[00:24] ubbotu: samba [00:24] !samba [00:24] Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. Also see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/212098 [01:12] hello all,i have a prob,i installed the driver for my card with ndiswrapper,drivers there recognizes card prob is i dont have internet on that system only wireless,how do i get a wifi prog to detect my connection [01:14] <|ntegra|> heya [01:18] <|ntegra|> xubuntu is pretty cool [01:18] :) [01:19] <|ntegra|> I got wireless YaY [01:28] Hey... I am having a hard drive problem. [01:29] <|ntegra|> wow, me2, I can't fill it fast enough [01:32] * charlie-tca does not like those fast question types [03:32] hey guys i have xubuntu running on flash drive and work well...however when i boot back into the OS it saves all the apps I had open when i shutdown...how do i stop this from happening [03:33] When you shutdown, it should ask if you want to save the session. Close all your apps, shutdown or restart [03:34] with that checked. Next time you shutdown, make sure that is unchecked. It will then start without [03:34] any apps open even if shutdown with them open. [03:35] also, might want to clear ~/.cache/sessions [03:35] or was is ~/.xfce4/sessions ... i don't remember... [03:40] yes [03:40] i am sure that everytime i shutdown I have even closed the apps.... [03:41] its like it start building on them also...so now after using several different apps they all open at once... [03:41] when i boot [03:42] You can also look at Applications -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> Sessions and Startup and make sure automatically save session on logout is unchecked [03:44] i tried that last time i was trying to find an answer [03:44] it wasn't on...so i went back to the drawing board [03:49] its puzzling actually.... [03:52] What about Autostarted apps in Settings Manager? [03:56] or, perhaps the apps are open in a different desktop when you shutdown? [04:00] does xubuntu have mono in it by default? [04:18] Grant-A: i don't think so... though i could be wrong... [04:18] ok, thanks for the info :) [04:19] things such as tomboy, f-spot, and banshee are some famous mono apps. [04:24] oh my [04:24] the alternitive install CD gets kernel panic [04:25] O_o [04:25] yeah [04:25] that's what i thought [04:25] the normal install CD won't work [04:26] and apparently, neither will the Alternitive [04:26] :\ [04:37] wow [04:37] the memtest shows about half my memory is correpted [04:37] i think that's what it's saying, anyway [05:11] hey there, I'm a mother trying to install Xubuntu on my home PC. I've been running 7.04 for quite some time and would like to move to 8.10. I have burned an 8.10 Xubuntu install CD however when I boot from it and use the install option, it will show a blue progress bar for awhile and then go right to a blinking white cursor on a black screen-- that's all. How can I move past this point? I phoned my son and was told to try the no- [05:14] can't you just use the updater within xubuntu? [05:18] It cuts out.. let me get the error msg [05:19] (and it only gives an option to update to 7.10) [05:19] Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [05:20] a large number of those... [05:20] :/ [05:20] that's bizzare [05:20] i assume you are on a working internet connection when you try to do this? [05:21] Correct, (it's working as I type to you) [05:21] lol [05:21] :) [05:21] yeah, well that URL appears to be brocken [05:21] atleast [05:21] :/ [05:22] so how can I make this work? [05:22] I can do a fresh install from a CD, that doesn't bother me [05:22] all my stuff is backed up [05:22] my technical know-how when it comes to these problems is limited though.. [05:23] like... black screen? umm, how can one know what to do [05:23] lol [05:23] i tried to use a linux termanal once [05:23] and accidentally reformatted [05:23] hha oh my [05:24] :P [05:24] anyone else have any insight why the 8.10 xubuntu CD leads me to a black screen? [05:24] you might try #ubuntu [05:25] wait, you mean a terminal? [05:25] can you type on it? [05:25] what's it say? [05:26] usually that means an error [05:27] it's just a blinking white cursor on a black screen [05:27] doesn't say *anything*? [05:27] if I try to go to any of the F-key windows (virtual terminals??) one of them says something about a 4G limit being reached [05:28] but I only have 2GB of ram [05:28] and my video card has like.. 4mb [05:28] lol [05:28] so not sure where that's coming from [05:28] I just checked the forums and found this... [05:28] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=965237&highlight=8.10+install+black+screen [05:28] so perhaps I'll give the 'alternate' disc a try [05:28] so, this is imediatelly after you select the first option? [05:29] first option [05:29] or second (don't try first, just install)\ [05:29] ok [05:30] does the memtest or check cd for defects options work? [05:30] yes they do [05:30] actually tried them both [05:30] cd is fine [05:30] memory fine too [05:31] it sounds like the alternate CD is promising [05:31] see page 3 of that thread [05:31] everyone with ATI cards just uses the alternate cd [05:31] then edits xorg for VESA > ati [05:32] and shabam [05:32] I'll give that a go [05:32] thanks for your help :) take care [05:32] lol [05:32] i was having trouble [05:32] and the alternite CD gives me kernel panic [05:32] hmm, hope I get lucky [05:32] bbl :) [05:32] lol [06:02] 'night [06:08] i cannot connect to a windows ad-hoc network.. the ubuntu machine attempts to connect then fails, on the windows machine it shows it is connected but says no signal.. what would be wrong? [07:27] I believe I have a major problem, I cloned ny install to a new harddisk, tried restoring grub, so it boots, but now it just sticks at a blue screen, any thoughts? [09:08] hi people, i have a problem. [09:08] Everytime I log in my account using XFCE, XFCE does not manage my desktop - I have to go to Settings - Desktop Preferences to tick the "Allow XFCE to manage the desktop" or else my Icons and Wallpaper don't show up. Is there anyway to make it Autostart on bootup or something? Its really bothering me. [09:11] Hangwire, i think nautilus (or a different dm) is autostarted [09:12] take a look in autostarted apps in the settings manager [09:16] So nautilus shouldnt start at startup? [09:17] nope it shouldnt [09:18] you want to use xfwm4, this should automaticly start at login (but nautilus head-buttet its way in because of the autostart thingy i suspect) [09:18] should automatic support for gnome applications be enabled? [09:18] and nope, i dont see nautilus in Auto Started applications. [09:18] not sure about that one, i did it, since i use gnome apps, makes sense enabling it if you do [09:19] hmm [09:19] yeah its on. [09:19] but as i said, nautilus not in autostart... [09:19] do you get a desktop before checking the aloow xfce to manage desktop thing? [09:20] i get only AWN manager which i use, and the top panel. [09:20] no icons, no wallpaper. [09:20] no right click. [09:20] ah ok.. [09:21] any other ideas? i already posted a topic on the forums. [09:21] yeah im thinking (nvm the xfwm thing btw, got mixed-up in my head with dm's and wm's, its still early) [09:22] xfdesktop, thats it [09:22] a quick and dirty trick would be putting xfdesktop in your auto-started apps list [09:23] just the command? xfdesktop? [09:23] yeah that should do the trick [09:23] at least you wont have to do the manual task of checking the box anymore, but theres still something wrong for it not getting started automaticly [09:24] thats what i have been thinking too, but i guess its okay since i got it to start [09:24] thank you very much ablomen :) [09:26] yw, you might still want to dig trough your ~/.config folder, but i guess if it works.. :) === Sinister` is now known as Sinister [12:07] Hey [12:08] I'm going to use Ubuntu on my next laptop (I'm going to buy it in summer) and to learn a little bit about it, I wanted to install Ubuntu on my old pc [12:08] But because it's not strong enough to run Ubuntu smootly, I was thinking about XUbuntu [12:09] Is it similar enough to learn using normal Ubuntu? [12:10] it's a different window manager .. so, handling differs a bit [12:11] But it looks probably more like it than Windows XP... :P [12:12] Glowball, its good to get the basics down, just note that in some things xfce is a bit less "user friendly" (for example, mounting windows shared drives) [12:13] sure it does :) -- you can see a big difference to ubuntu (nautilus) in xubuntus filemanager (thunar) [12:13] but if your not in a windows network, or arnt afraid of reading a short how-to, you should be fine (and you might want to stick to xfce afterwards :) ) [12:14] Oh, right, one more thing [12:14] uph .. last statement is a little messed up (sorry for that) [12:14] That pc has already Windows 2000 installed (it can't handle XP, I told you it was old :P), so for Ubuntu, I wanted to use Wubi [12:14] Does something like that also exist for XUbuntu? [12:15] what's Wubi? [12:15] ah .. I see :) [12:16] * ridoo never used that stuff [12:27] I can't get compiz to work in xfce? [12:31] So, I guess the answer is no? [12:32] Glowball, you can alsways install ubuntu and after that install the xubuntu-desktop package (which effectivly turns ubuntu into xubuntu [12:32] Oh, cool :) [12:32] Ty [12:32] it think the bot might have a good link for that [12:32] !xubuntu-desktop [12:32] k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading. [12:32] hmm [12:34] http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/misc/xubuntu-desktop <-- ? [12:34] yep thats a package [12:35] Hmm.. i386, right? [12:35] but i was searching for a link to a good how-to on fully "converting" ubuntu to xubuntu, anyway its as simple as typig "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop && remove --purge ubuntu-desktop" in a terminal [12:35] Glowball, heh nah you dont have to download it [12:36] So just type in that in the terminal? [12:36] Ok [12:36] * Glowball saves [12:37] woops sorry it should be `"sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop && apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-deskto [12:37] god.. [12:37] ok 3rd time the charm... [12:37] sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-desktop [12:37] * ablomen needs more coffee [12:38] Ty, Ablomen :) [12:42] I gotta go now [12:42] Bye and thanks again ;) [12:46] sometimes at boot time my usb hard drive dont mount can i put it in fstab or do i need to keep unpluging it ? [12:56] xubuntu intrepid.. has stopped loading the volume control panel app. tried running from terminal and not getting an error.. any ideas where to look? === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla [13:08] Hi [13:09] Could someone with a default Intrepid Xubuntu install try and report if backported flash plugins work for them on i386 and/or amd64 using the packages at bug #235135 [13:30] Sorry, the packages are on Bug #310061 [13:30] https://bugs.launchpad.net/intrepid-backports/+bug/310061 [14:10] does someone know how to make xubuntu never safe its session? [14:11] press the reset button on the case [14:12] :o [14:13] or, go to Applications, Settings Manager, Sessions and Startup and see what options aer available [14:13] k [14:14] u got any idea which one i should choose for "never save session"? [14:14] well i have 8.10 and i would just uncheck the "automatically save session" [14:14] its unchecked [14:15] but you could also try the one that prompts to choose session at login [14:15] but still if you click right above you can tick that thing [14:15] and pick a default session each time rather than previous session [14:15] i want to disable that its tickable :) [14:15] hmm [14:17] the settings for that are saved at ~/.config/xfce4-session/xfce4-session.rc [14:17] ~ = home? [14:18] dammit i have to go [14:19] i stay afk so i can always read what u said [14:41] yes [14:53] hey, if i change the "print size" of an image in GIMP -> then print the picture -> its still the same size. what do i do wrong? :/ === my_key_ is now known as my_key [14:56] check printer settings, maybe it is set to fill page [15:18] i got it, thanks keb [15:58] :) [15:59] :) [15:59] :) [17:47] hello I'm having trouble getting my webcam to work on intrepid [17:47] the device shows up in lsusb [17:47] but no correspnoding /dev/video* node [17:47] and modules like gspca or quickcam aren't loaded [18:05] ok what do you do when the termainal window says "configure" is not a command [18:05] and you can see the 'configure' file right there in the directory [18:08] ./configure [18:10] I tired that TheSheep [18:10] Well I think I did. [18:11] hold on let me reboot that machine in xubuntu [18:46] i'm in love with xubuntu!!! [18:46] good to hear. [18:47] however, i can't get the volume applet to install [18:47] what's up with that [18:47] grndslm, try dragging and dropping it. [18:47] grndslm, it's a known bug for ages. [18:48] BAM! you da man knome [18:48] np. it's one of the most asked questions :) [18:49] i've just been testing it out on my machine before i put it on my friends limited 512mb machine.... [18:49] and it seems like it's ready to replace gnome, IMO [18:49] sure [18:49] xubuntu 9.04 should be even more kickass [18:50] with xfce 4.6 [18:50] yea, we're both still using 8.04 [18:50] oh [18:51] i've always liked xfce, but could never get it the way i wanted it for one reason or another... i like to have the volume applet in one of the corners for easy volume control... needs to have a system monitor on the panel(s)... [18:51] i like how the gnome-system-monitor pops up when you click on their system monitor applet, but oh well [18:52] grndslm, use xfapplet [18:52] grndslm, you can run gnome panel applets with it in xfce panel [18:52] whoa! [19:38] MIDI audio doesn't seem to play on my old Pentium3. Other sounds are fine. Virtual Keyboard is silent. Oddly, Rhythmbox plays two notes in the middle of one of my MIDI files. [19:39] sonoma: maybe you're missing the instrument definitions? [19:39] !midi [19:39] Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo [19:40] Any help with setting up logitech webcam on ubuntu intrepid? I saw the online howtos, but still can't resolve... [19:42] fares: what doesn't work exactly? [19:42] I plugged in the camera [19:42] I can see it in lsusb [19:42] Device 002: ID 046d:089d Logitech, Inc. [19:43] but there is no corresponding /dev/video* [19:43] and no proper modules seem to have been loaded into the kernel (e.g. quickcam or gscpa) [19:43] so I'm stumped [19:44] fares: did you try to load them manually? [19:44] I tried modprobe quickcam and modprobe gscpa_main and gscpa_zc3xx [19:44] they showed up in dmesg as drivers registering successfully [19:44] fares: anything appeared in dmesg after that? [19:45] i'll try them again and paste dmesg output [19:45] use a pastebin [19:45] sorry I'm new to IRC, what is pastebin? [19:46] [10766.116979] Linux video capture interface: v2.00 [19:46] !pastebin [19:46] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [19:46] ok makes sense [19:46] one moment [19:47] sheep: thanks, seems that playing a song in timidity once was enough to start what ever hadn't started. All the players I have are playing MIDI files just fine now. [19:47] http://paste.ubuntu.com/91792/ [19:48] those are the last few lines of dmesg after loading each of the gspca and quickcam drivers [19:48] fares: stil no /dev/video ? [19:48] nope [19:49] fares: go to /sys/bus/usb/devices, find your camera there and see if it mentions which /dev/ file it uses... [19:51] i'm not sure which one of those devices is the camera [19:51] I pasted the output of ls -al [19:51] http://paste.ubuntu.com/91795/ [19:52] fares: check the numbers from lsusb [19:53] bus 02 device 02 [19:53] ID 046d:089d [19:54] doesn't seem to correspond to any of the files in the usb/devices directory [19:54] do grep 'Camera' */product [19:54] or 'Logitech' [19:55] no output [19:55] cat */product [19:55] http://paste.ubuntu.com/91799/ [19:56] looks like lsusb sees it but its not in that directory at all [19:56] are you sure lsusb show it? [19:56] weird [19:56] what make is your mouse? [19:56] Logitech as well, but it shows in a separate row in lsusb [19:56] and if I unplug the camera [19:57] the extra logitech row disappears [19:57] I'll paste lsusb output with and without camera plugged in [19:57] one moment [19:58] http://paste.ubuntu.com/91800/ [19:59] this is confusing [20:01] so lsusb this time shows: [20:02] Bus 002 Device 004: ID 046d:089d Logitech, Inc. [20:02] any new directory in that devices dir? [20:02] but when I go to /sys/bus/usb/devices/2-4 [20:02] and I do cat product [20:03] I see this: [20:03] Optical USB Mouse [20:03] yet there is another lsusb entry: [20:03] Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:c016 Logitech, Inc. M-UV69a/HP M-UV96 Optical Wheel Mouse [20:03] and there is no product file in the 2-3 directory [20:04] or in 2-3:1.{0,1,2} directories [20:05] I'm not sure these numbers mean bus and device numbers [20:06] you think somehow hal is confusing the camera for a logitech mouse? [20:06] no idea [20:07] nothing stops you from trying to use the "mouse" as a camera though.. [20:08] when I unplug the camera [20:08] ls /dev/ | wc -l yields 696 [20:09] when its plugged ls /dev/ | wc -l yields 702 [20:09] gonna try to see the diff [20:10] http://paste.ubuntu.com/91802/ [20:11] audio [20:11] thecamera has a mike? [20:11] yeah [20:11] thesheep has a cheese? [20:12] * TheSheep bites knome's head off [20:12] again? [20:12] knome: not my fault you grow them so fast [20:12] haha [20:12] hehe [20:17] are there any other IRC channels you think I should try? [20:17] maybe #ubuntu [20:17] because it's not xubuntu specific [20:17] ok [20:17] or at least i hope it's not ;P [20:22] it can't be [20:22] yes.. except if there is something really strange going on ;) [20:22] even then [20:36] hi [21:56] so quiet here today [21:57] :] [21:58] in xubuntu right after loging in it asks for wallet password to connect to wireless is there a way to disable this [22:01] wallet is KDE, isn't it? [22:02] not sure but my other laptop just connects to wireless and dont ask for any pass [22:03] its just annoying plugging in your pass each time you login just to connect wireless [22:03] have a look into the autostarted apps .. perhaps you could remove it from autostart [22:05] xubuntu has kde wallet? [22:05] no .. but maybe you have installed it before [22:06] perhaps you had kde runnning?! [22:06] no, clean install xubuntu 8.10 [22:07] not sure what i did differently the second laptop once wireless setup it does not ask for any password [22:07] ok, i rebooted its a keyring not wallet [22:08] NetManager want to access keyring but its locked. enter password [22:08] what does `apropos kwalletmanager' say` [22:09] no no no [22:09] what version of Xubuntu are you running j_bsdxinu [22:09] 8.10 [22:09] It should just work [22:10] should .. :o) [22:10] Do you have libpam-gnome-keyring installed? [22:11] wireless work well it just keeps asking for the keyring pass -- where as my other laptop does not [22:13] yes, i do have libpam-gnome-keyring installed [22:53] in xubuntu my firefox draws the pictures on websites very pixely(this should mean that u see the pixels) [22:54] any ideas? :P [23:08] maobile, what happens if you press ctrl+0 ? [23:16] knome, better but still way more pixy than in windows [23:17] maobile, can you send a screenshot? [23:17] yep [23:19] http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pixykk6.png [23:21] it looks you still haven't got the original size [23:21] it is [23:21] maobile, try view->zoom->reset again [23:21] but in windows i also have bigger sizes [23:22] i can switch to whatever size i want in windows and it doesnt get pixy [23:22] maobile, view->zoom->zoom text only [23:22] jpegs and anything else is fine, its just in ff [23:22] k wait [23:23] knome, u were right, it still wasnt the right size. THANKS dude :D [23:23] np. [23:40] Hey! I need to check what kinda video card I have. [23:43] Adola, first check out the output of 'lspci' in terminal [23:43] lspci -vvnn [23:43] * charlie-tca nods [23:45] why don't you have wget in windows :P [23:48] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02) [23:48] Is this what is required? [23:49] that is your video card. [23:49] Ok. [23:49] What next? (See, I'm stuck at 800x600 and that's as high as I can go...THat's unacceptable) On Windows, I was able to go higher. [23:49] So, I KNOW it's compatible. [23:52] So. Where would I go from here? [23:52] Adola: There is a bug on that card and resolution: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-r128/+bug/284309 [23:54] It shows as incomplete, but it is inwork. [23:58] So, it seems as if nothing can be done yet.