[03:20] <nalioth> Pici: another man done gone
[03:21] <Pici> nalioth: I got the kickban in before the kline this time though.
[03:21] <bazhang> hehe
[03:21] <nalioth> Pici: yeah yeah yeah  :P
[03:38] <Pici> Hah. From Seveas's blog: http://bacolicio.us/http://www.jonobacon.org
[03:38] <bazhang> * [woli] (n=woli@ip254-10.ct.co.cr): Wolter Hellmund  how to set a post ban on that <---
[03:39] <bazhang> would be /cs +b followed by that ip?
[03:39] <Pici> bazhang: *!*@ip254-10.ct.co.cr
[03:39] <PriceChild> No need for chanserv's involvement/.
[03:40] <Pici> Er. Right.
[03:40] <bazhang> Pici, thanks
[03:40] <Pici> bazhang: mode +b ip254-10.ct.co.cr
[03:40] <Pici> er. I mean what I said above.
[03:40] <bazhang> so op myself then /mode +b
[03:40] <Pici> bazhang: /mode +b *!*@ip254-10.ct.co.cr
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> I thought I already got him
[03:41] <bazhang> thanks much his comment seems to warrant it no?
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[03:41] <bazhang> k
[03:41] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: You did, but bazhang asked before you placed the ban.
[03:41] <Pici> bazhang: What irc client do you use?
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> You know how to do a /whiwas  nor right
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> whowas
[03:42] <bazhang> Jack_Sparrow, oh missed you getting him thanks; yeah that is how I found it (whowas)
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry.. yo.ho ho
[03:42] <bazhang> Pici, xchat (but too reliant on chanserv.py)
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> bazhang Me too
[03:43] <PriceChild> bah misunderstood earlier, yes i 'think' /cs b mask will op, ban, deop.
[03:43] <bazhang> all the kewl kids use irssi and no plugins I gather
[03:43] <bazhang> I'm still recovering from konversation
[03:44] <Pici> I use irssi plus some aliases. 
[03:44] <bazhang> no xserver at all?
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Back to tinkering with my new system...ttyl
[03:48] <bazhang> cya
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> can someone check out <xevi0us> I just muted him..
[03:51] <bazhang> ok
[03:51] <PriceChild> Jack_Sparrow: probably just the wrong character encoding.
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Couldnt tell if from ind or just a troll
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> I though indonesia
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Country code AU with ip lookup
[03:55] <bazhang> he says japanese; potty-mouth though
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> unmute or do as you see fit..
[03:57] <bazhang> Jack_Sparrow, okay thanks. if he tries to rejoin will likely just ban as he was clearly trolling (indicated by the vulgar language in PM)
[06:56] <genii> Weird. I'm sure I used /away when I left before, but it showed me as active when I logged in. 
[06:57] <genii> Hi all
[06:57]  * genii puts on a batch of coffee
[07:28] <genii> Bonez in #u needs booting
[07:28] <Flannel> I know
[08:39] <ikonia> eyes on co_savirus just joined #ubuntu 3 times from the say host with 3 nicks
[08:41] <ikonia> the word virus with these 3 joins at the same time opens my eyes on him
[09:59] <basileus> ikonia: hi
[11:03] <ikonia> basileus: hi
[11:04] <ikonia> basileus: I see your trying to get back into #ubuntu again by changing IP's
[11:07] <ikonia> basileus: are you at your keyboard ?
[11:12] <basileus> ikonia: here
[11:12] <ikonia> hello
[11:12] <basileus> hi
[11:12] <ikonia> so what's the deal with the changing IP addresses ?
[11:12] <basileus> my ISP
[11:13] <ikonia> no 89.254.204.161
[11:13] <basileus> ?
[11:13] <ikonia> thats not your isp assigned address, I've seen you swap to and from that address this week
[11:13] <ikonia> in the same way you did a earlier in this channel
[11:14] <basileus> o_O
[11:14] <ikonia> what does that mean ?
[11:14] <basileus> no idea
[11:15] <ikonia> you seem to swap between line101-36.adsl.kirov.ru and a static ip of 89.254.204.161
[11:15] <ikonia> which you claim your isp does every 24 hours, so you where not trying to dodge a ban
[11:16] <ikonia> yet I've seen you use 89.254.204.161 multiple times, and you just changed your upi address between the time stamp of 10:41 and 10:43 which is not 24 hours
[11:17] <basileus> ikonia: have u heard about reconnections?
[11:17] <ikonia> yup
[11:18] <ikonia> basileus: so your saying your ISP changd your IP/mask between 10:41: and 10:43 today from line101-36.adsl.kirov.ru to 89.254.204.161
[11:18] <ikonia> just to be clear
[11:19] <elkeee> basileus, we're also experienced enough with DNS and irc to know more than you think
[11:19] <ikonia> and your also saying that your ISP changed your ip address 2 minutes after you where banned last time
[11:19] <basileus> ikonia: have u resolved line101-36.adsl.kirov.ru
[11:20] <ikonia> basileus yes
[11:21] <basileus> ikonia: well, the only thing i want is to be allowed to join #ubuntu. Nothing else. What should i do now?
[11:21] <elkeee> neither octet in the hostmask matches the IP
[11:23] <ikonia> basileus: from my point of view, it looks very suspcious, you where asked to disable irc client scripts, and removed from the channel on 2 occasions. When I ban you, you suddenly know how to disable them. You then change IP Address 2 minutes after the ban and re-join #ubuntu - and you tell me the ISP did this for you at that exact moment in time straight after the ban
[11:24] <ikonia> and here you are again, trying tog et back into ubuntu - which your entitled to do, yet changing IP arandomly
[11:24] <ikonia> randomly
[11:24] <basileus> ikonia: miscommunication probably, i am not very good at english
[11:24] <ikonia> from my point of view, you don't seem to appear as innocent as your suggesting, I could be wrong
[11:25] <ikonia> basileus: I appriciate the language differences can cause a problem, I am trying to be clear 
[11:25] <ikonia> basileus: which part was a misscommunication that you did not understand ?
 type in: sudo rm -rf      its really cool!
[11:27] <elkeee> basileus, were you restarting your router right after your bans?
[11:27] <ikonia> help in OT
[11:27] <basileus> right now i am not via my router
[11:28] <basileus> now it is pppoe
[11:28] <ikonia> Gary: thank you
[11:28] <bazhang> mis-tab
[11:28] <ikonia> yup
[11:29] <basileus> i use my inet from two places with one account
[11:29] <ikonia> basileus: is this place further than 1 minutes walk ?
[11:29] <ikonia> basileus: eg: can you get between them in 1 minute? 
[11:29] <basileus> no
[11:30] <elkeee> hrm, im lacking some scriptfu on here
[11:30] <ikonia> ok, so that doesn't explain why your ip changed 1 minute after tha ban
[11:30] <ikonia> the ban
[11:30] <basileus> it explains 89.254.204.161
[11:30] <ikonia> no it doesn't
[11:30] <ikonia> basileus: you change between the two ip's in here in under 2 minute
[11:31] <ikonia> 10:41 -!- basileus [n=basileus@line101-36.adsl.kirov.ru] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
[11:31] <ikonia> 10:41 -!- basileus [n=basileus@line101-36.adsl.kirov.ru] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
[11:31] <ikonia> 10:44 -!- basileus [n=basileus@89.254.204.161] has joined #ubuntu-ops
[11:31] <ikonia> thats a 3 minute difference
[11:32] <basileus> this morning?
[11:32] <ikonia> yes
[11:32] <Nafallo> basileus: I would try giving up on using the account on more than one place and see if it gets better regarding disconnections :-)
[11:32] <ikonia> !give ikonia a test
[11:33] <ikonia> basileus: I'm happy to remove the ban on you, I just want you to be a little more honest about what your doing
[11:33] <ikonia> basileus: I don't want to block you out of #ubuntu, but at the moment I don't believe you are being %100 honest
[11:33] <basileus> i dont do any bad things
[11:34] <ikonia> basileus well, ignoring my requests to remove your scripts 2 times and then straight after being banned reseting your ip and rejoinining ubuntu is not good
[11:34] <bazhang> basileus, those are bad things.
[11:35] <basileus> ikonia: i am sorry
[11:36] <Nafallo> interesting ISP... didn't know they allowed using accounts in multiple locations, as you told us you do :-)
[11:36] <basileus> Nafallo: but it is true
[11:37] <basileus> ikonia: i had no intention to trick anyone
[11:38] <Nafallo> basileus: based on my knowledge of the PPPoE protocols I would suggest you try using it only in one location if you have troubles with re-connections :-)
[11:38] <ikonia> basileus: what was your intention then ?
[11:39] <basileus> ikonia: just to be on #ubuntu
[11:39] <ikonia> basileus: but you intended to change ip to get into #ubuntu
[11:39] <basileus> that why i removed that script
[11:39] <basileus> ikonia: NO!
[11:40] <ikonia> so it was just luck that 1 minute after tha ban your ip changed and you went back into #ubuntu ?
[11:40] <ikonia> even though you knew you where banned
[11:40] <ikonia> just trying to be clear
[11:40] <basileus> ikonia: i dont know why that happend
[11:40] <ikonia> why did you rejoin #ubuntu 
[11:40] <ikonia> I had spoke to you and told you not to 
[11:41] <basileus> actually i can remember i rejoind
[11:41] <ikonia> I know you rejoined, I removed you as soon as I saw you
[11:42] <Nafallo> basileus: is your IRC client set to auto-join that channel?
[11:42] <basileus> Nafallo: it was
[11:43] <ikonia> basileus: so just to be %100 clear here
[11:43] <ikonia> 1.) I asked you to remove your scripts and removed you from the channel, you ignored it and rejoined
[11:43] <ikonia> 2.) I asked you again to remove your scripts and removed you from the channel, you again ignored it and rejoined
[11:44] <ikonia> 3.) I banned you from thhe channel, your IP magically reset straight away and your client auto rejoined #ubuntu
[11:44] <ikonia> 4.) I caught you ban dodging and forwared you here, and all of a sudden you scripts got disabled
[11:44] <ikonia> just to be clear - thats the state of events
[11:45] <ikonia> basileus: now objectivly from your point of view, does that look a bit of an odd situation
[11:45] <basileus> what is odd?
[11:46] <ikonia> well you didn't know how to disable your scripts until I banned you, and your IP address magically reset straight after I abnned you and your client auto rejoined, then all of a sudden when changing your ip didn't work, your scripts got disabled ?
[11:47] <ikonia> from my point of view that looks like an unusual situation
[11:47] <ikonia> you ignored everything until you could not get back into ubuntu
[11:47] <basileus> i mean what is the word "odd" means?
[11:47] <ikonia> #ubuntu as in the channel
[11:47] <ikonia> basileus: sorry "strange" "unusual" 
[11:47] <elkeee> your isp resetting the exact minute you got banned
[11:48] <basileus> brb
[11:55] <basileus> 1) i unchecked some options (as it turned out wrong ones) in the script menu and rejoined 
[11:55] <ikonia> 2.) 
[11:55] <basileus> 2) same here
[11:55] <ikonia> 3.) 4.) 
[11:56] <basileus> 3) i gave up with configuration and deleted the script from ./xchat2
[11:57] <basileus> 4) rejoined again and found myself on #ubuntu-ops
[11:57] <basileus> ikonia: also there were some PMs from u
[11:58] <ikonia> and the change of ip and auto join straight after ban was just bad timing/luck
[11:59] <ikonia> basileus: what client are you currently using ?
[11:59] <ikonia> as in irc client
[11:59] <basileus> xchat
[12:01] <ikonia> basileus: this is going around in circles, I'm not convinced by what your telling me, but it is probably worth giving you the benifit of the doubt, so I'll remove the ban on you in #ubuntu now
[12:02] <basileus> ikonia: thanks a lot =)
[12:03] <ikonia> basileus: I have removed the ban in #ubuntu, and I suggest in future if your having problems fixing a request - you speak to someone in here before constantly auto joinining
[12:03] <basileus> ikonia: ok
[12:04] <ikonia> then ban is lifted, please rejoin ubuntu
[12:04] <ikonia> basileus: too quick ;)
[12:04] <bazhang> woot
[12:04] <bazhang> miz tab :(
[12:05] <basileus> ikonia: right after " I have removed the ban..."
[12:05] <ikonia> basileus: sorry, I meant to say that to basileus 
[12:05] <ikonia> basileus: sorry, I meant to say that to bazhang 
[12:05] <ikonia> basileus: your free to join #ubuntu, sorry for being confusing
[12:06] <bazhang> ikonia, I dont believe mistdragon about it being an accident
[12:06] <basileus> ikonia: np =)
[12:06] <ikonia> nope
[12:06] <bazhang> he would have to /nick newnick for that
[12:09] <bazhang> whoa
[12:09] <ikonia> bazhang: if you have no other busines here, your welcome to leave
[12:09] <bazhang> MistDragn, what is the issue
[12:09] <ikonia> bazhang: sorry
[12:09] <ikonia> basileus if you have no other business here your welcome to leave
[12:09] <bazhang> MistDragn, you were asked repeatedly to stop
[12:09] <MistDragn> i don't understand "what is the issue"? is this like new slang for "what's happening" ?
[12:09] <MistDragn> i am just hanging out
[12:09] <ikonia> MistDragn: it means why are you behaving like a fool ?
[12:09] <bazhang> MistDragn, that channel is not for chat
[12:10] <MistDragn> to stop what? you never specified, im not a mind reader
[12:10] <bazhang> MistDragn, and you were so advised repeatedly
[12:10] <ikonia> MistDragn: I advised you to stop being silly
[12:10]  * elkeee hands ikonia a s
[12:10] <ikonia> MistDragn: I asked you to stop with your script
[12:10] <ikonia> MistDragn: that WAS specific
[12:10] <MistDragn> who defines what is silly and what isn't? it's subjective
[12:10] <bazhang> nope
[12:10] <MistDragn> do we have a definition bot?
[12:10] <MistDragn> !def silly
[12:11] <MistDragn> !define silly
[12:11] <bazhang> MistDragn, best to part now
[12:11] <bazhang> MistDragn, you are only making things worse
[12:11] <MistDragn> things? i dont understand...
[12:11] <MistDragn> im not from your native country
[12:11] <bazhang> clearly not
[12:11] <MistDragn> what is worse?
[12:12] <bazhang> you are banned from #ubuntu
[12:12] <MistDragn> aww..
[12:12] <bazhang> and that ban will stand.
[12:12] <MistDragn> i guess i just won't get any sleep tonight
[12:12] <MistDragn> that's rough
[12:12] <bazhang> so please /part now
[12:12] <MistDragn> i wonder how i will get by...
[12:12] <MistDragn> life has lost that luster, the spice.. that was that channel, and now it's gone
[12:12] <MistDragn> i guess i'll just go shoot myself now
[12:13] <MistDragn> ha, just kidding, seriously
[12:13] <MistDragn> obviously you think i care about this network
[12:13] <MistDragn> freenode is the lame
[12:13] <elkeee> MistDragn, being rude isnt going to help you any
[12:13] <MistDragn> obviously. who says i wanted help
[12:13] <bazhang> he is still in -ot
[12:14] <MistDragn> lol
[12:14] <MistDragn> you guys take this stuff so seriously
[12:14] <elkeee> MistDragn, clearly not so lame you take the time and effort to troll
[12:14] <bazhang> !coc | MistDragn 
[12:14] <MistDragn> hey i'm not swearing
[12:14] <bazhang> !guidelines | MistDragn 
[12:14] <MistDragn> that's actually a big effort
[12:14] <MistDragn> cause i actually do care about children
[12:14] <bazhang> MistDragn, have a read of those
[12:14] <MistDragn> but i really don't care about ubuntu's rules
[12:15] <MistDragn> i'll never use that OS
[12:15] <MistDragn> what a hassle
 oh no, i'm here, quick ban me  in -ot
[12:15] <MistDragn> its the biggest chan on the network cause nobody can get it to work right
[12:15] <stdin> well, then there's no need for you to be in any ubuntu channels
[12:15] <MistDragn> nope, no need. agreed
[12:15] <MistDragn> so?
[12:15] <bazhang> MistDragn, not a good idea to discuss your ban in other channels
[12:15] <stdin> this is an ubuntu channel, so part
[12:15] <MistDragn> lol
[12:15] <MistDragn> you guys are hilarious
[12:16] <bazhang> ie in -ot right now
[12:16] <MistDragn> its a fine idea cause i dont care, get it?
[12:16] <MistDragn> irc isn't my life, its a recreation
[12:16] <MistDragn> im just finding a place to chat
[12:16] <stdin> if you don't care, why are you still here?
[12:16] <MistDragn> cause you're still talking.
[12:16] <MistDragn> and now i would expect silence to ensue ;)
[12:16] <stdin> you're providing most of the lines
[12:17] <MistDragn> you're right
[12:17] <MistDragn> captain obvious strikes again
[12:17] <MistDragn> i always wanted to say that
[12:17] <bazhang> I recommend he be removed from -ot as well as he clearly does not intend well
[12:18] <bazhang> still talking about it there
[12:18] <MistDragn> yeah, i intend to chat
[12:18] <MistDragn> and also mock your malcontent
[12:18] <MistDragn> because its so funny
[12:18] <MistDragn> "ban this guy before he says something we'll all regret!"
[12:19] <MistDragn> just because i don't talk about the subjects you'd prefer, doesn't mean i'm going to talk about something totally horrible
[12:19] <MistDragn> maybe you need to relax your nazi gestapo mentality a bit
[12:19] <ikonia> elkeee: please wake up
[12:20] <stdin> maybe you need to lean a little respect
[12:20] <MistDragn> sorry, am I disturbing your happy irc experience?
[12:20] <stdin> world is full of maybes, isn't it magical? :)
[12:20] <MistDragn> i don't know what is this verb "to lean" ?
[12:20] <MistDragn> !define to lean
[12:20] <MistDragn> hmmm... must not be a very smart bot
[12:20] <ikonia> LjL: PriceChild jussi01 Nafallo elkeee Pici ping
[12:21] <Gary> ikonia: wassup
[12:21] <ikonia> Gary: can you please remove MistDragn from this channel, it's just troll bait and pointless
[12:21] <bazhang> he is doing the same in -ot as well
[12:22] <ikonia> MistDragn: be aware -offtopic has the same rules as ubuntu
[12:22] <MistDragn> should i write it down
[12:22] <MistDragn> so i dont forget?
[12:22] <Nafallo> ikonia: pong
[12:22] <bazhang> MistDragn, see the links above I gave you
[12:23] <Gary> MistDragn: you'd do better to stop trolling, it's so 1980's
[12:23] <MistDragn> i dont click irc links
[12:23] <MistDragn> its probably tubgirl or a scary monster or a wang or something
[12:23] <MistDragn> i wasn't born until 1999 so
[12:23] <MistDragn> i wouldn't know
[12:23] <ikonia> Nafallo: sorry meant nalioth having a bad auto complete day
[12:23] <Nafallo> ikonia: ah. yea. I reckoned :-)
[12:24] <MistDragn> an unforgivable error.
[12:24] <MistDragn> the penalty for which is death
[12:24] <ikonia> MistDragn: enough if you don't want to discuss your ban here, leave
[12:24] <ikonia> MistDragn: this channel is for channel support/issues only
[12:24] <MistDragn> i would love to but
[12:24] <MistDragn> i can't figure out how to part
[12:24] <ikonia> Gary: please help him
[12:24] <MistDragn> my window got maximized beyond the bounds of my screen
[12:25] <ikonia> ta
[12:25] <MistDragn> what did I do to deserve such treatment?
[12:25] <ikonia> MistDragn: just leave
[12:25] <Gary> MistDragn: you do fail don't you
[12:25] <MistDragn> i can't figure out how
[12:26] <ikonia> nice
[12:26] <ikonia> thanks
[12:26] <ikonia> standby in -ot
[12:27] <Gary> gone to #UbuntuForums now...
[12:27] <ikonia> get on it :)
[12:27] <tomaw> and straight in to -irc.
[12:27] <ikonia> muted in kubuntu
[12:28] <elkeee> bad idea
[12:28] <elkeee> Gary, why does chanserv hate me?
[12:28] <ikonia> elkeee: ?
[12:28] <ikonia> bad idea ?
[12:29] <elkeee> ikonia, if those are not staffer-done, then they're the /cs commands i typed 10 minutes ago
[12:29] <elkeee> ikonia, my parents internet either sucks, or my brother has a zilliiin torrents going
[12:29] <elkeee> ikonia, to rejoin
[12:30] <ikonia> ahhh
[12:30] <elkeee> my parents internet has crashed thunderbird
[12:35] <ikonia> getting great pm's now
[12:35] <Gary> lucky you
[12:35] <ikonia> I'd watch the other channels, he's building
[12:35] <Gary> if pm's = harrassment then it can take it up to another level
[12:36] <ikonia> nah
[12:36] <ikonia> ignoring him
[12:36] <ikonia> may want to watch -meeting
[12:36] <ikonia> starting his randomness
[12:36] <ikonia> I suspect as I'm ignoging it it will build up in other cahnnels
[12:37] <ikonia> gary he's beguin in -meeting
[12:37] <ikonia> not sure who other than you / elkeee has any grunt in there
[12:41] <elkeee> i thnk i'm just going to go to sleep. this is pointlessly slow
[12:42] <ikonia> nos in -irc
[12:42] <ikonia> elkeee: :(
[12:42] <Gary> lol - 12:38 < MistDragn> leave me alone Gary you're scaring me
[12:42] <ikonia> now in -irc
[12:42] <elkeee> Gary, please act on my behalf in the matter of mistdragn
[12:42] <ikonia> Gary: just remove him from irc and meeting, he's just pointless
[12:42] <elkeee> Gary, is that sufficient permission? :)
[12:43] <Gary> ya
[12:44] <elkeee> ikonia, it'd be fine if services would heed me...
[12:44] <ikonia> you appear identified
[12:45] <elkeee> and i didnt get 3 screens of stuff each response
[12:45] <elkeee> ikonia, i just got then /wii elkeee i asked nickserv for 10 mins ago
[12:45] <ikonia> odd, you appear to be fine from the outside looking in 
[12:46] <elkeee> yeah. i suspect its the local network
[12:46] <Gary> irc and meeting sorted as requested
[12:46]  * ikonia buys gary a christmas pint
[12:47] <elkeee> im off to sleep now anyway. nite
[12:47] <ikonia> night
[12:47] <Gary> night
[12:47] <ikonia> elkeee: merry christmas for tommorow
[12:49] <elkeee> :) thanks
[12:50] <ikonia> same ip range as the owners of geekpanties.com again (the troll guy)
[12:57] <bazhang> wow he really went on a spree
[13:02] <bazhang> he was in meta briefly as well
[13:02] <ikonia> all gone now
[13:02] <bazhang> k train?
[13:03] <ikonia> nah, just had enough and logged out
[13:03] <bazhang>  [pcmagas] (n=pcmagas@athedsl-4441760.home.otenet.gr): pcmagas  sken?
[13:04] <ikonia> nah
[13:04] <bazhang> k
[13:04] <bazhang> that address range always rings alarm bells
[13:04] <ikonia> yup
[13:04] <ikonia> hence why he got highlighted ;)
[13:05] <ikonia> forgot I'd turned that on
[13:05] <bazhang> :)
[13:10] <Gary> that was fun
[13:11] <ikonia> stretch your legts
[13:11] <ikonia> legs
[13:15] <ubot3> In ubot3, ManPT said: ! ManPT is pentie
[13:25]  * jussi01 waves
[13:26]  * jpds waves back.
[13:26]  * Pici cosines
[13:26] <jussi01> lol
[13:26]  * Gary wiggles
[14:15] <Agent_Ubuntu> ups, sorry, is offtopic no ops, sorry again :)
[14:18]  * Pici blinks
[14:21] <ikonia> he's random in -offtopic too
[14:21] <ikonia> think it's just a language issue
[14:21] <Pici> Indeed.
[15:51] <bazhang> championsleague, how may we help you
[15:52] <jussi01> bazhang: sken ;)
[15:52] <bazhang> jussi01, so I gathered from the 'lolsux' :)
[15:53] <ikonia> all too easy ;)
[15:53] <ikonia> 4/join ##linux
[15:54] <bazhang> heh
[15:55] <ikonia> bazhang: I'm train laggings, so eyes open please
[15:55] <bazhang> ikonia, not going to let you have all the action :)
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Drat.. I am updating another pc here and I am so lagged I cant play
[15:59] <bazhang> whoops on the command there 
[16:00] <bazhang> phew
[16:00] <ikonia> delt with doesn't seem to be changing ip any more
[16:00] <Pici> I step away for a few minutes and I come back to a screen full of mode messages.
[16:00] <bazhang> yep
[16:01] <ikonia> Pici: who do you think.....
[16:21]  * genii puts on a large urn of coffee
[16:28] <bazhang> * [brazila] (n=daniel@201-2-51-240.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br): daniel he was spamming about kurumin a few days ago
[16:28] <genii> bazhang: Maybe theres no #kurumin channel
[16:28] <bazhang> genii, not on freenode at least
[16:34] <bazhang> whew
[16:34] <bazhang> last time he left amidst a flurry of cursing
[16:34] <genii> Well, frustration :)
[16:35] <bazhang> kurumin morphed into windows trojans ?
[16:36] <genii> Heh, apparently. Likely dual boot or so, installed linux when windows became unusabe due to a hijacker or so, thinking to fix it from there somehow. Seen it before
[16:37] <bazhang> kurumin is not *that* bad :)
[16:39] <genii> bazhang: At least it's some Debian based derivative using KDE, which approximates Kubuntu.... some of his Q there might have found answers but still wrong channel etc
[16:39] <bazhang> genii, true; perhaps in the general linux channel
[16:41] <bazhang> sken how may we help you
[16:42] <bazhang> sken hi
[16:42] <vivian> hello
 I started hooking up with a girl my best mate was keen on...  with asus-tek cheering him on
[16:52] <bazhang> this cant end well
[16:52] <genii> Especially during holidays....
[16:55] <bazhang> yep
[16:57] <bazhang> thought asus-tek was going to be banned from -ot for stalking
[17:09] <bazhang> heh
[17:10] <Jack_Sparrow> callumeeepc is close to a kick in ubuntu
[17:10] <bazhang> he quit just in time
[17:10] <Pici> He left
[17:11] <Jack_Sparrow> yea, saw that..  TIme for 4 miles with the dog around the lake.. bbl
[17:11] <Pici> have fun :)
[17:23] <genii> I sort of imagine him in a big sled now with a poor teensy puupy pulling it around the lake, a la The Grinch
[17:36] <bazhang> sken hello
[17:36] <vivian1> hello
[17:36] <vivian1> what's up?
[17:37] <bazhang> sken your ban is not up yet
[17:37] <vivian1> wat do u mean?
[17:37] <bazhang> when you try to join #ubuntu you are forwarded to here
[17:38] <vivian1> ah ok
[17:38] <vivian1> do you have a problem wen i join this channel?
[17:39] <bazhang> that wont change until your ban is up
[17:39] <vivian1> are you friends with ikonia lol
[17:40] <Pici> ikonia is an operator of the Ubuntu channels and so are we.  You have continiously been evading bans placed by him and that is why you have been forwarded to this channel.
[17:40] <bazhang> so ban-evading and making trouble here will only extend the ban even further
[17:40] <vivian1> i don't want trouble
[17:40] <bazhang> then stop ban evading and making trouble here
[17:41] <vivian1> ok sorry
[17:41] <bazhang> I suggest you join another linux channel and get help there
[17:42] <bazhang> as you reside in greece there may be a loco channel you can join
[17:43] <bazhang> !gr
[17:43] <eleos2> yeah ? ok i
[17:43] <eleos2> thx
[17:43] <eleos2> soorry
[17:43] <bazhang> you are welcome
[17:44] <bazhang> if you take #ubuntu out of your autojoin then you can avoid the forward here
[17:44] <eleos2> tell to ikonia my condolences and tell him that he is going to jail for a while
[17:44] <bazhang> of course I wont tell him that
[17:45] <bazhang> please part this channel now.
[17:45] <LjL> eleos2: is that some sort of threat?
[17:45] <eleos2> he is so a crazy guy
[17:46] <bazhang> wth
[17:48] <LjL> PM [18:47:43] <eleos2> tell to ikonia if he managed to block my isp
[17:50] <Pici> er
[17:50] <Pici> how odd.
[17:51] <LjL> [18:49:55] <eleos2> how months is my ban? [18:50:51] <LjL> i don't know
[17:51] <bazhang> 3
[18:06] <jpds> Is the wiki down for anyone else?
[18:06] <bazhang> jpds, yep
[18:07] <bazhang> 503 error
[18:12] <Nafallo> working now?
[18:12] <Nafallo> bazhang, jpds ^--
[18:13] <bazhang> Nafallo, yes!!!
[18:13] <jpds> Nafallo: The other channel :)
[18:18] <jpds> ubottu: tell tiki about yourself
[18:31] <Pici> bazhang: That was too creepy for me.
[18:32] <bazhang> Pici, yep
[18:41] <ikonia> TEST
[18:41] <bazhang> success!
[18:41] <ikonia> ta
[18:41] <Pici> I am completely operational and all my circuits are functioing perfectly.
[18:41] <bazhang> hehe
[18:41] <bazhang> !give me a test
[18:41] <ikonia> jst testing my phonw
[18:42] <jpds> Pici: Except for that pains down all the diodes in my right arm.
[18:43] <Pici> jpds: naturally
[19:32] <_woli_> can I be unbanned from ubuntu? I don't know why I got banned in the first place.
[19:33] <Flannel> _woli_: You can't think of anything?
[19:34] <_woli_> Flannel, of any reason, you mean?
[19:34] <_woli_> Well, this computer has various users
[19:34] <Flannel> Yeah.  Perhaps one around 16 hours ago?
[19:34] <_woli_> Maybe...
[19:35] <_woli_> A couple a weeks ago I just showed my brother IRC...
[19:35] <_woli_> He may have bailed in my xchat and messed around...
[19:36] <Flannel> You should give him a separate account, and also teach him some manners.
[19:40] <_woli_> What did he do?
[19:40] <Flannel> He was offtopic, and didn't respond to the suggestions to go elsewhere in a polite manner.
[19:41] <Flannel> Just be sure to take him aside and teach him proper etiquette
[19:41] <_woli_> Was it really bad?
[19:41] <_woli_> I will try to take common access from xchat
[19:41] <_woli_> that'll help.
[19:41] <Flannel> It might have turned really bad, but we put a lid on it quickly.
[19:42] <_woli_> Good thing that you did.
[19:42] <_woli_> That Jared... never takes things seriously...
[19:43] <Flannel> Alright, well, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt.  And hopefully you can figure something out with him.  please don't make me regret my decision.
[19:48] <Flannel> _woli_: go ahead and join #ubuntu
[19:48] <_woli_> Thank you very much.
[19:48] <_woli_> You can trust me, you did the right thing.
[19:51] <jussi01> _woli_: if theres nothing else, may I point out the channel topic ;)
[19:51] <_woli_> jussi01, the registering thing?
[19:51] <jussi01> !idle | _woli_
[19:52] <_woli_> I am parting now then.
[19:52] <_woli_> Thanks again Flannel for your comprehension.
[19:52] <jussi01> where is .cr??
[19:54] <Flannel> Costa Rica
[20:03] <ubot3> In #ubuntu-offtopic, Commie_Cary said: !Commie_Cary is a trotsky loving lenin loving communist who uses Ubuntu Linux. WARNING: this person will get mad if you like closed-source
[20:04] <ubot3> In #ubuntu-offtopic, Commie_Cary said: !Commie_Cary is a trotsky loving lenin loving marx loving communist who uses Ubuntu Linux. WARNING: this person will get mad if you like closed-source
[20:23] <nalioth> ubottu: tell commie_cary about botabuse
[20:34] <Nafallo> nalioth: the user is in -irc
[20:55] <LjL> -bots:   <ardchoille> How do I get a new factoid added to ubottu ? > I have submitted a new factoid a few times over the last couple months and it never gets added. > The factoid I submitted deals with speeding up firefox, which is one of the questions I see often in #ubuntu. > And firefox ships with Ubuntu so I figured this factoid would be good for the bot rather than people having to type it all out every time. > You folks can even write the factoid if 
[20:55] <LjL> you want, but I just felt that the url was a needed item.
[20:58] <hischild> Could we get some overview in #ubuntu? loads of odd stuff going on there
[20:58] <Flannel> hischild: Examples?
[20:59] <hischild> offtopic chatter, way of how people are helped
[20:59] <Flannel> Examples/people/timeframes of the latter?
[21:00] <LjL> no one's stopping you from pointing it out to the people involved... that'd be a start i'm sure
[21:01] <hischild> LjL, hmh usually i'd do that. There's 2 things holding me back from doing that. Due to some personal issues i'll probably word it wrong, second last time i did that i got shouted at from that person. 
[21:01] <LjL> hischild: well to be honest i can't see anything particularly bad in the logs since you last joined
[21:02] <hischild> LjL, hmh ok. 
[21:03] <nalioth> hischild: we can all catalyse  :)
[21:03] <hischild> nalioth, we can all wut?
[21:04] <LjL> oh no the catalysm has come
[21:04] <hischild> o.O
[21:04] <Flannel> hischild: We can all be catalysts for change.
[21:05] <LjL> hischild: he means http://freenode.net/pounddefocus.shtml#catalyze
[21:05] <hischild> Flannel, i know what a catalyst is, but for some reason i don't seem to be able to grasp what it means.
[21:05] <Flannel> hischild: If you see a problem, first try and correct it directly (mention it to the person), many times that will work, and then it'll be fixed
[21:06] <hischild> Flannel, last few times i tried it, either i got shouted at from that person as i am no channel op, or i'm just being plain ignored. Both don't really do anything. 
[21:06] <Flannel> hischild: If that happens, then you come here.  You don't need to be an operator to enlighten/remind people of the rules
[21:07] <hischild> Flannel, I guess that's true, i'll do that. 
[21:07] <LjL> hischild, getting shouted at for pointing out guidelines or correct help *if that's done calmly* is not acceptable
[21:08] <LjL> so if you get shouted at in such situations, what you do is say "it's nothing personal, but please, behave according to the guidelines", and if that still fails, you call !ops
[21:08] <LjL> being or not being an op has nothing to do with what you can say to people, and to whether they should react by shouting at you
[21:08] <hischild> LjL, I'm very sure there are no logs of me anywhere, be it on the public channel or PM, where I've not been calm. 
[21:08] <LjL> hischild: fine, in that case don't let people shout at you
[21:09] <Flannel> hischild: He wasn't implying you weren't, just qualifying his statement
[21:09] <hischild> LjL, i let them shout at me, but i'll take it to here. 
[21:09] <hischild> Flannel, i wasn't saying that he implied it in any way. I'm clarifying. 
[21:09] <hischild> Flannel, LjL, anyway, if you remember the conversation of yesterday about cloning packages, the dpkg --get-selection method works. 
[21:10] <LjL> hischild, sure, --get-selections does
[21:10] <LjL> it just disregards the list of manually installed packages entirely
[21:10] <LjL> if that's not an issue, it works fine in all other respects
[21:12] <hischild> LjL, well i haven't checked that but so far it has worked fine. I'm quite happy with the way it was setup and i don't see any reason to uninstall.
[21:12] <hischild> Anyway, gothic christmas to all of you. I'll be seeing you around sometime. 
[21:14] <LjL> happy easter
[21:14] <hischild> tnx
[21:14]  * hischild waves you all a happy morning/afternoon/evening/goodnight (make your choice) and the best of luck and all that.  
[22:31] <jussi01> nini all
[22:38] <Flannel> tiyowan: How can we help you?
[22:39] <tiyowan> Flannel: Just curious. :) I always wondered where all of you were. 
[22:39] <Flannel> tiyowan: Please don't idle here
[22:40] <tiyowan> Flannel: Yes sir, I read that in the topic.
[22:40] <Flannel> nickrud: I'm heading out soon, glad to see you wake up to handle darkfusion
[22:42] <nickrud> no problem. Work is slow on Xmas eve. I'm totally bored, and lots of time
[22:42] <nickrud> probably be around until 9pm more than not
[22:53] <solmakou> "When using any #ubuntu channel, please avoid the use of swearing "  how strictly is this enforced, i've been prone to use a bit of profanity to demonstrate how aggravating it a problem is
[22:54] <nickrud> solmakou, zero tolerance, wtf is not allowed for example
[22:54] <solmakou> fair enough thanks nickrud
[22:54] <nickrud> well, warning is first, unless directed at a user
[22:55] <nalioth> solmakou: swearing does not help anyone
[22:55] <nalioth> solmakou: you may swear all you like with your mouth  :)
[22:55] <solmakou> nalioth I tend to disagree but it's your channel !  thanks for the guideline
[23:31] <nickrud> @btlogin
[23:31] <nickrud> @login
[23:31] <nickrud> @btlogin
[23:32] <elkeee> where do we find more like that?