[01:24] <y0315219> what should i do if i want to add "show the desktop"ico to AWN ?
[01:24] <jmedina> awn?
[01:25] <jmedina> me prefers to use Ctrl+alt+d
[01:26] <y0315219> oh...
[01:26] <y0315219> of course , i can use c+a+d
[01:28] <y0315219> and i want to add a launcher point to a location , but it didn't work
[01:30]  * ScottK notes /topic and suggest this probably isn't the best channel for this.
[02:08] <belzoradon> would anyone be able to look at my bind configs and tell me what ive done that would make bind fail?
[06:11] <alex_21> What is the command to run after installing Ebox? Please
[07:14] <ghaleb_> hello, I'm trying to use LDAP for authentication,  I get results from ldapsearch -x,   libnss-ldap.conf , ldap.conf and  nsswitch.conf configured this way:   http://rafb.net/p/m0iGQZ77.html
[11:06] <Mal3ko> anyone still up?
[11:08] <Mal3ko> does anyone know if a server with 8gb ram needs a 64bit os to fully utilize that amount of memory?
[11:08] <Deeps> you can use PAE extentions to access anything above 4gb
[11:08] <Deeps> however no process will be able to allocate more than 4gb
[11:09] <Mal3ko> that involves recompiling kernel?
[11:09] <Deeps> i believe PAE options are enabled in the stock kernel
[11:09] <Deeps> # grep PAE /boot/config-2.6.24-21-server
[11:09] <Deeps> CONFIG_X86_PAE=y
[11:10] <Deeps> tis on mine
[11:14] <Mal3ko> yea it's also CONFIG_X86_PAE=y here
[11:15] <Deeps> should be all set then
[12:44] <AshTray-> Hi guys. I have a little question. After I install and configure postfix, and install for example squirrelmail. Do I have anything else to do ?
[12:51] <_ruben> sit back and watch the spam arrive
[12:53] <AshTray-> I wasn't talking about that.
[13:10] <Chipzz> read the documentation? :>
[13:11] <Chipzz> which would have told you you need an imap server like courier or dovecot :P
[13:13] <AshTray-> The squirrelmail in the repos is good ?
[13:13] <AshTray-> Or do i have to install it manualy from the official website ?
[13:17] <AshTray-> ERROR: Connection dropped by IMAP server.
[13:17] <AshTray-> I've installed dovecot...
[13:22] <zicada> repo one is good
[13:23] <AshTray-> Ok.
[13:23] <AshTray-> I've made it... i wanted to send a mail.
 connect to g.mx.mail.yahoo.com[209.191.118.103]:25:
[13:23] <AshTray->     Connection timed out
[13:23] <AshTray-> Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender :|
[13:23] <zicada> your isp blocks port 25 out i bet
[13:23] <zicada> its fairly common lately
[13:24] <zicada> means you have to use your ISPs MX
[13:24] <AshTray-> Mhzzz.... i think it's from my router...
[13:24] <zicada> you using postfix ?
[13:25] <zicada> dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[13:25] <zicada> and set up your ISPs smtp
[13:25] <zicada> so it sends via that, instead of acting as its own smtp
[13:25] <zicada> you likely have a login/pass for it
[13:25] <zicada> and another port
[13:25] <zicada> either ssl or some random number
[13:27] <AshTray-> I've send myself an e-mail and it worked...
[13:27] <zicada> yea thats internal
[13:27] <_ruben> or yahoo blocks your dynamic ip address
[13:27] <zicada> they arent sent out
[13:27] <zicada> _ruben: it was google
[13:27] <zicada> oh wait, yahoo sorry
[13:28] <zicada> they dont block on the network level like that i think
[13:28] <zicada> easy to find out tho
[13:28] <zicada> just try to telnet to an smtp that listens on 25
[13:28] <zicada> $10 says it'll fail
[13:29] <AshTray-> telnet blt.ath.cx 25
[13:29] <AshTray-> Do you guys see it ?
[13:29] <zicada> nope
[13:29] <zicada> try telnet www.alandfaraway.org 25
[13:30] <zicada> if that doesnt work, ISP blocks
[13:30] <AshTray-> Trying...
[13:30] <AshTray-> And trying...
[13:31] <AshTray-> I got to make a phonecall.
[13:32] <zicada> just dpkg-recondigure postfix
[13:32] <zicada> your isp wont unblock
[13:32] <zicada> why run a smtp from a homenetwork anyway
[13:32] <zicada> better to use your ISPs box for that
[13:33] <AshTray-> I'll ask them.
[13:33] <zicada> trust me, they wont
[13:34] <zicada> the callcenter youre getting wont even have the tools for that
[13:34] <zicada> its blocked on a central office somewhere, by people much higher up
[13:34] <zicada> get the portnumber they use tho
[13:38] <AshTray-> Nobody is answering...
[13:41] <zicada> usually very little action in callcenters on xmas eve
[13:41] <zicada> odd
[13:45] <AshTray-> If I change the port of SMTP ?
[13:45] <AshTray-> From 25 to another ?
[14:03] <zicada> AshTray-: yeah
[14:03] <zicada> AshTray-: but its easier to just act like an smtp proxy
[14:03] <zicada> and just fwd all smtp to your ISPs smtp box
[14:03] <zicada> on its port
[14:03] <zicada> all you need is pop/imap right ?
[14:04] <AshTray-> Yeah
[14:04] <zicada> youre not gonna use the box as an smtp from other machines outside your net right ?
[14:04] <zicada> so
[14:04] <zicada> dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[14:04] <zicada> and type in your ISPs smtp, and login/pass/port
[14:04] <zicada> and youre golden
[14:05] <AshTray-> Except the fact I don't have an e-mail from my ISP :)
[14:05] <AshTray-> Can i use gmail? :))
[14:05] <zicada> doesnt matter likely
[14:05] <zicada> try telneting to your ISPs smtp box
[14:05] <zicada> might not even require auth
[14:05] <zicada> since your in their network
[14:06] <AshTray-> I don't have a clue how my ISP smtp server is called :|
[14:06] <zicada> yeah, you can use google, but they likely dont have an open port outside 25 that isnt ssl
[14:07] <zicada> type 'dig MX your-isp-hostname.tld'
[14:07] <AshTray-> 220 smtp.rdslink.ro ESMTP
[14:07] <zicada> yup
[14:07] <AshTray-> RDS is my ISP...
[14:07] <zicada> could you access it on port 25 ?
[14:07] <zicada> they might allow that, since youre in their net
[14:08] <AshTray-> I can access it.
[14:08] <zicada> ok
[14:08] <zicada> apt-get install nmap
[14:08] <zicada> nmap smtp.rdslink.ro -P0
[14:08] <_ruben> check the docs made available to you by your isp on how to configure your email client .. those tell you which in/outbound servers to use
[14:08] <AshTray-> Starting Nmap 4.62 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2008-12-24 16:09 EST
[14:09] <AshTray-> My isp is crap ;)
[14:09] <AshTray-> The don't give you shit.
[14:10] <zicada> P0 takes a while
[14:10] <zicada> itll give you a port
[14:10] <AshTray-> I see.
[14:10] <zicada> 587 is fairly common i think
[14:10] <AshTray-> I hope it's not password protected...
[14:10] <zicada> nmap scans every port
[14:10] <zicada> and prints the open ones
[14:10] <_ruben> it doesnt (by default)
[14:10] <_ruben> it scans the most common ones
[14:10] <_ruben> by default
[14:10] <zicada> yeah <1024
[14:10] <_ruben> no
[14:11] <_ruben> also >1024
[14:11] <zicada> oh yeah ?
[14:11] <zicada> doubt an ISP will pick a >1024 for smtp tho
[14:11] <zicada> when blocking 25
[14:13] <_ruben> i doubt they use another port than 25 (except 465 which is ssl enabled smtp) .. they most likely just filter all port 25 traffic *except* the traffic to/from their own (monitored) mail server(s)
[14:14] <zicada> _ruben: its not uncommon to block 25
[14:14] <zicada> for private ISPs
[14:14] <zicada> we already know his ISP does that
[14:14] <zicada> and he tried to telnet his own ISPs smtp on that port
[14:14] <zicada> so they block for internal boxes too
[14:14] <zicada> hence, he needs to find the real port
[14:15] <AshTray-> A... i think i have a problem here. I found in my contract an e-mail account. It's @rdslink.ro with username and password. I tried to login and it didn't work...
[14:16] <zicada> whats the smtp and port ?
[14:16] <AshTray-> Not written...
[14:16] <zicada> hehe
[14:16] <_ruben> zicada: the external inbound mail servers isnt necesarily the same as the internal outbound mail server
[14:16] <zicada> really ?
[14:16] <_ruben> perhaps its webmail only
[14:16] <zicada> _ruben: i know, we did dig MX and got smtp.ispname.tld
[14:17] <zicada> pretty likely thats the smtp
[14:17] <zicada> every ISP provides an SMTP obv
[14:17] <_ruben> zicada: thats the external inbound mail server
[14:17] <_ruben> which hardly ever is the same as the internal outbound mail server which is to be used by subscribers
[14:17] <zicada> INBOUND ?
[14:17] <_ruben> mx records are for inbound mail traffic, not outbound
[14:17] <zicada> its an smtp server
[14:18] <zicada> logically from the hostname, its the one to use
[14:18] <_ruben> it *could* be, but not necesarily
[14:18] <zicada> true, not necessarily
[14:18] <zicada> but, pretty good odds
[14:19] <_ruben> only with small isps, larger ones seperate inbound and outbound over several server(farm)s
[14:19] <zicada> not necessarily
[14:19] <zicada> loadbalancing smtp.hostname.tld
[14:19] <zicada> is not that uncommon
[14:19] <AshTray-> wizard@metro:~$ telnet www.alandfaraway.org 25
[14:19] <AshTray-> Trying 85.165.170.15...
[14:19] <AshTray-> Connected to www.alandfaraway.org.
[14:19] <AshTray-> Escape character is '^]'.
[14:19] <AshTray-> 220 zic.darktech.org ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu)
[14:19] <zicada> ah
[14:19] <AshTray-> Same ISP, different account type...
[14:20] <zicada> you had blocked 25 locally huh
[14:20] <AshTray-> It's another box.
[14:20] <zicada> yeah, so the first box blocks 25 out
[14:20] <AshTray-> No. It's on the same ISP, but my box it's on dynamic ip and that one has a static IP
[14:21] <AshTray-> For blt i pay 9 euros, for metro i pay 25 :)
[14:22] <_ruben> so still, there's to find out which outbound mail server you can use (as provided by your isp), which possibly might be none, as in no mail or just webmail only
[14:23] <zicada> ah
[14:23] <zicada> so put the box on static
[14:23] <zicada> obv ips you get dealt from their dhcp are blocked at 25
[14:24] <AshTray-> Can't afoard :|
[14:24] <zicada> ok
[14:24] <zicada> then you need to find their smtp and port
[14:24] <zicada> :S
[14:24] <AshTray-> Damn bastards
[14:25] <zicada> call them again
[14:25] <zicada> demand smtp and port
[14:25] <zicada> :D
[14:25] <_ruben> or search the help section on their website
[14:25] <zicada> yeah
[14:27] <AshTray-> I found on their website another smtp server... smtp.rdsmail.ro
[14:29] <zicada> thats the same one
[14:29] <zicada> oh
[14:29] <zicada> rdsmail
[14:29] <AshTray-> And a phone number....
[14:29] <zicada> see if you can connect to 25 on that from the dhcpd box
[14:30] <AshTray-> Noap
[14:30] <AshTray-> Only the rdslink works.
[14:30] <zicada> then yer fucked :D
[14:30] <zicada> oh
[14:30] <zicada> you can connect to 25 on that ?
[14:31] <zicada> from then nonstatic one
[14:34] <zicada> all you really need is to connect to any smtp that allows you to send
[14:34] <zicada> either by being inside their net, or by auth
[14:37] <zicada> the smtp.rdsmail.ro one doesnt have anything
[14:37] <zicada> just 25
[14:37] <zicada> for smtp
[14:37] <AshTray-> Oh god...
[14:37] <AshTray-> What and idiot
[14:38] <zicada> ?
[14:39] <AshTray-> He told me to login on my webmail account, and click somwhere to apply for a 25 port unblock
[14:39] <zicada> really ?
[14:40] <AshTray-> Yeah
[14:40] <zicada> you can toggle 25block from your webmail interface ?
[14:40] <zicada> neat
[14:40] <Fenix|work> Greetings
[14:43] <AshTray-> LOL
[14:43] <AshTray-> If I login :)) It smashes in my face "UMBLOCK SMTP"
[14:44] <AshTray-> UNBLOCK
[14:44] <zicada> doh
[14:44] <zicada> never heard of an ISP that did it like that tho
[14:44] <zicada> why block 25 when you can just do that
[14:44] <zicada> odd
[14:45] <zicada> i guess they figure the njubs who are stupid enough to get horrible malware that spams port 25 arent clever enough to log into webmail
[14:45] <AshTray-> They is it's not necesarly to umblock the 25 port. I can use smtp.rdslink.ro
[14:45] <zicada> :D
[14:45] <zicada> ah, figured
[14:46] <AshTray-> And they also say I have to give them a good motiv to umblock that port :)))))))))))
[14:46] <AshTray-> unblock*
[14:46] <Fenix|work> zicada, AshTray- my home ISP blocks all port 25 connections to any mail server execpt their own...
[14:47] <AshTray-> Interesting ports on smtp.rdslink.ro (193.231.236.97):
[14:47] <AshTray-> 25/tcp open  smtp
[14:47] <Fenix|work> ... I asked them 'why?' and their response was malware that tries to mass-mail with their own SMTP engines
[14:47] <Fenix|work> which is like... sooooo 90's :)
[14:49] <AshTray-> Anyway what's the point of mass-mailing ? Anyway most of the people don't read that shit....
[14:50] <AshTray-> Works now! :D
[14:50] <AshTray-> It's been a long that.
[14:50] <AshTray-> day*
[14:51] <AshTray-> Now the spam-assasin shit...
[14:53] <zicada> hehe
[14:54] <Fenix|work> I like SPF... would just wish other mail admins would implement it faster
[14:54] <Fenix|work> ... and configure their mail servers correctly... grrrr
[14:55] <Fenix|work> say... anyone know how to ignore socket files with tar?
[14:56] <Fenix|work> I'm trying to do a backup of / with some excluded directories... but there are a couple of socket files that are in different places and I get emailed ... tar: /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock: socket ignored
[14:56] <Fenix|work> really a waste of an email from cron
[14:57] <zicada> best mailserver i ever ran was this qmail+vpopmail one on an old gentoo box
[14:57] <zicada> was up for like 3 years
[14:57] <zicada> never had a single issue
[14:58] <Fenix|work> Gentoo goodness ... compiling from source not so goodness
[14:59] <nomingzi> with VMware server 2.0 virtual machine created for Ubuntu Server 8.10 x86 and the installation no responding at "Configuring apt" with status of "Scanning the mirror"... http://picpaste.com/aaaaa.jpg - please advise, how to fix
[15:02] <Fenix|work> nomingzi, it's not VMware Server... it's actually scanning the mirror... and most likely a slow mirror... I always have the install hang at 20% 'Scanning the mirror' and have to wait for around 10 minutes
[15:02] <Fenix|work> afterwards, I switch to better mirrors :)
[15:04] <nomingzi> Fenix|work: My computer do not have any Mirror/RAID configuration.
[15:04] <Fenix|work> nomingzi, wrong type of mirror.  It's scanning the packages mirror somewhere on the internet.
[15:06] <nomingzi> Fenix|work: How do I change the mirror sites to a fast link, prior to the installation ?
[15:06] <Fenix|work> prior... I don't think you can...
[15:06] <Fenix|work> you have to wait it out
[15:06] <Fenix|work> afterwards you can modify /etc/apt/sources.list to a more local mirror that is fast.
[15:07] <nomingzi> Fenix|work: oh...no... anyway, thanks for your guidance.
[15:07] <Fenix|work> how long has it been 'Scanning the mirror'?
[15:08] <nomingzi> Fenix|work: I think now should be more than 15 minutes :-(
[15:10] <zicada> hehe sup AshTray-
[15:31] <AshTray-> Damn.. internet cracked :|
[15:33] <AshTray-> Off making food. Thanks zicada.
[15:36] <zicada> np
[15:36] <zicada> marry xmas
[15:37] <zicada> merry too
[15:37] <zicada> off to continue making foods
[17:36] <LeeQ> HALP!! I broke my GRUB!
[17:36] <LeeQ> I don't know how I did it, but not I am trying to fix it and grub is telling me that it can't mount my partition
[18:08] <keithclark>  I seem to be having trouble sharing directories/files over samba.  I make the directory shareable and my other user on another computer can see the directory.  They are promted for a username and password and they use the ones that I set up on the host computer but it still does not allow them access.
[18:09] <keithclark> Not sure what I'm doing wrong here.
[18:09] <keithclark> Oh yeah, these are both Ubuntu 8.10 machines
[18:13] <sommer> keithclark: are the user's on the host computer setup for Samba?  if not you can use the "smbpasswd -a username" command to add the user's to the Samba database
[18:15] <keithclark> sommer, thanks, trying that now.
[18:18] <keithclark> sommer, thanks!  Perfect.  Still learning here.
[18:23] <sommer> keithclark: np
[18:35] <LeeQ> ok, I'm getting a geub error 17
[18:35] <LeeQ> grub*
[18:36] <LeeQ> \when I boot from a live cd to fix grub
[18:36] <LeeQ> it tells me it can't mount the drive
[18:37] <LeeQ> and I am stuck
[20:11] <danielm_mc> yo
[20:11] <danielm_mc> how do you tell if ubuntu server needs a reboot after updating?
[20:12] <Nafallo> danielm_mc: https://launchpad.net/screen-profiles <-- that's coming soon :-)
[20:13] <danielm_mc> hah, nice
[20:13] <danielm_mc> looks like top
[20:13] <Nafallo> well, yea. it is.
[20:13] <danielm_mc> i just updated a server and nagios is still screaming that there are updates for it
[20:13] <Nafallo> I was more about the rest of it ;-)
[20:13] <danielm_mc> lol, nice
[20:13] <Nafallo> the colorful stuff at the bottom of the screen
[20:14] <danielm_mc> ahh
[20:14] <danielm_mc> small picture
[20:14] <Nafallo> yea :-/
[20:14] <Nafallo> http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2008/12/ubuntu-server-includes-window-manager.html <-- danielm_mc
[20:15] <danielm_mc> oh nice
[21:02] <MatBoy> what can be wrong when the nvidia X server settings don't see my second graphical card ?