[03:57]  * Hobbsee twitches
[03:57] <Hobbsee> 287 mails in the ubuntu-devel moderation queue.
[03:57] <Hobbsee> *So* not touching that...
[03:58] <ebroder> They're all spam. Trash them all!
[03:58] <Hobbsee> no, most of them are mark's thing about desktop pictures
[03:58] <Hobbsee> or were last time
[08:47] <pwnguin> https://usshop.ubuntu.com/product.php?catid=1&code=09%2013003BK
[08:48] <pwnguin> so here's a question: is that logo in keeping with the mark? technically, you're not supposed to have anyone at the top, to symbolize equality
[08:48] <pwnguin> i have no idea how that works when you rotate the whole thing
[11:41] <slytherin> Can any archive admin please tell me what is the time for next auto sync from Debian?
[11:42] <persia> slytherin, DIF has well passed for most of the globe.  More autosyncs are unlikely.
[11:42] <persia> heh.  Actually, DIF finished 42 minutes ago.
[11:43] <slytherin> Oh. I haven't kept my eye on calendar then. I thought DIF was 31st December
[11:43] <slytherin> persia: I guess I will have to log bugs then.
[11:44] <persia> Most likely, yes.
[12:44] <imachine> tseliot, are you around?
[12:44] <imachine> tseliot, I have some troubles trying to load 180-intrepid onto intrepid.
[12:44] <imachine> some info would be appreciated ;]
[12:54] <tseliot> imachine: did you file a bug report?
[12:57] <imachine> tseliot, about?
[12:57] <imachine> no, I downloaded files from bazaar
[12:57] <imachine> 180-intrepid
[12:58] <imachine> and I need some guidance on how to make a .deb file out of the resulting directory
[12:58] <imachine> as regards previous, hmm. I'll look at mentioning a bug in .nv
[12:58] <tseliot> imachine: that's just an experiment. The branches are not ready
[12:59] <imachine> tseliot, so I can't build anything from those files?
[13:00] <imachine> I'm aware it's uber-testing. I just wanted to see how it works ho.
[13:00] <imachine> *tho
[13:00] <tseliot> imachine: no, not yet
[13:00] <imachine> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nv/+bug/128413 <- here's the bug report from our previous discussion.
[13:00] <imachine> about nv being an arse :-)
[13:00] <imachine> tseliot, okay, I'll wait I guess. I hear thre's some issues with 180 and suspend as well.
[13:01] <tseliot> yep, right
[13:07] <NCommander> Can a build admin kill yorick on armel? Its been building for the better part of a week, I think its stuck in an infinite loop
[18:35] <RainCT> If /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic sets a setting, it can be overriden with another file there starting by a higher number, right?
[22:05] <maxb> I was looking some binary-outdate-w.r.t.-source packages... cmucl has been FTBFS since *hoary* ! - there's a bug, but it was last active 10 months ago. Is it worth nominating the bug for jaunty and/or subscribing ubuntu-archive to get more eyes on it?
[22:06] <maxb> bug 31098 ftr
[22:08] <cjwatson> please don't subscribe ubuntu-archive unless there is confirmed action for an archive administrator to perform
[22:08] <cjwatson> which generally does not include FTBFS-type problems that should be fixed by developers
[23:15] <NCommander> wow
[23:15] <NCommander> I had 36GB worth of debs in pbuilder/*/-results O_o;
[23:25] <RainCT> Hi
[23:26] <RainCT> How can I add a new recommends to ubuntu-desktop? I'm not sure if I understand how ubuntu-meta works..
[23:28] <Hobbsee> RainCT: I have to go out RSN, but i'll give you the general idea.
[23:29] <Hobbsee> RainCT: ~ubuntu-dev bzr has a whole bunch of stuff, including some seeds
[23:29] <Hobbsee> the seeds are named ubuntu.jaunty and such
[23:29] <Hobbsee> you can check them out and have a look.  the ones in parenthesis are recommends
[23:29] <Hobbsee> (there's a readme for the different sections, including 'desktop')
[23:30] <Hobbsee> when you run ./update in the ubuntu-meta source package, it pulls the information from bzr, and uses germinate to create lists of dependancies and recommends
[23:30] <Hobbsee> spits you out your deb, and voila
[23:31] <Hobbsee> sorry, ~ubuntu-core-dev, i believe
[23:40] <RainCT> Hobbsee: Ah, I see. And what's if I want to add something directly without having to touch the seeds (as the package is not for Ubuntu itself)? I guess the best in this case would be to just add it to debian/control?
[23:45] <cjwatson> probably, yes
[23:46] <cjwatson> that's strictly forbidden for Ubuntu itself but it's fine if it's outside the archive
[23:50] <RainCT> Hobbsee, cjwatson: OK, thanks :)
[23:51] <persia> Rather than adding it to debian/control, one can add it to the lists in the package directory, and regenerate, without reference to the seeds, which might be easier to manage later.