| persia | Jpdota, The default classpath for dependent libraries oughtn't change just because the JRE changes. | 07:23 |
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| persia | Just make sure you have the dependencies correct. | 07:24 |
| Jpdota | i do have the dependencies correct :-/ | 07:24 |
| Jpdota | i've been playing around with this problem for two days now and haven't come to a solution | 07:24 |
| persia | On which packages are you depending? | 07:25 |
| Jpdota | hsqldb and jpcap | 07:25 |
| Jpdota | jpcap isn't packaged in ubuntu, but i installed the deb, and i moved the jar to /usr/share/java | 07:25 |
| Jpdota | but hsqldb is giving me the error | 07:25 |
| Jpdota | jpcap may too, the program doesnt get that far in its execution | 07:26 |
| persia | You might want to look at the entagged package, which relies on hsqldb. | 07:27 |
| Jpdota | entagged? | 07:27 |
| persia | Yep. It's just an audio file tagger, but since it's packaged and relies on hsqldb, it might contain the hint you need. | 07:27 |
| Jpdota | ah ok | 07:28 |
| Jpdota | awesome let me take a look at that one | 07:28 |
| persia | Good luck. | 07:28 |
| Jpdota | persia: it's strange, the only mention of hsqldb is it assigns it to a variable which is never used, and the classpath is set using only squareness.jar, but not hsqldb.jar | 07:33 |
| Jpdota | ah it lists hsqldb.jar in the MANIFEST, but im not sure how that would resolve | 07:34 |
| Jpdota | one second i'll try doing that in my program | 07:34 |
| Jpdota | persia: hmm no such luck with that :( | 07:39 |
| persia | So, the problem is that when you run your program, it's not finding the jar? | 07:40 |
| Jpdota | correct | 07:40 |
| Jpdota | could it have something to do with hsqldb.jar being numbered with a version? | 07:40 |
| Jpdota | what i mean is, in /usr/share/java hsqldb.jar is just a link to hsqldb-1.8.0.9.jar | 07:41 |
| persia | I would have thought that would work. | 07:41 |
| persia | As far as I understand things, symlinks get parsed before they are handed to the program, when an open request is made. | 07:42 |
| persia | So opening /usr/share/java/hsqldb.jar ought to open hsqldb-1.8.0.9.jar. | 07:42 |
| Jpdota | right, but could the file having a different name matter? | 07:42 |
| Jpdota | i'm not sure how java does its loading | 07:42 |
| persia | I don't think it does, but I don't know. | 07:43 |
| Jpdota | hmm do you want to take a look at what im working with? see if im doing something stupid? this is the first package if packaged for ubuntu/debian | 07:44 |
| persia | Sure. Post it somewhere. I can't promise to see the problem though. | 07:45 |
| Jpdota | http://jwc3banlist.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/jwc3banlist/trunk/debian/ <-- link to the svn for the debian directory | 07:45 |
| persia | I'll recommend using install rather than mkdir -p followed by cp -R | 07:46 |
| persia | You might also want to look at dh_install, which lets you just make a list. | 07:47 |
| Jpdota | ah ok | 07:47 |
| persia | Of course, that's completely unrelated to your issue :) | 07:47 |
| Jpdota | right, but any advice is of course appreciated :P | 07:47 |
| persia | Also, drop debian/dirs : you don't need it. | 07:47 |
| persia | And debian/files should almost never be present | 07:48 |
| Jpdota | gotcha, i think they autogenerated and i just didn't delete them | 07:49 |
| persia | I've never been a fan of the autogeneration. | 07:49 |
| Jpdota | me neither, but i was just following the instructions :P | 07:49 |
| persia | Also, you want Architecture: all rather than any for this: you only need to compile it once: the jvm should take care of portability. | 07:49 |
| Jpdota | ok | 07:50 |
| persia | Oh, I'm a fan of autogeneration in general: I just don't like any of the current autogenerators for debian-format packaging. | 07:50 |
| persia | Your docs file is empty, and can be dropped. | 07:50 |
| Jpdota | i tend to dislike it when it's something i'll eventually have to edit, because it usually makes things confusing | 07:51 |
| persia | That's unfortunately true. Sometimes one gets autogenerators that match one's style, but it's hard to find one. | 07:51 |
| Jpdota | yeah exactly | 07:52 |
| persia | Looks to me like you could do most of what you're doing with debhelper 5 or 6, and don't need debhelper 7 (you're not using dh $@). | 07:52 |
| Jpdota | $@? | 07:53 |
| persia | Have you tried adding libhsqldb-java to Build-Depends-Indep? I wonder if something is happening at compile time if the package is absent. | 07:53 |
| Jpdota | nope, i'll try it | 07:54 |
| persia | $@ is an automatic variable in make that represents the current rule name. debian/rules is a makefile. | 07:54 |
| Jpdota | ah | 07:54 |
| persia | Also, please be sure that your procedure for building the release version of bancraft doesn't include the debian/ directory. Having that in the diff.gz file is a widely accepted standard practice, and makes it easier if someone wants to package it for other distributions. | 07:55 |
| persia | Nothing wrong with having it in your VCS, but be aware that once it's in a repo, there will likely be growing variance between your copy and the version in any given distro. | 07:56 |
| Jpdota | yeah | 07:57 |
| Jpdota | true | 07:57 |
| Jpdota | "I have no package to build" from a bunch of the dh's? | 08:00 |
| persia | hrm? | 08:01 |
| Jpdota | from changing the libhsqldb-java to a Build-Depend-Indep and the architecture to all | 08:01 |
| persia | I wasn't suggesting you switch to dh7, only reduce your requirements. How ar you calling the build? | 08:02 |
| Jpdota | debuild or do you mean the compile? | 08:02 |
| persia | debuild | 08:02 |
| Jpdota | just debuild | 08:02 |
| Jpdota | it's strange, the program compiles and installs then when it gets to the dh_testdir -a it starts saying it has no package to build | 08:04 |
| persia | Right. Change -a to -i in binary-indep | 08:05 |
| Jpdota | ah :X | 08:05 |
| persia | binary-arch is supposed to be arch-dependent, and use -a, binary-indep is supposed to be arch-independent, and use -i. Sorry for not mentioning this previously. | 08:06 |
| Jpdota | no problem, i should have rtfm :P | 08:07 |
| Jpdota | testing different classpaths to see if they work | 08:09 |
| Jpdota | the one like entagged has doesn't work | 08:09 |
| Jpdota | unless maybe they make a link one sec | 08:09 |
| Jpdota | hmm that doesn't seem to have fixed it | 08:11 |
| Jpdota | i'm so confused, looking at entagged didn't yield anything, im going to see if there's other packages | 08:11 |
| persia | apt-cache rdepends hsqldb-java provides a short list, unfortunately. | 08:12 |
| Jpdota | wow, yeah | 08:12 |
| Jpdota | and i looked at openoffice, whew.... | 08:13 |
| persia | And you've already looked at openoffice, right? | 08:13 |
| persia | But your program works unpackaged? | 08:13 |
| Jpdota | i've looked at openoffice, and i don't understand it at all, way too much "stuff" | 08:14 |
| persia | Yeah. That's a disturbingly complex package. | 08:14 |
| Jpdota | yep | 08:14 |
| persia | You might try #debian-java@OFTC, but dunno how many people will be there: most of the regulars here aren't present today. | 08:14 |
| Jpdota | i see..hmm | 08:15 |
| Jpdota | wow there's basically nothing that uses hsqldb | 08:15 |
| Jpdota | itself, entagged, and oo.org | 08:16 |
| persia | On the bright side, that's a small set of stuff to investigate to find a solution :) | 08:19 |
| Jpdota | true, however there's hardly any mention of hsqldb in entagged | 08:19 |
| persia | But it does use it at runtime, doesn't it? | 08:20 |
| Jpdota | entagged? | 08:21 |
| persia | yes. | 08:21 |
| Jpdota | i would assume so, it requires it | 08:21 |
| persia | That matches my previous understanding, that as long as the dependencies are correct, it ought to work. | 08:21 |
| persia | You shouldn't have to do much to be able to use the library. | 08:22 |
| Jpdota | yeah | 08:22 |
| Jpdota | i thought that too | 08:22 |
| Jpdota | have you packaged a java application? | 08:24 |
| persia | Nope. Reviewed some packages. Fixed a few bugs, but not packaged anything. | 08:24 |
| Jpdota | ah ok | 08:25 |
| Jpdota | it shouldn't matter that the program is run as root right? | 08:31 |
| persia | Shouldn't, although running stuff as root is generally dangerous. | 08:32 |
| Jpdota | i guess not, even run as a regular user, it doesn't work | 08:32 |
| Jpdota | yeah i know, it needs to be, it uses libpcap (through jpca) | 08:32 |
| Jpdota | jpcap) | 08:32 |
| persia | And it does work with your program just there, unpackaged? | 08:32 |
| Jpdota | hmm | 08:32 |
| Jpdota | let me check that the jar it's trying to use works correctly | 08:32 |
| Jpdota | well it's making the jar anyway but yeah | 08:33 |
| Jpdota | hmm one sec trying something that may work | 08:39 |
| Jpdota | nope | 08:52 |
| Jpdota | well persia thanks for the help, i didn't gain any traction on it so i guess i'll come back after the holidays | 09:26 |
| persia | Sorry I couldn't be more help. Good luck with it. | 09:31 |
| Jpdota | persia no problem you helped a lot thanks | 09:35 |
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