[01:24] what should i do if i want to add "show the desktop"ico to AWN ? [01:24] awn? [01:25] me prefers to use Ctrl+alt+d [01:26] oh... [01:26] of course , i can use c+a+d [01:28] and i want to add a launcher point to a location , but it didn't work [01:30] * ScottK notes /topic and suggest this probably isn't the best channel for this. [02:08] would anyone be able to look at my bind configs and tell me what ive done that would make bind fail? === zoradon is now known as belzoradon [06:11] What is the command to run after installing Ebox? Please [07:14] hello, I'm trying to use LDAP for authentication, I get results from ldapsearch -x, libnss-ldap.conf , ldap.conf and nsswitch.conf configured this way: http://rafb.net/p/m0iGQZ77.html [11:06] anyone still up? [11:08] does anyone know if a server with 8gb ram needs a 64bit os to fully utilize that amount of memory? [11:08] you can use PAE extentions to access anything above 4gb [11:08] however no process will be able to allocate more than 4gb [11:09] that involves recompiling kernel? [11:09] i believe PAE options are enabled in the stock kernel [11:09] # grep PAE /boot/config-2.6.24-21-server [11:09] CONFIG_X86_PAE=y [11:10] tis on mine [11:14] yea it's also CONFIG_X86_PAE=y here [11:15] should be all set then [12:21] New bug: #311152 in samba (main) "Segfault when trying to use ldapsam:trusted=yes option" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/311152 [12:44] Hi guys. I have a little question. After I install and configure postfix, and install for example squirrelmail. Do I have anything else to do ? [12:51] <_ruben> sit back and watch the spam arrive [12:53] I wasn't talking about that. [13:10] read the documentation? :> [13:11] which would have told you you need an imap server like courier or dovecot :P [13:13] The squirrelmail in the repos is good ? [13:13] Or do i have to install it manualy from the official website ? [13:17] ERROR: Connection dropped by IMAP server. [13:17] I've installed dovecot... [13:22] repo one is good [13:23] Ok. [13:23] I've made it... i wanted to send a mail. [13:23] : connect to g.mx.mail.yahoo.com[209.191.118.103]:25: [13:23] Connection timed out [13:23] Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender :| [13:23] your isp blocks port 25 out i bet [13:23] its fairly common lately [13:24] means you have to use your ISPs MX [13:24] Mhzzz.... i think it's from my router... [13:24] you using postfix ? [13:25] dpkg-reconfigure postfix [13:25] and set up your ISPs smtp [13:25] so it sends via that, instead of acting as its own smtp [13:25] you likely have a login/pass for it [13:25] and another port [13:25] either ssl or some random number [13:27] I've send myself an e-mail and it worked... [13:27] yea thats internal [13:27] <_ruben> or yahoo blocks your dynamic ip address [13:27] they arent sent out [13:27] _ruben: it was google [13:27] oh wait, yahoo sorry [13:28] they dont block on the network level like that i think [13:28] easy to find out tho [13:28] just try to telnet to an smtp that listens on 25 [13:28] $10 says it'll fail [13:29] telnet blt.ath.cx 25 [13:29] Do you guys see it ? [13:29] nope [13:29] try telnet www.alandfaraway.org 25 [13:30] if that doesnt work, ISP blocks [13:30] Trying... [13:30] And trying... [13:31] I got to make a phonecall. [13:32] just dpkg-recondigure postfix [13:32] your isp wont unblock [13:32] why run a smtp from a homenetwork anyway [13:32] better to use your ISPs box for that [13:33] I'll ask them. [13:33] trust me, they wont [13:34] the callcenter youre getting wont even have the tools for that [13:34] its blocked on a central office somewhere, by people much higher up [13:34] get the portnumber they use tho [13:38] Nobody is answering... [13:41] usually very little action in callcenters on xmas eve [13:41] odd [13:45] If I change the port of SMTP ? [13:45] From 25 to another ? [14:03] AshTray-: yeah [14:03] AshTray-: but its easier to just act like an smtp proxy [14:03] and just fwd all smtp to your ISPs smtp box [14:03] on its port [14:03] all you need is pop/imap right ? [14:04] Yeah [14:04] youre not gonna use the box as an smtp from other machines outside your net right ? [14:04] so [14:04] dpkg-reconfigure postfix [14:04] and type in your ISPs smtp, and login/pass/port [14:04] and youre golden [14:05] Except the fact I don't have an e-mail from my ISP :) [14:05] Can i use gmail? :)) [14:05] doesnt matter likely [14:05] try telneting to your ISPs smtp box [14:05] might not even require auth [14:05] since your in their network [14:06] I don't have a clue how my ISP smtp server is called :| [14:06] yeah, you can use google, but they likely dont have an open port outside 25 that isnt ssl [14:07] type 'dig MX your-isp-hostname.tld' [14:07] 220 smtp.rdslink.ro ESMTP [14:07] yup [14:07] RDS is my ISP... [14:07] could you access it on port 25 ? [14:07] they might allow that, since youre in their net [14:08] I can access it. [14:08] ok [14:08] apt-get install nmap [14:08] nmap smtp.rdslink.ro -P0 [14:08] <_ruben> check the docs made available to you by your isp on how to configure your email client .. those tell you which in/outbound servers to use [14:08] Starting Nmap 4.62 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2008-12-24 16:09 EST [14:09] My isp is crap ;) [14:09] The don't give you shit. [14:10] P0 takes a while [14:10] itll give you a port [14:10] I see. [14:10] 587 is fairly common i think [14:10] I hope it's not password protected... [14:10] nmap scans every port [14:10] and prints the open ones [14:10] <_ruben> it doesnt (by default) [14:10] <_ruben> it scans the most common ones [14:10] <_ruben> by default [14:10] yeah <1024 [14:10] <_ruben> no [14:11] <_ruben> also >1024 [14:11] oh yeah ? [14:11] doubt an ISP will pick a >1024 for smtp tho [14:11] when blocking 25 [14:13] <_ruben> i doubt they use another port than 25 (except 465 which is ssl enabled smtp) .. they most likely just filter all port 25 traffic *except* the traffic to/from their own (monitored) mail server(s) [14:14] _ruben: its not uncommon to block 25 [14:14] for private ISPs [14:14] we already know his ISP does that [14:14] and he tried to telnet his own ISPs smtp on that port [14:14] so they block for internal boxes too [14:14] hence, he needs to find the real port [14:15] A... i think i have a problem here. I found in my contract an e-mail account. It's @rdslink.ro with username and password. I tried to login and it didn't work... [14:16] whats the smtp and port ? [14:16] Not written... [14:16] hehe [14:16] <_ruben> zicada: the external inbound mail servers isnt necesarily the same as the internal outbound mail server [14:16] really ? [14:16] <_ruben> perhaps its webmail only [14:16] _ruben: i know, we did dig MX and got smtp.ispname.tld [14:17] pretty likely thats the smtp [14:17] every ISP provides an SMTP obv [14:17] <_ruben> zicada: thats the external inbound mail server [14:17] <_ruben> which hardly ever is the same as the internal outbound mail server which is to be used by subscribers [14:17] INBOUND ? [14:17] <_ruben> mx records are for inbound mail traffic, not outbound [14:17] its an smtp server [14:18] logically from the hostname, its the one to use [14:18] <_ruben> it *could* be, but not necesarily [14:18] true, not necessarily [14:18] but, pretty good odds [14:19] <_ruben> only with small isps, larger ones seperate inbound and outbound over several server(farm)s [14:19] not necessarily [14:19] loadbalancing smtp.hostname.tld [14:19] is not that uncommon [14:19] wizard@metro:~$ telnet www.alandfaraway.org 25 [14:19] Trying 85.165.170.15... [14:19] Connected to www.alandfaraway.org. [14:19] Escape character is '^]'. [14:19] 220 zic.darktech.org ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu) [14:19] ah [14:19] Same ISP, different account type... [14:20] you had blocked 25 locally huh [14:20] It's another box. [14:20] yeah, so the first box blocks 25 out [14:20] No. It's on the same ISP, but my box it's on dynamic ip and that one has a static IP [14:21] For blt i pay 9 euros, for metro i pay 25 :) [14:22] <_ruben> so still, there's to find out which outbound mail server you can use (as provided by your isp), which possibly might be none, as in no mail or just webmail only [14:23] ah [14:23] so put the box on static [14:23] obv ips you get dealt from their dhcp are blocked at 25 [14:24] Can't afoard :| [14:24] ok [14:24] then you need to find their smtp and port [14:24] :S [14:24] Damn bastards [14:25] call them again [14:25] demand smtp and port [14:25] :D [14:25] <_ruben> or search the help section on their website [14:25] yeah [14:27] I found on their website another smtp server... smtp.rdsmail.ro [14:29] thats the same one [14:29] oh [14:29] rdsmail [14:29] And a phone number.... [14:29] see if you can connect to 25 on that from the dhcpd box [14:30] Noap [14:30] Only the rdslink works. [14:30] then yer fucked :D [14:30] oh [14:30] you can connect to 25 on that ? [14:31] from then nonstatic one [14:34] all you really need is to connect to any smtp that allows you to send [14:34] either by being inside their net, or by auth [14:37] the smtp.rdsmail.ro one doesnt have anything [14:37] just 25 [14:37] for smtp [14:37] Oh god... [14:37] What and idiot [14:38] ? [14:39] He told me to login on my webmail account, and click somwhere to apply for a 25 port unblock [14:39] really ? [14:40] Yeah [14:40] you can toggle 25block from your webmail interface ? [14:40] neat [14:40] Greetings [14:43] LOL [14:43] If I login :)) It smashes in my face "UMBLOCK SMTP" [14:44] UNBLOCK [14:44] doh [14:44] never heard of an ISP that did it like that tho [14:44] why block 25 when you can just do that [14:44] odd [14:45] i guess they figure the njubs who are stupid enough to get horrible malware that spams port 25 arent clever enough to log into webmail [14:45] They is it's not necesarly to umblock the 25 port. I can use smtp.rdslink.ro [14:45] :D [14:45] ah, figured [14:46] And they also say I have to give them a good motiv to umblock that port :))))))))))) [14:46] unblock* [14:46] zicada, AshTray- my home ISP blocks all port 25 connections to any mail server execpt their own... [14:47] Interesting ports on smtp.rdslink.ro (193.231.236.97): [14:47] 25/tcp open smtp [14:47] ... I asked them 'why?' and their response was malware that tries to mass-mail with their own SMTP engines [14:47] which is like... sooooo 90's :) [14:49] Anyway what's the point of mass-mailing ? Anyway most of the people don't read that shit.... [14:50] Works now! :D [14:50] It's been a long that. [14:50] day* [14:51] Now the spam-assasin shit... [14:53] hehe [14:54] I like SPF... would just wish other mail admins would implement it faster [14:54] ... and configure their mail servers correctly... grrrr [14:55] say... anyone know how to ignore socket files with tar? [14:56] I'm trying to do a backup of / with some excluded directories... but there are a couple of socket files that are in different places and I get emailed ... tar: /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock: socket ignored [14:56] really a waste of an email from cron [14:57] best mailserver i ever ran was this qmail+vpopmail one on an old gentoo box [14:57] was up for like 3 years [14:57] never had a single issue [14:58] Gentoo goodness ... compiling from source not so goodness [14:59] with VMware server 2.0 virtual machine created for Ubuntu Server 8.10 x86 and the installation no responding at "Configuring apt" with status of "Scanning the mirror"... http://picpaste.com/aaaaa.jpg - please advise, how to fix [15:02] nomingzi, it's not VMware Server... it's actually scanning the mirror... and most likely a slow mirror... I always have the install hang at 20% 'Scanning the mirror' and have to wait for around 10 minutes [15:02] afterwards, I switch to better mirrors :) [15:04] Fenix|work: My computer do not have any Mirror/RAID configuration. [15:04] nomingzi, wrong type of mirror. It's scanning the packages mirror somewhere on the internet. [15:06] Fenix|work: How do I change the mirror sites to a fast link, prior to the installation ? [15:06] prior... I don't think you can... [15:06] you have to wait it out [15:06] afterwards you can modify /etc/apt/sources.list to a more local mirror that is fast. [15:07] Fenix|work: oh...no... anyway, thanks for your guidance. [15:07] how long has it been 'Scanning the mirror'? [15:08] Fenix|work: I think now should be more than 15 minutes :-( [15:10] hehe sup AshTray- [15:31] Damn.. internet cracked :| [15:33] Off making food. Thanks zicada. [15:36] np [15:36] marry xmas [15:37] merry too [15:37] off to continue making foods [17:36] HALP!! I broke my GRUB! [17:36] I don't know how I did it, but not I am trying to fix it and grub is telling me that it can't mount my partition [18:08] I seem to be having trouble sharing directories/files over samba. I make the directory shareable and my other user on another computer can see the directory. They are promted for a username and password and they use the ones that I set up on the host computer but it still does not allow them access. [18:09] Not sure what I'm doing wrong here. [18:09] Oh yeah, these are both Ubuntu 8.10 machines [18:13] keithclark: are the user's on the host computer setup for Samba? if not you can use the "smbpasswd -a username" command to add the user's to the Samba database [18:15] sommer, thanks, trying that now. [18:18] sommer, thanks! Perfect. Still learning here. [18:23] keithclark: np [18:35] ok, I'm getting a geub error 17 [18:35] grub* [18:36] \when I boot from a live cd to fix grub [18:36] it tells me it can't mount the drive [18:37] and I am stuck [20:11] yo [20:11] how do you tell if ubuntu server needs a reboot after updating? [20:12] danielm_mc: https://launchpad.net/screen-profiles <-- that's coming soon :-) [20:13] hah, nice [20:13] looks like top [20:13] well, yea. it is. [20:13] i just updated a server and nagios is still screaming that there are updates for it [20:13] I was more about the rest of it ;-) [20:13] lol, nice [20:13] the colorful stuff at the bottom of the screen [20:14] ahh [20:14] small picture [20:14] yea :-/ [20:14] http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2008/12/ubuntu-server-includes-window-manager.html <-- danielm_mc [20:15] oh nice [20:16] New bug: #311239 in network-manager (main) "network-manager does not set default route (dup-of: 307204)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/311239 [21:02] what can be wrong when the nvidia X server settings don't see my second graphical card ?