[00:00] <cwiedel> the rest do, it is not my keyboard.
[00:00] <cwiedel> somehow it got mapped wrong. Any ideas?
[00:01] <Salze> cwiedel: try changing the keyboard layout in system settings -> region/language
[00:02] <Salze> cwiedel: I have the same problem sometimes when remotely accessing my computer. Changing it to something wrong and then back again to evdev helps
[00:03] <cwiedel> Salze: I will try that
[00:05] <cwiedel> Salze: I HAVE MY DOWN ARROW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you so much. Sorry for yelling too.
[00:07] <SQlvpapir> http://www.fianceexposed.com/index.php?c=viral&m=index&id=4b9baa900fba41b4151ac0f19d0cf590
[00:09] <inanimate> I'm just going to say: kdegames for KDE 4 are all of a sudden the sweetest thing ever.
[00:10] <inanimate> It's amazing how much they did between 3 and 4.
[00:10] <inanimate> Or, more importantly, how much a couple nice looking SVGs will really shine up a tiny arcade game.
[00:13] <JontheEchidna> I agree with you there
[00:14] <inanimate> KGoldRunner went from being as questionable as Noatun (anybody remember Noatun?) to actually playable.
[00:19] <inanimate> What purpose does backing up on local save in Kate serve?
[00:19] <wesley> inanimate they are cool indeed
[00:20] <inanimate> (It's on by default, so somebody must think it's important.)
[00:20] <m4v> there's never enough backups
[00:20] <inanimate> Heh... I guess...
[00:21] <sep1318> its true, most people are just too complacent and lucky to care, because they haven't had to need them.
[00:22] <inanimate> I just find it odd that it's "backup on save" and not "backup every time *other than* save," because something not getting saved is when you *really* need a backup.
[00:23] <sep1318> hmm. well i guess then we'd need to find out what they think the difference is between backup and save?
[00:24] <inanimate> Not sure... The backup (the filename with ~ appended) looks to be a verbatim copy of the original.
[00:25] <sep1318> my amarok2 just stopped playing anything, and the last update made the collection/playlist/other windowlets in the middle all disappear, so there's not much that i have access to.
[00:25] <sep1318> oh, right, the ~ file. last time I checked, that was your last save. so not quite verbatim.
[00:26] <sep1318> so you save new stuff, and what you have currently saved goes into the backup.
[00:26] <sep1318> like one-step-only version control.
[00:26] <inanimate> Oh, so you're saying the ~ would be one save behind?
[00:26] <sep1318> yeah, at least that's how i'm used to thinking about it.
[00:26] <inanimate> All right, I'll give it a test.
[00:28] <inanimate> You are correct.
[00:28] <inanimate> OK, that makes a lot more sense then.
[00:29] <sep1318> glad i could help.
[00:29] <inanimate> Now all we need is some Kate autosave...
[00:30] <thomas_newbie__> when configuring kde panel, how can I make the taskbar middle button action to "nothing"
[00:31] <inanimate> thomas_newbie__: Taskbar middle button?
[00:32] <inanimate> Id est, you click on a task with the middle button?
[00:32] <sep1318> yeah, i think that's what he means/
[00:32] <sep1318> .*
[00:32] <thomas_newbie__> inanimate: when you go to configure kde panel
[00:32] <inanimate> ...there aren't too many options.
[00:33] <inanimate> KDE 3 or 4?
[00:33] <thomas_newbie__> under the taskbar options, there is actions for left click, middle button and right click. My problem is that when I scrolll sometimes it accidentally switches my programs
[00:34] <inanimate> Is this KDE 3? (It sounds like it.)
[00:34] <thomas_newbie__> how can I find out?
[00:34] <inanimate> Any program > Help > About KDE
[00:34] <sep1318> any KDE program
[00:34] <inanimate> Heh, yes.
[00:34] <sep1318> (i.e. firefox wouldn't have it.)
[00:35] <thomas_newbie__> 3.56
[00:35] <inanimate> I assumed no one let those vile non-KDE programs touch their desktop =).
[00:35] <inanimate> Hmm...
[00:35] <sep1318> sorry to disappoint, but I use firefox, thunderbird, pidgin, vlc...
[00:36] <inanimate> The Gods would be disappointed in you...
[00:36]  * sep1318 is shamed
[00:36] <inanimate> You should check KMail on KDE 4 though, it's pretty sweet.
[00:36] <sep1318> hey, at least vlc started using qt
[00:37] <inanimate> Definitely a step in the right direction.
[00:37] <sep1318> yupp
[00:37] <inanimate> Maybe one day Firefox will use Qt.
[00:37] <inanimate> (Not a chance in hell.)
[00:37] <sep1318> no, i heard they were developing a version
[00:37] <inanimate> Really?
[00:37] <sep1318> yeah
[00:37] <inanimate> That's awesome.
[00:37] <sep1318> exactly
[00:37] <inanimate> thomas_newbie__: Sorry, but you'll have to wait until a KDE 3 user comes on.
[00:38] <sep1318> yeah, sorry tom, i haven't used kde3 since 4 was final, so i don't remember where to send you to look, and can't really look around myself to point you in the right direction
[00:38] <thomas_newbie__> inanimate: np thanks
[00:39] <inanimate> Stick around, I'm sure you're bound to find one.
[00:39] <inanimate> Although there's also #kde on freenode.
[00:39] <inanimate> (May have better luck there, since Kubuntu 8.10 is 100% KDE 4.)
[00:39] <inanimate> And by 100%, I mean like 85% or so...
[00:39] <sep1318> hehe.
[00:39] <m4v> thomas_newbie__: its just right click in the panel, configure, and with one of the options of the left should find how to set it
[00:41] <thomas_newbie__> man my comp is producing some kind of burning smell
[00:41] <thomas_newbie__> its very annoying
[00:41] <thomas_newbie__> what could it be
[00:41] <inanimate> Probably have a Gnome app on there somewhere...
[00:43] <m4v> some dirt in the coolers?
[00:43] <sep1318> o.O if its actually burning, I think you need to back away and turn it off.....
[00:43] <m4v> maybe some fan got stuck and its burning its coil
[00:44] <inanimate> sep1318: L
[00:44] <inanimate> ooks like that Qt port is kind of dormant.
[00:44] <BOO> hi
[00:44] <thomas_newbie__> sep1318: actually this smell has been around for a while, but now I just figured out that it's definitely because of the computer
[00:45] <thomas_newbie__> m4v: what do you mean a fan is burning its coil? it doesn't sound stuck
[00:45] <Boo> HELLO
[00:45] <sep1318> yo
[00:45] <m4v> thomas_newbie__: when a fan gets stuck for whatever reason it overheats, but then it isn't your case if they aren't
[00:47] <m4v> when was the last time you cleaned your computer? maybe is just some dirt in the coolers
[00:48] <thomas_newbie__> m4v: coolers meaning the fan?
[00:49] <m4v> well, the whole thing, fan and heatsink
[00:51] <thomas_newbie__> m4v: yea this really smells, its making me sick, maybe 'll shutdown and clean out the dirt
[00:51] <thomas_newbie__> i'm trying to install ktemperature but it says there was an error commiting changes.
[00:52] <m4v> the source could be the power supply too (that metal box where you plug the power)
[00:52] <thomas_newbie__> i hope not
[00:52] <thomas_newbie__> hope its just some dirt
[00:52] <thomas_newbie__> the smell started coming after the computer was booted for like 30 minutes
[00:54] <m4v> i don't understand, you mean it was rebooted constantly for 30 min?
[00:54] <thomas_newbie__> no no
[00:54] <thomas_newbie__> after I started it
[00:54] <thomas_newbie__> it ran for 30 minutes
[00:54] <thomas_newbie__> then the smell came
[00:54] <m4v> aah
[00:55] <emanuel> Hi there. How can I remove text from a tool bar? I'd like to have just the icons.
[00:55] <szrhawaii> when i put ifconfig my wireless and ethernet shows up but when i put in iwconfig it doesnt show up and now my laptop is not connecting to the ethernet
[00:55] <mortici> how can i rename a device lable, i have a secondary hdd thats labled as New Volume but i want to name it something else
[00:56] <szrhawaii> my network manager doesnt even scan on a normal basis for networks either what do i need to make that work
[00:57] <m4v> thomas_newbie__: check all the power plugs too, maybe there's one with a bad connection and it's melting
[00:58] <m4v> the plastic I mean
[00:58] <thomas_newbie__> m4v: hmm yea maybe, can it be cpu
[00:58] <thomas_newbie__> it does smell like plastic possibly
[00:59] <thomas_newbie__> geese this is unbearable thanks m4v i'm shutting down
[00:59] <m4v> thomas_newbie__: when the plugs have false contacts they might spark and burn
[00:59] <thomas_newbie__> hmm
[01:00] <thomas_newbie__> i'll open the case first
[01:04] <wesley> who has a mini itx system ?
[01:06] <wesley> i am kind of having a dillema, i wanna build a cheap mini itx system, and even build myself a own case, but those pico things are very expensive, could i better use a normal psu
[01:11] <Boo> BOOO
[01:11] <Boo> BOOO
[01:11] <Boo> BOOO
[01:11] <Boo> BOOO
[01:11] <Boo> BOOO
[01:11] <Boo> BOO
[01:11] <Boo> BITCH
[01:11] <Boo> DICKHEAD
[01:11] <Boo> TITWANK
[01:22] <faemir> anyone here using amarok 2 and wouldn't mind seeing if their repeat function is broken?
[01:22] <faemir> it works on another pc, but not on kubuntu =/
[01:22] <faemir> another distro *
[01:26] <faemir> ah, it appears to only happen in a dynamic playlist
[01:28] <robin0800_> Kubuntu Jaunty Alpha 2 Available
[01:28] <szrhawaii> looking for help on configuring my network manager my ethernet is not sending a ping or something anywasy and also when i do a iwconfig it says no extensions but when i do a ifconfig it has all the info what can i do to make it work properly since this is twice already my ethernet has blocked out the ethernet connection from the computer
[01:29] <szrhawaii> the ethernet server works fine
[01:33] <Ganjatree> hello
[01:33] <Ganjatree> i was wondering if someone is using fish or mircryption with konversation?
[01:33] <robin0800_> Kubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) Alpha 2
[01:34] <elliottm> I'm running 64-bit kubuntu, and I have 4gb of ram installed, but linux is only seeing 3.2gb of it. I ran memtest86 on moth modules individually, and there were no errors. I know my motherboard support it, so what's the problem?
[01:36] <inanimate> WTF is a Jakalope?
[01:36] <inanimate> *Jackalope.
[01:50] <trappist> excellent
[01:50] <trappist> oops wrong channel
[02:08] <NetSkier> I am trying to upgrade to Intrepid from 8.04, this time using the approved method, but am having problems.   I tried the procedure from http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/10/22/network-upgrade-for-kubuntu-desktops-804-lts-810/, butid not see "Version Upgrade", and so selected "full Upgrade", but it did not seem to do much, and now it is complaining about my lack of committment (adept must be a woman, ;)  when I try to quit out of adept.
[02:08] <NetSkier> Any ideas?
[02:12] <OxDeadC0de> elliottm shared memory with the vid card?
[02:12] <matt_dev> hi guys
[02:12] <matt_dev> how you all doing
[02:12] <matt_dev> i was wondering how to install java
[02:12] <matt_dev> preferably through the terminal
[02:12] <OxDeadC0de> matt_dev aptitude search java , sudo apt-get install pkg-name
[02:12] <elliottm> OxDeadC0de: i sure as hell hope not, 800gb is missing
[02:13] <OxDeadC0de> mb?
[02:13] <elliottm> oh, yes
[02:13] <OxDeadC0de> A computer with 800gb of ram would be killer
[02:13] <OxDeadC0de> even if it's missing :P
[02:15] <OxDeadC0de> elliottm and you're absolutely positive it's x86_64 and not i386, i586, i686, etc
[02:15] <elliottm> well if it's missing 800gb, imagine how much it has available
[02:15] <elliottm> yep
[02:15] <elliottm> Linux elliott-desktop 2.6.24-22-generic #1 SMP Mon Nov 24 19:35:06 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:15] <OxDeadC0de> ouch? :P
[02:17] <NetSkier> What is the recommended way to upgrade from 8.4 to 8.1 when adept does not work?  The old 'apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[02:17] <matt_dev> OxDeadC0de: do i install the runtime environment? sun-java6-jre?
[02:17] <OxDeadC0de> matt_dev sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[02:17] <NetSkier> jono_, will you be at SCALE, upcoming one
[02:17] <matt_dev> ya ya, i was just wondering if what i need to run java-based applications is the java runtime environment
[02:18] <matt_dev> am i right
[02:18] <NetSkier> Assuming you are the same jono who keynoted last time.
[02:18] <OxDeadC0de> matt_dev i'd assume so, there are plenty of webpages on google that describe all this tho
[02:20] <jono_> NetSkier, yep
[02:20] <NetSkier> cool.
[02:20] <NetSkier> I hope I am quick enough to catch it this time.
[02:21] <NetSkier> Jono, what should I try after adept fails to upgrade 8.04 to 8.1?  apt-get dist-upgrade?
[02:22] <szrhawaii> anyone know how to troubleshoot the ethernet driver going down
[02:22] <szrhawaii> in networ manager
[02:23] <szrhawaii> my ethernet server is working but the os is not picking up the signal
[02:23] <szrhawaii> in iwconfig
[02:23] <szrhawaii> but is in ifconfig
[02:23] <szrhawaii> its wierd
[02:23] <szrhawaii> plus its not connecting
[02:24] <elliottm> so this is a wireless problem, not necessarily ethernet
[02:29] <szrhawaii> no i have wireless
[02:29] <szrhawaii> the ethernet doesnt show
[02:30] <szrhawaii> the wmaster eth0 and lo say no extension
[02:30] <szrhawaii> only the wlan0 says something in it and im on it right now in fact
[02:32] <matt_dev> hey guys, how do i install that graphical interface on grub?
[02:33] <Taladan> hey, I'm trying to configure system proxy settings on a remote system (kubuntu gutsy) and I'm trying to figure out how to do it from the command line
[02:33] <matt_dev> i tried installing grub 2 last time and i completely messed up my bootloading, i couldnt even boot anymore
[02:33] <matt_dev> had to reformat everything
[02:34] <szrhawaii> you can do it through the grub editor if you have 8.10
[02:35] <matt_dev> what's grub editor?
[02:36] <szrhawaii> are you on 8.10
[02:40] <DasKreech> matt_dev: huh?
[02:41] <szrhawaii> Daskreech need some help with my network manager
[02:41] <szrhawaii> for some reason my computer is not recognizing the eth0
[02:41] <DasKreech> szrhawaii: This may be the place to ask!!
[02:41] <DasKreech> szrhawaii: pastbin your /etc/network/interfaces file
[02:42] <szrhawaii> it says no extensions when i plug in iwconfig
[02:42] <szrhawaii> but i will look that up
[02:42] <szrhawaii> give me a minute
[02:43] <szrhawaii> is the url ubuntu.pastebin.com
[02:44] <szrhawaii> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m554ddb heres what i got Daskreech
[02:44] <matt_dev> DasKreech: how do i get those graphical interfaces in my grub?
[02:45] <DasKreech> matt_dev: What graphical interfaces?
[02:45] <DasKreech> Do you have an example?
[02:45] <matt_dev> hmmm
[02:45] <matt_dev> i will get you a link
[02:45] <matt_dev> give me a minute
[02:46] <DasKreech> szrhawaii: that would be why :) you removed it from the computer
[02:46] <szrhawaii> how do i get it back
[02:46] <szrhawaii> when i do iconfig its there
[02:46] <szrhawaii> well i can see the info
[02:47] <szrhawaii> so what do i do to get my stuff back on there
[02:48] <DasKreech> szrhawaii: What what?
[02:48] <matt_dev> DasKreech: http://grub.gibibit.com/index
[02:48] <DasKreech> szrhawaii: What's the output of ifconfig ?
[02:48] <szrhawaii> do you want me to pastebin that
[02:49] <DasKreech> matt_dev: You would have to compile that. It's not packaged as yet
[02:49] <DasKreech> szrhawaii: yes
[02:49] <szrhawaii> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1ab73035
[02:49] <szrhawaii> there it is
[02:50] <szrhawaii> this is what iwconfig says
[02:50] <szrhawaii> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m47516c5f
[02:51] <OxDeadC0de> matt_dev ... thank you, that's hot,  i'm installing that:P
[02:53] <matt_dev> OxDeadC0de: no problem, could you help me setting that up too?
[02:53] <szrhawaii> mat_dev all you need to do is go to the grub editor and upload the tarball into the theme part if you have kde 8.10
[02:55] <OxDeadC0de> szrhawaii this isn't just grub background, it's pictures, graphical menu (probably with Vesa), looks slick, http://grub.gibibit.com/Journal  latest release was the 19th
[02:55] <DasKreech> szrhawaii: How do you normally get an IP ?
[02:56] <matt_dev> OxDeadC0de: u find out how to set it up
[02:56] <szrhawaii> it was working but i forgot what i did and i usually get them automatically cause its a laptop
[02:56] <OxDeadC0de> matt_dev I'm doing what it says on the journal page int he link above
[02:56] <matt_dev> oh ok
[02:56] <matt_dev> check this out too
[02:56] <matt_dev> http://tuxenclave.wordpress.com/2008/01/18/how-to-install-gfx-grub-in-ubuntu/
[02:57] <szrhawaii> kmenu>system>system settings>advanced>grub editor>options>background allows you to upload a gfx menu file
[02:57] <OxDeadC0de> matt_dev that's cool, but that was written jan 2008, the last release was dec 19 2008
[02:58] <OxDeadC0de> hmm
[02:58] <DasKreech> szrhawaii: sudo dhclient
[02:58] <szrhawaii> ok check
[02:59] <szrhawaii> now what do i do
[02:59] <glenn> hello
[02:59] <binMonkey> hi, guys.
[02:59] <Kurowsaki> wuzzap
[03:00] <szrhawaii> hola
[03:00] <binMonkey> i can't open a cd that came with a programming book.  i get the message permisssion denied.  i
[03:00] <Kurowsaki> como estas hoy
[03:00] <binMonkey> i've tried chmod and chown it but no luck.
[03:00] <szrhawaii> good
[03:00] <szrhawaii> you
[03:00] <Kurowsaki> usted habla ingles
[03:01] <Kurowsaki> good
[03:01] <szrhawaii> yeah
[03:01] <Kurowsaki> im new to ubuntu but i love it
[03:01] <szrhawaii> So Daskreech should i pastebin that as well
[03:02] <Kurowsaki> see u guys l8r
[03:02] <OxDeadC0de> szrhawaii do you have any idea of any packages with gfx menu files?
[03:04] <matt_dev> szrhawaii: where do i get themes though
[03:07] <szrhawaii_> DasKreech still got nothing
[03:12] <szrhawaii__> i got booted so im not sure if you answered
[03:12] <matt_dev> anyone find out how to use the graphical themes in grub
[03:13] <matt_dev> szrhawaii: applying thru grub editor didnt work
[03:14] <OxDeadC0de> matt_dev I found some too, ganna test in a second
[03:14] <OxDeadC0de> like, right now, brb
[03:14] <matt_dev> good
[03:17] <szrhawaii__> DasKreech you still there
[03:19] <DasKreech> !es
[03:19] <matt_dev> DasKreech: how did it go
[03:19] <szrhawaii__> hey DasKreech that didnt work
[03:20] <DasKreech> matt_dev: They are on KDe-look.org
[03:20] <DasKreech> matt_dev: what version of Kubuntu are you on?
[03:20] <matt_dev> 8.10
[03:20] <matt_dev> kde 4.1
[03:20] <DasKreech> szrhawaii__: What did dhclient say?
[03:21] <szrhawaii__> let me do it again
[03:21] <DasKreech> matt_dev: systemsettings -> advanced -> grub editor -> options -> background -> Get new
[03:21] <kevin_> can anyone tell me how I can find out if my pc is i586 or i386?
[03:21] <matt_dev> its not only the background
[03:21] <szrhawaii__> first it said wmaster: unknown hardware address type 801
[03:21] <matt_dev> its a whole graphical interface
[03:22] <kevin_> I am trying to download a iso
[03:22] <Dragnslcr> kevin_- is the CPU older than a Pentium?
[03:22] <szrhawaii__> then it keep trying to connect to get one but nothing
[03:22] <kevin_> no
[03:22] <kevin_> intel duo
[03:23] <DasKreech> kevin_: If you are running ubuntu it's not 1386
[03:23] <kevin_> xps 210 dell
[03:23] <kevin_> ok
[03:23] <kevin_> must be 586 then I guess
[03:23] <DasKreech> matt_dev: You'll need to compile that or find a third party package
[03:23] <kevin_> thanks
[03:23] <OxDeadC0de> matt_dev didn't work here either
[03:24] <OxDeadC0de> what'd you find out?
[03:24] <DasKreech> szrhawaii__: Hmm what happens if you do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart ?
[03:24] <matt_dev> OxDeadC0de: mine didnt work either
[03:24] <matt_dev> :(
[03:25] <szrhawaii__> it said reconfigurings network interfaces....ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0
[03:25] <DasKreech> szrhawaii__: And whats the output of ifconfig now ?
[03:26] <davmarts> Hello?
[03:26] <DasKreech> !hi
[03:26] <szrhawaii__> still looks the same as earlier
[03:26] <Dragnslcr> kevin_- what kind of software has separate versions for i386 and i586?
[03:26] <davmarts> quelqu'un parle francais?
[03:27] <Pici> !fr | davmarts
[03:27] <davmarts> ok sorry
[03:28] <szrhawaii__> now its saying reconfiguring ....ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.done
[03:29] <szrhawaii__> then it said reconfiguring network interfaces....done
[03:29] <szrhawaii__> now what do i do DasKreech
[03:29] <DasKreech> szrhawaii__: sudo dhclient
[03:31] <szrhawaii__> DasKreech heres what ive got http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m9229d4b
[03:31] <davmarts> who prefer ubuntu?
[03:31] <matt_dev> OxDeadC0de: found anything?
[03:37] <OxDeadC0de> matt_dev I'm trying the journal method, just reinstalled grub, sec, rebooting, hope I didn't fry my grub :P
[03:37] <OxDeadC0de> good thing for live cd's
[03:39] <DasKreech> szrhawaii__: The wireless picks upa ip address?
[03:39] <szrhawaii__> yeah but the ethernet doesnt
[03:40] <DasKreech> szrhawaii__: is it plugged into the wireless router?
[03:41] <szrhawaii__> well i have to be plugged into wireless to talk on here
[03:41] <szrhawaii__> but i also have the ethernet plugged in to
[03:41] <DasKreech> Are you sure?
[03:41] <szrhawaii__> yep
[03:41] <DasKreech> it should get a ip  then
[03:41] <eagles0513875> hi DasKreech
[03:41] <DasKreech> is it plugged into the uplink
[03:41] <DasKreech> Hi eagles0513875
[03:41] <szrhawaii__> its both plugged in
[03:42] <szrhawaii__> it should get a ping but i got nothing on the eth0
[03:42] <DasKreech> szrhawaii__: has this ever worked?
[03:43] <szrhawaii__> when i first did the upgrade it didnt then i forgot what i did and it worked then two days ago it went back to not working
[03:43] <eagles0513875> szrhawaii__: you upgraded from hardy to intrepid right
[03:43] <DasKreech> Ha ha :)
[03:43] <szrhawaii__> yeah
[03:43] <eagles0513875> well i did the exact same thing but i ran into other issues
[03:43] <eagles0513875> my x server broke
[03:44] <eagles0513875> lol clean install everything is fine
[03:44] <eagles0513875> and i have had great success on clean installs with wifi and wired no issues
[03:44] <szrhawaii__> on hardy my wireless didnt catch this one wireless now i go to intrepid now my eth0 doesnt work
[03:44] <DasKreech> eagles0513875: Awwww didn't want to fix a broken X that's pretty fun
[03:44] <eagles0513875> DasKreech: no
[03:44] <eagles0513875> this machine had been upgraded since feisty
[03:45] <DasKreech> szrhawaii__: Around when did it stop working?
[03:45] <eagles0513875> i ran a dpkg-- rconfigure annd that didnt work
[03:45] <szrhawaii__> lets see actually last night
[03:45] <szrhawaii__> it was working this whole weekend too
[03:46] <szrhawaii__> i think it was when i put a code into my terminal
[03:46] <szrhawaii__> i think i did a systat or netstat or something
[03:47] <szrhawaii__> then my stuff was gone after
[03:47] <szrhawaii__> no more eth0
[03:47] <szrhawaii__> i had this problem before
[03:48] <szrhawaii__> and i forgot what i did in terminal to make it configure properly
[03:48] <eagles0513875> outa curiosity what wifi card do you have
[03:48] <DasKreech> eagles0513875: You know the recovery console has a fix button ?
[03:48] <szrhawaii__> who me eagles
[03:48] <eagles0513875> DasKreech:  ya and i ran that and it didnt work
[03:48] <eagles0513875> szrhawaii__: ya
[03:48] <DasKreech> szrhawaii__: pastebin your history
[03:48] <szrhawaii__> which history DasKreech
[03:49] <eagles0513875> bash
[03:49] <szrhawaii__> the one from today
[03:49] <eagles0513875> actually szrhawaii__ you should chek there cuz that will have the last 1000 commands you have done
[03:49] <szrhawaii__> i think the one last night is gone
[03:50] <szrhawaii__> how do i get the history
[03:50] <loganWHD> hey anyone know of a program to do screen sharing in ubuntu?
[03:50] <loganWHD> not like vnc for a seperate session but like teamviewer?
[03:51] <szrhawaii__> eagles0513875 my wireless works fine though its my eth0
[03:51] <eagles0513875> can you do an lspci and tell me what kind of ethernet card its finding
[03:53] <szrhawaii__> Marvell Technology Group ltd 88E8038 PCI-E Fast Ethernet controller
[03:53] <eagles0513875> tthats funny this desktop has that and im having no issues
[03:53] <DasKreech> szrhawaii__: either type history and redirect it to a file or tail ~/.bash_history
[03:53] <DasKreech> !nx
[03:53] <DasKreech> loganWHD: ^^^ you can try that
[03:54] <moDumass> hey all, you know that wee display that shows how many virtual desktops you have? how do i get that back?
[03:54] <szrhawaii__> yeah it only shows the ones for today
[03:54] <loganWHD> thank you
[03:54] <eagles0513875> DasKreech: could it be that kde4 migrates away qt3 to qt4 and ther eis a network card issue
[03:54] <szrhawaii__> ok the history one worked
[03:55] <DasKreech> moDumass: What version of KDe are you on?
[03:55] <moDumass> DasKreech. where would i find out?
[03:55] <DasKreech> szrhawaii__: It's supposed to hold the last 500 commands You have done over 500 comamnds today ?
[03:56] <szrhawaii__> yeah the history one worked
[03:56] <moDumass> DasKreech. just installed ubuntu desktop last night
[03:56] <DasKreech> moDumass: does alt+space do anything ?
[03:56] <szrhawaii__> heres the history http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m45efe39
[03:56] <moDumass> DasKreech, yeh right click menu appears
[03:57] <DasKreech> moDumass: Ha ha  ok This is Gnome then
[03:57] <DasKreech> moDumass: You may want to ask in #ubuntu
[03:58] <eagles0513875> DasKreech:  did you read what i said above
[03:58] <moDumass> DasKreech, sorry its KDE4.2
[03:58] <DasKreech> eagles0513875: No. WEll I just did. That doesn't make sense what are you trying to say?
[03:59] <moDumass> DasKreech, sorry ignore that
[03:59] <DasKreech> moDumass: oh umm ok right click on the panel -> add widgets -> search for pager -> add widget
[03:59] <moDumass> pager, ok, cool, thanks
[03:59] <moDumass> DasKreech, thanks, i was looking for a name, and pager didnt seem like it
[04:00] <DasKreech> szrhawaii__: what were you editing resolv.conf for?
[04:01] <eagles0513875> DasKreech: isnt kde4 programmed in something entierly different then kde3 and alots of incompatibility
[04:01] <szrhawaii__> oh i forgot that was today
[04:02] <DasKreech> eagles0513875: Umm .. I'm going to go with a no on that
[04:02] <szrhawaii__> i think line 82 and up is from yesterday
[04:05] <szrhawaii__> actually line 114 looks about right
[04:06] <szrhawaii__> cause i remember starting off with a ifconfig and iwconfig
[04:07] <szrhawaii__> i would say the problem started on line 31 DasKreech
[04:07] <szrhawaii__> i mean 32
[04:08] <szrhawaii__> down
[04:08] <loganWHD> thanks guys
[04:08] <loganWHD> bbialb
[04:08] <DasKreech> Woah :) Why are you installing bind?
[04:09] <szrhawaii__> the terminal said it was missing that but it didnt install
[04:11] <DasKreech> Why would you need bind?
[04:11] <DasKreech> is this a server?
[04:11] <szrhawaii__> no
[04:12] <szrhawaii__> i forgot why terminal asked for it
[04:12] <szrhawaii__> but it didnt install so i dont have it
[04:14] <szrhawaii__> nevermind bind9 is installed should i take that out DasKreech
[04:14] <DasKreech> It shouldn't kill eth0 but I have no idea why a desktop would need it
[04:15] <szrhawaii__> i can take it out though
[04:16] <szrhawaii__> should i
[04:18] <DasKreech> If you like it should neither help nor harm this process but you have been playing with networking quite a bit it seems
[04:18] <szrhawaii__> yeah
[04:18] <szrhawaii__> because its not working
[04:19] <szrhawaii__> with eth0
[04:20] <Kurowsaki> hi ppls
[04:20] <Kurowsaki> anyone on
[04:20] <szrhawaii__> so what should i do
[04:20] <Kurowsaki> how dlkingo u report someone for sta
[04:21] <DasKreech> szrhawaii__: What's netstat -x do ?
[04:21] <Kurowsaki> how do you report someone for stalking
[04:21] <DasKreech> Why did you run that?
[04:21] <DasKreech> Kurowsaki: you call the police
[04:21] <Kurowsaki> i mean online
[04:22] <szrhawaii__> lists unix domain sockets
[04:22] <szrhawaii__> just ran it to see
[04:22] <DasKreech> Kurowsaki: If they are following you you can just leave the internet :)
[04:22] <Kurowsaki> i know but it is just creepy
[04:22] <DasKreech> szrhawaii__: and nat
[04:22] <DasKreech> ?
[04:23] <szrhawaii__> misspelling
[04:23] <DasKreech> Kurowsaki: Tell them to leave you alone, stop hanging out in places they do block their IP address
[04:23] <DasKreech> Of what?
[04:23] <szrhawaii__> netstat
[04:24] <Kurowsaki> this was on ir chat
[04:24] <szrhawaii__> wasnt paying attention
[04:26] <DasKreech> Kurowsaki: Put them on ignore
[04:27] <DasKreech> szrhawaii__: So you were connected to the wireless all this time?
[04:27] <szrhawaii__> no
[04:28] <szrhawaii__> i did a few of them while on eth0
[04:28] <szrhawaii__> then my eth0 shut off
[04:28] <szrhawaii__> then i switched to wireless
[04:28] <szrhawaii__> then thats were the ifconfig came in on line 43
[04:29] <szrhawaii__> i mean 38
[04:30] <wigtor-gl> hola
[04:30] <szrhawaii__> actually i take that back around 65 is where i came back online
[04:31] <szrhawaii__> i forgot i used the terminal to run konversation then after that it was down hill
[04:31] <wigtor-gl> exist a IRC in spanish about kubuntu or kde?
[04:31] <szrhawaii__> #kubuntu-es
[04:32] <wigtor-gl> thank you
[04:32] <DasKreech> !info systat
[04:32] <DasKreech> ok
[04:34] <szrhawaii__> yeah i figured that after
[04:34] <szrhawaii__> i have a command book so yeah
[04:35] <szrhawaii__> but some codes only work for certain machines
[04:38] <szrhawaii__> so is there a fix for it
[04:38] <szrhawaii__> is there a way to manually configure  it
[04:40] <DasKreech> szrhawaii__: Well it happened after an update so I think something there might be the issue
[04:42] <szrhawaii__> but there was no  updates
[04:42] <szrhawaii__> if i remember correctly
[04:43] <DasKreech> hmmm
[04:43] <DasKreech> ok
[04:43] <szrhawaii__> is there a way to manually configure it back
[04:44] <DasKreech> Yeah I guess
[04:44] <szrhawaii__> do you   know how
[04:44] <DasKreech> add the line auto eth0 to /etc/network/interfaces
[04:45] <szrhawaii__> ok
[04:46] <szrhawaii__> should i put it above or below auto lo
[04:46] <`H> Will 256 MB of ram be good enough for Kubuntu?
[04:47] <DasKreech> below
[04:47] <mister-tea> not really but you can load it from the alt cd
[04:47] <szrhawaii__> but not below the loopback part right
[04:47] <DasKreech> `H: That's dicey it will work but it's not going to be very comfortable
[04:48] <`H> okay.
[04:48] <`H> so I guess Il get xubuntu
[04:48] <mister-tea> that's what i'm saying ...I made it work but it was painfully slow
[04:49] <mister-tea> if you don't mind 10 to 20 seconds for apps to load then...
[04:49] <corigo2> 8.10 on Lenovo T61 - Can hear my internal microphone through the speakers to the point that is deafening, but can't get Skype or Mumble to register even a peep
[04:54] <mister-tea> !skype
[04:54] <mister-tea> that's it for me after that idk
[04:55] <szrhawaii> DasKreech it didnt work
[04:56] <DasKreech> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart then check ifconfig
[04:57] <szrhawaii> k
[04:58] <szrhawaii> it says interrupt 16
[04:59] <DasKreech> which does?
[04:59] <szrhawaii> the eth0
[04:59] <DasKreech> Which command?
[04:59] <szrhawaii> ifconfig
[05:01] <szrhawaii> the lo and wlan0 say rx bytes and tx bytes
[05:01] <szrhawaii> the sudo command says ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0 and same with eth0=eth0
[05:03] <szrhawaii> should i manually put in a loopback under eth0
[05:03] <szrhawaii> in etc
[05:03] <DasKreech> no It's not a loopback device
[05:03] <szrhawaii> ok
[05:05] <szrhawaii> gonna reboot be back
[05:08] <hang3r> g'day all, I have a stock kubuntu install, at KDM the mouse and keyboard will not work, mouse disappears after a couple of seconds and I can't login, if i jump into a console and kill Xorg I can startx and KDE appears to load fine, however the mouse and keyboard still don't work. What is going on? Never have this problem with ubuntu
[05:09] <hang3r> keyboard mapping purhaps?
[05:10] <DasKreech> hang3r: You have gnome on the machine?
[05:10] <szrhawaii> yeah still got nothing
[05:13] <hang3r> DasKreech, did, was a ubuntu box, switched to kubuntu (or was going to).
[05:13] <DasKreech> hang3r: So you don't have gnome on it now? how did you install kubuntu ?
[05:13] <DasKreech> szrhawaii: what does sudo ifconfig -a say ?
[05:13] <hang3r> straight from a CD
[05:13] <hang3r> checked the CD for errors, no problems
[05:14] <szrhawaii> still says interrupt:16
[05:15] <hang3r> ill boot into kubuntu and come on with irssi, might be a little more helpfull if I could be running under it
[05:28] <thiago> anyone know how to work out the graphical interface of grub?
[05:33] <DasKreech> thiago: Work out?
[05:33] <thiago> ?
[05:41] <DasKreech> blessedbeef!
[05:57] <aceto2> ok, I've installed compiz and emerald on kubuntu 8.04 and I've got a lot of problems
[05:57] <aceto2> first, some effects like cube and fire don't work
[05:57] <aceto2> emerald acts weird
[05:58] <aceto2> most themes don't work correctly, and blur is inactive. When compiz starts up, it says that xgl is missing. Could this be the problem? and how do I fix it?
[05:59] <aceto2> I've gone to loads of forums and everyone seems to have a different opinion on how to fix this, and none of them work.
[06:01] <aceto2> I'd appreciate help on this :)
[06:02] <jcontreras> hi!
[06:26] <dev_> wssssssssssssss
[06:41] <benbloom> what's a good app for formatting disks? I'd like to reformat my flash drive to make it work well with both windows and linux (FAT?)
[06:44] <benbloom> wow it's dead here tonight! everyone out shoppin?
[06:45] <DasKreech> !fat
[06:47] <benbloom> I looked there DasKreech. it's about mounting not formatting.
[06:47] <DasKreech> benbloom: I'll assume you didn't look at man mkfs.vfat
[06:48] <benbloom> that's what I'm looking for! (i think) thanks
[06:49] <singgih> hay
[06:51] <OxDeadC0de> matt_dev still here?
[06:56] <OxDeadC0de> if anyone's interested I finalllly got the graphical grub stuff going woot. it looks spiffy
[06:59] <OxDeadC0de> has anyone had any luck with splashy on 8.10? The progress bar doesn't move anymore with it.. did in 8.04 (of course)
[07:07] <binskipy2u> anyone here using kde 4.2 beta2?
[07:12] <Salze> binskipy2u: Yes.
[07:16] <binskipy2u> is it "better" faster, any major shortcomings?
[07:16] <Salze> Compared to?
[07:17] <binskipy2u> 4.1.3
[07:19] <Salze> In my opinion it is a big step forward. I didn't find any shortcomings, the graphics feel faster (that is highly subjective - I didn't do any tests) and it has a lot of new features - some of which are very important to me(systray plasmoid, powermanagement).
[07:20] <OxDeadC0de> saize did you use a repo or compile it yourself?
[07:21] <binskipy2u> good to hear.. i'm looking forward to it, hopefully kubuntu puts it in 8.10, instead of waiting for jaunty
[07:22] <binskipy2u> i disabled all effects, even though i have 4 gigs ram and a 256ati HD pcie card
[07:22] <Salze> It is available for 8.10.
[07:22] <binskipy2u> and it FLIES... i have no swap file either.. i use just the system ram
[07:23] <Salze> I have enabled quite a few effects on my 4 year old notebook with 1 GB RAM and 1.6 GHz CPU and i810 graphics card.
[07:23] <binskipy2u> i dont wanna use beta anything.. ill wait till its stable
[07:23] <binskipy2u> i got this system so tweaked for speed etc.. i dont wanna do anything cept use whats been tested
[07:24] <Salze> I didn't tweak mine at all. :-)
[07:24] <Salze> Guess it always depends on what you do and what your expectations are.
[07:24] <binskipy2u> id be using slackware.. but its not for 64bit
[07:24] <binskipy2u> so far k(u)buntu 64bit works very well for my system
[07:25] <Salze> No, didn't compile myself.
[07:25] <Salze> Repo.
[07:32] <rotti> busy place...well happy holadays.
[07:32] <rotti> im new to kbuntu...so ill watch for a while.
[07:33] <genii> rotti: It's somewhat quiet right now, but it ebbs and flows
[07:35] <OxDeadC0de> baahh so has anyone with cpu frequency scaling tested the new ruby widget yet?
[07:44] <hang3r> hehe, konqueror hasn't changed since I last used it years ago, still crashes like a drunk driver :D
[07:45] <havok487> drunk  dude in us.....any takers
[07:45] <havok487> try mozila
[07:46] <havok487> any of you fuckers wanna chat
[07:46] <hang3r> I already am, first thing that's a requirement with any operating system imo
[07:46] <havok487> sweet i love linux....4 lines an 5 andafuckers
[07:47] <aviz> i am new to irc
[07:47] <havok487> noo kick
[07:48]  * hang3r throws shoe at havok487
[07:48] <OxDeadC0de> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime_4%3a4.1.85-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1_i386.deb (--unpack): rying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libkwalletbackend.so', which is also in package kdelibs4-dev
[07:49] <OxDeadC0de> >< now I can't upgrade, can't remove kdelibs4-dev, i think something broke .. :|
[07:55] <Salze> OxDeadC0de: you could try cd /var/cache/apt/archive && sudo dpkg -i --force-all *.deb --- that's what has helped me in similar situations. But I wouldn't do it without a good backup. You might do sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade before. Plus you might need to run sudo apt-get -f install afterwards, followed by sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again.
[08:03] <OxDeadC0de> I almost want to say I'd put money on this happening because I had amarok4 installed from ppa.launchpad too
[08:13] <aviz> i wanna know if u can transfer files here like MIRC
[08:13] <aviz> anybody
[08:13] <Salze> aviz: What do you mean by "here"?
[08:14] <aviz> i am new to linux
[08:14] <aviz> so just wondering
[08:15] <Salze> Whether you can transfer files or not depends on the program you are using.
[08:15] <Salze> Konversation, for instance, supports file transfer, as far as I know.
[08:15] <aviz> ook
[08:16] <OxDeadC0de> ok well... saize, did what you said, now the error is a (little) nicer... : The following packages have been kept back: gwenview kdegraphics
[08:17] <OxDeadC0de> how do I force upgrade of packages that have been "kept back"?
[08:17] <Salze> That's not an error - that's just an information. You can install them by sudo apt-get install gwenview kgraphics
[08:17] <Salze> kdegraphics
[08:17] <OxDeadC0de> oh I see ty
[08:18] <OxDeadC0de> ok then.. brb hopefully in 4.2
[08:18] <Salze> cu :-)
[08:29] <OxDeadC0de> other than missing a bunch of plasmoids, it's better
[08:30] <Salze> Strange, I didn't have less than before, but much more.
[08:31] <OxDeadC0de> hmm I got a couple more, but overall.. lancelot was removed, show desktop is gone, 2x other's are missing too don't remember what, comic is gone
[08:33] <Salze> I have all of those.
[08:40] <OxDeadC0de> sweet, got them by installing "kdeplasma-addons"
[08:42] <hyper_ch> OxDeadC0de: huhu
[08:47] <hang3r> Anyone know where the LCD weather station widgets settings are located? It's not showing anything for its data source and thus not getting weather information
[08:47] <OxDeadC0de> hang3r i was about to ask the same thin.
[08:50] <hang3r> theres not much info on it from searching google
[08:50] <hang3r> so if you come up with anything OxDeadC0de send me a shout
[09:13] <Andrew``> hey all
[09:14] <Andrew``> I have kubuntu ona hard drive, but am wanting to re-install XP on another drive that I will purchase later this week. Will I have to re-install Kubuntu after I install XP for a dual=boot system?
[09:15] <hyper_ch> Andrew``: simplest thing would be to unplug the linux drive during the xp install
[09:16] <hyper_ch> Andrew``: and replug it after install, make it the primary to boot from bios
[09:16] <hyper_ch> Andrew``: and then add an entry in the grub menu lst for booting windows
[09:16] <Andrew``> Ok I think I can handle that :)
[09:17] <hyper_ch> Andrew``: you need to chain load windows for that... google will tell you the right grub menu entries
[10:02] <amerigo_> hello---> how can i change my user name in login ?
[10:03] <Salze_> amerigo: usermod
[10:09] <amerigo_> ! usermod
[10:10] <Salze_> amerigo: try "man usermod".
[10:10] <yao_ziyuan1> kde sucks now, isn't it
[10:10] <amerigo_> Salze_: give me an example of usermod
[10:10] <amerigo_> man usermod
[10:10] <amerigo_> in console
[10:10] <Salze_> Yes.
[10:11] <Salze_> I have no example, sorry. I just know that it's the right tool.
[10:11] <hang3r> yao_ziyuan1: yeah pretty much, I can't get anything to work. It's quite a bit less polished then gnome imo
[10:12] <yao_ziyuan1> kde3 is more stable
[10:12] <yao_ziyuan1> i mean mature
[10:12] <yao_ziyuan1> there is a big gap between kde3 and a mature kde4
[10:12] <yao_ziyuan1> which drove me to gnome.
[10:13] <hang3r> dont get me wrong, kde4 will get there... one day
[10:14] <yao_ziyuan1> then i find gnome also pretty: http://i41.tinypic.com/1j7sya.png
[10:14] <yao_ziyuan1> fedora introduced the Nodoka gtk theme
[10:15] <yao_ziyuan1> plus a clean X-Colors metacity
[10:24] <cllaudyu> i need a bit off help here i don't know how to open the desktop... i closed it after the install...
[10:25] <Salze_> cllaudyu: you mean the folderview plasmoid?
[10:27] <apparle> hi
[10:30] <apparle> Whenever I copy a file to a pen drive it copies with a speed of 200Kbps and like that, but when I copy the same file in windows on same pendrive, it copies fast.. I am facing the problem since I installed 8.10
[10:34] <apparle> why is the write operation to USB drive very slow
[10:51] <apparle> is anyone here
[10:51] <apparle> ??
[10:54] <cuznt> maybe
[10:55] <OxDeadC0de> I'm trying to figure out how to setup a weather datasource for 4.2 but for the life of me can't find anything on google
[10:58] <cuznt> there is a weather applet for super karamba
[10:58] <cuznt> and firefox has a weather add on
[10:58] <Salze_> OxDeadC0de: Doesn't work for me, too, on beta 2. It worked on beta 1.
[10:59] <OxDeadC0de> saize_ for me there are no datasources, and I'm in plasmaengineexplorer and it won't let me add any :|
[10:59] <OxDeadC0de> kind of sucks, and every time the comic plasmoid loads a comic it crashes plasma
[11:00] <doc___> hi there
[11:01] <Salze_> OxDeadC0de: Like I said: I have the same problem currently with beta 2. It worked on beta 1 for me.
[11:02] <Salze_> OxDeadC0de: That is concerning the LCD weather plasmoid. The comic one works fine.
[11:14] <OxDeadC0de> well, got the comics to stop crashing.. i had a lot of comics installed, so I removed them all, then one at a time installed every comic available.. turned one on.. first time it crashed plasma again...
[11:15] <OxDeadC0de> but then when it came back on it saved the setting, loaded the comic, and didn't crash.. now I can change it to diff comics and it doesn't crash.
[11:30] <Koordin> hi i have an annoying problem : i have to type 'sudo dhclient' in order to connect to internet and i have to retype it every minute in order not to be disconnected ; i'm on wifi ; does someone have an idea ? i've already tried to set up a static address ip as shown there but with no result : (eth0 is my wifi interface) http://paste.ubuntu.com/92145/
[11:37] <Salze_> Koordin: have you tried with an empty configuration file?
[11:38] <Koordin> i've tried with  juste the first two lines
[11:38] <Koordin> just*
[11:38] <Salze_> Yes.
[11:39] <Salze_> That's what I meant. Leave lo, delete the rest.
[11:39] <Koordin> just 'lo' ?
[11:41] <Salze_> http://pastebin.ca/1292957
[11:41] <Salze_> That's mine.
[11:42] <_2> s=delete=comment out=g
[11:44] <Koordin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/92152/ this is what happens during the minute, Salze_
[11:46] <Salze_> Koordin: You have the same IP address on two interfaces. That cannot be good. ;-)
[11:46] <Koordin> eth1 is down
[11:47] <Koordin> or maybe it is not
[11:47] <wsjunior> hello. im using kde4 here. is there any way to replace this ugly blue color of the panel plasmoid?
[11:47] <_2> Salze_ unless they are bridged
[11:48] <Salze_> Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth1.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.2.
[11:48] <Salze_> eth1 -> 192.168.1.2
[11:48] <Salze_> iface eth0 inet static
[11:48] <Salze_> address 192.168.1.2
[11:48] <Koordin> eth0 is wifi, eth1 is ethernet
[11:48] <Koordin> i'm using the wifi
[11:49] <wsjunior> im usign oxygen theme that looks black when i select it but when i apply it doesnt stay black as it used to be before..
[11:49] <Salze_> Koordin: Do yourself a favor: use different addresses (even different subnets) for different networks.
[11:50] <Koordin> Salze_, how ? i don't want to use eth1 ; i have to shut it down
[11:50] <_2> or bridge them if you intend to have only one network
[11:50] <Salze_> Just remove (delete or comment) the corresponding entries in the /etc/netwok/interfaces file.
[11:51] <Koordin> my ethernet cable is not plugged and i don't want to use the eth1 interface
[11:51] <Salze_> *sigh*
[11:52] <_2> Koordin intent to not use hardware does not indicate that not configuring the hardware correctly would be a good idea.    i.e. in your particular case the malconfigured device might intercept data intended for the other interface
[11:54]  * _2 tninks there may be too many 'nots' in that
[11:55] <_2> anyway, reguardless of grammer the point remains the same,  it's better to have well configured hardware that is never used than misconfigured hardware that is used inadvertantly
[12:02] <_2> personally in such a case i would advise bridging the two interfaces and letting dhcp give the br0 it's ip  that way if at some point you decide to plug a cable in, it's already configured and what's on the cable can access both that box and whats on the wifi seemlessly as that box can also access both
[12:03] <Koordin> Salze_  i've deleted all the lines but the first two and this seems to work, but i don't know for how long
[12:09] <_2> i was told one time that this wouldnt work, http://pastebin.com/f283278f2  it works flawlessly for me though.   note: it is all static.  one would need only change the static to dhcp on the br0 for dynamic ip
[12:09] <_2> !worksforme > me
[12:11] <_2> however i might point out that it does induce a slight delay at boot time if one interface is not connected.  for one that boots the system often that might be undesirable
[12:12] <_2> slight=74sec.
[12:12] <_2> but that's adjustable too
[12:22] <geek> how do i force a kubuntu system to fsck a drive on boot?
[12:23] <_2> i'm seriously considering upgrading from ubuntu dapper lts debian etch stable    any thoughts ?
[12:23] <stdin> faileas: The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check
[12:23] <faileas> stdin: thanks
[12:23] <hyper_ch> I'd go for lenny
[12:23] <faileas> heh
[12:23] <faileas> actually its for a VM i'm testing out various backuo software on
[12:24] <_2> hyper_ch stable is the only option as far as i'm concerned
[12:24] <hyper_ch> lenny rc == stable on most distros
[12:24] <faileas> mondo failed, i'm trying acronis but it insists both partitions on the box (windows and linux) are borked
[12:24] <_2> hyper_ch heh. you don't seem to understand the concept, but thanks.
[12:24] <faileas> hyper_ch: well yeah, but debian has a slightly unique release system
[12:25] <hyper_ch> I know... hence debian rc is in most cases more stable than what other distros claim as stable
[12:26]  * faileas has lenny on his file/misc server. pondering swapping to ubuntu server since bitlebee dosen't work on debian for some reason, and i can get it working on ubuntu
[12:26] <faileas> stdin: hmm, that didn't make it check
[12:27] <hyper_ch> faileas: hdaperms and make it to check after 1 reboot on all the hds... upon next, it wil fsck and then change the hdaperms again
[12:27] <faileas> hyper_ch: no such command
[12:28] <hyper_ch> faileas: hdparm
[12:28] <michael__> test
[12:29] <stdin> faileas: you can try "sudo tune2fs -C 99 /dev/device" (whare /dev/device is the partition you want to check)
[12:29] <_2> anyway, i think i will try the upgrade and if i can't get that to work out, i'll just install from etch cd
[12:29] <hyper_ch> or was it tune2fs? I think I met that
[12:29] <hyper_ch> I meant that
[12:29] <_2> hyper_ch yeah tune2fs
[12:30] <_2> there is also touch /.autofsck   or some such
[12:31] <_2> which will force an fs check   you can look in the init script for the exact filename
[12:31] <stdin> /forcefsck
[12:31] <stdin> that's what mine has anyway
[12:31] <faileas> stdin: thats dangerous isn't it?
[12:32] <stdin> faileas: what is?
[12:32] <_2> my scripts use /.uncleen   </shrugs>
[12:32] <faileas> forcing fsck on a running file system?
[12:32] <_2> but i wrote them so, what can you expect.
[12:32] <_2> faileas heh that's not what that file does
[12:33] <stdin> it's not dangerous, it just checks the filesystem
[12:33] <_2> faileas it does the same as setting the mount count higher than the maxmountcount
[12:34]  * faileas is a litle confused now
[12:34] <faileas> granted i already did the equivilent on windows and it was quite simple >_>
[12:34] <faileas> would an unclean shutdown force it?
[12:35] <_2> redhat systems used to use that file to detect crash state  i.e. they did an rm /forcefsck  during shutdown or reboot    and recreated /forcefsck at boot time    thus if the file was there then the system had died and needed checked
[12:35]  * faileas grumbles... this is supposed to be a SIMPLE simulated dualboot.
[12:36] <_2> the file detection is still default in the init script checkrootfs   so you can create that file and reboot to force a check
[12:37] <guiterb> who had ever compiled the linux kernel
[12:37] <_2> i don't think ubuntu systems still check for unclean restarts via that methood  even though the facility is still coded in
[12:37] <_2> i have built a few kernels guiterb
[12:38] <guiterb> i use the cross-arm-linux compile the 2.6.14
[12:38] <guiterb> something wrong
[12:39] <dr_willis> !kernel
[12:39] <dr_willis> thats all i know on the topic. :()
[12:39] <guiterb> i know it
[12:39] <_2> !stages
[12:39] <dr_willis> Sonmthing that 'hard-core' may be best to see if the foryums have a area/thread on any issues
[12:40] <guiterb> guiterb@guiterb:/opt/EmbedSky/kernel-2.6.13$ make menuconfig
[12:40] <guiterb>   HOSTCC  scripts/basic/fixdep
[12:40] <guiterb> what is the difference between the i686  and i 486
[12:41] <_2> 200
[12:41] <_2> :)
[12:41] <dr_willis> i=sqrt(-1)
[12:41] <dr_willis> :)
[12:41] <faileas> guiterb: if you are compiling for the arm, neither is correct
[12:41] <SoftVision> hi id like to make a suggestion for the jaunty release. ive just read in the wiki that konversation could be dropped since its qt3 based so id like to suggest including Quassel (configured as localhost to save a couple of steps).
[12:42] <faileas> SoftVision: i THINK the next version of konversation will support qt4
[12:42] <SoftVision> faileas: i dont know whether it will be ready by the jaunty release.
[12:44] <faileas> hmm
[12:44] <faileas> sudo touch /forcefsck worked ^^
[12:44] <_2> ok, i have convinced my self that not having anything to fix is worse than haven a broken system  so i'm going to try a dist-upgrade from ubuntu dapper to debian etch
[12:45] <stdin> SoftVision: you can file a request at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/
[12:45] <SoftVision> stdin: thanks
[12:45] <_2> only thing i don't like about that, i'll have to make another user account to irc with. cause #debain bans username root
[12:46]  * _2 is not sure how he will protest ignorance on that issue now...
[12:46] <faileas> _2: wait, dapper to etch? o0
[12:46] <_2> faileas yep
[12:47] <faileas> that sounds quite... risky
[12:47] <_2> probably,
[12:47] <_2> your point ?
[12:48] <_2> perhaps i should try dapper to sid  ?
[12:48] <_2> ;/
[12:48] <_2> i can't repartition my lappy cause it doesn't have one.   so wish me luck !
what is your meaning?
[12:49] <guiterb> why not ?
[12:50] <guiterb> have you ever compile it for arm?
[12:51] <faileas> guiterb: i486 and i686 refer to varients of the x86 architecture
[12:52] <guiterb> but according to the book
[12:52] <mohit> HELP!!
[12:53] <mohit> i need to install mozilla firefox!!
[12:53] <guiterb> i can select the cpu in make menuconfig
[12:53] <mohit> with macromedia flash player
[12:53] <mohit> anyone can help me??
[12:53] <faileas> mohit: sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:54] <faileas> then sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:54] <mohit> it says
[12:54] <faileas> (in terminal/konsole/yakuake)
[12:55] <mohit> package is missing
[12:55] <mohit> i know abt that
[12:55] <faileas> mohit: sudo apt-get upgrade first maybe
[12:55] <mohit> but package is missing or has been obsoleted
[12:55] <mohit> 0
[12:55] <mohit> ??
[12:56] <mohit> faileas can u help me
[12:56] <dr_willis> I always install 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' to get flash and other bits
[12:56] <dr_willis> saves me having to rember what all i normall y install.. since most all the needed stuff is in there.
[13:02] <mohit> i am having problems
[13:02] <mohit> with sudo apt get
[13:02] <mohit> i have to add sources is that so???
[13:03] <dr_willis> whats the exact problem,?
[13:04] <dr_willis> and whats the exact command you are using
[13:05] <slhk> mohit: in /etc/apt/sources.list you need to add restricted
[13:09] <mohit> thanks slhk
[13:09] <Lektroluv> how do I login as root command line?
[13:10] <Lektroluv> login root doesn't work
[13:10] <dr_willis> use 'sudo -s' to get a root terminal
[13:10] <dr_willis> you do NOT NOT NOT directly login as root. :)
[13:10] <RurouniJones> Unless you know what you are doing
[13:10] <dr_willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[13:13] <Lektroluv> need some help setting up a shared folder in VirtualBox?
[13:14] <Lektroluv> running Kubuntu with VitualBox in Vista
[13:16] <dr_willis> You mean using the special Virtualbox 'guest addon' method? or using samba to network the Vbox machine to the real machine?
[13:17]  * faileas tends to prefer the latter ;p
[13:17] <dr_willis> I figured out how to do it the vbox-special-way under puppy linux  on his windows running  vbox machine...
[13:17] <dr_willis> Its documented at the ubuntu vbox page. ;0
[13:18] <dr_willis> !vbox
[13:18] <dr_willis>  as for using samba.. you just connect the 2 as if they were 2 seperate machines.. set workgroups, install samba, and so forth
[13:18] <faileas> dr_willis: i treat my VMs as if they were real boxen ;p
[13:18] <faileas> easier to keep track of
[13:19] <dr_willis> faileas,  yep. I set up one vbox as if it was on the main lan. and used it as a tftp server.
[13:19] <dr_willis>  I forget what disrto let me boot it up.. and poof = instant netbooting  on the rest of the lan.
[13:19] <dr_willis> some livecd.
[13:20] <fliegenderfrosch> anybody using kde 4.2 beta here? how stable is it already?
[13:20] <dr_willis> one of the many livecd's that have came and gone. :)
[13:35] <runpain2> God day all
[13:37] <runpain2> How can i make a custom color scheme for login gui
[13:38] <mitchell> does anyone have problem with locales, i have LC_ALL unset
[13:38] <mitchell> i dont know how to solve
[13:38] <wsjunior> hello. im using kde4 here. is there any way to replace this ugly blue color of the panel plasmoid?
[13:39] <mitchell> please help
[13:39] <mitchell> ive benn looking for a solution in google but it seems many people in intrepid have the same problem
[13:40] <mitchell> but no solution on the web
[13:40] <runpain2> BRB
[13:40] <mitchell> even in the forums, no one gives a solution
[13:41] <mitchell> ive already tried dpkg-reconfigure locales
[13:42] <mitchell> but that doest solve the problem
[13:42] <mitchell> please help
[13:43] <mitchell> nobody??
[13:44] <mitchell> hey, does no one want to help?
[13:46] <Pici> mitchell: have you installed localeconf?
[13:46] <mitchell> there is not such package in intrepid
[13:47] <Pici> Sorry, you're right.
[13:47] <edi_99> Hi guys which software is good for recording?
[13:47] <wsjunior> recording what?
[13:47] <edi_99> ie. guitar
[13:47] <mitchell> pici any other suggestion?
[13:47] <wsjunior> audacius
[13:47] <wsjunior> audacity
[13:47] <wsjunior> sorry
[13:47] <Pici> mitchell: Let me look around, one moment.
[13:47] <wsjunior> edi_99: i play guitar too..
[13:47] <edi_99> tnx
[13:48] <edi_99> wsjunior: sweet, did you have any trouble when pluggin the guitar into the mic?
[13:48] <jussi01> !ubuntustudio | edi_99
[13:49] <wsjunior> edi_99: not at all did u?
[13:49] <edi_99> wsjunior: I've tried to record smthing in traverso but it didn't work, as well as creox
[13:50] <edi_99> wsjunior: I've checked all the settings but still nothing
[13:51] <moosa> hello
[13:51] <moosa> andy help to have voice chat in ubuntu..
[13:51] <jussi01> !skype | moosa
[13:52] <moosa> thanks ubottu, what about gtalk.
[13:52] <jussi01> ubottu: is a bot
[14:13] <manager4> !
[14:20] <noaXess> hey all... merry christmas from switzerland..
[14:20] <mitchell> Feliz Navidad from Peru
[14:21] <wirechief> yea merry christmas from  MI USA
[14:22] <murchadh> Nollaig Shona from Ireland!
[14:22] <gnuton> Felice Natale dall Italia!
[14:23] <runpain2> God Day All
[14:23] <noaXess> ha.. the WHOLE word in one little IRC channel ;)
[14:23] <noaXess> world ^
[14:23] <mitchell> Feliz Navidad from Machu Picchu!!!! yeahh
[14:23] <noaXess> mitchell: wow.. where is machu picchu?
[14:23] <runpain2> Merry Christmas from me
[14:24] <mitchell> haha come and visit Machu Picchu in Peru
[14:24] <noaXess> aha ;)..
[14:24] <runpain2> Happy Jesus Christ's Birthday
[14:25] <runpain2> ;P
[14:25] <mitchell> and english, the world language!!
[14:26] <Guest25277> what is the equivalent to tortoisesvn for kubuntu?
[14:26] <runpain2> how do i add a color scheme for kde in system folder
[14:27] <Guest25277> !subversion
[14:27] <runpain2> where all the color schemes are kept
[14:29] <zoomflux> hell
[14:30] <noaXess> Guest25277: i use kdesvn
[14:30] <noaXess> !kdesvn | Guest25277
[14:30] <noaXess> !info kdesvn | Guest25277
[14:30] <zoomflux> talk?
[14:30] <PSiL0> !fstan
[14:30] <PSiL0> !fstab
[14:31] <noaXess> zoomflux: why not :)
[14:31] <abbie> I can't uninstall konqueror, but is there a way to not let it start for certain users?
[14:31] <zoomflux> uh?
[14:31] <zoomflux> owww... this is my first time really!
[14:32] <zoomflux> people here?
[14:32] <zoomflux> anyone?......... y isn't anybody talking
[14:33] <Guest25277> zoomflux: why you want uninstall konqueror?
[14:33] <zoomflux> i'm not asking that pls........
[14:33] <p_quarles> zoomflux: you have to be patient -- irc is kind of a slow medium
[14:33] <p_quarles> people sometimes respond an hour after you ask your question
[14:34] <abbie> Guest25277: i'm using glubble with firefox, if the kids know they can use a different browser it'll defeat the object
[14:34] <zoomflux> awww...........
[14:34] <Guest25277> zoomflux: doesnt work a simpel sudo aptitude remove konqueror?
[14:34] <zoomflux> what's a slow medium?
[14:35] <p_quarles> zoomflux: you don't expect comprehensive answers in five seconds, that's what it means
[14:35] <zoomflux> hey....... i'm not the one who's trying to remove konqueror.... why is there a red name of me in your messages
[14:35] <p_quarles> zoomflux: anyway, look into AppArmor
[14:35] <Guest25277> sorry..my mistake..
[14:35] <abbie> zoomflux: Guest25277's talking to me :)  sorry
[14:35] <zoomflux> ayt.. better
[14:36] <p_quarles> abbie: the AppArmor thing was aimed at you as well
[14:40] <runpain2> where all the color schemes are kept
[14:41] <runpain2> what folder or directory
[14:46] <pm124493> Hello. Quick question hopefully. I am running Ubuntu 8.10 and trying to install Kubuntu 8.10 in another partition. I have downloaded and burned the install Live CD on two different machines. I can't get Kubuntu to boot. It will boot on once machine not the one I want to install on. Has anyone heard of this hit miss problem. I suspect it is my DVD/CD Burner on the suspect machine. Though the Ubuntu Live CDs will boot fine. THX
[14:47] <abbie> p_quarles: ta, AppArmor looks interesting.
[14:49] <runpain2> where all the color schemes are kept
[14:49] <runpain2> what folder or directory
[14:50] <abbie> pm124493: I'm not very savvy, but can't you just install KDE on ubuntu and then choose what to use from login screen(gnome or KDE)?
[14:52] <pm124493> I could but in the past I have had problems with KDE impacting applications on GNOME. I would prefer to keep the two environments separate and clean. Personal preference.
[14:56] <Salze_> pm124493: Could you give some details about "it does not boot"?
[14:58] <pm124493> Sure. I have set the BIOS to boot from CDROM first. I have also tried F12 at boot to select the boot device from a list. The computer looks at the CDROM on boot and then skips the CDROM and goes to the first HDD and begins to boot GRUB.
[14:59] <pm124493> My second machine has VISTA and I can load the same CD into that PC and it will boot the KDE Live CD.
[15:00] <pm124493> I burned two CDs. One on Ubuntu and one on VISTA. Neither will boot in the Ubuntu PC.
[15:02] <pm124493> If I boot into Ubuntu and insert the CD, Ubuntu can see and mount the CD disk.
[15:02] <pm124493> All my PCs have SATA drives including the DVD/CD drives.
[15:03] <pm124493> SATA is enable and ACHI mode.
[15:03] <pm124493> Ooops. AHCI
[15:07] <david85> Hi pm124493
[15:07] <david85> try to install it with a USBStick
[15:07] <david85> here is the how to : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[15:10] <ubuntu_> estoi instalando kubuntu, la única duda es cuantos gb le doy a swap
[15:10] <runpain2> !color scheme
[15:11] <pm124493> Thanks. I tried that. I created a USBStick boot using Ubuntu and it would not work either. Really nice utility though.
[15:15] <david85> Ok, so if you have Vista... the new LiveCD allow you to install directly from Vista
[15:15] <pm124493> quantos memoria tiemes? Sorry my spanish is not so good.
[15:16] <pm124493> David85. Yes and No. I could, but I want to install on the Ubuntu machine. My Vista machine I leave just for Windows OSes.
[15:16] <dr_willis> Sounds like the bios needs to be set to boot the other media...
[15:17] <pm124493> dr_willis. I did that and also used the F12 option to specify boot device. Neither worked.
[15:17] <dr_willis> if one cd worked.. but the others did not = bad burn, or bad image file.  or similer issue.
[15:18] <Guest77220> I have to ubuntu machines under the same router, how can I transfer files using konqueror or something??
[15:18] <dr_willis> I use unetbootin to make bootable/install thumbdrives
[15:18] <dr_willis> Guest77220,  2 linux machines = use scp , is one easy way to transfer files.
[15:18] <Salze_> Since the CD boots in another computer it seems to be ok. Have to tried booting another CD (like Vista, eg) in the ubuntu computer?
[15:18] <dr_willis> I think konqueror/dolphin has a front end to ssh/scp with fish://
[15:19] <dr_willis> Could be some optical drives are having issues seeing the media properly..
[15:19] <Guest77220> I am trying fish://name_other_machine but doesnt work
[15:19] <pm124493> dr_willis. Ubuntu has a nice utility for creating USBStick boot drives. I tried that and it did not recognize that device either.
[15:19] <Guest77220> on dolphin
[15:19] <dr_willis> Guest77220,  i forget how to  use fish.   I tend to use ssh/scp manually
[15:20] <Guest77220> !scp
[15:20] <dr_willis> pm124493,  unetbooting does a similer task.   only not a persistant setup, but it dosent need to boot to ubuntu first either. :)
[15:21] <dr_willis> oops its 'unetbootin' :)
[15:21] <Salze_> pm124493: another option would be to clone your ubuntu installation, leave one as it is, and use the other to remove gnome and install kde.
[15:21] <Guest77220> the equivalent for ipconfig on linux ist??? (sorry but I am a windows user trying kubuntu)
[15:21] <Guest77220> I just need to know my ip
[15:21] <dr_willis> Ive not had many issues with gnome and kde conflicting.. untill 8.10 - some how they get the default file manager confused on each other. :(
[15:22] <dr_willis> Guest77220,  ifconfig
[15:22] <pm124493> dr_willis: If I use the Ubuntu utility to create a USB boot flash drive with the KDE Live CD image and reboot, it should work also, right?
[15:22] <runpain2> where do i find the directory where the color schemes are
[15:22] <dr_willis> pm124493,  should.
[15:22] <Guest77220> thanks dr_willis
[15:22] <dr_willis> pm124493,  i found the usb-boot thing feature in 8.10 works very well for me.
[15:24] <pm124493> I suspect the DVD/CD drive. Thanks all for your help. TTIF
[15:25] <Guest77220> If I do a fish://mylocalip it shout work isn't??
[15:25] <mitchell> help with gtk-qt-engine in kde4 please
[15:25] <Guest77220> *should
[15:25] <mitchell> i cant make gtk apps look like kde apps
[15:26] <mitchell> it seems gtk-qt-engine does not work!!! its kubuntu 8.10
[15:27] <mitchell> please someone who know how to do it work properly
[15:31] <runpain2> where is the boot screen at
[15:31] <Guest77220> well I can ping between without problem, but I can make a fish://username@ipothermachine  do I need activate something on linux to see the other machines??
[15:32] <Guest77220> *I cann't
[15:34] <Guest77220> if I try a ssh connection I get: connect to host: ip port 22: Connection refused
[15:34] <inelia> hi everybody
[15:34] <denter> selam
[15:34] <inelia> somebody know spanish?
[15:35] <Guest77220> yo
[15:35] <inelia> guest
[15:35] <Guest77220> un poco
[15:35] <inelia> ayudame
[15:35] <inelia> instale por primera vez el kubuntu
[15:35] <Guest77220> y
[15:35] <inelia> y solo me muestra 25 gb de disco duro, el resto no aparece y el disco es de 120 gb
[15:36] <Guest77220> pero tienes windows tambien?
[15:36] <inelia> no
[15:36] <inelia> solo kubuntu
[15:36] <Guest77220> y lo instalaste usando todo el disco? sin particiones?
[15:37] <inelia> me mostro que haria dos particiones
[15:37] <inelia> una de 25 y la otra del resto de los 120 gb
[15:37] <inelia> pero ahora que ingreso a dolphin
[15:37] <inelia> me muestra solo la extension de 25
[15:37] <inelia> gb
[15:37] <inelia> el resto no aparece
[15:38] <jussi01> !es
[15:39] <Guest77220> inalia: deja preguntar a los otros..
[15:40] <inelia> ok
[15:41] <Guest77220> inelia, a todo esto creaste 2 particiones, pero formateaaste la segunda??
[15:42] <jussi01> Guest77220: inelia, english only in here please
[15:43] <inelia> no, idon't
[15:43] <jussi01> inelia: type: /join #kubuntu-es
[15:45] <Guest77220> jussi01: ineala install kubuntu using the all hardisk (120), she did two partitions, one 25gb and the other partition using the rest.. her problem is she can only see the 25gb on dolphin, and no the second partition
[15:45] <Guest77220> jussi01: do you know what the problem is??
[15:46] <jussi01> Guest77220: I guess it isnt formatted/mounted?
[15:46] <Guest77220> I guess the same..
[15:46] <jussi01> oh and:
[15:46] <jussi01> !tab | Guest77220
[15:46] <Guest77220> is any tool to do his..?? you are the expert
[15:47] <Guest77220> thanks for the tip
[15:47] <jussi01> !info qtparted
[15:47] <Guest77220> inealia: entiendes?? usa qtparted
[15:48] <faileas> hmm
[15:48] <faileas> ~mondo
[15:48] <faileas> !mondo
[15:48] <faileas> thought so
[15:50] <Guest77220> jussi01: how can I connect two machines kubuntu using fish on dolphin?, I can ping between machines, but if I try a fish://othermachine, the connection is refuse
[15:51] <jussi01> !info mondo | faileas
[15:51] <Guest77220> jussi01: using ssh is the same problem
[15:51] <jussi01> Guest77220: install the package ssh on the machine you want to connect to, then sftp://ip.of.machine
[15:52] <Salze_> Guest77220: have you installed and starten openssh-server?
[15:52] <izzyb_> something strange happened to my system.  I installed gimp and ended up with dcop errors.  did an upgrade and rebooted and found kde was completely screwed up.  compiz stopped working, window decorations are gone and the kicker doesnt start automaticly
[15:52] <izzyb_> I removed all the compiz stuff, but I still dont get windows decorations or the kicker auto starting
[15:52] <Guest77220> Salze_: no..I didn't
[15:52] <Guest77220> !openssh-server
[15:53] <faileas> jussi01: i know what it is, i just can't get it, well mindi i suspect to work
[15:53] <izzyb_> it will start if I manually run kicker
[15:54] <izzyb_> I suspect something didnt install correctly but didnt notice any errors
[15:54] <izzyb_> but I wasnt watching for them
[15:54] <izzyb_> Im thinking I want to uninstall the desktop and reinstall it.  any idea how best to do that
[15:55] <faileas> Guest77220: you need openssh-server on the box you are transfering files to
[15:56] <dr_willis> Hmm.. anyone have vlc installed? If so RUn it and see if the icon for the program has a little Xmas hat for you also? :)
[15:56]  * dr_willis found that amuseing
[15:56]  * jussi01 reminds faileas openssh-sever is included in the metapackage ssh
[15:56] <jussi01> dr_willis: yeah... it has ;)
[15:56] <faileas> dr_willis:  aww
[15:57] <dr_willis> Isent that Cute.
[15:57] <dr_willis> Xmas easter eggs
[16:06] <sargas> e ai
[16:07] <sargas> algume do Brasil?/
[16:07] <faileas> !br
[16:07] <sargas> #ubuntu-br
[16:08] <faileas> its /join #ubuntu-br
[16:14]  * Nintendo is AFK, on another planet —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n—
[16:25] <brazila> oi
[16:25] <brazila> alguem
[16:25] <brazila> do brasil
[16:25] <genii> /j #ubuntu-br
[16:26] <brazila> anyone help me
[16:26] <brazila> to configure
[16:26] <brazila> my kurumin
[16:26] <brazila> i dont konow
[16:26] <brazila> install my driver
[16:26] <brazila> of
[16:26] <brazila> video
[16:27] <genii> brazila: Kurumin is not Ubuntu/Kubuntu
[16:27] <brazila> kkkkkkkk
[16:27] <brazila> i know
[16:27] <brazila> but there isn
[16:27] <genii> brazila: Try asking in channel #knoppix or so
[16:28] <sg> how do i sync my nokia e61i with evolution or Korganiser.
[16:28] <brazila> ok
[16:28] <brazila> im there
[16:28] <brazila> butr
[16:28] <brazila> anyone
[16:28] <sg> I need to sync the calendar entries as it would be very essential for my profession - advocate
[16:28] <brazila> knows
[16:28] <brazila> something
[16:28] <brazila> about it?
[16:29] <sg> can any one help me on this?
[16:29] <bazhang> brazila, not in #kubuntu
[16:29] <bazhang> brazila, maybe in #linux or #knoppix
[16:29] <brazila> :S
[16:30] <brazila> thanks
[16:30] <brazila> im new
[16:30] <brazila> look
[16:30] <brazila> i have one
[16:30] <brazila> question
[16:30] <brazila> maybe here
[16:30] <bazhang> brazila, dont hit enter key
[16:30] <brazila> can be anwerd
[16:30] <brazila> why??
[16:31] <jussi01> !enter
[16:31] <MerryChristmas> !space
[16:31] <bazhang> brazila, its offtopic to ask about kurumin here
[16:31] <MerryChristmas> yea, thas wha tI thouhgt
[16:31] <brazila> no i want to ask other thing now
[16:32] <bazhang> brazila, about kubuntu?
[16:32] <brazila> anyone knows this program called camaleao?
[16:33] <brazila> its a trojan its runnig into my SO windows and my AV databases
[16:33] <brazila> are lost
[16:33] <Pici> brazila: We don't support Windows here.  Try ##windows
[16:33] <faileas> brazila: windows is OT too
[16:33] <genii> brazila: You will find better answers in channel #knoppix or channel #kanotix    about Kurumin linux than in here
[16:34] <brazila> ok
[16:34] <brazila> thanks
[16:43] <rotti> hi, can someone tell me what skype to DL, and does in work on this distro?
[16:43] <bazhang> !skype
[16:44]  * genii hands out more Christmas cookies and coffee
[16:44] <rotti> I mean video on skype?
[16:44] <bazhang> skype has video?
[16:44] <genii> bazhang: Yup
[16:45] <bazhang> wow
[16:46] <genii> rotti: If your existing camera already works in Kubuntu with some program like cheese, then odds are Skype will also see and be able to use it
[16:47] <rotti> ok, and use skype for ubuntu...or disbain?
[16:47] <rotti> sorry ...i just loaded kubuntu.
[16:48] <genii> rotti: The ubuntu skype package is what works on kubuntu as well
[16:49] <rotti> ty, and have  nice xmas.
[16:59] <pawlab> hi all
[17:02] <genii> !hi
[17:03] <pawlab> :)
[17:17] <Nintendo>             case           .
[17:18] <Nintendo>             case           .
[17:18] <stdin> Nintendo: stop that
[17:18]  * Nintendo is AFK, on another planet. Gone now for:«1hr 4mins» (Pager is On, /ctcp Nintendo Page <message>) —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n—
[17:21] <dwknch> Hi, what to do when 8.10 freezes on a machine where 7.10 works without any problems? Thanks!
[18:03] <cllaudyu> heeeeeelp me
[18:04] <cllaudyu> one off you all can tell me how can i re-open plasma desktop ?
[18:04] <cllaudyu> i closed it after the install
[18:05] <cllaudyu> hmmm
[18:05] <cllaudyu> ...
[18:05] <cuznt> !plasma
[18:06] <cuznt> try alt+f2 type in plasma desktop
[18:06] <cllaudyu> i tried
[18:06] <cuznt> oh
[18:06] <cuznt> did you restart x?
[18:06] <cllaudyu> u know what i'm talkin about no?
[18:06] <cllaudyu> yes
[18:06] <cuznt> yes i do a bit
[18:07] <cllaudyu> it was first on the desktop near tomboy
[18:07] <cllaudyu> i closed tomboy and that but now i need that desktop again
[18:07] <cuznt> sorry, i am new too
[18:07] <dsnaike> kquitapp plasma && plasma  in terminal
[18:07] <cuznt> be paitient
[18:08] <cllaudyu> i am ...
[18:08] <cllaudyu> for hours...
[18:08] <cuznt> damn...
[18:08] <cuznt> it is frustratin
[18:08] <cllaudyu> look who need patiens...
 kquitapp plasma && plasma  in terminal  ** is that for claiudyu ?
[18:08] <cllaudyu> i know its frustating
[18:09] <dsnaike> yes
[18:09] <cuznt> try that claiudyu
[18:09] <cuznt> then
[18:09] <cuznt> there
[18:09] <cllaudyu> i tried
[18:09] <dsnaike> cllaudyu google is your friend
[18:10] <cllaudyu> google didn't helpd me
[18:10] <cllaudyu> i came form google
[18:10] <cllaudyu> cllaudyu@cllaudyu:~$ kquitapp plasma && plasma
[18:10] <cllaudyu> <unknown program name>(5290)/ checkComposite: Plasma has an argb visual 0x8adfdd8 29360129
[18:10] <cllaudyu> <unknown program name>(5290)/ checkComposite: Plasma is COMPOSITE-less on 0x8ad8c08
[18:10] <cllaudyu> QLayout: Attempting to add QLayout "" to Plasma::Dialog "", which already has alayout
[18:10] <cllaudyu> X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
[18:10] <cllaudyu>   Major opcode: 18 (X_ChangeProperty)
[18:10] <cllaudyu>   Resource id:  0x1c0005a
[18:10] <cllaudyu> cllaudyu@cllaudyu:~$ QObject: Do not delete object, 'unnamed', during its eventhandler!
[18:12] <cllaudyu> that didn't help
[18:12] <cllaudyu> i'l do a restart
[18:12] <jussi01> !paste | cllaudyu
[18:14] <dsnaike> ok cllaudyu in terminal mv .kde .kdebackup then restart xserver but before trying this what were you doing prior to the problem
[18:16] <bazhang> dsnaike, he quit
[18:17] <dsnaike> yes to restart
[18:27] <cuznt> hope he aint stuck
[18:33] <jimmy51_> hello, i just bought a 32GB SSD from newegg:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227372
[18:33] <jimmy51_> hello, i just bought a 32GB SSD from newegg:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227372   i've also bought a 500GB HDD.
[18:34] <jimmy51_> i'm planning on using the SSD for the OS, but the /home folder mounting the 500GB drive
[18:34] <jimmy51_> is this wise?  also.... should I setup a swap partition on the 500GB drive?  also... what FS should I use on the SSD?
[18:34] <jimmy51_> 20 questions today, i guess
[18:38] <jussi01> jimmy51_: thats sounds fine to me. I personally would go ext3 on both, but thats me.
[18:38] <jimmy51_> no swap on the SSD, right?
[18:40] <jimmy51_> thanks, by the way
[18:52] <demytry> salve
[18:53] <Pici> !it | demytry
[18:58] <juanantonio> Hello, demitry
[19:01] <jose> hi
[19:01] <jose> helloo
[19:09] <rogue780> I tried to install openoffice.org 3.0, but it kept crashing. I tried to uninstall it and downgrade back to 2.4, but now it looks as if there is no theme (just straight up X) and every word I'm typing here has a red squiggly under it so I must have inadvertantly uninstalled some dictionary program too (I was  fed up with adept so I did sudo apt-get remove openoffice* and then I was able to install the openoffice suite from ade
[19:09] <rogue780> pt) can anyone help me?
[19:13] <rogue780> I'm gonna try sudo aptitude reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[19:14] <rogue780> no joy
[19:18] <jtisme> rogue780, y not just move .kde to .kde.old and relogin
[19:18] <jtisme> and see it that cures some of the problems
[19:18] <rogue780> ?
[19:18] <ionut_> hye
[19:19] <rogue780> actually just solved it I think
[19:19] <jtisme> move your /home/USERNAME/.kde to  .kde.old and  CNTL + ALT + Backspace and login and see if some of your problems have disappeared
[19:19] <jtisme> good
[19:19] <ionut_> can anyody help me
[19:19] <jtisme> 4 u
[19:19] <ionut_> i need your help
[19:19] <ionut_> please
[19:19] <rogue780> sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-style-crystal openoffice.org-kde myspell-en-us
[19:19] <jtisme> !please
[19:19] <rogue780> what do you need?
[19:19] <ionut_> i have installed dekiwiki
[19:20] <ionut_> on my cumputer
[19:20] <ionut_> and now i want to uninstall it
[19:20] <ionut_> how can i do it ?
[19:20] <rogue780> depends on how you installed it
[19:20] <ionut_> i have installed it from shell
[19:20] <ionut_> with command apt-get install dekiwiki
[19:21] <ionut_> and now i don't know how to remove it
[19:21] <ionut_> can u tell me
[19:21] <rogue780> well...if you installed it using apt-get you can uninstall it with apt-get remove package name
[19:21] <livebrain> ppl i'm trying to connect to an wireless network but i keep getting this error : "disassociating by local choice reason=3"
[19:21] <livebrain> what does that mean ?
[19:21] <ionut_> okay
[19:21] <jtisme> apt-get remove  Package  or  dpkg --purge Package
[19:21] <ionut_> thank you
[19:22] <rogue780> brb
[19:22] <lerneaen_hydra> Ive got a funny problem with all opengl programs with mouse input where you're supposed to rotate the view with the mouse. I'm limited to a fixed rotation, somewhere between 90 and 180 degrees, it's as though the cursor 'hits' the edge of the window and doesn't wrap around. anyone recognize this?
[19:23] <rogue780> w00t
[19:23] <ionut_> how can i regenerate the source.list
[19:23] <rogue780> sudo apt-get update
[19:23] <jtisme> apt-get update
[19:23] <ionut_> i have canceled everything inside it
[19:23] <ionut_> it doesn't funcion
[19:23] <rogue780> y?
[19:24] <livebrain> can any1 help me ? i have no idea why i cant connect to a wireless network
[19:24] <rogue780> ionut_, you edited the file and manually deleted everything or you just unchecked the boxes?
[19:24] <livebrain> it should workd
[19:24] <ionut_> i know
[19:24] <DasKreech> !sourceomatic
[19:24] <jtisme> livebrain, i dont do wireless much did you google 4 that error msg
[19:24] <DasKreech> ionut_: ^^^^
[19:25] <DasKreech> !wifi
[19:25] <livebrain> yes jtisme
[19:25] <jtisme> livebrain, sorry i dont do much wireless
[19:25] <livebrain> wifi its simple: iwconfig "device" essid foo ; ifconfig "device" ip
[19:25] <livebrain> route add default gw gw_ip
[19:25] <ionut_> thank to everyone
[19:25] <livebrain> and thats it
[19:25] <killermach> how do I config the firewall on kubuntu 8.04?
[19:26] <DasKreech> !firewall
[19:26] <livebrain> but in ubuntu we need to be some kind of rocket scientist :(
[19:26] <jtisme> firewall  man ufw
[19:26] <ionut_> does anybody know a dock bar for ubuntu 8.04 ,simply to use
[19:27] <killermach> DasKreech: iptables -L .. shows to be empty
[19:27] <DasKreech> killermach: Is that what you want?
[19:27] <DasKreech> !dock
[19:27] <DasKreech> Bum :)
[19:27] <killermach> DasKreech: tis ok .. I don't think my issue is firewall
[19:28] <DasKreech> !info cooldock
[19:28] <DasKreech> hmm
[19:28] <killermach> I have a filesystem shared in nfs and smb but I cannot mount it from another machine.  odd thing is .. from the other machine I can use smbclient fine on the share
[19:29] <DasKreech> is it exported?
[19:30] <killermach> DasKreech: this is in /etc/exports
[19:30] <killermach>  /data/ *(rw,async,all_squash)
[19:34] <killermach> DasKreech:    I get mount error 13 = Permission denied
[19:34] <livebrain> killermach: check the logs on the server
[19:35] <killermach> livebrain: I cannot find anything useful.. do you know a particular log ?
[19:35] <killermach> in /var/log/samba  I have this lines
[19:36] <killermach> localhost (192.168.3.3) connect to service data initially as user killer (uid=1000, gid=1000) (pid 20918)
[19:36] <killermach> [2008/12/24 13:23:30, 1] smbd/service.c:close_cnum(1230)
[19:36] <killermach> localhost (192.168.3.3) closed connection to service data
[19:36] <killermach> not particularly enlightening
[19:36] <livebrain> i think that the "mount error" is from the nfs
[19:36] <livebrain> not from the samba
[19:37] <killermach> livebrain:  I'm unsuccesful figuring out where nfs logs to
[19:37] <livebrain> messages
[19:37] <livebrain> or syslog
[19:38] <jtisme> killermach,  y not remove the  nfs export and try mounting smb style only and see what happens
[19:38] <livebrain> and i think that you need to edit the hosts.allow
[19:38] <livebrain> also
[19:38] <rogue780> I hate samba
[19:38] <jtisme> in other words try nfs standalone and smb standalone etc. see if either works
[19:39] <jtisme> i thinks hosts.allow is only 4 nfs
[19:39] <livebrain> hes getting mount error"
[19:40] <livebrain> so i assume hes getting that while trying t mount an nfs share
[19:40] <livebrain> and not samba
[19:41] <livebrain> omfg... this "disassociating by local choice" is getting on my nerves...
[19:42] <RurouniJones> Has anyone had any trouble running virtualbox-ose on the latest kernel? 2.6.24-22-generic ?
[19:42] <RurouniJones> If I try and install the virtualbox-ose-modules it lists a whole bunch of them but none seem to match that kernel version number
[19:43] <RurouniJones> installed virtualbox-ose-modules-generic. It appeared to isntall but virtualbox still says the kernel drivers aren't installed
[19:45] <RurouniJones> [ANSWER] There is a timelag between the new kernel being released and Virtualbox drivers being released. If you are on 2.6.24-22 you can't use virtualbox at the moment
[19:45] <user___> Helloooooooooooo
[19:46] <rogue780> livebrain, pop a soma
[19:48] <user___> Helloooooo
[19:48] <livebrain> rogue780: what does that mean ?
[19:49] <rogue780> livebrain, have you never read, "A Brave New World"?
[19:49] <saharina> Nop...why?
[19:49] <livebrain> no, never
[19:49] <rogue780> well when you do you'll understand
[19:49] <rogue780> or you could wikipedia it
[19:56] <killermach> hosts.allow is empty
[19:57] <killermach> well aside from only having comments
[19:58] <killermach> livebrain: I was trying cifs first.. smbclient works fine from remote machine with same user credentials, but mount from fstab fails w/ error 13 Permission denied
[20:03] <ionut_> sorry
[20:03] <ionut_> how can i regenerate the source list
[20:03] <ionut_> source.list
[20:04] <DasKreech> ionut_: Open Adept
[20:04] <killermach> if I try cifs.. I get permission denied..
[20:05] <killermach> if I try nfs I get "incorrect option error
[20:05] <DasKreech> ionut_: sources. Click the buttons you need
[20:05] <killermach> nfs line in fstab is "192.168.3.5:/data /data nfs 0 0"
[20:06] <livebrain> oh well... i would like to keep ubuntu but not without wireless...
[20:06] <livebrain> back to slackware... at least its easy to set up an network
[20:06] <DasKreech> !wifi
[20:07] <killermach> ok.. added "rw" to fstab now I get access denied by server while mounting
[20:08] <cuznt> merry christmas etc...
[20:09] <ionut_> merry christmas
[20:09] <BluesKaj> Merry christmas to all !  :>)
[20:11] <livebrain> ubottu: according to those docs it should workd
[20:15] <douglas> is kdevelop4 built for kubuntu yet?
[20:27] <ionut_> anybody bere
[20:27] <ionut_> anybody here
[20:27] <ionut_> i need u
[20:27] <ionut_> i have a problem with my dekiwiki
[20:27] <ionut_> i have installed it but when i access the http://localhost the result is "http://localhost:8081/deki/@about"
[20:28] <ionut_> the result is "
[20:28] <ionut_> Site settings could not be loaded
[20:28] <ionut_> We were unable to locate the API to request site settings. Please see below for debugging information.
[20:28] <ionut_> HTTP Response Status Code: 0
[20:28] <ionut_> Trying API autodiscovery:
[20:28] <ionut_>     The API is currently located at http://localhost:8081/deki.
[20:28] <ionut_>     Trying http://localhost/@api/deki ... failed (HTTP Status: 503)
[20:28] <ionut_> what can i do
[20:29] <ionut_> no one here :(
[20:30] <DasKreech> It redirects from :80 ?
[20:30] <ionut_> yes
[20:30] <ionut_> this is the error "
[20:30] <ionut_> Site settings could not be loaded
[20:30] <ionut_> We were unable to locate the API to request site settings. Please see below for debugging information.
[20:30] <ionut_> HTTP Response Status Code: 0
[20:30] <ionut_> Trying API autodiscovery:
[20:30] <ionut_>     The API is currently located at http://localhost:8081/deki.
[20:30] <ionut_>     Trying http://localhost/@api/deki ... failed (HTTP Status: 503)
[20:30] <ionut_> what can i do
[20:30] <ionut_> i am exasperated
[20:30] <DasKreech> !info dekiwiki
[20:30] <DasKreech> Where did you get deki wki from ?
[20:31] <ionut_> i have installed it from shell with command sudo apt-get install dekiwiki
[20:31] <ionut_> i have configurated it
[20:31] <ionut_> and when i access the http://localhost
[20:31] <ionut_> it gives me that error
[20:33] <DasKreech> !info dekiwiki
[20:33] <DasKreech> !info dekiwiki hardy
[20:33] <DasKreech> ionut_: Where from ? it's not provided by Ubuntu
[20:34] <ionut_> yes,but first i've added in source.list the code : deb http://repo.mindtouch.com xUbuntu_8.04/
[20:34] <ionut_> and then it funcion
[20:37] <DasKreech> There are very few docs on this
[20:37] <ionut_> i can take anymore
[20:38] <DasKreech> ionut_: try http://localhost/config/index.php
[20:39] <ionut_> i have already done it
[20:39] <ionut_> look "
[20:39] <ionut_>  MindTouch Deki Wiki
[20:39] <ionut_> MindTouch Deki Installation
[20:39] <ionut_> Your MindTouch Deki site is already installed. Please delete this /config/ folder for security purposes.
[20:40] <DasKreech> did you do that?
[20:40] <ionut_> what?
[20:41] <ionut_> cancel /config /
[20:41] <ionut_> ?
[20:41] <ionut_> i don't know how !!!
[20:46] <ionut_> :(
[20:47] <DasKreech> ionut_: remove the directory
[20:47] <ionut_> how
[20:48] <DasKreech> Where is dekiwiki located ?
[20:50] <ionut_> here is "/var/www/dekiwiki/config
[20:51] <nukem2525> I am running kubuntu 8.04 x86_64, Since mplayer is not in the repository I compiled my own but now everything that depends on fails to install cause apt doesn know it exists
[20:51] <nukem2525> is there a way to alert apt its there?
[20:51] <crimsun> nukem2525: what do you mean mplayer is not in the repository?
[20:51] <DasKreech> ionut_: remove that
[20:51] <crimsun> nukem2525: it clearly is:
[20:51] <crimsun>    mplayer | 2:1.0~rc2-0ubuntu13 | hardy/multiverse | source, amd64, i386
[20:51] <DasKreech> nukem2525: checkinstall
[20:52] <nukem2525> it tells me package not found
[20:52] <nukem2525> and i tried checkinstall
[20:52] <DasKreech> nukem2525: So you installed it as a deb?
[20:52] <crimsun> nukem2525: did you enable the multiverse repository?
[20:53] <nukem2525> multiverse is enabled and I did install it as a deb
[20:53] <DasKreech> crimsun: can I poke the bot about none x86 repos ?
[20:54] <crimsun> DasKreech: no idea, i don't control the bots
[20:54] <nukem2525> so if the package exists in the repository why can't apt find it?
[20:56] <nukem2525> I did "apt-cache search mplayer" and it says it finds a version in the medibuntu repository, is that causing a conflict?
[20:56] <medicus> this is a chat? i just opened this konversation and it came here.
[20:56] <DasKreech> medicus: yes
[20:56] <DasKreech> For support
[20:56] <medicus> sweet
[20:56] <DasKreech> read the topic
[20:56] <medicus> i just installed kubuntu
[20:56] <DasKreech>  if you want to chat about non support use the Offtopic room
[20:56] <DasKreech> !ot
[20:57] <ionut_> DasKreech
[20:57] <ionut_> can u help me
[20:57] <ionut_> how can i delete the /configure/ folder
[20:57] <ionut_> is situated here /var/www/dekiwiki/config
[20:57] <DasKreech> either rm -rf or mv the /var/www/dekiwiki/config directory
[20:58] <ionut_> ok
[20:58] <ionut_> thx
[20:59] <asobi> how do i extract 7zip files?
[21:00] <nukem2525> ok so I disabled the medibuntu repositories from my list and it installed just fine
[21:01] <nukem2525> must be a conflict
[21:01] <DasKreech> install 7zip ?
[21:02] <asobi> adept tells me it's installed
[21:04] <DasKreech> there you go :)
[21:04] <asobi> but it doesn't work
[21:05] <DasKreech> asobi: What are you doing?
[21:05] <asobi> right click, extract
[21:05] <DasKreech> Hmm
[21:05] <DasKreech> try from the command line perhaps?
[21:06] <DasKreech> This is in dolphin ?
[21:06] <asobi> it says it's not an archive
[21:07] <DasKreech> asobi: From the command line?
[21:07] <asobi> yea
[21:07] <asobi> neither zip or rar works
[21:07] <DasKreech> They would not work
[21:08] <DasKreech>  you need p7zip
[21:08] <DasKreech> !info p7zip
[21:10] <asobi> i have it
[21:10] <asobi> according to adept
[21:10] <asobi> i have p7zip-full
[21:10] <DasKreech> !info p7zip-full
[21:11] <DasKreech> I think yo can do like 7z x file.7z
[21:11] <DasKreech> to extract it I  could be wrong :)
[21:13] <asobi> yes
[21:13] <asobi> thanks
[21:13] <DasKreech> asobi: worked ?
[21:14] <asobi> yes ^^
[21:16] <DasKreech> asobi: Great. hopefully Ark will work better with it soon
[21:23] <CoJaBo-Dell> lol why did my EeePC just join here? o_O
[21:24] <DasKreech> CoJaBo-Dell: Skynet just came online
[21:25] <CoJaBo-Dell> lol its weird seing a computer you're not on join unexpectedly
[21:28] <Bandit_> Hey... anyone here willing to give me some help?
[21:28] <CoJaBo-Dell> Ask
[21:28] <Bandit_> ok well here goes...
[21:29] <Bandit_> I installed Kubuntu 8.10 last night (dual boot with windows xp, xp with more disk space than kubuntu)
[21:29] <Bandit_> all worked well for about 5 minutes
[21:30] <Bandit_> then I was just playing around and changed some window effects
[21:30] <Bandit_> as I clicked apply the whole screen went white
[21:31] <Bandit_> and stayed like that for 5 minutes till it went black
[21:31] <Bandit_> it changes if I do anything like Ctrl-alt-delete
[21:31] <Bandit_> and I can log off through that
[21:31] <Bandit_> log on screen is normal
[21:31] <Bandit_> but when I log on it's all screwed again
[21:32] <Bandit_> I've tried everything I know
[21:32] <CoJaBo-Dell> Are you able to get to a place to run updates?
[21:32] <dex> irc.freenode.org
[21:32] <jussi01> !enter
[21:32] <Bandit_> not on that user
[21:32] <Bandit_> it's my first linux distro so I dont know my way around blind
[21:32] <jussi01> Bandit_: are you at all commnad line aware?
[21:32] <Bandit_> but without a screen?
[21:33] <CoJaBo-Dell> Bandit_: You probably need to install updated video drivers, if its too messed up to do it in GUI, I'm sure someone here can help you do it by command line.
[21:33] <Bandit_> anyone? :)
[21:33] <jussi01> Bandit_: if you remove the .kde for that user, then it will reset the settings
[21:33] <Bandit_> how do I do that and wont that screw it up?
[21:33] <DasKreech> Bandit_: you can login through terminal ?
[21:34] <jussi01> Bandit_: ctrl+alt+f1 will drop you to a command prompt
[21:34] <Bandit_> probably I dont think I've tried yet though
[21:34] <Bandit_> in kubuntu?
[21:34] <jussi01> from the login screen
[21:34] <Bandit_> ok
[21:34] <Bandit_> then...?
[21:34] <DasKreech> Bandit_: Welcome to Linux! :)
[21:35] <Bandit_> haha... thanks :)
[21:35] <jussi01> Bandit_: then login as the affected user, and type: rm -rf .kde
[21:35] <DasKreech> Bandit_: I'll assume you are not on Linux now?
[21:35] <Bandit_> no.. the windows on the same box
[21:35] <jussi01> Bandit_: that will reset allthe settings for that user
[21:35] <Bandit_> thank you
[21:35] <Bandit_> then I should update video drivers?
[21:35] <DasKreech> jussi01: bad option
[21:36] <DasKreech> Bandit_: This is the machine that Linux is on ?
[21:36] <Bandit_> yes
[21:36] <TimS> BBC iPlayer for linux is out :D
[21:36] <ubuntu_driss> hi every one
[21:38] <DasKreech> Bandit_: ok when it comes up press alt+ctrl+F1 and you will have a terminal. login and type mv ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc ~/kwinrc.bkup then type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart and login normally
[21:38] <Bandit_> that will do?
[21:39] <DasKreech> Bandit_: Yes it will and you have a backup of the file you can go through to see what changes were made (hint it's one line) :)
[21:39] <DasKreech> Welcome to Linux :)
[21:40] <DasKreech> Bandit_: another hint is that you can install irssi and then you can get help here even if you break all of your GUI
[21:40] <hang3r> is there a common problem with knetworkmanager that would cause it to randomly stop working
[21:40] <hang3r> even setting a static address does nothing
[21:40] <DasKreech> hang3r: Yes
[21:41] <kniolet> other than it generally sucks? (j/k... mostly)
[21:41] <Bandit_> so what was wrong with the rm -rf .kde?
[21:41] <DasKreech> hang3r: It can't do static addresses in 8.10
[21:41] <hang3r> :(
[21:41] <DasKreech> Bandit_: It would work this is just safer and allows you to see what went wrong
[21:41] <Bandit_> so when I've typed that I...?
[21:41] <hang3r> ok, so can you link me to some info on the problem
[21:41] <Bandit_> log in again?
[21:42] <DasKreech> Bandit_: Yes typein the sudo command I just gave you
[21:42] <Bandit_> yep
[21:42] <DasKreech> it will ask you for a password. Which is the password you used to login
[21:42] <Bandit_> ok
[21:42] <DasKreech> That will restart the GUI and present you with a login screen
[21:42] <Bandit_> then I log in again?
[21:42] <DasKreech> Yes
[21:43] <Bandit_> what happens if I get the same problem with the window effects?
[21:43] <Bandit_> if I try it again?
[21:43] <hang3r> DasKreech, DHCP will not work either
[21:43] <DasKreech> hang3r: that's bad. What happens if you do sudo dhclient from the command line ?
[21:43] <DasKreech> Bandit_: As in turn it on again ?
[21:44] <Bandit_> no... it started after I applied some window effects.
[21:44] <Bandit_> can't that just happen again?
[21:44] <hang3r> it sits there trying to get an address
[21:44] <hang3r> actually
[21:44] <hang3r> well that would do it, dhcp is disabled on my router :D
[21:45] <DasKreech> Bandit_: Ah maybe :) Well come back here when you get it working. I can show you how to take those out of the file if you like or you can just reset it as I just showed you
[21:45] <nukem2525> does anyone know of a program that allows you to catalogue your movie collection, preferably something that runs on a LAMP server?
[21:45] <DasKreech> hang3r: That's what i was going to tell you next
[21:45] <Bandit_> someone said it was my video drivers... is that possible?
[21:45] <DasKreech> nukem2525: Yes. Don't recall what the name is
[21:47] <Bandit_> ok... Ill be back in a moment
[21:47] <Bandit_> hopefully on linux ;)
[21:47] <Bandit_> brb
[21:50] <DasKreech> !info gcstar
[21:50] <DasKreech> !info flight-of-the-amazon-queen
[21:50] <DasKreech> Sweet :)
[21:51] <nosrednaekim> whats up DasKreech
[21:51] <DasKreech> nosrednaekim: hey hey!
[21:52] <nosrednaekim> yeah I haven't been around in a while... school and all that
[21:52] <DasKreech> hooray for snow then!!
[21:53] <nosrednaekim> winter break :P
[21:53] <DasKreech> :-)
[22:03] <bandit_> Hello?
[22:03] <bandit_> yay it worked
[22:03] <DasKreech> bandit_: :-)
[22:04] <bandit_> but now I dont want to try window effects...
[22:04] <DasKreech> ok I can give you some more help in case this happens in future if you like
[22:04] <bandit_> ok thanks
[22:04] <DasKreech> bandit_: No worries try as much as you like. You may want to iron out your drivers first
[22:04] <DasKreech> bandit_: install irssi
[22:04] <bandit_> you think I should update my video driver?
[22:05] <bandit_> ok
[22:06] <DasKreech> let me know when that installs
[22:07] <bandit_> ok um... Im really not used to linux I know it sound lame but... I downloaded the .gz...
[22:07] <bandit_> into home/bandit
[22:07] <DasKreech> bandit_: Ha ha :-)
[22:07] <bandit_> but now?
[22:07] <DasKreech> bandit_: Want the GUI way or the command line way ?
[22:08] <bandit_> either... whatever you think is best
[22:11] <DasKreech> bandit_: ok type sudo apt-get install irssi in the terminal
[22:12] <bandit_> done
[22:12] <bandit_> and the pass bit
[22:12] <DasKreech> bandit_: ok cool now type irssi -c irc.freenode.net
[22:13] <DasKreech> bandit_: When that calms down type /join #kubuntu
[22:13] <bandit_> it's a terminal irc client?
[22:14] <bandit__> hello me
[22:14] <bandit__> ok... what was that in aid of?
[22:14] <DasKreech> bandit__: ok now listen to me before you do anything
[22:14] <bandit_> ok
[22:14] <DasKreech> Which of you should I talk to? :)
[22:15] <bandit_> er... this one ;)
[22:15] <DasKreech> bandit__: You can type /quit to logout
[22:15] <bandit_> ok
[22:15]  * DasKreech waves at bandit__
[22:15] <DasKreech> ok bandit_ Linux is set up so that it runs as if there are 7 computers on all the time
[22:16] <bandit_> confusin but ok :)
[22:16] <DasKreech> you have independent terminals which don't really affect each other
[22:16] <bandit_> right
[22:16] <DasKreech> The GUI you are using now is just one of them
[22:16] <bandit_> ok
[22:16] <DasKreech> If it breaks you can jump to another terminal/computer and login and use it normally
[22:16] <bandit_> ok... handy
[22:16] <DasKreech> The GUI is alt+ctrl+F7
[22:17] <bandit_> want me to try that?
[22:17] <DasKreech> You can try alt+ctrl+F1 to F6 and see the other
[22:17] <DasKreech> alt+Ctrl+F7 gets you back here
[22:17] <DasKreech> Go!
[22:17] <bandit_> well that was fun
[22:18] <DasKreech> Cool So if you break your GUI again You can jump to another terminal and fix it right there
[22:18] <bandit_> so right now this is the 7th gui?
[22:18] <DasKreech> no 7th terminal
[22:18] <DasKreech> 1st GUI
[22:18] <bandit_> ok right
[22:18] <DasKreech> If you don't know how to fix something go to two terminals
[22:19] <DasKreech> In one login to irssi and come here to get help
[22:19] <DasKreech> In the other you can do commands etc and fix things
[22:19] <bandit_> ok right... that makes a lot of sence
[22:19] <bandit_> sense
[22:19] <Guest20723> !kopete
[22:19] <DasKreech> yep :-)You can accomplish most anything from the terminal so no need to get scared of breaking effects :)
[22:20] <kurumin> asdlkmc
[22:20] <bandit_> right so should I try an effect now?
[22:20] <DasKreech> On the other hand why break things if you can get help :) What effect did you turn on that broke your system ?
[22:20] <bandit_> er... I can't remember... it just happened when I clicked apply
[22:20] <bandit_> I think it might have been explosion
[22:21] <bandit_> plus others
[22:26] <bandit_> also... is there anyway to transfer files from my windows to linux (it's dual booted)
[22:27] <jussi01> bandit_: the drive is not listed in dolphin?
[22:28] <Guest20723> using kopete every time I send a message (msn account) the chat windows close automatically and if I get messages they dont display normal, on the chat window is a "next" button to see the next message, I dont know how I did enable this feature, but I cann't disable, I even reinstall the software but my problem is still there, any idea??
[22:29] <bandit_> jussi01: Ill check now but I don't think so (looked before)
[22:30] <bandit_> thanks man
[22:30] <bandit_> didn't see that :)
[22:30] <jussi01> :)
[22:31] <bandit_> now I can get my music :)
[22:33] <DasKreech> bandit_: :)
[22:34] <DasKreech> Guest20723: Turn off single messages in config
[22:34] <DasKreech> Bah
[22:38] <rjune__> I have hardy running kde 3.5, audiocd:/ does not have mp3 as an option, what do I need to install to rip to mp3
[22:38] <DasKreech> lame
[22:39] <rjune__> install lame, and audiocd:// will pick up on it automagically?
[22:39] <DasKreech> That's the idea
[22:41] <bandit_> anyone here use amarok?
[22:41] <nosrednaekim> bandit_: yes
[22:41] <bandit_> I know it's a strange question for here but... is there a mini player?
[22:41] <Reformer81> In Amarok, you used to be able to right-click a track in the playlist and "Organize" the file.  Why can't this be done in Amarok 2?
[22:42] <DasKreech> bandit_: There is for amarok 1 there isn't for amarok 2
[22:42] <bandit_> damn
[22:42] <bandit_> never mind then
[22:42] <DasKreech> Reformer81: Because Amarok 2 is a new player
[22:42] <Reformer81> With fewer features?  That doesn't make sense lol
[22:42] <DasKreech> Reformer81: Why doesn't it?
[22:42] <nosrednaekim> bandit_: you should have amarok 1 though....
[22:42] <Reformer81> So there's no way to organize a music collection anymore?
[22:42] <DasKreech> They wrote a new application from scratch
[22:43] <CoJaBo-Dell> Does KDE 4 have auto-hide taskbar yet?
[22:43] <DasKreech> they can't be expected to get all of 4 years of coding into 14 months
[22:43] <DasKreech> CoJaBo-Dell: Yes
[22:43] <Reformer81> DasKreech: Well, I always assumed new versions would ADD features, not remove them.  Especially semi-essential features like that Organize one.
[22:43] <CoJaBo-Dell> DasKreech: How do I enable it?
[22:43] <DasKreech> Reformer81: I'm not saying it's fully gone :) I don't know I haven't played with Amarok 2 yet you can ask in #amarok
[22:43] <Reformer81> So sarcasm aside... there is no way to do ith with Amarok 2?
[22:43] <Reformer81> ok
[22:44] <DasKreech> CoJaBo-Dell: Cashew -> more settings -> auto hide
[22:44] <nosrednaekim> DasKreech: thats only 4.2 IIRC
[22:44] <DasKreech> It is
[22:44] <DasKreech> but I have it right here :-)
[22:44]  * DasKreech pets his smooth smooth beta packages
[22:44] <CoJaBo-Dell> DasKreech: Cashew?
[22:45] <nosrednaekim> as do I.... but does he?
[22:45] <DasKreech> CoJaBo-Dell: The little swirly thing at the end of the panel
[22:45] <nosrednaekim> CoJaBo-Dell: on the right hand side of the panel....
[22:45] <CoJaBo-Dell> O is that what that is? lol
[22:46] <DasKreech> CoJaBo-Dell: No it's not but someone called it that as a joke and we are all still laughing at it. So it's now the cashew :)
[22:46] <CoJaBo-Dell> lol
[22:46] <DasKreech> CoJaBo-Dell: This is for the KDE 4.2 packages btw
[22:47]  * CoJaBo-Dell called it a footlike-thing when explianing how to add widgets to someone lol
[22:48] <CoJaBo-Dell> Hm, how do I find what KDE I'm running?
[22:48] <DasKreech> CoJaBo-Dell: call it what you want as long as they get the point
[22:48] <DasKreech> Help -> about KDE in something that's not konversation
[22:48] <nosrednaekim> what are they going to do about an IRC client in Jaunty? there really isn't a good kde4 one
[22:48] <CoJaBo-Dell> What is it supposed to be called? Or is it just the unnamed-widgets-button-thing? lol
[22:49] <HappySmileMan> nosrednaekim: Wait for Konversation KDE4 port
[22:49] <DasKreech> nosrednaekim: hopefully konversation. The hope is to have no Qt3 on the Disc
[22:49] <HappySmileMan> It's in progress but so far nothing usuable
[22:49] <Qrawl> when is that
[22:49] <DasKreech> CoJaBo-Dell: I've forgotten now HA HA HA
[22:49] <Qrawl> eta on Konversation 4
[22:50] <nosrednaekim> I guess they could use quassel, it works pretty well
[22:50] <CoJaBo-Dell> DasKreech: lol. Ok, is KDE 4.2 stable yet?
[22:50] <HappySmileMan> Stable planned for next month
[22:50] <DasKreech> CoJaBo-Dell: For some definition of stable
[22:50] <HappySmileMan> 2nd beta now, but IMO it's just as stable as 4.1
[22:50] <DasKreech> Qrawl: Speak to the authour
[22:51] <nosrednaekim> 4.2 is fairly stable ATM, only had one plasma crash
[22:51] <nosrednaekim> in the past week of using it
[22:51] <Qrawl> do I have 4.2 beta
[22:51] <HappySmileMan> Yeah don't think they'll have it ready any time soon, the official response seems to be "It's in progress, no schedule so far"
[22:51] <Qrawl> or do I have to do something special
[22:51] <OxDeadC0de> I've had plasma in 4.2 crash 4-5 times so far since i installed it yesterday
[22:51] <HappySmileMan> Qrawl: You probably don't if you don't recall upgrading, there's instructions on kubuntu.org
[22:51] <Qrawl> HappySmileMan, ok ty
[22:52] <Reformer81> Does anyone know if it is possible to "Copy [a] track to collection" in Amarok 2? This was simple in Amarok 1, but seems missing in 2.0.
[22:52] <OxDeadC0de> but they were all due to the comic plasmoid... which stopped crashing and now works
[22:52] <HappySmileMan> I've had plasma crashes when I try add comic book widget
[22:52] <CoJaBo-Dell> My EeePC had a plasma crash about an hour ago lol
[22:52] <DasKreech> CoJaBo-Dell: Recovered nicely?
[22:52] <HappySmileMan> Other than that no crashes but KRunner stops working if I launch Ktorrent from it?
[22:52] <DasKreech> HappySmileMan: Seriously?
[22:52] <nosrednaekim> Reformer81: might be better to ask in #amarok
[22:53] <pg_> Hi
[22:53] <pg_> !list
[22:53] <OxDeadC0de> happysmileman i got it to stop crashing when loading a comic by uninstalling them all, then reinstalling them all.. selecting one, then plasma crashed.. then it saved the comic I wanted (every other crash it never saved the comic I picked), then it worked from then on out..
[22:53] <DasKreech> all the usual amarok junkies from here are out
[22:53] <CoJaBo-Dell> DasKreech: Its stuck so only the window onscreen at the time is accessable lol
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> hmm, actually maybe i'm not having any plasma crashes cause I got rid of all the applets lol
[22:54] <OxDeadC0de> and the upgrade for me to 4.2 wasn't smooth when adding the kde-members repo
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> CoJaBo-Dell: alt+tab doesn't do anything?
[22:54] <Reformer81> nosrednaekim: I have been... I've never seen anyone in there
[22:54] <Reformer81> :)
[22:54] <Reformer81> nosrednaekim: Well, lots of people there, but no one actually pays attention.
[22:54] <OxDeadC0de> it failed halfway through, had to manually install them before killing 4.1.3 to restart in 4.2, which left a few packages missing
[22:54] <HappySmileMan> DasKreech: Yes seriously
[22:55] <DasKreech> Reformer81: You have to consider the time of year as well
[22:55] <OxDeadC0de> still finding missing ones... so far screensavers and plasmoids were both missing (resolved easily)
[22:55] <Reformer81> DasKreech: AH... true
[22:56] <DasKreech> HappySmileMan: can you run krunner from the command line and see if it throws an error?
[22:56] <DasKreech> CoJaBo-Dell: open konsole and type kwin &
[22:56] <HappySmileMan> Yeha hold on, I'll run Ktorrent now first
[22:56] <OxDeadC0de> but it was worth it.. 4.2 is so much nicer from a display perspective and a development perspective
[22:56] <DasKreech> CoJaBo-Dell: or if alt+F2 works then just type kwin there
[22:57] <DasKreech> OxDeadC0de: Yeah if it crashed twice a day I'd still be happy
[22:57] <OxDeadC0de> oh, also, I saw a vid of aesigo 's that showed different plasmoids running on different virtual desktops with different wallpapers on each, anyone know how he did that?
[22:57] <HappySmileMan> <unknown program name>(6217)/: Communication problem with  "krunner" , it probably crashed.
[22:57] <HappySmileMan> Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." "
[22:58] <HappySmileMan> That's if I run krunner from command line after it fails
[22:58] <HappySmileMan> I can run other stuff in it, but once I run ktorrent (and maybe others) it stops working
[22:58] <DasKreech> OxDeadC0de: Click on the cashew in the top right corner and zoom out
[22:58] <CoJaBo-Dell> DasKreech: Does that still apply if using compiz?
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> HappySmileMan: if you run it from a terminal.... it should stop working once you close the terminal
[22:59] <DasKreech> CoJaBo-Dell: ha ha no then type compiz --replace
[22:59] <OxDeadC0de> hmm I zommed out, now things just look weird
[22:59] <DasKreech> OxDeadC0de: yo ushould hve an add activity button
[22:59] <DasKreech> click that
[22:59] <HappySmileMan> I know nosrednaekim, I mean it runs as normal when I log in (not run from terminal) and then stops when I run ktorrent
[23:00] <nosrednaekim> HappySmileMan: oh
[23:00] <HappySmileMan> And if I run it in terminal and wait it crashes with that message
[23:00] <DasKreech> Then click the zoom magnifying button under itchange what ever you like
[23:00] <nosrednaekim> HappySmileMan: sounds to me like Ktorrent didn't send back a signal that it had successfully started.
[23:01] <HappySmileMan> Probably the case, it and Kate used to give the same error when launched from Dolphin, I think Kate fixed that recently
[23:01] <OxDeadC0de> hmm DasKreech, any easier way to switch between "activity's"? in the vid it looked like he was using the dashboard kwin plugin to switch
[23:02] <DasKreech> You can tie actvites to desktops I think
[23:02] <DasKreech> That might be post Beta 2
[23:02] <nosrednaekim> OxDeadC0de: there is a plasmoid to do it iirc
[23:02] <nosrednaekim> in beta2
[23:02] <OxDeadC0de> ahh, cause now that would be cool....
[23:03] <DasKreech> There are shortcut keys as well
[23:03] <CoJaBo-Dell> DasKreech: Kives a bunch of errors aboutr not being able to connect to the display, then falls back to kwin which also fails o_O
[23:03] <CoJaBo-Dell> *gives
[23:04] <DasKreech> CoJaBo-Dell: Maybe you broke something
[23:04] <OxDeadC0de> well, the plasmoid is alright, no tying into virtual desktop, but close enough for now
[23:05] <CoJaBo-Dell> Probably something else broke as well lol
[23:05] <DasKreech> :-) So no windows can move?
[23:05] <Reformer81> How do I determine what version of KDE I have installed?  (I actually use Gnome, but have several KDE apps installed)
[23:06] <DasKreech> Reformer81: open one help -> about KDe
[23:06] <DasKreech> Probably don't want to use Konversation for it
[23:06] <DasKreech> Amarok 2 would be a good candidate
[23:06] <OxDeadC0de> hmm now I can't quite figure out how to add a panel to only one activity
[23:06] <Reformer81> DasKreech: Gotcha, thank you.
[23:08] <DasKreech> OxDeadC0de: Oooh good call
[23:08] <DasKreech> #plasma ?
[23:10] <OxDeadC0de> they say no, have to hack into kwin panels to do it
[23:19] <prometheus77> you guys messed up my pc again. i am trying to play a file in kaffine and it does a codec install message, and then "error codec is already installed"
[23:19] <prometheus77> and fails to play
[23:20] <nosrednaekim> heh.... honestly to get any help with that intro?
[23:20] <Dragnslcr> Just that specific file, or all files of the same type?
[23:21] <OxDeadC0de> well the activity switcher plasmoid is fail
[23:22] <prometheus77> strange, the kaffine error only works with my beast wars avi
[23:22] <prometheus77> the others seem 2 work
[23:22] <OxDeadC0de> works sometimes.. but then I added a new activity via show dashboard mode, and it stopped switching activities.. tho I can switch them with zoom out etc
[23:23] <Dragnslcr> prometheus77- I've seen that error a few times, and I'm pretty sure it's the file that's broken, not your player
[23:26] <mn> doedoes amarok come with kubuntu?
[23:26] <mn> does*
[23:27] <CoJaBo-Dell> mn: Looks like it does.
[23:27] <prometheus77> ok Dragnslcr let me check
[23:27] <mn> ok ty
[23:28] <OxDeadC0de> they say in #plasma that activities can be tied into virtual desktops, said to check aseigo's blog (quick google search away, aseigo kde blog)
[23:28] <Qrawl> 4.2 is a big change
[23:28] <Qrawl> I just updated
[23:28] <OxDeadC0de> I'm searching, in case anyone wants to help :P
[23:28] <nosrednaekim> asiego's blog is a very entertaing read
[23:29] <nosrednaekim> yeah... its asiego.blogsport.com
[23:29] <Qrawl> url
[23:29] <nosrednaekim> :P
[23:29] <Qrawl> ty
[23:29] <nosrednaekim> I think
[23:29] <Qrawl> did you really type that fast
[23:30] <OxDeadC0de> blogspot.com not blogsport ;)
[23:31] <nosrednaekim> lol
[23:31]  * nosrednaekim curses his aspire one keyboard
[23:31] <HappySmileMan> Sorry, the blog you were looking for does not exist. However, the name asiego is available to register!
[23:31] <HappySmileMan> http://asiego.blogspot.com/
[23:31] <OxDeadC0de> eigo
[23:31] <nosrednaekim> uhh flip the ei and i
[23:32] <nosrednaekim> *e and i
[23:32] <Qrawl> http://aseigo.blogspot.com/
[23:36] <DasKreech> He is entertaining when he's not ranting and when he is then his comments are entertaining
[23:37] <nosrednaekim> true :)
[23:37] <OxDeadC0de> he also puts a lot of useful info there, I ran acrossed it once or twice searching for various software things...
[23:38] <OxDeadC0de> tho it doesn't report high enough in google sometimes ><
[23:40] <Qrawl> 4.2 is a huge change from 4.1
[23:40] <OxDeadC0de> ya, overall, I like it much better
[23:41] <epimeth> speaking of 4.2 ... what the heck is the "Internal Extender Container" Widget?  Also, how do I add apps to the "quicklaunch" widget?
[23:41] <OxDeadC0de> still missing a lot tho
[23:41] <OxDeadC0de> i think adding apps to quicklaunch is right click/add icon
[23:41] <Qrawl> idk. I just installed it
[23:42] <nosrednaekim> Internal extender has something to do with extending containers on request I think
[23:42] <OxDeadC0de> extending containers?
[23:42] <epimeth> lol
[23:42] <epimeth> gee thanks
[23:42] <epimeth> what does that *mean* ?
[23:42] <epimeth> :-p
[23:44] <nosrednaekim> I actually have no concrete idea :P
[23:44] <OxDeadC0de> epimeth I put one on my desktop, did nothing
[23:44] <OxDeadC0de> then I dropped it on my panel
[23:44] <OxDeadC0de> all of a sudden everything got really tiny like there are now 2 rows on the panel
[23:45] <aviz> does naybody know if i can use XDccing.com to download files like MIRC in konversation
[23:45] <OxDeadC0de> but I can't move any icons down to the new row... :P
[23:47] <aviz> hey does anybody know if i can download files in konversation using CDCCING.com like MIRC
[23:55] <epimeth> OxDeadC0de: yea, I noticed that too... so nobody knows what its actually for?
[23:55] <bandit_> DasKreech: Spent all this time updating drivers and installing updates... everything works fine now.
[23:57] <mn> How may one change their username and password?  Does this keep the permissions registered to the same account, even though the account name is different?
[23:57] <OxDeadC0de> epimeth you can ask in #plasma, maybe get an  answer
[23:59] <epimeth> meh
[23:59] <epimeth> not that important
[23:59] <epimeth> anybody know where the .desktop files for the K-menu are kept?