behind)
[03:08] <cdeszaq2> jeremy: well, how long ago did you get it back from the repair shop?
[03:08] <onetinsoldier> neutral: ok, i'l have a look
[03:09] <jeremy> My dad got it back I think within the week
[03:09] <SunmanXI1> hey i have a question about lm-sensors
[03:09] <cdeszaq2> jeremy: most repair shops have some small length warenty on their work if they are worth their salt
[03:09] <tonsofpcs> hmm... is there a way I can start an XDMCP login in a new vt [8 mayhaps] ?
[03:09] <jeremy> OK
[03:09] <Flannel> !compile | ryoung786
[03:09] <ryoung786> cool, so my path has some other dirs in it as well, like /usr/local/sbin
[03:09] <neutral> onetinsoldier, it as generated form nvidia-xconfig but after that my monitor said it couldnt handle it so i remove the lines from horizontal and vertical refresh
[03:09] <jeremy> I'll go call my dad and ask him
[03:09] <jeremy> BRB
[03:09] <magnetron> Jimi_Hendrix→ then you should probably be very fine. what you might want to do the first time you boot into the new system, is that you want to run the "hardware drivers manager". it will help you install any drivers needed, if it wasn't done automatically at boot
[03:09] <ryoung786> sbin for "shared"?
[03:09] <deten1> Hi, I need some help with sound in ubuntu 8.10 x86.  My volume goes to zero at 55% volume level (not 0%), I have a sony Laptop VGN-FE790P
[03:10] <onetinsoldier> neutral: ok, roger. i'mnot sure how much i can help with this tho
[03:10] <SunmanXI1> i have an inspiron laptop and the lm-sensors can only detect the coretemp sensor and nothing else - but i want to know the fanspeed and hd temperature. i know that lm-sensors can do that - how can i ?
[03:10] <Flannel> ryoung786: /usr/local/ is the place for "locally" installed stuff (stuff you installed yourself) and the filestructure mirrors the structure from the non-local stuff, where package management puts its stuff.
[03:10] <neutral> onetinsoldier, no problem
[03:10] <joeb3_> deten1, open the sound mixer and check the PCM  level.
[03:10] <neutral> ikonia, you there ?
[03:10] <Jimi_Hendrix> magnetron, will the keyboard and mouse work?
[03:10] <rodney_> hello
[03:10] <deten1> joeb3_: which mixer? pulseaudio or the gnome-sound applet
[03:11] <onetinsoldier> neutral: what about trying the Xorg -configure method i had you try before?
[03:11] <rodney_> somebody speaks spanish?
[03:11] <joeb3_> deten1, gnome alsa mixer
[03:11] <neutral> onetinsoldier, ok, stop x then Xorg -configure ?
[03:11] <cdeszaq2> rodney_:  Un poco. Que necesitas?
[03:11] <magnetron> Jimi_Hendrix→ as i said, you'll probably be fine. i'm not selling you any guarantees though. i can't see why it wouldn't work, i've swapped mouse and keyboards even while running.
[03:11] <onetinsoldier> neutral: makea backup of your current xorg.conf file first
[03:11] <Jimi_Hendrix> lol ok
[03:12] <rodney_> tengo un tx1120 y no puedo hacer funcionar la webcam en ubuntu 8.10
[03:12] <gizmo> why using bit torent is slow..
[03:12] <deten1> joeb3_: gnome-alsamixer is not currently installed according to terminal
[03:12] <onetinsoldier> neutral: yes. do you need the instructions again?
[03:12] <neutral> onetinsoldier, ok
[03:12] <ryoung786> ok, so last question -- how do i specify where to put the src + binaries, now that I know they should be in /usr/local and /usr/local/bin , respectively
[03:12] <joeb3_> deten1, If you don't have another mixer, install it.
[03:12] <neutral> onetinsoldier, no thank you, i know them i think :P
[03:12] <onetinsoldier> neutral: ok, cool
[03:12] <RealKillaz_> guys I want to setup a tvcard. I read that I have to run the command modprobe saa7134 card=#number_of_card
[03:12] <deten1> joeb3_: this is a fresh install of 8.10 x86, is there one that comes with it?
[03:12] <RealKillaz_> how can I verify if something has changed?
[03:12] <cdeszaq2> rodney_: No hay mucho webcam que funciona en ubuntu :( lo siento
[03:12] <magnetron> gizmo→ if your torrent in question have few seeders, it will be very slow. also, make sure you have a port open for uploading will speed up your downloads
[03:13] <rodney_> bueno, gracias de todos modos..., seguire probando...!
[03:13] <gizmo> magnetron, what port?
[03:13] <yowshi> anyone here know anything about hamachi?
[03:13] <joeb3_> deten1, I don't think it is installed by default
[03:13] <skz0r> I NEED SOME HELP PLEASE!
[03:13] <deten1> okay i will install gnome-alsamixer since I know of no others
[03:13] <cdeszaq2> does anyone here know much about webcam support in ubuntu, or where one might go for more info?
[03:13] <SunmanXI1> can anyon anwer my question about lm-sensors
[03:13] <magnetron> gizmo→ the port that's set in the Transmission settings. it will tell you if the port is open or not.
[03:14] <gizmo> have to open it?
[03:14] <gizmo> yeah have port in there..
[03:14] <neutral> onetinsoldier, no errors this time :P
[03:14] <magnetron> gizmo→ check the settings. it will tell you if it's open.
[03:14] <cdeszaq2> skz0r: then ask
[03:14] <veloc1ty> skz0r, you just need to plug the drive in and go to places > your device
[03:14] <onetinsoldier> neutral: ahhh, great to hear that :-)
[03:15] <gizmo> the port is not open
[03:15] <pc06> hai...............
[03:15] <magnetron> gizmo→ then you have to find out how to configure your firewall.
[03:15] <cdeszaq2> gizmo: Also, torrents often start slow, and then speed up as you have more to share
[03:15] <skz0r> thank you velocity
[03:15] <onetinsoldier> neutral: try  System --> Preferences --> Screen Resolution  ..or is therer anything like that in 8.04>?
[03:15] <magnetron> gizmo→ you want to do a "port forwarding" to your computer for that port
[03:15] <veloc1ty> you're welcome ;)
[03:16] <cdeszaq2> gizmo: additionally, if you have a slow upload bandwidth, you may also end up limited in how much you download
[03:16] <gizmo> im new in ubuntu..so im not very much know about this..can teach me?
[03:16] <pc06> hai................
[03:16] <gizmo> how to fixed it
[03:16] <magnetron> gizmo→ this is a firewall question, you need to configure your modem/router, not ubuntu
[03:16] <cdeszaq2> gizmo: what are your up/down bandwidths, and also how many peers/seeds are there for the torrent in question?
[03:16] <gizmo> 1 to 2 peer
[03:16] <giaco> do you know how can I speed-up udev when I've compiled all the needed drivers inside the kernel? I need to disable "coldplug"
[03:17] <neutral> onetinsoldier, max 640 480 there as well nvidia-settings
[03:17] <deten1> joeb3_: bear with me, I am working on installing it, a package manager is just finishing
[03:17] <cdeszaq2> gizmo: that is a very weak torrent...find a better one
[03:17] <gizmo> cdeszaq2,  how?
[03:17] <gizmo> i use bit torrent
[03:17] <magnetron> gizmo→ 1 or 2 peers is very little, that will be slow whatever you do. find a torrent with more seeders.
[03:17] <onetinsoldier> neutral: dangit
[03:18] <cdeszaq2> gizmo: a good place to search for torrents is torrentz.com
[03:18] <gizmo> ok..
[03:18] <rebel_kid> this is a dumb question but i cant seem to find the command to generate a proper public/private rsa key pair for ssh
[03:18] <magtom2003> Need some direction if possbile...Just installed 32 bit version of 8.10.  Loving it, but I'm rather new and It keeps locking up on me with no error message...how can I trouble shoot?
[03:18] <joeb3_> rebel_kid, ssh-keygen
[03:18] <magnetron> cdeszaq2→ please, don't link to piracy sites from here. thank you.
[03:18] <cdeszaq2> gizmo: look for torrents that have the content you are looking for, and then select the one with the highest number of peers(aka. leechers) and seeders
[03:18] <zsquareplusc> rebel_kid: ssh-keygen
[03:18] <rebel_kid> zsquareplusc, joeb3_, just that? no arguments?
[03:19] <cdeszaq2> magnetron: it isn't necesarily a pirateing site...I have posted legit open copyright content there
[03:19] <onetinsoldier> neutral: i'm not sure why you just can't seemto get a higher res. let's see the new xorg.conf file you have
[03:19] <joeb3_> rebel_kid, that will create with defaults.  Use man ssh-keygen to see the options
[03:19] <rebel_kid> ty jo
[03:19] <deten1> joeb3_: gnome-alsamixer is done, and open
[03:19] <magnetron> cdeszaq2→ i know, but if someone finds out there are links to that site, the whole Freenode network could get in trouble.
[03:20] <rebel_kid> ty joeb3_
[03:20] <joeb3_> deten1, is the PCM level at the top?
[03:20] <Suhail> I did sudo adduser git but I can't login as the user, any simple reason why?
[03:20] <neutral> onetinsoldier, http://paste.ubuntu.com/91321
[03:20] <joeb3_> rebel_kid, np
[03:20] <zsquareplusc> rebel_kid: alternatively apps->addons->paddwords new, ssh key
[03:20] <deten1> joeb3_: no, but it is now
[03:20] <cdeszaq2> magnetron: yeah, I know...would it be better to tell someone to google the domain of the website, and leave off the TLD"
[03:20] <cdeszaq2> ?*
[03:20] <joeb3_> deten1, check your sound now
[03:20] <joeb3_> Suhail, sudo passwd git
[03:21] <Suhail> joeb3_: "Permission denied"
[03:21] <deten1> joeb3_: what is the horizontal bar underneath pcm thats right in the middle?
[03:21] <magnetron> cdeszaq2→ that'd be the same, i think. answering "any search engine can help you find torrents" is what i do.
[03:22] <cdeszaq2> magnetron: k
[03:22] <joeb3_> deten1, balance -- left and right
[03:22] <Suhail> The password is right, any idea why I cna't login as a user that I did sudo adduser for?
[03:22] <deten1> joeb3_: okay its still doing the same thing
[03:23] <venger> just recently done a fresh install of ibex and one of the things I notice now is that the fonts in firefox have changed.  The are smaller and look to be a different font altogether but i really can't say what fonts were used now versus on hardy.  is anyone else noticing this?  right now i'm just hitting ctrl-+ to upsize the font as needed
[03:23] <Administrator> I am trying to to set up my ubuntu 8.1 installation so that I can get display resolutions greater than 800x600.  I have followed help from forums to get my Intel graphics card to work right with the OS but each time I get a message upon restart saying "ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode....(EE) No devices detected".  Does anyone know how to fix this?
[03:23] <gizmo> how 24 to 38 peer?
[03:23] <gizmo> is it ok?
[03:23] <deten1> joeb3_: I am going to try to restart, ill be right back
[03:23] <joeb3_> deten1, does the app playing the sound have a seperate volume control.
[03:23] <cdeszaq2> gizmo: a great torrent will be in the hundreds, if not thousands...that many...will be slow still
[03:24] <deten1> joeb3_:yes and its maxed
[03:24] <onetinsoldier> neutral: well, that looks pretty good to me there. at first glance it looks like a very good xorg.conf file. but i'm not really an expert on the file
[03:24] <joeb3_> deten1, k
[03:24] <gizmo> cdeszaq2, im found the movei in torrentz.com
[03:24] <gizmo> *movie
[03:24] <neutral> onetinsoldier, thank you once again
[03:24] <WebcamWonder> Guys, doing a sudo apt-get build-dep pidgin, just returns me an error saying the build-dependencies could not be satisfied, any clues?
[03:25] <drumstyk11> i just did a fresh install of 8.10, connected to the internet through wireless, installed updates, rebooted, and now the wireless won't work... has anyone ever heard of this?
[03:25] <hml> where's the 32bit chroot faq?
[03:25] <musikgoat|main> WebcamWonder: have you sudo apt-get update  lately?
[03:25] <onetinsoldier> neutral: you did put that xorg.conf file into place 'before' you restarted x-windows back up didn't you?
[03:25] <Flannel> !chroot | hml
[03:25] <WebcamWonder> musikgoat|main: Yup... I will do it again if you want me to, hold on
[03:25] <cdeszaq2> gizmo: look around at other trackers on the internet, google is a good way to find them. Also, look up bit torrent in wikipedia if you want to know more about how bittorrent works
[03:25] <musikgoat|main> WebcamWonder: just an initial check
[03:25] <neutral> onetinsoldier, yes
[03:25] <WebcamWonder> musikgoat|main: Nope
[03:26] <gizmo> cdeszaq2, as i told you..im new..and my english is not very good..so if i can have step by step toturial..k?
[03:26] <neutral> CAN PLEASE HELP ME AND INETINSOLDIER ? we are trying for hours and hours with no success to use my geforce4 ti 4200 on 8.04.1 (now tried 8.10 even worse). xorg.conf is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/91321/
[03:27] <neutral> onetinsoldier, sorry :P mispelled your name
[03:27] <hml> how do i get the name of my current ubuntu disto, like fiesty or hardy or etc ..
[03:27] <FiReSTaRT> ok why would 8.10-server install fail to get grub into the mbr?
[03:27] <joeb3_> hml, lsb_release -a
[03:27] <Flannel> hml: 8.10 is Intrepid Ibex
[03:27] <onetinsoldier> neutral: btw, you're welcome. hmmm, i trying to think of what might be worng. but you'd better make up a one-liner describing you problem/situation to post to the room, and what graphics card an monitor you have. include a link to your pastebin.= for the xorg.conf file.
[03:28] <WebcamWonder> Does anyone have any idea with regards to what packages a build-dep pulls in?
[03:28] <cdeszaq2> gizmo: There really isn't much "step by step" to it...just look for higher numbers of perrs/seeds. If that is the highest you can find, then that is the best torrent available for the content you are after
[03:28] <FiReSTaRT> does it have anything to do with the disk being run off a secondary ide controller?
[03:28] <hml> joeb3_ , Flannel : thanks
[03:28] <neutral> onetinsoldier, the one i made dinst enough ?
[03:29] <onetinsoldier> neutral: yes.. i am slow typer... it looks ok. except, don't use caps
[03:29] <Haberdasdher> Greetings
[03:29] <gizmo> i dont understand about peer / seeds.
[03:29] <neutral> onetinsoldier, i know -_- i just need atention
[03:29] <musikgoat|main> WebcamWonder: i believe -s will show you what would be installed
[03:30] <onetinsoldier> neutral: just keep posting that every 3-5 minutes. also, lets see the output of your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file
[03:30] <cdeszaq2> gizmo: peers are other people who have partially downloaded the content, and so are uploading while they continue to download, while seeds are people who have the full content already downloaded and are only uploading it
[03:30] <zerodevice> does anyone knows how do i setup the bluetooth correctly and do file transfer
[03:30] <Haberdasdher> Would anyone mind helping me uninstall Grub? Something went horribly wrong with my ubuntu installation. D:
[03:30] <musikgoat|main> apt-get build-dep -s pidgin
[03:30] <cdeszaq2> Haberdasdher: are there any other OSs on the machine?
[03:30] <gizmo> cdeszaq2, if the download is slow..what the affect?
[03:30] <Haberdasdher> Yes, I have vista installed
[03:30] <giaco> do you know how can I disable the modules autoload during startup?
[03:30] <WebcamWonder> musikgoat|main: Nope, it doesn't
[03:30] <zerodevice> my problem is that i've tried many times from all the articles googled
[03:30] <zerodevice> but no luck
[03:31] <deten> joeb3_: okay I am back, still the same problem.  My audio goes out for every program, savage 2, youtube, rhythmbox, wine, etc at around 55% volume.  Here is a picture to see what I mean http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/Deten/zerovolume.png
[03:31] <cdeszaq2> Haberdasdher: install another version of windows, any other one, and it's version of GRUB will overwrite grub
[03:31] <neutral> onetinsoldier, http://paste.ubuntu.com/91328/
[03:31] <cdeszaq2> gizmo: what do you mean? Are you asking why is it slow?
[03:31] <Haberdasdher> Alright, thanks, I have an XP CD laying around. =)
[03:31] <gizmo> yeah
[03:31] <gizmo> i dont know where to check the seed/peer
[03:32] <onetinsoldier> neutral: ok, i'm looking it over
[03:32] <cdeszaq2> Haberdasdher: yeah, windows is good for something...it is good at stomping on everything else
[03:32] <veloc1ty> gizmo, you should try to get a documentary in your language
[03:32] <Haberdasdher> I somehow installed my ubuntu without a kernel or something D:
[03:32] <Haberdasdher> And the Grub part of the installation had some weird error, lol
[03:32] <Haberdasdher> Thanks though, I'll try it out
[03:32] <veloc1ty> that'll explain you what bittorrent is, how to improve your speed and what else you need to know
[03:32] <docmur> anyone here use Rapget on wine with any results
[03:32] <docmur> actually any rapid share program with a time waiting will work
[03:32] <venger> musikgoat|main, does apt-cache showpkg <pkgname> list similar depends to what a build-dep would produce?
[03:32] <zerodevice> NEED HELP IN FILE TRANSFER FOR BLUETOOTH IN UBUNTU 8.04. -- i've tried most of the pages that i've googled, but none- worked... going to start a new fresh step, what do i do after i uninstall every bluetooth related files?
[03:32] <cdeszaq2> Haberdasdher: odd... have you tried simply re-installing ubuntu? chances are it will fix any issues, and repair grub it it is broken
[03:32] <veloc1ty> docmur, i use jdownloader
[03:32] <cdeszaq2> Haberdasdher: probably safer than relying on mickysoft
[03:33] <veloc1ty> works extremely well with linux
[03:33] <wubrgamer> is this ubuntu or unbut-unregged?
[03:33] <wubrgamer> i'm confused
[03:33] <joeb3_> deten, ask again and see if someone else can help.
[03:33] <arzen1013> hi , how to jail a user on ubuntu ?
[03:33] <Aframester> mickysoft lol
[03:33] <docmur> okay can I make it use a time out of like 15 min
[03:33] <docmur> cause I do this though a free account
[03:33] <veloc1ty> it does that automatically
[03:33] <docmur> okay
[03:33] <arzen1013> I try install jail , but can't work on ubuntu, who can help me ?
[03:34] <WebcamWonder> venger: That is a really bad way to list packages... my eyes are paining now
[03:34] <musikgoat|main> venger, thanks, that shows it cleanly
[03:34] <veloc1ty> www.jdownloader.org is the homepage, you'll need java support
[03:34] <cdeszaq2> Aframester: what? whier software runs as if it were written by cartoons!
[03:34] <Suhail> I did apt-get install git but for some reason: git: command not found
[03:34] <neutral> i am using ubuntu 8.04.1 and a geforce4 ti 4200. i have been trying for hours to have a normal resolution with no success. support in 8.10 for the card is even worse. i am using binary nvidia drivers and maximum resolution is 640 by 480. my xorg.conf is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/91321/ and my Xorg.0.log is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/91328/
[03:34] <docmur> I don't normally use Ubuntu in fact this is the first time in a long time I'm an arch user, if I apt-get install sun-java6-jre will I have the right java package
[03:34] <venger> WebcamWonder, use awk or perl if you must have it formatted =)
[03:34] <veloc1ty> you will, yes
[03:35] <onetinsoldier> neutral: i don't really know, but i wonder if this has something to do with your not being able to get a higher resolution..  (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-1  -->  (WW) NVIDIA(0): No modes were requested; the default mode "nvidia-auto-select" will be used as the requested mode.
[03:35] <GMWeezel> what's a good program for accessing my laptop's camera?
[03:35] <Flannel> Suhail: You want git-core
[03:35] <Suhail> What did I install then?
[03:35] <deten> Hi, I have a sound issue in ubuntu 8.10 x86.  At around 55% volume setting I get no sound from any programs, youtube, rhythmbox, savage 2, wine apps etc.  Here is a picture of where it happens http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/Deten/zerovolume.png .  Any help would be appreciated!
[03:35] <neutral> onetinsoldier, probably, since my monitor is lcd and it detects as crt
[03:35] <Suhail> Flannel: What did I install then?
[03:36] <magnetron> deten→ are you using speakers or headphones?
[03:36] <jkristheking> how do i uninstall the brightness ap PLEASE PM ME
[03:36] <Flannel> !info gnuit | Suhail
[03:36] <deten> magnetron: speakers currently, but it happens in both
[03:36] <Suhail> Flannel: git -> guint? lol
[03:37] <tyler_d> how do I enable remote desktop from an ssh session?
[03:37] <cdeszaq2> deten: does it fade out smoothly, or just cut out?
[03:37] <magnetron> deten→ if you double click the speaker icon in the upper corner, it should give you a mixer. tried adjusting those sound levels?
[03:37] <deten> cdeszaq2: smoothly
[03:37] <cdeszaq2> tyler_d: google for ssh + x11 forewarding
[03:37] <tyler_d> ie. I have ssh'd into the box, and just need to log into the gnome session
[03:37] <Flannel> Suhail: Yeah.
[03:37] <arzen1013> anyother similar software for jail user on ubuntu ?
[03:37] <jkristheking> anyone wanna help me? i need to uninstall the brightness app on ubuntu 8.10!?!?!?! pm me if you can help this is a serious bug for me and others
[03:37] <deten> magnetron: pcm is max the only other option is master, which is the one that cuts out at 55%
[03:38] <userbn> r54rt
[03:38] <earthmeLon> Hey guys!  Is it just me, or does extracting from rar's take longer under Linux?
[03:38] <cdeszaq2> deten: ok, go to system, preferences, sound
[03:38] <deten> cdeszaq2: there
[03:38] <WebcamWonder> musikgoat|main: Is there anyway to turn on notification as to where it is failing to get the build-dep?
[03:39] <magnetron> deten→ try to enable to show all options in the mixer. see if there is any option for choosing between "headphones" or "line out"
[03:39] <cdeszaq2> deten: what sound driver are you running under?
[03:39] <neutral> i am using ubuntu 8.04.1 and a geforce4 ti 4200. i have been trying for hours to have a normal resolution with no success. support in 8.10 for the card is even worse. i am using binary nvidia drivers and maximum resolution is 640 by 480 and my lcd monitor is recognized as crt. my xorg.conf is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/91321/ and my Xorg.0.log is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/91328/
[03:39] <musikgoat|main> -v for verbose WebcamWonder
[03:39] <deten> cdeszaq2: all autodetect except sound capture is alsa and device is Alsa PCM
[03:39] <drumstyk11> i just did a fresh install of 8.10, connected to the internet through wireless, installed updates, rebooted, and now the wireless won't work... has anyone ever heard of this?
[03:39] <deten> cdeszaq2: fresh install of 8.10 so whatever it comes with :)
[03:39] <drumstyk11> i would love any ideas
[03:39] <deten> magnetron: i will try that right now
[03:39] <onetinsoldier> neutral: just keep posting your message every several minutes, with both pastebin links!! and good description of problem(my lcd is detected as a crt, ect.) and be patient. it may take quite some time, but eventually someone will probably have a look and might be able to figure something out
[03:40] <WebcamWonder> And that is completely useless, it shows me some twisted form of help... never mind I give up on compiling
[03:40] <magnetron> deten→ i'm off to bed, good luck
[03:40] <sean_> hello
[03:40] <deten> magnetron: thanks anyways
[03:40] <Flannel> onetinsoldier, neutral: "every several minutes" -- He means 15-25
[03:40] <onetinsoldier> Flannel: hehe
[03:40] <cdeszaq2> deten: I had massive sound troubles too, and to get mine working, I had to go through OSS drivers, and then play with alsamixer at the command line to get any sound at all...but now I have full 7.1
[03:40] <neutral> onetinsoldier, thank you
[03:40] <GMWeezel> what's a good program for accessing my laptop's camera?
[03:41] <neutral> Flannel, dont worry i wont flood
[03:41] <deten> cdeszaq2: you suggest I change them to oss from autodetect?  Are you running oss 4?
[03:41] <magnetron> GMWeezel→ cheese!
[03:41] <onetinsoldier> neutral: you're welcome. what kind monitor do you have again?
[03:41] <mac> Hello all, would anyone be able to assist me in getting a ubuntu server to route in a weird way?
[03:41] <venger> neutral, are you using some acer panel?
[03:41] <cdeszaq2> deten: So, you could try using alsamixer -c 0 at the command line...you may have to change the number from 0 if you have more than one sound card
[03:41] <Administrator> how do i figure out what my laptop screen is?
[03:41] <tyler_d> mac: define wierd
[03:41] <neutral> onetinsoldier, Samsung SyncMaster710N
[03:41] <deten> cdeszaq2: its a laptop with only one soundcard
[03:41] <onetinsoldier> neutral: roger
[03:41] <GMWeezel> magnetron: thanks
[03:42] <neutral> venger, no i think, what do you mean by panel ?
[03:42] <jkristheking> anyone wanna help me? i need to uninstall the brightness app on ubuntu 8.10!?!?!?! pm me if you can help this is a serious bug for me and others
[03:42] <sean_> I installed ubuntu
[03:42] <cdeszaq2> deten: if you are getting sound now, try leaving them and messing with what you can find in alsamixer...if that doesn't work, cycle through the different sound driver options, and repeat messing with alsamixer (don't bother with the drivers that give you no sound at all)
[03:42] <venger> neutral, LCD panel, anyway you answered, i've seen where some acers fail like yours did regarding EDID (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-1
[03:42] <sean_> and for some reason it installed 2  versions
[03:42] <cdeszaq2> deten: since it is a lappy, -c 0 should get the card
[03:43] <sean_> one of which the default, doesnt  boot
[03:43] <mac> I have 3 pcs on the same subnet.  I want to use a ubuntu box as a "middle Man" between the other two because I'm going to use the tc command to muddle up the network
[03:43] <mac> kind of like wanem
[03:43] <sean_> is there a way to delete that?
[03:43] <gizmo> the normal time for d/l movie using bit torrent is how many hours?
[03:43] <neutral> venger, it's Samsung :)
[03:43] <sean_> it can boot on 2 different ubuntu 8.xxx.whatevers
[03:44] <Org-Mode> !enter
[03:44] <cdeszaq2> gizmo: any where from sub 30 mins to a week
[03:44] <sean_> but the -11 is actually not there
[03:44] <Aframester> lol
[03:44] <Aframester> oops
[03:44] <sean_> also this is a laptop (a classmate 2go pc)
[03:44] <gizmo> lol cdeszaq2  so i have problem with my download..
[03:44] <cdeszaq2> mac: so what is the problem?
[03:44] <gizmo> how to figure it..?
[03:45] <gizmo> help me........
[03:45] <sean_> and it seems the hibernate never boots up, ever
[03:45] <FiReSTaRT> i did a fresh install of ubuntu server.. for some reason it wouldn't load either grub or lilo, so now it has some sort of a boot menu but i don't know the exact command or how to find which kernel to load
[03:45] <jkristheking> how do i disable the brightness app? EX: fn+ page up = brightness up. my bios aready suports this and i wanna disable the ubnuntu one
[03:45] <sean_> i used the iso image at ubuntu
[03:45] <mac> I'm clueless really, I have no idea how to turn on routing in linux - I'm a bit of a newb
[03:45] <gizmo> can anyone help me how to check my firewall?
[03:45] <cdeszaq2> gizmo: it all depends on a number of factors, like number of seeds, your upload and download connection, number of peers, and tons of little tweaky things in the client you are using
[03:46] <sean_> but anyway how do  i delete a  boot?
[03:46] <mac> also I have to turn off the firewall I think - because it kills all traffic by default?
[03:46] <deten> cdeszaq2: for sound playback I have a bunch of options:  autodetect, HDA intel STAC92xx Analog (alsa), HDA intel STAC92xx Analog (oss), HDA intel STAC92xx Analog (oss) [another one], ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture,  OSS Open Sound System, PulseAudio Sound Driver.
[03:46] <cdeszaq2> gizmo: if you are able to download and upload at all, it it isn't your firewall
[03:46] <sean_> i am giving it to my nephews and having the default boot not boot is t4errib le
[03:46] <cdeszaq2> gizmo: I suggest using Vuze (formerly azureus) for a bit torrent client
[03:46] <gizmo> cdeszaq2,  so what is my problem?
[03:46] <WebcamWonder> !offtopic | gizmo
[03:46] <sean_> i would reinstall  but the stupid installer always wants to repartition
[03:46] <FiReSTaRT> does anyone know how to navigate the boot menu in case the boot loader couldn't be installed?
[03:47] <gizmo> cdeszaq2,  i already use it that..but i cant open the window after download.
[03:47] <gizmo> cdeszaq2,  maybe in linux..what the web cdeszaq2
[03:47] <scientes> wehat the h is going on? it seems like my computer suddnly decided to defrag
[03:48] <linn1> could somwonw advise me about installing an intrepid package in hardy
[03:48] <Aframester> Any one familiar with the AWUS036H?
[03:48] <sean_> i want to delete an entry from my boot menu
[03:48] <WebcamWonder> !grub | sean_
[03:48] <deten> cdeszaq2: for sound playback I have a bunch of options:  autodetect, HDA intel STAC92xx Analog (alsa), HDA intel STAC92xx Analog (oss), HDA intel STAC92xx Analog (oss) [another one], ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture,  OSS Open Sound System, PulseAudio Sound Driver.  Which one would you suggest?
[03:48] <sean_> and or clean my partitions except for the windows xp partition
[03:49] <cdeszaq2> deten: ok, so what I did was try each of my options, like the ones you listed, and hit the test button. Then, for each of those that gave me any sound at all, I went into alsamixer and turned each setting to max, and then to 0 while I had music playing. Evaetually, I found a set of sliders that controlled my sound (not pcm I think)
[03:49] <drumstyk11> i just did a fresh install of 8.10, connected to the internet through wireless, installed updates, rebooted, and now the wireless won't work... has anyone ever heard of this? will someone please give me a hand with this?
[03:49] <sean_> how do you get gru b
[03:49] <puff> I'm trying to rsync a large backup directory hierarchy from one disk to another.  I noticed that one large chunk of files was irrelevant, basically beagled's textcache directory, which has a zillion little files.  So I rm'd it. How can I detect what other directories have a very large number of files in them?
[03:50] <cdeszaq2> deten: alsa is best (I think), followed by oss, and then pulse...so that is the order I would try them in
[03:50] <sean_> and why won;t the stupid $@#$#$@# installer let me NOT add endless partitions if i want to reinstall?
[03:50] <Aframester> have you reconfigured your wireless?
[03:50] <Aframester> i had to
[03:50] <deten> cdeszaq2: okay so I have to mix and match alsamixer with the gnome sound preference thing?
[03:50] <Flannel> sean_: endless partitions?  Also, please watch your language and your tone.
[03:50] <drumstyk11> yes, i used the same settings as before
[03:50] <cdeszaq2> deten: alsamixer is (i think) actually the backend to the gnome sound gui
[03:50] <eternaljoy> can I play quake type games on Ubuntu?
[03:50] <WebcamWonder> sean_: It would be helpful if you told us what your problem actually was
[03:51] <Flannel> sean_: Please pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:51] <Andphe> hi, after execute pm-suspend --quirk-none (trying to fix a issue with hibernation),  I lost the 1280x1024 resolution (now is not available), I tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg but it still no go, what can i do, to recover it ?
[03:51] <Elive_user39> okay guys
[03:52] <Elive_user39> who has the craziest taliban name???
[03:52] <Elive_user39> http://taliban.6.43.gs ....
[03:52] <Elive_user39> post your taliban name pls
[03:52] <drumstyk11> does anyone know a command to figure out what my wireless card is?
[03:52] <somethingorigina> hey, was wondering if anyone could lend me a hand. My brothers win XP system running a RAID 0 got an OS corruption beyond fixing but I'm trying to recover data using Ubuntu Live CD; however, cant get the live CD version to recognize the RAID 0
[03:52] <eternaljoy> can I play any good quality games on Ubuntu?
[03:52] <puff> drumstyk11: Check dmesg?
[03:52] <sean_> how do i do that? (paste bin)
[03:52] <Elive_user39> sorry
[03:52] <Elive_user39> but
[03:52] <Administrator> does any one know the cause of getting a grey screen upon bootup?
[03:52] <linn1> could anyonw help me install an intrepid package in hardy pls ? to be more specific the rtorrent 0.8.2 package ?
[03:53] <Elive_user39> Okay, josf, since you now joined the Jihad your official new afghan ibinladen taliban name is:
[03:53] <Elive_user39> FAGHIM BIN FAGHOE
[03:53] <Elive_user39> http://taliban.6.43.gs/?josf
[03:53] <Elive_user39> Do not bring shame over your name!
[03:53] <FloodBot3> Elive_user39: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:53] <Flannel> Elive_user39: This isn't a chat channel, please take it to an appropriate channel
[03:53] <drumstyk11> cool, thanks puff
[03:53] <Flannel> !paste | sean_
[03:53] <deten> is there any effort to simplify sound in ubuntu?
[03:53] <cdeszaq2> somethingorigina: do you know if it was a software or hardware raid?
[03:53] <WebcamWonder> eternaljoy: There are a few available in the repositories
[03:53] <eternaljoy> WebcamWonder: which ones?
[03:53] <cdeszaq2> deten: I think that is what alsa is supposed to be, but unfortunately, nothing seems to work very well
[03:54] <WebcamWonder> eternaljoy: Pull up Add/Remove Programs, and the section on Games
[03:54] <somethingorigina> its the Nvidia RAID thats on an ASUS mobo A8NSLI Deluxe
[03:54] <somethingorigina> correction  A8N 32 SLI Deluxe
[03:54] <gizmo> i already download averaus but i dont know how to install..i dont knowwhere to open arvhive..
[03:54] <gizmo> *archive
[03:54] <cdeszaq2> deten: I lost my sound when I upgraded my kernal recently, as apt suggested, so I had to roll bacl
[03:55] <deten> cdeszaq2: it worked fine in 7.04 :) my first try at ubuntu
[03:55] <drumstyk11> i am still having a heck of a time getting my wireless card to get an IP from my router... it detects my connection and then just searches away
[03:55] <cdeszaq2> deten: yeah, same here...and now it's a pain
[03:55] <neutral> i am using ubuntu 8.04.1 and a geforce4 ti 4200. i have been trying for hours to have a normal resolution with no success. support in 8.10 for the card is even worse. i am using binary nvidia drivers and maximum resolution is 640 by 480 and my lcd monitor is recognized as crt. my xorg.conf is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/91321/ and my Xorg.0.log is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/91328/
[03:55] <sean_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/91336/
[03:55] <cdeszaq2> somethingorigina:  Is the raid configured in the bios?
[03:56] <tjg92> hai
[03:56] <eternaljoy> WebcamWonder: quake?
[03:56] <somethingorigina> yeah
[03:56] <eternaljoy> !quake
[03:56] <gizmo> anyone can help me where to open the download file?
[03:56] <WebcamWonder> eternaljoy: Yeah... you won't find a game like quake under normal repos. See http://www.playdeb.net/ for more info
[03:56] <Songwind> I have a strange problem with DHCP3 server at start up.  There are links in r2.d to the server start script, but it never starts at boot time.
[03:56] <cdeszaq2> somethingorigina: and ubuntu just sees it as two separate drives?
[03:56] <linn1> ﻿could anyone help me install an intrepid package in hardy pls ? to be more specific the rtorrent 0.8.2 package ?
[03:56] <Flannel> sean_: Alright.  You don't have two Ubuntu installs, you just have two kernels.  You installed the first one,and then did an update, and got the second one.  You say the -9 one won't boot properly?
[03:56] <eternaljoy> WebcamWonder: cheers big ears :-)
[03:56] <Songwind> It doesn't fail, as far as I can tell, it just never even runs.  There are no messages in any of the system logs.
[03:56] <deten> is there an autoclean command to remove old boot options instead of synaptic remove and editing the boot.list?
[03:56] <somethingorigina> no actually the computer listing doesn't show the drives at all
[03:57] <peaces> i am trying to convert .daa files to iso using poweriso but I have no idea how to install it after i download and extract the file.  does anyone know how to install and use this?
[03:57] <Flannel> deten: Removing with package management will remove them from the menu.lst
[03:57] <cdeszaq2> gizmo: drag the torrent link and drop it into the vuze window
[03:57] <deten> flannel: I was just curious if there was a command to clean up old files like that
[03:57] <Aframester> Has anyone had an experience with the Alfa Networks AWUS036H wireless adapter with Itnrepid
[03:57] <somethingorigina> I tried the dmraid installer but it doesn't seem to help "sudo apt-get install dmraid"
[03:57] <cdeszaq2> somethingorigina: computer listing...as in the bios, or in ubuntu?
[03:57] <gizmo> cdeszaq2,  i dont know how to install after d/l..
[03:58] <somethingorigina> computer as in the section in ubuntu
[03:58] <Org-Mode> gizmo: whats the name of the file?
[03:58] <cdeszaq2> gizmo: to install vuze or azureus, do sudo apt-get install vuze
[03:58] <gizmo> cdeszaq2,  but i already download it..
[03:59] <cdeszaq2> gizmo: the easiest way to install vuze in ubuntu is through the apt package manager
[03:59] <cdeszaq2> gizmo: if that is what you mean by download, then it is installed
[03:59] <linn1> ﻿could anyone help me install an intrepid package in hardy pls ? to be more specific the rtorrent 0.8.2 package ?
[04:00] <Satisfied> anybody here know a good dvd-ripper/encoder frontend for gnome?
[04:00] <Flannel> !prevu | linn1
[04:00] <cdeszaq2> somethingorigina: do any drives show up?
[04:00] <gizmo> cdeszaq2,  so where is the file of azeraus that i have download just now?
[04:00] <cdeszaq2> gizmo: how did you download it?
[04:00] <the_newbie> I just bought a eee pc, but ubuntu is not recognizing the wireless card, where can I find the drivers?
[04:00] <linn1> ﻿Flannel thx ill take a look :)
[04:00] <somethingorigina> just both CD drives and Filesystem, doesn't show any HDDs
[04:00] <neutral> i am using ubuntu 8.04.1 and a geforce4 ti 4200. i have been trying for hours to have a normal resolution with no success. support in 8.10 for the card is even worse. i am using binary nvidia drivers and maximum resolution is 640 by 480 and my lcd monitor is recognized as crt. my xorg.conf is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/91321/ and my Xorg.0.log is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/91328/
[04:01] <gizmo> frm internet not terminal
[04:01] <peaces> the_newbie: did you check system<administration<hardware drivers?
[04:01] <onetinsoldier> gizmo: how about  apt-get install vuze, it depends on azureus... or just try   apt-get install azureus
[04:02] <gizmo> ok..
[04:02] <gizmo> now it d/l from termianl
[04:02] <gizmo> *terminal
[04:02] <cdeszaq2> somethingorigina: ok, here is what I would do...get an alternate install CD, and "fake" install ubuntu. Once you get to the disk partitioning screen, you can see if ubuntu will recognize the raid setup. If not, you may need to look for a different solution
[04:02] <cdeszaq2> gizmo: just to sudo apt-get install vuze....it will make everything simpler
[04:02] <the_newbie> peaces, yes, and it shows the hardware under restricted drivers
[04:02] <gizmo> ok
[04:02] <giaco> do you know how can I disable the modules autoload during startup?
[04:02] <the_newbie> peaces, but when I do ifconfig, there is no network adapter
[04:03] <Songwind> somethingorigina: Do the drives show up in gparted?
[04:03] <somethingorigina> so don'tactually install just walk far enough to see if its recognized, will do.
[04:03] <gogzmer> Songwind: good point...forgot about that!
[04:03] <gogzmer> somethingorigina: yeah, that was what I was saying...don't let it go past the drive partitioning phase
[04:03] <peaces> the_newbie: and i'm assuming that you enabled that driver?  and try running lspci -v and see if it shows your card in there
[04:03] <Songwind> somethingorigina: They won't show up in computer:// until there are actually partitions on them.
[04:04] <gogzmer> Songwind: the problem is that they were raid0ed
[04:04] <lasts> hi :)
[04:04] <onetinsoldier> !welcome | lasts
[04:04] <Songwind> gogzmer:  ah.  Yeah, that can be a problem.
[04:04] <gogzmer> Songwind: so, as far as ubuntu cares, there are just junk bits
[04:04] <lasts> I've upgraded my version of ubuntu to intrepid
[04:04] <the_newbie> peaces, yes, it is there
[04:05] <lasts> and hm, I've got some issues with my keyboard/mouse
[04:05] <gogzmer> Songwind: there is probably a partition on each, and an mbr somewhere, but that's it
[04:05] <pan> is there a way to install ubuntu linux in windows xp?
[04:05] <lasts> *I have
[04:05] <pan> using ubunt ucd
[04:05] <pan> ubuntu cd
[04:05] <gogzmer> pan: what do you mean?
[04:05] <Flannel> pan: Yeah.  It's called wubi, and it's on the desktop CD. Just put the CD in when youve got windows running.
[04:05] <babaha> ?
[04:05] <lasts> the altgr and the left/down on my keyboard are not responding
[04:05] <pan> my cd rom drive is dead
[04:05] <peaces> the_newbie: ok, what kind is it?
[04:05] <badcat> greetings everybody.
[04:05] <pan> oh wait nm
[04:05] <pan> is there a way to install ubuntu
[04:05] <pan> when cd rom drive is dead
[04:05] <lasts> and the mouse can no more be used for copy/paste
[04:05] <pan> and cannot usb boot up
[04:05] <pan> ?
[04:06] <Org-Mode> pan: vmware
[04:06] <FloodBot3> pan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:06] <Flannel> !install | pan
[04:06] <Org-Mode> or virtualbox
[04:06] <lawnninja> Anyone familiar with troubleshooting pulseaudio?
[04:06] <lasts> do you have an idea of what I should do? :)
[04:06] <the_newbie> peaces, Atheros AR5006EG 802.11 b/g
[04:06] <Flannel> pan: That first link gives a number of methods, depending on what you've got at your disposal
[04:06] <pan> k
[04:06] <pan> thx
[04:06] <lasts> (I'v tried to change the keyboard config)
[04:06] <gogzmer> lawnninja: here's how I troubleshoot pulse...use OSS or alsa instead ;)
[04:06] <babaha_> how do i use this?
[04:06] <lasts> (but it didn't get better)
[04:06] <eternaljoy> pan: hey hey smiley cute face ":-)
[04:06] <amine> hi guys/gals
[04:06] <pan> ^^
[04:06] <lawnninja> gogzmer: lol, well I'd like to play two audio apps at once and it's not working
[04:07] <eternaljoy> amine: hello sweet cheeks :-)
[04:07] <babaha_> hi guys~~
[04:07] <gogzmer> pan: also, cd drives are under $30, so they're cheap
[04:07] <Songwind> lawnninja: I have done some pulse troubleshooting.  What's up?
[04:07] <peaces> the_newbie: Ok i had this same problem 2 days ago i know exactly what you need to do.  First disable the driver in the hardware drivers
[04:07] <pan> true
[04:07] <pan> its old laptop
[04:07] <Songwind> lawnninja: is one of them an OSS app?  If so, you need to launch it with padsp <command>
[04:07] <pan> very old dell laptop
[04:07] <gogzmer> lawnninja: i've never had trouble with 2 audio apps at once under oss (i don't hink i ever managed to get alsa to work...but not too sure)
[04:07] <the_newbie> peaces, ok, its good to know that I am not alone with this problem ;)
[04:07] <lawnninja> songwind:  I followed a guide to try and repair pulseaudio and it doesn't seem to work with mplayer and lets say a flash movie at the same time
[04:07] <lasts> hmm, ok, you don't know either
[04:08] <the_newbie> peaces, ready
[04:08] <gogzmer> pan: how old?
[04:08] <onetinsoldier> lasts: first i'll say i don't know what to do for you keyboard/mouse issues really. however you should definitely put all that as just one single line. describe your problem and make the message to the channel as a one-liner
[04:08] <pan> its very old ancient
[04:08] <Songwind> lawnninja: Have you got mplayer configured to use the pulse audio output method?
[04:08] <pan> it runs 500 mgz
[04:08] <lasts> ok onetinsoldier :)
[04:08] <linn1> ﻿Flannel: so when i type  prevu name_of_source_package it will get the intrepid version rather than the hardy one ?
[04:08] <gogzmer> pan: 6 years?
[04:08] <lawnninja> songwind:  I can close the flash movie and then mplayer will play the movie
[04:08] <pan> older maybe
[04:08] <the_newbie> peaces, it is asking me to restart, should I do it, or should I wait?
[04:08] <lawnninja> songwind:  I believe I changed it back in mplayer.conf, I'll double check
[04:08] <gogzmer> pan: so you are trying to get ubuntu on it so you can do...?
[04:08] <amine> have anybody tried java applets on intrepid64 ?
[04:09] <peaces> the_newbie: just wait you'll need to restart soon after something
[04:09] <Guest19042> how do i configure my iptables?
[04:09] <Org-Mode> !firewall
[04:09] <Songwind> lawnninja: So it sounds like flash is taking your card exclusively.  What version of flash are you using?
[04:09] <pan> just felt like installing ubuntu for the fun of it
[04:09] <onetinsoldier> lasts: i suppose you have tried the tools in...  System --> Preferences --> Keyboard/Mouse ?
[04:09] <pan> brother felt like trying it
[04:09] <the_newbie> peaces, all right
[04:09] <pan> trying to get him into trying ubuntu
[04:09] <peaces> the_newbie: ok now you need to install the linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic package in the synaptic package manager
[04:09] <gizmo> is it a problem also when the download slow in terminaL
[04:10] <lawnninja> songwind: is there an easy way to find out?  I also noticed that my sound preferences don't list pulseaudio as one of the options
[04:10] <Songwind> My question is:  Does anyone know why my dhcp server would be failing to start on boot up without any system log messages, when there is a link in /etc/r2.d
[04:10] <gogzmer> pan: i would advise not to try ubuntu on that old of a machine...while it will perform far better than windows on that same hardware, it still will not perform very well
[04:10] <Songwind> lawnninja: Your Ubuntu prefs?  Or flash prefs?
[04:10] <jackdaw> Songwind, is there anything in dmesg?
[04:11] <pan> ah i c
[04:11] <gogzmer> gizmo: what is the bandwidth of your internet connection?
[04:11] <pan> what if i use fluxbox on it
[04:11] <sean__> i was disconnected - i only did one install, ever, but since the live ub untu from cd didnt work, i told it in xp to "help me boot from the CD"
[04:11] <lasts> I'm having some problems with my keyboard/mouse after an upgrade to ubuntu intrepid. For the keyboard: altgr and left/down keys are not responding; for the mouse: no more copy/paste with the middle click. I've tried to change the keyboard and mouse config using the gui, but no success (105 keys already, so...). Any ideas?
[04:11] <gizmo> gogzmer, i dont know where to check my bandwith..
[04:11] <Songwind> jackdaw: There are no dhcp3 messages at all until I start the daemon manually.
[04:11] <the_newbie> peaces, ups, that is going to be kind of difficult, is there any place where I can download the package to install it? I do not have internet but wireless, and I will have to transfer files from this computer to the eee
[04:11] <gizmo> can you help me gogzmer
[04:11] <sean__> so maybe it installed a kernel then
[04:11] <gogzmer> pan: fluxbox might work, or also look into some of the other super small distros
[04:11] <sean__> anyway is it grub i use to delete a kernel or whatever i have to do?
[04:11] <lasts> yeah, I tried onetinsoldier
[04:11] <pan> thx gogzmer
[04:11] <lawnninja> songwind: ubuntu prefs,  looks like I have two versions of the flashplayer when I do about:plugins in firefox  10 r15 and 10 r12
[04:12] <somethingorigina> okay so it found them, asked me if I wanted to activate them, went with yes and it went to the parition screen no problem
[04:12] <gogzmer> gizmo: how are you connected to the internet? What type of internet connection do you have?
[04:12] <lasts> by default, it was on "intel generic 105 keys blabla"
[04:12] <sean__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/91336/
[04:12] <lasts> I set it on my keyboard name
[04:12] <gizmo> gogzmer, im using wireless..
[04:12] <jackdaw> sean_,  you can do it in synaptic if you like, just search for linux
[04:12] <gizmo> normally when i d/l in terminal its not slow..but now its slow..
[04:12] <onetinsoldier> lasts: roger. just checking
[04:12] <sean__> and is that a command-line utility  only?
[04:12] <eternaljoy> gizmo: hello sprout :)
[04:12] <sean__> jackdaw gotcha
[04:12] <peaces> the_newbie: ... umm I have no idea how to help you with that one.  you don't have a ethernet cable you could plug into that computer
[04:12] <gizmo> erks..what sprout?
[04:12] <gizmo> hai eternaljoy
[04:12] <sean__> thanks i usually prefer a gui because it gives you good defaults
[04:12] <gogzmer> gizmo: ok, and what is the wireless card connecting to? I has to be connecting to a router or access point somehow (unless it is wireless via a cell phone network...)
[04:13] <jackdaw> sean__ you can also clean up /boot yourself, but it's a bit scary and there's usually headesr in /usr/src etc which you don't need anymore either
[04:13] <NEWK> Hey, is there any specific package I can install to turn normal Ubuntu (GNOME) into Kubuntu (KDE)?
[04:13] <Songwind> lawnninja: Whave version of Ubuntu are you using?
[04:13] <gizmo> gogzmer,  to the router..
[04:13] <Org-Mode> kubuntu-desktop
[04:13] <lawnninja> songwind: intrepid
[04:13] <babaha_> i am green hand ,hey guys`
[04:13] <gogzmer> gizmo: ok, and how is the router connected to the internet?
[04:13] <NEWK> Org-Mode: What do I do after I install that?
[04:14] <NEWK> Is there like some way I can switch between the two?
[04:14] <gizmo> gogzmer,  from telepone cable
[04:14] <sean__> i have two identical netb ooks
[04:14] <sean__> each is going to a nephew
[04:14] <amine> I got a display problem with java applets on both FF3 and Epiphany-webkit
[04:14] <Org-Mode> NEWK: log out and you should see a menu on the login screen that will allow you to boot into Kubuntu
[04:14] <lawnninja> songwind: I tried to disable all pulseaudio stuff when I was having problems, but I can only use one audio app at a time and that's no bueno.  I reversed all the settings and followed the guide to remove the bad packages and add custom sources to install current pulseaudio packages
[04:14] <Songwind> lawnninja: Huh.  Okay, we may be out of my depth here.  Because as far as I know, PulseAudio Sound Server should be one of your options by default in 8.10
[04:14] <sean__> so i want as little weridness as humanly possible
[04:14] <NEWK> Org-Mode: seriously? That's awesome
[04:14] <gogzmer> gizmo: ok, is your internet connection dial-up, ISDN, or DSL?
[04:14] <jackdaw> sean__ which are they?
[04:14] <sean__> i am alre4ady going to recommend they shut down instead of hibernate
[04:14] <Org-Mode> NEWK: yep :)
[04:14] <jackdaw> sean__, that's a cool present btw
[04:14] <sean__> actually, one is named SEAN
[04:15] <sean__> haha
[04:15] <NEWK> Will Compiz still work?
[04:15] <gogzmer> gizmo: I am basically asking what kind of service you pay for
[04:15] <Org-Mode> NEWK: ive got like 15 window managers
[04:15] <sean__> it;s his netb ook i am typing this  on
[04:15] <jackdaw> sean__, i meant the netbooks :)
[04:15] <gizmo> gogzmer,  i think espeed
[04:15] <Administrator> HAS ANYONE HERE SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED UBUNTU 8.1 ON A SONY VAIO WITH A WIDESCREEN AND INTEL GRAPHICS CARD?
[04:15] <sean__> trying to smooth out as much hassle as possible
[04:15] <Org-Mode> NEWK: yep
[04:15] <Aframester> yes compiz still works
[04:15] <NEWK> they have 15 different window managers
[04:15] <gizmo> i  dont know what type of it..really gogzmer
[04:15] <NEWK> Aweseomness
[04:15] <sean__> i installed thunderbird and flash and java and so on
[04:15] <neutral> i am using ubuntu 8.04.1 and a geforce4 ti 4200. i have been trying for hours to have a normal resolution with no success. support in 8.10 for the card is even worse. i am using binary nvidia drivers and maximum resolution is 640 by 480 and my lcd monitor is recognized as crt. my xorg.conf is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/91321/ and my Xorg.0.log is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/91328/
[04:15] <lawnninja> songwind:  at one time I did have the option for pulse when I checked my volume preferences to change the mixer device
[04:15] <Songwind> lawnninja: Do you get anything if you check the process list for pulseaudio?  i.e. ps -A | grep pulse
[04:16] <sean__> the older 1 only gets 2G for his xp partition, the yo8ung4er gets 10G
[04:16] <lawnninja> songwind: yeah pgrep shows one
[04:16] <Fezzler> I download a "sh" file to my desktop but I'm not sure how to install it.  The program is FreeRIDE
[04:16] <sean__> okay synaptic rebuilt its list and i searched for linux and got 25 hits
[04:16] <gogzmer> gizmo: ok, open up firefox, and google bandwidth test...any of the first few links will take you to a page that will let you test your connection speed...once you have an upload and a download speed, let me know what those are. If the first test you click on doesn't give you an upload speed, try a different page
[04:17] <sean__> how can i find my kernels and kill the ....-9?
[04:17] <NEWK> Anyway, thanks for your help
[04:17] <Org-Mode> yw
[04:17] <onetinsoldier> Fezzler: try   sudo "sh /path/to/file.sh"
[04:17] <sean__> konbanwa suiyouka-san
[04:17] <lasts> is there still a way to change the keyboard config from the shell on ubuntu intrepid? It seems that HAL is doing the job now, and that he's doing it badly (I'm used to xorg.conf, but it's all gone...)
[04:17] <NEWK> I'm a bit of a Linux newb, but I don't know. Are there any programs that work only with one window manager?
[04:17] <gizmo> gogzmer,  its ok..
[04:17] <gizmo> normal..and fast when i upload..
[04:18] <gogzmer> NEWK: not that I know of
[04:18] <NEWK> ok
[04:18] <NEWK> What about programs that come packaged with a certain window manager
[04:18] <NEWK> like the GNOME games
[04:18] <Org-Mode> NEWK: most of the popular window managers should be ok with that
[04:18] <Songwind> NEWK:  I can't think of any.  There are some that only work with a compositing window manager, which limits them a bit.
[04:18] <NEWK> for example
[04:18] <gogzmer> gizmo: normal?   try to get numbers that have MBPs or KBps after them
[04:18] <freyyr> Hey, I recently updated to Intrepid and now my CD writer is no longer recognized, but it worked fine in gutsy.  Any ideas?
[04:18] <sean__> i clicked generic linux (like the boot menu calls it)
[04:18] <sean__> annd it says i have nothing installed for linux
[04:18] <somethingorigina> hey, was wondering if anyone could lend me a hand. My brothers win XP system running a RAID 0 got an OS corruption beyond fixing but I'm trying to recover data using Ubuntu Live CD; however, cant get the live CD version to recognize the RAID 0. The Alt CD with the built in RAID recognizes the RAID prefectly. but when booted in Live CD no HDDs are listed.
[04:18] <Org-Mode> yeah like AWN needs compiz-fusion and most other docks
[04:18] <NEWK> Wel, thanks for your help
[04:18] <gizmo> gogzmer,  where to get it?
[04:19] <NEWK> I appreciate it
[04:19] <gizmo> i dont see any mbps an kbps
[04:19] <lasts> NEWK, the GNUstep apps works badly in others wm than wmaker :)
[04:19] <Songwind> lawnninja: I have been thinking about it, and the problem for me is that I don't know exactly where/how the Gnome Sound applet gets its info about PulseAudio, so I am not sure what to tell you to check :(
[04:19] <lasts> and hm
[04:19] <sean__> is there a help file for fixing this in synaptic?
[04:19] <peaces> anyone have experience with poweriso?
[04:19] <lasts> some apps get awfull in tiled wm
[04:20] <sean__> lasts i havent evven gotten to my interface issues
[04:20] <omshanti> How do I play a small collection of MP3's?
[04:20] <sean__> it;s a 9" screen
[04:20] <sean__> you LITERALLY can
[04:20] <sean__> not click the windows in rhythmbox. they jump around and never let you click them
[04:20] <gogzmer> lawnninja: have you tried to use alsa or oss?
[04:20] <Org-Mode> !players | omshanti
[04:21] <sean__> smart apps like firefox and thunderbird let you but rhythmbox and a dozen others don
[04:21] <onetinsoldier> Fezzler: did that work for you?
[04:21] <lasts> sean__, use tiled wm? yeah, I use ion personally
[04:21] <freyyr> ah wait, nevermind, just k3b is screwed
[04:21] <sean__> don't think a 9" screen is a possibility
[04:21] <sean__> what is tiled wm?
[04:21] <lasts> but with my keyboard issues, I can't :D
[04:21] <sean__> and what is ion?
[04:21] <lasts> hm
[04:21] <sean__> and also so i dont get off track, HOW do i fix this boot issue?
[04:21] <lawnninja> gogzmer: I was but I want to be able to play multiple things at once
[04:21] <KillerOrca> hello, I am having trouble cloning a ubuntu install, I used clonezilla and it seemed to clone the install fine, but then it is caught in some loop now doing something, anyone know how to stop the loop or has experience with clonezilla?
[04:22] <sean__> i went into synaptic and it said i had no linux installed, whatever that means
[04:22] <lasts> it's a wm where windows can't overlap
[04:22] <gogzmer> lawnninja: that's strange
[04:22] <Songwind> lawnninja: You can set up the "dmix" plugin with Alsa to let you do multiple sources at once.
[04:22] <lawnninja> songwind:  Yeah I'm not sure either.  Looks like flash is trying to grab complete control of the sound card
[04:22] <sean__> lasts if windows cant overlap is thaat good for a problem like mine?
[04:22] <smo_PenguinStyle> Hey all.  I'm getting this error when I try to use firefox.  And, other things are seemingly broken too.... "Failed to load XPCOM".  I've even tried reinstalling xulrunner... and that didn't work.  :(  Any suggestions?
[04:22] <lasts> oh ok, it was a different subject
[04:22] <lasts> no sean__
[04:22] <lawnninja> songwind: how can I change the mixer it uses for flash?
[04:22] <sean__> the app window is b igger than the screen and cant be resized
[04:22] <lasts> (sorry)
[04:22] <sean__> i use whatev er the default window manager is in ub untu
[04:23] <sean__> this is just installed out of the disk
[04:23] <Org-Mode> that would be Gnome
[04:23] <sean__> right
[04:23] <lasts> well, sorry for the flood, it's really bugging me
[04:23] <nicauf> hello
[04:23] <sean__> which i am familiar with to a degree
[04:23] <lasts> I'm having some problems with my keyboard/mouse after an upgrade to ubuntu intrepid. For the keyboard: altgr and left/down keys are not responding; for the mouse: no more copy/paste with the middle click. I've tried to change the keyboard and mouse config using the gui, but no success (105 keys already, so...). Any ideas?
[04:23] <Songwind> lawnninja: :  Meaning you set up the default device in Alsa to be dmix, then Flash should use that.
[04:23] <sean__> my other boxes are solaris using gnome and os x using some gnome via macports
[04:23] <jestinjoy> how to install kubuntu on ubuntu using kubuntu cd?
[04:23] <repsol_> Hey is there an app in ubuntu that will show the CPU temp?
[04:23] <musikgoat|main> gnome is not a window manager, but metacity is, which is what is default
[04:23] <sean__> right, makes sense
[04:23] <sean__> i saw that load on solaris when i did a gnome-session
[04:24] <woody86> I'm trying to install ia32-libs on my 64bit machine, but it says it can't find it? I'm running 8.10 with all the repos enabled
[04:24] <gogzmer> repsol_: depends on if your motherboard presents a temp reader to the OS
[04:24] <Songwind> jestinjoy: :  You can boot the kubuntu CD and choose to install on some of your unused disk space.
[04:24] <sean__> but anyway how do i delete the 8xxxx-9 kernel from my boot menu?
[04:24] <repsol_> gogzmer, anything to try to find out?
[04:24] <lawnninja> songwind: There's no way to change how it behaves currently with flash stuff?
[04:24] <sean__> someone suggested synoptic, but how do you do that?
[04:24] <smo_PenguinStyle> Hey all.  I'm getting this error when I try to use firefox.  And, other things are seemingly broken too.... "Failed to load XPCOM".  I've even tried reinstalling xulrunner... and that didn't work.  Any thoughts?
[04:24] <alex_21> Hi, what screen reader can I launch in a CLI version of Ubuntu. I know ther is one, but I don't remember its name
[04:24] <oggu> What do you suggest for a live environment web server on a VPS, Debian or Ubuntu server. I have googled some and people say that Debian is more stabil but less secure due to older packages.
[04:24] <Songwind> lawnninja: I think there is - I will try to remember how that worked.
[04:24] <somethingorigina> hey, was wondering if anyone could lend me a hand. My brothers win XP system running a RAID 0 got an OS corruption beyond fixing but I'm trying to recover data using Ubuntu Live CD; however, cant get the live CD version to recognize the RAID 0. The Alt CD with the built in RAID recognizes the RAID prefectly. but when booted in Live CD no HDDs are listed.
[04:24] <gogzmer> repsol_: First place I
[04:25] <gogzmer> repsol_: first place i's look is the bios
[04:25] <jestinjoy> i want to install it along with ubuntu so that i can select the session on startup
[04:25] <lasts> why did the upgrade break my keyboard config? how is it only possible?
[04:25] <repsol_> gogzmer I can't do that through the os right? Plus it is small bios something like pretty much boot order and time
[04:25] <tyler_d> how do I log into gnome from over the interweb?
[04:25] <Org-Mode> alex_21: isnt it Festival? or something like that?
[04:25] <gogzmer> somethingorigina: you don't happen to have an extra drive laying around that you could pop into the machine and install to do you?
[04:26] <pookmu> What file do I need to make a copy of to save FF bookmarks and passwords?
[04:26] <Songwind> jestinjoy: Oh, in that case you can just use "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[04:26] <alex_21> That is a speech engine, not a screen reader
[04:26] <Org-Mode> ah sorry
[04:26] <Songwind> jestinjoy: But all the apps will show up in both menus - fair warning.
[04:26] <neutral> i am using ubuntu 8.04.1 and a geforce4 ti 4200. i have been trying for hours to have a normal resolution with no success. support in 8.10 for the card is even worse. i am using binary nvidia drivers and maximum resolution is 640 by 480 and my lcd monitor is recognized as crt. my xorg.conf is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/91321/ and my Xorg.0.log is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/91328/
[04:26] <gogzmer> repsol_: correct, you would have to re-boot...and if the bios is pretty featureless, chances are that there isn't a temp sensor that ubuntu can access
[04:26] <alex_21> No problem
[04:26] <gogzmer> tyler_d: via the ternimal?
[04:26] <tyler_d> gogzmer: yes
[04:27] <gogzmer> !ssh | tyler_d
[04:27] <Songwind> lawnninja: http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/ shows how to change your /etc/firefox/firefoxrc to tell it to use AOSS.  That might help.
[04:27] <somethingorigina> gog: actually I can probably scrounge one up. brb while I try it
[04:27] <repsol_> Thanks gogzmer
[04:27] <sean__> okay instead of a string search for linux, which doesnt work, i tried just no search but clicking only the base system
[04:27] <gogzmer> tyler_d: ssh is the usual way it is done. Those links have a bunch of info
[04:27] <gogzmer> np
[04:27] <sean__> and found 2 linux-image installs
[04:28] <sean__> so i will try deleting the .9
[04:28] <smo_PenguinStyle> Hey all.  I'm getting this error when I try to use firefox.  And, other things are seemingly broken too.... "Failed to load XPCOM".  I've even tried reinstalling xulrunner... and that didn't work.  Any thoughts?
[04:28] <sliverS2k> #list
[04:28] <transporter> #compiz
[04:28] <pookmu> Where are FF passwords and bookmarks saved?
[04:29] <Org-Mode> alex_21: im finding Yasr and Gnome-Orca and lsr
[04:29] <Org-Mode> Yasr being a "General purpose console screen reader"
[04:29] <alex_21> Oh, thanks
[04:30] <alex_21> So much
[04:30] <Org-Mode> anytime
[04:30] <stephans> /join #cedega
[04:30] <KillerOrca> hello, I am having trouble cloning a ubuntu install, I used clonezilla and it seemed to clone the install fine, but then it is caught in some loop now doing something, anyone know how to stop the loop or has experience with clonezilla?
[04:30] <gogzmer> pookmu: /home/[user]/.mozilla/firefox/bookmarks.html
[04:31] <juancabrito> hi everybody. How can I change my "kernel" to be "multimedia-optimized" or something to fix that the "system timer resolution is too low"
[04:31] <TMD-Dubbed> I need help installing a mplayer skin, i tried pasting it to   /usr/share/mplayer/skins, but it says permission den
[04:31] <gogzmer> pookmu: I would guess that passwords are burried somewhere nearby
[04:31] <pookmu> gogzmer If I were to do a clean install can I make a copy of that file and replace it?
[04:31] <lawnninja> songwind: firefox directory doesn't exist, only firefox-3.0 and there is no such file there
[04:32] <sean__> well here goes nothing
[04:32] <Songwind> lawnninja: You may need to create it, that's okay.
[04:32] <neutral> i am using ubuntu 8.04.1 and a geforce4 ti 4200. i have been trying for hours to have a normal resolution with no success. support in 8.10 for the card is even worse. i am using binary nvidia drivers and maximum resolution is 640 by 480 and my lcd monitor is recognized as crt. my xorg.conf is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/91321/ and my Xorg.0.log is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/91328/
[04:32] <FAJ> neutral: is it an viewsonic?
[04:32] <gogzmer> pookmu: for the book marks file...try backing a back up copy, and then editing it. If the bookmarks menu changes as you would expect, then yes, i would guess you could do that
[04:32] <pookmu> gogzmer: thanks
[04:32] <alex_21> Yasr won't work whe I use it
[04:33] <FAJ> neutral: is it a viewsonic?
[04:33] <Org-Mode> alex_21: what bout Orca?
[04:33] <FAJ> neutral: is it a viewsonic?
[04:33] <neutral> FAJ it is a Samsung SyncMaster
[04:33] <gogzmer> Can I use gparted from a live CD to grow an ntfs windows partition and shrink an ext3 data partition safely?
[04:33] <alex_21> Orca isn't for CLI
[04:34] <seeker> hello all. Just wondering if there is a simple way to identify a usb device when I plug it
[04:34] <FAJ> neutral:  hmmm never heard of that error before.  but i know that with nvidia and viewsonics there are some nasty bugs that don't go well together at all...
[04:34] <Org-Mode> ah
[04:34] <lasts> I'm having some problems with my keyboard/mouse after an upgrade to ubuntu intrepid. For the keyboard: altgr and left/down keys are not responding; for the mouse: no more copy/paste with the middle click. I've tried to change the keyboard and mouse config using the gui, but no success (105 keys already, so...). Any ideas?
[04:34] <neutral> FAJ, hmm maybe it is related
[04:34] <FAJ> neutral: i can run you through the steps; see if it works?
[04:34] <Aframester> did i hear that K3B has problems on Intrepid?
[04:35] <gogzmer> seeker: it should be the one your hand is on ;)
[04:35] <FAJ> neutral: also note that #nvidia is great at handling issues like ths.
[04:35] <neutral> FAJ, sure, can you help me ?
[04:35] <neutral> FAJ, ok i will join too
[04:35] <FAJ> neutral:  we can try ;)  do you have nvidia-settings installed?
[04:35] <neutral> yes
[04:35] <russ> hello
[04:35] <FAJ> neutral:  and nvidia-xconfig?
[04:36] <TMD-Dubbed> I need help installing a mplayer skin, i tried pasting it to   /usr/share/mplayer/skins, but it says permission den
[04:36] <berilio> how can i find the chip model of my wireless?
[04:36] <Circs> And I'm back.
[04:36] <neutral> yes
[04:36] <dgarr> seeker: on hardy and later you can see/use uuids: ls -lR /dev/disk
[04:36] <Songwind> FAJ:  Isn't there a different "old cards" version of the nvidia-glx package that you have to use for the 4200?
[04:36] <FAJ> Songwind:  you have a pt.
[04:36] <Circs> oh, here I go again....
[04:37] <FAJ> neutral:  are you using the legacy drivers?
[04:37] <lasts> OK. Just a simple question: is HAL responsible for the keyboard and the mouse?
[04:37] <Aframester> can anyone tell me if my nick is properly registered
[04:37] <ASULutzy> Aframester: Try to join #java, I think you need to be registered to join that channel
[04:37] <FAJ> Songwind: are they the legacy ones?
[04:37] <Aframester> ok thx
[04:37] <Songwind> FAJ:  Yes.
[04:37] <Aframester> um how?
[04:38] <FAJ> Songwind:  where does that stop then?
[04:38] <FAJ> Aframester: /join #jaba
[04:38] <FAJ> *#java
[04:38] <Aframester> thx
[04:38] <neutral> FAJ, yes 96
[04:38] <TMD-Dubbed> I need help installing a mplayer skin, i tried pasting it to   /usr/share/mplayer/skins, but it says permission den
[04:38] <FAJ> neutral: ok...
[04:38] <FAJ> neutral:  ok have you tried uninstalling xserver-xgl ?
[04:38] <ASULutzy> TMD-Dubbed: You need to be root to write to /usr
[04:38] <TMD-Dubbed> how do i do that?
[04:38] <neutral> FAJ, no
[04:38] <Songwind> FAJ:  I think I am wrong - a quick google seems to suggest that the default should work.
[04:38] <Aframester> *#java
[04:38] <FAJ> neutral: i know that this has been an issue with viewsonic; and removing xserver-xgl pretty much fixes the issue, as ironic as it sounds...
[04:39] <b3z3rk3r> is anyone familiar with setting up Synergy on Windows/Linux?
[04:39] <ASULutzy> TMD-Dubbed: sudo cp /home/$USER/theSkin /usr/share/mplayer/skins
[04:39] <bastid_raZor> Aframester; /join #java
[04:39] <neutral> FAJ, lol
[04:39] <Aframester> i dont think it worked
[04:39] <neutral> FAJ, how do i do that ?
[04:39] <IndyGunFreak> TMD-Dubbed: are you using Ubuntu?
[04:39] <ASULutzy> TMD-Dubbed: Where /home/$USER/theSkin is the full path to the skin
[04:39] <hotdog003> Hey everyone! I've used usb-creator to make a ubuntu USB drive. My question is this: Can I add a swap file?
[04:39] <FAJ> Songwind: i know that there have been issues like this with viewsonic and nvidia (i have had them) and i read somewhere online that removing xserver-xgl works, confirmed on a friends computer
[04:39] <Aframester> didnt work
[04:39] <FAJ> neutral:  sudo apt-get remove xserver-xgl
[04:39] <alex_21> TMD-Dubbed: Use sudo while copying
[04:40] <Ward1983> is xen no longer supported ?!?
[04:40] <TMD-Dubbed> ok thanks
[04:40] <FAJ> Aframester:  then you are not registered correctly ;)  your name in /whois does not say identified, so I would say that you arent
[04:40] <FAJ> neutral: and then restart and come back in.
[04:40] <sean> the synaptic removal of the 9 image killed my biggest problem
[04:40] <ASULutzy> Aframester: type /msg NickServ register YourPassword
[04:40] <Songwind> lawnninja: I'm sorry I wasn't more help.  I need to get going.  I hope you find some better guidance.
[04:40] <neutral> FAJ, says it is not installed
[04:40] <Guest52490> ab out my other 2 main ones:
[04:40] <Aframester> ok thx ill try to do it right again
[04:40] <FAJ> neutral: hmmm really?
[04:40] <FAJ> maybe i have it spelled wrong.
[04:41] <Aframester> im noob
[04:41] <Guest52490> i am starting to think that some apps, rhythmbox just being one example, are somehow not adhering to some standard
[04:41] <Songwind> lawnninja: did you try #pulseaudio?
[04:41] <Guest52490> and that
[04:41] <ASULutzy> !enter | Guest52490
[04:41] <neutral> FAJ, just xserver-xorg is installed
[04:41] <Guest52490> that's why the windows hop around when you click on them
[04:41] <Guest52490> I AM trying
[04:41] <FAJ> neutral:  i wouldn't go removing that... it sounds important
[04:41] <Guest52490> my apostrophe touches my return key and both are very small
[04:42] <lawnninja> songwind:  I'll try it
[04:42] <neutral> FAJ, yes
[04:42] <Guest52490> my shift key, too
[04:42] <alex_21> Hey, guys, I really need to gain access to the screen reader in the CLI, and I can't find out how to start yasr
[04:42] <FAJ> are your drivers installed correctly from 'hardware drivers'?
[04:43] <sean__> as for my other big problem, is it the case for others that when you shutdown hibernate it never ever comes back up?
[04:43] <sean__> the netbook just says "waking up, please wait"
[04:43] <sean__> only, for hours
[04:44] <sean__> i am going to try it one more time no0w that i got rid of the extra image, maybe that wasw confusing hibernate
[04:45] <FAJ> neutral:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=666837  ?
[04:45] <Org-Mode> alex_21: you have to edit /etc/yasr/yasr.conf according to 'man yasr'
[04:45] <Hunter876> Question:  I am having trouble getting my ATI RAEDEON 7000 video card too work with 3d and desktop effects can someone please help me with this issue thank you
[04:45] <omshanti> audacious isn't playing the mp3 i loaded :<
[04:46] <Org-Mode> you prolly dont have the codecs
[04:46] <Org-Mode> !codecs
[04:46] <neutral> FAJ, dont think so because my monitor is 10280 1024 max
[04:46] <neutral> 1280 1024*
[04:46] <FAJ> neutral: if you go into nvidia-settings... can you set the correct resolution there?
[04:46] <alex_21> Org-mode: That is stupid since I am blind and can't see the screen to update it
[04:47] <alex_21> Lol, not your fault but the uasr designers
[04:48] <ad|rig> install issue: after a botched Knoppix HD install, I decided to install Ubuntu as a server and then use aptitude to install xubuntu...now, I am at the Ubuntu install disk format where it has been at 100% for at least 45 minutes now-- any suggestions?
[04:48] <omshanti> Org-Mode, i have that installed already :((
[04:48] <johnzorn> since upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04 my wireless connection no longer works. I get the error kill switch is on. Anyone ever solve this problem before?
[04:49] <neutral> FAJ, no
[04:49] <hotdog003> johnzorn: Does releasing the killswitch help? Perhaps upgrading to 8.10 would help.
[04:49] <FAJ> neutral:  meaning you haven't tried, or it won't let you?
[04:50] <johnzorn> hotdog003, the kill switch doesnt do anything
[04:50] <neutral> FAJ, it wont let me
[04:50] <FAJ> neutral:  ok   http://forums.nvidia.com/lofiversion/index.php?t73027.html
[04:50] <Hunter876> need help installing a radeon 7000 so it will work with 3d and desktop effects
[04:50] <FAJ> neutral: have you tried that?
[04:50] <gogzmer> alex_21: you could use orca to help you open and edit it via a gui editor
[04:50] <FAJ> !ati | Hunter876
[04:51] <hotdog003> johnzorn, are you sure? Try rebooting it with the switch the other way. I heard that a bug was where you couldn't switch it on and off while the system was on. 8.10 has some improvements for killswitch handling, or so I hear.
[04:51] <smo_PenguinStyle> #leave
[04:51] <KillerOrca> hello, I am having trouble cloning a ubuntu install, I used clonezilla and it seemed to clone the install fine, but then it is caught in some loop now doing something, anyone know how to stop the loop or has experience with clonezilla?
[04:51] <Hunter876> 00:03.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
[04:53] <Hunter876> -display UNCLAIMED
[04:53] <Hunter876>        description: VGA compatible controller
[04:53] <Hunter876>        product: Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
[04:53] <Hunter876>        vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
[04:53] <Hunter876>        physical id: 3
[04:53] <FloodBot3> Hunter876: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:53] <Hunter876>        bus info: pci@0000:00:03.0
[04:53] <cplab2-58> hey i am using aptoncd to update other systems which do not have net connection...but when i install those packages it tries to download from the net instead of taking it from aptoncd.....can anyone help
[04:53] <johnzorn> hotdog003, when you press it, it springs back to its original position.
[04:53] <Org-Mode> cplab2-58: it needs internet because those packages are not full
[04:53] <tyler_d> already have ssh access to the box: want to remotely log into the gnome session?
[04:54] <hotdog003> johnzorn: What type of computer is it? I have a Dell Vostro 1500 that springs back when I push it one way, but when I push it the other way it sticks.
[04:54] <buggix> hi, I want to install vista additionally in a free partition. but it seems to be not possible. is it true?
[04:54] <juancabrito> How can I change my "kernel" to be "multimedia-optimized" or something to fix that the "system timer resolution is too low" or make ubuntustudio to work.
[04:54] <mooglinux> is there an easy way to open an irc log? opening it in a text editor is rather messy
[04:54] <alex_21> I have no gui
[04:54] <neutral> FAJ, there is no optin to get edid in nvidia-settings
[04:54] <cplab2-58> Org-Mode; so how can i solve this now??
[04:54] <FAJ> neutral:
[04:54] <tyler_d> buggix: Vista requires the primary partition on your hard disk
[04:54] <LTL> cplab2-58: un-comment the cdrom line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:54] <FAJ> neutral:  does it ask you to run nvidia-xconfig  ?
[04:54] <Org-Mode> cplab2-58: you'll need to have internet, simple as that
[04:54] <LTL> cplab2-58: or add the cdrom line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:55] <johnzorn> hotdog003, its an acer 5570
[04:55] <meoblast001> how do you reenter a screen session?
[04:55] <buggix> tyler_d: I've made a primary partition with gparted. or is it not the same?
[04:55] <KillerOrca> screen -r
[04:55] <tyler_d> buggix: I would say tias
[04:55] <cplab2-58> LTL, Org-Mode; how do i uncomment it...
[04:55] <TraceRoute> having a rather odd issue, install ubuntu on my other system, im dual booting it with windows, Note that windows is on a separate drive, the problem is when it gets finished installing i get a grub error 17 but when i set the bios to load windows first grub is fine and all is good?
[04:55] <Org-Mode> LTL: didnt think of that good looking out :)
[04:55] <gogzmer> alex_21: so, are u in here on a different comp then?
[04:56] <onetinsoldier> cplab2-58: i don't know anything about aptoncd, but have you read the docs for it. it just sounds 'to me' as if you have not properly edited the /etc/apt/sources.list file on the target machines
[04:56] <neutral> FAJ, what asks me ?
[04:56] <buggix> tyler_d: so I have to install vista as the first os of the hd and then I can install ubuntu on a free partition?
[04:56] <FAJ> neutral: have you tried adding the desired resolution to xorg.conf ?
[04:56] <gogzmer> TraceRoute: what do you mean "set the bios to load windows first" ?
[04:56] <Aframester> i am having a really hard time trying to register my nickname
[04:56] <LTL> cplab2-58: i'm not familiar with that cd but sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list  should be one of the first repo lines with a '#' sign in front of it. remove the #
[04:57] <FAJ> !register | Aframester
[04:57] <alex_21> gogzmer: Yes, I am on the host computer where this cli system is virtualized
[04:57] <neutral> FAJ, no, how do i do that ?
[04:57] <Beefy> buggix: have a look at this page: http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_linux_is_already_installed.htm
[04:57] <FAJ> !resolution | neutral
[04:57] <tyler_d> buggix: that is correct to my knowledge
[04:57] <TraceRoute> gogzmer when i set the disk boot priority
[04:57] <onetinsoldier> cplab2-58: you aren't trying to install any packages on these systems that are no contained on the cd/dvd are you?
[04:57] <buggix> Beefy: thx 4 the link. ^^
[04:57] <tyler_d> buggix: I haven't run it that way though, I personally recommend just using virtualbox and installing vista
[04:57] <seeker> thanks.
[04:57] <onetinsoldier> cplab2-58: NO=NOT
[04:57] <onetinsoldier> oopps
[04:57] <neutral> FAJ, i know what x is.. i dont know how to add the resolution to xorg.conf
[04:58] <gogzmer> TraceRoute: That is because there is only 1 MBR for your system
[04:58] <juancabrito> How can I change my "kernel" to be "multimedia-optimized" or something to fix the "system timer resolution is too low"
[04:58] <FAJ> neutral: look at that site; and look under 'setting resolution changes in xorg.conf'
[04:58] <hotdog003> johnzorn: You might be interested in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/237312 or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/193970
[04:58] <lasts> I'm having some problems with my keyboard/mouse after an upgrade to ubuntu intrepid. For the keyboard: altgr and left/down keys are not responding; for the mouse: no more copy/paste with the middle click. I've tried to change the keyboard and mouse config using the gui, but no success (105 keys already, so...). Any ideas?
[04:58] <cplab2-58> onetinsoldier; i m trying to install packages which are not there in the cd
[04:58] <onetinsoldier> cplab2-58: ok, that is a problem then
[04:58] <cplab2-58> onetinsoldier; the other systems do not have net connection so i have to make updations
[04:59] <TraceRoute> gogzmer I don't understand what that means, i never encountered this problem before
[04:59] <hotdog003> johnzorn: Specifically the workarounds in the second link
[04:59] <Org-Mode> yep for that you'll need internet cplab2-58
[04:59] <Org-Mode> unless you have a Ubuntu CD/DVD around
[04:59] <cplab2-58> Org-Mode; thats why i have used aptoncd
[04:59] <Org-Mode> as far as I know aptoncd only contains a LIST of packages, not the full packages
[05:00] <FAJ> cplab2-58:  aptoncd does not save the packages for reinstall; it just saves a list of packages.
[05:00] <FAJ> as Org-Mode just said
[05:00] <Org-Mode> yea its just a list
[05:00] <FAJ> as stated directly in the aptoncd readme stuff
[05:00] <Pelle_> Hi all, my ubuntu logs just filled my HD and I cant log back in to ubuntu at all. I am in winxp now. Anyone knows how to delete some files on my Ubuntu partition (ext3 i believe)
[05:00] <cplab2-58> Org-Mode; it worked FAJ; so whats the alternative then
[05:00] <Org-Mode> get a Ubuntu CD/DVD or internet
[05:01] <LTL> cplab2-58: burn or get the proper cd/dvd
[05:01] <FAJ> cplab2-58:  going to packages.ubuntu.com and getting the files that you need to get your internet up, and using a flash drive back and forth .
[05:01] <Org-Mode> I hear bestbuy and circuit city even have Ubuntu CD's now
[05:01] <cplab2-58> Org-Mode; We have pendrives...cd drive usages are retsricted in our lab
[05:01] <Org-Mode> so you might try that route
[05:02] <cplab2-58> Org-Mode, FAJ, LTL; We have pendrives...cd drive usages are retsricted in our lab
[05:02] <FAJ> cplab2-58:  so just get the packages from packages.ubuntu.com  and get the ones you need to get your internet working...
[05:02] <FAJ> or if you have a wired connection available.... that is helpful normally.
[05:02] <Org-Mode> or install the packages needed on a USB stick
[05:02] <cplab2-58> Org-Mode, FAJ, LTL; and somehow we want to install all packages which are required for lab
[05:03] <FAJ> cplab2-58:  again internet will be your best option.
[05:03] <cplab2-58> FAJ; u mean we can download the packages
[05:03] <FAJ> cplab2-58:  yes.
[05:03] <Org-Mode> ok well when you get home, download the packages on a USB stick
[05:03] <\kira> best buy and curuit city with ubunut cd's??? Great news!
[05:03] <Org-Mode> Kira its just what ive heard, not sure if thats true or not :)
[05:03] <FAJ> cplab2-58: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[05:03] <cplab2-58> FAJ; only 1 system has net connection from whioch i m chatting with you all
[05:03] <\kira> Org-Mode: I see :( Got my hopes up, at least :D
[05:04] <FAJ> neutral:  is that working for you?
[05:04] <musikgoat|main> Org-Mode:  BB has sold them previously, i don't see why they'd change...
[05:04] <Org-Mode> Kira ubuntu can send you free CD's
[05:04] <FAJ> or you can just burn your own ;)
[05:04] <Org-Mode> musikgoat|main: ah ok
[05:04] <neutral> FAJ, no, tried using xrandx
[05:04] <FAJ> neutral:  did it work?
[05:04] <LTL> cplab2-58: download the appropriate iso and burn it. use it.
[05:04] <FAJ> neutral: i would try adding to xorg.conf and restarting; i would think it is your best route.
[05:05] <neutral> FAJ, what should i add ?
[05:05] <zaapiel> riddle me this, would full disk encryption be a bad idea on a laptop? is full disk encryption especially taxing on a laptop HD?
[05:05] <FAJ> what is the res.s that you are looking for ?
[05:05] <TestingTheTest> How do i kill a Zombie process ?
[05:05] <LTL> TestingTheTest: rebooting usually
[05:06] <TestingTheTest> Only
[05:06] <TestingTheTest> ?
[05:06] <musikgoat|main> zaapiel: eh, its fine, its implemented in many businesses nowadays
[05:06] <onetinsoldier> TestingTheTest: yeah. i don't think you can\
[05:06] <FAJ> TestingTheTest: you could try using sudo killall and that programs pid?
[05:06] <gogzmer> TestingTheTest: define zombie?
[05:06] <hotdog003> FAJ: Killall wants a program name, not a PID. Use kill instead.
[05:06] <trollboy> kill -9 the_pid
[05:06] <trollboy> where the pid is the pid of the application
[05:06] <gogzmer> TestingTheTest: yup, use kill...if that doesn't work, reboot
[05:06] <musikgoat|main> zaapiel: although some of the machines had trouble, its been going fine for most
[05:06] <FAJ> hotdog003: TestingTheTest see hotdog003's and trollboy post above
[05:07] <FAJ> neutral; what is the res. you are looking for?
[05:07] <musikgoat|main> zaapiel: the trouble being poor performance, and long shutdown times
[05:07] <gizmo> anyone help me in vuze i cant d/l a full movie..
[05:07] <neutral> 1280x1024
[05:07] <TraceRoute> gogzmer 1 master boot record? so why would linux install grub on my windows drive?
[05:07] <cplab2-58> FAJ; i need packages like umbrello, gcc, g++, anjuta, eclipse...
[05:07] <gizmo> where can i find a full movie d/l..using vuze
[05:08] <trollboy> what is vuze?
[05:08] <sshirley> Hi everyone. I posted this in #cups, but it looks like that channel is dead. :-)  I have CUPS running and I was able to configure it for the web interface. But it seems that my system can't see that my printer is attached (Samsung ML-1740). Can anyone tell me how to make my system recognize it?
[05:08] <cplab2-58> musikgoat; long time
[05:08] <FAJ> cplab2-58: again getting the free cds, using packages.ubuntu.com or getting on the internet...
[05:08] <krazyfingerz47> sup guys, i cant get any sound, it says the audio drivers are installed, and i changed the privileges of my account and it has "Enable Sound: ON", how can i upgrade it or something?
[05:08] <gizmo> where can i find a full movie d/l..using vuze
[05:08] <LTL> neutral: if i pastebin'd my xorg.conf you could carefully insert the stuff. want it?
[05:08] <onetinsoldier> trollboy: it's a frontend to Azureus
[05:08] <cplab2-58> FAJ; i decided to get from packages.ubuntu.com
[05:08] <FAJ> cplab2-58:  ok good choice ;)
[05:08] <neutral> LTL, sure, let me try please
[05:09] <onetinsoldier> !Azureus
[05:09] <cplab2-58> FAJ; so how do i get all those packages from there
[05:09] <trollboy> ah, onetinsoldier I use transmission
[05:09] <LTL> neutral: i don't guarentee but it usually works.
[05:09] <LTL> neutral: one sec
[05:09] <neutral> LTL, ok
[05:09] <onetinsoldier> trollboy: roger
[05:09] <\kira> !sauerbraten
[05:09] <gogzmer> TraceRoute: grub gets installed into the master boot record, and if windows existed before on the system, grub went into the existing mbr that windows was using
[05:09] <FAJ> cplab2-58:  you look them up one by one through searching in the specific release you want them.
[05:09] <\kira> :(
[05:09] <TestingTheTest> Transmission is a better bittorrent clint... imo.
[05:09] <\kira> !games
[05:09] <FAJ> neutral: is LTL helping you now?
[05:09] <trollboy> ubottu, you're a sad man if you don't know about sauerbraten
[05:09] <gizmo> anyone can help me?
[05:10] <FAJ> !anyone
[05:10] <neutral> FAJ he will pastebin is xorg.conf for my to copy some things
[05:10] <cplab2-58> FAJ; i wanted the lastest ones...and there are dependencies also isn;t it...so do i get the dependenies automatically
[05:10] <krazyfingerz47> Can i program C in ubuntu? what suggestions you have about it
[05:10] <zaapiel> krazyfingerz47: use teh ruby or python
[05:10] <cplab2-58> FAJ; actually someone suggested previous;y that aptoncd would solve this issue
[05:10] <FAJ> cplab2-58:  no; you will see the dependencies in each package; you need to dll them too.
[05:10] <hotdog003> krazyfingerz47: Sure you can. You'll want a copy of build-essentials and a good Linux programming guide.
[05:10] <FAJ> cplab2-58:  i think they are crazy; i have never heard that :)
[05:11] <Aframester>      /msg nickserv register <35007> <aframester@gmail.com>
[05:11] <FAJ> neutral:  just be careful in there, good luck.
[05:11] <Aframester> crap
[05:11] <neutral> FAJ, thank you
[05:11] <hotdog003> Whoops. Nice one.
[05:11] <Aframester>  /msg nickserv register <your-password> <your-email>
[05:11] <musikgoat|main> so you've figured out you need to change that password then?
[05:11] <krazyfingerz47> hotdog003: but i dont want python man, i mean programming in C
[05:11] <LTL> neutral: http://paste.ubuntu.com/91364/
[05:11] <musikgoat|main> ;-)
[05:11] <Flannel> Aframester: no brackets around password or email, by the way.
[05:12] <hotdog003> krazyfingerz47: The 'build-essential' package has GCC (GNU C Compiler), and some other ones like "make".
[05:12] <gogzmer> krazyfingerz47: you can...apt-get install build-essentials
[05:12] <hotdog003> krazyfingerz47: I don't program in C, but it is totally possible.
[05:12] <LTL> neutral: backup the original
[05:12] <FAJ> LTL: neutral do not just copy his xorg.conf; your computer will have seizures.
[05:12] <Aframester> can anyone tell me if it worked this time
[05:12] <FAJ> LTL:  he is running nvidia.
[05:12] <gizmo> how to remove vuze from my hardisk?
[05:12] <musikgoat|main> krazyfingerz47: follow hotdog003's advice, build-essential package installed and a learn to c guidebook
[05:12] <Aframester> lol
[05:12] <cplab2-58> FAJ; hey this is difficult...there are so many packages and i have to select and download each one
[05:12] <FAJ> LTL:  no ati.
[05:12] <gizmo> anyone can help?
[05:12] <neutral> LTL, thank you
[05:12] <neutral> FAJ, i know
[05:12] <FAJ> neutral:  okk.
[05:13] <gogzmer> krazyfingerz47: C programming should only be used as pennance for other grevious programming sins, like abusing global variables
[05:13] <LTL> FAJ: i didnt tell him to 'use' it just enter the certain info.
[05:13] <FAJ> cplab2-58:  ya i know that is why ripping out the ethernet cable and plugging it into the other machine is useful
[05:13] <hotdog003> Ouch. C has its place, gogzmer. ;)
[05:13] <cplab2-58> musikgoat|main; hey this is DarkKnight
[05:13] <FAJ> LTL:  i just wanted to make sure; he sounded like he was just going to c?p
[05:13] <LTL> neutral: do NOT use the whole file!!!
[05:13] <gogzmer> hotdog003: yeah, but they get harder and harder to find each day
[05:13] <TestingTheTest> Thanks everybody... i either killed the zombie or it just died. :\ lol
[05:13] <krazyfingerz47> hotdog003: i know C already but i didnt know that c can be programmed in phyton
[05:13] <hotdog003> gogzmer: Perhaps. But if he's in a C programming course, python isn't going to help.
[05:14] <krazyfingerz47> hotdog003: anyways, thanks =]
[05:14] <hotdog003> krazyfingerz47: It can't.
[05:14] <gogzmer> TestingTheTest: Shotguns can be used to kill zombies too!
[05:14] <gizmo> i want to remuve azureus ...can anyone help me?
[05:14] <hotdog003> krazyfingerz47: Python was written in C
[05:14] <hotdog003> krazyfingerz47: They go well together or so I've heard
[05:14] <cplab2-58> FAJ; i have 65 machines.. the download speed comes upto 20kbps....i have to go for some other alternative
[05:14] <FAJ> gizmo:  sudo apt-get remove azureus
[05:14] <hotdog003> krazyfingerz47: But you can't program "C" in Python
[05:14] <gogzmer> hotdog003: true
[05:14] <krazyfingerz47> hotdog003: ohh
[05:14] <krazyfingerz47> hotdog003: i know that
[05:14] <krazyfingerz47> hotdog003: thats what i was saying
[05:14] <LTL> FAJ: good of you to prevent disaster, thank you.
[05:14] <musikgoat|main> cplab2-58: hi, whats going on?
[05:15] <krazyfingerz47> hotdog003: so what should i DL for programming C then
[05:15] <gogzmer> cplab2-58: you could try to set up your own repository within your LAN
[05:15] <FAJ> cplab2-58: i've never had to do that.... however once you dll all the packages on one flash drive, just make 65 copies and that may make life easier?
[05:15] <gogzmer> krazyfingerz47: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[05:15] <hotdog003> krazyfingerz47: Well, firstly, I'd suggest getting a Linux C programming guide. C programming on Linux is different than Windows.
[05:15] <FAJ> LTL:  unfortunately i don't know if he listened :\
[05:15] <hotdog003> krazyfingerz47: Secondly, you might consider an IDE like Eclipse
[05:16] <cplab2-58> musikgoat|main; i am in our computer lab...that's why i have a different name now...i used to chat with you using the name DarkKnight
[05:16] <LTL> FAJ: i think he understands, pretty sure.
[05:16] <\kira> Anyone know how I could moniter someone via the command line
[05:16] <\kira> ?
[05:16] <hotdog003> krazyfingerz47: Finally, you'll need the GNU C Compiler. That's inside the 'build-essentials' package. Just type the magic command: 'sudo aptitude install build-essentials' and you'll get it.
[05:16] <FAJ> LTL:  hence the reason why i just directed him to !resolutions "setting resolutions in xorg.conf"  ;)
[05:16] <musikgoat|main> cplab2-58: yup
[05:16] <\kira> moniter there GUI, is what I meant
[05:16] <musikgoat|main> cplab2-58: hi
[05:16] <gogzmer> \kira: how do you mean monitor someone?
[05:16] <Flannel> hotdog003: build-essential, not build-essentials
[05:16] <Photoguy> Hey, I'm downloading a (legal) torrent, can I pause it and restart, with out messing it up?
[05:16] <MasterShrek> !ati > MasterShrek
[05:16] <cplab2-58> FAJ; now how do i DLL all the files...actually while using aptoncd..i have created an iso of all useful packages
[05:16] <adr|gom> my Ubuntu install has been stuck at 100% (in the partitioning phase) for at least 45 minutes now...any ideas on what to do?
[05:16] <gizmo> is it normal if d/l using bit torent with a slow rate..?
[05:16] <hotdog003> krazyfingerz47: Right, what Flannel said, build-essential, not build-essentials. Thanks, Flannel.
[05:16] <cplab2-58> musikgoat|main; hi
[05:16] <gogzmer> \kira: on a remote machine?
[05:16] <krazyfingerz47> hotdog003: thanks a lot =]
[05:16] <\kira> gogzmer: lol, now that I think of it, it sounds kinda creepy :D. I want to see what they are viewing in firefox
[05:17] <\kira> gogzmer: yes, its remote. Im connected via ssh
[05:17] <hotdog003> krazyfingerz47: Good luck. Don't get yourself hurt out there in the wide world of C programming.
[05:17] <FAJ> cplab2-58: with aptoncd what will happen is that all it will do is take the cd and tell the computer WHICH packages to install FROM THE INTERNET
[05:17] <gogzmer> \kira: there is no good way
[05:17] <onetinsoldier> \kira: vlc, rdesktop, or FreeNX.. i think
[05:17] <krazyfingerz47> hotdog003: ^^ thanks
[05:17] <\kira> gogzmer: dang, thanks anyways :)
[05:17] <cplab2-58> musikgoat|main;  i have 65 systems and i have a single net connection to a system. I have to install packages for all the systems...need help
[05:17] <LTL> \kira: if they are in a 'screen' its easy, otherwise sudo tail -f /home/user/.bash_history might work in theory. never tried it.
[05:17] <onetinsoldier> \kira: oops, that first one should be VNC
[05:18] <\kira> onetinsoldier: I was hoping not through vnc, its not that important so i think ill just leave it. Thanks anyways
[05:18] <onetinsoldier> \kira: VNC, rdesktop, or FreeNX.. i think
[05:18] <FAJ> cplab2-58:  i have never done this before; but you could try only downloading those packages to a mother machine through the repos and then putting all of those on a flash drive; again cd would be best from here.
[05:18] <krazyfingerz47> hotdog003: and last thing, i installed 8.10 version recently, and i cant get any sound , it says that the sounds drivers are properly installed, and i changes the privileges of my account so i can have sound, but nothing... i don t get any sound
[05:18] <cplab2-58> FAJ; i have the iso image of all packages....now how do i use this to install
[05:18] <\kira> LTL: not screen the console program. I meant GUI, like firefox
[05:18] <musikgoat|main> cplab2-58: are you trying to be a repo proxy sort of thing, have packages available on the lan?  apt-proxy would be the best bet
[05:18] <cplab2-58> FAJ; with pendrive
[05:18] <FAJ> cplab2-58:  you will have to go to all of the computers and install all of the packages.....
[05:18] <gogzmer> \kira: if they have their computer properly secured, you will have a tough time...if you have access to their home directory, you could try to monitor their FF cache, but an easier way would be to start wireshark and have it pump you the sniffed packets
[05:19] <onetinsoldier> \kira: i hear that FreeNX is really good
[05:19] <musikgoat|main> cplab2-58: you want to do net installs, or just have the repo packages available on the lan?
[05:19] <LTL> \kira: no can do that i know of. unless your router may log activity or a syslog server
[05:19] <FAJ> cplab2-58: got it!
[05:20] <gizmo> is it normal d/l with bittorent with 36 peer?<---anyone can help me
[05:20] <hotdog003> krazyfingerz47: Hmm. To be honest, I'm not so sure how to help you. 8.10 uses PulseAudio for sound.
[05:20] <hotdog003> krazyfingerz47: Is your sound card listed?
[05:20] <\kira> gogzmer: im owner of the system, so I have sudo powers and everything. Im not trying to crack (or hack, depending on POF) someones machine. Just curious what they are up too at my house that requires java
[05:20] <FAJ> sudo dpkg -iR <directory>
[05:20] <FAJ> i think
[05:20] <FAJ> Flannel:  does that sound right?
[05:20] <gizmo> is it normal d/l with bittorent with 36 peer?<---anyone can help me
[05:20] <FAJ> b/c cplab2-58 see above^^
[05:20] <\kira> LTL: no, it doesnt. I tried that on another project. Thanks though, I think ill just leave it
[05:20] <Flannel> FAJ: What's the -R for?
[05:21] <FAJ> cplab2-58:  with that command you should be able to install all .deb packages on the flash drive; just change <directory> to where you need it to go
[05:21] <LTL> gizmo: yes it is normal
[05:21] <hotdog003> gizmo: 36 peers is actually pretty good.
[05:21] <mooglinux> after installing kubuntu, only kde apps are able to use sound when im in gnome
[05:21] <FAJ> Flannel:  b/c he needs to install a bunch of packages;not just one.
[05:21] <cplab2-58> musikgoat|main; i have installed all required packages on a system..i have lan connection to all systems///but net speed is very low...so somehow without downloading from net i have update all systems
[05:21] <LTL> cplab2-58: mount the iso on a lan box and point apt to that box/partition?
[05:21] <FAJ> Flannel:  -i|--install       <.deb file name> ... | -R|--recursive <directory> ...
[05:21] <gizmo> hotdog003, what is the normal time for d/l movie using bittorent?
[05:21] <\kira> mabye a keylogger would suffice, anyone want to reccommend a keylogger?
[05:21] <FAJ> LTL:  he can't get inet ;)
[05:21] <Flannel> FAJ: Ah, and they're not just globbable? sure, yeah.
[05:21] <\kira> perferably in the respritories, easy to use.
[05:22] <LTL> FAJ: do it across the lan, would that work?
[05:22] <hotdog003> gizmo: Generally between about a day and ten years and $500,000, depending on if you get caught.
[05:22] <FAJ> Flannel:  if i knew what that meant sure ;)
[05:22] <musikgoat|main> cplab2-58: i'd say apt-proxy, why cant you inet?
[05:22] <mooglinux> gizmo, it can take a long time. one or 2 days is not unrealistic
[05:22] <cplab2-58> FAJ; so you mean i just extract the iso image into pendrive and use it to install...
[05:22] <FAJ> LTL:  i guess you could do that, if all are collected.
[05:22] <gizmo> mooglinux, so its normal if it take long time/
[05:22] <mooglinux> yes. its not built for speed
[05:22] <FAJ> cplab2-58:  if you have all of the packages... then sudo dpkg -iR <directory path> *should* work...
[05:22] <cplab2-58> musikgoat|main; how do i use them....can you explain...is it easy
[05:22] <fwaokda> can i watch netflix instantly on ubuntu? (plz say yes)
[05:22] <Flannel> FAJ: *.deb is an example of globbing
[05:22] <FAJ> Flannel:  o ok
[05:23] <musikgoat|main> cplab2-58: http://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net/
[05:23] <hotdog003> gizmo: Totally. BitTorrent is a great way to efficiently distribute large files, but regardless, it still takes a long time.
[05:23] <cplab2-58> FAJ; what's -iR
[05:23] <LTL> fwaokda: theres is supposed to be a plugin for netflix, apt-cache search it
[05:23] <gizmo> yeah thats rite
[05:23] <FAJ> cplab2-58:  i dunno if you could do it over a lan,,, if all of the computers are connected,, but it looks like musikgoat|main has a apt-proxy package for you.
[05:23] <FAJ> cplab2-58:  that is install|recursive
[05:24] <musikgoat|main> cplab2-58: you put the mounted iso on the apt-proxy machine, then set the machines to get dl's from the local proxy, and anything the server doesn't have or is old, will get updated from the official repo
[05:24] <FAJ> musikgoat|main:  good catch!  that's a nice package.
[05:24] <musikgoat|main> its useful for slow wan
[05:24] <fwaokda> LTL, i see something for mythtv but thats it
[05:25] <Kakinho> reiniciando........
[05:26] <musikgoat|main> cplab2-58: you likely would want to install the packaged version, instead of building it like the site says...
[05:27] <onetinsoldier> WebcamWonder: hello. so did you get pidgin compiled and installed ok?
[05:27] <cplab2-58> musikgoat|main; i am going through the site...but what does building mean
[05:27] <musikgoat|main> cplab2-58: this may be useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptProxy
[05:27] <WebcamWonder> onetinsoldier: Nope. build-dep never worked. I just reverted back to 2.5.2
[05:27] <LTL> fwaokda: i see various hacks googling it, try google 'ubuntu +netflix'  doesnt look promising, yet...
[05:28] <musikgoat|main> cplab2-58: building is taking the source code of an application and running commands to configure it for your distribution and hardware
[05:28] <onetinsoldier> WebcamWonder: whaa? build-dep worked fine for me. hmmm
[05:28] <musikgoat|main> cplab2-58: as in the .deb's are pre-built packages
[05:28] <WebcamWonder> onetinsoldier: It just said failed to resolve dependencies...
[05:28] <WebcamWonder> onetinsoldier: Thanks for helping anyways!
[05:28] <onetinsoldier> WebcamWonder: huh, i wonder what that's about
[05:28] <fwaokda> LTL, ya it doesn't :(  I'd watch it through my windows on virtualbox but my sound isn't 100% working on it yet
[05:28] <KillerOrca> ok, I just cloned my ubuntu install using clonezilla, unplugged the old harddisk, booted up, and on the screen it just scrolls "GRUB, GRUB, GRUB", now what?
[05:28] <cplab2-58> musikgoat|main; actuually i have to make fast updations to all the systems...can you explain how to do this...i suppose going for the packages is a better idea
[05:29] <onetinsoldier> WebcamWonder: ok, you're welcome. better luck next time
[05:29] <WebcamWonder> onetinsoldier: Yeah. That was my first attempt to compile something. Disaster :D
[05:29] <LTL> KillerOrca: infinite loop, nasty.
[05:29] <LTL> KillerOrca: ctrl+c work?
[05:30] <onetinsoldier> WebcamWonder: i'm very surprised it didn't work, weird
[05:30] <KillerOrca> LTL, didn't seem to, I hit it and it just kept scrolling
[05:30] <LTL> KillerOrca: boot off a cd and peruse /boot/grub/menu.lst  ...something is amiss.
[05:30] <kitche> KillerOrca: you most likely have to reinstall grub
[05:31] <MrWindex> hey all.  quick question. what's the name of that CPU/Memory/ status program that runs as a side bar. and can I get it with apt-get?
[05:31] <hotdog003> Hey, I feel silly. There was a program that shows you the UUID of all block devices attached to your system, but I simply cannot remember it for the life of me. What was it?
[05:31] <hotdog003> MrWindex: Conky?
[05:31] <KillerOrca> LTL, well there is a little issue there, system is not fast enough for a normal livecd had to install with alternate one
[05:31] <KillerOrca> kitche, how would I reinstall grub?
[05:31] <onetinsoldier> hotdog003: blkid?
[05:31] <MrWindex> hotdog003: YES! thank you
[05:32] <hotdog003> onetinsoldier: DUDE YOU ROCK.
[05:32] <kitche> !grub > KillerOrca just follow the instructs in the link
[05:32] <dgarr>  hotdog003: ls -lR /dev/disk
[05:32] <hotdog003> Thank you.
[05:32] <LTL> hotdog003: or blkid
[05:32] <onetinsoldier> hotdog003: ok, lol. you're welcome
[05:32] <hotdog003> dgarr: Thanks. That works too.
[05:33] <neutral> LTL FAJ thank you, couldnt solve it but its late
[05:33] <neutral> have to go
[05:34] <spanther> take care :)
[05:34] <KillerOrca> kitche, not sure since I just skimmed the instructions, but does it matter which ubuntu livecd version I use?
[05:34] <LTL> neutral: sorry man
[05:34] <cplab2-58> musikgoat|main; you there
[05:34] <kitche> KillerOrca: shouldn't
[05:34] <neutral> LTL, no problem
[05:34] <neutral> LTL, tank you
[05:34] <neutral> thank you*
[05:35] <KillerOrca> kitche, thanks, will give it a go
[05:35] <musikgoat|main> cplab2-58: apt-proxy or apt-cacher are good for the slow wan, but to update all the machines, you could try just ssh'ing into each (if sshd is running) and running an update script, that should be fine if you know the ip's of the machines, and have the user privilege to update
[05:36] <cplab2-58> musikgoat|main; so how do i do that ssh'ing...can you explain me.....
[05:36] <cplab2-58> musikgoat|main; i have the priviledges
[05:36] <musikgoat|main> do you know the ip of a box you want to update?
[05:37] <musikgoat|main> ssh username@ipaddress
[05:37] <cplab2-58> musikgoat|main; is box--sytem
[05:38] <cplab2-58> musikgoat|main; is box--system
[05:38] <musikgoat|main> yes, sorry
[05:38] <hotdog003> cplab2-58: Yes, we say "box" as shorthand for "computer"
[05:38] <cplab2-58> musikgoat|main, hotdog003; okk then i'll follow this stylew
[05:39] <musikgoat|main> cplab2-58: so...  ssh username@ipaddress sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:39] <cplab2-58> musikgoat|main; i know the ip addresses of all the stsetms
[05:39] <musikgoat|main> i think that'd work
[05:39] <cplab2-58> musikgoat|main; i know the ip addresses of all the boxes
[05:39] <musikgoat|main> ok
[05:39] <hotdog003> musikgoat|main: No, that'd run the apt-get update command on the remote box and then run the apt-get upgrade command on the local box because of the ; , I think.
[05:40] <musikgoat|main> hotdog003: yeah, your right, the ssh session will end
[05:40] <cplab2-58> musikgoat|main; now the box from which i m chatting with you has net connection...so from this box i have to run that coomand is it??
[05:40] <anfangs> is it OK to burn a CD iso to DVD?
[05:40] <musikgoat|main> so add the ssh username@ip before each command, separated by the ;  if you want to keep it all on one line
[05:40] <hotdog003> cplab2-58, muskigoat|main: Try ssh username@ipaddress 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade' with the ''s.
[05:41] <ibe> tes
[05:41] <supasteri> anyone had success with suspend and sony vaio z12?
[05:41] <musikgoat|main> hotdog003: right
[05:41] <supasteri> ibex 8.10
[05:42] <cplab2-58> hotdog003; s.  ??
[05:42] <hotdog003> cplab2-58: Sorry. What I meant was surrounding the aptitude-update and such with a single quote.
[05:42] <musikgoat|main> cplab2-58: you want to ssh to the system/box that you want to want to update the packages on,  but if you want the packages to be updated from the server with the iso, then you must setup apt-proxy or apt-cacher on that server first
[05:42] <hotdog003> cplab2-58: Like this. ssh username@ipaddress 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade'
[05:42] <LTL> cplab2-58: he meant without the quotes i think
[05:43] <musikgoat|main> no, with
[05:43] <hotdog003> LTL: No, with the single quote because the ssh session would end after the first command without.
[05:43] <LTL> cplab2-58: he mean WITH the quotes SO soorry
[05:43] <LTL> hotdog003: my bad, excuse me.
[05:44] <hotdog003> And... wait... one last thing, you don't want your password showing up on screen, so do ssh -t I guess.
[05:45] <musikgoat|main> hotdog003: good call,  and -y to the apt-get commands to have them automate and say yes to everything
[05:45] <Teey> hello
[05:45] <hotdog003> Aha.
[05:45] <musikgoat|main> ssh -t username@ipaddress 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade -y'
[05:46] <LTL> musikgoat|main: hotdog003 very clever!
[05:48] <musikgoat|main> now, if you really want to automate things, look up ssh keys, and setup a script to hit all the ip's with this command, but that would take some reading
[05:48] <musikgoat|main> s/look up/set up
[05:49] <\kira> Whats a program for linux that can read sqlite databases?
[05:49] <Flannel> \kira: sqlite
[05:50] <\kira> Flannel: explain please? Im trying to read the .sqlite format. Is the program called sqlite?
[05:50] <five> How do i drag and drop files from my desktop into a virtuabox of windows xp?
[05:50] <\kira> five: try installing guest additions
[05:50] <Flannel> \kira: there is.
[05:50] <\kira> Flannel: thanks
[05:50] <five> ok thnx /kira
[05:51] <\kira> five: im not sure if guest additions allows you to do that, but if it doesnt, just set up a shared folder and copy them over.
[05:51] <Ward1983> how can i find out why one of my kernels stops with a black screen?
[05:51] <\kira> five: your welcome :)
[05:51] <lasalite> can i get help?
[05:51] <CaptainMorgan> !ask | lasalite
[05:51] <lasalite> hey all
[05:51] <Flannel> !ask | lasalite
[05:52] <lasalite> ok thanks
[05:52] <\kira> Ward1983: we dont support custom kernels, just a note :)
[05:52] <musikgoat|main> mmm, CaptainMorgan, sounds good, i'll take another
[05:52] <Ward1983> \kira, so i cannot even ask how i can find out what goes wrong? its bad enough allready that there is no xen kernel in the repo's
[05:52] <lasalite> i have xubuntu, and i have java already installed, however when i visit a jre webpage , it says it isnt installed
[05:53] <\kira> Ward1983: you can ask, but dont expect support. It was just a note, I think people will tell you how to find out what went wrong, if they know, but dont hope for it.
[05:53] <lasalite> ok
[05:53] <sikun> i am trying to get my wireless working.. well at least the connectivity, i have a atheros card so the card is working. but i am trying to connect to a ad-hoc network setup on a windows machine but will not connect, the windows machine shows it connected but no signal strength
[05:53] <Ward1983> \kira, lots of ubuntu supported things here i never got an answer on so... i'm used to it
[05:54] <Phase> Whats the package with all the normal compiling tools, etc?
[05:54] <cplab2-58> musikgoat|main; i think i have to install ssh??
[05:54] <\kira> Ward1983: sorry I cant help you :)
[05:55] <Flannel> Phase: build-essential
[05:55] <n2diy> cplab2-58, libcdev, or something like that.
[05:55] <lasalite> phase: me?
[05:55] <hotdog003> cplab2-58: On the receiving computer, type this: sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[05:55] <Phase> Flannel, thanks
[05:55] <musikgoat|main> cplab2-58: alot of installs come with sshd, but you'd have to check locally if its running,  are you getting errors?
[05:55] <Ward1983> \kira, no problem, i'm jsut a bit annoyed because i jsut read there is no xen support in 8.10, and then you told me custom kernels were not supported, bad timing i guess :p
[05:55] <Flannel> musikgoat|main: No Ubuntu installs come with sshd
[05:55] <Ward1983> \kira, didn't mean anything by it
[05:56] <cplab2-58> musikgoat, hotdog003; do i have to install ssh on ther system with net and also on the recieving computers
[05:56] <\kira> Ward1983: well, good luck :) Im sure there is other channels (or forums) that might be able to help you
[05:56] <Ward1983> \kira, im allready in #linux aswell, but thought i'd ask here too since i use ubuntu
[05:56] <\kira> Ward1983: yea, I do that too :D
[05:56] <musikgoat|main> Flannel: sorry, guess i've just expected it
[05:57] <n2diy> Ward1983, \kira tyr #kernel?
[05:57] <n2diy> try
[05:57] <LTL> cplab2-58: you need openssh-server on all boxes
[05:57] <Ward1983> n2diy, didnt even know it existed, but isnt that overkill? lol
[05:58] <cplab2-58> LTL; is that the only thing???
[05:58] <acecase> when I boot the liveCD then run the install, do I get the same modules, etc that are available on the LiveCD or just what it needed for my system?
[05:58] <LTL> cplab2-58: thats also the package name for client-server package
[05:58] <hotdog003> cplab2-58: SSH lets you log in to other computers. That should be all you need.
[05:58] <LTL> cplab2-58: it should run upon install
[05:59] <n2diy> Ward1983, well if your playing with a kernel, that's where I would go. Your playing a long shot here, no?
[05:59] <cplab2-58> LTL, hotdog003; so i just need ssh and ssh-sever..
[05:59] <Ward1983> n2diy, i allready asked :)
[05:59] <Ward1983> n2diy, its just a kernel from a deb i didnt compile it
[05:59] <LTL> hotdog003: doesnt he need sshd running on all boxes?
[05:59] <five> it says failed to download the guest additions iso, is there another way to get it
[05:59] <Ward1983> n2diy, compiling will be for tomorrow is nobody can help me :p
[05:59] <Ward1983> if
[06:00] <acecase> I want to install ubuntu, add some packages, and turn that into a new LiveCD, but I'm afraid I won't have the great hardware support by default that the ubuntu LiveCD has.
[06:00] <n2diy> Ward1983, ok, I'm late to the game here, why do you think the kernel is your problem?
[06:00] <lukeekblad> Hello, I just downloaded Savage2Install-1.5.0-i686(2).bin onto my desktop but I dont know how to run it.  Can someone please tell me how?  thanks
[06:00] <cplab2-58> LTL, hotdog003; ssh has dependencies on openssh-client, openssh-sever
[06:00] <Ward1983> n2diy, because only that specific kernel doesnt boot (its a xen kernel, not from the repos)
[06:00] <hotdog003> LTL: Yes, he does. SSHD should be running.
[06:01] <Ward1983> n2diy, well i mean it boots fine but stops with a black screen, but doesnt crash
[06:01] <hotdog003> cplab2-58: That's normal.
[06:01] <LTL> cplab2-58: package openssh-server installs client and server, i believe you need the server running on all boxes.
[06:01] <acecase> lukeekblad you don't. it is an image. you mount/burn the image. Don't know what Savage2Install is
[06:01] <giganto> hi all, i installed wordpress via apt but i can't seem to find / launch it
[06:02] <n2diy> Ward1983, ok, not familiar with Xen, but I have had problems with insuffecient ram doing that to me.
[06:02] <lukeekblad> acecase:   well, thats the name of the file.  Its a game called savage 2
[06:02] <Ward1983> n2diy, 4GB , 64bit :p
[06:02] <cplab2-58> LTL; so i just need to select ssh and the others get installed
[06:02] <LTL> cplab2-58: get them both with one package, standard procedure.
[06:02] <acecase> lukeekblad if it's a game then you will want to burn it to a disk or mount the image to install it
[06:02] <n2diy> Ward1983, ummm, ok! :)
[06:02] <Aframester> do i appear registered yet
[06:02] <Starnestommy> Aframester: registered where?
[06:02] <LTL> cplab2-58: openssh-server package has all you need.
[06:03] <Aframester> oh my nick
[06:03] <Starnestommy> Aframester: no
[06:03] <sleepy_cat> can u play win98 games in ubuntu 8.04
[06:03] <acecase> lukeekblad google [burn ".bin" images]
[06:03] <Ward1983> n2diy, could it be it doesnt support that xrandr thing? (i didnt even know about it since a few days ago0
[06:03] <n2diy> Ward1983, and I have had problems with mixed, unmatched ram?
[06:03] <Somali-Pirate> #trivia???
[06:03] <woody86> When setting up multiple computers with f@h do I need to spcify machine1, machine2, etc in the setup or does it not matter?
[06:03] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[06:03] <Ward1983> n2diy, no the ram is perfectly fine :) they are matched
[06:03] <n2diy> Ward1983, never heard of xrandr?
[06:04] <silv3r_m00n> can quanta be configured such that... it keeps a local copy of files and upon request it uploads it to the ftp server ?
[06:04] <LTL> Aframester: freenode will email an activation notice before you can login.
[06:04] <acecase> I have to ask myself why some of these people are running linux. Didn't windows come with the puter they got for their birthday?
[06:04] <Aframester> ok thx
[06:04] <n2diy> Ward1983, ok, can't add anything now? GL.
[06:04] <giganto> hi all, i installed wordpress via apt but can't seem to find it anywhere, where would it be located??
[06:04] <Ward1983> n2diy, something new since 8.10, apperantly xorg.conf is not beign used anymore or something (thats what someone told me)
[06:05] <hotdog003> giganto: http://localhost/wordpress, perhaps?
[06:05] <Starnestommy> Aframester: you need to do it using the steps at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup and you need to pay attention to any error messages you get from nickserv
[06:05] <Ward1983> n2diy, i dunno what you mean by that
[06:05] <cplab2-58> LTL; this has to be installed on all systems?
[06:05] <hotdog003> giganto: You could always to dpkg -L wordpress to see what files that package installed.
[06:05] <hotdog003> cplab2-58: Yes, if you want to do it remotely.
[06:05] <n2diy> Ward1983, GL, good luck, I'm stumped.
[06:05] <LTL> cplab2-58: im afraid so, no other way to do it.
[06:05] <Ward1983> n2diy, ah sure thanx anyway
[06:05] <n2diy> Ward1983, GL
[06:06] <cplab2-58> LTL; ya i am doing that
[06:06] <Ward1983> n2diy, thanx
[06:06] <musikgoat|main> cplab2-58: i guess that goes back to your original problem,  have you checked if the lan machines are accepting connections?
[06:06] <Aframester>  /msg nickserv register 35007 Aframester
[06:06] <Aframester> dang
[06:06] <Starnestommy> Aframester: never put spaces before the /
[06:06] <Aframester> i give up
[06:06] <wrc> helloooo
[06:06] <sikun> i cannot connect to a windows ad-hoc network.. the ubuntu machine attempts to connect then fails, on the windows machine it shows it is connected but says no signal.. what would be wrong?
[06:06] <Starnestommy> Aframester: and it's /msg nickserv register your-password your-email
[06:07] <Aframester> thx
[06:07] <n2diy> Ward1983, thanx: tnx
[06:07] <cplab2-58> musikgoat|main; but without ssh i dont think we can connect
[06:07] <LTL> Ward1983: if its a fresh install of 8.10, then xserver.xorg isnt used, from what i gather, upgraded versions still use it
[06:08] <LTL> Ward1983: intrepid updated my xorg.conf so thats a fact.
[06:08] <Ward1983> LTL, that makes it even more confusing! :o
[06:08] <musikgoat|main> have you checked? do you know if whoever installed the systems may have installed the ssh server package?
[06:09] <cplab2-58> musikgoat|main; wait a sec please...i m checking it out
[06:09] <LTL> Ward1983: 8.10 fresh install doesnt need xorg.conf, upgrading prior versions of ubuntu will continue to use it.
[06:10] <lukeekblad> ace2001ac8:   so I actually have the mount the game to a disk to play it?
[06:10] <nDevastator> are there any virtualization softwares out there for 8.04 that don't cost $$$
[06:10] <nDevastator> that allow use of an existing partition
[06:10] <LTL> cplab2-58: on any remote box do a netstat -tunap  if port 22 is listening, sshd is running youre good to go.
[06:10] <n8tuser> nDevastator-> time is money, so none
[06:11] <hotdog003> nDevastator: QEMU
[06:11] <Aframester> now did it work?
[06:11] <hotdog003> But it's slow
[06:11] <nDevastator> !QEMU
[06:11] <hotdog003> sssslllloooowwww
[06:11] <Starnestommy> Aframester: yes
[06:11] <hotdog003> Maybe libvirt could do that. I'm not sure.
[06:11] <LTL> Aframester: your logged in ok.
[06:11] <Starnestommy> hotdog003: not with kqemu or if it's kvm
[06:11] <Aframester> lolz thx for ur help
[06:11] <Ward1983> LTL, as i said: thats even more confusing (yet i understand)
[06:11] <hotdog003> Starnestommy: True, but those only work for the high-end Intel and AMD chips.
[06:11] <sleepy_cat> is there any way to get the windows 98 game ro run on ubuntu
[06:11] <Starnestommy> Aframester: by the way, for help with freenode the best channel is #freenode
[06:11] <Aframester> thx
[06:12] <Starnestommy> hotdog003: they work on a relatively low-end AMD chip that I got last year
[06:12] <cplab2-58> musikgoat|main; i am booting the system...and i'll teel you
[06:13] <cplab2-58_> musikgoat|main; i am booting the system...and i'll just tell you
[06:13] <musikgoat|main> ok
[06:13] <nDevastator> !grep
[06:13] <LTL> Ward1983: its all about running x windows, the hal daemon makes the settings, so a configuration file isn't needed.
[06:14] <cplab2-58_> musikgoat|main; i tried it...it says connectiosn refused
[06:14] <Ward1983> LTL, still i allways had to use xorg.conf so its confusing for me
[06:14] <cplab2-58_> musikgoat|main; i tried it...it says connection refused
[06:14] <LTL> Ward1983: did you upgrade from hardy to intrepid?
[06:15] <cplab2-58_> musikgoat|main; i tried it...it says connection refused
[06:15] <woody86> Can anyone help me out? My 64bit machine keeps on dropping the network connection, and requires a reboot to be able to connect again. I only have a minute or two before it drops the connection, so I can't even run the updater.
[06:15] <justizin> hello, I have IPMI KVM access to our managed / hosted server, and the provider gives us a Windows client.  As IPMI is a standard, I wonder if there are any f/oss, esp linux viewers avail.  in ubuntu repos would be a super plus to make my netbook a killer utility rather effortlessly :)
[06:15] <musikgoat|main> cplab2-58_: ok, i saw your messages
[06:15] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[06:16] <Brack10> hi I'm having trouble with server 2008 on vbox so I added the repo to my software sources to get the latest version, but my synaptic is not showing the latest version after updating.  Could someone please help?
[06:16] <LTL> cplab2-58_: one thing even if its running you need to use a login switch to an existing account on that remote box
[06:16] <musikgoat|main> cplab2-58_: , so you'd need to install openssh-server then to allow access from a central place...
[06:16] <justizin> woody86: what kind of conn?  any reason you'd think this problem is particular to 64bit-ness?
[06:16] <silv3r_m00n> i need help on quanta plus (webdev tool) how can i keep a local folder for a site and upload it when needed ... ?
[06:16] <LTL> cplab2-58_: example ssh -l user ip-address or you get refused.
[06:16] <silv3r_m00n> like dreamweaver
[06:17] <cplab2-58_> musikgoat|main, LTL; ssh username@ipaddress sudo apt-get update     this was the command that i had run
[06:17] <woody86> justizin, well it worked fine when I installed 32 bit to test it out, then I installed 64 bit and it's buggy
[06:17] <LTL> cplab2-58_: that should work, sshd must not be installed/running
[06:17] <woody86> justizin, it's a 64 bit machine' fyi
[06:18] <LTL> cplab2-58_: sshd is the server daemon
[06:18] <cplab2-58_> LTL; so i need openssh-sever..i am going to install it
[06:18] <LTL> cplab2-58_: affirmative
[06:18] <woody86> justizin, and it's a wireless connection
[06:19] <Ward1983> LTL, no fresh install, i have no problems with my graphics
[06:19] <LTL> Ward1983: yeah, forget xorg.conf, you dont need/use it anymore.
[06:20] <cplab2-58_> LTL; hey where can i get these package files...so that i dont have to download for every box
[06:21] <LTL> cplab2-58_: note- you need that package on every single box....eek.
[06:22] <cplab2-58_> LTL; ya... so instead of downloading i can use the packages on every system
[06:22] <LTL> cplab2-58_: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[06:22] <muhammad> ikutdong_87@yahoo.com
[06:23] <_hase> Hi I just bought a new MP3 player, an apparently it only plays video files that are in .smv format, but I have not been able to find anything that will convert avis to smvs
[06:23] <Aframester> im new to ubuntu and linux in general can anyone suggest some good reading
[06:23] <Aframester> im tired on MS
[06:24] <_hase> Can ffmpeg be used to convert avis to smvs the way it works with mpegs or no?
[06:24] <hotdog003> Aframester: A book called "How Linux Works" is pretty sweet. You could look up Wikipedia, perhaps the Ubuntu community documentation.
[06:24] <hotdog003> The best way to learn is by doing.
[06:24] <Flannel> Aframester: help.ubuntu.com
[06:25] <LTL> Aframester: start here- https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/index.html
[06:25] <Aframester> im doing (fingers crossed)
[06:25] <Aframester> thx
[06:25] <_hase> I found a freeware windows program that supposedly does this but I hate wine with a passion
[06:25] <lasts> I'm having some problems with my keyboard/mouse after an upgrade to ubuntu intrepid. For the keyboard: altgr and left/down keys are not responding; for the mouse: no more copy/paste with the middle click. I've tried to change the keyboard and mouse config using the gui, but no success (105 keys already, so...). Any ideas?
[06:27] <LTL> lasts: try system - preferences - keyboard, or system -admin - hardware testing
[06:27] <LTL> lasts: disable effects first
[06:27] <lasts> effects are disabled; I've tried the first
[06:27] <woody86> Can anyone help me out? My 64bit machine keeps on dropping the network connection, and requires a reboot to be able to connect again. I only have a minute or two before it drops the connection, so I can't even run the updater.
[06:28] <lasts> the second one is only sending infos to the developpers, no?
[06:28] <LTL> lasts: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard [might work] in a terminal
[06:28] <lasts> ok
[06:29] <lasts> hum
[06:29] <lasts> well, keyboard is not a package :D
[06:29] <krazyfingerz47> i have no sound, anyone helps?
[06:29] <LTL> lasts: check here- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InputDevices
[06:29] <lasts> thanks
[06:30] <n8tuser> woody86-> would you mind switching back to 32bit?
[06:30] <lianimator> if I set my nvidia card to run on full speed (highest frequency), does turning off compiz reduce memory consumption?
[06:32] <LTL> lianimator: turning off compiz saves memory no doubt about it.
[06:32] <LTL> lianimator: not to mention cpu also.
[06:32] <lianimator> *oops, I meant battery consumption..
[06:33] <lasts> hmm LTL, the wiki doesn't help
[06:33] <LTL> lianimator: battery, i would guess, some, yes.
[06:34] <lianimator> I've set my nvidia to always run on full speed.
[06:34] <lasts> I'm not trying to use special keys, just traditional keys
[06:34] <lianimator> (workaround to flash screen problem)
[06:34] <peaces> my laptop never overheated when i had windows installed, but now since i have switched to ubuntu it does quite a bit.  Is there a way to increase the rpms on my fan or some other setting i can change to fix this?
[06:34] <lasts> before the upgrade to ubuntu intrepid, they were working..
[06:35] <obf213> hey im trying to change with plug ins my firefox uses i downloaed the mplayer ones and the vlc ones, when i go to options then applications, i dont see any of the vlc ones, so i want to add them as a thirdy option, however when ever i find the plugin file and select it, it never gets added.
[06:35] <obf213> before i installed the mplayer files vlc was the other options listed besides the defualt
[06:37] <Brack10> ok so I'm trying to install vbox 2.1.0 so I added the software source and did sudo apt-get install virtualbox-2.1 which worked ifne
[06:37] <Brack10> fine*
[06:37] <LTL> lasts: HAL probably commented the keyboard/mouse configs out of /etc/X11/xorg.conf take a peek at it.
[06:37] <Brack10> but now I can't start it
[06:37] <Brack10> virtualbox and virtualbox-2.1 do nothing
[06:37] <maco> Brack10: dont forget to install the kernel modules
[06:37] <lasts> yeah, it did LTL
[06:37] <Brack10> maco: I did
[06:37] <lasts> but I don't what is HAL or how to config it
[06:37] <maco> Brack10: ok. then i have no idea.
[06:37] <Brack10> do I need virtualbox-ose?
[06:37] <maco> Brack10: that's an older version of vbox
[06:37] <Brack10> I'm using non-free
[06:37] <lasts> the /etc/hal/ is kinda empty
[06:37] <Brack10> ok
[06:38] <maco> Brack10: -ose is the free one
[06:38] <Tonno> Hi everyone, I am looking for a program that let me transfer file to other user, I mean... I have the amsn, but the transfer is to slowly to the other user, so I want a program that let me transfer that file to that one "user".... just like a torrent, is there is one?
[06:38] <maco> Brack10: but the version of it in the repos is older
[06:38] <Brack10> so virtualbox in the terminal should work then?
[06:38] <zamaran> donde carajo hay alguna mierda de chat en castellano con esta poronga?
[06:38] <peaces> is there a way to increase my fan rpm's or any other setting i could change to stop my laptop from overheating so much?
[06:38] <_hase> Ok well through googling and the ubuntu forums I found something that should hopefully work called smv_encode
[06:38] <maco> Brack10: you can see if it throws any errors
[06:38] <Brack10> The program 'virtualbox' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[06:38] <maco> peaces: check that your thermal compound hasn't dried up
[06:38] <LTL> lasts: well, hal is messing you up. other than tweaking xorg.conf i don't have an answer.
[06:39] <maco> Brack10: maybe it has another command name?
[06:39] <peaces> maco: its a laptop
[06:39] <Brack10> virtualbox-2.1 is already the newest version.
[06:39] <maco> peaces: so?
[06:39] <zamaran> nadie entendio una verga no?
[06:39] <lasts> LTL, can I remove HAL ? :)
[06:39] <zamaran> ok chao!!!
[06:39] <LTL> lasts: absolutely not
[06:39] <peaces> maco: a new on at that.  And I have no idea how to check that on a laptop
[06:39] <b3z3rk3r> anyone in here familiar with synergy
[06:39] <gizmo> can i serve mp3 dcc in Xchat?
[06:39] <maco> peaces: open up the bottom, unscrew the heatsink, and look
[06:39] <ushimitsudoki> b3z3rk3r:  i use it
[06:39] <maco> peaces: unless it's a macbook, you should be able to see it
[06:40] <LTL> gizmo: you can send
[06:40] <gizmo> i mean like serving people..
[06:40] <Tonno> Hi everyone, I am looking for a program that let me transfer file to other user, I mean... I have the amsn, but the transfer is to slowly to the other user, so I want a program that let me transfer that file to that one "user".... just like a torrent, is there is one?
[06:40] <b3z3rk3r> ushimitsudoki, im looking to setup a windows/ubuntu synergy but im failing quite bad :P  any ideas?
[06:40] <gizmo> whos request song..
[06:40] <obf213> any ideas about this plug in thing? after i removed mplayer plugin VLC pluging showed up as alternative to defaults however before when i tried to add VLC manually it didn't work
[06:40] <ushimitsudoki> b3z3rk3r: sorry don't care about windows can't help there
[06:40] <peaces> maco: i would consider that but its only 3 months old, and i never had any overheating with windows
[06:41] <maco> peaces: oh.  maybe you can get the cpu to run at a lower speed?
[06:41] <LTL> gizmo: i'm not that familiar with xchat, it may be scriptable.
[06:41] <Tonno> Hi everyone, I am looking for a program that let me transfer file to other user, I mean... I have the amsn, but the transfer is to slowly to the other user, so I want a program that let me transfer that file to that one "user".... just like a torrent, is there is one?
[06:41] <b3z3rk3r> ushimitsudoki, ok.. how about linux/linux setup? i can adapt for windows as it has a good gui unlike linux
[06:41] <maco> peaces: im not sure how to force a max speed on the cpu. if  you install powertop, you can see what apps are causing the most power usage (and thus the most heat)
[06:41] <muhammad> halo
[06:41] <asanhunt> hello
[06:42] <Guest36679> halo
[06:42] <Guest36679> hai
[06:42] <maco> Tonno: dropbox?
[06:42] <Guest36679> jablai
[06:42] <ushimitsudoki> b3z3rk3r: there is quicksynergy a gui for synergy in the repos if you need a gui. put that on the server. run synergyc HOST on the client.
[06:42] <maco> Tonno: its an online storage thing with a desktop client
[06:43] <Guest36679> wah
[06:43] <commander_> hi guys
[06:43] <Guest36679> hii
[06:43] <b3z3rk3r> ushimitsudoki, so after i have the server setup, i just run synergyc (client side) and voila?
[06:43] <commander_> why doesn't cheese work on ubuntu 8.10?
[06:43] <WebGuest> hey can someone help me out with what I am assuming to be a GRUB problem?  I just installed ubuntu with an existing windows xp pro x4 install for dualbooting.  The ubuntu installation went without a hitch, no errors but when I rebooted after the install my computer just automatically booted windows xp.
[06:43] <commander_> the webcam software
[06:44] <Guest36679> dont have
[06:44] <ushimitsudoki> b3z3rk3r: in the quicksynergy - if you are using the gui - put the client name in the appropriate location. If you don't use the gui, you need to edit the config files yourself. They are pretty straight forward. then yes, it's just a voila. keyboard/mouse/clipboard will be "shared"
[06:44] <simpleos> This remind anyone of Cthulthu? http://saltaquarium.about.com/library/graphics/cuttleeatinggoldfishDunlop_400.JPG
[06:44] <simpleos> sorry for riduciolsy long link
[06:44] <asanhunt> I am interested in some help with Ubuntu setup... I'm trying to learn how to "enable" my currently disabled wlan0
[06:45] <simpleos> soory! wrong window!
[06:45] <b3z3rk3r> ushimitsudoki, also, how do i get it to start automatically from adding synergy as a session? synergyc right?
[06:45] <obf213> how do i tell firefox to use already installed plugins?
[06:45] <ushimitsudoki> b3z3rk3r: sure, just launch the appropriate commands at startup. "synergyc HOST" will be from the client.
[06:46] <b3z3rk3r> ushimitsudoki, great thx, il give it a go now!  :)
[06:47] <ushimitsudoki> b3z3rk3r: good luck!
[06:47] <b3z3rk3r> ushimitsudoki, ty :P
[06:47] <nDevastator> help my system just powered off unexpectedly and now my screen resolution is messed up and my normal resolutions arent available
[06:47] <hashbrowns> hey can someone help me out with what I am assuming to be a GRUB problem?  I just installed ubuntu with an existing windows xp pro x4 install for dualbooting.  The ubuntu installation went without a hitch, no errors but when I rebooted after the install my computer just automatically booted windows xp.
[06:48] <pikke> i kissed the rains down in aaaaafrica
[06:48] <pikke> sorry, wrong window
[06:49] <hashbrowns> x64 **
[06:49] <LTL> hashbrowns: read /boot/grub/menu.lst  does chainloader appear at the bottom along with title and xp windows
[06:49] <Suhail> doesn't apt-get create a /etc/mysql dir for you with a default my.cnf file?
[06:50] <hashbrowns> LTL: when i tried to open that file via a terminal session on the live CD,  cd /boot/grub said that it didnt exist
[06:50] <nDevastator> anyone know why an unexpected power off might cause my screen resolution to change
[06:50] <cQ> i think ubuntu will crash hardware.who can support this?
[06:51] <quik__> is ubuntu 8.10 considered stable?
[06:51] <quik__> compared to 8.04LTS
[06:51] <Ricket> cQ: PEBKAC
[06:51] <cQ> ubuntu not stable
[06:51] <ushimitsudoki> quik__: It was a bit flaky for me right after the upgrade, but now is perfectly fine
[06:51] <yaris123456789> hey guys when i run test.pl in command line it works, but whe i run it in browser, it throws 500 internal server error.......
[06:51] <LTL> hashbrowns: if you were looking at the ubuntu partition, i'd say you need to fix grub
[06:52] <obf213> hey this is pretty rediculous. to get a plug in to work i had to uninstall the plugins that superceded it.
[06:52] <quik__> ushimitsudoki: as a desktop?
[06:52] <obf213> this means to get the vlc plugin to work i had to remove all the totem ones etc
[06:52]  * quik__ will be running server
[06:52] <ushimitsudoki> quik__: yes main desktop
[06:52] <obf213> any ideas as to why this is? why i couldnt simply add the vlc plugins to firefox since they were already downloaded?
[06:52] <cQ> i openmy laptop,then i can hear the long "bep" sound.play song then can hear " bizz" or something from speaker.
[06:53] <Ricket> quik__: i'd say it's probably safe to assume each official release of ubuntu is more stable than the previous release, in general. software typically progresses towards more stable as time goes on... microsoft being the exception, of course.
[06:53] <quik__> wrong button :)
[06:53] <Ricket> cQ: i'd say that's a personal problem. have you spoken with tech support? software is not going to ruin hardware, that's not really possible.
[06:54] <nDevastator> okay so after reboot my screen resolutions are back... before reboot it showed my ndivia drivers as active though
[06:54] <hashbrowns> LTL: how can I ensure that I am looking at the ubuntu partition on my hdd and not my CD? maybe im looking at my CD since im using the live cd, pwd returns /home/ubuntu if that helps at all.
[06:54] <KillerOrca> I cloned  my ubuntu install to a new hdd, took out the old one, rebooted, got an infinite loop, reinstalled grub, thought it worked, but now when I boot I am stuck on a blue colored screen
[06:54] <nDevastator> also should i install my driver if it didnt auto detect it ?
[06:54] <simon_b> hi all
[06:54] <cplab2-58> musikgoat|main; i have installed this on 1 other box and this box also.... now can you repeat the command again
[06:55] <simon_b> could someone comment: is this fstab OK: http://www.pastebin.ca/1291769 ??
[06:55] <LTL> hashbrowns: i've never used a livecd, but it sounds like you're in the right place. during install did it verify another OS existed?
[06:56] <cQ> open firefox for browsing on ubuntu is bad :(..slow to move arow down.even in xp is ok but ubuntu,just small flash,it becoming lag..
[06:56] <draven> if i'm doing an install on a system already raided do i need 8.10 server or alternate?
[06:56] <blah569> Whenever I download the Flash Player 10 .deb file, and I attempt to install it, I receive "Incorrect Architecture: i368"  I can not find any other file that does not give me this error message.
[06:56] <hashbrowns> LTL: yes, it allowed me to choose what I would like to import from my windows installation,  Things like desktop images, my documents folder, etc.
[06:57] <ushimitsudoki> blah569: you are on amd64?
[06:57] <draven> blah569, do you know what architecture you installed for your base os?
[06:57] <blah569> I am not completely sure.
[06:57] <blah569> draven:  I am not completely sure
[06:57] <ushimitsudoki> blah569: uname -a
[06:58] <LTL> hashbrowns: i think you need to run grub-install, but you better ask some more.
[06:58] <blah569> draven:  x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:59] <blah569> Thanks, ushimitsudoki.
[06:59] <cplab2-58> LTL; i have installed it on a system. can you tell me the command to connect
[06:59] <ushimitsudoki> blah569: get native alpha here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[06:59] <asanhunt> How do I enable wlan0?
[06:59] <hashbrowns> LTL: what harm can come from just going ahead and running grub-install?
[07:00] <KillerOrca> how do I find out what my hard drive is 'hda1, etc'?
[07:00] <cplab2-58> LTL; i have installed ssh...now i need the command to connect the systems
[07:00] <amuro> hi how to install skype in dell mini?
[07:00] <LTL> cplab2-58: ssh username@ip-address  [the username must exist on the target host + its password
[07:00] <amuro> the one in skype.com said invalid
[07:00] <nDevastator> whats the best way to install lamp on 8.04
[07:00] <cplab2-58> LTL; the target is this box from which i am talking to you
[07:01] <nDevastator> apt ?
[07:01] <LTL> cplab2-58: ssh localhost
[07:01] <nDevastator> and just install the seperate or is there still a lamp repo
[07:01] <cplab2-58> LTL; so i have to run this command from the other system which needs the update??
[07:01] <blah569> Gah, the links on that page as well do not work.
[07:01] <nDevastator> !LAMP
[07:01] <amuro> anyone can help my ubuntu problem?
[07:02] <woody86> Can anyone help me out? My 64bit machine keeps on dropping the network connection, and requires a reboot to be able to connect again. I only have a minute or two before it drops the connection, so I can't even run the updater.
[07:02] <LTL> cplab2-58: from another box you ssh yourname@your-ip
[07:02] <ushimitsudoki> blah569: yes they do. i have installed flash on amd64 there a dozen times. describe the problem.
[07:02] <n8tuser> woody86-> would you mind switching back to 32bit?
[07:02] <blah569> What would I launch the (*.so) file with?
[07:02] <ushimitsudoki> blah569: ah no no ... you don't launch it
[07:02] <cplab2-58> LTL; yes connected...now how do i make the update
[07:02] <ushimitsudoki> blah569: read here for how i did it: http://meandubuntu.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/real-64-bit-flash-on-amd64/
[07:02] <LTL> cplab2-58: use scp to copy file[s] uses the same ssh protocol
[07:02] <n8tuser> blah569-> some you can, but not all *.so
[07:03] <b3z3rk3r> ushimitsudoki, im back.. :(
[07:03] <ushimitsudoki> blah569: basically you just need to copy the .so to ~/.mozilla/plugins/ but there are some additional points
[07:03] <cplab2-58> LTL; copy file; i have to update the synaptic manager and install the packages which this box has installed
[07:04] <blah569> ushimitsudoki:  Ahhh, thanks.
[07:04] <KillerOrca> how do i find the label for my hard drive, hda1, hdb etc?
[07:04] <hashbrowns> I'm having problems dualbooting windows xp pro x64 and ubuntu 8.10 64-bit.  The ubuntu install went allright, no errors.  After the reboot though, my computer just automatically booted my windows installation without any prompt to choose which OS I would like to boot.  How do I fix this?
[07:04] <LTL> cplab2-58: you lost me
[07:04] <Slart> KillerOrca: gparted might be able to help you
[07:04] <ushimitsudoki> blah569: no problem. big point to keep in mind is that you are manually installing this shared library. so when the real native package (.deb) comes out, you might want to un-do everything you are doing now.
[07:04] <KillerOrca> Slart, there is some command, I just can't remember it
[07:05] <cplab2-58> LTL; ??
[07:05] <b3z3rk3r> hey ushimitsudoki i know you're busy here, was hoping u'd help me with the client side commands for synergy???
[07:05] <Slart> KillerOrca: there are many many commands.. sudo blkid is another
[07:05] <ushimitsudoki> b3z3rk3r: sure if i can
[07:05] <Slart> KillerOrca: or lshw, ls /dev/hd*, fdisk -l
[07:05] <n8tuser> woody86-> why are you not responding?
[07:05] <cplab2-58> LTL; i didnt get you..
[07:06] <LTL> cplab2-58: you have the openssh-server deb on your box? right
[07:06] <blah569> ushlimitsudoki:  Ah ok, thanks.
[07:06] <amuro> how to install skype?, sudo apt-get install skype gives me error
[07:06] <cplab2-58> LTL; ya
[07:06] <b3z3rk3r> ushimitsudoki, ok... im currently just putting "synergyc" into the terminal
[07:06] <cplab2-58> LTL; hey i just got a call...will be back
[07:06] <Slart> !skype
[07:06] <cplab2-58> LTL; can you wait
[07:06] <amuro> i have a dell mini 9
[07:06] <LTL> cplab2-58: and you ssh'd into your box from another box,,,right?
[07:06] <b3z3rk3r> ushimitsudoki, im getting a "server name required" back
[07:06] <amuro> maybe this is the problem?
[07:06] <cplab2-58> LTL; yah
[07:06] <ushimitsudoki> b3z3rk3r: no no ... you have to put "synergyc HOST" where HOST is like 192.168.1.100 or your computer name, or some other thing so the client knows where to look
[07:06] <hashbrowns> I'm having problems dualbooting windows xp pro x64 and ubuntu 8.10 64-bit.  The ubuntu install went allright, no errors.  After the reboot though, my computer just automatically booted my windows installation without any prompt to choose which OS I would like to boot.  How do I fix this?
[07:07] <b3z3rk3r> ushimitsudoki, .ah ha!!!
[07:07] <KillerOrca> Slart, thanks, trying to reinstall gru from inside ubuntu,
[07:07] <cplab2-58> LTL; can you  please wait...i have to attend a call..please dont mind
[07:07] <b3z3rk3r> ushimitsudoki, hehe thx.. :)
[07:07] <ushimitsudoki> b3z3rk3r: for example, my server name is "apollo" .. I can "ping apollo", so I use "synergyc apollo"
[07:07] <LTL> cplab2-58: is the package in /home/your-name-user/
[07:07] <KillerOrca> Slart, well that was it, but I cannot get the command ./grub to work
[07:08] <Slart> KillerOrca: are you following some kind of howto?
[07:08] <Slart> !grub | KillerOrca
[07:08] <hashbrowns> anyone here good at troubleshooting dualboot problems?
[07:08] <b3z3rk3r> ushimitsudoki, that seems to be accepted now. thankyou!
[07:09] <Slart> hashbrowns: you won't know until you actually describe your problem
[07:09] <KillerOrca> yeah, that is the one, the first link, that I am following, now I just get a blue screen that won't let me do anything
[07:09] <Slart> hashbrowns: questions like that rarely get any answers
[07:09] <ushimitsudoki> b3z3rk3r: Hooray! quite welcome
[07:09] <buttercups> hashbrowns, give this a try , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[07:09] <hashbrowns> I'm having problems dualbooting windows xp pro x64 and ubuntu 8.10 64-bit.  The ubuntu install went allright, no errors.  After the reboot though, my computer just automatically booted my windows installation without any prompt to choose which OS I would like to boot.  How do I fix this?
[07:09] <hashbrowns> slart: what more information can I add?
[07:10] <KillerOrca> Slart, I followed the guide but when I reboot I get a blue screen, nothing else happens, any ideas?
[07:10] <Slart> KillerOrca: you've done this, right? "then change directory to your installation sbin and run grub from there "
[07:10] <nDevastator> how do i create a new user since the option is greyed out in users
[07:11] <nDevastator> i assume i need to login as root to do that maybe
[07:11] <Slart> hashbrowns: that looks alright to me.. it's probably a grub problem
[07:11] <KillerOrca> Slart, I did the ./grub it said command not found
[07:11] <Slart> hashbrowns: it was the "Anyone here good at..."-question I commented on =)
[07:12] <EruditeHermit> hi, whenever I try to change the time in gnome by right clicking adjust date/time in the gnome panel, it reverts back to the old time after a restart. Can anyone help me to stop this from happening?
[07:12] <n8tuser> nDevastator -> man useradd
[07:12] <Aframester> are there any programs that are as strong as photoshop or illustrator
[07:12] <hashbrowns> Slart: sorry, its just i posted that a few times earlier to no avail at getting some response so i changed my post just a little.
[07:12] <Slart> KillerOrca: did you change directory to /usr/sbin/ before trying to run ./grub?
[07:12] <timecist> umm, set time with ntp
[07:12] <theatrus> Aframester, the closest matches are gimp and inkscape
[07:12] <nDevastator> n8tuser, tyvm
[07:12] <n8tuser> nDevastator -> and yes you have to have root priviledge
[07:12] <siimo> anyone got nvidia drivers + flash 10  and get a Firefox crash when going "full screen" on YouTube?  :-(
[07:12] <theatrus> Aframester, if you use all the features of both illustrator and photoshop, you'll find holes in both
[07:13] <Slart> hashbrowns: did you install ubuntu first, then windows? or the other way around?
[07:13] <KillerOrca> Slart, I did, at least I thought
[07:13] <Aframester> not entirely
[07:13] <EruditeHermit> timecist: but I want to change it manually when I change location
[07:13] <hashbrowns> Slart: windows then ubuntu
[07:13] <Aframester> theatrus: not entirely
[07:13] <Slart> hashbrowns: did you chose not to install grub during the installation?
[07:13] <theatrus> then they might be adequte enough for your purposes :)
[07:13] <kiyiko> wondering if dualboot with xp, how hard it would be to have both os's use the same music, pictures, documents, and maybe even the same dasktop folders?
[07:14] <ari_stress> !gpg
[07:14] <ushimitsudoki> siimo: looks like i can fullscreen with no problems
[07:14] <Slart> KillerOrca: because then you shouldn't have gotten that error, unless you've done something bad to your ubuntu install
[07:14] <woody86> Can anyone help me out? My 64bit machine keeps on dropping the network connection, and requires a reboot to be able to connect again. I only have a minute or two before it drops the connection, so I can't even run the updater.
[07:14] <timecist> ugh, i don't like people from different time periods or different time zones :(
[07:14] <Aframester> theatrus: are there any similar programs that can be used in ubuntu
[07:14] <n8tuser> kiyiko -> the problem is windows could not easily read ext3 file system, there are workaroudns
[07:14] <n8tuser> woody86-> why are you not responding?
[07:14] <n8tuser> woody86 -> would you mind switching back to 32bit?
[07:14] <hashbrowns> Slart: well the option never came up but I think I did install grub cause on the last page of the install process there was this "advanced" button I clicked on.  I didn't change anything but install grub was checked.
[07:14] <KillerOrca> Slart, I'm going to redo it, see if the same thing happens
[07:15] <Slart> !grub | hashbrowns: take a look at the first link here
[07:15] <Slart> KillerOrca: sure, let me know how it goes
[07:15] <kiyiko> am i able to install ubuntu on a ntfs filesystem, without wubi?
[07:16] <Slart> kiyiko: nope
[07:16] <woody86> n8tuser, I had been running 32 bit for a while and didn't have this problem, but I'd really like to get 64 bit working
[07:16] <nDevastator> n8tuser, im not really sure what groups i would put them in
[07:16] <gizmo> is it normal if d/l using bittorent with long time?
[07:16] <Slart> kiyiko: the system drive needs to be on something a bit linux friendlier
[07:16] <n8tuser> nDevastator -> you can create a new group
[07:16] <siimo> ushimitsudoki:  found something related https://blog.kevintowes.ca/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?forumid=72&catid=675&threadid=1399471&enterthread=y
[07:16] <woody86> n8tuser, is 8.04 64bit more "stable" than 8.10?
[07:16] <Slart> gizmo: it might be... depending on what you're downloading etc..
[07:16] <nDevastator> n8tuser, i just want an account for my family to use so they dont mess anything up.. so browse net and save / edit files in their directory
[07:17] <KillerOrca> Slart, still gives me the no such file or directory when I do ./grub, but it might be because I am in root mode maybe
[07:17] <Kartagis> i have a problem. i have a toshiba a200-1m4 laptop. sound comes from both speakers and headphones. any help?
[07:17] <gizmo> Slart,  im d/l movie..
[07:17] <gizmo> so its normal..:)
[07:17] <n8tuser> woody86 -> you would not gain much using 64bit from my understanding, most apps are still 32 bit
[07:18] <n8tuser> nDevastator -> so create a user1  in group user1,    create the group in   /etc/group  or  man groupadd
[07:18] <Slart> gizmo: it usually takes, almost exactly, as long to download a movie as it does to drive between the two cities
[07:18] <ushimitsudoki> siimo: hmm i have compiz/amd64/8800GTS512x2/180.16/flash alpha refresh seems to work OK. must be one or more items in the chain there
[07:18] <gizmo> ok..
[07:18] <siimo> well im on 32bit and running flash 10 final ushimitsudoki
[07:19] <woody86> true, but I'm going to have to upgrade to 64bit someday. Now I just have to figure out my screen resolution problem
[07:19] <terryx> i want to set 1024x768 resolution on my ubuntu desktop but its not showing in screen resolution options but showing in nvidia x server setting, is it safe to set from x server?
[07:19] <n8tuser> woody86 -> that someday can be 6 years from today
[07:20] <ushimitsudoki> siimo: hmm maybe try to update drivers? All i can say is that there are some combinations that work
[07:20] <nDevastator> n8tuser, im not really sure how making the new group helps ?  wouldnt i then have to apply all the necessary groups to that group somehow
[07:20] <woody86> n8tuser, true
[07:20] <KillerOrca> Slart, let me see if more info will help, I had my orginal install, working fine, wanted to move it onto larger HDD, so i used clonezilla, gparted didn't work, got some error on copying the swap partition, tried the new drive anyway, got an infinite grub loop, followed the instuctions at the link with a livecd, rebooted got a blue screen and the within ubuntu instructions don't work
[07:20] <blah569> How can I install Flash Player 10 on x64 Linux?
[07:20] <n8tuser> nDevastator -> have you done any tutorials in linux systems administrations yet? if you have not , please do one, now
[07:21] <nDevastator> n8tuser, no i have not
[07:21] <Slart> KillerOrca: blue screen? from grub? or from windows?
[07:21] <Kartagis> i have a problem. i have a toshiba a200-1m4 laptop. sound comes from both speakers and headphones. any help?
[07:21] <Prez00> hello
[07:21] <ushimitsudoki> blah569: That did not work for you?
[07:22] <Slart> Kartagis: it might not be the same on your laptop but on my laptop I have separate volume sliders for the speakers and the headphones
[07:22] <Prez00> what is easiest way to see my BIOS version?
[07:22] <n8tuser> nDevastator -> kindly do a linux system administration tutorial please
[07:22] <nDevastator> n8tuser, as we speak i am
[07:22] <Kartagis> Slart, where do i see that?
[07:22] <blah569> ushlimitsudoki:  Firefox still tells me to install Flash Player whenever I view a swf.
[07:23] <Slart> Kartagis: did it say anything? any kind of error message?
[07:23] <Slart> Kartagis: bah.. sorry
[07:23] <ushimitsudoki> blah: after moving that .so, did you check about:plugins in Firefox?
[07:23] <Slart> Kartagis: is there a small speaker icon somewhere on your panel?
[07:24] <hashbrowns> Slart: well I just did the first part of that link you gave me and no luck.  Should I try the rest of it or is that for something else?
[07:24] <blah569> ushlimitsudoki:  What exactly do you mean?
[07:24] <w3rd__> hey guys... downloaded ubuntu and was able to install in a vm via iso at another location... i try and install on a local workstation... i get an error reading boot cd... is there a chance the cd media is warped... i kno the iso was good?
[07:25] <timecist> hey, how do i make my terminal translucent?
[07:25] <woody86> Is there anyway to get 32 bit to recognize 4GB of ram? It's only showing 3.2GB in my System Monitor, but 4GB in my BIOS??
[07:25] <timecist> that would be sweet
[07:25] <Slart> hashbrowns: they are all good links.. but the first one ought to have fixed it... perhaps there's someting else wrong
[07:25] <ushimitsudoki> woody86: 32 bit can not address 4GB of RAM (without tricks like PAE). Read about PAE and consider using 64-bit
[07:26] <hashbrowns> Slart: have you any ideas as to what may be wrong?
[07:26] <n8tuser> nDevastator -> http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/linux_system_administrators_guide/index.html  <-- seems okay
[07:27] <woody86> ushimitsudoki, ok thanks :)
[07:27] <Slart> hashbrowns: my first guess was that grub either wasn't installed at all or that the windows mbr was still there.. the first link ought to have fixed those.. I'm not really sure what else could be wrong.. do you see any text mentioning GRUB when you boot up?
[07:27] <maldito> help with ccsm
[07:27] <blah569> ushlimitsudoki:  Nevermind, I got it.  Thanks for the previous assistance.
[07:27] <ushimitsudoki> blah569: Hooray!
[07:28] <maldito> any help wit ccsm
[07:28] <hashbrowns> Slart: none at all.  My computer just does its POST and then runs right to windows.
[07:28] <bazhang> #compiz-fusion maldito
[07:29] <Slart> !grub
[07:30] <Slart> hashbrowns: hmm.. did you try a full reinstall of grub?
[07:30] <terryx> can u guys help me?
[07:30] <LTL> cplab2-58: from the remote type: scp yourname@your-ip-address:openssh-server.deb . [hit enter]  don't forget the colon or the dot. the file will be in /home/username
[07:30] <rebel_kid> !ask | terryx
[07:30] <terryx> i want to set 1024x768 resolution on my ubuntu desktop but its not showing in screen resolution options but showing in nvidia x server setting, is it safe to set from x server?
[07:31] <maveric> Hi, i've got a bash script (Well.. just one line :P) that makes a driver via SSHFS of computer (using SSH)... I'm going to add it so it runs on login. Because it requires a password, will a password box (or terminal) pop up on login to enter my password, or would it just fail?
[07:31] <maveric> drive, not driver :p
[07:31] <Slart> terryx: give it a try.. see if it works.. I doubt it will explode on you
[07:31] <tobago> how to send message via terminal to a certain ip? doing wall 'my_message' sends the message only in a broadcast way.
[07:31] <Slart> maveric: you'll get a popup
[07:31] <terryx> explode me..???????what.............
[07:32] <maveric> Sweet, thanks Slart
[07:32] <hashbrowns> Slart well I did that first part of that link you gave me labeled quick start up until the first restart.  then it says to open /boot/grub/menu.list via live CD but my computer says it doesnt exist.
[07:32] <hashbrowns> Slart: but maybe i dont need to do that cause my windows install is working correctly, its just i cant boot my ubuntu install lol.
[07:32] <Rishab> hey all
[07:32] <Slart> hashbrowns: try doing the full reinstall.. it's chapter 7  in the second link
[07:33] <n8tuser> hashbrowns -> you have to mount the partition where /boot/grub/menu.lst  exist,  not the livecd's own /boot
[07:33] <rebel_kid> are the floodbots open source? what language are they written in? i would like to incorperate some of the code in my bot if it can be made compatible
[07:33] <Slart> hashbrowns: windows is a egocentric little whiny kid.. you won't be able to convince it to boot anything but itself..
[07:33] <Rishab> can any one tell me how to apply new downloaded theme for gnome environment
[07:33] <Rishab> ?
[07:33] <Rishab> ?
[07:33] <FloodBot3> Rishab: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:34] <Slart> hashbrowns: so you need to have grub installed.. it can boot both windows and linux
[07:34] <rebel_kid> slart, thats a good way of putting it :)
[07:34] <Rishab> FloodBot3: ok i wont do that
[07:34] <terryx> i want to set 1024x768 resolution on my ubuntu desktop but its not showing in screen resolution options but showing in nvidia x server setting, is it safe to set from x server?
[07:34] <Slart> rebel_kid: =)
[07:35] <terryx> ubottu, tell me man...?
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[07:35] <terryx> ubottu, u r what?
[07:35] <LTL> rebel_kid: you might try /ctcp FloodBot3 version nut you'll probably get booted
[07:35] <Slart> terryx: ubottu is a bot, not a human
[07:35] <terryx> ok
[07:36] <terryx> and u Start...
[07:36] <hashbrowns> Slart: When I installed ubuntu should I have mounted a partition to /boot?
[07:36] <Slart> terryx: mostly human, I think
[07:36] <rebel_kid> terryx, i doubt you will have a major problem. at worst you will get bad/no graphic output in which case just change it back to the original with a ubuntu live cd (keep one on hand when you experiment) :)
[07:36] <terryx> ha ha...so can u help me
[07:36] <terryx> ?
[07:36] <hashbrowns> Slart: cause i just made to partitions one swap and one ext3 with mountpoint /
[07:36] <rebel_kid> LTL, wow booted for versioning the bot? ouch
[07:36] <Slart> hashbrowns: nope.. on a  normal install it's located on the root
[07:36] <terryx> so lets forget it...
[07:37] <Slart> terryx: just try the nvidia settings thingy
[07:37] <terryx> and why most of my programs closes itself automatically..?
[07:37] <LTL> rebel_kid: cant hurt too bad, no bleeding
[07:37] <Cattle-Sex> hi kids
[07:37] <hashbrowns> Slart: Okay. Doing that chapter 7 thing now.
[07:37] <rebel_kid> LTL, negative ctcp version returns no reply :D
[07:37] <Rishab> i have downloaded several themes and they are in .gz files can any one tell me how to apply this theme ?
[07:37] <Slart> hashbrowns: ie you have /bin /home /var /boot etc on the same place
[07:37] <LTL> rebel_kid: i figured as much.
[07:38] <WebcamWonder> Rishab: System -> Preferences -> Appearence -> Install
[07:38] <rebel_kid> LTL, oh well whats a few more thousand lines lol
[07:38] <Guest63017> webserver not run
[07:38] <Slart> terryx: I have no idea about why your programs close themselves
[07:38] <Guest63017> why
[07:38] <w3rd__> damn, changed the drive.. and still get i/o error... guess i will have to reburn the damn thing...
[07:38] <kc8pxy> how do i tell my hardy install to NOT use the ahrdware video drivers?
[07:39] <Rishab> WebcamWonder: but it says you need to compile it
[07:39] <yaris123456789> hey guys when i run test.pl in command line it works, but whe i run it in browser, it throws 500 internal server error.......
[07:39] <WebcamWonder> Rishab: Where does it say that? Themes don't need to be compiled
[07:39] <LTL> rebel_kid: theres plenty of scripts out there, what kind of bot is the question. ubottu is an infobot i think/guess.
[07:40] <Slart> !bot
[07:40] <Rishab> while installing it gives this message
[07:40] <rebel_kid> LTL, yeah mbb already has those abilities, just wanted to see the constructs of how floodbot monitors users and creates exemptions
[07:40] <LTL> rebel_kid: thank Slart for that link.
[07:40] <rebel_kid> slart, ty
[07:41] <Slart> you're welcome rebel_kid
[07:41] <Rishab> WebcamWonder: what to do?
[07:42] <WebcamWonder> Rishab: Could you provide me with the link as to where you downloaded these themes from?
[07:42] <dirty-cow-lovin> hi all =)
[07:42] <zerodevice> hi everyone, i had installed blueman, but all i can do is send files from ubuntu to my phone but not recieve any files from my phone to ubuntu. anyone has any ideas or a better way?
[07:42] <dirty-cow-lovin> i use bitpim
[07:42] <dirty-cow-lovin> =)
[07:42] <Kartagis> Slart, but i used to be able to hear from only the headphones once i plugged them
[07:43] <LTL> Kartagis: try just muting the speakers, and hope the earphones still work.
[07:43] <Slart> Kartagis: in ubuntu? or some other os?
[07:44] <Kartagis> Slart, ubuntu
[07:44] <hashbrowns> Slart: Just finished that and still had no luck.  It seemed to be the same process as the thing I tried earlier.
[07:44] <cattle-rancher> zerodevice, i use bitpim
[07:45] <Kartagis> LTL, that doesn't work
[07:45] <LTL> Kartagis: normally... inserting the earphone jack opens the circuit mechanically to the speakers. thus disabling them, that must be old school.
[07:45] <Slart> hashbrowns: yes.. it is pretty much the same..
[07:45] <bazhang> !give bazhang a test
[07:45] <Slart> hashbrowns: ok.. let's go through this again.. start with the hard drives.. are you using windows now?
[07:45] <Rishab> WebcamWonder: ok my prob. solved thx
[07:46] <Kartagis> LTL, in my other laptop, it used to be like that
[07:46] <WebcamWonder> Rishab: No problems
[07:46] <kc8pxy> LTL: it's nto totally mechanical.   in linux on another distro IIRC< i can get it to ignore the fact that i plugged in headphones :) in the mixer :)
[07:46] <quinn> !pidgin
[07:46] <hashbrowns> Slart: Yeah. Ive got three hdds, all are sata, 2 250GB and 1 500GB. Windows and Ubuntu are both installed to the same 250GB drive.
[07:47] <trojatra> How do I add daemons to load on boot?
[07:47] <Slart> !boot | trojatra
[07:47] <cattle-rancher> trojatra look at /etc/init.d
[07:47] <cattle-rancher> might be /etc/rc.d
[07:47] <Slart> hashbrowns: ok.. and then you insert the linux live cd and reboot, right?
[07:48] <LTL> kc8pxy: Kartagis  thanks for the info kc8pxy that might work if all mixer controls are made visable
[07:48] <Slart> hashbrowns: and that's where you try reinstalling grub?
[07:48] <cattle-rancher> does ubuntu support lilo?
[07:48] <zerodevice> hi everyone, who do i knw if im on ubuntu hardy or gutsy
[07:48] <hashbrowns> Slart: yes.
[07:48] <ThinkTank> Can someone help me? It seems that the iwlagn driver don't work properly with my 4965 intel card. IT worked just fine in Hardy with the iwl4965 driver. (i'm now on Intrepid)
[07:48] <bullgard4> What directories and files are stored in /usr/share/mime, and what directories and files not?
[07:48] <Slart> hashbrowns: let me check that howto again....
[07:48] <trojatra> Thank you.
[07:49] <Slart> !grub > slart
[07:49] <hashbrowns> Slart: Okay.
[07:49] <bastid_raZor> zerodevice; in a terminal type lsb_release -a
[07:49] <terryx> segmentation fault in terminal...why?
[07:49] <kc8pxy> terryx:  doing?
[07:49] <Slart> hashbrowns: when you use the live cd, do you have an internet connection?
[07:50] <hashbrowns> Slart: Yeah.
[07:50] <Slart> hashbrowns: oh.. wait.. just thought of something.. you're not using some kind of BIOS antivirus setting?
[07:51] <hashbrowns> Slart: I dont believe I am.
[07:51] <Kartagis> so? what do I do?
[07:51] <Slart> hashbrowns: some BIOS's have an virus protection thingy that denies access to the mbr.. ie you can't change it
[07:51] <Slart> hashbrowns: ok.. could you boot the live cd and start xchat? I think it will join this channel by default
[07:52] <Slart> hashbrowns: if xchat isn't installed you can install it either using "Add/Remove programs" or in synaptic
[07:52] <didi> hi
[07:52] <hashbrowns> Slart: well I've had GRUB installed before, I had this problem a few days ago but Ubuntu would boot but windows said ntldr was corrupt or something, rendering my windows install unusable.
[07:52] <r2r>  hi using ubuntu 8.04 both lan cards ditechted but mii-tool gives nothing (error)
[07:53] <hashbrowns> Slart: one sec, gotta reboot and stuff to get the live CD going
[07:53] <r2r> also, anyone here know about lan bonding
[07:53] <Slart> hashbrowns: sure
[07:53] <Slart> !anyone | r2r
[07:54] <quinn> hashbrowns: if xchat isn't installed you can use pidgin instead
[07:55] <hashbrowns> Slart: how do i start xchat?
[07:55] <r2r> ok how to do lan bonding in ubuntu (i hope this is fine slart)
[07:55] <The_Joe_> Is there a default number of half open connections in Ubuntu? If so whar is it?
[07:55] <Slart> hashbrowns: take a look in the Applications, Internet menu
[07:55] <Igramul> hashbrowns, it should be in the applications menue (internet)
[07:55] <U-b-u-n-t-u> hashbrowns,? it should be in the applications/internet area
[07:56] <Slart> hashbrowns: or just open a terminal and run "xchat"
[07:56] <tobago> how to send message via terminal to a certain ip? doing wall 'my_message' sends the message only in a broadcast way.
[07:57] <LTL> Kartagis: right click on the volume icon, choose open volume controls, in that window choose 'preferences' enable everything then start hacking around with the mixer controls/switches.
[07:57] <r2r> tobago, on x or on cli?
[07:57] <Bunson> any one know of a way to reload the sound system from terminal?
[07:57] <r2r> !anyone | bunson
[07:57] <Bunson> ubuntu 8.10
[07:57] <jim_p> Bunson, sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[07:58] <Slart> r2r: I have no idea, sorry
[07:58] <Bunson> how about for pulse?
[07:58] <LTL> tobago: install 'talk' or ytalk' on both systems
[07:58] <r2r> bunson: smae just change alsa to pulse
[07:58] <jim_p> Bunson, pulseaudio is a needless extra layer for sound management. remove it
[07:58] <Slart> r2r: you've tried to google for it, right?
[07:58] <amuro> what are the different between dell version ubuntu or the netbook remix version?
[07:58] <Bunson> k ty r2r n jim
[07:58] <amuro> or the normal version?
[07:59] <Slart> amuro: the normal version is supported here.. the others not? ;)
[07:59] <R0b0t1> For some reason compiz causes my movies to flicker, but if I "metacity --replace" inside a terminal, watch the movie, and then C-c out of metacity, I am unable to type in the terminals to restart compiz.
[07:59] <Bunson> yes its been an on going thing that i figured was worth throwing out to the room ..
[07:59] <R0b0t1> Which I used to be able to do...
[07:59] <hashbrowns> Slart: which one do i want to install from synaptic? xchat-gnome or xchat-gnome-common
[07:59] <jim_p> amuro, since i exclude the possibility of being custom compiled, i think the versions for these pcs/laptops also give you the system preconfigures in terms of drivers and modules
[08:00] <Slart> hashbrowns: you'll need both.. xchat-gnome will install xchat-gnome-common for you
[08:00] <hashbrowns> Slart: Okay one sec
[08:00] <jim_p> R0b0t1, let me guess.. are you on ati?
[08:00] <cplab2-56> can i have any material of open source security tools
[08:00] <amuro> should i get rid of the dell version and install the normal ubuntu??
[08:00] <LTL> hashbrowns: get xchat
[08:00] <jim_p> cplab2-56, like a tutorial?
[08:01] <amuro> because i can not install skype
[08:01] <R0b0t1> jim_p: Oh, lets check... How do I check? ;)
[08:01] <maco> jim_p: why is it a needless extra layer? it makes a lot of things that are very difficult to do with just plain alsa much easier
[08:01] <amuro> but i seen someone installed skype on thie netbook
[08:01] <jim_p> amuro, why cant you install skype?
[08:01] <R0b0t1> jim_p: Odds are that I am.
[08:01] <Slart> amuro: I have no idea what Dell did to their version so I can't really say
[08:01] <jim_p> R0b0t1, lspci | grep VGA
[08:01] <Slart> !skype | amuro
[08:01] <amuro> it said invalid architecture 'i386'
[08:01] <amuro> i already see that page
[08:02] <amuro> i follow their step still get error
[08:02] <jim_p> amuro, what is your "uname -r" ?
[08:02] <R0b0t1> jim_p: Check, it is infact an ATI.
[08:02] <maco> Bunson: you can do pkill pulseaudio && esd&
[08:02] <amuro> what uname -r ?
[08:02] <maco> Bunson: that'll restart pulse on 8.04 and 8.10
[08:02] <w3rd__> blast!! guess its something with my system..
[08:02] <maco> amuro: a command to put in the terminal
[08:02] <Igramul> amuro, type "uname -r" and tell us the result
[08:02] <maco> amuro: it tells information about what kernel you're running.
[08:02] <Bunson> .. ya cause the rest didnt do anythign .. ty maco i will try that next
[08:03] <amuro> 2.6.24-19-lpia
[08:03] <hashbrowns2> Slart: Okay I think I have xchat working.
[08:03] <R0b0t1> jim_p: I'd heard about the ATI thingy, but is there a quick-fix? "ignore fullscreen windows" or similar doesn't work.
[08:03] <n2diy> w3rd__, qsl?
[08:03] <node357> hi all. Ubuntu 8.10 can't get WINE to run any app, it just hangs with no error messages
[08:03] <jim_p> R0b0t1, then what you face with compiz is a common ati problem. either stop compiz when watching a video, or use the opensource radeon driver and have much less 3d acceleration than fglrx
[08:03] <R0b0t1> D;
[08:03] <jim_p> amuro, that seems like an altered kernel version of hardys kernel
[08:03] <Slart> hashbrowns: great
[08:04] <Slart> hashbrowns: try opening this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[08:04] <amuro> jim_p: so what do i do?
[08:04] <jim_p> R0b0t1, sorry i cant suggest anything else that combines video and compiz
[08:04] <NEWK> Hey, I just installed kubuntu-desktop. why don't my Compiz effect work anymore?
[08:04] <w3rd__> dern install of ubuntu... cant get it to go, no matter the utility to burn with, the drive... have all pci removed just plain mobo and a cd drive.. and keep getting disk i/o errors... even burnt a new disc on a different media... still same error...
[08:04] <NEWK> *effects
[08:04] <jim_p> amuro, do you use the hardy repos?
[08:04] <amuro> no idea
[08:04] <y0315219> what should i do if i want to change the icon of aMSN in AWN
[08:04] <n2diy> w3rd__, qsl?
[08:04] <R0b0t1> jim_p: Meh, it's OK. Thanks for the help :)
[08:04] <maco> R0b0t1: if you install the fusion-icon,  it might make switching between compiz and metacity easier
[08:05] <amuro> jim_p: no ideas
[08:05] <w3rd__> wtf is qsl?
[08:05] <jim_p> NEWK, blame kde for that and ask in #kubuntu for the solution
[08:05] <NEWK> oh, ok
[08:05] <jim_p> w3rd__, is it sql maybe?
[08:05] <maco> NEWK: maybe ask in #kubuntu?
[08:05] <NEWK> I guess i should since my ubuntu is kubntu now. :D
[08:05] <hashbrowns2> w3rd_ did compare the md5 hash of the file you downloaded with the one on the ubuntu site?
[08:05] <jim_p> amuro, please highlight me next time
[08:05] <w3rd__> yah, and i was able to install via iso on a vm earlier today
[08:06] <w3rd__> sql? what sql? the db on the disc?
[08:06] <n2diy> w3rd__, doesn't matter.
[08:06] <rohan> on (k)ubuntu 8.04 firefox 3.0.5 i am having a strange bug in wikipedia pages - the right border doesn't appear. can someone please reproduce the bug? http://bayimg.com/IaMKBAABJ here is a screenshot, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_scotia a sample page (see the Language table)
[08:06] <jim_p> amuro, cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep universe
[08:06] <w3rd__> so if i check md5 and im able to install on another system and now i burn the media to a disc and cant install it doesnt matter?
[08:06] <jim_p> w3rd__, no, ignore what i said
[08:06] <DanaG> Anyone else having issues with fglrx 8.561 giving kernel panics so bad it can't even blink caps-lock?
[08:06] <w3rd__> k
[08:06] <TyGRuS> hey guys I am trying to get ruby and rails etc. going on ubuntu
[08:07] <maco> w3rd__: do you have a broken cd drive by any chance?
[08:07] <TyGRuS> but it keeps looking at /usr/local/bin/ruby instead of /usr/bin/ruby
[08:07] <TyGRuS> there is no /usr/local/bin/gem sorry [not ruby]
[08:07] <node357> hi all. Ubuntu 8.10 can't get WINE to run any app, it just hangs with no error messages
[08:07] <y0315219> what should i do if i want to change the icon of aMSN in AWN???
[08:07] <w3rd__> maco: i changed the drive i have 2 dvd burners
[08:07] <DanaG> I've had to go back to 8.542 to get a working fglrx... but then compiz makes it hang.
[08:07] <NEWK> hey, I have a problem and I ned to speak with an op
[08:07] <jim_p> y0315219, right click it and change from properties??
[08:07] <NEWK> *need
[08:07] <Slart> y0315219: check the documentation for AWN, see where they fetch the icons from..
[08:08] <Slart> y0315219: it sounds like it might be a often asked question..
[08:08] <maco> w3rd__: are you getting squashfs errors or disk i/o?
[08:08] <hashbrowns2> Slart: okay so what do I do from here?
[08:08] <maco> NEWK: #ubuntu-ops
[08:08] <w3rd__> disk i/o
[08:08] <maco> w3rd__: how's your hard drive?
[08:08] <Slart> hashbrowns2: open a terminal and run "sudo grub"
[08:08] <w3rd__> brand new
[08:08] <amuro> jim_p: wait
[08:08] <hashbrowns2> slart: whoops, over looked your link there sorry
[08:08] <w3rd__> and i have windows server running on it
[08:08] <Slart> hashbrowns2: no worries =)
[08:08] <y0315219> yea, i changed the icon from its panel, but it didn't work
[08:09] <maco> w3rd__: have you done a SMART check on it? maybe there are bad sectors on the partition you're trying to use?
[08:09] <n2diy> maco, try !ops
[08:09] <w3rd__> dude how would i be able to run an os on it
[08:09] <jim_p> i will go shave myself, brb
[08:09] <w3rd__> if you want i will switch the freaking drive
[08:09] <w3rd__> see if it helps
[08:10] <Bunson> any advice on unclean shut downs and how to fix that so the silly scan disk thing doesnt have to run every time the comp starts up ubuntu 8.10
[08:10] <amuro> jim_p-shaving: http://pastebin.ca/1292129
[08:10] <amuro> jim_p-shaving: did u change name?
[08:10] <Slart> jim_p-shaving: shesh.. sitting here on irc, all unshaved and nasty... shame on you.. disgrace to the channel.. oops.. perhaps I should put some pants on.. ;)
[08:10] <jim_p-shaving> amuro, yea. i will go shave myself
[08:11] <jim_p-shaving> hahaahhaahhaahhahahahahhahahhahhhahha
[08:11] <y0315219> yea
[08:11] <amuro> jim_p-shaving: did u figure out my problem?
[08:11] <jim_p-shaving> amuro, do you install skype by some repo?
[08:12] <jim_p-shaving> oh let me shave
[08:12] <amuro> jim_p-shaving: i cant install skype
[08:12] <jim_p-shaving> i have to leave in 15 minutes
[08:12] <amuro> i cant find skype in synaptic
[08:12] <jim_p-shaving> amuro, HOW did you try to install it?
[08:12] <DanaG> I wonder if the 64-bit drivers are just what's broken.
[08:13] <amuro> i try to goto skype.com and download the linux version .deb still cant run
[08:13] <DanaG> I mean, I don't expect the best performance... but giving a kernel panic immediately upon trying to start Xorg?  Lovely.
[08:13] <amuro> it said invalid archtecture
[08:13] <hashbrowns2> slart: brb restarting
[08:13] <DanaG> http://pastebin.com/fc88f05f
[08:14] <jim_p-shaving> amuro, try this skype repo              deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[08:14] <heatxsink> how do I use instruments with xcode and my iphone teathered?
[08:14] <amuro> page is off limits
[08:15] <ponykip> does anyone know offhand if the minimal cd comes with wireless_tools?
[08:15] <DanaG> At least I have a stack trace for my panic.
[08:15] <mk123> how do i change the firefox menu fonts?
[08:15] <Photoguy> How do I open .rar archives, is there a extrctor for Ubuntu?
[08:15] <ziroday> !rar | Photoguy
[08:16] <mk123> how can i redistribute free space from the CLI ?
[08:17] <Appiah> mk123: huh?
[08:17] <w3rd__> changed the disc and i still get i/o error... i think im going to change the computer now and see if i get the same error... if that is the case... i think i need diff cd media...
[08:17] <Appiah> redistribute free space from the cli?
[08:17] <mk123> Appiah: i just deleted sda1 and i want to redistribute all the free space to sda3 - in addition is it possible to make sda3 the new sda1 ?
[08:18] <Appiah> are you running som LVM ?
[08:18] <ikonia> mk123: if you have deleted /dev/sda1 your in trouble
[08:18] <yaris123456789> how do i give other users on my server permission to change folder file permissions ?
[08:18] <Appiah> some*
[08:18] <mk123> ikonia: i had another partition set up there, ubuntu is on sda3
[08:18] <ikonia> yaris123456789: they need to be the owner or the group owner with full permissions
[08:18] <node357> hi all. Ubuntu 8.10 can't get WINE to run any app, it just hangs with no error messages
[08:18] <yaris123456789> ikonia: how can i set that ?
[08:18] <mk123> Appiah: what an LVM
[08:18] <Appiah> unless you got a raid or LVM I dont see how , you could always partition it and mount it smoewhere
[08:18] <Appiah> somewhere*
[08:19] <CaneToad> something in the recent updates seems to have broken my Intel ICH5/ALC650F audio...any ideas how I can diagnose?
[08:19] <mk123> Appiah: why not?
[08:19] <Appiah> why not what mk123 ?
[08:20] <Appiah> oh wait
[08:20] <mk123> Appiah: why can't it be done
[08:20] <jim_p> done :P
[08:20] <Appiah> you can use gparted
[08:20] <mk123> Appiah: :S
[08:20] <krishnan> i have to setup a forum & discussion board for my company. Should i use PunBB or phpBB2. Which one is better?
[08:20] <mk123> Appiah: will it make sda3 into sda1?
[08:20] <Appiah> you can resize your partitions
[08:20] <mk123> Appiah: can i resize partitions from CLI?
[08:21] <Appiah> dunno if gparted got that
[08:21] <Appiah> or you can always use the gparted livecd...
[08:21] <mk123> Appiah: i'm trying to expand my knowledge of CLI tools
[08:22] <krishnan>  i have to setup a forum & discussion board for my company. Should i use PunBB or phpBB2. Which one is better?
[08:22] <Appiah> then use parted mk123
[08:22] <Appiah> gparted is the parted GUI
[08:23] <mk123> Appiah: thanks
[08:23] <jim_p> mk123, cfdisk can also do partitions
[08:23] <Appiah> jim_p: but can it resize?
[08:23] <Appiah> ;)
[08:23] <jim_p> Appiah, dunno that
[08:23] <ikonia> mk123: use a tool like "parted" to resize but don't delete files in /dev - let udev manage that
[08:23] <Appiah> It does not
[08:23] <mk123> jim_p: it cant redistribute free space though
[08:23] <ikonia> mk123: sorry that wasn't for you, that was just terrible lag
[08:24] <mk123> ikonia: how can i use udev to make sda3 the new sda1
[08:24] <hashbrowns2> Slart:  Can you post that link again. one of the steps was to restart and well I lost it lol.
[08:24] <jim_p> mk123, Appiah, sorry i did not catch up from the beginning
[08:24] <ikonia> mk123: it will do it it's self on reboot after you have used parted to resize the disk
[08:24] <mk123> how do i use parted to redistribute free space?
[08:24] <ikonia> mk123: use the application
[08:24] <krishnan> ikonia:  i have to setup a forum & discussion board for my company. Should i use PunBB or phpBB2. Which one is better?
[08:25] <ikonia> well thats nothing to do with ubuntu so not a good idea to ask here, I think both are poor, it's up to you what you use though and why you use it
[08:25] <tarelerulz> I have been trying to rip my own movie.  The hardest part has been the subtitles . Is there any program that is made for ripping subtitles off the dvd and not trying them into some text form ,but just pictures based subtitles
[08:25] <Slart> hashbrowns2: hehe.. no problem, one sec
[08:25] <Slart> hashbrowns2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[08:25] <MaximB> hi
[08:25] <ikonia> tarelerulz: acidrip and dvd::rip will do it all for you
[08:26] <Slart> hashbrowns2: did it boot alright now?
[08:26] <MaximB> why is the ubuntuforums website isn't online for the past few days ?
[08:26] <justizin> i'm installing linux-image-server into a Xen DomU which is using Dom0's kernel, and I note that lilo is a requirement.  of course, it tells me that it won't be used if it isn't installed manually, but i wonder if there is any way to keep it off.
[08:26] <ikonia> MaximB: ask in #ubuntuforums
[08:26] <Slart> MaximB: seems to work for me
[08:26] <ikonia> justizin: not if it's a requirent
[08:26] <Starnestommy> MaximB: works for mee too
[08:26] <Starnestommy> *me
[08:26] <ikonia> justizin: although to be honest I don't see why it is a requirment
[08:26] <MaximB> o shit, you right ... I did .com instead of .org
[08:26] <justizin> ikonia: eh i guess no big, and yah, i agree, quite odd..
[08:27] <hashbrowns2> Slart: No it didnt :(
[08:27] <MaximB> sorry
[08:27] <ikonia> MaximB: mind your language please
[08:27] <hashbrowns2> Slart: Same situation.
[08:27] <MaximB> k sorry
[08:27] <ikonia> justizin: I may do a little digging on that, thanks for highlighting that
[08:27] <justizin> i somehow ended up with only the option to install lilo, and not grub, in a particular run of the expert text installer from the server iso usb-ized
[08:27] <Slart> hashbrowns2: no error messages when you did the grub commands?
[08:27] <node357> come on, I need to get away from Windows :(
[08:27] <justizin> ikonia: i'd be glad to be cc-ed on a bug and help chase it down, i've always wanted to contribute.
[08:27] <hashbrowns2> Slart: nope
[08:27] <kc8pxy> how do i tell my hardy install to NOT use the ahrdware video drivers?
[08:27] <w3rd__> different computer with different hd dvd burner and all diff components.. fail.. it has to be the media...
[08:27] <ikonia> justizin: lilo is normally "forced" if your using specific raid technologies at install tinme
[08:27] <justizin> i only used LVM
[08:28] <ikonia> krishnan: for what card
[08:28] <ikonia> j	ahhh is /boot on lvm ?
[08:28] <ikonia> justizin: is /boot on lvm ?
[08:28] <Slart> hashbrowns2: very odd..
[08:28] <justizin> there are clearly some foibles in text / expert installer on latest server iso, at least when running from usb.. i had to do expert to avoid requirement of cd-rom.
[08:28] <justizin> ikonia: no way!
[08:28] <skringla> kc8pxy:  is it a nonfree driver
[08:28] <ikonia> justizin: just checking thats one situation when lilo is forced
[08:29] <justizin> yah i can hear that, i get the idea that something was triggered which shouldn't have been.
[08:29] <ikonia> justizin: that seems plausable
[08:29] <justizin> i'd be more than happy to try and repro, though i'd have to nuke my testing Dom0
[08:29] <Appiah> mk123: for all cli tools , use man to learn them
[08:29] <justizin> ikonia: it wasn't end of world, but i had a bit of pain installing grub by hand.  it would certainly be a learning or, as in my case, relearning experience, for anyone finding themselves that deep in expert installer.
[08:29] <hashbrowns2> Slart: should i try the section labeled: "Overwriting the Windows bootloader"?
[08:30] <The_Joe_> What's the package name for Transmission?
[08:30] <kc8pxy> skringla: yeah..  i tried using the non-fre driver, hoping ubuntu had found a way for it to NOT have the issues the non-free had issues in another distro.  now i need it removed.
[08:30] <ikonia> justizin: I suspect it depends on $BOOT_LOADER and it thinks you need lilo for some reason instead of grub, if your base system is installed with grub I wonder if it would think $BOOT_LLOADER is grub
[08:30] <ikonia> justizin: rather than a hard coded dependency on lilo
[08:31] <Slart> hashbrowns2: why not
[08:31] <ikonia> kc8pxy: open hardware drivers from system->administration menu and disable it
[08:31] <mk123> Appiah: thanks
[08:31] <DanaG> Argh!  Damned ASIC hang.
[08:31] <kc8pxy> ikonia:  i can't get to the gui with the driver active.
[08:31] <DanaG> ... and it only happened AFTER I manually loaded snd-hda-intel, oddly enough.
[08:31] <kc8pxy> ikonia:  it's that severe of a problem
[08:31] <tarelerulz> ﻿ikonia , I made subtitles with dvd::rip and nothing seem to read them and play with the video . The only thing I have seen that rip subtitles is something in transcoder ,but it all the tutorals turn them into picture and then orc them
[08:31] <ikonia> kc8pxy: put the line Driver "Vesa" in the /etx/X11/xorg.conf under the configured video card device
[08:32] <justizin> ikonia: in most cases of expert installer, i have lilo and grub options.  on one of 5+ runs, i only had lilo.
[08:32] <skringla> kc8pxy:  if you know the name of the driver you can use apt-get to remove it, or you can look for it in synaptic.  I would just try the hardware option unser admin
[08:32] <juro> hi, what is the best way to upgrade from 8.04 to the current Ubuntu? fresh install?
[08:32] <skringla> juro: no
[08:32] <justizin> the next install i chose afaik relatively same options, including using the same LVM VG, but i had grub option
[08:32] <ikonia> justizin: seomthing appears to have been falsely triggered as you suggest
[08:32] <justizin> for all i know it's my flaky usb key ;d
[08:32] <justizin> but yah, i'm happy to help test
[08:32] <kc8pxy> ikonia:  vesa play ugly with this card too :-( my first fix also.
[08:32] <juro> skringla, ?
[08:33] <justizin> maybe i can try installing from one usb key to another, to avoid fscking my 150GB Xen / LVM setup which is currently humming. :)
[08:33] <skringla> juro:  if you go into sftwar souces you can change an option to let the updater do it
[08:33] <kc8pxy> skringla: it's the fglrx driver,,  what's the package name?
[08:33] <skringla> ?
[08:33] <ikonia> kc8pxy: yes but you use that driver to get the menyu back to disable the drivers you don't want
[08:33] <cplab2-58> hiiii how to check graphic in bult support for mother bord
[08:33] <ikonia> kc8pxy: I'm not telling you to use vesa as a solution, just to get the desktop back so you can access the drivers manager
[08:34] <ikonia> cplab2-58: read the manual of the board you bought
[08:34] <ikonia> cplab2-58: search the web
[08:34] <cubexde> hey if someone can help me with a new 8.10 installation issue PM me
[08:34] <LTL> cplab2-58: your back
[08:34] <juro> skringla, in your experience, does it work? (seeing that I could also update Windows Millenium to XP .....)
[08:34] <ikonia> cubexde: just ask the question
[08:34] <kc8pxy> ikonia: fglrx gives me a screen that looks blank(washed in white), and vesa gives me a screen that looks like scrambled eggs.
[08:34] <cyber1> wsup yall
[08:34] <ikonia> kc8pxy: ahhh it's an ati card
[08:34] <skringla> yes, but I ended up going back to 8.04 and the only way to do that is a fresh install
[08:35] <cplab2-58> hey i dont have the manual...moreover we are in lab...so just wanted to check for the sake of gaming compatibility
[08:35] <node357> what is the package for X11 development files?
[08:35] <ikonia> kc8pxy: this may sound harsh but ati cards a rea problem
[08:35] <skringla> juro:  blur tooth in 8.10 is alot difrent and didn't work
[08:35] <cubexde> I have only booted up successfully once. 203 updates were available so I downloaded them all. The problem is, now it just shows a command line prompt whenever I boot up.
[08:35] <cubexde> It will not show the graphical login window.
[08:35] <cplab2-58> ikonia; LTL, hey i dont have the manual...moreover we are in lab...so just wanted to check my motherboard for the sake of gaming compatibility
[08:35] <ikonia> cplab2-58: the manuals are normall on the web
[08:35] <ikonia> cplab2-58: gaming compatability is not relevant in ubuntu
[08:35] <skringla> kc8pxy: i agree with ikonia, i had to reinstall the driver a couple of times before it worked right
[08:36] <kc8pxy> ikonia: I'm a 10-year linux veteran.  i may like ati sometimes because they are now a part of my favorite cpu manuf., but i agree,   their closed-source drivers suck.
[08:36] <DanaG> Hmm, I'm getting more and more hints that perhaps my audio chip is what's causing my GPU to hang, oddly enough.
[08:36] <ikonia> cplab2-58: if ubuntu can use your card, ubuntu can use your card for games
[08:36] <node357> come on somebody help please
[08:36] <cplab2-58> ikonia; we have no idea about the motherboard....just assume that we are trying to hack the systems
[08:36] <ikonia> cplab2-58: no, I won't assume that
[08:36] <ikonia> cplab2-58: talk to your teachers/lab owners
[08:36] <ikonia> node357: if you ask a question
[08:36] <VieQ> Hi all, my question would some how seem irrelevant but since I am using UbuntU I will need some help
[08:36] <cplab2-58> ikonia; hey i just want to remind you that i am the old DarkKnight
[08:36] <node357> what is the package for X11 development files?
[08:37] <rofl> x11-dev?
[08:37] <ikonia> node357: which development files ?
[08:37] <VieQ> I am looking for an ap. to watch free Internet broadcasting
[08:37] <VieQ> like sat. channels and etc
[08:37] <ikonia> cplab2-58: a 19 year old linux vetran would know how to check a video card
[08:37] <DanaG> er... maybe not.
[08:37] <skringla> Vieq: vlc
[08:37] <VieQ> any ideas?
[08:37] <cubexde> VieQ: try joost.com or hulu.com
[08:37] <node357> ikonia, I have to build wine 1.1.11 and I get: configure: error: X development files not found. Wine will be built
[08:37] <node357> without X support, which probably isn't what you want. You will need to install
[08:37] <node357> development packages of Xlib/Xfree86 at the very least.
[08:37] <node357> Use the --without-x option if you really want this.
[08:37] <hashbrowns2> Slart: does grub make any distinction between sata drives and IDE drives? cause these examples have hdbZ whereas my fdisk -l is spitting out sdbZ
[08:37] <FloodBot3> node357: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:37] <ikonia> kc8pxy: sorry, that wasn't for you
[08:37] <ikonia> cplab2-58: sorry, that wasn't fo ryou
[08:38] <ikonia> node357: why do you need to build wine, it's in the repos
[08:38] <VieQ> thx cubexde, skringla
[08:38] <Slart> hashbrowns2: all drives are called hdX in grub.. it doesn't matter if they are sata or ide
[08:38] <ikonia> node357: use the version that is packaged for you in the repo's unless you knw what you are doing
[08:38] <node357> ikonia, the people in w#winehq said I need to because 1.0.1 isn't working
[08:38] <ikonia> cplab2-58: talk to the lab owners about your hardware
[08:38]  * cubexde is still waiting to be helped
[08:38] <hashbrowns2> Slart: okay, continuing this guide.
[08:38] <Slart> hashbrowns2: you didn't use the sdX notation in the grub setup, right?
[08:38] <ikonia> cubexde: /me commands don''t help you get hlpe, they just annoy people so you normally get ignored
[08:38] <hashbrowns2> Slart: no, I used the hdX notation
[08:38] <Slart> hashbrowns2: ok, good
[08:39] <LTL> cubexde: try startx
[08:39] <node357> !x11
[08:39] <cubexde> LTL: Thanks, I will try that. BRB
[08:39] <kc8pxy> Slart: with  new enough grub, IIRC<  it even sees usb's :)
[08:39] <node357> I installed build-essential but i need X11 devel files and I can't find them
[08:39] <Slart> kc8pxy: ahh.. sweet.. didn't know that =)
[08:40] <austrolopitecus> ciao
[08:40] <austrolopitecus> !list
[08:40] <kc8pxy> Slart:  had it skew the drive identifications before, booting grub with my thumb-drive in :)
[08:40] <hashbrowns2> Slart: should i use the sdbX notation when doing the mount -t ext3 .... command?
[08:40] <node357> so basically i'm screwed and should give up or what
[08:41] <ikonia> node357: what are you trying to do ?
[08:41] <node357> ikonia, trying to run a Windows game that used to work with WINE on a fresh install of Ubuntu 8.10
[08:41] <Slart> hashbrowns2: yes
[08:41] <node357> ikonia, it worked fine last time, same installer too
[08:41] <ikonia> node357: as in what is causing you the problem that makes you think you need to rebuild wine
[08:41] <infinity_> i'm looking for a program other than picasa to mange photos in linux. suggestions?
[08:41] <node357> ikonia, I already told you... people in #winehq said I needed to install the latest version
[08:41] <node357> ikonia, and I need X11 devel files to do it but I can't find them
[08:42] <ziroday> infinity_: digikam or f-spot
[08:42] <ikonia> node357: I'm asking you what the problem is with using the current version
[08:42] <skringla> infinity_:fstop
[08:42] <node357> ikonia, the Steam.exe will not start, itjust hangs in terminal with no messages
[08:42] <cubexde> Alright, I tried LTL's suggestion, with the following result: Fatal server error: no screens found. I also know for a fact that one of the updates was an nVidia driver.
[08:42] <juro> skringla, ok, thanx. I don't use bluetooth anyway ;)
[08:43] <infinity_> thanks. i mount my data share from a windows computer, and for some reason picasa gets confused
[08:43] <ikonia> node357: just reading some bug reports
[08:43] <skringla> juro: that might not be the only bug, just remimber that
[08:43] <node357> okay ikonia thank you
[08:44] <juro> skringla, of course - not that 8.04 is totally void of bugs :)
[08:44] <skringla> infinity_:  I tried picasa and wasn't very impressed, fstop works much better in my opinion
[08:44] <infinity_> oh crap digikam is for kde
[08:45] <skringla> juro:  you are right, and I might have been able to fix 8.10 if I wasn't so lazy but I like the beast I know
[08:45] <infinity_> thats 100mb of stuff to install. lol
[08:45] <juro> skringla, :) thanx for the info
[08:45] <skringla> juro: np
[08:45] <cubexde> So I think I need to remove the new nVidia driver and revert to the default one. How do I do that?
[08:46] <histo> cubexde, which one did you install and how?
[08:46] <histo> cubexde, did you just enable the restricted driver?
[08:46] <cubexde> histo: Whatever was the automatic update that was served to me.
[08:46] <histo> cubexde, How did you install your nvidia drivers?
[08:47] <cubexde> histo: I got 8.10 to start just fine at first, but after installing updates (including the nVidia driver) through the auto update program, it is telling me there are no screens found and refusing to execute "startx".
[08:48] <histo> cubexde, did you enable the restricted driver ex: click the little checkbox to enable restricted hardware?
[08:48] <ikonia> node357: so it appears there are a few bugs logged against wine 1.01 and steam, what I'd suggest you do is log this bug on launchpad.net (ubuntu bug system) and quote this page http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO Steam as an extenral source for the bug
[08:48] <cubexde> histo: No...
[08:48] <histo> cubexde, you can check in System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[08:48] <cubexde> histo: No, I can't. I can't boot.
[08:48] <node357> ikonia, "This page doesn't exist yet."
[08:48] <kelvin911> hi
[08:48] <histo> cubexde, well there was no update to the nvidia driver in tehpackages you downloaded. so something else is a matter.
[08:48] <cubexde> histo: I just get a command line prompt.
[08:49] <histo> cubexde, ahh hold up once sec
[08:49] <node357> ah ikonia I have it now, thanks
[08:49] <cubexde> histo: OK, now how do I revert back to whatever I had before?
[08:49] <cubexde> histo: Or better, how do I boot without doing that?
[08:50] <node357> geez this is getting more complicated by the minute
[08:50] <histo> cubexde, trying to find the comand for you hold up.
[08:50] <node357> I need development files for like 20 things
[08:50] <histo> cubexde, did you use the gui to change your resolution maybe?
[08:50] <cubexde> histo: I appreciate it.
[08:50] <cubexde> histo: No, it auto-detected my 1280x1024.
[08:51] <magellanic> can anyone recommend a good deb building tutorial please? ones I've found don't explain the process in good detail. thanks
[08:51] <kelvin911> is jim_p still here?
[08:51] <histo> cubexde, try this sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:51] <cubexde> K brb
[08:51] <node357> seems like the only way to compile WINE is with Slackware or Gentoo
[08:51] <hashbrowns2> Slart:  I didnt create an independent /boot partition so can I just skip the mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/root/boot step?
[08:51] <histo> cubexde, ahh your not on the machine?
[08:52] <Slart> hashbrowns2: I believe so, yes
[08:52] <hischild> node357, why would you want to build wine yourself?
[08:52] <Guest25533> i really need some help please ...... i am running 8.04 LTS HArdy I am Having Problems getting my Ati Radeon 7000 Rv100 card too work not too mention 3d excelleration. i have read all the help pages and tried everything but cannot get it too work can someone please take the time too help me please thanks
[08:52] <cubexde> histo: No, I am on my PC right now.
[08:52] <histo> node357, not true
[08:53] <node357> histo, it says I have to install dozens of packages to compile WINE
[08:53] <tobago> is it impossible to send a message by terminal to another ip adress?
[08:53] <Guest25533> 00:03.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
[08:53] <node357> and I have to guess the name of each package
[08:53] <histo> cubexde, ahh. Kind of makes it hard there are other things to try. You must have installed something though with video like drivers etc... where you trying to install nvidia drivers or what is the history here?
[08:53] <hischild> node357, because you have to. sudo apt-get build-dep wine ought to install those for you.
[08:53] <histo> node357, sudo aptitude build-dep wine
[08:53] <hashbrowns2> Slart: On the sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/root /dev/hda step, what do I need to replace /dev/hda with or do I not need to replace it?
[08:54] <histo> node357, but why you want to compile it is beyond me you can just sudo aptitude install wine
[08:54] <histo> node357, or you can add their repo to your sources.list to get a up to date version.
[08:54] <node357> histo, my app is not working in 1.01. and #winehq said install latest development version
[08:54] <cubexde> histo: I just installed all available updates without looking at them.
[08:54] <cubexde> histo: Anyway, standby for the output I got from that command:
[08:54] <node357> great, now apt won't connect to the server !!
[08:54] <stareux> ;(
[08:55] <histo> cubexde, is this a freshly installed system? or something that has been running for a while.
[08:55] <stareux> :'(
[08:55] <histo> node357, sudo aptitude update
[08:55] <node357> thanks, hischild
[08:55] <node357> histo I mean
[08:55] <Slart> hashbrowns2: /dev uses the sdX notation
[08:55] <node357> well both of you lol
[08:55] <cubexde> histo: xserver-xorg postint warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration file; backup in etc/X11/xorg.inf.20081223005355
[08:55] <Slart> hashbrowns2: so /dev/sda
[08:55] <Gambit-> anyone know off hand how to tell what the dispaly bpp depth is?
[08:55] <bennysimone> ciao
[08:55] <cubexde> histo: Yes, a fresh install. First time using 8.10
[08:56] <node357> Gambit-, probably 24 bit
[08:56] <bennysimone> are you italian?
[08:56] <Guest25533>  i really need some help please ...... i am running 8.04 LTS HArdy I am Having Problems getting my Ati Radeon 7000 Rv100 card too work not too mention 3d excelleration. i have read all the help pages and tried everything but cannot get it too work can someone please take the time too help me please thanks
[08:56] <histo> cubexde, okay now try to restart X. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:56] <bennysimone> vaffanculo
[08:56] <exmachina> Machina
[08:56] <bennysimone> fak
[08:56] <cubexde> histo: Should I reset the machine first?
[08:56] <bennysimone> fac
[08:56] <skringla> guest25533:  have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling?
[08:56] <histo> cubexde, or do that it doesn't matter.
[08:57] <Slart> !lanugage | bennysimone:
[08:57] <cubexde> histo: Alright hang on...
[08:57] <Slart> !language | bennysimone:
[08:57] <histo> cubexde, just reboot is fine.
[08:57] <Gambit-> node357, that's not really what I was looking for; I need to figure it out concretely.
[08:57] <cubexde> histo: Looks like it is working so far :)
[08:57] <U-b-u-n-t-u> is there a way to get ubuntu to only show whats on the 1st work space only on the 1st work space without having it on the list content on every work space?
[08:57] <histo> cubexde, well the ubuntu loading screen is not X
[08:58] <histo> cubexde, did you get all the way in to where you can log in?
[08:58] <cubexde> histo: Hmm... still broken.
[08:58] <Guest25533> :skringla reinstalling the os?
[08:58] <histo> cubexde, okay didyou get an error or anything?
[08:58] <shirish> hi all, I think I am running compiz and want to disable it, I am not able to disable the same from System > Preferences
[08:58] <shirish> any other way to do the same?
[08:58] <Guest25533> yes i tried several times reinstalling 8.04
[08:58] <histo> shirish, alt+ F2 and type in metacity --replace
[08:58] <cubexde> histo: Just the same "no screens found" when I enter startx
[08:59] <histo> cubexde, why are you entering startx? is this a console based system that you installed X on yoruself?
[08:59] <hashbrowns2> Slart: rebooting, hopefully it will work this time.
[08:59] <skringla> no just the driver, go to system>administration>hardware drivers i think, then just uncheck the video driver and it will do it
[08:59] <Slart> hashbrowns: good luck
[08:59] <house> how do i get my system specs
[08:59] <cubexde> histo: No, someone else told me to type that...
[08:59] <Gambit-> Anyone else know how to determine what the current running screen bpp depth is?
[08:59] <Slart> house: lshw
[08:59] <histo> cubexde, so the system boots and goes to a terminal?
[09:00] <cubexde> histo: Yes. I just get no GUI
[09:00] <shirish> histo: tried that, no difference, still have issues
[09:00] <skringla> guest25533:  then when it is done, check the box again and it will reinstall
[09:00] <histo> cubexde, okay how did you install ubuntu?
[09:00] <cubexde> histo: From the 8.10 ISO
[09:00] <marek_> hi anybody tried to use aoe?
[09:00] <histo> cubexde, what type of nvidia card do you have?
[09:01] <Guest25533> its says no propietary drivers are in use on the system
[09:01] <Guest25533> dosent have anything in there at all
[09:01] <hashbrowns> Slart: Thanks man! It worked!  Now should I boot to ubuntu first or to my windows install?  Last time I was at this stage my windows install wouldnt boot saying ntldr is corrupt or something.
[09:01] <cubexde> histo: Not completely sure, just got this computer 2nd-hand, but I think a 6000-series GeForce. Dual-SLI in Windows but I don't know how Ubuntu will handle that aspect
[09:01] <histo> cubexde, is X maybe already running try hitting ctrl+alt+F7
[09:01] <shirish> ok anybody know how to get rid of error E: Read error - read (5 Input/output error)
[09:01] <Slart> hashbrowns: we can fix the windows boot from ubuntu
[09:01] <Slart> hashbrowns: so boot to ubuntu, from the hard drive
[09:01] <Guest25533> shirish nothing is in there at all in hardware drivers
[09:02] <skringla> guest2553: then you need to check the box for the nonfree driver
[09:02] <cubexde> histo: I just get a blinking cursor in the corner.
[09:02] <Guest25533> there isnt a box 2 check?
[09:02] <hashbrowns> Slart: so which should I start first?  The windows problem may not be present now.
[09:02] <hischild> How to reset my keyring password?
[09:02] <skringla> guest25533:, i am not sure then, did you check ubuntu forums?
[09:02] <hashbrowns> Slart: sorry didnt see the post
[09:02] <histo> cubexde, when it boots?
[09:02] <Guest25533> yes i did
[09:02] <shirish> Guest25533: ?
[09:02] <Slart> hashbrowns: how do you choose which one to boot? do you see the grub menu?
[09:03] <histo> cubexde, try sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[09:03] <shirish> Guest25533: not able to see any box.
[09:03] <Guest25533> 00:03.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
[09:03] <cubexde> histo: It takes me to a login prompt (non-graphical) and then when I press Ctrl-Alt-F7 it clears the screen and shows a blinking cursor in the corner. Just the little _ symbol you know.
[09:03] <Guest25533> thats my video card if it helps you any
[09:03] <hashbrowns> Slart: yes. The grub menu
[09:03] <histo> cubexde, ahh hit ctrl+alt+F1 to get back
[09:03] <Slart> hashbrowns: you have a windows option there?
[09:03] <shirish> histo: know anyway what this error is about
[09:03] <histo> cubexde, then try sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade  It sounds like there are bigger problems here.
[09:04] <hashbrowns> Slart: Yes
[09:04] <shirish> E: Read error - read (5 Input/output error)
[09:04] <Slart> hashbrowns: well... try both ubuntu and windows.. hopefully they will both work
[09:04] <cubexde> histo: Alright 1 sec...
[09:04] <freeRag> I cant find my root account !
[09:04] <histo> cubexde, you can try adding the nvidia drivers manually by sudo aptitude insall nvidia-glx-177
[09:04] <freeRag> virus ?
[09:04] <hashbrowns> Slart: okay well im in ubuntu atm, should i do anything before i restart and try the windows option?
[09:05] <Slart> hashbrowns: nope.. just try them both first
[09:05] <cubexde> histo: Alright I finished all but the nvidia command. Should I do that now too?
[09:05] <histo> cubexde, then reboot and see if that helps. If not since this is a fresh install I would just reinstall it. Install the updates (which don't touch the video card btw) and then reboot. Then enable the restrcited drivers.
[09:05] <Guest25533> when you edit xorg.confg is there anything u have to do to save the new settings in there before closing terminal?
[09:05] <histo> cubexde, yeah run the nvidia command
[09:05] <histo> cubexde, assuming you have an internet connection on this machine.
[09:06] <histo> Guest1689, what are you editing it with?
[09:06] <kop> histo huh ??
[09:06] <Guest25533> terminal NANO
[09:06] <histo> Kolie, ?
[09:06] <histo> kop, ?
[09:06] <tdn> How do I get my HP LaserJet P1005 to work in Ubuntu?
[09:06] <hashbrowns> Slart:  Okay windows says " Starting up ...       NTLDR is missing   press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart
[09:06] <Guest25533> i found something on it edited it and then rebooted and everything i edited was erased??
[09:06] <cubexde> histo: Yes, I have a net connection. It is doing it right now.
[09:07] <histo> cubexde, k after it installs the nvidia driver you can sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart to restart X or you can reboot and see if that works.
[09:07] <cubexde> histo: Will do.
[09:07] <Slart> hashbrowns: hmm.. ok.. go back to ubuntu
[09:07] <histo> Guest1689, well yes you have to save the file first ofcourse. What are you using to edit it?
[09:07] <Guest25533> am i doing it right?
[09:07] <cubexde> histo: Command not found?
[09:08] <Hangwire> Hey people, i have a problem. Everytime I log in my account using XFCE, XFCE does not manage my desktop - I have to go to Settings - Desktop Preferences to tick the "Allow XFCE to manage the desktop" or else my Icons and Wallpaper don't show up. Is there anyway to make it Autostart on bootup or something? Its really bothering me.
[09:08] <histo> Guest1689, HOW are you editing the file?
[09:08] <histo> cubexde, which command?
[09:08] <hashbrowns> slart: okay I'm back in ubuntu
[09:08] <Guest25533> Section "Device"
[09:08] <Guest25533>         Identifier      "Configured Video Device"
[09:08] <Guest25533>         Driver          "vesa"
[09:08] <Guest25533>         Option          "UseFBDev"              "true"
[09:08] <FloodBot3> Guest25533: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
 please for your own edification learn "vi"
[09:08] <Guest25533> thats what im getting in Xorg file
[09:08] <histo> Hangwire, try in #xubuntu
[09:08] <Hangwire> histo, thanks.
[09:08] <cubexde> histo: Not sudo, the other one
[09:08] <histo> !paste > Guest25533
[09:08] <shirish> histo: all my window decorations are gone, still no go with metacity --replace
[09:09] <Slart> hashbrowns: ok.. try this.. "sudo apt-get install pastebinit; cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | pastebinit"
[09:09] <histo> cubexde, sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-177   ?
[09:09] <histo> cubexde, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:09] <cubexde> No, /etc/ini.d/gdm
[09:09] <hischild> How to reset my keyring password?
[09:09] <histo> Slart, thats a nifty app
[09:09] <Guest25533> hello
[09:09] <cubexde> histo: That wasn't recognized. The restart command string.
[09:09] <shirish> histo: ?
[09:10] <histo> Slart, That should be installed by default. Someone should put a request in.
[09:10] <Slart> hashbrowns: it installs pastebinit.. a program that lets you paste stuff on pastebin, !paste for more info, and then sends the contents of your grub config file to that program.. you'll get an url back from that command.. give us the url so we can check why windows isn't booting properly
[09:10] <cubexde> histo: When I type "sudo /etc/ini.d/gdm restart" it responds with "sudo: /etc/ini.d/gdm: command not found"
[09:10] <hashbrowns> slart: okay i did that now what
[09:10] <histo> cubexde, wth is this a Ubuntu desktop Cd you used?  try dpkg -l | grep gdm
[09:10] <Slart> histo: agreed
[09:10] <Slart> hashbrowns: you got an url?
[09:10] <histo> cubexde, its init.d  not ini.d
[09:11] <cubexde> histo: Ah then you typo-d ;)
[09:11] <five> i cant get sound working for windows xp in virtualbox
[09:11] <cubexde> histo: Working now...
[09:11] <hashbrowns> slart: http://pastebin.com/f2035b497
[09:11] <histo> cubexde, and ?
[09:11] <tdn> I have just bought an HP LaserJet P1005. When I connect it and power it on, Ubuntu recognizes the printer and says it is ready to print. But when I print a test page, nothing happens on the printer. I use "HP LaserJet P1005 Foomatic/foo2xqx". I hope you can help me get this printer working.
[09:11] <quatar-it> hi all. is there anyone of you or an exclusive channel which can help me with my webcam setup? I'll explain: it's a philips one, and it should use pwc drivers, or so I understood googling. Yesterday I tried to install modules, but i had problems doin "make" (i have no more the logs). I did not know what i was doing, i only did copy-and-paste from a forum page. But I think i have removed the only pwc*.ko file i had in /
[09:12] <cubexde> histo: Still dumping me at the same command line.
[09:12] <histo> cubexde, sudo aptitude install pastebinit && cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[09:12] <shirish> guys is there way to do a clean slate of metacity, no compiz or anything?
[09:13] <histo> cubexde, and give me the url that it outputs
[09:13] <cubexde> histo: Alright standby
[09:13] <histo> shirish, I told you hit alt+f2 and tyep in metacity --replace   that will run metacity
[09:13] <Slart> hashbrowns: ok.. can you confirm that the windows system is on /dev/sda1 ?
[09:13] <histo> shirish, you can also use System > Preferences > Appeareance
[09:13] <five> is there anyone here that can unban me from offtopic?
[09:13] <Slart> hashbrowns: you can check in gparted for example
[09:14] <Slart> five: I think there's a channel called #ubuntu-ops
[09:14] <shirish> histo: did that, metacity --replace, still no window decorations
[09:14] <five> slart yeah i forgot joining thnx
[09:14] <histo> shirish, did you have window decorations before?
[09:14] <histo> shirish, and why can't you use preferences?
[09:14] <hashbrowns> Slart: how do I check that?
[09:15] <hashbrowns> Slart: Sorry I know so little about this stuff.
[09:15] <Slart> hashbrowns: start gparted (system, administration, partition editor or run gparted from a terminal) then look through your hard drives for the ntfs-partition with windows on it
[09:15] <Slart> hashbrowns: no worries.. we've all been there
[09:16] <cubexde> histo: Still working...
[09:16] <histo> cubexde, whats it doing installing pastebinit still?
[09:17] <quatar-it> won't get an answer, uh? ... thaks anyway, i'll ask again in a few hours
[09:17] <hashbrowns> Slart: well no partition editor under administration, in terminal do i just type "gparted"?
[09:17] <quatar-it> sigh!
[09:17] <Slart> hashbrowns: yes.. perhaps it's not installed by default.. can't really remember
[09:17] <cubexde> histo: No I rebooted. http://pastebin.com/f174af9ee
[09:17] <hashbrowns> Slart: yeah its not, should i just go ahead and install it?
[09:18] <mk123> can someone tell me how to turn sda3 into sda1 ? I no longer have sda1 and re-allocated its space to sda3
[09:18] <Slart> hashbrowns: yes
[09:18] <Slart> hashbrowns: it shouldn't take long to install and it's a good tool to have
[09:18] <histo> cubexde, okay its trying to use the default driver and its not finding a video card in this machine.
[09:18] <histo> cubexde, did you install the nvidia driver?
[09:19] <cattle-rancher> mk
[09:19] <tdn> I have just bought an HP LaserJet P1005. When I connect it and power it on, Ubuntu recognizes the printer and says it is ready to print. But when I print a test page, nothing happens on the printer. I use "HP LaserJet P1005 Foomatic/foo2xqx". I hope you can help me get this printer working.
[09:19] <cattle-rancher> cfdisk
[09:19] <cattle-rancher> delete sda3
[09:19] <cubexde> histo: I did when you told me to.
[09:19] <cattle-rancher> and then create sda1
[09:19] <histo> cubexde, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[09:19] <hashbrowns> Slart:  I believe my windows install is on /dev/sdb1
[09:20] <cubexde> histo: I would just reinstall, but I'm afraid it will do the same thing again.
[09:20] <cubexde> histo: Alright standby
[09:20] <n2diy> toh, can you print a test pge with out your computer?
[09:20] <histo> cubexde, also can you see what the output of lsmod | grep nvidia is
[09:20] <ikonia> !give ikonia a test
[09:20] <cubexde> histo: http://pastebin.com/f630f9968
[09:21] <Slart> hashbrowns: hmm.. then grub is right.. I wonder if it's some kind of 64-bit windows quirk
[09:21] <Andreatop> ciao
[09:21] <Andreatop> c'è nessuno?
[09:21] <histo> cubexde, whats the output of "lsmod | grep nvidia"   no qoutes ofcourse.
[09:21] <cubexde> histo: What output do you want? It dropped a bunch of info.
[09:21] <n2diy> ! it
[09:22] <cubexde> histo: 1 sec I will type it all in:
[09:22] <Andreatop> thx for italian information
[09:22] <histo> cubexde, did it list an entry with nvidia on the left?
[09:22] <n2diy> Anderst, nada
[09:23] <alfatau> hello, is there a scriptable way to test if a device is connected and working on ttyS1? i've a serial 56k modem and i should detect if it's turned on or off. thank you
[09:24] <cubexde> nvidia     6900560 0
[09:24] <cubexde> agpgart      42184 1 nvidia
[09:24] <histo> cubexde, alright now we just need to get X to see it.
[09:24] <cubexde> i2c_core     31892 3 nvidia,i2c_nforce2
[09:24] <cubexde> histo: k...
[09:24] <n2diy> alfatau, setserial would be your friend for that
[09:24] <histo> cubexde, lspci | grep VGA
[09:24] <hashbrowns> Slart: so what now?
[09:24] <histo> cubexde, that will show what type of card you have what is it saying for that?
[09:25] <cubexde> histo: No output.
[09:25] <cubexde> histo: Wait...
[09:25] <cubexde> histo: Ok 1 sec it's a lot
[09:25] <tarelerulz>  What is program for ripping subtitles off the dvd ?  Not vob ripped onto you hard or not some format like srt .
[09:25] <histo> cubexde, not just look for the model of nvidia card like nvidia Geforce blah.....
[09:25] <Slart> hashbrowns: I'm googling.. there seems to be other that are having the same problem with 64bit windows and dualbooting
[09:26] <alfatau> n2diy: ok, i'm taking a look to that
[09:26] <hashbrowns> Slart: K. I hope there is a solution :S  BRB one sec.
[09:26] <cubexde> histo: GeForce 6600 LE (two of them)
[09:26] <tarelerulz> //   /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:27] <histo> cubexde, before when you ran "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" did it ask you some questions?
[09:28] <cubexde> histo: No... it just made me log in.
[09:28] <histo> cubexde, also what is the result of "glxinfo | grep rendering"   Should be Yes
[09:28] <quatar-it> someone who have fun talking about modules for webcams, please ping me when confortably sitted!
[09:28] <cubexde> histo: Error: unable to open display
[09:29] <histo> cubexde, hrm... let me check something hold up.
[09:30] <c0nfl|ct>  bom dia
[09:30] <histo> cubexde, something is weird here that card is supported by the drivers we installed which are loaded. But X doesn't see them or the card.
[09:31] <cubexde> histo: I have two cards, could it be that it wants me to plug into the other one?
[09:31] <histo> cubexde, you could try and reboto but X isn't seeing either of them.
[09:32] <histo> cubexde, i'm reading some stuff now. THis maybe a known problem.
[09:34] <gmathews> Good day all
[09:34] <gmathews> How can i check how much data I have sent/received on my wired connection?
[09:34] <cubexde> histo: So how come it worked right after install?
[09:34] <hashbrowns> Slart: back
[09:34] <mrbig4545> ive just upgraded to intrepid, and virtualbox is acting up. Im using host interface networking with a bridge, and i cant ping the virtual machine! however the vm can ping google and that
[09:34] <gmathews> because the screenlets thing does not indicate true values
[09:34] <mrbig4545> just not the real comp, any ideas?
[09:35] <histo> cubexde, no idea. Thats why i'm saying swithcing the card you are using shouldn't fix it.
[09:35] <histo> cubexde, unless there is aproblem with the new kernel. Try rebooting and when you see the grub screen hit esc to get a menu.  Select the older kernel and try booting that.
[09:36] <Guest25533> Ati Radeon 7000/VE help anyone
[09:36] <mrbig4545> infact its just the local machine i cant ping, either ping from host to vm, or from vm to host
[09:36] <mrbig4545> im guesssing something has changed...
[09:36] <cubexde> histo: Already tried that./
[09:36] <mrbig4545> brb
[09:37] <histo> cubexde, and that didn't work?
[09:37] <cubexde> histo: If it worked, I wouldn't be bugging you ;)
[09:37] <histo> cubexde, did you install or do anything else other than update?
[09:37] <cubexde> histo: Nope, nothing whatsoever.
[09:38] <phnom> gmathews, You can check it with top in terminal
[09:38] <suji> HAI SARANYA
[09:38] <phnom> gmathews, or you can install htop to get it in a fancier format
[09:38] <gmathews> top only shows memory though right?
[09:38] <gmathews> i mean RAM usage/Processor usage
[09:38] <saranya> hai, are u got how to creat the font LEGATURE
[09:38] <phnom> gmathews, oh, lol... early morning here sorry >_>
[09:39] <hashbrowns> Slart: any luck?
[09:39] <bullgard4> Wikipedia characterizes the directory /usr/local as a "Tertiary hierarchy for local data, specific to this host." What is meant here by 'tertiary hierarchy'?
[09:39] <suji> no da
[09:39] <gmathews> hahha no sorries phnom :)
[09:39] <histo> cubexde, hrm.. lets try specifying the card to X.  Try dmesg | grep nvidia
[09:39] <cubexde> histo: When I installed, I was using DaemonTOOLS to mount the ISO and did the "Install inside Windows" option. I don't have a CD burner and my discs I ordered won't show up for a few weeks.
[09:39] <saranya> u please open already font created like hiran
[09:39] <gmathews> i mean worries lol phnom
[09:39] <suji> i don't knw how to create ligature in fontforge any one know
[09:40] <histo> cubexde, we needthe bus id for your card the ##:#:#
[09:40] <cubexde> histo: Give me a second
[09:41] <Slart> hashbrowns: nope.. nothing good so far
[09:42] <wet>  are their anybody who tried running PvPGN server on ubuntu hardy?
[09:42] <hashbrowns> Slart: k. do you think we will be able to resolve this issue?
[09:44] <phnom> gmathews, you could try install ntop
[09:44] <gmathews> Ubuntu 9.04 = Jaunty Jackalope
[09:44] <Slart> hashbrowns: I don't know of any easy fixes at this point..
[09:44] <gmathews> phnom: going to try it
[09:44] <Slart> hashbrowns: according to all I know it should work now..
[09:45] <hashbrowns> slart: hmm...
[09:45] <cubexde> histo: OK, what do we need?
[09:46] <histo> cubexde, the numbers in dmesg | grep nvidia   should be like ##:##:## for each card
[09:46] <cubexde> histo: There are two cards: 0000:01:00.0 and 0000:02:00.0
[09:46] <marek_> hi how can i change permissions, to allow normal user, not superuser to mount the devices?
[09:46] <marek_> like mount /media/domowy ?
[09:47] <histo> cubexde, okay now we need to edit the xorg.conf to look like this http://pastebin.com/m2ae1290e I just changed the device section
[09:48] <gmathews> phnom: How do u use ntop - i see u can use your web browser - but how exactly?
[09:48] <cubexde> histo: And I do that how?
[09:48] <ushimitsudoki> bullgard4: The primary is /. The secondary hierarchy is /usr. The tertiary is /usr/local. Tertiary is just a fancy way of saying "3rd". The "hierarchy" part just indicates there are sub-branches below that directory.
[09:48] <histo> cubexde, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf   make the necessary changes to the device section and ctrl+w to save and ctrl+x to exit
[09:49] <phnom> gmathews, found this tutorialthing: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-ubuntu-install-ntop-network-traffic-monitoring-software/
[09:49] <gmathews> Going there now phnom :)
[09:49] <jose> alguien abla español ?
[09:50] <histo> cubexde, I also changed line 35 there too.
[09:50] <hosstell> has anyone ever booted from an ISO in Grub, or know if it is possible?
[09:50] <phnom> gmathews, :)
[09:50] <bullgard4> ushimitsudoki: Thank you for explaining.
[09:51] <ushimitsudoki> bullgard4: quite welcome. http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html is the "real" reference if you want to read it (I think it is easier to read than the wikipedia article actually)
[09:51] <cubexde> histo: How do I save? Ctrl-W is find
[09:52] <Flannel> cubexde: ctrl-o
[09:52] <histo> cubexde, sry ctrl+o its down at the bottom of the screen
[09:52] <histo> cubexde, all the shortcuts that is.
[09:52] <alfatau> n2diy: about setserial, i tried -a option, but the output is the same both with modem off/on and for a ttySX with nothing connected... is there a way to get some better info with setserial?
[09:52] <cubexde> histo: OK, now what?
[09:52] <histo> cubexde, restart X
[09:52] <histo> cubexde, or reboot
[09:53] <cubexde> histo: Rebooting...
[09:53] <SpinachHead> something strange, if I remove emacs with apt and synaptic -- emacs still can be invoked.  I tried to remove and reinstall to reset the keybindings but emacs never removes..... any ideas?
[09:53] <Slart> hashbrowns: nope.. can't really find anything useful about this.. sorry
[09:53] <histo> cubexde, if your scren goes blank you may need to plug in to the other card which is bus id 2:0:0.  or you could chang ehte value in xorg.conf and restart I guess.
[09:54] <hashbrowns> slart: do you know anyone that has better expertise than you in this area that may be able to help?
[09:54] <bullgard4> ushimitsudoki: Excellent! (I am always interested in primary source material.)  --  Thank you again.
[09:54] <Flannel> SpinachHead: "emacs" is a metapackage.  You'd have to remove emacs22 (or a similar package).  However, your personal keybindings are stored in your home folder.  So just remove those, you don't need to reinstall (nor will it help)
[09:54] <cubexde> histo: Alright
[09:54] <cubexde> histo: It worked!
[09:55] <cubexde> histo: I have a login screen at last :D
[09:55] <histo> cubexde, okay X is getting confused about he SLI then
[09:55] <cubexde> histo: Does this mean I shouldn't install any nVidia stuff or updates or anything now?
[09:55] <Slart> hashbrowns: ask the channel.. there are plenty of wise people out there
[09:55] <histo> cubexde, you can install all the updates you want but you have current nvidia drivers now. The only thing left to make sure is that SLI is working.
[09:55] <SpinachHead> in the .emacs file?
[09:56] <histo> cubexde, I would sudo aptitude install nvidia-settings    So that you can see and configure your cards
[09:56] <Flannel> SpinachHead: Probably an ~/.emacs folder, but yeah, something like that (I don't know where emacs keeps its stuff)
[09:56] <gmathews> phnom: thanks man - it seems a bit tedious to see speeds but the ntop is pretty cool for running a server :)
[09:56] <SpinachHead> okay, thanks I forgot
[09:56] <joejc> is there a program that lets me use the itunes store without wine?
[09:56] <histo> cubexde, it will then be under System > Administration > Nvidia Settings
[09:56] <dr_willis> !itunes
[09:56] <Enselic> Hi, my computer A has a wireless connection. I have a laptop B by my side without a working wireless card so I would like to act as a router and let laptop B connect to the internet through me. Any pointers/keywords?
[09:57] <joejc> i hate itunes i just want the store
[09:57] <hashbrowns> Slart: Okay.  Thanks for all the help man. I appreciate you sticking around for a few hours.
[09:57] <dr_willis> !ics | Enselic
[09:58] <cubexde> histo: Alright thanks so much for your help :)
[09:58] <hashbrowns> I can't boot to windows xp pro x64 after installing ubuntu 8.10 64-bit version.  After grub starts to load my windows installation, my windows installation says "NTLDR is missing" and I have not choice to but to restart my computer.
[09:58] <saranya> i need some basic shortcut using terminals
[09:58] <Enselic> dr_willis: thanks
[09:59] <histo> cubexde, no problem.  That was a weird one sry it took me so long to figure out. Hard when you aren't sitting in front of the box.
[09:59] <gmathews> I want to make my ubuntu look wicked - been to gnome-look.org but Im looking for more - any pointers?
[10:00] <dr_willis> gmathews,  be more specific? :)
[10:00] <mrbig4545> gmathews: kde
[10:00] <saranya> வணக்கம்
[10:00] <histo> gmathews, are you running 3d effects and stuff?
[10:00] <joejc> does sharpmusique still exist?
[10:00] <dr_willis> one mans wicked - is another mans eyesore
[10:00] <slacker_nl> hello
[10:00] <histo> gmathews, also check out the forums there is an entire section dedicated to eye candy
[10:00] <gmathews> yea guess so - i cant seem to get this animations add-on to work...I got compiz working with the cylinder deformation - someone told me that planes fly across your screen but I dont know how to do that lol.
[10:01] <slacker_nl> how can i find out which packages are dependend on a particular package?
[10:01] <histo> gmathews,  http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=330
[10:01] <hashbrowns> I can't boot to windows xp pro x64 after installing ubuntu 8.10 64-bit version.  After grub starts to load my windows installation, my windows installation says "NTLDR is missing" and I have not choice to but to restart my computer.
[10:02] <dr_willis> hashbrowns,  ntldr is a windows boot file.  You sure you dident accidently format your windows installs?  You coudl try booting a windows rescue/boot/install cd and use the fixboot command.
[10:02] <gmathews> I have the animated add-on enabled in compiz settings manager but why doesnt anything happen :(
[10:02] <lw0x15> yo whats the command to find out mount points
[10:02] <dr_willis> lw0x15,  'mount' :)
[10:03] <lw0x15> dr_willis: what about which hdd's are where cause i got scsi and sata
[10:03] <dr_willis> lw0x15,  'sudo fdisk -l'
[10:03] <histo> gmathews, you need to check out the link i posted
[10:03] <hashbrowns> dr_willis: will that touch my data on my windows partition?  I'm pretty sure I didn't format my windows partition, just resized it.
[10:04] <dr_willis> hashbrowns,  booting windows install cd. and running its rescue/fixmbr or fixboot commands will  copy/write the proper files to the windows partition.
[10:04] <lw0x15> dr_willis: ah alrite thanks i used fdisk -l without sudo ;|
[10:04] <dr_willis> hashbrowns,  fixboot / fixmbr may or  may not make linux unbootabe then - due to grub being removed
[10:04] <lw0x15> thats why it didnt work
[10:05] <gmathews> histo: that page answers the themes question I had but not the animated plane effects one :( Thanks though.
[10:06] <histo> gmathews, i've never seen animated planes but maybe you need to check out the compiz page to see if their are any new plugins they are working on.
[10:06] <dr_willis> Theres that FOlding airplane effect - In compiz
[10:06] <gmathews> yes dr_willis thats the one!
[10:06] <dr_willis> gmathews,  so what about it?
[10:07] <gmathews> It doesnt work for some weird reason
[10:07] <gmathews> i have it enabled
[10:07] <dr_willis> No idea.. I find it useless :)
[10:07] <gmathews> hahah but I wanna see what it does :)
[10:07] <dr_willis> twiddle with the settings  - it just folds up the window to a airplane and then flies off the screen.
[10:08] <cubexde> histo: Yeah thanks again :)
[10:08] <gmathews> oh well thanks for your time though guys
[10:08] <histo> gmathews, there is an animations add on I see
[10:08] <histo> cubexde, np
[10:08] <cubexde> exit
[10:08] <hashbrowns> dr_willis: then I'd be in a rather bad scenario because this NTLDR missing problem arose from a fresh install of GRUB.
[10:08] <gmathews> histo: is your plane folding?
[10:08] <histo> gmathews, like you can have your windows turn in to airplanes and fly away if you minimize
[10:09] <gmathews> my windows dont do that when I minimize ...did u just enable it histo ?
[10:09] <dr_willis> hashbrowns,  i dont see how grub installing would remove a FILE from the windows drive..    grub instlls to the MBR of the disk.
[10:09] <histo> gmathews, I'm looking threw settings right now hold up
[10:09] <dr_willis> hashbrowns,  last i saw ntldr missing was hd curruption on windows.
[10:09] <histo> gmathews, I see something about planes and their paths etc...
[10:09] <gmathews> sweetlings histo :)
[10:10] <histo> gmathews, I'm assuming you have compiz settings manager installed right?
[10:10] <hashbrowns> dr_willis: okay well I'll give it a go.  Hopefully it doesn't make ubuntu unbootable.
[10:10] <quatar-it> ﻿hi all. is there anyone of you or an exclusive channel which can help me with my webcam setup? I'll explain: it's a philips one, and it should use pwc drivers, or so I understood googling. Yesterday I tried to install modules, but i had problems doin "make" (i have no more the logs). I did not know what i was doing, i only did copy-and-paste from a forum page. But I think i have removed the only pwc*.ko file i had i
[10:10] <gmathews> histo : yes i do
[10:10] <dr_willis> hashbrowns,  if you overwrite the MBR it will remove grub.. You will need to restore the grub boot loader some how.
[10:10] <sara-> hi anyone know how to install second life a third party software package?
[10:10] <sara-> what syntax to use?
[10:10] <gmathews> I also enabled the animated add-ons in the effects section of the manager itself
[10:11] <dr_willis> hashbrowns,   I forget what the exact commands are for Vista, vs XP to fix all this.. one fixes the boot files.. another does the MBR
[10:11] <dr_willis> sara-,  second life May be at the  medibuntu repos..  check there yet
[10:11] <vladtsepesh1984> anyone can help me configuring netbeans on ubuntu???
[10:11] <dr_willis> !secondlife
[10:11] <dr_willis> !medibuntu
[10:12] <sara-> .
[10:12] <gmathews> hashbrowns: use fixboot rather then use fixmbr
[10:12] <histo> gmathews, I'm not sure how to enable this you might want to see if there are any compiz buffs or try in a compiz channel
[10:12] <vladtsepesh1984> when i start a new web project it says to me that i have to select catilina directory but i cant find it....
[10:12] <histo> gmathews, like #compiz
[10:12] <gmathews> histo: u enabled it as well right and nothing happened?
[10:12] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> fixmbr doesnt usually do much good.
[10:12] <sara-> dr_willis, nope
[10:12] <gmathews> ppl are all asleep on #compiz hahaha
[10:12] <gmathews> j #compiz
[10:12] <gmathews> whoops
[10:13] <histo> gmathews, ahh i see you enable it then you need to go to the animations window and enable them
[10:13] <gmathews> which animations window?
[10:13] <dr_willis> sara-,  bummer.. used to be at some site.. may been an earlier release.. Googling suggests the get-deb site has packages for it
[10:13] <narcarsiss> I have a bug to report
[10:13] <narcarsiss> apt-get install deluge-torrent also installs deluge-torrent-common rite but when you download .deb file off official website and try to install it. it conflicts with deluge-torrent-common and wont install and wont uninstall deluge-torrent-common automaticl
[10:14] <dr_willis> narcarsiss,  what 'official' web site?
[10:14] <sara-> dr_willis, i have the file
[10:14] <sara-> its just installing it
[10:14] <gmathews> histo: which animations window :)
[10:14] <dr_willis> sara-,   that wasent exactly what you asked then.. :) whats the file name?
[10:14] <histo> gmathews, Yeah your window folds in to airplane then flys to the task bar
[10:15] <_Nike_2> hello
[10:15] <narcarsiss> deluge official website
[10:15] <gmathews> histo what is the second step that you did after enabling the animated add-ons under effects?
[10:15] <histo> gmathews, you need to enable the animations add-ons  Then click on the animations and under the minimize tab add a new animation.
[10:15] <gmathews> shweet
[10:15] <histo> gmathews, did you find it?
[10:15] <starcannon> Hello everyone, can anyone direct me to a python 2.6.1 package for ubuntu?
[10:15] <_Nike_2> I installed ubuntu, I want know how install linuxthreads to install mysql
[10:15] <gmathews> checking now histo one sec :)
[10:15] <narcarsiss> the deluge package from the repos breakes the install of the downloaded 1.0.7 version
[10:15] <shahrooz> hi huys
[10:15] <_Nike_2> anyone know ?
[10:16] <shahrooz> i have a problem with wget
[10:16] <rww> narcarsiss: that isn't a bug. it's the predictable result of using incompatible packages. Either install deluge-torrent from the Ubuntu repositories or install deluge-torrent from the website. Not both.
[10:16] <dr_willis> narcarsiss,  its normally a bad idea to mix and match debs that way.  So its not really a 'bug'  in the ubuntu packages.   If you wan tto use  non-ubuntu packages.. then i would suggest manyually removing the  ubuntu ones
[10:16] <histo> gmathews, under effects is also "animations"   thats what controls them.. The "Animations Add-on"  just provides more of them under "animations" and more control.
[10:16] <shahrooz> i get 404error (not found) in wget but the file there is ! i'm sute
[10:16] <narcarsiss> i was trying to update it was getting a pop up
[10:16] <shahrooz> sure
[10:16] <_Nike_2> ?
[10:17] <shahrooz> look at this : wget http://www.futureworldco.com/my_python_works/game.py.tar.gz
[10:17] <_Nike_2> anyone know how get linuxthreads to ubuntu ?? I need to install mysql
[10:17] <shahrooz> link is working but wget can not download it
[10:17] <histo> gmathews, make sure you hafe a window type set
[10:17] <shahrooz> and i don't use any proxy
[10:17] <gmathews> \WOW!!!!!!!
[10:17] <narcarsiss> i removed them manually after i worked out why it would not install.... but i thort the ubuntu packages and the official website ones would be the same since i downloaded the one under ubuntu ibex
[10:17] <gmathews> histo : u a legend :) :)
[10:18] <_Nike_2> histo you know ?
[10:18] <_Nike_2> anyone ?
[10:18] <shahrooz> nobody want's help me ?
[10:18] <_Nike_2> and me too
[10:18] <_Nike_2> =/
[10:18] <erUSUL> _Nike_2: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[10:18] <erUSUL> _Nike_2: or use your preferred package manager
[10:18] <histo> !sgl | _Nike_2
[10:19] <histo> !sql | _Nike_2
[10:19] <histo> !lamp | _Nike_2
[10:19] <erUSUL> !fishing
[10:19] <gmathews> thanks histo  :)
[10:19] <_Nike_2> but I need the "linuxthreads" to install
[10:19] <shahrooz> HEEEEELP!!!!
[10:19] <_Nike_2> to insall the libs
[10:19] <histo> gmathews, np
[10:19] <erUSUL> _Nike_2: why are you compiling mysql from source ??
[10:20] <histo> gmathews, I don't know why'd you want anything but burn though
[10:20] <gmathews> what were the guys in compiz smoking i wonder hahahaha :P
[10:20] <gmathews> i just wanna amaze the girlfriend lol.
[10:20] <shahrooz> help help heeeeeelp
[10:20] <_Nike_2> erUSUL because one project that I want compile need of source
[10:20] <_Nike_2> and to compile
[10:20] <gmathews> love getting stoned and checking the compiz effects :p
[10:20] <shahrooz> ow man please sombody help me about wget !!!
[10:20] <erUSUL> _Nike_2: probably you just need the mysql dev packages
[10:20] <_Nike_2> need the"linuxthreads" =/
[10:20] <erUSUL> shahrooz: repeat the question
[10:20] <shahrooz> helloo i'm here :(
[10:20] <_Nike_2> erUSUL yes
[10:20] <gmathews> shahrooz: what is yourproblem
[10:20] <sara-> dr_willis, its called SecondLife-i686-1.21.6.99587
[10:21] <shahrooz> erUSUL: gmathews:  look at this : wget http://www.futureworldco.com/my_python_works/game.py.tar.gz
[10:21] <_Nike_2> erUSUL how install this without source of mysql
[10:21] <shahrooz> wget can not download that file
[10:21] <gmathews> cant u use your browser?
[10:21] <shahrooz> but the file is there and by link is downloadable
[10:21] <_Nike_2> ._.
[10:21] <_Nike_2> use firefox ....
[10:21] <_Nike_2> no more
[10:21] <_Nike_2> :P
[10:22] <FloodBot3> _Nike_2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:22] <erUSUL> _Nike_2: libmysqlclient15-dev
[10:22] <narcarsiss> use opera its fasssssst
[10:22] <gmathews> Google Chrome :!
[10:22] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> pffft, firefox > *
[10:22] <shahrooz> are you with me ?
[10:22] <narcarsiss> chrome gay slooooooow
[10:22] <nubuntu_> Hello i need some help with mounting a drive from livecd then when i try to access it I get a permission prohibated
[10:22] <gmathews> lol narcarsiss shussh
[10:22] <Flannel> narcarsiss: Please don't use that term pejoratively
[10:22] <erUSUL> shahrooz: i tested it gives 404 not found what's the problem?
[10:23] <narcarsiss> oh sorry :D
[10:23] <shahrooz> erUSUL: i don't know !!! tha is my problem
[10:23] <shahrooz> it's working in browser but wget can dl it
[10:23] <nubuntu_> Hello i need some help with mounting a drive from livecd then when i try to access it I get a permission prohibated
[10:23] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> shahrooz, Cant you use a browser to get it then? or using a shell?
[10:24] <_Nike_2> erusul thanks
[10:24] <shahrooz> CoUrPsE|DeAd: i can but i want use wget !
[10:24] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> nubuntu, sudo mount /dev/* /media/*
[10:24] <sara-> anyone using chorme cant type reboot cus it reboo.... oops i just rebooted
[10:24] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> shahrooz, Well it obviously aint working, so why not just use your browser this time....
[10:24] <gmathews> shahrooz: I have no clue why you would want to use wget...do u want to test wget or do u have a secret fetish for wget and that link?
[10:24] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Seems like your moaning about something that can be easily worked around.
[10:25] <nubuntu_> CoUrPsE i did but when i click on folder for drive doesnt allow me to access
[10:25] <shahrooz> gmathews: CoUrPsE|DeAd  look =>http://lists.freshrpms.net/pipermail/freshrpms-list/2007-July/014785.html there is a similar problem like mine
[10:25] <shahrooz> i want have a code to run my game
[10:25] <dr_willis> sara-,  no extension? could be its just a self instlkling executable..  sh ./whateveritscalled
[10:26] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> nubuntu, can you cd to it as root?
[10:26] <nubuntu_> How do i do that ive never used cd command
[10:27] <erUSUL> shahrooz: debugged it the siter rejects wget if you use a different user agent it works
[10:27] <erUSUL> shahrooz: example using opera user agent wget --user-agent="Opera/9.25 (Windows NT 6.0; U; en)" http://www.futureworldco.com/my_python_works/game.py.tar.gz
[10:27] <erUSUL> shahrooz: that works
[10:27] <quatar-it> !webcam
[10:28] <Ioneye> !VPN
 I jus attempted with cd I still get permission denied
[10:29] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> as root?
[10:30] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> oh, sorry, didnt see ya type up there.
[10:30] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> use sudo cd /media/*
[10:30] <_Nike_2> how I put the folder /home the some of /tmp because to send files to /home need permissions this is very bad =/
[10:30] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> then type your password in for user it says.
[10:30] <Jordan_U> CoUrPsE|DeAd, You can't "sudo cd"
[10:30] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> replace * with the drives u mounted.
[10:30] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Jordan_U, Cant ya?
[10:30] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> My bad.
[10:31] <Jordan_U> CoUrPsE|DeAd, cd is a shell builtin
[10:31] <dr_willis> _Nike_2,  you may want to clarify to the channel the whole problem. to explain whats going on.  as for an answer.. you could link /home to /tmp if you wanted.. but im not sure what that would fix.
[10:31] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> True, Was stoopid of moa.
[10:31] <roplan> hi all
[10:32] <nubuntu_> CoUrPsE|DeAd: used cd /dev/hda1\
[10:32] <nubuntu_> CoUrPsE|DeAd: it returned permission denied\
[10:32] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Yes.
[10:32] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> you have to mount it.
[10:32] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> do: mkdir /media/hadd1
[10:33] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> mount /dev/hda1 /mount/hdd1
[10:33] <nubuntu_> yah I already mounted
[10:33] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> erm.
[10:33] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> hda*
[10:33] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> You cant cd to the device.
[10:33] <drkop> hi ppl try to find how to fix cdebootstrap it stucks on "Configuring package cdebootstrap-helper-apt" (ubuntu 8.04 64bit)
[10:33] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> You have to cd to where you mounted it too.
[10:33] <nubuntu_> I no i cd to /media/hda1
[10:34] <ardchoille> I have an idea that I'd like to submit directly to the Ubuntu developers. How would I do that?
[10:34] <dr_willis> !brainstorm
[10:35] <ardchoille> dr_willis: from what I can tell, the ideas in brainstorm aren't even worked on, according to the "Ideas being work upon" page at brainstorm
[10:36] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  post a idea to actually look at the ideas.. :P
[10:36] <ardchoille> hahaha
[10:36] <dr_willis> I imagine they get looked at.. but last i looked there.. many were.. well.. lacking
[10:36] <ardchoille> true
[10:36] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> nubuntu_, Dunno then sorry, seems like your doing it right.
 Is there any way I can increase space allowed to be used by live cd I want to try another distro but file is to large currently
[10:38] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> nubuntu_, Dont know sorry, never tried livecd.
[10:39] <nubuntu_> ok thank you
[10:40] <tensai_> I installed ubuntu 8.10 with a 20G hard drive the other day. Got it set up, learning curve is steep (new to linux) but I'm loving it. So I went and bought a second 200G hd, plugged it in and booted. I opted for in the first install, but now I don't know where to start. Somebody just give me the next step? Maybe a good resource?
[10:41] <tensai_> opted for **LVM**
[10:41] <jimqode> tensai_, what do you want to do with your computer?
[10:42] <tensai_> hack the gibson
[10:42] <tensai_> I just want to learn
[10:42] <tensai_> about linux and specifically web servers and the like
[10:42] <tensai_> LAMP development
[10:42] <rww> !documentation | tensai_
[10:43] <rww> tensai_: and for LAMP on Ubuntu, take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:43] <sara-> dr_willis, i found a different package
[10:43] <tensai_> I'm looking for information specifically on LVM... just installed a new drive
[10:43] <sara-> its a .deb file
[10:44] <tarelerulz> I am ripping subtitles and I get text files that are what the pictures say .  I can go from picture to picture easy.  Is there text editor program that would let me go to the next text file easy ? so I could proread the text making sure it mater the pictures
[10:45] <rww> If there's anyone with ubottu write access around: !lvm points to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto , which doesn't exist. Unfortunately, a good replacement URL isn't readily apparent to me :(
[10:46] <Slart> !factoid
[10:47] <tensai_> If I set up my first drive with LVM do I have to use LVM on the second drive?
[10:47] <Slart> rww: in the usage info there's info on how to change the factoid
[10:47] <crhylove> I blew a power supply and got a new one.... but not with enough sata power cables.  I have a valid XP x64 partition, but I can't get it to boot with grub error 21.  How do I just boot that xp x64 partition?
[10:48] <hosstell> 2 Questions, 1.)  Does Ubunti have a partion recovery app, (say I dual boot an my win partion fails, can I restore an image through Ubuntu).  2.) Can Grub boot from ISOs.  I was thinking about booting to a win 98 ISO and then running ghost or something as a recovery option, is this possible?
[10:48] <rww> Slart: thanks
[10:49] <quatar-it> For all: why do i have Error of various kind when "make" pwc-10.0.12-rc1 obtained http://www.saillard.org/linux/pwc/files/pwc-10.0.12-rc1.tar.bz2 here? I have all kind of headers installed, on hardy.
[10:50] <jacobw-uk> hi there, i've got a problem with ubuntu on an acer aspire one, its not an aspire one specific problem though, every time the automatically logged on use is logged on, they are prompted for their password to unlock the keyring to provide the wireless key to network manager
[10:51] <jacobw-uk> how can i stop this happening, i.e. so the user does not have to enter their password in the process of starting up the computer
[10:51] <gmathews> hosstell: You can look for something called gparted
[10:52] <gmathews> !google gparted
[10:52] <gmathews> :[
[10:52] <hosstell> gmathews: For backing up?  Do you know if grub can boot to ISOs?
[10:52] <dr_willis> !gparted
[10:52] <gmathews> hosstell: not entirely sure... ;[
[10:53] <gmathews> thanks dr_willis
[10:53] <rww> gmathews: as far as I'm aware, gparted will solve neither of hosstell's problems. I could have overlooked something in it, i guess...
[10:53] <hosstell> gmathews: also, do you know if gparted retains bootloader info?
[10:53] <gmathews> lol i was just suggesting something mate :) im still a n00b.
[10:53] <dr_willis> jacobw-uk,  asking for the password to the keyring  is normal..    since the ireless passwords are stored in the keyring.
[10:53] <tensai_> if I've just installed a second drive and type fdisk -l  I should see the drive right? sda1,2,3 and there should be an sdb right?
[10:54] <dr_willis> jacobw-uk,  i see that Q get asked a lot.. but no idea on  a work around. I enter my password anyway . since i have a lot of OTHER passwords in the keyring then just the wireless
[10:54] <dr_willis> tensai_,  use 'sudo fdisk -l'
[10:54] <rww> quatar-it: Please paste the output/error messages to paste.ubuntu.com
[10:54] <dr_willis> tensai_,  and yes.. You should see all drives with the 'sudo fdisk -l'
[10:54] <hosstell> I am having the hardest time coming up with a solution for my friend's laptop.  He likes Windows but his CD-rom is hosed.  So I want to have a way to create a recovery partion that automatically re-images the windows partition.
[10:55] <jacobw-uk> hosstell: so you want to install a dual boot?
[10:56] <jacobw-uk> can u not boot windows with GRUB?
[10:56] <jacobw-uk> as to that specific thing, i've tried it in the past and as far as i know its not possible
[10:56] <dr_willis> You want a mini-linux install with restore software just to restore the windows partition eh?
[10:56] <hosstell> yep
[10:56] <hosstell> that is correct
[10:56] <dr_willis> Is how i REad his question. :)
[10:56] <hosstell> I am installing Ubuntu atm
[10:57] <hosstell> with XP already on it
[10:57] <hosstell> but I still need a recovery solution, and one that even HE cant mess up lol
[10:57] <dr_willis> SHould be doable..  not sure how would be the best way to do it.    Mondo/Mindi can archive/restore partions. proberly a dozen other tools to do it also.
[10:57] <d13_> minhtuyen
[10:57] <dr_willis> !backup
[10:58] <d13_> minhtuyen
[10:58] <dr_willis> You basically wan tto archive the windows partition to a file on the Linux install.. thn restore it as needed.
[10:58] <The_Joe_> Is that even possible?
[10:58] <rww> dr_willis, hosstell: Sounds like something that could be done with dd... but there are probably more user-friendly tools for it
[10:58] <hosstell> yes, OR.... fine a way to get grub to run ghost or something, I was thinking win 98 boot ISO or something
[10:58] <dr_willis> The_Joe_,  yes. should be...
[10:59] <quatar-it> rww: http://paste.ubuntu.com/91516/
[10:59] <y0315219> how i add "show desktop" to AWN?
[10:59] <dr_willis> The_Joe_,  clonezilla live-disrto does it. :)
[10:59] <The_Joe_> dr_willis, Sounds interesting
[11:00] <hosstell> rww: what is DD?
[11:01] <y0315219> what should i do if i want to add the "show the desktop" to AWN ?
[11:02] <rww> quatar-it: looks like someone using Fedora Core had the same problem. Perhaps http://www.mail-archive.com/pwc@lists.saillard.org/msg00501.html and http://www.mail-archive.com/pwc@lists.saillard.org/msg00503.html will help?
[11:03] <dr_willis> !dd
[11:03] <hosstell> drunk driving is bad mkay
[11:03] <quatar-it> rww, thanks.
[11:04] <quatar-it> But, which is the file in which i have to modify config.h in .....h? , rww
[11:05] <baddj> hello i am new to linux and i want to set up a web server is ubuntu server the best to get started?
[11:08] <baddj> NickServ
[11:09] <hosstell> well, I will mess around and get back to you tomorrow on my progress with the partition to partition recovery.
[11:09] <hosstell> thanks for the input all.
[11:09] <ddphillips> Hi.  I have a small problem turning off the backlight of my X41 laptop off.  When I run "xset dpms force off", the backlight is properly turned off, but about a second later, the backlight is turned back on, and the screen is pained black... Any ideas?
[11:10] <rww> quatar-it: /home/nicola/Scrivania/pwc-10.0.12-rc1/pwc.h , I think
[11:10] <eth01> what's the most appropriate method of utilizing the ubuntu operating system with say.. a laptop? i've looked into it, and read stuff about over-heating etc
[11:10] <baddj> hello i am new to linux and i want to know if ubuntu server would be the best to start off with to learn linux for a webserver?
[11:11] <bazhang> baddj, you need a xserver with that?
[11:11] <Neaai> baddj: anything will be good in that regard. For a webserver you best start reading about apache
[11:11] <The_Joe_> baddj, Just so you know - an X Server is a graphical interface.
[11:12] <eth01> (currently using vista atm)
[11:12] <rww> eth01: depends on the laptop. If it's listed on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops , that'd be a good start.
[11:12] <jacobw-uk> baddj: ubuntu-server would be pretty much ideal
[11:12] <bazhang> baddj, keep in mind that the server only install has no gui
[11:12] <eth01> rww: it isn't.
[11:13] <baddj> Okay as i got told my a friend try ubuntu or debine or something to get started with servers. is there a lot of docs on ubuntu commands and stuff?
[11:13] <bazhang> linuxcommand.org has some baddj
[11:13] <Neaai> .. and best start without a gui so you don't get distracted from shiny things.
[11:13] <magnetron> baddj→ i would install a regular ubuntu, then add Apache and the web server packages to that
[11:13] <jacobw-uk> baddj: ubuntu wiki and help.ubuntu.com
[11:13] <bazhang> and /msg ubottu rute for more baddj
[11:14] <rww> eth01: okay. Well, if I were you, I'd probably boot it from a Live CD and see what works and what doesn't. If you're more conservative, you could try looking for information on how compatible Ubuntu and Linux are with your laptop on your favorite search engine.
[11:14] <baddj> Okay thnx guys ill look at that site bazhang
[11:15] <Neaai> baddj: do a search in google for "rute.pdf" and the file you'll get is what you need for a really well organised start.
[11:15] <baddj> okay
[11:15] <mafaldaboy> how do i get fonts that can kick OSX's butt in ubuntu?
[11:16] <bazhang> !rute
[11:16] <balkian> !cmd
[11:17] <Zelda> hello everyone. Can someone help me configure my mouse?
[11:17]  * mafaldaboy asks again: how do i get nice fonts in ubuntu
[11:18] <eth01> which fonts?
[11:18] <mafaldaboy> do not give me a tldp, etc thing guys, it does not work
[11:18] <eth01> rww: thankies x
[11:18] <mafaldaboy> i want it to look nice, antialiasing is not working nice with 8.10
[11:18] <mafaldaboy> did anyone change freetype
[11:19] <Sogen> Hi , what's name of polish ubuntu channel ?
[11:19] <bazhang> Sogen, #ubuntu-pl
[11:19] <Sogen> thx
[11:19] <baddj> whats the diff from xserver and like gnome?
[11:20] <Slart> mafaldaboy: what's wrong with the fonts? can do you do a screenshot to show us?
[11:20] <Slart> baddj: they do different things
[11:20] <bazhang> baddj, xserver means a graphical desktop; there are variations such as kde, gnome, etc
[11:20] <Slart> baddj: look at wikipedia for X and gnome.. they explain it far better than I can
[11:20] <mafaldaboy> sure Slart
[11:20] <baddj> ok
[11:20] <mafaldaboy> sec
[11:20] <leafw> I have installed a crontab job via crontab -e, but it doesn't seem to be running. I want it to run every 10 minutes, so I setup */10 * * * * <thecommand>. The crontab -e uses my $EDITOR, which is vim, and on :wq it reports "crontab: installing new crontab". The command is tested to run fine, and has all absolute paths. So what could possibly be wrong?
[11:21] <smrtgyz> UBUNTU takes some getting use to, but I really like it...
[11:21] <gmathews> How can i see how much data i received/sent on my wired connection - the same way in windows I would right lick on the 2 flashing computers in my tray and see in properties?
[11:21] <mafaldaboy> just a sec
[11:21] <Tyczek> Hi. I have wifi card dlink dwl 520+. Do you know how to install it on ubuntu?
[11:21] <rww> Zelda: What, specifically, is wrong with it? Is it not working at all, are some buttons not working, etc.?
[11:22] <Slart> leafw: hmm.. I think you covered the usual mistakes there..what about permissions?
[11:22] <smrtgyz> everyone getting UBUNTU should go to http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/ even if WE look at it over and over again...
[11:22] <Slart> leafw: what is the command, btw?
[11:22] <rww> !ot > smrtgyz
[11:23] <bazhang> smrtgyz, tell the people in #ubuntu-offtopic they would like to hear
[11:23] <leafw> Slart: it's a custom python script that via feh changes my desktop bckgrund. Worked just fine in 8.04 (moved to 8.10 yesterday).
[11:23] <Zelda> yes. I have a logitech MX518. I guess it autodetected a 3 button mouse. this is a 7 button mouse. I would like the buttons on the side to "navigate" back and forward in web browsing. You know waht Im talking about?
[11:23] <rww> Zelda: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto and see if it helps
[11:24] <dr_willis> Zelda,  i recall seeing some good docs at the GENTOO wiki pages on that topic. :)i have an identcal mouse.. but i dont use the side buttons
[11:24] <leafw> Slart: it's also 2>&1 >> /home/<myusername/logcron, and nothing is logged there either. I simply think the command is just not run.
[11:24] <gmathews> can u update from 8.04 to 8.10 with the Intrepid CD?
[11:24] <Pierollo> hi
[11:24] <Slart> leafw: hmm... wasn't there a new python release recently? although that would make the script fail in a normal run too..
[11:24] <Zelda> yeah it worked before.. this 8.10 really is getting annoying.
[11:24] <leafw> Slart: the script works fine outside cron.
[11:24] <bazhang> gmathews, need the alternate cd to do that
[11:24] <Vinceman> do you have to mount a webcam for internetbroadcasting?
[11:24] <Slart> leafw: I haven't noticed any changes in crontab behaviour.. let me check if my crontab jobs run alright
[11:24] <Zelda> or the whole, Auto configure feature.
[11:25] <Pierollo> can someone suggest me a cool program to hack wpa?
[11:25] <rww> gmathews: and once you get the alternatve CD, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%20CD/DVD
[11:25] <mafaldaboy> ok guys, i got the shot
[11:25] <mafaldaboy> uploading now
[11:25] <Slart> leafw: all my jobs run as normal
[11:25] <gmathews> thanks bazhang and rww :)
[11:25] <mafaldaboy> any image host you like ?
[11:26] <leafw> Slart: then I don't get it. Services say that cron is running ...
[11:26] <aremay> !my
[11:26] <Slart> leafw: have you tried just creating a simple crontab entry? something simple like appending time and date to a text-file?
[11:26] <leafw> Slart: aha, I added a */1 * * * * echo "ok" >> /path/to/log and it printed ok ... so it is just refusing to run my script.
[11:26] <mafaldaboy> i'll go with imagehost
[11:26] <mafaldaboy> shack*
[11:26] <mafaldaboy> argh
[11:26] <leafw> Slart: the thought came to me before you mentioned it :)
[11:27] <smrtgyz> seeking as much ubuntu operating system training traing via video, as much as my brain can handle...
[11:27] <baddj> i can not seem to find the rute.pdf any where..
[11:27] <Slart> leafw: can't you append the output from the script to a log file too? see if you get any errors?
[11:28] <bazhang> baddj, hang on a second
[11:28] <baddj> ok
[11:28] <rww> Tyczek: I think that wireless card needs the madwifi drivers. Instructions for installing them are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Madwifi#Ubuntu%20Release%20Specific%20Info
[11:28] <mafaldaboy> http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/9630/shotjv7.png
[11:28] <Slart> leafw: oh.. and it's not one of those "there has to be an empty line at the end of the file" things?
[11:28] <mafaldaboy> here
[11:28] <leafw> Slart: did that, no errors printed. But now I know the error somewhere.
[11:28] <mafaldaboy> check my screenshot and see why i think my fonts suck :/
[11:28] <leafw> Slart: no, I tried that one too. Crontab -e removes any trailing lines.
[11:28] <Neaai> baddj: http://wireless.ictp.it/school_2002/lectures/fonda/MoreLinux/RUTE.PDF
[11:28] <mafaldaboy> i put full hinting on, and nothing changed, i can get it better only if i switch resolution to 1024x768
[11:29] <Tyczek> rww, I installed it via ndiswrapper. But it won't work. And at madwifi compatiblity list there is no such card.
[11:29] <mafaldaboy> it was not like this with the previous 8.04 edition
[11:29] <Slart> mafaldaboy: hmm.. the only bad thing I see is the menu-fonts
[11:29] <mafaldaboy> Slart, that too
[11:29] <baddj> Neaai thank you
[11:29] <smrtgyz> just throwing this out there to all of you computer experts, seeking a way to communicate with UBUNTU with thought and or BRAIN waves. (Just a thought)
[11:29] <mafaldaboy> I cannot stund this squared look of the fonts
[11:29] <leafw> Slart: the confusing part is that the script runs fine, no path problems, no matter in what directory one pastes that crontab -e commad entry
[11:29] <mafaldaboy> if you have any ideas on what to fix, share
[11:29] <Slart> mafaldaboy: tried using other fonts than the standard ones? or does all fonts look bad?
[11:30] <bazhang> !enter | mafaldaboy
[11:30] <Tyczek> rww, It works via ndiswrapper. I blacklisted old kernel module.
[11:30] <Tyczek> :)
[11:30] <mafaldaboy> Slart, all fonts look a bit bad
[11:30] <rww> Tyczek: excellent :). So everything works now?
[11:31] <mafaldaboy> i am on KDE4 as you see, but I can't seem to get things better within gnome either. It is making my eyes sore.
[11:31] <Tyczek> rww, Yes. ;) Thx.
[11:31] <rww> Tyczek: ( looks like I was seeing the G520, not the 520... dunno if they're the same card. http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/Compatibility/D-Link#DWL-G520 . But I guess it doesn't matter now )
[11:31] <Slart> mafaldaboy: well.. the only think I can come up with is trying other fonts and playing with the font aliasing parameters.. I haven't noticed anything on my install but I use gnome.. perhaps it's a KDE thing
[11:31] <cattle-rancher> ?
[11:31] <mafaldaboy> The only thing I have managed to dig out of google is that it could be that in 8.10 as in other distros they are having certain settings disabled in the defined freetype2 package from now on for patent issues
[11:32] <prahal_> hi Fn keys are not seen by xev but they are by gnome-keybinding-properties . What could go wrong with regards to xev ?
[11:32] <Tyczek> rww, Yea. :)
[11:32] <mafaldaboy> Slart, i am on LCD and i have set it to 96DPI with full hinting style and subpixel rendering in RGB mode
[11:32] <cattle-rancher> im still wondering what the problem is with the video?
[11:33] <smrtgyz> ﻿/join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:33] <zzc> hi
[11:33] <ValentineXX> smrtgyz: :D
[11:33] <ValentineXX> zzc: welcome
[11:33] <Vinceman> do you have to mount a webcam for internetbroadcasting?
[11:34] <Vinceman> Rafik
[11:34] <Slart> mafaldaboy: here's how my desktop looks.. http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotkm4.png
[11:34] <Rafik> hi Vinceman
[11:34] <mafaldaboy> sec going to look
[11:34] <zzc> ye
[11:35] <leafw> Slart: found the problem ... no DISPLAY variable. Duh -- this was a script to change the background. Thanks for the interaction.
[11:35] <cattle-rancher> ok plz rock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hFwYtB106I while i look
[11:35] <Vinceman> you just missed my question: do you have to mount a webcam for internetbroadcasting?
[11:35] <bazhang> cattle-rancher, dont paste that here
[11:35] <Melio> Vinceman:  no
[11:35] <Vinceman> why? because it seems to work on your PC itself fine
[11:35] <Melio> webcams are not storage
[11:35] <Slart> leafw: ahh.. tricky one
[11:35] <Vinceman> then why doesn't the broadcasting work?
[11:35] <leafw> Slart: indeed :)
[11:35] <mafaldaboy> Slart, still loading here, connection is slow
[11:35] <terryx> how do i handle rar files in ubuntu?
[11:35] <guest0001> how can i access fills from windows if i install ubuntu using wubi?
[11:35] <Vinceman> the image is garbled, not interlaced just screwed up
[11:35] <Melio> Vinceman: because you may not have flash enabled properly
[11:36] <Slart> !rar | terryx
[11:36] <mafaldaboy> terryx, install unrar from synaptic
[11:36] <Melio> Vinceman:  depends on where or how you broadcast it
[11:36] <cattle-rancher> no aphex twin here?
[11:36]  * cattle-rancher takes all the acid away from everyone
[11:36] <guest0001> i save all media in folder on windows desktop
[11:36] <Vinceman> flash is in the repos, no?
[11:36] <bazhang> cattle-rancher, dont paste random stuff here
[11:36] <Melio> Vinceman: it should be enabled in your browser
[11:36] <Melio> look at about:plugins in the url handler
[11:36] <Melio> er :
[11:36] <rww> guest0001: your Windows partition should be mounted in /host/, if I remember correctly.
[11:36] <Melio> : plugins
[11:36] <Melio> no space
[11:36] <FloodBot3> Melio: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:36] <mafaldaboy> Slart, your settings make up for a visibly better desktop
[11:37] <mafaldaboy> Slart, can I have your settings? Perhaps I can fix this, it is the same quality with gnome here
[11:37] <cattle-rancher> so the problem is your icons are huge?
[11:37] <ikonia> !mode +b championsleague!*@*.home.otenet.gr!#ubuntu-ops
[11:37] <gmathews> Does Mark Shuttleworth come in this channel?
[11:37] <cattle-rancher> terryx look for ark
[11:38] <cattle-rancher> ark handles rar files
[11:38] <cattle-rancher> =)
[11:38] <mafaldaboy> right
[11:38] <Vinceman> Melio: where can I find the url handler?
[11:38] <GNU\colossus> I'm in need of libqt3-mt as a 32bit SO on a x86_64 install; how would I go about installing that?
[11:38] <cattle-rancher> you might have to apt-get it
[11:38] <Slart> mafaldaboy: well.. for one thing I use subpixel antialiasing but with the fill hinting.. not just "slight" as the default setting is
[11:38] <cattle-rancher> lol i was about to say qt3 barf city
[11:38]  * rebel_kid blinks
[11:38] <bazhang> !offtopic | cattle-rancher
[11:38] <mafaldaboy> ok i use full hinting as well
[11:39] <bazhang> cattle-rancher, chat elsewhere
[11:39] <Vinceman> Melio, are you still there?
[11:39] <Slart> mafaldaboy: 96 dpi for font size, I use sans, 8 for all fonts except fixed width where I use Monospace, 8
[11:39] <mafaldaboy> Slart, what font do you use for desktop? I usually use bitstream vera sans, but this time it did not work
[11:39] <cattle-rancher> ok bazhang
[11:39] <mafaldaboy> Slart, ok, will try
[11:39] <Slart> mafaldaboy: I use the "Glossy" theme
[11:40] <Slart> mafaldaboy: sans
[11:40] <Slart> mafaldaboy: I don't know if compiz does something special.. it does some shadows for windows but that's about it
[11:40] <mafaldaboy> Slart, hmmm
[11:40] <guest0001> anyone know how much space a xubuntu install will take i want to do a wubi install on dell mini 9 and keep xp too?
[11:40] <Tyrath_> hi folks
[11:41] <guest0001> i have 16gb ssd
[11:41] <mafaldaboy> I think you might have given me an idea, could it be compiz changes a bit subpixel font smoothing?
[11:41] <Slart> mafaldaboy: possible
[11:41] <Jcb-> Ping?
[11:41] <Tyrath_> is it just me or does elinks not have a print feature, or a piping feature?
[11:41] <Tyrath_> because without either it's pretty hard to print :/
[11:41] <rww> Jcb-: pong
[11:41] <ValentineXX> how to formate a usb disk in ubuntu?
[11:41] <Tyrath_> i'm forced to download
[11:42] <Tyrath_> and then pipe files to my printer using lpr
[11:42] <mafaldaboy> Slart, but you don't have these problems there. So I guess I still have some work cut out for me
[11:42] <rww> guest0001: To install Xubuntu, you need 1.5 GB of free space on your hard disk. To install more than a base install, you'll need correspondingly more...
[11:43] <Tyrath_> !ask | Jcb-
[11:43] <Tyrath_> actually scrap that
[11:43] <Slart> mafaldaboy: well.. I hope you find out what it is
[11:43] <terryx> when i was trying to install unrar via terminal in the middle everything hangs up...can anyone tell me why?
[11:43] <mafaldaboy> me too *sighs*
[11:43] <Tyrath_> !who | Jcb-
[11:43] <Tyrath_> - that was what I meant
[11:43] <mafaldaboy> I will go brute force and reinstall the thing
[11:44] <Tyrath_> !elinks
[11:44] <Jokke`> Hello! i am transfering data from hard drive to USB hard drive but the transfer speed is only 80kt/s :S
[11:44] <Tyrath_> grrr!
[11:44] <ardchoille> !info elinks
[11:44] <Jokke`> where is the problem ??
[11:44] <Melio> Jokke`: usb is slow
[11:44] <Melio> that's the problem
[11:44] <Tyrath_> ardchoille: thanks but that's not what I'm after
[11:44] <pablo> i think i ruined a package called imspector, by doing a rm -rf /var/log/imspector, i mkdir again with same permissions, but i can not log anymore
[11:44] <Jcb-> Here's my issue, fios is down so I can not download k3b or anything else for that matter. I have a video though that needs burned with brasero however everytime I goto burn it the "disc burning setup" has burn "grayed" out.
[11:44] <Zelda> many thanks who ever sent me that page for the mouse issue.
[11:44] <Zelda> I fixed it.
[11:44] <Tyrath_> ardchoille: I'm after I help channel
[11:44] <terryx> when i was trying to install unrar via terminal in the middle everything hangs up...can anyone tell me why?
[11:44] <Vinceman> melio, but if you can receive from YouTube there must be some flash working on your PC!
[11:45] <Vinceman> Melio, sry
[11:45] <bazhang> terryx, try again and paste.ubuntu.com with the errors
[11:45] <Finnish> latest 11-kernel is not booting in my laptop, it just stays in the black screen after splash-window
[11:45] <Jokke`> Melio: USB 2.0 = ~1mb-5mb/s is normal speed
[11:45] <ardchoille> Tyrath_: #elinks ?
[11:46] <terryx> bazhang, no errors, just in middle of installation or download my whole pc hangs
[11:46] <Tyrath_> ardchoille: i'll try that. thanks. generally it's big in this channel tho, so I always pop a question
[11:46] <Agent_Ubuntu> bye all, I go to eat bb
[11:46] <bazhang> terryx, what does sudo apt-get update return
[11:46] <Tyrath_> ardchoille: and the people in #elinks can tend to be a bit grumpy :/
[11:46] <Zelda> bye
[11:46] <Ad_> any one know how to format usb  in ubunut
[11:47] <terryx> now its completed...
[11:47] <memfis> Hi, I'm having a nightmare getting wpa to work with an old orinoco minipci card. I've tried going through the ubuntu wireless wiki. Tried orinoco drivers from sourceforge which wont compile & tried using wpa_supplicant with ubuntu provided hermes or orinoco drivers. Does anyone have expirience in using wpa_supplicant or ndis drivers who could point me in the right direction?
[11:47] <Jcb-> Anyone see my issue above?
[11:47] <Melio> Jokke`: I suppose usb 2.0 is. but are you sure the drive is 2.0?
[11:47] <Slart> Ad_: try using gparted, it's an easy point and click interface
[11:47] <ardchoille> !format > Ad_
[11:47] <bazhang> terryx, and sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[11:47] <memfis> I know it's possible without recompiling the kernel, I just don't know how.
[11:47] <terryx> upgrade or update
[11:48] <terryx> ?
[11:48] <Tyrath_> terryx: you have do do update first
[11:48] <Jokke`> Melio:  you mean i need to update ubuntu to support USB 2.0 or what? USB hard drive & my computer is supporting USB 2.0
[11:48] <terryx> what if i don't want to update?
[11:48] <Tyrath_> terryx: just do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:48] <Tyrath_> terryx: what do you want to do?
[11:48] <Androidfan537> do i have space as big as host for wubi install or no
[11:48] <Slart> Jcb-: is there a cd in the drive?
[11:48] <terryx> i have just typed update its showing 45%, i want to cancel that...how?
[11:48] <bazhang> Androidfan537, how much space
[11:48] <Jcb-> Yes, dvd start.
[11:49] <Jcb-> S/start/Slart
[11:49] <Tyrath_> terryx: update won't install anything
[11:49] <Tyrath_> terryx: update just gets the list of updates
[11:49] <bazhang> terryx, let it finish
[11:49] <ardchoille> terryx: update simply updates your software sources, it's a good thing
[11:49] <Tyrath_> terryx: until you do sudo apt-get upgrade nothing will install. and it will verify that you want to install the items
[11:49] <terryx> i don't want to do anything.i just want to know why my computer freeze up...?
[11:49] <terryx> ok...its completed(update)...now?
[11:50] <bazhang> terryx, then follow what we are telling you
[11:50] <terryx> now i do upgrade or not?
[11:50] <Androidfan537> i have 500gb harddrive for conky to monitor windows space from wubi install be /host
[11:50] <Slart> Jcb-: and it fits on the dvd, the dvd isn't used already, all the options are correct etc?
[11:50] <Tyrath_> terryx: do you tend to do something before it freezes up or is it random?
[11:50] <bazhang> terryx, yes
[11:50]  * Jcb- is starting to wonder why he switched from bsd
[11:50] <Jcb-> Yep Slart its all set on that end
[11:51] <AprilHare> does anyone know of a ubuntu application or utility that supports HD Photo images?
[11:51] <bazhang> Androidfan537, why wubi?
[11:51] <Slart> AprilHare: what is a HD Photo?
[11:51] <Jcb-> Its a 4.4g dvd-r from philips, the video is 1h 53m long.
[11:51] <AprilHare> thats the famous Windows HD Photo image file format
[11:51] <terryx> now...i was just download/installing unrar and then its hangs up...for the first time...when i restart from c.p.u...my nvidia driver is deactivated...now i have activated it...
[11:51] <Tyrath_> terryx: if it freezes when you connect something it's best to run dmesg then output the text to a file (ie, dmesg > dmesg.file) then pastebin the dmesg file and have others look at it
[11:51] <AprilHare> that is Slart
[11:51] <Jcb-> Total actual size of the video is 703 MB
[11:52] <AprilHare> i tried the gimp etc and it is a brick wall
[11:52] <terryx> its downloading something..is that fine(upgrade)?
[11:52] <mungustas> hello! does any one now, how to use lftp thru socks5 proxy ?
[11:52] <bazhang> terryx, yes, let it finish
[11:52] <Tyrath_> terryx: if you have the program pastebinit you can simply pipe the output straight into pastebin it ie, dmesg | pastebinit
[11:52] <Jokke`> Can  someone help on my problem ? :S
[11:52] <Slart> AprilHare: ah.. it's patented by microsoft then.. perhaps install a vm with windows on it
[11:53] <terryx> ok what i have to type?
[11:53] <Tyrath_> terryx: to do what?
[11:53] <terryx> what i do now..its already upgrading?
[11:53] <terryx> should i wait?
[11:53] <gmathews> what is the URL for pastebin?
[11:53] <bazhang> terryx, do nothing right now
[11:53] <AprilHare> Slart, i do not approve of that solution :) i want ubuntu support! i believe it on a less restrictive licence
[11:53] <terryx> ok
[11:53] <rww> !pastebin | gmathews
[11:53] <bazhang> terryx, let it finish
[11:53] <Jcb-> Slart, any ideas on Brasero?
[11:54] <terryx> got it...
[11:54] <Tyrath_> gmathews: www.pastebin.com, www.pastebin.ca, pastebin.ubuntu.com
[11:54] <PurityOfEssence> Hello. How can I stop some users appearing in the fast user switch applet?
[11:54] <gmathews> ta :]
[11:54] <Slart> Jcb-: I can't think of any other things to try.. try with a new dvd.. try with some other dvd recorder.. try with another movie.. or combinations of these
[11:54] <Tyrath_> gmathews: there's many out there...
[11:54] <midoaday> slt
[11:54] <mick02> Good afternoon folks, I was wondering if anyone knew of a FREE ODBC driver to connect to a Pervasive SQL database?
[11:54] <bazhang> terryx, you can only use one instance of apt at a time; and it is a bad idea to interrupt it as a general rule
[11:54] <Jcb-> AprilHare, SoFixIt?
[11:54] <midoaday> je veus etr un
[11:54] <Slart> AprilHare: if you read the wikipedia it seems they haven't really decided about the license..
[11:54] <terryx> i have installed my nvidia driver via envy...so my computer hanging now
[11:54] <Tyrath_> gmathews: I just use a simple app called pastebinit to do my pastebins
[11:54] <Slart> AprilHare: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_Photo
[11:54] <bazhang> midoaday, #ubuntu-fr
[11:54] <ikonia> envy is not supported
[11:54] <Tyrath_> !fr | midoaday
[11:54] <Zelda> heres one that I think you guys cant answer: How do I get the symbol you go to, to log out, to stay the red power button instead of having a green circle when you sign into pidgin?
[11:54] <terryx> i mean so why my pc hanging now?
[11:55] <mungustas> hello! does any one now, how to use lftp thru socks5 proxy ?
[11:55] <Slart> AprilHare: or rather.. they haven't included it in the "we won't send the black helicopters if you use this"-promise
[11:55] <gmathews> http://paste.ubuntu.com/91539/  someone pls take a look
[11:55] <Tyrath_> midoaday: aussi, essayez de parler plus au langue courant, ca ira mieux
[11:55] <Slart> AprilHare: check the chapter "Licensing"
[11:55] <AprilHare> slart: you may be onto something Slart http://news.com.com/2100-1045_3-6153730.html
[11:55] <Zelda> anyone?
[11:56] <Tyrath_> gmathews: please state the problem first
[11:56] <midoaday> ok
[11:56] <Jokke`> anyone to help me ? :S
[11:56] <gmathews> Tyrath_: SATA hard resetting link - just posted the dmesg output there
[11:56] <midoaday> i have a problem for ubuntu
[11:56] <Zelda> whos ubuntu?
[11:57] <Zelda> ./whois ubuntu
[11:57] <Tyrath_> !ubuntu | Zelda
[11:57] <gmathews> ./hump Ubuntu
[11:57] <bazhang> Zelda, you might ask in the pidgin channel
[11:57] <Zelda> thanks.
[11:57] <Tyrath_> !spam
[11:57] <Zelda> heheh
[11:57] <Ad_> gmathews,https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/160015
[11:58] <Zelda> bazhang: is that an issue with pidgin?
[11:58] <Jcb-> Anyone else here able to help with Brasero?
[11:58] <Tyrath_> Jcb-: what's the problem?
[11:58] <bazhang> Zelda, not sure, but it sounds like a very pidgin specific issue; someone here may have heard of it, but as a rule a good idea to ask the experts there as well
[11:59] <silv3r_m001> hi there
[11:59] <Jcb-> I am attemping to burn a video to dvd, the dvd is fine, the video is fine. When attempting to burn I get to disk burning setup and 'burn' is grayed out.
[11:59] <gmathews> Ad_ i think it is a hardware issue but I want to know what exactly...Windows goes into a blue screen - thought Linux could be more specific.
[11:59] <Tyrath_> and guess what I still haven't received a reply from #elinks....
[11:59] <silv3r_m001> i am looking for some 3d games which can run without opengl or high memory graphics card .. mine has 2mb
[11:59] <RedMarlboro> hi all
[11:59] <Zelda> omg, wtf?!
[11:59] <Zelda> sorry.
[11:59] <Zelda> what was that bazhang?
[11:59] <Tyrath_> silv3r_m001: duke nukem?
[11:59] <ikonia> gmathews: ##windows guys will help you debug the bluescreen better
[11:59] <Jcb-> K3b isn't an option nor is downloading anything I am offline till vz repairs the fiber
[12:00] <bazhang> Zelda, please keep it family friendly
[12:00] <silv3r_m001> Tyrath_: let me check
[12:00] <Zelda> what did you say before that?
[12:00] <gmathews> lol screw windows... i get beginning of memory dump... Linux says hard resetting SATA link... I feel like investigating..
[12:00] <Tyrath_> Zelda: what's your problem?
[12:00] <bazhang> Zelda, post your question there as well, someone here may know but better more eyes see the issue
[12:01] <Zelda> Tyrath: nothing I got it fixed. Pidgin just decieded to close on me.
[12:01] <balkian> jcb: have you tried burning another thing?
[12:01] <Jcb-> Tyrath_: should I just haul the desktop to the office, burn the dvd and then fdisk and go back to freebsd?
[12:01] <Ad_> gmathews, ok ur disk in slave mode and try to use hardisk inspector software
[12:01] <mick02> Anyone know how I can connect my Ubuntu box to a Pervasive SQL database through ODBC? Preferable without having to pay lots of cash to Pervasive!?!
[12:01] <bazhang> Jcb-, this is a data dvd?
[12:01] <Jcb-> Nope first time I have ever burned with brasero, but cdrecord in terminal burns fine.
[12:02] <silv3r_m001> Tyrath_: is that free ?
[12:02] <Jcb-> It doesn't specify and I have used them for both they are philips 4.4g single layer
[12:02] <Tyrath_> Zelda: good :)
[12:02] <bazhang> Jcb-, what is it? movie, mp3 or other
[12:02] <RedMarlboro> help for setting  wifi netbook thanks
[12:02] <Jcb-> A movie (avi specificly)
[12:03] <Vinceman> Melia Melia Melia
[12:03] <bazhang> Jcb-, brasero wont do that if you plan on watching on a separate dvd player
[12:03] <balkian> jcb: are you trying to burn it as data or video dvd?
[12:03] <Jcb-> Video
[12:03] <bazhang> devede
[12:03] <balkian> jcb: you need to either convert it to mpeg or burn it as data
[12:04] <Jcb-> Ffmpeg will convert it, correct?
[12:04] <juro> what is the easiest way to move my complete ubuntu onto a new harddrive?
[12:04] <Tyrath_> Jcb-: I don't know what you're trying to do. But I generally personally use fdisk to see partitions (ie, sudo fdisk -l) then select the desired partition then type df in a terminal to find out where it is mounted to before interacting with it
[12:04] <Tyrath_> silv3r_m001: not sure. probably not :/
[12:04] <balkian> right, but if you haven't used it before I recommend you devede
[12:05] <Tyrath_> silv3r_m001: thought it's an old game so it has probably been out for ages
[12:05] <AslanMan> Hi, please advice. I want to create another hd partition for my server files (of course local server) what best to choose, fat32 or ext3?
[12:05] <Jcb-> I have used ffmpeg for quite a while, just hope that ubuntu includes it as I didn't apt-get it before fios went dead.
[12:05] <benedek> AslanMan: If you only use Linux, ext3
[12:05] <Gjhw> AslanMan: ext3
[12:05] <bazhang> Jcb-, get the version from medibuntu.org
[12:06] <Tyrath_> Jcb-: if you're trying to write a movie to the partition mount just simply cp <movie path> <partition mount path>
[12:06] <Tyrath_> Jcb-: you will probably have to type sudo before interacting with partitions
[12:06] <AslanMan> benedek, Gjhw yes, only linux. Thanks.
[12:06] <Jcb-> Tyrath_, that's not at all what I am trying to do.
[12:07] <Tyrath_> Jcb-: what are you trying to do?
[12:07] <terryx> why i need to do full upgrade?
[12:07] <balkian> Tyrath: I think his problem is solved, ;)
[12:07] <balkian> jcb: right?
[12:07] <aremay> terryx : use this sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177
[12:07] <Tyrath_> balkian: cool :)
[12:07] <Jcb-> Medibuntu won't be of much help, fios is down I am irc'ing via my bberry.
[12:07] <Jcb-> Yep balkian
[12:07] <terryx> aremay, i have that...thats not my prob..
[12:07] <aremay> i use that command to install nvidia driver
[12:08] <terryx> why i need to do full upgrade?
[12:08] <Tyrath_> terryx: because an upgrade may contain patches to fix up bugs in software
[12:08] <terryx> ok
[12:08] <bazhang> terryx, for security reasons and app compatibility purposes
[12:08] <AslanMan> Guys, if I want to extend (increase the size) of the partition on which ubuntu is installed using gparted, is there a high risk of loosing data?
[12:08] <mungustas> hello! does any one now, how to use lftp thru socks5 proxy ?
[12:08] <Tyrath_> terryx: and this freeze may be a result of a bug
[12:09] <bazhang> AslanMan, of course there is always a risk no matter the OS
[12:09] <terryx> freeze problem occurs for reason display or upgrade or more reasons?
[12:09]  * Tyrath_ hates partition stuff
[12:10] <bazhang> terryx, we have yet to troubleshoot this, please finish upgrading first
[12:10] <gmathews> !medibuntu
[12:10] <AslanMan> Ok, any idea of fast backup for the whole partition to another keeping all remissions (which means by restoring the backup everything must go back as it was)
[12:10] <terryx> ok
[12:10] <Jcb-> balkian, ffmpeg -i file.avi -b 800k file.mpeg correct?
[12:10] <Tyrath_> terryx: probably because something's forcing your cpu to look for data in memory that may not exist
[12:10] <terryx> is there any tips for increasing internet speed or computer speed in ubuntu?
[12:10] <bazhang> AslanMan, /msg ubottu backup for some links
[12:10] <ikonia> terryx: get supported hardware (network card especially) and get a solid ISP
[12:10] <balkian> jcb: I think so, but I haven't used ffmpeg for a long time, ;) sorry
[12:11] <Tyrath_> terryx: yes. download as many low graphic, small size applications as you can
[12:11] <zorrolero> mungustas: maybe lftp will recognize your $http_proxy-env-variable, so try to set it with "export http_proxy=http://$PROXYNAME:$PROXYPORT
[12:11] <Tyrath_> terryx: I generally stick to the terminal based applications as much as possible
[12:11] <terryx> i have 256kbps internet speed(30 download speed)
[12:11] <terryx> ok
[12:11] <Tyrath_> terryx: but you will be trading user friendliness for speed
[12:11] <Jcb-> Terryx, buy a Juniper MX 240 and get 2x GigE's over metro ethernet. =P
[12:11] <Androidfan856> im back was saying want to try out wubi cause i wanna use it on my dell mini 9
[12:11] <Tyrath_> terryx: that is. until you get used to those programs
[12:12] <terryx> ok
[12:12] <terryx> thanx
[12:12] <Tyrath_> np :)
[12:12] <terryx> can i browse in firefox while upgrading in process in terminal?
[12:12] <Androidfan856> on my desktop i use xubuntu as backup and vista but use sabayon as primary
[12:12] <Tyrath_> anyhow I'm gonna shoot. gotta get something achieved
[12:12] <Tyrath_> catch you folks
[12:12] <terryx> is there any harm in it?
[12:12] <balkian> terryx: yeap
[12:12] <mafaldaboy> ikonia, worked?
[12:12] <Androidfan856> i wondered how well wubi does for dell mini 9
[12:12] <mikebeecham> hi guys...I wonder if someone can help -- I have a folder on my mac downstairs that I want to share through SMB.  I have gone through the necessary sharing process on the Mac.  Upstairs on Ubuntu, I have gone through 'network', and can see the folder in question.  However, when I try to click into each album folder within the main music folder, it wont let me in.  Is this a Mac or Ubuntu issue?
[12:13] <ikonia> mafaldaboy: nope, but thanks for the tst
[12:13] <ikonia> test
[12:13] <matrix_> hey iam usin pidgin when somebody is sendin me a file mp3 where in which mapp will i have the mp3 i can not find it
[12:13] <gmathews> Next to Ubuntu which is the other popular Distros?
[12:13] <mafaldaboy> np
[12:13] <bazhang> gmathews, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[12:13] <matrix_> hey iam usin pidgin when somebody is sendin me a file mp3 where in which folder will i have the mp3 i can not find it
[12:13] <gmathews> okay bazhang
[12:13] <benedek> gmathews: Gentoo is pretty good if you're experienced with Linux...
[12:13] <Jcb-> gmathews, debian, fedora and centos are what I see downloaded the most on the mirrors besides ubuntu.
[12:14] <balkian> gmathews: www.ditrowatch.com
[12:14] <Jcb-> As well as gentoo
[12:14] <Androidfan856> i love sabayon its gentoo based
[12:14] <y0315219> what should i do if i want to add the "show desktop" to AWN?
[12:14] <bazhang> y0315219, check the awn faq
[12:15] <bazhang> y0315219, /msg ubottu awn for the link
[12:15] <balkian> www.distrowatch.com sorry for the typo
[12:15] <gmathews> thanks guys :]
[12:15] <y0315219> oh
[12:15] <Jcb-> My movie is converting and I still need to change. So I'll be back in a few.
[12:15] <matrix_> hey iam usin pidgin when somebody is sendin me a file mp3 where in which folder will i have the mp3 i can not find it
[12:15] <Jcb-> Thanks again balkian
[12:15] <Androidfan856> can one linux distro remote to another
[12:15] <balkian> jcb: you're welcome, ;)
[12:15] <terryx> i am using deluge bittorent client for downloading...is it fine?
[12:15] <matrix_> yes
[12:15] <thebloggu> hey there
[12:15] <benedek> Androidfan856: Sure, if the other one has an SSH server running
[12:15] <Jcb-> 'Remote' to another do you mean vnc or ssh?
[12:16] <matrix_> hey iam usin pidgin when somebody is sendin me a file mp3 where in which folder will i have the mp3 i can not find it
[12:16] <thebloggu> can someone tell me a way to install all the software in one machine in another ?
[12:16] <Androidfan856> terryx i like that one and transmission
[12:16] <terryx> because when my computer hangs...my download from deluge in progress
[12:16] <terryx> i am using deluge bittorent client for downloading...is it fine?
[12:16] <Jcb-> Matrix, where ever you have it set to go just grep for it?
[12:16] <terryx> i am using deluge bittorent client for downloading...is it fine?
[12:16] <Androidfan856> jcb like remote desktop like windows
[12:16] <terryx> because when my computer hangs...my download from deluge in progress
[12:16] <FloodBot3> terryx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:17] <terryx> ok
[12:17] <Jcb-> Terryx I am on a blackberry and saw your question fine, no need to flood.
[12:17] <balkian> thebloggu: I think you can use synaptic to save the currently installed apps and then use the selections file to install them in another pc
[12:17] <terryx> koi indian hai yaha per?????????
[12:17] <thebloggu> balkian, do you know how you can do it ?
[12:17] <terryx> batao yaar....
[12:17] <Jcb-> Deluge is fine (I personally wine utorrent) but everyone has their own opinion.
[12:18] <bazhang> y0315219, please check the frequently asked questions (faq) on awn site
[12:18] <bazhang> !awn | y0315219
[12:18] <terryx> need to go now...bye guys n thank you for your help...:)
[12:18] <bazhang> terryx, english here and stay on topic
[12:18] <terryx> i see u soon
[12:21] <whitedox> Whenever I try logging into eBay, it says my browser (firefox) is rejecting cookies. How do I enable them? There is no options under Tools.
[12:22] <rebel_kid> whitedox, edit -> preferences
[12:22] <rebel_kid> its in there
[12:22] <jin__> what is the command to get the cpu usage in percentage?
[12:22] <rebel_kid> jin__, top should work for that
[12:23] <slava_dp> jin__, htop is better but you have to install that
[12:23]  * rebel_kid agrees
[12:23] <jin__> rebel_kid: I only want to ouput the cpu usage percentage to a textfile very 5 minutes. I don't want to watch it all the time
[12:24] <rebel_kid> jin__ i believe there is a file that stores this data updated every second or so, but i couldnt tell you where
[12:24] <mosiac> ok im stupid and back for help
[12:25] <rebel_kid> mosiac.... with?
[12:25] <mosiac> im tryng to mount my sd card
[12:25] <mosiac> this should be simple but i for g
[12:25] <mosiac> forgot
[12:26] <mosiac> its on /dev/sdc and i have a dir for it but i forgot the filesystem stuff
[12:26]  * rebel_kid passes to someone with experience with that
[12:26] <slava_dp> jin__, you could try vmstat, cpu load is printed in the end.
[12:27] <jin__> slava_dp: is that in percentage? if so which one? cause I see 4 values
[12:28] <jin__> actually I see 5 values
[12:28] <rebel_kid> jin__, i believe it is us
[12:28] <mosiac> ok cancel my first question i got that done, now how to i change permissions for the card for some reason by default only root has access how can i add my username to access
[12:29] <jin__> rebel_kid: that not in percentage
[12:29] <jin__> us: Time spent running non-kernel code. (user time, including nice time)
[12:29] <rebel_kid> mosiac, man chmod and man chown (those can change permissions and ownership)
[12:29] <balkian> mosiac: sudo chown <youruser> <dir>, or sudo chmod o+rw <dir>
[12:30] <balkian> mosiac: but check the man pages as rebel_kid told you for more info ;)
[12:31] <mosiac> hehe ok i did what you said but it says i dont have permission to change permissions on the directory even with sudo
[12:32] <veloc1ty> mosiac, you need to do chmod -R
[12:33] <MiniCow> I've got a system with a hosed libc6 package instalation (crash during upgrade). I'm trying to reinstall the original libc6 package, and getting "subproocess pre-installation script killed by signal (seg fault)" no matter what I try. Any ideas?
[12:35] <mosiac> with the -R command do i type anything else because its not liking just that command
[12:36] <mosiac> is there a way i can just edit my fstab so i dont have to do this everytime i turn on the computer
[12:36] <Zelda> night./
[12:37] <Zelda> er....
[12:37] <mon^rch> what is the chmod command for me to own all my files so nobody can browse my home dir... what is it again?
[12:37] <sleepy_cat> hi anyone knows about the new additions in webkit-r39450\
[12:37] <veloc1ty> mosiac, you use the same command like before, but with -R as an option
[12:37] <veloc1ty> like chmod -R 777 /my/folder/
[12:38] <spdz2> My Windows machine has completely died.  I have booted into Ubuntu from the CD.  Bizarrely I cannot eject the CD.  Is there a reason for this?
[12:38] <spdz2> It is also unable to mount volume?
[12:38] <veloc1ty> spdz2, it is a live system wich is started from the CD, you can't eject it when it's running
[12:39] <DRebellion> spdz2, perhaps a hard drive failure?
[12:39] <sleepy_cat> uhh webkit-r39450
[12:39] <sleepy_cat> whats new in this one
[12:39] <spdz2> omg I am badly stuffed.  I need to burn a DVD.   Is there any way?
[12:40] <veloc1ty> spdz2, you can either install ubuntu or run it from a usb drive / stick
[12:40] <spdz2> Why on earth can I not use CD drive?  surely everything can be loaded into memory?  it is not accessing the drive...
[12:41] <Zelda> Ok so the guys at #pidgin told me that its an issue with Ubuntu.
[12:41] <DRebellion> spdz2, ubuntu doesn't provide the option to load to ram by default. The only livecd i can remember off the top of my head would be backtrack that does this, but I don't really use many livecds ; )
[12:41] <mon^rch> what is the chmod command for me to own all my files so nobody can browse my home dir... what is it again?
[12:42] <Jcb-> Balkian ping
[12:42] <Zelda> Bazhang: you still here?
[12:42] <Jcb-> I still can't burn a video even with it converted to mpeg
[12:43] <_coredump_> mahlzeit
[12:43] <Zelda> does anyone here know how to keep the user switcher panel from switching buttons when loggin into pidgin?
[12:44] <Zelda> *logging rather
[12:44] <enigma> HI I have problem, I make mistake and run such command
[12:44] <enigma> sudo chmod -R 0777 /var/
[12:44] <enigma> next I change to sudo chmod -R 0700 /var/
[12:44] <enigma> beacuse when I use sudo tehe was some warning message
[12:44] <enigma> but now I have problem with updater
[12:45] <enigma> is any way to back to old chmods ??
[12:45] <Zelda> did they do something to the user switcher panel from 8.04 --> 8.10?
[12:47] <Zelda> anyone?
[12:49] <hatman> http://www.fianceexposed.com/index.php?c=viral&m=index&id=28ae03cf243604eee3ff9f8b741f499d
[12:49] <Zelda> hm a Heuy Lewis Song..
[12:50] <hatman> http://www.fianceexposed.com/index.php?c=viral&m=index&id=28ae03cf243604eee3ff9f8b741f499d
[12:50] <Zelda> "Back to the Future" sound track..
[12:50] <Zelda> someone kick hatman.
[12:50] <Zelda> !ban hatman
[12:50] <mylisto> hey everyone
[12:50] <mylisto> I'm having a problem with my webcam in skype
[12:50] <mylisto> and so far I found this as a fix/work around
[12:50] <gizmo> !cheese
[12:51] <mylisto> Just not sure how to do it...
[12:51] <mylisto> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5955888&postcount=4
[12:51] <gizmo> try cheese mylisto
[12:51] <mylisto> just read about it...whats it do?
[12:51] <Zelda> anyone know about the user switcher panel?
[12:53] <Zelda> anyone still awake?
[12:53] <Jcb-> Awake? Does half awake count?
[12:53] <mylisto> I am
[12:53] <Zelda> heh. well someone woke me up.
[12:53] <Zelda> I have to be at work in an hour.
[12:53] <Zelda> :(
[12:54] <Jcb-> I have to burn a video and drop it off then I am done till jan 6th
[12:54] <oma-opa> hi, I want to install the adobe flash plugin on hardy 8.04 I added the medibuntu repos and tried to install this one: http://pastebin.com/m7db4076e but when I open firefox, youtube tells me there is no flash installed, what can I do?
[12:54] <balkian> uhm it's 13:54 here, but I'll be sleeping in 6 minutes, holy siesta :D
[12:54] <Zelda> restart your computer.
[12:54] <Zelda> or restart x
[12:54] <Jcb-> Did you apt-get the resitricted extras?
[12:55] <Jcb-> Restricted*
[12:55] <oma-opa> yes I did
[12:55] <Zelda> then restart
[12:55] <Jcb-> Then restart?
[12:55] <oma-opa> me?
[12:55] <Jcb-> The guy behind you.
[12:56] <Jcb-> Yes you :)
[12:56] <wiildchild> if anybody use openbox can you contact me MP please
[12:56] <oma-opa> ok Ill have a try
[12:57] <Zelda> is there a better IRC Chat program to use other than pidgin?
[12:57] <balkian> Zelda: I use xchat in gnome, konversation in kde
[12:57] <DIFH-iceroot> Zelda: irssi, but everyone will tell yu another program
[12:57] <Zelda> and thats in the repos?
[12:57] <ermoved> xubuntu intrepid.. has stopped loading the volume control panel app.  tried running from terminal and not getting an error.. any ideas where to look?
[12:57] <Jcb-> I use irssi myself
[12:58] <Zelda> heh why that the command line based IRC?
[12:58] <Jcb-> Just sudo apt-get install irssi
[12:58] <Zelda> thanks. I know how to install.
[12:58] <Jcb-> Yes.
[12:58] <balkian> I'm not pro enough to use irssi :D
[12:58] <zwobble> hey there, ive been send here by the guys from #samba .. considering a possible distro / packaging issue with samba
[12:58] <DIFH-iceroot> Zelda: you can use irssi as a bnc on a vserver
[12:58] <Zelda> som xchat better?
[12:58] <Zelda> er so,
[12:58] <Jcb-> I've used irssi for years.
[12:58] <DIFH-iceroot> Zelda: with screen and ssh + irc-proxy to connect irssi with x-chat and so on
[12:59] <zwobble> this is the exact error: http://pastebin.com/m4168516   <-- there is no samba directory in /etc
[12:59] <balkian> just kidding, Zelda :P
[12:59] <Jcb-> Xchat is fine too.
[12:59] <gizmo> what is the good use for ssh that have in my terminal?
[12:59] <DIFH-iceroot> irssi can also handel icq, msn, yahoo, jabber (bitlbee)
[12:59] <Jcb-> There's BX too.
[12:59] <Zelda> balkian: what are you kidding about?
[12:59] <santiago> join kubuntu
[12:59] <santiago> hello!
[12:59] <balkian> you don't need to be a pro to use irssi :P
[12:59] <Jcb-> Hello.
[13:00] <oma-opa> worked! thanks a lot
[13:00] <santiago> who is the .txt for linux?
[13:00] <Zelda> yea
[13:00] <Jcb-> The .txt?
[13:00] <ranok> santiago: what?
[13:00] <thebloggu> is anyone having issues with autologin in google services in firefox ?
[13:00] <Zelda> LOL
[13:00] <Jcb-> Np have fun with flash
[13:00] <Jcb-> Thebloggu, no.
[13:00] <eugen> co to jest
[13:01] <Jcb-> Opera > Firefox =P
[13:01] <thebloggu> Jcb-, everytime i use firefox i have to login in gmail. tried deleting cookies, restarting, make a new profile and use login managers
[13:02] <zwobble> Samba install error: http://pastebin.com/m4168516   <-- there is no samba directory in /etc
[13:03] <Jcb-> Thebloggu, I wish I could help you but I do not believe in saving passwords or autologging in, nor do I use firefox. :(
[13:03] <oma-opa> when I open synaptic to choose my software repos, there are two options: 1. (sry translated from german to english) download updates only  2. install security updates without asking.    is there an option that will install all available updates in the background, without asking for permission? (I didnt add hardy-proposed to sources.list)
[13:04] <ortsvorsteher> oma-opa: you can also try #ubuntu-de ;)
[13:04] <oma-opa> thx
[13:04] <thebloggu> Jcb-, thanks anyway
[13:04] <thecube> is tor really anonymous?
[13:05] <skoef> thecube: i believe they don't guarantee 100% anonymity
[13:06] <mylisto> argh
[13:06] <balkian> skoef: nobody does
[13:06] <Jcb-> Tor is anon, but of course the person running the node could log. But it's doubtful.
[13:06] <Zelda> anyone know how to disable the user switcher panel from changing the default power button (red) to the green circle when you load pidgin?
[13:06] <skoef> balkian: true
[13:06] <mylisto> anyone have troubles with webcams in skype?
[13:06] <mylisto> especially getting a green screen?
[13:06] <gizmo> mylisto, what your webcam brand?
[13:06] <zwobble> Issue with samba init script..  http://paste.ubuntu.com/91565/   <-- /etc/samba missing
[13:06] <ermoved> thecube, no, they're not "really anonymous" but it's as close as you'll need for general practice
[13:06] <gizmo> mylisto, is it built in your computer or not?
[13:06] <mylisto> phillips
[13:07] <mylisto> apparently its a skype problem
[13:07] <mylisto> not built on
[13:07] <gizmo> !webcam | mylisto
[13:07] <thecube> thx guys
[13:07] <skoef> wg 62
[13:07] <mylisto> gizmo
[13:07] <gizmo> mylisto,  or you can test your webcam using cheese | 'sudo apt-get install cheese
[13:08] <mylisto> whats !webcam do?
[13:08] <mylisto> the webcam works
[13:08] <Jcb-> Anyone here have trouble with brasero?
[13:08] <thecube> its seems to work quite well except the browsing speed
[13:08] <mylisto> just not in skype
[13:08] <jin__> how do you put the output of the commands date and "cat /proc/stat  | grep -w cpu" to a output file on the same line?
[13:08] <gizmo> :x
[13:08] <gizmo> lol i thought webcam :)
[13:08] <gizmo> sorry i have mistake.
[13:09] <Zelda> Does anyone know anything about the User Switching Panel?
[13:10] <thebloggu> everytime i use firefox i have to login in gmail. tried deleting cookies, restarting, make a new profile and use login managers
[13:10] <Jcb-> Never even heard of it.
[13:10] <Neaai> jin__: cat /proc/stat  | grep -w cpu  > thefile.name.txt
[13:10] <Zelda> its the panel in the top right that has your user name and the power button right next to it.
[13:10] <jin__> Neaai: but I also want the current date on that same line
[13:10] <kret_> im hate ubuntu im hate linux fuck linux:/!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@!
[13:11] <DIFH-iceroot> kret_: bye
[13:11] <Zelda> ok.
[13:11] <Zelda> BOOT!
[13:11] <Zelda> LOL. thanks.
[13:12] <Jcb-> He's just pissed that 'rm -rf /' didn't fix his problem.
[13:12] <balkian> lol
[13:12] <Pici> Jcb-: Please don't suggest that, even jokingly.
[13:12] <ortsvorsteher> maybe rm -rf take too long...
[13:12] <mylisto> what commands can I use to find what video devices are isntalled
[13:12] <mylisto> ie the /dev/video's?
[13:12] <Zelda> call me stupid, but doesnt that remove the root directory?
[13:12] <Jcb-> Pici, does anyone even fall for that?
[13:12] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> lspci
[13:13] <rnd-1> mylisto : see the Xorg config files
[13:13] <Kartagis> what process do I need to kill in order to be able to rmmod snd_hda_intel?
[13:13] <mylisto> ?
[13:13] <Jcb-> Yes the entire file system zelda
[13:13] <Zelda> heh. thought so
[13:13] <Pici> Jcb-: Yes.
[13:13] <Neaai> jin__: echo -n " `date` : " >  thefile.name.txt ; cat /proc/stat  | grep -w cpu  >> thefile.name.txt
[13:13] <miaviator278> Kartagis: rmmod -f snd_hda_intel
[13:13] <Jcb-> *shakes his head*
[13:14] <Zelda> sorry. Im not really good with unix commands.
[13:14] <Zelda> but I could figure them out
[13:14] <Kartagis> miaviator278, ERROR: Removing 'snd_hda_intel': Resource temporarily unavailable
[13:15] <saulus> Why is my windows able to login users, even when smbd and nmbd and ldap (and winbind - not used) is off? How can I change that? Please help!
[13:15] <balkian> guys, got to go, it's been a pleasure ;)
[13:15] <miaviator278> @Kartagis: lsmod |grep snd_hda_intel
[13:15] <Zelda> thanks for the help
[13:15] <Zelda> have a good one Balkian
[13:15] <Jcb-> Laters balkian
[13:15] <rnd-1> mylisto : see /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:15] <mylisto> how?
[13:15] <balkian> good luck with brasero, jcb-
[13:15] <krishnan> what is wrong with this command "sudo cp -R ./upload/ /var/www/forums"
[13:16] <Zelda> use nero. its better.
[13:16] <rnd-1> mylisto : grep video /etc/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:16] <Kartagis> miaviator278, http://pastebin.com/f51019a58
[13:16] <jin__> Neaai: thanks :-) works perfect
[13:16] <rnd-1> mylisto : or grep --color /dev /etc/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:16] <Jcb-> Thanks, anyone else know much about brasero?
[13:16] <miaviator278> @Kartagis: should list what other modules are using it.  or you could reload alsa /etc/init.d/alsa reload
[13:16] <Zelda> jcb: ever used NeroLinux?
[13:17] <gmathews> Hi is it possible to take a video of what is happening on my desktop - like a screenshot - just into a video of like 10 seconds?
[13:17] <miaviator278> @Kartagis: reloading also would be a better choice, why are you trying to unload the sound module?
[13:17] <mylisto> didn't do anything
[13:17] <ortsvorsteher> krishnan: i would try 'sudo cp -rp upload /var/www/forums/
[13:17] <fosco_> gmathews: gtk-recordmydesktop
[13:17] <miaviator278> @gmathews: istanbul or gtk-recordmydesktop
[13:17] <gmathews> thanks
[13:18] <fosco_> gmathews: some samples in www.youtube.com/fosco222
[13:18] <Kartagis> miaviator278, to apply a colution i got in #alsa
[13:18] <Jcb-> Zelda, no and brasero is my only option. Verizon fios is out in my area.
[13:18] <Kartagis> solution*
[13:18] <Pici> Jcb-: Whats wrong with Brasero?
[13:19] <miaviator278> @Kartagis: nice of that solution to not include unloading modules.  What isn't working?
[13:19] <krishnan> ortsvorsteher: iam geting this error "cp: cannot stat `upload': No such file or directory"
[13:19] <Jcb-> Pici, I am attempting to burn a video to a dvd-r. It's under the file/time limit. I get as far as burning setup where burn is then grayed out.
[13:19] <Subdolus> Is there a way to use more than one OSS sound mixed program at once? For example, Skype and a movie at the same time?
[13:19] <Zelda> what media are you using?
[13:20] <Kartagis> miaviator278, sound comes from both speakers and earphones
[13:20] <Bodsda> Hi, my brother needs an OS light enough to run on a 15 year old comp, Is ubuntu + fluxbox / xfce    gonna be light enough, or is there anything, user friendly and lighter?
[13:20] <Subdolus> Zelda: What do you mean?
[13:20] <Jcb-> Zelda, philip's dvd-r 4.4g single layer
[13:20] <Subdolus> Oh :-(
[13:20] <ortsvorsteher> krishnan: try at first to change to directory where directory upload is. or you take the full pathname like /tmp/upload
[13:20] <Zelda> and the video is a single layer?
[13:20] <quatar> hi all! In apt-get install, how can i indicate from which package it shoul install a virtual package?
[13:21] <Zelda> yes you stated that.
[13:21] <kitche> Subdolus: yes and no you would have to use aoss or pulseaudio to get sound from both of them
[13:21] <Jcb-> Bodsda, hdd size and ram?
[13:21] <quatar> (in particular, i want that: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/ladspa-plugin )
[13:21] <jin__> what file to look in /pro to get the memory usage?
[13:21] <Pici> quatar: You need to pick the real package that provides that.
[13:21] <Jcb-> Zelda yes
[13:21] <zttr> how can i set my cd drive on auto? it doesn't start the cd unless i do a reboot... :( (mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist)
[13:21] <quatar> uh ok
[13:21] <Zelda> is there an overburn option?
[13:21] <Bodsda> Jcb-, not too sure but lets say, 40GB and 128mb
[13:21] <buggix> hi, I want to reinstall grub after an vista-installation (with this howto: http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_linux_is_already_installed.htm?page=6). I'm in the terminal and I've typed grub and then root (hd0,0). after typing setup (hd0) I get an error: file not found... pls help me.
[13:22] <Pici> jin__: meminfo
[13:22] <miaviator278> Kartagis: try the alsa reload command
[13:22] <aremay> !giver
[13:22] <Jcb-> No, nor is it needed a 4.4g video will hold 8hrs of video. I am burning a 703MB avi (or mpeg I have both) 1h53m long.
[13:22] <aremay> guys, is giver available for hardy
[13:22] <Zelda> hm.
[13:23] <Bodsda> !info giver
[13:23] <Bodsda> aremay, yes
[13:23] <aremay> thanks bodsda
[13:23] <Jcb-> Upgrade the ram to 256 and do a very minimal install. I recommend blackbox over gnome too.
[13:23] <Pici> aremay: No. Only for intrepid+
[13:23] <aremay> but, its for intrepid only :(
[13:23] <Subdolus> Is there a way to use more than one OSS sound mixed program at once? For example, Skype and a movie at the same time?
[13:23] <Pici> !who
[13:23] <Kartagis> miaviator278, that loaded the module again
[13:23] <Bodsda> aremay, you may have to use the intrepid repos if its not in hardy's
[13:23] <Bodsda> Jcb-, ram upgrade not an option, im skint so is he
[13:24] <Zelda> yeah dont get intrepid. Im having too many issues with it.
[13:24] <kitche> Subdolus: I already answered your question
[13:24] <aremay> bodsda: is it possible
[13:24] <drkop> hey ppl is it ok install likewise in chroot ?
[13:24] <Bodsda> aremay, it might work, id recommend upgrading to intrepid though
[13:24] <Jcb-> Bodsda, run pc-bsd with a large swap then.
[13:24] <miaviator278> Kartagis: try /etc/init.d/alsa unload
[13:24] <Bodsda> Jcb-, ok, cheers
[13:24] <Jcb-> Or ubuntu 8.0.4 with a min install.
[13:24] <carpii> whats different about ubuntu server compared to desktop? just the lack of a full window manager?
[13:24] <Subdolus> kitche: Ah. I missed it. What's the best out of those two options to try with Ubuntu?
[13:25] <Jcb-> No problem
[13:25] <Zelda> --agree with Jcb. use 8.04
[13:25] <aremay> bodsda : my agp not working well with intrepid eventhough i had installed the correct driver
[13:25] <Jcb-> Carpii, configuration and X doesn't come standard.
[13:25] <Bodsda> Jcb-, i think il do ubuntu 8.10 min + flux + large swap
[13:25] <carpii> do they use the same repositories? ie, could a server be made equivalent to desktop just by installing certain packages?
[13:25] <exo_stryder> hey mates
[13:26] <kitche> Subdolus: most likely have pulseaudio but myself I never touched pulseaudio, see aoss is OSS that goes though ALSA so that you can use more then one program at a time that is OSS only
[13:26] <Bodsda> aremay, ah, ok -- you can try using the intrepid repo's but it is not guaranteed to work
[13:26] <Jcb-> Hm why not 8.0.4 and cvsup the new kernel?
[13:26] <Jcb-> Carpii, yes.
[13:26] <carpii> great, thanks Jcb
[13:26] <aremay> bodsda : thanks
[13:26] <Subdolus> kitche: I think I already have that
[13:26] <Subdolus> AOSS
[13:26] <Bodsda> carpii, ubuntu server is basically minimal desktop + lamp
[13:27] <zttr> anyone know how to mount a cd drive under ubuntu?
[13:27] <Bodsda> aremay, your welcome
[13:27] <Jcb-> No problem Carpii.
[13:27] <kitche> Subdolus: you also have pulseaudio as well
[13:27] <Subdolus> kitche: Actually, I definitely do
[13:27] <Zelda> does ubuntu have a dosemulator?
[13:27] <Jcb-> Zttr, man mount
[13:27] <Zelda> DOSEmulator*
[13:27] <axisys> Bodsda: w/o the lamp unless u choose that during install
[13:27] <ranok> Zelda: dosbox
[13:27] <tiyowan> Zelda: Dosbox
[13:27] <Subdolus> Hmmm.. Well I can't figure it out
[13:27] <carpii> bodsda, thanks too, thats what im looking for really. Just for a vmware I could later upgrade if I needed X etc
[13:27] <Zelda> thansk
[13:27] <Zelda> er thanks
[13:27] <Bodsda> carpii, yeah :)
[13:28] <CaptainMorgan> !mount | zttr
[13:28] <exo_stryder> if i got the right channel, while making a new partition on one of my usb hard drives i had a power loss. now i can't mount the hdd. does anyone know what to do?
[13:28] <gizmo> is it normal to d/l movie using bittorent in 12hrs?
[13:28] <CaptainMorgan> gizmo, depends
[13:28] <Bodsda> axisys, server would be pretty pointless without lamp
[13:28] <CaptainMorgan> gizmo, seeders, tracker, size
[13:28] <zttr> !fstab
[13:28] <kitche> exo_stryder: probably have to remake all of the partitions on the said drive
[13:28] <tiyowan> gizmo: Depends on your connection, in addition to the health of the torrent.
[13:28] <Bodsda> exo_stryder, use gparted to wipe it
[13:29] <gizmo> CaptainMorgan, thats mean normal..its mean success d/l..?
[13:29] <rnd-1> mylisto : what do you want exactly ??
[13:29] <Zelda> heres one, are there tutorials on how to setup a software raid array?
[13:29] <axisys> Bodsda: well I am saying to install server lamp does not get installed automatically unless you choose it
[13:29] <exo_stryder> well the problem is that i need the data on it
[13:29] <Jcb-> Gizmo depends on your transfer speed.
[13:29] <Bodsda> axisys, oh, ok :)
[13:29] <Zelda> he's using AOL
[13:29] <CaptainMorgan> gizmo, I've had some torrents that took more than a day, sometimes two
[13:29] <gizmo> Jcb-, means that can be open after d/l?
[13:29] <CaptainMorgan> gizmo, yes, you should be able to open after d/l
[13:29] <Bodsda> Zelda, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Raid
[13:29] <gizmo> CaptainMorgan,  what you d/l?movie?
[13:29] <CaptainMorgan> whatever
[13:30] <Zelda> Bosda: Many thanks
[13:30] <Bodsda> Zelda, how well does ubuntu deal with AOL broadband?
[13:30] <Emilis> how do I mount a sco partition, trying mount -f HTFS /dev/sda4 /mnt but it doesn't work
[13:30] <Jcb-> Gizmo, what kind of connection do you have?
[13:30] <Zelda> er Bodsda
[13:30] <gizmo> CaptainMorgan, mean i can burn to dvd using brasero burn?
[13:30] <Bodsda> Zelda, <Zelda> he's using AOL
[13:30] <gizmo> Jcb-, im using wifi/wireless..
[13:30] <Zelda> Bodsda: Im not using AOL. Im on Cable
[13:30] <CaptainMorgan> gizmo, depends on the file format... but yes should be able to. If not, you may have to use conversion software
[13:31] <Bodsda> Zelda, sorry, thought from that post you knew someone with ubuntu + aol
[13:31] <Jcb-> And what's the connection on the other end of the wifi?
[13:31] <CaptainMorgan> brasero is great
[13:31] <gizmo> ok..
[13:31] <gizmo> conversion software?
[13:31] <CaptainMorgan> gizmo, what type of file is it?
[13:31] <gizmo> wait
[13:31] <Zelda> Bodsda: No, as far as I know AOL in a *hush* MS program
[13:31] <aremay> !info quickstart
[13:32] <gizmo> CaptainMorgan,  dvdripp you mean this?
[13:32] <Jcb-> Ex: I am obviously going to be slower in theory on a 50/20 fios connection than a 1g connection at the office.
[13:32] <Bodsda> Zelda, yeah but im moving back to my mums tomoro and she has AOL, and i ditched windows ages ago :(
[13:32] <zttr> i get the following error message when i try to mount my cd drive:  special device /dev/scd0 does not exist
[13:32] <gizmo> CaptainMorgan,  its axxo-avi <--is it ok?
[13:33] <Zelda> Bodsda: yeah I ditched windows when Vista came out. I've been using Ubuntu since. So im a noob!
[13:33] <Jcb-> Bodsda you don't have to run the aol software just to use aol broadband.
[13:33] <Jcb-> Bodsda, uk?
[13:33] <Bodsda> Jcb-, uk yes, really?
[13:33] <exo_stryder> the only thing i can see in gparted is an empty drive, is there any way t fix it?
[13:33] <gizmo> CaptainMorgan,  avi the file is..is it ok?
[13:33] <gizmo> or anyone can help me?
[13:34] <aremay> what is it gizmo?
[13:34] <Bodsda> exo_stryder, right click on your device in gparted and format as fat# (which ever file system you want)
[13:34] <gizmo> i d/l movie with avi file..can be burn to dvd cd?
[13:34] <Jcb-> Carphone warhouse owns AOL UK, it's just rebranded AOL. You'll be fine, you'll just get routed through ATDN for anything outside the UK.
[13:34] <jussi01> !info devede | gizmo
[13:35] <Bodsda> Jcb-, ok, cool cheers
[13:35] <aremay> in dvd format?
[13:35] <Zelda> well ladies and gentlemen, the shower is calling and work around the corner. I appreciate the help today. I'll see you all around soon (after work)
[13:35] <Jcb-> The company I work for, owns AOL Australia so I know what they do.
[13:35] <Jcb-> Np.
[13:35] <gizmo> im mean in dvd/cd burning
[13:35] <gizmo> can?
[13:35] <krishnan> \join #phpbb
[13:35] <jussi01> gizmo: thats what devede does...
[13:36] <exo_stryder> @Bodsda thanks but i m quite 'addicted' to the data on it is there a way to get the partitions back?
[13:36] <kerik> hey guys
[13:36] <Bodsda> exo_stryder, oh... erm, im not sure, i think there is some disaster recovery software but i dont recall the names
[13:36] <kerik> I could use a little help regarding a Geforce 6600go gfx card...any experts here?
[13:37] <jussi01> !ask | kerik
[13:37] <memfis> Hi, I'm having a nightmare getting wpa to work with an old orinoco minipci card. I've tried going through the ubuntu wireless wiki. Tried orinoco drivers from sourceforge which wont compile & tried using wpa_supplicant with ubuntu provided hermes or orinoco drivers. Does anyone have expirience in using wpa_supplicant or ndis drivers who could point me in the right direction?
[13:37] <memfis> I know it's possible without recompiling the kernel, I just don't know how.
[13:38] <kerik> I need help regarding a geforce 6600go that won't work properly...
[13:38] <exo_stryder> thanks a lot i'll search for one ;)
[13:38] <jussi01> !elaborate | kerik
[13:38] <tiyowan> kerik: Did your problem get fixed yesterday?
[13:39] <kerik> jussi01: throw me a bone man...it won't work...
[13:39] <kerik> tiyowan: hey...no not really....
[13:39] <jussi01> kerik: you havent told me how it doesnt work, is it a bad resolution, nothing on screen, what have you done etc?
[13:39] <kerik> I have installed the driver but it doesn't seem to use it nomatter what I do...
[13:39] <bullgard4> http://linux.die.net/man/1/pulseaudio: "If the PulsAudio binary is marked SUID root, then membership of the calling user in the pulse-rt group decides whether real-time and/or high-priority is enabled." What does 'the PulseAudio binary' mean here? Does it mean the file /usr/bin/pulseaudio?
[13:40] <jussi01> kerik: so it loads with a bad resolution or?
[13:40] <kerik> jussi01: oh...sorry mate...bad resolution. Have installed the driver manually but when I reboot I get the low-res. Moreover it seems as it refuses to use my driver...
[13:41] <kerik> jussi01any ideas?
[13:41] <jussi01> kerik: you manually installed the driver, through synaptic? what happened when you tried the hardware drivers wizard?
[13:42] <kerik> jussi01: I installed the driver using the nVidia guide (from outside X...it told me success but no effect...
[13:42] <Bodsda> if im running, ubuntu + fluxbox, what Desktop environment am i using?
[13:42] <tiyowan> kerik:It'd be helpful too if you mentioned everything you tried yesterday, so we can skip the steps which have already been tried.
[13:43] <jussi01> kerik: did you run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" after installing the driver?
[13:43] <kerik> tiyowan: good point. I ran sudo nvidia-xconfig after installing
[13:44] <jussi01> kerik: so why didnt you use the graphical app in ubuntu? or did you try it and it didnt work?
[13:44] <kerik> jussi01: I tried the "hardware drivers" thing under system --> admin...
[13:45] <kerik> jussi01do you know a way to start over, so I could maybe try the Synaptics...or could I just try as is...?
[13:45] <sander_m> Hello. Can someone help me get my scanner to work? I have an Epson Precision 4490 Photo which has "Complete support" according to sane-project.org. But, Ubuntu doesn't let me use it. `lsusb` sees it, sane-find-scanner sees it, but `scanimage -L` does not. Any ideas?
[13:45] <jussi01> kerik: go back tothe hardware drivers wizard and see ifit says enabled?
[13:45] <jussi01> kerik: sorry, I need to run. talk later
[13:45] <runpain2> God day all
[13:46] <kerik> jussi01: ok...it's not enabled...
[13:46] <Minty95> how do unisntall the omd kernels so that I only have the lmatest showing in the grub startup ?
[13:46] <silv3r_m001> hi there
[13:46] <silv3r_m001> i have a ms-access database
[13:46] <runpain2> How can i use the 56k modem on my computer as a regular phone
[13:46] <kerik> tiyowan: have you got any idea what I could try?
[13:46] <silv3r_m001> how can i open it in opeoffice base
[13:46] <mungustas> hello! does any one now, how to use lftp thru socks5 proxy (ssh) ?
[13:46] <runpain2> what software i need in Ubuntu
[13:47] <Jcb-> Runpain, easiest method?
[13:47] <tiyowan> kerik: Well, I tried to fix a similar problem earlier with thebloggu, but I failed unfortunately. I'm searching on the forums, because this type of problem is really getting to me.
[13:48] <runpain2> yes a way to dail the number than talk to the other person using my computer
[13:48] <Jcb-> Runpain just run asterisk.
[13:48] <kerik> tiyowan: yeah...I have seen a lot of people asking everywhere...and sometimes it seems as it is just "accidential" when they make it work...
[13:48] <runpain2> hmm where is asterisk
[13:49] <tiyowan> kerik: Could you pastebin your /var/log/xorg.0.log file? Let's take a look. I'll try to help you out.
[13:50] <kerik> tiyowan: thanks man...can you tell me how to pastebin it? (I don't even know a site)
[13:50] <runpain2> Jcb-
[13:50] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> www.pastebin.org ?
[13:50] <runpain2> Jcb-I will be downloading it
[13:50] <Subdolus> kitche: This is impossible! Running the movie player and VoIP client using aoss doesn't help or change anything
[13:51] <tiyowan> kerik: paste.ubuntu.com
[13:51] <gizmo> what the command to check my RAM and free hardisk?
[13:51] <rebel_kid> kerik, pastebin.com paste.ubuntu.com pastey.com pastebin.ca pick your favorite lol
[13:51] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> free for ram
[13:51] <Jcb-> Runpain, asterisk.org iirc.
[13:51] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> df for hdd.
[13:51] <thebloggu> tiyowan, i have good news :) i was able to choose my monitor and resolution using gksu displayconfig-gtk
[13:51] <kerik> tiyowan: hate to ask, but can you tell me why it can't seem to open the file in gedit?
[13:52] <gizmo> what the command to check my RAM and free hardisk?
[13:52] <gizmo> what the command to check my RAM and free hardisk on my terminal?
[13:52] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> gizmo, shut up and read whats being typed.
[13:52] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> i've already told you.
[13:52] <gmathews> gizmo: as CoUrPsE|DeAd said 'free' and 'df'
[13:52] <tiyowan> thebloggu: Excellent! :) Everything is fine now visually?
[13:52]  * CoUrPsE|DeAd glares at repeaters.
[13:52] <gizmo> ok..
[13:52] <thebloggu> tiyowan, but the image is somewhat blur, and even though nvidia logo appears on login, in nvidia-settings it says is not using nvidia driver
[13:52] <Jcb-> meminfo && du, should work
[13:52] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> I prob should of put that a bit better mind you... ahh well.
[13:53] <thebloggu> tiyowan, the blur maybe from the monitor..
[13:53] <tiyowan> thbloggu: Blurring eh? Maybe you could try a different refresh rate?
[13:53] <kerik> tiyowan: of course - Xorg is with capital X ;)
[13:53] <sander_m> I have just edited /etc/sane.d/epson2 to add my scanner. How can I now restart sane so that it fids it?
[13:53] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> service sane restart ?
[13:53] <tiyowan> kerik: Hehehe. Yes.
[13:54] <thebloggu> tiyowan, and cmompiz is activated so it must be using nvidia driver
[13:54] <gmathews> is there an Nfo viewer for Ubuntu?
[13:54] <kerik> tiyowan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/91595/
[13:54] <thebloggu> tiyowan, compiz*
[13:54] <kerik> tiyowan: can I pm you?
[13:54] <zttr> why can't ubuntu find my cdrom drive?
[13:54] <tiyowan> thebloggu: Well, if it says nv in your xorg.conf file, then its using the nvidia drivers.
[13:54] <tiyowan> kerik: Sure.
[13:54] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> I broke my gfx, :(
[13:54] <gmathews> !nfo
[13:55] <fale> Err http://it.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main myspell-en-us 1:2.4.0-2ubuntu4
[13:55] <fale>   403 Forbidden [IP: 193.206.140.37 80]
[13:55] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> i cant get my dual head working, but it i've only just got the pc to boot at all tonight, so aint gunna play with anything atm.
[13:56] <sander_m> CoUrPsE|DeAd: I'm loggen in through my father's PC through ssh. Any way to restart sane from the cli?
[13:56] <Mageiriki-me-bas>  gr.irc.gr
[13:56] <gizmo> how to check partition?
[13:56] <Wiseblood> Hmmm I have a question and I have searched around for a good 15 mins and cant seem to find an answer i understand. Can someone help me? it relates to Ubuntu i686 support for livedisc.
[13:56] <Jcb-> Anyone have further adivse to my earlier question?
[13:56] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> sander_m, sudo service sane restart
[13:56] <fale> it seems the italian ubuntu archive is broken
[13:56] <Jcb-> Sander, just 'restart'
[13:57] <Jcb-> Restart gives it a sane restart.
[13:57] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> oh, my bad.
[13:58] <sander_m> CoUrPsE|DeAd: Nope. serbive: command not found
[13:58] <Jcb-> Sander, restart
[13:58] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> sander_m, you typod service anyway, but listen to Jcb-.
[13:59] <IdleSanta> why am I getting "aptitude: unrecognized option '--disable-columns'" when running " aptitude --disable-columns --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages "
[13:59] <sander_m> CoUrPsE|DeAd: That was a typo in IRC, not in the cli, but I will do as you suggest
[13:59] <Wiseblood> Well if anyone is still listening, my problem is that I have a nold laptop from a friend and I tried a 8.04 kubuntu sdisc for standard intel processeors but this laptop isnt of the samne arch (lapto. desktop.) so I am looking for a livedisc for a i686 archetecture it doesnt matter what gm it is as long as it is ubuntu and it is a live disc. Can anyone help?
[13:59] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Ahh k.
[14:00] <Jcb-> Sander, restart and start pinging in 300s to re-ssh in.
[14:01] <erUSUL> Wiseblood: the desktop disk should support any 686 processor
[14:01] <Wiseblood> well I put in the Kubunt udisc and it gave me an error stating that I did not have the support
[14:01] <Wiseblood> if you wnat I will restart this thing and give you the error verbatim
[14:02] <erUSUL> Wiseblood: maybe you have the amd64 disk?
[14:02] <Wiseblood> Damn I just freaking realized that that may be the problem.....lololol so many comps lying artound and I NEVER mark that on the discs (arch type)
[14:02] <Wiseblood> thanks
[14:02] <Wiseblood> I am a bonehead
[14:03] <ikonia> Wiseblood: are you using the server install ?
[14:03] <Wiseblood> naw
[14:03] <Wiseblood> disc
[14:03] <krishnan> when i try installing some package on my server running ubuntu 8.04 i get this error "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (100)"
[14:03] <ikonia> Wiseblood: are you using a vmware /vritual machine / vbox install ?
[14:03] <Wiseblood> :(
[14:03] <Wiseblood> no I am not
[14:04] <A[D]minS^Work> how i can delete all files except files which created last 2 days!
[14:04] <Wiseblood> I greatly appreciate that though I am an idiot
[14:04] <ikonia>  A[D]minS^Work find -m time
[14:04] <ikonia> -mtime sorry
[14:04] <IdleSanta> why am I getting "aptitude: unrecognized option '--disable-columns'" when running " aptitude --disable-columns --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages "
[14:04] <bakarat_> can nautilus mount webdav folders? if not, is there an easy way to do this?
[14:04] <ikonia> bakarat_: should be able to
[14:04] <ikonia> bakarat_: the places -> connect to menu sure can
[14:05] <bakarat_> ikonia, ok, will have a look, thanks :)
[14:05] <kitche> IdleSanta: maybe because it does not understand the --disable-columns option like it says
[14:05] <IdleSanta> kitche, the command comes directly from the !clone factoid
[14:06] <bakarat_> ikonia, any idea if it also works with https? (it's giving me a vague error atm)
[14:06] <ikonia> bakarat_: not sure, don't see why not
[14:08] <wiildchild> anybody know how i can delete a file instead of put in in the trash in other parition of system ?
[14:09] <DIFH-iceroot> wiildchild: rm
[14:10] <nightmareshadow> could i get some help
[14:10] <Leefmc> nightmareshadow: Ask your question, don't ask to ask :)
[14:11] <Bodsda> nightmareshadow, if you state your problem, you will prob get help
[14:11] <erUSUL> wiildchild: shift + supr ?
[14:11] <devedse> does someone know how to make xubuntu never safe its session (the thing at when you click the logoff button: save session for next login or so)
[14:11] <wiildchild> i wanna try
[14:12] <nightmareshadow> alright i am trying to install something but i cant find it in the terminal to do what the install instructions say
[14:13] <LTL> nightmareshadow: how did you get it, where did you put it?  type- ls -l to see a directory list of non-hidden files.
[14:14] <nightmareshadow> download desktop and ill try
[14:15] <Bodsda> nightmareshadow, can you link us to the instructions you have, and tell us which section your having problems with
[14:15] <mungustas> hello! does any one now, how to use lftp thru socks5 proxy (ssh) ?
[14:15] <nightmareshadow> new to ubuntu and irc how would i do that
[14:15] <Bodsda> nightmareshadow, you said you had instructions, are these on a website?
[14:15] <tulimaq> nightmareshadow, pastebin.com
[14:16] <LTL> nightmareshadow: try this from terminal: ls Desktop/  does it list the file
[14:17] <nightmareshadow> it says no such file or directory
[14:17] <LTL> nightmareshadow: case-sensitive 'l' = 'L' not 1.
[14:17] <eth01> got the ar5007eg - anybody know anything about it?
[14:18] <LTL> nightmareshadow: type pwd does it say /home/your-username  ?
[14:18] <nightmareshadow> yes
[14:18] <bakarat_> my gdm has rebooted twice today in mid-work, syslog seems to point at lost interrupts that lead to a gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0
[14:18] <bakarat_> any ideas?
[14:19] <LTL> nightmareshadow: does ls show the file
[14:20] <LTL> nightmareshadow: minimize your windows, do you see it on your desktop
[14:21] <medik> gedit question.  I'm using gedit on enlightenment (e17) and when I switch desktops, gedit is on all desktops.  I'd like to stop this behaviour - anyone know how?
[14:23] <SpinachHead> =-O
[14:23] <LTL> bakarat_: thats kinda weird. no idea.
[14:23] <bakarat_> LTL, and incredibly annoying :|
[14:24] <jim_p> can i install frostwire on linux?
[14:24] <LTL> bakarat_: i can certainly believe that.
[14:24] <myk_robinson> hey guys. My Evolution is not sending smtp emails today. I can ping the smtp server with no trouble, but Evolution just sits there. Any ideas? If it matters, I live in Tennessee, today I am in California. The server is smtp.1and1.com
[14:24] <LTL> jim_p: i don't know if its in the repo's but i would say yes.
[14:25] <jim_p> LTL, thanks. i am looking for file sharing apps to convert a friend to linux
[14:25] <jussi01> myk_robinson: some isps block port 25
[14:25] <myk_robinson> the ISP is Comcast.
[14:25] <myk_robinson> jussi01: is there a way for me to determine if the path is being blocked? The ISP is Comcast
[14:26] <LTL> myk_robinson: comcast is notorious for blocking ports, is your smtp account setup properly, if your not homed on your home domain there could be issues.
[14:26] <bio45> guys who can help me with pokerth
[14:26] <bio45> ?
[14:27] <myk_robinson> LTL: is there a way in evolution for me to specify the port? I have another port I can use for smtop
[14:27] <bio45> i am rus
[14:27] <myk_robinson> LTL: this same setup works fine at home and from several other places
[14:27] <LTL> myk_robinson: in accounts, edit, sending mail
[14:27] <hwilde> hey everybody.  is there any way to see more timestamps about a file than ls -al  ?
[14:27] <c0p3rn11> shouldnt the geforce 6200 be supported ? (error: http://share.ovi.com/media/c0p3rn1c.public/c0p3rn1c.10108)
[14:27] <c0p3rn11> in intrepid
[14:28] <hwilde> somebody copied an old file over mine so the timestamp is 2008-09-30.  but I would liek to know when it was copied over the old file if possible
[14:28] <myk_robinson> LTL: no port setting is showing. I am googling it ow
[14:28] <Arrick> can anyone tell me how to get the ubuntu version of xchat to show the users on the right like the windows version does?
[14:28] <hwilde> Arrick, just drag the right bar over a bit there should be a UserList
[14:28] <myk_robinson> LTL: looks like you just add it after the server with a colon. For example  smtp.host.com:587
[14:29] <myk_robinson> I will try another port and see what happens
[14:29] <magnetron> Arrick→ ctrl+f7
[14:29] <hwilde> Arrick, otherwise,  Settings- > Preferences -> UserList ->  Show on Upper Right
[14:29] <Arrick> magnetron: it doesnt do anything here
[14:29] <myk_robinson> LTL: why would an ISP block a common email port?
[14:29] <hwilde> myk_robinson, so you have to use their server
[14:29] <magnetron> Arrick→ there's an option in the menu
[14:29] <themohd> hi guys
[14:30] <LTL> myk_robinson: try it without the colon and port number
[14:30] <Arrick> im looking for it, not seeing it
[14:30] <magnetron> Arrick→ it's there
[14:30] <hwilde> myk_robinson, that is pretty common for mail ports to be messed with;  maybe not blocked but filter or run through a spam filter
[14:30] <themohd> HI
[14:30] <nkei0> Hello, does anyone here know if kmuddy works in gnome?
[14:30] <myk_robinson> LTL: that is the way I have it now. I want to try now to use port 587. I assume it defaults to 25
[14:30] <LTL> myk_robinson: try it without the colon and port number, and try SSL encryption.
[14:30] <nightmareshadow>  yes i see the file on my desktop
[14:30] <hwilde> nkei0, it should, go ahead and try
[14:31] <nkei0> hwilde: Thanks.
[14:31] <jerre> shouldnt the geforce 6200 be supported in ubuntu intrepid? (error: http://share.ovi.com/media/c0p3rn1c.public/c0p3rn1c.10108)
[14:31] <themohd> plz, can any one tell me how to read arabic text files on xubuntu?
[14:31] <myk_robinson> LTL: i dont think it supports SSL. Here's the info from my webhost for email    http://faq.1and1.com/e_mail/setting_up_email_clients_like_ms_outlook_outlook_express_and_netscape_mail_/1.html
[14:31] <myk_robinson> LTL: I got "Connection Refused" when i tried SSL
[14:32] <LTL> nightmareshadow: you in a terminal still, type cd Desktop [hit enter]
[14:32] <LTL> myk_robinson: use just the smtp server, the port is default.
[14:32] <myk_robinson> LTL: it worked using port 587
[14:32] <themohd> plz, can any one tell me how to read arabic text files on xubuntu?
[14:32] <LTL> myk_robinson: ask comcast
[14:32] <myk_robinson> LTL: I guess Comcast is blocking or filtering port 25.
[14:33] <jerre> themohd: did you install the arabic ?
[14:33] <hwilde> hey everybody.  is there any way to see more timestamps about a file than ls -al  ?
[14:33] <hwilde> somebody copied an old file over mine so the timestamp is 2008-09-30.  but I would liek to know when it was copied over the old file if possible
[14:33] <myk_robinson> LTL: I am just visiting family for 5 days, so this will be over soon anyway. But looks like port 587 is working
[14:33] <themohd> yes
[14:33] <mungustas> hello! does any one now, how to use lftp thru socks5 proxy (ssh) ?
[14:33] <The_Joe_> After formatting a disk in GParted how do I mount it again?
[14:33] <jerre> themohd: sorry I donno then
[14:33] <themohd> ok
[14:33] <myk_robinson> LTL: just sent another one, it went out fine as well. I will just leave it at port 587, i guess. Thanks!
[14:34] <themohd> thnx anyway
[14:34] <LTL> nightmareshadow: type mv the-filename .. [hit enter]
[14:35] <Arrick> magnetron: the only option I find is to hit ctrl+u and it brings up a seperate window, then goes away when you click.
[14:35] <hwilde> Arrick, pretend like the user list is there but minimized and drag it open
[14:35] <nightmareshadow> mv: missing destination file operand after `mc-4.6.1'
[14:35] <nightmareshadow> and its a folder if that matters
[14:36] <LTL> nightmareshadow: type mv the-filename .. [hit enter] the two dots are needed.
[14:36] <nkei0> hwilde: Just in case you wanted to know, no, kmuddy does not work in gnome.
[14:36] <The_Joe_> Anyone? No one?
[14:36] <nkei0> hwilde: Unless of course there is something that I'm missing
[14:36] <jpjacobs> The_Joe_, tried mount?
[14:36] <The_Joe_> jpjacobs, Yes
[14:36] <magnetron> Arrick→ look... just look in the menu. you *DID* install xchat from the via the regular ubuntu method, right?
[14:36] <hwilde> nkei0, what'd you do apt-get install kmuddy?
[14:36] <The_Joe_> Just tells me it can't find it
[14:36] <jpjacobs> so what 's the problem with it?
[14:36] <nightmareshadow> mv: cannot stat `mc-4.6.1': No such file or directory
[14:36] <Arrick> yes magnetron and it is NOT there
[14:37] <The_Joe_> jpjacobs, It won't mount
[14:37] <nkei0> hwilde: No, I downloaded the source and tried to compile/install that way.
[14:37] <Arrick> I've looked at EVERY option under there
[14:37] <hwilde> Arrick, Settings-> Preferences -> User List -> Show on Right
[14:37] <jpjacobs> The_Joe_, you already made a filesystem on the newly made partition did you?
[14:37] <The_Joe_> It probably would after a reboot but I really can't be bothered waiting if it turns out there's a 30 second option
[14:37] <The_Joe_> jpjacobs, Yes - ext3
[14:37] <hwilde> nkei0, ok so... is that a package or what ?  I can't find it
[14:37] <Arrick> there is no userlist option in preferences on here hwilde
[14:37] <jim_p> does anyone know what is an smp option on the kernel or smp kernel?
[14:37] <jpjacobs> hmmm weird... error?
[14:37] <hwilde> Arrick, Go to Help About what version?
[14:37] <The_Joe_> jpjacobs, No error
[14:37] <Arrick> heck there isnt even a settings, its under edit
[14:38] <hwilde> Arrick, you are not using the right version.
[14:38] <nkei0> hwilde: No, I had to download it from their official website.  They do make .deb packages, but I figured compiling from source would be the best way to do it.
[14:38] <jpjacobs> erm... so it's mounted i guess
[14:38] <hwilde> nkei0, no, get the .deb package!
[14:38] <jpjacobs> The_Joe_, tried looking in the autput of mount,
[14:38] <hwilde> Arrick, Go to Help About what version?
[14:38] <ghaleb_> hello, I'm trying to configure libnss-ldap to authenticate via ldap, I apt-get install libnss-ldap but can't find /etc/libnss-ldap.conf !!
[14:38] <Arrick> hwilde: i installed it using the ubuntu synaptic package manager
[14:38] <Arrick> one sec
[14:38] <jpjacobs> (i mean mount without options)
[14:38] <hwilde> Arrick, Go to Help About what version?
[14:38] <The_Joe_> jpjacobs, Want it pastebinning?
[14:38] <hwilde> !pastebin
[14:38] <nkei0> hwilde: Why would one want to use .deb package over source?
[14:38] <LTL> nightmareshadow: are you trying to install mc midnight commander?
[14:38] <Arrick> xchat-gnome 0.24.1
[14:38] <Arrick> hwilde: ^
[14:39] <hwilde> nkei0, because the .deb package will install right.
[14:39] <jpjacobs> The_Joe_, ok
[14:39] <hwilde> Arrick, it should say xchat 2.8.4 atleast.
[14:39] <nightmareshadow> yes
[14:39] <eth01> sudo to save a file when giving permission error?
[14:39] <nkei0> hwilde: heh, okay i'll give it a try
[14:39] <The_Joe_> jpjacobs, Ok - give me a se
[14:39] <The_Joe_> c
[14:39] <magnetron> Arrick→ oh, you are not using x-chat!!!
[14:39] <LTL> nightmareshadow: type sudo apt-get install mc
[14:39] <Arrick> hwilde: then it must be something I have to dl from another source seperatly.
[14:39] <hwilde> Arrick, exit that program, go to Applications, Internet,  XChat IRC
[14:39] <Arrick> thats what i did to get here hwilde
[14:39] <magnetron> hwilde→ he's not using xchat.
[14:39] <eth01> i can't save a file? something about permissions.
[14:40] <hwilde> magnetron, all yours then
[14:40] <hwilde> eth01, sudo.
[14:40] <Arrick> one sec, i think I installed the wrong version lol, brb
[14:40] <hwilde> Arrick, open a terminal type  "which xchat"
[14:40] <nightmareshadow> thank you
[14:40] <eth01> it can't find sudo?
[14:40] <magnetron> Arrick→ you're using xchat-gnome, not xchat. they are very different.
[14:40] <The_Joe_> jpjacobs, http://paste2.org/p/119945
[14:40] <The_Joe_> I don't see it there
[14:40] <Arrick> yeah, I just remembered magnetron
[14:40] <Arrick> lol
[14:40] <The_Joe_> jpjacobs, I only see my master HD
[14:41] <LTL> eth01: save it to your home dir, /home/your-user-name
[14:41] <eth01> working now (my fault)
[14:41] <jpjacobs> The_Joe_, could be you should reboot in order to have the kernel see a newly made partition...
[14:42] <The_Joe_> jpjacobs, Oh ok, thanks
[14:42] <hwilde> jpjacobs, no reboot it not necessary really
[14:42] <hwilde> you just have to mount the new partition
[14:42] <ksbalaji> Can I have a sliding control for hue, brightness, contrast etc like an audio-volume control? If there is one, which application please?
[14:43] <runpain2> Jcb- i still dont know how to use asterisk
[14:43] <nkei0> hwilde: Hmm, that's weird, why does the .deb package work and not compiling from source...
[14:43] <Prabz> HI, I just now installed Ubuntu 8.10 on my frnd's laptop.. after a few restarts, it's giving an improper shutdown message, and isn't starting. Fsck dies with error code 4.. and asking for manual fsck. what can be done??
[14:43] <nightmareshadow> and thats it for mc?
[14:43] <Arrick> thanks magnetron and hwilde for helping me figure out what i messed up
[14:44] <magnetron> Arrick→ you're welcome
[14:44] <LTL> nightmareshadow: thats it, now type mc in a terminal
[14:44] <jpjacobs> hwilde, had to do it sometime.. then fdisk told me to reboot to have the kernel load the new partition table...
[14:44] <hwilde> nkei0, the .deb package was made to work in ubuntu
[14:45] <hwilde> jpjacobs, eh won't hurt
[14:45] <nkei0> hwilde: Ah, thanks.
[14:45] <n8tuser> Prabz -> does it kick you to login in single user mode? if not -- use the livecd to boot and fsck the faulty boot partition
[14:45] <nkei0> hwilde: Do you use kmuddy yourself?
[14:46] <Prabz> n8tuser, it's exactly like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=574174
[14:46] <Arrick> I'll tell you the #1 thing I DONT like about the newest version of ubuntu..... Why the heck is it AUTOMATICALLY mounting my ntfs partitions r/w ?
[14:46] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> or could try pressing esc while loading grub, and choose kernel (recovery)
[14:46] <runpain2> How can i use my modem as a telephone from my computer
[14:46] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> I had to do that tonight to fdsk my hdd.
[14:46] <spdz2> What is the difference between creating a primary and an extended partition?
[14:46] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> runpain2, Didnt someone already tell you?
[14:46] <Prabz> n8tuser, it does ask me to login into maintainence. as root
[14:47] <runpain2> cant figure it out
[14:47] <magnetron> spdz2→ BIOS limits the number of primary partitions to 4
[14:47] <nightmareshadow> mc is run through the terminal?
[14:47] <LTL> Arrick: install ntfs-config and tell it not to, unless its already installed, skip the install
[14:47] <LTL> nightmareshadow: thats correct
[14:47] <ksbalaji> I have volume control in my panel. Similarly, can I have a sliding controls for hue, brightness and contrast please? Some websites make it very necessary!
[14:47] <tiyowan> Arrick: Storage Device Manager || editing /etc/fstab should get rid of that.
[14:47] <spdz2> Seeing as I wish the second partition to be a data partition, would it make more sense to have it as an extended partition?
[14:48] <runpain2> CoUrPsE|DeAd cant figure it out
[14:48] <LTL> nightmareshadow: i think you would prefer nautilus
[14:48] <nightmareshadow> which is?
[14:48] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Ahh right.
[14:48] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> did you google it? or man it?
[14:48] <runpain2> got astrick installed but cant find it
[14:48] <LTL> nightmareshadow: nautilus is a graphical file manager.
[14:49] <nightmareshadow> ok
[14:49] <kitche> runpain2: what asterisk command does not work?
[14:49] <armok> testing this Xchat thing, how do I get to the WorldIRC server even?
[14:49] <kitche> runpain2: well wait you mean astrick?
[14:50] <krishnan> iam not able to install forum in my site. can anyone help me?
[14:50] <nightmareshadow> part of the problem is awhile ago i made a .rar file encryped it then lost the password and i would really like to open that file
[14:50] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> runpain2, locate astrick ?
[14:50] <guillaume_> bonjour
[14:51] <bazhang> !fr | guillaume_
[14:52] <krishnan> iam not able to install anything on my server. pls help me
[14:53] <Pici> !ask | krishnan
[14:53] <Pici> krishnan: Please elaborate.
[14:53] <livre1> hi all
[14:53] <robile> hey, if i change the "print size" of an image in GIMP -> then print the picture -> its still the same size. what do i do wrong? :/
[14:53] <VeXocide> I have screwed up my screen configuration using the ati control panel, does anyone know how to reset it ?
[14:53] <livre1> anyone can help me to route my 3g connection with a wireless router?
[14:53] <kerik> ut
[14:53] <kerik> hey
[14:54] <livre1> the 3g is in my machine and the router i plug in the ethernet port
[14:54] <krishnan> Pici: when i try to install any package i get this error "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (100)"
[14:54] <livre1> but is not routed
[14:54] <livre1> or routing
[14:54] <gizmo> i want to make 2 os..window and ubuntu..how to do that?
[14:55] <DRebellion> !dualboot | gizmo
[14:55] <Runithard> gizmo: Dual boot.
[14:55] <tiyowan> kerik: How it did go? Compiz running? Type "glxinfo | grep direct". Do you see direct rendering enabled?
[14:55] <gizmo> but now my os is ubuntu..
[14:55] <gizmo> i want window also.
[14:55] <n8tuser> livre1 -> can you make that a longer sentence, do not use enter as punctuation,  its not clear what is not working
[14:55] <Runithard> gizmo:  VirtualBox
[14:55] <Runithard> gizmo: run windows in a VM
[14:55] <ksbalaji> Like volume control in the panel, can I have a sliding controls for hue, brightness etc please? Websites make it necessary! -request repeated after 15 minutes.
[14:55] <gizmo> but my os is still ubuntu
[14:55] <quinn> gizmo:fix grub after you install ubuntu
[14:56] <ardchoille> tiyowan: direct rendering doesn't mean 3d acceleration will work
[14:56] <quinn> gizmo: fix grub after you install  windows
[14:56] <bazhang> gizmo, do you have a windows install disk or have you installed windows on that computer
[14:56] <gizmo> bazhang before im using window..
[14:56] <gizmo> now im using ubuntu..
[14:57] <bazhang> gizmo, please answer my question
[14:57] <Linuxrevolution> hi all
[14:57] <gizmo> bazhang, yesh i have installed window
[14:57] <Linuxrevolution> A question about screenlets
[14:57] <bazhang> gizmo, then fix grub
[14:57] <gizmo> but now im not using it..im using ubuntu os
[14:57] <bazhang> !grub | gizmo
[14:57] <Runithard> gizmo = troll
[14:57] <krishnan> Pici: please answer my query
[14:58] <Pici> krishnan: Have you had any other problems with the computer bresides that? i.e: shutting it down without running shutdown?
[14:58] <gizmo> i mean im now using ubuntu..how to add window in my other os?
[14:59] <bazhang> gizmo, listen the answers people are giving you. install windows then restore grub following the link I gave you
[14:59] <krishnan> Pici no other problem. Recently i was not able to install a forum for my site, i was just tweaking it and by mistake i deleted the dpkg file inside /usr/bin/. i replaced it again with same file from another server. but still it is not working.
[14:59] <gizmo> so i need to reformat again
[15:00] <bazhang> gizmo, read the link
[15:00] <Linuxrevolution> guys how to lock screen lets in desktop that when press show desktop, screen lets stay there without minimizing?
[15:00] <Pici> krishnan: Try   sudo apt-get install -f
[15:01] <ksbalaji> sorry to repeat - after 5 minutes. Like volume control in the panel, can I have controls for hue, brightness etc please? Websites make it necessary!
[15:01] <krishnan> Pici: I am getting the same error
[15:02] <Linuxrevolution> any idea?
[15:02] <krishnan> Pici: my server is very critical and i cant reinstall the entire O.S
[15:02] <vallhalla81> hey there all and merry christmas, I have a quick question could someone please tell me what do i type to find out what mother bord i have thank you
[15:02] <LTL> ksbalaji: have you tried the controls on your monitor?
[15:03] <ksbalaji> LTL, I have been operating those and I fear that the buttons may soon fall off!
[15:03] <Terabyte> hey,
[15:03] <Pici> krishnan: Wait. You deleted /usr/bin/dpkg ?
[15:04] <Terabyte> docx files, is there a program to read them on linux?
[15:04] <dante123> hi all,  I installed ubuntu on a friend's computer (Dual boot with WIndows XP).  The windows side got messed up (virus etc.) and he wants me to reinstall windows for some apps that he must have for work etc.  However, if I reinstall windows in the first partition......it will wipe out the boot menu (grub) so how do I fix that after reinstalling windows?
[15:04] <Linuxrevolution> vallhalla81: sudo dmidecode | more
[15:04] <LTL> ksbalaji: your monitor may be going south, dying slow.
[15:04] <Kartagis> where can i find alsa backport?
[15:04] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub dante123
[15:05] <vallhalla81> Linuxrevolution: thank you
[15:05] <dante123> bazhang thanks!
[15:05] <Linuxrevolution> vallhalla81: np
[15:05] <ksbalaji> LTL, I sit for 6 hours before the monitor each day and now-a-days, I need easy controls for brightness etc.
[15:05] <krishnan> Pici: yes i deleted that file
[15:05] <Linuxrevolution> guys how to lock screen lets in desktop that when press show desktop, screen lets stay there without minimizing?
[15:07] <ksbalaji> LTL, not that the monitor is dying, but my eyes - perhaps. I find some websites very annoyingly bright. I want an easy way to control this.
[15:07] <LTL> ksbalaji: I don't know of any software controls for the monitor brightness hue etc.
[15:07] <Terabyte> docx files, is there a program to read them on linux? the online converters don't work.
[15:07] <Pici> krishnan: Thats not good. Were you getting this error before you delted that?
[15:07] <LTL> ksbalaji: you might try a different theme, right click on your desktop
[15:08] <kitche> Terabyte: openoffice.org-3 among other office apps
[15:08] <Terabyte> brilliant
[15:08] <somedude> how can i set my monitor 1900x1080
[15:08] <krishnan> Pici: no i was not getting this error before i deleted this file. I am getting it since i deleted tht file.
[15:08] <Terabyte> thanks
[15:08] <ksbalaji> LTL, that's a good idea. - the theme. And God! let someone find some SW cntrols before many eyes close.
[15:09] <LTL> ksbalaji: you can change font size there also
[15:09] <mon^rch> there is a chmod command for me to own all my files so nobody cant browse my home dir... what is it again?
[15:10] <LTL> mon^rch: chmod 700 will do that
[15:10] <btse> chown -R you: ~
[15:10] <btse> chmod 0700 ~
[15:10] <ksbalaji> thanks anyway LTL , I waited long enough to get any response and yours was the only one.- Font size? I use FF - mouse control to change size.
[15:10] <krishnan> Pici: what now? worst case i can reinstall my server?
[15:10] <LTL> ksbalaji: welcome
[15:11] <Pici> krishnan: Let me see if I can come up with a solution. Give me a few monites.
[15:11] <Pici> krishnan: *minutes* (sorry, can't type today)
[15:12] <Kartagis> where can i find alsa backport?
[15:13] <MrWehadababyitsa> hey
[15:13] <Linuxrevolution> problem about screenlets
[15:14] <LTL> Kartagis: enable backports in synaptic may be the easiest way.
[15:14] <MrWehadababyitsa> I want to build a livecd with "linux live scripts" and I wonder if someone could let me know if the standard install will install all the modules and scripts to detect hardware etc that the ubuntu liveCD has?
[15:14] <Kartagis> LTL, then how do I use *that*?
[15:15] <Pici> krishnan: This is a bit of a reach, but it *should* work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/91647/
[15:15] <jaw> Hi all.
[15:16] <Kartagis> what I want to do is upgrade alsa
[15:16] <MrWehadababyitsa> actually, (asking to be beet up here but) does the gentoo livecd still have better hardware support than ubuntu? anyone know?
[15:16] <LTL> Kartagis: click system - administration - synaptic package manager, repositories, updates, enable backports
[15:16] <jaw> Who has ever encountered the following?  Ubuntu Intrepid & Evolution.  Trying to connect to exchange server.  Evolution asks for the password over and over, and then says Outlook is offline. Ideas?
[15:17] <ortsvorsteher> jaw: yes, try to delete your key.
[15:17] <gizmo> how to install sshd?
[15:18] <MrWehadababyitsa> gizmo sudo apt-get install ssh
[15:18] <LTL> Kartagis: you'll only get the version the repositories have.
[15:18] <jaw> to Gizmo..
[15:18] <jaw> # sudo apt-get install openssh-server openssh-client
[15:18] <Kartagis> LTL, backports is enabled
[15:18] <MrWehadababyitsa> jaw ssh package gone?
[15:19] <jaw> gone?
[15:19] <LTL> Kartagis: update and upgrade is all you can do, other than compiling from source, which i don't recommend.
[15:19] <MrWehadababyitsa> ssh always installed openssh client and server. not anymore?
[15:19] <jaw> Dunno...
[15:19] <jaw> But is you don't have it.. that will install it
[15:19] <LTL> MrWehadababyitsa: openssh-server installs both iirc
[15:19] <Pici> MrWehadababyitsa: 'ssh' is a metapackage that depends on  openssh-server openssh-client
[15:20] <krishnan> Pici: I am trying that will get back to you once it gets finished
[15:20] <jaw> I "think" some dumbed down desktop version don't install the daemon
[15:20] <MrWehadababyitsa> thanks
[15:20] <jaw> welcome
[15:20] <MrWehadababyitsa> :)
[15:20] <Hideme> Evolution appears to check my mail, but really it's not.   Does it log connection attempts, if so where?
[15:20] <Terabyte> hey, i have an ipod nano, is there anyway to transfer music onto it using linux?
[15:20] <Neaai> jaw: the standard desktop install doesn't install the ssh server
[15:20] <jaw> close evolution
[15:20] <jaw> then run it from the terminal
[15:21] <Neaai> jaw: I've had to add it myself after initial install.
[15:21] <jaw> it should show you what happens
[15:21] <jaw> Has anyone here got Evolution working with Exchange...?
[15:21] <badserii> Hi! I have a question. When I run iftop, I see a lot of connections to the port 53 (domain) from different hosts. Now, when I run 'netstat -atp' I see no service listening to this port. I wrote a rule 'iptables -I INPUT 1 -p udp --dport 53 -j DROP', but I continue to see traffic to this port with iftop. I did a tcpdump for this port, it captured lots of packets. Is that possible? Thank you in advance!
[15:22] <LTL> jaw: it probably is, but check the plugins to enable it.
[15:22] <Hideme> jaw  with "evolution" as the command?
[15:22] <ikonia> badserii sure is
[15:22] <ortsvorsteher> jaw: i have run evolution, connected to an exchange box
[15:22] <badserii> ikonia: how to avoid this?
[15:22] <jaw> plugin is enabled..
[15:23] <jaw> problem is... it keeps asking for the password over and over... won't save it
[15:23] <jaw> workmate has it working perfectly with the same exchange server
[15:23] <Hideme> I've had that password issue before.
[15:23] <jaw> Do you recall how it was fixed?
[15:23] <vasoq> is there a way to make an account have no shell but still log in?
[15:23] <kitche> badserii: are you sure it
[15:24] <kitche> badserii: are you sure it's connectins to you and your not sending the connections out when yuo visit a website?
[15:24] <jaw> hmm
[15:24] <badserii> kitche: I'm not visiting any site
[15:24] <frostburn> badserii, port 53 is used for DNS
[15:24] <vallhalla81> do ati cards run ok on ubuntu?
[15:25] <jaw> Has anyone else noticed that the clipboard empties when you close an app?  For example,, if you copy text in firefox, close it and then try to paste the text.. it is gone
[15:25] <LTL> vallhalla81: some do, some dont
[15:25] <nettezzaumana> hi all
[15:25] <jaw> bug?
[15:25] <ardchoille> !ati | vallhalla81
[15:25] <Hideme> Evolution appears to check my mail, but really it's not (started happening after it lost passwords for no reason).   Does it log connection attempts, if so where?
[15:25] <badserii> frostburn: yes. but it should be port 53 on the remote, dns server, not on my machine.
[15:25] <hateball> jaw⚘ it's the way it *works*. You can try installing glipper or klipper
[15:25] <nettezzaumana> can be sorted packages using dpkg*/apt* by time installation/removal ??
[15:25] <Hangwire> Can anyone help me with my MP3 player problem? All the files show up as Read only, but yesterday it worked perfectly!
[15:25] <kitche> badserii: yes on your machine
[15:26] <vallhalla81> excelent thank you
[15:26] <LTL> badserii: run chkrootkit
[15:26] <Pici> nettezzaumana: You'll have to look in /var/log/dpkg.log
[15:26] <frostburn> badserii, are you on a public IP or a local network?
[15:26] <Hangwire> Can anyone help me with my MP3 player problem? All the files show up as Read only, but yesterday it worked perfectly!
[15:26] <Neaai> jaw: I've noticed that. I think it has to do with the fact that there exist 2 clipboards. one is the X clipboard, the other is the application clipboard.
[15:26] <klync> Hangwire: by mp3 player, you mean a usb device? i'm guessing it's the mount options in /etc/fstab
[15:26] <Hangwire> klync: yes, its a USB device. what do i edit there? Whats fstab?
[15:26] <klync> anyone here using amanda? wondering what uid would be best to use for an ubuntu client... the already existing "backup" user?
[15:26] <Hangwire> !fstab
[15:26] <kerik> Hey again
[15:27] <nettezzaumana> Pici: thanks .. i reached this just 5 seconds after asked question
[15:27] <Terabyte> hey
[15:27] <Terabyte> ubuntu 7.04, deb or rpm?
[15:27] <nettezzaumana> Pici: solved by that .. have a nice xmas buddy ;)
[15:27] <JonathanEllis> Hi. I have tried to change the ownership of a partition using sudo chown jonathan: /media/sparedisk but when I type ls -l /media the partition shows as being owned by root. Any ideas?
[15:27] <kerik> tiyowan, hey
[15:27] <Hangwire> klync: how do i Access it? its not a folder?
[15:27] <ikonia> JonathanEllis is it a fat 32 partition ?
[15:28] <Neaai> JonathanEllis: I suppose it's a ntfs partition ?
[15:28] <JonathanEllis> ikonia: Its ntfs
[15:28] <tiyowan> kerik: Hey mate. What's the situation now?
[15:28] <_cb> Need to edit xconf in ubuntu but think I need to do it with a sudo command. How do I do it?
[15:28] <Hangwire> klync: how do i Access it? its not a folder?
[15:28] <ikonia> JonathanEllis: arey ou %100 sure it's not fat 32 ?
[15:28] <Pici> Terabyte: 7.04 is no longer supported. It has reached its End of Life.
[15:28] <LTL> JonathanEllis: chown jonathan:jonathan /path
[15:28] <Pici> !eol > Terabyte
[15:28] <badserii> frostburn: it's a public IP
[15:28] <Terabyte> yes, but deb or rmp?
[15:28] <krishnan> Pici: I am getting this wen i execute the 3rd line http://paste.ubuntu.com/91653/
[15:28] <klync> Hangwire: there may be graphical tools for this, but i'm a cli guy, myself... if you're unsure how to edit a file in /etc, i can't be of much help
[15:28] <kerik> tiyowan, BAD...
[15:28] <JonathanEllis> ikonia: Definitely sure its ntfs. I only just formatted it
[15:28] <Terabyte> rpm*
[15:28] <frostburn> badserii, expect plenty of background radiation =p
[15:28] <Pici> krishnan: ah: dpkg-deb -x dpkg*.deb dpkg
[15:29] <tiyowan> kerik: Uh-oh. What happened?
[15:29] <Hangwire> klync: i can edit a file, ill just sudo it. But what do i edit?
[15:29] <Neaai> JonathanEllis: you can't change the ownership like that to what I know. ownership as you know it in linux is an ext3 feature of the filesystem that does not apply in ntfs.
[15:29] <Flynsarmy> Hwo do you modify stuff that runs on startup? i turned something off and now i can't find the startup stuff to enable it again
[15:29] <LTL> JonathanEllis: use ntfs-config
[15:29] <Hangwire> klync: i can edit a file, ill just sudo it. But what do i edit?
[15:29] <klync> Hangwire: it may be an entry called /dev/uba or /dev/hda
[15:29] <klync> Hangwire: i mean, sda
[15:29] <klync> also, i can hear you the first time - no need to repeat everything twice
[15:30] <Pici> Flynsarmy: You can use 'bum' (bootup manager)
[15:30] <krishnan> Pici: it is not at all working
[15:30] <ikonia> JonathanEllis make sure it's a.) not mounted read only b.) it's mounted with user options
[15:30] <Pici> krishnan: Can you specify the actual name of the dpkg-something.deb file instead?
[15:30] <badserii> frostburn: It's a fresh install! And it should be blocked by iptables
[15:30] <estagio> Hi
[15:31] <estagio> alguem portugues?
[15:31] <Pici> !pt | estagio
[15:31] <bazhang> #ubuntu-br estagio
[15:31] <estagio> #ubuntu-br
[15:31] <Neaai> Pici: can't krishnan look at the /var/cache/apt/archives/   for his dpkg.deb file and get the missing file from there?
[15:31] <Flynsarmy> Pici, do you know how i can get the bluetooth icon back in my system tray? I'm not sure if its running on my laptop anyumore or not
[15:32] <Pici> Flynsarmy: I really don't know anything about bluetooth, sorry.
[15:32] <krishnan>  
[15:32] <Pici> Neaai: He may, but it may not be there.  Hes already downloaded the .deb, we just need the binary now.
[15:33] <tiyowan> ikonia: Hi. Do you have some time on your hands at the moment?
[15:33] <ikonia> tiyowan a little, what's up ?
[15:33] <Neaai> krishnan: do you have a gui, or just commandline ?
[15:33] <klync> Hangwire: i've never connected a usb drive on ubuntu - now that i look at my fstab, i'm guessing that's the wrong place. currently looking in /etc/udev/rules.d/ for an apropriate line
[15:33] <klync> Hangwire: i've never connected a usb drive on ubuntu - now that i look at my fstab, i'm guessing that's the wrong place. currently looking in /etc/udev/rules.d/ for an apropriate line
[15:33] <JonathanEllis> ikonia, ltl and Neaai: Thanks. Should have remembered ntfs doesnt have the flexibility of ext3! Anyway, actually I dont need to take ownership of it as all I want to do is copy some files onto it. I just forgot that I wouldnt need to do that step - it seems I have spent enough time away from windows stuff to forget its limitations :-)
[15:34] <Hangwire> klync: okay, let me know.
[15:34] <ikonia> JonathanEllis: at least your working
[15:34] <tiyowan> ikonia: More of the same. nvidia problems. kerik's running a nvidia 6600 card. Stuck on low resolution.
[15:34] <klync> basically, i'm looking for an entry which will create the device node when the player is plugged in, and what the permissions on the node will be
[15:34] <ikonia> tiyowan: well, pass on the detals and lets take a look
[15:35] <krishnan> Neaai: i have a command line
[15:35] <JonathanEllis> ikonia, LTL, Neaai: Files are copying as we speak. I need it to be ntfs as I also need to take some files off a windows machine with that disk
[15:35] <kerik> ikonia, thanks :)
[15:35] <klync> Hangwire: can you try doing `df`, then plugging the device in, then doing `df` again to see which new device is listed?
[15:35] <jerre> I'm getting low-graphics mode on my supposed to be supported geforce 6200 : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1006352 (dunno why it's marked as solved btw)
[15:36] <Hangwire> klync: okay, just a second.
[15:36] <tiyowan> ikonia: Roger. Here's his xorg log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/91595/, his xorg, http://paste.ubuntu.com/91598/plain/.
[15:36] <klync> Hangwire: then, look for that device in /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules and change the option for it so that the permissions are 0660
[15:36] <frostburn> badserii, i don't think there's any rules on by default,  I've never really checked since I don't have ubuntu on any public ips
[15:36] <klync> Hangwire: ... and make sure you're in the group that owns the device
[15:37] <master31> hi, this server is only in english? or I can speak others languages?
[15:37] <ikonia> tiyowantiyowan the driver is nv - thats a pretty good start of a problem, and wheere did all the modeline stuff come from ?
[15:37] <Hangwire> klync: ill do these things, its just, yesterday it worked fine, how come it doesnt today?
[15:37] <polatouche_et_co> Hi, I need help on a OpenGL related problem. Someone ready to help?
[15:37] <bazhang> master31, #ubuntu-es for espanol
[15:37] <Neaai> krishnan: well, dpkg-deb -x  filename.deb  /directory/to/extract/  should do what you need. I think Pici already told you that.
[15:37] <klync> Hangwire: no idea
[15:37] <master31> thanks
[15:37] <master31> bazhang
[15:37] <tiyowan> ikonia: He's running 8.04. H/W drivers shows nvidia drivers in use but not enabled. He tried installing the drivers manually from nvidia as well. Right now he's getting an interlaced screen. Don't know about the modeline, someone made him edit his xorg.conf yesterday.
[15:37] <Hangwire> klync: computers, i guess.
[15:38] <ikonia> tiyowan well, if he's started messing around with drivers from nvidia.com instead of working through the other problems his modules setup and libc interface is going to be screwed
[15:38] <klync> Hangwire: yup .... they're not logical - that's a common misconception
[15:38] <klync> :P
[15:38] <_cb> I just installed 8.10. How can I force it to do updates?
[15:38] <kerik> tiyowan, well...it should be the original conf file...though nVidia has changed in it...
[15:38] <jpjacobs> _cb : dist-upgrade
[15:38] <bazhang> _cb no need to force
[15:38] <ikonia> kerik nvidia doesn't change it
[15:38] <ikonia> kerik: what really changed ?
[15:39] <tiyowan> ikonia: sudo dpkg -l | grep nvidia  @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/91603/, nvidia installer log at http://paste.ubuntu.com/91620/, dmesg @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/91633/
[15:39] <Hideme> Evolution appears to check my mail, it receives from a few accounts, but none under a specific ISP. Started happening after it lost passwords for no reason, I see the pop connection attempt, no errors.   Does it log connection attempts, if so where?
[15:39] <kerik> ikonia, I dont know but the nvidia setup told me that it made changes...
[15:39] <ikonia> tiyowan mega so all 3 installed
[15:39] <ikonia> kerik what nvidia setup ?
[15:39] <ikonia> tiyowan thats a real mess
[15:39] <tim167> hello,i am trying to use vncviewer, the computer i want to connect to has the same name as mine (it's an pc running an image of my laptop) so vncviewer connects my laptop to itself, what can I do ?
[15:39] <ikonia> kerik what is "nvidia-installer" ?
[15:39] <Hangwire> klync: believe it or not, when i plug it in after DF, it works perfectly.
[15:40] <klync> Hangwire: :^/
[15:40] <dr_willis> tim167 connect via ip # not hostname
[15:40] <Hangwire> klync: oh wait, too soon to be happy. it just says its read only now.
[15:40] <kerik> ikonia, I downloaded a driver from nvidia.com and followed instructions on how to install..manually from outside X
[15:40] <ikonia> kerik why ?
[15:40] <klync> Hangwire: my mp3 player also has a "lock" position... could that be it?
[15:40] <tiyowan> ikonia: I know. The only command he used is sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.82-pkg1.run to install nvidia drivers I think. nvidia-installer is the one that comes with that. The log file is from it as well.
[15:40] <ikonia> kerik why do you also have 3 nvidia driver packags installed on your system
[15:40] <tim167> dr_willis: ok i can try that, can you give an example command  ?
[15:41] <ikonia> kerik: your nvidia setup is in a real mess
[15:41] <Hangwire> klync: its just a sang 1 gb mp3 player bought for like 15 dollars, i dont thing theres something on it like that
[15:41] <dr_willis> tim167:  vncviewer ip:port
[15:41] <kerik> ikonia, you think? ;)
[15:41] <ikonia> kerik: if I was you I would re-install ubuntu and work through the driver setup properly wihtout going to places like nvidia.com
[15:41] <JonathanEllis> ﻿ikonia, LTL, Neaai: Thanks and Happy Christmas!
[15:41] <tim167> dr_willis: ok thanks, trying now...
[15:41] <ikonia> kerik: at the moment you will have 3 sets of nvidia modules from ubuntu and 1 from nvuidia.com all with libc interfaces
[15:42] <Neaai> JonathanEllis: you're welcome. merry x-mass for you too
[15:42] <Fritten> How do I format an external hard disc with Fat32?
[15:42] <kerik> ikonia, ok...how about when I reinstall? it will still fail to find my monitor and I will have the same issues...but will I be able to fix it by then?
[15:42] <Hideme> Evolution appears to check my mail, it receives from a few accounts, but none under a specific ISP. Started happening after it lost passwords for no reason, I see the pop connection attempt, no errors.   Does it log, if so where?
[15:42] <tim167> hm i get vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused, any idea ?
[15:43] <tiyowan> kerik: We could take a crack at fixing that. :)
[15:43] <Jack_Sparrow> kerik I just got my 6600 working under intrepid
[15:43] <Hangwire> Fritten: with partition editor, sudo apt-get install gparted or something, then plug it in and right click the drive - format
[15:43] <ASULutzy> tim167: So the ip address you are trying to connect to doesn't currently have a vncserver?
[15:43] <CntryTousrTrout> Gnea: U around ?
[15:43] <kerik> tiyowan, ikonia I will now format the disc and start over...I'll get back to you ASAP :)
[15:44] <tiyowan> ikonia: Do you think uninstalling the drivers from nvidia.com is going to rollback the changes properly? Or are the dependencies fubar'ed completed?
[15:44] <Fritten> Thanks
[15:44] <kerik> tiyowan, doesn't really matter...I think its faster the hard way around..
[15:44] <tim167> ASULutzy: hm apparently it was a wrong port number, although i set 'use alternative port', but it stayed 0, now it works, i hope it will also work if i try it from home later today...
[15:44] <tiyowan> kerik: Ok. You reinstall, mate. *Don't* do anything with any drivers. Come online and we'll work then.
[15:44] <Hangwire> klync: i cant find the Drive in rules.d, theres no sdb in 40-permissions rules
[15:45] <kerik> tiyowan, thanks mate!
[15:45] <ikonia> tiyowan they are quite awkward to un-install more so when they conflict with ubuntu's packaged versions
[15:45] <tiyowan> Jack_Sparrow: Care to share some details on the 6600?
[15:45] <ikonia> kerik: get a fresh install and we'll work it through
[15:45] <ikonia> kerik: tehre are two of ubuntus driver packages that will work with your card
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> tiyowan fresh install.. - enabled the older of the restricted drivers
[15:45] <tiyowan> ikonia: Thanks. :)
[15:46] <klync> Hangwire: are you a member of the group "plugdev"? is that the group that owns /dev/sdb?
[15:46] <Hangwire> klync: how can i check that?
[15:46] <ASULutzy> Hangwire: type groups in a terminal
[15:46] <CntryTousrTrout> tiyowan: can u tell me why my xchat has no options to it? all I have is the chat windows no preference nothing.
[15:46] <Hangwire> ASULutzy: thanks.
[15:46] <tiyowan> Jack_Sparrow: Could you provide a link to a resource? When you installed, initially did you boot to safe mode?
[15:46] <kerik> ikonia, thanks :)
[15:46] <Mallen2008> Looking for help with Emerald Theme Manager, have it installed, but cant apply any themes.
[15:46] <klync> Hangwire: ls -l /dev/sdb ; groups
[15:46] <kitche> CntryTousrTrout: are you using xchat or xchat-gnome two different programs
[15:47] <caeroe> is there anything i can do to improve fullscreen flash video?  8.10 x64, i tried the alpha 10 drivers and the one from synaptic.  connection and pc are both fast enough (i dual boot and it's fine)
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> tiyowan then sudo nvidia-xconfig
[15:47] <CntryTousrTrout> kitche: how can I tell
[15:47] <saivin> hi is there anybody who uses JWM?
[15:47] <kitche> CntryTousrTrout: by the version number most likely since xchat-gnome is not the same version as normal xchat
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> tiyowan Didnt use a resource..  It was trial and errors..
[15:47] <Hangwire> klync: well yes, my account "nick" is there
[15:47] <saivin> I have problem with audio and video in JWM...
[15:47] <CntryTousrTrout> kitche: I see nothing about versions. all I c is this chat window
[15:47] <tiyowan> Jack_Sparrow: Did X detect your display properly when it booted first time?
[15:47] <LTL> CntryTousrTrout: click help/about
[15:47] <CntryTousrTrout> kitche: no options at all
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> tiyowan Yes, I had kernel panics and safe mode and all of that until I did it this way
[15:48] <CntryTousrTrout> ltl: I dont have a help or about
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> tiyowan not at all..
[15:48] <klync> Hangwire: can you pm me the results of those two commands?
[15:48] <Hangwire> klync: groups and the one you gave me?
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> tiyowan I was stuck in 800x600
[15:48] <Mehdi> Has the new notification system been rolled out in Ubuntu yet?
[15:48] <kitche> CntryTousrTrout: then your using xchat-gnome install xchat if you want xchat
[15:48] <klync> Hangwire: ya
[15:48] <CntryTousrTrout> kitche: did xchat come with gnome? if so can I uninstall it and install the real deal?
[15:49] <LTL> CntryTousrTrout: ps aux in a terminal should show which, look for xchat in your menu, use that. not xchat-gnome
[15:49] <tiyowan> Jack_Sparrow: Could you provide some details on which driver you enabled and how? Thanks! I think we could get kerik fixed up with this.
[15:49] <LTL> CntryTousrTrout: yes you can install plain old xchat
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> tiyowan Yes, I know, I worked with him on it yesterday and got nowhere
[15:49] <Hideme> Evolution appears to check my mail, it receives from a few accounts, but none under a specific ISP. Started happening after it lost passwords for no reason, I see the pop connection attempt, no errors.   Does it log, if so where?
[15:49] <CntryTousrTrout> ltl: sudo apt-get install remove xchat?
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> tiyowan Let me pastebin my notes from the other pc
[15:50] <tiyowan> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks a million.
[15:50] <Hangwire> klync: done, sent.
[15:50] <klync> Hangwire: whatever udev rule creates the device, its group is "disk", so add yourself to the disk group and when you login again, you will have write access
[15:50] <Fritten> Hangwire: Cheers, that's the simplest partition program I've ever used
[15:50] <LTL> CntryTousrTrout: no don't remove, try dpkg -s xchat  what does it say
[15:50] <CntryTousrTrout> ltl: that command brings this line:  6193  1.0  0.8  46556 24320 ?        Sl   10:40   0:05 xchat
[15:50] <Hangwire> Fritten: No problem, glad to see you did what you wanted.
[15:50] <Hangwire> klync: okay, lets see if it will work
[15:51] <LTL> CntryTousrTrout: apt-get xchat-common
[15:51] <klync> anyone here using amanda? wondering what uid would be best to use for an ubuntu client... the already existing "backup" user?
[15:51] <CntryTousrTrout> ltl: that last command brought up a lot of stuff about xchat not sure what though ok let me apt get the common
[15:52] <LTL> CntryTousrTrout: it should be in your apps/internet menu
[15:53] <elementz> what should be the permissions for the tmp folder?
[15:53] <kerik> tiyowan, formatting as we speak...
[15:53] <kerik> tiyowan, installing..
[15:53] <CntryTousrTrout> ltl: that did nothing, but what I already had.. xchat-common is already the newest version.
[15:53] <CntryTousrTrout> xchat-common set to manually installed.
[15:53] <Hangwire> klync: System - Administration - Users and groups - There is no group disk
[15:53] <CntryTousrTrout> ltl: it was already in my internet list
[15:53] <LTL> elementz: octal format 1777 the 1 is the sticky bit
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> tiyowan one sec...  pastebin.com/d1e388ecd  installing xchat on that other box atm
[15:54] <LTL> CntryTousrTrout: try running that xchat
[15:54] <CntryTousrTrout> ltl: I did, same as this one. Im not even sure if it installed a new one it said already had newest
[15:54] <Yoyoto> Hey Uhmm I'm wondering how to get a projector to work using the vga thingy
[15:54] <gizmo> can anyone help me..if i want to burn dvd what file i need to put on brasero ?
[15:55] <rinsmaster> gizmo, what file do you have?
[15:55] <kerik> tiyowan, I gotta reboot this machine as welll...see you in a bit..
[15:55] <Hangwire> klync: System - Administration - Users and groups - There is no group disk
[15:55] <LTL> CntryTousrTrout: i don't know any xchat hotkeys let me look
[15:55] <rinsmaster> gizmo, a folder like video_ts or an mpg or ...?
[15:55] <gizmo> avi..
[15:55] <dlozarie> hi guys.. need some help with XAMPP.
[15:55] <gizmo> i mean all file in one folder put at the brasero?
[15:55] <rinsmaster> gizmo, then todiscgui would work fine, google for it
[15:55] <ASULutzy> !ask | dlozarie
[15:56] <LTL> CntryTousrTrout: try ctrl+F9
[15:56] <Halitech> gizmo, you will need to convert it if you want it to play in a stand alone dvd player
[15:56] <jack-smirnoff> tiyowan: http://pastebin.com/d1e388ecd
[15:56] <tiyowan> kerik: Roger.
[15:56] <Yoyoto> Hey Uhmm I'm wondering how to get a projector to work using the vga thingy
[15:56] <Anirban1987> How to define the login name in useradd syntax ?
[15:56] <CntryTousrTrout> ok that worked, that gave me the menu ect.
[15:56] <mon^rch> omg
[15:56] <CntryTousrTrout> ltl: thanks
[15:56] <ASULutzy> Yoyoto: You should just be able to plug it in and go to system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[15:56] <LTL> CntryTousrTrout: you're welcome
[15:56] <CntryTousrTrout> ltl: I could have disabled it using compiz commands :)
[15:56] <tiyowan> jack-smirnoff: Thanks.
[15:56] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[15:57] <LTL> CntryTousrTrout: thats a possibility
[15:57] <CntryTousrTrout> ltl: now do you know where I can get a script that says my os, and system info for irc xchat?
[15:57] <dlozarie> so I installed XAMPP on Linux with Alien and did chown username -r /opt/lampp so i could copy files there. after that, when i tried to access http://localhost/phpmyadmin I got the error "chown cpanel.cpanel config.inc.php", so how do I give everyone read perms to that file/directory?
[15:57] <Anirban1987> How to define the login name in useradd syntax ?
[15:57] <Yoyoto> ASULutzy is it Shp
[15:57] <LTL> CntryTousrTrout: not off hand i don't, try xchat.org if it exists
[15:57] <Mallen> Can anyone help with Emerald, I have it installed need help activating
[15:58] <CntryTousrTrout> ltl: k thx
[15:58] <Hangwire> klync: System - Administration - Users and groups - There is no group disk
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !xampp
[15:58] <ASULutzy> dlozarie: Why did you use alien? Why not just download the tarball and extract it to /opt/lampp, that's the whole point
[15:58] <LTL> CntryTousrTrout: not off hand i don't, try http://xchat.org
[15:58] <Halitech> dlozarie, why not just install apache2, php and mysql from the repos?
[15:58] <dlozarie> ASULutzy in retrospect, I should've done that, but looks like Alien worked just as well
[15:58] <Pici> dlozarie: We do not support XAMPP here. Even less so that you've used Alien to install it.  Please use the LAMP stack that is in the repositories.
[15:58] <Pici> !lamp > dlozarie
[15:59] <ASULutzy> Pici: What's wrong with xampp? It's nice and simple
[15:59] <LTL> dlozarie: syntax is chown user:group /path/  -R for recursive
[15:59] <dlozarie> so I should remove XAMPP and install LAMP :-?
[15:59] <Pici> ASULutzy: And completely third party.
[16:00] <ASULutzy> Pici: Well, the question was more a general Linux/Ubuntu help me, than a "please support my xampp install" question ;)
[16:01] <dlozarie> just so I can try it out, can anyone give me the code to enter into the terminal to give me read permissions to the /opt/lampp directory? :D
[16:01] <LTL> CntryTousrTrout: um, /ctcp nick version does most of what you wanted
[16:01] <svat> are there software for recording other than Audacity?
[16:01] <JuleTecki> Hi there, i have this dmesg http://www.swiatechs.com/dmesg4.txt, and my boot stops at the end of the file, any one know why?
[16:01] <tim167> hello, when using TightVNC viewer, the cursor is a dot, can it be changed to normal? because i need to see some state changes in a program, which are indicated only by the mouse cursor shape. thanks!
[16:02] <nascentmind> hi. ubuntu crashes when I shutdown. How can i get the crash logs?
[16:02] <tiyowan> JuleTecki: That link is not found. :)
[16:03] <tiyowan> nascentmind: System -> Admin. -> System Logs
[16:03] <JuleTecki> tiyowan: sure? it works fine here?
[16:04] <JuleTecki>  http://www.swiatechs.com/dmesg4.txt
[16:04] <vasoq> does anyone know a good proxy server?  all it must do is limit the sites a user can visit to a couple
[16:04] <nDevastator> can anyone tell me what the name of the default user is for mysql
[16:04] <tiyowan> JuleTecki: Works now.
[16:04] <nDevastator> nvm
[16:05] <techsuperfreak> vasog: check out squid and dan's guardian
[16:05] <tiyowan> JuleTecki: The first link had a , at the end. :)
[16:05] <vasoq> thanks
[16:05] <JuleTecki> tiyowan: ah ;)
[16:06] <yoyoto_> Sooo I have this issue right, I got the projector working, but the video won't play!
[16:06] <yoyoto_> oh hey I'm a ghost
[16:06] <yoyoto_> BOOOO
[16:06] <tiyowan> JuleTecki: Are you trying to run intrepid on an intel 915 integrated graphics chip? I think I read something about this in the release notes.
[16:07] <Mallen> Emerald THeme Manager help needed?
[16:07] <villadelfia> Hello, does anyone know the emacs lisp to put in .emacs to make it boot up split screen with an empty buffer on top and a shell on bottom?
[16:08] <yoyoto_> So anyone had this problem before?
[16:09] <JuleTecki> tiyowan: It at gigabyte GA-G31M-S2L
[16:09] <LTL> yoyoto_: are you registered
[16:09] <loller> i`ve removed swfdec-mozilla and installed swfdec-gnome but now i don`t have sound with videos in webs
[16:09] <loller> what can cause this
[16:10] <nascentmind> tiyowan, I was getting a crash near the network interface something regarding netlink drivers with a dump of the stack trace.. i am not able to find it in the logs
[16:10] <yoyoto_> Uhhh nope? you mean to irc? nah I come in here everyother day with a linux related question, yesterdays was best, how do I open a file as root XD
[16:10] <loller> somebody ?
[16:10] <ASULutzy> !patience | loller
[16:10] <tiyowan> JuleTecki: Do you know what video card you have?
[16:10]  * yoyoto_ sighs
[16:11] <LTL> yoyoto_: you'll have to let the ghost nick time/ping out. define 'XD'?
[16:11] <JuleTecki> tiyowan: well it's integrated, i will just google
[16:11] <yoyoto_> LTL a laughing face, anyways
[16:11] <LTL> yoyoto_: whats your fave editor
[16:11] <yoyoto_> script editor?
[16:12] <LTL> yoyoto_: whatever you want to use
[16:13] <yoyoto_> Uhmm notepad?!
[16:13] <LTL> yoyoto_: any text editor does scripts, example in a terminal sudo nano /path/to/file  nano should be installed, vi, emacs, gedit are others
[16:13] <tiyowan> JuleTecki: Can you get into safe mode on the machine by pressing F4 at the boot screen?
[16:13] <villadelfia> so does anyone?
[16:14] <JuleTecki> tiyowan: i can get into the machine by pressing ctrl+alt+del,
[16:14] <JuleTecki> then the boot continues
[16:14] <tiyowan> JuleTecki: And you can get into the GUI from there?
[16:15] <JuleTecki> tiyowan: well its 8.10 server, soo "gui"
[16:15] <tim167> how do i get a computer to connect automatically to a wireless connection when it starts ?
[16:15] <yoyoto_> ok LTL I opened the file in nano
[16:15] <tiyowan> JuleTecki: Hehehe. Ah. I don't know about that. :)
[16:15] <JuleTecki> tiyowan: well its then same?
[16:16] <abchirk> hm is it easy to deinstall pulse and use another soundserver?
[16:16] <ASULutzy> yoyoto_: I think you should restate what your actual problem is
[16:16] <nDevastator> abchirk yes
[16:16] <nDevastator> abchirk mine needed no addition work after the uninstall
[16:16] <yoyoto_> I got the projector working, however VLC will not play the video on the projector, maybe it doesn't like the pink panther?
[16:16] <tiyowan> JuleTecki: No idea, mate. Keep asking. Someone else here may be able to help you out.
[16:17] <abchirk> nDevastator and which soundserver do you used then?
[16:17] <nDevastator> abchirk, ALSA
[16:17] <carpii> ims etting up ubuntu server and its asking me if i want to install OpenSSH server.  Do I need this in order to ssh into the server or is it something else?
[16:17] <Yoyoto> Oh hey my ghost died
[16:17] <abchirk> as server? and alsa can do oss mixing with teamspeak and else?
[16:17] <Halitech> carpediem1, yes
[16:17] <carpii> ok thanks
[16:17] <ASULutzy> yoyoto_: What do you mean by "vlc will not play the video on the projector" what are you doing to try and get it to play on the projector
[16:18] <nDevastator> abchirk, i assume so i have had no problems with it since
[16:18] <Yoyoto> ASULutzy I open the video in VLC and fullscreen it, the projector is on mirrored
[16:18] <abchirk> nDevastator and u are using teamspeak?
[16:19] <Halitech> Yoyoto, do you see anything prior to trying to play the video?
[16:19] <ultimate> sup
[16:19] <Yoyoto> Halitech, I see the video but I don't, it's everything but the actual video, all the play buttons etc.
[16:19] <LTL> carpii: ssh client/server is a must have imho, apt-get install openssh-server it installs client and should run on boot if not immediately
[16:20] <villadelfia> how do you create a shell buffer in emacs lisp?
[16:20] <Halitech> Yoyoto, is it a dvd you are trying to play or a video on your computer?
[16:20] <ultimate> ?
[16:20] <Yoyoto> Halitech, Video on my computer .avi
[16:20] <Yoyoto> Halitech, I see it on my laptop
[16:21] <gleesond_lappy> is there a channel for using ubuntu on an eee pc? I'm having trouble mounting sd cards says something about  invalid volume. I just want to mount the sd card that is in my camera to get the photos off of it
[16:22] <kitche> gleesond_lappy: most likely the eeeubuntu channel since ubuntu doesn't have an official eee distro
[16:22] <Halitech> Yoyoto, maybe its a resolution issue, do you have another video you can try?
[16:22] <Yoyoto> Yeah, I tried 3 videos, youtube works...
[16:22] <Halitech> Yoyoto, maybe try another player
[16:23] <gleesond_lappy> yeah I have regular ubuntu on this thing but I guess I could check out that channel
[16:23] <Yoyoto> I tried 3 players
[16:23] <Yoyoto> Amarok, VLC, and mp or something
[16:23] <Yoyoto> and amarok just did sound LOL
[16:23] <Halitech> Yoyoto, maybe try gxine or xine
[16:23] <gleesond_lappy> maybe the issue is not eee specific
[16:23] <gleesond_lappy> I just want to mount this sd card
[16:24] <ASULutzy> Yoyoto: "Amarok: The audio player for KDE"
[16:24] <techsuperfreak> lappy: what command are you using to mount?
[16:24] <Halitech> gleesond_lappy, whats the output of sudo fdisk -l ?
[16:24] <Halitech> gleesond_lappy, use pastebin to show us
[16:25] <\\`oot> MOrning everyone
[16:25] <alsetcoil> Good morning
[16:25] <gleesond_lappy> techsuperfreak,  I haven't tried a command yet... just the auto mount is failing when I stick the card in
[16:25] <\\`oot> anyone else catch the 007 Marathon on @ Spike TV?
[16:25] <techsuperfreak> lappy:  have you check the dmesg output?
[16:25] <kitche> !offtopic | \\`oot
[16:25] <bazhang> \\`oot, offtopic; please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:25] <gleesond_lappy> what would an sd card show up as in /dev
[16:26] <Halitech> gleesond_lappy, probably /dev/sdX
[16:26] <Halitech> gleesond_lappy, X being a number
[16:26] <\\`oot> Is there some sort of weird bug in the file-browser in 8.10?  The first time I try to open a link (samba share, NTFS mount) from the file browser it throws an error, but then the 2nd time (and after) opens the location just fine
[16:26] <alsetcoil> I was wondering, "How do I transfer files easily between three networked Ubuntu 8.10 computers?"
[16:26] <Halitech> alsetcoil, NFS
[16:26] <alsetcoil> I have enabled sharing on the folders I want to accesss
[16:26] <dr_willis> alsetcoil: ssh, scp, sshfs
[16:26] <alsetcoil> ty
[16:27] <Yoyoto> Halitech, Gxine won't work...
[16:27] <keke> moi
[16:27] <dr_willis> alsetcoil:  no need for samba - on linux to linux machines
[16:27] <gleesond_lappy> sweet it worked
[16:27] <Halitech> Yoyoto, what do you mean it won't work?
[16:27] <gleesond_lappy> thanks guys
[16:27] <Yoyoto> Halitech, same damn problem
[16:27] <Yoyoto> god hates me
[16:28] <nDevastator> ok if i want to make a symlink inside /var/www/ i would do ln -s /therealfolder /thesym
[16:28] <alsetcoil> Dr_Willis: When I go to the network area I do not see the shared folders on any machine
[16:28] <nDevastator> i mean ln -s /therealfolder /var/www/thesym
[16:28] <Sorin39> Romania
[16:28] <nascentmind> When i press the fn+keys(for brightness) my keyboard stops responding in X but works perfectly in the console. How can i fix it?
[16:28] <gnusiva> hi
[16:28] <klync> nDevastator: yes... no need for the 2nd arg if you want the same name... *but*...
[16:28] <ASULutzy> nDevastator: that's right
[16:29] <klync> nDevastator: also, make sure you've allowed apache to follow symlinks, assuming that's what you want
[16:29] <VSpike> What's the best scheme for dual booting 7.10 and 8.04? I have two separate partitions, but how should I set up grub?
[16:29] <nDevastator> tyvm
[16:29] <dr_willis> alsetcoil:   for a linux to linux setup you dont need to use the shares that way. check out scp, or sshfs for easier file transfers
[16:29] <klync> nDevastator: oh, omit the 2nd arg assuming your PWD is where you want the target, that is
[16:29] <nDevastator> VSpike, you would just want to make sure to have a selection for all options in your grub... im not sure if there is a "best scheme" per se
[16:30] <DrHalan> hey i have compiz running on intrepid and every animation of the animation plugin works except the minimize one
[16:30] <DrHalan> what am i doing wron?
[16:30] <VSpike> alsetcoil: not sure if this is relevant but http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/12/19/simple-desktop-file-sharing-with-giver/
[16:30] <VSpike> nDevastator: so create the menu entries manually?
[16:31] <nDevastator> VSpike, yes you can edit your grub @ sudo gedit /boot/grub/menus.lst
[16:31] <sloadface> sup
[16:31] <bazhang> !gskudo
[16:31] <bazhang> oops
[16:31] <alsetcoil> VSpike: thank you I think this will work
[16:31] <bazhang> use gksudo with gui apps nDevastator
[16:32] <nDevastator> oh
[16:32] <somethingorigina> I'm attempting data recovery of an XP system on Raid0. I have installed the alt version of the latest Ubuntu on a seperate HD after the liveCD was unable to let me interact with the RAID. However i cannot get that OS to boot. It gets no further than a black screen with a white flashing cursor in the top left.
[16:32] <nDevastator> VSpike, im sorry it would be sudo nano /boot/grub/menus.lst
[16:32] <VSpike> nDevastator: both will create menu.lst files in their own /boot/grub/ with their own kernels automagically added... but can I have a single menu that is automatically maintained? Or should I chain the second from the first
[16:32] <sloadface> elo
[16:33] <alfatau> hello, i'm looking for a reliable way to detect a dialup connection active. when traffic is high, ping sometimes produces "unknown host" results. i tried pinging both with tos at 0x04 and 0x20 and 0x24, but the trouble rests. I also tried adding some timeout/deadline waiting time, the trouble is less frequent, but rests. isn't there a way to bypass the traffic congestion and give max priority to ic
[16:33] <alfatau> mp packages? thanks
[16:33] <fasta> How can I configure Thunderbird so that I won't get a popup for new messages in some local folder named foo?
[16:33] <nDevastator> VSpike, honestly i typically make a seperate boot partition... you might need to refer to someone else in this situation
[16:33] <VSpike> nDevastator: and how do you stop them both stomping on each other all the time?
[16:33] <VSpike> nDevastator: actually, they are both sharing a separate boot partition at the moment :)
[16:33] <koro> Hi, i'm having trouble with medibutu packages not showing up in synaptic
[16:34] <themohd> HI ALL
[16:34] <VSpike> nDevastator: I was just wondering what the canonical way is.. after all, if you have windows, ubuntu will create a menu entry for it automatically ... so would it not make sense that it would handle additional ubuntu installs somehow?
[16:34] <koro> the repositories work just fine from apt-get, and even from synaptic if i go manually to medibuntu packages i see all packages (e.g. acroread,etc) but if i do a search for "acroread" from synaptic it doesn't show anything
[16:34] <LTL> koro: intrepid disables medibuntu, if that applies to you.
[16:34] <nabsha> Hi, anyone having experience with google earth on ubuntu, it runs slow on my dell inspiron 6400!!!
[16:34] <nDevastator> VSpike, it would seem like that would be the case
[16:35] <kane77> E
[16:35] <nDevastator> VSpike, must admit im by far no guru
[16:35] <themohd> can anybody tell me what is the default pass for root on xubuntu???
[16:35] <kane77> themohd, there is no default password
[16:35] <bazhang> themohd, there isnt one
[16:35] <VSpike> nDevastator: And I think in a vanilla install it does somehow, but I'm not sure how to get back to that position from the slightly odd custom setup I have :)
[16:35] <dr_willis> !root
[16:35] <themohd> how do i set it?
[16:35] <bazhang> themohd, use sudo
[16:35] <themohd> ok , thanks
[16:35] <backgen> hey guys my amsn doesnt seem to be working i think i need to download an update or something but when i click to download it gives me a firefox error
[16:36] <nDevastator> VSpike, when you say they are sharing a boot partition what boot loader is on that partition
[16:36] <backgen> anyone know how to update with Terminal?
[16:36] <dr_willis> learn to use sudo  - no need for a root password
[16:36] <koro> LTL: yes, i'm on intrepid, but what do you mean by "diasble"?
[16:36] <ASULutzy> backgen: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:36] <kane77> themohd, you can set it with sudo passwd
[16:36] <VSpike> nDevastator: grub - with a manually maintained menu.lst
[16:36] <Halitech> backgen, sudo apt-get update
[16:36] <koro> it works just fine, except that it doesn't show stuff from there in the search results
[16:36] <backgen> thats it? no sudo apt-get upgrade amsn?
[16:36] <lianimator> what software can create UML diagrams?
[16:36] <koro> is there a way to re-enable it_
[16:36] <LTL> koro: read/check  the /etc/apt/sources.list the '#' sign disables the entire line/repo
[16:36] <themohd> ok thanks all of you, and good luck
[16:36] <backgen> i mean i dont need to put amsn in there?
[16:36] <VSpike> nDevastator: I disabled the automatic generation of menu items because they both kept nuking each other
[16:36] <ubuntu_> Does anyone know how to pass a right-click to the current program running in a gnome-terminal?
[16:36] <nDevastator> VSpike, okay so do this... whichever ubuntu you installed last... edit that grub to have all necessary options
[16:36] <themohd> bye
[16:37] <VSpike> nDevastator: but when the other one has a kernel update it will overwrite the mbr
[16:37] <somethingorigina> I'm attempting data recovery of an XP system on Raid0. I have installed the alt version of the latest Ubuntu on a seperate HD after the liveCD was unable to let me interact with the RAID. However i cannot get that OS to boot. It gets no further than a black screen with a white flashing cursor in the top left. I'm thinking MBR problem but that's outside my experience to solve
[16:37] <Halitech> backgen, sudo apt-get update first then sudo apt-get install amsn
[16:37] <dimebar> lianimator: umbrello, dia.
[16:37] <koro> LTL: yeah, it's not there, not even commented out
[16:38] <tiyowan> onetinsoldier: Hi mate. :)
[16:38] <koro> but how does apt-get figure it out then_
[16:38] <backgen> Halitech: ok thanks!
[16:38] <lianimator> dimebar: thanks
[16:38] <koro> }and why does it show the packages if i search for them manually
[16:38] <onetinsoldier> tiyowan: howdy :-)
[16:38] <VSpike> nDevastator: I've done it with arch and ubuntu on another system by getting arch to install grub on the partition instead of the mbr and then chaining the second grub from the main ubuntu one that lives in the mbr and ubuntu partition
[16:38] <kane77> lianimator, umbrello, dia, argouml,  and netbeans have also plugin for uml
[16:38] <Halitech> backgen, chances are though you probably already have the latest from the repo
[16:38] <lianimator> kane77: I have netbeans. gotta try that.
[16:39] <nDevastator> VSpike, yes thats what i was saying to do by editting the last installed ubuntu
[16:39] <brainac0cult> hullo
[16:39] <ASULutzy> somethingorigina: So you get to see your grub menu but when you try to boot it fails?
[16:39] <LTL> koro: you need to add it manually if you want it, and its gpg key, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[16:39] <gnusiva> how to install j2se in ubuntu
[16:39] <nDevastator> VSpike edit the grub on that ubuntu partition instead of the MBR
[16:39] <koro> LTL: in synaptic, under "third party repos" i have medibuntu marked, and i already added its gpg key and 
[16:39] <brainac0cult> at least theres ppl on this channel
[16:40] <backgen> Halitech: k well i just did all the commands you told me...it wasn;'t working so i typed in sudo apt-get upgrade amsn and now it's downloading and installing a bunch of stuff
[16:40] <brainac0cult> #ubuntu
[16:40] <backgen> Halitech: i love Terminal :D
[16:40] <kane77> gnusiva, the jre or jdk?
[16:40] <koro> LTL: as i meantioned, i t works fine, particularly from apt-get, but *in synaptic* it doesnt include the packages from medibuntu in search results
[16:40] <somethingorigina> ASULutzy: No not quite that far. It's not a screen that i can interact with. Any key press just elicits a click from the tower
[16:40] <Sentinel83> @ backgen: if you use the upgrade command after apt-get it will upgrade the already installed package of amsn.  You had it installed already correct?
[16:40] <Halitech> backgen, only way to work :)
[16:41] <LTL> koro: does a reload in synaptic show its packages?
[16:41] <backgen> Sentinel83: yup
[16:41] <Sentinel83> k
[16:41] <koro> everything else works fine, it *does* read the medibuntu repository and shows it if i manually look for packages in synaptic
[16:41] <LTL> koro: i'm pretty sure it needs to be in sources.list regardless
[16:42] <koro> LTL: okay, but i ahven found instructions on howhat to add to that file
[16:42] <backgen> hey guys, i want to upgrade my linux from gibbon to hardy...but i'm scared its going to erase everything i've got on here
[16:42] <KST_> Hello Arin
[16:42] <KST_> Hello Arin
[16:42] <Arin> Hi
[16:42] <Arin> Hi
[16:42] <techsuperfreak> koro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[16:42] <Arin> ..ÇÏ¿ÍÀÌ¾ß?
[16:42] <techsuperfreak> there is a link to adding the repos
[16:43] <KST_> That has an error in your result.
[16:43] <koro> techsuperfreak: i did that already, and thatś why it works with apt'get and with synaptic (*except for the search results*)
[16:43] <bazhang> !give me a test
[16:43] <Halitech> backgen, backup everything first, it should go fine but things do happen
[16:43] <bazhang> hi Arin
[16:43] <bazhang> hi KST_
[16:43] <backgen> Halitech: k thanks!
[16:44] <Sylphid|work> I moved the /boot partition on my hard drive and grub is unable to locate the boot images  or its confignow.... how can i change the location that grub looks for its config in the MBR
[16:44] <backgen> Halitech: can i upgrade it via Terminal or do i need boot cd?
[16:44] <Arin> Hi ¤·¤±¤·/
[16:44] <bazhang> !english | Arin
[16:44] <booksbuggy> anyone know how to make a authentication key for a software source?
[16:44] <Arin> a..
[16:44] <KST_> You only can talk to with english here.
[16:45] <mooky> hi
[16:45] <koro> LTL: what i see is the medibuntu repositories in the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list}
[16:45] <Halitech> backgen, you can do it either way but with the cd you will need the alt cd, not the live cd
[16:45] <Guest86155> hi
[16:45] <koro> should i just put the contents of that file in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[16:45] <Halitech> backgen, the benefit of using the cd is you can use it to reinstall if things go haywire on you
[16:45] <Arin> !english | Arin
[16:45] <Arin> ³×..
[16:46] <techsuperfreak> koro:  worth a shot
[16:46] <bazhang> Arin, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[16:46] <dr_willis> or refollow the docs at the medibuntu site
[16:46] <koro> ok i'll try that
[16:46] <Arin>  please wait..
[16:46] <ikonia> KST_: Arin why are you the same users talking to each other ?
[16:47] <Ad_> Download the FREE ISSUE of Hakin9 magazine! We have a Christmas gift for you! The offer is valid till midnight December 23, 2008!
[16:47] <KST_> We are not a bot.
[16:47] <bazhang> KST_, we?
[16:47] <KST_> that reason why is because
[16:48] <ikonia> KST_: then please respond to my pnm
[16:48] <KST_> we are using same irc client program.
[16:48] <ikonia> pm
[16:48] <KST_> like MIRC
[16:48] <booksbuggy> how do i make the authentication key for a source?
[16:48] <bazhang> KST_, do you have an ubuntu support question
[16:48] <somethingorigina> I'm attempting data recovery of an XP system in Raid0. I have installed the alt version of the latest Ubuntu on a seperate HD after the liveCD was unable to let me interact with the RAID. However i cannot get that OS to boot. It gets no further than a black screen with a white flashing cursor in the top left. I'm thinking MBR problem but that's outside my experience to solve
[16:48] <ikonia> somethingorigina not going to happen
[16:49] <LTL> koro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu  try re-doing it
[16:49] <techsuperfreak> origina:  what do you mean won't let you interact?  no raid drivers loaded??
[16:49] <ikonia> KST_: please respond to the message I have sent you
[16:49] <KST_> ikonia> sorry my irc client can not recieve private massages
[16:50] <backgen> Halitech: ok thanks i think i'll make the CD just in gave things blow up in my face...so whats the command prompt to upgrade in Terminal then?
[16:50] <ikonia> KST_: what client are you using
[16:50] <bazhang> !ask | KST_
[16:50] <somethingorigina> I can load the raid drivers however the HD won't actually appear
[16:50] <ikonia> somethingorigina it won't work
[16:50] <conb123> Hi im having some trouble in ubuntu 8.10 my existing installation will no longer boot. I have a really rubbish foxconn motherboard and i think it is having trouble mounting the drive in linux. It mounts fine in windows but in the ubuntu 8.10 live cd it just gives me an error about a bad superblock which i dont understand please can you help me here is the output of a dmesg command if it helps http://pastebin.com/m45253781
[16:50] <KST_> I am using a client which was made by me with C++
[16:51] <bazhang> KST_, do you have a support question for ubuntu
[16:51] <Halitech> backgen, good idea :) sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade I believe
[16:51] <KST_> I have no question about ubuntu
[16:51] <bazhang> KST_, offtopic chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:52] <KST_> ok I got it.
[16:52] <backgen> Halitech: thanks!
[16:52] <jonjoe> is anyone experienced with ccsm??
[16:52] <jonjoe> is anyone experienced with ccsm??
[16:53] <kane77> !anyone | jonjoe
[16:54] <conb123> actually i think this one gives a better understanding of the problem it mentions something about ext2 or ext3 http://pastebin.com/m4e5c7eb7
[16:54] <conb123> my drives just wont mount and i want to do a fresh install
[16:54] <jonjoe> ccsm
[16:55] <jonjoe> ccsm
[16:55] <jonjoe> is anyone experienced with ccsm??
[16:55] <bazhang> jonjoe, need an actual question regarding ccsm
[16:55] <ragu_pattabi> QUESTION: how can I get the source code for a package available in the repository? synaptic/apt-get. I don't want to bother with application's home page. Thanks in advance.
[16:55] <tim167> why do i get 'could not connect to the session manager' ?
[16:55] <nightstalker> Hello
[16:55] <Jack_Sparrow> ragu_pattabi enable source (src) in your repo list
[16:56] <nightstalker> Iss there anyone who knows where I can download "God save the Queen2 instrumental
[16:56] <jonjoe> ccsm cube uses the same desktop over and over again to form a cube i wanan have individual desktops which i can put different icons in and different backgrounds does anyone know how to do this
[16:56] <tim167> how do i add programs to run at startup without having access to session manager ? thanks
[16:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > nightstalker
[16:56] <ragu_pattabi> Jack_Sparrow If I do that the synaptic will list source packages along with the binaries?
[16:56] <conb123> QUESTION: Why wont my drives mount in ubuntu 8.10 i am trying to do a fresh install and the drives wont mount the linux drive mentions something about a bad superblock when i try to mount it heres my dmesg output if you need it http://pastebin.com/m4e5c7eb7
[16:56] <koro> LTL: i did it again, it did just the same. I repeat: the repositories are there, they work, i can see all the packages going to origin->all->packages.medibuntu.org/non-free in synaptic. BUT if i search for a particular package (e.g. "acroread") it shows no results at all.
[16:56] <jonjoe> ccsm cube uses the same desktop over and over again to form a cube i wanan have individual desktops which i can put different icons in and different backgrounds does anyone know how to do this?
[16:57] <Jack_Sparrow> ragu_pattabi it should allow you to get the source yes
[16:57] <bazhang> jonjoe, please dont repeat so often
[16:57] <ragu_pattabi> Jack_Sparrow Okay. I will try that. Thanks.
[16:57] <fosco__> jonjoe, i think this is not possible
[16:57] <jonjoe> bazhang, ccsm cube uses the same desktop over and over again to form a cube i wanan have individual desktops which i can put different icons in and different backgrounds does anyone know how to do this?
[16:57] <nightstalker> ubottu How can I see a private message I know its OT wich channel can I use ??
[16:57] <Jack_Sparrow> jonjoe you can do it but you lose the ability to have icons on the desktop.. /j #compiz for more
[16:57] <bazhang> jonjoe, for specialist help you should ask in #compiz-fusion
[16:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[16:58] <jonjoe> how do i do that
[16:58] <bazhang> jonjoe, /join #compiz-fusion
[16:58] <jonjoe> ok thankyou
[16:58] <conb123> Jack_Sparrow: can you help me with my problem
[16:58] <Theseus> where is the bot of this channel?
[16:59] <nightstalker> Jack OKay I'll search for it thanks for your help have an nice christmas everyone
[16:59] <magenNET> whats wrong with the www.ubuntu.com, i have been trying to access it since yesterday, but still i cant open it ?
[16:59] <tiyowan> magenNET: Working fine.
[17:00] <Jack_Sparrow> conb123 Use a live cd..At start or install press F6 add all_generic_ide before the "--"
[17:00] <techsuperfreak> no probs here either
[17:00] <somethingorigina> I have installed Ubuntu on a seperate HD to my Raid0 XP installation which no longer boots. The new ubuntu installation will not boot. I have tried a reinstall of Ubuntu but the same problem continues. Blackscreen with white cursor in top left.
[17:00] <tim167> System>Preferences>Sessions does not work here, how can i add a startup program now ? thanks
[17:00] <conb123> ok Jack ill see if that works thanks
[17:01] <tiyowan> somethingorigina: Are you trying to install Ubuntu per se, or is your primary objective to recover your data saved under Windows?
[17:01] <Jack_Sparrow> conb123 There are several options, but that may work for you
[17:01] <Ad_> magenNET, nothing , now  i am in ubuntu.com
[17:01] <somethingorigina> My problem lies with installing Ubuntu hence my presence here
[17:02] <magenNET>  Ad_: tiyowan:  ok. well i can open it from my cell phone too , but whats wrong with my desktop PC ?? i can access google,yahoo,etc
[17:02] <ikonia> Ad_: can you please stop with the offtopic chatter please
[17:02] <tiyowan> magenNET: Can you browse other sites on your desktop PC? What error msg do you get when trying access the ubuntu site?
[17:03] <Ad_> ok, but i think he have  aproblem with IE
[17:03] <Ad_> magenNET, wat is ur browser
[17:04] <magenNET> tiyowan:  Ad_: i dont get any error but the status says connecting to www.ubuntu.com , i use firefox , ubuntu 8.04
[17:04] <ASULutzy> somethingorigina: I'm sorry I must have missed your reply earlier, at what point does it stop booting? Are you at least able to see your grub menu?
[17:04] <Ad_> try disconnect the internet and reconnect a gain
[17:05] <jonjoe> does anyone know how to get individual desktops on ccsm?
[17:05] <tiyowan> magenNET: As I wrote earlier, the ubuntu site is up. Maybe your DNS server is on the blink or something.
[17:05] <somethingorigina> ASULutzy: It stops after checking all the Hardware bios etc
[17:05] <bazhang> jonjoe, yes
[17:05] <Mallen> Looking for help with Emerald Theme Manager, PM plz!
[17:06] <jonjoe> bazbang, how
[17:06] <bazhang> jonjoe, in #compiz-fusion
[17:06] <Jack_Sparrow> jonjoe Please go to #compiz
[17:07] <ASULutzy> somethingorigina: So it posts but you never actually see the grub menu? Weird, have you tried starting it up without the faulty raid-0 drives?
[17:07] <Ad_> jonjoe, he ment go and join  the #compiz-fusion
[17:07] <qcjn> i've missed electricity last night, now i ve got a hd making lost of noise. wan't to chec it from another computer. I've got an ext wire adaptor. It s plugged but ubuntu doesn t see it, or mount it automaticly. How to ?
[17:07] <ikonia> somethingorigina are you trying to install ubuntu onto the raid 0 devices ?
[17:07] <coccolone> ITALIANO????
[17:07] <ikonia> !it
[17:08] <bazhang> coccolone, /j #ubuntu-it
[17:08] <coccolone> grazie!
[17:08] <Setebos> I am not under Users and Groups for some reason. Does anyone know how to fix this? I have a home directory and applications recognize me as a user but the users and groups admin tool does not have me and the login screen does not display me.
[17:08] <ASULutzy> qcjn: If you plug it in and typing sudo fdisk -l doesn't show it, then... I dunno, the drive exploded ;)
[17:08] <vandrar> some swed chanel , n how do i connect?
[17:08] <somethingorigina> ASULutzy: Nope, i have a handful of essential files to rescue. So disabling or unplugging the Raid is a nogo
[17:08] <jonjoe> ad, on the channel list?
[17:08] <ikonia> somethingorigina: the windows raid partition will NOT be mountable
[17:09] <jpjacobs> vandrar, /j #channel
[17:09] <ikonia> somethingorigina: I'm sure I mentioned this to you
[17:09] <vandrar> ait, tkx
[17:09] <Ad_> jonjoe,yes
[17:09] <Jack_Sparrow> jonjoe type only this on a new line    /j #compiz
[17:09] <ASULutzy> somethingorigina: er, right, but you ought to narrow down the problem, and Ikonia is probably right... If they're that essential, data recovery specialist time... Not to poke fun, but raid-0 + essential files == a bad idea
[17:09] <pdroy80> Setebos: which user and group do you mean ?
[17:09] <vandrar> #synhare
[17:09] <vandrar> äh
[17:10] <ASULutzy> ikonia: Would they still not be mountable if it were a hardware RAID?
[17:10] <ikonia> fake raid 0 meta devices created in windows won't be mounting under ubuntu
[17:10] <Setebos> Sytem -> administration -> users and groups. The one thats installed by default.
[17:10] <vandrar> how do i connect to another chanel?
[17:10] <jaw> Has anyone in the channel been able to get exchange working with Evolution? My buddy across the room has the same configurations connecting to the same Exchange server, but I can't. It setups up fine and then asks for a password repeatedly.  It sometimes also says that Exchange is offline.
[17:10] <ikonia> ASULutzy: they are not hardware from what he said
[17:10] <ikonia> vandrar: you've been told 3 times, this isn ot ubuntu related
[17:10] <jaw> another channel?
[17:10] <jaw> that is IRC help
[17:10] <vandrar> so fuckin sorry then, fuck u bitch!!!
[17:11] <pdroy80> Setebos: if you open a terminal -> Applications -> Accessories - > Terminal and type "id"
[17:11] <qcjn> ASULutzy: it doesn't see it..Ok thanks
[17:11] <pdroy80> you will see what all user and groups the user belongs to
[17:11] <qcjn> i ll change it
[17:11] <Fret18> hey
[17:11] <jaw> <-- discovered that installing VLC and Firefox media stream plugin allows you to listen to Sirius stream...
[17:11] <lianimator> what diagram software can draw Component Diagrams? can't seem to find the symbol in dia
[17:11] <Fret18> can someone help me with nVidia card?
[17:11] <jaw> let me know if you want details.. very sweet
[17:11] <Fret18> ubuntu isn't recognizing it
[17:12] <Error121> hi, im having some trouble with my sound and was curious if someone could help me out
[17:12] <tiyowan> Fret18: What card are you using? And what visual problems are you experiencing?
[17:12] <jaw> lianimator... Office draw might work...?
[17:12] <Setebos> pdroy80: http://pastebin.com/m7050f395
[17:12] <ASULutzy> ikonia: Ah, I missed that, somethingorigina if it's a software RAID, Ubuntu won't be any help... If you have essential files stored on a RAID-0 that's just a bad idea. Use 1 or 0+1 or something... As far as recovering your files, if they're that valuable you'll probably need a data recovery specialist or something
[17:12] <Azazel-AZ> is someone willing to email me the /etc/samba folder?  I accidently killed it
[17:13] <Fret18> tiyowan: I'm using XFX 5200 and, after a blackout, I turned computer on and ubuntu couldn't identify my graphics card.
[17:13] <jaw> You need to fidn the chipset for the card first
[17:13] <unop> Azazel-AZ,  sudo aptitude reinstall samba samba-common
[17:13] <Ad_> Azazel-AZ,reinstall samba
[17:13] <pdroy80> Setebos: that looks good enough, though you are not there in the admin group so you might not be able to do "sudo" commands
[17:14] <Azazel-AZ> thanks.  I tried samba and smbfs I forgot common
[17:14] <somethingorigina> Ah well, you try to keep everything backed up and then suddenly god notices you and it all goes downhill
[17:14] <jaw> You can also use Synaptic in the GUI ti reinstall samba
[17:14] <tiyowan> Fret18: Does your card show up in lspci?
[17:14] <Setebos> pdroy80: I can do sudo commands. Everything works fine except I can't edit myself with that tool or appear on the login window.
[17:14] <Error121> my sound was working fine a couple days ago, then yesterday it stopped and says my /dev/dsp is busy.
[17:14] <Fret18> tiyowan: I'll check, just a minute.
[17:14] <somethingorigina> Hence why it's only a handful of essential files rather than Oh god my life is ruined
[17:15] <Setebos> pdroy80: I can edit my settings through the terminal I just want to know why I am invisable to these tools.
[17:15] <Fret18> tiyowan: No, it doesn't show up.
[17:15] <Azazel-AZ> Thanks again, I'm doing a complete purge and reinstall
[17:15] <tiyowan> somethingorigina: A bit off-topic. But how much data did you lose?
[17:15] <pdroy80> Setebos: hmm how did you add the user ? during installation or after that ?
[17:15] <Error121> i cant figure out how to tell whats tying up my /dev/dsp, anyone know?
[17:15] <tiyowan> Fret18: I don't think that's a very good sign.
[17:16] <erUSUL> Error121: sudo lsof /dev/dsp
[17:16] <Fret18> tiyowan: It worked for a little time when I reset xorg, but then it screw up again.
[17:16] <ASULutzy> Error121: Does dmesg say anything funny when you try to play stuff? I would try sudo alsa force-reload sudo lsof /dev/dsp
[17:16] <onetinsoldier> Error121: you might try using the lsof command...  man lsof
[17:16] <WolfBslapper> Please fix these problems and many upstreams will be happy! http://mange.dynalias.org/linux/misc/Intrepid_Ibex_errors.txt
[17:16] <Setebos> pdroy80: Before actually. I had the user and home directory already when I installed ubuntu and just went on using it from there. I had originally created it during instalation when I had ubuntu before that.
[17:16] <somethingorigina> approx 1gig worth of pictures textfiles and models. I had to clear space off a USB stick and neglected to realize until this happened
[17:16] <tiyowan> Fret18: Personally, I'd open up the box, yank out the card and test it in a spare PC.
[17:17] <Jack_Sparrow> WolfBslapper Please just ask a question, not just post a link
[17:17] <erUSUL> somethingorigina: use photorec
[17:17] <Fret18> tiyowan: I installed Ubuntu through Wubi, so I tested the card in Windows and it works normally.
[17:17] <ASULutzy> somethingorigina, tiyowan: Again, this is a software RAID, there's nothing to yank out and try somewhere else, if the software raid is hosed, gl
[17:17] <WolfBslapper> Jack_Sparrow: ubuntu is broken in many places, please fix it already!
[17:17] <Jack_Sparrow> WolfBslapper PLease stop
[17:17] <WolfBslapper> ?
[17:17] <bazhang> WolfBslapper, wrong channel
[17:18] <pdroy80> Setebos: could be that some of the user specific files did not get copied, during installation, just a wild guess
[17:18] <bazhang> oops
[17:18] <Setebos> pdroy80: I have my home directories installed in a seperate partitions for when I decide to distro hop.
[17:18] <tiyowan> ASULutzy: I was referring to Fret18's graphics card, not the RAID array. :D
[17:18] <Error121> yeah, i tried sudo lsof |grep /dev/snd i got from the support site
[17:18] <Setebos> pdroy80: Is there a way to fix this?
[17:18] <ASULutzy> tiyowan: Oh my mistake :X
[17:18] <conb123> Jack_Sparrow: That command you gave me didn't work heres the error i get http://i43.tinypic.com/14uxaf4.jpg
[17:18] <Error121> all thats there is esd a d mixer_app
[17:18] <law_> ..
[17:19] <pdroy80> Setebos: I had did a fix for one of ma friends, trying to figure what I had actually done
[17:19] <Setebos> pdroy80: If I delete the user and then recreate it with the same directory would I still have all my files?
[17:19] <lw0x15_> man
[17:19] <lw0x15_> i love fluxbuntu
[17:19] <lw0x15_> :]
[17:19] <tiyowan> Fret18: Perhaps some linux file got corrupted in the blackout?
[17:19] <Jack_Sparrow> conb123 you didnt try to install to ntfs or something did you?
[17:19] <Fret18> tiyowan: Possibly. How could I fix it?
[17:19] <bazhang> come discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic lw0x15_
[17:20] <pdroy80> Setebos: thats risky it is based on what command you do to delete the user
[17:20] <conb123> sorry no i just clicked on my ext3 partition that has linux on it and i got that error
[17:20] <pdroy80> man userdel
[17:20] <Jack_Sparrow> conb123 did it pas a fsck?
[17:20] <jahjah> is there anybody come from indonesia??
[17:20] <onetinsoldier> Error121: roger.  esd could possibly be causing a problem
[17:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !fsck > conb123
[17:20] <pdroy80> Setebos: dont use -r, that would delete the home directory also
[17:20] <bazhang> #ubuntu-id jahjah
[17:20] <conb123> Im sorry im not really that experienced with linux im not sure what that means
[17:21] <magenNET> lw0x15_:  fluxbuntu???
[17:21] <Jack_Sparrow> conb123 please read that factoid from ubottu
[17:21] <Setebos> Okay I will try it. Thanks
[17:21] <topsub> i have a vmware 2.0 setup with a guest. i need to mount a harddrive to that guest for backuppc. does anyone have docs i can use to do this?
[17:21] <lw0x15_> magenNET: yeppers
[17:21] <Error121> how can i tell if esd is causing the problem?
[17:21] <tiyowan> Fret18: I'd trying reinstalling Ubuntu really.
[17:21] <conb123> should i run that command that it says sudo shutdown -F -r now
[17:22] <magenNET> lw0x15_: i heard it for the 1st time, whats new in it?
[17:22] <Fret18> tiyowan: Dang... OK, thanks for the help. :)
[17:22] <jahjah> disini ada orang pribumi???
[17:22] <ASULutzy> conb123: do sudo touch /forcefsck
[17:22] <pdroy80> topsub: what hard disk is this ?
[17:22] <lw0x15_> magenNET: http://fluxbuntu.org/
[17:22] <tiyowan> Fret18: No worries, mate. Also, get a good UPS if you suffer from frequent power outages.
[17:22] <onetinsoldier> Error121: i'm not sure. perhaps you should see if your /dev/dsp works if you remove the esd package
[17:22] <conb123> ok i run that command now what it didn;t return anything
[17:23] <Fret18> tiyowan: Fortunately, it's not frequent. Thanks again.
[17:23] <magenNET>  lw0x15_: i am on it already...:) .... but whats the difference ?
[17:23] <Guest1089> hi
[17:23] <Guest1089> hi
[17:23] <brainac0cult> how do I send files i  pidgin
[17:23] <Guest1089> :-D
[17:23] <unop> brainac0cult, drag and drop?
[17:23] <ASULutzy> conb123: Now next time you reboot, fsck will be run on the root partition
[17:23] <onetinsoldier> Error121: or might be possible to just shut esd down rather than removing it
[17:24] <quatar-it> hi all!
[17:24] <quatar-it> can you tell me how to remove a print request done via samba?
[17:24] <magenNET>  lw0x15_: seems like an apple os clone ?
[17:24] <brainac0cult> no
[17:24] <Guest1089> why
[17:24] <tim167> anyone using vncviewer ? how do i set -nocursorshape to 'false' ?
[17:24] <conb123> ok but im using a live cd because my existing ubuntu installation will not work will it still run
[17:24] <bazhang> magenNET, lw0x15_ please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:24] <ruadh> I have MySQL Server 4.1 installed on this machine, but am unable to start it. Can any one help?
[17:24] <topsub> pdroy80 what do you mean? i need to mount a harddrive to the server and have my guest ubuntu install from vmware 2.0 read that hard drive
[17:24] <stefo85> hi, how can i insert images in a conversation with pidgin 2.5? Now the option is disabled
[17:24] <magenNET> bazhang: ok sorry
[17:25] <kerik> tiyowan, hey mate
[17:25] <mojo> hi everyone
[17:25] <pdroy80> topsub: if it is an external usb disk all you have to do is connect it and in the console select the USB disk and gets connected to the guest
[17:25] <conb123> ASULutzy: Will it still run it from the live cd because i am having to use that at the moment
[17:26] <topsub> no this is a hard drive 500 gb i want to mount to the desktop
[17:26] <mojo> my pc suddenly has no sound output, can some1 suggest me a best way to troubleshoot this?
[17:26] <ASULutzy> ruadh: What is the output of sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[17:26] <nebopolis> I' having a rather odd problem with an older Powerbook that I just installed ubuntu on. I was able to install ubuntu with no problems, but once I booted it X had a "painterly" effect (jittering blocks of the screen moving back and forth, up and down making it impossible to read text.) A low-res screenshot can be found here: http://orangutanpotato.com/images/1223081100c.jpg.  The graphics card is a Ati rage mobility M3 agp 2x
[17:26] <nebopolis>  according to the xorg.conf, and it is using the "ati" driver. I tried changing the driver to vesa or vga, but that did not solve the problem. Graphics work fine in text mode, so I am suspecting a xorg configuration problem.
[17:26] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, hey there
[17:26] <topsub> pdroy80, ya this is just a hard drive i want to mount to the desktop and have the guest able to use it
[17:26] <ruadh> ASULutzy: I'll try that, thanks
[17:27] <ASULutzy> conb123: Oh, if you're on the livecd, just run fsck from there. Do sudo fdisk -l to find the partition that Ubuntu is installed on, and then do sudo fsck /dev/thatpartition
[17:27] <Jack_Sparrow> kerik Hey
[17:27] <ASULutzy> conb123: You should also do sudo umount /dev/thatpartition before you fsck just to make sure it's not mounted
[17:27] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, I have successfully reinstalled ubuntu
[17:27] <conb123> ok sudo fdisk -l just returns unable to read /dev/sda
[17:27] <Jack_Sparrow> kerik at 800x600 now?
[17:27] <rpattabi> QUESTION: I enabled sources checkbox in synaptic. Updated the package info. Still I don't see source code packages. E.g. I want to download and install inkscape source version. Any idea?
[17:28] <somethingorigina> Me again after reading an interesting forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=833653 So i CAN gain access to my fakeraid... if i can get Ubuntu to work but i can't get ubuntu to work without disconnecting my fakeraid... or is it probably just an MBR problem that i need to fix?
[17:28] <ASULutzy> conb123: Er, it doesn't have any partitions? like /dev/sda1 etc
[17:28] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, at 1280x800 ;)
[17:28] <pdroy80> topsub: yup then just connect to usb and then in the vmware console you can see it showing the USB disk, select the disk and wil be available to the guest
[17:28] <Jack_Sparrow> kerik cool
[17:28] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, but without the correct driver as far as I know..
[17:28] <conb123> ASULutzy: Yes i have windows on /dev
[17:28] <conb123> whoops
[17:28] <avis> i get this message when building the b43 legacy drivers myself b43legacy (/lib/modules/2.6.27-11-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/b43legacy/b43legacy.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) when i try and sudo modprobe b43legacy
[17:28] <conb123> ASULutzy: yes i have windows on /dev/sda1 and linux on /dev/sda5
[17:28] <Jack_Sparrow> kerik I used the one just before the -77
[17:29] <ASULutzy> somethingorigina: Neat, well then you ought to do what I said earlier, try booting without the faulty drives, just to see if somehow they're what's stopping your grub menu from appearing
[17:29] <topsub> pdroy80, its a sata internal hard drive. your saying connect it as if it was a usb drive?
[17:29] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, ok...how did you come across that one?
[17:29] <ASULutzy> conb123: do this: sudo umount /dev/sda5 && sudo fsck /dev/sda5
[17:29] <pdroy80> topsub: I was mentioning about an external hardidk connected via the USB
[17:29] <Jack_Sparrow> kerik it was listed under restricted drivers, just one back
[17:29] <onetinsoldier> nebopolis: you should include a pastebin url of your xorg.conf file and your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file in the description of your problem
[17:29] <conb123> sudo umount /dev/sda5 && sudo fsck /dev/sda5
[17:29] <alexmax> Hi there.  It seems like there is an inconsistancy in using the scroll wheel on the desktop between compiz and no-compiz.  With compiz, using the scroll wheel on the desktop switches workspaces, without it I have to manually switch workspaces which is annoying.  How do I get mousewheel workspace switching?
[17:29] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, as I was told before i left earlier on, I might have had 3 diff. drivers installed....can you tell me how to install the right one?
[17:29] <somethingorigina> ASULutzy: I might as well make that the next step. Just wanted to share that post as it seems quite helpful!
[17:29] <conb123> sorry i just typed it in here by accident
[17:30] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, via hardware drivers?
[17:30] <conb123> lol
[17:30] <topsub> pdroy80 no i have a 500 gb hard drive i want to mount to this ubuntu jeos for backups. but i need to allow that guest to read / write to this new hard drive.
[17:30] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, or synaptics?
[17:30] <Jack_Sparrow> kerik yes. but if it is working, make a backup
[17:30] <evilx_> Anyone know where  I can find some documentation about setting up ubuntu to be a PXE server with the clients using x11vnc?
[17:30] <conb123> ASULutzy: it returns /dev/sda5: not mounted
[17:30] <Jack_Sparrow> kerik hardware drivers... restricted etc
[17:30] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, I have to ask you...how to make a backup in Linux?
[17:30] <ASULutzy> ok, then do sudo fsck /dev/sda5
[17:30] <evilx_> I find stuff on just pxe server, but nothing about X11vnc
[17:31] <hischild> !backup | keres
[17:31] <nebopolis> onetinsoldier: the laptop is not currently connected to the Internet. sorry
[17:31] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, all of home dir?
[17:31] <hischild> kerik, ^ see above ( keres, wrong nicK)
[17:31] <keres> what??
[17:31] <keres> lol
[17:31] <Jack_Sparrow> kerik Here is one I have used in the past..  tar cvpzf backupdell.tgz --exclude=/backupdell.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/dev --exclude=/lost+found  --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys --exclude=/media --exclude=/root/.Trash -- /
[17:31] <conb123> ASULutzy: it returns fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda5
[17:31] <conb123> Could this be a zero-length partition?
[17:31] <onetinsoldier> nebopolis: roger...
[17:32] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, just write that in terminal?
[17:32] <rpattabi> QUESTION: How can I install source code? I enabled 'sources' checkbox in synaptic. Updated the package info. Still I don't see source code packages. E.g. I want to download and install inkscape source version. Any idea?
[17:32] <pdroy80> topsub: the only way I currently know is you can make an NFS or samba share in the host machine and then access it from the guest machine via ip
[17:32] <ruadh> ASULutzy: I get a message saying, "sudo: /etc/init.d/mysql: command not found"
[17:32] <Jack_Sparrow> kerik yes, but there are many options...  remember sudo as needed..
[17:32] <pdroy80> topsub: just like sharing it across two different machines
[17:33] <carpii> rp3__: sudo apt-get source <package>
[17:33] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, sure..
[17:33] <Solarium> Hello guys and girls
[17:33] <ASULutzy> ruadh: Er, maybe try sudo /etc/init.d/mysqld start
[17:33] <Kidfork> Is it possiable to remove all of the GNOME panels from my desktop?
[17:33] <ASULutzy> conb123: Well, that's not good news, google "Could this be a zero-length partition?" Nothing comes back very positive
[17:33] <onetinsoldier> rpattabi: go to your home directory, or wherever you want to download the source package to. then try -->  apt-get -d install <source_package> ; ls
[17:34] <Solarium> Question: I was looking for some sis drivers, some nice person posted a link to a file that supposed to be the driver from sis developer, this is the first post from that person, so i am a little bit not sure wheather i should run it. the file is <name>.run
[17:34] <Solarium> Any way to see whats inside and what it does ?
[17:34] <onetinsoldier> rp3__: you'll probably ne to proceed that with the 'sudo' command
[17:34] <pdroy80> ASULutzy: its /etc/init.d/mysql and not mysqld
[17:34] <cousins> bapt
[17:34] <ASULutzy> pdroy80: Yea, I thought it was, that's what I told him to do and he said command not found
[17:34] <bastid_raZor> Solarium; open it with a text editor like vim or nano
[17:35] <ASULutzy> ruadh: How exactly did you install mysql?
[17:35] <pdroy80> ASULutzy: may be mysql is not installed
[17:35] <ruadh> ASULutzy: Done that and still get the same message
[17:35] <Solarium> bastid_raZor, okay trying that. Thanks
[17:35] <ASULutzy> pdroy80: Yea, I guess I should never trust, "I installed mysql but can't get it to run" ;)
[17:35] <ruadh> ASULutzy: get-apt install mysql-server-4.1
[17:36] <kerik> jack
[17:36] <rpattabi> onetinsoldier and carpii. Thanks for your suggestions. I will try that.
[17:36] <Kidfork> Is it possiable to remove all of the GNOME panels from my desktop?
[17:36] <pdroy80> ASULutzy: if you do "dpkg -l mysql-server" one will know if mysql server is installed or not
[17:36] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, it tells me that "cowardly refusing to create an empty archive"
[17:36] <ASULutzy> ruadh, pdroy80: Yea, was about to suggest that next :) do sudo dpkg -l mysql-server
[17:36] <Solarium> Well i opened a file and there is a line there that every one keeps warning me about on the forums, tell me if i am wrong this is the command in the file: rm -rf ./sis*
[17:36] <Solarium> is that safe to do ?
[17:37] <fosco__> Kidfork, if you are using gnome at least one panel must be present
[17:37] <onetinsoldier> rpattabi: sorry! i had your nick wrong.. as well as the command... wait!!!
[17:37] <Jack_Sparrow> kerik were you in root of drive as in try  cd /    first
[17:37] <carpii> solarium, if you dont understand what it does, you need to read up
[17:37] <carpii> itll remove all files beginnign with sis
[17:37] <Kidfork> fosco__: okay thanks for your help
[17:37] <kerik> hmm...no diff...
[17:38] <ASULutzy> Solarium: That will remove all files that begin with ./sis in the directory the script is run from, if it's part of an install script, maybe not a big deal, but you ought to understand what it's doing
[17:38] <carpii> but -rf means recurse (all directories) and force (no confirmations)
[17:38] <ubuntu> hi people
[17:38] <fares> can anyone here help me with setting up webcam on intrepid?
[17:38] <Solarium> carpii, i don't understand it :( a little bit of a new comer :P so decided to ask you people for a quick guidens to this problem.
[17:38] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, should I put in all the --excludes?
[17:38] <ASULutzy> !hi | ubuntu
[17:38] <onetinsoldier> rpattabi: it should be like this...   sudo apt-get -d source <package_name>  ...example --->   sudo apt-get -d source xsnow
[17:38] <carpii> Solarium, well for it to be safe, it depends what youre trying to do
[17:38] <Solarium> ASULutzy, i am trying to with your help & thanks
[17:38] <ruadh> ASULutzy: It says "no packages found matching ..."
[17:38] <ubuntu> anyone here can help with wireless?
[17:39] <ASULutzy> ruadh: So you didn't actually install mysql :)
[17:39] <Solarium> ASULutzy, carpii its suposed to be a driver for my sis graphics card in a driver.run file
[17:39] <Solarium> ASULutzy, carpii its suposed to be a driver for my sis graphics card in a driver.run file
[17:39] <carpii> and you want to delete it?
[17:40] <ASULutzy> ruadh: Any reason you need 4.1 specifically?
[17:40] <ruadh> ASULutzy: How should have I installed it?
[17:40] <Solarium> ASULutzy, carpii some one posted it on the ubuntuforums, but its hes first post, and i had some back expirience with those drivers so trying to understand before i do anything, thanks again
[17:40] <Kidfork> Can i make a rescue CD for ubuntu? Kinda likes windows?
[17:41] <Mallen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[17:41] <fares> Kidfork: Your live CD should already contain a rescue mode
[17:41] <ASULutzy> ruadh: I would have just done sudo apt-get install mysql-server though that will pull down 5.0
[17:41] <brainac0cult> k
[17:41] <ruadh> ASULutzy: I have "MySQL Tutorial" book and it expects users to have 4.1 installed
[17:41] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, but if we should move onto next step...what would that be?
[17:41] <Guest40637> hi
[17:41] <Kidfork> fares: well about a week ago Ubuntu wouldn't load, and when i stuck the live CD in (as it told me) it just went to the installation screen and i had to reinstall and lost all of my files
[17:42] <fares> ruadh: maybe you should try sudo apt-get install mysql-server-4.1
[17:42] <ASULutzy> ruadh: Well, I would either just sudo apt-get install mysql-server and count on most of the stuff still working, or you're going to have to download the source for 4.1 and compile it yourself
[17:42] <ASULutzy> fares, ruadh: If you're on intrepid, you won't be able to apt-get install it, it's obsolete
[17:42] <ruadh> ASULutzy: ok. thanks
[17:43] <ASULutzy> ruadh: If it were me, I'd just grab mysql-server
[17:43] <fares> anyone can help me here with setting up webcam?
[17:43] <fares> I can see the cam on lsusb
[17:43] <fares> but no corresponding /dev/video* node
[17:43] <ASULutzy> Kidfork: You did it wrong ;) when it goes to the install screen, there's a try Ubuntu option
[17:44] <fares> and the gspca or quickcam module isn't loaded
[17:44] <ASULutzy> Kidfork: From there you can work on trying to fix your install
[17:45] <Kidfork> ASULutzy: Im kinda a newbie, i wouldn't no how to do something like that,
[17:45] <JoshGo1> hey there, i need some support with installing Ubuntu, using the livedisc.. and trying to get a dualboot with Vista working.
[17:45] <kirko> hello, I would like to install the package described at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+package/linux-image-2.6.24-16-openvz. But it is not listed in my repositories. How do i make it available to apt-get install ...?
[17:45] <Jaza> Can anyone tell me what app I can use to sync Iphone?
[17:45] <ASULutzy> Kidfork: That's what #ubuntu and the forums are for
[17:45] <carpii> in ubuntu server, whats responsible for updating the /etc/motd ? it seems to be dynamic whereas I just want a static text file
[17:45] <JoshGo1> "use free space" <-- uses 100% of the disc.. i'd like to leave my Vista section intact
[17:45] <coeus82> Jaza: I believe songbird does that
[17:46] <Kidfork> Jaza: have you already activated it through iTunes?
[17:46] <minhxuan> Why i can`t install flahsplayer
[17:46] <ASULutzy> JoshGo1: I never use the auto installer personally, just setup the partitions manually, it's not too tough and people can guide you through it
[17:46] <kerik> ikonia, hey there
[17:47] <conb123> ASULutzy: hi i didn't find much on google but one guy was saying that his problem was because fstab was telling linux that his partition was ext3 when really it was ext2 does my fstab look ok to you http://pastebin.com/m411e27ab
[17:47] <pdroy80> minhxuan: do you want flashplayer for your firefox
[17:47] <ASULutzy> JoshGo1: Set the Vista partition to the size you want it, create a new ext3 partition for "/" and also create a small partition for swap (at a minimum)
[17:47] <Jaza> yes I have activated on itunes
[17:47] <JoshGo1> ASUL, can you guide me through? or is this correct: http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=examplerw0.png
[17:47] <Spaff> hello, who fancies helping me decipher why ubuntu won't recognise the keyboard and trackpad on my laptop after install?
[17:47] <Kidfork> Jaza: Ok Have you tried Rythumbox to sync it yet?
[17:47] <minhxuan> hi
[17:48] <ASULutzy> conb123: That's the fstab from your livecd, your real /etc/fstab would be on /dev/sda5... I would repost the output you got when you tried to fsck /dev/sda5, maybe someone can be more helpful about it than I was
[17:48] <minhxuan> i have problem
[17:48] <pablo> !imspector
[17:48] <Kidfork> Jaza: try using gtkpod or Amorak
[17:48] <minhxuan> why i can`t install flash player
[17:48] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, are you here mate?
[17:48] <Jaza> no but I tried gtkpod and hipo ipod
[17:48] <minhxuan> can you hepl me
[17:48] <kerik> tiyowan, are you here?
[17:48] <Kidfork> Jaza: Try amorak
[17:49] <Jaza> and wont work it does not recognize it
[17:49] <minhxuan> uk
[17:49] <pdroy80> minhxuan: you can install vlc and view flash videos
[17:49] <ASULutzy> JoshGo1: No that is going to destroy the whole disk, pick guided resize
[17:49] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash minhxuan
[17:49] <onetinsoldier> rpattabi: ok, i also found that you don't need to use 'sudo', and it's probably preferable not to
[17:49] <ASULutzy> JoshGo1: Guided resize looks alright (though you may want to give Windows more or less space depending on your needs)
[17:49] <pdroy80> if you want to see flash in your firefox then you can get it done by "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[17:49] <kirko> hello, I would like to install the package described at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+package/linux-image-2.6.24-16-openvz. But it is not listed in my repositories. How do i make it available to apt-get install ...?
[17:49] <Kidfork> Is it possiable to remove passwords from accounts?
[17:50] <kirko> Or, more general, can you add the launchpad packages to your repositories?
[17:50] <pdroy80> Kidfork: do you want to login with out a password ?
[17:50] <nebopolis> alright, managed to get logs using a flash drive, so reposting:  I' having a rather odd problem with an older Powerbook that I just installed ubuntu on. I was able to install ubuntu with no problems, but once I booted it X had a "painterly" effect (jittering blocks of the screen moving back and forth, up and down making it impossible to read text.) A low-res screenshot can be found here: http://orangutanpotato.com/images/122
[17:50] <nebopolis> 3081100c.jpg.  The graphics card is a Ati rage mobility M3 agp 2x according to the xorg.conf, and it is using the "ati" driver. I tried changing the driver to vesa or vga, but that did not solve the problem. Graphics work fine in text mode, so I am suspecting a xorg configuration problem. Xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/m149c0602 /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/m752ce8c6
[17:50] <unitedroad> Hi everyone
[17:50] <ASULutzy> Kidfork: Yes, but you should make sure that's what you want to do... I certainly wouldn't recommend it... If all you want is to be able to login without a password that's a different story from "I want no passwords"
[17:50] <Kidfork> pdroy80: Yes
[17:51] <JoshGo1> ASUL : guided resize just resizes the existing windows partition.. leaving the unused space unused
[17:51] <JoshGo1> I will try manual
[17:51] <Eu> #saojosedoegito
[17:51] <Kidfork> ASULutzy: Well im the only one who uses this PC is there isn't much that people would care about
[17:51] <Eu> join saojosedoegito
[17:51] <Kidfork> ASULutzy: SO how can i login without a pass
[17:51] <ASULutzy> Kidfork: Well, if you don't have a user password then there won't be a password for sudo either.
[17:51] <pdroy80> Kidfork: looking where I had seen that option in System
[17:52] <unitedroad> I have upgraded my linux kernel from 2.6.22-14 to 2.6.24 using aptitude, this has caused some problems for with Compiz-fusion
[17:52] <unitedroad> I now have both kernels on my system
[17:52] <ASULutzy> JoshGo1: The picture you sent, the guided resize option looked like it was about right, but feel free to do manual and post another screen shot
[17:52] <puff> I just spent a day _moving_ data from one drive to another (both in USB enclosures), only to have the second drive start that click of death... so I had to laboriously rsync it back, unplugging the dying drive and letting it cool down every timei it started clicking.  Okay, now I'm back at square one, the data is on a reliable drive but I need to get it off that drive because it's private data and a shared( physically) drive.  I
[17:52] <puff>  have four more drives I can put in the second USB enclosure, but how do I make sure the next drive isn't going to die on me?
[17:52] <Kidfork> ASULutzy: Thats not a problem my kids do use it and the only thing they do is play games, so them using the terminal is out of the question
[17:53] <unitedroad> my nvidia glx package has been upgraded from 100.14.19 to 169.12
[17:53] <JoshGo1> ASUL : New screenshot using manual:  http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotyh7.png
[17:53] <ASULutzy> Kidfork: I'm not worried about kids, but not having root accessible without any pw is very dangerous, there's a reason Linux is significantly more secure than Windows, and having a root account is one of them, you shouldn't completely remove any usefulness of the root account
[17:53] <unitedroad> so the glx driver works fine my 2.6.24 kernel's nvidia module
[17:53] <unitedroad> but it fails with 2.6.22 kernel module
[17:53] <ASULutzy> Kidfork: There's a way to setup auto-logins, I'll take a look in a sec
[17:54] <pdroy80> Kidfork: in the olden days what I used to do is, do "vim /etc/passwd" go to the line which my name and then remove the "x" int he second column
[17:54] <Jaza> Kidfork: Amerok is asking for pre-connect command and post disconnect command?
[17:54] <pdroy80> Kidfork: be sure you know what you do before you do this
[17:54] <JoshGo1> auto logins can be setup in the account section
[17:54] <ASULutzy> JoshGo1: That looks fine, just out of curiosity, what's up with having 3 NTFS partitions?
[17:54] <Kidfork> ASULutzy: Ok what if i setup a acount for my kids, can i have them login without a pass, and ill keep mine?
[17:54] <JoshGo1> Its a HP notebook.. with 1 Vista partition.. and 2 recovery partitions..
[17:55] <JoshGo1> will remove them one day..
[17:55] <Kidfork> pdroy80: Yep im sure
[17:55] <unitedroad> I need to know if I can configure different GLX versions to be used with my two kernel versions
[17:55] <JoshGo1> Kidfork, just set a guest account without full rights
[17:55] <kerik> hey
[17:55] <onetinsoldier> unitedroad: it's a very good idea to have the description your problem kept all in one single line
[17:55] <ASULutzy> JoshGo1: Got'cha, but yea, that looks fine, oh wait, are those all primary partitions?
[17:55] <kerik> tiyowan: hey
[17:55] <pdroy80> JoshGo1: Autolog, it only enables autologin but I think he does not want password for sudo also
[17:55] <JoshGo1> The NTFS ones are, so the Ubuntu ones are extended..
[17:55] <Kidfork> Jaza: One moment
[17:55] <JoshGo1> autologin doesnt auto sudo
[17:56] <Jaza> Ok thanks
[17:56] <ASULutzy> JoshGo1: K, just making sure, cause I don't think you can have more than 4 primary partitions :) but yea, that looks fine
[17:56] <JoshGo1> Thats right ASUL
[17:56] <unitedroad> onetinsoldier: it is a slightly long description so I felt I should split it up
[17:56] <unitedroad> I will try again
[17:56] <ASULutzy> Kidfork: Yes, you can setup passwordless accounts for them very easily
[17:56] <onetinsoldier> unitedroad: not a good idea, even if it's so long that it comes out as more than oneline
[17:56] <archman> anyone here using opera? flashplayer working?
[17:56] <pdroy80> ASULutzy: you are correct one can not have more than 4 primary partitions
[17:57] <Kidfork> Jaza: in order to use your iphone in ubuntu your going to have to install "jailbreak" in which you must download from your iPhone directy, SO use Safari>google>"jailbreak"
[17:57] <Kidfork> ASULutzy: How would i go about doing this
[17:57] <Spaff> hello, who fancies helping me decipher why ubuntu won't recognise the keyboard and trackpad on my laptop after install?
[17:57] <Mallen_> Test
[17:57] <unitedroad> onetinsoldier: yea I get it, I will now put it all together in one message
[17:58] <Kidfork> Jaza: for further instrutions please follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[17:58] <drumstyk11> hey guys, im pulling my hair out here and would appreciate any tips... I did a fresh 8.10 install and the wireless internet (w/wep) fired right up. Then i installed the updates and restarted.  Now i can see network but i can no longer connect :/
[17:58] <pdroy80> Spaff: what brand and model is your laptop ?
[17:58] <Spaff> hiya, it's a Toshiba Satellite
[17:58] <macjason0607> guys
[17:58] <pdroy80> Spaff: model number ?
[17:58] <ASULutzy> Kidfork: I may have exaggerated the easiness of setting up blank passwords, it's easy, you just have to create the user and then do passwd -d, but a simpler option (and the right one I think) is to go to system -> administration -> login window, from there click the security tab, and you can configure certain users to automatically be logged in
[17:59] <Spaff> Pro A200
[17:59] <onetinsoldier> unitedroad: ok, roger. sometimes i make a file and type out my description it it to make sure it looks all good. then copy and paste that into the channel. then it's easier for me to refine it and save it in case i need to come back and paste it again the next day
[18:00] <Kidfork> ASULUtzy: thank you very much
[18:00] <ASULutzy> Kidfork: So you could leave the password on your account (so that sudo is still safe and useful) but just have it automatically login the user, should take care of it.
[18:00] <ASULutzy> Kidfork: No problem
[18:00] <unitedroad> onetilesoldier: thanks for this advice, I will now do this
[18:00] <charles__> f
[18:00] <unitedroad> onetinsoldier^, sorry typo
[18:00] <onetinsoldier> unitedroad: you're welcome
[18:00] <Spaff> pdroy80, any ideas?
[18:00] <macjason0607> when i used to plug cd's in they used to read from /media/cdrom0 i had to change the mbr for windows a couple of days ago .. i just reinstalled grub and now when i boot into ubuntu i get an error  can't mount /media/cdrom0
[18:01] <Jaza> thanks kidfork
[18:01] <pdroy80> Spaff: was looking anyone else had problems with ubuntu on this model, I guess keyboard and trackpad works for all
[18:01] <drumstyk11> has anyone ever heard of wireless not working after updates?
[18:01] <unitedroad> ok here is the description of my problem
[18:01] <unitedroad> I have upgraded my linux kernel from 2.6.22-14 to 2.6.24 using aptitude, this has caused some problems for me with Compiz-fusion.
[18:01] <unitedroad>  I now have both kernels on my system and my nvidia glx package has been upgraded from 100.14.19 to 169.12.
[18:01] <unitedroad> Now the glx driver works fine my 2.6.24 kernel's nvidia module, but it fails with 2.6.22 kernel module.
[18:01] <unitedroad> I need to know if I can configure different glx version to be used with my different kernels.
[18:01] <FloodBot3> unitedroad: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:01] <pdroy80> Spaff: is that a fresh install ?
[18:02] <unitedroad> oops
[18:02] <pdroy80> have you done any modifications ? does the keyboard work in GRUB ?
[18:02] <ASULutzy> Just a quick question, it's been a while since I actually installed Ubuntu from CD, but when Jaunty rolls around I'll probably be doing a fresh install on my laptop, and for security reasons (ie if the laptop gets stolen) I was wanting to encrypt the disk. Does Ubuntu support that (or plan to support that) from the live-cd or only from the alternate, and if only from the alternate, what is the reasoning on that? I've seen other distros (lots, don't want to a
[18:03] <Spaff> pdroy80, obviously had no problems with them in XP. It's a pain as I finally gave up trying to get Ubuntu to work on my desktop after it simply refused to work with my hard drive set up, so I convinced myself it would be simpler on my laptop, but not even being able to type or use the mouse is making it almost impossibleQ!
[18:03] <unitedroad> I would be careful about this from now
[18:03] <Kidfork> ASULutzy: I just tried it out and what i wanted to do didn't
[18:03] <pablo> i have a problem with a package called imspector, it does not log anymore, is there a reason /var/log/imspector was ruined with a rm -rf, even when it was mkdir again and correct permissions ?
[18:03] <onetinsoldier> unitedroad: ok, i'm not complaining here, but that's too many lines to put into that chat all at once. you need to keep it as one single line(no end-of-line returns), or the channel bot will kick you
[18:03] <ASULutzy> Kidfork: What happened?
[18:03] <Spaff> pdroy80, sorry I didn't mention but it's a Wubi install as I want to test it on here before partitioninhg
[18:03] <IdleSanta> how do I merge /sda3 with unallocated partition using gparted?
[18:04] <Kidfork> ASULutzy: basicly what i want to happen is when i type in the other users name i just want to be able to hit ENTER on the password screen and login
[18:04] <Dark_Aaron-Linux> hello
[18:04] <unitedroad> onetinsoldier: I am sorry for this, I will be more careful from now
[18:04] <Dark_Aaron-Linux> can some 1 help me
[18:04] <onetinsoldier> unitedroad: np
[18:04] <pdroy80> Spaff: ohh, I have not done a wubi install earlier, but i dont think there might be any problems for that your laptop as no one has reprted any problems, check this link http://www.linlap.com/wiki/Toshiba+Satellite+A200#linux+compatibility
[18:04] <Dark_Aaron-Linux> Ubuntu has been freezeing
[18:05] <ASULutzy> Kidfork: Yea, I thought you were ok with it just automatically logging in as you sans password. If that's not what you wanted, you'll have to create the new users as you normally would, and then do sudo passwd -d theUser
[18:05] <onetinsoldier> unitedroad: np, i /msg 'd you to try and help you with this
[18:05] <Spaff> will do pdroy80, cheers
[18:05] <ASULutzy> Kidfork: I believe that will delete the password of theUser
[18:05] <unitedroad> onetinsoldier: yes I just got it
[18:05] <Dark_Aaron-Linux> Ubuntu has been freezeing on me can some 1 HELP
[18:05] <pdroy80> Spaff: this is another user who had problems with graphics resolution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=690230
[18:05] <Kidfork> ASULutzy:tyler@tyler-desktop:~$ sudo password -d leonard
[18:05] <Kidfork> [sudo] password for tyler:
[18:05] <Kidfork> sudo: password: command not found
[18:06] <ASULutzy> Kidfork: passwd
[18:06] <hischild> Kidfork, it's called passwd, not password
[18:06] <Dark_Aaron-Linux> Ubuntu has been freezeing on me can some 1 HELP
[18:06] <onetinsoldier> unitedroad: ok, reply to the the /msg if you can
[18:06] <Kidfork> ASULUTZY: ALright ty im gonna go check it out
[18:06] <pdroy80> Dark_Aaron-Linux: when does it freeze ?
[18:07] <Dark_Aaron-Linux> pdroy80: it does it randomly
[18:07] <hischild> Kidfork, it's called passwd, not password
[18:07] <pdroy80> Dark_Aaron-Linux: did you have firefox running during those times ?
[18:07] <Dark_Aaron-Linux> pdroy80: yes
[18:07] <pdroy80> hmm
[18:07] <Kidfork> ASULutzy: Do i need to restart my Computer?
[18:07] <Dark_Aaron-Linux> brb
[18:08] <pdroy80> Dark_Aaron-Linux: can you check /var/log/messages for any clues on why it is crashing ?
[18:08] <IdleSanta> how do I merge how do I merge 2 partitions ( unallocated ) with Gparted?
[18:08] <Dark_Aaron-Linux> pdroy80: can we take this to pm, brb
[18:08] <IdleSanta> sorry about the repeast
[18:08] <ASULutzy> Kidfork: I don't think so, but logging out wouldn't hurt
[18:08] <msaraujo> hi
[18:08] <msaraujo> vsnprintf.c:1185: sorry, unimplemented: inlining failed in call to ‘snprintf’: redefined extern inline functions are not considered for inlining
[18:08] <IdleSanta> s/repeast/repeat
[18:08] <pdroy80> Dark_Aaron-Linux: ok
[18:08] <Kidfork> ASULutzy: BRB
[18:08] <drumstyk11> has anyone ever heard of wireless not working after updates? i am on a fresh install of 8.10
[18:08] <msaraujo> I am getting this when trying to compile ruby from scratch
[18:08] <msaraujo> anyone that can help?
[18:09] <pdroy80> I am still on 8.04, too happy with this :)
[18:09] <macjason0607>  hi all .. when i try to put in a cd/dvd i get an error message .. error mounting /media/cdrom0 .. i did a ls /media when i put in a cd and there was no cdrom0 symlink
[18:09] <Fernandooo> whats channel ubuntubr?
[18:09] <hischild> !br | Fernandooo
[18:11] <BuGo_laptop> i was writing documentation in my wiki for ~ 1hour and fcuking FF crashed
[18:11] <BuGo_laptop> is there any fcuking way to recover my data?
[18:11] <hischild> !language | BuGo_laptop \
[18:11] <Fernandooo> thanks
[18:11] <BuGo_laptop> or maybe i can find it anywhere in memory cache or smt?
[18:11] <guptaxpn> BuGo_laptop: don't say that, it's "fscking" in this room, keep the language clean
[18:11] <BuGo_laptop> hischild, sorry but i am so in rage right now.
[18:11] <BuGo_laptop> i just want to recover my work somehow
[18:11] <BuGo_laptop> is there any way?
[18:12] <hischild> BuGo_laptop, learn to control yourself. I got more reason to be in rage, yet i am still calm.
[18:12] <SlimeyPete> BuGo_laptop: it's unrecoverable. It's usually best to write these things in a text editor then paste them into the wiki.
[18:12] <SlimeyPete> FF won't have cached it anywhere
[18:13] <IdleSanta> how do I merge 2 partitions ( unallocated ) one of the partitons is extended if that makes a difference?
[18:13] <kerik> hey guys...which driver to use with geforce 6600go?
[18:13] <LjL> BuGo_laptop: you most, most likely won't recover it, but try "sudo grep -a some-word-that-was-in-the-document /dev/mem | hexdump"
[18:13] <samuel__> kerik use the manufacturer drivers ;)
[18:13] <archman> anyone managed opera to get working with flash?
[18:13] <kerik> samuel__: you think? ;)
[18:13] <Android> slets
[18:13] <drumstyk11> has anyone ever heard of wireless not working after updates? i am on a fresh install of 8.10 and it worked before i updated it :(
[18:13] <samuel__> yes
[18:13] <jab> is there anyway to display your processors load on the top bar?
[18:14] <BuGo_laptop> LjL, grep: /dev/mem: Operation not permitted
[18:14] <kerik> samuel__: I have fu**ed up my installation once...not once more...
[18:14] <Android> what is ps ax?
[18:14] <LjL> BuGo_laptop: you do need sudo
[18:14] <Pici> Android: Its a command to show your running processes.  man ps  in a terminal
[18:14] <BuGo_laptop> LjL, it was done with sudo
[18:14] <Jim_Raynor> Howdy boys
[18:14] <dumber> drumstyk11: what channel are you using for your wireless net?
[18:14] <Android> How do i un-install ubuntu?
[18:15] <Jim_Raynor> Ubuntu is running nice, but it's kinda slow when Firefox eats too much RAM
[18:15] <bazhang> Android, overwrite the partition
[18:15] <Pici> jab: There is a panel applet for system information, one of the meters is system load.
[18:15] <drumstyk11> dumber the default channel 1
[18:15] <sara-> do resisters have a positive or/and negitive?
[18:15] <LjL> BuGo_laptop: then i don't know, check the permissions of /dev/mem...
[18:15] <Android> ok
[18:15] <LjL> !ot | sara-
[18:15] <Pici> sara-: ##electronics
[18:16] <dumber> drumstyk11: Okay. My update also broke. Apparently default ubuntu install doesn't support some european channels. Though that might be your problem as well.
[18:16] <drumstyk11> my laptop sees the network but can't get an IP (dhcp)
[18:16] <BuGo_laptop> LjL, crw-r----- 1 root kmem 1, 1 2008-12-22 18:26 /dev/mem
[18:16] <Jim_Raynor> Where can I buy more RAM in US? I'm here on vacations and I would like to enhace the Ubuntu experience...
[18:16] <alekhine36> hello guys, I am having trouble setting up me webcam on ubuntu 8.10
[18:16] <dumber> drumstyk11: have you tried running dhcpcd from terminal?
[18:16] <Pici> Jim_Raynor: Not really on-topic for this channel. Try ##hardware or #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:17] <alekhine36> it doesn't show up in skype
[18:17] <sara-> pici thank you i didnt kanow it existed
[18:17] <drumstyk11> dumber: i haven't, im not familiar with this but i will try it now
[18:17] <dumber> drumstyk11: the command should be "sudo dhcpcd eth1". Change eth1 with the wireless interface name.
[18:17] <alekhine36> thanks. i'll try that on ##hardware
[18:17] <pdroy80> dumber: why does one have to run dhcpd ? that the dhcp server, one has to do " sudo dhclient"
[18:17] <LjL> BuGo_laptop: i don't know. if you're on intrepid, maybe they've crippled /dev/mem somehow... works on Hardy
[18:17] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I installed tor using synaptic package manager on ubuntu 8.04 and when I set the proxy settings in firefox I get this Firefox is configured to use a proxy server that is refusing connections.
[18:18] <Android> how can i boot without running gnome?
[18:18] <Jaza> has anyone had any problems when jailbraking Iphone?
[18:18] <Pici> Jaza: Again. Not on-topic for this channel. Try ##iphone
[18:18] <dumber> pdroy80: Agreed. However, dhcpcd is another dchp client tool. dhclient should work as well.
[18:18] <ASULutzy> Android: Just choose recovery mode from grub boot menu, that'll give you a root terminal with no gnome
[18:18] <BuGo_laptop> LjL, i am on 8.10
[18:18] <dumber> pdroy80: Sorry, I am not really on ubuntu now.
[18:18] <Android> ASULutzy, thanks
[18:19] <BuGo_laptop> and i am going to kill myself... darn if makes me sooooo in rage...
[18:19] <BuGo_laptop> ok
[18:19] <LjL> BuGo_laptop: that's intrepid, i'm on 8.04 (hardy)
[18:19] <BuGo_laptop> really tnx for the help
[18:19] <pdroy80> dumber: just checked there is also a dhcpcd
[18:19] <Jaza> sorry I didn't know there was  a channel just for Iphone
[18:19] <dumber> pdroy80: I know.
[18:20] <Tomasso> how do i control access to svn repositories using the ubuntu apache version ?
[18:20] <drumstyk11> dumber: i am having to install dhcpcd... is that a bad sign?
[18:20] <dumber> drumstyk11: nope. not at all.
[18:21] <dumber> drumstyk11: However, I think I spoke too soon for the wireless problem. You are using network manager from the panel applet, right?
[18:21] <IdleSanta> ok I got my partitions the way I want. 10GB for / 60+- for /home and /swap. when I get to the partitioning part of installer what do I select to use my existing partition?
[18:21] <U-b-u-n-t-u> anyone else having trouble with foxyproxy and or tor for ubuntu 8.04?
[18:21] <Pumper> hi guys I need some help in order to change the priveleges of an external HD I added recently....how is it possible?
[18:22] <drumstyk11> dumber: i believe so, its just the default one that pops up in the tray
[18:22] <ocx32> does WUSB54GP work under linux?
[18:22] <unitedroad> ok here are the two files
[18:22] <ocx32> its a usb WIFI
[18:22] <ocx32> does it work under ubuntu?
[18:22] <ocx32> tried under slackware no luck
[18:22] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ocx32 search the ubuntu forums youll see all the issues
[18:23] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I tried to get it to work on my lappy
[18:23] <ocx32> did it work?
[18:23] <U-b-u-n-t-u> linksys right?? wireless adapter
[18:23] <U-b-u-n-t-u> nope!
[18:23] <U-b-u-n-t-u> lol
[18:23] <ocx32> yea linksys
[18:23] <U-b-u-n-t-u> had to extra the windows exe driver
[18:23] <U-b-u-n-t-u> extra = extract
[18:23] <ocx32> ndsiwrapper?
[18:23] <U-b-u-n-t-u> and then try to get it to work
[18:23] <U-b-u-n-t-u> nothing
[18:23] <U-b-u-n-t-u> yeah
[18:24] <U-b-u-n-t-u> it ended up crashing my lappy
[18:24] <OmnipotentEntity> hey guys, my wireless keeps dropping out, I get stack traces in my kern.log that look like this: http://rafb.net/p/1r9Saa24.html is this a driver issue or a hardware issue?
[18:24] <ocx32> hehe....
[18:24] <OmnipotentEntity> It's an atheros chipset.
[18:24] <U-b-u-n-t-u> so I had to go bcck to windows =/ on it
[18:24] <macjason0607> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[18:24] <macjason0607> am i suppose to have utf8 ?
[18:24] <U-b-u-n-t-u> but it might be different with ubuntu 8.10
[18:24] <U-b-u-n-t-u> havent tried it
[18:24] <Cadman21> what are the best settings for desktop cube?
[18:25] <drumstyk11> dumber: could the channel be the issue if it worked out of the box on the fresh install?
[18:25] <IdleSanta> Cadman21: the ones that work best for you
[18:25] <OmnipotentEntity> macjason0607, I have utf8 in my fstab
[18:25] <OmnipotentEntity> I wouldn't see why you'd want to get rid of it.
[18:25] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ocx32,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=626410  <<< here is my thread there was a guy helping me but it never worked
[18:25] <U-b-u-n-t-u> maybe you can gain from it?
[18:26] <ocx32> let me check
[18:26] <Cadman21> I want to be able to to grab the cube and move it with my mouse.
[18:26] <U-b-u-n-t-u> k
[18:26] <ph8> can anyone help me? I'm installing intrepid from scratch - i want an encrypted root partition and encrypted swap - but I don't want to enter two passwords at boot - i'm looking at LVM as the answer - do I create one LV group with both my (to-be) swap and (to-be) root partitions in? Or one LV group each?
[18:26] <Pici> Cadman21: #compiz-fusion would be the best place to talk about specific configurations if you already have compiz working.
[18:27] <OmnipotentEntity> ph8, you can't have an LV swap.
[18:27] <Cadman21> Pici: thanks
[18:27] <Biscuit> dearest linux chums. I'm struggling to get my keyboard and trackpad working on my Toshiba Satellite Pro Laptop despite there being no reported problems documented by other users of this laptop anywhere online that I can find. Anyone have any ideas as to why I can't get it to work?
[18:27] <ph8> OmnipotentEntity, ah. So LVM isn't the answer? Do you perhaps know how I can achieve my goals?
[18:27] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Cadman21, if it is working the command is cntrl+alt+left mouse
[18:28] <U-b-u-n-t-u> if it doesnt work with that command then its not set right
[18:29] <OmnipotentEntity> oh
[18:29] <OmnipotentEntity> ph8, I apologize.
[18:29] <ph8> :o?
[18:29] <OmnipotentEntity> oh wait.
[18:29] <OmnipotentEntity> no
[18:29] <ph8> lol
[18:29] <OmnipotentEntity> However, there is a limitation: The swap partition cannot be a LVM logical volume. It must be a real disk partition.
[18:30] <OmnipotentEntity> unless this is just as in reference to the hibernate feature.
[18:30] <ph8> so my option is unencrypted swap and one pass, or two passwords?
[18:30] <OmnipotentEntity> I don't have much experience with LVM
[18:30] <OmnipotentEntity> well,
[18:30] <ph8> unless i go into all this storing a key in the 2nd LUKS slot -- which means nothing to me
[18:30] <ph8> (found one post)
[18:30] <OmnipotentEntity> you don't really want an unencrypted swap.
[18:31] <OmnipotentEntity> If you're concerned about disk encryption.
[18:31] <jucaoma> nas !
[18:31] <ph8> indeed
[18:31] <ph8> but two passwords is also a massive pain
[18:31] <OmnipotentEntity> well,
[18:31] <jucaoma> a> alguien tendrá un manual o idea de donde encontrar un texto para aprender a usar la terminal? comandos y cosills así, soy super newbie y quiero llevarme de vacaciones un .txt para leer
[18:31] <OmnipotentEntity> if you have the same password for each that's bad too.
[18:31] <jeff_> hello
[18:31] <jeff_> CAN SOMEONE HELP
[18:31] <jucaoma> hooo, english chat , sorry
[18:32] <Cadman21> U-b-u-n-t-u: thanks thats what I was looking for
[18:32] <jeff_> i need some help, im new to ubuntu
[18:32] <OmnipotentEntity> jeff_, don't ask to ask, just ask
[18:32] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Cadman21,  np
[18:32] <jucaoma> im nsuper newbie too
[18:32] <qcjn> hi,
[18:32] <jpjacobs> jeff_, don't ask to ask questions, just ask it
[18:32] <OmnipotentEntity> hey guys, my wireless keeps dropping out, I get stack traces in my kern.log that look like this: http://rafb.net/p/1r9Saa24.html is this a driver issue or a hardware issue?
[18:32] <jeff_> well, my firefox sometimes closes randomly
[18:32] <jeff_> im using 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon
[18:32] <jucaoma> how i can format pendrive flashmemory?
[18:33] <OmnipotentEntity> ph8, you might wind up having too.
[18:33] <OmnipotentEntity> Unless you go kernel hacking.
[18:33] <The_Joe_> I just got an error from Nautilus telling me to kill bonobo (which I did fine) and then restart Nautilus - how do I restart Nautilus?
[18:33] <OmnipotentEntity> Think of it as a convenience security trade off.
[18:33] <jeff_> i have 503.6 MB of memory
[18:33] <bonhommedeneige> Hello everybody. Anyone using flickrfs here ?
[18:33] <jeff_> Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1700MHz
[18:34] <unitedroad> I have upgraded my linux kernel from 2.6.22-14 to 2.6.24 using aptitude, this has caused some problems for me with Compiz-fusion. I now have both kernels on my system and my nvidia glx package has been upgraded from 100.14.19 to 169.12. Now the glx driver works fine my 2.6.24 kernel's nvidia module, but it fails with 2.6.22 kernel module. I need to know if I can configure different glx...
[18:34] <unitedroad> ...version to be used with my different kernels. Here my pastebins --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/91756/ - xorg.conf and http://paste.ubuntu.com/91760/ - xorg.log
[18:34] <Cadman21> U-b-u-n-t-u: it works
[18:34] <jeff_> I need to chat with someone who is really patient
[18:34] <ph8> OmnipotentEntity :p
[18:34] <ph8> thanks
[18:34] <jeff_> as i am very new to ubuntu
[18:35] <jeff_> im a windows guy
[18:35] <OmnipotentEntity> ph8, sorry I couldn't be of more help. :)
[18:35] <OmnipotentEntity> jeff_, do you have any plugins loaded?
[18:35] <jeff_> i dont know, how do i check?
[18:36] <OmnipotentEntity> Tools -> Add-ons
[18:36] <jeff_> ok
[18:36] <jeff_> ChatZilla 0.9.84
[18:36] <jeff_> ubufox 0.4~beta1
[18:36] <jeff_> those 2 i have
[18:36] <The_Joe_> Anyone? No one? someone?
[18:37] <OmnipotentEntity> hmm...
[18:37] <Pici> The_Joe_: Asking 'anyone' doesnt really help.  Anyway. Nautilus is your desktop manager, so log out and login again.
[18:37] <The_Joe_> Pici, Oh I thought it was independent from GNOME - oh well, thanks.
[18:37] <qcjn> need help with a computer that i use as a server ? didn't write here the problem, cause i don't wan t to take all the space with a big paragraph ?
[18:38] <OmnipotentEntity> jeff_, download xchat and disable those addons, you'll need to restart firefox, which means leaving this channel as well, just start up xchat when you get done.
[18:38] <skorasaurus> qcjn, the ubuntu-forums may be more appropriate for the problem then.
[18:38] <g0bl1n> I'm having trouble installing UNR on a Aspire One netbook. It stops on a shell
[18:38] <kerik> anybody with experience of failing USB on laptop?
[18:38] <qcjn> skorasaurus: ok, good idea thaks
[18:39] <kerik> I put in my USB-stick but no response what so ever...
[18:39] <OmnipotentEntity> jeff_, then you'll want to see if it still crashes
[18:39] <OmnipotentEntity> hey guys, my wireless keeps dropping out, I get stack traces in my kern.log that look like this: http://rafb.net/p/1r9Saa24.html is this a driver issue or a hardware issue?
[18:39] <jeff_> umm one second omnipotent
[18:39] <Dark_Aaron-Linux> kerik: try a different port
[18:39] <skorasaurus> kerik, check out system> administration > system log
[18:39] <kerik> Dark_Aaron-Linux: I have tried 4 different ones....same result
[18:40] <kerik> skorasaurus: thanks :)...I'll try that...what to look for?
[18:40] <Dark_Aaron-Linux> kerik: what brand flash drive
[18:40] <kerik> Dark_Aaron-Linux: Kingston
[18:41] <g0bl1n> anyone with a Acer Aspire One here ?
[18:41] <OmnipotentEntity> g0bl1n, my roommate has one.
[18:41] <g0bl1n> OmnipotentEntity, UNR installed ?
[18:41] <Tumpster> anyone able to help with some speaker configuration?
[18:42] <OmnipotentEntity> g0bl1n, nope.
[18:42] <g0bl1n> ok ;)
[18:42] <hifi> I need a little help installing Ubuntu on the same device I booted the installer, I installed the installer on /dev/sda2 which is the old distributions swap and booted it from grub, the installer however wont detect the same device it booted from to be available to be installed to, how could I force that on the fly?
[18:43] <Dark_Aaron-Linux> kerik: idk
[18:43] <hifi> so basically I'd install it over /dev/sda1 and make /dev/sda2 swap when the install is completed
[18:43] <OmnipotentEntity> hifi,
[18:43] <OmnipotentEntity> how much memory do you have?
[18:43] <hifi> 256MB
[18:44] <hifi> I only need it to boot without swap only once so I can set it up later
[18:44] <hifi> I have no CD's and the machine can't boot off a USB key
[18:44] <demontager> how to format HDD in NTFS? In Gparted such possibility deactivated
[18:45] <mib_6ly8k5pm> can someone help me with my macbook running kubuntu from a live DVD
[18:45] <hifi> though if you have any tips how to boot the installer from USB key from the disk GRUB I'd be happy to hear
[18:45] <boubbin> mib_6ly8k5pm whats wrong ?
[18:45] <mib_6ly8k5pm> wifi isnt working
[18:45] <OmnipotentEntity> hifi, I was going to suggest making a RAM disk, and then dding that onto sda1, but you don't have enough memory for that.
[18:46] <hifi> if somehow I could boot the installer from the USB stick without system support
[18:47] <Slack_> who heres got the google beta on ubuntu
[18:47] <OmnipotentEntity> hifi, hmm... you could chroot into it,
[18:47] <OmnipotentEntity> and then launch everything from there.
[18:47] <hifi> could I boot the installer kernel from GRUB and set root device to /dev/sdb1 which is the thumb drive
[18:47] <mib_6ly8k5pm> slack_ theres a google linux? (other than android)
[18:47] <Slack_> yezzir
[18:48] <OmnipotentEntity> hifi, no, that requires motherboard support.
[18:48] <mib_6ly8k5pm> where can i get it?
[18:48] <OmnipotentEntity> for USB
[18:48] <OmnipotentEntity> which you don't have,
[18:48] <Slack_> their website
[18:48] <kerik> tiyowan: are you here?
[18:48] <hifi> OmnipotentEntity: but if I boot the GRUB and installer kernel from my hard drive
[18:48] <hifi> and just set the kernels root device to USB drive
[18:48] <OmnipotentEntity> oh, sorry.
[18:48] <OmnipotentEntity> yes
[18:48] <hifi> it would load the USB support I suppose?
[18:49] <OmnipotentEntity> that should work.
[18:49] <OmnipotentEntity> well,
[18:49] <OmnipotentEntity> if it loads the kernel, then yes.
[18:49] <Slack_> mib_6ly8k5pm: does android support the street view, i just installed the beta gEarth, and it baaarely works
[18:49] <mib_6ly8k5pm> i dont know, i dont have the google phone
[18:49] <qcjn> i use a computer as a server, got mpd & icecast2 + lamp and thats about it. I used ubuntu 8.04, if i'm going to reinstall, would you have an ather suggestion ?
[18:49] <kerik> other than me who have problems with USB-ports on dist 8.04
[18:49] <hifi> OmnipotentEntity: I'll try that, thanks for the brainstorm :)
[18:49] <Slack_> mib_6ly8k5pm: was i talking about the phone?
[18:49] <OmnipotentEntity> hey guys, my wireless keeps dropping out, I get stack traces in my kern.log that look like this: http://rafb.net/p/1r9Saa24.html is this a driver issue or a hardware issue?
[18:50] <OmnipotentEntity> hifi, no prob. :)
[18:50] <mib_6ly8k5pm> slack_: idk
[18:50] <Slack_> mib_6ly8k5pm: download the beta and tell me if it works for you
[18:50] <skorasaurus> kerik, how have you progressed ? did you find anything in the logs that would be suspicious ?
[18:50] <skorasaurus> (like stating an error or not)
[18:51] <ConstantineXVI> Besides looking 10 years old, is Tkinter solid enough to use in Real Life (TM) ?
[18:51] <kerik> skorasaurus: I'm not quite sure what to look out for
[18:51] <tcdiem> anyone can give me a help with gvfs thingy ? I installed ubuntu-minimal stuff and have been configuring my system by hand (for learning pruposes) .. but I couldn't get the "automounter" thing working. nautilus lists my other partitions (windows for example) but don't let me mount it or see it's files .. any tips ?
[18:51] <mib_6ly8k5pm> slack_: it wont work on a computer
[18:52] <mib_6ly8k5pm> Slack_: If you can program in (probably assembly) you could probably port it for a computer
[18:52] <Slack_> mib_6ly8k5pm: ?
[18:52] <OmnipotentEntity> kerik, cat /var/log/kern.log and paste it to http://www.rafb.net/paste and send us the URL
[18:52] <Slack_> mib_6ly8k5pm: i think i lost you
[18:52] <mib_6ly8k5pm> Slack_: do you know what source code is?
[18:52] <nat2610> my sound is some what crashed right now, it's looping on a 1/100 of a sec peace of my sound, I tryied to start alsamixer to check but I have alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: Connection refused is there anything I can do to reinitialize the sound without rebooting ?
[18:53] <Slack_> mib_6ly8k5pm: its a debian .bin
[18:53] <kerik> here goes http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/91772/
[18:53] <OmnipotentEntity> nat2610, have you tried sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart ?
[18:54] <vesayth> Hello! Does anyone know of a way to install the Ventrilo server on 64-bit Ubuntu (8.10)? Or if you can point me to a thread regarding it that would be wonderful (I haven't been able to find any).
[18:54] <tcdiem> nat2610: if you are using pulseaudio (comes with default install of ubuntu), it might work to restart the daemon
[18:54] <skorasaurus> kerik, do you have another usb key to test ?
[18:54] <nat2610> which deamon ? alsa ?
[18:54] <mib_6ly8k5pm> slack_: source code is the files that make up a program (think of the ingredients in a recipe)
[18:54] <nat2610> I used the default one
[18:54] <unitedroad> I have upgraded my linux kernel from 2.6.22-14 to 2.6.24 using aptitude, this has caused some problems for me with Compiz-fusion. I now have both kernels on my system and my nvidia glx package has been upgraded from 100.14.19 to 169.12. Now the glx driver works fine my 2.6.24 kernel's nvidia module, but it fails with 2.6.22 kernel module. I need to know if I can configure different glx...
[18:54] <unitedroad> ...version to be used with my different kernels. Here my pastebins --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/91756/ - xorg.conf and http://paste.ubuntu.com/91771/ - xorg.log
[18:55] <skorasaurus> kerik, how many usb ports do you have ?
[18:55] <Slack_> mib_6ly8k5pm: lol, i understand that
[18:55] <kerik> skorasaurus: I have 4
[18:55] <OmnipotentEntity> kerik, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/91777/
[18:55] <tcdiem> nat2610: try OmnipotentEntity suggestion (/etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart), if it doesn't work, looks for a process called pulseaudio and restart it
[18:55] <OmnipotentEntity> your USB driver crashed.
[18:56] <OmnipotentEntity> it could be bad hardware.
[18:56] <onetinsoldier> unitedroad: i noticed something at the top of your 'xorg.conf' file --> This file was generated by failsafeDexconf, using values from the debconf database and some overrides to use vesa mode.  -->You should use dexconf or another such tool for creating a "real" xorg.conf<--
[18:56] <mib_6ly8k5pm> Slack: haha
[18:56] <OmnipotentEntity> it crashed at boottime.
[18:56] <Pici> unitedroad: Why do you need to use the old kernel version? Have you upgraded to a new version of Ubuntu?
[18:56] <mlise> can someone tell me how to get maildrop working with virtual users?
[18:56] <deeri`pening> d
[18:56] <mdmkolbe> My sister's laptop got reset to factory defaults (i.e. disk re-imaged), but she would like to recover some of the data that was on there.  I plan to throw an Ubuntu live CD at it but what software should I use to recover the data?
[18:56] <mib_6ly8k5pm> Slack_: do you know how to program?
[18:56] <onetinsoldier> unitedroad: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[18:56] <kerik> OmnipotentEntity: how do you tell??
[18:57] <mlise> it appears maildrop doesn't support mysql auth from standard packages?
[18:57] <unitedroad> onetinsoldier:I am currently using 7.10 AMD64 version
[18:57] <OmnipotentEntity> kerik, I pasted the part of the log that told me, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/91777/
[18:57] <U-b-u-n-t-u> anyone else having trouble with foxyproxy and or tor for ubuntu 8.04?
[18:57] <unitedroad> Pici:things were working smooth on the older version and there are still some other issues I am having with the newer one
[18:57] <ushills> Hi, I have just installed a new hard drive and would like it to work as an extension to the original, i.e when the original is full expand into the new as if one disk can I do this?
[18:57]  * mlise is looking for maildrop help
[18:58] <yoavk> Where can I download a driver that supports aircrack for Broadcom BCM4311 ?
[18:58] <mib_6ly8k5pm> Slack_: hellooooooo
[18:58] <OmnipotentEntity> pretty much kerik, your USB ports are disabled until restart.
[18:58] <OmnipotentEntity> you might try a sudo modprobe usbcore
[18:58] <OmnipotentEntity> and see if that works.
[18:59] <kerik> OmnipotentEntity: ok....so they initialize them ok, but then crashes?
[18:59] <onetinsoldier> unitedroad: ok, you should probably also add that to the description of your problem. sorry i didn't mention that previously. now, in 8.10, here is how i have try to have folks generate a 'real' xorg.conf file. but alas, i have a feeling this may not work so well with your older version of ubuntu
[18:59] <Pici> unitedroad: If you just upgraded then using the older kernel isn't going to change the fact that you're using updated versions of all the other software.
[18:59] <OmnipotentEntity> kerik, yes.
[18:59] <OmnipotentEntity> almost immediately too.
[18:59] <unitedroad> onetinsoldier:I had generated the Xorg.conf using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:59] <OmnipotentEntity> try a modprobe and see if that works.
[18:59] <OmnipotentEntity> it probably won't though,
[18:59] <ASULutzy> yoavk: That should be supported out of the box in Intrepid by the STA driver, just click System -> Administration -> hardware drivers
[18:59] <kerik> OmnipotentEntity: it shouldn't give me any print? - the modprobe?
[19:00] <OmnipotentEntity> geeksquad, what's your badge number?
[19:00] <OmnipotentEntity> no, it shouldn't kerik.
[19:00] <OmnipotentEntity> but
[19:00] <OmnipotentEntity> check your kern.log again.
[19:00] <OmnipotentEntity> tail /var/log/kern.log
[19:00] <OmnipotentEntity> and see if it crashed.
[19:00] <GodfatherofEir1> Could somebody help me compile a shared object archive?
[19:01] <geeksquad> why are you talking to me
[19:01] <mib_6ly8k5pm> can anyone help me get wifi working with kubuntu
[19:01] <onetinsoldier> unitedroad: ok... good. you just did this? or this how the xorg.conf file was made that's in your pastebin?
[19:01] <ASULutzy> !enter | OmnipotentEntity
[19:01] <mib_6ly8k5pm> I have a macbook
[19:01] <lianimator> why does firefox download the jpg I'm viewing (obviously downloaded already) download it again when I save it?
[19:01] <hifi> OmnipotentEntity: as a backup, do you know how I could enable the installer to accept the boot device as destination media
[19:01] <geeksquad> mib_6ly8k5pm: go to #kubuntu
[19:02] <OmnipotentEntity> geeksquad, I assume you came into the channel to say something, I was just curious
[19:02] <mib_6ly8k5pm> geeksquad: thankx
[19:02] <OmnipotentEntity> hifi, no, I've never had to do that before. :/ sorry
[19:02] <geeksquad> oh i just had a ban and i wanted to check if it was over
[19:02] <dontyoujusthatem> as i get more traffic, i am getting this error....should i get more RAM ?
[19:02] <pisecx> Guys, how can I know /dev/ that joystik use?
[19:02] <dontyoujusthatem> Fatal error: Out of memory (allocated 1835008) (tried to allocate 311296 bytes)
[19:02] <unitedroad> onetinsoldier: this is how the xorg.conf in the pastebin was made
[19:02] <hifi> OmnipotentEntity: even know the partition search scripts path_
[19:02] <GodfatherofEir1> Could somebody help me compile a shared object archive, because the normal usplash is a 2nd generation .so file, but I need the 3rd gen cause I'm running intrepid, and the usplash doesnt work with a version 2
[19:02] <hifi> or have a hint
[19:03] <hifi> I'm completely lost in Ubuntu as for hacking the system
[19:03] <onetinsoldier> unitedroad: ok, roger.
[19:03] <OmnipotentEntity> hifi, strace the installation script. ;)
[19:03] <sonicfart> ushills: I would recommend that you google on your problem or turn to the ubuntu forums or even Linxquestions.org.
[19:03] <kerik> OmnipotentEntity: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/91779/
[19:04] <Bradj47> hi
[19:04] <Bradj47> i have serious problems
[19:04] <unitedroad> Pici: I would eventually move entirely to the new kernel but right now I just wanted to try running the the glx on the old kernel while also keeping the new kernel
[19:04] <AJC_Z0> When inserting removable media (CD, DVD, etc.), how do I add an application to the list of apps which are associated with that media and presented in the pop-up window?
[19:04] <hifi> you're not the only one
[19:04] <Bradj47> i installled compiz and it totally changed my screen resolution
[19:04] <GodfatherofEir1> I really could use some help with compiling this cause the Makefile is throwing up errors for file flags
[19:05] <OmnipotentEntity> kerik, you seem to have used cat on it, try using tail.
[19:05] <GodfatherofEir1> I've already installed build-essential ane gcc
[19:05] <GodfatherofEir1> *and
[19:05] <Legendario> hi. I am experiencing a weird problem. I can't play any online games since i upgraded to intrepid.
[19:05] <Ruadh> ASULutzy: Thanks for your help. I have MySQL installed and running in Ubuntu and Debian
[19:05] <unitedroad> onetinsoldier: I had got some exception in the /var/log/messages files related to this, should I paste that too in the pastebin
[19:05] <Pici> unitedroad: Thats not really possible with that version of Ubuntu.  Intrepid introduced dkms, which makes it a bit easier to move from one kernel to the next with out major problems with hardware drivers.
[19:05] <ASULutzy> Ruadh: No problem
[19:05] <Guest91115> is there a file i can edit to change the default screen resolution?
[19:05] <kerik> OmnipotentEntity: OH I should add the tail in the front?
[19:05] <Legendario> can anyone help me here?
[19:06] <ASULutzy> Guest91115: Can you not change your resolution via System -> Preferences -> Screen resolution?
[19:06] <Guest91115> i can't read the size
[19:06] <OmnipotentEntity> kerik, just run this in terminal: tail /var/log/kern.log
[19:06] <lianimator> Legendario: be more specific. what type of game? flash or java?
[19:06] <hifi> OmnipotentEntity: damn, didn't work
[19:06] <geeksquad> Legendario: what do you think?
[19:06] <unitedroad> Pici is there no way then that I can make the configuration pick up the old nvidia glx driver when the old kernel and its nvidia module are loaded?
[19:06] <Guest91115> it would be better if i could vi a text file and zomm in using the terminal
[19:06] <ASULutzy> Guest91115: Just hold alt and click it to move the window around
[19:06] <onetinsoldier> unitedroad: might not hurt... although, someone will probably have a good idea of how to try and fix your problem fromthis error message in your Xorg.0.log file.. --> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[19:06] <Mallen> If the gfx card drivers arnt installed then you cant fix it
[19:06] <dontyoujusthatem> Fatal error: Out of memory (allocated 1835008) (tried to allocate 311296 bytes)
[19:06] <Mallen> or change it
[19:06] <hifi> I just have to somehow force it to install
[19:07] <ASULutzy> Guest91115: There's always /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:07] <Guest91115> ok, thanks ill try that
[19:07] <Pici> unitedroad: I'm not sure how to do it when moving major kernel versions like you did. Sorry.
[19:07] <cha0s> hey guys i have a question about bash scripting... i have a script that manages some source code branches for me... well i have the branches say at /foo/bar ... well, when i type this script say bs, i'd like tab completion to go from the /foo/bar directory, regardless of where i'm at. is this possible?
[19:07] <OmnipotentEntity> hifi, why didn't it work?  No strace installed?
[19:08] <Legendario> lianimator, at Urban Terror i was stuck at the "awaiting gamestate" screen. Enemy Territory does the same. OpenArena can't download the server list from master server and Urban Terror now does the same since i tried to reinstall it
[19:08] <hifi> OmnipotentEntity: I mean it didn't show the system disk when I booted the installer from the system disk itself
[19:08] <hifi> and set root device to the stick
[19:08] <unitedroad> onetinsoldier:I would still upload that, if in case it could help someone in resolving this
[19:08] <geeksquad> cha0s: go to #bash
[19:08] <hifi> only the thumb drive is still shown
[19:08] <Legendario> it's a very odd problem. I tried to turn off the firewall, but it didn't help...
[19:09] <vallhalla81> hey there all does any one know if there is a way to have an image in the back ground of file browsers insted of the theme color?
[19:09] <unitedroad> Pici: is there a direct upgrade path from 7.10 to Itrepid?
[19:09] <lianimator> Legendario: find out what ports they run on, and try opening the ports while running firewall
[19:09] <Pici> unitedroad: There isn't. You'd need to go through 8.04 first.
[19:09] <Guest91115> ASULutzy: could you tell me what property i can add under the 'screen' section to fix it?
[19:10] <onetinsoldier> unitedroad: ok. rorger that
[19:10] <OmnipotentEntity> hifi, you can just install it, apt-get install strace :)
[19:10] <OmnipotentEntity> hifi, oh? sorry, missed your last line.
[19:10] <Guest91115> would it be Resolution  <screen-resolution>?
[19:10] <OmnipotentEntity> hifi, drat.
[19:10] <Legendario> lianimator, I tried turning off the firewall completely, but it didn't work...
[19:10] <OmnipotentEntity> hifi, what about my chroot idea?
[19:11] <hifi> OmnipotentEntity: it's little risky
[19:11] <lianimator> Legendario: try making exceptions instead.
[19:11] <hifi> funny when I googled hard drive install it described about the same method I used
[19:11] <hifi> without hacking the installer
[19:11] <hifi> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Alternative-Installation-Methods-for-Hardy-86977.shtml
[19:12] <ASULutzy> Guest91115: I'm not sure that that's going to fix anything really, if there's nothing in there, then I think by default it boots into the highest resolution available? You could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg, but are you only experiencing this problem with compiz enabled?
[19:12] <jeff_> HELP!
[19:12] <jeff_> it took me 10 minutes to get back in here
[19:12] <Guest91115> ASULutzy: yes
[19:13] <jeff_> How do i stop my computer from crashing Mozilla
[19:13] <ASULutzy> Guest91115: Have you checked the logs for anything interesting as to why this is happening?
[19:13] <nicolas__> hey guys, I'm having problems properly installing flash on Ubuntu
[19:13] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me how to install packages from one box to another using openssh
[19:13] <Guest91115> ASULutzy: i remember having this problem once before and someone told me to change something in a text file, i just can't remember what it was
[19:13] <nicolas__> flash movies dont play properly
[19:13] <Guest91115> no, where are the logs?
[19:13] <ASULutzy> Guest91115: /var/log/Xorg.0.log is probably a good start
[19:13] <Legendario> lianimator, sorry. i don't understand. Can u be more specific?
[19:13] <ASULutzy> Guest91115: Oh, well if you know how to fix it then go ahead
[19:14] <lianimator> Legendario: start your firewall and try opening the ports you need. find out what ports the games use.
[19:14] <Tonno> how do I create a .iso file on Ubuntu 8.04?
[19:14] <jeff_> who can tell me why my firefox randomly closes
[19:14] <jeff_> im on 7.10 gutsy gibbon
[19:14] <jeff_> intel penitum 4 cpu 1700 MHz
[19:14] <Guest91115> ASULutzy: im going to try editing like i said, then ill restart and come back
[19:14] <c4pt> hello
[19:14] <onetinsoldier> jeff_: try by... closing out Mozilla if it's open. then -->    cd ~/ ; mv .mozilla .mozilla-crashes
[19:15] <c4pt> i am having some trouble changing eth1 to wlan0 i am using the bcm43xx driver its a linksys wmp300n any help would be greatly appreciated
[19:15] <hifi> OmnipotentEntity: could it be the installer really really can't find the disk
[19:15] <hifi> hmm, could I manually install it
[19:15] <hifi> the system boots and I have terminal and I can do stuff to the disk
[19:15] <OmnipotentEntity> hifi, if that's the case then it shouldn't show up in /dev ?
[19:15] <famio> someone with experience mounting samba shares from active directory? i'm having problems regarding uids/gids mapping
[19:15] <Legendario> lianimator, but if i lowered the firewall completely and it didn't work, what's the point?
[19:16] <hifi> OmnipotentEntity: but it shows up and I can fdisk it
[19:16] <jeff_> onetin, it doesnt do anything
[19:16] <gaintsura> how can I set iptables to accept all connection from source ports 1024-65535 to port 51413 ?
[19:16] <somethingclever> I Installed flock via a deb file from getdeb, is there a way to remove it?
[19:16] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me how to coonect one system to another on a lan using ssh
[19:16] <onetinsoldier> jeff_: after doing that does firefox/mozilla still crash?
[19:16] <lianimator> Legendario: if you're unwilling to try, then I can't help you
[19:17] <ASULutzy> DarkKnight: ssh the.ip.address.here
[19:17] <c4pt> ??
[19:17] <DarkKnight> 172.178.55.56
[19:17] <DarkKnight> ASULutzy; 172.178.55.56
[19:17] <c4pt> how would i go about changing eth1 to wlan0?
[19:17] <ASULutzy> DarkKnight: If you're looking to mount the drives, you'll have to use sshfs
[19:17] <ASULutzy> DarkKnight: or samba I guess
[19:17] <Legendario> lianimator, sorry, but i even tried to unistall the firewall to be sure if that was the problem, and again, it didn't work, so that doesn't seem to be the problem
[19:17] <OmnipotentEntity> hifi, then I can't think of a reason why it can't find the disk save that it's omitting it from the list.
[19:17] <OmnipotentEntity> hifi, are you mounted read only?
[19:17] <OmnipotentEntity> hifi, on second thought, that shouldn't matter, because that's partition specific not disk specific.
[19:18] <Sylphid|work> #dd-wrt
[19:18] <Sylphid|work> opps
[19:18] <Sylphid|work> mt
[19:18] <ASULutzy> DarkKnight: do ssh 172.178.55.56 in a terminal first to make sure you've got ssh setup correctly
[19:18] <somethingclever> I Installed flock via a deb file from getdeb, is there a way to remove it?
[19:18] <DarkKnight> ASULutzy; hey no the problem is that using net connection..we update and install packages on one system and from that system we want to update all other systems
[19:18] <hifi> OmnipotentEntity: I was someone used root=/dev/mem option to boot, I'll try if it has any difference
[19:18] <hifi> -I was
[19:19] <AJC_Z0> How do I change only the search in /etc/resolv.conf when DHCPing with Network Manager?
[19:19] <onetinsoldier> somethingclever: dpkg -r flock
[19:19] <onetinsoldier> jeff_: after doing that does firefox/mozilla still crash?
[19:19] <ultimate> sup?
[19:19] <yaris123456789> hey guys how can i solve Fatal error: Out of memory (allocated 1835008) (tried to allocate
[19:19] <ScottG489> Can anyone recommend some good add-ons and/or programs for ubuntu. I'm a new user.
[19:20] <Pici> ScottG489: Applications > Add/remove programs
[19:20] <ASULutzy> DarkKnight: I woulda taken a look at ltsp before you set all this up ;)
[19:20] <ant> what is the best automated installer to use for ubu? kickseed? fai?
[19:20] <DarkKnight> ASULutzy; hey the ipaddress is of our lab and right now i am at home...if you tell me how to do things...i shall do it in lab later
[19:20] <ultimate> ??
[19:20] <ScottG489> Pici: Well those are only currently installed ones right?
[19:20] <somethingclever> onetinsoldier, thanks
[19:20] <onetinsoldier> yaris123456789: well, i doubt i know how to help with that, but what's causing that error to occur? does that happen just from booting up ubuntu or what?
[19:20] <OmnipotentEntity> hey guys, my wireless keeps dropping out, I get stack traces in my kern.log that look like this: http://rafb.net/p/1r9Saa24.html is this a driver issue or a hardware issue?
[19:20] <OmnipotentEntity> Or is this not enough information to determine this?
[19:20] <onetinsoldier> somethingclever: you're welcome
[19:20] <Pici> ScottG489: No. That lists available software in the repositories.
[19:20] <ScottG489> Pici: currently installed but not active
[19:20] <yaris123456789> onetinsoldier: when i get more and more traffic, out of memory fatal error occurs and the site becomes dead
[19:21] <ASULutzy> DarkKnight: I'm not really sure the best way to do that though tbh, though rsync might work
[19:21] <knoppix> mile
[19:21] <hifi> if the install cd would be working I'd not be in this situation...
[19:21] <hifi> I'm ready to stab myself in the eye
[19:21] <onetinsoldier> yaris123456789: i see. ok, be very descriptive about what's happening and perhaps someone can help
[19:22] <Tetracomm> Are there any command line mp3 to ogg converters?
[19:22] <DarkKnight> ASULutzy; i didnt get you...when i asked someone...they told me to use ssh...and even onetinsoldier was also present
[19:22] <yaris123456789> okay so, as more and more ppl visit my site at the same time, Fatal error: Out of memory (allocated 1835008) (tried to allocate  occurs, now the server is dead.
[19:22] <mkeith> I have a dell inspiron e1705 laptop with a  VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X1400 video card my question is how do i shut my screen off in ubuntu 8.10
[19:22] <MHz128> hey all
[19:22] <onetinsoldier> yaris123456789: let people know what yuo just tole be. tell tham what version and architecture of ubuntu you are running, and versionof apache/mysql, ect
[19:22] <tux91> Hi everybody. How do I enable syntax highlighting in vim (i got vim-full installed)?
[19:23] <onetinsoldier> yaris123456789: let people know what you just told me. tell them what version and architecture of ubuntu you are running, and versionof apache/mysql, ect
[19:23] <ASULutzy> DarkKnight: Well, you can use ssh and sshfs and scp to copy files from one machine to another no problem, but if you're looking to like, synchronize systems and stuff, then that's a bit more complicated
[19:23] <MHz128> How can I make a backup of my Ubuntu system and be able to extract that backup to another hard disk and be able to boot from it?
[19:23] <onetinsoldier> MHz128: perhaps search google for Unix Ghost... aka g4u
[19:23] <ASULutzy> DarkKnight: If all you want is to share drives sshfs will work fine
[19:23] <DarkKnight> ASULutzy; then whats the solution
[19:23] <linny1> MHz128: have you looked at remastersys
[19:24] <MHz128> cool, will look it up
[19:24] <ushills> Can I use LVM on an existing parition without using the information on that partition
[19:24] <DarkKnight> ASULutzy; its not drives...i want packages to be installed automatically
[19:24] <hotdog003> Hello. I'm making a script that'll let a friend of mine get to his live USB flash drive. The problem, however, is that when I run sudo mount -t vfat -U 490F-8CBC -o uid=999,gid=999,users /media/flashdrive , all the files in /media/flashdrive are owned by root, not by the "ubuntu" user. What am I doing wrong?
[19:24] <ASULutzy> DarkKnight: Well, again, I'm not sure I fully understand the problem. You're saying you have one master server that gets updates and then you want to pipe those updates down to other machines on the network? I'm not really sure, I would check rsync out, but I'm sure someone in here can give better advice
[19:24] <tux91> anybody know?
[19:25] <yoavk> Why is my wireless card (Broadcom 4311) named eth2 and not wlan0??
[19:25] <DarkKnight> ASULutzy; ya so you got my problem...
[19:25] <DarkKnight> does anyone know that
[19:25] <ScottG489> I currently have GNOME installed. How can I install KDE on this machine too so I can switch between them both to see while I like better?
[19:25] <gaintsura> wow... either I've found a reason to find a better firewall or my firewall is really just that good... kind of
[19:26] <DarkKnight> ASULutzy; someone suggested using aptoncd
[19:26] <ASULutzy> tux91: Yea, it's not too tough, just do syntax on
[19:26] <onetinsoldier> ScottG489: probably as easy as...   aptitude install kde
[19:26] <hotdog003> ScottG489: You should be able to just use sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[19:26] <tux91> ASULutzy: i did and nothing happened
[19:26] <ardchoille> ScottG489: better to install kubuntu-desktop
[19:26] <ScottG489> what is aptitude?
[19:26] <hotdog003> ScottG489: Then, when the login screen comes up, go to the 'Sessions' menu and pick GNOME or KDE
[19:26] <ScottG489> well i already have Ubuntu installed
[19:26] <gaintsura> !aptitude | ScottG
[19:27] <hotdog003> ScottG489: Aptitude is like apt-get only better. Use whichever you like, really.
[19:27] <gaintsura> !aptitude | ScottG489
[19:27] <tux91> ASULutzy: ok i got it, thank you
[19:27] <ardchoille> ScottG489: install kubuntu-desktop, that will give you the kde DE
[19:27] <ScottG489> unused dependencies?
[19:27] <ScottG489> ardchoille: already have ubuntu installed
[19:27] <mkeith> can anybody tell me how to shut my dell laptop screen off when i am using a 26" hdmi  monitor  with a VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X1400 in ubuntu 8.10
[19:27] <unitedroad_> Pici and onetinsoldier: I am sorry I got dc
[19:27] <PS360> hey fellas
[19:27] <ardchoille> ScottG489: kubuntu-desktop (notice the "k")
[19:28] <hotdog003> ScottG489: It doesn't matter, really Aptitude or apt-get; use whichever you like. You'll want to install the kubuntu desktop package even though you already have ubuntu-desktop installed too.
[19:28] <ardchoille> ScottG489: that's if you want kde
[19:28] <gaintsura> mkeith: there is an option in the amdccc
[19:28] <onetinsoldier> unitedroad_: ahh, i see. np
[19:28] <ASULutzy> DarkKnight: Yea, I guess aptoncd could work too, but again I don't have much experience doing exactly what you're doing
where would I find that
[19:28] <thxpnp> hi all =]
[19:28] <simmerz> why does the pulseaudio init script have exit 0 after a test and before it gets to the case for stopping and starting?
[19:28] <MHz128> onetinsoldier, can tar be used to create a disk image? g4u is overkill for me
[19:28] <TABASCO> Hallo! Ich habe hier einen USB Stick auf dem früher Super Grub Disk drauf war. Jetzt habe ich Eeebuntu draufgemacht aber schaffe es nicht den Stick bootbar zu machen - wie kriege ich das hin (scheinbar sind noch im MBR die Reste der Suber Grub Disk)
[19:28] <onetinsoldier> unitedroad_: this is why it casn be good to have the problem description saved to a file! :-)
[19:29] <ScottG489> so i should go into the terminal and type "aptitude kubuntu" ?
[19:29] <ASULutzy> !de | TABASCO
[19:29] <onetinsoldier> MHz128: i would look into using the 'dd' command..   man dd
[19:29] <PS360> i am trying to find ubuntu 8.10 desktop for a ultrasparc 64bit workstation but can't find it anywhere,i keep runing into amd64 and i386 images,anyone of you fine fellas can give me a push in the right direction?
[19:29] <MHz128> onetinsoldier, 10 4
[19:29] <ardchoille> ScottG489: if you want kde: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[19:29] <gaintsura> mkeith: either from the driver for your video card (includes an app) or via envyng or similar (I use envyng, saves me time, though not supposed to)
[19:29] <TABASCO> Uh, sorry, I forgot the -de
[19:29] <actafool> hya
[19:29] <actafool> i have one problem
[19:29] <actafool> ;;(
[19:29] <ASULutzy> Es ist ok ;)
[19:29] <unitedroad_> yes , I would always do this from now :)
[19:29] <PS360> :ol
[19:29] <actafool> can someone help meh
[19:30] <IdleSanta> actafool: ASK A QUESTION
[19:30] <yoavk> Why is my wireless card (Broadcom 4311) named eth2 and not wlan0??
[19:30] <ScottG489> ardchoille: I also cant seem to find out what my root password is.
[19:30] <IdleSanta> sorry bout the caps
[19:30] <actafool> okay i installed my nvidia drivers
[19:30] <PS360> i am trying to find ubuntu 8.10 desktop for a ultrasparc 64bit workstation but can't find it anywhere,i keep runing into amd64 and i386 images,anyone of you fine fellas can give me a push in the right direction?
[19:30] <actafool> but my screen shacking from time on time
[19:30] <ardchoille> !root | ScottG489
[19:30] <justizin> PS360: sparc was dropped from releases in march.
[19:30] <ASULutzy> !enter | actafool
[19:30] <actafool> i mean moving left and right for a second
[19:30] <PS360> oh noez!!
[19:30] <PS360> :o
[19:30] <actafool> okay sorry
[19:30] <justizin> so, no 8.04 either.
[19:31] <mezquitale> anyone knows how to connect to XP using remote desktop connection from your ubuntu box?
[19:31] <mkeith> gaintsura thanks will try it i have  a function key on the keyboard it works in windows but not linux
[19:31] <actafool> its so annoyng
[19:31] <justizin> http://www.tectonic.co.za/?p=2275 there may be some promise for you to upgrade to newer packages, if they are being maintained.
[19:31] <PS360> would other distro would you installed on a 64 bit ultra sparc workstation justinzin?
[19:31] <gaintsura> mkeith: which one?
[19:31] <ASULutzy> mezquitale: Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client
[19:31] <gaintsura> oh wait I know
[19:31] <justizin> mezquitale: install rdesktop, or do what ASULutzy said. :)
[19:31] <jerbear> are there any repos that have python 2.6?
[19:31] <PS360> wich other distro would you installed on a 64 bit ultra sparc workstation justinzin?
[19:31] <ScottG489> ubottu: shouldnt i be able to log into root?
[19:32] <hotdog003> ScottG489: Use 'sudo -i' to log in as root
[19:32] <hotdog003> Then type YOUR password.
[19:32] <IdleSanta> ScottG489: no! you use sudo to perform root actions
[19:32] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: You can't login as root by default in Ubuntu, use sudo, if you need a root terminal, sudo -i
[19:32] <ScottG489> ubottu: if i type su, and try to log in, even with no password it says authentication failure
[19:32] <ardchoille> ScottG489: no, logging into the root account is not necessary and can cause problems, use sudo
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[19:32] <actafool> okay anyone know why my screen moving left and right for a second from time on time..
[19:32] <actafool> something with refreshing rate or.. idk
[19:32] <ScottG489> yes i understand how sudo works
[19:32] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: Again, the root password doesn't exist by default in Ubuntu
[19:32] <ardchoille> !sudo > ScottG489
[19:32] <yaris123456789> how do i restart apache ?
[19:32] <PS360> wich other distro would you installed on a 64 bit ultra sparc workstation justinzin?
[19:32] <acrousey> I'm stuck in a little problem. I partitioned my whole 750GB external hard drive as ext3 and now my mac won't recognize it. I'm on the mac now, but in ubuntu. I did not partition the HD on this computer though. Is there a way that I can partition half the external hard drive so that my mac can read it? I say half because i have music and other stuff on the other half. I think I want to partition the half that isn't ext3 to Fat32. That seems to be
[19:32] <mezquitale> ASULutzy, rdesktop is already installed in my machine though, I'll try that first and then try Terminal Server Client, it's not installed by default in my machine though
[19:32] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: Check /etc/shadow, you'll see that the password for root is something that is impossible to hash to
[19:33] <erwin> Any suggestions for internet radio in Hardy, withit it involving amarok, ruthmbox or mms ?
[19:33] <elmnas> hi can someone a linux emulator more than wine?
[19:33] <aime> qemu
[19:33] <MHz128> onetinsoldier, ddrescue looks like the exact thing im looking for. thanks!
[19:33] <hotdog003> acrousey: Um. Not without black magic / reinstalling ubuntu. Macs can't recognize ext3, and Linux can't run off of fat32 without problems.
[19:33] <justizin> PS360: look into nexenta, it is opensolaris built with gnu / debian / ubuntu stack, but probably also only runs on intel arch for now.  there is a bit of gnu/opensolaris community, and you may find an interesting experience there.
[19:33] <IdleSanta> elmnas: search in Synaptic
[19:33] <xand_> hi folks, i have a bare install of ubuntu server, and i would like to know what i need to install on it, in order to "ssh -X" to a openssh server. Can anyone please help ?
[19:33] <elmnas> on?
[19:33] <sonoma> MIDI audio doesn't seem to play on my old Pentium3. Other sounds are fine. Virtual Keyboard is silent. Oddly, Rhythmbox plays two notes in the middle of one of my MIDI files.
[19:33] <IdleSanta> !synaptic > elmnas
[19:33] <hotdog003> xand_: You'll want the openssh-server and openssh-client packages.
[19:34] <elmnas> that doesnt help me..
[19:34] <onetinsoldier> MHz128: ok, your're welcome. and thank you for letting me know about ddrescue. it a new one to me
[19:34] <justizin> i don't really know anything about ultrasparc, so that's the best i can tell you.
[19:34] <ScottG489> ASULutzy: so ubuntu basically protects you from logging in as root by not allowing you to do so?
[19:34] <elmnas> I wonder if someone know a emulator like wine?
[19:34] <ASULutzy> yaris123456789: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[19:34] <nbeebo> sorry for this just testing something i cant test anywhere else
[19:34] <nbeebo> !riotkittie
[19:34] <PS360> ok justizin but i was looking for a distro with a windows type feel
[19:34] <IdleSanta> elmnas: searching for yourself in synaptic for " emulator" will help you
[19:34] <nbeebo> nvm
[19:34] <PS360> ;ol
[19:34] <elmnas> ok
[19:34] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: By default, though of course if you're hellbent on logging in as root it's not difficult at all to enable a root login if you're handy with Linux
[19:34] <Komaniak> Hi!
[19:34] <nbeebo> how do i do so deluge doesnt use same ports as firefox?
[19:34] <xand_> hotdog003: i already can log in with ssh, but not forwarding X, with ssh -X..
[19:34] <acrousey> hotdog003: I just want half of the hard drive to be fat32. and my computer isn't running on that hard drive. It's just backup/storage
[19:35] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: Ubuntu is trying to instill good/smart Linux habits is all
[19:35] <justizin> hotdog003: try ssh -Y
[19:35] <CntryTrousrTrout> Hello, does anyone know why with pidgeon my friend doesn't have option to let me view their webcam? Their on windows based and using normal yahoo.
[19:35] <ScottG489> yea i know im just trying to understand
[19:35] <justizin> CntryTrousrTrout: try #pidgin
[19:35] <Pete_> Trying to build xorg-server on 8.04 (sudo apt-get -b source xorg-server) but it dies  with "'GL_DEPTH_STENCIL_MESA' undeclared (first use in this function)" etc, any ideas?
[19:35] <hotdog003> CntryTrousrTrout: I'm afraid that pidgin doesn't have webcam support.
[19:35] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: It's not like you ever need to be logged in as root, again there's sudo, and if you don't want to be inconvenienced by prefixing every command with sudo, there's sudo -i, which will give you a root terminal
[19:35] <yoavk> Airodump help: I get the output -
[19:35] <yoavk> ioctl(SIOCSIWMODE) failed: Invalid argument
[19:35] <yoavk> ARP linktype is set to 1 (Ethernet) - expected ARPHRD_IEEE80211,
[19:35] <yoavk> ARPHRD_IEEE80211_FULL or ARPHRD_IEEE80211_PRISM instead.  Make
[19:35] <yoavk> sure RFMON is enabled: run 'airmon-ng start eth2 <#>'
[19:35] <yoavk> Sysfs injection support was not found either.
[19:35] <FloodBot3> yoavk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:35] <kerik> OmnipotentEntity: hey
[19:35] <dro> Is there a way to bypass a proxy server I don't have control over? I use HughesNet Satellite internet and my torrents are struggeling... If ya know what I man.
[19:35] <ScottG489> so what is the sudo -i for then?
[19:35] <Bradj47> im back
[19:36] <actafool> deammm can anyone help ?
[19:36] <dro> mean*
[19:36] <CntryTrousrTrout> hotdog003: what can I use, kopete sux it adds like random 300 bots ect
[19:36] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: sudo -i gives you a root terminal
[19:36] <hwilde> help I just changed my theme and now my previous custom theme is GONE
[19:36] <ScottG489> ok i see. how is that different then being logged in as root?
[19:36] <hotdog003> CntryTrousrTrout: Hmm. For MSN, there's amsn. But to be honest, I'm not sure what you have for Yahoo.
[19:36] <kerik> OmnipotentEntity: I can see it working but why can't I use the graphics in appearances?
[19:36] <Bradj47> all it did was change things to a screen resolution that i never specified
[19:36] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: By default Ubuntu doesn't want people logging in graphically as root, which makes sense, because if you've logged in graphically as root, then every single thing you run will run as root, which is a bad idea
[19:36] <ardchoille> ScottG489: Please read this page, it will answer a lot of your questions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[19:36] <mezquitale> justizin, canI be logged on to the XP machine when I log in remotely or will I have to log out first???
[19:36] <ScottG489> yea im in the middle of reading that now
[19:36] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: Yes, read that link, it answers probably all your questions
[19:36] <Komaniak> It's not spam: please help me and only open this site www.komaniak.xaa.pl Thank you!
[19:36] <CntryTrousrTrout> hotdog003: im using pigeon
[19:36] <hischild> !sudo | ScottG489
[19:37] <CntryTrousrTrout> hotdog003: ive tried kopete but it sux. any other webcam support?
[19:37] <CntryTrousrTrout> hotdog003: what is jasper?
[19:37] <yoavk> Sorry!   Airodump help - see http://paste.ubuntu.com/91787/
[19:37] <hotdog003> CntryTrousrTrout: Not that I know of, I'm afraid. And I've never heard of jasper.
[19:38] <actafool> anyone can help ... i installed nvidia driverz but screen flashing periodic from time on time.. ;(
[19:38] <CntryTrousrTrout> hotdog003: ok
[19:38] <nbeebo> how do i do so deluge doesnt use same ports as firefox?
[19:38] <ASULutzy> Heh, I'm glad I read that RootSudo wiki article, I didn't know about "sudo !!"
[19:38] <CntryTrousrTrout> Does anyone know what yahoo/linux based programs support webcam?
[19:38] <unitedroad> I have upgraded my linux kernel from 2.6.22-14 to 2.6.24 using aptitude, this has caused some problems for me with Compiz-fusion. I now have both kernels on my system and my nvidia glx package has been upgraded from 100.14.19 to 169.12. Now the glx driver works fine my 2.6.24 kernel's nvidia module, but it fails with 2.6.22 kernel module. I need to know if I can configure different glx...
[19:38] <unitedroad> ...version to be used with my different kernels. Here my pastebins --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/91756/ - xorg.conf and http://paste.ubuntu.com/91771/ - xorg.log - I am getting this line in xorg.conf - (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[19:38] <TABASCO> I am trying to install eeebuntu on an usb stick. The installation worked fine, but the mbr seems to be broken, when I boot from the stick the screen gets flooeded by the word "GRUB" until I power off. How can I fix the MBR?
[19:38] <onetinsoldier> yaris123456789: hello? try -->  sudo invoke-rc.d apache restart   ..if that doesn't work try -->  sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[19:38] <elmnas> can someone help me how do I change the ubuntu logo on the application meny to example gnome?
[19:39] <onetinsoldier> unitedroad: wb. looks good
[19:39] <unitedroad> is there a way X can be told to load  different glx drivers in different situations
[19:39] <CntryTrousrTrout> is gyach any good, I heard it suxed and buggy but I dunno
[19:39] <unitedroad> onetinsoldier: thanks
[19:39] <yoavk> I have problem with airodump - pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/91787/
[19:40] <nbeebo> elmnas, all i know is it in the same folder as the icon theme, if that would help
[19:40] <Finnish> Is HDMI working in ubuntu, with ATI-card?
[19:40] <nbeebo> yes
[19:40] <elmnas> hmm ok..
[19:40] <nbeebo> i have tried it finnish
[19:40] <ardchoille> elmnas: open a terminal and type: gconf-editor
[19:40] <mezquitale> justizin, forget it, I figured it out, I didnt have a password set on my XP machine, thank you for the 411, rdesktop works like a charm!  :-)
[19:40] <ardchoille> elmnas: I'll walk you through it
[19:40] <kurumin> iptraf
[19:41] <Finnish> nbeebo: Tell me
[19:41] <ASULutzy> yoavk: explain in detail what you've already done (did you put the card in monitor mode with airmon first?)
[19:41] <elmnas> ok ok
[19:41] <elmnas> another thing umm
[19:41] <yoavk> ASULutzy: yes i have
[19:41] <Pici> !who
[19:41] <elmnas> I have downloaded a theme to emerald themer
[19:41] <elmnas> but how do I enable the theme?
[19:41] <actafool> ok.. can someone help me in private.. cause here alot of flood :D
[19:41] <nbeebo> finnish, i used the application u got when installing the driver
[19:41] <xand_> hi folks, i have a bare install of ubuntu server, and i would like to know what i need to install on it, in order to "ssh -X" to a openssh server. Can anyone please help ?
[19:41] <fosco__> elmnas, just clic on it
[19:41] <Finnish> nbeebo: CCC?
[19:41] <elmnas> deosnt work..
[19:42] <nbeebo> finnish no, wait ill check
[19:42] <fosco__> elmnas, you must be using gtk window decoratos
[19:42] <fosco__> change to emerald with compiz --replace -c emerald
[19:42] <elmnas> ?
[19:42] <elmnas> alt f2?
[19:42] <elmnas> and then write that?
[19:42] <CntryTrousrTrout> Does anyone know what yahoo/linux based programs support webcam?
[19:42] <fosco__> yes
[19:42] <ASULutzy> TABASCO: Try reinstalling grub?
[19:43] <Finnish> nbeebo: Please, PM me, I'm with my child so I can't be around all the time
[19:43] <elmnas> it switched and thing but the theme still the same
[19:43] <somethingorigina> Dear people's i was able to recover the data from my fakeraid 0 windows install using Ubuntu. Much <3 never give up
[19:43] <ASULutzy> xand_: openssh-server
[19:44] <fosco__> elmnas, try fusion-icon, it will allow you change these kind of things
[19:44] <ASULutzy> somethingorigina: Oh yea?
[19:44] <TABASCO> ASULutzy: Well I tried grub-install, but had no effect
[19:44] <somethingorigina> Yup, a LOT of it is corrupted but nothing i needed
[19:44] <elmnas> hmm
[19:44] <TABASCO> The point is that I have to tell the usb disk that it is bootable...
[19:44] <ASULutzy> somethingorigina: Glad to hear it, still, hopefully you learn that RAID-0 is not to be used when data loss is unacceptable ;)
[19:44] <unitedroad> I have upgraded my linux kernel from 2.6.22-14 to 2.6.24 using aptitude, this has caused some problems for me with Compiz-fusion. I now have both kernels on my system and my nvidia glx package has been upgraded from 100.14.19 to 169.12. Now the glx driver works fine my 2.6.24 kernel's nvidia module, but it fails with 2.6.22 kernel module. I need to know if I can configure different glx...
[19:44] <unitedroad> ...version to be used with my different kernels. Here my pastebins --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/91756/ - xorg.conf and http://paste.ubuntu.com/91771/ - xorg.log - I am getting this line in xorg.conf - (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[19:44] <elmnas> I fixed it
[19:45] <elmnas> but now the thing with the border :S
[19:45] <yoavk> Anyone? (airodump problem - Broadcom 4311 pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/91787/)
[19:45] <unitedroad> is there a way x can be told to load diferent glx drivers in different situations without having to explicitly change values by hand everytime
[19:45] <somethingorigina> ASLUtzy: Believe me good sir, Raid 0 never again! Adios all!
[19:45] <Pici> yoavk: The broadcom module may not support injection.
[19:46] <ASULutzy> TABASCO: When I read your original problem (Es tut mir leid, mein Deutsch ist nicht so gut) you said that you were attempting to install to an eeepc? There's a simple on http://www.ubuntu-eee.com/ that will do all of it for you (takes the .iso and then copies it to USB and makes the USB bootable)
[19:46] <yoavk> Pici: Aircrack's website says it does/
[19:46] <ASULutzy> yoavk: Depends on the driver you're using of course
[19:47] <TABASCO> ASULutzy: That is absolutely correct.. I already searched for something like this on their page, but I didn't found anything. Do you have a link?
[19:47] <yoavk> ASULutzy: I'm using the default STA driver
[19:47] <TABASCO> ASULutzy: Oh wait, Ubuntu-eee is different from Eeebuntu
[19:47] <ASULutzy> TABASCO: http://www.ubuntu-eee.com/ click download now, and at the very bottom there are two links (one for a Windows utility, the other for a linux)
[19:48] <xand_> ASULutzy: i want to 'ssh -x' FROM a bare install of ubuntu server, TO a openssh serverwhich is where it's supposed to have the openssh-sever
[19:48] <ASULutzy> TABASCO: Ah, I misread, I'm not sure which tutorial you followed, but I always used lilo for my live-USB setups, but it's been a while since I set one up manually since a lot of the stuff is automated now. You could just use System -> Administration ->Create USB startup disk
[19:48] <ircer> anyone have demonoid accaunt?
[19:49] <ASULutzy> TABASCO: That will automatically convert an iso into a bootable live-usb
[19:49] <ASULutzy> xand_: I misread, so do sudo apt-get install ssh
[19:49] <ASULutzy> xand_: Or do you even need to do that?
[19:49] <ASULutzy> xand_: Oh wait, you don't have X on Ubuntu Server
[19:50] <xand_> ASULutzy: yes now were talking :)
[19:50] <ASULutzy> xand_: If you want a GUI... Why did you install Ubuntu Server?
[19:50] <Flannel> xand_: You need to have xserver-xorg installed
[19:50] <ircer> how to get good font appearance in ubuntu?
[19:50] <ASULutzy> xand_: You'll need to install X, which means you ought to have installed Ubuntu instead of Ubuntu server ;)
[19:50] <mmcr> Anyone knows what version of python comes included in Intrepid ?
[19:50] <mmcr> 2.6 ?
[19:51] <onetinsoldier> mmc: i don't think so.. hang on
[19:51] <ardchoille> !font | ircer
[19:51] <Flannel> !info python intrepid | mmcr
[19:51] <mmcr> ok
[19:51] <CntryTrousrTrout> Does anyone know what yahoo/linux based programs support webcam?
[19:51] <mmcr> 2.5.2
[19:51] <mmcr> :S
[19:51] <onetinsoldier> 2.5.2-1ubuntu1
[19:51] <DarkKnight> ASULutzy; someone suggested using aptoncd
[19:51] <DarkKnight> kk
[19:51] <IdleSanta> 2.5.2-1ubuntu1 0
[19:51] <DarkKnight> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6424975#post6424975
[19:51] <TABASCO> ASULutzy: I used usb-creator for the stick - but it still does not work.
[19:52] <mmcr> It looks like I will have to compile 2.6.1
[19:52] <Flannel> mmcr: Why?
[19:52] <TABASCO> ASULutzy: Though, I already got it working, when I installed Ubuntu Eee on the stick.
[19:52] <ASULutzy> DarkKnight: You should take a look at ltsp.org
[19:52] <ASULutzy> DarkKnight: That might be a better model for what you're trying to accomplish
[19:52] <onetinsoldier> mmc: yeah.. that version is just too new for 'distributions' to be installing onto their versions of 'stable'
[19:52] <mmcr> Flannel: Because 2.5 it's not good for me.
[19:53] <mmcr> I can't use some functions that I need to.
[19:53] <actafool> how can i enable the 3D box on ubuntu
[19:53] <mmcr> I mean even under testing can be included but nothing :S
[19:53] <onetinsoldier> mmc: for instance.. you might find the version in debian 'unstable' or 'experimental' ..probably the latter
[19:53] <ASULutzy> DarkKnight: Also the last person who posted said some helpful things
[19:53] <onetinsoldier> that*
[19:53] <actafool> to watch my desktops like cube
[19:53] <ardchoille> !compiz | actafool
[19:53] <Flannel> mmcr: Just remember you'll have to keep 2.5 installed
[19:54] <xand_> ASULutzy, Flannel: installed xserver-xorg, still not working, complaining about no display
[19:54] <onetinsoldier> mmcr: for instance.. you might find that version in debian 'unstable' or 'experimental' ..probably the latter
[19:54] <ASULutzy> xand_: Er, right, because you need to have a display started
[19:54] <xand_> ASULutzy, Flannel: by the way got xauth installed as well
[19:54] <xand_> ASULutzy: how can i do that ?
[19:55] <hotdog003> Hey, I got a question about LiveCDs and casper. In the live environment, how come /cow is listed in /proc/mounts, but it doesn't exist?
[19:55] <actafool> ok now only one problem is now with this fucking screen ZZzzZZing..
[19:55] <Pici> actafool: Please watch your language here.
[19:55] <actafool> ok sry
[19:55] <ASULutzy> sudo get rid of Ubuntu Server and install Ubuntu :) Otherwise you can just do X
[19:56] <g0bl1n> s/a/
[19:56] <actafool> anyway can someone help meh because this is so annoyng..
[19:57] <ASULutzy> actafool: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[19:57] <onetinsoldier> actafool: have you had a look at the xset command?
[19:57] <actafool> no no i mean
[19:57] <actafool> for my screen shacking
[19:57] <ASULutzy> actafool: Then after that you can just go to system -> preferences -> compiz config settings manager, and fiddle with stuff from there
[19:57] <xand_> ASULutzy: :/
[19:57] <actafool> nope this..
[19:57] <ASULutzy> actafool: What does shaking mean? Flickering?
[19:58] <reehan> can anyone please guide me how do i get to the irc for linux kernel?
[19:58] <actafool> actually it moving left and right for a moment
[19:58] <actafool> and then is okay again
[19:58] <actafool> like a flashlight
[19:58] <xand_> ASULutzy: guess you're right..unfortunatly it can't be done on this one due to hardware restrictions..
[19:58] <xand_> ASULutzy: thank you anyway :)
[19:58] <Sanctusorium> Hey ya all.  My brother opened an email last night that sounds like it had a virus in it and Vista wont boot.  Is there anything on the ubuntu live disc that can scan the Windows install and try to fix it?
[19:59] <actafool> ?!
[19:59] <CntryTrousrTrout> mmm
[19:59] <CntryTrousrTrout> is this going to be an all day thing.. I know someone atleast knows a yes or a no
[19:59] <CntryTrousrTrout> simple as that
[19:59] <CntryTrousrTrout> Does anyone know what yahoo/linux based programs support webcam?
[20:00] <ASULutzy> Sanctusorium: Yea, there's a button that says install Ubuntu, and then you pick the option "Use entire disk"
[20:00] <onetinsoldier> actafool: sounds like it could be an Horizsync value in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file issue.. i dunno tho
[20:00] <pdtpatri1k> Hi Sanctusorium .. on the live cd u can install clamav or some other open source anti virus and scan the computer .. and other live cd that might be of help is knoppix or UBCD (ultimate boot cd)
[20:00] <Slack_> anyone here use a tv for their monitor, im trying to get audio to come out of the tv
[20:00] <Sanctusorium> pdtpatri1k  Thank you! :D
[20:01] <pdtpatri1k> ur welcome .. :)
[20:01] <actafool> idk 2 but its so annoyng
[20:01] <ASULutzy> Sanctusorium, pdtpatri1k: My solution was a permanent fix, but I suppose that'll work too
[20:01] <Abaza> Hiiii
[20:02] <pdtpatri1k> Asulutzy .. the idea is that his brother likes windows instead and its obvious he wants to stay with it if he is trying to fix it. :)
[20:02] <starcannon> Is there an ubuntu-centric irc channel about python or programming in general?
[20:02] <Deftone7> Trying to install ubuntu 8.10 by shrinking my vista volume. I was under the impression that it would just be unallocated space but the partitioner in ubuntu 8.10 doesn't recognize the unallocated space?!
[20:02] <ASULutzy> starcannon: /join #python I'm guessing ;)
[20:02] <Bodsda> starcannon, #ubuntu-programming
[20:03] <starcannon> ASULutzy yeah I have, but not quite what I'm looking for
[20:03] <Sanctusorium> ASULutzy, yeah, problem is windows wont even boot ;)  Plus, hes not going to like Linux.  xD  Even ubuntu is kinda technical for him
[20:03] <starcannon> Bodsda thanks thats what I'm looking for
[20:03] <Bodsda> welcome
[20:03] <Ghoul> is there a gui application that will help identify and setup a external monitor?
[20:03] <ASULutzy> Ghoul: grandr
[20:03] <Ghoul> i've hooked up a second monitor to my current ubuntu hardy
[20:04] <Ghoul> now it just duplicates the output.. see the same thing on both monitors
[20:04] <ASULutzy> Ghoul: sudo apt-get install grandr && grandr
[20:04] <Ghoul> ASULutzy: thnx. lets see about grandr
[20:04] <Ghoul> :)
[20:04] <Deftone7> Trying to install ubuntu 8.10 by shrinking my vista volume. I was under the impression that it would just be unallocated space but the partitioner in ubuntu 8.10 doesn't recognize the unallocated space?!
[20:05] <TABASCO> ASULutzy: I'm trying it with unetbootin now
[20:05] <ScarEye> Hey guys is there a way when I plug in my EVDO Card it will automatically sdparm that device ?
[20:05] <actafool> ok ok whats the button combinations to start this cube :)
[20:05] <Ghoul> ASULutzy: why do i add && grandr?
[20:05] <Ghoul> isn't apt-get install grandr enough?
[20:05] <ASULutzy> Ghoul: I was just saving you the time of getting it started
[20:05] <pdtpatri1k> defton7 .. ubuntu will notice the ntfs partition and u can then drag the slider to choose how much space u want to use for ubuntu partition and then afterwards it will install grub boot loader so u can dual boot :)
[20:06] <ASULutzy> yea, apt-get install grandr installs it, you can just run grandr regularly after that
[20:06] <Ghoul> ah ok, well i'm a bit new to this,, was wondering what && was doING
[20:06] <Ghoul> :)
[20:06] <masom> Hi, i'm trying to find instructions/docs on HAL, mostly about USB drives and where it's mounting them. Any pointers?
[20:06] <ASULutzy> Ghoul: command1 && command2 means do command2 IFF command2 finishes ok
[20:06] <qcjn2> hi, i'm on a puppy live cd right now, wanted to check out de hd, of a computer. Can i reinstall ubuntu from here ?
[20:06] <Bodsda> Ghoul, <command> && <commmand> means if the first command is successfull il run the second command else il quit
[20:06] <Deftone7> pdtpatri1k: do don't shrink it? just add a new partition?
[20:06] <ardchoille> actafool: ctrl+alt+drag
[20:06] <Ghoul> thanks guys :)
[20:06] <Deftone7> *so
[20:06] <actafool> ty
[20:06] <actafool> oh so kewl :D
[20:07] <iShock> Xubuntu 8.10, my digital camera isn't seeming to be read. Any fixes?
[20:08] <pdtpatri1k> Deftone7 .. no exit the installation and then reboot .. this time when u get the installation screen.. it will show the two partitions, one for vista which will be highlighted in orange on the left and then ubuntu on the right.. so u can then drag the slider and that would give you the percentage that would be shared between the two partitions
[20:08] <iShock> Xubuntu 8.10, my digital camera isn't seeming to be read. Any fixes?
[20:08] <pdtpatri1k> defton7 another thing you can do is used Gparted Live CD and create your ext3 partitions and then load the linux CD and use those partitions u created to install the system :)
[20:08] <wp_> what is the command for running a .run file in the terminal... found this link while searching https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingRunPackage but I need to run the program in superuser mode
[20:08] <Deftone7> the livecd doesn't recognize any partitions at all though
[20:09] <Deftone7> it's completely blank and gparted doesn't recognize it either
[20:09] <Bodsda> wp_, use           sudo <command>
[20:09] <wp_> yes... i know, but i need the command to run the .run file
[20:09] <wp_> can't find it with google
[20:09] <ASULutzy> wp_: chmod +x /the/file.run
[20:09] <ASULutzy> wp_: or alternatively do sudo sh /the/file.run
[20:10] <slavko> alguien me puede ayudar quiero comparti internet con cable cruzado entre ubuntu y windows
[20:10] <Pici> !br | slavko
[20:10] <pdtpatri1k> deftone7 yet you can boot off the drive and vista loads fine? run chkdsk -f on the drive and then chckdsk -r and then properly shutdown and then load Gparted again and see what happens
[20:10] <wp_> ASULutzy: I will try the latter one... the first one makes the .run file run in super all the time?
[20:10] <iShock> Pici: br?
[20:10] <ardchoille> !es | slavko
[20:10] <ASULutzy> wp_: No, the first one makes the file executable
[20:10] <dro> Anyone have a better recommendation for an IRC client than XChat? Preferably a client that lets you sort by room name / members in room / title...
[20:10] <Pici> iShock: I couldn't remember if argentina spoke Spanish or Portuguese.
[20:10] <ASULutzy> wp_: and is the correct way imo, make it executable and then you can just do sudo /the/file.run
[20:11] <masom> dro: irssi :)
[20:11] <iShock> Pici, so br is portuguese?
[20:11] <Deftone7> yes vista loads fine it's just when i use the livecd to run the installer i have not one partition it recognizes...will try chkdsk -f and chcdsk -r right now
[20:11] <dro> Brazil is the only country in S. America that speaks Portugese, if I remember correctly.
[20:11] <iShock> Annnnnnyway Pici, what's keeping Xubuntu from reading my camera?
[20:11] <hdz> How do i disable overburn in brasero
[20:11] <pdtpatri1k> deftone7 does it show the partitions as blank? or does it show the harddrive as blank?
[20:12] <wp_> ASULutzy the "sudo sh file.run" worked fine... had tryed making it executeable and just type the name, but did not do anything....
[20:12] <iShock> wp_: If you chmod +x file, use ./file
[20:12] <Pici> iShock: Any information in dmesg?
[20:12] <ASULutzy> wp_: Then you did it wrong
[20:12] <iShock> Pici, not much that I see about it.
[20:12] <hdz> How do i disable overburn in brasero
[20:13] <iShock> Pici, if I had to guess..
[20:13] <iShock> [153733.576052] usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5
[20:13] <iShock> [153733.803412] usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[20:13] <iShock> pici?
[20:14] <wp_> ASULuyzy: probably ;) but thank you for the help
[20:14] <zloog> Hi, I'm running 8.04 and I have just got a new bluetooth keyboard and usb bluetooth dongle for my desktop. I've been able to pair my keyboard to my phone as well as see my usb bluetooth dongle on my phone, but does anyone know how to pair my keyboard to my usb dongle? Thanks
[20:14] <alperyilmaz> anybody here installed ubuntu on a RAID array?
[20:14] <alperyilmaz> partitioner does not see the array
[20:15] <Pici> iShock: Are you expecting for it to mount the devices for you or just to make the devices available.
[20:15] <ASULutzy> alperyilmaz: I converted an existing and running Linux install to a RAID-1 remotely :) That was fun ;)
[20:15] <iShock> Pici, I was hoping it'd mount it so I could st33l teh pix off it.
[20:15] <ASULutzy> alperyilmaz: Hardware or software raid?
[20:15] <ASULutzy> also brb
[20:16] <alperyilmaz> hardware. nVidia MCP55
[20:16] <Pipe> famg_ginghotmail.com
[20:16] <Pipe> alguien habla español
[20:16] <ASULutzy> alperyilmaz: I don't have much experience with hardware raid setups in Ubuntu, I always did software with mdadm
[20:16] <TABASCO> ASULutzy: That was a great hint, the page of ubuntu-eee. It worked fine now with unetbootin, which is recommenced there...
[20:16] <nick_> anyone care to help install a GTK theme?
[20:16] <ardchoille> !es | Pipe
[20:16] <Pici> !es | Pipe
[20:17] <hdz> How do i disable overburn in brasero
[20:17] <hdz> burning program in ubuntu
[20:17] <alperyilmaz> ASULutzy: BIOS shows that array is build and ready. But when I use livecd to install, partitioner sees the drives individually, not as an array
[20:17] <Pici> iShock: I don't remember if Xubuntu is running the appropriate daemons to automount hardware.  Is there a /dev/ listed in dmesg when you plug in the camera?
[20:17] <Pici> alperyilmaz: I believe you need to use the alternate CD if you are installing on a RAID.
[20:17] <Pici> !raid
[20:18] <fares> hello, I'm seeking help setting up my logitech camera on ubuntu intrepid
[20:18] <iShock> Pici, no :(
[20:18] <fares> the camera shows up in lsusb
[20:18] <fares> but no corresponding /dev/video* device
[20:18] <hdz> How do i disable overburn in brasero
[20:18] <alperyilmaz> thanks Pici.. let me try alternate cd
[20:18] <ardchoille> !repeat | hdz
[20:18] <hdz> sorry
[20:19] <qcjn2> i have to reinstall. A computer that i use as a server. have any suggestion, or i ll just reinstall ubuntu 8.04n
[20:19] <ardchoille> hdz: if you don't get an answer here, you can always post to http://ubuntuforums.org
[20:19] <ASULutzy> TABASCO: Glad to hear it
[20:20] <Ghoul> umm, grandr only displays one output monitor :(
[20:20] <iShock> Pici?
[20:20] <Ghoul> weird; i have the ouput duplicated.. how does the 2nd monitor even work right now
[20:20] <Ghoul> it's not been officially recognized
[20:21] <ASULutzy> alperyilmaz: from the wiki: Real hardware raid systems are very rare, and are almost always provided by a card such as a PCI card. Your hardware will need kernel level support in order to work with Ubuntu. You can find out if is is supported without much work by booting a Live CD. Your array should be visible as a scsi block device and, if it has existing partitions and file systems, mountable.
[20:22] <Pici> iShock: I'm sorry, something has come up at work here that I need to attend to.  You may want to re-ask the question so that someone else can take care of you.  Sorry.
[20:22] <alperyilmaz> ASULutzy: so the card is not supported, then...
[20:22] <iShock> This is why helping @ work is bad ...
[20:22] <iShock> Xubuntu 8.10, my digital camera isn't seeming to be read. Any fixes?
[20:23] <ASULutzy> alperyilmaz: Apparently not, but those wiki articles can be helpful, and a software raid isn't hard to setup
[20:23] <ardchoille> iShock: what's the make/model of your digi cam? I wanna check the hcl
[20:23] <iShock> ardchoille: All I know for sure is it's a Digital Concepts
[20:23] <iShock> 3.1 megapixels
[20:23] <alperyilmaz> thanks ASULutzy..
[20:25] <ardchoille> iShock: the digi cam setion of the hcl is incomplete :(
[20:25] <cooldude127> does anybody know how to configure xorg.conf to use a different keyboard layout (say dvorak or colemak)
[20:25] <ardchoille> iShock: perhaps this page can help tho:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[20:25] <iShock> ardchoille: :( It's a Digital Concepts 89379-Z
[20:26] <ScottG489> Maybe I came into this whole linux thing with the wrong idea, but isn't it suppose to not really freeze up or crash as much as windows?
[20:27] <GT> How would I set up a crossover connection between two Ubuntu PCs, one of which has two NICs?
[20:27] <GT> I've got some big files I need to transfer from my laptop to my desktop.
[20:27] <ScottG489> I mean ive been using it for under a week and its just as bad. It hasnt crashedd as much as my windows machine but it seems to freeze up a lot. Is there a way I can free it up when it seems to freeze?
[20:28] <captainm> cooldude127: if you're using gnome you should be able to go to System > Preferences > Keyboard and change it there
[20:28] <jimcooncat> ScottG489: Your Mileage May Vary, especially with flaky hardware.
[20:29] <agampher> ScottG489: if your Windoze box crashed that much, sounds like a hardware problem, especially since a week old install of Ubuntu is having the same problem
[20:29] <jimcooncat> ScottG489: Neither Ubuntu nor Windows should be crashing.
[20:29] <ScottG489> jimcooncat: Well its a new Studio 15 Laptop. Its froze multiple times in the past 24 hours
[20:29] <agampher> what he said ^
[20:29] <ScottG489> agampher: No my windows machine is on my PC. Im on a new laptop now.
[20:29] <ScottG489> PC = WIndows, Laptop = Ubuntu
[20:30] <c4pt> hello
[20:30] <c4pt> i am having a problem getting modprobe bcm43xx to work
[20:30] <c4pt> i tried depmod -a
[20:30] <c4pt> and modprobe ndiswrapper
[20:30] <c4pt> after doing ndiswrapper -i bcm.inf (the linksys wmp300n driver)
[20:30] <guntbert> !enter
[20:31] <ScottG489> Ive just gotten used to my windows machine crashing about everyday. Maybe thats because i leave it on 24/7 which is an unrealistic goal i should have for a windows machine
[20:31] <jimcooncat> ScottG489: Sorry for your troubles. Try the LiveCD and see if you have same problems to eliminate bad install and hard drive problems. If persists, get Studio 15 on the case.
[20:32] <nintendork32> !boost
[20:32] <c4pt> !bcm43xx
[20:32] <ScottG489> I cant just keep assuming its hardware problems. Ill drive myself insain. I have problems with every computer I use. No computer ive had has ever ran with even minimal problems.
[20:32] <Daz> http://www.anonimowosc.com/index.php?q=uggc%3A%2F%2Ffghqrapxvuhzbe.cy%2Fenaxvat.cuc%3Fvq%3D5791&hl=2f9
[20:32] <ndlovu> hi all. I have an archos external hard drive / mp3 player, and it mounts read-only on hardy. any idea how to get it to mount rw?
[20:33] <jimcooncat> ScottG489: I had an IT manager with the same problem. He was in the wrong line of work. We all figured he was a static electricity generator, and tried to ground him.
[20:34] <ScottG489> jimcooncat: Well every computer will have to spontaneously combust as soon as I touch them before I decide to find another line of work. I still love computers.
[20:35] <ScottG489> I got KDE installed btw. Will ubuntu boot up saying its Kubuntu every time now?
[20:36] <Taranath> Hey, I was just wondering if any one knows of a guide to setting up alsa/pulseaudio on an Ubuntu Server Install. Aka Gnome'less
[20:36] <ScottG489> Like the spash screen.
[20:36] <Flare183> How can I get the option of connecting to a secure WebDAV site using "Connect to Server"?
[20:36] <MrWindex> anyone got a good site for gnome themes?
[20:36] <Tidus> Taranath: should be as easy as 'apt-get install pulseaudio
[20:37] <Tidus> MrWindex: http://www.gnome-look.org
[20:37] <GT> How would I set up a crossover connection between my laptop and my desktop, both of which have Ubuntu and the latter of which has two NICs? I have the cable; I wired it myself in computer repair class.
[20:37] <TyGRuS> hey guys, what do you use for search on ubuntu similar to the windows live search? I have found google desktop search
[20:37] <TyGRuS> is google desktop search a good one for ubuntu or is there something else?
[20:38] <Taranath> Tidus: I did that but am having some problems, No sound coming out of speakers although I was getting an output from 'pavmeter' (I think that was the name of it) when I was playing audio
[20:38] <Flare183> !desktopsearch | TyGRuS
[20:38] <TyGRuS> thanks
[20:38] <Flare183> TyGRuS: np
[20:38] <TyGRuS> you use any of those yourself?
[20:39] <Tidus> Taranath: your speakers hooked up to the correct output and you've unmuted the card with alsamixer?
[20:39] <Taranath> Yes and yes
[20:39] <Flare183> TyGRuS: Yeap, I use Tracker
[20:39] <TyGRuS> cool
[20:39] <Flare183> MrWindex: A good theme site is: http://www.gnome-look.org
[20:39] <Tidus> Taranath: and you've turned the volume up from within pulseaudio itself?
[20:40] <Taranath> How would one do that...
[20:40] <lianimator> why do skype and vlc tray icons not update the transparent part?? anyone one else see the problem?
[20:40]  * Gnea wonders why themes from www.gnome-look.org say that they install correctly, yet never show up in the theme list...
[20:40] <Tidus> Taranath: pulseaudio has its own volume control app
[20:40] <tony_> how do i change the screen resolution on the welcome screen
[20:40] <Tidus> can't remember the name....
[20:41] <agampher> ScottG489: sorry, got called away for a second
[20:41] <Taranath> Tidus: Just having a quick look for name
[20:41] <Flare183> Gnea: Its because you didn't install it correctly
[20:41] <agampher> ScottG489: i leave my windows machine (vista 64, even) on 24/7 and it doesn't crash. Perhaps there is something wrong with some software you are installing, or another setting that is causing errors?
[20:41] <onetinsoldier> Gnea: i've only installed a few themes so far. all but one has shown up for me and worked so far
[20:41] <MrWindex> what exactly are these .emerald themes?
[20:42] <ziro`_> how can i prevent a user from deleteing a folder but still write to it?
[20:42] <Flare183> !emerald | MrWindex
[20:42] <Flare183> umm
[20:42] <Flare183> !compiz | MrWindex
[20:42] <Gnea> Flare183: I went to System->Preferences->Appearance, then in the Theme tab, I clicked on the 'Install' button, selected the downloaded tar.bz2 file, and it said that it installed correctly.
[20:42] <GT> How would I set up a crossover connection between my laptop and my desktop, both of which have Ubuntu and the latter of which has two NICs? I have the cable; I wired it myself in computer repair class.
[20:42] <robinpahwa> I m having problem in playing my MP3 in totem, it says Failed to connect stream: Invalid argument - anybody has any Idea ?
[20:42] <kalel> ciao
[20:42] <Flare183> Gnea: About that, some themes must be installed manually
[20:42] <kalel> !it
[20:42] <Tidus> !restricted | robinpahwa
[20:42] <Gnea> Flare183: I see...
[20:43] <captainm> robinpahwa: have you installed ubuntu extras?
[20:43] <tony_>  how do i change the screen resolution on the welcome screen
[20:43] <Flare183> GT: Do you mean internet connection sharing?
[20:43] <ScottG489> agampher: Ive had the computer for a few years and formatted it at least 4 times. Each time its no better
[20:43] <onetinsoldier> Gnea: yes. i had one that i had to... unpack... configure it.. then repack it
[20:43] <robinpahwa> captainm: Extras means ?
[20:43] <GT> Flare183: Nope, I need to transfer files between the two devices.
[20:43] <Gnea> onetinsoldier: that won't do. they need to be configured correctly from the start.
[20:43] <vibemanslim> Has anyont ever had an issue where apache, ssh, ftp stop working 10 mins after reboot
[20:43] <Taranath> Tidus: Looked up program name and the volume is not turned down and is not muted
[20:43] <GT> Flare183: Pretty big ones.
[20:44] <agampher> ScottG489: well, i suppose that's a whole different issue. have you tried multiple distros on the laptop?
[20:44] <ScottG489> agampher: My old computer (which is now a debian server) was the same way. Before I shut it down because i was too busy with school, it had been running Debian straight for about 80 days
[20:44] <Flare183> GT: Well you still need some kind of hub in order to do that
[20:44] <Tidus> Taranath: hm... have you got the default alsa sink configured properly?
[20:44] <vibemanslim> Has anyont ever had an issue where apache, ssh, ftp stop working 10 mins after reboot
[20:44] <jimcooncat> GT, you'll need to assign static IP's; like 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.2
[20:44] <Tidus> as in any program that tries to use alsa gets "sank" by pulse?
[20:44] <Tidus> that way it'll intercept the sound?
[20:44] <ScottG489> agampher: no just ubuntu for now. I eventually want to get into gentoo but I want to start on something simpler for now
[20:44] <robinpahwa> captainm: hello ???
[20:44] <GT> Flare183: Really? I thought that was pretty much what a crossover was for...
[20:45] <onetinsoldier> Gnea: it's the way the theme was made to be installed tho.. the theme has quite a number of different options... so you configure the options to the way you like, then repack it. that was explained before even downloading it
[20:45] <Flare183> !enter | Tidus
[20:45] <captainm> robinpahwa: in a terminal type: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:45] <tony_> fuck u people then don't help
[20:45] <Flare183> !language | tonisius
[20:45] <Flare183> oops
[20:45] <Tidus> Flare183: don't !enter me, had a reason for it
[20:45] <onetinsoldier> he's gone
[20:45] <vibemanslim> Has anyont ever had an issue where apache, ssh, ftp stop working 10 mins after reboot
[20:45] <Flare183> hehe I got his ip anyway
[20:45] <onetinsoldier> roger
[20:45] <Flare183> Tidus: Sorry
[20:46] <agampher> ScottG489: is it always failing during the same process, or is it random
[20:46] <ScottG489> I might get attacked for this, but how do I get that cool 3D box effect for changing workspaces? Is it built into ubuntu or is it some sort of add-on?
[20:46] <Taranath> Tidus: How would I know if I have got it configured correctly?
[20:46] <Flare183> !compiz | ScottG
[20:46] <ScottG489> agampher: The windows machine or the ubuntu one?
[20:46] <agampher> ScottG489: Compiz
[20:46] <agampher> ScottG489: Ubuntu
[20:46]  * Flare183 mumbles stupid tab complete
[20:46] <Tidus> Taranath: it's been so long since i've messed with pulseaudio that i'm unsure of what stuff to look for in the config file
[20:46] <guntbert> !repeat | vibemanslim
[20:46] <Taranath> Tidus: Ok, Thankyou any way. Will continue my googling.
[20:47] <Flare183> brb
[20:47] <Tidus> Flare183: that's because you've got an itchy trigger finger with the !commands
[20:47] <lianimator> icons not refreshing: http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?241cff5383.png
[20:47] <GT> jimcooncat: Do I need to set anything for the gateway address?
[20:47] <robinpahwa> captainm: It needs ubuntu CD ... what if dont have it rt now
[20:47] <Tidus> Taranath: sorry i can't be of more help, i'm currently attempting to rescue my own system at the moment, lol
[20:47] <ndlovu> I asked this a bit earlier but my connection dropped before I saw an answer... I have an external usb harddrive that's mounting root writable only. any idea how to tell it (and usb drives generally) to mount user writable?
[20:47] <jimcooncat> GT, no, leave it blank if you can I believe
[20:47] <Taranath> Tidus: lol, Good luck!
[20:48] <jimcooncat> GT been a long time since I did that
[20:48] <canthus13> Anyone know why my scroll bar on my touchpad would suddenly stop working?
[20:48] <Tidus> GT: uninstall networkmanager, then apt-get install dnsmasq ipmasq
[20:48] <ScottG489> agampher: Well usually when im switching graphic areas. Off the top of my head it has frozen: Right after I increased the visual effects (though im on full visual effects now and its fine) when I tried to change to the virtual terminal, just before when I tried to switch users to try out kubuntu.
[20:49] <Tidus> make sure you have your networking config set properly in the network interfaces file, and those two programs should set up a small gateway for you
[20:49] <jimcooncat> Tidus: do you still have to uninstall networkmanager to use static IP's? I was hoping they fixed that
[20:49] <GT> Tidus: Somehow, that doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
[20:49] <canthus13> Feh. It'll be faster to just restart x.
[20:49] <Tidus> jimcooncat: you have to remove it to do any advanced networking like setting up a gateway
[20:49] <Tidus> GT: it's about the only way you could do it
[20:50] <GT> Tidus: That's the only way I can set up a crossover between two Ubuntu PCs?
[20:50] <theAdib> Hello, I have a dual monitor setup. I sthere any hotkey to move a window from one monitor to the other? I only found Ctrl+Alt+shift+right that moves the window to other DESKTOP. :-O
[20:50] <Tidus> GT: unfortunately, yes
[20:50] <ScottG489> agampher: None of these problems are persistant, they all happen randomly. The only persistant problem im having is when I change the brightness through the keyboard shortcut. I change it and the little brightness window comes up and doesnt go away, then my keyboard ceases to work. I found a temportary fix to this by going into the virtual terminal then leaving. Though I think doing this has caused the laptop to freeze at
[20:50] <ScottG489> least once.
[20:50] <Kuba> faces via gdm doesn't work for me - none avatar is shown, the list is empty (8.04)
[20:50] <GT> Tidus: Hmmm. I'm gonna try this first.
[20:50] <Tidus> GT: it's not very hard at all, just one config file (man interfaces), then install those two scripts
[20:50] <jimcooncat> GT, it's no biggie. but you don't need dnsmasq for a temporary transfer.
[20:51] <Tidus> jimcooncat: if he needs internet access or a dhcp server, he will :P
[20:51] <robinpahwa> captainm: can i install it without a cd
[20:52] <ScottG489> agampher: you still here?
[20:52] <captainm> robinpahwa: no problem. Type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list in a terminal and type a pound (#) sign for the lign that starts with "deb cdrom" then make sure all the pound signs before the other that start with "deb" are removed and save the file
[20:52] <GT> Tidus: I don't need internet access. Both PCs have either two NICs or one NIC and a wireless connection, unless a wireless connection counts as an NIC, in which case, they both have two NICs.
[20:52] <Tidus> GT: so you're looking for a simple bridge between the two machines to transfer files?
[20:53] <GT> Tidus: Yup!
[20:53] <Tidus> are they on separate networks?
[20:53] <agampher> ScottG489: yes, but i'm having a hard time coming up with something that's not related to hardware in some way, short of actually being a bug. when i do the same thing on my machine it acts normally.
[20:53] <captainm> robinpahwa: then try the above comman again (sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras)
[20:53] <GT> Tidus: Nope.
[20:53] <c4pt> hello
[20:53] <ardchoille> I normally just plug both machines into a router and then mount one in the other, serves as a transfer bridge
[20:53] <Tidus> just use their current network connections then
[20:53] <agampher> ScottG489: drivers, perhaps, but i suppose that's a standard "i dunno" answer
[20:53] <c4pt> how can i remap eth1 to wlan0?
[20:53] <ScottG489> agampher: well like i said none of them happen consistently.
[20:53] <GT> Tidus: Well, there's some funny stuff in between the two PCs... I haven't really figured out how to do that.
[20:53] <c4pt> and how can i put my bcm43xx wireless card into mode monitor?
[20:54] <Tidus> explain 'funny stuff'
[20:54] <Kuba> did my faces-related question seem clear?
[20:54] <ConstantineXVI> Is Tkinter a decent GUI toolkit besides the part about looking ancient?
[20:54] <ScottG489> agampher: A quick question. A habbit I have gotten into from my windows machine is to just hold down the power button to turn it off when something freezes up. What kind if problems does holding down the power button create?
[20:54] <Tidus> ScottG489: it can damage your filesystems
[20:54] <agampher> ScottG489: massive chaos on a global scale
[20:54] <ScottG489> lol
[20:55] <agampher> ScottG489: seriously, what other way is there once everything dies on you?
[20:55] <ScottG489> Well what sort of problems does that create for me?
[20:55] <Tidus> ScottG489: when a single program freezes? or the whole thing hard-locks
[20:55] <c4pt> how can i remap eth1 to wlan0?
[20:55] <agampher> a hard-lock
[20:55] <Zzeiss> agampher: Well, if you can't get something like Program Manager to respond, well, yeah, you're stuck.
[20:56] <captainm> ScottG489: agampher this is a better merhod: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/reboot-or-halt-linux-system-in-emergency.html
[20:56] <ASULutzy> Do that many people not know about the vulvan nerve pinch on Linux?
[20:56] <ASULutzy> alt+sysrq+REISUB
[20:56] <ASULutzy> vulcan nerve pinch that is
[20:56] <ASULutzy> lol,
[20:56] <ScottG489> agampher: Well is there anything I can press to try to free up my system? I mean like I said before I had to hold down the power button when I was adjusting the brightness, but someone told me about the ctrl + alt + f1 thing and that helped
[20:56]  * Tidus just got thrown back into the windows 3.1 days...
[20:56] <Tidus> ASULutzy: lol... nice ... um ... misspelling
[20:56] <GT> Tidus: Well, due to a very odd layout in this house, my desktop connects to the network through a hub, which gets it's internet connection through a wireless access point, which gets its connection from the wireless router, which gets its connection from the modem.
[20:57] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: ctrl+alt+f1 sends you to tty1, where you can try and fix things, alternatively if things are really hosed up and you need a "safe" way to reboot, alt+sysrq+REISUB works
[20:57] <GT> And my laptop just picks up the wireless.
[20:57] <agampher> ScottG489: take a look at the link captainm posted, i've never seen it, but it looks interesting
[20:57] <ScottG489> Tidus: Well I guess knowing how to terminate single programs would help. Kinda like the task manager in windows. I usd to end processes all the time that pissed me off
[20:57] <Boohbah> ScottG489: yes login to the console and do 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[20:57] <Tidus> GT: if the laptop picks up the wireless from the access point then it should be on the same network segment as your desktop
[20:57] <ScottG489> oh ok thanks i missed that
[20:57] <ardchoille> ASULutzy: not many people know about that REISUB trick
[20:58] <Tidus> ScottG489: in a terminal window, you can try 'killall <programname>
[20:58] <onetinsoldier> yeah... what is REISUB?
[20:58] <ScottG489> ASULutzy: what keys are those? what is reisub and sysrq?
[20:58] <_moro_bana_> I just finished installing Ubuntu on a laptop, cant find my wifi-thigy, where should I look?help
[20:58] <GT> No, no, the access point is used as... I don't really know what it's called, but it just picks up the signal and relays it to the hub.
[20:58] <agampher> sysrq is print screen
[20:58] <ardchoille> onetinsoldier:  alt+sysrq+REISUB can safely reboot the system i case of system-wide freeze
[20:58] <ScottG489> tidus: well the thing is, in windows i was able to go the the task, right click on it to find out which process it was then terminate it. In linux its a little hard determining what the name of the process is
[20:58] <GodfatherofEire> Say, how would I go about changing the import quality of an mp3 in rhythmbox?
[20:59] <Tidus> GT: so it's a simple relay... and how is the 'hub' picking up the wireless signal?
[20:59] <GT> My laptop picks up the signal from a dedicated wireless router.
[20:59] <onetinsoldier> ScottG489: most keyboards have a Prt Scrn/SysRq key up top
[20:59] <c4pt> how would i be able to remap eth1 to wlan0? i am kind of stuck myself.
[20:59] <Tidus> ScottG489: it's always pretty simple to tell what process is froze
[20:59] <ScottG489> onetinsoldier: ahh print screen. ok., what is REISUB?
[20:59] <ScottG489> Tidus: what is that?
[20:59] <GT> The "access point" is wired to the hub. The "access point" picks up the wireless router's signal, and gives internet to the hub.
[20:59] <Tidus> if X freezes up, CTRL+ALT+backspace usually kills your graphical session and restarts the X server
[21:00] <ScottG489> yea ive used that before
[21:00] <GodfatherofEire> ScottG489, basically, its a backup for ctrl alt backspace or ctrl alt f1, only it reboots the whole system (usually)
[21:00] <BobPenguin> Hello guys. I did install ubuntu in some other box but I cant log in. I have google the problem and it seems the thing is the home folder is our of space. So I have booted in rescue mode and opened a command shell. I'm looking for something to erase to make up some space and was thinking about erasing the Examples directory. What command can I use to erase a folder and its contents?
[21:00] <jim_p> what is that wget parameter that sets a download speed cap?
[21:01] <Tidus> GT: ok... it sounds like it should 'just work'
[21:01] <GodfatherofEire> BobPenguin, rm -f
[21:01] <mikulak_> [
[21:01] <ScottG489> GodfatherofEire: Well someone said "alt+sysrq+REISUB", I'm just wondering what the REISUB key is.
[21:01] <mikulak_> p
[21:01] <mikulak_> p
[21:01] <BobPenguin> thanks GodFatherofEire!
[21:01] <FloodBot3> mikulak_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:01] <onetinsoldier> ardchoille: ok, let me be more precise... what is this REISUB key?
[21:01] <mikulak_> opp
[21:01] <GT> How should it "Just work?"
[21:01] <GT> How would I transfer these files the way things are set up now?
[21:01] <GodfatherofEire> ScottG489, its not one key, its a sequence of keys
[21:01] <agampher> i am wondering that as well, ScottG489
[21:01] <mikulak_> i m Polish
[21:02] <ScottG489> lol
[21:02] <Tidus> GT: either through NFS, samba, or scp
[21:02] <agampher> mikulak_, that explains it
[21:02] <agampher> haha
[21:02] <ScottG489> hold on let me try something. ill press alt+sysrq then type REISUB
[21:02] <Tidus> can the two machines access each other through ssh ?
[21:02] <robinpahwa> captainm: it always get stuck somewhere in middle
[21:02] <GT> Tidus: I don't know, I'm not even sure what SSH is yet. =/
[21:02] <onetinsoldier> oh wow! REISUB is a sequence of keys.. how obvious, how in the world could i have missed this!?!?
[21:02] <alfredo0815> jim_p, --limit-rate=20k  , for more see the manual ;)
[21:02] <Tidus> GT: Secure Shell Server
[21:02] <ScottG489> nop lol
[21:03] <agampher> so REISUB is actually R E I S U B?
[21:03] <agampher> haha
[21:03] <ScottG489> no it isnt
[21:03] <ScottG489> i just tried
[21:03] <captainm> robinpahwa: what gets stuck? the install?
[21:03] <GT> Tidus: That doesn't help me.
[21:03] <agampher> haha
[21:03] <ScottG489> ill google it
[21:03] <Tidus> GT: try this on one of the machines. sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[21:04] <agampher> ScottG489: Holding down Alt and SysRq (which is the Print Screen key) while slowly typing REISUB will get you safely restarted. REISUO will do a shutdown rather than a restart.
[21:04] <onetinsoldier> yes.. everyone knows about Alt+SysRq+REISUB... how could they not know? lol
[21:04] <GT> Tidus: Couldn't i just set up this crossover, which I have some vague idea of how to do? =/
[21:04] <Tidus> then use the other and type this in a terminal: ssh (that machines ip address)
[21:04] <agampher> ScottG489: random googlefu
[21:04] <Tidus> GT: trust me, this would be the easier solution without having to completely hose your network configs
[21:04] <robinpahwa> captainm: yes
[21:04] <agampher> onetinsoldier: lol
[21:04] <robinpahwa> captainm: E: msttcorefonts: subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt)
[21:05] <agampher> ScottG489: slower this time then
[21:05] <omar> I am trying to install tor in my ubuntu
[21:05] <ardchoille> onetinsoldier: the keys R-E-I-S-U-B
[21:05] <robinpahwa> captainm: this installation of font is creating the installation to get stuck
[21:05] <onetinsoldier> agampher: hehe... :=)
[21:05] <ASULutzy> alt+syseq+REISUB REISUB is a sequence of keys, R-E-I-S-U-B, basically each alt+sysrq+letter is doing something different, the r sets the keyboard to raw input or something, long story short, it sends all processes term, then all processes kill, unmounts the file system, and then reboots, among other things
[21:05] <omar> tor packages is installed
[21:05] <omar> and privoxy also
[21:05] <GT> Tidus: Okay, it's the newest version already...
[21:05] <ScottG489> http://kember.net/articles/231/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart
[21:05] <ardchoille> ASULutzy: thank you :)
[21:05] <omar> also tor button is installed in firefox
[21:06] <agampher> ScottG489: yeah, thats the link I saw
[21:06] <omar> but tor is not working yet
[21:06] <omar> can you help me please
[21:06] <ScottG489> So I type R-E-I-S-U-B while im holding down alt+prnscrn?
[21:06] <agampher> ScottG489: learn something new everyday
[21:06] <agampher> ScottG489: i suppose, this is new to me
[21:06] <ardchoille> ScottG489: yes, but that is a sort of last resort
[21:06] <ScottG489> Is compiz just for KDE?
[21:07] <Tidus> GT: now open a terminal on the other machine, type this: ssh (ip address of the other computer), push enter
[21:07] <ardchoille> ScottG489: no
[21:07] <Tidus> should ask for your password
[21:07] <ScottG489> ardchoille: trust me i have plenty of last resorts, and im sure that that wont even work most of the time
[21:07] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: You may have to hold down alt+fn+printscreen, depending
[21:07] <onetinsoldier> First thing we have to do though.. is get the kernel to hang on us! now, how to do that.. let's see
[21:07] <robinpahwa> captainm: but package manager shows that ubuntu extras are installed
[21:07] <ScottG489> ok im gonna try it, if i suddenly leave you will know i got it
[21:07] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: Yes, that is the last resort, the only time that won't work is if the entire kernel has blown up
[21:07] <agampher> ScottG489: haha
[21:07] <GT> Tidus: ssh: connect to host (IP) port 22: Network is unreachable.
[21:07] <robinpahwa> captainm: Still the same erron on playing
[21:07] <Hangwire> Hey can anyone help me with rtorrent? where do i put the rtorrent.rc file????
[21:07] <BobPenguin> what command can I use to check free disk space?
[21:07] <onetinsoldier> BobPenguin: df -h
[21:07] <Tidus> GT: you sure you installed openssh-server on the other one?
[21:08] <BobPenguin> thanks onetinsoldier!
[21:08] <onetinsoldier> bobber205: yw
[21:08] <Tidus> and restored your network configs to the way they were before?
[21:08] <MrWindex> what's the easiest way to access shared files from a windows xp computer?
[21:08] <GodfatherofEire> Well, anyway, how would I go about changing the CD Import settings on intrepid so that it only rips at say, 128kbps instead of say 192kbps or higher?
[21:08] <GT> Tidus:
[21:08] <GT> Reading package lists... Done
[21:08] <GT> Building dependency tree
[21:08] <GT> Reading state information... Done
[21:08] <GT> openssh-server is already the newest version.
[21:08] <FloodBot3> GT: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:08] <GT> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
[21:08] <Hangwire> Hey can anyone help me with rtorrent? where do i put the rtorrent.rc file????
[21:08] <robinpahwa> I have intalled ubuntu extras still i could not play Mp3 files - anybody has Idea ?
[21:09] <onetinsoldier> GT: we get feeling of 'being there', lol
[21:09] <omar> what about tor on ubuntu
[21:09] <omar> plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[21:09] <GT> onetinsoldier: That's what I was going for.
[21:09] <onetinsoldier> GT: we are right there at your computer with you now...lol
[21:09] <ardchoille> !tor
[21:09] <canthus13> How would i rename my machine?
[21:09] <GodfatherofEire> !mp3
[21:09] <onetinsoldier> GT: haha
[21:09] <ScottG489> Ok yea its not working. holding down alt + printscreen is just opening up a bunch of save screenshot windows
[21:09] <captainm> robinpahwa: try just searching for "mp3" in add/remove and installing the gstreamer package that pops u
[21:09] <ScottG489> typing reisub isnt doing anything
[21:10] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: Hold down fn too
[21:10] <agampher> ScottG489: try alt-fn-prn
[21:10] <ScottG489> i did try that
[21:10] <ASULutzy> alt+fn+printscrn+REISUB
[21:10] <ScottG489> i tried like everything
[21:10] <c4pt> how can i remap eth1 to wlan0?
[21:10] <agampher> ScottG489: ah, well, all of your machines are FUBAR
[21:10] <ScottG489> and now fucking print screen windows wont stop poping up
[21:10] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: Don't let go of alt+printscreen+sysrq the whole time
[21:10] <onetinsoldier> ScottG489: i'mnot sure, but i think you actually have to have the kernel hang on you first.. that's why i typed the following in earlier...
[21:10] <ASULutzy> !language
[21:10] <onetinsoldier> First thing we have to do though.. is get the kernel to hang on us! now, how to do that.. let's see
[21:11] <agampher> ScottG489: haha, try alt-sysrq-FUBAR
[21:11] <ASULutzy> Don't do that, that doesn't give stuff time to clean up or sync, it'll just reboot once it hits B
[21:11] <ScottG489> well im not holding down alt and printscreen anymore because i have about 20 windows popuped up right now and i cant fucking type
[21:11] <robinpahwa> captainm: its already installed
[21:11] <agampher> it was a joke
[21:12] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: You could always switch to tty1 with ctrl+alt+f1 and put it in from there
[21:12] <captainm> robinpahwa: what are you trying to play the file with?
[21:12] <agampher> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FUBAR
[21:12] <BobPenguin> is there a command I can use to clean the trash folder? is there a command I can use to see hidden folders?
[21:12] <robinpahwa> captainm: totem
[21:12] <GT> Tidus: Also, I didn't make any changes to the configurations of the interfaces I usded to connect to this network with.
[21:12] <onetinsoldier> for the meaning of FUBAR watch Saving Private Ryan
[21:12] <agampher> that too
[21:12] <ks3> BobPenguin: In the file manager, type CTRL+H to show hidden files
[21:12] <GT> Tidus: On either of these machines.
[21:13] <dave_> Can somebody please assist me in settting up dual monitors?
[21:13] <captainm> robinpahwa: Have you tried any other files?
[21:13] <dave_> Please pM me to talk privately
[21:13] <dave_> I would greatly appreciate it
[21:13] <robinpahwa> yes many
[21:13] <BobPenguin> thanks ks3, I'm trying to fix a box and I cannot start gnome there, so I'm looking for a command I can use on the command shell
[21:13] <ASULutzy> agampher: I know what it means, I'm saying you shouldn't tell people to push buttons on their keyboard that you don't know what it'll do, even in jest... It'd be like telling  people to rm -rf random stuff and be like LOLJOKE DONT DO IT afterwards, it's just a bad idea
[21:13] <onetinsoldier> dave_: i hear that one tool to help do that is...  grandr
[21:13] <onetinsoldier> !grandr
[21:13] <ks3> BobPenguin: ls -a
[21:13] <ASULutzy> !info grandr
[21:13] <onetinsoldier> !info grandr
[21:13] <agampher> my bad
[21:13] <robinpahwa> captainm: Yes many, First it just played even i place my cursor over them
[21:13] <wyrmul> I am trying to resize an ntfs partition, sda1.  But it has a warning about being unable to read the contents of the file system.  if I mount the partition then gparted can see it just fine but I cannot resize it.  any thoughts?
[21:14] <lianimator> how do I make the default icon size smaller on the desktop?
[21:14] <dave_> Well I've heard that the bet to try is envyng
[21:14] <dave_> That's what most people use
[21:14] <BobPenguin> thanks ks3
[21:14] <GodfatherofEire1> Would somebody give me a hand with changing the import quality of a CD already? Sorry if I'm repeating myself, but my connection dropped
[21:14] <ASULutzy> dave_: If you have an ati or nvidia card you can try using envyng (it's not really for setting up dual monitors, it installs your card's drivers)
[21:14] <onetinsoldier> dave_: now, thats' to install video card drivers, at your won risk
[21:14] <onetinsoldier> own*
[21:15] <dave_> I have two monitors set up, the problem is that they both display the EXACT same thing, mouse, windows, everything
[21:15] <dave_> That's my problem. They both display so I know it should work
[21:15] <robinpahwa> captainm: I installed VLC player, and all the files are working fine there
[21:15] <ASULutzy> dave_: grandr should be able to help you, just uncheck mirror output and drag the monitors apart
[21:15] <deftone7> o.k I can't get the ubuntu live cd installer to recognize any partitions on my hard drive.....any ideas?
[21:15] <ScottG489> oh god help me
[21:15] <omar> plz I have a clear problem with tor
[21:15] <dave_> OK I will
[21:15] <ScottG489> the print screen windows are coming back
[21:15] <onetinsoldier> from what i've heard about envy-ng.. i wouldn't use it
[21:15] <omar> I installed the packages
[21:15] <ScottG489> there are like 30 of them open right now
[21:15] <ScottG489> how do i stop them from cming
[21:15] <omar> packages of tor & Privoxy
[21:16] <GT> ScottG489: Just wait for them to stop, andn close them all. I'm sorry they were messing with you.
[21:16] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: Switch to tty1 with ctrl+alt+f1 and then do alt+sysrq+fn+REISUB, that'll reboot ya
[21:16] <omar> and make some modifications and the following
[21:16] <omar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2702743
[21:16] <captainm> robinpahwa: could you try "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3"?
[21:16] <omar> but tor still not working
[21:16] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: Or just ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X
[21:16] <russianwizard> I'm having trouble installing a display driver. When ever I try to run the install script via root terminal it says 'pkginfo' could not be found, but pkginfo is right next to the setup script.
[21:16] <omar> can anybody help me step by step please
[21:16] <ASULutzy> GT: We weren't messing with him, that's a real way to safely restart Linux.
[21:16] <deftone7> anyone know why ubuntu partitioner will not recognize my hard drive or partitions??
[21:16] <five_> how do i drag and drop in virtualbox
[21:17] <ScottG489> GT: yea i kinda figured that.
[21:17] <robinpahwa> captainm: Didn't worked
[21:17] <GT> ASULutzy: I saw "messing with" going on, I'm pretty sure.
[21:17] <omar> no
[21:17] <ScottG489> GT: and i have waited for them to stop coming but then just show up again
[21:18] <ScottG489> GT: is there really any truth to the REISUB thing?
[21:18] <GT> ScottG489: Ctrl+At+Backspace WILL restart X, which would get rid of them.
[21:18] <ASULutzy> GT: alt+sysrq+REISUB is real.
[21:18] <onetinsoldier> yes.. it is real
[21:18] <ASULutzy> GT: Go google linux vulcan nerve pinch or something
[21:18] <GT> ScottG489: Honestly, I'm not sure what REISUB is.
[21:18] <oskar-> of course
[21:18] <dave_> onetinsoldier: How exactly do I use grandr?
[21:18] <ASULutzy> GT: you ought to be, it's the only way to safely restart a Linux box in certain situations
[21:19] <DarkSotM> just do a google for reisub and see
[21:19] <c4pt> !bcm43xx
[21:19] <ASULutzy> dave_: sudo apt-get install grandr && grandr
[21:19] <dave_> I know THAT, how do I configure it for two monitors
[21:19] <rockyrock> I can't boot! I get error 18 with GURB. I have a laptop with Windows and Ubuntu. Today i installed ubuntu 8.10 and i got that error immediately after the installation! So what to do???
[21:19] <deftone7> having trouble installing ubuntu 8.10
[21:19] <ASULutzy> GT, ScottG489: See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[21:20] <Ghoul> lol another fellow with 2 monitor problem
[21:20] <captainm> robinpahwa: The installation didn't work?
[21:20] <onetinsoldier> dave_: i don't know. i would think it would be fairly intuitive though. i hear it ia gui. i would try and help but i'm just a one monitor guy. although, i suppose i could still install it and check it out.
[21:20] <onetinsoldier> ia=is
[21:20] <GT> ScottG489: Just do Ctrl+Alt+Backspace.
[21:20] <hatter243> rockyrock, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77042.html
[21:20] <ScottG489> ASULutzy: yes but im only suppose to type that if my system has aparently frozen, not when its functioning normally?
[21:20] <ScottG489> gt: i think its fine now
[21:21] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: Yes
[21:21] <BobPenguin> I need to liberate some space from the main disk using a command line on a freshly superubuntu box. I was thinking about removing Open Office (I could reinstall it later). What command can I use to do that?
[21:21] <ijustam> is there a way to view sound devices from cmd line?
[21:21] <robinpahwa> captainm: I installed the file ... but it didn't helped me in playing my files
[21:21] <ScottG489> ASULutzy: well thanks for the heads up on that one......
[21:21] <Gnea> ijustam: cat /proc/asound/cards
[21:21] <markolonius> hey, i need some help.  i am trying to build qc-usb and it needs the kernel sources to be configured. when i do 'make old config && make prepare it gives me make[1]: *** No rule to make target `kernel/bounds.c', needed by `kernel/bounds.s'.  Stop.  anyway to get past this?
[21:21] <robinpahwa> captainm: Files are playing with VLC player witout ny errors
[21:21] <onetinsoldier> dave_: ok. i installed it and i now have it running
[21:21] <ijustam> Gnea: but that only gives hardware?
[21:21] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: It's not a normal way to restart, it's for if things break really badly, which is what you were talking about earlier. It's much better than holding the power button, which can potentially cause issues with the hard drive/filesystem
[21:21] <ijustam> is there a way to include software?
[21:21] <ijustam> i, for some reason, have 3 OSS devices
[21:21] <Gnea> ijustam: a soundcard is a piece of hardware.
[21:21] <robinpahwa> captainm: How this mouse over playing of Mp3 files works
[21:22] <Gnea> ijustam: then the cards file will tell you what those 3 devices are
[21:22] <bm> hello
[21:22] <simplenewb> How do I mount my cannon sd600 camera so i can write files to the SD card?
[21:22] <captainm> robinpahwa: robinpahwa are you using xine or gstreamer with totem?
[21:22] <dave_> onetinsoldier: Please use PM
[21:22] <iShock> Xubuntu 8.10 I need to detect and mount my digital camera, any help?
[21:22] <ScottG489> ASULutzy: ok well thanks ill try it next time my computer freezes up
[21:23] <ScottG489> Does anyone know if compiz is just for KDE or does it work in GNOME too?
[21:23] <bm> hello any one wanna chat
[21:23] <robinpahwa> captainm: yes i have installed gstreamer
[21:23] <Gnea> simplenewb: probably with libusb - not all of them show up as a mountable device, you need to use something like f-spot or gtkam to talk to the device through libusb
[21:23] <jerre> ScottG489: it works for gnome too
[21:23] <BULLE> bm: asl ?
[21:23] <DarkSotM> compiz should work for all wm
[21:23] <Gnea> !ubuntu | bm
[21:23] <ScottG489> ok
[21:23] <deftone7> Need Help!
[21:23] <iShock> Xubuntu 8.10 I need to detect and mount my digital camera, any help?
[21:23] <iShock> Xubuntu 8.10 I need to detect and mount my digital camera, any help?
[21:24] <Gnea> !helpme | deftone7
[21:24] <Gnea> !repeat | iShock
[21:24] <BCM43> I have  Powerbook G4 and the fan will not run. It is the same computer mentioned in the first post of this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222413. I am having the same problem of the computer shutting down after a lot of work.
[21:24] <iShock> Gnea: Stop spamming the bot?
[21:24] <bm> who wanna chat
[21:24] <iShock> !offtopic | bm
[21:24] <Gnea> iShock: I'm not.
[21:24] <iShock> !offtopic | Gnea
[21:24] <deftone7> Trying to install Ubuntu but the partitioner is not recognizing my unallocated space or my hard drive.
[21:24] <Gnea> iShock: don't play games, now stop that.
[21:25] <iShock> Xubuntu 8.10 I need to detect and mount my digital camera, any help?
[21:25] <sisif> Hello guys. Can somebody please tell whet module I need for this wifi card : "product: PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] / vendor: Intel Corporation " ? Thanks.
[21:25] <dave_> Can anybody walk me through setting up dual monitors in ubuntu with a radeon x800????????
[21:25] <dave_> please help me
[21:26] <DarkSotM> deftone7: can you use cfdisk or fdisk on it?
[21:26] <deftone7> no i can't DarkSotM
[21:26] <deftone7> i'm on the livecd right now
[21:26] <DarkSotM> do you know the dvice name?
[21:26] <SSilver2k> got a weird question.  i have two gps modules.  one uses the cypress_m8 driver, and now works fine in 8.10.  i can cat ttyUSB0 and get output data no problem.  i bought a new module which uses the FTDI USB-SERIAL driver and dmesg shows it as being attatched to USB0, but i cant cat anything out of it.  sometimes when both ar eplugged in, i will finally get data, but 99% it wont output
[21:26] <oskar-> deftone7, please look at the output of (1) "cat /proc/partitions" (2) "blkid"; is your hard drive shown there?
[21:26] <dave_> Somebody please help me
[21:26] <Gnea> iShock: also, in case you missed it, please see my response to simplenewb above
[21:27] <Gnea> dave_: stop begging.
[21:27] <iShock> It's gone out of the window Gnea, repeat?
[21:27] <dave_> gnea, stop being an ass
[21:27] <sara-> hi is secondlife on ubuntu? its only available for hardy herion
[21:27] <Gnea> !guidelines | dave_
[21:27] <Gnea> dave_: I am?
[21:27] <dave_> Yes, very much so
[21:27] <deftone7> major minor  #blocks  name
[21:27] <deftone7>    7     0    1688300 loop0
[21:27] <robinpahwa> captainm: i have unistalled the gstreamer and reinstalled it
[21:27] <kdub> is there a C library for making http requests out there already?
[21:27] <Gnea> dave_: I beg to differ. please read the guidelines, then ask again.
[21:27] <sara-> !secondlife
[21:27] <robinpahwa> captainm: Still nothing
[21:28] <Calamari> secondlife runs on vrtually any linux
[21:28] <onetinsoldier> dave_: asking for help as if your desperate is ok in my book, but if it's repeated very frequently, then that is annoying
[21:28] <Calamari> although its beta for linux version and not tht stabe
[21:28] <Calamari> *stable
[21:28] <captainm> robinpahwa: last try: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[21:28] <dave_> No, I stand corrected. You just don't have a life of your own so you sit in a chatroom all day kiddie-copping people for breaking minor rules
[21:28] <ASULutzy> dave_: You need the fglrx drivers presumably, though from what I hear the open source radeon drivers are getting better
[21:28] <DarkSotM> deftone7: Is it like /dev/hda or /dev/sda?
[21:28] <ASULutzy> ! patience | dave
[21:28] <dave_> well I've heard envyng is the best
[21:29] <ASULutzy> dave_: Envy just installs the drivers for you. It goes and installs fglrx
[21:29] <BCM43>  I have  Powerbook G4 and the fan will not run. It is the same computer mentioned in the first post of this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222413. I am having the same problem of the computer shutting down after a lot of work.
[21:29] <ASULutzy> dave_: Envy has nothing to do with dual monitors.
[21:29] <oskar-> deftone7, look also at the output of "lspci" and "dmesg". maybe you want to pastebin it (please don't paste into the channel)
[21:30] <ASULutzy> dave_: and to be fair, I think system -> administration -> hardware drivers can probably handle installing fglrx as well if not better than envy
[21:30] <GodfatherofEire1> Ok, Now I REALLY need some help, I've been askin for the last half an hour to an hour and I STILL have no response, would somebody PLEASE tell me how I can change the import quality of an MP3?
[21:30] <onetinsoldier> dave_: as far as getting the fglrx divers installed.. i used the following guide, which worked flawlessly except libsdtc++5 doesn't go by that name anymore... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[21:30] <Gnea> dave_: If you continue to be disrespectful, then perhaps you don't really need help. if envyng works so much better, then you wouldn't be here begging for help.
[21:30] <Gnea> !ati | dave_
[21:30] <rockyrock> during the partitioning level, what is the difference to make a partition at the beginning of the disk or at the end??? Which one to select??
[21:31] <Gnea> GodfatherofEire1: what are you using to import it?
[21:31] <GodfatherofEire1> Gnea: Rhythmbox and or Sound Juicer
[21:31] <deftone7> oskar: doing it right now....be ready
[21:31] <deftone7> lol
[21:31] <GodfatherofEire1> I just need to get the quality down to around 128 - 160kbps
[21:32] <Gnea> GodfatherofEire1: I'm unsure what you're talking about... is this from a stream like last.fm or what?
[21:32] <ASULutzy> GodfatherofEire1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping
[21:32] <SSilver2k> got a weird question.  i have two gps modules.  one uses the cypress_m8 driver, and now works fine in 8.10.  i can cat ttyUSB0 and get output data no problem.  i bought a new module which uses the FTDI USB-SERIAL driver and dmesg shows it as being attatched to USB0, but i cant cat anything out of it.  sometimes when both ar eplugged in, i will finally get data, but 99% it wont output
[21:32] <oskar-> GodfatherofEire1, sound-juicer, edit, preferences, output format, ....
[21:32] <deftone7> http://pastebin.com/d67d37172
[21:32] <Hangwire>   can someone help me with RTORRENT?
[21:32] <ASULutzy> !ask | Hangwire
[21:33] <GodfatherofEire1> Oskar- it doesnt show what the bitrate actually is
[21:33] <Gnea> oskar-, GodfatherofEire1: rhythmbox doesn't do that.
[21:33] <GodfatherofEire1> Gnea, no, just a CD
[21:33] <ASULutzy> GodfatherofEire1: again: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping
[21:33] <Hangwire> Im having a problem with rtorrent. Ive downloaded the rtorrent.rc, moved it to the home folder, renamed it to .rtorrent.rc and it gives me this error : rtorrent: Error in option file: ~/.rtorrent.rc:4: Invalid start of name.
[21:33] <punzada> quick question, when using sed if i would pipe it through a command to eliminate a phrase like normal i know the syntax is s/expression/replacement, but i'm having trouble when the expression is a directory name and i have to replace the entire name say /tux/ in the file, I basically need to remove one or the other of the / to make the directory in the line stay intact
[21:33] <punzada> anyone know the correct syntax for that?
[21:33] <Hangwire> Im having a problem with rtorrent. Ive downloaded the rtorrent.rc, moved it to the home folder, renamed it to .rtorrent.rc and it gives me this error : rtorrent: Error in option file: ~/.rtorrent.rc:4: Invalid start of name. Can anyone please help me?
[21:33] <ASULutzy> Hangwire: What's on line 4 of the file?
[21:34] <Cyynic> hey all, I've got a noob question here. When installing from source, if i forgot the 'make' step, how do i uninstall after doing 'make install' so i can try again in the right order?
[21:34] <Hangwire> ASULutzy: nothing, its empty.
[21:34] <ASULutzy> Hangwire: copy the entire file's contents to a pastebin
[21:34] <GodfatherofEire1> ASULutzy, sorry bout that, just tryin to respond to them
[21:34] <Gnea> GodfatherofEire1: oooooooh... I would suggest ripperx then
[21:34] <hatter243> punzada, you can escape slashes that you need to keep in the expression
[21:34] <Hangwire> pastebin?
[21:34] <ASULutzy> !paste | Hangwire
[21:34] <GodfatherofEire1> Gnea, thanks
[21:34] <dennda> Hi. When slightly using the computer, rhytmbox starts stuttering (e.g. when scrolling in firefox). This happens on several performant systems. How can I fix this? I already reniced rhytmbox to -5
[21:34] <punzada> i tried using \ before one of the / but it didn't work any :(
[21:34] <Cool-Nick> ﻿I recently installed ubuntu on an older computer with a newer hard drive. I reinstalled ubuntu on a small partition at the beginning of my drive and rebooted to receive the same error.
[21:34] <hatter243> punzada, if you wanted to replace /tux/ with tux you can use s/\/tux\//tux
[21:35] <ASULutzy> dennda: Firefox is being screwy lately, I've noticed it using near 100% CPU for no good reason sometimes
[21:35] <onetinsoldier> punzada: oh, hmmm, that's what i was about to suggest trying
[21:35] <punzada> and if i wanted it totally gone it would be s/\/tux\/// ?
[21:35] <Hangwire> ASULutzy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/91837/
[21:35] <dennda> ASULutzy: It also happens when fastly switching between workspaces
[21:35] <robinpahwa> captainm: I installed totem with Xine backend .. and now it is working
[21:36] <hatter243> punzada, I'm not an expert, but I believe that is correct
[21:36] <dennda> I mean, even my old crappy winamp on windows me on a *much* slower box did not choke even when the core was melting...
[21:36] <tiyowan> ASULutzy: Firefox has some memory leak problems, unfortunately.
[21:36] <deftone7> oskar-: i don't understand why it's not recognizing my hard drive or the unallocated space i made for ubuntu so i can dual boot vista and ubuntu
[21:36] <BCM43>  I have  Powerbook G4 and the fan will not run. It is the same computer mentioned in the first post of this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222413. I am having the same problem of the computer shutting down after a lot of work.
[21:36] <Hangwire> ASULutzy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/91837/
[21:36] <Hangwire> ASULutzy: if you havent seen it.
[21:37] <hatter243> punzada, if you are still having trouble, a good place to ask again would be #bash as this is not an ubuntu specific problem
[21:37] <captainm> robinpahwa: It should've worked with gstreamer too, weird. At least it's working now.
[21:37] <punzada> yeah figured i'd give here a shot first, thanks :)
[21:37] <ASULutzy> Hangwire: I saw it, don't spam paste... Does your file really have all those extra blank lines?
[21:37] <guntbert> Cyynic: should be no problem, without 'make' there is nothing to 'make install', so I'd just 'make', and then 'make install'
[21:37] <DarkSotM> deftone7: What kind of drive is it IDE, sATA?
[21:37] <Hangwire> ASULutzy: No, not at all. I guess the paste thing put them.
[21:37] <Cyynic> guntbert, oky doke, i'll try again...
[21:37] <robinpahwa> Captainm: whats the difference bw 2 ?
[21:37] <deftone7> SATA DarkSotM
[21:37] <oskar-> deftone7, have you also pastebinned the dmesg output?
[21:38] <ScottG489> i just got compiz but im not sure how to use it
[21:38] <guntbert> Cyynic: btw, don't forget most programs need a 'configure' first :)
[21:38] <Hangwire> ASULutzy: any ideas?
[21:39] <ASULutzy> Hangwire: Weird, I could give you my .rtorrent.rc, but I don't see what's going on with your's, what was the error again? and you're just typing rtorrent into a terminal right?
[21:39]  * CaptainMorgan is the real Capt
[21:39] <iShock> Gnea: F-spot isn't detecting it either.
[21:39] <captainm> robinpahwa: gstreamer and xine do  essentialy the same thing but gstreamer is newer. Xine is a bit more mature though
[21:39] <Hangwire> ASULutzy: Yes, just typing rtorrent into a terminal. rtorrent: Error in option file: ~/.rtorrent.rc:4: Invalid start of name.
[21:39] <Cyynic> guntbert, yeah, i've been putzing with ubuntu for a year now, but every attempt at compiling from source has been an utter failure :) i
[21:40] <Gnea> iShock: do you get anything with this command:  tail -f /var/log/syslog  when you plug the camera in?
[21:40] <Calamari> right.... heres my problem.... at uni, i have to go through a proxy. im back home now, and i've reset preferences>proxy and reset proxy settings in synaptis... but still things like transmission get a 407 (proxy auth req)
[21:40] <onetinsoldier> Cyynic: what are you trying to compile?
[21:40] <Cyynic> guntbert, i've ./configure -ed and now sudo make -ed... now for the make install...
[21:40] <redregis> bonjour !
[21:40] <deftone7> oskar-: here is the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/91840/
[21:41] <DarkSotM> deftone7: hmm... I just tried cfdisking my sATA drive and it wouldn't open (I'm in the liveCD too)  let me see...
[21:41] <Cyynic> guntbert, gnugo - i couldn't find it in the repos, and i've been wanting to figure this compiling thing out :)
[21:41] <ASULutzy> Hangwire: Weird, I guess I can paste mine which I know works and you can edit it however you think is appropriate
[21:41] <rellik> anyone able to give some advice on updating?  I have an old 7.04 I'm trying to bring to 8.10 (following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades), but it just complains that it can't find the repositories
[21:41] <onetinsoldier> Cyynic: roger
[21:41] <Calamari> it also affects wget.... wget says 407 for everything, but i've disabled every trace of proxy setting from the system..... any ideas?
[21:41] <guntbert> Cyynic: 'make' doesn't need sudo, only 'make install'
[21:41] <captainm> Hangwire: ASULutzy: I've had the same problem for a while now. Haven't been able to find a solution
[21:41]  * redregis cherche Français...
[21:41] <BCM43> Linux sucks because the fan won't work on a Powerbook G4
[21:41] <deftone7> DarkSotM: at least i'm not the only one having that problem....any ideas?
[21:41] <Cyynic> guntbert, ah... that's probably what i was doing wrong then huh? :)
[21:41] <Hangwire> ASULutzy, thank you, but I am doing it the right way? renaming it to .rtorrent.rc, moving it to Home?
[21:42] <oskar-> BCM43, powerbooks perhaps suck
[21:42] <Gnea> BCM43: that's not a fault of Linux.
[21:42] <robinpahwa> captainm: well thankyou, you helped me a lot
[21:42] <BCM43> Lol, I know
[21:42] <deftone7> any ideas oskar- ??
[21:42] <BCM43> but still
[21:42] <Hangwire> ASULutzy: and okay, give me yours. might as well try.
[21:42] <Gnea> BCM43: then don't make claimless accussations.
[21:42] <ASULutzy> Hangwire: http://paste.ubuntu.com/91842/
[21:42] <guntbert> Cyynic: no, nothing wrong, just not necessary, and therefore...
[21:42] <tiyowan> BCM43: What kernel are you using?
[21:42] <pdtpatri1k> hi there deftone7 did it work?
[21:42] <DarkSotM> deftone7:  You might want to try setting up the filesystem with another livecd I'm googling the problem now
[21:42] <pdtpatri1k> deftone7 did it work for ya?
[21:43] <BCM43> Gnea: http://bash.org/?152037
[21:43] <Kuba> hi
[21:43] <Cyynic> guntbert, yeah, but i was neglecting to sudo the make install... it seems to have worked this time. thanks!
[21:43] <Gnea> BCM43: bash.org is not a credible source, and that is offtopic.
[21:43] <iShock> Gnea: It finds the pictures now, but I can't view them.
[21:43] <Kuba> I get a empty list in GDM Face Browser, wtf?
[21:43] <deftone7> DarkSotM: i guess i can try ubuntu hardy live cd
[21:43] <BCM43> Gnea: sorry
[21:43] <guntbert> Cyynic: glad to hear :)
[21:44] <qcjn2> hey , never seen so manyu people in this chat, remember the time to come here
[21:44] <deftone7> just sucks cause my wireless card definitely works with Intrepid
[21:44] <iShock> Gnea: It finds the pictures now, but I can't view them.
[21:44] <Cyynic> guntbert - sweet, this is some kinda linux right of passage isn't it? ;)
[21:44] <Gnea> iShock: what camera is it?
[21:44] <shovi_> how do i turn the bloody keyrings off, or make it stop asking me
[21:44] <oskar-> deftone7, the hard drive is recognized as sda somehow, but maybe not completely
[21:44] <iShock> Gnea: Digital Concepts 89379-Z
[21:45] <Hangwire> ASULutzy: Thank you very very much! Suprisingly it worked!
[21:45] <Gnea> BCM43: eh, that's true to a certain extent, I suppose, but trolling will always come back and bite that person back
[21:45] <deftone7> oskar-: i've tried using gparted with no luck....i've tried resizing the partitionn on vista with no luck....not sure why it's not seeing anything
[21:45] <ASULutzy> Hangwire: glad to hear it, enjoy rtorrent, it's amazing :)
[21:46] <onetinsoldier> Cyynic: i am having trouble finding guntbert on google. where did you get it? sourceforge? btw, gnugo is in the normal repo. don't know why you haven't been able to find it in a repo
[21:46] <actafool> ok i have problems with my screen can someone tell me why my screen flashing periodic like flashgliht ;(
[21:46] <ASULutzy> Hangwire: rtorrent + screen +ssh = ability to manage torrents on  my home server from any computer connected to the internet, it's great
[21:46] <Gnea> iShock: are you using f-spot or something else to try to view the photos?
[21:46] <oskar-> deftone7, did the drive work before with the same computer?
[21:46] <iShock> Gnea, something else. It gives something about 2 SOI markers or something
[21:46] <guntbert> Cyynic: ??, as English is not my first language I have trouble understanding your last statement
[21:46] <DarkSotM> deftone7:  Can you mount the drive allright?
[21:47] <guntbert> onetinsoldier: why would you want to get me? ;-)
[21:47] <deftone7> it's a brand new western digital 320GB Caviar.
[21:47] <actafool> ok my screen blinking ;(
[21:47] <deftone7> it wont see it at all
[21:47] <actafool> can someone help this blinking is so annoyng ;(
[21:47] <Gnea> iShock: well what is 'something else'?
[21:48] <onetinsoldier> guntbert: sorry, i thought he was replying to my question to him earlier when i asked him what he was compiling. thought he was compiling 'guntbert' and 'gnugo'...lol. sorry
[21:48] <Hangwire> ASULutzy: Sounds very nice, and i like CLI programs. Again, thank you.
[21:48] <onetinsoldier> replying*
[21:48] <j_bsdxinu> I have installed Ubuntu 8.10 in two laptops
[21:48] <actafool> ?
[21:49] <iShock> Gnea, uh. . GPicView
[21:49] <robotmonkeys> does updated use /etc/init.d files like sysvinit did?
[21:49] <guntbert> onetinsoldier: np, was just pulling your leg :)
[21:49] <onetinsoldier> guntbert: ok, mind if i compile you then?
[21:49] <ASULutzy> actafool: instead of saying AMG SCREEN FLASH HALP, you could try detailing what kind of hardware you have, what you have tried, what you've done recently that could have possibly started this problem or whether this is a fresh install, etc
[21:50] <j_bsdxinu> I have installed Ubuntu 8.10 in two laptops. The first one when log in connects to Wireless ok, the second asks for a wallet password and there is no docs explaining this :(
[21:50] <Gnea> iShock: try gtkam
[21:50] <actafool> can someone tell me why my screen is blinking..
[21:50] <Gnea> !info gtkam
[21:50] <onetinsoldier> guntbert: sounds kinky.. doesn't it?
[21:50] <burim> hello
[21:50] <guntbert> onetinsoldier: but please don't make me - but thats enough OT by now :)
[21:50] <oskar-> deftone7, does "/dev/sda" show up, if you write "cat /proc/partitions"?
[21:50] <patrik> HI, just tried to install some software with Synaptic and It tells me the software is not authenticated. Do I need to worry? The software should be in the standard repositories.
[21:50] <onetinsoldier> guntbert: lo,. i agree
[21:51] <j_bsdxinu> I have installed Ubuntu 8.10 in two laptops. The first one when log in connects to Wireless ok, the second asks for password before connecting to wireless and there is no docs explaining this :(
[21:51] <hischild> patrik, have you tried to update first?
[21:51] <ardchoille> patrik: have you added 3rd party repos?
[21:51] <burim> im dual booting, xp and ubuntu 8.10, using grub for my boot menu, is it safe to delete my ubuntu partition ? will i still be able to boot xp ?
[21:51] <tiyowan> onetinsoldier: Off-topic,  but I couldn't resist. :) You'd need ~10TB for the human memory.
[21:51] <ASULutzy> patrik: That's weird, all the stuff in the official repositories should be good, did you apt-get update first?
[21:51] <deftone7> major minor  #blocks  name
[21:51] <deftone7>    7     0    1688300 loop0
[21:51] <patrik> I have medibuntu but that's it.
[21:51] <deftone7> that's what it shows
[21:51] <markolonius> hey anyone know how to change the gnome launcher to start an applications with a command as i would in the terminal?
[21:52] <ASULutzy> patrik: Yea, medibuntu's packages will complain about that iirc
[21:52] <ardchoille> patrik:  sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring
[21:52] <hashbrowns> I can't boot to windows xp pro x64 after installing ubuntu 8.10 64-bit version.  After grub starts to load my windows installation, my windows installation says "NTLDR is missing" and I have not choice to but to restart my computer.
[21:52] <patrik> But this is 7zip which I don't think is in the medibuntu repo. I'll try to update. Wait a sec
[21:52] <ardchoille> patrik: and that should be the last time you see that unauthenticated message
[21:53] <onetinsoldier> tiyowan: lol. i roger that. and the correct version of Arnold Schwarzenegger for a neural network cpu
[21:53] <iShock> Gnea: It's nothing but solid black ...
[21:53] <Gnea> iShock: and what did syslog have to say about it?
[21:53] <j_bsdxinu> laptop asks for password when connecting to wireless is there a way to disable this
[21:53] <patrik> I found the problem. The mirror I was using was down.
[21:53] <DarkSotM> deftone7:  what is the output of dmesg?
[21:54] <oskar-> deftone7, did you get access to the hard drive in any other way? maybe it is not connected/jumpered/... correctly? is the bios version perhaps too old? (not very likely, but i had this for a quite new, large drive)
[21:54] <tiyowan> j_bsdxinu: That's a bit vague...do you mean it keeps asking you for the password everytime you try to connect?
[21:54] <oskar-> DarkSotM, http://paste.ubuntu.com/91840/
[21:55] <onetinsoldier> !grub | hashbrowns
[21:55] <j_bsdxinu> tiyowan, no, only at login when first connecting to wireless it asks for wallet pass
[21:55] <Gnea> iShock: perhaps it's not supported..
[21:56] <BCM43> I have  Powerbook G4 and the fan will not run. It is the same computer mentioned in the first post of this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222413. I am having the same problem of the computer shutting down after a lot of work.
[21:56] <deftone7> oskar-: the jumper settings are in default master
[21:56] <ScottG489> Im kinda having trouble understanding how files work in Linux. I mean I click on a file to "run" it but nothing happens
[21:56] <j_bsdxinu> tiyowan, i know this can be avoided as the second laptop does not do it
[21:56] <tiyowan> BCM43: What kernel are you using?
[21:57] <iShock> Gnea: The resolution was wayyyy too high.. 2***x1*** too big :P
[21:57] <j_bsdxinu> it just connects
[21:57] <jun_> anyone else having difficulty getting LAN working with a gigabyte ex58 mobo?
[21:57] <tiyowan> tiyowan: What version of ubuntu?
[21:57] <tiyowan> oops.
[21:57] <mikethk> aloha.... can someone gief me whole line to start nvidia xconfig in terminal, cause it dosent seem to work
[21:57] <tiyowan> tiyowan: What version of ubuntu?
[21:57] <Gnea> iShock: I didn't think 3.1MP could do that...
[21:57] <iShock> It can.
[21:57] <BCM43> tiyowan: A kernal from a while ago. Perhaps I should update? I'm just not sure if I can keep it cool long enough to update
[21:57] <deftone7> oskar-: as far as motherboard is concerned i took it to the manufacturer and they have the latest bios on it
[21:58] <jun_> ifconfig isn't showing either of my LAN ports
[21:58] <mikethk>  aloha.... can someone gief me whole line to start nvidia xconfig in terminal, cause it dosent seem to work
[21:58] <oskar-> deftone7, ok... i have no further ideas. sorry
[21:58] <hischild> BCM43, you can always get a liveCD, chroot to your env, then update
[21:58] <tiyowan> j_bsdxinu: Sorry, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[21:58] <BCM43> hischild: I did, it fails even using a live cd
[21:58] <burim> im dual booting xp and ubuntu 8.10, using grub for my boot menu, is it safe to delete my ubuntu partition ? will i still be able to boot xp ?
[21:58] <DarkSotM> deftone7: This drive shows in the bios right?
[21:58] <sisif> Hello guys. Is some one here willing to assist me with installing drivers for a Intel 4965 wifi card ?
[21:58] <tiyowan> BCM43: "A kernel from a while ago" isn't very helpful.
[21:59] <hischild> BCM43, with the kernel you seek?
[21:59] <BCM43> tiyowan: I know, booting it up now to see which one
[21:59] <deftone7> DarkSotM: yes it's there alright
[21:59] <Gnea> BCM43: tried this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81744
[21:59] <j_bsdxinu> tiyowan, 8.10
[21:59] <deftone7> I can boot vista with no problems
[21:59] <hashbrowns> onetinsoldier: that link didnt help.  GRUB is installed, my windows installation just wont boot.  It spits out "NTLDR is missing" and I have no choice but to restart the computer.
[21:59] <shovi> Hey, whats a good notifier for Gmail???
[21:59] <shovi> and
[21:59] <DarkSotM> deftone7: hmm... give me a minute to look at the output
[21:59] <yans> join #perl
[21:59] <jun_> hi all, i'm finding the wireless connection on my DWA-556 to be unreliable with the ath9k drivers. Any ideas?
[22:00] <Gnea> hashbrowns: fixboot
[22:00] <shovi> Can thunderbird have a tray notifier..? or minimize to tray in linux
[22:00] <oskar-> burim, i would first run the computer from the windows installation cd and do a "fixmbr" (google for it). after that it should boot without grub, and then removing the linux partition is safe
[22:00] <onetinsoldier> hashbrowns: yes.. sorry about the 'incorrect' link
[22:00] <Gnea> shovi: it already does, just minimize it and when you get new email it will notify you like windows messenger does
[22:00] <Ghoul> ok, i'm trying to get 2 monitors working on my laptop; since grandr is useless i've googled around and it seems that i have to manually edit xorg.conf
[22:01] <shovi> Well can i put it in the tray
[22:01] <shovi> like windows
[22:01] <Ghoul> this is my lspci -v output and the vga section:
[22:01] <Ghoul> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2fa83d26
[22:01] <hashbrowns> gnea: How do I go about doing that?  My windows install disk doesnt prompt me to push R to enter recovery console.  The only thing on my disk that in anyway resembles a recovery thing is Automated System Recovery.
[22:01] <Ghoul> this is my manual editing of xorg so far:
[22:01] <Ghoul> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d15a561e6
[22:01] <Ghoul> .. i'm a bit confused of how to fill in the Driver section!? thus left it with question marks..
[22:01] <Gnea> hashbrowns: XP or Vista?
[22:01] <Ghoul> can a experienced user look at my xorg and see if it's alright before i save it? (and hopefully get the 2 monitors to run! :)
[22:01] <hashbrowns> Gnea: XP pro X64 edition
[22:02] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: please try to make your problem description all on one line
[22:02] <Ghoul> onetinsoldier: ok let me fetch and make it in one
[22:02] <brrrrrrrrrrt> Ghoul: hm, reading a xorg.conf file one the fly is no fun... trial and error for you?
[22:02] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: ok, sounds good
[22:03] <Ghoul> this is my lspci -v output and the vga section: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2fa83d26 | this is my manual editing of xorg so far: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d15a561e6 .. i'm a bit confused of how to fill in the Driver section!? thus left it with question marks.. can a experienced user look at my xorg and see if it's alright before i save it? (and hopefully get the 2 monitors to run! :)
[22:03] <Gnea> hashbrowns: ah ok, try #windows
[22:03] <Ghoul> brrrrrrrrrrt: yes, i really dunno what linux is.. i'm googling around :)
[22:03] <BCM43> Gnea: oh, thank you so much. did not see that
[22:03] <BCM43> doing a cleans insatll of debian now
[22:04] <Ghoul> onetinsoldier: umm, now i'm not sure about what to fill in the Driver: section and in BusID section
[22:04] <brrrrrrrrrrt> Ghoul: good thing, will keep your braincells alive :)
[22:04] <Ghoul> that is the question basically; how do i determine the correct parameters for driver and bus ID
[22:05] <sisif> Hello guys. Is some one here willing to assist me with installing drivers for a Intel 4965 wifi card ?
[22:05] <brrrrrrrrrrt> sisif: have you found any tutorials/examples yet?
[22:05] <Ghoul> brrrrrrrrrrt: well.. on the one hand yes.. on the other hand i dislike it because i'm wasting my time in such tasks; would be better if i allocate my time more productively
[22:05] <bulio> My sound in ubuntu stopped working
[22:05] <rockyrock> is there a newer kernel than this: 2.6.24-21-generic?
[22:06] <bulio> I have volume turned up, and it was working earlier today
[22:06] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: i wouldn't know anything about dual monitor as far as the xorg.conf file goes. for the driver it simply one line in the device section, like this(except you need the right driver name according to the driver you are using)...           Driver      "fglrx"
[22:06] <Ghoul> things are supposed to just work... ubuntu is still not a ready desktop system for the average joe
[22:06] <archman> bulio: try to restart gdm, or computer
[22:06] <bulio> any idea what might be wrong?
[22:06] <bulio> archman: I fif
[22:06] <bulio> *did
[22:06] <majnoon> !ot
[22:06] <sisif> brrrrrrrrrrt: not really. I`ve been reading the ubuntuforums for almost an hour now, but still nothing.
[22:06] <brrrrrrrrrrt> Ghoul: when it come to xorg.conf the proprietary driver should do most of the work for you,
[22:06] <robin0800> Ghoul: if you can rebout and get into recovery mode you can run Xorg -configure
[22:07] <Ghoul> onetinsoldier: how do i determine the driver that i'm using?
[22:07] <bulio> any other suggestions?
[22:07] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: you aren't talking about Ubuntu there.. you are talking about Linux in general.. just an fyi
[22:07] <Ghoul> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2fa83d26 !?
[22:07] <brrrrrrrrrrt> sisif: you have not found out what sort of chip your wireless card have?
[22:07] <actafool> ok can anyone help me with my blinking fucking screen
[22:07] <actafool> ops sorry for bad word
[22:07] <actafool> again
[22:07] <archman> bulio: well, i need to think a little...:)
[22:07] <FloodBot3> actafool: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:07] <Ghoul> onetinsoldier: i guess so :) ubuntu/gnu/linux is not ready :))
[22:08] <Ghoul> still fun though :)
[22:08] <ardchoille> Ghoul: please take that elsewhere
[22:08] <sisif> brrrrrrrrrrt: my chipset is a Intel Pro 6945 abn
[22:08] <tiyowan> Ghoul: !ot
[22:08] <Ghoul> ardchoille: true sry
[22:08] <archman> bulio: you checked alsa mixer to see everything is finetuned?
[22:09] <Ghoul> ok, i'll omit the driver line in xorg.. maybe that will work
[22:09] <sisif> brrrrrrrrrrt: i`m not sure what module i need to install. On the other notebook (Dell Inspiron) I had to use ndiwrapper, but that was a BCM chipset
[22:09] <bulio> archman: alsamixer is at 100% volume level
[22:09] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: whether or not it's ready depends on a lot of things. i just installed and it worked for me with no problem, right from the get-go. now, if i wanted hardware accelerated OpenGL, then i had some work to do.
[22:09] <Ghoul> ok, rephrasing my question; how do i determine what device driver i'm using?
[22:10] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: what video card do you have?
[22:10] <Ghoul> onetinsoldier: you're right, it works from the get-go :)
[22:10] <Ghoul> onetinsoldier: SiS
[22:10] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: omg
[22:10] <Ghoul> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[22:10] <Ghoul> :)
[22:10] <archman> bulio: system-prefs-sound --- sound playback on autodetect?
[22:11] <bulio> archman: nope
[22:11] <Hangwire> Can anyone help me with rtorrent? I can start the torrent download! When i press ^6 it gives me command mis-match! Help?
[22:11] <Hangwire> Can anyone help me with rtorrent? I cant start the torrent download! When i press ^6 it gives me command mis-match! Help?
[22:12] <archman> bulio: try it
[22:12] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: i don't know how much i can help. but lets start by making sure you have this package installed --> xserver-xorg-driver-sis
[22:12] <brrrrrrrrrrt> sisif: can this link help? http://www.google.com/linux?hl=no&q=Intel+4965+wifi&btnG=S%C3%B8k&lr=
[22:12] <tonyyarusso> Has anyone else had files called "New Document.odt" and "New Spreadsheet.ods" show up in ~/Documents/, and if so, how do you get rid of them?
[22:12] <DarkSotM> deftone7: It looks like the livecd has trouble loading sata kernel modules you might need to load them you self
[22:12] <archman> bulio: and test sound in it
[22:12] <Hangwire> alexbobp: why?
[22:13] <Hangwire> Can anyone help me with rtorrent? I cant start the torrent download! When i press ^6 it gives me command mis-match! Help?
[22:13] <bulio> archman: that was the first thing I tried and it didnt playback any sound on test
[22:13] <ardchoille> tonyyarusso: those look like templates for openoffice.org, but I've never seen them show up on any of my 11 Ubuntu systems
[22:13] <n8tuser> tonyyarusso -> rm -rf "New Document.odt"   will not remove them?
[22:13] <ardchoille> tonyyarusso: you might want to tweak the "templates" path in oo.o
[22:13] <tonyyarusso> n8tuser: it will, but they come back eventually - not sure what prompts it.
[22:13] <Hangwire> Can anyone help me with rtorrent? I cant start the torrent download! When i press ^6 it gives me command mis-match! Help?
[22:14] <sisif> brrrrrrrrrrt: not really :(
[22:14] <archman> bulio: you tried all of the drivers listed there?
[22:14] <tonyyarusso> ardchoille: I haven't tried to make any templates though - any idea what would?
[22:14] <ardchoille> tonyyarusso: iirc, oo.o has ~/Documents in the templates path, but you can change that within oo.o prefs
[22:14] <bulio> archman: In the preferences page, yeah
[22:15] <bulio> none worked, and its strange because it worked this morning
[22:15] <brrrrrrrrrrt> sisif: hm, is this not a step by step? http://www.nanonanonano.net/linux/debian/iwlwifi
[22:15] <Ghoul> onetinsoldier: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2a2f7ee9
[22:16] <Ghoul> so it is installed somewhere.. :)
[22:16] <tonyyarusso> ardchoille: no, it has /home/anthony/.openoffice.org2/user/template.  ~/Documents is the path for "My Documents" only.
[22:16] <ardchoille> tonyyarusso: .odt is open document template, it looks like it's keeping copies of the templates in Documents
[22:17] <archman> bulio: i dunno... you tried using jack?
[22:17] <deftone7> DarkSotM: Thank bud now I Know where to go from here. thanks guys
[22:17] <tonyyarusso> ardchoille: and more importantly, regardless of where it puts such things, what kind of nonsense is automatically creating files like this ?
[22:17] <DarkSotM> Glad I could help
[22:17] <ardchoille> tonyyarusso: this is one of the reason I don't use that suite ;)
[22:18] <ardchoille> tonyyarusso: gnome-office is in the repos, that may be more to your liking
[22:18] <shovi> how do i make my keyring for Wireless netowkrs in networkmanager become automatic, instead of prompting me everytime i reboot
[22:18] <bulio> archman: whats jack?
[22:18] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: ok, good. now, without even looking, i would guess that your driver line should be... Driver      "sis"
[22:18] <asterix> I installed the official ATI drivers following the instructions here...  http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux64/linux64-radeon.html   How would I go about uninstalling them?
[22:19] <brrrrrrrrrrt> shovi: hm, sounds dangerous to have the keyring auto open?
[22:19] <Ghoul> onetinsoldier: ok, well hmm i thought that i'b be something more exat
[22:19] <archman> bulio: jack is the sound driver just like the alsa or oss you got is; it's used for low latency, i use it in music production
[22:19] <shovi> well i never remember having one before, but now every time i boot into ubuntu it asks me to enter keyring pw.... i wanna get rid of it
[22:19] <Ghoul> well thnx anyways, i'll just try this and reboot
[22:19] <archman> !jack
[22:19] <snikpo> why do I get the Kubuntu Splash when I boot to Gnome?
[22:20] <archman> bulio: maybe wanna try it?
[22:20] <brrrrrrrrrrt> snikpo: because you initially installed kubuntu?
[22:20] <HexFlash> how do i   make all my windows gnome transparent
[22:20] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: you might also want to look at this... http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.0/doc/SiS2.html
[22:20] <snikpo> even though I select Gnome as default??
[22:20] <bulio> archman: well I'd rather just get a working config like I had before
[22:20] <bulio> thanks for the help
[22:21] <ASULutzy> snikpo: go to system ->administration -> login window
[22:21] <brrrrrrrrrrt> snikpo: try apt-cache search splash |grep screen ?
[22:21] <archman> bulio: sorry then, try to ask again, maybe some expert might help you; also try to check if there is irc channel for the driver you used. you know which you used?
[22:21] <snikpo> whoaaaaaaaaa here lol
[22:21] <hatter243> If I've got a USB external drive that Ubuntu tells me it cannot mount, is it toast?
[22:22] <snikpo> yes, it lists Gnome as "default session"...
[22:22] <DarkSotM> hatter243: Not nessisarly
[22:22] <ASULutzy> hatter243: What exactly does it say about not being able to mount it? If it was just an NTFS drive that wasn't shut down and it's "dirty" you can force a mount
[22:22] <archman> bulio: also, which ubuntu you got?
[22:22] <Cige> So awhile ago I installed ubuntu onto my formerly vista running laptop.
[22:22] <Cige> I kept a partition for vista, but I have only loaded it a few times since the install.
[22:22] <Cige> The problem is that now I have just discovered that the vista partition is missing.
[22:22] <Cige> I'm wondering what could have caused this, and if I can reverse it.
[22:22] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: i just looked it up. i was correct. it should be like like this 'example' --> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m6e5db6b3
[22:22] <FloodBot3> Cige: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:22] <HexFlash> how can make everything inside a window transparent besides text and pictures and things like that
[22:23] <Cige> sorry about the flood
[22:23] <Gnea> hatter243: or you can install ntfsprogs and fix it from ubuntu
[22:23] <hatter243> ASULutzy, I believe it was an NTFS volume
[22:23] <simplenewb> I have a folder in my home dir that keeps reverting to it's old permissions every time I change them. How can I make my changes perm?
[22:23] <hatter243> ASULutzy, and by mount, I mean double clicking its icon within Computer
[22:23] <snikpo> ASULutzy: what is apt-cache?
[22:24] <archman> bulio: is your audio unmuted in alsa mixer? (that 'sound speaker' icon)
[22:24] <DarkSotM> hatter243: what does it say when you try to mount it?
[22:24] <mosahin> I have a problem with DBDesigner4 on Ubuntu 8.10. It gives the "Unable to load libsqlmy.so " error although I followed the guide  in here and installed the dbExpress driver.
[22:24] <hatter243> "Unable to mount location Can't mount file
[22:24] <ardchoille> snikpo: that's where the package manager puts packages waiting to install
[22:24] <mosahin> forgot the link: http://knightlust.blogspot.com/2008_01_01_archive.html
[22:24] <snikpo> ASULutzy: obviously, I don't know what I'm doing or how to do it lol I need GUI I'm a real n00b
[22:25] <HexFlash> how can make everything inside a window transparent besides text and pictures and things like that
[22:25] <archman> bulio: you here, dude?
[22:25] <mosahin> !dbdesigner
[22:25] <ASULutzy> snikpo: I told you
[22:25] <ASULutzy> Click System, then administration, then login window.
[22:25] <guntbert> !repeat | HexFlash
[22:25] <ardchoille> !compiz | HexFlash look into using compiz for transparency
[22:25] <CaneToad> since the recent driver-related updates to 8.10, my audio doesn't work - shows that it is muted and can't unmute it...even a usb phone doesn't work
[22:26] <snikpo> ASULutzy: right, I stated Gnome is set as default... it still boots as Kubuntu
[22:26] <ASULutzy> hatter243: you should do sudo fdisk -l to find the name of the NTFS partition and then mount it using the terminal
[22:26] <Mageiriki-me-bas> gr
[22:26] <CaneToad> could anyone help me troubleshoot audio?  pretty please?
[22:26] <hatter243> ASULutzy, fdisk -l says that it cannot open /dev/sda or /dev/sdb
[22:26] <snikpo> isn't there another GUI for Splash screen management that you have to get 3rd party?
[22:26] <ASULutzy> snikpo: Oh, you're talking about your splash, not your login, my mistake
[22:26] <ASULutzy> hatter243: sudo fdisk -l
[22:26] <snikpo> yeah lol
[22:27] <snikpo> now that we're on the right track hehe
[22:27] <Cige> so, what I'm basically wondering is what could cause someone to accidentally eliminate a boot partition.
[22:27] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: this page i referred you to --> http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.0/doc/SiS2.html  ...i don't know how well or if any of those options would work, it looks like it from an old version of X11
[22:27] <nat1192> Stupidity?
[22:27] <jun_> Hi all. My wifi connection keeps dropping every so often. ath9k driver, dwa-556 pci card. any ideas?
[22:27] <hatter243> ASULutzy, all that mentions are the /dev/sda partitions that my Ubuntu installation is currently using
[22:28] <ASULutzy> hatter243: Doesn't make mention of any NTFS partitions?
[22:28] <asterix> How do I tell exactly what video drivers my system is using right now?
[22:28] <DarkSotM> hatter243: do you know the device name?
[22:28] <hatter243> ASULutzy, doesn't even mention it.
[22:28] <hatter243> DarkSotM, I assume it would be /dev/sdb, right?
[22:28] <energY_> I CAN HAZ UBUNTUZ?
[22:29] <DarkSotM> hatter243: probobly but I've had usb drive jump names before
[22:29] <ASULutzy> hatter243: If it's a separate hard drive(not just a separate partition), and it's currently plugged in, and sudo fdisk -l doesn't even mention it, that's bad news
[22:29] <Cige> well energY, since it is free you can have as much UBUNTUZ as you want
[22:29] <der|kunstler> how do you make ubuntu's base system to be in a specific language ?, let's say russian or spanish >?
[22:30] <hashbrowns> Installed ubuntu and GRUB.  When trying to boot my windows xp pro x64 installation via grub windows complains about NTLDR is missing.  How do I fix this?  I tried copying the files over via my ubuntu installation but no go.
[22:30] <Gnea> energY_: only if you speax with lowercases.
[22:30] <hatter243> ASULutzy, Yes, it's an external USB harddrive. I figured it was toast as Windows doesn't even acknowledge its existence. Just wanted to make sure I was diagnosing it right in Ubuntu as well :D
[22:30] <c0p3rn1c> asterix: you can see your driver in xorg.conf
[22:30] <c0p3rn1c> asterix: at least the one you are using
[22:30] <feitingen> for fuck sake, pidgin is segfaulting on the day before CHIRISTMAS EVE
[22:30] <energY_> Can ubuntu make fat ntfs without loosing files?
[22:30] <CShadowRun> Hi, my microphone doesn't work, if i go to gnomes sound preferences, change my Sound Capture device to OSS or "HDA NVidia AD198x Analog (ALSA)" it works. But if i go to ALSA, i get nothing. Any ideas?
[22:30] <der|kunstler> hashbrowns, do you have windows on a partition different than the 1st one ?
[22:30] <DarkSotM> hatter243: does anything show in dmesg when you plug it in?
[22:31] <hatter243> ASULutzy, Additionally, sudo ntfsmount /dev/sdb filas to read bootsector, startup volume, and fails to mount. Then it tells me to run chkdsk /f
[22:31] <feitingen> packagers, get your shit together, what the fuck is happening!?
[22:31] <guest_> hello, i have seen once a software that can read a value from "Input you anything" window and passes it to console program. Can you remind me it's name?
[22:31] <hashbrowns> derk|kunstler I dont think so.
[22:31] <ardchoille> !language | feitingen
[22:31] <Cige> The vista partition on my laptop disappeared about a few months after I installed ubuntu, what could have unwittingly caused this
[22:31] <der|kunstler> ardchoille, any ideas on how to make ubuntu on a specific language ?
[22:31] <CaneToad> Cige - disappeared?
[22:31] <c0p3rn1c> Cige: self-distruct ? :)
[22:32] <hatter243> DarkSotM, Device not ready and then a half dozen "Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 0-3
[22:32] <CaneToad> Cige have you looked at the partition table of the drive?
[22:32] <Cige> well, when I try to load it, it tells me the partition does not exist, but it still shows un in GRUB.
[22:32] <der|kunstler> When you boot from the livecd, you choose the language, and the core system is in that language, how do you add languages after it is installed, by any chance anybody knows ?
[22:32] <asterix> c0p3rn1c: I'm just a little confused because I installed the official driver from their website but then I went to enable the desktop effects and it prompted me to enable some other driver which I did.  Now it seems like the desktop is a little choppy even with the effects turned off.
[22:32] <feitingen> ardchoille: pidgin is segfaulting, which in itself is insanely bad, and in the season when communicatin with the family is important, you guys fail me. Bad Job.
[22:32] <Cige> i mean in GRUB
[22:32] <DarkSotM> hatter243: That's not good
[22:33] <der|kunstler> feitingen, backup the ~/.purple dir, erase and run pidgin again
[22:33] <Cige> the partition editor in Ubuntu says that it is unassigned
[22:33] <hatter243> DarkSotM, rofl, dead. I'm going to try the freezer trick as the long shot. But I bet it's toast
[22:33] <c0p3rn1c> asterix: what kind of videocard do you have ?
[22:33] <asterix> radeon 4870
[22:33] <ardchoille> feitingen: it would be more beneficial to ask how to fix a problem rather than blaming the package maintainers; pidgin works great here so it's not the maintainers' fault.
[22:33] <DarkSotM> hatter243: Ya, good luck
[22:33] <c0p3rn1c> asterix: what is "their website"?
[22:33] <CaneToad> Cige are ubuntu and windows on the same drive?  what partition numbers?
[22:33] <asterix> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux64/linux64-radeon.html
[22:33] <onetinsoldier> guest_: hmmm, i don't know.. maybe these? autocutsel glipper
[22:33] <hatter243> DarkSotM, ASULutzy, thanks for your help!
[22:33] <Gnea> hatter243: are you plugging into a usb hub or straight into a usb port on the computer?
[22:33] <DarkSotM> no prob
[22:34] <hashbrowns> Installed ubuntu and GRUB.  When trying to boot my windows xp pro x64 installation via grub windows complains about NTLDR is missing.  How do I fix this?  I tried copying the files over via my ubuntu installation but no go.  #Windows couldn't help me.
[22:34] <c0p3rn1c> asterix: you're supposed to install ubuntu driver packages
[22:34] <hatter243> Gnea, two USB jacks into the computer
[22:34] <c0p3rn1c> asterix: at least that it's how it is with nvidia
[22:34] <Gnea> hatter243: hrmm... got a different usb cord to try with?
[22:34] <c0p3rn1c> !ati
[22:34] <CaneToad> Cige then compare with /boot/grub/menu.lst on ubuntu
[22:34] <asterix> c0p3rn1c: I tried the ubuntu drivers but they didn't seem to be working well in Wine so I wanted to try other options for troubleshooting purposes
[22:34] <feitingen> ardchoille: if the solution has to do with the settings i have made in .whateverdir it should be carried on/translated/whatever to the next version. this is the responsibility the package maintainers should take care of.
[22:35] <der|kunstler> ubottu, hi :P
[22:35] <hatter243> Gnea, that would require a different external enclosure. I'm not certain I have anymore of those around
[22:35] <Cige> CaneToad, they are both on the same drive, I'm not quite sure what you mean by partition numbers though
[22:35] <c0p3rn1c> asterix: did you try the binary drivers?
[22:35] <Gnea> hatter243: o.O oh my... i'm used to the kind where the usb cable is detachable
[22:35] <c0p3rn1c> from ubuntu
[22:35] <Kar1na> join #ubuntu-es
[22:36] <c0p3rn1c> asterix: because you have the open source drivers and the propitary binary drivers
[22:36] <Gnea> hatter243: do you have another system you could test it on?
[22:36] <asterix> c0p3rn1c: I did try whatever drivers that EnvyNG downloaded and they seemed to work the best.  Now I'm just curious how to completely get rid of the official ATI drivers since there's no uninstall info on their website.
[22:36] <rebel_kid> im looking for a new web cam but i dont want to spend hours compiling drivers because the darn thing throws a fit at ubuntu. anyone have any brand names or models/series that wont throw a fit when being used on a linux computer
[22:36] <CaneToad> Cige you familiar with using fdisk -l /dev/.... where .... is the drive, to report the partition table?
[22:36] <onetinsoldier> asterix: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[22:36] <DarkSotM> hatter243: Just to let you know, that mesg in dmesg is what my ipod did just before it died
[22:36] <hatter243> Gnea, errors seem about the same in Fedora Core 3 and Windows completely fails to recognize it past "Your device is ready to use"
[22:36] <buttercups> asterix, remove xorg-driver-fglrx,  fglrx-kernel-source,  fglrx-amdcccle in Synaptic.
[22:37] <rww> rebel_kid: cross-reference https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras and http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/cameras
[22:37] <Gnea> hatter243: what about the internal connection to the drive itself? tried reseating the cable?
[22:37] <rebel_kid> rww, thank you :)
[22:37] <onetinsoldier> asterix: never mind that link if you got a good install of the fglrx driver
[22:37] <c0p3rn1c> asterix: I don't know with ati
[22:37] <Cige> uh, I am not familiar with that, I'll try to run it
[22:37] <Koordin> hi i have an annoying problem : i have to type 'sudo dhclient' in order to connect to internet and i have to retype it every minute in order not to be disconnected ; i'm on wifi ; does someone have an idea ?
[22:37] <hatter243> DarkSotM, yeah, I figured it was dead just from the sheer amount of vibration it's giving off. Additionally, I haven't heard a head click any of the times I've plugged it in
[22:37] <hatter243> Gnea, Yessir
[22:37] <asterix> onetinsoldier: I saw that page before and that's no info on uninstalling
[22:38] <asterix> buttercups: I'll try that out and see what happens
[22:38] <DarkSotM> hatter243: lol
[22:38] <onetinsoldier> asterix: never mind that link if you got a good install of the fglrx driver
[22:38] <devilbad> hi i am not able to configure wireless in ubuntu i have compaq c773tu laptop
[22:38] <asterix> onetinsoldier: how would I be sure my fglrx driver is a good install?
[22:38] <Gnea> hatter243: i have also discovered that blank portions of a wall make a good place to insert nails in order to hang the carcasses of dead hard drives on, with their top plates removed to expose the disks themselves in a shiny manner :)
[22:39] <onetinsoldier> asterix: that's all you need. there's is no need to uninstall generic video driver in linux, nor in windows for that matter.
[22:39] <Quadrescence> is "gnome-desktop-environment" just a 'pseudo-package'?
[22:39] <hatter243> Gnea, I like using them as spinner art. 7200rpms make some might pretty pictures
[22:39] <Cige>  I have to go, I'll try to solve it later, thanks for the help
[22:39] <rww> Quadrescence: yes
[22:39] <Koordin> hi i have an annoying problem : i have to type 'sudo dhclient' in order to connect to internet and i have to retype it every minute in order not to be disconnected ; i'm on wifi ; does someone have an idea ?
[22:39] <onetinsoldier> asterix: what is the response from the following command...  glxinfo | grep direct
[22:39] <Gnea> hatter243: haven't tried that one yet
[22:40] <hatter243> Gnea, take off the top plate, provide power so the drives start spinning and color away with your favorite dry erase markers
[22:40] <asterix> onetinsoldier: direct rendering: Yes
[22:40] <qcjn> hi, i gotto reinstall ubuntu. hd dead. so on the other hd, i ll use, there's an old window on it. I don't have to erase it, and partion & everything. Ubuntu will do that on install. I'm i right ?
[22:40] <rww> Quadrescence: that particular package depends on the standard GNOME packages
[22:40] <hatter243> Gnea, careful of your fingers though, it'll do quite a bit of damage if they get caught too close to the business end of that platter
[22:40] <devilbad> how to configure wireless in ubuntu
[22:40] <guest_> I am looking for gui utility like input box with caption. so i can ask some values in gui w/o need of console for console script
[22:40] <hashbrowns> Installed ubuntu and GRUB.  When trying to boot my windows xp pro x64 installation via grub windows complains about NTLDR is missing.  How do I fix this?  I tried copying the files over via my ubuntu installation but no go.  #Windows couldn't help me.
[22:40] <Quadrescence> rww: I am just installing some gnome stuff, and I don't want to uninstall gnome
[22:40] <Gnea> hatter243: oh... i was thinking more along the lines of wearing skin and face protection while letting paint drip from a brush
[22:41] <Quadrescence> rww: err, uninstalling*
[22:41] <hatter243> Gnea, I did not even think of that
[22:41] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok, you are good to go.
[22:41] <hatter243> Gnea, brilliant! I'm going home to decorate the house
[22:41] <Gnea> lol
[22:41] <rww> Quadrescence: Removing the gnome-desktop-environment package won't uninstall any programs or any parts of GNOME. Removing the packages that it depends on will remove various parts. If you don't want those parts, then that's okay.
[22:41] <Koordin> hi i have an annoying problem : i have to type 'sudo dhclient' in order to connect to internet and i have to retype it every minute in order not to be disconnected ; i'm on wifi ; does someone have an idea ?
[22:42] <Quadrescence> rww: Alright, thanks.
[22:42] <buntoaster> What is a good video decoder or encoder how ever you say it ,to change .flv to .mpg or some thing like that for ubuntu?
[22:42] <Gnea> buntoaster: ffmpeg
[22:42] <exodus_ms> !mencoder
[22:42] <onetinsoldier> asterix: i have been looking for a way to tell what version of the flgrx driver you have though.. i'm having trouble finding that
[22:42] <ardchoille> buntoaster: ffmpeg
[22:43] <karlbrun> Hey does anyone know how to start a program automatically after resuming from suspend?
[22:43] <buntoaster> ffmpeg the name of it?
[22:43] <ardchoille> buntoaster:  http://ardchoille.nfshost.com/Linux/VariousCommands
[22:43] <buttercups> onetinsoldier, its fglrxinfo
[22:43] <onetinsoldier> asterix: but you do have hardarwe accelerated X and OpenGL right now tho. you're good to go
[22:43] <Gnea> !info ffmpeg
[22:43] <onetinsoldier> buttercups: i don't think i have that command
[22:43] <devilbad> hey can anyone guide me to configure wireless connection in ubuntu
[22:43] <onetinsoldier> buttercups: i think that's old
[22:44] <onetinsoldier> buttercups: yep, that's outdated
[22:44] <rww> devilbad: paste the output from lspci and lsusb to paste.ubuntu.com, please. We need to know exactly which wifi card chipset you have.
[22:44] <buntoaster> TY all :)
[22:44] <buntoaster> mery cristmas....
[22:44] <hashbrowns> Installed ubuntu and GRUB.  When trying to boot my windows xp pro x64 installation via grub windows complains about NTLDR is missing.  How do I fix this?  I tried copying the files over via my ubuntu installation but no go.  #Windows couldn't help me.
[22:44] <devilbad> i have intel 965 motherboard on laptop
[22:44] <bj_> hi, is it ok to ask questions regarding to wine in here?
[22:44] <Koordin> hi i have an annoying problem : i have to type 'sudo dhclient' in order to connect to internet and i have to retype it every minute in order not to be disconnected ; i'm on wifi ; does someone have an idea ?
[22:45] <rww> bj_: if it's about getting wine to work with ubuntu, then ask here. if it's about wine itself, ask in #winehq
[22:45] <devilbad> hi koordin can you tell me how to configure wi fi in ubuntu
[22:45] <Gnea> hashbrowns: #windows couldn't help you resotre NTLDR?
[22:45] <bj_> rww - thanks ill try there first
[22:45] <Gnea> *restore
[22:46] <buttercups> onetinsoldier, really?  shows the ati version for me in 8.10 or I'm missing something
[22:46] <rww> devilbad: output of lspci and lsusb to paste.ubuntu.com. Motherboard type doesn't tell us what wifi chipset you're using.
[22:46] <samd> anyone have experience with ettercap-gtk? it freezes on me when selecting the network interface
[22:46] <Nick_is_my_name> is there any advantage in upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10?
[22:46] <hashbrowns> Gnea: No.  They gave up because my windows disk doesnt prompt me to push r for recovery console and I did it manually via ubuntu but it didnt work.
[22:47] <RizR> How do I  change entries in places tab of gnome-main-menu?
[22:47] <ardchoille> Nick_is_my_name: 8.04 is a LTA release, so there's an advantage in staying with 8.04
[22:47] <onetinsoldier> asterix: hello.. still here?
[22:47] <ardchoille> s/LTA/LTS/
[22:47] <rww> Nick_is_my_name: Are you having any problems with 8.04? Are there any software upgrades you need in 8.10? If not, then no.
[22:47] <tristan_> RizR: right click the GNOME menu click edit menus
[22:47] <RizR> cannot find anything in /usr/share/gnome-main-menu or ~/.local/share/gnome-main-menu
[22:47] <Gnea> hashbrowns: ....
[22:48] <Kar1na> I need driver for scan D646u.. but I don't find :S.
[22:48] <RizR> tritan_: its in places tab. it doesn't have any such option. that option only works for applications
[22:48] <hashbrowns> Gnea: yes?
[22:48] <Kar1na> someone knows where to find it?
[22:48] <asterix> onetinesoldier: yeah, sorry missed your earlier msg....
[22:49] <shovi> guys how do i Unlock or delete my keyring for nw-manager... it asks me to reenter password every time i go into gnome...
[22:49] <bj_> I have a question, I have a ati video card, in windows the s-video out works fine, in ubuntu s-video works, except for video files where it does not display the video portion of the screen, would wine allow me to have video work properly?
[22:49] <Kidfork> how do you enlarge images in gimp?
[22:49] <onetinsoldier> buttercups: hhmmm, interesting. i installed the fglrx 8.12 driver according to this guide, and after that i installed all the packages except for libamdxvba1, and i don't have that command. i didn't have it with the 8.11 version either.... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[22:50] <asterix> onetinsoldier: yeah I guess I do have opengl because the highest level of desktop acceleration does work
[22:50] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok.,. try this command and what do you get?   dpkg -l '*fglrx*' | awk '/^ii/ {print $3}'
[22:50] <DarkSotM> bj_: I highly dout it
[22:50] <akakaka> sa
[22:50] <tiyowan> asterix: glxinfo | grep direct will confirm opengl availability.
[22:50] <kalel> !IT
[22:50] <kalel> /J #UBUNTU-IT
[22:51] <asterix> onetinsolderi: that gives me 2:8.543-0ubuntu4
[22:51] <asterix> 2:8.543-0ubuntu4
[22:51] <asterix> 2:8.543-0ubuntu4
[22:51] <asterix> 2:8.543-0ubuntu4
[22:51] <FloodBot3> asterix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:51] <onetinsoldier> tiyowan: i already had him do that.. he has it
[22:51] <kalel> /J #ubuntu-it
[22:51] <Joel_> hi, i need help with wireless on my dell e1505 with hardy heron on it that doesn't currently have internet connection on it
[22:51] <onetinsoldier> asterix: hehe.. just one line would have been fine since they're all the same. :-P
[22:51] <shovi> guys how do i Unlock or delete my keyring for nw-manager... it asks me to reenter password every time i go into gnome... its annoying
[22:52] <tiyowan> onetinsoldier: What's the problem that he's having? I missed it.
[22:52] <asterix> onetinsoldier: heh... I realized after I hit enter
[22:52] <liammonahan> "User" is appended to my username when it is displayed in the upper right-hand corner.  HOw do I fix that?
[22:52] <onetinsoldier> asterix: you have a slightly older version than the lastest this is available, possibly somewhat older
[22:52] <rww> Joel_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[22:52] <asterix> onetinsoldier: that's strange because I downloaded from ATI today
[22:53] <onetinsoldier> asterix: yeah.. i think that is a little outdated
[22:53] <hashbrowns> Gnea: So do you have any idea of what I need to do to get this working>
[22:53] <rww> Joel_: though you'll need to get it online somehow to make that guide work. Ethernet, maybe?
[22:53] <onetinsoldier> tiyowan: nothing actually. he just wanted to know what version he has installed
[22:53] <Fiskah_> I'm trying to reinstall ubuntu desktop. When I choose "use whole disk" under the partition screen it does nothing. Therefore I click manual. Can anyone tell me which partitions I have to create for it to work?
[22:53] <guest_> Do you know an utility to prompt user input in gui? It IS in ubuntu default distro. Can't find ((
[22:53] <Gnea> hashbrowns: have you tried going through the installation phase and repairing it that way?
[22:53] <Joel_> hm...
[22:53] <Joel_> access to ethernet is limited
[22:53] <Gnea> hashbrowns: i'm surprized they didn't know about that.
[22:53] <tiyowan> onetinsoldier: Roger.
[22:53] <DarkSotM> shovi: goto system menu > Admin > Auth and look around
[22:53] <onetinsoldier> asterix: if you want the lastest version installed.. then i can guide you through it
[22:54] <n8tuser> Fiskah_ -> what happens when you choose manual?
[22:54] <rww> Fiskah_: you only *need* a root ( / ) partition. You probably also want a swap partition. Nice to have but not necessary: /boot and /home
[22:54] <Joel_> any way to transfer files from one computer to another? perhaps by flash drive?
[22:55] <Fiskah_> n8tuser: I get to the screen where I can create partitions
[22:55] <n8tuser> Joel_ -> yes thats one of the several ways
[22:55] <Joel_> ok
[22:55] <Zambezi> Anyone with ASUS P5Q-E? I'm have a terrible problem just installing Ubuntu on the machine. Freezing all the time, won't find the IDE-harddrive etc. How did you solve it?
[22:55] <hashbrowns> Gnea: What do you mean?  My windows disk will go all the way up to where I select the partition I want to install windows to but there is no repair option.
[22:55] <Zambezi> Installing 8.04 server.
[22:55] <n8tuser> Fiskah_ -> okay, now per someones advise, create a /, /home, swap partitions as minimum,  make them like 8gig 20gig+ and 2x rams size respectively
[22:56] <asterix> onetinsoldier: sure, I'd definitely appriciate the help
[22:56] <ilyas> hi all
[22:56] <DarkSotM> hi
[22:56] <ilyas> help me
[22:56] <rww> !anyone | ilyas
[22:56] <ilyas> ?
[22:56] <n8tuser> Zambezi -> what is an ASUS P5Q-E? is that some kind of special mobo? 64bit?
[22:57] <DarkSotM> ilyas: what yer prob?
[22:57] <maboughey> ilyas what do you need help with?
[22:57] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok.. it may not be necessary really, but when it comes to the fglrx driver. i reboot. for uninstalling and installing. it used to be needed but i don't know if it is anymore, maybe not. just letting you know
[22:57] <ilyas> i newbiw i just install ubuntu 5 but i want upgrade how can i upgrade
[22:57] <rww> n8tuser: it's an Asus motherboard. http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?modelmenu=1&model=2267&l1=3&l2=11&l3=709&l4=0
[22:57] <Gnea> hashbrowns: okay, then you have to actually go through the install process - if all goes well, it should still be able to find the installation and repair it that way
[22:57] <rww> !upgrade | ilyas
[22:58] <onetinsoldier> asterix: are you familiar with the 'dpkg' command at all?
[22:58] <Zambezi> n8tuser: It's a motherboard S775. Here: http://linuxrevolution.blogspot.com/2008/09/ubuntu-and-asus-p5q-e-motherboard.html That didn't help.
[22:58] <hashbrowns> Gnea: Will I lose my data on my windows  partition?
[22:58] <asterix> onetinsoldier: I've used it before but pretty much just copy and pasting from web sites
[22:58] <rww> ilyas: to be honest, Ubuntu 5.x is very old. You might be better off just reinstalling from an 8.04 or 8.10 CD, rather than upgrading
[22:58] <Gnea> hashbrowns: shouldn't, but if you want to make sure, just mount it in ubuntu and backup
[22:58] <Deftone7> DarkSotM: quick question......is there a fix to get my XFX nForce 750a SLI to work with Ubuntu?
[22:58] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok, as long as you are a little familiar with using the terminal we should be ok
[22:59] <DarkSotM> deftone7: off the the top of my head I don't know
[22:59] <rww> ilyas: in addition, 5.x upgrades aren't supported, and I think the packages you need for it might not even be in the repositories any more.
[22:59] <Zambezi> rww: It's not old. It's ancient and unsupported. ;-)
[22:59] <asterix> onetinsoldier: I'm definitely not afraid of the command line :)
[22:59] <ngirard> Hi all. After upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 I can't access my cd writer (formerly /dev/hdd) any longer. Any thoughts ?
[22:59] <maboughey> does anyone know how to remove all pacages on ubuntu server 8.10, so its the base system
[22:59] <onetinsoldier> asterix: this will show you the names of the fglrx driver packages you have installed --> dpkg -l '*fglrx*' | awk '/^ii/ {print $2}'
[22:59] <ikonia> maboughey: define base system?
[22:59] <DarkSotM> Deftone7: thats the mobo chipset right?
[22:59] <Gnea> ngirard: what about /dev/sr0?
[22:59] <ikonia> maboughey: what do you want to remove ?
[22:59] <n8tuser> Zambezi -> its been problematic  with sata drives, from back then, i dont know if it still is,  is that what you are coming up with?
[22:59] <maboughey> basically, remove all installed packages since installing the os
[22:59] <hashbrowns> Gnea: What about the data on my other two drives will they be okay or will there be a risk that I may loose that data as well?
[22:59] <onetinsoldier> asterix: that's what you need to uninstall with the dpkg command..    dpkg --purge    ...each one of those
[23:00] <ngirard> Gnea: Hi, thanks for your feedback. Hmm let me check...
[23:00] <ikonia> maboughey: did you not track what you installed ?
[23:00] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay looks like there's 4 of them...  3 start with fglrx and the third is xorg-driver-fglrx
[23:00] <ikonia> maboughey: there is no "reset to default" button
[23:00] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok.. uninstall all of them
[23:00] <Gnea> hashbrowns: the process only deals with c:
[23:00] <incubii> bloody CPAN, i cant get Net::SSH::Perl to install corectly :|
[23:00] <hashbrowns> Gnea: okay
[23:00] <maboughey> ikonia, thats what i was afraid of, another question, how do you remove mysql?
[23:01] <ikonia> maboughey: the server or the client ?
[23:01] <maboughey> server
[23:01] <ikonia> maboughey remove the mysql-server package
[23:01] <maboughey> thanks
[23:01] <Zambezi> n8tuser: I'm installing from a IDE/PATA DVD to a IDE/PATA HDD, but it just won't work and when I tried to install from USB-memory it didn't find DVD or any drives (I connected an extra SATA2-drive to see what happened).
[23:01] <n8tuser> maboughey -> umm, some close to reset is  installation of debootstrap, you dont get any packages and i dont you think you can boot much with it anyways..
[23:01] <Joel_> i have another problem with hibernating, it doesn't work, lol
[23:01] <ngirard> Gnea: unfortunately I don't have any /dev/sr0
[23:01] <archman> guys did you experience performance gain setting swapiness level near 0 ?
[23:01] <Fiskah_> "Creation of ext3-filesystem on partition 1 on SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) failed." - Can it be the harddrive failing?
[23:02] <Deftone7> DarkSotM: yes that's the chipset
[23:02] <ikonia> archman: what ?
[23:02] <Gnea> ngirard: can you pastebin the output of your dmesg command please?
[23:02] <Deftone7> Also running an XFX GeForce 9800GT
[23:02] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay all 4 are purged
[23:02] <[AfterLife]> folks, why are there several linux-irc-channels and no one 'bout windows? Oo
[23:02] <archman> ikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[23:02] <Deftone7> and 2GB OCZ SLI Edition RAM
[23:02] <n8tuser> Zambezi -> i have not used DVD, i assume they are same as livecd, but if not, you may have to get a livecd cdrom.
[23:02] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok, you can reboot if you want.. i'll leave that up to you
[23:03] <asterix> onetinsoldier: it did give a few errors about not removing nonempty folders
[23:03] <maboughey> Is there any command to show all packages installed on server version?
[23:03] <incubii> i got the HTS voices working with Festival last night. damn they are good
[23:03] <Zambezi> n8tuser: I'm installing from a CD-medium, but in a DVD-drive. More clear?
[23:03] <DarkSotM> Deftone7: Is there something spcificly wrong (ie error msg or somethin?)
[23:03] <onetinsoldier> anyone here know if rebooting is need for the flgrx drivers install/uninstall?
[23:03] <asterix> onetinsoldier: should I go and delete all the folders it mentioned?
[23:03] <kinections> does anybodyhere know about what webcams work with skype? i have a couple of webcams that all seem to work with Ekiga, but no skype.
[23:03] <Joel_> i have another problem with hibernating, it doesn't work
[23:04] <ikonia> archman: if you manage your application swap level well you can see a performance gain, you can also kill your system if youset it up wrong
[23:04] <n8tuser> Zambezi -> you are fully booted off of the livecd right? so can you do an fdisk of your drives to see if there are anything on it?
[23:04] <Gnea> kinections: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams
[23:04] <onetinsoldier> asterix: mmm, i don't think would bother. the new driver install might just put them right back in. what dirs did it mention?
[23:04] <asterix> onetinsoldier: the two folders it refers to are /usr/share/ati and /etc/ati
[23:04] <n8tuser> Zambezi -> or run gparted or cfdisk   as root of course
[23:04] <kinections> Gnea: thanks
[23:04] <onetinsoldier> asterix: the new driver will just put them right back
[23:04] <ngirard> Gnea: hmm, looking at dmesg's output, it seems like strange things happened when I tried to plug in a usb hard disk a while ago
[23:04] <Deftone7> DarkSotM: no error messages....i can boot the live cd and even connect with my wireless card. it's just when I go to install from the livecd it doesn't recognize any partitions at all...not even my working fine vista partition.
[23:04] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay rebotting now
[23:04] <onetinsoldier> asterix: so, no
[23:04] <ngirard> Gnea: I might try to reboot & see what happens
[23:05] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok, cool see you in a minute
[23:05] <ngirard> Gnea: too bad for the uptime ;-)
[23:05] <Zambezi> n8tuser: It's the Server edition. I'm not going to install X on it at all.
[23:05] <Gnea> ngirard: what are you at?
[23:05] <wiijii> Evening all. Can someone please give me some ideas for transporting SSH private keys? I want to disable password logins, but may need to login from various Linux/XP machines
[23:05] <ngirard> Gnea: sorry ?
[23:05] <Gnea> ngirard: your uptime :)
[23:05] <[AfterLife]> kinections: i've got a build-in webcam and skype works perfectly :D the only problem is the mic..^^
[23:05] <Deftone7> i'm gonna try hardy one more time
[23:05] <ikonia> wiijii: shell script to move keys to an open location then a cron job on every machine that moves keys into place
[23:06] <sisif> Anyone know any good howto for installing a Inte6945 driver ? Thanks !
[23:06] <ikonia> wiijii: shared /home directories also
[23:06] <ngirard> Gnea: 127 days... not much
[23:06] <ikonia> wiijii: rsync also
[23:06] <ikonia> wiijii: is that enough options ?
[23:06] <ngirard> Gnea: thanks for your time, once again. Seeya !
[23:06] <Gnea> ngirard: or you could just install the pastebinit program and save it
[23:06] <wiijii> ikonia I'm not sure what you mean there I'm sorry. Move keys to open location? My private key?
[23:06] <DarkSotM> deftone7: is there a setting in the bios for a compatibility mode for sata or anything that might change how it reports the drive to the os?
[23:06] <Gnea> or not
[23:06] <ikonia> wiijii: your prive machine should only stay on the client
[23:06] <ikonia> wiijii: if thats your suggestion I suggest shared home dirs or rsync only
[23:07] <Deftone7> yes there is...tons of tweaks with this motherboard
[23:07] <wiijii> ikonia I need my private key to login from a host that is unknown to the server, right?
[23:07] <Deftone7> let me reboot and investigate....brb
[23:07] <ikonia> wiijii: correct
[23:07] <Joel_> does anybody else have a problem with sleep mode or hibernating?
[23:07] <ikonia> Joel_: many people
[23:08] <ikonia> Joel_: there is a reasonable ammount of bugs with it
[23:08] <wiijii> ikonia So without setting up a new private key for that host, how can I safely transport my private key? Say I needed to login from an unfamiliar XP box. Or say, my dad's Linux box
[23:08] <Zambezi> n8tuser: I'm going to try Fedora now. I read on Asus homepage their kernel fixed the bug. The most important thing now is to see everything works fine. The Fedora goes bye bye.
[23:08] <[AfterLife]> i've got, but its cause my swap-part is too small
[23:08] <ikonia> wiijii: shared home dir's from a central location
[23:08] <Joel_> so the best bet is probably to just shut down
[23:08] <wiijii> ikonia Could you give me an example? I'm not sure what you mean
[23:08] <Joel_> ?
[23:09] <snowman> how do i change the GRUB default setting? I was told to look in /boot/grub/menu.lst but now that im in there im stuck
[23:09] <ikonia> wiijii: you have all your machines mounting /home or the users home dir's on windows from a shared central samba/nfs server
[23:09] <ikonia> wiijii: so when you login your home dir with your private key is preseted to every host in your home dir
[23:09] <wiijii> ikonia Ah OK, but what if I'm logging in from a different physical location? Another office, etc?
[23:09] <johnpaul> hello everyone
[23:10] <ikonia> wiijii: you can still have remote home dir's if you set it up
[23:10] <wiijii> ikonia Over what protocol/software?
[23:10] <ikonia> wiijii: over tcp ip networking and samba or nfs as I said
[23:10] <wiijii> ikonia Having remote access to my home dir would pose a new problem
[23:10] <onetinsoldier> asterix: wb
[23:11] <onetinsoldier> asterix: wb, everything ok?
[23:11] <asterix> onetinsoldier: ty...  I'm in generic graphics mode now and my resolution is a little messed up but otherwise it's working
[23:11] <wiijii> ikonia I'm wondering how I can transport my key on my person. I don't want to open up my home dir (with my private key on it)
[23:11] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok... i hear it
[23:11] <ikonia> wiijii: use a usb pen
[23:11] <ikonia> wiijii: and you shouldn't open up your home dir
[23:12] <wiijii> ikonia: Well no... but that was your suggestion, wasn't it? I was thinking USB. But then how to secure the USB, so it can be accessed from Win/Lin?
[23:12] <mylisto> argh...damn webcam and skype!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[23:12] <ikonia> wiijii: I didn't say open up your home dir, your directory permisssions should be 777
[23:12] <ikonia> wiijii: 700 sorry
[23:12] <ikonia> wiijii: and to be honest we are getting beyond the scope of ubuntu now as your getting silly with your security situation,
[23:12] <wiijii> ikonia But it would still be exposed
[23:12] <Gnea> mylisto: please calm down.
[23:12] <ikonia> wiijii: no it wouldn't be exposed, only to your user name
[23:12] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok, now go to this web page. only think about it is the name of libstdc++, the version is newer so now it's libstdc++6(although the old 5 is still available)  -->  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[23:13] <mylisto> my bad gnea:
[23:13] <mylisto> Anyhow...I installed gtskfakevideo to get skype working
[23:13] <wiijii> ikonia ... Well yeah, that's what I meant
[23:13] <mylisto> Now I want to uninstall it...
[23:13] <mylisto> just not sure how
[23:13] <Gnea> mylisto: never heard of gtskfakevideo
[23:13] <ikonia> wiijii: how is that a problem, your user HAS to be able to read your key, so what do you expect, how can you read a key without giving JUST your user access to it ?
[23:14] <onetinsoldier> asterix: of course you know where your ati driver file is.. right? and it's name is... ati-driver-installer-8-12-x86.x86_64.run  ...correct?
[23:14] <quentusrex_> How do I install the nvidia binary drivers for 8.10? preferably through the command line.
[23:14] <asterix> onetinsoldier: yes, that I the file I got from ATI earlier today
[23:14] <ikonia> quentusrex_: why from the command line
[23:14] <wiijii> ikonia Because the machine that normally carries my private key need not be exposed in any way. There is no need for remote access to it, by my user or anyone else
[23:14] <ikonia> quentusrex_: the system -> administration -> hardware gui will do it
[23:15] <Gnea> mylisto: you mean this? http://code.google.com/p/gstfakevideo/
[23:15] <ikonia> wiijii: how is giving your user only, access to your own home dir exposed ?
[23:15] <mylisto> yeah
[23:15] <quentusrex_> ikonia, because that gui doesn't display the nvidia driver...
[23:15] <Slart> quentusrex_: there are the restricted drivers.. I think that's from gui only.. not sure though.. then there's envy-ng.. that's either command line or gui
[23:15] <wiijii> ikonia: In terms of opening a port for that access
[23:15] <ikonia> wiijii: your user HAS to beable to read the key, so it has to have read access....how is that exposed ?
[23:15] <eugen> co sie dzieje
[23:15] <ikonia> wiijii: then I suggest you get a reality check on security
[23:15] <Gnea> mylisto: i would imagine a simple  make uninstall  would do it
[23:15] <wiijii> ikonia I realise that. But I want to login from another machine, that does not even have my user on it
[23:15] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok...  sudo -i and enter password  ...then,  cd /usr/local ; mkdir ati-fglrx-driver-8-12 ; cd ati-fglrx-driver-8-12   ..then tell me when your there
[23:15] <crimsun> Torgoton: can you take a digital photo of the panic?
[23:15] <Slart> !pl | eugen
[23:16] <eugen> po co tyle gadania
[23:16] <ikonia> wiijii: then you should setup a secure environment with a proper security framework if your that bothered and being that blind to security
[23:16] <Torgoton> crimsun: Sure. Where can I send that?
[23:16] <wiijii> ikonia: Wow...
[23:16] <wiijii> ikonia: I don't think you understand what I'm talking about
[23:16] <ikonia> wiijii: I understand tottally
[23:16] <wiijii> hehe
[23:16] <asterix> onetinsoldier: ok there
[23:16] <crimsun> Torgoton: http://imagebin.ca/
[23:17] <quentusrex_> Why does the System->Hardware Drivers menu not detect my nvidia card?
[23:17] <Torgoton> crimsun: If it helps, I can set up for serial capture too.
[23:18] <crimsun> Torgoton: great, we'll take that route, too, if we need to
[23:18] <wiijii> Does anyone else possibly know how to secure an SSH key on a usb stick? #ssh and #openssh are unresponsive, feel free to direct me somewhere that might be able to help
[23:18] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok, now you just follow the guide that's onthat web page i gave you.. first thing is --> apt-get install dpkg-dev debhelper libstdc++5 dkms build-essential cdbs fakeroot   (although i don't use fakeroot even though i should)
[23:18] <onetinsoldier> asterix: wait
[23:18] <Gnea> wiijii: try the scp command
[23:18] <onetinsoldier> asterix: that should be   libstdc++6
[23:18] <Slart> what's the general "best practices" for handling a firewall with some NAT and a few pretty simple rules.. I'm not to fond of firestarter and it's friends.. I'm thinking of creating a script that sets it all up and running that every now and then.. any better suggestions?
[23:18] <ilyas> sorry i always disconnect
[23:18] <wiijii> Gnea - for USB storage of a SSH key?
[23:19] <Gnea> wiijii: yeah, just scp it to the device
[23:19] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay...  it's downloading now
[23:19] <joeb3_> Slart, tried firewall builder?
[23:19] <Slart> wiijii: "secure" it ? secure it from what? from who?
[23:19] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok. cool.
[23:19] <asterix> onetinsoldier: what does the fakeroot command do?
[23:19] <Ghoul> onetinsoldier: thnx, i took a look but now unecessary :)
[23:19] <Slart> joeb3_: nope.. I'll take a look
[23:19] <wiijii> Gnea: OK. What's the difference between scp and cp in that case then? with a USB stick?
[23:19] <Ghoul> (those sis drivers thingis if you remember)
[23:20] <ilyas> i new has compile kernel 2.6.20 in ubuntu 5 for detect my modem but why modem always disconnect
[23:20] <wiijii> Slart Well I want to carry my SSH key (possibly) so I can login to an SSH server without password logins from places where I don't have a user and privaet key
[23:20] <onetinsoldier> asterix: it's four building(compiling) source code in a faked out root environment(more secure)
[23:20] <onetinsoldier> for*
[23:20] <ikonia> wiijii: a usb key is the only way
[23:20] <Gnea> wiijii: well i took a guess that you wanted the key copied in a secure fashion to the usb stick
[23:20] <wiijii> I realise it's just adding another weakness I suppose, even if the key is password protected etc
[23:20] <ikonia> wiijii: how else can you cary data around
[23:20] <Slart> wiijii: ok.. but if someone else gets your usb key they shouldn't be able to use it?
[23:20] <asterix> onetinsoldier: ok download is complete...  do the next line starting with ./ati now?  any changes I should make?
[23:20] <wiijii> Slart Yes. But I don't know if that's feasible
[23:20] <Ghoul> here's the thing; i restarted with the new settings; upon boot i got an error message saying that screen and graphics card could not be detected correctly (nothing new.. my xorg.conf didn't look like it's gonna work; but then a gui util popped out (looked a bit different than grandr) and it let me select a graphics card and drivers for both the monitors; i guestimated for both and after another restart WOW 2 monitors worked!!
[23:21] <Gnea> wiijii: as long as they don't have the login info, how are they going to use it?
[23:21] <Slart> wiijii: well.. you could always get a huuuge dog.. but technically I would say it will be hard
[23:21] <onetinsoldier> asterix: only where you need to put in the <version>  for that it's,  8.10
[23:21] <wiijii> Gnea - Yes, sorry, I meant that I want to transfer to usb and then protect somehow
[23:21] <wiijii> Slart Heh yeah
[23:21] <onetinsoldier> asterix: iirc... tell me if that doesn't work
[23:21] <ikonia> wiijii: as I said you need a reality check
[23:21] <Torgoton> crimsun: http://imagebin.ca/view/vOGDUyF.html
[23:22] <Ghoul> however, here's where it gets interesting. by default i don't type on qwerty, i type in USA - Colemak layout; but upon the fresh boot with 2 monitors my keyboard layout reverted back to qwerty, i check out in System > Preferences > Keyboard and it says indeed USA - Colemak.. i delete the layout and add the same USA - Colemak and it works, however after the next restart the same problem happens, i'm back to qwerty :/
[23:22] <asterix> onetinsoldier: do I need to put the file from ATI in the folder I created?
[23:22] <wiijii> ikonia: Thankyou for your suggestions, I'm asking someone else now.
[23:22] <edju> Is there a stripped-down version of gnome available?  ubuntu-desktop installs too much.
[23:22] <Slart> wiijii: you could always come up with some way of obscuring the information.. ie have a gazillion different keys on the usb stick and only use a specific one
[23:22] <ikonia> wiijii: as I told you earlier this is offtopic for ubuntu
[23:22] <ikonia> wiijii: we've moved way beyond the topic
[23:22] <onetinsoldier> asterix: yes... either move it there or cpoy it
[23:22] <wiijii> ikonia Why are you talking to me about it then?
[23:23] <wiijii> Slart Yes true, that's a bit unwieldy though. I was just wondering if the passphrase would be checked on XP too
[23:23] <n8tuser> wiijii -> you can create a file using dd on dd, then us mkfs  of the type you like on the usb then mount that a aes or another encryptable scheme, then put files on it, its an encrypted file system..
[23:23] <ikonia> wiijii: I'm not I'm telling you - it's not feasable with your current requirments (as I said earlier) and it's offtopic
[23:23] <tonsofpcs> 8.04 (II), how do I set a static IP and make it so that NetworkManager doesn't try to disconnect and reconnect on login?  [all wired, no wireless, auto-boots after power outages (often), nothing network needs to be user configured]
[23:23] <tonsofpcs> err, 8.10 rather
[23:23] <ilyas> where repository for update my ubuntu 5
[23:23] <onetinsoldier> asterix: i just do stuff like this in /usr/local/src... but you can do it anywhere actually. in your home directory if you want to
[23:23] <crimsun> Torgoton: awesome, thanks
[23:23] <wiijii> n8tuser Then I need the key for that encrypted fs... heh
[23:23] <ikonia> wiijii: this is offtopic, please stop
[23:23] <Ghoul> NOW Question; why does my kbd layout switch ot qwerty after reboot when by default i have only 1 layout USA - Colemak in System > preferences > keyboard > layouts
[23:23] <asterix> onetinsoldier: this is annoying...  I right click the file, navigate to the other folder and then right click to paste but it's greyed out.  It seems like copy and paste is always kinda crazy in linux.
[23:24] <Slart> wiijii: lets face it.. you're carrying the key with you.. either you get a small device that in some way handles the security (something like those bank code thingies) or you use your own brain to do the security.. either way it will get messy
[23:24] <Ghoul> as explained, doesn't really switch it still says 'USA - Colemak' but it's qwerty
[23:24] <onetinsoldier> asterix: and dangit.. i messed that up to.. i told you to go to /usr/local, which is ok, but i meant /usr/local/src
[23:24] <Ghoul> and after removing and adding it again it goes back to colemak
[23:24] <wiijii> Slart Hmmm quite possibly
[23:24] <wiijii> Slart So SSH keys are only really useful from fixed clients
[23:24] <onetinsoldier> asterix: is the file own by root? are you root user when you are trying to move or copy it?
[23:25] <ikonia> wiijii: last request, please stop now
[23:25] <crimsun> Torgoton: sec, cross-referencing something
[23:25] <asterix> onetinsoldier: I'm doing it in the gui and it's giving me permission denied...  give me a sec to do this through the terminal
[23:25] <Slart> wiijii: eh? ssh doesn't care if you're on a fixed client or not.. it's all about wether you can keep the key secure or not
[23:25] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ls -l <file> to see ownership
[23:25] <Torgoton> crimsun: Great. Getting a sip of water myself.
[23:25] <TyGRuS> Hi guys, I am trying to get xulrunner 1.8.1.13 but synpatic is showing 1.8.1.16 - is there a way to get other version?
[23:25] <wiijii> Slart Heh exactly, hence the problem
[23:25] <Slart> wiijii: you can carry a laptop with you and it will be no more secure than that usb stick.. it's just storage for the key
[23:25] <ilyas> nobody answer
[23:25] <ikonia> Slart: wiijii PLEASE stop this discussion
[23:26] <wiijii> ikonia - There's really no need to be so rude. I'll stop my SSH discussion
[23:26] <ikonia> Slart: this is way beyond scope
[23:26] <ikonia> wiijii: I've asked you 3 times politly - thats not being rude
[23:26] <tonsofpcs> 8.10 (II), how do I set a static IP and make it so that NetworkManager doesn't try to disconnect and reconnect on login?  [all wired, no wireless, auto-boots after power outages (often), nothing network needs to be user configured]
[23:26] <Slart> indeed... I'll stop
[23:26] <wiijii> ikonia Your previous comments also. Cheers anyway
[23:26] <onetinsoldier> asterix: if you do this as the root user in the terminal will won't have any permission problem. just be careful as root user is all. don't go deleting anything you shouldn't be deleting
[23:26] <wiijii> SSH discussion over
[23:26] <n8tuser> tonsofpcs -> put them in  /etc/network/interfaces    also man interfaces
[23:27] <ilyas> why stop
[23:27] <tonsofpcs> n8tuser - i did that,  networkmanager still fights and reconnects them as dhcp
[23:27] <alix_> can i ask wine questions here?
[23:27] <meekatron> hello havin problems with ssh cant connect rsa key has changed but i cant find the /home/user/.ssh/known_hosts file to fix it anyone have any ideas could it be somewhere else
[23:27] <meoblast001> how do you burn a disc from the command line?
[23:27] <n8tuser> tonsofpcs -> post your /etc/network/interfaces file and lets see
[23:27] <ikonia> meoblast001: cdrecord
[23:27] <mylisto> gnea: I installed gtskfakevideo via terminal
[23:27] <mylisto> how can I uninstall it?
[23:27] <meoblast001> ikonia: k thanx
[23:27] <Gnea> mylisto: yes, but what commands did you use?
[23:27] <mylisto> um...
[23:27] <n8tuser> meekatron -> which side changed?
[23:28] <onetinsoldier> asterix: so, where are you at now?
[23:28] <Gnea> mylisto: try the history command
[23:28] <oskar-> meoblast001, maybe you want to use mkisofs before cdrecord
[23:28] <alix_> sudo apt-get remove "package-name"
[23:28] <mylisto> svn checkout http://blah blah
[23:28] <e-head> Hello.
[23:28] <Gnea> mylisto: yeah, and then you had to compile it, right?
[23:28] <mylisto> yeah
[23:28] <meoblast001> oskar-: i have the ubuntu ISO on my server and would like to burn it to disk on an external cd burner
[23:28] <onetinsoldier> asterix: let me have you move the ati-fglrx-driver-8-12 directory to /usr/local/src
[23:29] <meoblast001> oskar-: what command would i want to use
[23:29] <asterix> onetinsoldier: I've got the file in the folder but ti's giving me command not found
[23:29] <alix_> mylisto: sudo apt-get remove "package-name"
[23:29] <asterix> onetinsoldier: I am in usr/local/src
[23:29] <oskar-> meoblast001, cdrecord file.iso
[23:29] <tonsofpcs> n8tuser - pastebin or #flood?
[23:29] <meoblast001> ok thanx
[23:29] <mylisto> alix_: just tried that
[23:29] <mylisto> it can't find gstfakevideo
[23:29] <asterix> onetinsoldier: I also edited the command so it's 8-12-x86 instead of what was on the web page and tried it without the ./ at the beginning
[23:29] <easteregg> hi .. i know how to select the best mirror using the gui, but how would i do it from the command line? i am running ubuntu server.. thanks!
[23:29] <oskar-> meoblast001, perhaps you need options to specify the burning device... cdrecord will tell you
[23:29] <therealnanotube> hey, anyone here using WICD instead of network-manager?
[23:29] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok.. so you are in /usr/local/src/ati-fglrx-driver-8-12 ??? type in   pwd  to see for sure :-)
[23:30] <Gnea> alix_: gstfakevideo doesn't have any binary packages or builds
[23:30] <meekatron> n8tuser: to be honest i dont know when i connect to the pc from my laptop over lan it is fine but through external ip i get this message
[23:30] <e-head> How can I get rid of the "network monitor" from the notification area so it won't come back again?
[23:30] <alix_> ok
[23:30] <asterix> onetinsoldier: /usr/local/src/ati-fglrx-driver-8-12
[23:30] <norbert79> Evening
[23:30] <tonsofpcs> brb
[23:30] <mylisto> gnea: so it doesn't have any binary packages or builds...
[23:30] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok.. you changed the name of the .run file?
[23:30] <mylisto> not really sure what that means
[23:31] <alix_> mylisto: have you googled it?
[23:31] <asterix> onetinsoldier:  ./ati-driver-installer-8.12-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/8.10 is the command I ran
[23:31] <onetinsoldier> ok.. what happend?
[23:31] <therealnanotube> e-head: network monitor, or network manager?
[23:31] <e-head> NetworkManager
[23:31] <onetinsoldier> asterix:  ok.. what happend?
[23:32] <asterix> onetinsoldier: ati-driver-installer-8-12-x86.x86_64.run is the filename when I do ls
[23:32] <nat2610> I don't know where I pressed or what I did but basically now, the numeric pad on my keyboard control the mouse , how do I go back to normal ?
[23:32] <meekatron> n8tuser: i got it sorted the known_hosts file was on the laptop just deleted it and all fine
[23:32] <Joel_> hey, i have a question about the dell 1505 wireless tutorial, hasn't ndiswrapper been updated since?... a lot?
[23:32] <asterix> onetinsoldier: -bash: ./ati-driver-installer-8.12-x86.x86_64.run: No such file or directory
[23:32] <e-head> I take it that it gets automatically started with my gnome session somehow.
[23:32] <crimsun> Torgoton: please try booting with noreplace-paravirt appended to the kernel command line
[23:33] <Torgoton> crimsun: oooh. OK. Will take a bit.
[23:33] <mosiac> so ive been reading the man files but im having a little trouble with giving my user permission to access a microsd card
[23:33] <therealnanotube> e-head: in system -> preferences -> sessions, you can uncheck it. it will be called something obvious (i forget what, and i uninstalled it in favor of WICD, so don't have that entry anymore)
[23:33] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok.. you need to make the file an executable..   chmod +x ati-driver-installer-8.12-x86.x86_64.run
[23:33] <alix_> Am I allowed to ask questions about Wine here?
[23:33] <onetinsoldier> asterix: then try again
[23:33] <psymon119> i hope someone can help me
[23:33] <therealnanotube> alix_: don't see why not. :)
[23:33] <meoblast001> oskar-: it cant figure out which one is the write drive... and i dont know how to specify
[23:33] <Torgoton> crimsun: Starting...
[23:34] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay it's generating a package now
[23:34] <psymon119> i just installed 8.10 x64 and when i run ubuntu, the screen goes black, then comes back to normal
[23:34] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok! cool
[23:34] <Torgoton> crimsun: MUCH better so far!
[23:34] <psymon119> i've installed 8.04 in the past with the same problem
[23:34] <alix_> would it still work if i replaced the cmd.exe in wine with my own cmd.exe?
[23:34] <danand> alix_: #wine-hq??
[23:34] <maboughey> is there a apt-get command to show all installed packages?
[23:34] <psymon119> however, i had fiesty fawn before that and it worked fine
[23:34] <DarkSotM> mosiac: try adding user(or users forget which) to the fstab entry
[23:34] <danand> maboughey: dpkg -l
[23:34] <maboughey> thanks
[23:35] <Joel_> hey, i have a question about the dell 1505 wireless tutorial, hasn't ndiswrapper been updated since?... a lot?
[23:35] <onetinsoldier> asterix: when it's all done.. you can do...   ls   ...and you'll see all the packages it built that you can choose to install
[23:35] <psymon119> any ideas?
[23:35] <BCM43> when running startx on a Powerbook G4 I get the error "VGE(0): V_BIOS address 0x55580 out of range. It does not start.
[23:35] <asterix> onetinsoldier: it looks like it made 6 deb packages
[23:35] <tonsofpcs> n8tuser http://paste.ubuntu.com/91885/
[23:35] <e-head> therealnanotube: thanks. found it.
[23:35] <alix_> #wine-hq
[23:35] <der|kunstler> any good remote assistance in ubuntu that doesn't require the user to forward ports ?
[23:35] <therealnanotube> e-head: cool. :)
[23:36] <Torgoton> crimsun: Still going, so that was very helpful. Googling that param shows lots of people having similar-ish issue. Do you have a link for an explanation of what that option does, please?
[23:36] <therealnanotube> alix_: type "/join #wine-hq" (withotu quotes) to join the channel
[23:36] <cr4shc0de> hey
[23:36] <psymon119> my screen goes black and comes back on, can someone help?
[23:36] <psymon119> it doesnt' turn my monitor off
[23:36] <psymon119> just goes black
[23:36] <cr4shc0de> Anyone got Ubuntu for eeepc because my sound does not work
[23:36] <mylisto> couldn't find anything on removing gstfakevideo
[23:36] <psymon119> i thought it might be my SLI setup
[23:37] <psymon119> but even turning that off, and even removing a card temp. doesn't fix it
[23:37] <asterix> onetinsoldier: is there a specific one I should double click on to install or just do all of them?
[23:37] <mosiac> DarkSotM: thats a bit more than the level im at right now i know what you mean but i dunno how to do it.
[23:37] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok.. so did mine. i installed the following, although not all are really needed...  dpkg -i fglrx-amdcccle* fglrx-kernel-source* fglrx-modaliases* xorg-driver-fglrx* xorg-driver-fglrx-dev*
[23:38] <cr4shc0de> anyone no how to fix sound on eeepc
[23:38] <DarkSotM> mosiac:  Is there a fstab entry for it?
[23:38] <mosiac> no i have to manually mount it each time
[23:38] <BCM43> when running startx on a Powerbook G4 I get the error "VGE(0): V_BIOS address 0x55580 out of range
[23:38] <Boten_ana> !owner 7976
[23:38] <psymon119> my screen keeps blinking
[23:38] <psymon119> can someone help?
[23:38] <der|kunstler> any remote desktop in ubuntu without port forwarding ?
[23:39] <Boten_ana> !owner7976
[23:39] <asterix> onetinsoldier: the web page instructions says to just install the xord-driver and kernal-source...  if I just do those two and see how things run I should be fine?
[23:39] <psymon119> port forwarding isn't that hard
[23:39] <onetinsoldier> asterix: yes
[23:39] <mosiac> psymon119: what kind of vid card do you have?
[23:39] <psymon119> 9600 GT
[23:39] <psymon119> i have 2, running in sli, i've disabled it though
[23:39] <Adola> Hello!  I'm running xubuntu on a laptop I'm unfamiliar with.  How can I check what kind of video card I have so I can get drivers necassary to increase the low resolution?
[23:39] <psymon119> even taken a card out and it didn't change a thing
[23:39] <psymon119> it's not the SLI
[23:39] <oskar-> meoblast001, "dmesg | grep writer", then "cdrecord dev=/dev/xxx file.iso"
[23:40] <Zelda> Hello All, Im back into action!
[23:40] <onetinsoldier> asterix: oh.. wait. i think you also need...   dpkg -i fglrx-modaliases_8.561-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb  !!!
[23:40] <asterix> onetinsoldier: Error! DKMS tree already contains: fglrx-8.561
[23:40] <psymon119> and the card should be compatible
[23:40] <mosiac> psymon119: im just wondering if maybe its the "graphical enhancements" in the newer versions
[23:40] <psymon119> i've disabled them too
[23:40] <der|kunstler> psymon119, well, isn't that hard when you own the router, but when you're on a public place where you don't own the router ? :)
[23:40] <bluntz> BCM43 -  edit your xorg.conf to correct verticle and horiz frequency-
[23:40] <crimsun> Torgoton: http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0704.3/3521.html
[23:40] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok,, hang on.. try installing that package i told you that you need.. first
[23:40] <psymon119> der|kunstler, true that, i really dont' know what to tell you
[23:40] <BCM43> bluntz: how?
[23:41] <der|kunstler> psymon119, heh, it's ok :P
[23:41] <onetinsoldier> asterix: or, try installing all three in the same command
[23:41] <BCM43> bluntz: and how would I know what they should be?
[23:41] <bluntz> got to find out correct values first
[23:41] <tonsofpcs> n8tuser - see anything wrong?
[23:41] <bluntz> look it up
[23:41] <BCM43> bluntz: ok
[23:41] <bluntz> google is your friend
[23:41] <crimsun> Torgoton: there's also discussion from 2008-08-22, also bug 246067
[23:41] <Joel_> hey, i have a question about the dell 1505 wireless tutorial, hasn't ndiswrapper been updated since?... a lot? and if so, shouldn't there be an updated version of the tutorial?
[23:42] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay I redid the first one after the other one you listed and there were no errors...  now to do the xorg
[23:42] <Torgoton> crimsun: hehe thanks. Very precise, but still not helpful to me. Again, thank you for getting me going. My efforts will be logged here: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_on_a_ThinkPad_750P
[23:42] <tonsofpcs> Joel_ - my 1505 'just worked'
[23:42] <bluntz> get refresh rate while ur @ it
[23:42] <crimsun> Torgoton: ok, thanks
[23:43] <Joel_> really?
[23:43] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok, go for it now. i'm glad to see you udate to this version of the driver. that other one you had was too old for a 4870 card... i have a 4850 myself
[23:43] <Adola> I need help with resolution problems.
[23:43] <Deftone7> DarkSotM: o.k it's a motherboard issue
[23:43] <onetinsoldier> update*
[23:43] <psymon119> i guess i'll just have to be ubuntu-less until i can find a solution
[23:43] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay no errors  so now I'll do the aticonfig
[23:43] <n8tuser> tonsofpcs -> sorry, i stepped out, did you paste anything?
[23:43] <psymon119> i'll check back in an hour or so
[23:43] <BCM43> bluntz: I googled Powerbook 12" horizonatal and vertical frequency and did not find anything
[23:43] <tonsofpcs> n8tuser - yup
[23:43] <tonsofpcs> n8tuser http://paste.ubuntu.com/91885/
[23:43] <psymon119> thanks for your help guys
[23:43] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok. sounds good
[23:43] <tonsofpcs> [no problem]
[23:43] <DarkSotM> deftone7: You find out anything?
[23:43] <bluntz> go to mac
[23:43] <bluntz> and check specs
[23:43] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay saved and now to reboot
[23:43] <BCM43> bluntz: ok
[23:43] <Deftone7> I tried open suse 32bit and 64bit, Ubuntu Intrepid and Hardy with the same results
[23:44] <crimsun> Torgoton: essentially, using that boot option disables on-the-fly patching enabling paravirt support
[23:44] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ook. see you in a minute
[23:44] <Deftone7> they're not detecting my sata hard drive on the motherboard
[23:44] <DarkSotM> deftone7: was there any kind of setting in the bios?
[23:44] <Hoxor> hi
[23:44] <ngirard> Gnea: Hi again. Rebooted but no chance: still no cd writer ! Here's my dmesg: http://pastebin.ca/1292671
[23:44] <Gnea> Deftone7: is it some sort of RAID?
[23:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Deftone7 did you try changing the boot parameter with F6 and adding all_generic_ide
[23:45]  * Hoxor has a question
[23:45] <n8tuser> tonsofpcs -> you wanted it active at boot time?  add  auto eth0  at end of section,  also do not have two interfaces on at same time on same subnet with same ip adress range, your host will get confuse as to which nic to take to the gateway
[23:45] <peaces> anyone know why after i hibernate my computer, and come back the wireless will not work?
[23:45] <bluntz> now if it was me I prolly enter xorg.conf powerbook in google
[23:45] <bluntz> hehe
[23:45] <Deftone7> well DarkSotM, the bios is so deep that i'm sure there might be something that I'm missing
[23:45] <maboughey> peaces what ubuntu are you using
[23:45] <n8tuser> tonsofpcs -> decide either eth0 or eth1 you will use - one at a time
[23:45] <tonsofpcs> n8tuser - i had no problems with that style connection on sarge
[23:45] <peaces> maboughey: intrepid
[23:46] <cmdbbq> i am running 8.04 with rhythmbox 0.11.5 and i want to add a podcast, however when i attempt to do so no error is produced, but no podcast is added to the displayed list
[23:46] <Hoxor> does anybody know why my screen turns black after starting wolfenstein enemy territory?
[23:46] <DarkSotM> deftone7: try what Jack_Sparrow says add all_generic_ide
[23:46] <Hoxor> or warsow
[23:46] <Hoxor> and some other progs
[23:46] <tonsofpcs> for now i'll kill it though, as the second nic isn't currently attached
[23:46] <ocRob> whoa wolfenstein
[23:46] <n8tuser> tonsofpcs -> well you will with ubuntu, am surprised your sarge is not confused, with two paths to same gateway
[23:46] <maboughey> peaces: what wireless model are you using?
[23:46] <harry> I cant get my taskbar panel icons to go where I want them..
[23:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Deftone7 and there is probably a bios option to treat sata as ide
[23:47] <Deftone7> check it out http://www.motherboards.org/reviews/motherboards/1801_5.html
[23:47] <Gnea> ngirard: check the cabling? get a new cable? does it power up? can you eject it manually?
[23:47] <Deftone7> is there something there that i'm missing?
[23:47] <Guest74210> I cant get my taskbar panel icons to go where I want them.
[23:47] <DarkSotM> deftone7: let me see...
[23:47] <peaces> maboughey: Atheros AR242x
[23:47] <trifecta> hi
[23:47] <Deftone7> honestly this is a new build so I'm new to the world of the depth that this motherboard has
[23:48] <bluntz> guest uncheck align desktop
[23:48] <bluntz> hehe
[23:48] <ngirard> Gnea: all these are good advices, but I checked em all already :-/
[23:48] <trifecta> I'v got a question
[23:48] <tonsofpcs> n8tuser - it was fine with it, i think it actually was load balanced and fallover on fail... forget the exact settings, that machine died [and is why i bought the one in question here].  BRB, rebooting
[23:48] <Guest74210> bluntz  its not the desktop... its the taskbar
[23:48] <bluntz> yea
[23:48] <trifecta> whenever i run conky in the terminal
[23:48] <bluntz> uncheck lock
[23:48] <maboughey> peaces: have you tried using the linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic package?
[23:48] <trifecta> the cursor just goes to a blank line
[23:49] <trifecta> how can i fix this
[23:49] <trifecta> ?
[23:49] <nbeebo> shoutcast in bmpx isnt working anymore
[23:49] <Guest74210> oh boy...    thx
[23:49] <nbeebo> no stations listed
[23:49] <bluntz> np
[23:49] <peaces> maboughey: yeah i am using that.  But inorder to connect to wireless i have to restart my computer everytime, i can't just suspend or hibernate
[23:49] <Gnea> ngirard: got another drive to test with?
[23:49] <Hoxor> nobody's got an answer for me?
[23:49] <maboughey> peaces can i pm you?
[23:49] <peaces> maboughey: yeah
[23:50] <bluntz> hoxor?
[23:50] <BCM43> bluntz: I can find it
[23:50] <Alastair_> did you configure your hosts file ?
[23:50] <Guest74210> bluntz   they keep going back to where they are
[23:50] <bluntz> rite clik over taskbar
[23:50] <nbeebo> hoxor i guess its graphic cards drivers problem..
[23:50] <Alastair_> aw, sry ^^ this wasn't for here ^^
[23:50] <bluntz> and uncheck lock to
[23:50] <Hoxor> hmm.. thnx
[23:50] <Hoxor> any idea how i can fix it?
[23:50] <Guest74210> I did... then unclick lock widjets
[23:51] <Hoxor> re-install the drivers?
[23:51] <ThomasPettit> does anyone know how i can play video on my ubuntu?
[23:51] <cmdbbq> i cannot get rhythmbox to add a podcast, and when i run it in terminal and attempt to, nothing prints out please help!
[23:51] <Alastair_> add the medibuntu repository and download smplayer
[23:51] <shovi> Ive tried a bunch of stuff, but the network manager still pops up this KEYRING bs everytime i boot into ubuntu. How can i get rid of it and just let it auto connect to wifi??
[23:51] <nbeebo> thomaspettit totem or download vlc
[23:51] <trifecta> so, when I run conky through the terminal, it defaults the terminal cursor to a blank line. How can I get back to my user status?
[23:52] <DarkSotM> deftone7: under Advanced > Onboard Devices there is A SATA Mode select try a diffrent setting in there
[23:52] <briwoo1> ThomasPettit:  google vlc
[23:52] <Guest74210> bluntz    I move them    then they move back\
[23:52] <ThomasPettit> nbeebo ive tried both neither work
[23:52] <bluntz> ok rite clik on desktop and uncheck keep aligned
[23:52] <Deftone7> DarkSotM: okie dokie...brb...let me try it
[23:52] <Alastair_> ThomasPettit, try smplayer...
[23:52] <ngirard> Gnea: unfortunately no. Damn damn damn...
[23:52] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay looks like it's all installed just fine!
[23:52] <trifecta> ???
[23:52] <BCM43> when running startx on a Powerbook G4 I get the error "VGE(0): V_BIOS address 0x55580 out of range. Does anybody know how to fix it?
[23:52] <briwoo1> ThomasPettit: your question is very general.  DVD? Streaming in a browser?
[23:52] <Kidfork> How cna i edit a files permissions through terminal?
[23:53] <Unconfined> Kidfork, chmod and chown
[23:53] <edju> want to install gnome, but ubuntu-desktop brings in too much.  is a "thin" gnome available?
[23:53] <Unconfined> chown changes owner and group
[23:53] <ThomasPettit> they are videos on my hard drive. they are .avi file and cannot figure out how to convert them
[23:53] <Unconfined> chmod changes permissions like read, write, execute
[23:53] <asterix> onetinsoldier: is there a native linux 3D program I can use to benchmark or do some generic testing?
[23:53] <shovi> Ive tried a bunch of stuff, but the network manager still pops up this KEYRING bs everytime i boot into ubuntu. How can i get rid of it and just let it auto connect to wifi??
[23:53] <trifecta> Did anyone see my question?
[23:53] <bluntz> guest ok now?
[23:53] <Guest74210> bluntz  Nothing in there that says anything about align on desktop settings
[23:53] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok, great! also, i was a little incorrect about 'fakeroot'. it just to 'install' in a fake out root environment. if  you are compiling in your home directory, you don't need to be root user
[23:54] <bluntz> ok what version u runnin?
[23:54] <Kidfork> Unconfined: COuld you be a little more specific, im trying to edit the files permissions from Read only to Read and Write
[23:54] <Alastair_> trifecta, just don't start it from terminal
[23:54] <Alastair_> :p
[23:54] <trifecta> lol
[23:54] <Gnea> ngirard: wish i knew what else to suggest... sorry :}
[23:54] <Alastair_> use alt+f2
[23:54] <g0bl1n> anyone done a netbook UNR (ubuntu Netbook Remix) installation with unr-1.0.1.img ?
[23:54] <Unconfined> Kidfork, for the owner of the file?
[23:54] <onetinsoldier> asterix: but to install something is a different matter. for that you do need to be root
[23:54] <wiijii> How tolerant is Ubuntu of installing new WMs? It all seems pretty tightly integrated with Gnome. Does anyone use openbox, enlightenment etc?
[23:54] <trifecta> theres no way to get back to the normal prompt without restarting terminal?
[23:54] <Kidfork> Unconfined: correct
[23:54] <bluntz> I got hardy
[23:54] <onetinsoldier> asterix: glxgears
[23:54] <Alastair_> there is - but it'll stop your conky
[23:54] <briwoo1> ThomasPettit: vlc should do it. you may need win32 codecs
[23:55] <Unconfined> Kidfork, okay try chmod 640 or chmod 644
[23:55] <trifecta> arg
[23:55] <Guest74210> 8.10 intrepid
[23:55] <Unconfined> 644 means everyone can read and owner can read/write
[23:55] <trifecta> than can you show me a link to some good conky configs?
[23:55] <ThomasPettit> k thanks ill try
[23:55] <Hoxor> nbeebo.. what do you recommend?
[23:55] <trifecta> i dont like the ones on the home site
[23:55] <Unconfined> 640 means only owner and group can read and owner can read/write
[23:55] <ferfactor> how can i put a subtitle to a .avi with avidemux?
[23:56] <Alastair_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865
[23:56] <Unconfined> Kidfork, chmod 644 filename (just incase you're wondering where the filename fits in)
[23:56] <Guest74210> o k  thx'
[23:56] <trifecta> thats not a good question for this channel
[23:56] <der|kunstler> is there an easy VPN configuration for ubuntu, something like Hamachi ?
[23:56] <onetinsoldier> asterix: although, for some time now i believe, the flgrx drivers have some darn flickering in compiz if you have the "Composite" Extension enabled in your xorg.conf file.. which i do. i can tell you how to do that if you want
[23:56] <trifecta> uh
[23:56] <Kidfork> Unconfiled: thank you
[23:56] <Alastair_> there are tons of configurations and screenshots
[23:56] <Alastair_> ^^
[23:56] <nbeebo> haxor installing drivers for ur graphic cards i guess
[23:56] <mikegriffin> hello, i am going to put linux on a laptop for my sister and it has only 512M of RAM, is xubuntu really more lightweight than a standard ubuntu release?
[23:56] <Alastair_> i can give you mine too... it's simple and clean :p
[23:56] <trifecta> ok thatnks Alastair_
[23:56] <mikegriffin> is it as well integrated?
[23:56] <trifecta> thansk*
[23:57] <trifecta> thanks*
[23:57] <BCM43> when running startx on a Powerbook G4 I get the error "VGE(0): V_BIOS address 0x55580 out of range
[23:57] <nbeebo> mikegriffin yes
[23:57] <nbeebo> mikegriffin u could try it
[23:57] <ermoved> mikegriffin, yeah.  i'm using it on a 5412mb RAM system right now and it works faster than ubumtu w/gnome
[23:57] <trifecta> ooh i like simple and clean
[23:57] <ermoved> err, 512
[23:57] <asterix> onetinsoldier: I'm not seeing any composite extension in the xorg
[23:57] <trifecta> pm me
[23:57] <shovi> How can i get the Network Managers Keyring to become Automated, instead of it asking me EVERY TIME????
[23:58] <actafool> ok my screen flickering.. how can i fix it ?
[23:58] <bluntz> BCM43 did u get the screen specs?
[23:58] <actafool> ?
[23:58] <onetinsoldier> asterix:  you'll want to add that. and, i think they may have finally fixed the flickering issue! i just started glxgears and it looks great, no flickering!
[23:58] <mikegriffin> ermoved: is it well integrated like gnome is?
[23:58] <tyrant> actafool, you have to try the other output methods like opengl or x11
[23:58] <tyrant> actafool, what videoplayer are you using
[23:58] <actafool> videoplayer ?
[23:59] <BCM43> bluntz: I said I couldn't find them
[23:59] <wiijii> Anyone use a WM apart from Gnome/Xfce/KDE in Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Kubuntu?
[23:59] <asterix> onetinsoldier: what kind of flickering in compiz?  I've got it on highest settings and it seems pretty smooth
[23:59] <bluntz> then ur sol
[23:59] <ermoved> mikegriffin, is what well integrated?
[23:59] <BCM43> bluntz: ??
[23:59] <tyrant> actafool, i had the flickering only when playing videos
[23:59] <mikegriffin> ermoved: xfce i guess, does it have all of the gnome style configuration utilities (ease of use etc)