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Zharfhi, does kubuntu livecd come with k3b?00:02
popcornPanichi i just installed kde in ubuntu. I have a second monitor plugged in. how do it make the monitor extend instead of clone my original monitor00:41
ruhaan_jslipis there a way to cap HDD usage for a specifc user in kubuntu?00:46
Jonty_why can't I install katapult? what has it been replaced with?00:49
DragnslcrJonty_- the regular run dialog (alt-F2) has a lot of the features of katapult now00:54
m4vJonty_: i think is krunner00:55
m4vyeah, that's right00:55
Jonty_m4v: ohhh00:58
Jonty_cheers00:58
Jonty_Dragnslcr too. Thanks.00:59
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prometheus77everytime i go "back" with konquer from a subdirectory to my "home" directory, it never returns like it was before, it always returns one row lower( i always have to scroll up to see the top line each time i go back) HOW DO I FIX THIS CRAP?01:08
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JohnFluxprometheus77: kde4?01:08
JohnFluxprometheus77: i can't replicate the problem01:09
prometheus77kde 3.4.2?01:09
JohnFluxprometheus77: oh.  an old version of kubuntu?01:09
prometheus77no?01:09
prometheus77i am just not using kde 401:10
prometheus77whatever the latest kde3.x is01:10
JohnFluxprometheus77: ah.  well... kde4 version doesn't have the bug :-)01:10
JohnFluxprometheus77: you could file a bug report  (bugs.kde.org)01:10
prometheus77k :(01:10
JohnFluxprometheus77: but not sure if it would be fixed.  not many developers use kde3 anymore01:10
JohnFluxprometheus77: or you could switch to kde4 :-)  kde 4.2 is out soon, and it's pretty stable01:11
cuzntprometheus do you have dolphin kde4 installed?>01:11
prometheus77cuznt:  probably01:11
cuznttry using that instead01:12
prometheus77i might restart into kde4 to see if it is same bug also01:12
cuznti think i had that before01:12
prometheus77i just hate the feeel of dolphin, it reminds me of gnome....... where did the tabs go in dolphin?01:13
cuzntgood point01:13
cuzntand what is the red - or the green + mean?01:14
cuzntwhen you click on the folder01:14
Tinasonmerry christmas01:15
JohnFluxprometheus77: kde4 has konqueror as well01:15
JohnFluxprometheus77: dolphin has tabs01:15
Tinasonhow does one start a vnc server in kubuntu 8.10?01:16
prometheus77dolphin has tabs? prove it lol, i just tried and nothing01:16
Tinasondolphin tabs: ctrl-shift-n01:17
JohnFluxprometheus77: well in kde4 it does01:17
JohnFluxFile->New tab01:17
JohnFluxi think the kde3 version doesn't01:17
prometheus77i must have the kde version01:18
prometheus77so strange01:18
JohnFluxTinason: Add install software01:18
JohnFluxTinason: type in 'vnc'01:18
prometheus77JohnFlux: how do i unstall kde3?01:18
popcornPanici have kubuntu and two monitors. how do i make the second monitor extend the other instead of cloning?01:21
JohnFluxprometheus77: maybe easiest to just get a 8.10 CD and upgrade?01:22
prometheus77also i just try to install gnome and it says "install(BREAKS)01:22
JohnFluxprometheus77: do: cat /etc/issue01:23
JohnFluxprometheus77: what does that say?01:23
prometheus77k01:26
prometheus77Ubuntu 8.04.1 \n \l01:26
prometheus77how to did i upgrade without doing a full reinstall?01:27
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cherry2000hola02:12
cherry2000hi02:13
cherry2000i need a download counter program02:13
ahi02:19
DaSkreechcherry2000: What?02:22
DaSkreech!hi02:22
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!02:22
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kurumin__oi02:42
kurumin__alguem ai02:42
kurumin__????????????????02:42
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DaSkreech!pt02:48
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.02:48
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rogue780I'm trying to enable my ATI drivers, but when I click the activate button it just grays out and hangs until I close it. can anyone help me?03:24
DaSkreech!ati03:25
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:25
calamarihi03:30
DaSkreech!hi03:31
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!03:31
calamaritried to boot the kubuntu intrepid desktop cd.. it gets all the way to the kde 4.1 splash and freezes after the 4th activity "icon" is displayed.. ctrl-alt-f1 (etc) are not effective, however the mouse pointer moves.. any ideas ?03:33
DaSkreechcalamari: tried safe vdeo mode?03:34
calamarino I haven't03:34
calamarithanks.. that's a good idea03:35
White_Pelicanin kde 4.2 under intrepid, I notice that the (what I call the) taskbar is now blue. I also noticed that when you do mouse overs on the icons, it's white text on a black background.  How do I change the black background?03:36
White_Pelicanis anyone here to answer my question?03:45
p_quarles!ask | White_Pelican03:45
ubottuWhite_Pelican: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)03:45
White_PelicanI already asked03:45
p_quarlesso you did03:45
p_quarlesWhite_Pelican: so you're asking how to change the taskbar preview background color, correct?03:46
White_Pelicancorrect03:48
p_quarlesokay, well, I haven't seen a GUI option for changing that, but it should be an attribute of the Plasma theme you're using.03:48
p_quarlesso, hypoethically, if you can find where the themes are stored, you could change it; hint: it's not in /usr/share/kde4/config03:50
White_Pelicanok, how do I actually change the themes? I am very new to kde 403:51
White_Pelicanhave been using kde 3 for years03:51
p_quarlesWhite_Pelican: I'm saying that I really don't know03:51
White_Pelicanok, that's fair03:51
DaSkreechWhite_Pelican: I think change the theme03:51
White_Pelicanty for trying03:51
p_quarlesI'm working on the assumption that there is an XML or text file somewhere that defines theme attributes03:52
DaSkreechWhite_Pelican: Right click the desktop -> appearance Settings -> theme03:52
p_quarlesif I stumble across such a thing, i'll let you know; otherwise, someone here probably knows, but may be idling at the moment03:52
p_quarlesDaSkreech: you can change the theme, but there is no tool for customizing the themes there03:53
DaSkreechAh that's what's needed? yeah probably have to hand roll ot for now03:53
p_quarlessuch things are usually in the /usr/share/ area of the filesystem, but I couldn't find it on a quick look; I'm sure it's there somewhere though03:55
DaSkreechMost likely in ~/.kde/share/apps03:56
p_quarlesno, that would store files owned by the user -- we're looking for something that would be shared by all users on the system, so it would not be in anyone's home directory03:56
DaSkreechWhite_Pelican: Are we?03:59
White_PelicanI just want to, through some kind of control settings, to be able to change themes04:01
DaSkreechDon't think there are control schemes yet04:08
lkingzinhello. i have a intel MacBook. What's the easiest way to run kubuntu?04:09
White_Pelicanthanks for all your help folks04:09
White_Pelicanlittle by little, kde 4 is getting there04:09
p_quarlesWhite_Pelican: sorry I could offer more; maybe look at kde-look.org for hints04:10
p_quarlescouldn't* :)04:10
DaSkreechlkingzin: From a LIve Cd04:10
lkingzindashreech: thanks... will none of the downloads from the website work?04:10
p_quarleslkingzin: that *is* a download from the web site . . .04:11
DaSkreechlkingzin: The downloads from the website is a Live Cd04:11
lkingzinah04:11
lkingzinso for my Intel Macbook, I would select Kunbuntu 8.10, and then a 54bit AMD and Intel computers04:12
lkingzinthen download?04:12
lkingzin54 = 6404:12
aceРусские есть?04:12
DaSkreech!ru04:12
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke04:12
lkingzinDaSkreech: whats that?04:13
DaSkreechlkingzin: If you wanted the 54 Bit edition04:13
DaSkreech;-)04:13
DaSkreech32 bit or 64 bit is a matter of choice04:13
lkingzinlol. would the "standard personal computer" download work04:13
lkingzinon my macbook?04:14
p_quarlesyes04:14
DaSkreechYes04:14
legodudeI have a problem where wine crashes X when I try to switch to fullscreen04:14
lkingzinsweeeet04:15
DaSkreechKnown issue. Should be fixed (hopefully) by  Jaunty04:15
lkingzinthat should be somewhere in the faq page, didn't see it though04:15
legodudeDaSkreech: my issue?04:15
DaSkreechYes04:16
legodudeis it in launchpad?04:16
DaSkreechIf you have an Intel Mac then you are alright04:16
legodudegrrrr04:18
legodudeseems modesetting messes up the xserver04:19
legodudegrrrr04:22
lkingzin_okay i have another Q -- can i somehow put the .ISO file onto a thumb drive and boot from that?04:23
bazhang!usb04:23
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent04:23
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White_Pelicandoes anyone know how to set up the weather station widgit in 4.204:29
White_Pelican?04:29
DaSkreechNope :(04:30
White_Pelicanoh well, embryonic stages04:30
* DaSkreech hands genii spiced coffee liqueur04:31
geniiDaSkreech: Yay!04:31
DaSkreechWhite_Pelican: No it was working in Beta 1  I think it just got a bad week in Beta 204:31
DaSkreechhappened to get caught at a non working stage04:31
White_Pelicanah04:32
White_Pelicanwell I am starting to like it but will not switch till 4.2 is official04:32
White_Pelicanthe good news is, it's starting to do what I could do in 3.504:32
White_Pelicansave for some things like themes04:33
White_PelicanI don't think the average user is going to want to fiddle with a text file in their .kde folder imho04:33
geniiI'm still on 8.04/3.5.10 for this lappie for now04:34
DragnslcrI just installed the 4.2 beta today. Very impressed so far04:35
DragnslcrTwo of the things at the top of my list have been fixed04:35
DragnslcrAnd the updated version of phonon fixed my knotify crashes04:38
DaSkreechWhat were the top two?04:46
DaSkreechDragnslcr: ?04:49
DragnslcrQuicklaunch widget and multiple rows in the taskbar04:50
legodudehow stable is the beat 4.2?04:54
legodudeand, will it nicely upgrade when the official 4.2 comes out?04:54
DaSkreechWasn't quick launch in 4.1?04:56
DaSkreechlegodude: Good and yes04:56
legodudeis there a good document somewhere that gives a general overview of ubuntu package environment?04:57
legodudeand how it all interacts?04:57
legodudecan I easily undo 4.2 if I don't like it?04:57
DaSkreech!apt04:57
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)04:57
DaSkreechlegodude: Fairly04:58
legodudethat's not really what I'm looking for04:59
DaSkreechwhat were you looking for?04:59
legodudehow are packages created, what about branches, how does one properly track changes to a package05:00
legodudemostly the second one05:00
DaSkreech!motu05:00
ubottumotu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU05:00
DaSkreechBranches?05:00
legodudesome developer puts up a new version of package X on his private repo05:01
legodudeor this beta 4.205:01
legodudehow exactly does this interact with the official package stream05:01
DaSkreechright05:01
legodudeI've never gotten a good feel for that05:01
DaSkreechThere is a version number on  each package05:01
DaSkreechHighest number wins05:01
bazhang!ppa05:01
ubottuWith Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart.05:01
legodudeah05:01
legodudegot it05:02
legodudethought there was something more to it05:02
legodudewhat about package creation?05:02
DaSkreechSo if you add a new repo then it has a higher version number and when your package manager goes through them all the new repo wins and the packages are upgraded05:03
legodudebazhang: thanks for that link05:03
DaSkreechI don't understand the last question either05:03
bazhangtry /msg ubottu packaging05:04
corigo2Ok, so finally am able to get Skype to hear my microphone, but the level and boost have to be so high that all I can hear is the sound from my own microphone and can't hardly hear anything else. Is there anyway to stop the microphone feeding back through the speakers/05:04
corigo2?05:04
legodudeupgrade to 4.2 almost done05:21
DaSkreechhow do you like it?05:29
legodude4.205:31
DaSkreechhow do you like it legodude ?05:31
legodudesoooo much nicer05:31
legodudethis is ridiculous05:31
legodudenothing major from my extensive 3min experience05:32
legodudebut attention to detail is so much better05:32
legodudejesus05:32
legodudewow05:32
legodudeI'm really impressed05:33
DaSkreech:-D05:33
legodudesome stuff is still funky, like my volume buttons don't do anything to amarok sounds05:34
legodudebut overall _much_ nicer05:34
legodudelike, if I put a window under the panel, I can still read app names05:34
legodudejaunty looks to be what I hoped intrepid would be05:36
legodudeseems faster?05:36
DaSkreechMight be can't judge till Jauny comes out05:37
legodudecan't resize app launcher boo05:37
legodudemy icons in system tray display properly05:38
legodudenot all corrupted as before05:38
DaSkreechMenu resizes here05:39
legodudeah you can only grab upper right corner05:39
DaSkreechyep05:46
legodudeexcept for some borked widgets05:47
legodudeseems pretty darn nice05:47
legodudeimpressive with a capital K05:49
legodudeI take back the evil thoughts I have been having recently05:50
legodudealright, thanks for the advice and nite05:53
DaSkreechlegodude: Which borked widgets?05:59
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scandunehi06:36
p_quarles!hello | scandune06:37
ubottuscandune: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!06:37
scandunebots?06:37
p_quarlesI'm not, ubottu is06:37
scanduneah i see06:37
p_quarlesscandune: did you have a support question? :)06:38
scandunenope just really bored06:38
scandunewell actually i might06:38
scandunewhen i leave my laptop on and then i use the web sometimes my panel buttons and desktop icons fail to work so i have to hard restart06:39
scandunegot nothin?06:40
p_quarleshard restart? meaning that the system is totally unresponsive?06:40
scanduneyeah06:40
scandunewell unresponsive to new programs06:40
p_quarlescan you log out of X?06:40
scandunenew meaning starting a new session06:40
scandunenope i cant even get into my terminal :(06:41
p_quarlesscandune: what have you specifically tried? ctrl-alt-backspace? ctrl-alt-F2?06:41
scanduneyeah06:41
scandunesorry about that lost my internet06:42
p_quarlesscandune: so, is there anything that you *can* do at that point?06:42
scandunewell if someone messages me on pidgin i can type back06:43
scandunebut thats about it06:43
scanduneit will let me click on my panel buttons and it will initiale but it will fail06:44
p_quarlesscandune: well, that's definitely a weird one; don't know what to tell you other than to scan your logs for any hints06:45
tupachttps://gnud.wordpress.com/ about ubuntu06:45
p_quarlesscandune: if I had to place money, I'd say it's the video chips06:45
scandunemaybe its the dell mini 9 so i would have thought it would have been ok06:46
scandunebut they did mess with the programming a lil bit06:46
p_quarleshmm -- well then it might be defective; I'd take it up with Dell06:46
p_quarlesI mean, you have a system that actually shipped with Ubuntu -- take advantage of that :)06:47
scandunei know06:47
scanduneone of the reasons why i got it06:47
scanduneplus it was only 50006:47
scandunei tried installing other distros on it, but the sound never worked06:48
scandunestupid alsa06:48
scanduneanother ? is my package manager list always seems to be old meaning i check for new versions but it always reverts back06:50
p_quarlesscandune: for instance?06:51
scanduneit appears in my panel06:52
scanduneto update my list06:52
scandunei click check06:52
scanduneand then it still says its 8 days old06:52
p_quarlesI mean an example of a package that says it needs updating, but then isn't06:52
scandunei also did it in terninal06:52
scandunesame deal06:52
scandunena its just checking the list to see if there is an update available06:53
p_quarlesscandune: so it says there is, but there isn't? I'm not understanding06:56
scandune??07:02
scandunesays would you like to check07:02
scanduneso i check and it says my lists are 8 days old so it d/l new ones then reverts back to old07:02
v-doggmorning07:06
p_quarlesscandune: so you run apt-get update and it does the same thing? sounds like your system is pretty broken; don't know what to say07:07
v-doggI installed a fresh 8.10 installation (with kde 4.1). KDE apps keep crashing and I'm wondering if I could get rid of this by using KDE 3.5?07:08
v-doggcan I easily downgrade to 3.5 or should I just re-install the system (I've been using this for a day now and have installed a bunch of software already :) ?07:09
RurouniJonesreinstall07:15
v-doggbugger...07:16
v-doggdo you reckon that problems (apps crashing) is caused by the kde version?07:18
blackflagHello all :) I did an upgrade to server-8.10 with vmware-server2 on it. I have no longer a keyboards in the vm's. Can someone help?08:13
hyper___chblackflag: what did you do?08:21
blackflagI did an upgrade to server-8.10 and to the latest vmware-server2. Now I dont have keybords in the vm-console's08:31
harmentalhey guys...after upgrading to intrepid (and kde 4) my login screen assumes a qwerty keyboard. Once i am logged in my azerty keyboard is promptly recognized....is this a new security feature? :oP Seriously....how can I correct it?08:33
apparleWhenever I copy data to a USB Flash Disk, it is copied very very slowly(about 200 to 400 kbps) why? in 8.04 it was normal. I am facing this problem ever since I installed 8.1008:40
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apparleis anybody here08:48
apparle_anyone online08:50
kriohi people08:51
kriomerry christmas passed and happy new year08:51
krionow, i lost the icon of knetworkconf08:52
kriowhat i can do to have it back?08:52
apparlehow did you lose it08:52
krioi don't know08:53
krioi think making the command pppoeconf to terminal08:53
kriois it possible?08:53
apparleI am facing a pecular problem, sometimes the computer boots normally, some times it just shows a black screen instead of login screen09:00
krioby people09:02
mayankwhat is the lightest flavour of linux?....ubuntu, kubuntu or something else...???????09:25
apparlewhat09:26
akshaycan anybody help me?09:34
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apparlefor what09:46
mayankwhy is ubuntu & kubuntu keeps logging out in the middle of my work?...512mb of ram really low for them?????????09:47
mayankwhy is ubuntu & kubuntu keeps logging out in the middle of my work?...512mb of ram really low for them?????????09:48
mayankwhy is ubuntu & kubuntu keeps logging out in the middle of my work?...512mb of ram really low for them?????????09:49
mayankanybody???????09:49
apparlemayank: how does RAM come into this09:51
mayankso u tell me09:52
mayanki was using ubuntu and install it 5-10-15 times(wubi) but in the middle of my work...its just freeze or logout...what i do09:53
mayanknow today i  have install kubuntu...same problem...logout in the middle of my work.........09:54
mayanknow today i  have install kubuntu...same problem...logout in the middle of my work.........09:56
mayankhellllooooooooo?????09:56
Ash-FoxCan somebody tell me where I can get the ext2 defrag tool is? I can't seem to find it in Ubuntu distros.10:13
slaaneshhello10:14
slaaneshI've got a problem when using new kmail 4.2 beta2 under gnome: there is no window decoration around the window...under kde4 it seems to work just fine...does anoyone have an idea about this?10:15
minteriorhi people10:16
minteriorhow can I get the text betwen two double quotes? With mawk or sed?10:17
faleI have an idea that would 'expand' this: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuJauntySetup . Should I add it or ask Riddell or ask someone else?10:35
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Walex3Ash-Fox: defrag is a rather bad idea. Just copy it, reforma,t and back.11:43
Mad_RichIs this the main Kubuntu chat channel or should I be somewhere else?11:52
PolitikerNEUThis is the main kubuntu chat11:53
Mad_Richthanks11:53
hyper__chhow can I in kde4 open a application in a saved session in a specific desktop?11:53
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Salze_hyper__ch: In the window specific settings you can specify a desktop - maybe that would solve your problem.11:57
hyper__chI have to try :) tzhx11:57
Mad_Richdoes anyone know if the gtk and compiz issues with KDE4 and the nvidia drivers have been solved by the latest driver release?12:03
cuzntidk12:03
cuznti know that kde has its own effects and you do not need compiz12:04
cuzntand i have zero nvidia issues12:05
Mad_Richic - but when I tried KDE4 a few months ago there were issues with some gtk apps and some crazy screen effects12:06
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Mad_RichI googled this and found a bug that said the nvidia driver was to blame12:07
Mad_Richbut there is a new driver out now12:07
Mad_Richso I wondered if anyone knows about this12:08
Mad_Richwhat driver do you have cuznt?12:09
cuznthold on12:11
Mad_Richwill do :)12:12
cuznti use a 5500 gforce SO i have nvidia accelerated graphis driver version 17312:13
Mad_Richok - thanks12:13
cuzntthe 1st time did not work12:13
cuznti had to uninstalled reboot reload12:13
tomekhelo12:14
cuzntnvivida can be weird... keep trying it will work. and I am low on the programming geek scale... so if i can do it   ***ANYONE CAN***12:14
Mad_Richty  :)12:14
Mad_RichMy problem is that I have to decide whether to upgrade again - last time it was so bad I went back to kde 3.5, which was a pita to do12:16
Mad_Rich I have KDE4 on my laptop with a intel graphics and it runs fine12:17
cuznti would back everything up and do a clean install12:29
cuzntas big a pita as that it is12:30
cuzntit was not exactly the correct way to do it.... BUT.... it solved all my issues12:31
dr_willisHmm.. My 5500 works here no  issues :12:31
dr_willis8800gtsXXX also12:31
dr_willisbut a lot depends on the exact video card it seems12:31
cuzntmine does too... but i d/l'd a clean install vs upgrade..12:31
cuzntas i stated my 5500 worls spiffy12:32
cuzntalso12:32
cuznti know now when i chose a restriced driver. it was a bit more resolute12:33
Mad_Richsorry - went to get a drink12:33
dr_willisactually my 5500 machine was a upgrade..12:33
Mad_RichI have a 6600GT12:34
cuzntthats a good idea. liquor helps with the frustration.. ;)12:34
Mad_Rich:)12:34
Mad_Richcuznt I agree - I probably will do a clean install this time - just trying to make sure it is worth the effort12:35
cuznti use an athalon (not 64) 1.5g ram 160g hard drive. my pc has never run better12:36
cuzntmy issue is i can "see" my wifes pc12:36
cuzntand she can not see mine12:36
Mad_Richdid you install samba and share a folder?12:37
cuzntoh yes12:37
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cuzntGuest?12:37
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cuznthey i am a musician also.. :)12:38
Mad_Richme too as it happens12:38
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grmahi, short question, how do i see the kernel boot printks, and all output from the init process in kubuntu ?12:39
Salze_grma: I think dmesg provides what you want to see.12:40
Mad_Richdo you mean during boot?12:40
grmayes i know dmesg, but i want to see it direct on starting12:40
grmai have included some scripts in rc.local, but the do not run, so i want to see the error whay12:40
Salze_You could try switching to console 12 - I guess it's printed there. Or on 2, maybe.12:41
grmas/whay/why12:41
Mad_Richyou need to change menu.lst in /boot/grub12:41
grmaahh ok, thanks will try12:41
grmaok, ah there is quiet enabled in grub12:41
Mad_Richyes12:41
grmathx will try12:41
dennistermerry xmas channel...need some help getting my sound restored after I removed a tuner from the box...no driver even shows up in kmix12:41
Mad_Richget rid of quiet and splash12:42
cuzntdid you ensure sound was not diabled in bios?12:42
cuznt!sound12:43
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP312:43
dennisteri haven't checked it recently, but it was certainly enabled in bios...worked fine before12:43
cuzntmaybe someting else jarred loose.12:44
dennisteri removed tuner, removed single set of mono speakers for a few days, and did expect sound to work again after i reattached speakers, but no...12:44
dennisterperhaps...but why wouldn't my old driver show up in kmixer?12:44
cuzntif nothing is attached kmix shows nothing12:45
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cuzntwheni take out my sound card. i get an empty kmix12:45
cuzntits possible the driver does not load if it does not see the hardware ?    ???12:46
Guest37426Kopote crashes when i click conffiguuure. i think it it my TV card. can someone heeeelp?12:46
dennisterhmmm...ok...that would make sense, except that i've got onboard sound...12:46
cuzntah12:46
cuzntas do i but its disabled im bios12:47
cuzntsis on board sound was horrendous12:47
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cuzntthen just try rebooting12:48
cuzntmaybe the driver did not load12:48
dennisterwait...seems i've got both onboard sound and sound card...so onboard stuff is probably disabled...will open box to verify good seating, and hope kmix shows a driver when i boot up again12:49
dennistercuznt: thx...never saw an empty kmix driver field before12:49
dennistercya in a few...12:49
cuznti did because i was trying to get my creative to wrk12:50
seanw__I seem to have this bug...bbut it wwwas fixed https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17439012:52
Mad_RichI installed oss to get the best out of my sound card12:53
grmaok, now i see my boot script in rc.local12:54
grmacan i tell the init proces of kubuntu, that it has to wait and not tu switch to kdm until the rc.local is finished ?12:54
Mad_Richhmm12:55
grmathe problem is in rc.local i mount my truecrypt fs, and home is in truecrypt12:55
grmathe same way i do it on fedora and suse, there the boot local script waits then i can enter the truecrypt password and then switches to kdm12:56
Mad_RichI think it must be possible, but I'm afraid I would have to google for the right script to edit12:57
grma:)12:57
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_lummgajim isnt saving his posittion anymore on kde4 :(13:10
runpain2God Day All13:13
runpain2I have a nvidia logo shows up at boot before login how do i get rid of it from start up13:13
dennisterkmix driver field still empty...onboard snd disabled in bios, sound card seated firmly...13:14
guiterbhow to install a driver?13:16
Mad_Richrunpain2 - I think there is a nologo command you can put into the xorg.conf file in /etc/X1113:16
dr_willisguiterb,  depends on what driver you are refering to13:16
dennisteralso checked syslog and dmesg...done't see mention of snd_via82xx mentioned, although it is in /etc/modules13:16
runpain2ok will look in to that13:16
Mad_Richbut don't play with this unless you are confident cos it's easy to screw up your x server13:17
dennisterof course, perhaps i'm not looking in logs properly...13:17
guiterbnet card13:17
Mad_Richrunpain2 - I would google around a bit to check the syntax13:17
runpain2sure yhanks Mad_Rich13:18
guiterb<dr_willis> can you help me ?13:18
dr_willisguiterb,  not without more details.  This wireless or wired?13:18
dennistercould someone please refresh my memory as to check to see if sound driver is loaded?13:18
Mad_Richlsmod13:19
dennisterit was working fine until a few days ago...ok, i did lsmod...the right sound driver is in there13:19
dennisterthe terminal command to check out what alsamixer dtects?13:20
Mad_Richlook in alsamixer13:20
Mad_RichI think it's F2 in alsamixer - can't check cos i ude oss13:21
Mad_Richuse13:21
dennistertried a simple 'alsamixer' in terminal...error message: alsamixer: function snd_ctrl_open failed for default: no such file or directory13:22
Mad_Richhmm - maybe alsa is borked13:22
dennisterperhaps...would that cause the driver field in kmixer to be empty?13:23
Mad_RichI get the same response - but that is cos I killed alsa to install oss13:23
MuzerOK, just switched back after using openSUSE for a few months and not being impressed13:23
Muzercouple of problems13:23
Muzer1) The resolution defaults to 1280x1024 until I go into the KDE display settings manager when it "realises" it's supposed to be in 1024x76813:24
guiterbwireless13:24
Muzerthat won't matter much thoug, I'm just using a crap monitor ATM, will switch soon to a much better one13:24
Mad_Richdennister - I'm sure a borked alsa would cause kmix not to have a driver listed13:25
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Muzer2) Dispite me installing them, the non-free NVIDIA drivers don't appear to be used, but because the xorg.conf is so borked I can't really tell13:25
Muzerhow can I tell for sure?13:25
dennisterok, but i never had to install alsa on this system...sound worked out of the box...does that 'oob' mean alsa is installed in default system?13:27
Mad_Richyes13:27
dennisterok, will purge and reinstall sound...i do know how to do that, but just never borked alsa before ...lol13:27
Mad_Richunless you are on kde413:27
dennisterno...don't like kde413:28
Mad_Richok cos that has pulse audio, which i know nothing about13:28
dennisteri have used pulse, back when i was testing and workiing with speakup for blind users13:29
rjune__alsa is part of the kernel13:29
dennisterbut yes, pulse is not that stable,...had to remove it from test system that was using speakup13:29
cuznt system trau JUST bugged out13:30
Mad_Richwell I have not got round to pulse - preferring oss13:30
OxDeadC0depulse rocks for networked sound13:31
cuznttray rather13:32
OxDeadC0deyou using 4.2b2?13:32
Taggnostrhello13:33
Mad_RichMy problem was no working alsa driver for my laptop13:34
Taggnostri'm having some problem with the bluetooth, i can send files from the pc to the phone but i can't do the opposite, even if i paired the devices13:34
Mad_Richand I wanted 5.1 and software mixing for my desktop13:34
Mad_Richcuznt - did you say your tray bugged out13:35
Taggnostri checked on the manual and it says that i can retrieve file in the phone from the pc, but it talks about kbluetoothd and i have kbluetooth and the options are different13:35
Mad_Richcos that was my problem on kde413:35
OxDeadC0deMad_Rich 4.2 beta2 fix's all the issues with the tray, 4.2 will be nice13:36
cuzntyes13:36
Taggnostrdo you know if they are two different programs, how can i install kbluetoothd or how can i send files from the phone to the pc?13:36
OxDeadC0deAnd offers multi-line task bars, autohiding, more widgets, lots of stuff13:36
cuzntspacing went berserk13:37
cuzntand all my minimized apps are not showing13:37
Mad_Richthanks OxDeadC0de13:37
Mad_Richmaybe it's time to give it a try13:37
cuzntwill i do anything? no... because i am ... transferring music from my mini disc to hard drive w/ audacity13:37
Mad_Rich:)13:38
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OxDeadC0dejust remember beta2 has a lot of bugs in it, it's still better imo than 4.1.3, but still not ready for say commercial deployment13:38
cuzntarrrrrgh.. when does 4.2 beta comenzie out like?13:38
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OxDeadC0decomenzie?13:39
Mad_RichOxDeadC0de - I can live with that13:39
Mad_Richcome13:39
OxDeadC0deread the topic :), it's out13:39
Mad_Richin german I think13:39
cuzntwhen 4 first came out plasma crashed after the 1st reboot and would no longer play nice13:39
OxDeadC0dehttp://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-213:39
cuznti was being puny13:39
cuzntsorry13:39
Mad_Rich:)13:39
cuzntcome...13:39
OxDeadC0de^^13:40
OxDeadC0deOh and get hot new stuff fails installing and upgrading plasmoids in 4.2beta2 btw, you have to manually install them13:40
Mad_Richnp  :)13:41
dennisterlol...sound card isn't even listed in lspci -v...methinks it died...luckily I have others...back after i swap it13:41
OxDeadC0dewell, since there's only 4 on there.. not a huge issue.. plasmapkg -r numberpackage.plasmoid  - then plasmapkg -i xxxxxx.plasmoid13:41
guiterbmake -C /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-386/build M=/opt/ipwraw-ng modules13:41
guiterbmake: *** /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-386/build: 没有该文件或目录。 停止。13:41
guiterbmake: *** [modules] 错误 213:41
guiterbwho can help me?13:41
OxDeadC0deI can't read chinese13:42
guiterb没有该文件或目录。 there isn't the file or rm stop13:43
OxDeadC0deoh, mad_rich, after you upgrade, you have to check out activities, it's virtual desktops for plasma widgets, so you can have different backgrounds and widgets.. there's supposedly a way to tie it into the virtual desktop system so your expo wall or whatever has different plasmoids running on each13:43
Taggnostris kbluetoothd different from kbluetooth?13:44
Mad_Richnice13:44
Mad_RichTaggnostr - I haven't done any bluetooth stuff - sorry13:44
guiterbWARNING: $SHELL not set to bash13:45
guiterbwhat is"WARNING: $SHELL not set to bash"?13:46
Taggnostrapparently all the documentation i have refers to kbluetoothd but i only have kbluetooth and it's different13:46
Mad_Richseems like it13:46
guiterb <OxDeadC0de>i cant't understand it clearly13:46
Mad_Richmaybe someone else will help you later13:46
Taggnostrok13:47
Mad_RichI can't see kbluetoothd listed in adept13:48
eagles0513875!info kbluetoothd13:48
ubottuPackage kbluetoothd does not exist in intrepid13:48
eagles0513875Mad_Rich: there is ur answer13:49
Taggnostrit says "Usually, kbluetoothd and the servers managed by it should work out of the box. But there are still some options you can change. To configure kbluetoothd, you can either use the KDE control center and go to Internet & Network -> Bluetooth services, or right-click the kbluetoothd tray icon and select Configuration -> Services..."13:49
eagles0513875!obex13:49
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about obex13:49
eagles0513875!info obex13:49
ubottuPackage obex does not exist in intrepid13:49
eagles0513875Taggnostr: what version are you running intrepid or hardy13:49
Taggnostrin internet & network i only have 'paired bluetooth devices'13:49
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Taggnostrhardy13:49
eagles0513875Taggnostr: for bluetooth settings you need to use the obex server for bluetooth13:50
eagles0513875thats what used to be in previous versions not sure what is in intrepid13:50
Taggnostrif i right-click on the tray icon there's configuration and i can check 'obex server', but there's no 'services' and even if i check it it doesn't work13:51
eagles0513875Taggnostr: obex is usually installed out of the box13:51
Taggnostryep, and i can send files to the phone, but when i try to send files from the phone to the pc it says 'connected to the phone' here and then 'sending failed' on the phone13:52
eagles0513875Taggnostr: not 100% sure to be honest have seen a friend try it and i forgot what he did to get it to work :(13:53
Taggnostri can't find a way to tell it to accept automatically the connection or ask, it seems that it just blocks it, even if i paired them13:53
eagles0513875!bluetooth13:53
ubottuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup13:53
eagles0513875Taggnostr: that link might help you out13:53
Taggnostrlet's see13:53
bebei instaled sendmail on my ubuntu 8.04, i send an e-mail , looked into the mail.log and the mail is send  ,but i don`t receive it :/13:53
bebeanyone got any ideea ?13:53
eagles0513875bebe: you might get more help from #sendmail channel13:54
bebenoone there to help me :/13:54
eagles0513875:(13:54
eagles0513875i havent messed around with sendmail much so i probably wont be of much help to you13:54
Mad_Richtry later perhaps13:54
bebethanks for ya answer13:54
beberecomend me another mail program ?13:55
eagles0513875no prob13:55
bebethat works ?13:55
eagles0513875bebe: sendmail is the best one out there13:55
Mad_RichI use thundirbird13:55
eagles0513875Mad_Rich: he wants a mail server13:55
Mad_Richthunderbird13:55
bebei need the sendmail for my gnuworld13:55
eagles0513875bebe: i think i might have some info for ya13:55
Mad_Richic13:55
MuzerOK, got wobbly windows and most other effects working13:55
Muzerbut not cube13:55
bebeok eagles051387513:56
eagles0513875bebe: mind if i pm ya13:56
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RurouniJonesIf you have a package and need the latest and greatest version of the program said package provides, is there a way of finding out if there is a roadmap for releasing it available?13:57
dennisterok, issue solved: actual card had died...sound works fine now that i've swapped the hardware13:57
Mad_Richnice one dennister13:57
eagles0513875bebe: have you taken a look at the sendmail.cf file13:58
faridHi All. Why is updating slow on Kubuntu when it's fast for Windows ?13:59
bebewhat to edit there eagle ?13:59
Mad_RichIt's a long time since I used an irc channel - can anybody remind me the quick way to insert someones nick in my text?13:59
DragnslcrMad_Rich- most IRC clients have tab completion14:00
Mad_Richty - let me try14:00
Mad_RichDragnslcr: cool  :)14:01
Mad_Richlike I say a loooong time  :(14:02
dennisterMad_Rich: just type in the first few letters of the nick and press tab14:03
Mad_Richdennister: got it - thanks14:03
dennisteryeah...just got back and what Dragnslcr advised probably helped you before my hint, heheheh14:04
Mad_Rich:)14:04
Mad_Richall help is good help14:04
dennisterjust doing another system install here, going back and forth between this server and new system with the kvm...14:06
dennisteranyone using utorrent 1.9 under wine to evade bell canada's throttling? works quite nicely for me :)14:08
Mad_Richdennister: I use ktorrent, but I'm in the UK14:09
eagles0513875this is kinda offtopic guys14:09
dennisteruk isps throttle too14:09
Mad_Richtrue14:09
Mad_Richpm14:09
Muzerhmm14:15
Muzercan't seem to enable 4 desktops14:15
Muzerthe setting reverts back14:15
Muzerdoes it require a restart or something?14:15
Mad_Richtry restarting x server14:17
Walex3Muzer: is that 4 desktops or 4 monitors?14:18
Mad_Richctrl-alt-backdelete14:18
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Muzer4 desktops14:18
Muzernot 4 monitors14:18
MuzerI know how to restart X, btw, just want to avoid it if possible14:18
Walex3Muzer: then that has nothing to do with X windows, only with the Window Manager.14:18
Walex3Muzer: which is KWin, if you are using Kubuntu14:19
Muzerwhich is KDE in this case (Kubuntu...)14:19
Muzer:p14:19
MuzerOK, KWin14:19
Muzerwhatever14:19
Muzer:p14:19
Walex3Muzer: to condifure 4 viortual desktops just bring up the KWin config panel and enable it.14:19
Mad_Richsorry Muzer - not trying to preach to the choir14:20
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buchsI just installed the KDE4.2 beta and found that my window decorations no longer show up.  Any thoughts on the cause of that?14:21
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legodude_4.2, sooooo much nicer14:26
jingzhuzhulag?14:43
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HappySmileManCan anyone explain the difference between "kwin" and "kde-window-decorator" packages? I have the latter installed, but "kwin" exists at same version in same repo14:57
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cuzntwell it kind of fixed my task bar15:07
cuzntnow i just can not adjust where everything goes....15:07
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* Taggnostr fixed the bluetooth15:15
eagles0513875Taggnostr: what was wrong with it15:23
eagles0513875and i need a vnc server package what does one recommend15:23
eagles0513875!info vnc15:23
ubottuPackage vnc does not exist in intrepid15:23
jussi01!info x11vnc15:23
ubottux11vnc (source: libvncserver): VNC server to allow remote access to an existing X session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.3.dfsg.1-1ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 747 kB, installed size 1556 kB15:23
eagles0513875ty jussi01 with that then i should be able to vnc into this desktop from even a windows machine15:24
Salze_eagles0513875: tightvnc15:24
jussi01I imagine so...15:24
eagles0513875Salze_: ty15:24
eagles0513875and ty jussi0115:24
Taggnostreagles0513875, i don't know, i've broken it and when i fixed it started to work properly15:24
Salze_eagles0513875: depending on your needs you might want to have a look at www.nomachine.com, too.15:25
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Zeelot3khey guys, im trying to install sysinfo for konqueror but I get invalid protocol. anyone know why? I installed kio-sysinfo15:39
Zeelot3kI get invalid protocol when I try to use it15:39
tupachttps://gnud.wordpress.com/15:47
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bazhangtupac, dont paste that here15:55
bobo99hey all15:57
bobo99i'm new bie with ubuntu15:57
jussi01bobo99: do you have a question?15:59
clara-17hello15:59
legodudehello16:00
bobo99how to remote my server ? with remote desktop like in windows16:00
legodude!vnc16:00
ubottuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX16:00
clara-17itś first time i am here16:00
legodudewelcome16:00
bobo99if i'm client?16:00
Salze_bobo99: There are different ways. VNC, www.nomachine.com16:00
legodudebobo99: vnc is probably easiest16:00
legodudeor freenx as it says16:00
legodude!freenx16:01
ubottuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX16:01
jussi01bobo99: you have a server setup and want to connect to it?16:01
bobo99yes16:01
jussi01bobo99: kmenu, then internet, then KRDC16:01
eagles0513875hey guys i need soem help with x11vnc i am unable to connect to my linux box16:01
jussi01eagles0513875: check your firewall16:02
jussi01eagles0513875: x11vnc is the server iirc...16:02
bobo99ok i will try first16:02
eagles0513875jussi01 i did an nmap on the linux box nad the remote desktop port 5900 which i found googling isnt open16:02
eagles0513875and im guessing i need to port forward and open it on windows firewall16:03
jussi01eagles0513875: Id guess itd be somethign like that16:03
bobo99to connect with vpn server?16:04
eagles0513875vnc16:04
bobo99coz if you talk about port, is it mean of remote desktop?16:04
eagles0513875bobo99 O_o what do u mean16:05
eagles0513875jussi01 im guessing the port is tcp and not udp or both16:05
bobo99If i get connect to vpn server16:06
seanW__How do i change the login sound?16:06
jussi01bobo99: vpn and vnc are very different16:07
bobo99then i can connect to the other server that connect to my vpn server16:07
Salze_seanW__: Systemsettings -> Notifications16:07
bobo99I try the vnc16:07
eagles0513875jussi01 this still isnt working16:07
eagles0513875i have port forwarded and firewall open16:07
eagles0513875on this windows boxc16:08
jussi01eagles0513875: Im a little busy, hopefully someone else has time16:08
eagles0513875anyone else able to help me with some vnc issues16:09
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Farghhiya fellas16:12
eagles0513875hey16:12
HappySmileManAnyone want to link me to a good vimrc file for C++, or somewere explaining them? I can't seem to find anything other than generic examples16:13
seanW__What about sounds for KDM?16:14
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eagles0513875seanW__ need more information as to ur issue to be able to help16:16
seanW__is there a way to add sounds for kdm events?16:18
Salze_No. BTW: what would those events be?16:21
seanW__invalid password16:21
seanW__accepted password16:21
Salze_I guess there would be no difference between an accepted password and a login.16:22
seanW__yes...idk what i was thinking16:23
Salze_You can configure the sound on login as said above.16:24
bobo99hey all16:26
bobo99if i use vnc i must install vnc server at my server?16:26
bobo99if my vpn server with windows os, n i want to connect but without vnc.Do you have alternative?16:27
Salze_RDP16:27
bobo99remote desktop protocol?16:28
Salze_Yes.16:28
bobo99but i must connect to VPN first16:28
bobo99how?16:28
eagles0513875vpn what do you need vpn and where is your server first of all16:29
Salze_That depends on your vpn.16:29
eagles0513875bobo99 if you are in same location as the server you can just vnc16:29
eagles0513875bobo99 vpn is when you want to access the server when you are outside the company lan16:29
bobo99yup16:29
bobo99i'm outside the company lan16:29
bobo99sorry i forget to tell it first16:30
bobo99i must to connect to windows VPN first16:30
eagles0513875!vpn | bobo9916:31
ubottubobo99: From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD16:31
bobo99hmm it's for make vpn server16:32
bobo99if i'm a client of windows server, but i want to connect with my ubuntu16:33
bobo99what application i can use?16:33
Salze_That depends on your vpn.16:34
bobo99can you describe deeply16:34
bobo99if my vpn with vnc i always can use vnc too16:34
Salze_vnc and vpn are two totally different things.16:35
bobo99vnc is tools16:35
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bobo99VPN is protocols?16:35
Salze_vnc is remote desktop sharing, vpn is ip security.16:35
bobo99virtual private16:35
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eagles0513875Salze_ :( im having some nasty issues16:35
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eagles0513875with anything vpn related its like vpn is broken but it could be just me ovista16:36
bobo99what is that?16:36
Salze_?16:36
eagles0513875brb16:36
W8TAHwhere can i find some themes for the kde login manager -- right now ive only got the oxygen theme available16:36
bobo99brb i want to go home....maybe better i learn java to make application in linux16:37
olegbW8TAH: install the kde-kdm-themes package ?16:37
W8TAHolegb: thanks16:38
bobo99ok :Salze, :eagles0513875 thanks for your time....16:39
bobo99see you all16:39
Salze_bobo99: Good luck, have a nice day.16:39
Farghi upgraded to new KDE 4.1 ... where is that GUI to handle the filesystem ?16:51
Salze_Fargh: dolphin16:52
Farghno thats a filemanager16:52
Farghi need to mount USB drives16:52
Farghin system settings in advanced it used to be there16:52
Salze_Fargh: you can do that in dolphin.16:52
Farghow16:52
Farghi hated dolphin before16:53
Farghone sec16:53
Farghwhere in dolphin is that +16:53
Salze_On the left side.16:54
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legodudeanyone know where to turn the screen saver password off in kde 4.2?16:55
Farghi get an error about it to mount it as root or rebuild it16:55
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FarghSalze_: more hints +16:57
Fargh?16:57
Salze_legodude: systemsettings -> desktop (the first icon, first row), screen saver16:57
eagles0513875legodude ask in #kde16:57
Salze_Fargh: mount it as root or rebuild it <- try that16:57
Salze_Fargh: from the console16:57
mrunagibah can anyone help me figure out why the kubuntu network manager only gives me the option for wep when my network is wpa?16:58
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Farghi wish i knew the commands16:58
Farghhence the reason to find the gui :)16:58
eagles0513875Fargh you want to mount ur usb16:59
Farghyep16:59
eagles0513875Fargh i can help ya in a sec on mounting with commands brb really fast16:59
legodudeSalze_: that's not it :(16:59
eagles0513875legodude kde4.2 is still beta till january at some poiint you would be better off asking in #kde channel bro16:59
jenniferhello y'all16:59
eagles0513875brb16:59
eagles0513875hey jennifer :)16:59
eagles0513875brb16:59
Fargh/dev/sdc1         /media/mybook      auto defaults,user,auto,umask=000 0 017:00
Fargh/dev/sdd1         /media/external    auto defaults,user,auto,umask=000 0 017:00
Farghthis is in my /etc/fstab17:00
Farghguess something is wrong17:00
jenniferi have a question about the Lenmark 9500 drive17:00
p_quarlesFargh: why are you using fstab for removable media?17:01
jenniferi was told that my Dell 680 printer would work if i installed a Lenmark 9500 driver on my computer17:01
Farghp_quarles: what else to use ?17:01
mrunagi!ntfs17:01
ubottuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE17:01
Farghi want to have them mounted upon boot17:01
eagles0513875back17:01
Farghfor all users17:01
jenniferwb17:02
p_quarlesFargh: so they're not really removable, then? you want them always-on?17:02
Farghyep17:02
eagles0513875ty jennifer not sure about your issue have u checked dells website now that they are supporting linux they might have a driver for your printer17:03
Farghi'll read that page first17:03
jenniferthe printer I have isnt supported by Linux17:03
eagles0513875jennifer so dell has no driver for it17:03
jenniferi just got Linux installed on my comp a few weeks ago; no they dont17:03
eagles0513875gotcha17:03
jenniferbut i was told on here that that Lenmark driver would work17:04
eagles0513875jennifer this issue is a first normally all printers at least ones i have tried work out of the box17:04
jenniferthen how do i get the driver and what not17:05
eagles0513875!info dell17:05
ubottuPackage dell does not exist in intrepid17:05
rioriowhen I select to show icons on my desktop Kubuntu displays the files in my home folder.  How do I make it show the files in my desktop folder instead?17:09
rioriothere is nothing to select in my system settings17:09
mrunagi!recompile17:09
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about recompile17:09
rioriois recomplie a command?17:10
mrunagino17:11
Dragnslcrriorio- in KDE 4?17:12
Armagguedeshello17:12
Armagguedesare nvidia's proprietary drivers working again or not?17:12
rioriono, not 4, earlier17:12
rioriowell, that is I did try to install KDE 4 a while ago but something went wrong17:13
rioriobut I think I'm still on 3.x17:14
DragnslcrI don't remember how you set which directory is shown on the desktop in KDE 317:14
rioriook :(17:15
rioriobut should I do it in a terminal?17:15
riorioor is there supposed to be some settings in the system settings?17:16
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dstaranyone know a way to change the tooltip delay when I mouse over icons? E.G., it takes forever to show me my battery status....17:22
dstarand is it possible to get the taskbar to autohide?17:29
polciao ra17:30
snail_hey17:33
eagles0513875!it | pol17:34
ubottupol: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)17:34
polgrazie ciao17:35
riorioeagles0513875, is there a Swedish Kubuntu channel?17:39
riorioI just now about #ubuntu-se17:39
eagles0513875!se | riorio17:40
ubotturiorio: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se17:40
eagles0513875riorio :) that help ya out17:40
dstarEr. _can_ panels autohide in the current Kubuntu?17:40
riorio:) eagles0513875 like ten peole in there17:40
rioriono action17:41
riorio*in #kubuntu-se17:41
rioriodstar, what panels?17:44
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rioriodstar, try to right cklick it17:45
dstarriorio: the main one at the bottom of my screen (would be the taskbar in windows, but I don't know what KDE calls it). Right clicking lets me select 'panel settings', but that's a very... non-intuitive thing, and it doesn't seem to have any options.17:50
rioriodstar, it does here17:51
dstarhmmm17:51
rioriomy Kubuntu is speaking swedish, but you should find an option for "hide"17:51
dstaraha... are you on 8.10?17:52
tupackubuntu is so fake17:52
bazhang!ot > tupac17:53
ubottutupac, please see my private message17:53
tupacyes17:54
bazhangtupac, this is kubuntu support please chat in #kubuntu-offtopic NOT here17:54
dstarriorio: Where do you see the 'hide' option? In the first thing that comes up when you right-click, or do you have to click 'panel settings'?17:55
tupac<bazhang>shat up17:55
rioriodstar, first click panel settings, then there should be a hide option17:56
p_quarlestupac: weren't you banned yesterday? please leave17:56
p_quarles!op17:56
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, genii, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild, Pici or jussi01!17:56
dstarriorio: All I see on panel settings is three document looking icons (align left, center, or right), add wiget, lock widgets, and remove this panel17:57
rioriodstar, it is possible that your version of kde is newer than mine17:58
dstarriorio: Possibly, or older (just installed, and started with ubuntu before remembering just _why_ it is that I hate Gnome with the burning passion of a thousand suns)18:01
rioriodstar, anyways, there should be a simple menu for changing that18:02
rioriothere is here for sure18:03
SchuenemannI can't play DVDs. I installed libdvdcss2 from medibuntu but still can't play.18:03
rioriocan't imagine Kubuntu to be much different on newer versions18:03
rioriogood night18:04
mrunagi_!ip18:04
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ip18:04
mrunagi_how do i view ip information on my network such as default gateways18:05
p_quarlesmrunagi_: /sbin/ifconfig -a18:05
mrunagi_which one is default gateway18:06
p_quarlesmrunagi_: what are you attempting to do?18:09
mrunagi_make sure my ips are right18:09
p_quarlesmrunagi_: according to what? is something not working, or are you trying to configure something?18:10
rogue780when I try to install anything adept now I get the error: "Package download failed, Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." anyone know how to fix this?18:11
mrunagi_just curious how brighthouse set up this network18:11
p_quarlesmrunagi_: if you're using DHCP, for instance, this stuff is all automatic; if you want static address, that's another story18:11
Mad_Richifconfig will show current ip etc18:12
Mad_Richroute will show default gateway18:12
FisherPriceHi, I've just tried to upgrade to Intrepid and now I don't have my NVidia card working. After I've tried Envy OR the "Hardware Drivers" I get this error... http://pastebin.com/m6d638c3f18:12
FisherPriceany ideas people?18:12
FisherPriceone more thing... in the middle of the upgrade my computer overheated and shutdown :S18:13
rogue780that sounds like a cooling issue...I'd recommend a new fan and some good thermal compound18:14
kimetz /join #apertium18:14
FisherPricethat doesn'18:14
FisherPricethat doesn't fix my nvidia issue now though18:14
rogue780no18:15
rogue780!nvidia18:15
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto18:15
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rogue780when I try to install anything with adept I get the error: "Package download failed, Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." anyone know how to fix this?18:19
rogue780could it be because I installed kubuntu-restricted-extras?18:20
FisherPricehave you tried "sudo dpkg-recongure -a"18:20
FisherPricehave you tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a"18:20
rogue780no, what will that do?18:21
FisherPricemight fix broken packages....18:21
red22how do i enable compiz effects in kde pls?  i have it all working in gnome, just installed kde but don't have compiz starting up automatically here.  anyone please know?18:21
rogue780red22, it's under system settings, desktop, effects18:22
rogue780it's sort of compiz...not sure if it is actually compiz or not, but some of the same effects exist18:22
killermachI ripped my seminar into ogg files with grip, now I need to convert them to mp3 to my portable player will play them..can someone point me to a tutorial on this .. thanks18:22
HappySmileManIt's KWin's own effects, but has the cube, transparency, etc.18:23
rogue780killermach, have you checked the forums?18:24
rogue780killermach, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-142619.html18:24
red22rogue780: i have no such app/icon in the systemsettings window.. perhaps the one just named Desktop?  Ok i see desktop effects options in that app... but i can't just use my straight up compiz  like it's configured in my gnome session?18:26
red22rogue780: i want to have emerald drawn window borders and everything.  i tried enabling compiz with "compiz-switch" but kde gets very angry in my next restart and freezes on login... until i remove my ,kde folder and start fresh again...18:28
rogue780red22, AFAIK, compiz doesn't translate to kubuntu, sadly...they prefer to use kwin effects18:29
red22rogue780:wow.  that's kindof a heartbreaker, really.  ok i'll try to look into that then.  i gotta take care of something but i'll be back in 15 mins.  let me know if you find anything and i'll do the same. thanks for the help.18:30
Mad_Rich!kde418:31
ubottuKDE 4.1.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.3 | 4.2 Beta 1 packages http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58 | Support in #kubuntu18:31
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DaSkreechI missed it what breaks hearts?18:45
jussi01DaSkreech: [20:29:51] <red22> rogue780: i want to have emerald drawn window borders and everything.  i tried enabling compiz with "compiz-switch" but kde gets very angry in my next restart and freezes on login... until i remove my ,kde folder and start fresh again...18:48
DaSkreechWhat's the allure of Emerald?18:48
DaSkreechOther than firey green?18:49
red22DaSkreech: someone said that kde doesn't behave well with compiz and that kwin should be used for effects instead... seems odd bc it works just fine until i try to restart again and it freezes up.18:49
DaSkreechMore like compiz doesn't behave well with KDE18:49
DaSkreechBut you are right if something compiz is saving inthe settings is causing a freeze when it restarts that should be looked into18:50
DaSkreechred22: I don't suppose you would have objections to logging in via terminal first and backing up/removing compiz settings before logging in by GUI to ensure that it is indeed compiz that's going haywire and not something crazy like KDE trying to load two window managers at once?18:51
DaSkreechAlso what version of KDE are you using?18:51
red22DaSkreech: using ubuntu 8.10 (then i added on kde desktop) fully updated.18:53
DaSkreechred22: So 4.1.3 ?18:53
DaSkreechOr 4.1.2 ?18:53
DaSkreechor 4.2? :-)18:53
DaSkreechthere are lots of updates for 8.10 :)18:53
don_when i insert any/doesnt matter which brand blank media into my pioneer 1.08 - running latest kde 4.2 bets - the media is not recognized - any ideas?18:54
red22DaSkreech: 4.1.318:54
red22DaSkreech: I'm willing to try to set up some debugging or look through some logs or whatever to try to hunt down what the problem is, but i just really don't know much about kde (just over from gnome) or compiz internals.18:56
DarkriftXmy mouse cursor dissapeared and I cannot get it back. Ive tried restarting X, changing cursor themes and nothign works. I can use the mouse, just cannot see the cursor. Anyone got any ideas?18:57
red22DaSkreech: no need to uninstall compiz (it seems) since the kde login works like a charm so long as i never startup compiz in kde.  i use it in gnome all the time with no problem either.18:57
DaSkreechred22: Can you check in system settings for defaultapplications and see if you can switch out the default to compiz there?18:58
DaSkreechI forget if that's a 4.2 feature or not18:58
red22DarkriftX: someone had that problem and fixed it here, try and see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-nv/+bug/12338918:59
red22DaSkreech: defaultapps?  i see a "file associations" app.. this one?19:01
red22DaSkreech: nvm ok i found it.19:01
red22DaSkreech: found it, but there seems to be nothing for desktop effects there.. only browsers, email, etc..19:02
DaSkreechOk that's a 4.2 feature then19:02
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DarkriftXgonna try that red22  (the xorg option), brb19:05
DarkriftXok, worked, thx red2219:07
DarkriftXa bug like that teaches you 2 things, first some people are way too dependent upon mice, and second that if you try, you can get REALLY good at "guessing" where your cursor is without seeing it19:09
DaSkreechFocus follows mind19:10
dstarDaSkreech: *WANT*!19:10
dstarAnyone know if it's possible to configure the delay before a tooltip pops up?19:10
DaSkreech 1 nano second19:11
DaSkreechApply19:11
dstarAnd is it possible to have the network widget show me what speed I'm connected at for my wireless adapter?19:13
red22DarkriftX: np, glad to help.  another thing it teaches is that yahoo is your friend :P19:15
DarkriftXi had no idea what to search, all my queries came back empty19:16
DarkriftXand the mouse thing was hard to click on resuts in a webpage19:17
DaSkreechred22: Right up until the buyout19:17
red22lemme try to find what i seaarched for hold on19:17
DaSkreechDarkriftX: If you are using Konqueror press ctrl and it will highlight every link with a letter press the letter to go to the link19:17
DarkriftXi use ff :S19:17
DarkriftXkonq doesnt work for me on any .php pages, tries to download them instead19:18
red22DaSkreech: after the buyout it will become evil search?19:18
DaSkreechred22: Mebbe if Microsoft has it's way. Also bye bye Zimbra19:20
red22DarkriftX: "kde invisible mouse pointer" was the search.  i find it helpful to see what ppl search for after i can't find it myself.19:21
DarkriftXheh19:22
DarkriftXi was using "dissapeared"19:22
DarkriftXi just remembered another thing, this is a new mouse (got it yesterday and never noticed if it ever worked or not)19:22
DarkriftXthe hwcursor off option worked, so im wondering if it just needed a full reboot to get it working. The mouse is the exact same as the old one but slightly different color (and newer model prob)19:23
red22DaSkreech: i love yahoo myself, but it's alittle scary to hear employee accounts of the horrible mis-management that goes on there.  granted, i can't vouch for any of that being true or not.  or just disgruntled laid off ranting.19:24
DaSkreechLikely both19:25
DaSkreechsome mismanagment blown out of proportion by disgruntalimentism19:25
red22yeah. what we really need is more search options. i don't care what you PR motto is, if you monopolize online search, much evil will take place for sure.19:26
hyper_chas of now I just don't see any alternatives to google and TPB in the online search19:27
bahaa2008_hi19:27
bahaa2008_i just installed kubuntu 8.1019:28
DaSkreech!hi19:28
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!19:28
hyper_chhuhu bahaa2008_19:28
DarkriftXyeah, cuil was an epic fail19:28
hyper_chbahaa2008_: that's good :)19:28
hyper_chDarkriftX: the idea of cuil was nice19:28
bahaa2008_and have problems with my display19:28
DarkriftXnot the implementation though19:28
hyper_chDarkriftX: but it didn't even find my fraternity's homepage19:28
hyper_chDarkriftX: then I stopped using it19:28
DarkriftXit rapes sites and gets nowhere19:28
bahaa2008_when i write on my keyboard19:28
DarkriftXi have sites with PR on them that I could not even get listed on cuil19:28
bahaa2008_the screen flashes19:28
DarkriftXand their bot is death to forums19:28
DarkriftXespecially on shared hosting19:29
DarkriftX20-80 concurrent connections at once19:29
bahaa2008_hyper_ch:19:29
hyper_chbahaa2008_: what video card?19:29
bahaa2008_type ?19:29
DaSkreechbahaa2008_: try pressing alt+shift+F1219:29
hyper_chDarkriftX: well, my server is unterused anway so I did not notice anything happening by cuil19:29
DarkriftXok, time to go to work, later all19:29
red22DaSkreech: i'm gonna try turning off kwin from the system settings -> desktop app and then starting up compiz.  maybe it's a conflict of both trying to start up on login that freezes things.. i'll let you know.19:29
red22DarkriftX: later19:30
DaSkreechred22: That's the second thing i said :)19:30
bahaa2008_hyper_ch: my VGA is      Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter19:31
hyper_chbahaa2008_: no clue how well/bad they work19:31
bahaa2008_i don't have this problem with ubuntu19:31
bahaa2008_in the same machine19:31
red22DaSkreech: i thought about it and i thought i typed it, but i left it out.  i did have the intention of giving you credit for it :P19:32
bahaa2008_hyper_ch: plz help me cuz i need it today19:32
hyper_chbahaa2008_: I can't19:32
red22DaSkreech: are you frequently on here? it will take a few restarts tonight to check if everything works or not.  i'll get back on then to share test results.   thanks for the help again.19:33
bahaa2008_hyper_ch: why ?19:34
hyper_chbahaa2008_: why can't you help yourself? ... same reason applies to me19:34
bahaa2008_hyper_ch: thanks for help19:35
dstarhmm... after updating to kde4.2, 'ignore' doesn't work on kopete notifications....19:43
Armagguedesspeaking of graphics cards19:43
Armagguedesare nvidia's proprietary drivers working again or not for KDE 4.1 / 8.10?19:43
hyper_chno clue19:44
hyper_chI don't use 4.119:44
Mad_RichArmagguedes: I was asking that very question myself earlier19:45
Mad_Richword was that things are looking good in 4.219:46
eMliveDey hola19:46
Mad_RichI assume that included the latest nvidia driver but ppl were not sure19:46
hyper_ch4.2 has not a different kernel... just a differen kde buil19:47
Armagguedesis 9.04 coming out with 4.2?19:47
Mad_RichI think so19:47
Armagguedesgood19:47
hyper_choh, you're talking about jaunty?19:47
Armagguedesyes19:47
hyper_chI use 4.2 on 8.1019:47
Armagguedesbecause when i tried using 8.10 it was  mind-boggingly slow19:48
Mad_Richdo you have an nvidia card by any chance19:48
Armagguedesi thought 4.2 was still in beta19:48
hyper_chhow can anything be mind-bogglingly slow?19:48
hyper_chArmagguedes: it is19:48
hyper_chMad_Rich: not anymore19:48
Mad_Richit is still in beta219:48
hyper_chbut works way better than 4.119:48
Mad_Richthere was a problem with nvidia drivers and 4.1 with gtk apps19:49
Armagguedescan i use that --dist-upgrade thing in apt-get to update from 8.04 to 9.04?19:49
Armagguedesso i don't have to reinstall all the packages19:49
Armagguedes?19:49
Mad_Richwhich has prevented me using it up to now19:49
Mad_Rich9,04 is still in alpha i think19:49
DaSkreechYes19:50
DaSkreech4.2.2 most likely19:50
DaSkreechArmagguedes: Yes19:51
Armagguedesyes. alpha 219:51
hyper_chMad_Rich: why not trying 4.2 in 8.10?19:51
ArmagguedesDaSkreech, then how do i later purge all of KDE319:51
Mad_RichI will wait till it goes beta i think19:51
Armagguedesi'll wait till its final19:51
DaSkreechArmagguedes: apt-get remove kdelibs4c2a19:51
Armagguedes4c2a?19:52
Armagguedeswhat's that?19:52
Armagguedesit's not versioning19:52
Armagguedesor not like i've seen before19:52
DaSkreechArmagguedes: In some sense. It's the kdelibs base number19:52
DaSkreechKDE3 needs KDE libs419:52
DaSkreechKDE4 needs KDE libs519:53
DaSkreechKDE5 needs KDE libs6 etc19:53
Armagguedesok i see19:53
Armagguedesis kde5 already in the works?19:53
DaSkreechif you remove kdelibs4c2a then all of KDE is obliged to go with it19:53
hyper_chso, I need to fix now my little script19:53
DaSkreechArmagguedes: I'm sure someone is dreaming of it19:53
Armagguedesah19:54
Mad_Richhyper_ch: sorry didn't see your post19:54
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Mad_RichI am still running hardy19:54
ArmagguedesKDE5, now with an even more incomprehensible desktop!19:54
hyper_chMad_Rich: I don't think there are 4.2 repos for hardy19:55
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Mad_Richhyper_ch: you are correct19:55
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Mad_Richhyper_ch: that's why I'm waiting for 9.0419:55
Mad_Rich8.1 and kde 4.1 didn't work for me due to graphics issues19:56
Mad_Richnvidia driver  etc19:56
DaSkreechArmagguedes: We have long since evolved away from desks and their tops19:56
Armagguedesevolved backwards as far as i'm concerned19:57
Mad_Rich:)19:57
DaSkreechArmagguedes: It's not like you can't just use it like an old skool desktop :)19:58
Armagguedesi know, but it makes it 10x more complicated19:59
DaSkreechhow so?20:01
hyper_chjust, just corrected a small bug in my tool:  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch20:01
Armagguedesa folder to view your desktop on your desktop?20:02
Armagguedesseriously20:02
hyper_chhmm, I think I should add jaunty repos to the generator ;)20:02
DaSkreechArmagguedes: Ha ha that's cause you have gotten stuck in that concept20:02
Armagguedesbecause it was a damn useful/simple one20:03
DaSkreechArmagguedes: Imagine if your desktop was glass and you could see into all the drawers under the desk That's more like what the new model is like20:03
Armagguedesno more links to special folders on your fs either20:03
DaSkreechYou can look at anything you like intead of having to change context20:03
DaSkreechWhat links to special folders?20:03
jussi01_Armagguedes: in 4.2 you can revert tothe old style if you prefer20:03
Armagguedes_/share/ ~/Documents/ ~/photos/ etc20:04
DaSkreechjussi01_: He knows he's just sayingit stupid to have the option to do that20:04
Armagguedesreally?20:04
Armagguedessw33t20:04
DaSkreechArmagguedes: Why would you say those are gone?20:04
Armagguedesbecause i had links lying in an orderly fashion in my desktop20:05
Armagguedesnow its either those folder views that take up way too much space20:05
Armagguedesor nothing at all20:06
Mad_Richfrom what you guys are saying I think it is time to look at 4.2 on my laptop20:06
DaSkreechArmagguedes: you can replace the desktop container20:06
Armagguedesi know20:06
DaSkreechso you can put a folderview there and point that at whatever20:07
Armagguedesi know, but my problem is that i currently have 12 folder links on my desktop20:07
Armagguedesand i use any of them frequently20:07
Armagguedeshaving 12 folderviews in KDE4 makes a mess of the "desktop"20:08
Mad_Rich!kde420:10
ubottuKDE 4.1.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.3 | 4.2 Beta 1 packages http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58 | Support in #kubuntu20:10
hyper_chactually that factoid needs to be changed to 4.2 beta 220:11
p_quarles hyper_ch that's pre-release, hence the "beta" part :)20:12
hyper_chp_quarles: but it's beta 2 now and not beta 120:12
p_quarlesoh, sorry, missed the part about the beta in the factoid20:12
hyper_ch^^20:13
DragnslcrArmagguedes- the old style was that everything in ~/Desktop was shown on the desktop. If you want to have the same stuff in KDE4, add a folder view to your desktop that points to ~/Desktop20:13
Armagguedesi know already20:14
Armagguedesthat's not my point20:14
DaSkreechIn suse you can even choose between a non cashewed esktop and a cashewed one :)20:14
Mad_RichThanks for the discussion everyone - going to play with 4.220:15
DaSkreechArmagguedes: Just put.desktop links in ~Desktop20:15
jussi01_!kde420:16
ubottukde4 is KDE 4.1.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.3 |  4.2 Beta 2 packages http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2 | Support in #kubuntu20:16
jussi01_hyper_ch: ^^20:16
hyper_chjussi01_: thx :)20:16
DaSkreechnew packages in 2 weeks :-)20:16
Armagguedeswhat does "cashew/cashewed" mean?20:16
hyper_chwow... complaining really helps :)20:16
Armagguedeshyper_ch, it's all about the bitching20:17
jussi01_hyper_ch: you can suggest changes yourself, just do    !factoid is new stuff here20:17
hyper_chhow do you actually convert a cd into mp3 in kde 4.2?20:17
jussi01_thatll forward to us in -ops :)20:17
hyper_ch!factoid20:18
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots20:18
hyper_chlooks like a supybot20:18
jussi01_hyper_ch: have alook at the usage info20:18
jussi01_yeah it is20:18
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hyper_chI wrote once a little tool for the german kubuntu channel that will parse their wiki and update factoid db according to the wiki entries20:19
Ajites20:19
ubuntuhi,, im trying to resize a xfs partition using gparted, but it says No Implementation: Support for opening xfs file systems is not implemented yet. .. can anyone teach me how to resize my xfs partition?20:19
DragnslcrBleh, I hate it when Plasma crashes20:19
DragnslcrI keep losing the Quicklaunch20:19
DaSkreechhyper_ch: doesn't audiocd:/ work ?20:20
hyper_chDaSkreech: not really20:20
hyper_chDaSkreech: at first it didn't display the mp3 option20:20
Armagguedesis soundKonverter ported?20:20
Armagguedesthat's what i sue20:20
Armagguedesuse20:21
DaSkreechArmagguedes: In KDE 4 the default desktop has a toolbox button in the top corner we like to call it the cashew20:21
hyper_chDaSkreech: I had to install ubuntu-restricted-extras20:21
hyper_chDaSkreech: and then it just made computer jitter noise20:21
Armagguedesi see, the little orange bean20:21
DaSkreechDragnslcr: are you using 4.2 ?20:21
hyper_chubuntu: making it bigger or smaller?20:21
DaSkreechhyper_ch: installed lame ?20:21
hyper_chDaSkreech: yes20:21
hyper_chDaSkreech: I have to retry later20:22
DragnslcrDaSkreech- yeah20:24
ubuntuhyper_ch: smaller20:25
hyper_chubuntu: good luck20:25
DaSkreechDragnslcr: setup plasma the way you want then type kquitapp plasma; plasma in terminal or krunner20:25
DaSkreechDragnslcr: Should save everything20:25
ubuntuhyper_ch: why?20:25
DragnslcrDaSkreech- nice, thanks20:25
hyper_chubuntu: because I have no clue20:26
DaSkreechubuntu: What are you using to resize?20:26
CoJaBo-EeeWhat all can I try to get a stubborn system to boot Kubuntu?20:27
DaSkreechCoJaBo-Eee: How stubborn?20:27
CoJaBo-EeeDaSkreech: It gets past the loading screen, then the monitor just starts to flash between off and black :/20:28
DaSkreechCoJaBo-Eee: What happens if you press Alt+Ctrl+F1 ?20:28
CoJaBo-EeeIt stops flashing, the keyboard lights (capslock, etc) stop responding, but continues to do nothing.20:30
CoJaBo-EeeIIRC, acpi=off and noapic got it to boot on an older version, but checking them seems to have no effect.20:30
DaSkreechCan ou boot the older kernel?20:31
CoJaBo-EeeHow?20:31
DaSkreechYou should be able to select old kernels before the loading screen20:32
DaSkreech where it says Press esc to see the menu with a 5 second countdown20:32
CoJaBo-EeeI'm trying to boot to the live CD.20:33
DaSkreechOh poo20:33
DaSkreechYou haven't tried the alternate CD yet?20:34
DaSkreechlegodude_: Dude :)20:36
CoJaBo-EeeNo, hoping to avoid downloading something else and then burning it right now, would just like to test if it runs on this computer20:36
CoJaBo-EeeIs there an option to boot without loading the GUI to see if that at least works?20:37
DaSkreech!iso20:37
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.20:37
DaSkreechWait that wasn't it20:37
DaSkreech!install20:37
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate20:37
DaSkreechCoJaBo-Eee: try that last link20:38
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CoJaBo-EeeTheres only about 30mb of free space on the drive tho lol20:40
DaSkreechHa ha whats on it now/20:41
mrunagi__im trying to upgrade and i get 'there was an error commiting changes. possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break pakages'......any ideas?20:42
DaSkreechmrunagi__: maybe there was a problem downloading it or committing it?20:45
mrunagi__obviously...........i guess i was more or less looking for ideas on fixing it20:45
DaSkreechmrunagi__: Did it say what package this was on?20:45
mrunagi__no20:46
Armagguedesis it just me or have a lot of packages previously present in Hardy's repositories gone missing after Intrepid came out?20:46
DaSkreechtry sudo apt-get -f install20:46
DaSkreechArmagguedes: not you20:47
Armagguedes"not you" what kind of english is that? i don't get it20:49
DaSkreechIs it me or is it ...20:51
DaSkreech It's not you20:51
rogue780can anyone recommend a good ide for python 3?20:51
Tm_Trogue780: bash and/or Kdevelop ?20:51
Tm_TKate alone is quite fine for writing code20:51
DaSkreechkate20:51
rogue780thanks20:52
Stormcr0wHello everyone. I've just upgraded Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 and am wondering how easy it is (a) to install Kubuntu's KDE 4.1, (b) to switch between Kubuntu and Ubuntu (or KDE and Gnome)20:56
Tm_TStormcr0w: easy20:56
Tm_TStormcr0w: you switch between KDE and GNOME in login screen, select session type20:56
Stormcr0wTm_T: thanks for the info, but what do I do to get to that point?21:03
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Stormcr0wTm_T: I assume I need to apt-get some packages from within Ubuntu first21:04
Stormcr0wTm_T: ... before the sessions become available21:04
Stormcr0wTm_T: also, will my settings still be there for me when I switch desktops? i.e. wireless connection settings, etc?21:05
Tm_TStormcr0w: kubuntu-desktop ?21:05
Tm_TStormcr0w: I have no idea about wireless21:05
Stormcr0wTm_T: kubuntu-desktop is the name of the package?21:06
p_quarlesStormcr0w: that's the name of the full desktop metapackage; there are other metapackages as well: kde-core, kde, maybe some others21:08
Stormcr0wp_quarles: thanks, what is the difference between these metapackages?21:09
p_quarlesStormcr0w: just the number of packages they contain; kubuntu-desktop is somehwere in between kde-core and kde -- it's a nice working middle ground21:10
p_quarleskde-core installs only the basics, whereas kde installs everything you can imagine, multiplied by 421:11
Stormcr0wp_quarles: by 4?21:11
p_quarlesStormcr0w: I exaggerate, maybe21:13
Stormcr0wp_quarles: ah, ok. So with kubuntu-desktop you get all you would get if you had installed Kubuntu straight from the Kubuntu livecd?21:15
p_quarlesStormcr0w: yep21:15
Stormcr0wp_quarles: brilliant! thanks!21:16
Stormcr0wp_quarles: I'll give it a try right away21:17
dstarI'm seeing something _weird_ all of the sudden... when I click on eg File in a menu, there's garbage in the dropdown box for a fraction of a second before the correct contents are drawn...21:24
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dstarhuh. Except it's not happening in Konversation, which also happens not to have picked up the theme I'm using.21:25
dstaranyone seen anything like that?21:25
DaSkreechStormcr0w: try KDE 4.221:26
DaSkreechdstar: Yeah it should be fixed shortly there is a post on KDE Blogs aboutit21:26
dstarDaSkreech: KDE blogs?21:27
DaSkreechhttp://planetkde.org21:28
dstarDaSkreech: that would explain it... my google turned up kdedevelopers.org21:29
dstarDaSkreech: You know if you can change the tooltip delay? Googling isn't helpful....21:29
simon__Bonne année à tous21:30
DaSkreechdstar: I don't know but I suspect it will be there soon if not there now. #kde might be able to say21:31
DaSkreech!fr21:31
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr21:31
michaelhello21:33
DaSkreech!hi21:33
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!21:33
dstarDaSkreech: Thanks for the pointer, btw. Weird that it just started happening to me....21:45
BluesKajhowdy21:58
Arautohi, how to install a trident cyberblade drive on kubuntu ??22:03
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BluesKajhi TwinDragons22:11
dstarI've got a bulit-in wireless adapter (wlan0) and a usb adapter (ra0). When I boot, networkmanager automatically connects both to my wireless network. How do I tell it not to?22:32
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Guest27133can anyone help me............i upgraded now x wont start....libxdmcp.so.6: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory23:02
DaSkreechGuest27133: Do you have a libxdmcp.so.6 ?23:02
DaSkreechGuest27133: Upgraded to what?23:03
DaSkreechAre you on the machine now?23:03
Guest27133i dunno what libxdmcp.so.6 is, upgraded to icy irony or whatever the version is now lol23:03
cuzntmaybe guest fell asleep23:03
Guest27133!version23:03
ubottuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »23:03
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DaSkreechGuest27133: Are you logged in on the computer now?23:04
Guestzzzzintrepid23:05
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Guest27133yes23:05
DaSkreechGuest27133: type locate libxdmcp.so.623:05
Guest27133comes back with just a prompt23:08
Guest27133and ideas DaSkreech23:11
DaSkreech!find libxdmcp.so.623:11
ubottuPackage/file libxdmcp.so.6 does not exist in intrepid23:11
DaSkreechGuest27133: try sudo apt-get  update & sudo apt-get dist-upgrade23:12
Guest27133im getting a bunch of 'is not a symbolic link' after dist-upgrade23:14
Guest27133id search it myself but links2 isnt working because of the same reason23:16
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Guest27133its apparently its genkdmconf thats the problem23:18
Guest27133!info genkdmconf23:18
ubottuPackage genkdmconf does not exist in intrepid23:18
DaSkreechWhat is genkdmconf ?23:18
Guest27133i dont know23:18
DaSkreech!info genkdmconf hardy23:19
ubottuPackage genkdmconf does not exist in hardy23:19
Guest27133thats what comes up when i try to start kdm23:19
DaSkreechWhat is the error message23:19
Guest27133genkdmconf: error while loading shared libraries: libxdmcp.so.6: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory23:20
DaSkreechDid you have third party repos ?23:21
Guest27133probably23:21
DaSkreechwell something that's not from Ubuntu has messed up your install23:22
Guest27133how do i fix it23:22
DaSkreechThe easy way would be to reinstall if you have a seperate /home parititon23:23
Guest27133=(23:23
Guest27133can u look up on google for me what that file is?23:24
Guest27133libxdmcp.so23:24
HappySmileMan/usr/bin/genkdmconf DOES exist so not necessarily 3rd party repo causing problems23:25
Guest27133genkdmconf is the program thats failing for kdm start but i get the same error for links3223:25
Guest27133links223:25
HappySmileManGuest27133: Do you have libxdmcp6 installed?23:26
HappySmileMantry apt-get install libxdmcp623:27
Guest27133HappySmileMan: when i try that it says it doesnt know what that is23:36
HappySmileManHmm, not sure the problem23:37
Guest27133can u search google for me?23:37
DaSkreech!info  libxdmcp623:39
ubottulibxdmcp6 (source: libxdmcp): X11 Display Manager Control Protocol library. In component main, is standard. Version 1:1.0.2-3 (intrepid), package size 16 kB, installed size 76 kB23:39
DaSkreechGuest27133: Are you sure?23:39
Guest27133apt-get install libdmcp6 says newest version23:40
jmoabola gostaria de instalar uma barra do tipo dock no kubuntu, é ppossivel???23:41
DaSkreechGuest27133: libxdmcp623:41
Guest27133thats what i meant23:41
DaSkreech!pt23:42
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.23:42
jmoabvlw23:42
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JediatNight!br23:45
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.23:45
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ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)23:45
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ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke23:45
JediatNight!sk23:45
ubottuŽiadame slovenských používateľov aby v kanáli #ubuntu hovorili po anglicky. Slovensky a česky sa dohovoríte v #ubuntu-cz.23:45
JediatNight!hr23:45
ubottuOdgovarajuci kanal za Hrvatski jezik je #ubuntu-hr, molimo Vas da se pridruzite tom kanalu ukoliko trebate pomoc za Ubuntu, hvala.  Croatian language support in #ubuntu-hr23:45
cuznt!fr23:45
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr23:45
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ubottuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se23:45
cuzntoui?23:46
JediatNight!de23:46
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, und #edubuntu-de23:46
Guest27133so no ideas?23:47
dstar_...okay, wth? All of the sudden, resizing a window is _painfully_ slow -- as in, 4 seconds to resize a konsole window two characters wider.23:47
HappySmileManGuest27133: Sorry no, if it happened after a dist-upgrade it's probably a fairly big problem23:48
HappySmileManIf you have a USB drive or anything I'd recommend backing up your /home and reinstalling23:48
Guest27133sigh i think linux as much as a pain as windows23:48
HappySmileManIt can be, I never do a dist-upgrade for this reason23:48
cuzntyou can undo an upgrade]23:49
Guest27133so what do u do23:49
cuzntwait a sec ok23:49
levidosi have a very annoying problem... when using bittorrent for an hour my wireless network disconects and i cant reconnect until i reboot my computer. init.d/networking restart is not working, nor ifconfig wlan0 up then down...23:49
cuzntsudo apt-get dselect-upgrade23:50
Guest27133so u dont upgrade?23:50
cuznti thought you had a prob after upgrading23:50
cuznt[18:48] <HappySmileMan> Guest27133: Sorry no, if it happened after a dist-upgrade it's probably a fairly big problem23:50
Guest27133i did23:51
cuzntok SO to see if the upgrade is the prob23:51
cuzntdo23:51
HappySmileManGuest27133: I download the CD and then backup my files and install from scratch every 6 months23:51
cuzntsudo apt-get dselect-upgrade23:51
cuzntfollow the intructions23:51
cuzntreally23:51
HappySmileManOf course that's a lot easier when you already store all your important files on a separate hard drive23:52
cuzntjebus and baby jebus23:52
DaSkreechGuest27133: Ok ready to start fixing?23:52
cuznti think i kick him in his groin by accident23:53
cuzntit was an accident really....23:53
HappySmileMancuznt: What?23:53
Guest27133i just did dselectt23:53
Guest27133brb23:53
cuzntnot worth repeating esscuzeme23:54
ceemis there a german ubuntu supporter channel i can join?23:55
ceemir can i get here help for problems?23:55
cuznt!de23:55
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, und #edubuntu-de23:55
HappySmileManceem: ubuntu-de23:55
ceemthx23:55
mrunagiwell that didnt work...........dselect that is, still in shell23:58
dstar_...okay, wth? All of the sudden, resizing a window is _painfully_ slow -- as in, 4 seconds to resize a konsole window two characters wider.23:58
dstar_Anyone ever seen this?23:59

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