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LaserJockwhat's the best channel for debugging? #ubuntu-bugs or #ubuntu ?03:34
RAOFLaserJock: Probably #ubuntu-bugs; higher signal/noise.  Also, merry Christmas.04:16
Hobbseemerry christmas all / <insert other holiday greetings here>07:18
NCommanderThanks Hobbsee07:19
Hobbseeanything interesting happening?07:22
pwnguinkernel .28 is officially released07:24
NCommanderHobbsee, I have kdebase-workspace building on ARM?07:24
Hobbseeoh, score!07:25
Hobbseedoes it actually build?07:25
NCommanderIts building debs at the moment07:25
NCommanderthe actual source bit built fine07:25
Riddellyay07:26
NCommanderRiddell, if you feel like sponsoring :-)?07:29
IntuitiveNippleShould a build-depends "liba-dev | libb-dev" cause "apt-get build-dep source-package" to succeed if libb-dev is installed? Currently I'm seeing "Package liba-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package". Deb Policy 7.1 says an OR (|) should be satisfied by either. (package mythtv, liblame-dev failing - not present since hardy)09:37
persiaIntuitiveNipple, It should indeed succeed, although it may be that the specific algorithm used by apt-get build-depends would benefit from checking.09:44
IntuitiveNippleyeah... I've never seen this before... annoying, as all I need is to install the -dev packages so I can test a new mythtv package I've created with pulseaudio support!09:45
IntuitiveNippleDo you think editing the current control file in /var/dpkg/whereever would 'hack' it09:46
persiaJust don't use apt-get build-dep to do it.  Just install things manually.09:47
IntuitiveNippleI know... the long-winded way I was trying to avoid!09:47
IntuitiveNippleI'm modifying the new package control file to fix this09:48
persiaOr use pbuilder or sbuild :)09:48
persiaDoesn't matter.  apt-get build-dep depends on the current apt cache, rather than on the contents of the files.09:48
IntuitiveNippleI would but, I'm not on the development PC, I'm on the home theatre projector system09:48
IntuitiveNippleAhhh, so I shan't hack that now, it'll mess this PC up09:49
IntuitiveNipplethanks09:49
cjwatsonanyone know whether these new packages should be synced from Debian? kbfx kde-style-comix kde-style-domino kde-style-klearlook kde-style-lipstik kde-style-polyester kde-style-serenity kdmtheme kwin-decor-suse2 kwin-style-dekorator kwin-style-knifty kwin-style-powder tastymenu11:14
cjwatsonnormally I'd just do it but I know we have active KDE packaging work ...11:15
* Hobbsee wonders if those are kde3 or kde4 bits11:16
StevenKThat can probably be determined with grep-dctrl11:17
StevenKI'd look if I wasn't about to get pulled back into family card games11:17
cjwatsonwe're about to go and open presents, so I'll be on and off11:17
StevenKHmm. At 11am? Bit late, isn't it?11:18
StevenK:-P11:18
cjwatsonmidnight mass => late rising11:18
StevenKFair point :-)11:18
cjwatsonHobbsee: all seem to be KDE3, at least judging from the kdelibs4* dependencies11:24
cjwatsonso I'll not worry too much about them11:24
cjwatson(unless I should)11:24
Hobbseecjwatson: i don't think so11:28
Hobbseecjwatson: from what I understand, we don't distribute kde3 itself anymore, only (some) of the apps.11:29
Hobbseeso the windecos definetly shouldn't be needed.11:29
StevenKWhich are getting removal bugs filed on them left, right and centre?11:30
Hobbseei've not tracked that closely, tbh11:33
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rudchenkosHi there17:39
rudchenkosI have patch for LP#292536, could anyone help me to check it in?17:40
rudchenkosdoh, it's Christmas :)17:41
Nafallohttp://isitchristmas.com/17:45
rudchenkos:)17:49
LaserJockrudchenkos: you can attach the patch to the bug report17:50
rudchenkosLaserJock: yep, done17:50
rudchenkosLaserJock: nothing more is necessary? it's really tiny17:50
LaserJockbug #29253617:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 292536 in ubuntu "Sticky notes prefereces dialog closes on toggling check boxes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29253617:51
LaserJockrudchenkos: that bug needs to be against the right package17:57
LaserJockI guess gnome-applets17:58
rudchenkosLaserJock: ok, I'm editing the bug17:59
rudchenkossure17:59
rudchenkoswhat status should I assign now?17:59
rudchenkosassign to me?17:59
LaserJockConfirmed or Triaged17:59
LaserJockwell, you've done your part, you don't need to be assigned17:59
nhandlerConfirmed would probably be better, since it already has a patch18:00
LaserJocknot Triaged?18:00
nhandlerLaserJock: Triaged is for bugs that have all of the information needed for a Developer to prepare a patch. This bug already has a patch, it just needs to be sponsored18:01
LaserJockrudchenkos: you can then subscribe the ubuntu-main-sponsors team so they know18:01
nhandlerFor bugs with a patch that need to be sponsored, you should set it to Confirmed18:01
LaserJocknhandler: hmm, that seems sort of counter-intuitive18:01
nhandlerLaserJock: In what way?18:01
LaserJockTriaged seems like "this is ready for action"18:02
LaserJockand higher in hierarchy than Confirmed18:02
* rudchenkos looks at LaserJock and nhandler :)18:03
rudchenkosoh, that's easy: there is no "Triaged" choice18:04
nhandlerLaserJock: The issue is, only people in Bug Control can set a status of Triaged18:04
LaserJockrudchenkos: I'll defer to nhandler as he's new hotness ;-)18:04
LaserJocknhandler: which I consider a bug18:04
nhandlerLaserJock: Personally, so do I. But you'll need to take that up with the Launchpad devs18:04
rudchenkosif somebody wants to try: https://launchpad.net/~sergey.rudchenko/+archive18:09
nhandlerCould someone help me hunt down a package in Deiban? The Ubuntu changelog says that it came from Debian unstable. However, rmadison showed no output for the package in Debian, packages.debian.org couldn't find it, and there was no PTS page. Even stranger, it was not listed as being removed in the removal list.18:10
LaserJocknhandler: what package?18:10
nhandlerLaserJock: kreetingkard18:10
nhandlerhttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kreetingkard18:11
LaserJockgood grief, can those people *not* use "k" once in a while ;-)18:11
Nafallohaha18:11
LaserJocknhandler: my guess is that it's not from Debian, but rather just imported from somewhere else (kde-apps.org perhaps?)18:13
nhandlerLaserJock: That is what I was thinking, but the changelog entries say 'unstable'. I didn't think we could sync from places other than Debian18:14
crimsunthe distribution field is nondefinitive for non-canonical (Debian/Ubuntu) source packages.18:15
LaserJockexactly18:15
LaserJocknhandler: it just means somebody put "unstable" as the target, it doesn't mean it actually came from Debian18:15
nhandlerBut then what about the version number? Shouldn't it have a Debian revision of 0?18:16
crimsunnot everyone uses proper/accepted versioning practices18:16
LaserJockalso we may have imported it with the version that the source had18:17
LaserJockit was done for dapper so it could have been at a time when we were grabbing packages from other sources18:17
kolbydoes anyone here know how to use libxml2 ?18:21
kolbyWhat function do I use to convert a char to a xmlChar ?18:23
NCommandernhandler, if the package was removed in Debian before Dapper, rmadison won't know about it18:23
NCommander(or, should I say, removed from stable w/ sarge)18:23
Chipzz~..19:09
directhexhm. who do i file a bug against if i can't connect to the father in law's wifi under intrepid, but it works under vista (and my home wifi works)20:14
ion_The father in law.20:15
cpufreakD20:20
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cjwatsonkolby: xmlChar is just a typedef to unsigned char, so if it's just a single character then you could just cast it; if it's a string then you might want to look at functions like xmlCharStrdup in xmlstring.h, but it rather depends on what you're doing ...21:31
cjwatsonkolby: (I don't actually know libxml2 especially well myself - just looking at the header files)21:32
kolbythank you21:33
kolbycjwatson, That helped a lot.21:34
kolbywhat's an easy networking library for starters?  Maybe libcurl?21:45
ebroderDepends on what you're trying to do. The easy interface for libcurl is pretty straightforward21:48
directhexi ought to try connecting with the wife's laptop. diff chip - would isolate a driver issue23:13

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