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shane__hello all,i have a prob,i installed the driver for my card with ndiswrapper,drivers there recognizes card prob is i dont have internet on that system only wireless,how do i get a wifi prog to detect my connection01:12
|ntegra|heya01:14
|ntegra|xubuntu is pretty cool01:18
cody-somerville:)01:18
|ntegra|I got wireless YaY01:19
SlugzzzzHey... I am having a hard drive problem.01:28
|ntegra|wow, me2, I can't fill it fast enough01:29
* charlie-tca does not like those fast question types01:32
shadow98hey guys i have xubuntu running on flash drive and work well...however when i boot back into the OS it saves all the apps I had open when i shutdown...how do i stop this from happening03:32
charlie-tcaWhen you shutdown, it should ask if you want to save the session. Close all your apps, shutdown or restart03:33
charlie-tcawith that checked. Next time you shutdown, make sure that is unchecked. It will then start without03:34
charlie-tcaany apps open even if shutdown with them open.03:34
Odd-rationalealso, might want to clear ~/.cache/sessions03:35
Odd-rationaleor was is ~/.xfce4/sessions ... i don't remember...03:35
shadow98yes03:40
shadow98i am sure that everytime i shutdown I have even closed the apps....03:40
shadow98its like it start building on them also...so now after using several different apps they all open at once...03:41
shadow98when i boot03:41
charlie-tcaYou can also look at Applications -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> Sessions and Startup and make sure automatically save session on logout is unchecked03:42
shadow98i tried that last time i was trying to find an answer03:44
shadow98it wasn't on...so i went back to the drawing board03:44
shadow98its puzzling actually....03:49
charlie-tcaWhat about Autostarted apps in Settings Manager?03:52
charlie-tcaor, perhaps the apps are open in a different desktop when you shutdown?03:56
Grant-Adoes xubuntu have mono in it by default?04:00
Odd-rationaleGrant-A: i don't think so... though i could be wrong...04:18
Grant-Aok, thanks for the info :)04:18
Odd-rationalethings such as tomboy, f-spot, and banshee are some famous mono apps.04:19
crazy2beoh my04:24
crazy2bethe alternitive install CD gets kernel panic04:24
Grant-AO_o04:25
crazy2beyeah04:25
crazy2bethat's what i thought04:25
crazy2bethe normal install CD won't work04:25
crazy2beand apparently, neither will the Alternitive04:26
crazy2be:\04:26
crazy2bewow04:37
crazy2bethe memtest shows about half my memory is correpted04:37
crazy2bei think that's what it's saying, anyway04:37
jessica02hey there, I'm a mother trying to install Xubuntu on my home PC.  I've been running 7.04 for quite some time and would like to move to 8.10.  I have burned an 8.10 Xubuntu install CD however when I boot from it and use the install option, it will show a blue progress bar for awhile and then go right to a blinking white cursor on a black screen-- that's all.  How can I move past this point?  I phoned my son and was told to try the no-05:11
crazy2becan't you just use the updater within xubuntu?05:14
jessica02It cuts out.. let me get the error msg05:18
jessica02(and it only gives an option to update to 7.10)05:19
jessica02Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found05:19
jessica02a large number of those...05:20
crazy2be:/05:20
crazy2bethat's bizzare05:20
crazy2bei assume you are on a working internet connection when you try to do this?05:20
jessica02Correct, (it's working as I type to you)05:21
crazy2belol05:21
jessica02:)05:21
crazy2beyeah, well that URL appears to be brocken05:21
crazy2beatleast05:21
crazy2be:/05:21
jessica02so how can I make this work?05:22
jessica02I can do a fresh install from a CD, that doesn't bother me05:22
jessica02all my stuff is backed up05:22
jessica02my technical know-how when it comes to these problems is limited though..05:22
jessica02like... black screen? umm, how can one know what to do05:23
crazy2belol05:23
crazy2bei tried to use a linux termanal once05:23
crazy2beand accidentally reformatted05:23
jessica02hha oh my05:23
crazy2be:P05:24
jessica02anyone else have any insight  why the 8.10 xubuntu CD leads me to a black screen?05:24
crazy2beyou might try #ubuntu05:24
crazy2bewait, you mean a terminal?05:25
crazy2becan you type on it?05:25
crazy2bewhat's it say?05:25
crazy2beusually that means an error05:26
jessica02it's just a blinking white cursor on a black screen05:27
crazy2bedoesn't say *anything*?05:27
jessica02if I try to go to any of the F-key windows (virtual terminals??) one of them says something about a 4G limit being reached05:27
jessica02but I only have 2GB of ram05:28
jessica02and my video card has like.. 4mb05:28
crazy2belol05:28
jessica02so not sure where that's coming from05:28
jessica02I just checked the forums and found this...05:28
jessica02http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=965237&highlight=8.10+install+black+screen05:28
jessica02so perhaps I'll give the 'alternate' disc a try05:28
crazy2beso, this is imediatelly after you select the first option?05:28
jessica02first option05:29
jessica02or second (don't try first, just install)\05:29
crazy2beok05:29
crazy2bedoes the memtest or check cd for defects options work?05:30
jessica02yes they do05:30
jessica02actually tried them both05:30
jessica02cd is fine05:30
jessica02memory fine too05:30
jessica02it sounds like the alternate CD is promising05:31
jessica02see page 3 of that thread05:31
jessica02everyone with ATI cards just uses the alternate cd05:31
jessica02then edits xorg for VESA > ati05:31
jessica02and shabam05:32
jessica02I'll give that a go05:32
jessica02thanks for your help :) take care05:32
crazy2belol05:32
crazy2bei was having trouble05:32
crazy2beand the alternite CD gives me kernel panic05:32
jessica02hmm, hope I get lucky05:32
jessica02bbl :)05:32
crazy2belol05:32
crazy2be'night06:02
sikuni cannot connect to a windows ad-hoc network.. the ubuntu machine attempts to connect then fails, on the windows machine it shows it is connected but says no signal.. what would be wrong?06:08
KillerOrcaI believe I have a major problem, I cloned ny install to a new harddisk, tried restoring grub, so it boots, but now it just sticks at a blue screen, any thoughts?07:27
Hangwirehi people, i have a problem.09:08
HangwireEverytime I log in my account using XFCE, XFCE does not manage my desktop - I have to go to Settings - Desktop Preferences to tick the "Allow XFCE to manage the desktop" or else my Icons and Wallpaper don't show up. Is there anyway to make it Autostart on bootup or something? Its really bothering me.09:08
ablomenHangwire, i think nautilus (or a different dm) is autostarted09:11
ablomentake a look in autostarted apps in the settings manager09:12
HangwireSo nautilus shouldnt start at startup?09:16
ablomennope it shouldnt09:17
ablomenyou want to use xfwm4, this should automaticly start at login (but nautilus head-buttet its way in because of the autostart thingy i suspect)09:18
Hangwireshould automatic support for gnome applications be enabled?09:18
Hangwireand nope, i dont see nautilus in Auto Started applications.09:18
ablomennot sure about that one, i did it, since i use gnome apps, makes sense enabling it if you do09:18
ablomenhmm09:19
Hangwireyeah its on.09:19
Hangwirebut as i said, nautilus not in autostart...09:19
ablomendo you get a desktop before checking the aloow xfce to manage desktop thing?09:19
Hangwirei get only AWN manager which i use, and the top panel.09:20
Hangwireno icons, no wallpaper.09:20
Hangwireno right click.09:20
ablomenah ok..09:20
Hangwireany other ideas? i already posted a topic on the forums.09:21
ablomenyeah im thinking (nvm the xfwm thing btw, got mixed-up in my head with dm's and wm's, its still early)09:21
ablomenxfdesktop, thats it09:22
ablomena quick and dirty trick would be putting xfdesktop in your auto-started apps list09:22
Hangwirejust the command? xfdesktop?09:23
ablomenyeah that should do the trick09:23
ablomenat least you wont have to do the manual task of checking the box anymore, but theres still something wrong for it not getting started automaticly09:23
Hangwirethats what i have been thinking too, but i guess its okay since i got it to start09:24
Hangwirethank you very much ablomen :)09:24
ablomenyw, you might still want to dig trough your ~/.config folder, but i guess if it works.. :)09:26
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GlowballHey12:07
GlowballI'm going to use Ubuntu on my next laptop (I'm going to buy it in summer) and to learn a little bit about it, I wanted to install Ubuntu on my old pc12:08
GlowballBut because it's not strong enough to run Ubuntu smootly, I was thinking about XUbuntu12:08
GlowballIs it similar enough to learn using normal Ubuntu?12:09
ridooit's a different window manager .. so, handling differs a bit12:10
GlowballBut it looks probably more like it than Windows XP... :P12:11
ablomenGlowball, its good to get the basics down, just note that in some things xfce is a bit less "user friendly" (for example, mounting windows shared drives)12:12
ridoosure it does :) -- you can see a big difference to ubuntu (nautilus) in xubuntus filemanager (thunar)12:13
ablomenbut if your not in a windows network, or arnt afraid of reading a short how-to, you should be fine (and you might want to stick to xfce afterwards :) )12:13
GlowballOh, right, one more thing12:14
ridoouph .. last statement is a little messed up (sorry for that)12:14
GlowballThat pc has already Windows 2000 installed (it can't handle XP, I told you it was old :P), so for Ubuntu, I wanted to use Wubi12:14
GlowballDoes something like that also exist for XUbuntu?12:14
ridoowhat's Wubi?12:15
ridooah .. I see :)12:15
* ridoo never used that stuff12:16
adamw9678I can't get compiz to work in xfce?12:27
GlowballSo, I guess the answer is no?12:31
ablomenGlowball, you can alsways install ubuntu and after that install the xubuntu-desktop package (which effectivly turns ubuntu into xubuntu12:32
GlowballOh, cool :)12:32
GlowballTy12:32
ablomenit think the bot might have a good link for that12:32
ablomen!xubuntu-desktop12:32
ubottuk/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.12:32
ablomenhmm12:32
Glowballhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/misc/xubuntu-desktop <-- ?12:34
ablomenyep thats a package12:34
GlowballHmm.. i386, right?12:35
ablomenbut i was searching for a link to a good how-to on fully "converting" ubuntu to xubuntu, anyway its as simple as typig "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop && remove --purge ubuntu-desktop" in a terminal12:35
ablomenGlowball, heh nah you dont have to download it12:35
GlowballSo just type in that in the terminal?12:36
GlowballOk12:36
* Glowball saves12:36
ablomenwoops sorry it should be `"sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop && apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-deskto12:37
ablomengod..12:37
ablomenok 3rd time the charm...12:37
ablomensudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-desktop12:37
* ablomen needs more coffee12:37
GlowballTy, Ablomen :)12:38
GlowballI gotta go now12:42
GlowballBye and thanks again ;)12:42
Sinistersometimes at boot time my usb hard drive dont mount can i put it in fstab or do i need to keep unpluging it ?12:46
ermovedxubuntu intrepid.. has stopped loading the volume control panel app.  tried running from terminal and not getting an error.. any ideas where to look?12:56
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loic-mHi13:08
loic-mCould someone with a default Intrepid Xubuntu install try and report if backported flash plugins work for them on i386 and/or amd64 using the packages at bug #23513513:09
loic-mSorry, the packages are on Bug #31006113:30
loic-mhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/intrepid-backports/+bug/31006113:30
devedsedoes someone know how to make xubuntu never safe its session?14:10
kebpress the reset button on the case14:11
devedse:o14:12
kebor, go to Applications, Settings Manager, Sessions and Startup and see what options aer available14:13
devedsek14:13
devedseu got any idea which one i should choose for "never save session"?14:14
kebwell i have 8.10 and i would just uncheck the "automatically save session"14:14
devedseits unchecked14:14
kebbut you could also try the one that prompts to choose session at login14:15
devedsebut still if you click right above you can tick that thing14:15
keband pick a default session each time rather than previous session14:15
devedsei want to disable that its tickable :)14:15
kebhmm14:15
kebthe settings for that are saved at ~/.config/xfce4-session/xfce4-session.rc14:17
devedse~ = home?14:17
devedsedammit i have to go14:18
devedsei stay afk so i can always read what u said14:19
kebyes14:41
robilehey, if i change the "print size" of an image in GIMP -> then print the picture -> its still the same size. what do i do wrong? :/14:53
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kebcheck printer settings, maybe it is set to fill page14:56
robilei got it, thanks keb15:18
keb:)15:58
cody-somerville:)15:59
devedse_:)15:59
fareshello I'm having trouble getting my webcam to work on intrepid17:47
faresthe device shows up in lsusb17:47
faresbut no correspnoding /dev/video* node17:47
faresand modules like gspca or quickcam aren't loaded17:47
Shaba1ok what do you do when the termainal window says "configure" is not a command18:05
Shaba1and you can see the 'configure' file right there in the directory18:05
TheSheep./configure18:08
Shaba1I tired that TheSheep18:10
Shaba1Well I think I did.18:10
Shaba1hold on let me reboot that machine in xubuntu18:11
grndslmi'm in love with xubuntu!!!18:46
knomegood to hear.18:46
grndslmhowever, i can't get the volume applet to install18:47
grndslmwhat's up with that18:47
knomegrndslm, try dragging and dropping it.18:47
knomegrndslm, it's a known bug for ages.18:47
grndslmBAM!  you da man knome18:48
knomenp. it's one of the most asked questions :)18:48
grndslmi've just been testing it out on my machine before i put it on my friends limited 512mb machine....18:49
grndslmand it seems like it's ready to replace gnome, IMO18:49
knomesure18:49
knomexubuntu 9.04 should be even more kickass18:49
knomewith xfce 4.618:50
grndslmyea, we're both still using 8.0418:50
knomeoh18:50
grndslmi've always liked xfce, but could never get it the way i wanted it for one reason or another...  i like to have the volume applet in one of the corners for easy volume control...  needs to have a system monitor on the panel(s)...18:51
grndslmi like how the gnome-system-monitor pops up when you click on their system monitor applet, but oh well18:51
knomegrndslm, use xfapplet18:52
knomegrndslm, you can run gnome panel applets with it in xfce panel18:52
grndslmwhoa!18:52
sonomaMIDI audio doesn't seem to play on my old Pentium3. Other sounds are fine. Virtual Keyboard is silent. Oddly, Rhythmbox plays two notes in the middle of one of my MIDI files.19:38
TheSheepsonoma: maybe you're missing the instrument definitions?19:39
TheSheep!midi19:39
ubottuTrouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo19:39
faresAny help with setting up logitech webcam on ubuntu intrepid? I saw the online howtos, but still can't resolve...19:40
TheSheepfares: what doesn't work exactly?19:42
faresI plugged in the camera19:42
faresI can see it in lsusb19:42
faresDevice 002: ID 046d:089d Logitech, Inc.19:42
faresbut there is no corresponding /dev/video*19:43
faresand no proper modules seem to have been loaded into the kernel (e.g. quickcam or gscpa)19:43
faresso I'm stumped19:43
TheSheepfares: did you try to load them manually?19:44
faresI tried modprobe quickcam and modprobe gscpa_main and gscpa_zc3xx19:44
faresthey showed up in dmesg as drivers registering successfully19:44
TheSheepfares: anything appeared in dmesg after that?19:44
faresi'll try them again and paste dmesg output19:45
TheSheepuse a pastebin19:45
faressorry I'm new to IRC, what is pastebin?19:45
fares[10766.116979] Linux video capture interface: v2.0019:46
TheSheep!pastebin19:46
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)19:46
faresok makes sense19:46
faresone moment19:46
sonomasheep: thanks, seems that playing a song in timidity once was enough to start what ever hadn't started. All the players I have are playing MIDI files just fine now.19:47
fareshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/91792/19:47
faresthose are the last few lines of dmesg after loading each of the gspca and quickcam drivers19:48
TheSheepfares: stil no /dev/video ?19:48
faresnope19:48
TheSheepfares: go to /sys/bus/usb/devices, find your camera there and see if it mentions which /dev/ file it uses...19:49
faresi'm not sure which one of those devices is the camera19:51
faresI pasted the output of ls -al19:51
fareshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/91795/19:51
TheSheepfares: check the numbers from lsusb19:52
faresbus 02 device 0219:53
faresID 046d:089d19:53
faresdoesn't seem to correspond to any of the files in the usb/devices directory19:54
TheSheepdo grep 'Camera' */product19:54
TheSheepor 'Logitech'19:54
faresno output19:55
TheSheepcat */product19:55
fareshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/91799/19:55
fareslooks like lsusb sees it but its not in that directory at all19:56
TheSheepare you sure lsusb show it?19:56
TheSheepweird19:56
TheSheepwhat make is your mouse?19:56
faresLogitech as well, but it shows in a separate row in lsusb19:56
faresand if I unplug the camera19:56
faresthe extra logitech row disappears19:57
faresI'll paste lsusb output with and without camera plugged in19:57
faresone moment19:57
fareshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/91800/19:58
TheSheepthis is confusing19:59
faresso lsusb this time shows:20:01
faresBus 002 Device 004: ID 046d:089d Logitech, Inc.20:02
TheSheepany new directory in that devices dir?20:02
faresbut when I go to /sys/bus/usb/devices/2-420:02
faresand I do cat product20:02
faresI see this:20:03
faresOptical USB Mouse20:03
faresyet there is another lsusb entry:20:03
faresBus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:c016 Logitech, Inc. M-UV69a/HP M-UV96 Optical Wheel Mouse20:03
faresand there is no product file in the 2-3 directory20:03
faresor in 2-3:1.{0,1,2} directories20:04
TheSheepI'm not sure these numbers mean bus and device numbers20:05
faresyou think somehow hal is confusing the camera for a logitech mouse?20:06
TheSheepno idea20:06
knomenothing stops you from trying to use the "mouse" as a camera though..20:07
fareswhen I unplug the camera20:08
faresls /dev/ | wc -l yields 69620:08
fareswhen its plugged ls /dev/ | wc -l yields 70220:09
faresgonna try to see the diff20:09
fareshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/91802/20:10
TheSheepaudio20:11
TheSheepthecamera has a mike?20:11
faresyeah20:11
knomethesheep has a cheese?20:11
* TheSheep bites knome's head off20:12
knomeagain?20:12
TheSheepknome: not my fault you grow them so fast20:12
knomehaha20:12
fareshehe20:12
faresare there any other IRC channels you think I should try?20:17
knomemaybe #ubuntu20:17
knomebecause it's not xubuntu specific20:17
faresok20:17
knomeor at least i hope it's not ;P20:17
TheSheepit can't be20:22
knomeyes.. except if there is something really strange going on ;)20:22
TheSheepeven then20:22
juhlshi20:36
j_bsdxinuso quiet here today21:56
cody-somerville:]21:57
j_bsdxinuin xubuntu right after loging in it asks for wallet password to connect to wireless is there a way to disable this21:58
ridoowallet is KDE, isn't it?22:01
j_bsdxinunot sure but my other laptop just connects to wireless and dont ask for any pass22:02
j_bsdxinuits just annoying plugging in your pass each time you login just to connect wireless22:03
ridoohave a look into the autostarted apps .. perhaps you could remove it from autostart22:03
j_bsdxinuxubuntu has kde wallet?22:05
ridoono .. but maybe you have installed it before22:05
ridooperhaps you had kde runnning?!22:06
j_bsdxinuno, clean install xubuntu 8.1022:06
j_bsdxinunot sure what i did differently the second laptop once wireless setup it does not ask for any password22:07
j_bsdxinuok,  i rebooted its a keyring not wallet22:07
j_bsdxinuNetManager want to access keyring  but its locked. enter password22:08
ridoowhat does `apropos kwalletmanager' say`22:08
cody-somervilleno no no22:09
cody-somervillewhat version of Xubuntu are you running j_bsdxinu22:09
j_bsdxinu8.1022:09
cody-somervilleIt should just work22:09
ridooshould .. :o)22:10
cody-somervilleDo you have libpam-gnome-keyring installed?22:10
j_bsdxinuwireless work well it just keeps asking for the keyring pass -- where as my other laptop does not22:11
j_bsdxinuyes, i do have libpam-gnome-keyring installed22:13
maobilein xubuntu my firefox draws the pictures on websites very pixely(this should mean that u see the pixels)22:53
maobileany ideas? :P22:54
knomemaobile, what happens if you press ctrl+0 ?23:08
maobileknome, better but still way more pixy than in windows23:16
knomemaobile, can you send a screenshot?23:17
maobileyep23:17
maobilehttp://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pixykk6.png23:19
knomeit looks you still haven't got the original size23:21
maobileit is23:21
knomemaobile, try view->zoom->reset again23:21
maobilebut in windows i also have bigger sizes23:21
maobilei can switch to whatever size i want in windows and it doesnt get pixy23:22
knomemaobile, view->zoom->zoom text only23:22
maobilejpegs and anything else is fine, its just in ff23:22
maobilek wait23:22
maobileknome, u were right, it still wasnt the right size. THANKS dude :D23:23
knomenp.23:23
AdolaHey! I need to check what kinda video card I have.23:40
knomeAdola, first check out the output of 'lspci' in terminal23:43
charlie-tcalspci -vvnn23:43
* charlie-tca nods23:43
knomewhy don't you have wget in windows :P23:45
Adola01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02)23:48
AdolaIs this what is required?23:48
knomethat is your video card.23:49
AdolaOk.23:49
AdolaWhat next?  (See, I'm stuck at 800x600  and that's as high as I can go...THat's unacceptable)  On Windows, I was able to go higher.23:49
AdolaSo,  I KNOW it's compatible.23:49
AdolaSo.  Where would I go from here?23:52
charlie-tcaAdola: There is a bug on that card and resolution: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-r128/+bug/28430923:52
charlie-tcaIt shows as incomplete, but it is inwork.23:54
AdolaSo, it seems as if nothing can be done yet.23:58

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