[00:02] hi, does kubuntu livecd come with k3b? [00:41] hi i just installed kde in ubuntu. I have a second monitor plugged in. how do it make the monitor extend instead of clone my original monitor [00:46] is there a way to cap HDD usage for a specifc user in kubuntu? [00:49] why can't I install katapult? what has it been replaced with? [00:54] Jonty_- the regular run dialog (alt-F2) has a lot of the features of katapult now [00:55] Jonty_: i think is krunner [00:55] yeah, that's right [00:58] m4v: ohhh [00:58] cheers [00:59] Dragnslcr too. Thanks. === julian_ is now known as julian__ === kiosk is now known as kiosk_ === kiosk_ is now known as kiosk__ === kiosk__ is now known as gguuest [01:08] everytime i go "back" with konquer from a subdirectory to my "home" directory, it never returns like it was before, it always returns one row lower( i always have to scroll up to see the top line each time i go back) HOW DO I FIX THIS CRAP? === gguuest is now known as kiosk_ === kiosk_ is now known as gguuest [01:08] prometheus77: kde4? [01:09] prometheus77: i can't replicate the problem [01:09] kde 3.4.2? [01:09] prometheus77: oh. an old version of kubuntu? [01:09] no? [01:10] i am just not using kde 4 [01:10] whatever the latest kde3.x is [01:10] prometheus77: ah. well... kde4 version doesn't have the bug :-) [01:10] prometheus77: you could file a bug report (bugs.kde.org) [01:10] k :( [01:10] prometheus77: but not sure if it would be fixed. not many developers use kde3 anymore [01:11] prometheus77: or you could switch to kde4 :-) kde 4.2 is out soon, and it's pretty stable [01:11] prometheus do you have dolphin kde4 installed?> [01:11] cuznt: probably [01:12] try using that instead [01:12] i might restart into kde4 to see if it is same bug also [01:12] i think i had that before [01:13] i just hate the feeel of dolphin, it reminds me of gnome....... where did the tabs go in dolphin? [01:13] good point [01:14] and what is the red - or the green + mean? [01:14] when you click on the folder [01:15] merry christmas [01:15] prometheus77: kde4 has konqueror as well [01:15] prometheus77: dolphin has tabs [01:16] how does one start a vnc server in kubuntu 8.10? [01:16] dolphin has tabs? prove it lol, i just tried and nothing [01:17] dolphin tabs: ctrl-shift-n [01:17] prometheus77: well in kde4 it does [01:17] File->New tab [01:17] i think the kde3 version doesn't [01:18] i must have the kde version [01:18] so strange [01:18] Tinason: Add install software [01:18] Tinason: type in 'vnc' [01:18] JohnFlux: how do i unstall kde3? [01:21] i have kubuntu and two monitors. how do i make the second monitor extend the other instead of cloning? [01:22] prometheus77: maybe easiest to just get a 8.10 CD and upgrade? [01:22] also i just try to install gnome and it says "install(BREAKS) [01:23] prometheus77: do: cat /etc/issue [01:23] prometheus77: what does that say? [01:26] k [01:26] Ubuntu 8.04.1 \n \l [01:27] how to did i upgrade without doing a full reinstall? === root is now known as Guest38628 === steve__ is now known as steve555 [02:12] hola [02:13] hi [02:13] i need a download counter program [02:19] hi [02:22] cherry2000: What? [02:22] !hi [02:22] Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! === kurumin is now known as kurumin__ [02:42] oi [02:42] alguem ai [02:42] ???????????????? === kurumin__ is now known as kurumin [02:48] !pt [02:48] Por favor use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado. === surma is now known as matti_ [03:24] I'm trying to enable my ATI drivers, but when I click the activate button it just grays out and hangs until I close it. can anyone help me? [03:25] !ati [03:25] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [03:30] hi [03:31] !hi [03:31] Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! [03:33] tried to boot the kubuntu intrepid desktop cd.. it gets all the way to the kde 4.1 splash and freezes after the 4th activity "icon" is displayed.. ctrl-alt-f1 (etc) are not effective, however the mouse pointer moves.. any ideas ? [03:34] calamari: tried safe vdeo mode? [03:34] no I haven't [03:35] thanks.. that's a good idea [03:36] in kde 4.2 under intrepid, I notice that the (what I call the) taskbar is now blue. I also noticed that when you do mouse overs on the icons, it's white text on a black background. How do I change the black background? [03:45] is anyone here to answer my question? [03:45] !ask | White_Pelican [03:45] White_Pelican: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [03:45] I already asked [03:45] so you did [03:46] White_Pelican: so you're asking how to change the taskbar preview background color, correct? [03:48] correct [03:48] okay, well, I haven't seen a GUI option for changing that, but it should be an attribute of the Plasma theme you're using. [03:50] so, hypoethically, if you can find where the themes are stored, you could change it; hint: it's not in /usr/share/kde4/config [03:51] ok, how do I actually change the themes? I am very new to kde 4 [03:51] have been using kde 3 for years [03:51] White_Pelican: I'm saying that I really don't know [03:51] ok, that's fair [03:51] White_Pelican: I think change the theme [03:51] ty for trying [03:52] I'm working on the assumption that there is an XML or text file somewhere that defines theme attributes [03:52] White_Pelican: Right click the desktop -> appearance Settings -> theme [03:52] if I stumble across such a thing, i'll let you know; otherwise, someone here probably knows, but may be idling at the moment [03:53] DaSkreech: you can change the theme, but there is no tool for customizing the themes there [03:53] Ah that's what's needed? yeah probably have to hand roll ot for now [03:55] such things are usually in the /usr/share/ area of the filesystem, but I couldn't find it on a quick look; I'm sure it's there somewhere though [03:56] Most likely in ~/.kde/share/apps [03:56] no, that would store files owned by the user -- we're looking for something that would be shared by all users on the system, so it would not be in anyone's home directory [03:59] White_Pelican: Are we? [04:01] I just want to, through some kind of control settings, to be able to change themes [04:08] Don't think there are control schemes yet [04:09] hello. i have a intel MacBook. What's the easiest way to run kubuntu? [04:09] thanks for all your help folks [04:09] little by little, kde 4 is getting there [04:10] White_Pelican: sorry I could offer more; maybe look at kde-look.org for hints [04:10] couldn't* :) [04:10] lkingzin: From a LIve Cd [04:10] dashreech: thanks... will none of the downloads from the website work? [04:11] lkingzin: that *is* a download from the web site . . . [04:11] lkingzin: The downloads from the website is a Live Cd [04:11] ah [04:12] so for my Intel Macbook, I would select Kunbuntu 8.10, and then a 54bit AMD and Intel computers [04:12] then download? [04:12] 54 = 64 [04:12] Русские есть? [04:12] !ru [04:12] Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [04:13] DaSkreech: whats that? [04:13] lkingzin: If you wanted the 54 Bit edition [04:13] ;-) [04:13] 32 bit or 64 bit is a matter of choice [04:13] lol. would the "standard personal computer" download work [04:14] on my macbook? [04:14] yes [04:14] Yes [04:14] I have a problem where wine crashes X when I try to switch to fullscreen [04:15] sweeeet [04:15] Known issue. Should be fixed (hopefully) by Jaunty [04:15] that should be somewhere in the faq page, didn't see it though [04:15] DaSkreech: my issue? [04:16] Yes [04:16] is it in launchpad? [04:16] If you have an Intel Mac then you are alright [04:18] grrrr [04:19] seems modesetting messes up the xserver [04:22] grrrr [04:23] okay i have another Q -- can i somehow put the .ISO file onto a thumb drive and boot from that? [04:23] !usb [04:23] For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent === tina is now known as aniT [04:27] * genii hands bazhang a large coffee [04:29] does anyone know how to set up the weather station widgit in 4.2 [04:29] ? [04:30] Nope :( [04:30] oh well, embryonic stages [04:31] * DaSkreech hands genii spiced coffee liqueur [04:31] DaSkreech: Yay! [04:31] White_Pelican: No it was working in Beta 1 I think it just got a bad week in Beta 2 [04:31] happened to get caught at a non working stage [04:32] ah [04:32] well I am starting to like it but will not switch till 4.2 is official [04:32] the good news is, it's starting to do what I could do in 3.5 [04:33] save for some things like themes [04:33] I don't think the average user is going to want to fiddle with a text file in their .kde folder imho [04:34] I'm still on 8.04/3.5.10 for this lappie for now [04:35] I just installed the 4.2 beta today. Very impressed so far [04:35] Two of the things at the top of my list have been fixed [04:38] And the updated version of phonon fixed my knotify crashes [04:46] What were the top two? [04:49] Dragnslcr: ? [04:50] Quicklaunch widget and multiple rows in the taskbar [04:54] how stable is the beat 4.2? [04:54] and, will it nicely upgrade when the official 4.2 comes out? [04:56] Wasn't quick launch in 4.1? [04:56] legodude: Good and yes [04:57] is there a good document somewhere that gives a general overview of ubuntu package environment? [04:57] and how it all interacts? [04:57] can I easily undo 4.2 if I don't like it? [04:57] !apt [04:57] APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE) [04:58] legodude: Fairly [04:59] that's not really what I'm looking for [04:59] what were you looking for? [05:00] how are packages created, what about branches, how does one properly track changes to a package [05:00] mostly the second one [05:00] !motu [05:00] motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU [05:00] Branches? [05:01] some developer puts up a new version of package X on his private repo [05:01] or this beta 4.2 [05:01] how exactly does this interact with the official package stream [05:01] right [05:01] I've never gotten a good feel for that [05:01] There is a version number on each package [05:01] Highest number wins [05:01] !ppa [05:01] With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart. [05:01] ah [05:02] got it [05:02] thought there was something more to it [05:02] what about package creation? [05:03] So if you add a new repo then it has a higher version number and when your package manager goes through them all the new repo wins and the packages are upgraded [05:03] bazhang: thanks for that link [05:03] I don't understand the last question either [05:04] try /msg ubottu packaging [05:04] Ok, so finally am able to get Skype to hear my microphone, but the level and boost have to be so high that all I can hear is the sound from my own microphone and can't hardly hear anything else. Is there anyway to stop the microphone feeding back through the speakers/ [05:04] ? [05:21] upgrade to 4.2 almost done [05:29] how do you like it? [05:31] 4.2 [05:31] how do you like it legodude ? [05:31] soooo much nicer [05:31] this is ridiculous [05:32] nothing major from my extensive 3min experience [05:32] but attention to detail is so much better [05:32] jesus [05:32] wow [05:33] I'm really impressed [05:33] :-D [05:34] some stuff is still funky, like my volume buttons don't do anything to amarok sounds [05:34] but overall _much_ nicer [05:34] like, if I put a window under the panel, I can still read app names [05:36] jaunty looks to be what I hoped intrepid would be [05:36] seems faster? [05:37] Might be can't judge till Jauny comes out [05:37] can't resize app launcher boo [05:38] my icons in system tray display properly [05:38] not all corrupted as before [05:39] Menu resizes here [05:39] ah you can only grab upper right corner [05:46] yep [05:47] except for some borked widgets [05:47] seems pretty darn nice [05:49] impressive with a capital K [05:50] I take back the evil thoughts I have been having recently [05:53] alright, thanks for the advice and nite [05:59] legodude: Which borked widgets? === keres is now known as keres`zZz === usuario is now known as w41tm3 [06:36] hi [06:37] !hello | scandune [06:37] scandune: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! [06:37] bots? [06:37] I'm not, ubottu is [06:37] ah i see [06:38] scandune: did you have a support question? :) [06:38] nope just really bored [06:38] well actually i might [06:39] when i leave my laptop on and then i use the web sometimes my panel buttons and desktop icons fail to work so i have to hard restart [06:40] got nothin? [06:40] hard restart? meaning that the system is totally unresponsive? [06:40] yeah [06:40] well unresponsive to new programs [06:40] can you log out of X? [06:40] new meaning starting a new session [06:41] nope i cant even get into my terminal :( [06:41] scandune: what have you specifically tried? ctrl-alt-backspace? ctrl-alt-F2? [06:41] yeah [06:42] sorry about that lost my internet [06:42] scandune: so, is there anything that you *can* do at that point? [06:43] well if someone messages me on pidgin i can type back [06:43] but thats about it [06:44] it will let me click on my panel buttons and it will initiale but it will fail [06:45] scandune: well, that's definitely a weird one; don't know what to tell you other than to scan your logs for any hints [06:45] https://gnud.wordpress.com/ about ubuntu [06:45] scandune: if I had to place money, I'd say it's the video chips [06:46] maybe its the dell mini 9 so i would have thought it would have been ok [06:46] but they did mess with the programming a lil bit [06:46] hmm -- well then it might be defective; I'd take it up with Dell [06:47] I mean, you have a system that actually shipped with Ubuntu -- take advantage of that :) [06:47] i know [06:47] one of the reasons why i got it [06:47] plus it was only 500 [06:48] i tried installing other distros on it, but the sound never worked [06:48] stupid alsa [06:50] another ? is my package manager list always seems to be old meaning i check for new versions but it always reverts back [06:51] scandune: for instance? [06:52] it appears in my panel [06:52] to update my list [06:52] i click check [06:52] and then it still says its 8 days old [06:52] I mean an example of a package that says it needs updating, but then isn't [06:52] i also did it in terninal [06:52] same deal [06:53] na its just checking the list to see if there is an update available [06:56] scandune: so it says there is, but there isn't? I'm not understanding [07:02] ?? [07:02] says would you like to check [07:02] so i check and it says my lists are 8 days old so it d/l new ones then reverts back to old [07:06] morning [07:07] scandune: so you run apt-get update and it does the same thing? sounds like your system is pretty broken; don't know what to say [07:08] I installed a fresh 8.10 installation (with kde 4.1). KDE apps keep crashing and I'm wondering if I could get rid of this by using KDE 3.5? [07:09] can I easily downgrade to 3.5 or should I just re-install the system (I've been using this for a day now and have installed a bunch of software already :) ? [07:15] reinstall [07:16] bugger... [07:18] do you reckon that problems (apps crashing) is caused by the kde version? [08:13] Hello all :) I did an upgrade to server-8.10 with vmware-server2 on it. I have no longer a keyboards in the vm's. Can someone help? [08:21] blackflag: what did you do? [08:31] I did an upgrade to server-8.10 and to the latest vmware-server2. Now I dont have keybords in the vm-console's [08:33] hey guys...after upgrading to intrepid (and kde 4) my login screen assumes a qwerty keyboard. Once i am logged in my azerty keyboard is promptly recognized....is this a new security feature? :oP Seriously....how can I correct it? [08:40] Whenever I copy data to a USB Flash Disk, it is copied very very slowly(about 200 to 400 kbps) why? in 8.04 it was normal. I am facing this problem ever since I installed 8.10 === Evil_DuDe_ is now known as Evil_DuDe [08:48] is anybody here [08:50] anyone online [08:51] hi people [08:51] merry christmas passed and happy new year [08:52] now, i lost the icon of knetworkconf [08:52] what i can do to have it back? [08:52] how did you lose it [08:53] i don't know [08:53] i think making the command pppoeconf to terminal [08:53] is it possible? [09:00] I am facing a pecular problem, sometimes the computer boots normally, some times it just shows a black screen instead of login screen [09:02] by people [09:25] what is the lightest flavour of linux?....ubuntu, kubuntu or something else...??????? [09:26] what [09:34] can anybody help me? === desti_T2 is now known as desti [09:46] for what [09:47] why is ubuntu & kubuntu keeps logging out in the middle of my work?...512mb of ram really low for them????????? [09:48] why is ubuntu & kubuntu keeps logging out in the middle of my work?...512mb of ram really low for them????????? [09:49] why is ubuntu & kubuntu keeps logging out in the middle of my work?...512mb of ram really low for them????????? [09:49] anybody??????? [09:51] mayank: how does RAM come into this [09:52] so u tell me [09:53] i was using ubuntu and install it 5-10-15 times(wubi) but in the middle of my work...its just freeze or logout...what i do [09:54] now today i have install kubuntu...same problem...logout in the middle of my work......... [09:56] now today i have install kubuntu...same problem...logout in the middle of my work......... [09:56] hellllooooooooo????? [10:13] Can somebody tell me where I can get the ext2 defrag tool is? I can't seem to find it in Ubuntu distros. [10:14] hello [10:15] I've got a problem when using new kmail 4.2 beta2 under gnome: there is no window decoration around the window...under kde4 it seems to work just fine...does anoyone have an idea about this? [10:16] hi people [10:17] how can I get the text betwen two double quotes? With mawk or sed? [10:35] I have an idea that would 'expand' this: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuJauntySetup . Should I add it or ask Riddell or ask someone else? === paul__ is now known as Gado === monzie|home is now known as monzie|work [11:43] Ash-Fox: defrag is a rather bad idea. Just copy it, reforma,t and back. [11:52] Is this the main Kubuntu chat channel or should I be somewhere else? [11:53] This is the main kubuntu chat [11:53] thanks [11:53] how can I in kde4 open a application in a saved session in a specific desktop? === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde [11:57] hyper__ch: In the window specific settings you can specify a desktop - maybe that would solve your problem. [11:57] I have to try :) tzhx [12:03] does anyone know if the gtk and compiz issues with KDE4 and the nvidia drivers have been solved by the latest driver release? [12:03] idk [12:04] i know that kde has its own effects and you do not need compiz [12:05] and i have zero nvidia issues [12:06] ic - but when I tried KDE4 a few months ago there were issues with some gtk apps and some crazy screen effects === PolitikerNEU is now known as PolitikerALT [12:07] I googled this and found a bug that said the nvidia driver was to blame [12:07] but there is a new driver out now [12:08] so I wondered if anyone knows about this [12:09] what driver do you have cuznt? [12:11] hold on [12:12] will do :) [12:13] i use a 5500 gforce SO i have nvidia accelerated graphis driver version 173 [12:13] ok - thanks [12:13] the 1st time did not work [12:13] i had to uninstalled reboot reload [12:14] helo [12:14] nvivida can be weird... keep trying it will work. and I am low on the programming geek scale... so if i can do it ***ANYONE CAN*** [12:14] ty :) [12:16] My problem is that I have to decide whether to upgrade again - last time it was so bad I went back to kde 3.5, which was a pita to do [12:17] I have KDE4 on my laptop with a intel graphics and it runs fine [12:29] i would back everything up and do a clean install [12:30] as big a pita as that it is [12:31] it was not exactly the correct way to do it.... BUT.... it solved all my issues [12:31] Hmm.. My 5500 works here no issues : [12:31] 8800gtsXXX also [12:31] but a lot depends on the exact video card it seems [12:31] mine does too... but i d/l'd a clean install vs upgrade.. [12:32] as i stated my 5500 worls spiffy [12:32] also [12:33] i know now when i chose a restriced driver. it was a bit more resolute [12:33] sorry - went to get a drink [12:33] actually my 5500 machine was a upgrade.. [12:34] I have a 6600GT [12:34] thats a good idea. liquor helps with the frustration.. ;) [12:34] :) [12:35] cuznt I agree - I probably will do a clean install this time - just trying to make sure it is worth the effort [12:36] i use an athalon (not 64) 1.5g ram 160g hard drive. my pc has never run better [12:36] my issue is i can "see" my wifes pc [12:36] and she can not see mine [12:37] did you install samba and share a folder? [12:37] oh yes === carlos is now known as Guest65504 [12:37] Guest? === cuznt is now known as guest420 === guest420 is now known as cuznt [12:38] hey i am a musician also.. :) [12:38] me too as it happens === Guest65504 is now known as carlos_ [12:39] hi, short question, how do i see the kernel boot printks, and all output from the init process in kubuntu ? [12:40] grma: I think dmesg provides what you want to see. [12:40] do you mean during boot? [12:40] yes i know dmesg, but i want to see it direct on starting [12:40] i have included some scripts in rc.local, but the do not run, so i want to see the error whay [12:41] You could try switching to console 12 - I guess it's printed there. Or on 2, maybe. [12:41] s/whay/why [12:41] you need to change menu.lst in /boot/grub [12:41] ahh ok, thanks will try [12:41] ok, ah there is quiet enabled in grub [12:41] yes [12:41] thx will try [12:41] merry xmas channel...need some help getting my sound restored after I removed a tuner from the box...no driver even shows up in kmix [12:42] get rid of quiet and splash [12:42] did you ensure sound was not diabled in bios? [12:43] !sound [12:43] If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [12:43] i haven't checked it recently, but it was certainly enabled in bios...worked fine before [12:44] maybe someting else jarred loose. [12:44] i removed tuner, removed single set of mono speakers for a few days, and did expect sound to work again after i reattached speakers, but no... [12:44] perhaps...but why wouldn't my old driver show up in kmixer? [12:45] if nothing is attached kmix shows nothing === sean is now known as Guest37426 [12:45] wheni take out my sound card. i get an empty kmix [12:46] its possible the driver does not load if it does not see the hardware ? ??? [12:46] Kopote crashes when i click conffiguuure. i think it it my TV card. can someone heeeelp? [12:46] hmmm...ok...that would make sense, except that i've got onboard sound... [12:46] ah [12:47] as do i but its disabled im bios [12:47] sis on board sound was horrendous === Guest37426 is now known as sean__ === sean__ is now known as seanw__ [12:48]