| LaserJock | any compiz types around? | 03:50 |
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| bluesmoke | LaserJock: why? | 04:24 |
| LaserJock | I'm wondering if there are any good pointers on OpenGL apps behaving badly with compiz | 04:28 |
| LaserJock | or rather, how to correct screen artifacts in OpenGL apps | 04:29 |
| bluesmoke | LaserJock: Redirected Direct Rendering | 04:36 |
| bluesmoke | Unfortunately we don't actually have that yet | 04:36 |
| LaserJock | bluesmoke: so is that a compiz thing or at the app level? | 04:38 |
| bluesmoke | That's a driver thing | 04:38 |
| LaserJock | ah | 04:38 |
| racarr | Assosciated buzzwords include DRI2. | 04:43 |
| bluesmoke | Doesn't implementing DRI2 get RDR for free? | 04:46 |
| racarr | Yes. | 04:58 |
| racarr | bluesmoke: ^ | 04:58 |
| racarr | It's basically the point of DRI2 | 04:58 |
| racarr | anyway. It works on intel upstream mostly at this point. and is progressing on ATI... | 04:59 |
| racarr | but the i915_drm module changes aren't landing until 2.6.28, so it wont be in Jaunty. | 04:59 |
| bluesmoke | hmm, i thought we had 2.6.26 in hardy | 05:03 |
| bluesmoke | and we usually jump two between releases | 05:03 |
| racarr | The timing just doesn't work out this time | 05:03 |
| ebroder | Hardy is 2.6.24, Intrepid is 2.6.27 | 05:03 |
| bluesmoke | err, yeah, intrepid | 05:03 |
| bluesmoke | wait, now i'm all confused | 05:04 |
| bluesmoke | racarr: did you mean 2.6.29? | 05:04 |
| racarr | This is kind of confusing. Now I'm trying to decide whether I meant 2.6.29 | 05:04 |
| racarr | we definitely determined that the kernel with the stuff needed wouldn't be in jaunty, because it wouldn't be out in time | 05:05 |
| racarr | and I could have sworn that was .28...but that wouldn't really make much sense | 05:05 |
| crimsun | 28 will be out in time for jaunty | 05:08 |
| racarr | Yeah. 2.6.28 is in Jaunty. So I must be confused on when i915 stuff is landing. | 05:08 |
| racarr | which must then be .29 | 05:08 |
| racarr | alternatively none of us in the plymouth session at UDS could count, and it actually is landing in .28 in time for jaunty | 05:09 |
| racarr | but I don't think so. | 05:09 |
| bluesmoke | backport? :) | 05:13 |
| racarr | So. It's all getting put in a ppa | 05:16 |
| racarr | to test plymouth, for boot stuff | 05:16 |
| racarr | but it just happens to conveniently be | 05:17 |
| racarr | all in the same package | 05:17 |
| racarr | (kernel modesetting and DRI2) | 05:17 |
| bluefoxicy | guys I have a question | 05:57 |
| bluefoxicy | why the fuck is my OpenOffice.org listing fonts as "Normal" "Cursiva" "Negreta" "Negretaa cursiva" | 05:57 |
| slangasek | surely that question works just as well without the obscenity? | 06:19 |
| slangasek | bug #105900 | 06:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 105900 in openoffice.org "Bold, Italics, and Bold Italics not in English on Fonts menu" [Unknown,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105900 | 06:19 |
| tjaalton | racarr: DRI2 doesn't need KMS, so 2.6.28 is enough. just that the current version of -intel in jaunty doesn't support DRI2 | 07:07 |
| tjaalton | there's a new beta available, but it needs a new libdrm which in turn crashes X, so.. :) | 07:07 |
| racarr | tjaalton: Right. It doesn't need KMS, I was just under the impression that they happened to be in the same release | 07:07 |
| tjaalton | racarr: nope, KMS for intel is 2.6.29, for ati maybe 2.6.30 | 07:08 |
| racarr | tjaalton: Ah. Ok. That explains my confusion. Thanks. | 07:11 |
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| Keybuk | https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-boot/msg00003.html | 10:05 |
| Keybuk | ...interesting, but probably not a metric ;) | 10:06 |
| Keybuk | 72% of the time in initramfs is udev (though probably also waiting for the root fs), and 42% of the time booting the rest of the system is in udevsettle | 10:07 |
| Koon | Keybuk: interesting, yes :) | 10:08 |
| NCommander | Keybuk, that's 114% percent O_o? | 10:09 |
| Koon | NCommander: the two % don't refer to the same thing, so no. | 10:10 |
| NCommander | oh | 10:10 |
| * NCommander inserts his foot into his mouth | 10:10 | |
| * RainCT watches NCommander inserting his foot into his mouth | 10:15 | |
| * NCommander turns his foot left | 10:15 | |
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| lool | cjwatson: (Pushed pygobject/hardy-proposed) | 10:51 |
| * lool lunch & | 10:52 | |
| cjwatson | lool: thanks | 11:37 |
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| * lool waves a merry christmas! | 16:50 | |
| iulian | Happy Christmas! | 16:51 |
| kees | doko_: any chance you're around? I have a patch to glibc to "fix" bug 305901 | 17:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 305901 in glibc "Intrepid gcc -O2 breaks string appending with sprintf(), due to fortify source patch" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/305901 | 17:35 |
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| gverig | this likely is a dumb question but I can't seem to resolve it on my own. I'm on ubuntu 8.10. What package contains libGL.a? | 18:27 |
| macd | 'apt-file search libGL.a' | 18:27 |
| Pici | or use packages.ubuntu.com if you dont have apt-file installed. | 18:28 |
| macd | what he said too. | 18:28 |
| macd | ;) | 18:28 |
| gverig | Searched packages.ubuntu.com. Found one entry: libgl1-mesa-swx11-dev. this is a "This library provides a pure software rasteriser" and it conflicts with half of the system (including "ubuntu-desktop") | 18:33 |
| gverig | any thoughts? | 18:33 |
| gverig | there is libGL.so... should i link against some other library? | 18:34 |
| azeem | gverig: if you're trying to package some software, better ask in #ubuntu-motu; otherwise, ask in #ubuntu | 18:35 |
| Nafallo | mtr 12.44.117.104 | 18:35 |
| gverig | azeem: I am trying to build something. Something I am trying to write. I asked in #ubuntu they sent me here... | 18:37 |
| gverig | I want to play with OpenGL a bit. and I can't find a GL library to link to... | 18:38 |
| ebroder | Find what package is providing your libGL.so, then add -dev to the package name, and see if that gives you the .a | 18:38 |
| gverig | ebroder: yeah, tried that. libGL.so is provided by libgl1-mesa-dev. No libgl1-mesa-dev-dev :-\ | 18:39 |
| ebroder | Why not just link against the dynamic library? | 18:39 |
| gverig | ebroder: don't I need an .a file to define how to link against a dynamic library? I have not done much C++ in a loooong while | 18:40 |
| ebroder | No. .a is the static library, .so is the dynamic library. You don't need one to link against the other | 18:41 |
| gverig | ebroder: OK, how do I link against dynamic library? | 18:42 |
| ebroder | No idea - I avoid linkers at all costs :) | 18:43 |
| gverig | o_O how do you build stuffs? | 18:43 |
| ebroder | I write everything in Python | 18:43 |
| gverig | ahh, ok | 18:43 |
| ebroder | Anyway, azeem is right - this isn't really an #ubuntu-devel question anymore | 18:44 |
| Treenaks | I just upgraded to jaunty, but now resolv.conf is empty, and I don't have a default route | 19:22 |
| ion_ | It’s a feature. Without proper network access, the computer is now secure. | 19:23 |
| Treenaks | ion_: except against local attackers :) | 19:23 |
| Treenaks | ion_: but I wonder where the bug is.. dhcp client? network-manager? resolvconf? | 19:23 |
| ion_ | Computers are never secure against local attackers. :-) | 19:23 |
| ion_ | Dunno. I’ve been considering upgrading as well, perhaps i’ll stumble upon the same problem. :-) | 19:24 |
| * Nafallo should poke his eeepc | 19:24 | |
| ebroder | Treenaks: Do you have something like NetworkManager installed? | 19:24 |
| Treenaks | ebroder: I just upgraded a mostly-standard intrepid | 19:25 |
| Treenaks | ebroder: so yes, I have network-manager | 19:25 |
| Treenaks | and I've already found something in its log | 19:25 |
| ebroder | Treenaks: I've never used network-manager, but doesn't it create the resolv.conf file and routes and stuff like that? I'd check its config | 19:26 |
| Treenaks | ebroder: I know how it should work, it's just not working as it should | 19:26 |
| Treenaks | ebroder: actually, it worked until a few minutes ago (upgrade to jaunty) | 19:26 |
| * ebroder shrugs | 19:27 | |
| ebroder | You've officially surpassed my expertise on network-manager :) | 19:27 |
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| ebroder | Hmm...I think the Perl security update broke the Errno module: http://pastebin.com/m6d2b5b9d | 22:00 |
| ebroder | Is this an actual regression, or just my system being stupid? | 22:00 |
| ebroder | Oh, never mind - I didn't notice it was in /usr/local | 22:02 |
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| nhandler | nellery: I owe you a thank you. Your merges got me in the Hall of Fame for Sponsoring the Uploads | 23:30 |
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