[00:00] <wp_> Slart: thx... I found something that I maybe can use ;9
[00:00] <fbc> does ubuntu have an AUTOMATOR like application? You know like the one on a MAC with a gui?
[00:00] <Slart> wp_: alright.. what was it?
[00:00] <Stanlin> help, how can i debug booting problems???
[00:01] <jkenn337> hey, if anyone can help me get ubuntu up and running on my dell dimension8200 can you email me at jkenn337@gmail.com?
[00:01] <Delvien> Stanlin whats the issue?
[00:01] <Slart> fbc: I don't know about the others but I have no idea what you're talking about.. I'm .. using ubuntu.. *surprise* =)
[00:01] <wp_> found the gid
[00:01] <jkenn337> that's, jkenn337@gmail.com ... my name is Josh.
[00:01] <fbc> Stanlin, there's alog that get created upon boot, you might want to check that
[00:01] <Slart> wp_: that sounds familiar
[00:01] <sthiago> Anyone succeded running 8.10 under a VIA chrome9 HC igp?
[00:02] <Stanlin> Delvien: my ATI drivers are missing, the boot hangs, but pushing CTRL + ALT+ DEL continues and boots, but i have no clue where is stucked, is there a way to remove the splash Ubuntu logo and follow the booting messages?
[00:02] <fbc> Slart, ? what are you talking about? which question were you responding to?
[00:03] <Delvien> Stalin boot to recovery mode from grub
[00:03] <matthias__> how can i check if an unit is recognized by ubuntu but not mounted ??
[00:03] <fbc> Stanlin, SYSTEM>>ADMINISTRATION>>system log
[00:03] <Delvien> matthias__: unit?
[00:03] <matthias__> by the USB port
[00:03] <Slart> fbc: "does ubuntu have an AUTOMATOR like application? You know like the one on a MAC with a gui?" I have no idea what AUTOMATOR is..
[00:03] <matthias__> Delvien:  yes i have bought an Zen mp3 player but when i connectthe supplided USB able no icon show up on the desktop ...
[00:03] <Stanlin> fbc thanks
[00:04] <Delvien> matthias__: in a terminal "mount" without quotes, pastebin the results
[00:05] <sthiago> Is it even possible to run chrome9? i cant even get to any  useful screen, on recovery mode i can run root command line, but my attempts didn't work..
[00:05] <matthias__> Delvien:  okey hold on ...
[00:05] <[e]Lement> Is there any quick way in Gnome to change the default icon size, and how far they are spaced apart in columns?
[00:05] <fbc> Slart,  Ahh.. automator is a macro language for the interface.. for example you right click on a file and have it open up in gimp change it into sepia and save it as a gif then open it in thunderbird and attach it to an email
[00:06] <fbc> Slart, On a mac it's very powerful and you can automate alot of tedious tasks.
[00:06] <matthias__> Delvien: http://pastebin.com/d6d8768ff
[00:06] <Slart> fbc: ahh.. well..that sounds very handy.. the only thing I've seen that even comes close would be xmacro.. but I think it's a bit more primitive
[00:07] <spottedzebra> went to ubuntu off topic but they were not helpful. my ext hd recently stopped mounting on windows and ubuntu, the last os it mounted to was ubuntu. it has been experienced to normal usage except dropped a few times ( but i think this is normal, some dont)
[00:07] <hischild> Slart, that's called command line?
[00:07] <Slart> fbc: but I most linux people would use a script
[00:07] <Delvien> matthias__: ok, doesnt look like its recognizing the mp3 player, do a "dmesg" in a terminal and pastebin the results
[00:08] <fbc> Slart, yeah but you can't script inside a program.. you can write a script that will open gimp, but not control it once it's open. right?
[00:08] <spottedzebra> any ideas would be greatly appericated
[00:08] <Slart> fbc: never say never with linux.. most stuff has some kind of python interface or similar
[00:08] <Delvien> spottedzebra: could be that the Hardware failed, is it plugged in right now?
[00:08] <hischild> fbc, but you can use a script to do whatever you would want to have done. Besides, most apps understand CLI commands.
[00:08] <Slart> fbc: and lets not forget.. everything you can do in Gimp you can probably do with imagemagick =)
[00:09] <spottedzebra> Delvien, no but i can get it if you have any ideas
[00:09] <Delvien> spottedzebra: get it, plug it in
[00:09] <justizin> fbc: learn about gnustep if you like mac-style of development, both are based on NeXTStep.
[00:09] <spottedzebra> one second
[00:10] <justizin> also etoile for progressively similar desktop env
[00:10] <sthiago> VIA Chrome9 on 8.10 ne1?
[00:10] <justizin> have to build both from source, no ubuntu packages, to get latest code working, very interesting, not sure how stable.
[00:10] <wp_> Slart: I dound a command under the vfat sying "       uid=value and gid=value" but how do I use that to make gid 46? I tried gid=46, gid 46 and 46 without results
[00:10] <matthias__> Delvien:  http://pastebin.com/d1e7ae445
[00:10]  * justizin has thought of building a GNOMEStep env to have ObjC and CoreFoundation+friend wrapped around GNOME.
[00:11] <Slart> wp_: I'm not sure.. have you tried googling for it? there must be some kind of tutorial out there
[00:11] <spottedzebra> ocRob, you still in here
[00:11] <dbu> hi, this is a gstreamer question, what package do i need to run the gstreamer plugin ffenc_h264p i have gstreamer0.10-plugins- good,ugly,bad,ffmpeg, but it is not in the list in gst-inspect...
[00:11] <fbc> Slart, justizin , Yeah, i was just hoping there was something user friendly already made. That maybe even included a wizard that would walk you through creating your first macro or something of the like.
[00:11] <spottedzebra> Delvien, plugged in. ps im in windows
[00:12] <wp_> Slart: I have seen this kind of documentation before in the man pages, but never had to use it... but I google it then
[00:12] <Delvien> matthias__: new low speed USB device using ehci_hcd & new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd |||| Do you have your bios set to non-standard full/low speed?
[00:12] <justizin> fbc: the environment isn't architecturally similar.  automator relies upon the NeXTStep-derived APIs in OSX's Cocoa..
[00:12] <matthias__> Delvien:  just like to ask you, i have in my linux at work dissabled some tty:s but do not remeber if i did the same here ???, do not think so, i have an USB hub connected top the computer and working but still can i, i have 6 usb connections on the computer and right now using 2 USB ports connected
[00:12] <justizin> sadly, Apple just isn't as excited about F/OSS as I wish they were.  I love my mac's UI, and my ubuntu's console.  it's a sad divergene IMO. :/
[00:12] <Delvien> spottedzebra:I don't assist with windows, can you boot into linux?
[00:12] <justizin> I mean the freakin' company barely cares about selling computers since the iPhone came out.
[00:13] <matthias__> Delvien:  to be honest i have not made any changes in BIOS, this is an Dell laptop, what cna i do right now ???
[00:13] <Delvien> matthias__: Well lets label that as a possibilty, can you plug it into the port on the computer
[00:13]  * justizin is afraid OSX will go the way of amiga and be something most folks never see, but hear about from wrinkled geeks
[00:13] <justizin> (and which isn't, thusly, able to positively influence continued development)
[00:13] <Slart> fbc: mm.. there might very well be something out there but I haven't seen it.. and I think the demand isn't that big since most people would just go with a command line tool instead of starting a clunky interface
[00:13] <fbc> justizin, I know linux would have something better to build off of.  I'm not worried about that.
[00:13] <justizin> you're wrong, sorry.
[00:13] <Delvien> matthias__: still reading over your dmesg. pastebin the results of dmesg | grep -i usb please
[00:13] <spottedzebra> Delvien, yea do you know the terminal command for the applet; its something like /nm -applet but im not sure if that is right
[00:13] <justizin> linux is a kernel, it has absolutely nothing to do with the 1970s-style gui we use.
[00:14] <Slart> fbc: but if you're just going to play with images I would recommend imagemagick.. it does all kinds of tricks.. there are easy command line apps for sending mail too
[00:14] <spottedzebra> Delvien, in ubuntu
[00:14] <xtknight> dbu, you mean x264enc?
[00:15] <justizin> NeXT is the only interesting tech advancement since then in GUI autonomy, and it's only ever been very accepted as OSX.  assuming that our foreward-looking licensing stance, as a community, means we'll have Apple's advancements is a logical fallacy.  We only leave the door open for Apple to use Linux and license more freely.
[00:15] <xtknight> or at least that's an alternative you may use
[00:15] <Delvien> spottedzebra: Plug in the usb and in a terminal "dmesg | grep -i usb" without quotes, pastebin the results
[00:15] <wp_> A man page problem... I have use flags like -a -t -Th before now... but now I got to use a flag called gid=value.... how to use that? tried a lot of combos without succes
[00:15] <dbu> xtknight: maybe, but shouldn't i have ffenc_h264p?
[00:15] <xtknight> dbu, otherwise you may need to compile gstreamer ffmpeg plugin with h264 support inside it.  or something like that.  maybe ./configure options ubuntu has not enabled, or maybe the plugin isnt enabled in that version of gstreamer
[00:16] <xtknight> dbu, im not sure what the p at the end is for?
[00:16] <dbu> xtknight: me neither.
[00:16] <dbu> :P
[00:16] <dbu> 1080p quality maybe?
[00:16] <Delvien> matthias__: I didnt really see anything in your dmesg to say that it was or was not recognizing your mp3 player, is this a brand new one? (guessing since its christmas
[00:16] <Slart> wp_: here's an example.. /dev/sda3       /mnt/fat32       vfat       users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0
[00:16] <spottedzebra> Delvien, sorry wrong idea there, i need the command for ubuntu to get the applet that tells you what networks are avaliable near you, im not in ubuntu ... yet
[00:17] <Slart> wp_: that's for fstab
[00:17] <xtknight> dbu, perhaps.  googling it yields no results.  so i think ffmpeg_h264 would naturally include both progressive and interlaced support though.  anyway, i suggest trying gstreamer and ffmpeg cvs to isolate problem areas
[00:17] <Orchid`> erver/join #winehq
[00:17] <xtknight> ffenc_h264 i mean
[00:17] <matthias__> Delvien: http://pastebin.com/d14f85327 the Zen player is connected and the charging icon is turned on but nothing else ...
[00:17] <Delvien> matthias__: model number?
[00:17] <Slart> wp_: also this page has some info.. and more links http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fstab
[00:17] <Delvien> spottedzebra: Im confused then, werent you haveing a HDD issue?
[00:18] <dbu> xtknight: ty.
[00:18] <wp_> Slart: hmmmm... so i have to write "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/Sony gid=46" to get it working?
[00:18] <Delvien> matthias__: jeeeez how long has your laptop been on?
[00:18] <hischild> Delvien, yes he was
[00:18] <xtknight> yup
[00:18] <Slart> wp_: those commands were for fstab.. I think it's different when using the mount command.. hang on
[00:18] <Delvien> spottedzebra: nm-applet --sm-disable
[00:18] <matthias__> Delvien:  a couple of hours seeing movies ...
[00:18] <sthiago> Chome9 is possible? :)
[00:19] <Delvien> matthias__: i see alot of disconnects.
[00:19] <Delvien> matthias__: what's the model of the Zen?
[00:19] <matthias__> Delvien: well i have some problems eith the wireless so i am connected by cable and nit wirelessly ...
[00:19] <wp_> Slart: I am reading your wiki now... and If I change the fstab then I don't need to write a specifik mount command every time, but maybe I am so lucky that it will auto mount my device?
[00:19] <spottedzebra> Delvien, thats what i needed thanks
[00:20] <Slart> wp_: I think it will be "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/Sony -o uid=XXX,gid=XXX" or something like that
[00:20] <Delvien> spottedzebra: run that with alt F2 or with & at the end of it in the terminal
[00:20] <matthias__> Delvien: hmmm, stupid question but i can not see any model number on it or on the package but let me see the manual
[00:21] <Delvien> matthias__: IOW: name of the player, it shouldnt just say ZEN, if so, I want to smite that company.
[00:21] <Slart> wp_: I don't think you can just set the gid.. but I'm not sure.. as I said.. I've never played around with fat32 enough
[00:22] <pr0nGuy> Hi, I'm installing Ubuntu for the first time.  Is someone available who can guide me through?
[00:22] <matthias__> Delvien:  ZEN CREATIVE with 2.5 inch scrren
[00:22] <matthias__> screen
[00:22] <savvas> wp_: why don't you use ext3?
[00:22] <Delvien> slart wp_ like so "/dev/sdd1       /media/external vfat users,defaults,umask=000 0 0
[00:22] <Delvien> slart wp_ thats for my external drive, usb HDD to be exact.
[00:23] <Slart> Delvien: ah...nice
[00:23] <Delvien> matthias no model number?
[00:23] <piksi> pr0nGuy: i'm leaving in a sec but in most cases there's not much to guide through. burn the ISO to a cd with e.g. infrarecorder and boot it up, follow the instructions
[00:23] <savvas> pr0nGuy: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[00:23] <piksi> pr0nGuy: first boot from the cd to the desktop to see that all devices are detected etc
[00:23] <matthias__> Delvien:  let me check got it as an christmas present ...
[00:23] <pr0nGuy> I already put the disk in and I just started, but I'm sure I'll have some ?s.
[00:23] <piksi> pr0nGuy: and there are good well written walkthroughs on the net (on ubuntus site etc)
[00:24] <grndslm> #ubuntu has gotten too big
[00:24] <Delvien> matthias__: http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=creative+zen+2.5&oe=utf-8&cid=10599385693200212576#ps-sellers ?
[00:25] <Delvien> grndslm: you get used to it. Lots of coffee, and lots of ocular damage.
[00:25] <savvas> grndslm: that's usually good :)
[00:25] <wp_> Delvien savvas slart: The problem is that everytime I mount my vfat drive i am not able to chmod it to 777, (So I am able to load/save music files unto it) it accepts the command but nothing happens
[00:25] <pr0nGuy> piksi: I just started the installation, but I'll ask when there is something I don'tunderstand.
[00:25] <Delvien> wp_ pastbin your /etc/fstab, and also, how are you mounting it?
[00:26] <Delvien> wp_ slart i missed half the convo, sorry for butting in
[00:26] <savvas> wp_: ok, why don't you format your drive to ext3 ? I don't know the situation, but if you need it for windows, you can use the fs-driver: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[00:26] <Slart> Delvien: no worries =)
[00:26] <matthias__> Delvien:  a lot like that one but with 2Gb of memmory ...
[00:26] <UnknownUser56> c
[00:26] <Delvien> savvas shouldnt need that, if its fat32, vfat mounting works fine
[00:26] <wp_> Delvien savvas slart:  sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/Sony -o uid=1000,gid=1000 http://pastebin.com/d18b2139d
[00:27] <Delvien> wp_ why are u using uid and gid to mount? just curious
[00:27] <pr0nGuy> I'm at the "Prepare Disk Space".  I'm not sure which option to chose.
[00:27] <spottedzebra> Delvien: i am not in the ubuntu os
[00:27] <Delvien> spottedzebra: ok?
[00:28] <wp_> Delvien savvas slart: the specific purpose is that it is my sony NWZ-A815 mp3-player I try to mount and load with all my good music... and I don't think its software is to happy getting formatted?
[00:28] <matthias__> Delvien:  the 2GB version is the one, it is the same but less internal memory
[00:28] <Slart> wp_: here's a thread that looks promising.. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-333357.html
[00:28] <savvas> wp_: point taken :)
[00:28] <Elling_> so, im completely new to ubuntu, is installing a usb-stick wireless network adapter as hard as it seems? or am i missing something fundamental? i've done some research into ndiswrapper, but im having trouble getting the instructed terminal commands to work
[00:29] <memimomo> I'm getting this message after trying to get updates: "The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences."
[00:29] <Delvien> in your fstab, append: "/dev/sdb1 /media/Sony vfat users,defaults,umask000 0 0" reboot and see if that works.
[00:29] <spottedzebra> Delvien: here is the command and pastebin of what you told me http://paste.ubuntu.com/92980/
[00:29] <wp_> Delvien: "echo /dev/sdb1 /media/Sony vfat users,defaults,umask000 0 0 >> /etc/fstab"??
[00:30] <savvas> Elling_: did you check out the site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[00:30] <Delvien> wp_ "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[00:30] <Delvien> wp_ paste, save, close, reboot
[00:30] <Delvien> spottedzebra: you need to be in ubuntu for me to help you with this.
[00:31] <spottedzebra> Delvien: i am
[00:31] <Delvien> spottedzebra: You are confusing, you just said you werent. ok. one sec
[00:31] <Delvien> spottedzebra: in a terminal "mount" pastebin results of that command
[00:31] <matthias__> Delvien:  seems i  found in the forum that some program is needed to be installed if that is tru, let m check ...
[00:32] <Delvien> memimomo: add any new repos lately?
[00:32] <Delvien> matthias__: Zens require a "sync" program ive im not mistaken
[00:32] <memimomo> Delvien: no, but I did do some kind of upgrade
[00:32] <memimomo> I'm still on feisty fawn
[00:32] <wp_> Delvien savvas slart: I will try that... but I am going to bed now... thx for the help
[00:32] <Delvien> memimomo: whoa
[00:32] <Delvien> memimomo: those repos may not be available anymore
[00:33] <Delvien> wp_ anytime
[00:33] <memimomo> Delvien: so what do I do?
[00:33] <Slart> wp_: you're welcome
[00:33] <Delvien> memimomo: did your upgrade break anything?
[00:33] <matthias__> Delvien:  i saw this on the forum" ou will need to install "libnjb5" to allow the other programs to access the Zen"
[00:33] <memimomo> delvien: it broke my nvidia drivers but I recoverd with envy
[00:33] <Delvien> matthias__: well there you go, "sudo apt-get install libnjb5"
[00:33] <matthias__> Delvien:  but does it have to do with mount the unit ???
[00:33] <spottedzebra> Delvien: http://paste.ubuntu.com/92983/, here is the command and pastebin of "mount"
[00:34] <Delvien> memimomo: I wouldnt worry about it too much then, revert to normal repos and if it gives you too much trouble dist upgrade to the next version.
[00:34] <Delvien> matthias__: probably. a "handshake" is often required for these wacky mp3 players
[00:35] <memimomo> Delvien: how do I revert to a "normat" repository. I didn't touch the sources.list file
[00:35] <Stanlin> fbc what is the logs im looking for booting?
[00:35] <Delvien> spottedzebra: is the usb HDD plugged in?
[00:35] <matthias__> Delvien:  the Ipod works right out of the box and some cheaper no display players ...
[00:35] <spottedzebra> Delvien: yes
[00:35] <Delvien> memimomo: if you havent changed anything, my best guess is the feisty repos are temporarily broken or no longer maintained.
[00:36] <GreedyB> Does anyone know how to use Maximus for Ubuntu Remix
[00:36] <GreedyB> ?
[00:36] <Slart> !feisty
[00:36] <matthias__> Delvien:  another question if i like to convert movies to this screen size any default player that does that ?
[00:36] <Delvien> Slart memimomo well theres the answer, thanks slart
[00:36] <Slart> memimomo: support ended in october.. I think there is an old repository archived somewhere..
[00:36] <memimomo> Delvien: so what do I do? change the sources.list and upgrade?
[00:37] <Slart> memimomo: I've seen it mentioned before.. but I don't remember the url
[00:37] <memimomo> hmmm
[00:37] <Delvien> matthias__: you have to remember, the zen is a less popular player, therefore not alot of people are working on 3rd party apps/drivers to make it work. Ipod is the most popular and most used mp3 player
[00:37] <Delvien> memimomo: sec, ill get you the command.
[00:38] <memimomo> Delvien: I think I am going to have to do this another day. running out of time. I can just google it
[00:38] <memimomo> thanks for your help
[00:38] <matthias__> Delvien:  okey, thanks i will get back to you to tell me about this full speed thing on the USBs you told me in a while if you still are there just let me install this perogram from synoptics ...
[00:38] <Delvien> memimomo: in a terminal "gksu update-manager -d" on the top it should have "upgrade distro" or something, I do mine by terminal
[00:38] <memimomo> ok, thanks a lot
[00:39] <Delvien> matthias__:  in the bios, there is an option for "high speed usb" just check it out, not sure if that could or could not be it.
[00:39] <koshar3> how could i log events from a live session? could i mount a usb drive and pipe the dmesg outputs to a file on that? because the standard /var/ will be in dynamic ram and wont be able to be accessed on subsequent boots??
[00:40] <matthias__> Delvien:  ok
[00:41] <ruhaan_jslip> merry christmas all
[00:41] <ruhaan_jslip> i have a qestion
[00:41] <hansel> I am Jewish...
[00:41] <ruhaan_jslip> *question
[00:41] <Delvien> hanel So?
[00:41] <ruhaan_jslip> is there a way to cap HDD usage for a users home folder?
[00:41] <Slart> memimomo: ah.. found it.. it's called  old-releases.ubuntu.com
[00:42] <hansel> !quota | ruhaan_jslip
[00:42] <Tory> Happy holidays Hansel :)
[00:42] <hansel> I was joking... :P  I dont celebrate Hannukah... or anything for that matter.
[00:42] <spottedzebra> Delvien: yes the was plugged in when i excuted that command
[00:43] <spottedzebra> Delvien: yes the hdd was plugged in when i excuted that command
[00:43] <Delvien> spottedzebra: Is there activity on the HDD?
[00:43] <ruhaan_jslip> so is there a way or not?
[00:43] <zamba> is it possible to view the NAT table on a NAT-gateway?
[00:43] <hansel> zamba - is it running Linux?
[00:43] <spottedzebra> Delvien: do you mean is it running/spinning?... yes
[00:43] <zamba> hansel: yup
[00:43] <Delvien> ruhaan_jslip: could create a seperate partition and have that be your /home folder
[00:44] <hansel> iptables -t nat -L
[00:44] <Delvien> spottedzebra: usually external usbs have an activity light
[00:44] <ruhaan_jslip> Delvien: that wud be difficult to do with 4 user accounts
[00:44] <zamba> hansel: no, i mean the NAT table as the dynamic entries of NAT-ed connections
[00:44] <spottedzebra> Delvien: i moved it to look at it and it mounted all on its own...
[00:45] <matthias__> i will get back, will restart computer
[00:45] <zamba> hansel: i'm trying to debug ssh connection problems..
[00:45] <Aframester> is it possible to run OS X on a virtual setup?
[00:45] <matthias__> Delvien:  thanks will restart computer and see if it get mounted ...
[00:45] <hansel> zamba - I think you need to get http://freshmeat.net/projects/iptstate/
[00:45] <Delvien> matthias__: k
[00:45] <zamba> hansel: if i establish connections directly from my laptop to a remote end, the connection gets terminated whenever i send lots of data to the end.. but if i first ssh to the gateway and from there establish the connection to the remote end, it works just fine
[00:45] <Delvien> spottedzebra: might wanna check the cables
[00:46] <Delvien> spottedzebra:  could be faulty connection or loose :)
[00:46] <spottedzebra> Delvien: whats up with that, it does have a pretty crappy cable
[00:46] <Delvien> spottedzebra: I'm guessing thats the culprit
[00:46] <zamba> hansel: oh! looks interesting
[00:47] <Aframester> is that a no on the OS X solution?
[00:47] <Delvien> ruhaan_jslip: I dont think what you are wanting exists atm, there are ways to do it, but it's difficult ..
[00:47] <Delvien> ruhaan_jslip: this is what i found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=889765
[00:47] <irgumborg> hi
[00:48] <irgumborg> is there an easy way to add own programs to the ubuntu (live) cd?
[00:48] <Org-Mode> !remaster
[00:48] <spottedzebra> Delvien: ok thanks ill have to invest in a new one
[00:48] <irgumborg> thx
[00:48] <Delvien> spottedzebra: np
[00:49] <Jonty_> why can't I install katapult? what has it been replaced with?
[00:49] <zamba> i have another problem.. i'm running flashhybrid on a router where i run the os from flash memory.. when trying to remount / in ro mode, i get the following error:
[00:49] <zamba> mount: / is busy
[00:49] <Delvien> Jonty_ might want to ask the guys in #kubuntu, if that is a KDE app
[00:49] <zamba> so some process is keeping / busy
[00:49] <Jonty_> Delvien: ok
[00:49] <zamba> how can i figure out which?
[00:49] <Delvien> zamba why are you trying to mount / as RO? thats the dir that you are running your OS in
[00:50] <hansel> zamba - you cant unmount then remount your root filesystem...
[00:50] <hansel> you need to change the settings in /etc/fstab then reboot if you really want it ro for whatever reason
[00:51] <Org-Mode> zamba: think of / as C:\windows
[00:51] <Delvien> only better
[00:51] <Delvien> :D
[00:51] <Org-Mode> yea! :)
[00:51] <zamba> Delvien: this is flashybrid
[00:51] <savvas> Org-Mode: you can set c:\windows files as read-only while it's mounted :P
[00:51] <zamba> i guess that's for hansel and Org-Mode as well
[00:52] <IndyGunFreak> any good movies that just came out on DVD?
[00:52] <bazhang> ot?
[00:52] <hansel> IndyGunFreak: this isn't really a channel for offtopic discussion...
[00:52] <savvas> zamba: I think you're trying to use the chroot command?
[00:52] <mib_45uzc2> I just leased an ubuntu 8.10 server, installed ubuntu-desktop on it, now it will not boot up properly and I can't access it, the datacenter guys sent me this "Your server freezes while loading the Ubuntu Desktop (Xfree86). We booted in single mode to start networking but it will not start. Please send instruction on how to stop XFree from loading."
[00:52] <Org-Mode> savvas: maybe so, but im trying to tell him / is important
[00:52] <Delvien> zamba "flashybrid is a Debian package that automates use of a flash disk as the root filesystem." You still dont want / as ro. You wont be able to do much, and could run into huge errors"
[00:52] <IndyGunFreak> hansel: oh crap man, sorry,,, i thought i was in club-ubuntu
[00:52] <ksakjas> does the livecd have gparted on it?
[00:52] <mgolisch> i think it does
[00:53] <mgolisch> if not install it
[00:53] <IndyGunFreak> i've been doing that w/ more frequency more lately,
[00:53] <zamba> Delvien: 'mountro' is a command for mounting / in ro mode.. it then bind mounts parts of the ramfs over /
[00:53] <mgolisch> provided you have internet
[00:53] <hansel> mib_45uzc2: have them remove that package.. :)
[00:53] <ksakjas> mgolisch: i dont on that machine, and i have blank cd lift
[00:53] <Delvien> mib_45uzc2: My first question, why install non-server ubuntu to a server?
[00:53] <hansel> mib_45uzc2: running a GUI on a server is NOT a good idea btw... eats up all sorts of resources unnecessarily.
[00:54] <zamba> Delvien: believe me, it works
[00:54] <Delvien> hansel mib_45uzc2  I agree with hansel, thats where i was going
[00:54] <zamba> Delvien: # mount
[00:54] <zamba> /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (ro,errors=remount-ro)
[00:54] <Delvien> zamba, well ok :P
[00:54] <zamba> /ram/tmp on /tmp type none (rw,bind)
[00:54] <zamba> /ram/etc on /etc type none (rw,bind)
[00:54] <irgumborg> can i do this whole live cd remastering using a live cd? :)
[00:54] <irgumborg> i mean without installing ubuntu first
[00:54] <mib_45uzc2> thanks
[00:55] <zamba> and then every vital part of the filesystem is mounted with --bind from ramfs
[00:55] <Andre_Gondim> how may i send a message to pc in the same network, like a pop-up?
[00:55] <Delvien> irgumborg: I don't believe you can
[00:55] <zamba> tmpfs, i mean
[00:55] <zamba> so my question is still: how do i see which process is blocking /?
[00:55] <spottedzebra> Delvien: switched out the cables and still nothing
[00:55] <zamba> 'lsof'?
[00:55] <savvas> irgumborg: you'll need a second cd drive probably to burn it, because the one with the live cd will be locked :)
[00:55] <hansel> Andre_Gondim: you will need to install software to do that... or you can SSH to the box and you can create popups to :0 (their desktop) using some sort of create window command...
[00:55] <Flannel> irgumborg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[00:55] <irgumborg> savvas: i could save the iso to the hard drive
[00:55] <Delvien> spottedzebra: I think your usb HDD is faulty, if it mount with you touching it, and not other times.
[00:55] <savvas> irgumborg: try it ;)
[00:56] <irgumborg> yeah, i won't, probably
[00:56] <precision_> I need help mounting my cdrom...when I go to "Places", then "computer", then double click on the "cd-rw/dvd-rom" icon, I get the error message "There is probably no media in the drive", but there *is* a cdrom in there!
[00:56] <savvas> why not? i think you can make one
[00:56] <hansel> Andre_Gondim: but if you want to use net send messages like in Windows you will need to install a piece of software to do that...
[00:56] <Delvien> spottedzebra: in other words, I dont think its software related
[00:56] <irgumborg> i take it right that ubuntu can be installed onto a USB stick?
[00:56] <spottedzebra> Delvien: is it time to look at the warranty and see if i can get a new one then?
[00:56] <savvas> irgumborg: you might have better results if you boot from a USB with it, and remaster it as you go
[00:57] <Andre_Gondim> hansel, what is the program?
[00:57] <Delvien> spottedzebra: Probably.
[00:57] <savvas> irgumborg: I don't know if it will work though heh
[00:57] <spottedzebra> sh*t
[00:57] <precision_> I've looked everywhere online to solve this cdrom problem, but I am becoming more infuriated by the day!
[00:57] <precision_> can you please help?
[00:57] <johnzorn> what could be the reason   I cant resolve hostnames?
[00:57] <irgumborg> if i could install it onto a usb stick that would be fine for me
[00:57] <irgumborg> than i wouldn't need a live cd or anything
[00:57] <hansel> Andre_Gondim:  man xmessage if you just want to create popups from an SSH session...
[00:57] <Delvien> precision_: have you tried another cdrom drive?
[00:57] <ch33zer> Could I get some help with installing? I am trying to put 8.10 (32 bit) on an old laptop. I can't get into the graphical environment (it just hangs) so I went into safe graphics mode. Now I am at a command prompt and don't know what to type to get the install started. Any ideas?
[00:58] <hansel> Andre_Gondim: not sure which application you could install that would give you similar net send functionality... lemme google.  I'm sure one exists.
[00:58] <Delvien> ch33zer:  how old is the laptop?
[00:58] <precision_> Delvien: thanks for the response...how do I try another cdrom drive if I don't have one?
[00:58] <Delvien> precision_: you cant.
[00:58] <precision_> Delvien: of course!
[00:59] <Elling_> newbie question: im using terminal to execute some commands that the driver install readme tells me to, and some of them specifies that i should execute them "as root". im logged in as the user i created when installing ubuntu. is there something i need to do to give myself root access? the commands wont work if i execute them
[00:59] <Delvien> precision_: Well how could I tell if you didnt have another cdrom drive :p
[00:59] <precision_> Delvien: when I put a audio cd in the cdrom it works fine, just data cdrom's wont mount.  Have you heard of this problem before
[00:59] <Delvien> precision_: Yeah, is this a burned data cdrom?
[01:00] <ch33zer> Delvien: like 5 years so kind of old. Any clue how to get the install started from command line
[01:00] <ch33zer> ?
[01:00] <Vladark> Elling: preceed your commands with sudo
[01:00] <Elling_> thanks
[01:00] <Vladark> np
[01:00] <precision_> Delvien: no I didn't burn the cdrom, none of the cdroms work
[01:00] <johan_j> fins det någon svensk här som kan hjälpa mig?
[01:00] <Delvien> ch33zer: you can install from the cd using "minimal installation" in the options when you boot to the cd option menu. and then once installed "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[01:01] <precision_> Delvien: I've tried a few different ones
[01:01] <Delvien> precision_: hmm, what version of ubuntu?
[01:01] <precision_> Delvien: 7.10
[01:01] <ch33zer> Delvien: Thanks
[01:02] <lasivian_> i'm trying to connect a windows share as a mount point, but I can;t figure out why it's failing
[01:02] <Delvien> precision_: one sec
[01:02] <precision_> Delvien: okay
[01:02] <lasivian_> i'm using these instructions: v
[01:02] <lasivian_> but it says the fstab line is bad
[01:02] <Delvien> precision_:  "dmesg | tail" in a terminal, and pastebin the results
[01:03] <johan_j> how do i login to a remote server and start a x session?
[01:03] <lasivian_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently <-- these instructions
[01:03] <precision_> Delvien: thank you very much for this help, I'll do that right now
[01:03] <Andre_Gondim> hansel, maybe i can use netsend, i will see
[01:03] <precision_> [ 3235.111857] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[01:03] <precision_> [ 3235.111861] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
[01:03] <precision_> [ 3235.111864] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[01:03] <precision_> [ 3235.111929]  sdb: unknown partition table
[01:03] <precision_> [ 3235.114153] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[01:03] <FloodBot1> precision_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:03] <precision_> [ 3235.114210] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[01:03] <Delvien> precision_: sorry when i said pastebin i mean
[01:03] <Delvien> !pastebin | precision_
[01:03] <Decepticon> how to check what type of hdd i have
[01:04] <redrebel> i'm having trouble compiling bitchx in ubuntu 8.10
[01:04] <redrebel> is there a way to install bitchx through aptitude
[01:04] <redrebel> ?
[01:04] <hansel> lasivian_:  you using samba?
[01:04] <precision_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/92993/
[01:04] <precision_> Delvien: http://paste.ubuntu.com/92993/
[01:04] <hansel> redrebel - you need to grab the .deb from a Debian packages site and just dpkg -i it... BitchX was removed from Ubuntu as of 7.10 I think.
[01:04] <precision_> Delvien: did that work?
[01:05] <lasivian_> hansel, smbfs is already the newest version. yet smb: and "samba" commands fail
[01:05] <hansel> !samba
[01:05] <Delvien> precision_: sdb: unknown partition table
[01:05] <hansel> guess thats the one you followed...
[01:05] <Delvien> precision_: that worries me
[01:05] <lasivian_> hansel, apt-get install smbfs or samba says I have the newest version
[01:05] <precision_> Delvien: what does that mean?
[01:06] <lasivian_> it just says the fstab line "is bad" it doesn't say what is wrong with it exactly
[01:06] <Delvien> precision_: have you installed updates lately?
[01:06] <precision_> Delvien: just the autoupdates
[01:07] <hansel> are you using tabs or spaces?
[01:07] <Delvien> !gutsy
[01:07] <hansel> lasivian_: if you use spaces it might cause it to error out.  I think most configs need tab.
[01:07] <hansel> thats how the parser delimits them... (afaik)
[01:07] <qwi> Is there a nice command available to display physical ram configuration? ie: dimm slots with size of installed module.  I don't see how to discover it with free(1), /proc/meminfo, /proc/vmstat ....
[01:07] <Delvien> precision_: bug reports say the issue was resolved in 8.04
[01:07] <Delvien> precision_:  after updates were resolved
[01:07] <lasivian_> hansel, //server/e$ /mnt/raid cifs, iocharset=utf8, credentials=/home/*username*/.smbcredentials, uid=1000 0 0
[01:08] <precision_> Delvien: thank you, does this mean an update to 8.04 might fix this?
[01:08] <Delvien> precision_: correct, more than likely.
[01:08] <precision_> Delvien: thanks for the help.  Is there some way I can reward you?
[01:08] <lasivian_> hansel, tab or space that line still fails
[01:08] <Delvien> precision_: This is what community is for.
[01:09] <hansel> you might need a comma after the uid=1000
[01:09] <precision_> Delvien: well I guess I'll have to contribute and help someone else out later.  Thanks again.  bye.
[01:09] <Delvien> precision_: that's the spirit. Good luck.
[01:09] <lasivian_> hansel, still bad
[01:09] <wabob> im from china, good morning here.
[01:10] <Decepticon> how to see what type of hdd i have attached, sata or pata or?
[01:10] <Decepticon> wabob ni shi zhonggou ren, ma
[01:10] <hansel> dunno... I havent used Windows at home in 6 yrs... only use it at work otherwise I'd try to setup a quick share and see if I could replicate the problem.  :(
[01:10] <savvas> Decepticon: ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/
[01:10] <lasivian_> hansel, this is the line i'm copying the format from in the help file: //apollo/install_files /path/to/mnt smbfs iocharset=utf8,credentials=/path/to/.smbcredentials,uid=1000 0 0
[01:11] <savvas> Decepticon: ata = pata, scsi = sata
[01:11] <savvas> Decepticon: weird though, don't you know how you connect your hard drives?
[01:11] <Decepticon> its a remote machine
[01:11] <savvas> point taken :)
[01:12] <lasivian_> hansel, [mntent]: line 10 in /etc/fstab is bad
[01:12] <lasivian_> and that's all it kicks back
[01:12] <hansel> dunno... maybe there is a #samba you could ask in?
[01:12] <Decepticon> savvas all im seeing is ls -l /dev/sda
[01:13] <Decepticon> savvas brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 1 2008-07-07 21:48 /dev/sda1
[01:13] <matthias_> Delvien:  it works but i need the genomad2 program in order to work with the zen player ..., a but creepy, because i can not do unmount volume or eject usb device ...
[01:13] <Decepticon> savvas what does that mean
[01:13] <savvas> Decepticon: is that ubuntu?
[01:13] <Decepticon> yes
[01:14] <savvas> server?
[01:14] <savvas> maybe they're different in this matter.. urm..
[01:14] <lasivian_> anyone else have any ideas?
[01:14] <matthias_> Delvien:  i checked my BIOS and i do not have any thing about spped setting in the bios ...
[01:14] <Delvien> matthias_: do you have any media player running atm ? like gnomad ? a music player perhaps ?
[01:15] <savvas> Decepticon: sudo lshw -C disk
[01:15] <Kitkat> Guys - any ideas how I can color the my shell's prompt different? You know the part that says "username@my_host:" .. I want that to be a different color
[01:15] <Decepticon> savvas all that says is 'PCI (sysfs)'
[01:15] <matthias_> Delvien: i use VLC mediaplayer to play but what do you mean with atm ...
[01:15] <Delvien> at the moment
[01:16] <hansel> Kitkat: your .bashrc file...
[01:16] <Decepticon> atm = at the moment
[01:16] <savvas> Decepticon: wait for a while, until it shows up the command prompt
[01:16] <matthias_> Delvien:  VLC
[01:16] <savvas> Decepticon: post the output at http://pastebin.ca
[01:16] <Kitkat> hansel: what do I change in my .bashrc file?
[01:16] <hansel> Kitkat: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=b6864b3991dfbdebdad091ba0b6ca73a&t=204382
[01:17] <Decepticon> savvas the command goes to completeion with the only thing showing up is 'PCI (sysfs)'
[01:17] <Delvien> VLC you dont have gnomad2 running?
[01:17] <dbu> where do apps installed with apt-get install get installed to?
[01:17] <lasivian_> fstab line is "bad" while trying to do a windows mount, anyone?
[01:17] <dbu> is that app specific, and how do i find out?
[01:17] <savvas> Decepticon: are you allowed to see hardware information?
[01:17] <Decepticon> savvas yes
[01:17] <matthias_> Delvien:  when i transfer the files yes, just remeber i sav this program as a mean to transfer file to the ZEN player and it works ...
[01:18] <Eurysilas> OK, so I noticed that now Ogg Vorbis uses OGA as it's extension. Question: can I just rename the OGA files to OGG? Audacity grumbles about the OGA files. Basically, are OGG and OGA interchangeable?
[01:18] <savvas> Decepticon: is it a dedicated server?
[01:18] <Decepticon> savvas yes
[01:18] <geltonas> i am newbie on ubuntu and learning about shell, i got question, how can i cp file witch name has two words separated by spaces?thx
[01:18] <matthias_> Delvien:  hope you understand .....
[01:18] <veloc1ty> geltonas, set it into brackets
[01:18] <Eurysilas> geltonas, Yes. Use quotes.
[01:18] <geltonas> thx
[01:18] <veloc1ty> or simply type the first name, hit tab
[01:18] <Marius_> hello there
[01:18] <Delvien> matthias_: when it says that u cant umount the drive, that usually means something is using the drive
[01:18] <geltonas> thx alot
[01:19] <Delvien> matthias_: my thought is that something is accessing the drive
[01:19] <matthias_> geltonas:  usually by using the tab at the shell it should fill in the name with / i think, try it out tyoe the 1:st 2 letters in the file and hit the tab key ...
[01:19] <savvas> Decepticon: sudo lshw -C disk > /tmp/testor; cat /tmp/testor
[01:20] <savvas> Decepticon: are you controlling it through ssh?
[01:20] <Decepticon> savvas yes i am via ssh
[01:20] <savvas> weiiird, it should work
[01:20] <Marius_> how can i turn ubuntu boot logo off? i want to see linux boot-up process in text
[01:21] <savvas> Marius_: edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[01:21] <Marius_> thx
[01:21] <savvas> Marius_: remove the word "splash" :)
[01:21] <mgolisch> remove splash and quiet
[01:21] <carandraug> Marius_: open /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove the option splash in the kernel line
[01:21] <mgolisch> i think
[01:21] <matthias_> Delvien:  no i am missign that the prgoram gnomad2 does not give me any option to eject unit or unmount volume, i simply disconnect the player but i have a hard time to just discoinnect the usb cable but there is no choice todo it in another way either, just an comment okey ...
[01:21]  * lasivian_ is trying to do this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and she is getting this: [mntent]: line 10 in /etc/fstab is bad any ideas why?
[01:22] <Marius_> oh, thanks, i see :)
[01:22] <Flannel> lasivian_: Pastebin your /etc/fstab
[01:22] <hansel> dbu: do you mean like dpkg -L packagename ????
[01:22] <savvas> Decepticon: does it show anything with this command? is there a file /tmp/testor ?
[01:22] <Blaze_Boy> i'v downloaded kde4-core but it didn't work i then installed kde4 package but it didn't work i have the message dbus cannot load or something ? what should i do?
[01:22] <mgolisch> matthias_: it doenst actualy mount the players filesystem but uses some prorietary protcol to exchange files with it
[01:22] <mgolisch> just unplug the cable if the transfer is finished
[01:23] <mgolisch> thats what i did too when i had that nomad player
[01:23] <Decepticon> savvas the command you gave me does the same thing... shows 'PCI (sysfs)' ... and /tmp/testor exists and it is empty
[01:23] <matthias_> mgolisch: so no worry to damage the files or something like it can on SD cards that i mount and unmount ???
[01:23] <dbu> hansel: I mean as in I want to find out the folder that the compiled files are moved to when i run the command, so that i can use them for compiling from source to the correct directory.
[01:23] <veloc1ty> Blaze_Boy, what are you trying to do?
[01:23] <savvas> Decepticon: what does this command return: sudo lshw -short
[01:23] <Marius_> so what does "quiet" in /boot/grub/menu.lst mean?
[01:23] <hansel> dbu - oh... well once you run ./configure it will update the makefile and you can look in there...
[01:23] <mgolisch> matthias_: shouldnt be, atlast i never managed to hoss it that way
[01:23] <lasivian_> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/92997/
[01:23] <Blaze_Boy> ﻿veloc1ty: installing kde4 on ubuntu hardy
[01:23] <carmelo> hi
[01:24] <matthias_> thaks
[01:24] <mgolisch> Marius_: it disables display of the kernel messages
[01:24] <matthias_> thanks a lot
[01:24] <Decepticon> savvas returns: http://s.tazeat.com:1234/~bizinichi/paste/1230254721
[01:24] <mgolisch> Marius_: so it will be quit untill the initrd kicks off
[01:24] <veloc1ty> have you tried to install the kubuntu-desktop package?
[01:24] <mgolisch> qiuet
[01:24] <veloc1ty> that should work out
[01:24] <matthias_> Delvien:  thanks to you too ...
[01:24] <Blaze_Boy> ﻿veloc1ty: i'll try
[01:24] <carmelo> shoul i ask something someone?... it's my firs time
[01:24] <Delvien> matthias_: np
[01:24] <carmelo> first*
[01:25] <hansel> !ask | carmelo
[01:25] <savvas> Decepticon: what does this say: echo $USER
[01:25] <Decepticon> savvas bizinichi
[01:25] <Decepticon> savvas thats who i am on the machine
[01:25] <savvas> Decepticon: try: sudo -s
[01:25] <Decepticon> savvas ok
[01:25] <savvas> Decepticon: and then: lshw -short
[01:25] <Flannel> lasivian_: You have type and options merged.  It's not type,option1,option2 but type option1,option2
[01:26] <carmelo> ok tkz, i have a problem with pidgin, it freeze when i try to go to account->menagement
[01:26] <Decepticon> savvas the output of lshw -short as root is http://s.tazeat.com:1234/~bizinichi/paste/1230254842
[01:26] <Guest69097> HELLO?
[01:26] <Guest69097> does anyone love music?
[01:26] <savvas> Guest69097: HELLO!
[01:26] <spottedzebra> how do you defrag an external hdd
[01:27] <savvas> Guest69097: #ubuntu-offtopic if you don't have a problem/question :)
[01:27] <spottedzebra> what's the command or what do you click on
[01:27] <unop_> spottedzebra, on linux, you generally have no need to defrag
[01:27] <savvas> Decepticon: while still in root, do: lshw -C storage
[01:27] <Decepticon> savvas: http://s.tazeat.com:1234/~bizinichi/paste/1230254943
[01:28] <Decepticon> SATA
[01:28] <carmelo> i tried to re-instaal it but doesn't work
[01:28] <spottedzebra> unop: even an external hard drive
[01:29] <Org-Mode> spottedzebra: not if its ext3
[01:29] <unop_> spottedzebra, an external harddrive is no different to an internal one as far as the kernel is concerned
[01:30] <savvas> Decepticon: ls -l /dev/hd* | ls -l /dev/sd*
[01:30] <unop_> savvas, piping ls to ls ??
[01:30] <Decepticon> hmm??
[01:30] <savvas> oops
[01:30] <savvas> Decepticon: ls -l /dev/hd*; ls -l /dev/sd*
[01:31] <spottedzebra> Org-Mode: how do you know if its ext3 or not
[01:31] <Decepticon> savvas http://s.tazeat.com:1234/~bizinichi/paste/1230255151
[01:31] <Org-Mode> good point :)
[01:31] <unop_> ls -l /dev/[sh]d*
[01:32] <Decepticon> unop_ http://s.tazeat.com:1234/~bizinichi/paste/1230255190
[01:32] <unop_> Decepticon, i think you should redirect that to savvas - i haven't been following the conversation very much
[01:32] <Decepticon> hm ok
[01:33] <david_> is there a package for the regular xchat instead of xchat-gnome?
[01:33] <carandraug> david_: yes
[01:33] <unop_> !info xchat
[01:33] <Flannel> david_: There is.  It's in universe, but if you're using a recent version of Ubuntu, universe is enabled by default
[01:33] <krishmish> can some one help me with configuring for YUGMA
[01:34] <david_> i swear i didnt see it, ill check again thanks
[01:34] <spottedzebra> unop: was "ls -l /dev/[sh]d*" for me?
[01:35] <carmelo> someone has an idea about my problem?
[01:35] <david_> ok i guess im blind. sorry
[01:35] <Flannel> david_: No worries.
[01:35] <savvas> Decepticon: probably sata, but I'm not 100% sure, neither am I sure why lshw -C disk doesn't print any information about it!
[01:35] <carandraug> spottedzebra: "sudo fdisk -l" at least gives you a hint
[01:36] <Decepticon> savvas i suppose
[01:36] <jeff_> how do i update my java?
[01:37] <savvas> Decepticon: lshw -v
[01:37] <unop_> spottedzebra, no, that was intended for Decepticon (I think).
[01:37] <eternaljoy> how can I install Skype on Ubuntu 8.04 pls?
[01:37] <eternaljoy> !skype
[01:37] <krishmish> can someone help me with YUGMA??A
[01:37] <krishmish> !yugma
[01:37] <jeff_> how do i check for updates for JAVA?
[01:38] <jeff_> !java
[01:38] <jolo_> I have a question about TCL. I installed it using Synaptic, latest possible version, 8.3.5-13. I'm trying to install Eggdrop1.6.7, and when I ./configure, it says that my version of TCL is much too old. How do I correct this?
[01:38] <jeff_> !multiverse repository
[01:38] <gorkhaan> !openvpn
[01:38] <jeff_> hello?
[01:38] <jeff_> !Jeff
[01:38] <jeff_> !anything
[01:39] <jeff_> !nothing
[01:39] <gorkhaan> jeff: apt-get update && dist-upgrade
[01:39] <jeff_> okay thats for java?
[01:39] <savvas> Decepticon: lshw -version
[01:39] <gorkhaan> That's for everything
[01:39] <spottedzebra> carandraug: i looked at that but i can't distinguish if it is ext3 or not, here is  pastebin of the command output http://paste.ubuntu.com/93002/
[01:39] <unop_> jeff_,  sudo aptitude update;  apt-show-versions -u | grep -i java
[01:39] <gorkhaan> if you have already installed java
[01:39] <Decepticon> B.02.12.01
[01:39] <Decepticon> savvas B.02.12.01
[01:40] <savvas> Decepticon: you're using ubuntu hardy server?
[01:40] <gorkhaan> if not, then:   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras           this package contains many many gr8 things :)
[01:40] <Diiphantom> is there a command to have ubuntu detect external harddrives?
[01:40] <Decepticon> savvas, i dont think so: Linux ks361773.kimsufi.com 2.6.24.5-grsec-xxxx-grs-ipv4-32 #3 SMP Wed May 28 09:09:25 CEST 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:40] <Decepticon> savvas its based on ubuntu afaik
[01:40] <carandraug> spottedzebra: which partition are you trying to guess is ext3?
[01:41] <spottedzebra> carandraug: its not a partition its the external hd
[01:41] <GodfatherofEire> Ok, kind of a big problem here, whenever I try to run a program that requires root access, ubuntu shuts down on me, need help ASAP
[01:41] <savvas> Decepticon: cat /etc/issue
[01:41] <carandraug> spottedzebra: sdb then. It's not ext3
[01:41] <Decepticon> savvas http://s.tazeat.com:1234/~bizinichi/paste/1230255770
[01:41] <spottedzebra> Diiphantom: you can check to see it they are mounted with "sudo fdisk -l"
[01:42] <jeff_> jeff@jeff-desktop:~$ apt-show-versions -u | grep -i java
[01:42] <jeff_> openoffice.org-java-common/gutsy upgradeable from 1:2.3.0-1ubuntu5.3 to 1:2.3.0-1ubuntu5.5
[01:42] <carandraug> spottedzebra: sdb1 (the only partition in the external HHD) is fat32 so it seems to me
[01:42] <jeff_> libhsqldb-java/gutsy upgradeable from 1.8.0.8-1ubuntu1 to 1.8.0.8-1ubuntu1.1
[01:42] <jeff_> how do i upgrade it?
[01:42] <spottedzebra> carandraug: ok so can i defrag that or not in ubuntu, if so how?
[01:42] <savvas> Decepticon: well.. I don't know, I would try to update the lshw application, but never mind, let's not mess it up. Can't you ask the support department? :)
[01:43] <GodfatherofEire1> Ok, kind of a big problem here, whenever I try to run a program that requires root access, ubuntu shuts down on me, need help ASAP
[01:43] <carandraug> spottedzebra: I don't know if gparted does that. I never had to do such thing.
[01:43] <Garnol> What is the best mp3 player for Linux?
[01:43] <Decepticon> savvas im not the end user, im being retailed to
[01:43] <GodfatherofEire1> Well, even sudo commands screw up and shut down
[01:43] <Decepticon> savvas as such i dont think i have support from them
[01:43] <unop_> jeff_, doesn't look like you have an update for java - from that output there
[01:43] <carandraug> !best | Garnol
[01:43] <savvas> Decepticon: i think there is a way to read information about devices( cat /proc/bus/pci/devices ) but I don't know how to read that unfortunately
[01:44] <spottedzebra> carandraug: well i can't figure out why my ext hd takes so long/ wont mount in ubuntu or windows so i am going to try to defrag it
[01:44] <Decepticon> hm
[01:44] <jeff_> !best | Java
[01:44] <spottedzebra> carandraug: hoping that will help
[01:44] <jeff_> unop_
[01:44] <Khisanth> jolo_: you can get 8.5 as far back as gutsy
[01:44] <spottedzebra> carandraug: can you explain what gparted is?
[01:44] <Garnol> carandraug: ok what are the 5 most popular mp3 players for Linux?
[01:45] <gorkhaan> man gparted2
[01:45] <jeff_> !Gutsy Gibbon
[01:45] <jeff_> !Ubuntu
[01:45] <Delvien> jeff_ just gutsy
[01:45] <GodfatherofEire1> I SERIOUSLY need help here, because I cant really operate on my system if I dont have access to any sudo commands or anything similar, now I REALLY need some help
[01:45] <Chris_Were> where is the device manager in 8.10?
[01:45] <spottedzebra> jeff: !gusty
[01:45] <jeff_> !gutsy
[01:45] <Diiphantom> gparted is a particion  program, to increase, erase and mange hard drives
[01:46] <jeff_> !ibek
[01:46] <GodfatherofEire1> I dont know if I borked something, or what, but I need help like, now
[01:46] <jeff_> !myself
[01:46] <carandraug> spottedzebra: sure. But I've checked and it seems it doesn't defrag. It's a GUI for create, delete and resize partitions of dyferent filesystems
[01:46] <jeff_> lol
[01:46] <spottedzebra> GodfatherofEire: chill man
[01:46] <dbu> !making love
[01:46] <jeff_> lol
[01:47] <jeff_> !your mom
[01:47] <spottedzebra> carandraug: oh yea i have used that before, just didn't recongize the name
[01:47] <carandraug> Garnol: I'd say Audacious, Amarok, Banshee, Sonata and Esperanza
[01:47] <neosisani> does ubuntu come preinstalled with ncurses? gcc -o bla *.c -lcurses says there is no curses.h
[01:47] <jeff_> good
[01:47] <gorkhaan> xmms
[01:47] <Chris_Were> how do i get to the device manager in 8.10 intrepid?
[01:47] <neosisani> mp3blaster?
[01:47] <LiverpoolFC> are there any good channel protect script for Xchat?
[01:47] <GodfatherofEire1> spottedzebra, sorry, just get kinda worried when my security check messed up a bit last night, so I dont know what I did wrong just tonight or what, but I need help
[01:47] <gorkhaan> chris_were: what do u need from there?
[01:47] <jeff_> !scripts
[01:47] <jeff_> !ubottu
[01:47] <Chris_Were> to see if my wireless usb adaptor is picked up
[01:48] <gorkhaan> lsusb
[01:48] <neosisani> LiverpoolFC, maybe #xchat would be better suited
[01:48] <carandraug> Garnol: they're all different. What kind of player are you looking for?
[01:48] <Chris_Were> lsusb?
[01:48] <LiverpoolFC> tnx jeff_  :-)
[01:48] <spottedzebra> GodfatherofEire: nothing wrong with being freaked out, its just not going to help you get help
[01:49] <gorkhaan> yeah, type it to a terminal:  lsusb       u should se if ubuntu "see" it
[01:49] <jeff_> ?
[01:49] <axisys> why is /tmp not tmpfs with default installation? what tool can I use to create a tmpfs /tmp w/o rebooting ?
[01:49] <Chris_Were> thanx
[01:49] <ortsvorsteher> !cookie
[01:49] <Chris_Were> how good is ndiswrapper these days?
[01:49] <savvas> Decepticon: still here?
[01:49] <Decepticon> yes
[01:49] <jeff_> !hero cookie
[01:49] <jeff_> sure sure
[01:49] <Garnol> carandraug: Do you know mediamonkey? It should more be like a music library. Mostly like Amarok but not that clumsy xD
[01:49] <mib_45uzc2> can I run a windows virtual machine on a server without a gui?
[01:49] <Decepticon> what is a hero cookie
[01:49] <gorkhaan> Donno really. in 8.10 driver support for Wifi is far better
[01:50] <mikec> is it still possible to _not_ use scsi emulation?
[01:50] <LiverpoolFC> thanks neosisani  ..
[01:50] <savvas> Decepticon: sudo apt-get install smartctl; smartctl -i /dev/sda
[01:50] <carandraug> Garnol: Have you tried MPD with Sonata?
[01:50] <foznot> i cannot tab complete in a terminal window, anyone know why...
[01:50] <Chris_Were> i have a belkin 802.11g 54Mbps, you wouldn't be able to give me any help would you? i been going around in circles today
[01:50] <Kitkat> ﻿guys, I know its possible to direct the output to a file using the > operator. But how can I direct output to my "clipboard" (ie, copy buffer)... for example, if I do "echo abcd" then abcd has been copied to my bufer (as if I selected the text abcd, right click, and hit "Copy")
[01:50] <GodfatherofEire1> spottedzebra, yeah, i know, I've just never had this problem before, and I just had to get rid of the sashroot account because I found it to be a bit of a security concern
[01:50] <gorkhaan> hold on a sec
[01:51] <mikec> Chris_Were: did you try ndiswrapper?
[01:51] <savvas> Decepticon: or break it in two commands: 1) sudo apt-get install smartctl 2) sudo smartctl -i /dev/sda
[01:51] <Garnol> carandraug: i didnt hear anything of both, ill go google it
[01:51] <Chris_Were> im trying to avoid using it, as i have had no use before, but i think im going to have to try it
[01:51] <mikec> it works fine.
[01:51] <krishmish> how can i share my ubuntu desktop with another ubuntu desktop thru the internet?
[01:52] <mikec> what chipset is in that belkin adapter anyway?
[01:52] <sloopy> mib_45uzc2, yes, IIRC you need the virtual x server tho
[01:52] <Chris_Were> its a usb adapter
[01:52] <krishmish> how can i share my ubuntu desktop with another ubuntu desktop thru the internet?
[01:52] <ortsvorsteher> !vnc
[01:52] <GodfatherofEire1> So does anybody have any idea what could cause that sort of problem
[01:52] <mikec> Chris_Were: yeah , well the windows .inf driver for it will probably tell you what chip it is
[01:52] <carandraug> Garnol: MPD is the server. Sonate is the client. http://sonata.berlios.de/
[01:52] <krishmish> how can i install vnc in ubuntu?
[01:53] <vader> hello, aptitude crashed on me and now its locked, can someone help please?
[01:53] <Boohbah> hello, i installed and then removed gtk-engines-qt and now my desktop is not using the theme i want. i can change it in system > preferences > appearance, but any new gtk apps i open don't use that theme. help?
[01:53] <gorkhaan> Chris:     http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=830561   maybe
[01:53] <mikec> krishmish: its installed as "terminal server client"
[01:53] <Garnol> carandraug: oh ok, this will speed up my search xD
[01:53] <mikec> already
[01:53] <Chris_Were> well im going to get stuck in then, thanks for the help
[01:53] <krishmish> ok
[01:53] <TestingTheTest> i can't load my boot menu when i try to load grub. i keep getting grub error, 16, 17, or 18. any ideas ?
[01:53] <krishmish> thanx mikec
[01:54] <mikec> no
[01:54] <mikec> np
[01:54] <spottedzebra> anyone in here know how to defrag an external hd in ubuntu
[01:54] <Decepticon> savvas E: Couldn't find package smartctl
[01:54] <foznot> i have tried 3 different keyboards and none of them will tab complete words in a terminal, any suggestions?
[01:54] <savvas> Decepticon: my bad: sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[01:54] <sikun> i was having problems with overheating on my laptop i just got... i noticed in the bios the shared graphics mem was only set to 8mb.. i upped it to 32mb.. now the laptop doesn't overheat.. how can the amount of gfx memory cause the laptop to overheat?
[01:54] <gorkhaan> TesthingTheTest:    MBR should be on IDE0 MASTER ( where ubuntu can boot from )
[01:54] <Khisanth> foznot: which shell are you using?
[01:54] <meff> heya, which package do i need to install to be able to tweak kde4 settings? i am in gnome and just need to adjust the kde4 apps visual stuff
[01:55] <savvas> Decepticon: then: sudo smartctl -i /dev/sda
[01:55] <foznot> bash
[01:55] <Chris_Were> this guide that im using for ndiswrapper says that i should be able to find my pci id through a device manager in ubuntu which i can't find, any help?
[01:55] <GodfatherofEire1> spottedzebra, do you have any idea what could have caused this problem?
[01:55] <Decepticon> savvas http://s.tazeat.com:1234/~bizinichi/paste/1230256586
[01:55] <vader> i get an error from synaptic saying it cant get exclusive lock, help?
[01:55] <Decepticon> savvas that looks informative
[01:55] <NW2190> Does anyone know of any data recovery programs that work on lost linux partitions?
[01:55] <TestingTheTest> gorkhaan: what's that mean ? i have vista and ubuntu on dual-boot... but i get errors: 16, 17, or 18 when grub tries to load.
[01:56] <spottedzebra> GodfatherofEire: no man the problems you have are way over my head, i would call myself an average ubuntu user at best
[01:56] <Khisanth> vader: you have something else that is using the packages database, do you have the update manager opened?
[01:56] <Mike9022> How can I install the latest version of Pidgin?
[01:56] <savvas> Decepticon: http://www.google.com/search?q=ST3250410AS :) seagate barracuda sata 250gb 7200rpm, anything else? :P
[01:56] <spottedzebra> godfatherofEire: sorry man
[01:56] <Decepticon> savvas thanks a lot, that looks accurate and the info i was looking for
[01:57] <gorkhaan> TestingTheTest:   Do u have ATA or SATA HDD?
[01:57] <mikec> NW2190: foremost recovers lost files
[01:57] <vader> khisanth , no, ive logged out and back in and tried to kill aptitude and even removing the lock in /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:57] <TestingTheTest> gorkhaan: i'm guessing SATA. why ?
[01:57] <foznot> shell? Khisanth, what do you mean? for the keyboard?
[01:57] <savvas> Decepticon: no problem :) I found it by accident heh
[01:58] <NW2190> mikec, ya that's all i need to do really.  Thanks let me see if I can get that to work.
[01:58] <GodfatherofEire1> spottedzebra; no problem, lookin through the logs to see what happened
[01:58] <Khisanth> foznot: bash, csh, tcsh, zsh, ... but you already answered that
[01:58] <Tillotso1> a
[01:58] <Khisanth> foznot: I have only had the opposite problem get completion where I didn't want it :)
[01:58] <clauwn> Hey guys, i have a problem at editing my software sources, there is no entry for the tool called "software sources" in my menu. can anybody tell me the name of this tool so i can add it to the menu?
 Connect your HDD to SATA0 port. In BIOS turn AHCI mode to IDE, if you have something like this at there
[01:58] <carandraug> spottedzebra: have you tried searching ubuntu forums? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=982418&highlight=fat32+defrag
[01:59] <foznot> my up arrow key will not recall the last command either
[01:59] <mikec> NW2190: its not "complicated" to me, i use it a lot. but you have to use quite a few steps.
[02:00] <vader> foznot , check to see if you have the .bash_history file in your home folder
[02:00] <clauwn> can anybody tell me the name of the software sources tool???
[02:00] <GodfatherofEire1> spottedzebra, think I found the problem
[02:00] <TestingTheTest> gorkhaan: it's a sata II.
[02:00] <donavan> anyone know where dvbscan can be found at ... trying to follow the howtos on www.linuxtv.org but  I get to the dvbscan stuff and I am at a loss
[02:00] <JumboJellyfish> server irc.p2p-network.net
[02:00] <vader> khisanth , any idea on what could be locking it?
[02:00] <NW2190> mikec, ya the main problem for me is that the partition is lost (literally).  It just dissapeared.  So i can't type things like dd_rescue /dev/sda6 /dev/sda2 because i don't have a distinct partition to scan
 That's far okay. Connect your HDD to SATA0 port. In BIOS turn AHCI mode to IDE, if you have something like this at there
[02:01] <Khisanth> hmm nope, could be a stale lock ...
[02:01] <cappiz> someone that can explain me some reasons for why only get 100Mbit speed over a 1000Mbit line?
[02:01] <mikec> NW2190: http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1902/1
[02:01] <mikec> read this
[02:01] <mikec> recovers based on inodes
[02:01] <GodfatherofEire1> spottedzebra, bug in the thermal monitoring systray icon, set the temp-alarm to sudo init 0, and I guess its glitching such that any root programs trigger it to go off.
[02:01] <TestingTheTest> gorkhaan: is the SATA0 a physical place ?
[02:01] <mikec> i've used to to recovered deleted files from ext3
[02:02] <vader> khisanth, well its a new installation that i just did this morning, wouldnt hurt much to just reinstall it
[02:02] <mikec> and other filesystems
[02:02] <mikec> foremost is very nice.
[02:02] <gorkhaan> testingthetest: SATA0 is a Port on your motherboard. on new motherboars there are usually more than 4 ports
[02:02] <Selcal> Went to suse
[02:02] <sloopy> cappiz, usually one end isnt 1000Mbit, or cable cant support 1000Mbit
[02:02] <Selcal> had to come back for simplicity
[02:02] <Khisanth> vader: you could check with lsof
[02:02] <TestingTheTest> gorkhaan: how do i know which one SATA0 will be ?
[02:02] <Selcal> sigh Ubuntu is much bater
[02:02] <vader> khisanth , lsof?
 How did u installed ubuntu? Wubi? or to an EXT3 partition?
[02:03] <cappiz> ok, shouldn't cat5 support Gbit?
[02:03] <TestingTheTest> gorkhaan: used vista to shrink hard drive then used LiveCD to install.
[02:03] <cappiz> sloopy, i know my switch AND both computers have gbit
[02:03] <vader> khisanth, what would i search for?
[02:03] <Chris_W> Can anyone recomend a wireless usb adapter that works on ubuntu 8.10 out of the box with no ndiswrapper messing around?
[02:04] <sloopy> cappiz, and the cable?
[02:04] <NW2190> mikec, thanks let me see if that works
 I see, and now u cant boot neither of your Operating System right?
[02:04] <Khisanth> vader: lsof /path/to/lock/file
[02:04] <cappiz> cat5
[02:04] <mikec> ok, anyone know if ubuntu will function without SCSI emulation?
[02:05] <cappiz> sloopy, cat5
[02:05] <Chris_W> right ok ive had it. can anyone recomend a wireless usb adapter that works on ubuntu 8.10 out of the box with no ndiswrapper messing around?
[02:05] <TestingTheTest> yeah. but it's weird. i used to use my desktop all the time... but i turned it on a week or so ago to update and get some files and turned it off... now i can't access the boot menu.
[02:05] <TestingTheTest> @ gorkhaan *
[02:05] <carandraug> Chris_W: my Lynksis WUSB54g v4 works out of the box in 8.10 (but not on 8.04 or before)
[02:05] <Khisanth> vader: then look at the FD column and then 'man lsof' scroll down to OUTPUT and see which of the things for FD applies
[02:05] <gorkhaan> chris_W: Atheros cards are great as I heared
[02:05] <sloopy> cappiz, ahh depending on quality some vendors of cat5 wont work with G-enet cat5+ cat6
[02:06] <sloopy> cappiz, preferably cat6
[02:06] <mikec> Chris_W: can you tell me the chipset on that card?
[02:06] <cappiz> sloopy, new cables on saturday then :)
[02:06] <Chris_W> how can i do that?
[02:06] <cappiz> sloopy, how can i see what kind of connecion my eth0 has?
[02:06] <Khisanth> hmm
[02:06] <mikec> do you have the windows drivers handy?
[02:06] <thebloggu> my firefox in ubuntu 8.10 is having cookie session issues, mainly google
[02:06] <sloopy> cappiz, yeah would be the best, and make sure its cat6 if your buying
[02:06] <cappiz> if its 1000 or 100 mbit connectivity
[02:06] <mikec> you can read in the inf
 so?
[02:06] <mikec> usually has some garbage about the chip
[02:07] <Chris_W> ok ill check
[02:07] <TestingTheTest> gorkhaan: ... i used to be able to boot up ubuntu on my desktop just fine.. didn't use it for about a week and now this.
[02:07] <mikec> btw, often times the ndiswrapper way will work better.
[02:07] <thebloggu> my firefox in ubuntu 8.10 is having cookie session issues, mainly google
[02:07] <mikec> case point, the driver "wl" for my bcm4311 is crap
[02:07] <Chris_W> ok
[02:08] <mikec> but b43 or bcm43xx patched for aircrack-ng works better
[02:08] <sloopy> cappiz, sudo ethtool eth0
 I see. Try to boot with LIVECD, and check if is your datas are Readeable.
[02:08] <ruhaan_jslip> is there a way to cap HDD usage for a users home folder in ubuntu?
[02:08] <lasivian_> trying to get samba working, details here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/93009/
[02:08] <TestingTheTest> where do i check gorkhaan ?
[02:09] <mikec> ruhaan_jslip: qoutas
[02:09] <lasivian_> including what i'm doing, my fstab, and what i'm getting as results
[02:09] <ruhaan_jslip> mikec: can u explain a bit more?
[02:09]  * lasivian_ grovels
[02:09] <mikec> just google for linux disk qoutas
[02:09] <mikec> pretty easy to set up
[02:09] <cappiz> sloopy, thanks - only a 100mbit here yes
[02:09] <Chris_W> id doesn't say in the inf
[02:09] <cappiz> il buy cat6 then :)
[02:10] <sloopy> yeah card will check line capabilitys and then set max speed depending on cabling
 That's piece of cake, just insert your Ubuntu CD, boot with LiveCD, then you can see every partition in "Computer", they gonna be probably unmounted. but if you double click on them, it will mount.
[02:10] <cappiz> sloopy, no - hum
 I mean your partitions
[02:10] <Chris_W> is cappiz the ubuntu recomended wireless card?
[02:10] <cappiz> my lan has 1000mbit link
[02:11] <cappiz> Chris_W ?
[02:11] <mikec> Chris_W: what the model of the card and the revision?
[02:11] <Chris_W> the model is belkin 802.11g 54Mbps
[02:12] <TestingTheTest> gorkhaan: when i clicked on my main ubuntu partition it says "(some contents unreadable)" ... but that should be normal, right ? i have root on there too.
[02:12] <Kijutsu> Quick question; just updated ubuntu to the latest and greatest, and now gnome hangs after login at a black screen and mouse cursor.  i've tried gnome failsafe and it does the same.  i also get the startup sound from gnome but nothing else.  any ideas?
[02:12] <cappiz> sloopy, both computers says they have a 1000mbit connection
[02:12] <Khisanth> Chris_W: that is not a model number
[02:12] <mikec> Chris_W: the real model. like a series of letters and numbers usually
[02:12] <Chris_W> ok let me see
[02:12] <mikec> look on the back of it or something
 I dont think so... If I mount my partition what contains my ubuntu, I can Read  and Write on it, whithout any errors
[02:13] <Chris_W> is this is? 4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318
[02:13] <mikec> hm
[02:13] <TestingTheTest> gorkhaan: i didn't seperate my / from /home so it's all one.
[02:13] <mikec> that looked like a uuid
[02:13] <Chris_W> it says its a ClassGUID
  yeah, me too
[02:14] <lasivian_> trying to get samba working but it hates me, details/fstab/results are all here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/93009/ thanks
 but your ubuntu cant boot
[02:14] <Chris_W> is have a DeviceID
 if you have Vista Installer DVD you can repair it: Get to recovery mode and type:  FIXMBR      FIXBOOT
 After this your Grub gonna be erased ( from MBR )
  Google => "Vista restore MBR"
[02:16] <mikec> Chris_W: when you plug it in, what does dmesg show?
[02:16] <ksakjas> will ubuntu live cd boot off of sata dvd drives?
[02:16] <mike1504> Is anyone familiar with nautilus?  Mine runs at a snails pace in su mode, but is fine in normal user mode
[02:16] <ksakjas> ?
[02:16] <bastid_raZor> mike1504; gksudo
[02:16] <Kijutsu> ksakjas, yep.. just set your BIOS to use the SATA DVD drive as a bootup device
[02:17] <gorkhaan> ksakjas: Of course
[02:17] <ksakjas> ahhh good business thanks
[02:17] <mike1504> bastid_raZor it doesnot matter I usually use gksudo to get there but it is super slow with sudo too
[02:17] <Chris_W> nothing to do with the card
[02:17] <TestingTheTest> gorkhaan: when i tried to copy/paste my home folder it told me i don't have the correct permissions to read it... how can i ensure /home will be safe after i do that vista thing ?
[02:18] <bastid_raZor> mike1504; sudo is not meaht to be used with gui apps.
[02:18] <clauwn> hey, can anyone tell me what is executed when i click on "update manager" in system - administration???
 U can backup it:   ALT+F2   gksu nautilus       Then navigate to your /home/ folder and backup it
[02:18] <mikec> Chris_W: do you have the box?
[02:18] <mikec> model number is on the box
[02:19] <mikec> usually
[02:19] <Chris_W> dmesg does not show anything about my belkin card. i do have the box
[02:19] <Flannel> clauwn: update-manager
[02:19] <lasivian_> why would a samba mount be empty?
[02:19] <mikec> with the model number i can find the chipset
[02:19] <clauwn> Flannel, what exact command?
[02:19] <bastid_raZor> !gksudo
[02:19] <mike1504> bastid_raZor Yes I know, but it is super slow using gksudo too.  I like the gui log in of gksudo, but nautilus moves at a snails pace using it
 but be careful, do NOT copy the /home/ directory from LiveCD :D
[02:19] <Flannel> clauwn: update-manager, perhaps gksu update-manager, but I believe it handles the privledge escilation itself.
[02:19] <Khisanth> Chris_W: it should show up in lspci's output
[02:20] <Chris_W> the onl number on the box is 802.22g
[02:20] <clauwn> thanks
[02:20] <mikec> Chris_W: back of the box.
[02:21] <mikec> how about this, can you take a picture of the back of card and the back/sides of the box and let me see it?
[02:21] <mikec> OR
[02:21] <mikec> use ndiswrapper.
[02:21] <mike1504> bastid_raZor when I use konqueror in super user mode it works fine, plenty of speed, and nautilus has not always been then way, but I don't remember anything I did to slow it down
[02:21] <magtom2003> Evening all.  Installed Ubuntu 8.10 32 bit this week both on my laptop and desktop...Loveing it, it will only be a matter a days before I'm the "other" os free.  It's working flawlessly on my laptop...but on my Desktop it will just lock up on me at random times.  Lock up as, can type move mouse, even do a ctl alt backspace...nothing, I have to hard reboot using the power button...can anybody offer any suggestions on finding out what's 
[02:21] <Chris_W> there's nothing on the back. theres a seriel number on the bottom but i dont think thats it F5Dv050uk
[02:22] <donavan_> anyone done anything with TV cards ... I am trying to set up my channels using the 'scan' command but  there are no initial files for anywhere in the US... can anyone tell me what I need to do ?
[02:22] <gorkhaan> Chris_W: I donno if this should help but:      lsusb -v | grep wireless               or grep something from the output of "lsusb"
[02:22] <ruhaan_jslip> ok i installed quota and added teh settings to fstab
[02:23] <ruhaan_jslip> but i get error when running quota check
[02:23] <ruhaan_jslip> cannot stat mounted device /dev/root
[02:23] <ruhaan_jslip> help plz
[02:23]  * lasivian_ rattles a tin cup while saying "samba help, samba help for the hopeless..", *rattle*, *rattle*
[02:24] <Khisanth> lasivian_: if you are already hopeless then what is the point? :P
[02:24] <mikec> Chris_W: http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=179211
[02:24] <mikec> is this it?
[02:24] <lasivian_> Khisanth, uh, i'm a glutton for punishment?
[02:24] <spottedzebra> is there a program in ubuntu that creates a ghost drive?
[02:24] <Flannel> spottedzebra: What's a ghost drive?
[02:24] <magtom2003> anybody have suggestions for random lockup on 8.10 32 bit desktop?
[02:24] <lasivian_> Khisanth, I hate windows as much as I hate Ubuntu when it doesn't work so it's about even?
[02:24] <Chris_W> lsusb -v doesnt produce any results
[02:24] <bastid_raZor> mike1504; you're in Kubuntu or Ubuntu when nautilus runs slow?
[02:25] <Kijutsu> magtom2003, no errors?
[02:25] <spottedzebra> Flannel: its like daemontoolslite in windows
[02:25] <Flannel> spottedzebra: What does demontools do?
[02:25] <lasivian_> daemontools mounts a cd image as a drive
[02:25] <gorkhaan> that's Virtual Drive not ghost drive
[02:25] <mike1504> bastid_raZor I forgot to mention  that when I use GKSUDO the terminal has a contiuous bunch of the following ( Translate the Smiley to a P I Thiink, as I cut an pasted  )Usage:program_name [address][:port]Usage:program_name [address][:port]
[02:25] <Flannel> !iso | spottedzebra
[02:25] <Chris_W> thats the one
[02:26] <gorkhaan> try this:   AcetoneISO2    Google
[02:26] <spottedzebra> Flannel: thanks :)
[02:26] <Flannel> gorkhaan: No, linux mounts images with mount, you don't need third party tools
[02:26] <gorkhaan> I know, but why should we always use terminal? :)))))))
[02:26] <anonymice> I'm having a problem with a cron job that is not executed. crontab -l shows this: 15 * * * *     ruby /home/anonymice/myfolder/processusers.rb. I can run that command by hand but the cron job won't.
[02:27] <lasivian_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/93009/ <-- uh, help? :)
[02:27] <remu> Hey everyone....I need serious help. I was transferring pictures and videos from my MMC Pro Duo flash chip, and before the transfer was complete, I mistakenly did "Shift+Delete" in Nautilus.....I was wondering if all is lost? I have not unmounted the chip yet. Is there ANY way of me retrieving those files?
[02:27] <Flannel> gorkhaan: You can mount them in the GUI as well.  Again, no need for third party tools.
[02:27] <valiza1> Does anyone know if there is a way to save a bootable ISO (say Knoppix for example) to hard drive and then get GRUB to boot from it?
[02:27] <Flannel> remu: Fortunately, flash chips are FAT formatted, so you can use one of the undelete tools to probably recover most/all of them
[02:27] <gorkhaan> cu all, good night
[02:27] <remu> Flannel, is there one you would recommend?
[02:28] <remu> Flannel, And I am very glad to hear that, lol.
[02:28] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, ping
[02:28] <carandraug> gorkhaan: just right click on the iso and choose Open with archive mounter. It comes in Ubuntu 8.10 by default
[02:28] <magtom2003> anybody have suggestions for random lockup on 8.10 32 bit desktop?
[02:28] <Flannel> remu: I haven't used any personally, no.  But there should be something in the repository, or people here may know of one.
[02:28] <carandraug> spottedzebra: just right click on the iso and choose Open with archive mounter. It comes in Ubuntu 8.10 by default
[02:29] <booncer> might b yer ram magtom2003
[02:29] <mikec> i swear i would just use ndiswrapper instead of fretting about crap on irc
[02:29] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: hello
[02:29] <[e]Lement> magtom2003, 8.10 seems very laggy to me.  Especially compared to 7.10 and 8.04.  I guess my system is just that outdated.
[02:29] <mikec> [e]Lement: turn off crap you don't need
[02:29] <remu> Flannel, thanks.
[02:29] <magtom2003> system is only 3 mo old...
[02:29] <carandraug> remu: I've used some of those recovery software. It was in a external HHD, not a flash card but I'm guessing it's similar
[02:29] <mikec> it runs quick on a p4 2.66Ghz
[02:29] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: merry christmas :-)
[02:29] <booncer> i had a bad stick n it gave me random lockups new ram problem solved
[02:30] <[e]Lement> mikec, been there done that.  It seems as I upgraded my distros it progressively got slower.
[02:30] <remu> carandraug, yes, I'm sure its similar. How did you go about doing that?
[02:30] <solid_liq> !ping
[02:30] <magtom2003> 3.0 G, Nvidia 9800 GT, 3 Gb ram,
[02:30] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, hey (i am pixelated on my home machine) i was wondering if you made a web page with your directions on the setup of xorg from scratch
[02:30] <mikec> [e]Lement: but 8.10 is running quick on a the machine i just mentioned
[02:30] <mikec> hell, its running quick on esx.
[02:30] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, and merry xmas in return :')
[02:31] <magtom2003> It's crazy, I just don't even know where to start
[02:31] <booncer> id try it with 1gb magtom2003
[02:31] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: no, i have no web page, sorry. i have a copy of the instructions in a text file is all
[02:31] <booncer> u never kno
[02:31] <spottedzebra> carandraug: i haven't upgraded yet
[02:32] <remu> carandraug, do you remember how you did it?
[02:32] <AngryElf> the new network connection manager in 8.10 blows -- everytime I reboot it creats a new automatic DHCP connection under wired that gets enabled and doesn't use the static connection that I've previously set up with a specific IP -- why?
[02:32] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: perhaps i should register on the forums and make a post on there though
[02:32] <carandraug> remu: I tried several back then. foremost, magic rescue and another one that I can't rememeber the name. They were pretty straightforward but all run in the terminal
[02:32] <crystal> Anyone know a good program for ipods?
[02:32] <remu> mmk
[02:33] <remu> carandraug, thanks, ill look into those
[02:33] <carandraug> remu: the one that I can't remember the name was specifically for pictures which would be nice for you. I'll try to look for it
[02:33] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: err, pixelated ;), would you like  a copy of the file?
[02:33] <spottedzebra> !iso
[02:34] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, ahh ok i was remaking my 10 second quick tips file and was gonna put that in but i am at work and i saved it at home
[02:34] <remu> carandraug, I had pictures and videos....I think i was able to get all of the pictures off, but the videos are what i am afraid dissappeared
[02:34] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, sure if its handy
[02:34] <onetinsoldier> ok, hang on
[02:34] <spottedzebra> !MD5
[02:34] <moDumass> hey all, my beloved gf gave me an eeepc 900, windows, how do i linux this baby up?
[02:35] <carandraug> remu: Photorec is file data recovery software designed to recover lost pictures from digital camera memory or even Hard Disks.
[02:35] <moDumass> ive been looking for an ubuntu dist for the eee pc
[02:35] <moDumass> any ideas>
[02:35] <Tillotson> eebuntu?
[02:35] <remu> carandraug, thanks. I'll look into that as well. I just installed foremost, and am reading the man pages for it.
[02:35] <TestingTheTest> um, someone told me to use a Vista CD to delete Grub and reinstate Windows' Bootloader... i want to restore GRUB not Windows.
[02:35] <veloc1ty> moDumass, check http://www.eeebuntu.org/
[02:36] <carandraug> remu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[02:36] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: ok , sending it now
[02:36] <booncer> magtom2003 my system was brand new just faulty ram
[02:36] <remu> thanks alot carandraug, hopefully my sister wont kill me now, lol
[02:37] <carandraug> remu: the other one I used, Magic rescue I recall to be nice. It's a bit tricky but I can help you with the recipes if you need
[02:37] <crystal> Anyone know a good program for ipods?
[02:37] <remu> carandraug, what do you mean by recipes?
[02:37] <moDumass> thanks velocity
[02:38] <magtom2003> ok, We'll check out the ram and see if that helps
[02:38] <magtom2003> I really want it to work, I'm in love...just not with the lockups
[02:39] <crystal> Anyone know a good program for ipods?
[02:40] <hansel> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+ipod+software
[02:40] <hansel> try that crystal
[02:40] <carandraug> remu: with magic rescue, you have to point to a file with instructions to extract the kind of file you want. The instructions are different depending on the kind of file you want. To these instructions they call recipe
[02:40] <muse> question - does anyone know how or have a link to information about booting into an nx / freenx or nx client session?
[02:41] <lasivian_> you know, if you would have had a look at my paste you would have seen my error in seconds and I would have shut up and left ;)
[02:41]  * lasivian_ wavs
[02:41] <rraj_be> Hello good morning everryone
[02:41] <rraj_be> could any one help me with this
[02:41] <rraj_be> http://pastebin.ca/1293766
[02:41] <remu> carandraug, oh okay. I am trying to recover using foremost, looks like it is simple enough and will do the trick. I was just wondering, how do i figure out what my flash drive is located as? like how do i know if it is /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb2 and etc.
[02:41] <crystal> hansel, I've already done that, tried about 5 different programs so thank you for being an asshole
[02:42] <carandraug> remu: "sudo fdisk -l"
[02:42] <remu> carandraug, thanks
[02:42] <unop_> !language | crystal
[02:42] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, sry i am at work and got busy, thats for the file...
[02:42] <crystal> Has anyone had personal success with a program for iPods?
[02:43] <Guest14146> are newbs allowed here =)
[02:43] <hansel> crystal - gtkpod... go to #gtkpod and ask.  Which model of ipod do you have?  What is your past problem w a specific software?
[02:43] <unop_> crystal, i use gtkpod
[02:43] <spottedzebra> what does the MD5 check of an .iso file do
[02:43] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: you're welcome :-)
[02:43] <nicolas> Hey guys,
[02:43] <tuxdistro> hey everyone
[02:43] <hansel> !md5
[02:44] <_anigma> is there a way to boot into a text-based environment on ubuntu 8.04 live cd?
[02:44] <hansel> spottedzebra: an md5checksum gives you a fairly high level of confidence that there was no corruption in the image you downloaded...
[02:44] <sloopy> err thanks not thats ;')
[02:44] <nicolas> ubuntu doesnt want to play dvds, if I cant get this to work, I'm going back to windows!
[02:44] <rraj_be> http://pastebin.ca/1293766
[02:44] <rraj_be> any help plz
[02:44] <nicolas> anybody have any ideas?
[02:44] <yzfR1> Hi, is anyone familiar with the problem of FN keys and how changing your brightness on Dell laptops makes ubuntu unresponsive?
[02:44] <crystal> hansel, unop_, gtkpod does not work with the new ipods
[02:44] <unop_> spottedzebra, creates a hash that you can compare against one compiled by another source (i.e. distributor, mirror, etc) to know if the copy you downloaded is the exact same as that on the source.
[02:44] <genii> spottedzebra: It provides a way to know that your download is not corrupted
[02:44] <ruhaan_jslip> how do i save a file in Vi?
[02:44] <ruhaan_jslip> the terminal editor
[02:44] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, :w
[02:44] <crystal> hansel, unop_, the latest version is from 2007
[02:44] <sloopy> ruhaan_jslip, :wq or ZZ
[02:44] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, or  :write
[02:45] <unop_> crystal, i bought a 6th gen. ipod in march this year that works with gtkpod
[02:45] <_anigma> is there a way to boot into a text-based environment on ubuntu 8.04 live cd?
[02:45] <_anigma> I can't get X Window/Gnome to work on my monitor...
[02:45] <unop_> _anigma, i believe there is a way .. press F3 or F4 at the boot prompt for options
[02:46] <yzfR1> Hi, is it normal to have very few lines in the xorg.conf for ubuntu 8.10?
[02:46] <remu> carandraug, foremost is running....fingers crossed, does it take a while? The maximum size of my flash card is 4GB
[02:46] <spottedzebra> hansel, unop, genii: thanks
[02:46] <hansel> crystal http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/Supported+iPods
[02:46] <unop_> yzfR1, yes
[02:46] <crystal> unop_, the new chromatic ipods must have a different directory structure ... hansel
[02:46] <yzfR1> unop_, ty
[02:46] <nicolas> oh yeah, it says when I try to play a movie, it says: "Could not read from source" any ideas?
[02:46] <rraj_be> could any one help me with vmware instaltion problem
[02:46] <ruhaan_jslip> doesnt work
[02:46] <rraj_be> the error is i cant build vmmon
[02:46] <remu> nicolas, were you able to get information as to how to get dvds playing?
[02:46] <ruhaan_jslip> when i ytpe :W vi just types that into the file
[02:46] <rraj_be> http://pastebin.ca/1293766
[02:47] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, you must be in Command Mode for that to work .. press Esc first to get into that mode
[02:47] <nicolas> remu: no, I tried downloading all the codecs but still it wont work, Totem attempts to play a movie but then it says that it cant read source
[02:47] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, and note it is :w not :W
[02:47] <ruhaan_jslip> pressing esc doesn nothing
[02:47] <remu> nicolas, I take it that this is for a retail dvd?
[02:47] <yzfR1> Hi, can anyone tell me if there is a fix for the FN key problems locking up your ubuntu 8.10? I've tried googling it and all i found were confirmations of the bug and no fixes.
[02:47] <sloopy> ruhaan_jslip, :wq saves and quits
[02:47] <nicolas> remu: YES
[02:47] <nicolas> remu: IS THAT Why it wont work????
[02:48] <ruhaan_jslip> pressing esc does nothing
[02:48] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, pressing Esc switches modes .. type :w after that
[02:48] <hansel> :q      push INSERT?
[02:48] <remu> nicolas, Yes, because retail DVDs are encrypted. And for license purposes, Ubuntu can't be shipped with the ability to play them right off the bat.
[02:48] <carandraug> remu: my disk was 80Gb and heavily fragmented. I let it ran for two days and then the light went off. Then I ran Magic rescue and it ran for a week and a half
[02:48] <crystal> Anyone know a program that will work with the new chromatic ipods?
[02:49] <nicolas> remu: OHHH
[02:49] <unop_> hansel, with regards to vi. no,  :q  is short for :quit
[02:49] <remu> carandraug, wow, okay, good to know, because I thought it was going to slow...turns out it isnt, haha
[02:49] <nicolas> remu: so is there any software available on synaptic that I should know about??
[02:49] <hansel> unop_: that's what I was telling him to do.  :)
[02:49] <remu> nicolas, yes and no. It is not available in the standard Canonical repositories.
[02:50] <unop_> hansel, i believe his question was "how to save a file" ...
[02:50] <hansel> unop_: well if he claims he's been trying :w it ought to have worked and :q will tell him if he needs to still save or not.
[02:50] <nicolas> remu: ok, know of any programs that I could search for?
[02:50] <remu> nicolas, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid#DVD_Playback_Capability and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu and
[02:51] <remu> nicolas, I've found that ubuntuguide.org can come in handy, I would bookmark it. Good Luck!
[02:51] <unop_> hansel, but he was in insert mode .. he needed to be in command mode for either to have worked.
[02:51] <jason_> yes very handy
[02:51] <dublpaws> I've got a gripe with apt pkg manager, often times `apt-get install somepackage`, and _nowhere_ is it indicated in the install scroll what the actual cmdline name for invoking somepackage.  Is there a flag available to force apt-get emit the command name?
[02:51] <nicolas> remu: thank you very much, I'm gonna look this up right now
[02:52] <remu> nicolas, No worries.
[02:52] <ruhaan_jslip> do i have to press colon and w at the same time?
[02:52] <hansel> dublpaws: you can apt-cache search SOME-COMPONENT and it will tell you the full package name... not sure if that's what you mean.
[02:52] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, no,  : then q then ENTER/RETURN
[02:52] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, or,  : then w then ENTER
[02:53] <ruhaan_jslip> when i press enter it takes me to te next line
[02:53] <pablo_> hello, is it reasonable that a package does not log anymore, before i remove the /var/log files ? i tried to mkdir again but it fails
[02:53] <rraj_be> could any one help me with vmware instaltion problem
[02:53] <ruhaan_jslip> even though i m in command mode
[02:53] <rraj_be> http://pastebin.ca/1293766
[02:53] <remu> nicolas, I personally would reccommend the Medibuntu route, because there are other programs available through that repository, things such as GoogleEarth, Skype, Adobe Reader, etc.
[02:53] <remu> http://www.medibuntu.org/
[02:54] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, you're probably not pressing : properly (as you're trying : and w at the same time) - in which case enter will take you to the next line
[02:54] <AngryElf> any idea why every time i reboot ubuntu creates a new connectin under my wired network settings and uses that instead?
[02:54] <ruhaan_jslip> unop_: i m pressing properly
[02:54] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip,  Esc then :  then w then Enter
[02:55] <ruhaan_jslip> ok when i press esc it goes to cmd mode
[02:55] <ruhaan_jslip> i type colon
[02:55] <ruhaan_jslip> then when i press q it types q in the file
[02:55] <dublpaws> hansel: a package might be named "foo" and the program has path /usr/bin/bar    nowhere does the installed say "To run program foo you must type $bar"
[02:55] <yzfR1> I have a quick newb question for anyone willing to answer: What is TTY and what does it mean to switch TTY
[02:56] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, it's not entering :q at the very last line, is it?
[02:56] <ruhaan_jslip> no its not entering the colon but its entering the q
[02:57] <yzfR1> what does flipping to a VT mean?
[02:57] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, what happens when you press : - is that entered anywhere at all ?
[02:57] <carandraug> yzfR1: type Ctr+Alt+FX where X is a 1-6. Use the 7 to come back.
[02:57] <RizR> any screenlet that works with lm-sensors? anyone?
[02:57] <ruhaan_jslip> unop if i press esc before teh colon then no
[02:58] <ruhaan_jslip> but without esc it does appear
[02:58] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, where does it appear?
[02:58] <jjore> The 8.10 livecd wants a username/pw when I boot.  what do I give it?
[02:58] <yzfR1> carandraug, what is it that i'm actually accessing though when  i  press F1-F6?
[02:58] <ruhaan_jslip> in the text file
[02:58] <[e]Lement> yzfR1, different ttys
[02:58] <hansel> dublpaws - dpkg -L program       it will show you the path to /bin and the prog name
[02:58] <dublpaws> awesome! thanks hansel !
[02:59] <yzfR1> [e]Lement, what's a ttys? sorry i'm new to unbuntu
[02:59] <carandraug> yzfR1: to a tty. I've also heard calling them vc (virtual console)
[02:59] <yzfR1> ubuntu*
[02:59] <[e]Lement> yzfR1, it's basically a way to output stuff from the OS
[02:59] <[e]Lement> TTY stands for Teletypewriter.
[02:59] <yzfR1> oh ok ty carandraug, and [e]Lement!
[02:59] <waxhead__> hey all...
[02:59] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip,  in vim, ex commands i.e. :w  :q  etc are shown at the very last line - which is not part of the text itself , it's the command space
[02:59] <ruhaan_jslip> hmm
[02:59] <dublpaws> yzfR1: you can do $tty at the bash to see which one your on
[02:59] <waxhead__> has anyone had problems with recent upgrades stopping the automounting of audio cds?
[02:59] <[e]Lement> I'm on tty 1337
[03:00] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, if you aren't seeing that - i don't think you are using vim - because by all means, you should be seeing this
[03:00] <[e]Lement> Can't mess with me
[03:00] <ruhaan_jslip> well i m using vim that i m sure of
[03:00] <jennifer> so i have a VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY video card - ubuntu doesn't have anything listed for the hardware drivers with the video card.  do i need to install some drivers?  video seems slow/choppy.
[03:00] <yzfR1> wait, how i put myself on tty 1337 [e]Lement?
[03:00] <yzfR1> ;)
[03:00] <dublpaws> yzfR1: $ echo "hello" > /dev/tty/??  and redirect things to it.
[03:00] <[e]Lement> yzfR1, was a joke of course.  Haha
[03:01] <yzfR1> [e]Lement, i know =)
[03:01] <max_> I have two problems, both relate to the same piece of hardware.
[03:01] <max_> Actually ..
[03:01] <max_> no.
[03:01] <hansel> !ask | max_
[03:01] <jennifer> !enter | max_
[03:01] <max_> Okay.
[03:01] <yzfR1> Out of curiousity, are most of you using Konversation or XChat for IRC ?
[03:02] <jennifer> xchat
[03:02] <max_> Xchat.
[03:02] <[e]Lement> I prefer xChat
[03:02] <[e]Lement> XChat*
[03:02] <max_> How do I add on more resolutions?
[03:02] <dublpaws> irssi with screen
[03:02] <yzfR1> k i'll switch now
[03:02] <Org-Mode> irssi
[03:02] <max_> I have a really, really old card and I'm stuck below 800X600
[03:02] <hansel> max_ edit your xorg.conf in /etc/X11 and make sure your card can support it.
[03:02] <[e]Lement> yzfR1, don't switch because of us...lol.  Such a follower.  We should have told him we used mIRC and messed with his head...lol
[03:02] <MenZa> !resolution | max_
[03:02] <Org-Mode> lol
[03:03] <hansel> yzfR1 - we are all using telnet... /raw IRC command ftw.
[03:03] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, you see this here http://sao-paulo.pm.org/papers/alceu/vim4perl/20040510-vim_colorscheme_nightwish.png  - the person is entering an ex command on the very last line (in the command mode)
[03:03] <[e]Lement> LOL
[03:03] <ruhaan_jslip> oh wait my bad i m using nano
[03:03] <ruhaan_jslip> whats teh command for nano?
[03:03] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, heh - no idea
[03:03] <jennifer> so does my vid card not need any restricted drivers from ati?
[03:04] <jennifer> ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY
[03:04] <hansel> ruhaan_jslip: man nano
[03:04] <jjore> Hi. The LiveCD is asking for a user/pw to start. What do I give it?
[03:04] <hansel> ruhaan_jslip: to save in nano I believe its CTRL O
[03:04] <[e]Lement> hansel, you would be correct
[03:04] <ruhaan_jslip> ok thnx worked
[03:04] <jennifer> jjore, the livecd should never ask.  if you're installing a system then it's asking for what you want to put in.
[03:04] <hansel> ruhaan_jslip: have you ever used the man pages before?
[03:05] <Flannel> jjore: It shouldn't need one if it's an official Ubuntu iso.  Try ubuntu and blank.  Have you checked the CD for defects? (boot menu)
[03:05] <ruhaan_jslip> nope
[03:05] <ruhaan_jslip> link me
[03:05] <jennifer> !ati
[03:05] <hansel> ruhaan_jslip: type        man nano         in a terminal...
[03:05]  * jjore will try checking for defects. It is a 8.10 install CD he just downloaded.
[03:05] <ruhaan_jslip> oh
[03:05] <ruhaan_jslip> thnx for the help
[03:05] <[e]Lement> Jennifer, technically all video cards need a restricted driver.  Maybe you don't have one available for your card.
[03:05] <hansel> you can do that w most any command... it will give you the 411 on the inner workings of the tool.
[03:05] <jennifer> [e]Lement, what about intel cards?   didn't think those were really "restricted"
[03:06] <[e]Lement> Hm, I don't know if Intel has open source drivers.
[03:06] <unop_> [e]Lement, that's not true - video cards for which open source drivers exist do not need a restricted driver
[03:06] <jennifer> indeed
[03:06] <[e]Lement> unop_, yes.  I was thinking of that after I said it.  Haha
[03:07] <blue1> Ive just installed a LAMP server on ubuntu 8.10 and I want to remotely access localhost through hamachi is this possible?
[03:07] <[e]Lement> unop_, rather I forgot about Intel cards entirely.
[03:07] <unop_> [e]Lement, having said that - restricted drivers do not always exist either
[03:07] <jennifer> and i know the newer ati cards are amd branded.  but this one shouldn't be.
[03:07] <|Zippo|> hi, my swap partition it's 2gb, but intrepid is mounting and showing just 512mb
[03:07] <|Zippo|> Swap:       515784     211964     303820
[03:07] <Nickman1> hi, i am trying to play a game online, where do i find the IP address i need to have someone connect to my pc?
[03:07] <[e]Lement> unop_, of course.
[03:07] <jennifer> my server has an intel card.  picked it specifically for that actually :D
[03:07] <dublpaws> Nickman1: ifconfig
[03:07] <R1_> Does anyone know why the xorg.conf file in ubuntu 8.10 is almost empty?
[03:08] <dfbb> irc://irc.mozilla.org#maildev
[03:08] <hansel> Nickman1: ifconfig will show your LAN address... for your WAN ip go to www.findmyip.com
[03:08] <dublpaws> Nickman1: note that you may have firewall issues if using residential broadband.
[03:08] <unop_> R1_, the new xorg is automagic - meaning it configures itself automatically without relying on a configuration file (xorg.conf)
[03:08] <carandraug> Nickman1:  http://www.whatismyip.com/
[03:08] <Nickman1> which one do i need to have someone from another pc connect to my pc?
[03:08] <Nickman1> LAN or WAN?
[03:08] <hansel> Nickman1 - realize that you will need to setup port forwarding on your router if you are NATd
[03:08] <hansel> WAN ip...
[03:09] <hansel> and you need to config your router to allow them to connect to your LAN ip behind the router.
[03:09] <Nickman1> ouch, how do i do that?
[03:09] <Nickman1> :S
[03:09] <hansel> ie; your WAN ip is 1.2.3.4 and your LAN ip is 192.168.1.100       If they connect to 1.2.3.4 the router won't know what to do w their packets.
[03:09] <Zzeiss> R1_:  Well, mostly automagic.  You can (and may need to) override anything.  F'rinstance, Ihave to override the driver and HorizSync on this here laptop.
[03:09] <ryuho> what's a good little program to graph network activity in ubuntu
[03:09] <Decepticon> how can i make my own voip solution
[03:09] <Decepticon> ryuho munin
[03:09] <ryuho> that i can put on the panel bars
[03:10] <hansel> so you go to 192.168.1.1 (assuming you have 192.168.1.100, in most configurations scenarios) and see if your router allows port forwarding.
[03:10] <Decepticon> ryuho do you want to see a demonstration of my grpahs
[03:10] <R1_> unop_, so say I installed the application Touchpad which requires shmconfig to be "true" in xorg.conf but xorg.conf does not contain the synaptic input section anymore. Would the only way to enable shmconfig be making a shmconfig file in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ dir?
[03:10] <Org-Mode> ntop ryuho
[03:10] <Org-Mode> ntop rules
[03:10] <quizme> i'm trying to receive mail at alan@mrturing.com from yahoo or gmail, but i'm not even getting bounce messages or messages in my error logs.
[03:10] <quizme> can somebody help me with postfix
[03:10] <quizme> been working on it for 2 days
[03:10] <hansel> Nickman1 - http://192.168.1.1
[03:10] <jennifer> how can i tell what video driver ubuntu is actually using?  xorg.conf is pretty much useless now.
[03:10] <Decepticon> Org-Mode what does ntop do? is it ncurses? does it work cli does it look like htop?
[03:10] <thirtyechos> why no tor on irc.ubuntu ?
[03:10] <hansel> jennifer - lsmod
[03:10] <unop_> R1_, no, as Zzeiss says - you can put directives in xorg.conf to override automagic settings with your own
[03:11] <Org-Mode> ntop is webbased
[03:11] <Zzeiss> jennifer: take a look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:11] <R1_> Zzeiss and unop_, thank you
[03:11] <ryuho> thanks Decepticon and Org-Mode ill google from what you guys gave me
[03:11] <unop_> R1_, so it's a matter of creating the appropriate input device section
[03:11] <Org-Mode> yw
[03:11] <Nickman1> you want me to opent hat site?
[03:11] <Tenkawa> Anyone else noticed something in 8.10 synaptics where if you try to do a quick search on say mysql it comes up with nothing although you can scroll through the list and find plenty of mysql packages in the main list
[03:12] <R1_> unop_, I supposed a quick google search would  provide instructions how to appropriately add input device sections?
[03:12] <Tenkawa> am I mising something with spm's search syntax?
[03:12] <Org-Mode> Decepticon: the ncurses network stat monitor that i know of is iptraf  but its text not graphs
[03:12] <thirtyechos> Tenkawa its that the other packages have mysql in the discription
[03:12] <blue1> whats the best way to setup access to localhost remotely?
[03:12] <Decepticon> Org-Mode iptraf hurts my eyes. ntop what is ntop like
[03:12] <unop_> R1_, sure, but the authoritative source might be the xorg.conf manpage  i.e.   man xorg.conf
[03:12] <Tenkawa> thirtyechos: yeah but it comes up with none in a quick search at all
[03:12] <Org-Mode> ntop is webbased munin kinda sorta
[03:12] <jennifer> looks like radeon.  i see a lot of lines that start with RADEON, and drm = radeon in lsmod.
[03:13] <Tenkawa> although apt-cache search or non-searched list shows matches
[03:13] <thirtyechos> why can't i use tor with the freenode servers?
[03:13] <Tenkawa> just seems oddd
[03:13] <Zzeiss> jennifer: Yep.  That would be it.
[03:13] <jennifer> Zzeiss, sweet, thanks.  so i'm guessing 1024x768 is this monitor's max?  is there any way to tell if it's the absolute max like dxdiag?
[03:13] <R1_> unop_, thanks I'll check out the manual
[03:14] <dublpaws> blue1: reverse ssh tunnel, to get fancy have a script keep the connection alive:  http://www.howtoforge.com/reverse-ssh-tunneling
[03:14] <Tenkawa> I'll say this though... 8.10 runs great on a former xp running acer aspire one
[03:14] <Tenkawa> after tweaking the ath5k stuff it runs great
[03:14] <Zzeiss> jennifer: the easy way is to look up the monitor model via google.
[03:15] <jennifer> Zzeiss, it's a laptop.
[03:15] <Zzeiss> jennifer: and don't be too sure that X will always get it right.  I am using a Macbook Unibody, and unless I set HorizSync, I don't get full resolution.
[03:15] <jennifer> looks like 1024x768 is the max tho.
[03:16] <jennifer> glxgears is 50fps @ full screen.  not bad.
[03:16] <Zzeiss> jennifer: what laptop is it?
[03:16] <jennifer> ah well i think i'm done.  merry xmas all.
[03:16] <jennifer> thinkpad r40
[03:16] <Tenkawa> Zzeiss: yeah... macbooks are quite "fun" to get X fully working
[03:16] <jennifer> http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/thinkpad-r40/4507-3121_7-20833353.html - i found it
[03:16] <mikec> macbooks are even more fun with fbsd
[03:17] <thorsten11> has anyone successfuly got pptp vpn working on an ubuntu server?  I am having issues and just looking to be pointed in the right direction
[03:17] <Zzeiss> Tenkawa: Well, it works now.  :) Suspend doesn't, though hibernate-to-disk does.  Except that sound goes away and doesn't come back.
[03:17] <Tenkawa> mikec: I had enough fun with fbsd on my dual x2.... not even going to try efi based equip
[03:17] <ryuho> I want something in the panel in ubuntu that tells my current network usage with a little bar or something, any ideas?
[03:17] <Zzeiss> Tenkawa: but the unibody hardware is so drop-ded sexy tha tit's worth it. :)
[03:17] <Tenkawa> Zzeiss: bummer
[03:17] <mikec> Tenkawa: its working on mine
[03:17] <Tenkawa> heheh
[03:17] <jennifer> Zzeiss, every good-god-awful think you could want to know about this craptop.  right down to the 20gb hdd lol
[03:18] <Tenkawa> mikec: yeah I know it does... I'm just not up for the tweaking heheeh
[03:18] <thirtyechos> about 8.10 microphone doesn't work on an inspiron 530 after install and the ati/amd prop. driver sucks over whatever OpenS. driver ubuntu uses for it.
[03:18] <jennifer> although this one's is 30gb now that i think of it.  eh well
[03:18] <jennifer> i'm out
[03:18] <jennifer> peacde
[03:18] <Tenkawa> mikec: I went through enough with my quad core and esxi that I need a break from major tweaking
[03:18] <mikec> i cheat on all my installs, i install everything from vmware
[03:18] <Tenkawa> heheheh
[03:18] <Tenkawa> vmware ftw :)
[03:18] <mikec> esx is great
[03:18] <magtom2003> If you're services-admin is all grayed out...how do you change the options?
[03:19] <Tenkawa> yep
[03:19] <dublpaws> ryuho: wmnetmon might work with your window manager.
[03:19] <Tenkawa> I agree
[03:19] <ryuho> sweet, i think netspeed was my answer
[03:19] <mikec> yeah, i install via vmware, then just boot natively
[03:19] <thirtyechos> click unlock
[03:19] <Tenkawa> nice
[03:19] <magtom2003> I tried gksudo
[03:19] <magtom2003> that's grayed also
[03:19] <thirtyechos> hmmm
[03:19] <mikec> its also great for modifying things, etc while still running something else already working great
[03:19] <Tenkawa> yeah
[03:19] <thirtyechos> which version?
[03:19] <Tenkawa> well time for me to do some reading
[03:19] <magtom2003> 8.10 32 bit
[03:19] <Tenkawa> cheers all
[03:19] <Zzeiss> magtom2003: look down at the bottom of the window, you will see a padlock with something like "authorize" or "unlock".  Click that.
[03:20] <thirtyechos> fresh install?
[03:20] <magtom2003> the Unlock is Grayed aswell...yes just installed it about an hour ago
[03:20] <thirtyechos> strange.. lemme look into it.
[03:20] <Zzeiss> magtom2003: OK, then the account you're using is not in sudoers....
[03:21] <thirtyechos> can you sudo in the terminal?
[03:21] <thirtyechos> and also is it just in services? same problem in say users?
[03:21] <thirtyechos> users and groups
[03:22] <magtom2003> Yeah same in users expect myself
[03:22] <Org-Mode> !who | thirtyechos
[03:22] <magtom2003> I The aye
[03:22] <thirtyechos> ubottu: sorry
[03:22] <Org-Mode> lol
[03:23] <thirtyechos> magtom2003: can you unlock users?
[03:23] <thirtyechos> ubottu: & thanks
[03:23] <thirtyechos> ha
[03:24] <magtom2003> thirtyechos: Yeah, how can I change my group to allow that?
[03:25] <donavan_> any one had any experience with tv tuners?
[03:25] <billybigrigger> can anyone suggest to me the best partition setup and which fs to use?
[03:26] <billybigrigger> i have 4gb ram so a 1gb swap partition is lots, also with a 300gb hdd i would like most of it to be allocated to my /home, but what is recommended for / ???
[03:26] <Org-Mode> !TV | donavan_
[03:26] <thirtyechos> magtom2003:  unlock users / click on your user name / click on properties
[03:27] <carandraug> billybigrigger: 15-20Gb is more than you'll probably ever use.
[03:27] <thirtyechos> magtom2003:  make sure you have permissions, but this is weired because if you can change these settings then you are a sudoer (i think)
[03:27] <billybigrigger> carandraug, ya i was thinking 25gb would be plenty
[03:27] <R1_> Is anyone else here familiar with problems with gnome-power-management and laptop brightness in  ubuntu 8.10 ??
[03:27] <thirtyechos> magtom2003:  have you ran all of the updates?
[03:28] <wash-hasted> i can compile c++ code in terminal but does any one know of a decent c++ compiler for ubuntu ?
[03:28] <Flannel> wash-hasted: gcc (well g++)
[03:29] <Flannel> wash-hasted: You mean an IDE?
[03:29] <billybigrigger> i usually set my fs to ext3 but with a recent ubuntu crash i decided i want to try something else...i tried opensuse 11.1 on xfs for about a day and was sick of suse after a few hours so im back to ubuntu, but i dont want to run into a corrupt fs again, so for a 250+GB /home partition that will have mostly music, and larger video files, i want a fs that is fast but also dependable, is ext3 the best choice or should i try reiser o
[03:29] <billybigrigger> r xfs?
[03:29] <R1_> Hi, if anyone here is free, experienced with ubuntu, and willing to help a new ubuntu lover, please PM me
[03:29] <donavan_> Org-Mode: yeah I am reading that now ... but I am stuck ... I cant seem to get the scan to work... it doesnt find any frequencies and the tuning fails everytime
[03:29] <carandraug> billybigrigger: that would be a lot. On my old install I had 20Gb for / . I never went above 5. At the moment I have 15. The programs that take a lot of space are applications installed in wine and all those are in /home
[03:29] <Flannel> !anyone | R1_
[03:30] <R1_> ubottu, will do
[03:30] <billybigrigger> carandraug, ok i will try out a 15g /
[03:30] <AngryElf> how come the add button in Network Connections => VPN is greyed out?
[03:30] <Org-Mode> hmmm yeah donavan_ you'll have to just keep asking like every 5-10 mins because i dont have experience with tv cards sorry :)
[03:31] <R1_> what is the abbrevation  PPA
[03:31] <Flannel> R1_: Personal Package Archive
[03:31] <Paddy_EIRE> !ppa | R1_
[03:31] <davenull> AngryElf: You have to install the client for the VPN type you are going to connect to.
[03:31] <donavan_> Org-mode: thanks  for the help though ... I seem to be stuck nicely
[03:31] <Org-Mode> np goodluck donavan_ :)
[03:31] <R1_> How do you download someone's public PPA package
[03:32] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, what are you trying to do specifically?
[03:33] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, my laptop crashes/becomes unresponsive when I use FN keys on my laptop and I found a  solution on a forum on launchpad, but the solution requires  me to download something that someone has built from a PPA  site and I don't really understand this stuff since  i just started using ubuntu yesterday
[03:34] <R1_> the file i need is gnome-power-manager - 2.24.0-0ubuntu8+wgrant1
[03:34] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, link me to where you are getting your info please :)
[03:35] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, go to http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-966869.html and search wgrant =)   Thanks
[03:35] <billybigrigger> for music and larg video files, which filesystem is a better choice for my /home??? ext3 xfs or reiser? i want the fastest and most dependable fs
[03:35] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, Just a moment.. no probs :)
[03:36] <JeffZ-> I think I am having a problem with my opengl driver.  I play a game called 'AssaultCube', and under Windows with a 800x600 resolution I get at least 60fps.  Under Ubuntu I only get 20fps with a resolution of 640x480.  I had Linux Mint installed before this, my frame rate was much better.  Any suggestions?
[03:37] <Paddy_EIRE> ok R1_ so go to "System > Administration > Software Sources"
[03:37] <wsgordon_> anyone help please, how do i install a run file
[03:38] <sloopy> ws 'sh filename.run'
[03:38] <sloopy> wsgordon, 'sh filename.run'
[03:38] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, i'm there
[03:38] <sloopy> JeffZ-, do you have DRI/GLX running in hardware or software?
[03:38] <CuriosCat> hrmf.
[03:38] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, choose the "Third-Party Software" tab and add this repository (ppa) "https://launchpad.net/~wgrant/+archive" without the quotes of course :)
[03:39] <JeffZ-> I'm not sure, how do I tell?
[03:39] <wsgordon_> tried sh Verifying archive integrity...tail: cannot open `+6' for reading: No such file or directory
[03:39] <wsgordon_>  thats my output
[03:39] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, everything from http to archive
[03:39] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, 1 sec =D
[03:39] <akio> im looking for a nice graphical network traffic monitor for my personal connection that shows me which programs are responsible for the mystery network traffic on my little MSI Wind. Any suggestions?
[03:39] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, sure
[03:40] <akio> did that first line get eaten?
[03:40] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, once you add that reload your package lists and update :)
[03:40] <sloopy> JeffZ-, 'glxinfo | grep rendering'
[03:40] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, if you need any more help just ring :P
[03:40] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, i'm having trouble adding it
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, how so?
[03:41] <JeffZ-> sloopy, it says "direct rendering: Yes"
[03:41] <wsgordon_> it typed sh heretic2-install-x86.run
[03:41] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, when i put the link in, add source is still greyed out
[03:41] <wsgordon_> Verifying archive integrity...tail: cannot open `+6' for reading: No such file or directory
[03:41] <wsgordon_> Error in check sums 281755320 2760297653 thats what i get back
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> sec
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, silly me
[03:41] <donavan_> any one have any experience with TV cards.... can get my card to scan the channels
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, my mistake
[03:41] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, lol it's okay, Thanks a lot for the help i really appreciate it
[03:41] <akio> I R retarded for using netstat like a pro, it doesn't meet my needs, any suggestions for what was mentioned partly above?
[03:42] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, hey are you using 8.10 (intrepid) ?
[03:42] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, yes
[03:42] <sloopy> JeffZ-, then the problem is somewhere else...
[03:42] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, the problem that i have, only occurs in intepid i believe (from research)
[03:42] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, ok add this "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/wgrant/ubuntu intrepid main"  and  "deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/wgrant/ubuntu intrepid main"
[03:43] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, both links?
[03:43] <JeffZ-> sloopy, so the opengl rendering is running correctly?
[03:43] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, add both seperately
[03:43] <Paddy_EIRE> same same
[03:43] <akio> i r id! see me now?
[03:43] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, can you please tell me the difference between deb and deb-src?
[03:44] <sloopy> JeffZ-, yes, glx is the 2D/3D rendering, saying yes then it is using hardware instead of software
[03:44] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, deb-src is source code
[03:44] <johnzorn> is there a daemon that needs to be running to be able to resolv names?
[03:44] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, just in case
[03:44] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, sometimes it may be required
[03:44] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, done  :)
[03:44] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, currently reloading
[03:44] <Paddy_EIRE> cool.. now reload/update and upgrade
[03:44] <JeffZ-> sloopy, are there any other reasons that there could be a huge difference between frame rate on windows vs. linux?
[03:44] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[03:45] <sloopy> JeffZ-, dunno, i am not familiar with the app
[03:45] <Paddy_EIRE> JeffZ-, different OS's perhaps :)
[03:45] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[03:45] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, sorry to bother you some more, but what do i do here
[03:45] <Paddy_EIRE> !lnw | JeffZ-
[03:45] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, sure thing
[03:45] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, has it notified you to tell you updates are available?
[03:46] <geltonas> what can I say I love ubuntu
[03:46] <JeffZ-> sloopy, alright, thanks for your help
[03:46] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, it notified me that an adobe flash update was availible, but i'm guessing that is not what i am looking for
[03:46] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, but i installed reguardless
[03:46] <sloopy> JeffZ-, np, i cant fix your problem but i helped get closer to the issue :')
[03:47] <wsgordon_> humm crap, how do i fix this Verifying archive integrity...tail: cannot open `+6' for reading: No such file or directory
[03:47] <wsgordon_> Error in check sums 2902971875 676349490
[03:47] <teratoma> yes , i want to let someone not on my local net use it, and password protect it.  i haven't been able to do that with squid
[03:47] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, go to 'Applications > Accessories > Terminal" and type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y"
[03:47] <Flannel> wash-hasted: check out anjuta
[03:47] <Paddy_EIRE> or copy paste
[03:47] <wsgordon_> whats this mean ?   --- Verifying archive integrity...tail: cannot open `+6' for reading: No such file or directory
[03:47] <wsgordon_> Error in check sums 2902971875 676349490
[03:48] <hendershot> wsgordon_: reset your bios on the mother board
[03:48] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, are  those 2 seperate commands or can  i  perform that in 1 line?
[03:48] <bazhang> wsgordon_, what was that error from
[03:48] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, 1 line that is what the && is for :)
[03:48] <wsgordon_> Verifying archive integrity...tail: cannot open `+6' for reading: No such file or directory
[03:48] <wsgordon_> Error in check sums 2902971875 676349490
[03:49] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, i never knew! ty =D i that will  be important to me
[03:49] <wsgordon_> bazhang trying to install the heretic 2 demo
[03:49] <wsgordon_> heretic2-install-x86.run
[03:49] <Paddy_EIRE> wsgordon, be more specific with your problem.. providing random error output is not helpful most times when we do not know the specific context in what you are trying to do/achieve
[03:49] <xun> hello, does anyone know a good app for syncing folders between 2 computers?
[03:49] <bazhang> hendershot, this has nothing to do with bios
[03:50] <waxhead__> xun: rsync
[03:50] <AnaisCareMaiz> on amsn, when someone sends a message, it doesn't flash, is there anyway to change that?
[03:50] <wsgordon_> i type sh heretic2-install-x86.run, and it returns that error
[03:50] <Org-Mode> xun rsync
[03:50] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:50] <hendershot> bazhang: im only saying that because my computer had that kinda error and i had to reset the boid
[03:50] <hendershot> bios*
[03:50] <xun> thanks waxhead__ i'll check it out now
[03:50] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, ok do "sudo apt-get install gnome-power-manager"
[03:50] <wsgordon_> hendershot its no where near a bios issue,
[03:50] <wsgordon_> its got to be file premissions
[03:50] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, Very sorry for taking up so much of your time
[03:51] <hendershot> ahh
[03:51] <hendershot> well sorry
[03:51] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, hey thats what I am here for :)
[03:51] <Org-Mode> xun: if rsync gets a bit confusing there is a GUI for it Grsync
[03:51] <wsgordon_> hendershot no problem
[03:51]  * waxhead__ has just setup rsync to backup the server... next are the clients
[03:51] <wsgordon_> should i install as sudo ?
[03:51] <xun> org-mode, thanks!
[03:51] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, gnome-power-manager is already the newest version.
[03:51] <R1_> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[03:51] <R1_>   xutils-dev
[03:51] <Org-Mode> np
[03:52] <xun> what abou Conduit? is that something similar to rsync?
[03:52] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:52] <billybigrigger> wsgordon, chmod +x <filename> will make it executable
[03:52] <billybigrigger> wsgordon, try that
[03:52] <blacknred01> does anybody knows how i could install "Evolution Jean-Yves Lefort's Mail Notification plugin"?
[03:52] <bizkwet> hi, what fps game can you suggest that doesn't require multiplayers? :D
[03:52] <donavan_> Im trying to find some help with tv cards ... I can get it to tune
[03:52] <wsgordon_> chmod +x heretic2-install-x86.run
[03:52] <wsgordon_> wsgordon@icebox:~/heretic$ sh heretic2-install-x86.run
[03:52] <wsgordon_> Verifying archive integrity...tail: cannot open `+6' for reading: No such file or directory
[03:52] <hendershot> is there a doom game for linux/
[03:53] <wsgordon_> same error
[03:53] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, do "apt-cache policy gnome-power-manager"
[03:53] <FloodBot1> wsgordon_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:53] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, done. Should i somehow check my gnome-power-manager version to see if i have the new one wgrant built?
[03:53] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, :)
[03:53] <billybigrigger> wsgordon, install as sudo?
[03:53] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, which repository  does it say it is coming from?
[03:53] <BFish> Hey all im new to ubuntu and i used wubi to install it after doing it with a disc failed. It seems that once it gets to the screen with the orange bar going back and forth it hangs there and ubuntu never loads. what am i supposed to do?
[03:53] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, and which version number is printed?
[03:53] <wsgordon_> i tried as sudo, same error
[03:53] <SudoKing> What's the difference between POSIX and UNIX? :?
[03:54] <Paddy_EIRE> SudoKing, google or wikipedia
[03:54] <Paddy_EIRE> !chat | SudoKing
[03:54] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, gnome-power-manager:
[03:54] <R1_>   Installed: 2.24.0-0ubuntu8.1
[03:54] <R1_>   Candidate: 2.24.0-0ubuntu8.1
[03:54] <R1_>   Version table:
[03:54] <R1_>  *** 2.24.0-0ubuntu8.1 0
[03:54] <FloodBot1> R1_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:54] <Paddy_EIRE> errr
[03:54] <R1_>         500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/main Packages
[03:54] <Paddy_EIRE> :(
[03:54] <Paddy_EIRE> dont ban him
[03:54] <SudoKing> oo
[03:54] <R1_> woops sorry bout that
[03:54] <Paddy_EIRE> SudoKing, that would be suited to the #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:55] <SudoKing> ah
[03:55] <wsgordon_> shoot still does not install
[03:55] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, it happens
[03:55] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, did my message go through?
[03:55] <Paddy_EIRE> !pastebin
[03:56] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, you got that pastebin link I think I missed the bulk of info
[03:56] <R1_> oh 1 sec
[03:56] <wsgordon_> dang would be great to apt-get the heretic 2 demo
[03:57] <Paddy_EIRE> wsgordon, :)
[03:57] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, http://paste.ubuntu.com/93026/
[03:57] <bizkwet> what are you guys playing in ubuntu? :D
[03:57] <Paddy_EIRE> !ot
[03:58] <bizkwet> lol.. ok. thanks :)
[03:58] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, remember when you told me to perform  sudo apt-get autoremove, something called xutils-dev was removed, can you tell me what just happened?
[03:58] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, it seems to be installed.. could you reboot and see if it made any difference
[03:58] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, it removed old dependencies
[03:59] <Paddy_EIRE> no longer needed and consuming space
[03:59] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE dependencies?
[03:59] <Paddy_EIRE> !deb
[03:59] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, sorry me newb =(
[03:59] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, yeah other libraries and such that are required to run
[03:59] <Paddy_EIRE> most are shared
[04:00] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, Thank you for everything, i'll reboot and come back and let you  know  the result
[04:00] <Paddy_EIRE> sure thing
[04:00] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, one more thing before i go
[04:00] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, should i remove the 2 repositories i added after i reboot and see it's working?
[04:00] <Paddy_EIRE> no
[04:00] <Paddy_EIRE> leave them there
[04:01] <Paddy_EIRE> essential for updates
[04:02] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, but aren't the repositories i added just personally modified versions of programs by wgrant?
[04:02] <Paddy_EIRE> yes
[04:02] <Paddy_EIRE> You use them at your own risk
[04:02] <Paddy_EIRE> ppa's that is
[04:02] <Paddy_EIRE> no big deal mostly
[04:03] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, I am confused?? Isn't it better to have updates from original ubuntu repositories rather than someone's personal custom versions?
[04:03] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, yeah.. but the one in the official repositories is not the one wgrants ppa offers
[04:04] <Paddy_EIRE> we cannot support and be liable for everyone
[04:04] <kurisutofuaa> Is there a gui for editing mount points?
[04:04] <Paddy_EIRE> impossible
[04:04] <terli> I'm here to support everyone
[04:04] <terli> with a large sack of fragmentation grenades
[04:04] <Paddy_EIRE> !info disk-manager
[04:04] <Paddy_EIRE> kurisutofuaa, ^
[04:04] <bazhang> terli, chat elsewhere please
[04:04] <terli> bazhang
[04:04] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, so my understanding is i should keep this  repository from wgrant, until the official ubuntu repositories have an official update that fixes gnome-power-manager that covers this problem
[04:05] <terli> what makes you think I can't actually diagnose and sucessfully correct issues ?
[04:05] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, well yeah.. that is if you are monitoring the situation
[04:05] <terli> I'm a ubuntu tester since hardy
[04:05] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, like subscribing to the particular bug report you are effected by
[04:05] <Paddy_EIRE> *affected
[04:06] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, i'll stop bugging you and restart now! thanks for everything
[04:06] <Paddy_EIRE> sure
[04:06] <R1_> brb
[04:06] <kurisutofuaa> Paddy_EIRE, thanks been awhile since I had to edit mount points. lol
[04:06] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[04:06] <donavan_> I'm still trying to find some help with my tv card and getting it to scan
[04:06] <Paddy_EIRE> donavan, what model/chipset is it?
[04:06] <andrux> hi to everyone
[04:07] <reid> I need help with the radeonHD driver i think..
[04:07] <att0> is it worth relaying IRC traffic through a proxy?
[04:07] <terli> att0: of course it is
[04:07] <donavan_> paddy_erie: is a wintv hvr1800
[04:07] <SEWilco2> I got a bluetooth mouse but can't get it to work on Intrepid.  It is present in Bluetooth>Preferences although I never typed a pairing code.
[04:08] <Paddy_EIRE> donavan, oh I see D:
[04:08] <att0> terli: would Tor suffice?
[04:08] <SEWilco2> And I can't find a way to delete it from Bluetooth so I can try pairing again.
[04:08] <andrux> anyone knows how to install a labtec webcam on ubuntu?
[04:08] <neeto> hey what's the GTK analogue to KDE's amarok?
[04:08] <terli> tor?
[04:08] <bazhang> !tor
[04:09] <terli> there you go.
[04:09] <terli> NO CAN DO MATE.
[04:09] <Paddy_EIRE> donavan, http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=53612925
[04:09] <bazhang> terli, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:09] <krishmish> !vnc
[04:09] <krishmish> !freenx
[04:09] <neeto> hey what's the GTK analogue to KDE's amarok?
[04:09] <terli> banshee.
[04:09] <bazhang> !players
[04:10] <donavan_> paddy_eire: thanks I will check it out
[04:10] <Paddy_EIRE> neeto, banshee/exaile/listen many other
[04:10] <Paddy_EIRE> *others
[04:10] <neeto> Paddy_EIRE: gotcha thanks.
[04:11] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, I'm back and sad to say it did not fix my problems........... So from here it is best if i remove the 2 repositories I've added and continue searching for  another solution?
[04:11] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, I think that package did not install
[04:11] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, I believe you may have to remove your existing gnome-power-manager
[04:12] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, would that be in add/remove ?
[04:12] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, or would i have to do it through terminal?
[04:12] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, go to 'System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[04:12] <Paddy_EIRE> search for gnome power manager
[04:13] <R1_> found
[04:13] <R1_> untick and apply?
[04:13] <Paddy_EIRE> how many?
[04:13] <masroorhussain> I need help for my sound while watching DVD
[04:14] <masroorhussain> the sound is very low
[04:14] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, close synaptic and open a terminal
[04:14] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE i see 1 gnome-power-manager
[04:14] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, cleaner to just purge it
[04:14] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, yeah thats okl
[04:14] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, sudo apt-get purge gnome-power-manager
[04:15] <R1_> ok
[04:15] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, I find this method cleaner.. but you can use synaptic if you want
[04:16] <R1_> It is currently being purged by t erminal
[04:16] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[04:16] <Paddy_EIRE> cool
[04:16] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE it is complete =D
[04:16] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, when done reboot and then "sudo apt-get install gnome-power-manager"
[04:16] <Paddy_EIRE> I would think
[04:17] <Paddy_EIRE> so it pulls down the ppa version
[04:17] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, i'll perform that after i reboot, then i'll reboot again and see if it works, then i'llcome back with results
[04:17] <Paddy_EIRE> cool
[04:17] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, ty again
[04:17] <Paddy_EIRE> good luck
[04:17] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[04:18] <grendal_prime> ok, i need to use recordmydesktop for a project.  I need to reroute sound from my mp3 app and record it along with the desktop( its a presentation thing.)  But, im really having a hard time understanding how this works.
[04:19] <gaintsura> yar why is firefox taking up almost 800mb of virtual mem and almost 500 of physical??
[04:19] <Delvien> grendal_prime: you wont want to have recordmydesktop record the sound, you will want to add it to the video later
[04:19] <terli> gaintsura : what version is it
[04:20] <gaintsura> terli: full version of just the 3 bit?
[04:20] <terli> um...
[04:20] <grendal_prime> Delvien: cool and umm how would i go about that?
[04:20] <terli> how about the full version.
[04:20] <terli> lets hear it in a pm.
[04:20] <gaintsura> 3.0.5
[04:20] <gaintsura> oh
[04:20] <gaintsura> fail
[04:21] <Delvien> grendal_prime:  any video editor, im not an expert but i know you will want to add it later, it will have better sound quality
[04:23] <Paddy_EIRE> If R1_ comes back looking for me tell her/him that I will be right back.. I am just off for a smoke :)
[04:24] <Org-Mode> ok
[04:24] <Paddy_EIRE> ty
[04:27] <anfangs> hi all
[04:27] <wartalker> i want to install mit-scheme, but there is no source, help me!!!
[04:28] <anfangs> I've seen a Dr. Scheme package, is that what u need?
[04:29] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, i hope you're still there
[04:29] <Org-Mode> hes afk real fast R1
[04:30] <R1_> Org-Mode, ty
[04:30] <Org-Mode> np
[04:30] <wartalker> anfangs: i will see it, thanks
[04:31] <porter1> Anyone know if there is a Qt Eclipse integration package in the repos?
[04:31] <Aframester> did everyone have a good christmas
[04:31] <Delvien> Yep
[04:31] <Delvien> You?
[04:31] <xtknight> porter1, not that i know of, although there is QDevelop which is a great IDE for Qt4
[04:32] <porter1> Yeah, I just thought it might be nice to have it all in eclipse to save the hassles. Oh well. I'll try both options I guess.
[04:32] <T1> how do i open a port for torrent downloading, i get NAT error
[04:33] <Aframester> good
[04:33] <Lou_> There is a bad bug in libc-2.8.90.so which makes programs which use it unable to access my home directory.  Here is an example listing from my system log: "Dec 26 12:21:17 lat-ws kernel: [142971.114145] gimp-2.6[14874]: segfault at 78 ip b7589fbe sp b40fef20 error 4 in libc-2.8.90.so[b7517000+158000]".  In this case gimp died trying to save a file to the home directory.
[04:34] <Lou_> will someone please report this bug?
[04:34] <bazhang> !bugs
[04:37] <narzy> what command can I use to see all the hard drive attached to my system and their filesystem?
[04:38] <hansel> mount
[04:38] <hansel> sudo lshw -C storage
[04:38] <mwhit74> !defrag
[04:38] <narzy> what is lshw?
[04:38] <Sefyroth> Hello, I have just set up a dual monitor rig with Xubuntu and I was wondering if it's possible to have a panel bar with tasks of each monitor on both.
[04:39] <Sefyroth> I, right now, see all tasks on the one panel.
[04:39] <LanoxxthShaddow> hi there, i just tried to to some updates but i still have 10 packages that are beeing held back by aptitude, how to i get aptitude to install them?
[04:40] <tonyyarusso> Has anyone synced a mobile phone's address book and calendar to Evolution on Ubuntu over bluetooth?  I'm trying to figure out what is needed in a phone to do so.  Is it just the Bluetooth Object Push Profile for VCard and VCalendar, or something separate?
[04:40] <terli> lanoxxthShaddow, try using -f
[04:40] <narzy> it doesn't show hard drive size...
[04:40] <mwhit74> anyone know how to defrag an external hd, i was on here earlier and the ubuntu bot had something for me but i can't remember the key word help please
[04:41] <sfer2> !defrag | mwhit74
[04:41] <davenull> narzy: df
[04:41] <genii> narzy: lshw is "list hardware". If you want hard drive sizes, etc use instead something like:   sudo fdisk -l
[04:41] <mwhit74> sfer2: i already tried that but thats not what i was looking for
[04:42] <genii> narzy: This will also show you what filesystems
[04:42] <terli> mwhit74 is this an external ntfs
[04:42] <narzy> thanks
[04:42] <mwhit74> terli: yes the code starts our "sudo mount -o loop"... i can't remember the rest
[04:42] <wartalker> i run apt-get, You will have to enable the component called 'universe', why?
[04:43] <LanoxxthShaddow> sudo apt-get -f install, i tried this, and i got: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 10 not upgraded.
[04:43] <cn28h> Trying to boot 8.10 I get lots of errors from zlib and squashfs.. the cdrom verification fails but taking the md5 of the cd gives correct results.  I read similar things from other users that were fixed by passing ide=nodma or acpi=off, but these didn't do it for me.. any ideas?
[04:43] <narzy> how do i format /dev/sda as ext 3?
[04:44] <terli> mwhit74, linux has no defragmentation problems. all native partitions to our machine are fragmentation-proof. One recommendation I have is to copy all the files off of the drive then re-copy them onto it.
[04:44] <cn28h> narzy, usually you don't directly format a device like that.. perhaps you want to format a partition on it?
[04:44] <genii> narzy: sda is the entire drive without partitions. You want like sda1 or sda2 or so on
[04:44] <narzy> I want the entire disk to be one partition
[04:44] <genii> narzy: You need to make one then
[04:44] <cn28h> then use cfdisk to do that and then format /dev/sda1
[04:44] <narzy> I'm going to put /home on it.
[04:45] <terli> lannoxxthShaddow, apt-get is not aptitude
[04:45] <justizin> howdy, i'm running intrepid on an acer aspire netbook which gets almost 4.5 hr of battery life, and i set it to suspend, rather than power off, on low battery, but it doesn't work.  can i set it somehow to trigger this at a lower battery pct, or is there a possibility my setting didn't apply?
[04:45] <terli> try sudo aptitude dist-upgrade -f
[04:45] <mwhit74> terli: its not a linux partition. its an external drive, formatted for fat32. i had something on it earlier but i can't find/remember
[04:46] <narzy> it says "Fatal error Cannot open disk..."
[04:46] <terli> mwhit74, ntfs and fat16/32 fragmentation issues are NOT supported by linux.
[04:47] <mwhit74> terli: not good cause i can't get the hd to mount in windows to defrag it
[04:48] <mwhit74> terli: so what do you think the documentation i found earlier was
[04:48] <moof_> i have installed ubuntu with wubi and i want to use all of the HD with ubuntu. what do i do?
[04:48] <Grassputin> screw nm-applet and it's retardedness with static IPs!
[04:48] <bazhang> moof_, you want to remove windows?
[04:49] <Org-Mode> moof_: just pop in a ubuntu Live CD reboot computer and install it from that
[04:49] <moof_> yep.
[04:49] <moof_> unfortunately that's not an option, sorry.
[04:49] <bazhang> moof_,  use entire disk from live cd install
[04:49] <moof_> no cd drive, no flash drives
[04:49] <Org-Mode> moof_: ouch
[04:49] <bazhang> moof_, is this a netbook?
[04:49] <moof_> it's an eeepc
[04:50] <Brack10> hello
[04:50] <revilodraw> i used be able to right click and get cool options like 'root nautilus here', what do i need to install to get them back?
[04:50] <terli> revilodraw, those are metapackages
[04:51] <streenz> moof_, in ubuntu you have the option to create a USB thumb drive that is bootable, and boot off of that instead of using a LiveCD
[04:51] <terli> let me get you a command
[04:51] <Brack10> according to system monitor, I'm using up 461 MB of ram but in the processes list, the most usage shown is 50MB.  I have all processes selected, is there something I'm missing?>
[04:51] <streenz> thats what I did with my Acer Aspire One and it was easy as pie
[04:51] <moof_> no usb drive.
[04:52] <moof_> i was told that i could just delete the windows partition and use it's space for storage
[04:52] <bazhang> moof_, you have a usb port though correct?
[04:52] <moof_> correct.
[04:52] <revilodraw> terli; ok, so what do i do?
[04:52] <bazhang> you can use a usb flash key moof_
[04:52] <terli> revioldraw just search for nautilus-named packages in synaptic
[04:52] <moof_> i don't own one
[04:52] <terli> all the scripts will show up
[04:52] <billybigrigger> does ubuntu have problems with certain wireless encrpytions? what should i be using wep wpa or wpa2?
[04:52] <Org-Mode> flash keys are cheap these days
[04:53] <moof_> i'm not really in the proper geographic location to get one
[04:53] <moof_> if it was an option i would've done that already
[04:53] <moof_> haha
[04:53] <joljam> i have a problem detecting usb in vmware installed in intrepid
[04:53] <joljam> can anyone help me with it
[04:53] <narzy> how do I delete and recreate the partion on /dev/sda?
[04:53] <jjt009> does anyone here know about ldd?
[04:54] <jjt009> how to interpret the output of ldd?
[04:54] <joljam> how to detect usb in vmware
[04:54] <Org-Mode> join #vmware joljam
[04:56] <gaintsura> joljam: as for the last one, if its like virtualbox, yes, other than that, no
[04:56] <streenz> moof_, so maybe run "sudo gparted" in terminal, unmount the windows partition, and then create a new one?
[04:57] <streenz> er delete it and create a new one
[04:57] <moof_> which one's the windows partition?
[04:57] <terli> moof,
[04:57] <terli> running mount will show all paritions mounted
[04:57] <terli> including the windows one if it happens to be detected
[04:58] <T1> whats a command to open a port for azureus
[04:58] <streenz> moof_, the one that is NTFS or FAT and looks the same size of your windows partition should be it :-P
[04:59] <moof_> let me explain to you what's confusing to me
[04:59] <moof_> in gparted i have 2 partitions
[05:00] <moof_>  /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
[05:00] <moof_> both are ntfs filesystems
[05:00] <moof_> sda is 3.76 GiB, sdb is 15.03 GiB
[05:01] <moof_> is it safe to assume that sdb is windows?
[05:01] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, You there?
[05:01] <genii> moof_: Those are two separate disk drives
[05:01] <moof_> i see.
[05:01] <moof_> well
[05:01] <Org-Mode> O.o Paddy_EIRE long smoke break :P but i told him you were afk
[05:01] <moof_> then i can't find the windows partition
[05:01] <Paddy_EIRE> Org-Mode, yeah I had an extended one
[05:01] <Org-Mode> lol
[05:02] <Paddy_EIRE> I am off to bed
[05:02] <moof_> that can't be right, there's no way my eeepc has 2 disk drives.
[05:02] <Paddy_EIRE> later ppl
[05:02] <Org-Mode> cya Paddy_EIRE
[05:03] <tonyyarusso> Has anyone synced a mobile phone's address book and calendar to Evolution on Ubuntu over bluetooth?  I'm trying to figure out what is needed in a phone to do so.  Is it just the Bluetooth Object Push Profile for VCard and VCalendar, or something separate?
[05:03] <genii> moof_: external usb storage counts also as a disk drive
[05:03] <moof_> i have no external usb storage device
[05:03] <moof_> i have an ethernet cable that goes to my router
[05:03] <moof_> and that's it
[05:04] <genii> moof_: Maybe ask them in #eeepc   whats up with it. Could be there is some internal disk-on-chip or something
[05:04] <moof_> ok, thanks.
[05:05] <Grassputin> moof_: try #ubuntu-eeepc as well
[05:06] <justizin> speaking of netbook, anyone know about using sd card slot on acer aspire one?
[05:06] <Grassputin> card slots are bad juju man.... they're just evil
[05:06] <cryz> hi. anyone can tell me if there is a core install available for ubuntu?
[05:07] <blacknred01> does anybody knows how to install "Evolution Jean-Yves Lefort's Mail Notification plugin"?
[05:07] <genii> cryz: ubuntu-minimal
[05:07] <cryz> genii: thx
[05:07] <streenz> justizin, tbh I have one and ive never used the SD slot lol
[05:07] <genii> cryz: np
[05:08] <streenz> justizin, theres something about the SD slots here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne110L
[05:08] <Flannel> cryz: Check out the alternate CD, and just do the text-mode install.  It'll give you ubuntu-standard and ubuntu-minimal (you really do want -standard, minimal isn't very functional)
[05:08] <justizin> yah i'm not on 110L, have seen the normal AspireOne page, just no luck following instructions :/
[05:08] <justizin> 110L I think is the EU model with 3G.
[05:09] <justizin> I paid $50-100 more and got no 3G :-P
[05:09] <justizin> also paid $50 more on Amazon than fricking radio shack charge for one with slightly smaller HD
[05:09] <justizin> i mean of all the places, who'd have known radio shack would have this thing i couldn't find at circuit city or anywhere..
[05:10] <justizin> told all my friends in SF to go grab one at radio shack for 350 120G drive same battery and specs as mine, 1.6G atom, 1.0G RAM, WinXP included (no linux with larger battery)
[05:10] <shiMMer> what is best application to edit mp3 file??i need make .wav for my ringtones..
[05:10] <streenz> my 1.5gb ram, 160gb hdd one I got at a computer shop for the equivalent of $280 USD ($350canadian) ... 3 cel battery, Linux
[05:10] <moDumass> hey all, im trying to create a boot usb but i cant seem to format my thumbdrive
[05:11] <moDumass> any ideas?
[05:11] <justizin> shiMMer: not sure about ringtones, look at audacity for audio editing on free desktop
[05:11] <matthew_> I'm trying to install video drivers and have followed several sets up directions, anyone care to help me?
[05:11] <justizin> moDumass: what've you tried?
[05:11] <cryz> maybe someone can confirm this with me... i installed the latest version 8.10, it comes with a bunch of apps that I won't be using, for example, rhythmbox. now let's say i am removing it with aptitude, apt-get, or synaptic. it removes only the rhythmbox package, but none of it's dependencies. which makes sense because the install of rhythmbox took place during the main install so it's didn't record it as being a manual install with automatic inst
[05:12] <terli> rythmbox has no dependencies
[05:12] <moDumass> justizin, im trying unetbootin, and i can select the usb drive, but it says 900mb used, but also empty so im guessing its possibly full of corrupted data or is unformatted
[05:12] <cryz> terli; actually it does.
[05:12] <moDumass> JustiziN i would have thaught there would be a "format" option, but i cant find it
[05:13] <streenz> moDumass, I format mine using gparted "sudo gparted" in terminal ... find it in the dropdown list, Unmount, then Format To... and choose a filesystem
[05:13] <matthew_> Anyone care to help me install my video drivers? The install script gives me an error that it can't compile the AGPGART module or the kernel
[05:13] <cryz> terli; run aptitude, search for the package, check the infos. it depends on 73 libs
[05:14] <moDumass> streenz, thanks
[05:14] <justizin> moDumass: you need to create vfat partition and mount it before using unetbootin
[05:14] <ziroday> cryz: those dependencies are needed by other gnome apps, not just rhythmbox.
[05:14] <ccnix_> ......
[05:14] <ziroday> ccnix_: do you have a question we can help you with?
[05:14] <justizin> also consider installing liveusb, google 'ubuntu liveusb' is possible to get it installed from older archives and works fine on intrepid.
[05:14] <justizin> just not in intrepid archives for some sad, sad, unchristmaslike reason. :/
[05:15] <matthew_> Ok, can anyone tell me another room where I can go to get help with installing video drivers?
[05:15]  * justizin frowns at canonical discarding xen and liveusb :/
[05:15] <moDumass> justizin, yeh im trying to install eeeubuntu
[05:15] <ccnix_> no ,thank you
[05:15] <justizin> matthew_: can try #linux, sorry i can't help, not much for linux and video drivers in recent times. :/
[05:15] <shiMMer> can any1 help me with kismet??i cant run it.appear some error.i need to put source in kismet.conf i think.i dun know what source im using..please help
[05:16] <moDumass> streens, the usb drive isnt on gparted as an option
[05:16] <matthew_> thanks justizin
[05:16] <cryz> ziroday; but for example. totem, it depends on totem-gstreamer & totem-plugins. only totem should depend on those. if i remove totem, it won't remove the dependencies
[05:16] <justizin> moDumass: okay, whatever you are trying to do with unetbootin, you need to use gparted or something to create a fat16/fat32 (pref fat32, usually called 'vfat') partition, then mount it, and point unetbootin at it.
[05:16] <streenz> moDumass, are you sure? if its showing up elsewhere then it should be showing up in gparted...
[05:16] <ziroday> cryz: okay, you can file a bug about it :)
[05:17] <justizin> once you've done that, I personally grant you permission to use the nick "lessDumass" ;)
[05:17] <jjt009> does anyone know about ldd?
[05:17] <moDumass> streens, yeh its strantge, it mounts onto my desktop, as the same size, i just cant select it, but its not showing in gparted
[05:17] <nbeebo> why does this come? http://paste.ubuntu.com/92876/plain/
[05:17] <justizin> ldd?
[05:17] <jjt009> the command ldd?
[05:18] <jjt009> dependencies
[05:18] <justizin> nbeebo: can you upgrade that app or any dependant libraries? try apt-get install --reinstall amaya or somesuch
[05:18] <Decepticon> what can i do to prevent hostile takeover of my server if i am offering a priviledged account to someone with sudo access
[05:18] <nbeebo> justizin hmmmm... ok ill try
[05:18] <moDumass> streenz, sorry my bad, didnt look deep enough, i see there are other options now, il be back
[05:18] <justizin> Decepticon: you can limit sudo access to particlar commands, and you can use group access to delegate shared service-specific access.
[05:19] <icepenguin> Decepticon: if you're concerned about someone with sudo access taking over your server, you probably shouldn't give that person sudo access.
[05:19] <Decepticon> how can i limit sudo access
[05:19] <justizin> if you grant full sudo, i mean, there's not much can be done.  modern ubuntu has no root access, only sudo, so that's the greatest access there can be without haxoring.
[05:19] <ziroday> can anyone recommend a GTK photo managing app?
[05:19] <justizin> Decepticon: read sudo manpage / website / etc..
[05:19] <justizin> it's a bit much for me to editorialize over irc
[05:20] <icepenguin> ziroday: I know picasa is available in a linux version, I'm unsure if its GTK however.
[05:20] <justizin> ziroday: gnome has something, gphotosomethign or other
[05:20] <justizin> F-Spot!
[05:20] <justizin> pops up when i plug my iPhone in
[05:20] <icepenguin> iphone... bah.  my stupid blackberry still won't work properly in linux.
[05:20] <streenz> gThumb 2.10.10 An image viewer and browser for GNOME.
[05:20] <justizin> well, i mean, you don't need a driver to charge battery over usb ;d
[05:20] <cryz> ziroday; but i don't think it's a bug. im starting to believe that's simply how it works. the dependency removal only takes place on packages that were installed manually, manually meaning an installation requested by the user. if you look in aptitude, all the dependencies are flagged as automatic, so thats why when you remove the package the dependencies are removed as well. but in the case of the packages installed by the ubuntu installation, t
[05:20] <ziroday> justizin: gphoto2?
[05:21] <justizin> but F-Spot / GNOME seem to recognize the iPhone as a camera and ask for importing..
[05:21] <icepenguin> justizin: with the blackberry you do.  so lame :(
[05:21] <nbeebo> justizin well im doing fresh install now anyways so bye and thanks
[05:21] <justizin> ziroday: maybe, f-spot sounds more famil, but maybe i have crossed nerves
[05:21] <justizin> icepenguin: really? no charging w/o driver?
[05:21] <terli> it's gtk.
[05:21] <ziroday> cryz: I can't really be sure of it myself, filing a bug would be the best place for it
[05:21] <justizin> i mean, iphone charges over usb to a dumb AC adapter.  we have one up on the bed.
[05:21] <ziroday> justizin: f-spot is a mono app and I'm not fond of those
[05:21] <justizin> so i plug it into my netbook as well, charges fine, just no itunes love ;d
[05:21] <icepenguin> justizin: yep, I get a nice error stating that the connection is 'insufficient for charging' if there's no driver installed, regardless of OS.
[05:21] <terli> f-spot is MONO?
[05:21] <justizin> ziroday: bigot! :-P
[05:22] <cryz> ziroday; thanks anyway :)
[05:22] <terli> then why doesn't it work on iwndows
[05:22] <ziroday> terli: correct
[05:22] <justizin> mono == CLR == ISO
[05:22] <matthew_> justizin, everyone in #linux is talking about crap, any other suggestions?
[05:22] <terli> *cries*
[05:22] <slavsun> terli> yes
[05:22] <justizin> matthew_: i am always happy to talk about non-crap.
[05:22] <justizin> what am i suggesting on?
[05:22] <justizin> me is on an 8.9" screen forgive that you may scroll past fast
[05:22] <terli> everything on linux, gtk and gnome included, should either be written in perl or mono.
[05:22] <icepenguin> I got it to charge with Barry, but if I try and mount my SD card, infinite reboot loop on the phone.  Its so awesome :D
[05:22] <icepenguin> terli: Um ew.  I'll stick to ruby, thanks.
[05:22] <justizin> terli: perl or mono? heh..
[05:23] <matthew_> justizin: somewhere to find help on getting my video drivers working
[05:23] <icepenguin> or pascal :P
[05:23] <terli> and the kernel should be all C converted to assembly
[05:23] <icepenguin> o_O
[05:23] <moDumass> justizin and streenz i found it in gparted, but when i select unmount it is still "scanning all devices" is this normal?
[05:23] <justizin> matthew_: i suck at using things that ubuntu doesn't support by default.  sorry.  i'm trying to get back to my 14-year old roots as i approach 30, but i've become a mac weenie in recent years. :/
[05:23] <yan_> hi I am a new
[05:23] <justizin> moDumass: things never stopping is never normal.
[05:23] <justizin> you can always reboot
[05:23] <justizin> see if gparted shows your changes
[05:23] <justizin> who knows
[05:24] <c1rcuit> what would be the path to a file on my desktop?
[05:24] <c1rcuit> sorry noob
[05:24] <justizin> worst that happens is your computer dies, hope you have a rescue cd or usb ;d
[05:24] <ziroday> c1rcuit: /home/<username>/Desktop/<filename>
[05:24] <icepenguin> Anyhow, I do have a question - anyone familiar with Atheros wifi connections just randomly dropping every few minutes for no really good discernable reason?
[05:24] <c1rcuit> ok danks
[05:24] <ziroday> icepenguin: what card?
[05:24] <terli> my wireless drops once every two hours
[05:24] <terli> integrated intel chip
[05:24] <justizin> icepenguin: i have atheros on my netbook, what driver are you using? an dyah, as ziroday ask, what chip?
[05:24] <icepenguin> ziroday: er... 2 seconds, gotta see what my macbook has got specifically
[05:24] <terli> perfectly normal behavior
[05:24] <yan_> why i am quit,
[05:24] <grendal_prime> ya this is not as easy as it sounds..
[05:24] <matthew_> justizin: lol, I've had to install 1 driver on MAC and every other driver install I've done has been on Windows, so trust me, I'm more lost than you, I'll try to forums, thanks for trying
[05:25] <razaccour> can i install Ubuntu on my Palm Treo 650?
[05:25] <icepenguin> AR5418 802.11abgn Wireless
[05:25] <ziroday> razaccour: not easily
[05:25] <grendal_prime> just ajoining like an mp3 onto an existing ...ogg video?
[05:25] <justizin> icepenguin: what kind of machine?
[05:25] <razaccour> how hard is it?
[05:25] <icepenguin> justizin: macbook pro (santa rosa chipset).
[05:25] <justizin> have you searched google 'ubuntu' plus motherboard, chipset model ?
[05:26] <justizin> ah macbook pro.. i am not sure i have wifi working on my MBP, as i don't use it primary.
[05:26] <razaccour> ziroday, how hard is it?
[05:26] <icepenguin> yeah, I've done all the standard set up stuff, and it works... then just randomly dumps connection every 10 mins. -ish
[05:26] <ziroday> razaccour: actually I think it is impossible. Sorry
[05:26] <shatly> hi, any one here dealt with the scndisk cruzer u3 software
[05:26] <justizin> i think i have a linux partition i typically use wired which i can boot to try for you
[05:26] <razaccour> oh ok thanks
[05:26] <ziroday> shatly: U3 will not work in linux
[05:26] <shatly> last time i removed it by formating a hiden partition, but i can not find it this time
[05:26] <razaccour> well, palm is pretty good anyhow
[05:26] <justizin> might be a pain in the butt, though
[05:26] <shatly> i want to kill it
[05:26] <IdleOne> !info wifi-radar
[05:26] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, I are you back yet?
[05:26] <shatly> ziroday: i want to kill it not keep it
[05:26] <justizin> have trouble getting the stubborn ass mac to eject optical disc :/
[05:27] <ley> hello
[05:27] <icepenguin> justizin: *nod* Wired works perfectly for me, but for instance, if I boot the livecd, wifi dies after about 10 mins.. I tried disabling the bgscan but to no avail.  I've also compiled the newest madwifi, etc, tried changing networkmanager for wicd, etc.
[05:27] <ziroday> shatly: you can just reformat the drive and it will kill it
[05:27] <ley> Is anyone here?
[05:27] <ziroday> ley: only around 1400 people
[05:27] <ley> ah.ha
[05:27] <shatly> no, it is some hidden partiton but sudo fdisk -l only list one
[05:27] <moDumass> streenz, changed thumb drives and things are looking good
[05:27] <ley> Is xbutu more faster than ubuntu?
[05:27] <shatly> eath time it is in a windows computer it is re installed
[05:27] <ziroday> shatly: does that partition take all the space?
[05:28] <ziroday> ley: yes
[05:28] <shatly> ziroday: a bit, just want to keep it from lanching automaticaly on windows computers
[05:28] <ziroday> shatly: then if you format that partition it will remove U3
[05:28] <icepenguin> justizin: Just umount it from commandline, it ought to pop out... do you have pommed installed?
[05:28] <streenz> moDumass, good good... once the USB thumbdrive is formatted... go under System - Administration - Make a USB Startup Disc...... then point it at your ubuntu .iso
[05:28] <ley> I want play some windows games,how can I run them? wine is too slow to run 3D games...
[05:29] <ziroday> shatly: however for windows and U3 you will need to ask in ##windows
[05:29] <icepenguin> ley: eh? I run Oblivion, World of Warcraft, etc, in Wine.
[05:29] <shatly> ziroday: no, i formated it to a linux then to fat 32, and the put back into a windows computer, after 30 seconds it restores itself
[05:29] <moDumass> streenz, already ahead of you
[05:29] <ziroday> ley: besides wine there is cedega a closed source, propriatery version and that is it
[05:29] <moDumass> streenz, thanks though, i think it was a bung thumb, other than that its cruising along nicely
[05:29] <ziroday> shatly: you will have to ask in ##windows regarding U3 issues
[05:29] <icepenguin> ley: if you go to the appdb on winehq.org it ought to have instructions on how to get games working, provided they are able to be run. (not all games will work)
[05:29] <streenz> moDumass, k cool, thats exactly what I did to install ubuntu on my Acer Aspire One netbook and its workin great
[05:30] <ley> I run Counter-Striker Source slowly in wine...
[05:30] <revilodraw> i have some files in my trash can which wont delete, they have a padlock symbol on them, any ideas?
[05:30] <ziroday> ley: did you try looking at the fixes/speed increases specified in the appdb?
[05:30] <icepenguin> ley: that may be a 3d driver or system issue then, cause all the source engine stuff tends to work *very* well.  What have you got for a video card and such?
[05:30] <ziroday> revilodraw: open up nautilus as root and then remove them
[05:31] <moDumass> streenz, awesome, they had a sale on eepcs, 300 for a 900 with a gig of ram and 12gig hdd (windows), or 450 for linux with 512 megs and 6gig hdd - so im replacing windows
[05:31] <ley> I use "free" driver. My video card is Nvidia geforce 7300 Go
[05:31] <revilodraw> ziroday: ok, alt f2, gksudo nautilus, password, then how do i open the trash as root?
[05:31] <ziroday> !trash | revilodraw
[05:31] <icepenguin> ley: ahh, you need to use Nvidia's binary driver for 3d gaming.
[05:32] <icepenguin> ley: you can install it in the restricted drivers section under the admin menu as I recall.
[05:32] <revilodraw> ubottu:  thanks (i know you are a bot)
[05:32] <streenz> better than the rest of us who arent bots but still might not be intelligent
[05:33] <terli> I'm intelligent, whatcha saying willis, I'm INTELLEGENT!
[05:33] <ley> Really? Someone told me the driver in the source is excelent
[05:33] <icepenguin> ley: if you want 3D gaming on an nvidia card in linux, you need to use nvidia's driver.
[05:33] <ley> thanks
[05:33] <icepenguin> np.
[05:33] <terli> ley, with a nvidia card and wine, you can have it all :-D
[05:34] <jay2> Merry Christmas everyone :))
[05:34] <terli> use the proprietary drivers and follow a wine tweaking guide
[05:34] <terli> jay2, it happens to be 11:34.
[05:34] <terli> you have precisely 26 minutes left to wish us this merry christmas.
[05:34] <icepenguin> Thu Dec 25 23:34:38 CST 2008
[05:34] <jay2> close enoff I was over at my familys house so I am sorry if the timeing is off :((
[05:34] <Pilot_51> hi, does anyone know how to force an application to use X11 for video?
[05:34] <ley> By the way.
[05:35] <ley> My browser usually draw a wrong border.
[05:35] <jay2> 21:32:50 pm
[05:35] <ley> My system is Ubuntu 8.04
[05:35] <piojunbabia> hello?
[05:35] <jay2> 25/01/2008
[05:35] <piojunbabia> this is my first time to use ubuntu...
[05:35] <terli> ley, I recommend upgrading to 10.04 LTS promptly
[05:36] <piojunbabia> i need help
[05:36] <ley> Can XChat send a picture?
[05:36] <Pilot_51> i'm especially trying to get skype webcam to work without crashing
[05:36] <revilodraw> ziroday' thansk
[05:36] <icepenguin> Pilot_51: I'd check to see if the given app you're using supports that video output method, i don't think you can just force a given app to use a specific method (SDL, x11, etc, blah), I do believe it has to be build with support for them.
[05:36] <terli> !xchat
[05:37] <Pilot_51> i don't see it available in skype
[05:37] <tavo> Hi Merry Christmas :D
[05:37] <tavo> !
[05:37] <piojunbabia> hey do you know where to get driver for my sound card?
[05:37] <ley> I have requested a CD.
[05:37] <piojunbabia> please?
[05:37] <icepenguin> Pilot_51: its possible it isnt, but if you're using a webcam, that's not a video output issue (unless its viewing someone elses?)
[05:37] <piojunbabia> Merry Christmas to all
[05:37] <Pilot_51> i found out that setting video to X11 in VLC gets rid of corruption such as vertical lines and that incoming webcam video in skype had the same vertical lines
[05:38] <tavo> I'd like knowing how could I speed up nautilus?
[05:38] <piojunbabia> am i invisible here?
[05:38] <icepenguin> Pilot_51: ahh its incoming.  Do you have desktop effects turned on by chance?
[05:38] <ley> Do you know how to disable nvidia power mizer in fedora?
[05:38] <Pilot_51> nope
[05:38] <jay2> hmmm ubuntu does anyone know the next name for the next version?
[05:38] <icepenguin> Pilot_51: hmm.
[05:38] <terli> piojunbabia: I heartily recommend running   sudo apt-get update universe && clear && echo done
[05:38] <icepenguin> ley: I'd ask that in #fedora
[05:38] <Pilot_51> the drivers have very weak support for my video hardware
[05:39] <ley> thanks. bye
[05:39] <terli> !drivers
[05:39] <Pilot_51> it's an old Gateway Solo 5300 laptop
[05:40] <jay2> hmmm love ubuntu but I think that I am going to see if I can get a work around when installing it instead of always hitting the tab button
[05:40] <jay2> during install
[05:40] <terli> !lulz
[05:40] <icepenguin> Pilot_51: this looks like it *might* be related to your issue? http://www.techienuggets.com/Comments?tx=55955
[05:40] <piojunbabia> !drivers
[05:40] <jay2> ubottu that is a cute name :))
[05:41] <piojunbabia> !help
[05:41] <terli> !intel
[05:41] <piojunbabia> !sound
[05:41] <Pilot_51> doesn't look like the same symptoms but i'll look into that
[05:41] <icepenguin> Pilot_51: yeah, sorry I can't be more help, really, just google around I supose, or post on the forums (or search the forums).
[05:44] <TUenUT> подскажите пожалуйста, у меня ноутбук Maxmedia, на нем есть вай-фай. но нажатием функци клавиши на клавиатуре он не запускается. что нужно что бы запустить вай-фай? на ноуте убунта 8.04
[05:44] <terli> RUSSIANS
[05:44] <Mike_92> I just upgraded to Intriped and my audio doesn't work, can someone help me?
[05:44] <terli> EVERYONE RUN AWAY
[05:44] <Kalidarn> where do i ask about ubuntu packaging questions
[05:44] <Flannel> !ru | TUenUT
[05:44] <Flannel> terli: please don't do that
[05:44] <Kalidarn> (im creating packages)
[05:44] <TUenUT> sorry
[05:44] <terli> sorry, I just got over the cold war last week.
[05:44] <terli> *cough cough sneeze*
[05:44] <icepenguin> !audio | Mike_92
[05:45] <Kalidarn> just wondering if ubuntu has a special channel for debian packing related stuff
[05:45] <terli> of course we do kalidarn
[05:45] <Kalidarn> yar what is it ;)
[05:45] <terli> we own #debian for that
[05:45] <Kalidarn> lol
[05:45] <Kalidarn> not funny ;)
[05:45] <terli> all our debianites live there
[05:46] <terli> poor isolationalists
[05:46] <Flannel> terli: Please stop.  This is a support channel. If you want to joke around or chat, we have #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[05:46] <Flannel> Kalidarn: #ubuntu-motu is a good place for packaging questions
[05:46] <Kalidarn> thx
[05:47] <gbear14275> would anyone be willing to look at a script and give me some advice on why it might not be working as it should?
[05:47] <terli> of course gbear
[05:47] <terli> gimme a link to the pastebin
[05:47] <gbear14275> terli: thanks... will do
[05:47] <nik_federmann> I'm a new ubuntu user, basically, it rocks
[05:48] <nik_federmann> <waves goodbye to bill gates>
[05:48] <gbear14275> terli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/93051/
[05:48] <davenull> nik_federmann: Glad you like it.
[05:48] <terli> nik_federmann : thank you for trusting us with your time. Please, don't hesitate to contact us at any time.
[05:48] <terryx> is there anyone who know about wubi?
[05:48] <Flannel> !anyone | terryx
[05:49] <nik_federmann> dig that autoanswer system ;)
[05:49] <terli> gbear14275 : the script you have shown me appears to simply execute the xfce4-terminal command, and then once it finishes execute the ones below it.
[05:49] <terryx> i want to increase the size of file system in ubuntu(wubi)?
[05:49] <terli> the problem is probably when the terminal command never finishes.
[05:50] <gbear14275> terli: yes, I organized it line by line for easier understanding... i'm trying to setup a desktop terminal but for some reason when trying to run that script it isn't executing right
[05:50] <icepenguin> there is a space between #! /bin/bash
[05:50] <icepenguin> needs to be #!/bin/bash, does it not?
[05:50] <Flannel> terryx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=545519
[05:50] <gbear14275> does the name have anything to do with it?  I named it desktopterminal.sh
[05:51] <terli> gbear14275
[05:51] <terli> try running the exact same code in a terminal
[05:51] <terli> see what happens will ya?
[05:51] <icepenguin> gbear14275: remove the space between #1! and /bin/bash and see if it runs.  also, you may have to chmod +x the desktopterminal.sh
[05:51] <gbear14275> terli: I apologize ahead of time... this is my first script attempt
[05:51] <terli> its ok
[05:51] <icepenguin> unless of course I am way off here on the space
[05:51] <terli> I've never written a script beforer
[05:51] <gbear14275> terli: ok will do
[05:51] <terli> only hacked about a million of them
[05:51] <gbear14275> terli: brb
[05:51] <terli> just kidding I once wrote one for xdesktopwaves
[05:51] <R1_> Hi, can someone kindly take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/93053/ for me and please  let me know how i can change the "Candidate" meaning I want to install from the second source  instead of the  first
[05:51] <terli> but that was way back in feisty
[05:52] <terryx> where is resizer root option?
[05:52] <Flannel> terryx: In LVPM I believe
[05:52] <davidbalbert> does anyone have experience running kgdb on 8.10?
[05:52] <terli> terryx: you may have some issues trying to expand it from itself.
[05:52] <chilli0> hello9 all
[05:53] <terli> terryx : you will probably have to insert a live cd with a partitioner and re-size it.
[05:53] <chilli0> does anyone have a link to a tutorial that shows me how to install ftp and lighttpd on ubuntu server?
[05:53] <terli> !server
[05:53] <terli> !lighthttpd
[05:53] <JayEnk> hehhe
[05:53] <JayEnk> help me
[05:53] <JayEnk> tolong
[05:53] <JayEnk> please
[05:53] <FloodBot1> JayEnk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:54] <terli> JeyEnk, please state your issue
[05:54] <Portmen> I setup ubuntu persistent on my new 8GB usb stick like i successfully did on a 1GB except I used a different name for the first partition. When i boot from the 8GB, it displays a small rectangle smiley face in the upper left corner without doing anything else. Does anyone know what this is and what it means?
[05:54] <Flannel> terli: Please don't speculate if you're not sure, you'll only confuse.
[05:54] <terli> er, and if your flooding, use pastebin.org
[05:54] <JayEnk> ya
[05:54] <piojunbabia>  i think i need to look for winxp installer
[05:55] <piojunbabia> i have difficulty ubuntu
[05:55] <JayEnk> i'm need your help
[05:55] <JayEnk> to set eth0 in my ubuntu 8.10 interpid
[05:55] <JayEnk> hmm
[05:55] <JayEnk> please
[05:55] <JayEnk> i can't connect to internet
[05:55] <JayEnk> now
[05:55] <Flannel> !enter | JayEnk
[05:56] <R1_> Hi, can someone kindly take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/93053/ for me and please  let me know how i can change the "Candidate" meaning I want to install from the second source  instead of the  first
[05:56] <JayEnk> hmm
[05:56] <terli> JarEnk, this is a different machine correct?
[05:56] <JayEnk> i was seting but can't connect
[05:57] <JayEnk> i input this
[05:57] <terryx> its far difficult for me to do this procedure...is there any way to increase my ubuntu file system from xp??????
[05:57] <JayEnk> modprobe ipv6
[05:57] <terryx> i am totally new
[05:57] <terli> terryx : no.
[05:58] <JayEnk> ip tunnel add he-ipv6 mode sit remote 72.52.104.74 local 125.163.220.187 ttl 255
[05:58] <error404notfound> I can use ubuntu cd to do a kickstart install?
[05:58] <terli> JayEnk, if you are trying to enable an IPV6 machine, I heartily recommend joining an IPv6 network
[05:58] <JayEnk> hmm
[05:58] <JayEnk> why
[05:58] <Flannel> terryx: http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html  Scroll down to the "Resizing virtual disks using....", that's what you need to follow (once you've installed LVPM)
[05:58] <JayEnk> i can retrying
[05:59] <gbear14275> terli: great... so its executing although it doesn't seem to be working right...
[06:00] <terli> gbear14275: is it ever ending?
[06:00] <gbear14275> its still showing up on top of desktop icons and not appearing on other workspaces, etc... I don't think the last two lines are executing correctly
[06:00] <terli> so it finished the script completely?
[06:01] <gbear14275> I think so... although to be honest I wouldn't know if it wasn't....
[06:01] <terli> I said copy it into a terminal and run it
[06:01] <terli> when the terminal says $ again then it will have finished
[06:01] <gbear14275> ah... ok, yeah not ending
[06:02] <terli> ok I think, if my memory does not fail me...
[06:02] <terli> stinkin memory...
[06:02] <terli> try using & instead of &&
[06:02] <gbear14275> its bringing up another terminal window though... in the initial terminal window will it ever stop running while the 2nd terminal is open? terli?
[06:02] <terli> Using Cntrl-c will stop the script, no problems.
[06:03] <gbear14275> terli: When I use Ctrl-C it closes the opened terminal... although I think thats ok
[06:03] <terli> that's ok man, all we did was kill the script
[06:03] <terli> now change the script
[06:03] <terli> replace && with just &
[06:03] <gbear14275> terli: are you familiar with the wmctrl program at all?
[06:03] <terli> not in the slightest.
[06:05] <gbear14275> ok changed and tried again... although still not ending
[06:05] <Flannel> terli, gbear14275: & won't work.  You don't want a bitwise and
[06:05] <terli> flannel
[06:05] <terli> would you please instruct us in the proper command
[06:05] <terli> he needs to execute a command, then execute another without waiting for the first to stop
[06:06] <Flannel> terli: Please stop using the enter key as punctuation
[06:06] <Flannel> gbear14275: You want command1 & (newline) command2
[06:07] <terli> so I'm confused
[06:07] <billybigrigger> how do i get conky to run but not in a window?
[06:07] <billybigrigger> i just want it to sit on my desktop background
[06:07] <Flannel> terli: but I'm not sure that works in bash scripts
[06:07] <terli> "command1 & command2" does something different than " command1 & /n command2"
[06:07] <ultrav1olet> Does debian/ubuntu have something like redhat's /etc/init.d/iptables start|stop? I want to MANUALLY configure iptable rules without any semibroken automatic managers
[06:07] <gbear14275> billybigrigger: trying to figure out that myself  too... try this walkthrough although i'm not through the terminal part myself... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=709217
[06:08] <ultrav1olet> I need no automatic configuration, just simple loading of manually written iptable rules
[06:08] <CaptainMorgan> can someone help me with a boot problem? I got three disks, two of which are in a raid 1 setup, /dev/sda and /dev/sdb, that runs Linux, Then I got a fresh Windows installation on /dev/sdc, and my grub selection looks like so: title		Microsoft Windows XP ProfessionaL, root		(hd2,0), savedefault, makeactive, chainloader	+1, all on separate lines... I've tried hd1,0 and h2,1 both to no avail... with the current h2,0 at least the
[06:08] <CaptainMorgan> option goes to "Starting up..." but then it hangs.... any ideas?
[06:08] <nomad77> billybigrigger: read then use  gedit ~/.conkyrc
[06:08] <terli> !iptables
[06:09] <nomad77> ultrav1olet: sudo iptables -F to clear chains
[06:09] <billybigrigger> nomad77, read what? im reading the conky docs right now
[06:09] <Flannel> gbear14275: Your best bet may be #bash  they should be able to get you set up
[06:09] <ultrav1olet> nomad77: damn
[06:09] <ultrav1olet> is there a script for doing that?
[06:09] <ultrav1olet> like iptables start|stop?
[06:10] <Mike_92> I've updated to Intrepid and I'm not too fond of what has changed to the theme Glossy, is there a way I can revert back to what it used to look like?
[06:10] <billybigrigger> nomad77, nevermind, line 8 of .conkyrc background no
[06:10] <billybigrigger> nomad77, hah
[06:10] <ultrav1olet> how come such a popular distro lacks normal and absolutely usual script?
[06:10] <gbear14275> Flannel: alright... I will try to do it there... as an alternative do you know any walkthroughs to put a terminal onto the desktop
[06:10] <nomad77> ultrav1olet:  they run once set rules then stop so -F or --flush is req'd to clear current ruleset
[06:11] <klaxian> merry christmas :)  i wonder if anyone can help me.  many data DVDs that I have burned cannot seem to be mounted in Ubuntu
[06:11] <klaxian> any ideas?
[06:11] <klaxian> i searched google and found others with this problem, but no solutions
[06:11] <terli> gbear14275 I strongly recommend introducing your issue in #xfce and #bash(#bash first).
[06:12] <klaxian> i have tried several brands of DVDs and different burning options without success
[06:12] <klaxian> other devices (ie. PS3) recognize the discs fine, but Ubuntu will not
[06:12] <gbear14275> terli: alright... will do, thanks for the pointers
[06:12] <usser> ultrav1olet, ubuntu uses ufw so you might want to look into that
[06:13] <n8tuser> what is another way to  restart gdm or X?  the desktop is frozen, no keyboard or mouse input taken, top shows X uses 98.9% cpu,  im ssh'd in, and tried gdm restart to no avail
[06:13] <jim_p> hello people
[06:13] <davenull> n8tuser: You have to be root to kill it.
[06:13] <terli> klaxian : you are burning disks in machine A , which may or may not have ubuntu, and attempting to mount them in Machine B, that does?
[06:13] <klaxian> terli: no, the discs were burned with ubuntu and i'm trying to mount them with ubuntu
[06:13] <usser> ultrav1olet, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ufw-uncomplicated-firewall-for-ubuntu-hardy.html
[06:13] <n8tuser> davenull-> i was root after i ssd in, i gdm restart not stop
[06:13] <jim_p> where does amsn store its settings?
[06:13] <n8tuser> davenull-> i was root after i sshd in, i gdm restart not stop
[06:14] <klaxian> terli: same computer
[06:14] <linuxguymarshall> hey, anyone know of a way to lock down a hard drive's partitions? not just block them from being edited in the local OS but to prevent them from being changed at all
[06:14] <terli> klaxian, so a drive burned the disk, but it cannot mount said disk for reading
[06:14] <jim_p> linuxguymarshall, crypto
[06:14] <klaxian> terli: yes.  i have also tried to mount the same disc in several computers running ubuntu (not just the burning computer) and i get the same problem each time.  devices not running ubuntu seem to mount the disc fine
[06:15] <terli> klaxian , these are data cd's or dvds? please specify.
[06:15] <n8tuser> shoot, not even dbus restart will kill Xorg, its taking up 99.1% now
[06:15] <klaxian> terli: data DVDs
[06:15] <jim_p> linuxguymarshall, crypto wont prevent changes if the partitions are mounted though
[06:15] <linuxguymarshall> jim_p: That will make it impossible to edit it from ANYWHERE? Even like an external flash drive with another OS on it?
[06:15] <klaxian> terli: CDs do not have this problem
[06:15] <terli> klaxian , please read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=776480, but also remember that ubuntu needs libdvdcss2 to read movies from dvd
[06:16] <jim_p> linuxguymarshall, yea i guess so. that is what crypto does
[06:16] <klaxian> terli: i have libdvdcss2 installed, but i will read the thread as you suggest.  i am burning data, not movies
[06:16] <linuxguymarshall> jim_p:thanks
[06:16] <jim_p> linuxguymarshall, keep in mind that the drive can be formatted altogether and lose everything in case of eg being stolen
[06:16] <terli> klaxian, I could go with gut instincts and tell you to try burning them in k3b
[06:17] <jim_p> where does amsn store its settings?
[06:17] <CaptainMorgan> can someone help me with a boot problem? I got three disks, two of which are in a raid 1 setup, /dev/sda and /dev/sdb, that runs Linux, Then I got a fresh Windows installation on /dev/sdc, and my grub selection looks like so: title		Microsoft Windows XP ProfessionaL, root		(hd2,0), savedefault, makeactive, chainloader	+1, all on separate lines... I've tried hd1,0 and h2,1 both to no avail... with the current h2,0 at least the
[06:17] <CaptainMorgan> option goes to "Starting up..." but then it hangs.... any ideas?
[06:17] <klaxian> terli: i have tried several programs including nautilus-cd-burner and brasero.  i think they all use cdrecord anyway, don't they?
[06:17] <moses> question: xubuntu good for first time user on a bad laptop
[06:17] <terli> jim_p : it stores them in /home/USERNAME/.programname/
[06:18] <klaxian> terli: it is definitely a mounting problem
[06:18] <moses> also: i want to be picky about the kernal
[06:18] <terli> klaxian, as a firm gnome user, I still say try k3b.
[06:18] <moses> is that possible with ubuntu?
[06:18] <jim_p> terli, i dont se a .amsn folder in my home
[06:18] <linuxguymarshall> jim_p:Yeah. I am attempting to make a "game console" of sorts and wanted to make sure that my friends didnt end up installing WinBlows or OSX-x86 on it for ****s and giggles
[06:18] <Flannel> moses: Define picky
[06:18] <moses> Flannel: i dont want gnome to rape my resources
[06:18] <terli> jim_p: that is because it is hiddden.
[06:18] <klaxian> terli: if the dvds work in non-ubuntu devices, how can it be a burning problem?
[06:18] <shiMMer> how can i test my html writing??what bess application for me??
[06:18] <Flannel> moses: That has nothing to do with the kernel
[06:18] <terli> klaxian : your issue could have to do with something I know nothing about.
[06:18] <klaxian> terli: seems to be an issue just with intrepid too
[06:19] <jim_p> linuxguymarshall, game console on linux? give me a sec to solve my amsn thing and i will be back
[06:19] <moses> Flannel: well what is killing my resources on my current ver of xubuntu?
[06:19] <linuxguymarshall> jim_p:ok
[06:19] <n8tuser> hmmm...just learn  gdm restart does not kill X,
[06:19] <jim_p> terli, i know its hidden! even with hidden files and folders visible, its not there
[06:19] <terli> klaxian, It is probable that something went really wrong inside ubuntu. please file a bug report on launchpad and include the device name and a copy of mount.
[06:19] <Flannel> moses: I have no idea.  But the kernel won't have anything to do with gnome, or whatever else, using your resources
[06:19] <moses> ok im going to install ubuntu because my friends use it
[06:19] <klaxian> will do.  i see some similar bugs already filed so perhaps someone has already reported this
[06:20] <moses> i hope i can learn by using it
[06:20] <moses> im currently tring to install fedora
[06:20] <moses> its much to heavy
[06:20] <moses> for this laptop
[06:20] <terli> btw klaxian, I have intrepid and can burn/read disks fine
[06:20] <jim_p> linuxguymarshall, one thing i would lock is the bios and bootability from cds and the like
[06:20] <n8tuser> moses as compared to which?
[06:20] <moses> xubuntu?
[06:20] <klaxian> terli: yah it's interesting.  seems like this just started recently, but it affects all my intrepid machines
[06:20] <linuxguymarshall> jim_p:Yes, that is obvious
[06:20] <moses> is that assumption correct?
[06:20] <n8tuser> moses i dont think so
[06:20] <jim_p> can some amsn user verify that he/she has a .amsn folder?
[06:20] <klaxian> terli: do u have proposed enabled?
[06:20] <moses> fedora is lighter?
[06:21] <n8tuser> moses no, they are about equal
[06:21] <jim_p> moses, no, they are equal
[06:21] <moses> well fedora can barley load onto my ram
[06:21] <moses> for the livecd
[06:21] <moses> its quite annoying
[06:21] <jim_p> moses, how much ram are you on?
[06:21] <terli> moses, get an alternate install disk.
[06:21] <terli> !alt
[06:22] <krishmish> can someone simulate yugma webconference with me?
[06:22] <n8tuser> jim_p-> yes there is .amsn/
[06:22] <krishmish> !yugma
[06:22] <moses> can i get the light for xubuntu?
[06:22] <jim_p> the light?
[06:23] <moses> err
[06:23] <moses> alternate
[06:23] <moses> im sorr
[06:23] <moses> y
[06:23] <klaxian> terli: it might be a kernel config issue...i'm going to try an older kernel to test
[06:23] <FloodBot1> moses: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:23] <moses> lol
[06:23] <jim_p> moses, please explain me why do you want the live enviroment to load to ram first?
[06:23] <klaxian> terlmann: thanks for your help :)
[06:23] <moses> ok well im probably wrong
[06:23] <moses> im loading the livecd for fedora
[06:23] <Flannel> moses: Yes. http://www.xubuntu.org/get  the mirrors will have both the Desktop and the alternate CD
[06:23] <moses> its currently running quite slow, also i do not know why
[06:24] <jim_p> moses, how much ram is on that pc you are on?
[06:24] <moses> i think its 512
[06:24] <moses> but im not sure
[06:24] <moses> maybe 128
[06:25] <jim_p> moses, cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemTotal
[06:25] <moses> also i think the cdrom drive is exceptionally slow
[06:25] <shiMMer> how can i test my html writing??what bess application for me??
[06:26] <krishmish> shimmer ...try bluefish
[06:26] <krishmish> or dreamweaver
[06:27] <CaptainMorgan> can someone help me with a boot problem? I got three disks, two of which are in a raid 1 setup, /dev/sda and /dev/sdb, that runs Linux, Then I got a fresh Windows installation on /dev/sdc, and my grub selection looks like so: title		Microsoft Windows XP ProfessionaL, root		(hd2,0), savedefault, makeactive, chainloader	+1, all on separate lines... I've tried hd1,0 and h2,1 both to no avail... with the current h2,0 at least the
[06:27] <CaptainMorgan> option goes to "Starting up..." but then it hangs.... any ideas?
[06:27] <Yasumoto> shiMMer: also, just plain gedit and firefox works pretty well
[06:27] <jim_p> moses, what did that command return?
[06:28] <Yasumoto> shiMMer: save the file onto your desktop and open it with firefox
[06:28] <moses> lol
[06:28] <moses> im a failure
[06:28] <moses> i forgot my login
[06:28] <Yasumoto> CaptainMorgan: have you tried "sudo update-grub" ?
[06:28] <moses> for xubuntu
[06:28] <FloodBot1> moses: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:28] <Flannel> moses: Please stop using the enter key as punctuation
[06:28] <Yasumoto> CaptainMorgan: (I think that's the command)
[06:29] <Flannel> moses: Is this an installed system?
[06:29] <moses> currently that is correct
[06:30] <twilight> heeo
[06:30] <CaptainMorgan> Yasumoto, now why do I need to update it that way?
[06:30] <twilight> hello*
[06:30] <R1_> !tty
[06:30] <R1_> tty!
[06:30] <Flannel> moses: Alright, reboot, and at the GRUB menu (right after the POST screen, you may need to hit escape to see it) choose the recovery console.  From there, you can cat /etc/passwd, and take a look at the usernames on the system.  Type "init 2" to finish the boot process and get back to the login screen
[06:30] <CaptainMorgan> Yasumoto, update-grub regenerates menu.lst... I'm not sure that's what I want...
[06:30] <CaptainMorgan> is it?
[06:31] <R1_> exit
[06:32] <moses> Flannel: there are several options; resume, repair, root, xfix
[06:32] <jim_p> how can i find the filesystem of a drive from the terminal?
[06:33] <Flannel> moses: Are you booting to the liveCD?
[06:33] <usser> jim_p, sudo fdisk -l
[06:33] <\Kira> Im trying to install a deb program, and it requires a package that I dont have. If I try to install that package via apt get, it returns a package not found error. Saying that the package points to another package. If i try to install that package, I get a error saying its up-to-date. Any help?
[06:33] <tonsofpc1> using idjc, selecting the mp3 option shows "MP3 streaming is unavailable" - how do I enable it?
[06:33] <moses> nope i have a previously older version of ubuntu, should i make a livecd of xubuntu? I really want to make an alternate cd for xubuntu
[06:34] <jim_p> usser, i thought of that too :( i was thinking of a more specific solution that will tell me about THAT drive and not all drives on my system
[06:34] <Flannel> moses: You're booting ot that CD though?
[06:34] <jim_p> usser, like a guided fdisk -l
[06:34] <moses> i am not this is a fully installed version of xubuntu
[06:34] <jim_p> moses, cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemTotal
[06:34] <Yasumoto> CaptainMorgan: Do you think you've made any changes to the menu.lst file?
[06:34] <Flannel> moses: You get those options at the grub menu?
[06:35] <jim_p> moses, if you dont know how much memory you have, telling you what to use is pointless
[06:35] <puppiesRcute> hello all any one got any info i installed ubuntu over again as my main drive and my older ubuntu install wont come back on any way to recover my old stuff from that partition
[06:35] <moses> no what i did was, i went to recovery mode boot for the standard ver of xubuntu
[06:35] <wasabi__> is there a gui for rdesktop?
[06:35] <wasabi__> or any type of front end?
[06:35] <puppiesRcute> im blond so any help would be kewl
[06:35] <jim_p> wasabi__, i think tha latest gnome has one
[06:35] <Odd-rationale> !info tsclient
[06:35] <usser> jim_p, well i mean how many drives do you have. its usually not hard to figure out whats what
[06:35] <Odd-rationale> wasabi__: ^
[06:36] <wasabi__> really
[06:36] <Flannel> puppiesRcute: Did you install it on the same partitions?
[06:36] <wasabi__> i only see rdesktop commandline. how do i launch the gui?
[06:36] <\Kira> Im trying to install a deb program, and it requires a package that I dont have. If I try to install that package via apt get, it returns a package not found error. Saying that the package points to another package. If i try to install that package, I get a error saying its up-to-date. Any help?
[06:36] <bullgard4> Where is Grub physically stored on my hard disk?
[06:36] <puppiesRcute> i got a 190 gig and my other is on a 80 installed hardy heron on my 190 and my other will not come back on
[06:36] <jim_p> usser, i have 2 and i know exactly what to look for. how will i instruct my friend from the phone though to look up in his?
[06:36] <Flannel> moses: Right.  You want to choose the recovery mode kernel at the GRUB menu
[06:36] <CaptainMorgan> Yasumoto, of course, as my original question says
[06:36] <jim_p> bullgard4, on the mbr of the disk
[06:36] <zaher> #linuxac
[06:36] <CaptainMorgan> how else can I have it point to the new disk?
[06:37] <jim_p> \Kira, what do you try to install?
[06:37] <Odd-rationale> wasabi__: try tsclient
[06:37] <wasabi__> okay
[06:37] <wasabi__> will do
[06:37] <wasabi__> thanks
[06:37] <usser> jim_p, oh. just get him to install ssh server and look for yourself :)
[06:37] <jim_p> wasabi__, grdesktop is the gnome app
[06:37] <\Kira> Odd-rationale: im trying to install qjoypad, its a graphical end to joy2key
[06:37] <jim_p> usser, let him clean himself up when i cant
[06:37] <usser> jim_p, pastebinit also helps
[06:38] <\Kira> Odd-rationale: it requires the libqt2c102 package, though
[06:38] <\Kira> Odd-rationale: sorry, that was the libqt2c102-mt package
[06:38] <Odd-rationale> \Kira: are you trying to talk to me? or jim_p ?
[06:38] <\Kira> Odd-rationale: opps.... lol. sorry
[06:38] <Odd-rationale> np :D
[06:38] <moses> Flannel: when i boot to that recovery it gives me those options
[06:39] <puppiesRcute> heard from a few people to remake a bootloader for the other but confused on that big time
[06:39] <\Kira> jim_p: im trying to install qjoypad, its a graphical end to joy2key
[06:39] <\Kira> jim_p: it requires the libqt2c102-mt package, though
[06:40] <BinaryBoy001> Hey, I'm having a hard time playing back songs that i ripped from CD to computer.  When i use songbird to play back a song,,a message comes up stating that there is something wrong with the stream.  What can I do?
[06:40] <bullgard4> jim_p: I think your answer is wrong. It is not only in the master boot record of the disk. Because it is larger than the master boot record.
[06:41] <puppiesRcute> any way to recover any thing from my new install and just browse my other partitions maybe
[06:41] <jim_p> bullgard4, not the whole grub fits in the mbr, i know. but the stage one does
[06:42] <ramjedi> I need help configuring Sound Juicer to rip in mp3 format. The mp3 format appears in the edit format box but not in the output format drop menu. How do I get it into the drop down menu?
[06:42] <jim_p> \Kira, can you please show me its url?
[06:42] <wasabi__> sweet
[06:42] <wasabi__> thanks guys
[06:42] <CaptainMorgan> Yasumoto, any ideas?
[06:42] <bullgard4> jim_p: But my question was not: "Where is stage 1 physically stored on my hard disk?" My question was: "Where is Grub physically stored on my hard disk?"
[06:42] <\Kira> jim_p: http://qjoypad.sourceforge.net/
[06:42] <CaptainMorgan> can someone help me with a boot problem? I got three disks, two of which are in a raid 1 setup, /dev/sda and /dev/sdb, that runs Linux, Then I got a fresh Windows installation on /dev/sdc, and my grub selection looks like so: title		Microsoft Windows XP ProfessionaL, root		(hd2,0), savedefault, makeactive, chainloader	+1, all on separate lines... I've tried hd1,0 and h2,1 both to no avail... with the current h2,0 at least the
[06:42] <CaptainMorgan> option goes to "Starting up..." but then it hangs.... any ideas?
[06:43] <jim_p> ramjedi, do you have the relevant plugins for the job?
[06:43] <puppiesRcute> :-( guess no one has any info for me
[06:43] <terryx> ok guys...i think i got the problem...when i mount any usb drive or in built other hdd drive in ubuntu then my computer goes logout or freeze...why this happens?
[06:44] <jim_p> \Kira, give me a sec
[06:44] <moses> jim_p: 192mb of ram
[06:44] <\Kira> I cant run apt-get, it says the device is busy, and that someone else is using it. Im the only user logged on, and Im not running it. How can I fix this?
[06:44] <ramjedi> Yes. The gStreamer plug ins have been installed.
[06:44] <puppiesRcute> your usb reader is malfunctioning and or the install of ubuntu wasnt up to par with the usb install had it happen to me got another usb key and or bought another usb driver and installed it worked fine with puppy an ubuntu
[06:45] <\Kira> nvm, I found and killed the proccess :)
[06:45] <jim_p> moses, get xubuntu cd or some other xfce based distro. you can always use a *box based distro but you have to be really adept with configuration files
[06:45] <wasabi__> do you guys know if hamachi acts the same as a normal vpn client where the connection is tunneled? i am using it for work but i don't want my connection at home to be bridged with work's.
[06:45] <wasabi__> i guess i should say bridged instead of tunnel*
[06:46] <jim_p> \Kira, close synaptic while using apt-get
[06:46] <moses> xubuntu it is, although im going to need help with the alt install disk, will i be able to format the entire drive?
[06:46] <infinity_> wasabi__: i dont think hamachi bridges, though i'm not sure
[06:46] <\Kira> jim_p: I did, but for some reason root was running a apt-get proccess, I just ended it
[06:46] <jim_p> moses, yea. or part of it
[06:46] <Yasumoto> CaptainMorgan: save your old menu.lst as a backup, then run update-grub
[06:46] <shiMMer> is there an alternative way to see my html result??i mean like=html board or something..
[06:46] <LSN> Hello !
[06:46] <LSN> Is there anyone ?
[06:46] <jim_p> \Kira, qjoypad depends on the qt3 libraries
[06:46] <ce_bra_merah> heloo jg
[06:47] <oinil> REGISTER
[06:47] <\Kira> jim_p: how would I get these
[06:47] <oinil> how to register?
[06:47] <\Kira> jim_p: ?
[06:47] <jim_p> \Kira, let me find the proper name in apt
[06:47] <wasabi__> infinity_: if it's tunneled then my connection would be slower right?
[06:47] <LSN> I'm french, but ther isn't anybody on the french canal
[06:47] <Yasumoto> CaptainMorgan: that's helped me a few times before. I don't think I've set up software raid in linux before, what are you using to do that? was that default with the installer?
[06:47] <\Kira> jim_p: yep, of course :)
[06:47] <Yasumoto> CaptainMorgan: sorry to be slow btw, I'm multitasking :-/
[06:48] <infinity_> wasabi__: sorry. you're not making sense.
[06:48] <CaptainMorgan> Yasumoto, raid was installed upon initial system install by alternative disk
[06:48] <LSN> So I need some help with a graphic tablet, which was okay yesterday, but today... ><
[06:48] <jim_p> \Kira, what was the name of that dependency again?
[06:48] <CaptainMorgan> alright I'll try that and see what happens, thank you Yasumoto
[06:48] <LSN> (sorry if my english is bad ><)
[06:48] <billybigrigger> can anyone here get conky to display their cpu frequency correctly? i have {freq} set and its showing as 0.8 Ghz when in fact its 2.1 ghz, but cat /proc/cpuinfo is showing my cpu mhz as 800.00 so whats going on? are both of my cores running at 0.8ghz each?
[06:49] <moDumass> streenz, hmm, it errors out at 80% every time, and doesnt copy the complete install iso to the usb
[06:49] <\Kira> jim_p: libqt3c102-mt
[06:49] <wasabi__> infinity_: sorry. what i meant to say that if my home connection is bridged with my work's then the bandwidth speed would be lower when i try to download at home right? i'm trying to figure out how to tell whether it's bridging or not
[06:49] <moDumass> streenz, im dloading a torrent now, eee 8.04
[06:49] <ramjedi> jim-p, any idea what I am doing wrong? Or is it a glitch in the software?
[06:50] <scriptx> anyway to dictate what video output plugin firefox uses when playing a flash video, like youtube?
[06:50] <infinity_> wasabi__: lol. sounds like you don't know how to describe what you want to.
[06:50] <jim_p> \Kira, try installing this                     libqt3-mt
[06:50] <\Kira> jim_p: okay, one sec
[06:50] <infinity_> wasabi__: try traceroute. that will tell you how you're getting access to something
[06:50] <wasabi__> infinity_: yea. i'm not very familiar with this
[06:50] <wasabi__> ahh
[06:50] <wasabi__> thanks
[06:50] <\Kira> jim_p: its already at its latest version
[06:51] <jim_p> grrrr
[06:51] <Elevator_Hazard> In GParted, how do I make a partition "active"? I installed ubuntu, then I tried installing vista on a partition I set up but it doesn't meet criteria, I think this is the answer.
[06:52] <LSN> So can anyone help me ? =)
[06:52] <wasabi__> infinity_: cool! the connection is not bridged
[06:53] <wasabi__> infinity_: thanks for the help
[06:53] <\Kira> jim_p: any other ideas? Im looking, but not finding anything :(
[06:53] <jim_p> \Kira, i am looking at the packages too
[06:54] <\Kira> jim_p: okay, tell me if you find anything. Thanks for the help, so far :D
[06:54] <moses> whats the best iso burning software you can think of?
[06:54] <jim_p> moses, k3b
[06:55] <moses> does it have built in md5sum checking?
[06:55] <moses> oh im sorry, i needed one for windows
[06:56] <revilodraw> i want to send files from my laptop to my phone via wifi, assuming i dont have a wireless router, is this possible (ad-hoc network?)
[06:57] <revilodraw> ﻿i want to send files from my laptop to my phone via wifi, assuming i dont have a wireless router, is this possible (ad-hoc network?)
[06:58] <roni> 099
[06:58] <terryx> ok guys...i think i got the problem...when i mount any usb drive or in built other hdd drive in ubuntu then my computer goes logout or freeze...why this happens?
[06:59] <shiMMer> how can i install kismet??
[06:59] <ramjedi> I have checked to see that I have the gStreamer plugins for mp3 format installed from the repository. I see the mp3 format in the edit format box in Sound Juicer preferences, but it does not appear in the output format drop down menu. What can I do to rip in mp3 format?
[06:59] <vpew> can someone tell me how to find out someones IP in pidgin?
[07:00] <vpew> can someone tell me how to find out someones IP in pidgin through a link?
[07:00] <\Kira> jim_p: I think I found a method of installing it, its not the method I was hoping to use, but it looks like it should work. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=147918, what do you think?
[07:00] <jim_p> \Kira, compiling it from source?
[07:00]  * JayEnk wes lah nek ra ngerteni wong lagi mumet ra papa 
[07:00] <jim_p> \Kira, no, its that alien thing
[07:00]  * JayEnk tapi aja kaya kue carane
[07:00] <\Kira> jim_p: no, downloading the rpm, converting it to deb, then installing it and linking the icons
[07:01] <nilson> Hello - I am trying to install a Metacity theme ("Blended") and when I drag and drop it into the Theme UI, it says that is has been installed, but does not show up
[07:01] <nilson> I verified that the appropriate directories are placed in .themes
[07:01] <jim_p> \Kira, better compile it from source. i dont trust alien
[07:01] <moazamraja> i'm having the weirdest problem...
[07:01] <moazamraja> same hardware, comparing java performance...Ubuntu is a good deal faster than CentOS 5
[07:01] <\Kira> jim_p: I tried, but it returns errors with a command missing. qmake
[07:01] <jim_p> nilson, exract the tar file on the desktop and move it to .themes
[07:01] <moazamraja> same Java VM
[07:01] <EEEPCFTW> hello
[07:01] <moazamraja> but the thing is, they use the same kernel...
[07:02] <moazamraja> so why would performance be so different?
[07:02] <EEEPCFTW> does anyone know if there is like a ipod/sync software app for linux? ubuntu
[07:02] <jim_p> \Kira, then use the alien :(
[07:02] <moazamraja> main difference is in network socket and message passing performance
[07:02] <\Kira> jim_p: this appears to be the only method, thanks for you help, anyways :)
[07:02] <EEEPCFTW> i have ipod touch and eee pc can u get software to sync?
[07:02] <jim_p> EEEPCFTW, some amarok plugin can transfer songs and the like
[07:03] <vpew> can someone tell me how to find out someones IP in pidgin through a link?
[07:03] <EEEPCFTW> ok :S lol
[07:03] <jim_p> EEEPCFTW, and there is also floola
[07:03] <jim_p> http://www.floola.com/modules/wiwimod/
[07:03] <EEEPCFTW> ok ty i will look
[07:03] <jim_p> EEEPCFTW, and songbird
[07:03] <Elevator_Hazard> In GParted, how do I make a partition "active"? I installed ubuntu, then I tried installing vista on a partition I set up but it doesn't meet criteria, I think this is the answer.
[07:03] <onnyx> vpew, just tell them to go to http://whatsmyip.org and paste the result
[07:04] <CaptainMorgan> Yasumoto, I had some time to review update-grub... what it does is *only* searches /boot for vm* files, thus it's only useful for linux... I removed my menu.lst, and then ran it, after its creation it just output the original menu.lst, *without* any windows option
[07:04] <nilson> jim_p, still does not show up
[07:04] <nilson> confusing.
[07:04] <\Kira> the apt-get command keeps telling me a media change has occured and I have to insert my install disk. This reminds me alot of windows :( Whats going on?
[07:05] <jim_p> \Kira, open sources.list and remove the cdrom line
[07:05] <jim_p> \Kira, its the very first on the top
[07:05] <\Kira> jim_p: were is sources.list?
[07:05] <jim_p> \Kira, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:06] <\Kira> jim_p: gedit not found, I can just use nano, right?
[07:06] <jim_p> \Kira, yea
[07:06] <\Kira> jim_p: cool thanks
[07:07] <revilodraw> i want to send files from my laptop to my phone (dell inspiron to nokia n96) via wifi. lets say i dont have bluetooth, and i dont have a wireless router. is this possible (ad hoc network?)
[07:08] <EEEPCFTW> Hello,
[07:08] <raphre> hello, can some one show me how to remove a .deb package i installed  with gdebi package installer?
[07:08] <IchigoMorino> How do you add application file type associations in Firefox under Edit > Preferences > Applications?
[07:08] <EEEPCFTW> Do you know what command/s to type to get a .RAR Extractor? for EEE PC or Linux?
[07:09] <aeporwi> what's the url for the video contest I'am a ubuntu?
[07:09] <IchigoMorino> EEEPCFTW: 'sudo apt-get install unrar'
[07:10] <Kira> When my eth0 is configured by DHCP, by default the /etc/resolv.conf is modified to use the DNS information supplied by the DHCP server, right?
[07:10] <justizin> Kira: roughly speaking, yes.
[07:11] <IchigoMorino> EEEPCFTW: If you install that you can unrar things from the command line, and most graphical extractors like the one that comes with Ubuntu will then work with rar to.
[07:11] <Kira> justizin: so how do I prevent the /etc/resolv.conf from losing extra dns that I put in?
[07:11] <kad41> hi, newb question, but how do i uninstall something? i dont think it even installed cause i run it from my downloads directory. can i just delete it?
[07:11] <EEEPCFTW> Ok thanks :)
[07:12] <IchigoMorino> kad41: What is "it"?
[07:12] <justizin> Kira: edit /etc/network/interfaces and control dns-nameservers config
[07:12] <kad41> its called twonkymedia server
[07:13] <dickinch15> im new here so how are yall doing and i love ubuntu i just love it lol
[07:13] <justizin> resolvconf does the rest of the work purportedly
[07:13] <IchigoMorino> kad41: What type of file is it and how did you "try to install it"?
[07:13] <aeporwi> lol
[07:13] <shatly> any one here bridgied a wired eathernet network to a wireless in ubuntu (if on the eeepc that would be even better)
[07:13] <aeporwi> why does ubuntu 8.10 suck for audio?
[07:13] <Flannel> !ics | shatly
[07:13] <shatly> i seen to not be able to get my wireless transmiting, and when i do i have not wired eathernet
[07:14] <bazhang> aeporwi, do you have a support question
[07:14] <shatly> i have tryed that
[07:14] <kad41> its an executable that i run in the command line
[07:14] <shatly> i eather get my wireless brodcasting, or my wired working
[07:14] <imaginent> :
[07:15] <IchigoMorino> How do you add application file type associations in Firefox under Edit > Preferences > Applications?
[07:15] <CaptainMorgan> Yasumoto, do you think not having anything in /etc/fstab might have something to do with this?? I figure it might but previously I thought no because the system never gets to that point... but since ubuntu is identifying it as /dev/sdc1 then why not edit fstab?
[07:15] <onnyx> shatly, do you connect to the same network wired and wireless?
[07:16] <shatly> onnyx: no, the problum is we have one wire for 3 computers, and i have no ieda about vista, so i am trying to do it on my laptop
[07:16] <jim_p> any ideas on how to make this work    Bus 005 Device 002: ID 046d:c21a Logitech, Inc. Precision Gamepad
[07:16] <shatly> the simple sloution would just get a proper router, but this is only for a week
[07:16] <kad41> are you asking me?
[07:17] <CaptainMorgan> actually.. no.. I don't think that will make a difference...
[07:17] <CaptainMorgan> at boot, the disks are identified by (hd*,*) when it gets to linux then they're named according to /dev
[07:17] <onnyx> shatly, so you're trying to have your notebook run as an access point?
[07:18] <shatly> onnyx: yes, because it is not vista, and proaly the only one that is going to stay on and not mobal for the most amount of time
[07:21] <onnyx> shatly, my guess is you'll have do disable networkmanager. it likes to interfere with anything but the machine as a client
[07:21] <shatly> i did
[07:22] <Yasumoto> CaptainMorgan: yeah, that's probably not a good thing
[07:22] <onnyx> shatly, if you went after this guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing?action=show&redirect=InternetConnectionSharing), where did it go wrong?
[07:23] <shatly> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ShareEthernetConnectionThroughWireless
[07:23] <shatly> is what i went with
[07:23] <Kira> justizin: why don't I see dns-nameservers in the man page of interfaces?
[07:23] <shatly> and getting the outher computers connecting to the wifi
[07:24] <shatly> seeing the network
[07:25] <n8tuser> shatly-> i came in a bit late, what are you trying to achieve?
[07:25] <shatly> right now all i want is to creat a ad-hoc network over wifi, and have wired eathernet still work
[07:26] <n8tuser> shatly you have one dsl/router/AP  ? and how many clients?
[07:26] <shatly> i have a Atheros based wifi card
[07:26] <shatly> the problum is 3 laptops and only one wired connection
[07:26] <shatly> the outher two are *shivers* vista
[07:27] <shatly> so i am trying to get it to work on my EEEpc (701) and shae
[07:27] <n8tuser> shatly-> the router is also an access point right?
[07:27] <shatly> this is just from the dsl modem
[07:27] <onnyx> n8tuser, he's trying to share wired internet over his laptop's wireless as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ShareEthernetConnectionThroughWireless
[07:27] <moses> how do i install a bootloader using gparted?
[07:27] <onnyx> shatly, what happens to your eth0 when the wireless clients are connected?
[07:28] <n8tuser> onnyx -> listen to my questions okay?
[07:28] <n8tuser> shatly-> the router is also an access point right?
[07:28] <shatly> i want dsl modem ----> eth0 ---> wifi0 ------> outher lappy's via ad-hoc netork
[07:28] <shatly> i never got cliants to connect all the way to my wifi
[07:29] <n8tuser> shatly -> once more, is the dsl modem/router is also an accessp point?
[07:29] <shatly> i only have done wired or wifi in the pst
[07:29] <shatly> past
[07:29] <shatly> never ad-hoc on my end
[07:30] <onnyx> n8tuser, i'm listening...
[07:31] <n8tuser> shatly are you paying attention to my questions?
[07:31] <shatly> also if we do somthing to bring my internet down temparaly, i am going into irc via a server, so i will still be here
[07:31] <yaris123456789> hey guys i think i bought a template from a website, and i found exact same on monstertemplates....i got scammed what to do now ?
[07:31] <shatly> there is no router
[07:31] <shatly> i am trying to force lappy to be router
[07:31] <bazhang> !ot > yaris123456789
[07:32] <n8tuser> shatly -> if i understood you, its just a plain straight dsl modem no other router functionalities?
[07:32] <n8tuser> !who | shatly
[07:32] <shatly> yes
[07:32] <shatly> n8tuser: yes
[07:33] <n8tuser> shatly -> how many ethernet nic cards do you have in your laptop?
[07:33] <imaginent> !tab
[07:33] <shatly> n8tuser: it is a eeepc, so i have one wifi, and one wired port
[07:34] <revilodraw> is it possible to send files from laptop to phone (inspiron to n96) over wifi?
[07:35] <CaptainMorgan> how can I list disks in hd*,* format?
[07:35] <n8tuser> shatly -> no other hubs or stand alone router you may have around?
[07:35] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: take /dev/sdXY and it becomes hd(X-1),(Y-1)
[07:36] <shatly>  n8tuser about 4,000 miles away
[07:37] <shatly> n8tuser: my lan party group has a switching capasity of 800 computers
[07:37] <n8tuser> shatly then you have to make that wifi work in adhoc mode to have the other two vista clients connect to it in ad-hoc mode
[07:37] <revilodraw> ﻿ is it possible to send files from laptop to phone (inspiron to n96) over wifi?
[07:37]  * shatly realises how much easier it is to network 500 wired ports then to create a simple ad-hoc network
[07:38] <NicEXE> where can I find the configuration file for compiz?
[07:38] <n8tuser> shatly -> is that close by you can use, whatever that lan party group you are referring to?
[07:38] <shatly> n8tuser: the problum is when i go into adhoc mode is that i can not use eth0 for some reasion
[07:38] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, what is the x-1 mean? cuz I have hd0,0 in grub listed and that matches up with /dev/sda1 yet, when I tried to tell grub to boot hd2,0 it hung with "Starting up...", based on your explanation, h2,0 should match /dev/sdc1
[07:38] <nabsha> anyone doing urdu translations here?
[07:38] <shatly> n8tuser: that is the 4k miles away i am refering to
[07:39] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: That's correct.
[07:39] <shatly> n8tuser: i am in the central us, my routers are in alaska
[07:39] <shiMMer> how can i get fluxbox??
[07:39] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, any idea why it's hanging then?
[07:39] <bazhang> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ nabsha
[07:39] <shatly> (and way worse weather here)
[07:39] <n8tuser> shatly and no computer store nearby you to purchase a soho type of router?
[07:39] <shatly> n8tuser: i am too cheap
[07:39] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: is your root set up properly? Is the kernel there? etc?
[07:40] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, this is what I'm trying to boot: http://pastebin.com/m9976247
[07:40] <shatly> n8tuser: it is for less then a week, so 50 for a router will not work for me
[07:40] <NicEXE> where can I find the configuration file for compiz?
[07:40] <n8tuser> shatly then in that case, you have to keep on hacking on that wifi card you have to put it in adhoc mode
[07:40] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: ah.  If you change your BIOS to boot to that partition first, does windows boot fine?
[07:41] <Natanaiel> does ubuntu use binary packages?
[07:41] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: You can also try making it rootnoverify (hd2,0) instead of root (hd2,0)
[07:41] <Flannel> Natanaiel: Yes
[07:41] <shiMMer> how can i get fluxbox??
[07:41] <zixelex> I want install ubuntu from fllopy disk ?
[07:41] <CaptainMorgan> and it hangs with "Starting up..." my root is two disks, both in raid 1 through the alternative installation... the third disk is a fresh Windows installation that boots fine by itself
[07:41] <CaptainMorgan> I supposed I'll try rootnoverify.. but I'm not confident... you going to be around a for a bit?
[07:41] <n8tuser> shatly are you even able to put your wifi card in adhoc mode and have at least one vista to connect to it?
[07:42] <shatly> n8tuser: i think
[07:42] <shiMMer> i use my fluxbox session.i open nautilus,then it automatically return to my gnome.it weird...what can i do??
[07:42] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: Try changing it to hd1,0.  You can edit the lines from GRUB itself by hitting 'e' at the menu entry.  Makes it quick to try stuff
[07:42] <Natanaiel> but what's the diffrence between binary packages az deb packages & ubuntu use which of them?
[07:42] <zixelex> I'm have ibm thinkpad 600
[07:42] <shatly> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[07:42] <shatly> n8tuser: ^^^
[07:42] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, I tried h1,0 and it reported back error 13, bad boot sequence, or similar.. h2,0 is the best result so far
[07:42] <shatly> look down near the bootom at Atheros based cards
[07:42] <shatly> that is what i have
[07:42] <Flannel> Natanaiel: Ubuntu uses deb packages.  Which is the debian package format, although Ubuntu debs aren't necessarily binary compatable with debian packages
[07:42] <NicEXE> where can I find the configuration file for compiz?
[07:42] <n8tuser> shatly -> were you able to have the vista connect to it?
[07:43] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, oh ok.. -e will come in handy, thanks!
[07:43] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: We could try mapping, it may be that windows is having an issue not being on sda1 (which isn't uncommon)
[07:43] <shatly> n8tuser: it was able to see it but i have a feeling that they were typing in the wrong pass the one time
[07:43] <shatly> but i was trying to get my wired reenabled that one time
[07:43] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: map (hd0) (hd2)\nmap (hd2) (hd0)
[07:44] <n8tuser> shatly having two nic cards, they are independent of each other
[07:44] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, isn't that just an issue of which sata cables are where? logically and physically, the first two disks are wired to the first two sata slots.. with the third sata cable on the third disk matching the third slot..
[07:44] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: No.  Windows throws a hissy fit if it's not primary master
[07:44] <CaptainMorgan> so if I put the third disk on the mobo's first sata slot, shouldn't that pick it up as sda 1?
[07:44] <shatly> n8tuser: as far as i know my wireless is a diffrent card then my wired
[07:45] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, with regards to map, is that only local? or can that be done at the grub prompt?
[07:45] <n8tuser> shatly right, thats why am surprised when you claimed, you had your adhoc working but it affected your eth0  which didnt seem to make sense
[07:45] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: Edit the windows entry, add those two lines near the top.
[07:46] <phnom> NicEXE, Depends on the backend, usually it's gconf so it should be ~/.gconf/apps/compiz
[07:46] <CaptainMorgan> ah.. ok
[07:46] <Desperado667> Anyone have experience with Lacie network drives?
[07:46] <shatly> n8tuser:  i had it once, and then i rebooted, and could not get it again
[07:46] <shatly> i think i am going to try again when i get some sleep
[07:46] <shatly> that may help
[07:47] <n8tuser> shatly -> a good rest does wonders
[07:47] <amuro> MERRY CHRISTMAS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:47] <Captain_Haddock> hi, I have 2 sata drives on my system and they've both gone down :( How do I troubleshoot?
[07:47] <shatly> Captain_Haddock: sudo fdisk -l
[07:47] <shatly> are they listed there?
[07:48] <CaptainMorgan> thank you Flannel, I'll be back in a bit, hopefully you'll be around in a few
[07:48] <Captain_Haddock> shatly: nope
[07:48] <Captain_Haddock> I rebooted just now
[07:48] <shatly> Captain_Haddock: then it may be a bios problum, or hardware
[07:49]  * Captain_Haddock reboots - brb
[07:49] <shatly> Captain_Haddock: is it pluged into the mb, and are they spinning
[07:49] <Captain_Haddock> thanks shatly
[07:50] <shatly> Captain_Haddock: no problum, get help, and give is my theory
[07:50] <evilGUI> are you pretty safe in Ubuntu if you don't use ssh?
[07:51] <Odd-rationale> evilGUI: ubuntu doesn have the ssh server installed by default...
[07:51] <Odd-rationale> so you are pretty safe from other people ssh'ing in...
[07:51] <n8tuser> evilGUI -> safe if you dont use the network
[07:51] <evilGUI> Right so if ssh isn't installed are week passwords a bad idea?
[07:52] <evilGUI> I have a lot of people here that hate long passwords
[07:52] <shishio> #wine
[07:52] <Odd-rationale> evilGUI: weak passwds are always a bad idea...
[07:52] <bazhang> !give me a test
[07:52] <evilGUI> right but remote attacks shouldn't be possible right?
[07:52] <bazhang> kldsjfs, hi
[07:52] <Odd-rationale> evilGUI: at least from ssh... if the server is not running/installed.
[07:53] <n8tuser> evilGUI -> safe if you dont use the network
[07:53] <phnom> evilGUI, depends on how they are weak, common easily guessed words are a bad idea, but something like f&H54$. isn't that easily guessed nor cracked with common tables
[07:53] <evilGUI> anything else to watch out for besides ssh?
[07:54] <Odd-rationale> the internet... :P
[07:54] <evilGUI> Oh no there are bad guys on the internet =P
[07:54] <shatly> the tubes man, it is all  in the tubes
[07:55] <shatly> n8tuser:  would the next line being the same in lspci -v be affecting it
[07:55] <shatly> Memory at fbfc0000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256K]
[07:55] <shatly> just a diffrent memory size
[07:56] <n8tuser> shatly -> i dont follow... what about the results of lspci -v   ?
[07:56] <shatly> oooooooooooooo scrach that i am stuppid
[07:56] <shatly> i was looking at the first two and last 5 of it, but not the middle one
[07:56] <shatly> n8tuser: ^
[07:57] <n8tuser> shatly huh?  what are you referring to?
[07:57] <andresmh> I insert a USB pen drive, I type mount and it doesn't seem to show up. Any ideas?
[07:57] <shatly> nm, i am  stupid disregard all of that
[07:58] <shatly> andresmh: sudo fdisk -k
[07:58] <shatly> andresmh: sudo fdisk -l
[07:58] <shatly> sorry
[07:58] <shatly> do you see it there?
[07:58] <NicEXE> where can I find the configuration file for compiz?
[07:59] <andresmh> thanks shatly
[07:59] <phnom> NicEXE, Depends on the backend, usually it's gconf so it should be ~/.gconf/apps/compiz
[08:00] <ewfwef> k
[08:00] <shatly> andresmh: because you should know what sudo does at all times, that just prints off every partition on the computer, if it is not in there then more needs to be done, if it is there, i know how to mount via /etc/fstab but not with mount
[08:00] <NicEXE> how can I disable zoom plug-ins for compiz using the configuration files?
[08:01] <bazhang> ewfwef, hi
[08:01] <ziroday> !ccsm | NicEXE
[08:02] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, that works flawlessly, thank you!
[08:02] <NicEXE> ziroday: I hope I could use the GNOME session (not possible that way. I must disable the plug-ins from the configuration file)
[08:03] <bazhang> !ko > ewfwef
[08:03] <dA_ShArP> Hi people, now when I boot , it stops at the following * Mounting local filesystems...
[08:03] <dA_ShArP> and it doesn't go forward
[08:03] <ziroday> NicEXE: erm I do believe there is a config file, ask in #compiz-fusion
[08:04] <shiMMer> i cant "make" to install fluxbox.can any1 help me?
[08:04] <bazhang> shiMMer, you can install from repos
[08:04] <ziroday> shiMMer: why are you compiling fluxbox?
[08:04] <bazhang> shiMMer, no need to compile that
[08:04] <shiMMer> it new version
[08:04] <dA_ShArP> anyone aware of my problem :-S
[08:04] <shiMMer> fluxbox-1.1.1
[08:05] <shiMMer> or can i download new version from repos??
[08:05] <bazhang> !latest > shiMMer
[08:06] <shiMMer> yes..i need the latest
[08:06] <dA_ShArP> hey people, I mean why does that problem come :-S ,
[08:06] <shoeunited> !latest > shoeunited
[08:07] <dA_ShArP> !latest > dA_ShArP
[08:07] <shoeunited> Oh.
[08:07] <shoeunited> I knew that already.
[08:07] <dA_ShArP> :)
[08:07] <shiMMer> when im on fluxbox session,i open nautilus then it automatically return to my gnome session..how to fix this??
[08:07] <bazhang> shiMMer, what is available in the latest that you need so badly?
[08:08] <ziroday> shiMMer: try open it with nautilus --no-desktop
[08:08] <shiMMer> coz my fluxbox have problem.
[08:08] <shiMMer> when im on fluxbox session,i open nautilus then it automatically return to my gnome session..how to fix this??
[08:08] <Org-Mode> use thunar on fluxbox
[08:08] <bazhang> shiMMer, it logs you out then logs into gnome?
[08:08] <Org-Mode> not nautilus
[08:09] <shiMMer> no..i cant righ click..it went to gnome interface
[08:09] <ziroday> bazhang: I think he means it loads his nautilus desktop as launching nautilus without the --no-desktop option has it control the desktop by default
[08:10] <aboSamoor> Hi, my indexing is enabled. previously it becomes annoying eats 100% of processor for indexing 10 folders. how can I know which folders so I may figure what is the problem. ?
[08:10] <\Kira> how can I stop a service from starting on boot?
[08:10] <shiMMer> let me try again
[08:10] <ziroday> shiMMer: try opening nautilus with the --no-desktop option
[08:11] <shiMMer> ok2..i try
[08:11] <skullsoup> im on a 64 bit system trying to install mplayer an win64 codecs. im baffled. can anyone help me out?
[08:12] <bazhang> skullsoup, from medibuntu.org
[08:12] <\Kira> aboSamoor: if your trying to find what folder is taking so much space, you could download a graphical drive mapper. It shows boxes (by default) of your folders. The boxes are bigger and different colored based on folder size and its contents
[08:13] <Lunks> My processor is currently not behaving how I'd like to when it comes to power-saving speeds. How can I tweak it?
[08:13] <MHz128> Does the 64bit version of Ubuntu offer any performance advantages over the 386 version? ie. is it faster?
[08:13] <ziroday> MHz128: in some places yes, I can find a comparison for you if you want?
[08:14] <MHz128> ziroday, that would be great!
[08:14] <ziroday> MHz128: one sec
[08:14] <Lunks> I have that CPU speed applet for Gnome, and already have tried reconfiguring it so it would allow me to switch frequencies, but looks like it's *not* doing it at all.
[08:14] <Lunks> Little help? :)
[08:14] <skullsoup> i have the medibuntu in my sources for apt but cant get them to work. i installed win64codecs but they wont work on my video
[08:16] <NicEXE> anyway is ther any way to delete the "Area Zoom" plug-in for compiz?
[08:16] <shiMMer> yeah..it ok with "nautilus --no-desktop"..
[08:16] <NicEXE> *there
[08:16] <shiMMer> but how can i connect to my wireless in fluxbox??what is command for network manager??
[08:17] <ziroday> MHz128: take a look at http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_810_vs_fedora_10&num=1
[08:17] <Org-Mode> shiMMer: you should probably be asking fluxbox questions in #fluxbox
[08:17] <MHz128> ziroday, will do! thanks man!
[08:17] <ziroday> shiMMer: you may want to see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[08:17] <ziroday> shiMMer: the command for network manager is nm-applet
[08:17] <shiMMer> it tell me to ask my dist room :(
[08:18] <aboSamoor> \Kira: I want to know the folders being indexed now, recently I generated many large trace files [part of my research] and I don't want them to be indexed
[08:18] <\Kira> aboSamoor: Cant help you there, sorry
[08:19] <phnom> NicEXE, take a look in ~/.gconf/apps/comiz/general/allscreens/options/%gconf.xml
[08:19] <ziroday> !pm > shoeunited
[08:20] <phnom> NicEXE, I think it disables if you delete the entry there...
[08:20] <brishu> hi, is this the place where i ask about wubi ?? or is there a separate channel ??
[08:20] <ziroday> brishu: you can ask about wubi here, and we will try to answer it the best we can :)
[08:21] <brishu> ah ... Ok ..thnx ...
[08:21] <brishu> this might soud a lil vauge ... but ...
[08:21] <brishu> after wubio downloads the stuffa nd i enter setup for the first time .... it always freezes ... '
[08:22] <MHz128> ziroday, How can I determine what version of ntfs-3g is installed on my system? I hear there is a new one that is faster
[08:22] <ziroday> MHz128: apt-cache policy <name>
[08:22] <ziroday> !version > MHz128
[08:22] <kalvin23> i have a question: i have a external hard drive and i want to make a link to this in another directory but when i try to 'make link' it says error creating symbolic link
[08:22] <guyvdb_> Hi, I am logging from an application of mine via sysklogd. How do I configure sysklogd to output messages from my application into a seperate file and not /var/log/syslog?
[08:23] <MHz128> ziroday, thank you!
[08:23] <brishu> ive tried re-installing it a couple dozen times ... and with different flavours ... but same thing ..... is there something that can fix that properly ....
[08:23] <brishu> or should i just blame it on my 6 yr old machine ??
[08:24] <EeveeTrainer> hi how do i prevent ubuntu from loading b43 wireless driver and tell it instead to use ndiswrapper automatically on startup
[08:24] <click170> From a programming perspective, is it possible to mount a remote share (for the sake of argument, NFS) temporarily to, say, scan it for files, without requiring root access?  Or requiring some special customization of the sudoers file?
[08:25] <MHz128> How do I determine what version of ntfs-3g the repo's have?
[08:25] <narzy> how do I partition a new hard drive I installed?
[08:26] <narzy> and can I move my home folder to it?
[08:26] <skullsoup> i have tried http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-mplayer-and-multimedia-codecs-libdvdcss2w32codecsw64codecs-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html  for mplayer with w64doceds but stil wont open my file
[08:26] <Ahadiel> narzy, sudo apt-get install gparted, System => Admin => Partition Editor
[08:26] <shoeunited> MHz128, open a console and type: ntfs-3g --help
[08:26] <narzy> can I do it from SSH?
[08:26] <narzy> or can I screenshare w/ a mac?
[08:27] <shoeunited> MHz128, It should list the version @ the top.
[08:27] <ziroday> narzy: you can partition with fdisk however it can be complicated and dangerous
[08:27] <MHz128> shoeunited, awesome
[08:27] <ziroday> narzy: you can also do ssh -X to do X forwarding and then use gparted
[08:27] <shoeunited> np MHz128 :)
[08:28] <shishio> anyone here used virtual box?
[08:28] <narzy> I did -X and it just looks like a normal SSH
[08:29] <ziroday> narzy: if you run a graphical app it should appear
[08:29] <ziroday> shishio: yes, you can also ask in #virtualbox
[08:29] <narzy> that's awesome
[08:29] <geoilocate> just installed intrepid but get not browse the internet (connecting via proxy) but able to connect to LAN
[08:29] <shishio> ty XD
[08:29] <MHz128> What are the basic dev tool packages I need to compile the new ntfs source? sudo make install doesn't seem to work
[08:30] <narzy> OMG Linux is awesome!
[08:30] <narzy> OMG OMG OMG
[08:30] <ziroday> MHz128: you can do sudo apt-get build-dep ntfs-3g and it will install the build dependencies of ntfs-3g and then it shoukd work
[08:30] <ziroday> MHz128: also see !compile and !latest
[08:30] <MHz128> ziroday, that is too cool :)
[08:30] <MHz128> ok
[08:30] <MHz128> !latest
[08:30] <MHz128> !compile
[08:30] <FloodBot1> MHz128: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:31] <ziroday> !msgthebot > MHz128
[08:31] <MHz128> oh i c
[08:31] <NicEXE> how can I set metacity as my default window manager for gnome session (by editing the configuration files!)
[08:31] <ziroday> MHz128: :)
[08:31] <skullsoup> if anyone knows how to get mplayer working with win64 codecs on 8.10 please message me.
[08:32] <narzy> someone had a tutorial on moving your /home directory
[08:32] <ziroday> NicEXE: look in gconf-editor desktop > gnome > applications > window_manager
[08:32] <napster> I've two broken packages in my  ubuntu 8.10, how to solve this problem?
[08:32] <narzy> but I forgot to bookmark it
[08:32] <skullsoup> i have tried  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-mplayer-and-multimedia-codecs-libdvdcss2w32codecsw64codecs-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[08:32] <Mpole> Merry Xmas everyone!
[08:32] <shoeunited> MHz128, metacity --replace in your startups
[08:32] <MHz128> shoeunited, wrong user?
[08:32] <shoeunited> Possibly. lol
[08:33] <ziroday> shoeunited: you're talking to the wrong person :), NicEXE is the one with the problem
[08:33] <kalvin23> why cant i make a link of a folder from a external drive?
[08:33] <Mpole> Question: Ever since my last sudo apt-get update I have noticed that there is always a package manager working, indicated by the icon on the top right corner of the screen. But I have NOT started any package manager, so, how do I stop this one working in the background?
[08:33] <shoeunited> I'm probably too tired to be useful anymore >.<
[08:33] <MHz128> no worries, auto completion isn't that clever... hehe
[08:33] <sloopy> narzy, moving your home dir is a rather simple thing to do
[08:33] <ziroday> Mpole: that is just the update manager notification icon, the update manager isn't currently running
[08:34] <sloopy> narzy, its a matter of copying all data from old /home to new /home and then putting the new /home in /etc/fstab
[08:34] <NicEXE> ziroday: I can't login on GNOME session because there is a plugin that makes my PC crash when compiz is loading. so I must dissable compiz to be able to login using the GNOME session (then I can dissable that specific plugin)
[08:34] <bullgard4> What program can I use to edit the panel menubar?
[08:35] <ziroday> NicEXE: erm you can remove compiz and then reinstall it later
[08:35] <chilli0> Flannel Thanks
[08:35] <shoeunited> sloopy, I've had issue with that in the past.  some files get written with the wrong permissions.
[08:35] <musda> jakarta
[08:36] <napster> http://paste.ubuntu.com/93094/
[08:36] <NicEXE> ziroday: I will lose my configuration that way
[08:36] <narzy> ok so how do I do this
[08:36] <aboSamoor> I got this error while trying to compile ns2. ln: creating hard link `/media/sdb2/ns/ns-allinone-2.33/man/man3/Tk_Colormap.3' => `/media/sdb2/ns/ns-allinone-2.33/man/man3/Tk_WindowId.3': Operation not permitted
[08:36] <aboSamoor>  ?
[08:37] <sloopy> shoeunited, need to copy them in the right way, not just 'cp /home /new/home'
[08:37] <napster> http://paste.ubuntu.com/93094/    help please
[08:37] <narzy> the tutorial I was reading was all I had to boot from a live CD cause things couldn't be mounted
[08:37] <shoeunited> sloopy, I agree, but I figured narzy may need a little more explanation as I had goofed up before myself.
[08:38] <narzy> yes I need all the help I can get shoeunited
[08:38] <narzy> and sloopy
[08:38] <sloopy> using a liveCD makes it simple but best it to use single user mode and be root when you copy
[08:38] <narzy> but I want to live on the wild side and do it over SSH
[08:38] <napster> is there anyone who can help? please check it http://paste.ubuntu.com/93094/
[08:39] <Mpole> ziroday: but if i try to, say, install a package, i dont get permission, as the /var/bin/ is locked! something like that!
[08:39] <shoeunited> napster, which packages?
[08:39] <sloopy> narzy, still doable, i have done it with live login...
[08:39] <napster> I've no idea
[08:39] <napster> but its showing the error
[08:39] <sloopy> but not in ubuntu, in fedora...
[08:39] <napster> how i can check that which one is causing problem?
[08:39] <shoeunited> Oh, try #fedora
[08:40] <shoeunited> napster, wait is it happening in ubuntu or fedora?
[08:40] <skullsoup> can anyone help me install w64codecs and mplayer on ubuntu 8.10?
[08:40] <napster> Ubuntu
[08:40] <narzy> sloopy: probably the same the home folder is rather universal...
[08:40] <aboSamoor> can I make hard linking on vfat partition ?
[08:40] <napster> my fedora 10 is working great
[08:40] <sloopy> but should be about the same, since what we are working on doesnt really rely on anything distro specific
[08:40] <shoeunited> napster, open synaptic and use the broken package filter
[08:41] <narzy> so I have it on /dev/sdb right now and I want it on /dev/sda
[08:41] <narzy> and then everything to work right
[08:41] <sloopy> narzy, give a me sec i will look up the exact command
[08:41] <napster> ok let me check
[08:41] <dickinch15> just a dumb question is ubuntu unix are linux just curious
[08:42] <skullsoup> linux
[08:42] <napster> Another synaptic is running
[08:42] <napster> There is another synaptic running in non-interactive mode. Please wait for it to finish first.
[08:42] <dickinch15> thanks
[08:42] <musictoto> dickinch15 linux.
[08:42] <napster> I got this one now
[08:42] <dickinch15> thanks again
[08:42] <Mpole> ziroday: what terminal command can i run to show me - in detail - all running processes? i think kill will stop a process
[08:43] <shoeunited> napster, good :)
[08:43] <napster> how to solve?
[08:43] <shoeunited> napster, need to know what the packages are
[08:43] <NicEXE> how can I edit the startup configuration for GNOME session to use metacity instead of compiz?
[08:44] <shoeunited> NicEXE, are you in the session manager?
[08:44] <skullsoup> can anyone help me install w64codecs and mplayer on ubuntu 8.10?
[08:44] <napster> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libvlc0_0.9.8a+x264snapshot20080928+faad2.6.1+2-1~ppa1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libvlc.so.2.0.2', which is also in package libvlc2
[08:44] <Mpole> NicEXE: i think u can do that in your System / Preferences / Appearance
[08:44] <napster> here is the error
[08:44] <apparle> Whenever I copy data to a USB Flash Disk, it is copied very very slowly(about 200 to 400 kbps) why? in 8.04 it was normal. I am facing this problem ever since I installed 8.10
[08:45] <shoeunited> napster, so you were trying to install an updated version of vlc
[08:45] <Kalidarn> mm how do u clearsign with a particular key
[08:45] <Kalidarn> gpg --clearsign sample.txt
[08:45] <sloopy> narzy, mount the new home and use 'cp -axv /home /dev/newhome'
[08:45] <Kalidarn> won't let me specify a particular identity
[08:45] <napster> no just updating via update manager
[08:45] <Kalidarn> i did look at the man file and tried a few things
[08:45] <Kalidarn> but yeah
[08:45] <napster> as regular update
[08:46] <Kalidarn> im trying to sign the ubuntu code of conduct for the ppa :P i want it to use the right key ;)
[08:46] <sloopy> narzy, need to do that as root (i.e. as root login, or preferably prepend with sudo)
[08:46] <Kalidarn> guess i was spoilt by kgpg
[08:46] <Mpole> All: I am a noobie to Linux (running Ubuntu 8.014)
[08:46] <narzy> so I have to mount the new partition first...
[08:47] <narzy> how do I do that?
[08:47] <shoeunited> napster, can you do sudo dpkg --configure -a ?
[08:47] <NicEXE> @Mplole using the configuration files not any GUI tool @shoeumited no I am in mythbuntu session but I could logout if you want
[08:47] <napster> no
[08:47] <sloopy> narzy, have you partitioned and formatted it?
[08:47] <napster> let me check
[08:47] <narzy> I gparted it with ext3
[08:47] <MHz128> I've successfully compiles the latest ntfs-3g source, however apt-cache policy is still showing the older version...
[08:47] <sloopy> narzy, and what is its device name?
[08:48] <narzy> sda
[08:48] <sloopy> narzy, and partition?
[08:48] <narzy> just 1 big one...
[08:48] <Mpole> NicEXE: i think i will let more experienced users help you out on that one... lol
[08:49] <shoeunited> MHz128, in synaptic:  Settings -> Preferences -> Distrobution
[08:49] <skullsoup> can anyone help me install w64codecs and mplayer on ubuntu 8.10?
[08:49] <sloopy> narzy, 'sudo fdisk -l' (that is L not i) and what number is after /dev/sda
[08:49] <kholerabbi> Hey ould someone help me mount an external hard drive (usb)??
[08:50] <MHz128> shoeunited, oh ok, checkinstall seems to work
[08:50] <shoeunited> MHz128, good :)
[08:50] <kholerabbi> I'm using ubuntu 8.04
[08:50] <sloopy> narzy, uh wait a min, whats your / drive?
[08:51]  * shoeunited says to himself, if only there was a ticket system for irc.
[08:51] <MHz128> shoeunited, the new ntfs is much faster, woooo ;)
[08:51] <narzy> Disk /dev/sda1 doesn't contain a valid partition table
[08:51] <shoeunited> MHz128, awesome I'm glad for you. :)  I don't use ntfs though hehe
[08:51] <triggerhapp> Am i the only person unable to order from the canonical shop?
[08:51] <sloopy> narzy, put the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' in a pastebin
[08:52] <kholerabbi> I want to mount a usb hardd drive - maxtor brand
[08:52] <solid_liq> !ping
[08:52] <apparle> If I want a partition to accesible under windows> Which one should I choose NTFS of FAT32
[08:52] <narzy> http://pastebin.com/d7c4586a
[08:52] <Mpole> i ithink am going to get rid of compiz, it's conflicting with my syskernel, lol
[08:52] <sloopy> kholerabbi, it should mount automagically
[08:53] <Mpole> which i have already started removing!
[08:53] <kholerabbi> sloopy: OOOOhhh magic :)
[08:53] <shoeunited> apparle, fat32 is more stable as a sharing directory.  Though the reported chance of ntfs uncompressed unencrypted screwing up is low, it's still a risk to lose files.
[08:53] <kholerabbi> sloopy: afraid not though.
[08:53] <triggerhapp> brb all
[08:53] <kholerabbi> I'll restart?
[08:53] <sloopy> narzy, how is this machine booted? there should be other devices listed
[08:54] <MHz128> shoeunited, the UpdateManager is now telling me that the older version needs to be installed... how can I ignore this?
[08:54] <sloopy> kholerabbi, rebooting with it connected before boot will mount it, but automounter should be mounting it, if it has a valid fs on it
[08:54] <\Kira> how can I disable services from starting at boot?
[08:54] <\Kira> nessus takes FOREVER
[08:55] <napster> I've 1.7 Ghz 512 MB of Ram , 20 Gb of hard disk, laptop which one best work with it? ubuntu or fedora 10?
[08:55] <shoeunited> MHz128, in synaptic:  Settings -> Preferences -> Distrobution
[08:55] <\Kira> and its not even updating if it loads before I get interenet :|
[08:55] <sloopy> napster, which ever you are comfortable with
[08:55] <musictoto> kholerabbi: sloopy is right.  what filesystem is your drive ?
[08:55] <nbeebo> seems like my cd drive's burning capability isnt working... ive hear u can boot iso from the harddrive.. how?
[08:55] <nbeebo> heard*
[08:55] <\Kira> burn iso from harddrive?
[08:55] <\Kira> you mean boot off of a iso on the harddrive?
[08:56] <sloopy> musictoto, heh all this linux knowledge and i cant get a job in IT ;')
[08:56] <napster> I'm comfortable with ubuntu as well, as i like to work in Gnome than KDE
[08:56] <apparle> the data writing to USB flash disk is very slow, but it is normal in windows, what is the problem? It takes 20min to copy 500MB, where as in windows it takes 5 min
[08:56] <narzy> http://pastebin.com/d2c916c8c
[08:56] <shoeunited> MHz128, I have Always prefer Highest Version selected
[08:56] <narzy> wrong command
[08:56] <MHz128> cool
[08:56] <narzy> perhaps I need to reboot for it to see the new partition?
[08:56] <enzotib> \Kira, sudo update-rc.d service-name remove
[08:56] <\Kira> enzotib: thanks
[08:56] <\Kira> enzotib: is the service just called nessus?
[08:56] <napster> well i've used windows 6 year, so just feeling problem in using linux
[08:57] <Mpole> Compiz is removed, but it is still running... how do i terminate it?
[08:57] <enzotib> \Kira, you can check the filename in /etc/init.d
[08:57] <enzotib> Mpole, metacity --replace &
[08:57] <\Kira> enzotib: yeah, it got it. Thanks
[08:58] <sloopy> narzy, why is it booting from your sdb device instaed of sda?
[08:58] <napster> how i can improve my knowledge about linux?
[08:58] <Mpole> done! thanks!
[08:58] <narzy> cause that's the way the SATA is plugged in
[08:58] <sloopy> napster, hang here and read alot...
[08:58] <nbeebo> how u boot an iso from the hard drive? wanna install 8.10 but got no disc
[08:58] <shoeunited> napster, reading is one way.  I prefer a hands on approach.  there are books, cds, seminars
[08:59] <sloopy> narzy, ahh new drive (300GB) is sata and old(40GB) is pata?
[08:59] <shoeunited> napster, my way though, can cause a lot of frustration.  But the beauty of linux is, that when something breaks, you know it's something that you as the user did.
[08:59] <nbeebo> napster join #linux or #gentoo
[08:59] <narzy> no
[08:59] <Mpole> does anyone know anything about laptops? my compaq nx6110 has a problem with the hard drive connection, it has become loosened, so i have to remove it and reinstall it every time i want to boot. is there a permanent fix? it is a SATA drive.
[08:59] <napster> thanks buddies
[08:59] <narzy> one is on one controller and the other is on the other controller
[09:00] <napster> I think the hand on approach is the best way
[09:00] <gehel_> Hello ! Recently updated to 8.10. When using f-spot, I cant find where to select a fixed-ratio for selection. Any idea ?
[09:00] <NicEXE> how can I delete the "Area Zoom" plugin for compiz?
[09:00] <napster> Books cds and this community
[09:00] <musictoto> kholerabbi: open a terminal window and type 'sudo fdisk -l' withouth the quotes
[09:00] <enzotib> nbeebo, i suggest to boot up from usb, there are some wiki pages about it
[09:01] <\Kira> while running this one program that takes little memory, it manages to slow down my computer gradually and bring it to a full halt.... How could I find info about whats doing this??? Becuase it works fine on all my other systems
[09:01] <musictoto> kholerabbi: with your external hard drive attached to your computer
[09:01] <wellbug> hellp  every one
[09:01] <wellbug> hello
[09:01] <\Kira> hi
[09:01] <Mpole> well, until we meet again, have a great time everyone. Happy New Year 2009!
[09:01] <nbeebo> enzotib alright ill look for them
[09:01] <\Kira> BYE
[09:01] <sloopy> narzy, connected to pci and or pcix cards? or on mobo?
[09:01] <kholerabbi> sloopy, musictoto: my usb hdd is listed as /dev/sdb1 - could you tell me how to mount it?
[09:01] <narzy> on mobo
[09:02] <shoeunited> Hi wellbug
[09:02] <chalcedony> Kira: it might not be giving back memory, have you tried watching top while it's running?
[09:02] <kholerabbi> it's unrecignised file system (which Is fine if I can just format it)
[09:02] <musictoto> kholerabbi: ok now check what filesystem it is: hfs/ntfs/fat ...
[09:02] <musictoto> kholerabbi: ok lol :D
[09:02] <wellbug> hi  shoeunited
[09:02] <sloopy> kholerabbi, mkdir /media/usbdrive ; mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usbdrive
[09:02] <musictoto> kholerabbi, sloopy: yep that's right
[09:03] <wellbug> do you in ubuntu?
[09:03] <sfer21> !ask | wellbug
[09:03] <musictoto> sloopy: you're typing too fast for me :D
[09:03] <sloopy> narzy, so boot drive (the 40GB) is connected to mobo pata, and the 300GB is connected to mobo sata?
[09:03] <narzy> no, both are SATA
[09:04] <narzy> one is on an Intel controller and one is on a Promise controller
[09:04] <sloopy> musictoto, heh and 25 years in computer use i still havnt gotten around to learn how to touch type...
[09:04] <sloopy> narzy, both on mobo?
[09:04] <narzy> yes
[09:04] <shoeunited> touch type.  we were forced to learn that.
[09:04] <musictoto> sloopy: hehe, i did after 4 years ;)
[09:04] <musictoto> kholerabbi: does it work ?
[09:05] <shoeunited> I've got the keyboard memorized.  as long as I can find f & j I'm good to go.
[09:05] <musictoto> shoeunited: yeah that's what it is about, right :D
[09:06] <kholerabbi> musictoto: Iol: I do the above in terminal (with or without sudo) and get 'Cannot create directory... Only root can do that...
[09:06] <sloopy> i use a very fast hunt and peck, in college (the second time) i annoyed alot of people in typeing class, 40wpm with 0 mistakes... but then i am looking at the kb
[09:06] <musictoto> kholerabbi: your sudo command should do it :s
[09:06] <sloopy> kholerabbi, put a 'sudo' on the
[09:07] <kholerabbi> sloopy: yeah I did. same result :P
[09:07] <narzy> ok so where do I go from here sloopy ?
[09:07] <shoeunited> sloopy, lol nice IDK about wpm but I do know that I do ~9000kph with 0 errors (I've had to test for some jobs)
[09:08] <kholerabbi> sloopy: musictoto: ah. I forgot to put sudo after the ; for the second line :P.........
[09:08] <musictoto> :)
[09:08] <kholerabbi> Inow it asks me to specify a file system type
[09:08] <sloopy> kholerabbi, the mkdir only needs to be done once
[09:08] <dickinch15> lol ubuntu  works great my biggest prolbem is figuring out how to get the 3d box cube to work
[09:08] <sloopy> kholerabbi, is there a fs on it (i.e. have you formatted the drive?)
[09:09] <musictoto> sloopy: he has unrecognised fs
[09:09] <sloopy> musictoto, then probly not
[09:09] <kholerabbi> I'd like to just wipe it
[09:09] <musictoto> sloopy: yes
[09:09] <kholerabbi> use ext3 or soemthing
[09:09] <sloopy> kholerabbi, mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1
[09:09] <lwizardl> anyone know of a video editor with gui that will let me cut out sections of video?
[09:09] <lwizardl> for linux
[09:10] <sloopy> narzy, this machine has booted with no problems with the 300gb as sda and the boot drive as sbb?
[09:10] <sloopy> err sdb
[09:10] <musictoto> kholerabbi: if you want to be able to use that drive on windows/mac too, you'd better use another fs
[09:10] <shiMMer> i cant run ksimet on ubuntu 8.10.i install it from repos.i cant run kismet..
[09:10] <narzy> yeah
[09:10] <shoeunited> lwizardl, Avidemux (GTK+)
[09:10] <narzy> I'm a computer gawd like that
[09:10] <narzy> it's done in bios
[09:10] <sloopy> narzy, ok is it formatted?
[09:10] <narzy> yes
[09:10] <narzy> rebooted the system
[09:10] <imaginen1> )
[09:10] <narzy> now it is ext3
[09:10] <sloopy> narzy, is it mounted?
[09:11] <narzy> no
[09:11] <narzy> how should I mount it?
[09:11] <kholerabbi> musictoto: nah not at all. although I might partition of a section for that... I was thinking on installing intrepid on it--
[09:11] <musictoto> kholerabbi: yes, then ext3 will do
[09:11] <sloopy> narzy, make a mount point sudo mkdir /mnt/temp
[09:12] <musictoto> kholerabbi: but not for the win/mac partition
[09:12] <musictoto> kholerabbi: that should be ntfs
[09:12] <sloopy> narzy, then mount it 'mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/temp
[09:12] <narzy> done
[09:13] <musictoto> kholerabbi: post back if it works
[09:13] <sloopy> narzy, 'sudo cp -axv /home /mnt/temp'
[09:14] <shoeunited> I guess I have a question.  How do I update to an alpha build?  Yes I want to get to the unstable version.  And then, if possible downgrade to intrepid.  I know you may wonder why, and if you ask I'll tell you.
[09:14] <narzy> done
[09:14] <Flannel> shoeunited: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty questions, thanks
[09:15] <shoeunited> ty Flannel :)
[09:15] <apparle> Can I connect directly to a computer using Windows XP just by connect a LAN wire between the two computer
[09:15] <shiMMer> how can i know what wireless driver im using??
[09:15] <ramon> i am having problem playing videos in flash...flashplugin is installed but wont play...what should i do?
[09:15] <sfer21> apparle: might want a different cable
[09:15] <narzy> now that it is reloacted what do  ido?
[09:15] <kholerabbi> musictoto: sloopy: thank you :)
[09:16] <musictoto> kholerabbi: did you manage to mount it ?
[09:16] <sloopy> kholerabbi, no prob, give me a job ;')
[09:16] <kholerabbi> I'll make a few partition than see how well intrepid runs from it
[09:16] <Kalidarn> hey do i have to wait for my account to be manually verified or something
[09:17] <Kalidarn> i just uploaded packages to my ppa (after creating a new account)
[09:17] <kholerabbi> sloopy: On day in the Far Off Golden Future when I'm not 18-- I'll remember you
[09:17] <musictoto> kholerabbi: cool, good luck
[09:17] <Kalidarn> and i can't see them in there
[09:17] <kholerabbi> unless of course I forget :P
[09:17] <Kalidarn> but it said it was successful
[09:17] <Kalidarn> also http://ppa.launchpad.net/dcecchin/ubuntu gives me a 404
[09:17] <Kartagis> do I need to do apt-get install or something else to obtain the sources for kernel?
[09:18] <Kalidarn> oh hang on it got rejected :(
[09:18] <narzy> sloopy?
[09:19] <shoeunited> apparle, you will need at least a crossover lan cable, as a regular lan cable won't work like that.  You can also use a router, or a network hub with appropriate lan cables.
[09:20] <sloopy> kholerabbi, heh
[09:20] <badcat> seasons greetings everyone.
[09:20] <sloopy> narzy, yes?
[09:20] <enzotib> Kartagis, install linux-source
[09:20] <Paolo88> Hi
[09:20] <narzy> I RAN That command
[09:20] <narzy> its done
[09:20] <sloopy> then it is mounted?
[09:20] <narzy> so now how do i tell linux to use the new /home folder location
[09:20] <narzy> yes
[09:20] <sloopy> and copied?
[09:20] <narzy> yes
[09:20] <shiMMer> any1 can help me with kismet??
[09:21] <NicEXE> if I uninstall compiz and the I install it again do I loose my configuration?
[09:21] <sloopy> ok you know how to use vim?
[09:21] <sloopy> or vi
[09:21] <narzy> pico
[09:21] <narzy> I like pico
[09:21] <lwizardl> i like nano
[09:21] <narzy> or gedit
[09:21] <sloopy> ok   'sudo pico /etc/fstab'
[09:22] <Paolo88> I have installed on my intrepid 64 bit ubuntu-restricted-extras. flash and java are ok, but whene I open firefox  the two bars of gnome go out. Anyone can help me?
[09:22] <Kartagis> use vim
[09:22] <narzy> ok
[09:22] <narzy> vim is a pita
[09:22] <deutsch1988> hello. I can speack ,german,rus, turk and azeri. Please help me in ubuntu
[09:22] <narzy> I'd have to bust out my cheat sheet again
[09:23] <narzy> I know its better and such
[09:23] <Kartagis> !de | deutsch1988
[09:23] <narzy> so I have the file open in pcio
[09:23] <NicEXE> if I uninstall compiz and the I install it again do I loose my configuration?
[09:23] <badcat> newbie needs help! i keep getting an error msg when i run my update manager. here's the error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/93107/ anyone got any advice?
[09:23] <Kartagis> NicEXE, not if you use --purge
[09:24] <shiMMer> any1 can run kismet on ubuntu 8.10 properly?????
[09:24] <enzotib> NicEXE, not if you don't use --purge
[09:24] <onetinsoldier> hehe
[09:24] <deutsch1988> thans
[09:24] <apparle> When I boot on windows XP and I connect a regular lan cable the network is connected I can use various Windows utilties for file sharing.
[09:25] <sloopy> narzy, put these in the fields '/dev/sda1     /home  auto auto  0 0'
[09:25] <apparle> But when I boot from linux the network does not connect
[09:25] <TIRC_6414> !lista
[09:25] <kholerabbi> hey sloopy, wonder if you could help?: there was a lost+found directory under my usb drive, which I 'rmdir'... but that doesn't seem to have freed any space. It says 9.7 gbs are being used..?
[09:25] <sloopy> IIRC there are tabs between fields
[09:25] <enzotib> badcat, want you update from cdrom or from network?
[09:26] <sloopy> kholerabbi, yes, i am at work and need to go so cant explain, but the lost+found dir is fine, and the used space is normal
[09:26] <kholerabbi> sloopy: cheers
[09:26] <damo> i am having a problem with xchat, somtimes when i click on a option xchat closes on me.....
[09:27] <dios_mio> why wont the NetWork Admin program wont have any effect when I change from dhcp to static IP?
[09:27] <shoeunited> Damo?
[09:27] <shoeunited> sorry probably not the same person.
[09:28] <damo> nope
[09:28] <damo> lol
[09:29] <Kartagis> damo, #xchat
[09:29] <narzy> in what fields
[09:29] <deutsch1988> what news?
[09:31] <apparle> shoeunited: when I boot from Windows XP I can use file sharing but when I boot linux it is not connected. Why
[09:31] <sloopy> narzy, in the fields in /etc/fstab
[09:31] <narzy> ok done
[09:31] <sloopy> save, quit, reboot
[09:31] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: howdy
[09:32] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, hi
[09:32] <onetinsoldier> :-)
[09:32] <Kartagis> i am running an out of the box kernel. can i obtain a .config for that?
[09:33] <sloopy> <- is just a pixelated display ;')
[09:33] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: yes, it's in /boot
[09:33] <Kartagis> apparle, install sambe
[09:33] <Kartagis> samba*
[09:34] <narzy> I've installed samba but it doesnt show up in my network places
[09:34] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: for instance, mine would is /boot/config-2.6.27-11-generic (just copy and rename that file to .config)
[09:34] <sloopy> narzy, need to config? /etc/samba/smb.conf ?
[09:34] <onetinsoldier> mine is*
[09:34] <deutsch1988> the server you can hack via c99.php or r57.php web sheller safe mdoe on or off :D
[09:35] <Paolo88> my pc not supported the scaling cpu.I have a intel quadcore
[09:36] <narzy> is there an easy way to do it
[09:36] <narzy> I just want one big shared folder
[09:36] <deutsch1988> Paolo88> bravo for you pc :))))) i have corel dual 2.2 )))
[09:36] <narzy> that everyone can do anything to...
[09:38] <deutsch1988> tis ubuntu serverf?
[09:38] <darkweasel> how do i reset the play count of all songs in rhythmbox? without having to import it again..
[09:39] <Paolo88> deutsch1988: thanks
[09:41] <skullsoup> can anyone help me install w64codecs and mplayer on ubuntu 8.10? i have tried   http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-mplayer-and-multimedia-codecs-libdvdcss2w32codecsw64codecs-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html but didnt work
[09:41] <sloopy> narzy, google sample smb.conf
[09:41] <sloopy> ok i am done work in 20 mins so have to do finishing paper work, night all
[09:41] <sloopy> or mourning
[09:42] <narzy> k
[09:42] <narzy> thanks
[09:42] <narzy> have one problem tho
[09:42] <sloopy> ?
[09:42] <narzy>  I have a nested home folter now
[09:42] <Seomah> hi someone can tell me how to change the screen resolution? tx
[09:42] <narzy> the path is now /home/home/time
[09:42] <narzy> err /home/home/tim
[09:42] <\Kira> My computer is frozen. I can ssh into it and it reacts with fine speed, but im the only user logged in (my ssh terminal). The account thats frozen isnt even logged in and wont respond when I type stuff on the machine locally. Anyone have any ideas how to fix it?
[09:43] <narzy> so how do I fix that?
[09:43] <sloopy> narzy, mv /home/home /home
[09:43] <enzotib> \Kira, restart gdm
[09:44] <\Kira> enzotib: thanks! I was thinking I would have to restart the machine :(
[09:44] <sloopy> narzy, i will be home in ~1 hour from now, i will be around if you dont get it fixed
[09:44] <enzotib> \Kira, i cannot say it that resolve your problem
[09:44] <onetinsoldier> skullsoup: did you try this method ?  -->  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu   ...perhaps you don't thave the keyring yet. i'ver evert everything you did and follow the instructions on that web page
[09:45] <Kartagis> i did sudo apt-get install linux-source but when i did make menuconfig, it said fatal error: opening dependency file scripts/basic/.fixdep.d: Permission denied. when i browsed to scripts/basic/, the file is not there. what to do?
[09:45] <narzy> mv: inter-device move failed: `/home/home' to `/home'; unable to remove target: Is a directory
[09:45] <\Kira> enzotib: well, its a better shot than shutting it down...
[09:45] <onetinsoldier> skullsoup: i'd revert*
[09:46] <deutsch1988> this is US chat or Ubuntu chat? what is that?
[09:46] <\Kira> deutsch1988: this is the english ubuntu support channel
[09:46] <enzotib> narzy, it is a separate partition?
[09:46] <\Kira> deutsch1988: there is support channels for many other languages
[09:47] <Seomah> i need to put my desktop in 1024x768-can someone help me?
[09:47] <narzy> yes
[09:47] <enzotib> narzy, how it is mounted?
  you can then help me?
[09:47] <\Kira> deutsch1988: it depends on the question
[09:47] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: i've never ran into that before. do you have the build-eesential package installed?
[09:47] <narzy> the boot partition is /dev/sdb1 it is mounted /mnt/tmp
[09:48] <narzy> or something
[09:48] <deutsch1988> :S
[09:48] <Kartagis> let me see oneseventeen|afk
[09:48] <Kartagis> onetinsoldier*
[09:48] <MrEgg964> Merry X-Mas to all :) I'm looking to reconfigure the network and mount system packages on Intrepid. What are the names of the packages I should be looking for?
[09:48] <deutsch1988> \Kira you can help me to scan the dial up modem?
[09:48] <skullsoup> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[09:48] <\Kira> deutsch1988: ask your question, if someone knows the answer, they will answer you
[09:48] <narzy>   !/dev/sda1 on /home type ext3 (rw)
  private
[09:48] <\Kira> deutsch1988: scan your dial up modem?
[09:48] <enzotib> Kartagis, Permission denied is different from No file found, are you sure it is not there?
[09:48] <Kartagis> onetinsoldier, i have it installed
[09:48] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: i yypo's...as usual, it;s   build-essential
  come in privaet
[09:49] <Kartagis> enzotib, yed
[09:49] <Kartagis> yes*
[09:49] <enzotib> narzy, mv /home/home/* /home
[09:49] <Kartagis> onetinsoldier, i have it installed
[09:50] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: roger, i'm really not sure, perhaps you don't have the proper ncurses stuff installed, one sec
[09:51] <narzy> um now I don't have a home folder any more!
[09:51] <narzy> tim@media:/$ cd ~
[09:51] <narzy> -bash: cd: /home/tim: No such file or directory
[09:52] <enzotib> narzy, have you executed my command?
[09:52] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: what is the output of the following command?
[09:53] <abhii> how to completely remove mutt,i have a problem so need to re install
[09:53] <enzotib> abhii, sudo apt-get purge mutt
[09:53] <Kartagis> abhii, sudo apt-get purge mutt
[09:53] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: dpkg -l '*ncurses*' | awk '/^ii/ {print $2}'
[09:53] <abhii> i could'nt locate original files of muttrc
[09:53] <nbeebo> or reconfigure
[09:53] <abhii> k i'll try
[09:53] <nbeebo> instead of purge
[09:54] <enzotib> nbeebo, you also need to remove some private config dir in your home folder, i think
[09:54] <abhii> ya those things i completed,i had problems wid certificates!!!
[09:54] <nbeebo> enzotib oh ok, good to know thanks
[09:55] <Kartagis> onetinsoldier, http://paste.ubuntu.com/93114/
[09:55] <phone> im a phone
[09:55] <phone> talk into the mouthpiece
[09:56] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: i don't think it's going to make any difference, but i also have the -dev installed for libncursesw5
[09:56] <phone> Kartagis: i don't think it's going to make any difference, but i also have the -dev installed for libncursesw5
[09:56] <Kartagis> !ot| phone
[09:56] <phone> !ot| phone
[09:56] <phone> phone: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!
[09:57] <Flannel> phone: Please stop
[09:57] <phone> phone, please see my private message
[09:57] <phone> phone: Please stop
[09:57] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: could you also pastebin the error you're getting when you do the make menuconfig?
[09:57] <badcat> enzotib, hey there, i update directly from the net.
[09:58] <Kartagis> oneseventeen|afk, i have the -dev installed too
[09:58] <enzotib> good, badcat
[09:58] <Kartagis> oh sorry, i don't
[09:58] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: ok, how about this one?  ncurses-term
[09:59] <randhol> hi. Anybody here has experience with ISDN? Ubuntu 8.10 doesn't give me ISDN net
[09:59] <badcat> enzotib, any ideas how i can get rid of the error msg? http://paste.ubuntu.com/93107/
[09:59] <Kartagis> onetinsoldier, http://paste.ubuntu.com/93115/
[09:59] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: make sure you install ncurses-term
[10:00] <deutsch1988> please my friend help em to scan my dial up modem
[10:00] <enzotib> badcat, you have to disable the cdrom repo from your sources.list, peraphs trough synaptic
[10:00] <dragon_flam> any good site to download english mp3 songs
[10:00] <dragon_flam> even in real media would do
[10:00] <randhol> badcat, go to system and change sources
[10:01] <deutsch1988> please my friend help em to scan my dial up modem
[10:01] <deutsch1988> please my friend help em to scan my dial up modem
[10:01] <deutsch1988> please my friend help em to scan my dial up modem
[10:01] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: ok, it's a permission problem, perhaps you just need to be root to do the make menuconfig
[10:01] <FloodBot1> deutsch1988: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:01] <badcat> enzotib, will do. thanks
[10:01] <randhol> dragon_flam: http://trash80.net/
[10:01]  * Kartagis bangs head on the wall
[10:01] <enzotib> Kartagis, or expand the source tar-ball in a folder in your home dir
[10:02] <Gumby> does anyone here know if xchat-gnome has the ability to be displayed/minimized/closed to the system tray like normal xchat?
[10:02] <Kartagis> I didn't use sudo
[10:02]  * Kartagis bangs head on the wall and cries
[10:02] <randhol> nobody know mISDN? My card works in good old Debian, but in Ubuntu no luck :(
[10:02] <Kartagis> oh god, it's bleeding
[10:02] <dragon_flam> whts this trash80
[10:03] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: roger... working ok now?
[10:03] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: bleeding?
[10:03] <randhol> dragon_flam: go to the web page and listen to the music
[10:03] <damien> join #edev
[10:03] <Kartagis> onetinsoldier, my head, i just banged it against the wall because I forgot to use sudo
[10:04] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: oh! i see. well, perhaps you feel and know you're alive with a little blood coming out now. hehe
[10:06] <deutsch1988> my firnd s please help me in ubuntu :(
[10:07] <narzy> yes I did
[10:07] <narzy> I don't have a /home folder
[10:07] <narzy> tim@media:/$ cd ~
[10:07] <narzy> -bash: cd: /home/tim: No such file or directory
[10:07] <enzotib> narzy, ls -l /home what shows?
[10:07] <Slart> deutsch1988: try to explain your problem.. ask questions that make sense.. or use one of the channels that can help you in your own language
[10:08] <Rioting_pacifist> i want to install a vm to watch how a program behaves under windows (file access, network access, etc) which of the VMs is best for this, im under the impression virtualbox is generally pretty good but the networking might be tricky is that correct?
[10:08] <narzy> drwx------ 3 root root 16384 2008-12-26 01:49 lost+found
[10:08] <Slart> deutsch1988: and keep the "pretty pliiiiiz help me" stuff to a minimum
[10:08] <Slart> !pm | deutsch1988
[10:08] <enzotib> narzy, you said you have /home/home, where is now?
[10:09] <narzy> gone
[10:09] <narzy> along with /home/home/tim
[10:09] <narzy> which was my home folder!
[10:09] <deutsch1988> no help me???:@:@:@:@
[10:09] <andrea> andry
[10:10] <enzotib> narzy, the command mv /home/home/* /home gave you some errors?
[10:10] <Slart> deutsch1988: what is the problem?
[10:10] <Slart> deutsch1988: just explain it
[10:10] <onetinsoldier> Slart: sounds like he needs his ppp set up
[10:10] <deutsch1988> hre have boys help me in Linux ubunto to scan the dial up modem?
[10:10] <bazhang> !modem > deutsch1988
[10:11] <Slart> onetinsoldier: mm..I think so too..
[10:11] <narzy> yes
[10:11] <enzotib> narzy, and can you show me that errors?
[10:13] <narzy> enzotib:
[10:13] <narzy> http://pastebin.com/d38eb1b19
[10:13] <Ash-Fox> Can somebody tell me where I can get the ext2 defrag tool is? I can't seem to find it in Ubuntu distros.
[10:14] <Slart> Ash-Fox: I think there was one a long time ago but it was killing more file systems than it helped
[10:14] <onetinsoldier> Ash-Fox: well, have you tried to google for it?
[10:14] <Gnea> Ash-Fox: defrag is a microsoft filesystem-based thing, not a *nix fs based thing.
[10:14] <Ash-Fox> onetinsoldier, yes, and posts about how defrag isn't needed wasn't useful.
[10:15] <enzotib> narzy, you do a lot of errors typing command ppl say you in this channel, be more precise, you can corrupt your installation this way
[10:15] <Ash-Fox> Gnea, there is a defrag tool for ext2 filesystems.
[10:15] <onetinsoldier> Ash-Fox: see Slart message about t whyit's probably not included ^^
[10:15] <Slart> Ash-Fox: I haven't seen anything new since that one.. just don't fill your ext3 volumes up and it will be fine
[10:15] <Ash-Fox> Gnea, and even the ext filesysetms suffer from fragmentation.
[10:15] <narzy> oops
[10:15] <narzy> so how do i fix this?
[10:15] <Ash-Fox> Slart, I'm looking for the tool, not advice on how to use ext3.
[10:15] <narzy> create a new user>
[10:15] <narzy> ?
[10:16] <Gnea> Ash-Fox: if you know about it, why ask?
[10:16] <enzotib> narzy, i think your /home is yet in /home, you can see that if you unmount the partition /home
[10:16] <Ash-Fox> Gnea, because unlike other distributions, it isn't available in ubuntu's repositories.
[10:16] <narzy> how do I unmount it?
[10:16] <enzotib> narzy, sudo umount /home
[10:17] <Gnea> Ash-Fox: this is true.
[10:17] <enzotib> narzy, and next ls -l /home, make me see
[10:17] <Ash-Fox> Gnea, it's even in Slackware - it just baffles me /why/ it's not there.
[10:17] <Gnea> Ash-Fox: so what's this defrag program called and where is it normally found?
[10:17] <Ash-Fox> It's called 'defrag' or 'defrag2'
[10:17] <Ash-Fox> /usr/sbin/
[10:18] <narzy> drwxr-xr-x 27 tim tim 4096 2008-12-26 01:21 tim
[10:18] <Gnea> Ash-Fox: who wrote it? url?
[10:18] <Ash-Fox> I have no idea.
[10:18] <narzy> if I unmounted home and it is still there...
[10:18] <minterior> hi people! how can I get the text betwen two double quotes? With mawk or sed?
[10:18] <Ash-Fox> I don't go memorizing --version strings.
[10:18] <narzy> wth?
[10:19] <enzotib> narzy, ok, mv /home/tim /tim
[10:19] <deutsch1988> I have scan the dial up modem, whar is the next step? please heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp
[10:19] <Gnea> Ash-Fox: then I suggest you not ask offtopic questions
[10:19] <narzy> permission denied
[10:19] <enzotib> narzy, sudo mv /home/tim /tim
[10:20] <Gnea> but hey
[10:20] <narzy> done
[10:20] <Gnea> !defrag
[10:20] <Ash-Fox> Gnea, it's not offtopic. I'm asking where the hell the application is
[10:20] <deutsch1988> I have scan the dial up modem, whar is the next step? please heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp
[10:20] <bazhang> Ash-Fox, defrag has not been updated since 1997
[10:20] <enzotib> narzy, now mount you home partition: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /home
[10:20] <bazhang> Ash-Fox, it is no longer under development and will more than likely cause damage to your system
[10:21] <Ash-Fox> bazhang, great :/
[10:21] <Gnea> Ash-Fox: for one thing, your language is not welcome here. for a second thing, if it's not in the repositories, it's not supported, and thus, offtopic.
[10:21] <narzy> done
[10:21] <deutsch1988_> I have scan the dial up modem, whar is the next step? please heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp
[10:21] <bazhang> !info e2fsprogs
[10:21] <onetinsoldier> deutsch1988_: have yo run pppconfig yet?
[10:22] <Ash-Fox> Gnea, I have added you to ignore, becaus so far, you've been antagonizing me with your lack of knowledge on the matter, claiming false truths on a matter you did not investigate.
[10:22] <enzotib> narzy, now: sudo mv /tim /home
[10:22] <bazhang> Ash-Fox, please lose the attitude
[10:22] <deutsch1988_> i have scan the modem . I have install the pppconfig buth help me to scan the modem and find the driver
[10:22] <Solarium> Good morning gents
[10:22] <Gnea> Ash-Fox: An excellent decision.
[10:22] <Solarium> a little question, can i use visual effects with a 2d driver ? :)
[10:22] <onetinsoldier> Solarium: hoedy
[10:23] <narzy> done
[10:23] <Gnea> narzy?
[10:23] <narzy> yes
[10:23] <Gnea> narzy: why do you keep saying 'done'?
[10:23] <Slart> Solarium: I don't think so
[10:23] <ramon> ok i did a mess with the playing video on the web browser (flash)...may i have a suggestion to start over from begining?
[10:23] <enzotib> narzy, now: cd, and see it you see any error
[10:23] <narzy> no error
[10:23] <enzotib> ok narzy
[10:23] <minterior> somebody knows how can I get the text betwen two double quotes? With mawk or sed?
[10:23] <Gnea> nevermind.
[10:24] <Solarium> Slart, man :D you keep giving me nothing bad bad news
[10:24] <narzy> following instructions Gnea
[10:24] <Gnea> narzy: :)
[10:24] <Solarium> Slart, :)
[10:24] <Slart> Solarium: yes.. I seem to be doing that a lot this morning =)
[10:24] <Gnea> minterior: what do you mean, 'get the text'? with a regexp?
[10:24] <Slart> Solarium: there's no 3d support for your video card?
[10:24] <Solarium> Slart, nope
[10:24] <minterior> Gnea: yes
[10:25] <Slart> Solarium: the new via chip?
[10:25] <Solarium> Slart, gonna go play with cairo dock then
[10:25] <Solarium> Slart, no i got the sis curse
[10:25] <enzotib> narzy, is it all ok? is this you would accomplish?
[10:25] <minterior> i have: blabla "text inside quotes" blabla, and I need the output: text inside quotes
[10:25] <Slart> Solarium: ouch
[10:25] <narzy> rebooting to dbl check but I think it is fixed
[10:25] <narzy> you did good
[10:25] <Gnea> minterior: cat file.txt | sed -e 's/thissentenceisbroken/this\ sentence\ is\ broken/g'
[10:25] <deutsch1988_> please one men help me to scan my dial up modem.please ,where the live??? help me
[10:25] <Solarium> Slart, indeed hehe
[10:26] <narzy> perfect!
[10:26] <enzotib> ok narzy
[10:26] <narzy> how can I check available drive space?
[10:26] <Kartagis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1021936&highlight=earphones <--- can you help me with this?
[10:26] <enzotib> narzy, df
[10:26] <minterior> Gnea: sorry, the text inside the quotes is variable
[10:26] <carlosz> SOME ONE SPEAK SPANISH ?
[10:26] <sfer21> !repeat | deutsc1988_
[10:26] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto deutsch1988_ please read carefully
[10:26] <Slart> !es | carlosz
[10:27] <carlosz> I NEED HELP
[10:27] <Gnea> !caps | carlosz
[10:27] <bazhang> carlosz, /j #ubuntu-es
[10:27] <Slart> minterior: can't you use grep instead of sed?
[10:27] <carlosz> how instal oppen ofice 3.0
[10:27] <onetinsoldier> deutsch1988_: have you run pppconfig yet? is that how you scanned the modem?
[10:27] <carlosz> in ubuntu 8.10
[10:28] <Gnea> minterior: that shouldn't matter, a \ will escape any whitespace in any case
 yes I have scan the modem
[10:28] <bazhang> deutsch1988_, lets keep this in channel; please answer the questions being asked of you
 I have sxan the modem what is the next step ???
[10:28] <enzotib> minterior, sed -e 's/^[^"]*"//' -e 's/"[^"]*$//'
[10:28] <onetinsoldier> deutsch1988_: try...   ifup ppp0
[10:28] <deutsch1988_> bazhang you can help me
[10:29] <bazhang> carlosz, you need to either wait for possible backports or install from a ppa
[10:29] <deutsch1988_> onetinsoldier what is the command?
[10:29] <onetinsoldier> deutsch1988_:  ifup ppp0
[10:29] <minterior> enzotib: yes!!!! thank you!!! this is!
[10:29] <minterior> Gnea: thanks you too ;)
[10:29] <deutsch1988_> onetinsoldier this error comming ifup: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied
[10:29] <onetinsoldier> deutsch1988_: sudo ifup ppp0
[10:29] <Gnea> minterior: cheers
[10:29] <abhii> while setting up mutt i apparently deleted certificates gmail,so how to un-install and again reinstall
[10:30] <deutsch1988_> onetinsoldier this error comming ifup: Ignoring unknown interface ppp0=ppp0.
[10:30] <Gnea> abhii: aptitude reinstall certificates
[10:30] <abhii> k wil try it
[10:30] <deutsch1988_> onetinsoldier yuo can help em to step to step?
[10:30] <onetinsoldier> deutsch1988_: roger, i'm not sure. been very many years since i dealt with ppp
[10:30] <Gnea> Ash-Fox: it's too bad you put me on ignore, because i found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=169551
[10:31] <carlosz> thanks
[10:31] <deutsch1988_> onetinsoldier  you can help em step to step to scan the dial up modem?
[10:31] <deutsch1988_> onetinsoldier please I send you modedata.txt pelase shw this
[10:32] <deutsch1988_> have no live mens to help me to scan my dial up modem? what live is this? what support is that?
[10:33] <deutsch1988_> onetinsoldier you have show the my modemdata.txt file?
[10:33] <bazhang> deutsch1988_, we are volunteers. you need to be patient.
[10:33] <deutsch1988_> onetinsoldier  what??? understand
[10:33] <Slart> minterior: try this sed -r 's/.*\"(.*)".*/\1/'
[10:33] <Slart> aww.. he left
[10:34] <Gnea> deutsch1988_: there's a difference between paid support and free support.
[10:34] <onetinsoldier> deutsch1988_: you might have a 'windmodem' that's not supported. i don't know, i don't know that i can help really
[10:34] <deutsch1988_> onetinsoldier  linux can no run winmodem???
[10:34] <ortsvorsteher> deutsch1988_: hast du es schon mal im deutschen channel versucht?
[10:34] <eth01> hrm Gnea ... ?
[10:34] <Gnea> eth01: what?
[10:34] <Gnea> !winmodem | deutsch1988_
 nimand is dort ...
[10:34] <Paolo88> i must uninstall java plugin for firefox 64 bit for install a java not of sun, what is the packege that I must remove?
[10:35] <deutsch1988_> i can speak german,rus, turk and azeri
[10:35] <Gnea> !de | deutsch1988_
[10:35] <eth01> great - so whats the problem?
 what understans ???
[10:35] <Gnea> deutsch1988_: since you can't speak english very well, I suggest you /join #ubuntu-de
[10:35] <onetinsoldier> deutsch1988_:  LSI/Agere 11c11040 modem chip ... At http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/11c11040/ there may be a package with precompiled drivers with your Kernel-version in its name.
[10:35] <abhii> certificates got installed but,/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt is empty,how to get contents of certificates into it?
[10:36] <misha_> deutsch1988 IN russian write me what you want
[10:36] <deutsch1988_> i can no run my modem????
[10:36] <Gnea> !ru | deutsch1988_
[10:36] <ortsvorsteher> deutsch1988_: ein paar sind schon da, hab gerade geschaut. hast du im wiki nachgesehen wie du ein modem zum fliegen bekommst?
[10:37] <onetinsoldier> deutsch1988_: it looks like you rmodem is not normally supported in the linux kernel. you'd need to manually download and install the driver for it
[10:37] <deutsch1988_> ortsvorsteher ya aber niamnd kann helfen,ich habe scan modem gemacht es finden aber wie soll ich das modem instaliren ich meine driver
[10:37] <onetinsoldier> s/rmodem/modem
[10:37] <Jakob_the_Liar> how can i get flash and mpd to be able to use the same card?
 I can run my dial up modem on linux? yes or no?
[10:37] <Slart> Jakob_the_Liar: use pulseaudio
[10:37] <abhii> certificates got installed but,/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt is empty,how to get contents of certificates into it?i deleted those,so how to fix it?
[10:37] <ortsvorsteher> deutsch1988_: und wiki.ubuntuusers.de konnte dir bei deinem modem nicht helfen?
[10:37] <eth01> !topic | deutsch1988_
 what ru?
[10:38] <brijin> :)
 warte mal kannst du mir hekfen?
[10:38] <Gnea> deutsch1988_: Wenn Sie dies lesen können, dann bedeutet dies, dass Sie kann nicht verstehen, die Sprache Englisch. Bitte besuchen Sie die # ubuntu-de-Kanal und um Hilfe bitten, da, wie Sie Ihre wiederholten Forderungen nach Hilfe hier nicht willkommen sind. Wenn Sie nicht warten, können wir nicht helfen können. Danke.
[10:38] <Slart> Jakob_the_Liar: I think you can do some magic with alsa too.. but pulseaudio is easier
[10:38] <Jakob_the_Liar> im using alsa
[10:38] <Slart> Jakob_the_Liar: if mpd supports it, that is
[10:38] <deutsch1988_> Gnea konen sie mir helfen ???
[10:38] <ichbinesderelch> Gnea: google translation? :P
[10:38] <ortsvorsteher> deutsch1988_: ich kann es probieren...
[10:38] <ichbinesderelch> deutsch1988_: join #ubuntu-de
 oke.beginen wir dann?\
 wer bist du denn?
[10:39] <onetinsoldier> deutsch1988_: the answer is, i don't reaslly know.. the text file you sent me claims the you need to download the driver for it and compile i, unless there is already a pre-compiled driver for it there --> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/11c11040/
[10:39] <Gnea> deutsch1988_: Nur wenn Sie aufhören, die wie ein Idiot.
[10:39] <ichbinesderelch> deutsch1988_: ubuntu-de is deutschsprachiger ubuntu chnalle ;)
[10:39] <Slart> Jakob_the_Liar: what kind of soundcard are you using?
[10:39] <sfer21> !de > deutsch1988_
[10:39] <ichbinesderelch> *chanell
[10:39] <Gnea> ichbinesderelch: ;)
[10:39] <Jakob_the_Liar> im use to using file-roller but im trying to go without installing gnome or any dependencies whats something else i can use for rar files
[10:39] <ortsvorsteher> deutsch1988_: sie schlagen dir das kompilieren des treibers vor. hast du denn ein linmodem?
  my bro i have you send my modemdata.txt you geve me please corect driver
[10:40] <Jakob_the_Liar> ich4-m ac'97 audio controller Slart
[10:40] <sfer21> !de > deutsch1988_
[10:40] <bazhang> sfer21, please stop
[10:40] <quibbler> Jacob_the)liar, winrar with wine
[10:40] <deutsch1988_> Gnea iditon sin sie konen nicht helfen :(
[10:40] <Jakob_the_Liar> i dont want to install wine
[10:40] <deutsch1988_> ubuttu . No help no understand the de canal :(
[10:40] <sfer21> bazhang: but could it be moved to the de channel?
[10:41] <sfer21> or is there no-one in there?
 ich habe eine winmodem
[10:41] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Humm, evolution doesnt seem to get all my mail, it gets some, but not all, any ideas?
[10:41] <Gnea> deutsch1988_: Dies ist Ihre letzte Warnung. Bitte beachten Sie unsere Anweisungen für Hilfe, oder Sie werden zwangsweise abgeschoben werden..
[10:41] <onetinsoldier> deutsch1988_: go here, you might find a driver for your modem ( LSI/Agere 11c11040 modem chip) --> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/11c11040/
[10:41] <bazhang> deutsch1988_, there may be a driver for that ; you may need to compile it
[10:41] <deutsch1988_> Gnea ich will nur hilfe aber sie helfen nicht ,sagen nur warnungen :(
[10:41] <ortsvorsteher> deutsch1988_: lets change to german channel.
[10:42] <Gnea> deus_:
[10:42] <Gnea> bleh
[10:42] <daleharvey> has anyone got suggestions on how to debug mobile broadband not working?
[10:42] <daleharvey> i kinda dont know where to start with this thing :p
[10:43] <Slart> daleharvey: is it an usb modem thingy?
[10:43] <daleharvey> yeh
[10:43] <krishnan> i have a netgear wireless router connecting 2 computers and 1 laptop. I am going to buy a network switch. Which network switch should I buy, and which one goes well with ubuntu and win XP?
[10:43] <eth01> lets face it, ubuntu is only fault-proof with wired connections
[10:43] <eth01> ;p
[10:43] <Gnea> daleharvey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=609534
[10:43] <daleharvey> huawei e156g
[10:43] <quibbler> Jacob_the_Liar, unrar from Synaptic
[10:43] <Gnea> krishnan: i'd stick with netgear
[10:43] <Slart> daleharvey: run this in a terminal "tail -f /var/log/syslog", disconnect the modem and reconnect it after a few seconds.. see what kind of information pops up
[10:44] <sikk_> !list
[10:44] <Slart> daleharvey: use ctrl+c to quit that command after you're done
[10:44] <Gnea> krishnan: and switches don't care what the OS is
[10:45] <Slart> the day they make a windows only-switch is the day I'll start practising my abacus skills =)
[10:45] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> lol.
[10:45] <krishnan> Gnea: can i connect my switch to the wireless router, which is connected to the cable company modem? like modem - wireless router - switch - computers?
[10:45] <Gnea> haha
[10:45] <Gnea> krishnan: yes.
[10:45] <sfer21> krishnan: sure, why not.
[10:46] <krishnan> Gnea: thanks a lot :).
[10:46] <Gnea> krishnan: have fun :)
[10:46] <krishnan> sfer21: thanks a lot :).
[10:46] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Humm, evolution doesnt seem to get all my mail, it gets some, but not all, any ideas?
[10:46] <Gnea> CoUrPsE|DeAd: large attachment?
[10:46] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> nope.
[10:46] <sfer21> krishnan: no worries, i didn't exactly add much ;-)
[10:46] <Gnea> CoUrPsE|DeAd: no idea, i use thunderbird.
[10:47] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> and it hasnt picked up my gmail spam folders either.
[10:47] <sfer21> switches are os independent, really
[10:47] <Slart> CoUrPsE|DeAd: I've never used evolution myself but there might be a setting somewhere to only fetch mail of a certain size or age.. that's just a guess though
[10:47] <Gnea> CoUrPsE|DeAd: i've used thunderbird with gmail, it works just fine
[10:47] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> okies, thunderbird it is then, :)
[10:52] <fadzL> hi
[10:53] <bazhang> sdfjskldfje, hi
[10:53] <fadzL> wow
[10:53] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Humm, still didnt get msgs from spam directory.
[10:53] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> and says no new msgs.
[10:55] <abhii> command to remove mutt completly?
[10:56] <bimberi> abhii: sudo aptitude purge mutt
[10:56] <Flannel> abhii: sudo apt-get remove --purge mutt
[10:56] <fadzL> sudo auto remvove?
[10:56] <Slart> abhii: sudo apt-get purge.... mutt perhaps?
[10:56] <eth01> should remove --purge really
[10:56] <Slart> wow.. 4 different solutions.. =)
[10:56] <Flannel> eth01: apt-get purge works, but only in more recent Ubuntus
[10:56] <onetinsoldier> and none of the mthe one that i would have used.. lol
[10:57] <Slart> hehe
[10:57] <krishnan> help me in setting up an email server. Complete to recieve and send emails with n number of email addresses for our employees.
[10:57] <mrwes> re
[10:57] <eth01> trained to use "remove --purge" myself
[10:57] <mrwes> Hey, does Amarok have DAAP share like Rhythmbox?
[10:57] <onetinsoldier> dpkg --purge mutt && rm -rv ~/.mutt
[10:58] <Slart> onetinsoldier: just to be special =)
[10:58] <onetinsoldier> hehe
[10:58] <joaopinto> krishnan, unless you have a specific doubt, you would be better reading a tutorial on how to setup a mail server
[10:58] <bimberi> onetinsoldier: there's still ~/.muttrc  ;)
[10:58] <onetinsoldier> bimberi: ahh, yes. forgot that. thanks :-)
[10:59] <Slart> hmm.. would I have to boot into windows to defrag an external ntfs drive?.. or can I do it from a virtualbox vm?
[10:59] <fadzL> what is mutt
[11:00] <hischild> Slart, ntfsprogs doesn't have a defrag tool?
[11:00] <Flannel> fadzL: Its a curses based mail client
[11:00] <ardchoille> fadzL: apt-cache show mutt
[11:00] <Slart> fadzL: command line mail client
[11:00] <Slart> hischild: I don't think so.. I haven't actually checked though
[11:01] <fadzL> owh..tq..i m newbie
[11:02]  * bimberi wonders what newbies make of "curses based" ;)
[11:03] <quibbler> "curses based" like windows???
[11:04] <onetinsoldier> what do i need to do in Firestarter to allow /DCC file receives? i get a 'Connect', but it's blocked beyond that unless i stop the firewall
[11:04] <mossmon> Hey, I'd like to install drivers for my ati radeon 9600, but the open source drivers didn't work properly, so I tried getting the newest catalyst drivers, which are in a .run -file. When I try to open it, it opens it in dosbox, which doesn't seem right. any tips?
[11:04] <hischild> Slart, apparently there's no real defrag tool. If you can get it to see the real drive in vbox that'd work, otherwise you'll need windows.
[11:04] <onetinsoldier> great curses based prog is 'iptraf'!
[11:05] <hischild> onetinsoldier, check the logs, it should be in there. Rightclick and then allow it.
[11:05] <onetinsoldier> hischild: ok, thanks, i'll have a look
[11:05] <Slart> hischild: mm.. seems it's hard to make a vm see an usb connected drive..I guess I'll have to boot windows then.. or steal the gf's laptop...
[11:05] <bimberi> krishnan: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/email-services.html
[11:06] <Slart> hischild: thanks
[11:06] <hischild> Slart, both would work. If you have VMware working somehow, you can still use that.
[11:06] <Slart> hischild: just plain virtualbox
[11:06] <rinsmaster> Slart, I have VirtualBox running here with usb support
[11:06] <rinsmaster> requires some hacks but it works then
[11:06] <krishnan> bimberi: will tht be sufficient for setting up a full fledged email server?
[11:06] <Slart> rinsmaster: oh? any serious operations to enable that?
[11:06] <pixelated> 'ello all
[11:07] <rinsmaster> Slart, Just google like: "Virtualbox ubuntu usb support" ;)
[11:07] <rinsmaster> Slart, also, i have the non-opensource version, but as far as i know the same hack works for the oss version
[11:08] <roca> is there a prog that handles web servers?
[11:08] <Slart> rinsmaster: thanks.. I'm googling
[11:08] <mossmon> my ubuntu-supported drivers for ati radeon 9600 don't work properly, is it possible to install the closed source catalyst drivers?
[11:08] <mossmon> I can't find anything by googling..
[11:08] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> How do i make thunderbird download all my gmail foldersw?
[11:09] <roca> is there a prog that handles web servers ssh or things of that nature?
[11:09] <bimberi> krishnan: the packaged referred to (postfix, exim, dovecot, ...) are used in very large installations.  So _yes_ I suppose.
[11:09] <onetinsoldier> mossmon: howdy. ther's a guide to installing the glrx driver. how-to build.deb packages. i will help with it if you need it. bottom half of the page  --> (change libstdc++5 to libstdc++6)
[11:09] <mrwes> Hey, does Amarok have DAAP share like Rhythmbox?
[11:09] <bimberi> krishnan: *packages
[11:09] <terryx> ubuntu wubi requirement plz???????
[11:10] <ph8> hi all, i've got a dell studio laptop and the 'hot keys' across the top row of my keyboard (stop/play/left/right/voldown/volup/voloff/eject cd) seem to be activating themselves random (at least the eject and volup ones do) - any idea why that would be?
[11:10] <onetinsoldier> mossmon: oops...
[11:10] <onetinsoldier> mossmon: howdy. ther's a guide to installing the fglrx driver. how-to build .deb packages. i will help with it if you need it. bottom half of the page  --> (change libstdc++5 to libstdc++6)  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:10] <roca> is there a prog that handles web servers ssh or things of that nature in a gui?
[11:11] <mossmon> onetinsoldier, thanks, I'll try it out and ask for help if necessary :)
[11:11] <rinsmaster> roca, use the "Connect to server" gnome option, it's under the second menu: Locations
[11:11] <onetinsoldier> mossmon: ok, good luck
[11:11] <Gnea> !wubi | terryx
[11:11] <rinsmaster> roca, or find an FTP client that supports sftp
[11:13] <roca> i remember a prog i used a while back to run diff servers and stuff but it was before i went to iraq so im a little rusty
[11:13] <worldcitizen09> I am using gigabyte VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP board and 8.10 does not complete the boot from cd or installation. Can some one help
[11:13] <terryx> i just installed ubuntu(wubi), after 10min. using..its freezes...why?
[11:14] <worldcitizen09> I am using gigabyte VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP board and 8.10 does not complete the boot from cd or installation. Can some one help, please?
[11:14] <krishnan> i have netgear wi-fi router. which external wi-fi adapter should i buy for my laptop?
[11:14] <Gnea> worldcitizen09: at the boot screen, press F6 and delete the following words from the sequence: quiet splash
[11:14] <terryx> i have 480 mb of ram..
[11:15] <terryx> i just installed ubuntu(wubi), after 10min. using..its freezes...why?
[11:15] <Gnea> krishnan: netgear?
[11:15] <Walex3> worldcitizen09: usually wait at least 5-10min before repeating a question
[11:15] <Gnea> !repeat | terryx
[11:15] <Walex3> terryx: usually wait at least 5-10min before repeating a question
[11:15] <terryx> ok
[11:15] <worldcitizen09> Thanks Gnea
[11:15] <terryx> walex3, can u help me out?
[11:15] <Walex3> terryx: anyhow, we are sorry, but all our psychic advisors are busy on other astral planes...
[11:15] <worldcitizen09> That's all or something else needs to be done later
[11:15] <Gnea> terryx: it is in your best interest to not beg for help, either.
[11:15] <Walex3> terryx: unfortunately I am one of the fre non-psychic advisors here :-)
[11:16] <scientes> how can i extract a squash archive
[11:16] <scientes> or at least mount it?
[11:16] <Gnea> worldcitizen09: you need to read what it says and decide from there.
[11:16] <terryx> i just need help?
[11:16] <Gnea> !patience | terryx
[11:16] <krishnan> Gnea: yes netgear
[11:16] <Walex3> terryx: almost eveyrybody else is clairvoyant here and can solve problems without being given details, but I cannot.
[11:17] <Gnea> terryx: begging and demanding for help will only want to make people help you less.
[11:17] <bazhang> terryx, please be patient
[11:17] <mats> I have problem and I would be really glad if someone could help me out. When I instert my digital camera gthumb starts two times and the latter is telling me that the camera is busy. If I close the second gthumb popup window and wait a couple of seconds I can still import photos using the first gthumb instance but this is quite annoying. Where can I configure so that I only get one instance of GThumb when I start my camera?
[11:17] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[11:17] <Gnea> terryx: now, I've given you the URL for wubi, there are some troubleshooting and system requirements there.
[11:17] <Walex3> terryx: anyhow random crashes are often hw problems. Like too little power or cooling.
[11:17] <_thegod> "This channel sucks and I hate you all!"
[11:18] <terryx> power of what?
[11:18]  * CoUrPsE|DeAd huggles.
[11:18] <silv3r_m00n> i have two ethernet cards on my PC eth0 and eth1 ... i use eth0 to connect to broadband and i want to connect my laptop to eth1 and get internet access to this laptop via my PC how can i do that ?
[11:18] <scientes> if you ship your system with a compression format you should install the tool to open those archives
[11:18] <scientes> how can i decompress quashfs
[11:19] <Walex3> silv3r_m00n: do a web searching for configuring your PC for forwarding/routing.
[11:19] <silv3r_m00n> Walex3: let me check
[11:20] <Walex3> scientes: if it is "squashfs" that's not an archives format, it is a compresses filesystem. To create it there is a command line utility to read it you need to mount it and have the relevsnt kernel module installed before you do that.
[11:20] <onetinsoldier> silv3r_m00n: the 'firestarter' package might be able to help with that.
[11:20] <scientes> compressed filesystems are archives
[11:20] <terryx_> what type of power does ubuntu wubi needs?
[11:20] <silv3r_m00n> onetinsoldier: let me check that
[11:20] <Walex3> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SquashFS
[11:20] <hischild> !ics | silv3r_m00n
[11:20] <scientes> dmg is a compressed filesystem and it is used exactally as one would use tar.gz
[11:20] <Walex3> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/SquashFS-HOWTO
[11:20] <Gnea> !in | terryx
[11:21] <terryx_> 3 times hangs after ubuntu wubi installed...what i do?
[11:21] <silv3r_m00n> hischild: let me check that too
[11:21] <Gnea> terryx_: how much hard drive space did you give it?
[11:22] <Walex3> terryx: what "hangs"? At what point?
[11:22] <terryx_> 8gb..4gb free now.
[11:22] <roca> found it ... its called webmin  ... thanks again
[11:22] <Slart> !webmin
[11:23] <Gnea> webmin - the root of all that is evil.
[11:23] <gmathews> Good day. I am running Intrepid - I have an NTFS drive where all my stuff is stored on - But evertime I need to use it (after booting into Ubuntu ) I have to click on Places -> 295.9 GB Media. How can I sort of auto mount it?
[11:23] <terryx_> its means freeze my computer...anytime...like after 5min. after ubuntu starts
[11:23] <azfira> jum
[11:23] <terryx_> i just have installed ubuntu wubi
[11:23] <Gnea> terryx_: are you doing anything in particular when it freezes?
[11:23] <Gnea> terryx_: yes, we are well aware that you've installed wubi.
[11:24] <gizmo> what is nmap for?
[11:24] <Gnea> terryx_: you don't have to tell us things over and over, just tell us once. we're not idiots.
[11:24] <terryx_> nothing before..this time chatting with u guys..then freeze..sometime freezes, or sometime logout in middle of anything
[11:24] <Gnea> gizmo: portscanning, securing networks
[11:25] <roca> does ebox work like webmin?
[11:25] <terryx_> ok..sorry
[11:25] <gizmo> Gnea, is it usefull?
[11:25] <Gnea> terryx_: and you said you have 340mb ram?
[11:25] <terryx_> 480mb
[11:25] <Gnea> gizmo: it can be.
[11:25] <Gnea> terryx_: what cpu?
[11:25] <Kartagis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/93126/ <--- i get this when make'ing my kernel. any idea?
[11:26] <Slart> roca: kind of
[11:26] <terryx_> pentium-4, 2.4ghz
[11:26] <Slart> roca: give it a try
[11:26] <Walex3> gmathews: put it into '/etc/fstab'
[11:26] <Gnea> terryx_: is hyperthreading turned on or off?
[11:26] <roca> Slart, im looking at the website and it is an iso is that right?
[11:26] <terryx_> what is that.. i don;t know..
[11:27] <gmathews> Walex3: can u sort of guide me through it?
[11:27] <gmathews> still a n00b..
[11:27] <Gnea> terryx_: do you know how to use the BIOS?
[11:27] <Slart> roca: it isn't available frome the repos?
[11:27] <Slart> !info ebox
[11:27] <terryx_> yes...
[11:27] <roca> Slart, let me check again
[11:27] <terryx_> if in the middle of chat i left...so plz understand that my ubuntu freeze again
[11:27] <Slart> roca: "sudo apt-get install ebox" will do it for you
[11:27] <Walex3> gmathews: if you are a n00b there is some GUI stuff to do that for you, but I can't remember the name...
[11:27] <Gnea> terryx_: okay, if you restart the system and go into the BIOS settings, there should be a setting in there, somewhere, for turning HPET on/off
[11:27] <co0lingFir3> hello, does checkinstall not work for libraries?
[11:27] <terryx_> ok
[11:27] <Gnea> terryx_: that is okay.
[11:27] <gmathews> hmmm would be cool to get the GUI for it
[11:27] <terryx_> what i do
[11:28] <roca> Slart, thanks
[11:28] <Kartagis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/93126/ <--- i get this when make'ing my kernel. any ideas?
[11:28] <terryx_> hpet is where, chipset, boot, or i have to find?
[11:28] <Gnea> restart computer, enter BIOS, check HPET setting, exit BIOS, return here and tell us what it is set to please.
[11:28] <Slart> roca: you're welcome
[11:29] <worldcitizen09> hello Gnea, I did delete the splash screen but the booting halting when the display manager started. Any ideas?
[11:29] <gmathews> Does anyobody know the GUI app to mount partitions automatically in fstab?
[11:29] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: what is the compcache_size_setup thisng you're tying to add to the kernel? i'm just curious as to what it's for/about?
[11:29] <silv3r_m00n> onetinsoldier: hischild: thanks that worked using firestarter
[11:29] <Gnea> worldcitizen09: it sounds like you have a bad video driver
[11:29] <onetinsoldier> silv3r_m00n: great! :-)
[11:29] <terryx_> should i do it now, on or off?
[11:29] <onetinsoldier> silv3r_m00n: you're welcome
[11:30] <Gnea> worldcitizen09: what video card do you have?
[11:30] <gmathews> Walex3: is it PySDM? - PySDM is a PyGTK Storage Device Manager that allows full customization of hard
[11:30] <gmathews> disk mountpoints whitout manually access to fstab.
[11:30] <worldcitizen09> Gnea I downloaded the Linux mint and the same problem came up. they boot fine in safe graphics mode but then i cannot change resolution later
[11:30] <silv3r_m00n> onetinsoldier: one more thing... looks like firestarter must run for this to work...so how can i start firestarter everytime ubuntu starts ?
[11:31] <roca> Slart, its giving me this error  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:31] <roca>   ebox: Depends: libapache-authcookie-perl but it is not installable
[11:31] <roca> E: Broken packages
[11:31] <Gnea> worldcitizen09: then you have a hardware problem.
[11:31] <Kartagis> onetinsoldier, i just marked/unmarked things, that's all
[11:31] <Slart> roca: hmm.. same thing here.. guess someone made a mistake somewhere
[11:31] <terryx_> gnea, u there, what i do now?
[11:32] <Gnea> terryx_: did you get to the BIOS?
[11:32] <worldcitizen09> Gnea, the display driver in windows is  VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP. It works fine in Linux with ubuntu 8.04 or linux mint 5 but not with 8.10 etc
[11:32] <onetinsoldier> silv3r_m00n: now that you've installed it, i believe it runs everytime you start Ubuntu. however, i do get a 'failed' message about the firestart service starting wheni boot, but i am pretty certain it's running as soon at i enter x-windows(perhpas even sooner)
[11:32] <Walex3> gmathews: it may well be nice. BTW just fopund the page on editing '/etc/fstab' manually: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[11:32] <terryx_> no what i do, turn off or on
[11:33] <worldcitizen09> Can you please think of somehting?
[11:33] <gmathews> Thank you Walex3 :)
[11:33] <co0lingFir3> does anyone know where to get a deb for libusb1.0?
[11:33] <Gnea> worldcitizen09: i see. you can try changing the display driver from S3 to VESA when it boots to safe graphics mode
[11:33] <Walex3> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[11:33] <silv3r_m00n> onetinsoldier: hmm...i configured in firestarter and internet connection sharing works fine... now i quit firestarter and it still works fine... so firestarter is not needed again ?
[11:33] <nibbler> co0lingFir3: apt-file search libusb
[11:33] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: roger that. i'm not sure.. i'll poke around a little though
[11:34] <Gnea> terryx_: do you know how to restart your computer?
[11:34] <Walex3> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid#Mounting_NTFS_Partitions_.28with_read.2Fwrite_privileges.29
[11:34] <terryx_> ok i go then come..wait
[11:34] <worldcitizen09> Gnea can u give me a bit of guidance on that
[11:34] <Gnea> as if I have a choice? well, I suppose I could go to bed... :P
[11:34] <onetinsoldier> silv3r_m00n: you probably shut the firewall down, but that probably does not disable the iptables port-forwarding
[11:35] <silv3r_m00n> onetinsoldier: yeah the iptables once configured are there always and so it shud work from now on always...i think
[11:35] <Gnea> worldcitizen09: when ubuntu starts, does it give you the option of booting into single-user mode?
[11:35] <onetinsoldier> silv3r_m00n: yep, i think so too
[11:35] <dr_willis> silv3r_m00n,  l was thinking firestarter was just a gui/front end.. it sets up the firewal and thats it. :)
[11:36] <worldcitizen09> Gnea perhaps so, I can check later when i boot in there. I know i have to fill in user name and password
[11:36] <gmathews> Walex3: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions has a script to handle it - Awesome gonnna try it now.
[11:37] <silv3r_m00n> dr_willis: yeah ... but firestarter got some good things too like the stats and active connections
[11:37] <silv3r_m00n> i was looking for something like this for the past few days
[11:37] <Gnea> worldcitizen09: sounds good. you may also want to read and bookmark this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=342115
[11:37] <co0lingFir3> nibbler: does this search in the repos?
[11:37] <hischild> silv3r_m00n, if you want the situation before you activated firestarter, you have to click stop on firestarter.
[11:38] <nibbler> co0lingFir3: yes
[11:38] <silv3r_m00n> hischild: thats a really useful piece of information... thanks
[11:39] <onetinsoldier> silv3r_m00n: ok,what hischild said. i misread your message, sorry. just quiting out of firestarter does not shut it down
[11:39] <terryx> gnea: i am back and there is no hyperthreading option in my bios...now what?
[11:40] <krishnan> which print server goes well with ubuntu hardy and win XP?
[11:40] <silv3r_m00n> onetinsoldier: thats all fine...
[11:41] <miro> whati s the best way my two partitions to be visible and for windows and for ubuntu?
[11:41] <terryx> gnea: i am back and there is no hyperthreading option in my bios...now what?
[11:42] <Gnea> terryx: remember what you were told about repeating.
[11:42] <terryx> ok...i wait..
[11:43] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: hello, at first glance form reading this web page from a google search, it looks like you might have done something that caused a known bug to pop-up on you....  --> http://code.google.com/p/compcache/wiki/CompilingAndUsing
[11:43] <Gnea> terryx: now, you need to install the pastebinit package, like this:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[11:43] <terryx> done..
[11:44] <Gnea> terryx: now, issue this command and paste the resulting URL here... this will help us determine where the problem is:  dmesg | pastebinit
[11:45] <worldcitizen09> Gnea I looked at the page. Thanks a lot. My mother board is Gigabyte K8M800 which is mentioned there. however I dont understand the change of settings. Can u please help with xorg etc
[11:45] <terryx> so i type dmesg | pastebinit in terminal?
[11:45] <CaneToad> anyone seen lousy "G_IO_ERROR_FAILED_HANDLED in the UI" issues in various apps?
[11:45] <Gnea> worldcitizen09: once you are able to boot the system into single-user mode, you will be able to change the /etc/X11/xorg.conf then
[11:46] <Gnea> terryx: correct.
[11:46] <gizmo> sudo chmod 666 /usr/sbin/sshd<---whats this for?
[11:46] <gizmo> can anyone tell me
[11:46] <Gnea> gizmo: who told you to do that?
[11:47] <gizmo> my frend
[11:47] <Gnea> lol
[11:47] <gizmo> Gnea, why?am i being fool?
[11:47] <Gnea> gizmo: yes - 666 makes it unexecutable
[11:47] <gizmo> thats why im asking here..
[11:47] <gizmo> so?
[11:48] <gizmo> can i change it
[11:48] <Gnea> it means ssh server will not work anymore
[11:48] <terryx> gnea: sorry got logout again, black screen and all gone its asking for my user name and password again
[11:48] <terryx> http://pastebin.com/f75333ebd
[11:48] <gizmo> Gnea, if ssh not work anymore why?
[11:48] <worldcitizen09> Gnea is there a motherboard for amd platform that will install ubuntu as a breeze or should i switch over to intel
[11:49] <onetinsoldier> gizmo: do you know what 'executable' means?
[11:49] <co0lingFir3> nibbler: unfortunately libusb1.0 ist not in the repos...
[11:49] <terryx> its just like hen you press ctrl+alt+f2
[11:49] <Gnea> terryx: try turning visual effects off
[11:49] <terryx> its already off
[11:49] <gizmo> onetinsoldier, no what is it?
[11:49] <worldcitizen09> Gnea I am thinking of upgrading to amd 5000+ or intel dual core
[11:49] <Gnea> worldcitizen09: I really am not sure what is a good motherboard that's new these days
[11:50] <dr_willis> Time for Linux Basic Training. :)
[11:50] <Gnea> worldcitizen09: you should stick with AMD
[11:50] <Gnea> terryx: good
[11:50] <Kartagis> onetinsoldier, thanks, but i still don't see what i have to do
[11:50] <worldcitizen09> Great, Gnea. That is a good suggestion after my heart. But could u recommend a motherboard too like asus etc
[11:51] <onetinsoldier> gizmo: it determines whether or not a compiled binary program can be run(executed)
[11:51] <Gnea> worldcitizen09: Tyan and Asus are preferable.
[11:51] <Gnea> !pm | gizmo
[11:51] <gizmo> am my computer being hurt or hack?
[11:51] <terryx> Gnea: what u think about the problem?
[11:51] <nibbler> co0lingFir3: libusb-0.1-4: /lib/libusb-0.1.so.4
[11:52] <Gnea> terryx: you should edit this file:  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:52] <nibbler> co0lingFir3: might do it..m aybe
[11:52] <Gnea> terryx: and add this to your kernel boot line:  pci=routeirq
[11:52] <worldcitizen09> gnea thanks will try to do something, otherwise will need help again.
[11:52] <Gnea> worldcitizen09: we'll be here :)
[11:52] <miro> is ubuntu work well on ntfs or FAT file sistems?
[11:52] <worldcitizen09> bye and thanks
[11:52] <Gnea> good luck
[11:53] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: yeah, i hear you. i don't know either. it's a bug, i guess that Ubuntu has patch the 2.6.27 kernel in Intrepid with that out-of-tree compcache module. you have enabled or diabled some kernel option that has caused this bug to appear for you. what to do? i don't know
[11:53] <onetinsoldier> patched*
[11:53] <gizmo> Gnea, so how?am i being hack or what?
[11:53] <terryx> i have opened the file...now where to put this line
[11:53] <co0lingFir3> nibbler: nope. i really need version 1.0 and not 0.1
[11:53] <roca> which is better nubuntu or backtrack for over all use?
[11:53] <puremichael> hello - can someone tell me how to fix wrong keyboard layouts? i've got GBR, Deu, ??? and ??2 at the keyboard switchter applet
[11:53] <Gnea> gizmo: yes
[11:54] <Gnea> gizmo: it should be mode 755
[11:54] <ramon> i am having problem playing video on the net...flashplugin-nonfree installed but the video stop in the bigining what should i do or whats wrong?
[11:54] <jeff008> hello every body, i would like help to part  my hard disk 250 GO ... i installed vml2 modprobe dm-mod with cd live, i killed all olds parts, whith cfdisk i make first part /boot 500 Mo primary ext3 on /dev/sda1 , and the rest no part , i don't know haow to do is there any one to help me ;) ?
[11:54] <gizmo> Gnea, can i changed?
[11:54] <terryx> Gnea: there are many kernel..
[11:54] <gizmo> help me
[11:55] <miro> Gnea: isss ubuntu work well on ntfs or FAT file sistems?
[11:55] <gizmo> Gnea, help me to fixed it backk
[11:55] <Gnea> terryx: use the first one
[11:55] <dr_willis> miro,  i have no issues with ntfs or fat. - it is worth the time to read up on how linux acceses both.
[11:55] <Slart> miro: you can't install ubuntu on a ntfs or fat32 fs.. but it can read/write files from them
[11:55] <benjick_> Hey
[11:55] <Gnea> miro: what do you mean? reading/writing from a device or installing to?
[11:56] <gizmo> chmod 666 /usr/sbin/sshd
[11:56] <gizmo> <----help me how to fixed this
[11:56] <terryx> there is written: kernel	/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
[11:56] <Gnea> gizmo: chmod 755 /usr/sbin/sshd
[11:56] <benjick_> Can i connect to a SVN like i connect to an ftp? e.g. alt+f2 then svn://myserver/myrepo?
[11:56] <roca> which is better nubuntu or backtrack for over all use?
[11:56] <terryx> so i do: kernel	pci=routeirq
[11:56] <Gnea> terryx: make it this: kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro pci=routeirq
[11:57] <Gnea> terryx: so you're appending 'pci=routeirq' to the end of the kernel line
[11:57] <miro> Gnea: to install it on this kind of file sistem. i want ot have dual OS laptop and Windows to be able to readand the linux partition
[11:57] <terryx> understood and done...now?
[11:57] <gizmo> Gnea,  chmod: changing permissions of `/usr/sbin/sshd': Operation not permitted
[11:57] <Gnea> !dualboot | miro
[11:57] <ramon> gizmo do you know what it could be happening if i have flashplugin-nonfree installed in the browser and i cant see the video...if i download i can play outsite..so is not codec...what do you think...do you know if there is a way to blow video playing?
[11:57] <Gnea> gizmo: did you use sudo before?
[11:58] <dr_willis> gizmo,  linux basics.. to alter 'system type' stuff - you must use sudo
[11:58] <gizmo> Gnea, yeah
[11:58] <Gnea> gizmo: then use it again
[11:58] <miro> gnea: yea dualboot i know that for linux its best to be on ext3 but this cant be readed from windows
[11:59] <terryx> Gnea: can i ask you whats this for?
[11:59] <gizmo> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 418340 2008-10-14 02:50 /usr/sbin/sshd <--so its alrite already/
[11:59] <dr_willis> miro,  with the right tools windows can read/write ext2/3
[11:59] <Slart> miro: yes it can.. there are drivers for reading ext2/3 in windows
[11:59] <Gnea> terryx: it's for re-routing how the hardware interrupts work with the linux kernel
[11:59] <dr_willis> miro,  but they can cause issues if used wrngly
[11:59] <Guest29258> Merry boxing day :D anyone care to help me get my Christmas present working? The "instructions for Linux" don't make sense
[12:00] <terryx> ok...now should i do anything or just wait for another hang?
[12:00] <Gnea> terryx: yes - reboot it again and wait
[12:00] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: hello. may i ask why you are wanting to compile your own custom kernel?
[12:00] <Guest29258> The instructions are quite short though
[12:00] <Gnea> terryx: and don't forget to save the file
[12:00] <terryx> enable desktop effects?
[12:00] <yan_> hi
[12:00] <Gnea> terryx: no, leave them off, for now
[12:00] <miro> so what about instaling ubuntu on ntfs or fat file systtem?
[12:00] <terryx> yes i have save the file..
[12:01] <Gnea> miro: no.
[12:01] <terryx> ok i am restarting
[12:01] <Slart> miro: can  not  be  done
[12:01] <gizmo> Gnea, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 418340 2008-10-14 02:50 /usr/sbin/sshd<--so its ok already?
[12:01] <dr_willis> miro,  unless you wan ttouse wubi - and i dont suggest using wubi
[12:01] <miro> i tryed once wubi and i dont like it
[12:01] <Gnea> gizmo: looks great
[12:02] <Kartagis> onetinsoldier, mtozses@mtozses-laptop:/$ lsmod | wc -l
[12:02] <Kartagis> 108
[12:02] <gizmo> Gnea, are you sure if chmod 666 its mean im being hack/
[12:02] <dr_willis> willis@black:~(24931.413 Mb)$ ls -l /usr/sbin/sshd
[12:02] <dr_willis> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 409K 2008-10-13 14:50 /usr/sbin/sshd*
[12:02] <Gnea> gizmo: it means that your system will be messed up, yes.
[12:02]  * dr_willis wonders at the size differance in gizmo 's sshd.
[12:03]  * Gnea wonders at the K in dr_willis's sshd
[12:03] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: so, you'd like to get that number down?
[12:03] <dr_willis> Gnea,  it rouded up a bit TOO much it looks like.
[12:03] <Gnea> dr_willis: :)
[12:04] <gizmo> dr_willis, what you mean?
[12:04] <Slart> dr_willis: mine is 436k .. or 445864 bytes
[12:04] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: 105 here...
[12:04] <Kartagis> onetinsoldier, one of the reasonss yes
[12:04] <dr_willis> heh. Now eeryone is checking. :)
[12:04] <terryx> Gnea: is it good if i full upgrade/update ubuntu?
[12:04] <Gnea> lol
[12:04] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: are you using open-source video driver?
[12:04] <dr_willis> gizmo,  do      ls -l /usr/sbin/sshd   and check the #s to what others have
[12:04] <Gnea> terryx: did you reboot yet?
[12:04] <terryx> yes
[12:05] <terryx> i am back
[12:05] <miro> dr_willis: so if im understand right i will install ubuntu on ext3 partiton wich basicaly cannot be used from windows but with ubuntu i could read/write on the windows partition
[12:05] <Gnea> terryx: i would wait for the update.... see how it goes over the next 10 minutes
[12:05] <Gnea> make sure it's not going to crash
[12:05] <Kartagis> onetinsoldier, one other is i have a earphone not muting speakers and i am hoping to solve that
[12:05] <Slart> miro: read this carefull... You   can    read   ext3   from    windows
[12:05] <Gnea> terryx: there's nothing worse than having the system halt in the middle of software installation - you could end up with a corrupt database
[12:05] <miro> with special tools
[12:05] <Kartagis> onetinsoldier, how do i find that out?
[12:05] <dr_willis> miro,  as i said earlier - with the PROPER TOOLS installed on windows.. You CAN read/write ext2/3 from windows
[12:05] <gizmo> wait dr_willis
[12:06] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: grep divers /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:06] <terryx> i wait 20min. then use sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade...is that fine?
[12:06] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: grep drivers /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:06] <Slart> miro: as special as adobe acrobat or anything else in windows
[12:06] <dr_willis> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 418340 2008-10-13 14:50 /usr/sbin/sshd
[12:06] <dr_willis> gizmo,  ok. the #'s match. :) false alarm.. perhaps.. I would still be leary of HOW the permissions got changed
[12:07] <terryx> Gnea: so i can go to my drives and browse anything for checking wheather the problem occurs or not?
[12:07] <PolitikerALT> does anybody know how to install a "Sis Mirage 3+"-Driver in Ubuntu?
[12:07] <Gnea> terryx: just use your computer normally
[12:07] <Kartagis> onetinsoldier, /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//intel_drv.so
[12:07] <terryx> ok
[12:08] <Gnea> terryx: worry about updating when you're sure it's not freezing anymore
[12:08] <terryx> ok
[12:08] <terryx> i am waiting 20min.
[12:08] <Gnea> otherwise you will mess your system up more
[12:08] <miro> dr_willis: ok last question when i have to show where is the root or main directory i just have to type / right?
[12:08] <dr_willis> miro,  linux 'fundamentals '   the 'root' of the system filesystem is /    ROOT has his own home at /root    a users 'main' home directoru is /home/username/
[12:09] <dr_willis> miro,  root is used as a word to mean a lot of different things in linux. :)
[12:09] <miro> ok i think i get it
[12:09] <miro> i will try to install it
[12:10] <miro> last question
[12:10] <miro> really
[12:10] <dr_willis> miro,  if you are all scared.. you could install virtualbox under windows and practice with that. No risk to anything
[12:10] <miro> 32bit or 64bit for  intel core duo procesor on laptop
[12:10] <dr_willis> miro,  it would depend on your ram and needs
[12:11] <terryx_> Gnea: got freeze again..:(
[12:11] <miro> 2Gb ram
[12:11] <miro> common needs
[12:11] <dr_willis> miro,   when in doubt stick with 32bit
[12:11] <piksi> i don't see any reason nowadays NOT to install 64bit if the system supports it
[12:11] <miro> mostly surfing
[12:11] <dr_willis> piksi,  a few apps dont like it.. is about all ive noticed also. but if you NEED those apps...
[12:11] <miro> in interent and some multimedia
[12:11] <Gnea> terryx_: ick :(
[12:11] <Gnea> terryx_: try the upgrade
[12:12] <terryx_> u sure
[12:12] <piksi> well, i doubt a "normal" user would need "those apps" that aren't compatible with 64bit version anyway
[12:12] <terryx_> i mean its freeze again...why to upgrade
[12:12] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: ok, roger. i would ask if you have considered downloading and compiling the lastest kernel, but... that is a LOT of work. by that, i mean going through every kernel option and setting them all on your own, perhaps using some parameters from the stock Ubuntu one(for instance...CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_COUNT=16, CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE=65536), however, i would not expect you to do that, i did it, but it's a LOT of work.
[12:12] <jeff008> is there any body to help me part my disk lvm2 with the cd live hardy ?
[12:12] <Gnea> terryx_: how long did it take this time? 5 mins?
[12:12] <piksi> miro: just go with the 64bit
[12:13] <terryx_> Gnea: maybe 7min.
[12:14] <miro> is skype work well on 64bit?
[12:14] <Gnea> terryx_: I'm not sure what the problem is then :/
[12:14] <planttt>  hi, In thunderbird; I have a message with a lot of addresses, setup in content-type:text/plain. this means I cannot format it in HTML. I want to do that. How do I change the content-type of that message?
[12:14] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: the reason for the question about what video driver your using is because, if you were using the proprietary nvidia or fglrx(ati) driver, they aren't made ot work with kernel 2.6.28
[12:14] <Slart> miro: it works as well as expected.. it's still skype though
[12:14] <terryx_> Gnea: ok i have noticed one thing, when my computer is idle, it won't freeze, when i use some program or browse my drives its freezes, u think thats a co-incidence?
[12:15] <miro> ok peoples lthank you for everything
[12:15] <miro> see you later
[12:15] <terryx_> Gnea: or i bring 512mb of more ram?
[12:15] <moDumass> hey all, so um, i have an eepc, 8.10 insalled on the 4gig drive and i can see the 8gig, it mounts onto my desktop but i dont have write access..any idea how to fix this?
[12:15] <Kartagis> i thought the latest was 2.6.27-10
[12:15] <erry> hello i try to change permissions for a folder as root, and they change back to normal!
[12:16] <erry> Is there a way to solve this
[12:16] <test_of_faith> tes
[12:16] <Gnea> terryx_: i don't know if more ram will help, but you can try
[12:16] <erry> Hello?
[12:16] <ramon> whats the best recomend application for .swf format in intrepid?
[12:16] <terryx_> Gnea: ok i have noticed one thing, when my computer is idle, it won't freeze, when i use some program or browse my drives its freezes, u think thats a co-incidence?
[12:16] <Gnea> terryx_: at this point, I can help you no longer.
[12:16] <erry> Helo??
[12:16] <dr_willis> moDumass,  what filesystem is the 8gb?
[12:17] <test_of_faith> is this just 1 public forums?
[12:17] <Gnea> !patience | erry
[12:17] <erry> Ok
[12:17] <erry> Im sorry that i want an answer
[12:17] <erry> I wont do that again
[12:17] <terryx_> ok........thanx anyway....u know i someone help me?...i anyway i don;t think so........................
[12:17] <Starnestommy> erry: it depends on what folder it is
[12:17] <erry> it's not a system folder
[12:17] <moDumass> dr_willis, its EXT3
[12:18] <rinsmaster> erry, why do you want to do that? and on what folder?
[12:18] <erry> im not sure ud understand if i explained.
[12:18] <dr_willis> moDumass,  then you will need to check the files/directories permissions and ownership - to see if your user can access them.
[12:18] <rinsmaster> erry, also, what command do you use / what permissions
[12:18] <erry> i right clicked it
[12:18] <erry> and went were it says
[12:18] <erry> properties
[12:18] <Rioting_pacifist> !raid
[12:18] <erry> and permissions
[12:19] <moDumass> dr_willis, when i click ownership it either says "ownership could not be determined" or "root - you do not have permission to change ownership settings
[12:19] <rinsmaster> erry, and where was that folder and who owns it? (see that same tab in the properties dialog)
[12:19] <erry> rinsmaster, apparently root owns it
[12:20] <dr_willis> moDumass,  use the terminal.  if they are not owned by your user you will need to make them owned by the user, with  the proper root ran commands.. 'sudo chown' and 'sudo chmod'
[12:20] <moDumass> thanks dr_willis, readin about it now
[12:21] <rinsmaster> erry, is the folder in your ~ (/home/yourname)?, then you can make it yours without probs, just execute: chown -R yourname path/to/folder
[12:21] <dr_willis> moDumass,  you often have this issue if shareing a ext2/3 hard drive btween diffent linux installs and disrtos.
[12:22] <moDumass> dr_willis,  yeh this is a wierd way they put these together, 2 ssd drives, 1 4gig and 1 8gig, os on one and storage on the other
[12:23] <Kartagis> onetinsoldier, do i need to mark REALTEK_PHY or one under Ethernet? My ethernet is Realtek
[12:23] <dr_willis> moDumass,  ahh...  they dont show up as 2 drives? or they are using some sort of unionfs, or other way to merge the 2... I got an AcerAspireOne. :)  so i dont have that issue..
[12:23] <roca> i installed ebox and now cant find the gui
[12:23] <dr_willis> moDumass,  I got 120gb hd. :)
[12:23] <Rioting_pacifist> Is it worth setting up software raid 0 for performance gains, ive got 3 IDE drives lying about will booting up be faster or slowere (due to extra drivers)
[12:24] <Kartagis> how can i find out which module activates my ethernet card?
[12:24] <dr_willis> Kartagis,  look at lsmod output and eliminate  the ones its not? :)
[12:25] <moDumass> dr_willis, no innitially i thought that ubuntu would format both fdrives on install, but it only formatted the 4 giger and installed itself there, and it left the other as ntfs, which it didnt see
[12:25] <dr_willis> Kartagis,  or compare the list to the  nic modules in - err.. some directory i cant rember...
[12:25] <mar> men i ask one answer?
[12:25] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: i would imagine that you do need to, yes. when compiling a custom kernel this is where you need to figure out what's needed for your hardware. i'd have to google your model(which i do not know exact model you have))it myself and look in the menuconfig to see if that kernel option is exactly the right one for it
[12:26] <mar> from greece???
[12:26] <dr_willis>  Kartagis  most nic modules are shown in   /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/drivers/net
[12:26] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: but my first instinct says yes
[12:27] <roca> i installed ebox and now cant find the gui
[12:27] <Stalker72> What sound card brand has the best Linux drivers?
[12:27] <abhii> whenever i open mutt,inbox is emtpty,but i am able 2 send mails,what maybe d problem?
[12:28] <abhii> if i rum in shell command fetchmail -v some pop's come in terminal,this is wrong right?
[12:28] <dr_willis> !ebox
[12:29] <hischild> dr_willis, ebox is broken on intrepid.
[12:29] <dr_willis> hischild,  get out the glue! :)
[12:29] <hischild> dr_willis, ppa from LP works :-)
[12:29] <hischild> roca, ebox is a webbased administrative panel. Are you running intrepid?
[12:30] <roca> hischild, yes and i just answered my own ? ... aparently they have user guides on their websites... go figure
[12:31] <dr_willis> a program with dcumentation and guides? :)
[12:31] <roca> i know... technology these days... biblical events are at hand :P
[12:32] <abhii> whenever i open mutt,inbox is emtpty,but i am able 2 send mails,what maybe d problem?how to load inbox msg's into mutt,i don's want to use IMAP
[12:32] <matthias_> Hi, i have a problem, right now i am connected wireless to internet by my dlink router but since a couple of days ago i sometimes loos contact with the router by trying to ping the router and it does not respond on the ping but if i connect an cable between the router and my computer i have internet again, my computer shows wireless connection to router becasue i have the icon with 5 bars in color blue so how can i know if my ro
[12:32] <matthias_> uter is to blame or ubunr u????
[12:33] <matthias_> sorry for my spellling
[12:33] <matthias_> ubuntu and outer ...
[12:33] <matthias_> router ...
[12:33] <hischild> roca, you're aware that it is broken on intrepid?
[12:34] <Stalker72> Can someone name a good brand I can buy a soundcard from which has good Linux support?
[12:34] <dr_willis> Stalker72,  i like my creative-audigy cards.. i would avoide creative-xfis
[12:34] <abhii> any mutt users help please.
[12:34] <dr_willis> Stalker72,  but the audigys  are getting rare. :(
[12:34] <roca> hischild, yeah i am punching my self in the crotch. just upgraded lol
[12:34] <Stalker72> dr_willis: Do you know of other brands?
[12:34] <hischild> roca, no need. Get the PPA from LP and update it.
[12:35] <dr_willis> Stalker72,  nope.  If i buy a sound card.. i get Creative...
[12:35] <dr_willis> Stalker72, in this house - its onboard.. or creative add on.
[12:35] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: when you go to do the actual compile, i recommend you use the 'kernel-package' package. it'll create a .deb of your custom kernel for you. and i have some environment variables you can use for it to set the version of your linux-image.deb nicely, if you want them and if you want to copy and paste them into a text file
[12:35] <dr_willis> Stalker72,  actually the Xfi may have linux support by now. Ive not researched them lately
[12:35] <roca> hischild, how so?
[12:35] <Stalker72> dr_willis: Are there any new and good Audigy's?
[12:36] <hischild> roca, the 4th reply on the bugreport --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ebox/+bug/255368
[12:36] <Evert234> hello.. can somebody help me install the package ndiswrapper-common?
[12:36] <dr_willis> Stalker72,  I think they are slowly being phased out. not sure wht ones are stil in stores. I like my Audigy2zs.   They really dont need to be  the latest and greatest.. thats often what causes problems in linux.
[12:36] <hischild> roca, tried it n worked on my box. Haven't seen a problem with it.
[12:37] <dr_willis> Stalker72,  stick wuith sond cards that have been out a bit - is a safer bet
[12:37] <dr_willis> !hardware
[12:37] <Stalker72> dr_willis: Are they good enough for professional headphones?
[12:37] <dr_willis> Stalker72,  that term means very little to me. what makes Professional so much better then others?
[12:37] <dr_willis> So you can listen to Professional MP3's ?
[12:37] <Stalker72> dr_willis: Well, professional headphones require good soundcard ;)
[12:37] <onetinsoldier> dr_willis: creatvie open-sourced the x-fi driver a couple of months ago. i am hoping for a good open source driver for it in the future. however, it is possible to compile and install the one they released in November
[12:37] <matthias_> Stalker72:  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards
[12:37] <dr_willis> sound quality is subjective. :) so   i doubt if anyone can answer that wuestion.
[12:38] <roca> hischild, ok done thanks ... so i just put in the ip address/ebox?
[12:38] <dr_willis> Stalker72,  that sounds like a recursive  definition...
[12:38] <Stalker72> matthias_ and dr_willis: Thanks!
[12:38] <dr_willis> onetinsoldier,  so avoide X-Fi unless you want to do some work.. for now.. :)
[12:38] <onetinsoldier> dr_willis: yes
[12:39] <dr_willis> My Audigy2zs is like.. 3+ yrs old. :) its outlasted like 5 pc's
[12:39] <d333> help
[12:39] <dr_willis> My cre3ative speakers are like 10 yrs old.. :)
[12:40] <Stalker72> dr_willis: http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=25&l2=144&l3=0&l4=0&model=1769&modelmenu=1
[12:40] <Kartagis> thank you
[12:40] <Evert234> im trying to install ndiswrapper in terminal (sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common), but it says 'E: Could not find the package ndiswrapper-common', can somebody help me?
[12:40] <Kartagis> onetinsoldier*
[12:40] <hischild> roca, Don't have ebox on this box, that's on my pc at home. try man ebox or something, perhaps read up on the docs.
[12:40] <imachine> hi
[12:40] <Stalker72> dr_willis: Asus is not on the list on that website you linked to
[12:40] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: yes?
[12:40] <imachine> I downloaded packages from launchpad
[12:40] <imachine> how can I get them to work? they're not .deb files.
[12:40] <Stalker72> dr_willis: That soundcard is not X-Fi though.
[12:40] <roca> hischild, lol k thanks
[12:41] <imachine> just a folder with a bunch of files inside.
[12:41] <Kartagis> onetinsoldier, thank you :)
[12:41] <imachine> how can I make that into .deb ?
[12:41] <dr_willis> Stalker72,  i said earlier. i ONLY use creative sound cards. :)   Ive had good luck with most all of them.. except the x-fi
[12:41] <matthias_> anybody knows how to faultsearch if the wireless in muy computer is to blame ot the router it self, i believe the router but not sure ...
[12:41] <Stalker72> dr_willis: Ok :P
[12:41] <imachine> dr_willis, I had a vortex once, it was spot on.
[12:41] <dr_willis> Stalker72,  most of the terms in that cards description.. mean nothing to me at all. :)
[12:42] <imachine> got it for $10 and sold it for $30 5 years later.
[12:42] <imachine> maybe 3 years ;)
[12:42] <Stalker72> dr_willis: I have Bose Companion 5 speakers right now. They have a soundcard integrated in the subwoofer. If I buy headphones and a soundcard, will I be able to switch between those two audio sources easily?
[12:42] <Rictoo> I've been searching on google to no avail: How would I set up alsa to output sound to two seperate sound cards simulteniously?
[12:42] <dr_willis> Ultra Fidelity 7.1 PCI Sound Card -  means so much more to me then 'not-quite-so-ultra-fidelity' :)
[12:42] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: you're welcome :-) are you interested in using the kernel-package program(it's a bash script)? would you like the environment variable command for it?
[12:42] <Evert234> this is the how to which says how i have to install ndiswrapper, i'm trying to get my Siemens Gigaset Usb Adapter 108  running
[12:42] <Evert234> http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/Ubuntu_Guide_To_install_Wireless_Cards_CARDS_PCMCIA_RT2500_54mbit_Siemens_Gigaset_108_USB_Adapter
[12:42] <imachine> anyway, can someone help me sort out the issue with those pacages?
[12:42] <MrWhammy> Hi all, small question here: I have an ntfs-partition containing all my music. Unfortunately if I start Rythmbox before I mount the partition (by clicking it in Places, Removable media), it loses track of all files and when I start it again it has to reload all files (40 gig, takes about 10 minutes). Very annoying, so two questions: why does Ubuntu think my ntfs-partition is removable media and why doesn't it automount?
[12:42] <webmaster> Кто шарит на русском.
[12:42] <imachine> how can I package files
[12:42] <webmaster> ?
[12:42] <dr_willis> Stalker72,  No idea. I normally plug in my speakers and let them alone for years on end.. occasionally i put in headphones in the heaphone jack
[12:42] <Kartagis> onetinsoldier, yes i am :)
[12:42] <imachine> webmaster, try #ubuntu.ru or smth
[12:43] <dr_willis> Stalker72,  yoru speakers proberly cost more then my whole PC.
[12:43] <Stalker72> dr_willis: xD
[12:43] <ramon> i am trying to install some stuff and in the terminal i get a message saying i dont have enough space in device...i install a new hard drive and i dont know how to use it for purpose...anyone able to help me?...the hard drive is already in use and working though
[12:44] <anstei>  hi, i just upgraded to ubuntu 8.10 from 8.04. pidgin worked fine before, but now it says that tls/ssl libs are missing, but in aptitude they seem to be installed. any ideas besides compiling myself?
[12:44] <memphis_> evert93, which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[12:44] <dr_willis> ramon,  you actually configured the hard drive in some way? or did ya just plug it in and expect it to work?
[12:44] <Evert234> 8.10
[12:44] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: ok.. you know how to install it i imagine...   apt-get install kernel-package
[12:44] <sinbox> Rictoo, not sure you can with just alsa go ask in #alsa
[12:44] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: here's how to run it...
[12:44] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: 1)  make-kpkg clean ; export VER=$(date +'%Y%m%d') NAMEEXT="-$(hostname)-$(dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH)"
[12:44] <Rictoo> thanks sinbox
[12:45] <Stalker72> dr_willis: Ohh wait.. There's a pod connected to the speakers which has two holes; one for headphones and one for mic (I think).. I might be able to use it for headphones.
[12:45] <memphis_> hit applications --> add/remove software and search for Windows Drivers (or something like that)
[12:45] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: 2) make-kpkg --revision=$VER --append-to-version=$NAMEEXT --rootcmd --initrd kernel_image kernel_headers modules_image
[12:45] <dr_willis> Stalker72,  often if you got somthing in the headphones jack. it auto-disabvles the  speakers.
[12:45] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: wait.. i need to redo #2
[12:45] <Stalker72> dr_willis: That's fine.
[12:45] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: 2) make-kpkg --revision=$VER --append-to-version=$NAMEEXT --initrd kernel_image kernel_headers modules_image
[12:45] <dr_willis> Stalker72,  of course i wonder how one gets 5.1+ sound out of a headphone jack to high end speakers... seems like somthings going to get lost.
[12:46] <matthias_> ramon:  what do you mean ???, if the HD is full then you can not i guess by checking with df it will tell if the hard drive is full or not
[12:46] <cizra> Hi
[12:46] <cizra> How to see the major/minor device numbers in Ubuntu?
[12:46] <cizra> In debian the "file" utility shows them
[12:46] <ramon> dr_willis i did installed the hard drive and is working...i even set it up for manage it on the graphical interface...but this is one of the messages which is the problem..../usr/bin/mandb: can't write to /var/cache/man/ko/5849: No space left on device
[12:46] <Evert234> memphis, do i need a internet connection to do that? im trying to set up a connection, so i don't have one right now
[12:46] <Kartagis> onetinsoldier, do i run it before or after the make?
[12:46] <Stalker72> dr_willis: Oohh. I have one more question. I think Linux finds my speakers as 2.1 speakers (they are physically 2.1), but they produce 5.1 sound. How do I solve that? :P
[12:47] <Evert234> Siemens Gigaset Usb adapter 108 is a WLAN receiver
[12:47] <dr_willis> ramon,  where is the new drive being mounted to? just mounting it will not free up space on the first hard drive.. You may nee dto move your /home/ or other  directories over to it..  to  free ups pace on the first hd.
[12:47] <ramon> dr_willis in /media/mynewdrive
[12:47] <memphis_> yea, you need a working internet connection for the install of ndiswrapper
[12:48] <sinbox> Evert234, not sure you need ndiswrapper for this one
[12:49] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: you do the make menuconfig. then i recommend you make a backup of your .config file, like so --> cp -v .config ../config-config-linux-2.6.28-rc7-git1 (for example).    then... run the 'make-kpkg commands i gave you
[12:49] <leon> hi
[12:49] <leon> merry chris all
[12:50] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: you never do the 'make' command.. the 'make-kpkg' command i gave replace the 'make' command
[12:50] <leon> anyone use wicd on ubuntu?
[12:51] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: the 'make-kpkg' commands i gave you replace doing the 'make' command. understood?
[12:51]  * cizra feels ignored )=
[12:51] <leon> i stall wicd on ubuntu , but now ubuntu startup very slow!
[12:51] <Kartagis> yes thanks
[12:52] <Dompie> Hi, does anyone know why VLC won't stream wma2 audio?
[12:52] <onetinsoldier> cizra: good question, just keep asking it every 5 minutes or so. you'll get an answer eventually
[12:53] <anstei>  hi, i just upgraded to ubuntu 8.10 from 8.04. pidgin worked fine before, but now it says that tls/ssl libs are missing, but in aptitude they seem to be installed. any ideas besides compiling myself?
[12:53] <ramon> dr_willis you there?
[12:53] <cizra> onetinsoldier: Heh. Well, actually I'm trying to figure out the major/minors for /dev/hda1. Happen to have one?
[12:53] <dr_willis> hmmm?
[12:53] <sinbox> actually Evert234 my mistakes it seems you do need ndiswrapper, and you do need an internet connection of some sort to get the drivers
[12:53] <leon> ramon , you can search apt-cache search ssl
[12:54] <orgthingy> so, i messed up with permissions again and wanna use chown to fix this
[12:54] <cizra> anstei: ldd `which pidgin`, check if the libs are there
[12:54] <orgthingy> but i seem to have little problem: chown: cannot access `/home/orgthingy/.gvfs': Permission
[12:54] <sinbox> Dompie, ask in #videolan channel
[12:54] <dr_willis> ramon,  mounting the new drive someplace does not free up any space on the other drive.
[12:54] <ramon> leon would you explain
[12:54] <cizra> anstei: Perhaps you compiled pidgin yourself?
[12:54] <leon> let me check
[12:54] <ramon> dr_willis i know that but how i do then?
[12:54] <leon> private msh to me
[12:54] <onetinsoldier> cizra: have you tried  ls -l /dev/hda1  ??
[12:54] <Dompie> sinbox: ok thnsk
[12:55] <orgthingy> nvm, i solved problem after asking :P bye
[12:55] <dr_willis> ramon,  move stuff over.. mount new drive in  proper place..  ie: if you decide to move all of /homes over.. then mount new drive at /homes
[12:55] <rinsmaster> anstei, check to which version pidgin is compiled, do: ldd /usr/bin/pidgin
[12:55] <MrWhammy>  have an ntfs-partition containing all my music. Unfortunately if I start Rythmbox before I mount the partition (by clicking it in Places, Removable media), it loses track of all files and when I start it again it has to reload all files (40 gig, takes about 10 minutes). Very annoying, so two questions: why does Ubuntu think my ntfs-partition is removable media and why doesn't it automount? Or better, how can I fix it :) ? It used 
[12:55] <rinsmaster> anstei, then check which version you have in /usr/lib
[12:55] <dr_willis> ramon,  or move /tmp over and link /tmp to /media/newdrive/tmp
[12:55] <dr_willis> ramon,  totally depends on yoru system and setup and whats taking up all the space
[12:56] <cizra> onetinsoldier: O, really, thanks
[12:56] <ramon> dr_willis  how do i mount the hd to become part of the system then?
[12:57] <onetinsoldier> cizra: did that work ok for you. get you what you were looking for?
[12:57] <dr_willis> ramon,  edit fstab.. same as you set any other mountpoint
[12:57] <cizra> onetinsoldier: Well, I learned how to see the device numbers
[12:57] <cizra> onetinsoldier: Still have to find out the right numbers, though.
[12:58] <onetinsoldier> cizra: ok...
[12:58] <onetinsoldier> cizra: i don't have an hda1.. mine are /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2
[12:58] <cizra> onetinsoldier: Yes, that's the Ubuntu way
[12:58] <hspaans> ubuntu way?
[12:59] <onetinsoldier> cizra: brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 1 2008-12-25 19:11 /dev/sda1
[12:59] <cizra> hspaans: Yes, Ubuntu prefers to access all disks through SCSI emulation
[12:59] <cizra> onetinsoldier: Doesn't help, but still thanks
[12:59] <onetinsoldier> cizra: ok, roger
[13:00] <dr_willis> more and more disrots are doing the 'every disk is a scsi disk' way now a datys it seems
[13:00] <hspaans> cizra: no, its kernel 2.6 and sata, it has nothing todo with ubuntu
[13:00] <anstei> rinsmaster: libnspr4.so.0d, libnss3.so.1d and libssl3so.1d are there as they should be
[13:01] <cizra> hspaans: Not only SATA, IDE drives are sd* in Ubuntu as well.
[13:01] <rinsmaster> anstei, strange then, try reinstalling pidgin
[13:02] <hspaans> cizra: yes that is kernel 2.6 since they are rewriting the IDE-subsystem
[13:02] <cizra> hspaans: Well, are you claiming that ALL kernel 2.6 uses /dev/sd* for all disks?
[13:02] <cizra> hspaans: You must be mistaken because mine does not.
[13:02] <hspaans> cizra: there is nothing ubuntu about it
[13:03] <hspaans> cizra: which part of rewrite did you not understand?
[13:03] <cizra> hspaans: Well, I personally have my IDE disks as /dev/hd*. And I am truly running kernel 2.6. How do you explain that?
[13:03] <isle85> Hi, I try to find help to create a package for Ubuntu. The program is a java one, which doesn't need any compilation.
[13:04] <hspaans> cizra: then you're chipset is still running in pata-mode instead of sata-mode
[13:04] <cizra> hspaans: Mm.. OK
[13:05] <dr_willis> cizra,  from what ive seen - it often depends on the chipset/machine - i got one box that  shows hd's as hd. :) and the satas as sd. but its an old machine
[13:05] <cizra> Oh geez
[13:05] <Valenstein> hello! can anyone help?
[13:05]  * cizra is mucking around in initrds trying to make his ext4 root mount again
[13:05] <hischild> !ask | Valenstein
[13:06] <Valenstein> ok...
[13:06] <hspaans> cizra: but just use LVM or UUID to get rid of the issues
[13:06] <isle85> need help to create an Ubuntu package
[13:07] <cizra> hspaans: I use LVM, it's nifty. But now I don't have a kernel/initrd combo capable of mounting my ext4 root )=
[13:07] <gizmo> what is 'su' <--means
[13:07] <ortsvorsteher> gizmo: su means switch user...
[13:07] <cizra> hspaans: I haven't had so much fun for ages.
[13:07] <incidence> man su
[13:07] <dr_willis> gizmo,  learn to use 'sudo' not 'su'
[13:07] <dr_willis> !sudo | gizmo
[13:07] <hspaans> cizra: ok ;-)
[13:08] <cizra> dr_willis: sudo su 9=
[13:08] <hspaans> cizra: if you think lvm is nifty, try zfs and zfsboot on solaris ;-)
[13:08] <onetinsoldier> cizra: if you wish to find out the UUID of a device to put into your fstab, install 'blkid'
[13:09] <dr_willis> ciza what are we trying to do? one does not need to do 'sudo su'  -- Use 'sudo -s'
[13:09] <Zmajci> After upgrading from gutsy to hardy, numeric pad don't work: i suppose it must be something with X keyb configuration that conflicts with gnome. The command for re-setting x? dpkg ?? (thanks)
[13:09] <rinsmaster> or sudo bash :P
[13:09] <dr_willis> do NOT use sudo su, or sudo bash. use 'sudo -s' or 'sudo -i'
[13:09] <cizra> dr_willis: Heh, indeed. Didn't know about that one.
[13:09] <cizra> dr_willis: Why NOT sudo su?
[13:10] <dr_willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[13:10] <dr_willis> go read
[13:10] <brutus> where does the command- "bunzip2 -c xxx.tar.bz2 | tar xf - " unpack the stuff to?
[13:10] <dr_willis>  its redunaant and MAY not set up the settings properly cizra
[13:10] <Valenstein> i am novice in ubuntu so... when i try to install something in terminal it asks for root user password... what to do?
[13:10] <cizra> brutus: PWD
[13:10] <mannn26> yups
[13:10] <cizra> dr_willis: OK
[13:10] <cizra> brutus: .. assuming tar has removed the leading slashes, which it usually does.
[13:11] <brutus> cizra, thank you
[13:11] <onetinsoldier> sudo su? kinda redundant seems to me
[13:11] <ortsvorsteher> Valenstein: try to give him your user password
[13:12] <Valenstein> tried... doesn't work..
[13:12] <ortsvorsteher> Valenstein: how do you install programs? with sudo?
[13:12] <gizmo> so im not the root?
[13:12] <dr_willis> command line tools to do 'system type tasks' MUST use sudo normally
[13:12] <onetinsoldier> Valenstein: what are you trying to install?
[13:13] <dr_willis> sudo SOME-special-system-altering-command
[13:13] <dr_willis> :)
[13:13] <Kartagis> onetinsoldier, I have a different question. i want to make an image of a cd. should i use genisoimage or dd?
[13:13] <eugene_> hi! I am rather new to Ubuntu and have a problems that I can't solve. :( Could anyone help me?
[13:13] <ortsvorsteher> just ask eugene_
[13:13] <cizra> Kartagis: Um, do you want to copy the CD into the hard disk or vice versa?
[13:13] <onetinsoldier> Valenstein: sudo apt-get install <package_name>
[13:14] <Valenstein> hmm... i just typing "./Install" while in the directory the file is there... install is the file that i need to run...
[13:14] <Kartagis> cizra, i want to make an iso file
[13:14] <cizra> Valenstein: sudo ./Install then. What's that package, by the way?
[13:14] <dmizer> need a graphical sftp client ... filezilla is a no go because i can't use the my openssh keys. sshfs is a no go because i don't want to allow shell access. what other options do i have here?
[13:14] <cizra> Kartagis: mkisofs or genisoimage then
[13:14] <cizra> Kartagis: .. if you want to make it out of files lying around your hard drive
[13:14] <cizra> Kartagis: or dd if you want to make it out of an existing CD.
[13:14] <gizmo> in using my terminal..how im going to be a root?
[13:14] <Zygot> eugene_: you need to elaborate a little
[13:14] <Kartagis> !anyone | eugene_
[13:15] <cizra> gizmo: sudo -s makes you a root
[13:15] <dmizer> ﻿gizmo: to get a root prompt, type sudo -i
[13:15] <dr_willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[13:16] <eugene_> Thanks! Basically the problem is that all the games here crash. The video freezes with some weird artifact on the screen. I ran the hardware test and it says that my resolution is "impossible with fglrx". My resolution should be 1920x1200. I tried installing the latest ATI drivers but that doesn't help
[13:16] <Zygot> eugene_: ouch
[13:16] <dmizer> ﻿gizmo ... or just prefix all your commands with "sudo" and avoid the root prompt all together.
[13:16] <amalji> where can i get 3d games for ubuntu ?
[13:16] <Valenstein> yes.. sudo ./Install... it's package of internet dialer installer... so it asks for root password..
[13:16] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: hmmm, i don't do much of that kind of thing. i would think might end up wanto to use both... piping the dd into genisoimage? i don't now really. seems like you'd need to make the image of your filesystem, then pass it along to the genisoimage. but let me know if you find out the correct way to do it!
[13:16] <amalji> I would like to test my graphics card performance on ubuntu
[13:17] <wet> alalji, getdeb
[13:17] <Dvyjones> Hi! I'm trying to compile WINE with OpenGL, but it complains about no OpenGL-library on the system. Which packages do I need to install to get OpenGL libraries?
[13:17] <Zmajci> After upgrade, the numeric pad does not work (num lock IS on), everything else is ok. Some ideas on why?
[13:17] <cizra> amalji: aptitude install openarena
[13:17] <cizra> Dvyjones: something with mesa
[13:17] <Zygot> Kartagis: rip the cd?
[13:17] <sidewalk> what application do you guys recommend for sharing optical devices from one Ubuntu machine to another Ubuntu machine?
[13:17] <sidewalk> sharing over the network
[13:18] <Kartagis> onetinsoldier, I am using genisoimage -R -o file.iso /media/cdrom0
[13:18] <cizra> sidewalk: ssh (=
[13:18] <selkies> guys how can i make dual boot after reinstalling d xp ??
[13:18] <dr_willis> sidewalk,  nfs can do that, or samba has ways to automount the optical disk.
[13:18] <Dvyjones> cizra: libgl1-mesa-dev?
[13:18] <cizra> Kartagis: OMG
[13:18] <dr_willis> sidewalk,  or use sshfs.
[13:18] <Valenstein> cizra: yes.. sudo ./Install... it's package of internet dialer installer... so it asks for root password..
[13:18] <Kartagis> Zygot, no, I want to make a perfect copy
[13:18] <cizra> Kartagis: Why didn't you say you're trying to copy a CD into your computer?
[13:18] <eugene_> Zygot: is that some kind of common problem?
[13:18] <onetinsoldier> Kartagis: ok.. i was just going to say, i reread your message. yeah.. i think all you need is genisoimage
[13:18] <dmizer> a gui sftp client. filezilla is a no go. any ideas?
[13:18] <amalji> thank you cizra
[13:18] <cizra> Valenstein: ohm. umm.. well, make a root password?
[13:18] <amalji> :)
[13:18] <cizra> Dvyjones: I dunno
[13:18] <Valenstein> cizra: how?
[13:19] <cizra> Valenstein: type sudo passwd root
[13:19] <Kartagis> cizra, I said I want to make an iso image didn't I?
[13:19] <cizra> Kartagis: You didn't say out of what.
[13:19] <hischild> cizra, Please don't suggest setting a root password unless you'll be here 24/7 to help with the problems.
[13:19] <cizra> hischild: eh. Well, if a script asks for a root password.. OK, I'll shut up now.
[13:19] <amalji> any 3d strategy games on linux ?
[13:20] <Dvyjones> !opengl
[13:20] <Valenstein> well... i have to go thanks for the help!
[13:20] <hischild> cizra, then run the script as root
[13:20] <fivetwentysix> amalji: linux people don't play games..
[13:20] <dr_willis> amalji,  warzone2020 I think is one. :) depends on what you need/want
[13:20] <amalji> yeah.. .I know.... :)
[13:20] <dr_willis> !find warzone
[13:20] <sh1m0n> Hi, I'm new to ubuntu and after installing, which worked pretty fine, i habe a little issue with my apple keyboard. The "<" and "^" are substituted. Using the Keyboard Manager (don't know the exact Name of it) didn't help to change those two keys.... Does anyone have any advice ?
[13:20] <dr_willis> oops 2100 :) not 2020
[13:21] <cizra> fivetwentysix: wrong (=
[13:21] <selkies> will it still dual boot after reinstalling xp ?
[13:21] <amalji> Even I don't play it... Just wanted to try out how it works... So that I can turn a few game freaks into linux users.. :)
[13:21] <hischild> fivetwentysix, i still game loads.
[13:21] <fivetwentysix> sh1m0n, You forgot to set the keyboard type..
[13:21] <cizra> amalji: OpenGL strategy? Warzone1100
[13:21] <sidewalk> so samba is the best way to share optical devices over the network?
[13:21] <cizra> amalji: Or, yeah, whatever the number was
[13:21] <eugene_> so is there really no ideas about "impossible with fglrx resolution"? :'(
[13:21] <sidewalk> with automount and stuff like that
[13:21] <dr_willis> sidewalk, its one way.. it depends on the details
[13:21] <fivetwentysix> sh1m0n, Goto system - > preferences - > keyboard
[13:21] <sh1m0n> i set it up as an aplle keyboard
[13:21] <cizra> sh1m0n: xmodmap
[13:21] <dr_willis> sidewalk,  automounting new media may be a bit more complex.. You could just share /media/
[13:22] <sh1m0n> xmodmap?
[13:22] <cizra> sh1m0n: (the difficult but powerful way)
[13:22] <sidewalk> dr_willis: well i pretty much want to stick a cd or a dvd in one machine, and have them appear on another machine
[13:22] <sh1m0n> :-s
[13:22] <cizra> sh1m0n: So, try other ways first (=
[13:22] <selkies> will it still dual boot after reinstalling xp ?
[13:22] <sh1m0n> i will, u know any other?
[13:22] <dr_willis> sidewalk,  i dont think thats going to automacially happen.
[13:22] <Zmajci> selkies: XP will overwrite grub... make sure you have a supergrub disk on hand :)
[13:22] <cizra> selkies: Prolly not, it'll run over your boto loader with a steam roller, I guess.
[13:22] <dmizer> ﻿﻿i need a gui sftp client. i'm using xubuntu (no nautils) filezilla doesn't work. help?
[13:23] <dr_willis> sidewalk,  i even HATE that automount/popup stuff on a local machine. :)
[13:23] <sidewalk> dr_willis: so you mean that there are applications for this for Mac OSX, but not for Ubuntu?
[13:23] <hischild> dmizer, sshfs ?
[13:23] <selkies> Zmajci: wat is supergrub... plz elaborate
[13:23] <dmizer> ﻿hischild sshfs doesn't work because i don't have a shell on the server.
[13:23] <dr_willis> sidewalk,  my APple Machine is a DoorStop.
[13:23] <selkies> cizra: how can i then make it dual boot?..
[13:23] <hischild> dmizer, you got ssh access?
[13:24] <dr_willis> sidewalk,  If you want to compare/contrast/rant/rave about OS's thats for the Offtopic channel.
[13:24] <dmizer> ﻿hischild no.
[13:24] <dmizer> ﻿hischild i can sftp in with winscp without a problem though.
[13:24] <sidewalk> dr_willis: no, i want a solution for my two ubuntu machines, for a problem which Mac OSX already has solved
[13:24] <mkultra> hello
[13:24] <dr_willis> sidewalk,  it can be done with samba - ive seen it done ages ago or at least somthing similer. but  you are getting onto the deeper layers of the OS.  GnomeAutoMounting -> samba-> remote-box automounting stuff.. so thers a lot of  things that can do wrong.
[13:25] <ortsvorsteher> !hello
[13:25] <dr_willis> sidewalk,  i would use sshfs to mount  /media/  and see if that work
[13:25] <hischild> dmizer, from what i know that also uses ssh for it's connections.
[13:25] <ANDIKYU> rtrrtrttr
[13:25] <Zmajci> selkies: supergrub is an utility... http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[13:25] <ANDIKYU> hk
[13:25] <dmizer> ﻿hischild yes it does, but it does not get a shell.
[13:26] <dmizer> ﻿hischild sshfs requires a shell.
[13:26] <cizra> selkies: um, someone mentioned supergrub or something
[13:26] <dmizer> ﻿hischild i am trying to connect to a chrooted sftp server.
[13:26] <fivetwentysix> sigh
[13:26] <ANDIKYU> arief
[13:26] <hischild> dmizer, i see. Sorry then, out of idea's.
[13:26] <dmizer> ﻿hischild yeesh.
[13:27] <selkies> Zmajci: so after reinstalling xp.. will i need it to run from xp (supergrub)
[13:27] <cizra> selkies: no, it's probably a bootable CD
[13:28] <selkies> cizra: can u elaborate on how to use it.. i am quite new to linux..
[13:29] <cizra> selkies: I have no idea, I've never seen it. But I bet it's an ISO image you need to download and burn, then boot the computer from the supergrub CD.
[13:30]  * hspaans notices that this can also be done with the livecd
[13:30] <Zmajci> selkies: if you reinstall XP on a dual boot machine, XP will overwrite grub (bootloader). With supergrub you can re-install your dual boot loader. Supergrub is an utility: you can use it from XP or from a floppy or CD (check out the web page http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ )
[13:30] <mne> hi. How can I enable the "exposee" feature in compiz that is similar to Mac OS X ? I already enabled the "expo" compiz plugin. But instead of the OS X exposee effect it shows all desktops on one pane instead which is not what I want.
[13:31] <selkies> Zmajci: thanks a lot fren.. had been struggling wid it for a while..
[13:31] <jacobw-uk> hmm i hate a hp laptop with a broadcom card that has magically managed to forget all about the existance of the broadcom card. hmm... stupid proprietary hardware. (its windows, not even using unsupported free s/w)
[13:31] <jacobw-uk> *have
[13:31] <selkies> cizra: thanks for the help...
[13:32] <aiikii> I want to speak Chinese. Which IRC server is better please?
[13:32] <CastilleV> Just curious. But if you uninstall a program, isn't there a command to delete any orphaned files and old directories?
[13:33] <hspaans> CastilleV: which files/dirs?
[13:33] <jacobw-uk> CastilleV: rings a bell. google for deborphan
[13:33] <jacobw-uk> CastilleV: i'm pretty sure dpkg can do that
[13:34] <CastilleV> I mean, like. Lets say I uninstall firefox or opera. Isn't there a directory even after its uninstalled?
[13:34] <hspaans> CastilleV: /etc/package.config for example or /var/cache/package? then purge the package
[13:34] <CastilleV> Alright. I was curious about that.
[13:34] <hischild> !ci | aiikii
[13:34] <hischild> !ch
[13:34] <Halitech> CastilleV, you may have a hidden folder in your home folder with your personal config files
[13:34] <hischild> !chinese | aiikii
[13:34] <Zmajci> after upgrading my numpad just won't work... some suggestions? i need to reconfigure gnome and X keyb settings. How can i do it?
[13:35] <jacobw-uk> CastilleV: http://tinyurl.com/8jthwn
[13:35] <aiikii> thanks.
[13:35] <CastilleV> Could I get the longer URL?
[13:35] <CastilleV> I don't click tinyurl links....
[13:35] <petur> Hi friends, im looking for an xmms-like player..to be used from the CLI
[13:36] <hspaans> jacobw-uk: sudo apt-get autoremove --purge is a safer option for most users
[13:36] <petur> hmm
[13:36] <petur> and bout my player :)
[13:36] <petur> any ideas?
[13:36] <CastilleV> like sudo apt-get autoremove firefox -purge?
[13:37] <kikokos> hi i installed ubuntu on asus eee and i have no choose between lcd/crt, could anybody tell me little how to? in google is many themes but for ubuntu 7.04
[13:37] <Halitech> petur, have you looked at moc?
[13:37] <petur> Halitech: going for it aws
[13:37] <lsdkjflksdj> afternoon. i'm helping my brother install ubuntu on his laptop. the install cd didn't seem to work with his laptop so i stuck it in my laptop, installed it and put it back in his. it boots up ok, gets to the login screen, but after he logs in it doesn't progress. how can i get ubuntu to try and detect the new hardware? thanks.
[13:38] <Halitech> petur, I don't know much about it but its supposed to be for music on console so hopefully it will be what you need
[13:38] <petur> 3~Thank you Halitech
[13:38] <Halitech> petur, welcome
[13:39] <cizra> WTF
[13:39] <cizra> I always thought my CPU is too cheap to be cpufreqable
[13:39] <cizra> .. until I ran grml LiveCD
[13:39] <hischild> !enter
[13:40] <mrwes> re
[13:42] <mrwes> Does Amarok see a DAAP share from mt-daapd?
[13:42] <Zmajci> ﻿after upgrading my numpad just won't work (num lock IS on)... some suggestions?
[13:43] <v4vijayakumar> hi, mozilla-plugin-gnash installed in my system, but I couldn't see some youtube videos
[13:43] <mrwes> Does Amarok see a DAAP share from mt-daapd?
[13:46] <onetinsoldier> v4vijayakumar: hi, what is the output of ther following?  -->  lsb_releasr -r && uname -m
[13:46] <onetinsoldier> v4vijayakumar: hi, what is the output of the following?  -->  lsb_release -r && uname -m
[13:46] <snypzz> I would like to know where I can find UBUNTU MOBILE and if it works on the Cingular 8925...??
[13:47] <v4vijayakumar>  lsb_releasr: command not found
[13:47] <v4vijayakumar> :)
[13:47] <onetinsoldier> ya
[13:47] <cizra> snypzz: Perhaps you meant Ubuntu CE?
[13:47] <snypzz> ok...?
[13:47] <onetinsoldier> v4vijayakumar: i can be a terrible typist sometimes
[13:47] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[13:47] <silv3r_m00n> i installed phppgadmin... now how can i access it from the browser ?
[13:47] <onetinsoldier> howdy
[13:48] <v4vijayakumar> 8.10 / x86_64
[13:48] <silv3r_m00n> waht shud be the url ?
[13:48] <snypzz> Ubutu CE does it work on the Cingular 8925...?
[13:49] <onetinsoldier> v4vijayakumar: ok, completely uninstall the mozilla-plugin-gnash  --> apt-get --purge mozilla-plugin-gnash
[13:49] <zwobble> hey there
[13:49] <v4vijayakumar> onetinsoldier: any codecs missing in my system ??
[13:49] <zwobble> im looking for a DownloadSpeed manager, I'd like to cap my Klibido Download speed
[13:49] <hischild> onetinsoldier, apt-get remove --purge
[13:50] <zwobble> Is there something like that available for Ubuntu?
[13:50] <onetinsoldier> hischild: oops, thanks
[13:50] <onetinsoldier> i am too used to just using dpkg
[13:50] <hischild> onetinsoldier, np
[13:50] <onetinsoldier> v4vijayakumar: completely uninstall the mozilla-plugin-gnash  --> apt-get remove --purge mozilla-plugin-gnash
[13:50] <mrwes> silv3r_m00n: you tried http://localhost/phppgadmin
[13:51] <mrwes> or http://127.0.0.1/phppgadmin
[13:51] <onetinsoldier> v4vijayakumar: you probably aren't missing any codecs. it's a flash on x86_64 issue
[13:51] <silv3r_m00n> mrwes: yeah ...didnt work
[13:51] <cizra> snypzz: Sorry, I was poking fun out of you. There is no Ubuntu CE, nor Ubunt Mobile (as far as I know). And I don't know if that Cingular thingie would run Linux. Try http://justfuckinggoogleit.com.
[13:51] <mrwes> silv3r_m00n: you might need a symbolic link: sudo ln -s /usr/share/phppgadmin /var/www/phppgadmin
[13:51] <onetinsoldier> v4vijayakumar: after removing mozilla-plugin-gnash, go here --> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[13:52] <mrwes> type that from a terminla
[13:52] <v4vijayakumar> but, I am able to see some videos
[13:52] <mrwes> terminal*
[13:52] <silv3r_m00n> mrwes: how can i see the current symlinks..
[13:52] <snypzz> thanks for the info, youtube you may see ubuntu mobile for yourself....
[13:52] <snypzz> it's going to be AWSOME !!!!
[13:52] <onetinsoldier> v4vijayakumar: at the bottom of that page download flash for x86_64
[13:53] <silv3r_m00n> mrwes: i mean whatever symlinks are there
[13:53] <silv3r_m00n> mrwes: it worked
[13:53] <mrwes> silv3r_m00n: look in /var/www and then do a ls -al
[13:53] <onetinsoldier> v4vijayakumar: then close out firefox... tell me when you've done all that
[13:54] <mrwes> :)
[13:54] <v4vijayakumar> ok done, I have done it through synaptic package manager
[13:54] <zwobble> Is there a bandwidth manager for Ubuntu?
[13:55] <silv3r_m00n> mrwes: i went into phpphadmin ... but like i need to provide a password....while installation from synaptic it never asked me for a password :-?
[13:55] <tony_> This is probably a stupid question, but I need help making my gigabeat mp3 player with rockbox read/write so I can actually put music on it.
[13:55] <silv3r_m00n> now what is the username and password
[13:56] <onetinsoldier> v4vijayakumar: ok... now  cd ~/.mozilla && mkdir plugins
[13:56] <AMDMutant> zwobble: trickle
[13:56] <v4vijayakumar> alpha release ?? :)
[13:56] <zwobble> Is trickle capable of handling applications like Klibido?
[13:56]  * _anigma directs zwobble to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=720244
[13:56] <DarkKnight> v4vijayakumar; indian??
[13:56] <onetinsoldier> v4vijayakumar: don't worry, it's better than a lot of beta releases
[13:57] <zwobble> tnx :)
[13:57] <silv3r_m00n> mrwes: what is the commandline command for postgresql ?
[13:57] <v4vijayakumar> DarkKnight, yes
[13:58] <DarkKnight> v4vijayakumar; which part of india??
[13:58] <AMDMutant> should be
[13:58] <v4vijayakumar> tamilnadu
[13:59] <tony_> How can I change the permissions on my mp3 player so I can add music to it?
[13:59] <onetinsoldier> v4vijayakumar: ok, are you in ~/.mozilla and have you made the 'plugins' directory in there?
[14:00] <v4vijayakumar> onetinsoldier, ~/.mozilla/firefox/plugin or ~/.mozilla/plugin   ??
[14:00] <onetinsoldier> v4vijayakumar: ok... now  cd ~/.mozilla && mkdir plugins
[14:00] <onetinsoldier> v4vijayakumar: what is the output of   pwd  ??
[14:01] <v4vijayakumar> onetinsoldier, ~/.mozilla/firefox/plugin or ~/.mozilla/plugin   ??
[14:01] <v4vijayakumar> onetinsoldier, ~/.mozilla/firefox/plugins or ~/.mozilla/plugins   ??
[14:02] <onetinsoldier> v4vijayakumar: just to do the following... cd ~/.mozilla && mkdir plugins && cd plugins
[14:02] <cizra> Any ideas on how to debug balky bootloaders on headless boxes? For some reason the boot process stalls somewhere and since the box is headless, I'm out of ideas.
[14:02] <tony_> How can I change the permissions on my mp3 player so I can add music to it?
[14:02] <jacobw-uk> cizra: difficult heh
[14:02] <v4vijayakumar> onetinsoldier, done ~/.mozilla/plugins
[14:03] <bashca> how can resolve this  error Errors were encountered while processing:
[14:03] <bashca>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libvlc0_0.9.8a+x264snapshot20080928+faad2.6.1+2-1~ppa1_i386.deb
[14:03] <cizra> jacobw-uk: I'm not even sure the kernel loads -- the USB stick LED doesn't blink all that much. But it loads on a, um, headful box.
[14:03] <onetinsoldier> v4vijayakumar: ok, good...  now tar -xzvf /path/to/libflashplayer-10.0.d21.1.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz -C .
[14:04] <imanaligator2> can any one give me a tip of a easy to use ftp server with an easy gui
[14:04] <AMDMutant> cizra: so make a head
[14:04] <cizra> AMDMutant: Give 'em a head, right. But I can't, this is a laptop with a dead video card.
[14:04] <AMDMutant> cizra: cool
[14:04] <jacobw-uk> cizra: i don't really have any experience with stuff like that but i'd stick a monitor on it until i got it net booting fine before i went headless
[14:05] <jacobw-uk> ahh ok
[14:05] <onetinsoldier> v4vijayakumar: once you done that, open up firefox and put in the address bar  -->  about:plugins   ..see that it's installed, look at the version and make sure it looks correct
[14:05] <jacobw-uk> cizra: is there an external monitor port on the laptop?
[14:05] <cizra> Yes, but the video card is dead.
[14:05] <jacobw-uk> oh right yeah
[14:05] <AMDMutant> cizra: buy a new one
[14:06] <cizra> Also, this is the lesser of two problems -- my main one is that I can't make an initrd able to boot my ext4 root...
[14:06] <cizra> AMDMutant: And stick it where? I believe they're soldered in.
[14:06] <jacobw-uk> cizra: you sound quite an exotic user :p
[14:06] <AMDMutant> cizra: new laptop
[14:06] <cizra> AMDMutant: Buy? Why? I got this one for free (=
[14:06] <bashca> any help  please ??
[14:06] <cizra> jacobw-uk: I am (=
[14:06] <cizra> bashca: This is not the complete error.
[14:07] <cizra> bashca: Something must have been logged before this one. Tell us it.
[14:07] <AMDMutant> cizra: no wonder...
[14:07] <tony_> How can I change the permissions on my mp3 player so I can add music to it?
[14:07] <v4vijayakumar> onetinsoldier, many thanks, it works :)
[14:08] <cizra> tony_: Just remove the "Beware of the leopard" sign. Have you already tried googlinG?
[14:08] <onetinsoldier> v4vijayakumar: very good. :-) you're welcome, enjoy!
[14:08] <AMDMutant> tony_: mostly must be sudo
[14:08] <bashca> cizra, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m25c6286d
[14:09] <amortvigil> is it hard to change kde4 like you could in kde 3?
[14:09] <tony_> I have tried googling, and it brought me here.
[14:09] <AMDMutant> tony_: if you cant chmod it
[14:09] <AMDMutant> wow goole rocks!
[14:09] <AMDMutant> wow google rocks!
[14:10] <DarkKnight> hey anyone tell me how to edit httpd.conf
[14:10] <cizra> bashca: These two packages are conflicting on that file, /lib/something. I guess you'll need to remove the libvlc2 package, but this might break something else again.
[14:10] <tony_> Thanks.
[14:10] <AMDMutant> DarkKnight: what you want to do exactly?
[14:11] <onetinsoldier> anyone here interested in a really great frontend gui to the 'find' command that shows the command syntax by example?
[14:11] <AMDMutant> DarkKnight: offcourse you use editor
[14:11] <elvisfuentes> some have downloaded a linux distro by jigdo?
[14:11] <DarkKnight> AMDMutant; i am trying to install drupal and LAMP and i am following the instructions at  http://drupal.org/node/337026
[14:12] <root> hi
[14:12] <onetinsoldier> !hi
[14:13] <snypzz> hello all, really enjoy ubuntu
[14:13] <onetinsoldier> root: are you irc'ing as root user?
[14:13] <Guest22999> no one
[14:13] <Guest22999> yes
[14:13] <Guest22999> what
[14:13] <snypzz> look forward to getting the most of with and from OPEN SOURCE....
[14:13] <onetinsoldier> Guest22999: are you irc'ing as root user in linux?
[14:14] <AMDMutant> DarkKnight: /home/USER/workspace ?
[14:14] <netfrik> Need lil'bit of relief from your intellectual activities on Linux?  Check out "Savage2" -> http://savage2.s2games.com  for Linux ;)
[14:14] <joaopinto> !ot | netfrik
[14:14] <AMDMutant> DarkKnight: i'm bit lazzy thought
[14:15] <cizra> Anyone use kernel 2.6.28 on an i386? I'd need some help..
[14:15] <DarkKnight> AMDMutant; no..there is an instruction which asks us to edit apache2.conf......the command runs this way:  sudo nano /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[14:15] <DarkKnight> AMDMutant; a little after thathe asks to edit httpd.conf
[14:16] <AMDMutant> cizra: wow you are update!
[14:16] <DarkKnight> AMDMutant; its after setting the path
[14:16] <ANDIKYU> ..
[14:16] <ANDIKYU> fgfg
[14:16] <Tosko> Is there someone here that has knowledge about the "Load_Cycle_Count bug"?
[14:16] <cizra> AMDMutant: I've also broken my 'puter badly.
[14:16] <netfrik> ubottu:  -> AMDMutant; i am trying to install drupal and LAMP and i am following the instructions at ...? off-topic
[14:17] <AMDMutant> cizra: 2 sign to get a new one :P
[14:18] <AMDMutant> DarkKnight: you use lamp?
[14:18] <DarkKnight> AMDMutant; i am actually trying ways to get this drupal working..so that i can start my work.....i would be thankful for recieving help
[14:19] <cizra> AMDMutant: "Go buy a new computer" is one of the most annoying suggestions I've ever heard.
[14:19] <DarkKnight> AMDMutant; no...i just followed the instructions
[14:19] <AMDMutant> Installing LAMP and Drupal on localhost ubuntu hardy
[14:19] <AMDMutant> cizra: :P
[14:19] <DarkKnight> AMDMutant; ya
[14:20] <lore20> hi
[14:20] <onetinsoldier> !hello
[14:20] <lore20> I can't run gdm on my ubuntu desktop laptop
[14:20] <lore20> and i can't see anything wrong in logs
[14:20] <DarkKnight> !hello | lore20
[14:21] <onetinsoldier> lore20: well, do you know what pastebin is?
[14:21] <lore20> yes... but i'm chatting from irssi...
[14:21] <lore20> and i don't know how to upload something in pastebin with links
[14:21] <lore20> i can't start X
[14:21] <onetinsoldier> lore20: ok, doesn't matter, you casn use pastebininit
[14:22] <lore20> what's it?
[14:22] <onetinsoldier> !pasteinit
[14:22] <onetinsoldier> !pastebininit
[14:22] <onetinsoldier> lore20:  i don't have the name wuite right... hang on
[14:22] <m0niker> why irssi , low mem or just like it?
[14:23] <DarkKnight> AMDMutant; got any idea??
[14:23] <cizra> m0niker: no X
[14:23] <m0niker> ah k seee
[14:23] <onetinsoldier> !pastebinit : lore20
[14:23] <trokep> Hi, I'm a newbie. Can anyone help with mounting a Sony-Ericsson W980 phone in mass storage mode on 8.10?
[14:23] <onetinsoldier> !pastebinit | lore20
[14:23] <onetinsoldier> what? grrr
[14:23] <m0niker> maybe you can use lynx or something in another term
[14:23] <onetinsoldier> lore20: install pastebinit...   sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[14:24] <lore20> pastebinit.. i found it with apt-cache
[14:24] <lore20> ok installed
[14:24] <onetinsoldier> lore20: ok, cool. i've never used it myself, but check it out
[14:24] <hischild> !pastebin | onetinsoldier  ;-)
[14:25] <lore20> ok.. should i paste my x logs?
[14:25] <AMDMutant> DarkKnight: have you test your lampp?
[14:25] <onetinsoldier> hischild: i was looking for instructions on 'pastebinit' though ;-)
[14:25] <gizmo> paste at the pastebin
[14:25] <gizmo> !pastebin
[14:25] <DarkKnight> AMDMutant; how do i test it??
[14:25] <onetinsoldier> pastebinit guys
[14:25] <hischild> onetinsoldier, i don't think there are yet. Would be a nice suggestion for the bot.
[14:26] <lore20> http://pastebin.com/ffa77568
[14:26] <onetinsoldier> hischild: ok, roger that
[14:26] <AMDMutant> DarkKnight: where you install it? /opt/?
[14:26] <gizmo> ok
[14:26] <lore20> it's Xorg.0.log
[14:27] <dbu> hi, how do i disable compiz?
[14:27] <DarkKnight> AMDMutant; i had actually installed using Synaptic...later i uninstalled it as it was said in that site
[14:27] <AMDMutant> DarkKnight: http://localhost
[14:27] <faemir> can someone tell me the name of the driver to put in xorg.conf for the opensource ati drivers (ie not fglrx)?
[14:27] <AMDMutant> DarkKnight: oh i thought you use lampp(xampp)
[14:27] <onetinsoldier> lore20: ok, ake a description a of your problem and then at the end put something like.... and here is pastebin's of my xorg.conf file and my Xorg.0.log file... do that all on one line as a message to post in here
[14:27] <onetinsoldier> make*
[14:28] <DarkKnight> AMDMutant; no idea...can you really help me out
[14:28] <lore20> onetinsoldier: where?
[14:29] <lore20> here?
[14:29] <onetinsoldier> lore20: very top lines of your Xorg.0.log file seem to contain some problem  --> _XSERVTransSocketCreateListener: failed to bind listener   _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed  _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to create listener for unix
[14:30] <DarkKnight> !ubottu
[14:31] <lore20> Ok, yesterday everythinkg worked fine... I updated my syste..reboot.. and everything was alright. Today I power on my PC.. X seems to start.. (I can see the X cursors for some seconds), and then X restart four-five times.. but without GDM. The GDM logs are completely clean..
[14:31] <leon> WHY NM have too many issue
[14:31] <cizra> Yesterday all my troubles seemed so far away...
[14:32] <ardchoille> How do I remove the google search bar from firefox? most other distros you just right click and drag it off the the url area, but this isn't sticking between firefox launches
[14:32] <cizra> lore20: The window manager went gemuse?
[14:32] <littlefish> may i ask somebody a question?
[14:32] <cizra> lore20: Try running X manually
[14:32] <cizra> !ask | littlefish
[14:32] <lore20> cizra: with startx?
[14:32] <onetinsoldier> lore20: yes.. i meant a descriptionto post in here.. that includes your pastebin url's.. all on one line. because you may have to ask ever several minutes or something. i save mine in a file to copy and paste, then i can revise as needed. and in case something happens, like i have to reboot. i don't have to retype it all in. i just open up file and copy and paste again(pastebin url's not lost that way either!)  :-)
[14:32] <onetinsoldier> sveral*
[14:32] <cizra> lore20: Yes, and xterm as the only thing in .xinitrc
[14:32] <user01> is there an opensource program to create email templates with attachments?  i wanted to have a list of of clickable email templates with attachments, but i tried a href with mailto and i cannot get attachments to go
[14:33] <cizra> lore20: If xterm comes up and stays up, then it's the fault of the desktop system.
[14:33] <onetinsoldier> nvm my typo's. i was trying to type too fast, and am not great typist to begin with
[14:33] <lore20> cizra: where should .xinitrc be?
[14:34] <lore20> could i try "xinit xterm" ?
[14:34] <boss> c'è  qualche italiano?
[14:34] <cizra> lore20: $HOME
[14:34] <leon>  anyone know how show my interface type or vendor of network?
[14:34] <lore20> i don't have any xinitrc
[14:34] <leon>  anyone know how to show my interface type or vendor of network?
[14:34] <cizra> lore20: echo xterm > ~/.xinitr # beware, this could hose something
[14:35] <cizra> leon: dmesg | grep eth should show something
[14:35] <nibbler_> lore20: check your mac adress, google for the first 3 dual-hex
[14:35] <onetinsoldier> lore20: anyone got any ideas for lore20? his Xorg.0.log file seems to contain some problem at the very top of it  --> _XSERVTransSocketCreateListener: failed to bind listener   _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed  _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to create listener for unix
[14:35] <leon> thx
[14:35] <cizra> boss: More chance with English
[14:35] <cizra> lore20: About xinit xterm.. try it, then tell me too.
[14:35] <ardchoille> !it | boss
[14:35] <somayeh> o
[14:35] <nibbler_> leon: check your mac adress, google for the first 3 dual-hex
[14:36] <boss> ciao grazie
[14:36] <lore20> cizra: x starts with its grey background and cursors, but i can't see xterm
[14:36] <cizra> hmm, OK
[14:36] <cizra> lore20: about those errors onetinsoldier pasted.. do you have the loopback device?
[14:37] <leon> thx
[14:37] <lore20> yes.. with inet 127.0.0.1
[14:37] <denisbr> Hi all
[14:37] <onetinsoldier> lore20: /tmp directory problem?
[14:37] <cizra> lore20: well, this ought to be right. So you say X comes up but xterm isn't launched?
[14:37] <lore20> yes
[14:37] <leon> how to report a ubuntu install bug?
[14:38] <leon> how to report a ubuntu install bug?
[14:38] <boss> hi there i have installed compiz on my notebook hp pavillion zv6069 with xubuntu 8.10 and I can't start some effect.And the cube doesn't work
[14:38] <ardchoille> !bugs | leon
[14:39] <leon> thz
[14:40] <leon> the site too slow for me
[14:40] <onetinsoldier> boss: your description looks good. you might want to include url's for pastebin's of your....  /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0log files in it
[14:40] <Zmajci> after upgrading numpad don't work properly (it moves the cursor instead of typing numbers). reconfigured xorg.conf, it doesn't help. any suggestions?
[14:40] <pfct> Can anyone help with mounting a Sony-Ericsson W980 phone in mass storage mode on 8.10?
[14:40] <lore20> i tried "gdm" from tty and it says "X Server has been disabled. Restart GDM after you configure it correctly
[14:41] <onetinsoldier> boss: that last one should be...   /var/log/Xorg.0.log  ..sorry
[14:41] <lore20> i tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg".. but it configure only keyboard
[14:42] <lore20> there is any way to set xorg.conf?
[14:42] <leon> there's irc for ubuntu NM group?
[14:42] <scientes> how can i change my hp network printer from the hpijs to the hplip driver?
[14:42] <littlefish> anyone know what should i do,if i want to connect to the Internet though the twist cable,not the wireless .
[14:43] <cizra> littlefish: plug in the cable, then run sudo dhclient eth0
[14:43] <guestguestnew> if i have a router connected to the internet. and if i connect one of its ports to another router, would that be ok? would PCs connected to the second router get an internet connection alright?
[14:43] <littlefish> how should i configure my Ubuntu system?
[14:43] <boss> onetinsoldier : i will send you that file
[14:43] <cizra> littlefish: I guess the Gnome network manager should be able to help you?
[14:43] <onetinsoldier> lore20:  i know i posted the errors at the top of your log file.. but i also see this in it. it's not considered and erorr apparently, but it somehow it doesn't seem like a good thing to me  -->  (WW) intel(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum
[14:44] <AMDMutant> pfct: you got modem?
[14:44] <littlefish> okay .let me have a try.thax.
[14:44] <pfct> I have this line in lsusb Bus 003 Device 004: ID 0fce:e0da Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB. How do I mount this?
[14:44] <pfct> AMDMutant: I have the internal modem with my Dell Inspiron 1501
[14:45] <mortuis99> Happy Hollidays..  i am trying to empty my trash and i cant get rid of 2 Dir( and the files they contain)  can i force empty it?
[14:45] <onetinsoldier> boss: please don't send me file without asking me first..  please just make your problem description like you have it, but ass url's for pastebin's of your xorg.conf and your Xorg.0.log file in it. for posting to the channel here, not to me. in case you don't know what pastebin is...
[14:45] <AMDMutant> pfct: you can use your W980 as gsm modem
[14:45] <cizra> pfct: Umm, why do you think you can mount it at all?
[14:45] <onetinsoldier> !pastebin | boss
[14:46] <onetinsoldier> s/ass/add
[14:46] <onetinsoldier> lol
[14:46] <pfct> AMDMutant: I know, but I want to be able to access the music files
[14:46] <AMDMutant> pfct: to read write it you can use software, i forgot...
[14:47] <mortuis99> !trash
[14:47] <rinsmaster> lot of netsplits these times
[14:47] <mortuis99> ok i know where trash is how do i empty it?
[14:48] <rinsmaster> rightclick, empty trash, or rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[14:48] <onetinsoldier> boss: ok,i see that you told me you were going to send the file, just saw that now. however, please ask first next time. anyway, make a pstebin of it
[14:48] <boss> http://paste.ubuntu.com/93210/
[14:48] <onetinsoldier> pastebin*
[14:48] <onetinsoldier> boss: ok, i'll have a look
[14:48] <boss> here it is
[14:49] <mortuis99> i have tried dozend of time right clicking and the dirs are still in the trash
[14:49] <boss> tnx
[14:49] <onetinsoldier> yep
[14:49] <pfct> cizra: I thought it should be possible when the phone is in Mass Storage mode. When I connect in Phone mode I can sometimes access using Wammu. In Media mode F-Spot Photo Manager finds all the files, but only makes sense of the photos.
[14:49] <scientes> how do i view drv:// locations?
[14:49] <rinsmaster> mortuis99, then those dirs are probably owned by root, try: sudo chown -R yourname ~/.local/share/Trash
[14:49] <Katangawise> lkjlkjl
[14:50] <cizra> pfct: Mass storage, yes. Check dmesg for messages about usb-storage and sdb or something when you plug it in.
[14:50] <lore20> ++
[14:50] <Zmajci> ﻿fter upgrading my numpad don't work properly (it moves the arrow instead of typing numbers). reconfigured xorg.conf, it doesn't help. any suggestions?
[14:51] <cizra> Zmajci: Have you tried pressing the Num lock?
[14:51] <cizra> Zmajci: Sorry if it sounds dumb
[14:51] <Zmajci> cizra: lol... unfortunately.. yes.. makes no difference
[14:52] <AMDMutant> pfct: how is it if you use wammu?
[14:53] <mortuis99> rinsmaster one dir was deleted and one is still there
[14:53] <onetinsoldier> boss: ok, i think i might nkow what's wrong. old version of flgrx driver. what's the output of the following command?  dpkg -l '*fglrx*' | awk '/^ii/ {print $2, $3}
[14:53] <rinsmaster> mortuis99, does the dir have a lock on it or so?
[14:54] <AMDMutant> pfct: yes if you want to manually mount it check dmesg
[14:54] <mortuis99> i went to the  dir in the trash and yes there are locks on them
[14:54] <rinsmaster> mortuis99, because with the sudo chown thing you just gave yourself the rights, so now you should be able to remove it
[14:54] <Zmajci> cizra: all other buttons work corretly, only that the numpad is moving the arrow (quite well) instead of typing. with button number 5 you can even select! but I want numbers back!
[14:54] <rinsmaster> mortuis99, then do: sudo chown -R yourname ~/.local/share/Trash
[14:55] <cizra> Zmajci: sorry, I don't know
[14:55] <rinsmaster> Zmajci, isn't that an option in some dialog somewhere, i remember using it once
[14:55] <Tosko> can someone help me with the laptop hard drive Load_Cycle_Count issue?
[14:55] <panfist> from a fresh install of 8.10 x64 I have enabled ATI restricted drivers and installed mplayer. my video playback suffers from screen tearing. i am using an athlon x2 @ 2.4GHz on a 780G motherboard. i think the hardware should be fast enough to playback most video but even standard def gives me screen tearing. what software settings should i be using to get the smoothest playback
[14:56] <AMDMutant> anyone use lam-mpi?
[14:56] <kerstin> Hi there
[14:56] <pfct> AMDMutant: It seems to come up as a SCSI removable disk on sdb
[14:56] <pfct> cisra: It seems to come up as a SCSI removable disk on sdb
[14:57] <AMDMutant> pfct: sdb it is
[14:57] <pfct> AMDMutant: Can I mount this?
[14:57] <mortuis99> rinsmaster i did "chown -R yourname ~/.local/share/Trash" then "sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/*" and it is still there
[14:57] <kerstin> I have a "VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 215CT [Mach64 CT]" and only 800x600 screen resolution - is the hardware too bad or is there something within ubuntu that I can do to improve it?
[14:57] <Zmajci> rinsmaster, cizra: it seems like a feature, not a bug, that activate itself just after upgrade... just unable to find HOW to swith it off  LOL
[14:58] <piojunbabia> hello?
[14:58] <piojunbabia> i need help?
[14:58] <rinsmaster> Zmajci, yes it is a feature, but I can't find the option either now :P It was once activatable somewhere
[14:58] <piojunbabia> somebody here?
[14:58] <AMDMutant> pfct: try sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[14:58] <cizra> rinsmaster: Sounds rather like a bug to me
[14:58] <rinsmaster> piojunbabia, relax dude, help is on the way
[14:58] <ttye0> I'm using Ubuntu Netbook Remix sand I'd like to change my Login Window and if possible I'd like to try turning on Compiz. What package contains the Login Window configuration utility? I don't even know where to start for Compiz because I'm used to having a Special Effects tab on Appearance and it's not there. Suggestions or resources?
[14:58] <AMDMutant> pfct: is there sdb1 or something
[14:59] <piojunbabia> can you help me rinsmaster?
[15:00] <AMDMutant> 22.00
[15:00] <piojunbabia> hello?
[15:00] <piojunbabia> any body here? echo!!!!
[15:00] <jtaji> !ask | piojunbabia
[15:00] <leon> many
[15:00] <AMDMutant> piojunbabia: !hi
[15:00] <bazhang> piojunbabia, please ask a question
[15:00] <mortuis99> piojunbabia  just ask a question u dont need to get someones attention
[15:00] <earthian> Where can I find support for Ubuntu netbook remix?
[15:01] <piojunbabia> ok thank you..
[15:01] <ttye0> earthian: I'd like to know to
[15:01] <piojunbabia> i want to know how to install avira anti virus
[15:01] <AMDMutant> earthian: to the left and then right... and then right...
[15:01] <bazhang> piojunbabia, no need
[15:01] <ttye0> Hah
[15:01] <earthian> Thanks
[15:01] <viper> strange that my laptop battery drained and my filesystem got corrupted today
[15:01] <piojunbabia> bazhang, why?
[15:01] <bazhang> !virus
[15:01] <viper> vuze lost all its downloading torrents too
[15:02] <Zmajci> ﻿rinsmaster, cizra: how to reset completely GNOME preference to default? maybe deleting the configuration file (which one?) or with a configuration tool?
[15:02] <piojunbabia> !virus
[15:02] <piojunbabia> ?
[15:02] <bazhang> http://librenix.com/?inode=21 piojunbabia
[15:02] <piojunbabia> thanks for the link
[15:02] <kerstin> Hey guys - any tipps for a mach64 ati card in ubuntu 8.10?
[15:03] <pfct> AMDMutant: Nothing, the command just drops me back to the prompt
[15:04] <piojunbabia> now how to install adobe flash in linux?
[15:04] <SlimeyPete> !flash
[15:05] <SlimeyPete> though I think firefox can just do it automatically these days
[15:05] <AMDMutant> pfct: really? try mount sdb then
[15:05] <piojunbabia> i have a very old versio of ubuntu is that procedure ok - the link you gave?
[15:05] <onetinsoldier> Zmajci: you might try deleteing all the .gnome stuff in your /home/user directory. but if other settings have been chasnged elsewhere, such as soem settings somehwere in  /etc/  then i don't know
[15:05] <piojunbabia> i also have older version of firefox
[15:06] <Pici> piojunbabia: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[15:06] <SlimeyPete> piojunbabia: what version of ubuntu?
[15:06] <AMDMutant> pfct: no info about sdb...
[15:06] <leon> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[15:06] <piojunbabia> something called "breezy *"
[15:06]  * grobda24 says Happy New Ubuntu Year.
[15:06] <leon> piojunbabia, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[15:07] <Pici> piojunbabia: That has not been supported for quite some time.  You will not be able to install software with apt.
[15:07] <piojunbabia> what does that mean?
[15:07] <piojunbabia> i am not familiar with linux commands
[15:07] <Pici> !breezy
[15:07] <kerstin> oh right, happy new year too you guys too ;)
[15:07] <pfct> AMDMutant: sudo mount sdb returns no entry in etc/fstab or etc/mtab and sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt returns special device sdb1 does not exist
[15:07] <grobda24> I can see the files in a root owned directory ... how can I hide everything ?
[15:07] <SlimeyPete> piojunbabia: just type it into a terminal
[15:07] <Pici> SlimeyPete: It won't work.
[15:07] <Zmajci> onetinsoldier: thanks. I already reconfigured xorg.conf to default (even screen on vesa)... so I hope it must be gnome.. wish me luck.. thanks folk
[15:07] <piojunbabia> ok thanks
[15:07] <Pici> piojunbabia: It won't work.
[15:07] <SlimeyPete> Pici: Oh. Is Breezy too old?
[15:07] <onetinsoldier> Zmajci: for example...  cd ~/ && rm -rfv .compiz .gconf* .gnome* .gstream* .gvfs .nautilus
[15:07] <xun> Hi guys, quick question. if I create a symbolic link using "mount --bind", will it still be there after I reboot?
[15:07] <Pici> piojunbabia: Your version of Ubuntu is too old.
[15:08] <onetinsoldier> Zmajci: ok, good luck!
[15:08] <Pici> SlimeyPete: EOL April 2007.
[15:08] <SlimeyPete> Pici: you really need to get hold of a newer version of Ubuntu.
[15:08] <Pici> SlimeyPete: Not me ;)
[15:08] <SlimeyPete> erm
[15:08] <earthian2> Hello again.. I am using Ubuntu netbook remix that is Hardy in heart. And i have this message in my syslog: http://pastebin.com/d4fe39a7
[15:08] <SlimeyPete> sorry, mis-tab
[15:08] <AMDMutant> pfct: sudo mount /dev/sdb /mnt ?
[15:08] <SlimeyPete> piojunbabia: you really need to get hold of a newer version of Ubuntu.
[15:08] <SlimeyPete> it will be difficult to install a recent version of Flash on Breezy
[15:08] <rinsmaster> Zmajci, or install a gnome config manager app thing, it's a bit like the windows registry, you can change allot of stuff
[15:08] <gizmo> who know the define of pulpie?
[15:09] <AMDMutant> pfct: probably you can't
[15:09] <grobda24> Don't think I phrased that very well ... I can see the files in a root owned directory as a non root user ... how can I hide everything in that directory from non root users ??
[15:09] <Pici> gizmo: Not a topic this channel is for, Try ##linguistics .
[15:09] <AMDMutant> pfct: how if you use wammu?
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow> earthian, ubuntu based remix's are like   mint..  not supported here
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !mint
[15:09] <piojunbabia>  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[15:10] <rinsmaster> lolz
[15:10] <piojunbabia> i found that as an error message
[15:10] <rinsmaster> open up synaptic package manager under the system menu
[15:10] <rinsmaster> and search for flashplugin
[15:10] <rinsmaster> @piojunbabia
[15:10] <leon> piojunbabia,  you shuold upgrade your os version
[15:10] <xun> hello, if I create a symbolic link using "mount --bind", will it still be there after I reboot?
[15:10] <Pici> gizmo: chmod -R o-r /that/path   That will remove read privleges to Other users.
[15:10] <AMDMutant> pfct: xgnokii, gmobilemedia
[15:10] <piojunbabia> ca i upgrade my ubuntu online?
[15:11] <leon> yes
[15:11] <piojunbabia> can*
[15:11] <nibbler_> xun: mount does not make symbolic links, ln does
[15:11] <Pici> piojunbabia: Not that version.
[15:11] <Pici> piojunbabia: It is too old by many versions.
[15:11] <piojunbabia> is there any other way?
[15:11] <Pici> piojunbabia: You can download a new CD from http://www.ubuntu.com/download or request a CD from shipit.
[15:11] <xun> nibbler_ , i thought you could link an empty folder to another one with "mount --bind" no?
[15:11] <Pici> !shipit > piojunbabia
[15:11] <earthian> Jack_Sparrow, afaik i downloaded that from canonical.com website... which is ermm.. like ubuntu kubuntu edubuntu xubuntu and ubuntu remix.. like one family, isnt it?
[15:11] <xun> I'm using it to manage some ftp access
[15:12] <nibbler_> xun: tis works, but thats mounting, not symbolic-linking. there are many ways to achive one goal
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> earthian, to a degree.. yes.. but many are not
[15:12] <piojunbabia> thank you ubottu
[15:12] <nibbler_> xun: mount -obind and ln -s are two of them
[15:12] <earthian> :/
[15:12] <piojunbabia> they will send me a cd for free?
[15:12] <Pici> piojunbabia: Yes.
[15:12] <nibbler_> xun: but while the link would be preserved, mounts are only done according to /etc/fstab after each reboot
[15:13] <xun> nibller_, i see. what method would you recommend using then(so that it won't disappear after reboot)
[15:13] <piojunbabia> How long will it take? I am from the Philippines....
[15:13] <onetinsoldier> grobda24: i 'think'  chmod 0600 ...might be what you're looking for
[15:13] <nibbler_> xun: use ln -s to make symbolic links, those dont disapper, but their handling depends on ftp deamon, so check if it wirks
[15:13] <nibbler_> works
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> earthian, ONce others take ubuntu and add things and change repos and mostly dependencies...  it can get ugly to repair
[15:14] <piojunbabia> How long will it take? I am from the Philippines....
[15:14] <earthian> but thats a kernel related question
[15:14] <Pici> piojunbabia: I don't know
[15:14] <piojunbabia> ok
[15:14] <xun> niibler_,ya, that's the thing, i think i checked last night and it didn't work, that's why i used "mount --bind", but i'll try again
[15:14] <Pici> onetinsoldier: That may interrupt other owner related permissions. chmod g-r is a safer way to go.
[15:14] <piojunbabia> i will ask for a cd from that site thank you...
[15:14] <grobda24> onetinsoldier, ok, thanks
[15:14] <onetinsoldier> grobda24: either 0600 or 0700
[15:14] <nibbler_> xun: there might be an option "follow symlinks" or the like in your ftpd
[15:15] <xun> nibbler_, how do I add mount option (such as --bind) for a folder in fstab. I only know how to mount drives
[15:15] <Pici> grobda24: That may interrupt other owner related permissions. chmod g-r is a safer way to go.
[15:15] <nibbler_> xun: umm, no idea, option tab need to have bind in it, device is the "sourcefolder" and mountpoint is obv.
[15:15] <onetinsoldier> Pici: grobda24 seemed to want pretty tight permission on it
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> earthian,  I am using Ubuntu netbook remix that is Hardy in heart.. Sounds like something you did not get from canonical
[15:16] <xun> nibbler_, ok. thanks, I'll check out to see if there is such option in my ftpd, i'm using proftpd btw
[15:17] <nibbler_> xun: keep the possible securityrisks in mind when you do that...
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> earthian, and that error is not from our kernel, it looks more like you are trying to buyild up your own
[15:17] <earthian> hm
[15:17] <Pici> onetinsoldier: But if a file is chmodded already to 7xx chmoding to 6xx will break the executable bit for owners, and vice versa.  'o-r'  (not g-r, I mistyped) will remove read permissions from everyone else, which is what he wants.
[15:17] <earthian> i downloaded mine from launchpad.com got a link from canonical.com
[15:17] <piojunbabia> so i do not need an anti virus on my ubuntu right?
[15:17] <ardchoille> How do I remove the google search bar from the firefox toolbar?
[15:17] <earthian> used usb stick. everything got installed without problems
[15:17] <earthian> also I am on acer aspire one
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> earthian, When are you getting this error, has this system ever run since install etc
[15:18] <earthian> yes
[15:18] <earthian> its running..
[15:18] <Pici> ardchoille: Right click, customize and just drag it off
[15:18] <xun> nibbler_, hmmm...  will there still be a security risk even if I've "denied" all write privilege for the account?
[15:18] <xun> "anonymous" actually
[15:18] <ardchoille> Pici: it doesn't stick that way between firefox launches, the google searchbar returns on its own
[15:18] <earthian> everything seems ok with the system. it happens only once each start at around 500 seconds after start as provided in there pastebin
[15:18] <AMDMutant> you cant access dir if it isn't +x
[15:18] <wobbiebobbie> I install a antivirus because I switch between windows and linux
[15:19] <Pici> ardchoille: Hrm. Thats a bug then.
[15:19] <onetinsoldier> Pici: perhaps, but this is what grobda24 asked for  --->  how can I hide everything in that directory from non root users ??
[15:19] <nibbler_> xun: only if users could create their own symlinks, maybe even lokal users, and access them via ftp with root privilegs then maybe....
[15:19] <ardchoille> Pici: ah, I thought so
[15:19] <onetinsoldier> Pici: ok, anyway, i think what he might want is 0700
[15:20] <xun> nibbler_, then I'm fine I think. this is just for "anonymous" account. there is no other privileges than "read". thanks for the heads up though
[15:20] <onetinsoldier> Pici: which is rwx for root only
[15:20] <mohbana_> how do i switch to su in ubuntu?  not sudo <command>
[15:21] <onetinsoldier> grobda24: i think your going to want 0700...  chmod 0700 <dir> ...that owuld be read, write, and execute for owner only. is that what you want?
[15:21] <kerstin> Hey its me again
[15:21] <olegb> mohbana_: sudo su
[15:21] <mohbana_> thanks
[15:22] <kerstin> how can I force a higher resolution than i can see in the ubuntu interface?
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> earthian, there is a dell hardy remix.. is that what you are using or do you have the real link you used
[15:22] <kerstin> The xorg file is pretty emoty here ;)
[15:22] <kerstin> ubuntu 8.10, mach64
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> olegb, bad idea
[15:22] <pfct> AMDMutant: when I connect using the phone's media option F-Spot works and dmesg reports [ 5744.449082] usb 3-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 11
[15:22] <pfct> [ 5744.586329] usb 3-1: configuration #4 chosen from 1 choice
[15:22] <Bormy> Good evening ma friends
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo > olegb
[15:23] <onetinsoldier> grobda24: if you want rwx for owner and rx for group as well, then  chmod 0750
[15:23] <leon> when boot os, my startup is very slow . i press ALT-F1, it show : no image resume, boot from normal , it take a long time why
[15:23] <Bormy> again, i have a problem with nvidia-xconf
[15:23] <Bormy> anyone could help?
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> leon, remove quiet and splash and see if it boots fast
[15:24] <leon> what is quiet, iam a beginner
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> leon, gksudo gedit /boot/grub.menu.lst
[15:24] <Bormy> anybody could help me on nvidia-conf?
[15:24] <Bormy> :)
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> leon, look for the line like this  kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-9-generic root=UUID=4ee0e5c7-c98e-4f2b-9d6d-5e556e9fd23f ro xforcevesa quiet splash
[15:25] <AMDMutant> pfct: if you df -h is there anything new?
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Bormy, please keep it to one line and be patient
[15:25] <leon> waiting, i check it
[15:25] <Bormy> ok, thanks Jack_Sparrow
[15:25] <leon> sudo gedit /boot/grub.menu.lst?
[15:25] <leon> no these file!
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> leon, you want to edit off quiet and splash and save the file
[15:26] <OpenGuru> can somebody tell me how to help ubuntu ?
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> leon, gksudo gedit /boot/grub.menu.lst
[15:26] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: hello?
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> leon, gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:26] <bazhang> !contribute > OpenGuru
[15:26] <kerstin> oh hallo verzeih
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> leon, Sorry, still waking up
[15:26] <OpenGuru> ubottu, Thanks
[15:26] <AMDMutant> hmmm...expensive
[15:26] <leon> i c find the file
[15:27] <leon> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-9-generic root=UUID=4afa8c7a-db52-4e08-8a1c-9605b2e4382b ro quiet splash
[15:27] <OpenGuru> bazhang, yes, I want to contribute..
[15:27] <kerstin> onetinsoldier: hier bin ich was ist los?
[15:27] <leon> comment out last 2 words?
[15:27] <kerstin> eehm sorry whats up?
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> leon, you can copy that section and duplicate it and that way still have your original option on boot or just make that change
[15:28] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: i am reluctant tohelp with a mach64, however.... imightbe ableto help you get a full xorg.conf file for vesa driver. then you have a full file to work with from there. such as adding in the driver line that specifies what video driver to use for the mach64
[15:28] <onetinsoldier> i might be*
[15:28] <grobda24> onetinsoldier, tried all that. I can still see files in that directory as normal user. Trying to hide dir from disk usage analyser.
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> leon, you would copy a section from title to the end of initrd and duplicate the entry for testing
[15:28] <kerstin> Ok that soudns good
[15:29] <kerstin> but is there any driver to use but the vesa one?
[15:29] <onetinsoldier> grobda24: do this util rn as root?
[15:29] <onetinsoldier> grobda24: do this util run as root?
[15:29] <leon> OK, I BOOT MACHINE NOW, PLS WAITING 4 ME
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> leon, or just remove those two words and save the file
[15:29] <grobda24> onetinsoldier, no
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> leon, yes I will be here  finishing coffee
[15:29] <onetinsoldier> grobda24: chmod 0600 didn't even hide it?
[15:29] <ardchoille> Pici: purging the ubufox package solved the problem :)
[15:30] <onetinsoldier> grobda24: ok, hang on
[15:30] <grobda24> onetinsoldier, "sudo chmod 0600 host" ... I'm in Wubi.
[15:30] <pfct> AMDMutant: I've got Wammu and gMobileMedia to work. The phone is in phone mode and comes up on ttyACM0 and ttyACM1 as a USB ACM device. It is also up as a Mobile Broadband device.
[15:31] <onetinsoldier> grobda24: wubi! bah.. there's you problem i think
[15:31] <Jack_Sparrow> grobda24, Please read the faq on wubi and understand the differences between that and a normal install  of ubuntu
[15:31] <Jack_Sparrow> oneseventeen|afk, agreed
[15:31] <grobda24> oneseventeen|afk, I thought everything was jst translated to ntfs permissions ?
[15:32] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: hello?
[15:32] <shiMMer> what is best ip scanner for ubuntu??
[15:32] <AMDMutant> pfct: you can read/write it using that
[15:32] <grobda24> onetinsoldier, ok, thanks
[15:32] <littlefish> what makes ubuntu so popular?
[15:32] <kke_> shiMMer: nmap?
[15:32] <kerstin> yes?
[15:32] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: ok,  looks like you were talking to me. please precede every message that you are addressing me with my nick
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> littlefish, Our community of helpers
[15:33] <onetinsoldier> !who
[15:33] <shiMMer> i already know that i will got that answer :(
[15:33] <kerstin> onetinsoldier: okay
[15:33] <leon> Jack_Sparrow, i am here
[15:33] <littlefish> jack Sparrow :i am a fresh man.
[15:33] <kke_> shiMMer: possibly because nmap is great
[15:33] <AMDMutant> shiMMer: what r u trying to do anyway?
[15:33] <pfct> AMDMutant: It isn't very stable. I don't appear to be able to create folders, but it gives me somrthing to
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> leon, did it boot faster
[15:33] <kerstin> onetinsoldier: well the problem that i have is that the mach64 card that is in my PC has a bad reoslution of 800x600
[15:34] <leon> Jack_Sparrow, i found that netwok configuring is very slow
[15:34] <Jack_Sparrow> littlefish, Welcome to ubuntu, we reserve this channel for actual support questions and we have other rooms for chat and discussions.. thanks
[15:34] <littlefish> i just install the Ubuntu Operating system
[15:34] <shiMMer> ip scanner that i can scan ip with range.eg=111.111.111.000-111.111.111.111
[15:34] <shiMMer> range
[15:34] <ardchoille> littlefish: my 8 year old niece installed ubuntu 8.10 all be herself and everything just worked, a distro that can do that can't help but be popular :)
[15:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !polls
[15:34] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: ok, not what i have for you takes several steps, ok? shouldn't be too had to follow my instructions though. ready?
[15:34] <pfct> AMDMutant: sorry, typo - it gives me something to work with. Thanks for your time :)
[15:34] <littlefish> i have lots problem.
[15:34] <kerstin> onetinsoldier: ye si am ready
[15:34] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: had = hard
[15:34] <AMDMutant> pfct: i see, you're welcome
[15:34] <leon> Jack_Sparrow, network interface congfig will take 1 minute!
[15:35] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: ok, here they come...
[15:35] <Jack_Sparrow> leon, I wont be of much help with that issue, sounds like a marginally supported wireless card..
[15:35] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: 1) determine what display_manager you use with --> cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager  2) log out of x-windows  3) Ctrl+Alt+F1  4) login to the console termminal  4) sudo invoke-rc.d <display_manager> stop (for example -->  invoke-rc.d gdm stop  <--, this shuts down x-windows completely)  5) sudo Xorg -configure (this command should create a full xorg.conf.new file in the root users home directory)
[15:35] <littlefish> i see my classmate's Opensolaris OS.it is more beautiful,
[15:35] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: 6) make a backup of your old xorg.conf file first if you wish --> sudo cp -v /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old  7) sudo cp -v /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf  8) now it's time to try your new xorg.conf file by starting x-windows back up --> sudo invoke-rc.d <display_manager> start
[15:36] <kke_> onetinsoldier: isn't xorg configless these days?
[15:36] <Jack_Sparrow> littlefish, Please refer back to my earlier comment on the purpose of this channel
[15:36] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: copy and paste all that into a file on your hard drive and save it
[15:36] <Aeonis> I have 2 users setup on my comp and when i click the name to switch, the screen goes black and does nothing.
[15:36] <leon> Jack_Sparrow,  i use wicd manager network, NM have many bug
[15:36] <kerstin> onetinsoldier: okay
[15:36] <onetinsoldier> kke_: sadly, no.. not in most cases
[15:36] <Jack_Sparrow> leon, so you will need to live with the extra boot up minute
[15:37] <leon> Jack_Sparrow,  it is nomally?
[15:37] <onetinsoldier> kke_: at least not for most people tha claim to have an empty looking xorg.conf file, sauch as kerstin said he had earlier, like 10 minutes ago
[15:37] <shiMMer> any1 can run kismet on ubuntu 8.10???
[15:37] <kerstin> onetinsoldier: thank you i willt ry all this :)
[15:37] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: ok, good luck!
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> leon, depends on your network hardware..  I just avoid wireless in general..  Old School in that regard
[15:38] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install kismet shiMMer
[15:38] <shiMMer> got an error to run it
[15:38] <leon> Jack_Sparrow,  when i use NM, i can not access 802.1x with peap  on 8.10
[15:38] <shiMMer> i already "sudo kismet"
[15:38] <mortuis99> !trash
[15:38] <leon> Jack_Sparrow,  but on 8.04 that ok
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> leon, I would research your wireless card chipset and ubuntu and see if someone has a better solution
[15:38] <bazhang> shiMMer, paste.ubuntu.com with the error message
[15:39] <Bormy> after running nvidia-xconfig and rebooting, i got the following messages: (EE) Problem parsing the config file
[15:39] <Bormy> (EE) Error parsing the config file
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> leon, I understand.  I had easier time with 8.04 myself
[15:39] <leon> Jack_Sparrow,  802.1x is wired
[15:39] <shiMMer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/93231/
[15:40] <shiMMer> i need to put right source i think..
[15:40] <Aeonis> I have 2 users setup on my comp and when i click the name to switch, the screen goes black and does nothing.  what causes that?
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> leon, Find Network Card Chipset:  "sudo lshw -C network"   in a terminal it will show the networking card/chipset
[15:40] <mortuis99> can anyone help im still having trouble emptying trash i have tried "chown -R <usename> ~/.local/share/Trash" then "sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/*"
[15:41] <ttyX> can anyone please help me
[15:41] <leon>  PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection
[15:41] <unop_> mortuis99, what does that command NOT do?
[15:41] <Jack_Sparrow> mortuis99, I hate to suggest..  but gksudo nautilus.. then exit as soon as you are done
[15:41] <ttyX> am having a lil prob with mplayer
[15:41] <littlefish> i want to install Kmplayer ,then i type "sudo apt-get install kmplayer" but the problem is i just can type sudo apt-gt ....
[15:41] <teo_> join
[15:41] <cn-shn>  Module fuse not found ,can anyone help me
[15:41] <leon> NetXtreme BCM5752 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
[15:41] <littlefish> the "e "is missing.
[15:41] <ttyX> it shows -vo error
[15:41] <shiMMer> is there kmplayer for ubuntu 8.10???
[15:41] <littlefish> i am confused.
[15:42] <Jack_Sparrow> leon, great, now you know what to use in your google search
[15:42] <leon> Jack_Sparrow,  PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection and NetXtreme BCM5752 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
[15:42] <littlefish> why the "e "is missing?
[15:42] <hurleyy> hy
[15:42] <roca> getting this error with ebox SSL received an unexpected Change Cipher Spec record. (Error code: ssl_error_rx_unexpected_change_cipher)
[15:42] <ardchoille> mortuis99: if you "sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/*" who's trash will that empty? :)
[15:42] <Jack_Sparrow> littlefish, If it works in here it should e in there..
[15:42] <shiMMer> bazhang::got it??
[15:42] <ttyX> i have installed the restricted driver for my ati
[15:43] <bazhang> shiMMer, got what?
[15:43] <ardchoille> ok, this is a bug, going to file it now
[15:43] <ardchoille> !bugs
[15:43] <shiMMer> ???my kismet problem=http://paste.ubuntu.com/93231/
[15:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !info kmplayer
[15:43] <onetinsoldier> ttyX: please describe you problem all on one single line.. not multiple lines unless it takes 2 or 3 lines to actually describe it
[15:43] <littlefish> Jack Sparrow :i know ,but i just cann't type the "e " in the terminal ?why ?thax.
[15:43] <leon> Jack_Sparrow,  my problem is wired 802.1x that can not access with NM,  i have do many thing on google, but got nothing
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> littlefish, No idea.. exit that term and open a new one
[15:44] <ttyX> ok i installed restricted drivers provided by canonical for my ati and now when i play any video in mplayer it shows me a -vo error
[15:44] <tosmo> does tracker index kmail mailboxes?
[15:44] <littlefish> i have try ,but i does'nt work.
[15:44] <onetinsoldier> ttyX: much better! now someone 'might' be able to help you :-)  thanks
[15:44] <vermont> I have looked at a lot of "tutorials" but I can't figure out how to re-sync the volume buttons on my keyboard with my OS.
[15:45] <littlefish> actually , i had adjust some option in the system.
[15:45] <roca> getting this error with ebox SSL received an unexpected Change Cipher Spec record. (Error code: ssl_error_rx_unexpected_change_cipher) anyone know how to fix this?
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> leon, are you on 8.10 now
[15:45] <leon> Jack_Sparrow,  yes,
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> leon, Hold on while I look up something
[15:46] <leon> Jack_Sparrow,  :)
[15:46] <kerstin> im back ;)
[15:46] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: welcome back. how'd it go?
[15:46] <master_newton> how do i untar a bz2?
[15:46] <master_newton> in terminal
[15:46] <shiMMer> kismet...kismet..kismet..kismet...
[15:46] <Kira[work]> How do I find out from the command line the current list of DNS that my machine may use?
[15:47] <kerstin> onetinsoldier: I did what you told me and set a modeof "1024x768" in the display subjection (and removed all others with non 16 bit depth) after resarting gdm i still get the same 800x600
[15:47] <master_newton> !untar
[15:47] <unop_> Kira[work], cat /etc/resolv.conf
[15:47] <kerstin> and xrandr outputs me only 3 pretty bad availabke modes
[15:47] <onetinsoldier> master_newton: change to the dir where you want to unpack
[15:47] <hurleyy> someone know that you can create a server stream mms in linux?
[15:47] <master_newton> oneseventeen|afk, ok
[15:47] <master_newton> then
[15:48] <Andry_2> which filesystem should I use to mount a CF card ?
[15:48] <onetinsoldier> master_newton: then -->  tar -jxvf /path/to/file -C .
[15:48] <Kira[work]> unop_ is that supposed to include name servers added using the "dns-nameservers" directive in /etc/network/interfaces?
[15:48] <unop_> Kira[work], yes
[15:48] <hurleyy> it possible create server stream mms:// in linux?
[15:48] <unop_> Kira[work], assuming dns-nameservers is the right name for the directive there
[15:49] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: yeah, i don't know for sure... post your problem description all on one single line and include pastebin url's of both your xorg.conf file and your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file in the line
[15:49] <Kira[work]> unop_ that's the problem, the dns-nameservers directive has never been officially documented, though it appears rather a lot in google search results.
[15:49] <littlefish> why i type "e " in the terminal ,i turn out to be "s"?
[15:49] <Aeonis> I have 2 users setup on my comp and when i click the name to switch, the screen goes black and does nothing.  what causes that?
[15:49] <kerstin> ok will try
[15:50] <littlefish> what should i do ?
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> leon, I just dont see much info.  I agree but others with that card dont seem to be having issues.
[15:50] <hurleyy> it possible create server stream mms:// in linux?
[15:50] <bazhang> littlefish, what changes did you make to your system? please tell us your version and distro
[15:50] <unop_> Kira[work], yea, it doesn't appear to be anywhere in the interfaces(5) manpage - i would think that is a bogus option.
[15:51] <littlefish> 8.10 LTS.
[15:51] <leon> Jack_Sparrow,  if i use wpa_* program in terminal  , my 802.1x is ok
[15:51] <Jack_Sparrow> leon, I have no more answers to your issue
[15:51] <littlefish> bazhang:my ubuntu version is 8.10 .
[15:52] <grout> Hey all
[15:52] <bazhang> littlefish, please paste.ubuntu.com with your sources.list
[15:52] <onetinsoldier> grout: howdy
[15:52] <hurleyy> it possible create server stream mms:// in linux?
[15:52] <unop_> Kira[work], it might be better to have dhclient override the dns nameservers - see /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and
[15:52] <unop_> s/and//
[15:53] <littlefish> but yesterday everything is okay.i just adjust some options in the system.
[15:53] <bazhang> littlefish, sources.list please
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> littlefish,   sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[15:53] <leon> Jack_Sparrow,  in our company,  all classmate can not use NM to access 802.1x, but use wpa command is ok
[15:54] <hurleyy> it possible create server stream mms:// in linux?
[15:54] <kerstin> onetinsoldier: I am using ubuntu 8.10 and i have a  ATI Technologies Inc 215CT [Mach64 CT] - the available screen sizes are too tiny (800x600) and i cannot select any higher. xorg log: http://pastebin.com/mb100c3e xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/m5cf9b147
[15:54] <vermont>  I have looked at a lot of "tutorials" but I can't figure out how to sync the volume buttons on my keyboard with my OS.
[15:54] <Aeonis> I have 2 users setup on my comp and when i click the name to switch, the screen goes black and does nothing.  what causes that?
[15:55] <will00> does anyone know why i cannot write to a sshfs mounted share
[15:55] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: don't address that to me.. adress that to the channel. i'm not saying won't take a look, but don't single me out right now! lol :-)
[15:55] <kerstin> hehe ok - so i adress this to the channel :D
[15:56] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: yes, thanks. because we tried my suggestion, and it didn't seem to work for you, so... need to have others look as well.
[15:56] <Jack_Sparrow> vermont, HAve you read OUR tutorial on multimedia keys?
[15:56] <AlveKatt> Is this a support channel?
[15:56] <erUSUL> AlveKatt: yes
[15:56] <jens> hey there
[15:56] <kerstin> so dear channel: I am using ubuntu 8.10 and i have a  ATI Technologies Inc 215CT [Mach64 CT] - the available screen sizes are too tiny (800x600) and i cannot select any higher. xorg log: http://pastebin.com/mb100c3e xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/m5cf9b147
[15:56] <AlveKatt> A printer driver broke Ubuntus update procedure.
[15:56] <MenZa> !resolution | kerstin
[15:57] <hurleyy> it possible create server stream mms:// in ubuntu?
[15:57] <amanulla> hi
[15:57] <AlveKatt> Package needs reinstall, because it is so flaky. But you never get a better result and I can't remove the package...
[15:57] <Aeonis> anyone using 8.10?
[15:58] <GnomeUser> jep
[15:58] <ThrashMetal> Aeonis: what's your problem with Ubuntu 8.10 ?
[15:58] <MenZa> Aeonis: About 99% of this channel, I'd assume.
[15:58] <sop64> Greetings to the conference, Ciao!
[15:58] <vermont> Jack_Sparrow, I haven't
[15:58] <Aeonis> what does it mean when ubuntu page says that i isnt long term supported?
[15:59] <bazhang> 18 months Aeonis
[15:59] <amanulla> is any 1 here
[15:59] <bazhang> !ask > amanulla
[15:59] <clusoe> ciao
[15:59] <AlveKatt> So, Ubuntu update wants me to update or remove a package to work. Trying to remove it I get an error that says I need to reinstall the package before I removie it. But reinstalling just fails.
[15:59] <AlveKatt> As it did the first time.
[15:59] <lakcaj> Is there any way to have my machine automatically stay up to date, without me having to manually update the system?
[15:59] <Aeonis> being rather new to this,should i upgrade?  will 8.04 be supported then?  can ikeep my settings?
[16:00] <lakcaj> I can't really see an update that I won't want to install
[16:00] <bazhang> AlveKatt, what version of ubuntu, what command, and which package
[16:00] <lakcaj> I suppose I could make a cron job to do it, but I'm looking for something quick
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !keys
[16:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !keys > vermont
[16:01] <shiMMer> any1 can help me with kismet problem???any1 get kismet working on ubuntu 8.10??
[16:01] <AlveKatt> 8.10, mfc9180lpr, several commands which I found in the forum.
[16:01] <bazhang> AlveKatt, paste.ubuntu.com with the exact commands and error sequence (not here)
[16:01] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: i believe there are clues in the lof file, but someone else will have to figure out what's wrong. so just keep posting your message every several minutes.(3-5 minutes or so)
[16:01] <onetinsoldier> log*
[16:02] <jtaji> lakcaj: go to system > admin > software sources, updates tab
[16:03] <kerstin> onetinsoldier: allright soldier - thanks :)
[16:03] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: you're good looking over an Xorg.0.log file aren't you? perhaps you could help kernstin?
[16:03] <Aeonis> Can I upgrade to 8.10 without losing all of my settings
[16:03] <vermont> thank you Jack_Sparrow
[16:03] <lakcaj> jtaji, looks like I can do it for security update... better than nothing.  Thanks.
[16:03] <Aeonis> and installed software?
[16:03] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: you're welcome... good luck
[16:03] <kerstin> another question: If i bought a enw motherboard (along with a fitting new grafics card) will i have to reinstall my ubuntu or will it work just fine when i atatch the hard drive to the new system?
[16:03] <bazhang> Aeonis, from which version
[16:03] <AlveKatt> bazhang: Ok, might take a few minutes. Can't open add remove programs because of this, so I couldn't install x-chat... Ircing from another laptop next to it.
[16:03] <shiMMer> Jack_Sparrow::how i can know what must i write on source section in kismet??
[16:03] <Aeonis> bazhang: 8.04.
[16:04] <jtaji> lakcaj: I'm not sure if they really mean only security updates there, or it also includes whatever is checked up top, if you want to do it the manual method check here https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/keeping-safe/C/updates.html
[16:04] <bazhang> Aeonis, you have any 3rd party repos in there
[16:04] <Aeonis> And files...we have all of our baby pics on here and I can back them up, but I'd rather not have to.
[16:04] <jtaji> lakcaj: sorry wrong link https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/automatic-updates.html
[16:04] <Aeonis> I think I do for Audacity, but I can remove it...
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> shiMMer, Why ask me.. I know nothing of kismet (linux)
[16:04] <Aeonis> I'm not sure how to tell which are 3rd party though bazhang.  I'm rather new.
[16:04] <bazhang> Aeonis, as always back up first
[16:04] <lakcaj> jtaji, cool, thanks!
[16:05] <bazhang> Aeonis, paste.ubuntu.com with sources.list
[16:05] <shiMMer> where can i get answer for kismet??
[16:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Aeonis, No backups of baby pics ...  I should boot you out just for that..  :)
[16:05] <OsamaK> Hello, I have 250GB Hard-Disk on my laptop, I tried Ubuntu 8.10 at it took so long time on the partitioner and stay on 0% (about 15 minutes), I'm trying Kubuntu and I have the same problem, is this normal
[16:05] <Aeonis> Well, they're on the camera Jack_Sparrow and I have them, but my externals are all having problems and I have DVD's but no dvd burners
[16:06] <Aeonis> I'm trying to get to my sources.list bazhang.  This comp has been running a little slow.
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Aeonis, Ok, at least you have another copy and you are not risking your masters
[16:06] <imaginent> OsamaK: have you checked if your disc is good?
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Aeonis, sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[16:07] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: new hard drive? well, you'd have to transfer over ubuntu to the brand new hard drive or install it on the new hard drive from scratch. see the 'dd' command to or search google for Unix Ghost to image one hard drive to another
[16:07] <Aeonis> What's that do Jack_Sparrow?
[16:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Aeonis, takes your sources list and sticks it into the pastebin and gives you a web link to give to us
[16:07] <schone> hi all, i currently have a vps which has 512 of ram, should i create a swap of 256 of ram?
[16:08] <OsamaK> imachine, yeah, I even tried 5 CDs.
[16:08] <OsamaK> :)
[16:08] <Jack_Sparrow> OsamaK, Are you trying to install on a dell or hp
[16:08] <amanulla> if u people dont mind pls just have a look over this http://survey.famespider.com/
[16:08] <amanulla> pleaseeeeeeee
[16:08] <kerstin> nah not an new hard drive ;) a new "system" like a new betetr working gfx card
[16:09] <ardchoille> omg, I didn't know the window list had drag & drop placement support :D
[16:09] <Cadman21> when I started my computer up my top panel was gone? the bottom one is still here is there a way besides setting panels back to default to bring back the top panel?
[16:09] <AlveKatt> bazhang: A paste has been pasted.
[16:09] <Jack_Sparrow> amanulla, Pleeeeeeeeeeeeze dont just paste a random link..   Provide a description of the prooblem and the information we would likely ask like which version of ubuntu you are using
[16:09] <imaginent> i installed ubuntu 8.10 in my CQ40-108TU, at first i got the same problem but i tried to burn it to another cd and check for disc errors, so far i'm using it now and it's very good
[16:10] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: ok, my bad. yeah, hsould work actually. biggest issue at first might be the UUID of the hard drive in the new system for 'grub'.
[16:10] <bormy_> hello all
[16:10] <onetinsoldier> should*
[16:10] <bormy_> i have problem with xorg.conf
[16:10] <AlveKatt> bazhang: Translation "The package is in a very bad inonsistent mode, you should reinstall before trying to remove it."
[16:10] <bizthepirate> I just made a tiny partition to install Vista on, and I installed it on there. Will just reinstalling Grub suffice to allow me to boot into Ubuntu again, or is there more?
[16:10] <kerstin> onetinsoldier: ok - good to know :) thank you
[16:10] <Aeonis> sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[16:10] <Aeonis> sorry
[16:10] <bormy_> I have problem with xorg.conf -> RgbPath seems to be missing
[16:10] <imaginent> OsamaK: you shoudl check if your disc image is ok..
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[16:11] <Aeonis> http://pastebin.com/f6e825efb
[16:11] <Kingsy-eee> hey, I have installed ubuntu-eee on my eeepc 901, and I only have about 1GB free on the 4GB drive does that sound rihgt?
[16:11] <Aeonis> There we go Jack_Sparrow and bazhang
[16:11] <kelvin911> after i insert the sdhc memory into the netbook what do i do to let ubuntu sees it?
[16:11] <AlveKatt> bazhang:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/93265
[16:11] <Kingsy-eee> 3GB for ubuntu eee doesnt sound right
[16:11] <AlveKatt> bazhang: Translation "The package is in a very bad inonsistent mode, you should reinstall before trying to remove it."
[16:12] <johnzorn> I can't resolve any names, altho I can work with ips such as connecting to freenode by ip. when I connect to the net in dmesg the last msg is eth1: no IPv6 routers present can this be the problem?
[16:12] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: you're welcome. now that i think of it, the UUID of the drive and all it's partitions might change when put into a new system. however, the old  /dev/sdaXX is still supported rather than using UUID's.
[16:12] <dennda> direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set) on an intel X3100 and ubuntu 8.10. How can I change that? (Does the card support OpenGL 2.1?)
[16:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !eeepc > kingfishr
[16:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !eeepc > Kingsy-eee
[16:12] <Cadman21> my top panel has not shown up on desktop since I booted (8.10) is there away of restoring that without setting panels back to default?
[16:13] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: hello, can you possibly help kerstin?
[16:13] <AlveKatt> Anyone who can help:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/93265
[16:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Cadman21, To know we would need to know what you were doing last before it disappeared
[16:13] <AlveKatt>  Translation "The package is in a very bad inonsistent mode, you should reinstall before trying to remove it."
[16:14] <Jack_Sparrow> oneseventeen|afk, Gimme a brief description..  it looks like the monitor res is not getting picked up.  that xorg did not have v/h ratges etc
[16:14] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: state your problem description again...
[16:15] <Kingsy-eee> Jack_Sparrow - thats not what I was askin, I installed it fine but it seems to have taken up 3GB of space.. that cant be right
[16:15] <kerstin>  I am using ubuntu 8.10 and i have a  ATI Technologies Inc 215CT [Mach64 CT] - the available screen sizes are too tiny (800x600) and i cannot select any higher. xorg log: http://pastebin.com/mb100c3e xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/m5cf9b147
[16:15] <Cadman21> Jack_sparrow: I was watching a movie in full screen and when I came out of full screen thats when I noticed it was not there.
[16:15] <bazhang> AlveKatt, where did you get that package
[16:16] <Jack_Sparrow> kingfishr, I was trying to politely let you know that this is ubuntu support.. and that eeepc has other specific support
[16:16] <Cadman21> jack_sparrow; since then I have rebooted and its still not there
[16:16] <marry> hello.. I can't delete a folder in my pen drive.. does this has anything to do with ubuntu?
[16:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Cadman21, try changing screen res and see if it is hiding off the top
[16:17] <Cadman21> ok
[16:17] <ardchoille> Jack_Sparrow: I would think the window manager would fix that type of issue
[16:17] <imaginent> marry: Have you checked the permission on the files you want to delete?
[16:17] <Kingsy-eee> Jack_Sparrow - sorry, thanks, its just I have read through a few things and nothing really explains why its taken so much room, do you know a good way of finding out whats taking up the space and ultimatly freeing it up?
[16:17] <Jack_Sparrow> ardchoille, You would think so..
[16:17] <bazhang> Kingsy-eee, that is about right for an eeepc
[16:18] <marry> imaginent : yes I have. for some reason Its the same even when I modify it..
[16:18] <Kingsy-eee> ah right ok, 3GB just seemed a bit large
[16:18] <schone> whats the best ftp server for ubuntu
[16:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Kingsy-eee, see how big /var/cache/apt/archives is
[16:18] <bazhang> Kingsy-eee, get an external usb key and you wont notice the difference :)
[16:19] <bazhang> schone, ask in #ubuntu-bots
[16:19] <Cadman21> Jack_sparrow: I have always used GUI to reset my res. how can I reset it using the terminal?
[16:19] <imaginent> marry: do you sudo and chown, chmod, etc..
[16:19] <bazhang> !ftp > schone
[16:19] <Kingsy-eee> bazhang - what do you mean? for extra space use an external key?
[16:19] <AlveKatt> bazhang: http://www.brother.com/cgi-bin/agreement/agreement.cgi?dlfile=http://solutions.brother.com/Library/sol/printer/linux/rpmfiles/lpr_debian/mfc9180lpr-1.1.2-1.i386.deb&lang=English_lpr
[16:19] <onetinsoldier> Kingsy-eee: du -h /var/cache/apt/archives/
[16:19] <schone> servers not clients bazhang
[16:19] <marry> imaginent : sorry I am not so good with console commands, can ya tell me what exactly to type? lol
[16:19] <bazhang> Kingsy-eee, either hold your files (media etc there) or install to it and leave the main disk alone
[16:19] <IndyGunFreak> Kingsy-eee: 2-3gigs sounds about right for a base install.... did you install eeeubuntu or regular ubuntu
[16:20] <bazhang> schone, same applies, dont take polls here
[16:20] <OsamaK> Jack_Sparrow, Sorry Jack. On HP
[16:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Cadman21, Im still on first cup of coffee and not ready for that..
[16:20] <AlveKatt> bazhang: I took for granted it would be a safe package, being from the official brother site and all.
[16:20] <OsamaK> Jack_Sparrow, is there a problem?
[16:20] <Jack_Sparrow> OsamaK, and your question was about bad disk on install?
[16:20] <Kingsy-eee> IndyGunFreak - I installed ubuntu-eee
[16:20] <bazhang> AlveKatt, its a 3rd party deb?
[16:21] <OsamaK> Jack_Sparrow, The partitioner is stopping on 0%
[16:21] <OsamaK> while resizing.
[16:21] <AlveKatt> bazhang: It's from the printer manufacturer.
[16:21] <cdshan> ﻿Hello Everyone!  I had just completed installing ubuntu-server 8.04.1 with software raid
[16:21] <cdshan> I had configured Raid1
[16:21] <cdshan> With 2 physical disks
[16:21] <cdshan> I have partitioned the disks into partitions like md0 - /; md1-/var md2-/home, etc
[16:21] <cdshan> Now I want to make sure that if my first disk in the array fails, I am able to boot into using the second disk.
[16:21] <FloodBot1> cdshan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:21] <cdshan> Could someone point me to the documentation for the same or help me in setting it up?
[16:21] <IndyGunFreak> Kingsy-eee: that sounds about right, when I had it on my ee, i think ittook around 2-3gigs
[16:21] <OsamaK> So, somehow yeah. Jack_Sparrow
[16:21] <IndyGunFreak> Kingsy-eee: you ust have the one w/ a 4gig hard drive if you're fretting about this.
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> OsamaK, did you defrag twice and how much free space is on the drive being resized, that process can take hours..
[16:21] <Kingsy-eee> IndyGunFreak - ah right, how did you find it? good?
[16:22] <IndyGunFreak> Kingsy-eee: honestly, i sold my eee and boughtt an Aspire one.
[16:22] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: hello.. can you maybe help kerstin? i got him to where he's got a filled out xorg.conf file, but he doesn't have the resolution he wants. i beleive there are good clues as to why not in his log file, but i'm not quite sure how to fix. could you look?
[16:22] <Cadman21> jack_sparrow: thats cool thanks
[16:22] <bazhang> onetinsoldier, best to just let the channel handle it instead of targeting one person
[16:23] <onetinsoldier> ok
[16:23] <Kingsy-eee> IndyGunFreak - well I have a 4GB drive and another 16GB SSD which is slightly slower in aswell so I asm not running out of space for media etc
[16:23] <Jack_Sparrow> onetinsoldier, LEt me make a quick edit of that .. and you help him get it installed  and test . ok?
[16:23] <imaginent> marry:if you want to change the permission you "sudo chown newowner file"
[16:23] <OsamaK> Jack_Sparrow, My hard-disk is 250GB. and..!
[16:23] <OsamaK> Jack_Sparrow, And it finished :-D
[16:23] <IndyGunFreak> Kingsy-eee: i see, i ran itall off my internal SSD... regardless, on my Aspire One, I've got a 160gig hard drive.. pretty awesoem.
[16:24] <OsamaK> Jack_Sparrow, Nice, I was almost about closing it
[16:24] <Aron_> I want to use a shell script to do some simple work which require root
[16:24] <imaginent> marry: then "sudo chmod 666 file"
[16:25] <imaginent> marry: rm file
[16:25] <Bormy> Anybody could help me with RgbPath         "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"?
[16:25] <Aron_> and I have set the script file's attribute like this: -rwsr-xr-x  1 root root
[16:25] <Kingsy-eee> IndyGunFreak - That sounds cool but I wanted a SSD drive so it was shock resistant.. thats why I went for the eee, the space factor is annoying but it should be ok, I will just have to keep an eye on it
[16:25] <Aron_> but it does not work
[16:25] <cdshan> Any out there to help me with configuring RAID1?
[16:25] <Aron_>  I want to use a shell script to do some simple work which require root, and I have set the script file's attribute like this: -rwsr-xr-x  1 root root   but it does not work
[16:26] <Jack_Sparrow> onetinsoldier, http://pastebin.com/d35562c05             is a very generic monitor res I use for stubborn laptops
[16:26] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: thank you. i've already helped him out. he just needs someone to look at his log file. he would like to get 1024x768 resolution if possible..  xorg log: http://pastebin.com/mb100c3e xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/m5cf9b147
[16:26] <mikkr> `sudo aptitude update' on my feisty remote has begun throwing 404's at me. Anything I've missed?
[16:26] <IndyGunFreak> Kingsy-eee: i just found the SSD to slow.., I've not dropped a laptop to the point of damage... ever.  So I decided to take my chances
[16:26] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: is your machine a laptop?
[16:26] <bazhang> mikkr, you need to change the archive to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[16:26] <bazhang> mikkr, that is end of life
[16:26] <Jack_Sparrow> onetinsoldier, 1024 with vesa isnt a problem, it is with the ati driver and compiz that it can get messy
[16:26] <bazhang> !eol > mikkr
[16:27] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: hmmm, i see
[16:27] <Jack_Sparrow> onetinsoldier, brb
[16:27] <onetinsoldier> k
[16:27] <ramvi> SSH question, how do I upload a file from my computer to the ssh server I'm connected to?
[16:27] <Aron_> can anybody help me?
[16:27] <Aron_>   I want to use a shell script to do some simple work which require root, and I have set the script file's attribute like this: -rwsr-xr-x  1 root root   but it does not wor
[16:27] <fxhp> ﻿ramvi:  I use fish
[16:27] <Kingsy-eee> IndyGunFreak - ah, well yea worth it I suppose
[16:27] <Aron_> work
[16:28] <marry> imaginent : file? the file location is it?
[16:28] <marry> the folder*
[16:28] <fxhp> ﻿ramvi: its part of konq browser
[16:28] <mikkr> bazhang: oh ok. Som something like do-release-update is what I need to do?
[16:28] <Ward1983> shy does xchat kill my sound?
[16:28] <Ward1983> WHY does schat kill my sound?
[16:28] <bazhang> mikkr, this is server or desktop
[16:28] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: hello... still here?
[16:28] <mikkr> bazhang: server
[16:28] <ramvi> fxhp: I'm in terminal. I need a command, like put or something
[16:29] <imaginent> marry: it is the file, if the file is in the current location there is no need to include the entire location
[16:29] <bazhang> mikkr, /msg ubottu upgrade for the factoid link
[16:29] <Ward1983> well not kill
[16:29] <ramvi> How do I upload a file from my computer to the ssh server I'm connected to through terminal?
[16:29] <Ward1983> it just shifts all my sound sliders etc
[16:29] <fxhp> ﻿ramvi: SSH doesn't have a file transport level
[16:29] <fxhp> You need other software
[16:29] <mikkr> bazhang: thanks! I'm looking into it
[16:29] <AMDMutant> ramvi: fish, scp
[16:29] <fxhp> It is possible to transport files on the ssh protocal
[16:30] <kerstin> onetinsoldier: yes i am here
[16:30] <imaginent> marry: if it is in your Documents folder and you want to complete the location you can substitute /home/marry/Documents/file
[16:30] <kerstin> instaleld java, flash, my printer .. and had an eye on the chat ;)
[16:30] <Ward1983> how do i restrict xchat from altering my alsa settings? this is tretarded
[16:31] <cdshan> Can someone help me with RAID1 & GRUB?
[16:32] <The_Joe_> A file operation seems to have hung - pressing cancel did not stop it, is there anyway to force it to stop without killing Nautilus and having to restart X?
[16:32] <bazhang> Ward1983, what leads you to believe this is the case?
[16:32] <Wise> Hi
[16:32] <n8tuser> ramvi on another terminal use scp to upload to that ssh server
[16:32] <Solarium> Wise, hello
[16:32] <Wise> Solarium, Hi!
[16:32] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: ok, i see what you meant by this now --> " onetinsoldier, LEt me make a quick edit of that" <--  i thought you needed to make an edit for someone else before coming to help, lol. thank you!
[16:32] <Katsuya> hey guys!
[16:32] <n8tuser> The_Joe_-> what file operations?
[16:33] <Katsuya> er.... i have a slight problem.
[16:33] <Ward1983> bazhang, every single time i start xchat my volume slider is set to 0
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[16:33] <The_Joe_> n8tuser, I'm copying some files from a CD to HDD
[16:33] <The_Joe_> It's gotten to the last file and hung
[16:33] <Ward1983> bazhang, sometimes i cannot even fix it
[16:33] <Katsuya> can somebody help me with it?
[16:33] <Katsuya> i can
[16:33] <bazhang> Ward1983, and xchat is the only running process on your entire system?
[16:33] <Katsuya> i can't* run several games
[16:33] <cdshan> Can some one help me with configuring GRUB on RAID1?
[16:33] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: Jack_Sparrow would like you try out this xorg.conf file  -->  http://pastebin.com/m5cf9b147  ...you will ned to restart X after putting it in
[16:33] <Wise> Solarium, Hi!
[16:34] <bazhang> !give bazhang a test
[16:34] <Katsuya> hey guys..... can somebody help me?
[16:34] <Ward1983> bazhang, i dont need this kind of "help" thanx anyway
[16:34] <n8tuser> The_Joe_-> man fuser;   fuser -km /dev/cdrom   possibly
[16:34] <bazhang> Katsuya, what games
[16:34] <The_Joe_> n8tuser, right I'll have a go
[16:34] <Katsuya> er... like every one besides teeworlds
[16:34] <Katsuya> still, i only have like 5 games......
[16:34] <kerstin> onetinsoldier: okay I will try it out, thanks!
[16:34] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: hang on, may bad!
[16:34] <bazhang> Ward1983, what are your other processes; open top and tell the channel
[16:34] <Katsuya> tremulous wont run, all the tux games wont run... etc.
[16:34] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: that's yours!
[16:34] <The_Joe_> n8tuser, Nothing.
[16:35] <cdshan> ﻿Can some one help me with configuring GRUB on RAID1?
[16:35] <Katsuya> ugh.
[16:35] <n8tuser> The_Joe_-> i guess first thing is finding out, is it /dev/cdrom thats mapped to your cdrom drive?
[16:36] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: this one -->  http://pastebin.com/d35562c05  ...sorry
[16:36] <imaginent> If i install a virus infected windows application using wine? Can it do damage to my system?
[16:36] <kerstin> onetinsoldier: huh?
[16:36] <kerstin> onetinsoldier: ah okay :)
[16:36] <The_Joe_> imaginent, Only if the virus is written for Linux
[16:36] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: ok
[16:36] <cdshan> ﻿Can some one help me with configuring GRUB on RAID1?
[16:36] <n8tuser> imaginativeone-> damage to what extent? repairable damage?
[16:37] <n8tuser> imaginent -> damage to what extent? repairable damage?
[16:37] <imaginent> tnx
[16:37] <Katsuya> please, can somebody help me with this error?
[16:37] <Katsuya> it won't let me run any games besides teeworlds!
[16:37] <kerstin> I dont have an ÖCD monitor (seeing those modelines) ut illt ry it
[16:38] <Uuu> Hi! I know it's ubuntu channel, but maybe someone is Xorg geek and can answer my question ;) . In Xorg.?.log, of older Xorg, there is "Mem @ 0xff000000/23", (works nice), in newer one there is "Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1 rev 93, Mem @ 0xff000000/0,", X doesn't work.
[16:38] <Uuu> Does mem @ */0 means that there's no memory for video card allocated?
[16:38] <imaginent> n8tuser: like doing changes to my system without knowing, specially deleting all my entire system
[16:38] <jeff008> hello every body is there any body who van help me to part my disk with cd live hardy... /boot and the rest lvm2 ?
[16:38] <bazhang> Uuu, what version of ubuntu
[16:38] <Katsuya> T_T...
[16:38] <Jack_Sparrow> keres, what kind of a monitor do you havbe
[16:38] <Katsuya> somebody... help... me....
[16:38] <reaktae> does anyone know whether there is a piece of an 802.11n hardware FULLY supported in ubuntu? no ndiswrapper, recompiling etc...
[16:39] <keres> Jack_Sparrow: Dell 19' LCD
[16:39] <keres> why?
[16:39] <kerstin> Im back ;)
[16:39] <n8tuser> imaginent -> i dont believe so,  wine is just an app, it can be isolated to that particular app directory
[16:39] <keres> Jack_Sparrow: is this about metacity?
[16:39] <bazhang> keres, mistab for kerstin
[16:39] <Jack_Sparrow> keres, I hit the wrong person, I was trying for kirst
[16:39] <Katsuya> omfg.........
[16:39] <keres> oh
[16:39] <D3RGPS31> While I'm on Ubuntu, I can't visit some sites and my up/dl speed are throttled; but if I'm on mac or windows speeds are as they should and i can visit the sites i can't view on ubuntu (H33T.com)
[16:39] <Katsuya> somebody help....
[16:40] <Uuu> bazhang: i'm trying to help a newbie, it's not mine, but it can be 8.04 or 8.10 (and the older version is 5.10, xnewer ones don't wor
[16:40] <bazhang> Katsuya, keep the repeats down please
[16:40] <kerstin> same 800x600 :)
[16:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience > Katsuya
[16:40] <Uuu> sorry for the cut text ;]
[16:40] <Jack_Sparrow> kerstin, what monitor do you have
[16:40] <bazhang> Uuu, 5.10?
[16:40] <Uuu> ﻿bazhang: i'm trying to help a newbie, it's not mine, but it can be 8.04 or 8.10 (and the older version is 5.10, x in newer ones don't work at him)
[16:40] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: ok, i don't know, sorry
[16:40] <imaginent> n8tuser: because i see that drive Z is mapped to /
[16:40] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: you did restart X, right?
[16:40] <kerstin> its an old phollips crt monitor - its modeline (if availabkle) should be in my xorg log no?
[16:40] <Uuu> *at his Ubuntu
[16:41] <n8tuser> reaktae -> 802.11n  am not sure if that is even really a standard, would another 802.11n device to talk to it?
[16:41] <Jack_Sparrow> imachine, That is well documented as a bad thing as far as security
[16:41] <kerstin> yep, i took the freedom to kill gdm
[16:41] <Uuu> bezhang, yes, 5.10 works there.
[16:41] <bazhang> Uuu, 5.10 is eol; have him get a more recent version that is supported
[16:41] <Jack_Sparrow> kerstin, YEs, edit that example as needed for your available res.
[16:41] <n8tuser> imaginent -> try within wine, if you can even write to that Z drive
[16:41] <kerstin> uhm ok
[16:42] <Uuu> bazhang, yes, but X wnd sys in newer Ubuntus don't work. And I'm asking if this line mean an error: ﻿Mem @ 0xff000000/0
[16:42] <The_Joe_> n8tuser, Hah - opening the CD drive did it. Thanks anyway
[16:42] <jeff008> hardy for a server
[16:42] <Uuu> bazhang, I wonder about this "/0 "
[16:43] <n8tuser> Uuu -> he can try to run dmidecode to see all the memory used..ssee if anything he can correlate to
[16:43] <onetinsoldier> kerstin: ok. i don't know what's wrong. i'll try to examine the log file a some more, but i'm not that good with it. there are people here much  better at it than me. all i can say for now is to keep posting your problem description to the channel and hope someone takes a look
[16:43] <imaginent> n8tuser: ahh.. good.. access is denied...
[16:43] <kerstin> ok. I think I need betetr hardware anyway
[16:43] <roy_hobbs> What's the little circle button in the title bar of a window in XFCE?
[16:43] <n8tuser> The_Joe_ -> alright, you found the magic!  hehe
[16:43] <reaktae> n8tuser -> it's a draft, though well supported accross $m platform. i've got it nice and running at over 250MBps in XP...
[16:44] <kerstin> onetinsoldier: thank you for your kindness :)
[16:44] <D3RGPS31> While I'm on Ubuntu, I can't visit some sites and my up/dl speed are throttled; but if I'm on mac or windows speeds are as they should and i can visit the sites (H33T.com)
[16:44] <n8tuser> reaktae -> draft is not a standard,  and you really expect me to believe you are speeding at 250MBPs in the microsoft world?  hehe
[16:45] <The_Joe_> n8tuser, Hah - irony. I need to restart X anyway >.<
[16:45] <mario__> t!
[16:45] <bazhang> Uuu, well the point of getting a newer, supported system is that we can support it; no idea on a 5.10 system
[16:45] <mario__> it!
[16:45] <mario__> !it
[16:45] <Uuu> ﻿n8tuser: we'll try
[16:46] <Guest98295> rox filer is same with nautilus??
[16:46] <reaktae> n8tuser -> i know... so you're not aware of anything then, huh? i got a little further with smc's usb stick that comes with 2.6 compilable drivers but was hoping for something more polished....
[16:47] <Uuu> ﻿bazhang: no, you didn't understand or I'm not clean enough. :) X window system in 5.10 works, but in newer Ubuntu don't.
[16:47] <reaktae> anyone else on the 802.11n draft 2.0? I want it !!
[16:47] <n8tuser> reaktae -> nah, i seriously doubt it if you can find any that supports it
[16:47] <Uuu> *doesn't
[16:47] <bazhang> Uuu, then get him a newer one and we will troubleshoot :)
[16:47] <Cadman21> I'm on 8.10 and I can't get my top panel so show up. does anyone have an idea why this is?
[16:48] <reaktae> n8tuser -> thanks anyway homie!
[16:48] <imaginent> Anybody knows a terminal pdf reader?
[16:48] <Uuu> ﻿bazhang: it would be nice if you spoke Polish, everything is on our Polish forum ;p
[16:48] <kerstin> onetinsoldier: i gotta go seeyou later maybe and thanks for all the help
[16:49] <bazhang> Uuu, there is a polish ubuntu support channel #ubuntu-pl
[16:49] <fear_nothing> looking to perform a slim install of ubuntu 8.10 - the minimal install is terriable - I'm on fiber connection at it finally died at 45 %
[16:49] <Uuu> bazhang: but there are world-comprehensive xorg logs and xorg.conf, would you like to check it?
[16:49] <Guest98295> hans
[16:50] <fear_nothing> I used the minmal 10mb installer - Im hoping there is a way to use the regular live cd & remove the parts I don't need
[16:51] <bazhang> fear_nothing, remaster one to your liking
[16:51] <bazhang> !remaster > fear_nothing
[16:51] <yuzhen1615> exit
[16:51] <arkanabar> I've got a new USB stick I'd like to make bootable -- how do I do that?
[16:51] <Uuu> sorry, have2go now
[16:51] <Uuu> thanks for you time, we'll be fighting with this ;]
[16:51] <bazhang> arkanabar, persistent?
[16:52] <jeff008> so i've installed all wifi drivers, now i'm connected internet... i've installed lvmé, them modprobe dm-mod, kill all olds parts with cfdisk, create a part /boot primary ext3 , and i d'ont kow how to crate a logical volume with the rest before install hardy
[16:52] <n8tuser> fear_nothing -> you have an existing linux system? you can try debootstrap and pick and choose the packages you like to download
[16:52] <arkanabar> yah, I actually plan to make it into a DSL boot source.
[16:52] <alive> hello @ all
[16:52] <Vanostaajen> hi everybody
[16:52] <bazhang> arkanabar, /msg ubottu usb or check out pendrivelinux.com
[16:53] <Vanostaajen> I need some help
[16:53] <alive> lok
[16:53] <alive> i hope i can help ;)
[16:53] <Vanostaajen> how do I make a backup on a local network hard drive
[16:53] <arkanabar> URL looks like just what I'll need, bazhang.
[16:53] <sony> does anyone of you use another instant massaging protocoll than irc?
[16:53] <alive> hmmm have you search in google
[16:54] <Vanostaajen> yes
[16:54] <Katsuya> hey everyone!
[16:54] <alive> is ist a virual or physical drive
[16:54] <Katsuya> can somebody help me out with a problem?
[16:54] <arkanabar> I use Pidgin for AIM, M$.net, IRC & Yahoo!.
[16:54] <Vanostaajen> but unfortunatly they all say how to do it on something else
[16:54] <marketon> hey i having a problem setting up my wireless networking on laptop with a wireless network bus plz help!
[16:54] <alive> what networkcard?
[16:54] <jeff008> it's a physical disk
[16:54] <Katsuya> i have a problem running games, it wont even execute any games besides teeworlds T_T
[16:54] <bazhang> Vanostaajen, rsync?
[16:54] <Katsuya> familiar to anyone??
[16:55] <Vanostaajen> rsync??? =?
[16:55] <sony> has anyone of you testet the instant messaging protocoll xmpp yet?
[16:55] <Vanostaajen> @sony: no
[16:55] <bazhang> Katsuya, we need the error messages in paste.ubuntu.com
[16:55] <Katsuya> oh....
[16:55] <Katsuya> thanks :3
[16:55] <marketon> idk.... all it says is 22mbps wireless cardbus adapter.... i do have another one from network everywhere
[16:56] <Post> hello
[16:56] <pygi> hey folks
[16:56] <pygi> I'm doing
[16:56] <Post> i hAVE GOT AN PORBLEM
[16:56] <pygi> ufw allow OpenSSH
[16:56] <Vanostaajen> @marketon: what happens when you insert it in your pc?
[16:56] <alive> i use the madwifi driver
[16:56] <Post> sorry
[16:56] <pygi> and it asks me question
[16:56] <pygi> how would I feed an answer to it?
[16:56] <Post> http://img1.pixload.org/view/FLx06EkW/IMG_0002.JPG
[16:56] <marketon> @Vanostaajen: nothing... i have to restart my laptop for it to see the card
[16:56] <pygi> I mean so I dont have to do it during its execution
[16:56] <Post> if i woold start the setup i get this error
[16:57] <marketon> @Vanostaajen: and unplug my lan
[16:57] <Vanostaajen> and after that it works?
[16:57] <marketon> no
[16:57] <n8tuser> !who
[16:57] <Vanostaajen> hmmm
[16:58] <Katsuya> hey guys
[16:58] <Guest98295> how to set keyboard shortcut to open terminal??e.g=CTRL+Shift+T or something???
[16:58] <Vanostaajen> than I don't know the solution
[16:58] <Vanostaajen> sorry:s
[16:58] <alive> CTRL+ALT+T
[16:58] <Katsuya> to open a VIRTUAL terminal, you hit CTRL+SHIFT+F1.
[16:58] <kelvin911> how come when i insert sdhc memory, ubuntu doesnt automount it?
[16:59] <Katsuya> kelvin911, my dad had the same problem before XD
[16:59] <Post> http://img1.pixload.org/view/FLx06EkW/IMG_0002.JPG <-- does any one know what it mean? It comes after starting setup
[16:59] <Katsuya> kelvin911, sadly, we never were able to fix it...
[16:59] <kelvin911> i wonder could that be my card reader?
[16:59] <HnY_2009> Hi all and happy new year !!!
[17:00] <kelvin911> is sdhc very new?
[17:00] <Katsuya> kelvin911, thats what we suspected it was, but SDHC isn't that new.
[17:00] <kelvin911> the card reader i have is like 2005 2006
[17:01] <kelvin911> stuffs from 2007 is still new to me
[17:01] <Katsuya> kelvin911, ionno, maybe it is outdated.
[17:01] <Katsuya> kelvin911,  type a person's name you want to talk to and hit tab before you type.
[17:01] <kelvin911> my mind is still stuck in 2005
[17:01] <kelvin911> Katsuya: i am talkin to u
[17:01] <Katsuya> kelvin911,  lol
[17:02] <Katsuya> kelvin911, i know
[17:02] <kelvin911> Katsuya:  sdhc or usb memory stick ??  which should i keep?
[17:02] <Katsuya> kelvin911, depends.
[17:02] <kelvin911> both 16GB i bought from bestbuy moment ago
[17:03] <Katsuya> kelvin911, hm... i prefer USB memory sticks.
[17:03] <vermont> Is there an open-source "quicken-like" program?
[17:03] <kelvin911> the sdhc is nice because when it is pluged in the netbook, it doesnt stick out
[17:03] <Katsuya> kelvin911, still, an SDHC has more... portability.
[17:04] <kelvin911> but the usb mem sticks out
[17:04] <Katsuya> kelvin911, if it works, use the SDHC, if it doesn't, use the memo stick.
[17:04] <kelvin911> but usb mem has no compat. issue
[17:04] <Katsuya> hm...
[17:04] <AMDMutant> vermont: gnucash, kmymoney2
[17:04] <kelvin911> my desktop cant read the sdhc
[17:04] <Katsuya> take the USB then.
[17:04] <Vanostaajen> Is there anyone who knows how to backup ubuntu to a local network hard drive?
[17:04] <Katsuya> kelvin911,  its best to take the compatibility
[17:05] <kelvin911> does digital camera uses sdhc?
[17:05] <vermont> AMDMutant, thanks
[17:05] <Katsuya> yeah...
[17:05] <kelvin911> Katsuya: i am planning to get a camera so i decide to go for sdhc
[17:05] <AMDMutant> vermont: anytime
[17:05] <Katsuya> yeah.
[17:05] <Katsuya> but.
[17:05] <Katsuya> kelvin911,  only if you need that much room anyway.
[17:05] <kelvin911> Katsuya: maybe i will just keep both :D
[17:06] <Doldon> hi
[17:06] <Wise> hi
[17:06] <Katsuya> kelvin911, rofl. yeah.
[17:06] <nbeebo> can someone help me to install clean  install of ubuntu 8.10 without cd?
[17:06] <kelvin911> Katsuya: is kingston datatraveler 100 16GB any good?
[17:07] <Katsuya> hey everyone!
[17:07] <kelvin911> just got it for $27
[17:07] <Katsuya> uh...
[17:07] <bazhang> kelvin911, Katsuya please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:07] <Katsuya> how do i use a color-name
[17:07] <ortsvorsteher> !install
[17:07] <nbeebo> can someone help me to install clean  install of ubuntu 8.10 without cd?
[17:07] <ortsvorsteher> !install | nbeebo
[17:07] <nbeebo> ok thanks
[17:08] <ortsvorsteher> np
[17:08] <Vanostaajen> Is there anyone who knows how to backup ubuntu to a local network hard drive?
[17:08] <bazhang> Vanostaajen, /msg ubottu backup for some options
[17:08] <b_> Would wine work more programs if I took a working system32 folder and copied all its contents to my wine system32 folder?
[17:08] <kelvin911> Katsuya: so hows your dad solve the problem?
[17:08] <kelvin911> Katsuya: or did he returns it?
[17:08] <hurleyy> it possible create server stream mms:// in ubuntu?
[17:08] <bazhang> !ot > kelvin911
[17:09] <kelvin911> we are talking about how to mount the sdhc here smart ass
[17:09] <Katsuya> kelvin911, type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:11] <hurleyy> it possible create server stream mms:// in ubuntu?
[17:12] <BtbN> Hi, im on a fujitsu Siemens Amilo Notebook and i dont have any sound. My Soundcard seems to be detected correctly as an Intel ICH4, but i can't hear anything.The mixer seems to be correctly. Any Ideas? I disabled  pulseaudio because it was only confusing me more
[17:12] <bazhang> btbn hda intel?
[17:12] <ortsvorsteher> !sound
[17:12] <icecruncher> what the other app similar to rsibreak
[17:12] <kelvin911> how to install ubuntu?
[17:12] <ardchoille> !install
[17:13] <bazhang> BtbN, /msg ubottu hdaintel for a link
[17:13] <kelvin911> hiow do u mount sdhc?
[17:13] <BtbN> bazhang: no, well, i dont't know. The module it audo-loads is: snd_intel8x0
[17:13] <BtbN> bazhang: lspci: Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[17:13] <bazhang> BtbN, could you paste.ubuntu.com with lspci
[17:14] <piojunbabia> good morning everyone Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
[17:14] <kelvin911> bazhang: how to mount sdhc?
[17:14] <nbeebo> merry christmas!!
[17:14] <hurleyy> anybody help me??
[17:14] <BtbN> complete lspci, bazhang? The other devices don't lok like any sound-dev
[17:14] <bazhang> BtbN, did you check alsamixer to make sure nothing is muted
[17:14] <AMDMutant> hmmm... whats goin on?
[17:14] <bazhang> BtbN, nah, that was before you posted the lspci info :)
[17:15] <mib_4x7bz2> hi does anyone know how to adjust screen contrast in linux?
[17:15] <hurleyy> it possible creater server stream mms:// in ubuntu?
[17:15] <BtbN> bazhang: alsamixer looks ok
[17:15] <BtbN> all at 100%, nothingmuted
[17:15] <piojunbabia> can i access my files on my drive D: when i was still a winxp user?
[17:15] <nbeebo> hurleyy, i have no clue but u could google meanwhile.. i forgot about it sometimes
[17:15] <piojunbabia> i mean is that possible?
[17:15] <bazhang> piojunbabia, you could check with #ubuntu-ph to get a disk from the loco near you
[17:16] <Halitech> piojunbabia, as long as the partition still exists then yes you can
[17:16] <bazhang> BtbN, did you run the alsa test?
[17:16] <D3RGPS31> I can't view some sites and my internet speed is throttled on linux(ubuntu 8.10);but not on mac or windows. IPv6 is disabled
[17:16] <mib_4x7bz2> hi does anyone know how to adjust screen contrast in linux?
[17:16] <onetinsoldier> !ntfs | piojunbabia
[17:16] <piojunbabia> great! thanks for the links..
[17:17] <mib_4x7bz2> np
[17:17] <onetinsoldier> :-) good luck
[17:17] <piojunbabia> i will go through these...
[17:17] <mib_4x7bz2> thanks
[17:17] <mib_4x7bz2> hi does anyone know how to adjust screen contrast in linux?
[17:17] <bazhang> weofjoiwejf, hi
[17:17] <BtbN> bazhang: alsa-test?
[17:17] <weofjoiwejf> hi
[17:18] <BtbN> bazhang: speaker-test?
[17:18] <bazhang> BtbN, hang on a sec
[17:18] <Mageiriki-me-bas> http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=956225
[17:18] <Mageiriki-me-bas> ooop
[17:18] <Mageiriki-me-bas> sorry channel
[17:18] <Mageiriki-me-bas> wrong
[17:18] <b_> !samba
[17:18] <pengwyn> net install iso ubuntu url?
[17:18] <bazhang> BtbN, the channel #alsa has the test in their helper bot
[17:18] <mib_4x7bz2> hi does anyone know how to adjust screen contrast in linux?
[17:18] <pengwyn> (Im tired)
[17:19] <nbeebo> can i make my /home bootable while im at it?
[17:19] <bazhang> pengwyn, unetbootin?
[17:19] <hurleyy> nbeebo, well then I will find more .... but I do not get a solution
[17:19] <nbeebo> ehh
[17:19] <pengwyn> bazhang I have multible ubuntu disks, my net install one is missing
[17:19] <quizme> does anybody here run an ubuntu ec2 ami?
[17:19] <pengwyn> faster to download a new one and burn it
[17:19] <nbeebo> oh sorry
[17:20] <bazhang> pengwyn, you mean unetbootin or the minimal one (9mb)?
[17:20] <pengwyn> but I am so tired I can't think where the URL is
[17:20] <pengwyn> 8 -35 mb
[17:20] <pengwyn> anywhere in there.
[17:20] <pengwyn> minimal
[17:20] <bazhang> pengwyn, /msg ubottu minimal for the link
[17:20] <mib_4x7bz2> :(((
[17:20] <pengwyn> tnk
[17:20] <ilmob> hi all
[17:20] <pengwyn> tnks
[17:20] <mib_4x7bz2> hi does anyone know how to adjust screen contrast in linux?
[17:21] <BtbN> bazhang: How do i get the test out of it?
[17:21] <nbeebo> mib_4x7bz2,  i know how to adjust gamma...
[17:21] <onetinsoldier> ilmob: hello there
[17:21] <ilmob> lol well after 14 hours of curing swearing crying and help from many I have to admit I'm converted at thispoint
[17:21] <mib_4x7bz2> nbeebo: how?
[17:21] <bazhang> BtbN, you in the channel?
[17:21] <BtbN> yes
[17:21] <onetinsoldier> ilmob: Lol!
[17:21] <b_> I have a linux based device that I want to mount a share folder on my Ubuntu PC
[17:21] <Halitech> ilmob, only 14 hours? ~L~
[17:21] <pengwyn> 810  haha I was thinking 710  lol
[17:21] <nbeebo> mib_4x7bz2,  in terminal type: xgamma -g 2 , for example
[17:21] <D3RGPS31> I can't view some sites and my internet speed is throttled on linux(ubuntu 8.10);but not on mac or windows. IPv6 is disabled
[17:21] <nbeebo> 1 is default
[17:21] <b_> I'm having a hell of a time
[17:22] <onetinsoldier> ilmob: if you keep using linux, you can expect to have some hours like that. however, eventually, you'll get over the hump
[17:22] <pengwyn> thanks bazhang - I am so burned out right now. I can easilly make networks go ifdown / ifup out of pure spite.
[17:23] <onetinsoldier> ilmob: some more*
[17:23] <Cadman21> is there a away to restore Gnome desktop panels to defualt?
[17:23] <pengwyn> everybody got a god damn new box this year!!  Ackkk!!
[17:23] <bazhang> Cadman21, /msg ubottu resetpanels
[17:24] <Halitech> pengwyn, not everyone, I'm still on my 4 year old box :(
[17:24] <pottsi> test
[17:24] <pengwyn> Halitech - good luck migrating that to a core 2 quad
[17:24] <pottsi> i have an ubuntu error i can only connect when wired, never wirelesss
[17:25] <Halitech> pengwyn, don't plan on it till its dead ~L~
[17:25] <pengwyn> lol
[17:25] <pengwyn> I didn't plan either.  that's the problem
[17:25] <Halitech> pottsi, what kind of wireless card?
[17:25] <Cadman21> ok thanks
[17:25] <pottsi> Halitech: can i pm you easier to manage where im up to
[17:26] <pottsi> ?
[17:26] <jlopez8> Hello?
[17:26] <Halitech> pottsi, I may not have an answer so better in the room
[17:26] <pottsi> okay sure
[17:26] <jlopez8> anybody?
[17:26] <pottsi> Halitech: im not sure of the wireless card im new t ubuntu
[17:27] <bazhang> ask jlopez8
[17:27] <lietu> hi, downloaded ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso, burned it on two different cd-rws and tried to boot them on my laptop, I get the isolinux menu, but when I select "Try Ubuntu without any change to your computer" or "Install Ubuntu", the cd slightly spins and then the whole computer hangs, the BIOS takes over a lot of stuff apparently since the computer starts beeping when I tap the keyboard a couple of times and ctrl+alt+del works
[17:27] <jlopez8> I have pidgin messenger
[17:27] <jlopez8> what is a buddy ticker?
[17:27] <Halitech> pottsi, ok, open a terminal and use pastebin to show us the output of lsusb and lshw -C network
[17:28] <Halitech> pottsi, also, lspci
[17:28] <D3RGPS31> I can't view some sites and my internet speed is throttled on linux(ubuntu 8.10);but not on mac or windows. IPv6 is disabled :/
[17:29] <jlopez8> jlopez8@jlopez8-desktop:~$
[17:29] <ilmob> hey everyone quick question I'm using icewm and a theme (called thinblack2 it's awesome) but I'm having trouble setting a background. anyone know how? Do I actually have to edit the theme and if so what is the best editor for that? thnx thnx!
[17:29] <monkey_> hi all
[17:29] <jlopez8> hey
[17:30] <linxeh> lietu: you might need to try the alternate cd, or change the boot options - try looking on the wiki / forums for people with similar pcs to you
[17:30] <mib_4x7bz2> restaurant
[17:30] <linxeh> lietu: what PC is it?
[17:30] <lietu> lenovo/ibm thinkpad t43
[17:31] <onetinsoldier> ilmob: well, to set a desktop background i just use System --> Preferences --> Appearance --> Background(Tab)
[17:31] <pottsi> Halitech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/93300/
[17:31] <linxeh> hmm, odd :o
[17:32] <Ienorand> Is there an easy command to get the missing dependencies for a package as a nice output? (For example to in turn be purged). Or otherwise an easy way to purge autoremoved packages?
[17:32] <memphis> hey @all i have a problem that i cannot really identify... whenever I start my laptop the first time it boots it always hangs up starting the xserver... a black screen (looks like X) appears and the mouse coursor is placed in the middle but cant be moved. All i can do at that point is restart the machine and then it always boots normally
[17:32] <onetinsoldier> ilmob: you can also install and use a command line app called 'feh'
[17:32] <abby87> !ubuntu members ppa
[17:33] <memphis> i have looked at various logs like dmesg and /var/log but notthing seems to report an error,,, i ran memtest86 and it did not show anything
[17:33] <earthian> i can not build from sources using apt because apt-get build-dep gives me error that no dependencies can be satisfied because of wrong architecture (ubuntu netbook remix has LPIA instead of i386). Can anybody help me???
[17:33] <bazhang> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid#Atheros_AR242x pottsi
[17:33] <bazhang> abby87, /msg ubottu ppa
[17:33] <Cadman21> bazhand: when I used the command  < gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel> it seems to work but gives me this message " the panel encountered a problem while loading <OAFID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet>" and then ask if I want to delete it or not. what should I do?
[17:34] <zorglu_> q. i would like to install ubuntu from a usb key, where should i look ?
[17:34] <magenNET> i want to extract a .rar file but it says not supported. pls help
[17:34] <bazhang> zorglu_, persistent?
[17:34] <Halitech> pottsi, ok, you are using the atheros chipset
[17:34] <veloc1ty> magenNET, you need to install unrar.. sudo apt-get install unrar
[17:34] <zorglu_> bazhang: yep, this is for a fresh install on a partition of mine
[17:34] <pottsi> bazhang:  i dont have security key on my connection
[17:34] <onetinsoldier> Ienorand: apt-cache depends <package>  -->  to show the depends of a package   'rdepends' in place depends' of  to show reverse depends
[17:35] <bazhang> pottsi, there are a couple of links there
[17:35] <magenNET> veloc1ty: its non-free  ?
[17:35] <bazhang> zorglu_, /msg ubottu usb for a couple of options
[17:35] <D3RGPS31> I can't view some sites and my internet speed is throttled on linux(ubuntu 8.10);but not on mac or windows. IPv6 is disabled :/
[17:35] <veloc1ty> sorry, don't know by heart.. but i think it's free
[17:35] <zorglu_> bazhang: thanks, klooking
[17:35] <bazhang> !rar
[17:35] <jeff008> hello, i have a questiion about hardy... what is the ideal size if i wantt /boot primary bootable type ext3?
[17:36] <pottsi> ahh okay bazhang i apologise for my stupidity :)
[17:37] <pengwyn> bazhang - YOU LIT ME UP!! THANKS
[17:37] <chokri> hi
[17:37] <pengwyn> 9MB + blank CD
[17:38] <billybigrigger> how do i get my fan running? i have been experiencing overheating issues, and i just booted my laptop cold this morning, installed hddtemp, played an x264 and watched my hddtemp climb from 31 to 48 and stopped playing the movie, now since my fans arent working it just sits at 48, and i have no clue how hot my cpu's are...is there anyway to kick the fans on manually? i have an HP dv9700 laptop with dual core 2.1ghz, running intrep
[17:38] <billybigrigger> id
[17:38] <tavish> hi! can i ask a question related to installing ubuntu and windows on a portable hard disk
[17:38] <Valenstein> how do i connect to the internet in ubuntu???
[17:38] <pengwyn> billybigrigger, you could always hotwire the fan ON.
[17:39]  * pengwyn has been known to do that.
[17:39] <pengwyn> god i am happy
[17:39] <syahril> Execuse Me... Helloo... Sorry for bad English... May I ask?
[17:39] <mk321> can someone help me mount my mp3 player?
[17:39] <ortsvorsteher> whats your preferred language? syahril
[17:39] <billybigrigger> pengwyn, or use an os that doesn't fry my laptop
[17:40] <onetinsoldier> Ienorand: hello, did that answer your question?
[17:40] <Webspot> Hey. Could anyone help me in automounting my cd drive on my Ubuntu Server?
[17:40] <pengwyn> laptop..  ah.. there's the rub.  FANS in laptops always get me
[17:40] <syahril> I was install Lam-7.1.4 in ubuntu but i cannot find how to configure using multiprocessor?
[17:40] <mk321> pengwyn: easy there shakespear
[17:40] <Valenstein> hello, is there anybody in there?
[17:41] <syahril> my cpu detected with lamboot is 1, is it true?
[17:41] <pengwyn> mk321, just showin the love trying to help some.  before I burn out
[17:41] <ortsvorsteher> !ask | Valenstein
[17:42] <lietu> ortsvorsteher: he did ask a question
[17:42] <ortsvorsteher> yes, he did. sry
[17:42] <D3RGPS31> I can't view some sites and my internet speed is throttled on linux(ubuntu 8.10);but not on mac or windows. IPv6 is disabled >.>
[17:42] <D3RGPS31> \
[17:42] <Valenstein> ho do i connect to the internet in ubuntu???
[17:42] <pengwyn> billybigrigger, my bad on that I skipped over where ya said it was a laptop
[17:43] <lietu> D3RGPS31: do you know what network chip you have?
[17:43] <AMDMutant> syahril: you here
[17:43] <pengwyn> On the other hand if the fan ain't spinning at all, or making noise, you should replace it
[17:43] <skorasaurus> !internet
[17:43] <ortsvorsteher> !dsl
[17:43] <D3RGPS31> D3RGPS31: no
[17:44] <ortsvorsteher> !modem
[17:44] <onetinsoldier> Valenstein: you might want to be more decriptive if you can. Wired or wireless? describe how you don't seem to be able to get connected
[17:44] <billybigrigger> pengwyn, so i take it you don't have a laptop?
[17:44] <pengwyn> exactamundo
[17:44] <billybigrigger> pengwyn, and i take it you can't help me?
[17:44] <lietu> D3RGPS31: how much is "some sites"? 2%, 25%, 50%, 75%, 98%?
[17:44] <blackhole> Hi, I am using ubuntu 8.04 LTS, My TV tuner card doesn't seems to be detected. I am using "odyssey internal tv tuner card"
[17:45] <pengwyn> well I might help in seperating your problem from a hardware (eg bad fan) from a software (control) problem
[17:45] <D3RGPS31> not a %, just some sites; h33t.com (torrent site)
[17:45] <pengwyn> ain't like I am stupid.  just been awake too long... atm
[17:45] <pottsi> on one of the commands i get error un recoverable ?
[17:46] <D3RGPS31> lietu: sorry, that was to you xD
[17:46] <CelsoLeite> /j #ubuntu-br
[17:46] <syahril_> Configuration lamboot_schema with dual-processor?
[17:46] <CelsoLeite> /j #ubuntu-br
[17:46] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: now wiat... are you saying that site is totally blocked? there's a difference between 'some site being throttled' and 'some sites being totally blocked'
[17:47] <lietu> D3RGPS31: well then I don't have a clue, I used to have a problem where ~50-75% of sites weren't available
[17:47] <pengwyn> billybigrigger, hp got nvidia or ati?
[17:47] <onetinsoldier> wait*
[17:47] <Valenstein>  have a cable internet... my internet provider gave me a dialer package to install, but i have trouble with the installing process... so i want to know how to set up internet settings manually..
[17:47] <pengwyn> nvidia has the ntune
[17:47] <billybigrigger> pengwyn, nvidia
[17:47] <pengwyn> I dunno about ati
[17:47] <pengwyn> you have ntune?
[17:47] <billybigrigger> no
[17:47] <billybigrigger> what is it?
[17:47] <pengwyn> direct fan control?
[17:47] <pengwyn> http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=41382
[17:47] <kebomix> how to install .tar.gz programs ?
[17:47] <billybigrigger> is it software? couldnt find it with apt so where do i get it
[17:48] <pengwyn> right, is your box dual boot?
[17:48] <pengwyn> by chance?
[17:48] <onetinsoldier> kebomix: let's take it one step at a time, ok?
[17:48] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier my bandwidth isn't throttled on mac & windows, but it is on linux; i'm able to view h33t on mac & windows, but not on linux; IPv6 is disabled on all 3
[17:48] <pengwyn> billybigrigger, ^ dual boot?
[17:48] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: throttled...? or blocked?
[17:48] <earthian> why MTU does not change to 1492 in my UBUNTU computers from DHCP while Debian PC does change its MTU?
[17:48] <Guest14560> hello everybody
[17:48] <kebomix> onetinsoldier : ok
[17:48] <onetinsoldier> kebomix: what is the name of the file?
[17:49] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier bandwidth is throttled; h33t is blocked; ON linux
[17:49] <billybigrigger> pengwyn, haha no, i dont run windoze anymore at all, havent forever, and im finally getting sick of this fan issue
[17:49] <kebomix> djl-1.2.7.tar.gz
[17:49] <billybigrigger> pengwyn, so i want to fix it
[17:49] <pengwyn> billybigrigger, I hear ya. relax.
[17:49] <usser> Valenstein, cable is usually easy all you need is hook up your cable box to your computer or router if u have a couple of computer with the network cable
[17:49] <billybigrigger> pengwyn, so ntune or rivatuner is for doze correct?
[17:49] <nbeebo> how to install read and write support of ntfs?
[17:49] <usser> Valenstein, no need to install anything
[17:50] <Ienorand> onetinsoldie: Kinda, now I'm trying to figure out how to pipe apt-cache into apt-get purge...
[17:50] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: install 'iptraf' and watch it. see if you get any clues from it when trying to access the site
[17:50] <Ienorand>  apt cache
[17:50] <Guest14560> nickserv
[17:50] <Guest14560> NickServ
[17:50] <ortsvorsteher> !register
[17:50] <pengwyn> billybigrigger, http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=56069
[17:50] <Valenstein> the dialer is required to connect...
[17:51] <onetinsoldier> kebomix: ok... first, to unpack it. if you have someplace specific you want to unpack it to, i recommend changing to that directory first
[17:51] <vpew> can anyone tell me the extract command?
[17:51] <pengwyn> billybigrigger,    ntune is for doze
[17:51] <usser> Valenstein, whats your cable provider?
[17:51] <ortsvorsteher> Valenstein: which provider is it? in which country? how you are connected to the internet?
[17:52] <pengwyn> billybigrigger, intel or amd?
[17:52] <billybigrigger> intel
[17:52] <onetinsoldier> kebomix: ok, for a .tar.gz or a .tgz file, the command line is  -->  tar -xzvf /path/to/file.tar.gz - C .
[17:52] <Valenstein> 012 net in Israel.. connected with cable modem
[17:52] <pengwyn> billybigrigger, smart on you!  ;o)
[17:52] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier website takes too long to respond; iptraf hasn't shown a response from h33t D:
[17:52] <billybigrigger> hehe
[17:52] <onetinsoldier> kebomix: or for a gui you can install and use file-roller
[17:53] <AMDMutant> D3RGPS31: still not resolved huh?
[17:53] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: can you ping it? are you running a firewall at all?
[17:53] <D3RGPS31> AMDMutant: nope :/
[17:53] <ortsvorsteher> Valenstein: is you cable modem box something like a dhcp router?
[17:53] <vpew> can anyone tell me the extract command?
[17:53] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: i can't ping it from linux :/
[17:53] <AMDMutant> D3RGPS31: how if you use other distro?
[17:53] <Valenstein> dunno what is dhcp router (:
[17:53] <nbeebo> how to install read and write support of ntfs?
[17:54] <D3RGPS31> AMDMutant: i'd never do that; i also don't have any blank disks
[17:54] <AMDMutant> nbeebo: ntfs-3g
[17:54] <byteme__> hello
[17:54] <pengwyn> billybigrigger, in the worst case scenario. You know a fan has two wires, wire the bastard up.  anyway.  I don't know the answer for ya. I got to be honest here, I looked and tried to find some relevant shit.
[17:54] <victorlf> Hi. Can I do a text-installation with an Ubuntu LiveCD?
[17:54] <byteme__> can i boot ubuntu from a thumdrive on a mac?
[17:54] <AMDMutant> D3RGPS31: you use 8.10?
[17:54] <billybigrigger> pengwyn, ive been searching for awhile too
[17:54] <nbeebo> amdmutant, thanks
[17:54] <D3RGPS31> AMDMutant: yes
[17:54] <ortsvorsteher> Valenstein: can you plug in a network cable in this box?
[17:55] <billybigrigger> pengwyn, the best i can come up with is that its ACPI
[17:55] <urukhai> waaassuuuup
[17:55] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: ok, i can't ping it either. however. i do get a response from an nslookup on it
[17:55] <billybigrigger> pengwyn, hdd temp is up to 53 at an idle
[17:55] <Valenstein> yes, but i connect it through USB
[17:55] <vpew> how do i extract file x into folder y anyone?
[17:55] <ZAKhan> how can i find out recently installed deb files?
[17:55] <urukhai> hi kind ubutu users
[17:55] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: others are able to
[17:55] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: nslookup www.h33t.com  Address: 87.233.179.135
[17:55] <AMDMutant> nbeebo: k
[17:55] <billybigrigger> pengwyn, this is stupid i cant cool the bugger down she justs gets hotter and hotter
[17:56] <urukhai> im penguin
[17:56] <ortsvorsteher> Valenstein: you have more details about the box?
[17:56] <pengwyn> billybigrigger, the suse folks (From what I remember in the past) used to always tell me to TURN OFF ACPI in bios.  YOu could buy cans of dust off and cool it manually!!!
[17:56] <urukhai> превед
[17:56] <pengwyn> I know I am being sarcastic.
[17:56]  * pengwyn bad
[17:56] <billybigrigger> pengwyn, i should be able to cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THERM and it should output some info but there's nothing in /thermal_zone/
[17:56] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: you have any ideas?
[17:56] <Valenstein> ortsvorsteher: Terayon cable modem TJ 715X
[17:57] <pengwyn> sensors?
[17:57] <pengwyn> lm sensors?
[17:57] <pwds> Please help me... I installed ubuntu 8.10  and nvidia drivers...but problem with resolution only  640x480 ...what probem ?
[17:57] <urukhai> по русски понимаете?
[17:57] <bazhang> !ru | urukhai
[17:57] <billybigrigger> pengwyn, this HP laptop doesnt have a great bios, can't configure too much, pheonixbios is junk
[17:57] <urukhai> i gonna speak english with you
[17:57] <AMDMutant> D3RGPS31: route
[17:57] <D3RGPS31> AMDMutant: route?
[17:58] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: route is a powerful network command
[17:58] <billybigrigger> pengwyn, im pretty sure i've tried lmsensors a few months ago and it couldn't find any
[17:58] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: i'm not good with it tho
[17:58] <AMDMutant> D3RGPS31: run route
[17:58] <urukhai> allo
[17:58] <ortsvorsteher> Valenstein: i see, the box has also a plug in place for network cable. may your provider settings are in this box?
[17:58] <D3RGPS31> AMDMutant: pastebin what spits out?
[17:58] <google_> hi
[17:58] <urukhai> wassup
[17:59] <AMDMutant> D3RGPS31: is it same as you have on your windows box?
[17:59] <google_> what
[17:59] <google_> box?
[17:59] <pengwyn> urukhai, penguin is different from pengwyn chieftain of the pen clan
[17:59] <flajann> I am having trouble with the Workspace Switcher under Ubuntu 8.10 on a dual screen setup-- everytime I try to increase the number of workspaces on the 2nd screen, it does it for the first screen instead. Any ideas?
[17:59] <D3RGPS31> AMDMutant: IP isn't static, but i believe the gateway isn't * xD
[17:59] <Valenstein> ortsvorsteher: no, they aren't
[18:00] <pengwyn> billybigrigger, backup your data and reinstall your (stuff) Or hot wire the fan make sure it's lit
[18:00] <pwds> I hawe problem..i installed ubuntu 8.10 and nvidia drivers but resolution only 640x480 what problem ? my video card is nvidia FX 5500
[18:00] <nbeebo> oh why, oh why is this so annoying, this installing ubuntu without cd, oh why...
[18:00] <AMDMutant> D3RGPS31: you use cable or wireless?
[18:00] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: just to let you know, i am able to pull up the site ok here.
[18:00] <D3RGPS31> AMDMutant: cable
[18:00] <mroc> i've run across a webpage that requires activex for a plugin (garmin).  is there any way to get this working in linux?
[18:01] <nick__> pwds: are you sure you installed the correct drivers?
[18:01] <AMDMutant> D3RGPS31: you got dhcp?
[18:01] <D3RGPS31> AMDMutant: auto, yes
[18:01] <pwds> Nick_, yes
[18:01] <Halitech> nbeebo, does the system have an OS on it      currently?
[18:01] <pwds> i installed nvidia-glx-173
[18:02] <pengwyn> billybigrigger, where hot wire == 12VDC on one side of the coil and Ground = the other
[18:02] <nick__> pwds: give me a minute, let me check something
[18:02] <pwds> ok
[18:02] <Schuenemann> I can't play DVDs. I installed libdvdcss2 from medibuntu but still can't play.
[18:02] <nbeebo> halitech, i meant to post that in ubuntu-offtopic but im burning ubuntu with another computer cause mine isnt working.. well well
[18:02] <pengwyn> billybigrigger, isolate it if you have to, but make it spin!!!
[18:02] <ortsvorsteher> Valenstein: i just read the manual... did you read the manual of the box?
[18:02] <Halitech> nbeebo, ok, was going to suggest unetbootin if you need it
[18:02] <pengwyn> billybigrigger, -- IMO
[18:03] <mars_> hi
[18:03] <mars_> how do i rebind a key in ubuntu?
[18:03] <mars_> I want super_r to be alt
[18:04] <nbeebo> halitech, the i1386 version on the website is read as amd64..
[18:04] <Halitech> nbeebo, never noticed that before, been awhile since I've downloaded and used it
[18:05] <Valenstein> ortsvorsteher: yes... well i have access only to the webpage of providers' dialers downloads... i just need to configure my own dialer so that i will be able to access internet with my own account
[18:05] <nbeebo> halitech, i read somewhere it only supports older versions so that may be it.. anyway im 20% done with burning
[18:05] <Halitech> nbeebo, I think they update frmo time to time but never know when
[18:06] <pengwyn> billybigrigger, -- if you hot wire the fan, it WILL SPIN.
[18:06] <marry> whatever I videos I am watching its black and white.. can anyone tell me why?
[18:06] <Halitech> pengwyn, billybigrigger as long as the fan isn't toast
[18:06] <abhishek> which is the most popular dock for ubuntu, similar to the OSX dock? and where can i get it?
[18:07] <erle-> how to make a bash for loop on lines of a file?
[18:07] <unop_> erle-, while read line; do echo $line; done < /path/to/file
[18:07] <abhishek> ?
[18:07] <ortsvorsteher> Valenstein: are you able to open other websites? the only thing i found in http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-625580.html was to configure your own dialer and downlad http://cables2.netvision.net.il/linux/l2tp-dialer.tar.gz
[18:08] <linxeh> abhishek: buy a mac
[18:08] <erle-> unop_, thx
[18:08] <unop_> abhishek, kiba dock
[18:08] <bashca> any 1 can help me  please ??? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m4207f178
[18:09] <abhishek> onop_, thanks
[18:09] <Schuenemann> I can't play DVDs. I installed libdvdcss2 from medibuntu but still can't play. I get that same error about encrypted dvd
[18:09] <mars_> abhishek: whats this dock anyway?
[18:09] <Valenstein> ortsvorsteher: i don't able to open other websites... i'll check out the first link... the second is of the other provider...
[18:09] <unop_> mars_, something like this here - http://farm1.static.flickr.com/67/195531812_0337ff745d.jpg
[18:10] <mars_> i hated this... thats so superficial
[18:10] <pengwyn> Halitech, which again brings me back to seperating this problem from a hardware/software
[18:10] <mars_> reminds me why i installed ubuntu on my macbook ;)
[18:11] <Halitech> pengwyn, if itt doesn't spin up  wiring  direct, its hardware :)
[18:11] <pengwyn> a cheap CB radio 3 amp power supply could run the fan
[18:11] <pengwyn> CUT the wire
[18:11] <pengwyn> solder
[18:11] <bashca> any 1 can help me  please ??? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m4207f178
[18:11] <pengwyn> disconnect it
[18:11] <pengwyn> etc
[18:11] <ortsvorsteher> Valenstein: sorry, at this point i cannot support you more...
[18:11] <pengwyn> try not to fsck it up
[18:11] <anna_> #ubuntu-fr
[18:11] <anna_> oops sorry
[18:11] <byteme__> hi anna
[18:12] <byteme__> you french?
[18:12] <anna_> hi
[18:12] <anna_> yes
[18:12] <anna_> but i speak english
[18:12] <pengwyn> yep hakitech
[18:12] <byteme__> good
[18:12] <byteme__> im english
[18:12] <pengwyn> yep hakilech even
[18:13] <vishal> hello everybody.. is there anyone who can help me out in installing ubuntu 8.10 in my pendrive from already my laptop and i am not having any live cd or iso image.. just want to install the latest updated version of ubuntu as its already installed on my laptop..!!
[18:13] <rogue780> when I try to install anything adept now I get the error: "Package download failed, Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." anyone know how to fix this?
[18:13] <Halitech> pengwyn, having trouble typing? ;)
[18:13] <earthian> are there any intrepid based ubuntu remix install images available somewhere??
[18:13] <pengwyn> I want the ipcop running on a embedded next
[18:13] <abhishek> mars_: its a panel on your desktop with application icons to make life easy
[18:13] <pengwyn> yeah
[18:13] <anna_> i have a problem with nautilus, new directories are not displayed, as the directories i've created with F-Spot, for my camera
[18:13] <marry> whatever I videos I am watching its black and white.. can anyone tell me why?
[18:14] <earthian> *ubuntu netbook remix
[18:14] <earthian> :)
[18:14] <Valenstein> ortsvorsteher: well i have downloaded the ISP dialer installer, but i have not success in the installation of it, so i am looking for other methods...
[18:14] <anna_> i have transfered my photos, but they are invisible !
[18:14] <saler> rogue780, wat type of connection u use
[18:14] <anna_> an idea ?
[18:14] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: hello... still here?
[18:14] <usser> erle-, something like that http://pastebin.com/m33d1e557
[18:14] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: yes
[18:14] <ortsvorsteher> Valenstein: so i wish you good luck. i have no idea how to configure this modem or a dialer.... :/
[18:14]  * pengwyn AFK ATM
[18:15] <FisherPrice> Hi, I've just tried to upgrade to Intrepid and now I don't have my NVidia card working. After I've tried Envy OR the "Hardware Drivers" I get this error... http://pastebin.com/m6d638c3f
[18:15] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: ok, you might want to install traceroute-nanog and try and run a traceroute on www.h33t.com
[18:15] <Valenstein> ortsvorsteher: ok, thank for the help anyway
[18:15] <ljsuiheiu> hello
[18:15] <hurleyy> it possible creater server stream mms:// in ubuntu?
[18:15] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: it won't help
[18:16] <ljsuiheiu>  I'm looking for a bit of help... I've got an old laptop with an ISA on-board sound card, the card works when I force load the module (snd-es1688) but HAL isn't seeing it
[18:16] <rogue780> saler, 1mbit dsl
[18:16] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: roger... it's not working for me either
[18:16] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: but i can pull up the site!
[18:16] <ortsvorsteher> np
[18:17] <ljsuiheiu> I've placed snd-es1688 on /etc/modules and alsa sees it, sound works, everything seems ok but HAL reports no devices with the sound capability (and Ubuntu Hardware Testing doesn't see any sound devices at all)
[18:17] <ljsuiheiu> I'm not very familiar with how HAL detects devices, does anyone have any ideas?
[18:17] <bashca> damn no 1 can help !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[18:17] <saler> rogue780, did u try apt-get  update before downloading
[18:17] <rogue780> saler, it was working fine, then I installed kubuntu-restricted-extras and adept doesn't work, but regular old apt-get does
[18:17] <marry> whatever videos I am watching its black and white.. can anyone tell me why?
[18:18] <Ienorand> onetinsoldier: Sorry you still got time? I'm looking to purge autoremoved packages (more specifically all the junk left after installing and then purging gnome and xorg on a server install ubuntu, but I'm more after a method for general know-how) So what I was thinking is that I could look up the unmet dependencies of e.g. gnome and then pipe this through "apt-get purge", but I can't get this into any suitable output form
[18:18] <mike22> I accidentally screwed up my Glossy theme, can someone upload theirs from Hardy?
[18:19] <onetinsoldier> Ienorand: yes. i'm still here... hang on for a moment
[18:19] <ljsuiheiu> any ideas, anyone? ISA sound card on old laptop, works fine by manually loading snd-es1688 but HAL doesn't see it...
[18:19] <pwds> I hawe problem..i installed ubuntu 8.10 and nvidia drivers but resolution only 640x480 what problem ? my video card is nvidia FX 5500
[18:19] <ljsuiheiu> ubuntu 8.10, btw
[18:19] <rogue780> saler, apt-get update did nothing to help adept's problem
[18:20] <horstle> hi
[18:21] <saler> rogue780,apt-get install -f
[18:21] <rogue780> -f?
[18:21] <unop_> force
[18:21] <pengwyn> fix
[18:21] <onetinsoldier> Ienorand: have you tried deborphan?
[18:21] <pengwyn> lol
[18:22] <pengwyn> who's mext
[18:22] <Ienorand> onetinsoldier: no, will take a look then...
[18:22] <unop_> it will all be revealed in a moment ..
[18:22] <Halitech> ljsuiheiu, isa is not a very easy thing to get working ... there is some info here http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/slackware-linux-help/12780-problem-old-isa-sound-card-isapnptools-config.html
[18:23] <onetinsoldier> Ienorand: ok, i'm not sure just how much help that will be
[18:23] <pengwyn> isa.. yipe
[18:23] <pengwyn> MFM
[18:23] <ljsuiheiu> the card itself is working, sound comes out fine, I just had to load snd-es1688 manually and give it some options
[18:23] <ljsuiheiu> my only problem is that HAL doesn't see it
[18:24] <ljsuiheiu> and thus e.g. hwtest-gtk doesn't test it (I wanted to contribute by sending a report from hwtest-gtk with notes on how to get the thing working)
[18:24] <bashca> any 1 can help me  please ??? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m4207f178
[18:24] <FisherPrice> Hi, I've just tried to upgrade to Intrepid and now I don't have my NVidia card working. After I've tried Envy OR the "Hardware Drivers" I get this error... http://pastebin.com/m6d638c3f
[18:25] <onetinsoldier> Ienorand: you could also take a look at system-cleaner. again, no idea just how much help that will be. let me know!
[18:25] <pengwyn> hardware abstaction layer
[18:25] <byteme__> <------hardware distruction layer
[18:25] <pengwyn> should be HOB hardware obstruction
[18:26] <pengwyn> lol your on my shit!
[18:26] <byteme__> lol
[18:26] <pengwyn> santa gives you platinum gifts!
[18:26] <byteme__> i wish
[18:26] <mike22>  I accidentally screwed up my Glossy theme, can someone upload theirs from Hardy?
[18:26] <pengwyn> not the lump of coal 8% alcohol I got
[18:26] <byteme__> only in my catalytic converter
[18:27] <ljsuiheiu> the module is loaded and the card works (aplay -l sees it, sound comes out, GNOME mixer works find), lshal doesn't show it though
[18:27] <byteme__> sorry dude
[18:27] <byteme__> what can you make with that?
[18:27] <byteme__> filtered 8%?
[18:27] <pulsewave> bashca: not sure, but i would try to delete those 2 debs in /var/cache/apt/archives/ then try to run the apt-get install command again
[18:27] <king> Does Ubuntu MID run on openmoko freerunner?
[18:28] <byteme__> and carbon monoxide
[18:28] <fustrated> Does anyone know why youtube, flash, streaming videos are so choppy and keeps buffering? I'm not using gnash, and I have normal flash installed.. No help to google, just similar problems with no fixes.
[18:28] <pengwyn> a buzz in your sound card 8% THD
[18:28] <Halitech> fustrated, what video card do you have?
[18:28] <pengwyn> should be THC
[18:28] <byteme__> network?
[18:28] <byteme__> oh my
[18:28] <byteme__> total harmonic combustion?
[18:28] <king> fustrated, similar problem here. Intel X3100 onboard video
[18:28] <pengwyn> 800MHz box  I thinkzx
[18:29] <king> Halitech, ^
[18:29] <fustrated> Halitech: Onboard 8200 geforce, I don't think it's my specs. xp runs it fine.
[18:29] <fustrated> halitech: vista also runs it fine
[18:29] <pengwyn> 800MHz == choppy crap youtube video
[18:29] <ljsuiheiu> does anyone know why HAL would not detect a device when the module is loaded and it has an entry in /dev/ ?
[18:29] <Halitech> fustrated, how much ram given to the video?
[18:29] <ljsuiheiu> I see the sound card there in /dev/snd/pcmsomething
[18:30] <pwds> I hawe problem..i installed ubuntu 8.10 and nvidia drivers but resolution only 640x480 what problem ? my video card is nvidia FX 5500
[18:30] <ljsuiheiu> and /proc/asound, and everything else is working fine
[18:30] <gizmo> can i ask
[18:30] <gizmo> why y wireless cant detect?
[18:30] <gizmo> can anyone help me
[18:30] <pengwyn> lexicon!!!
[18:30] <Halitech> king, do you have the proper drivers installed for it?
[18:30] <usser> pwds, how did u install it?
[18:30] <usser> pwds, did u use ubuntu's restricted manager?
[18:30] <pwds> yes
[18:30] <pwds> manager....
[18:30] <pengwyn> what uht ught
[18:31] <king> Halitech, Everything is configured by default. I do not need separate drivers for it afaik.
[18:31] <pwds> but only 640x480 resolution
[18:31] <pwds> ...
[18:31] <usser> pwds, what does cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nvidia say?
[18:31] <fustrated> System Information for chad-desktop: CPU: AuthenticAMD
[18:31] <FisherPrice> pwds: i have the same problem
[18:31] <fustrated> halitech: 512mb
[18:31] <gizmo> can anyone help me
[18:31] <usser> !ask
[18:31] <gizmo> why my WIRELESS can detect?
[18:31] <FisherPrice> Hi, I've just tried to upgrade to Intrepid and now I don't have my NVidia card working. After I've tried Envy OR the "Hardware Drivers" I get this error... http://pastebin.com/m6d638c3f
[18:31] <Halitech> fustrated, how much do you have for the system?
[18:32] <fustrated> halitech: I just posted my specs.. I have 4gb in but, 32bit so 3gig is reconized
[18:32] <pengwyn> Ifound the best way to fix the x.org /XF86 thing is to force feed it down the throat
[18:32] <billybigrigger> pengwyn, sorry was grabbin a coffee
[18:32] <Flare183> ...
[18:32] <D3RGPS31> I can't view/ping some sites and my internet speed is throttled on linux(ubuntu 8.10);but not on mac or windows. IPv6 is disabled
[18:32]  * Flare183 thinks everyone needs to come down
[18:32] <billybigrigger> pengwyn, my laptop is still under warranty, im not crackin the case to jump the fan
[18:32] <gizmo> can anyone help me on my wireless detect..it can detech
[18:32] <Flare183> !wireless | gizmo
[18:32] <billybigrigger> anyone had good/bad expeirences with external laptop coolers? how well do they work?
[18:33] <FisherPrice> usser: i have the same problem i think that pwds had
[18:33] <mike22> Can someone please upload their Glossy theme from Hardy or tell me where to download it? I accidentally messed mine up and I really like that theme.
[18:33] <pengwyn> billybigrigger, light that fan up, if you have to cut the wires do it in a way that is non destructive, else FEED it cool air alternativly
[18:33] <usser> FisherPrice, what is your card?
[18:33] <usser> FisherPrice, what version of ubuntu are u using?
[18:33] <Flare183> mike22: Glossy theme? The color scheme or what?
[18:33] <Flare183> Finally it works
[18:33] <pengwyn> I have some expreriance, with a BOX FAN in the laptop
[18:33] <ljsuiheiu> :~$ udevadm info --query=all --name=/dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[18:33] <ljsuiheiu> P: /devices/isa/es1688.0/sound/card0/pcmC0D0p
[18:33] <ljsuiheiu> N: snd/pcmC0D0p
[18:33] <ljsuiheiu> S: char/116:5
[18:33] <ljsuiheiu> :~$ hal-find-by-capability --capability sound
[18:33] <ljsuiheiu> :~$
[18:33] <FisherPrice> usser: GeForce 7600 GS
[18:34] <FisherPrice> usser:  I've just tried to upgrade to Intrepid and now I don't have my NVidia card working. After I've tried Envy OR the "Hardware Drivers" I get this error... http://pastebin.com/m6d638c3f
[18:34] <unimatrix9> how come ubuntu is slow on 3D ati cards?
[18:34] <gizmo> i need tutorial from here
[18:34] <fustrated> halitech: still here?
[18:34] <pengwyn>  /clear
[18:34] <gizmo> any one can help me...sometime it can detech sometime no
[18:34] <usser> FisherPrice, uninstall the driver from envy and look in synaptic for anything nvidia
[18:34] <Flare183> unimatrix9: Because you have to install the fglx driver  for it
[18:34] <onetinsoldier> unimatrix9: might depend on several things. what ati card do you have?
[18:34] <usser> FisherPrice, uninstall that too
[18:34] <gizmo> my wiress sometime can detech sometime not
[18:34] <Halitech> fustrated, yeah, did you install gnash or flash from the adobe site?
[18:35] <Flare183> !envy | FisherPrice
[18:35] <pengwyn> envy rocks!
[18:35] <fustrated> halitech: I did flash, then I've even undid that and did apt-get nonfree version
[18:35] <unimatrix9> radeon 9250
[18:35]  * Flare183 hates envy
[18:35] <mike22> Flare183: I'm not really sure, but the theme looks nothing like it did before and I would like to revert to how it was originally.
[18:35] <unimatrix9> 128 mb
[18:35] <onetinsoldier> unimatrix9: well, that could very well be one of the reasons, probably is.
[18:35] <FisherPrice> usser: how about i do a "sudo apt-get remove nvidia*
[18:35] <Flare183> !enter | unimatrix9
[18:35] <Halitech> fustrated, not sure then, videos aren't choppy for me but I have no sound
[18:36] <FisherPrice> usser: decided against that
[18:36] <usser> FisherPrice, that may pull some packages that u actually need
[18:36] <Halitech> fustrated, but not a big deal for me as I dont care to go to youtube
[18:36] <zamarax> hello, I'm having issues creating a sym link for a path with a space in it
[18:36] <unimatrix9> !ati
[18:36] <pengwyn> envy got my chromium lit
[18:36] <usser> zamarax, put in the quotes
[18:36] <pengwyn> (no not the browser)
[18:36] <zamarax> in this case /var/lib/vmware/Virtual Machines
[18:36] <fustrated> halitech: I have no sound also for youtube with hdmi through tv, I do have sound with regular onboard plugging speakers to pc.. sounds like sound server is wacked.
[18:36] <usser> zamarax, ln -s "path with spaces"
[18:36] <Flare183> mike22: Can you give me a screen shot of your Appearance dialog box, and upload it to imagebin.ca, then give me the link. Do that and I can help further.
[18:36] <zamarax> thanks, I'll try that
[18:37] <fustrated> halitech: It's not just youtube, I'm giving example by using youtube.
[18:37] <manawyddan> Hi everyone!
[18:37] <usser> zamarax, or escape spaces like that ln -s path\ with\ spaces
[18:37] <hrehf> hmmm, i installed the cup package, which is a program that should also install some java libs - when i try to compile the example code, my java compiler complains about the libraries missing.. what do i do now? how do i find out if the libs got indeed installed?
[18:37] <fustrated> haltech: normal dvds, xvids, ect play fine from harddrive, just streaming or flash videos.
[18:37] <manawyddan> i'm havin a bit of problem to find the config files for GNOME menus
[18:37] <td123> does anyone know if the iPod Touch works with ubuntu out of the box? (christmas present for naive ubuntu users) :P
[18:38] <Halitech> fustrated, might need to reload alsa then
[18:38] <instant> ubuntu-fi
[18:38] <usser> manawyddan, gnome uses a windows like registry to set itself up, try gconf-editor
[18:38] <usser> manawyddan, gnome uses a windows like registry to set itself up, try gconf-editor
[18:38] <usser> manawyddan, sorry
[18:38] <carajean> Hello im kinda new to ubuntu ( been 2 year since i dabbled in linux ) but im having a ruff time with my external hdd. I cant find anywhere on the computer where its detected. Help would be very appreciated
[18:38] <instant> join #ubuntu.fi
[18:38] <usser> td123, last generation ipods dont work
[18:39] <Flare183> carajean: open a terminal and type in df and pastebin the results to me
[18:39] <brohken> hey guys... im trying to figure out how to properly have my backlight go to 10% brightness on battery, and back to 100% on AC. currently that sort of works, but when my display dims on idle it doesnt want to "undim" when I move the mouse again
[18:39] <pengwyn> ONDA will KILL the ipod
[18:39] <brohken> these are my settings: http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5341/screenshotconfigurationki3.png
[18:39] <Flare183> ...
[18:39] <fustrated> halitech: I installed newest alsa to get hdmi working.
[18:39] <fustrated> halitech: also installed newest nvidia drivers
[18:39] <Flare183> !spam | pengwyn
[18:39] <onetinsoldier> carajean: does it show up at all with  fdisk -l  ?
[18:40] <mike22> Flare183: http://imagebin.ca/view/NZJLLq0X.html
[18:40] <FisherPrice> usser: done
[18:40] <FisherPrice> everything nvidia related removed
[18:40] <FisherPrice> even envy
[18:40] <carajean> Flare183 I hoped that went through I sent you a personal message
[18:41] <pengwyn> Flare183, notspam
[18:41] <pengwyn> relevent
[18:41] <usser> FisherPrice, cool now head to nvidia.com, download the driver for your videocard
[18:42] <pengwyn> cheap ass chineese mp4 player with no drm vs ipod bla with nightmare data loss
[18:42] <Flare183> Peng: doubtful
[18:42] <usser> FisherPrice, while its downloading edit the file /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[18:42] <Blinkiz> I have minimal virtual ubuntu 8.10 machine set up here that I want to use as some sort of proxy. Let say you are at work and the only port allowed out is port 80. I now want to set up a ssh tunnel and a default route so everything goes frow my proxy. What should I use to get this working? Do I need to play with NAT? Squid? Or just ssh and some tunneling?
[18:42] <usser> FisherPrice, add nv nvidia_new to DISABLED_MODULES
[18:43] <usser> FisherPrice, like that DISABLED_MODULES="nv nvidia_new"
[18:43] <OsamaK> Hello: "Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 resource temporarily unavailable)" on "sudo apt-get install xx"; How to fix this?
[18:43] <pengwyn> Flare183, I have the viewsonic monitor with the ipod docking station. yet STILL i have no ibop
[18:43] <carajean> btw Flare183 the drive is a 500gig my book
[18:43] <Flare183> carajean: I don't see the external hardrive
[18:44] <carajean> yeah thats the thing its on and glowing but wont show up in linux although 3 hours ago it showed up in windows
[18:44] <Flare183> pengwyn: now that is realvant
[18:44] <FisherPrice> DISABLED_MODULES="nv nvidia_new"
[18:44] <hrehf> hmmm, i installed the cup ubuntu package, which is a program that should also install some java libs - the program runs fine, but when i try to compile the example code it generates, my java compiler complains about the libraries missing.. what do i do now? how do i find out if the libs got indeed installed?
[18:44] <FisherPrice> usser:  it reads : DISABLED_MODULES="nv nvidia_new"
[18:44] <pengwyn> printer
[18:45] <usser> FisherPrice, ok cool
[18:45] <gfather> hello guys
[18:45] <usser> FisherPrice, is it done downloading?
[18:45] <FisherPrice> yep
[18:45] <brohken> hey guys... im trying to figure out how to properly have my backlight go to 10% brightness on battery, and back to 100% on AC. currently that sort of works, but when my display dims on idle it doesnt want to "undim" when I move the mouse again
[18:45] <brohken> these are my settings: http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5341/screenshotconfigurationki3.png
[18:45] <usser> FisherPrice, right do u have another computer u can irc from?
[18:45] <onetinsoldier> OsamaK: hi. after you left the other day, i thought of a command that could have fixed the broken packages problem, sorry about that. also, i learned what it means to have the LiveCD installed to a USB... it's called a 'Live Persistent' install, or something like that. did you get the broken packages problem fixed up?
[18:45] <FisherPrice> no
[18:45] <gfather> any one recomends a book or a video to learn linux ? . like to be more pro in it
[18:45] <FisherPrice> usser: not really
[18:45] <usser> FisherPrice, eh
[18:45] <fustrated> Does anyone know why youtube, flash, streaming videos are so choppy and keeps buffering? I'm not using gnash, and I have normal flash installed.. No help to google, just similar problems with no fixes.
[18:45] <pengwyn> hrehf, what did the log say?
[18:46] <usser> FisherPrice, alright just to make sure
[18:46] <hrehf> pengwyn: what log?
[18:46] <pengwyn> hrehf, what did the log say was missing?
[18:46] <Flare183> carajean: on a terminal type in dmesg | tail
[18:46] <FisherPrice> usser: i could install pidgin on another computer
[18:46] <pengwyn> hrehf, the error exactly,
[18:46] <Flare183> carajean: and pastebin that to me
[18:46] <usser> FisherPrice, its pretty straightforward but just make sure u have that installed sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[18:46] <Flare183> !pastebin | carajean
[18:46] <hrehf> pengwyn: typical java package missing error : parser.java:294: package java_cup.runtime does not exist
[18:46] <usser> FisherPrice, that would be best since next step requires shutting down xorg
[18:47] <Flare183> fustrated: Slow internet
[18:47] <FisherPrice> usser: yeah i have all thost
[18:47] <fustrated> flare183: I have 8mb service but speedtest show I can easily get 20mb
[18:47] <FisherPrice> usser: you're leading me down the install from nvidia path, I've been there before ages ago
[18:47] <usser> FisherPrice, great now you need to switch to virtual terminal ctrl+alt+f1, login, stop gdm sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[18:47] <Sam_M> fustrated I have the same problem
[18:47] <usser> FisherPrice, it never failed me
[18:48] <pengwyn> there ya go.   I bet there were more errors rehf,
[18:48] <fustrated> all these problems is with ubuntu only. Windows everything is fine.
[18:48] <hrehf> pengwyn: and all the usual following errors. i'm wondering, shouldn't the package have installed those libraries into the system java?
[18:48] <FisherPrice> usser: :D
[18:48] <Sam_M> my flash crashed every once in awhile
[18:48] <Flare183> fustrated: Thats messed up
[18:48] <Blinkiz> Sometimes me and my laptop ends up where Internet is restricted to only a few ports. Luckly I have a bunch of a machines at home I can ssh to. I now want to create some kind of tunnel so all traffic is sent to my ubuntu 8.10 server at home and then out on the Internet. Like a proxy. The goal is (I think) to have my default route on my laptop pointed so traffic goes through my home server. What tools should I play with to get this t
[18:48] <Blinkiz> o work?
[18:48] <usser> FisherPrice, once gdm is not running run the nvidia installer sudo ./Nvidia-something-bla
[18:48] <OsamaK> onetinsoldier, Hello, Thank you for what did you do, 15 ones are now understand what does "GNU", "Linux" and "Ubuntu" mean, while they were not. So, I could work well.
[18:48] <usser> FisherPrice, err sudo sh Nvidia-something-bla rather
[18:48] <FisherPrice> usser: ys
[18:48] <Flare183> carajean: Looks like it is mounted on /media/Games Stuff
[18:49] <fustrated> I have newest, flash, nvidida, alsa, ive tried disabling compiz, ive tried other webbrowsers, ive tried kubuntu. I dont know what to do.
[18:49] <Flare183> carajean: I think
[18:49] <pengwyn> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=package+java_cup.runtime+does+not+exist&btnG=Search
[18:49] <FisherPrice> usser: anything funny after the install?
[18:49] <Flare183> btw I don't have that theme
[18:49] <OsamaK> onetinsoldier, and I'm really sorry that I didn't contact you back, I'm bit busy at the moment.
[18:49] <onetinsoldier> OsamaK: i don't quite follow that, but ok
[18:49] <fustrated> flare183: what theme
[18:49] <usser> FisherPrice, no, make sure you have nvidia specified in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:49] <onetinsoldier> OsamaK: ok, don't worry about it
[18:49] <manawyddan_>  i'm havin a bit of a problem to find the config files for GNOME menus
[18:49] <hrehf> pengwyn: http://pastebin.com/da800dbf
[18:49] <manawyddan_>  I'm trying to delete an entry under Locals->markers, does anyone know how can i edit GNOME menus(Applications, Locals and System)?
[18:49] <pengwyn> I bet there's a WORSE err0r
[18:50] <Flare183> fustrated: Talking to someone else
[18:50] <usser> FisherPrice, after the driver is installed you wont have to reboot sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start should do it
[18:50] <fustrated> kk
[18:50] <pengwyn> search the worse eRRoR
[18:50] <carajean> So that wouldnt be just like sitting around on the my computer like area??
[18:50] <FisherPrice> usser: ty, i should be able to take it from here
[18:50] <jerndoe> hey..
[18:50] <Flare183> carajean: Well goto The Places menu, and click Computer
[18:50] <FisherPrice> usser: i'll return in either case
[18:50] <harushimo> for dvd playback, which dvd player is good for ubuntu?
[18:50] <Flare183> carajean: see if it is there
[18:50] <usser> FisherPrice, ok
[18:50] <hrehf> pengwyn: was that directed at me? did you ever compile java?
[18:50] <jerndoe> is there any maximum size for a hard disk in ubuntu?
[18:51] <brohken> hey guys... im trying to figure out how to properly have my backlight go to 10% brightness on battery, and back to 100% on AC. currently that sort of works, but when my display dims on idle it doesnt want to "undim" when I move the mouse again
[18:51] <brohken> these are my settings: http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5341/screenshotconfigurationki3.png
[18:51] <usser> harushimo, vlc
[18:51] <fustrated> I'm thinking about formatting after all the work getting this working after having linux a week, just to see what it does from normal install.
[18:51] <fustrated> that would blow tho
[18:51] <nathan__> is there any way to switch over to kubuntu from ubuntu?
[18:51] <jerndoe> i mean size
[18:51] <pengwyn> hrehf, CVS?
[18:51] <Flare183> !cvs | pengwyn
[18:51] <fustrated> nathan__: logg out and under options pick kubuntu.. YOu have to download it first though
[18:51] <Flare183> nathan__: yeap
[18:51] <Flare183> !kubuntu | nathan__
[18:51] <Flare183> I used Kubuntu for like 2 years
[18:52] <brohken> ugh this is so frustrating
[18:52] <harushimo> does the cube for compiz work for dual monitor
[18:52] <fustrated> hates kubuntu interface dunno why
[18:52] <mroc> garmin has a plugin that is activex...any way to get this working in linux?
[18:52] <fustrated> too windowsy
[18:52] <carajean> Flare183 nope not there at all. I got game install which is a 150 gig raptor new volume which is a empty 200 and file system.
[18:52] <hrehf> pengwyn: what? :( there's actually other erros in the main class, but the package won't magically appear when i fix those
[18:53] <nathan__> Flare183, is there a command i can type into the terminal to make the switch?
[18:53] <hspaans> mrox: short answer is no, long answer is maybe with windows in virtualbox
[18:53] <kelly_> hi, f-spot won't import any of my photos either directly from my camera, or from a local copy on the hard drive.
[18:53] <kelly_> it says "no object reference" or something like that.
[18:53] <pengwyn> hrehf, I always try to grep the WORST err0r and then fix that.
[18:53] <kelly_> nautilus has no problem showing the pictures.
[18:53] <pengwyn> just the way I do shit
[18:53] <wicker> I'm using nautilus, and in the preferences i set some mount options on a removable drive (an ipod) and they were bad options, now it won't mount, but it only shows me mount options when the thing is mounted.. how can i get back to where i started
[18:53] <jussi01> !ohmy | pengwyn
[18:54] <hrehf> pengwyn: so, do you have any idea regarding the package / libraries issue?
[18:54] <mroc> hspaans: ok.  i saw something about konqueror and maybe getting activex supoport from several years ago.  i guess nothing came of it?  how about ie or ff under wine?
[18:54] <fustrated> nathan__: not that I know of.. logg out, relogg back in
[18:54] <ardchoille> kelly_: I use gthumb to import photos from my digital camera
[18:54] <abhishek> my gdm setup refuses to select a theme other than human(default). what do i do?
[18:54] <pengwyn> hrehf yeah there could be errors.
[18:54] <axisys> what is a good backup tool to backup my laptop over the network?
[18:54] <kelly_> ardchoille, will it dump them into f-spot's directories and database?
[18:54] <jussi01> !backup | axisys
[18:54] <ardchoille> kelly_: no idea, I uninstalled f-spot
[18:54] <axisys> sbackup ? or should I explore amanda ?
[18:54] <kelly_> i want the meta-data features of f-spot.
[18:55] <pengwyn> one error bringing the whole thing down
[18:55] <nathan__> fustrated, why do i want to log out?
[18:55] <hspaans> mroc: activex and no windows is a no go area
[18:55] <Flare183> nathan__: no there isn't
[18:55] <pengwyn> use intuition
[18:55] <axisys> jussi01: i saw them.. not so good .. except i saw sbackup in ther
[18:55] <axisys> there
[18:55] <fustrated> nathan__: didn't you say you wanted to switch to kubuntu?
[18:55] <mroc> hspaans: ok.  figured as much from what i saw.  thanks for the info.
[18:55] <ardchoille> abhishek: are you clicking the radio button next to the gdm theme in the list, or are you just hilighting the theme? you have to click the radio button next to your selection
[18:55] <nathan__> Flare183, so i would have to burn an iso onto a disk to get it?
[18:56] <onetinsoldier> axisys: you could take a look at Ghost Unix.  -->  http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/
[18:56] <Syahril> rm directory command?
[18:56] <nathan__> fustrated,  yes
[18:56] <pengwyn> I gotta get outta this channel before they ban me for typing words.  (morals and religon be damned) words - look up Frank Zappa on Archive.org
[18:56] <byteme__> lol
[18:56] <pengwyn> peace!  and relax your emergency isn't mine
[18:56] <fustrated> nathan__: are you wanting to use kubuntu all the time? I mean you could just install kubuntu along with gnome and choose between both if you want.
[18:56] <byteme__> dont eat yelow snow
[18:57] <Flare183> nathan__: no just install kubuntu-desktop
[18:57] <fustrated> natha__: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[18:57] <Flare183> !lol | byteme__
[18:57] <fustrated> nathan__: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[18:57] <axisys> onetinsoldier: i saw it before.. a while ago.. but forgot about it.. thnx
[18:57] <carajean> sorry flash183 I crashed hard and did not catch whether or not you responded
[18:57] <onetinsoldier> axisys: you're welcome :-)
[18:58] <sinbox> !clone > sinbox
[18:58] <nathan__> fustrated, one other question if i wanted to upgrade to 8.10 instead of 8.04 how would i do that
[18:58] <hrehf> pengwyn: lol. do you actually write what i say? did you EVER compile java? your comments only waste more of my time, it seems
[18:58] <hrehf> write = read :)
[18:59] <axisys> actually i dont like g4u for what I want.. i want to have a background backup every weekday as soon as I dock my laptop at work..
[18:59] <Jack_Sparrow> nathan__, You must follow each upgrade, dont skip//
[18:59] <onetinsoldier> nathan__: 'instead'? what are you currently running?
[18:59] <axisys> rsync might be the way.. but still looking for other suggestions..
[18:59] <nathan__> oneseventeen|afk, 8.04 ubuntu
[18:59] <axisys> it is to backup data.. not OS
[18:59] <carajean> Flare183 if I cant see it anywhere even in media where do i go from there?
[18:59] <axisys> i shd have mentioned earlier
[19:00] <Jeruvy> axisys: rsync is a very reliable means to backup, but it's not a 'forget' solution.
[19:00] <tremby> is there a way to find out what motherboard i have, and how many memory modules/how many free slots i have, from the command line?
[19:00] <tonsofpc1> hmmm... is there any way I can simply set a solid colored background? [gnome on 8.10 Intrepid Ibex] I see color settings but they don't do anything as an image is selected...
[19:00] <onetinsoldier> nathan__: ok, i missed what it is you were originally think of upgrading to then. what would that have been?
[19:00] <musikgoat|main> axisys: unison is a gtk front end that uses rsync and works well for synchronizing files to multiple places
[19:01] <onetinsoldier> !upgrade
[19:01] <nathan__> oneseventeen|afk,  i want to upgrade from ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10
[19:02] <nbeebo> anyway to enter ext3 ubuntu harddrive from windows ntfs?
[19:02] <FisherPrice> usser: I tried to run the installer and it said that i didn't have the headers installed
[19:02] <akahige1> ever since I upgraded to intrepid, my video performance is hosed. any chance this could be a kernel problem and NOT xorg?
[19:02] <onetinsoldier> nathan__: ok, you might take a look at this --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades
[19:02] <tonsofpc1> nbeebo: what do you mean?
[19:02] <Jack_Sparrow> nbeebo, ext2fs
[19:02] <axisys> musikgoat|main: oh yeah.. union .. let me take a look
[19:02] <tremby> nbeebo: yes, google ext2fs
[19:02] <musikgoat|main> axisys: unison
[19:02] <tonsofpc1> akahige1: did you disable visual effects?
[19:02] <FisherPrice> usser: my mind must be use to all this good help
[19:02] <sonne> Have anybody tried to install Adobe Acrobat Pro with wine?
[19:02] <nbeebo> tremby, jack_Sparrow, tonsofpc1... thanks
[19:02] <akahige1> tonsofpc1: not running visual effects
[19:03] <Jack_Sparrow> sonne, ask in #winehq
[19:03] <brohken> hey guys... im trying to figure out how to properly have my backlight go to 10% brightness on battery, and back to 100% on AC. currently that sort of works, but when my display dims on idle it doesnt want to "undim" when I move the mouse again
[19:03] <brohken> these are my settings: http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5341/screenshotconfigurationki3.png
[19:03] <christmaself> i have a problem with my jokebot, does someone know how to help
[19:03] <tonsofpc1> sonne - http://appdb.winehq.org/
[19:03] <FisherPrice> usser: kernal header file does not exist
[19:03] <lwizardl> hi
[19:03] <sonne> tonsofpc1: I have seen this page. Not enough information
[19:03] <Jack_Sparrow> christmaself,  This is the ubuntu support channel..  that would be offtopic.. thanks
[19:03] <usser> FisherPrice, sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[19:04] <christmaself> well you can access the jokes with ubuntu
[19:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > christmaself
[19:04] <christmaself> yea yea yea
[19:04] <axisys> i wish linux had zfs already.. i could take advantage of timeslider
[19:04] <FisherPrice> usser: yeah did that and everything is installed according to that
[19:04] <christmaself> you are only in ubuntu because you dont know any c
[19:04] <christmaself> !
[19:05] <usser> FisherPrice, are u sure?
[19:05] <axisys> that would be a really good backup solution for home user
[19:05] <musikgoat|main> ?
[19:05] <axisys> musikgoat|main: was that for me?
[19:05] <FisherPrice> usser: yup... it says that kernal.h doesn't exist
[19:05] <FisherPrice> that is the nvidia installer
[19:06] <bashca> what  usermod  -G10 user1  mean  ??? and  how return to default  please ??
[19:06] <lwizardl> anyone know much about multiple monitor displays?
[19:06] <musikgoat|main> oh sorry, no, just confused by christmaself's response
[19:06] <musikgoat|main> axisys: ^^
[19:06] <usser> FisherPrice, strange, do sudo apt-get install dkms
[19:06] <axisys> musikgoat|main: heh.. np
[19:06] <jadedoto> FisherPrice: What kernel are you using?
[19:06] <akahige1> tonsofpc1: any thoughts?
[19:07] <hurleyy> it possible creater server stream mms:// in ubuntu?
[19:07] <FisherPrice> jadedoto: newest intrepid
[19:07] <FisherPrice> usser: done... already newest version
[19:07] <FisherPrice> jade 2.6.25-2-386
[19:07] <usser> FisherPrice, well thats weird can u pastebin the results of uname -a and dpkg -l | grep linux-headers
[19:07] <tonsofpc1> akahige1: specs?
[19:07] <FisherPrice> jadedoto:  2.6.25-2-386
[19:07] <bashca> !usermod
[19:08] <jadedoto> FisherPrice: Intrepid is using 2.5.27.x
[19:08] <usser> FisherPrice, thats not intrepid kernel
[19:08] <FisherPrice> hrm
[19:08] <FisherPrice> that might be a problem eh
[19:08] <usser> FisherPrice, yep
[19:08] <bashca> what  usermod  -G10 user1  mean  ??? and  how return to default  please ??
[19:08] <boanerges> slt
[19:08] <akahige1> tonsofpc1: dual core athlon, 2gb mem, nvidia graphics.  no problem at all under hardy
[19:08] <FisherPrice> kk how do i fix that?
[19:08] <usser> FisherPrice, open synaptic make sure u have 2.6.27 installed then reboot into that one
[19:09] <jadedoto> FisherPrice: The kernel headers were moved around, because the nvidia installer works fine on 2.6.27.x but not on 2.6.28.x yet... probably the same problem you're having
[19:09] <tonsofpc1> akahige1: are/were you running the nvidia drivers? same version? how did you 'upgrae' ?
[19:09] <hurleyy> any help????
[19:09] <hurleyy> it possible creater server  stream for wmv3?
[19:09] <jordo2323> I have a fat32 drive mounted upon boot in /etc/fstab but I can't seem to write to it (i.e. create a new folder etc). I have already tried to chmod the mount point but it doesn't help...any ideas?
[19:09] <jordo2323> The drive mounts just fine each boot too
[19:10] <FisherPrice> usser: jadedoto... OK, I'll restart X then do all that
[19:10] <musikgoat|main> jordo2323: does it mount read only? check with the mount command
[19:10] <FisherPrice> bbs
[19:10] <akahige1> tonsofpc1: running nvidia drivers, but same symptoms/prob. running live cd w. open source drivers. ran the nvidia drivers under hardy w. no prob. upgraded via update mgr
[19:10] <bashca> what  usermod  -G10 user1  mean  ??? and  how return to default  please ??
[19:11] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, not sure....if I right click on the drives properties it won't let me see the permissions information....
[19:11] <bashca> what  usermod  -G10 user1  mean  ??? and  how return to default  please ??
[19:11] <musikgoat|main> jordo2323: in the command line, type mount, then pastebin that
[19:11] <tesseracter> im trying to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.10 on an AMD64. what is my best bet for a low bandwidth connection(i can go to a cafe to dl what i need) thanks in advance!
[19:12] <musikgoat|main> jordo2323: you know pastebin?
[19:12] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, yeah
[19:12] <musikgoat|main> k
[19:12] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, one sec
[19:12] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m4c09087c
[19:13] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, line 12?
[19:13] <abhishek> my gdm setup refuses to use a theme besides human. now that i deleted human it still refuses.
[19:13] <abhishek> help!
[19:13] <musikgoat|main> jordo2323: yah,  just a sec
[19:13] <FisherPrice> usser: if this works should i revert that file content to remove the "nv nvidia_new" back and use the intrepid packages instead
[19:13] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, thanks
[19:14] <abhishek> ?
[19:15] <harleypig> I update my 7.10 installation of ubuntu and my broadcom wireless card stopped working
[19:15] <bashca> what  usermod  -G10 user1  mean  ??? and  how return to default  please ??
[19:15] <abhishek> how do i change my gdm theme?
[19:15] <alphaakenny1> is it a broadcom4306 card
[19:16] <joaopinto> bashca, man usermod
[19:16] <harleypig> I'm told that a new version of the kernel has drivers for bcm43xx in it ... could this be incompatible with  ... yes, it's a bcm4306
[19:16] <tonsofpc1> akahige1: old kernel ver [to the letter]?  new?
[19:16] <alphaakenny1> abhishek go to system-->administration-->login window
[19:16] <musikgoat|main> jordo2323: you could add umask=077 option
[19:16] <alphaakenny1> did you install it using a ndiswrapper
[19:16] <bashca> joaopinto,  i did but stile need  help
[19:16] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, where in the line though in fstab?
[19:16] <musikgoat|main> jordo2323: but i dont know if that will help,  you cannot chmod a fat32 drive
[19:17] <joaopinto> bashca, you should not have executed the command if you can't read it's manpage..
[19:17] <bashca> joaopinto, i need to return to my default group
[19:17] <musikgoat|main> /dev/device /media/mountpoint  filesystem  options  0 0
[19:17] <musikgoat|main> jordo2323: ^^\
[19:17] <adityag> i want to play *.avi files, but i see scrambled video when i open it in movie player or MPlayer, do i need to install any additional codec for it ???
[19:17] <joaopinto> bashca, -G groupname
[19:17] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, do I take out "defaults" if that is in there?
[19:17] <joaopinto> bashca, that is not the default group, -G is for additional groups
[19:17] <musikgoat|main> jordo2323: no, defaults,umask=077
 my gdm setup refuses to use a theme other than human!! L-s
[19:18] <FisherPrice> jadedoto: good pick up on my kernal version
[19:18] <jadedoto> FisherPrice: did it work?
[19:18] <FisherPrice> just working on it now
[19:18] <bashca> hmm
[19:18] <musikgoat|main> jordo2323: then save,  in terminal,  umount /dev/sdb1; mount /dev/sdb1
[19:18] <alphaakenny1> are you administrator
[19:18] <akahige1> tonsofpc1: I think the old kernel was 2.6.24-22-generic, but intrepid deleted a bunch of the old kernels on install. running new kernel 2.6.27-9-generic
[19:18] <bashca> ok thanks
[19:19] <tesseracter> im trying to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.10 on an AMD64. what is my best bet for a low bandwidth connection(i can go to a cafe to dl what i need) thanks in advance!
[19:19] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, now I can't view it at all
[19:20] <musikgoat|main> jordo2323: then remove ;-)
[19:20] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, already did, any other ideas?
[19:21] <musikgoat|main> what are the permissions for /media/MEDIA
[19:21] <tonsofpc1> akahige1: you sure it was -generic and not -rt or -lowlatency or one of those?
[19:21] <n8tuser> tesseracter-> before you upgrade, are you sure? can yo try perhaps using another partition just for 8.10 and reuse same /home on it from the old 7.10 ?
[19:21] <akahige1> tonsofpc1: I've only ever run the generics
[19:21] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 16384 1969-12-31 18:00 MEDIA
[19:21] <n8tuser> tesseracter-> you may find that 8.10 has issues and there are no way to drop back
[19:22] <tonsofpc1> akahige1: i suppose its possible that it's a kernel difference then
[19:22] <grizlo42> hi
[19:22] <tonsofpc1> are there any major differences in your x configs?
[19:22] <naftilos76> Hi everybody and merry christmas! I've got an old laptop with a 15" tft having 1400x1050 as its' native resolution. The most i can get out of it is 1152x864! I tried to edit the ~/.config/monitors.xml but no luck...Shall i go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf? Any other ideas?
[19:22] <CaptWho> is there a sysinstall prog that i can run from the shell?
[19:22] <grizlo42> i just got a 530N from Dell with 24 inch HD monitor, but it doesn't seem like its hd........
[19:22] <musikgoat|main> jordo2323: hmm, so only root can write,  test with sudo touch /media/MEDIA/testfile
[19:23] <adityag> ﻿i want to play *.avi files, but i see scrambled video when i open it in movie player or MPlayer, do i need to install any additional codec for it ???
[19:23] <akahige1> tonsofpc1: I filed a bug against xorg (since it drives the cpu load over 75% when I'm doing anything), but it's marked undecided.  was reading on /. that the new kernel has a bunch of video optimization stuff in it, and had the thought that perhaps xorg isn't at fault here. was hoping to get a more informed opinion on that...  :)
[19:23] <alphaakenny1> adityag-->gstreamer
[19:24] <qbmaniac_work1> hey guys
[19:24] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, yeah....it wrote it
[19:24] <qbmaniac_work1> if I overwrite the MBR installing windows on another partition
[19:24] <musikgoat|main> jordo2323: i would unmount (if needed), change ownership of the mount point (sudo chown user:group /media/MEDIA) to your user and group, then remount
[19:24] <alphaakenny1> adityag-->get the bad, ugly, ffmpeg and the multiverse versions of the bad and ugly
[19:24] <qbmaniac_work1> how can I re-install the partition/OS manager that ubuntu had?
[19:25] <grizlo42> anyone get a dell inpiron 530N with linux who can give me some advice?
[19:25] <CaptWho> or, what is the software update program that can be run from shell?
[19:25] <malv> is there a way to fetch a src deb?
[19:25] <malv> automagically?
[19:26] <Black_Orchid> 	
[19:26] <Black_Orchid> hey guys all right?
[19:26] <Black_Orchid> I am Brazilian
[19:26] <Black_Orchid> first time I here ..
[19:26] <Black_Orchid> If agluem is related to talk ^ ^
[19:26] <Black_Orchid> (I have to improve my English)
[19:26] <FloodBot1> Black_Orchid: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:26] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, now I have locks over the Gnome icons, and still cannot write...
[19:26] <qbmaniac_work1> If I overwrote the MBR/OS Selection screen when I installed windows on another partition how can I re-install the partition/OS manager that ubuntu had?
[19:26] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, my groups should be username:username right?
[19:26] <moijk> Black_Orchid: if you send the good weather to us in north, you are allowed to talk :P
[19:26] <musikgoat|main> jordo2323: commonly, yes
[19:27] <allsystemsarego> !grub | qbmaniac_work1
[19:27] <qbmaniac_work1> thanks mate!!!
[19:27] <grizlo42> if i have a quad is it worth going to 64, or should i stick to 32?
[19:27] <qbmaniac_work1> thanks mate!
[19:27] <moijk> jordo2323: users in group are sperated with commas (ref man group)
[19:27] <naftilos76>  Black_Orchid: Don't forget a brazilian girl along with the weather!
[19:27] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, yeah....the locks in gnome didn't do much, but they are visible now, still can't see gui permissions as well
[19:27] <musikgoat|main> jordo2323: hmm, and permissions are what now?
[19:28] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 16384 1969-12-31 18:00 MEDIA
[19:28] <naftilos76> Hi everybody and merry christmas! I've got an old laptop with a 15" tft having 1400x1050 as its' native resolution. The most i can get out of it is 1152x864! I tried to edit the ~/.config/monitors.xml but no luck...Shall i go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf? Any other ideas?
[19:29] <Cakarakoo> Hi All
[19:29] <Cakarakoo> I need a recommendation for a IDE to start programming in Ubunutu; Anjunta? QBlocks? which one is the best? thanks
[19:29] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, I think the locks in Gnome cached for a bit from the unmount maybe, they are gone now...
 what language are you gonna use?
[19:30] <FisherPrice> jadedoto: during my recent upgrade to intrepid my computer shutdown because of overheating... so the full upgrade didn't proceed as planned. is there anything i should do
[19:30] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, still can't write though
[19:30] <FisherPrice> jadedoto: like this kernal issue
[19:30] <jadedoto> FisherPrice: Usually I just go back and just continue the upgrade
[19:30] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, your touch command before worked though....that file wrote...
[19:30] <musikgoat|main> yes, because only the owner can write, and its still owned by root...  must be the mounting,  i don't know if the user option works for vfat, but that is used when mounting smb and other filetypes.
[19:30] <Cakarakoo> naftilos76, C/C++ I have been using VIsual C + MFC in Win for 8 years
[19:31] <FisherPrice> jadedoto: as in back into the "updatemangager -d"
[19:31] <musikgoat|main> so change fstab to defaults,user
[19:31] <jadedoto> FisherPrice: Last time my laptop overheating compiling a kernel, I stuck it in the fridge =D
[19:31] <FisherPrice> lol
[19:31] <grizlo42> wow irc should be split into different channels for different things, so that people can actually help everyone
[19:31] <musikgoat|main> jordo2323: do you add sudo before mounting?
[19:31] <jadedoto> FisherPrice: The -d switch will put you up with Jaunty devel, so don't do the -d.
[19:31] <FisherPrice> kk
[19:32] <n8tuser> Cakarakoo-> eclipse  with the c++ plugins
 Anjuta is ok, consider also netbeans! it's in the repos!
[19:32] <Lexvegas> does anyone know why libdvdcss stops un-scrambeling  halfway through a movie?
[19:32] <FisherPrice> jadedoto: usser well, im booting up with the 27 kernal
[19:32] <jadedoto> FisherPrice: Unless you want jaunty-devel.... but I couldn't get the nvidia drivers to work at all, the *.28 kernel completely redid the video system....
[19:33] <jadedoto> FisherPrice: nvidia drivers should work with *.27
[19:33] <Cakarakoo> naftilos76, ok, so I am not going to waste more time trying IDEs, just go with ANjunta
[19:33] <FisherPrice> kk
[19:33] <FisherPrice> ty
[19:33] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, yeah
 yes try it! i've been using Borland C++ Builder 6 in XP...
[19:34] <saler> :13:
[19:34] <musikgoat|main> jordo2323: try just mount /dev/sdb1
[19:34] <pygi> anyone knows what exactly is broken with mysql server in intrepid?
[19:34] <musikgoat|main> grizlo42: some times you have to ask twice
[19:34] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, unmount that that command or with sudo?
[19:34] <pygi> it says cant connect to socket
[19:34] <pygi> and the socket is there
[19:34] <pygi> it works after reinstall
[19:34] <Cakarakoo> naftilos76, ok thanks
[19:34] <pygi> but I need it working on first install!
[19:34] <musikgoat|main> jordo, sudo umount ...  then just mount ...
 nothing is broken....what is the problem?
[19:35] <pygi> naftilos76, it seems that people's experience on the web, including me say differently :P
[19:35] <billybigrigger> how do i force acpi on boot?
[19:35] <pygi> naftilos76, read above, it cant connect to a socket
[19:35] <pygi> socket is there, permissions are good
[19:35] <pygi> it works when I reinstall the package(s)
[19:35] <billybigrigger> im having problems with overheating and not sure that acpi is turning my fan on full blast
[19:35] <cmv583> help
[19:35] <grizlo42> ok, does anyone know if its worth going to 64 bit on my Inspiron 530N with Core 2 Quad, 3GB mem, and a 24 HD monitor?
[19:35] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, same thing
[19:35] <grizlo42> oh and soon a ati ratheon card
[19:36] <Abstract_Freedom> lol
[19:36] <grizlo42> will everything still work
[19:36] <musikgoat|main> grizlo42: 64bit operating systems run more efficient on a processor that supports it better than 32 bit... but there used to be a lot of quirks with drivers, those have subsided for the most part in linux, i've been running 64 for two releases perfectly now
[19:36] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, wouldn't let me just mount without sudo though
[19:36] <jadedoto> grizlo42: If you ever plan on upping your RAM...
[19:36] <musikgoat|main> grizlo42: i don't know about the ati though
[19:37] <Onyx> http://english.sina.com/life/p/2008/1221/206421.html
[19:38] <n8tuser> jordo2323-> try running gconf-editor  then drill down to   /system/storage/default_options/vfat/mount_options  and try to remove the  usefree  dont know if that will do it
[19:38] <musikgoat|main> jordo2323: hmm, odd...  i'm out of ideas
[19:39] <jordo2323> musikgoat|main, thanks for the try though...it's weird, I was able to add folders the other day....but I only recently added the drive to fstab....so maybe there's something in there...
[19:39] <wedge_> Merry christmas
[19:39] <wedge_> XD
[19:39] <Mal3ko> how do we redirect terminal output to both screen and file?
[19:39] <musikgoat|main> n8tuser: thanks, i'm missing the problem, cannot mount as a user, sudo mounts work but then only root can write
[19:39] <grizlo42> how can i tell if a ATI Radeon 3650PE1G will work with 64 bit?
[19:39] <wedge_> Qualcuno parla italiano?
[19:40]  * wedge_ oooooooooo
[19:40] <Pici> !it | wedge_
[19:40] <Ryou> hi where can i get help with my wireless card in ubuntu? i got it working but then i updated the kernel and it won't connect, even though it still scans properly
[19:40] <wedge_> Where can i see servers?
[19:41] <n8tuser> musikgoat|main-> i dont know if my suggestion will work, maybe he needs to look at fuse
[19:41] <allsystemsarego> Mal3ko, tee
[19:41] <C0p3rn1c> Ryou: did you search the ubuntu forum ?
[19:41] <grizlo42> is there a list somewhere of what drivers work with 64?
[19:41] <Ryou> yes and there are many threads about it but none seem to be helping...
[19:41] <grizlo42> because i want to know if a ATI Radeon 3650PE1G will work with 64 bit?
[19:41] <bingungaja> hello, i need some help. how can i change my fonts color in some web filling form, caused for some web, i even can
[19:41] <bingungaja> hello, i need some help. how can i change my fonts color in some web filling form, caused for some web, i even can't see what i type
[19:42] <viandante> buonasera
[19:42] <Mal3ko> allsystemsarego: yep. but i can't seem to get it to work with Screen
[19:42] <viandante> sono nuovo aiuto!!
[19:42] <C0p3rn1c> Ryou: then you are here on the right address, just ask your question(be specific), and hope that someone knows the awnser
[19:42] <viandante> ho 5 gg di vita i
[19:42] <allsystemsarego> Mal3ko, try "script" then
[19:42] <Org-Mode> wedge_: http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml
[19:42] <allsystemsarego> !it | viandante
[19:43] <viandante> grazie
[19:43] <Ryou> my bcm4306 card won't connect, it's using the b43 driver, and it scans properly, but it wont connect... dmesg shows "wlan0: AP denied association (code=12)"
[19:44] <grizlo42> how can i tell if a ATI Radeon 3650PE1G will work with 64 bit?
[19:44] <rasdelo> hello!
[19:44] <phnom> Need help with my ralink wireless card (eeebox)
[19:44] <musikgoat|main> jordo2323: is this a removable device?
[19:44] <rasdelo> nie odblokujecie mnie na pl to będę tu spamował!
[19:44] <Flare183> !hcl | grizlo42 (This might help)
[19:44] <FisherPrice> jadedoto: i can't find the hardware manager in my systems menu.... what's the command line?
[19:44] <Pici> !pl | rasdelo
[19:44] <phnom> Tried installing the drivers but it won't work, the module loads fine thhough...
[19:44] <Flare183> !english | rasdelo
[19:44] <Flare183> oops
[19:44] <musikgoat|main> jordo2323: if so, and you comment out the fstab line, what happens when you disconnect and reconnect it (assuming its been umounted)
[19:44] <FisherPrice> !hardwaremangager
[19:45] <FisherPrice> !hardwaremanager
[19:45] <Flare183> !hcl | FisherPrice
[19:46] <C0p3rn1c> grizlo42: !ati
[19:46] <grizlo42> thank you
[19:46] <CaptWho> a bunch of files were deleted from my ubuntu box.  is there any way that i can do an internet re-install of ubuntu to the latest dist via ftp?
[19:46] <Flare183> !ati | grizlo42
[19:47] <CaptWho> or can someone give me a link that i can go to to find out how?
[19:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !install
[19:48] <n8tuser> CaptWho-> like what bunch of files you deleted?
[19:48] <harushimo> I'm having problems playing my dvds
[19:48] <Jack_Sparrow> CaptWho, see how much is still in /var/cache/apt/archives
[19:48] <harushimo> they are coming out choppy
[19:49] <Jack_Sparrow> harushimo, Turn of effects
[19:49] <Jack_Sparrow> off
[19:49] <FisherPrice> Flare183: my "Hardware Drivers" is not available in the System>Admin
[19:49] <FisherPrice> Flare183: any suggestions
[19:49] <harushimo> what effects? these extra effects
[19:50] <FisherPrice> Flare183: and i should have it installed
[19:50] <Jack_Sparrow> harushimo, Yes, turn off all effects and see if it still tears/ jitters
[19:50] <C0p3rn1c> I'm having problem with my session, every time alot of programs are being started the next time I boot,  even if I don't enable save session on next boot
[19:50] <harushimo> how do I get the menu? my mind is a little blank
[19:50] <Pici> !nickspam > t717
[19:50] <Flare183> FisherPrice: ...
[19:51] <Jack_Sparrow> harushimo, right click desktop go to wallpaper and far right tab is effects
[19:51] <usser> FisherPrice, didnt work out?
[19:51] <harushimo> I got it
[19:51] <C0p3rn1c> harushimo: on the taskbar/panel ? right click add to panel
[19:51] <Flare183> FisherPrice: right-click the system menu, and click Edit Menus
[19:51] <CaptWho> n8user, most of gnome was deleted, i can only boot to shell
[19:51] <FisherPrice> usser: I'm just trying to install the drivers using the "Hardware Drivers" but it's not in my menu structure
[19:52] <scientes> what is a rose0 device? i suddnly have 10 of them?
[19:52] <FisherPrice> Flare183: yah
[19:52] <usser> FisherPrice, if you're gonna do that dont forget to enable nvidia-new and nv in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[19:53] <Flare183> and find the "Hardware Drivers" Entry on the system menu/submenu
[19:53] <FisherPrice> usser: i'll do that now.. but i just need to find the "Hardware Drivers"
[19:53] <FisherPrice> Flare183: it's not there
[19:53] <Flare183> FisherPrice: I was talking to you
[19:53] <Flare183> ...
[19:53] <Flare183> ??
[19:54] <Flare183> hold on
[19:54] <FisherPrice> do you know the cli command
[19:54] <Jack_Sparrow> FisherPrice, what does lsb_release in a term show you as your release info
[19:54] <FisherPrice> I can add it
[19:54] <Jack_Sparrow> FisherPrice, what does lsb_release -a
[19:54] <Flare183> ahh I see
[19:54] <Flare183> FisherPrice: do you have jockey-gtk installed?
[19:55] <FisherPrice> I'm working on intrepid
[19:55] <FisherPrice> Jack_Sparrow: 8.10
[19:55] <FisherPrice> intrepid
[19:55] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[19:56] <Pici> FisherPrice: Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[19:56] <n8tuser> CaptWho -> maybe use of tasksel will reload the missing packages, i cant however remember the names like  ubuntu-desktop perhaps?
[19:57] <FisherPrice> Pici: well I installed kubuntu, but I'm working in Gnome
[19:57] <ardchoille> Why does Ubuntu use tasksel to install apache when you can install apache manually without tasksel?
[19:57] <FisherPrice> atm
[19:57] <Pici> FisherPrice: Okay.
[19:57] <FisherPrice> kde crashes on me...  but that's another problem to fix
[19:58] <FisherPrice> it didn't, now it does.
[19:58] <Pici> ardchoille: You mean during the Server and Minimal installs?
[19:58] <FisherPrice> :S
[19:58] <FisherPrice> Flare183: can you find out for the the cli command for "hardware drivers" in you menus please
[19:59] <FisherPrice> you=your
[19:59] <Flare183> FisherPrice: I just have it to you
[19:59] <Flare183> FisherPrice: its called jockey-gtk
[19:59] <FisherPrice> Flare183: is that for intrepid or jockey?
[19:59] <anarchotopian> linux noob here, irc noob 2...i sux...first ubuntu xperience...need help finding and installing a p2p fileshare that rivals slsk?
[20:00] <Pici> FisherPrice: jockey-gtk is the name of the hardware drivers tool. Its not release specific.
[20:00] <ubuntu> oi
[20:00] <LinuxLover4> I need help configuring samba, I cannot for the life of me access my shares from vista. It is very frustrating. I have SWAT setup.
[20:00] <ardchoille> Pici: No, I mean the way they have you install it on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP . I'm just curious why they added tasksel when apt-get/aptitude/synaptic can do the same thing
[20:00] <ubuntu> ola
[20:01] <tech08> Is it better to install adobe flash from site even though it says 8.04+ or download the nonfree version
[20:01] <LinuxLover4> I am running ubuntu server 8.10
[20:01] <FisherPrice> Flare183: lol
[20:01] <FisherPrice> Flare183: it looked like the next release of ubuntu
[20:01] <tech08> anyone?
[20:01] <Jampiter> Hi
[20:02] <xmasaimee> h
[20:02] <Jampiter> Are there any tools available for ubuntu for fixing a stuck pixel?
[20:02] <hspaans> stuck pixel?
[20:02] <Pici> ardchoille: You can do it either way. tasksel just makes it easier because you only need to specify one argument to install a whole bunch of packages.
[20:02] <C0p3rn1c> is there any way to fix the slow fullscreen youtube performance ?
[20:03] <Jampiter> hspaans: A pixel on an LCD monitor which is stuck on a certain colour, in this case magenta
[20:03] <tech08> Is it better to install adobe flash from site even though it says 8.04+ or download the nonfree version
[20:03] <ardchoille> Pici: Ah, ok, sounds like they made it a bit easier to deal with (kinda like metapackages)
[20:03] <Lexvegas> Does anyone know why libdvdcss would stop playing a dvd  halfway through?
[20:03] <anarchotopian> oi the room, how can i get to a room for absolute noobs?
[20:03] <ardchoille> anarchotopian: you're in it
[20:03] <FisherPrice> Pici: lol, like i said to Flare183 it looks distro related
[20:03] <Pici> ardchoille: exactly.
[20:03] <C0p3rn1c> I've got a 2ghz dual core 64 pc and still my fullscreen flash performance is bad
[20:03] <tech08> can no one help me on what flash to get?
[20:03] <anarchotopian> crap, i still feel stupid lol
[20:03] <Pici> FisherPrice: Jaunty is Intrepid+1 ;)
[20:04] <Flare183> lol Pici yeap
[20:04] <Flare183> anarchotopian: #ubuntuforums-beginners
[20:04] <ardchoille> Lexvegas: I was told that some dvd's have a system that tells a regular dvd player to skip certain intentionally corrupted areas of the disk to thwart certain dvd players
[20:04] <anarchotopian> hate forums, but i'll try it
[20:05] <LinuxLover4> I need help configuring samba, I cannot for the life of me access my shares from vista. It is very frustrating. I have SWAT setup. I am running ubuntu server 8.10
[20:05] <TwoD> Hey guys! I'm currently "visiting" my Ubuntu PC from 700km away via SSH (Putty), and I'm looking for something fun to try/test (while not being tempted or even able to simply do it directly on that PC). Suggestions?
[20:05] <tech08> flare183: what is the best way to install flash? From adobe or the nonfree version.. I want the one that has least bugs
[20:05] <Mal3ko> allsystemsarego: this is wht i have in script: screen -S test echo hello world | tee -ai screen.txt
[20:05] <C0p3rn1c> tech08: even on intrepid it's very slow, I couldnt install the hardware drivers of my geforce 6200 though, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1006352
[20:05] <Jampiter> Anyone?
[20:05] <Lexvegas> ardchoille, do you think that might affect older dvd players?
[20:05] <joaopinto> tech08, you can enable the partner repository on your software sources and install the adobe version
[20:06] <ardchoille> tech08: the nonfree flash package in the repos hasn't given me any problems yet on 11 computers :)
[20:06] <tech08> so? sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree?
[20:06] <ardchoille> Lexvegas: I'm not sure, but one such system was arccos and it does cause problems playing dvd's in mplayer, totem and xine
[20:07] <gcw|mobile> anyone know what's wrong with the version of gawk included with Ubuntu (hardy and intrepid) that causes it mess up case-sensitive subs and gsubs? I've checked IGNORECASE
[20:07] <C0p3rn1c> ardchoille: do you mean the adobe version or the original ubuntu package version that doesnt have problems ?
[20:07] <tech08> not sure what the difference is even with nonfree and adobe version if you want the truth
[20:07] <Flare183> tech08: the nonfree one
[20:07] <brohken> hello, does anyone know the command to turn off bluetooth on  a laptop? it auto starts each time and i want to write a quick script to disable it on-start. but not sure how to do that
[20:07] <ardchoille> tech08: that looks right
[20:07] <ardchoille> C0p3rn1c: the ubuntu package has not given me any problems
[20:07] <tech08> ardchoille: is the nonfree one the same as adobe or made to work with ubuntu better?
[20:07] <Lexvegas> ardchoille, thanks
[20:08] <C0p3rn1c> ardchoille: what kind of videocard do you have ?
[20:08] <ardchoille> tech08: no idea, when it works without a problem, I rarely question it
[20:08] <ardchoille> C0p3rn1c: nvidia GeForce 6200
[20:08] <tech08> ardchoille: ok thx
[20:08] <tech08> c0p3rnlc: do u know difference of nonfree and adobe?
[20:08] <C0p3rn1c> ardchoille: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1006352
[20:08] <usser> C0p3rn1c, no difference
[20:08] <C0p3rn1c> I cant get mine installed
[20:08] <Jampiter> Are there any tools available for ubuntu for fixing a stuck pixel?
[20:09] <ardchoille> tech08: I do know that the non-free package in the repos downloads a plugin from adobe
[20:09] <Solarium> Doldon, Did you get the fonts sorted man ?
[20:09] <Flare183> brohken: Click on System Menu -> Administration -> Services
[20:09] <brohken> Flare183, that just runs it off completely. i want it there. just not on at start
[20:09] <ardchoille> C0p3rn1c: install the 93 nvidia driver, less problems for 6200 cards
[20:10] <Flare183> Jampiter: Stuck Pixel? What is that? I am a developer and I still don't know what that is
[20:10] <C0p3rn1c> ardchoille: I tried that
[20:10] <Flare183> brohken: I have no idea
[20:10] <Doldon> Solarium, what are yu tolking about?
[20:10] <ardchoille> C0p3rn1c: use the hardware driver manager
[20:10] <C0p3rn1c> ardchoille: I did
[20:10] <tech08> ardchoille: reason I ask it seems intrepid doesn't handle videos on the web good. Buffers over and over
[20:10] <brohken> is there a command to just turn off bluetooth? i guess i can add that to my .profile
[20:10] <ardchoille> C0p3rn1c: did you run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" after installing?
[20:10] <tech08> ardchoille: or flash rather who knows
[20:10] <C0p3rn1c> ardchoille: no
[20:10] <ardchoille> tech08: youtube works great here with the nonfree package from the repos
[20:11] <ardchoille> C0p3rn1c: run that and then restartx
[20:11] <Flare183> tech08: You should just let it buffer all the way, and then watch it
[20:11] <tech08> ardchoille: im on fresh install, im worried after I update everything it says to update it will be buggy again.
[20:11] <C0p3rn1c> ardchoille: ok thx, I'll try
[20:11] <ardchoille> tech08: well, videos have to buffer until you get the entire file downloaded
[20:11] <tech08> flare183: it rebuffers over and over, glitchy
[20:11] <tech08> yes but no over and over
[20:11] <tech08> every 2 sec
[20:12] <Jampiter> Flare183: A pixel on an LCD monitor that is stuck on one colour
[20:12] <ardchoille> tech08: that can happen sometimes
[20:12] <C0p3rn1c> ardchoille: so I'll enable the 93 driver and then reboot and then run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[20:12] <tech08> ardchoille: ok I installed the nonfree, but youtube says I need to install flash player huh?
[20:12] <C0p3rn1c> in the tty1
[20:12] <CaptWho> if dhcp is already installed on my ubuntu box, how do i turn it on from the shell
[20:12] <CaptWho> ?
[20:12] <ardchoille> C0p3rn1c: no, enable the 93 driver, run that command and then reboot
[20:12] <C0p3rn1c> ardchoille: ok, then why is this not automated ? :)
[20:13] <ardchoille> C0p3rn1c: talk to nvidia about open sourcing their stuff :)
[20:13] <Flare183> ...
[20:13] <enzotib> CaptWho, do you mean dhclient ?
[20:13] <lmartin92> how does one go about getting the UUID of a /dev/sd* so that their fstab will work? (eg, my sda and sdb hardrives switch up from time to time) (I have 2 distros installed and I can't get the second one to stop booting as ubuntu)
[20:13] <tech08> anyone know command to see what version of flash I just installed.. about:plugins said I have flash, youtube said I need player
[20:13] <kroffe> hello i have a problem
[20:13] <Lexvegas> Jampiter, http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-software-solutions-to-fix-a-stuck-pixel-on-your-lcd-monitor/
[20:14] <Solarium> Doldon, Did you get the fonts sorted man ?
[20:14] <CaptWho> enzotib, yes
[20:14] <kroffe> can i ask a question here?
[20:14] <ardchoille> tech08: I've seen buffering go from every few seconds to every few minutes, depends on many factors
[20:14] <Flare183> !ask | kroffe
[20:14] <CaptWho> thank you very much enzotib
[20:15] <tech08> ardchoille: not in windows.. linux has an issue with either flash or firefox. It's something.
[20:15] <waltereo> Hi
[20:15] <ardchoille> tech08: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[20:15] <enzotib> lmartin92, vol_id
[20:15] <ardchoille> tech08: woudn't know, haven't touched Windows in 7 years :)
[20:15] <waltereo> I need some help, I want vim in graphical mode but the installation downot have it by default,
[20:15] <ardchoille> !info gvim | waltereo
[20:15] <tech08> ardchoille: ok it said I have 10 installed, about:plugins said I have flash so why is youtube telling me I dont?
[20:16] <MrWindex> hey all. anyone got a good cpp editor/compiler for ubuntu/linux?
[20:16] <Fezzler> "libxpcom.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"  How do I address this issue?
[20:16] <waltereo> I mean in ubuntu 8.04,
[20:16] <tech08> never mind
[20:16] <usser> walmis, sudo apt-get install gvim
[20:16] <ardchoille> !info vim-gnome | waltereo
[20:16] <kroffe> Flare183: i have inserted the cd-rom for ubuntu alternative and have pressed on the langues but then i cant press on any key
[20:16] <waltereo> ﻿!info vim-gnome
[20:16] <tech08> wow videos are so laggy
[20:16] <ardchoille> tech08: I don't know
[20:17] <waltereo> what is "  ﻿!info vim-gnome "
[20:17] <ardchoille> waltereo: vim with a gnome gui: sudo apt-get install vim-gnome
[20:17] <tech08> ardchoille: I had a browser open still hidden lol, its playing now but oh my word is it laggy
[20:17] <ardchoille> tech08: good job
[20:17] <Flare183> !vim-gtk | waltereo
[20:17] <roca> getting this error with ebox SSL received an unexpected Change Cipher Spec record. (Error code: ssl_error_rx_unexpected_change_cipher) anyone know how to fix this?
[20:17] <ardchoille> tech08: have you tried speeding up firefox?
[20:17] <Kalisto>  can someone take a look at this strace for loading a broadlogic 2030 driver?: http://rafb.net/p/OU2lXX98.htm
[20:17] <Flare183> oops
[20:17] <CaptWho> whooo!!!  apt-get dist-update did it
[20:18] <tech08> ardchoille: such as?
[20:18] <karname> hello , how can i see list of all user process that run (root and etc)?
[20:18] <ardchoille> tech08: Here are some tips to speed up the firefox web browser: http://howto.helpero.com/howto/Speed-Up-Firefox_31.html
[20:18] <Flare183> !info vim-gtk | waltereo
[20:18] <Fezzler> !vim-gtk
[20:18] <usser> gvim
[20:18] <Fezzler> !vim-gtk Fezzler
[20:18] <Flare183> I got it
[20:18] <usser> !info gvim
[20:18] <Flare183> ...
[20:18] <C0p3rn1c> ardchoille: this can be done without open sourcing(I hope they will in the future :)
[20:18] <C0p3rn1c> )
[20:18] <ardchoille> usser: it was renamed
[20:18] <Flare183> !askthebot
[20:18] <usser> oh
[20:18] <usser> my bat
[20:18] <usser> err my bad
[20:18] <Flare183> !enter
[20:18] <ardchoille> C0p3rn1c: would be nice
[20:18] <enzotib> karname, ps ax
[20:19] <MrWindex> thanks guys
[20:19] <brohken> is there a command to just turn off bluetooth? i guess i can add that to my .profile
[20:19] <brohken> sudo /usr/sbin/hciconfig hci0 down doesnt work :(
[20:20] <C0p3rn1c> brohken: you can blacklist it
[20:20] <ardchoille> brohken: there's an app in the repos that can help turn it off, as well as other services: sysv-rc-conf
[20:20] <C0p3rn1c> !blacklist | brohken
[20:20] <jseamus> i forcibly closed the "Music" folder in nautilus, and now i cannot see its contents in nautilus. i can still see and access them in the terminal, but i cannot use nautilus to get to that folder. any time i do go to that folder, nautilus freezes up and i have to forcibly close it again. i can still access sub-folders of "Music" from nautilus, but not the folder "Music" itself. any help?
[20:20] <TestingTheTest> I'm trying to use Ubuntu 8.04 on my Gateway MC7801u laptop... but all im seeing is a load of horizontil lines... and a "square" that i think is my pointer. any ideas ?
[20:20] <nova> does anyone know how to fix the "unable to set system clock" error at boot up?
[20:20] <karname> enzotib : tanks a lot
[20:20] <brohken> C0p3rn1c, i want it there... i just dont want it to turn on automatically at start
[20:20] <DVA5912> What command do i do to see what version of ubuntu i have
[20:20] <enzotib> karname, you are welcome
[20:21] <C0p3rn1c> brohken: you can always modprobe it later ?
[20:21] <ardchoille> DVA5912: lsb_release
[20:21] <ardchoille> DVA5912: lsb_release -a
[20:21] <brohken> nahh
[20:21] <waltereo> I tried to install vim-gtk  but then it will uninstall a whole bunch of software in order to install it.   I dont want to mess thing
[20:21] <ardchoille> waltereo: try vim-gnome
[20:22] <brohken> C0p3rn1c, do you know the command to disable it?
[20:22] <brohken> on my keyboard its just Fn+F5
[20:22] <C0p3rn1c> brohken: sadly no, maybe there is a config file somewhere
[20:22] <waltereo> ﻿ardchoille :  ok I ll let you knwon
[20:22] <angasule> hello, a friend is having a problem with new windows being placed below a gnome panel, from what I've googled, it appears this is compiz-related? is there a fix? I've found none
[20:23] <WedgeEPL> Gonzo
[20:23] <waltereo> ﻿ardchoille   : same thing a huge list of software will be uninstalled ....  !!
[20:23] <C0p3rn1c> brohken: let me know if you find it, I guess it will save some energy :)
[20:23] <C0p3rn1c> brb
[20:23] <ardchoille> waltereo: can you pastebin the output you're talking about?
[20:23] <ardchoille> !pastebin
[20:23] <WedgeEPL> Ma non sono in chat italia?
[20:23] <WedgeEPL> XD
[20:23] <WedgeEPL> -.-
[20:24] <ardchoille> !it | WedgeEPL
[20:24] <tech08> wow I wish I knew how lengthy that was b4 I started doing what that webpage said
[20:24] <brohken> C0p3rn1c, unfortunately i dont know where to even look. im a linux noob (2nd day using it) and im just guessing there is either a way to make it not start on load... or just write a simple 1 line script that runs on start and replicates my keyboard Fn+F5 command
[20:24] <waltereo> !pastebin
[20:24] <Letter_Z> What is the default location of KDE libraries in Ubuntu 8.04?
[20:24] <ardchoille> Letter_Z: ask in #kubuntu
[20:24] <Letter_Z> ardchoille, its a Ubuntu question, why would I ask in #kubuntu?
[20:25] <Mike_92> Can someone upload the Glossy theme for Hardy for me? Mine got messed up somehow.
[20:25] <ardchoille> Letter_Z: the best place for a kde question is the kde heolp channel, no?
[20:25] <torero> !ru
[20:25] <Letter_Z> ardchoille, its not a KDE question
[20:25] <angasule> Letter_Z: try #kubuntu
[20:25] <ardchoille> Letter_Z:  [12:24] <Letter_Z> What is the default location of KDE libraries in Ubuntu 8.04?  <-- sorry, looked like it to me
[20:25] <Letter_Z> ardchoille, I am asking where the KDE libraries in UBUNTU are, the libraries that came pre-packaged with ubuntu
[20:26] <Fezzler> Trying to run program with "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/firefox:. ./program"  How do I confirm if that is the correct path to firefox
[20:26] <ardchoille> Letter_Z: oh, I didn't think there were any
[20:26] <Letter_Z> Well, I've been running KDE programs with no effort and I didn't install KDE
[20:26] <Fezzler> Plus what does the ":." mean after "firefox"
[20:27] <C0p3rn1c> ardchoille: I tried the 96 driver + sudo nvidia-xorgconfig, it updated my xorg but I still get low graphics mode
[20:27] <ardchoille> Letter_Z: something doesn't sound right about that
[20:27] <nbeebo> can i use wubi even thought windows's internet doesnt work?
[20:27] <angasule> Fezzler: I think the : is the path separator
[20:27] <DVA5912> nbeebo: yes
[20:27] <ardchoille> C0p3rn1c: you mean the 93 driver?
[20:27] <nbeebo> DVA5912,  thanks ill try
[20:27] <C0p3rn1c> ardchoille: I think it was the 96
[20:28] <Letter_Z> ardchoille, I've been using Amarok, KDEGames and other KDE stuff with no problem and I never downloaded KDE, not to mention that KDE is in the repositories
[20:28] <ardchoille> C0p3rn1c: ah, you're right, it's 96: nvidia-glx-96
[20:28] <Letter_Z> But what I'm really asking is, what is the defualt directory for libraries in Ubuntu?
[20:28] <angasule> Letter_Z: /usr/lib :)
[20:28] <Letter_Z> Thanks
[20:29] <waltereo> ﻿ardchoille   :   http://paste.ubuntu.com/93373/,   the result of the command : sudo apt-get install vim-gtk
[20:29] <C0p3rn1c> ardchoille: I still get the same error as I stated on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1006352
[20:29] <ardchoille> Letter_Z: help with kde apps is in #kubuntu, not here. I'm not trying to be an idiot, but that's where the help is at
[20:29] <C0p3rn1c> last post
[20:29] <jseamus> ...
[20:29] <torero> !ru
[20:29] <scoler> i
[20:29] <tech08> ardchoille: really nice in making the pages faster :), but no luck with flash videos hehe
[20:29] <scoler> may i ask something
[20:29] <scoler> ..
[20:30] <ardchoille> tech08: ah, ok
[20:30] <vermont> I don't have a disc ripper in my sound/video menu...I don't know what happened to it...what's the program name so I can "apt-get" it?
[20:30] <tech08> ardchoille: do you think it could be from newest nvidia drivers?
[20:30] <scoler> y i can't install wine in ubuntu intrepid
[20:30] <scoler> ..
[20:31] <ardchoille> tech08: actually I think it depends on a lot of things (like how many other people are downloading the same file, your connection, etc) I've seen video vary widely depending on the site
[20:31] <ardchoille> !wine | scoler
[20:31] <waltereo> ﻿ardchoille   :   http://paste.ubuntu.com/93373/,   the result of the command : sudo apt-get install vim-gtk
[20:32] <scoler> tu
[20:32] <scoler> eh
[20:32] <scoler> ty
[20:32] <tech08> ardchoille: it none of the above its all linux. Windows doesn't give me a bit of problem with flash videos.. I have broadband a fast pc, so its something dealing with linux
[20:32] <brohken> is there a command to just turn off bluetooth? i guess i can add that to my .profile
[20:32] <ardchoille> tech08: ok
[20:32] <tech08> ardchoille: do google search and talking about youtube or flash videos, you will find 10000 of responses
[20:32] <tech08> but no fixes
[20:32] <vermont> what's a cd ripper program? there is no longer one in my sound video menu...I'm not sure why
[20:33] <ardchoille> waltereo: in the 3 years I have been running Ubuntu exclusivelu, I've not seen that problem
[20:33] <angasule> tech08: actually, it's about adobe...
[20:33] <C0p3rn1c> I can't get my ubuntu(listed as supported) nvidia geforce 6200 card to work http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1006352
[20:33] <nbeebo> wubi doesnt work without internet to windows at all..
[20:34] <waltereo> ﻿ardchoille  : ok
[20:34] <bastid_raZor> C0p3rn1c; use the legacy driver or enable the restricted drivers.. nearly all nVidia cards work
[20:34] <angasule> waltereo: did you uninstall debconf-i18n ?
[20:34] <angasule> or perl?
[20:34] <ardchoille> waltereo: I'm curious about something, can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[20:35] <C0p3rn1c> bastid_raZor: I tried all drivers using the "hardware drivers" tool
[20:35] <tech08> angasule: okay, but some can get it working fine while others can't? Whats the fix?
[20:35] <vermont> so, nobody here has ever ripped a CD in Ubuntu?
[20:35] <svcd> sure
[20:35] <ardchoille> vermont: music cd?
[20:35] <svcd> sure
[20:35] <vermont> yes, ardchoille
[20:35] <C0p3rn1c> bastid_raZor: olmost all of them, I tried the 96,173,177
[20:36] <angasule> tech08: the only sure fix is to not use flash, since adobe can't make it work well. I use youtube-dl to download youtube videos, then watch them with VLC, for example
[20:36] <Mike_92> Can someone please upload the Glossy theme that comes with hardy, mine was somehow messed up.
[20:36] <ardchoille> vermont: I use grip for ripping tacks, you'll need grip and lame both are in the repos
[20:36] <vermont> ardchoille, thanks that's what I was looking for.
[20:36] <svcd> soundjuicer
[20:36] <ardchoille> vermont: and easytag is a nice mp3 tag editor if you need one
[20:36] <tech08> angasule: funny you said that im in the process of getting video downloadhelper now :))
[20:36] <Decepticon> where do i find detailed information on the system's name, os, and all that, similar to uname -a, but more detailed
[20:36] <vermont> ardchoille, perfect. :)
[20:37] <waltereo> ﻿ardchoille     http://paste.ubuntu.com/93377/
[20:37] <C0p3rn1c> !﻿legacy
[20:37] <angasule> tech08: it's really a lot better, vlc uses less cpu than flash, and it has better controls for brightness and such
[20:38] <waltereo> ﻿angasule   : no i didn't uninstall ﻿debconf-i18n
[20:38] <C0p3rn1c> !﻿legacydriver
[20:38] <mirak> hi
[20:38] <angasule> waltereo: and perl?
[20:38] <svcd> anybody get a cell phone to connect to the phones internet with the eee pc . It works almost automagically with my desktop ubuntu but not the eee
[20:38] <ardchoille> waltereo: your sources.list file currently is mixing sources from different ubuntu releases, this can cause all manner of problems. you should ponly be using sources for your release and no others
[20:38] <mirak> how can I know what options can take a module  ?
[20:38] <waltereo> ﻿ardchoille  : Ok
[20:38] <ardchoille> waltereo: that's what I was curious about
[20:39] <roca> getting this error with ebox SSL received an unexpected Change Cipher Spec record. (Error code: ssl_error_rx_unexpected_change_cipher) anyone know how to fix this?
[20:39] <bastid_raZor> C0p3rn1c; doesn't 8.10 have restricted manager?
[20:39] <C0p3rn1c> bastid_raZor: so I should try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[20:39] <billybigrigger> who here uses conky and monitors GPU temps?
[20:39] <Decepticon> where do i find detailed information on the system's name, os, and all that, similar to uname -a, but more detailed
[20:39] <C0p3rn1c> bastid_raZor: I don't know
[20:40] <bastid_raZor> billybigrigger; you'll need lm-sensors package
[20:40] <billybigrigger> bastid_raZor, yes i have it
[20:40] <billybigrigger> bastid_raZor, just trying to encorporate nvclock -T into conky, and was wondering if anyone else has it
[20:40] <svcd> anybody get a cell phone to connect to the phones internet with the eee pc . It works almost automagically with my desktop ubuntu but not the eee
[20:40] <bastid_raZor> C0p3rn1c; i still use 8.04 so i can't really be too much of help. in 8.04 restricted drivers manager ..
[20:40] <Joeseph> I'm attempting to install a logitech  quickCam Connect for Skype in Ubuntu Intrepid. I am following this guide: http://www.actionshrimp.com/2008/08/logitech-quickcam-e2500-on-ubuntu-skype/     --- I would like to know how to install the .tar.gz drivers you get from the first link.
[20:40] <billybigrigger> im trying to read through a 500+ mega post on conky but cant pinpoint what im looking for
[20:41] <waltereo> ﻿angasule  :   perl is libperl 5.8
[20:41] <C0p3rn1c> bastid_raZor: its the same as in 8.10
[20:41] <C0p3rn1c> bastid_raZor: System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[20:41] <zupb> hi, guys. i try to install ubuntu server 8.10 on qemu, but when my system try scanning the mirror, it's stop on 43% :( some ideas?
[20:41] <ameed> Hello All
[20:41] <ardchoille> waltereo: are you on hardy?
[20:42] <ameed> I just bought  a Dell Latitude D830
[20:42] <gangsterlicious> hmmm.... i accidently deleted MySQL root user
[20:42] <gangsterlicious> this sucks
[20:42] <waltereo> ﻿ardchoille :   I just have to remove the intrepid line in my Synaptic package manager
[20:42] <ameed> and am unable to install Ubuntu on it
[20:42] <The_Joe_> Anyway I can see an ext3 partition/disk on Windows?
[20:42] <C0p3rn1c> ameed: I have one too
[20:42] <waltereo> ﻿ardchoille :  yes i am on hardy
[20:42] <ameed> can anyone please help
[20:42] <gangsterlicious> and it replicated to two other slaves. great
[20:42] <ardchoille> waltereo: "line(s)", there are two there
[20:42] <bastid_raZor> C0p3rn1c; install nvidia-settings .. run that afterwards if you've installed the drivers via hardware drivers. it may also work if you installed them with a bin
[20:42] <Mike_92> Can someone please upload the Glossy theme that comes with hardy, mine was somehow messed up.
[20:42] <waltereo> ﻿ardchoille : yes 2 lines
[20:42] <Zzeiss> what's the command to flip to a particular virtual terminal?  Like ctrl-alt-F1 but from the command line?
[20:42] <sinbox> why can't you ameed?
[20:42] <ameed> C0p3rn1c: can you help me please
[20:43] <ardchoille> waltereo: after you remove those, update your sources with:  sudo apt-get update
[20:43] <C0p3rn1c> ameed: what is your question ?
[20:43] <ameed> After i boot from the CD and Choose to install
[20:43] <ameed> It freezes
[20:43] <C0p3rn1c> bastid_raZor: I did run nvidia-settings already
[20:43] <ameed> then i get Error 5
[20:43] <bastid_raZor> billybigrigger; #conky may be a good place to ask and also check out :: http://conky.sourceforge.net/docs.html
[20:44] <ameed> i tried mandriva and it worked and OpenSolaris
[20:44] <bastid_raZor> C0p3rn1c; once you restarted X after that, how did that work?
[20:44] <ameed> but i want Ubuntu
[20:44] <C0p3rn1c> bastid_raZor: I installed 96 , sudo nvidia-settings and then rebooted
[20:44] <C0p3rn1c> bastid_raZor: I still got the low graphics mode
[20:44] <Zzeiss> what's the command to flip to a particular virtual terminal?  Like ctrl-alt-F1 but from the command line?
[20:45] <n8tuser> CaptWho->  run  sudo tasksel and select from the menu
[20:45] <C0p3rn1c> ameed: I dident have any problems with ubuntu 8.04
[20:45] <ameed> i ve been trying Ubuntu 8.10
[20:45] <ameed> for installation
[20:45] <sinbox> which version of ubuntu you trying to install ameed ?
[20:45] <n8tuser> Zzeiss-> what does it mean to flip ? which ebonic is that from?
[20:46] <C0p3rn1c> ameed: strange, you can also run it from windows
[20:46] <ameed> sinbox:Version 8.10
[20:46] <ameed> i tried from windows
[20:46] <sinbox> I haven't tried 8.10 yet ameed sorry, not had a problem with the few 8.04 I've done though
[20:46] <C0p3rn1c> ameed: and install it from there
[20:46] <ameed> and i got the same error
[20:46] <C0p3rn1c> ameed: what error exactly?
[20:46] <ameed> sinbox:i will try downloading 8.04
[20:46]  * _anigma directs Zzeiss to http://linux.about.com/od/lts_guide/a/gdelts18.htm
[20:46] <Zzeiss> n8tuser: well, you know how you can switch to terminals 1-6 which are TTYs and terminal 7 which is your X session with ctrl-alt-Fn ?  This is the same functionality but from the command line.
[20:46] <The_Joe_> Ehh
[20:47] <The_Joe_> Anyone know? No-one?
[20:47] <tech08> angasule: which downloader do you use, downloadhelper which ive used a lot in windows works, i install it and it seems to be finding the video but when I test it with random video and download it, it just says starting for download but actually doesn't?
[20:47] <ameed> File cannot be found
[20:47] <angasule> tech08: I use youtube-dl with youtube
[20:47] <C0p3rn1c> ameed: so you did try booting from a live cd and then chose the option install ubuntu ?
[20:47] <usser> Zzeiss, chvt
[20:48] <usser> Zzeiss, chvt 1 for example
[20:48] <Zzeiss> usser: That's it!  Thanks!
[20:48] <tech08> angasule: roger that
[20:48] <ameed> yes
[20:48] <ameed> i done that
[20:48] <Joeseph> Hi. I am attempting to install the drivers for a webcam from http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html      I am getting the error:  FATAL you need to install the Kernel Source for your running kernel  ----  Any ideas?
[20:48] <usser> Zzeiss, np
[20:48] <ameed> and same results
[20:48] <The_Joe_> Anyway I can see an ext3 partition/disk on Windows?
[20:48] <The_Joe_> A driver or something
[20:48] <C0p3rn1c> ameed: maybe your cd is damaged ?
[20:48] <usser> The_Joe_, yes theres ext2 driver for windows although it doesnt work too good
[20:49] <ameed> No , for sure becouse i tried it on my other laptop
[20:49] <The_Joe_> usser_, That's just ext2? Or does it work for ext3?
[20:49] <ameed> and worked
[20:49] <usser> The_Joe_, http://www.fs-driver.org/
[20:49] <n8tuser> The_Joe_-> maybe with a cygwin ?
[20:49] <usser> The_Joe_, ext3 is just ext2 with the journal
[20:49] <waltereo> ﻿ardchoille , ﻿angasule : Thanks working fine now !!    btw how can you follow all these conversation
[20:49] <The_Joe_> usser_, Oh ok - thanks, bye
[20:49] <usser> The_Joe_, so u'll be accessing ext3 partition as if it was ext2
[20:49] <C0p3rn1c> ameed: the d830 right?
[20:49] <ameed> Yes it is
[20:49] <ameed> D830
[20:49] <C0p3rn1c> ameed: very strange
[20:50] <angasule> waltereo: I don't :)
[20:50] <n8tuser> Joeseph-> sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[20:50] <bashca> please  i used  this command  usermod -G10 user1  ?? how can return to default  please ??
[20:51] <bastid_raZor> C0p3rn1c; it seems a bit bleak this guide may help:: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual  .. although i have yet to upgrade my 2nd box to 8.10 it has a nVidia 5200.. i'm curious to how well it'll work in the future.
[20:51] <ameed> C0p3rn1c: what do you recommend
[20:51] <ameed> ?
[20:51] <hocem> hello
[20:51] <n8tuser> bashca-> you can always edit /etc/passwd
[20:52] <Joeseph> n8tuser: build-essential is already the newest version
[20:52] <n8tuser> Joeseph-> does /usr/linux/src  exist?
[20:52] <bashca> n8tuser, but  i can't use    my login to open users&groups manager  ???
[20:52] <ameed> C0p3rn1c: does it help if i tell you my Hardrive is SATA
[20:52] <hocem> what is the best package to deal with mp3 format?
[20:53] <Joeseph> n8tuser: It does not seem to
[20:53] <bastid_raZor> !mp3 | hocem
[20:53] <n8tuser> Joeseph-> opps i think its /usr/src/
[20:53] <mroc> having trouble with connecting a bluetooth printer.  hp c5550 ... device pairing fails in less than a second every time.
[20:53] <n8tuser> Joeseph-> i think its /usr/src/`uname -r`
[20:53] <hocem> i have always trouble playing mp3
[20:53] <Joeseph> n8tuser: /usr/src/ does exist
[20:53] <C0p3rn1c> ameed: maybe that is the problem, I dunno about sata support on linux
[20:53] <n8tuser> Joeseph-> well thats where the kernel source is usually put
[20:53] <C0p3rn1c> ameed: oh no wait, it works
[20:54] <bashca> n8tuser, ????
[20:54] <C0p3rn1c> ameed: I've already installed a sata pc, from windows
[20:55] <n8tuser> bashca-> rather edit /etc/group  to assign a user to a group
[20:55] <ameed> C0p3rn1c: in the live CD it mentioned something about if the normal installation dont work try to use a Floppy disk , any idea ?
[20:55] <bashca> ???  how that
[20:55] <Zzeiss> Hmmm... now chvt N complains "Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console".  It worked on previous Ubuntus.  :(
[20:55] <roca> getting this error with ebox: SSL received an unexpected Change Cipher Spec record. (Error code: ssl_error_rx_unexpected_change_cipher) anyone know how to fix this?
[20:55] <C0p3rn1c> ameed: nope sorry, but I have to go, maybe some other ppl in here can help you
[20:56] <Joeseph> n8tuser: I think I found part of the problem... "Please note, the default location for the kernel, according to the driver, is /usr/src/linux." and mine is just /usr/src/ .....
[20:56] <bashca> i just want know what G10 is ??
[20:56] <ameed> C0p3rn1c: Thanks alot
[20:56] <n8tuser> bashca-> cat /etc/group to get yourself familiarized, and man usermod
[20:56] <C0p3rn1c> bastid_raZor: ok thanks, I'll maybe try that later
[20:56] <C0p3rn1c> ameed: you're welcome
[20:56] <C0p3rn1c> ameed: pass it forward ;-)
[20:56] <bashca> n8tuser, root:x:0:bashca
[20:57] <ameed> will do
[20:57] <Torrential> I'm having a bit of trouble launching the latest 64-bit desktop edition of Ubuntu on my Dell XPS M1530 laptop. I put the disc in, it loads the boot screen, I say to launch without affecting the hard drive(I already have Ubuntu installed on a partition but I need to rewrite grub to my MBR so I can use it, I dual-boot Windows) and then it just repeats 'EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with
[20:57] <Torrential> ordered
[20:57] <Torrential> data mode.' without ever getting past this.
[20:57] <ameed> sinbox: are you available ?
[20:57] <bastid_raZor> C0p3rn1c; at the end of that guide it suggests envyNG as a last alternative. it is odd that nVidia is having issues. nVidia seems to have excellent driver support. (or so i thought)
[20:57] <hocem> amroock is good for ubuntu?
[20:58] <Joeseph> Does anyone else know of a way to install logitech quickCam connect e 2500 drivers for ubuntu
[20:58] <ameed> Any body could help with Ubuntu Installation on Dell D830 - am not able to make it work !
[20:59] <n8tuser> bashca-> so look for group 10
[20:59] <sinbox> ameed, sorry but I have no experience with SATA, but you said it installed on your other laptop?
[20:59] <ameed> sinbox: Any idea why Mandriva & OpenSolaris worked smoothly ?
[21:00] <Torrential> Is there some special boot parameter I need to pass for the Ubuntu live-cd to load up on a Dell XPS M1530? A while ago when I installed it, the 8.04 version worked but the 8.10 version does not.
[21:01] <mike1504> Help anyone my gnome desktop is super slow in super user mode. gksu gedit or gksu nautilus are so slow a snail would beat them by a mile.  In normal user mode both seem to work fine
[21:02] <FisherPrice> usser it's working now thank you... now i just need to find out why compiz isn't working. I'll try to sort it out myself first
[21:02] <Joeseph> I have the windows drivers for this webcam: Is there any way I can use those to help me install the linux ones?
[21:02] <DVA5912> Is their a graphical interface to LCD proc? IM used to LCD smartie
[21:02] <ameed> sinbox: i just found out that my Dell D830 is 64 bit
[21:03] <Torrential> Nobody have any idea why Ubuntu's live-cd would fail to load with the error message EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with
[21:03] <Torrential> ordered
[21:03] <Torrential> data mode. Commit interval 5 secs. and just repeat this over and over?
[21:03] <ameed> sinbox, does this mean i cannot install a 32 bit version ?
[21:03] <sinbox> maybe it's something to do with how your SATA controller is setup in the BIOS ameed , you can install a 32 bit version on a 64 bit machine
[21:03] <mocha> Does anyone have a few suggestions for native Linux strategy type games?
[21:03] <Torrential> mocha: freeciv?
[21:03] <sinbox> would freecol count mocha?
[21:04] <usser> FisherPrice, cool
[21:04] <ameed> sinbox: what do you recommend i should do , you can kill me but not use Microsift Windows again
[21:04] <mynx38> mocha: openTTD..(trains)
[21:04] <mocha> Sorry, I don't know what either of those are.  I'm looking for Rise of Nations, Command & Conquer, etc. types.
[21:04] <white-sheep> !md5sum > Torrential
[21:04] <Torrential> mocha: Perhaps, BoS Wars?
[21:05] <mynx38> mocha: hehe, sorry ;)
[21:05] <usser> mocha, ta-spring
[21:05] <Torrential> white-sheep: The md5sums match. I've tested it before I burned the CD
[21:05] <sinbox> freecol is colonisation and freeciv civilisation , old amiga games mocha
[21:05] <white-sheep> Torrential: I have the Dell M1530 too. I installed it without any hiccups.
[21:05] <usser> mocha, http://spring.clan-sy.com/
[21:05] <ubuntoil> Hi, is there a kde3 repo in ubuntu 8.10 ?
[21:05] <Torrential> white-sheep: The 64-bit 8.10 desktop edition?
[21:06] <bashca> any help  please   on usermod -G10 username ???
[21:06] <white-sheep> Torrential: Yes.
[21:06] <qcjn> hi, why, often when you open a txt file, or configuration file, it makes another one ??
[21:06] <Torrential> white-sheep: Did you pass any special boot parameters?
[21:06] <zoed> !kde3
[21:06] <mynx38> usser: looks cool
[21:06] <chinoaaa> buongiorno atutti
[21:06] <mocha> Thanks for the suggestions, I'll give them a look :D
[21:06] <sinbox> not too sure what to recommend ameed as I said I don't really know about SATA at all and even less about 64 bit :)  check if this makes sense to you:  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/65235-sata-install-problems.html#post345747
[21:07] <qcjn> with a home sign
[21:07] <white-sheep> Torrential: I didn't -- just i8042.nomux=1 for touchpad.
[21:07] <usser> mynx38, not as good as starcraft 2 but it does the job for me :)
[21:07] <nonix4> Can you revoke your own group membership/permissions on the fly w/out resorting to root?
[21:07] <anthony_> hello all
[21:07] <mynx38> usser: I agree.
[21:07] <anthony_> wow I have to admit this is pretty cool
[21:08] <white-sheep> nonix4: I think you're looking for...  Right-click on the file and change permissions?
[21:08] <anthony_> I have a question about Apache
[21:08] <Torrential> white-sheep: Yeah, the touchpad issue for the A09 bios version. Well I guess I'll try rebooting and give it another go, otherwise I'll use my 8.04 disc to reinstall grub
[21:08] <anthony_> it's a newbie question...can anyone help?
[21:08] <anthony_> way newbie
[21:08] <n8tuser> bashca-> man usemod
[21:08] <TwoD> !question
[21:08] <zoed> ubuntoil: http://dot.kde.org/1225379191/1225397878/1225417809/1225593122/1225770339/
[21:08] <lwizardl> anyone know of a good mobo that supports 4 PCI-e x16 SLI?
[21:08] <duffydack> little quirk i would like sorted out... anything o copy from a cd/dvd to home folder does not let me then delete it without a 'sudo' , any reason for this?  apart from the cd/dvd fs being read-only..
[21:08] <anthony_> ok
[21:08] <nonix4> white-sheep: no, want to remove myself from the "audio" group
[21:09] <bashca> n8tuser, i did  but  no result  ??
[21:09] <n8tuser> bashca-> man usemod  and read the option -G  what does it say?
[21:09] <Sarai> The sudoku game that came with gnome has suddenly stopped working for me. It was fine this morning but now when I try to open it it brings up the window for a second and then quits. What can I do?
[21:10] <anthony_> on a ubuntu server I want to be able to "open" up the /var/www directory so I can write HTML from another PC and upload it to the public WWW directory of Apache, how do I go about doing this?
[21:10] <Sarai> I tried restarting, and reinstalling it
[21:10] <sinbox> bashca why did you issue that command in the first place and what did it do?
[21:10] <ubuntoil> zoed: yeah I found that, but is it reliable ?
[21:10] <ameed> sinbox: thanks
[21:10] <TwoD> anthony_: open up? As in allow FTP:ing to that folder?
[21:10] <zoed> ubuntoil: no idea
[21:10] <zoed> I use gnome myself.
[21:10] <anthony_> I guess, just be able to upload HTML files
[21:11] <anthony_> I cannot SCP from my PC to the WWW directory
[21:11] <ubuntoil> zoed: why, the hell did they choose kde4 ..?
[21:11] <anthony_> which is what I want to do
[21:12] <bashca> sinbox, i was  planning  to add my user to wheel group .. ??   but  i guess it was  mistake becuse i
[21:12] <sinbox> have you ftp access setup for the www folder anthony?
[21:12] <anthony_> no
[21:12] <anthony_> should I?
[21:12] <nonix4> white-sheep: also known as trying to work around the dain bramage called LTS pulseaudio
[21:12] <Ryou> hi, what is the linux kernel that comes with Ubuntu 8.10
[21:12] <usser> anthony_, chown -R $USERNAME:$USERNAME /var/www
[21:12] <Ranakah> Ryou 2.6.27-7
[21:12] <anthony_> ahhh.....
[21:12] <nonix4> or should I say, pulsesilence :-(
[21:12] <anthony_> ty usser
[21:13] <usser> anthony_, that may not be secure but it does the job, ask in #lamp about security implications
[21:13] <peniel> hola
[21:13] <bashca> lost my power on controlling the users&groups manager and  also  connecting to internet through modem
[21:13] <peniel> que tal
[21:13] <anthony_> ty again usser!!!
[21:13] <sinbox> possibly better setting up ftp access anthony, well, more secure
[21:13] <peniel> hi usser
[21:13] <anthony_> now, how do I get to #lamp room?
[21:13] <TwoD> anthony_: maybe there's a permissions problem. /var/www is owned by root, but you can do like I did and put a symlink in there to your home folder, or just change owner/rights on it.
[21:13] <streenz> .  /join #lamp
[21:13] <anthony_> ty all!
[21:13] <eth01> sinbox: FTP is NOT secure.
[21:13] <Smegzor> My son has set my gnome screen resolution to the lowest possible setting and I can't fix it using graphical tools.  How do I set screen res in gnome from a console?  I installed KDE fortunately, so I'm in that at the moment.
[21:14] <usser> anthony_, err sorry not #lamp apparently it doesnt exist
[21:14] <usser> anthony_, #apache or something like that
[21:14] <anthony_> it is inside my my small network
[21:14] <anthony_> LOL
[21:14] <anthony_> you all are very helpful
[21:14] <sinbox> OK eth01 it's just what I usually use to edit the sites I look after
[21:14] <roca> anyone know how to change the ip address ebox looks to?
[21:14] <eth01> anthony_: wrong channel to lol in
[21:14] <eth01> sinbox: maybe
[21:17] <lays> hey there guys
[21:17] <lays> i have a problem
[21:17] <zoed> !question
[21:17] <lays> i cant get 3d antialiasing to work on non-root user
[21:17] <lays> glxgears is smooth with sudo
[21:18] <lays> but without it is not
[21:18] <lays> tried setting -w permissions to .nvidia-settings-rc
[21:18] <lays> but it didnt work
[21:19] <lays> after X restart it doesnt work but when i execute nvidia-settings -l (no matter what account from) it starts working for root
[21:19] <lays> a bit strange
[21:20] <ameed> sinbox: i have no option for enhanced mode in my bios
[21:20] <DVA5912> What is a good program for my to use that has a gui for managing my HD44780 LCD screen?
[21:20] <ameed> sinbox, i will try updating my BIOS
[21:21] <DVA5912> will lcd_smartie run in linux?
[21:22] <Ryou> hi, whenever i try to connect to a wireless network (even unencrypted ones) it won't work, and in dmesg it says "AP denied association (code=12)"
[21:23] <Ryou> i'm using b43 driver, why would it deny association...
[21:24] <Joeseph> Hi. I'm following this guide at http://www.actionshrimp.com/2008/08/logitech-quickcam-e2500-on-ubuntu-skype/ to install the drivers for a logitech webcam.   When I run the build script for the driver, I get an error message saying "Fatal Error: you need to install the Kernel Source for your running kernel" ---- any idea what that means?
[21:25] <MisYogi> hi i have a little problem with my ubu 8.1 - http://kiler129.dlk.pl/error.html
[21:25] <skorasaurus> !freeagent
[21:26] <billybigrigger> how do i run an .sh script? sh blah.sh or ./blah.sh???
[21:26] <Ryou> hi, i can't access the ubuntu forums??
[21:27] <Joeseph> Sorry, does anyone know what "﻿you need to install the Kernel Source for your running kernel" even means?
[21:28] <ardchoille> Joeseph: are you trying to install vifeo drivers?
[21:28] <ardchoille> *video
[21:29] <EightEleven> Joeseph: You can install the kernel source just like you install other packages.
[21:29] <Joeseph> ardchoille: I believe I am trying to install gspca drivers for a logitech quickcam e 2500
[21:29] <ardchoille> Joeseph: ah, ok
[21:29] <Joeseph> EightEleven: Do I need to install my kernel source ? If so, how do I do that?
[21:29] <EightEleven> Joeseph: You know how to install packages with synaptic?
[21:29] <unop_> billybigrigger, the latter way is safer
[21:30] <Joeseph> EightEleven: yes I do.  sudo apt-get install....  etc.
[21:30] <bonhoffer> xpdf is killing me, i just want to select text from a pdf -- is there a better app on ubuntu?
[21:30] <GodfatherofEire> Could I get a little help with a Remote desktop connection?
[21:30] <EightEleven> Joeseph; Ok, then just search for a package with kernel and source in the description.
[21:30] <IntuitiveNipple> Joeseph: To build/install an out-of-tree kernel module, you *only* need the kernel headers, which should already be installed.
[21:30] <ardchoille> bonhoffer: evince
[21:30] <GodfatherofEire> Not quite sure what I'm doing wrong
[21:30] <Ryou> does http://www.ubuntuforums.org work for ne1 else
[21:30] <unop_> bonhoffer, there's evince .. and there's acroread from medibuntu
[21:30] <Joeseph> IntuitiveNipple: So you're saying I shouldn't need to install the source?
[21:31] <IntuitiveNipple> Ryou: There's a problem at the moment, I believe
[21:31] <Joeseph> IntuitiveNipple: How can I make sure my headers are installed?
[21:31] <IntuitiveNipple> Joeseph: If you only want to build the gspca module, you only need the kernel headers.
[21:32] <sinbox> Ryou works for me.  Is your acces point maybe set to onl;y allow cetain machines to connect rather than the other way around?
[21:32] <IntuitiveNipple> Joeseph: Try this: dpkg-query -l 'linux-headers*'
[21:32] <billybigrigger> unop_, ok im trying to run ./windowed_1024x768.sh and its giving me an error  ./windowed_1024x768.sh: 13: ./bin/main_x86: not found  but the /bin/main_x86 exists
[21:32] <IntuitiveNipple> Ryou: There are proxy errors right now for ubuntuforums
[21:32] <streenz> I've heard XFCE is "faster" than Gnome, yet on my netbook (1.6ghz Atom CPU, 1.5g ram) they both seem to run the same speed... am I missing something here, or would XFCE only be faster if my RAM usage was lower?
[21:32] <billybigrigger> unop_, its a graphics rendering from unigine.com im trying to stress test my cpu's gpu's
[21:32] <bonhoffer> unop_, good text copying in those?
[21:32] <streenz> er .. higher % used
[21:33] <Joeseph> IntuitiveNipple: It seems to say that I don't have them installed.  which ones do I install though?
[21:33] <unop_> !kernel source | Joeseph
[21:33] <IntuitiveNipple> Joeseph: Do none of them show "ii" in the first column?
[21:33] <unop_> billybigrigger,  ./bin/main_x86 is not /bin/main_x86
[21:33] <Steff> Hi guys..
[21:33] <billybigrigger> so should i edit the script and remove the .
[21:33] <billybigrigger> ?
[21:34] <sinbox> streenz, apparently it is faster on most machines but not all, you could always try a window manager insterad of a full desktop for a greater speed gain
[21:34] <Joeseph> IntuitiveNipple: 5 of them show ii in the first column..... does that mean they are installed?
[21:34] <unop_> billybigrigger, i dunno really - maybe you should find out if there's anything special to do before running the script or perhaps if the script is to be run a special way
[21:34] <billybigrigger> unop_, try removing the . in the ./bin/main_x86 line and its the same error, without the .
[21:34] <IntuitiveNipple> Joeseph: Yes
[21:34] <duffydack> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[21:34] <duffydack> oops, didnt see your post ubottu
[21:35] <Joeseph> IntuitiveNipple: I'll run the other apt-get for the linux-headers-'uname-r' and run it again to see what happens.
[21:35] <IntuitiveNipple> Joeseph: linux-headers are installed to match each kernel release update so it sounds like the PC has what it needs
[21:35] <linkmaster03> how do I remove and reload a module?
[21:35] <streenz> sinbox, I've only ever used Gnome up til now.. would Xfce run faster if all the Gnome-related stuff was removed? ie. will it load/run faster in Xfce if Gnome packages arent installed or are they simply not used when Xfce is run
[21:35] <unop_> bonhoffer, i know acroread lets you select and copy text - but it depends on the security set in the PDF itself
[21:35] <ardchoille> streenz: xfce does run much faster without all of the gnome stuff
[21:35] <allsystemsarego> linkmaster03, "modprobe -r module; modprobe module"
[21:35] <IntuitiveNipple> linkmaster03: Assuming the module isn't 'in use', you can do "sudo modprobe -r modulename && sudo modprobe modulename"
[21:36] <ardchoille> streenz: also there are some really nice window managers available in the repos, fluxbox seems to be very popular and I like windowmaker
[21:36] <pyrophelia> does anybody know of any tools that would let me format a disk in ext4 yet?
[21:37] <ardchoille> isn't ext4 still beta?
[21:37] <pyrophelia> negative
[21:37] <ardchoille> ok
[21:37] <Joeseph> IntuitiveNipple: That apt-get seemed to get me past my first error, I'll keep working down and come back if I have more problems.
[21:37] <streenz> ardchoille, is there a way to remove all the Gnome packages and strip it down to just the basic ones needed for Xfce?
[21:37] <ardchoille> streenz: I'm sure there is, but I don't know how
[21:37] <ardchoille> !purexfce
[21:37] <sinbox> fluxbox is indeed very nice ardchoille I haven't tried windowmaker yet is it nice?
[21:38] <ardchoille> streenz: ah, loook what ubottu just posted
[21:38] <ardchoille> sinbox: windowmaker is my favorite, it mimics the NeXT look and feel
[21:38] <sinbox> yes there is streenz look on www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[21:38] <streenz> ardchoille, aha thats exactly what I was looking for
[21:39] <duffydack> you can format to ext4 now...
[21:39] <Paolo88> hi
[21:39] <ardchoille> I wasn't sure the !purexfce factoid was in the bot's database, but it's good that I decided to trigger it :)
[21:39] <duffydack> mkfs.ext4
[21:39] <sinbox> is there a windowmaker channel on here ardchoille ?
[21:39] <sinbox> ah yes, found it :)
[21:39] <duffydack> have done it on a temp partition but cant see any benefit
[21:40] <Galaxor> Hello.  Does anybody know where I can ask about xmame?  #xmame and #mame don't seem to exist.  I found a #mame channel using google, but it turned out to be a place where people broadcast about warez, not a discussion forum.
[21:40] <ardchoille> sinbox: I' don't know of one, but there is a nice website that explains some things: http://xwinman.org/
[21:40] <jin> !java
[21:41] <ardchoille> sinbox: idk
[21:41] <duffydack> the ubuntu-restricted-extras has java in
[21:41] <schooladmin> I have a request
[21:41] <ardchoille> sinbox:  http://www.windowmaker.info/
[21:41] <sinbox> there is ardchoille just found it: #windowmaker  strangely enough ;-)
[21:42] <ardchoille> hehe
[21:42] <ardchoille> sinbox: thanks, I'll make note of that
[21:42] <radar1976> I need an ssh shell for about 2 mins
[21:42] <neosimago> So overall, what's the consensus on 4 oh?
[21:42] <ardchoille> radar1976: this is not the place to solicit that kind of thing
[21:42] <radar1976> I have locked myself out of my router at home but I'm not at home...
[21:42] <amnuci> hellooooooooooooooo Nouamea :D:d:d:d
[21:42] <sinbox> my list of channels to join on connect on freenode is getting stupidly long as time goes by
[21:42] <amnuci> good :P this is cool, finally here..
[21:43] <ardchoille> sinbox: hahaha
[21:43] <amnuci> hello ubunters >:D<
[21:43] <duffydack> radar1976:   by ip or what
[21:43] <ardchoille> !ot
[21:43] <radar1976> I need ssh so I can log into my ssh router as it is blocked my IP
[21:43] <pyrophelia> radar1976, in this channel, that's like asking to borrow a prepubescent boy while dressed in a priests outfit.
[21:44] <duffydack> get a new ip then... unless you have dedicated, doh
[21:44] <radar1976> it some how thought that my PPTP was an attack and blocked everthing
[21:44] <duffydack> or, use TOR
[21:44] <radar1976> a little hard when I'm 500Km away
[21:44] <linkmaster03> run really fast
[21:44] <pyrophelia> radar there are tons of free shell hosts
[21:44] <radar1976> ssh via tor?
[21:44] <pyrophelia> just google it
[21:44] <radar1976> I tryed looking on google for one
[21:45] <radar1976> hmmm ok...
[21:45] <radar1976> I was using the wrong terms
[21:45] <rasecsevla> join #ubuntu-br
[21:45] <duffydack> so you are static ip then ?
[21:45] <radar1976> yes
[21:45] <duffydack> sucks
[21:45] <radar1976> yeah I know
[21:46] <imaginativeone> if I reinstall Ubuntu will I lose all of my apps?
[21:46] <sinbox> !clone | imaginativeone
[21:46] <duffydack> im sure someone with a vbox install of linux could lend a hand :)
[21:46] <ardchoille> imaginativeone: the system will be as it was after a fresh install
[21:46] <duffydack> im not one of em
[21:47] <imaginativeone> damn, that was an awesome answer
[21:47] <duffydack> imaginativeone: you`ll lose your apps, until you install em again, but you`ll lose the settings for em unless you have a seperate /home
[21:47] <radar1976> bah
[21:48] <radar1976> all the freeshells require time!
[21:48] <radar1976> no instant free shels
[21:48] <treyk4> I'm having some problems with the ubuntu 64-bit edition. After starting the liveCD, I get the usual prograss bar, and once it gets to a ceratin point, the loading screen goes away and it goes back to the plain old console, stuck at the point where it says "Starting powernowd...". It won't go any farther than that. I'm using an AMD64 HP. What could be the problem?
[21:48] <imaginativeone> I just bought a WD 1TB external HD and I'm hoping to store some stuff there...
[21:49] <imaginativeone> should I move my /home to the external?
[21:49] <mirak> how can I change easily the daemon launch order ?
[21:49] <duffydack> off topic:  i tried opensolaris live cd in a vbox, it NEEDED 512 ram, and was dog slow to use.. wasnt impressed..
[21:49] <redwyrm> what program is used to lock the screen?
[21:49] <redwyrm> in 8.10*
[21:49] <Ryou> hi can someone tell me what sudo depmod -a does?
[21:50] <duffydack> Ryou:  it plays depeche mode -all day
[21:50] <sergey> Hello everybody! Give me a peace of advice, plase. How do i get a list a the package i have insolled ever?
[21:50] <GodfatherofEire> Whats a terminal command for logging off a user?
[21:50] <treyk4> GodfatherofEire: logout, I believe. you may also want to try exit.
[21:51] <GodfatherofEire> treyk4, thanks
[21:51] <enzotib> sergey, dpkg -l
[21:51] <zorrolero> Ryou: man depmod
[21:52] <sergey> enzotib, thanks a lot!
[21:52] <GodfatherofEire> treyk4, didnt work, but like, logging off over VNC?
[21:52] <enzotib> GodfatherofEire, logout a gnome session?
[21:52] <Ryou> how do i get depeche mode?
[21:53] <GodfatherofEire> enzotib, yeah, I just wasnt able to view the logout button for some reason, so I just ran sudo init 0 (just VNCing to my desktop)
[21:53] <sinbox> imaginativeone, make a backup of home ,  there are several tutorials for this on the forums
[21:53] <enzotib> GodfatherofEire, take a look at man gnome-session-save
[21:53] <lwizardl> can someone point me in the correct direction for cluster configurations?
[21:53] <radar1976> ok... not alot of shells have ssh command available
[21:53] <duffydack> Ryou: sorry, i was kidding :))
[21:54] <GodfatherofEire> enzotib, thanks
[21:54] <duffydack> something to do with kernel module dependencies... not too sure WHY you run it, just know you do, when needed
[21:54] <sinbox> radar1976, pop into an internet cafe and do it from there maybe
[21:54] <DVA5912> What is a good program for my to use that has a gui for managing my HD44780 LCD screen?
[21:55] <DVA5912> i would use lcd smartie but plugins dont work
[21:55] <radar1976> I'm in timbucktoo!
[21:55] <root32> when i boot into the livecd of ubuntu, i can't visit h33t.com, same when i boot from the harddrive
[21:56] <zorrolero> radar1976: http://blog.kurthbemis.com/2008/08/25/tools-ssh-over-tor-for-secure-and-anonymous-sessions/
[21:57] <radar1976> thanks zorrolero however it is for linux.  I'm using a mac client :(
[21:57] <Steff> Anyone have experience with man in the middle attack?
[21:58] <D3RGPS31> Steff, that may be a better question for ##linux
[21:59] <Steff> D3RGPS31, Okay - thanks..
[21:59] <roca> anyone know how to change the ip address ebox looks to?
[21:59] <DVA5912> What is a good program for my to use that has a gui for managing my HD44780 LCD screen?
[22:01] <DVA5912> the reason i say this is because every one ive seen i can only have it siplay system stats. I want to to put my own stuff on it
[22:01] <DVA5912> like make it display weather or play an animation or something
[22:02] <zorrolero> radar1976: gcc is not available in your mac?
[22:02] <radar1976> not this one...I need to get X-code but I don;'t have the leopard laptop, my son is using it.
[22:03] <IntuitiveNipple> radar1976: Would a temp shell on one of my machines be sufficient?
[22:03] <DVA5912> their is no one smart on
[22:03] <D3RGPS31> While I'm on linux my bandwidth is throttled & there are some sites that always time out; http://pastebin.com/mc0f103d has it in detail
[22:04] <duffydack> DVA5912: explain your problem again........
[22:04] <DVA5912> What is a good program for my to use that has a gui for managing my HD44780 LCD screen?
[22:04] <barry> help
[22:04] <DVA5912> the reason i say this is because every one ive seen i can only have it siplay system stats. I want to to put my own stuff on it
[22:04] <duffydack> manage what..  more info
[22:04] <barry> mhm
[22:04] <DVA5912> like make it display weather or play an animation or something
[22:05] <DVA5912> i want something like lcd smartie
[22:05] <duffydack> you want weather, go outside
[22:05] <krizalid> !list
[22:05] <DVA5912> so helpful
[22:06] <DVA5912> i dont even know why i came back to ubuntu
[22:06] <radar1976> IntuitiveNipple: sure...I only need it for about 5 mins
[22:06] <fosco_> DVA5912: i can't see the relation between LCD and weather :-?
[22:06] <IntuitiveNipple> DVA5912: You can't expect someone that just happens to be in this room to know something so specific!
[22:07] <IntuitiveNipple> radar1976: pvt message me or join #Intuitive (if you aren't registered and are blocked from pvt msg)
[22:07] <krizalid> i think he wants to put weather info on a keyboard LCD or something
[22:07] <DVA5912> no but he wanted to know
[22:07] <sinbox> DVA5912, something like conky?
[22:07] <DVA5912>  i think im just over worked
[22:07] <Tiwalun> /msg nickserv register hagre460 dominik.boehi@gmail.com
[22:08] <hspaans> DVA5912: search for "lcdproc"
[22:08] <IntuitiveNipple> DVA5912: That doesn't mean he has the answer, just that he wanted to know what your question was :)
[22:08] <DVA5912> got that
[22:08] <streenz> DVA5912, google brought this:  "How to control a HD44780-based Character-LCD "   http://home.iae.nl/users/pouweha/lcd/lcd.shtml
[22:08] <DVA5912> holy crap when i dont wnat anything everyone jumps in
[22:08] <Hilikus> is it possible to mount blank dvds???
[22:08] <hspaans> Hilikus: no
[22:08] <barry> #join quizer
[22:08] <IntuitiveNipple> DVA5912: sounds like something you should try coding yourself!
[22:09] <barry> #join quiz
[22:09] <barry> kurwa
[22:09] <Ryou> what is ndiswrapper?
[22:09] <Dvyjones> When doing a backup, I should only need to backup the /home directory, /etc and the HDD files for a virtual machine I'm running?
[22:09] <hspaans> DVA5912: second time, lcdproc should support a HD44780
[22:10] <DVA5912> it does. I dont know how though to code stuff to the program if i did id have fun
[22:10] <duffydack> DVA5912:  you need to explain better what exactly you want.. everyone is guessing
[22:10] <hspaans> then learn to code
[22:10] <kholerabbi> Hey I was trying to install ubuntu intrepid on a usb-hdd... unfortunately I broke grub on sda. So I boot from my inbuilt hard drive and get 'loading grub........... ERROR 21'..
[22:10] <DVA5912> WHERE DO I PUT THE DAMN FILES
[22:11]  * hspaans goes back to ST5
[22:11] <DVA5912> im cool now
[22:11] <francos> ff
[22:13] <redvamp128> quick question-- anyone had any issues installing and running ies4linux? 8.04 Ubuntu?
[22:13] <duffydack> redvamp128: yeah, it ran ie
[22:13] <D3RGPS31> While I'm on linux my bandwidth is throttled & there are some sites that always time out; http://pastebin.com/mc0f103d has it in detail >.>
[22:14] <duffydack> like what ?
[22:14] <redvamp128> no side effects?
[22:14] <Jack_Sparrow> redvamp128, Last I heard #Winehq would not help you if you had used it.
[22:14] <redvamp128> I have wine 1.1.10
[22:14] <puppiesRcute> Any one know if i can recover my old install of ubuntu installed it to my new hdd and it will not load up the old install
[22:14] <redvamp128> still waiting on 1.1.11 to show up on apt
[22:14] <duffydack> redvamp128:  i run the stable wine from std repos
[22:14] <Jack_Sparrow> puppiesRcute, boot a livecd and save your /home to a usb stick
[22:14] <duffydack> upto date wine from winehq might break stuff.
[22:15] <puppiesRcute> il try will a 8 gig be big enough
[22:15] <Jack_Sparrow> puppiesRcute, You can do it multipole times if not..
[22:15] <duffydack> i`ll only use new wine`s if i have a prob with something.. try that
[22:15] <redvamp128> I added the get current version -- just have to run a command to get it to release the wine and grab the new one
[22:16] <Jack_Sparrow> puppiesRcute, 8 should be, but only you know how much stuff you have.. 8 gig here would not hold my directory listing
[22:16] <hspaans> D3RGPS31: solves this your issue? : echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn
[22:16] <Stormcr0w_> Hello all. I've just recently upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10 and also installed the kubuntu-desktop packages. At the end of the installation it asked me which display manager I want to use and I selected kdm. After restarting, I logged back on to my Gnome session, but since then, the component with my name and log off/shutdown options on the top right-hand corner has disappeared. Any ideas?
[22:16] <puppiesRcute> k had so many problems didnt know where to start first  accidentally deleted my windows then my bootloader then installed it again and it stopped my old install from even showing up im blond
[22:16] <Biovore> gnome logout only works with gdm
[22:16] <duffydack> Stormcr0w_:  yeah, kdm is kde and gdm is gnome
[22:17] <D3RGPS31> hspaans: 0 >.>
[22:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Stormcr0w_, where you login under options you should be able to get back to gdm login
[22:17] <puppiesRcute> think i need a bigger flash drive i think my old install was 15 gig
[22:18] <Stormcr0w_> Jack_Sparrow: I ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[22:18] <nto> Hiya, I have a lot of rar files I wanna extract. Does anyone know how to write a bash command that'll let it execute unrar -x a001.rar to a060.rar?
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> puppiesRcute, even if you take the 8 gig dump it into a diff machine and do it twice you will have saved your data
[22:18] <redvamp128> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[22:18] <duffydack> nto:  sounds like they are part of a volume set....
[22:18] <nto> duffydack: they're not.
[22:18] <redvamp128> that is how you get back your gnome style login
[22:18] <stovicek> nto: rar x *.rar .
[22:19] <tripitakit> !cluster
[22:19] <Stormcr0w_> Jack_Sparrow: But even after redefining the display manager back to gdm and restarting, when I log back on to GNOME, I still cannot see the missing component
[22:19] <hspaans> puppiesRcute: 64GB is becoming cheap
[22:19] <redvamp128> I ran into that issue -- after installing Kubuntu-desktop
[22:19] <duffydack> Stormcr0w_:  try adding it to the panel
[22:19] <puppiesRcute> that might work only prob is the other hdd its on wont let me access it because of permissions
[22:19] <nto> stovicek: I tried that but that makes unrar say "No files to extract" even though it finds the right archive.
[22:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Stormcr0w_, see hspaans  info
[22:20] <Jack_Sparrow> puppiesRcute, permissions are not hard to get around since you have physical access
[22:20] <puppiesRcute> tried it this blonds stuck though got to read up on it more
[22:20] <tripitakit> which clustering fits wiht ubuntu? i've little experience with opnemosix and redhat...
[22:20] <puppiesRcute> tried every way to bypass them
[22:21] <Jack_Sparrow> puppiesRcute, a dangerous command is gksudo nautilus.. it will  let you do anything, even if it is wrong..
[22:21] <Stormcr0w_> Jack_Sparrow: Do you mean duffydack's?
[22:21] <redvamp128> tried the selection of cmd prompt only -- safe repair mode only then try that command
[22:21] <Stormcr0w_> duffydack: adding it to the panel? from where?
[22:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Stormcr0w_, yes
[22:21] <puppiesRcute> tried nautilus couldnt get it to work some error saying would always pop up
[22:21] <hspaans> Jack_Sparrow: me?
[22:22] <duffydack> try selecting all the rars and extract here
[22:22] <duffydack> works for me
[22:22] <nto> it's not what I'm looking for though
[22:22] <duffydack> i mean, i just tested it with 3 archives i made
[22:22] <nto> it'll make a lot of uneccessary directories
[22:22] <Jack_Sparrow> duffydack, I thought he was trying to write a script to  do it.. and for that he should /j #BASH
[22:22] <sinbox> puppiesRcute, you tried changing the permissions from a live cd?
[22:23] <nto> it'll make a dir named a001 a002 and so on with the archive contents inside
[22:23] <puppiesRcute> but il try later all blows a kiss to every one for the help ;)
[22:23] <duffydack> well, when i extracted, there were not any dirs
[22:23] <meoblast001> do i need to restart Ubuntu to start new kernel modules?
[22:23] <puppiesRcute> tried it all seems like im not good with computers its not my forte
[22:23] <nto> does your archives contain multiple files?
[22:23] <Jack_Sparrow> puppiesRcute, You will be fine, there is usually good help around
[22:23] <stovicek> nto: make sure you use x and not -x as the first is the extract command and second is an exclusion switch
[22:23] <Stormcr0w_> redvamp128: How did you resolve this?
[22:23] <puppiesRcute> k i might be back later on most certain about it
[22:23] <duffydack> no just 1..  the same file, 3 times
[22:23] <nto> stovicek: aye, if I don't pass in a wildcard it works
[22:24] <nto> google tells me I'm not the only one having the problem
[22:24] <D3RGPS31> While I'm on linux my bandwidth is throttled & there are some sites that always time out; http://pastebin.com/mc0f103d has it in detail; God, Zues, Linus, someone solve this :/
[22:24] <nto> doesn't give me a solution though :<
[22:24] <nto> oh well I'll just make a quick ol' python script then :<
[22:24] <Jack_Sparrow> D3RGPS31, Wired or wireless and have you checked the compatability of your hardware?
[22:25] <D3RGPS31> wired
[22:25] <D3RGPS31> yes
[22:25] <Jack_Sparrow> D3RGPS31, Realtec by chance
[22:25] <duffydack> yeah, i see what you mean now... pretty gay considering windows can do it
[22:25] <D3RGPS31> Jack_Sparrow: no, RealTek xD
[22:25] <Stormcr0w_> The first time, there was also an error: 'The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet"'
[22:25] <Jack_Sparrow> D3RGPS31, encrypted or open network?
[22:26] <D3RGPS31> Jack_Sparrow: open
[22:26] <luckyone> I am debating purchasing an ASUS AH3650 (ATI video card) how dumb am I acting by doing that?
[22:26] <Biovore> D3RGPS31: Could be a IPV6 problem.. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-87798.html
[22:26] <D3RGPS31> Biovore: disabled
[22:26] <Jack_Sparrow> D3RGPS31, Did I guess right on realtec card?
[22:26] <ameed> Hello , Does anyone know how i can setup a mail server on Ubuntu
[22:26] <D3RGPS31> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[22:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !lamp
[22:26] <Jack_Sparrow> D3RGPS31, Hold for a sec
[22:26] <sinbox> ameed, you a spammer?
[22:27] <D3RGPS31> Jack_Sparrow: wait, "Intel Corporation 82567LF-2 Gigabit Network Connection"
[22:27] <kholerabbi> "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device." this is the error I get when I try and after I try 'grub-install /dev/sda7'............ this doesn't make sense as /dev/sda7 is mounted and contains a /boot directory..................... pleasseee help
[22:27] <ameed> no
[22:27] <ameed> sinbox: i have ubuntu server
[22:28] <ameed> in our office network
[22:28] <ameed> and we want to see if we can use a mail server on Ubuntu
[22:28] <harleypig> ubottu: techinically, the p used to stand for perl, but now it stands for perl/python/php
[22:28] <ameed> instead of paying hosting fees
[22:28] <LogicalDash> I've got my GNOME session set up to launch Firefox and Thunderbird, but they're not always actually launching. Why not?
[22:28] <harleypig> oops
[22:28] <sinbox> was only a joke ameed ;-)
[22:28] <Stormcr0w_> I have reinstalled the gnome applets, I will try restarting
[22:28] <justizin> hi folks, my gnome power management prefs are set to suspend when battery is crtically low.  any ideas how to change the threshold?  it seems just to die.
[22:28] <ameed> sinbox : :)
[22:29] <Jack_Sparrow> D3RGPS31, If it were realtek.. Speed issue: "force" the speed with sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M to get decent speed (by default i get 1MB/s)
[22:29] <ameed> sinbox: Any idea ?
[22:29] <justizin> ameed: running a mail server is a pain in the butt, and if you put it on broadband versus a backbone-connected network, a lot of mail systems will reject mail from you.
[22:29] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl
[22:29] <ameed> right now we have mail.telejood.com
[22:29] <xteejx> Hey all I'm having problems upgrading to Jaunty alpha
[22:29] <xteejx> W:Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/Release  Unable to find expected entry  partner/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[22:29] <xteejx> , W:Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-security/Release  Unable to find expected entry  partner/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[22:29] <xteejx> , E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[22:29] <sinbox> !lamp | ameed
[22:29] <FloodBot1> xteejx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:29] <duffydack> nto: find -type f -name '*.rar' -exec unrar e {} \;  would do it
[22:30] <xteejx> Sorry guys about the "flood" its 3 lines...didnt see the point in using pastebin
[22:30] <ameed> sinbox: are you just like me
[22:30] <justizin> ameed: how many mail users do you have?  honestly, i have moved a lot of my clients to free google hosting, except for mail lists.  perhaps you can find a more efficient hosted solution, or rent a virtual server with ubuntu and run a mail server there - being on broadband is the *biggest* potential problem with what you're looking at doing.
[22:30] <ameed> sinbox: i mean like a user or you work with Ubuntu
[22:30] <ameed> :)
[22:31] <evans> hello, I have a few small, noobish questions about the handling of webcams in ubuntu
[22:31] <schooladmin> kudos go to IntuitiveNipple  for assisting me on getting my issue resolved.
[22:31] <ameed> sinbox: This is my plan but first i was worried before we rent a server to make sure we know how to set it up
[22:31] <nto> duffydack: thanks a lot, I'll use that
[22:31] <sinbox> mostly a user ameed, I know nothing about mail server I'm afraid except: you want to have it well secured because of spammer hacking it.
[22:32] <doug3> what is the best version on ubuntu for my eeepc 1000h and how can i get it installed with USB stick
[22:32] <sinbox> justizin talking about mailinglists what would you recommend for those?
[22:32] <justizin> ameed: a lot of running a mail system you can only know through experience.
[22:32] <ameed> sinbox: so you recommend i go for a ready mail server and pay for it instead of this correct ?
[22:32] <ozzloy> doug3: search for eeebuntu
[22:32] <evans> doug3: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/12/28/tips-on-installing-ubuntu-710-to-the-eeepc/
[22:32] <duffydack> nto:  np..  it`ll extract without paths, just tested
[22:33] <moijk> Last time I installed qmail + imap server I promised myself I'll walk on hot lava before doing it again.
[22:33] <evans> hello, I have a few small, noobish questions about the handling of webcams in ubuntu
[22:33] <joaopinto> ameed, unless you are ready to deal with spam, you would be better server by using the google services
[22:33] <justizin> sinbox: we use mailman, there are many good f/oss solutions.  i'm looking at moving to 'listen' which is more like a google / yahoo groups style solution, forum and ML hybrid.
[22:33] <doug3> evans: i dont want 7.10, i want 8.10
[22:33] <joaopinto> served
[22:33] <luckyone> ameed: I installed postfix, dovecot, and postfix-admin pretty quickly
[22:34] <meoblast001> i need some help recording my screen and having it be detected as a webcam.... how do i do this?
[22:34] <evans> doug3: http://www.eeebuntu.org/index.php?page=nbr
[22:34] <biggerfisch> evans: ask the questions then
[22:34] <IntuitiveNipple> ameed: Postfix is pretty useful and easy to manage if you use something like Webmin. Dovecot for IMAP/POP3, procmail for mail-sorting rules.
[22:34] <luckyone> ameed: you need to make sure you aren't running this off of a cable modem though you will get blocked
[22:34] <ameed> luckyone: does it have a web interface?
[22:34] <sinbox> I'll look into thos Justizin thanks
[22:34] <ozzloy> doug3: eeebuntu.org is based on 8.10
[22:34] <luckyone> ameed: postfix-admin is the web interfac
[22:34] <ameed> how can i install it
[22:34] <justizin> ameed: i suggest learning to run a personal domain or something, you can get a vm around for like USD$20/mo now, don't risk disconnecting everyone at your company from their email.  also, google hosted is free for up to 20 users or somewhat, and offers increased spam protection from postini for something like $6/user/year
[22:35] <luckyone> ameed: it is not just a install one package and you go
[22:35] <evans> biggerfish: i have a logitech easycam, it remains undetected by any means i can find, and i have no video0 folder
[22:35] <Brucevdk> Question, I have a couple of icons I want to install system wide but I want them to install into a seperate icon theme and not hicolor or gnome. At the moment I can only use the icons from that theme if I switch to it. Is it possible to make use it next to my current theme?
[22:35] <evans> biggerfish: *quickcam
[22:35] <ameed> i have postfix and webmin
[22:35] <Wobert> Can anyone tell me what file i need to change in order to change the source for apt ?
[22:35] <ameed> and sendmail
[22:35] <ameed> too
[22:35] <luckyone> I would use postfix over sendmail
[22:35] <ameed> Apache , MySQL installed on the server
[22:35] <moijk> wobert: change /etc/apt/sources.list with any editor you want
[22:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !webmin > ameed
[22:36] <The_Joe_> Can someone give me modelines for a standard CRT monitor?
[22:36] <Wobert> moijk, ty ftp.debian.org is standart ?
[22:36] <biggerfisch> evans: go to the ubuntu wiki ( wiki.ubuntu.com ) and search form "webcams". not all webcams are supported
[22:36] <Wobert> moijk, for ubuntu, i am having trouble upgrading from 7 -> 7.10
[22:36] <Jack_Sparrow> The_Joe_, You need to find ones for YOUR monitor,  you can ruin a crt with the wrong rates.
[22:36] <justizin> ameed: read a tutorial on configuring it.  it's not easy to do properly.  if you don't want to pay a professional to run your mail system, and you don't know how, please don't make it easier for other people to spam the rest of us, and use a free service. ;)
[22:37] <justizin> an improperly configured mail system is like an unlocked gun case
[22:37] <The_Joe_> Jack_Sparrow, I know they work - I had them before I reinstalled just now, I seem to have lost them
[22:37] <Daejeo> is there any list of compatible Bluetooth Dongles with CSR chip for ubuntu ?
[22:37] <hansel> The_Joe - check this out... http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=Linux+X+xorg.conf+mode+lines+CRT
[22:37] <luckyone> everyone, thoughts on ATI video cards in Ubuntu? are they still as painful as they used to be?
[22:37] <moijk> Wobert: no archives.ubuntu.com is on ubuntu
[22:37] <The_Joe_> hansel, Thanks - I will
[22:37] <Juhaz> damading even remotely recent crt with wrong modes is highly unlikely, they all have protective electronics
[22:37] <moijk> wobert: and your favorite country prefix
[22:38] <ameed> hehe :) ok i was just trying to make a stable mail server for our domain ( telejood.com ) we are using communigate and we pay alot for hosting it , looking for a better cheaper solution
[22:38] <Juhaz> if it's a museum piece, though...
[22:38] <Jack_Sparrow> The_Joe_, the point is, there is no one set for any monitor... and guessing with a crt can lead to disaster
[22:38] <The_Joe_> Jack_Sparrow, The point is - they worked before
[22:38] <luckyone> ameed: build the server, it isn't hard
[22:38] <Wobert> moijk, nice, I am trying to use : sudo vim /ect/apt/sources.list
[22:38] <Wobert> moijk, but its empty ?
[22:38] <justizin> ameed: yah, i totally understand, which is why i asked how many users you have and if free hosting at google with IMAP and POP and Jabber for 20 people for free would suffice you.
[22:38] <hspaans> luckyone: there is a lot of progress for ati/amd support, see the x.org site for the latest details
[22:39] <justizin> if that wouldn't suffice you, we can have a longer conversation, but the answer to your original question is, "please, don't" ;)
[22:39] <Brucevdk> Nevermind, there's a GTK function to append directories to the search path instead
[22:39] <moijk> wobert: etc, not ect
[22:39] <ameed> justizin : we have about 30 users now
[22:39] <The_Joe_> hansel, Oh...
[22:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Juhaz, I have seen a few of those museum pieces, expecially from old CAD schools and people still use them because they are  big.. and free.
[22:39] <Wobert> moijk, lol my bad
[22:39] <justizin> get ameedisthebest.org and run your own personal email for a year, then tell me you want to deal with it for your company ;)
[22:39] <hansel> The_Joe - any time... any time...
[22:39] <CaptWho> say, what are the names of some national chains where i might be able to find a RJ-45 cable tester.  I'm specifically in Madison Wisconsin and I'm not holding out hopes for Best Buy or Circuit City. something like Graybar would be nice,, but there's not one here.
[22:39] <The_Joe_> hansel, Don't you think I'd search before asking?
[22:40] <Ryou> hi, how can i get ndiswrapper to load automatically at startup?
[22:40] <Juhaz> Jack_Sparrow, indeed they do.
[22:40] <hansel> The_Joe, are you insinuating google doesn't have the answer to this?
[22:40] <ameed> Ok , lets say i get the domain ameed.com what next do i do ? install postfix-admin and configure my domain etc.. and thats it ?
[22:40] <denny> ameed: I used fastmail.fm at a previous company, they seemed to have a fairly good service iirc
[22:40] <The_Joe_> I am
[22:40] <clouder`grr> in the fast user switcher on the top panel.  How can I remove a user from showing up in there?
[22:40] <hansel> The_Joe - I will bet you $10,000 USD it does.
[22:40] <hansel> Give me the exact make and model of your CRT.
[22:40] <vermont> can anyone tell me how to convert .ogg files. Sound Converter won't do it.
[22:40] <The_Joe_> hansel, Can't use dollars here
[22:40] <justizin> ameed: find a tutorial, there are a ton of considerations.  your question reveals a lack of understanding about the underlying challenges.
[22:41] <The_Joe_> hansel, I don't know - that's why I used standard modelines
[22:41] <justizin> like, you need to read about what this entails, and then come to us with a question other than "do i just install postfix and bada-bing, i'm in email?" the answer is, yes, probably, but you might also be a bad internet citizen, or have one of a thousand various problems an email system can have.
[22:41] <Slart> CaptWho: where in the world are you? I guess national chains isn't the same for you as it is for me =)
[22:42] <justizin> i totally encourage you to learn, just saying, you're basically asking us for permission, not information.  do whatever you want, but inform yourself, please, before you open a relay that johnny spammer can use to drive up my bandwidth and hosting costs. ;)
[22:42] <T`2> anyone know how to make audio from back ports work? i can only get it to work from the front ports on my PC
[22:42] <denny> T`2: in that case you almost certainly have a cable not connected inside your machine  :)
[22:43] <denny> although usually that goes the other way around
[22:43] <ameed> justizin: Thanks alot guys , am new to Linux and trying to learn - am sorry if i was a pain :)
[22:43] <evans> Webcam problems, my webcam is detected, lsusb results in Bus 001 Device 002: ID 046d:08f6 Logitech, Inc. Quickcam Messenger Plus
[22:43] <T`2> dennda, no its a HD audio card.. in windows i can select which ports to select output to
[22:43] <evans> but no programs see it
[22:43] <denny> do you know if the rear ports are directly on the motherboard, or mounted on an extender slot?
[22:43] <T`2> denny* i mean
[22:43] <denny> ah, so the rear ports work in Windows?
[22:43] <T`2> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
[22:43] <T`2> denny, yup
[22:44] <T`2> denny, i see the read ports volume controls in ubuntu too.. but it seems like alsa is using the front ports PCM as default
[22:44] <T`2> i dont know how to make alsa use the back ones as default
[22:44] <T`2> basically from hardware point of view, it seems to be like i have two sound cards
[22:44] <meoblast001> why cant i change settings in Adobe Flash
[22:44] <meoblast001> for webcam and stuff
[22:44] <meoblast001> it just crashes
[22:44] <CaptWho> slart: i'm in madison wisconsin, usa
[22:45] <The_Joe_> Soooo does anyone have those modelines..?
[22:45] <D3RGPS31> Bandwidth Throttling & Site Timeout problem; details: http://pastebin.com/mc0f103d
[22:45] <justizin> ameed: no worry, not a pain, i just don't want to answer "yes" to one of your questions and find you crying in a week, or start seeing spam from viagra@ameedisthebest.com on my servers, in which case I'd have to hunt you down. :-P
[22:45] <Slart> CaptWho: oh.. can't help you with the shopping then.
[22:45] <sinbox> ask in #alsa  T`2
[22:46] <T`2> ah.. ok thanks
[22:46] <ameed> hehe , i understand
[22:46] <ameed> I will search more
[22:46] <sinbox> The_Joe_, if it was working before look for some xorg.conf backup files there usually are a few
[22:46] <Daejeo> is there any list of compatible Bluetooth Dongles with CSR chip for ubuntu ?
[22:46] <The_Joe_> sinbox, Yes - on a previous install
[22:47] <CaptWho> if someone had the names of some national chains, i could research them and find out if one is local
[22:47] <meoblast001> Flash fails
[22:47] <justizin> also, if you're going to switch mail servers, plan in advance, drop your DNS TTL to 5min a week in advance for the MX and related records, and come up with a strategy for forwarding mail that may be misdelivered to the old system after the move.  i had a client completely abandon a mail migration because they hired some idiots who basically deleted the CEO's mail and left everyone else without email for 2 days.
[22:47] <sinbox> ah ok <T`2> sory but no idea then try and look for specs of your monitor
[22:48] <jim_p> has anyone used lxde?
[22:49] <eleftherios> I need to install 8.10 in a different language (the whole system language rather than input language). Can I do the whole installation/configuration in English and then switch languages as if I had chosen that language from install time?
[22:49] <epona_> hi
[22:50] <Tobberoth> By god, I can't get my Broadcom wireless to work on Ubuntu 8.10..
[22:50] <justizin> eleftherios: i don't know for sure, but it seems that you may at least have to install additional message catalogs or somesuch.
[22:50] <epona_> how to access a usb drive which is pluged to an ubuntu server, there's nothing in /media ?
[22:50] <sidewalk> im having problems with Ubuntu 8.10 running on an Asus EEE Box. I get the following error: Dec 26 22:05:44 liber kernel: [16792.153377] compiz.real[5643]: segfault at 1027
[22:50] <sidewalk> fba ip 08055c8c sp bfa41fd0 error 4 in compiz.real[8048000+34000]
[22:50] <sidewalk> Dec 26 22:05:50 liber bonobo-activation-server (dalva-8207): could not associate
[22:50] <williammanda> hello all
[22:50] <justizin> epona_: you'll probably have to mount it :)
[22:50] <sidewalk>  with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-SEUwm2TGEs: Connection refused
[22:50] <epona_> justizin: how?
[22:51] <skyjumper> why might there be more up-to-date packages on the apt source's actual site than are available via apt?
[22:51] <williammanda> I can't get connected to another computer using Vinagre....any ideas?
[22:51] <epona_> justizin: there's nothing to do it automatically ?
[22:51] <epona_> justizin: like a package to install
[22:51] <clouder`grr> How do I remove a specific user from the User Switch applet?
[22:51] <justizin> epona_: configuring something to do it automatically is more trouble than doing it by hand.  google: ubuntu disk mount and then google later changing mount to automount ;)
[22:53] <justizin> you may even have an automounter configured, but, if it didn't work, there is a fail-safe means of mounting the volume, using the mount command, if you create a mountpoint manually, and figure out the device from dmesg.
[22:53] <mib_qsvzec> can I run a windows VM without X installed?
[22:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !eeepc > sidewalk,
[22:53] <justizin> also, maybe ubuntu doesn't like your usb drive's filesystem?  how is it formatted?
[22:54] <sidewalk> Jack_Sparrow: tnx
[22:54] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[22:54] <justizin> mib_qsvzec: a VM? yes.  can you use it on the local computer? no, you would need a graphical program to display the windows GUI, unless rdesktop has started to support framebuffer output.
[22:54] <mib_qsvzec> I just need to access it remotely
[22:54] <sidewalk> Jack_Sparrow: but is it also for eee boxes, not only the laptops?
[22:54] <D3RGPS31> Bandwidth Throttling & Site Timeout problem; details: http://pastebin.com/mc0f103d
[22:54] <epona_> justizin: thanks :)
[22:54] <justizin> you should be fine.  access using vnc.
[22:54] <justizin> or virt-manager remote
[22:54] <justizin> epona_: nm.
[22:55] <mib_qsvzec> benefits of VNC over microsoft remote desktop?
[22:55] <Jack_Sparrow> sidewalk, I understood it was for all eee products.. it is different that the base ubuntu and has tweeks that should work for you
[22:55] <jim_p> mib_qsvzec, opensource protocol => cross platform
[22:56] <Karti> Hi all, anyone any idea where the Evolution error logs may be kept? Many thanks
[22:56] <Jack_Sparrow> mib_qsvzec, Try asking in offtopic..
[22:56] <Fzang> is there any any difference between ubuntu and kubuntu, besides the desktop enviroment? Any at all?
[22:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Fzang, that is quite a bit of diference...
[22:56] <ark_> Fzang: The name? ;)
[22:56] <mib_qsvzec> ok how would I start the VM and route the remote desktop connection to it?
[22:57] <jim_p> Fzang, no . kde and gnome is their main difference, they are identical under the hood
[22:57] <bizkwet> hi, i have installed compiz fusion, checked some boxes, although i don't know how to know that it works :)
[22:57] <Fzang> so there's no hardware difference, package managing or anything?
[22:57] <Jack_Sparrow> bizkwet, ctrl  - alt left mouse and move mouse
[22:57] <Fzang> hardware compatibility*
[22:57] <jim_p> bizkwet, grab a window from the title bar and bounce it around
[22:57] <justizin> mib_qsvzec: depends on the vm tech, typically with libvirt there is a vnc server on the host, somehow you can get that data.  put it on the network for rdesktop.
[22:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Fzang, there are few instances where one will work and the other wont on the same hardware
[22:58] <Asterisky> Hi, I have a Win-TV card. anda few Macs. What I want to do is 1. Installl this card under Ubuntu, 2. streem tv from the card to the Macs. Is this possible?
[22:58] <bizkwet> tnx :)
[22:58] <sidewalk> Jack_Sparrow: tnx mate :P
[22:58] <Jack_Sparrow> sidewalk, hope it helps..
[22:58] <jim_p> Jack_Sparrow, what wont work on kde that will work on gnome?
[22:58] <justizin> virt-manager should be able to connect remotely mib_qsvzec and give you enough to get off the ground.
[22:58] <pikario> cool
[22:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Asterisky, I would assume it is possible, but out of the scope of ubuntu - support.. perhaps mythtv or one of those
[22:59]  * justizin has never heard of hardware running X, but not running a particular desktop environment, window manager, etc..
[23:00] <Jack_Sparrow> jim_p, YOu would need to search the logs for people that had something work in one and not in the other.... like I said we see it occasionally but no rhyme or reason to it
[23:00] <Fzang> jim_p: gnome designed apps probably, I once couldn't get Ark to work in gnome
[23:00] <Fzang> or are we talking hardware?
[23:02] <allquixotic> Does anyone know how to set up a local DNS cache? I would like to have a program running locally that will store DNS lookups from the upstream server on my ISP, because the ISP's lookups take 10+ seconds, and they appear uncached... visiting the same site twice consecutively still leads to slow lookups twice.
[23:02] <Asterisky> What is the most basic gnome you can get?
[23:02] <jim_p> Jack_Sparrow, oh ok
[23:02] <mortuis99> !skype
[23:02] <jim_p> Asterisky, gnome-core
[23:02] <blbrown> does anyone have ubuntu on a macbook and connect to wireless broadband ATT, TMOBILE, etc.  Do they work?
[23:03] <Asterisky> I have it in a vm on a Macbook
[23:03] <urbanmonkey> blbrown: i have one from Rogers in Canada running on a Lenovo X60, and it works just fine
[23:03] <hspaans> allquixotic: how does your search domain look like?
[23:03] <sidewalk> Jack_Sparrow: its my moms eee box :-)
[23:03] <urbanmonkey> blbrown: i don't know what devices that any of the US provider are offering though
[23:03] <unop_> allquixotic, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/08/02/local-dns-cache-for-faster-browsing/
[23:03] <nitai> whats the easiest way of making my own ubuntu cd , it doesnt have to be live it just needs to be a copy of what im running ( Themes ,WM , Wallpaper , Icons) ?
[23:03] <blbrown> Asterisky, why a VM?
[23:03] <jim_p> Asterisky, it only contains gedit, panels, nautilus, metacity, a minimal set of themes and control panel
[23:04] <benjick_> Hey, i get this when i try to run ioquake "./ioquake3.i386: error while loading shared libraries: libopenal.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" i've installed libopenal but still wont help
[23:04] <pikario> hi
[23:04] <sidewalk> Jack_Sparrow: trying to get Ubuntu running smoothly for her, so that she doesnt need to worry about viruses :P
[23:04] <blbrown> urbanmonkey, I saw one at ATT called USB Att quicksilver?  Shrug.  I wish I could test it in the store first
[23:04] <unop_> !remaster > nitai
[23:04] <CAP5029> oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[23:04] <allquixotic> hspaans: DHCP only gives me one DNS server, and that server responds etc, but it's slow. So it's not trying to contact a server and failing. :) Nice idea though.
[23:04] <urbanmonkey> blbrown: if it's from Novotel, it SHOULD work
[23:04] <CAP5029> =0 1240 usuarios
[23:04] <urbanmonkey> blbrown: most of their devices support a 2.6 kernel
[23:04] <adrenaline> Anybody know how to unlock users-admin?
[23:05] <blbrown> urbanmonkey, cool
[23:05] <pikario> hi
[23:05] <hspaans> allquixotic: I'm asking about your search domain not your nameservers
[23:05] <Asterisky> It is in a VM because that way I can test things on it. I am VIP and develope VIP apps so I need to test them
[23:05] <adrenaline> I can't start it as root adn I don't have change rights as a user
[23:05] <pikario> coo
[23:05] <blbrown> urbanmonkey, what about tmobile?  Or is that the same thing
[23:05] <unop_> allquixotic, you are not obliged to use a particular DNS server. you can use any public dns server
[23:05] <xurxod> ﻿when I click on the transmission launcher, i get an error message that says: Another copy of Transmission is already running. Usually I would click on the transmission icon on the upper right hand corner of the top panel, but i no longer use a top panel. can someone please help me?
[23:06] <urbanmonkey> blbrown: http://www.novatelwireless.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=74:ovation-mc950d-72-usb-modem-hsdpahsupa-networks&catid=3&Itemid=10
[23:06] <allquixotic> hspaans: I'm not sure what a search domain is.
[23:06] <urbanmonkey> blbrown: that's the one that Rogers in Canada offers
[23:06] <blbrown> urbanmonkey, yea, looks like the att one.  I was shopping for tmobile too.  hmm
[23:07] <Asterisky> Hi, In Gnome-core, what can I do to get it to autologin and then launch keosk Firefox. I am making a custome cd
[23:07] <unop_> allquixotic,  grep -i search /etc/resolv.conf
[23:07] <ark_> xurxod: do you have a notification area in your lower panel? if not, insert one...
[23:07] <__MAV> Hello everybody !
[23:07] <hspaans> allquixotic: grep search /etc/resolv.conf
[23:07] <urbanmonkey> blbrown: i can't give you any more information other then I know the 950D works for me
[23:07] <hikenboot> hello all how do i get ubuntu server 8.1 to have the same desktop that ubuntu 8.1 workstation has just install gnome-desktop-environment and ubuntu-desktop or is there more to it?
[23:08] <__MAV> What filesystems does XEN use ?
[23:08] <jtaji> hikenboot: it's 8.10, just ubuntu-desktop package will do it
[23:08] <hspaans> allquixotic: and how do you come to the 10+ seconds? do you use dig to measure?
[23:08] <__MAV> I cannot mount it's root filesystem from my Ubuntu
[23:08] <hikenboot> so all the desktop features such as adding compiz can be triggered as normal?
[23:09] <allquixotic> unop_ and hspaans: It lists two domains. It's relevant to mention that my situation is complicated by split tunneling on a VPN. I want to access certain sites inside the VPN over the VPN connection, and all other sites outside the VPN with my raw internet connection. That part works flawlessly; I've checked the routing by asking remote servers what my public IP is, and it indeed splits the tunneling fine.
[23:09] <sinbox> allquixotic, check opendns
[23:09] <jtaji> hikenboot: it will be the same except you will still have the server kernel, which is ok
[23:09] <allquixotic> unop_, hspaans: But my search domain lists first the VPN domain, followed by the NAT domain. Both the VPN's DNS server and my router's DNS are capable of public Internet access, and both are fast if you're directly connected to the respective network.
[23:09] <Watcht> hi all I just did a fresh install of ubuntu 8.10 and used a back up of /var/apt/cache/archive from my previous install to save bandwidth on not having to download em again, i got my packages back but it seems that synaptic shows what is in the archives rather than the repos i have enabled, (i did sudo apt-get update already ;) ) I can still install programs in cmd line but i cant see them in synaptic, anyone have any tips?
[23:10] <xurxod> ark_: all good. thank you.
[23:10] <unop_> allquixotic, when you do nslookups against your primary DNS server - are responses fast?
[23:10] <__MAV> how can I determine the file system type if I cannot mount it?
[23:10] <Guest27133> whats the name of that program that u can browse web pages in command prompt?
[23:10] <jtaji> Guest27133: links
[23:10] <will00> whats a good bittorrent client with a web interface?
[23:10] <unop_> __MAV, file -s /dev/sdXX
[23:11] <__MAV>  unop: thank you, i'll try
[23:11] <Guest27133> ty..........sigh i guess i cant use that until i fix my problem
[23:11] <justizin1> will00: apt-cache search torrent | grep web
[23:11] <allquixotic> unop_: What is the command line switch to tell nslookup which dns server to query?
[23:12] <hikenboot> one last question for the night how do i restart the restriced driver wizard again apparently it didnt install the best restricted driver out of the three available
[23:12] <onetinsoldier> Watcht: that is.... very interesting. perhaps it a gpg key thing? i mean, i don't know, i would have expected things to be all hunky-dory if i had done what you have
[23:12] <__MAV> /dev/sdb2: data
[23:12] <__MAV> /dev/sdb2 data
[23:12] <allquixotic> unop_: The man page is not very descriptive... a plain old `nslookup www.google.com` is slow, but it's not telling me which DNS server it used.
[23:12] <unop_> allquixotic, in the nslookup shell ..   server ns1.example.com
[23:12] <__MAV> not very informative
[23:12] <D3RGPS31> I can view a website on Mac & Windows but I can't view it on Ubuntu, >.< (http://pastebin.com/mc0f103d)
[23:12] <IntuitiveNipple> allquixotic: Try using dig @server name
[23:13] <hspaans> allquixotic: use dig to check, it can give you all the details
[23:13] <sinbox> Guest27133, it's lynx not links
[23:13] <__MAV> I've tried fdisk
[23:13] <__MAV> it says filesystem is Linux
[23:13] <hikenboot> never mind figured it out
[23:13] <IntuitiveNipple> _MAV try using vol_id
[23:13] <__MAV> but I cannot mount it
[23:13] <__MAV> ok, Ill try
[23:13] <hagus> When I have tried doing  ... sudo dolphin ... it generates the following error ... sudo: must be setuid root ...
[23:14] <akorpija> hey guys i want to upgrade my laptop's hard drive, so i'm wondering if anybody knows any programs that can copy both my NTFS and EXT3 and SWAP partitions to the new HD? i don't feel like redoing all my settings ....
[23:14] <allquixotic> unop_, hspaans: Wow. In the nslookup shell I put in "server 192.168.1.1" (my NAT DNS) and even websites I haven't visited in forever are VERY fast.
[23:14] <jtaji> sinbox: links and lynx are different programs
[23:14] <ardchoille> !gksud | hagus
[23:14] <hagus> What have I done to lose myself as root.
[23:14] <ardchoille> !gksu | hagus
[23:14] <IntuitiveNipple> akorpija: use dd for a byte-by-byte copy
[23:14] <hagus> ty ardchoille :)
[23:15] <dgarr>  hagus what does this say: ls -l $(which sudo)
[23:15] <hspaans> allquixotic: check you nsswitch.conf for errors
[23:15] <Watcht> onetinsoldier: i dunno i mean i have some of the regular repos like community and multiverse and nothing is showing up I'd think that would still show up without gpg keys
[23:15] <unop_> allquixotic, ok, but what is your current primary DNS server?
[23:15] <Jack_Sparrow> akorpija, a live cd and the dd command will handle it..
[23:15] <hagus> ardchoille sounds like TopoftheForest to me :)
[23:15] <akorpija> IntuitiveNipple, i was looking at that but it seems quite extensive and i think i'd have to re-size these partitions, and it keeps the same UUID's so then i'd have to change those later on manually
[23:15] <allquixotic> unop_: my primary DNS server is on the NAT, I suppose, because it's the first entry in the list in /etc/resolv.conf -- right?
[23:15] <allquixotic> err
[23:15] <allquixotic> s/NAT/VPN
[23:16] <hagus> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 115136 2008-09-01 14:17 /usr/bin/sudo
[23:16] <Jack_Sparrow> akorpija, there is no way around dealing with uuids unless you  are not trying to go to a bigger drive etc
[23:16] <sinbox> ok jtaji didn't know that :) (goes to check)
[23:16] <hagus> That's the output from what you said, dgarr.
[23:16] <tet3> This: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit#What%20should%20I%20choose%20-%2032%20or%2064%20bit? doesn't mention the AMD Turion 64 that's in ym laptop, but it should work, right?
[23:16] <onetinsoldier> Watcht: yeah, i don't know, keep asking. i would be interested in seeing if anyone knows what's up there. have you taken a checked out your /etc/apt/sources.list file and made sure it looks ok?
[23:16] <unop_> allquixotic, that could be the problem - if the VPN DNS server is not set to resolve external domains, it could slow things down - is that the case?
[23:16] <jtaji> sinbox: also FYI links supports https and lynx does not last time I tried ;)
[23:16] <akorpija> Jack_Sparrow, yea hmph this'll be an annoying process heh thanks tho!
[23:16] <__MAV> Tried  sudo vol_id --probe-all /dev/sdb2 but it gives no output at all
[23:17] <IntuitiveNipple> akorpija: When I copy from one drive to another, I boot the LiveCD and dd from source to destination, then extend/expand partitions on the destination, then remove the source drive, and boot from the new larger drive
[23:17] <dgarr> hagus: somehow your sudo command is not longer setuid which would show -rwsr-xr-x
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> IntuitiveNipple, He's  gone, but yes I agree.  It isnt that hard to do
[23:18] <mib_qsvzec> I uploaded a .vmx and a .vmdk to a system with no gui, vmware player is installed, is there a simple way to just run it?
[23:18] <__MAV> I know that this filesystem is mounted by XEN kernel
[23:18] <tet3> Will AMD Turion 64 work with 64-bit Ubuntu?
[23:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware > tet3
[23:18] <__MAV> maybe XEN usese it's own filesystem?
[23:18] <aoliveira> how do i set the lcd brightness on ubuntu?
[23:18] <hagus> when I run !gksud or gksud, it says command not found, ardchoille :)
[23:19] <Watcht> onetinsoldier: thanks for the suggestions :D
[23:19] <bullgard4> What is the use of the program 'Autorun Prompt' = nautilus-autorun-software %u?
[23:19] <allquixotic> unop_: Whoa. Now we're getting somewhere! I'm getting a _timeout_ when I try to resolve any Internet-facing host using a VPN-provided DNS server that `vpnc` inserts into my /etc/resolv.conf. But when I ask the very same DNS server to resolve an internal DNS name inside the VPN's network, it's instantaneous.
[23:19] <allquixotic> unop_: So, to answer your question: Yes, the VPN DNS server is _not_ set to resolve external domains. It just times out.
[23:19] <jtaji> hagus: it's gksu or gksudo
[23:19] <hagus> So how do I get setuid to be my sudo command, dgarr?
[23:20] <meoblast001> how come im getting "mjpegtools_yuv_to_v4l: failed to open output video device, aborting." every time except the first time after turning on my system when trying to use that with vloopback?
[23:20] <hagus> ah ty, jtaji
[23:20] <Lexvegas> what is the command to change the permissions on a file so that you own it, instead of root?
[23:20] <hansel> chown
[23:20] <hansel> if root owns it then           sudo chown YOU:YOU thefile
[23:20] <Flannel> Lexvegas: chmod
[23:20] <hagus> I have managed to get it to accept my user (self) as root.
[23:20] <Flannel> Lexvegas: oh, nevermind.
[23:21] <__MAV> how can i read the contens of a drive in a hex view
[23:21] <Lexvegas> hansel, Flannel Thanks!
[23:21] <__MAV> jut like DiskEditor from Norton Utilities
[23:21] <__MAV> or like so
[23:21] <allquixotic> unop_: It seems like if I ask my NAT's DNS to resolve something inside the VPN, I'm gonna get a timeout or error; and if I ask the VPN's DNS to resolve something outside the VPN, I'm gonna get a timeout or error. So I have to choose whether I want to wait for Internet DNS queries or VPN DNS queries?...
[23:21] <IntuitiveNipple> __MAV: Use dd: dd if=/dev/sdb2 bs=512 count=16 | hexdump -C | less
[23:22] <aoliveira> how do i set the lcd brightness on ubuntu?
[23:22] <__MAV> IntuitiveNipple: Thank you
[23:22] <bizthepirate1> Ok, I followed the ubuntu wiki entry on GRUB so I could boot into my Vista install, but when I select the option in GRUB, my computer just restarts
[23:22] <dgarr> hagus:  don't know -- it's a real problem as the root account does not have a pw and you need setuid sudo to do root tasks.  do you know how the permissions on sudo were altered?
[23:22] <jagggy> ey guys, any could tell me how to open gnome's image viewer with the cli?
[23:22] <dacerd> gthumb I believe
[23:22] <IntuitiveNipple> __MAV the "count=" is the number of blocks of size "bs=" bytes to show
[23:22] <jim_p> aoliveira, on which laptop?
[23:23] <aoliveira> jim_p, acer 5100-5195
[23:23] <aoliveira> ops
[23:23] <__MAV> ok, it works
[23:23] <aoliveira> 5100-5196
[23:23] <__MAV> thank you
[23:23] <FloodBot1> aoliveira: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:23] <Stormcr0w_> Hi everyone. I've got Ubuntu 8.10 (upgrade from 8.04). I have just installed kubuntu-desktop. At the end of the install, I selected kdg as display manager. After restart, I logged back into gnome, not kde. Gnome threw an error message: The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet". I have lost the user switch applet and cannot get it back.
[23:23] <Tobberoth> hansel: Thank you SO much for the help! Now it works fine :D
[23:23] <hansel> good to hear Tobberoth.
[23:23] <aoliveira> jim_p, 5100-5196
[23:23] <alex_mayorga> hi, ubuntu boot option disappeared from GRUB, now only memtest+ and XP are present, can anyone please assist?
[23:23] <gandhii> jaggy:  look at the settings for that link in the main menu preferences screen..   or check where the file is in synaptic
[23:24] <jim_p> aoliveira, please show me a url of the laptop specifications
[23:24] <anxiolytic> I have an AMD 9850 (quad core, X4, Phenom). What motherboard would you guys recommend for max stability/performance with Ubuntu?
[23:24] <hagus> I was trying to install Eclipse PDT and the instructions in some tutorial required to change a directory under /etc/eclipse and to root, I added my own username - thought it would only apply to that directory.
[23:24]  * hagus is an idiot
[23:24] <Stormcr0w_> I have switched the display manager back to gdm, but the splash screen at startup is still kubuntu. The system still fails to remember the login screen I select. I have reinstalled gnome-applets and the fast-user-switch-applet, but still no joy. Any ideas?
[23:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !puregnome
[23:24] <Flannel> Stormcr0w_: How did you switch your display manager back to gdm?
[23:25] <hansel> !gdm
[23:25] <jim_p> anxiolytic, a non asus one. i would go gigabyte + an nvidia vga for trouble less configurations
[23:25] <aoliveira> jim_p, is it so important?
[23:25] <hansel> Stormcr0w_: so you mean to say it's still using KDM instead of GDM?
[23:25] <dgarr> hagus: what does this say: ls -l $(which sudoedit)
[23:25] <Stormcr0w_> Flannel: I did 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[23:25] <aoliveira> jim_p, it boots with the brightness at max
[23:25] <anxiolytic> jim_p: I always thought Asus was linux-friendly. All my mobos have been Asus so far
[23:25] <Jack_Sparrow> aoliveira, I too like nvidia and gigabyte mb's
[23:25] <jim_p> aoliveira, well yea, unless you can find me the module yourseld
[23:25] <anxiolytic> jim_p: thanks for the suggestions, I'll look into gigabyte
[23:25] <Flannel> Stormcr0w_: alright, and you still get kdm as login? or just the splash screen for kubuntu?
[23:25] <knuck887> so i'm' new to ubuntu. i'm not sure how it works or how to use it
[23:26] <jim_p> anxiolytic, asuses are bios unfriendly
[23:26] <asterslash> i'm having issues in firefox in ubuntu 8.10 with cookie sessions, especially google. tried creating a new profile and even erase all google cookies
[23:26] <Jack_Sparrow> aoliveira, I have a bunch of microStar which work but take a tad more convincing
[23:26] <hagus> dgarr: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 115136 2008-09-01 14:17 /usr/bin/sudoedit
[23:26] <Stormcr0w_> Flannel and hansel: I think it is only the splash screen before the login screen, which is not a big problem, to be honest
[23:26] <Jack_Sparrow> asterslash, WHich version of firefox and how was it tinstalled
[23:26] <kikokos> hi
[23:26] <aoliveira> jim_p,  lspci -k ?
[23:26] <hansel> Stormcr0w_: that isn't GDM... that is your bootsplash screen.... it's a GRUB config change
[23:26] <jagggy> any could tell me how to open gnome's image viewer with the cli?
[23:26] <kikokos> i cannot find it in google ,how to list computers in lan?
[23:27] <jim_p> anxiolytic, however, i did go for an asus on my latest build because i could not find a proper mobo with onboard nvidia
[23:27] <Tobberoth> Is it possible to change the language of Ubuntu to only affect the interface, not the terminal/keyboard etc?
[23:27] <anxiolytic> jim_p: Alright. Well the main problem is that I'm on a tight budget. I'm trying not to exceed $300 for CPU/RAM/Mobo and FHS. Right now I'm looking at no more than $100 for the mobo, and I'll meet the budget beautifully (with shipping)
[23:27] <Stormcr0w_> the biggest problem is (a) I cannot get back the lost applet (b) I cannot get gdm to remember the login screen I select
[23:27] <Flannel> Stormcr0w_: that gets changed separately, update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[23:27] <ddgoose> happy religion neutral seasons greetings all !
[23:27] <supertanker> Is there any way to see what the permissions of a file are in the ocmmand line before I try chmodding?
[23:27] <supertanker> command*
[23:27] <aoliveira> i can fix the brightness with the dimmer level
[23:27] <kikokos> ie computer/ip/ info that is on or off
[23:27] <asterslash> Mozilla Firefox 3.0.5, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2008 mozilla.org, previously installed with ubuntu
[23:27] <kikokos> ?
[23:27] <jim_p> aoliveira, how about the m3n ?
[23:27] <hansel> supertanker - ls -alh thefilename
[23:27] <kikokos> could anybody tell me
[23:27] <kikokos> ?
[23:27] <aoliveira> but i would like the ubuntu keep my brightness on boot
[23:27] <jim_p> aoliveira, can i pm you?
[23:27] <supertanker> hansel, thanks.
[23:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !info firefox
[23:28] <allquixotic> knuck887: Welcome to #ubuntu. Most of us here are users like yourself with varying levels of expertise. Did you have a specific question?
[23:28] <hspaans> anxiolytic: try the intel atom boards, the 330 is about 80 euro
[23:28] <jagggy> any could tell me how to open gnome's image viewer with the cli?
[23:28] <hspaans> jagggy: eog
[23:28] <jagggy> ty hspaans
[23:29] <phackett> hi
[23:29] <sidewalk> does anyone here run Ubuntu 8.10 on an Asus eee box?
[23:29] <asterslash> Jack_Sparrow, what do you mean ?
[23:29] <jim_p> aoliveira, anyway, look for your laptop in gentoo wiki. it has any little detail you can set and how to set. tell me if you have questions
[23:29] <anxiolytic> hspaans: needs to work w/ AMD 9850, I'd rather not get intel even if they do support amd cpus
[23:29] <bad-wire> knuck887, you have any problems or..?
[23:29] <phackett> can ubuntu be run in text mode?
[23:29] <asterslash> phackett, of course
[23:29] <jim_p> phackett, sure. ubuntu server
[23:29] <Jack_Sparrow> asterslash, Just asking which version and how it was installed.  If it was upgraded from  the firefox site and compiled yourself etc.
[23:29] <sidewalk> phackett: ctrl alt F-keys
[23:29] <asterslash> jim_p, not just server :P
[23:30] <jim_p> asterslash, what else?
[23:30] <asterslash> Mozilla Firefox 3.0.5, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2008 mozilla.org, previously installed with ubuntu
[23:30] <phackett> And how is this done?
[23:30] <dgarr> hagus:  you could probably get perms right by booting from a cd in rescue mode, mounting your partitions, and then changing permission on the sudo file: chmod 4755 /mntpoint/usr/bin/sudo   etc.  but you may have altered perms on many files accidentally
[23:30] <aoliveira> jim_p, do you know what thing on boot sets the brightness to max?
[23:30] <asterslash> jim_p, any version without x
[23:30] <Tobberoth> phackett: ctrl + alt + F3 for example
[23:30] <allquixotic> phackett: if you've already installed a graphical Ubuntu version, you can add the option "single" to the kernel command line in GRUB which will get you to a text-mode environment at boot time.
[23:30] <Flannel> phackett: What do you mean?  You want to install ubuntu without a GUI? or what?
[23:30] <hagus> OK - ty dgarr - I appreciate your help
[23:30] <Flannel> allquixotic: No, that's a bad idea.
[23:30] <Stormcr0w_> Flannel: thanks, I will have a look there to change that. Any ideas about the lost applet?
[23:30] <hagus> Thanks to you too, ardchoille :)
[23:30] <asterslash> Jack_Sparrow, Mozilla Firefox 3.0.5, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2008 mozilla.org, previously installed with ubuntu
[23:31] <aoliveira> can i recompile the kernel by myself?
[23:31] <Flannel> !kernel | aoliveira
[23:31] <dgarr> hagus:  good luck
[23:31] <hagus> ardchoille: In Gaelic, your nick means the Height of the Forest.
[23:31] <hagus> ty dgarr.
[23:31] <allquixotic> Flannel: Dropping to a TTY with ctrl+alt+F# can sometimes corrupt the display due to user modesetting Xorg drivers being buggy, this is very common. So I wouldn't recommend that any more. In single mode you don't get all those daemons starting which mostly only pertain to GUI programs in the first place.
[23:31] <jim_p> aoliveira, please have a look here          http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Acer_Aspire_1353
[23:32] <jim_p> aoliveira, Screen brightness changes work, however shortcut buttons and volume controls do not.
[23:32] <jim_p> aoliveira, i know its not the same model, but its still acer
[23:32] <Flannel> allquixotic: No.  Single user mode is always a bad idea for a regular textmode install.  You're droppedto a root shell.  Please don't recommend idiotic answers to people's questions.
[23:32] <Tobberoth> I really can't stand Swedish menues in software etc, but I need Swedish support in the terminal etc... how can I change just the interface to English?
[23:32] <hspaans> anxiolytic: that is 125W vs 8W  and about 170 euro, that is a big chunck of your $300
[23:32] <Yownanymous1> woohoo
[23:32] <svcd> anybody get a cell phone to connect to the phones internet with the eee pc . It works almost automagically with my desktop ubuntu but not the eee
[23:32] <Yownanymous1> people actually talk in this room
[23:33] <hansel> we dont talk but we often type
[23:33] <Yownanymous1> well
[23:33] <alex_mayorga> how do I regain ubuntu boot option? after a power outage only memtest+ and XP show on GRUB
[23:33] <hansel> :P
[23:33] <jim_p> Tobberoth, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales                  maybe?
[23:33] <svcd> not to me
[23:33] <Yownanymous1> my current experience with IRC
[23:33] <Flannel> Yownanymous1: This room is just for support, if you're looking for chatting, see #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:33] <svcd> :-)
[23:33] <Yownanymous1> total virtual silence
[23:33] <Yownanymous1> no I'll actually talk about ubuntu
[23:33] <Yownanymous1> that was just the little end of a rant
[23:33] <asterslash> Jack_Sparrow, Mozilla Firefox 3.0.5, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2008 mozilla.org, previously installed with ubuntu
[23:33] <anxiolytic> hspaans: 8gb of ocz RAM for $20, cpu is $147, and fan/heatsink is $40. I have around $100 left for mobo and I'm set
[23:33] <jim_p> has anyone used lxde?
[23:34] <Flannel> Yownanymous1: Even talking about Ubuntu belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic, this is purely a support channel (not a discussion channel, etc)
[23:34] <Tillotson> jim_p: yes, it's nice
[23:34] <Tillotson> jim_pused it for a while on arch
[23:34] <sidewalk> does the eee-guys have an irc channel?
[23:35] <hspaans> anxiolytic: 125W is still too much in power consumption for my taste
[23:35] <l337ingDisorder> Hey can anyone tell me how to make it so when I double-click the titlebar of a window, it maximizes/restores instead of rolling up/down ?
[23:35] <asterslash> sidewalk, #ubuntu-eeepc
[23:35] <anxiolytic> hspaans: same.. what cpu would you recommend instead?
[23:35] <Tenkawa> Is there any way in 8.10 with NetworkManager/ath5k to disable connection attempts to non configured AP connections?
[23:36] <Flannel> l337ingDisorder: If you go to windows in your preferences, theres an option for that.
[23:36] <vpew> how do you extract file x into folder y anyone?
[23:36] <Stormcr0w_> Is there a way to manually restore the lost gnome applet to the applet bar?
[23:36] <svcd> samsung phone plugged in with a usb cable in ti my ubuntu desktop will give me a cdma internet connection but will not work on eee pc using ubuntu
[23:36] <Tenkawa> I don't want it to even try to scan for AP's
[23:36] <l337ingDisorder> Flannel: Yeah I have that set to "Maximize" but it's still rolling up/down
[23:36] <hspaans> anxiolytic: 4850?
[23:36] <allquixotic> Flannel: Please don't call an answer idiotic which has merits. If you've read up much on the debate between root shell access and running 'sudo', you'd know that it can be argued both ways. Just because you have a strong opinion in one direction doesn't warrant that kind of tone. Community support isn't a one-right-answer venue; for that, people contact Canonical directly.
[23:37] <turno> Anyone know of a packaged vlc that supports mp3 encoding?
[23:37] <hansel> vpew - tar -zxvf thefile.tar.gz /over/here
[23:37] <asterslash> i'm having issues in firefox in ubuntu 8.10 with cookie sessions, especially google. tried creating a new profile and even erase all google cookies
[23:37] <Tenkawa> there a ubuntu-acer/aspire one channel on freenode too?
[23:37] <svcd> how about an ubuntu eee irc channel?
[23:37] <Flannel> allquixotic: Please follow the guidelines of this channel, that includes not giving out bad/dangerous answers.  Single-User mode is not a valid answer to "How do I get command line Ubuntu".  There are a few better (and certainly less dangerous) methods.
[23:38] <asterslash> svcd, , #ubuntu-eeepc
[23:38] <Yownanymous> isn't it a bit of a pee off when you see that the inspiron mini 9's ubuntu model only comes with 8 gig compared to the windows version's 16?
[23:38] <svcd> ty
[23:38] <asterslash> Tenkawa, #onelinux (all distributions, on Ubuntu servers
[23:38] <hansel> Tenkawa: you can configure that in modprobe.conf in /etc I believe for your wireless adapter... you can set a default network and disable it to scan for others.
[23:38] <Tenkawa> hansel: oooh...
[23:38] <Tenkawa> hansel: thank ya
[23:38] <Yownanymous> I got the Windows version just for the extra memory but I'm gonna dual-boot it with ubuntu probably
[23:39] <Tenkawa> didnt think about module load time parms
[23:39] <robo3> hello
[23:39] <Tenkawa> modinfo here we come
[23:39] <asterslash> i'm having issues in firefox in ubuntu 8.10 with cookie sessions, especially google. tried creating a new profile and even erase all google cookies
[23:39] <alex_mayorga> anyone that can help me get ubuntu back as a boot option on GRUB?
[23:39] <ZxPwn> anyone know why on fresh ubuntu 8.10 "bridge-utils" cannot be installed via apt ?
[23:39] <cn28h> alex_mayorga, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:40] <hansel> Tenkawa: I believe in /etc/modprobe.d/options you can put options YOURDRIVERHERE associate=0
[23:40] <alex_mayorga> cn28h: I need to get back on an ubuntu session, right?
[23:40] <Tenkawa> hansel: excellent.. thanks. much appreciated
[23:40] <alex_mayorga> only options I have now are memtest+ and XP
[23:40] <ZxPwn> it can't find it
[23:40] <asterslash> alex_mayorga, if you cant use supergrub
[23:40] <cn28h> alex_mayorga, booting from a livecd would be sufficient.  From there you can mount your ubuntu install and edit the grub config
[23:40] <ZxPwn> what source is it in?
[23:41] <ZxPwn> i mean repo
[23:41] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: You only have windows and memtest?  That is odd.  Do you remember where your linux is (what partitions, etc)? We can do it from the grub menu.  Actually, you'll likely need a liveCD anyway.
[23:41] <crashsystems> Does anyone know if it is possible to create a VM in VirtualBox on Ubuntu, and have that same VM available to each user?
[23:41] <alex_mayorga> I tried supergrub but didn't help
[23:41] <asterslash> i'm having issues in firefox in ubuntu 8.10 with cookie sessions, especially google. tried creating a new profile and even erase all google cookies
[23:41] <alex_mayorga> already tried to fix grub using alternate CD didn't help either
[23:42] <hansel> asterslash: whats happening?
[23:42] <cn28h> alex_mayorga, just a regular livecd should work fine.  Did you try mounting your ubuntu install and then looking at /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[23:42] <alex_mayorga> Flannel, ubuntu would be on hd0,1 can you help me boot from GRUB commandl please?
[23:42] <Tenkawa> cheers all
[23:42] <asterslash> hansel, my session expires after exit firefox and i have to login every time
[23:42] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: Yeah, Do you have a liveCD?
[23:43] <asterslash> hansel, checked google cookies and they are not set to expire
[23:43] <hansel> asterlash - you probably have Firefox set to erase them?
[23:43] <meoblast> how do i unmodprobe?
[23:43] <supertanker> So if I have a computer that has a *dialup modem* and I want to use it as a gateway, how would my routing table look?
[23:43] <asterslash> hansel, no
[23:43] <asterslash> hansel, checked setting too
[23:43] <cn28h> meoblast, as in remove a module? modprobe -r or rmmod
[23:43] <crashsystems> modprobe -r
[23:43] <hansel> Edit -> Preferences -> Privacy tab ... can you just verify real quick one more time?
[23:43] <asterslash> hansel, sure
[23:44] <meoblast> cn28h: FATAL: Module vloopback is in use.
[23:44] <meoblast> cn28h: i just want to stop using it
[23:44] <supertanker> Oh, wait.
[23:44] <supertanker> Nevermind.
[23:44] <meoblast> cn28h: so that i can restart it fresh
[23:44] <alex_mayorga> Flannel, cn28h, LiveCDs won't go on my system bug# 146706
[23:44] <cn28h> is this Xen?
[23:44] <asterslash> hansel, accept cookies as well as accept cookies from3rd parties is checked
[23:44] <asterslash> hansel, and keep them until expire
[23:45] <meoblast> cn28h: is what Xen
[23:45] <hansel> asterlash - how about the setting in Private Data?
[23:45] <cn28h> meoblast, was that with modprobe -r or rmmod? I like rmmod because it tells you what modules are blocking you from unloading something
[23:45] <hansel> down near the bottom of that configuration panel...
[23:45] <hansel> can you go to its details and make sure you dont clear them out?
[23:45] <sdlwof> i upgraded my ubutnu, now kernel buffer goes beserk with sda errors and I/O block errors when i hook up my phone to access the memory card contents.. never did it with the 7.x versions....usb driver problems?
[23:45] <meoblast> cn28h: modproble -r... one sec
[23:45] <_MAV> Hello again everybody ?
[23:45] <_MAV> !
[23:45] <Joelito> hi all, does any one know the release date for ubuntu 8.10.1?
[23:46] <meoblast> cn28h: same error for both
[23:46] <cn28h> k
[23:46] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: Alright.  The only thing we need to know is which version kernel you've got.  Which we can determine from within the grub menu.  Reboot, and at the grub menu hit 'c' (to get to a grub console)
[23:46] <asterslash> hansel, clean personal settings not checked and ask before erase checked
[23:46] <Flannel> Joelito: There won't be a point release for 8.10, only LTS releases have point releases
[23:46] <_MAV> How can i specify the runlevel in the GRUB menu
[23:46] <alex_mayorga> Flannel, thanks, rebooting as of now, really appreciated
[23:46] <meoblast> cn28h: the main reason why is because i have to restart my comptuer everytime i want to run this specific script i have.. and i dont want to have to anymore
[23:46] <Joelito> Flannel: ow >.< thanks
[23:46] <_MAV> what parameter shuold I add to vmlinuz or whatever
[23:46] <Flannel> _MAV: What are you trying to do?
[23:46] <hansel> asterslash - k... googling for something... hold.
[23:46] <cn28h> meoblast, lsof /dev/video*
[23:46] <_MAV> I'm trying to login to console
[23:47] <meoblast> cn28h: cuz it gives me mjpegtools_yuv_to_v4l: failed to open output video device, aborting.
[23:47] <_MAV> without going to x server
[23:47] <meoblast> cn28h: the script works on /dev/video1
[23:47] <alex_mayorga> Flannel, I'm at grub>
[23:47] <cn28h> is something else using /dev/video1?
[23:47] <meoblast> firefox 7738 braden   67u   CHR   81,0      12242 /dev/video0
[23:47] <_MAV> but i have no access to X servers configuration
[23:47] <sdlwof> http://pastebin.com/m13d8aff3  it's gotta be a USB driver problem....
[23:48] <cn28h> meoblast, hm, you may have to close firefox then to unload the module
[23:48] <meoblast> cn28h: =( the script still keeps breaking
[23:48] <meoblast> cn28h: mjpegtools_yuv_to_v4l: failed to open output video device, aborting.
[23:48] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: Alright, type (no quotes) "null (hd0,1)/vml" and then hit tab, we need to know the version number after one of the vmlinuz- entries
[23:48] <cn28h> meoblast, did it work before?
[23:48] <ZxPwn> Err. What repo does "bridge-utils" come in? I can't install it! Just gives me can't find it
[23:48] <meoblast> cn28h: the only way i've found to get this to work is to restart my computer
[23:49] <cn28h> hm
[23:49] <meoblast> cn28h: yes it works.... only once per ubuntu session
[23:49] <ZxPwn> What repo is bridge-utils in guys?
[23:49] <meoblast> cn28h: thats a problem because im debugging the script to work with my whole screen
[23:49] <Flannel> !info bridge-utils | ZxPwn
[23:49] <mike1504> Help anyone Gnome applications move like a snail in gksu, but they move normally in normal mode
[23:50] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: Error 15: File not found :(
[23:50] <Jack_Sparrow> mike1504, You should be using root to run gui apps  in  a very limited way
[23:50] <cn28h> meoblast, well, once nothing is left using /dev/video* can you unload the module?
[23:50] <ZxPwn> Flannel, i can't find the package =/
[23:50] <meoblast> cn28h: this is the script http://rafb.net/p/ctuILV17.html
[23:50] <jim_p> !wireless
[23:50] <meoblast> cn28h: yes i can
[23:50] <Flannel> ZxPwn: It's in main. Are you connected to the internet?  pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update`
[23:51] <mike1504> Jack_Sparrow it is very limited as I can't wiat long enough to do the work I need to do
[23:51] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: Alright.  Try some other hdX,Y combinations.
[23:51] <cn28h> meoblast, but even after that your script fails?
[23:51] <meoblast> yeah let me try again
[23:51] <meoblast> to make sure
[23:51] <levidos> i have a very annoying problem... when using bittorrent for an hour my wireless network disconects and i cant reconnect until i reboot my computer. init.d/networking restart is not working, nor ifconfig wlan0 up then down...  are there other ways to restart my wireless card?
[23:51] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: got lost+found var media etc cdrom bin boot dev home initrd lib mnt opt proc root sbin srv sys tmp usr on hd0,1
[23:51] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: Actually, type this: "find /vmlinuz"
[23:51] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: Oh rigt. srory
[23:52] <Jack_Sparrow> levidos, You sound like another happy comcast customer
[23:52] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: null (hd0,1)/boot/vml (then tab)
[23:52] <meoblast> cn28h: strange... now the script is hanging
[23:52] <cn28h> hm
[23:53] <levidos> Jack_Sparrow: the problem is hardware related, and I don't want to restart my computer every hour. any suggestions?
[23:53] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: only memtest86+.bin and grub under /boot :(
[23:53] <meoblast> why cant they make programs that do this for me
[23:53] <cn28h> meoblast, perhaps there's a cleaner way to make the recording end, rather than use SIGTERM?
[23:53] <meoblast> make me hack all this stuff
[23:53] <sigterm> er
[23:53] <meoblast> what about SIGTERM?
[23:53] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Is there a easy way to set up file sharing to a windows box?
[23:53] <sigterm> i dont like being used :P
[23:53] <Jack_Sparrow> levidos, Verify your hardware compatability and see if others have the same problem
[23:53] <cn28h> ;P
[23:53] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> i am totally samba newb and it looks confusing.
[23:54] <sigterm> hehe
[23:54] <cn28h> meoblast, your killall
[23:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !samba > CoUrPsE|DeAd
[23:54] <meoblast> cn28h: oh
[23:54] <meoblast> cn28h: all the other ways are more messy
[23:54] <levidos> Jack_Sparrow: i had the problem on windows, too.
[23:54] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: That's.... interesting.  Certainly not good.  You (apparently) don't have any kernels?  Is there no liveCD (maybe not a recent one, but something ese) you could boot to, so we could see exactly what all is/isn't there?
[23:54] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> ta.
[23:54] <Jack_Sparrow> levidos, If you had not noticed, this is not windows.  THere are many devices made just for windows that have no support in linux
[23:55] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: under grub there's device.map stage1 stage2 e2fs_stage1_5 fat_stage1_5 jfs_stage1_5 minix_stage1_5 reiserfs_stage1_5 xfs_stage1_5  default installed-version menu.lst and menu.lst~
[23:55] <Jack_Sparrow> levidos, If you had /have the same problem on both OS's then your hardware is suspect.
[23:55] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl
[23:55] <meoblast> cn28h: these are the days i wish i had Windows
[23:55] <Flannel> ZxPwn: And after the update, can you find it? `sudo apt-get install bridge-utils` gives what error?
[23:56] <terli> meoblast : never wish evil apon anyone, not even yourself.
[23:56] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: I seem to be able to get a prompt using rescue on an alternate CD does that help?
[23:56] <ispy_> Anyone know of a good place to find a list of extra Repositories I might be interested in?  Other than of course enabling the additional repositories within Intrepid.
[23:56] <bdelin88> server chat is empty so i am coming here, does anyone know how to set up a ventrilo on ubuntu server?
[23:56] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: right, that's normal.  But under /boot, we need kernels.  Do you remember if you installed wth a separate boot partition?
[23:56] <sony> i habe a notebook with an intel gma 965 (x3100) grafics card. if i plug in an external monitor i cant set the internal tft as the primary monitor. any idea?
[23:56] <meoblast> terli: then can you help me screen record into a virtual webcam?
[23:57] <alex_mayorga> Flannel, all the ubuntu stuff was on one partition
[23:57] <levidos> Jack_Sparrow: i know that my hardware is wrong. my question is if there is a command that disables and then reenables a device. (reset)
[23:57] <ZxPwn> Thanks Flannel haha, it fixed it!
[23:57] <terli> well
[23:57] <terli> let me see here
[23:57] <terli> screen recording?
[23:57] <koshar1> ispy_ additional repos really come down to what apps you require
[23:57] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: Thats what I assumed.  But... no kernels?  That's... just strange.  What were you doing when this happened?
[23:57] <koshar1> levidos would rmmod and modprobe be of use?
[23:57] <terli> xvidcap is to capture yourscreen
[23:58] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: power outage
[23:58] <meoblast> i dont care how long i live anymore
[23:58] <meoblast> i'll let myself stress
[23:58] <levidos> koshar1: i;m gonna google it to see how it works. thanks for the answer.
[23:58] <meoblast> i cant stop it anyways
[23:58] <meoblast> why is my name meoblast
[23:58] <terli> !xvidcap
[23:59] <terli> http://linuxreviews.org/man/xvidcap/
[23:59] <meoblast001> terli: here are the hacks http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=901612
[23:59] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: can you guide me on rescue mode using Alternate?
[23:59] <terli> try installing gvidcap
[23:59] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: Power outages shouldn't erase entire folders of files.  Although I suppose stranger things have happened.  What were you doing when the outage happened?
[23:59] <terli> oho you want to share it online